In term of movie and TV produced in Japan, many Chinese were stereotyped as Fu Manchu.

I still recalled watching the Japanese TV drama about the Judo Master 姿三四郎 -- there was an episode about 姿三四郎 fighting with a Chinese spy from the "Qing Kingdom" who was sabotaging in Japan on the eve of the Sino-Japanese War in 1894.

The Chinese spy was (of course) portrayed as treacherous and vicious. And he just looked like Fu Manchu.

Sometimes we might view things in a positive way. TE is a good venue for Chinese to express their views which might have effect on both the pro and anti China camp readers. Information sharing (or war) is just part of the great power game.

you forget that china invaded vietnamese islands by force.
how forgetful, or were you not informed?
i thought china is more developed than india.
so you are telling that india and china are in the same level in development of civility.
japan does not try to annex senkaku, but she annexed it in january 1895.
japan may not try to solve it by negotiation because she knows china is far smarter and sharper than japanese. i guess that in the end japan brig the case to ICJ, although china can refuse it and will refuse it as they know she will lose. if she is confident she will bring the case to ICJ, because japan cannot refuse as she has accepted article 36.2 of ICJ since 1950s.
here is not the place to accuse indians.
it seems you try to abuse all opponents histerically.
do you want someone to point how many chinese were slaughtered by their own countrymen?

As you yourself said I am Singaporean Indian, why do you bring up India all the time. If it was a Singaporean Chinese, do you bring up China. No. You look at everything through racial tinged lens and skin color. Where is the proof? Pull out figures from your ass.

Its not really about the conflict, about its history. China has border disputes with India/Pakistan. Do people get all riled up over that? No they don't Only person concerned you, because you hate smelly brown people.

Its not about being more peaceful, its the fact that if China was to attack Japan, they wouldn't get away with it.

"i guess that in the end japan brig the case to ICJ, although china can refuse it and will refuse it as they know she will lose. if she is confident she will bring the case to ICJ,"

I wonder why Noda does not propose to China to submit the case to ICJ now. Japan will win no matter what for doing so:

(1) If China refuses, then Noda can claim that China does not have strong argument and that is why they refuse Japan's proposal;

(2) If China accepts, then Japan should win the case since according to some fellow posters' opinion -- China cannot show any evidence that is owns the island.

If the dispute is presented to ICJ, what will be the most likely outcome?

Most likely ICJ will not look at those historical arguments (since China and Japan can both present ample evidence) but scrutinize which country exercises effective control over the islands.

Right now Japan is still exercising control over the islands but its control is gradually eroded. Why?

(1) Japanese coastal patrol ships cruise within the 12-nautical miles water off the disputed islands. But Chinese and Taiwanese coastal patrol ships also cruise freely and regularly within the 12-nautical miles water off the disputed islands. Moreover, Japanese coastal patrol ships could not, cannot or dare not pursue their counterparts away from the disputed waters.

(2) Chinese and Taiwanese trawlers periodically operate in the disputed water while Japanese trawlers do not.

(3) No Chinese or Taiwanese inhabit the islands. Neither do the Japanese.

(4) China submitted its new territory map that includes the disputed islands to UN and was accepted. On the other hand, U.S., which had administered the islands between 1945-1972, hesitated to confirm that Japan is the country which has rightful sovereignty over the islands.

Maybe Japan can still win the case now. But it will lose if its effective control is eroded further by, i.e. hundreds of Chinese fishermen landing on the islands and freely leaving without harassment.

japanese coast guard has not allowed taiwanese fishing boat or chinese fishing boat catch fish within the territory. those private boats are usually forced out by water gun of the coastal guard. when some of them landed on sankaku, japanese police force arrested them and took them to the police station for investigation, though later released without charge due to political consideration.
japanese coast guard has not attacked any chinese or taiwanese official boats such as reserch vessel of china or coast guard of taiwan because it violates international law. last time taiwanese coastal guard shot water guan against japanese coastal guard and therefore japan strongly protested to taiwan for its violation of the international law. it could lead to war by such act even it was water gun. i simply guess that taiwanese coastal guard did not know the relevant international law. china has sent so far no coastal guard nor military vessel but only reserch vessel. we will see what they send next time.

the map which china submitted to UN is a demonstration to draw attention to the senkaku issue. UN will receive any maps if officially submitted by the governments. it does not mean UN accepted the chinese story about senkaku.

"japanese coast guard has not attacked any chinese or taiwanese official boats such as reserch vessel of china or coast guard of taiwan because it violates international law. last time taiwanese coastal guard shot water guan against japanese coastal guard and therefore japan strongly protested to taiwan for its violation of the international law."

Japan's coastguard vessels have used water cannons in an effort to push the Taiwanese flotilla out of what Tokyo claims to be its territorial waters near the disputed islands in the East China Sea.
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Japanese coastal guards' action is quite provocative and may escalate into further confrontation. Of course, they also violated international law in disputed waters.

be careful and dont'make any mistakes.
japanese coast guard did not use water cannon against taiwanese coast guard. they used only against fishing boats. this is your demagogy. whereas the taiwanese used it against japanese one. ask taiwanese government, if you are taiwanese. are you instigating a war?

The present situation is that both China and Taiwan are gearing up action to send official vessels to patrol areas proximate to the Diaoyu Islands. The patrol has become a regular operation which cannot be stopped by Japan. In fact, Japan's effective control over the islands is a joke since the islands are so close to China and Taiwan. Besides, the waters surrounding the islands have long been the fishing grounds frequented by the fishermen of China and Taiwan. I must stress that fact is fact and fact cannot be denied. Japan cannot and will never prove to the world that it can effectively control the islands. The Japan's coast guards would prove insignificant in a situation where hundreds of fishing boats showing up in the scene, escorted by dozens of Chinese coast guards. Japan should best come to their senses and to withdraw their aggression plan and go home without dreaming a miracle to come. Japan has got enough miracles already.

As a so called smelly dark skinned "Dalit Indian", the arguments are too much for my low IQ. The Chinese (with the exception of the Koreans), are hysterical about the Japanese, while the rest of Asia has more or less moved on. it shows a pretty ugly side of China. Spare us your victim hood, its getting trite. As for my beloved, polite and ever so forgetful Japanese, whose apologies you mentioned are not really apologies, because they are based on massaged view of history and among your crazy nationalist fruitcakes - outright lies and distortions.

My important thing is education, unless more Japanese know about the past, the right wing nationalist in Japan will nudge the center rightward. Attacking / burning Japanese establishments in China was stupid, because those Japanese in China are most likely to be sympathetic. These are my suggestions

1) Make all Japanese tour groups visit the Nanjing Massacre Memorial museum or some other Museum depicting WW2 history. North Korea does it why can't China ??

2) Put a World War 2 exhibition booth in major international airports in China in departure/arrival lounge.

3) Establish a Asian WW2 Memorial Museum in Shanghai/Hong Kong that tells the history of the war in all the countries in the Pacific (including Japan and the US). Its not only Japanese, but the Chinese need to know more about history of World War 2.

4) Encourage more fields trips by Japanese schools to China.

The focus should be the Japanese, not the West. Are the Americans going to force the Japanese to apologize? The Americans had all the power to do in 1945, but Western POW are still waiting for the apology from Japan.

"1) Make all Japanese tour groups visit the Nanjing Massacre Memorial museum or some other Museum depicting WW2 history. North Korea does it why can't China ??"

Sure ...

I heard not one piece of "evidence" photographs presented there can stand up to scrutiny in court. Not one. Japan should build a memorial in Japan instead to educate what are wrong with those pieces of "evidence." They should name it "Museum of History Fabrication by the Chinese."

I think a nuke shoved up the Emperor's ass would be sufficient enough to call it even, don't you think? I think our Chinese posters will agree.

Why don't the you build a monument in NYC, saying that America provoked Japan into a War. That the Japanese soldiers treated the Americans POW very well. And that American should apologize for the nuking Japan.

You are deluded enough to think that Japan really was overthrowing whitey from Asia. They were in it for Japan itself, and the Japanese were worse than Europeans.

The Japanese "liberation" left Asia scarred for 40 years, China most. Let's be frank colonization by the Europeans was not as bad as it looks, definitely alot better than being colonized by your lot.

So its not about the War, then its just about territory. Its about the war and revenge, get over. When other countries get involved in territorial disputes like Canada and France,they don't lead to rioting.

I recall an idiom, "one man's meat is another man's poison". Perhaps the idea to have such showroom is best for India than China. The effect in China is non productive for tourism. But the effect in India is the opposite. The white British will be very pleased to see some reflections on their glorious days in their conquest of India at ports. In China, such act only suggests hatred for both the Chinese and Japanese. In India, they have the Stockholm Syndrome (in love with the captor) and thus the Indians might feel the same happy as their ex masters at the exhibit booths. So, the above quoted idiom speaks for the idea. It is great for the indians but not the Chinese.

Good point on the break even. Russians knew how to play even by destroying their enemies. In the west, they defeated the Germans in various battlefields before charging to destroy the guards in Berlin. They killed and raped. At that point, Russians won and thus they did not have to whine for justice later on. In the east, Russians prepared secretly their war machine and struck the Japanese Kwan Tung Army. Russians won and captured 400,000 Japs POW back home with 70,000 of them tortured death. Russians also rushed to take away all heavy machinery previously installed by Japs in Northeast China. They had the satisfaction and had nothing to complain. For a winning country like China, what did they get? Thats why the complaint is there to linger on. What should China do to have the break even? God knows.

With the exception of 1) all the other three suggestions are very practical.

Your 4) reminds me of an initiative from Hu Yaobang in the 1980's to have 3000 Chinese and Japanese youths to visit others' country with the aim to build trust and friendship. The initiative never panned out.

1. japan does not give education of nationalism and patriotism for 77 years. japan learned that nationalism or patriotism is only harmful for peace. japan has been enjoying peace for 77 years. i am thankful for that, as peace is a thing that cannot be replaced by anything.
japan has learned that nationalism or patriotism can be useful to divert attention of the people from daily difficulties and troubles to conflicts against other topics. china needed nationalism and patriotism in order to divert the attention of the people from internal problems, specially cultural revolution and other problems during transitional period from mao to new government, to other nation. japan learned that teaching nationalism and patriotism is exactly the road which had taken him to imperialism. china is now exactly taking such raod to be the greatest country in the world and to build new dynasty for CCP.

as for nanking museum, you can have a look and prove it wrong so that japanese can visit there pecefully.

the company which i used to work invites 50 or so chinese students to japan every year for free. i guess there are many more companies which either invites or take their staff to japan for positive reasons.
many japanese schools make field trips to china, but now totally stopped due to safety issue in china.

You want revenge? That is what its all about. What the Russians did to the Germans was nothing compared to what the Germans did to the Russians, its not even close. If you actually read accounts of what the Soviets did in Germany the rapes were largely restricted to the second line of Soviet troops and there were alot of them. The advance spear handing the advance were generally alot better disciplined, and in the case of Zhukov's soldiers tended to be from East of the Urals (did not see their homes destroyed by the Germans).

It appears that people can hope for the new chief of the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science, and Technology, Japan. She openly remarked that Japan's education on its war history was insufficient, and that Japanese should be taught about the truth of its invasion history.

Her remarks slapped the face of those Japanese in this forum shamefully praising Japan's history education and alleging other countries fabricating historical truth about Japanese invasion in the world war II.

May be she is able to bring changes to the country's distorted history education and there will be less of such kind of Japanese in future.

The rear echelons of the Red Army appeared to have raped alot - Enough to concern allies, like Tito's communists.

I think a number of books on Post-War Europe suggest that the Soviets shot themselves in the foot by negligence towards such activity on such an unprecedented scale.

What is up with the reference to the Philippines? As to what they received: They had their representative government restored, received independence on schedule and enjoyed one of the higher standards of living in Asia.

Now did the Filopinnos begin to fall behind in the 1960s - Yes. But that trend took some time to unfold under Marcos, more than 20 years after independence I believe.

Really? South Korea was poorer than Malaysia and the Philippines. Taiwan's per capita income was half of Singapore and Hong Kong in the 1930s. I did look at the hard data, you are the one that is snorting the Nipponese fairy powder.

Japanese barbarism was much worse than European exploitation. Ask the average Indonesians / Filipino who lived during that period how they felt about the Japanese. They hated their guts, almost as much as the Chinese did. In fact when I was hiking up a mountain in 1980s with a Japanese family, one old Indonesians in his sixties, asked if the family was Japanese. When I told them, they were, he said "If I was younger I would push them all off mountain".

The countries like Indonesia/Myanmar where independence movements were "assisted" by the Japanese actually ended up much worse off than those that choose to wait for independence (Malaysia). Indonesia is half as rich as Suriname, a Dutch colony in the South America.

The Japanese invasion of SEA was stupid, but again any one stupid enough to eat raw fish, has it coming to them. Because of Japan lost Korea and Taiwan. If she stayed out of SEA, the Koreans and Taiwanese would be speaking Japanese today. Too bad.

The biggest impact was on the Economy, during 3 years Indonesia per capita income dropped by 50% (half). It was not until 1970, did Indonesia per capita income recover to the level in 1941. Philippines per capita GDP also dropped by 50% (similar to the drop experience by China from 1937-1945). It was only until 1960 did they recover. Indonesia is interesting, because there was little fighting, compared to Philippines and China, and yet but because of brilliant Nipponese management techniques the Indonesian economy collapsed.

You are mistaken, stop snorting the Nipponese fairy powder. The nationalist education was developed in the early 1990s, when the CPC ditched the Marxist interpretation of the War, because it was too "socialist'. It has little to with diverting attention from problems in China. Ever since China adopted the "nationalist' BS, has she attacked anyone? No.

When China was still under the Maoist spell they fought

1) India
2) Vietnam
3) US of A
4) Exported Maoism

The link you gave is trash link, its Christian Publishing house In Japan. Its worse then Wikipedia.

Its odd to see a bunch of Hong Kongers waving the colonial flags. Perhaps they love a nostalgic feel. Its a very rare view. You know, a team of over a dozen Korean students visiting Hong Kong said they were very disappointed to note that Hong Kong had lost most of the colonial signs, especially the buildings. Its true. Hong Kong needs redevelopment and its land is very precious. So, many of the old colonial structures have to be removed to give way. The flag waving at least shows one thing - the freedom of expression. But not always if the Japanese imperial flag is waved. Better dont try that. Its no joke and has nothing to do with freedom to express. You know why.

Have I not made my clear enough in my comment? US allows the keeping of such flags in use in Japan's navy at least. Thats not alright. I like reading. Its not your privilege to do that. You have your scope and I have mine (covering the local and the mainland as well as foreign). Certainly, I know something you dont know. If you have good stuff, let me know by all means. But dont question me if I have read enough. Reading is my habit. Periodicals are my milk.

"The flag waving at least shows one thing - the freedom of expression. But not always if the Japanese imperial flag is waved. Better dont try that. Its no joke and has nothing to do with freedom to express. "

The Flag of Japan has never changed. The Flag used by Japan in the past has always been the sun flag. Japan is still an Monarchy, so that is the Emperor's flag. What you are talking about is the Rising Sun Flag, please be more accurate. Secondly, both the flags were used as the insignia by the Japanese military.

"What you are talking about is the Rising Sun Flag, please be more accurate. Secondly, both the flags were used as the insignia by the Japanese military."

Forget about my word "imperial". Whatever flag representating Japan should better not be shown in an angry Chinese demonstration. The emblem of rising sun used in the Japanese flag has a strong sense of militarism. It should have been banned after WWII. It has no difference from the "iron cross" representing the Nazi Germany. Its so disturbing. Whats up in Uncle Sam's mind?

The thing with the Rising Sun flag is that it was already in existence in 1880, long before Japan invaded Manchurian. The Iron Cross was never banned, the Bundswehr still uses it. The Iron Cross stretches back to the Prussians in 1810.

Secondly, the American tolerate the Confederate Flag, do you think they will make a big fuss about the the Rising Sun Flag. The Confederate Flag is similar to the Nazi Flag because it had no prior history before the Confederacy, unlike the Iron Cross and Rising Sun Flag. The Confederate flag is actually the state flag of some Southern States. I think your appeal to have the Americans to tell the Japanese to stop using that flag, will fall on deaf ears. Sorry.

American's east-asia policy, ever since she has such a policy, is to prevent sino-japanese alliance, in practice, the policy manifested as preventing either to dominate the other (which will lead to alliance). I hope China will not repeat Japan's mistake of trying to exclude US in the regional dispute. The world has changed from 1930s, trade and travel have shrunk the world. China should invite and involve the US is this Diaoyu dispute, which Japanese prime minister again asserted today that it does not exist. As Confucius once said: 解铃还须系铃人 （the one who can untie the gordian knot is the one who tied it). Diaoyu dispute is rooted in US's policies in 1952 and later in 1972. China should concentrate on putting sino-us relation on a long term even keel. Whether you like it or not, the truth is that Japan can either be a cheerleader for sino-us cooperation, or a cannon fodder for sino-us conflict. Sino-Japanese relationship is subjugated to sino-US relationship.

There is a book highly recommneded below to show what Japanese cultufre is and how Americans regard Japanese culture. The book is worth reading in the wake of the island dispute between Japan and China.

The Chrysanthemum and the Sword: Patterns of Japanese Culture is an influential 1946 study of Japan by American anthropologist Ruth Benedict. It was written at the invitation of the U.S. Office of War Information, in order to understand and predict the behavior of the Japanese in World War II by reference to a series of contradictions in traditional culture. The book was influential in shaping American ideas about Japanese culture during the occupation of Japan, and popularized the distinction between guilt cultures and shame cultures.

Although it has received harsh criticism, the book has continued to be influential. Two anthropologists wrote in 1992 that there is "a sense in which all of us have been writing footnotes to [Chrysanthemum] since it appeared in 1946".

The Japanese, Benedict wrote, are

both aggressive and unaggressive, both militaristic and aesthetic, both insolent and polite, rigid and adaptable, submissive and resentful of being pushed around, loyal and treacherous, brave and timid, conservative and hospitable to new ways...

The book also affected Japanese conceptions of themselves. The book was translated into Japanese in 1948 and became a bestseller in the People's Republic of China when relations with Japan soured.

There was a time, not so long ago, when the articles published by the western media on China revolved around the terrorist, Dalai Lama, and the US-sponsored and funded agents, Liu Xiaobo, Ai Weiwei, Chen etc. There followed after that a series of articles on the champions in diplomatic gymnasts, Hillary Clinton and Leon Panetta, who visited the countries of the Asia Pacific region in order to incite and urge them to go to war against China.
Now, we no longer read the dramatic BBQing of the Lamas nor the jumping of high walls by the almost-blind Chen nor the spectacular discoveries of seas by Hillary Clinton. Probably the Dalai Lama is not in need of money for the time being, probably the US government has cut the budget for its agents in China so that Chen is no longer keen to show off his crutches and his dark glasses, and probably the discovery of new seas on the map is not the true vocation of the US Secretary of State. Instead, we are now treated with articles on the disputes between China and Japan and the hatred of the Chinese towards Japan. These articles, as usual, are written with an oversized and strong distorting mirror so that what we can see of the Chinese and the Japanese and also of their disputes do not reflect at all the reality. Nevertheless, they are more than enough for the undiscerning minds of the western readers. What will be the next wave of articles on China?

China is at present using one hand to strangle the little Japan over the Diaoyu Islands dispute while using the other to sign business treaties with so many countries spreading across the world. China has many cards to play. Lately, it is using the propaganda made in the media to tell the world the truth of what is going on over the disputed islands. This is a kind of lobbying done before processing of a bill for discussion in the parliament. Despite the hit of the dispute, China is making friends everywhere, especially those newly emerged from battles and political chaos. These countries need China most because China has everything they need. Money, rebuilding of country and so on. Before, the game went like this : US destroyed and US and its alliance rebuilt. Now, the pattern has been disrupted and changed. The money game has thus been changed. China is well prepared to aid the world and US for the rebuilding of the torn down countries. But China is hated by many US's allied friends. US digs the well and China gets the water. But China's cheapos win the hearts of many. Who can resist? Why resist? Should China thank US?

all those countries being helped to build their country especially their infrastructure should be very careful. their bullet trains crashed, new bridges fell, sideway to highway dropped and soon new skyscrapers are expected to fold down.

2012 is said to be the doomsday of the world, starting from Japan. Are you still there safely? Like you, I am just talking non-sense. Its not your wish or curse that can change things you want. China has a long history of building infrastructure. I am not talking about the great wall but the railways in some Afraican countries some 4 to 5 decades ago. Since China's open door policy, it has built so many infrastructure items cover railways, highways, airports, ports, mega-complexes, high buildings, huge river dams, electricity plants, and many many others. China exercises care over safety. Contracts compliance. For this, the mecca railway built for the middle east is one good example. In order to comply with the strictest standard, China Railway did not make a profit. China has won so many contracts and orders overseas and created so many jobs for people. China looks for long term business relationships. Thats why Chinese companies are the most sought after. Its only the miracle which can explain the fast success of China to take the lead in this trade. The opportunity is abound. The R&D work of China must be very challenging and busy to tie in with the growth. Its worth all the efforts as it has now outperformed the little Japan by miles distance. (Pop!) Fancy for a drink. Cheers!

You wrote: "hope japan can catch up china someday."
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Unlikely. China is rising and Japan is declining. The gulf between them can only become bigger and not smaller.
The only way for Japan to grow is to free itself from the domination of the US. Fortunately, it will happen of itself as the US itself is on the decline and will no longer be able to keep its grip on Japan. But even then, Japan will need some time to overcome its psychological submission to another country.

Please do not misunderstand us.
The Japanese enjoy peaceful life under the umbrella of US Nuke against bad countries.
We do not want to increase the spending for defence. We want to spend that money for our welfare. We are not ashamed of it at all.

Please understand that Japan was one of the bad countries. It invaded many countries and killed and tortured tens of millions people. Now, the USA is the bad country. Over the last sixty years, it has invaded and bombed Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, iraq, Libya, etc. In the process, it has killed and tortured tens of million people. On top of that, it has assassinated many politicians and scientists.

Its of course an offence to burn a national flag in the public place, be it in China or any place in the world. I dont know what is the penalty to be imposed in China. At any rate, the police nearby will stop the burning with fire extinguishers. Its not uncommon even in Hong Kong.

Sure you are right, but it is another issue to accuse all american as murderer or criminals. Same for Japan. Your hatred against the japanese is outrageous but you should be reminded that that hatred among the chinese have been amplified by papagandas and education with purpose of CCP.
murder or torture are not japanese monopoly. on the contrary chinese history is the history of murder and torture. If you doubt i can quote thousands of exammples.
You should also understand that you action leads to reaction at the other end.

well, it is not a criminal offence to burn national flags in japan. as long as it does not give damages to other individuals, it is one of the means to express his opinion. Despite that i did not see any japanese who burnt chinese flag in japan during the time of violence in china or hk against japan in september. it instigates only hatred and hostility. the japanese of today are not that sort of people.

I might want to point out that U.S. returned the islands to Japan was one of the many wrongdoings to fight communism.

The only reason that it was signed to return to Japan without even noticing China was that China was enemy communist country.

It happened during the cold war, like the support of Afghanistan against the Soviets, among many others.

Now the world changed. China is only communist by name, and still reforming towards the right direction (the fall of the leftist Bo Xilai, and the push of democratic reform in low-level governments), yet many in the West still "by default" stand against China, no matter what they are talking about, ignoring totally the rise of right wing in Japan, which tend to deny that the islands have been taken by war from China, together with Taiwan in 1895. And most dangerously, deny the whole reality of WWII.

Actually it has nothing to do with the cold war. Diaoyu was way beyond PLA's non-existent navy's reach, and is closer to Taiwan than to Japan. The reason that US gave administrative power to Japan rather than gave the whole island back to ROC, a much more straightforward and right thing to do, was that Japan offered a range of inticement hard for US to refuse, among them were large bodies of medical data on atomic bomb victims which likely included control experiments such as withholding treatments and administering drugs that exacerbated the symptoms.

I find it inadequate to accuse the Chinese Government for how the Chinese people feel toward Japan. While I do acknowledge the existence of government propaganda in play, but let us tread carefully to not confuse correlation with causation. These feelings of the Chinese people that are also shared, to various extent, by many of her neighbors might be far more democratic, multitudinous, and nuanced than can be simply generalized into a single cause.

China has got over it. As you can see, the reaction of the Chinese Government is very very mild. No wild declaration except to assert that the Diaoyu islands are an integral part of China. It is the western media that is blowing the affair out of proportion in an attempt to incite anger and a possible war between two major countries of the Asia Pacific region.

china never blamed anyone but itself for its calamitiesof the pasty. that's why china is now up and up to be getting great.

japan on the other hand is unfortunately going down the drain, of japan's own doing----being nuked, surrendered and reduced to vassal status. with the ugly resurgence of right wing and extremists, japan may not be allowed to have a sky-king system at all the nest time around.

that's not all, japan is dying of its own doing. you know, the demography, the national debts and the chokehold held by its victor till today.

Actually the reaction of the government now tends to be more and more tough. I'm not a cynic, but I have to say that I'm happy to the change of the government's manner, what Japan is doing now really offends Chinese sovereignty. Maybe that could explain the sorta crazy phenomenon now in China towards this issue.

However, I'm pretty darn sure that if my grandkids were still blaming the grandkids of the people who did that just because they didn't like their sincerity, I would tell them they need to get over it...

Yes I am a smelly Dalit Indian, who's family suffered alot during the Japanese invasion, but I can forgive because I am Hindoo and too stupid to under the complexities of high IQ East Asians, particularly when they are acting like a-holes.

This article is so disgusting!!!! The massacre can be descriped by the author as the insprision of Chinese artists!!! How inhumanity the author is!! Everyone has to face the truth of history so that we can go forward. Not only China, the Japan should also do so! This issue has nothing to do with the regime of China. Don't always have this prejudice!!! Also the two films the author said are not banned in China, do not say so use your disgusting mind. The Chinese people love peace. I do not think western people can forgive the evil of Hilter since people are sill finding the criminal in the 2nd war today. How can you suppose Chinese do so when Japanese prime minister pay homage to the criminal?

Please focus on the truth of the history, do not put your prejudice mind on the other thing. The regime of the China does not hurt other country at least. China is now more and more open, but you guys just want to make it a sudden change. As the time goes on, China will be more confident to the world. Again, we are talking about the attitude of the history, not the regime.

what china aiming at is to build new communist dynasty.
the more confident she becomes, the more threat she becomes to neighbors, which nobody appreciates.
you can find many poster here telling that she is getting stronger so that nobody will be able to criticize, or despise, or something like that. she want to overcome inferior complex against the west or japan to be able to look them down next time in the political scene in the future. she is a kind of paranoia and the followers with full of perversive nationalism are same kind.

I don't think it is true. China no longer has so called inferior complex nowadays as she might have 100 years ago. It is the arrogance of western or Japan who think China still has this mind. It is also not because of the paranoia makes China nationalistic. I think the prejudice contribute it to some extent as far as such kind of articles still have its market. The author said the massacre inspire the imagination of Chinese artists. This article is so ridiculous. China also wants to forget this part of history. It is a shame to China. However, how can we pretend nothing has happened when the Japanese politics still honor the criminal of the war? We just need a sincerely apology. It is nothing to do with money as it is allusive in this article. That is why I think this article is so disgusting. A lot of things in this article are not true. However, you still think it goes well with your mind. How can you say it is not prejudice? We also hope that the relationship between China and Japan can be the same as it between France and Germany. I think most of the responsibility of the current situation between China and Japan is in Japanese side. Western people always think that China is unscrupulous. However, what will you think if someone stole your things and say that we do not have any dispute with it? Japan first changes the balance of this island issue when they buy them. Will you expect that China just accept it?
If you are so likely to talk the communist in China, I can tell you some truth. Most of the young people are not communistic even though they participate the party. In this sense, China do not want to build the communist dynasty so urgently as you expect. The mind is still flowing free during young people. However, please do not expect everything in the newspaper is allowed to deny the whole system. People will lose their mind. Everyone knows that there are a lot of bad things of the current system, through the government encourage people to go abroad and see the other side of the fact in the foreign countries. I think is a very good trend. The government is no longer easy to hide the truth any more. More and more such people are now going back to China and bring new ideas with them As long as this strength grows, China will be more wholesome. I think the government is in the right way.
Finally, I think China brings more opportunities than threat to its neighbors. We have a lot of conflicts about the land territory. I think we solve most of them. The rest is some islands. I think China are willing to co-exploit the resources. However, some countries try to invite other counties to exploit the oil but excluding China. However, I think we can solve this problem in the near future.

the reason i am here is simple.
1. Senkaku is a political issue and should be solved plitically. i prefer that the issue will be decided by UN body such as ICJ, but we will see.
2. the portion of posters here between chinese and japanese is perhaps 20:1 or 30:1 or 40:1. because there are not many japanese who reads englsih articles. the portion of the posters chinese in this comments section are perhaps 95% as you can easily find. they are posting comments as if they owned the palce.
3. the chines are abusing the japanese as murderer, criminal, idiot, dog, Nazi, etc. etc. which i do not accept. firstly the chinese were also murder,crimial,idiot,dog,Nazi, etc. if you go back their history. there is no difference between two in nature. they should respect others if they want to be respected.
4. i doubt if all posts are written by ordinary chinese. it is possible that many are written by specialits paid by the government for propganda.
5. i am rude only to those who are rude.

i have no ill feeling against the chinese. we are same human. there are differences but they should not be obstacles for mutual understanding. there are many chinese living in japan peacefully. hope those japanese living in china can feel same, though at the moment it seems it is difficult, as CCP is increasing the level of antagonism partly due to the power struggle toward the national conference in november.

I'm also very surprising that there are so many chinese people here. However, I don't think they are some specialists as you said. Most of them can write english quite well. I think they are some chinese who live in the western for long time. You always do not reply my questions directly but ask new questions. Actually, I don't how rude the Chinese are as you said. Can you say more details? The war is no doubt cruel. But what people did besides battle hurts more. I think that is why Chinese people feel so emotional to Japan, especially they try to hide this history.
We all want to be friendly to each other. However, what the Japanese politics did really hurts Chinese feeling. I think China has posted her idea in some newspaper in the US. I'd like to see how Japan response to this query. http://www.233.com/syyy/Read/20120927/10061723.html

it seems that CCP is leading a campaign for the government officilas not to wear/carry Rolex, Hermes and similar luxury items in order to gloss over widespread corruptions from the not haves. those officials whose salary of 5,000 yuans can drive Ferrari and Audi are surely subject to suspicions of the ordinary factory workers. another exammple hunting after Bo Xilai is close?

heck, even if that was true it's still far better than an almost bankrupt and corrupt japanese government with over 200% of GDP of public debts yet can't make any major decision, including fixing its prime rate at japanese central bank, without the approval of the us.

japanese are now 'wang guo lu/ 亡国奴' and will probably stay so to the end of their lives. that's the wage japanese are paying for the sins and crimes of their father/ grandfather and having failed to repenting for them. what's more, japan is dying considering the demographic data et al as many economists are saying.

I'd love to see you guys have a free and independent nation, but the world just won't have it, and they are right because of your lack of repentance. so sorry, I can't help you there.

it has been CHINA who has bee compromising to adjust exchange rate due to the pressure by USA. your vassal system is still far from international standard including your mental structure. your fellow slaves are totally uninformed such fact and are breathed with distorted nationalism only to protect goverment officials who are enjoying bribery, traditional Chinese culture, which is the only culture you can be proud of as it has 3000 years traditon, a world heritage.

before abusing Japan, you must check your parents and grand parents what they were doing in 1967, check if their hands are clean or stained with blood. where are those criminal red guards who murdered 4 million fellow Chinese, the most inhuman criminal after Nazis and Stalin.

Japan already committed economic suicide. Since the early 1990s, at the request of its master, Japan had voluntarily stalled its economy for over two decades.
The Americans are hypocrites, murderers and torturers, just like the Japs or a bit more.

You have left out one more important item, i.e. mistress. Almost all "successful" officials have one or more mistresses. This should be banned as the keeping of a mistress is tiring and expensive. In consideration of the public interest, the married men should be banned from this and required to make a declaration on file. This arrangement will reduce corruption altogether.

The Chinese hyperbole has gotten to the point where some "Chinese" posters can claim

1)During WWII, Japan had done much more evil and murderous damage to Chinese than Germany did to Jewish people. Yet Western media had chosen not to report them very much even today because China has become a communist country.

2) She are not used to being humiliated because they are a big country, for smaller countries its OK, because they are small and they get used to be humiliated.

3) Chinese of today have more hate for the Japanese than others, even SEA who actually where tortured and beaten by the Japanese.

All I can say, they should get a gold medal for victim hood. But in my opinion, based on percentage of the population wiped out here is my ranking of "victimhood" in WW2

Outside the Jews, the people that bore the brunt of WW2 were the Poles. They were attacked by both the Soviets and the Germans. WW2 wiped up 16% of the Polish population. Soviet Union 13% died. Philippines 6%, China 4%.

Soviet Union suffered far worse under Germany, than what the Japanese did in China. Our Chinese are head deep in their own victim hood that they forget to realize that. The Japanese invasion did not scar permanently China (except turning China Communist, but depending who you are its plus or a negative) as the German invasion did to the USSR. The impact was felt well until the Soviet Union collapse. World War 2 wiped out a generation of young men, and its the reason why the CP went from Andropov to Gorbachev, because there were so few leaders in their sixties (WW2 generation). In fact despite the glorification of their achievements in WW2, for almost 40 years CPC leadership was monopolized by Long Marchers. Zhao Ziyang was one of the few World War 2 generation to get top leadership position, and what did the CPC do to him?

The question people have to ask is why Germany could apologize, not why Japan can't. Many of the posters here forget that the Japanese example is more than norm, I hate to burst your bubble guys, but it is. People don't like to apologize period, and the CPC is no exception to that rule.

In my opinion, the best comparison for China is not the Holocaust, but how Germany handled the invasion of the Soviet Union / Poland (ie Eastern Front). You are not going to get a Japanese Emperor going to Nanjing and weeping like Willy Brandt. It won't happen. The Germans never did that with the Soviet Union. Its about finding the correct analogy and being realistic, which many of our Chinese posters are not.

There was a lot of denial in the 1950s on Germany's invasion of the Soviet Union. Germany saw the Russians, just like the Japanese saw the Chinese, they were a untermensch, and both the Soviet Union and China were seen as "living space"

In 1950-60s, Germany school children where taught

1) SS was involved in the war crimes on the Eastern Front, not normal Wehrmacht (still true today)
2) Put the blame on Hitler
3) Dominant narrative was Germany's owning suffering. Treatment of German POW in Soviet Unions, Ethnic Cleansing of Germans in the Soviet Union, brutality of the Soviet invasion (the rapes). Were never taught why the Soviets were so brutal (hint because the Germans were nasty in Russia)

Why did the German conservatives (revisionist) kept quiet in 1970-80s? Its because they needed

1) Support for German reunification
2) Protection of West Germany from Soviet Union.

One has to remember the Japanese really only started apologizing after Hirohito had passed away. They only started mentioning Japanese War crimes in the late 1980s.

Japan should spend less time giving official apologies, in fact it should just stop them, because an apology without the truth will always be insincere. Nor should Asian countries pester the Japanese for apologies all the time. This is to prevent the nationalist in Japan getting all excited. Tokyo should spend time providing a more truthful understanding of history. Should dismiss / reprimand leaders who tell lies. The other Asian countries should work with moderate groups in Japan educate the future generation. When there is enough people in Japan that are educated about the past, will such a apology be sincere and without controversy in Japan.

Victimhood can lead to war and conflict, ie Istael. Israel is a classic example. The West has indulged Israel for far too long, For Americans that victim hood has a $3 Billion price tag every year. Why should a country of 7 Million people can determine if one's petrol bill will triple the next day?

I did not know you were so focused on human rights. Victimhood is not a right.

I get offended, when young Chinese punks feel their suffering is worse than an Indonesian villager who saw his family slaughtered by the Japanese during WW2. That is why I think you people are obnoxious little pricks. You are so full of yourself its unbelievable. Is it logical? No its not, but in your little warped mind it is. That is victim hood run amok.

You have a typical commie mentality, berate until you get an apology. But is an apology based on fear is really an apology, no its not. You want a sincere apology, but so far you haven't got one, despite all the berating and silliness. You want a sincere confession, but think humiliation, calling names and threats will get a sincere apology. It won't, but you are too full of hate, ignorance and emotion to realize it. You have a typical Red Guard mentality, you would make a perfect Red Guard Commander.

The way you rank the suffering of countries in WWII is strange. Using the percentage of fatality against total population has resulted China being ranked after Jews, Poland and even Philippines. Whats the big idea to do things like this? Why not just adopt the total casualty instead?

I agree with you that in early years, Japan was unwilling to talk about giving an apology. Even when the then prime minister visiting late CHOW en-lai was still mean in delivery a proper wording of apology to Chinese. For a defeated country like Japan, it would follow the order of US and US alone. At the end of WWII, China had the opportunity to send some token occupying army representative to station in Japan. Because of the chaos arising from the imminent civil war in China, China's representatives were absent. Thus, Japan was free from anything from China.

US did not abolish the imperial system in Japan as it wanted Japan to regain social order soonest possible. Though the Emperor was made a symbolic head, the country under the new constitution did revive in a swift way. When US was about to fight the Korean war, it entrusted more faith and aid to Japan, making it possible for the country to flourish quickly. China's influence on Japan was completely out of reach then.

Its lucky for Japan to stay free from China and grow. At time 1960-1970, Japan showed remarkable success in trade. Meanwhile, China was in the deep sea of troubles caused by the cultural revolution. Thus, the gap between China and Japan was unthinkably wide. Japan was rich and China was very poor. Japan was able to morph into a new version country for its offsprings by white washing its history. Can it last long? The answer is NO. Once the victim has the chance to come up to talk about the past. The crimes will come to light. No one can cover the ugly past from anyone. Not even its offsprings. They should be told. No matter how ugly the facts are. This is the justice at work.

It is heard that one diet member is prepared to review the content of the textbook with a view to making sure that the content have incorporated the true facts in them. Thats a good start. Thats the normal approach. Let the justice work its way.

The wound of WW2 in your mind can be standed just as numbers. Always try to ingore the truth but saying that Germany wounds more to other country. Do you know how many people dying by battle or just by the brutehood of country (like Japan)? Another Japanese typical shit mind!!!

Older people tend to react to injustice with a fundamental sadness other than anger. At least this is my take. So the anger from an elder Indonesian villager may seem less than a young person from China. Does it mean the young Chinese is not entitled?

Second, how much do you think the Chinese youth should be angry? Maye be we can quantify this anger. On a scale of 1-10?

$ of dead is what Germany uses as a barometer. Hence apologies to the Jews was more forth coming. Your are oblivious to the fact that Japan's position will never be like West Germany's in the 1950-1980s. Your mistake is you think an apology is going to happen once China is going to become big and powerful. Its not, look at Latvia and its Waffen SS monuments. Its a peanut of a country, but what has Russia or the EU done? The Russians have complained, but Latvia still has the monument.

Those older Indonesians can be quite angry, but not as angry to go smashing stores etc. It has to do with education system, if people are not literate, it would die down with each generation. And secondly, the hate would not be present in areas largely left untouched by the invasion (ichuan, Qinghai, Guizhou, Yunnan etc Would a illiterate / literate person in Yunnan would be know much about the Japanese invasion? In fact their grandchildren would know more. -

First i am not Japanese, and my family has suffered at the hands of the Japanese. I have relatives imprisoned by the Japanese, lived under Japanese occupation etc. So China does not have a monopoly on suffering. China must learn to be patient, eventually Japan will forgive, to berate someone constantly is not going to help. It just makes you angry. Why should you get angry, when they Japan has not done anything to you personally.

Sadly there is almost no Chinese who writes/responds rationally in this colum. There is almost no Chinese who does not use abusing words in their post. I wonder how much they are breathed with narrow-minded nationalism with hatred and antagonism toward Japan and USA. And sadly they do not realize such manner is unsual among the west. Should we ask how deep their sufferings were or how deep their brains were washed red?

Outside the Jews, the people that bore the brunt of WW2 were the Poles. They were attacked by both the Soviets and the Germans. WW2 wiped up 16% of the Polish population. Soviet Union 13% died. Philippines 6%, China 4%." (...)

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Different sources give somewhat different data, but just a question: do you include Polish Jews in the 16% for Poland? Because in that case you would be counting them twice, as Jews and as Poles. Anyway, you forgot to mention Yugoslavia: the first figures given by Yugoslavia after the war, 1,700.000 killed out of a population of 17,000,000, gave a 10%., but they were exaggerated. Slightly over one million (including some 50,000 or 60,000 Jews) out of 15 or 16 million inhabitants seem to be the right figures, but even so it's a 6-7 % of the population. Killed mostly by Germans, also by Italians, by Hungarians, by Bulgarians... and, very especially, by other Yugoslavs! The occupation (1941-1945) was much worse than the brief 11-day war itself (April 6-April 17, 1941).

As for the Jews, not all were gassed, as many people believe, over 1,000,000 of them were shot dead by the SS einsatzgruppen and other groups—not only German Nazis, but Yugoslavs (Ustaše/Ustasha Croats, mainly), Latvians, Lithuanians, etc as well.

Yes, you are right that almost all Chinese here are angry at the Japanese. Why not? Only a dead man has no feeling and emotion. For the Japanese, they cant have the same emotion as they know they owe a lot to the Chinese people. Even though many of the Chinese are not the direct victim of WWII, they are mostly the descendants of such. What is the difference for the grandkids to voice out their anger when the justice is still outstanding? Japs cannot run away like this.

jap is an abusing word.
if you like, i can find nearly 20 abising words for the chinese. frankly i was surprised why there are so many insulting words fo the chinese people when i opened the english dictionary. i am not kind enough to explain the reason for you. it was not the japanese who created those words.
so be careful and decent.

grandkids surely can express their anger but it is not necessary to show their anger with verbal abuse like criminal or murderer or raper. china does not lack examples of those for her own people too. if you cannot find those, i can quote anytime for you.

"Japan should spend less time giving official apologies, in fact it should just stop them, because an apology without the truth will always be insincere. Nor should Asian countries pester the Japanese for apologies all the time. This is to prevent the nationalist in Japan getting all excited. Tokyo should spend time providing ...

... blah blah blah ... yadda yadda yadda ... blah yadda..

generation. When there is enough people in Japan that are educated about the past, will such a apology be sincere and without controversy in Japan."

Yukio Mishima committed ritual suicide like all those "good" samurais were expected to. Ishihara Shintaro was a good friend of Mishima. I wonder what that was all about... just wondering, not really suggesting... because in theory those right wingers should have all sort of self-exterminated when the emperor surrendered.. just wondering how big a gap there is between theory and practice.

I am surprised that you time and again complain about my using the word "Jap" to depict Japanese. If "Jap" is a rude word, TE should have given me a warning already. My random (not always) use of Jap is based on the good use of the abbreviation and its good reflection of my emotion at some critical point. When in the hot argument like in this forum, I think it is permissible to use such as this is far from other foul words banned in use. We can bear with your country for so many things, why cant you bear with the shortened form of the word Japanese for a while?

Of course you are offended, because short of people kneeling and kissing your beautiful feet, you are never satisfied. While Germany was forthcoming with here apologies to the Jews, it took a long time for Germany to apologize to the Slavs (Poles, Russians etc)

sorry, but it is used for despising japanese in english, like chinaman, chiny, chink, etc. for chinese. u do not feel it is abusing cause english is not your mother tongue. yank for american, kraut for german, etc.

In WWII, there were some Indian soldiers collaborating with Japan to fight the British army. I dont know why they did that. Perhaps for the belief that Japan would allow India's independence (a miracle) or for the bread only. Or for both. I know these Indians after the war did not undergo marshal law trial. In fact, India as far as I know dont have too much negative view on this sort of thing, including the soldiers surrender easily to the foes. Thus, your attitude towards Japan is understood. Its one of your traditions to be lenient as you claimed yourself to be.

Yes, China has the corruption problem. But India is no better. No government is perfectly clean for sure. Even Japan is going to broke, Chinese wish to have the reparation will still be valid. China is no longer a communist country. In fact, China has learnt so much from Singapore in the effective governance by a strong government. If you blame China, you should at the same time blame your government as well. They are of the same clan, the authoritative administrations. Dont be preoccuped with anything in mind. As long as China's system can work to achieve prosperity, whats wrong with that. US hates China's success and therefore puts blame on China's state companies. Its the conflict of ideology again. There is no right or wrong except biased opinion causing collateral damage. Thats all.

China is a member of the developed world with a seat at the tables of all prime international bodies & clubs. Time has come for China to live this ascension to the top and clean all the mess down and under. Doesn't matter what ''ism'' China practices, it is in the mainstream of the ''West dominated mature democratic & economic trends''; Therefor it will be wise on the part of China to let TRUTH prevail about its past & present and let the future chart its own natural course.

The Japanese view of history has never changed. They did nothing wrong and its everyone elses' fault. From their textbooks to their war memorials. To even having the never to errect memorials on the Aleutian islands

Thats why they look like a bunch of idiots in the eyes of people of other nations. I guess it would be very painful for the kids to know that their ancestors were looters, murderers, rapists, arsoners, and lunatics. They might choose to thank them for their contribution to the country to snatch so much money for their upbringing.

at least we are not sons of red guards of age 13, 14, 15 who murdered 4 million fellow Chinese. check your hisotry with your own parents and grandparents.
i am intereted to know the result of your check up.

oh, murders, rapists, arsoners and lunatics are the Chinese culture and world heritage. don't you learn ti at school? strange, as there are full of books regarding those cases. your study of history is still in vassal age.
you killed too many history scholars during cultural revolution conducted by your parents and grandparents. you have no historians as red guard terminated them. your new historians are enjoying corruptions in the government offices wearing rolex and driving audis.

The great leap, cultural revolution and so on were all Chinese internal affairs or problems. They will be sorted out among Chinese. They are none of any Jap's business. Chinese dont have to explain to any Jap about all these happenings, do they? For what? Likewise, China wont question Japan's internal issue.

"The great leap, cultural revolution and so on were all Chinese internal affairs or problems."

as an political event, yes, it was your internal matter. but it provides us many intersting points know china and especially the chinese. outsiders like me can benefit lots of views out of it, though mostly as negative examples.

the state of mind of those red guards brainwashed with communism is exactly same sate of mind of the nationalism against japan or usa fermented by CCP as decribed in the article. so in fact it is not always chinese internal affair but rather international issue which the outsiders must pay attention.

"They will be sorted out among Chinese."

(laugh)
how and when? please answer.
at TE, there is no borders of intellectual issues.

We never want to find enemy, neither will we forget the history during which China was bullied and invaded but our enmeies refused to confess whatever they commited in China. We didn't invite them to come.

Sorry to tell you, but I think the Chinese did it to themselves. Do you remember Boxer Rebellion (1900)? Qing government supported it. That is just asking for more trouble. The Chinese are also responsible for not respecting treaties, not protecting the foreigners, and so on.
The main reason for Manchrian Incident (9/18/1931) was not because Japan was aggressive and wanted to invade. It was because China kept on violating the legitimate rights Japan had in Southern Manchuria (as result of Russo-Japanese war，and subsequent Manchuria Corrective Treaty). Also, the communists were starting to creep into Manchuria at the time.
"We didn't invite them ..." Sorry to tell you again. But history cannot be understood with that level of childish reasoning.

You must be the 2 or 3 generation of Imperial Army man or woman whose soul is lingering over to incubine your militarism that never face up with reality that Japan is now not allowed to revive its invasion any more.

In this sense, one or more atomic bombs should have been dropped over so that your dream of greater east asia co-prosperity sphere would never come true.

All your comments here are sheer nonsense, and no more response will be expected.

I never want to make anyone enemy, let alone Japanese, who live as closely as a stripof water to China. But we are not afraid of any attack that are to happen again like 70 or so years ago to invade our country.

There is one Chinese saying goes that close neighbors are better than distant relatives in terms of mutual respect and benefits.

Its unfortunate that there were no Chinese occupying force to search for loots hidden in Japan after WWII. Its believed that there are so many antiques and valuables hidden in the palace of the emperor. Only the Japanese people know how many "souvenirs" they are still keeping in their houses. The Japs searched and looted China for over five decades. What have been returned so far? They know. Not much. Five decades!

japs is an abusing word for the japanese.
do you know i found that there are nearly 20 abusing words for the chinese in an english dictionary. it was not japanese who created those words.
so be careful and be decent.

are you accusing that the japanese were theft? do you really think that theft was japanese monopoly? have you ever studied chinese history over 3000 years? if you think the chinese were free from theft, i am kind enough to quote the examples, so let me know.

I dont mind giving you 101% respect until and unless Japan government gives the Chinese people a decent apology and reparation. Before that, I cant do that unconditionally. By the way, I love the word Chinaman. It dont hurt me.

Two American aircraft carriers powered by nuclear together with other warships are building up and approaching Asia. The first battle group is nearing East China sea while the second aircraft carrier is nearing South China sea, which is a sign of American engagement in the regional disputes to put American ‘rebalance’ into practice.

1. Separating Japan and China in a potential war over the disputed island;
2. Confirming that the disputed island is covered by the US-Japan security pact;
3. Showing a warning to China that the only-aircraft carrier country would be no rival to the 11 aircraft carriers country;
4. Backing up Japan to regain its physical control until capture the disputed island;
5. testing the capability of missiles of various types made in China whether they are fake or fatal.

The biggest civilian butcher has never won a single war with China when it was backward in term of economical clout and military weapons in Korean wars of 50s and Vietnamese wars of 60-70s . On no account will it prevail this time with China's DF-21D serving craft carriers anytime, DF-41 , JL-2 as well as JL3 pointing to Washington ,capable of hitting anywhere in the USA and the world as as whole after its aged satellite was precisely shot down in 2007 and the only current -in-service spaceship and Taikongauts sent into space lately .In no way will USA win after losing face in front of the world in wars of frail Iraq and Afghanistan,contributing to its decline which I bet may revive Bin Laden back to life.

An open and proud China welcomes the paper tiger of aircraft carriers appreciating the beautiful and picturesque scenery of China.

The U.S. Marines conducted their first test flights of the MV-22 Osprey aircraft in Japan on Friday after months of protests over safety concerns.
The hybrid aircraft can take off like a helicopter and fly like an airplane. Flight operations were conducted at a base in southern Japan where they are temporarily deployed before being transferred to Okinawa.
Protesters held up signs opposing the deployment while the test flights were under way.
Following two recent crashes, tens of thousands of Okinawans have protested the deployment, saying that they are not safe to fly in Okinawa's crowded environment.
But Japan's central government gave the green light for operations to begin this week after a visit by U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who said Washington is confident in the safety of the aircraft. The planes are to head to Okinawa this month.

The 22DDH Class helicopter destroyer is Japan's first aircraft carrier since the Great Pacific War. The designation 22DDH is short for helicopter destroyer project, Heisei Year 22. Heisei is the name of the reign of the current emperor. Each emperor's reign is named, i.e. Meiji, Showa, etc. Heisei 22 is the 22nd year of rule by Emperor Akihito. The 22 does not reference the displacement, and in any event Asian navies always disclose empty displacement instead of loaded or full displacement.

"1. Separating Japan and China in a potential war over the disputed island;"

Its aim is to threaten China. Its okay as long as US has the money to finance its two aircraft carrier fleet to stroll around. 3m Americans have no jobs. Yet the navy just squanders the money like a big money spender. I wonder how long can Uncle Sam rely on printing money to finance its 11 carrier fleets?

"2. Confirming that the disputed island is covered by the US-Japan security pact;"

Such pact is to cover up the bedroom deal made by US/Japan in 1971/2. China is telling the world via selective propaganda about this illegal deal.

"3. Showing a warning to China that the only-aircraft carrier country would be no rival to the 11 aircraft carriers country;"

No need to send such a warning. PLA knows that well. China has no intention and ability to rival US at the present moment. But China is more than happy to see the decline of US when it goes broke.

"4. Backing up Japan to regain its physical control until capture the disputed island;"

It has become a dream for the little Japan to do that. China's PLA wont allow Japan to steal the islands. 1.3b Chinese have signified full support for their government.

"5. testing the capability of missiles of various types made in China whether they are fake or fatal."

I think everyone knows what the scale of the radius of operation of an aircraft carrier is. And the 7th fleet or aircraft carrier battle groups are on voyage otherwise they would stay at Pearl Harbor or Hawaii. They are nearing the troubled waters, quoted in the article as saying.

I am afraid the 7th fleet is not courageous enough to approach much nearer to become the target of missles made in China.

There has been no end-to-end live test of the Dong Feng 21 if that is what you are referring to. At least not with a moving, maritime target.

JLs are medium to intermedium range SLBMs. Not going to do much against a carrier force. If you are suggesting playing nuclear escalation games with US, I think that threat is pretty much deterred. No comparison to Tridents.

I DON'T think there would be another version of Star War between China and the US. But in coping with international affairs, power counts, which drive the US to develop X37, x47 and the like to assure its attacks on any spot on earth within hour.

The X37 could get even more interesting if solid rocket boosters could be used - like what was envisioned for the Orion/multpurpose crew spacecraft (essentially souped up shuttle boosters). That would allow more streamlined, and prompt launch processes.

Also would have to see how experiments with hypersonic propulsion work out. I think unmanned hypersonic craft could prove quite disruptive for surveillance and sudden bolt-from-the-blue operations.

if some one could admit his mistake and apologize after doing something terrible to my family, i might forgive him, Just as German Chancellor Willy Brandt knelt down in front of a monument commemorating Warsaw Ghetto Uprising in December 1970 to admit the history. But if he deny what he did， i have to let more people recognise his disingenuous mask and tell people the truth of history. Dont teasing Chinese people in that way, we are human， who need remembering history and humiliation.

There is no link between Holocaust and Tibet of which the later is China's as proclaimed by all countries officially.
But there is an intimate connection between Holocaust and Imperial Japan as both are evils.

What is your fuxking logic? The Chinese have every right to blame the Japanese for conducting looting, killing, burning, bombing in their country. 300,000 Chinese were killed in Nanjing alone. From Shanghai to Nanjing, there were 500,000 killed prior to Nanjing. In WWII, 30,000,000 Chinese were killed directly and indirectly by Japanese. The value of the damage done was estimated at US$500 billions. Besides, so much resources were stolen from China's norther provinces. Countless broken families lost their homes. Japan lost the war but how much and how far did the Japanese pay to compensate China and Chinese? Where is the justice?

I think it was the Chinese that stole everything that was built in Manchuria. Japan helped to build Manchuria and it was prosperous.
Killing and looting was what the Chinese army did. They were notorious for that. Do not blame it on the Japanese whose military discipline was the most strict in the world.
Nanjing is a hoax. There is no satisfactory evidence for murder of civilians. The Chinese guerrillas that were hiding in Nanjing were either released or executed. International law does not apply to guerrillas. One month after the fall of Nanjing, order was restored and the residents were already returning to the city. Why would they go back to Nanjing if massacre was taking place?
In May 1938, Chinese Nationalist government participated in 101st Security meeting of League of Nations about 6 months after the "massacre." They protested against use of nerve gas and indiscriminant bombing by the Japanese ... which they just made up to buy sympathy of other nations. Anyway, why didn't they bring up the massacre?
Because it did not happen!
I think the Japanese are getting tired of all the lies.

You need some reading on who took away the machinery from Northeast China. It was Russia, after defeating Japanese Kwai Tung army, they rushed to dismantle and remove all these heavy factory equipment back to Russia as their prizes. They also went wild in the cities for a while.

if some one could admit his mistake and apologize after doing something terrible to my family, i might forgive him, Just as German Chancellor Willy Brandt knelt down in front of a monument commemorating Warsaw Ghetto Uprising in December 1970 to admit the history. But if he deny what he did， i have to let more people recognise his disingenuous mask and tell people the truth of history. Dont teasing Chinese people in that way, we are human， who need remembering history and humiliation.

Some narrow minded westerners are bragging about the so called BOGUS freedom of speech and freedom of independent thought which they think they are enjoying as privileges in the west. They claim they take the moral highland to judge anyone as a result.
Holy crap!!!
If there were outright freedom of speech existing in the west, Bin Laden, Julian Paul Assange and extremist Islamists would have been invited to give the westerners a piece of their minds rather than get killed or detained after being deprived of such rights they definitely deserve as we all do, merely because of the western stupid ,biased and narrow definition of freedom, merely in their own selfish interests.What is more,the protest of Occupy Wall Street will be on the headlines as frequently as the lurid news about China and other Asian nations only to damage their image.
If the west did have freedom of independent thinking, the westerners would NOT have been that stupid and naive to put faith in their barbaric government which invaded Iraq and slaughtered millions of civilians ,including thousands of American,British, and German solders or whatso ever under the pretext of search for weapons of mass destruction which only the wise Chinese and easterners did not believe and later proved so.
So all in all, the west excel at spouting crap demonstrated by China-haters out there which sounds reasonable and convincing at first sight, but actually amounts to bullshit.

Congrats! Your are back to normal sense that the west is no better than China and the est in every respect.
There you go again.
"Your" estimate is just as blind and biased as your typical belief that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction leading to the bloody invasion into Iraq by buffoons of military UN.

"which invaded Iraq and slaughtered millions of civilians ,including thousands of American,British, and German solders or whatso ever"

The German government had opposed participation in Iraq campaign bcs they doubted the storyline of the Bush government, get your facts straight before you start typing. Your examples of the limits of the freedom of speech are interesting, probably you could not find much more which means it is a success, despite its shortcomings.

Get the proportion right: "slaughtered millions of civilians" estimates are around 110-120k violent deaths with the large majority attributed to local infighting.

"which only the wise Chinese and easterners did not believe"

Come on. It was all over the international media and has been publicly debated in the UN. Spare us the "Eastern Wisdom" fairytales that you guys "proved" anything.

Yes the Iraq war was a big fraud, so was the Bush government. But you draw the wrong conclusion, that this is the fault of freedom of speech or democracy. On the contrary, both concepts do not exclude human error, but they are a good albeit not perfect tool of minimizing it occurring.

Pure language is hard to achieve with English, since it was originally a pretty barbaric teutonic one.
- Tons of latin and french-derived vocabulary was grafted onto it following the Norman invasion.
- Then it was further distorted by the vowel shift.
- And the vocabularly was vastly expanded by the fact that Englanders and descendents traveled the world picking up tons of odd words hither and thither.
- Meanwhile many conventions of other Indo European languages were stripped away or downplayed significantly, with the language assuming a very direct, non-gender, rude disposition (look at all the use of "you" and "hey you", not to mention the reservoir of bad words picked up, giving rise to references to "four letter words")

He was referring to "ignored by a group of perverts like you with self-perceived superiority." (I assume this might be deleted soon) in his rant against freedom of speech.

Michael Dunne, this is not due to his English level, don't provide excuses he knew what he did and later on lied about it. It seems more like he is unfamiliar with the great Chinese concept of keqihua as well as the forum rules.