Steven Hayward is the inaugural visiting scholar of conservative thought at the University of Colorado at Boulder. (Disclosure: I was on the selection committee that chose him.) It was predictable that he'd be a target of criticism from certain quarters. The knee-jerk reaction and overwrought expressions of outrage to his comments about gender identity are a valuable lesson in just how much a p...

What Rosen fails to mention is that a few members of the BFA tried to make it into a bigger deal, and the overwhelming response from the faculty was that Hayward was loutish, but that he has his freedom of speech, which must be protected else we lose our own some day.

estebanico wrote:So he got criticized...and that was pretty much the end of it.

What Rosen fails to mention is that a few members of the BFA tried to make it into a bigger deal, and the overwhelming response from the faculty was that Hayward was loutish, but that he has his freedom of speech, which must be protected else we lose our own some day.

And the speech really was loutish. What kind of jerk belittles peoples' sexual issues? That's nasty.

Hate speech in America today is any speech the LEFT can't defend or don't want to debate. So basically it's any speech other then left wing propaganda.

This IS the direction the left wants the country to go. We speak you shut the up.

I also find it interesting that Obama and the Democrats say the best days of America are over, and we ALL should except lower expectations, as they ask us to vote for them. Vote for lower expectations. What a concept.

Funny: Steven Hayward is the inaugural visiting scholar of conservative thought at the University of Colorado at Boulder. Ad the visiting scholar of Conservative thought come sup with a crude and insensitive cheap shot at the LBGT community. Now that is what you call Conservative thought.

And of course, Mike Rosen is there to defend him and attack the people that stood up against this tasteless remark..

dough wrote:Funny: Steven Hayward is the inaugural visiting scholar of conservative thought at the University of Colorado at Boulder. Ad the visiting scholar of Conservative thought come sup with a crude and insensitive cheap shot at the LBGT community. Now that is what you call Conservative thought.

And of course, Mike Rosen is there to defend him and attack the people that stood up against this tasteless remark..

Agreed. Most people probably find the phrase "conservative scholar" a bit of an oxymoron to start with, and then this guy goes and fulfills that notion.

It would be much better--and more equal--if we all treated each other with respect. That won't happen, of course, but in the meantime gays are well within their rights to criticize conservatives and conservatives are well within their rights to criticize gays. It's equal opportunity criticism, not "my group is above criticism" but "your group is not."

Two things: who at CU was so blind as to put a pure propagandist like Rosen on the committee to hire (something as dumb) as a 'conservative scholar' position?!?

Second: nobody should be surprised that the dishonest propagandist Rosen defends the childish, bullying, bizarre, dishonest, low and anything-but-scholarly insults flung like so much feces by Hayward. It's how Rosen operates.

ktrav wrote:Two things: who at CU was so blind as to put a pure propagandist like Rosen on the committee to hire (something as dumb) as a 'conservative scholar' position?!?

Second: nobody should be surprised that the dishonest propagandist Rosen defends the childish, bullying, bizarre, dishonest, low and anything-but-scholarly insults flung like so much feces by Hayward. It's how Rosen operates.

Exactly. When the right wing wants people on selection committees, who do they choose? Blowhard talk radio hosts. Imagine if CU had put some blowhard left-wing talk radio host from AM 760 on the committee - Rosen's head would have deployed like an airbag.

Somehow I think we need better committee members than loudmouth radio talking heads for this kind of job, and it really doesn't matter if they're right wing or left wing.

Truth or Consequences wrote:Here's my problem with political correctness: it declares certain groups to be above criticism while declaring open season on others.

"Conservative" game plan #96906734905: when you say stupid, rude things, and get called on it, whine about "political correctness." And then blame the media. Notice that none of this silly behavior has a thing to do with smaller government, or lower taxes, or things that conservatism really stands for - it's just stupid rhetoric designed to appeal to smart bozos.

And, yes, we all have freedom of speech. That doesn't mean that some things are best left unsaid. That's not PC run amok - it's basic courtesy. Since when is that a bad thing?

Truth or Consequences wrote:Here's my problem with political correctness: it declares certain groups to be above criticism while declaring open season on others.

"Conservative" game plan #96906734905: when you say stupid, rude things, and get called on it, whine about "political correctness." And then blame the media. Notice that none of this silly behavior has a thing to do with smaller government, or lower taxes, or things that conservatism really stands for - it's just stupid rhetoric designed to appeal to smart bozos.

And, yes, we all have freedom of speech. That doesn't mean that some things are best left unsaid. That's not PC run amok - it's basic courtesy. Since when is that a bad thing?

When the cons/authoritarians whine about "political correctness", they really give themselves away.

What?! Other are suggesting that people should treat non-privileged groups with some semblance of decency and stop dehumanizing them?!

What.....what monsters those liberals are! Can't they see who the real victims are here?

Truth or Consequences wrote:Here's my problem with political correctness: it declares certain groups to be above criticism while declaring open season on others.

"Conservative" game plan #96906734905: when you say stupid, rude things, and get called on it, whine about "political correctness." And then blame the media. Notice that none of this silly behavior has a thing to do with smaller government, or lower taxes, or things that conservatism really stands for - it's just stupid rhetoric designed to appeal to smart bozos.

And, yes, we all have freedom of speech. That doesn't mean that some things are best left unsaid. That's not PC run amok - it's basic courtesy. Since when is that a bad thing?

When the cons/authoritarians whine about "political correctness", they really give themselves away.

What?! Other are suggesting that people should treat non-privileged groups with some semblance of decency and stop dehumanizing them?!

What.....what monsters those liberals are! Can't they see who the real victims are here?

/clutches pearls

Again -- not to beat you over the head about this, as I've mentioned it before -- let us not confuse "Conservative" with "Neo-Con". Conservatives, by definition, want things to remain as they are. They're not necessarily belligerent about it. For example, I'm very "conservative" regarding the Federal Interstate Highway system. I want that to be maintained and continue to operate efficiently. Ditto with the Postal Service; although I don't use "snail-mail" as much as I used to, I still want to be able to mail a letter if the need arises. Notice I didn't resort to name-calling or any sort of type-casting while stating my conservative interests in these areas. That, in my view, is how it ought to be done. The Neo-Cons, on the other hand, are an entirely different animal. These are real wolves in sheep's clothing, with a political agenda that is anything but "Conservative". Political bombast, mud-slinging and slander are just some of their favorite weapons. "Neo-Fascist" would probably be a more correct term for their political ambitions, but is understandably avoided due to quite expectable voter repugnance. Once we ascertain the difference between "Conservative" and "Neo-Con" it become quite apparent why Conservatives -- those of us who love freeways and snail-mail -- are quite pained at the conflating of the two terms. Generally, I quite enjoy your writing on most topics.Party on, Dude!

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