Not really. All Ramy has is size, his skeletal structure is naturally very large and that’s it. He is a good guy and People love him, but that’s not enough to win the Sandow. Phil is most complete guy nowadays on the stage. People don’t love him, but that’s not enough to defeat him

Aesthetics aren’t a criteria for judging shows, unless in a tiebreaker situation. Condition is first, then bilateral symmetry, then overall proportion, then overall muscle size, then muscle maturity, and last considerations are presentation and aesthetic appearance. Otherwise, guys like Brandon Curry would have been top 6 guys long ago. He was probably the most aesthetically pleasing athlete in the show. He could have walked into classic and looked appropriate.

This was stolen from Ramy just like it was from Kai. Dirty Judges… Dirty Politics… Dirty win… Worst thing about it all is that Phil doesn’t even care. He just wants the win. Doesn’t matter that he knows it was bought for him.

Andy Boutsikakis Phil can’t open his lats from the front…His arms are way out of proportion to everything, his pecs are almost 1/2 the size of Ramy’s, and half the size they should be, the gut makes him look like an alien, the thighs don’t sweep like Dexter or Ramy. To end it Ramy just is the best from the front in every pose…the side pose while Philhas serious separation, doesn’t come close to Ramy glutes, hamstrings, and quads, or his 3 dimensional width and thickness up top. From behind Phils back double beats Ramy hands down, but his rear lat spread cannot come close to Ramy.

I’m always in favor of Phil even when he beat Kia I truly believe Phil was better. But this time I’m sorry Phil you got beat and I must also say I’m not at all a big Ramy fan but not so much that I’m ignorant to the facts. Sad to say but it’s must really suck when big ramy knows he won and so does most everyone but the judges. I felt Phil’s flaws were really exposed this year’s such as his bloated gut and narrow shoulders especially standing next to RAMY

Watch Finals fanboy, Ramy had zero definition, weak separation, weak conditioninig. It doesn’t matter if his chest is wider than Phil. Phil had every visible muscle fiber on his chest, same on legs. Ramy had 2 slabs on his quads while Phils quad had every visible muscle on it. same on shoulders, arms, hamstrings, back. Ramy had Just slabs of muscle and no muscle had that pop that Phils muscle had. only advantages Ramy had was: Width and waist. other than he didnt have nothing. If Phil would have Waist like in 2011 or 2013 Ramy will never be close. How people can’t understand that Ramy have body that cant have good details and conditioning. He will never have details like Jay didnt had details in certain body parts in his whole carrer.

This is why body building isn’t a sport. The judging is subjective. It’s like some men think Beyoncé is the most beautiful woman on earth and some may think another woman. Who’s wrong? Body building is a Beauty pageant.

Not entirely true. They have rubrics they follow. But the human mind is biased and if they favor someone more than another the mind will overlook the flaws. Judging by humans is stupid – look at the judge that scored Canelo and GGG 118 – 110. The job will soon be given to algorithms for every sport.

True…they have rubics they follow but interpret how, when and why those measures are or are not met. Additionally, as humans, their assessment of competition factors are influenced by non-competition factors. For instance, if Phil wasn’t the Olympia sweetheart, the way his stomach looked when he wasn’t in a pose may have caused him to be judged more harshly when he was in a pose. Although u are only supposed to be judged in poses, u can’t unsee what you saw and it effects u….i think that benefit of the doubt that Phil may have gotten is what ppl are complaining about

well said.u must be a good talker n articulate in ENGLISH..u can just imagine marketing n promoting a product n guesting n interviews in muscle magazines needs a comprehensive command of da english language.

Ramy had more striation, more muscle separation. His waist was smaller than Phils and his abs were more visible. His back and legs were better as well. I think the only thing Heath owned him at, was the front double bicep pose. Bullshit like this has happened many times.

Waste smaller than Phils, well, at Least we no upfront that you have no idea what your talking about ?. It is so clear when you watch the head to head, that phil has more defined parts overall. It is so obvious.

Justin you’re right, Heaths back had more muscularity, and more separation, so that’s a mistake on my part. As for you John, you should learn the difference between no and know, cause you just sound a dink.

I love how you avoid showing me proof that Ramys waist was either bigger or big as heaths. If you can’t back your shit up than get lost, cause I don’t have time for someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

And it’s the bubble gut by a nose. I don’t know why everyone says it’s politics, by who? If the IFBB really wants this bloated shrimp as the face of its league then there not as brilliant as I think they are. He is hated by more people than love him and the sport will never grow as long as there is a major jack ass as it’s figure head.

In this pic, Ramy clearly looks better…entire competition wasn’t this pic…maybe his body ‘peaked’ after judging while Phil’s peak was in time for it….the science relating to how the body shows when it is time to show is a part of the contest

Olympia ruled by politics, once again proving The Arnold is now where the prestige is at. So tired of judge Steve – what other industry lets the same guy be the end all be all for this long. Guy has lost perspective and is part of the problem with Olympia – it got stupid with the Mass Monster bloated gut look on his watch – it has become what is has become under him. Time for some new blood (The Arnold) and new judges.

Phil beat ramy because the only thing they marked Phil for was his stomach being bloated, ramy as much as i like him couldn’t hit a side tricep properly probably due to lack of mobility, his lack of quad seperation, calves under proportion, and smaller lower lats. Honestly bonac shouldve placed 2nd because his only flaw is his shorter thicker midsection

Ramy won Phil was pregnant ready to have triplets Phil couldn’t even hold his poses ffs ramy was massive conditioned An had flow An could pose. Ramy is he true king. I hope Phil is happy with the fake win just give him the next 3 now so he can screw off some were An let the real king take over big ramy.

By the way I did watch it in its entirety. In years passed he won it and he won it clearly but this year there two others that should have won it. So now you are saying he is in the same league as Arnold then you are going to say he is in same league as Ronnie lol you are funny! Talk about being biased!

And Phil Queef will win next year so this gap tooth twat can then run his mouth about he’s the best ever since he’s the first to win 8 Sandows. Yes it’s biased as fuck and the judges outta be beat with a toaster oven. Ramy’s legs lacked detail and separation but holy fuck balls Batman that gut on Phil Queef was out of control. That growth hormone is making his gut bloat like his ego.

I’m sick and tired of that half breed phil stealing the win when he has no business winning. That 4 eyed fagot from the ifbb shouldn’t shit were he eats and should go hire male escorts istead of banging phil and giving him the winns.

Big Ramy got robbed looked better and bigger. It’s sad this has become so political and dirty is not even funny. Why y’all think kai didn’t comepete. Because he realised that no matter how great you look you won’t beat phil. Yo but really did anyone noticed Phil’s gut smh. Pathetic smh

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