Welcome

Welcome to the POZ/AIDSmeds Community Forums, a round-the-clock discussion area for people with HIV/AIDS, their friends/family/caregivers, and
others concerned about HIV/AIDS. Click on the links below to browse our various forums; scroll down for a glance at the most recent posts; or join in the
conversation yourself by registering on the left side of this page.

Privacy Warning: Please realize that these forums are open to all, and are fully searchable via Google and other search engines. If you are HIV positive
and disclose this in our forums, then it is almost the same thing as telling the whole world (or at least the World Wide Web). If this concerns you, then do not use a
username or avatar that are self-identifying in any way. We do not allow the deletion of anything you post in these forums, so think before you post.

The information shared in these forums, by moderators and members, is designed to complement, not replace, the relationship between an individual and his/her own
physician.

All members of these forums are, by default, not considered to be licensed medical providers. If otherwise, users must clearly define themselves as such.

Forums members must behave at all times with respect and honesty. Posting guidelines, including time-out and banning policies, have been established by the moderators
of these forums. Click here for “Am I Infected?” posting guidelines. Click here for posting guidelines pertaining to all other POZ/AIDSmeds community forums.

We ask all forums members to provide references for health/medical/scientific information they provide, when it is not a personal experience being discussed. Please
provide hyperlinks with full URLs or full citations of published works not available via the Internet. Additionally, all forums members must post information which are
true and correct to their knowledge.

I went on a little road trip today which round tripped to San Rafael and back to Forestville... I purchased a tank of fuel at $3.55 per gallon in Forestville at the only gas station within 5 miles. I did see a station in Novato with a member price of $3.36 and everyone else was higher than the station in Forestville.

There was a news story a few weeks ago claiming that so many people had stopped driving so much, there was a glut of gasoline across the nation. Gas prices were supposed to go down in order to stimulate sales but,... They went UP, and UP and Higher and Higher. I did not alter my driving patterns to stimulate any sales Have the best dayMichael

I doubt if there is much a diff in gas prices. Its like controlled.It would be great if one place had gas for $3.25 a gal and another for $1.50,but it doesn’t work that way.I imagine the scene from the movie NETWORK, the setting in the dark room around the huge table with those green lamps. And being told in no uncertain terms,how things are to go, by the forces that be. So much for a free market in the gas industry. Or any other for that matter.

Obama said on Larry King 3/20 that while gas companies are making record profits,they are investing NOTHING into alternate gas sources. They just want to fattentheir wallets. Not his exact words, but his point.

My car requires premium gasoline, not that it matters. It only has a 12-gallon tank, so the difference in overall cost is about $2 a tank between regular and premium.

I am paying $3.39 a gallon at the moment. I fully expect to pay more than $4 a gallon sometime this year.

I'm glad I get 35 miles a gallon.

Oh, and Scuddles honey, unlike the miniscule counties in the eastern U.S., we have land here. My home county is slightly more than 5,500 square miles and my work area, the area I cover as case manager, is more than 10,000 square miles.

I doubt if there is much a diff in gas prices. Its like controlled.It would be great if one place had gas for $3.25 a gal and another for $1.50,but it doesnít work that way.I imagine the scene from the movie NETWORK, the setting in the dark room around the huge table with those green lamps. And being told in no uncertain terms,how things are to go, by the forces that be. So much for a free market in the gas industry. Or any other for that matter.

Obama said on Larry King 3/20 that while gas companies are making record profits,they are investing NOTHING into alternate gas sources. They just want to fattentheir wallets. Not his exact words, but his point.

You saying that the difference of . 21 cents per gallon is not a big difference. I only have to drive 8 miles to get it for .21 cents less per gallon. Diesel, is ridiculous, it can vary as much as 50 cents a gallon.

There was a station owner a couple of years ago (in Salinas), who filed a suit against the gasoline distributer. I believe he owned 8 stations in the area and did not have the option to decide how much he should be charging for fuel. Have the best dayMichael

Here in Nuevo Mexico, gas is running $3.21 per gallon for regular, and $3.55 for premium. Our Volkswagen Turbo gets about 30-34 mpg highway, and considering the 80 mile round trip commute 6 days a week it's a good thing. At the other end of the spectrum is the truck, which I have to take into town today to get a bunch of building materials. It takes regular. But with 4 wheel drive, and an extended cab coupled with a 460 cubic inch ( 7.6L) V-8, it swills dead dinosaurs to the tune of 11 mpg. It has 2 gas tanks and costs me about $120 to fill them. It can get depressing to see the gas gauge actually move while driving...

CaptCarl (who will never part with his truck no matter how much gas costs)

I would love to use mass transit. I adore the bus. I love the subways/trains. In San Francisco, I was completely enamored of the cable cars.

I know people say Americans will never get over their love affair with the car. But I think we will.

But, until we get said mass transit in place, people will still have to drive in my neck of the woods because there is simply no way to get around otherwise - walking notwithstanding if they can stay in the same area.

Well, all you rural folks always claim you can't afford to live in a large city, but that's how one does it. You take the car money and add it to your rent, and then you can afford it all. (also factor in car insurance, maintenance, etc.)

I'll stay in the rural area. We don't have to concern ourselves with drive by shootings, electric going out and being stuck in a subway. No thank you, you can keep your city living. I'll stay in the country. Besides someone has to grow the food you are going to eat and the subways and buses don't run out in these rural areas.

I live in a city, though not a metro by any means. They have buses here than run Mon-Sat. And you have to walk about a mile to get one, then transfer several times. It's all rather tedious. Although, if they had subways, I'd be happy.

Logged

I've never killed anyone, but I frequently get satisfaction reading the obituary notices.-Clarence Darrow

I live in a rural area and had a job interview once, when I moved to Guerneville. The job site was 20 miles away so, prior to the interview, I called the transit number to find which bus and the times. Bus # 20 leaves Guerneville and meanders toward Santa Rosa, that part takes two hours for about 30 miles.

Then you wait and wait for another bus which goes North to River Road, Hwy 101, the Airport and the job site. It would take 4 hours to travel 20 miles (if going direct) by bus. Of course, I did not get hired so why worry? Have the best dayMichael

As one who also lives in a rural area, I have to say that I don't live here because I can't afford the city. Rather I live here because I don't like to live in an urban environment. No matter where you choose to hang your hat, there are trade-offs that need to be taken into consideration. When sifting through all the pros and cons, Norm and I decided that rural life is what we wanted for ourselves, we are ready to accept some of the inconveniences of it, preferring the longer drive to the city over actually living there. We both hope some day to find work out here, negating the need to drive in every day. But even then I personally like the 40 mile drive into work, it gives me time to plan my day, and on the way home, the time helps me to decompress before getting home. BettyTacy: What kind of oat do you drive? I love big old cars crappy mpg notwithstanding. We have a '63 Cadillac deVille that has the best ride for long trips. Then there's the '57 DeSoto wagon which isn't on the road yet, but will be our long trip car whenever I get around to finishing it. Have a great day everyone!

BettyTacy: What kind of oat do you drive? I love big old cars crappy mpg notwithstanding. We have a '63 Cadillac deVille that has the best ride for long trips. Then there's the '57 DeSoto wagon which isn't on the road yet, but will be our long trip car whenever I get around to finishing it. Have a great day everyone!

CaptCarl

My Captain, I drive a '94 Ford Crown Vic. I used to have a '70something Cadillac that was so huge, when I went to the grocery store I always parked on the end, fearful of hitting the other cars.

Edited to add: It was a Cadillac El Dorado. I just remembered that a few minutes ago.

« Last Edit: March 25, 2008, 01:52:25 PM by Bettytacy »

Logged

I've never killed anyone, but I frequently get satisfaction reading the obituary notices.-Clarence Darrow

There's just something fun in driving a car big enough to need its own Zip Code, no? I had a 73 El Dorado many moons ago. With the 500 cid (8.2L) V-8 the hig would smoke the fron tires for as long as you cared to hold the gas pedal down. Or until it ran out of gas....

Isn't it crazy Bear?and if we had one of each of those we would be millions, if they were all in reasonable shape or not....depending on what it was. And those cars were built like brick shithouses....sturdy...today we pay all kinds of money for crap.

And not to change the subject but land too.....my grandparents bought thier house and 40 acres for something like $11,000.....people's kitchens and bathrooms cost more than that now.....those were the days

Wow....707 is small, that would be a huge farm around here. I think it all depends on perk tests and how the land is zoned. In the eastern part of Mass. that is what my mother friends sold her cow farm for and it was maybe a 100 acres.

Bear, Those prices seem pretty amazing, but when you factor in the average paycheck of the period, they are priced about what a similar car costs nowadays. My '86 AMC Eagle wagon (Erma) was right around $11,000 when she rolled off the assembly line in Kenosha. In todays dollars, that's about $31k. Today, what is now know as a "Crossover vehicle" such as the Subaru Outback, runs about $30k nicely equipped. I have a friend who had a '58 Cadillac ElDorado Brougham which was hand built to order, and when new cost a staggering $13,500. A new Rolls at the time was about $10 grand, and a new Chevy or Ford convertible could be had for less than $3,000. The mind fairly boggles.

My car right now sits between 1/4 tank and empty. I'm going to go to the station in a few minutes to (maybe) fill it up. Yesterday, prices were $3.29/gallon for regular unleaded. So, we'll see how much it costs to fill up the tank (btw, I have a '94 Ford Crown Vic).

Logged

I've never killed anyone, but I frequently get satisfaction reading the obituary notices.-Clarence Darrow

BettyOh My God...I can just see Betty in the SuperMarket parking lot:wedging her way into a too small parking spot(after pushing a toyota corolla out of the way) and shouting at the dumb struck girl driving it"I'm older and I have more insurance!"

One of the things that I love about Erma is that she gets 25 mpg. That's not too bad considering her size, and the four wheel drive setup, but when you figure in the 22 gallon gas tank, it gives a cruising range of between 450-500 miles depending on if I've gone four wheeling or not. Plus, she has a low compression ratio, so she'll burn the cheap stuff just fine. I imagine even diesel would work in a pinch...

Yesterday, I was in Santa Rosa and noticed the Costco price for fuel was 10 cents cheaper than the other low rent fuel locations... they don't take Visa or MartyrCard and it i a little far away to use all the time but 10 cents per gallon over a year may be some savings Whaka Have the best dayMichael

I was wondering when and where the gas prices hit $4.00... Rich (Wins?) in San Francisco, where you can't get much closer to the refineries ... I was at Costco the other day and noticed their regular unleaded to be 10 cents per gallon than anyone around the river and Santa Rosa for that matter. Of course to get that 10 cents, you have to purchase a 50 buck membership Have the best dayMichael

Michael, your paying about 80 more cents a gallon in the SF area than we are.

From traveling from Northern Calif to Southern Calif over the last few years, I have noticed the further you get away from the refinery (Richmond in the SF Bay area and Wilmington in L.A.), the lower the prices. I bought 20 bucks yesterday in Forestville at $3.55 and noticed today the price had gone up to $3.59 overnight. The same station in Santa Rosa was charging $3.64 today. Have the best dayMichael