This thread is good because it's a substitue for Facebook Status Updates for people like me who are too cool to want their RL name associated with lame Staus Updates. In other words forums are a recepticle for the shit no-one wants to say IRL. Anyone who denies that to themself will only suffer from dashed expectations.

In the spirit of the above:

Wake up at 2pm followed by gym followed by Fifa 2012 all evening. Sunday ftw.

I love rootbeer in bottles SO much! I wish that they served it that way at bars so that I could order it and feel like the guys in westerns who order sasparilla

What is sasparilla? What is root beer? Is this another name for ginger beer? Or is it like dandilion and budock?

All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

Introspection failed because people did it wrong. Empathy too will fail because people are doing it wrong. It doesn't work if people don't ditch their ego.

People will instead say "Oh we are being so empathic, but things are still shitty! Empathy is clearly not the answer!" Well nothing is the answer when one is a doof and thinks they are separate and only wants some end result out of it.

I'm not able to watch that right now, is it recommending extroversion over introversion? Introspection is associated with introversion isnt it?

If empathy is better than altruism at all it is because it involves more mutuality, it is loving others as thyself rather than doing unto others as you would have them do unto you, which is a better idea because the ego, the rational, calculating self, is inescapable.

All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

I'm not able to watch that right now, is it recommending extroversion over introversion? Introspection is associated with introversion isnt it?

If empathy is better than altruism at all it is because it involves more mutuality, it is loving others as thyself rather than doing unto others as you would have them do unto you, which is a better idea because the ego, the rational, calculating self, is inescapable.

Yes, but it's not the 'what it does' that's the problem. It's the 'why people do it' that's the problem.

Let's say for example that I'm seeking a new social paradigm, and decide that empathy is the means to accomplish it. If my paradigm is faulty, or impossible, and I throw out the concept of empathy because it failed to meet MY expectations, then I've made a mockery of empathy and ruined its purpose.

Yes, but it's not the 'what it does' that's the problem. It's the 'why people do it' that's the problem.

Let's say for example that I'm seeking a new social paradigm, and decide that empathy is the means to accomplish it. If my paradigm is faulty, or impossible, and I throw out the concept of empathy because it failed to meet MY expectations, then I've made a mockery of empathy and ruined its purpose.

Sometimes people do the right thing for the wrong reasons, that's true.

All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

Yes, but it's not the 'what it does' that's the problem. It's the 'why people do it' that's the problem.

Let's say for example that I'm seeking a new social paradigm, and decide that empathy is the means to accomplish it. If my paradigm is faulty, or impossible, and I throw out the concept of empathy because it failed to meet MY expectations, then I've made a mockery of empathy and ruined its purpose.

Sometimes people do the right thing for the wrong reasons, that's true.

All for ourselves, and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.
Chapter IV, p. 448. - Adam Smith, Book 3, The Wealth of Nations

What is sasparilla? What is root beer? Is this another name for ginger beer? Or is it like dandilion and budock?

you know, there's this awesome website that answers all kinds of random questions that anybody can think up... it's called wikipedia!

“71-hour Ahmed was not superstitious. He was substitious, which put him in a minority among humans. He didn't believe in the things everyone believed in but which nevertheless weren't true. He believed instead in the things that were true in which no one else believed.” -Terry Pratchett