if chuck were in his 20s in this da and age he coulda been a real mma bad ass, hell he still is at His given age. he is the man. now imagine someone with bruce lee's striking and overallskill and give him solid jiu jitsu/ groudnfighting (i don know how good his actual groundfighting skill was but im sure it was improveable) and u have an unbeatable fighting machine.

I wish chuck would let the "could u beat Bruce lee in a real fight" question go. In some interviews he says Bruce would beat him and in others he says I'm a real fighter Bruce wasn't. Answer honestly or let it go

As for a real fight, chuck is bigger and has more recorded victories under his belt.

I love Bruce Lee, but I would suggest that he was what we like to call a gym fighter. He was a coach that could undoubtedly pass on great knowledge and whoop the ass of regular guys, but actual fights are different. The safety is off, and when you add that the guy across from you has been in this scenario a few times and knows how to handle himself it's a whole new ball game.

could be wrong, but how many great coaches are great fighters and how many great fighters are great coaches?

Love Bruce, and totally buy into him being larger than life in the personality and fighting department. Still, real fights are different and the stories of his fight with Wong Jack Man prove that he was very human, no matter which one you believe.

The two met at Lee's Oakland school in the winter, with about 15 onlookers split between their respective schools and no referee or major rules. What transpired next is hotly contested.

Lee's side of the story was that of a quick victory, overwhelming Wong with a Wing Chun style attack and defeating him in about three minutes. Wong's side of the story is of a 20 minute battle that ended in a draw. Both stories have their aspects that make it seem unlikely.

Wong's story reeks of excuse making. He claimed Lee fought dirty, attempting to gouge his eyes, crush his throat with strikes, and kick him in the groin. Wong additionally claimed he held himself back several times to protect both Lee from serious harm and himself from legal action. That if he had let himself go he could have killed Lee. The story that comes from Lee's camp seems equally unlikely, as Lee was famously unhappy with the fight and began to seriously rethink his training. It seems implausible that a quick and nearly effortless victory would cause so much soul-searching on Lee's part.

The truth is likely somewhere in the middle. As there is no claim that Wong won the match it is likely it was either a hard fought Lee win or they fought to a stand still

im not here to hype or defend his corpse but if bruce had mastered grappling and grapplign defense as much as his striking , i fail to see anyone be a match for him in his respective weight class. he was a true pound for pounder who worked out 24/7..like a madman. ive never seen a more intense individual..also, the way he took that wong man jack fight was like any good martial artist would take it: u try to improve and learn from it..thats Bas 101

The fight u speak of was years before he was a star and was followed by his fanatic workouts that gave him ridiculous skills.

As far as skills goes I think chuck Norris is overrated. He was a great karate practitioner but have u ever watched a tournament?? They are glorified games of tags. And chuck wasn't that fast or stronger than Bruce

At the other end Bruce was very vocal about his anything goes street style and promoted poking eyes hitti nuts and biting. If u want a story about Bruce, check the one about him beating up a local boxer on he set of enter the dragon for hassling.

i remember judo gene saying chuck is the best kicker he has ever seen. also indicated a chuck norris vs bruce lee fight would've been Lee getting raped.

of course, that's judo gene, who seems to have something to say for everything. sometimes its hard to tell what is and isn't sour grapes.

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Chuck could very well have smashed Bruce in a real fight, but you know who keeps getting overlooked here...and would have beaten ALL of those guys, as he beat the best fighter in the era [ despite giving up 40-50 lbs ]?

He beat Joe Lewis [ R.I.P. ] in their match, and despite the blatant racism that gave Joe the victory? Even Joe admitted that Steve Muhammad beat him. Bruce was so impressed with Muhammad that he nicknamed him "The Fastest Hands In Karate" and built alot of his subsequent style on things that [ now Grandmaster and creator of his own style ] Sijo Steve Muhammad did in the ring.

The great advantage that Chuck has over Sijo nowadays is Chuck's amazing grappling. Sijo has the advantage everywhere else. And Sijo's a better kicker too. By far. Not even close. And Sijo is deadly with knives and firearms.

I oughtta know. I've been a member of the BKF [ among other organizations ] my entire life.