Then tell me how ironic it would be if Bush is never prosecuted for his war crimes but is for violation of elections laws. Kind of like Mafia types who get busted for income tax invasion but not murder!

Just because you are a republican doesn't mean you can't contribute to 527's.
Using the logic Kerry used the moveon.org is a front for democrats. I wonder how much of Heinz's money ended up in their pocket via Tide or other methods?

Last March the Republican National Committee and President Bushs campaign filed a similar complaint with the FEC accusing anti-Bush groups such as the Media Fund and America Coming Together of a conspiracy to violate federal election laws by coordinating with the Kerry campaign.

Just because you are a republican doesn't mean you can't contribute to 527's.
Using the logic Kerry used the moveon.org is a front for democrats. I wonder how much of Heinz's money ended up in their pocket via Tide or other methods?

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527's and any other funding of a candidate should not be allowed unless it is by the people themselves (and limited to $100 TOTAL to a candidate or a party).

IMO we need to get money out of politics, in particular Big Money. We need to send Bush;s Pioneers to the free range areas of Canada.

Why not prosecute Kerry for his war crimes? He admitted them in the 1970's.

I sure find it interesting that freedom of speech doesn't apply to this group. The Kerry campaign has been doing everything they can to stop these guys. Everything but release the official military records pertaining to the events that they contest.

Also if Bush told these guys to stop doing what they are doing, it would be in violation of the rules governing a 577's. (Since Bush would be collaborating with them, and they can't collaborate with a candidate.)

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Do we not allow for posthumous lawsuits, if so Reagan should be held for war crimes.

All good liberals know that evil Republicans should all be jailed...
Whats funny to me is the Kerry campaign has had the same charges filed against them over 2 months ago...
I guess the media didnt think it was important to report it... with the same verve they did Kerry's accusation...

Besides... the whole war record argument is a joke anyway....
I mean who cares.... Kerry served in Nam so what.... Then he threw away the medals... so what...
Bush served in the guard... so what...

I dont think the whole I served here you served there is going to make any difference in the minds of voters anyway...
It sure ddint during the Clinton/Bush or Clinton/Dole campaigns

Clinton was a Rhode scholar which is how he got his deferment (if I recall correctly).

Bush got his rich daddy to get him into the national guard (only slightly fishy) and then he didn't even bother to do that. That is my issue.

I have no problem with draft dodgers. I have no problem with people who fled to Canada to avoid going to a war they didn't believe in. I have no problem with people who went to jail or found some way to get out of going to war.

What I do have a problem with is someone claiming to have served his country when he did not and then starting an illegal, immoral war.

Bush is a hypocrite. He did everything he could to get out of not only going to Vietnam and serving in the national guard but then he turns around and justifies a war based on his own lies. He is full of bull****. Even if we don't try him for war crimes, history *will* judge him.

CRAWFORD, Texas (Reuters) - A Vietnam veteran who worked with President Bush's campaign has left over his appearance in a commercial by a group challenging Democratic candidate John Kerry's war record, a campaign spokesman said on Saturday.

Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said Ken Cordier was a Bush supporter during the 2000 election and served as a member of his a steering committee to help reach out to veterans during this election.

"Col. Cordier did not inform the campaign of his involvement in the advertisement being run by (Swift Boat Veterans for Truth)," Schmidt said. "Because of his involvement with this 527 (group), Col. Cordier will no longer participate" in the steering committee.

The disclosure of Cordier's involvement came one day after White House spokesman Scott McClellan and Bush campaign chairman Marc Racicot denied the campaign coordinated with the group on the ads, which claim that Kerry lied about his Vietnam War service.

Is there any suprise here?
Of course the SBVT are Bush Supporters with ties to the Bush campaign

Just like The Moveon guys are tied to Kerry....

Dont be naive...

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So you admit Kerry is right in calling SBVT a front group of the Bush campaign? I know it is obvious, but the Bush administration is denying it even as they have to explain dismissing senior members of their campaign for working with the group. Of course it doesn't stop there, but all of this is ILLEGAL. It is also a time honored tactic of Rove and Bush. I'm not being naive or cynical here. Not everybody resorts to these kind of slimy tactics - Bush does.

As to Kerry and MoveOn, all you have to do is provide the ties and I'll happily second your condemnation. In short, they are a liberal group opposed to Bush, but with no special tie with Kerry or obvious coordination with his campaign. They existed well before this election cycle and have their own agenda. Sometimes that coincides with Kerry's; sometimes it doesn't.

One thing you fail to mention is how MoveOn has put out the kind of lies about Bush the SBVT has done about Kerry. I'd like to see a comparison.

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