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Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

Is there an easy way to get counters on Incubation Druid? I was looking for mana-producing 2 drops to feed Birthing Pod. So far the ones I have come up with are Viridian Emissary and Wall of Roots. Incubation Druid seems like a serious upgrade if there is an easy way to get a counter on it. The only way I can think of currently is the graft land, Llanowar Reborn. I am already going to include at least 1x Elvish Reclaimer. With only BG for colors I can squeeze in a utility land or two for Reclaimer to tutor up. I'm definitely doing Bojuka Bog and Phyrexian Tower, Karakas and Wasteland/Ghost Quarter out of the board potentially.

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Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

Originally Posted by Mr. Safety

Is there an easy way to get counters on Incubation Druid? I was looking for mana-producing 2 drops to feed Birthing Pod. So far the ones I have come up with are Viridian Emissary and Wall of Roots. Incubation Druid seems like a serious upgrade if there is an easy way to get a counter on it. The only way I can think of currently is the graft land, Llanowar Reborn. I am already going to include at least 1x Elvish Reclaimer. With only BG for colors I can squeeze in a utility land or two for Reclaimer to tutor up. I'm definitely doing Bojuka Bog and Phyrexian Tower, Karakas and Wasteland/Ghost Quarter out of the board potentially.

Neoform seem like the easiest options. Ive seen some versions with neoform... like T1 vet -> T2 neoform -> sac veteran, get snapcaster, flashback neoform, sac snapcaster, get witness return neoform, tutor for some 4 drop next turn. But saccing veteran into neoform for the druid seems good as well

edit: obviously you cant witness neoform after snapcaster flashback... but get druid instead should be OK. Thanks @mistercakes to point that out

Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

Originally Posted by Kriggy

Neoform seem like the easiest options. Ive seen some versions with neoform... like T1 vet -> T2 neoform -> sac veteran, get snapcaster, flashback neoform, sac snapcaster, get witness return neoform, tutor for some 4 drop next turn. But saccing veteran into neoform for the druid seems good as well

Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

Originally Posted by Matsu

What is GDD?

Goblin Dark-Dwellers.

The ideal hand would be turn 1 play a Vine Dryad/Skyshroud Cutter for free, discard a ESG for a green mana, cast neoform targeting the free 4cc creature in order to put GDD into play, which in turn recasts Neoform targetting GDD, getting you a turn 1 Carnage Tryant/Primeval Titan/Grave Titan/Sire of Insanity/Ruric Thar or whatever else 6cc monster you think will essentially win you the game on turn 1.

The mediocre plays are stuff like hardcasting ESG then Shardless Agent/Violent Outburst/Ardent Plea/Demonic Dread -> Neoform/Eldrich Evolution it into an Atraxa, or Neoforming a Veteran Explorer into an Incubation Druid in order to hardcast Primeval Titan on turn 3.

Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

Originally Posted by Captain Hammer

Goblin Dark-Dwellers.

The ideal hand would be turn 1 play a Vine Dryad/Skyshroud Cutter for free, discard a ESG for a green mana, cast neoform targeting the free 4cc creature in order to put GDD into play, which in turn recasts Neoform targetting GDD, getting you a turn 1 Carnage Tryant/Primeval Titan/Grave Titan/Sire of Insanity/Ruric Thar or whatever else 6cc monster you think will essentially win you the game on turn 1.

The mediocre plays are stuff like hardcasting ESG then Shardless Agent/Violent Outburst/Ardent Plea/Demonic Dread -> Neoform/Eldrich Evolution it into an Atraxa, or Neoforming a Veteran Explorer into an Incubation Druid in order to hardcast Primeval Titan on turn 3.

I have seen many things in Nicfit the last couple of years. But that is something completely new.

Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

I'm trying to brew a good Neoform list because I think this card is the key to finally make a good Therapy + Force of Will deck that fully abuses GSZ, Yay! I haven't played Nic Fit for a while but I think Neoform pushes this deck over the top! Here's what I have in mind:

This with 4 Explorers and 4 Strix is pretty much the skeleton of the deck. It provides the necessary disruption and tutors/manipulation to enable the plays.

2 Assassin's Trophy because I had 2 slots left and Trophy gives the most versatile removal for the least cost given that we already plan on giving our opponents basic lands.

The SB is really rough but I figured I'd want some Thoughtseize, Surgicals, and Force of Negation for Combo decks. The Tyrant's Scorn seemed pretty good against all sorts of decks like as a blue card for Force, removal for early creatures, and bounce spells for some tougher creatures (Marrit Lage and Reanimator). I also like how it can be used to bounce our own creatures for added value or as a cycling effect. A single Rec Sage seems like an auto-include. B2B is there to have a bomb against all the decks that go bigger than us (12Posts and Lands mainly). It also hoses all the decks without basics. A Man-o'-War as an answer to Show n Tell, Reanimator, Marrit Lage, or simple as a tempo card against creature decks that pitches to FoW. The Collector Oophe is the best I could find as a cheap GSZ target against Storm when I don't have Neoform or have to pitch it.

The main plan would be to go the usual Explorer/Strix route with the added Neoform sac outlet, grab the best 2-3 drop and then use that mana and card advantage for FoW and to sink it in GSZ or the more expensive cards. In the advent that my T1 GSZ or Explorer into T2 CMC3 card is not relevant to the matchup, I can Neoform them for some select 4drops.

What important creatures am I missing? Or are there any that shouldn't be in the main? Meren and Titania are the slots I am the least sure about so I would appreciate your input for these slots.

I thought about Tireless Tracker but I don't see in what matchup I would want to GSZ for him over Leo or Witness because I probably won't be using Neoform to grab him if I can get TNN or Plague. If those happen to be dead, well Witness is likely my choice here.

Thanks for reading!

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Re: [Primer] Nic Fit

Hello, I play this deck since many years and had a few top 8's and a lot of fun with it
Over the last 2 years I played a straight GB shell with a small white SB option.
The deck is heavily focused on card advantage and performs well against blue control decks, with some interesting options vs combo too.
Here's my classic GB list

The deck is solid, though I'd like to put a little more pressure on the opponent.
The core strategy is to win through card advantage with slow planeswalker or to slam the opponent with Nissa VF or Titania (the real star of the deck).
I'd NEVER swap the crop rotation package for anything else, as it gives an answer against Emrakul/Reanimator/early wastelands/STP's on your beasts as well as more card advantage in conjunction with the 2 trackers and Titania.

Changes I would make now:

+1 Meren, -1 Deed maindeck
+1 Deed, -1 Containment Priest sideboard
I'll probaby try to find a spot for a single Nurturing Peatland, maybe in the place of Volrath's.

Now I'm tinkering around a jund list with Wrenn and Six, I'll post that later.

Yes. That's the whole premise behind the Neo Fit deck I posted above. Being able to tutor any 3drop on T2 with a +1/+1 counter is very powerful. You can even grab a 4drop T3 if you Neo your Snapcaster for a Spellseeker. I've been working on Neo Fit casually and have been surprised at how good it could be. Neoform is the next step for Nic Fit if you want a competitive Vet Ex deck.

There are a lot of toolboxes at hand here which makes the deck quite challenging and resourceful. Force of Will postboard is a really strong addition to our Combo matchup. T2 Spellseeker crushes Depths decks. T2 4/4 Leovold or 4/2 TNN is massive against most of the fair decks. Spellseeker is amazing in this deck and enables so many lines.

There are so many ways to build this deck and it is difficult to find the best one...

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