35 thoughts on “Atheists, if science did not exist what would you believe in?”

One analogy Adams put forward about religion was that of the ‘sentient puddle’. This analogy is intended to refute the suggestion that the existence of God and his love for mankind would be proven because the world is perfectly designed for our needs. He compared such thinkers to an intelligent puddle of water. He said the puddle is certain that the hole in the ground it occupies must have been designed specifically for it because it fits him so well. The puddle exists under the sun until it has entirely evaporated.

The ‘Big Bang’ did none of those things … physics and natural selection did that. Your education is showing.

"But we all know there is one true God" Who is "we"? All the people that think like you? I know no such thing, I have seen no evidence that anything is being controlled by any intelligent entity (now that doesn’t mean a retarded entity isn’t controlling things).

I understand YOU need to believe that some THING makes it all happen, and that is fine. I used to think and believe as you do once. But, I grew up and had to face MY version of reality. I’m happy with it, just as you’re happy with yours. I don;’t begrudge you your beliefs, why are your panties so twisted if I choose not to believe as you do? Does that pose some kind of threat to you?

And merely saying what you’ve said isn’t presenting testable and falsifiable evidence for what you believe, therefore no one is really obligated to take your statements seriously.

And why people associate species change over time as a reaction to environment as "accidental" is a mystery to me. Just reveals a base level of ignorance about what Evolution actually is. It’s not accidental at all. In fact, it’s anything but.

Why are you under the mistaken impression that religion and science are somehow in conflict? The Big Bang was a derogatory name applied by secular scientists to the ideas of Fr. Georges Lemaitre, a Catholic preist, who was trying to explain Edwin Hubble’s well documented, observable red-shifts in galaxies (which demonstrates that all galaxies are moving rapidly away from one another, and therefore, at one time, must have been very, very close to one another). This idea, of the universe having a point of origin, developing from a rapidly expanding singularity, so affronted scientists, who thought is sounded too religiousy, that they said, "Oh what? It was some sort of big bang?" However, scientists, not being dogmatically bound, can change their minds when confronted by a preponderance of evidence. So, as cosmic background radiation, and other effects that the big bang hypothesis predicted should be observable, were indeed observed, most scientists became convinced. And the ability of a hypothesis to make accurate predictions like that is one of the things that will advance an idea from an unsupported hypothesis to a well documented theory.

Science makes no comment on God or no God. The Big Bang has nothing to do with origins of life on this planet.

However, does it seem likely to you, that even if there were a first cause, an unmoved mover, that this uncreated creator of a universe 14 billion light years across has special plans for our one little species on one little planet orbiting one ordinary star among trillions upon trillions? Do you further imagine it possible that this being cares about our consensual sexual behaviors, dietary habits, modes of dress, etc.? What do you think of folks who want to impose kinds of legislation upon other people merely on the basis of what they think the human incarnation of this infinitude meant when he said this or that? And isn’t fairly absurb to imagine that it is so insecure as to need our worship and so petty as to convict people to eternal torment for a thought crime of disbelief?

Science existed from the moment fire and wheels were developed for humans as tools to use.
Religion frowned upon progress in human knowledge. The story of Prometheus stealing fire for humans should be familiar to many people. Ultimately the gods punished men by giving Pandora box to Prometheus’ wife, knowing that her curiosity would open up all the ills into the world!

Humans ARE apes, it’s a phylogenetic classification and the ‘axis perfectly tilted’ is nonsense. The fact that you are ignorant to even the most rudimentary principles of science does not mean god exists.

Instead of telling me to ‘keep thinking’, you should proabably start thinking.

Well I never believed, at the age of 7 I was openly stating that. I had yet to even hear about the big bang, evolution or scientific theory but spent much time in church and bible class. I simply found it to be ridiculous, as ridiculous as your statement that things are perfect, please tell me what drugs you are on to believe that one.

Oh boy are you going to get some spiteful answers. No matter how much logic you show the atheist will never let facts cloud their judgment. Not because they don’t believe, but because they don’t want God to be real so they don’t have to be responsible for their lives

The inability of your feeble mind to grasp the complexities of evolution, ecology, chemistry, and physics does not invalidate the working models of the universe that they form.

If believing in your magical, bearded sky-man makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside, more power to you. Just don’t expect everyone to believe the same thing as you, or to follow your rules. Let other people live how they want to live.

News flash, things are definitely not perfect. Not anywhere or with anything.

Firstly, no one ever said that to be an Atheist you had to believe in the Big Bang.

Secondly, The Big Bang is not theorized to give us season and time, season come from the Earth’s tilt along with its revolution around the sun. This is proven and it doesn’t mean the Big Bang made it that way.

Thirdly, Dogs help the blind walk because us humans train them to do that, they are not born to do that naturally. Mute point.

Fourthly, you continually make it seem as though you think The Big Bang is a theory on how life started, which it is not. It is simply a theory on the beginning of the universe, not life on Earth.

Fifthly, and for the last time, Evolution does not state that we come from apes, it states we come from a common ancestor which is now extinct.

You have demonstrated a profound ignorance of both the Big Bang and Evolutionary theories. Before you discredit them, open a science book and read about them please.

Science would exist no matter what you call it. If, as you suggest, "science" could disappear, I would believe in the logical explanations for the existence of the phenomena we experience on Earth and as a part of the Universe. You want to call it a different name? OK, let’s call it "ecneics," which is science spelled backward.

It doesn’t matter what you call it. It IS the source of real explanations for how we got here, and your pathetic attempt to deny reality fails miserably.

If science didn’t exist humans probably wouldn’t function well as we use science in our every day lives. We find things, analyze… try to figure them out. Without science nothing would be invented, our lives would still be as long as 37 or so years and we’d have children (for survival) in our teenaged years and multiples of them as many would likely die. The 21st century would be the 1st century (admittedly, there were scientists then, but you know what I mean). We would never progress without any knowledge of science to guide us in our day-to-day lives.

… Evolution by natural selection is the very opposite of chance. Apes (humans are a form of ape) and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor. We did not evolve from apes directly.

Also, you are confusing the Big Bang (which you have poor knowledge of) with evolution.

I see miracles all around me
Stop and look around, it’s all astounding
Water, fire, air and dirt
Fucking magnets, how do they work?
And I don’t wanna talk to a scientist
Y’all motherfukers lying, and getting me pissed
Solar eclipse, and vicious weather
Fifteen thousand Juggalos together
And I love my mom for giving me this
Time on this planet, taking nothing for granted
I seen a caterpillar turn into a butterfly
Miracles ain’t nothing to lie

There is so much wrong with what you just said that I scarcely know where to begin. My first advice to you is to study the theory of evolution, as you clearly have a very poor understanding of it. And as for "this was all an accident"……really? Something that results from the existence of clearly testable, observable natural laws is an accident? I don’t think so. The rest of your question (which really isn’t a question at all now, is it?) simply assumes that the Earth as we know it today was the goal. Look up something called the anthropic principle.

But thank you. I will keep thinking that this world was created by chance.

And you think on this:
What if this is not the only planet that sustains life? Or what if it is the only planet that very successfully sustains life? What if there are other planets, in other galaxies, that are just slightly imperfect, yet can sustain some moving-blob-type organisms? What if, if there were planets that were just one element shy of sustaining intelligent life?
Do you know how many galaxies there are? The number is estimated at about 125 million. Do you know how many planets there are in those galaxies? That number is estimated at about 500 billion per galaxy. That would mean there are approximately 62,500,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the universe (possibly more). Many of them could sustain life, but we just don’t know about them yet.
If you have ever gambled, you know that there is always the chance that you could hit the jackpot. No matter how slim that chance is, it is always possible. It’s quite the same for the Big Bang. You could win more than once, or you could not win at all. It’s not at all up to you, it’s simply chance. And with 62,500,000,000,000,000,000 chances to win, I’d say the odds are favorable.

"I”m 100% sure you guys will most likely be polytheistic or monotheistic. But we all know there is one true God." You lost me there–"monotheistic" IS the belief in only one God.

Science tests everything against mathematics and the rules of logic. There’s nothing wrong with doing that. (This also means that science doesn’t just make things up–the Big Bang has a whole lot of mathematical equations that it MUST conform to, for example.)

If I dare correct one of the posts above me: The Big Bang was not an explosion IN space; it was the explosion OF space: The heat of the explosion is everywhere now, because it always has been everywhere–everywhere just keeps getting bigger (and thus colder). And the universe isn’t flat; it’s just so very tremendously big that the curvature is exceedingly small (just like the earth is "flatter" than the moon, because the earth is larger and its horizon is farther away).

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