(i do presales for Dell premium partner)

Dell_-_gumanow

Dell_-_gumanow

Ps4100 and Ps6100 should get 3TB shortly. The 300gb 15K 2.5" is further out at this point.

AlainRussell

Are there performance differences between the 4100 and 6100 chassis aside from throughput from more nics? future expansion

Dell_-_gumanow

Differences... 4100 dual core, 6100 quad core.

Dell_-_gumanow

and yes, more throughput

hansdeleenheer

so the only disks not available at this point are E3tb and Xv 300, 2.5" ?

Dell_-_gumanow

2 x 1000base-t vs. 4 x 1000base-t

Dell_-_gumanow

Both have dedicated management ports now.... Yipppeee

Dell_-_gumanow

@hans: that is correct.

hansdeleenheer

ooow, about that management port on the 6100: Thank You !!!!

Dell_-_gumanow

I showed that at Vmworld and people went made over it.

Dell_-_gumanow

mad

Dell_-_gumanow

opps

hansdeleenheer

no ore troubleshooting with the laptop plugged into the iscsi switches

Dell_-_gumanow

exactly

khsieh

Is the management port required, or can I just use the standard Eth0, Eth1... ports for management like on older models?

hansdeleenheer

euh, why would you?

Dell_-_gumanow

you can use eth0-3 if you want to.

Dell_-_gumanow

thanks hans!

JeffHengesbach

6gb Sas + 2.5" drives = huge deal Imo. I also think the $10K model is a better long term solution than something like Vsa from vsphere. Vsa 1.0 = very limited, fixed configuration.

hansdeleenheer

you should be %%%% fool to give up a 1GbE iscsi port for Out of Band management if you get a dedicated 100mb prot for free> But hey, who am i?

Dell_-_gumanow

@jeff: I'd agree with that.

khsieh

I do all my managment in band on my Ps400e, and I don't see why I would want to burn two of my limited switch ports for management if I don't have to.

hansdeleenheer

you could still amange your array through the group ip address

Dell_-_gumanow

What do you guys think about the Vsp?

Dell_-_gumanow

Vps?

Dell_-_gumanow

and I haven't had anything to drink

Dell_-_gumanow

::biglips

Dell-JeffS

naturally goofy

hansdeleenheer

ok, heres another one ::beer ove rhere we have plenty of those ;)

Dell_-_gumanow

where is over here?

Dell_-_gumanow

Germany I'm guessing?

Dell_-_gumanow

Belgium

Dell_-_gumanow

opps

abartlett

Jeff - I've stopped thinking about what kind of stunts Emc err I mean vmware pull out of their hat.

abartlett

Vsa would be good if they were giving it away. You can buy a cheap dedicated iscsi box for the money they want.

abartlett

/rant

JeffHengesbach

abartlett: I'm with you

sarahlcook

So what are the benefits of the new drive sizes?

wonder_nerd

lol... yeah vsp is an interesting duck... knowing the tech it appears to be built on... :D

Dell-LanceB

What does everyone thing about the 2.5 drive options?

Dell-JeffS

welcome audiomatron, Ryan -- you can click 'action/recent room history' to catch up on the conversation

hansdeleenheer

i think it is very good Lance

Dell-JeffS

guess Ryan was leaving...

hansdeleenheer

I will use 24 x 300 solutions instead of 16 x 600

Dell_-_gumanow

24x300 = more spindles = more Iops

JeffHengesbach

2.5 = A+ Density, power, spindles, spindles spindles

hansdeleenheer

it's all about the spindles right?

abartlett

concur hans

Dell_-_gumanow

we've got a 600gb x 24, but it is 4U, not 2U like the 300gb x 24.

kculw

sorry i'm late

hansdeleenheer

only issue for me now will be ethe transition period. I really want to get them in the field but the prices of the current models are soooo low :) that i cant sell them right now

AlainRussell

We ordered a 24x900gb 4100x yesterday to replace our aging Md3000i so quite looking forward to seeing what it can do (first Eq unit)

abartlett

i know it's Eql day but we just ordered a 3620i - like the 2.5" form factor, able to deliver lots of storage. only problem is the 10gbase-t ports (we'll live with it on 1 and see if I can get a 10gbt switch in a few years if the prices ever come down to earth)

AlainRussell

Can you explain a bit more about vertical port failover - not sure I 100% understand this

Dell_-_gumanow

welcome Alain!

Dell-JeffS

Hey kculw! Hit action/recent room history to catch up

Dell_-_gumanow

@barlett: prices should come down in the future of 10gbase-t. We are at the start of it right now.

hansdeleenheer

anybody know how long 4000 and 6000 will still ship?

hansdeleenheer

and how about the big boy 6500?

abartlett

gumanow - concur, which is why we are future proofing a bit.

Dell-LanceB

@alainrussell - look for a more in depth article on the verticle port failover, but maybe @gumanow can tell us a little more about it.

Dell_-_gumanow

sure... Wire up all of your ports on both controllers. the network ports are connected across the backplane inside the array, and if port Eth0 were to fail on the active controller, Only the network port would failover, Not the entire controller.

kculw

hmm, fault domains =)

Dell_-_gumanow

Eth0/active would failover to Eth0/passive controller... remains at full bandwidth

Dell_-_gumanow

you could also wire up only half your ports and be at full Bw.

ryansteed

will there be any changes to rails? i've always prefered the server and Md rails

JeffHengesbach

Have to run folks. Later.

hansdeleenheer

wooow, could you repeat that? we are using ports from both controllers at that point or what?

Dell_-_gumanow

If you have a controller failure, you'd be at half Bw until the controller comes back.

Dell_-_gumanow

Two ports from Active, Two ports from Passive... 4 ports.

hansdeleenheer

ok

hansdeleenheer

in pairs

Dell_-_gumanow

However... if you have a controller failure, you'd be at half-bandwidth.

Dell_-_gumanow

not ideal, but if you are limited on switch ports, might be an option.

Dell-John

We offer two rail types. They are called Versarail, the other is Rapidrails. Versarail fits round hole racks, Rapid is for square hole racks

Dell_-_gumanow

Love them rails, uh-huh.

ryansteed

ok great. thanks!

Dell_-_gumanow

We even have Rapidrails for Ps6500 now!!!

Dell-John

Rapidrails make it a lot easier and faster to rack 'em up (toolless).

hansdeleenheer

anyone got the answer on my Q about availability of current ;odels lease?

AlainRussell

great, thanks gumanow

Dell_-_gumanow

No more ball-bearings on the floor, or 6 hours to install it.

AlainRussell

will dig out the more in depth document today

Dell_-_gumanow

@hans: having trouble with getting models?

Dell_-_gumanow

E, X, Xv, S?

abartlett

raipd rails are the best

hansdeleenheer

no, want to know how i d still be able to sell current models

wonder_nerd

word

Dell-JeffS

Thanks for the Rt's Kong/tony

hansdeleenheer

4000/6000/6500

AlainRussell

Thanks for the quick info - I've got to shoot (8.30am here in Nz so work time)

Dell_-_gumanow

Oooooo

Dell_-_gumanow

6500, 6510, and 6010 will all live on for some time.

Dell-LanceB

Thanks Alain for joining us today ... check back in a couple days for a full transcript

AlainRussell

great, will do :)

Dell_-_gumanow

The 4000 and 6000 will Eol in about 60 days, really depends upon your region and supply.

hansdeleenheer

wooow, that really is soon

Dell_-_gumanow

suggest checking with your region.

Dell-LanceB

@hans ... you need to stock up on them now

hansdeleenheer

yes, i will but had no idea it would have been so soon

hansdeleenheer

haha Lance, you don't want to know how many offers go out wth Eql weekly!

kculw

4100/6100 will still integrate seamlessly with older models so it shouldn't be an issue

Dell_-_gumanow

that's correct

Dell-LanceB

sure I do ... how many ...

hansdeleenheer

I agree but the prices now are for so;e ;odels double if you look at $/TB

Dell_-_gumanow

whoa... these should be same $/TB as current models.

hansdeleenheer

nope, current models have droped so much in price

Dell_-_gumanow

maybe you need a new salesperson? :-)

Dell_-_gumanow

we planned to match pricing

hansdeleenheer

give me a second, got a example ready

hansdeleenheer

i don't have just one salesperson boys, the whole department at Dell Belgium wporks for me, hahaha

hansdeleenheer

ok, I'll shut up now for a few minutes :)

sarahlcook

Will the new arrays work with my older arrays?

hansdeleenheer

what a question sarah. off course they will ! :-)

Dell-LanceB

That is the Equallogic way ...

Dell-John

Yes, yes, yes! Old and new arrays will work together...

hansdeleenheer

is the 4100 still capped at 2 per group of 16?

Dell-LanceB

@hans yes the 4100 still plays by the same rules and the Ps4000

Dell-LanceB

opps as the 4000 - 2 per group

sarahlcook

Will there be an Xvs array in these series?

Dell-JeffS

Hey Virtualhints -- hit action/recent room history to see what we've been talking about

Dell_-_gumanow

we've replaced the Xvs with a more balanced Xs arrays.

hansdeleenheer

can i ask something about San Hq?

Dell-LanceB

so we got just about 15 minutes left ...

khsieh

You should have a picture of a Ps6100xs in the same group as a Ps100e!

Dell_-_gumanow

Xvs was 8 Ssd 100G + 8 15K Hdd.

Dell-JeffS

Hey Andreas!

Dell-LanceB

@khsieh, that would be great, we should do that ...

kculw

i've got a Ps100e with a Ps5000 in my lab

erson

hi all

Dell_-_gumanow

Xs is 17 Hdd 600 10K + 7 Ssd 400gb.

Dell-JeffS

You are in for it now Gary. :)

Dell-LanceB

do you have a Ps100?

Dell_-_gumanow

More spindles with more Iops

Dell_-_gumanow

More Ssd capacity too.

Dell_-_gumanow

what am i in for now?

Dell-LanceB

@hans, what is your questions about San-hq, might have to get some other on the line for it, or you can ask me offline

Dell-JeffS

@erson joined. No more softballs from hans anymore

hansdeleenheer

just a tip for future use: would love to add groups in sites

Dell-JeffS

;0

Dell_-_gumanow

@hans: tell me more about that.

khsieh

I don't see anything about a 6110 lineup. Are those coming later?

Dell_-_gumanow

yes.

hansdeleenheer

well, we designed a managed private cloud for all future projects on dell materials (clapclap please) and off course based on Eql

hansdeleenheer

we'd love to manage all those groups in one Hq

Dell_-_gumanow

::biggrin

Dell_-_gumanow

@hans... got it.

erson

We're going 10gbe, so eagerly awaiting Ps4110 and Ps6110.

Dell-LanceB

@hans we annouce the new version of San-hq, should see more on that from us very soon. Articles, demos and even a chat ... stay tuned ...

Dell_-_gumanow

ubber group maanger

Dell_-_gumanow

@erson: We'll be talking about the 10G plans soon. Haven't announced those yet.

hansdeleenheer

yes, the uber group manager

Dell_-_gumanow

@hans: Have you seen Microsoft Active Directory admin authentication?

hansdeleenheer

yep, love the idea but i'll still use my own user :P

erson

Dell_-_gumanow: Yes, I'm aware of that.

hansdeleenheer

but it is a very good idea for the monitoring guys etc

erson

We're definately going to use the new Ad authentication.

Dell_-_gumanow

Dell has over 100 Groups and Msft Ad is something they are looking at to ease admin authentication.

erson

have you gone into depth about Aplb?

Dell_-_gumanow

What would you like the uber Gm to perform?

khsieh

It would be great if there was finally some policy based management for volumes and volume collections. It has been a major defficiency for many years now Imho.

hansdeleenheer

everything the current Hq does but group several groups under a "site" that i can name to a customer

hansdeleenheer

maybe add firmware updates to it ...but that would be a harder change then first idea

Dell_-_gumanow

now you're talking

erson

Have anything been said about upcoming Ht for Windows? Still slated for release during Q4?

hansdeleenheer

i'd like to update a group and not a member

erson

Any news regarding Smi-s support for Ms Scvmm 2012?

hansdeleenheer

@erson > 2nd that last question have have asked allready tons of times :)

erson

3TB support is how many weeks away?

erson

hansdeleenheer: great

Dell_-_gumanow

checking on the Smi-s addition.

Dell-LanceB

@erson which arrays for 3TB are you looking at

hansdeleenheer

all of them Lance :)

erson

there are just two so

Dell_-_gumanow

Ps6010, Ps6500, Ps6510 3TB support is mid-october

hansdeleenheer

so why ask?

Dell_-_gumanow

Ps6100 and Ps4100 is beginning October

wonder_nerd

I guess if people are putting in their would like to see's I'll add mine. in the Vmware Hit kit i'd like to be able to control who can even add the plugin. I've had scenarios where some users don't need it and others do.

Dell_-_gumanow

we should post a response on the smi-s request.

Dell_-_gumanow

i don't have the answer yet

Dell_-_gumanow

@wonder: I like it.

Dell-LanceB

Wow ... we are running up on the end of the hour, great questions but we need to wrap it up.

erson

I'm a bit suprised that the Eql Architecture white paper about load balancers didn't mention the data chunk size of 15MB and the 2 hour time between tiering "decisions".

Dell_-_gumanow

it's 10 minutes, not 2 hours

hansdeleenheer

@erson: thet is not thet big and not that great period you know

Dell_-_gumanow

double checked the developer yesterday.

hansdeleenheer

woow, that tops the idea

Dell-LanceB

So who wants to get the last question

hansdeleenheer

who's coming to Dell Sf Uk ???

Dell_-_gumanow

hope to get there myself.

erson

Dell_gumanow: Odd, then the people at Dell Nordic region was totally wrong.

Dell-LanceB

@hans I would like to be there, put in a good word for me ...

Dell-LanceB

Thanks everyone for joining today !

hansdeleenheer

C ya all next time! (whats next by the way?)

Dell-JeffS

Thanks everyone

Dell-JeffS

Tuesday at 3:00 Us Central is all about Dellworld

Dell-LanceB

Next week we will be back on our regular schedule on Tue talking about Dell World