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Investor from Albuquerque, NM

Real Estate Investor from Audubon, Pennsylvania

replied over 4 years ago

@Michael Q. - upon re-reading the OP, it sounds like @Albert Cardenas would be using the name "Mr. and Mrs. Smith" on the return address and not his own name. Or maybe I'm mistaken in that. But have you tested with fictitious names in the return address, using a common name that the recipient might believe is a friend?

Investor from Albuquerque, NM

replied over 4 years ago

Originally posted by @Steve Babiak:

@Michael Q. - upon re-reading the OP, it sounds like @Albert Cardenas would be using the name "Mr. and Mrs. Smith" on the return address and not his own name. Or maybe I'm mistaken in that. But have you tested with fictitious names in the return address, using a common name that the recipient might believe is a friend?

Flipper/Rehabber from Bakersfield, CA

Investor from Albuquerque, NM

replied over 4 years ago

BTW, what I'm sending is an envelope that I want them to open. I think the "Mr & Mrs" is not a bad idea because they see it's a husband & wife, which sounds to me like it's more trusting, even if they don't recognize the last name.

Flipper from Greater LA/Orange County area, CA

Since I'm betting your first mail drop is not 20,000 pieces, just send it out. Keep a record of what you did, maybe a sample piece, too.

If you send a "sneaker" piece that misleads people, you will need to be sufficiently compelling in your sales conversion to address any concerns regarding trust and comfort with someone who fooled them with their mail carrier (envelope).

The purpose of the mail piece (letter, postcard, etc.) is to get someone to raise their hand and say, 'I'm interested in learning more' so they call (or write) you. You then need to take it from there and convert the lead to a mutually acceptable offer and close.

Flipper/Rehabber from Bakersfield, CA

Besides open rate here is maybe a better reason not to put a name on an envelope or a personal physical address...

For adults only I posted this before however it is a great reminder of a personas personality flaw.

And to all of the females out there... Not to sound terrifying however please never use your name or personal home address and certainly tell someone where you're going to on appointments and have a safety plan.

I know one Realtor who was raped on a showing appointment and a former mentee was groped on a purchase appointment.

Flipper from Greater LA/Orange County area, CA

replied over 4 years ago

Hey Mike - I occasional "get" to listen to some pretty crude characters, however it think your caller used F*** enough times to convince me of two things and one opportunity:

1) The F word, when used as an adjective, loses its effectiveness and impact when repeatedly used (like very, very and many, many) in the same sentence as both a descriptor and as an end result. Perhaps this lapse in good grammar can be pardoned.

2) His threat, however cannot be pardoned. As a real opportunity detective, a guy like this (geez, I HOPE that's a guy's voice) leaving a message is now considered a terrorist threat and is pretty easy to get prosecuted and incarcerated for 6 months or so. I do fish in murky waters.

I've heard from not one but three (3) different people who were successfully prosecuted for their mis-directed threats and served time.

Investor from Pittsburgh, PA

Account Closed

replied over 4 years ago

Originally posted by @Michael Q.:

And to all of the females out there... Not to sound terrifying however please never use your name or personal home address and certainly tell someone where you're going to on appointments and have a safety plan.

I know one Realtor who was raped on a showing appointment and a former mentee was groped on a purchase appointment.

I agree with you 100%. I know Josh and Brandon encourage using a last name on BP, but that is truly a double edged sword. I know a few women from a message board, unrelated to real estate, that have been stalked because they used their last name online. One woman was approached while shopping with her child. I understand that networking can be extremely valuable in real estate, but the trade off is your privacy.

Real Estate Agent from Las Vegas, Nevada

Besides open rate here is maybe a better reason not to put a name on an envelope or a personal physical address...

For adults only I posted this before however it is a great reminder of a personas personality flaw.

And to all of the females out there... Not to sound terrifying however please never use your name or personal home address and certainly tell someone where you're going to on appointments and have a safety plan.

I know one Realtor who was raped on a showing appointment and a former mentee was groped on a purchase appointment.

I got a UPS mailbox for three months for about $75. It varies by area, but a safe and smart investment.

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