Talk Wisdom's goal is to defend the tenets and values of Biblical Christian faith. We defend our Constitutional Republic and Charters of Freedom, especially when speaking out against destructive social and political issues. As followers of our Savior and Lord, we should boldly stand up for Jesus Christ in our present circumstances. He is our Savior, Lord, and King, and His love needs to be shed abroad in our hearts and in our world – now.

A Christian Voter: “I believe Trump is our rowboat. Except he’s more like a battleship!”

Regular readers here know that I am a NEVER HILLARY voter, but that I also have had several concerns regarding Trump for president. With all of the research I have done and how far the media of mass deception is “in the tank” for HiLIARy, I still feel that he would likely be light-years better than crooked Hillary. Since we only have those two main candidates to choose from in this election, being a “hold your nose and vote for Trump” voter is far better (IMHO) than voting for corrupt, untrustworthy, and serial liar Hillary. The more I read about her and her cohorts in crime, the more I realize that people who are voting for her are most likely one of the following types of voters.

Choose to ignore the evil, corruption, and lying that she has been involved in over the past 8 Obummer years, and during this election season. Do the research and see that she is involved in over 30 years of corruption!

Know about one or both of the above, and simply just do not care.

Are spiritually blinded and therefore complicit in such blatant corruption.

[Add your own judgment of the situation!]

She should be in JAIL!!! NOT running for president!

My conversations with Christian friends and relatives have informed me that many will vote for Trump, while just a few may vote third-party. Here in blue Dem California, it most likely wouldn’t matter how Christian conservatives vote, anyway. This state hasn’t [electorally] voted for a Republican presidential nominee since Ronald Reagan in the ’80s! I highly doubt that CA would collectively, and/or electorally, bring a state victory for Trump in the presidential election.

[On a side note, I watched a recorded program on Reagan’s presidency last night which reminded me that he won 48 states against Walter Mondale with a whopping 525 – 33 electoral vote count!]

Anyway, with that said, I present the following argument as to why HiLIARy should be summarily rejected for the presidency, and why this particular Christian voter and writer [NOTE: no name was given on the essay] encourages others to vote for Trump.

A CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE ON THE ELECTION

This may be the best and most honest political promotion statement you will ever read. It decidedly does not brush objections aside. You hate Hillary? READ it. You hate Trump? READ it. You think there’s no choice? READ it. And, read it with your grown-up hat on. We’ve all been dealt huge responsibility with this election. The first step toward accepting responsibility is accepting it, and the first step toward accepting it is recognizing it. READ THIS. Read every single word. It’ll take you about three minutes.
=============================Are you sickened and despondent with the current campaign and upcoming presidential election?

I consider myself a conservative and do truly believe our country is at a political/economic/moral/social crossroads. I need to let you know I could/would never vote for Hillary Clinton to lead this country. To me, she represents everything that is wrong with our current political structure. On the flip side, I look and listen to Donald Trump and I cringe at every rude, insulting comment he makes. If you find yourself in a similar state of mind, please read the following article:

A Message For Christians About Donald Trump

Here’s a famous joke about God and how he talks to us. “A deeply faithful Christian man is stuck on roof at home with massive flooding up to the 2nd floor. Rowboat comes. He says “No, I’m waiting for God. I prayed and I know he’s coming.” Second Rowboat arrives. “No, I’m waiting for God.” 3rd Rowboat. “No, I’m waiting for God.”

Water rises. The man drowns. Now he’s meeting God in heaven. The religious man says, “Where were you God? I prayed. I was faithful. I asked you to save me. Why would you abandon me?”

God says, “Hey dummy, I sent you 3 rowboats. Are you blind?” Did you ever consider Trump is our rowboat?

Maybe God is trying to tell us something important–that now is not the time for a “nice Christian guy” or a “gentleman” or a typical Republican powder puff. Maybe now is the time for a natural-born killer, a ruthless fighter, a warrior. Because right about now we need a miracle, or America is finished. Maybe the rules of gentlemen don’t apply here. Maybe a gentleman and “all-around nice Christian” would lead us to slaughter.

Or do you want another Mitt Romney, Bob Dole, John McCain, Gerald Ford or Paul Ryan? Did any of them win? Did they lead the GOP to “the promised land?” Did they change the direction of America? No, because if you don’t win, you have no say.

Paul Ryan couldn’t even deliver his own state, Wisconsin! And as leader of the House, Paul Ryan rolls over to Obama like my dog rolls over for a scrap of food, or a steak bone. Nice, but obedient. I mean Paul Ryan…not my dog. My dog is actually a pretty good defender and loyal.

Maybe God is knocking on your door loudly, but you’re not listening. Maybe God understands we need a “war leader” at this moment in time. Maybe God understands if we don’t win this election, America is dead. It’s over. The greatest nation in world history will be gone. Finished. Kaput. Adios.

And with one last breath, maybe what we need to save us at the last second, is someone different. Someone you haven’t ever experienced before– because you weren’t raised in rough and tumble New York where nothing good gets accomplished unless you’re combative, aggressive, outrageous, on offense at all times, and maybe just a tad arrogant too.

Someone with a personality you’ve never seen on stage at your church. Maybe, just maybe, being a nice gentlemanly Christian would not beat Hillary and her billion dollars, and her best friends in the media who will unleash the dogs of hell upon the GOP nominee.

I guess you think God is only nice and gentlemanly. Really? Then you’ve missed the whole point of the Bible. When necessary, God is a pretty tough guy. When necessary, God strikes with pain, death and destruction. When necessary, God inflicts vengeance.

Maybe you think God couldn’t possibly be associated with someone like Trump. Trump is too vicious, rude and crude. When we won WWII, was God “nice?” Were we gentlemanly when defeating Hitler? Were we gentlemanly when firebombing Germany? Were we gentlemanly when dropping atomic bombs on Japan? Is God ever “nice” on the battlefield? Or does he send us vicious SOB’s like General George S. Patton so the good guys can defeat evil?

It’s pretty clear to me God sends unique people to be “war leaders.” That’s a different role than a pastor or church leader. God understands that.

And maybe it’s time to re-define “nice.” Maybe Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan aren’t nice at all–because they led us to defeat. And losing again would mean the end of America. And God can’t allow that. Maybe Romney and Ryan mean well, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Or maybe they’re just jealous they had their chance and blew it. Maybe they’d rather help elect Hillary than allow a Trump victory that would make them look weak, feckless and incompetent.

“Even the youths shall faint and be weary, And the young men shall utterly fall, But those who wait on the Lord Shall renew their strength; They shall mount up with wings like eagles, They shall run and not be weary, They shall walk and not faint.” (Isiah 40:30-31)

God is about miracles. We don’t need a “nice guy” or a “gentleman” right now. It’s the 4th quarter and we’re losing 14-0. We need a miracle.

So let me repeat my message to Christians: “YOU’RE MISSING THE BOAT.”

I believe Trump is our miracle. I believe Trump is our rowboat. Except he’s more like a battleship!

No one is saying Trump is perfect. No one is saying Trump is a perfect conservative. But he is a patriot. He is a warrior. He is a capitalist. He is the right man, at the right time. Yes, he’s a bit rude and crude and offensive. But that may make him the perfect warrior to save America, American exceptionalism, capitalism and Judeo-Christian values. The choice should be easy for Christians. It’s Trump…or it’s the end of the American dream.

I have told you the differences between Catholic belief and Biblical Christian belief. Why do you continue to ask idiotic questions?

Yes. Both Catholics and Christians believe in Christ. That is a given that no one disputes. The problem is that Catholics believe that tradition is equal to biblical authority.

[Note: For the sake of readers who want a brief synopsis of the differences, I share the following:]

Regarding authority: Catholics claim that Scripture and “Sacred Tradition” are equal in authority, Protestants say the Bible is the sole guide for faith and practice (see 2 Tim. 3:16,17; 1 John 5:13). Rome says the magisterium (teaching authority of the Roman Catholic Church) has been entrusted to interpret the Bible for Catholics, who are not to interpret it for themselves. Protestants say that individual Christians can trust the Holy Spirit for guidance as they read and interpret the Bible for themselves (see John 5:39; 14:26). Catholicism teaches that Peter was the first pope, and that through apostolic succession other popes have succeeded him, each serving as “vicar of Christ”; Protestants insist the apostles had equal authority and there was no “pope,” a word not found in the New Testament (see Matt. 18:18; John 20:23). Catholics teach that the pope is infallible when he speaks “ex cathedra” (lit. “from the chair” or with authority) on matters of faith and morals; Protestants reply that no human being is infallible, and only Christ is head of the Church (see Eph. 1:22; Col. 1:18).

Regarding salvation:Catholics claim that salvation is secured by faith in Christ plus good works and grace conferred through the seven sacraments of the Church; Protestants reply that salvation is secured through sola fide (faith alone) in Jesus Christ’s atoning sacrifice on the cross (see Rom. 3:24; Eph. 2:8,9). Catholics blend justification and sanctification into one process as the believer must work to merit eternal life; Protestants believe God justifies the believer by declaring him or her righteous, and that sanctification is a lifelong process of becoming holy as God works within (see John 17:15-19; Phil. 2:12, 13). Catholics believe they cannot pay for all their sins in this life, and at death they go to purgatory for an undetermined time to be made totally fit for heaven; Protestants, believing they are justified by faith in Christ and nothing else, trust that they will go straight to heaven where sanctification is completed in Christ’s presence (see 2 Cor. 5:6-10; 1 John 2:28-3:2.)

There are other major differences as well as what is written above. The veneration of Mary as being “co-mediator” rather that “blessed among women” as the mother of Jesus is another difference. Also, the Catholic Church labels Mary as “ever virgin.” She was a virgin when she conceived Jesus, however, the Bible tells us that she had other children with Joseph.

There is no such thing as purgatory. There are only two destinations recorded in the Bible. Heaven or hell. What one decides about Jesus Christ determines where their eternal soul will end up.

The good news is that Protestants and Catholics continue to dialogue. I’m glad about this because it is crucial to “get it right” regarding what it means to be saved and justified before God.

I keep asking idiotic questions because you keep making idiotic assertions, and I want you to clarify them. Like this one. I never asked about the differences between Catholic belief and “Biblical Christian” belief. I asked you something much simpler. Anyone who claims to believe in Christ and follow his teachings is a considered to be a Christian, no matter their denomination or sect. You’ve acknowledged this.
Everything else is a matter of doctrine, not core beliefs. To say “Catholics and Christians” is to imply they’re not really Christians at all.

I can see where salvation would be a point of contention, especially as the Bible is self-contradictory about it. But that’s not what I asked about.

CJW: The veneration of Mary as being “co-mediator” rather that “blessed among women” as the mother of Jesus is another difference.
A virgin becomes the mother of the god who created her. Yeah, that sounds pretty wacky. But it’s no more so than other beliefs I’ve heard of.

There is no such thing as purgatory. There are only two destinations recorded in the Bible. Heaven or hell. What one decides about Jesus Christ determines where their eternal soul will end up.
I agree about purgatory, and I also contend that heaven and hell fall into that ‘no such thing’ category. There is
a third destination recorded in the bible: Sheol, which is none of the above places, but has elements of them.

Since you’re in an answering mood today, I’ll ask once again: why do you claim that God is not a monarch?

CJW, quoting Freedom Is Just Another Word: “I believe Trump is our miracle. I believe Trump is our rowboat. Except he’s more like a battleship!”

Yeah? Which battleship? What shall we compare The Donald to?

Bismarck (Germany): Fought exactly one battle in her life, sinking a British battlecruiser and damaging another battleship. The Royal Navy dropped everything to find her. A single plane from a RN carrier landed the blow that doomed her, damaging the rudder so she couldn’t steer. The British ships then surrounded and sank her. As a propaganda weapon she was fine; as an actual weapon, not so much. Overall influence: Limited

Tirpitz (Germany): Sister ship of Bismarck. Damaged in battle and forced to hide on the Norwegian coast. Caused the Royal Navy to spend time and effort tracking her, but except for one sortie, never went to sea again after 1941. When finally found, was forced to remain where she was by constant bombing, which damaged her even more. Toward the war’s end, one of those attacks finally sank her. Overall influence: Minimal

Yamato (Japan): Largest guns ever put on a battleship. Unfortunately, Japan was developing the very tactics that made her obsolete even as she was being finished. Pearl Harbor was hit by carrier-based attacks, carrier planes destroyed four Japanese capital ships at Midway, and carriers planes sank the Yamato. In her short life, she never went toe-to-toe against another battleship. Overall influence: Limited

Montana (United States): Designed to engage Yamato-class battleships, but put on hold after the battles of Coral Sea and Midway, when carriers proved to provide equal firepower, and superior versatility. A carrier’s major components—planes–were also easier and quicker to replace. Construction canceled in 1943; never completed. Overall influence: Negligible

Considering how he’s conducted his campaign (to say nothing of how he’s conducted himself), the simile is laughable. He’s gonna build a wall to keep undesirable brown people out. He’s gonna ban Muslims from entering the country…which means, one assumes, the Saudi ambassador. He’s calling for his red shirts to ‘monitor’ voting in ‘certain areas’ so there won’t be any voter fraud, but insists that it will be proof of that fraud if he loses. He’s also going to sue all the women who stepped out to accuse him of having pawed them. AFAIK, sitting presidents aren’t allowed to do that. Oh, and he’ll have Hillary put in jail. No investigation, no benefit of trial by jury, just an executive decree. This is not a conservative, not a republican, and certainly not a lover of freedom—just a dictator-in-waiting.
He’s bringing a battleship to a carrier fight. Hope he still has a rowboat afterwards.

You conservatives had 17 other candidates to pick from. YOU chose Trump; now deal with it.

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