Somalia: Islamic pirates rape, and impregnate, Canadian captive

Don’t these kidnappers know that taking captives for ransom is totally unislamic? Why don’t we sent Sherifa Zuhur to straighten these misguided Muslims out and put them on the right track?

Somali pirates currently hold 700 hostages… (seems to be the only industry there is..)

Â CBS-tart Katie Couric just disabused her listeners that Somali pirates only resort to piracy for “lack of other economic opportunities”- how can we get her to go to Somalia to give us a first hand report and a piece of the action?

Desperately missing home

She was trying to find refuge in a mosque? Â She must be a red hot moonbat. Â Â Next thing you know she marries her rapist and keeps the ransom…

Her kidnappers demand 2.5 million as ransom. Lets make a deal: Instead of returning the Somali-Canadian terroristÂ just arrestedÂ back to Canada, Somalia can keep him and return in his stead these captive Canadians to Canada. Something of an even swap.

Canada returns the “Hawiye kidnap Canadian journalist is pregnant,” fromÂ TFSF, April 8 (thanks to JW):

MOGADISHU –Amanda Lindhout, a Canadian journalist who was abducted by habar-gidir .. hawiye al-shabaab wing gunmen in the Somali capital Mogadishu about eight months agoÂ is reportedly pregnant after she was apparently raped by her abductors.Â

Sources say the Canadian journalist Amanda and an Australian photojournalist are being held by the militia in the northeastern neighbourhood of Suqa Holaha habar-girir hawye Terrorist neighborhood in Mogadishu. The abductors have demanded $2.5 million of ransom from the two journalists to release.

Amanda and the Australian photojournalist once escaped from a house in Suqa Holaha neighnourhood and entered a mosque near by, but they were recaptured again. militia who kidnapped the journalists claims they are al-shabab Terrorist Hawiye wing . Some reports suggest that one the abductorsÂ made Amanda as his wife…

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From popular Islamic websitesÂ today:Â

“Islam ensured that the slave girl’s duties were not restricted merely to domestic chores but also gave her master permission to copulate with her. This concession created an atmosphere of love and harmony between the slave girl and her master. Islam thereby raised the status of the war captive-maidens close to that of wives. It was a psychological cure to her grief-stricken heart, being deprived of her family and thrown into the hands of a strange society.” (1)Â http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=5482Â

A similar popular website, Islam Q & A, reviews several Islamic scholarly opinions and concludes:Â

“The Book of Allaah indicates that the sexual relationships that are permitted are only of two types, either marriage or those (women slaves) whom one’s right hand possesses.Â
Al-Umm, 5/43.Â

(Sahih Muslim) “Chapter 29: IT IS PERMISSIBLE TO HAVE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH A CAPTIVE WOMAN AFTER SHE IS PURIFIED (OF MENSES OR DELIVERY) IN CASE SHE HAS A HUSBAND, HER MARRIAGE IS ABROGATED AFTER SHE BECOMES CAPTIVE”Â

Sahih Muslim, Book 8, Number 3432 (also 3433, 3434):Â
Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that: “And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)” (i. e. they were lawful for them when their ‘Idda period came to an end).Â

Sunan Abu Dawud, Volume 2, Number 2150:Â
“Abu Said al-Khudri said: “The apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Quranic verse, “And all married women (are forbidden) unto your save those (captives) whom your right hand possesses”. That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period.””Â

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 34, Number 432:Â
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:Â
that while he was sitting with Allah’s Apostle he said, “O Allah’s Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?” The Prophet said, “Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.Â

Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3371 (3371-3388):Â
Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa’id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): O Abu Sa’id, did you hear Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-‘azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi’l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing ‘azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah’s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.Â

Malik’s Muwatta, Book 29, Number 29.32.95:Â
Yahya related to me from Malik from Rabia ibn Abi Abd ar-Rahman from Muhammad ibn Yahya ibn Habban that Ibn Muhayriz said, “I went into the mosque and saw Abu Said al-Khudri and so I sat by him and asked him about coitus interruptus. Abu Said al-Khudri said, ‘We went out with the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, on the expedition to the Banu al-Mustaliq. We took some Arabs prisoner, and we desired the women as celibacy was hard for us. We wanted the ransom, so we wanted to practise coitus interruptus. We said, ‘Shall we practise coitus interruptus while the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, is among us before we ask him?’ We asked him about that and he said, ‘You don’t have to not do it. There is no self which is to come into existence up to the Day of Rising but that it will come into existence.’ “Â

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 637:Â
Narrated Buraida: “The Prophet sent ‘Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (of the booty) and I hated Ali, and ‘Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave-girl from the Khumus). I said to Khalid, “Don’t you see this (i.e. Ali)?” When we reached the Prophet I mentioned that to him. He said, “O Buraida! Do you hate Ali?” I said, “Yes.” He said, “Do you hate him, for he deserves more than that from the Khumus.””

Canadians who are reading this story should send this headline and link around widely to news media outlets, politicians, etc. Rape of non-Muslim female captives should be shown as yet another one of those atrocious policies of Islamic law that has outraged even the media and politicians in Canada over the past week.Â

Islam permits rape and forced impregnation of non-Muslim female captives. According to the sahih Hadith of Bukhari and Muslim, when Muslims were raping female captives, they asked Muhammad whether or not they should also perform coitus interruptus, and he is reported to have said either that it doesn’t matter or that he preferred they didn’t do coitus interruptus. That is, he preferred that they not do it, because it is Allah’s will whether or not a baby would be born, and that they “could not turn it away.” (Muhammad’s preferred option of not using coitus interruptus would obviously lead to forced impregnation, or as Muhammad claimed, impregnation by Allah’s will. The Quran states that Allah controls birth rates, women’s wombs, and whether or not a baby will be conceived and born). Some of the Muslims wanted to practice coitus interruptus because they wanted to sell the women they had captured, and pregnant women captives (as per Islamic law) could not be sold until after the baby had been born.Â

The basis for rape of non-Muslim female captives comes from the Quran (23:5-6, 33:50-52, 4:24, 70:29-30; also see mainstream commentaries by Ibn Kathir, Al-Jalalayn, Ibn Abbas, et al.), the Hadith, the Sira, Muhammad’s example conduct (see Quran 33:21) and the conduct of the male Companions (e.g., Khalid bin Walid, Ali, et al.), and mainstream Islamic law. Muslim males have been raping non-Muslim female captives with the approval of Islamic doctrine for the past approximately 1400 years, and this practice continues throughout the world today, wherever Muslim populations come into contact with non-Muslim populations.Â

From Tabari, and example of rape and forced impregnation:Â

(Tabari IX:25): “By Allah, I did not come to Fight for nothing. I wanted a victory over Ta’if so that I might obtain a slave girl from them and make her pregnant.”

OK You arseholes in government – 2 western women have been kidnapped, raped and god know what elsed by these somali muslim thugs. I WANT THESE MUSLIM THUGS TERMINATED – AND WE CAN START WITH THE SCUM YOU, KRUDD, HAVE BEEN LETTING ONTO OUR SHORES.

I WANT THESE TWO WOMEN HOME NOW – AND I WANT THESE SOMALI PIG MUSLIMS AS WELL

YUSUF, YOU RANTING MUSLIM TWAT – GOT A SMART COMMENT OR TWO FOR THESE TWO WOMEN WHO ARE BEING HELD BY YOUR MUSLIM SCUM AGAINST THEIR WILL – SPEAL UP FWIT!!!

With the recent news of Somali Pirates and news stories like this and I am sure countless others, what is Canada and other countries going to do about Somalia?
This is a waring, backwards and lawless country running rampant with no rules, concern or care for other people in the world.
It doesn’t matter what a small minority think in the world, the rest of the world would be happy to know that we went in there and cleaned up this abomination of a country and set it on a path of recovery. It is disgusting what is happening here.

well, its a different culture and according to the white house, we should respect the diffrerences even if its illegal over here. besided, in rome, do what the romans do. and islam is the world’s future religion, so get use to it.

This is absolute bullshit. all of these so called hadiths have been fabricated.
In Islam, if a man commits rape he has to be killed. it might sound harsh to you, but what if your mother or sister or daughter got rape, what punishment would you prescribe to the rapist? So these Somali pirates are NOT MUSLIM they are a bunch of thugs trying to give Islam a bad name.
If you want to know the real Islam go to the base of the religion, the Quran (word of God), please don’t listen to all the propaganda that surrounds the religion, because that’s what they want. You can sit and watch the box in front of you and be force fed, or you can go and research for your self

Pash, all those hadiths are true, a muslim has explicit permission in the quran to virtually do -ANYTHING- to a non-muslim and it is ok.

an important side note: A non-muslim may not testify against a muslim in court, so if a non-muslim wife is raped and her non-muslim husband or her non-muslim mother sees it, he can not testify. Also, only men can testify.

Hmmmm! Run to a mosque to escape rape! Lets remember that Muslims in many countries also rape little boys, the neighbors goat, and captive male soldiers. It’s one of the cultures today which still accepts slavery as being OK. Say what you will about wacko fringe Cristian groups, no where is sexual abuse of women, men, little boys, barnyard animals so accepted.
Of course, we’re not allowed to say any of the above.

I LOVE how so many “kindly” Muslims claim their “peaceful” religion is being hijacked by radicals. We are then encouraged to “read the Koran for yourself!”, knowing that 99.9% of their listeners will never bother. Well, I HAVE read the Koran–it is filled with hatred and violence toward any non-Muslim person. READ IT!!

We can all take comfort that Islam is like Catholicism…most people ignore the rules, do what they please, and are Islamic/Catholic in name only. Actually, their violent, hateful religion has been hijacked by lazy Muslims. Pray the silent majority don’t acquire enough zeal to start putting Islam into practice.

Islam is the religion of hijackers, the so-called ‘radicals’ live according to their religion.

I never bought into this fantasy that there are ‘moderates’ and others, less moderates. The irony is that both these absurdities are invented by Westerners who somehow wish to protect Islam from scrutiny, who have vested interests in the ‘Islamic world’, or whatever.

A clear thinking, enlightened European has a duty to study the texts and the tenets himself, before he chews the cud of the media cows.

Backwards society and religion. Devout followers are sub-humans and barely classify as that. Read the insane passages above and try to rationalize differently. Rodents that act as a plague are removed…as it should be with these pests, by Allah.

No, the Quran does not say that it is permissible to rape a slave girl if her master wishes to.

However, the question refers to some other points that need more codifications as follows:
â€¢The Quran prohibits raping girls or women (slaves or not) or Muslims or non-Muslims.
â€¢In the Arabian areas, girls used to reach puberty at a relatively young age, usually around 9 years old. This is something that is not currently usual.
â€¢Islam, per Quran revelation to prophet Muhammad, started by God revelation of Quran to prophet Muhammad from year 610 AD through year 632 AD. At that time, slavery was a common practice in the Arabian areas as well as all over the world, especially the Roman and Persian areas.
â€¢It was usual for men to marry girls either older than themselves or much younger, with no limit regarding age difference (even a 30- or 40-year difference).
â€¢Islam, per the Quran and prophet Muhammad’s teachings, set measures to limit the spread of slavery and to demolish it gradually. Examples of these measures are:
â—¦persuading Muslims freeing slaves as charity to get closer to Allah (“God,” in English) mercy and blessings.
â—¦setting freeing a slave as a penalty to be forgiven, per Allah’s mercy, from a committed sin.

Does the Koran permit rape?
Yes. Here’s the verse:
“And all married women are forbidden unto you EXCEPT those captives whom
your right hand possesses. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you
are all beyond those mentioned, so that you seek them with your wealth in
honest wedlock, not debauchery…” (4:24)http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0

“This is a satirical website. None of what you read here has anything to do with Islam, because Islam is a Religion of Peace. Everybody knows that good Muslims never do the things they do, (because Allah does it for them, Quran 8:12) and we know that only our misperceptions, ignorance and stereotyping of Islam makes Muslims chop off heads, kill and rape women and children, bomb subways, buses, nightclubs and fly jets into buildings. ”
Your disclaimer means nothing, kaffir. You insult Islam and Allaah’s Messenger (PBUH), you become subject of fatwa.
Death To The Infidels!
That the thing you say is true is no defense, kaffir. You say truth in a way that gives infidels excuse to blaspheme Allaah and his Messenger (PBUH).
Infidel, You Must Die!

“Rape” is taking something that doesn’t belong to you.
Arabs/Muslims law considers captured or purchased slaves one’s property; therefore within their way of thinking it’s impossible to rape one’s own slave unless she is promised to a free man to be his wife or concubine. Like if he has already made down payment for her.

“A non-muslim may not testify against a muslim in court, so if a non-muslim wife is raped and her non-muslim husband or her non-muslim mother sees it, he can not testify. Also, only men can testify.”
A Muslim woman who is raped and reports it is arrested and jailed for fornication (illegal sex) as she has to admit participation in illegal sex to make the report. If she cannot prove (get the prosecutor to prove) that she was forced, she is then prosecuted for illegal sexual conduct.
To prove rape of a Muslim woman requires four adult Muslim men of impeccable character who were not themselves involved in the rape actually witnessing the accused rapist with his penis in the woman’s vagina. If they cannot see the accused rapist’s penis and that it is inside the woman’s vagina, such as if his clothing obscures their view, rape cannot be proven.
That her confession of illegal sexual conduct (reporting the rape) proves that she was involved in illegal sexual conduct but does not prove that the man who was caught on top of her with her clothing pulled out of the way was actually penetrating her vagina with his penis is total nonsense by our reasoning but perfectly reasonable in their view.
And to defend himself if it was proven absolutely that he did have sexual intercourse with her (1 out of a million cases) all he has to do to defend himself is to claim that she invited him to have sex with her and that he did not know that she was married. After all, she could be his next door neighbor, and he knew she was married, but for all he knew her husband had divorced her ten minutes earlier.
Women in Islam are lower than beasts. About the only thing they have going for them is that they are not halal – clean animals for eating. Their treatment is entirely dependent on how the men they are married to or live with (daughters & fathers/brothers/uncles/grandfathers, slave women & masters) treat them. If they are decent men and not the monsters they are allowed to be by Islamic law, the women of their households are pretty well off. If not, tough Ø§Ù„Ø¨Ø±Ø§Ø².
The only female human who gets to be in Muslim heaven is Maryam (Mary), mother of Jesus. The houris are sort of demi-angels, not humans descended from Adam and Eve, created for faithful Muslim men’s pleasures in the Muslim paradise.
Wonder if there will be goats in the Muslim paradise?

This is too hot. I love hearing about women getting raped up and impregnated. Do you think the had a moment of introspection and asked herself how her actions led her to getting haji seed shooting in her guts as she laid in bed?

“â€œThis is a satirical website. None of what you read here has anything to do with Islam, because Islam is a Religion of Peace. Everybody knows that good Muslims never do the things they do, (because Allah does it for them, Quran 8:12) and we know that only our misperceptions, ignorance and stereotyping of Islam makes Muslims chop off heads, kill and rape women and children, bomb subways, buses, nightclubs and fly jets into buildings. â€
Your disclaimer means nothing, kaffir. You insult Islam and Allaahâ€™s Messenger (PBUH), you become subject of fatwa.
Death To The Infidels!
That the thing you say is true is no defense, kaffir. You say truth in a way that gives infidels excuse to blaspheme Allaah and his Messenger (PBUH).
Infidel, You Must Die!”