vodean wrote:not true at all, considering my vote isnt even on gillipig. im not believing gilli, but dont want him lynched today. what you guys have been saying about wanting to test the trackers, i have said all along.

.... You specifically said

vodean wrote:i think we might want to kill him to be sure...

I don't see any way to interperate that as not wanting him lynched

Here is a lie. Notice how he tries to follow public town opinions with a bit of "historical revisionism".

vodean wrote:so what you are saying is that the case against me is totally flawed, and based on misleading lies, but it is still worthy of votes?could someone please present the actual case against me? if you do, and i do not respond to your concerns adequately, i am happy to claim. beware, however, that i am working all weekend and will be minimally active.

No, I am calling you a liar, comprende?

Well i think thats enough for me to unvotevote vodean Not like im trying to BW right now, but the case is rather convincing. Still though speisr IGMEOY.

Sorry i'm going to unvote until i can get a VC from LoVo. .. don't want to accidentally hammer b4 he gets to claim.

aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.

betiko wrote:crazy and gillipig, you guys have claimed tracker; can you please confirm you are both town trackers?

This is what I said:

Gillipig wrote:I am holding back on some things I know and the exact nature of my role. But it's in towns best interest for me to keep doing so.I don't mind looking scummy to town. After all Ra's al Ghul is not the nicest of characters, but he is sided with town.I will reveal more about my role tomorrow, but I ask of you to let us take that tomorrow and not now.

Vodean your grand speech was none existant lol. If you're town you should note to defend yourself more actively next time. I voted you to make you explain yourself, you haven't, so my vote stays on you.

AoG for President of the World!!I promise he will put George W. Bush to shame!

rishaed wrote:Thoughts on hammering? As far as I'm concerned policy is Lynch all Liars, however any other factors that I should really take into consideration at L-1?

Meh. Not sure. I wont be on (college friday night ) so I had to make sure to get it down in the next few hours. If you can wait, perhaps you should, but if you have similar plans as mine for tonight don't leave without placing your vote/opinion

rishaed wrote:Thoughts on hammering? As far as I'm concerned policy is Lynch all Liars, however any other factors that I should really take into consideration at L-1?

Lynching him before he claims would be undesirable. Even if it is too late for him to actually avoid being lynched at this point, he might have information that could be a value. If he is town and took a night action last night then that action could possibly be important at some point in the game. It would be a shame for him to be killed before he can tell us everything. Right now we have over 19 hours until the deadline. We shouldn't rush this. If hasn't said whatever he might need to in 12 hours or so when I am done for the day I will finish him then. I ask that nobody kill him before he get's a chance to to claim before that time. Should he get a a chance to say whatever before then, then I don't object to someone lynching him immediately after he says that.

Vodean, if you are reading this while you are still alive, and if you are town, you need to claim anything that might be of some value to us at some point. Due this immediately.

rishaed wrote:Thoughts on hammering? As far as I'm concerned policy is Lynch all Liars, however any other factors that I should really take into consideration at L-1?

Lynching him before he claims would be undesirable. Even if it is too late for him to actually avoid being lynched at this point, he might have information that could be a value. If he is town and took a night action last night then that action could possibly be important at some point in the game. It would be a shame for him to be killed before he can tell us everything. Right now we have over 19 hours until the deadline. We shouldn't rush this. If hasn't said whatever he might need to in 12 hours or so when I am done for the day I will finish him then. I ask that nobody kill him before he get's a chance to to claim before that time. Should he get a a chance to say whatever before then, then I don't object to someone lynching him immediately after he says that.

Vodean, if you are reading this while you are still alive, and if you are town, you need to claim anything that might be of some value to us at some point. Due this immediately.

Woops. . . looks like I FP'd you without realizing it >.< and realizing that I was 1/3 nonvoters I got hasty and hammer'd sry spiesr.

aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.

It is understandable rishaed, if he wanted to post a defense, he had a few days to do so. It looked like he was stalling for time anyways. It would have been nice to get a claim from him, but we cant reverse it at this point.

Not even sure this game has vts. kind of surprised the lynch already happened though I prefer that it did happen to vodean over anyone else considering the evidence. this is why traditional play states we try to stop at l-2

Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.

"Are you a tracker?"That seamed to be the theme of the criminals day. Did they simply just not trust each other at all. The criminal scum and masterminds of Gotham city throughout the years were struggling to work together. A handful finally stepped up and presented a case on Vodean. 'He is working for bats they shouted' I saw batman leave him alive last night when they went to attack. He has to be one of them. Not even waiting for a proper response the criminals rallied and decided it was time for Vodean to be exposed.

The batmans most trusted person in the world.....Vodean - Alfred (Mafia roleblocker) has been lynched.