I also love the way he was portrayed in the movie, it was near perfect.

September 18, 2010, 10:45am

eternia23

such a tough call between filmation skelly and movie skelly. but i gave a slight edge to the movie version because he did things that i ALWAYS wanted to see skeletor do - like taking over grayskull and transforming himself with the power sword.

September 18, 2010, 11:10am

Benedict Judas Hel

Filmation is the one I'm most familiar with...

September 18, 2010, 11:13am

MegaGearMax

MYP. He didn't take no crap from his Evil Warriors (except Evil-Lyn, but not at Filmation levels) and could give He-Man a fight on a consistent basis.

September 18, 2010, 08:45pm

kylun flac

MYP! gave Skeletor an origin. hes a master sorcerer & a great swordsman. hes is truly evil. love his evil laugh.

September 19, 2010, 11:58am

Battle_Brak

87 Movie Skeletor is by far the best. He was absolutely menacing. In contrast it's hard to take any of the others seriously.

September 19, 2010, 01:55pm

Mr. Shokoti

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Originally Posted by MegaGearMax

He didn't take no crap from his Evil Warriors (except Evil-Lyn, but not at Filmation levels) and could give He-Man a fight on a consistent basis.

Sounds like you're talking about the movie Skeletor.:hmwink:

September 19, 2010, 11:08pm

Blue

Filmation put Skeletor on the map! LOVE his evil laugh! Alan O was the only real Skeletor. The rest are imitations!

FYI

After Filmation, I'd go with the movie followed by MYP.

September 20, 2010, 12:51am

Mr. Shokoti

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Originally Posted by Blue

Filmation put Skeletor on the map! LOVE his evil laugh! Alan O was the only real Skeletor. The rest are imitations!

FYI

After Filmation, I'd go with the movie followed by MYP.

You speak the truth.:hmwink: I'd actually put NA Skeletor's voice over MYP's but I just can't get over his bug eyed design.:sktung:

September 20, 2010, 01:07am

Count Marzo

I agree.

1) Filmation
2) Movie
3) MYP

September 20, 2010, 02:17am

Jean

Filmation all the way. That's THE Skeletor for me. All other incarnations are pale imitations of ol' bonehead.

September 20, 2010, 09:58am

Neal1972

MYP by a smidge over Filmation, the reason being, as MGM said, he could give He-Man a hard fight.
(Although I think Filmation version had a wider range of abilities and was also a master inventor.)
Both are much better than the movie version, imo.

Hey...both Skeletors didn't suffer fools without penalty. This is what would have happened to the Filmation villains if they mocked Skeletor to his face.

September 20, 2010, 09:26pm

Mr. Shokoti

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Originally Posted by MegaGearMax

Hey...both Skeletors didn't suffer fools without penalty. This is what would have happened to the Filmation villains if they mocked Skeletor to his face.

Did any of those villains in that picture die during the show? MYP was a poser. He was no more ruthless than the Filmation Skeletor. He pretended to be but it was all show. MYP was a kid wearing a leather jacket & playing "tough" on the school playground. He looked tougher & sounded tougher but when it came time to fight, he was just "wimpy" as the kids who didn't like to fight. He was also a lot less likable than they were as well.

September 20, 2010, 09:59pm

MegaGearMax

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Originally Posted by Mr. Shokoti

Did any of those villains in that picture die during the show? MYP was a poser. He was no more ruthless than the Filmation Skeletor. He pretended to be but it was all show. MYP was a kid wearing a leather jacket & playing "tough" on the school playground. He looked tougher & sounded tougher but when it came time to fight, he was just "wimpy" as the kids who didn't like to fight. He was also a lot less likable than they were as well.

Skeletor was better off in MYP. Better he rule through fear and intimidation with constant punishment for failure than killing his help off (movie Skeletor) or his help walking all over him (Filmation Skeletor). And let's not forget that MYP Skeletor could give He-Man a consistent decent fight. Not to mention sword fighting He-Man AND Randor at the same time.

Besides, I thought you haven't seen MYP except for the pilot?

September 20, 2010, 11:16pm

Blue

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Originally Posted by MegaGearMax

Skeletor was better off in MYP. Better he rule through fear and intimidation with constant punishment for failure than killing his help off (movie Skeletor) or his help walking all over him (Filmation Skeletor). And let's not forget that MYP Skeletor could give He-Man a consistent decent fight. Not to mention sword fighting He-Man AND Randor at the same time.

Besides, I thought you haven't seen MYP except for the pilot?

Mega, when did Skeletor's help "walk all over him?" Sure there was the occasional rebellion just like in MYP, but Skeletor always whipped them all soundly and sent them to bed. :hmlol:

Now in MYP when Skeletor forgave Evil-Lyn for nearly getting him killed by King Hiss, that was completely out of character. It's an example of Skeletor not being any harder/more menacing than his Filmation version.

Also, King Hiss defeated the more "menacing" MYP version of Skeletor in less than 30 seconds. I think both the MYP and Filmation Skeletors had their moments of wimpiness.

I prefer Filmation Skeletor because he knew when to be scary and when to be funny. MYP was more flat, but that's just my humble opinion. :hmgrin:

September 21, 2010, 12:21am

skeletom

I'm all about the MYP Skeletor! That's my fav!

Filmation Skeletor is great when I want a good chuckle, though! :skgrin:

September 21, 2010, 01:00am

Blue

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Originally Posted by skeletom

Filmation Skeletor is great when I want a good chuckle, though! :skgrin:

I love the quote in your signature! "I don't want to feel good. I want to feel EVIL!"

September 21, 2010, 01:30am

Mr. Shokoti

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Originally Posted by MegaGearMax

Skeletor was better off in MYP. Better he rule through fear and intimidation with constant punishment for failure than killing his help off (movie Skeletor) or his help walking all over him (Filmation Skeletor). And let's not forget that MYP Skeletor could give He-Man a consistent decent fight. Not to mention sword fighting He-Man AND Randor at the same time.

You rule with fear when you "make an example" of certain people(anyone familiar with organized crime knows that). Unless he started killing the help, why would an Evil Warrior fear Skeletor? They get "spanked" a few times and it's back to status quo for them. I'm not going to pretend that the Filmation Skeletor was the biggest badass in cartoon history, but he had, imho, ingenious voice acting behind him & a ton of charisma to spare. If you want to continue with who's tougher(I feel Frank Langella's Skeletor would rule them all), which Skeletor is a burn victim who had to run to someone for help after he got splashed with his own acid?

You mention that "MYP Skeletor could give He-Man a consistent decent fight". In the past you've said that MYP He-Man was better than Filmation's since he wasn't a "god". Then you say MYP's Skeletor was better than Filmation's since he could kick MYP He-Man's butt. Why is one toon better when the villain is tougher than the hero but vice versa makes it poorer? It really just seems like a matter of preference than something that could actually be a positive or a negative. The hero ends up always winning in both series so the point is moot.

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Originally Posted by MegaGearMax

Besides, I thought you haven't seen MYP except for the pilot?

I'm 100% positive I've never said that. I watched every episode of MYP's toon as they aired. I wasn't happy with the show even back then but since it was He-Man, I kept watching. From the clips I've seen of it over the years, I like it even less now. It also has been less than 10 years since I saw it so I really don't need a refresher course like you suggested in the "Which Is Your Favorite Version Of He-Man From TV Or Movies" thread. Since I can count on one hand the things I like about MYP's toon, there's no point in me starting a thread where I view it again. MYP fans will be annoyed since it will look like trolling & those who dislike MYP will just say "I agree". That doesn't contribute anything other than causing more "us" VS "them" arguments.

September 21, 2010, 03:43am

skeletom

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Originally Posted by Blue

I love the quote in your signature! "I don't want to feel good. I want to feel EVIL!"

That's the kind of stuff I love Filmation Skeletor for! :sklol:

I don't really know NA Skeletor well. I seem to recall his voice being odd... That being said, I love Skeletor in all incarnations! He's my freakin' hero! :skgrin:

I can't wait for a new movie, but so help me... if they screw with Skeletor like they did Cobra Commander... Excuse me, I must calm myself... :skshift:

September 21, 2010, 07:33am

MegaGearMax

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Originally Posted by Mr. Shokoti

You rule with fear when you "make an example" of certain people(anyone familiar with organized crime knows that). Unless he started killing the help, why would an Evil Warrior fear Skeletor? They get "spanked" a few times and it's back to status quo for them. I'm not going to pretend that the Filmation Skeletor was the biggest badass in cartoon history, but he had, imho, ingenious voice acting behind him & a ton of charisma to spare. If you want to continue with who's tougher(I feel Frank Langella's Skeletor would rule them all), which Skeletor is a burn victim who had to run to someone for help after he got splashed with his own acid?

I counter that with the second season Filmation Skeletor, where he's mostly phoning his plots in and more interested in humor than evil deeds. If Clawful is saying to Skeletor's face how he's going to take over one day and nothing is done about it, then something's wrong.

As far as Frank Langella's version, he couldn't fight both He-Man AND someone else at the same time. Skeletor had to be a god in order to fight He-Man, something that the MYP Skeles does regularly.

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You mention that "MYP Skeletor could give He-Man a consistent decent fight". In the past you've said that MYP He-Man was better than Filmation's since he wasn't a "god". Then you say MYP's Skeletor was better than Filmation's since he could kick MYP He-Man's butt. Why is one toon better when the villain is tougher than the hero but vice versa makes it poorer? It really just seems like a matter of preference than something that could actually be a positive or a negative. The hero ends up always winning in both series so the point is moot.

No it isn't. A harder struggle is more entertaining to some people than an easy struggle.

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I'm 100% positive I've never said that. I watched every episode of MYP's toon as they aired. I wasn't happy with the show even back then but since it was He-Man, I kept watching. From the clips I've seen of it over the years, I like it even less now.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Shokoti

I haven't watched an entire MYP episode since it first aired.

Sorry, Skotoki. I took you literally and thought you meant you hadn't seen MYP since the pilot.

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It also has been less than 10 years since I saw it so I really don't need a refresher course like you suggested in the "Which Is Your Favorite Version Of He-Man From TV Or Movies" thread. Since I can count on one hand the things I like about MYP's toon, there's no point in me starting a thread where I view it again. MYP fans will be annoyed since it will look like trolling & those who dislike MYP will just say "I agree". That doesn't contribute anything other than causing more "us" VS "them" arguments.

I disagree. There are some good discussions and insights that I got from re-watching the Filmation shows, even though MYP is my preferred series. I saw the entire Filmation series in 2006-2007 when they were first released. I'd rather base stuff from fresh memories.

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Originally Posted by Blue

Mega, when did Skeletor's help "walk all over him?" Sure there was the occasional rebellion just like in MYP, but Skeletor always whipped them all soundly and sent them to bed. :hmlol:

I'm thinking mostly of how the Filmation Evil Warriors talk down to him on a regular basis (at least in season 1).

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Now in MYP when Skeletor forgave Evil-Lyn for nearly getting him killed by King Hiss, that was completely out of character. It's an example of Skeletor not being any harder/more menacing than his Filmation version.

I don't think so. MYP Evil-Lyn is the one character who could consistently question Skeletor without getting punished (anyone else would have gotten blasted). Since she and Keldor once had a history, I don't think it was out of character.

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Also, King Hiss defeated the more "menacing" MYP version of Skeletor in less than 30 seconds. I think both the MYP and Filmation Skeletors had their moments of wimpiness.

I'd say that's more of a case of King Hsss being that powerful (with magic as ancient as the Elders) than Skeletor being wimpy. King Hsss beat the Sorceress and didn't think much of He-Man either with that "You're no King Grayskull" comment. He's beating the top three people on the planet in the Filmation universe.

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I prefer Filmation Skeletor because he knew when to be scary and when to be funny. MYP was more flat, but that's just my humble opinion. :hmgrin:

When Pixel Dan does his Filmation Skeletor imitations on RGD, it is pretty funny since that Skeletor is that goofy.

September 21, 2010, 06:18pm

13977

The movie closely followed by MYP.

September 21, 2010, 07:15pm

Blue

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaGearMax

I don't think so. MYP Evil-Lyn is the one character who could consistently question Skeletor without getting punished (anyone else would have gotten blasted). Since she and Keldor once had a history, I don't think it was out of character.

I'd say that's more of a case of King Hsss being that powerful (with magic as ancient as the Elders) than Skeletor being wimpy. King Hsss beat the Sorceress and didn't think much of He-Man either with that "You're no King Grayskull" comment. He's beating the top three people on the planet in the Filmation universe.

I think the premise of a more menacing Skeletor is interesting, but the MYP version doesn't live up to that image, IMO. His sentimental feelings which lead to forgiving Evil-Lyn show me he is not as ruthless as you believe. Yes, they had a past, but for a character with no scruples, that shouldn't have made a difference. The MYP Skeletor was just as subject to sympathy as Filmation's Skeletor.

Yes, King Hiss was supposed to be a horrible threat, but Skeletor didn't even get to throw one punch. He was defeated too easily and never tried to take Hiss on in combat again. This hints to me that he was afraid of Hiss. I really REALLY wanted Skeletor to take Hiss down, but the MYP Skeletor didn't seem interested in this.

September 21, 2010, 09:56pm

KnightDamien

Movie Skeletor was, by far, the most menacing, EVIL version of Skeletor we've yet seen. He's my favourite, no doubt.

Filmation Skeletor comes in second, as I feel he was voice-acted extremely well. Lots of charisma poured into that version of him, but he seemed far less evil (as an adult, as a child I found him quite menacing).

MYP comes in third, as it's kind of a cross between decent voice acting and being more evil than Filmation, but less evil than Movie.

NA Skeletor doesn't place, for me. I -enjoy- his character, but I prefer Skeletor to be evil rather than outright crazy, which is how NA Skelly comes off, to me.