That's not really true, just the fact that other IDE's are slow as well does not justify that Eclipse is slow. (And yes I think it's slow... Komodo IDE / PyCharm (based on IntelliJ) are all faster.

Also I do still think most java apps are slow... but that's not the worst.

In my experience (on Linux) java desktop applications are the only onces that can actually kill my desktop nowadays...

This goes for Eclipse (SWT), JDownloader (SWING?) and others..

The fact that they cannot seem to play nice with multiple screens, kill compiz every so often, mess with focus, steal focus with focus-follows-mouse... all means that I still tent to avoid java as the plague

The fact that they cannot seem to play nice with multiple screens, kill compiz every so often, mess with focus, steal focus with focus-follows-mouse... all means that I still tent to avoid java as the plague

I have never had any problems with Java on my Linux desktop, either with multiple monitors or compiz. And steal focus with focus-follows-mouse? I've never seen that happen. Not once. I would say though, that I have had plenty of focus stealing problems with native GTK apps.

I honestly think sometimes the people who say this stuff about Java on the Linux desktop are just making it up to trash Java. Neither I, nor anyone else I know who uses Java on the Linux desktop can reproduce any of these problems.

Eclipse is slower than NetBeans or IntelliJ IDEA, yes. Eclipse has not been doing a very good job of keeping up with the times.

As far as Komodo IDE, I agree it performs well as I have used it some. But I also felt like I was back in the stone age compared to IDEA. Komodo's refactoring and intelligent assist features and such are really pretty lacking compared to IDEA or NetBeans. NetBeans and IDEA also both have superior Javascript editing abilities (and given how much app development today involves Web apps and Javascript, I think good Javascript support is absolutely critical in a modern IDE).