Not to be too critical but there are some things on your rankings that makes you shake your head. I was surprised to see Kirtland who is having a great year ranked where they were. Mooney loses to Mentor but is ranked ahead of them and Mentor loses to Ignatius but is ranked ahead of them. Ignatius is ranked 12th? Also, Euclid has no business being ranked in the Top 12 because Cleveland Heights is not that good of a football team.

Kirtland may be d5, i get all that. But after tonights 56-6 ass whoopin they are now 8-0. Jeck, I've had the oppurtunity to see them all season. My son was in camp with those kids and man they have size. A very, very good football team. They do the little things and don't beat themselves. At the end of the day rankings dont really mean alot from local websites/news ect. But it is nice to see a local D5 team getting some love. You want a real absurd rank, check out fox 8's. I mean Iggy over Glennville?http://media.myfoxcleveland.com/fridayn ... earch.html

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Like I said they are having a great year and it's always great to see a local team doing well but it's just an opinion on the where they are ranked and ahead of some teams. I have heard that they are HUGE! Why isn't Glenville even ranked?

BECAUSE GLENVILLE PLAYED IGNATIUS AND THAT'S IT. THEY CAN'T GET BY ON MEDIA HYPE HERE BY TOILING IN THE USELESS SENATE CONFERENCE. YOU SEE HOW CLOSE STRONGSVILLE GOT TO THEM. THE 'VILLE GOT THAT WIN VS IGGY AND HELD ON TO THE TOP SPOT, BUT THAT WILL COME TO PASS BY WEEK 11. BACK TO "OUR" LIST...IT'S ABOUT FOOTBALL NOT HYPE. URSULINE, FOR EXAMPLE, COULD WIPE THE STATE IN ANY DIVISION RIGHT NOW ...YES I THINK THEY WOULD PUT A HURTIN' ON GLENVILLE AND IGGY TOO.

KIRTLAND DESERVES WHERE THEY ARE BECAUSE OF HOW THEY PLAY AS A "TEAM" WITH A TON OF "HEART" AND REGARDLESS OF BEING SCOFFED AT FOR BEING TRAPPED IN THE CVC VALLEY...THEY WOULD GLADLY STEP UP AND TAKE ON ANY TEAM COME PLAYOFF TIME. THEY APPRECIATE THE GAME!

Dozen wrote:Kirtland may be d5, i get all that. But after tonights 56-6 ass whoopin they are now 8-0. Jeck, I've had the oppurtunity to see them all season. My son was in camp with those kids and man they have size. A very, very good football team. They do the little things and don't beat themselves. At the end of the day rankings dont really mean alot from local websites/news ect. But it is nice to see a local D5 team getting some love. You want a real absurd rank, check out fox 8's. I mean Iggy over Glennville?http://media.myfoxcleveland.com/fridayn ... earch.html

8-0 is 8-0 but Kirtland is a D5 team. Of course, so is Ursuline and they might be the best team in the state.

"It's all about winning for me, and I think the Cavs are committed to doing that," he said. "But at the same time I've given myself options to this point, and like I said before, me and my team, we have a game plan that we're going to execute, and we'll see what we get."

D1ball wrote:BECAUSE GLENVILLE PLAYED IGNATIUS AND THAT'S IT. THEY CAN'T GET BY ON MEDIA HYPE HERE BY TOILING IN THE USELESS SENATE CONFERENCE. YOU SEE HOW CLOSE STRONGSVILLE GOT TO THEM. THE 'VILLE GOT THAT WIN VS IGGY AND HELD ON TO THE TOP SPOT, BUT THAT WILL COME TO PASS BY WEEK 11. BACK TO "OUR" LIST...IT'S ABOUT FOOTBALL NOT HYPE. URSULINE, FOR EXAMPLE, COULD WIPE THE STATE IN ANY DIVISION RIGHT NOW ...YES I THINK THEY WOULD PUT A HURTIN' ON GLENVILLE AND IGGY TOO.

KIRTLAND DESERVES WHERE THEY ARE BECAUSE OF HOW THEY PLAY AS A "TEAM" WITH A TON OF "HEART" AND REGARDLESS OF BEING SCOFFED AT FOR BEING TRAPPED IN THE CVC VALLEY...THEY WOULD GLADLY STEP UP AND TAKE ON ANY TEAM COME PLAYOFF TIME. THEY APPRECIATE THE GAME!

agree d1, and I applaud the fact you recognize those kids. Look, I took my son from a d1 program to a d5 BECAUSE THEY TEACH FOOTBALL!. Not some bullshit spread south tries to run or gimmick shit. Not a program where daddy makes a donation to keep his kid the QB.

jeck wrote:Like I said they are having a great year and it's always great to see a local team doing well but it's just an opinion on the where they are ranked and ahead of some teams. I have heard that they are HUGE! Why isn't Glenville even ranked?

Again, look at the topic title, "Not yout typical rankings....". I cannot dispute your takes at all. But it's refreshing to see those kids at a very small school getting some recognition. We all know they can't hang with teams like Mentor, Glennville ect, but at the same time they do deserve some credit. They are basicly a smaller version of Mentor in regards to the same system being run from 7u-HS. I give guys like yourself a ton of credit for the job you do over in Mentor. If it wasn't for coaches like you the High school wouldn't have the success theve had over the past few years.

Also,congrats on another world title, I told Langdon you're a lock for the HOF now.

jeck wrote:Like I said they are having a great year and it's always great to see a local team doing well but it's just an opinion on the where they are ranked and ahead of some teams. I have heard that they are HUGE! Why isn't Glenville even ranked?

Again, look at the topic title, "Not yout typical rankings....". I cannot dispute your takes at all. But it's refreshing to see those kids at a very small school getting some recognition. We all know they can't hang with teams like Mentor, Glennville ect, but at the same time they do deserve some credit. They are basicly a smaller version of Mentor in regards to the same system being run from 7u-HS. I give guys like yourself a ton of credit for the job you do over in Mentor. If it wasn't for coaches like you the High school wouldn't have the success theve had over the past few years.

Also,congrats on another world title, I told Langdon you're a lock for the HOF now.

Brian, thanks for the kind words on the coaching and the world title. I look forward to seeing a KIrtland in the playoffs and I hope they beat Ursuline. Yes, you are right they do deserve credit, a lot of credit for what they have accomplished this season and hopefully more. You know the guy running Kirtland is a Mount Union guy (cue Lubber). I'm not saying they shouldn't be on your list and I also think Mayfield is a tough as they come. Their defense is unbelievable. Also, there are so many more deserving guys for the HOF other than me (Peeker/Pipes) but thanks for the props!

Was Ed's saving themselves for next week against Iggy? Playoffs are here, can't wait.

"It's all about winning for me, and I think the Cavs are committed to doing that," he said. "But at the same time I've given myself options to this point, and like I said before, me and my team, we have a game plan that we're going to execute, and we'll see what we get."

Pretty much. After Friday night's action. St. Ed's clinched a spot, so Saturday's game was rather meaningless. Coach Neds showed nothing. Look for a much more competitive game this week.

Here's something y'all on the outside looking in need to recognize.

If the freaking Ignatuis - Ed's chess teams were playing in a closet with no one watching, neither would save a damn thing and both would scratch and claw to the finish. Maybe a handful of other schools in the state can understand the intensity of a rivalry like this. You may THINK you have a blood rivalry like this, but if you aren't at the Massillon - McKinley / Ed's - Ignatius level, I'm going to suggest maybe you can't quite imagine what it is really like. Indiana vs Purdue is not Ohio State v Michigan.

And after 2 blow outs, I'm gonna say that some folks' accountability took a small hit.

And what's with the man-love for the JCU coaching staff, other than I'm sure they learned alot from Larry Kehres's staff?

Chico has had an affiliation w/ JCU since Lindon Johnson was President.

JCU hasn't really accomplished anything on the field. So I dtill don't understand the love. You must be an alum? Which is cool, but I can't figure out any other angle. Obvious MUC is the most dynastic college program on an level ever.

Absolutely correct Ed's should get better, but we'll show up next year as well. Next QB may be better than Holland.

Aside from MUC, JCU might be the most accomplished OAC team in the last 15-20 years. Yes I am an alum, as proud but also sad of the fact that I ws part of the last JCU to beat MUC (1989) and last JCU to tie them (1991).

JCu develops good coaches. Look no further than down the street at Case wheere Greg Debeljak has turned that program around.

lubber wrote:Aside from MUC, JCU might be the most accomplished OAC team in the last 15-20 years. Yes I am an alum, as proud but also sad of the fact that I ws part of the last JCU to beat MUC (1989) and last JCU to tie them (1991).

JCu develops good coaches. Look no further than down the street at Case wheere Greg Debeljak has turned that program around.

I thionk capital and ONU may have a bone to pick with you, but no questions CWRU has done a nice job in the egg head conference and done it the right way. Facilities are good things.

But other than Don Shula, I'm not ready to buy into the JCU as cradle of coaches thing. But I do respect an alum representing! Propers.

I think a lot of good coaches come these D3 schools. Look at Jason Hall at Massillon and Mike Elder at Avon. Both have won everywhere they have been and both went to Mount. There are a few Mount grads that head coaches in college: Mike Hallet at Hedleberg, Dean Paul at Ohio Northern, and Eric Raeburn at now at Wabash College after being at Coe (IA) for 8 years.

[tcfradio][/tcfradio]Jason Hall is a curse...look at how he managed to take an already good team at Brush...make a playoff run, then blow up the program...ALMOST spread his locust seed at Nordonia until he gravy trained his way to Massillon where he will surely ruin the tradition that school has.....IMHO.

D1ball wrote:[tcfradio][/tcfradio]Jason Hall is a curse...look at how he managed to take an already good team at Brush...make a playoff run, then blow up the program...ALMOST spread his locust seed at Nordonia until he gravy trained his way to Massillon where he will surely ruin the tradition that school has.....IMHO.

Other than a paycheck, is Washington really a plumb job anymore? Horrible pressure out of line w/ talent pool.