Question regarding male porn stars

Posted - Nov 3 2008 : 04:41:19 AMWhy the hell do male performance have to jack off after they have sex? Don't you think having sex with beautiful female performers would make you cum multiple times alone? And sometimes it takes forever for them to "cum", and you can see the girls getting tired of waiting.

Posted - Nov 3 2008 : 05:02:19 AM
They know that their mostly male viewers secretly yearn to see a man masturbate. Those viewers cannot bring themselves to rent gay porn because of embarrasment or denial, so this is the next best thing.

Posted - Nov 3 2008 : 06:57:16 PM
I think a lot of it has to do with getting the cumshot. Unless you're shooting a creampie movie, you want it very visible. I think a lot of times guys pull out before they're actually ready, because they're rather worried about going off, and that's why you have a long lag waiting for them to cum.

As for the whole taking a long time, well, I hate to reiterate it, but it's hard being a male porn star, blah blah blah. Every guy thinks they could do it so much better than the ones on-screen, and while I'm sure some definitely could, it's harder than it looks. Not only might you be having sex with a woman who turns you off/isn't your type (either in looks, personality, or even both), but there are tons of people watching you, the sex is being directed instead of organic and flowing naturally, and when you do it as a job, it quickly loses the glamor.

Not that these are good excuses. Just something to keep in mind.

What I want to know is- why aren't more female pornstars taking the reins and helping the guy out instead of sitting there being bored waiting? It'd add a lot more interest to the scene if she knocked his hand away and was all take-charge like "Let me!".

Posted - Nov 3 2008 : 07:22:34 PM
Please don't give these guys the easy out. It's hard to do porn my ass. The fix is to stop doing porn and fuck. Are these guys professional fucker or professional masturbaters.

I have noticed an increase in compilation that feature cum-shots only. I've rented a couple thinking there would be a variety of sex endings, including pull-out and cum. They were all the same, guys jerking off on a female. I guess there is lots of interest in the amount and quality of the cum.

Why the hell do male performance have to jack off after they have sex? Don't you think having sex with beautiful female performers would make you cum multiple times alone? And sometimes it takes forever for them to "cum", and you can see the girls getting tired of waiting.

Viagra... take it everyday for a week yourself and see how hard it is to cum. I have been on set countless times, it isnt easy being a male performer.

Posted - Nov 4 2008 : 08:10:32 AM
It's so lame. Tit wanking Gianna or Brandy Talore, and then just before the pop yes you guess it stroke stroke stroke. I think better to get joes off the sreet to star in porn movies not the same guys who take viagra.

ntfighter wrote:Please don't give these guys the easy out. It's hard to do porn my ass. The fix is to stop doing porn and fuck. Are these guys professional fucker or professional masturbaters.

I have noticed an increase in compilation that feature cum-shots only. I've rented a couple thinking there would be a variety of sex endings, including pull-out and cum. They were all the same, guys jerking off on a female. I guess there is lots of interest in the amount and quality of the cum.

Edited by - ntfighter on 11/3/2008 7:25:29 PM

Unless you've performed on camera with a porn star yourself and have done better, then quit judging.

lilacwine wrote:They know that their mostly male viewers secretly yearn to see a man masturbate. Those viewers cannot bring themselves to rent gay porn because of embarrasment or denial, so this is the next best thing.

Posted - Nov 5 2008 : 11:29:45 AM
I always look at it this way. If I were able to train my cock not to cum when I am tit bangin' Gianna there has to be a down side to it. I wouldn't last 10 min in most of these scenes. But they have to lose sensitivity at some point in order to be able to maintain during the action. But you cant just turn off that control that easily.

I am 41 now and I can say I can go longer and harder now that I could before, (W/o Viagra) but there are lots of times I just cant get over the edge and finish. The wife blames my allergy medication. It keeps the body from reacting to certain stimulation she says. That may be part of it but we have alot more and intense sex then we ever did before and I know I am losing sensitivity. And I am not doing 3 scenes day! She doesn't mind at all.

But I do feel for the guy sometimes as you know they want to get it done and are dying to finish but cant get it done. Lots of pressure.

Guys who can maintain natural wood / fuck well on camera, shoot on queue and be ready to go at will are difficult to find - apparently a lot more difficult than the abundance of female talent out there.

So there is a shortage of supply, which would normally dictate a higher price. But the demand is so weak, regardless of the shortage, the guys get paid a fraction of what women get. If porn did not sell because of the lack of male talent, they would be getting paid as much as or more than the women. In other words, the demand would dictate the males get paid (and perform) much better.

Until the industry sees a decline in their sales directly attributed to shitty male talent, the same dudes will be on-screen getting paid the same thing they are now. I think it has already been proven out that porn will sell regardless of the male talent, so we are going nowhere fast.

Most of the people I know who are porn aficionados have come to the point where they expect the male talent to be mediocre at best - if a guy happens to be better than the rest, well that is just a bonus. I really don't think the casual porn viewer, the more typical buy/rent occasionally guy...NOT the guy who cares enough to post on a ADT on the subject, gives two shits about the male talent.

What I want to know is- why aren't more female pornstars taking the reins and helping the guy out instead of sitting there being bored waiting? It'd add a lot more interest to the scene if she knocked his hand away and was all take-charge like "Let me!".

Posted - Nov 5 2008 : 11:07:58 PM
this topic cracks me up. I can't cum any other way. six seven hours straight, it dosent matter. If I manage to finish without having to jerk it then something amazingly kinky must have een goin on at the time. most of the time my wife dosent get bored, she gets sore... and I have had directors tell me before that if I couldnt cum on film quick enough then they couldnt use me.

Posted - Dec 19 2008 : 12:12:56 PM
^^Your avatar quote mentions bisexuality. Do you cum readily when you're with a male? If so problem solved. If not take a break from any form of sex and allow your body to regain its sensitivity. You have whacked too much.

ntfighter wrote:Please don't give these guys the easy out. It's hard to do porn my ass. The fix is to stop doing porn and fuck. Are these guys professional fucker or professional masturbaters.

I have noticed an increase in compilation that feature cum-shots only. I've rented a couple thinking there would be a variety of sex endings, including pull-out and cum. They were all the same, guys jerking off on a female. I guess there is lots of interest in the amount and quality of the cum.

Edited by - ntfighter on 11/3/2008 7:25:29 PM

Unless you've performed on camera with a porn star yourself and have done better, then quit judging.

Oh stop it, stop making out that performing on camera is some mysterious art that can only be mastered after long years of meditation sitting in a tree studying your fucking navel.

Everyone posting here has achieved the highest rank in masturbating. We all would be awarded the red sash. What has lead you to believe porn guys are any better at it.

Grasshopper Confucius say: do not focus on the goal but focus instead on the journey.

Posted - Dec 19 2008 : 01:49:28 PM
Who cares that they need to jack off? Just DON'T do it on camera. Let the girls finish it off when they're ready. It's still just sex, cameras or not. I jack-off and I have sex with many women. When a woman gets me off it's 1000 times better. There's just too, too much male masturbation is straight porn. It's anti-climatic. If guys wanna watch other guys beat off, get gay porn. Let the women do it!

ntfighter wrote:^^Your avatar quote mentions bisexuality. Do you cum readily when you're with a male? If so problem solved.

It's not that simple. I'm also bisexual and I can't cum without jerking off either. It doesn't matter if I'm with a man or a woman. It doesn't matter how turned on I am. It doesn't matter how long it's been since I came. It's just the way I am.

Most of these guys in porn can fuck for a long time without losing control and shooting a load. They're probably like me. They probably can't cum without masturbation. It's not a choice. It's an affliction and it sucks when you actually want to have sex with somebody without jackin' it but that's life.

But I do prefer to see the porn pop shot that way anyway. We have the creampie thing for guys who don't care to see the pop shot. I don't know what the problem is. I know how to skip over it if I don't want to see the jackin' part. I don't understand why you don't just skip to the next scene if you don't want to see the pop shot. Problem solved.

Posted - Dec 19 2008 : 03:09:19 PM
^I'm not to making light of your problem. If this is the case with the men in porn then the wrong men are being hired. I believe a there is a large population of bisexual men in porn. Never the less a porn actors job is to convince us that this is the best sexual experience he's ever had with the hottest women in the universe. We help the process along by the suspension of disbelief. A guy Preferring to jack off rather than involve his partner, who we know is willing, paid and sexy as hell, is just too much disbelief too suspend.

Yah, creme pie, right. porn studs jack off in those too, and in tit-fucking, in oral and any genre one could name. It is all pervasive and unavoidable.

I'm not for the abolition of jerked cum shots. I'm for a more judicious use of them. They have their place.

The large percentage of the cum shot in porn are jerked, most cum-shots outside of porn are not, can't porn compromise for the sake of realism.

Rp sexual orientation alone has you and I at opposite on this issue.

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Skyscrapper wrote:Who cares that they need to jack off? Just DON'T do it on camera. Let the girls finish it off when they're ready. It's still just sex, cameras or not. I jack-off and I have sex with many women. When a woman gets me off it's 1000 times better. There's just too, too much male masturbation is straight porn. It's anti-climatic. If guys wanna watch other guys beat off, get gay porn. Let the women do it!

You echo my thoughts exactly. Most of the time Jerking is just a way to get it done quicker, give the girl a rest, or just to aim it properly. If it's in the scene for 3 minutes then it's just shitty directing/editing. If a director tells you times up and get it out, you get it out. But there is still no reason to leave in 3 minutes of smashing off. Get it almost there and let the chick finish it. If your not creative enough to figure that out maybe shooting porn isn't for you. Just a thought.

Skyscrapper wrote:Who cares that they need to jack off? Just DON'T do it on camera. Let the girls finish it off when they're ready. It's still just sex, cameras or not. I jack-off and I have sex with many women. When a woman gets me off it's 1000 times better. There's just too, too much male masturbation is straight porn. It's anti-climatic. If guys wanna watch other guys beat off, get gay porn. Let the women do it!

You echo my thoughts exactly. Most of the time Jerking is just a way to get it done quicker, give the girl a rest, or just to aim it properly. If it's in the scene for 3 minutes then it's just shitty directing/editing. If a director tells you times up and get it out, you get it out. But there is still no reason to leave in 3 minutes of smashing off. Get it almost there and let the chick finish it. If your not creative enough to figure that out maybe shooting porn isn't for you. Just a thought.

Lance, you're the first male performer/producer type to respond that way. Thanks, man. Usually porn guys shrug it off like we're morons for making the complaint. That reeks of insecurity. It's just sex. We all have it. (some of us more than others) I realize being a pro gives the phrase performance anxiety a whole new meaning. I get that. But we've all see it. After a great fuck scene, the girls are blowing the dude to get him off. She has him RIGHT THERE and he SNATCHES his dick away to beat his own meat. Instead. Then he gives BACK to the girl AFTER he's drained his OWN balls. Most of the guys are capable of getting off and most of the girls are capable of getting them off. It's just an old stupid habit. Porn dude convention. "Blow Me Sandwich" and other suck series proves the girls are more than capable to make bones go boom. The guys are either performing handjobs for other men to watch, making a statement by jerking off in this 'bitch's' face, or it really is the height of insecurity. (my hypothesis) So Lance. you can be the catalyst here. Be an example. Make a series dedicated to the girls MAKING cocks cum. Just PLEASE make sure that there's fucking involved as well. Blowjob/handjob vids are great but why can't we have some torrid fucking first? Maybe it's also why gloyholes are becoming so popular. BTW, nice website.

RandomPrecision wrote:Most of these guys in porn can fuck for a long time without losing control and shooting a load. They're probably like me. They probably can't cum without masturbation. It's not a choice. It's an affliction and it sucks when you actually want to have sex with somebody without jackin' it but that's life.

I do believe its a consequence of the age old prerequisite to be "able to last longer", in the face of intense excitement.

And as a result, they simply have deadened, less sensitive cocks, that have to be self-pumped, self jerked, and primed before cumming.

I've always associated the "last longer" requirement, as actually a long undisputed request of the female performers, rather than serving any practical purpose. How long they lasted, has never been high on my list of priorities as a viewer.

IMO to hell with lasting longer, I'm tired of every scene lasting twenty minutes to arrive at a cumshot. I'd much rather see four loose cannons, each bust a nut every 5 minutes, or prep to shoot the cumshot first, then film the 20 minutes of fucking.

Posted - Dec 22 2008 : 10:01:27 AM
The fact is that these guys are unable to perform as expected. Jerked cum shots are a fall-back position, plan number two.Fail. How about finding out if under the circumstances the prospect is able to perform. Questions could be along these lines. "Are you able to have sex to completion with a female". If not there's still lots of work to be had in all the genres where jerked shots are planned. Why fuck up the tit-fucking, cream pie and big butt movies.

Posted - Dec 22 2008 : 01:58:27 PM
^Yeah any glory hole series will guarantee no male jerk-off scenes. The same company/director also makes the reverse series, with white girls going down on black cocks at the glory hole.

Posted - Dec 22 2008 : 10:44:19 PM
Here is the answer to this topic....directors direct the way they want to..not you. You will never get a director to change the way they shoot and produce a scene. The stroke into the chicks face is a set up. This buys time to get the girl looking at her best, time to get the camera where it needs to be, clear shot of all the cum, etc...there are many reasons for this. There are many scenes out there where the girls suck a guy off and spit/show their reward...go rent/buy those scenes. If your going to facial and your pumping pussy...it is hard to cum up for air and squirt on cue and on target.

undone wrote:Here is the answer to this topic....directors direct the way they want to..not you. You will never get a director to change the way they shoot and produce a scene.

Wrong, directors shoot what they think their audience wants, that's why so many scenes end with facials now, whereas in the 80s and early 90s they were more rare. Notice that they no longer have the cut-away to the guys face before the cum shot? Notice the return to natural tits, curvy bodies and even a little bush? These developments come to some degree from the demands of 'fans.'

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Posted - Dec 22 2008 : 11:22:41 PM
Then based on your analogy...the fans must demand the guy stroking his cock in the face of the chick he is about to blow on....enough said.

undone wrote:Then based on your analogy...the fans must demand the guy stroking his cock in the face of the chick he is about to blow on....enough said.

See below, to a degree you're right. I agree that producers will often do things for expediency rather than quality, but that's rampant throughout pornography because the crap will often sell just as well as the good stuff. I also said that directors do what they THINK fans want, sometimes they're wrong or just don't give a shit. The practise your complaining about (which I also dislike) is because directors believe that fans want every scene to end with a facial. I find facials boring and overused.

killbillvol69 wrote:^Yeah any glory hole series will guarantee no male jerk-off scenes. The same company/director also makes the reverse series, with white girls going down on black cocks at the glory hole.

I'll be damned this is what I'm talking about but I'm not taking the risk, not here, seems like NA has a long way to go (its not supposed to be like this you impotent limp bitches) I would have not known that but that's your problem not mine I'm gonna bank on this. Gritty Georgia porn lol very cool never seen this before besides the glory hole concept.

Just a few thoughts for ya; I recommend you don't read this unless you want to have your porn fantasies ruined, though.

When you're watching porn, you're usually not watching a guy being paid to have sex with a porn star; you're being paid to watch a guy look like he's having sex with a porn star. Having sex would suggest that the guy's enjoyment, interests, or desires actually mean something (and, on set, they usually don't.) Same with the girl for that matter. Sure, there are lots of scenes where the performers are obviously having a great time, but the reality is such scenes are the exception, not the rule.

When you're having sex with someone, the only people who have to be happy with how it looks is you and your partner. You're not expected to do it in the most bizzare, awkward positions so that the camera can get a better shot. You're not told to start, stop, change, move, wait, go clean up, take a five minute break, add lube, or wipe something up, nevermind that nobody gives a damn if you actually have chemistry with the girl or not; for every Gianna and Sasha out there, there's a thousand in the business who are hardly at that level. Sure, that's what the guy's getting paid to do, but it's hardly a pile of money in the first place. Finally, the choice for the guy to jerk off instead of actually fucking to climax is often the choice of the female performer. If the camera isn't rolling, it's up to her if she wants to 'help out' the male talent or not (and more often than not, she doesn't.) Shatters the whole fantasy of the girl wanting to 'take charge' and just fuck, I know.

I agree, I think it looks lame to watch a guy jerk off for ten minutes before he pops, and I'd rather see porn where the people on camera really are having a good time.

Same with the girl for that matter. Sure, there are lots of scenes where the performers are obviously having a great time, but the reality is such scenes are the exception, not the rule.

Do a check on all Steve Holmes posts here and watch him gloat in every post about his job. Maybe not all female performers enjoy their job but it's pretty safe to say that ALL males enjoy their job because it's a simple math:

Same with the girl for that matter. Sure, there are lots of scenes where the performers are obviously having a great time, but the reality is such scenes are the exception, not the rule.

Do a check on all Steve Holmes posts here and watch him gloat in every post about his job. Maybe not all female performers enjoy their job but it's pretty safe to say that ALL males enjoy their job because it's a simple math:

Sex with hot girls + Getting paid for it = Best job in the world

I want to enjoy performers enjoying themselves. Believe me it is with great regret that I say it's just not believable. I'm sure he knows the differences between acting as a gigolo, having sex and performing porn. That's Steve is just just stroking US.

Just a few thoughts for ya; I recommend you don't read this unless you want to have your porn fantasies ruined, though.

When you're watching porn, you're usually not watching a guy being paid to have sex with a porn star; you're being paid to watch a guy look like he's having sex with a porn star. Having sex would suggest that the guy's enjoyment, interests, or desires actually mean something (and, on set, they usually don't.) Same with the girl for that matter. Sure, there are lots of scenes where the performers are obviously having a great time, but the reality is such scenes are the exception, not the rule.

When you're having sex with someone, the only people who have to be happy with how it looks is you and your partner. You're not expected to do it in the most bizzare, awkward positions so that the camera can get a better shot. You're not told to start, stop, change, move, wait, go clean up, take a five minute break, add lube, or wipe something up, nevermind that nobody gives a damn if you actually have chemistry with the girl or not; for every Gianna and Sasha out there, there's a thousand in the business who are hardly at that level. Sure, that's what the guy's getting paid to do, but it's hardly a pile of money in the first place. Finally, the choice for the guy to jerk off instead of actually fucking to climax is often the choice of the female performer. If the camera isn't rolling, it's up to her if she wants to 'help out' the male talent or not (and more often than not, she doesn't.) Shatters the whole fantasy of the girl wanting to 'take charge' and just fuck, I know.

I agree, I think it looks lame to watch a guy jerk off for ten minutes before he pops, and I'd rather see porn where the people on camera really are having a good time.

Stephan

uhhhh hehh 10 minutes damn!! but that would require some natural spontaniety on the part of the girl and also some naturally sizzling chemistry and I don't know if this is widely prevalent.

Same with the girl for that matter. Sure, there are lots of scenes where the performers are obviously having a great time, but the reality is such scenes are the exception, not the rule.

Do a check on all Steve Holmes posts here and watch him gloat in every post about his job. Maybe not all female performers enjoy their job but it's pretty safe to say that ALL males enjoy their job because it's a simple math:

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ntfighter wrote:I want to enjoy performers enjoying themselves. Believe me it is with great regret that I say it's just not believable. I'm sure he knows the differences between acting as a gigolo, having sex and performing porn. That's Steve is just just stroking US.

I would make more money if I'd perform less and produce more, but I just LOVE performing.

Why the hell do male performance have to jack off after they have sex? Don't you think having sex with beautiful female performers would make you cum multiple times alone? And sometimes it takes forever for them to "cum", and you can see the girls getting tired of waiting.

Viagra... take it everyday for a week yourself and see how hard it is to cum. I have been on set countless times, it isnt easy being a male performer.

Michael

www.AdultBizLaw.com

Shit if it was easy to obtain here in Toronto I would not mind having a few tablets. Need a prescription here to get it along with Cialis. And depending on your age, a doctor won't prescribe it to you. I'm only 39, so his answer would be "You're fine, you don't need it" LOLDamn I want to have wood longer than 10 minutes ya know LOL