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Comment by Wren

Comment by Carebear

There are 7 Drakkari Gutrippers or Drakkari Scytheclaw in his habit. You can kill either them or the ones the boss is summoning.

The tank need to pull the Boss and the first 1-3 Adds, then the Group kills them first and pulls the other 3 one by one and kill them near the Boss.

Its easier to have a Paladin or Dk in the group so he can Tank an add by himself instead of the tank pulling them by his own.

Every Add is doing a -5% Stamina disease on the MainTank, and the Boss does a DoT attack wich does Damadge if the Tank isnt at 100% Life.So the Healer has to heal him up all the time. Your damadge dealers should bring the Boss to 20% and then wait for all Gutrippers to Spawn.

Comment by Felrath1

There are 7 total raptors in the fenced-in area with King Dred, one may be safely killed before the pull to retain the 6 required raptors. King Dred does not summon any additional raptors, and only the closest one or two will pull with him, depending on his position when you pull. Periodically he will cast Call Raptor, calling one of the raptors in the back of the pen that has not yet engaged the group to assist him. If he isn't calling them fast enough, group members can manually pull additional raptors during the fight.

Having an off-tank to pick up the raptors is very helpful for this achievement, as King Dred will periodiclly amplify bleed effects on the tank by 75% and reduce the tank's armor by 75%. Each scytheclaw raptor uses a Rend which can stack from multiple scytheclaws (but one raptor cannot stack his own rend multiple times) and each gutripper raptor will use a debuff that reduces its target's stamina by 15%. (does not stack) If the group fails to kill King Dred, the raptors you have killed will not respawn and you will not be able to complete the achievement until the instance resets if you do not have 6 left alive.

Comment by Intermission

We just killed King Dred and killed every Raptor in the room during the encounter, 7 in total.

We didnt get the achievement. Bugged perhaps? Anyone else managed to do it?

Comment by mrb4b00

King Dred's area has I believe about 7 raptors. You don't have to pull them all at once, just slowly pull and kill the individual adds and make your way inside the area as you fight the boss. If you don't have enough, or accidentally killed the first two before engaging the boss, King Dred will also spawn some for your convenience as long if you fight him outside of the fenced area.

Comment by Ludrin

We basically kept him in a corner near the stairs up to the next part of the instance where the tank pulls Dred Alone (It's doable) Then we had the hunter MD 2 raptors at a time to our tank and dps them down, by the time we'd killed the first 4 MD was ready again on the first hunter and so he pulled the last two down, Be aware that the tank will take some punishment, we had our elemental shaman concentrating on healing throughout the fight to keep the tank up, in the end it was worth it. fight took ~4 minutes. Achievment and All

Comment by Leris

You need to kill the adds during his defeat, not during the fight. Kill all 6 adds at the same time while he's going to dead.

Comment by EdgEy

Feral druid geared in full Heroic blues here.

Stealthed in, pulled all of the adds at once and AoE'd them down with the boss. Took a fair bit of healing + defensive cooldowns, but easily doable.

Comment by vickyd

Just did this yesterday. This achievement is really hard on your healer. Make sure you have a extremely good, high-burst healer in in your group.

The setup: There are 7 total raptors in that room. You are allowed to kill one of them (closest to the fence) at the start.

Positioning: We were fighting near the entrance. With a tremor totem out to help with his fear.

The pull: After killing the first raptor, we pulled 3 of them when the boss was well on his way back to the far side of the fence. Dropped them to about 10% and I pulled the boss using Moonfire. As soon as boss was aggroed, tank taunted him over and we finished off the first 3 adds ASAP. This was very essential.

About 15-20 seconds later, boss called another add using his 'Call Raptor' or 'Raptor Call' ability. We downed him as well. After that, the raptors stopped coming - possibly because they were out of range so I went off to aggro them 1 by 1.

The bleed effect started ticking really hard and the pally wasn't able to keep him topped up. Being a dwarf tank would help tremendously here I assume with Stoneform. Towards the end, the tank was taking massive dmg and ended up dying once. The pally bubbled at this stage, I shadowmelded and the ele shammy got killed. The Rogue evasion tanked him for ~ 10 secs during which I brezzed the warrior, and after getting aggro for ~ 5 secs, the shaman ankhed and we were able to finish him off.

So watch out for the bleeds and you'll need a hella lot HP. As a druid tank, I'd say save your SoTF for the end when it stacks up too high.

Enjoy!

Comment by elliotthehobo

no healer?

Comment by TheSteelPhantom

Did this today with a Prot Tank, Resto Shaman, and 3 melee DPS (Deathknight, Rogue (me), and Warrior). Pretty simple, but we had to manually pull a lot of the raptors due to how slow Dred is at calling them.

Comment by kaiousama

Kill 1 raptor, then wait for Dred to patrol to the back, and grab 3 raptors. AoE them to about 10%, then Dred should be near the front. Grab him, then finish off the 3 raptors, they should be dead and all bleed effects gone before Dred puts his multiplier up.

After that, I just tanked him and grabbed raptors as he called them. DPS switched to raptors, quickly burn them down, then back to Dred. As long as the tank is well geared (heroic level gear or higher in almost every slot), the damage is not too high. Druid ended the fight with about 60% mana.

The key is getting the first 3 raptors on the verge of death before pulling Dred, it made the achievement a breeze. This reduces your risk of having rends up during King Dred's mangle.

Comment by Domebuddy

I did this today, with Me (Prot warrior) A Fury warrior, a Arms warrior, an enchance shammy, and a druid healer.

I just pulled them all at once, (after having marked them, and aoe tanked while the group dps'd each add one by one) and we did quite well, prolly cause me and the healer were decently geared. and Stoneform ftw =)

it honestly wasnt hard at all for us, was quite fun as well

Comment by Noxie705

We did this one today with:

Druid tankLockResto DruidMage Hunter

Pulled one add w/ the boss, tanked add and boss as dps burned down the add, then hunter MD'd 2nd add to tank, burn that one down rinse and repeat.

Tanked him by the bottom of the stairs.

The benefit of the druid tank on this was high HP, armor and dodge for the hard physical hits. And berserk for the fear.

The group was heroic lvl geared.

Comment by Esre

Reference to the John Cusack movie, Better Off Dead.

Comment by Nikotine

Did it yesterday with ease.

Group:Prot WarriorBM HunterShadow PriestMoonkinResto Druid

The way we did this made it fairly trivial. We had the hunter pull the first 3 raptors without actually pulling the boss. We DPS'd down the raptors to around 15%. Then we grabbed the boss, killed the 3 raptors and were already halfway done. After that it was just a tank and spank fight. King Dred would use his Raptor Call and I'd just taunt them and the group would nuke them. I used both Last Stand and Shield Wall on the next two raptors to make it even easier. If I was taking too much damage from the debuff the Moonkin would just offheal. Pretty straight forward.

Good luck and hope this helps!

edit: didnt see the post above that details the exact same strat :(

Comment by Sxeros

We encountered the bug today while handling this. Really easy achievement by the way. No one should be able to fail on it. Basically, I pulled Dred out to the courtyard, tanked against a pillar, while DPS and our restoshaman standing at the stairs which leads to Prophet. Well, every time "Dred raised his claws blaablaablaa", one of them came. Killed, killed, killed.. when we had the total six we just blasted him down (he was at 50k HP or so). Made a ticket, nothing (though I knew it) could be sadly done.I hope this, alongside other bugged things, gets fixed via next patch.

- Lestuniem of Moonglade -

Comment by abaldwin

Still bugged as of patch 3.0.8

Comment by jayze666

Did this today:Prot, ret and holy paladindestro lock arcane mage.

we pulled dread and the closest raptor then worked our way down killing the raptors one by one until the end when we had 3 left pulled them all and dps'd them down one at a time after the last one died dred was still above 50% health we just burned him down, got the acheivement.

Comment by Lightweave

Quick notes from attempting this today.

Start the fight like normal and DPS King Dred down to 75% and stop. I, the tank, would just sit there and let him hit on me in the corner. As long as no damage was done to him, he did not fear. He would just use his normal attacks and the one bleed effect. Every now and then King Dred will use Raptor Call and will pull one raptor to you. This was extremely easy for our Disc Priest to heal through since there was no fear or extra damage from him enraging, or using any other special abilities.

Ended up wiping from an ill timed DC on the healer =( Will probably be using this same strat later today after reset though. :) Just thought I would put the info out there on the non-enrage/fear if you just hold him.

Comment by James

Its entirely possible for a well-geared grouped to kill Dred before all 6 raptors can be summoned. Keep this in mind if Dred is dying quickly.

Comment by DeathMaster

Fairly easy achievement, we one-shotted this.

Before we started, I marked every add to prevent confusion.

Just engage the boss like normal. I pulled 2 adds while pulling the boss and we killed those first. I build up some aggro on the boss and the DPS ignored him. Instead of waiting for Raptor Call, we had DK pulling an add when there were none. We ended up killing all raptors in the area, all got their achievement. Definitely not bugged.

Don't think too complicated, one tank and one healer of decent quality is enough to get this achievement done.

Comment by Boringz

sapped the first raptor, pulled bosskilled first 4 raptors, then rogue MD pulled the other 3 from the back, and bang achievement done :-)

Comment by Ouro

Did this today as a Frost DK tank, with a shammy healer, and 3 generic DPS.

No huge strategy required, we pulled 3 raptors and dpsed them down to 10%, then I pulled the boss and the remaining 4 raptors in the enclosure together, tanking everything at once.

Just have your tank blow their cooldowns, used IBF and UA together, and popped Lichborne + trinket once those expired. Once those effects had ended, all the raptors had been killed and we just finished off dred.

Tremor totem helps considerably here.

Comment by Sinktinkler

Are you kidding? It's TOTALLY a reference to Elton John's single from 1975, "Better Off Dead." Elton John was surely the first person in history to come up with that phrase, and you can't prove me wrong.

Comment by Aeolyn

Did this today by pulling all the raptors and Dred. Our tank (Frost DK) just tanked everything and blew all his defensive cooldowns to defend himself. We had two Hunters (I'm Marks with talents for Volley; the other was Surv) spam AoE and that was enough to take all the raptors down before the boss got a chance to do anything scary. I did bring a Tenacity pet for Roar of Sacrifice (eats 30% of friendly target's incoming damage) but it probably wasn't necessary. We had a Holy Pally healing for whatever that may be worth.

We used PVP trinkets to pop out of Dred's fear; but by the time it got to that point all the raptors were dead anyways. We pulled and killed all seven just to be sure even though the achievement asked for six.

Comment by gazng

Can someone confirm that the raptors can be feared? If so having a lock can help

Comment by Khimmalgura

Actually group make up makes a real diffrence in all achievements just like this one. Before any strategy to think about, you must make a suitable group for current achievement. This is your first job before all.

you can have a good hunter to pull raptors one by one easily and fast enough just then nuke them all when druid get thier aggro.

you can have a feral druid in bear form to tank (and do good dps) to adds.

you can always have a shaman in your achievement party to benefit from his totems and bloodlust, they are always useful.

of course these classes are not essential for this one, but for some other nearly-impossible achievements, they become more reasonable with some certain setups.. gl and hf there...

Comment by Xyhin

We did this one last night. As a fury warrior, I swapped to Defensive stance and equipped my shield and I tanked the raptors fine. They don't hit too hard, and with Bloodthirst, my healer didn't have to babysit me too much, which freed him up to watch the tank. Raptors go down fast too; Dred only called out one raptor the entire time, we pulled all the others. In my observations, pulling them is the better tactic, because it's less damage to your MT when Dred fears him. The one he called got a couple hits off on the MT's back when Dred feared.

Comment by Nashraketh

Tried for this today, I was tanking as a prot warrior. Pulled Dred, and manually pulled the other raptors when they died. Slightly bugged, killed all the raptors, and then the lock in our group died somehow, maybe from Dred. When we downed him, everyone in the party got the achievement but him. So, don't die! :)

Comment by Zyrashana

A paladin tank's Holy Shield makes this trivial. HS shines against receiving a lot of fast, smaller hits, and that's exactly what happens here. I tanked this, boss+adds, as a prot pally with a moonkin in mostly blues & some epics healing in DPS gear with no issues at all. Admittedly my tank gear is mostly BiS items, but regardless of gear the best type of tank to bring for this if you're having trouble getting the achievement is a pally, especially one geared towards blocking stats.

Comment by Megoblix

As of today you can still get a bug which dosn't give you credit for the achievement. Rather annoying.

One of the raptors was stuck in a tree for part of the fight. that may have something to do with the odd behavior.

Comment by xxpanzer

Can anyone shed light on weather the adds respawn at all? poosibly after a soft reset?

Comment by EarthWindNFire

If you fail to kill the boss on the first attempt of this achievement you -CAN- go out of the instance and set it to normal than heroic. Thus leading to every trash mob respawning in the instance (the seven raptors in the pen).

Comment by Skuttponken

If you wanna do it the really easy way, kill the 7th raptor. Pull boss. Pull one raptor.. kill it and repeat 6 times.This can be done with any setup in the game and doesn't take a very good tank or healer. Have fun and good luck!

Comment by ar2ro

Did it today. We pulled Dred, killed all the raptors around him, then killed him. No one got the achievement. Seems still bugged.

Comment by Maribo

After 3.0.8 it's only required to kill either the 6 raptors or the Drakkari Scytheclaw. As stated in the achievement it's either 6 Drakkari Gutrippers OR the other one. A good trick is to pull the boss and then have a plate wearer run in and pull the Scytheclaw, nuke it down and then without killing the other raptors just nuke the boss down

Niaekd

Comment by Morroccoco

Just did this one. group make-up:Prot Warr Ret Pally Shadow Priest DK (dont know what spec he was)Holy Priest

All in Ulduar 10/25 gear, only slightly overkill but wth.

This is how we did it:1. Mark up the first 4 raptors.2. When Dred is at the back of the pen, run in and agro the raptors, no need to run all the way to the middle, simply TC the first 2 and use Heroic Throw & taunt to get the ones further back. 3. DPS the down to around 15%, at which point Dred should be on top of you, tank agro's and tanks Dred. 4. As soon as the tank has Dred the dps can finish off the 4 adds and then jump on Dred. We had one add die before Dred was pulled (dps was too good lol), so be careful.5. The tank then moved Dred further back so he could agro the other raptor's in the pen (we decided to kill them all just to be sure). If you do this be careful, if you go out of LoS of the healer you will most likely die unless your have Ulduar gear.

We actually had to stop the DPS twice so we could finish all the raptors before the boss died, not neccessary but we wanted to kill everything to be safe.

Comment by kgurnhill

Might be worth mentioning that, as long as Dred is alive and in combat it makes no differance if you kill the raptors one at a time or all at once! :)

Dont make the same mistake my old guild did ^_^

Just... make sure you tell the DPS to nuke raptors xD

Edit: I know 100% this is accurate, ive done it myself... so dont go downrating because you THINK im wrong...

Comment by Lucero

Saw a few posters above suggest that Dred has to call the raptors. I can't say if this was the case before some prior patch, but it certainly isn't the case now. I was druid tanking the encounter. I'm way overgeared for the place so I just ran in and pulled the boss plus the four closest raptors right off the bat. Told the dps to focus the raptors and stay off Dred because, as others have stated, it's really easy to kill him early with a good group. When those were dead I pulled boss to back and grabbed up the rest of the raptors.

Oh, we four-manned the achievement, as well as Oh Novos! and the rest of the heroic as one dps had to leave after Consumption Junction so just don't over-think it and stay on your toes.

Comment by osuracnaes

There's still something up with this. Killed six raptors during the fight but didn't get the achievement. We all stayed in their little pen area too. /sigh

Comment by Rogier

you have to kill the raptors BEFORE the boss.

Comment by Rogier

make sure you kill the adds BEFORE the boss or you will not get the achievement

Comment by pallylock

This achievement is easy I just grabbed dred and all the raptors blew my cool downs while the raptors got AoEed down then we killed dred like normal.

Comment by Ayuname

2 ways of doing this that i find the easies-

For lower geared groups - Kill the first raptor u come to as there are 7 in the pen. Pull him out of the pen and a little bit back down the way u cam a little bit so yer parallel to the pen, this helps with the fear. Dont panic if 1 or 2 raptors come with him just burn them down. Then just let yer tank hold aggro and dont dps him. Kill the raptors 1 by 1 as he calls them. Simple as pie and incredibly easy. Takes a couple of minutes or so.

For better geared groups - you can mount up. Run in a big circle grab the lot come out and mince the raptors down. Heavy AoE groups work a treat for this and preferably a Paladin tank for AoE tanking. Id recommend popping things like divine protection(50% damage reduction one) once u have gathered them all.

All in all its incredibly easy to do. Happy achieving all.

Comment by Thalia

It's sad that it still bugs out on some people... I am still not sure why. Anyway, I wrote a guide with summarized info and tips for this achievement, hope it helps:

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Comment by Velyanthe

Solo'd this today as an 85 BM hunter, shale spider as a pet. Pulled one raptor and killed it, then set pet on the boss and hit it a couple times. Used mend pet the whole time, and used one health potion, but may not have needed the potion. Spider held aggro, and I just set him onto one raptor at a time. Fairly easy, took a few minutes. Spider kept going down to 20-40% health.

As MM, crab would die after a while, so it didn't work out.

Comment by evsadin

4.2 - soloable as Blood DK easily.You can also pull the patrol's before the boss as well to count towards the 6 raptors

Comment by calwez

Could the name of the ach relate to Children of Bodom´s song "You´re Better off Dead?

Comment by Vensyas

- Wolves in the seal mode (passive) then order to attack Dred. - While Dred was busy with the wolves I zerged the raptors with hero, fire elemental and gliffed stoneclaw totem.- The bleed effect is pretty bad, so you will need to do it very fast. - Finished the achievement with 10% of HP.

Hope this lil guide help others shamans ;)

Comment by Iths

Kinda stress full as a Paladin but not hard at all make sure to pull 6 raptors and pop all CDs 20%def guardien wings and zelothry then kill all pop immun and heal then nuke big bad boss :)

Comment by MasterClydeswort

Pretty easy as a combat Rogue. Kill one raptor, sap another, apply Blade Flurry, pull Dred, then run and kill one or two raptors at a time while keeping Recuperate active, using other CDs as necessary.

Comment by smagasins

Easy to solo as a fury warrior. iLvL 384 just kill all the raptors and Vrush to gain HP back don't think i went below 90% hp

Comment by Zoyeng

For those soloing as well-geared 90:

I had to strip down gear to do this. The first time I tagged Dred, then started killing his little buddies. Without even hitting on him, he died before I was ready to kill him, and I had to reset the instance. (I'm guessing this was due to auto-attack, since I was purposeful in not using AoE actions.) Resetting will cause everything to respawn, so it's alright. I ended up stripping down to shirt, boots, and weapons (ultimately at iLVL 93/508-- haha). I probably could have done it with a bit more gear on, but I didn't want to take the chance.

Tag Dred, and if you're like me, go ahead and kill all 7 of the other raptors before finishing him off.

Easily soloable, as long as you strip down gear to not OP him. :)

Soloed as level 90 Fury Warrior, iLVL 508, Patch 5.3. 8/3/2013

Comment by Freiszcze

I'm wondering - if this is possible to solo now? Since i've beed kiteing this guy for minutes, and no raptor spawned. Do I need another player with me, or what?

Comment by JRPally66

OK just did this as a naked level 100. Damage not problem. I did as the comments said. I killed first raptor, waited till boss was at back, killed the first 3, engaged the boss, killed the other 3, then killed boss, no achievement, what did I do wrong?

Comment by snobahr

I'm a clueless-geared 92 frost mage, and I just solo'd this and got the achieve. I rode in on a ground mount, pulling everything in the pen, then once everything was aggro'd on me, I used Ice Nova to deal with the little lizards, and Ice Lanced the heck out of Dred. Achievement achieved.

Comment by Victorinou

There is no reason for stripping or anything, just pull everything without hitting or killing the green raptors (or drakkari gutrippers), then after you make the boss attack you (by standing close to him) kill all the green raptors WITHOUT KILLING THE BOSS, and then kill the boss.

Comment by Reigne

Today I soloed this as a Demon Hunter, though it's probably easily soloable with any class at level 100.1. Gather ALL raptors - ALIVE.2. ENGAGE boss / King Dred3. SINGLE TARGET each raptor down and immediately press/spam the Escape button.4. Rinse and repeat until all raptors are dead.5. Kill boss.Achievement complete.

You will auto attack and kill King Dred if you target him from him attacking you. Then you have to hop on another alt to try again, or wait until the dungeon is reset. I speak from experience from accidentally killing him.