A less than run-of-the-mill product. Not even fit for tourist. A fake Heini with a black coating outside some red clay, which came with a set of 3 cups. A fellow member here in Teachatter will smash it just by smelling it far away.

A beginner's pot, with so called Heini material. Too light by weight for the real deal. Hence the blue black color.

A master craftsmen made black iron sand heisha. Heavy on the hand like a good grade TiKwanYan (Ti means iron). Solid with good proportion.

Geez,Guess I still have much tuition to go when it comes to black clay/sand. I guess I got lucky to find what I think is a real Hei Ni pot. Tim, if you don't mind can you evaluate the three foot Hei Ni Shui Ping and let me know your opinion?

ImmortaliTEA wrote:Geez,Guess I still have much tuition to go when it comes to black clay/sand. I guess I got lucky to find what I think is a real Hei Ni pot. Tim, if you don't mind can you evaluate the three foot Hei Ni Shui Ping and let me know your opinion?

Take it slow Immortalitea. There is no rush at all.Where is the images for this SP? ~ T

Clay: Zhu Ni (As told by seller?).Size: 40 mlAge/Year: Modern- late 2000's.Walls: Extremely Thick!Pour: +/- 12 sec. Dribbles. Mediocre lid fit.Source: Purchased from a source in YixingTea Pairing: Taiwan Gaoshan, Green Tieguanyin, Light Roast TGY or Yan Cha.Info: I bought this teapot quite a while ago, before I had some decent knowledge about Zhu Ni and that most of it is something else trying to be sold as Zhu Ni unless it comes from 1960's or prior. The texture and color of the clay looks vastly different than the Hong Ni pots I have so I doubt that it is Hong Ni, although I could be wrong about that because there are multiple types of Hong Ni just as there are for most other clays. The one thing that does seem interesting is that it doesn't appear shiny on the exterior (signifying a possibility of it being lower than high fired), however, it still has one of the highest pitched sounds of any of my teapots including the high fired ones which really confuses me at this point. When it comes to making tea, this teapot makes some of the most clear, alive, and brilliant brews of lighter oolongs I have ever tried but the only problem is that the functionality is just as terrible as the craftsmanship in that it takes just over 12 seconds to completely empty and it dribbles which I think is caused by having too small an air hole in the lid. Any info or opinions on the clay or anything else about this tiny Shui Ping would be greatly appreciated!

TIM wrote:A less than run-of-the-mill product. Not even fit for tourist. A fake Heini with a black coating outside some red clay, which came with a set of 3 cups. A fellow member here in Teachatter will smash it just by smelling it far away.

A beginner's pot, with so called Heini material. Too light by weight for the real deal. Hence the blue black color.

A master craftsmen made black iron sand heisha. Heavy on the head like a good grade TiKwanYan (Ti means iron). Solid with good proportion.

So for that middle one Tim, the one that is too light by weight, what would you say the material is? And why is heini heavier? Just straight denser, or something to do with the mineral content (i.e. the clay is similar density to other clays, but it has speck on a denser mineral or some such)? Thanks!

Hey, don't be so obsessed with that clay , I'd personally stick to zi qie ni which is readily available and of less dubious quality as stated by chrl42 in post no 11:

This beast is 140mL (I wish it was a tad smaller though) and now dedicated to red tea. Fast and super smooth pour, no drips.

ImmortaliTEA wrote:...it dribbles which I think is caused by having too small an air hole in the lid. Any info or opinions on the clay or anything else about this tiny Shui Ping would be greatly appreciated!

That can be fixed. There is a thread buried somewhere in which this issue was raised and discussed. Sweet, if any of the forum detectives is able to dig it up.