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maybe it is like the secret ingredient in coca cola...i wonder if clem will be able to able to figure out exactly what they do to make it so beautiful...i'm typing this from a new Kubuntu 10.10 install and everything on here looks gorgeous There's something they add that gives it the magic touch...

I've read on some blogs that what ubuntu has that LMDE would need is the libcairo2 patches...if that is true, i hope Clem reads this and looks into that..

Also..i was curious, in LMDE, do you have access to the new Ubuntu Fonts that became the default in Ubuntu 10.10?Someone mentioned that you now have access to Mint 10 features, so i was wondering if ubuntu fonts was part of that...do you get that through debianupdates or through mint's own updates?

This was apparently my problem earlier, when I couldn't run the appearance changer. I ran fixfonts.sh again today, and now I can't run it again. The conky window is wonky. This is on an Asus EEE-PC 900. Removing the ~.gconf/desktop folder and restarting X fixes the problem. Something in the script is putting incorrect configuration information there.

I can't help but wonder (since originally Linux Mint is a derivative of Ubuntu) how likely it is that Mint would adopt the fontconfig files from Ubuntu.I replaced the /etc/fonts and the /usr/share/fonts folders by the ones available on Ubuntu 10.10 and the result is excellent.Does Mint have a policy in this regard?

If doing that gives you the ubuntu quality in the font rendering then hopefully, Clem will read this and implement it into LMDE

That's the way it should look (out of the box) one should not have to configure it on their own...mint is known for the out of box experience.... Ubuntu/Kubuntu has the best font rendering i have ever come across in linux distros...and the reason why the regular mint gnome and kde look great is because they are based on ubuntu...With direct debian, it needs to be added in...and that should be done by the mint developers rather then the users...

After spending some time using Kubuntu, the font rendering is a bit better than what I could get with LMDE. Now, I've made it just as good by installing a patched libcairo2 from http://download.tuxfamily.org/skinny/libcairo2-patched/ and followed these instructions to copy over missing font configuration files from my Kubuntu install to LMDE:

To avoid "color fringing" (AKA "rainbow blur"), you also have to enable LCD filtering. One way is to install Ubuntu's fontconfig-config package, which puts the needed settings in /etc/fonts/conf.d. Alternatively, see if you already have the following files in /etc/fonts/conf.avail:

If you don't have these files, either unpack the Ubuntu .deb file and copy them over, or create a /etc/fonts/local.conf file which sets "lcdfilter" to "lcddefault". This file is XML, so I'm unable to show it here - see ArchWiki for details.

after doing that...are you finding that it now matches the rendering of kubuntu? if it does, i hope Clem reads your post...ubuntu/kubuntu has the best rendering i have ever seen on linux and if he can get it to that quality on LMDE then it would be great...

craig10x wrote:after doing that...are you finding that it now matches the rendering of kubuntu? if it does, i hope Clem reads your post...ubuntu/kubuntu has the best rendering i have ever seen on linux and if he can get it to that quality on LMDE then it would be great...

By the way...with clem's announcement of the new package of updates coming out tomorrow for those of you who are using LMDE right now, one item mentioned is improved font rendering....I would love to see some feedback here and how it looks after you install this new package....I'd especially like to know if it looks like the ubuntu/kubuntu/or the mint editions that are based on them...Thanks

Oh yes...would also like to know if ubuntu fonts are included in the package since it updates you to Mint 10 (which has them available of course)...

In Appearance Preferences > Fonts, change the Application font from Ubuntu 11 to Sans 10. You could change Ubuntu 11 to Ubuntu 10 if you like those fonts. Then, Firefox will have more normal-sized fonts.