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2016-10-24 13:01:13Zhttps://c.ancestry.com/s/0/p/3/i/logo.gifKhersonska - Family History & Genealogy Message Boardhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/mb.ashx
175383rd Annual Ukrainian Genealogy Conference, Nov 4-5thhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/142/mb.ashx
3rd Annual Nashi Predky Fall Conference<br>Research Essentials: Combining the Basics with 21st century Technology<br>November 4th-5th, 2016<br>Ukrainian Cultural Center<br>135 Davidson Avenue. Somerset, NJ 08873<br><br>Online Registration: <a href="http://ukrhec.org/nashi-predky-conference" target="_blank">http://ukrhec.org/nashi-predky-conference</a><br><br>Join fellow researchers from Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maryland, North Carolina, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Nevada, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and Canada at this one-of-a-kind event. Nashi Predky is the only genealogical conference dedicated to Ukrainian research in the US!<br><br>The 3rd Annual Nashi Predky Fall Conference - Research Essentials: Combining the Basics with 21st century Technology - will be held at the Ukrainian Cultural Center located at 135 Davidson Avenue in Somerset, NJ. This conference features nationally known experts in Eastern European genealogy, and will span two days, including a Cyrillic handwriting workshop, opportunity for document translations, and nine lectures. On Friday evening, November 4th, participants can register from a choice of two options: a presentation on DNA entitled "Which atDNA test is right for you?" by Shellee Morehead, CG; or an appointment for assistance with document translation(s). The Cyrillic handwriting workshop led by Prof. Jonathan Shea, AG, has been filled.<br><br>The main day of the conference will be on Saturday, November 5th. Registration opens at 8am and a light continental breakfast will be available. The morning sessions start off with the presentation "I Found my Village! Now What?" by Julie Szczepankiewicz where she will suggest resources and strategies to help researchers find their ancestral village. "Now I Found It! What Does It Say?", a linguistic overview by Prof. Jonathan Shea, AG, examines various phonetic and grammatical features of the languages encountered in Eastern European research and attendees will work through the translations of sample documents.<br><br>After a buffet luncheon featuring ethnic food, the afternoon sessions offer a dual-track option to participants.<br><br>New to the conference in 2016!<br>The Nashi Predky Family History Group is proud to offer a dual-track afternoon of presentations. For those wanting to strengthen their research skills, the Basics Track offers "US Alien Registration Files" by Shellee Morehead, CG, "How to Locate Those Elusive Military Records for Ancestors who Served in the Austro-Hungarian Army" by Carl Kotlarchik, and "Finding Uncle Frank: Confirming the Identity of a U.S. Soldier Buried Under the Wrong Name" by Julie Szczepankiewicz.<br><br>The Technology Track features three presentations for those researchers wanting to add tools to their Genealogy Toolbox: "Using Polish Language Websites for Genealogical Research in Galicia (Halychyna)" by Prof. Jonathan Shea, AG, "Genetic Genealogy (DNA) Tools" by Shellee Morehead, CG and "UAGenealogy: Discovering Online Genealogy Resources" by Michelle Chubenko.<br><br>Take advantage of Early Bird pricing and save $10. Discount ends September 30th!<br><br>Please feel free to forward to anyone who might be interested.<br><br>-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+2016-10-24 13:01:13ZShell_NJhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/142/mb.ashxRe: Zaslavskyhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/30.43.42/mb.ashx
Hi <br><br>It seems that there was another brother called Henri Saslawsky. It was my grandfather. My grandfather was the youngest brother. he was born in 1902 in Kremenchouk. There was a sister called Mussia (or Moussia in french) <br><br>They left Kremenchouk in 1915. I think I have the passport of my grandfather. <br><br>How can I help you ?<br><br>2016-03-15 13:08:44Zhenri714http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/30.43.42/mb.ashxRe: Bodnarchuk from Stanislavhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/6.1/mb.ashx
I am sure Sally is spelt Sele in the census of 1911 in Humbolt Saskatchewan (Wishart) where Popadynecs lived, Nicholas and Tekla (Derkacz). Is Annie ?Derkacz (Kruk) still Living on Madison Ave. My mothers cousin! Who is your mother and father.2015-08-03 06:17:46Zadelemarchesehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/6.1/mb.ashxMichael Edward Kofman of Utica, NY 1943http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/39.1/mb.ashx
Michael is pictured in the 43-C Cadet, yearbook of the 43C training class at Bruce Field in Ballinger, Texas. He is a flight cadet. I'm not kin but thought this might help someone researching the KOFMAN family.2015-06-20 03:02:17Zdrbrownleehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/39.1/mb.ashxRe: MARKUSHEVICH,TANKELEVICH,DINEVICHhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/0.1/mb.ashx
I knew Tamara Markushevich from Kherson, she is about 60 y.o. May be her relatives are from there? Try to contact her via Facebook, she is from Kherson2015-01-20 17:16:25Zakhaskinhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/0.1/mb.ashxRe: ancestry search - Fahlmanhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/46.3/mb.ashx
my grandfather John Fahlman came from the Odessa region to Saskatchewan in 1893 so may have some connection2014-11-04 00:19:39Zdarryl_sabohttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/46.3/mb.ashxNashi Predky - Our Ancestors: 2014 Family History Group Conferencehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/141/mb.ashx
The Ukrainian Historical and Educational Center of New Jersey is proud to announce the details for the 2014 Conference on Saturday, October 25th.<br><br>** Online registration will begin in August. **<br><br>Наші Предки – Nashi Predky<br>Our Ancestors<br>2014 Family History Group Conference<br>8:30 AM - 4:30 PM<br>Ukrainian Cultural Center<br>135 Davidson Avenue. Somerset, NJ 08873<br>$55 ($45 by October 3)<br><br>• Galicia: An Introduction to the Austro-Hungarian Province<br>• Ukrainian Vital Records: Finding Them, Reading Them, Understanding Them<br>• The Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine in L’viv<br>• DNA and Eastern European Ancestry<br>• Q&amp;A Panel: Breaking Down Your Brick Wall Ancestor<br><br>featuring experts:<br>• Matthew Bielawa<br>• Angie Bush<br>• Michael Buryk<br>• Michelle Chubenko<br><br>The Ukrainian Historical and Educational Center of NJ<br><a href="http://www.UkrHEC.org/family-history-group" target="_blank">www.UkrHEC.org/family-history-group</a><br><a href="mailto://genealogy@UkrHEC.org">genealogy@UkrHEC.org</a><br>732-356-0090<br><br>-- Michelle Chubenko<br>"Our Ancestors -- Наші предки / Ukrainian Genealogy"<br><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/NashiPredky/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/NashiPredky/</a><br><a href="https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/107238252771720982783" target="_blank">https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/10723825277172098278...</a><br><br>Co-Coordinator, Family History Group<br>Ukrainian Historical &amp; Educational Center of NJ<br><a href="http://www.ukrhec.org/family-history-group" target="_blank">http://www.ukrhec.org/family-history-group</a> 2014-06-20 03:34:13ZShell_NJhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/141/mb.ashxRe: Kogan family inquiryhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
I just went over to the facebook group to try and figure out a way to add you and it looks like one of the more active cousins (Caitlin from Wales) added you on Sunday. Hope you'll join in. The hunt is half the fun sometimes 2014-02-12 02:11:38Zaross265http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Kogan family inquiryhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
I've posted to our Facebook area - like I think I said - the area was started by overseas cousins that all go back to Moses/Moishe and his two (or three wives). In the past few days I've connected with the wife of a second or third cousin from the side of the family that married into the Krougliakoff/Cooks so I've ported most of my information over to Ancestry.com (seems to be the location of choice). I'll send you an invite to what will soon look like a family tree - it ported over without pictures and without some of the entries but it's a first stab.2014-02-12 02:01:27Zaross265http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Kogan family inquiryhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Hello again Anne. Thanks so much for keeping these emails coming! With your Kogan's/Krougliakoff's coming from Kherson, there must be a connection between our families in some way. As far as MY Yiddish...I was raised Catholic by my Irish/Dutch mother and so will defer to your expertise in the matter of names. You're right; Bertha and Bassa are very similar and so could be the same person. The surname Jany, makes no sense to me. I've tried to discover where it would be from without much success. About being Jewish, my father was never religious but told us that he was raised Russian Orthodox and even supposedly sang as a boy soprano in the Cathedral in St. Petersburg where he was born. This could have very well have been my grandparents effort to keep him and them safe in the climate of the times. And even though she knew that both of her parents-in-law were buried in a Jewish Cemetery on Staten Island, my mother, when told by my father that it was for expediency sake, chose to believe that they weren't of that faith. In doing the genealogy leg work, I found my grandparents wedding certificate and discovered that they were indeed Jewish...when I told her, my mother was a bit surprised! In reference to my great aunt Elizabeth, I'm not sure why that Joseph Kogan is listed as her husband. I'm pretty sure that that was the brother's name and that Santagano is her married and/or stage name. Her maiden name would have been Kogan of course. Really fascinating stuff, huh? Thanks again. If you find anything further out, please let me know.2014-02-09 04:26:59Zmsalamunovichhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Kogan family inquiryhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Quite something. My Yiddish is nonexistent but I know many (even up to my father's generation) have a Yiddish/jewish name and a regular name - Bertha and Bassa sound similar to me. Regardless,,I agree it is difficult (at best) to prove a link. One of my non-U.S. cousins has paid a researcher in Kherson and we've got some older data on the facebook site but I think it only goes back to around 1875 - perhaps a little earlier.<br><br>I just took a tour around ancestry.com and found the naturalization records for Elizabeth Santagano. That paperwork says when she arrived in the U.S. she was separated from her husband "Joseph Kogan". At least two of Moishe/Moses Kroughliakoff's other children (that stayed in Russia were actors). <br><br>If you're on Facebook, perhaps you'd like to join the group to see what we can find out? I also need to ask my Uncle about Zinovi Kogan (brother of my late Aunt Effie who remembered). My mother is the third child but is the youngest and it didn't ring any bells.2014-02-08 05:36:48Zaross265http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Kogan family inquiryhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx
One more bit of information; I now know that my grandfather's brother's name was Joseph and his sister was indeed Elizabeth. She was a singer and emigrated to the U.S. Her married/professional name (not sure which it was) was Santigano.2014-02-07 14:43:46Zmsalamunovichhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Kogan family inquiryhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2.1.1/mb.ashx
Sorry...ignore the comment about the marriage certificate being my grandparent's son's. I got myself confused...I'm sure you understood what I was trying to say! 2014-02-07 14:41:02Zmsalamunovichhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Kogan family inquiryhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2.1/mb.ashx
Hi. Yes the other account you mentioned is mine...not sure why! But in any case, I didn't get the other message so thanks for posting again. Your information is very interesting! My grandfather, Zinovy Kogan, was a violinist and conductor and his wife was Nadezhda Zaslavsky. How is your Zinovi related to the Krougliakoff part of the family? The thing is, I'm not sure about the Krouliakoff name (this is how I understand my father spelled it,) and it's authenticity in my family. On my grandfather Zinovy's death certificate, his mother's name is listed as Bertha Krouliakoff and his father was Solomon Kogan however on my grandparents (so their son's) marriage certificate, his parents are listed as Bassa Jany and Solomon Kogan. I haven't been able to verify either name properly as both are listed on official documents and to my knowledge, he only had one wife. This is why I'm very curious to see if we do truly have a connection. Thanks!2014-02-07 14:39:16Zmsalamunovichhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2.1/mb.ashxRe: Kogan family inquiryhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2/mb.ashx
Hello - I posted over in another query in response to MSalamunovi7528 - is that also you? My post referred to the Krougliakoff/Kruglyakov line from Kherson to which the Kogans are related. My post was:<br><br>My local (U.S.) cousin and I are going thru family stories and I'm trying to put them into genealogical perspective. My Aunt Effie used to always say that the only person in the family with true musical talent was Zinovi Kogan. We are from the Krougliakoff line which, given your post, makes me understand the connection. My great-grandfather was Boris Krougliakoff which was changed upon entry to the U.S. to Bernard Cook. His siblings landed in many countries and one of the French cousins (descended from Boris Krougliakoff's sister) has started a Facebook group for us. Scattered throughout (mostly) UK, USA, and France. 2014-02-07 05:25:04Zaross265http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.2/mb.ashxRe: russian relativeshttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/30.46/mb.ashx
My local (U.S.) cousin and I are going thru family stories and I'm trying to put them into genealogical perspective. My Aunt Effie used to always say that the only person in the family with true musical talent was Zinovi Kagan. We are from the Krougliakoff line which, given your post, makes me understand the connection. My great-grandfather was Boris Krougliakoff which was changed upon entry to the U.S. to Bernard Cook. His siblings landed in many countries and one of the French cousins (descended from Boris Krougliakoff's sister) has started a Facebook group for us. Scattered throughout (mostly) UK, USA, and France. 2014-02-03 03:19:38Zaross265http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/30.46/mb.ashxAng: Re: Research center in Moldova(Kishinev) and Tiraspolhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/61.1.1/mb.ashx
Hello, <br>I was wonder if you have taken contact with the synagogue in Kishinev and asked some rabby there. They use to know where to advice you. The reason i am thinking that is that each boy who born make their Britt Milah wich most have been noted somewhere?<br>I am looking too after more information about my grand mother´s mother who also born in 1890 in Kishinev. I am seerking everywhere and use all the link, adress and will this next summer there to a tripp back to my ancestry to find out more there. <br>Obs! you remember about the progrom in 1903 in Kishinev so many of them had to move away.<br>I will keep in touch if i find out more information to help you too. <br>Let us hope for the best.2014-01-01 14:40:51Zmyrealidentity69http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/61.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Zaslavsky relativeshttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/30.43.41.1.2.1/mb.ashx
Neal,<br><br>Thanks for your query. While my Zaslavsky's did come from the Ukraine, they were from Nikolaev, not Kiev and as far as I know, they all stayed there or moved to St. Petersburg, Russia. <br><br>Meredith2013-11-30 02:39:35Zmsalamunovichhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/30.43.41.1.2.1/mb.ashxRe: Zaslavsky relativeshttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/30.43.41.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Sorry, they did not to my knowledge come from Elizabetgrad. They were from Nikolaev as far as I know.2013-11-30 02:37:20Zmsalamunovichhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/30.43.41.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Kogan family inquiryhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.1.1/mb.ashx
Thank you very much for your prompt and informative reply. I had most of the information you've included but didn't know anything about Kherson the place and it's history so thank you for that.<br>Best wishes.2013-11-26 20:41:58Zmsalamunovichhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Kogan family inquiryhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.1/mb.ashx
Name: Zindyy Kogan<br>Arrival Date: 28 Aug 1931<br>Age: 54 Years 5 Months<br>Birth Date: abt 1877<br>Birthplace: Khersoy<br>Birth Country: Russia<br>Gender: Male<br>Race/Nationality: Russian<br> <br>Port of Arrival: Detroit, Michigan<br>Accompanied by: Wife Haeline S<br>Departure Contact: Brother Joseph<br> <br>Microfilm Roll Number: M1478_40<br><br>Canadian Crossing Records<br>===============================<br><a href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&amp;new=1&amp;MSAV=0&amp;msT=1&amp;gss=angs-c&amp;gsfn=Zinoviy&amp;gsln=Kogan&amp;uidh=0xo&amp;pcat=40&amp;h=761352&amp;recoff=7&amp;db=DetroitPL&amp;indiv=1&amp;ml_rpos=30" target="_blank">http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&amp;new=1&...</a><br>===============================<br>===============================<br><a href="http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0012_0_11090.html" target="_blank">http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_000...</a><br><br><a href="http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/9297-kherson" target="_blank">http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/9297-kherson</a><br><br><a href="http://www.yadvashem.org/untoldstories/database/index.asp?cid=243" target="_blank">http://www.yadvashem.org/untoldstories/database/index.asp?ci...</a><br><br>RECORDS:<br><br>Locality/Town: KHERSON<br>Raion/Region: KHERSON<br>Oblast/District: KHERSON<br>Country: UKRAINE<br>Archive Name: STATE ARCHIVE OF KHERSON OBLAST<br>Archive Locale: KHERSON<br>Archive Type: ARCHIVES<br>Document Type: MARRIAGE<br>Year List: 1836-1839; 1844; 1850-1856; 1859-1867<br>Fond/Opis/Delo: 113/1/2, 6, 9, 13, 15, 22, 24, 26, 29, 33, 38, 42, 43, 45, 51, 53, 55<br><br>Locality/Town: KHERSON<br>Raion/Region: KHERSON<br>Oblast/District: KHERSON<br>Country: UKRAINE<br>Archive Name: STATE ARCHIVE OF KHERSON OBLAST<br>Archive Locale: KHERSON<br>Archive Type: ARCHIVES<br>Document Type: BIRTH<br>Year List: 1836-1840; 1850-1859; 1861-1865<br>Fond/Opis/Delo: 113/1/1, 5, 8, 12, 14, 21, 28, 37, 40, 44, 47, 50<br><br>Locality/Town: KHERSON<br>Raion/Region: KHERSON<br>Oblast/District: KHERSON<br>Country: UKRAINE<br>Archive Name: STATE ARCHIVE OF KHERSON OBLAST<br>Archive Locale: KHERSON<br>Archive Type: ARCHIVES<br>Document Type: KAHAL/JEWISH COMM.<br>Year List: 1902-1910<br>Fond/Opis/Delo: 282; 295/1/2 <br><br>Locality/Town: KHERSON<br>Raion/Region: KHERSON<br>Oblast/District: KHERSON<br>Country: UKRAINE<br>Archive Name: STATE ARCHIVE OF KHERSON OBLAST<br>Archive Locale: KHERSON<br>Archive Type: ARCHIVES<br>Document Type: TAX LIST<br>Year List: 1850-1860<br>Fond/Opis/Delo: 22/1/4 <br>====================<br>====================<br>There are still a few Kogan - Kohan living in Kherson today:<br><br>516544 Коган Вм 28 Армии Ул., дом 2/А, кв. 118<br>295992 Коган Иг Ильича Ул., дом 93, кв. 77<br>236523 Коган Ми Димитрова Ул., дом 15, кв. 58<br>267282 Коган Ми Арктический 2 Пер., дом 18, кв. 25<br>277988 Коган Ои Фортус Ул., дом 75/А<br>220534 Коган Са Московская Ул., дом 3, кв. 58<br>511018 Коган Та Калинина Ул., дом 67<br>321277 Коган Юа Крымская Ул., дом 6<br>2013-11-26 20:02:36ZMighthelphttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140.1/mb.ashxKogan family inquiryhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140/mb.ashx
I am searching for information about my father, Boris Kogan's family. He was born May 18, 1904 in St. Petersburg to Zinovy (or Solomon?) Kogan and Nadezhda (Nadine) Zaslavsky. Zinovy was born in Kherson, Ukraine in 1877 to Solomon Kogan and Jany Bassa and Nadezhda in Nikolaev, Ukraine in 1879. They were married in 1901 in Wiesbaden, Germany and then went to St. Petersburg. Zinovy was a professional violinist and orchestral conductor and they emigrated to the U.S. in 1928/29. I believe he had one sister, Elizabeth who was a singer and who also emigrated to the U.S. and a brother but I don't know his name or what became of him. If any of this sounds familiar to anyone, please contact me. Thank you.2013-11-26 00:37:23Zmsalamunovichhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/140/mb.ashxRe: nikolayev, ukrainehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/137.2.1/mb.ashx
this should be very helpful. thank you so much.2013-10-19 04:50:42Zalicepthompson55http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/137.2.1/mb.ashxRe: nikolayev, ukrainehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/137.2/mb.ashx
Alice, <br>Nikolaev is a smaller city, located about 100km east of Odessa, which grew in the 18th 19th centuries as the administrative center for Russian Imperial Fleet on the Black Sea, and because of its location and growth became a junction for military and trade. Because of the commercial port that grew with the navy, Nikolaev became a magnet for foreign entrepreneurs, attracting business people and professionals (doctors, tutors, etc) from abroad. It is now known as Mykolaiv (Ukranian) as opposed to Nikolaev (Russian) - read more here: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykolaiv" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykolaiv</a> I am pretty certain that this is what you are looking for. 2013-10-04 19:40:23ZMarianna00http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/137.2/mb.ashxRe: Jernogkohttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1.1.2.2/mb.ashx
Sorry, can not get to see it since I'm not an Ancestry subscriber.2013-09-24 05:02:07ZZlaticaBecahttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1.1.2.2/mb.ashxRe: Jernogkohttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx
Arrival manifest.<br>2013-09-24 04:30:11Zleslie_slapehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Jernogkohttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx
Oh please reply! My grandfather's house burnt down! We lost everything! I only have DNA.2013-09-24 04:25:35Zleslie_slapehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1.1.2.1/mb.ashxRe: Jernogkohttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1.1.2/mb.ashx
Check here: <a href="http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/61064451/person/32067482439/mediax/1?pgnum=1&amp;pg=0&amp;pgpl=pid|pgNum" target="_blank">http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/61064451/person/32067482439/m...</a><br>2013-09-24 04:23:48Zleslie_slapehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1.1.2/mb.ashxRe: Jernogkohttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
For arrival, check my information on Elko and Sophia Karausch. 2013-09-24 04:19:59Zleslie_slapehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Jernogkohttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1.1.1/mb.ashx
My great-grandfather's manifest covered the whole family, even though it was in error. The certificate covered everyone. It said that my great-grandfather entered through New York even though I now know they entered through Nova Scotia. I can only assume my great-grandfather's lack of English made him agree to everything. Attached is my great-grandfather's citizenship papers. He signed them with an X. My email is <a href="mailto://leslie.slape@gmail.com">leslie.slape@gmail.com</a>.2013-09-24 04:17:57Zleslie_slapehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Jernogkohttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1.1/mb.ashx
Leslie<br>Did the children naturalized? You might check into the church baptismal record of the US born children. I don't have an Ancestry subscription to view anything like an arrival manifest or border crossing. <br>Can you attach an arrival manifest? <br>2013-09-23 23:33:28ZZlaticaBecahttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1.1/mb.ashxRe: CHORNEYKO - JERNOGKO? - KARAUSCH - KRAUSCHhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/139.1/mb.ashx
to translit your ancestral surnames into Cyrillic:<br><a href="http://ua.translit.cc/" target="_blank">http://ua.translit.cc/</a><br>to hear pronunciation <a href="http://ivona.com" target="_blank">http://ivona.com</a> <br>Did Elko [Ilya] and Agafia [Sophia] come together? Do you have their arrival manifest?<br>Kherson is a big city so is that where they came from?<br>Cherson, Kherson seat of a first-order administrative division <br> 46°38' N 32°36' E <br><br>E M U G <br><br>Ukraine <br>279.1 miles SSE of Kyyiv 50°26' N 30°31' E <br> 2013-09-23 23:28:42ZZlaticaBecahttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/139.1/mb.ashxCHORNEYKO - JERNOGKO? - KARAUSCH - KRAUSCHhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/139/mb.ashx
My great-grandparents emigrated from Kherson in 1903. They sailed from Hamburg on the Adria, landed in Nova Scotia, came to Winnipeg and then south to North Dakota, where they homesteaded near Lehr. According to the census forms, their native language was Russian, unlike their neighbors, who were mostly Germans from Russia.<br>Their names as recorded in the Lehr and Fredonia Golden Jubiliee books are Elko and Sophia (Jernogko) Krausch, and the headstones read Krausch. Census and immigration documents show the surname spelled Karausch. Elko was a nickname for Ilya, also spelled Ilia on immigration documents.<br>Immigration documents also show Sophia's first name as Agafia. Her maiden name might actually be Chorneyko. This is a hunch, not an established fact. Children were Ekaterina, Ewdokia, Marie, Ivan and Irina. In America, they were Katie, Donia, Mary, John and Irene. John was my grandfather. A fire destroyed John's home when my father was very small. This probably destroyed valuable records and mementos.<br>This is all the information I have. I would love to know more about my great-grandparents.2013-09-23 22:39:51Zleslie_slapehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/139/mb.ashxKarausch familyhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/138/mb.ashx
My great-grandparents emigrated from Kherson in 1903. They sailed from Hamburg on the Adria, landed in Nova Scotia, came to Winnipeg and then south to North Dakota, where they homesteaded near Lehr. According to the census forms, their native language was Russian, unlike their neighbors, who were mostly Germans from Russia.<br>Their names as recorded in the Lehr and Fredonia Golden Jubiliee books are Elko and Sophia (Jernogko) Krausch, and the headstones read Krausch. Census and immigration documents show the surname spelled Karausch. Elko was a nickname for Ilya, also spelled Ilia on immigration documents.<br>Immigration documents also show Sophia's first name as Agafia. Her maiden name might actually be Chorneyko. This is a hunch, not an established fact. Children were Ekaterina, Ewdokia, Marie, Ivan and Irina. In America, they were Katie, Donia, Mary, John and Irene. John was my grandfather. A fire destroyed John's home when my father was very small. This probably destroyed valuable records and mementos.<br>This is all the information I have. I would love to know more about my great-grandparents.2013-09-23 18:07:20Zleslie_slapehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/138/mb.ashxRe: Jernogkohttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1/mb.ashx
My great-grandmother's maiden name supposedly was Jernogko. I have long suspected this is a sound-alike because this name is a dead end. I think it might actually have been Chorneyko or something similar.<br>My great-grandparents were Ilya (nickname Elko) and Agafia Karaush (or Karausch). They emigrated from Kherson in 1903 and farmed in North Dakota near Lehr until they died. Agafia changed her name to Sophie in America. They took a steamship from Hamburg to Halifax, took the train to Winnipeg, then went across the border. <br>The children who traveled with them were Ekaterina, 15; Ewdokia, 11; Marya, 9; Ivan, 4; and Irina, 11 months. In America they were known as Katie, Donia, Mary, John and Irene. These children were born in North Dakota: Lydia, William, Joseph and Annie. John Krausch (as it later came to be spelled) was my grandfather.<br>Are you a relative? 2013-09-18 14:48:35Zleslie_slapehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/73.1/mb.ashxRe: nikolayev, ukrainehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/137.1/mb.ashx
Name: Nathan Schwartz<br>Departure Date: 28 Jun 1900<br>Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883<br>Age: 17<br>Gender: männlich (Male)<br>Marital Status: ledig (Single)<br>Residence: Kischineff<br>Ethnicity/Nationality: Russland (Russian)<br>Occupation: Zigarrenarbeiter<br> <br>Ship Name: Columbia<br>Shipping Line: Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)<br>Shipping Clerk: Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)<br>Ship Type: Dampfschiff<br>Accommodation: Zwischendeck<br>Ship Flag: Deutschland<br>Port of Departure: Hamburg<br>Port of Arrival: Southampton; Cherbourg; New York<br> <br>Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 111<br>Page: 1437<br>Microfilm Roll Number: K_1765<br>Household Members: <br>Name Age<br>Nathan Schwartz 17<br>========================<br><br>Nathan emigrated from Kishinev &gt; Bessarabia. <br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bessarabian_Jews" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bessarabian_Jews</a><br><br><a href="http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Romania/KishinevVRs.htm" target="_blank">http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Romania/KishinevVRs.htm</a><br><br>NIKOLAI RUSSIA??? Map here will clarify all geography questions you may have.<br><a href="http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/mykolayiv/history%20&amp;%20geography.htm" target="_blank">http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/mykolayiv/history%20&amp;%2...</a><br><br>Jewish Records for Nykolayev have been filmed by LDS:<br><a href="https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/1838584?availability=Family%20History%20Library" target="_blank">https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/1838584?availability...</a><br><br>pождения = birth <br>бракосочетания = marriage<br>разводы = divorce<br>смерти = death<br>2013-07-20 18:13:20ZMighthelphttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/137.1/mb.ashxnikolayev, ukrainehttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/137/mb.ashx
my father's birth certificate showed HIS father's place of birth as "NIKOLAI RUSSIA." dad said his father was born and grew up near odessa. grandfather: nathan morris schwartz born in dec. 1883. father: simon schwartz, b. 2-10-1919 in bridgeport ct. i believe i found nathan on a ship out of hamburg in july 1900. he listed his city of residence as krishinev russia. he listed a cousin in ny who paid his fare: raphael preis.<br><br>my question is how do i know which nikolai/nikolayev town my grandfather came from? there's one in poland (mikolow?)and one in ukraine. any suggestions?2013-07-20 03:52:10Zalicepthompson55http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/137/mb.ashxRe: russian relativeshttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/30.45.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Dear Jean, <br><br>My paternal grandfather, Meyer Zaslavsky, emigrated from Kiev to New York in the 1890s. He had a twin sister who settled in London and they had a brother who remained in Kiev. At the request of my children and grandchildren I am attempting to construct a genealogical tree of our ancestors, so I write to ask you: Would you by any chance be a grandson (or other relation) of the Zaslavsky who remained in Kiev? <br><br>Meyer had only one child (my father Alexander) with my grandmother Ida Rubinstein before they split up. But he had sons from an earlier marriage. Are you related to them?<br><br>With best regards from your putative cousin,<br>Neal<br><br>2013-06-09 22:10:48ZNZaslawhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/30.45.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Zaslavsky relativeshttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/30.43.41.1.2/mb.ashx
Dear Edwin, <br><br>So far I know very little — in fact, only the following.<br><br>My paternal grandfather, Meyer Zaslavsky, emigrated from Kiev to New York in the 1890s. He had a twin sister who settled in London and they had a brother who remained in Kiev. Does any of this ring a bell with things you may have been told about your family?<br><br>With best regards from your putative cousin,<br>Neal<br><br>2013-06-09 22:05:36ZNZaslawhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/30.43.41.1.2/mb.ashxRe: HOCH, LIEBERMANN, SCHECHTER, WEBERhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/3.1/mb.ashx
I too am looking for direct decendants of the Lieberman family. All I know about my Mother's side of the family is that my grandmother Ceil was a Lieverman and her mother Anna Lieberman was left to raise 5 children. Two of the children died early and the other three went on.<br><br>Does Henry or Anna "Annie" Lieberman ring a bell?<br><br>Susan Novak Backer2013-04-07 07:06:11Zmishpoohahttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/3.1/mb.ashxRe: Lapides in Bobrovy Kut?http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.3/mb.ashx
Hallo: M R Schumacher:<br><br>Ich habe eine Tabellenkalkulation auf der Steinhauer mit mindestens 700-800 Datensätze drauf und der Schumacher, ich habe eine Datei mit fast 150 Seiten von Datensätzen. So habe ich viele Informationen, die Ihnen mit Ihrem Schumacher und der Steinhauer.<br><br>Viele Schumachers heiratete der Steinhauer und einer meiner BRT Großväter Brüder auch ein Steinhauer auch.<br><br>Wir sollten Vettern einigen freundlichen 2. bis 4. Vettern oder so etwas wie das sein.<br><br>Alle Informationen, die ich habe, Sie erhalten alles, was Sie tun müssen ist zu Fragen.<br><br>Aber es wäre besser, direkt bei mir per <a href="mailto://e-MailBrian.Schatz@SaskTel.net">e-MailBrian.Schatz@SaskTel.net</a><br><br>Vielen Dank<br><br>Brian2013-02-07 15:33:54Zbrianschatzhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.3/mb.ashxRe: Lapides in Bobrovy Kut?http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Hi Mario:<br><br>My email address is <a href="mailto://brian.schatz@sasktel.net">brian.schatz@sasktel.net</a><br><br>What I am interested in is photos of any houses or businesses that still remain there.<br><br>I do have a map of Bobrowyj Kut showing the non Jewish property owners names on the properties they owned. The Jewish prpoerty owners are not shown. If my memory is correct it shows a Jewish section (area) on the map. I have to find my map again its upstairs in with all my other stuff so it may take a bit to find.<br><br>I found it not much shown on the Jewish population Weisspapier Scholom (Jude), Judenfriedhof and Riebentraeger (Jude) is all that is shown.<br><br>Brian<br><br>2013-02-05 16:05:03Zbrianschatzhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Lapides in Bobrovy Kut?http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Bobrobyy Kut, is a small village on the River INGULS, 180 kilometers northwest of Odessa. In front of the municipal office is a monument to those killed by the Nazis, with all the names. There are currently no Judios.Estan the ruins of the synagogue. It was an agricultural colony of Jews only since 1807, came from Belarus. In a 1810 census appears someone my name. I have pictures send me your e-mail and I'll send them. I live in Argentina, South America I speak Spanish. Mario2013-02-05 15:35:48Zmariopisarencohttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Lapides in Bobrovy Kut?http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Hi Mario:<br><br>Was there anything left of the village of Bobrowyj Kut??? I heard that it was destroyed during WWII. Just wondering if you took any photos???<br><br>All I know the Lutheran and Catholic families that went to Boborowyj Kut were Musterwirtes (sample farmers). They were asked by the Russian government to go there to show the Jewish farmers how to become better farmers. <br><br>I really don't know anything of the Jewish population there. <br><br>Brian 2013-02-05 15:06:27Zbrianschatzhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Lapides in Bobrovy Kut?http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.2/mb.ashx
Hallo M R Schumacher:<br><br>Ich vergaß zu erwähnen, ich habe beide Schumacher recherchiert und Steinhauer's bei Boborowyj Kut in die Kirchenbücher von etwa 1860 bis 1885. Aber ich auch beide Familiennamen recherchiert, bevor sie nach Bobrowyj Kut von lutherischen Kirchenbücher von 1833-1885 ging.<br><br>Brian2013-02-05 14:53:30Zbrianschatzhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.2/mb.ashxRe: Lapides in Bobrovy Kut?http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Thank you very much, were Jews.2013-02-05 14:52:24Zmariopisarencohttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Lapides in Bobrovy Kut?http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx
Hallo Mario:<br><br>Ich kann Ihnen helfen, mit Ihrer Genealogie wenn Ihre Vorfahren lutherische und begrenzte Informationen wenn katholisch waren. Das ist, wenn sie in Bobrowyj Kut lebten. Jüdische kann ich Ihnen nicht helfen.<br><br>Pass auf dich auf<br><br>Brian2013-02-05 14:41:03Zbrianschatzhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Lapides in Bobrovy Kut?http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.2.2/mb.ashx
Hallo:<br><br>Meine Großmutter war Regine Schumacher und mein Großvater war Georg Schatz beide geb. Bobrowyj Kut. Ich bin auch mit der Steinhauer verwandt. In der Tat bewirtschaftet die meisten der Steinhauer aus Bobrowyj Kut und Zuerichtal, die in Kanada alle kamen in der Nähe meiner Großeltern-Farm.<br><br>Meine Großmutter BRT Regine Schumacher hatte 3 anderen Schwestern und ihre Familien, die in Kanada und eine Halbschwester kamen und ihre Familie, die nach Kanada kamen.<br><br>Ich habe die evangelisch-lutherischen Kirchenbücher von Bobrowyj Kut von ca. 1860-1885 getan. Ich habe auch eine Datei von einem Verwandten in Deutschland mit 86 Seiten, die über die Jahre von ca. 1900 bis 1942 auf Bobrowyj Kut und Zuerichtal umfasst die nicht jüdischen Familien. Ich habe auch eine Karte von beiden Orten.<br><br>Wir sollten irgendwie Zusammenhängen sehen wir beide Schumachers verbunden sind. Wer waren Ihre Eltern und Großeltern, nur ihre Namen ist alles was ich brauche, um den Link zu finden. Dann kann ich sagen, wie wir verbunden sind.<br><br>Ich habe auch alle Auswanderung Datensätze von Schumacher, Zuerichtal und Bobrowyj-Kut, geht zurück nach Deutschland während des zweiten Weltkrieges verlassen.Sie können mich per e-Mail direkt meine e-Mail-Adresse <a href="mailto://brian.schatz@sasktel.net">brian.schatz@sasktel.net</a> <br><br>Mein Deutsch ist nicht besonders gut, so ist dies eine computergenerierte-Nachricht. Ich kann irgendwie sagen, was ein Brief in Deutsch geht aber ich muss noch am Computer, um sicherzustellen, zu übersetzen.<br><br>Ich hoffe, bald von Ihnen zu hören.<br><br>Pass auf dich auf.<br><br>Brian2013-02-05 14:31:27Zbrianschatzhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.2.2/mb.ashxRe: Lapides in Bobrovy Kut?http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx
Hallo:<br><br>Meine Großmutter war Regine Schumacher und mein Großvater war Georg Schatz beide geb. Bobrowyj Kut. Ich bin auch mit der Steinhauer verwandt. In der Tat bewirtschaftet die meisten der Steinhauer aus Bobrowyj Kut und Zuerichtal, die in Kanada alle kamen in der Nähe meiner Großeltern-Farm.<br><br>Meine Großmutter BRT Regine Schumacher hatte 3 anderen Schwestern und ihre Familien, die in Kanada und eine Halbschwester kamen und ihre Familie, die nach Kanada kamen.<br><br>Ich habe die evangelisch-lutherischen Kirchenbücher von Bobrowyj Kut von ca. 1860-1885 getan. Ich habe auch eine Datei von einem Verwandten in Deutschland mit 86 Seiten, die über die Jahre von ca. 1900 bis 1942 auf Bobrowyj Kut und Zuerichtal umfasst die nicht jüdischen Familien. Ich habe auch eine Karte von beiden Orten.<br><br>Wir sollten irgendwie Zusammenhängen sehen wir beide Schumachers verbunden sind. Wer waren Ihre Eltern und Großeltern, nur ihre Namen ist alles was ich brauche, um den Link zu finden. Dann kann ich sagen, wie wir verbunden sind.<br><br>Ich habe auch alle Auswanderung Datensätze von Schumacher, Zuerichtal und Bobrowyj-Kut, geht zurück nach Deutschland während des zweiten Weltkrieges verlassen.Sie können mich per e-Mail direkt meine e-Mail-Adresse <a href="mailto://brian.schatz@sasktel.net">brian.schatz@sasktel.net</a> <br><br>Mein Deutsch ist nicht besonders gut, so ist dies eine computergenerierte-Nachricht. Ich kann irgendwie sagen, was ein Brief in Deutsch geht aber ich muss noch am Computer, um sicherzustellen, zu übersetzen.<br><br>Ich hoffe, bald von Ihnen zu hören.<br><br>Pass auf dich auf.<br><br>Brian2013-02-05 14:30:57Zbrianschatzhttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashxRe: Lapides in Bobrovy Kut?http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.1/mb.ashx
Mi nombre es Mario Pisarenco, yo estube en Bobrovyy Kut hace un año, hablo español.<br><br>Mein Name ist Mario Pisarenco I Bobrovyy Kut war ich in einem Jahr, ich spreche Spanisch.<br><br><br><br>My name is Mario Pisarenco I Bobrovyy Kut i was in a year ago, I speak Spanish.2013-02-05 14:17:24Zmariopisarencohttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.eeurope.ukraine.khersonska/135.2.1.2.1.3.1/mb.ashx