that will be the journey funded by Saints fans for the last 6 years... so at least we now know that we can add Spiderman to the list of totally ungrateful wank3rs that have played for this great club. By all means want away mate, but why rubbish your fans like this... keep it to yourself and your agent

that will be the journey funded by Saints fans for the last 6 years... so at least we now know that we can add Spiderman to the list of totally ungrateful wank3rs that have played for this great club. By all means want away mate, but why rubbish your fans like this... keep it to yourself and your agentsteekeemcglue

Listening to TalkSport and it's all Saints. They are just saying that the reputation of our great club is in absolute tatters over this and they predict we will sink to the bottom without trace. I think it's inevitable...it's an absolute PR disaster of monumental proportions. Having said that, where is the loyalty from Morgan for where we've put him? Oh I forgot there isn't any. Now I don't believe a word any of our Board say.

Listening to TalkSport and it's all Saints. They are just saying that the reputation of our great club is in absolute tatters over this and they predict we will sink to the bottom without trace. I think it's inevitable...it's an absolute PR disaster of monumental proportions. Having said that, where is the loyalty from Morgan for where we've put him? Oh I forgot there isn't any. Now I don't believe a word any of our Board say.Saintade

im on the possitive side. thought players were going but hey ho, we got over the odds for them so no problem.

I think RK hs integrity. he wouldnt put up with this rubbish if he didnt know that in the end he will get a better squad.

But what do we read into this. Morgan obviously doesnt buy into the new vision or is it a case that he is angry becuase he is going to miss out on a years extra wages, to a tune of a million.
or so from spuds

you would have though that Krugger would have made sure morgan is happy before putting his ar$e on the line but if we are playing hard ball, then wow, watch the fireworks.

player who want to leave and cannot usually get their way and Krugger cannot lose face now.

interesting to see which ways this goes.

Tony for liberia made the assumption that morgan must have been happy or krugger wouldnt have made the statment.

that would have been true unless he made the assumption that the board has finally grown a pair.

im on the possitive side. thought players were going but hey ho, we got over the odds for them so no problem.
I think RK hs integrity. he wouldnt put up with this rubbish if he didnt know that in the end he will get a better squad.
But what do we read into this. Morgan obviously doesnt buy into the new vision or is it a case that he is angry becuase he is going to miss out on a years extra wages, to a tune of a million.
or so from spuds
you would have though that Krugger would have made sure morgan is happy before putting his ar$e on the line but if we are playing hard ball, then wow, watch the fireworks.
player who want to leave and cannot usually get their way and Krugger cannot lose face now.
interesting to see which ways this goes.
Tony for liberia made the assumption that morgan must have been happy or krugger wouldnt have made the statment.
that would have been true unless he made the assumption that the board has finally grown a pair.popper

Morgan ..... who the F£&@ do u think you are, you have been paid well, given an opportunity, under contract, now u have posted on Twitter and made yourself look a FOOL. Totally disrespectful to the fans and the club who support you. SHAME ON YOU.

Morgan ..... who the F£&@ do u think you are, you have been paid well, given an opportunity, under contract, now u have posted on Twitter and made yourself look a FOOL. Totally disrespectful to the fans and the club who support you. SHAME ON YOU.Mattyboysaints

The attitude of some of our players is absolutely diabolical , whether is broken promises or greed they seem to think they tweet or say what they want and they will get it .

Time for Ralph and useLES Reed to grow some f##king balls and put them in their place

Stamp your feet Morgan like my six year old daughter .
You were many fans choice for captain but now I'm not do sure .
The attitude of some of our players is absolutely diabolical , whether is broken promises or greed they seem to think they tweet or say what they want and they will get it .
Time for Ralph and useLES Reed to grow some f##king balls and put them in their placesaintand266

Morgan Schneiderlin...... you are a professional footballer, now F@*ing act like one. Poxitino and Totton..ham don't have any money so can't buy you. But...we have and lots of it. Keep your trap shut Knuckle down and join the Ronald Revolution.

Morgan Schneiderlin...... you are a professional footballer, now F@*ing act like one. Poxitino and Totton..ham don't have any money so can't buy you. But...we have and lots of it. Keep your trap shut Knuckle down and join the Ronald Revolution.deepheat

To be fair, unrolled now Morgan has conducted himself well. We all know its Lovren that should have caught this bullet. I imagine he is feeling pretty deflated about the mass departures like the rest of us. I firmly believe that he will get on and do his job and get over it in time.

To be fair, unrolled now Morgan has conducted himself well. We all know its Lovren that should have caught this bullet. I imagine he is feeling pretty deflated about the mass departures like the rest of us. I firmly believe that he will get on and do his job and get over it in time.Jesus_02

saintand266 wrote:
Stamp your feet Morgan like my six year old daughter .

You were many fans choice for captain but now I'm not do sure .

The attitude of some of our players is absolutely diabolical , whether is broken promises or greed they seem to think they tweet or say what they want and they will get it .

Time for Ralph and useLES Reed to grow some f##king balls and put them in their place

Excuse the grammar mistakes had a few beers and I'm seething with the attitude of these high paid ( let's be honest) little work so called professionals .

[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote:
Stamp your feet Morgan like my six year old daughter .
You were many fans choice for captain but now I'm not do sure .
The attitude of some of our players is absolutely diabolical , whether is broken promises or greed they seem to think they tweet or say what they want and they will get it .
Time for Ralph and useLES Reed to grow some f##king balls and put them in their place[/p][/quote]Excuse the grammar mistakes had a few beers and I'm seething with the attitude of these high paid ( let's be honest) little work so called professionals .saintand266

popper wrote:
im on the possitive side. thought players were going but hey ho, we got over the odds for them so no problem.

I think RK hs integrity. he wouldnt put up with this rubbish if he didnt know that in the end he will get a better squad.

But what do we read into this. Morgan obviously doesnt buy into the new vision or is it a case that he is angry becuase he is going to miss out on a years extra wages, to a tune of a million.
or so from spuds

you would have though that Krugger would have made sure morgan is happy before putting his ar$e on the line but if we are playing hard ball, then wow, watch the fireworks.

player who want to leave and cannot usually get their way and Krugger cannot lose face now.

interesting to see which ways this goes.

Tony for liberia made the assumption that morgan must have been happy or krugger wouldnt have made the statment.

that would have been true unless he made the assumption that the board has finally grown a pair.

So another huge faux pas then.

[quote][p][bold]popper[/bold] wrote:
im on the possitive side. thought players were going but hey ho, we got over the odds for them so no problem.
I think RK hs integrity. he wouldnt put up with this rubbish if he didnt know that in the end he will get a better squad.
But what do we read into this. Morgan obviously doesnt buy into the new vision or is it a case that he is angry becuase he is going to miss out on a years extra wages, to a tune of a million.
or so from spuds
you would have though that Krugger would have made sure morgan is happy before putting his ar$e on the line but if we are playing hard ball, then wow, watch the fireworks.
player who want to leave and cannot usually get their way and Krugger cannot lose face now.
interesting to see which ways this goes.
Tony for liberia made the assumption that morgan must have been happy or krugger wouldnt have made the statment.
that would have been true unless he made the assumption that the board has finally grown a pair.[/p][/quote]So another huge faux pas then.Clever Dick

Grow Up Morgan, you have a contract and are in a position most people old kill to be in.

Would kill to be in.....

He should be flattered we want him more than Luke Shaw

[quote][p][bold]insider1234[/bold] wrote:
Who exactly is he hoping for sympathy from?
Grow Up Morgan, you have a contract and are in a position most people old kill to be in.[/p][/quote]Would kill to be in.....
He should be flattered we want him more than Luke Shawinsider1234

This whole saga beggars belief.
Kruger has gone on national radio and stated that MS is not for sale.
Great!
Finally some good news.
Surely to god the player would have known about this and presumably ok, but no.
We the fans find out before he does.
Now MS is behaving like a brat but above all, Kruger has made a monumental balls up by trying to appease us.
The whole thing stinks.

This whole saga beggars belief.
Kruger has gone on national radio and stated that MS is not for sale.
Great!
Finally some good news.
Surely to god the player would have known about this and presumably ok, but no.
We the fans find out before he does.
Now MS is behaving like a brat but above all, Kruger has made a monumental balls up by trying to appease us.
The whole thing stinks.BarnetSaint

Get rid and quick! Need more than 3 players in,more like 7 needed.also I heard from number of sites that one of the signings will be a youth player of arsenal and only on load,dreadful work.it makes me really want to be in league one or championship as we had such fun season and not being in the press for all the wrong reasons!!! We r just an average championship team that will yo yo from time to time ,coyr

Get rid and quick! Need more than 3 players in,more like 7 needed.also I heard from number of sites that one of the signings will be a youth player of arsenal and only on load,dreadful work.it makes me really want to be in league one or championship as we had such fun season and not being in the press for all the wrong reasons!!! We r just an average championship team that will yo yo from time to time ,coyrSussex Jay

It's amazing, but not surprising, that the PFA do not educate players into honouring their contracts!! And the Premier League itself stands by and watches this carnage! Fair Play rules my @rse!! Truly pathetic.

It's amazing, but not surprising, that the PFA do not educate players into honouring their contracts!! And the Premier League itself stands by and watches this carnage! Fair Play rules my @rse!! Truly pathetic.batesieboy

BigBugBuzzz wrote:
Enough is enough! Good the club finally stands up to these arshole players! Play, ****!

No MOVE and no Captains Job for Spider - but lots of stick from the terraces - the worm has turned and trying to grow a backbone. LOL

[quote][p][bold]BigBugBuzzz[/bold] wrote:
Enough is enough! Good the club finally stands up to these arshole players! Play, ****![/p][/quote]No MOVE and no Captains Job for Spider - but lots of stick from the terraces - the worm has turned and trying to grow a backbone. LOLThe Rise of The Foot Soldier.

Destroyed in what way Morgan? Its like the relationship with your Wife being destroyed because she goes on record as saying you're a top bloke and that she wants to continue to be married to you instead of cheating on you. What a joke, trying to engineer the move and behaving like an idiot. WHAT a shame after such a great season last term.

I've had enough to be honest, wish we would just sell the lot of them and put out the U21s. (Which we may have to anyway). Its ok to want away but do it in the right way - Not on Twitter.

Destroyed in what way Morgan? Its like the relationship with your Wife being destroyed because she goes on record as saying you're a top bloke and that she wants to continue to be married to you instead of cheating on you. What a joke, trying to engineer the move and behaving like an idiot. WHAT a shame after such a great season last term.
I've had enough to be honest, wish we would just sell the lot of them and put out the U21s. (Which we may have to anyway). Its ok to want away but do it in the right way - Not on Twitter.Saintmatt7

Here we go again. Just another **** up ! You would gave thought they would have spoke to the players first wouldn't you. Bloody shambles.
I wonder where this going to as Kruger will lose some face if this goes pear shaped. However we should make Spider clear that he won't be allowed to go and that's it. Need to make a stand sometime ! I wonder what all the happy clappers are saying now .

Here we go again. Just another **** up ! You would gave thought they would have spoke to the players first wouldn't you. Bloody shambles.
I wonder where this going to as Kruger will lose some face if this goes pear shaped. However we should make Spider clear that he won't be allowed to go and that's it. Need to make a stand sometime ! I wonder what all the happy clappers are saying now .Chapperall

Another player with an appalling attitude, and the thing is it's not like hes joining a team that will be winning trophies like the others, it's to join Tottenham or should I say Pochettino.
If he does go then it's another player like Lallana like Lovren that won't be missed, however it would still be great to see such a consistent performer stay.

Another player with an appalling attitude, and the thing is it's not like hes joining a team that will be winning trophies like the others, it's to join Tottenham or should I say Pochettino.
If he does go then it's another player like Lallana like Lovren that won't be missed, however it would still be great to see such a consistent performer stay.SaintSherman

I am shocked at the way these saints players have acted and reacted. I don't care what was said behind closed doors to whom and when. All I want is a show of loyalty and gratitude from players who are employed by southampton FC. I didn't hear of any of them turning down the pay increase when they signed new contract extensions. If they wanted true glory they should have stayed and forced saints into the champions league. Instead they have chased the money whilst highlighting European football as the reason. These players were good players for us last season not GREAT. INDEED IT IS 6 YEARS OF FANTASTIC SAINTS JOURNEY DESTROYED. NOT BY SAINTS BUT BY PLAYERS GREED.

I am shocked at the way these saints players have acted and reacted. I don't care what was said behind closed doors to whom and when. All I want is a show of loyalty and gratitude from players who are employed by southampton FC. I didn't hear of any of them turning down the pay increase when they signed new contract extensions. If they wanted true glory they should have stayed and forced saints into the champions league. Instead they have chased the money whilst highlighting European football as the reason. These players were good players for us last season not GREAT. INDEED IT IS 6 YEARS OF FANTASTIC SAINTS JOURNEY DESTROYED. NOT BY SAINTS BUT BY PLAYERS GREED.hamblesaint

Well he is certainly angry about something, but he didn't exactly say it was because of not being able to move, perhaps he is just venting his feelings about the whole situation, as a lot of people are.

Well he is certainly angry about something, but he didn't exactly say it was because of not being able to move, perhaps he is just venting his feelings about the whole situation, as a lot of people are.N Ireland Saint

BarnetSaint wrote:
This whole saga beggars belief.
Kruger has gone on national radio and stated that MS is not for sale.
Great!
Finally some good news.
Surely to god the player would have known about this and presumably ok, but no.
We the fans find out before he does.
Now MS is behaving like a brat but above all, Kruger has made a monumental balls up by trying to appease us.
The whole thing stinks.

Wow hadn't thought that he may have found out this way. Also I have been thinking about Lovren. I have been assuming that he had been tapped up when he said that he was upset about not being informed about the 20m offer. But as the club haven't made a complaint to the FA its more plausable that 20m was his release clause. We also had the situation where Lallana didn't get a reply to calls, and emails. I am wondering if the board are not doing thier best by these players...just a thought probably wrong

[quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote:
This whole saga beggars belief.
Kruger has gone on national radio and stated that MS is not for sale.
Great!
Finally some good news.
Surely to god the player would have known about this and presumably ok, but no.
We the fans find out before he does.
Now MS is behaving like a brat but above all, Kruger has made a monumental balls up by trying to appease us.
The whole thing stinks.[/p][/quote]Wow hadn't thought that he may have found out this way. Also I have been thinking about Lovren. I have been assuming that he had been tapped up when he said that he was upset about not being informed about the 20m offer. But as the club haven't made a complaint to the FA its more plausable that 20m was his release clause. We also had the situation where Lallana didn't get a reply to calls, and emails. I am wondering if the board are not doing thier best by these players...just a thought probably wrongJesus_02

Get rid of all the jumped up prima donna spoilt little **** . Who the **** do they think they are ! They join a club as nobodies and are happy to sign a contract , then as soon as they think they are superstars they wanna leave !!!! Too much too soon . Thats the problem . You can poke the premier league , im finished with it .

Get rid of all the jumped up prima donna spoilt little **** . Who the **** do they think they are ! They join a club as nobodies and are happy to sign a contract , then as soon as they think they are superstars they wanna leave !!!! Too much too soon . Thats the problem . You can poke the premier league , im finished with it .gman209

hamblesaint wrote:
I am shocked at the way these saints players have acted and reacted. I don't care what was said behind closed doors to whom and when. All I want is a show of loyalty and gratitude from players who are employed by southampton FC. I didn't hear of any of them turning down the pay increase when they signed new contract extensions. If they wanted true glory they should have stayed and forced saints into the champions league. Instead they have chased the money whilst highlighting European football as the reason. These players were good players for us last season not GREAT. INDEED IT IS 6 YEARS OF FANTASTIC SAINTS JOURNEY DESTROYED. NOT BY SAINTS BUT BY PLAYERS GREED.

The problem is that he has seen others doing this Lallana and Lovren and they both got their own way . The problem we have now is who is going to back down! If Kruger does he will totally lose face . This is a real mess driven by greed by the agents and player

[quote][p][bold]hamblesaint[/bold] wrote:
I am shocked at the way these saints players have acted and reacted. I don't care what was said behind closed doors to whom and when. All I want is a show of loyalty and gratitude from players who are employed by southampton FC. I didn't hear of any of them turning down the pay increase when they signed new contract extensions. If they wanted true glory they should have stayed and forced saints into the champions league. Instead they have chased the money whilst highlighting European football as the reason. These players were good players for us last season not GREAT. INDEED IT IS 6 YEARS OF FANTASTIC SAINTS JOURNEY DESTROYED. NOT BY SAINTS BUT BY PLAYERS GREED.[/p][/quote]The problem is that he has seen others doing this Lallana and Lovren and they both got their own way . The problem we have now is who is going to back down! If Kruger does he will totally lose face . This is a real mess driven by greed by the agents and playerChapperall

Grow up Morgan. You are under contract therefore you play or ****** rot in the under 21's. What has this game come to where they dictate what goes on... Thank god I am not in charge, I would fine you 6 months wages... You were full of beans signing a long term contract.. Face facts that what a contract is. Time to honour it you disloyal mother hubbard

Grow up Morgan. You are under contract therefore you play or ****** rot in the under 21's. What has this game come to where they dictate what goes on... Thank god I am not in charge, I would fine you 6 months wages... You were full of beans signing a long term contract.. Face facts that what a contract is. Time to honour it you disloyal mother hubbardSally Hamilton Original

Is there one player that has been with us for a few years that is happy and contented? i was feeling happier and more content after Ralph"s statement seems like Ralph did"nt get Morgans thoughts on the matter so from Morgans tweet what affiliation he had with saints has been destroyed(Morgans own words) oh what a lovely life being a saint till death i thought Spider would be a good captain not sure he has the heart for it now Fonte is supposedly unhappy so not him Cork oh no he has"nt to my knowledge been offered a new contract cant think of anyone else JWP if he"s a starter plus he does"nt give in will the last person please turn off the lights at the stadium we cant afford the electric

Is there one player that has been with us for a few years that is happy and contented? i was feeling happier and more content after Ralph"s statement seems like Ralph did"nt get Morgans thoughts on the matter so from Morgans tweet what affiliation he had with saints has been destroyed(Morgans own words) oh what a lovely life being a saint till death i thought Spider would be a good captain not sure he has the heart for it now Fonte is supposedly unhappy so not him Cork oh no he has"nt to my knowledge been offered a new contract cant think of anyone else JWP if he"s a starter plus he does"nt give in will the last person please turn off the lights at the stadium we cant afford the electricbuckie

rawcask wrote:
He should be fined. Be a professional and keep any negative comments to himself or confront the management. I say fine him! Les Reed should play hardball.

Should learn football first.

[quote][p][bold]rawcask[/bold] wrote:
He should be fined. Be a professional and keep any negative comments to himself or confront the management. I say fine him! Les Reed should play hardball.[/p][/quote]Should learn football first.Jesus_02

Sussex Jay wrote:
Get rid and quick! Need more than 3 players in,more like 7 needed.also I heard from number of sites that one of the signings will be a youth player of arsenal and only on load,dreadful work.it makes me really want to be in league one or championship as we had such fun season and not being in the press for all the wrong reasons!!! We r just an average championship team that will yo yo from time to time ,coyr

NO GET RID and QUICK ...

This has happened too often with too many of our Players and we have been left with a Bottom 10 Premiership side with looking over our shoulder to try and avoid relegation - and it will not be easy next season.

The BIGGEST issue is getting Quality Players in - We know we need to strengthen at CB - ideally 2 for cover and competition - another Number 1 Keeper - Winger - Cover for Top striker - LB etc

Letting Spider and JRod (Top Goal Scorer) is NOT and WILL NEVER be an Option - unless SFC want an automatic buy to the Championship or commit suicide as a Club.

The SFC worm has turned and trying to grow a backbone LOL

[quote][p][bold]Sussex Jay[/bold] wrote:
Get rid and quick! Need more than 3 players in,more like 7 needed.also I heard from number of sites that one of the signings will be a youth player of arsenal and only on load,dreadful work.it makes me really want to be in league one or championship as we had such fun season and not being in the press for all the wrong reasons!!! We r just an average championship team that will yo yo from time to time ,coyr[/p][/quote]NO GET RID and QUICK ...
This has happened too often with too many of our Players and we have been left with a Bottom 10 Premiership side with looking over our shoulder to try and avoid relegation - and it will not be easy next season.
The BIGGEST issue is getting Quality Players in - We know we need to strengthen at CB - ideally 2 for cover and competition - another Number 1 Keeper - Winger - Cover for Top striker - LB etc
Letting Spider and JRod (Top Goal Scorer) is NOT and WILL NEVER be an Option - unless SFC want an automatic buy to the Championship or commit suicide as a Club.
The SFC worm has turned and trying to grow a backbone LOLThe Rise of The Foot Soldier.

Latest on TalkSport is that they think the chairman's interview was just a front to get the most money for Schneiderlin they can. Interesting thought.
It's an interesting interview if you haven't heard it all on the TalkSport website, but difficult to believe him. Quotes like "Every penny of the money we've made will be reinvested in new players and wages" - may come back to bite Kruger...I'm keeping tabs on the spend and bet we don't spend anything like the money we've earned.

Latest on TalkSport is that they think the chairman's interview was just a front to get the most money for Schneiderlin they can. Interesting thought.
It's an interesting interview if you haven't heard it all on the TalkSport website, but difficult to believe him. Quotes like "Every penny of the money we've made will be reinvested in new players and wages" - may come back to bite Kruger...I'm keeping tabs on the spend and bet we don't spend anything like the money we've earned.Saintade

Sussex Jay wrote:
Get rid and quick! Need more than 3 players in,more like 7 needed.also I heard from number of sites that one of the signings will be a youth player of arsenal and only on load,dreadful work.it makes me really want to be in league one or championship as we had such fun season and not being in the press for all the wrong reasons!!! We r just an average championship team that will yo yo from time to time ,coyr

NO GET RID and QUICK ...

This has happened too often with too many of our Players and we have been left with a Bottom 10 Premiership side with looking over our shoulder to try and avoid relegation - and it will not be easy next season.

The BIGGEST issue is getting Quality Players in - We know we need to strengthen at CB - ideally 2 for cover and competition - another Number 1 Keeper - Winger - Cover for Top striker - LB etc

Letting Spider and JRod (Top Goal Scorer) is NOT and WILL NEVER be an Option - unless SFC want an automatic buy to the Championship or commit suicide as a Club.

The SFC worm has turned and trying to grow a backbone LOL

Mate, we've already committed suicide.

[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Sussex Jay[/bold] wrote:
Get rid and quick! Need more than 3 players in,more like 7 needed.also I heard from number of sites that one of the signings will be a youth player of arsenal and only on load,dreadful work.it makes me really want to be in league one or championship as we had such fun season and not being in the press for all the wrong reasons!!! We r just an average championship team that will yo yo from time to time ,coyr[/p][/quote]NO GET RID and QUICK ...
This has happened too often with too many of our Players and we have been left with a Bottom 10 Premiership side with looking over our shoulder to try and avoid relegation - and it will not be easy next season.
The BIGGEST issue is getting Quality Players in - We know we need to strengthen at CB - ideally 2 for cover and competition - another Number 1 Keeper - Winger - Cover for Top striker - LB etc
Letting Spider and JRod (Top Goal Scorer) is NOT and WILL NEVER be an Option - unless SFC want an automatic buy to the Championship or commit suicide as a Club.
The SFC worm has turned and trying to grow a backbone LOL[/p][/quote]Mate, we've already committed suicide.Saintade

rawcask wrote:
He should be fined. Be a professional and keep any negative comments to himself or confront the management. I say fine him! Les Reed should play hardball.

FINE Spider - Agreed !!

[quote][p][bold]rawcask[/bold] wrote:
He should be fined. Be a professional and keep any negative comments to himself or confront the management. I say fine him! Les Reed should play hardball.[/p][/quote]FINE Spider - Agreed !!The Rise of The Foot Soldier.

There is a volume of abuse on this thread against Spider and that is not surprising. However see things from his side. Like all of us he has seen the majority of his team mates allowed to leave although our wonderful ice hockey player stated from the start that "saints are not a selling club". But of course players one after the other have been allowed to go. So don't worry too much Spider on the basis of previous events you will soon be on your way out.

There is a volume of abuse on this thread against Spider and that is not surprising. However see things from his side. Like all of us he has seen the majority of his team mates allowed to leave although our wonderful ice hockey player stated from the start that "saints are not a selling club". But of course players one after the other have been allowed to go. So don't worry too much Spider on the basis of previous events you will soon be on your way out.spratt

And to think this cheese eating surrender monkey was being touted as our new captain. What a terrible role model. Never mind the fans that have given you their unconditional love and support for those 6 years. Pack up and **** off if you have that little respect for us. What sort of reaction were you possibly hoping to get to this outburst? Sympathy? Respect? You epitomise everything that is wrong with football at the top level.

And to think this cheese eating surrender monkey was being touted as our new captain. What a terrible role model. Never mind the fans that have given you their unconditional love and support for those 6 years. Pack up and **** off if you have that little respect for us. What sort of reaction were you possibly hoping to get to this outburst? Sympathy? Respect? You epitomise everything that is wrong with football at the top level.hdsaint

Never sent a tweet in my life or used it. No idea why Morgan would be so angry. The clubs supporters voted him player of the season a couple of years back. To lose 5 players from a team of the calibre we have is almost unheard of in one go. Even in the Premier League. We need a core of established players to stay. That is obvious. We need to shut up shop on the exodus. If wages are a major problem then discuss with Morgan; after all we now have plenty of money.

One thing sending a Tweet like this won't do is gain any support of the supporters. If you thought that Morgan you are mistaken.

Never sent a tweet in my life or used it. No idea why Morgan would be so angry. The clubs supporters voted him player of the season a couple of years back. To lose 5 players from a team of the calibre we have is almost unheard of in one go. Even in the Premier League. We need a core of established players to stay. That is obvious. We need to shut up shop on the exodus. If wages are a major problem then discuss with Morgan; after all we now have plenty of money.
One thing sending a Tweet like this won't do is gain any support of the supporters. If you thought that Morgan you are mistaken.saintsfan76

Sussex Jay wrote:
Get rid and quick! Need more than 3 players in,more like 7 needed.also I heard from number of sites that one of the signings will be a youth player of arsenal and only on load,dreadful work.it makes me really want to be in league one or championship as we had such fun season and not being in the press for all the wrong reasons!!! We r just an average championship team that will yo yo from time to time ,coyr

NO GET RID and QUICK ...

This has happened too often with too many of our Players and we have been left with a Bottom 10 Premiership side with looking over our shoulder to try and avoid relegation - and it will not be easy next season.

The BIGGEST issue is getting Quality Players in - We know we need to strengthen at CB - ideally 2 for cover and competition - another Number 1 Keeper - Winger - Cover for Top striker - LB etc

Letting Spider and JRod (Top Goal Scorer) is NOT and WILL NEVER be an Option - unless SFC want an automatic buy to the Championship or commit suicide as a Club.

The SFC worm has turned and trying to grow a backbone LOL

Mate, we've already committed suicide.

TRUE - but Saints Fans can bet on Relegation at 11/2 latest price and bet on a liverpool win in a few weeks to make money and recoup some of the Season Ticket losses that cannot and WILL NOT be refunded.

LEGAL ACTION REQUIRED.

If only the SFC worm BOARD had tried to grow a backbone weeks ago - and really tried to make this Club one of the TOP 8 in the Country instead of a mediocre Provincial Club and Number 2 for seating capacity in the South.

[quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Sussex Jay[/bold] wrote:
Get rid and quick! Need more than 3 players in,more like 7 needed.also I heard from number of sites that one of the signings will be a youth player of arsenal and only on load,dreadful work.it makes me really want to be in league one or championship as we had such fun season and not being in the press for all the wrong reasons!!! We r just an average championship team that will yo yo from time to time ,coyr[/p][/quote]NO GET RID and QUICK ...
This has happened too often with too many of our Players and we have been left with a Bottom 10 Premiership side with looking over our shoulder to try and avoid relegation - and it will not be easy next season.
The BIGGEST issue is getting Quality Players in - We know we need to strengthen at CB - ideally 2 for cover and competition - another Number 1 Keeper - Winger - Cover for Top striker - LB etc
Letting Spider and JRod (Top Goal Scorer) is NOT and WILL NEVER be an Option - unless SFC want an automatic buy to the Championship or commit suicide as a Club.
The SFC worm has turned and trying to grow a backbone LOL[/p][/quote]Mate, we've already committed suicide.[/p][/quote]TRUE - but Saints Fans can bet on Relegation at 11/2 latest price and bet on a liverpool win in a few weeks to make money and recoup some of the Season Ticket losses that cannot and WILL NOT be refunded.
LEGAL ACTION REQUIRED.
If only the SFC worm BOARD had tried to grow a backbone weeks ago - and really tried to make this Club one of the TOP 8 in the Country instead of a mediocre Provincial Club and Number 2 for seating capacity in the South.The Rise of The Foot Soldier.

7saint7 wrote:
All he said was his amazing journey at the club had been &quot;DESTROYED"
He's right . Look at what Fat Cat and co have done to this club in a matter of weeks.

Yee of little faith

[quote][p][bold]7saint7[/bold] wrote:
All he said was his amazing journey at the club had been "DESTROYED"
He's right . Look at what Fat Cat and co have done to this club in a matter of weeks.[/p][/quote]Yee of little faithIanRC5

N Ireland Saint wrote:
Well he is certainly angry about something, but he didn't exactly say it was because of not being able to move, perhaps he is just venting his feelings about the whole situation, as a lot of people are.

Certainly a strange tweet when you re-read it. Surely the journey would be over if he left anyway? Maybe he has been told he is leaving in Jan like it or not. Or as discussed on talksport its just a game to get more money for him and he doesn't want to go! TBH nothing would suprise me now!

[quote][p][bold]N Ireland Saint[/bold] wrote:
Well he is certainly angry about something, but he didn't exactly say it was because of not being able to move, perhaps he is just venting his feelings about the whole situation, as a lot of people are.[/p][/quote]Certainly a strange tweet when you re-read it. Surely the journey would be over if he left anyway? Maybe he has been told he is leaving in Jan like it or not. Or as discussed on talksport its just a game to get more money for him and he doesn't want to go! TBH nothing would suprise me now!Jesus_02

steekeemcglue wrote:
that will be the journey funded by Saints fans for the last 6 years... so at least we now know that we can add Spiderman to the list of totally ungrateful wank3rs that have played for this great club. By all means want away mate, but why rubbish your fans like this... keep it to yourself and your agent

Don't think I will ever take badge kissing very seriously ever again.

[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote:
that will be the journey funded by Saints fans for the last 6 years... so at least we now know that we can add Spiderman to the list of totally ungrateful wank3rs that have played for this great club. By all means want away mate, but why rubbish your fans like this... keep it to yourself and your agent[/p][/quote]Don't think I will ever take badge kissing very seriously ever again.Positively4thStreet

Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider & JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.

Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider & JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.CharlieOxbridge

Sussex Jay wrote:
Get rid and quick! Need more than 3 players in,more like 7 needed.also I heard from number of sites that one of the signings will be a youth player of arsenal and only on load,dreadful work.it makes me really want to be in league one or championship as we had such fun season and not being in the press for all the wrong reasons!!! We r just an average championship team that will yo yo from time to time ,coyr

NO GET RID and QUICK ...

This has happened too often with too many of our Players and we have been left with a Bottom 10 Premiership side with looking over our shoulder to try and avoid relegation - and it will not be easy next season.

The BIGGEST issue is getting Quality Players in - We know we need to strengthen at CB - ideally 2 for cover and competition - another Number 1 Keeper - Winger - Cover for Top striker - LB etc

Letting Spider and JRod (Top Goal Scorer) is NOT and WILL NEVER be an Option - unless SFC want an automatic buy to the Championship or commit suicide as a Club.

The SFC worm has turned and trying to grow a backbone LOL

Mate, we've already committed suicide.

TRUE - but Saints Fans can bet on Relegation at 11/2 latest price and bet on a liverpool win in a few weeks to make money and recoup some of the Season Ticket losses that cannot and WILL NOT be refunded.

LEGAL ACTION REQUIRED.

If only the SFC worm BOARD had tried to grow a backbone weeks ago - and really tried to make this Club one of the TOP 8 in the Country instead of a mediocre Provincial Club and Number 2 for seating capacity in the South.

With the Sale of Goods Act, you can get your money back on your season ticket until 1 minute before kick off in the first game. Go on then....no-one will, because we just can't believe anything and that's why it's so painful.

[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Sussex Jay[/bold] wrote:
Get rid and quick! Need more than 3 players in,more like 7 needed.also I heard from number of sites that one of the signings will be a youth player of arsenal and only on load,dreadful work.it makes me really want to be in league one or championship as we had such fun season and not being in the press for all the wrong reasons!!! We r just an average championship team that will yo yo from time to time ,coyr[/p][/quote]NO GET RID and QUICK ...
This has happened too often with too many of our Players and we have been left with a Bottom 10 Premiership side with looking over our shoulder to try and avoid relegation - and it will not be easy next season.
The BIGGEST issue is getting Quality Players in - We know we need to strengthen at CB - ideally 2 for cover and competition - another Number 1 Keeper - Winger - Cover for Top striker - LB etc
Letting Spider and JRod (Top Goal Scorer) is NOT and WILL NEVER be an Option - unless SFC want an automatic buy to the Championship or commit suicide as a Club.
The SFC worm has turned and trying to grow a backbone LOL[/p][/quote]Mate, we've already committed suicide.[/p][/quote]TRUE - but Saints Fans can bet on Relegation at 11/2 latest price and bet on a liverpool win in a few weeks to make money and recoup some of the Season Ticket losses that cannot and WILL NOT be refunded.
LEGAL ACTION REQUIRED.
If only the SFC worm BOARD had tried to grow a backbone weeks ago - and really tried to make this Club one of the TOP 8 in the Country instead of a mediocre Provincial Club and Number 2 for seating capacity in the South.[/p][/quote]With the Sale of Goods Act, you can get your money back on your season ticket until 1 minute before kick off in the first game. Go on then....no-one will, because we just can't believe anything and that's why it's so painful.Saintade

Saintade wrote:
Listening to TalkSport and it's all Saints. They are just saying that the reputation of our great club is in absolute tatters over this and they predict we will sink to the bottom without trace. I think it's inevitable...it's an absolute PR disaster of monumental proportions. Having said that, where is the loyalty from Morgan for where we've put him? Oh I forgot there isn't any. Now I don't believe a word any of our Board say.

Because TalkSport is the source of definitive fact, isn't it?

[quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote:
Listening to TalkSport and it's all Saints. They are just saying that the reputation of our great club is in absolute tatters over this and they predict we will sink to the bottom without trace. I think it's inevitable...it's an absolute PR disaster of monumental proportions. Having said that, where is the loyalty from Morgan for where we've put him? Oh I forgot there isn't any. Now I don't believe a word any of our Board say.[/p][/quote]Because TalkSport is the source of definitive fact, isn't it?InsideOutCat

A disappointing reaction but I am sure he will think better of it in time. What most of the press conveniently overlook is the fact that the beautiful game has been systematically corrupted by the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, MuFC, Chelsea etc. aided by those who have put themselves in place and are supposed to govern it for the benefit of all, FIFA, UEFA and the FA. In any other situation there would be a widespread outcry about how the fair play rules have been bastardised by the likes of these bodies and teams but the media sits quietly by I am sure that in time a truth will emerge about backhanders to sections of the press. If anyone had the interests of the British game at heart they should bring in rules that ensured existing debt is properly taken account of in the fair play rules, mandatory spending on player development and penalties for fielding more than 5 non-British players backed by a fine per player per game and I mean a sizeable fine. Then were would Mourinhio and Wenger be. Do not fear for the Saints they have done things properly and still have a fantastic group of academy players to fall back on backed up by spending from these events. Do fear for the beautiful game that is being strangled to death by the 'big teams' the corrupt or inept regulators and a compliant media.

A disappointing reaction but I am sure he will think better of it in time. What most of the press conveniently overlook is the fact that the beautiful game has been systematically corrupted by the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, MuFC, Chelsea etc. aided by those who have put themselves in place and are supposed to govern it for the benefit of all, FIFA, UEFA and the FA. In any other situation there would be a widespread outcry about how the fair play rules have been bastardised by the likes of these bodies and teams but the media sits quietly by I am sure that in time a truth will emerge about backhanders to sections of the press. If anyone had the interests of the British game at heart they should bring in rules that ensured existing debt is properly taken account of in the fair play rules, mandatory spending on player development and penalties for fielding more than 5 non-British players backed by a fine per player per game and I mean a sizeable fine. Then were would Mourinhio and Wenger be. Do not fear for the Saints they have done things properly and still have a fantastic group of academy players to fall back on backed up by spending from these events. Do fear for the beautiful game that is being strangled to death by the 'big teams' the corrupt or inept regulators and a compliant media.IanRC5

Maybe now Saints fans (the ones who have been ripping into the owner and the board); can see what kind of problems that they 've been dealing with...... PLAYER POWER!. I dont get what I want, so i'll throw a tantram. ''My parents did n't get me the bike I wanted'' so I tell my mates, ''they're a right pair of tight ********s.'' It's getting to the stage where every time I listen to a modern day footballer, not only do I see a guy who's besotted with money and full of greed, has an over inflated ego and a toal disrespect for his employers who bend over backwards to keep him happy, but a guy who could n't be honest with people if his life depended on it. It's not just MS.......98% of them are like it....say something one minute , do something completely different the next; and some poor sods got to try and deal with them.

Maybe now Saints fans (the ones who have been ripping into the owner and the board); can see what kind of problems that they 've been dealing with...... PLAYER POWER!. I dont get what I want, so i'll throw a tantram. ''My parents did n't get me the bike I wanted'' so I tell my mates, ''they're a right pair of tight ********s.'' It's getting to the stage where every time I listen to a modern day footballer, not only do I see a guy who's besotted with money and full of greed, has an over inflated ego and a toal disrespect for his employers who bend over backwards to keep him happy, but a guy who could n't be honest with people if his life depended on it. It's not just MS.......98% of them are like it....say something one minute , do something completely different the next; and some poor sods got to try and deal with them.GHamilton

Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".

Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".Costa Baz

I said in an earlier post that I hoped Morgan and J-Rod were happy with the club's newfound backbone. Now we know that at least one of them is not. By going public with his unhappiness, Morgan is clearly trying to force the club's hand in the manner of headless Lovren and primadonna Lallana. He is probably being advised to do this by his mercenary mates, the undearly departed. Now is the time to stand strong and for Ralph to stick to his guns. If not, we might as well put up the white flag and let the hyenas rip into what remains of the club. Fine Schneiderlin for starters and slap a ban on the Twitter tw*t from tweeting any more.

I said in an earlier post that I hoped Morgan and J-Rod were happy with the club's newfound backbone. Now we know that at least one of them is not. By going public with his unhappiness, Morgan is clearly trying to force the club's hand in the manner of headless Lovren and primadonna Lallana. He is probably being advised to do this by his mercenary mates, the undearly departed. Now is the time to stand strong and for Ralph to stick to his guns. If not, we might as well put up the white flag and let the hyenas rip into what remains of the club. Fine Schneiderlin for starters and slap a ban on the Twitter tw*t from tweeting any more.cotswoldsaint

BarnetSaint wrote:
This whole saga beggars belief.
Kruger has gone on national radio and stated that MS is not for sale.
Great!
Finally some good news.
Surely to god the player would have known about this and presumably ok, but no.
We the fans find out before he does.
Now MS is behaving like a brat but above all, Kruger has made a monumental balls up by trying to appease us.
The whole thing stinks.

And you know for a fact it went like that do you? Or are you prepared to jump through any hoop rather than admit the board have dune something right?

[quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote:
This whole saga beggars belief.
Kruger has gone on national radio and stated that MS is not for sale.
Great!
Finally some good news.
Surely to god the player would have known about this and presumably ok, but no.
We the fans find out before he does.
Now MS is behaving like a brat but above all, Kruger has made a monumental balls up by trying to appease us.
The whole thing stinks.[/p][/quote]And you know for a fact it went like that do you? Or are you prepared to jump through any hoop rather than admit the board have dune something right?InsideOutCat

Clever Dick wrote:
And there I was thinking pantomime season began in December!!!

Oh no it doesn't

It's behind you!

[quote][p][bold]lymicherry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote:
And there I was thinking pantomime season began in December!!![/p][/quote]Oh no it doesn't[/p][/quote]It's behind you!Chapperall

Finally the board throw down the gauntlet and the truth comes out. It's the players who are manufacturing this exodus more than anyone. I haven't heard one complaint from any leaving player about leaving Southampton, in fact they were over the moon about it. Even Luke Shaw congratulated Lovren on Twitter, saying "see you soon" and finished with a wink emote. After all the positive things even the WUM's had to say about keeping Schneiderlin and not selling him, and now people are saying get rid of him lol. Not happy about it, but we do need to get rid of the deadwood and start again. What is the point of keeping players who won't be giving 100% because they want to be elsewhere?

Finally the board throw down the gauntlet and the truth comes out. It's the players who are manufacturing this exodus more than anyone. I haven't heard one complaint from any leaving player about leaving Southampton, in fact they were over the moon about it. Even Luke Shaw congratulated Lovren on Twitter, saying "see you soon" and finished with a wink emote. After all the positive things even the WUM's had to say about keeping Schneiderlin and not selling him, and now people are saying get rid of him lol. Not happy about it, but we do need to get rid of the deadwood and start again. What is the point of keeping players who won't be giving 100% because they want to be elsewhere?KiwiSaint74

CharlieOxbridge wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider &amp; JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.

If Spider and JRod leave - then Ralph Krueger will have no creditability like Les Reed and that will be a MASSIVE VOTE of NO CONFIDENCE in him personally and the Board.

I think it is fair to say that RK and his reputation as Chairman is on the line.

If the Players DO NOT STAY and PLAY this Season and honour their contracts - then it is a resigning matter for the Chairman.

[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider & JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.[/p][/quote]If Spider and JRod leave - then Ralph Krueger will have no creditability like Les Reed and that will be a MASSIVE VOTE of NO CONFIDENCE in him personally and the Board.
I think it is fair to say that RK and his reputation as Chairman is on the line.
If the Players DO NOT STAY and PLAY this Season and honour their contracts - then it is a resigning matter for the Chairman.The Rise of The Foot Soldier.

BigBugBuzzz wrote:
Enough is enough! Good the club finally stands up to these arshole players! Play, ****!

Yes you are right but to late should of been said a few weeks a go by the club let the other players go.

[quote][p][bold]BigBugBuzzz[/bold] wrote:
Enough is enough! Good the club finally stands up to these arshole players! Play, ****![/p][/quote]Yes you are right but to late should of been said a few weeks a go by the club let the other players go.andygoater1957

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
Finally the board throw down the gauntlet and the truth comes out. It's the players who are manufacturing this exodus more than anyone. I haven't heard one complaint from any leaving player about leaving Southampton, in fact they were over the moon about it. Even Luke Shaw congratulated Lovren on Twitter, saying &quot;see you soon" and finished with a wink emote. After all the positive things even the WUM's had to say about keeping Schneiderlin and not selling him, and now people are saying get rid of him lol. Not happy about it, but we do need to get rid of the deadwood and start again. What is the point of keeping players who won't be giving 100% because they want to be elsewhere?

.... because we barely have enough Players to stop Liverpool running rampage and winning 6-0 on the first day of the Season

[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote:
Finally the board throw down the gauntlet and the truth comes out. It's the players who are manufacturing this exodus more than anyone. I haven't heard one complaint from any leaving player about leaving Southampton, in fact they were over the moon about it. Even Luke Shaw congratulated Lovren on Twitter, saying "see you soon" and finished with a wink emote. After all the positive things even the WUM's had to say about keeping Schneiderlin and not selling him, and now people are saying get rid of him lol. Not happy about it, but we do need to get rid of the deadwood and start again. What is the point of keeping players who won't be giving 100% because they want to be elsewhere?[/p][/quote].... because we barely have enough Players to stop Liverpool running rampage and winning 6-0 on the first day of the SeasonThe Rise of The Foot Soldier.

7saint7 wrote:
All he said was his amazing journey at the club had been &quot;DESTROYED"
He's right . Look at what Fat Cat and co have done to this club in a matter of weeks.

No. He is referring to the one hour showdown he had with Krueger today, where Krueger told him he will not be leaving.

[quote][p][bold]7saint7[/bold] wrote:
All he said was his amazing journey at the club had been "DESTROYED"
He's right . Look at what Fat Cat and co have done to this club in a matter of weeks.[/p][/quote]No. He is referring to the one hour showdown he had with Krueger today, where Krueger told him he will not be leaving.BigBugBuzzz

Just another money grabbing ****, just get rid of him fo as much money as possible, lets hopes his dream move to spurs sees him sitting on the bench and out of Frances international set up.

Ungrateful bast**d

Just another money grabbing ****, just get rid of him fo as much money as possible, lets hopes his dream move to spurs sees him sitting on the bench and out of Frances international set up.
Ungrateful bast**dbbb001

bbb001 wrote:
Just another money grabbing ****, just get rid of him fo as much money as possible, lets hopes his dream move to spurs sees him sitting on the bench and out of Frances international set up.

Ungrateful bast**d

In fact keep him for a season in the reserves

[quote][p][bold]bbb001[/bold] wrote:
Just another money grabbing ****, just get rid of him fo as much money as possible, lets hopes his dream move to spurs sees him sitting on the bench and out of Frances international set up.
Ungrateful bast**d[/p][/quote]In fact keep him for a season in the reservesbbb001

Obviously Krueger hadn't discussed anything with spider and probably jay rod!.The club is imploding in front of our eyes,due to poor management,amazing spin and cashing in by the owner.The way its going is simply a complete capitulation .The players know the club will be sold and all will want to get away.It's going to be a rough ride with survival the priority.

Obviously Krueger hadn't discussed anything with spider and probably jay rod!.The club is imploding in front of our eyes,due to poor management,amazing spin and cashing in by the owner.The way its going is simply a complete capitulation .The players know the club will be sold and all will want to get away.It's going to be a rough ride with survival the priority.peregrine73

CharlieOxbridge wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider &amp; JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.

The plot thickens, I would love to be a Staplewood tomorrow and hear what big Ron has to say.

[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider & JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.[/p][/quote]The plot thickens, I would love to be a Staplewood tomorrow and hear what big Ron has to say.THE12THMAN

Oh for ducks sake. So Krueger made this statement totally without the knowledge of Spider, and probably JayRod. What did he expect the kickback would be. Either you take the handline stance in the first place or you don't at all. The stupid cant. I give up, the players don't have an ounce of humility, gratitude or decency and the board haven't got a clue. Balls to what I said earlier I'm joining the neggies, it's not so far to fall. One hour of feeling good. One solitary fe kking hour.

Oh for ducks sake. So Krueger made this statement totally without the knowledge of Spider, and probably JayRod. What did he expect the kickback would be. Either you take the handline stance in the first place or you don't at all. The stupid cant. I give up, the players don't have an ounce of humility, gratitude or decency and the board haven't got a clue. Balls to what I said earlier I'm joining the neggies, it's not so far to fall. One hour of feeling good. One solitary fe kking hour.Benali76

hamblesaint wrote:
I am shocked at the way these saints players have acted and reacted. I don't care what was said behind closed doors to whom and when. All I want is a show of loyalty and gratitude from players who are employed by southampton FC. I didn't hear of any of them turning down the pay increase when they signed new contract extensions. If they wanted true glory they should have stayed and forced saints into the champions league. Instead they have chased the money whilst highlighting European football as the reason. These players were good players for us last season not GREAT. INDEED IT IS 6 YEARS OF FANTASTIC SAINTS JOURNEY DESTROYED. NOT BY SAINTS BUT BY PLAYERS GREED.

The problem is that he has seen others doing this Lallana and Lovren and they both got their own way . The problem we have now is who is going to back down! If Kruger does he will totally lose face . This is a real mess driven by greed by the agents and player

Sometimes you sell something knowing there is going to be a massive backlash. The profit is too big to ignore though, so you employ a 'regional manager' or even 'ceo', maybe one that wouldn't normally fit the bill (different industry or just a chancer). You give him the deal on a plate to 'close out'.
The backlash comes, you act surprised, try to mediate, apologise on his behalf, finally sack him and let the lawyers deal with the rest..... Ralph?

Just a guess, but Morgan, J Rod and Ralphy won't be here at the end of the window!

[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]hamblesaint[/bold] wrote:
I am shocked at the way these saints players have acted and reacted. I don't care what was said behind closed doors to whom and when. All I want is a show of loyalty and gratitude from players who are employed by southampton FC. I didn't hear of any of them turning down the pay increase when they signed new contract extensions. If they wanted true glory they should have stayed and forced saints into the champions league. Instead they have chased the money whilst highlighting European football as the reason. These players were good players for us last season not GREAT. INDEED IT IS 6 YEARS OF FANTASTIC SAINTS JOURNEY DESTROYED. NOT BY SAINTS BUT BY PLAYERS GREED.[/p][/quote]The problem is that he has seen others doing this Lallana and Lovren and they both got their own way . The problem we have now is who is going to back down! If Kruger does he will totally lose face . This is a real mess driven by greed by the agents and player[/p][/quote]Sometimes you sell something knowing there is going to be a massive backlash. The profit is too big to ignore though, so you employ a 'regional manager' or even 'ceo', maybe one that wouldn't normally fit the bill (different industry or just a chancer). You give him the deal on a plate to 'close out'.
The backlash comes, you act surprised, try to mediate, apologise on his behalf, finally sack him and let the lawyers deal with the rest..... Ralph?
Just a guess, but Morgan, J Rod and Ralphy won't be here at the end of the window!saintmicky

finally some balls are on show! lets try and build from this point , get a few players in and end enjoy the ride.Keep your heads up ladsfootball its southampton. keep your chins up lad

finally some balls are on show! lets try and build from this point , get a few players in and end enjoy the ride.Keep your heads up ladsfootball its southampton. keep your chins up ladRED & WHITE TILL I DIE!

You know what this whole debacle is turning me off football. You don't see this happening with other sports !
For some reason layers have forgotten that they are not bigger than a club . But with the vultures circling I can see us losing another one of our players. Interesting to note Jay has not said a peep!
I hope Brenda is happy with himself because you know what they say what comes round! I feel sorry for Koeman he must be asking himself whether this was a good move

You know what this whole debacle is turning me off football. You don't see this happening with other sports !
For some reason layers have forgotten that they are not bigger than a club . But with the vultures circling I can see us losing another one of our players. Interesting to note Jay has not said a peep!
I hope Brenda is happy with himself because you know what they say what comes round! I feel sorry for Koeman he must be asking himself whether this was a good moveChapperall

Now everybody has been sold he wants to leave as I said him, J Rod, Clyne and maybe a few others like JWP can't stay at a lower half club considering they're better than that. They want what's best for their careers. I reckon he's asked for a transfer because everybody has gone or wanting to go and the board has said no so he's furious. He's just trying to engineer a move, Reed said Chambers got to go because he wanted to so Schneiderlin is just doing the same and he'll win based on the clubs logic, even give in or prove your lying. They've put themselves in a corner and can't really win.

Now everybody has been sold he wants to leave as I said him, J Rod, Clyne and maybe a few others like JWP can't stay at a lower half club considering they're better than that. They want what's best for their careers. I reckon he's asked for a transfer because everybody has gone or wanting to go and the board has said no so he's furious. He's just trying to engineer a move, Reed said Chambers got to go because he wanted to so Schneiderlin is just doing the same and he'll win based on the clubs logic, even give in or prove your lying. They've put themselves in a corner and can't really win.Gormzzz

GHamilton wrote:
Oh and just in case your reading this Morgan.....6 years building a reputation for yourself DESTROYED in 1 minute.

SPOT ON - No-one will see Spider in quite the same light any more. LOL

[quote][p][bold]GHamilton[/bold] wrote:
Oh and just in case your reading this Morgan.....6 years building a reputation for yourself DESTROYED in 1 minute.[/p][/quote]SPOT ON - No-one will see Spider in quite the same light any more. LOLThe Rise of The Foot Soldier.

CharlieOxbridge wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider &amp; JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.

Thought this one was obvious but can't you see what Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them (willingly) but he is forcing the hand of both Spider & JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim, deflect the blame and it's working a treat. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.

[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider & JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.[/p][/quote]Thought this one was obvious but can't you see what Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them (willingly) but he is forcing the hand of both Spider & JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim, deflect the blame and it's working a treat. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.CharlieOxbridge

Saintade wrote:
Listening to TalkSport and it's all Saints. They are just saying that the reputation of our great club is in absolute tatters over this and they predict we will sink to the bottom without trace. I think it's inevitable...it's an absolute PR disaster of monumental proportions. Having said that, where is the loyalty from Morgan for where we've put him? Oh I forgot there isn't any. Now I don't believe a word any of our Board say.

Because TalkSport is the source of definitive fact, isn't it?

Talksport and SKY have a vested interest in maintaining the myth that the Prem is the chosen land. It is not, in England , the Championship is a far more honest competition. The Prem is most definitely on borrowed time due to the insane greed of players, agents and we know the worlds best players are playing elsewhere.

I am disappointed at what has come to pass but after the last few days I am now more than ever convinced that the root cause of all this upheaval is a combination of Some of the above, the uselessness of Les Reed and the missed opportunity of keeping this squad together but once Woy started poking around it all went down the Swanee.

Let's have a good blood and thunder relegation battle and if we survive or not right now I don't really give a **** but sure as he'll the players who stay with us will be mightily admired and fully supported by a full house at SO14.

FUBAR. But COYR.

[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote:
Listening to TalkSport and it's all Saints. They are just saying that the reputation of our great club is in absolute tatters over this and they predict we will sink to the bottom without trace. I think it's inevitable...it's an absolute PR disaster of monumental proportions. Having said that, where is the loyalty from Morgan for where we've put him? Oh I forgot there isn't any. Now I don't believe a word any of our Board say.[/p][/quote]Because TalkSport is the source of definitive fact, isn't it?[/p][/quote]Talksport and SKY have a vested interest in maintaining the myth that the Prem is the chosen land. It is not, in England , the Championship is a far more honest competition. The Prem is most definitely on borrowed time due to the insane greed of players, agents and we know the worlds best players are playing elsewhere.
I am disappointed at what has come to pass but after the last few days I am now more than ever convinced that the root cause of all this upheaval is a combination of Some of the above, the uselessness of Les Reed and the missed opportunity of keeping this squad together but once Woy started poking around it all went down the Swanee.
Let's have a good blood and thunder relegation battle and if we survive or not right now I don't really give a **** but sure as he'll the players who stay with us will be mightily admired and fully supported by a full house at SO14.
FUBAR. But COYR.redsnapper

KiwiSaint74 wrote:
Finally the board throw down the gauntlet and the truth comes out. It's the players who are manufacturing this exodus more than anyone. I haven't heard one complaint from any leaving player about leaving Southampton, in fact they were over the moon about it. Even Luke Shaw congratulated Lovren on Twitter, saying &quot;see you soon" and finished with a wink emote. After all the positive things even the WUM's had to say about keeping Schneiderlin and not selling him, and now people are saying get rid of him lol. Not happy about it, but we do need to get rid of the deadwood and start again. What is the point of keeping players who won't be giving 100% because they want to be elsewhere?

.... because we barely have enough Players to stop Liverpool running rampage and winning 6-0 on the first day of the Season

Given his attitude, I would expect Morgan wouldn't even attempt a tackle on the day.

[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]KiwiSaint74[/bold] wrote:
Finally the board throw down the gauntlet and the truth comes out. It's the players who are manufacturing this exodus more than anyone. I haven't heard one complaint from any leaving player about leaving Southampton, in fact they were over the moon about it. Even Luke Shaw congratulated Lovren on Twitter, saying "see you soon" and finished with a wink emote. After all the positive things even the WUM's had to say about keeping Schneiderlin and not selling him, and now people are saying get rid of him lol. Not happy about it, but we do need to get rid of the deadwood and start again. What is the point of keeping players who won't be giving 100% because they want to be elsewhere?[/p][/quote].... because we barely have enough Players to stop Liverpool running rampage and winning 6-0 on the first day of the Season[/p][/quote]Given his attitude, I would expect Morgan wouldn't even attempt a tackle on the day.KiwiSaint74

Chapperall wrote:
Here we go again. Just another **** up ! You would gave thought they would have spoke to the players first wouldn't you. Bloody shambles.
I wonder where this going to as Kruger will lose some face if this goes pear shaped. However we should make Spider clear that he won't be allowed to go and that's it. Need to make a stand sometime ! I wonder what all the happy clappers are saying now .

They did. One hour showdown talks with Krueger today. Krueger told them the way of the land, and Morgan spat the dummy. This is the best news we have had for a long time, because Krueger has put his credibility on the line. He would not do that unless he was serious. He had no need to.

[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote:
Here we go again. Just another **** up ! You would gave thought they would have spoke to the players first wouldn't you. Bloody shambles.
I wonder where this going to as Kruger will lose some face if this goes pear shaped. However we should make Spider clear that he won't be allowed to go and that's it. Need to make a stand sometime ! I wonder what all the happy clappers are saying now .[/p][/quote]They did. One hour showdown talks with Krueger today. Krueger told them the way of the land, and Morgan spat the dummy. This is the best news we have had for a long time, because Krueger has put his credibility on the line. He would not do that unless he was serious. He had no need to.BigBugBuzzz

I see that those who were calling on the board to show some guts and put there foot down are now complaining because they did just that! Great stuff!
Only my assumption but I would have thought that the hour he mentions in his tweet probably refers to the meeting he had with the club before the announcement was made?

I see that those who were calling on the board to show some guts and put there foot down are now complaining because they did just that! Great stuff!
Only my assumption but I would have thought that the hour he mentions in his tweet probably refers to the meeting he had with the club before the announcement was made?StElsass

Chapperall wrote:
You know what this whole debacle is turning me off football. You don't see this happening with other sports !
For some reason layers have forgotten that they are not bigger than a club . But with the vultures circling I can see us losing another one of our players. Interesting to note Jay has not said a peep!
I hope Brenda is happy with himself because you know what they say what comes round! I feel sorry for Koeman he must be asking himself whether this was a good move

We should use cap space like the NBA, max contracts which every franchise is entitled too. Every franchise has to have 12 players on the roster. Everybody get's a fair share of TV rights, the bottom team gets the first draft pick. Even the worst teams in the NBA are given foundations to build upon so that they can compete in say 5 years. Due to salary cap a trade must be equal on both sides, the contracts of everybody involved must be equal, makes it much more exciting, better players take less money to win.

[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote:
You know what this whole debacle is turning me off football. You don't see this happening with other sports !
For some reason layers have forgotten that they are not bigger than a club . But with the vultures circling I can see us losing another one of our players. Interesting to note Jay has not said a peep!
I hope Brenda is happy with himself because you know what they say what comes round! I feel sorry for Koeman he must be asking himself whether this was a good move[/p][/quote]We should use cap space like the NBA, max contracts which every franchise is entitled too. Every franchise has to have 12 players on the roster. Everybody get's a fair share of TV rights, the bottom team gets the first draft pick. Even the worst teams in the NBA are given foundations to build upon so that they can compete in say 5 years. Due to salary cap a trade must be equal on both sides, the contracts of everybody involved must be equal, makes it much more exciting, better players take less money to win.Gormzzz

Chapperall wrote:
Here we go again. Just another **** up ! You would gave thought they would have spoke to the players first wouldn't you. Bloody shambles.
I wonder where this going to as Kruger will lose some face if this goes pear shaped. However we should make Spider clear that he won't be allowed to go and that's it. Need to make a stand sometime ! I wonder what all the happy clappers are saying now .

Yeah great communication skills from our chairman. This is the time for the club to show it has some backbone. We don't, need any more cash so it won't matter if we have to make an example or two. Start with a big fine for this Twitter outburst. It beggars belief that all these greedy bar stewards are quite happy to destroy the club that has made them what they are today.

[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote:
Here we go again. Just another **** up ! You would gave thought they would have spoke to the players first wouldn't you. Bloody shambles.
I wonder where this going to as Kruger will lose some face if this goes pear shaped. However we should make Spider clear that he won't be allowed to go and that's it. Need to make a stand sometime ! I wonder what all the happy clappers are saying now .[/p][/quote]Yeah great communication skills from our chairman. This is the time for the club to show it has some backbone. We don't, need any more cash so it won't matter if we have to make an example or two. Start with a big fine for this Twitter outburst. It beggars belief that all these greedy bar stewards are quite happy to destroy the club that has made them what they are today.Clever Dick

saintand266 wrote:
Stamp your feet Morgan like my six year old daughter .

You were many fans choice for captain but now I'm not do sure .

The attitude of some of our players is absolutely diabolical , whether is broken promises or greed they seem to think they tweet or say what they want and they will get it .

Time for Ralph and useLES Reed to grow some f##king balls and put them in their place

Errrrrrrrr that's what they just did fool !

This just proves its not the board at fault but the greedy fast track players, I wonder how many will crash and burn ........

[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote:
Stamp your feet Morgan like my six year old daughter .
You were many fans choice for captain but now I'm not do sure .
The attitude of some of our players is absolutely diabolical , whether is broken promises or greed they seem to think they tweet or say what they want and they will get it .
Time for Ralph and useLES Reed to grow some f##king balls and put them in their place[/p][/quote]Errrrrrrrr that's what they just did fool !
This just proves its not the board at fault but the greedy fast track players, I wonder how many will crash and burn ........Buddy SFC

BarnetSaint wrote:
This whole saga beggars belief.
Kruger has gone on national radio and stated that MS is not for sale.
Great!
Finally some good news.
Surely to god the player would have known about this and presumably ok, but no.
We the fans find out before he does.
Now MS is behaving like a brat but above all, Kruger has made a monumental balls up by trying to appease us.
The whole thing stinks.

Spot on. He speaks once and makes a complete arris of it. It's not even a slip of the tongue, it's a preconsidered tactical move. I feel a nob because I naturally assumed the statement must be with Morgan's blessing so it was great news. Unbelievable stupidity. I want his job and would do it for one tenth of his salary. I give up.

[quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote:
This whole saga beggars belief.
Kruger has gone on national radio and stated that MS is not for sale.
Great!
Finally some good news.
Surely to god the player would have known about this and presumably ok, but no.
We the fans find out before he does.
Now MS is behaving like a brat but above all, Kruger has made a monumental balls up by trying to appease us.
The whole thing stinks.[/p][/quote]Spot on. He speaks once and makes a complete arris of it. It's not even a slip of the tongue, it's a preconsidered tactical move. I feel a nob because I naturally assumed the statement must be with Morgan's blessing so it was great news. Unbelievable stupidity. I want his job and would do it for one tenth of his salary. I give up.Benali76

RED &amp; WHITE TILL I DIE! wrote:
finally some balls are on show! lets try and build from this point , get a few players in and end enjoy the ride.Keep your heads up ladsfootball its southampton. keep your chins up lad

oops...

[quote][p][bold]RED & WHITE TILL I DIE![/bold] wrote:
finally some balls are on show! lets try and build from this point , get a few players in and end enjoy the ride.Keep your heads up ladsfootball its southampton. keep your chins up lad[/p][/quote]oops...RED & WHITE TILL I DIE!

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Hey Baz,
Really puts things into prespective
I had the old Radiotherapy treatment but I don't pretend it's anything like you and your wife is going through.
All the best to both of you.

[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Hey Baz,
Really puts things into prespective
I had the old Radiotherapy treatment but I don't pretend it's anything like you and your wife is going through.
All the best to both of you.deepheat

Morg’s tweet is totally abiguous. If he is angry at not being allowed to leave this club, then his comments do not make sense as he himself would be “destroying” his 6 years at our club, simply by leaving. What else could he have meant? I am wondering if this is a bogus tweet intended to stir things up – if so, it is certainly working! I think Morg needs to firstly confirm whether he posted this tweet. If he did, then he needs to properly explain what he meant. I will then pass my judgement on the issue. I will be as angry as the rest of you if it is all properly confirmed and certainly will not be calling him Morg any longer. We certainly have not heard the end of this saga. Poor communications and/or poor choices of words can produce totally misleading outcomes. Wars can start over less – or hang on, one seems to have already started. The emotion pendulum continues to lurch from one extreme to the other.

Morg’s tweet is totally abiguous. If he is angry at not being allowed to leave this club, then his comments do not make sense as he himself would be “destroying” his 6 years at our club, simply by leaving. What else could he have meant? I am wondering if this is a bogus tweet intended to stir things up – if so, it is certainly working! I think Morg needs to firstly confirm whether he posted this tweet. If he did, then he needs to properly explain what he meant. I will then pass my judgement on the issue. I will be as angry as the rest of you if it is all properly confirmed and certainly will not be calling him Morg any longer. We certainly have not heard the end of this saga. Poor communications and/or poor choices of words can produce totally misleading outcomes. Wars can start over less – or hang on, one seems to have already started. The emotion pendulum continues to lurch from one extreme to the other.nomorerumours

Benali76 wrote:
Oh for ducks sake. So Krueger made this statement totally without the knowledge of Spider, and probably JayRod. What did he expect the kickback would be. Either you take the handline stance in the first place or you don't at all. The stupid cant. I give up, the players don't have an ounce of humility, gratitude or decency and the board haven't got a clue. Balls to what I said earlier I'm joining the neggies, it's not so far to fall. One hour of feeling good. One solitary fe kking hour.

No, there were showdown talks today. The club finally took a stance and said enough is enough. The talks took an hour, hence the reference in Morgans tweet.

[quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote:
Oh for ducks sake. So Krueger made this statement totally without the knowledge of Spider, and probably JayRod. What did he expect the kickback would be. Either you take the handline stance in the first place or you don't at all. The stupid cant. I give up, the players don't have an ounce of humility, gratitude or decency and the board haven't got a clue. Balls to what I said earlier I'm joining the neggies, it's not so far to fall. One hour of feeling good. One solitary fe kking hour.[/p][/quote]No, there were showdown talks today. The club finally took a stance and said enough is enough. The talks took an hour, hence the reference in Morgans tweet.BigBugBuzzz

Better to have only two angry players in the squad,than eight or nine spreading the disease

Shaw and Chambers are top youngsters at their positions in England ,but they are just fullbacks, and collecting £46 million for two fullbacks is extraordinary business,it`s the easiest positions to replace

Better to have only two angry players in the squad,than eight or nine spreading the disease
Shaw and Chambers are top youngsters at their positions in England ,but they are just fullbacks, and collecting £46 million for two fullbacks is extraordinary business,it`s the easiest positions to replacedamoose

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Hope she makes a full recovery mate
As you say it puts things into perspective good luck

[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Hope she makes a full recovery mate
As you say it puts things into perspective good luckbullsbags

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Hope she makes a full recovery mate
As you say it puts things into perspective good luck

GOOD LUCK to your wife - COSTA BAZ

I hope reading this has put Spider - his tantrum and attitude to shame !

[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Hope she makes a full recovery mate
As you say it puts things into perspective good luck[/p][/quote]GOOD LUCK to your wife - COSTA BAZ
I hope reading this has put Spider - his tantrum and attitude to shame !The Rise of The Foot Soldier.

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Hey Baz,
Really puts things into prespective
I had the old Radiotherapy treatment but I don't pretend it's anything like you and your wife is going through.
All the best to both of you.

Most intelligent post I have hear here, ever. Good luck to you both. And Morgan, shame on you!

[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Hey Baz,
Really puts things into prespective
I had the old Radiotherapy treatment but I don't pretend it's anything like you and your wife is going through.
All the best to both of you.[/p][/quote]Most intelligent post I have hear here, ever. Good luck to you both. And Morgan, shame on you!BigBugBuzzz

I see all of those on the other thread criticising the supposed doom merchants are again lying low. It's the same routine every time they get sth wrong.

Morgan you treat the club this way after what it did for your career, you are a DISGRACE!

I see all of those on the other thread criticising the supposed doom merchants are again lying low. It's the same routine every time they get sth wrong.
Morgan you treat the club this way after what it did for your career, you are a DISGRACE!redandy10

nomorerumours wrote:
Morg’s tweet is totally abiguous. If he is angry at not being allowed to leave this club, then his comments do not make sense as he himself would be “destroying” his 6 years at our club, simply by leaving. What else could he have meant? I am wondering if this is a bogus tweet intended to stir things up – if so, it is certainly working! I think Morg needs to firstly confirm whether he posted this tweet. If he did, then he needs to properly explain what he meant. I will then pass my judgement on the issue. I will be as angry as the rest of you if it is all properly confirmed and certainly will not be calling him Morg any longer. We certainly have not heard the end of this saga. Poor communications and/or poor choices of words can produce totally misleading outcomes. Wars can start over less – or hang on, one seems to have already started. The emotion pendulum continues to lurch from one extreme to the other.

No, again, there were showdown talks today with Krueger that lasted an hour. The club said enough is enough. What Morgan is referring to is his memory of his time here at Saints. He thinks his finds memories have been destroyed by Krueger. I say, he is destroying them himself!

[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote:
Morg’s tweet is totally abiguous. If he is angry at not being allowed to leave this club, then his comments do not make sense as he himself would be “destroying” his 6 years at our club, simply by leaving. What else could he have meant? I am wondering if this is a bogus tweet intended to stir things up – if so, it is certainly working! I think Morg needs to firstly confirm whether he posted this tweet. If he did, then he needs to properly explain what he meant. I will then pass my judgement on the issue. I will be as angry as the rest of you if it is all properly confirmed and certainly will not be calling him Morg any longer. We certainly have not heard the end of this saga. Poor communications and/or poor choices of words can produce totally misleading outcomes. Wars can start over less – or hang on, one seems to have already started. The emotion pendulum continues to lurch from one extreme to the other.[/p][/quote]No, again, there were showdown talks today with Krueger that lasted an hour. The club said enough is enough. What Morgan is referring to is his memory of his time here at Saints. He thinks his finds memories have been destroyed by Krueger. I say, he is destroying them himself!BigBugBuzzz

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Mate - what a great post and I'm sorry for your wife. But what you said really puts things in perspective.
Take note Morgan Schneiderlin and hang your f***ing head in shame.
Nice one Costa Baz :-)

[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Mate - what a great post and I'm sorry for your wife. But what you said really puts things in perspective.
Take note Morgan Schneiderlin and hang your f***ing head in shame.
Nice one Costa Baz :-)Saintlee72

I really didn't realise that once you get a few caps for which ever country you originate from, gives you a free pass to become obnoxious , ungrateful , greedy 2urd. Can future young players who come through the academy or from wherever waiver any chance of international football in any age group to save their moral human dignity. Thank you.

I really didn't realise that once you get a few caps for which ever country you originate from, gives you a free pass to become obnoxious , ungrateful , greedy 2urd. Can future young players who come through the academy or from wherever waiver any chance of international football in any age group to save their moral human dignity. Thank you.Beondajoke

hamblesaint wrote:
I am shocked at the way these saints players have acted and reacted. I don't care what was said behind closed doors to whom and when. All I want is a show of loyalty and gratitude from players who are employed by southampton FC. I didn't hear of any of them turning down the pay increase when they signed new contract extensions. If they wanted true glory they should have stayed and forced saints into the champions league. Instead they have chased the money whilst highlighting European football as the reason. These players were good players for us last season not GREAT. INDEED IT IS 6 YEARS OF FANTASTIC SAINTS JOURNEY DESTROYED. NOT BY SAINTS BUT BY PLAYERS GREED.

Bang on the money. You know what, if we do go down then so what? I would prefer to cheer a team of Chaplow, Fox, Harding and the like that I can associate with, that have honesty and integrity. Why can't just one of these bar stewards stand up and say "no, Saints and the fans have been good to me, I am staying to pay them back in their time of need". Just imagine the respect and reception they would get from not just us but from every football fan. Even for just a season. They forgo all this for more money when they already earn more in a week than I do working my but off for a year. Filth.

[quote][p][bold]hamblesaint[/bold] wrote:
I am shocked at the way these saints players have acted and reacted. I don't care what was said behind closed doors to whom and when. All I want is a show of loyalty and gratitude from players who are employed by southampton FC. I didn't hear of any of them turning down the pay increase when they signed new contract extensions. If they wanted true glory they should have stayed and forced saints into the champions league. Instead they have chased the money whilst highlighting European football as the reason. These players were good players for us last season not GREAT. INDEED IT IS 6 YEARS OF FANTASTIC SAINTS JOURNEY DESTROYED. NOT BY SAINTS BUT BY PLAYERS GREED.[/p][/quote]Bang on the money. You know what, if we do go down then so what? I would prefer to cheer a team of Chaplow, Fox, Harding and the like that I can associate with, that have honesty and integrity. Why can't just one of these bar stewards stand up and say "no, Saints and the fans have been good to me, I am staying to pay them back in their time of need". Just imagine the respect and reception they would get from not just us but from every football fan. Even for just a season. They forgo all this for more money when they already earn more in a week than I do working my but off for a year. Filth.Benali76

saintand266 wrote:
Stamp your feet Morgan like my six year old daughter .

You were many fans choice for captain but now I'm not do sure .

The attitude of some of our players is absolutely diabolical , whether is broken promises or greed they seem to think they tweet or say what they want and they will get it .

Time for Ralph and useLES Reed to grow some f##king balls and put them in their place

Errrrrrrrr that's what they just did fool !

This just proves its not the board at fault but the greedy fast track players, I wonder how many will crash and burn ........

I'm a fool ?
Why for saying grow some f##king balls?
It's easy for kruger to say they are not for sale but the proof is in the pudding hence time to grow some balls .

Talk is cheap . Time to show these arrogant so called professionals that the club can nor be held to ransom.
Fool!

[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote:
Stamp your feet Morgan like my six year old daughter .
You were many fans choice for captain but now I'm not do sure .
The attitude of some of our players is absolutely diabolical , whether is broken promises or greed they seem to think they tweet or say what they want and they will get it .
Time for Ralph and useLES Reed to grow some f##king balls and put them in their place[/p][/quote]Errrrrrrrr that's what they just did fool !
This just proves its not the board at fault but the greedy fast track players, I wonder how many will crash and burn ........[/p][/quote]I'm a fool ?
Why for saying grow some f##king balls?
It's easy for kruger to say they are not for sale but the proof is in the pudding hence time to grow some balls .
Talk is cheap . Time to show these arrogant so called professionals that the club can nor be held to ransom.
Fool!saintand266

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Hey Baz,
Really puts things into prespective
I had the old Radiotherapy treatment but I don't pretend it's anything like you and your wife is going through.
All the best to both of you.

Most intelligent post I have hear here, ever. Good luck to you both. And Morgan, shame on you!

footballs not that important when you read posts like this, good luck to you both.

[quote][p][bold]BigBugBuzzz[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Hey Baz,
Really puts things into prespective
I had the old Radiotherapy treatment but I don't pretend it's anything like you and your wife is going through.
All the best to both of you.[/p][/quote]Most intelligent post I have hear here, ever. Good luck to you both. And Morgan, shame on you![/p][/quote]footballs not that important when you read posts like this, good luck to you both.saint dave

People keep saying how can the board do this without the player knowing. He knew because he had a meeting today with saints reps and his agent to be told he could not leave. At last the trap door is down but he Morgan wants to he can force the issue by refusing to play let's see what happens next.

People keep saying how can the board do this without the player knowing. He knew because he had a meeting today with saints reps and his agent to be told he could not leave. At last the trap door is down but he Morgan wants to he can force the issue by refusing to play let's see what happens next.Area six

MS wanted to go to Arsenal. Didier Deschamps said to him "You need to be playing Champions League football to stay in the French side." Krueger said "I have not spoken to Tottenham about Morgan" No he hasn't but he spoke to Arsenal.

Unlike the other players who have left for inflated fees, Koeman sees Morgan as the key in the centre of his midfield. So he stays.

Now Morgan is trying to force a move. This is where the club now shows balls. Get to September One ( :) ) and then slam the door shut in Morgan's face. He believes like Lallana and Shaw that they have given years to the club and therefore deserve to break their contracts and go. Well us fans funded your last 6 years Morgan. Why not pop round and s*** in my fridge whilst you are at it?

SO now Morgan must stay. We must not give in to any more tantrums. Key to what was said today was "we put no one up for sale" so every player who left threw away their right to being paid up for their contracts.

Now keep the faith as players will come in.

Here is the thing.
MS wanted to go to Arsenal. Didier Deschamps said to him "You need to be playing Champions League football to stay in the French side." Krueger said "I have not spoken to Tottenham about Morgan" No he hasn't but he spoke to Arsenal.
Unlike the other players who have left for inflated fees, Koeman sees Morgan as the key in the centre of his midfield. So he stays.
Now Morgan is trying to force a move. This is where the club now shows balls. Get to September One ( :) ) and then slam the door shut in Morgan's face. He believes like Lallana and Shaw that they have given years to the club and therefore deserve to break their contracts and go. Well us fans funded your last 6 years Morgan. Why not pop round and s*** in my fridge whilst you are at it?
SO now Morgan must stay. We must not give in to any more tantrums. Key to what was said today was "we put no one up for sale" so every player who left threw away their right to being paid up for their contracts.
Now keep the faith as players will come in.FleetSaint

Morgan's Twitter comment shows that he is tactless and not very bright. Saints are still in business, not destroyed. The greedy ambitions of want away players, who were all probably tapped up by their new clubs before their moves are to blame for the damage to Saints. Morgan's Twitter rant has succeeded only in damaging his own credibility with Saints fans.

I always support the shirt 100%, regardless of who wears it for Saints. Morgan is still a Saints player, so I have no plans to give him a hard time. I want him to play well for our team.

Former Saints players, such as Terry Paine, Mick Channon and Matt Le Tissier, along with a host of other ex Saints, have my respect. They earned it. Unlike them, Morgan doesn't even have sufficient decorum to stop him twitting in his own nest (think about it).

Up the Saints!!!

Morgan's Twitter comment shows that he is tactless and not very bright. Saints are still in business, not destroyed. The greedy ambitions of want away players, who were all probably tapped up by their new clubs before their moves are to blame for the damage to Saints. Morgan's Twitter rant has succeeded only in damaging his own credibility with Saints fans.
I always support the shirt 100%, regardless of who wears it for Saints. Morgan is still a Saints player, so I have no plans to give him a hard time. I want him to play well for our team.
Former Saints players, such as Terry Paine, Mick Channon and Matt Le Tissier, along with a host of other ex Saints, have my respect. They earned it. Unlike them, Morgan doesn't even have sufficient decorum to stop him twitting in his own nest (think about it).
Up the Saints!!!justaSaintsfan

Let's cut him a bit of slack. He is human and had psyched himself up to be part of the mass departure. He'll get over it. He will perform next season. He has more about him than some of the others. Morgan, we love you as a Saints player and want you to stay. Look forward to cheering you on the terraces next season. X

Let's cut him a bit of slack. He is human and had psyched himself up to be part of the mass departure. He'll get over it. He will perform next season. He has more about him than some of the others. Morgan, we love you as a Saints player and want you to stay. Look forward to cheering you on the terraces next season. Xthinklikealocal

redandy10 wrote:
I see all of those on the other thread criticising the supposed doom merchants are again lying low. It's the same routine every time they get sth wrong.

Morgan you treat the club this way after what it did for your career, you are a DISGRACE!

Yeah they always stay away until they feel things have passed a little and then they get involved. Even a few of the other doom merchants have stopped commenting, maybe everybody has just had enough. We should just play our best youngsters and buy a few more english youngsters to fill out the team. Patrick Roberts to replace Lallana would cheer me up until we sell him, Eric Dier to replace Lovren, Nathan Redmond to replace J Rod, Will Hughes although we already have JWP and Harrison Reed, Jamal Lascelles to challenge Fonte, Chalobah to replace Schneiderlin.

[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote:
I see all of those on the other thread criticising the supposed doom merchants are again lying low. It's the same routine every time they get sth wrong.
Morgan you treat the club this way after what it did for your career, you are a DISGRACE![/p][/quote]Yeah they always stay away until they feel things have passed a little and then they get involved. Even a few of the other doom merchants have stopped commenting, maybe everybody has just had enough. We should just play our best youngsters and buy a few more english youngsters to fill out the team. Patrick Roberts to replace Lallana would cheer me up until we sell him, Eric Dier to replace Lovren, Nathan Redmond to replace J Rod, Will Hughes although we already have JWP and Harrison Reed, Jamal Lascelles to challenge Fonte, Chalobah to replace Schneiderlin.Gormzzz

Absolute disgrace obviously his meeting about the future was a waste of time, this reminds me of the Lowe years all over again f#cking incredible no ambition, I can see Koeman leaving if we sell spider and JRod, the club have lost all credibility, they now need to fine spider after his outburst, to bring him in line.
look at everything that's happened in the last month no kit contract loss of 5 players plus osvaldo and now spider and JRod and there will be others leaving for sure Along with Koeman we will be playing the under 21 team against the scouse scum !! Devastating why does this **** always happen to our club !

Absolute disgrace obviously his meeting about the future was a waste of time, this reminds me of the Lowe years all over again f#cking incredible no ambition, I can see Koeman leaving if we sell spider and JRod, the club have lost all credibility, they now need to fine spider after his outburst, to bring him in line.
look at everything that's happened in the last month no kit contract loss of 5 players plus osvaldo and now spider and JRod and there will be others leaving for sure Along with Koeman we will be playing the under 21 team against the scouse scum !! Devastating why does this **** always happen to our club !Ralph Krueger ! More like Freddie Krueger

BarnetSaint wrote:
This whole saga beggars belief.
Kruger has gone on national radio and stated that MS is not for sale.
Great!
Finally some good news.
Surely to god the player would have known about this and presumably ok, but no.
We the fans find out before he does.
Now MS is behaving like a brat but above all, Kruger has made a monumental balls up by trying to appease us.
The whole thing stinks.

And you know for a fact it went like that do you? Or are you prepared to jump through any hoop rather than admit the board have dune something right?

Of course it happened like that.

[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote:
This whole saga beggars belief.
Kruger has gone on national radio and stated that MS is not for sale.
Great!
Finally some good news.
Surely to god the player would have known about this and presumably ok, but no.
We the fans find out before he does.
Now MS is behaving like a brat but above all, Kruger has made a monumental balls up by trying to appease us.
The whole thing stinks.[/p][/quote]And you know for a fact it went like that do you? Or are you prepared to jump through any hoop rather than admit the board have dune something right?[/p][/quote]Of course it happened like that.Benali76

The poor lady with the illness does put things in perspective and shows up the utter greed and selfishness of professional footballers.

I'd love Gordon Taylor , chairman of the pfa, to come out and try and give an explanation over the utter contempt in which thesevplayers have held us.
We who idolised them and sang their names etc have been treated disgracefully .
Between our so called " stars " and the antics of the board and owner. We are the ones who have been kicked in the teeth.
But we will come out stronger and won't forget

The poor lady with the illness does put things in perspective and shows up the utter greed and selfishness of professional footballers.
I'd love Gordon Taylor , chairman of the pfa, to come out and try and give an explanation over the utter contempt in which thesevplayers have held us.
We who idolised them and sang their names etc have been treated disgracefully .
Between our so called " stars " and the antics of the board and owner. We are the ones who have been kicked in the teeth.
But we will come out stronger and won't forgetBarnetSaint

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Baz I'm sorry to hear about the adversities your wife is facing. I wish you both the best.

[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Baz I'm sorry to hear about the adversities your wife is facing. I wish you both the best.redandy10

People keep saying how can the board do this without the player knowing. He knew because he had a meeting today with saints reps and his agent to be told he could not leave. At last the trap door is down but he Morgan wants to he can force the issue by refusing to play let's see what happens next.
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Also strange how he said he did not know about the other transfer going through,the final word was not his 3 weeks ago,but now it is

Area six says...
People keep saying how can the board do this without the player knowing. He knew because he had a meeting today with saints reps and his agent to be told he could not leave. At last the trap door is down but he Morgan wants to he can force the issue by refusing to play let's see what happens next.
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Also strange how he said he did not know about the other transfer going through,the final word was not his 3 weeks ago,but now it isdamoose

CharlieOxbridge wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider &amp; JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.

That is the only explanation apart from Krueger is an imbecile.

[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider & JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.[/p][/quote]That is the only explanation apart from Krueger is an imbecile.Benali76

nomorerumours wrote:
Morg’s tweet is totally abiguous. If he is angry at not being allowed to leave this club, then his comments do not make sense as he himself would be “destroying” his 6 years at our club, simply by leaving. What else could he have meant? I am wondering if this is a bogus tweet intended to stir things up – if so, it is certainly working! I think Morg needs to firstly confirm whether he posted this tweet. If he did, then he needs to properly explain what he meant. I will then pass my judgement on the issue. I will be as angry as the rest of you if it is all properly confirmed and certainly will not be calling him Morg any longer. We certainly have not heard the end of this saga. Poor communications and/or poor choices of words can produce totally misleading outcomes. Wars can start over less – or hang on, one seems to have already started. The emotion pendulum continues to lurch from one extreme to the other.

No, again, there were showdown talks today with Krueger that lasted an hour. The club said enough is enough. What Morgan is referring to is his memory of his time here at Saints. He thinks his finds memories have been destroyed by Krueger. I say, he is destroying them himself!

I am not disagreeing with you and you may well be right. I was fully aware that Morg was having talks with the club this morning. There is still a lot of ambiguity over all of this, most of which we will never know. Whilst your assumption and conclusion is entirely reasonable it is not necessarily correct.

[quote][p][bold]BigBugBuzzz[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote:
Morg’s tweet is totally abiguous. If he is angry at not being allowed to leave this club, then his comments do not make sense as he himself would be “destroying” his 6 years at our club, simply by leaving. What else could he have meant? I am wondering if this is a bogus tweet intended to stir things up – if so, it is certainly working! I think Morg needs to firstly confirm whether he posted this tweet. If he did, then he needs to properly explain what he meant. I will then pass my judgement on the issue. I will be as angry as the rest of you if it is all properly confirmed and certainly will not be calling him Morg any longer. We certainly have not heard the end of this saga. Poor communications and/or poor choices of words can produce totally misleading outcomes. Wars can start over less – or hang on, one seems to have already started. The emotion pendulum continues to lurch from one extreme to the other.[/p][/quote]No, again, there were showdown talks today with Krueger that lasted an hour. The club said enough is enough. What Morgan is referring to is his memory of his time here at Saints. He thinks his finds memories have been destroyed by Krueger. I say, he is destroying them himself![/p][/quote]I am not disagreeing with you and you may well be right. I was fully aware that Morg was having talks with the club this morning. There is still a lot of ambiguity over all of this, most of which we will never know. Whilst your assumption and conclusion is entirely reasonable it is not necessarily correct.nomorerumours

BarnetSaint wrote:
This whole saga beggars belief.
Kruger has gone on national radio and stated that MS is not for sale.
Great!
Finally some good news.
Surely to god the player would have known about this and presumably ok, but no.
We the fans find out before he does.
Now MS is behaving like a brat but above all, Kruger has made a monumental balls up by trying to appease us.
The whole thing stinks.

Sri am I missing something here? Kruger is absolutely right. He was asked and he answered. He was under contract before the programme he was under contract during te programme and he's under contract now. Nothing has changed. The same with JROD.
Why would Schneiderlin automatically think he was up for sale?
The others went because they wanted to go or had been tapped and somebody was willing to pay their inflated prices. Ralph was right the deal was right for Saints end of story. Kruger may have had appeasing the fans in mind or he might not - can't read his thoughts. The two players I wanted to keep were Spyder and Nat - we kept them. Barnet I reckon you won't be happy with anything until you and your ideas are prove right - perhaps you'd like to remind us what they are?
He has said Saints is not being sold and the only plan they have is to improve the club - now you either believe it or you don't.

[quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote:
This whole saga beggars belief.
Kruger has gone on national radio and stated that MS is not for sale.
Great!
Finally some good news.
Surely to god the player would have known about this and presumably ok, but no.
We the fans find out before he does.
Now MS is behaving like a brat but above all, Kruger has made a monumental balls up by trying to appease us.
The whole thing stinks.[/p][/quote]Sri am I missing something here? Kruger is absolutely right. He was asked and he answered. He was under contract before the programme he was under contract during te programme and he's under contract now. Nothing has changed. The same with JROD.
Why would Schneiderlin automatically think he was up for sale?
The others went because they wanted to go or had been tapped and somebody was willing to pay their inflated prices. Ralph was right the deal was right for Saints end of story. Kruger may have had appeasing the fans in mind or he might not - can't read his thoughts. The two players I wanted to keep were Spyder and Nat - we kept them. Barnet I reckon you won't be happy with anything until you and your ideas are prove right - perhaps you'd like to remind us what they are?
He has said Saints is not being sold and the only plan they have is to improve the club - now you either believe it or you don't.jls217

Saintade wrote:
Latest on TalkSport is that they think the chairman's interview was just a front to get the most money for Schneiderlin they can. Interesting thought.
It's an interesting interview if you haven't heard it all on the TalkSport website, but difficult to believe him. Quotes like &quot;Every penny of the money we've made will be reinvested in new players and wages" - may come back to bite Kruger...I'm keeping tabs on the spend and bet we don't spend anything like the money we've earned.

Are you suggesting because we have it we should spend it all in this window?

[quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote:
Latest on TalkSport is that they think the chairman's interview was just a front to get the most money for Schneiderlin they can. Interesting thought.
It's an interesting interview if you haven't heard it all on the TalkSport website, but difficult to believe him. Quotes like "Every penny of the money we've made will be reinvested in new players and wages" - may come back to bite Kruger...I'm keeping tabs on the spend and bet we don't spend anything like the money we've earned.[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting because we have it we should spend it all in this window?ctsaint

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Baz I'm sorry to hear about the adversities your wife is facing. I wish you both the best.

I also wish you all the best and a speedy recovery for your wife.

[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Baz I'm sorry to hear about the adversities your wife is facing. I wish you both the best.[/p][/quote]I also wish you all the best and a speedy recovery for your wife.nomorerumours

Bloomin 'eck Ralph, please tell me there was dialogue with MS before you went on radio?

Not angry anymore.....you simply have to laugh, has anyone ever witnessed the like?

Some read into every word like.....ok Ralph has categorically stated JRod and MS will not be sold therefore others were saying, ok then, that means Clyne and Cork will be going instead.

This whole close of season period must be one huge laugh and joke. Am i about to wake up from a nightmare or something?

Just laugh now.....certainly not even worrying about anymore. The whole club from top to bottom, players, staff and directors appear to be a bunch of amateurs. Hilarious.

Bloomin 'eck Ralph, please tell me there was dialogue with MS before you went on radio?
Not angry anymore.....you simply have to laugh, has anyone ever witnessed the like?
Some read into every word like.....ok Ralph has categorically stated JRod and MS will not be sold therefore others were saying, ok then, that means Clyne and Cork will be going instead.
This whole close of season period must be one huge laugh and joke. Am i about to wake up from a nightmare or something?
Just laugh now.....certainly not even worrying about anymore. The whole club from top to bottom, players, staff and directors appear to be a bunch of amateurs. Hilarious.NewForestStu

The football world is watching and commenting on our club the only way to answer the critics/p** takers and keyboard warriors is announce a few good signings let the wannago's go and get on with the serious business at hand, laughing at wet spam!

The football world is watching and commenting on our club the only way to answer the critics/p** takers and keyboard warriors is announce a few good signings let the wannago's go and get on with the serious business at hand, laughing at wet spam!mbetts

What the he'll is going. The board need sacking? The club needs selling to someone who gives a poo,I can't help feeling if the club meant so much to the fat cow that there would have bent over backwards to keep mo po and this square together. I'm sorry but the heart of the squad that have come up the ranks together has been ripped apart. I can't blame the players for wanting to leave.the board have shown no ambition to push on from last season it's made my beloved club a laughing stock. Now we going to do a Sunderland buy about 9 rubbish foreigns and struggle like hell so I can't blame the spider for wanting more, come back nico life wasn't that bad under your leadership

What the he'll is going. The board need sacking? The club needs selling to someone who gives a poo,I can't help feeling if the club meant so much to the fat cow that there would have bent over backwards to keep mo po and this square together. I'm sorry but the heart of the squad that have come up the ranks together has been ripped apart. I can't blame the players for wanting to leave.the board have shown no ambition to push on from last season it's made my beloved club a laughing stock. Now we going to do a Sunderland buy about 9 rubbish foreigns and struggle like hell so I can't blame the spider for wanting more, come back nico life wasn't that bad under your leadershipmattthecat1980

A few have alluded to this already, but to me Morgan's "tweet" doesn't make sense.

6 years of an amazing journey #saintsfc DESTROYED in 1 hour!!

If the last 6 years have been an amazing journey at Southampton, Morgan, then how can it be "destroyed" by being told you're not for sale????

A few have alluded to this already, but to me Morgan's "tweet" doesn't make sense.
6 years of an amazing journey #saintsfc DESTROYED in 1 hour!!
If the last 6 years have been an amazing journey at Southampton, Morgan, then how can it be "destroyed" by being told you're not for sale????Kings Lynn Saint

peregrine73 wrote:
Obviously Krueger hadn't discussed anything with spider and probably jay rod!.The club is imploding in front of our eyes,due to poor management,amazing spin and cashing in by the owner.The way its going is simply a complete capitulation .The players know the club will be sold and all will want to get away.It's going to be a rough ride with survival the priority.

Why would they want to go if they "know it's being sold?" You can't just make a statement without at least a logical assumption to back it up? New owner could be the Sultan of Brunei or Carlos Slim and lavish squilions on them? Drop the conspiracy b8ll0x and see it for what it is. greed and disloyalty beyond belief!

[quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote:
Obviously Krueger hadn't discussed anything with spider and probably jay rod!.The club is imploding in front of our eyes,due to poor management,amazing spin and cashing in by the owner.The way its going is simply a complete capitulation .The players know the club will be sold and all will want to get away.It's going to be a rough ride with survival the priority.[/p][/quote]Why would they want to go if they "know it's being sold?" You can't just make a statement without at least a logical assumption to back it up? New owner could be the Sultan of Brunei or Carlos Slim and lavish squilions on them? Drop the conspiracy b8ll0x and see it for what it is. greed and disloyalty beyond belief!ctsaint

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Baz I'm sorry to hear about the adversities your wife is facing. I wish you both the best.

All the best to you and your wife baz,gave us all a reality check.

[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Baz I'm sorry to hear about the adversities your wife is facing. I wish you both the best.[/p][/quote]All the best to you and your wife baz,gave us all a reality check.Sammy2sheds

Morgan,
I have been a Saints supporter for 62 years through thick and thin. We spend lots of money as supporters to enable you to have a good wage, had it not been for Southampton buying you in the first instance you would not be an international, or a top player in the Premiership. Where is your loyalty to the supporters and the club, players were parading around St Marys at the end of the season kissing the badge which obviously meant nothing. I think that you just need to honour your contract and prove your worth and grow up a little bit.

Morgan,
I have been a Saints supporter for 62 years through thick and thin. We spend lots of money as supporters to enable you to have a good wage, had it not been for Southampton buying you in the first instance you would not be an international, or a top player in the Premiership. Where is your loyalty to the supporters and the club, players were parading around St Marys at the end of the season kissing the badge which obviously meant nothing. I think that you just need to honour your contract and prove your worth and grow up a little bit.dsmoorebarlow

Make him honour his contract if he sulks put him with the reserves for a few months likewise with J Rod if he does the same we are paying J ROd while he is injured providing top medical help least he can do is give us what he can next season. I think everyone needs to calm down the club is not for sale we will get new players in and we have a much better management team in place. The Board are professionals with the task of taking us further. To do that the club needs a much bigger revenue base with which to pay a high wage structure and thus compete with the big guns. So how about giving RC our total support and look forward to maybe a cup or two next season. I for one was never that impressed with Poch.... He had one goal: get us in the top half and leave. He did so thanks very much for a great season but you never had plan B 70% possession with no goals is not a good game plan. Once the special one figured us out it was a slow downhill run from there. So have faith in RC I think he is perfect for us and will build the team he wants not the one left behind by Poch.

Make him honour his contract if he sulks put him with the reserves for a few months likewise with J Rod if he does the same we are paying J ROd while he is injured providing top medical help least he can do is give us what he can next season. I think everyone needs to calm down the club is not for sale we will get new players in and we have a much better management team in place. The Board are professionals with the task of taking us further. To do that the club needs a much bigger revenue base with which to pay a high wage structure and thus compete with the big guns. So how about giving RC our total support and look forward to maybe a cup or two next season. I for one was never that impressed with Poch.... He had one goal: get us in the top half and leave. He did so thanks very much for a great season but you never had plan B 70% possession with no goals is not a good game plan. Once the special one figured us out it was a slow downhill run from there. So have faith in RC I think he is perfect for us and will build the team he wants not the one left behind by Poch.mikesugar

Let Morgan rot his contract out until he can join David Bentley at retiring before he is 30 and miss out on any International career. PLEASE can the Saints Board stand firm with anymore ungrateful greedy players now they have the money in the bank to do so.

All we need is a new Centre Back to replace DL.
GP and DT already replaced AL and RL.
Matty Targett has to be worth a chance at replacing the unfit Shaw!
Clyne was always better than CC.

Jury out on Jay but I fancy Sam Gallagher will be better in long run or better still could Gaston now rise and stand up at the plate!

So come on Saints fans keep the faith, it is not all that bad!!

COYR

Let Morgan rot his contract out until he can join David Bentley at retiring before he is 30 and miss out on any International career. PLEASE can the Saints Board stand firm with anymore ungrateful greedy players now they have the money in the bank to do so.
All we need is a new Centre Back to replace DL.
GP and DT already replaced AL and RL.
Matty Targett has to be worth a chance at replacing the unfit Shaw!
Clyne was always better than CC.
Please get Jordy Claise to replace the rotting Morgan, Wanyama is our holding Midfielder.
Jury out on Jay but I fancy Sam Gallagher will be better in long run or better still could Gaston now rise and stand up at the plate!
So come on Saints fans keep the faith, it is not all that bad!!
COYRSimply Saints

Morgan Schneiderlin the guy who couldn't even get on the pitch twice away to Yeovil Town in league 1. I'm reminded of the Human League song "don't you want me"
You were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar
When I met you
I picked you out, I shook you up
And turned you around
Turned you into someone new
Now five years later on you've got the world at your feet
Success has been so easy for you
But don't forget it's me who put you where you are now
And I can put you back down too.

Morgan Schneiderlin the guy who couldn't even get on the pitch twice away to Yeovil Town in league 1. I'm reminded of the Human League song "don't you want me"
You were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar
When I met you
I picked you out, I shook you up
And turned you around
Turned you into someone new
Now five years later on you've got the world at your feet
Success has been so easy for you
But don't forget it's me who put you where you are now
And I can put you back down too.Sherborne Saint

StElsass wrote:
I see that those who were calling on the board to show some guts and put there foot down are now complaining because they did just that! Great stuff!
Only my assumption but I would have thought that the hour he mentions in his tweet probably refers to the meeting he had with the club before the announcement was made?

Those criticising the board have tiny grains and are driven by emotion, as evidenced by the fact that they will moan about pretty much anything without backing it up with logic, a coherent argument or fact. The common thread is supposition, conspiracy theories and abuse.

I know SFC will be here come what may, I know I will support whoever the 11 players are who turn up and I hope that as fans we get behind the club.

The players have zero loyalty (with v few exceptions) , the fans love the club and have the loyalty, the board are the custodians faced with a thankless task.

I would love to see the clowns who constantly criticise come up with a plan that doesn't involve doing a Leeds Utd.......the world is full of idiots, It seems many of them are players and even more are so called fans.

[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote:
I see that those who were calling on the board to show some guts and put there foot down are now complaining because they did just that! Great stuff!
Only my assumption but I would have thought that the hour he mentions in his tweet probably refers to the meeting he had with the club before the announcement was made?[/p][/quote]Those criticising the board have tiny grains and are driven by emotion, as evidenced by the fact that they will moan about pretty much anything without backing it up with logic, a coherent argument or fact. The common thread is supposition, conspiracy theories and abuse.
I know SFC will be here come what may, I know I will support whoever the 11 players are who turn up and I hope that as fans we get behind the club.
The players have zero loyalty (with v few exceptions) , the fans love the club and have the loyalty, the board are the custodians faced with a thankless task.
I would love to see the clowns who constantly criticise come up with a plan that doesn't involve doing a Leeds Utd.......the world is full of idiots, It seems many of them are players and even more are so called fans.ctsaint

Chapperall wrote:
Here we go again. Just another **** up ! You would gave thought they would have spoke to the players first wouldn't you. Bloody shambles.
I wonder where this going to as Kruger will lose some face if this goes pear shaped. However we should make Spider clear that he won't be allowed to go and that's it. Need to make a stand sometime ! I wonder what all the happy clappers are saying now .

I've been accused of being a happy clapper (whatever that means) I'm saying fantastic interview - Club not being sold, money going to improve the club, and a player finally slapped back into his box - This tells me they've got the money they needed and they've cleared the decks of some whiners now to work on some winners.
I think Spyder has already got the message which is why he's joined the ranks of the whiners. If in a year he's still whining maybe time to move him on then - I hope not though.
If it goes pear shaped Kruger will lose more than just some face and we will lose our place in the PL so don't go wishing for it!

[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote:
Here we go again. Just another **** up ! You would gave thought they would have spoke to the players first wouldn't you. Bloody shambles.
I wonder where this going to as Kruger will lose some face if this goes pear shaped. However we should make Spider clear that he won't be allowed to go and that's it. Need to make a stand sometime ! I wonder what all the happy clappers are saying now .[/p][/quote]I've been accused of being a happy clapper (whatever that means) I'm saying fantastic interview - Club not being sold, money going to improve the club, and a player finally slapped back into his box - This tells me they've got the money they needed and they've cleared the decks of some whiners now to work on some winners.
I think Spyder has already got the message which is why he's joined the ranks of the whiners. If in a year he's still whining maybe time to move him on then - I hope not though.
If it goes pear shaped Kruger will lose more than just some face and we will lose our place in the PL so don't go wishing for it!jls217

The only person worthy of the captaincy is Kelvin! Shame he's past it, he's the only loyal player we've got.

Fuuck you very much Morgan!
Another greedy cuunt.
I wonder if our supporters still want him to be our captain?? LOL
The only person worthy of the captaincy is Kelvin! Shame he's past it, he's the only loyal player we've got.SouthamptonLegend

These players should think hard before signing new contracts with the club. Like someone earlier pointed out they are happy enough at the time to sign these 4-5 year deals and take the money. Then when it suits they want to leave and spit the dummy when they are told otherwise to try and engineer a move. In this case i think Morgan has shown his true colours as it is obvious he wants to leave the same as all the others as demonstrated by his outburst.

Saints have every right to tell him he is going nowhere, he's only a year into a 4-5 year contract? If he had no intention of staying 5 years why sign for that long? If he had a year left then Saints would be forced to sell or risk losing him for nothing. May as well not bother with contracts, not worth the paper!!

These players should think hard before signing new contracts with the club. Like someone earlier pointed out they are happy enough at the time to sign these 4-5 year deals and take the money. Then when it suits they want to leave and spit the dummy when they are told otherwise to try and engineer a move. In this case i think Morgan has shown his true colours as it is obvious he wants to leave the same as all the others as demonstrated by his outburst.
Saints have every right to tell him he is going nowhere, he's only a year into a 4-5 year contract? If he had no intention of staying 5 years why sign for that long? If he had a year left then Saints would be forced to sell or risk losing him for nothing. May as well not bother with contracts, not worth the paper!!sm170368

StElsass wrote:
I see that those who were calling on the board to show some guts and put there foot down are now complaining because they did just that! Great stuff!
Only my assumption but I would have thought that the hour he mentions in his tweet probably refers to the meeting he had with the club before the announcement was made?

Those criticising the board have tiny grains and are driven by emotion, as evidenced by the fact that they will moan about pretty much anything without backing it up with logic, a coherent argument or fact. The common thread is supposition, conspiracy theories and abuse.

I know SFC will be here come what may, I know I will support whoever the 11 players are who turn up and I hope that as fans we get behind the club.

The players have zero loyalty (with v few exceptions) , the fans love the club and have the loyalty, the board are the custodians faced with a thankless task.

I would love to see the clowns who constantly criticise come up with a plan that doesn't involve doing a Leeds Utd.......the world is full of idiots, It seems many of them are players and even more are so called fans.

For NC read Peter Ridsdale.......the Leibher family do not "owe us" anything , let alone a further £200m investment, we owe them the the fact we have a club at all.

[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote:
I see that those who were calling on the board to show some guts and put there foot down are now complaining because they did just that! Great stuff!
Only my assumption but I would have thought that the hour he mentions in his tweet probably refers to the meeting he had with the club before the announcement was made?[/p][/quote]Those criticising the board have tiny grains and are driven by emotion, as evidenced by the fact that they will moan about pretty much anything without backing it up with logic, a coherent argument or fact. The common thread is supposition, conspiracy theories and abuse.
I know SFC will be here come what may, I know I will support whoever the 11 players are who turn up and I hope that as fans we get behind the club.
The players have zero loyalty (with v few exceptions) , the fans love the club and have the loyalty, the board are the custodians faced with a thankless task.
I would love to see the clowns who constantly criticise come up with a plan that doesn't involve doing a Leeds Utd.......the world is full of idiots, It seems many of them are players and even more are so called fans.[/p][/quote]For NC read Peter Ridsdale.......the Leibher family do not "owe us" anything , let alone a further £200m investment, we owe them the the fact we have a club at all.ctsaint

saintsfan76 wrote:
Never sent a tweet in my life or used it. No idea why Morgan would be so angry. The clubs supporters voted him player of the season a couple of years back. To lose 5 players from a team of the calibre we have is almost unheard of in one go. Even in the Premier League. We need a core of established players to stay. That is obvious. We need to shut up shop on the exodus. If wages are a major problem then discuss with Morgan; after all we now have plenty of money.

One thing sending a Tweet like this won't do is gain any support of the supporters. If you thought that Morgan you are mistaken.

Tweets / public messages like this are done deliberately to turn the fans against the player, to make player / fan harmony unattainable. This tweet will have been readied and maybe even posted by an advisor/agent and probably has been ready to go for a couple of weeks.

Morgan WILL have known that this was the clubs position. He will have ben told when he returned. He knew this announcement would happen.

So support from us is exactly what he doesn't want, he doesn't want to be captain and clearly doesn't want to play either. He wants to break bonds and force the leave ... just like Adam, just like Dejan.

Have to say im saddened by it, but we have to stick by our guns and KEEP him. Even if he sits in reserves until October. I actually would be happy with a defensive trio of cork,victor and JWP (this will be his BIG year) anyway.......

[quote][p][bold]saintsfan76[/bold] wrote:
Never sent a tweet in my life or used it. No idea why Morgan would be so angry. The clubs supporters voted him player of the season a couple of years back. To lose 5 players from a team of the calibre we have is almost unheard of in one go. Even in the Premier League. We need a core of established players to stay. That is obvious. We need to shut up shop on the exodus. If wages are a major problem then discuss with Morgan; after all we now have plenty of money.
One thing sending a Tweet like this won't do is gain any support of the supporters. If you thought that Morgan you are mistaken.[/p][/quote]Tweets / public messages like this are done deliberately to turn the fans against the player, to make player / fan harmony unattainable. This tweet will have been readied and maybe even posted by an advisor/agent and probably has been ready to go for a couple of weeks.
Morgan WILL have known that this was the clubs position. He will have ben told when he returned. He knew this announcement would happen.
So support from us is exactly what he doesn't want, he doesn't want to be captain and clearly doesn't want to play either. He wants to break bonds and force the leave ... just like Adam, just like Dejan.
Have to say im saddened by it, but we have to stick by our guns and KEEP him. Even if he sits in reserves until October. I actually would be happy with a defensive trio of cork,victor and JWP (this will be his BIG year) anyway.......BumperSaint

Kings Lynn Saint wrote:
A few have alluded to this already, but to me Morgan's &quot;tweet" doesn't make sense.

6 years of an amazing journey #saintsfc DESTROYED in 1 hour!!

If the last 6 years have been an amazing journey at Southampton, Morgan, then how can it be "destroyed" by being told you're not for sale????

That's the problem mate, footballers are not very bright.

[quote][p][bold]Kings Lynn Saint[/bold] wrote:
A few have alluded to this already, but to me Morgan's "tweet" doesn't make sense.
6 years of an amazing journey #saintsfc DESTROYED in 1 hour!!
If the last 6 years have been an amazing journey at Southampton, Morgan, then how can it be "destroyed" by being told you're not for sale????[/p][/quote]That's the problem mate, footballers are not very bright.ctsaint

I'm pleased that the chairman has made this public statement. By taking this stand he is not only protecting the rights of our club, but those of other clubs our size. The power is with the Agents and Players, it should be with the clubs, the owners and the fans. Here is a real chance to show that.

Mr Chairman keep your stance with this. It is better to keep the players, if they don't want to play, then fine them + stick them in the reserves to rot.

Keeping the faith, up the Saints!

I'm pleased that the chairman has made this public statement. By taking this stand he is not only protecting the rights of our club, but those of other clubs our size. The power is with the Agents and Players, it should be with the clubs, the owners and the fans. Here is a real chance to show that.
Mr Chairman keep your stance with this. It is better to keep the players, if they don't want to play, then fine them + stick them in the reserves to rot.
Keeping the faith, up the Saints!SwissToni

CharlieOxbridge wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider &amp; JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.

What is most frightening is that you think you can see exactly what the board are doing - stop being so silly. You can't really can you, go on, admit it, you can't.
Let us know what the voices are telling you the board is doing please.

[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider & JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.[/p][/quote]What is most frightening is that you think you can see exactly what the board are doing - stop being so silly. You can't really can you, go on, admit it, you can't.
Let us know what the voices are telling you the board is doing please.jls217

Saintade wrote:
Latest on TalkSport is that they think the chairman's interview was just a front to get the most money for Schneiderlin they can. Interesting thought.
It's an interesting interview if you haven't heard it all on the TalkSport website, but difficult to believe him. Quotes like &quot;Every penny of the money we've made will be reinvested in new players and wages" - may come back to bite Kruger...I'm keeping tabs on the spend and bet we don't spend anything like the money we've earned.

Are you suggesting because we have it we should spend it all in this window?

W would need to if we want to survive in the PL Plus another £30m on top You pay peanuts you get monkeys

[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote:
Latest on TalkSport is that they think the chairman's interview was just a front to get the most money for Schneiderlin they can. Interesting thought.
It's an interesting interview if you haven't heard it all on the TalkSport website, but difficult to believe him. Quotes like "Every penny of the money we've made will be reinvested in new players and wages" - may come back to bite Kruger...I'm keeping tabs on the spend and bet we don't spend anything like the money we've earned.[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting because we have it we should spend it all in this window?[/p][/quote]W would need to if we want to survive in the PL Plus another £30m on top You pay peanuts you get monkeysSaintsayer II

mattthecat1980 wrote:
What the he'll is going. The board need sacking? The club needs selling to someone who gives a poo,I can't help feeling if the club meant so much to the fat cow that there would have bent over backwards to keep mo po and this square together. I'm sorry but the heart of the squad that have come up the ranks together has been ripped apart. I can't blame the players for wanting to leave.the board have shown no ambition to push on from last season it's made my beloved club a laughing stock. Now we going to do a Sunderland buy about 9 rubbish foreigns and struggle like hell so I can't blame the spider for wanting more, come back nico life wasn't that bad under your leadership

You wouldn't have a club if it wasn't for the "fat cows" £50m. You are as disloyal as the players ,go support the club they join...... What right do we have to "expect" our owners to further bank roll unsustainable business palm to satisfy greedy ungrateful players and greedy ungrateful fans like you? Ridsdale, Leeds , crooks/pompey is that what you want? You are a disgrace and so is anyone else who thinks name calling our saviour and blaming the current events on her and her advisors. Crawl back into your cave.

[quote][p][bold]mattthecat1980[/bold] wrote:
What the he'll is going. The board need sacking? The club needs selling to someone who gives a poo,I can't help feeling if the club meant so much to the fat cow that there would have bent over backwards to keep mo po and this square together. I'm sorry but the heart of the squad that have come up the ranks together has been ripped apart. I can't blame the players for wanting to leave.the board have shown no ambition to push on from last season it's made my beloved club a laughing stock. Now we going to do a Sunderland buy about 9 rubbish foreigns and struggle like hell so I can't blame the spider for wanting more, come back nico life wasn't that bad under your leadership[/p][/quote]You wouldn't have a club if it wasn't for the "fat cows" £50m. You are as disloyal as the players ,go support the club they join...... What right do we have to "expect" our owners to further bank roll unsustainable business palm to satisfy greedy ungrateful players and greedy ungrateful fans like you? Ridsdale, Leeds , crooks/pompey is that what you want? You are a disgrace and so is anyone else who thinks name calling our saviour and blaming the current events on her and her advisors. Crawl back into your cave.ctsaint

I wonder if he actually wrote it.Could it be his agent?.Cant believe Spurs met his valuation. Ralph said they wont be sold this summer.Does not rule out the next window.J Rod will be playing by then.

I wonder if he actually wrote it.Could it be his agent?.Cant believe Spurs met his valuation. Ralph said they wont be sold this summer.Does not rule out the next window.J Rod will be playing by then.smuggins

So he's spewing about the club selling players and also spewing he's not one of them.. Was he kissing the badge cos it had chocolate on it? He should give RK a chance for FS... Immature outburst.

So he's spewing about the club selling players and also spewing he's not one of them.. Was he kissing the badge cos it had chocolate on it? He should give RK a chance for FS... Immature outburst.ShanoBrizzy

Saintade wrote:
Latest on TalkSport is that they think the chairman's interview was just a front to get the most money for Schneiderlin they can. Interesting thought.
It's an interesting interview if you haven't heard it all on the TalkSport website, but difficult to believe him. Quotes like &quot;Every penny of the money we've made will be reinvested in new players and wages" - may come back to bite Kruger...I'm keeping tabs on the spend and bet we don't spend anything like the money we've earned.

Are you suggesting because we have it we should spend it all in this window?

W would need to if we want to survive in the PL Plus another £30m on top You pay peanuts you get monkeys

We paid nothing/very little for the players you lament leaving....they all played in league one. The academy guys (5 of them) coming through now are of the same cloth........where the guys we just sold for £92m monkeys ? Following your logic they are? Is Olsvaldo not a monkey because he cost £14m .engage brain and then type something that makes sense.

[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote:
Latest on TalkSport is that they think the chairman's interview was just a front to get the most money for Schneiderlin they can. Interesting thought.
It's an interesting interview if you haven't heard it all on the TalkSport website, but difficult to believe him. Quotes like "Every penny of the money we've made will be reinvested in new players and wages" - may come back to bite Kruger...I'm keeping tabs on the spend and bet we don't spend anything like the money we've earned.[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting because we have it we should spend it all in this window?[/p][/quote]W would need to if we want to survive in the PL Plus another £30m on top You pay peanuts you get monkeys[/p][/quote]We paid nothing/very little for the players you lament leaving....they all played in league one. The academy guys (5 of them) coming through now are of the same cloth........where the guys we just sold for £92m monkeys ? Following your logic they are? Is Olsvaldo not a monkey because he cost £14m .engage brain and then type something that makes sense.ctsaint

The Board seem damed if they do and damed if they don't. All Ralph said is that he wants to keep J Rod and MS and that we are hoping to sign 3 players by the end of the week. Now if MS wants to go and isn't happy It is purely down to his greed/ambition. What would you have done in Ralph's position ? Tell him to stay - anger from MS, let him go, anger from the fans. Make an example of him? It is easy to say that but if his value drops 15m after a year in the reserves then people will get angry about that too.

I'd agree with people that the board weren't any good if they did a West Brom and hired a nobody on the cheap, but they got in a former world class player who just got a team into the champions league. This isn't Rupert Lowe Hiring Steve Wigley or Paul Sturrock, this is Ronald Koeman, we did well to bring him here and the players have no reason to complain.

What must Kelvin Davies think? He stayed with us despite a premier league offer when we were in L1.

Morgan should apologise and put in 100% in next season or we should loan him out to the Cherries!

The Board seem damed if they do and damed if they don't. All Ralph said is that he wants to keep J Rod and MS and that we are hoping to sign 3 players by the end of the week. Now if MS wants to go and isn't happy It is purely down to his greed/ambition. What would you have done in Ralph's position ? Tell him to stay - anger from MS, let him go, anger from the fans. Make an example of him? It is easy to say that but if his value drops 15m after a year in the reserves then people will get angry about that too.
I'd agree with people that the board weren't any good if they did a West Brom and hired a nobody on the cheap, but they got in a former world class player who just got a team into the champions league. This isn't Rupert Lowe Hiring Steve Wigley or Paul Sturrock, this is Ronald Koeman, we did well to bring him here and the players have no reason to complain.
What must Kelvin Davies think? He stayed with us despite a premier league offer when we were in L1.
Morgan should apologise and put in 100% in next season or we should loan him out to the Cherries!insider1234

Spider will go, Ralph will have to go, the board are just asset stripping , this is nothing unusual for a small successful business. Ron must be gutted he came now and reckon he may well go to before the season kicks off

Spider will go, Ralph will have to go, the board are just asset stripping , this is nothing unusual for a small successful business. Ron must be gutted he came now and reckon he may well go to before the season kicks offssesaint

rawcask wrote:
He should be fined. Be a professional and keep any negative comments to himself or confront the management. I say fine him! Les Reed should play hardball.

Should learn football first.

I say leave les reed and take all the tw,ts with you

[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]rawcask[/bold] wrote:
He should be fined. Be a professional and keep any negative comments to himself or confront the management. I say fine him! Les Reed should play hardball.[/p][/quote]Should learn football first.[/p][/quote]I say leave les reed and take all the tw,ts with yousaint61

I may be in a minority of one, but I really can't blame MS's reaction. He has stuck by Saints thru a drop to League 1 and revelled in our great journey back to the Premiership. As with Ricki and Lala, I really can't bring myself to criticise him. They've all given given long and faithful service but now they see trouble at the top and they want to secure their future. Instead, the blame lies 100% with the new Board. This is textbook mismanagement - dictate to the staff and sod the customer (ie faithful Saints fans) - classic recipe for disaster! What must be now one of the most cash-rich football clubs in the world is slowly losing the fight for survival in the Premiership before a ball has been kicked in the new season. I assumed from what Krueger said that he had spoken to MS and JR and assured them of 'the journey' ahead. Clearly, this was mistaken. Rather than getting them on board and their full support, he's dictated to them they will not be allowed to leave. Marvellous!! So MS and JR refuse to play or play poorly to force the club's hand. We now have demotivated players, youngsters who will find life difficult thru inexperience and our Premiership survival on a knife-edge. Like everyone else I've no idea what 'the plan' is, but it sure as hell looks like a sale to me too. Just pray Cortese (in spite of his faults) does another rescue for us. Christ, to have gotten so close to unthinkable to success, how depressing to have the bubble burst!!

I may be in a minority of one, but I really can't blame MS's reaction. He has stuck by Saints thru a drop to League 1 and revelled in our great journey back to the Premiership. As with Ricki and Lala, I really can't bring myself to criticise him. They've all given given long and faithful service but now they see trouble at the top and they want to secure their future. Instead, the blame lies 100% with the new Board. This is textbook mismanagement - dictate to the staff and sod the customer (ie faithful Saints fans) - classic recipe for disaster! What must be now one of the most cash-rich football clubs in the world is slowly losing the fight for survival in the Premiership before a ball has been kicked in the new season. I assumed from what Krueger said that he had spoken to MS and JR and assured them of 'the journey' ahead. Clearly, this was mistaken. Rather than getting them on board and their full support, he's dictated to them they will not be allowed to leave. Marvellous!! So MS and JR refuse to play or play poorly to force the club's hand. We now have demotivated players, youngsters who will find life difficult thru inexperience and our Premiership survival on a knife-edge. Like everyone else I've no idea what 'the plan' is, but it sure as hell looks like a sale to me too. Just pray Cortese (in spite of his faults) does another rescue for us. Christ, to have gotten so close to unthinkable to success, how depressing to have the bubble burst!!saint bartley

Saintade wrote:
Latest on TalkSport is that they think the chairman's interview was just a front to get the most money for Schneiderlin they can. Interesting thought.
It's an interesting interview if you haven't heard it all on the TalkSport website, but difficult to believe him. Quotes like &quot;Every penny of the money we've made will be reinvested in new players and wages" - may come back to bite Kruger...I'm keeping tabs on the spend and bet we don't spend anything like the money we've earned.

Are you suggesting because we have it we should spend it all in this window?

That's a very good point. The Rambo bros knows this business inside out as does Les Reed. I would suggest to you that they will be keeping a healthy wedge of the cash for January sales. Who know who might be injured or sulking at that point. Maybe Rambo thinks he needs support down the flanks or another CF so it won't all be spent in one go. The academy in the USA if it comes off will cost a pretty penny to set up unless it is being done in conjunction with an American club. Nothing is cheap in this game.

[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote:
Latest on TalkSport is that they think the chairman's interview was just a front to get the most money for Schneiderlin they can. Interesting thought.
It's an interesting interview if you haven't heard it all on the TalkSport website, but difficult to believe him. Quotes like "Every penny of the money we've made will be reinvested in new players and wages" - may come back to bite Kruger...I'm keeping tabs on the spend and bet we don't spend anything like the money we've earned.[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting because we have it we should spend it all in this window?[/p][/quote]That's a very good point. The Rambo bros knows this business inside out as does Les Reed. I would suggest to you that they will be keeping a healthy wedge of the cash for January sales. Who know who might be injured or sulking at that point. Maybe Rambo thinks he needs support down the flanks or another CF so it won't all be spent in one go. The academy in the USA if it comes off will cost a pretty penny to set up unless it is being done in conjunction with an American club. Nothing is cheap in this game.jls217

Are house maybe well and truly knocked down, but we still have good foundations. Lets get the first building blocks in place and go from there. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON!,WE WILL STAND!, NO MORE STEPS BACK.

Are house maybe well and truly knocked down, but we still have good foundations. Lets get the first building blocks in place and go from there. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON!,WE WILL STAND!, NO MORE STEPS BACK.SaintMiddleton

Morgan, please show some respect. JRod has again delivered as a true professional. Not a word or a whisper. Well done Jay a true Englishman that won't roll over as soon as the big guns invade!!!!

Morgan, please show some respect. JRod has again delivered as a true professional. Not a word or a whisper. Well done Jay a true Englishman that won't roll over as soon as the big guns invade!!!!yellowlovebus

CharlieOxbridge wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider &amp; JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.

If Spider and JRod leave - then Ralph Krueger will have no creditability like Les Reed and that will be a MASSIVE VOTE of NO CONFIDENCE in him personally and the Board.

I think it is fair to say that RK and his reputation as Chairman is on the line.

If the Players DO NOT STAY and PLAY this Season and honour their contracts - then it is a resigning matter for the Chairman.

No it's not. If the players decide to pull the, I'm not going to fulfill my contract by running my risshole off for this club that is putting the food on my table and the player doesn't get fined or farmed out then it's a resigning matter for the chairman. Not before.

[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider & JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.[/p][/quote]If Spider and JRod leave - then Ralph Krueger will have no creditability like Les Reed and that will be a MASSIVE VOTE of NO CONFIDENCE in him personally and the Board.
I think it is fair to say that RK and his reputation as Chairman is on the line.
If the Players DO NOT STAY and PLAY this Season and honour their contracts - then it is a resigning matter for the Chairman.[/p][/quote]No it's not. If the players decide to pull the, I'm not going to fulfill my contract by running my risshole off for this club that is putting the food on my table and the player doesn't get fined or farmed out then it's a resigning matter for the chairman. Not before.jls217

gman209 wrote:
Get rid of all the jumped up prima donna spoilt little **** . Who the **** do they think they are ! They join a club as nobodies and are happy to sign a contract , then as soon as they think they are superstars they wanna leave !!!! Too much too soon . Thats the problem . You can poke the premier league , im finished with it .

You'll be back. You know it, I know it and so does everyone else reading your post. But we do feel your frustration mate and you're right to vent.
You are right though.

[quote][p][bold]gman209[/bold] wrote:
Get rid of all the jumped up prima donna spoilt little **** . Who the **** do they think they are ! They join a club as nobodies and are happy to sign a contract , then as soon as they think they are superstars they wanna leave !!!! Too much too soon . Thats the problem . You can poke the premier league , im finished with it .[/p][/quote]You'll be back. You know it, I know it and so does everyone else reading your post. But we do feel your frustration mate and you're right to vent.
You are right though.jls217

insider1234 wrote:
The Board seem damed if they do and damed if they don't. All Ralph said is that he wants to keep J Rod and MS and that we are hoping to sign 3 players by the end of the week. Now if MS wants to go and isn't happy It is purely down to his greed/ambition. What would you have done in Ralph's position ? Tell him to stay - anger from MS, let him go, anger from the fans. Make an example of him? It is easy to say that but if his value drops 15m after a year in the reserves then people will get angry about that too.

I'd agree with people that the board weren't any good if they did a West Brom and hired a nobody on the cheap, but they got in a former world class player who just got a team into the champions league. This isn't Rupert Lowe Hiring Steve Wigley or Paul Sturrock, this is Ronald Koeman, we did well to bring him here and the players have no reason to complain.

What must Kelvin Davies think? He stayed with us despite a premier league offer when we were in L1.

Morgan should apologise and put in 100% in next season or we should loan him out to the Cherries!

Sense at last, good post.

[quote][p][bold]insider1234[/bold] wrote:
The Board seem damed if they do and damed if they don't. All Ralph said is that he wants to keep J Rod and MS and that we are hoping to sign 3 players by the end of the week. Now if MS wants to go and isn't happy It is purely down to his greed/ambition. What would you have done in Ralph's position ? Tell him to stay - anger from MS, let him go, anger from the fans. Make an example of him? It is easy to say that but if his value drops 15m after a year in the reserves then people will get angry about that too.
I'd agree with people that the board weren't any good if they did a West Brom and hired a nobody on the cheap, but they got in a former world class player who just got a team into the champions league. This isn't Rupert Lowe Hiring Steve Wigley or Paul Sturrock, this is Ronald Koeman, we did well to bring him here and the players have no reason to complain.
What must Kelvin Davies think? He stayed with us despite a premier league offer when we were in L1.
Morgan should apologise and put in 100% in next season or we should loan him out to the Cherries![/p][/quote]Sense at last, good post.fascia123

I must hold my hand up and say I was wrong on the other thread.
Where did the comment about 1 hour meeting with Ralph and Morgan this afternoon emerge from. It would appear by the timing of the twittering he was not aware of Ralph's interviews. until this evening.

I must hold my hand up and say I was wrong on the other thread.
Where did the comment about 1 hour meeting with Ralph and Morgan this afternoon emerge from. It would appear by the timing of the twittering he was not aware of Ralph's interviews. until this evening.Invidia

Simply Saints wrote:
Let Morgan rot his contract out until he can join David Bentley at retiring before he is 30 and miss out on any International career. PLEASE can the Saints Board stand firm with anymore ungrateful greedy players now they have the money in the bank to do so.

All we need is a new Centre Back to replace DL.
GP and DT already replaced AL and RL.
Matty Targett has to be worth a chance at replacing the unfit Shaw!
Clyne was always better than CC.

Jury out on Jay but I fancy Sam Gallagher will be better in long run or better still could Gaston now rise and stand up at the plate!

So come on Saints fans keep the faith, it is not all that bad!!

COYR

I must say that I am surprised we have not heard from Wanyama through all of this. For some reason I would have put him high on the list of those that would kick off, but fair play to the lad.

The only one I would be surprised at if he was to act similar to DL, AL and now MS would be Corkie. Something tells me he might have an ounce of decency about himself and even if thinking the worst will keep his trap closed and just bide his time.

Having said that still a way to go before season starts.

[quote][p][bold]Simply Saints[/bold] wrote:
Let Morgan rot his contract out until he can join David Bentley at retiring before he is 30 and miss out on any International career. PLEASE can the Saints Board stand firm with anymore ungrateful greedy players now they have the money in the bank to do so.
All we need is a new Centre Back to replace DL.
GP and DT already replaced AL and RL.
Matty Targett has to be worth a chance at replacing the unfit Shaw!
Clyne was always better than CC.
Please get Jordy Claise to replace the rotting Morgan, Wanyama is our holding Midfielder.
Jury out on Jay but I fancy Sam Gallagher will be better in long run or better still could Gaston now rise and stand up at the plate!
So come on Saints fans keep the faith, it is not all that bad!!
COYR[/p][/quote]I must say that I am surprised we have not heard from Wanyama through all of this. For some reason I would have put him high on the list of those that would kick off, but fair play to the lad.
The only one I would be surprised at if he was to act similar to DL, AL and now MS would be Corkie. Something tells me he might have an ounce of decency about himself and even if thinking the worst will keep his trap closed and just bide his time.
Having said that still a way to go before season starts.NewForestStu

saint bartley wrote:
I may be in a minority of one, but I really can't blame MS's reaction. He has stuck by Saints thru a drop to League 1 and revelled in our great journey back to the Premiership. As with Ricki and Lala, I really can't bring myself to criticise him. They've all given given long and faithful service but now they see trouble at the top and they want to secure their future. Instead, the blame lies 100% with the new Board. This is textbook mismanagement - dictate to the staff and sod the customer (ie faithful Saints fans) - classic recipe for disaster! What must be now one of the most cash-rich football clubs in the world is slowly losing the fight for survival in the Premiership before a ball has been kicked in the new season. I assumed from what Krueger said that he had spoken to MS and JR and assured them of 'the journey' ahead. Clearly, this was mistaken. Rather than getting them on board and their full support, he's dictated to them they will not be allowed to leave. Marvellous!! So MS and JR refuse to play or play poorly to force the club's hand. We now have demotivated players, youngsters who will find life difficult thru inexperience and our Premiership survival on a knife-edge. Like everyone else I've no idea what 'the plan' is, but it sure as hell looks like a sale to me too. Just pray Cortese (in spite of his faults) does another rescue for us. Christ, to have gotten so close to unthinkable to success, how depressing to have the bubble burst!!

bollux

[quote][p][bold]saint bartley[/bold] wrote:
I may be in a minority of one, but I really can't blame MS's reaction. He has stuck by Saints thru a drop to League 1 and revelled in our great journey back to the Premiership. As with Ricki and Lala, I really can't bring myself to criticise him. They've all given given long and faithful service but now they see trouble at the top and they want to secure their future. Instead, the blame lies 100% with the new Board. This is textbook mismanagement - dictate to the staff and sod the customer (ie faithful Saints fans) - classic recipe for disaster! What must be now one of the most cash-rich football clubs in the world is slowly losing the fight for survival in the Premiership before a ball has been kicked in the new season. I assumed from what Krueger said that he had spoken to MS and JR and assured them of 'the journey' ahead. Clearly, this was mistaken. Rather than getting them on board and their full support, he's dictated to them they will not be allowed to leave. Marvellous!! So MS and JR refuse to play or play poorly to force the club's hand. We now have demotivated players, youngsters who will find life difficult thru inexperience and our Premiership survival on a knife-edge. Like everyone else I've no idea what 'the plan' is, but it sure as hell looks like a sale to me too. Just pray Cortese (in spite of his faults) does another rescue for us. Christ, to have gotten so close to unthinkable to success, how depressing to have the bubble burst!![/p][/quote]bolluxsteekeemcglue

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

best wishes to you and the other half Baz hope it all works out fine for you both.
ive had many dealings, and still do, with the NHS over the last few years, including physios and think they are absolutely brilliant and will do anything they can to help you both.
good luck mate.

[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]best wishes to you and the other half Baz hope it all works out fine for you both.
ive had many dealings, and still do, with the NHS over the last few years, including physios and think they are absolutely brilliant and will do anything they can to help you both.
good luck mate.de Heiligen paard 101

insider1234 wrote:
The Board seem damed if they do and damed if they don't. All Ralph said is that he wants to keep J Rod and MS and that we are hoping to sign 3 players by the end of the week. Now if MS wants to go and isn't happy It is purely down to his greed/ambition. What would you have done in Ralph's position ? Tell him to stay - anger from MS, let him go, anger from the fans. Make an example of him? It is easy to say that but if his value drops 15m after a year in the reserves then people will get angry about that too.

I'd agree with people that the board weren't any good if they did a West Brom and hired a nobody on the cheap, but they got in a former world class player who just got a team into the champions league. This isn't Rupert Lowe Hiring Steve Wigley or Paul Sturrock, this is Ronald Koeman, we did well to bring him here and the players have no reason to complain.

What must Kelvin Davies think? He stayed with us despite a premier league offer when we were in L1.

Morgan should apologise and put in 100% in next season or we should loan him out to the Cherries!

Sense at last, good post.

Agreed, I'm afraid the board cannot win. That said they have been pretty poor to date.....but as soon as Ralph appeared to do exactly what I wanted it backfired.

I just hope the club stand firm now, shame for Morgan as the rest have walked(mind you think he will anyway) but we need to stick him in the reserves now and under no circumstances should he be sold.

[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]insider1234[/bold] wrote:
The Board seem damed if they do and damed if they don't. All Ralph said is that he wants to keep J Rod and MS and that we are hoping to sign 3 players by the end of the week. Now if MS wants to go and isn't happy It is purely down to his greed/ambition. What would you have done in Ralph's position ? Tell him to stay - anger from MS, let him go, anger from the fans. Make an example of him? It is easy to say that but if his value drops 15m after a year in the reserves then people will get angry about that too.
I'd agree with people that the board weren't any good if they did a West Brom and hired a nobody on the cheap, but they got in a former world class player who just got a team into the champions league. This isn't Rupert Lowe Hiring Steve Wigley or Paul Sturrock, this is Ronald Koeman, we did well to bring him here and the players have no reason to complain.
What must Kelvin Davies think? He stayed with us despite a premier league offer when we were in L1.
Morgan should apologise and put in 100% in next season or we should loan him out to the Cherries![/p][/quote]Sense at last, good post.[/p][/quote]Agreed, I'm afraid the board cannot win. That said they have been pretty poor to date.....but as soon as Ralph appeared to do exactly what I wanted it backfired.
I just hope the club stand firm now, shame for Morgan as the rest have walked(mind you think he will anyway) but we need to stick him in the reserves now and under no circumstances should he be sold.NewForestStu

Saintade wrote:
Latest on TalkSport is that they think the chairman's interview was just a front to get the most money for Schneiderlin they can. Interesting thought.
It's an interesting interview if you haven't heard it all on the TalkSport website, but difficult to believe him. Quotes like &quot;Every penny of the money we've made will be reinvested in new players and wages" - may come back to bite Kruger...I'm keeping tabs on the spend and bet we don't spend anything like the money we've earned.

Are you suggesting because we have it we should spend it all in this window?

That's a very good point. The Rambo bros knows this business inside out as does Les Reed. I would suggest to you that they will be keeping a healthy wedge of the cash for January sales. Who know who might be injured or sulking at that point. Maybe Rambo thinks he needs support down the flanks or another CF so it won't all be spent in one go. The academy in the USA if it comes off will cost a pretty penny to set up unless it is being done in conjunction with an American club. Nothing is cheap in this game.

There is a very large future in Us football, as witnessed by their steady progress at world cups, it's also financially a huge single market so getting support out there would be good to drive revenue.

My point is that the doom merchants want us to sell nobody, pay top wages and buy stars that don't flop, or they blame the board. None of them make an ounce of sense or put forward an executable plan, as I have previously stated even with an open cheque book we can not do what City and. Chelsea did due to FFP.....they don't get it.

[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintade[/bold] wrote:
Latest on TalkSport is that they think the chairman's interview was just a front to get the most money for Schneiderlin they can. Interesting thought.
It's an interesting interview if you haven't heard it all on the TalkSport website, but difficult to believe him. Quotes like "Every penny of the money we've made will be reinvested in new players and wages" - may come back to bite Kruger...I'm keeping tabs on the spend and bet we don't spend anything like the money we've earned.[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting because we have it we should spend it all in this window?[/p][/quote]That's a very good point. The Rambo bros knows this business inside out as does Les Reed. I would suggest to you that they will be keeping a healthy wedge of the cash for January sales. Who know who might be injured or sulking at that point. Maybe Rambo thinks he needs support down the flanks or another CF so it won't all be spent in one go. The academy in the USA if it comes off will cost a pretty penny to set up unless it is being done in conjunction with an American club. Nothing is cheap in this game.[/p][/quote]There is a very large future in Us football, as witnessed by their steady progress at world cups, it's also financially a huge single market so getting support out there would be good to drive revenue.
My point is that the doom merchants want us to sell nobody, pay top wages and buy stars that don't flop, or they blame the board. None of them make an ounce of sense or put forward an executable plan, as I have previously stated even with an open cheque book we can not do what City and. Chelsea did due to FFP.....they don't get it.ctsaint

mattthecat1980 wrote:
What the he'll is going. The board need sacking? The club needs selling to someone who gives a poo,I can't help feeling if the club meant so much to the fat cow that there would have bent over backwards to keep mo po and this square together. I'm sorry but the heart of the squad that have come up the ranks together has been ripped apart. I can't blame the players for wanting to leave.the board have shown no ambition to push on from last season it's made my beloved club a laughing stock. Now we going to do a Sunderland buy about 9 rubbish foreigns and struggle like hell so I can't blame the spider for wanting more, come back nico life wasn't that bad under your leadership

You wouldn't have a club if it wasn't for the &quot;fat cows" £50m. You are as disloyal as the players ,go support the club they join...... What right do we have to "expect" our owners to further bank roll unsustainable business palm to satisfy greedy ungrateful players and greedy ungrateful fans like you? Ridsdale, Leeds , crooks/pompey is that what you want? You are a disgrace and so is anyone else who thinks name calling our saviour and blaming the current events on her and her advisors. Crawl back into your cave.

Ct saints - you are my hero. She has put more money into this club than all of the doom and gloom merchants earn put together for a year and still they're not happy.
We live within our means and it means survival, we don't and we go the way we've just clawed our way back from.
No brainer for me and it seems no brains for the subject of your ire.

[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]mattthecat1980[/bold] wrote:
What the he'll is going. The board need sacking? The club needs selling to someone who gives a poo,I can't help feeling if the club meant so much to the fat cow that there would have bent over backwards to keep mo po and this square together. I'm sorry but the heart of the squad that have come up the ranks together has been ripped apart. I can't blame the players for wanting to leave.the board have shown no ambition to push on from last season it's made my beloved club a laughing stock. Now we going to do a Sunderland buy about 9 rubbish foreigns and struggle like hell so I can't blame the spider for wanting more, come back nico life wasn't that bad under your leadership[/p][/quote]You wouldn't have a club if it wasn't for the "fat cows" £50m. You are as disloyal as the players ,go support the club they join...... What right do we have to "expect" our owners to further bank roll unsustainable business palm to satisfy greedy ungrateful players and greedy ungrateful fans like you? Ridsdale, Leeds , crooks/pompey is that what you want? You are a disgrace and so is anyone else who thinks name calling our saviour and blaming the current events on her and her advisors. Crawl back into your cave.[/p][/quote]Ct saints - you are my hero. She has put more money into this club than all of the doom and gloom merchants earn put together for a year and still they're not happy.
We live within our means and it means survival, we don't and we go the way we've just clawed our way back from.
No brainer for me and it seems no brains for the subject of your ire.jls217

Simply Saints wrote:
Let Morgan rot his contract out until he can join David Bentley at retiring before he is 30 and miss out on any International career. PLEASE can the Saints Board stand firm with anymore ungrateful greedy players now they have the money in the bank to do so.

All we need is a new Centre Back to replace DL.
GP and DT already replaced AL and RL.
Matty Targett has to be worth a chance at replacing the unfit Shaw!
Clyne was always better than CC.

Jury out on Jay but I fancy Sam Gallagher will be better in long run or better still could Gaston now rise and stand up at the plate!

So come on Saints fans keep the faith, it is not all that bad!!

COYR

I must say that I am surprised we have not heard from Wanyama through all of this. For some reason I would have put him high on the list of those that would kick off, but fair play to the lad.

The only one I would be surprised at if he was to act similar to DL, AL and now MS would be Corkie. Something tells me he might have an ounce of decency about himself and even if thinking the worst will keep his trap closed and just bide his time.

Having said that still a way to go before season starts.

I dare not speak, but I know his agent and he is happy, his "team" rate the Koeman brothers and he will only go to one club if an offer comes in. Van Gaal I.e UTD.

[quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Simply Saints[/bold] wrote:
Let Morgan rot his contract out until he can join David Bentley at retiring before he is 30 and miss out on any International career. PLEASE can the Saints Board stand firm with anymore ungrateful greedy players now they have the money in the bank to do so.
All we need is a new Centre Back to replace DL.
GP and DT already replaced AL and RL.
Matty Targett has to be worth a chance at replacing the unfit Shaw!
Clyne was always better than CC.
Please get Jordy Claise to replace the rotting Morgan, Wanyama is our holding Midfielder.
Jury out on Jay but I fancy Sam Gallagher will be better in long run or better still could Gaston now rise and stand up at the plate!
So come on Saints fans keep the faith, it is not all that bad!!
COYR[/p][/quote]I must say that I am surprised we have not heard from Wanyama through all of this. For some reason I would have put him high on the list of those that would kick off, but fair play to the lad.
The only one I would be surprised at if he was to act similar to DL, AL and now MS would be Corkie. Something tells me he might have an ounce of decency about himself and even if thinking the worst will keep his trap closed and just bide his time.
Having said that still a way to go before season starts.[/p][/quote]I dare not speak, but I know his agent and he is happy, his "team" rate the Koeman brothers and he will only go to one club if an offer comes in. Van Gaal I.e UTD.ctsaint

insider1234 wrote:
The Board seem damed if they do and damed if they don't. All Ralph said is that he wants to keep J Rod and MS and that we are hoping to sign 3 players by the end of the week. Now if MS wants to go and isn't happy It is purely down to his greed/ambition. What would you have done in Ralph's position ? Tell him to stay - anger from MS, let him go, anger from the fans. Make an example of him? It is easy to say that but if his value drops 15m after a year in the reserves then people will get angry about that too.

I'd agree with people that the board weren't any good if they did a West Brom and hired a nobody on the cheap, but they got in a former world class player who just got a team into the champions league. This isn't Rupert Lowe Hiring Steve Wigley or Paul Sturrock, this is Ronald Koeman, we did well to bring him here and the players have no reason to complain.

What must Kelvin Davies think? He stayed with us despite a premier league offer when we were in L1.

Morgan should apologise and put in 100% in next season or we should loan him out to the Cherries!

Sense at last, good post.

Ct saints - you are my hero. She has put more money into this club than all of the doom and gloom merchants earn put together for a year and still they're not happy.
We live within our means and it means survival, we don't and we go the way we've just clawed our way back from.
No brainer for me and it seems no brains for the subject of your ire.

[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]insider1234[/bold] wrote:
The Board seem damed if they do and damed if they don't. All Ralph said is that he wants to keep J Rod and MS and that we are hoping to sign 3 players by the end of the week. Now if MS wants to go and isn't happy It is purely down to his greed/ambition. What would you have done in Ralph's position ? Tell him to stay - anger from MS, let him go, anger from the fans. Make an example of him? It is easy to say that but if his value drops 15m after a year in the reserves then people will get angry about that too.
I'd agree with people that the board weren't any good if they did a West Brom and hired a nobody on the cheap, but they got in a former world class player who just got a team into the champions league. This isn't Rupert Lowe Hiring Steve Wigley or Paul Sturrock, this is Ronald Koeman, we did well to bring him here and the players have no reason to complain.
What must Kelvin Davies think? He stayed with us despite a premier league offer when we were in L1.
Morgan should apologise and put in 100% in next season or we should loan him out to the Cherries![/p][/quote]Sense at last, good post.[/p][/quote]Ct saints - you are my hero. She has put more money into this club than all of the doom and gloom merchants earn put together for a year and still they're not happy.
We live within our means and it means survival, we don't and we go the way we've just clawed our way back from.
No brainer for me and it seems no brains for the subject of your ire.jls217

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

bags of good wishes your way ,,,, I hope it all goes well .... I could not care less about MS ..... :-)

[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]bags of good wishes your way ,,,, I hope it all goes well .... I could not care less about MS ..... :-)steekeemcglue

justaSaintsfan wrote:
Morgan's Twitter comment shows that he is tactless and not very bright. Saints are still in business, not destroyed. The greedy ambitions of want away players, who were all probably tapped up by their new clubs before their moves are to blame for the damage to Saints. Morgan's Twitter rant has succeeded only in damaging his own credibility with Saints fans.

I always support the shirt 100%, regardless of who wears it for Saints. Morgan is still a Saints player, so I have no plans to give him a hard time. I want him to play well for our team.

Former Saints players, such as Terry Paine, Mick Channon and Matt Le Tissier, along with a host of other ex Saints, have my respect. They earned it. Unlike them, Morgan doesn't even have sufficient decorum to stop him twitting in his own nest (think about it).

Up the Saints!!!

Of coarse he is not very bright he is a footballer doh

[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote:
Morgan's Twitter comment shows that he is tactless and not very bright. Saints are still in business, not destroyed. The greedy ambitions of want away players, who were all probably tapped up by their new clubs before their moves are to blame for the damage to Saints. Morgan's Twitter rant has succeeded only in damaging his own credibility with Saints fans.
I always support the shirt 100%, regardless of who wears it for Saints. Morgan is still a Saints player, so I have no plans to give him a hard time. I want him to play well for our team.
Former Saints players, such as Terry Paine, Mick Channon and Matt Le Tissier, along with a host of other ex Saints, have my respect. They earned it. Unlike them, Morgan doesn't even have sufficient decorum to stop him twitting in his own nest (think about it).
Up the Saints!!![/p][/quote]Of coarse he is not very bright he is a footballer dohbullsbags

insider1234 wrote:
The Board seem damed if they do and damed if they don't. All Ralph said is that he wants to keep J Rod and MS and that we are hoping to sign 3 players by the end of the week. Now if MS wants to go and isn't happy It is purely down to his greed/ambition. What would you have done in Ralph's position ? Tell him to stay - anger from MS, let him go, anger from the fans. Make an example of him? It is easy to say that but if his value drops 15m after a year in the reserves then people will get angry about that too.

I'd agree with people that the board weren't any good if they did a West Brom and hired a nobody on the cheap, but they got in a former world class player who just got a team into the champions league. This isn't Rupert Lowe Hiring Steve Wigley or Paul Sturrock, this is Ronald Koeman, we did well to bring him here and the players have no reason to complain.

What must Kelvin Davies think? He stayed with us despite a premier league offer when we were in L1.

Morgan should apologise and put in 100% in next season or we should loan him out to the Cherries!

Sense at last, good post.

Ct saints - you are my hero. She has put more money into this club than all of the doom and gloom merchants earn put together for a year and still they're not happy.
We live within our means and it means survival, we don't and we go the way we've just clawed our way back from.
No brainer for me and it seems no brains for the subject of your ire.

Thanks JLS, I am no happy clapper I am a pragmatist and a fan, who's I both loyal and grateful with a memory span longer than that of a goldfish. Some of the comments on here, if written by real saints fans are as ungrateful and disloyal as the players, I am strangely angrier with them than I am with MS and the other idiots we idolised .

[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]insider1234[/bold] wrote:
The Board seem damed if they do and damed if they don't. All Ralph said is that he wants to keep J Rod and MS and that we are hoping to sign 3 players by the end of the week. Now if MS wants to go and isn't happy It is purely down to his greed/ambition. What would you have done in Ralph's position ? Tell him to stay - anger from MS, let him go, anger from the fans. Make an example of him? It is easy to say that but if his value drops 15m after a year in the reserves then people will get angry about that too.
I'd agree with people that the board weren't any good if they did a West Brom and hired a nobody on the cheap, but they got in a former world class player who just got a team into the champions league. This isn't Rupert Lowe Hiring Steve Wigley or Paul Sturrock, this is Ronald Koeman, we did well to bring him here and the players have no reason to complain.
What must Kelvin Davies think? He stayed with us despite a premier league offer when we were in L1.
Morgan should apologise and put in 100% in next season or we should loan him out to the Cherries![/p][/quote]Sense at last, good post.[/p][/quote]Ct saints - you are my hero. She has put more money into this club than all of the doom and gloom merchants earn put together for a year and still they're not happy.
We live within our means and it means survival, we don't and we go the way we've just clawed our way back from.
No brainer for me and it seems no brains for the subject of your ire.[/p][/quote]Thanks JLS, I am no happy clapper I am a pragmatist and a fan, who's I both loyal and grateful with a memory span longer than that of a goldfish. Some of the comments on here, if written by real saints fans are as ungrateful and disloyal as the players, I am strangely angrier with them than I am with MS and the other idiots we idolised .ctsaint

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

If he can't put it into perspective after that post Costa he never will and he's a lost cause.
Sorry to hear of your wife's misfortune. Don't pretend to know how you both must feel right now. Wish you both well.

[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]If he can't put it into perspective after that post Costa he never will and he's a lost cause.
Sorry to hear of your wife's misfortune. Don't pretend to know how you both must feel right now. Wish you both well.jls217

These players owe it to the fans and should be professional in their performances, if they are "made to stay".
It really pi55es me off in today's world when these guys loose total touch with the reality of life for us mere pheasants who pay a lot of hard earned cash to watch them.
To be honest , "who and where the #uck was your career going when you joined our fantastic football club MS . " #shortmemory
I know you are not the only one but it would be nice for you to show a little loyalty.
Twitter is a dangerous tool in hands of these guys that have more brains in their big toes than between their ears, perhaps clubs should ban them from it to save them from embarrassing themselves, like you do to small children!!!!!!

These players owe it to the fans and should be professional in their performances, if they are "made to stay".
It really pi55es me off in today's world when these guys loose total touch with the reality of life for us mere pheasants who pay a lot of hard earned cash to watch them.
To be honest , "who and where the #uck was your career going when you joined our fantastic football club MS . " #shortmemory
I know you are not the only one but it would be nice for you to show a little loyalty.
Twitter is a dangerous tool in hands of these guys that have more brains in their big toes than between their ears, perhaps clubs should ban them from it to save them from embarrassing themselves, like you do to small children!!!!!!Zippo1

Complete chaos at St.Marys.we obvoiusly need new players but honesly would any decent player want to come to a club with so much upheavel
Also as is it becoming more desperate you can see all selling clubs upping the transfers fees of any player we might consider buying

Complete chaos at St.Marys.we obvoiusly need new players but honesly would any decent player want to come to a club with so much upheavel
Also as is it becoming more desperate you can see all selling clubs upping the transfers fees of any player we might consider buyingbitterne barry

I have listened to Ralph on Skysports, Talksport and Radio Solent.
The best interview is with Adam Blackmore. Adam asked the correct and direct questions.
Ralph has had a sly dig at the previous chairman, manager and players.
He said that the players thought there was a shortcut to the Champions League while at Southampton.
When this didn't happen they wanted to jump ship to CL football instead of earning the hard way.

My assumption is that the previous chairman had made certain promises about getting to the Champions League by buying big money players. Basically overspending like Leeds and that lot down the road.

Ms Leibheir wouldn't allow this overspending so the previous chairman quit, followed by the previous manager and some brainwashed players.
They all said that the owner and board lacked ambition but spending the way the previous chairman wanted would have caused us major financial issues.
Don't forget, our previous chairman was against FFP.

If the club has no ambition why would they spend £20m on Tadic and Pelle. A club with no ambition wouldn't be looking to spend £9m on a goalkeeper and other players for around the £10m mark. A club with no ambition would be getting in free transfers and bargain basement players.

Adam also asked if Jay and Morgan were happy with the decision to which he replied that the didn't feel it necessary to say anything about their feelings.
I'm quite happy with whats been said and look forward to the next phase of Southampton Football Club.

I have listened to Ralph on Skysports, Talksport and Radio Solent.
The best interview is with Adam Blackmore. Adam asked the correct and direct questions.
Ralph has had a sly dig at the previous chairman, manager and players.
He said that the players thought there was a shortcut to the Champions League while at Southampton.
When this didn't happen they wanted to jump ship to CL football instead of earning the hard way.
My assumption is that the previous chairman had made certain promises about getting to the Champions League by buying big money players. Basically overspending like Leeds and that lot down the road.
Ms Leibheir wouldn't allow this overspending so the previous chairman quit, followed by the previous manager and some brainwashed players.
They all said that the owner and board lacked ambition but spending the way the previous chairman wanted would have caused us major financial issues.
Don't forget, our previous chairman was against FFP.
If the club has no ambition why would they spend £20m on Tadic and Pelle. A club with no ambition wouldn't be looking to spend £9m on a goalkeeper and other players for around the £10m mark. A club with no ambition would be getting in free transfers and bargain basement players.
Adam also asked if Jay and Morgan were happy with the decision to which he replied that the didn't feel it necessary to say anything about their feelings.
I'm quite happy with whats been said and look forward to the next phase of Southampton Football Club.
Here's the interview with Big Adam.
https://audioboo.fm/
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Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

bags of good wishes your way ,,,, I hope it all goes well .... I could not care less about MS ..... :-)

Hope the NHS do you proud like they did my old chap when he was going through similar.

All the best buddy and family.

[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]bags of good wishes your way ,,,, I hope it all goes well .... I could not care less about MS ..... :-)[/p][/quote]Ditto last, hoping all goes well. Puts everything else into some level of perspective.
Hope the NHS do you proud like they did my old chap when he was going through similar.
All the best buddy and family.NewForestStu

insider1234 wrote:
The Board seem damed if they do and damed if they don't. All Ralph said is that he wants to keep J Rod and MS and that we are hoping to sign 3 players by the end of the week. Now if MS wants to go and isn't happy It is purely down to his greed/ambition. What would you have done in Ralph's position ? Tell him to stay - anger from MS, let him go, anger from the fans. Make an example of him? It is easy to say that but if his value drops 15m after a year in the reserves then people will get angry about that too.

I'd agree with people that the board weren't any good if they did a West Brom and hired a nobody on the cheap, but they got in a former world class player who just got a team into the champions league. This isn't Rupert Lowe Hiring Steve Wigley or Paul Sturrock, this is Ronald Koeman, we did well to bring him here and the players have no reason to complain.

What must Kelvin Davies think? He stayed with us despite a premier league offer when we were in L1.

Morgan should apologise and put in 100% in next season or we should loan him out to the Cherries!

Sense at last, good post.

Ct saints - you are my hero. She has put more money into this club than all of the doom and gloom merchants earn put together for a year and still they're not happy.
We live within our means and it means survival, we don't and we go the way we've just clawed our way back from.
No brainer for me and it seems no brains for the subject of your ire.

Thanks JLS, I am no happy clapper I am a pragmatist and a fan, who's I both loyal and grateful with a memory span longer than that of a goldfish. Some of the comments on here, if written by real saints fans are as ungrateful and disloyal as the players, I am strangely angrier with them than I am with MS and the other idiots we idolised .

And I'm with you on that point also. There are some strange posts on here from so called fans who just seem to revel in misfortune for Saints.
You are entitled to be angry sir.

[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]fascia123[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]insider1234[/bold] wrote:
The Board seem damed if they do and damed if they don't. All Ralph said is that he wants to keep J Rod and MS and that we are hoping to sign 3 players by the end of the week. Now if MS wants to go and isn't happy It is purely down to his greed/ambition. What would you have done in Ralph's position ? Tell him to stay - anger from MS, let him go, anger from the fans. Make an example of him? It is easy to say that but if his value drops 15m after a year in the reserves then people will get angry about that too.
I'd agree with people that the board weren't any good if they did a West Brom and hired a nobody on the cheap, but they got in a former world class player who just got a team into the champions league. This isn't Rupert Lowe Hiring Steve Wigley or Paul Sturrock, this is Ronald Koeman, we did well to bring him here and the players have no reason to complain.
What must Kelvin Davies think? He stayed with us despite a premier league offer when we were in L1.
Morgan should apologise and put in 100% in next season or we should loan him out to the Cherries![/p][/quote]Sense at last, good post.[/p][/quote]Ct saints - you are my hero. She has put more money into this club than all of the doom and gloom merchants earn put together for a year and still they're not happy.
We live within our means and it means survival, we don't and we go the way we've just clawed our way back from.
No brainer for me and it seems no brains for the subject of your ire.[/p][/quote]Thanks JLS, I am no happy clapper I am a pragmatist and a fan, who's I both loyal and grateful with a memory span longer than that of a goldfish. Some of the comments on here, if written by real saints fans are as ungrateful and disloyal as the players, I am strangely angrier with them than I am with MS and the other idiots we idolised .[/p][/quote]And I'm with you on that point also. There are some strange posts on here from so called fans who just seem to revel in misfortune for Saints.
You are entitled to be angry sir.jls217

Sorry but if you sell half the team and all your mates are leaving one by one it's inevitable that other players will also want to leave. Whether the board learns from their mistakes is another matter. All I know is the players were happy and loved playing for the club when Cortese was here but all seem to want to leave under the new regime. Something can't be right and the players can't have any confidence in the current board. We need to make some high profile signings and fast.

Sorry but if you sell half the team and all your mates are leaving one by one it's inevitable that other players will also want to leave. Whether the board learns from their mistakes is another matter. All I know is the players were happy and loved playing for the club when Cortese was here but all seem to want to leave under the new regime. Something can't be right and the players can't have any confidence in the current board. We need to make some high profile signings and fast.SaintSteve76

saint bartley wrote:
I may be in a minority of one, but I really can't blame MS's reaction. He has stuck by Saints thru a drop to League 1 and revelled in our great journey back to the Premiership. As with Ricki and Lala, I really can't bring myself to criticise him. They've all given given long and faithful service but now they see trouble at the top and they want to secure their future. Instead, the blame lies 100% with the new Board. This is textbook mismanagement - dictate to the staff and sod the customer (ie faithful Saints fans) - classic recipe for disaster! What must be now one of the most cash-rich football clubs in the world is slowly losing the fight for survival in the Premiership before a ball has been kicked in the new season. I assumed from what Krueger said that he had spoken to MS and JR and assured them of 'the journey' ahead. Clearly, this was mistaken. Rather than getting them on board and their full support, he's dictated to them they will not be allowed to leave. Marvellous!! So MS and JR refuse to play or play poorly to force the club's hand. We now have demotivated players, youngsters who will find life difficult thru inexperience and our Premiership survival on a knife-edge. Like everyone else I've no idea what 'the plan' is, but it sure as hell looks like a sale to me too. Just pray Cortese (in spite of his faults) does another rescue for us. Christ, to have gotten so close to unthinkable to success, how depressing to have the bubble burst!!

I wouldn't mind having my bubble burst for £30,000 a week, you can hardly call that depressing can you!

[quote][p][bold]saint bartley[/bold] wrote:
I may be in a minority of one, but I really can't blame MS's reaction. He has stuck by Saints thru a drop to League 1 and revelled in our great journey back to the Premiership. As with Ricki and Lala, I really can't bring myself to criticise him. They've all given given long and faithful service but now they see trouble at the top and they want to secure their future. Instead, the blame lies 100% with the new Board. This is textbook mismanagement - dictate to the staff and sod the customer (ie faithful Saints fans) - classic recipe for disaster! What must be now one of the most cash-rich football clubs in the world is slowly losing the fight for survival in the Premiership before a ball has been kicked in the new season. I assumed from what Krueger said that he had spoken to MS and JR and assured them of 'the journey' ahead. Clearly, this was mistaken. Rather than getting them on board and their full support, he's dictated to them they will not be allowed to leave. Marvellous!! So MS and JR refuse to play or play poorly to force the club's hand. We now have demotivated players, youngsters who will find life difficult thru inexperience and our Premiership survival on a knife-edge. Like everyone else I've no idea what 'the plan' is, but it sure as hell looks like a sale to me too. Just pray Cortese (in spite of his faults) does another rescue for us. Christ, to have gotten so close to unthinkable to success, how depressing to have the bubble burst!![/p][/quote]I wouldn't mind having my bubble burst for £30,000 a week, you can hardly call that depressing can you!THE12THMAN

M.U.CS1 wrote:
You saints fans have finally woken up, welcome to the money grabbing world of Premiership footballers and club owners. Why did you ever think your club would be any different ?

In all honesty I don't think I ever thought that. A club, say Sunderland might have a good season this year....all is forgotten, expectations rise and then boom.....all the players kick up and want out.

We all know the problems surrounding British football but there is little done to help the clubs outside the top 6.

Football really is in a state but it knows it's got us fans by the short and curlys.

I joke about laughing about it all and not giving a toss but look, I am still on here discussing all this ****.

[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote:
You saints fans have finally woken up, welcome to the money grabbing world of Premiership footballers and club owners. Why did you ever think your club would be any different ?[/p][/quote]In all honesty I don't think I ever thought that. A club, say Sunderland might have a good season this year....all is forgotten, expectations rise and then boom.....all the players kick up and want out.
We all know the problems surrounding British football but there is little done to help the clubs outside the top 6.
Football really is in a state but it knows it's got us fans by the short and curlys.
I joke about laughing about it all and not giving a toss but look, I am still on here discussing all this ****.NewForestStu

yellowlovebus wrote:
Morgan, please show some respect. JRod has again delivered as a true professional. Not a word or a whisper. Well done Jay a true Englishman that won't roll over as soon as the big guns invade!!!!

Don't want to burst your bubble, but MoPo was, allegedly, laying the foundations for JRod to follow him to his next team, as long ago as March.
Also, as rumours go, JRod was the first one knocking on Reed's door, when MoPo did eventually leave.

I think he is biding his time, just now, maybe because of the time and effort being put in by the medical team, but I think he will agitate in January, unless Ronko can prove himself to be a better boss.

[quote][p][bold]yellowlovebus[/bold] wrote:
Morgan, please show some respect. JRod has again delivered as a true professional. Not a word or a whisper. Well done Jay a true Englishman that won't roll over as soon as the big guns invade!!!![/p][/quote]Don't want to burst your bubble, but MoPo was, allegedly, laying the foundations for JRod to follow him to his next team, as long ago as March.
Also, as rumours go, JRod was the first one knocking on Reed's door, when MoPo did eventually leave.
I think he is biding his time, just now, maybe because of the time and effort being put in by the medical team, but I think he will agitate in January, unless Ronko can prove himself to be a better boss.Costa Baz

pitbull wrote:
I have listened to Ralph on Skysports, Talksport and Radio Solent.
The best interview is with Adam Blackmore. Adam asked the correct and direct questions.
Ralph has had a sly dig at the previous chairman, manager and players.
He said that the players thought there was a shortcut to the Champions League while at Southampton.
When this didn't happen they wanted to jump ship to CL football instead of earning the hard way.

My assumption is that the previous chairman had made certain promises about getting to the Champions League by buying big money players. Basically overspending like Leeds and that lot down the road.

Ms Leibheir wouldn't allow this overspending so the previous chairman quit, followed by the previous manager and some brainwashed players.
They all said that the owner and board lacked ambition but spending the way the previous chairman wanted would have caused us major financial issues.
Don't forget, our previous chairman was against FFP.

If the club has no ambition why would they spend £20m on Tadic and Pelle. A club with no ambition wouldn't be looking to spend £9m on a goalkeeper and other players for around the £10m mark. A club with no ambition would be getting in free transfers and bargain basement players.

Adam also asked if Jay and Morgan were happy with the decision to which he replied that the didn't feel it necessary to say anything about their feelings.
I'm quite happy with whats been said and look forward to the next phase of Southampton Football Club.

Here's the interview with Big Adam.

https://audioboo.fm/

boos/2359653-southam

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krueger-tells-bigada

msport-the-club-is-n

ot-for-sale-and-neit

her-are-jay-rodrigue

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n#t=2m20s

Listened to the interview, good enough for me, buries the nonsense and bile I have read on these posts . Could the doom mongrels and conspiracy theorists take a listen and then come up with their alternative , it will at least be worth a laugh!

[quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote:
I have listened to Ralph on Skysports, Talksport and Radio Solent.
The best interview is with Adam Blackmore. Adam asked the correct and direct questions.
Ralph has had a sly dig at the previous chairman, manager and players.
He said that the players thought there was a shortcut to the Champions League while at Southampton.
When this didn't happen they wanted to jump ship to CL football instead of earning the hard way.
My assumption is that the previous chairman had made certain promises about getting to the Champions League by buying big money players. Basically overspending like Leeds and that lot down the road.
Ms Leibheir wouldn't allow this overspending so the previous chairman quit, followed by the previous manager and some brainwashed players.
They all said that the owner and board lacked ambition but spending the way the previous chairman wanted would have caused us major financial issues.
Don't forget, our previous chairman was against FFP.
If the club has no ambition why would they spend £20m on Tadic and Pelle. A club with no ambition wouldn't be looking to spend £9m on a goalkeeper and other players for around the £10m mark. A club with no ambition would be getting in free transfers and bargain basement players.
Adam also asked if Jay and Morgan were happy with the decision to which he replied that the didn't feel it necessary to say anything about their feelings.
I'm quite happy with whats been said and look forward to the next phase of Southampton Football Club.
Here's the interview with Big Adam.
https://audioboo.fm/
boos/2359653-southam
pton-chairman-ralph-
krueger-tells-bigada
msport-the-club-is-n
ot-for-sale-and-neit
her-are-jay-rodrigue
z-morgan-schneiderli
n#t=2m20s[/p][/quote]Listened to the interview, good enough for me, buries the nonsense and bile I have read on these posts . Could the doom mongrels and conspiracy theorists take a listen and then come up with their alternative , it will at least be worth a laugh!ctsaint

yellowlovebus wrote:
Morgan, please show some respect. JRod has again delivered as a true professional. Not a word or a whisper. Well done Jay a true Englishman that won't roll over as soon as the big guns invade!!!!

In fact, thinking about it;
I've spent 50 years supporting the Red and White, My father worked at the Dell from the 50s till his death in 81, I met loyal players over the years, and some who were ending their careers but still flew the SFC flag. We have been sold short and dumped on for many years. This is the time to stand firm. If a player is not proud to pull on the Red and White then keep them to contract but loan them out or leave them on the bench. End player power.
This is and has always been a FAMILY club. RL goes with our blessing, it made sense. LS, greedy little man 100k per week, Moriniho had the right idea. DL, Judas, we gave him a break. AL, Who????, MS, Grow up, you have a contract, you would neer have been selected at international level if it wasn't for the Saints. JRod, I'm hoping that your silence is your show as a gentleman and a sport, and you're proud to pull on the shirt. Poch, you are a Charlatan and a typical Argie.

[quote][p][bold]yellowlovebus[/bold] wrote:
Morgan, please show some respect. JRod has again delivered as a true professional. Not a word or a whisper. Well done Jay a true Englishman that won't roll over as soon as the big guns invade!!!![/p][/quote]In fact, thinking about it;
I've spent 50 years supporting the Red and White, My father worked at the Dell from the 50s till his death in 81, I met loyal players over the years, and some who were ending their careers but still flew the SFC flag. We have been sold short and dumped on for many years. This is the time to stand firm. If a player is not proud to pull on the Red and White then keep them to contract but loan them out or leave them on the bench. End player power.
This is and has always been a FAMILY club. RL goes with our blessing, it made sense. LS, greedy little man 100k per week, Moriniho had the right idea. DL, Judas, we gave him a break. AL, Who????, MS, Grow up, you have a contract, you would neer have been selected at international level if it wasn't for the Saints. JRod, I'm hoping that your silence is your show as a gentleman and a sport, and you're proud to pull on the shirt. Poch, you are a Charlatan and a typical Argie.yellowlovebus

SaintSteve76 wrote:
Sorry but if you sell half the team and all your mates are leaving one by one it's inevitable that other players will also want to leave. Whether the board learns from their mistakes is another matter. All I know is the players were happy and loved playing for the club when Cortese was here but all seem to want to leave under the new regime. Something can't be right and the players can't have any confidence in the current board. We need to make some high profile signings and fast.

That's because NC sold them a fairytale and the poor lovies thought it would come true........are you as daft as them?

[quote][p][bold]SaintSteve76[/bold] wrote:
Sorry but if you sell half the team and all your mates are leaving one by one it's inevitable that other players will also want to leave. Whether the board learns from their mistakes is another matter. All I know is the players were happy and loved playing for the club when Cortese was here but all seem to want to leave under the new regime. Something can't be right and the players can't have any confidence in the current board. We need to make some high profile signings and fast.[/p][/quote]That's because NC sold them a fairytale and the poor lovies thought it would come true........are you as daft as them?ctsaint

yellowlovebus wrote:
Morgan, please show some respect. JRod has again delivered as a true professional. Not a word or a whisper. Well done Jay a true Englishman that won't roll over as soon as the big guns invade!!!!

In fact, thinking about it;
I've spent 50 years supporting the Red and White, My father worked at the Dell from the 50s till his death in 81, I met loyal players over the years, and some who were ending their careers but still flew the SFC flag. We have been sold short and dumped on for many years. This is the time to stand firm. If a player is not proud to pull on the Red and White then keep them to contract but loan them out or leave them on the bench. End player power.
This is and has always been a FAMILY club. RL goes with our blessing, it made sense. LS, greedy little man 100k per week, Moriniho had the right idea. DL, Judas, we gave him a break. AL, Who????, MS, Grow up, you have a contract, you would neer have been selected at international level if it wasn't for the Saints. JRod, I'm hoping that your silence is your show as a gentleman and a sport, and you're proud to pull on the shirt. Poch, you are a Charlatan and a typical Argie.

Oh sorry, Forgot to say.

Thank you Katharina for carrying on your late Father, our saviours dream.
Long may the Liebherrs dream reign.

[quote][p][bold]yellowlovebus[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]yellowlovebus[/bold] wrote:
Morgan, please show some respect. JRod has again delivered as a true professional. Not a word or a whisper. Well done Jay a true Englishman that won't roll over as soon as the big guns invade!!!![/p][/quote]In fact, thinking about it;
I've spent 50 years supporting the Red and White, My father worked at the Dell from the 50s till his death in 81, I met loyal players over the years, and some who were ending their careers but still flew the SFC flag. We have been sold short and dumped on for many years. This is the time to stand firm. If a player is not proud to pull on the Red and White then keep them to contract but loan them out or leave them on the bench. End player power.
This is and has always been a FAMILY club. RL goes with our blessing, it made sense. LS, greedy little man 100k per week, Moriniho had the right idea. DL, Judas, we gave him a break. AL, Who????, MS, Grow up, you have a contract, you would neer have been selected at international level if it wasn't for the Saints. JRod, I'm hoping that your silence is your show as a gentleman and a sport, and you're proud to pull on the shirt. Poch, you are a Charlatan and a typical Argie.[/p][/quote]Oh sorry, Forgot to say.
Thank you Katharina for carrying on your late Father, our saviours dream.
Long may the Liebherrs dream reign.yellowlovebus

SaintSteve76 wrote:
Sorry but if you sell half the team and all your mates are leaving one by one it's inevitable that other players will also want to leave. Whether the board learns from their mistakes is another matter. All I know is the players were happy and loved playing for the club when Cortese was here but all seem to want to leave under the new regime. Something can't be right and the players can't have any confidence in the current board. We need to make some high profile signings and fast.

That's because NC sold them a fairytale and the poor lovies thought it would come true........are you as daft as them?

NC made promises that he couldn't keep. Imagine MUFC, years of CL football and then nothing. Promises are empty in the football world. all you can promise is a paycheck. Welcome to reality.

[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SaintSteve76[/bold] wrote:
Sorry but if you sell half the team and all your mates are leaving one by one it's inevitable that other players will also want to leave. Whether the board learns from their mistakes is another matter. All I know is the players were happy and loved playing for the club when Cortese was here but all seem to want to leave under the new regime. Something can't be right and the players can't have any confidence in the current board. We need to make some high profile signings and fast.[/p][/quote]That's because NC sold them a fairytale and the poor lovies thought it would come true........are you as daft as them?[/p][/quote]NC made promises that he couldn't keep. Imagine MUFC, years of CL football and then nothing. Promises are empty in the football world. all you can promise is a paycheck. Welcome to reality.yellowlovebus

I think that would be a great idea, give every club £50 million to spend each season it would make the premier league much more interesting and clubs would have to use youth players when the money was gone, which in turn would benefit the national team.

[quote][p][bold]wwozzer[/bold] wrote:
Time for a cap on transfer budgets.[/p][/quote]I think that would be a great idea, give every club £50 million to spend each season it would make the premier league much more interesting and clubs would have to use youth players when the money was gone, which in turn would benefit the national team.THE12THMAN

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Baz I'm sorry to hear about the adversities your wife is facing. I wish you both the best.

I also wish you all the best and a speedy recovery for your wife.

Sorry to hear that, puts it all into perspctive, good luck

[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Baz I'm sorry to hear about the adversities your wife is facing. I wish you both the best.[/p][/quote]I also wish you all the best and a speedy recovery for your wife.[/p][/quote]Sorry to hear that, puts it all into perspctive, good luckbbb001

I am sick to the teeth of reading about players that are pushing and making demands to leave our club that made them what they are today. They have become greedy, money grabbing individuals who have made Southampton FC a laughing stock of the football world. Who the hell do these players think they are? I hope we have the last laugh by signing better quality players and those that have left become absolute failures and rot in the reserves or sat on their fat treacherous backsides getting jeered and booed by their new fans for being CRAP.
Time is running out for new blood but what we don't want is anymore bad blood, we deserve better.

I am sick to the teeth of reading about players that are pushing and making demands to leave our club that made them what they are today. They have become greedy, money grabbing individuals who have made Southampton FC a laughing stock of the football world. Who the hell do these players think they are? I hope we have the last laugh by signing better quality players and those that have left become absolute failures and rot in the reserves or sat on their fat treacherous backsides getting jeered and booed by their new fans for being CRAP.
Time is running out for new blood but what we don't want is anymore bad blood, we deserve better.holburysaint

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Baz I'm sorry to hear about the adversities your wife is facing. I wish you both the best.

I also wish you all the best and a speedy recovery for your wife.

Sorry to hear that, puts it all into perspctive, good luck

Good luck BAz and Mrs Baz !

[quote][p][bold]bbb001[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Baz I'm sorry to hear about the adversities your wife is facing. I wish you both the best.[/p][/quote]I also wish you all the best and a speedy recovery for your wife.[/p][/quote]Sorry to hear that, puts it all into perspctive, good luck[/p][/quote]Good luck BAz and Mrs Baz !ctsaint

I'd like to see him training in isolation although I suppose he can easily contact the others anyway. I certainly would not want him training with the kids. I would like to add my very best wishes to Baz and his wife too.

I'd like to see him training in isolation although I suppose he can easily contact the others anyway. I certainly would not want him training with the kids. I would like to add my very best wishes to Baz and his wife too.Stnana

SaintSteve76 wrote:
Sorry but if you sell half the team and all your mates are leaving one by one it's inevitable that other players will also want to leave. Whether the board learns from their mistakes is another matter. All I know is the players were happy and loved playing for the club when Cortese was here but all seem to want to leave under the new regime. Something can't be right and the players can't have any confidence in the current board. We need to make some high profile signings and fast.

Yes, you are correct. Everyone of the Playing Staff bought into the Cortese way and the results were there for all to see. He did an amazing job!

Now you know why Cortese left................

The situation now is that the club is making a lot of money from player sales which will clear any outstanding loans and thereby consolidating the wealth of the club even without the players who have/are departing.
They also have the Premiership money coming which is now mega millions!

The owners can't lose, even if Saints are relegated...........
........

Southampton FC was bought by Marcus Liebherr as an additional Investment to his Wealth Portfolio - everyone knew that as it was common knowledge. They bought it very cheaply as no one else wanted Saints!

Why be surprised at what is happening now?

(My hope is that the new manager can make the best of the situation and prove himself a worthy successor to Pochettino)

[quote][p][bold]SaintSteve76[/bold] wrote:
Sorry but if you sell half the team and all your mates are leaving one by one it's inevitable that other players will also want to leave. Whether the board learns from their mistakes is another matter. All I know is the players were happy and loved playing for the club when Cortese was here but all seem to want to leave under the new regime. Something can't be right and the players can't have any confidence in the current board. We need to make some high profile signings and fast.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are correct. Everyone of the Playing Staff bought into the Cortese way and the results were there for all to see. He did an amazing job!
Now you know why Cortese left................
The situation now is that the club is making a lot of money from player sales which will clear any outstanding loans and thereby consolidating the wealth of the club even without the players who have/are departing.
They also have the Premiership money coming which is now mega millions!
The owners can't lose, even if Saints are relegated...........
........
Southampton FC was bought by Marcus Liebherr as an additional Investment to his Wealth Portfolio - everyone knew that as it was common knowledge. They bought it very cheaply as no one else wanted Saints!
Why be surprised at what is happening now?
(My hope is that the new manager can make the best of the situation and prove himself a worthy successor to Pochettino)George4th

Schneiderlin was an unknown when we signed him from Strasbourg. We`ve developed him to the player he is today, recognised recently by an international call up to the French World Cup squad. RK suggested he wants to build a Premier League team around the likes of this guy, and this is how he acts when he dosent get his own way!
Keep him in the reserves for all l care. Maybe when his club and International career dwindles, he might appreciate what this club has done for him. COYR

Schneiderlin was an unknown when we signed him from Strasbourg. We`ve developed him to the player he is today, recognised recently by an international call up to the French World Cup squad. RK suggested he wants to build a Premier League team around the likes of this guy, and this is how he acts when he dosent get his own way!
Keep him in the reserves for all l care. Maybe when his club and International career dwindles, he might appreciate what this club has done for him. COYRlovesausage

The fans in general. Almost to a man ( or woman) we quite happily let Ricky go with our best wishes, i'm not convinced that would have happened with every club. It showed a bit of class.

Whilst i hate the pity we as fans have had bestowed on us by rival fans it has proven we're actually well thought of. Which means way after all this cr@p is gone i reckon we'll be well considered in the football community.

All of which bodes well in the longterm. This club has, and always will be judged on it's fan base. And we got it right these last 3 months.

Do you know the one positive to come from all this?
The fans in general. Almost to a man ( or woman) we quite happily let Ricky go with our best wishes, i'm not convinced that would have happened with every club. It showed a bit of class.
Whilst i hate the pity we as fans have had bestowed on us by rival fans it has proven we're actually well thought of. Which means way after all this cr@p is gone i reckon we'll be well considered in the football community.
All of which bodes well in the longterm. This club has, and always will be judged on it's fan base. And we got it right these last 3 months.sparky130a

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Baz I'm sorry to hear about the adversities your wife is facing. I wish you both the best.

I also wish you all the best and a speedy recovery for your wife.

Sorry to hear that, puts it all into perspctive, good luck

Good luck BAz and Mrs Baz !

too true, count your blessings, life is wonderful while it lasts. Medical science is really wonderful these days and getting better all the time. I can't imagine what you are feeling , makes me cry to try

[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bbb001[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Baz I'm sorry to hear about the adversities your wife is facing. I wish you both the best.[/p][/quote]I also wish you all the best and a speedy recovery for your wife.[/p][/quote]Sorry to hear that, puts it all into perspctive, good luck[/p][/quote]Good luck BAz and Mrs Baz ![/p][/quote]too true, count your blessings, life is wonderful while it lasts. Medical science is really wonderful these days and getting better all the time. I can't imagine what you are feeling , makes me cry to tryOptimist

Costa Baz wrote:
Too many to quote, so a heartfelt thank you for the kind comments.

Costa Baz, I am a little late on this thread but I send my heartfelt sympathy to and Mrs Costa Baz.

As we all know, there has been a lot of bad news on here recently but nothing like you both are encountering. I sincerely hope in the months to come you will be able to give us some good news. Now, every time you post, I will be thinking of you. If I may, love to to you both!

And to Spiderman, stuff you!! Remember there are others in this world who are really, really important

[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Too many to quote, so a heartfelt thank you for the kind comments.[/p][/quote]Costa Baz, I am a little late on this thread but I send my heartfelt sympathy to and Mrs Costa Baz.
As we all know, there has been a lot of bad news on here recently but nothing like you both are encountering. I sincerely hope in the months to come you will be able to give us some good news. Now, every time you post, I will be thinking of you. If I may, love to to you both!
And to Spiderman, stuff you!! Remember there are others in this world who are really, really importantsaintbobby

saint bartley wrote: I may be in a minority of one, but I really can't blame MS's reaction. He has stuck by Saints thru a drop to League 1 and revelled in our great journey back to the Premiership. As with Ricki and Lala, I really can't bring myself to criticise him. They've all given given long and faithful service but now they see trouble at the top and they want to secure their future. Instead, the blame lies 100% with the new Board. This is textbook mismanagement - dictate to the staff and sod the customer (ie faithful Saints fans) - classic recipe for disaster! What must be now one of the most cash-rich football clubs in the world is slowly losing the fight for survival in the Premiership before a ball has been kicked in the new season. I assumed from what Krueger said that he had spoken to MS and JR and assured them of 'the journey' ahead. Clearly, this was mistaken. Rather than getting them on board and their full support, he's dictated to them they will not be allowed to leave. Marvellous!! So MS and JR refuse to play or play poorly to force the club's hand. We now have demotivated players, youngsters who will find life difficult thru inexperience and our Premiership survival on a knife-edge. Like everyone else I've no idea what 'the plan' is, but it sure as hell looks like a sale to me too. Just pray Cortese (in spite of his faults) does another rescue for us. Christ, to have gotten so close to unthinkable to success, how depressing to have the bubble burst!!

I wouldn't mind having my bubble burst for £30,000 a week, you can hardly call that depressing can you!

Dear oh dear oh dear oh dear

[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]saint bartley[/bold] wrote: I may be in a minority of one, but I really can't blame MS's reaction. He has stuck by Saints thru a drop to League 1 and revelled in our great journey back to the Premiership. As with Ricki and Lala, I really can't bring myself to criticise him. They've all given given long and faithful service but now they see trouble at the top and they want to secure their future. Instead, the blame lies 100% with the new Board. This is textbook mismanagement - dictate to the staff and sod the customer (ie faithful Saints fans) - classic recipe for disaster! What must be now one of the most cash-rich football clubs in the world is slowly losing the fight for survival in the Premiership before a ball has been kicked in the new season. I assumed from what Krueger said that he had spoken to MS and JR and assured them of 'the journey' ahead. Clearly, this was mistaken. Rather than getting them on board and their full support, he's dictated to them they will not be allowed to leave. Marvellous!! So MS and JR refuse to play or play poorly to force the club's hand. We now have demotivated players, youngsters who will find life difficult thru inexperience and our Premiership survival on a knife-edge. Like everyone else I've no idea what 'the plan' is, but it sure as hell looks like a sale to me too. Just pray Cortese (in spite of his faults) does another rescue for us. Christ, to have gotten so close to unthinkable to success, how depressing to have the bubble burst!![/p][/quote]I wouldn't mind having my bubble burst for £30,000 a week, you can hardly call that depressing can you![/p][/quote]Dear oh dear oh dear oh dearNunner

saint bartley wrote:
I may be in a minority of one, but I really can't blame MS's reaction. He has stuck by Saints thru a drop to League 1 and revelled in our great journey back to the Premiership. As with Ricki and Lala, I really can't bring myself to criticise him. They've all given given long and faithful service but now they see trouble at the top and they want to secure their future. Instead, the blame lies 100% with the new Board. This is textbook mismanagement - dictate to the staff and sod the customer (ie faithful Saints fans) - classic recipe for disaster! What must be now one of the most cash-rich football clubs in the world is slowly losing the fight for survival in the Premiership before a ball has been kicked in the new season. I assumed from what Krueger said that he had spoken to MS and JR and assured them of 'the journey' ahead. Clearly, this was mistaken. Rather than getting them on board and their full support, he's dictated to them they will not be allowed to leave. Marvellous!! So MS and JR refuse to play or play poorly to force the club's hand. We now have demotivated players, youngsters who will find life difficult thru inexperience and our Premiership survival on a knife-edge. Like everyone else I've no idea what 'the plan' is, but it sure as hell looks like a sale to me too. Just pray Cortese (in spite of his faults) does another rescue for us. Christ, to have gotten so close to unthinkable to success, how depressing to have the bubble burst!!

I wouldn't mind having my bubble burst for £30,000 a week, you can hardly call that depressing can you!

So you want NC back to sell another dream! Yes we were close so very close. And would have done it easily if we had a manager that had a B plan. OH what a team! Lovely football! 70% possession, OOOppss! loose! Maybe all the rats were unhappy about sleeping on a mattress somebody else had slept on. Goodbye the lot of you. You are just contributing towards why fan are turning away from the premiership!

[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]saint bartley[/bold] wrote:
I may be in a minority of one, but I really can't blame MS's reaction. He has stuck by Saints thru a drop to League 1 and revelled in our great journey back to the Premiership. As with Ricki and Lala, I really can't bring myself to criticise him. They've all given given long and faithful service but now they see trouble at the top and they want to secure their future. Instead, the blame lies 100% with the new Board. This is textbook mismanagement - dictate to the staff and sod the customer (ie faithful Saints fans) - classic recipe for disaster! What must be now one of the most cash-rich football clubs in the world is slowly losing the fight for survival in the Premiership before a ball has been kicked in the new season. I assumed from what Krueger said that he had spoken to MS and JR and assured them of 'the journey' ahead. Clearly, this was mistaken. Rather than getting them on board and their full support, he's dictated to them they will not be allowed to leave. Marvellous!! So MS and JR refuse to play or play poorly to force the club's hand. We now have demotivated players, youngsters who will find life difficult thru inexperience and our Premiership survival on a knife-edge. Like everyone else I've no idea what 'the plan' is, but it sure as hell looks like a sale to me too. Just pray Cortese (in spite of his faults) does another rescue for us. Christ, to have gotten so close to unthinkable to success, how depressing to have the bubble burst!![/p][/quote]I wouldn't mind having my bubble burst for £30,000 a week, you can hardly call that depressing can you![/p][/quote]So you want NC back to sell another dream! Yes we were close so very close. And would have done it easily if we had a manager that had a B plan. OH what a team! Lovely football! 70% possession, OOOppss! loose! Maybe all the rats were unhappy about sleeping on a mattress somebody else had slept on. Goodbye the lot of you. You are just contributing towards why fan are turning away from the premiership!billycake

Don't panic everyone he's not leaving the tweet was meant for me, I had been banging his misses for an hour when he walked in on us.
Don't know about his 6 years being destroyed she f@ckin destroyed me for good.
Best hour of my life.

Don't panic everyone he's not leaving the tweet was meant for me, I had been banging his misses for an hour when he walked in on us.
Don't know about his 6 years being destroyed she f@ckin destroyed me for good.
Best hour of my life.u bunch of mugs

Looking at this. He has played as many games as Ricky Lambert and probably felt that he has paid his dues to the club. All of a sudden Chambers, Lovren, Shaw and Lallana are sold before he is - and he is showing his frustration.

Looking at this. He has played as many games as Ricky Lambert and probably felt that he has paid his dues to the club. All of a sudden Chambers, Lovren, Shaw and Lallana are sold before he is - and he is showing his frustration.Saints n Winners

Buddy SFC wrote:
This finally proves i's not the boards lack of ambition but the players greed !

Shut up and have some respect !

Greed is very often the motive for lots of player moves nowadays(that and personal ambition),but this is not necessarily the case here with this situation. This group of players,who are now voting literally,with their feet,appeared to all be fully committed to the plan which had been presented to them by Cortese,and in the main,had all been prepared to see it through to its conclusion,which was undoubtedly on target,and within reach.They had been prepared to show team spirit and loyalty to a cause which had been bestowed upon them,and which they were achieving as a team.
The apparent "disloyalty" which is being shown now,is more about frustration and disappointment (shared in equal measure by us the fans)about having the rug pulled from under their feet,and when they realised the plan had been cancelled,after they had worked so hard to fulfil the dream in which they had all been asked to participate and commit themselves to,and had come so tantalisingly close to completing.

[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote:
This finally proves i's not the boards lack of ambition but the players greed !
Shut up and have some respect ![/p][/quote]Greed is very often the motive for lots of player moves nowadays(that and personal ambition),but this is not necessarily the case here with this situation. This group of players,who are now voting literally,with their feet,appeared to all be fully committed to the plan which had been presented to them by Cortese,and in the main,had all been prepared to see it through to its conclusion,which was undoubtedly on target,and within reach.They had been prepared to show team spirit and loyalty to a cause which had been bestowed upon them,and which they were achieving as a team.
The apparent "disloyalty" which is being shown now,is more about frustration and disappointment (shared in equal measure by us the fans)about having the rug pulled from under their feet,and when they realised the plan had been cancelled,after they had worked so hard to fulfil the dream in which they had all been asked to participate and commit themselves to,and had come so tantalisingly close to completing.Positively4thStreet

We tell a player to honour his contract and he slams everyone on tw$tter

Loyalty my Ar$e, he is only after the big money move

well F**k off then you pratt

Just remember who put you in the shop window along with the other wantaways (thought you were Saints)

STID
NSFM (no sympathy for mercanaries)

AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH
We tell a player to honour his contract and he slams everyone on tw$tter
Loyalty my Ar$e, he is only after the big money move
well F**k off then you pratt
Just remember who put you in the shop window along with the other wantaways (thought you were Saints)
STID
NSFM (no sympathy for mercanaries)SodburySaint93

saintand266 wrote:
Stamp your feet Morgan like my six year old daughter .

You were many fans choice for captain but now I'm not do sure .

The attitude of some of our players is absolutely diabolical , whether is broken promises or greed they seem to think they tweet or say what they want and they will get it .

Time for Ralph and useLES Reed to grow some f##king balls and put them in their place

Errrrrrrrr that's what they just did fool !

This just proves its not the board at fault but the greedy fast track players, I wonder how many will crash and burn ........

With any luck every last fecking one of them (except RL).

[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]saintand266[/bold] wrote:
Stamp your feet Morgan like my six year old daughter .
You were many fans choice for captain but now I'm not do sure .
The attitude of some of our players is absolutely diabolical , whether is broken promises or greed they seem to think they tweet or say what they want and they will get it .
Time for Ralph and useLES Reed to grow some f##king balls and put them in their place[/p][/quote]Errrrrrrrr that's what they just did fool !
This just proves its not the board at fault but the greedy fast track players, I wonder how many will crash and burn ........[/p][/quote]With any luck every last fecking one of them (except RL).Steve_N

One day this will make a great film. Like Escape to Victory. It's the team that is more important than any ego and Big Ron will deliver us a team and put the scouse mancs and gooners on their backsides using their cheque books as Elastoplast. Once a saint always a saint........ For most of us anyway. Keep the faith it will make winning even more sweeter....

One day this will make a great film. Like Escape to Victory. It's the team that is more important than any ego and Big Ron will deliver us a team and put the scouse mancs and gooners on their backsides using their cheque books as Elastoplast. Once a saint always a saint........ For most of us anyway. Keep the faith it will make winning even more sweeter....Fawleysajollygoodfellow

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Baz, wishing Mrs Costa all the very best in her recovery.
Looking forward to good news later, when she's made a full, and wonderful recovery.
Footy is our passion, hobby, and poison, but it pales into insignificance against any suffering of the one we truly love.
Sending all our positive vibes and wishes,
Mr&Mrs Bracknell

[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Baz, wishing Mrs Costa all the very best in her recovery.
Looking forward to good news later, when she's made a full, and wonderful recovery.
Footy is our passion, hobby, and poison, but it pales into insignificance against any suffering of the one we truly love.
Sending all our positive vibes and wishes,
Mr&Mrs BracknellBracknellSaint

Buddy SFC wrote:
This finally proves i's not the boards lack of ambition but the players greed !

Shut up and have some respect !

Greed is very often the motive for lots of player moves nowadays(that and personal ambition),but this is not necessarily the case here with this situation. This group of players,who are now voting literally,with their feet,appeared to all be fully committed to the plan which had been presented to them by Cortese,and in the main,had all been prepared to see it through to its conclusion,which was undoubtedly on target,and within reach.They had been prepared to show team spirit and loyalty to a cause which had been bestowed upon them,and which they were achieving as a team.
The apparent &quot;disloyalty" which is being shown now,is more about frustration and disappointment (shared in equal measure by us the fans)about having the rug pulled from under their feet,and when they realised the plan had been cancelled,after they had worked so hard to fulfil the dream in which they had all been asked to participate and commit themselves to,and had come so tantalisingly close to completing.

Buddy, shut up you mug.
The 5 year plan was on track despite the sad loss of Markus. Sadly, our Nice Mr Cortese wos reminiscent of a certain Adolph Hitler from years gone by. What NC wanted NC got, apparently in his contract!!! Do not aint all at SFC with your slurs of greed and lack of loyalty.
There are players that have been lured by bright lights and big money but, as many MUFC have found, easy come, easy go!!! for the others, RL well done for realising your lifelong dream and we, the faithful salute you. the rest, good riddance, your not worthy.
Don't blame the board for trying to stabilize the club.

[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote:
This finally proves i's not the boards lack of ambition but the players greed !
Shut up and have some respect ![/p][/quote]Greed is very often the motive for lots of player moves nowadays(that and personal ambition),but this is not necessarily the case here with this situation. This group of players,who are now voting literally,with their feet,appeared to all be fully committed to the plan which had been presented to them by Cortese,and in the main,had all been prepared to see it through to its conclusion,which was undoubtedly on target,and within reach.They had been prepared to show team spirit and loyalty to a cause which had been bestowed upon them,and which they were achieving as a team.
The apparent "disloyalty" which is being shown now,is more about frustration and disappointment (shared in equal measure by us the fans)about having the rug pulled from under their feet,and when they realised the plan had been cancelled,after they had worked so hard to fulfil the dream in which they had all been asked to participate and commit themselves to,and had come so tantalisingly close to completing.[/p][/quote]Buddy, shut up you mug.
The 5 year plan was on track despite the sad loss of Markus. Sadly, our Nice Mr Cortese wos reminiscent of a certain Adolph Hitler from years gone by. What NC wanted NC got, apparently in his contract!!! Do not aint all at SFC with your slurs of greed and lack of loyalty.
There are players that have been lured by bright lights and big money but, as many MUFC have found, easy come, easy go!!! for the others, RL well done for realising your lifelong dream and we, the faithful salute you. the rest, good riddance, your not worthy.
Don't blame the board for trying to stabilize the club.yellowlovebus

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Wow Costa puts the whole saga in perspective... Hope she gets as well as she can and that the two of you and your family get the full support of our health system. It can work out and the NHS does produce miracles...

[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Wow Costa puts the whole saga in perspective... Hope she gets as well as she can and that the two of you and your family get the full support of our health system. It can work out and the NHS does produce miracles...St Albans Cherry

............well I'm going to kick the chickens here !!!!!...Spider is the one player I didn't want to loose.......center of everything, we were **** without him in a lot of games.......but I do think he's been loyal,...its the kids who we should be disappointed with, they haven't even begun to pay us back and J Rod still owes us a little bit more, but I think Morgan has always given his all for us ( but for Christ's sake don't sell to MoPo)....... and it looks just like us fans he's been shafted,............
........... read about us in the media abroad ( use the translator) then you will certainly see a different perceptive about what's going on at St Mary's..........trou
ble is there is not one person in this sorry saga that we can trust...............
and that's s**t!....

............well I'm going to kick the chickens here !!!!!...Spider is the one player I didn't want to loose.......center of everything, we were **** without him in a lot of games.......but I do think he's been loyal,...its the kids who we should be disappointed with, they haven't even begun to pay us back and J Rod still owes us a little bit more, but I think Morgan has always given his all for us ( but for Christ's sake don't sell to MoPo)....... and it looks just like us fans he's been shafted,............
........... read about us in the media abroad ( use the translator) then you will certainly see a different perceptive about what's going on at St Mary's..........trou
ble is there is not one person in this sorry saga that we can trust...............
and that's s**t!....poshdave

I support Saints and am realistic to know that screaming and shouting from a fan will not alter the running of "the product" by said board

Hope we play well and offer a good game against Liverpool

Leave all the transfers, selling players and recruitment of new to those who are paid to do it

Good luck Ronald and the team

Yours

English by birth
Saints by the grace of god !

I'm a Saints fan
Have been longer than these players have been born
We were here before you and will be after you are gone
The club is bigger than any individual
I make no view on the board or it's motives
I support Saints and am realistic to know that screaming and shouting from a fan will not alter the running of "the product" by said board
Hope we play well and offer a good game against Liverpool
Leave all the transfers, selling players and recruitment of new to those who are paid to do it
Good luck Ronald and the team
Yours
English by birth
Saints by the grace of god !SodburySaint93

Let's be honest Morgan your a good footballer but if it wasn't for Clement Grenier pulling a fetlock just before the world cup Deschampes didn't give a to$$ about you. I doubt when the FFF have a full and fighting fit compliment to choose from you will be anywhere near the squad. so you can choose from the following free advice:
1) don't bite the hand
2) not on your own doorstep

All the very best hopes and prayers Mr & Mrs Costa Baz for your battles.

Let's be honest Morgan your a good footballer but if it wasn't for Clement Grenier pulling a fetlock just before the world cup Deschampes didn't give a to$$ about you. I doubt when the FFF have a full and fighting fit compliment to choose from you will be anywhere near the squad. so you can choose from the following free advice:
1) don't bite the hand
2) not on your own doorstep
All the very best hopes and prayers Mr & Mrs Costa Baz for your battles.Sherborne Saint

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Baz, wishing Mrs Costa all the very best in her recovery.
Looking forward to good news later, when she's made a full, and wonderful recovery.
Footy is our passion, hobby, and poison, but it pales into insignificance against any suffering of the one we truly love.
Sending all our positive vibes and wishes,
Mr&amp;Mrs Bracknell

All the best fella and the Mrs on the recovery

Mr&Mrs Sodbury

[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Baz, wishing Mrs Costa all the very best in her recovery.
Looking forward to good news later, when she's made a full, and wonderful recovery.
Footy is our passion, hobby, and poison, but it pales into insignificance against any suffering of the one we truly love.
Sending all our positive vibes and wishes,
Mr&Mrs Bracknell[/p][/quote]All the best fella and the Mrs on the recovery
Mr&Mrs SodburySodburySaint93

Costa Baz wrote:
Too many to quote, so a heartfelt thank you for the kind comments.

Costa Baz, I am a little late on this thread but I send my heartfelt sympathy to and Mrs Costa Baz.

As we all know, there has been a lot of bad news on here recently but nothing like you both are encountering. I sincerely hope in the months to come you will be able to give us some good news. Now, every time you post, I will be thinking of you. If I may, love to to you both!

And to Spiderman, stuff you!! Remember there are others in this world who are really, really important

Me too Baz. I sincerely wish you and your wife well. You have put everything into perspective tonight.

[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Too many to quote, so a heartfelt thank you for the kind comments.[/p][/quote]Costa Baz, I am a little late on this thread but I send my heartfelt sympathy to and Mrs Costa Baz.
As we all know, there has been a lot of bad news on here recently but nothing like you both are encountering. I sincerely hope in the months to come you will be able to give us some good news. Now, every time you post, I will be thinking of you. If I may, love to to you both!
And to Spiderman, stuff you!! Remember there are others in this world who are really, really important[/p][/quote]Me too Baz. I sincerely wish you and your wife well. You have put everything into perspective tonight.Saints n Winners

Costa Baz wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.

You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

Baz I'm sorry to hear about the adversities your wife is facing. I wish you both the best.

I also wish you all the best and a speedy recovery for your wife.

Sorry to hear that, puts it all into perspctive, good luck

Baz, Having worked in Oncology Wards I have seen for myself many happy success storys and my special sincere best wishes go to you and all of your family. When I read those pathetic childish words of MS I also thought the same as you and many Saints supporters. he wouldn't have a clue of how the other half live he's been brought up in a fantisy footballers world where he has wanted for NOTHING, but I guess that he will have his own way in the end, you cant have a player that doesn't want to be their even if he never plays for the premier side Saints will still have to pay him, same as the Luvren episode so it is best that he goe's ASAP.

[quote][p][bold]bbb001[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Hey Morgan
6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk.
There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord.
On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung.
She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile.
She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS.
You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]Baz I'm sorry to hear about the adversities your wife is facing. I wish you both the best.[/p][/quote]I also wish you all the best and a speedy recovery for your wife.[/p][/quote]Sorry to hear that, puts it all into perspctive, good luck[/p][/quote]Baz, Having worked in Oncology Wards I have seen for myself many happy success storys and my special sincere best wishes go to you and all of your family. When I read those pathetic childish words of MS I also thought the same as you and many Saints supporters. he wouldn't have a clue of how the other half live he's been brought up in a fantisy footballers world where he has wanted for NOTHING, but I guess that he will have his own way in the end, you cant have a player that doesn't want to be their even if he never plays for the premier side Saints will still have to pay him, same as the Luvren episode so it is best that he goe's ASAP.fritzer

Costa Baz wrote: Hey Morgan 6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk. There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord. On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung. She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile. She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS. You don't know the meaning of the word &quot;destroyed".

best wishes to you and the other half Baz hope it all works out fine for you both. ive had many dealings, and still do, with the NHS over the last few years, including physios and think they are absolutely brilliant and will do anything they can to help you both. good luck mate.

This puts it all into context I think good post and I sincerely hope your wife recovers fully. Folks it is only football and I know its our beloved Saints. I think we are in good hands let us all give them a chance. COYS

[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Hey Morgan 6 weeks ago, my wife of 39 years, suddenly lost the ability to walk. There was no warning. Turns out she had a tumour on her spine, that had reached a critical point, and compromised her spinal cord. On top of that, she was told that this was a secondary cancer, with the primary cancer being in her lung. She is now having chemotherapy and lost (her pride and joy) hair, but instead of throwing her toys out of the pram and whining like a ****, she is facing it head on, with a cuss and a smile. She is having physio to try and recover the use of her legs, but unlike you prima donnas who receive state of the art, private, one to one support, she has to have this done on the NHS. You don't know the meaning of the word "destroyed".[/p][/quote]best wishes to you and the other half Baz hope it all works out fine for you both. ive had many dealings, and still do, with the NHS over the last few years, including physios and think they are absolutely brilliant and will do anything they can to help you both. good luck mate.[/p][/quote]This puts it all into context I think good post and I sincerely hope your wife recovers fully. Folks it is only football and I know its our beloved Saints. I think we are in good hands let us all give them a chance. COYSmikesugar

Mattyboysaints wrote:
Morgan ..... who the F£&amp;@ do u think you are, you have been paid well, given an opportunity, under contract, now u have posted on Twitter and made yourself look a FOOL. Totally disrespectful to the fans and the club who support you. SHAME ON YOU.

He has seen Lovren get away with it though, its like children playing up. Very good at playing football but half wits......

[quote][p][bold]Mattyboysaints[/bold] wrote:
Morgan ..... who the F£&@ do u think you are, you have been paid well, given an opportunity, under contract, now u have posted on Twitter and made yourself look a FOOL. Totally disrespectful to the fans and the club who support you. SHAME ON YOU.[/p][/quote]He has seen Lovren get away with it though, its like children playing up. Very good at playing football but half wits......Wozzie

I'm just going to become an optimist now, I've given up on being the merchant of doom. I couldn't even care if we didn't buy anybody and just gave the guys who want to play here a go. Would still love it if we signed some good young english players, or at least some premier league guys, surely ron vlaar has to be a main target now, he is prem ready after all.

I'm just going to become an optimist now, I've given up on being the merchant of doom. I couldn't even care if we didn't buy anybody and just gave the guys who want to play here a go. Would still love it if we signed some good young english players, or at least some premier league guys, surely ron vlaar has to be a main target now, he is prem ready after all.Gormzzz

Jon Forte wrote:
Koeman will resign if These two are sold. That is the issue..

no he won't.... because he will have £100M and 3 years to build a team.... only a total idiot would walk away from that opportunity.... we need to get realistic here ,,, these players are complete wank3rs ,,, who wants complete wank3rs in their team ? if you don't want to play for saints then fcuk off and let other play who want to. We will be fine.... I would rather finish 14th with a new squad than 8th again with the sh1tbags that treat the fans like dirt....

[quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote:
Koeman will resign if These two are sold. That is the issue..[/p][/quote]no he won't.... because he will have £100M and 3 years to build a team.... only a total idiot would walk away from that opportunity.... we need to get realistic here ,,, these players are complete wank3rs ,,, who wants complete wank3rs in their team ? if you don't want to play for saints then fcuk off and let other play who want to. We will be fine.... I would rather finish 14th with a new squad than 8th again with the sh1tbags that treat the fans like dirt....steekeemcglue

Costa Baz wrote:
Too many to quote, so a heartfelt thank you for the kind comments.

Costa Baz, I am a little late on this thread but I send my heartfelt sympathy to and Mrs Costa Baz.

As we all know, there has been a lot of bad news on here recently but nothing like you both are encountering. I sincerely hope in the months to come you will be able to give us some good news. Now, every time you post, I will be thinking of you. If I may, love to to you both!

And to Spiderman, stuff you!! Remember there are others in this world who are really, really important

Me too Baz. I sincerely wish you and your wife well. You have put everything into perspective tonight.

Baz. Not sure if you have been looking at alternatives - such as blood oxygenators (MSM) or bitter almonds (see link below). Good luck http://www.greenmedi
nfo.com/blog/apricot
-kernels-and-bitter-
almonds-display-prom
ising-effects

[quote][p][bold]Saints n Winners[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Too many to quote, so a heartfelt thank you for the kind comments.[/p][/quote]Costa Baz, I am a little late on this thread but I send my heartfelt sympathy to and Mrs Costa Baz.
As we all know, there has been a lot of bad news on here recently but nothing like you both are encountering. I sincerely hope in the months to come you will be able to give us some good news. Now, every time you post, I will be thinking of you. If I may, love to to you both!
And to Spiderman, stuff you!! Remember there are others in this world who are really, really important[/p][/quote]Me too Baz. I sincerely wish you and your wife well. You have put everything into perspective tonight.[/p][/quote]Baz. Not sure if you have been looking at alternatives - such as blood oxygenators (MSM) or bitter almonds (see link below). Good luck http://www.greenmedi
nfo.com/blog/apricot
-kernels-and-bitter-
almonds-display-prom
ising-effectsSaints n Winners

Morgan is the only player I wouldn't begrudge a move. He's earnt it. He stuck around in league one when the French coach was telling him to leave and has been the heartbeat of the five year plan. It doesn't help he's best mates with Lovren. Or that he's seen inferior past teammates leave for champions league money.

Morgan is the only player I wouldn't begrudge a move. He's earnt it. He stuck around in league one when the French coach was telling him to leave and has been the heartbeat of the five year plan. It doesn't help he's best mates with Lovren. Or that he's seen inferior past teammates leave for champions league money.techsture

Feel like this makes everything else make more sense. It's the players who are demanding to go and being totally petulant about it and there's so little the board can do. They tried to keep poch,, couldn't because he was never interested in staying, and then all the players demanded to go for bigger paychecks and I doubt any of them had any interesting staying either. Schmeiderlein will have to go because being a jerk works. The good news is that the board mean business and if we spend the money as promised there will be some rebuilding bumps but we hopefully aren't headed straight down the toilet.

Feel like this makes everything else make more sense. It's the players who are demanding to go and being totally petulant about it and there's so little the board can do. They tried to keep poch,, couldn't because he was never interested in staying, and then all the players demanded to go for bigger paychecks and I doubt any of them had any interesting staying either. Schmeiderlein will have to go because being a jerk works. The good news is that the board mean business and if we spend the money as promised there will be some rebuilding bumps but we hopefully aren't headed straight down the toilet.NY Saint

Yes, the club that helped you into the French World Club Squad, remember that? Ah diddums, you should be thanking Kruegar from saving you a Fellaini type experience at imploding Spuds, fecking ingrate. Does this mean you will no longer be collecting a salary from our club?

Yes, the club that helped you into the French World Club Squad, remember that? Ah diddums, you should be thanking Kruegar from saving you a Fellaini type experience at imploding Spuds, fecking ingrate. Does this mean you will no longer be collecting a salary from our club?Crispinmumbles

P.S Best of British luck to all those who are facing situations that make a nonsense of the importance idiots like me attach to twenty two overpaid ponces chasing an inflated pigs bladder around a rectangle of grass.

P.S Best of British luck to all those who are facing situations that make a nonsense of the importance idiots like me attach to twenty two overpaid ponces chasing an inflated pigs bladder around a rectangle of grass.Crispinmumbles

7saint7 wrote:
All he said was his amazing journey at the club had been &quot;DESTROYED"
He's right . Look at what Fat Cat and co have done to this club in a matter of weeks.

TW&T

[quote][p][bold]7saint7[/bold] wrote:
All he said was his amazing journey at the club had been "DESTROYED"
He's right . Look at what Fat Cat and co have done to this club in a matter of weeks.[/p][/quote]TW&Tandysaints007

techsture wrote:
Morgan is the only player I wouldn't begrudge a move. He's earnt it. He stuck around in league one when the French coach was telling him to leave and has been the heartbeat of the five year plan. It doesn't help he's best mates with Lovren. Or that he's seen inferior past teammates leave for champions league money.

That was only because nobody wanted him then! Nothing to do with loyalty

[quote][p][bold]techsture[/bold] wrote:
Morgan is the only player I wouldn't begrudge a move. He's earnt it. He stuck around in league one when the French coach was telling him to leave and has been the heartbeat of the five year plan. It doesn't help he's best mates with Lovren. Or that he's seen inferior past teammates leave for champions league money.[/p][/quote]That was only because nobody wanted him then! Nothing to do with loyaltyandysaints007

In any other profession I can think of, a contract is binding. If the undersigned were to back out on anything, there would be repercussions for that, whether it be in court or under the table. You would think that the more money involved, the more serious the repercussions would be.
I am obviously under a major misapprehension, as players seem to be able to dictate whatever they want regardless, and get away with it.

In any other profession I can think of, a contract is binding. If the undersigned were to back out on anything, there would be repercussions for that, whether it be in court or under the table. You would think that the more money involved, the more serious the repercussions would be.
I am obviously under a major misapprehension, as players seem to be able to dictate whatever they want regardless, and get away with it.KiwiSaint74

There could be light at the end of the tunnel.... Look at suarez, the season when he ended up staying at liverpool?? He was desperate to leave and get champions league football but he had a change of heart and ended up having the best season of his life!! There is still hope that he may decide to stay and will hopefully give 100 percent for the team. If he does calm down and decide to give it all for saints again, we need to forgive him and get behind him

There could be light at the end of the tunnel.... Look at suarez, the season when he ended up staying at liverpool?? He was desperate to leave and get champions league football but he had a change of heart and ended up having the best season of his life!! There is still hope that he may decide to stay and will hopefully give 100 percent for the team. If he does calm down and decide to give it all for saints again, we need to forgive him and get behind himSupersaint90

Feel a bit sorry for Morgan in a way (but only a little!). Of all the players he is probably the one who most deserves a transfer, given both his long service to the club and his professionalism while his teammates were being anything but professional. He spoke to the board early on, agreed to meet with Koeman, and generally conducted himself well throughout all of this (as fas as we know anyway). But he's been left behind, assuming the board mean what they say about him not being sold. The ones who threw their toys out of the pram (i.e. Lallana and Lovren) or turned their back on the club that developed them (i.e. Shaw and Chambers) got their big money moves. What lesson does that send out? Morgan now knows that next time he needs to act like a petulant kid to get what he wants. Great. I assume that's what this Tweet really is. He's probably been advised to throw a tantrum to force his move now that being the nice guy hasn't worked.

Feel a bit sorry for Morgan in a way (but only a little!). Of all the players he is probably the one who most deserves a transfer, given both his long service to the club and his professionalism while his teammates were being anything but professional. He spoke to the board early on, agreed to meet with Koeman, and generally conducted himself well throughout all of this (as fas as we know anyway). But he's been left behind, assuming the board mean what they say about him not being sold. The ones who threw their toys out of the pram (i.e. Lallana and Lovren) or turned their back on the club that developed them (i.e. Shaw and Chambers) got their big money moves. What lesson does that send out? Morgan now knows that next time he needs to act like a petulant kid to get what he wants. Great. I assume that's what this Tweet really is. He's probably been advised to throw a tantrum to force his move now that being the nice guy hasn't worked.andoru

The club only blocked his move because of fans reaction.they wanted to sell him and jris they didn't expect the vitriol from the fans.
He will still go and Ralph knows he has pushed up the price with this move.lets see if we spend every penny from player sales or will they hide behind terminology again.
Ralph will probably say he said he will only spend pennies from the sale of players.

The club only blocked his move because of fans reaction.they wanted to sell him and jris they didn't expect the vitriol from the fans.
He will still go and Ralph knows he has pushed up the price with this move.lets see if we spend every penny from player sales or will they hide behind terminology again.
Ralph will probably say he said he will only spend pennies from the sale of players.Sammy2sheds

Schneiderlin, you need to get some perspective mate. Your choice of words make me want to vomit. Read this guy's story about his wife and find out what it's really like to have what's around you destroyed in a moment.

You'll probably end up getting the move you so crave now you have spat the dummy, you'll still be playing the game you love in good health with a bank account we can only dream of. And you'll be treated like a god by the next bunch of mug fans.

Destroyed? Nah.

I hope we can all get behind RonKo. I feel for him, these players have disrespected him. He and the players we have left and new ones that join, need us behind them.

We are the Saints.

My wishes go out to Costa Baz, his wife and their families.
Schneiderlin, you need to get some perspective mate. Your choice of words make me want to vomit. Read this guy's story about his wife and find out what it's really like to have what's around you destroyed in a moment.
You'll probably end up getting the move you so crave now you have spat the dummy, you'll still be playing the game you love in good health with a bank account we can only dream of. And you'll be treated like a god by the next bunch of mug fans.
Destroyed? Nah.
I hope we can all get behind RonKo. I feel for him, these players have disrespected him. He and the players we have left and new ones that join, need us behind them.
We are the Saints.The stripes

Crispinmumbles wrote:
P.S Best of British luck to all those who are facing situations that make a nonsense of the importance idiots like me attach to twenty two overpaid ponces chasing an inflated pigs bladder around a rectangle of grass.

hahaha well put!

[quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote:
P.S Best of British luck to all those who are facing situations that make a nonsense of the importance idiots like me attach to twenty two overpaid ponces chasing an inflated pigs bladder around a rectangle of grass.[/p][/quote]hahaha well put!KiwiSaint74

pitbull wrote:
I have listened to Ralph on Skysports, Talksport and Radio Solent.
The best interview is with Adam Blackmore. Adam asked the correct and direct questions.
Ralph has had a sly dig at the previous chairman, manager and players.
He said that the players thought there was a shortcut to the Champions League while at Southampton.
When this didn't happen they wanted to jump ship to CL football instead of earning the hard way.

My assumption is that the previous chairman had made certain promises about getting to the Champions League by buying big money players. Basically overspending like Leeds and that lot down the road.

Ms Leibheir wouldn't allow this overspending so the previous chairman quit, followed by the previous manager and some brainwashed players.
They all said that the owner and board lacked ambition but spending the way the previous chairman wanted would have caused us major financial issues.
Don't forget, our previous chairman was against FFP.

If the club has no ambition why would they spend £20m on Tadic and Pelle. A club with no ambition wouldn't be looking to spend £9m on a goalkeeper and other players for around the £10m mark. A club with no ambition would be getting in free transfers and bargain basement players.

Adam also asked if Jay and Morgan were happy with the decision to which he replied that the didn't feel it necessary to say anything about their feelings.
I'm quite happy with whats been said and look forward to the next phase of Southampton Football Club.

Here's the interview with Big Adam.

https://audioboo.fm/

boos/2359653-southam

pton-chairman-ralph-

krueger-tells-bigada

msport-the-club-is-n

ot-for-sale-and-neit

her-are-jay-rodrigue

z-morgan-schneiderli

n#t=2m20s

good post pitbull.

yep, i think you have it spot on.

Cortese was a genius and sold players chmpion league football in 1 or 2 years. the majority on this forum couldnt beleive the champion leagues plan, it seemed akin to planning to live in mars.

We then played the best football of our lives. the results didnt really matter. the football was wonderful.

but here is the fact. we were as many points away from champion league than from relegation. we got hardly any points against th big 6 because we were a one trick pony that is too good for lower sides but cant handle the big boys.

do we honestly beleive that 3 or 4 players would have made us champion league material!! No.

So is it orth a gamble of 70 million to bring those 3 or 4 in at 70 mllion and risk being Leeds or Portsmouth. No.

As kruger has not said in so many words, enough is enough. we now go forard with waht they think is as good a team as last year (come the en of the transfer window).

What is great is that we can compare. our first 11 games are the same kind of level as last year. if we get 20 points, we will be top 8. 10 or less, we are relegation material. in beteen, mid table with some worrying runs.

judge Les, Kruger adn the wonderful savious Leibhrs then.

[quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote:
I have listened to Ralph on Skysports, Talksport and Radio Solent.
The best interview is with Adam Blackmore. Adam asked the correct and direct questions.
Ralph has had a sly dig at the previous chairman, manager and players.
He said that the players thought there was a shortcut to the Champions League while at Southampton.
When this didn't happen they wanted to jump ship to CL football instead of earning the hard way.
My assumption is that the previous chairman had made certain promises about getting to the Champions League by buying big money players. Basically overspending like Leeds and that lot down the road.
Ms Leibheir wouldn't allow this overspending so the previous chairman quit, followed by the previous manager and some brainwashed players.
They all said that the owner and board lacked ambition but spending the way the previous chairman wanted would have caused us major financial issues.
Don't forget, our previous chairman was against FFP.
If the club has no ambition why would they spend £20m on Tadic and Pelle. A club with no ambition wouldn't be looking to spend £9m on a goalkeeper and other players for around the £10m mark. A club with no ambition would be getting in free transfers and bargain basement players.
Adam also asked if Jay and Morgan were happy with the decision to which he replied that the didn't feel it necessary to say anything about their feelings.
I'm quite happy with whats been said and look forward to the next phase of Southampton Football Club.
Here's the interview with Big Adam.
https://audioboo.fm/
boos/2359653-southam
pton-chairman-ralph-
krueger-tells-bigada
msport-the-club-is-n
ot-for-sale-and-neit
her-are-jay-rodrigue
z-morgan-schneiderli
n#t=2m20s[/p][/quote]good post pitbull.
yep, i think you have it spot on.
Cortese was a genius and sold players chmpion league football in 1 or 2 years. the majority on this forum couldnt beleive the champion leagues plan, it seemed akin to planning to live in mars.
We then played the best football of our lives. the results didnt really matter. the football was wonderful.
but here is the fact. we were as many points away from champion league than from relegation. we got hardly any points against th big 6 because we were a one trick pony that is too good for lower sides but cant handle the big boys.
do we honestly beleive that 3 or 4 players would have made us champion league material!! No.
So is it orth a gamble of 70 million to bring those 3 or 4 in at 70 mllion and risk being Leeds or Portsmouth. No.
As kruger has not said in so many words, enough is enough. we now go forard with waht they think is as good a team as last year (come the en of the transfer window).
What is great is that we can compare. our first 11 games are the same kind of level as last year. if we get 20 points, we will be top 8. 10 or less, we are relegation material. in beteen, mid table with some worrying runs.
judge Les, Kruger adn the wonderful savious Leibhrs then.popper

pitbull wrote:
I have listened to Ralph on Skysports, Talksport and Radio Solent.
The best interview is with Adam Blackmore. Adam asked the correct and direct questions.
Ralph has had a sly dig at the previous chairman, manager and players.
He said that the players thought there was a shortcut to the Champions League while at Southampton.
When this didn't happen they wanted to jump ship to CL football instead of earning the hard way.

My assumption is that the previous chairman had made certain promises about getting to the Champions League by buying big money players. Basically overspending like Leeds and that lot down the road.

Ms Leibheir wouldn't allow this overspending so the previous chairman quit, followed by the previous manager and some brainwashed players.
They all said that the owner and board lacked ambition but spending the way the previous chairman wanted would have caused us major financial issues.
Don't forget, our previous chairman was against FFP.

If the club has no ambition why would they spend £20m on Tadic and Pelle. A club with no ambition wouldn't be looking to spend £9m on a goalkeeper and other players for around the £10m mark. A club with no ambition would be getting in free transfers and bargain basement players.

Adam also asked if Jay and Morgan were happy with the decision to which he replied that the didn't feel it necessary to say anything about their feelings.
I'm quite happy with whats been said and look forward to the next phase of Southampton Football Club.

Here's the interview with Big Adam.

https://audioboo.fm/

boos/2359653-southam

pton-chairman-ralph-

krueger-tells-bigada

msport-the-club-is-n

ot-for-sale-and-neit

her-are-jay-rodrigue

z-morgan-schneiderli

n#t=2m20s

good post pitbull.

yep, i think you have it spot on.

Cortese was a genius and sold players chmpion league football in 1 or 2 years. the majority on this forum couldnt beleive the champion leagues plan, it seemed akin to planning to live in mars.

We then played the best football of our lives. the results didnt really matter. the football was wonderful.

but here is the fact. we were as many points away from champion league than from relegation. we got hardly any points against th big 6 because we were a one trick pony that is too good for lower sides but cant handle the big boys.

do we honestly beleive that 3 or 4 players would have made us champion league material!! No.

So is it orth a gamble of 70 million to bring those 3 or 4 in at 70 mllion and risk being Leeds or Portsmouth. No.

As kruger has said but not in so many words, i have ball$ and enough is enough. we now go forward with what they think is as good a team as last year (come the en of the transfer window).

What is great is that we can compare. our first 11 games are the same kind of level as last year. if we get 20 points, we will be top 8. 10 or less, we are relegation material. in beteen, mid table with some worrying runs.

judge Les, Kruger adn the wonderful savious Leibhrs then.

[quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote:
I have listened to Ralph on Skysports, Talksport and Radio Solent.
The best interview is with Adam Blackmore. Adam asked the correct and direct questions.
Ralph has had a sly dig at the previous chairman, manager and players.
He said that the players thought there was a shortcut to the Champions League while at Southampton.
When this didn't happen they wanted to jump ship to CL football instead of earning the hard way.
My assumption is that the previous chairman had made certain promises about getting to the Champions League by buying big money players. Basically overspending like Leeds and that lot down the road.
Ms Leibheir wouldn't allow this overspending so the previous chairman quit, followed by the previous manager and some brainwashed players.
They all said that the owner and board lacked ambition but spending the way the previous chairman wanted would have caused us major financial issues.
Don't forget, our previous chairman was against FFP.
If the club has no ambition why would they spend £20m on Tadic and Pelle. A club with no ambition wouldn't be looking to spend £9m on a goalkeeper and other players for around the £10m mark. A club with no ambition would be getting in free transfers and bargain basement players.
Adam also asked if Jay and Morgan were happy with the decision to which he replied that the didn't feel it necessary to say anything about their feelings.
I'm quite happy with whats been said and look forward to the next phase of Southampton Football Club.
Here's the interview with Big Adam.
https://audioboo.fm/
boos/2359653-southam
pton-chairman-ralph-
krueger-tells-bigada
msport-the-club-is-n
ot-for-sale-and-neit
her-are-jay-rodrigue
z-morgan-schneiderli
n#t=2m20s[/p][/quote]good post pitbull.
yep, i think you have it spot on.
Cortese was a genius and sold players chmpion league football in 1 or 2 years. the majority on this forum couldnt beleive the champion leagues plan, it seemed akin to planning to live in mars.
We then played the best football of our lives. the results didnt really matter. the football was wonderful.
but here is the fact. we were as many points away from champion league than from relegation. we got hardly any points against th big 6 because we were a one trick pony that is too good for lower sides but cant handle the big boys.
do we honestly beleive that 3 or 4 players would have made us champion league material!! No.
So is it orth a gamble of 70 million to bring those 3 or 4 in at 70 mllion and risk being Leeds or Portsmouth. No.
As kruger has said but not in so many words, i have ball$ and enough is enough. we now go forward with what they think is as good a team as last year (come the en of the transfer window).
What is great is that we can compare. our first 11 games are the same kind of level as last year. if we get 20 points, we will be top 8. 10 or less, we are relegation material. in beteen, mid table with some worrying runs.
judge Les, Kruger adn the wonderful savious Leibhrs then.popper

pitbull wrote:
I have listened to Ralph on Skysports, Talksport and Radio Solent.
The best interview is with Adam Blackmore. Adam asked the correct and direct questions.
Ralph has had a sly dig at the previous chairman, manager and players.
He said that the players thought there was a shortcut to the Champions League while at Southampton.
When this didn't happen they wanted to jump ship to CL football instead of earning the hard way.

My assumption is that the previous chairman had made certain promises about getting to the Champions League by buying big money players. Basically overspending like Leeds and that lot down the road.

Ms Leibheir wouldn't allow this overspending so the previous chairman quit, followed by the previous manager and some brainwashed players.
They all said that the owner and board lacked ambition but spending the way the previous chairman wanted would have caused us major financial issues.
Don't forget, our previous chairman was against FFP.

If the club has no ambition why would they spend £20m on Tadic and Pelle. A club with no ambition wouldn't be looking to spend £9m on a goalkeeper and other players for around the £10m mark. A club with no ambition would be getting in free transfers and bargain basement players.

Adam also asked if Jay and Morgan were happy with the decision to which he replied that the didn't feel it necessary to say anything about their feelings.
I'm quite happy with whats been said and look forward to the next phase of Southampton Football Club.

Here's the interview with Big Adam.

https://audioboo.fm/

boos/2359653-southam

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krueger-tells-bigada

msport-the-club-is-n

ot-for-sale-and-neit

her-are-jay-rodrigue

z-morgan-schneiderli

n#t=2m20s

good post pitbull.

yep, i think you have it spot on.

Cortese was a genius and sold players chmpion league football in 1 or 2 years. the majority on this forum couldnt beleive the champion leagues plan, it seemed akin to planning to live in mars.

We then played the best football of our lives. the results didnt really matter. the football was wonderful.

but here is the fact. we were as many points away from champion league than from relegation. we got hardly any points against th big 6 because we were a one trick pony that is too good for lower sides but cant handle the big boys.

do we honestly beleive that 3 or 4 players would have made us champion league material!! No.

So is it orth a gamble of 70 million to bring those 3 or 4 in at 70 mllion and risk being Leeds or Portsmouth. No.

As kruger has not said in so many words, enough is enough. we now go forard with waht they think is as good a team as last year (come the en of the transfer window).

What is great is that we can compare. our first 11 games are the same kind of level as last year. if we get 20 points, we will be top 8. 10 or less, we are relegation material. in beteen, mid table with some worrying runs.

judge Les, Kruger adn the wonderful savious Leibhrs then.

Yes this is a good post from Pitbull. I think we're starting to see what really has gone on at the club through Krueger's comments.

Looking forward to some new players and the new season.

[quote][p][bold]popper[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote:
I have listened to Ralph on Skysports, Talksport and Radio Solent.
The best interview is with Adam Blackmore. Adam asked the correct and direct questions.
Ralph has had a sly dig at the previous chairman, manager and players.
He said that the players thought there was a shortcut to the Champions League while at Southampton.
When this didn't happen they wanted to jump ship to CL football instead of earning the hard way.
My assumption is that the previous chairman had made certain promises about getting to the Champions League by buying big money players. Basically overspending like Leeds and that lot down the road.
Ms Leibheir wouldn't allow this overspending so the previous chairman quit, followed by the previous manager and some brainwashed players.
They all said that the owner and board lacked ambition but spending the way the previous chairman wanted would have caused us major financial issues.
Don't forget, our previous chairman was against FFP.
If the club has no ambition why would they spend £20m on Tadic and Pelle. A club with no ambition wouldn't be looking to spend £9m on a goalkeeper and other players for around the £10m mark. A club with no ambition would be getting in free transfers and bargain basement players.
Adam also asked if Jay and Morgan were happy with the decision to which he replied that the didn't feel it necessary to say anything about their feelings.
I'm quite happy with whats been said and look forward to the next phase of Southampton Football Club.
Here's the interview with Big Adam.
https://audioboo.fm/
boos/2359653-southam
pton-chairman-ralph-
krueger-tells-bigada
msport-the-club-is-n
ot-for-sale-and-neit
her-are-jay-rodrigue
z-morgan-schneiderli
n#t=2m20s[/p][/quote]good post pitbull.
yep, i think you have it spot on.
Cortese was a genius and sold players chmpion league football in 1 or 2 years. the majority on this forum couldnt beleive the champion leagues plan, it seemed akin to planning to live in mars.
We then played the best football of our lives. the results didnt really matter. the football was wonderful.
but here is the fact. we were as many points away from champion league than from relegation. we got hardly any points against th big 6 because we were a one trick pony that is too good for lower sides but cant handle the big boys.
do we honestly beleive that 3 or 4 players would have made us champion league material!! No.
So is it orth a gamble of 70 million to bring those 3 or 4 in at 70 mllion and risk being Leeds or Portsmouth. No.
As kruger has not said in so many words, enough is enough. we now go forard with waht they think is as good a team as last year (come the en of the transfer window).
What is great is that we can compare. our first 11 games are the same kind of level as last year. if we get 20 points, we will be top 8. 10 or less, we are relegation material. in beteen, mid table with some worrying runs.
judge Les, Kruger adn the wonderful savious Leibhrs then.[/p][/quote]Yes this is a good post from Pitbull. I think we're starting to see what really has gone on at the club through Krueger's comments.
Looking forward to some new players and the new season.The stripes

This is fascinating. Every day before I go to bed I check this website for the next piece of bad news from the mother ship St Mary. In recent days they have not disappointed, a new piece of bad news every single day. Its like watching a car crash in slow motion, you don't want to look but at the same time you cannot take your eyes off what is happening. What really saddens me is that all the great memories of last season have been destroyed.

This is fascinating. Every day before I go to bed I check this website for the next piece of bad news from the mother ship St Mary. In recent days they have not disappointed, a new piece of bad news every single day. Its like watching a car crash in slow motion, you don't want to look but at the same time you cannot take your eyes off what is happening. What really saddens me is that all the great memories of last season have been destroyed.AucklandSaint

AucklandSaint wrote:
This is fascinating. Every day before I go to bed I check this website for the next piece of bad news from the mother ship St Mary. In recent days they have not disappointed, a new piece of bad news every single day. Its like watching a car crash in slow motion, you don't want to look but at the same time you cannot take your eyes off what is happening. What really saddens me is that all the great memories of last season have been destroyed.

You are making the same mistake as Morgan. What is happening now can no more destroy our memories of last season than could a one hour meeting destroy Morgan's six years here. The new season will not go the way we may have optimistically hoped but the quality of our team and its performance will be determined by what happens in the next month not what has happened in the past two months.

If you want to be upset about something focus on the fundamentally flawed financial structure of world football. Nothing like what has happened to Southampton FC could happen in a more rationally structured sport such as American baseball or American football. (If there is a more appropriate English sport to use for comparison I apologize for not knowing that. I am an American and, therefore, more familiar with American sports.)

[quote][p][bold]AucklandSaint[/bold] wrote:
This is fascinating. Every day before I go to bed I check this website for the next piece of bad news from the mother ship St Mary. In recent days they have not disappointed, a new piece of bad news every single day. Its like watching a car crash in slow motion, you don't want to look but at the same time you cannot take your eyes off what is happening. What really saddens me is that all the great memories of last season have been destroyed.[/p][/quote]You are making the same mistake as Morgan. What is happening now can no more destroy our memories of last season than could a one hour meeting destroy Morgan's six years here. The new season will not go the way we may have optimistically hoped but the quality of our team and its performance will be determined by what happens in the next month not what has happened in the past two months.
If you want to be upset about something focus on the fundamentally flawed financial structure of world football. Nothing like what has happened to Southampton FC could happen in a more rationally structured sport such as American baseball or American football. (If there is a more appropriate English sport to use for comparison I apologize for not knowing that. I am an American and, therefore, more familiar with American sports.)Redslo

We only sell to club that are in the Champions league... he will be waiting a loooong time to join the Spuds.

Whats the odds of us finishing above Spuds? might put a cheeky 1000kr on that.

Captain Morgan? not anymore, give it to Davis

We only sell to club that are in the Champions league... he will be waiting a loooong time to join the Spuds.
Whats the odds of us finishing above Spuds? might put a cheeky 1000kr on that.
Captain Morgan? not anymore, give it to DavisNorwegian Saint

N Ireland Saint wrote:
Well he is certainly angry about something, but he didn't exactly say it was because of not being able to move, perhaps he is just venting his feelings about the whole situation, as a lot of people are.

Certainly a strange tweet when you re-read it. Surely the journey would be over if he left anyway? Maybe he has been told he is leaving in Jan like it or not. Or as discussed on talksport its just a game to get more money for him and he doesn't want to go! TBH nothing would suprise me now!

The journey continues in any event.

[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]N Ireland Saint[/bold] wrote:
Well he is certainly angry about something, but he didn't exactly say it was because of not being able to move, perhaps he is just venting his feelings about the whole situation, as a lot of people are.[/p][/quote]Certainly a strange tweet when you re-read it. Surely the journey would be over if he left anyway? Maybe he has been told he is leaving in Jan like it or not. Or as discussed on talksport its just a game to get more money for him and he doesn't want to go! TBH nothing would suprise me now![/p][/quote]The journey continues in any event.SiamSaint

We have gone from a team people would queue up to play for created legions of admirers and were 50 million away from the elite…

Had this money to come from impoverished owners, a club hugely in debt or as with Leeeds a massive gamble on going all the way or going bust I could understand the reluctance to pursue the plan..

Yet this is not the case, the 50 million 'gamble' is a portion only of the huge Return on investment Katerina has reaped from her father and NC's vision.

Not only have the board clearly not impressed ANY of the players, what motivational speaking course in hell did Ralph go on, but everyone from here to Timbuktu knows we have no ambition, we have basically said do not expect us to push on ang get you European football at this club, no sir, you want that you had best move on, so, other than a few academy kids who with ambiion other than mercenaties worse than we had is coming??

RIP ambition 2014..a sad day for all.

I consider June 2014 the month ambition died at SFC..
We have gone from a team people would queue up to play for created legions of admirers and were 50 million away from the elite…
Had this money to come from impoverished owners, a club hugely in debt or as with Leeeds a massive gamble on going all the way or going bust I could understand the reluctance to pursue the plan..
Yet this is not the case, the 50 million 'gamble' is a portion only of the huge Return on investment Katerina has reaped from her father and NC's vision.
Not only have the board clearly not impressed ANY of the players, what motivational speaking course in hell did Ralph go on, but everyone from here to Timbuktu knows we have no ambition, we have basically said do not expect us to push on ang get you European football at this club, no sir, you want that you had best move on, so, other than a few academy kids who with ambiion other than mercenaties worse than we had is coming??
RIP ambition 2014..a sad day for all.warrens 76

Costa Gaz, you put things into perspective.
I send you my heart felt best wishes.
I truly hate to see what is happening at my beloved saints. and i have to say i,m firmly on the NEG,s side. Now having said all about asset stripping which i truly believed. I have to say in this day of tweeting and instagraming, why have none of the transferred player tweeted why they have left and why ??.
Nothing is that secret any more. and there has to be an overriding reason for this mass exodus.

Costa Gaz, you put things into perspective.
I send you my heart felt best wishes.
I truly hate to see what is happening at my beloved saints. and i have to say i,m firmly on the NEG,s side. Now having said all about asset stripping which i truly believed. I have to say in this day of tweeting and instagraming, why have none of the transferred player tweeted why they have left and why ??.
Nothing is that secret any more. and there has to be an overriding reason for this mass exodus.willygetaway

For all those berating the club for a wasted opportunity of breaking into the top 6 and for generating the firestorm that we've experienced over the past few weeks - get real.

Yes we all bought into Cortese's dream but that is all it was. We are now in the hands of professional business people who want success because that means money but who want to achieve it by steady sustainable development.

The players who were only here for the money and who couldn't resist the allure of supposed greener grass elsewhere have jumped ship and shown their true colours (Rickie excepted). Morgan may follow.

It's been tough but in reality that myth needed exposing and a new era commenced, one that even more than before will show one and all how a PL club should be run and success obtained. That is what is now nearing completion, and provided we can survive the first couple of months and get some momentum I believe that our trajectory will continue to be upwards - not just this season but for those to come. It may be at a slightly less exciting gradient but it will be sustainable, and I for one will be content with that.

For all those berating the club for a wasted opportunity of breaking into the top 6 and for generating the firestorm that we've experienced over the past few weeks - get real.
Yes we all bought into Cortese's dream but that is all it was. We are now in the hands of professional business people who want success because that means money but who want to achieve it by steady sustainable development.
The players who were only here for the money and who couldn't resist the allure of supposed greener grass elsewhere have jumped ship and shown their true colours (Rickie excepted). Morgan may follow.
It's been tough but in reality that myth needed exposing and a new era commenced, one that even more than before will show one and all how a PL club should be run and success obtained. That is what is now nearing completion, and provided we can survive the first couple of months and get some momentum I believe that our trajectory will continue to be upwards - not just this season but for those to come. It may be at a slightly less exciting gradient but it will be sustainable, and I for one will be content with that.saint christopher

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

Presumably because he didn't want to.

[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]Presumably because he didn't want to.Redslo

gman209 wrote:
Get rid of all the jumped up prima donna spoilt little **** . Who the **** do they think they are ! They join a club as nobodies and are happy to sign a contract , then as soon as they think they are superstars they wanna leave !!!! Too much too soon . Thats the problem . You can poke the premier league , im finished with it .

Must be off to a better club then a well supported club run by it's loyal fans.
We are a club in progress.

[quote][p][bold]gman209[/bold] wrote:
Get rid of all the jumped up prima donna spoilt little **** . Who the **** do they think they are ! They join a club as nobodies and are happy to sign a contract , then as soon as they think they are superstars they wanna leave !!!! Too much too soon . Thats the problem . You can poke the premier league , im finished with it .[/p][/quote]Must be off to a better club then a well supported club run by it's loyal fans.
We are a club in progress.cebu blue

saint christopher wrote:
For all those berating the club for a wasted opportunity of breaking into the top 6 and for generating the firestorm that we've experienced over the past few weeks - get real.

Yes we all bought into Cortese's dream but that is all it was. We are now in the hands of professional business people who want success because that means money but who want to achieve it by steady sustainable development.

The players who were only here for the money and who couldn't resist the allure of supposed greener grass elsewhere have jumped ship and shown their true colours (Rickie excepted). Morgan may follow.

It's been tough but in reality that myth needed exposing and a new era commenced, one that even more than before will show one and all how a PL club should be run and success obtained. That is what is now nearing completion, and provided we can survive the first couple of months and get some momentum I believe that our trajectory will continue to be upwards - not just this season but for those to come. It may be at a slightly less exciting gradient but it will be sustainable, and I for one will be content with that.

You make it sound like we had assembled an expensive collection of mercenaries from all over the globe. The truth is somewhat different to that. The team that finished eighth was made up of academy players, all of whom were here prior to Cortese's arrival, and some cheap buys from the lower leagues and Lovren.

Surely that is the cheap and sustainable approach rather than buying in expensive players?

[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote:
For all those berating the club for a wasted opportunity of breaking into the top 6 and for generating the firestorm that we've experienced over the past few weeks - get real.
Yes we all bought into Cortese's dream but that is all it was. We are now in the hands of professional business people who want success because that means money but who want to achieve it by steady sustainable development.
The players who were only here for the money and who couldn't resist the allure of supposed greener grass elsewhere have jumped ship and shown their true colours (Rickie excepted). Morgan may follow.
It's been tough but in reality that myth needed exposing and a new era commenced, one that even more than before will show one and all how a PL club should be run and success obtained. That is what is now nearing completion, and provided we can survive the first couple of months and get some momentum I believe that our trajectory will continue to be upwards - not just this season but for those to come. It may be at a slightly less exciting gradient but it will be sustainable, and I for one will be content with that.[/p][/quote]You make it sound like we had assembled an expensive collection of mercenaries from all over the globe. The truth is somewhat different to that. The team that finished eighth was made up of academy players, all of whom were here prior to Cortese's arrival, and some cheap buys from the lower leagues and Lovren.
Boruc free
Chambers free
Fonte £1.2m
Lovren £8m
Shaw free
Cork £750k
Morgan £2m
Lallana free
Davies £2m
Jay Rod £7m
Lambert £1m
Surely that is the cheap and sustainable approach rather than buying in expensive players?Seedhouse the Unrepentant

Norwegian Saint wrote:
We only sell to club that are in the Champions league... he will be waiting a loooong time to join the Spuds.

Whats the odds of us finishing above Spuds? might put a cheeky 1000kr on that.

Captain Morgan? not anymore, give it to Davis

There's no way he'll be captain next season.

That'll be Lloris.

[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote:
We only sell to club that are in the Champions league... he will be waiting a loooong time to join the Spuds.
Whats the odds of us finishing above Spuds? might put a cheeky 1000kr on that.
Captain Morgan? not anymore, give it to Davis[/p][/quote]There's no way he'll be captain next season.
That'll be Lloris.Raxx

willygetaway wrote:
Costa Gaz, you put things into perspective.
I send you my heart felt best wishes.
I truly hate to see what is happening at my beloved saints. and i have to say i,m firmly on the NEG,s side. Now having said all about asset stripping which i truly believed. I have to say in this day of tweeting and instagraming, why have none of the transferred player tweeted why they have left and why ??.
Nothing is that secret any more. and there has to be an overriding reason for this mass exodus.

There is an overriding reason, it's called money and the cachet of being able to say I'm a Chelsea player etc - Somebody in the Saints hierarchy (and I can't remember who) said something recently which really got my hackles up. He said that youngsters need to know that they can come to Saints academy and stand a chance of getting into a top club.
WTF - They need to know that if they train, eat, sleep and conduct themselves correctly they stand a chance of eventually making it into the Saints squad and that is where the real work starts.
How many of us posting on here would've loved at 15 years of age to have heard the words - I am a Southampton FC scout and I'd like you to come to our academy. I joined the Army and loved every minute of it and those are the only words I'd have wanted to hear over the recruiting officer saying congrats you've been accepted into the army.
These young men have a job and a lifestyle way beyond anything most of us on here can dream about - and it's still not enough for their egos.
You can't put a price on devotion to duty or loyalty and most of these youngsters have no sense of either. I hate the fact that I love football and Saints so much - I wish I was strong enough to walk away and take every long-suffering footie fan with me and watch the whole bloody corrupted mess fold up. Not a good way to start a day sri for the rant.

[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote:
Costa Gaz, you put things into perspective.
I send you my heart felt best wishes.
I truly hate to see what is happening at my beloved saints. and i have to say i,m firmly on the NEG,s side. Now having said all about asset stripping which i truly believed. I have to say in this day of tweeting and instagraming, why have none of the transferred player tweeted why they have left and why ??.
Nothing is that secret any more. and there has to be an overriding reason for this mass exodus.[/p][/quote]There is an overriding reason, it's called money and the cachet of being able to say I'm a Chelsea player etc - Somebody in the Saints hierarchy (and I can't remember who) said something recently which really got my hackles up. He said that youngsters need to know that they can come to Saints academy and stand a chance of getting into a top club.
WTF - They need to know that if they train, eat, sleep and conduct themselves correctly they stand a chance of eventually making it into the Saints squad and that is where the real work starts.
How many of us posting on here would've loved at 15 years of age to have heard the words - I am a Southampton FC scout and I'd like you to come to our academy. I joined the Army and loved every minute of it and those are the only words I'd have wanted to hear over the recruiting officer saying congrats you've been accepted into the army.
These young men have a job and a lifestyle way beyond anything most of us on here can dream about - and it's still not enough for their egos.
You can't put a price on devotion to duty or loyalty and most of these youngsters have no sense of either. I hate the fact that I love football and Saints so much - I wish I was strong enough to walk away and take every long-suffering footie fan with me and watch the whole bloody corrupted mess fold up. Not a good way to start a day sri for the rant.jls217

willygetaway wrote:
Costa Gaz, you put things into perspective.
I send you my heart felt best wishes.
I truly hate to see what is happening at my beloved saints. and i have to say i,m firmly on the NEG,s side. Now having said all about asset stripping which i truly believed. I have to say in this day of tweeting and instagraming, why have none of the transferred player tweeted why they have left and why ??.
Nothing is that secret any more. and there has to be an overriding reason for this mass exodus.

You don't really expect any of them to admit it was the big bucks do you ?

[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote:
Costa Gaz, you put things into perspective.
I send you my heart felt best wishes.
I truly hate to see what is happening at my beloved saints. and i have to say i,m firmly on the NEG,s side. Now having said all about asset stripping which i truly believed. I have to say in this day of tweeting and instagraming, why have none of the transferred player tweeted why they have left and why ??.
Nothing is that secret any more. and there has to be an overriding reason for this mass exodus.[/p][/quote]You don't really expect any of them to admit it was the big bucks do you ?Stnana

AucklandSaint wrote:
This is fascinating. Every day before I go to bed I check this website for the next piece of bad news from the mother ship St Mary. In recent days they have not disappointed, a new piece of bad news every single day. Its like watching a car crash in slow motion, you don't want to look but at the same time you cannot take your eyes off what is happening. What really saddens me is that all the great memories of last season have been destroyed.

You are making the same mistake as Morgan. What is happening now can no more destroy our memories of last season than could a one hour meeting destroy Morgan's six years here. The new season will not go the way we may have optimistically hoped but the quality of our team and its performance will be determined by what happens in the next month not what has happened in the past two months.

If you want to be upset about something focus on the fundamentally flawed financial structure of world football. Nothing like what has happened to Southampton FC could happen in a more rationally structured sport such as American baseball or American football. (If there is a more appropriate English sport to use for comparison I apologize for not knowing that. I am an American and, therefore, more familiar with American sports.)

Speedway ?

[quote][p][bold]Redslo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]AucklandSaint[/bold] wrote:
This is fascinating. Every day before I go to bed I check this website for the next piece of bad news from the mother ship St Mary. In recent days they have not disappointed, a new piece of bad news every single day. Its like watching a car crash in slow motion, you don't want to look but at the same time you cannot take your eyes off what is happening. What really saddens me is that all the great memories of last season have been destroyed.[/p][/quote]You are making the same mistake as Morgan. What is happening now can no more destroy our memories of last season than could a one hour meeting destroy Morgan's six years here. The new season will not go the way we may have optimistically hoped but the quality of our team and its performance will be determined by what happens in the next month not what has happened in the past two months.
If you want to be upset about something focus on the fundamentally flawed financial structure of world football. Nothing like what has happened to Southampton FC could happen in a more rationally structured sport such as American baseball or American football. (If there is a more appropriate English sport to use for comparison I apologize for not knowing that. I am an American and, therefore, more familiar with American sports.)[/p][/quote]Speedway ?Stnana

gman209 wrote:
Get rid of all the jumped up prima donna spoilt little **** . Who the **** do they think they are ! They join a club as nobodies and are happy to sign a contract , then as soon as they think they are superstars they wanna leave !!!! Too much too soon . Thats the problem . You can poke the premier league , im finished with it .

Must be off to a better club then a well supported club run by it's loyal fans.
We are a club in progress.

Yes, you must be, I heard you've got running water again after setting up a payment plan with the water company - well done mate, real progress.

[quote][p][bold]cebu blue[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]gman209[/bold] wrote:
Get rid of all the jumped up prima donna spoilt little **** . Who the **** do they think they are ! They join a club as nobodies and are happy to sign a contract , then as soon as they think they are superstars they wanna leave !!!! Too much too soon . Thats the problem . You can poke the premier league , im finished with it .[/p][/quote]Must be off to a better club then a well supported club run by it's loyal fans.
We are a club in progress.[/p][/quote]Yes, you must be, I heard you've got running water again after setting up a payment plan with the water company - well done mate, real progress.jls217

BigBugBuzzz wrote:
Enough is enough! Good the club finally stands up to these arshole players! Play, ****!

I thought you said if a player didn't want to stay he could go .

[quote][p][bold]BigBugBuzzz[/bold] wrote:
Enough is enough! Good the club finally stands up to these arshole players! Play, ****![/p][/quote]I thought you said if a player didn't want to stay he could go .rab2bar@yahoo.co.uk

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.

[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.Saintsayer II

AucklandSaint wrote:
This is fascinating. Every day before I go to bed I check this website for the next piece of bad news from the mother ship St Mary. In recent days they have not disappointed, a new piece of bad news every single day. Its like watching a car crash in slow motion, you don't want to look but at the same time you cannot take your eyes off what is happening. What really saddens me is that all the great memories of last season have been destroyed.

You are making the same mistake as Morgan. What is happening now can no more destroy our memories of last season than could a one hour meeting destroy Morgan's six years here. The new season will not go the way we may have optimistically hoped but the quality of our team and its performance will be determined by what happens in the next month not what has happened in the past two months.

If you want to be upset about something focus on the fundamentally flawed financial structure of world football. Nothing like what has happened to Southampton FC could happen in a more rationally structured sport such as American baseball or American football. (If there is a more appropriate English sport to use for comparison I apologize for not knowing that. I am an American and, therefore, more familiar with American sports.)

Speedway ?

This is one of those things we can learn from the septics. The governing bodies have to step in and cap the wages and bonuses. It's the only way this wonderful game can be saved from itself.
Good players in septic football aren't short of a bob or two and there is a code by which clubs and players must abide.

[quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Redslo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]AucklandSaint[/bold] wrote:
This is fascinating. Every day before I go to bed I check this website for the next piece of bad news from the mother ship St Mary. In recent days they have not disappointed, a new piece of bad news every single day. Its like watching a car crash in slow motion, you don't want to look but at the same time you cannot take your eyes off what is happening. What really saddens me is that all the great memories of last season have been destroyed.[/p][/quote]You are making the same mistake as Morgan. What is happening now can no more destroy our memories of last season than could a one hour meeting destroy Morgan's six years here. The new season will not go the way we may have optimistically hoped but the quality of our team and its performance will be determined by what happens in the next month not what has happened in the past two months.
If you want to be upset about something focus on the fundamentally flawed financial structure of world football. Nothing like what has happened to Southampton FC could happen in a more rationally structured sport such as American baseball or American football. (If there is a more appropriate English sport to use for comparison I apologize for not knowing that. I am an American and, therefore, more familiar with American sports.)[/p][/quote]Speedway ?[/p][/quote]This is one of those things we can learn from the septics. The governing bodies have to step in and cap the wages and bonuses. It's the only way this wonderful game can be saved from itself.
Good players in septic football aren't short of a bob or two and there is a code by which clubs and players must abide.jls217

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.

I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.

[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.[/p][/quote]I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.jls217

It is crying SHAME of inept management when everton get Barklay previously on 12,000 a week to stay and sign a 4 year deal. Everything looks rosy at everton as they line up Lakaku as a proven Prem League Scorer.

SOUTHAMPTON could be one of the TOP GROUP OF PREM CLUBS IN THE COUNTRY - but no Stoneham with 45,000 Stadium - no keeping Top Talent and Stadium Extension - just SHORT TERMism - and the resulting clear out and into the bottom half of the Prem we go ....

NOW JUST MAKING UP PREM LEAGUE NUMBERS ....... DISCGRACEFUL !!!

I will join the SFC Protest on 9th AUGUST

JOIN OUR SFC BOARD PROTEST AT ST MARYS ON 09-08-14AND HAVE YOUR SAY.

search facebook for SOUTHAMPTON FOOTBALL CLUB PROTEST or copy & paste the following link:

https://www.facebook

.com/pages/Southampt

on-Football-CLUB-Pro

test/819237574755032

WE HAVE BEEN RESTRICTED TO JUST EXISTING IN THE LEAGUE.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.
PROVINCIAL AND EXISTING IN THE PREMIERSHIP (JUST)
No 2 IN THE SOUTH (STADIUM SIZE)

It is crying SHAME of inept management when everton get Barklay previously on 12,000 a week to stay and sign a 4 year deal. Everything looks rosy at everton as they line up Lakaku as a proven Prem League Scorer.
SOUTHAMPTON could be one of the TOP GROUP OF PREM CLUBS IN THE COUNTRY - but no Stoneham with 45,000 Stadium - no keeping Top Talent and Stadium Extension - just SHORT TERMism - and the resulting clear out and into the bottom half of the Prem we go ....
NOW JUST MAKING UP PREM LEAGUE NUMBERS ....... DISCGRACEFUL !!!
I will join the SFC Protest on 9th AUGUST
JOIN OUR SFC BOARD PROTEST AT ST MARYS ON 09-08-14AND HAVE YOUR SAY.
search facebook for SOUTHAMPTON FOOTBALL CLUB PROTEST or copy & paste the following link:
https://www.facebook
.com/pages/Southampt
on-Football-CLUB-Pro
test/819237574755032
WE HAVE BEEN RESTRICTED TO JUST EXISTING IN THE LEAGUE.
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.
PROVINCIAL AND EXISTING IN THE PREMIERSHIP (JUST)
No 2 IN THE SOUTH (STADIUM SIZE)The Rise of The Foot Soldier.

thank you the board for at last standing up and letting us know your intentions, mogan obviously thinks the train has left without him as in the others have been allowed a transfer why can,t I. I t was stated much earlier that transfers had to benefit saints and the sale of morgan(no matter what he thinks is a benefit to saints ), enough havoc has been created to the saints team by greedy players in the last few weeks and it has to stop somewhere, and guess what, perhaps it is stopping here and now. No more disruptions from now on, only good ones,so let us all wait and see what happens between now and the start of the season,hopefully a good one under our new manager. If morgan decides to not honor his contract then just loan him out for the season, but not to any premiership club and perhaps next year he may reconsider, do not let him undermine the spirit of the team just because he can,t get his own way. After saying that it would be great if he just settled down and concentrated on playing football for saints once again as he is a GOOD PLAYER and we (the team, players and supporters ) need him. To morgan all i can say is NOW is NOT the wright time to be asking for a transfer, just settle down and do what you are good at, playing football, the grass is not always greener on the other side you mark my words,you may be ,as are many saints fans hoping, pleasantly supprised by RK and what he may achieve and be glad you decided to stay.just want the season to start so as we can all see where we are and start to move on from what has been a terrible close season for us all with the departure of so many players and their attitudes.

thank you the board for at last standing up and letting us know your intentions, mogan obviously thinks the train has left without him as in the others have been allowed a transfer why can,t I. I t was stated much earlier that transfers had to benefit saints and the sale of morgan(no matter what he thinks is a benefit to saints ), enough havoc has been created to the saints team by greedy players in the last few weeks and it has to stop somewhere, and guess what, perhaps it is stopping here and now. No more disruptions from now on, only good ones,so let us all wait and see what happens between now and the start of the season,hopefully a good one under our new manager. If morgan decides to not honor his contract then just loan him out for the season, but not to any premiership club and perhaps next year he may reconsider, do not let him undermine the spirit of the team just because he can,t get his own way. After saying that it would be great if he just settled down and concentrated on playing football for saints once again as he is a GOOD PLAYER and we (the team, players and supporters ) need him. To morgan all i can say is NOW is NOT the wright time to be asking for a transfer, just settle down and do what you are good at, playing football, the grass is not always greener on the other side you mark my words,you may be ,as are many saints fans hoping, pleasantly supprised by RK and what he may achieve and be glad you decided to stay.just want the season to start so as we can all see where we are and start to move on from what has been a terrible close season for us all with the departure of so many players and their attitudes.andy newbury

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

Presumably because he didn't want to.

'Cos he was short of a bob or two and woke up one morning thinking, "I know I can say yes to circling vultures and mug 'em off for ridiculous amounts of money because they seem to think just because a player is a Saints player he must be covered in Fairy dust and all they have to do is buy him and they will automatically get into the top four".
It also meant he could do a bit of deck clearing as there seemed to be an inordinate amount of **** building up at St. Mary's. The moment the smell subsided a bit he thought, "That's better, job done, I can have a lie in now and don't have to worry about the stench for a while".
It might have happened like that - you never know.
Other than that mate I haven't got a ferking clue.

[quote][p][bold]Redslo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]Presumably because he didn't want to.[/p][/quote]'Cos he was short of a bob or two and woke up one morning thinking, "I know I can say yes to circling vultures and mug 'em off for ridiculous amounts of money because they seem to think just because a player is a Saints player he must be covered in Fairy dust and all they have to do is buy him and they will automatically get into the top four".
It also meant he could do a bit of deck clearing as there seemed to be an inordinate amount of **** building up at St. Mary's. The moment the smell subsided a bit he thought, "That's better, job done, I can have a lie in now and don't have to worry about the stench for a while".
It might have happened like that - you never know.
Other than that mate I haven't got a ferking clue.jls217

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.

I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.

Jesus was back last night. He popped round. He absolutely assured me that MoPo would have signed a five year contract early this year but the club didn't offer it. The talk of 'let's wait until the end of the season' only started once they assessed the new board and wanted out. He called Ralph a liar. He said the debt was only £20m. He said the players would have stayed if MoPo had apart from Luke and possibly Adam who could have been persuaded.

It's water under the bridge now but I believe him.

[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.[/p][/quote]I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.[/p][/quote]Jesus was back last night. He popped round. He absolutely assured me that MoPo would have signed a five year contract early this year but the club didn't offer it. The talk of 'let's wait until the end of the season' only started once they assessed the new board and wanted out. He called Ralph a liar. He said the debt was only £20m. He said the players would have stayed if MoPo had apart from Luke and possibly Adam who could have been persuaded.
It's water under the bridge now but I believe him.Seedhouse the Unrepentant

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.

I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.

You chose to believe the new board about Cortese leaving whereas I now (after whats happened since May) have severe doubts As far as MoPo going I was quite happy for that to happen and believe that had NC stayed he may well have gone anyway

[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.[/p][/quote]I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.[/p][/quote]You chose to believe the new board about Cortese leaving whereas I now (after whats happened since May) have severe doubts As far as MoPo going I was quite happy for that to happen and believe that had NC stayed he may well have gone anywaySaintsayer II

CharlieOxbridge wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider &amp; JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.

This posting is spot on.

The villains at Saints are Krueger and the board.
The owner wamt's " OUT " and is determined to take out as much cash as she can.

Yes she will buy-in one or two players ( the replacements will be little known foreign players, I don't think English players will join given the current state of the club and it's management ).

I think she will spend no more than £ 20 Million of this £ 100 million + pot that some of you foolishly think is going to be re-invested in the club.

The club, presently still in the Premier League will still command a high price ( far, far more than her father paid for it ) as it still gets a good income from TV rights etc.), all a new buyer has to do is keep it from being relegated at the end of the season.

I wouldn't trust Saints board at all, they must be the most incompetent management team of any Premier League club, I genuinely fear for the future of your club.

[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider & JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.[/p][/quote]This posting is spot on.
The villains at Saints are Krueger and the board.
The owner wamt's " OUT " and is determined to take out as much cash as she can.
Yes she will buy-in one or two players ( the replacements will be little known foreign players, I don't think English players will join given the current state of the club and it's management ).
I think she will spend no more than £ 20 Million of this £ 100 million + pot that some of you foolishly think is going to be re-invested in the club.
The club, presently still in the Premier League will still command a high price ( far, far more than her father paid for it ) as it still gets a good income from TV rights etc.), all a new buyer has to do is keep it from being relegated at the end of the season.
I wouldn't trust Saints board at all, they must be the most incompetent management team of any Premier League club, I genuinely fear for the future of your club.one in the crowd

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

Presumably because he didn't want to.

'Cos he was short of a bob or two and woke up one morning thinking, &quot;I know I can say yes to circling vultures and mug 'em off for ridiculous amounts of money because they seem to think just because a player is a Saints player he must be covered in Fairy dust and all they have to do is buy him and they will automatically get into the top four".
It also meant he could do a bit of deck clearing as there seemed to be an inordinate amount of **** building up at St. Mary's. The moment the smell subsided a bit he thought, "That's better, job done, I can have a lie in now and don't have to worry about the stench for a while".
It might have happened like that - you never know.
Other than that mate I haven't got a ferking clue.

Or he could have said 'no we are the verge of something quite unique here and we are not selling, we are buying two or three, and we are going to push forward'.

Look all the debate as to which was the right action will be resolved one way or the other when we know our final league position come May. That's the beauty of football at the end of the day the points are totalled up and the answer is black and white.

[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Redslo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]Presumably because he didn't want to.[/p][/quote]'Cos he was short of a bob or two and woke up one morning thinking, "I know I can say yes to circling vultures and mug 'em off for ridiculous amounts of money because they seem to think just because a player is a Saints player he must be covered in Fairy dust and all they have to do is buy him and they will automatically get into the top four".
It also meant he could do a bit of deck clearing as there seemed to be an inordinate amount of **** building up at St. Mary's. The moment the smell subsided a bit he thought, "That's better, job done, I can have a lie in now and don't have to worry about the stench for a while".
It might have happened like that - you never know.
Other than that mate I haven't got a ferking clue.[/p][/quote]Or he could have said 'no we are the verge of something quite unique here and we are not selling, we are buying two or three, and we are going to push forward'.
Look all the debate as to which was the right action will be resolved one way or the other when we know our final league position come May. That's the beauty of football at the end of the day the points are totalled up and the answer is black and white.Seedhouse the Unrepentant

warrens 76 wrote:
I consider June 2014 the month ambition died at SFC..

We have gone from a team people would queue up to play for created legions of admirers and were 50 million away from the elite…

Had this money to come from impoverished owners, a club hugely in debt or as with Leeeds a massive gamble on going all the way or going bust I could understand the reluctance to pursue the plan..

Yet this is not the case, the 50 million 'gamble' is a portion only of the huge Return on investment Katerina has reaped from her father and NC's vision.

Not only have the board clearly not impressed ANY of the players, what motivational speaking course in hell did Ralph go on, but everyone from here to Timbuktu knows we have no ambition, we have basically said do not expect us to push on ang get you European football at this club, no sir, you want that you had best move on, so, other than a few academy kids who with ambiion other than mercenaties worse than we had is coming??

RIP ambition 2014..a sad day for all.

Unfortunately approx 14/15 other clubs in the PL are having to view it the same way too. The odds are stacked against us firmly by the cartel at the top. Fair play as back fired in a way only they would have been able to see as they were the ones influencing the decision makers. I think you'll find once you've finished you wailing and whining that the thing we really don't have and is really hindering us is a 70k stadium and the bums to fill the seats. We are not the marketable commodity that Manure is for example.
The only thing that was going to impress those who left was 75k plus a year.Even Chelsea couldn't afford to pay Shaw what he was demanding - so get real.
The club is, now, we are rid of the **** or bust attitude of NC being run as a business should be. One eye on balancing the books and the other on an opportunity. It's being built from the ground up and striving not to be caught up in the bubble which so many others are buying into.
If risks are to be taken they must be correctly assessed risks and not of the 50/50 kind.
I want to hear if the rumour about setting up an academy in the USA is correct. Now that is risk which is minimal and would pay huge dividends as interest in the game over there grows. They take their sport very seriously and won't stop until they are mixing it with the big boys - we can have a hand in supplying the talent for that and the rewards could be enormous.
How's that for ambition?
But you do like a moan don't you Warren?

[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote:
I consider June 2014 the month ambition died at SFC..
We have gone from a team people would queue up to play for created legions of admirers and were 50 million away from the elite…
Had this money to come from impoverished owners, a club hugely in debt or as with Leeeds a massive gamble on going all the way or going bust I could understand the reluctance to pursue the plan..
Yet this is not the case, the 50 million 'gamble' is a portion only of the huge Return on investment Katerina has reaped from her father and NC's vision.
Not only have the board clearly not impressed ANY of the players, what motivational speaking course in hell did Ralph go on, but everyone from here to Timbuktu knows we have no ambition, we have basically said do not expect us to push on ang get you European football at this club, no sir, you want that you had best move on, so, other than a few academy kids who with ambiion other than mercenaties worse than we had is coming??
RIP ambition 2014..a sad day for all.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately approx 14/15 other clubs in the PL are having to view it the same way too. The odds are stacked against us firmly by the cartel at the top. Fair play as back fired in a way only they would have been able to see as they were the ones influencing the decision makers. I think you'll find once you've finished you wailing and whining that the thing we really don't have and is really hindering us is a 70k stadium and the bums to fill the seats. We are not the marketable commodity that Manure is for example.
The only thing that was going to impress those who left was 75k plus a year.Even Chelsea couldn't afford to pay Shaw what he was demanding - so get real.
The club is, now, we are rid of the **** or bust attitude of NC being run as a business should be. One eye on balancing the books and the other on an opportunity. It's being built from the ground up and striving not to be caught up in the bubble which so many others are buying into.
If risks are to be taken they must be correctly assessed risks and not of the 50/50 kind.
I want to hear if the rumour about setting up an academy in the USA is correct. Now that is risk which is minimal and would pay huge dividends as interest in the game over there grows. They take their sport very seriously and won't stop until they are mixing it with the big boys - we can have a hand in supplying the talent for that and the rewards could be enormous.
How's that for ambition?
But you do like a moan don't you Warren?jls217

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.

So far as soon as the money was on the Table - Krueger has taken it and left the side weakened and not able to FIGHT very well in the Premiership.

A blanket statement to say we are hopeful of getting in 3 by the end of the week lacks any real conviction.

Protest at Brighton Away and before Bayer Leverkusen Game. COYR+WS

[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.[/p][/quote]So far as soon as the money was on the Table - Krueger has taken it and left the side weakened and not able to FIGHT very well in the Premiership.
A blanket statement to say we are hopeful of getting in 3 by the end of the week lacks any real conviction.
Protest at Brighton Away and before Bayer Leverkusen Game. COYR+WSThe Rise of The Foot Soldier.

BarnetSaint wrote:
This whole saga beggars belief.
Kruger has gone on national radio and stated that MS is not for sale.
Great!
Finally some good news.
Surely to god the player would have known about this and presumably ok, but no.
We the fans find out before he does.
Now MS is behaving like a brat but above all, Kruger has made a monumental balls up by trying to appease us.
The whole thing stinks.

Spot on. He speaks once and makes a complete arris of it. It's not even a slip of the tongue, it's a preconsidered tactical move. I feel a nob because I naturally assumed the statement must be with Morgan's blessing so it was great news. Unbelievable stupidity. I want his job and would do it for one tenth of his salary. I give up.

Do Krueger's job? You can't even read, mate! The meeting was held, Schneiderlin was told. Then he got all upset. And so did you. Diddums.

[quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote:
This whole saga beggars belief.
Kruger has gone on national radio and stated that MS is not for sale.
Great!
Finally some good news.
Surely to god the player would have known about this and presumably ok, but no.
We the fans find out before he does.
Now MS is behaving like a brat but above all, Kruger has made a monumental balls up by trying to appease us.
The whole thing stinks.[/p][/quote]Spot on. He speaks once and makes a complete arris of it. It's not even a slip of the tongue, it's a preconsidered tactical move. I feel a nob because I naturally assumed the statement must be with Morgan's blessing so it was great news. Unbelievable stupidity. I want his job and would do it for one tenth of his salary. I give up.[/p][/quote]Do Krueger's job? You can't even read, mate! The meeting was held, Schneiderlin was told. Then he got all upset. And so did you. Diddums.batesieboy

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.

I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.

Jesus was back last night. He popped round. He absolutely assured me that MoPo would have signed a five year contract early this year but the club didn't offer it. The talk of 'let's wait until the end of the season' only started once they assessed the new board and wanted out. He called Ralph a liar. He said the debt was only £20m. He said the players would have stayed if MoPo had apart from Luke and possibly Adam who could have been persuaded.

It's water under the bridge now but I believe him.

Seed Do you mean when MoPo and his staff had asessed their new bosses If so it adds weight to the theory that they went because they knew the sale was coming

[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.[/p][/quote]I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.[/p][/quote]Jesus was back last night. He popped round. He absolutely assured me that MoPo would have signed a five year contract early this year but the club didn't offer it. The talk of 'let's wait until the end of the season' only started once they assessed the new board and wanted out. He called Ralph a liar. He said the debt was only £20m. He said the players would have stayed if MoPo had apart from Luke and possibly Adam who could have been persuaded.
It's water under the bridge now but I believe him.[/p][/quote]Seed Do you mean when MoPo and his staff had asessed their new bosses If so it adds weight to the theory that they went because they knew the sale was comingSaintsayer II

aldermoorboy wrote:
Let any player go who doesn't want to be here, unhappy players will cause problems.

If it was one to two for the Summer - we would all agree ; however, we need to have some quality left in the Squad so we are not on the end of 8-0 losses to clubs like Chelsea Arsenal Liverpool Man City etc.

The actions of the money grabbing board have left the SFC on the edge of existing this League. COYR+WS

[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote:
Let any player go who doesn't want to be here, unhappy players will cause problems.[/p][/quote]If it was one to two for the Summer - we would all agree ; however, we need to have some quality left in the Squad so we are not on the end of 8-0 losses to clubs like Chelsea Arsenal Liverpool Man City etc.
The actions of the money grabbing board have left the SFC on the edge of existing this League. COYR+WSThe Rise of The Foot Soldier.

CharlieOxbridge wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider &amp; JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.

This posting is spot on.

The villains at Saints are Krueger and the board.
The owner wamt's &quot; OUT " and is determined to take out as much cash as she can.

Yes she will buy-in one or two players ( the replacements will be little known foreign players, I don't think English players will join given the current state of the club and it's management ).

I think she will spend no more than £ 20 Million of this £ 100 million + pot that some of you foolishly think is going to be re-invested in the club.

The club, presently still in the Premier League will still command a high price ( far, far more than her father paid for it ) as it still gets a good income from TV rights etc.), all a new buyer has to do is keep it from being relegated at the end of the season.

I wouldn't trust Saints board at all, they must be the most incompetent management team of any Premier League club, I genuinely fear for the future of your club.

You just can’t keep away from your trolling on here can you woolyback?
Of course on the other hand George Gillet and Tom Hicks were model owners weren’t they.
Get back under your rock, you should be more worried about how your season is going to blow-up in your face rather than ours. You had one easy season to get it right and you choked.

[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider & JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.[/p][/quote]This posting is spot on.
The villains at Saints are Krueger and the board.
The owner wamt's " OUT " and is determined to take out as much cash as she can.
Yes she will buy-in one or two players ( the replacements will be little known foreign players, I don't think English players will join given the current state of the club and it's management ).
I think she will spend no more than £ 20 Million of this £ 100 million + pot that some of you foolishly think is going to be re-invested in the club.
The club, presently still in the Premier League will still command a high price ( far, far more than her father paid for it ) as it still gets a good income from TV rights etc.), all a new buyer has to do is keep it from being relegated at the end of the season.
I wouldn't trust Saints board at all, they must be the most incompetent management team of any Premier League club, I genuinely fear for the future of your club.[/p][/quote]You just can’t keep away from your trolling on here can you woolyback?
Of course on the other hand George Gillet and Tom Hicks were model owners weren’t they.
Get back under your rock, you should be more worried about how your season is going to blow-up in your face rather than ours. You had one easy season to get it right and you choked.Mush On The Beach

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

Presumably because he didn't want to.

'Cos he was short of a bob or two and woke up one morning thinking, &quot;I know I can say yes to circling vultures and mug 'em off for ridiculous amounts of money because they seem to think just because a player is a Saints player he must be covered in Fairy dust and all they have to do is buy him and they will automatically get into the top four".
It also meant he could do a bit of deck clearing as there seemed to be an inordinate amount of **** building up at St. Mary's. The moment the smell subsided a bit he thought, "That's better, job done, I can have a lie in now and don't have to worry about the stench for a while".
It might have happened like that - you never know.
Other than that mate I haven't got a ferking clue.

Or he could have said 'no we are the verge of something quite unique here and we are not selling, we are buying two or three, and we are going to push forward'.

Look all the debate as to which was the right action will be resolved one way or the other when we know our final league position come May. That's the beauty of football at the end of the day the points are totalled up and the answer is black and white.

You're right only that day of reckoning should not be May of this coming season it should be May of the following season.

And it should not be if we can equal or beat 8th position as we've only managed once since the PL was formed - a world record holder will not beat that world record every time he/she competes.

It will be a case of - Have we upped our average gate? Have we had more requests for season tickets? Are we entertaining our fans? Do the TV companies want to see more of our games? Have we increased income from other sports or non sports activities, Can we afford to pay a little more but within our means, Can we start looking at building a new stadium, Are the books in the red or in the black, Is there another Alan Shearer or Le God coming through the academy. All of those are signs for the future also.

[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Redslo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]Presumably because he didn't want to.[/p][/quote]'Cos he was short of a bob or two and woke up one morning thinking, "I know I can say yes to circling vultures and mug 'em off for ridiculous amounts of money because they seem to think just because a player is a Saints player he must be covered in Fairy dust and all they have to do is buy him and they will automatically get into the top four".
It also meant he could do a bit of deck clearing as there seemed to be an inordinate amount of **** building up at St. Mary's. The moment the smell subsided a bit he thought, "That's better, job done, I can have a lie in now and don't have to worry about the stench for a while".
It might have happened like that - you never know.
Other than that mate I haven't got a ferking clue.[/p][/quote]Or he could have said 'no we are the verge of something quite unique here and we are not selling, we are buying two or three, and we are going to push forward'.
Look all the debate as to which was the right action will be resolved one way or the other when we know our final league position come May. That's the beauty of football at the end of the day the points are totalled up and the answer is black and white.[/p][/quote]You're right only that day of reckoning should not be May of this coming season it should be May of the following season.
And it should not be if we can equal or beat 8th position as we've only managed once since the PL was formed - a world record holder will not beat that world record every time he/she competes.
It will be a case of - Have we upped our average gate? Have we had more requests for season tickets? Are we entertaining our fans? Do the TV companies want to see more of our games? Have we increased income from other sports or non sports activities, Can we afford to pay a little more but within our means, Can we start looking at building a new stadium, Are the books in the red or in the black, Is there another Alan Shearer or Le God coming through the academy. All of those are signs for the future also.jls217

Any one else who wants to make their feelings known via social media should be put in the reserves. International players like Morgan will soon change their attitude when they miss out on European qualification games for their countries. RK said he didn't want to work with players who did not want to play for the club, so, why doesn't he have the power the discipline these individuals. I can only imagine the atmosphere amongst the squad right now, and the season ahead is looking like its going to be a long one. I hope i'm wrong but I can't see it going any other way. The only bonus is that I still think we are one of the strongest teams in the bottom half, just because of our style play. Teams like Villa and Wet Spam and West Brom will also have a tough year.

Any one else who wants to make their feelings known via social media should be put in the reserves. International players like Morgan will soon change their attitude when they miss out on European qualification games for their countries. RK said he didn't want to work with players who did not want to play for the club, so, why doesn't he have the power the discipline these individuals. I can only imagine the atmosphere amongst the squad right now, and the season ahead is looking like its going to be a long one. I hope i'm wrong but I can't see it going any other way. The only bonus is that I still think we are one of the strongest teams in the bottom half, just because of our style play. Teams like Villa and Wet Spam and West Brom will also have a tough year.swisssaint86

Glad one of Reed, Krueger and Liebherr has spoken up, over the past week we have needed one of them to make daily statements on what is going on at the club
Fair play to Morgan, he has not thrown his toys out like Lallana and Shaw did when they couldn’t go before the World Cup, and he has not stated that his head or any other part of him is elsewhere. That said, I can understand him being well p*ssed off that even Chambers has been allowed to go but he has to stay, but then he was not going to a club who Champions League aspirations
If Jay Rod had gone I would have put a bet on that Poch would have been sacked before he played for Spurs anyway!
I see Ross Barkley has signed a new four year contract at Everton, glad that they can keep their players, why cant Saints do that?

Glad one of Reed, Krueger and Liebherr has spoken up, over the past week we have needed one of them to make daily statements on what is going on at the club
Fair play to Morgan, he has not thrown his toys out like Lallana and Shaw did when they couldn’t go before the World Cup, and he has not stated that his head or any other part of him is elsewhere. That said, I can understand him being well p*ssed off that even Chambers has been allowed to go but he has to stay, but then he was not going to a club who Champions League aspirations
If Jay Rod had gone I would have put a bet on that Poch would have been sacked before he played for Spurs anyway!
I see Ross Barkley has signed a new four year contract at Everton, glad that they can keep their players, why cant Saints do that?the swinging arm of channon

techsture wrote:
Morgan is the only player I wouldn't begrudge a move. He's earnt it. He stuck around in league one when the French coach was telling him to leave and has been the heartbeat of the five year plan. It doesn't help he's best mates with Lovren. Or that he's seen inferior past teammates leave for champions league money.

Yes, but this isn't about whether Morgan should get (or does get) a move or not, people's are angry with Morgan because of the lack of class he has shown by making one very short, sharp tweet, when he should have kept quiet and conducted his business with discretion.

We can only speculate about what was said during his one-hour meeting but can assume he told Ralph that he wanted to leave. We can also assume that a club (Spuds or Gooners) were willing to negotiate a transfer.

Having said that, like you (and I said this some weeks ago), I wouldn't have begrudged him a move. In fact, at the end of last season, before the Lala move, I thought it was likely that he would go. He has served us well and probably needs European footy to convince the French FA and Dechamps that he has the ability to play for France (remember the Euros are here in 2016). It shouldn't be like that and it isn't his fault that it IS like that, but we all know that a player warming a bench for most of the season and then getting a run out on a Thursday night in Latvia has generally got a better chance of selection for countries like England or France than one who plays his socks off at Saints or, say, Hull in the Prem.

[quote][p][bold]techsture[/bold] wrote:
Morgan is the only player I wouldn't begrudge a move. He's earnt it. He stuck around in league one when the French coach was telling him to leave and has been the heartbeat of the five year plan. It doesn't help he's best mates with Lovren. Or that he's seen inferior past teammates leave for champions league money.[/p][/quote]Yes, but this isn't about whether Morgan should get (or does get) a move or not, people's are angry with Morgan because of the lack of class he has shown by making one very short, sharp tweet, when he should have kept quiet and conducted his business with discretion.
We can only speculate about what was said during his one-hour meeting but can assume he told Ralph that he wanted to leave. We can also assume that a club (Spuds or Gooners) were willing to negotiate a transfer.
Having said that, like you (and I said this some weeks ago), I wouldn't have begrudged him a move. In fact, at the end of last season, before the Lala move, I thought it was likely that he would go. He has served us well and probably needs European footy to convince the French FA and Dechamps that he has the ability to play for France (remember the Euros are here in 2016). It shouldn't be like that and it isn't his fault that it IS like that, but we all know that a player warming a bench for most of the season and then getting a run out on a Thursday night in Latvia has generally got a better chance of selection for countries like England or France than one who plays his socks off at Saints or, say, Hull in the Prem.Strasbourg Saint

Moving on, a few things:
1. Ralph's stand on Morgan and JayRod is what many have been calling for. Yet, this will now make it harder to convince players (Cork or new players, for example?) to sign a long-term contract. One reason for the Club to allow the others to go is to show other players that they can 'be reasonable'. Morgan must be feeling that the club has been 'unreasonable' (and inconsistent) with him.
2. This shows how hard it is for this board to get it right. Love or hate them, had they allowed (or, if they still DO allow) Morgan to leave - even for top money - many on here would have crucified them; they're damned if they do and damned if they don't
3. It's hard to see who has come out of this well; the club, the board, Morgan .... Despite the slating the board got for selling those 5 players, at least it's given Ron a decent little kitty.

Moving on, a few things:
1. Ralph's stand on Morgan and JayRod is what many have been calling for. Yet, this will now make it harder to convince players (Cork or new players, for example?) to sign a long-term contract. One reason for the Club to allow the others to go is to show other players that they can 'be reasonable'. Morgan must be feeling that the club has been 'unreasonable' (and inconsistent) with him.
2. This shows how hard it is for this board to get it right. Love or hate them, had they allowed (or, if they still DO allow) Morgan to leave - even for top money - many on here would have crucified them; they're damned if they do and damned if they don't
3. It's hard to see who has come out of this well; the club, the board, Morgan .... Despite the slating the board got for selling those 5 players, at least it's given Ron a decent little kitty.Strasbourg Saint

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

Presumably because he didn't want to.

'Cos he was short of a bob or two and woke up one morning thinking, &quot;I know I can say yes to circling vultures and mug 'em off for ridiculous amounts of money because they seem to think just because a player is a Saints player he must be covered in Fairy dust and all they have to do is buy him and they will automatically get into the top four".
It also meant he could do a bit of deck clearing as there seemed to be an inordinate amount of **** building up at St. Mary's. The moment the smell subsided a bit he thought, "That's better, job done, I can have a lie in now and don't have to worry about the stench for a while".
It might have happened like that - you never know.
Other than that mate I haven't got a ferking clue.

Or he could have said 'no we are the verge of something quite unique here and we are not selling, we are buying two or three, and we are going to push forward'.

Look all the debate as to which was the right action will be resolved one way or the other when we know our final league position come May. That's the beauty of football at the end of the day the points are totalled up and the answer is black and white.

You're right only that day of reckoning should not be May of this coming season it should be May of the following season.

And it should not be if we can equal or beat 8th position as we've only managed once since the PL was formed - a world record holder will not beat that world record every time he/she competes.

It will be a case of - Have we upped our average gate? Have we had more requests for season tickets? Are we entertaining our fans? Do the TV companies want to see more of our games? Have we increased income from other sports or non sports activities, Can we afford to pay a little more but within our means, Can we start looking at building a new stadium, Are the books in the red or in the black, Is there another Alan Shearer or Le God coming through the academy. All of those are signs for the future also.

No no no. The Cortesiests have seen 5 years of year on year growth delivered with a team of academy players and cheap lower league buys. We've seen sensible investment in the goose that lays the golden eggs - Staplewood. He also talked of a new stadium as 32k isn't enough.

Now the Kreugarists have usurped the crown they must deliver and not start saying 'yeah, but....'

[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Redslo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]Presumably because he didn't want to.[/p][/quote]'Cos he was short of a bob or two and woke up one morning thinking, "I know I can say yes to circling vultures and mug 'em off for ridiculous amounts of money because they seem to think just because a player is a Saints player he must be covered in Fairy dust and all they have to do is buy him and they will automatically get into the top four".
It also meant he could do a bit of deck clearing as there seemed to be an inordinate amount of **** building up at St. Mary's. The moment the smell subsided a bit he thought, "That's better, job done, I can have a lie in now and don't have to worry about the stench for a while".
It might have happened like that - you never know.
Other than that mate I haven't got a ferking clue.[/p][/quote]Or he could have said 'no we are the verge of something quite unique here and we are not selling, we are buying two or three, and we are going to push forward'.
Look all the debate as to which was the right action will be resolved one way or the other when we know our final league position come May. That's the beauty of football at the end of the day the points are totalled up and the answer is black and white.[/p][/quote]You're right only that day of reckoning should not be May of this coming season it should be May of the following season.
And it should not be if we can equal or beat 8th position as we've only managed once since the PL was formed - a world record holder will not beat that world record every time he/she competes.
It will be a case of - Have we upped our average gate? Have we had more requests for season tickets? Are we entertaining our fans? Do the TV companies want to see more of our games? Have we increased income from other sports or non sports activities, Can we afford to pay a little more but within our means, Can we start looking at building a new stadium, Are the books in the red or in the black, Is there another Alan Shearer or Le God coming through the academy. All of those are signs for the future also.[/p][/quote]No no no. The Cortesiests have seen 5 years of year on year growth delivered with a team of academy players and cheap lower league buys. We've seen sensible investment in the goose that lays the golden eggs - Staplewood. He also talked of a new stadium as 32k isn't enough.
Now the Kreugarists have usurped the crown they must deliver and not start saying 'yeah, but....'Seedhouse the Unrepentant

It's a tactic pure and simple, display unhappiness publicly and force a sale. The board can't be seen to leave a poison pill in the squad. They've let other plays get away with it and now the door is open for them all. The board must make an example of him and end this player control #learntfromlovren

It's a tactic pure and simple, display unhappiness publicly and force a sale. The board can't be seen to leave a poison pill in the squad. They've let other plays get away with it and now the door is open for them all. The board must make an example of him and end this player control #learntfromlovrenAssaul

Norwegian Saint wrote: We only sell to club that are in the Champions league... he will be waiting a loooong time to join the Spuds. Whats the odds of us finishing above Spuds? might put a cheeky 1000kr on that. Captain Morgan? not anymore, give it to Davis

There's no way he'll be captain next season. That'll be Lloris.

Is Lloris coming to Saints then?

[quote][p][bold]Raxx[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: We only sell to club that are in the Champions league... he will be waiting a loooong time to join the Spuds. Whats the odds of us finishing above Spuds? might put a cheeky 1000kr on that. Captain Morgan? not anymore, give it to Davis[/p][/quote]There's no way he'll be captain next season. That'll be Lloris.[/p][/quote]Is Lloris coming to Saints then?Norwegian Saint

The board cant back down over this. I understand what some are saying if he don't want to play let him go but krueger said we've drawn the line and to move that line what next Rodriguez could do the same and whoever else we cant give them the chance if it means morgan sits and rots for a bit so be it but we can't let the players think any more can bully the club. You never know morgan might decide to knuckle down but we will see.

The board cant back down over this. I understand what some are saying if he don't want to play let him go but krueger said we've drawn the line and to move that line what next Rodriguez could do the same and whoever else we cant give them the chance if it means morgan sits and rots for a bit so be it but we can't let the players think any more can bully the club. You never know morgan might decide to knuckle down but we will see.hagbourneutd

the swinging arm of channon wrote:
Glad one of Reed, Krueger and Liebherr has spoken up, over the past week we have needed one of them to make daily statements on what is going on at the club
Fair play to Morgan, he has not thrown his toys out like Lallana and Shaw did when they couldn’t go before the World Cup, and he has not stated that his head or any other part of him is elsewhere. That said, I can understand him being well p*ssed off that even Chambers has been allowed to go but he has to stay, but then he was not going to a club who Champions League aspirations
If Jay Rod had gone I would have put a bet on that Poch would have been sacked before he played for Spurs anyway!
I see Ross Barkley has signed a new four year contract at Everton, glad that they can keep their players, why cant Saints do that?

Because they are a consistent top 5 side paying £65k per week for one young player with a larger crowd and an extra £2.5million pound in prize money...............

It's not hard to work out , NC built Saints like a pack of cards, the new board are trying despite the 'Non Fair Play' league to build a sustainable business which will allow us to still have a football club in 5 years despite the incompetence of the FA and FIFA ................

[quote][p][bold]the swinging arm of channon[/bold] wrote:
Glad one of Reed, Krueger and Liebherr has spoken up, over the past week we have needed one of them to make daily statements on what is going on at the club
Fair play to Morgan, he has not thrown his toys out like Lallana and Shaw did when they couldn’t go before the World Cup, and he has not stated that his head or any other part of him is elsewhere. That said, I can understand him being well p*ssed off that even Chambers has been allowed to go but he has to stay, but then he was not going to a club who Champions League aspirations
If Jay Rod had gone I would have put a bet on that Poch would have been sacked before he played for Spurs anyway!
I see Ross Barkley has signed a new four year contract at Everton, glad that they can keep their players, why cant Saints do that?[/p][/quote]Because they are a consistent top 5 side paying £65k per week for one young player with a larger crowd and an extra £2.5million pound in prize money...............
It's not hard to work out , NC built Saints like a pack of cards, the new board are trying despite the 'Non Fair Play' league to build a sustainable business which will allow us to still have a football club in 5 years despite the incompetence of the FA and FIFA ................Buddy SFC

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.

I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.

Jesus was back last night. He popped round. He absolutely assured me that MoPo would have signed a five year contract early this year but the club didn't offer it. The talk of 'let's wait until the end of the season' only started once they assessed the new board and wanted out. He called Ralph a liar. He said the debt was only £20m. He said the players would have stayed if MoPo had apart from Luke and possibly Adam who could have been persuaded.

It's water under the bridge now but I believe him.

Seed Do you mean when MoPo and his staff had asessed their new bosses If so it adds weight to the theory that they went because they knew the sale was coming

Yes I do. They wanted to stay and so did the players apart from Luke. Adam wanted an enhanced contract. Jesus talked a lot last night. He talked of the huge potential here with no other professional club nearby (that really made me smile). He compared it to London where there are many other clubs competing for fans.

The new directors ignored the management team and they increasingly became frustrated until deciding to leave. Krueger lied to them. Jesus was adamant that they were cashing in and the club will be sold. Even he was flabbergasted at the sale of Chambers.

He said everyone knows the club now has money and is playing hardball. He said Celtic are good at it. He scouted Wanyama and admitted the we over paid for him. He rated Forster as only a £3-4m player, said Gazza is just as good. I questioned that and he reminded me he worked with him every day in training and pointed out the weakened defence when he got to play in the first team. If they had stayed they were after Ben Foster from WBA.

[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.[/p][/quote]I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.[/p][/quote]Jesus was back last night. He popped round. He absolutely assured me that MoPo would have signed a five year contract early this year but the club didn't offer it. The talk of 'let's wait until the end of the season' only started once they assessed the new board and wanted out. He called Ralph a liar. He said the debt was only £20m. He said the players would have stayed if MoPo had apart from Luke and possibly Adam who could have been persuaded.
It's water under the bridge now but I believe him.[/p][/quote]Seed Do you mean when MoPo and his staff had asessed their new bosses If so it adds weight to the theory that they went because they knew the sale was coming[/p][/quote]Yes I do. They wanted to stay and so did the players apart from Luke. Adam wanted an enhanced contract. Jesus talked a lot last night. He talked of the huge potential here with no other professional club nearby (that really made me smile). He compared it to London where there are many other clubs competing for fans.
The new directors ignored the management team and they increasingly became frustrated until deciding to leave. Krueger lied to them. Jesus was adamant that they were cashing in and the club will be sold. Even he was flabbergasted at the sale of Chambers.
He said everyone knows the club now has money and is playing hardball. He said Celtic are good at it. He scouted Wanyama and admitted the we over paid for him. He rated Forster as only a £3-4m player, said Gazza is just as good. I questioned that and he reminded me he worked with him every day in training and pointed out the weakened defence when he got to play in the first team. If they had stayed they were after Ben Foster from WBA.Seedhouse the Unrepentant

CharlieOxbridge wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider &amp; JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.

This posting is spot on.

The villains at Saints are Krueger and the board.
The owner wamt's &quot; OUT " and is determined to take out as much cash as she can.

Yes she will buy-in one or two players ( the replacements will be little known foreign players, I don't think English players will join given the current state of the club and it's management ).

I think she will spend no more than £ 20 Million of this £ 100 million + pot that some of you foolishly think is going to be re-invested in the club.

The club, presently still in the Premier League will still command a high price ( far, far more than her father paid for it ) as it still gets a good income from TV rights etc.), all a new buyer has to do is keep it from being relegated at the end of the season.

I wouldn't trust Saints board at all, they must be the most incompetent management team of any Premier League club, I genuinely fear for the future of your club.

And I wouldn't trust your assessment of the situation (or any other situation come to that) based on the misinformation you choose to be miserable about as outlined above.
Why are there so many foreign players being purchased by ALL PL clubs?
A. Because the clubs cannot afford the demands of English players or their initial transfer premium (Saints are no different from the other clubs - if we want English born stars we are going to have to produce our own - only rarely can we buy English if we spot a real bargain or a hidden gem like Ricky Lambert again - the same as other clubs.

Why are our English players attracting way OTT bids?
A. Because they feel they have to have more English players - our English starlets will be scrutinized like never before to keep within the rules and if the rules don't change they will continue to be sold for silly money (Even Barca and RM sell when the money is right)

Why is our academy being looked at and lined up for monetary raids?
A. Because it is arguably the most successful youth system in the world.

Why has she not okayed the use of of the transfer pot?
A. Who paid for Pelle, Kadic and the youngster for the future and how much? About 20mill and it came from the fighting fund, so if you're right and she spends ANOTHER 20mill (and I suspect there will be more than 20mill spent) and then takes the money to pay for those wages for the duration of that contract and all the sundry expenses for the pleasure of having that player be part of our squad then you can see how that money very quickly gets used.

What you should fear for the future of our club is what you should be fearing for football as a whole if they don't start living by the same basic rules of business that we must strive to adhere to and that is living within your means. There are no "Villains" except maybe hiding in your airing cupboard, there are just serious business people busying themselves in making sure Saints becomes a successful and sustainable brand.
Will Saints be sold in the future?
Possibly - everything is for sale if the price is right. What we don't want is so called fans getting up an owner's nose at every turn to encourage that owner to pull the plug - that's called a self fulfilling prophesy and nobody puts up with abuse forever from unreasonable bigots.
She and the team she employs, can be a force for the good at Saints and within the Southampton area - a lot of people feed their families as a result of the club and sometimes we have to remind ourselves not to bite the hand that feeds us.
Does she share her dad's passion for the club or love for the city.
A. Not really sure but I doubt she does. Remember Markus didn't exactly fall in love with Saints at first site. He grew into the club. Maybe, just maybe Katharina can do likewise - she seemed to enjoy the home games and even went to some away games (more than I managed)
Time will tell. What we cannot risk is that the attitude of the fans frightens her off before she gets truly hooked like her dad did.

Now this post is not for your benefit really as you are an outsider, a WUM and it really does not matter to any Saints follower what you (from whatever club you may follow - surprise me and tell me it's not one of the top six) think of our club, our board or our pies but there may be some on here who may be influenced by your twisted troll like bile and I hope I have given them a couple of things they may want to factor into their decision making process. In the meantime go and post on your own clubs forum please - I'm sure they'll welcome you.

[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]CharlieOxbridge[/bold] wrote:
Thought this one was obvious but can't you see want Krueger is doing. He knows full well that the SFC Board are going to sell them but he is forcing the hand of both Spider & JRod to do exactly what Lovren done. Make the players look bad and the board the innocent victim. I am worried now as I can see exactly what the board are doing and it's frightening.[/p][/quote]This posting is spot on.
The villains at Saints are Krueger and the board.
The owner wamt's " OUT " and is determined to take out as much cash as she can.
Yes she will buy-in one or two players ( the replacements will be little known foreign players, I don't think English players will join given the current state of the club and it's management ).
I think she will spend no more than £ 20 Million of this £ 100 million + pot that some of you foolishly think is going to be re-invested in the club.
The club, presently still in the Premier League will still command a high price ( far, far more than her father paid for it ) as it still gets a good income from TV rights etc.), all a new buyer has to do is keep it from being relegated at the end of the season.
I wouldn't trust Saints board at all, they must be the most incompetent management team of any Premier League club, I genuinely fear for the future of your club.[/p][/quote]And I wouldn't trust your assessment of the situation (or any other situation come to that) based on the misinformation you choose to be miserable about as outlined above.
Why are there so many foreign players being purchased by ALL PL clubs?
A. Because the clubs cannot afford the demands of English players or their initial transfer premium (Saints are no different from the other clubs - if we want English born stars we are going to have to produce our own - only rarely can we buy English if we spot a real bargain or a hidden gem like Ricky Lambert again - the same as other clubs.
Why are our English players attracting way OTT bids?
A. Because they feel they have to have more English players - our English starlets will be scrutinized like never before to keep within the rules and if the rules don't change they will continue to be sold for silly money (Even Barca and RM sell when the money is right)
Why is our academy being looked at and lined up for monetary raids?
A. Because it is arguably the most successful youth system in the world.
Why has she not okayed the use of of the transfer pot?
A. Who paid for Pelle, Kadic and the youngster for the future and how much? About 20mill and it came from the fighting fund, so if you're right and she spends ANOTHER 20mill (and I suspect there will be more than 20mill spent) and then takes the money to pay for those wages for the duration of that contract and all the sundry expenses for the pleasure of having that player be part of our squad then you can see how that money very quickly gets used.
What you should fear for the future of our club is what you should be fearing for football as a whole if they don't start living by the same basic rules of business that we must strive to adhere to and that is living within your means. There are no "Villains" except maybe hiding in your airing cupboard, there are just serious business people busying themselves in making sure Saints becomes a successful and sustainable brand.
Will Saints be sold in the future?
Possibly - everything is for sale if the price is right. What we don't want is so called fans getting up an owner's nose at every turn to encourage that owner to pull the plug - that's called a self fulfilling prophesy and nobody puts up with abuse forever from unreasonable bigots.
She and the team she employs, can be a force for the good at Saints and within the Southampton area - a lot of people feed their families as a result of the club and sometimes we have to remind ourselves not to bite the hand that feeds us.
Does she share her dad's passion for the club or love for the city.
A. Not really sure but I doubt she does. Remember Markus didn't exactly fall in love with Saints at first site. He grew into the club. Maybe, just maybe Katharina can do likewise - she seemed to enjoy the home games and even went to some away games (more than I managed)
Time will tell. What we cannot risk is that the attitude of the fans frightens her off before she gets truly hooked like her dad did.
Now this post is not for your benefit really as you are an outsider, a WUM and it really does not matter to any Saints follower what you (from whatever club you may follow - surprise me and tell me it's not one of the top six) think of our club, our board or our pies but there may be some on here who may be influenced by your twisted troll like bile and I hope I have given them a couple of things they may want to factor into their decision making process. In the meantime go and post on your own clubs forum please - I'm sure they'll welcome you.jls217

Blackknight wrote:
Just a bit concerned Krueger has said J Rod and MS won't be sold this summer.

Does this mean they are going be sold in the January transfer window?

Hope not.

Exactly what I thought

[quote][p][bold]Blackknight[/bold] wrote:
Just a bit concerned Krueger has said J Rod and MS won't be sold this summer.
Does this mean they are going be sold in the January transfer window?
Hope not.[/p][/quote]Exactly what I thoughtJ7junctionseven

the swinging arm of channon wrote:
Glad one of Reed, Krueger and Liebherr has spoken up, over the past week we have needed one of them to make daily statements on what is going on at the club
Fair play to Morgan, he has not thrown his toys out like Lallana and Shaw did when they couldn’t go before the World Cup, and he has not stated that his head or any other part of him is elsewhere. That said, I can understand him being well p*ssed off that even Chambers has been allowed to go but he has to stay, but then he was not going to a club who Champions League aspirations
If Jay Rod had gone I would have put a bet on that Poch would have been sacked before he played for Spurs anyway!
I see Ross Barkley has signed a new four year contract at Everton, glad that they can keep their players, why cant Saints do that?

I think the small thing of 65K per week had something to do with the loyalty shown by Barkley. I posted previously that Yohan Cabaye spat the dummy out and I thought then refused to perform for Newcastle. Somebody rightly corrected me that he had a good season for them and so hopefully Morgan gets over it and does the same.

Cabaye eventually got his move to PSG in the next window and the Geordies form nose-dived but that’s another story, best not go there.

[quote][p][bold]the swinging arm of channon[/bold] wrote:
Glad one of Reed, Krueger and Liebherr has spoken up, over the past week we have needed one of them to make daily statements on what is going on at the club
Fair play to Morgan, he has not thrown his toys out like Lallana and Shaw did when they couldn’t go before the World Cup, and he has not stated that his head or any other part of him is elsewhere. That said, I can understand him being well p*ssed off that even Chambers has been allowed to go but he has to stay, but then he was not going to a club who Champions League aspirations
If Jay Rod had gone I would have put a bet on that Poch would have been sacked before he played for Spurs anyway!
I see Ross Barkley has signed a new four year contract at Everton, glad that they can keep their players, why cant Saints do that?[/p][/quote]I think the small thing of 65K per week had something to do with the loyalty shown by Barkley. I posted previously that Yohan Cabaye spat the dummy out and I thought then refused to perform for Newcastle. Somebody rightly corrected me that he had a good season for them and so hopefully Morgan gets over it and does the same.
Cabaye eventually got his move to PSG in the next window and the Geordies form nose-dived but that’s another story, best not go there.Mush On The Beach

People on here are quick to judge Morgan who serve Saints for 6 years from bad to good time !. Shaw, Lallana, Chambers and Lovren are all gone and the club decide to take the money so why not with Morgan ? The kid had two great season in top flight unlike Shaw, Chambers, Lovren and Lallana who only had a good season . Between them lot he deserve to go if you ask me now the twitter message was very wrong and he should be punish for that if he stay . We should sale him he had no intention to stay with us and might not perform for the club and he's value will drop. The asking price for Morgan is way to high so this might put off buyer like Arsenal and Spurs. I think we should take the money in this story I really feel for the young players they see establish player go or wanted to go tough time in the South Oh well at least is sunny.

People on here are quick to judge Morgan who serve Saints for 6 years from bad to good time !. Shaw, Lallana, Chambers and Lovren are all gone and the club decide to take the money so why not with Morgan ? The kid had two great season in top flight unlike Shaw, Chambers, Lovren and Lallana who only had a good season . Between them lot he deserve to go if you ask me now the twitter message was very wrong and he should be punish for that if he stay . We should sale him he had no intention to stay with us and might not perform for the club and he's value will drop. The asking price for Morgan is way to high so this might put off buyer like Arsenal and Spurs. I think we should take the money in this story I really feel for the young players they see establish player go or wanted to go tough time in the South Oh well at least is sunny.killared

gman209 wrote:
Get rid of all the jumped up prima donna spoilt little **** . Who the **** do they think they are ! They join a club as nobodies and are happy to sign a contract , then as soon as they think they are superstars they wanna leave !!!! Too much too soon . Thats the problem . You can poke the premier league , im finished with it .

Must be off to a better club then a well supported club run by it's loyal fans.
We are a club in progress.

And there I was thinking you are skunt, only to be proven wrong by this post. You're an Ebbsfleet supporter arn't you.

[quote][p][bold]cebu blue[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]gman209[/bold] wrote:
Get rid of all the jumped up prima donna spoilt little **** . Who the **** do they think they are ! They join a club as nobodies and are happy to sign a contract , then as soon as they think they are superstars they wanna leave !!!! Too much too soon . Thats the problem . You can poke the premier league , im finished with it .[/p][/quote]Must be off to a better club then a well supported club run by it's loyal fans.
We are a club in progress.[/p][/quote]And there I was thinking you are skunt, only to be proven wrong by this post. You're an Ebbsfleet supporter arn't you.Clever Dick

The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.

None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.

Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.

Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!

I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.

The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.
None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.
Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.
Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!
I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.Alicesdad

Some of the less perceptive posters have simplified the differences in opinions on here by splitting us into neggies and positives. I think looking at the posts there are the passionate supporters who believe this whole thing has been a shambles and those that think, it will turn out ok, just wait and see, ok,yes even that is a generalisation. But I think that the club caved in too easily on player sales. Even this latest statement by Kruger smacks of panic. Now we need some serious action on the transfers in front, and quick!

Morgan is probably thinking why me. I reckon he is right.
Some of the less perceptive posters have simplified the differences in opinions on here by splitting us into neggies and positives. I think looking at the posts there are the passionate supporters who believe this whole thing has been a shambles and those that think, it will turn out ok, just wait and see, ok,yes even that is a generalisation. But I think that the club caved in too easily on player sales. Even this latest statement by Kruger smacks of panic. Now we need some serious action on the transfers in front, and quick!miltonarcher

None of this upheaval would be happening if KL hadnt fallen out with NC. Him leaving was the beginning of the end,as we are now seeing. He was ambitious for the club but she isnt interested in investing,which is why he left,Im sure.

None of this upheaval would be happening if KL hadnt fallen out with NC. Him leaving was the beginning of the end,as we are now seeing. He was ambitious for the club but she isnt interested in investing,which is why he left,Im sure.scorpioeyes

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.

I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.

Jesus was back last night. He popped round. He absolutely assured me that MoPo would have signed a five year contract early this year but the club didn't offer it. The talk of 'let's wait until the end of the season' only started once they assessed the new board and wanted out. He called Ralph a liar. He said the debt was only £20m. He said the players would have stayed if MoPo had apart from Luke and possibly Adam who could have been persuaded.

It's water under the bridge now but I believe him.

Seed Do you mean when MoPo and his staff had asessed their new bosses If so it adds weight to the theory that they went because they knew the sale was coming

Yes I do. They wanted to stay and so did the players apart from Luke. Adam wanted an enhanced contract. Jesus talked a lot last night. He talked of the huge potential here with no other professional club nearby (that really made me smile). He compared it to London where there are many other clubs competing for fans.

The new directors ignored the management team and they increasingly became frustrated until deciding to leave. Krueger lied to them. Jesus was adamant that they were cashing in and the club will be sold. Even he was flabbergasted at the sale of Chambers.

He said everyone knows the club now has money and is playing hardball. He said Celtic are good at it. He scouted Wanyama and admitted the we over paid for him. He rated Forster as only a £3-4m player, said Gazza is just as good. I questioned that and he reminded me he worked with him every day in training and pointed out the weakened defence when he got to play in the first team. If they had stayed they were after Ben Foster from WBA.

Not all of that adds up, Seed. If Jesus really feels that Gazza is as good as Forster, why would they have been looking for any new keeper?

Also, there are 4 London teams who regularly play in the prem and 6 others who often or sometimes play there. Central London has 8-10m people. Widening the area, there are something like 20+m people and up to about 20 League clubs (from Arsenal to Barnet, say). Comparing that to Southampton/Hampshir
e (plus Bournemouth), the populations are 250,000 (So'ton) / 2m (Hants). Do the sums. Around a million people per club verses between quarter and half a million. Even with the skunts firmly where they are and Bournemouth/Aldersho
t being poorly supported, our population potential isn't anything like as big as the bigger 10 London clubs.

Nevertheless, as we have agreed, the board does seem to have been (how can I put it?) 'imperfect' in certain ways.

[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.[/p][/quote]I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.[/p][/quote]Jesus was back last night. He popped round. He absolutely assured me that MoPo would have signed a five year contract early this year but the club didn't offer it. The talk of 'let's wait until the end of the season' only started once they assessed the new board and wanted out. He called Ralph a liar. He said the debt was only £20m. He said the players would have stayed if MoPo had apart from Luke and possibly Adam who could have been persuaded.
It's water under the bridge now but I believe him.[/p][/quote]Seed Do you mean when MoPo and his staff had asessed their new bosses If so it adds weight to the theory that they went because they knew the sale was coming[/p][/quote]Yes I do. They wanted to stay and so did the players apart from Luke. Adam wanted an enhanced contract. Jesus talked a lot last night. He talked of the huge potential here with no other professional club nearby (that really made me smile). He compared it to London where there are many other clubs competing for fans.
The new directors ignored the management team and they increasingly became frustrated until deciding to leave. Krueger lied to them. Jesus was adamant that they were cashing in and the club will be sold. Even he was flabbergasted at the sale of Chambers.
He said everyone knows the club now has money and is playing hardball. He said Celtic are good at it. He scouted Wanyama and admitted the we over paid for him. He rated Forster as only a £3-4m player, said Gazza is just as good. I questioned that and he reminded me he worked with him every day in training and pointed out the weakened defence when he got to play in the first team. If they had stayed they were after Ben Foster from WBA.[/p][/quote]Not all of that adds up, Seed. If Jesus really feels that Gazza is as good as Forster, why would they have been looking for any new keeper?
Also, there are 4 London teams who regularly play in the prem and 6 others who often or sometimes play there. Central London has 8-10m people. Widening the area, there are something like 20+m people and up to about 20 League clubs (from Arsenal to Barnet, say). Comparing that to Southampton/Hampshir
e (plus Bournemouth), the populations are 250,000 (So'ton) / 2m (Hants). Do the sums. Around a million people per club verses between quarter and half a million. Even with the skunts firmly where they are and Bournemouth/Aldersho
t being poorly supported, our population potential isn't anything like as big as the bigger 10 London clubs.
Nevertheless, as we have agreed, the board does seem to have been (how can I put it?) 'imperfect' in certain ways.Strasbourg Saint

You just can’t keep away from your trolling on here can you woolyback?
Of course on the other hand George Gillet and Tom Hicks were model owners weren’t they.
Get back under your rock, you should be more worried about how your season is going to blow-up in your face rather than ours. You had one easy season to get it right and you choked.

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I am not a troll.

George Gillet and Tom Hicks were the worst kind of owners any football club could possibly have, therefore I speak from experience .

Judging by the protests being organised against the lousy management at Saints, I would say that the emerging situation has convinced a very, very large number of fans that Saints management and owners are not fit for purpose.

As each day passes, your interpretation of the problems at Saints seems to be shared by fewer and fewer Saints fans.
If you don't start signing players soon you really will be in trouble, but of course your superb board have it all in hand and you are going to spend the whole £ 100 million + pot of cash raised by your fire sale to buy a perfect team ( if you spend £ 25 million it will be a miracle ).

Quote ...... Mush On The Beach says...
You just can’t keep away from your trolling on here can you woolyback?
Of course on the other hand George Gillet and Tom Hicks were model owners weren’t they.
Get back under your rock, you should be more worried about how your season is going to blow-up in your face rather than ours. You had one easy season to get it right and you choked.
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I am not a troll.
George Gillet and Tom Hicks were the worst kind of owners any football club could possibly have, therefore I speak from experience .
Judging by the protests being organised against the lousy management at Saints, I would say that the emerging situation has convinced a very, very large number of fans that Saints management and owners are not fit for purpose.
As each day passes, your interpretation of the problems at Saints seems to be shared by fewer and fewer Saints fans.
If you don't start signing players soon you really will be in trouble, but of course your superb board have it all in hand and you are going to spend the whole £ 100 million + pot of cash raised by your fire sale to buy a perfect team ( if you spend £ 25 million it will be a miracle ).
Wake-up before it's too late, this situation isn't a wonderful dream it's every fans nightmare.one in the crowd

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.

I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.

Jesus was back last night. He popped round. He absolutely assured me that MoPo would have signed a five year contract early this year but the club didn't offer it. The talk of 'let's wait until the end of the season' only started once they assessed the new board and wanted out. He called Ralph a liar. He said the debt was only £20m. He said the players would have stayed if MoPo had apart from Luke and possibly Adam who could have been persuaded.

It's water under the bridge now but I believe him.

Seed Do you mean when MoPo and his staff had asessed their new bosses If so it adds weight to the theory that they went because they knew the sale was coming

Yes I do. They wanted to stay and so did the players apart from Luke. Adam wanted an enhanced contract. Jesus talked a lot last night. He talked of the huge potential here with no other professional club nearby (that really made me smile). He compared it to London where there are many other clubs competing for fans.

The new directors ignored the management team and they increasingly became frustrated until deciding to leave. Krueger lied to them. Jesus was adamant that they were cashing in and the club will be sold. Even he was flabbergasted at the sale of Chambers.

He said everyone knows the club now has money and is playing hardball. He said Celtic are good at it. He scouted Wanyama and admitted the we over paid for him. He rated Forster as only a £3-4m player, said Gazza is just as good. I questioned that and he reminded me he worked with him every day in training and pointed out the weakened defence when he got to play in the first team. If they had stayed they were after Ben Foster from WBA.

I may be way wrong about you and all this may turn out to be blx and bs. However you do have the ring of truth about you and I'm prepared to accept what you've said as I have no evidence to prove otherwise.
Nothing would surprise me in the dirty business world. If the players wanted to stay they had a strange way of showing it.
Water under the bridge like you say and while I'm delighted to hear about what an expert such Jesus is saying about Saints I would be a lot happier to have been hearing it with him and all the others back here and supporting those theories than I am seeing the whole dream imploding in the way it has.
Water, bridge etc but still dismayed at the speed, finality and disregard for fans shown by all sides.
The management team is the one we're stuck with (for the time being) and I'll continue supporting them until I see otherwise (maybe foolishly - who knows for sure)
You seem to have made your decision and admittedly based on more compelling evidence than I am likely to be faced with.
I have to believe all will eventually be well mate - the way I'm made I'm afraid. Doesn't mean I won't take on board what you're saying though.
Remember next season is always going to be the best 'cos you may not be around to see the one after and we are going to have a great season seeing how all these youngsters are going to gel with what is being purchased. Thanks for that post BTW.

[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.[/p][/quote]I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.[/p][/quote]Jesus was back last night. He popped round. He absolutely assured me that MoPo would have signed a five year contract early this year but the club didn't offer it. The talk of 'let's wait until the end of the season' only started once they assessed the new board and wanted out. He called Ralph a liar. He said the debt was only £20m. He said the players would have stayed if MoPo had apart from Luke and possibly Adam who could have been persuaded.
It's water under the bridge now but I believe him.[/p][/quote]Seed Do you mean when MoPo and his staff had asessed their new bosses If so it adds weight to the theory that they went because they knew the sale was coming[/p][/quote]Yes I do. They wanted to stay and so did the players apart from Luke. Adam wanted an enhanced contract. Jesus talked a lot last night. He talked of the huge potential here with no other professional club nearby (that really made me smile). He compared it to London where there are many other clubs competing for fans.
The new directors ignored the management team and they increasingly became frustrated until deciding to leave. Krueger lied to them. Jesus was adamant that they were cashing in and the club will be sold. Even he was flabbergasted at the sale of Chambers.
He said everyone knows the club now has money and is playing hardball. He said Celtic are good at it. He scouted Wanyama and admitted the we over paid for him. He rated Forster as only a £3-4m player, said Gazza is just as good. I questioned that and he reminded me he worked with him every day in training and pointed out the weakened defence when he got to play in the first team. If they had stayed they were after Ben Foster from WBA.[/p][/quote]I may be way wrong about you and all this may turn out to be blx and bs. However you do have the ring of truth about you and I'm prepared to accept what you've said as I have no evidence to prove otherwise.
Nothing would surprise me in the dirty business world. If the players wanted to stay they had a strange way of showing it.
Water under the bridge like you say and while I'm delighted to hear about what an expert such Jesus is saying about Saints I would be a lot happier to have been hearing it with him and all the others back here and supporting those theories than I am seeing the whole dream imploding in the way it has.
Water, bridge etc but still dismayed at the speed, finality and disregard for fans shown by all sides.
The management team is the one we're stuck with (for the time being) and I'll continue supporting them until I see otherwise (maybe foolishly - who knows for sure)
You seem to have made your decision and admittedly based on more compelling evidence than I am likely to be faced with.
I have to believe all will eventually be well mate - the way I'm made I'm afraid. Doesn't mean I won't take on board what you're saying though.
Remember next season is always going to be the best 'cos you may not be around to see the one after and we are going to have a great season seeing how all these youngsters are going to gel with what is being purchased. Thanks for that post BTW.jls217

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Moving on, a few things:
1. Ralph's stand on Morgan and JayRod is what many have been calling for. Yet, this will now make it harder to convince players (Cork or new players, for example?) to sign a long-term contract. One reason for the Club to allow the others to go is to show other players that they can 'be reasonable'. Morgan must be feeling that the club has been 'unreasonable' (and inconsistent) with him.
2. This shows how hard it is for this board to get it right. Love or hate them, had they allowed (or, if they still DO allow) Morgan to leave - even for top money - many on here would have crucified them; they're damned if they do and damned if they don't
3. It's hard to see who has come out of this well; the club, the board, Morgan .... Despite the slating the board got for selling those 5 players, at least it's given Ron a decent little kitty.

1. This may be true but there is a balance between value for the club and mobility for the player. If he signs a long term contract why would he not expect to honour it, otherwise we are in court arguing 'deliberate default'.
2. True, perhaps this points to the requirement for a standard release clause - Remy for example had a release minimum price of 8.5m if a champions league club knocked on the door, but nothing for others.
3. True, given the release clause mentioned above in (2), that should no longer be an issue.
Agents and journo's both annoy me, they destabilise young players as they are just starting to establish their premier league or international career, seeking out deals that get leaked to the press as facts before any actual club to club discussion.
I do reserve my worst for the prima donna players who get turned by the possibilities and then disrespect the clubs and fans who developed them and supported them from obscurity by petulantly saying things as AL, DL and now MS have done.

[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote:
Moving on, a few things:
1. Ralph's stand on Morgan and JayRod is what many have been calling for. Yet, this will now make it harder to convince players (Cork or new players, for example?) to sign a long-term contract. One reason for the Club to allow the others to go is to show other players that they can 'be reasonable'. Morgan must be feeling that the club has been 'unreasonable' (and inconsistent) with him.
2. This shows how hard it is for this board to get it right. Love or hate them, had they allowed (or, if they still DO allow) Morgan to leave - even for top money - many on here would have crucified them; they're damned if they do and damned if they don't
3. It's hard to see who has come out of this well; the club, the board, Morgan .... Despite the slating the board got for selling those 5 players, at least it's given Ron a decent little kitty.[/p][/quote]1. This may be true but there is a balance between value for the club and mobility for the player. If he signs a long term contract why would he not expect to honour it, otherwise we are in court arguing 'deliberate default'.
2. True, perhaps this points to the requirement for a standard release clause - Remy for example had a release minimum price of 8.5m if a champions league club knocked on the door, but nothing for others.
3. True, given the release clause mentioned above in (2), that should no longer be an issue.
Agents and journo's both annoy me, they destabilise young players as they are just starting to establish their premier league or international career, seeking out deals that get leaked to the press as facts before any actual club to club discussion.
I do reserve my worst for the prima donna players who get turned by the possibilities and then disrespect the clubs and fans who developed them and supported them from obscurity by petulantly saying things as AL, DL and now MS have done.st.ranger

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Moving on, a few things:
1. Ralph's stand on Morgan and JayRod is what many have been calling for. Yet, this will now make it harder to convince players (Cork or new players, for example?) to sign a long-term contract. One reason for the Club to allow the others to go is to show other players that they can 'be reasonable'. Morgan must be feeling that the club has been 'unreasonable' (and inconsistent) with him.
2. This shows how hard it is for this board to get it right. Love or hate them, had they allowed (or, if they still DO allow) Morgan to leave - even for top money - many on here would have crucified them; they're damned if they do and damned if they don't
3. It's hard to see who has come out of this well; the club, the board, Morgan .... Despite the slating the board got for selling those 5 players, at least it's given Ron a decent little kitty.

Cork and Jose still havn't signed contract exensions. It is amajor mistake by the board to have allowed these 2 to now only have one year left, especially so in Cork's case. If they were desperate to stay wouldn't they have extended already? If Morgan thinks the club are being unreasonable then the club should be telling him that it is also unreasonable for him to leave at this present time. Surely anybody who has affection or the club can see that we can't continue to let players go in this fashion. It was AL who started all this and though he may have been with us for a long time he as been the catalyst for the destruction of our fine squad. He should be totally ashamed of himself and I can only wish him a failed career and I hope he is made very unwelcome whenever he comes back to St. Marys. If he has the bottle that is.

[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote:
Moving on, a few things:
1. Ralph's stand on Morgan and JayRod is what many have been calling for. Yet, this will now make it harder to convince players (Cork or new players, for example?) to sign a long-term contract. One reason for the Club to allow the others to go is to show other players that they can 'be reasonable'. Morgan must be feeling that the club has been 'unreasonable' (and inconsistent) with him.
2. This shows how hard it is for this board to get it right. Love or hate them, had they allowed (or, if they still DO allow) Morgan to leave - even for top money - many on here would have crucified them; they're damned if they do and damned if they don't
3. It's hard to see who has come out of this well; the club, the board, Morgan .... Despite the slating the board got for selling those 5 players, at least it's given Ron a decent little kitty.[/p][/quote]Cork and Jose still havn't signed contract exensions. It is amajor mistake by the board to have allowed these 2 to now only have one year left, especially so in Cork's case. If they were desperate to stay wouldn't they have extended already? If Morgan thinks the club are being unreasonable then the club should be telling him that it is also unreasonable for him to leave at this present time. Surely anybody who has affection or the club can see that we can't continue to let players go in this fashion. It was AL who started all this and though he may have been with us for a long time he as been the catalyst for the destruction of our fine squad. He should be totally ashamed of himself and I can only wish him a failed career and I hope he is made very unwelcome whenever he comes back to St. Marys. If he has the bottle that is.Clever Dick

It appears to me that whatever the board decides is wrong.
When the previous players were sold they were told by the fans to make them honour their contracts.
Now the fans are saying if a player does not have his heart in the club let him go.
Ye of little faith.

It appears to me that whatever the board decides is wrong.
When the previous players were sold they were told by the fans to make them honour their contracts.
Now the fans are saying if a player does not have his heart in the club let him go.
Ye of little faith.charliewayman

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.

I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.

Jesus was back last night. He popped round. He absolutely assured me that MoPo would have signed a five year contract early this year but the club didn't offer it. The talk of 'let's wait until the end of the season' only started once they assessed the new board and wanted out. He called Ralph a liar. He said the debt was only £20m. He said the players would have stayed if MoPo had apart from Luke and possibly Adam who could have been persuaded.

It's water under the bridge now but I believe him.

Seed Do you mean when MoPo and his staff had asessed their new bosses If so it adds weight to the theory that they went because they knew the sale was coming

Yes I do. They wanted to stay and so did the players apart from Luke. Adam wanted an enhanced contract. Jesus talked a lot last night. He talked of the huge potential here with no other professional club nearby (that really made me smile). He compared it to London where there are many other clubs competing for fans.

The new directors ignored the management team and they increasingly became frustrated until deciding to leave. Krueger lied to them. Jesus was adamant that they were cashing in and the club will be sold. Even he was flabbergasted at the sale of Chambers.

He said everyone knows the club now has money and is playing hardball. He said Celtic are good at it. He scouted Wanyama and admitted the we over paid for him. He rated Forster as only a £3-4m player, said Gazza is just as good. I questioned that and he reminded me he worked with him every day in training and pointed out the weakened defence when he got to play in the first team. If they had stayed they were after Ben Foster from WBA.

I may be way wrong about you and all this may turn out to be blx and bs. However you do have the ring of truth about you and I'm prepared to accept what you've said as I have no evidence to prove otherwise.
Nothing would surprise me in the dirty business world. If the players wanted to stay they had a strange way of showing it.
Water under the bridge like you say and while I'm delighted to hear about what an expert such Jesus is saying about Saints I would be a lot happier to have been hearing it with him and all the others back here and supporting those theories than I am seeing the whole dream imploding in the way it has.
Water, bridge etc but still dismayed at the speed, finality and disregard for fans shown by all sides.
The management team is the one we're stuck with (for the time being) and I'll continue supporting them until I see otherwise (maybe foolishly - who knows for sure)
You seem to have made your decision and admittedly based on more compelling evidence than I am likely to be faced with.
I have to believe all will eventually be well mate - the way I'm made I'm afraid. Doesn't mean I won't take on board what you're saying though.
Remember next season is always going to be the best 'cos you may not be around to see the one after and we are going to have a great season seeing how all these youngsters are going to gel with what is being purchased. Thanks for that post BTW.

I am not sure 'jesus' explains anything actually, its all conjecture except that we do know Luke is a silly young man and we paid too much for Victor, agreed - but we could still do with a decent reliable goalie while gazza develops. AL's disrespecful comments are still available on the Liverhampton website, Lovren simlarly declared his love of the whining scousers. Pockethemonio wouldnever have been in a position as a coach to see the full numbers for the training ground project, at best headlines and run rates, so he may not realise how you can roll up costs into capex to amortise and free up cash for opex.

[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.[/p][/quote]I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.[/p][/quote]Jesus was back last night. He popped round. He absolutely assured me that MoPo would have signed a five year contract early this year but the club didn't offer it. The talk of 'let's wait until the end of the season' only started once they assessed the new board and wanted out. He called Ralph a liar. He said the debt was only £20m. He said the players would have stayed if MoPo had apart from Luke and possibly Adam who could have been persuaded.
It's water under the bridge now but I believe him.[/p][/quote]Seed Do you mean when MoPo and his staff had asessed their new bosses If so it adds weight to the theory that they went because they knew the sale was coming[/p][/quote]Yes I do. They wanted to stay and so did the players apart from Luke. Adam wanted an enhanced contract. Jesus talked a lot last night. He talked of the huge potential here with no other professional club nearby (that really made me smile). He compared it to London where there are many other clubs competing for fans.
The new directors ignored the management team and they increasingly became frustrated until deciding to leave. Krueger lied to them. Jesus was adamant that they were cashing in and the club will be sold. Even he was flabbergasted at the sale of Chambers.
He said everyone knows the club now has money and is playing hardball. He said Celtic are good at it. He scouted Wanyama and admitted the we over paid for him. He rated Forster as only a £3-4m player, said Gazza is just as good. I questioned that and he reminded me he worked with him every day in training and pointed out the weakened defence when he got to play in the first team. If they had stayed they were after Ben Foster from WBA.[/p][/quote]I may be way wrong about you and all this may turn out to be blx and bs. However you do have the ring of truth about you and I'm prepared to accept what you've said as I have no evidence to prove otherwise.
Nothing would surprise me in the dirty business world. If the players wanted to stay they had a strange way of showing it.
Water under the bridge like you say and while I'm delighted to hear about what an expert such Jesus is saying about Saints I would be a lot happier to have been hearing it with him and all the others back here and supporting those theories than I am seeing the whole dream imploding in the way it has.
Water, bridge etc but still dismayed at the speed, finality and disregard for fans shown by all sides.
The management team is the one we're stuck with (for the time being) and I'll continue supporting them until I see otherwise (maybe foolishly - who knows for sure)
You seem to have made your decision and admittedly based on more compelling evidence than I am likely to be faced with.
I have to believe all will eventually be well mate - the way I'm made I'm afraid. Doesn't mean I won't take on board what you're saying though.
Remember next season is always going to be the best 'cos you may not be around to see the one after and we are going to have a great season seeing how all these youngsters are going to gel with what is being purchased. Thanks for that post BTW.[/p][/quote]I am not sure 'jesus' explains anything actually, its all conjecture except that we do know Luke is a silly young man and we paid too much for Victor, agreed - but we could still do with a decent reliable goalie while gazza develops. AL's disrespecful comments are still available on the Liverhampton website, Lovren simlarly declared his love of the whining scousers. Pockethemonio wouldnever have been in a position as a coach to see the full numbers for the training ground project, at best headlines and run rates, so he may not realise how you can roll up costs into capex to amortise and free up cash for opex.st.ranger

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Moving on, a few things:
1. Ralph's stand on Morgan and JayRod is what many have been calling for. Yet, this will now make it harder to convince players (Cork or new players, for example?) to sign a long-term contract. One reason for the Club to allow the others to go is to show other players that they can 'be reasonable'. Morgan must be feeling that the club has been 'unreasonable' (and inconsistent) with him.
2. This shows how hard it is for this board to get it right. Love or hate them, had they allowed (or, if they still DO allow) Morgan to leave - even for top money - many on here would have crucified them; they're damned if they do and damned if they don't
3. It's hard to see who has come out of this well; the club, the board, Morgan .... Despite the slating the board got for selling those 5 players, at least it's given Ron a decent little kitty.

Cork and Jose still havn't signed contract exensions. It is amajor mistake by the board to have allowed these 2 to now only have one year left, especially so in Cork's case. If they were desperate to stay wouldn't they have extended already? If Morgan thinks the club are being unreasonable then the club should be telling him that it is also unreasonable for him to leave at this present time. Surely anybody who has affection or the club can see that we can't continue to let players go in this fashion. It was AL who started all this and though he may have been with us for a long time he as been the catalyst for the destruction of our fine squad. He should be totally ashamed of himself and I can only wish him a failed career and I hope he is made very unwelcome whenever he comes back to St. Marys. If he has the bottle that is.

pretty good summary. If we can get a good shout for the long time ex-pompey Glen Johnson; I am sure that AL, DL and LS can get at least the same volume and we'll all give Ricky a big cheer !

[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote:
Moving on, a few things:
1. Ralph's stand on Morgan and JayRod is what many have been calling for. Yet, this will now make it harder to convince players (Cork or new players, for example?) to sign a long-term contract. One reason for the Club to allow the others to go is to show other players that they can 'be reasonable'. Morgan must be feeling that the club has been 'unreasonable' (and inconsistent) with him.
2. This shows how hard it is for this board to get it right. Love or hate them, had they allowed (or, if they still DO allow) Morgan to leave - even for top money - many on here would have crucified them; they're damned if they do and damned if they don't
3. It's hard to see who has come out of this well; the club, the board, Morgan .... Despite the slating the board got for selling those 5 players, at least it's given Ron a decent little kitty.[/p][/quote]Cork and Jose still havn't signed contract exensions. It is amajor mistake by the board to have allowed these 2 to now only have one year left, especially so in Cork's case. If they were desperate to stay wouldn't they have extended already? If Morgan thinks the club are being unreasonable then the club should be telling him that it is also unreasonable for him to leave at this present time. Surely anybody who has affection or the club can see that we can't continue to let players go in this fashion. It was AL who started all this and though he may have been with us for a long time he as been the catalyst for the destruction of our fine squad. He should be totally ashamed of himself and I can only wish him a failed career and I hope he is made very unwelcome whenever he comes back to St. Marys. If he has the bottle that is.[/p][/quote]pretty good summary. If we can get a good shout for the long time ex-pompey Glen Johnson; I am sure that AL, DL and LS can get at least the same volume and we'll all give Ricky a big cheer !st.ranger

Why the surprise and reaction? Professional footballers show no loyalty to anyone but themselves. Contracts are an absolute nonsense and worthless. @ things need to happen:- cap the salaries and limit overseas players. This will level the playing field and improve the National team. We are in a position now where the richest **** (insert whatever) can buy his plaything and money is no limit. Football clubs are nothing more than a fashion accessory to these filthy rich loafers.

Why the surprise and reaction? Professional footballers show no loyalty to anyone but themselves. Contracts are an absolute nonsense and worthless. @ things need to happen:- cap the salaries and limit overseas players. This will level the playing field and improve the National team. We are in a position now where the richest **** (insert whatever) can buy his plaything and money is no limit. Football clubs are nothing more than a fashion accessory to these filthy rich loafers.forest hump

johnlennon_ar wrote:
I heard that he was staying at a hotel and selling/giving up his apartment when he heard the news that he´s not being sold LOL

he was certainly seen at a hotel where the cricket crew were staying last night 'looking grumpy' according to Michael Vaughan

[quote][p][bold]johnlennon_ar[/bold] wrote:
I heard that he was staying at a hotel and selling/giving up his apartment when he heard the news that he´s not being sold LOL[/p][/quote]he was certainly seen at a hotel where the cricket crew were staying last night 'looking grumpy' according to Michael Vaughanst.ranger

the swinging arm of channon wrote:
Glad one of Reed, Krueger and Liebherr has spoken up, over the past week we have needed one of them to make daily statements on what is going on at the club
Fair play to Morgan, he has not thrown his toys out like Lallana and Shaw did when they couldn’t go before the World Cup, and he has not stated that his head or any other part of him is elsewhere. That said, I can understand him being well p*ssed off that even Chambers has been allowed to go but he has to stay, but then he was not going to a club who Champions League aspirations
If Jay Rod had gone I would have put a bet on that Poch would have been sacked before he played for Spurs anyway!
I see Ross Barkley has signed a new four year contract at Everton, glad that they can keep their players, why cant Saints do that?

Everton is considered to be a bigger club and has European football this year. Also, Coleman and Barkley appear to be smarter than shaw and lallana.

[quote][p][bold]the swinging arm of channon[/bold] wrote:
Glad one of Reed, Krueger and Liebherr has spoken up, over the past week we have needed one of them to make daily statements on what is going on at the club
Fair play to Morgan, he has not thrown his toys out like Lallana and Shaw did when they couldn’t go before the World Cup, and he has not stated that his head or any other part of him is elsewhere. That said, I can understand him being well p*ssed off that even Chambers has been allowed to go but he has to stay, but then he was not going to a club who Champions League aspirations
If Jay Rod had gone I would have put a bet on that Poch would have been sacked before he played for Spurs anyway!
I see Ross Barkley has signed a new four year contract at Everton, glad that they can keep their players, why cant Saints do that?[/p][/quote]Everton is considered to be a bigger club and has European football this year. Also, Coleman and Barkley appear to be smarter than shaw and lallana.Redslo

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.

I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.

Jesus was back last night. He popped round. He absolutely assured me that MoPo would have signed a five year contract early this year but the club didn't offer it. The talk of 'let's wait until the end of the season' only started once they assessed the new board and wanted out. He called Ralph a liar. He said the debt was only £20m. He said the players would have stayed if MoPo had apart from Luke and possibly Adam who could have been persuaded.

It's water under the bridge now but I believe him.

Seed Do you mean when MoPo and his staff had asessed their new bosses If so it adds weight to the theory that they went because they knew the sale was coming

Yes I do. They wanted to stay and so did the players apart from Luke. Adam wanted an enhanced contract. Jesus talked a lot last night. He talked of the huge potential here with no other professional club nearby (that really made me smile). He compared it to London where there are many other clubs competing for fans.

The new directors ignored the management team and they increasingly became frustrated until deciding to leave. Krueger lied to them. Jesus was adamant that they were cashing in and the club will be sold. Even he was flabbergasted at the sale of Chambers.

He said everyone knows the club now has money and is playing hardball. He said Celtic are good at it. He scouted Wanyama and admitted the we over paid for him. He rated Forster as only a £3-4m player, said Gazza is just as good. I questioned that and he reminded me he worked with him every day in training and pointed out the weakened defence when he got to play in the first team. If they had stayed they were after Ben Foster from WBA.

I may be way wrong about you and all this may turn out to be blx and bs. However you do have the ring of truth about you and I'm prepared to accept what you've said as I have no evidence to prove otherwise.
Nothing would surprise me in the dirty business world. If the players wanted to stay they had a strange way of showing it.
Water under the bridge like you say and while I'm delighted to hear about what an expert such Jesus is saying about Saints I would be a lot happier to have been hearing it with him and all the others back here and supporting those theories than I am seeing the whole dream imploding in the way it has.
Water, bridge etc but still dismayed at the speed, finality and disregard for fans shown by all sides.
The management team is the one we're stuck with (for the time being) and I'll continue supporting them until I see otherwise (maybe foolishly - who knows for sure)
You seem to have made your decision and admittedly based on more compelling evidence than I am likely to be faced with.
I have to believe all will eventually be well mate - the way I'm made I'm afraid. Doesn't mean I won't take on board what you're saying though.
Remember next season is always going to be the best 'cos you may not be around to see the one after and we are going to have a great season seeing how all these youngsters are going to gel with what is being purchased. Thanks for that post BTW.

I'm merely paraphrasing his words I'm not putting any personal slant on them. It will have been the last conversation as the removal vans are there right now.

[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.[/p][/quote]I do but you make your own mind up.
It wasn't a case of NC and Pinchatinny not wanting to be a part of it as what NC was wanting and couldn't get his own way.
You have a rather strange way of looking at the situation.[/p][/quote]Jesus was back last night. He popped round. He absolutely assured me that MoPo would have signed a five year contract early this year but the club didn't offer it. The talk of 'let's wait until the end of the season' only started once they assessed the new board and wanted out. He called Ralph a liar. He said the debt was only £20m. He said the players would have stayed if MoPo had apart from Luke and possibly Adam who could have been persuaded.
It's water under the bridge now but I believe him.[/p][/quote]Seed Do you mean when MoPo and his staff had asessed their new bosses If so it adds weight to the theory that they went because they knew the sale was coming[/p][/quote]Yes I do. They wanted to stay and so did the players apart from Luke. Adam wanted an enhanced contract. Jesus talked a lot last night. He talked of the huge potential here with no other professional club nearby (that really made me smile). He compared it to London where there are many other clubs competing for fans.
The new directors ignored the management team and they increasingly became frustrated until deciding to leave. Krueger lied to them. Jesus was adamant that they were cashing in and the club will be sold. Even he was flabbergasted at the sale of Chambers.
He said everyone knows the club now has money and is playing hardball. He said Celtic are good at it. He scouted Wanyama and admitted the we over paid for him. He rated Forster as only a £3-4m player, said Gazza is just as good. I questioned that and he reminded me he worked with him every day in training and pointed out the weakened defence when he got to play in the first team. If they had stayed they were after Ben Foster from WBA.[/p][/quote]I may be way wrong about you and all this may turn out to be blx and bs. However you do have the ring of truth about you and I'm prepared to accept what you've said as I have no evidence to prove otherwise.
Nothing would surprise me in the dirty business world. If the players wanted to stay they had a strange way of showing it.
Water under the bridge like you say and while I'm delighted to hear about what an expert such Jesus is saying about Saints I would be a lot happier to have been hearing it with him and all the others back here and supporting those theories than I am seeing the whole dream imploding in the way it has.
Water, bridge etc but still dismayed at the speed, finality and disregard for fans shown by all sides.
The management team is the one we're stuck with (for the time being) and I'll continue supporting them until I see otherwise (maybe foolishly - who knows for sure)
You seem to have made your decision and admittedly based on more compelling evidence than I am likely to be faced with.
I have to believe all will eventually be well mate - the way I'm made I'm afraid. Doesn't mean I won't take on board what you're saying though.
Remember next season is always going to be the best 'cos you may not be around to see the one after and we are going to have a great season seeing how all these youngsters are going to gel with what is being purchased. Thanks for that post BTW.[/p][/quote]I'm merely paraphrasing his words I'm not putting any personal slant on them. It will have been the last conversation as the removal vans are there right now.Seedhouse the Unrepentant

warrens 76 wrote:
I consider June 2014 the month ambition died at SFC..

We have gone from a team people would queue up to play for created legions of admirers and were 50 million away from the elite…

Had this money to come from impoverished owners, a club hugely in debt or as with Leeeds a massive gamble on going all the way or going bust I could understand the reluctance to pursue the plan..

Yet this is not the case, the 50 million 'gamble' is a portion only of the huge Return on investment Katerina has reaped from her father and NC's vision.

Not only have the board clearly not impressed ANY of the players, what motivational speaking course in hell did Ralph go on, but everyone from here to Timbuktu knows we have no ambition, we have basically said do not expect us to push on ang get you European football at this club, no sir, you want that you had best move on, so, other than a few academy kids who with ambiion other than mercenaties worse than we had is coming??

RIP ambition 2014..a sad day for all.

You got a lot of thumbs down for that Warrens..don't know why,cos you're absolutely right.

[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote:
I consider June 2014 the month ambition died at SFC..
We have gone from a team people would queue up to play for created legions of admirers and were 50 million away from the elite…
Had this money to come from impoverished owners, a club hugely in debt or as with Leeeds a massive gamble on going all the way or going bust I could understand the reluctance to pursue the plan..
Yet this is not the case, the 50 million 'gamble' is a portion only of the huge Return on investment Katerina has reaped from her father and NC's vision.
Not only have the board clearly not impressed ANY of the players, what motivational speaking course in hell did Ralph go on, but everyone from here to Timbuktu knows we have no ambition, we have basically said do not expect us to push on ang get you European football at this club, no sir, you want that you had best move on, so, other than a few academy kids who with ambiion other than mercenaties worse than we had is coming??
RIP ambition 2014..a sad day for all.[/p][/quote]You got a lot of thumbs down for that Warrens..don't know why,cos you're absolutely right.Positively4thStreet

killared wrote:
People on here are quick to judge Morgan who serve Saints for 6 years from bad to good time !. Shaw, Lallana, Chambers and Lovren are all gone and the club decide to take the money so why not with Morgan ? The kid had two great season in top flight unlike Shaw, Chambers, Lovren and Lallana who only had a good season . Between them lot he deserve to go if you ask me now the twitter message was very wrong and he should be punish for that if he stay . We should sale him he had no intention to stay with us and might not perform for the club and he's value will drop. The asking price for Morgan is way to high so this might put off buyer like Arsenal and Spurs. I think we should take the money in this story I really feel for the young players they see establish player go or wanted to go tough time in the South Oh well at least is sunny.

I think the problem is that the asking price for MS is not too high but because he does not score lots of goals and is not English (although he does count as homegrown for roster purposes) it seems too high. Yet, other than SRL, he has clearly been our best player in the premier league and the one who would be hardest to replace. No one of his calibre will sign for us at a salary we can afford or for a transfer fee comparable to what we can get for him. Quite possibly no one of his calibre will sign for us period.

[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote:
People on here are quick to judge Morgan who serve Saints for 6 years from bad to good time !. Shaw, Lallana, Chambers and Lovren are all gone and the club decide to take the money so why not with Morgan ? The kid had two great season in top flight unlike Shaw, Chambers, Lovren and Lallana who only had a good season . Between them lot he deserve to go if you ask me now the twitter message was very wrong and he should be punish for that if he stay . We should sale him he had no intention to stay with us and might not perform for the club and he's value will drop. The asking price for Morgan is way to high so this might put off buyer like Arsenal and Spurs. I think we should take the money in this story I really feel for the young players they see establish player go or wanted to go tough time in the South Oh well at least is sunny.[/p][/quote]I think the problem is that the asking price for MS is not too high but because he does not score lots of goals and is not English (although he does count as homegrown for roster purposes) it seems too high. Yet, other than SRL, he has clearly been our best player in the premier league and the one who would be hardest to replace. No one of his calibre will sign for us at a salary we can afford or for a transfer fee comparable to what we can get for him. Quite possibly no one of his calibre will sign for us period.Redslo

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?

More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.

Sadly,no one knew what the truth was at that time,so they just got accused of disloyalty,when in truth,they were just walking away from something that for ambitious people,there was no longer any point in participating in.

[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote:
If Ralph feels its possible to say 'you're under contract son and you're not going anywhere' then why didn't he do it before?[/p][/quote]More and more I am coming to believe that Cotese and MoPo went because they would not be part of whats gone on here We all heard the Kreuger statement but do we believe it.[/p][/quote]Sadly,no one knew what the truth was at that time,so they just got accused of disloyalty,when in truth,they were just walking away from something that for ambitious people,there was no longer any point in participating in.Positively4thStreet

Alicesdad wrote:
The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.

None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.

Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.

Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!

I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.

Money would be enough for me if I was a young talented footballer. Football is a very short career. I'd leave every time if I could double or treble my income. There is a point in life where loyalty meets foolishness. We will be happy to discard players when it suits us. We won't be paying them pensions and finding them jobs for the rest of their lives

You have to take care of yourself In football no one's going to do it for you. Everybody in football is a gypsy, except the fans. Who sadly suffer as the guns for hire move on to the next big showdown.

[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote:
The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.
None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.
Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.
Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!
I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.[/p][/quote]Money would be enough for me if I was a young talented footballer. Football is a very short career. I'd leave every time if I could double or treble my income. There is a point in life where loyalty meets foolishness. We will be happy to discard players when it suits us. We won't be paying them pensions and finding them jobs for the rest of their lives
You have to take care of yourself In football no one's going to do it for you. Everybody in football is a gypsy, except the fans. Who sadly suffer as the guns for hire move on to the next big showdown.george chivers

You just can’t keep away from your trolling on here can you woolyback?
Of course on the other hand George Gillet and Tom Hicks were model owners weren’t they.
Get back under your rock, you should be more worried about how your season is going to blow-up in your face rather than ours. You had one easy season to get it right and you choked.

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I am not a troll.

George Gillet and Tom Hicks were the worst kind of owners any football club could possibly have, therefore I speak from experience .

Judging by the protests being organised against the lousy management at Saints, I would say that the emerging situation has convinced a very, very large number of fans that Saints management and owners are not fit for purpose.

As each day passes, your interpretation of the problems at Saints seems to be shared by fewer and fewer Saints fans.
If you don't start signing players soon you really will be in trouble, but of course your superb board have it all in hand and you are going to spend the whole £ 100 million + pot of cash raised by your fire sale to buy a perfect team ( if you spend £ 25 million it will be a miracle ).

Why are you on here? It's not your team. We're not your mates. Those who know of you better than I don't seem to like or respect you and your mere prescence is resented. So why stay?
You are either the same person using about four different logs ins as you seem to be spouting the same spurious nonsense they are, you may be a sad lonely troll looking for some reaction to your posts - which, fair play, you have been minimally successful at, you could be a social misfit trying to fit in somewhere, anywhere as long as they acknowledge you or you are a truly altruistic Gandhi type individual who exudes love and understand to the peoples of the world and through the goodness of your heart is attempting to prevent us poor country yokels from being exploited by those nasty corporate vultures. As Gandhi was by and large a fraud that rules out the last one so it leaves you a couple of unattractive options really. So which is it?
I plump for sad lonely Troll but you might choose social misfit - some people far less kind than this humble poster may say it's one and the same but I'll leave you with part of you dignity intact and just go for the
one flaw rather than the complete personality disorder.
You might want to seek further advice though and there are a great many on here willing to give you some if you hang around long enough.
My best wishes to you and your family even though they may eventually disown you.

[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote:
Quote ...... Mush On The Beach says...
You just can’t keep away from your trolling on here can you woolyback?
Of course on the other hand George Gillet and Tom Hicks were model owners weren’t they.
Get back under your rock, you should be more worried about how your season is going to blow-up in your face rather than ours. You had one easy season to get it right and you choked.
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I am not a troll.
George Gillet and Tom Hicks were the worst kind of owners any football club could possibly have, therefore I speak from experience .
Judging by the protests being organised against the lousy management at Saints, I would say that the emerging situation has convinced a very, very large number of fans that Saints management and owners are not fit for purpose.
As each day passes, your interpretation of the problems at Saints seems to be shared by fewer and fewer Saints fans.
If you don't start signing players soon you really will be in trouble, but of course your superb board have it all in hand and you are going to spend the whole £ 100 million + pot of cash raised by your fire sale to buy a perfect team ( if you spend £ 25 million it will be a miracle ).
Wake-up before it's too late, this situation isn't a wonderful dream it's every fans nightmare.[/p][/quote]Why are you on here? It's not your team. We're not your mates. Those who know of you better than I don't seem to like or respect you and your mere prescence is resented. So why stay?
You are either the same person using about four different logs ins as you seem to be spouting the same spurious nonsense they are, you may be a sad lonely troll looking for some reaction to your posts - which, fair play, you have been minimally successful at, you could be a social misfit trying to fit in somewhere, anywhere as long as they acknowledge you or you are a truly altruistic Gandhi type individual who exudes love and understand to the peoples of the world and through the goodness of your heart is attempting to prevent us poor country yokels from being exploited by those nasty corporate vultures. As Gandhi was by and large a fraud that rules out the last one so it leaves you a couple of unattractive options really. So which is it?
I plump for sad lonely Troll but you might choose social misfit - some people far less kind than this humble poster may say it's one and the same but I'll leave you with part of you dignity intact and just go for the
one flaw rather than the complete personality disorder.
You might want to seek further advice though and there are a great many on here willing to give you some if you hang around long enough.
My best wishes to you and your family even though they may eventually disown you.jls217

Alicesdad wrote:
The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.

None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.

Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.

Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!

I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.

Money would be enough for me if I was a young talented footballer. Football is a very short career. I'd leave every time if I could double or treble my income. There is a point in life where loyalty meets foolishness. We will be happy to discard players when it suits us. We won't be paying them pensions and finding them jobs for the rest of their lives

You have to take care of yourself In football no one's going to do it for you. Everybody in football is a gypsy, except the fans. Who sadly suffer as the guns for hire move on to the next big showdown.

Oh George, you paint such a dismal picture. Unfortunately most of us in our hearts know you're right. Just off to kick the cat again.

[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote:
The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.
None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.
Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.
Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!
I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.[/p][/quote]Money would be enough for me if I was a young talented footballer. Football is a very short career. I'd leave every time if I could double or treble my income. There is a point in life where loyalty meets foolishness. We will be happy to discard players when it suits us. We won't be paying them pensions and finding them jobs for the rest of their lives
You have to take care of yourself In football no one's going to do it for you. Everybody in football is a gypsy, except the fans. Who sadly suffer as the guns for hire move on to the next big showdown.[/p][/quote]Oh George, you paint such a dismal picture. Unfortunately most of us in our hearts know you're right. Just off to kick the cat again.jls217

warrens 76 wrote:
I consider June 2014 the month ambition died at SFC..

We have gone from a team people would queue up to play for created legions of admirers and were 50 million away from the elite…

Had this money to come from impoverished owners, a club hugely in debt or as with Leeeds a massive gamble on going all the way or going bust I could understand the reluctance to pursue the plan..

Yet this is not the case, the 50 million 'gamble' is a portion only of the huge Return on investment Katerina has reaped from her father and NC's vision.

Not only have the board clearly not impressed ANY of the players, what motivational speaking course in hell did Ralph go on, but everyone from here to Timbuktu knows we have no ambition, we have basically said do not expect us to push on ang get you European football at this club, no sir, you want that you had best move on, so, other than a few academy kids who with ambiion other than mercenaties worse than we had is coming??

RIP ambition 2014..a sad day for all.

Unfortunately approx 14/15 other clubs in the PL are having to view it the same way too. The odds are stacked against us firmly by the cartel at the top. Fair play as back fired in a way only they would have been able to see as they were the ones influencing the decision makers. I think you'll find once you've finished you wailing and whining that the thing we really don't have and is really hindering us is a 70k stadium and the bums to fill the seats. We are not the marketable commodity that Manure is for example.
The only thing that was going to impress those who left was 75k plus a year.Even Chelsea couldn't afford to pay Shaw what he was demanding - so get real.
The club is, now, we are rid of the **** or bust attitude of NC being run as a business should be. One eye on balancing the books and the other on an opportunity. It's being built from the ground up and striving not to be caught up in the bubble which so many others are buying into.
If risks are to be taken they must be correctly assessed risks and not of the 50/50 kind.
I want to hear if the rumour about setting up an academy in the USA is correct. Now that is risk which is minimal and would pay huge dividends as interest in the game over there grows. They take their sport very seriously and won't stop until they are mixing it with the big boys - we can have a hand in supplying the talent for that and the rewards could be enormous.
How's that for ambition?
But you do like a moan don't you Warren?

A great post. I'm glad some of us see things as they really are. As I think the club did last season when it chose not to select it's best team for the F.A. because it didn't want to qualify for the Europa League and perhaps because it knew what would happen in the summer.

A 32,000 capacity stadium does not = Champions League football. It never has done and never will in this country. The Premier League within the Premier League control that opportunity.

[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote:
I consider June 2014 the month ambition died at SFC..
We have gone from a team people would queue up to play for created legions of admirers and were 50 million away from the elite…
Had this money to come from impoverished owners, a club hugely in debt or as with Leeeds a massive gamble on going all the way or going bust I could understand the reluctance to pursue the plan..
Yet this is not the case, the 50 million 'gamble' is a portion only of the huge Return on investment Katerina has reaped from her father and NC's vision.
Not only have the board clearly not impressed ANY of the players, what motivational speaking course in hell did Ralph go on, but everyone from here to Timbuktu knows we have no ambition, we have basically said do not expect us to push on ang get you European football at this club, no sir, you want that you had best move on, so, other than a few academy kids who with ambiion other than mercenaties worse than we had is coming??
RIP ambition 2014..a sad day for all.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately approx 14/15 other clubs in the PL are having to view it the same way too. The odds are stacked against us firmly by the cartel at the top. Fair play as back fired in a way only they would have been able to see as they were the ones influencing the decision makers. I think you'll find once you've finished you wailing and whining that the thing we really don't have and is really hindering us is a 70k stadium and the bums to fill the seats. We are not the marketable commodity that Manure is for example.
The only thing that was going to impress those who left was 75k plus a year.Even Chelsea couldn't afford to pay Shaw what he was demanding - so get real.
The club is, now, we are rid of the **** or bust attitude of NC being run as a business should be. One eye on balancing the books and the other on an opportunity. It's being built from the ground up and striving not to be caught up in the bubble which so many others are buying into.
If risks are to be taken they must be correctly assessed risks and not of the 50/50 kind.
I want to hear if the rumour about setting up an academy in the USA is correct. Now that is risk which is minimal and would pay huge dividends as interest in the game over there grows. They take their sport very seriously and won't stop until they are mixing it with the big boys - we can have a hand in supplying the talent for that and the rewards could be enormous.
How's that for ambition?
But you do like a moan don't you Warren?[/p][/quote]A great post. I'm glad some of us see things as they really are. As I think the club did last season when it chose not to select it's best team for the F.A. because it didn't want to qualify for the Europa League and perhaps because it knew what would happen in the summer.
A 32,000 capacity stadium does not = Champions League football. It never has done and never will in this country. The Premier League within the Premier League control that opportunity.george chivers

Alicesdad wrote:
The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.

None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.

Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.

Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!

I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.

Money would be enough for me if I was a young talented footballer. Football is a very short career. I'd leave every time if I could double or treble my income. There is a point in life where loyalty meets foolishness. We will be happy to discard players when it suits us. We won't be paying them pensions and finding them jobs for the rest of their lives

You have to take care of yourself In football no one's going to do it for you. Everybody in football is a gypsy, except the fans. Who sadly suffer as the guns for hire move on to the next big showdown.

Same with young talented troubadours, never mind what the fans think..go electric!

[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote:
The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.
None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.
Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.
Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!
I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.[/p][/quote]Money would be enough for me if I was a young talented footballer. Football is a very short career. I'd leave every time if I could double or treble my income. There is a point in life where loyalty meets foolishness. We will be happy to discard players when it suits us. We won't be paying them pensions and finding them jobs for the rest of their lives
You have to take care of yourself In football no one's going to do it for you. Everybody in football is a gypsy, except the fans. Who sadly suffer as the guns for hire move on to the next big showdown.[/p][/quote]Same with young talented troubadours, never mind what the fans think..go electric!Positively4thStreet

Alicesdad wrote:
The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.

None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.

Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.

Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!

I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.

Money would be enough for me if I was a young talented footballer. Football is a very short career. I'd leave every time if I could double or treble my income. There is a point in life where loyalty meets foolishness. We will be happy to discard players when it suits us. We won't be paying them pensions and finding them jobs for the rest of their lives

You have to take care of yourself In football no one's going to do it for you. Everybody in football is a gypsy, except the fans. Who sadly suffer as the guns for hire move on to the next big showdown.

Oh George, you paint such a dismal picture. Unfortunately most of us in our hearts know you're right. Just off to kick the cat again.

Give my apologies to your cat!

[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote:
The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.
None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.
Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.
Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!
I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.[/p][/quote]Money would be enough for me if I was a young talented footballer. Football is a very short career. I'd leave every time if I could double or treble my income. There is a point in life where loyalty meets foolishness. We will be happy to discard players when it suits us. We won't be paying them pensions and finding them jobs for the rest of their lives
You have to take care of yourself In football no one's going to do it for you. Everybody in football is a gypsy, except the fans. Who sadly suffer as the guns for hire move on to the next big showdown.[/p][/quote]Oh George, you paint such a dismal picture. Unfortunately most of us in our hearts know you're right. Just off to kick the cat again.[/p][/quote]Give my apologies to your cat!george chivers

Alicesdad wrote:
The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.

None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.

Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.

Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!

I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.

Money would be enough for me if I was a young talented footballer. Football is a very short career. I'd leave every time if I could double or treble my income. There is a point in life where loyalty meets foolishness. We will be happy to discard players when it suits us. We won't be paying them pensions and finding them jobs for the rest of their lives

You have to take care of yourself In football no one's going to do it for you. Everybody in football is a gypsy, except the fans. Who sadly suffer as the guns for hire move on to the next big showdown.

Same with young talented troubadours, never mind what the fans think..go electric!

'Just do what you have to do.
Then some day maybe
Who knows baby
I'll come and be crying to you.'

[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote:
The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.
None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.
Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.
Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!
I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.[/p][/quote]Money would be enough for me if I was a young talented footballer. Football is a very short career. I'd leave every time if I could double or treble my income. There is a point in life where loyalty meets foolishness. We will be happy to discard players when it suits us. We won't be paying them pensions and finding them jobs for the rest of their lives
You have to take care of yourself In football no one's going to do it for you. Everybody in football is a gypsy, except the fans. Who sadly suffer as the guns for hire move on to the next big showdown.[/p][/quote]Same with young talented troubadours, never mind what the fans think..go electric![/p][/quote]Did Pete Seeger really try to cut Bob's cable at the Newport Folk Festival?
'Just do what you have to do.
Then some day maybe
Who knows baby
I'll come and be crying to you.'george chivers

Alicesdad wrote:
The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.

None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.

Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.

Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!

I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.

Money would be enough for me if I was a young talented footballer. Football is a very short career. I'd leave every time if I could double or treble my income. There is a point in life where loyalty meets foolishness. We will be happy to discard players when it suits us. We won't be paying them pensions and finding them jobs for the rest of their lives

You have to take care of yourself In football no one's going to do it for you. Everybody in football is a gypsy, except the fans. Who sadly suffer as the guns for hire move on to the next big showdown.

Oh George, you paint such a dismal picture. Unfortunately most of us in our hearts know you're right. Just off to kick the cat again.

Give my apologies to your cat!

Cat's in the well.

[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote:
The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.
None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.
Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.
Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!
I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.[/p][/quote]Money would be enough for me if I was a young talented footballer. Football is a very short career. I'd leave every time if I could double or treble my income. There is a point in life where loyalty meets foolishness. We will be happy to discard players when it suits us. We won't be paying them pensions and finding them jobs for the rest of their lives
You have to take care of yourself In football no one's going to do it for you. Everybody in football is a gypsy, except the fans. Who sadly suffer as the guns for hire move on to the next big showdown.[/p][/quote]Oh George, you paint such a dismal picture. Unfortunately most of us in our hearts know you're right. Just off to kick the cat again.[/p][/quote]Give my apologies to your cat![/p][/quote]Cat's in the well.Positively4thStreet

Alicesdad wrote:
The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.

None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.

Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.

Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!

I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.

Money would be enough for me if I was a young talented footballer. Football is a very short career. I'd leave every time if I could double or treble my income. There is a point in life where loyalty meets foolishness. We will be happy to discard players when it suits us. We won't be paying them pensions and finding them jobs for the rest of their lives

You have to take care of yourself In football no one's going to do it for you. Everybody in football is a gypsy, except the fans. Who sadly suffer as the guns for hire move on to the next big showdown.

Same with young talented troubadours, never mind what the fans think..go electric!

'Just do what you have to do.
Then some day maybe
Who knows baby
I'll come and be crying to you.'

Apparently so,he was probably just after a quick perm,to look like Bob.
I never ever heard him say anything complimentary about him either.

[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote:
The oft quoted view that if they dont want to be here they should go is deeply unsound. Ron should not say such things either as it only encourages them.
None of these players have been mistreated, abused, exploited, cheated or suffer from anything other than greed and perhaps harrassment from agents. It's the act of a spoilt child to throw tantrums. It seems the adult version seems to be to use twatter these days.
Puncheon learned his lesson and went on to do well. So will Schneiderlin .. and I hope we dont hear any snivelling from J-Rod either.
Just remember sonny boy , you are already at a Premier League Club that has seen you through lower leagues right up to a World Cup place. Show some gratitude you overpaid gallic git !!
I throw these sentiments out to all of the players that have left. With the possible exception of Shaw I doubt any of them will ever win a trophy at another club and apart from the shedloads of money they earn there will be no other benefits from leaving this club.[/p][/quote]Money would be enough for me if I was a young talented footballer. Football is a very short career. I'd leave every time if I could double or treble my income. There is a point in life where loyalty meets foolishness. We will be happy to discard players when it suits us. We won't be paying them pensions and finding them jobs for the rest of their lives
You have to take care of yourself In football no one's going to do it for you. Everybody in football is a gypsy, except the fans. Who sadly suffer as the guns for hire move on to the next big showdown.[/p][/quote]Same with young talented troubadours, never mind what the fans think..go electric![/p][/quote]Did Pete Seeger really try to cut Bob's cable at the Newport Folk Festival?
'Just do what you have to do.
Then some day maybe
Who knows baby
I'll come and be crying to you.'[/p][/quote]Apparently so,he was probably just after a quick perm,to look like Bob.
I never ever heard him say anything complimentary about him either.Positively4thStreet

saint christopher wrote:
For all those berating the club for a wasted opportunity of breaking into the top 6 and for generating the firestorm that we've experienced over the past few weeks - get real.

Yes we all bought into Cortese's dream but that is all it was. We are now in the hands of professional business people who want success because that means money but who want to achieve it by steady sustainable development.

The players who were only here for the money and who couldn't resist the allure of supposed greener grass elsewhere have jumped ship and shown their true colours (Rickie excepted). Morgan may follow.

It's been tough but in reality that myth needed exposing and a new era commenced, one that even more than before will show one and all how a PL club should be run and success obtained. That is what is now nearing completion, and provided we can survive the first couple of months and get some momentum I believe that our trajectory will continue to be upwards - not just this season but for those to come. It may be at a slightly less exciting gradient but it will be sustainable, and I for one will be content with that.

You make it sound like we had assembled an expensive collection of mercenaries from all over the globe. The truth is somewhat different to that. The team that finished eighth was made up of academy players, all of whom were here prior to Cortese's arrival, and some cheap buys from the lower leagues and Lovren.