I finally realized after listening to so many different headphones, $100 pairs to $5000 i still realized that, i still love my sennheiser hd650s. i have never heard another headphone that can produce detailed but heavy bass like the sennheiser hd650s. Even though the sound is a little laid back, i still love them. i tried the grado sr325is and i just didnt like the sound, it was sort of muffled, there was (to me) hardly any detail. all i have to say is I LOVE MY 650s! No one can take them away from me!

Sup guys, I have to pick some headphones for my birthday ranging from $60-80 and they have to be from best buy. My problem is I don't know which ones are better, the 439hd Sennheisers or the 429hd Sennheisers. You'd be helpin me out a lot if you can tell me which ones better by today. Gotta order 'em by Monday and Ima have to use me for at least 5 years. I'm gonna buy them off of Best buy, they're both $79.99.

Sup guys, I have to pick some headphones for my birthday ranging from $60-80 and they have to be from best buy. My problem is I don't know which ones are better, the 439hd Sennheisers or the 429hd Sennheisers. You'd be helpin me out a lot if you can tell me which ones better by today. Gotta order 'em by Monday and Ima have to use me for at least 5 years. I'm gonna buy them off of Best buy, they're both $79.99.

Volume matched, you will hear more detail and clarity out of a properly amped HD650 at any volume, even low ones.

People used to think I was crazy because I listened to my HD650 at pretty high volumes. I would unconsciously turn up the volume because it didn't sound 'right' unless I did. After getting a proper amp, I find myself listening at much lower volumes and not finding the need to turn the volume up for it to sound 'right'.

Swmtnbiker, if you are to scale the musical quality of the crack + hd650 as perfect 10, what will be the scale number for lyr + hd650?

Hmmm, interesting question. For what it's worth, I'd say that if I rated the Crack + Speedball a perfect 10 with the HD 650 then I'd have to put the Lyr at about a 7, with both amps running the best tubes I've heard in each.

Volume matched, you will hear more detail and clarity out of a properly amped HD650 at any volume, even low ones.

People used to think I was crazy because I listened to my HD650 at pretty high volumes. I would unconsciously turn up the volume because it didn't sound 'right' unless I did. After getting a proper amp, I find myself listening at much lower volumes and not finding the need to turn the volume up for it to sound 'right'.

I would, tho I would also say that they don't rip your head off with treble. If others see that as veil, then I suppose they are veiled. I just see them as wonderfully presented. However, I also listen to little else other than classical so I can see horses for courses at work too.