I would like to employ the tools exemplified in the Satanic Witch. I have the read the first part, and LaVey says that unless you are so ugly that people stare at you, you are able to be extremely sexy. I find this hard to believe. For one thing, I'm bisexual and am rarely attractive to fat women. I'm not fat myself but feel like I need to lose about 15 pounds in order to be seductive, especially if I want to appeal to white men. And I'm by nature introverted, analytical, and possibly boring in certain contexts. I feel this seductive ability is something some women are just naturally good at.

I need to lose about 15 pounds in order to be seductive, especially if I want to appeal to white men

Maybe city boys. I don't understand them. Find yourself a nice small town fella. They like a little pudding under the skin, I promise.

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And I'm by nature introverted, analytical, and possibly boring in certain contexts.

What kind of man are you trying to attract?

Maybe you can get a sexy librarian thing going on. Get a well-starched white blouse and a tan sweater vest that fits your figure, get a pair of thick-framed glasses, wear muted colors for your make-up, go where the nerdy boys hang out, and see what happens.

I totally agree with what Eve has said and plan to read The Satanic Witch as soon as I finish reading The Satanic Bible. I'm new around here and not in much of a position to offer advice.

Our dance background is somewhat similar. I teach exotic dance classes and occasionally perform in the clubs. Whether you are clothed or not you should be able to stop a man cold in his tracks with a look or a smile. I assume that a certain amount of this ability is innate, considering we're born Satanists. In my experience, a man will choose a confident alpha-female type over a more attractive insecure woman (but then again each man has a different definition of "attractive"). Maybe by being introverted you come off as insecure or unapproachable? I don't know you so, I really have no clue. Hopefully you find the answers you're looking for in The Satanic Witch.

HS!

P.S. Many white men love my J.Lo booty.

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"The truth is I've never fooled anyone. I've let people fool themselves. They didn't bother to find out who and what I was. Instead they would invent a character for me. I wouldn't argue with them." - Marilyn Monroe

I would like to employ the tools exemplified in the Satanic Witch. I have the read the first part, and LaVey says that unless you are so ugly that people stare at you, you are able to be extremely sexy. I find this hard to believe. For one thing, I'm bisexual and am rarely attractive to fat women. I'm not fat myself but feel like I need to lose about 15 pounds in order to be seductive, especially if I want to appeal to white men. And I'm by nature introverted, analytical, and possibly boring in certain contexts. I feel this seductive ability is something some women are just naturally good at.

No woman but my partner sees my face during these adventures. Before knowing her, the women I mated with never saw my face.

I have never had a problem being sexy.

Lavey is not only right...but almost always right.

Eh...it was late and I threw in my thoughts.

Edited by Fagneto (12/01/0703:23 AM)Edit Reason: Power is attractive.

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I would like to employ the tools exemplified in the Satanic Witch. I have the read the first part, and LaVey says that unless you are so ugly that people stare at you, you are able to be extremely sexy. I find this hard to believe. For one thing, I'm bisexual and am rarely attractive to fat women. I'm not fat myself but feel like I need to lose about 15 pounds in order to be seductive, especially if I want to appeal to white men. And I'm by nature introverted, analytical, and possibly boring in certain contexts. I feel this seductive ability is something some women are just naturally good at.

I've been asked by a friend to advise you to check your Private Messages. You can do that from the "My Stuff" menu at the top of the screen, or the flashing mail icon that should be beside it if you haven't checked it recently.

(from a book I read about beauty: )"If every woman in America woke up tomorrow and decided she is beautiful as she is, the world's economy would collapse overnight".

Something to think about when you consume beauty products, buy dietetic foods and subscribe to the gym.

It's all a bullshit delusion made to demoralize you into slavery.

I'll just say this: if you are fatter than it is natural for you to be because you eat more than you really need to (because of stress, for example)- just knock it off. Listen to your body. Go for a walk, do some yoga- and you'll soon be in proper shape without having to fight it. That's all, really.

I'm not a big-breasted-tiny-assed-skinny blond, I don't even have the fat lips, baby nose or blue eyes that you find in your average porn star. Yet I never had a problem getting what I want out of men (well, I did once—turns out he was gay =P) or women (well, I did once- but turns out she was straight =P)[all of them were white, by the way].

Every woman who has motivation (and a reasonable level of IQ) can make great progress with her seductive skills. Yes, some women are a natural, but it's a skill you can develop- like all other skills.

The real power lays in evoking the powerful archetypes buried in people's sensation-thirsty psyches. Just tap into the archetype that fits you best and Razzle Dazzle them.

P.SI would highly recommend for farther reading Robert Greene's book "The Art of Seduction". It's very helpful.

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Something to think about when you consume beauty products, buy dietetic foods and subscribe to the gym.

It's all a bullshit delusion made to demoralize you into slavery.

This can be true, unless you simply derive satisfaction from such things.

I'm a beauty product junkie, keep a strict diet (with a limited sugar, starch and fat intake) and go to the gym every day. I do it because it makes me physically and mentally feel good, not because I'm demoralized into slavery, am insecure, or feel like I need to do such things to get a man or woman.

As far as the rest of your post, I agree with what you are stating. Women come in all shapes and sizes, and that is how it should be. Almost any woman can be sexy and appealing, but she'll be hard pressed for someone to find her attractive if she doesn't see it in herself, know her power and strong points, and use them.

Confidence and intelligence are the best weapons in a woman's arsenal.

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"Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't." - Margaret Thatcher

I go to the gym and buy myself girly things too.I was merely suggesting one should first stop and think WHY she's doing it. If it's really just for yourself, so great!But often it comes from a place of deep dissatisfaction, planted there by the ones in power who have an interest to make you think you're fat and ugly.

I've been asked by a friend to advise you to check your Private Messages. You can do that from the "My Stuff" menu at the top of the screen, or the flashing mail icon that should be beside it if you haven't checked it recently.

The first thing you need to do is to establish what you want, which is to say, figuring out what type of people you're interested in attracting.

Then, you need to scale that desire with realistic expectations of success. Being honest with yourself is important. But by that same measure, imposing self-defeating limitations on yourself by resorting to regurgitated norms of beauty isn't the proper way to go about it.

Once you do those two things, it's just a matter of confidently pursuing those goals by using your natural womanly charms. Personally, I find confidence in women to be extremely attractive.

A major stumbling block that some people can't seem to get past is the idea that they need to be proactive in their pursuits.

Interacting with the demographic that you wish to seduce will greatly increase the chances of success.

Interacting with the demographic that you wish to seduce will greatly increase the chances of success.

That's the one that I need help with. Anyone know where all those smart well dressed lumberjacks who aren't intimidated by a woman with a perverted mind like a 10 year old boy trapped in the body of a voluptuous amazon goddess tend to hang out on a Saturday night?

To Miss Cop: I was slightly skeptical of The Satanic witch at first. But figuring out what works best for you tends to attract people in and of itself. They see your comfortability in your own skin. And it's hot.

I was already pretty good at maximizing my assets, but that book helped in the seduction aspect.

Also, it was refreshing to read words written by a man who clearly liked thick girls (of which I most definitely am). It reaffirmed for me that everyone has a type, and finding what it is is half the fun.

I have the read the first part, and LaVey says that unless you are so ugly that people stare at you, you are able to be extremely sexy.

That's a gross over-simplification. LaVey gives other examples in the book besides these two extremes. Hell, he even does so in The Satanic Bible regarding lesser magic. You should re-read that part (p111-113) and especially the chapter "Looks Mean Everything" from The Satanic Witch.

And I'm by nature introverted, analytical, and possibly boring in certain contexts.

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I once transfered to a white strip club when I was a stripper and all the girls were the skinny leg, big busted type. I find my J-Lo shape is more appeal to black guys

This can only mean a couple of things.

One, You're likely a 3 to 6 six o'clock with an unsatisfied Demonic. I can't tell without some sort of physical gauge. I'm going to wager a 5 to 6 because they have the sinous fluid-like movements that go well with exotic dancing.

Two, You're probably unconciously targetting your own clock type and don't even realise it. You noticed that "fat girls don't like you.". Which is probably because of a couple of things.

You're again probably too close to their clock type to get any kind of sexual chemistry going. And knowing that most heavier girls fall into the 5:30 to 9:30 area, they are going to have more socially gregarious personalities.

Here are a couple of tips.

With men, the more direct you are, the better you will get your intentions across. We simply communicate that way. Look in the eye, (Always the right eye, ladies!) and a cop a fanny-feel. You will have his undivided attention.

With seducing a woman. Indirect, more classical approaches to seduction work best. Start with environment, and work your way from there. For those on the right hand side, socially muted, more intellectually stimulating venues are needed. Museums, etc. Getting inside their head must be a game of keep-away. Two steps forward, one step back.

For those on the left, go to a bar, nightclub, anywhere there are lots of people and interaction is emphasised. The more you are physically interacting with a left-hand sider, the easier it is to infect their mind with thoughts of you. A common technique that I have used to seduce a woman into a menage et trios is to use a co-operative massage combined with low-light, and atmospherics.

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I was refering to the good Doctor's discussion in TSW [pages 199-201] about how the witch has to adapt; you have to be able to "dumb down" to the one that sees intelligence as a threat, in order to feed his ego.

Yes, I've read the first part of The Satanic Witch. Yes, I suppose a clever Witch can get her way!I'm reading The Secret Life of a Satanist and it is really an interesting book.A part in it is about Jane Mansfield. She became one of the first converts to The Church of Satan.Boy, she was very manipulative in her relationship with Levay. She would call him at all hours of the day and night. She would insist that he see her even when he was lecturing. Etc.I was really surprised all and all then, that Levay, allowed himself to be so manipulated by her. He didn't like her antics, but still allowed himself to be manipulated.

Moon Shadow

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Yes, I've read the first part of The Satanic Witch. Yes, I suppose a clever Witch can get her way!I'm reading The Secret Life of a Satanist and it is really an interesting book.A part in it is about Jane Mansfield. She became one of the first converts to The Church of Satan.Boy, she was very manipulative in her relationship with Levay. She would call him at all hours of the day and night. She would insist that he see her even when he was lecturing. Etc.I was really surprised all and all then, that Levay, allowed himself to be so manipulated by her. He didn't like her antics, but still allowed himself to be manipulated.

Anyone know where all those smart well dressed lumberjacks who aren't intimidated by a woman with a perverted mind like a 10 year old boy trapped in the body of a voluptuous amazon goddess tend to hang out on a Saturday night?

Are you talking about those lumberjacks dressed in suits and ties? I'm gonna guess that they hang out at Starbucks. Yes, final answer: Starbucks.

Bonnie

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(from a book I read about beauty: )"If every woman in America woke up tomorrow and decided she is beautiful as she is, the world's economy would collapse overnight".

Something to think about when you consume beauty products, buy dietetic foods and subscribe to the gym.

It's all a bullshit delusion made to demoralize you into slavery.

Absolutely! I just tell people up front, "I'm hot," and that way there is no question on the subject. I mean, how can you argue with that? Right? After reading TSW I came to the conclusion that Dr. LaVey would agree with me. You can argue with me about THAT if you want to, but not whether I am hot because that is subjective.

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For one thing, I'm bisexual and am rarely attractive to fat women. I'm not fat myself but feel like I need to lose about 15 pounds in order to be seductive, especially if I want to appeal to white men.

Wait-who are you trying to appeal to, fat women or white men? You can't be everything to everyone, but you can offer a lot to most people.

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And I'm by nature introverted, analytical, and possibly boring in certain contexts. I feel this seductive ability is something some women are just naturally good at.

I do think confidence is really key here. Those characteristics could describe me as well, and yet I haven't found it a stumbling block. Think of it this way: introverted=mysterious, analytical=intelligent, possibly boring=potentially frustrating(and what's a common way to relieve frustration?) Do what you can to feel fabulous, don't worry about measuring up to some stereotype, and flaunt all the charms and assets you've got!

BTW, I knew a guy-a very BLUNT kind of guy- who actually told me I could be "boring"(because I was much more thoughtful and measured than what he was used to). Yet it was quite obvious from his actions that he had a raging crush on me! What he was describing, I think, was actually a desire to get a strong, passionate reaction out of me. If you think of yourself as a cool-headed intelligent woman with hidden passions, rather than a socially-awkward nerdy type, others will pick up on that perception of yourself and respond in kind.

Practically speaking, you can express your analytical side with a direct gaze that makes a person feel disarmed, as though you have seen to their very core, and your introverted side with elusive gestures which suggest there's much more to be discovered about you. And of course, you're not going to be everyone's "type", but projecting confidence(without arrogance) will generally inspire more favorable reactions!

I see there was a typo in the original post, hence a little confusion. I meant that I am rarely attractED to fat women. Who are you trying to attract, fat women, white men...? LOL

Looking back on this old thread I see that I have evolved dramatically. I would never ask that type of a question today. I also see that I was treated very graciously. I really appreciate the intelligence, strength, and class of the people here. HS!