Thankfully the lake is large enough that anybody who wishes to not see the Dive or be near it can simply go elsewhere. Plenty of room...many calm coves. Kind of like turning the channel on the TV if you don't like a show.

For lakefront owners who complain about it being so busy or people anchoring in front of their property - there is always the option to sell your Winni property and buy a place on Squam or Winnisquam that may better suit your speed.

Not being disrespectful - just pointing out what I see as viable options for those who don't like the Dive or how busy the lake is nowadays.

It's a busy lake - we are all lucky to be here and able to enjoy it.

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Thankfully the lake is large enough that anybody who wishes to not see the Dive or be near it can simply go elsewhere. Plenty of room...many calm coves. Kind of like turning the channel on the TV if you don't like a show.

For lakefront owners who complain about it being so busy or people anchoring in front of their property - there is always the option to sell your Winni property and buy a place on Squam or Winnisquam that may better suit your speed.

Not being disrespectful - just pointing out what I see as viable options for those who don't like the Dive or how busy the lake is nowadays.

It's a busy lake - we are all lucky to be here and able to enjoy it.

Sort of--

Good points on it being a big/busy lake and all of us being lucky. But the flip side is that all of us should be mindful of not too having too much impact on others, just in terms of manners. This Dive skeptic is not so much concerned about one Dive as about the potential for a dozen more. And that would make the lake feel smaller and the chances of finding that smaller cove more remote.

Also, I have not looked recently, but at any given time there are typically no more than a handful of properties available on all of Squam, and their prices are stratospheric, and I'm not sure many of us would think of Winnisquam as a rough equivalent to Winnipesaukee. So these are not realistic alternatives.

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Information I have is that the Dive will be at Lakeshore Park this Thursday 7/5(weather permitting) !!

I believe it is in conjunction with events they hold over the 4th.

It will be there tomorrow, July 5th all day. Its supposed to tie up to Big Pier wind depending.
Feel bad for the camps right there. Its supposed to be a LSP only thing but I'm curious how they are going to stop boats from anchoring in front of the park?

The Braun Bay area would be about 500,000 cubic feet of water area (~800'x200'x3' deep).

There are 7.48 gallons of water in 1 ft^3.

Thus there is over 3.7 million gallons of water in the Braun Bay area alone.

Let's assume you have 1,000 people there, and they each pee .5 gallons over the course of the day, that 500 gallons / 3.7M gallons, or a diluted amount of .013% pee.

That is of course not accounting for any additional dilution caused from currents through the area (natural, or just caused by boat movement).

Meh, not really in my Top 10 list of concerns about a sandbar.

You would conclude that but they close beaches down for duck itch and I think there are far fewer ducks going in the water around the beaches than what's going on at that sandbar.
But that's where we have a difference of opinion.
If you're OK with it then have at it, but keep your mouth closed. I'll pass.

I think my timeline is more like 25 years ago - at least that's when I was hanging around Braun Bay and West Alton as a regular. I don't care how much dilution there is, now I call them Urination Cove Guess I'm an old fart now but have at it if that's what you like. It's all good

You would conclude that but they close beaches down for duck itch and I think there are far fewer ducks going in the water around the beaches than what's going on at that sandbar.
But that's where we have a difference of opinion.
If you're OK with it then have at it, but keep your mouth closed. I'll pass.

You'll wonder where the yellow went when you brush your teeth with Pepsodent

Also, I have not looked recently, but at any given time there are typically no more than a handful of properties available on all of Squam, and their prices are stratospheric, and I'm not sure many of us would think of Winnisquam as a rough equivalent to Winnipesaukee. So these are not realistic alternatives.

I lived 40 years on Lake Winnipesaukee, (family since 1892), the property tax went through the roof! I decided to sell the property on The Broad and moved to Lake Winnisquam. Peace at last and affordable. Personally Lake Winnisquam is a better retirement alternative and far better for boating on weekends than Winnipesaukee. Yes, off season, it can't hold a candle to the big lake, but year round Winnisquam has more value.

The 'complainer' is in one of those cottages near the Pier, a Florida native, who thinks he own the lake! When he bought the property he must realize he is in a commercial zone, and the lake is for the enjoyment of all, as a lakefront owner I realize this and I don't go fuming if someone casually drove by my property!
BTW, when The Dive settled in, he is far enough away that his view is not effected at all! He's the one been complaining about Biketember Fest, Wake the Lake and the soon to be famous Blues Fest! I think he should start thinking about moving, perhaps to the 'boros?!?!?!?!

I lived 40 years on Lake Winnipesaukee, (family since 1892), the property tax went through the roof! I decided to sell the property on The Broad and moved to Lake Winnisquam. Peace at last and affordable. Personally Lake Winnisquam is a better retirement alternative and far better for boating on weekends than Winnipesaukee. Yes, off season, it can't hold a candle to the big lake, but year round Winnisquam has more value.

I had a cottage in Alton Bay on Winni back in the 70's then sold that and built a place on Winnisquam in the 80's.
I loved Winnisquam and looked for another place to buy there but we found a place on Waukewan, which we fell in love with. We've been there 5 years now and I don't think I would ever go back to Winni.
If something came available on Winnisquam in the town of Meredith that was reasonable I would consider it. But I was in Sanbornton and the taxes, just like Laconia, are outrageous, no thanks!
My brother inlaw has a place in Sanbornton with no beach rights, 1/2 the size of my house, 1/2 the size of my land and pays double what I pay in taxes in Meredith.

I lived 40 years on Lake Winnipesaukee, (family since 1892), the property tax went through the roof! I decided to sell the property on The Broad and moved to Lake Winnisquam. Peace at last and affordable. Personally Lake Winnisquam is a better retirement alternative and far better for boating on weekends than Winnipesaukee. Yes, off season, it can't hold a candle to the big lake, but year round Winnisquam has more value.

I've never been on Winnisquam--are there ports/public docks like Winni? Sandbars?

comment for Joey I am sorry but you are wrong about the complainers renting their property that the Dive is almost directly in front of they are there almost everyday throughout the year.. although not permanent.The Dive is a major nuisance and unlike what they say their music is NOT ambient and it starts early in the morning and continues all day non stop especially on weekends when you would like to enjoy your property with friends but cant because of a huge billboard with noise overlooking you all day. Imagine paying huge taxes for waterfront property and being able to work from home and having to shut your windows because of for lack of a better word raucous behavior untilpast midnight I think not. The Dive does NOT belong in a residential area but where they claim they were going to be on the lake and hopefully they can see that they affect many people and can try to become good neighbors to all and correct their errors

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comment for Joey I am sorry but you are wrong about the complainers renting their property that the Dive is almost directly in front of they are there almost everyday throughout the year.. although not permanent.The Dive is a major nuisance and unlike what they say their music is NOT ambient and it starts early in the morning and continues all day non stop especially on weekends when you would like to enjoy your property with friends but cant because of a huge billboard with noise overlooking you all day. Imagine paying huge taxes for waterfront property and being able to work from home and having to shut your windows because of for lack of a better word raucous behavior untilpast midnight I think not. The Dive does NOT belong in a residential area but where they claim they were going to be on the lake and hopefully they can see that they affect many people and can try to become good neighbors to all and correct their errors

I’m sorry I disagree and I also own in the area. As long at the Dive is not breaking any law regarding noise or the location of its mooring then it has every right to be at its location at the pier. You may not like it but as long as they are law abiding then there is not much you can do other than petition to the City.

Note the history of this location has always been entrainment drive way back to the dances and concerts held at the Winnipesaukee Gardens.

comment for Joey I am sorry but you are wrong about the complainers renting their property that the Dive is almost directly in front of they are there almost everyday throughout the year.. although not permanent.The Dive is a major nuisance and unlike what they say their music is NOT ambient and it starts early in the morning and continues all day non stop especially on weekends when you would like to enjoy your property with friends but cant because of a huge billboard with noise overlooking you all day. Imagine paying huge taxes for waterfront property and being able to work from home and having to shut your windows because of for lack of a better word raucous behavior untilpast midnight I think not. The Dive does NOT belong in a residential area but where they claim they were going to be on the lake and hopefully they can see that they affect many people and can try to become good neighbors to all and correct their errors

Everyone loves the concept until it's in their back yard, or in this case, front yard. I don't blame them at all for complaining.

There are a couple of private business docks (small docks), one at the Mosquito Bridge store and one at the Lobster Connection. No public “3 hour” docks that I know of. There is a couple of sand bars and one loon sanctuary. There are not many “hazards” like rocks anywhere on the lake. I believe there are 2 marinas on Winnisquam...Winnisquam Marine (same owner as Winni Marine on the channel) and one on the Winnipesaukee River across from the state boat ramps.
Nice lake but the “destinations” are not there like on the big lake.

There are a couple of private business docks (small docks), one at the Mosquito Bridge store and one at the Lobster Connection. No public “3 hour” docks that I know of. There is a couple of sand bars and one loon sanctuary. There are not many “hazards” like rocks anywhere on the lake. I believe there are 2 marinas on Winnisquam...Winnisquam Marine (same owner as Winni Marine on the channel) and one on the Winnipesaukee River across from the state boat ramps.
Nice lake but the “destinations” are not there like on the big lake.

Thanks! I think we're spoiled being in the north of Winni, as we've got enough No Wake areas to chill and with a (short enough) ride, we can be to the "Big Lake."

Cheers, and back to our regularly scheduled debate about The Dive's presence at The Weirs pier.

This thread has obviously drawn a lot of interest on both sides. It would be interesting for someone to start a poll, for and against.

A poll like that on this forum would mean absolutely nothing. It is quite obvious based on the amount of people that frequent the dive (its packed every day and night at the pier, not to mention at the sandbars) that anyone against it would by FAR be in the minority. Go on their facebook page and look at the support they have.

The person that is complaining bought a home directly next to the pier in the weirs which is zoned commercial...did they really expect serenity??

The pier and the dive did absolutely nothing wrong and the town approved everything as being per their code. There is no argument here whatsoever. They have the right to run their business in a commercial area as they see fit as long as no noise ordinances or other town laws are broken.

In my opinion the Dive has added a lot of visitors to the Weirs. It is where it should be and I cannot think of a better place for it. They will be and have been very successful thus far in that location and I wish them well!

Dan

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A poll like that on this forum would mean absolutely nothing. It is quite obvious based on the amount of people that frequent the dive (its packed every day and night at the pier, not to mention at the sandbars) that anyone against it would by FAR be in the minority. Go on their facebook page and look at the support they have.

The person that is complaining bought a home directly next to the pier in the weirs which is zoned commercial...did they really expect serenity??

The pier and the dive did absolutely nothing wrong and the town approved everything as being per their code. There is no argument here whatsoever. They have the right to run their business in a commercial area as they see fit as long as no noise ordinances or other town laws are broken.

In my opinion the Dive has added a lot of visitors to the Weirs. It is where it should be and I cannot think of a better place for it. They will be and have been very successful thus far in that location and I wish them well!

Yes but if it legally docked, as it is, there is nothing they can really do about it. Keep in mind the pier and its entertainment activity have been there for over 70 years so they knew what they were getting into when they purchased their property

A poll like that on this forum would mean absolutely nothing. It is quite obvious based on the amount of people that frequent the dive (its packed every day and night at the pier, not to mention at the sandbars) that anyone against it would by FAR be in the minority. Go on their facebook page and look at the support they have.

The person that is complaining bought a home directly next to the pier in the weirs which is zoned commercial...did they really expect serenity??

The pier and the dive did absolutely nothing wrong and the town approved everything as being per their code. There is no argument here whatsoever. They have the right to run their business in a commercial area as they see fit as long as no noise ordinances or other town laws are broken.

In my opinion the Dive has added a lot of visitors to the Weirs. It is where it should be and I cannot think of a better place for it. They will be and have been very successful thus far in that location and I wish them well!

Dan

Dan, stop being so logical!! I have not been to the Dive, but will at some point soon.

Yes but if it legally docked, as it is, there is nothing they can really do about it. Keep in mind the pier and its entertainment activity have been there for over 70 years so they knew what they were getting into when they purchased their property

Agreed on the legality, but I wonder if there'd be a better setup orientation so's it wouldn't interfere with the homes nearby.

Like I've said before, I don't have an issue with the Dive, I have an issue with the Dive impacting people's access/use of public property.

I have no skin in the game. I'm not on Winni but I can understand why people don't want to look at that out their front window, where ever it's parked.
It's never going to block my view but that doesn't mean I have no right to an opinion on the matter.

I lived 40 years on Lake Winnipesaukee, (family since 1892), the property tax went through the roof! I decided to sell the property on The Broad and moved to Lake Winnisquam. Peace at last and affordable. Personally Lake Winnisquam is a better retirement alternative and far better for boating on weekends than Winnipesaukee. Yes, off season, it can't hold a candle to the big lake, but year round Winnisquam has more value.

I did not mean to suggest Winnisquam (or Waukewan) is not as good, only that it is not really comparable in that the pluses and minuses of each are so different. Some folks like size, some like quaintness; it's all good.

I’m sorry I disagree and I also own in the area. As long at the Dive is not breaking any law regarding noise or the location of its mooring then it has every right to be at its location at the pier. You may not like it but as long as they are law abiding then there is not much you can do other than petition to the City.

Note the history of this location has always been entrainment drive way back to the dances and concerts held at the Winnipesaukee Gardens.

You seem to equate the law with being a good neighbor, these are separate things. No one has said they aren't following the law, only that they are a lousy neighbor. Even many of your posts imply this when you say things like "as long as they don't go to the same place every day..."

As to "not much you can do about it", Mr Florida seems to be doing something, or the Dive would not have set up petition

You seem to equate the law with being a good neighbor, these are separate things. No one has said they aren't following the law, only that they are a lousy neighbor. Even many of your posts imply this when you say things like "as long as they don't go to the same place every day..."

As to "not much you can do about it", Mr Florida seems to be doing something, or the Dive would not have set up petition

Who says they are a lousy neighbor? Just one person.

The Dive took the mooring space that they were given by East Coast Flightcraft and the city.

My reference is to mooring in coves for rafting in purely residential areas that are "NOT" commercially zoned areas which is not the case where they dock nightly and keep in mind not only are they in that location but many other bars and restaurants that play music and have a tremendous amount of night activity especially on the weekends this is just the type of area the Weirs Boardwalk is, again they purchased is this neighborhood and should expect this type of activity.

The Laconia Sun reported “After the busy 4th of July weekend, water testing at Ellacoya State Park showed fecal bacteria at levels beyond state standards, making the area unsuitable for wading or swimming, the state Department of Environmental Services said Tuesday.”

Does anyone know if the State conducts bacterial testing in Braun Bay and Smalls Cove when they are mobbed with people who come for the day with no rest room facilities? Water circulation moves that “stuff” somewhere in the lake. It is good that the Dive has facilities, but it can not possibly take care of The “crowds” of people they are reportedly drawing to the sand bars.

Maybe the town of Moultonborough and town of Alton would agree to pay the $270-each for the NH-DES to test the waters at the Braun Bay sandbar area, and West Alton sandbar area on a monthly basis during the summer months, similar to a swim beach? Perhaps DES could catch a boat ride from the Marine Patrol or probably someone could volunteer a boat ride for DES testing to get the tester, out there and back.

Here's a great idea ..... just have the DES tester person spend the whole day on board The Dive, for a round trip visit moving along at 4-mph, out and back ..... strictly for testing purposes.

The Laconia Sun reported “After the busy 4th of July weekend, water testing at Ellacoya State Park showed fecal bacteria at levels beyond state standards, making the area unsuitable for wading or swimming, the state Department of Environmental Services said Tuesday.”

Does anyone know if the State conducts bacterial testing in Braun Bay and Smalls Cove when they are mobbed with people who come for the day with no rest room facilities? Water circulation moves that “stuff” somewhere in the lake. It is good that the Dive has facilities, but it can not possibly take care of The “crowds” of people they are reportedly drawing to the sand bars.

Looks like a Baby Ruth! Yummmm...

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Just a point of information: The city of Laconia does not approve or enforce anything on the water. It is up to the state.

Interesting...so the pier does not have to answer to the city on how their property, dock space in this matter, gets rented out? Would the city not collect taxes on the revenue generated by the rental space?

Maybe the town of Moultonborough and town of Alton would agree to pay the $270-each for the NH-DES to test the waters at the Braun Bay sandbar area, and West Alton sandbar area on a monthly basis during the summer months, similar to a swim beach? Perhaps DES could catch a boat ride from the Marine Patrol or probably someone could volunteer a boat ride for DES testing to get the tester, out there and back.

Here's a great idea ..... just have the DES tester person spend the whole day on board The Dive, for a round trip visit moving along at 4-mph, out and back ..... strictly for testing purposes.

Speaking of __it or should I say water quality, how about $270 from you after you feed the geese and ducks with your famous boxes of Cheez-It's and they can test the water around your place. As mentioned Strictly for testing purposes.

Speaking of __it or should I say water quality, how about $270 from you after you feed the geese and ducks with your famous boxes of Cheez-It's and they can test the water around your place. As mentioned Strictly for testing purposes.

.....is just one goose, named Canada, who has shown up for the last six years from last week of March thru first week of May ..... while he lounges about, keeping one eye on his nesting mate ..... she sits on the nest about 150-yds away on Horse Island.

Canada tells me he likes the Cheez-it originals in the $4-family box from Walmart, best!

Whenever any foreign geese get within 200-yards of Horse Island, Canada goes into high alert, starts honking, and goes into fighter air attack mode and shoos away the incoming goose or geese .... he is all powered up by Cheez-its original .... which will float .... and can be tossed 40-feet like a Frisbee.

Interesting...so the pier does not have to answer to the city on how their property, dock space in this matter, gets rented out? Would the city not collect taxes on the revenue generated by the rental space?

Thanks for the info!

Dan

Correct. The city cannot tell them who they can rent to. The pier is privately owned and that is a decision of the owner.

No, the city does not have a tax specifically for "rental space". Of course, that rental income would be considered part of the value of the property and reflected in the assessment for real estate tax purposes.

I have commercial property and docks on the lake and the decision of who I rent to is totally up to me. The only tax I pay, other than real estate taxes on the property, is the income tax on the revenue generated by the rentals. That tax goes to the Federal Government, not to the state or the city. There is no city income tax. (This is not New York)

The mis-information and off topic posts on this thread are embarrassing. A little restraint, please. Try to be positive. Lets's all just enjoy Lake Winnipesaukee and the forum. Remember, you'll want to shake hands and hug these folks at the next ForumFest.

Correct. The city cannot tell them who they can rent to. The pier is privately owned and that is a decision of the owner.

No, the city does not have a tax specifically for "rental space". Of course, that rental income would be considered part of the value of the property and reflected in the assessment for real estate tax purposes.

I have commercial property and docks on the lake and the decision of who I rent to is totally up to me. The only tax I pay, other than real estate taxes on the property, is the income tax on the revenue generated by the rentals. That tax goes to the Federal Government, not to the state or the city. There is no city income tax. (This is not New York)

It just amazes me that 271 posts into this thread the same OLD people are continuing to find cause (ugly, expensive, bad neighbor, not sea worthy- despite coast Guard approvals, so on & so on snipes by the same "armchair experts") why the Dive should not be on the Lake.

Why not embrace it . It is simply another "attraction" to our Seasonal business...….if you do not personally like it - simply don't go! If the sight of it at a sand bar bothers you - find another! ONE property owner at Weirs has an issue -- we'll see how that turns out.

Clearly - being into their second Season of operation with 2,000+ petition supporters in just one day and appears over 5,600 supporters on Facebook they are doing something right for one fairly large segment of the "market" !

I cannot recall another thread that has SO MUCH negativity consistently thrown in by such a small circle of members.

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It just amazes me that 271 posts into this thread the same OLD people are continuing to find cause (ugly, expensive, bad neighbor, not sea worthy- despite coast Guard approvals, so on & so on snipes by the same "armchair experts") why the Dive should not be on the Lake.

Why not embrace it . It is simply another "attraction" to our Seasonal business...….if you do not personally like it - simply don't go! If the sight of it at a sand bar bothers you - find another! ONE property owner at Weirs has an issue -- we'll see how that turns out.

Clearly - being into their second Season of operation with 2,000+ petition supporters in just one day and appears over 5,600 supporters on Facebook they are doing something right for one fairly large segment of the "market" !

I cannot recall another thread that has SO MUCH negativity consistently thrown in by such a small circle of members..

AMEN Phantom! This is really comical to see some of these ridiculous comments! Water testing at the sand bar, just because the DIVE is there? Typical smoke and mirrors arguments from the same cry babies.

To your other point "I cannot recall another thread that has SO MUCH negativity consistently thrown in by such a small circle of members." I can...but won't bring up the taboo subject....

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The Laconia Sun reported “After the busy 4th of July weekend, water testing at Ellacoya State Park showed fecal bacteria at levels beyond state standards, making the area unsuitable for wading or swimming, the state Department of Environmental Services said Tuesday.”

Does anyone know if the State conducts bacterial testing in Braun Bay and Smalls Cove when they are mobbed with people who come for the day with no rest room facilities? Water circulation moves that “stuff” somewhere in the lake. It is good that the Dive has facilities, but it can not possibly take care of The “crowds” of people they are reportedly drawing to the sand bars.

I think you've got it backwards. The Dive isn't drawing crowds to the sand bar, the sand bar crowd is drawing The Dive.

That petition (for whatever good having a petition is) is closing in on 2,500 signatures in a few days, not that bad.

The Laconia Sun reported “After the busy 4th of July weekend, water testing at Ellacoya State Park showed fecal bacteria at levels beyond state standards, making the area unsuitable for wading or swimming, the state Department of Environmental Services said Tuesday.”

Does anyone know if the State conducts bacterial testing in Braun Bay and Smalls Cove when they are mobbed with people who come for the day with no rest room facilities? Water circulation moves that “stuff” somewhere in the lake. It is good that the Dive has facilities, but it can not possibly take care of The “crowds” of people they are reportedly drawing to the sand bars.

LET'S be CLEAR --- --- the Dive was nowhere (relatively) near the State Park over the 4th weekend … in addition -- the Dive event was NOT open to the public -- it was a "shore" party for Lake Shore Residents and they boarded by the "Big Pier" (no boats, no sand bar event)………………. as stated in my other post -- just another lame accusation towards the Dive....

and no -- I have no vested interest … in fact, I have indeed been aboard, but personally would not go back unless I was taking guests for the novelty experience.

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LET'S be CLEAR --- --- the Dive was nowhere (relatively) near the State Park over the 4th weekend … in addition -- the Dive event was NOT open to the public -- it was a "shore" party for Lake Shore Residents and they boarded by the "Big Pier" (no boats, no sand bar event)………………. as stated in my other post -- just another lame accusation towards the Dive....

and no -- I have no vested interest … in fact, I have indeed been aboard, but personally would not go back unless I was taking guests for the novelty experience.

Great post!!! just one small correction, the Dive was in Brain Bay on the 4th.

You missed the point.... nobody said the Dive was anywhere near Ellacoya on July 4. Each opposing side of this forum (aka debate) will believe what they want to believe. There are lovers and haters of the Dive and this forum will only reinforce this, but it is fun to read

For $23.74 the Gilford Walmart has a 15-lb anchor, named a river anchor, that is coated with black vinyi and has three large prongs ...... is basically a mushroom style anchor with three prongs designed to claw into the lake bottom, and these work good on both rocky and sandy lake bottoms.

For about $50, the Walmart website has a similar design anchor that weighs 30-lbs which is probably the maximum weight for an anchor to be removed by muscle power, without an electric winch.

Have to wonder if one of these 30-lb three prong anchors and 100' of 3/4" line would be able to hold The Dive, a 22'x62' barge, in place in water that's about 15-20' deep?

....... anchors away ....... and bottoms up ...... here's to this anchor holding The Dive barge in place! ..... otherwise just aim for the rocks ..... and think positive thoughts!

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Perhaps you should have lifted their ineffective anchor and set their boat adrift toward the deeper water...no excuse for partying while your boat is unattended and unstable. Or get some really sticky stickers and slap one on their boat somewhere obvious saying “ANCHORING BASICS...LEARN THEM!”

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Perhaps you should have lifted their ineffective anchor and set their boat adrift toward the deeper water...no excuse for partying while your boat is unattended and unstable. Or get some really sticky stickers and slap one on their boat somewhere obvious saying “ANCHORING BASICS...LEARN THEM!”

I actually like helping people at sandbars--I remember my first time visiting one and how much easier it was when people jumped in to lend a hand.

You're right, though--there's a difference between needing a hand and leaving to let others deal with your mess.

For $23.74 the Gilford Walmart has a 15-lb anchor, named a river anchor, that is coated with black vinyi and has three large prongs ...... is basically a mushroom style anchor with three prongs designed to claw into the lake bottom, and these work good on both rocky and sandy lake bottoms.

For about $50, the Walmart website has a similar design anchor that weighs 30-lbs which is probably the maximum weight for an anchor to be removed by muscle power, without an electric winch.

Have to wonder if one of these 30-lb three prong anchors and 100' of 3/4" line would be able to hold The Dive, a 22'x62' barge, in place in water that's about 15-20' deep?

....... anchors away ....... and bottoms up ...... here's to this anchor holding The Dive barge in place! ..... otherwise just aim for the rocks ..... and think positive thoughts!

Do you work at, live at or have large amounts of stock in Walmart? Just curious..

That sandbar is terrible...we love it during the week but never on the weekends...too busy at the channel, way too much boat chop, steep drop offs and soft sand...fts...

Inside at least one row of boats, it calms down a bit and there's no drop-off. We like that there's much less detritus than the other sandbars, the depth is consistent, and, most of all, it's not loud or obnoxious like Braun Bay. It's also the closest sandbar to us.

Citing the spuds down site of The Dive for noise and blocking the view for residents on nearby Simpson Ave, The Dive could maybe get relocated to the other side of the large Pier building as a way to mitigate the noise and view issues for the neighbors.

It would probably be a better spot for attracting customers just because it would be much more visible from the boardwalk and the road if moved to the inside of the Winni Pier, between the Mount Washington cruise ship and the Pier. Isn't that the spot where the Winnipesaukee Queen, a two masted 48' sailboat used to dock in between 90-minute sailing cruises out to Mark Island and back.

Two issues with the article: 1) this is their 1st season at the pier not there second 2) in my opinion and I pass by the area frequently as a keep my boat close by, I do not believe that the current location of the Dive is a safety hazard to other boats navigating the area near the pier.

As the Dive passed by East Bear Island on its return to the Weirs this evening, I wondered :

Is the Dive required to have PFDs for patrons when at its location at Braun Bay, etc.?

Are there any patrons aboard when she travels? ⚓️

No patrons are aboard as it travels to and from the pier and it’s chosen sand bar. However they to rent it out for chatter. Since it has been inspected and approved by the MP I’m sure it has PFDs for each passenger.

As far at patrons at the sand bars I’m not sure if they are required to have a PFD for each person since the spuds are down but it is a good question.