Just ....blah. I don't care if they kill Hassan and disrupt the peace talks because the whole idea of such a thing is ridiculous and I don't care about the characters. Hassan is blah, US President is awful....

Maybe I'm just immune to the scripted beginnings of these things where Jack reluctantly and unwillingly gets dragged back in. I didn't even jump when the ax went into the chest on the stairwell.

It took less than two episodes but I'm already okay if they kill off Chloe and Kim this season if they just do it soon. Although Chloe's puppy dog face as Kim gave Jack permission to stay in NYC was about as high on the unintentional comedy scale as you can get.

Two hours in and I'll give it tonight to see if I get sucked back in. Otherwise I'll be reading something or watching college hoops.

Head of CTU is a rigid fool? CheckApparently anyone can get into CTU and get access to the armory? CheckApparently some tweaker/trailer chick can fool CTU into a high level job despite what appears to be a bad past? Check

Too many cliches for my taste thus far. Maybe they were just getting them all out of the way

Just ....blah. I don't care if they kill Hassan and disrupt the peace talks because the whole idea of such a thing is ridiculous and I don't care about the characters. Hassan is blah, US President is awful....

Maybe I'm just immune to the scripted beginnings of these things where Jack reluctantly and unwillingly gets dragged back in. I didn't even jump when the ax went into the chest on the stairwell.

It took less than two episodes but I'm already okay if they kill off Chloe and Kim this season if they just do it soon. Although Chloe's puppy dog face as Kim gave Jack permission to stay in NYC was about as high on the unintentional comedy scale as you can get.

Two hours in and I'll give it tonight to see if I get sucked back in. Otherwise I'll be reading something or watching college hoops.

Head of CTU is a rigid fool? CheckApparently anyone can get into CTU and get access to the armory? CheckApparently some tweaker/trailer chick can fool CTU into a high level job despite what appears to be a bad past? Check

Too many cliches for my taste thus far. Maybe they were just getting them all out of the way

Peeker643 wrote:Well, I figure I'll watch for as long as Renee is hacking off hands and has that vacant look in her eyes.

Yeah...that was just effin awesome.

And this would be the second Russian with his forearm hacked off (Boris the Blade in Season 6).

OK...after a meh first two hours, we are seeing some potential here.

The seasons and limbs all blend together for me. Along with all the CTU moles (they need to look at whomever is in charge of recruiting, HR and hiring in that joint) and incompetent Directors, high level White House traitors and number of chairs Jack has been beaten in and escaped from.

I'm still week to week. I want to watch. But the first two hours shoulda been more emphatic.

dontcha just love how jack gets out of chair beating and doesn't have a mark left on him??? instead of a "chuck norris facts" website, they should have a "jack bauer facts" website - the 3 leading causes of death are 1. heart disease 2. cancer 3. jack bauer

Just ....blah. I don't care if they kill Hassan and disrupt the peace talks because the whole idea of such a thing is ridiculous and I don't care about the characters. Hassan is blah, US President is awful....

Maybe I'm just immune to the scripted beginnings of these things where Jack reluctantly and unwillingly gets dragged back in. I didn't even jump when the ax went into the chest on the stairwell.

It took less than two episodes but I'm already okay if they kill off Chloe and Kim this season if they just do it soon. Although Chloe's puppy dog face as Kim gave Jack permission to stay in NYC was about as high on the unintentional comedy scale as you can get.

Two hours in and I'll give it tonight to see if I get sucked back in. Otherwise I'll be reading something or watching college hoops.

Head of CTU is a rigid fool? CheckApparently anyone can get into CTU and get access to the armory? CheckApparently some tweaker/trailer chick can fool CTU into a high level job despite what appears to be a bad past? Check

Too many cliches for my taste thus far. Maybe they were just getting them all out of the way

Mostly agree with Peek. HR needs some help at CTU, maybe a government bailout, need more man power to background check. Also I just cannot get into Renee Walker. Sure she has a nice rack, but that face screams praying mantis, and now she out Jack's Jack.

The whole I will keep my distance from her since she did not want to speak lasted all of what seemed one scene. The whole I have to go with her was just weird... I am sick of seeing these women in "over the top" positions of manliness. Gimmie a break...

"When a man with money meets a man with experience, the man with experience leaves with money and the man with money leaves with experience."

Orenthal wrote:Mostly agree with Peek. HR needs some help at CTU, maybe a government bailout, need more man power to background check. Also I just cannot get into Renee Walker. Sure she has a nice rack, but that face screams praying mantis, and now she out Jack's Jack.

The whole I will keep my distance from her since she did not want to speak lasted all of what seemed one scene. The whole I have to go with her was just weird... I am sick of seeing these women in "over the top" positions of manliness. Gimmie a break...

When I see Renee I see green eyes and a low cut top. I didn't even notice if she had a nose and mouth this season much less remembering her talking.

Orenthal wrote:Mostly agree with Peek. HR needs some help at CTU, maybe a government bailout, need more man power to background check. Also I just cannot get into Renee Walker. Sure she has a nice rack, but that face screams praying mantis, and now she out Jack's Jack.

The whole I will keep my distance from her since she did not want to speak lasted all of what seemed one scene. The whole I have to go with her was just weird... I am sick of seeing these women in "over the top" positions of manliness. Gimmie a break...

When I see Renee I see green eyes and a low cut top. I didn't even notice if she had a nose and mouth this season much less remembering her talking.

Big fan of Renee's. Agree on the white noise when she's talking. Eyes, cleavage, lopping off that rooskie's hand. That's all I retained.

Mitch's column fills in the blanks for me. Takes a lot of the pressure off of having to actually concentrate on the plot.

"It's like dating a woman who hates you so much she will never break up with you, even if you burn down the house every single autumn." ~ Chuck Klosterman on Browns fans relationship with the Browns

Orenthal wrote:Mostly agree with Peek. HR needs some help at CTU, maybe a government bailout, need more man power to background check. Also I just cannot get into Renee Walker. Sure she has a nice rack, but that face screams praying mantis, and now she out Jack's Jack.

The whole I will keep my distance from her since she did not want to speak lasted all of what seemed one scene. The whole I have to go with her was just weird... I am sick of seeing these women in "over the top" positions of manliness. Gimmie a break...

When I see Renee I see green eyes and a low cut top. I didn't even notice if she had a nose and mouth this season much less remembering her talking.

Don't get me wrong compared to some of the other women with man haircuts and flat chests its great. Grey eyes, and a lack of acting skills is okay with me in most situations. I'll take a wait and lear approach...

Probably mostly due to me being 100% male chauvinist... When she out Jack's Jack, and how the F is their a woman prez. Sorry we already know in real life and 24 that a black man has a better chance...

"When a man with money meets a man with experience, the man with experience leaves with money and the man with money leaves with experience."

First a tribute to Mitch for great write ups. Anyone who can work Sprocket into this and "it's tme to dance" has just produced literary genius. Can you work in "touch my monkey" next week?

1. If I ever could have taken a beating like Jack and walked around with no after affects and leave my attacker with busted ribs I would have been a lot more ballsy in my life.2. Future plot prediction: Dana Starbuck and Chloe will become BFF. Chloe will find out about scum ex-boyfriend and tip off Jack or Cole somehow. Either way Hillbilly takes a beatdown and crawls away looking like hamburger meat due to his lacking Jacks recouperative powers. Or somehow he gets caught up in some sort of crossfire and is killed for a "no big loss to the show."3. Dana isn't going anywhere. If Garacrapalo can make it through a whole season Dana sure as heck can. Otherwise there is no god.4. Is it just me or did Chloe look like she shed 20 pounds between hour 4 and hour 7? Plus they dolled her up after seeing how plain she was next to Dana "I challenge Renee's Rack" Starbuck.5. I don't care if Hastings did apologize to Chloe, he is still an idiot scumbag. The only reason he did it is because he doesn't want to get his kneecaps shot by Jack should Jack find out he was mean to Chloe.6. Miles lost his job?? Who cares....CTU is nothing without Chloe.7. The whole Dana Starbuck background check FAIL thing. Is it any wonder CTU is continually effed up?8. I cheered when I saw Renee and her marvelous bosom return. The look I got from my wife however caused my junk to shrivel. Note to self- Keep inner thoughts private. Very very private.9. Jack and Renee were two seconds from dropping to the conference room floor and curing 7 months of lust but that whole Russian thing sort of got in the way. Jack has been walking funny ever since.10. Someone kill the president. Fast.

I guess my final thought is what a great show to write for. You know that as a writer you can write anything, no matter how implausible, and the wilder it is the more the audience forgives you because implausibility is now a character of the show. If normal rules of space and time applied to this show no one would watch it. Just genius. I'm in for another 20 hours. Oh and please, find a way to get Renee into something tighter and lower cut. After all on 24 you can do anything.

Finished the first 4 hours last night. Caught up. Not great but with more potential than last season.

I agree with the posters here on most stuff.

1. Put me squarely in the Renee is smoking group.2. I have no hope for the story line involving poor man's Amy Smart and her hillbilly ex.3. Cherry Jones = worst TV pres ever. And she's aged about 28 years since Signs.4. I STILL can't stand a lot of the dialog. Example - When the new young Chief of Staff keeps calling the CTU guy to berate him for not knowing everything right now is ridiculous. Do these people really make these kind of calls? Jesus, they're bigger reactionaries than the Malibu Police Chief.

Pencil me in for the season, no matter how bad it gets.

BTW - Anybody ever seen Chloe on other stuff and as a guest on talk shows? She's weird as hell and pretty damn funny.

me thinks renee has a death wish. she almost bought the farm tonite too, but thankfully the russian took one look at those steely green eyes (not to mention the perfect cleavage) and said "i must have you".

Is it wrong that I want Dana's boyfriend to just beat her to death just to see the end of the storyline? That scene was so excruciatingly long I half expected Jack to break into the window, snap his neck, and leave all without saying a word.

If you are the bad guy and you're trying to set up a multimillion dollar arms/uranium/dirty bomb/drug deal. When someone shows up unexpectedly they always get patted down and searched. OK, I get that. Makes sense. They occasionally take someone to the brink of death (ala Renee last night) because they "have to be sure." I'll by that too. Whatever.

Why the hell don't any of these guys take a quick look in someone's ears? It would only take a second. Hell, they could even use one of those doctor ear looking thingies with the light. I'm sure if they can get Uranium and guns and whatnot they could score one of those medical devices.

I mean, for pete's sake haven't they ever seen 24? Just look in their ears, man. What's your problem?

Pup wrote:Saw a glimpse of Old Jack last night. The phone conversation where he put that Russian in his place was perfect Jack.

That was a great scene.

Lots of good spy stuff this episode. I thought it was a great decision by Renee, a few hours after going undercover with the Russian mob, getting thrown in the trunk, brought to the brink of assasination, dealing with the dame crazy russian who raped her (allegedly) a few years prior...yeah, might as well hop in the shower since I have a few minutes. That made total sense. On the other hand, I've never wished more that this show was on Showtime than that scene.

Anyone else think that the Kevinbob plan is foolproof? Cameras and keycards everywhere. There's no chance of getting caught. Nobody will ever figure out where that $120K went.

I never thought that I would ever see a less convincing President on my TV screen than Bill Pullman (I never saw that Gena Davis show) but Cherry Jones's character is historically bad.

I continue to get increasingly more angry when any segment deals with the president and the peace talks.

I continue to be stunned at how little thought was put into the Dana storyline.

Underwhelmed is bordering on disappointed.

And i personally thought Renee looked like a soaked, anorexic cat after emerging from the shower.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

(OTOH, I have no choice but to attack the general blah-ness of this season on the next recap. There is still hope, but the only thing currently interesting to watch is Jack...and Chloe laying verbal wood to some asshole's head).

Ok so while we wait for the next episode and since Lost has started as well, if you are stuck on an island somwhere who's the babe you want with you, Renee or Kate (Evagelene Lilly) from Lost. I'm thinking Kate on this one even though she did shack up with a hobbit for a while.

The No Look Tracheotomy was what I have been looking for out of Jack all season. He did have to return to Soft Jack for a spell, but it looks like with some shock treatment coming up in the coming weeks we are in for a solid finish to the Death Count.

And that first stab by Renee...that was square in the eye, correct? How does that go about a woman scorn?

Pup wrote:The No Look Tracheotomy was what I have been looking for out of Jack all season. He did have to return to Soft Jack for a spell, but it looks like with some shock treatment coming up in the coming weeks we are in for a solid finish to the Death Count.

And that first stab by Renee...that was square in the eye, correct? How does that go about a woman scorn?

1. Is there anyone who didn't know that Kevinbob and Jethro would not be leaving immediately after the score? As soon as I heard "20 minutes until the next shift" it was a forgone conclusion.

2. The prez had one of the greatest moments yet when she spilled the nuclear beans to that british dude. Why in God's name would she be talking to him about that? Without consulting anyone as to whether or not it was advisable to tell some low level dude that we might be going nuclear shortly. She's like a middle schooler telling the boy her friend likes that she's ready to go to second base. Christ, I thought she was going to put her finger to her lips and say "Shhhh...it's a secret. Promise you won't tell."

3. Freddie Prinze Jr is successful on this show because he's barely on this show. His 2 minutes of screen time this week was in the car. If you haven't deleted it yet go back and watch him listening to Jack and Chloe discuss goings on. His eyes darting to and fro. That's the "FPJ is thinking" face. I loved it. I've never seen a dude act harder at looking like he's thinking before.

Pup wrote:The No Look Tracheotomy was what I have been looking for out of Jack all season. He did have to return to Soft Jack for a spell, but it looks like with some shock treatment coming up in the coming weeks we are in for a solid finish to the Death Count.

And that first stab by Renee...that was square in the eye, correct? How does that go about a woman scorn?

That comment's going to find it's way into the recap...no doubt. Beats what I have already written.

Yep...left eyeball for Renee. And a bit of a "squish" sound effect, too.

I'm a little more generous than Peeker. This episode was 40 minutes pure pain...KevinBob, President Taylor, Achmed Hassan (my new name...I KEEEEEL YOU!)....10 minutes great scenes with Jack and Renee. 10 minutes commercials.