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You should go for a Chrysler K-car, the swap weights on those are even more wacky! Curb weight (not swap weight) by normal sources is 2300 lbs yet the swap calculator allows 230 hp for only 281 points total. Can you say SRT-4 K-car? I knew you could.

Given that the swap calculator has been checked and approved for 2019, I guess Champcar really does like domestics.

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FYI, some swap values have been changed since last night. It appears all 1995+ integras take the Type R value, previous use the GSR 325pts., 13B RX-7's all take the 300pt. value, 944 however does not take the later 400pt value for their platform....did not look too much further however.

P.S., I'm obviously an affected team with the miata, however I am all for the platform swap being applied as the rule states, just want to see it equal across the board.

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When I checked last night, the listed VPI for an mr2 swap was 250, and the common ~190 hp V6 swap yielded +66 for 316 pts. total, even though the VPI table shows 200 for the MR2. ASSUMING THERE ISN'T A MISTAKE HERE, I guess they thought the base MR2 needed to stay at 200, but recognized that once swapped, the MR2 was undervalued.

As I’ve said before, the swap formula is a square peg trying to fit a round hole. I think changes like this (or changes to the weight table) are necessary to ‘fudge’ the points appropriately. I would appreciate word changes in the rulebook to reflect that this kind of fudging may take place.

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When I checked last night, the listed VPI for an mr2 swap was 250, and the common ~190 hp V6 swap yielded +66 for 316 pts. total, even though the VPI table shows 200 for the MR2. ASSUMING THERE ISN'T A MISTAKE HERE, I guess they thought the base MR2 needed to stay at 200, but recognized that once swapped, the MR2 was undervalued.

I know I picked my friggin' car, but they're really sticking with the theory that a 190hp v6 mr2 at 316 points isn't as fast (or faster) than a 190hp v6 240SX at 406 points? Or a 358 point Rx7 @ the same power?

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When I checked last night, the listed VPI for an mr2 swap was 250, and the common ~190 hp V6 swap yielded +66 for 316 pts. total, even though the VPI table shows 200 for the MR2. ASSUMING THERE ISN'T A MISTAKE HERE, I guess they thought the base MR2 needed to stay at 200, but recognized that once swapped, the MR2 was undervalued.

As I’ve said before, the swap formula is a square peg trying to fit a round hole. I think changes like this (or changes to the weight table) are necessary to ‘fudge’ the points appropriately. I would appreciate word changes in the rulebook to reflect that this kind of fudging may take place.

Personally, I'd like to see the opposite. Put the weights in according to the official information source then stop playing with them; that's what VPi adjustments were supposed to be for.

It would be nice to go through the swap weight list and be able to check the weights used against the "official" source to verify that the correct weight was used. For instance, it would be easy to point out that the MR2 NA and MR2 turbo should have different weights for swap purposes, and that if the proper weights were used, the VPi of the MR2 NA could remain at 200 points instead of being "adjusted" to make up for the weight "adjustment".

If the swap calculator used the proper MR2 NA weight, the 190 hp swap would add 128 points to the base 200 points, resulting in 318 points. This is almost exactly the same as the double adjusted result that enginerd got, indicating that the swap formula will do the job it was meant to do but only if it isn't messed with! These background manipulations to "fix" problems are self-inflicted! This double-dipping is the problem, not the cure!

So who cares, you say, it's the same either way but the issue is that it puts the MR2 swap lower on the steep ramp that is the essence of the swap calculator. Swap in 190 hp and the difference is only 2 points at 316 pts now vs 318 pts with the proper numbers and un-adjusted VPi; swap in 200 hp and now it's 357 points vs 452 points, almost 100 points difference! People are freaking out about 7 points yet the MR2 gets an extra 100!

Fix the problems that are caused by incorrect swap weights by using the correct weights, not by adding yet another level of "adjustment" and the swap calculator might work the way it's supposed to.