After all this time or all the coaches prep and the players efforts, these few guys seem to not carry their share of the weight.

Leftwich was signed for just this reason when Ben gets hurt. He's not supposed to join him on the bench or at the exray room.

Wallace, will more dollars make him catch or hold onto the ball better ? I hardly think so.

Colon will always be the guy that draws the flags. He's good one or two games and the rest of the time he is bad or below average.

Rainy isn't anything.

Adams is still learning but I have a feeling he will always be what we see now.

Our DB's need to have their hands tied to a football day and night until their hands can adjust to catching one. These chuckle heads can't get
an interception and getting turnovers in a high scoring league is an important part of winning.

Special teams are not special at all.

SidSmythe

11-19-2012, 10:52 AM

I think you're being too quick to judge on Adams.
Other than that I agree....would go as far to say Rainey isn't "anything" but i'd like to see him back on punts.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.

11-19-2012, 11:04 AM

I agree that it is way too early to tell on Adams. The guy is in his rookie season and has improved from the pre season where he could not block anybody. When it comes to linemen I always think of Duane Brown. In his rookie season, Harrison ate him alive. Others did too. Now, he is regarded as one of the top tackles around. The adjustment is big from college to the pros, and it takes awhile for some to get it.

Snatch98

11-19-2012, 11:55 AM

Ridiculous perspective on Rainey considering some of the returns he's had this season even if they were called back. He's also had a few significant runs and that one TD against I forget who. Adams like Rainey is also a rookie. I'm not exactly sure what sort of expectations you've had for either but they've gotta be pretty damn lofty.

Oviedo

11-19-2012, 11:56 AM

I agree that it is way too early to tell on Adams. The guy is in his rookie season and has improved from the pre season where he could not block anybody. When it comes to linemen I always think of Duane Brown. In his rookie season, Harrison ate him alive. Others did too. Now, he is regarded as one of the top tackles around. The adjustment is big from college to the pros, and it takes awhile for some to get it.

Agree. OT is one of the toughest, if not the toughest, positions in the NFL to adjust to in the NFL. I think Adams like Gilbert will be fine.

fezziwig

11-19-2012, 12:15 PM

Adams is good wth the run but bad with the pass protection. It's been that way for him in college so I'm going to guess he will be a work in progress in this area. I see Adams as the type of player that is always going to have a good game and then a bad game. He reminds me of that type of guy. Sorry if tha puts a smudge on the balck n gold eye glasses.

steelfin

11-19-2012, 12:19 PM

I think we need to try and get Rainey more involved in the game plan....

Colon is one of the bright spots on the OL. It took a few games to get used to the new position but overall he has been playing solid. He brings an attitude with him that the rest of the lineman need to have....

It is way too early to tell on Adams...but I think he will be fine....He is playing solid as well.

It would be nice if we made more interceptions, but the defense is playing lights out....nothing to complain about there. They have been shutting down opposing offenses for the last 5 weeks.

The ratbirds did nothing last night....nothing at all. The defense gave up 3 points in my book. 7 came from special teams and 3 from the Wallace fumble that was returned to the 12 yard line.

Jooser

11-19-2012, 12:25 PM

I guess Byron having a better game than Flacco, and having about the same success as Ben has had over the past 2 seasons vs. the Rats isn't good enough, yeah I guess he should have come in and lit it up, surpassing what Ben has done over the past two seasons.... I don't know, but you guys want an awful lot out of every player. What about the special teams breakdown? That't the difference in a hard-fought ball game right there!

fezziwig

11-19-2012, 01:43 PM

I'm buying into what Tomlin tells us, " the standard is the standard. :rolleyes: " It was a tall order to throw Leftwich in there against the Ravens but the guy didn't get accomplished what he is paid to do. First off let me say this, " I didn't think the Steelers were going to perform as well as they did last night. ' I already knew it would be a loss as soon as I heard Ben was out. I do however think we could have won with Batch in there. There's my 20/20 vision but again, Batch is better than Leftwich.
As someone said, you can't fault the defense because those guys showed up. Turnovers could have helped as they did for the Ravens but still the same, I can't put the loss on the D.

Was it Tomlin that didn't want to hear or admit Leftwich was injured or was it that Leftwich wouldn't admit to his injury ? No matter what the issue was, the way Leftwich was showing his pain it should have come into question.

As I said in another post, " it won't bother me that they lose because this is not their season and you can't always be on top. " I just hate seeing a part or player/coach of the team that screws it up for the guys that are busting their butts for the win.

feltdizz

11-19-2012, 01:55 PM

LOL.. Rainey hasn't shown anything? Really...

I would like to see him in space more often but I'm not ready to write him off.

fezziwig

11-19-2012, 02:08 PM

I would like to add Hood to the list of no shows. Heyward in my opinion should be starting over Hood. I see more activity from Heyward than I've seen with Hood. By the way, did Hood get injured or did the coaches finally wise up ? I also missed the injury to Redman. How did he get injured and how serious if anyone knows. tnx

papillon

11-19-2012, 02:38 PM

Colon isn't going anywhere IMO and he shouldn't, it will be great to have him Foster and DeCastro as guards, we'll need all three at some point in any given season.

Adams was drafted and expected to be a work in progress and that's what the Steelers are getting a work in progress, Gilbert went down and the Steeler had to put a player in at RT. He needs help with the elite pass rushers, but does a pretty good job against the rest of the NFL, that's coaching, weight room and effort.

Rainey has made some nice returns and he's a rookie, I don't think throw the baby out with the bath water just yet.

The defensive backs have quietly become the best unit on defense and all this without Troy Polamalu and at times Ryan Clark. Last night Keenan Lewis looked like Anquan Boldin's clothes he was so close to him and he made some nice sure open field tackles. I'm not sure what else you want from a cornerback? Well, he could be Ike who looked more like Torrey Smith's skin last night in limiting him to one catch for 7 yards. Taylor and Lewis are becoming quite a pair of cornerbacks. Ryan Clark was outstanding and Will Allen, even though his name wasn't called I don't remember anything being completed in his zip code.

One loss and many are ready to jettison players that have become better and better as the season moves on, last night while a tough loss is not the end of the season for the Steelers. They still control their own destiny and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Texans at Lions
Patriots at Jets
Titans at Jags
Bills at Colts
Steelers at Browns
Raiders at Bengals
Broncos at Chiefs
Seahawks at Dolphins
Ravens at Chargers

Everyone should hold serve that is in the playoff hunt, except for the Jets and Dolphins. This would leave the Steelers still as the 6th seed by one game with 5 to play and in a good position. The Ravens don't have an easy task at San Diego and the potential exists for the Steelers to be playing for the AFC North tie in two weeks. The Ravens have been horrible on the road like last night and will have a much better NFL quarterback to deal with next week in San Diego.

There is a lot of football to be played, the Steelers need to get into the dance with Ben healthy and then it's game on.

Pappy

flippy

11-19-2012, 03:12 PM

I wish Decastro would come back, Adams would have to miss a game because of a baby, and Foster would be forced to play RT and would take the spot and never look back.

Oviedo

11-19-2012, 03:13 PM

Adams is good wth the run but bad with the pass protection. It's been that way for him in college so I'm going to guess he will be a work in progress in this area. I see Adams as the type of player that is always going to have a good game and then a bad game. He reminds me of that type of guy. Sorry if tha puts a smudge on the balck n gold eye glasses.

We use to say that a lot about Max Starks. he was never as bad as some indicated and has saved us two years in a row. Need to just recognize that OT is one of the toughest positions in the NFL to play and except for maybe 10-15% of the starting OTs these guys are going to have bad days because they match up against the best athletes in the NFL every play.

When we draft a couple OTs in the first 10 picks of the draft then we can set high expectations on them because those are usually the only guys who can perform at that level every game.

Shawn

11-19-2012, 03:40 PM

While I agree it's early for Adams...this is consistent with his entire football career. He will have games where he looks like he gets it...then boom will get used. I have little hope it will ever be different. I believe at best Adams will play well against average DEs...and poorly against good ones.

Shawn

11-19-2012, 03:40 PM

Adams is good wth the run but bad with the pass protection. It's been that way for him in college so I'm going to guess he will be a work in progress in this area. I see Adams as the type of player that is always going to have a good game and then a bad game. He reminds me of that type of guy. Sorry if tha puts a smudge on the balck n gold eye glasses.

I think you are right on with your assessment.

feltdizz

11-19-2012, 03:55 PM

While I agree it's early for Adams...this is consistent with his entire football career. He will have games where he looks like he gets it...then boom will get used. I have little hope it will ever be different. I believe at best Adams will play well against average DEs...and poorly against good ones.

that sums up most OT's... if Adams can keep his motor churning after the initial contact he will be fine... There were a few times when he got his man up field and acted like he did his job. Maybe that worked in college or works with a mobile Ben but with Lefty you have to stay on your man a little longer.

I like Adams more than Gilbert.

NottinghamForest_UK

11-19-2012, 04:28 PM

I've been pretty impressed by Rainey myself, think some of his returns have been decent. He is a rookie after all, give the guy a chance!!

hawaiiansteel

11-19-2012, 06:15 PM

I like Adams more than Gilbert.

I'm very disappointed in the way Gilbert regressed from last season, hopefully he gets his game back on track and fulfills the promise he flashed last year.