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Why not take both? Cut or buyout KT who's set to make about $1.3M this coming season (just not sure he's got anything left to give -- we'll run into a problem if we have to lean on this guy for extended mins), replace him with MT who looks a tad small but long & very active (15 & 10 with 1.8 blks in the DL last yr) and then take McGrady with that last spot for 2G depth. Shore up the two positions that need shoring up...Just a thought. Also, I saw someone else say this somewhere and I agree -- James White's no guarantee to make this ballclub, even with the little bit of money we're guaranteeing him thusfar. He's gotta really show us something this training camp and throughout the pre-season. Showed very little in summer league. Cutting Flight loose to free up a roster spot is another option. Copeland and T-Mac might prove to be better alternatives at the 2/3 spots anyway..

I'd also continue to work the vet min. angle with DJ White's agent. Don't give up on that Glen!

Why not take both? Cut or buyout KT who's set to make about $1.3M this coming season (just not sure he's got anything left to give -- we'll run into a problem if we have to lean on this guy for extended mins), replace him with MT who looks a tad small but long & very active (15 & 10 with 1.8 blks in the DL last yr) and then take McGrady with that last spot for 2G depth. Shore up the two positions that need shoring up...Just a thought. Also, I saw someone else say this somewhere and I agree -- James White's no guarantee to make this ballclub, even with the little bit of money we're guaranteeing him thusfar. He's gotta really show us something this training camp and throughout the pre-season. Showed very little in summer league. Cutting Flight loose to free up a roster spot is another option. Copeland and T-Mac might prove to be better alternatives at the 2/3 spots anyway..

I'd also continue to work the vet min. angle with DJ White's agent. Don't give up on that Glen!

minutes and roles thats why, the last thing we need is guys who want minutes but have none for them

Chandler/Camby/Stoudemire will all play Center
Stoudemire/Anthony/Novak will all play the 4
Anthony/Brewer/Smith/Novak/Shumpert will all play the 3
Shumpert/Brewer/Smith/Kidd will all play the 2
Felton/Kidd/Prigioni/Shumpert/Smith will all play the 1 at times

I would add Malcolm Thomas as our new Jeffries or our version of Taj Gibson and keep it moving

minutes and roles thats why, the last thing we need is guys who want minutes but have none for them

Chandler/Camby/Stoudemire will all play Center
Stoudemire/Anthony/Novak will all play the 4
Anthony/Brewer/Smith/Novak/Shumpert will all play the 3
Shumpert/Brewer/Smith/Kidd will all play the 2
Felton/Kidd/Prigioni/Shumpert/Smith will all play the 1 at times

I would add Malcolm Thomas as our new Jeffries or our version of Taj Gibson and keep it moving

You've got Brewer and Shump penciled in there as if they're guarantees and they're not. Will they both make it back? Absolutely but how soon and how long it takes them to get back to 100% again nobody really knows for sure...Am I the only one who feels like Brewer making it back by the 1st game of the season is pushing it?? Even if he's able to accomplish that, how long until he's 100% or close to it? Same goes for Shump, who's eyeing a comeback sometime in Dec...The possibility of a setback for either guy needs to be part of the thought process here.. Brewer going down made me rethink things a little. Suddenly I think we may need a little more 2G insurance just in case. And who knows --- based on what I saw in that McGrady clip from last yr -- T-Mac may wind up being a better alternative to pair up with JR at the 2 than Brewer.

I like the Taj Gibson comparison for Malcolm Thomas btw. Good call. Taj might be a little taller but they're similar players..Could turn out to be similar pros.

You've got Brewer and Shump penciled in there as if they're guarantees and they're not. Will they both make it back? Absolutely but how soon and how long it takes them to get back to 100% again nobody really knows for sure...Am I the only one who feels like Brewer making it back by the 1st game of the season is pushing it?? Even if he's able to accomplish that, how long until he's 100% or close to it? Same goes for Shump, who's eyeing a comeback sometime in Dec...The possibility of a setback for either guy needs to be part of the thought process here.. Brewer going down made me rethink things a little. Suddenly I think we may need a little more 2G insurance just in case. And who knows --- based on what I saw in that McGrady clip from last yr -- T-Mac may wind up being a better alternative to pair up with JR at the 2 than Brewer.

I like the Taj Gibson comparison for Malcolm Thomas btw. Good call. Taj might be a little taller but they're similar players..Could turn out to be similar pros.

Shumpert and Brewer would get PT priority over T-Mac though which means we'll have a guy wanting minutes but where would he get them as good as he still is our Guard rotation is set, Brewer will be our Opening Night 2, Shumpert will likely be our Playoff Starting 2 even though Shumpert is out right now, Smith is still guaranteed 20-30 minutes a night as well as Kidd playing some 2.

Malcolm Thomas and Taj Gibson seem like clones to be honest I think thats why Chicago, who loved him, didnt sign him. Both about 6'9 225, energy bigs, Gibson has a better J but MT when he finds a home could develop his game I think thats the biggest thing for guys, getting that guarantee and getting comfortable and getting better every day. Look at Novak finding a home and enhancing his game, Thomas could be our new Jeffries but WAY BETTER

Olajuwon plans to work out Knicks Front

If all goes as planned, the New York Knicks will have a frontcourt full of “Dream Shakers.”

Hakeem Olajuwon, one of the greatest players in NBA history and the architect of the legendary “Dream Shake” post move, will spend several days next week training some of their players at the team’s practice facility in Greenburgh, N.Y.

Olajuwon, who will fly from his home in Texas, said he expects to work out with Amare Stoudemire, Carmelo Anthony, Tyson Chandler and Marcus Camby.

minutes and roles thats why, the last thing we need is guys who want minutes but have none for them

Chandler/Camby/Stoudemire will all play Center
Stoudemire/Anthony/Novak will all play the 4
Anthony/Brewer/Smith/Novak/Shumpert will all play the 3
Shumpert/Brewer/Smith/Kidd will all play the 2
Felton/Kidd/Prigioni/Shumpert/Smith will all play the 1 at times

I would add Malcolm Thomas as our new Jeffries or our version of Taj Gibson and keep it moving

Vets can see our roster and have an idea of what minutes are available, who's on the shelf, due back when, etc. Their agents know these things and well they are informed. They don't make choices as old as McGrady is, based on money any more, because there just won't be that pay day again, it's more about their role, the Knicks don't have to sugar coat it to him, he's been around, he sees the roster.

Vets can see our roster and have an idea of what minutes are available, who's on the shelf, due back when, etc. Their agents know these things and well they are informed. They don't make choices as old as McGrady is, based on money any more, because there just won't be that pay day again, it's more about their role, the Knicks don't have to sugar coat it to him, he's been around, he sees the roster.

Yeah, I agree with Kidd K...Tracy knows exactly what time it is with this current Knick roster, right down to the word on the street that Brewer should be back by opening night (which I maintain is a stretch and may not be in that kid's best interest). And still, he's elected to work out for the team anyway...I think Tracy and his agent might be thinking what I'm thinking: the Knicks have a couple of key injuries at SG right now and there's an opportunity to go in there and split PT with JR Smith at a position of need (possibly start at said position) on what could potentially be a championship-level ballclub. I also feel that if Tracy came in here and played well (which I think he still can -- I looked at all of the available ATL footage of T-Mac from last yr over the past 2 days -- the man can still play ball and make a difference---and believe me, this is coming from a guy that prefers young players over these older cats) he wouldn't automatically lose his job once Brewer's ready. You can make a legit case that even a 32-33 yr old T-Mac is an upgrade over Ronnie Brewer, esp. a Brewer that may not be 100%. A younger T-Mac may have cried about PT in this type of scenario years ago but I don't think that's the case anymore. This guy's made a TON of money in this league the last 15 years (what, $160-170M total, somewhere around there?). It should all be about winning now and I betcha it is.

I say go get him. If he makes waves, cut him loose. I don't think he would though (was Baron Davis a good little soldier last yr? Yes he was -- even earned himself a job within the organization in some capacity based on that professionalism). I think McGrady would help out a lot, esp. in the beginning. Getting off to a good start is imperative. T-Mac might also feel he's got some unfinished business here in NY. I really like the fit. Believe me, if Tracy didn't see opportunity here he wouldn't be working out for us. And if the Knicks didn't feel he's got something left to offer, they wouldn't have brought him in for a look. I could see him coming in, starting with the 1st unit (where JR comes off the bench in a role he's comfortable with---JR's been endorsing this move in the papers the past couple of days btw), playing well and never looking back. And if something unforseen happens (Tracy gets hurt or doesn't play as well as expected, JR gets hurt, etc.) then we'll have options with Brewer once he's back & then with Shump further down the line. This is said to be a "make-good" contract offer for T-Mac (in addition to knowing the roster, Tracy also knows that we can only offer the vet min. which doesn't appear to be a problem unlike with this dude K-Mart)...I feel there's a good chance that he'll do exactly that. Make good. He did for the Hawks last yr...No brainer for me. Get it done. He'd be a nice addition here.

i like M.T myself but Woody wouldn't give him a lick of time unless it's garbage mins + Novak, Melo, Amare, and KT will all get some time @ PF if we were to sign a PF i rather go with someone like Kenyon Martin or Amundson who's going to be guaranteed mins.

I know Woody hates young players except Shumpert but Thomas will add more to this team than McGrady will