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speaking of Boston, whatever happened to what's'his'face? guy/gal with the Auerbach avatar that was pretty good, had posts you'd stop scrolling to read once you saw the avatar, unlike mine.

If that's true, if you don't know who he is, then maybe your best course would be to tread lightly. Luckily, I know that man as cordobes, winner of the Best Non-Pacer Fan and Best International Poster awards.

I gotta give ya credit for still clinging to hope with these guys Kstat.

The Knicks-Pistons game should be a barrel of laughs Tuesday.

There's plenty of talent. The chemistry just sucks. When you're getting dunks and layups for 2/3 of the game and you still can't beat anyone consistently, there are massive communication issues on both ends.

I like Jennings more now than when we got him. He has to streamline his game, but I appreciate that he competes no matter what the score is, and he can run an offense.

When I said he earned the 14 assists, I meant it. He created at least 10 of them on his own, and they were all good plays. He has to defend and shoot more consistently, but that's always been the knock on him.

This currently isn't a good team, but that isn't the same as saying they don't have good players. It's frustrating to see them look great one quarter and terrible the next, but I do think they will get it straightened out.

Last edited by Kstat; 11-18-2013 at 05:47 PM.

It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

Interesting article that points out what a dumpster fire it is to play Josh Smith at SF with Monroe and Drummond. Seems to take the same stance many here took, adamantly opposed by KStat, very recently.

D. Pistons’ “three bigs” lineup of Andre Drummond, Greg Monroe and Josh Smith. The Pistons are force-feeding this trio, trying to get it to work, but it remains a mess on the defensive end. Check out these numbers from Sunday night: When they were together the Lakers averaged 127.8 points per 100 possessions, shot 59.6 percent, hit 7-of-13 from three, which means an eFG% of 66.4 percent, and Jordan Hill went off against the Pistons for 24 points and 17 rebounds. The Lakers were able to run that trio and just space them out with shooters and beat them, plus Piston bigs got burned on their man cutting back door all night, or they just would lose track of their man in general. On offense there is now flow or spacing with them together. This is not a new thing, on the season teams are shooting 51 percent against this trio with an offensive rating of 114.8 (for comparison, the Bobcats had the worst defense in the NBA last season at 108.9). The Pistons have other issues as well (Brandon Jennings and Rodney Stuckey don’t help the defense at all) but what happened against the Lakers is the norm right now. Is Maurice Cheeks a guy who can fix this?

The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).

Absolutely. We're terrible defensively. But the problem isn't that we play 3 bigs, it's that the communication on D is terrible. The chemistry is beyond bad. It's not necessarily guys getting beat, it's blown assignments turning into open shots. Given that Smith is easily our best defender on the floor right now, pinning this on him is flat out ignorant.

Smith is the guy that's chewing everyone else out for blowing assignments.

It's also on Mo (someone nobody here wanted them to hire), to get a defensive scheme that will work. Offensively, we're improving every game. Defensively, we've gotten worse.

And as much as bashing Josh Smith for shooting threes is popular (and usually justified), he's shooting a better FG% from the arc than any of his three backups. So please, let me know which SF on our team should be playing there instead of him for any reason.

Last edited by Kstat; 11-18-2013 at 06:52 PM.

It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

How does the fact that Smith's backups are worse three point shooters that he is justify him taking and clanking lots of ill-advised threes?

So, if Mahinmi is a terrible three point shooter, and Hibbert is better (hit a couple when the shot clock was expiring, LOL), then Hibbert needs to take a lot more three pointers....

bizarro.

Players should take the shots that are most likely to help their team win.

The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).

How does the fact that Smith's backups are worse three point shooters that he is justify him taking and clanking lots of ill-advised threes?

So, if Mahinmi is a terrible three point shooter, and Hibbert is better (hit a couple when the shot clock was expiring, LOL), then Hibbert needs to take a lot more three pointers....

bizarro.

Players should take the shots that are most likely to help their team win.

This is silly logic. You're comparing two centers to a bunch of small forwards.

Smith's three point shooting is bad, but his backups (who are paid to make those shots) have been much worse.

The point is that his three point shooting is very, very low on the list of this team's problems.

If you take out his disaster in GS where he got benched early, the other 4 games since the Indiana game he's shot an even 50% from the floor and 43% from the arc. He's absolutely getting better at taking good shots from the SF position.

Last edited by Kstat; 11-18-2013 at 07:20 PM.

It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

This is silly logic. You're comparing two centers to a bunch of small forwards.

Smith's three point shooting is bad, but his backups (who are paid to make those shots) have been much worse.

The point is that his three point shooting is very, very low on the list of this team's problems.

If you take out his disaster in GS where he got benched early, the other 4 games since the Indiana game he's shot an even 50% from the floor and 43% from the arc. He's absolutely getting better at taking good shots from the SF position.

Yeah, as much as Josh Smith should be avoiding taking threes... he doesn't have many better options when Monroe and especially Drummond are clogging the lane. The problem is the makeup of the roster, and not the individual players.

The Pistons need a trade for a legit shooter in the worst way. Personally, I like Greg Monroe's game more than I do Drummond's, but I think the writing's on the wall... I suspect Greg will get moved before the deadline this year.