Gear: SCREAMER 7/9/12/14 for Free Style. Not to forget the SCREAMER 10 LTD for my one go kite.SURF 8 & 12 for the waves. RENEGADE 6.5 and 9 for all around kiting. And some times I use my son's JUNIOR PRO 4 when it blows 45+ for the waves.Just try the EPICKITES and you will see for yourself.

Gear: SCREAMER 7/9/12/14 for Free Style. Not to forget the SCREAMER 10 LTD for my one go kite.SURF 8 & 12 for the waves. RENEGADE 6.5 and 9 for all around kiting. And some times I use my son's JUNIOR PRO 4 when it blows 45+ for the waves.Just try the EPICKITES and you will see for yourself.

Well Mr.KLK all I can say is that we always try to push the limits and enhance any thing we come up with. But some times it's so hard to improve what we have. For example I could not improve the SCREAMER 7/9/12/14 (4G), so these sizes are basically the same then the (3GII) SCREAMERS but with different graphics and few minor changes. But on the other hand, since the SCREAMER 10 LTD is our test pilot for the next generation of kites, Momi and I were able to come up with something different then the SCREAMER 10 LTD (3G II). Me personally I love the S10 (4G) because I can hold it in 35 knots compare to the S10 (3G II) in which I had a hard time holding down in 35 knots. But any way, you can't go wrong with any of these kites. The SCREAMER 10 LTD (4G) will be out in September, but you can always find some good deals on the S10 (2010/2011/3G). Same thing with any other kite brands out there.

Gear: SCREAMER 7/9/12/14 for Free Style. Not to forget the SCREAMER 10 LTD for my one go kite.SURF 8 & 12 for the waves. RENEGADE 6.5 and 9 for all around kiting. And some times I use my son's JUNIOR PRO 4 when it blows 45+ for the waves.Just try the EPICKITES and you will see for yourself.

I am sorry Mr.KLK but you are not making sense at all. From the start of EPIC kites we have been using the SCREAMER 10 LTD as a test pilot for the next generation of Screamers. The SCREAMER kites comes in 7/9/10 (which is our test pilot and its a mix of different ideas) /12/14.So if few words the SCREAMER 10 is always changing and that is why we call it LTD which in English it means "Limited Edition". I hope you get a better picture now about the SCREAMER models. Once again thank you for your time.

So I have to take back what i said about the 13m renegade ltd 4g. Once you are in winds of 12 knots or better the kite flys incredible on 22m lines. I would only ever put extensions on if it was less then that. Amazing how responsive this kite is... Even on a 48cm bar. Cannot wait for the bew bars!

KLK wrote:And if anyone can actually understand that then congratulations.

So the new Screamers are the same as the old ones, are they the same price?

If the last Screamer LTD was good enough to release as a proto for the next generation of Screamers then why aren't the new Screamers the same as the previous Screamer LTD? You see what I mean?

It's a con.

I understand your point - the 4g screamers should have more than cosmetic changes because they are to be based on the superior, previous year 10ltd (3g) Unless the 3g 10ltd has characteristics that won't appeal to the average rider, maybe?

The Epic website does NOT say that ALL the ideas that go into the S10 LTD are going to FOR SURE make it EXACTLY into the next years regular Screamer line.The KLK identity was created to stir shite and nothing more, every post in an Epic thread and 100% trolling.This is what the Epic website says about the S10 LTD:"We always have considered the Limited Edition as our concept kite for the next iteration of the Screamers. This kite is our proving ground for the future sizes."Things that work out exceptionally well, may go into the regular Screamers the next year, or may show up in all the kites....or may not.

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