Kathie Lee Gifford and Ramona Singer have a few things in common. They are both successful women working and living in New York City and they’ve both taken their love of wine to the next level by starting their own brands. But that doesn’t mean the Today show host knows who the Real Housewives of New York City star is! Gifford stopped by SiriusXM’s EW Radio for TV Editors Hour, and in a chat with Jessica Shaw and Tanner Stransky about her Gift wine brand, KLG recounted an awkward moment when Singer cornered her for marriage advice. Listen to the clip below:

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