I see it as a stereotype...Kinda like calling a polish person kilbasa guy...or a jewish person Blintz guy.

Click to expand...

The reason I'm not crazy about it is that Europeans really do use food nicknames as insults against other nationalities. For instance, Germans call Italians "Spaghetti". Not in a "just for fun" way. There are other examples that I can't remember.

The reason I'm not crazy about it is that Europeans really do use food nicknames as insults against other nationalities. For instance, Germans call Italians "Spaghetti". Not in a "just for fun" way. There are other examples that I can't remember.

Then it lends itself to call Darth Matzo guy, and LaDre then becomes Popeye's Chicken Guy.

Click to expand...

We have always had a double standard when it comes to going after players, vs. other forum members. The reason why we are here is to discuss the Pistons and the NBA. Everyone is welcome to criticize the actors in that domain. What we are not here for is member on member nonsense.

I just don't like this style of referencing people, but if you OK this then...I'll get to thinking.

Click to expand...

I really don't like the "if you ok this ..." stuff. It's childish.

I don't want to have to make a ruling every time someone comes up with a nickname for a player. I don't want to tell people what they can and cannot say on this forum about the team and players on a case by case basis. I don't like political correctness, so I advise people to avoid saying anything awkward in the first place.

We allow Bucket of Turd. We allow Charlie Garbage. Where do we draw the line? Do I have to seek out and define and explain mal-intent when it comes to naming? Who decides, me? A council? A poll?

How ridiculous do we want to make this? Do I have to ask the originator of every nickname to explain why they gave that nickname, and then judge it? Do I have to censor out nicknames that migrate over from other Pistons' fan sites after determining they are inappropriate? How much work exactly do you want me to create for myself?

I think Pizza Guy is a horrible name, it has some pathetic undertone of nationality/race to it that is lame, the name itself is absolute crap considering the name does nothing to define or explain anything about the player, good or bad, exaggerated or stated plainly.

You're asking me to start actively censoring and editing on this forum, and you should think twice before asking me to embark down that road, because I can promise you, it will destroy PF.com.

As always, I reserve the right to kick anyone, at any time, for any reason, with no explanation. So, if someone thinks they can be ~edgy~ to test me, go for it.

We have always had a double standard when it comes to going after players, vs. other forum members. The reason why we are here is to discuss the Pistons and the NBA. Everyone is welcome to criticize the actors in that domain. What we are not here for is member on member nonsense.

I really don't like the "if you ok this ..." stuff. It's childish.I didn't believe my response was childish. I simply was preparing myself for any future name-dropping.

I don't want to have to make a ruling every time someone comes up with a nickname for a player. I don't want to tell people what they can and cannot say on this forum about the team and players on a case by case basis. I don't like political correctness, so I advise people to avoid saying anything awkward in the first place.I don't believe your job is to have to make rulings. I just felt that an ethnic line has been crossed.

We allow Bucket of Turd. We allow Charlie Garbage. Where do we draw the line? Do I have to seek out and define and explain mal-intent when it comes to naming? Who decides, me? A council? A poll? We as fans have always sought to name our players based on performance or lack of it.

How ridiculous do we want to make this? Do I have to ask the originator of every nickname to explain why they gave that nickname, and then judge it? Do I have to censor out nicknames that migrate over from other Pistons' fan sites after determining they are inappropriate? How much work exactly do you want me to create for myself? Now I'm sensing a little childish complaining here.

I think Pizza Guy is a horrible name, it has some pathetic undertone of nationality/race to it that is lame, the name itself is absolute crap considering the name does nothing to define or explain anything about the player, good or bad, exaggerated or stated plainly. This is why I posted my concern...

You're asking me to start actively censoring and editing on this forum, and you should think twice before asking me to embark down that road, because I can promise you, it will destroy PF.com. Naw...Just when someone states "this is how its gonna be, end of story" those types of comments from non administrators need to be put in check

As always, I reserve the right to kick anyone, at any time, for any reason, with no explanation. So, if someone thinks they can be ~edgy~ to test me, go for it.If you wanna ban me...then go ahead. that's your choice, But that won't stop me from posting my feelings.(until you kick me off...anyways.)

We've got a good thing going here people, let's not screw it up.

Click to expand...

I've always appreciated this forum and the effort you put behind it. I'd like to think that I can disagree with you at times. When you tire of me...just send me on my way. I'll be just fine. there's gotta be an Eagle's thread I can join.

This thread was just brought to my attention. You guys really need to chill. This is getting ugly and the repercussions could be not good. . My advice is to please not say anything more on this topic.. If you're wise you won't even return to this thread. Just move on and catch your breath.

I don't want to ban anyone but I get really tired of people trying to aggravate me to prove a point. I have zero tolerance for that.

If I decide Pizza Guy is an issue, do I need to ban people for using it? Or do you want me to edit every single post? Don't run from answering this clearly and definitively. You want something done, then spell out clearly what that is. You want this to be my problem, then tell me how YOU expect me to resolve it.

Everyone should know when they cross the line. We aren't puppies and Roscoe/other mods shouldn't be expected to smack us when we are bad or cuddle us when we are hurt.

If you are going to make remarks which cross racial/ethnic/religious boundaries, do some god damn due diligence pick your words. It's really that simple. I don't really have a problem with stereotypes/religion bashing/silly names because the vast majority of it is innocent. It's born out of playfulness and not spite. But you have to define that through the tone of your writing, otherwise you just look like a tool.

The earlier example was ambiguous at best. Pizza Guy is not. We aren't calling him Pizza guy because we hate Italians. Same with bucket of turd. I don't dislike him because he has alopecia. I just think he plays basketbal like a sack of s***

The best way to avoid trouble is to use insulting words the person doesn't understand.

If you're insulting a simpleton like Laimbeer you can use any word with more than one syllable. But for most people with over a 3rd grade education you need to be more creative using words like jementous, sluberdigullion, helminth, excerebrose, cacafuego, and poltroon.

Those all fit Laimbeer pretty well too but why waste it on him when you can just as easily confuse him with "dum dum". He gets really confused with the last half of that word.

No...I just wanted your opinion...which you've stated. You apparently don't like its use either.

It's not complaining. You're complaining, and then making implicit threats that you're going to cook up offensive names if your issue isn't recognized.

Again...no threats from me. Just using examples to see how tasteless this could become. I only planned for more examples if you needed some.

I don't want to ban anyone but I get really tired of people trying to aggravate me to prove a point. I have zero tolerance for that.

Only you can choose to get aggravated, It was your choice to communicate in a parent to child style.

If I decide Pizza Guy is an issue, do I need to ban people for using it? Or do you want me to edit every single post? Don't run from answering this clearly and definitively. You want something done, then spell out clearly what that is. You want this to be my problem, then tell me how YOU expect me to resolve it.

Click to expand...

I just wanted your opinion. Didn't need you to make a ruling. You've given your thoughts on the issue. You don't like the use of the phrase. That's all I needed to hear.

If you're insulting a simpleton like Laimbeer you can use any word with more than one syllable. But for most people with over a 3rd grade education you need to be more creative using words like jementous, sluberdigullion, helminth, excerebrose, cacafuego, and poltroon.

Click to expand...

Thanks for saying all those nice things about me, Drath. You are a true fiend.

I'm not sure but I think I was the one who came up with "Pizza Guy". I'd like to apologize to pimple-faced high-school kids all over the U.S. for associating an Italian professional basketball player with their chosen vocation. Yes, it's a stupid nickname. That was the whole point.

I am a first generation ignorant American born of Dutch immigrants. Feel free to refer to me as "wooden shoe guy" or "windmill guy" - it won't hurt my feelings in the least.