I got this email via rootsweb/Debbie Kennett and thought it may be of interest!

Every little helps :-)

"The team of citizen science researchers who mined the 1000 Genomes Project data in 2012 to discover many new R1b1a2 SNPs have now embarked on a follow-up project to further refine the R1b tree. They have obtained access to a collection of 1,000 whole genome samples from British men, and they are currently mining this dataset for novel genetic variants.

Because of the scale of the project they are fundraising in order topurchase the reagents and consumables needed to develop new primer pairs andto validate novel genetic variants using DNA sequencing. Further details ofthe project can be found on this website:

The original research introduced the DF and Z series SNPs which have greatlyhelped to refine the various branches of the R1b1a2 tree. This new projectpromises to provide even greater resolution for R1b men of British origin.

A new Twitter account has been established at @dnaforum. If you are onTwitter perhaps you could help to spread the word there too.

Brian Swann kindly arranged for Andy Grierson, the UK researcher involved inthis project, to attend WDYTYA Live in February. I had the pleasure ofmeeting Andy and can vouch for his enthusiasm and professionalism.

Having a fairly strong interest in DF49 myself, I wonder if their DF49s are already included in the "R-DF49 and Subclades Project." It would be great to have an influx of 16 others to help fill in some of the significant gaps...

I had posted a question on another forum whether whole genome projects such as this 1K follow-up Project will be able to give accurate STR results. This is new territory for us, and I for one simply don't know whether the accuracy of these "next generation" tests will make STR results reliable.

Having a fairly strong interest in DF49 myself, I wonder if their DF49s are already included in the "R-DF49 and Subclades Project." It would be great to have an influx of 16 others to help fill in some of the significant gaps...

According to Andy this sample was collected in the SW of England and most of the people in the DF49 project don't live anywhere near there.

Also these 16 people must contain M222 and presumably DF23 folk in order for him to have come up with his conclusions.

Don't forget they have only started processing about 1/3rd of the kits so expect plenty more news !!!

Having a fairly strong interest in DF49 myself, I wonder if their DF49s are already included in the "R-DF49 and Subclades Project." It would be great to have an influx of 16 others to help fill in some of the significant gaps...

According to Andy this sample was collected in the SW of England and most of the people in the DF49 project don't live anywhere near there.

Also these 16 people must contain M222 and presumably DF23 folk in order for him to have come up with his conclusions.

Don't forget they have only started processing about 1/3rd of the kits so expect plenty more news !!!

Details of where the samples came from have been posted on the Genealogy-DNA mailing list.

Having a fairly strong interest in DF49 myself, I wonder if their DF49s are already included in the "R-DF49 and Subclades Project." It would be great to have an influx of 16 others to help fill in some of the significant gaps...

According to Andy this sample was collected in the SW of England and most of the people in the DF49 project don't live anywhere near there.

Also these 16 people must contain M222 and presumably DF23 folk in order for him to have come up with his conclusions.

Don't forget they have only started processing about 1/3rd of the kits so expect plenty more news !!!

I'm assuming though they didn't collect from people who just have deep ancestry in region. There's been alot of migration throught and fro England over the last 150 years so M222+ samples they have could have originated elsewhere in genealogical time.

As an example there are up to at least 12million people living in Britain who have some Irish ancestry some stage over last 170 years.

That's what I was thinking as well, Bristol's a big place and very cosmopolitan !!

King Henry II did gift the city of Dublin to the men of Bristol after the invasion. For example we see: Ralph of Bristol (died 1232) as Bishop of Kildare. Kildare is on the boundary of "M222-land" in context of pre-invasion Ireland.

Bristol was also the main port of entry to England from South-East of Ireland. Going on the 1851 census 3.4% of population of Bristol were Irish born: