From "All Out War - The full story of how Brexit sank Britain's political class" by Sunday Times political editor Tim Shipman, here is one of the concluding paragraphs of a chapter titled "Jexit" on the parliamentary Labour party's 81% vote of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn and his subsequent leadership win against Owen Smith:

"Fearing the destruction of their party, some Labour MPs begged their Conservative counterparts to hold an early general election so they could be rid of Corbyn, but the leader insisted he would not quit even if Labour lost another hundred seats. Many in Labour concluded that the only way the situation would be resolved would be for Corbyn to die, since there was no way his half a million supporters would ditch him. 'The people supporting him see him as a Christ-like figure to follow', said one Labour MP. 'If he died, those faith-based followers would not switch their allegiance to John McDonnell or Clive Lewis. There are always going to be 500,000 people in the country who are off-the-page nuts. The problem we've got is that they have all joined the Labour Party because of Jeremy Corbyn.' Another coup organiser said, 'Jeremy dying may be the only way out.'"

They presumably mean from natural causes, unlike the sympathisers of the Brighton bombers. From today's Sunday Times:"Jeremy Corbyn was arrested in 1986 taking part in a protest by IRA sympathisers to âshow solidarityâ with accused terrorists including the Brighton bomber, a Sunday Times investigation reveals. Corbyn joined a picket outside the Old Bailey to oppose the âshow trialâ of a group including Patrick Magee, who was subsequently convicted of murdering five people at the 1984 Tory party conference."

I can't understand why people can't see that he is a rather mediocre politician with feet of clay, not some new Messiah. Is it the beard? Perhaps the decline of the church has something to do with it and people wouldn't be so ready to place faith in such a person if they had a genuine religious faith.

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the claptrap that people may see Corbyn in cult-like fashion is a media creation and is not reflected in any social media outlet.

Rather those who support Corbyn discuss ad infinitum his & Labour's proposed policies. Unlike Shipman who echos the views of his foreign, non-tax paying, political manipulating boss Rupert Murdoch.

It's why I say that no matter who you vote for, if you are not outraged by a blatant partisan UK media that includes the BBC, you desire one party rule. Hence fascism beckons. But it will come not in the way it did before with a brutal mob of gangsters to enforce, rather it is with a friendly face.

As for Corbyn's alleged support for the IRA, nary a mention of Thatcher's , Major's , Blair's, Cameron's and May's support for South Africa's brutal Apartheid, the murderous Saddam Hussein (when he did what they wanted-oil), Colonel Ghadaffi (like-wise), the head lopping brutal Saudi Arabia, the mass murdering Khmer Rouge..and the list goes on and on even back to the mass murder of Indonesia Suharto who killed over a million Communist sympathizers and up to 50,000 Timorese. All actively supported openly by the above UK leaders (and more) with financial aid, weapons and intelligence.

All these leaders have the blood of millions on their hands but one of the truest sayings of the madman Josef Stalin was "one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic" still holds true.

All these murderous tyrants (and more) were actively supported and aided by Conservative (which includes Tony Blair) UK political parties.

Hence Shipman's partisan article is what it is - right-wing propaganda and the very notion he is labelled "political reporter" is a joke. He is like the entire Times and all News Corp outlets, propagandists.

Your claim of "feet of clay" has no bearing in reality and I seriously doubt you could back it up with any sensible proof. But these anti-Corbyn mantras are rolled out and repeated endlessly without a single thought put into them or any proof of such a silly claim.

Possibly Britain deserves what it will get over the next decade..a political party so powerful it cannot be challenged in any manner.
The trashing of Democracy as Putin finances 10,000s of "trolls" to do his bidding in aiding the election & elevation of European Fascist parties including Russia's financing of the Brexit campaign seems assured of success.

A weakened Europe is his desire so that he and his murderous band of Mafia thugs can be all powerful in Europe.

A dim-witted but cunning supporter in the White House who is quickly demolishing all US "checks & balances" while a stunned Democratic Party looks on and a fawning Republican Party (that did more to ensure US democracy in it's first 200 years) is cowered by the thug Trump.

A financially weakened Britain as Brexit (if it happens) is a superb outcome for Russia.

Corbyn is just an honest politician with no skeletons except the claptrap of some unfortunate decisions when younger which pale into insignificance considering what UK PMs have done for the last 40 years.

It's yet another form of Future Shock.

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hedda wrote:Your claim of "feet of clay" has no bearing in reality and I seriously doubt you could back it up with any sensible proof.
Well, I don't believe that, in an as yet imperfect world, someone who is prepared to sacrifice another person's future on the altar of their own political ideals (while denying them the opportunity they received themselves) is a paragon of virtue.The Guardian: MP and wife split over school

Of course The Sunday Times is going to be biased, but the author is quoting Labour sources above and it was 81% of Labour MPs who voted in the no confidence motion. They couldn't all have been doing Rupert Murdoch's bidding.

"All Out War is the title of Tim Shipmanâs excellent account of the referendum that led to the UKâs part in this wretched prospect (there seems to be no one to whom he hasnât spoken and whose motives he does not pretty accurately portray and understand), and it is a war that has continued well beyond 23 June."

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Jo wrote:I can't understand why people can't see that he is a rather mediocre politician with feet of clay, not some new Messiah. Is it the beard? Perhaps the decline of the church has something to do with it and people wouldn't be so ready to place faith in such a person if they had a genuine religious faith.

Not entirely surprising, Jo

These are "kiddies" who are easily manipulated and have no knowledge of history.
They fall for simplistic slogans (especially ones they want to hear! No tuition fees !! HaHa).

They are not sophisticated enough to see that behind the brand / persona there is an evil machine whose bully boy tactics are directed by people who would feel very at home in the Nazi party.

They are just like these "Stop The War" coalitions who bus in hundreds of people to demos (free "day out" !) so they can claim there is popular support (always forgetting that when they give them all identical placards to wave it gives the game away!)

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