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* Located on November 2, 1994 in Woodbridge, Middlesex County, New Jersey.

Vital Statistics

* Estimated age: 44 - 54 years old (when found) 55 - 70 years old now
* Approximate Height and Weight: 5'2"- 5'4"; 135 - 145 lbs.
* Distinguishing Characteristics: Black hair; brown eyes.
* Scars / Tattoos: She has a scar on her abdomen.
* Clothing: She was wearing what may be a wedding band in addition to another gold ring

Case History
Amnesia victim was located wandering the Woodbridge Mall on November 2, 1994 in Woodbridge, New Jersey. In 1994, during a conversation, she stated that her name was Elba Leonor Socarras. She is Spanish-speaking and when she was found, she was well groomed and in good health. She is currently suffering from Alzheimer's disease and is unable to give any information that will aid in her identification. She has also mentioned the name of "Alba" and may also be associated to the name of "Altagracia Alvarez".

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I am a resident of NJ and if this has not been checked out by LE Here I want new LE, ASAP. I think its unlikly this is a match. As my suspicion is that the women found at Woodbirdge Mall is not really a missing person but a dumped person. As awful as that sounds I suspect her family dumped her there when her care got to be to much. She can't identify herself and the family isn't going to come forward. Very sad case.

I realise that the Camden Sherrif's Office is the source for both reports, therefore the records should have been checked. It is possible that the report on Elba being missing was placed at a later date, even though they entered the correct missing date, and that's why it didn't come up as a match.

I emailed the New Jersey State Police as they have an email link on the Amnesia victims page. I have already got an automatic response confirming they have received the email.

mjak your comments are valid. Dumping of people who have progressed too far for the care givers to handle is sadly common place, in all communities.

In the event this is not a match then we continue searching for their identities. If it is a match then two more people have been identified.

I think its also possible that people haven't suggested this match because they are concerned the family will be placed in an untenable position.... what if that's wrong and one or both family's would like to know what happened to their loved one?

I don't think its up to me to judge the situation as I don't have enough information. All I'm doing is trying to match some missing people to people who have been found.

mjak your comments are valid. Dumping of people who have progressed too far for the care givers to handle is sadly common place, in all communities.

In the event this is not a match then we continue searching for their identities. If it is a match then two more people have been identified.

I think its also possible that people haven't suggested this match because they are concerned the family will be placed in an untenable position.... what if that's wrong and one or both family's would like to know what happened to their loved one?

I don't think its up to me to judge the situation as I don't have enough information. All I'm doing is trying to match some missing people to people who have been found.

I wasn't critizing your efforts. I was just stating my thoughts. Sorry if I upset you . As I think its important that all potential leeds are checked into. Keep on doing your sleuthing.
mjak

maybe not reported as missing?

If the scenario of this person being dumped,then the family probably would not have reported them as a missing person and therefore there may not be any missing person listed to match the UID with.I believe that some UID's can be matched but either stats are off or where the UID is found is so far from where they should have been that a lot of these are ruled out when it really could be them.But I believe in a lot of cases there are not missing persons reports done on a lot of these,especially if a family member or boyfriend/girlfriend/parent/spouse were the one who did the crime.just my opinion on why there are so many UID's

Hispanic, non- english speaking.
Is it possible that she was not reported missing, because she was an "undocumented" ie illegal resident?

Is there any Mexican missing persons sites?
Someone might refer this one to Kelly.

Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?

"Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

BabyDust its also possible that some UIDs have been reported missing, but that information has not been released to the public. Its only in the last few years that a viable way (the internet) has been available for the public to access.