The rppm trinkets like wushoolay still have plenty of rng after the changes. I've had 4 procs back to back and other times no procs for a good few minutes. Even on pulls sometimes it just doesn't proc for quite a while

It probably feels like fishing for crits. And the new RPPM trinkets adding another layer of "fishing" for fire mages...

Fire is already really rng, especially for casuals who only have LFR gear and VP gear.
Adding another huge RNG to that with RPPM trinkets is just meh...

I've read that Blizzard made RPPM trinkets because the previous trinkets feel "boring".
But I personally don't feel that way.
Because keeping track of your trinkets CDs, and holding back that pyro proc if your trinkets are about to come off from CD to use it for PoM+AT,
is pretty fun.

RPPM trinkets just adds another RNG headache...

---------- Post added 2013-03-26 at 05:46 PM ----------

I got the LFR Breath of Hydra trinket so I've tested it for a few mins.
There were quite some depressing moments where the BoH trinket didn't proc at all while Shadow Pan Assault trinket proc'ed "twice".
Then after that I got a back to back proc from BoH, but then I couldn't get any good ignites. Like below 20k ignites while the BoH proc was up.

I know my crit is low for fire since the CM nerf (its currently 33.5% with personal buffs),
but still pretty disappointing results.
I'd probably stick with the Shadow Pan Assault trinket and Relic 484 upgraded trinket.
It feels much more reliable.(at least for fire)
Because you know when it would likely to proc, while the RPPM trinkets might not proc for mins.

Maybe I just have really bad luck... like i do with rolls etc.
I've experienced only 10% of my fireballs critting on a boss fight even though I had 30%+ crit rating.
I guess its something like getting gold bags week after week in LFR and world bosses =/

I am at the point where I am going fire so I am still trying to figure out what the best trinkets are for this spec, rather not try to switch between different ones, but so far not a total senses on what is best. I am assuming Cha-ye but the other ones are a toss up for me.

Our friendly neighborhood Affliction Warlock (guildie) says that Unerring Vision of Lei Shen suddenly is really good for him because its ICD procs off multiple targets. Has anything about that trinket been changed?

nothing as it proc on damage so multi-doting will increase the chance to proc but also lowering the proc rate with a lower time_since_last _chance. So it can really boost proc chance on multi-dot past some point

Yes, it is a very small set of data to determine the pattern of Wushoolay's but as mentioned earlier in this thread Wushoolay's performs better than Breath of the Hydra in multi target fights i.e. (Horrido, council, Primordius, Dark Animus, Possibly Megaera)

I think we can safely say Cha-ye is our BiS and debate can be made for Breath vs Wushoolay's....

I also tested BotH(522) and I could say it is still very rnd at the moment. Yulon(484) and LotcH(510) are very reliable. I saw in my logs that Yulon's uptime is almost twice longer than BotH(522)... It is very annoying, altough I have done more deeps with new trinket.