i've been looking forward to this movie soooo much. if it's actually confirmed that spock yells out "kkhhaaannn"!!!

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Enjoy your re-runs then. But for those that are new to the franchise he's one of the best villians in all of Trek Lore - and much better than the Borg IMO.

I think the story will play out great and Abrams homage to old and new Trek. To new and old fans alike.

I suppose you also liked Enterprise finale, These are the Voyages?

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You know, if he does in fact yell it out similar to Kirk in TWOK, it actually makes sense even within the context of the current film. They mention in the spoilers how he is fighting with his emotions over the death of Pike, and over the loss of Vulcan. This last death will be what pushes him over the edge, and this is his way of showing that.

Really, of all the stupid shit Star Trek has pulled off over the years, THIS is what we're going to bitch about? Genetically engineered blood? Really? I swear to god I've been watching a different franchise then the rest of you.

i've been looking forward to this movie soooo much. if it's actually confirmed that spock yells out "kkhhaaannn"!!!

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Enjoy your re-runs then. But for those that are new to the franchise he's one of the best villians in all of Trek Lore - and much better than the Borg IMO.

I think the story will play out great and Abrams homage to old and new Trek. To new and old fans alike.

I suppose you also liked Enterprise finale, These are the Voyages?

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was never really emotionally invested in "enterprise" so having the tng influence in the finale didn't really bother me one way or the other.

j.j. and crew went so far out of their way to establish a new universe and opportunities for the reboot that it just seems like a total cop-out to rehash the khan character. even if it is a different story.

j.j. and crew went so far out of their way to establish a new universe and opportunities for the reboot that it just seems like a total cop-out to rehash the khan character. even if it is a different story.

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Can you think of any better villian in the entire history of the franchise than Khan? Even the Borg - which at one point were great villians - were completely defanged by the end of Voyager.

now using section 31 and a rogue admiral marcus is a cool plot move.

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One of the great parts of section 31 IMO is it portaryed a more realistic version of any large military organization where some people have an alternative and often darker agenda. The real life parallel in the US of course is Gitmo and torture.

Star Fleet up until they introduced section 31 in DS9 was essentially a bunch of unrealistic goodie two shoe characters prancing around the galaxy proclaming how superior their values were - which of course isn't a realistic version of how people are in real life.

How is that more ridiculous than a magic torpedo that creates entire terraformed planets out of thin air and regenerates Spock? Your sense of perspective is totally off.

How is the regenerative properties of the blood at all inconsistent with what we have seen in the Augments arc on Enterprise? There, Augment DNA performed all kinds of miraculous feats like drastically changing the bone structure of Klingons in minutes and was originally intended to increase their strength, speed, stamina, and survivability. So, having some regenerative capability, especially with cells damaged by radiation as opposed to someone being blown apart by a phaser, seems plausible in Treknological terms. They're not Wolverine level regenerative, and can still be killed, but they can recover from disease, radiation, and things that leave the body mostly intact.