Do NOT tell me that none of these people were “vigilantes” who “committed murder” -—

Blood is on the hands of ALL of the above.

I do not defend this action, I do not support the shooting of George Tiller.

However, I understand it, I predicted it, and it is utterly logical as an outcome -— for a society that will not allow such monsters as Tiller to be restrained, BY THE LAW, to be dealt with outside the law, by the impatient or the unbalanced.

The difference between the left and the right, when it comes to the use of violence, is profound.

The Left has, through out history, killed, kidnapped, bombed and shot innocents who were only vaguely connected to the “White Establishment” or the “Military Industrial Complex” etc.

The left, of course, is protected by the MSM.

Still, we can STOP apologizing for the predictable and the inevitable, when someone on “our side” does something wrong!(I DO NOT CLAIM THE SHOOTER, but the left will lump him or her with me)

Just saw this on Fox News. Wow. This will not help the pro-life cause. In highschool, I remember saying the rosary outside abortion clinics. Sometimes we saw women turning away from going inside. Changing hearts is the key...not this barbarity.

I’m going to get attacked for the following, but here goes:
1. I am not religious at all.
2. I do not think abortion is right(yes, I made my own mind up on this decision-—without spiritual guidance).
3. However, for those of you who are Christians, here is where I do not understand your position: Clearly, without a doubt, killing someone on the street is murder. But, if you really believe that abortion equates to the murder of unborn children, would you not do everything in your power to stop a person who performs abortions? If an unborn child in the womb equates to a child on the playground-—why wouldn’t you, with great haste, kill the person who performs abortions-—like you would a madman on the playground hacking kids with a machete?

The person who did this is not pro-life, anti-abortion perhaps, but still pro-murder. The tide was turning in our favor, and some deranged lunatic had to give the media the spark they need to raze a decade of our successes in changing public opinion. This is not even a case of winning a battle but losing the war - it was just a total loss, with the creation of a new secular saint.

In a culture marked by disgust for profiling on the basis of thousands of data points, there is unfortunately a tendency to support profiling on the basis of a single or very small number of politically-correct data points (Christian leaders and outspoken conservative Republicans are sex-crazed homosexual child-molesting drug-addicts, 2A proponents are violent paranoid anti-Semitic serial-killers-in-training, pro-lifers like to bomb abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors, etc etc). Fewer will want to identify with a movement made out, by the media, to be intimately connected with shooting doctors or bombing clinics. This is a sad day for the life of one adult plus his family, AND a sad day for the thousands of additional unborn children murdered because thousands of minds will be turned by this demented act.

Are you assuming this individual is indeed a rightwinger, thus inherently extremist? Hell, they have not even caught the suspect yet. I didn't assume anything, did you catch the word "if" that I used several times? But yes, if he is a rightwinger he IS an extremist, inherently so since he just shot someone to death. Frankly, I was hoping it was a woman who he had committed infanticide on who couldn't deal with it anymore, but the description of the perp sure doesn't sound like it.

Gun control for right wing groups (if thats the shooter) might flare up....more survellience of pro-life groups that sort of thing...

Exactly so, they are already surveiling anti tax protestors. I know that for a fact because some clown in a suit with an earpiece took my picture. The left has fascist tendencies. And this will encourage them further with the help of an overheated MSM.

We know each other well enough over the years for you to know I am pro life no exceptions. It's my faith. But God told us not to murder. I don't spin those words. Tiller got what he well deserved I suppose but imo it will do harm to the pro life cause with young folks who are trending our way. You can't be pro life and murdering folks on the steps of their Church on Sunday no matter how despicable the folk are.

The bottom line is this, no babies will be saved because of Tiller's murder.

agreed. It is strange it happened right when the majority of Americans have been polled as pro life. That is not helpful in getting pro abortion measures through. Now many will not want to associate with a pro life group, assuming this maniac was a pro life vigilante. I will wait and see just who and why this murder was committed. Prayers for those who are suffering for this loss.

Tiller was in my prayers briefly each day. It is sad that a church would not have helped this man to rethink his life’s work, but this is the way the devil works. I am very sorry for this whole situation, including the federal government’s endorsement of murder.

I hope you understand what a horrible thing this is for everybody and what a massive setback this is for the pro life cause. I further hope you understand how your sympathetic comment starting the thread is highly regrettable.

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posted on 05/31/2009 10:32:44 AM PDT
by Minn
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I don’t care what the liberal media says about the right. That time passed a long time ago. It’s time for the right to stand up and stop being shrinking violets, and talking a good line but doing little.

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