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I'm planning to change my two year worn targas for new bindings. I narrowed my options for 2012 Targas or Cartels re:flex. Unfortunatelly I don't have any knowledge about burton re:flex tech so can't make up my mind. Can you recommend me sth? Which one will be beter?

I'm looking for one binding for NS Raptor and NS SL.

Thanks, Lucas

I have the Cartels - they are wicked bindings. Apparently the re:flex is a step up helping with torsional flex of the board (don't quote me on that - I kinda stopped listening as I don't want two pairs of Cartels) (I also have some Rome Arsenal - great too!)

I say try the Burtons as you've already ridden Rome! You won't be disappointed!

08-25-2011 08:01 PM

jojotherider

I think Burton boots also use a smaller footprint somehow so I'd think the s/m would be fine. but as was mentioned ^^^right there ^^^ bring them in and try it out. That's what I did.

I will say that it was kind of a pita to set them up that first time. There's so many different things to change. I've got two boards right now and I miiiight pick up another set so I don't have to keep swapping them back and forth. at the same time, i might consolidate down to a single board so best to wait.

-joel

08-10-2011 10:04 PM

CheeseForSteeze

Take your boot to the shop and fit it into a demo pair. They should let you.

08-10-2011 07:31 PM

chupacabraman

Yeah the fit is defnitely going to vary from boot to boot. If you're in that 9-10 range I'd highly recommend checking the fit in person first, before buying online if that's the plan.

08-10-2011 05:15 PM

embrion

Dunno about S/M but L/XL fit just fine my 9.5 Vans Aura...and they're definetly not on the shortest setting possible.

Get the S/M binding for your 9.5 Burton boots. I had size 10 Burton Ions last year, with the L/XL Targa binding. I had the straps on the shortest setting possible, and was almost maxing them out when I cranked them down (I should mention I do crank them down pretty hard though). There was also about 1/2" of extra width in the baseplate. You want the S/M. Sounds crazy, but it's right.

Thanks.. If I switch to another brand of boot that doesn't have Burtons shrinkage tech would I have to worry about them fitting the S/M?

08-06-2011 01:19 AM

chupacabraman

Get the S/M binding for your 9.5 Burton boots. I had size 10 Burton Ions last year, with the L/XL Targa binding. I had the straps on the shortest setting possible, and was almost maxing them out when I cranked them down (I should mention I do crank them down pretty hard though). There was also about 1/2" of extra width in the baseplate. You want the S/M. Sounds crazy, but it's right.

08-05-2011 10:02 PM

Chef Jer

I am pretty set on getting '12 Targas this fall. However, I am in between sizes... I currently use Burton Rulers size 9.5. As the Burtons use shrinkage tech would I be better off getting L/XL to give more length on the straps...or would I be better off with S/M to have less room around the boot?????

08-05-2011 03:01 PM

david_z

the toe straps on the '12s are sick.

08-05-2011 01:32 PM

CheeseForSteeze

The onset of plastic deformation occurs at the plastic strength, versus the yield strenth where deflection doesn't result in permanent deformation. This has to do with the imperfections in the grain structure and whether or not they have slipped past each other in order for boundaries to act like microscopic ratchet teeth and maintain the new shape. Steel has a much higher margin between its yield and plastic strengths whereas aluminum has relatively little. Worked aluminum, such as in heel cups, while ductile relative to polymer injected materials, is fairly brittle as aluminum goes leading to a higher ultimate strength (breaking strength) and higher yield strength but reduced margin between the yield and plastic strengths. This is why they are tough to bend but when they bend, they don't go back. There are levels of stress where the bindings would bend back (yield strength but less than plastic strength). It's just a narrow margin.

The Targas are good. I bought 10/11's but since it's almost shopping season for 2012, you should wait and get the 11/12's because they apparently have a lot of little improvements with the toe cap and ratchets/ladders. They aren't super buttery, but I find them good nuff for jibbing and buttering. Of course, they are good for riding all mountain. Take the time to really dial them in to fit your boot. It can make a lot of difference. Do all the adjustments, rotate the highbacks all that jazz because it makes the transfer of forces into the deck much more direct and helps with feedback.

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