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... I ... I can cholesterol drugs will be ... a need not be the still fumbling we thought they were when it comes to heart disease and Christopher Weaver ... is a health reporter he's joined us right now ... as well as Dr Stephen Cox XT is a cardiologist at the Mayo clinic we both of them here thanks so much crisper I wanna start with you first up ... is a little bit about why ... you know people's doctors and had them on this sort of vitamin B niacin for so long thinking that this was ... part of a heat treatment for heart disease ... what's changing about this ... sure so ... close to offer next heart disease in two ways ... LDL or bad cholesterol is not good ... HDL good cholesterol supposed to cut your total ... allowable by removing some of the bad cholesterol there are various ... op ... this is been said noting that the genealogy for years that have acquitted given high levels of HDL a great ... the problem is the drug companies keep coming up with medicines that might raise HDL but they don't do anything in terms of pure longer term risk of ... heart attack concern studies are starting to show this right now sure there is a study just last month American shows that ... the combined is that which is a contract that includes looking toward cuts LPL right ... didn't do any better when you when you add a nice time ... so ... let's talk about the signs of this HDL the good cholesterol we know the sort of works by ... varying the heart of our fearing that cluster away from artery walls into the liver why is raising its not ... working is it because this is medically induced of good cholesterol and not and that is not as powerful as an actual class for all what is the theory on this ... will will will the older years old and we know the ratio is different components so you do one brings them to another ... and the thing you mention which is to clean our uses only one part of the ATO ... so we've always assume that raising your HBO will help you clean it attorneys ... sometimes these medicines may raise in ... pay raise the steel that doesn't do that ... Chris ... arts backgrounds and people are now seen as one and whether ... this B vitamin niacin is ... is ... Wednesday taking a knock ... on things like exercise eating ... I think you could do if you're drinking and they really can help that happen within tells about some of the stature and you know with all the same litany of things that help improve heart health in general right exercises good diet is going ... on if you smoke quitting smoking is great ... moderate alcohol use also increases HDL of that ... Kopecky I mean that the King is as much as we know and we hear over and over again about ... exercise and diet and all the important things at Christmas to St Canada day taking a drug is often a lot easier and faster for people ... where do we go from here with these drugs ... yet it's it's the American way is to really make yourself feel better global where to go with the strokes will first go weekly to realize that Foley Shield is not necessarily going to ... be we do these deals we get up by exercising by stopping smoking losing in Canada's body blows and tricks that diet ... that does helps ... secondly is you are in a just and its ... use of the most and it's very hard to an address to the epic shows benefit stories can be difficult for all the strokes going full ... in Chris's quickly before we got some other companies and signs that the benefit of being affected by this latest these latest findings ... I just to copper and brass camo sure I mean that the latest findings December had to do with Knight's into bonds that its ... drug companies have also been working on this thing but it's ETP inhibitor ... tend to increase the level of cholesterol ... in the problem and are focused on this that Wells had a great instead of a miracle in progress ... they ... they don't have to call the rest the way they may be knocked down by about one-third and still two-thirds left the company see a big opportunity I get that tight important mission for any body was fighting or wants to be