What are the chances that your source leaks you just 1 scene out of all the season, the most jaw-dropping scene, but nothing at all about the rest of the season? Like from all the 360 scenes the leaker could have known, he/she tells Friki exactly the scene with Tyrion being judged a traitor

...with dialogue and everything.

Just trying to make sense of all the Friki leak. He doesn't have to sell it to me (as many of you seem already sold), but he makes it clear that he doesn't know what any other scene is. He doesn't know what happens to Daenerys or Jon. He SUSPECTS they survive together. He doesn't know what happens to the Night King. He doesn't know who gets to live in the end, though he does say that he knows the characters in the Tyrion trial scene and we asume they make it to the end. He doesn't even know who they all really are, which in my opinion excludes him getting a script page because that would have had names on it.

Let's just think about it. What are the possibilities for his source??

A human. Someone who has previously leaked information to him. Should we assume a dialogue like: -Hey, please tell me something about Season 8. -Ok, because you asked me so much, I will tell you. But only 1 thing, 1 scene. You can't ask me anything else, I won't tell you. I won't tell you who survives and what happens, but Tyrion is a traitor and he will be judged by these characters in the dragon pit, Bran will know everything he has said and done, he'll have a breakdown, say "they deserved it", fall on his knees and cry.-Can you tell me anything about Daenerys and Jon?- No, fook you!

It's not definitely a human as we can't really make that asumption. But somehow he seemed to get information before the episodes aired last years. Could he have seen the scene filmed? He seemed to recognize the actor dressed in golden armour who he thinks is from the Golden Company OR the Heir to Dorne. But did he recognize him cause he has seen the footage or just cause someone had posted a picture of him here on freefolk? Is footage really that unguarded that Spanish people have really gotten their hands on it before it was even edited? Cause Frikidoctor sure wasn't at the scene when it was actually filmed.

He has an outline or a script. Like I said above, not knowing the names of the people there makes this seem very hard.

Even if he does indeed have it from a trustworthy source, it's fishy that this is the only scene that he has gotten. Why just one scene and no more info? Is the source a dick or something that doesn't want people on freefolk to know more?? At first I thought Friki spoiled that scene because he has found out the entire season. But it was made obvious from his comments that he is in the dark about anything else. So, what are the chances that he got his hands on the scene that just "breaks the internet", in his own words? It's probably the defining scene of the season or even the series.

And the fact that this theory about Tyrion betraying has circulated on this sub for an entire year (there was even this supposed leaker who said Tyrion begins to sing "Rains of Castamere" while betraying Jon in Winterfell and allowing the Golden Company in through the crypts) and Frikidoctor having adhered to the Tyrion traitor even before the leak makes me have even more doubts. Yes, at first he did think it was Sansa and Tyrion betraying together and now he says Sansa is honest, but something still doesn't feel right.

All this just having started 1 year ago from ONE GAZE at the end of last season. That's it, one gaze! At first it was just strange, then it became a joke, then a meme about Tyrion betraying, then people have dozens of threads trying to show how tidbits of Tyrion's betrayal were in the show, but I am not convinced at all.

I didn't get any vibe of that whatsoever and found nothing suspicious in the way his conversation with Cercei ended. They wanted to make a surprising moment for her agreeing to pledge her troops, so they cut the dialogue and went straight to her arriving to the Dragon Pit with Jon and Daenerys (and the audience) unsure of what she'd say.

To me, all this is just fanfiction spread from that one gaze at the end of last season, which we don't even know what was about.

Why would they film such a key scene in front of people that are not that close to the show? My first thought is that someone will talk. (ETA: My assumption based on the limited scope of this leak and IIRC, previous filming leaks coming from extras.-maybe those were fleaks)

I'm just pointing out that Lads had to be someone close to the production, not just a random extra. So it does happen.In the case of Friki's leak, though, my guess would be that it was someone close to the production that works in Spain only. I'm sure with the size of all this, there are companies that they regularly hire in the countries they work in for just production there.

I was thinking not about Friki, but about all of the people who claim to have leaks because they know someone who worked on the show in some minimal capacity (extra, cleaner, etc.), but I guess those are fleaks and not real leaks.

His source probably is a spanish human being involved in the filming of Italica.

Yes, jvlealc pointed that possibility a few minutes back too. I will tell you exactly what I told him:

If it is just 1 guy claiming this and not the same source that provided him correct info last years, then I can't see how he can claim he's 100% sure of the leak and that the guy isn't just full of sh*t and lying

I'm not entirely sure I'm following your logic here. Are you saying that for the most secret scene in season 6, where at most 2 extras are needed to play guards (after having signed agreements to not disclose information) and maybe 2 staff members involved who are not from the usual filming team, HBO has hired exactly Frikidoctor's friend/relative from Spain???

I mean it isn't super likely but it is a possibility, especially if Friki has connections to the local film industry. I think you're underestimating the amount of people that would be involved in an on a location shoot too. A lot goes into shooting in a place like that, from the crew to security there would be a lot of people on the ground.

But it does raise the question. Why shoot such a pivotal scene in a location like that. It would be much easier to keep things underwrap if they filmed on a closed set, in the studio in a location that didn't require a lot of post production. Maybe it's fake, maybe they needed an open area so Drogon can fly down and eat Tyrion. Who knows.

Ugh. How has it come to this? We beg for leaks, and as soon as we get them, people have to start campaigning against them. Who the fuck cares? It's either true or it's not. If you don't buy it, cool. But why is it so important to try and suck the joy out of the people who do? Why do you take it so personally? What do you win if you're right? We won't know until the show airs, and then it won't matter, anyway. Is it that important to be able to strut around the sub eight or nine months from now, reminding everyone that you never bought into those fake leaks that nobody cares about anymore? I've never seen such toxic misery in a place supposedly devoted to a fandom. Everything sucks, everyone's lying, it's all terrible, nothing's as good as it was before. Don't you guys ever get sick of being so negative?

Dude then try and pose real objections not the moronic "what are the chances someone leaks one scene" bs. Come on even someone with half a brain could work that one out. Then when someone points out the very obvious to you, then you decide to shift the goal posts to but how can we trust that source anyway. You aren't adding to the discussion at all.

That’s what annoys me the most, is that when people go such great lengths to deny the credibility of someone who’s been proven to be pretty damn credible simply because they don’t like the material, even something as foreshadowed as Tyrion’s betrayal. If Frikidoctor had said that Tyrion lives out the rest of his days as Jon/Dany’s pet like he has been for the past two seasons, would people be objecting like this?

I will never understand why people try so hard to figure out a reliable leaker’s source. If you want the spoilers to continue, it’s best not to have public discussions trying to figure out the identity of those sources. You never know who is reading. Friki’s track record speaks for itself. His information has been accurate in the past. Of course you can question his spoilers and choose not to believe them. But this constant need to try to figure out his sources is just dumb and potentially dangerous.

Even if it is a different source, I would expect Friki has been doing this long enough to decipher which sources he can trust. I feel like he wouldn’t put his reputation on the line if he wasn’t sure of his info. Maybe I’m wrong. But I can speak to my own personal experiences spoiling for a different show. We use multiple sources and have developed processes to determine if information we’ve received is accurate and it’s worked out pretty well so far.

I feel confident that Friki knows what he’s doing and has the same processes in place to ensure the information he‘s dispensing is accurate. Maybe it does turn out wrong? A curveball is always possible and that’s why keeping an open mind is great. But I feel like Friki does believe his info and source. So this is not a case of him purposely throwing out false info or anything. If Friki felt something was off with this source, I think he’d tell us.

I initially thought the same as you, but then... My guess is that his source is someone of clothing, or filming, or...an extra...I mean, someone Spanish. That's why he knows about the Dragonpit scene, because his source was involved in that unique scene which was filmed in his country

If it is just 1 guy claiming this and not the same source that provided him correct info last years, then I can't see how he can claim he's 100% sure of the leak and that the guy isn't just full of sh*t and lying

He has more than one source, at least two. And the two of them are telling him the same thing. I think that one of them mentioned the golden armor and the other one the golden clothes. That's the only difference between the two

Yeah, I understood that part too. But having not one extra, but 2 in the dragon pit at the time of Tyrion's trial scene who were able to confirm him??? Foook that! There is no way HBO had outsiders there for such a scene. Anyone there was an important character or very important camera opertaor. Maybe there were 2-3 extras as guard, but they probably swore on their families that they won;t spill the beans. And more importantly, signed an important paper that they won;t.

And Friki having 2 of these to come out and confirm to him that dialogue?? No way.

Oh, that someone saw the character from the Golden Company filming or walking on the streets in Seville is another thing.

Haha, all right, all right. I am as skeptical as you for many reasons, it's just that Friki says that the only way in which he could be wrong is that HBO actually deceived him. Considering it is the last season of the biggest TV show, I think it is plausible. If it helps you, it's as if HBO wanted that leak out there and Friki's information differs from that of Boatsexbaby, who is also reliable. Also, there's another user who is totally sure Tyrion's trial is not happening

I had a leaker source in another fandom several years ago. They only told me info in bits and spurts or not at all. The source chooses what s/he wants to say, and their knowledge is limited by what part of production they’re in. It’s not that hard to understand.

Sources are under zero obligation to share anything. They share what they want and you can take it or leave it. But the person they’re leaking to has no power or right to demand they tell anything more than they want.

No it’s not. It would be perfectly reasonable for the source to say, “I’ll give you one great scoop, but I’m not sharing everything.” Their reason could be that they don’t want to make it obvious who they are or they don’t want to spoil the whole show or they want to dole out the leaks in order to stay relevant. I mean, that’s kind basic human behavior.

If the Tyrion betrayal is such a big deal, then why would they film it around extras, or locals not close to the show? Someone is sure to talk. (ETA:My assumption based on the history of previous filming leaks coming from extras- IIRC- maybe those were fleaks)

I do think that Friki has a source and that this source saw what he saw. However, I don't trust the show. I think something could have been staged for inquiring minds. We did see them dress the Shae actress one year for fun.

I said I do think he has a source. (ETA: I was just spelling out exactly what I think to be extra clear because people on this forum like to put words into my mouth, or attribute ideas to me that I did not say.)

Imma let you carry on with your leaks, but please don't spread fake news in my name. I clearly said 'Joe filmed in Seville' - Source. I did not mention the Dragonpit at all for Joe (or any other actors for that matter).

I have mentioned it multiple times in my posts. Italica is HUGE and the Amphitheater/Dragonpit is only one part of it. The whole of Italica (except the Theatre) was shut down from May 3rd- May 18th. Here is the complete diagram for the ones who didn't know.

The Spain filming was odd all around. It has been suggested that actors were flown to Spain to attend a documentary or for some kind of ploy to throw us all off. Kit was reportedly in Spain but did not film. If that is all true, then is it much of a stretch to think that a fake scene would be filmed to "throw people off" ?

Exactly. Seems to me, everyone is there already, and are being paid anyway. I guess if the workers are just getting paid for hours worked then any extra working hours will cost additional money. However, they have deleted scenes each year anyway, so what's the big deal to a few extra? They could always put it in the Blue Ray Set for a "bonus." They are doing some real scenes, so the set is there and paid for as well.

Doesn't seem so clear cut to me. Why was the waif actress in Seville? For a documentary? Why not invite characters who were more central to the story? Where's LF, where's Ned, etc.? Was she filming a real scene, or just there to pull our leg?

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