Kuester, no matter what, will not use logical rotations. This game, he left out Maxiell, a guy who could have physicaled up some on Boozer. Bad move. All that time Rose got inside - how about having your best guy inside to help make that a bad idea. We already were without Ben Wallace, so you sit JMAX all nite? Basically, Kuester does not show he has a clue what it takes to win an NBA game. Certainly not the non-existent D CV played.

Further problems. Without bringing the starters back in much in the first half - our bench, which we needed to win this one, was overplayed.

Sure, getting Monroe big minutes is nice - but that many? Playing the whole first half almost without rest - then most of the 2nd half too. That is not going to win games.

And how about Wilcox. Sure, he had a nice game - to start. But why leave a guy out there that long who has seen so little action this season. The idea is to let him contribute to a win.

Just basically a messed up rotation. No excuse from the Ben injury, as we had Maxiell who to a large extent plays the same game.

Part of that is the lindsey hunter rule...they were both thrown to the wolves to replace finals mvps that won rings...not many players in the league can live up to that pressure. and part is because the gm dropped the ball and overlooked the fact that hes a 2 guard without the deep threat when he made him the pg of the future and fractured the psyche of the franchise with the billups trade

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Very true. Have to wonder what these GM's are thinking in trying to replace franchise players with mid-late draft picks. But Hunter still turned out to be a pretty good player once new management figured out his role.

Very true. Have to wonder what these GM's are thinking in trying to replace franchise players with mid-late draft picks. But Hunter still turned out to be a pretty good player once new management figured out his role.

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as Im quite sure stuck will. square peg round hole usually doesnt work too well for the peg...

When Hamilton misses a ton of shots and turns the ball over, he is often doing stupid things that he isn't capable of (like isolating and shooting ridiculous fallaway jumpers). How is that any different than what Stuckey is doing?

Stuckey's jumper was actually a positive last night. He made more than he missed. He didn't play well, of course, but there are about five guys last night I'd single out before I single out Stuckey. Stuckey's production was actually good for the minutes he played, whether or not people will acknowledge that, I don't care.

And you pretty much have a bone to pick with Stuckey, even during the games where he plays really well (you tend to zone in on one or two plays where he didn't do well vs. the rest of the game), and I don't see how you can deny that. You don't like him, I get it.

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I do not like him, that is true. That stems from watching him play though and not some personal bias against him.

I've said over and over that I blame most of Stuckey's struggles on the Piston management for placing him in a staring role that he is not suited for. He has not made a bad situation any more tenable though by his inability to grasp seemingly rudimentary principles. The stuff he is struggling with is stuff a rookie (a real on who's played less than 82 games) 20 games into the season should be dealing with.

I do not like him, that is true. That stems from watching him play though and not some personal bias against him.

I've said over and over that I blame most of Stuckey's struggles on the Piston management for placing him in a staring role that he is not suited for. He has not made a bad situation any more tenable though by his inability to grasp seemingly rudimentary principles. The stuff he is struggling with is stuff a rookie (a real on who's played less than 82 games) 20 games into the season should be dealing with.

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It's a great point, Ernie. Sure, you blame Dumars for forcing Stuckey into a not so natural position. But, at some point, the kid has to learn and adjust his game.

It's a great point, Ernie. Sure, you blame Dumars for forcing Stuckey into a not so natural position. But, at some point, the kid has to learn and adjust his game.

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You aren't ever going to get the best out of him playing him at the point. Stuckey would look a lot better on just about any team in the league probably, and that isn't just the obvious lack of talent on the roster issue, either. It's a joke how Stuckey's been handled since he got here.

You aren't ever going to get the best out of him playing him at the point. Stuckey would look a lot better on just about any team in the league probably, and that isn't just the obvious lack of talent on the roster issue, either. It's a joke how Stuckey's been handled since he got here.

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I agree, it IS a joke regarding how he's been handled. IMO the ONLY chance that Collider has to be a "special" player is at the PG position. As a two, he loses any size/strength advantages that he has over the PGs that he faces every night.

Stuck needed to be groomed to be a PG and his groomer was traded prematurely. If Rod could have played behind Chauncey for a few more years, he might have a shot at being a fine player.

I agree, it IS a joke regarding how he's been handled.IMO the ONLY chance that Collider has to be a "special" player is at the PG position. As a two, he loses any size/strength advantages that he has over the PGs that he faces every night.

Stuck needed to be groomed to be a PG and his groomer was traded prematurely. If Rod could have played behind Chauncey for a few more years, he might have a shot at being a fine player.

He's best utilized as a combo guy off of someones bench.

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I disagree. If Stuckey is playing with a smaller guard (like Gordon), Stuckey is going to be defended by the bigger, stronger guard anyway, regardless of what position he plays. If Stuckey is playing with someone as big or bigger than himself (T-Mac), he's going to still be guarded by the opposing team's point guard in cross-matchups.