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Traffic tonight (14/6/18)

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On Thu 14 Jun at 5:09pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:

Anyone know what is causing all the traffic problems this afternoon? Malling Street/East Street/Phoenix Causeway was at a standstill about 30 mins ago and there's a huge queue heading down Nevill Road to the prison lights (actually, there have been big queues there in the mornings today and yesterday, so maybe they've buggered about with the traffic light timings again). It took me 15 minutes to get from the Swan to Homebase and 20 minutes to get home afterwards. If I'd known it was that bad, I'd have gone to B&Q, as I was in Newhaven anyway!Anyone know of an app that sends traffic alerts to an android phone?

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On Thu 14 Jun at 5:19pm Marco wrote:

HGV on its side at Beddingham A27 roundabout. Traffic everywhere trying to find ways around it.

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On Thu 14 Jun at 5:31pm 50 minutes wrote:

from Polegate to Lewes apparently

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On Thu 14 Jun at 5:35pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:

Bloody hell, what is it with the A27? Yesterday it was closed in the morning because a car had "left the road". Why are there so many accidents on there?

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On Thu 14 Jun at 5:42pm IT's wrote:

The Folkestone to Honiton Trunk Road

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On Thu 14 Jun at 5:54pm Commuter wrote:

Weird, took me ten minutes to get from the Prison roundabout home to Malling. Would have been quicker without the idiot on the push bike who jumped all the lights and made everyone crawl along behind him. No particular sign of traffic anywhere going that direction.

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On Thu 14 Jun at 6:25pm A Person wrote:

"what is it with the A27"?People drive like absolute loons. (Motorbikes which appear out of nowhere doing well over 90 with screaming exhausts who zoom through that unconsidered metre of space between cars doing 60 for instance. Make me jump a mile!)

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On Thu 14 Jun at 7:04pm Not long wrote:

The new A27 Lewes to Polegate super highway will solve all of these problems. Only 5 years to wait. (Maybe ten)

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On Fri 15 Jun at 7:15am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:

@ A Person: do you know how many motorbike accidents there have been on the A27, compared to how many involving cars or HGVs? I can't recall any off the top of my head, but then I'm old and my memory's pants. And if these bikes have "screaming exhausts", how come you don't hear them coming? And the A27 improvements were being talked about when I first moved here. I think I'll be 6 feet under by the time they're finally done.

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On Fri 15 Jun at 11:35am Blatant Liar wrote:

Works starts in 18 months, due for completion in 2022, it's not long to wait?

AC-T: The A27 is accident-prone because of serious design weaknesses between Lewes and Eastbourne. There are stretches where the visibility is very deceptive, and though the Firle stretch has been improved recently it still epitomises this. The turn-off to Bo Beep is horribly dangerous, near invisible given the 60mph speed of the main road traffic.The down-hill approach to the Beddingham roundabout leads too many drivers to go into the roundabout too quickly.The only way to make the road safe is to re-route much of it and dual-carriageway the whole road. Not popular with the nimbys, but sAving lives is more important in my view.

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On Fri 15 Jun at 12:15pm @blatantliar wrote:

BL....Yes, that link refers to various schemes that are already agreed and place, most notably the work to be done at Drusillas Roundabout. What ACT and Not Long are referring to is the discussion about the widening of the A27 from Beddingham to Polegate, or perhaps even a brand new dual darriageway A27 built along side the existing road instead. This has been on the cards almost since the current A27 was built. It is a political minefield, which is why nothing ever happens. this time it might be different, but it still wont happen for at least 5 maybe 10 years, and possibly never.

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On Fri 15 Jun at 12:20pm Earl of Lewess wrote:

I agree. These cars and lorries aren't going to go away and at the moment, all it takes is a tractor or someone tootling along at 37mph to cause tailbacks, prompting some idiots to overtake on blind curves. In the long term, perhaps automated electric cars will be the solution, making sure that traffic is quieter, far less polluting and at a speed that stops tailbacks or accidents.

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On Fri 15 Jun at 12:42pm Homeworker wrote:

Once we're out of the Eurozone and the farmers lose all their ridiculous subsidies for not doing anything hopefully some of them will sell their land meaning far fewer tractors and far fewer issues with widening the road. Also more and more people are working remotely these days and don't need to drive to work and once we get automated cars then there'll be fewer impatient, speeding drivers. By that point the only dangers will be the old gimmers doing 25 mph in an Austin Allegro that will probably never change and software failures causing cars to plough into each other.

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On Fri 15 Jun at 1:00pm @homeworker wrote:

If they sell their land it will be for development. More houses, more people more cars, more congestion. I would love a real tractor to poodle around in. A much slower way of life, being able to look down on those twunts in their Chelsea tractors, massively subsidised fuel, no chance of getting keyed or tyres slashed and no one will want to be parked nearby for fear of being squashed. Win all around

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On Fri 15 Jun at 1:01pm White top hat wrote:

Of course you could all drive with in the law and your particular capabilities we would loose 85% of mishaps shall we calm them

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On Fri 15 Jun at 2:27pm Earl of Lewess wrote:

I think the last post was written by Google Translate. I'm not sure what language it was in originally.

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On Fri 15 Jun at 3:36pm Blatant Liar wrote:

To be honest I thought all plans for continuing the dual carriageway had been scrapped years ago, I'll be more than happy with the junctions improvements.I go up and down it regularly during rush hour and the issue isn't that it's single carriageway, the issue is the traffic stopping to let traffic in and out of junctions.Also from the way the link was talking I assumed they would be widening the road "congestion due to the narrow carriageway and low capacity at junctions. There are limited overtaking opportunities ".

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On Fri 15 Jun at 6:48pm Roadie wrote:

The main "improvement" is going to be @ Polegate traffic lights where there will be a dual carriageway over the railway on to the Godawful Polegate roundabout - that joke of the Civil engineering community will remain. The rest is tittyvating a few junctions and the Alfriston roundabout. I looked @ the plans online a few months ago.

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On Fri 15 Jun at 7:41pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:

Why is the Polegate roundabout a joke, Roadie? There is something not right about it, but I can't put my finger on what it is. I thought it was just me though, not the opinion of professionals.

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On Fri 15 Jun at 9:21pm @AtC wrote:

Bikers ride like idiots. Take some responsibility, just because you are one doesn't make you right. And fix your bloody exhaust. That's neighbourly advice.

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On Fri 15 Jun at 11:07pm Roadie to ACT wrote:

Several things - bearing in mind it was designed from scratch - just a certain number of roads to link up. 1 - coming from Boship to Eastbourne , the slip road to by pass Polegate is a ridiculous tight bend that serves no purpose in helping the traffic flow East. 2 the side of the roundabout by the services turn off has an adverse camber. 3 the Polegate road onto the roundabout is badly angled with no provision for a slip road to Eastbourne. 4 coming East from Pevensey , the left lane will only allow to turn to Polegate, try going round to Hailsham and the lane ends. 5 when turning to Hailsham from the Polegate by pass you end up in the outside lane unless you follow the lane for services. I'm no expert but the Boship ( apparently built in the 40's, and the roundabout the other end of the A22 Purley. are half the size and work perfectly . The damned thing is so big and badly marked lanes that it's like trying to cross a F1 start with traffic coming @ you to get onto it. Therefore the dual carriageway from Polegate lights to it will be a monumental waste of money, nothing along the A272 will change as far as congestion. It's just a moving tailback from Eastbourne to Lewes, and always will be. Mark my words

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On Fri 15 Jun at 11:11pm roadie wrote:

I meant Polegate/Eastbourne number 4

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On Fri 15 Jun at 11:41pm @roadie wrote:

You are correct it is a moving tailback from Eastbourne to Lewes, but then it eases at Lewes (well it doesn’t ease but speed goes from stop/start to 60), despite a ton of traffic joining, I think a dual carriageway would be more useful than you think.

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On Sat 16 Jun at 7:04am roadie wrote:

A dual carriageway all the way would be brilliant, but there's only going to be a little one @ Polegate. Nothing @ Lewes end.

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On Sat 16 Jun at 8:31am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:

@ Roadie: Thanks for that, I get it now. I'm glad it isn't just me losing my ability to work out complex junctions. @ @ACT: not a biker, but I'm pretty bike aware and I can honestly say that 43 years of driving I've never had a biker "appear out of nowhere" because I check my mirrors very frequently and even if I don't see them immediately l usually hear them coming. Loud exhausts may be irritating, but they do make drivers aware that there's a bike around, hence the saying "Loud pipes save lives".

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