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The benefits of maternal antibodies (from having experienced the disease) is only helpful if the person survives the disease. My mother would have had another brother and sister, but they both died in childhood the same week of diptheria.

Can you even imagine going back to the days where it was common to have multiple children die?!? Really, think about that.

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Originally Posted by Katarina Witt

Exactly! My great-grands lost three kids, all boys, in three weeks during a diphtheria epidemic in the 1890s. I never got to meet those three Great-Uncles.

I don't know much about deaths in my family back then from diseases, but my great-uncle contracted polio before the vaccine was around and he was handicapped for life. Always needed some type of crutches in childhood and adulthood, a walker in old age. He wanted to join the military like his brothers but could not, and never married, either.

Ideally, the CDC would stop playing Hot-Potato with the research needed to support broadening the criteria for contraindications to vaccines to include known genetic susceptibility.

Ideally, the CDC would acknowledge that the WHO has agreed to monitor some of the potential discrepancies in the immunization schedule that may be contributing to both decreased efficiacy to & increased adverse reactions to; the MMR.

The CDC is assuming that improving the safety of a policy is admitting to a currently unsafe policy & that will eventually erode the public’s confidence, not ensure it.

What "known genetic susceptibility"? If there is a "known genetic susceptibility" how much would it cost to test everyone in the world for it? How frequently does it occur? What is the risk for a complication from the infection if someone with a "known genetic susceptibility" gets the disease?

I don't know much about deaths in my family back then from diseases, but my great-uncle contracted polio before the vaccine was around and he was handicapped for life. Always needed some type of crutches in childhood and adulthood, a walker in old age. He wanted to join the military like his brothers but could not, and never married, either.

My uncle took us to the cemetery where these Great Uncles are buried and told us the story. I had heard some of it before, but my DH hadn't and he was appalled at the idea of losing three kids in three weeks. (Not that I wasn't, I'd heard some of it before, like the one who was so thirsty d/t the membrane that forms over your throat with diphtheria that he tried to lap up water like a dog.)

But you know, these are just "anecdotes". Now MissTerri's story of her own flu this winter which was just an "inconvenience", that's cold hard science! /sarcasm font on!

My uncle took us to the cemetery where these Great Uncles are buried and told us the story. I had heard some of it before, but my DH hadn't and he was appalled at the idea of losing three kids in three weeks. (Not that I wasn't, I'd heard some of it before, like the one who was so thirsty d/t the membrane that forms over your throat with diphtheria that he tried to lap up water like a dog.)

But you know, these are just "anecdotes". Now MissTerri's story of her own flu this winter which was just an "inconvenience", that's cold hard science! /sarcasm font on!

Yeah, anecdotes are only good when they suit your agenda. I understand how this works.

My 1 year old Uncle died in 1924 in his sleep and his crib right next to his twin brother. Neither were sick. His Death Certificate read "Crib Death". His brother lived into his old age. Blame a contagious disease on his death?

My 1 year old Uncle died in 1924 in his sleep and his crib right next to his twin brother. Neither were sick. His Death Certificate read "Crib Death". His brother lived into his old age. Blame a contagious disease on his death?

Today they would call this SIDS? No?

Yes, today "crib death" is called SIDS. A death due to a "contagious disease" is due to the "contagious disease" and would not be diagnosed as SIDS.

Your point?

The risk of SIDS has been reduced by having babies put to sleep on their backs rather than face down.

Thanks for the anecdote. How to you explain the major decline in measles deaths prior to the vaccine?

It ran out of enough hosts. Vast majority of adult had measles as a child, and couldn't catch it again or spread it. Same for teens and older children, since both parents and doctors wanted them to catch these diseases as young as possible.

Then the birthrate declined; fewer babies being born so fewer new young children to catch it. This was the original concept of "herd immunity". When the vast majority has already had measles and immune, fewer will be able to catch it. They hijacked this concept for vaccination purposes.

Yes, today "crib death" is called SIDS. A death due to a "contagious disease" is due to the "contagious disease" and would not be diagnosed as SIDS.

Your point?

The risk of SIDS has been reduced by having babies put to sleep on their backs rather than face down.

A 1 year old, who is walking, can sleep in any position he wants to. lol

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