Forgive my stupidity, but what differentiates a full node from a half? All I see is numbers getting smaller by varying amounts, and I can't remember ever reading a comparison of the process of shrinking by a half step vs. a full.Reply

From what I can tell, a full node requires totally new tools, usually done at a different facility than the current node. A half node is more of an upgrade in processes and some upgrades in tools, and usually done at the same facility. Anyone with a better explanation?Reply

It still shows that AMD has working silicon.The Lovely NVidia has not shown anything yet.

Either way, working silicon does say something about AMD's 28nm progress. So it IS at least something to report. Whether its worth your time to read is up to you. You at least felt the urge to complain about Anands post even though the title clearly said that AMD only showed off another public demo of working 28nm silicon. And therefore you could have just skipped over it and not use up any of your time. :\Reply

Okay, so Nvidia should baby-sit every childish customer's feelings with cheerleading about it's future products every minute?

They've made it clear that their next release won't be for awhile yet, so what's your point? Clearly, some people are going to believe they are being "strung along" if you start talking about a project too early - Bulldozer is a good example. Many companies prefer not to talk about a product until just before a release, and I don't blame them, much as I like to know what's coming down the road.

In my opinion, there isn't a right or wrong about when you start talking about a product, because some part of your customer base is going to whine and cry no matter what you do. The best thing you CAN do is be accurate and straight-forward with the information you release and any predictions you make.

Just wondering... So who does not want to see AMD products in working condition? Are they Intel fan boys or are they Intel investors? Do Intel also use GlobalFoundry for any of their production? Do they have any investments in that company? Reply

It's not that we don't want to see AMD product demos it is that we want to see BullDozer released. Any other "news" from AMD is blah. Like I said in an earlier post - it was news when this was demoed last week. It is not news when the same thing is demoed a week later. Gee - it still works, well golly. If they had demoed and released some numbers it might have been news. It is like when the Boeing 787 made it's first flight - that was news. When it made it's 2nd flight it wasn't.Reply