Yeah we all love bb10. I think that's the reason the majority of us are apart of this unique community but we all need to face the facts that the os at this current time isn't going to be developed any further.

Hopefully there's some maintenance done to it but nothing has really been promised going forward. Enjoy it while it lasts!

I can also post from my Symbian OS device with tapatalk, but you know that's not what people mean.

Words have meanings. According to dictionary.com, the definition of the word "dead" is:

Adjective
1. no longer living; deprived of life
2. brain dead
3. not endowed with life; inanimate
4. resembling death; deathlike
5. bereft of sensation; numb
6. lacking sensitivity of feeling; insensitive
7. incapable of being emotionally moved; unresponsive
8. (of an emotion) no longer felt; ended; extinguished
9. no longer prevalent, as in effect, significance, or practice; obsolete
10. no longer functioning, operative, or productive
11. not moving or circulating; stagnant; stale
12. utterly tired; exhausted
13. (of a language) no longer in use as a sole means of oral communication among a people
14. without vitality, spirit, enthusiasm, or the like
15. lacking the customary activity; dull; inactive
16. complete; absolute
17. sudden or abrupt, as the complete stoppage of an action
18. put out; extinguished
19. without resilience or bounce
20. infertile; barren
21. exact; precise
22. accurate; sure; unerring
23. direct; straight
24. tasteless or flat, as a beverage
25. flat rather than glossy, bright, or brilliant
26. without resonance; anechoic
27. not fruitful; unproductive
28. Law. Deprived of civil rights so that one is in a state of civil death, especially deprived of the rights of property
29. Sports. out of play
30. (of a golf ball) lying so close to the hole as to make holing on the next stroke a virtual certainty
31. (of type or copy) having been used or rejected
32. Electricity.
a. free from any electric connection to a source of potential difference and from electric charge
b. Not having a potential different from that of the earth
33. Metallurgy.
a. fully killed
b. unresponsive to heat treatment
34. (of the mouth of a horse) no longer sensitive to the pressure of a bit
35. noting any rope in a tackle that does not pass over a pulley or is not rove through a block

I think my point has been that people might have wanted a number of bb10 devices -- particularly the Passport and the Z30 -- if they knew they existed and knew BlackBerry was still in business.

Also, I agree that BlackBerry would have been more successful with a Z50 than the Priv(vy). In fact, I feel confident about this given what a flop Blackdroid has been... especially the Priv.

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Always the same nonsense about marketing. Even if anybody beyond us BlackBerry fans actually wanted BB10, the reality of their balance sheet was that developing BB10 essentially burned up all their cash. As people left pre-BB10 devices for other phones including BB10 devices, it killed their future cash flow. BB10 never provided a recurring type revenue to replace BIS revenue. No cash meant no oxygen, the company hardware business was doomed as it moved off BIS revenues.

No--but you can purchase THE app called WorkWide which will allow you to use web browser, text messaging, email composing, notepad, calculator, picture viewer, txt viewer, or Blaq (twitter) and any combo of the two together side by side.

No--but you can purchase THE app called WorkWide which will allow you to use web browser, text messaging, email composing, notepad, calculator, picture viewer, txt viewer, or Blaq (twitter) and any combo of the two together side by side.

I appreciate the clarification and tip. I am an expectant Passport SE owner.

Always the same nonsense about marketing. Even if anybody beyond us BlackBerry fans actually wanted BB10, the reality of their balance sheet was that developing BB10 essentially burned up all their cash. As people left pre-BB10 devices for other phones including BB10 devices, it killed their future cash flow. BB10 never provided a recurring type revenue to replace BIS revenue. No cash meant no oxygen, the company hardware business was doomed as it moved off BIS revenues.

Always the same nonsense about marketing. Even if anybody beyond us BlackBerry fans actually wanted BB10, the reality of their balance sheet was that developing BB10 essentially burned up all their cash. As people left pre-BB10 devices for other phones including BB10 devices, it killed their future cash flow. BB10 never provided a recurring type revenue to replace BIS revenue. No cash meant no oxygen, the company hardware business was doomed as it moved off BIS revenues.

BB10 isn't dead, yet. There will come a day when BB10's already-dated browser finally packs in. Don't say that we can get alternative browsers from BBWorld, as they're just different front-end's and it's the Webkit that is outdated (back-end). If BlackBerry doesn't keep that webkit updated (which I don't believe they will), then the Web browsing capabilities of BB10 will run into some serious compatibility issues (which it already is doing).

How so? Please elaborate. Remember though, it has to have been actually probable, like explain where BlackBerry would actually get hard cash to actually spend on your strategy(s).....

I believe he is of the opinion that it should have been an all in devices strategy. That means no investment in Good, Securesmart, or any of the other software aquisitions that Blackberry has made.

Frankly, it's either one or the other. All evidence, of course, suggests that the devices strategy would have been a complete failure. Kinda like bashing your head up against the wall thinking that it would go better than the last time.

I believe he is of the opinion that it should have been an all in devices strategy. That means no investment in Good, Securesmart, or any of the other software aquisitions that Blackberry has made.

Frankly, it's either one or the other. All evidence, of course, suggests that the devices strategy would have been a complete failure. Kinda like bashing your head up against the wall thinking that it would go better than the last time.

If the investment had been made in 2006 and 07 I agree. BlackBerry would have had a chance. Instead BlackBerry wasted tons of time because of the idiotic 2 CEO structure. They needed to understand the "Who moved my Cheese" issues that hit every company that refuses to innovate soon enough. No amount of money spent in 2013, 2014 or 15, could overcome the amount of time wasted by the co CEOs.