Comments on: Report: No hearing for Oilers’ Hall after Michalek slashhttp://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/11/report-no-hearing-for-oilers-hall-after-michalek-slash/
ProHockeyTalk on NBCSports.comTue, 31 Mar 2015 18:24:59 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: Ryan Lenghttp://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/11/report-no-hearing-for-oilers-hall-after-michalek-slash/comment-page-1/#comment-163926
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:44:56 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163926This was an outrageous slash and deserved supplemental discipline, on the basis of how it reflects class divisions and double standards among professional athletes. Still, Shanahan may have sound reasoning behind this impunity. This is just speculation, and I’m playing the devil’s-advocate here, but….

I noticed a certain moroseness in Hall’s interview. I have to ask, Why? Why so sad, widdle boy? He squirms his way through the reporter’s question about Michalek, looking for a clever way to spin off the responsibility from his own shoulders, yet still retain his manliness—but he’s almost at a loss for words; rightly so: there really is no words for what he’s trying to do. You’re either manly and accept responsibility, or you’re a coward and you hide behind clever words (or a lack thereof).

Well I have a few words: gutless, reckless, and ill-advised. Ill-advised because I believe Doan has guaranteed Hall a supplemental discipline of his own, next game, which—unfortunately for Hall—will be next season. I say this, because Doan skates over and says something to Hall, and Hall says something in return, and nods his head, as if he’s understood something Doan has said, or more likely, promised to him. I don’t know what was said, but it was no garden-variety insult. It seems to me that Doan made a calm promise, and Hall calmly accepts a challenge he knows he can’t refuse.

So which punishment would you prefer? Knowing that an inevitable Shane Doan tune-up is several months away. Or a 2-4 game suspension with or without a fine? (I know I’d take the fine and suspension any day over that, but those aren’t mutually exclusive options, either). However, it stands to reason that for Hall to reclaim his manliness, he should have to face Shane Doan and deal with the dread leading up to it. (So have fun golfin, buddy….) I say Shane Doan (as opposed to Chipchura or Bissonnette) will deal this out because of his comparable skill level, and—as a show of good sportsmanship—Doan won’t put the Oilers at a disadvantage for a stupid slash from one player.

Hall will make it through this, and an upcoming personal fight gives drama to the game. Let’s remember. Doan’s been suspended too. Hall, like Doan, will get a second chance, and may well play alongside Doan in the Olympics next winter. And Brendan Shanahan entered the league as a fighter, and doesn’t scruple to allow a personal fight. In the end, if Hall is to retain his manliness, he’s going to have to fight Doan. Fines and suspensions seem inconsequential; for they are impersonal and measurable—whereas the dread of an upcoming fight is both personal and incalculable.

For better or for worse, this seems to be the path taken. Hall will finally take responsibility and can begin to rebuild his reputation. While I understand this isn’t Gordie Howe’s league anymore, there’s still a little room for some Gordie Howe justice. I personally think it’s a better guarantee, but it’s true, these scenarios can have disastrous consequences.

(If you want to say I’m wrong and smoking crack, consider using the “Look at the Todd Bertuzzi—Steve Moore debacle” as evidence of this.)

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Fri, 12 Apr 2013 03:17:49 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163668Spot on esracerx46. It’s mind boggling. The league wants to become a popular sport acro$$ America so bad but does crap like this. Don’t they realize that these types of decisions makes the league a laughing stock? I currently reside in a major city along the great lakes – what should be prime hockey territory. But nobody here cares! Hockey to them is one step above wrestling or roller derby. With such inept leadership as this, it isn’t hard to see why.
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Fri, 12 Apr 2013 00:56:53 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163635Way to set an example ( shan ok to 2 hand hack a man) don’t be shocked if he does it again with that nonsuspension. Refs didn’t see anything and even with video you didn’t either. Wow
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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:54:36 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163613What a waste of a process? The intent was obviously there. so make the right call Shanahan. Otherwise you’re a joke!
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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:28:33 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163603The interesting part of that is Heater wasn’t injured from the slash, it wasn’t till vlasic threw him down on the ice with his shoulder taking the force.

You are correct. Shanny places blame on whether there was an injury sustained but we all understand that shouldn’t matter.

if you try and stab someone with a skate and succeed but the player doesn’t have an injury that causes him to miss games… no suspension… now stab him in the throat, get 2-4 games.

MAKES NO SENSE. HORRIBLE. A 5 year old knows the difference but a millionaire who made his cheddar from the sport he is governing is too stupid. You can’t make this crap up

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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 22:45:56 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163591The difference it appears, Shanahan puts a lot of emphasis on whether or not the player was injured. I for one think thats a total load of crap. Dirty play is a dirty play. Doesnt matter if an injury occured.
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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 21:51:33 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163567The worst part, Heatley didn’t even get injured from the slash, in fact, the slash was just an attempt! It didn’t even hit him haha! He got hurt from the fall.
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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 21:51:08 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163566I absolutely cannot believe how their isn’t any punishment for this act. Everyone here is right, Shanahan needs to go. He has no clue what he doing.
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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 21:34:06 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163561As a Wild fan I find this very interesting.

vlasic last week slashed heatley and that earned him a fine and if you compare this to that…. hall should be removed from the league.

Makes no sense why this leagues management has no backbone.

This is why casual fans will never become diehards, what’s the point. No integrity in the league anymore…. as a diehard fan, all we can do is shake our heads and think when…. when is the BS going to end?

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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 21:14:08 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163548Here’s an idea … lets just give him a club instead of a stick. He cant score anyway and he can do some REAL damage with a club eh
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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 21:09:29 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163545Shanny you are a complete friggn joke. I guess you have to break a bone or blow out a knee to get your attention. Heat of the battle my ass. This punk needs to get hit and hit hard. Maybe Dorsett can kick his cheap-shot ass again next year. Shanny you just gave him permission to do it again… well done.
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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 21:00:43 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163536No kidding, that’s a good comparable. Vlasic responded to Heatley’s slash with his own, and Hall responded to his stick getting held with a two-hander to the back of Michalek’s legs.
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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:56:41 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163532That guy is a baby
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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:50:33 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163529So, if you’re Canadian, no punishment.

If you’re not, punishment.

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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:50:10 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163528I really want to kick this kids ass. “it was the heat of the battle.” Anyone that plays/played hockey knows it’s an emotional game and tempers flare, but this is just pathetic. Next Tuesday night the Wild play Edmonton, first game him and Clutterbuck will be on the ice together since his last b*tch move….hoping Cal still has that on his mind.
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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:46:43 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163527But Vlasic gets an 8k fine for his slash on heatley?! The leagues disciplinary department is completely ridiculous.
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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:46:41 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163526I’m in shock that there isn’t a suspension. They always talk about “intent”. When you two-hand tomahawk chop somebody from behind, the only “intent” is to injure or hurt.
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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:13:34 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163522Un..Frigging.. Believable! What did he need to do to make this suspendable, sharpen the top of his blade like a knife and come down with it? I have lost all faith in the NHL’s disciplinary system. What a joke.
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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:59:10 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163516I was thinking the Volchenkov suspension was a little harsh perhaps for the amount of contact he made, but fair enough for it being a dangerous act they’d like to remove from the game. Then I saw this and figured it was a great opportunity to make a further attempt to remove bad plays from the game but they don’t even have a hearing. That’s asinine.
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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:47:48 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163512Or, since apparently you don’t get suspended for these now, a massive two-handed slash.

But hey, I bet if anyone tries to pull one on Hall they’ll get ten games. Why? Why not? Spin the wheel of justice! Where it stops, nobody knows!

What a joke the “discipline” in this league is. They invent a new set of rules in every suspension hearing.

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Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:40:29 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1496600#comment-163505“Two handed tomahawk to the back of a players knee with his back turned?”