Don't use crazy emotes after quoting me. I have not listened to every single thing that man has said. I was making a general statement about how crummy the alt right is. Not trumpeting the praises of Richard Spencer. Maybe this is less subtle ALT RIGHT BAD. NATIONALISM GOOD.

I didn''t know anything about Richard Spencer before this press conference. His hate page on the Poverty Pimp's website commends reserving judgement and further study.

I may leave this forum for a year or two just because I'm tired of every realistic appraisal of our situation being called "defeatism". Perhaps in two years, when Trump has done NOTHING positive for our racial situation, people here might listen to what I say. Right now it's like talking to LIBERALS. Yes, it's gotten that bad.

I'll answer your question to HLM.

The same one I, and all the other sane realists have been proposing since I've been on this forum and for many years before. SEPARATION. The United States of America is NO LONGER A WHITE NATION. It is no longer OURS. We cannot address our dire racial situation through the political process. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. We have to begin forming real world communities and advocacy organizations for our people. We need to raise racial awareness in as many of our folk as possible. Until/unless enough "whites" realize the importance of saving our race and become full-fledged WHITE people, we have no chance.

Let me give you a very recent example that might make it clear to you and others reading this what our current situation is. Last night at the Bristol Motor Speedway in TN, they held a football game between Tennessee and Virginia Tech. There were 150,000 people in attendance, most of them "white". Before the game started there was a big patriotic display, and at the national anthem, part of the stands formed "USA". There was lots of impassioned singing and saluting and flag waving. Then the game began, and 150,000 "whites" began cheering for their FAVORITE NEGROES.

Wake up, people. Time is running out.If you keep waiting around for some politician to save us, we're finished. ONLY WE CAN SAVE OURSELVES.

This is the only elections I've ever seen in the last 30 years that has people openly talking about white identity politics and even the slightest chance on slowing down the mexican and muslim floods. It's a unique opportunity that is unlikely to ever be repeated again.

Control immigration
Then if we can repeal affirmative action 'and fix welfare and entitlements
and eliminate most illegals from the workplace- the problem will begin to correct itself.

It's a kinder, gentler asymmetrical warfare.

Hillary in office kills any chance of this happening.
So does a neocon or RINO or GOPe business as usual type.

Personally speaking, I'm hoping for the complete opposite, i.e. the worst. The simulacrum of White Nationalism on display in SF whereby self-proclaimed racialists champion Trump - aka an Israel firster civic nationalist - is a grave distortion of the 'bottom line' & must be extinguished in order for our entire movement to advance.

We're simply never going to construct any form of unified real life movement when a large number of our people readily quit WN & embrace the lying mainstream system just when someone butters them up. Some people deserve the worst & should face the repercussions of their own delusional mistakes. Upon that day we'll see the remnants of WN/NS/racialism toe the line.

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I may leave this forum for a year or two just because I'm tired of every realistic appraisal of our situation being called "defeatism". Perhaps in two years, when Trump has done NOTHING positive for our racial situation, people here might listen to what I say. Right now it's like talking to LIBERALS. Yes, it's gotten that bad.

We all have our guilty pleasures, one of mine is seeing people eat crow when faced with certain defeat as a result of their flawed decision-making process. I really want a Trump presidency just so we can throw his predictable Zio misdeeds in the face of every shortsighted cretin who attempted to crush dissenting voices & push through Trumpism on steroids here & elsewhere in racial circles.

So vote Trump everyone, i.e. then we can have a nice little 'wash dirty linen' session in SF when your Israel firster president does what he has promised to do: defend Israel, allow 'legal' third-world immigration & fight 'nazis'.

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2) If we don't fix the border and illegal immigration- THIS COUNTRY WILL FALL.

As I type this post, news reports reveal refugee aka invasion centers are burned to the ground in Germany, yet any room for manoeuvre for German patriots is extremely limited because 50,000 US troops & NATO exert a military occupation of Germany, ergo some with a different outlook in life than the current multikulti internationalist NWO 'might' want the USA in its current form to fall... just something to consider.

Build something better, racial & aligned with Europeans, because the United States of America in its Judeo liberalism/capitalism form is literally a Tolkien-esque force of evil in 2016 ala Mordor, with the Federal Reserve as Mount Doom.

Personally speaking, I'm hoping for the complete opposite, i.e. the worst. The simulacrum of White Nationalism on display in SF whereby self-proclaimed racialists champion Trump - aka an Israel firster civic nationalist - is a grave distortion of the 'bottom line' & must be extinguished in order for our entire movement to advance.

I've been told by older members here that it was nearly as bad in 2008 when SF turned into a Ron Paul maturbatorium. But based on the people that were around when I began visiting SF the next year, it seems to me there might have been more anti-democratic racialists here to counterbalance it than there are now.

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So vote Trump everyone, i.e. then we can have a nice little 'wash dirty linen' session in SF when your Israel firster president does what he has promised to do: defend Israel, allow 'legal' third-world immigration & fight 'nazis'.

Nah, they won't "wash any dirty linen". They'll continue to make excuses for why Trump hasn't lived up to his promises, mostly blaming Congress and perhaps the courts for his failures. Any change in his rhetoric will just be "strategic bridge building" with the opposition.

They'll continue to make excuses for why Trump hasn't lived up to his promises, mostly blaming Congress and perhaps the courts for his failures. Any change in his rhetoric will just be "strategic bridge building" with the opposition.

We have a living example of Trumpiatus Delusionalis in France, i.e. 10 years ago when midget Jew Nicolas Sarkozy piggybacked the FN's platform & stole their electorate when he promised closed borders, security, repeal of EU infringement on French sovereignty etc. which obviously turned into false promises when he delivered the complete opposite after he was elected president.

That's because the mainstream two parties in our democracies are bought & paid for, a fact which obviously includes the GOP whom Trump represents. The real 'sad' part of the situation in France? Since the FN fatefully lost supporters who moved over to the mainstream right in 2007 & even after those who abandoned them were 'disappointed' (put mildly) with Sarkozy's tenure as president, the FN didn't stick to their initial guns, no, they moved into the center right themselves. In our case such a phenomenon would entail WN/NS being slowly but surely swallowed by the civic nationalist alt-right & forever lost.

With regards to WN, I partially blame the 14 words which are far too vague & left open to varying degrees of interpretation regarding how"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children" can be achieved, i.e. in SF, some people see Trump wants to build a wall & think "Voilà, that's how we'll save the white race!"...

...some people see Trump wants to build a wall & think "Voilà, that's how we'll save the white race!"...

I've addressed the issue of "walls" several times on here. A people who believe they can only survive in the world by hiding behind walls are ALREADY DEAD. A vital, expanding people are not afraid to interact in any fashion with others. They KNOW who they are, they are fiercely proud of their identity, and will go to any lengths to defend and preserve it.

In other words, NOTHING like most "whites" today. And THAT, boys and girls, is our problem. If the blood of our noble ancestors still ran in our veins, we wouldn't need a wall with Mexico. Mexico would be paying tribute to us, and their people would fear to even approach the border.

I've addressed the issue of "walls" several times on here. A people who believe they can only survive in the world by hiding behind walls are ALREADY DEAD. A vital, expanding people are not afraid to interact in any fashion with others. They KNOW who they are, they are fiercely proud of their identity, and will go to any lengths to defend and preserve it.

In other words, NOTHING like most "whites" today. And THAT, boys and girls, is our problem. If the blood of our noble ancestors still ran in our veins, we wouldn't need a wall with Mexico. Mexico would be paying tribute to us, and their people would fear to even approach the border.