The missed tackles are obviously a big problem but for mine we will never have any structure when playing ayshford or lawrence to partner benji.they are centres and no more and until sheens realises this we have more of the same to come.

tiger pom wrote:The missed tackles are obviously a big problem but for mine we will never have any structure when playing ayshford or lawrence to partner benji.they are centres and no more and until sheens realises this we have more of the same to come.

Absolutely agree 100%. Forwards we're SOFT in defence.blair is next to useless, and complete lack of commitment by whole team. No excuses for this poor performance.

1. The ongoing reference to "the turning point" - if a team can't compose themselves after having a try (or two) scored against them, then I'm afraid there is no depth of character. Simple as that. Good teams weather the storm and then regroup.

2. Play us through the middle and we struggle against most teams - last week, even allowwing for Robbie's sad news, showed it up.

When I see where the dogs, Manly and the Storm are, I realize just how far behind we are.

The momentum of 7 wins in a row came to a slight speed hump last week (given the circumstances, I suupose) but last night it was a freefall from a great height. The mental softness of the team was exposed, yet again. Galloway was taking dolly steps at the line for most of the night, just when we needed him to show some mongrel and steady the side after the fight back by Newcastle. He was our worst.

I can find no place in the side for three soft attacking forwards like Galloway, Heighington and Blair. One or more of them need to be shown the direction to the BRET training facilities.

The stupid Cashmere penalty BUT worse than that our forwards inability and lack of aggression from that point. Instead of following on from what went on in the scrum and giving it to the Knights with solid tough defence to put them back in their place, the Wests Tigers capitulated and let the Knights take over, is that all it takes? a push and shove in a scrum and WTs fall over, surely not but it looked like it.

1. The ongoing reference to "the turning point" - if a team can't compose themselves after having a try (or two) scored against them, then I'm afraid there is no depth of character. Simple as that. Good teams weather the storm and then regroup.

2. Play us through the middle and we struggle against most teams - last week, even allowwing for Robbie's sad news, showed it up.

When I see where the dogs, Manly and the Storm are, I realize just how far behind we are.

My 2c worth.

Absolutely right. When we get a bad decision we never compose ourselves like say the storm for example. I realise the momentum had swung, but halftime should have allowed us a fresh start, unfortunately we just played dumb, making silly mistakes.

The whole game was a joke - defined by the refs who chose to look after Newcastle once they were behind.
Even allowing for some bad play we still had to make 30% more tackles than the Knights - and not one decision went our way (until the last 5 minutes).
And why Sheens perseveres with Ayshford or Lawrence at 5/8 I'll never understand.
How many times does something not work before you give up?
Wake up Tim - they are centres!
He should have put Moltzen there- or at least ANYONE who knows how to play there.
With Moltzen gone it showed again our serious lack of pace - I know Lawrence WAS quick before but he seems to have slowed considerably.
As for that dumb moment by Cashmere
The funny thing is I still think we would have beaten them easy with the same amount of ball and field position.