The name of the school dosn't mean jack for the bar, you either meet the standard of you don't. Its not applying for a firm, its the bar. If one one JD works they all work, if one dosnt then none do, period.

To the poster. Don't take my word for it, look around and see the flames/poor advice Thelo offers on threads. Having said that, he is correct that the bar doesn't really care what school you graduate from so long as it is ABA accredited. If you graduate from Cooley, you should be able to gain admission to any bar that a graduate of say UVA. My point was two-fold. 1. not all bars have the same standards (although as Nealric points out, crimes of moral turpitude are more difficult to overcome than crimes that aren't like, say, disorderly conduct) and 2. (and this is where, as he often does, Thelo misses the point) getting into the bar is only part of the equation. It does you little good to get into the bar if you have no chance of finding legal work. This is where a more portable degree, like one from Northwestern, absolutely matters. Your chances of getting a job anywhere in the country are much higher than a graduate from Cooley. That is a verifiable fact. If you follow the logic on step further, this means that you can and should try to get into schools that will maximize your chances everywhere in the country so that you can target those states that are more open to admitting someone with a fraud conviction.

Look, its free to apply to cooley and with your LSAT you'd get a free ride(160 or above) If you are worried about application fees apply there online for free, if they take you its still free, and if they say no that is free too. http://www.cooley.edu

Why would someone with a 171 apply to Cooley? That's probably good enough for a full-ride from a T1 (which would likely be unconditional, unlike the Cooley full ride)

I'm going to strongly endorse Nealric here. Why in the name of everything holy would you apply to Cooley with a 171? Fraud is a real bastard in terms of getting admitted to the bar but you can find out a lot by simply calling and asking some questions (admissions departments and the bar itself). This costs nothing and they have no reason to lie to you. I am certain you aren't the first person to apply to law school with a fraud conviction. Contrary to Thelo's advice, you probably stand a better chance of getting into a bar somewhere if you graduate from a higher ranked school. Say what you will about USNWR rankings but they carry a lot of weight with employers and, in many ways, they become self-fulfilling. Graduating from Northwestern would open many more doors for you than a JD from Cooley. Make some phone calls and then make up your mind. In my view, someone with that kind of LSAT score should not be going to Cooley. Have you thought about taking your chances at the MCAT?

Jobs that dont require it are direct commission jobs such as jag, doctors and chaplians.

This is the last I will post here. Numitor is flat out wrong. First of all the Aviation Selection Test Battery is taken by potential officer candidates who wish to be considered for Student Naval Aviator (SNA) status or Student Naval Flight Officer (SNFO) slots. The Marines have no physicians or chaplains, these are sourced through the Navy. Marine JAG officers are required to complete OCS and TBS and not some abbreviated version like officers who graduate from professional schools in other branches. If you want to have a serious talk about the Marines, I'd be happy to help out but I can assure you as someone who was an aviator in the Marines who transitioned out and went to law school that Numitor is either intentionally giving you a line or he is full of beans.

thats a good plan. Have you talked to a recruitment NCO or officer to discuss your time to take your ASVAB?They have free study tools online but the recruiters can give you the more up to date ones on disk.

OK, I will be doing a 10-week course in training in the summer of 2011, OSO. I just have to follow the regimen for the training and be prepared.

There are so many problems with this post I don't know where to begin. First of all, if you are a college graduate and you are considering going OCS, why are you taking the ASVAB? Unless things have changed drastically since I was commissioned in 1997, you will eventually take a bunch of other exams, but if you got a BA/BS from an accredited 4 year college or university, you shouldn't be taking the ASVAB. Secondly, if you want to be an 0302 (not easy to do) don't go to law school. Why bother? As an aside, most infantry types are not reconnaissance Marines. "Going Recon" is completely voluntary and is very selective. Since 2006, the Marines actively contribute to SOCOM via MARSOC. The surest way to MARSOC is through Recon. Additionally, in the Marines, you will have very little say what MOS you get. Oh by the way, some of the smartest people I ever met in my life were in the Marines. Period. I'm not sure where the impression that dummies go DOD comes from but it is 1. false and 2. counterproductive if you hope to join their elite ranks. I emailed one of my friends who is an AV-8B driver and a graduate in philosophy from Columbia your back and forth about being smart. Dangerous talk man. Lose that before you go or you'll last about a week. Just as a for example, the attrition rates in my OCS class (Charlie Co, 1997) was 30%. That is low. If you do PLC, it is much higher. Anywho, most of the information on these boards regarding military service is wrong or worse, half-right. Just as another for example, there is only one MOS in the USMC requiring a specific degree and that is JAG. This guy you are conversing with (Numitor) was in the Army, (very different animal), was enlisted (very different from commissioned) and holds some very bizarre opinions about Airforce and Navy types. That's just for starters.

Yeah Airborne and rangers are such pussies, they should all just kill themselves.....f'in JH.

You seem to consistently miss the point on these boards. That and your spelling is atrocious.

Your non-sequiturs continue to amaze. Please tell me you are drunk or that you are just getting used to your new anti-seizure medication. Additionally your insecurity is unbecoming and makes it difficult to engage in meaningful exchanges. I don't care if you are a law student. I don't care if you sell appliances for a living. I suspect a lot of people on these boards are college sophomores who are absolutely, positively going to attend HLS. That is after they graduate, and ace their LSATs and cure cancer and finish their applications....Come to think of it, I've wasted enough of my puff already. Good bye.

remind us how many "bisexual people you didn't call fagot and kick out of your unit, eh JH?

Oh stop pretending dude, you know I kicked you out for open and notorious buggery. Your arguments have the clarity and precision of a Jackson Pollock.

Your argument is ridiculous. There are over 200,000 DD's. I would imagine a fair number of them are gay. Are they just self-hating masochists? There are also thousands and thousands of 18-22 year-olds who find gayness as exciting as left-handedness. Come to think of it, that's how I feel about it. I don't give a toss what you do in your bedroom. My point (focus....now focus this is important) is that I find being gay or bisexual or transgendered is a complete and total bore. I couldn't care less. Can you do your job? Bringing up the fact that you date dudes is totally irrelevant. Same goes for law school. Also, you must be old because you make totally inappropriate use of "quotes."