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Is an Adult Diaper really a Deadly Weapon?

Is an Adult Diaper really a Deadly Weapon?

We’ve heard story after story of airport security pat-downs that have crossed the line. We can now add one more to the growing list of “do these people really have no common sense” incidents. The nun has been searched. The six-year-old girl had to get patted down. Now, we have the story of TSA agents who refused to let a 95-year-old woman in a wheel chair board her flight unless they inspected her adult diaper. The government has clearly gone bonkers!

As reported in the Christian Science Monitor, a complaint has now been filed following a search of 95-year-old Lena Reppert, because TSA agents insisted that they must search Reppert’s adult diaper.

TSA officials responded to both complaints the same way. “We have reviewed the circumstances involving this screening and determined that our officers acted professionally and according to proper procedure,” they said.

As you can see from the following video, not only did Reppert undergo a traumatic experience, but so did her daughter, Jean Weber, who was accompanying Reppert on the airplane. Because Weber was distraught from what was happening, she had to undergo additional screening as well.

Officials offered to pull their luggage off the plane so Reppert could change into a clean diaper, but Weber said she feared her mother, a retired nurse, would miss her flight.

“She is frail. I had arranged for these times because it’s the time she was the strongest every day,” Weber said. “I just did not want to put her through some kind of wait.”

However, Weber said the agents would not allow her to remove the diaper in the screening room – so she had to take her mother to a restroom outside the security area, and then wait in line to be screened again. The second time, Weber said she triggered an alarm herself because she was upset and crying.

Perhaps the TSA agents were just following guidelines. That’s not even the point! The point is that if an incident like this is allowed to happen, then 1) the guidelines are clearly ridiculous, and 2) the TSA agents need to step up and do the right thing. Saying you were “just following the guidelines” is no excuse for a complete lack of common sense.

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Let them examine ALL the adult diapers,,,,right after making a healthy deposit.

These controlling Progressive life manipulating fools just invented one more way to intrude into our lives and stink up our government. It’s not about the weapons, it’s about proving who is in control of our private lives and private parts. They not only want our unborn child, but our unborn fece which is the image of the God they worship, which is themselves, the new world Liberal progressive Socialist.

I agree. Add one step…..make sure the TSA checks all people with headscarves or other clothing that covers up head to toe, with the exception of the eyes. I bet there would be some screaming and lawsuits then. Do you think they would then change the rules to accommodate muslum travelers?

michiganproud….there ALREADY IS EXCEPTIONS TO FULL DRESS MOOOSLIMS….THEY GET A PASS WITHOUT INSPECTION…..ITS AGAINST THEIR ‘RELIGION’ DON’T YOU KNOW….SO THEY DON’T GET GROPED OR SCANNED (on my plan they simply waved two garbed women? through…they could have been men – no one knows, but they were waived right through, but I hear that even the pilots get scanned). HOW IS THAT FOR SECURITY!!!

zellersgs in the past two years I have traveled 12 times 7 times I have seen Muslim women with burkas. None of them went through the Back Scatter or had secondary checks. I was directly behind two Muslim women with burkas on. They showed ID without removing their veil. That shows me they do not enforce the rule against them. I, standing behind them in a tight fitting tank top and shorts was directed for secondary check, AKA pat down.

Rules are great if you follow them but when you abuse them as I believe the TSA does they need to be dissolved. This is just more of the double standards that this administration encourages with their policies. It’s happening in every government agency.

owm – you were with these women from the time they exited their vehicles until they arrived at the line? you now sound like the child fussing because they believe someone got away with something they weren’t able to – without any more proof than an imagined slight…

you stated: Rules are great if you follow them but when you abuse them as I believe the TSA does they need to be dissolved. This is just more of the double standards that this administration encourages with their policies. It’s happening in every government agency.

are the rules abusive, or the fact they are being – in your opinion – selectively applied?

do you dispute (you might not have seen the post) where the incidents of hijackings has greatly reduced (to none after 9/11) with the creation of the TSA…? prior to that, we seem to be fairly up there on the incident scale…

zellersgs, first I said I was behind them in line I was 10 inches away from them. and obviously you must not fly or you would know how it works. TSA has not stopped any hijackings. The rules are being selectively applied. how many US planes were hijacked before 9/11? The last one before 2001 that I can recall was done by D.B. Cooper. that was the 70’s. That was about 30 years without incident. They used only metal detectors then. I have been flying regularly since June 1980 including international flights. I think I know a hell of a lot more than you about the subject.

zellersgs, first I said I was behind them in line I was 10 inches away from them. and obviously you must not fly or you would know how it works. TSA has not stopped any hijackings. The rules are being selectively applied. how many US planes were hijacked before 9/11? The last one before 2001 that I can recall was done by D.B. Cooper. that was the 70′s. That was about 30 years without incident. They used only metal detectors then. I have been flying regularly since June 1980 including international flights. I think I know a hell of a lot more than you about the subject.

IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! ! ! ! !

—-what i asked was had you followed their footsteps from their vehicle until they arrived at the line…based on what you said, you have no idea if, when or how they were addressed by the TSA for the majority of their time in the airport.

zellersgs, There were no hijackings that occurred in the US in the 1980’s and the only one in the 1990’s was a Fed-X plane. The TSA could not have stopped the Fed-x hijacking, they would had no clue.
The last Commercial Hijacking in the US happened in 1978. So no hijackers boarded Commercial flights in the US until 2001. That’s about 23 years.

The last plane hijacked in July 23, 1968: To date, the only successful El Al hijacking attempt, as three members of Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) hijack El Al Flight 426 from Rome to Tel Aviv. Diverting to Algiers the negotiations extend over forty days. Both the hijackers and the hostages go free.
The Israeli’s are doing much better than any nation in the world using “Profiling” Sure looks like that works, now don’t it.

zeller….IT DOES NOT MATTER IF ANYONE WAS WITH THESE ‘WOMEN’ OR NOT…. WHAT IS GOOD FOR ONE IS GOOD FOR ALL. Of course I am only guessing they were women, they could have been men strapped with explosives……THAT IS THE POINT. NO ONE should be boarding a plane covered from top to bottom without getting checked…..BUT ONLY because they are ******* are they given a pass….Nuns dressed in a habit get checked, so why not anyone in a burka????

zellersgs, you ask this: “again, were you with this person from start to finish – from parking lot to airplane to know exactly what occurred with them? ”

As I said you don’t have a clue. You do not go thru security until you have a boarding pass. Until then you are not checked and if you leave the boarding area and return to the ticket area you will have to go thru security again. So your statement about the parking lot shows your ignorance about flying.

zellersgs, you ask this: “again, were you with this person from start to finish – from parking lot to airplane to know exactly what occurred with them? ”

As I said you don’t have a clue. You do not go thru security until you have a boarding pass. Until then you are not checked and if you leave the boarding area and return to the ticket area you will have to go thru security again. So your statement about the parking lot shows your ignorance about flying.

KISS OBAMA NOW! ! ! !

—-i’m aware you don’t get checked until you get to the boarding area…but my point still stands…unless you followed the women the entire time they were in the airport – you can’t account for what did or did not occur in regards to security checks with them…i think we can both get past the nitpicking and agree on that basic reality. just because they made it in front of you in the scan line doesn’t mean they weren’t at the airport earlier already being checked – knowing, as a responsible traveller would, that they could request a private scanning/pat down situation and allotted enough extra time to do so.

zeller, it is really hard to believe that there are people as stupid as you, but here you are….proof.
it doesn’t matter if they came and left and went through the line 50 times, if they are covered head to foot NO ONE KNOWS THAT THEY ARE THE SAME PERSON OR WHAT THEY HAVE CONCEALED ON THEIR PERSON.
******** don’t get a patdown,( private or not) or scanned THAT IS THE PROBLEM…..they simply get a pass Not long ago there was an article over two men, dressed in their garb (faces showing) that refused to be patted down, claiming ‘religion’ and would sue if they were touched…..guess what – they got a pass too.
idiot !

zellersgs, there was no genocide going on in Libya. Even if there was then why are we not in Darfur. Five million people have been killed there. The only reason we are there is oil destined for Europe.

Comment by zellersgs
June 29, 2011 @ 2:45 pm —-i’m aware you don’t get checked until you get to the boarding area…but my point still stands…unless you followed the women the entire time they were in the airport – you can’t account for what did or did not occur in regards to security checks with them…i think we can both get past the nitpicking and agree on that basic reality. just because they made it in front of you in the scan line doesn’t mean they weren’t at the airport earlier already being checked – knowing, as a responsible traveller would, that they could request a private scanning/pat down situation and allotted enough extra time to do so.

You argument holds no water. and you spelled traveler wrong, not that i spell everything correctly but you are teacher.

zellersgs, there was no genocide going on in Libya. Even if there was then why are we not in Darfur. Five million people have been killed there. The only reason we are there is oil destined for Europe.

HUG OBAMA NOW! ! ! !

—-like i said – right or wrong…the conservative blogs are citing oil, the liberals – genocide…somewhere in the middle is some measure of truth…

Comment by zellersgs
June 29, 2011 @ 2:45 pm —-i’m aware you don’t get checked until you get to the boarding area…but my point still stands…unless you followed the women the entire time they were in the airport – you can’t account for what did or did not occur in regards to security checks with them…i think we can both get past the nitpicking and agree on that basic reality. just because they made it in front of you in the scan line doesn’t mean they weren’t at the airport earlier already being checked – knowing, as a responsible traveller would, that they could request a private scanning/pat down situation and allotted enough extra time to do so.

You argument holds no water. and you spelled traveler wrong, not that i spell everything correctly but you are teacher.

KISS OBAMAS BUM NOW! ! ! ! !

—–i think it does – and it pisses you off…:) teacher’s are human, too…

Just when you thought the TSA couldn’t stoop any lower, they turnaround and humiliate an elderly women in the late stages of cancer. What guide lines are they following, Stalin’s guide to becoming the perfect fascist. This is just unacceptable and the TSA needs to be dissolved.
The person who did this intolerable act should be fired and the TSA needs to be sued. The top person at TSA should resign immediately or be terminated. If memory serves me well, we did not have these things happening until Obama was in charge. The people he appointed are totalitarians.

One wild man, you are absolutely correct. These things did NOT seem to happen until Obama appeared on the scene. We went approx. 8 years after 9/11, during which time we increased airport security and made screeners more “alert” but not until the last year to year and 1/2 have we seen older people and children being essentially – sexually assaulted by airport security! I think about someone doing that to my grandmother or my child and I get so angry and then my eyes well up with tears for the embarrassment and humiliation those people have endured – the ones we’ve read about on this site or others like it- whose rights have been violated by the TSA!
Our government is completely out of control! NO HONOR!!!

Why is it that Americans are the only ones enduring such humiliation? women in Burkas with only their eyes showing just walk right through! This started with Obama and is just one more reason he MUST be defeated so we can rid our country of this kind of trash and restore our liberties!

Dontcha just love it? They sure are doing a bang-up job…never again will 95 yo women, cancer ridden, wheel chair bound, adult diaper wearing, fly a plane into a tall building, or into the Pentagon. These people shouldn’t be allowed into airports in the first place! See, profiling works…it’s those old, sick, ladies with dirty diapers who attacked us on 9/11…

In a socialist state, the indivigual has very few rights and little freedom. This type of abusive behavior will become more common as the Federal government takes greater control of our lives. Since the Congress is too scared of civil disorder, there is little chance of Obama being impeached. Therefore, it is essential that he not be returned to office for another four year term if this socialistic takeover is to be stopped.

Keep an eye on the Texas Legislature, now in special session at the call of Rick Perry.

One item on the agenda, at the Governor’s specific request, is to re-visit the criminalizing of TSA behavior at Texas airports. It will be a first, among several first in this session…

This incident with Ms. Reppert comes at a very opportune time….just the opportunity Perry needs to stick a finger in Obama’s eye…who, BTW: has threatened to cut off air service to Texas…and to put an end to this madness.

Note to Obama: we have a saying down here–“Don’t let your alligator mouth over load your mosquito butt….”

Translation available if you need it.
God bless
“Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.” Sam Houston, General, and 2nd President of Texas.

Yes, except that the committee sent a watered down version to the Senate for a vote. If the bill passes, Governor Perry will have the choice to sign the weak bill or veto it, and in either case, nothing good happens. It’s a lose-lose situation. It’s maddening!

Will indeed be interesting to see if Perry deems that weak bill in HIS interest at this point in his potential campaign–if there is anything about Perry–he can gauge public sentiment…

So, in a sense his interest in getting our support might work for us.

Don’t ya just love politics?
God bless
“I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain.” –John Adams, letter to Abigail Adams, 1780

I had to fly to Tennessee last mouth and after getting undressed at the first air port to leave California (The Flight with no frills),
I went through Three air ports to get to my destination with little to no hassle, And three to get back. However coming back in to California that was a different Thing.
I think the hole secretly thing is out of control, or should I say no control !! As is the Government.
They seem to blow everything out of proportion, (I’m not saying that 911 was not terrible and the Pentagon too my Brother works there, but they didn’t have anything on them when they got on the plane, Didn’t they go through a metal detector to board? I think they were using them a lot longer before 911 ) However they used the Plane as a Bomb, No shampoo, toothpaste or hair cream and definitely not a diaper.
So as we our buying in on what they are saying is a Danger, they can use it to take more of our Liberties away from us under the pretence of protecting us from the things they have created. So what is next? We can still drive to the destination in a car or Truck / Van with all kinds of junk. The Federal Government hasn’t got a clue anymore about the people,ther to busy doing what they want, or any commonsense. If they would just stop, and listen to the People (The plane folk) and make a Decision.
But as usual the Government has created a industry at the cost of our Freedoms.

TSA – The gift that keeps on giving. We create a massive federal agency, make them enforce rules that most citizens will protest and deride, and then they unionize because of lousy working conditions. Great idea.

God bless
Daniel Webster – “Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of power … it is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.”

Airport authorities have the option of choosing some other security company. Would that they would elect to do so. TSA under Janet Napolitano and Obama has become nothing but a gestapo. The agency spends large amounts of money on useless, and
perhaps dangerous, technology and fails to stop weapons and potential terrorists from getting through. The Israelis still have it right. Their profiling system is faster, far less intrusive and more effective. When are we ever going to learn?

1) they behaviorally profile–they look for the bomber not the bomb
2) they require high caliber, trained, committed human beings rather than simply a new technology that can be manned by a fence post–eh, make that a unionized fence post.

Both of those are currently anathema in our political climate.

There are those who believe the insanity and insult we are enduring is preferable to those two things.

Perhaps if enough people complain about TSA treatment of passengers then more airports will choose to use private contractors. Now that TSA is unionized, the airports better get on with it. Otherwise, the National Labor Relations Board will figure out some way to prevent airports from exercising that option. Look what they have done to Boeing. If they can call a company opening a new plant in a more business-friendly state illegal then they can probably make the airports use TSA regardless of how the federal law is written.

In Israel, all the screening is done BEFORE you arrive at the airport. They know you better than you know yourself before you can get on El Al. Intrusive screening does not work, as is shown by the ridiculous and callous manner in which this woman was treated – “just doing my job”, some job!

Thank you George W.Bush for starting this rogue agency and now that we have a complete IDIOT in charge….the TAS feels it can do whatever the hell it want’s to. Defund the TSA and start over with profiling!

Just when I’ve made up my mind not to sit quietly by any longer and watch our country be destroyed but to stand up and be heard, something like this comes along and it’s so totally absurd I find myself speechless. What can one possibly say to such insane actions?

What to say…how about that they are insane, tyrannical, and unacceptable?

There is no bottom to the insanity, and inanity of these folks–it CAN go further, MUCH further…WE must stop it. First step, calling it what it is.

God bless

“The preservation of a free Government requires not merely, that the metes and bounds which separate each department of power be invariably maintained; but more especially that neither of them be suffered to overleap the great Barrier which defends the rights of the people. The Rulers who are guilty of such an encroachment, exceed the commission from which they derive their authority, and are Tyrants. The People who submit to it are governed by laws made neither by themselves nor by an authority derived from them, and are slaves.

“We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of Citizens, and one of the noblest characteristics of the late Revolution. The free men of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle, and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle. We revere this lesson too much soon to forget it.” James Madison’s Memorial and Remonstrance (1785)

If that had been my 95 year old mother I would probably be in jail now.
So…now if you have a 90+ mother that wears Depends you need to make sure that there is nothing firm in the back of her Depends that would create a search of the Depends and her this frail little woman who was not in good health and is moved around like a sack of flour. Now, because the daughter becomes emotional these TSA idiots decide that she has a problem and takes her into a room to feel her up and down to make sure that she is ‘clean’. I wonder if they had a learned physciatrist there to make sure she was not physcotic and was going to do harm to them. They have finally done the 2nd outrageous thing and this comes after feeling up babies in diapers and now they go after our elderly. I hope I will never have to fly again. This is beyond STUPID! Not sure what the next level for this would be but probably the word is PERVERSION.

Just remenber, anyone in a Burka gets a pass, a man in womens underwear gets a pass. Our Congressmen get a pass. etc. but a 95 year old woman gets the works, hmmmm…
Time to boycott the airlines- ALL OF THEM!

Burkas, cross-dressers and the like get passes…this is what happens when the fear of outrage gets in the way of common sense. In a sane world these would be the FIRST to be searched, if not prohibited from flying at all. Scream Free Speech all you want, but if a private business declines to carry a person out of a disgust for TSA lack of professional rigor, what right has been abridged?
And while Sapient makes a good point, was it not a “irate … minority” of Americans, those who feel that the government has an absolute duty to protect everyone from anything that could possibly harm anyone in any way, that gave us TSA in the first place? “Be careful what you ask for; you might just get it.”
The writing was on the wall when the Shoe-bomber Richard Reid, who was apprehended by passengers, caused everyone to remove their shoes. Macgyver is to be credited for the prohibition of shampoo and the like, for fear of mixing a binary device out of ingredients in carry-on luggage – never mind the complex chemical engineering involved or the volatility and odor of the ingredients.
Only when the TSA mandates that there be only folding lawn chairs for seating, no carry-on luggage permitted, all luggage to be transported by all-together separate means, filing of pre-flight itineraries (as well as complete itineraries while at your destination), will there be real outrage raised.
Oh, I forgot that you cannot wear your own clothes during the flight, only TSA provided paper suits and they will watch you change into them…

Frisk 95 year old ladies and force them into compromising situations and convict a Border Patrol Agent for pulling on the handcuffs of a Mexican Narco-Terrorist and sentenced to 10 years. Amazing what this country has become…amazing.
We’re seeing America become history right before our eyes and we are allowing the politically correct crowd to run amok.

The way the so-called “justice dept” has been treating not only BP agents but other LE officers for doing their jobs is to say the least, inexcusable and a travesty of justice that too many left wing judges go along with. These U.S. Attorneys and DOJ lawyers are collecting very nice paychecks from US to run around manufacturing “civil rights” for criminals then accusing and prosecuting officers in federal court for supposedly violating those non-existent ‘rights.’ The only right anyone who has entered our country illegally has is to be treated humanely during a promptly executed deportation process or being booked for another crime committed while here. They do NOT have the civil rights of a legitimate citizen nor do they have the right to be represented by a lawyer paid for by the taxpayers. The last time I checked, the United States is the only country in the WORLD that provides an attorney at taxpayer expense to anyone accused of a criminal action. Whether they are a citizen or not doesn’t matter, you want an attorney, you pay for it yourself otherwise just sit down and shut up. Don’t believe me? Go get arrested anywhere else in the world and see how far whining about your civil rights gets you. Our criminal justice system has been turned upside down by left wing judges, weak, deal making prosecutors, weasels and sharks masquerading as defense attorneys, and bleeding heart juries that don’t have enough common sense to throw out such ridiculous charges.

With TSA being a Government agency which puts it into the fold of the Obama Administration, is it any wonder that they like the rest of the Obama Administration are trying to get into our pants!! Even more convincing now since TSA has joined the Union Zombie Cult.

The government IS profilling…. they are profilling ALL NON MUSLIMS! Has anyone seen any Muslim get an enhansed pat down? Has anyone seen any Muslim go through the enhanced body scanners?

It is from this group of people, the Muslim world, that the terrorists come from; and yet our government allows that group of people to go through without security checks. They are not checking these people; therefore no one should have to go through these security measures.

It has been proven that these procedures have not stopped a single terrorist from boarding aircraft. These procedures do not pass the security tests where fake bombs are sent through security; 60% – 80% of fake bombs are not found! you can google this and you will see that these measures do not stop terrorists. This is purely an objective to get American citizens used to being absolutely controlled by a gangster government.

Regrettably, you are absolutely right Gunny84! It is not enough that TSA is being allowed to get away with insulting people the way they are while practically ignoring where the real threat is obviously coming from, it goes deeper than that. What is now happening in every minute of every day at airports across the country is not only insulting it is stupid and obviously ineffective when numerous tests have proven they miss about 70-80 % of fake devices. TSA from the top, obuma/napitpalionaxyz or however she spells it, are not idiots though on the surface they certainly appear to be. There is a control conditioning agenda at work here that is only part of the total picture when one looks at the increasing intrusiveness of the federal monster under this administration.
One thing really scary is that are finding no shortage of employees (aka thugs or goons) willing to lower themselves to unquestioning obedience to these ridiculous “guidelines” and hide behind the post WWII Nazi excuse that they are only following orders. Are they sub-human robots that cannot think for themselves or so stupidly eager for their federal paycheck that they have suppressed any vestige of common sense they have ever had?

googling it i did find an article that supported – and explained – this statistic…

technology and ingenuity of those making the bombs is the factor that has improved and increased – and made detection an almost insurmountable task…when you can make a bomb out of a variety of harmless, every day items – that can be packed up separately and then assembled at the bombers convenience – only the criminal mind or highly trained expert would know what to really look for.

i know it’s just easier to attribute the evil in the world – and the need to attempt to respond to it – all on obama…

My girlfriend and I had the opportunity to go to Antigua back in February—absolutely wonderful and if you ever get the chance to go—GO! On the day of departure, we purchased a couple of bottles of hot sauce (yeah, the stuff you use in the kitchen to season food)—purchased in the store at the Antigua airport. We placed the two bottles in our luggage and thought nothing of it.

When we get to the Newark, New Jersey airport and go through security, the x-ray machine picks up these two bottles—security will not allow them through—two bottles of hot sauce.

We are informed that had the bottles been of a smaller size, they would have allowed them through—and I’m thinking—it’s the same freakin’ substance, what does the bottle size matter?? Also, had we put the bottles in our carry-on luggage as opposed to the on-board luggage, they would have gotten through.

Here, a product is sold in the store at one airport which is obviously going to be transported in luggage to yet another airport, but that airport will not allow it through.

So, you have to wonder—how on earth did these extremists in the 9/11 incident breeze right through? ?? ???

If I voiced my op on the last line of your post , this topic would morph into a Truther rant.
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All I’ll say is——- No war in the History of Mankind was caused by a Single Individual’s accidental Action.
War, has always been created by two or more “Not Gathered” in “His” name.———– There ain’t no such a dam thing as “An Accident”

to modify my comment – yes there were incidents of hijacking prior to 9/11…none resulting in an attack on American soil. And, ‘oddly’ enough, most of the hijackers would not have been profiled as they appear to be American citizens – with fairly non-ethnic names…

I checked your list the only flight that was hijacked in the US was a Fed-X plane and the TSA would never been able to stop that. The only other planes were boarded over seas not in the US.
The best record lies with the Israelis. They profile from the moment you purchase you ticket. That is what we should do.

I checked your list the only flight that was hijacked in the US was a Fed-X plane and the TSA would never been able to stop that. The only other planes were boarded over seas not in the US.
The best record lies with the Israelis. They profile from the moment you purchase you ticket. That is what we should do.

OBAMA NOW! ! ! ! !

—–look at the list a little closer…there were many more incidents that originated right here on our soil…the little American flag icon in front of the entry is the clue… 🙂

zellersgs, in the 1980’s only two flights involved flights with US carriers and if you would have read the information instead of looking just at the flags you would know both of those flights originated over seas.

1985: Lebanese Shi’a Amal hijackers divert TWA Flight 847 from Athens to Beirut with 153 people on board. The stand-off ends after Israel frees 31 Lebanese prisoners. Among the passengers was famous Greek singer Demis Roussos. US Navy diver Robert Stethem is tortured and murdered. 1986: 22 people are killed when Pakistani security forces storm Pan Am Flight 73 at Karachi, carrying 400 passengers and crew after a 16-hour siege.
The hijackers did not board in the USA. Those hijackers were not Americans. Those are the only hijackings involving American own planes in the 80′ The last commercial airline hijacked by an American was in 1978. Back then there was little to no security. When I started flying you just walked to your gate with your friends and family no security checks at all. So it was fairly easy to carry a weapon on board and highjack a plane. The 9/11 hijackers carried box cutters which has little metal and easily could pass through.

zellersgs, requesting a privet screening is no less intrusive. It’s not about people watching. It’s about being touched no matter who you are. These regulations you keep bringing up mean nothing. In the government and I’m sure in some private companies you have unwritten rules/instructions that you are told to follow, regardless of what a written rule says. I do work for the Government and have seen many violations, from not following proper procedures and smoking inside to sleeping for two hours. People who work for TSA have been fired for stealing along with baggage handlers. Where do you get this idea that everyone is following the rules at the TSA.

zellersgs, requesting a privet screening is no less intrusive. It’s not about people watching. It’s about being touched no matter who you are. These regulations you keep bringing up mean nothing. In the government and I’m sure in some private companies you have unwritten rules/instructions that you are told to follow, regardless of what a written rule says. I do work for the Government and have seen many violations, from not following proper procedures and smoking inside to sleeping for two hours. People who work for TSA have been fired for stealing along with baggage handlers. Where do you get this idea that everyone is following the rules at the TSA.

SING A SONG WITH OBAMA NOW! !

—-i’m a little confused…at first you are fussing because they supposedly were exempt from the search and now you are worried about invading their privacy…

which way is it – are they doing too much or not enough? are you plainly saying that while they basically ‘assault’ seemingly innocent passengers – and receive horrible press over it – they continue to do that but are giving a pass to the women in burqas – which is also bad press?

i don’t think anyone is naive enough to believe that ******** doesn’t happen at any job…

zellersgs, I guess you are the clueless one. You have repeatedly posted the TSA rules. What I am trying to get across is the fact just because it is written doesn’t mean they follow the rules as written. People break rules, just as they go around. How many students follow all the rules as written?

I will say Obama does not think he has to follow the Wars Power Act for one. he seems to think that bombing someone is not involved in hostility. That is a hostel act. No if ans or buts about it.

zellersgs, I guess you are the clueless one. You have repeatedly posted the TSA rules. What I am trying to get across is the fact just because it is written doesn’t mean they follow the rules as written. People break rules, just as they go around. How many students follow all the rules as written?

—-and i agree with you on that point…as i have issue with follow some rules i get that…however, since these folks are front and center in the public eye at this point due to the fact they are following the latest guidelines it seems that some are following the rules…and more often than not, students do follow the rules just as most citizens comply in a fairly reasonable manner…

my argument was: are you saying that they are more likely to target people to search that they KNOW, based upon previous new stories, will be a ‘big deal’ and will permit the burka covered women a free pass out of some fear of public backlash? that just doesn’t seem logical…that was my point…

I will say Obama does not think he has to follow the Wars Power Act for one. he seems to think that bombing someone is not involved in hostility. That is a hostel act. No if ans or buts about it.

HUG OBAMA NOW! ! ! !
—-the other is for those with more internal and classified information to make that determination…right or wrong, my understanding was that it was an attempt to keep a measure of genocide from occurring…

I’m sure some have been getting these in their inboxes.
Sure seems to fit this scenario.
Ask a liberal to guess who came up with this marvelous, well-meaning program:
We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning a living.
The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and be for the good of all.
Therefore, we demand:… an end to the power of the financial interests. We demand profit sharing in big business.
We demand a broad extension of care for the aged. We demand… the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of national, state, and municipal governments. In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our entire system of public education..
. We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents…
The government must undertake the improvement of public health—by protecting mother and child, by prohibiting child labor… by the greatest possible support for all clubs concerned with the physical education of youth.
We combat the… materialistic spirit within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of the common good before the individual good.

Yep, it was the Nazi Party, Munich, February 1920.
Obama is the Reincarnation of “His” Mentors.
,,, Also, Remember, That it was a Repug-less-nuts that started the fall of “We The People’s” Constitutional Rights & Freedoms. As in: There isn’t an ounce of Collective Integrity, Honor, & Decency In Dot Gov & all agencies combined. I claim allegiance to No Party . Only to the party of True American Honor.
Dems are the scum under the armpits of Repugs.

History can be a great teacher FireMall but very few seem willing to learn from it. Many of us have been aware of the stomach churning parallels to the beginnings of Nazi Germany for years and the TSA moronic practices are a prime example but most seem to have no clue, partly because accurate history has practically disappeared from the public school curriculum but that too is only one aspect of this insidious cancer.
It wasn’t just one party or the other that began to chip away at our Constitution and it began a long time ago aided and abetted by many in the judicial branch. No matter who has held the reins of power there has been an undercurrent of subversion and political/bureaucratic collusion to expand federal government control into all areas with the ultimate goal of total subjugation of the American people to the rule of a few “elite” who pretend with great oratory to only want to do what is best for us. Again, that great orator Adolph Hitler comes to mind. Even when there has been a significant change of majority in the house or senate such as in the last election, the clamor for higher taxation and more regulation continues so regardless of the lip service put out for public consumption by the ‘new kids on the block’ the back door and closed room deals still erode our freedom. It has reached the point where our country is standing at the edge of the precipice with one foot precariously hanging over the abyss of slavery and it may already be too late to stop the government juggernaut from shoving We the People over the edge. Only a gigantic house cleaning of the traitors from the political top down, including the plethora of self-perpetuating federal regulatory agencies and left wing judiciary appointments will effectively reverse the trend. That would take a massive awakening and awareness to shake the people out of their complacency and apathy. I do not see that happening, at least not before it is too late to make the changes in a peaceful way.

As to this article, just to mix it up even more, the state of Texas decided that the TSA screening was not using commonsense and has passed (or trying to pass) a more rational screening procedure for their airports. Guess what, the federal government is threatening to close down any flights into Texas if they do this. So, as of now, it is on hold.

So, to me, it looks like the last thread of human dignity, which is the privacy of our body, is no longer ours to retain as it is now OK for a total stranger to strip search one of us if they think something is amiss. Guess where all of the sexual deviates in our country now want to get a job?

Stripping down a 95 year old lady in a wheel chair who is a terminal cancer patient is so astonishingly over the top, that it just blows my mind. The terrorists have really done a job on this country and our federal government almost looks like it is in collusion with them and doing exactly what these idiots want to see happen. As a result of 911, we have created so much more bureacracy that is adding to the skyrocketing cost of government which is undermining our country from within. The sad part about it is that most of it is unnecessary if the government would just step back and look at what others are doing for border security and security at airports, etc. and learn from their successes. Instead, we are using the typical government brute force ways of dealing with our security at airports while being less motivated to secure our borders, particularly our southern borders from illegals and potential terrorists.

It is another example of incompetence within the Obama administration. These people are so into themselves that they cannot see the forest for the trees.

I would LOVE to see Obama try to stop flights into Texas. We are one of the few states that still has jobs. He would forfeit all of our tax revenue. He would experience a lot of fallout from trying to cut us off from the union. There are a lot of us Texans that would just as soon secede anyway. Don’t give us more ammunition.

Sure would make life difficult for American and Southwest, two Texas airlines. They are not government owned entities. Just let the feds try to stop their flights into and out of Texas. This is just starting to get interesting, Cato.

AMEN! Well put. Even with all this TSA supposed emphasis on national security, Homeland Security (what an expensive joke) is doing nothing to close our southern border to the massive invasion taking place every day and night. In fact they are putting handcuffs on the agents who are trying to do their jobs, at great personal risk by the way. We catch some of them then we turn them loose so they can try again a night or two later after they have somehow come up with another thousand to three thousand dollars to pay some coyote to guide them across again then frequently abandon them in the desert. Have to wonder where they get all that money when they are supposedly so poor?

One person that is almost always left out of discussions like this is the great Fredrick Douglas…the former slave–and he minced no words:

“Find out just what people will quietly submit to, and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”

God bless
“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.” Ronald Reagan President of the United States

That is a reference to a provision in the treaty where Texas joined the union…we have the right to split into 5 states…which of course, would give us 10 senators instead of just 2….ie a 5x the clout in the Senate.

That idea does come up on occasion…normally dubbed Split-hood.

No serious move to do that though…but, guess it might be an option some point.

The TX Legislature meets every two years and the session just ended…as well as a special session called by Gov Perry.

Who knows, he might just call another for some unfinished business…like sticking his finger in Obama’s eye with a TSA bill.

Thanks
God bless
“Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.” Sam Houston, General, and 2nd President of Texas.

Our government has made this country worse than the Soviet Union ever was. Perhaps the wrong choice of words, our government under control/influence of global socialists has brought this upon us.
The constitution called for small and very limited government. TSA, IRS, ATF, and nearly all government agencies are unconstitutional. Most laws and regulations are unconstitutional in the real intended sense.
We have all been deceived, manipulated, and lied to.

Our DIRECTION is wrong as is the destination it will take us to if we continue.

Much different than, for example, where in the old USSR, so I have been told, it was illegal to stand next to someone on the street corner as that was an assembly and the government feared what might be discussed, or at every gathering of any kind a KGB agent had to be present, etc.

We are not there…so we have MANY tools to use…thank God.
…preserved for us for that very reason.

Read again, if you are of a mind to, the list in the declaration of independence of what King George did.

The Founders were well aware of worst case scenarios…and left us MANY tools to use.

JR, maybe you better come out of your cave and look around. We are in grips of a Federal bureaucracy controlled by a Muslim socialist who has no regard for the Constitution. He ignores our laws, the courts, and Congress. He is a tyrant in ever sense of the word. Work to vote him out of office and encourage everyone you know to do the same. Maybe we can save some of our freedoms and laws.

>> so stupidly eager for their federal paycheck that they have suppressed any vestige of common sense they have ever had? <<

Go to the head of the class.

As for diapers, I can’t address the type in question, but when our kids were small, all we had were cloth diapers. You didn’t just dispose of them, you emptied and washed them; and yeah, they were weapons of the first order. ;>}

The way the regulations are written, you have to make the decision not to fly BEFORE you get chosen for enhanced screening. Once chosen, you cannot opt out by deciding not to fly. If the purpose is to prevent bombs from getting on the plane, why would these regulations be written this way? TSA is not law enforcement. Their job is to keep the plane and its passengers safe, not to catch terrorists. That falls under the purview of the FBI. At least the FBI is a little more selective in their hiring processes.

Of course, I don’t know if they would follow through with a pat-down on someone who changed their mind about flying. Does anyone have any stories of that happening?