If i go by the mentality of Kmt_sesh, How he knew that the statue in this art was 22 feet tall???? assumption based on his delusion?

No one knows what height of this seated statue in djehutehotep tomb depiction

What you call kmt_sesh delusion is fact based information. Had you actually visited the link he provided you would know that. Here is the link again http://www.osirisnet...utyhotep_02.htm If you scoll down you find a translation of the inscription on the wall and the first part says:

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Following a statue of 13 cubits of stone of Hatnub.

That makes the statue about 21 ft 8 in high so yes there is knowledge of the height of the statue. Because we know the height and using the wall releif of the moving of the statue we can determine they were average sized humans doing the moving.

egyptian lad said:

Another thing that i wanted to show from this comparison too:

That u and kmt_sesh take in conisderation the image of djehuthotep tomb art , But u ignore the art of rekhmire tomb

Rekhmire tomb arts were all about the giants of early ancient egypt, It tells with details how ancient egypt was built

In rekhmire tomb too" You find many deocrations are distorted, Some guys deliberately distored it to hide lot of ancient egypt's secrets".

It's not about anything that I or kmt_sesh ignore but what you have yet to realize. In many cases the oversize images weren't made that way to indicate height but to indicate stature.

AA LOGIC
They didn't use thousands of workers - oops forgot about the work camps
There's no evidence for ramps - You found one?...Bummer
Well we know they didn't use ancient tools to cut and shape the stones - Chisel marks? CrapsI still say aliens built them!

On 1898: A mummy of human was found in area named Jabalin,on the red sea, After news spread over discovery of this mummy, The archaeologists rushed to put it in some coffin to claim it was mummy of KING SO!

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This is for everyone's benefit, not just egyptian lad's. Egyptian lad found my blog at WordPress and posted a lot of the same stuff there that he's posted here, so it would seem he likes to be wrong in many different places on the internet. In any case the above quote is also something he posted at my blog, and it was something I'd not seen before so I did some digging. Turns out this "Jabalain mummy" is popular on lots of web pages devoted to Muslim studies. I don't know how it originated as such but the information, not surprisingly, is incorrect.

Many Muslims (and biblical scholars, for that matter) see Ramesses II as the Pharaoh of Exodus. The "Jabalain mummy" is supposed to be Ramesses II. However, as is well known, Ramesses II's mummy certainly wasn't found at Jabalain. It was one of numerous royal mummies buried in the secondary burial cache and Third Intermediate Period tomb designated DB320 (or TT320). This tomb was officially cleared in 1881 by Émile Brugsch, who was worried that nearby villagers would plunder the tomb if he didn't work fast. He worked very fast. Taking few notes and recording little, Brugsch and his team cleared the tomb and sent all of the mummies and burial goods north to Cairo.

There is no such thing as the "Jabalain mummy."

Words of wisdom from Richard Clopton:For every credibility gap there is a gullibility fill.

What you call kmt_sesh delusion is fact based information. Had you actually visited the link he provided you would know that. Here is the link again http://www.osirisnet...utyhotep_02.htm If you scoll down you find a translation of the inscription on the wall and the first part says:

That makes the statue about 21 ft 8 in high so yes there is knowledge of the height of the statue. Because we know the height and using the wall releif of the moving of the statue we can determine they were average sized humans doing the moving.

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Bravo!

See what happens when you actually dig into it and do a bit of research? (That's aimed more at egyptian lad than you, Quaentum.)

Words of wisdom from Richard Clopton:For every credibility gap there is a gullibility fill.

I see... Because, yeah, the structure of human muscles and ligaments wouldn't allow for easy movement at large sizes (like the asinine 20 metres he's suggesting...), human bones aren't strong enough, even scaled, to support the weight of such a large body, the human lungs, even scaled, would be insufficient to take in the necessary oxygen to sustain such a large man... The list goes on: 20-metre-high humans just aren't biologically possible.

True, and egyptian lad doesn't seem to understand that a 20 meter/65.6 foot tall human being (hypothetically speaking of course) would weigh in at the upper limits of quadripedal dinosaurs such as Argentinosaurus. No bipedal dinosaur ever made it to such great weights and size.

cormac

The city and citizens, which you yesterday described to us in fiction, we will now transfer to the world of reality. It shall be the ancient city of Athens, and we will suppose that the citizens whom you imagined, were our veritable ancestors, of whom the priest spoke; they will perfectly harmonise, and there will be no inconsistency in saying that the citizens of your republic are these ancient Athenians. -- Plato's Timaeus

It is becoming increasingly clear that you are trying to validate religious beliefs by the giant tale: the concept of giants itself, your use of the term ‘pharaonic’ Egyptians in earlier posts, God destroying evil giants with storms, man created from mud…etc.all point to the origin of your concept of giants. In the process you tried to push aside any obstacle that stands in the way of your giants, be it historical facts, the integrity of Egyptologists, or different sciences from archaeology to genetics, passing by biology, physiology, climatology, geology…Religion and science do not mix well!

Are you serious about the electrical storms? When did you ever witness in Egypt a thunderstorm of any magnitude resembling the pictures you posted?

As for the ‘older Alexandria’ which was destroyed, you are confusing Alexandria with Menouthis and Herakleion which were destroyed by tsunamis and liquefaction of the sea floor following earthquakes. Only parts of Alexandria were destroyed between 200 and 600 AD:

“On August 21, in A.D. 365, the sea suddenly drained out of the harbor, ships keeled over, fish flopped in the sand. Townspeople wandered into the weirdly emptied space. Then, a massive tsunami surged into the city, flinging water and ships over the tops of Alexandria’s houses, according to a contemporaneous description by Ammianus Marcellinus based on eyewitness accounts. That disaster, which may have killed 50,000 people in Alexandria alone, ushered in a two-century period of seismic activity and rising sea levels that radically altered the Egyptian coastline”. http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Raising-Alexandria.html#ixzz28vPve6at

As for the unfinished statues etc, you are assuming that they were all abandoned at the same time and for the same reason, though they date back to totally different epochs, another grasp at straw!

As for the outer casing of the pyramids at Giza, the stones were used to build Cairo; actually Mohammed Ali considered using the stones of the pyramids to build barrages on the Nile in 1834. Only the enormous cost entailed dissuaded him from using them. No giants were around when either Cairo or the barrages were built.

One last thing, maybe a funny aside, but I have serious doubts that you are Egyptian, aside from your disdain and disregard to the history of 'your' country, any Egyptian seeing the curved knife in the illustration posted by Abramelin would not have thought ‘belt’, it is almost identical to the curved knife used to chop herbs and ‘meloukheyya’, our national dish!

Its you who are wrong, There is an entire history of ancient egypt lost

When the giants of egypt turned evil, enslaving and beating,destroying people everywhere,God did punish them in egypt " their capital", Ancient egypt was destroyed by Sandy and Electrical storms such like the these storms:

Destructive killer storms did destroy the giants of Egypt and Many monuments from their civilization were saved, maybe a sign from God

If you want proof for the storms that hit ancient egypt:

Well, The area of Giza pyramid hill was covered by sands,.....The sphinx and its temple were all covered by sands, Even the lower body of pyramids were covered by sands too and giza quarries were also under the sands.either the quarries of aswan, unfinished obelisk and obelisks cutting place were all covered by sands.....addition for many other monuments.

That means" Egypt was under a killer storms that made many things became under the sands".

Statues have been covered by the sands:

Plus: The alexanderia city ( which existed on the days of giants and was their harbor to mediterranaon sea), many ancient egyptian monuments were drown on the coasts:

How do you explain that " Many unfinished works were left from ancient egypt too"?

Isnt that mean" ancient egyptians were suddenly stopped" which refers to their destruction and people of our size inherited egypt after them, They had no power to deal with the left unfinished stuff

Unfinished obelisk been covered by sands:

Unfinished statue head:

Unfinished pyramids

there are many unfinished pyramids in these areas:

Abu rawash

Abu sir

Saqqara

mediam

my suggestion for removing the cover of pyramids:

First suggestion: the cover of great pyramids of giza were not all completed, Giants were destroyed while they were working on it, So millions of white limestones were left around the giza pyramids

Second suggestion: the storms did hit the pyramids and most cover were fallen.

Third suggestion: They claimed that some strong earthquakes hit ancient egypt and so stones were fallen down.

People from ancient times did go up to the pyramid to grab the casing stones out, they did use the falling stones around pyramids and cut them into smaller stones, and so romans,arabs,turks done.

"There are online Youtube videos showing a handful of people pulling 6 ton stones under controlled conditions. You're just Wrong!!!"

Oh yeah pulling 6 ton stones in some days they would move it some meters right?

How would they put a rope under the stone???? you find it so easy???

How would they lift the large stone and put on the wood holder??? easy to do??

How would they move the stone to put on the angle they want??? easy??

what about the lifting for 140 meter??? oh they pulled it to 140 meter height? like suggestion of sick guys LOL what a joke

Dude, The construction of pyramids>>>>> Only giant humans were able to do like what the ancient egyptians recorded

U should know there are millions of large stones in egypt, not couple of thousands.....its millions....The number its self is a shock

Ummm...... Statues got buried by the... Wind??? There is no need of super storms when there is thousands of years of wind involved to bury stuff.

And your whole post does nothing to answer the question you quoted. Which is. "How did the Arabs tear down the cladding stones and move them to Cairo if only Giants could have done the initial work? All the Arabs had was men and camels.

Pulling a stone of several tons up 10 feet or 10000 feet is the same amount of work per foot. It is only the time needed that is a variable. If you lift a stone up one course and then slide it and lift it again up the next course the Work needed for each course does not Magically increase. You don't need 5 men for the lowest step and 2000 for the highest. It does not work that way. And using ramps, the ancients would have spread that work per course over a long distance and it would have been a fraction of the effort needed to lift a stone straight up.

I am assuming you have no physics or other practical training or you would already know this. I'm also assuming you've never done a day of physical labor in your life, or again, you'd know what an average human can drag and lift.

So what training do you have?

Here at Intel we make processors on 12 inch wafers. And, the individual processors on the wafers are called die. And, I am employed to check these die. That is why I am the DieChecker.

At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid. - Friedrich Nietzsche

Qualifications? This is cryptozoology, dammit! All that is required is the spirit of adventure. - Night Walker

One last thing, maybe a funny aside, but I have serious doubts that you are Egyptian, aside from your disdain and disregard to the history of 'your' country, any Egyptian seeing the curved knife in the illustration posted by Abramelin would not have thought ‘belt’, it is almost identical to the curved knife used to chop herbs and ‘meloukheyya’, our national dish!

So it wasn't used in the mummification process, like some 'surgical knife'?

So it wasn't used in the mummification process, like some 'surgical knife'?

But it was a nice way of saying I was wrong, lol.

No, I am not saying you're wrong. An efficient knife model may find new functions. The curved shaped knife once used for mummification is now used for chopping herbs. Now that sounds terribly wrong, but Egyptians were always practical people!

I've consulted all the sages I could find in yellow pages but there aren't many of them. - The Alan Parsons Project
Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do so. - Bertrand RussellIgnorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong. - Thomas JeffersonAnybody like Coleridge?

No, I am not saying you're wrong. An efficient knife model may find new functions. The curved shaped knife once used for mummification is now used for chopping herbs. Now that sounds terribly wrong, but Egyptians were always practical people!

Here is a woman demonstrating how to prepare that dish I dare not pronounce (Molokhia according to this video, but I saw like 5 other spellings):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4220fThLPrE&feature=related

And it's a big step from mummification to preparing a meal that makes my mouth water, lol.

Is there a reason for posting in bold font as a standard posting procedure Egyptian lad?

Is there a lick of evidence of these fantastical stories you present? You seem to fall short on some of the basic facts of Egyptology, so one might ask, are you even knowledgable enough on what you are presenting to even put forward an argument you can support?

One last thing, maybe a funny aside, but I have serious doubts that you are Egyptian, aside from your disdain and disregard to the history of 'your' country, any Egyptian seeing the curved knife in the illustration posted by Abramelin would not have thought ‘belt’, it is almost identical to the curved knife used to chop herbs and ‘meloukheyya’, our national dish!

I was wondering about that myself. He seems not to be aware you have regular sandstorms there.

Is there a reason for posting in bold font as a standard posting procedure Egyptian lad?

Is there a lick of evidence of these fantastical stories you present? You seem to fall short on some of the basic facts of Egyptology, so one might ask, are you even knowledgable enough on what you are presenting to even put forward an argument you can support?

And that wedge shaped blade looks kind of unpractical for cutting a body open.

I swear I've seen something like that displayed as an autopsy knife somewhere (unless it was that picture) but it was probably in a movie, in which case I've seen mole traps used as prop medical instruments before too.