Ok Mr Pope,I`m willing to make a compromise. I can be a prick sometimes. I just don`t like sugarcoating shit. And like I said I like shaking things up once in a while. And I gotta say I wouldn`t have minded see the Don Dokken show that you did. I realize I`m a little harsh. As a matter of fact I`ll listen to ' Up From the Ashes' as soon as possible and try a keep an open mind. As for the John Rocker comment I got a good laugh.