Thanks Lobster, that's a *great* update to the front page - there's a lot of stuff I wasn't even aware of that's very easily findable now. (And I've been using and trying various Puppy versions for a few months now, so that's surprising!)

Thnaks again for taking the time to do this - it's the sort of thing most of us couldn't have pulled off on our own.

As to puppylinux.org, there is a downloads page for community-built ISOs: http://puppylinux.org/user/downloads.php?cat_id=3

In the future, we can present side-by-side in the front pages the official and community builds of Puppy.

As to 1 vs 2, it's mainly a Linux kernel difference (2.4 vs 2.6), which means that the 2+ versions are able to handle newer devices. So users of old devices/PCs may be better off starting with the latest build of version 1, which is 1.09CE. Enhancing the version 1 build is the concern of 1.10CE effort described by Lobster.

If you want to help out in puppylinux.org, just register and email Puppian (the admin there) that you want to be admin, too._________________Puppy user since Oct 2004. Want FreeOffice? Get the sfs (English only).

What you need is a dog in a tux. Think about it. That would take care of Tux, Puppy, and business._________________Between depriving a man of one hour from his life and depriving him of his life there exists only a difference of degree. --Muad'Dib

. . . please change the hat
Perhaps a tie? What do Business Pups wear?
Also some have said 'please no dogs'

Actually, the complete pup illustration (helmet and all) came from a clip-art library for which I own a legitimate license.

I'm not a graphic artist, but I can rework it with a tie and/or another hat (a Fedora? Not applicable Linux-wise, but cool otherwise) if you give me a few days.

As for the "no dogs" folks - I think those people need to take that up with Barry (and get a life!) - A dog is just a natural fit given that he chose to name the project "Puppy Linux". Dogs should strongly offend no one but Mohammedans, and I care less and less about what they find offensive.

Lobster wrote:

Colour scheme and dog are great
I just do not think business has to be war . . .
How about a blue non combatants hat?

Really, the choice was just opportunistic. Business is interesting partly because it contains elements of war (which is why SunTzu's Art of War is read mostly as a business book these days), diplomacy, cooperation/teamwork, and virtually every other aspect of human relationships. In this case, the tagline "ready for action!" just jumped out at me as the obvious choice, as it seemed to fit the illustration so well - and emphasize that PuppyPro includes the essentials professionals need today.

We could lose the helmet, but how about maybe the helmet *and* a tie? I personally don't think of the helmet as at all offensive or hostile. If the helmet is gone, we'll need another tagline, because, after all, nothing says "ready for action" like a TIE! (Don't get me wrong, I actually *like* ties, I just think the helmet fit the whole theme better.)

(warning: minor political rant ahead, certainly NOT intended to provoke a flamewar, or even a response) As for the blue (UN) helmet - No. Just no. Any effort I want to be associated with must be far more honest, trustworthy, moral, and effective than the UN. (See the London Times' scathing analysis of just last week to review how evil the UN has been in recent years (well-written and probably worth a read regardless of your view of the UN): http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-531-2368626-531,00.htm)

We could lose the helmet, but how about maybe the helmet *and* a tie? I personally don't think of the helmet as at all offensive or hostile. If the helmet is gone, we'll need another tagline, because, after all, nothing says "ready for action" like a TIE! (Don't get me wrong, I actually *like* ties, I just think the helmet fit the whole theme better.)

(warning: minor political rant ahead, certainly NOT intended to provoke a flamewar, or even a response) As for the blue (UN) helmet - No. Just no. Any effort I want to be associated with must be far more honest, trustworthy, moral, and effective than the UN. (See the London Times' scathing analysis of just last week to review how evil the UN has been in recent years (well-written and probably worth a read regardless of your view of the UN): http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-531-2368626-531,00.htm)

The helmet will just be an unnecessary distraction. Modern business success is about
speed and strategy and timing, not large mass and raw power, that is the long-term
flawed strategy of MS and others. Puppy is kinda the MIghty Mouse of distros. How
about the dog's hair shown as if wind-blown due to motion?

As for ties, modern business less frequently requires them, and women in business
whom we'd also like to adopt Puppy rarely wear ties!

I would propose a cell phone/pda or a GPS or the like hanging from the Puppy's neck.

I am OK re. your rant re. the UN. It is less than a bad joke, it has disintegrated into a
divisive force in the world. Without massive reform it deserves no funding or respect.

1) After checking out the beta, do you think I should include XFCE4 as it was in the alpha for the Professional version or just leave it at a smaller size with JWM only.

I'm just looking for a general consensus. Thanks in advance!

2.) I know the idea has been tossed around some on various threads about implementing a splash screen for Puppy rather than the numerous lines of scrolling text. If someone would like to step up to the challenge it would be greatly appreciated, especially if we could have the option of seeing the text (it is quite useful)._________________Visit the Puppy Linux Video Tutorials @ http://rhinoweb.us

I took a punt and went and looked at your upload directory he used, and at the second download the checksums matched.

I love it

Here we are, a screen cap of it running in XOrg at 1280x1024 (I think). There is just the one at the moment. It was taken after I did a couple of minor changes, and before I got stuck into downloading the extra apps I felt I would want, and do some customisation. Here is the full size image

You did a great job with it, Rhino. Thank you _________________Have you noticed editing is always needed for the inevitable typos that weren't there when you hit the "post" button?

1) After checking out the beta, do you think I should include XFCE4 as it was in the alpha for the Professional version or just leave it at a smaller size with JWM only.

I'm just looking for a general consensus. Thanks in advance!

It really depends on how much more space it takes up, and if the additional bloat would slow it down any. I guess only you could answer that, mate.

I would like to see it. Would it be worth considering providing it as a dot pup?

Documentation on it might also be cool, to explain concisely why an alternative Window Manager could be handy, don't you think?

Rhino wrote:

2.) I know the idea has been tossed around some on various threads about implementing a splash screen for Puppy rather than the numerous lines of scrolling text. If someone would like to step up to the challenge it would be greatly appreciated, especially if we could have the option of seeing the text (it is quite useful).

Pizzasgood is working on such a thingy, we talked about it at length in another thread and PM. Sounds like it might be what you are looking for.

I believe the concept would make it truly professional from the visual point; however it needs to be able to offer for selection whatever is available in pup_save files without having to be enabled to so do, perhaps?

AFAIK he is incorporating a similar one for shutdown as well.

We should wait and see, I guess

Thanks for your work, didn't see your post when I replied to MU. And I'm being frustrated again by the forum server's "Critical error" message again I did write this reply as soon as I posted the previous one in reply to Mark.

Richard in Ozzie-land_________________Have you noticed editing is always needed for the inevitable typos that weren't there when you hit the "post" button?

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