mikemoto:Can't we just say that both Greenwald and Gregory are asshats?

I normally halfway like both of them, but right about now I'd like to kick their insufferable attention-whoring douchebag asses. David Gregory is clearly overly compliant with most of his sources, and Greenwald isn't a journalist at all. He's an essayist who only writes leftist op-ed pieces. NTTAWWT but writing political essays doesn't make you a journalist. Alexander Cockburn wasn't a journalist any more than Norman Podhoretz was.

Freedom of the Press is not immunity. If someone (Snowden) commits a crime and you report on what they give you, you have not committed a crime. If you incite someone like him to commit a crime to get you information for your story, you *have* committed a crime. (I'm not saying that this happened here, but the idea that a journalist cannot have committed a crime in writing a story is ridiculous.)

Larry Mahnken:Freedom of the Press is not immunity. If someone (Snowden) commits a crime and you report on what they give you, you have not committed a crime. If you incite someone like him to commit a crime to get you information for your story, you *have* committed a crime. (I'm not saying that this happened here, but the idea that a journalist cannot have committed a crime in writing a story is ridiculous.)

The crime would not be in writing the story, but in soliciting the original criminal actions (in this case, the leak).

StopLurkListen:Biological Ali: The crime would not be in writing the story, but in soliciting the original criminal actions (in this case, the leak).

Citation needed. No, really. Cite the law.

Before I can give a specific answer, I need to know what exactly you're confused about. Do you think that merely writing the story would be a crime (in the US at least), or that it's legal to solicit specific criminal actions from others?

Biological Ali:StopLurkListen: Biological Ali: The crime would not be in writing the story, but in soliciting the original criminal actions (in this case, the leak).

Citation needed. No, really. Cite the law.

Before I can give a specific answer, I need to know what exactly you're confused about. Do you think that merely writing the story would be a crime (in the US at least), or that it's legal to solicit specific criminal actions from others?

Biological Ali:StopLurkListen: Biological Ali: The crime would not be in writing the story, but in soliciting the original criminal actions (in this case, the leak).

Citation needed. No, really. Cite the law.

Before I can give a specific answer, I need to know what exactly you're confused about. Do you think that merely writing the story would be a crime (in the US at least), or that it's legal to solicit specific criminal actions from others?

Don't be obtuse. You wrote "the crime would be [...] in soliciting", which means you are claiming there exists a law to indict and convict Greenwald.

Nabb1:Biological Ali: StopLurkListen: Biological Ali: The crime would not be in writing the story, but in soliciting the original criminal actions (in this case, the leak).

Citation needed. No, really. Cite the law.

Before I can give a specific answer, I need to know what exactly you're confused about. Do you think that merely writing the story would be a crime (in the US at least), or that it's legal to solicit specific criminal actions from others?

How do you define "solicit"?

Well, I would define it in this context as knowingly trying to get somebody to commit a specific crime, that one can reasonably believe wouldn't have been committed without your intervention.

Biological Ali:Nabb1: Biological Ali: StopLurkListen: Biological Ali: The crime would not be in writing the story, but in soliciting the original criminal actions (in this case, the leak).

Citation needed. No, really. Cite the law.

Before I can give a specific answer, I need to know what exactly you're confused about. Do you think that merely writing the story would be a crime (in the US at least), or that it's legal to solicit specific criminal actions from others?

How do you define "solicit"?

Well, I would define it in this context as knowingly trying to get somebody to commit a specific crime, that one can reasonably believe wouldn't have been committed without your intervention.

So every law enforcement sting operation is not only invalid, but every law enforcement officer involved in them should be brought up on charges of [insert citation of law]