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Most recent forum messagesenFri, 11 Jan 2013 13:11:16 GMTJive SBS 4.5.6.0 (http://jivesoftware.com/products/clearspace/)2013-01-11T13:11:16ZenRe: Can anyone help identify this bone from a beach in Wales please?http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/26086?tstart=0#26086
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:50b2e239-19a7-4921-8b29-ebe20060fb55] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>Hello,</p><p>Thanks for this. Yes, I must agree with you, the vertebra belonged to a sheep-like animal. Having access to a reference collection is of great help when trying to identify bones.</p><p>Best wishes,</p><p>Florin</p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:50b2e239-19a7-4921-8b29-ebe20060fb55] -->Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:11:16 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/26086?tstart=0#26086Florin - Museum ID team2013-01-11T13:11:16Z4 years, 7 months ago0Re: Can anyone help identify this bone from a beach in Wales please?http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/26085?tstart=0#26085
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:89b15173-d50a-4f5e-85ab-3e4c7fc279ca] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>I am not convinced that this is cetecean and still favour an even toed ungulate. I have attached some photos from the reference collection to try and convince you! The first four are porpoise, the next two juvenile Reindeer and the final four are Roe Deer. All mammals have the crumpled appearance of the vertebral body where the epiphysis and body meet but the epiphyses fuse early in terrestrial mammals and late in cetacea so it is more commonly seen in cetacea, even into adulthood.<a href="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-26085-45428/Porpoise1.jpg"><img alt="Porpoise1.jpg" class="jive-image-thumbnail jive-image" height="211" onclick="" src="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-26085-45428/450-211/Porpoise1.jpg" width="450"/></a></p><p><a href="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-26085-45429/Porpoise2.jpg"><img alt="Porpoise2.jpg" class="jive-image-thumbnail jive-image" height="262" onclick="" src="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-26085-45429/450-262/Porpoise2.jpg" width="450"/></a><a href="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-26085-45430/Porpoise3.jpg"><img alt="Porpoise3.jpg" class="jive-image-thumbnail jive-image" height="600" onclick="" src="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-26085-45430/400-600/Porpoise3.jpg" width="400"/></a><a href="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-26085-45431/Porpoise4.jpg"><img alt="Porpoise4.jpg" class="jive-image-thumbnail jive-image" height="273" onclick="" src="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-26085-45431/450-273/Porpoise4.jpg" width="450"/></a><a href="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-26085-45432/ReindeerJuvenile.jpg"><img alt="ReindeerJuvenile.jpg" class="jive-image-thumbnail jive-image" height="299" onclick="" src="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-26085-45432/450-299/ReindeerJuvenile.jpg" width="450"/></a><a href="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-26085-45433/ReindeerJuvenile1.jpg"><img alt="ReindeerJuvenile1.jpg" class="jive-image-thumbnail jive-image" height="600" onclick="" src="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-26085-45433/400-600/ReindeerJuvenile1.jpg" width="400"/></a><a href="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-26085-45434/Roe+Deer1.jpg"><img alt="Roe Deer1.jpg" class="jive-image-thumbnail jive-image" height="155" onclick="" src="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-26085-45434/450-155/Roe+Deer1.jpg" width="450"/></a><a href="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-26085-45435/Roe+Deer2.jpg"><img alt="Roe Deer2.jpg" class="jive-image-thumbnail jive-image" height="299" onclick="" src="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-26085-45435/450-299/Roe+Deer2.jpg" width="450"/></a><a href="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-26085-45436/Roe+Deer3.jpg"><img alt="Roe Deer3.jpg" class="jive-image-thumbnail jive-image" height="299" onclick="" src="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-26085-45436/450-299/Roe+Deer3.jpg" width="450"/></a><a href="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-26085-45437/Roe+Deer4.jpg"><img alt="Roe Deer4.jpg" class="jive-image-thumbnail jive-image" height="600" onclick="" src="http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-26085-45437/391-600/Roe+Deer4.jpg" width="391"/></a></p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:89b15173-d50a-4f5e-85ab-3e4c7fc279ca] -->Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:30:19 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/26085?tstart=0#26085John2013-01-11T12:30:19Z4 years, 7 months ago10Re: Can anyone help identify this bone from a beach in Wales please?http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/26082?tstart=0#26082
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:115e5dfc-4406-4cf8-93ed-2ebfc6ee2041] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>Hello,</p><p>I agree it's a thoracic vertebra, but definitely not sheep but in fact cetacean. Porpoise is good for size. The very round disc with the crumpled pattern is characteristic for such animals.</p><p>Yours,</p><p>Florin</p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:115e5dfc-4406-4cf8-93ed-2ebfc6ee2041] -->Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:59:00 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/26082?tstart=0#26082Florin - Museum ID team2013-01-11T10:59:00Z4 years, 7 months ago20Re: Can anyone help identify this bone from a beach in Wales please?http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/26062?tstart=0#26062
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:cadd06fa-462e-4d4e-bdda-b34262db714b] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>Thank you. It's obviously been around a while so the texture is quite smooth and open where it's been eroded. Heather.</p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:cadd06fa-462e-4d4e-bdda-b34262db714b] -->Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:12:17 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/26062?tstart=0#26062familyNewman2013-01-10T13:12:17Z4 years, 7 months ago0Re: Can anyone help identify this bone from a beach in Wales please?http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/25926?tstart=0#25926
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:f634f4ec-b5d0-4a74-acb5-d7b2549062de] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>It is a vertebrae but a thoracic vertebrae rather than a caudal. Caudal (tail) vertebrae do not have large dorsal spines. Also on the side you can see the joint surface for a rib. The texture of the bone would suggest a sheep/deer to me rather than a popoise or dolphin.</p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:f634f4ec-b5d0-4a74-acb5-d7b2549062de] -->Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:35:35 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/25926?tstart=0#25926John2013-01-05T13:35:35Z4 years, 7 months ago40Re: Can anyone help identify this bone from a beach in Wales please?http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/25556?tstart=0#25556
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:38ec80e1-5fe0-4755-8535-38a77ec5cec4] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>Thank you for helping us, how amazing you can tell so much from a bone found on a beach! </p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:38ec80e1-5fe0-4755-8535-38a77ec5cec4] -->Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:19:14 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/25556?tstart=0#25556familyNewman2012-11-29T16:19:14Z4 years, 8 months ago0Re: Can anyone help identify this bone from a beach in Wales please?http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/25499?tstart=0#25499
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:2565f929-69be-40e7-a436-d2b1a9d02741] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>It is a vetrebra.</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p><span style="font-size: 7pt;">(My guess is a caudal vertebra of a porpoise, or other small whale. But, as whale skeletons are one of the few things I don't have under my bed, I have to leave it as a guess only.)</span></p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:2565f929-69be-40e7-a436-d2b1a9d02741] -->Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:25:03 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/25499?tstart=0#25499Episcophagus2012-11-26T22:25:03Z4 years, 8 months ago10Can anyone help identify this bone from a beach in Wales please?http://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/25493?tstart=0#25493
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:c4c35601-66e4-40b6-b66d-a2c3d8d7c699] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>My son is very curious to find out what this bone is found on a rocky beach on Llyn Peninsular, north west Wales.&#160; Thanks!</p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:c4c35601-66e4-40b6-b66d-a2c3d8d7c699] -->Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:29:50 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/25493?tstart=0#25493familyNewman2012-11-26T21:29:50Z4 years, 8 months ago70