Comments on: Marlon Byrd suspended for PEDshttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/25/marlon-byrd-suspended-for-peds/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Tue, 03 Mar 2015 23:04:31 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: williegyhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/25/marlon-byrd-suspended-for-peds/comment-page-1/#comment-320340
Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:40:43 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-320340MLB badly needs to eliminate PED use by players to protect it’s future. Unless they want a reputation like the WWE or Roller Derby they’ve got to make sure that fans know what they see on the field is real. Therefore, I’d propose a season long suspension (162 games) for a first offense by a player & a lifetime ban from professional baseball in the U.S. for any additional offense. I’d also strip a second offender of any individual records they may hold (like they do in track) & have frequent random drug testing for all players year round. If you make the penalties stiff enough & the testing frequent enough most PED use could be eliminated.
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Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:55:27 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-320306Ortiz should be next one caught. Watch the production go down now.
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Tue, 26 Jun 2012 12:24:32 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-320135Quick Moneyball tenets, OBP is highly undervalued and correlates strongest with runs scored, and DIPS theory is important for pitching. We get:

’96
OBP – 4th Overall (4th in AL)
FIP – 7th Overall (1st in AL)

’98
OBP – 1st Overall
FIP – 6th Overall (1st in AL)

’99
OBP – 2nd Overall (2nd in AL)
FIP – 5th Overall (1st in AL)

’00
OBP – 9th Overall (5th in AL)
FIP – 10th Overall (5h in AL)

Or to put it another way, if you were a fan at that time you couldn’t go two games without hearing how the Yanks tended to take a ton of pitches, thus causing the starter to leave the game early so the Yanks could get into the opposing teams bullpen. They took pitches, leading to tons of walks. They also had a pitching staff that struck out a lot of batters and didn’t walk a lot of people (until ’00 when players started getting older).

.Being going to Yankee games since 68 so either grown up or head over to Citi field

Congrats, not sure what the second half of that means though.

Lots of you band wagoners play both teams.

… where does this come from?

For the record, Joe Torre was more of a old school guy, went by his experience handling his players than by computer database sheets or bean counters.And he got the rings to prove it

Luis Sojo 5 rings > Ted Williams 0 rings, am i right?

And an organ grinder could have managed those late 90s Yankee teams to a WS. If Torre were such a genius, how could he lose the ’03 WS to the Marlins, while not having Rivera pitch in a pivotal Game 5, or lose a 3-0 series advantage to the Sox in ’04…

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Tue, 26 Jun 2012 04:40:55 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-320090Badintent- I agree. Many old schoolers go by gut, dabble in generic stats and have no interest in newfangled metrics. I too have been going to Yankee games along time, starting in the mid 70’s.
]]>By: badintenthttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/25/marlon-byrd-suspended-for-peds/comment-page-1/#comment-320081
Tue, 26 Jun 2012 04:15:06 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-320081Would like to see your hard copy proof that Yankees were run by comouter geeks instead of the General Steinbrenner. Don’t tell me Cashmen , that nut is too busy sleeping in tents.Being going to Yankee games since 68 so either grown up or head over to Citi field. Lots of you band wagoners play both teams. For the record, Joe Torre was more of a old school guy, went by his experience handling his players than by computer database sheets or bean counters.And he got the rings to prove it. All Brad Pitts has is a wacko for a wife.What’s up with her boobs anyway ? one movie they’re huge , the next , not so much.They get smaller, the lips get bigger. What up ??
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Tue, 26 Jun 2012 02:55:56 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-320056Nothing new with you making idiotic comments.
]]>By: toosanohttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/25/marlon-byrd-suspended-for-peds/comment-page-1/#comment-320042
Tue, 26 Jun 2012 02:05:31 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-320042They gave that to my wife for 5 years when she had breast cancer! WTF?
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Tue, 26 Jun 2012 02:02:11 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-320040Gynecomastia–I.e., breast enlargement .

Guess he didn’t want to have to wear a “bro” like Mr Costanza.

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Tue, 26 Jun 2012 01:09:02 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-320030another boston redsuk caught cheating, nothing new here
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Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:20:34 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-320018Geez, imagine how bad he would’ve been if he WASN’T using
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Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:13:09 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-320016Raised his average from .070 to .210 after the trade to the Sox. Hmm Big Papi was in a tear at the beginning of the year too.
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Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:30:27 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-319999So what if I told you that the Yanks were essentially using the tenets espoused in Moneyball well before Beane took over, and it helped them win the WS 4/5 years? Also you should reread my comment, because I basically end up defending E5.

And, I’m a Yanks fan so maybe stick around awhile, find out who roots for what team, or just sit back lurking and stop making yourself look foolish?

So if you want to try to smear Encarnacion, you should be careful, because you are indirectly smearing Cano.

Not necessarily, unless you are a fan of guilt by association.

[note, not saying E5 is on ‘roids]
E5 has had a huge power jump this year. Prior to this year (and SSS warning), his highest ISO across a full season was .215 in ’08 with the Reds (a .238 with the Jays in ’10 occurred, but only over 97 games). This year he has a .290 ISO (7th in MLB). That’s a huge jump, you have to admit.

Granted it helps he plays his game in Toronto which is HR friendly, and his HR/FB ratio is double last year’s and the highest of his career (18.9%). The #s, most likely, will taper off, but yes he’s always had power throughout his career.

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Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:31:08 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-319911“This is bigger than your normal PED suspension:”Tios is a suspension of a ballplayer in the twilight of a mediocre career- – one who was hanging on to the big leagues by his fingernails – only to have MLB stomp on those delicate fingers!
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Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:27:43 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-319909Those Cubbies catch all the breaks.
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Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:04:08 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-319902Seriously Randy, Encarnacion has always had the power to hit home runs. He hit home runs in spurts bur overall was just too erratic. In the off season, he took batting lessons from the same guy used by Cano. So if you want to try to smear Encarnacion, you should be careful, because you are indirectly smearing Cano.
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Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:00:58 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-319901It does what?
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Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:51:40 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-319893They also take it after a cycle steroids and to keep gains and prevent gyno
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Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:50:37 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-319891Tamoxifen is an antagonist of the estrogen receptor in breast tissue via its active metabolite, hydroxytamoxifen. In other tissues such as the endometrium, it behaves as an agonist, and thus may be characterized as a mixed agonist/antagonist. Tamoxifen is the usual endocrine (anti-estrogen) therapy for hormone receptor-positive breast cancer in pre-menopausal women, and is also a standard in post-menopausal women although aromatase inhibitors are also frequently used in that setting.[1]

Some breast cancer cells require estrogen to grow. Estrogen binds to and activates the estrogen receptor in these cells. Tamoxifen is metabolized into compounds that also bind to the estrogen receptor but do not activate it. Because of this competitive antagonism, tamoxifen acts like a key broken off in the lock that prevents any other key from being inserted, preventing estrogen from binding to its receptor. Hence breast cancer cell growth is blocked.

Tamoxifen was discovered by pharmaceutical company Imperial Chemical Industries[2] (now AstraZeneca) and is sold under the trade names Nolvadex, Istubal, and Valodex. However, the drug, even before its patent expiration, was and still is widely referred to by its generic name “tamoxifen.”

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Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:50:23 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-319890Tamoxifen is an antagonist of the estrogen receptor in breast tissue via its active metabolite, hydroxytamoxifen. In other tissues such as the endometrium, it behaves as an agonist, and thus may be characterized as a mixed agonist/antagonist. Tamoxifen is the usual endocrine (anti-estrogen) therapy for hormone receptor-positive breast cancer in pre-menopausal women, and is also a standard in post-menopausal women although aromatase inhibitors are also frequently used in that setting.[1]

Some breast cancer cells require estrogen to grow. Estrogen binds to and activates the estrogen receptor in these cells. Tamoxifen is metabolized into compounds that also bind to the estrogen receptor but do not activate it. Because of this competitive antagonism, tamoxifen acts like a key broken off in the lock that prevents any other key from being inserted, preventing estrogen from binding to its receptor. Hence breast cancer cell growth is blocked.

Tamoxifen was discovered by pharmaceutical company Imperial Chemical Industries[2] (now AstraZeneca) and is sold under the trade names Nolvadex, Istubal, and Valodex. However, the drug, even before its patent expiration, was and still is widely referred to by its generic name “tamoxifen.”

People take it after they do a cycle of steroids. It helps to keep the gains and prevent gyno

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Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:47:07 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-319888Randy is next. After Randy, Granderson.
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Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:46:05 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-319886Are the Red Sox also on the hook to Byrd for the MLB minimum? If so, they are minor beneficiaries.
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Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:43:34 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-319884Encarnacion in Toronto is next.
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Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:40:24 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-319881When does the “enhanced performance” part kick in?????
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Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:37:24 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-319880Never mind. He’s still actually under contract, so the Cubs come out ahead under this one since they picked up the majority of his salary and will save the 50 games worth of pay.
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Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:34:48 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=173408#comment-319877Wouldn’t he being serving the 50 game suspension upon signing with a new team?
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