Horror Of Horrors!!

"I do trust many youtube videos after weighing up their evidence. And again, 7 billion square km's divided by 7 billion people does fit."

Who gave you permission to suggest using my country as your own personal breadbasket???
Most of Australia is completely unsuitable for farming and even if it was worked and irrigated to be useable it would mean the wholesale slaughter of
millions of species of flora and fauna (including insects and fungus and other small organisims) many of them unique (which means countless
extinctions)
This land is NOT now and never has been 'Terra Nullius'! europeans have already made that mistake once and it resulted in hundreds of extinctions
and a massive act of genocide (several tens of thousands of aboriginal people)
So before you go making ignorant and deeply offensive statements you might want to engage the filter between brain and mouth.

I won't call you names. But I just wanted to share my experience. I used to love chicken....and really, it was the only meat I liked. I thought of
chickens as food and nothing more.....and thought they were stupid animals. However, one day a rooster just showed up at my house. I tried to chase
him away etc.....he kept coming back. He started following me everywhere....finally, I felt sorry for him and started feeding him. He began coming up
to me when I was outside and cooing like he was trying to interact with me. I began talking to him, named him, and now he is a pet, just like any
other. I have taught him to flap his wings for me and "puff up" his feathers on command, he responds to me (without food)....and knows his name. He
could be anywhere, and when I call his name he comes running....not for food, but to be petted. Now, I cannot eat chicken anymore...I just can't.He
is hilarious! He sees me and he starts strutting and cooing and seems to be doing it in response to seeing me. I don't tell anyone else what to
eat....but they are not animals without feeling....I love him just like my pet cats (who are great friends with him BTW....they SLEEP together)

I won't call you names. But I just wanted to share my experience. I used to love chicken....and really, it was the only meat I liked. I thought of
chickens as food and nothing more.....and thought they were stupid animals. However, one day a rooster just showed up at my house. I tried to chase
him away etc.....he kept coming back. He started following me everywhere....finally, I felt sorry for him and started feeding him. He began coming up
to me when I was outside and cooing like he was trying to interact with me. I began talking to him, named him, and now he is a pet, just like any
other. I have taught him to flap his wings for me and "puff up" his feathers on command, he responds to me (without food)....and knows his name. He
could be anywhere, and when I call his name he comes running....not for food, but to be petted. Now, I cannot eat chicken anymore...I just can't.He
is hilarious! He sees me and he starts strutting and cooing and seems to be doing it in response to seeing me. I don't tell anyone else what to
eat....but they are not animals without feeling....I love him just like my pet cats (who are great friends with him BTW....they SLEEP together)

About the video....I couldn't watch.

This is an important story because it shows how someone can become re-sensitized. We are far removed from our products as a culture; if it's out of
sight, it's out of mind, and the finished product serves a specific purpose. If we are to evolve to a higher level we have to start thinking like
this, not just about things we consider food, but everything.

Exactly....when you buy packaged meat in the store, you don't think an animal died and that's what it is. No, I'm not a PETA freak....just pointing
it out. You are so right about the fact that it just gives you a different perspective. When forced to interact with "Bach" the rooster, I realized
he has his own little personality, he gets happy etc....and that made me think about it. It's hard for me to eat the chicken I am cooking, when AS
I'm cooking it, he is prancing back and forth by the sliding glass door, showing off and cooing for me to come out to play with him!

My father stopped eating rabbit because he once saw a rabbit eating their newborn "children" (rabbits do that sometimes).

My grandmother had chickens and rabbits, and they all ended in the kitchen, and me, my brother, my sisters and my cousins sometimes helped, although
we could never kill the rabbits, specially with the method my grandmother used, hitting them on the back of the head with her hand, like in karate.

Originally posted by billy197300
Sorry but, I am still not a vegan. I like eggs and I like fried chicken. They arent little fuzzy people to me, they are food. I can't empathise
with something that looks yummy to me. OK you can call me names now lol

There is a pretty simple answer. We have three hens- have never bred them- but they supply enough eggs for a rather large family year round. If you
have a fenced yard and a small dog house, there ya go. They eat bugs, flies, snails, slugs, beetles, all that stuff that kills your plants. They take
care of themselves basically. And they eat dandelions and clover along with other weeds.

We buy a bag of cracked corn for about 8 bucks every two months in the winter and a bag of vitamin supplements. We haven't had to buy eggs for 2 years
now.

I hear ya....my grandmother killed a chicken in front of me when I was a child....it ran around the yard with no head and she had to catch it. I was
screaming and hysterical....she took it in and cooked it for dinner, and I got punished because I wouldn't eat "dinner".....uggggggggggggh....it
was traumatizing!

I hear ya....my grandmother killed a chicken in front of me when I was a child....it ran around the yard with no head and she had to catch it. I was
screaming and hysterical....she took it in and cooked it for dinner, and I got punished because I wouldn't eat "dinner".....uggggggggggggh....it
was traumatizing!

I'm sorry. We are delicate animals. Episodes like this make us what we aren't. I'm glad you could come back closer to the base primate. There are
many humans traumatized and making life worse for each other.

Exactly....when you buy packaged meat in the store, you don't think an animal died and that's what it is. No, I'm not a PETA freak....just pointing
it out. You are so right about the fact that it just gives you a different perspective. When forced to interact with "Bach" the rooster, I realized
he has his own little personality, he gets happy etc....and that made me think about it. It's hard for me to eat the chicken I am cooking, when AS
I'm cooking it, he is prancing back and forth by the sliding glass door, showing off and cooing for me to come out to play with him!

Unless it's ground meat like beef or turkey, then it comes from many animals and not just one. Ground beef is great it's many delicious cows ground
up into one.

Hot dogs are good too, you get pork, chicken, and beef in one convenient form.

I think I used the word 'If' and it was only to illustrate (as ArMaP already pointed out, thanks for that!) the fact that there is land a-plenty. No
need for you to be offended, it was not a suggestion that the whole human race should suddenly move to Australia. Christmas in summer just doesn't
work for me.

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