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This has become a nightmare within itself. I don't understand why Dish doesn't allow their OTA ATSC tuners to handle their own EPG and let the main EPG handle the programming they alone carry. It is a basic feature all 3rd party OTA ATSC tuners have. But here we go.

I recently moved to the Eastern Arc because I had poor LOS to 129 and low signal. Since my locals are on 110/119, I don't get any locals off Dish because I'm pointed at 72/61.5. All OTA channels read DIGITAL SERVICE. Okay fine, I put a Dish 300 up for guide data off 119. Here are the results.

024-02 ATN Digital Service Odd Issue --> Black screen with just audio only while the dish banner still on the screen, when the on-screen display disappears the audio drops as well. Hooked to the tv's ATSC tuner and scanned it works fine.

19-02 WMAH PBS from over-the-air antenna showing "Digital Service" in e.p.g. (19-01 shows correct information, but it's in standard definition, 19-02 is the high definition sub-channel that I'd prefer to see in the e.p.g.)

19-02 WMAH PBS from over-the-air antenna showing "Digital Service" in e.p.g. (19-01 shows correct information, but it's in standard definition, 19-02 is the high definition sub-channel that I'd prefer to see in the e.p.g.)

I'm in the Abilene-Sweetwater, Texas market. I'm still on Western Arc.

I hooked rabbit ears to my receivers and the reception is very good. I hooked a hard drive to the 211k and I'm about to enable it but I need EPG data to get the best use of it. The 222k and the 211k have differences.

I'm in the Abilene-Sweetwater, Texas market. I'm still on Western Arc.

I hooked rabbit ears to my receivers and the reception is very good. I hooked a hard drive to the 211k and I'm about to enable it but I need EPG data to get the best use of it. The 222k and the 211k have differences.

Charlottesville,VA area. Two hoppers, both with USB OTA dongles. Hoppers receive and can view 16, 19, 27, 29, 41 including subs, but no EPG info for ANY channel. Contacted Dish advanced tech support and am told that all EPG for OTA comes from the stations themselves and NOT from Dish and that I need to contact my local channels ! (Someone needs to clue their own tech support in on things).

My installation has a view of 61.5 and 77 sats, but not 129 sat where SD locals come in (due to tree obstructions). Was hoping for ability to combine HD locals thru USB OTA hopper with satellite channels from 61.5 for a complete HD system. Looking at a channel satellite list it seems all the OTA EPG is coming thru 129 on subchannels. Now looking like I might have to go back to cable. Are there any solutions here ? Please confirm.

Looking at a channel satellite list it seems all the OTA EPG is coming thru 129 on subchannels. Now looking like I might have to go back to cable. Are there any solutions here ?

You have answered your own question; NO 129 - NO EPG data. If you are (really) supposed to be on Western Arc, then that's what you are going to have to figure out how to get a signal accordingly. DISH only sends up the OTA EPG data for a given station, on the SAME sats where the satellite feed for that said station resides.