50 Comments to "Cathedral’s Young Transferring to Mater Dei"

@Angelus Fraud
I think you should bite your tongue sir… before you get all high and mighty like your school is to good for our boys
Where did Marcos Lopez come from?
Where did Andrew Tovar come from?
Where did Jesse Audelo come from?
Where did Matt Henderson come from?
Hmmmmm…… You clown… there’s more names of kids who didn’t take the bait from our “little area” that you tried to get. Get off your high horse.

still waiting on the name of a board member that liked Pearson. Farfan allowed this mess allowed all these transgressions and turned a blind eye. He allowed this selfish, egotistical maniac with anger issues to turn Cathedral from an outstanding institution to what it is today.
if you need any insight, check the kids social media pages… or if you know the kids ask them. If your name isn’t Calvin or Young the kids hated the Cathedral football experience.

Want to find the answers to all your questions? Just follow the people that surround a program. Assume nothing will change at Cathedral. CHS will probably hire from within. The same practices will remain just different faces. There are outside influences that have their claws around the program. KP didn’t do things that angered some because he was rogue. He probably did them because he had the blessing of his superiors, who may have turned a blind eye for years. KP brought in QBs & athletes (Hayden Rettig & Randal Carroll) for years. His young coaches infiltrated other programs and recruited kids away. KP and his poser agents didn’t care where or how they brought kids to Bishop Rd. Monrovia, Rosemead, Pasadena were just a few areas they went into.

How does a school President, principal and board of directors not know what’s going on within it’s own athletic department? Lol. It was just time for a change. Cathedral is a nice school for some. It’s not a SJB or MD athletically. It’s definitely not a Loyola. Give KP and Phantoms credit they beat the Cubs. It was probably KP’s the most significant victory in his coaching career. The Phantoms wanted that W bad. But, KP and the Phantoms beat a Cub team that was not very good. In fact, the Cubs are on the decline in football. The Cubs tried that same transfer, recruiting game and found it regrettable. They’ll be back maybe.

It’s safe to say that most people on this blog don’t like CHS. The truth is they’ve never been relevant enough in sports or athletics to be liked or disliked. People need to stay calm and just respect other people’s different points of view.

lol… I started the Cathedral bashing? No! I started publicizing Perasons shameful acts… all true BTW.
I mean He did Recruit Kam And Lopez to the same position ant promised them the same things in their Sr season and didn’t use either one, thus robbing them of any chance of playing college football. He did subsequently kick Kam out of school shortly after the season, He did punch a referee square in the jaw. He did put hands and a kid during a game on TV He did bench his two time MVP for a Freshman… Where am I wrong here? where are my lies? your the two bit joker with his head so far up P’s arse your blind o his faults reminiscent of battered wife syndrome. open your eyes. ok ok how many board members like Pearson? Ill wait for your response……..
p.s while your thinking, If Pearson had any say in the Bryuce Young Saga why once JT daniels became official the next day Bryce was checked out of cathedral. oh and BTW without paying a single cent to the school.

I think when You Coach at 1 place for 22 Year’s I think that is called Loyalty. Coach Pearson made some mistakes while at Cathedral but he did a lot of Good things for a lot of kids. It wasn’t about money for Coach pearson because Cathedral does not pay much like other top Programs. He even helped You (Downtown AKA Will) to get started in coaching. I can’t believe they hate you have for Your own Alma Mater Cathedral.

Downtown Downey, When are you goping to stop man. You are the one who started all this Cathedral Bashing and everyone jumped in. What’s your problem man I still can’t figure what Cathedral did to You. Everything is good at Cathedral and they will have a Good Team next season.

@Angelus fan
I think you are the one who doesn’t know what hes talking about… Bryce dad turned P into a puppet. he threatened to leave if he didn’t get playing time as a frosh, So P lets him split reps 50/50 any coach on that staff knew it was a mistake. He almost left before his sophomore season as well due to a lack of athletes, so P promised him more receivers. and the puppet went to work. I could go on and will if these clowns try to spin this another way. Bottom line is Bryce young and Craig Young (dad) are in it strictly for themselves, The loyalty lies with themselves and that’s it. Young’s decision to leave was only tied to J.T Daniels choice to reclassify and graduate as a junior. that it! not P or some loyalty to cathedral it was always if MD had an opening or not.
Now , Bryce Young you do realize who’s job your filling right? I mean You are signing up for the Massive comparisons between you and JT. You better deliver or suffer the wrath. Oh and BTW, Have you seen the team SJB is bringing back next year with DJ and company? uhhhh you better be as good as advertised kid.
Farfan should go to… He allowed Cathedral to turn into this mess. P struck a kid on national TV no less, punched a referee in the face. Kicked multiple kids out of school right after football season because the free tuition was no longer being granted or the tutors were no longer available. Its sad really. Rumors are already out there on whos coming in and it looks like the mercenary attitude is only gonna get worse.
to be continued………..

To Friday Knights You don’t know what You’re talking about. Coach Pearson Resigned because He wanted to spend more time with his family and take a year off. Bryce was going to stay at Cathedral if Coach Pearson was still coaching. Cathedral has Good QB’s to take Bryce Young’s place. His Father liked Cathedral and wanted to stay put. Life moves on and Cathedral does not want anybody from Arroyo including QB Camacho. Cathedral is in a Great Place in Their History now and will continue to have success. Their mission is to get Students into College.

Come on. The guy has been there for decades, had some success, and has seen a lot of great players come and go. You seriously think he’s going to quit a good job because he loses one great player (and several good ones along with him, it seems)? Whatever his reasons for leaving, I find it extremely hard to believe that losing Bryce Young was one of them. Hell, I might wonder if Pearson resigning was the the last piece of the puzzle in Young’s decision to transfer – he knew that the program was about to take a big step back right when he wants to take a big step forward.

All good programs recruit to some degree, public or private, that’s just a fact. The ones that don’t, won’t, or has no chance just don’t win many games. The word “recruiting” sounds dirty in high school sports but is not illegal, even for public schools, if you are able to convince the athlete’s family to move within the school’s district. In Young’s case, since MD is a private school, he won’t even have to move out of his current neighborhood. His family just has to move next door and that would make him immediately eligible.

@ Friday Knights: You brought up some good examples regarding the impact an exceptional athlete can have on a high school football program, whether he “stayed home” or came from somewhere else.
A small number actually have the capacity to “make or break” coaches and programs.

@ Gordon G: I appreciate your knowledge and perspective. Thanks for contributing to the discussion.
I agree with you that recruiting has been going on for decades, especially in high school football and basketball.
However, it seems to be a lot more prevalent now. The CIF Southern Section’s lax approach to enforcement and its adoption of the “30-day” transfer rule have only encouraged the recruiters.

@Annoymous: Yes, times have changed, but who knows where things will go from here?
I do have to admit that I learned something tonight: Good athletes go to Cathedral. (All of them, or only some?) I’ll have to remember that…

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This argument can go on for days with both sides having valid points.
Kids staying and playing for the “home” school for me sounds like the proper thing to do. BUT, I do not fault the kids that do leave. It’s a slippery slope for sure. Think about this way it creates “great” coaches and bad coaches lol. Hear me out,
take Dale Zoila, he had himself a horse in Tyler Nevens and he’s considered a great coach, he goes to DB minus a Tyler Nevens and he promptly goes 0-10, did he forget how to coach?
Frank Gallardo, goes 3-7 at SEM then Sal Tovar has back to back 2,000 yard seasons and now Gallardo and Mooney are tagged with being a “great” staff. Are they? Mooney’s rep speaks for itself but verdict is still out on Gallardo.
What happens if Ernesto Camacho plays for Mt View? Does Romero resign? Probably not. Does Mt View win a league title? Maybe not but the league is a lot more competitive.
Does Pearson resign his duties if Young doesn’t leave Cathedral? Hell no! So my point is kids staying or going can have a tremendous effect on the way we perceive coaches and programs for that matter. What is Charter Oak without all the out of area kids? Does big Lou keep his job without those transfers? Maybe maybe not but he wouldn’t be a HOF coach with out them. Steven Comstock lived literally blocks from Charter Oak he was a CO ball boy for crying out loud but he attended Northview to wrestle…. remember that. Now Does coach Perez get the same accolades without Comstock? No way! It’s the butterfly effect and it builds and kills programs. Some Teams are hiring a recruiting coach, another coach to produce eye popping film cut ups for social media purposes it’s not about X’s and O’s it’s about getting kids to stay in your program or to make kids ditch the home school and come to your school. High school football is a business under the guise of just sports. Like it or not it’s the way it is. Props to the kids that do stay and play for one school, I would imagine it’s getting harder and harder to hear that with so many guys pulling at the “good ones” and you Dale Zoila’s and Frank Gallardos just make sure you appreciate those kids that only come around every so often. You might owe your job to them. Food for thought.

ALL SCHOOLS recruit and it’s not just isolated to football. Football is the crown jewel of most high schools. It also is a big source of generating money for a school’s ASB programs and other sports.

There are some high schools that recruit for basketball, swimming, soccer, water polo, baseball, wrestling and tennis. Do some basic fact finding and one will find that ALL SCHOOLS recruit for just about EVERY sport. Head football coaches at public schools complain because they dont know how to recruit or they are not paid well enough to give up the time to do so.

Some public schools do have booster clubs or other ways to increase stipends for a head coach and assistants. This is not a big secret. There some well to do public schools that have other special ways to fund their sports programs and coaches by way of individual giving and other organizations. Both are probably compliant to CIF rules but some less well to do public schools may not have access to those same opportunities. Now that is not fair. There are some great public school districts that grant interdisctrict transfers, crafty. Another opportunity not granted to all kids.

It is boring and annoying to keep hearing the public school coaches complain about the private schools. Public school coaches have resources to use. Recruiting is not something new under the sun. It has been there for decades. Most of the complaints come from jealous coaches with no vision, or can’t accept the reality of today’s high school football world. Now there are some great public school football coaches who know how to win the battle of recruiting. They put in time and care. Those programs can be hard to find but they are out there. Schools like Upland, San Dimas, Glendora, Los Altos, South El Monte seem to do a good job. These schools have some really good coaches too.

Does today’s era of recruiting bother most? Probably. It’s all about choice. Parents have a right to choose where they enroll their child. People may not agree with another’s choice but it is their legal right to make the choice that they feel is right for them. Parents do research and coaches recruiting is a reality. Going to big name or not so big name school does not guarantee success in sports.

To Alhambra Statman. If You’re a Good Athlete you go to Cathedral. If You’re a good badmitten player you go to Keppel. Alhambra had some Great Players come out of there in their History. Times have changed and you have to face it.

“All schools recruit kids from out of their own area.” That’s an overly broad statement, but it isn’t surprising, seeing that it comes from someone who has a private-school perspective.

Private-school athletic programs are free to recruit basically everywhere since they’re not constrained by attendance boundaries, as are public schools.
Private high schools should be placed in completely separate leagues and playoff divisions, and they can lobby 8th-grade athletes (and their parents) all they want.
But, they should be strictly prohibited from contacting—and tampering with—student-athletes who are attending public high schools.

High school sports need to be regulated more, not less.
The CIF Southern Section has taken a lax approach to rules, and the enforcement thereof, in recent years. So, rather predictably, what is occurring now borders on chaos.

I’d like to ask those who follow the football programs at places like Mark Keppel, Gabrielino, Bassett, and Glen Wilson High whether they agree with “Phantom Alum’s” claim that “all schools” recruit players from elsewhere.
In my opinion, there would be fewer teams with 1-9 or 0-10 records if that were the case.

I agree with cif. All schools recruit kids from out of their own area. I am a Cathedral Alum and hate to see Bryce go but we will be OK. Cathedral has recruited very well and will continue to recruit well. Time for all the BS to stop and why don’t you talk about the Mater Dei’s, Bosco’s, Centennial’s, etc. that are looking for talent everywhere. Like Rodney King said “Can’t We All Just Get Along”!! Happy New Year 2018 to all and “GO PHANTOMS”!!!!

@ Anonymous: That’s a sensible take on Bryce Young. I don’t think anyone can accuse Mater Dei of “scheduling down.”

@ Reality: My comment about exploitation of high school student-athletes concerns all too many of the roughly 95 per cent who never reach the college football/NFL “promised land.”
Bryce Young, Steven Comstock, and other players of their caliber are the highly-gifted exceptions.
In the meantime, some of their high school counterparts don’t earn enough credits to graduate, and a number of those who do graduate lack the academic skills to successfully compete in college or in the job market.
My sense is that none of this matters to the recruiters and 7-on-7 gurus who have no more use for these young men.

@ My Two Cents: My hectic schedule hasn’t allowed me to attend Alhambra High basketball games for years. So, I’m not the timekeeper at the AHS gymnasium, and I don’t even know who that person is.
If you have any “quality-control” issues regarding the operation of the scoreboard clock, you’re welcome to share those concerns with our athletic director, Jerry DeSantis.
I hope you have a happy new year.

The point of views made by some on this blog are simply laughable. Hey, if you’re an NFL or suuuuper star D1 college QB it’s going to happen no matter where you attend high school. I support any kid and his family for improving their finiancial situation and increasing their scholarship offers. This is America and for lack of better words “greed is good” sometimes.

There are no guarantees of riches and glory by attending another high school. Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady didn’t transfer to powerhouse high schools and both of them will be in the NFL HOF. Leinart and Barkley were suppose to be can’t miss prospects. But, I guess QB success is relative. Good luck to those parents who enter the QB industry. It could be a lovely journey or not

I never realized that a college scholarship and/or an NFL contract was a form of “exploitation.” Perhaps Bryce should consult with Alhambra’s statistician to make sure he steers clear of those nasty D-1 schools and NFL scouts.

Everyone talking about How transferring could effect Bryce’s offers this and that it doesn’t matter for crying out loud the kid already has about every offer in the nation Alabama, USC, Oklahoma, etc. it looks to me like he’s looking at it as an opportunity to play in the Trinity League and take on the best competition in the country. He’s trying to get ready for college by playing the Bosco’s and Centennial’s. A kid like Bryce doesn’t get better playing against Arcadia and Lynwood lol

@ Annoymous: We’re not looking for outside help. Everything’s fine with us as long as the kids who live in Alhambra want to attend AHS (or San Gabriel, or Mark Keppel, depending on what part of town they live in).
Public school attendance boundaries should still count for something. Our schools provide reasonably good academic environments, and they’re relatively safe.

Cathedral will be fine. It’s hard to lose a QB Like Bryce who comes around very seldom. Cathedral was not stealing players from other school’s. The Coaches on staff knew the kids from other schools. They have all played Pop-Warner together. Cathedral is just trying to get kids to play for them. They are not doing half the things that other programs are doing. Good Luck to The Phantoms .

Bryce Young can pretty much do whatever he wants, as long as he has parental consent. I just hope he doesn’t find himself treated like a commodity wherever he goes.
Either way, Bryce will get to find out whether he’s an NCAA Division I-caliber quarterback.
Also, I’m one of the very last people who would ever feel sorry for Cathedral High. I have no sympathy for its football program. As “Sportsdad” said, turnabout is fair play, and that’s particularly true when it comes to Cathedral.

@Reality and Anonymous: Commercialism and money took over NCAA Division I football and basketball a long time ago, and you believe that social and economic model should extend all the way down to our high schools?
I think we need to preserve high school sports—or what’s left of them—as a bastion of amateur competition. As a society, we should be trying to contain the exploitation of our youth, instead of promoting it.

Firstly Young is a Pasadena kid who wasn’t playing at his area School to begin with. I dont think anyone should feel sorry for Cathedral who has raided kids from public schools for years. Turn about is fair play.

I would kindly ask Ron Vrooman to put himself in Bryce Young’s shoes for a moment, and to ask which school offers him the best route to the big-time: Cathedral or Mater Dei? If Ron were willing to suspend his decades-old notions of how football might be, could be, and ought to be, he would see clearly why it IS a certain way these days. The reasons are called DOLLARS AND CENTS. It’s fine to wax nostalgic over the conditions present in one’s childhood, but for God’s sake, we do need to keep up with the times.

In regards to transferring, I say let the kids play wherever they want. Who are we to tell a kid he should have to stay at his area school for all four years? There are many circumstances out there and we don’t know what they could be. Maybe they just want to play with their friends, maybe they want a better opportunity, or maybe they just need to get out of the area and need a fresh start. What if you go to a school for a coach then that coach retires or leaves? It would be ridiculous to tell a kid he has to stay there and finish. I like the open transfer rules. Let kids go wherever they want and play. Everyone complaining about it “ruining” high school football just has to accept the fact that HSFB is evolving and its never going to be like how it was back in the day anymore. This is the new High School football so we should all just embrace it and get used to it.

Transfers, recruiting, and crass commercialization (sponsorships, state bowl games, etc.) have been ruining high school football.

Private schools, which have no attendance boundaries and can theoretically recruit across the world, should be placed in their own separate leagues and playoff divisions. And, those leagues and divisions should be organized primarily on the basis of enrollment size and talent level.
In addition, even transfers between private schools should be severely limited. A student-athlete’s commitment to a school should be a meaningful one, but instead, we have too many “mercenaries” these days.

When it comes to public high schools, the “association rule” should be reinstated, and the “30-day” transfer rule needs to be abolished.
High school football never should’ve been permitted to become a year-round activity; this is a development that inherently favors the schools which have greater resources to begin with. I can only speculate on how it has affected players academically; that’s an area that should be studied.
Football-related activities should be limited to no more than six or seven months per year. (Seven months for the few teams that make it all the way to a division championship game.) That’s what the old “association rule” was about.
The state football playoffs and bowl games should be eliminated; high-school teams should not be playing 15 or 16 games in a season.
The “30-day” transfer rule has been a joke; it has only encouraged the recruiters and made it easier for student-athletes to transfer from one school to another. That rule should be repealed immediately, and we need to have an absolute, well-enforced ban on recruiting.
Players attending public high schools should stay at their respective schools for four years, unless their families move to another area, or the schools they’re at decide to drop football. There should be few, if any, exceptions.

Kudos to Comstock and every local kid who is not NFL material for staying put and wearing the neighborhood colors. It needs to be mentioned, however, that for QBs of Young’s caliber, these kind of moves are necessary to maximize the NFL money he will score a few years hence. The kid is competing with a slew of top slingers throughout the nation, and in that derby, he needs to perform on the largest stages possible.

Steven Comstock should be commended for spending all four of his high school years at Northview.
Staying the course at one school is an ideal that all prep athletes should strive for. Loyalty to one’s school, teammates, and friends is priceless.