I would say spider hunting wasps laying larvae in a paralyzed spider to slowly eat their insides out, while preserving vital organs as long as possible to keep the food fresh pretty much trumps anything we have managed. I would go on to say that the wasp wouldn't lose sleep over it (if wasps do indeed sleep, which I am not too sure about too be honest, anyone know?)

I would argue that this is not really cruel. Gruesome, yes. But the wasp is not doing it out of spite. It is doing it because it is necessary for its life cycle.

A better example of an animal actually being cruel would be simply a cat playing with a mouse, instead of killing it outright. But really, humans have a capacity for cruelty far beyond any other animal, as we genuinely revel in the misery of others.

As far as vegetarianism goes, i do not buy it. Eating meat is natural, and i love how it tastes (except chicken and turkey, which tastes of bugger all). I am an unashamed carnivore. I do not really have a problem the actual slaughthouse bit, though i am totally against factory farming, and attempt to buy free range whenever i can. As far as I'm concerned, if an animal has led a good life, the exact method of its demise does not particularly bother me.

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Subject: Re: Vegetarianism Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:41 am

I am not saying animals are cruel as such, just efficient. They will do whatever it takes and in most cases no more, to get fed. Now to extrapolate that attitude onwards to people, battery farms are the conclusion.

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Subject: Re: Vegetarianism Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:56 am

I personally don't have issues with people that go vegetarian because they don't like the taste of meat. Thats fine by me, its the people that do it JUST BECAUSE of animal cruelty that piss me off. Particularly cause they are self-righteous douchebags.

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Subject: Re: Vegetarianism Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:22 am

I am myself vegetarian (basically don't eat meat) because I don't really like taste of meat. Maybe I am strange or something but I just do not like it. I mean - if there is situation like I don't have choice and have to eat meat, that is ok, I can eat this but I strongly prefer non-meat meals.

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Subject: Re: Vegetarianism Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:15 pm

I could not live as a vegetarian I wold starve to death.

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Subject: Re: Vegetarianism Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:06 pm

I don't like the taste of meat, and I'm also strongly against battery farms. I don't actually do much exercise, and I get what I need from tofu, vegetables, fruit, fungus, dairy products, etc. I'm also against corporate farming. Battery farms, combined with corporate and industrial farming are causing massive environmental damage.

I don't like the taste of meat, and I'm also strongly against battery farms. I don't actually do much exercise, and I get what I need from tofu, vegetables, fruit, fungus, dairy products, etc. I'm also against corporate farming. Battery farms, combined with corporate and industrial farming are causing massive environmental damage.