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Aces & Eights were good as a dominant stable, just after Bully Ray revealed he was the President, but then TNA started removing everyone that was interesting from the group. DOC, Devon, D'Lo, even Mr Anderson, who I like more than most.

Now that it's down to like, 3 people, and one of those 3 is Bischoff, it's terrible.

I would still say Ace and Eights are worse then most of those above. At least most of those you mentioned had established big name players. A&E had Devon and Bubba which are legit wrestling stars, the rest of A&E were nothing but scrubs, has beens, and never was's.

Deadstroke wrote:I would still say Ace and Eights are worse then most of those above. At least most of those you mentioned had established big name players. A&E had Devon and Bubba which are legit wrestling stars, the rest of A&E were nothing but scrubs, has beens, and never was's.

Yeah, just like the NWO it was cloned from. Big names surrounded by Hugh Morrises.

misac wrote:I don't think you can compare Aces and Eights with these groups, they were the main guys for months. That and the fact that they have total lameos is why they're worse.

But you can have total lameos and still be presented as a strong faction. Proportionately speaking, the nWo probably had a similar big-star to non-star ratio, and they were badass before they petered out also. I'm not saying A&E is great or anything, but to say they're the worst? When the Oddities or Los Boriquas or pre-revamped Nation of Domination with Savio, Crush, and PG13 are right there?

No, far from it. A&E was booked pretty well for awhile, a miracle considering TNA and all, and like anything in TNA they just went to shit.

When you're as good as Chael, you can only call out people worse than you.

As I said, Aces & Eights were great up until Slammiversary, as after that they started losing members at a rapid clip.

I actually think the story of Bully's hubris and egotism destroying his own stable is a good one, but it hasn't been handled well. They probably should have just actually broken them up this week, rather than fake us out.

syxxpakk wrote:But you can have total lameos and still be presented as a strong faction. Proportionately speaking, the nWo probably had a similar big-star to non-star ratio, and they were badass before they petered out also. I'm not saying A&E is great or anything, but to say they're the worst? When the Oddities or Los Boriquas or pre-revamped Nation of Domination with Savio, Crush, and PG13 are right there?

No, far from it. A&E was booked pretty well for awhile, a miracle considering TNA and all, and like anything in TNA they just went to shit.

For those of you who may care about them, the Young Bucks (Generation Me when they were in TNA) became the new IWGP Jr Heavyweight Tag-Team Champions today in New Japan Pro Wrestling. They beat Taka Michinoku and Taichi for the titles.