Annie Abrahams has a doctorate in biology from the university of Utrecht and a grade from the Academy of fine arts of Arnhem. In her work, using video, performance as well as the internet, she questions the possibilities and the limits of communication in general and more specifically investigates its modes under networked conditions. She is an internationally regarded pioneer of networked performance art.She has performed and shown work extensively in France, including at the Pompidou Centre, Paris, and in many international galleries including among others Espai d’Art Contemporani de Castelló, Spain; the Museum of Contemporary Art, Tokyo; the Armenian Center for Contemporary Experimental Art, Yerevan; HTTP gallery in London and NIMk in Amsterdam; festivals such as the Moscow Film Festival; the International Film Festival of Rotterdam and the Stuttgarter Filmwinter, and on online platforms such as Rhizome.org and Turbulence.She teached at the university of Montpellier in the arts department. (2002-2005) From november 2006 to january 2009 she curated the project “InstantS” for panoplie.org. She also curated and organized the “Breaking Solitude” and Double Bind webperformances on panoplie.org in 2007, 2008 and 2009.Besides doing her art work she lectures and teaches workshops.

No one can suspect you of abandoning whateverYou are present on rhizomeAlmost every day I find very interesting links and texts you send tothe NetBehaviour list (I appreciate that very much)and now I learn you are blogging too

bestAnnie

On 11/29/06, marc <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org> wrote:> Hi Jason,>> I certainly do not want Annie to feel that I personally dislike her> opinion, I respect it just as I know that she would respect my own> opinion (gulp), even if she does not agree with my own - After all, we> are not robots, yet.>> And what makes life interesting, is discovering other people's> perspectives and their positions, in respect of what they are inclined> to value. For we are a multi-cultural world, even if mono-cultural> stances are ruling our poitical frameworks and world politics at present.>> marc>> > I like the fact that Annie Abrahams was taking a stand - making a> > deliberate choice to invest the time she has for written communication> > in an informal collective list (like here) rather than be turned into> > an(other) amateur columnist in the blogsphere. Her reasoning made me> > even more happy. HG's intentions are pure to be sure - but blogs> > cause a brain drain on communities such as Rhizome. I read blogs too -> > but I prefer the Rhizome list. I rarely wander over to the mtaa site> > - but I read posts here many times a day.> >> > M. River, I wish you felt the same way so I would see more of you.> >> > Best,> > Jason Van Anden> > www.smileproject.com <http://www.smileproject.com>> >> >> > On 11/29/06, *M. River* <mriver102@yahoo.com> > <mailto:mriver102@yahoo.com>> wrote:> >> > annie abrahams wrote:> >> > > I am against blogs> > >> > > I am for lists> > >> > > I won't participate, no blog for me.> > > unless a participative blog as the noblog of jim punk (cannot find a> > > link, has it disappeared?> > >> > > I hope other women also will leave the blogs to men and will try to> > > invest lists again> >> > "Misunderstanding is fundamental of human beings. We cannot read> > anothers brain. We are like submarines progressing by the> > information of our own internal monitors but unable to see what is> > really going on. In every tentative to understand another human> > being, we have to let in unknown information, that has the> > potential to destabilize us. That's dangerous, and so most human> > beings prefer a misunderstanding attitude over an understanding> > one." Annie Abrahams 1997 2005> >> > I like blogs> > I like lists> > I like email> > I like vlogs> > I like phologs> > I kind of like myspace...kind of...> > I like code> > I like web 2.0> > I like flickr...kind of> > I like del.icio.us <http://del.icio.us>> > I like the net> > I like rhizome> > I like the thing> > I like art> >> > and so on...> >> >> >> > +> > -> post: list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>> > -> questions: info@rhizome.org <mailto:info@rhizome.org>> > -> subscribe/unsubscribe:> > http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz> > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support <http://rhizome.org/support>> > +> > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the> > Membership Agreement available online at> > http://rhizome.org/info/29.php> >> >> >> >> > --> > Jason Van Anden> > http://www.smileproject.com>>>> --> Furtherfield - http://www.furtherfield.org> HTTP - http://www.http.uk.net> Node.London - http://www.nodel.org>> +> -> post: list@rhizome.org> -> questions: info@rhizome.org> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support> +> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php>

Yes I knew post.thing.net interface. Someone pointed it out to me afew weeks ago. I do have nothing against it "personally".

I cite Eric Dymond "It truncates it. It also looses something, thestream of thought, the interaction is missing, something active andalive just isn't there.Lists belong to a continuum, blogs are private and chunky, and read byfar fewer people."

Yes, I do prefer what you call "closed discussion" read by theinitiated subscribed to a listserv above no discussion at all that Ifind in most blogs. I do prefer to be confronted to all kinds ofmessages, ideas, different opinions of a list community above findingmore of the same on the rss of a blog. (of course there areexceptions)a blog is monolithic a list is multiplea blog is materiel, a list is a fluida blog is glue and crystals, a list soap and bubbles

Blogs can serve specific working situations, as making collectionstogether. But mostly they serve only to reinforce the identity of theblogger.It might also be that as T.Whid stated some time ago, that they serveas a secure haven where one can have opinions without having todiscuss them.blogs are save, lists are dangerous (in potential)

in potentialThat's why we should stay on the lists side and try to reinforce existing ones.

bestAnnie

On 11/27/06, G.H. Hovagimyan <ghh@thing.net> wrote:> gh responds:> Actually there are several forms of threaded discourse intrinsic to the cms we're using. You can start your own forum or comment on an article or post your own article. The only difference is that it's client pull. What are your objections to these type of structures? Do you prefer a closed discussion that only the initiated may read if they are subscribed to a listserv? In fact, the cms we use is more accessible to the networked world via google searches. The threaded discussions are actually a lot clearer and easier to follow that the traditional email listserv structure. I wonder what you objections might be then. Have you actually taken the time to use the new post.thing.net interface before dismissing it offhand?>> annie abrahams wrote:>> > I am against blogs> >> > I am for lists> >> > I won't participate, no blog for me.> > unless a participative blog as the noblog of jim punk (cannot find a> > link, has it disappeared?> >> > I hope other women also will leave the blogs to men and will try to> > invest lists again> >> >> > best Annie Abrahams> >> > On 11/27/06, G.H. Hovagimyan <ghh@thing.net> wrote:> > > Hi All,> > >> > > I've taken over the editorship of post.thing.net.> > http://post.thing.net I've been inviting people to come and blog.> > There are many new bloggers joining from around the country and around> > the world. Some recent bloggers include:> > >> > > James Allan - England - http://post.thing.net/blog/171> > > Isabel Arvers - Switzerland - http://post.thing.net/blog/200> > >> > > Casper Straeke is reporting on the 4th international Media Art> > Biennale Seoul 2006. frontpage- http://post.thing.net> > >> > > Patrick Lichty has continued his thoughts on Craft and New Media> > first presented informally on rhizome. frontpage-> > http://post.thing.net> > >> > > The juxtapositon of these two essays is very exciting!> > >> > > I would like to extend a special invitation to women bloggers who> > would like to become part of this exciting discourse.> > > Hey! don't let the boy's club just rule things!! Contact me and I'll> > set you up with a blog!!> > > +> > > -> post: list@rhizome.org> > > -> questions: info@rhizome.org> > > -> subscribe/unsubscribe:> > http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz> > > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support> > > +> > > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the> > > Membership Agreement available online at> > http://rhizome.org/info/29.php> > >> >> >> > --> >> > "FearingS" Participate in creating a collective voice about "fear".> > Help revealing it's actual tendencies. http://bram.org/peur/fear/> > "Peurs" Participez � la cr�ation d'une voix collective autour de la> > "peur". Aidez � en r�v�ler les tendances actuelles.> > http://bram.org/peur/fear/indexfr.htm> >> +> -> post: list@rhizome.org> -> questions: info@rhizome.org> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support> +> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php>