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With the conclusion of this LP, the circle is now complete. When I left Master Gaider, I was but the learner. Now, I am the Master.

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Only master of CYOA Treave! : D

We'll leave that for a possible sequel.

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There is possibility of having Senya back? Great info for me.

Guess all doing this so. My favourite parts are Beginning of conflict part (Anhur was great), Terra reborn to end (more giant mecha and Senya politics), Dio chapters (that backfire on his decisions was so funny, from my perspective only 7, 22, 23 didn't backfire), first Ean kingdom (nice it was i say) and Changing world chapters (improving Empire, scene son of breach!)

Pro-tip: anyone Dio calls a friend to his face is likely not a friend.

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From my point of view you said prince wasn't his friend. Did Dio got anyone he considered friend during his life?

Write epic story and you will get lots of stupid questions:

Was there character who was planed to have big impact/recurring through story but died because of us/ was killed early by us?
Did Senya make some memorial statue, smt like Anhur-Shu and Camma cyclones with words like "to Scarlet lighting and other heroes of IAE wars, you are missed."?
What was the most interesting/important thing we missed due to our choices?
What happened to Madman?
What happened to Shulgi cultist?
You said that you used other works for ideas what were they?

And child like:
How much Gield fits in critical mass?
What was in your opinion our most cunning or/and unexpected choice? (other than sphere diplomacy)
Did pet sphere survived Armageddon? Were there something similar to it skipped?

From my point of view you said prince wasn't his friend. Did Dio got anyone he considered friend during his life?

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Acquaintances and pawns, yes. True friends, no.

Was there character who was planed to have big impact/recurring through story but died because of us/ was killed early by us?
Did Senya make some memorial statue, smt like Anhur-Shu and Camma cyclones with words like "to Scarlet lighting and other heroes of IAE wars, you are missed."?
What was the most interesting/important thing we missed due to our choices?
What happened to Madman?
What happened to Shulgi cultist?

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Anna, there was meant to be an all out hacking battle with her. Senya Chapter Three was supposed to lead to a proper Chapter Four if concluded properly (as in completing the Cyber Jack plotline) and a rematch with Shulgi in the middle of the city, but it didn't pan out. Also Edem and Naram, if not for that rift jump.

Well, there are memorials, but he didn't make it.

I'd say going on the cult route at the end of Senya chapter one. It was an interesting grimdark path, but I'm not sure you guys could have stomached it. After all, characters like Diogenes and Julius Gallardo were drawing a lot of bile already.

Died.

Gradually faded away as religion took on less importance.

And child like:
How much Gield fits in critical mass?
What was in your opinion our most cunning or/and unexpected choice? (other than sphere diplomacy)
Did pet sphere survived Armageddon? Were there something similar to it skipped?

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Uh, not sure about this one.

Cunning... plenty of choices in good contention back in the early days. Unexpected, well, I wouldn't say that anything was that unexpected given that this is the Codex.

Unfortunately I did not find an occasion to work in the pet sphere. I had planned to do it by further exploration of the 'white Earth' in Senya chapter three.

Who were you favourite characters?

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I can't say that I have a single favourite character, since I need to write all of them. But I probably prefer writing characters like Diogenes and Shulgi the Dick, and I think Ean's character is more interesting when he has Sekh or Edem to play off. Senya's character arc wasn't as clear-cut as I wanted it to be, due to the choices made, but all in all I'm satisfied with how he turned out.

Was there any other major force other than League/Empire/Terra and what happened to them?
Was there any way to get Ean into world Ares and Mard/Zeus ended up before formation of Empire?
What Senya think abut Shulgi?
Shulgi was in wolf form he was borrowing power from some women, what happened to that person and who she was?
Hmm with Sek info will Inanna flowers be back on Earth?
Was it possible to get addicted to Ianna flower extract? How would that changed Senya?
Looking at Qin was there any path we would win with power of Rock J-pop? Would there be a band, if so who was in it?
Would we chose to go for joke path in Senya first chapter what you planed to do after assassination attempt?

seeing her turn into goo stops Senya long enough

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Why Senya stopped? Did cult Senya had some doubts or did Senya regained partly control then?
Was Dio whole time the designated main bad guy tm or did he stolen screen time of other villain?
I am not sure but i asked about remnants of Senya Cult who make into Jar what happened to them? Or did that goo part was about them?
What happened to personal power armour of Senya?
How is Senya family?
If we would chose to bunker up after prosecution after making Ianes president what kind of tech would we get?
What would were ultimate powers given by nanotechnology?
Would we chose Creation power at beginning Senya would still be avatar of IAE or would he swap role with Rei? How would it change scene when smart Senya try to save Rei? Would he be able to be accepted as cult chosen?

1. During the n-th iteration of the Great Game, Emperor Gilgamesh turns against the Masters, consumes all his subjects becoming the Great Devourer, and survives the universal reboot, making it into the next - now known to be final - iteration of the Great Game.
2. The Great Devourer fragments into shards, some of which land on life-bearing planets and turn into the first Gieloth. Were there multiple such planets?
3. Masters discover the Gieloth on at least one planet, become curious, make some experiments, then decide "the Gieloth are weeds" and begin extermination, which results in the Gieloth-Master War.
4. The Gieloth assume their tree-form and spread from the original planet the Masters met them at. Do they travel to multiple new worlds, or a single one?. How exactly do they travel? Slower than light spores? It'd take AGES.
5. The Gieloth arrive on Ean's Earth (when, exactly? as in: how many years before Ean's birth?), which turns into a massive battleground against the Masters. Vajra-wielding Masters arrive, but are banished and cut-off from reappearing, while a Varja is left behind on Ean's Earth. Presumably decimated Gieloth are laying low.
6. Since they're cut-off, the Masters seed their test/control/whtvr worlds (what were all the classifications, and what criteria were they based on?) with Immortals to act as their agents (how did original Great Games proceed, with full Master access and no Gieloth meddling?)
7. Ean is imprinted with an exactly identical batch of voices as Gilgamesh was. Also, somehow Ean is a variation of Gilgamesh, even though the Masters were certain to never see him again?
8. Gieloth start recouping their losses and multiplying again.
9. Parts of the CYOA happen.
10. Marduk finds the Devouring Artifact, namely another shard of Gilgamesh (why hasn't this shard been discovered earlier and used against the Masters - or was it?) Why hasn't this shard turn into Gieloth? Did Marduk hijack Ean's legacy before finding the Shard, out of his own volition, or did he just started to channel more of Gilgamesh under its influence?

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I've played Starcraft for its story. Twice seven times. I am *the* Storyfag.

The best part of this CYOA were Ean's saga, the parts where we got to choose powers and build our kingdom. Especially one choice stuck in mind where we got to choose between building roads or signaling towers and army or spies. Another memorable moment were right in the beginning, at the top of a building in Akkad, when Shulgi approached Sargon and realized Ean was there with him. Kind of shame Shulgi tried to take power that way, it would have been awesome to ally with Shulgi at that point and slowly build a kingdom and conquer whole Terra.

Was there any other major force other than League/Empire/Terra and what happened to them?
Was there any way to get Ean into world Ares and Mard/Zeus ended up before formation of Empire?
What Senya think abut Shulgi?
Shulgi was in wolf form he was borrowing power from some women, what happened to that person and who she was?
Hmm with Sek info will Inanna flowers be back on Earth?
Was it possible to get addicted to Ianna flower extract? How would that changed Senya?
Looking at Qin was there any path we would win with power of Rock J-pop? Would there be a band, if so who was in it?
Would we chose to go for joke path in Senya first chapter what you planed to do after assassination attempt?

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I didn't bother building that much world.

Possible, had you chosen to flee through another portal in the rift.

Massive dick. But appreciates the training, somewhat.

Actually that'd be the Master Stella.

No.

Yes. Badly.

I don't think the LP could have survived such a path.

Feted as heroes but forced to do publicity work while secretly investigating the cult's actions.

Why Senya stopped? Did cult Senya had some doubts or did Senya regained partly control then?
Was Dio whole time the designated main bad guy tm or did he stolen screen time of other villain?
I am not sure but i asked about remnants of Senya Cult who make into Jar what happened to them? Or did that goo part was about them?
What happened to personal power armour of Senya?
How is Senya family?
If we would chose to bunker up after prosecution after making Ianes president what kind of tech would we get?
What would were ultimate powers given by nanotechnology?
Would we chose Creation power at beginning Senya would still be avatar of IAE or would he swap role with Rei? How would it change scene when smart Senya try to save Rei? Would he be able to be accepted as cult chosen?

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Because true love. Or something.

He was always the major candidate, though I wasn't sure how active he would be. An early draft had the Masters all replaced with male and female Dio clones. Actual clones. They'd manipulate each other and then you find the original, aged Dio behind it all.

If they joined before the goo event, they were either gooed or killed in bombardment.

Kept safely somewhere.

Doing fine, having major roles in government.

Rocket punches. Eye lasers. Combining transforming robots.

Full control over dissembling nanites that travel at the speed of light. Turn everything into goo.

The role wouldn't swap, but the cult's teachings would be retconned into a death cult, and everything else would proceed more or less as it has. Ultimately the result should be rather similar, not exactly the same, though in practice it may have varied wildly depending on the choices taken in reaction to that particular iteration of the cult. A slight variation on Master Gaider's teachings.

Only one planet, and only one occurrence of shard becoming Gieloth progenitors ever happened. The rest of the shards didn't qualify. The explanation is in that update. As for why Marduk's shard wasn't discovered earlier, that's how it is.

Spores travel at an appreciable fraction of c, new set of immortals sent out after the war started were imprinted with instructions to hunt and destroy, technically Ean uses the same batch version as the Devourer did, since the transfer was never completed. The Masters had copies.

A control world is generally wherever history is molded to follow the historical Earth, up until the point where it diverges. The Masters can make as many Earths as they want, and previous games had seen scenarios where the entire galaxy was nothing but Earths. The people of that time took it rather badly.

He was always the major candidate, though I wasn't sure how active he would be. An early draft had the Masters all replaced with male and female Dio clones. Actual clones. They'd manipulate each other and then you find the original, aged Dio behind it all.The role wouldn't swap, but the cult's teachings would be retconned into a death cult, and everything else would proceed more or less as it has. Ultimately the result should be rather similar, not exactly the same, though in practice it may have varied wildly depending on the choices taken in reaction to that particular iteration of the cult. A slight variation on Master Gaider's teachings.

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Come on throw me a bone, at least evil scientist Senya should have plan involving getting use of AI singer idols.

Think about Codex paranoia against one Shulgi, with 13 Dios we would see him under every rock and probably to unable to open refrigerator or toilet afraid of cunning ambush.

Creation Senya: you are to impulsive and short sighed to be messiah and we prefer necrophilia over orgies. Sound like C&C of game company.

How many voices are there in general and how many of them each immortal getting?
What happened to Octopus Mafia? The godfather in SPACE?
I meant cultist from 5.2 5.3 Kaito and rest.
Did any technology based on IAE like pocket dimensions made into original Earth?

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A control world is generally wherever history is molded to follow the historical Earth, up until the point where it diverges. The Masters can make as many Earths as they want, and previous games had seen scenarios where the entire galaxy was nothing but Earths. The people of that time took it rather badly.

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Something like our Earth is Earthier than yours alien scum? There goes nukes.

Treave another Question how would have our Mech looked like if we chose Drones WAY back when?

Or how would our Sis have evolved if she had the Delete Powahs?

Edit: and I just found out how to brofist things. Treave you got ALOT of fists that need Bro'ing dude. 283 Updates over 14 Months? Take a break Treave stop putting out .666 Story posts every 14 months.

EDIT: Am I the only one who thinks it is a pity we didn't see more Ean/Senya interaction? They are such different characters that it could've been very interesting, they're like day and night. I always saw them as Superman/Batman, but we never had the chance to have them become True Bros 4 Life. Also, we played and shaped both.

Hmmm, I've been wondering if a Epic mod on a Paradox game would be possible.
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The "Changing World" chapter would probably the best to base it on. I'm thinking the game would problably be Crusader Kings 2. Would be the best way to model how the Shinar Empire worked and the character-based nature of the whole game.

Immortals and Gieloth would get special stats to be properly simulated: Stats beyond the normal human, immortality, different fertility There's even a inbuilt Immortal stat already, just need to add stuff like Voices (Active/Innactive). They would also get cool battle bonuses to simulate the fact having a super-duper immortal/gieloth in your army kicks ass.

I'm thinking the game's timeframe would go from 2 A.C to, say, 400 or 500 A.C. Game starts with the Shinari Empire being founded, the Gieloth showing up in China, Skane unifying and the Terasphagos flooding Greece from time to time with killer doomstacks.

Main players are the Shinar Empire (Under Ean, divided into component kingdoms of Egypt and Babylon, early-game decision can allow you to make Greece a kingdom too), Skane (under Shulgi), Hittites, Terasphagos (who would own part of Greece and spawn IMMENSE retinues and their miasma-ridden land has mega-atrittion) Gutians, Xia and Shang in China, all of them sub-divided, CK2-style.

Problem is the map, because it would be interesting to be able to acess China and India so the player can act against the Concordat or ally with them. I heard there's a CK mod with the rest of Asia, but their mod forum is only for registered users.

Also, it would necessary to fill up the rest of the gamemap, like Western and Central Europe, East, West and Northern Africa and the Indian Subcontinent.

I'll refrain from giving a conclusive answer to that question. You may make of their relationship what you will.

But I'll say that I personally think that if there is love, it would be of the purer sort because of the time they spent as ascended beings. More agape than eros.

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Makes sense, Sekh always admired Ean's sense of honour. He stood by her when shit was going to pieces. When you can live forever and shapeshift, you probably stop giving a shit about appearance. Also, spending thousands of years in mental communion without any space for deceit must've been some wonderful trust-builder.

He was always the major candidate, though I wasn't sure how active he would be. An early draft had the Masters all replaced with male and female Dio clones. Actual clones. They'd manipulate each other and then you find the original, aged Dio behind it all.

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Think about Codex paranoia against one Shulgi, with 13 Dios we would see him under every rock and probably to unable to open refrigerator or toilet afraid of cunning ambush.

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Who were the other possible antagonists? The other Ean-sucessors (Madman, Ban, Aodh)? Ean himself (now THAT would've been hilarious!)? Shulgi?

That's even more paranoia-fuel than that multiple Shulgis idea!

Diary of mad Senya:
Can't sleep, Dios are after me! Can't sleep, Dios are after me and THEY'RE EVERYWHERE AND MORE CUNNING THAN ME AND RUTHLESS AS FUCK
They know all my weaknesses
I know none of theirs
help me
They're everywhere
backstabbing
all the time
one of them asked my phone number
she was a cute etruscan lady
who looked like she could slit a man's neck
and also other parts, heck!

they wear robes
they're behind everything
Shulgi ins't already
they are behind him too
they made him
but didn't know what they were unleashing
The fools!

I can't go to the shower anymore
Dios made the floor slippery
My food is poisoned
My water is yucky
My freezer has a land-mine on the door
My mech wants to kill humans
Yua is in horror
She's full of viruses
Oh doh!

I would ask for confort
From Kyrie
or Erika
Maybe even bro it up with Ean and Shulgi
Cut up some bodies with Sekh
or string Gallardo's neck
But I can't
They're Dios
All Dios
Everywhere
All the Time
Watching me

Thirteen of them
Cursed number
The betrayer's own

I dreamed Shulgi was everyone too
I was scared
He was Azo, Grimrock, Relius, Ioannes
And whoever else I could remember
(I think he was my father too, good thing I'm adopted)

But compared to thirteen dios
Going everywhere, all the time
Ruling the world in the shadow of God
I can't even plead for help, he just watches watches
Like a voyeur
They backstab each other when they're not playing cards

(now I just need to make a decent rhyme and convert into a song. Anyone volunteers for vocals?)

No degeneracy could hold up against religious fanatism! Degenerates are weak and fragile,they thrive trough temptation and weak words,fanatics on the other side don't give a shit about such things,they prefer to flagellate themself and behead the enemies of their fate. It is shame that our religion had lost its zeal.

just as I had intuited, choice D was a way to unlock our latent talent (damn I just discovered a new palindrome) for instant transmission. now whenever we need to get somewhere quick we just drink a bottle of expensive brandy until we pass out and we will wake up at our desired destination.

God, I actually love this. I'm actually a fan of Blizzard again because they're such CUNTS. They got every Diablo fan in a big auditorium just to make them watch a snuff movie of their franchise being brutally murdered with a shovel. Do you know the best part of this? They actually give Blizzcon goers a "loot bag" sort of thing which has a bunch of little souvenirs to remind you that you were there. Hahahaha, every Diablo fan that just got their heart ripped out of them by Kano a few hours ago has something to always remember this event by.
Well done, Blizzard. This was a master troll. What madmen. Fuck those losers.

All those who share the blood of germans without sufficient sublimation with the spirit of mediterranean civilization are destined to become harbingers of the apocalypse and destroyers of Christian culture.

Sawyer's hipster imperialism, rape apologism and longing for failed austrian leadership is but a reflection of that.

21st century anti-globalism is THE greatest popular uprising against the rich and powerful ever known to men. Communist shitstains promised to fight the "evul capitalists", only killed a bunch of random people for no reason and eventually became the bitchboys of the Globalist Cabal that is composed entirely of the fucking 1%. Ours is a fight of the common men and women against the people who control all the media, the entertainment industry, the banks, the megacorporations, the international bureaucracy (EU/UN/OEA etc) and probably more stuff I forgot about. Only God is on our side and he is all that really matters.

Re: Ean/Senya interaction - I wasn't the one who asked you guys to split them up for the war.

I'd considered introducing a new character for antagonist, or turning Rei into an antagonist.

And for the CK2 thing, there wouldn't be a need to bring in Concordiat or Indus seeing as the Shinar Empire spans the entirety of Europe eventually and never made any real headway into Asia. It would probably function much like the Holy Roman Empire.

Re: Ean/Senya interaction - I wasn't the one who asked you guys to split them up for the war.

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I really pushed for splitting our forces considering the size of our Invasion Fleet - was this a bad idea? My reasoning was that we would rather have a fight at Bainur than at Carneus Beta, so if one force hits Gelmark by surprise, it would draw them to protect one of their important worlds, but of course, hindsight is 20/20. Also, since Tejat A and Gelmark were so close, we could link up relatively quickly should something unforeseen happen.

I had voted to return to Ean after finding out about Vajra Shula instead of going full-Shepard into Carneus Beta on our own, so we probably would have had interactions with him there eventually, once we linked up at Bainur.

Well, the major issue is that communication between systems isn't in FTL real-time.

You can see the problem that poses. It's not like you can call ahead and go, hey, I'm going to go here instead, so I'll meet you there. Given the time limit you have, you can't really afford to spend weeks dashing between systems to meet up with the other. It can easily end up like a comedy where you keep just missing the others.

Shulgi managed to lead Mere to Ean because he was could predict the most likely locations Ean would be at. Senya could do the same, but again, there is no guarantee: Shulgi got it wrong the first time too. And in such circumstances, one miss could be fatal.

In this scenario splitting up is okay if you commit to remaining split and advance accordingly on Carneus Beta, making do with what you have. Panicking and attempting to rejoin as the first thing you do after encountering unforeseen circumstances? It's not exactly a disastrous move, but it means you lose the momentum you had with the surprise attack on Gelmark, which means strategically (just considering the fleets, none of the special units) it was a waste of time and resources to split up. Also, consider the fact that they want to stop the bomb. This can be used as a lure of sorts to control the enemy's movements and make them predictable, but that if I recall correctly that didn't really show in the strategies that were proposed.

“I am the arbiter and the gatekeeper. None shall pass from this dimension except through my will,” I say. “And it is my will, sincerely, that we all sit down and play cards for eternity.” There are a couple of instinctive groans from the Masters. I see Ean staring at me, a strange expression on his face, while Shulgi has an amused smile.

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What Shulgi and Ean thought back then?

How much of council of nine survived war?
Who are former immortals opposing new world order?

Ps
After thinking about it Senya is probably most awesome person in galaxy now. I mean he is similar to Dio in terms of trickery. Dio was able to trick Shulgi when he was what 40-50 compared to guy who was scheming since empire Dio was born was still non existent is BIG achievement. Senya was able to trick Dio in lifespan of average human. He made great progress from person having problem to run 100 meters and afraid of few flesh monsters to number 2 toughest person in universe behind Dio.
He did fight battle royal against rest of team, but had to band up with them against Dio.
Hats off!

Well, the major issue is that communication between systems isn't in FTL real-time.

You can see the problem that poses. It's not like you can call ahead and go, hey, I'm going to go here instead, so I'll meet you there. Given the time limit you have, you can't really afford to spend weeks dashing between systems to meet up with the other. It can easily end up like a comedy where you keep just missing the others.

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If this was *that* complicated, the Age of Sail would have never worked

I've played Starcraft for its story. Twice seven times. I am *the* Storyfag.

You don't coordinate simultaneous island-hopping assaults and fleet engagements across the Pacific in the Age of Sail either. Also, you cannot send or receive communications in slipspace, so you're basically blacking out comms for lengthy periods of time.

I'm not saying it can't work, but... well, it could. If I take away all player choice and have Senya do the thinking. Putting it up to a vote doesn't seem to end well, unless you guys are very, very thoughtful with the voting. Haven't had that happen since Tjaru, so...

“I am the arbiter and the gatekeeper. None shall pass from this dimension except through my will,” I say. “And it is my will, sincerely, that we all sit down and play cards for eternity.” There are a couple of instinctive groans from the Masters. I see Ean staring at me, a strange expression on his face, while Shulgi has an amused smile.

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What Shulgi and Ean thought back then?
How much of council of nine survived war?
Who are former immortals opposing new world order?

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Shulgi is amused. Ean is wary and suspicious.

Three of them survived, one of them is cooperative.

At least a dozen of them. No point naming names, they have not been introduced.

I think after Tjaru we were all a bit anxious in the Labyrinth, then when it all worked out into the Shinar Empire got a bit trigger happy with the Spheres. I thought we did pretty well as Dio, but the Senya age was the true decline in collective decision-making ability. :shame: