so who needs another wheel throwing video?

updated fri 2 oct 09

Veena Raghavan on wed 30 sep 09

Hi Bill,

With all your skills and experience, I am sure that you have a different
perspective from other videos. I would think that watching different potter=
s
throw will always be helpful, especially for beginners, as it gives them an
idea of the many methods used. Each potter develops his or her own skills,
and these will show up and be of use to anyone learning to throw. I say, g=
o
for it.

William & Susan Schran User on wed 30 sep 09

Folks,

I'm working with one of my students who is a video producer for Voice of
America to produce a beginning wheel throwing video.

I had one of our audio video techs at school shoot a video of me throwing
several years ago so I could have a video my students could borrow, take
home and review what I taught them in class. Not a well made video and poor
sound quality, but it served it's purpose.

Was thinking maybe I would take this beyond my classroom/students.
So far this video describes tools to be used, wedging, a careful demo and
voice explanation of throwing cylindrical forms (20 minutes just on this),
trimming, then a visual summary of the process.

Jim Willett on thu 1 oct 09

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work good for us as we sell a few a month at that price.

Jim
http://www.outofthefirestudio.com
http://www.howtomakepottery.com

On YouTube keywords "Cindy,Clarke,Pottery"

ivor & olive lewis on thu 1 oct 09

Dear Bill,
I would look forward to watching a HD-DVD of several throwing processes tha=
t
has been designed to illustrate what has never been revealed by previous
productions. There is a real need to explain what the interior digits are
doing. But to achieve that you would need to use transparent clay.
Having pressure sensors on your fingertips might also help, to show the
direction and intensity of pressure that has to be exerted in accomplishing
various alterations of direction would be useful to know as well.
Finally, a clip of production rate throwing of mug bodies would add a sense
of reality in to the program.

Best regards,
Ivor Lewis,
Redhill,
South Australia

William & Susan Schran User on thu 1 oct 09

On 10/1/09 2:01 AM, "ivor & olive lewis" wrote:

> Dear Bill,
> I would look forward to watching a HD-DVD of several throwing processes t=
hat
> has been designed to illustrate what has never been revealed by previous
> productions. There is a real need to explain what the interior digits are
> doing. But to achieve that you would need to use transparent clay.
> Having pressure sensors on your fingertips might also help, to show the
> direction and intensity of pressure that has to be exerted in accomplishi=
ng
> various alterations of direction would be useful to know as well.
> Finally, a clip of production rate throwing of mug bodies would add a sen=
se
> of reality in to the program.

What a great idea.
Maybe I should use porcelain, fire until it's translucent and then I could
throw that.
Then attach little lights to my fingers, then viewers could see my finger
position on the interior.
Wonderful!

Thank you for the suggestions, certainly questions on the minds of
beginners.

Bonnie Staffel on thu 1 oct 09

Bill,=3D20

When I was working at the Folk School back in the late 80's, one of my
student's husband video taped my beginning methods of teaching them so =3D
she
could have it for her use after the one week class was over. I got =3D
bitten by
the bug and started to make them for sale, upgrading and getting a =3D
better
showing. Now I have both kinds of methods shown in my signature. =3D
However, as
I have had excellent reviews of my Introduction DVD, sales are not as
frequent as I had wished. The Potters Shop has purchased my Throwing =3D
with
Coils and Slabs as it is different from the usual beginners offering.=3D20

IMO making a video of some type of different method that you have =3D
developed
would be of more interest to the pottery population. If the taping of =3D
you
working is costing you a lot of money, then I would definitely say not =3D
to do
it for sure. You also need to factor in the cost of duplicating the =3D
videos
or DVDs as well as your time to advertise, take orders and ship them.=3D20

I have an ulterior motive for the sale of my DVD's because my family =3D
started
a art fund in my name in the area Foundation to give grants to potters =3D
for
education, art centers, etc. So some of the money made from my sales =3D
goes
into that fund. The Foundation then invests the accumulated money and am
happy to say that in these economically bad times, a grant was given for =
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a
special offering at the local art center. This is my legacy to my =3D
community
to live on after I am gone. However, I am planning on reaching at least
100 The fund ought to grow to a nice sum by that time!!!!

Bonnie

http://webpages.charter.net/bstaffel/
http://vasefinder.com/bstaffelgallery1.html
DVD=3DA0 Throwing with Coils and Slabs
DVD=3DA0 Introduction to Wheel Work
Charter Member Potters Council

Original message--------

>Was thinking maybe I would take this beyond my classroom/students.
So far this video describes tools to be used, wedging, a careful demo =3D
and
voice explanation of throwing cylindrical forms (20 minutes just on =3D
this),
trimming, then a visual summary of the process.

So - is yet another beginning wheel throwing video needed?

I appreciate everyone's thoughts.

>Bill

Jess McKenzie on thu 1 oct 09

You'll need to push hard to beat Cindy's video. We bought it.
We also looked at--and liked--one with Dennise Buckley, "A
Potters Progress." We found that one in our local library.
Great out-takes ... if you read lips.
We've watched about 6 potters, including these two, and we
agree with Jim: each throws somewhat differently. Nice to
know that there's room for variation.
~joan and jess

Jim at http://www.outofthefirestudio.com wrote

Always room for one more! Since every potter has different
approaches to many things, it is always an education to watch
someone else do it. That said, don't go into it expecting to
recoup your investment very quickly, if at all. There are just
not that many interested people out there willing to spend
money on a DVD with all the free instruction available through
You Tube and the like. $20 seems to work good for us as we
sell a few a month at that price.

Patty on thu 1 oct 09

Don't know about "need one", but I want one. Everytime I watch a throwing
demo I see something new or am reminded of something I should have
remembered. Demos inspire.

Patty Kaliher

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