Dialed In 136: RIM on the comeback trail?

July 28, 2010

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I I know every line it is still like tiny -- than welcome 2000 and cnet's up some podcasts I am senior editor -- -- time here in new York and in San Francisco we've got.
Kent German and Nicole Lee disk until cart and teeth and panel everyday. It.
Funny. Way you think it.
Well let's dive right in net saying with the rumor of the week and alignment has peaked -- and and -- But it.
There's a rumor going around that.
Right and make you -- -- -- 2.2 for rodeo you three of their hand that's the parade they generating credible and the jury.
All literally it's all the -- Scott Webster had this post for injury -- atlas and so it it -- it looks like bears.
Rumored to begin around August 6 amendment that updates would run through -- gates if he.
And this would be different I mean if this is true this would be the person right in the --
And how do. You know going different yeah horror again well -- -- though.
So isn't it has nice when you have an Android phone news.
On -- morning something. And oh yeah and make us yeah.
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Yes and that's and that's good.
We've had an essentially anything you Android in here and they're doing this the drug which is great but then you'll hear the reports the presence of the -- is being phased out it's like seven months 68 months moments on whatever it is just it's -- since it -- replacement.
And at the Nexus One that has continued in you know and if that's built in -- -- -- --
Abandon the -- would you mind just they officially -- okay you to -- yet again and and the video I don't.
You have hit it with Hulu it was only -- -- -- you think so much on god you ask me yet awhile though -- me to human.
Though. Never really -- this one's pretty nice I like it had outstanding count.
Yeah I think adding -- related says its current good -- because distributed to write to you coming. And that's -- -- advancement today.
But that -- get that to point out there a -- to react.
Yeah its push it out.
What's really interesting about this is that there are three different phones with three different you allies won hands these -- Android.
-- and what has moto blur one has sent this thing for them all to like have this timed -- together gathered in the past it seemed kind of like.
You know tricky for like cents to --
Brought to you and I -- -- -- at the same if this is true yes man.
Could it could it could be just that the manufacturers have finally gotten.
I feel I feel far. -- -- this yeah -- -- finally getting getting ready my name -- -- have a feel for it and just animate it it.
-- you know it will Andrea to go into his announcement. Was it named them and so I yeah.
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And then through detector phones that -- -- -- hopefully yet it's you should.
Right let's move on to some news -- it at pretty big line. It is.
Now legal to jailbreak your phone. And and in your other -- time.
-- break anything really that hey you wanna talk about the permanent.
Well yes the US Copyright Office -- on Monday that jail breaking your phone which previously.
Had violated an additional -- to -- -- it was is now now legal.
So you can go and you can jailbreak your phone and Apple can --
While not -- not that necessarily that you cannot be held legally you are breaking the law.
You still break here. You want your agreement yeah yeah well different warranty is and -- -- software license agreement.
So technically in Erica -- indictment however that this technically.
Apple could go after you for breaking software license agreement but it is very unlikely that they would -- -- Just because.
It's as it does the a lot of work and probably pretty bad PR for -- but so I'm not gonna happen.
But this is this is that this is -- this is.
It's big in the sense that it's nice that it's it's there but I don't think that it is significant and that's really gonna change how people in how many people do it.
I mean I I don't I know a lot of people haven't done jail breaking their own hands. It would be and I can't think that.
Just because it's legal now oh that's gonna make a lot more people -- like millions if opinion it's waiting them for science.
But it is but it isn't just CNN I I certainly agree with I I'm -- -- broken and and -- won't because the the in CNET iPhone that we have and we have to use that test.
Yeah iPhone OS updates and you we wanna have it has the most experience memos customers' experience that so we don't ruin unfortunately Canon I think is -- -- -- and so some announcements of when asked about -- remember that the market in -- -- -- -- the market has always been legal.
While legal -- -- time and Jill brake.
-- braking is where you remove Apple's restrictions that allow you to that that -- move out remove levels restrictions that.
Wouldn't let you upload or download apps that -- an app stores and I can put on -- a few -- I'm Martinez just removing the restrictions typed AT&T C you can do both to the handset or you can do only one.
To me by -- -- -- now become so I think it's a good idea I like what's choice for consumers this moratorium so I'm favorite.
And this is it though I had to I was gonna say it just seems like there is going to be sort of a fringe group.
That maybe being kept honest because of the legality issue -- sort of experiment with little little bit mark.
And you know -- if they don't like it they know that there's -- options revert back to factory settings.
You know it carries a couple risking its gotta remember that -- mean you. You're an REU can yet.
If you if you load something on him from the comes not from the app store could have some -- with the -- it could have any malware on and I'm.
You don't you are gonna have to unlock the -- over the phone every time you download -- software updates every time you continuous update.
That's gonna reset your -- sorry -- see you're gonna have to jailbreak it again so it's it's.
You know it's not like -- you do once and then you're done and you should follow directions -- carefully.
There are you do what you want TSE's but did Europe for the task I think -- the rewards can be good.
Yeah I didn't say I mean it that the sort of flip side to it that.
Some people used that the jail breaking to get. Heat apps for free that these -- -- apps for free.
I mean I don't I'm not -- favour that's just affecting developers should get paid for the time and money into the --
So you know -- a precaution. And I do think it's a good idea to make.
Because he -- try before you buy apps India I can start so if you wanna do that this kind of cool but you know.
Like my philosophy is always -- if you think the app is worth the money just. PPP -- it.
But just in time it actually understanding that -- freedom's great and you know I don't think it'll act it -- out of it in the increase the number of children as -- say.
Just as this because it's illegal but if the -- that it it is legal.
Makes it a lot more palatable for -- experimenters.
Think people who you are curious but probably -- -- then yeah exactly yeah now does this open up the doors for a more legal alternative app store and it if it does then I think that number that potential number probably will increase -- -- because then he'll have more.
Options are more reason to do that I think that there is.
Still pretty Napster and wanted it is but I'm not childish. But I thought isn't -- profiling yeah -- and it -- -- -- and 2000.
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So that you.
That's -- thing though it that we take Atkins com an -- contentment and he is asking me questions about that.
Sticking with iPhone love it can't use checked out IRS or plain two point one of -- and -- and.
I'm a little bit of them I know.
How do you think -- and to think that that well the reason behind this is that as as most people probably now islands for I was Ford -- here to outline.
What it was designed to do is designs and how bars are displayed in the iphone's screen so it has nothing to do with improving reception and it -- -- about variant and even.
Some have confused them.
Is strictly about Apple's saying Apple the iPhone is registering more arts and it -- to victory is ours this is designed to make the part on past and so I wanted to see if that was true and -- and it is an entirely unscientific study it and equipment with him about newly.
I only what I did is I was designing Apple so this is about how parts -- -- -- that's only thing in an embryo phones and item in the carriers and this is only about the so I took two iphones one -- -- -- -- one that did not want to not.
That and a bunch of different places and just was looking how -- answer our our -- bars where we're showing and yet.
Yes you marketing other variables involved by the -- a lot of different locations and what it really found is that.
At the very by at the very top of the scale so when you getting five bars resonated for inspect it really only -- in the mid range so when you were down in places where.
You had --
Unity you have maybe two to three bars on the on the phone that has been updated you actually have a couple more -- -- -- wasn't updated.
It's in those areas of middle reception in the phone account effects while showing more --
President on the other end when he got to the bottom so once hasn't subway tunnel once is an about displays and about reception.
-- the actual phone that was updated was showing one more --
It it it follow somewhat of a pattern but vast difference really seems to be in the middle range so this isn't seeing notes that. The fixed.
In -- lot of debate on.
You know what that's that's really means and it.
You know it's like fuzzy -- and human there are particular. Or if the -- -- that it doesn't change.
Over com that -- signal which it game.
It just displays a different place that we wanted to go in and find out what this really users.
Brit and EM -- features that in with the -- -- you know announcing it was in India for a dot zero --
That's right -- -- -- Enhancements that.
Port outline which is only -- -- developers.
Adds a few things right about that some. Light blinking when -- now this couple Bluetooth things it was really minor updates but this for an answer about one.
Is only about the.
Ours that have yet and I'm looking forward to -- -- to fix it because the quality of the -- issues that it's currently having.
So the from the parent for open ocean in new tests that are in have been -- practical -- -- -- Bluetooth and she is getting so many.
People -- in that -- death is that Bluetooth connectivity issues and muffled sounds -- -- that so.
Oh and -- trying to follow up on it and just to conceive did I don't continue to for a four point 19.
And then. And rim is back in the new they've been quite from -- -- of the from a rapidly but days you know they are holding an event next Tuesday and they about the ocean off -- bear.
But imperialists X home screen means that -- going -- inside any yes.
Yeah and commitment to seeing how like a lot of the videos that issue on their website.
-- suit emphasize the touch as I -- of the phones at -- a lot of touch screen blackberries right -- and it only that the space storms -- that -- planning.
In fact at I was kind of interesting that -- he visited -- do you -- the facts and aspects of the UI.
Anyway so the new home screen.
Right the main things is that you'll have these homes mean -- visibility -- and and and at different icons you -- mean.
He doesn't have different views -- in his view of the unit media -- you frequently used the -- shouldn't abuse in -- excellent view of the --
It -- means.
And you could access you know -- -- quick -- unit notifications by.
It's all about -- making it really easy he access these different little things.
And needing to use their -- an explanation of that the homes -- evolution.
It's shocking is very similar to and right actually happened in that you -- just -- the little notification aspirants pop up with this whole list of medications.
You can just happens -- -- different different views of different different folders.
That it just struck me as not not exactly and -- a sort of peeking a little bit of committed of its mission from -- -- -- -- Wednesday.
So.
Interesting. Not mother not a huge change from previous. I think.
But enough so that you will definitely see you did -- yet you I think universal search is big mail in a look closer each deal.
So the -- accept yes of the way that works is that you just entry in a few a few letters.
And it was the first -- through your your actual phone is key to any contacts --
Application that matches that those keywords if not just pop of a little new Google search of -- after.
And then you can just such global foreign governments keep it now.
It's it's a pretty sort of smart.
-- music president's.
Simple thing -- now that's an important link in and I think it's now something by users expect -- down there he was -- the other in fact I want to compete. All of those elements I like that feature around like a Helio ocean like yeah -- I mean you know.
Yet banks Blackberry finally catching --
I mean is great knows its effect with a -- look forward to and they can be pepperoni have a lot of room to catch up -- I mean.
And -- in an iPhone and even windows phone seven has been getting out of that lies beneath.
Multiple notifications bar and obviously an image and when you standard for a little while and it's -- American gondola from experts with and when it's hearing.
Her first couple times -- tap the top of the screen and turn it like I know you've got the panic -- rate I don't have that here for day.
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But and -- likely make it a preview of a new factory -- -- for an -- out if their grade.
If in -- in play and yet in New York I believe -- -- -- it will be there expect that.
8 am Pacific and -- am eastern and and -- -- eighteenth he now.
So it's gonna be -- keeps surprising me they.
We just did crashed -- event I think the -- but -- through Amazon.
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But yet we will be there are certainly taking. It out to eat and who wants to but it's gonna -- touch screen.
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Yeah not gonna we're gonna get the Jessica come on and yeah. Yeah.
And it and it -- all of the debate is neat to sneak.
Peek preview all of -- went at. It again and -- insisted just to be like as as a whole portfolio. And it has added if there.
Gonna move on attracting some and -- -- get your rate all the PV it very much yeah you know on the just -- -- at the -- -- that movie ion Motorola has introduced a couple new phones where these mobile them in on amber rambler and the Motorola rambler as -- it's a messaging but it's a -- messaging -- -- -- -- --
Accident in a typical messaging features and email and in -- of five.
-- point three megapixel camera not -- not too fancy. -- PS you'll be available for 9999. And August 11.
Also available for a boost is the Motorola body.
It's that I -- body needs and --
Even more simple phone but it's more expensive to 1401998. Because he has MP3 player.
Touch controls something like that -- -- -- the -- -- and that those are available on.
Well that's generally think of implement.
I know anywhere Bali I am very. A picture you wanna bring myself but I -- -- everything that.
And then obviously -- this -- from an. Island.
If I had taken it up in the -- It.
That he and and asking you had this -- and these.
Iron and then earned the right name brand name I like the name -- to its -- time. Yeah.
That's sent in its Samsung. If you breathe it could. Look at -- book of these done.
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-- don't -- and it yes indeed from Verizon and Samsung. And -- finished display it's got a lot of the features that you expect the on the phone geared towards the silver haired fat.
While pad buttons everything a little bit bigger. Vocalist menu selection voice command.
Also that three he ice -- -- -- emergency contact and 911 quick file but just taking a look at it.
Compared to you the phone that I reviewed last week.
The key CD CD and make 8635. I think given is definitely -- better.
I -- fellow that works yeah a picture and had to prince Edward. If you -- found.
It looks like it explains that with -- NN has been -- it looks like the flip -- that you might just wanna and this one just looks clunky analysts like.
You know the rugged outdoor is the military gear earlier heartless.
Look at the box the negative on at the Miami. Man but.
Now we'll see when I actually again and again with the -- -- on my parents and I am begin their seniors be. Carrying.
And lately and it has Nuno that you have. -- in yet so this is that the QQB -- is released -- -- -- that's -- a computing as a big thank you to exclusive that the update it into mr. bland bland you know -- -- -- this really.
Not adjusting -- it says it's all it's all about voice controlled with it it sets.
It's a would have seen features of -- control interface it was us and be very interesting call them.
Text to speech sedate you with you he was changed -- that that it SMS to use actual speech.
He's pretty cool for incoming color points and asymmetrical -- coming calling names and that's the that's pretty interesting.
Innocence -- with them being 411 -- -- is a one touch.
Attack on the button and it is unlikely dialing got things really get -- from saint -- marry aggressive about innings and interesting so.
This lady -- that you called being -- one -- -- -- --
Being number and a two DP -- streaming occupying. Available for 129. From eighteen he storms and it.
-- again. HTC also announced this week that on some of their phones are gonna switch T -- LCDs. And you know as you know this -- kind of been.
Full of smart buying smart -- and shortages in part of the problem is you know getting the right components and it.
-- -- he's been having a hard time getting -- displaced from fined them probably because they're using it on their phones but the so they're gonna switch -- -- LCDs and some of them and starting with that HTC desire and that global Nexus One later this summer.
And it you know they it they said it's gonna offer similar visual experience is it to the displays that are on the devices now but it out while I have better battery performance and like -- -- -- now.
-- I'm making.
Every it has a lot of stories -- the -- -- from Italy.
In until later this year.
And -- man they made an announcement only two days after you know -- press conference at Johnson -- -- -- idiots on schedule for its opponents of white.
Before -- the -- handled it.
I'm not such -- -- of the way.
Meant I had a lot emails raiders so there it is having an animated -- and and and appoint any differences so -- -- it comes out in November December.
And you have you know 67 months in tone from it happens and it's -- six.
And and and finally ETA and -- Cisco.
Yeah I mean some mountain OCT. If you cover all -- to treat -- there and -- it and.
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Characterized it as well a you know the first thing they did is they said we're no longer holding -- in San Cisco.
Which is annoying to me number one yeah -- by --
That's it has its it -- streets.
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You can get a -- gonna guide you can somebody go online go to user documentation --
By it's -- available directly you know you don't and we toaster not have to put it.
Listed in the story you know whether it's right next to the phone -- they just -- -- -- from long hours and so did.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
But -- characterizes I'm taking my ball and going home.
Is -- -- hey how are no longer going Holy -- tag here so this -- the last one. Way or alien.
No no.
At him and I'm not actually. And then -- -- -- men for.
I hope. They are so the phone on the west --
So anyway they are now suing and they filed a lawsuit to. Two. Prevent the -- -- implement. Because.
They say basically San Francisco does not have legal ground -- attempts does not have the authority to do this.
Because only the FCC. Regulates. And in the how's it going as well -- -- but it's not on saying it's perfectly sane and yes we have these guidelines in place on the phone so US and the one point six what's the there -- enough by it I mean.
As I've said it does because that's not prove that there and say it does mean has been -- they're perfectly so.
I don't think I think this today -- narco weigh as much as as much as -- ten months.
Timing and it's tiny it's recognized. That people are mean I -- -- in those readers every day.
That are concerned about this and you -- -- even.
-- people and they're just they're concerned about it and they wanna know what they can -- -- I don't really see the problem with.
Making this information readily available --
I mean --
If you're concerned about it you find out you'll -- and having it on the box is not connected to people who who -- I don't know.
So yes ETA's Lewis could -- arms of the story --
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Well well we get a couple of their news stories that term that Wilmington in the blood but but -- -- -- just the time. Included there.
We're gonna take a quick break and then moved him to repeat this.
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If nine -- and anxiety speaking of senior friendly phones if you -- while ago.
So the just iPhone you we facade is that -- today this year and it European company but he does cellphones here in the US.
In their offices in -- And in knowingly so. Just by phone is yes you can see from the picture -- -- -- -- images.
Barrier -- the call it a very simple call.
Very namesake like that one line of Texas campaign and monochrome display huge -- numbered keypad.
Very simple controls this up and down toggle -- -- key and content Ian side so.
By the think it does text messaging so that very simple basically TE BC -- messaging.
It has FM radio -- of cool actually.
The -- that they'll probably just a -- on -- -- Macromedia.
And that the that the point five million it -- sent activists like.
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And the call closed -- -- he did it mean and it's an unlocked phone.
So you can just use it with any sim card you have lying around -- you're -- US unit and making music Rogers whenever.
So you know it's expensive at 1110. Dollars but -- no contract using it and -- --
That PDE exit wanted to very simple calculator. I humbly and I.
And -- -- that it's it's preceded it may be just a kid -- -- yen but annual Buddhist belief that in really simple phone and on the back it doesn't look and ready to make an orange SOS emergency buttons while you can -- view -- -- -- when a caller to make that so many.
Basic simple I mean it that even the design one -- like.
And the red dot design wired and ion but it analyst is just very simple no nonsense -- medals.
Both the public about you know it doesn't break -- and unlocked is pretty good things began with -- teenagers worst nightmare.
If they -- Communist.
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Yeah yeah we've had a couple got a camera on mine now a word that we had a Sam we have a Samsung calculator.
Remember that it was two residents found for seniors -- anything but it looked exactly. And it was.
Now if you build this as a calculator that happens have a phone a little into the the Clinton I guess intelligently I -- it and -- and you need a calculator watch that it yet.
Come back this bit of a company if they -- have that if you look at this as being like these are so cool -- -- penicillin going to use and went.
-- they accede that as I exit -- yeah and the it.
Eight. And Nicole -- also like that that algae prime go phone.
Yes this part this is part of eighteen keys. Phone -- -- -- -- prying.
It is we usually see a lot of prepaid phones and it and a touch screen and on I use it pretty basic and of those.
So this one has attached in his one has a two megapixel camera each channel that browser.
Bluetooth pretty good call quality. We wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't suggest surfing the web with HM I'm good -- Fiji's it's pretty slow.
Can a sluggish. But notice -- --
Mobile that says it's usually and I think what the phone is only it's only nine in in an -- without a contract that these but he did -- -- price and now.
-- -- and really the what we're really affordable prepaid phone has had -- has.
And SMS email on all of that I think the PP.
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The sidekick but it actually -- even more like eighteen he creek fire is part of it means --
Texting pounds -- texture. We'll take a look at that.
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McCauley an alphabet that LG -- night in -- -- day.
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Right and then the Motorola Ireland Spain. But at the supplement actually. From the police.
8 and I am will be taking and it's these you -- and there's little chip in your hands -- -- think that that's where you next week.
That is what we've -- tap that anyone that this Birmingham and and I.
It's very simple Christine yeah and Robert.
And he just asked that will Blackberry OS six be available on all -- but then that people -- that next week actually began -- -- -- it at any knew that -- was coming to sprint with wind acts.
The excess body had been at it and I haven't heard of anything and -- -- -- -- -- really hurting for connecting.
Maybe one -- -- models would be.
Able to update I think yes I did I did hear if I did read somewhere out on rim that some some older animals will be able to upgrade.
OSX in the U you'll be able to update some -- the albeit they doubled by do you think.
From the -- and limited range yes -- -- and you are models I think would be me in new model you valuable and upgrade six.
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Was sent to. Money -- it was a the podcast but it and Robert was pretty interesting.
Is that reader had checked and I'm -- that they were having.
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Steve. Steve. And Virginia and car and -- -- at -- and said that.
He made a face time in -- international space time called an -- charge for the call a dollar 69 at the cash and I was wondering what the deal with that lies and that we talked about it and what happens there of course if you have to make him when you haven't made -- call the so called face time called someone before.
You have to call them the regular method and he switched to -- much to do that you can then -- another call directly through time to go directly so.
-- time constant charge for -- conserve awhile buys that what happened in his case.
Is that he made initial call so he's over the regular cell network to its for an in the UK and then switch to paste.
So that initial connection and whoever's on you spend on the phone for you -- -- time.
And -- is you're gonna charge yet that she needed equipment and yeah so that's an important. That's an important thing to remember the men.
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From David who's very glad -- just come podcasts David it's -- audio.
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Degree and then on. And yeah but --
-- found dead if you've got any -- in -- and -- -- without -- you know that you can continent one EX.
Or easier to T 638. And of course you can. Blind and -- podcast at podcasts that --
And I think that does it for this week we will catch you next Wednesday.