MR. LOCKHART: Let's see. I have one travel
announcement to make before we get to questions. As the President
has done in past years, he will travel the day after the State of the
Union to amplify on the themes and policies of that speech. This
year, the President will travel to Buffalo, New York and to
Montgomery County, Pennsylvania on January 20th.

The Vice President and the First Lady will accompany the
President on this trip. It's a one-day trip. We'll be back by the
evening.

Q What are the events?

MR. LOCKHART: Well, it would be hard to sort of amplify
on themes we haven't articulated yet. We plan to deliver the speech.

Q Is he going because Buffalo was declared a local
emergency this morning? They've had 41 inches of snow since January
1st, they've called out the National Guard. (Laughter.)

MR. LOCKHART: I am personally now offering my staff to
go up and shovel off the site. (Laughter.)

Q Who is going with him?

MR. LOCKHART: The Vice President and the First Lady.

Q Why are they going? Is that part of the theme or what?

MR. LOCKHART: Yes. No, the Vice President and First
Lady went last year when we went to University of Illinois and to
Wisconsin.

Q Where in --

MR. LOCKHART: I don't have a city yet.

Q Joe, why does the President think it important that
he deliver the speech as scheduled on Tuesday?

MR. LOCKHART: Well, I think as we've said before,
what's going on in the Senate right now is important. The Senate
needs to take care of the business before them; but the agenda and
the policies that the President pursue, the people's business, also
has to go forward, and the President believes that it's proper that
he give the speech on the 19th and lay out his agenda for this year.

Q Does he find it awkward?

MR. LOCKHART: I think that there are certainly issues
-- the issue before the Senate, as I've said, is important. It's
certainly not something that the President or anybody here looks
forward to, but I don't think the President has the ability to be
distracted. The public expects him to stay focused on his work and
he intends to do that.

Q Do you think he will acknowledge the proceedings
during his speech?

MR. LOCKHART: I don't know.

Q Is the decision to go ahead on the 19th firm, or is
the White House still open to changing it if it need be?

MR. LOCKHART: The decision is firm.

Q I understand what you say, it's not something the
President looks forward to -- it's the impeachment trial or the
speech in the uncomfortable circumstances?

MR. LOCKHART: The President always looks forward to the
State of the Union speech as a chance to lay out his agenda. He has
enjoyed the work he's done to date on it, which has been rather
extensive, and I think he'll look forward to the evening.

Q Despite the uncomfortable circumstances?

MR. LOCKHART: Despite them.

Q Joe, is the President going to keep out of the
limelight for the duration of the trial? Is he not going to hold any
direct formal news conferences? I mean, he is a criminal defendant.
Is he going to speak out?

MR. LOCKHART: If holding a formal news conference was
the criteria for keeping out of the limelight, we would have kept a
pretty low profile here lately.

Q Once it starts?

MR. LOCKHART: But the answer is no, the President will
continue on a bigger schedule of events as he has over the last few
months.

Q And you don't preclude a formal news conference?

MR. LOCKHART: I don't preclude anything. I'm certainly
not giving any guidance on that front, though.

Q Just for the record, what do you make of the House
brief on the impeachment articles, and could you give us some insight
as to what you plan to file tomorrow?

MR. LOCKHART: I think what we'll file tomorrow is a
longer version of the answer to the charges; it's actually the trial
brief that will go through the factual and evidence -- the facts and
the evidence that have been put forward, and the constitutional and
legal issues and a much more expanded version of what you saw
yesterday.

As far as the House brief, I think, as I told you this
morning, that it is, at times, a hallmark of what is a weak factual
and constitutional case, that the allegations continue to shift and
that the rhetoric continues to be overblown. And I think those are
the two things that come out of that document.

We have a new bundling and interpretations of the
allegations against the President, at this late date. I think -- as
someone who is trying to defend themselves, you have a point
where you should understand what the charges are, and where you
should understand how they are put together and what the bases of
them are. And I think we saw some shifting in the documents,
just yesterday.

Q Joe, the articles haven't changed since they were
voted on by the House. Why do you say they are being rebundled?

MR. LOCKHART: The articles haven't changed, but if you
look at the legal brief, they have now sought to bring back in the
article that failed to get a majority vote. You have members telling
the media that, we've got a whole bunch of new stuff that we're ready
to spring on them. I think we're beyond the point of playing those
kind of games, and they should just argue their case.

Q Given this limiting of the charges, do you still
stand by what you stated this morning of how the brief reads?

MR. LOCKHART: Sure. I think there is overblown
rhetoric in there about sinister plots, and I think that it detracts
from the argument they're trying to make.

Q And "cheap mystery" as well?

MR. LOCKHART: That's a good phrase. (Laughter.)

Q How would you describe the administration response
to that, that has got to be in by, I think, 10:00 a.m. tomorrow
morning?

MR. LOCKHART: Detailed, well-argued and compelling.

Q But what kind of tone would it have, compared, for
instance, to the --

MR. LOCKHART: I think it will be based on the facts and
the law. I think those of you who have followed our submissions over
the last few months will see things that you've seen before. But it
will basically make the case that, on the facts and the evidence, the
articles are not supported, based on the facts. They're not
supported based on the Constitution, or do they have a sufficient
legal foundation.

Q Were any Senators consulted for their opinions on
the document?

MR. LOCKHART: Not that I'm aware of.

Q Joe, what was the President doing today vis-a-vis
the State of the Union, and preparing?

MR. LOCKHART: He's got a meeting this afternoon, I
believe. I think sometime in the next hour of so, I think he's got a
couple of hours blocked off for a meeting with his team.

Q What's going to be new, Joe, in the submission?
What are we likely to see that we haven't heard before?

MR. LOCKHART: If I told you what was going to be new
today, it wouldn't be new tomorrow.

Q All right, then let me come at it a different way.
Is there likely to be anything in this submission that we have not
seen before?

MR. LOCKHART: I am not going to signal what's in the
submission, just to give you a broad outline of what I expect it to
look like. You can wait until tomorrow, it will be out tomorrow
morning.

Q Well, I mean, you've said it will be an expanded
version of what the President has submitted so far --

MR. LOCKHART: Correct.

Q -- which, to the President's critics -- granted,
they're his critics -- has been totally insufficient, so what's the
point?

MR. LOCKHART: The point is, is there's a process here.
And the process calls for you to answer the charges formally and then
to file a trial brief formally. And we intend to respond in a way
that conforms with the rules and procedures of the Senate trial.

Q And you expect it to be effective?

MR. LOCKHART: I do.

Q You still don't know who is going to argue for the
President?

MR. LOCKHART: I still don't. I know the universe of
people; I don't know how it's all going to be done.

Q Is it the President's decision to dodge reporters
and duck us, to run off stages and so forth, for the millennium?

MR. LOCKHART: You can blame it on me.

Q Or is it your decision and the spinmeisters who are
keeping him away from us?

MR. LOCKHART: Is that a pejorative term? Spinmeisters?

Q Yes. It is pejorative.

MR. LOCKHART: I thought so. I know.

Q Whose is it?

Q To what extent, at this point in the proceeding, is
the White House making its case to individual Senators? In other
words, as the question came up this morning, the House prosecutors
gave individual copies of their presentation to individual Senators.
Is the White House going to that extent --

MR. LOCKHART: Yes, I didn't look into the logistics,
but I'm sure that our documents will get into the hands of all the
Senators, either through the leadership structure or directly. We
believe that all of them will read it and hope that they will find it
to be a persuasive document.

Q Does that go for everything that you're going to
send up there, like the rebuttal tomorrow?

MR. LOCKHART: Yes.

Q Are you anticipating anything in the State of the
Union that touches on impeachment?

MR. LOCKHART: I think I answered that before in saying
that I didn't know.

Q Joe, to follow up the earlier question, is Senator
Mitchell playing any role behind the scenes -- in an advisory
capacity, a consultative capacity?

MR. LOCKHART: Yes. A behind-the-scenes advisory and in
a consultative basis.

Q Is he talking to other Senators on your behalf?

MR. LOCKHART: I have not talked to Senator Mitchell. I
wouldn't preclude that he is talking to his old friends. I know that
his advice on how to proceed here has proved invaluable to the legal
team and the political team here, based on his knowledge of the
Senate.

Q Anyone else?

Q Will he be on the team that is before the Senate --

MR. LOCKHART: Not that I'm aware of.

Q Joe, is the President talking to individual
Senators even now about impeachment?

MR. LOCKHART: I know that the President talks to
Senators. I know he spoke to -- he had Senators at the State Dinner
last night, but I haven't checked into the details of any of the
conversations.

Q Does the President consider it appropriate for him
to talk to Senators about impeachment?

MR. LOCKHART: I think the President believes that the
Senators are sophisticated enough to not engage in an inappropriate
conversation.

Q Joe, is Mitchell -- I'm going to clarify this -- is
he consulting with the legal team, is he consulting directly with the
President?

MR. LOCKHART: I'd say he's consulting -- I'm certain
that he's spoken to the President -- I don't know when the last time
was. But it's mostly the legal and political team that are charged
with this.

Q And this is mainly on Senate procedures and his
knowledge of the individual personalities up there, or what?

MR. LOCKHART: It's basically moving on the Senate
trial. He's an accomplished and gifted lawyer, as well as someone
who probably knows as much about how the Senate works as anybody in
town.

Q Anyone else in that category?

MR. LOCKHART: Not that I know -- I mean, it is
informal, but I know that they talk to him on a pretty regular basis.
I don't know if there's other people. There are other former
senators who have called to inquire as to what they could do to help.
But I don't know that there's anything on any basis that's going
forward there.

Q Any Republicans that you've been able to enlist to
help you?

Q Bumpers?

MR. LOCKHART: Not that I'm aware of. I know that there
have been a variety of former Republican senators who have made
public statements about trying to shorten the process and find some
way to short-circuit this, but I don't know that we're in any way in
touch with them.

Q So Senator Dole isn't involved in this at all anymore?

MR. LOCKHART: No.

Q Joe, now that you've had the House brief, what
motions are you considering?

MR. LOCKHART: If we have motions, we will discuss them
at the appropriate time, which is not until the end of the Q&A
session.

Q What kind of reception do you feel yesterday's
filing received? Joe, what's your sense of how it was received by
the Senate?

MR. LOCKHART: I will leave that up to the 100 senators
who have to decide that. I haven't gotten any feedback one way or
the other.

Q Is that to say that you all are not gauging the
reception of your filing? Surely you are.

MR. LOCKHART: I'm going to leave it up to the 100
senators who will sit in judgment of this to render an opinion. I've
seen a lot of them on a lot of your channels, so you can ask them
directly.

Q Joe, yesterday's submission said that the charges
were vague. After reading the House response or the House game plan,
do you still feel like the charges are vague, or did they answer the
questions that you had?

MR. LOCKHART: That actually would probably be a better
one to put to the lawyers. I didn't ask them that specifically. I
was not made aware that anyone feels that they're any more specific
than they are now. It does go a little bit to the point that I said
before, that with each submission the charges change, and it's
difficult enough to defend yourself against a set of charges in these
circumstances; but when they change consistently, it makes it even
more difficult.

Q Joe, you said this morning that the Republican
brief read like a bad mystery novel.

MR. LOCKHART: I did.

Q And what's the mystery? (Laughter.)

MR. LOCKHART: I think it was more the language that was
employed.

Q Joe, can you explain to us the press arrangements
for today's speech? I understand it took place in a rather large
auditorium, but it was pool press --

MR. LOCKHART: No, I can't, because I wasn't involved in
those arrangements. You should ask my staff that does --

Q Well, I thought you said to blame you for the fact
that he wasn't --

MR. LOCKHART: Listen, if you all are sitting out there
thinking that I sit and decide whether something is pool or isn't,
you know that isn't the case, so ask the people who know. Is that
not clear, Josh?

Q No, it's not entirely.

MR. LOCKHART: Okay, then follow up.

Q I'm not clear. Who is making the decisions, then?
Apparently, it was a rather elaborate thing where there was a plastic
shield where people couldn't see the President.

MR. LOCKHART: Apparently? I don't know, I wasn't
there. Were you there?

Q I wasn't there. It was pool only, Joe. What am I
supposed to tell you?

MR. LOCKHART: Okay. I think you should, if you have a
problem, take it up with the Correspondents Association and we'll be
glad to look at it.

Q The Correspondents Association doesn't make these
arrangements.

MR. LOCKHART: Listen, you're asking me a question I
don't know the answer to. If you'd like, we'll take a filing break,
I'll go talk to my staff and come back with information. Is that
what we want to do?

Q Joe, let me just ask a general question, which is,
is there a decision here, or has the press operation or others here
made a decision that until the impeachment matter is resolved the
President won't get into a back and forth with the press corps?

MR. LOCKHART: No.

Q No, no decision, or no what?

Q That's bad.

MR. LOCKHART: What's bad?

Q It's bad to keep reporters away from the President.

MR. LOCKHART: Listen, if you seriously want to have a
serious conversation, come up to my office, we'll talk about it. If
you want to stand there and try to talk to me about something you
know I don't have knowledge of in a way to embarrass me, I don't
think that's productive. So let's move on.

Q You have no control over whether something is pool
or open?

MR. LOCKHART: I do; it's my office. But I'm telling
you that I don't make these decisions on a case-by-case basis. And
if you're asking me to look into this, I'll be glad to look into it.

Q We are trying to say to you that the President --

MR. LOCKHART: I understand what you're trying to say to
me.

Q -- that the President is being kept away from
reporters.

MR. LOCKHART: I take your point. I take your point.

Q For those of us who have covered this man since the
day he arrived in the White House, there has been a distinct lack of
access -- not just for the time that you've been press secretary, but
starting before that -- where the chance to regularly engage the
President in questions and answers, either informally in the Oval
Office or in the Roosevelt Room has been gone, and it's not just by
coincidence.

MR. LOCKHART: That is a different question than asking
me about an event I didn't go to and whether we purposely took a big
auditorium and made it pool. I will look into it. I will address
that question because that's, I believe, a legitimate question --
which is, we try to make the President available, there are times
when we, either through news conferences or in pool spray settings
that he is available. There are times that we go sometime where he's
not. And we have to make that judgment on a day-by-day basis --
which is, I think, a different thing than whether he's in a room that
should be pool or not.

Q Would you acknowledge that for the last several
weeks access to the President has been non-existent.

MR. LOCKHART: Certainly I'll acknowledge --

Q Why? Can you explain why?

Q When you said, you can blame me -- when asked
whether the President was trying to dodge the press and you said, you
can blame me -- we want to know whether this was a specific incident
in which we can blame you.

MR. LOCKHART: It was not. It was not. Okay, the
entourage proceeded to a small -- the pool report reports -- a small,
as in about 100 seats, auditorium with a pale terrazzo floor and a
dark wood-slated walls.

Q Joe, have the President's attorneys advised him
specifically that he should not take questions from reporters,
especially vis-a-vis the impeachment trial?

MR. LOCKHART: No, they have not.

Q They have not advised him to keep quiet about the trial?

MR. LOCKHART: They have not.

Q He is free to talk?

MR. LOCKHART: He is free to talk.

Q Has he said he is not interested in talking? Has
he given any instructions?

MR. LOCKHART: No, I think he has said to you on
numerous occasions that he doesn't know anything more productive he
can say on this subject. He'd love to talk about some other
subjects, some important things he's doing. It's hard for me to
remember when the last question like that was posed to him, but
that's not our job. Your job is to pose the questions; our job is to
try to answer them in the best way we know how.

Q Joe, is he afraid of answering questions at this point?

MR. LOCKHART: No.

Q But I guess what you said to Wendell was that it's
clear that in the last couple of weeks there's been less access and
you're aware of that, and then I guess you would be responsible for
that, at least in part.

MR. LOCKHART: That's how we started this conversation.

Q What is the thinking behind that? Is the sense
that it's just --

MR. LOCKHART: As I said yesterday, it's unproductive
right now to get into -- for the President to get into a long Q&A on
this subject, which I think is self-evident. But if it's not, then
we'll have to agree to disagree.

Q Joe, I know you're asked periodically about his
health and his mood. From what we see on television, he doesn't look
very good. Can you give us an idea of his mood, and is he taking any
sort of medication? (Laughter.) Seriously --

MR. LOCKHART: That's not a serious question, that's --

Q It's a very serious question, he's the leader of
the free world.

MR. LOCKHART: Yeah, but I don't think you have any
basis to ask that question, so we'll move on.

Q Well, why can't you tell us --

MR. LOCKHART: We'll move on.

Q -- if he's taking any sort of medication?

MR. LOCKHART: We'll move on.

Q Is the President well?

MR. LOCKHART: Yes, he's very well. He had a very
energized and animated conversation on the way over to the event with
the Vice President about both the event the Vice President did
yesterday and the event that the President did today, about how
important these initiatives are, and how it really is a kind of
fundamental shift in the way the government is going to approach
growth out in this country, as we move into the next millennium. So
he's, again, focused on what he is supposed to be doing.

Q Are there plans for the President to undergo any
medical procedures in the next few weeks?

MR. LOCKHART: Not that I'm aware of.

Q I'm dead serious.

MR. LOCKHART: I have no reason to doubt you're not, Wendell.

Q Do you think it's at all hypocritical, for example,
to announce the President's going to go on this long trip after the
State of the Union to see the public and travel around and be seen as
being out in the public, and yet, at the same time, you're saying
you're keeping him isolated from us?

MR. LOCKHART: I'm not saying I'm keeping him isolated.
The President goes out and speaks in public, through you, every day.
It's not every day that the President decides to enter a Q&A with
you, and that's a decision we make.

Q But it was fairly regular until recently.

MR. LOCKHART: Well, so be it. I don't view it as
hypocritical, though.

Q May I ask you an international question --

MR. LOCKHART: Sure.

Q -- there's been nothing on this. Since the APEC
Conference is in New Zealand next year and the Prime Minister of New
Zealand is here for two days starting tomorrow, does the President
have any intention of meeting with her? She's going to be with Al
Gore.

MR. LOCKHART: As David informs me, the Secretary of
State plans a meeting, as does the Vice President.

Q But the President has no plans --

MR. LOCKHART: No. If that changes, I'll let you know.

Q I'd appreciate it.

Q Joe, Larry Flynt says he's a supporter of the
President, says he just wants to help the President. Are these
revelations helping the President's case at all?

MR. LOCKHART: Absolutely not. I think the President has
been very clear, from before he even came to Washington -- I think,
on one of the Sunday shows from last week, they played a clip from
'92 of the President railing against the politics of personal
destruction -- the President's been very clear the whole time he's
been here that there's no place in this town for this kind of
politics, and it ought to come to an end. And I think that there is
responsibility to go all the way around on this and, frankly, if the
news media stopped covering some of this stuff -- I'm not arguing
about one story in particular, because judgments have to be made on a
case-by-case basis -- that maybe there wouldn't be such a market for
it. But the President doesn't believe that this has any place in our
politics, and has said so.

Q Has he talked to Larry Flynt?

MR. LOCKHART: No. I'm not sure he's ever spoken to
Larry Flynt.

Q Well, I thought he might want to convey that message.

Q The RNC is saying that the White House is helping
Mr. Flynt.

MR. LOCKHART: Well, the RNC ought to stop practicing
the politics of innuendo, which is just about as sleazy as the
politics of personal destruction. If they've got evidence, they
ought to bring it forward. If not, they ought to knock it off. And
people should stop carrying their water by printing things without
any foundation.

Q Has the White House talked to the RNC about that?

MR. LOCKHART: No. We don't have an open line of
communication to that organization.

Q Joe, you've been clear that the President's State
of the Union address is firm and going forward. Has the senior staff
or the President spoken to the Senate leadership in the last few days
about their feelings, whether it's appropriate?

MR. LOCKHART: Yes, I think we've made it clear, both on
the staff level and whatever contacts we've had with senators, that
we plan to go forward. There are certainly different opinions, even
among the parties, about whether the President should go forward, but
we believe that the appropriate thing to do is go forward and give
the speech.

Q He was invited, wasn't he?

MR. LOCKHART: That's correct.

Q Not to put too fine a point on it, Joe, but I --
has some scenario similar to Podesta calling Lott and saying, look,
we're coming, we're firm on this -- has there been some communication
back to the Senate, other than from the podium, that sort of thing?

MR. LOCKHART: I'm not aware that there's been any
formal communication. I don't know that anyone has spoken to Senator
Lott in the last few days. But I think, in the conversations, the
informal conversations we have had with staff and Senate and -- I
think most of those are with Democratic staff, but not exclusive --
we've indicated that it's our intention to accept the invitation and
come up on the 19th.

Q Is there any chance at all that he could change his
mind, Joe?

MR. LOCKHART: I think I have said several times here
that we intend to be there on the 19th.

Q Your comments on the Flynt news interview and news
conference and such -- did the President say anything to you,
specifically, about Larry Flynt and what he's been doing?

MR. LOCKHART: No.

Q Or the senior staff --

MR. LOCKHART: He has said to us repeatedly, on the
broader subject, that he has no tolerance for this kind of activity,
won't tolerate it with anybody on his staff, and believes that we
have come to a point where somebody has to stand up and try to put an
end to this. And we can't condone this kind of politics.

Q But he hasn't said anything specifically about this?

MR. LOCKHART: No, I haven't talked to him about this in
the last day or so. Certainly not in relation to any specific news
or any specific event in the last day.

Q Well, Joe, do you think that if the President
issued, perhaps, a very specific statement -- didn't pick up the
phone but issued a very specific public statement, addressing Flynt,
that perhaps Flynt would be shamed into stopping it?

Q "Dear Larry" -- (laughter.)

MR. LOCKHART: It's hard for me to understand or to
calibrate what it would take to shame him into doing something.
(Laughter.) But let me say this, that I've said repeatedly from here
where the President is, and I think that if you go back over the last
10 years, you will not find a political figure in this country who
has been more consistent and more outspoken on this subject than the
President.

Q Joe, you said that the President is not afraid to
answer questions, but it's not prudent, or whatever word you used, to
do it at this time --

MR. LOCKHART: "Productive" was the word I used.

Q -- so can't we infer that during the course of the
trial it's not going to be productive as well, and that we won't get
a question in?

MR. LOCKHART: No, maybe we'll change our minds.

Q It's a concern that he might say something that
would antagonize the jurors?

MR. LOCKHART: Listen, I think we've done enough on
this. I understand your concern, I understand where you're all
coming from. I am not trying to be contentious here. We make our
decisions, we live with them, and I don't think it would be
productive to keep going around and around on this.

Q Joe, what does the President hope these sanctions
that Sandy Berger announced against Russian institutions accomplish?

MR. LOCKHART: Well, I think we have a broad and
wide-ranging non-proliferation regime, particularly when it comes to
working with the Russians on moving technology or expertise on
weapons of mass destruction. This is one part of it, where he can
take administrative action, and it will put these three companies out
of business as far as dealing with the United States government. We
continue to work with the Russians on a broader range of issues.
They've enacted some tough new laws, but there's more work that they
need to be doing, and we will continue to work with them.

Q Well, isn't the U.S. argument really with the
Kremlin and not with three individual companies or institutions?

MR. LOCKHART: No, I think that we continue to work with
the Russian government. They have taken some steps; we believe they
need to take further steps. I can't get into the details of these
particular companies and what they may or may not have been doing,
but these companies, we believe, were taking steps that made it
impossible for the United States government to work with them.

Q Joe, what's the latest development on the situation
over the incident over Iraq this morning?

MR. LOCKHART: I would actually defer to the Pentagon
-- let me see if I have something on that -- as I think they reported
this morning, there was an F-16 that was tracked by early-warning
radar. The pilot of that plane took the appropriate response of
firing a HARM missile, and returned safely to base.

Q Is the U.S. sending more planes to Iraq, I mean, to
the area?

MR. LOCKHART: Not that I'm aware of. I'd put that
question to the Pentagon, though. It's not something that I've been
briefed on.

Q Joe, many people at the White House say that James
Carville is his own person and he does his own thing. Is the White
House standing firm that, while it did not aid Larry Flynt in --

MR. LOCKHART: I've never been asked the question. I
have no idea what James is doing. The President has been clear on
this subject. You'd have to ask that question of James.

Q The RNC has strictly said -- well, it's specifically saying
that Carville is the one, on advice of the White House to put this
out --

MR. LOCKHART: That's an absolutely baseless charge and
at some point there ought to be a price to pay for making baseless
charges and practicing the politics of innuendo.

Q And what's that price?

MR. LOCKHART: I don't know. I think you are all in a
better position to decide whether these are credible news sources
that you get your information from.

Q Joe, once the President's budget comes out in early
February, is it the administration's assumption that the individual
proposals will not be able to run on a simultaneous track with the
Senate trial and that everything is basically going to be held
hostage until that trial ends? I mean, are you running under that
assumption?

MR. LOCKHART: I don't think we've made any firm
assumptions. We plan to put forward an agenda and hope that the
House and the Senate will move forward as quickly as they see
possible in implementing that agenda.

Q Is it possible to do that on an abbreviated
schedule, when from noon on every day there would be a trial?

MR. LOCKHART: Well, I think that's a question better
put to the Senate. I mean, it is still our hope that we can wrap the
trial up in the Senate in an expeditious way and that this won't --
that the two won't necessarily conflict.