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Couple jailed over Lee Rigby videos which glorified his murder

A British Muslim couple were jailed today for glorifying the murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby in videos posted on YouTube that were "offensive in the extreme".

Royal Barnes, 23, and his wife Rebekah Dawson, 22, recorded and uploaded three videos shortly after the murder in Woolwich last May.

Barnes was jailed for five years and four months at the Old Bailey after pleading guilty last month to three counts of disseminating a terrorist publication and one of inciting murder.

His wife, who insisted on wearing her veil in court, admitted charges of disseminating a terrorist publication and was sentenced to 20 months in prison.

Judge Brian Barker QC told them the videos they made were "offensive in the extreme".

He said the couple showed "a total and continuing disregard" for how their actions might affect the family of trooper Rigby, those people who witnessed the murder and the British public.

Barnes, 23, and Dawson 22, of Hackney, north east London, embraced in the dock and insisted they would not be separated by a security guard at the start of the hearing.

Before sentencing, the judge asked Dawson's lawyer to confirm the defendant was the woman in the dock in the full veil.

The court heard the first of the three videos was made on the day Fusilier Rigby was murdered, with Barnes hailing it as a "brilliant" day.

It was edited with graphic images of a man holding a decapitated head, a scene of the Woolwich murder and the Twin Towers, and sent on YouTube the following day.

The second video contained the same edited images and saw Dawson ranting about how British troops would be killed on the streets of London.

Then in a follow-up, Barnes mocked the outpouring of public grief, laughing uncontrollably as he drove past floral tributes with Dawson.

Prosecutor Kate Wilkinson said Dawson sent links of the videos to contacts and friends and received some negative comments back.

One friend said to her: "Can you please stop sending me these links. I'm not interested in it."

Another told Dawson: "Be careful with the YouTube stuff."

Dawson replied: "My husband took this one down. If they got that they would have arrested. Have you watched it - it was really inciting and almost glorifying. LOL."

Dawson called her husband "Babes" in messages between them discussing the videos. In one, she told Barnes: "Babes, someone has reported the laughing video. It has been removed."

Barnes, who knew one of the murderers, Michael Adebowale, also posted on Facebook the offer of a reward for avenging the rape of an Iraqi woman. None of his 500 friends replied.

The post on June 12 2013 stated: ''Any1 who kills an invading soldier in Muslim land I will give them a Vauxhall Astra 3door and money (French British American any kaffir soldier take ur pick).''

Michael Adebolajo, 29, was given a whole-life term and Adebowale, 22, was sentenced to life with a minimum term of 45 years at a hearing last month after being found guilty of Fusilier Rigby's murder.

The British Muslim converts ran the soldier down in a car before hacking him to death with a meat cleaver and knives in a frenzied attack. They dumped his body in the middle of the road near Woolwich Barracks.

Dawson has no previous convictions, apart from a charge of witness intimidation that she has admitted and is awaiting sentence for, the court was told.

But Barnes has a string of convictions for using threatening words or behaviour, and one for assault on a security guard at a mosque. He also has a five-year anti-social behaviour order (Asbo) for taking part in vigilante patrols of east London promoting Sharia law, the court was told.

Mitigating for Barnes, Naeem Mian told the court: "There are no ifs, no buts, no maybes, Mr Barnes makes it absolutely clear that these are idiotic acts borne out of breathtaking stupidity."

He said his client was vulnerable to coming under bad influences, having been taken into care at the age of eight and prevented from attending his mother's funeral after she died in custody.

Dawson's lawyer Susan Meek said her client, who had been studying at university, also came under the influence of others and her dreams of becoming a teacher were now in tatters.

She said: "Over the last nine months, her faith and dress has been put under national and international limelight and it has caused her to reflect deeply about her belief and the way she lives her life and her religion.

"There is an understanding from her all she wants now is to live a life quietly, legally, as a wife to her husband and have a family."

The judge, who is Recorder of London, sentenced Barnes to 26 months in jail for each of the three counts relating to the YouTube videos.

Mr Barker said the charge of inciting murder was more serious because it "encouraged others to carry on the war against the West" and kill soldiers.

For this, he handed Barnes five years and four months' imprisonment, all to run concurrently.

Dawson was sentenced to 20 months' imprisonment for each of the first three charges, to run concurrently.

Mr Barker told the couple: "Freedom of speech has long been jealously regarded by the law but with that freedom comes respect and responsibility."

Mari Reid, of the Crown Prosecution Service's Counter Terrorism Division, said afterwards: "While the whole country was unified in grief and horror in the wake of Fusilier Lee Rigby's death last year, Royal Barnes and his wife sought to take advantage of the situation to promote their extremist views.

"Royal Barnes went further, using the savage attack on Fusilier Rigby to encourage others, via Facebook, to murder British, French and American soldiers.

"These were not throwaway comments from a thoughtless individual, but the hardened beliefs of an extremist.

"We pride ourselves in Britain on allowing the right to free speech to flourish. But the vile views posted online by Royal Barnes and Rebekah Dawson justified and glorified terrorist attacks, and tried to foster hatred in our communities."

Temporary Commander Duncan Ball, head of the Counter Terrorism Command (SO15), said: "Disseminating violent extremist material and encouraging others to carry out acts of terrorism are serious offences and I hope today's sentences send out a clear message that we will arrest and prosecute those responsible."

Comments

[deleted]
10:06am Fri 14 Mar 14

[deleted]

If these pieces of sh1te are married how come she ain't proud enough to take the scum's surname?
Why was this thing allowed to remain veiled in a court hearing? Is that so that it faces no repercussions from the public when it gets let off with community service? Which you can bet your last pound, is all thisjustice system will no doubt hand out to the pair of them.sarfflondonbird

If these pieces of sh1te are married how come she ain't proud enough to take the scum's surname?
Why was this thing allowed to remain veiled in a court hearing? Is that so that it faces no repercussions from the public when it gets let off with community service? Which you can bet your last pound, is all thisjustice system will no doubt hand out to the pair of them.

Score: 23

chris8210
10:24am Fri 14 Mar 14

hang em

hang emchris8210

hang em

Score: 48

ripnetuk
10:30am Fri 14 Mar 14

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

Whatever happened to free speech ???
I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.
Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.
We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)
As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.
Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.
What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.ripnetuk

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

Score: -86

Gypo.Joe
10:57am Fri 14 Mar 14

ripnetuk you are now definitely a serious contender for the champion negative votes cast this week.

Game on !

You really do have some valid points though.

ripnetuk you are now definitely a serious contender for the champion negative votes cast this week.
Game on !
You really do have some valid points though.Gypo.Joe

ripnetuk you are now definitely a serious contender for the champion negative votes cast this week.

Game on !

You really do have some valid points though.

Score: -50

Virtual-Monster
11:04am Fri 14 Mar 14

Glorifying the murder of a member of our armed forces should be treated as treason. Don't worry about sending them down, just send them away to some backwards thinking and facing country where they can spew their hate filled diatribe until their hearts are content.

Glorifying the murder of a member of our armed forces should be treated as treason. Don't worry about sending them down, just send them away to some backwards thinking and facing country where they can spew their hate filled diatribe until their hearts are content.Virtual-Monster

Glorifying the murder of a member of our armed forces should be treated as treason. Don't worry about sending them down, just send them away to some backwards thinking and facing country where they can spew their hate filled diatribe until their hearts are content.

Score: 23

PaulErith
11:29am Fri 14 Mar 14

ripnetuk wrote…

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

Free speech is great but people inciting hatred cannot be allowed. I can only assume therefore that you also don't agree with prosecuting people that are racist? For example, the white woman on a tube coming out with all kinds of racist things. By your argument they're entitled to their view so shouldn't be prosecuted.

[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
Whatever happened to free speech ???
I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.
Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.
We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)
As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.
Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.
What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.[/p][/quote]Free speech is great but people inciting hatred cannot be allowed. I can only assume therefore that you also don't agree with prosecuting people that are racist? For example, the white woman on a tube coming out with all kinds of racist things. By your argument they're entitled to their view so shouldn't be prosecuted.PaulErith

ripnetuk wrote…

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

Free speech is great but people inciting hatred cannot be allowed. I can only assume therefore that you also don't agree with prosecuting people that are racist? For example, the white woman on a tube coming out with all kinds of racist things. By your argument they're entitled to their view so shouldn't be prosecuted.

Score: 71

ripnetuk
11:45am Fri 14 Mar 14

PaulErith wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

Free speech is great but people inciting hatred cannot be allowed. I can only assume therefore that you also don't agree with prosecuting people that are racist? For example, the white woman on a tube coming out with all kinds of racist things. By your argument they're entitled to their view so shouldn't be prosecuted.

That awful woman on the train was attacking an individual . If someone (with whom i would disagree) wrote a racist article, or possessed one, or make a racist you tube video, people have to option to simply not read it or watch it, that's where I think the difference lies IMHO.

If these people had gone up to the family of the dead soldier and laughed at them directly, of course they should have been prosecuted. but thats not the case.

[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
Whatever happened to free speech ???
I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.
Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.
We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)
As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.
Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.
What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.[/p][/quote]Free speech is great but people inciting hatred cannot be allowed. I can only assume therefore that you also don't agree with prosecuting people that are racist? For example, the white woman on a tube coming out with all kinds of racist things. By your argument they're entitled to their view so shouldn't be prosecuted.[/p][/quote]That awful woman on the train was attacking an individual . If someone (with whom i would disagree) wrote a racist article, or possessed one, or make a racist you tube video, people have to option to simply not read it or watch it, that's where I think the difference lies IMHO.
If these people had gone up to the family of the dead soldier and laughed at them directly, of course they should have been prosecuted. but thats not the case.ripnetuk

PaulErith wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

Free speech is great but people inciting hatred cannot be allowed. I can only assume therefore that you also don't agree with prosecuting people that are racist? For example, the white woman on a tube coming out with all kinds of racist things. By your argument they're entitled to their view so shouldn't be prosecuted.

That awful woman on the train was attacking an individual . If someone (with whom i would disagree) wrote a racist article, or possessed one, or make a racist you tube video, people have to option to simply not read it or watch it, that's where I think the difference lies IMHO.

If these people had gone up to the family of the dead soldier and laughed at them directly, of course they should have been prosecuted. but thats not the case.

Score: -47

PaulErith
12:09pm Fri 14 Mar 14

But I think in this day and age, making a video is just as bad as saying it face to face. Videos go viral in no time, so of course the family will end up hearing about it. It's as good as mocking the family to their face. Agree that one can choose not to watch or read something, but often you don't know that you will be offended by it until you have seen it. Also, you either hold these high morals about free speech or you don't! You've changed your stance now by saying that free speech is everyone's right, but not if you say it in front of or to someone that might be offended.

But I think in this day and age, making a video is just as bad as saying it face to face. Videos go viral in no time, so of course the family will end up hearing about it. It's as good as mocking the family to their face. Agree that one can choose not to watch or read something, but often you don't know that you will be offended by it until you have seen it. Also, you either hold these high morals about free speech or you don't! You've changed your stance now by saying that free speech is everyone's right, but not if you say it in front of or to someone that might be offended.PaulErith

But I think in this day and age, making a video is just as bad as saying it face to face. Videos go viral in no time, so of course the family will end up hearing about it. It's as good as mocking the family to their face. Agree that one can choose not to watch or read something, but often you don't know that you will be offended by it until you have seen it. Also, you either hold these high morals about free speech or you don't! You've changed your stance now by saying that free speech is everyone's right, but not if you say it in front of or to someone that might be offended.

Score: 35

[deleted]
12:09pm Fri 14 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
Whatever happened to free speech ???
I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.
Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.
We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)
As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.
Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.
What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.[/p][/quote]What a complete **** you are!!!!!kentlad

ripnetuk wrote…

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

What a complete **** you are!!!!!

Score: 14

[deleted]
12:12pm Fri 14 Mar 14

[deleted]

@PaulErith - I havent changed by stance. I agree with (almost) total free speech, but i dont agree with verbally abusing people
@KentLad - im afraid i find myself outwitted by you and cannot construct a suitable reply to your eloquent and persuasive comment. Have you considered becoming a journalist ?ripnetuk

@PaulErith - I havent changed by stance. I agree with (almost) total free speech, but i dont agree with verbally abusing people

@KentLad - im afraid i find myself outwitted by you and cannot construct a suitable reply to your eloquent and persuasive comment. Have you considered becoming a journalist ?

Score: -5

[deleted]
12:37pm Fri 14 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
@PaulErith - I havent changed by stance. I agree with (almost) total free speech, but i dont agree with verbally abusing people
@KentLad - im afraid i find myself outwitted by you and cannot construct a suitable reply to your eloquent and persuasive comment. Have you considered becoming a journalist ?[/p][/quote]I guess it's where one draws the line and what one considers to be verbal abuse. In my opinion, there's not a massive difference between saying something to someone's face, and posting a video out there for all to see that says the same thing. It can still be verbal abuse, just through a different channel.PaulErith

ripnetuk wrote…

@PaulErith - I havent changed by stance. I agree with (almost) total free speech, but i dont agree with verbally abusing people

@KentLad - im afraid i find myself outwitted by you and cannot construct a suitable reply to your eloquent and persuasive comment. Have you considered becoming a journalist ?

I guess it's where one draws the line and what one considers to be verbal abuse. In my opinion, there's not a massive difference between saying something to someone's face, and posting a video out there for all to see that says the same thing. It can still be verbal abuse, just through a different channel.

Score: 12

[deleted]
12:40pm Fri 14 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
@PaulErith - I havent changed by stance. I agree with (almost) total free speech, but i dont agree with verbally abusing people
@KentLad - im afraid i find myself outwitted by you and cannot construct a suitable reply to your eloquent and persuasive comment. Have you considered becoming a journalist ?[/p][/quote]I guess it's where one draws the line and what one considers to be verbal abuse. In my opinion, there's not a massive difference between saying something to someone's face, and posting a video out there for all to see that says the same thing. It can still be verbal abuse, just through a different channel.[/p][/quote]I see what your saying, but in that case we had best ban all forms of nudity for the media, because it offends some people.
We have to remove BNP political broadcasts because they offend me..
We have to remove all religious movies from YouTube because they all offend at least someone etc etc.
I think the line is between directly personally targeting someone [evil train woman] and publishing something offensive that someone might see. [these guys]ripnetuk

PaulErith wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

@PaulErith - I havent changed by stance. I agree with (almost) total free speech, but i dont agree with verbally abusing people

@KentLad - im afraid i find myself outwitted by you and cannot construct a suitable reply to your eloquent and persuasive comment. Have you considered becoming a journalist ?

I guess it's where one draws the line and what one considers to be verbal abuse. In my opinion, there's not a massive difference between saying something to someone's face, and posting a video out there for all to see that says the same thing. It can still be verbal abuse, just through a different channel.

I see what your saying, but in that case we had best ban all forms of nudity for the media, because it offends some people.

We have to remove BNP political broadcasts because they offend me..

We have to remove all religious movies from YouTube because they all offend at least someone etc etc.

I think the line is between directly personally targeting someone [evil train woman] and publishing something offensive that someone might see. [these guys]

Score: -5

[deleted]
4:47pm Fri 14 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
Whatever happened to free speech ???
I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.
Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.
We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)
As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.
Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.
What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.[/p][/quote]Free speech is great but people inciting hatred cannot be allowed. I can only assume therefore that you also don't agree with prosecuting people that are racist? For example, the white woman on a tube coming out with all kinds of racist things. By your argument they're entitled to their view so shouldn't be prosecuted.[/p][/quote]That awful woman on the train was attacking an individual . If someone (with whom i would disagree) wrote a racist article, or possessed one, or make a racist you tube video, people have to option to simply not read it or watch it, that's where I think the difference lies IMHO.
If these people had gone up to the family of the dead soldier and laughed at them directly, of course they should have been prosecuted. but thats not the case.[/p][/quote]A bit two faced aren't we? Are you for real? And free speech is no more it would seem.sarfflondonbird

ripnetuk wrote…

PaulErith wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

Free speech is great but people inciting hatred cannot be allowed. I can only assume therefore that you also don't agree with prosecuting people that are racist? For example, the white woman on a tube coming out with all kinds of racist things. By your argument they're entitled to their view so shouldn't be prosecuted.

That awful woman on the train was attacking an individual . If someone (with whom i would disagree) wrote a racist article, or possessed one, or make a racist you tube video, people have to option to simply not read it or watch it, that's where I think the difference lies IMHO.

If these people had gone up to the family of the dead soldier and laughed at them directly, of course they should have been prosecuted. but thats not the case.

A bit two faced aren't we? Are you for real? And free speech is no more it would seem.

Score: 28

[deleted]
5:07pm Fri 14 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]kentlad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
Whatever happened to free speech ???
I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.
Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.
We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)
As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.
Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.
What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.[/p][/quote]What a complete **** you are!!!!![/p][/quote]Big John ! ( kentlad ) ROFL
Stick to the Beano please.Gypo.Joe

kentlad wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

What a complete **** you are!!!!!

Big John ! ( kentlad ) ROFL

Stick to the Beano please.

Score: -27

Joelo
6:32pm Fri 14 Mar 14

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scumJoelo

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

Score: 42

ripnetuk
7:22pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Joelo wrote…

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.

[quote][p][bold]Joelo[/bold] wrote:
No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum[/p][/quote]If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.ripnetuk

Joelo wrote…

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.

Score: -42

ELVIS83
9:47pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Pure racist scum bags.

Pure racist scum bags.ELVIS83

Pure racist scum bags.

Score: 107

Hatersgonnahate
11:09pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe wrote…

ripnetuk you are now definitely a serious contender for the champion negative votes cast this week.

Game on !

You really do have some valid points though.

I think I could be a contender :-) though - 28 for defending racism is quite good, whilst the UKIP & BNP loving minority bolstered by the NS Daily Mail style of reporting still maintain a delusional belief of achieving majorities in elections it does represent a boring & sad indictment of society.
I really can't see the problem with different cultures coming to our shores, we've (the UK) have been doing it for centuries!

The reported story is cut & dry. A crime was committed mocking a very tragic & emotional crime that resulted in the loss of a young life. Don't insult it by using to bolster attacks against immigration or Islam. His family expressed that most insistently.

[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote:
ripnetuk you are now definitely a serious contender for the champion negative votes cast this week.
Game on !
You really do have some valid points though.[/p][/quote]I think I could be a contender :-) though - 28 for defending racism is quite good, whilst the UKIP & BNP loving minority bolstered by the NS Daily Mail style of reporting still maintain a delusional belief of achieving majorities in elections it does represent a boring & sad indictment of society.
I really can't see the problem with different cultures coming to our shores, we've (the UK) have been doing it for centuries!
The reported story is cut & dry. A crime was committed mocking a very tragic & emotional crime that resulted in the loss of a young life. Don't insult it by using to bolster attacks against immigration or Islam. His family expressed that most insistently.Hatersgonnahate

Gypo.Joe wrote…

ripnetuk you are now definitely a serious contender for the champion negative votes cast this week.

Game on !

You really do have some valid points though.

I think I could be a contender :-) though - 28 for defending racism is quite good, whilst the UKIP & BNP loving minority bolstered by the NS Daily Mail style of reporting still maintain a delusional belief of achieving majorities in elections it does represent a boring & sad indictment of society.
I really can't see the problem with different cultures coming to our shores, we've (the UK) have been doing it for centuries!

The reported story is cut & dry. A crime was committed mocking a very tragic & emotional crime that resulted in the loss of a young life. Don't insult it by using to bolster attacks against immigration or Islam. His family expressed that most insistently.

Score: -76

[deleted]
8:11am Sat 15 Mar 14

[deleted]

you can see why the masses are turning back to the bnp and ukip now no matter what extremists like toilet mouth gypo joe say lolithinksoo

you can see why the masses are turning back to the bnp and ukip now no matter what extremists like toilet mouth gypo joe say lol

Score: 32

reasonable75
9:53am Sat 15 Mar 14

ripnetuk wrote…

PaulErith wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

Free speech is great but people inciting hatred cannot be allowed. I can only assume therefore that you also don't agree with prosecuting people that are racist? For example, the white woman on a tube coming out with all kinds of racist things. By your argument they're entitled to their view so shouldn't be prosecuted.

That awful woman on the train was attacking an individual . If someone (with whom i would disagree) wrote a racist article, or possessed one, or make a racist you tube video, people have to option to simply not read it or watch it, that's where I think the difference lies IMHO.

If these people had gone up to the family of the dead soldier and laughed at them directly, of course they should have been prosecuted. but thats not the case.

So giving an interview on TV would be OK because it's not directly to the family?

Publishing an article in a paper is OK?

Because this is racism against white people it's acceptable

By your logic if I appear on national TV and make racist comments against non-white people that it's acceptable because it's not direct to someone

What constitutes Muslim land? Some extremists class any foreigner as an invader - even tourists

[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
Whatever happened to free speech ???
I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.
Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.
We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)
As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.
Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.
What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.[/p][/quote]Free speech is great but people inciting hatred cannot be allowed. I can only assume therefore that you also don't agree with prosecuting people that are racist? For example, the white woman on a tube coming out with all kinds of racist things. By your argument they're entitled to their view so shouldn't be prosecuted.[/p][/quote]That awful woman on the train was attacking an individual . If someone (with whom i would disagree) wrote a racist article, or possessed one, or make a racist you tube video, people have to option to simply not read it or watch it, that's where I think the difference lies IMHO.
If these people had gone up to the family of the dead soldier and laughed at them directly, of course they should have been prosecuted. but thats not the case.[/p][/quote]So giving an interview on TV would be OK because it's not directly to the family?
Publishing an article in a paper is OK?
Because this is racism against white people it's acceptable
By your logic if I appear on national TV and make racist comments against non-white people that it's acceptable because it's not direct to someone
What constitutes Muslim land? Some extremists class any foreigner as an invader - even touristsreasonable75

ripnetuk wrote…

PaulErith wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

Free speech is great but people inciting hatred cannot be allowed. I can only assume therefore that you also don't agree with prosecuting people that are racist? For example, the white woman on a tube coming out with all kinds of racist things. By your argument they're entitled to their view so shouldn't be prosecuted.

That awful woman on the train was attacking an individual . If someone (with whom i would disagree) wrote a racist article, or possessed one, or make a racist you tube video, people have to option to simply not read it or watch it, that's where I think the difference lies IMHO.

If these people had gone up to the family of the dead soldier and laughed at them directly, of course they should have been prosecuted. but thats not the case.

So giving an interview on TV would be OK because it's not directly to the family?

Publishing an article in a paper is OK?

Because this is racism against white people it's acceptable

By your logic if I appear on national TV and make racist comments against non-white people that it's acceptable because it's not direct to someone

What constitutes Muslim land? Some extremists class any foreigner as an invader - even tourists

Score: 95

reasonable75
10:09am Sat 15 Mar 14

ripnetuk wrote…

Joelo wrote…

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.

This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced

[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Joelo[/bold] wrote:
No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum[/p][/quote]If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.[/p][/quote]This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroducedreasonable75

ripnetuk wrote…

Joelo wrote…

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.

This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced

Score: 44

ripnetuk
10:14am Sat 15 Mar 14

reasonable75 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Joelo wrote…

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.

This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced

in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.

[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Joelo[/bold] wrote:
No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum[/p][/quote]If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.[/p][/quote]This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced[/p][/quote]in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.ripnetuk

reasonable75 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Joelo wrote…

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.

This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced

in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.

Score: -50

[deleted]
10:14am Sat 15 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Joelo[/bold] wrote:
No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum[/p][/quote]If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.[/p][/quote]This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced[/p][/quote]in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.ripnetuk

reasonable75 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Joelo wrote…

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.

This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced

in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.

Score: -16

[deleted]
11:02am Sat 15 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]ithinksoo[/bold] wrote:
you can see why the masses are turning back to the bnp and ukip now no matter what extremists like toilet mouth gypo joe say lol[/p][/quote]Look who flopped out this morning like a flaccid penis.
Behave boi.Gypo.Joe

ithinksoo wrote…

you can see why the masses are turning back to the bnp and ukip now no matter what extremists like toilet mouth gypo joe say lol

Look who flopped out this morning like a flaccid penis.

Behave boi.

Score: -17

Marty1979
12:41pm Sat 15 Mar 14

ripnetuk wrote…

reasonable75 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Joelo wrote…

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.

This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced

in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.

By your logic the murderers of Lee Rigby were justified in their actions as he had been an "invader" ?

I wonder why people who think these countries are so great don't go and live there

[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Joelo[/bold] wrote:
No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum[/p][/quote]If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.[/p][/quote]This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced[/p][/quote]in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.[/p][/quote]By your logic the murderers of Lee Rigby were justified in their actions as he had been an "invader" ?
I wonder why people who think these countries are so great don't go and live thereMarty1979

ripnetuk wrote…

reasonable75 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Joelo wrote…

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.

This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced

in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.

By your logic the murderers of Lee Rigby were justified in their actions as he had been an "invader" ?

I wonder why people who think these countries are so great don't go and live there

Score: 85

[deleted]
1:34pm Sat 15 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]ithinksoo[/bold] wrote:
you can see why the masses are turning back to the bnp and ukip now no matter what extremists like toilet mouth gypo joe say lol[/p][/quote]How do you confuse a UKIP voter? Ask them the parties policies for health & education, works every time. When they start quoting immigration just stop them & say '....yes but what about health & education'?. Don't forget to vote this comment down, makes me laugh every time. Don't bother to now research the above & post it, that will only further highlight your insignificant & pointless unachievable aims & inability to understand the simple context of my post.Hatersgonnahate

ithinksoo wrote…

you can see why the masses are turning back to the bnp and ukip now no matter what extremists like toilet mouth gypo joe say lol

How do you confuse a UKIP voter? Ask them the parties policies for health & education, works every time. When they start quoting immigration just stop them & say '....yes but what about health & education'?. Don't forget to vote this comment down, makes me laugh every time. Don't bother to now research the above & post it, that will only further highlight your insignificant & pointless unachievable aims & inability to understand the simple context of my post.

Score: -17

[deleted]
1:45pm Sat 15 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Joelo[/bold] wrote:
No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum[/p][/quote]If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.[/p][/quote]This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced[/p][/quote]in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.[/p][/quote]By your logic the murderers of Lee Rigby were justified in their actions as he had been an "invader" ?
I wonder why people who think these countries are so great don't go and live there[/p][/quote]They don't live there because quite often facing civil war financed by UK & USA corporations supplying them guns & weapons. Could be because of the poverty & hunger due to the western worlds economic sanctions. Then The Sun & Daily Mail print lies numbskulls on here believe. Lost count number of times on Facebook that awful post stating 'like if you think illegal immigrants' shouldn't get benefits' the stupidity of it is if they're illegal they won't be applying for benefits. Again immigrants 60% less likely to claim welfare than white UK born, myth they jump to top of the housing list, they don't get free phones, tv's etc, ceases to amaze me how people believe such myths. Immigrants pay millions more in taxes than claim benefits, get over it.Hatersgonnahate

Marty1979 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

reasonable75 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Joelo wrote…

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.

This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced

in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.

By your logic the murderers of Lee Rigby were justified in their actions as he had been an "invader" ?

I wonder why people who think these countries are so great don't go and live there

They don't live there because quite often facing civil war financed by UK & USA corporations supplying them guns & weapons. Could be because of the poverty & hunger due to the western worlds economic sanctions. Then The Sun & Daily Mail print lies numbskulls on here believe. Lost count number of times on Facebook that awful post stating 'like if you think illegal immigrants' shouldn't get benefits' the stupidity of it is if they're illegal they won't be applying for benefits. Again immigrants 60% less likely to claim welfare than white UK born, myth they jump to top of the housing list, they don't get free phones, tv's etc, ceases to amaze me how people believe such myths. Immigrants pay millions more in taxes than claim benefits, get over it.

Score: -49

[deleted]
2:09pm Sat 15 Mar 14

[deleted]

You say UK & US companies supply guns - just watch TV reports (although I expect you'd claim they were falsified) majority of terrorists / freedom fighters are using AK47 guns. Made in RussiaMarty1979

You say UK & US companies supply guns - just watch TV reports (although I expect you'd claim they were falsified) majority of terrorists / freedom fighters are using AK47 guns. Made in Russia

Score: 50

[deleted]
7:53pm Sat 15 Mar 14

[deleted]

its disgusting and racist that greenwich will and have allowed a memorial for stephen lawrence, but they wont allow a memorial for the late lee rigby, a soldier who put his life on the line for his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice,bet his mum wont be made a dame !!!!
as for freedom of speech ???? are you soft in the head ! this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression, what they done was dam right despicable and disrespectful, had it been a muslims head cut off, their would be a day of remembrance, a ruddy great memorial and even a mosque built to remember their fallen, your gone in the head pal !tattman

its disgusting and racist that greenwich will and have allowed a memorial for stephen lawrence, but they wont allow a memorial for the late lee rigby, a soldier who put his life on the line for his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice,bet his mum wont be made a dame !!!!
as for freedom of speech ???? are you soft in the head ! this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression, what they done was dam right despicable and disrespectful, had it been a muslims head cut off, their would be a day of remembrance, a ruddy great memorial and even a mosque built to remember their fallen, your gone in the head pal !

Score: 52

kevint1972
8:05pm Sat 15 Mar 14

Now put them in general population and let it get around what they're in for.

Now put them in general population and let it get around what they're in for.kevint1972

Now put them in general population and let it get around what they're in for.

Score: 43

[deleted]
8:07pm Sat 15 Mar 14

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[quote][p][bold]tattman[/bold] wrote:
its disgusting and racist that greenwich will and have allowed a memorial for stephen lawrence, but they wont allow a memorial for the late lee rigby, a soldier who put his life on the line for his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice,bet his mum wont be made a dame !!!!
as for freedom of speech ???? are you soft in the head ! this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression, what they done was dam right despicable and disrespectful, had it been a muslims head cut off, their would be a day of remembrance, a ruddy great memorial and even a mosque built to remember their fallen, your gone in the head pal ![/p][/quote]But what's the difference between Stephen Lawrence & Lee Rigby?Marty1979

tattman wrote…

its disgusting and racist that greenwich will and have allowed a memorial for stephen lawrence, but they wont allow a memorial for the late lee rigby, a soldier who put his life on the line for his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice,bet his mum wont be made a dame !!!!
as for freedom of speech ???? are you soft in the head ! this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression, what they done was dam right despicable and disrespectful, had it been a muslims head cut off, their would be a day of remembrance, a ruddy great memorial and even a mosque built to remember their fallen, your gone in the head pal !

But what's the difference between Stephen Lawrence & Lee Rigby?

Score: 41

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8:34pm Sat 15 Mar 14

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She wasnt made a dame because her son got tragically killed. If the headless soldier's mum was to have to campaign for justice, turning the establishment on its head, she might get dameyfied (is that a word???).
Her sons killers have been bought to justice. SL's mum has had to fight, and some of those asshats are still free.
See the difference???ripnetuk

She wasnt made a dame because her son got tragically killed. If the headless soldier's mum was to have to campaign for justice, turning the establishment on its head, she might get dameyfied (is that a word???).

Her sons killers have been bought to justice. SL's mum has had to fight, and some of those asshats are still free.

See the difference???

Score: -41

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8:42pm Sat 15 Mar 14

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[quote][p][bold]Hatersgonnahate[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Joelo[/bold] wrote:
No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum[/p][/quote]If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.[/p][/quote]This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced[/p][/quote]in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.[/p][/quote]By your logic the murderers of Lee Rigby were justified in their actions as he had been an "invader" ?
I wonder why people who think these countries are so great don't go and live there[/p][/quote]They don't live there because quite often facing civil war financed by UK & USA corporations supplying them guns & weapons. Could be because of the poverty & hunger due to the western worlds economic sanctions. Then The Sun & Daily Mail print lies numbskulls on here believe. Lost count number of times on Facebook that awful post stating 'like if you think illegal immigrants' shouldn't get benefits' the stupidity of it is if they're illegal they won't be applying for benefits. Again immigrants 60% less likely to claim welfare than white UK born, myth they jump to top of the housing list, they don't get free phones, tv's etc, ceases to amaze me how people believe such myths. Immigrants pay millions more in taxes than claim benefits, get over it.[/p][/quote]Really?
A House of Lords report said the benefits are negligible:
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/uk_politics/7
322825.stm
Migrationwatch says the average immigrant costs us £3 grand a year.
http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/news/uknews/i
mmigration/10693022/
Immigrants-cost-Brit
ain-3000-a-year-each
-says-report.html
Fact is a minority of rich and skilled immigrants, who would always be allowed in, accounts for most of the money we make from immigrants. The Russian oligarch, the Jordanian banker, the software engineer from California. Most people on low wages take out more than they put in, regardless of where they're from, so it's unlikely someone coming from Poland to stack shelves or do bar work makes a net contribution.
With a properly managed immigration system, we would make more from immigrants than they take out. An open door to poor people ensures we don't.
You don't have to show a passport to access many benefits so it's untrue that illegal immigrants "won't be applying".kevint1972

Hatersgonnahate wrote…

Marty1979 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

reasonable75 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Joelo wrote…

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.

This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced

in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.

By your logic the murderers of Lee Rigby were justified in their actions as he had been an "invader" ?

I wonder why people who think these countries are so great don't go and live there

They don't live there because quite often facing civil war financed by UK & USA corporations supplying them guns & weapons. Could be because of the poverty & hunger due to the western worlds economic sanctions. Then The Sun & Daily Mail print lies numbskulls on here believe. Lost count number of times on Facebook that awful post stating 'like if you think illegal immigrants' shouldn't get benefits' the stupidity of it is if they're illegal they won't be applying for benefits. Again immigrants 60% less likely to claim welfare than white UK born, myth they jump to top of the housing list, they don't get free phones, tv's etc, ceases to amaze me how people believe such myths. Immigrants pay millions more in taxes than claim benefits, get over it.

Fact is a minority of rich and skilled immigrants, who would always be allowed in, accounts for most of the money we make from immigrants. The Russian oligarch, the Jordanian banker, the software engineer from California. Most people on low wages take out more than they put in, regardless of where they're from, so it's unlikely someone coming from Poland to stack shelves or do bar work makes a net contribution.

With a properly managed immigration system, we would make more from immigrants than they take out. An open door to poor people ensures we don't.

You don't have to show a passport to access many benefits so it's untrue that illegal immigrants "won't be applying".

Score: 49

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9:58am Sun 16 Mar 14

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[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tattman[/bold] wrote:
its disgusting and racist that greenwich will and have allowed a memorial for stephen lawrence, but they wont allow a memorial for the late lee rigby, a soldier who put his life on the line for his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice,bet his mum wont be made a dame !!!!
as for freedom of speech ???? are you soft in the head ! this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression, what they done was dam right despicable and disrespectful, had it been a muslims head cut off, their would be a day of remembrance, a ruddy great memorial and even a mosque built to remember their fallen, your gone in the head pal ![/p][/quote]But what's the difference between Stephen Lawrence & Lee Rigby?[/p][/quote]Lee Rigby fought for peace in other lands (well, that was supposed to be the gist of sending our armies to fight other countries wars). All Stephen Lawrence is remembered for is....Nothing great really. Oh, his mother kicking up such a stink every five minutes about how great he would have been had he been alive today. Thing is, the family would be just as Insignificant as any other Black family has she not glorified his murder to deathsarfflondonbird

Marty1979 wrote…

tattman wrote…

its disgusting and racist that greenwich will and have allowed a memorial for stephen lawrence, but they wont allow a memorial for the late lee rigby, a soldier who put his life on the line for his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice,bet his mum wont be made a dame !!!!
as for freedom of speech ???? are you soft in the head ! this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression, what they done was dam right despicable and disrespectful, had it been a muslims head cut off, their would be a day of remembrance, a ruddy great memorial and even a mosque built to remember their fallen, your gone in the head pal !

But what's the difference between Stephen Lawrence & Lee Rigby?

Lee Rigby fought for peace in other lands (well, that was supposed to be the gist of sending our armies to fight other countries wars). All Stephen Lawrence is remembered for is....Nothing great really. Oh, his mother kicking up such a stink every five minutes about how great he would have been had he been alive today. Thing is, the family would be just as Insignificant as any other Black family has she not glorified his murder to death

Score: 38

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10:08am Sun 16 Mar 14

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Just waiting t to see how long last piece added stay s, seeing as some people have a dislike for some home truths! No doubt, I have made yet another racist remark, but when you actually think about it, it would be true. Doreen and family would not even exist in your world if she hadn't kept plugging the kid constantly.sarfflondonbird

Just waiting t to see how long last piece added stay s, seeing as some people have a dislike for some home truths! No doubt, I have made yet another racist remark, but when you actually think about it, it would be true. Doreen and family would not even exist in your world if she hadn't kept plugging the kid constantly.

Score: 57

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10:19am Sun 16 Mar 14

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[quote][p][bold]sarfflondonbird[/bold] wrote:
Just waiting t to see how long last piece added stay s, seeing as some people have a dislike for some home truths! No doubt, I have made yet another racist remark, but when you actually think about it, it would be true. Doreen and family would not even exist in your world if she hadn't kept plugging the kid constantly.[/p][/quote]The real home truth is you are a bigoted moron, and thankfully idiots like you are in the minority and always will be.Gypo.Joe

sarfflondonbird wrote…

Just waiting t to see how long last piece added stay s, seeing as some people have a dislike for some home truths! No doubt, I have made yet another racist remark, but when you actually think about it, it would be true. Doreen and family would not even exist in your world if she hadn't kept plugging the kid constantly.

The real home truth is you are a bigoted moron, and thankfully idiots like you are in the minority and always will be.

Score: -35

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2:42pm Sun 16 Mar 14

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[quote][p][bold]sarfflondonbird[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tattman[/bold] wrote:
its disgusting and racist that greenwich will and have allowed a memorial for stephen lawrence, but they wont allow a memorial for the late lee rigby, a soldier who put his life on the line for his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice,bet his mum wont be made a dame !!!!
as for freedom of speech ???? are you soft in the head ! this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression, what they done was dam right despicable and disrespectful, had it been a muslims head cut off, their would be a day of remembrance, a ruddy great memorial and even a mosque built to remember their fallen, your gone in the head pal ![/p][/quote]But what's the difference between Stephen Lawrence & Lee Rigby?[/p][/quote]Lee Rigby fought for peace in other lands (well, that was supposed to be the gist of sending our armies to fight other countries wars). All Stephen Lawrence is remembered for is....Nothing great really. Oh, his mother kicking up such a stink every five minutes about how great he would have been had he been alive today. Thing is, the family would be just as Insignificant as any other Black family has she not glorified his murder to death[/p][/quote]NEWSFLASH: In a news item about two individuals being jailed for mocking and belittling the murder of an innocent individual, Sarflondonbird has managed to not only mock and belittle another innocent individual who was murdered, but also his family too. Not the brightest spark; especially when you realise these two perpetrators were jailed for this same action. I hope Sarflondonbird likes prison food.Dr. Nick

sarfflondonbird wrote…

Marty1979 wrote…

tattman wrote…

its disgusting and racist that greenwich will and have allowed a memorial for stephen lawrence, but they wont allow a memorial for the late lee rigby, a soldier who put his life on the line for his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice,bet his mum wont be made a dame !!!!
as for freedom of speech ???? are you soft in the head ! this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression, what they done was dam right despicable and disrespectful, had it been a muslims head cut off, their would be a day of remembrance, a ruddy great memorial and even a mosque built to remember their fallen, your gone in the head pal !

But what's the difference between Stephen Lawrence & Lee Rigby?

Lee Rigby fought for peace in other lands (well, that was supposed to be the gist of sending our armies to fight other countries wars). All Stephen Lawrence is remembered for is....Nothing great really. Oh, his mother kicking up such a stink every five minutes about how great he would have been had he been alive today. Thing is, the family would be just as Insignificant as any other Black family has she not glorified his murder to death

NEWSFLASH: In a news item about two individuals being jailed for mocking and belittling the murder of an innocent individual, Sarflondonbird has managed to not only mock and belittle another innocent individual who was murdered, but also his family too. Not the brightest spark; especially when you realise these two perpetrators were jailed for this same action. I hope Sarflondonbird likes prison food.

Score: -25

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3:08pm Sun 16 Mar 14

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Dr Nick these bigoted racist mongrels like sarflondonturd cant see their own hypocrisy.Gypo.Joe

Dr Nick these bigoted racist mongrels like sarflondonturd cant see their own hypocrisy.

Score: -46

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4:02pm Sun 16 Mar 14

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[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote:
Dr Nick these bigoted racist mongrels like sarflondonturd cant see their own hypocrisy.[/p][/quote]Fortunately our legal system can though.Dr. Nick

Gypo.Joe wrote…

Dr Nick these bigoted racist mongrels like sarflondonturd cant see their own hypocrisy.

Fortunately our legal system can though.

Score: -28

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12:26am Mon 17 Mar 14

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[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote:
You say UK & US companies supply guns - just watch TV reports (although I expect you'd claim they were falsified) majority of terrorists / freedom fighters are using AK47 guns. Made in Russia[/p][/quote]I have a phone, it's component parts are made in China, the USA own the company & I purchased it from a UK store. Quite staggering your lack of economics & how the arms trades work. Cival wars don't just rely on one particular mode of weapon nor is it dependant on it. Where it's made doesn't determine it's wholesaler! I'm not sure what's worse, your ignorance or those that support your comment. Despite the horror & tragedy of the murder of the solider the week that followed an elderly Muslim was attacked and killed whilst returning from prayer. It received minimal coverage but was equally a loss of a life, a father who never returned home. Neither deserved to die in such hateful circumstances. Both were fuelled by extreme views & the later in revenge. Yet one murder incites intense xenophobia & the other ignored! What's so sad & tragic is one life is considered more previous than the other & equally depressing is the number of negative votes this will receive. What a blessed nation we live in!Hatersgonnahate

Marty1979 wrote…

You say UK & US companies supply guns - just watch TV reports (although I expect you'd claim they were falsified) majority of terrorists / freedom fighters are using AK47 guns. Made in Russia

I have a phone, it's component parts are made in China, the USA own the company & I purchased it from a UK store. Quite staggering your lack of economics & how the arms trades work. Cival wars don't just rely on one particular mode of weapon nor is it dependant on it. Where it's made doesn't determine it's wholesaler! I'm not sure what's worse, your ignorance or those that support your comment. Despite the horror & tragedy of the murder of the solider the week that followed an elderly Muslim was attacked and killed whilst returning from prayer. It received minimal coverage but was equally a loss of a life, a father who never returned home. Neither deserved to die in such hateful circumstances. Both were fuelled by extreme views & the later in revenge. Yet one murder incites intense xenophobia & the other ignored! What's so sad & tragic is one life is considered more previous than the other & equally depressing is the number of negative votes this will receive. What a blessed nation we live in!

Score: -22

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12:28am Mon 17 Mar 14

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[quote][p][bold]tattman[/bold] wrote:
its disgusting and racist that greenwich will and have allowed a memorial for stephen lawrence, but they wont allow a memorial for the late lee rigby, a soldier who put his life on the line for his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice,bet his mum wont be made a dame !!!!
as for freedom of speech ???? are you soft in the head ! this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression, what they done was dam right despicable and disrespectful, had it been a muslims head cut off, their would be a day of remembrance, a ruddy great memorial and even a mosque built to remember their fallen, your gone in the head pal ![/p][/quote]Racist! How?Hatersgonnahate

tattman wrote…

its disgusting and racist that greenwich will and have allowed a memorial for stephen lawrence, but they wont allow a memorial for the late lee rigby, a soldier who put his life on the line for his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice,bet his mum wont be made a dame !!!!
as for freedom of speech ???? are you soft in the head ! this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression, what they done was dam right despicable and disrespectful, had it been a muslims head cut off, their would be a day of remembrance, a ruddy great memorial and even a mosque built to remember their fallen, your gone in the head pal !

Racist! How?

Score: -26

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12:40am Mon 17 Mar 14

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[quote][p][bold]Dr. Nick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sarfflondonbird[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tattman[/bold] wrote:
its disgusting and racist that greenwich will and have allowed a memorial for stephen lawrence, but they wont allow a memorial for the late lee rigby, a soldier who put his life on the line for his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice,bet his mum wont be made a dame !!!!
as for freedom of speech ???? are you soft in the head ! this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression, what they done was dam right despicable and disrespectful, had it been a muslims head cut off, their would be a day of remembrance, a ruddy great memorial and even a mosque built to remember their fallen, your gone in the head pal ![/p][/quote]But what's the difference between Stephen Lawrence & Lee Rigby?[/p][/quote]Lee Rigby fought for peace in other lands (well, that was supposed to be the gist of sending our armies to fight other countries wars). All Stephen Lawrence is remembered for is....Nothing great really. Oh, his mother kicking up such a stink every five minutes about how great he would have been had he been alive today. Thing is, the family would be just as Insignificant as any other Black family has she not glorified his murder to death[/p][/quote]NEWSFLASH: In a news item about two individuals being jailed for mocking and belittling the murder of an innocent individual, Sarflondonbird has managed to not only mock and belittle another innocent individual who was murdered, but also his family too. Not the brightest spark; especially when you realise these two perpetrators were jailed for this same action. I hope Sarflondonbird likes prison food.[/p][/quote]She receives the praise and coverage deserved for a mothers tireless thirst & quest for justice for her sons murders who escaped justice for over a decade. It's only a matter of time the others are brought to justice. It's well documented & supported the massive incompetence of the police. Quite tragic you'd condemn someone for finding the people who as a pack attacked, rained blows & stabbed a young man on his own. The last words he heard before he died was the most disgusting 'N' word. So sarf...... bigmouth please enlighten your main issue with this? You've an irritating habit of calling black people 'scum' which I've successfully had removed & will continue so. Your incitement to cause hatred is not only being collated but just a matter of time before you get charged. Just saying :-) so suggest you tone it down & delete your account. Members of the public have been arrested for far less than your racist rants & I've equally warned the NS for the same. Give it large as much as you want & the negative votes only highlight the NS right wing worship.Hatersgonnahate

Dr. Nick wrote…

sarfflondonbird wrote…

Marty1979 wrote…

tattman wrote…

its disgusting and racist that greenwich will and have allowed a memorial for stephen lawrence, but they wont allow a memorial for the late lee rigby, a soldier who put his life on the line for his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice,bet his mum wont be made a dame !!!!
as for freedom of speech ???? are you soft in the head ! this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression, what they done was dam right despicable and disrespectful, had it been a muslims head cut off, their would be a day of remembrance, a ruddy great memorial and even a mosque built to remember their fallen, your gone in the head pal !

But what's the difference between Stephen Lawrence & Lee Rigby?

Lee Rigby fought for peace in other lands (well, that was supposed to be the gist of sending our armies to fight other countries wars). All Stephen Lawrence is remembered for is....Nothing great really. Oh, his mother kicking up such a stink every five minutes about how great he would have been had he been alive today. Thing is, the family would be just as Insignificant as any other Black family has she not glorified his murder to death

NEWSFLASH: In a news item about two individuals being jailed for mocking and belittling the murder of an innocent individual, Sarflondonbird has managed to not only mock and belittle another innocent individual who was murdered, but also his family too. Not the brightest spark; especially when you realise these two perpetrators were jailed for this same action. I hope Sarflondonbird likes prison food.

She receives the praise and coverage deserved for a mothers tireless thirst & quest for justice for her sons murders who escaped justice for over a decade. It's only a matter of time the others are brought to justice. It's well documented & supported the massive incompetence of the police. Quite tragic you'd condemn someone for finding the people who as a pack attacked, rained blows & stabbed a young man on his own. The last words he heard before he died was the most disgusting 'N' word. So sarf...... bigmouth please enlighten your main issue with this? You've an irritating habit of calling black people 'scum' which I've successfully had removed & will continue so. Your incitement to cause hatred is not only being collated but just a matter of time before you get charged. Just saying :-) so suggest you tone it down & delete your account. Members of the public have been arrested for far less than your racist rants & I've equally warned the NS for the same. Give it large as much as you want & the negative votes only highlight the NS right wing worship.

Score: -23

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12:44am Mon 17 Mar 14

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[quote][p][bold]Hatersgonnahate[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Dr. Nick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sarfflondonbird[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tattman[/bold] wrote:
its disgusting and racist that greenwich will and have allowed a memorial for stephen lawrence, but they wont allow a memorial for the late lee rigby, a soldier who put his life on the line for his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice,bet his mum wont be made a dame !!!!
as for freedom of speech ???? are you soft in the head ! this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression, what they done was dam right despicable and disrespectful, had it been a muslims head cut off, their would be a day of remembrance, a ruddy great memorial and even a mosque built to remember their fallen, your gone in the head pal ![/p][/quote]But what's the difference between Stephen Lawrence & Lee Rigby?[/p][/quote]Lee Rigby fought for peace in other lands (well, that was supposed to be the gist of sending our armies to fight other countries wars). All Stephen Lawrence is remembered for is....Nothing great really. Oh, his mother kicking up such a stink every five minutes about how great he would have been had he been alive today. Thing is, the family would be just as Insignificant as any other Black family has she not glorified his murder to death[/p][/quote]NEWSFLASH: In a news item about two individuals being jailed for mocking and belittling the murder of an innocent individual, Sarflondonbird has managed to not only mock and belittle another innocent individual who was murdered, but also his family too. Not the brightest spark; especially when you realise these two perpetrators were jailed for this same action. I hope Sarflondonbird likes prison food.[/p][/quote]She receives the praise and coverage deserved for a mothers tireless thirst & quest for justice for her sons murders who escaped justice for over a decade. It's only a matter of time the others are brought to justice. It's well documented & supported the massive incompetence of the police. Quite tragic you'd condemn someone for finding the people who as a pack attacked, rained blows & stabbed a young man on his own. The last words he heard before he died was the most disgusting 'N' word. So sarf...... bigmouth please enlighten your main issue with this? You've an irritating habit of calling black people 'scum' which I've successfully had removed & will continue so. Your incitement to cause hatred is not only being collated but just a matter of time before you get charged. Just saying :-) so suggest you tone it down & delete your account. Members of the public have been arrested for far less than your racist rants & I've equally warned the NS for the same. Give it large as much as you want & the negative votes only highlight the NS right wing worship.[/p][/quote]Dr Nick I'm aware I used you reply to question another post but wanted to include your comments, hopefully it's just a matter of time the culture of hatred on these boards are taken to task both for the individuals & the NS.Hatersgonnahate

Hatersgonnahate wrote…

Dr. Nick wrote…

sarfflondonbird wrote…

Marty1979 wrote…

tattman wrote…

its disgusting and racist that greenwich will and have allowed a memorial for stephen lawrence, but they wont allow a memorial for the late lee rigby, a soldier who put his life on the line for his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice,bet his mum wont be made a dame !!!!
as for freedom of speech ???? are you soft in the head ! this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression, what they done was dam right despicable and disrespectful, had it been a muslims head cut off, their would be a day of remembrance, a ruddy great memorial and even a mosque built to remember their fallen, your gone in the head pal !

But what's the difference between Stephen Lawrence & Lee Rigby?

Lee Rigby fought for peace in other lands (well, that was supposed to be the gist of sending our armies to fight other countries wars). All Stephen Lawrence is remembered for is....Nothing great really. Oh, his mother kicking up such a stink every five minutes about how great he would have been had he been alive today. Thing is, the family would be just as Insignificant as any other Black family has she not glorified his murder to death

NEWSFLASH: In a news item about two individuals being jailed for mocking and belittling the murder of an innocent individual, Sarflondonbird has managed to not only mock and belittle another innocent individual who was murdered, but also his family too. Not the brightest spark; especially when you realise these two perpetrators were jailed for this same action. I hope Sarflondonbird likes prison food.

She receives the praise and coverage deserved for a mothers tireless thirst & quest for justice for her sons murders who escaped justice for over a decade. It's only a matter of time the others are brought to justice. It's well documented & supported the massive incompetence of the police. Quite tragic you'd condemn someone for finding the people who as a pack attacked, rained blows & stabbed a young man on his own. The last words he heard before he died was the most disgusting 'N' word. So sarf...... bigmouth please enlighten your main issue with this? You've an irritating habit of calling black people 'scum' which I've successfully had removed & will continue so. Your incitement to cause hatred is not only being collated but just a matter of time before you get charged. Just saying :-) so suggest you tone it down & delete your account. Members of the public have been arrested for far less than your racist rants & I've equally warned the NS for the same. Give it large as much as you want & the negative votes only highlight the NS right wing worship.

Dr Nick I'm aware I used you reply to question another post but wanted to include your comments, hopefully it's just a matter of time the culture of hatred on these boards are taken to task both for the individuals & the NS.

Score: -25

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12:46am Mon 17 Mar 14

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Would make sense for NS to close these comments & not use the excuse of free speech before further posters continue to make comments quite illegal under the term of speeches of hatred.Hatersgonnahate

Would make sense for NS to close these comments & not use the excuse of free speech before further posters continue to make comments quite illegal under the term of speeches of hatred.

Score: -27

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12:51am Mon 17 Mar 14

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[quote][p][bold]sarfflondonbird[/bold] wrote:
Just waiting t to see how long last piece added stay s, seeing as some people have a dislike for some home truths! No doubt, I have made yet another racist remark, but when you actually think about it, it would be true. Doreen and family would not even exist in your world if she hadn't kept plugging the kid constantly.[/p][/quote]How bizarre you'd sign your own arrest warrant by admitting you made a racist remark!
The contradictory remark you've made is the most disgusting ever, if her son had never been murdered or her murders escaping justice her profile would not be in the domain either.Hatersgonnahate

sarfflondonbird wrote…

Just waiting t to see how long last piece added stay s, seeing as some people have a dislike for some home truths! No doubt, I have made yet another racist remark, but when you actually think about it, it would be true. Doreen and family would not even exist in your world if she hadn't kept plugging the kid constantly.

How bizarre you'd sign your own arrest warrant by admitting you made a racist remark!
The contradictory remark you've made is the most disgusting ever, if her son had never been murdered or her murders escaping justice her profile would not be in the domain either.

Score: -26

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12:58am Mon 17 Mar 14

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[quote][p][bold]kevint1972[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Hatersgonnahate[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Joelo[/bold] wrote:
No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum[/p][/quote]If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.[/p][/quote]This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced[/p][/quote]in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.[/p][/quote]By your logic the murderers of Lee Rigby were justified in their actions as he had been an "invader" ?
I wonder why people who think these countries are so great don't go and live there[/p][/quote]They don't live there because quite often facing civil war financed by UK & USA corporations supplying them guns & weapons. Could be because of the poverty & hunger due to the western worlds economic sanctions. Then The Sun & Daily Mail print lies numbskulls on here believe. Lost count number of times on Facebook that awful post stating 'like if you think illegal immigrants' shouldn't get benefits' the stupidity of it is if they're illegal they won't be applying for benefits. Again immigrants 60% less likely to claim welfare than white UK born, myth they jump to top of the housing list, they don't get free phones, tv's etc, ceases to amaze me how people believe such myths. Immigrants pay millions more in taxes than claim benefits, get over it.[/p][/quote]Really?
A House of Lords report said the benefits are negligible:
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/uk_politics/7
322825.stm
Migrationwatch says the average immigrant costs us £3 grand a year.
http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/news/uknews/i
mmigration/10693022/
Immigrants-cost-Brit
ain-3000-a-year-each
-says-report.html
Fact is a minority of rich and skilled immigrants, who would always be allowed in, accounts for most of the money we make from immigrants. The Russian oligarch, the Jordanian banker, the software engineer from California. Most people on low wages take out more than they put in, regardless of where they're from, so it's unlikely someone coming from Poland to stack shelves or do bar work makes a net contribution.
With a properly managed immigration system, we would make more from immigrants than they take out. An open door to poor people ensures we don't.
You don't have to show a passport to access many benefits so it's untrue that illegal immigrants "won't be applying".[/p][/quote]As soon as you mentioned the incredibly accurate & biased migrant watch, fave quote of the bnp I switched off & sniggered.Hatersgonnahate

kevint1972 wrote…

Hatersgonnahate wrote…

Marty1979 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

reasonable75 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Joelo wrote…

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.

This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced

in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.

By your logic the murderers of Lee Rigby were justified in their actions as he had been an "invader" ?

I wonder why people who think these countries are so great don't go and live there

They don't live there because quite often facing civil war financed by UK & USA corporations supplying them guns & weapons. Could be because of the poverty & hunger due to the western worlds economic sanctions. Then The Sun & Daily Mail print lies numbskulls on here believe. Lost count number of times on Facebook that awful post stating 'like if you think illegal immigrants' shouldn't get benefits' the stupidity of it is if they're illegal they won't be applying for benefits. Again immigrants 60% less likely to claim welfare than white UK born, myth they jump to top of the housing list, they don't get free phones, tv's etc, ceases to amaze me how people believe such myths. Immigrants pay millions more in taxes than claim benefits, get over it.

Really?

A House of Lords report said the benefits are negligible:

http://news.bbc.co.u

k/1/hi/uk_politics/7

322825.stm

Migrationwatch says the average immigrant costs us £3 grand a year.

http://www.telegraph

.co.uk/news/uknews/i

mmigration/10693022/

Immigrants-cost-Brit

ain-3000-a-year-each

-says-report.html

Fact is a minority of rich and skilled immigrants, who would always be allowed in, accounts for most of the money we make from immigrants. The Russian oligarch, the Jordanian banker, the software engineer from California. Most people on low wages take out more than they put in, regardless of where they're from, so it's unlikely someone coming from Poland to stack shelves or do bar work makes a net contribution.

With a properly managed immigration system, we would make more from immigrants than they take out. An open door to poor people ensures we don't.

You don't have to show a passport to access many benefits so it's untrue that illegal immigrants "won't be applying".

As soon as you mentioned the incredibly accurate & biased migrant watch, fave quote of the bnp I switched off & sniggered.

Score: -25

[deleted]
1:00am Mon 17 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]kevint1972[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Hatersgonnahate[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Joelo[/bold] wrote:
No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum[/p][/quote]If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.[/p][/quote]This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced[/p][/quote]in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.[/p][/quote]By your logic the murderers of Lee Rigby were justified in their actions as he had been an "invader" ?
I wonder why people who think these countries are so great don't go and live there[/p][/quote]They don't live there because quite often facing civil war financed by UK & USA corporations supplying them guns & weapons. Could be because of the poverty & hunger due to the western worlds economic sanctions. Then The Sun & Daily Mail print lies numbskulls on here believe. Lost count number of times on Facebook that awful post stating 'like if you think illegal immigrants' shouldn't get benefits' the stupidity of it is if they're illegal they won't be applying for benefits. Again immigrants 60% less likely to claim welfare than white UK born, myth they jump to top of the housing list, they don't get free phones, tv's etc, ceases to amaze me how people believe such myths. Immigrants pay millions more in taxes than claim benefits, get over it.[/p][/quote]Really?
A House of Lords report said the benefits are negligible:
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/uk_politics/7
322825.stm
Migrationwatch says the average immigrant costs us £3 grand a year.
http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/news/uknews/i
mmigration/10693022/
Immigrants-cost-Brit
ain-3000-a-year-each
-says-report.html
Fact is a minority of rich and skilled immigrants, who would always be allowed in, accounts for most of the money we make from immigrants. The Russian oligarch, the Jordanian banker, the software engineer from California. Most people on low wages take out more than they put in, regardless of where they're from, so it's unlikely someone coming from Poland to stack shelves or do bar work makes a net contribution.
With a properly managed immigration system, we would make more from immigrants than they take out. An open door to poor people ensures we don't.
You don't have to show a passport to access many benefits so it's untrue that illegal immigrants "won't be applying".[/p][/quote]Your last point ref passports was the most iggnorant by the way!Hatersgonnahate

kevint1972 wrote…

Hatersgonnahate wrote…

Marty1979 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

reasonable75 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Joelo wrote…

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.

This is not incitement to murder, rather another call for capital punishment to be reintroduced

in which case so was the defendants call to capitally punish aggressive invading soldiers in Muslim lands then.

By your logic the murderers of Lee Rigby were justified in their actions as he had been an "invader" ?

I wonder why people who think these countries are so great don't go and live there

They don't live there because quite often facing civil war financed by UK & USA corporations supplying them guns & weapons. Could be because of the poverty & hunger due to the western worlds economic sanctions. Then The Sun & Daily Mail print lies numbskulls on here believe. Lost count number of times on Facebook that awful post stating 'like if you think illegal immigrants' shouldn't get benefits' the stupidity of it is if they're illegal they won't be applying for benefits. Again immigrants 60% less likely to claim welfare than white UK born, myth they jump to top of the housing list, they don't get free phones, tv's etc, ceases to amaze me how people believe such myths. Immigrants pay millions more in taxes than claim benefits, get over it.

Really?

A House of Lords report said the benefits are negligible:

http://news.bbc.co.u

k/1/hi/uk_politics/7

322825.stm

Migrationwatch says the average immigrant costs us £3 grand a year.

http://www.telegraph

.co.uk/news/uknews/i

mmigration/10693022/

Immigrants-cost-Brit

ain-3000-a-year-each

-says-report.html

Fact is a minority of rich and skilled immigrants, who would always be allowed in, accounts for most of the money we make from immigrants. The Russian oligarch, the Jordanian banker, the software engineer from California. Most people on low wages take out more than they put in, regardless of where they're from, so it's unlikely someone coming from Poland to stack shelves or do bar work makes a net contribution.

With a properly managed immigration system, we would make more from immigrants than they take out. An open door to poor people ensures we don't.

You don't have to show a passport to access many benefits so it's untrue that illegal immigrants "won't be applying".

Your last point ref passports was the most iggnorant by the way!

Score: -30

[deleted]
1:11am Mon 17 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]Dr. Nick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote:
Dr Nick these bigoted racist mongrels like sarflondonturd cant see their own hypocrisy.[/p][/quote]Fortunately our legal system can though.[/p][/quote]I have a nice collection of said persons comments, just a matter of time & foolish that they'd think a screen name can protect them.Hatersgonnahate

Dr. Nick wrote…

Gypo.Joe wrote…

Dr Nick these bigoted racist mongrels like sarflondonturd cant see their own hypocrisy.

Fortunately our legal system can though.

I have a nice collection of said persons comments, just a matter of time & foolish that they'd think a screen name can protect them.

Score: -29

[deleted]
7:46am Mon 17 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]Hatersgonnahate[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Dr. Nick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote:
Dr Nick these bigoted racist mongrels like sarflondonturd cant see their own hypocrisy.[/p][/quote]Fortunately our legal system can though.[/p][/quote]I have a nice collection of said persons comments, just a matter of time & foolish that they'd think a screen name can protect them.[/p][/quote]The proper channels have been used and the authorities are aware of what is happening here - the NS may get a call soon requesting information about a couple of peoples details - as you say, only a matter of time. NS posts are currently being watch, monitored and recorded. As the editor suggested, our duty is to 'report', and not just to the NS - illegal posts are to be reported via the proper channels. Just - a - matter - of - time ....
I personally find it inconceivable how someone can be so stupid as to post such comments under a story about people being jailed for doing the same thing. I feel a Darwin Award should be handed out.Dr. Nick

Hatersgonnahate wrote…

Dr. Nick wrote…

Gypo.Joe wrote…

Dr Nick these bigoted racist mongrels like sarflondonturd cant see their own hypocrisy.

Fortunately our legal system can though.

I have a nice collection of said persons comments, just a matter of time & foolish that they'd think a screen name can protect them.

The proper channels have been used and the authorities are aware of what is happening here - the NS may get a call soon requesting information about a couple of peoples details - as you say, only a matter of time. NS posts are currently being watch, monitored and recorded. As the editor suggested, our duty is to 'report', and not just to the NS - illegal posts are to be reported via the proper channels. Just - a - matter - of - time ....

I personally find it inconceivable how someone can be so stupid as to post such comments under a story about people being jailed for doing the same thing. I feel a Darwin Award should be handed out.

Score: -13

[deleted]
8:44am Mon 17 Mar 14

[deleted]

FOOTNOTE: Regarding the voting on here. It has come to my attention that an certain individual has been manipulating the voting system once posts have been made. It would appear that this individual has been applying multiple votes within short spaces of time. They may be doing this out of mischievous 'fun' with the added affect of winding up a conversation and inciting racial hatred - a point that the more astute amongst us have noted - however this person is now known. A Freedom of Information Request is to be issued to the NS shortly and further steps will be taken. We do know who you are and we are aware of the legality of your actions. Are you?Dr. Nick

FOOTNOTE: Regarding the voting on here. It has come to my attention that an certain individual has been manipulating the voting system once posts have been made. It would appear that this individual has been applying multiple votes within short spaces of time. They may be doing this out of mischievous 'fun' with the added affect of winding up a conversation and inciting racial hatred - a point that the more astute amongst us have noted - however this person is now known. A Freedom of Information Request is to be issued to the NS shortly and further steps will be taken. We do know who you are and we are aware of the legality of your actions. Are you?

Score: 0

[deleted]
8:48am Mon 17 Mar 14

[deleted]

"a" not 'an' plus "effect" not 'affect' ... speed typing - -Dr. Nick

"a" not 'an' plus "effect" not 'affect' ... speed typing - -

Score: 0

[deleted]
9:27am Mon 17 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Joelo[/bold] wrote:
No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum[/p][/quote]If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.[/p][/quote]ripnetuk - you are a complete '****' and lets be fair looking at the thumbs down you have received on here probably best not to bother commenting really as everyone thinks you talk a load of rubbish!!!!kentlad

ripnetuk wrote…

Joelo wrote…

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.

ripnetuk - you are a complete '****' and lets be fair looking at the thumbs down you have received on here probably best not to bother commenting really as everyone thinks you talk a load of rubbish!!!!

Score: 0

[deleted]
9:59am Mon 17 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
She wasnt made a dame because her son got tragically killed. If the headless soldier's mum was to have to campaign for justice, turning the establishment on its head, she might get dameyfied (is that a word???).
Her sons killers have been bought to justice. SL's mum has had to fight, and some of those asshats are still free.
See the difference???[/p][/quote]Another idiot who believes everything they read in the media!!!
p.s. i think these scum bags got what they deserved low lifes!kentlad

ripnetuk wrote…

She wasnt made a dame because her son got tragically killed. If the headless soldier's mum was to have to campaign for justice, turning the establishment on its head, she might get dameyfied (is that a word???).

Her sons killers have been bought to justice. SL's mum has had to fight, and some of those asshats are still free.

See the difference???

Another idiot who believes everything they read in the media!!!

p.s. i think these scum bags got what they deserved low lifes!

Score: 0

[deleted]
9:59am Mon 17 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]kentlad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joelo[/bold] wrote: No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum[/p][/quote]If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.[/p][/quote]ripnetuk - you are a complete '****' and lets be fair looking at the thumbs down you have received on here probably best not to bother commenting really as everyone thinks you talk a load of rubbish!!!![/p][/quote]Because the thumbs voting is an accurate way of seeing others opinions. Oh do wake up.Dr. Nick

kentlad wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Joelo wrote…

No place for these people in my world. Hang them, scum

If they are guilty to incitement to murder aren't you also ? with that comment you just published. suggesting they are murdered. you forgot to offer a reward.

ripnetuk - you are a complete '****' and lets be fair looking at the thumbs down you have received on here probably best not to bother commenting really as everyone thinks you talk a load of rubbish!!!!

Because the thumbs voting is an accurate way of seeing others opinions. Oh do wake up.

Score: -2

[deleted]
9:59am Mon 17 Mar 14

[deleted]

Add kentlad ( or as he like to call himself BIGJOHN ) to the watched list.
Score: -75 ....Joe boi is in the lead.
PS, Happy St Patricks Day Haters and Dr Nick !! ;)
I'd love to buy you both a beer sometime.Gypo.Joe

Add kentlad ( or as he like to call himself BIGJOHN ) to the watched list.

Score: -75 ....Joe boi is in the lead.

PS, Happy St Patricks Day Haters and Dr Nick !! ;)

I'd love to buy you both a beer sometime.

Score: 0

franksutton
11:48am Mon 17 Mar 14

Going back to the actual topic! This pair were convicted under this country's laws (if they chose to live here then the laws do apply to them - as much as some argue they don't).

Prior to their disgusting video they appeared in court, he was charged (and convicted) of assault and harrassment. She was charged, pleaded guilty, and is awaiting sentence for witness intimidation. They only recently converted to Islam - their crime was that Barnes attacked the caretaker at a mosque (someone who had been a Muslim all his life) and Dawson threatened the caretaker for daring to report her husband to the police for assault

Going back to the actual topic! This pair were convicted under this country's laws (if they chose to live here then the laws do apply to them - as much as some argue they don't).
Prior to their disgusting video they appeared in court, he was charged (and convicted) of assault and harrassment. She was charged, pleaded guilty, and is awaiting sentence for witness intimidation. They only recently converted to Islam - their crime was that Barnes attacked the caretaker at a mosque (someone who had been a Muslim all his life) and Dawson threatened the caretaker for daring to report her husband to the police for assault
She actually posted comments:-
'Dat guy frm d mosque dat insulted niqab. Sed dat musa [Royal Barnes] made death threats to him! plz make dua for him dat d truth prevails over this mans bat'. "
then
'I'm gonu beat dat man up' "
Nice couplefranksutton

Going back to the actual topic! This pair were convicted under this country's laws (if they chose to live here then the laws do apply to them - as much as some argue they don't).

Prior to their disgusting video they appeared in court, he was charged (and convicted) of assault and harrassment. She was charged, pleaded guilty, and is awaiting sentence for witness intimidation. They only recently converted to Islam - their crime was that Barnes attacked the caretaker at a mosque (someone who had been a Muslim all his life) and Dawson threatened the caretaker for daring to report her husband to the police for assault

Whatever happened to free speech ??? I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like. Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is. We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed) As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself. Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not. What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

What planet are you on ?

What has foreign policy got to do with murdering an innocent soldier ?

The only treatment for these two scum is to lock them in a room with Lee Rigby's regiment, that would sort them out...............

[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
Whatever happened to free speech ??? I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like. Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is. We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed) As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself. Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not. What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.[/p][/quote]What planet are you on ?
What has foreign policy got to do with murdering an innocent soldier ?
The only treatment for these two scum is to lock them in a room with Lee Rigby's regiment, that would sort them out...............ความจริง

ripnetuk wrote…

Whatever happened to free speech ??? I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like. Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is. We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed) As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself. Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not. What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

What planet are you on ?

What has foreign policy got to do with murdering an innocent soldier ?

The only treatment for these two scum is to lock them in a room with Lee Rigby's regiment, that would sort them out...............

[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote:
I'm still winning -80 and counting.
Gercha you muvers keep 'em coming.[/p][/quote]So what's your record - and is it something to be proud of?reasonable75

Gypo.Joe wrote…

I'm still winning -80 and counting.

Gercha you muvers keep 'em coming.

So what's your record - and is it something to be proud of?

Score: 15

ripnetuk
5:11pm Mon 17 Mar 14

reasonable75 wrote…

Gypo.Joe wrote…

I'm still winning -80 and counting.

Gercha you muvers keep 'em coming.

So what's your record - and is it something to be proud of?

It is something to be proud of when all the positives come from comments like "Hang them", "Let the regiment assault them" and "Send 'em back home" and some of the other idiotic opinions on here (the most racist of which seem to have been removed)

:)

[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote:
I'm still winning -80 and counting.
Gercha you muvers keep 'em coming.[/p][/quote]So what's your record - and is it something to be proud of?[/p][/quote]It is something to be proud of when all the positives come from comments like "Hang them", "Let the regiment assault them" and "Send 'em back home" and some of the other idiotic opinions on here (the most racist of which seem to have been removed)
:)ripnetuk

reasonable75 wrote…

Gypo.Joe wrote…

I'm still winning -80 and counting.

Gercha you muvers keep 'em coming.

So what's your record - and is it something to be proud of?

It is something to be proud of when all the positives come from comments like "Hang them", "Let the regiment assault them" and "Send 'em back home" and some of the other idiotic opinions on here (the most racist of which seem to have been removed)

:)

Score: -21

Dr. Nick
5:43pm Mon 17 Mar 14

ripnetuk wrote…

reasonable75 wrote…

Gypo.Joe wrote…

I'm still winning -80 and counting.

Gercha you muvers keep 'em coming.

So what's your record - and is it something to be proud of?

It is something to be proud of when all the positives come from comments like "Hang them", "Let the regiment assault them" and "Send 'em back home" and some of the other idiotic opinions on here (the most racist of which seem to have been removed)

:)

The racist minority are being watched...

Condoning violence of any kind is sickening, but when it is accompanied by race hate and mockery, it is totally unacceptable and must be dealt with in a strong way. These two have been dealt with by our justice system, as will many more.

[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote:
I'm still winning -80 and counting.
Gercha you muvers keep 'em coming.[/p][/quote]So what's your record - and is it something to be proud of?[/p][/quote]It is something to be proud of when all the positives come from comments like "Hang them", "Let the regiment assault them" and "Send 'em back home" and some of the other idiotic opinions on here (the most racist of which seem to have been removed)
:)[/p][/quote]The racist minority are being watched...
Condoning violence of any kind is sickening, but when it is accompanied by race hate and mockery, it is totally unacceptable and must be dealt with in a strong way. These two have been dealt with by our justice system, as will many more.Dr. Nick

ripnetuk wrote…

reasonable75 wrote…

Gypo.Joe wrote…

I'm still winning -80 and counting.

Gercha you muvers keep 'em coming.

So what's your record - and is it something to be proud of?

It is something to be proud of when all the positives come from comments like "Hang them", "Let the regiment assault them" and "Send 'em back home" and some of the other idiotic opinions on here (the most racist of which seem to have been removed)

:)

The racist minority are being watched...

Condoning violence of any kind is sickening, but when it is accompanied by race hate and mockery, it is totally unacceptable and must be dealt with in a strong way. These two have been dealt with by our justice system, as will many more.

Score: -25

Gypo.Joe
6:32pm Mon 17 Mar 14

reasonable75 wrote…

Gypo.Joe wrote…

I'm still winning -80 and counting.

Gercha you muvers keep 'em coming.

So what's your record - and is it something to be proud of?

-85 now and counting.

Yes I am proud to stand up to the bigoted racist homophobic morons who post on here and the gutless ones that sit there negative voting me and others. Racist bigots and little Englanders with a shoe size larger than their IQ from the BNP-EDL-SEA-EVF etc etc.

THAnk YoU and keep 'em coming.

[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote:
I'm still winning -80 and counting.
Gercha you muvers keep 'em coming.[/p][/quote]So what's your record - and is it something to be proud of?[/p][/quote]-85 now and counting.
Yes I am proud to stand up to the bigoted racist homophobic morons who post on here and the gutless ones that sit there negative voting me and others. Racist bigots and little Englanders with a shoe size larger than their IQ from the BNP-EDL-SEA-EVF etc etc.
THAnk YoU and keep 'em coming.Gypo.Joe

reasonable75 wrote…

Gypo.Joe wrote…

I'm still winning -80 and counting.

Gercha you muvers keep 'em coming.

So what's your record - and is it something to be proud of?

-85 now and counting.

Yes I am proud to stand up to the bigoted racist homophobic morons who post on here and the gutless ones that sit there negative voting me and others. Racist bigots and little Englanders with a shoe size larger than their IQ from the BNP-EDL-SEA-EVF etc etc.

THAnk YoU and keep 'em coming.

Score: -19

Marty1979
8:49pm Mon 17 Mar 14

ripnetuk wrote…

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

You say we were at liberty to defend ourselves against Hilter. But Hitler never invaded Britain (or America) we actually invaded Germany

[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
Whatever happened to free speech ???
I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.
Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.
We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)
As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.
Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.
What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.[/p][/quote]You say we were at liberty to defend ourselves against Hilter. But Hitler never invaded Britain (or America) we actually invaded Germany
Germany didn't even attack America, but Americans bombed then invaded Germany
So how does your argument work?Marty1979

ripnetuk wrote…

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

You say we were at liberty to defend ourselves against Hilter. But Hitler never invaded Britain (or America) we actually invaded Germany

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

You say we were at liberty to defend ourselves against Hilter. But Hitler never invaded Britain (or America) we actually invaded Germany

That wasn't really the main thrust of my argument which simply put was that people in countries we have invaded have the duty and right to kill our soldiers. that's how war works. The 2 guys in the original story (the sick stuff on Facebook ones not the murderers) simply offered a reward for someone to do that.i don't understand how that is incitement to murder.eli5 pls

[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
Whatever happened to free speech ???
I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.
Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.
We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)
As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.
Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.
What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.[/p][/quote]You say we were at liberty to defend ourselves against Hilter. But Hitler never invaded Britain (or America) we actually invaded Germany
Germany didn't even attack America, but Americans bombed then invaded Germany
So how does your argument work?[/p][/quote]That wasn't really the main thrust of my argument which simply put was that people in countries we have invaded have the duty and right to kill our soldiers. that's how war works. The 2 guys in the original story (the sick stuff on Facebook ones not the murderers) simply offered a reward for someone to do that.i don't understand how that is incitement to murder.eli5 plsripnetuk

Marty1979 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

You say we were at liberty to defend ourselves against Hilter. But Hitler never invaded Britain (or America) we actually invaded Germany

That wasn't really the main thrust of my argument which simply put was that people in countries we have invaded have the duty and right to kill our soldiers. that's how war works. The 2 guys in the original story (the sick stuff on Facebook ones not the murderers) simply offered a reward for someone to do that.i don't understand how that is incitement to murder.eli5 pls

Score: -30

[deleted]
9:30am Tue 18 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
Whatever happened to free speech ???
I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.
Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.
We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)
As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.
Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.
What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.[/p][/quote]You say we were at liberty to defend ourselves against Hilter. But Hitler never invaded Britain (or America) we actually invaded Germany
Germany didn't even attack America, but Americans bombed then invaded Germany
So how does your argument work?[/p][/quote]That wasn't really the main thrust of my argument which simply put was that people in countries we have invaded have the duty and right to kill our soldiers. that's how war works. The 2 guys in the original story (the sick stuff on Facebook ones not the murderers) simply offered a reward for someone to do that.i don't understand how that is incitement to murder.eli5 pls[/p][/quote]What a **** you really are.... you are obviously from the same group of people as the accused so do yourself a favour and sod of home!!!!!kentlad

ripnetuk wrote…

Marty1979 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

You say we were at liberty to defend ourselves against Hilter. But Hitler never invaded Britain (or America) we actually invaded Germany

That wasn't really the main thrust of my argument which simply put was that people in countries we have invaded have the duty and right to kill our soldiers. that's how war works. The 2 guys in the original story (the sick stuff on Facebook ones not the murderers) simply offered a reward for someone to do that.i don't understand how that is incitement to murder.eli5 pls

What a **** you really are.... you are obviously from the same group of people as the accused so do yourself a favour and sod of home!!!!!

Score: 10

Gypo.Joe
10:19am Tue 18 Mar 14

Come on now y'all slowing only -87. Keep up the good work we can get to -100 but you have to try harder,

LETS BE 'AVING YAS.

Come on now y'all slowing only -87. Keep up the good work we can get to -100 but you have to try harder,
LETS BE 'AVING YAS.Gypo.Joe

Come on now y'all slowing only -87. Keep up the good work we can get to -100 but you have to try harder,

LETS BE 'AVING YAS.

Score: 10

sarfflondonbird
11:13am Tue 18 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe wrote…

Come on now y'all slowing only -87. Keep up the good work we can get to -100 but you have to try harder,

LETS BE 'AVING YAS.

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote:
Come on now y'all slowing only -87. Keep up the good work we can get to -100 but you have to try harder,
LETS BE 'AVING YAS.[/p][/quote]Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnsarfflondonbird

Gypo.Joe wrote…

Come on now y'all slowing only -87. Keep up the good work we can get to -100 but you have to try harder,

LETS BE 'AVING YAS.

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Score: -138

kentlad
11:20am Tue 18 Mar 14

None of my comments are being posted..... mmmm thanks NS!

None of my comments are being posted..... mmmm thanks NS!kentlad

None of my comments are being posted..... mmmm thanks NS!

Score: 20

Gypo.Joe
11:54am Tue 18 Mar 14

-89 now and I'm saving my vote for later.

Happy days.

-89 now and I'm saving my vote for later.
Happy days.Gypo.Joe

-89 now and I'm saving my vote for later.

Happy days.

Score: 4

Marty1979
2:57pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe wrote…

-89 now and I'm saving my vote for later.

Happy days.

Perhaps everyone should upset GJ by giving him a thumbs up

[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote:
-89 now and I'm saving my vote for later.
Happy days.[/p][/quote]Perhaps everyone should upset GJ by giving him a thumbs upMarty1979

This guy in the pic is one ungly fella i'm surprised he doesnt laugh at himself in the mirror!!!

Got what they deserved!!!

This guy in the pic is one ungly fella i'm surprised he doesnt laugh at himself in the mirror!!!
Got what they deserved!!!kentlad

This guy in the pic is one ungly fella i'm surprised he doesnt laugh at himself in the mirror!!!

Got what they deserved!!!

Score: 53

[deleted]
9:11am Wed 19 Mar 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ripnetuk[/bold] wrote:
Whatever happened to free speech ???
I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.
Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.
We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)
As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.
Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.
What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.[/p][/quote]You say we were at liberty to defend ourselves against Hilter. But Hitler never invaded Britain (or America) we actually invaded Germany
Germany didn't even attack America, but Americans bombed then invaded Germany
So how does your argument work?[/p][/quote]That wasn't really the main thrust of my argument which simply put was that people in countries we have invaded have the duty and right to kill our soldiers. that's how war works. The 2 guys in the original story (the sick stuff on Facebook ones not the murderers) simply offered a reward for someone to do that.i don't understand how that is incitement to murder.eli5 pls[/p][/quote]what an idiot you are.. its actually quite worrying that there are so many people in our society who think the same as you and the above scum bags..... you all moan about how we do things here in the UK yet you choose to come here and stay here, do us all a favour and go home!!!!kentlad

ripnetuk wrote…

Marty1979 wrote…

ripnetuk wrote…

Whatever happened to free speech ???

I think its appalling that this poor couple have had criminal sanctions against them just for expressing an opinion. Glorifying terrorism ??? wtf even if we disagree with their opinions (and most of us do) they should be free to say what they like.

Lets face it, Britain and USA have gone into several sovereign foreign countries and kicked off, killing hundreds and thousands of people, and Blair and Bush haven't been indited yet. Why not? why is dropping huge bombs on cities not mass murder? it is.

We got pretty **** off when Hitler went on a rampage through Europe taking over and killing people. We were perfectly at liberty to defend ourselves. Why not Afghans and Iraqis. Admittedly the concentration camp in Cube is on a FAR smaller scale, and there is no parallel to the genocide. (apart from the sectarian violence which was unleashed)

As for inciting murder, that's ridiculous as well. If you read what they actually said is that they would reward someone who killed an INVADING SOLDIER in THE COUNTRY THATS BEING INVADED. This is commonly known as defending yourself.

Would our government be guilty of inciting murder if we got invaded by the French, and they rewarded people for defending us (ie, paid soldiers). Of course not.

What an illiberal country we have become. Tony Benn must be rolling in his morgue.

You say we were at liberty to defend ourselves against Hilter. But Hitler never invaded Britain (or America) we actually invaded Germany

That wasn't really the main thrust of my argument which simply put was that people in countries we have invaded have the duty and right to kill our soldiers. that's how war works. The 2 guys in the original story (the sick stuff on Facebook ones not the murderers) simply offered a reward for someone to do that.i don't understand how that is incitement to murder.eli5 pls

what an idiot you are.. its actually quite worrying that there are so many people in our society who think the same as you and the above scum bags..... you all moan about how we do things here in the UK yet you choose to come here and stay here, do us all a favour and go home!!!!

Score: 11

Gypo.Joe
4:24pm Wed 19 Mar 14

-93, come on peeps don't let Joe boi down at this late stage of the game.

You know y'all luvs me.

-93, come on peeps don't let Joe boi down at this late stage of the game.
You know y'all luvs me.Gypo.Joe

-93, come on peeps don't let Joe boi down at this late stage of the game.

You know y'all luvs me.

Score: 280

Hatersgonnahate
12:56am Fri 21 Mar 14

reasonable75 wrote…

Gypo.Joe wrote…

I'm still winning -80 and counting.

Gercha you muvers keep 'em coming.

So what's your record - and is it something to be proud of?

Achieving a negative vote of such levels is a strong indication of two things. Foam frothing ukip morans & bnp knuckleheads in between reading page 3 & the sport in the Sun wait for email alerts of new comments & deliberately vote their own comments up under the illusion we care while voting down those that defend racism.
The second reason is because readers of the NS have an extreme right wing ideology of blaming everything wrong with society on minority's.
So who should we blame our woes on, shall we blame it on those that create the problem? No because that would show an ounce of intelligence, let's blame it on those people who don't have a vote, those on minimum wage who have no bearing or influence, must be those peskey immigrants, yes let's blame it on them!

[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote:
I'm still winning -80 and counting.
Gercha you muvers keep 'em coming.[/p][/quote]So what's your record - and is it something to be proud of?[/p][/quote]Achieving a negative vote of such levels is a strong indication of two things. Foam frothing ukip morans & bnp knuckleheads in between reading page 3 & the sport in the Sun wait for email alerts of new comments & deliberately vote their own comments up under the illusion we care while voting down those that defend racism.
The second reason is because readers of the NS have an extreme right wing ideology of blaming everything wrong with society on minority's.
So who should we blame our woes on, shall we blame it on those that create the problem? No because that would show an ounce of intelligence, let's blame it on those people who don't have a vote, those on minimum wage who have no bearing or influence, must be those peskey immigrants, yes let's blame it on them!Hatersgonnahate

reasonable75 wrote…

Gypo.Joe wrote…

I'm still winning -80 and counting.

Gercha you muvers keep 'em coming.

So what's your record - and is it something to be proud of?

Achieving a negative vote of such levels is a strong indication of two things. Foam frothing ukip morans & bnp knuckleheads in between reading page 3 & the sport in the Sun wait for email alerts of new comments & deliberately vote their own comments up under the illusion we care while voting down those that defend racism.
The second reason is because readers of the NS have an extreme right wing ideology of blaming everything wrong with society on minority's.
So who should we blame our woes on, shall we blame it on those that create the problem? No because that would show an ounce of intelligence, let's blame it on those people who don't have a vote, those on minimum wage who have no bearing or influence, must be those peskey immigrants, yes let's blame it on them!

Score: -24

Hatersgonnahate
1:08am Fri 21 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe wrote…

-93, come on peeps don't let Joe boi down at this late stage of the game.

You know y'all luvs me.

What's so very sad is how a vote of 'hang em' gets 35 yet those defending racism get - 80 odd!
So let's break it down, an innocent man gets tragically murdered by other men who have been convicted & have beyond doubt shown to be brainwashed by an ideology the vast majority of the same faith denounce.
Yet a comment that wants a civilised society to allow two persons to be calculatedly & with malice to be hung! Fail to see the difference, no actually I do see a difference but will allow the brain dead bnp loving morons explain.
Should the murderes of a Muslim returning from prayer who was attacked & murdered a week later in revenge be hung?
Should we hang ex-IRA members for their attacks or is it because they have white skin you have no physical markers to spew your verbal vomit against?

[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote:
-93, come on peeps don't let Joe boi down at this late stage of the game.
You know y'all luvs me.[/p][/quote]What's so very sad is how a vote of 'hang em' gets 35 yet those defending racism get - 80 odd!
So let's break it down, an innocent man gets tragically murdered by other men who have been convicted & have beyond doubt shown to be brainwashed by an ideology the vast majority of the same faith denounce.
Yet a comment that wants a civilised society to allow two persons to be calculatedly & with malice to be hung! Fail to see the difference, no actually I do see a difference but will allow the brain dead bnp loving morons explain.
Should the murderes of a Muslim returning from prayer who was attacked & murdered a week later in revenge be hung?
Should we hang ex-IRA members for their attacks or is it because they have white skin you have no physical markers to spew your verbal vomit against?Hatersgonnahate

Gypo.Joe wrote…

-93, come on peeps don't let Joe boi down at this late stage of the game.

You know y'all luvs me.

What's so very sad is how a vote of 'hang em' gets 35 yet those defending racism get - 80 odd!
So let's break it down, an innocent man gets tragically murdered by other men who have been convicted & have beyond doubt shown to be brainwashed by an ideology the vast majority of the same faith denounce.
Yet a comment that wants a civilised society to allow two persons to be calculatedly & with malice to be hung! Fail to see the difference, no actually I do see a difference but will allow the brain dead bnp loving morons explain.
Should the murderes of a Muslim returning from prayer who was attacked & murdered a week later in revenge be hung?
Should we hang ex-IRA members for their attacks or is it because they have white skin you have no physical markers to spew your verbal vomit against?

Score: -18

Hatersgonnahate
1:18am Fri 21 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe wrote…

-93, come on peeps don't let Joe boi down at this late stage of the game.

You know y'all luvs me.

I can only dream of achieving -100 for an anti-racist comment, think
I'm on -83. Odd that the bnp loving clowns fail to comprehend that the more negative comments just confirms our arguments.
My biggest achievement to date is having at least 3-4 comments by someone who has a weird name mimicking a S.London accent ending in bird being removed. How brilliant is that? Don't fight them or feed their bigotry, just get it removed, 'IT' seems very hushed up now thanks to my constant reporting of offensive comments. Let's hope the 'thing' says something in anger & gets arrested.

[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote:
-93, come on peeps don't let Joe boi down at this late stage of the game.
You know y'all luvs me.[/p][/quote]I can only dream of achieving -100 for an anti-racist comment, think
I'm on -83. Odd that the bnp loving clowns fail to comprehend that the more negative comments just confirms our arguments.
My biggest achievement to date is having at least 3-4 comments by someone who has a weird name mimicking a S.London accent ending in bird being removed. How brilliant is that? Don't fight them or feed their bigotry, just get it removed, 'IT' seems very hushed up now thanks to my constant reporting of offensive comments. Let's hope the 'thing' says something in anger & gets arrested.Hatersgonnahate

Gypo.Joe wrote…

-93, come on peeps don't let Joe boi down at this late stage of the game.

You know y'all luvs me.

I can only dream of achieving -100 for an anti-racist comment, think
I'm on -83. Odd that the bnp loving clowns fail to comprehend that the more negative comments just confirms our arguments.
My biggest achievement to date is having at least 3-4 comments by someone who has a weird name mimicking a S.London accent ending in bird being removed. How brilliant is that? Don't fight them or feed their bigotry, just get it removed, 'IT' seems very hushed up now thanks to my constant reporting of offensive comments. Let's hope the 'thing' says something in anger & gets arrested.

Score: -26

Gypo.Joe
10:53am Fri 21 Mar 14

Haters I'm sure the couple of BNP tards who post on here believe we are the same person. We can share the negative votes, how's that for a winning team. We have to include Dr Nick too though.

:)

Haters I'm sure the couple of BNP tards who post on here believe we are the same person. We can share the negative votes, how's that for a winning team. We have to include Dr Nick too though.
:)Gypo.Joe

Haters I'm sure the couple of BNP tards who post on here believe we are the same person. We can share the negative votes, how's that for a winning team. We have to include Dr Nick too though.

:)

Score: 105

Gypo.Joe
7:49pm Sun 23 Mar 14

I'm up and down like a whores draws with this negative vote lark. Last time I looked I was over -100 now back to -99 ( change hands. )

THANk yOu

I'm up and down like a whores draws with this negative vote lark. Last time I looked I was over -100 now back to -99 ( change hands. )
THANk yOuGypo.Joe

I'm up and down like a whores draws with this negative vote lark. Last time I looked I was over -100 now back to -99 ( change hands. )

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