(08-10-2012 04:38 PM)amyb Wrote: Haha! I swear I don't have a 'stache.

It kinda blows my mind sometimes, the way some theists prove all my points about the problems with religion without realizing it.

And I'm very offended when people tell me I'm not allowed to mention being an atheist and I should keep my atheist mouth shut, even when I see harmful things being done because of religion. Everyone worries about "religious feelings," what about my "atheist feelings?" They get hurt all the time!

You do understand that there is something inherently wrong with their thinking.

Religion poisons everything.

Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.

[Sigh] Indeed, it does. I guess there is some consolation in knowing I have logic and reason on my side.

Same person told me there is huge amounts of indisputable evidence proving God's existence. I said I don't doubt that dude interprets things to fit in with his belief system, but it's unconvincing for those outside his belief system. Sometimes it's like talking to a brick wall. Except brick walls never Godwin you. =0D

(08-10-2012 04:58 PM)amyb Wrote: [Sigh] Indeed, it does. I guess there is some consolation in knowing I have logic and reason on my side.

Same person told me there is huge amounts of indisputable evidence proving God's existence. I said I don't doubt that dude interprets things to fit in with his belief system, but it's unconvincing for those outside his belief system. Sometimes it's like talking to a brick wall. Except brick walls never Godwin you. =0D

I never bother to question their deities. I just cut 'em off at their weak little fucking knees. "Your religion promises a postmortem preservation of identity. How's that even imaginable let alone tenable? Gimme any plausible mechanism of action for that, ... come on, any at all? ... [crickets chirping] ... Get the fuck outta my face before I sumo you the fuck outta my face."

N.B. This doesn't work on religions which don't posit a postmortem preservation of identity, but those fuckers never get in my face anyway.

As it was in the beginning is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.
And I will show you something different from either
Your shadow at morning striding behind you
Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.

(09-10-2012 07:52 PM)GirlyMan Wrote: I never bother to question their deities. I just cut 'em off at their weak little fucking knees. "Your religion promises a postmortem preservation of identity. How's that even imaginable let alone tenable? Gimme any plausible mechanism of action for that, ... come on, any at all? ... [crickets chirping] ... Get the fuck outta my face before I sumo you the fuck outta my face."

N.B. This doesn't work on religions which don't posit a postmortem preservation of identity, but those fuckers never get in my face anyway.

Tried that. The problem is their thinking. If they can't think right, you can't reason with them. They just talk about bogus shit like "the body weighs less at death, therefore souls." "If a body weighs less at death," I tell them, "it's because the anal and urinary sphincters loosen. So if the body weighs less at death, therefore poop." Or it could be just loss of moisture, I dunno, but poop is still more believable than souls.

I've tried asking for plausible explanations of preservation of identity, and it's basically like talking to a 2 year old with their fingers in their ears, shouting "lalala I'm not listening." Except it's adults, so it's much harder to forgive... The one was trying to tell me DNA exists, therefore God, and was trying to make fun of evolutionary biology while having no idea whatsoever how natural selection works (this is actually one of my largest peeves).

Basically, they keep telling me they "feel Jesus in their hearts" or whatever, and that this feeling disproves any real life, logical stuff I might say. How the hell are "feelings" proof of anything?

I'd tell them to fuck off but a lot of them are relatives and I am only polite because it would upset relatives I do like, but there's only so much a person can take. So I unfriended all these people who only friended me because I was distantly related. Every single thing they post is about Jesus, anyway. Then they freak out if I post atheists things, because that offends their delicate religious sensibilities, though I've always ignored all the Christian posts.