The most humbling moment of Lance Armstrong’s fall from grace was leaving his foundation, he told Oprah Winfrey in an interview broadcast on Friday.

He stepped down as chairman of the Livestrong Foundation in October and severed all ties in November after he was stripped of his seven Tour de France wins and banned from future competitions for using performance-enhancing drugs. After years of denying doping, he told Oprah in the interview that all seven of his Tour de France wins came under the influence of PEDs.

“None of my kids have said, ‘Dad, you’re out.’ None of my friends have said, ‘Lance, you’re out.’ The foundation is like my sixth child,” he told Winfrey. “To make that decision to step aside, that was big.”

Armstrong was vague on whether he was forced out or left voluntarily, but it was clear the foundation encouraged him to leave, he told Winfrey. “It was the best thing for the organization, but it hurt like hell.”

Winfrey aired 1.5 hours of the interview on Thursday and another hour on Friday. That’s a huge chunk of time, but there are still a lot of unanswered questions. Like a hoarder who only cleans out one room, Armstrong left a lot unexplored.

Will he—should he—pay back the money he cost people that he sued? He said he would apologize to individuals when they are ready to hear it—but why is it up to them for him to apologize? Even the why now question—why confess now after years of denials, one of the biggest questions in advance of the interview—went unanswered.

When asked why now, his answer on Thursday was that he knows now it is too late. It would perhaps be uncharitable to call that a dodge. He was asked again on Friday, and he still didn’t answer directly, instead reframing Oprah’s question: “If you’re asking me, do I want to compete again, the answer is hell yes.”

There were no bombshell admissions. Very little new ground was covered. If the interview was a chance for Armstrong to reintroduce himself as a new and changed man, he both succeeded and failed. He didn’t argue when Oprah called him a bully, a jerk, a narcissist and a sociopath. He seemed heartbroken over the pain he caused his family and friends. But when asked if he was remorseful, his first answer was “uhh,” and he flatly said he is not yet a changed man. More self-aware, perhaps, but not changed. But at least he knows now how bad his behavior was.

Referring to an old interview of himself, he said, “If I had one of my kids act like that, I’d be apoplectic.”

He hinted that he came forward because of his children. While he said stepping down from the foundation was the most humbling moment, it was clear from the interview that confessing to his children was equally difficult. He has five children—a 13-year-old son and twin 11-year-old daughters from a previous marriage and two young children with his current girlfriend.

“When this all really started, I saw my son defending me, and saying, ‘That’s not true. What you’re saying about my dad’s not true. It almost goes to this question of why now. He can’t …” Here Armstrong paused to collect himself. His pale blue eyes misted over in perhaps the most visible display of emotion he has shown outside of the winner’s circle. “I told Luke, I said, ‘Don’t defend me anymore. Don’t.’”