Thats it guys, you can eat what you like it doesn't matter what ratio of protein/carbs/fat you want to eat.

Again, this is your claim. With that, I can eat cheetos and doritos all day (never minding the orange hue my johnson will take) and I will look the same as I would if I ate steak and turkey for the same amount of calories?

Again, this is your claim. With that, I can eat cheetos and doritos all day (never minding the orange hue my johnson will take) and I will look the same as I would if I ate steak and turkey for the same amount of calories?

Yes? Come on. Don't just say "that's correct". Give me proof.

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Nope, but you will lose fat at the same rate.Thats why a balanced diet is important so you get the right nutritional value from varying food sources.

Calories are calories regardless of the source.By the way what would you accept as proof?

Nope, but you will lose fat at the same rate.Thats why a balanced diet is important so you get the right nutritional value from varying food sources.

So, in one statement you say it doesnt matter the ratios, but now you come back and say you have to have a balanced diet. What is a balanced diet? The standard government one? The standard Muscle and Fitness balanced? The vegetarian balanced? The mathmetical balanced/isocaloric?

Eat 500 calories a day less than your maintenance level this equates to 3500 cals a week and you will lose a pound of fat a week (a pound of fat =3500 cals)If you want to lose 2lb its 1000 cals a day deficit, don't go any less (cals) than that or you will start sacrificing muscle.Thats it guys, you can eat what you like it doesn't matter what ratio of protein/carbs/fat you want to eat.

What is moderate carbs to you?

Personally i feel fat loss is too slow unless i cut the carbs low, like around 100g per day. Never tried keto though so can't comment on that.

So, in one statement you say it doesnt matter the ratios, but now you come back and say you have to have a balanced diet.

How is that a contradiction?To lose weight it doesnt matter what combination you chose as long as you restrict calories but its better to eat a balanced diet.I didnt say you "had" to do anything.A balanced diet is what works best for you, its your balance to achieve.

How is that a contradiction?To lose weight it doesnt matter what combination you chose as long as you restrict calories but its better to eat a balanced diet.I didnt say you "had" to do anything.A balanced diet is what works best for you, its your balance to achieve.

Ambiguous balance. Interesting. By that comment you can not argue with OTH's advice of little to no carbs. Its his balance of those compenents thats makes "his" way work best for him and many, many others. You may stop arguing at this point.

Can you agree with these things:

1) He is NOT saying its the best/only, just one of the easiest/fastest2) He is not saying that carbs are evil, just not needed3) He is not saying "your" method doesn't work, just his experience (and that of many others) that it takes longer4) You do not like the low carb approach and thus is the reason for arguing

By that comment you can not argue with OTH's advice of little to no carbs. Its his balance of those compenents thats makes "his" way work best for him and many, many others. You may stop arguing at this point.

And by the same argument my ideal will work for me and many,many others.It does also validate the point in both cases that either my or OTHs personal combination of carbs/protein/fats diet wont be ideal for many,many others as well.

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Can you agree with these things:

1) He is NOT saying its the best/only, just one of the easiest/fastest

It isnt easier or faster just because its all protein, its just the same because its a reduction in calories.

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2) He is not saying that carbs are evil, just not needed

Correct, but he has already admitted he knows nothing of the importance of carbs and their protein sparing qualities.

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3) He is not saying "your" method doesn't work, just his experience (and that of many others) that it takes longer

Its because the initial weight loss when you drop carbs is water, I will say again and again its calorific intake that counts, not what you put in.

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4) You do not like the low carb approach and thus is the reason for arguing

Correct, I don't like the low carb approach and no Im not arguing, he is, but Im not.

Ambiguous balance. Interesting. By that comment you can not argue with OTH's advice of little to no carbs. Its his balance of those compenents thats makes "his" way work best for him and many, many others. You may stop arguing at this point.

Can you agree with these things:

1) He is NOT saying its the best/only, just one of the easiest/fastest2) He is not saying that carbs are evil, just not needed3) He is not saying "your" method doesn't work, just his experience (and that of many others) that it takes longer4) You do not like the low carb approach and thus is the reason for arguing

Eat 500 calories a day less than your maintenance level this equates to 3500 cals a week and you will lose a pound of fat a week (a pound of fat =3500 cals)If you want to lose 2lb its 1000 cals a day deficit, don't go any less (cals) than that or you will start sacrificing muscle.Thats it guys, you can eat what you like it doesn't matter what ratio of protein/carbs/fat you want to eat.

Why is exercise not even factored into your equation? Exercise is a calorie burn, and certainly affects overall calories burned. If a person is reducing their calories by 1000 as you suggest to burn 2lbs a week, and then burning another 2500 calories from exercise, are then saying the difference is also fat loss? Because that isn't likely going to be the case.

1. It isn't easier or faster just because its all protein, its just the same because its a reduction in calories.2. Correct, but he has already admitted he knows nothing of the importance of carbs and their protein sparing qualities.3. Its because the initial weight loss when you drop carbs is water, I will say again and again its calorific intake that counts, not what you put in.4. Correct, I don't like the low carb approach and no Im not arguing, he is, but Im not.Bangaboom