That awkward moment when I just read the wikipedia article on this phenomenon the other night.

Liek...okay, from what I understand, female ejaculation is a hotly debated issue in the medical world. From what I've read, it has been studied at length for centuries, though it wasn't ALWAYS a debate. You see, once upon a time, it was a commonly accepted fact that women could, uh...fire the 'ole squirtgun. HOWEVER, this mainly stemmed from the idea that the way sex and conception worked was that the man's goo swirled around in the woman's goo inside her baby hole and magically that became a baby, somehow.

Now, like I said, there's a lot of medical study that suggests it is f'reals thing and comes from...eh...I forget all the words, but there's some sort of female-prostate theory and there's squeezing and juicing and PACHOO!

But the main reason this seems to be such an argument, from what I understand, is that feminists are split on the issue and the half against the idea of female ejaculation is incredibly loud. Basically, some feminists view the idea of female ejaculation as empowering, while others view it as nothing more than the wet dreams of men that like to think lesbian sex is crazy awesome, and view that as demeaning.

There are also some incredibly influential sexologists that just dismiss it as urinary incontinence for I don't know what reason.

There's more information to that, but this is in Threads that are Dumb and throwing out all that information might make this thread Smart, and who wants that? Anyway, the moral of the story is that wikipedia is a hell of a drug and wikicomas can lead to strange but awkwardly interesting information.

Nitewatchman wrote:That awkward moment when I just read the wikipedia article on this phenomenon the other night.

Liek...okay, from what I understand, female ejaculation is a hotly debated issue in the medical world. From what I've read, it has been studied at length for centuries, though it wasn't ALWAYS a debate. You see, once upon a time, it was a commonly accepted fact that women could, uh...fire the 'ole squirtgun. HOWEVER, this mainly stemmed from the idea that the way sex and conception worked was that the man's goo swirled around in the woman's goo inside her baby hole and magically that became a baby, somehow.

Now, like I said, there's a lot of medical study that suggests it is f'reals thing and comes from...eh...I forget all the words, but there's some sort of female-prostate theory and there's squeezing and juicing and PACHOO!

But the main reason this seems to be such an argument, from what I understand, is that feminists are split on the issue and the half against the idea of female ejaculation is incredibly loud. Basically, some feminists view the idea of female ejaculation as empowering, while others view it as nothing more than the wet dreams of men that like to think lesbian sex is crazy awesome, and view that as demeaning.

There are also some incredibly influential sexologists that just dismiss it as urinary incontinence for I don't know what reason.

There's more information to that, but this is in Threads that are Dumb and throwing out all that information might make this thread Smart, and who wants that? Anyway, the moral of the story is that wikipedia is a hell of a drug and wikicomas can lead to strange but awkwardly interesting information.

Where's Natalya? I bet she knows stuff about this.

..BECAUSE SHE WAS A GENDER STUDIES MAJOR.

There are some feminists who think that missionary position is demeaning.

I guess I haven't encountered thrid-wave then. I have noted two kinds of feminism: the 20's-esque group that wants the same rights as men (which they pretty much already do), and the 60's-style "let's kill all the men and take over the world" group.

GeneralOfDeath wrote:I guess I haven't encountered thrid-wave then. I have noted two kinds of feminism: the 20's-esque group that wants the same rights as men (which they pretty much already do), and the 60's-style "let's kill all the men and take over the world" group.

Yeah, the same kind of "pretty much the same rights" as when we used to give people separate drinking fountains. We're still a long, long way from everybody having the same rights as your average white guy.

Seriously, ever since I realized this my life has been great. I love lording it over all my non-white and non-guy friends when my opinions are taken seriously and theirs aren't, when I can wander around freely at night without a worry in the world about people thinking that gives them the right to snuggle me, going to job interviews and getting judged on my resume rather than my makeup, when the cops decide not to hassle me for ridiculous crap even though I'm standing right there with two dozen handguns laid out on the hood of my car and my non-white pals get cuffed and squadcarred just for standing nearby.

My favorite thing lately: every time I post an opinion on the internet, I like to paste links to my lady friends and point out how a thousand strangers didn't show up to make snuggle threats or make uninvited comments about the relative quality of my tits. Being a white guy is the best.

So yeah, we give everybody else the right to vote and then pretend like that makes it a level playing field. Ha ha! Suckers!

Anyway. Men are treated a hundred times better and get a hundred times the opportunities as women, but a hundred times better than shitty is still kind of shitty, so the "same rights as men" thing mostly ended in the nineties when people realized all the hardcoded masculine roles weren't necessarily that great a standard to aspire to. Now feminism tends to be more about better rights for everybody, not just women, so you get the post-punk riot grrls and lipstick feminists and Xena Warrior Princess and all this po-mo deconstruction of gender and sexual roles. It's not about dreaming to fit into the same little boxes as men anymore, it's about not being forced into little boxes at all.

GeneralOfDeath wrote:I guess I haven't encountered thrid-wave then. I have noted two kinds of feminism: the 20's-esque group that wants the same rights as men (which they pretty much already do), and the 60's-style "let's kill all the men and take over the world" group.

Yeah, the same kind of "pretty much the same rights" as when we used to give people separate drinking fountains. We're still a long, long way from everybody having the same rights as your average white guy.

Seriously, ever since I realized this my life has been great. I love lording it over all my non-white and non-guy friends when my opinions are taken seriously and theirs aren't, when I can wander around freely at night without a worry in the world about people thinking that gives them the right to snuggle me, going to job interviews and getting judged on my resume rather than my makeup, when the cops decide not to hassle me for ridiculous crap even though I'm standing right there with two dozen handguns laid out on the hood of my car and my non-white pals get cuffed and squadcarred just for standing nearby.

My favorite thing lately: every time I post an opinion on the internet, I like to paste links to my lady friends and point out how a thousand strangers didn't show up to make snuggle threats or make uninvited comments about the relative quality of my tits. Being a white guy is the best.

So yeah, we give everybody else the right to vote and then pretend like that makes it a level playing field. Ha ha! Suckers!

Anyway. Men are treated a hundred times better and get a hundred times the opportunities as women, but a hundred times better than shitty is still kind of shitty, so the "same rights as men" thing mostly ended in the nineties when people realized all the hardcoded masculine roles weren't necessarily that great a standard to aspire to. Now feminism tends to be more about better rights for everybody, not just women, so you get the post-punk riot grrls and lipstick feminists and Xena Warrior Princess and all this po-mo deconstruction of gender and sexual roles. It's not about dreaming to fit into the same little boxes as men anymore, it's about not being forced into little boxes at all.