Additionally, please affirm that none of these thousands (OK, I'll humor you: hundreds) of men, not even the ones who refill the mind control chemical tanks, is sufficiently disgruntled to spill the beans.

How was the bombing of the USS Liberty kept secret for thirty or more years, though there were hundreds of witnesses? Threats of loss of job, incarceration or death work well at keeping someone's mouth shut.

There are, at a minimum, thousands of men whose jobs involve installation, repair, general maintenance, refilling, etc etc etc of the tanks, nozzles, electronic control equipment, etc etc etc. I won't insist that you admit that each of these fields have /specialists/ that do only one thing as is the case in the rest of the entirety of the military and commercial jet industry, but the minimum here cannot be denied. .

Why didn't any of the hundreds of doctors engaged in mind control experiments on US military personnel and civilians spill the beans, why was it kept secret till Clinton admitted it on live TV. Why didn't any of the allied prosecutors from the Nuremburg trials come out and admit it was a sham. Hundreds of British children were kidnapped by the Government and sent to childrens homes in Australia where they were sexually abused in the 1950's, why didn't anyone spill the beans till years later. People who work for the Government just don't, if they do they are made out to be a kook or if necessary killed and they know it. Besides that what makes you think they haven't been told its for peoples benefit.

How was the bombing of the USS Liberty kept secret for thirty or more years, though there were hundreds of witnesses? Threats of loss of job, incarceration or death work well at keeping someone's mouth shut.

You're telling me the Liberty survivors kept their mouths shut? The Liberty incident is actually a perfect example of how problematic truths are *actually* suppressed. It's a classic example of the dynamics of high vs. low 'voice' (media) volume, which in turn corresponds to the artificial perception of the prevalence of official attitudes that are in reality quite unpopular. The subject of immigration is one in which the 'cognitive dissonance' is especially noticeable. The 'official' attitude among the public is that support for massive third world immigration is the only moral position, while the reality is that even 'liberal' voters tend to deviate on this issue and surprise everybody.

The USS lIberty survivors most certainly did not keep their mouths shut. They met, they organized, they relentlessly lobbied, they published books and mobilized congressmen. They were even placated in 1996 with a section-A two-page spread distribhuted by the Associated Press. But unlike the other pet topics the tribe sees as benefitial to their interests, they threw the frustrated victims a nominal bone or two and stopped after that single AP spread. As long as the talking heads were not discussing that issue night after night for weeks or months or years, it may as well have never been printed. THAT is how the obfuscation works when we mobilize as best as we can to expose a truth that actually hurts the ruling class (Jews). An irony here is that the same ruling class LOVES to foment dischord and turmoil among the rest of us. They love to see controversy among their subjects. They would LOVE a story to result from one overall-clad grease monkey walking into a Paris media oultet and announcing a bombshell of the magnitude of chemtrail mind control drugs, with details to follow for the right price and a villa in Croatia. Look at Vanunu. He spilled beans of supreme import. It hurt them tremendously. That is wasted diplomatic capital that you cannot put a dollar amount on. 25 years later, their headache from his spill is only just starting to throb. But if you were Schlomo the London Sunday Times hack and Vanunu's sitting in your waiting room, it's better YOU cash in than your 3rd cousin Artie Ziff over at the Telegraph!

Your point fails. They did NOT keep the Liberty attack a secret, they just kept it from rising to widespread awareness, as they had with AIPAC for decades until 2005 and as they have with the Jewish identity of every significant western media mogul -or his content managers- until this very day.

Now, are you going to accept and own the highly problematic, necessary conditions of your silly theory I outlined above, or are you going to take my ignorant axx to school? I sincerely would enjoy it if you could. There is nothing I love more than being wrong; it's depressing to enjoy confidence in one's Weltanschauung when the situation is this bad. And frankly, your model that baselessly presupposes federal government independent foresight (rather than the most inept, fractured and inefficient prostitution of public respources), naturally separate from rule by its allies, the worst demons we could ever conjure in a nightmare or fantasy epic, would comfort and ease my worry.

I mean that. Our situation is so utterly screwed that I'd actually prefer it were the case that some ill-conceived government big brother had plans for us beyond the next week or Mordechai's next order. The alternative, the reality, is that it has no mind or plans or will at all, but is rather the unwitting monstrous robot of a separate entity that wants far worse for us than that we inhale aerosolized pacification drugs as we're led to the slaughter. This monstrous, headless robot stomps in one direction and cannot be stopped dead in its tracks by anybody, but can be swayed, slowly stopped, or redirected with much effort by those with awesome skills and resources. Canada's ADL chief was just this week publicly forced to plead guilty to kiddie porn lest he face distribution charges from fed prosecutors. Canada is a country whose security & intelligence service consciously forwarded a BOMB through air freight to Ernst Zündel's Toronto home from Jewish-funded "anti-racist" cretins. Why is "the Crown" going after this B'nai B'rith demon? Because the government and our enemies are not rightly conceptually consolidated into the silly monolithic entity you guys imagine in place of one micron of educated perception or experience.

I'll be back tomorrow (this) afternoon, and I hope to find an answer to at least one of my earlier questions. Entwhistle? Anyone? Let me have it bros.

Your point fails. They did NOT keep the liberty attack a secret, they just kept it from rising to widespread awareness,

And how do you know they aren't just keeping chemtrails from "rising to widespread public awareness" , how would you know that someone hasn't come forward with information if it hasn't been reported in the media, you wouldn't would you. Just because something isn't reported on CNN doesn't mean it never happened.

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as they had with AIPAC for decades until 2005 and as they have with the Jewish identity of every significant western media mogul -or his content managers- until this very day.

There, you answered your own question, or is it only things that Camberly agrees with that are kept from widespread public awareness and anything else that Camberly doesn't agree with is just the ramblings of idiots.

The truth is you aren't Edward Bernays and you can't convince hundreds of thousands of people that things they see with their own eyes don't exist, no matter how smart you are or think you are. Perhaps if you were a bit smarter you would actually look into the skies now and again and you might just notice the difference between a contrail and a chemtrail.

Why didn't any of the hundreds of doctors engaged in mind control experiments on US military personnel and civilians spill the beans, why was it kept secret till Clinton admitted it on live TV.

Give me references. I'll bet they did.

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Why didn't any of the allied prosecutors from the Nuremburg trials come out and admit it was a sham.

They did. Francis Parker Yockey, for example.

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Hundreds of British children were kidnapped by the Government and sent to childrens homes in Australia where they were sexually abused in the 1950's, why didn't anyone spill the beans till years later.

Give me references. I'll bet they did.

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People who work for the Government just don't, if they do they are made out to be a kook or if necessary killed and they know it. Besides that what makes you think they haven't been told its for peoples benefit.

Whom are we discussing, Entwhistle? The guy over at Seatac who just clocked in five minutes ago for his shift refilling the mind control drug tanks on one of Alaska's 737s?

You guys who propose this idiotic, embarrassing nonsense could at least propose and outline one consistent theory instead of a mere string of odd suspicions. But since you never once had the decency to acknowledge that I /destroyed/ your silly "proof" the last time we discussed this, I don't expect much from you.

Can you do it, Entwhistle? Can you admit that you bowed out of our last "chem"trail discussion despite earlier mocking me from the confident throne of your purported "German government admission," which I later conclusively proved to be the sort of half-assed fraud KOOKS are notorious for swallowing and producing? I'm actually sickened that you have the nerve to sit here vomiting this embarrassing nutcase hor$e**** on our forum after that. If there were any justice, you'd be asked to man up, shut up or LEAVE.

After the internet enabled us to escape the constraints of depiction at the whim of enemy fancy, I am depressed to see that we so easily return to our fringe status. We were so close. We were so much better off when clowns didn't feel welcome any longer.

We'll get it back together. Anybody out there reading this? We'll get it back together. Trust me.

And how do you know they aren't just keeping chemtrails from "rising to widespread public awareness" , how would you know that someone hasn't come forward with information if it hasn't been reported in the media, you wouldn't would you. Just because something isn't reported on CNN doesn't mean it never happened.

You show me one guy who did the work, cleaned the nozzles, etc, and I'll agree it is analogous to the Liberty attack. One guy among the thousands and thousands. No holocaust-stigmatized charge of "anti-Semitism" to intimidate him into a moral trap for doing the right thing or the public for listening as he does. Just one guy with a hell of a bombshell story for the billion ears who LOVE to hear **** like this.

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There, you answered your own question, or is it only things that Cambery agrees with that are kept from widespread public awareness and anything else that Camberly doesn't agree with is just the ramblings of idiots.

My brother is a conscientious anarchist. His supreme maxim is that no human should have any "power" over any other. The stuff he believes in makes no sense at all, whatsoever. But we get along great, and love to debate for hours. He also happens be an accomplished physicist. I could hardly agree with him less. However, his ideas are not /self-evidently/ stupid. Yours are. He isn't a rambling idiot. [...]

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The truth is you aren't Edward Bernays and you can't convince hundreds of thousands of people that things they see with their own eyes don't exist, no matter how smart you are or think you are. Perhaps if you were a bit smarter you would actually look into the skies now and again and you might just notice the difference between a contrail and a chemtrail.

Occam's razor, bro. Answer the !$%*ing questions. In detail.

PS- if you feel compelled to own your error regarding the German government "admission" you rubbed in my face last time, it begins here. You have plenty of time. I'm going to sleep.

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Re: Weatherman: The Military is Spraying Our Skies

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Many of you will believe what you want and I am totally fine with that but just because you stick your head in the sand doesn't mean that it's not happening.

I personally get sick every time "they" kick it into high gear with the spraying and so do many people around me and it's always the same thing, sinus infections, upper respiratory infections and so forth.

There are two different trails that one will see in the skies, contrails and chemtrails. A contrail is completely normal and will dissipate after a short time. A chemtrail spreads out and makes the sky a milky white. Anyway, here is all the proof you need to understand that chemtrails are real and they DO have negative effects on your health.

We had to put up with that awful spraying for more than 20 years and never get used to it. Not only does it make us ill, it seems to now also have a bad effect on some types of trees and other plants.

Usually the sky is nice and blue, then come the planes and spray in a grid pattern, this causes the blue sky to disappear for the rest of the day. Perhaps they attempt to get it to rain, whatever they do, they sure are not interested in telling us what they are up to.

You show me one guy who did the work, cleaned the nozzles,................

To be honest Camberly I am not really interested in wasting time debating debunkers they bore me to tears, its always the same pattern;

"You conspircay theorists are nuts"

"No one in the Government would do that, someone would tell teacher"

"Here is some scientific information from a Government employee that says the Government is good and didn't do it"

"They never told me about it on CNN so it can't be true"

"You are making WN's look stupid for not believing in the Government"

These arguments are all over the web and used agianst Nationalism just as much, you really haven't said anything new, just a more intelectual version of Joe Six Pack or Notakook/John Robinson somewhat similar to Lionaxe.

So the best thing to do is you believe in what you think people would or wouldn't do and I'll believe in what I see happening till someone has some real evidence that I am wrong rather than the same old tiresome text book debunking routine.