In the past, even though I noticed this, I never approached the community for addressing assistance.

I am not sure whether this is a bug or if the bug is just that teh system is missing something.

Here my scenario
I fully recognize that when it comes to large files, FAT32 is not a good answer. I also fully recognize that WinXP et. al. do not understand ext2/ext3/ext4 without add on to the Windows systems. But they do understand, as does Puppy pre-formatted NTFS drives.

So, on my Puppy, I took a new 32GB USB and I deleted its FAT32 and exited GParted. Guess what. I lost the ability to address or recognize the USB. I rebooted thinking there was some mistake (bug) but to my surprise, NOTHING I could do with any on my several running PUP distros would "talk" to the empty USB!

All Windows acknowledged it and allowed me to add multimedia content to the USB in several folders I designed.

So, I took my newly build USB with its multimedia content to my new TV. Not only did it immediately recognize the compressed NTFS USB and the multimedia content, it played them. "Thanks You Android TV"

Question
Does anyone know what I can do gather information for this community to address this shortcoming?

If my Android TV can do it, then my thoughts are that my PUPs are smarter and should be able to, also.

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So, on my Puppy, I took a new 32GB USB and I deleted its FAT32 and exited GParted. Guess what. I lost the ability to address or recognize the USB. I rebooted thinking there was some mistake (bug) but to my surprise, NOTHING I could do with any on my several running PUP distros would "talk" to the empty USB!

Are you saying that you deleted the FAT32 partition but did NOT replace it with anything? It's hardly surprising that Puppy couldn't read it. Why did you not simply reformat the partition as NTFS?

I haven't experienced this problem with NTFS formatted usb drives. It is a long time however since I've used it.

As a side note / idea, perhaps you could format the first 4 gig of a large drive in fat 32, and then the rest as ext2, and include an ext* driver for installing in windows in your fat32 partition... Just a thought, not sure how useful this approach would be.

No Puppy has never had any problem seeing, mounting, reading from or writing to any NTFS partition I've tried to use. That includes an SD memory card I formatted NTFS just to see if it would work. I've never used a compressed NTFS filesystem.

I'm pretty sure your problem is caused by using a compressed NTFS filesystem. Why ask for trouble? If you don't need compression, don't use it.

By the way, Linux sees filesystems, not devices. If you wiped a device but didn't put a filesystem on it, Puppy won't see it.

Yes, I have used FAT32/EXT2/EXT3/EXT4/NTFS and now Compressed NTFS on USBs over the years. This is the first problem of this kind I've run into. I shared in the scenario that I lost the ability to address the drive after partition deletion in GParted.

Yes I deleted the partition. And yes PUPPY(s) would not recognize it even after reboot. Yes, MS recognized, mounted, and allow format of the drive as NTFS.

Yes, my MS Windows LAN machines (plural) can see the media. And YES, my TV saw, mounted, and played the media files I had copied to it.The TV has no problems with any files/folders on the drive. It appears that my LG GoogleTV is an Android.

No, LH64, FATSlacko, and Precise would NOT mount it...even after formatting.

So, if there is some system data/tools that anyone would recommend, I will try to gather more information about this issue with this USB drive.

No, I have NOT tried this with any other USB device(s). But, I am curious of what should I do in either PUP to get more useful information that would yield an explanation.

Hope this provides more insights and understanding of "what to recommend I do", next, to gather useful info.

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I have seen something like this before back when using Ubuntu (dark old days). I thought my flash drive was stuffed, until I took it to work and it was seen by windows. All it took to fix it, was to use the windows "Safely Remove Hardware" tool and it continued to work under linux.

Thanks for all the reviews on the phenomenon I encountered. I had posted to other thread, as well, that I now (f@#king MAGIC) am getting LH64 to recognize the USB (NTFS compressed) without issues...same as MS and the TV.

I have no logical explanation to what happened. And from the assistance of the rest of you, the problem is NOT re-creatable with your USBs. Further, it seems the behavior, even when Microsoft is employed is inconsistent with what I experienced (To create the NTFS compressed I used an old Win2K system) that I was repairing to recognize, format and load the USB stick before discovery that I still could not recognize it in PUPs but capable on the TV in recognition and use.

I'm sorry that I did not know what to collect as evidence of this phenomenon. This was the reason of bringing this to the community for insights.

Now, I can see it, and as one other member is reporting, he cannot get a modern Microsoft version to exhibit expected behavior.

This maybe pointed to something that is inherit in USB vendor chipsets as there could be some mis-alignment in each's understanding, thus we see differing activity when each of us run our tests.

I really feel bad that I could NOT offer the community more insights or assistance on this phenomenon. But, as some are sharing the problems may not be a OS problem, but might be a vendor issue.

Until there is more definitive findings, I'm not sure ...

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