Having now SEEN the MGM Approved version... I am certainly NOT convinced about the timeline!!!!

Neither witness actually said at which point the 9:59 PM applies?

If you take Campos word for his call as soon as he was shot... that STILL leaves lots of time before the main shooting on crowd started. He had to interact with Schuck, and now some woman popping out of her room. More bullets were fired down the hall as witnessed by Schuck after Campos's alleged call alerting the Hotel. I DO NOT believe that only 40 seconds (or less) elapsed before Paddock fired on the crowd!!!

But... as I have said... I dont expect the detailed timeline to be resolved this side of years of Civil Law suits.

Campos's handlers have declared there will be no more press statements.... I don't see how they can do that? And even LVMPD, FBI say they are saying nothing! THAT is NOT a sustainable position. The public has a "right to know" the facts... and if we had proper journalists... they would continue to force the release of proper information.

_________________Do not go gentle into that good night.___________ Rage, rage against the dying of the light

Yeah, I agree with your account, a few posts up, of what all Campos probably went through after being shot - taking much more time than 40 seconds would allow.

I don't understand the lack of information and refusal to release what they can. I know an investigation is going on, but I am wondering if they have asked all the injured, or even people there/witnesses, to not talk? I've only seen one interview via YT of a couple talking with Laura Loomer.

FWIW... A touch of "Conspiracy Theory" (Lite) from our old Charlottesville analyzer.... SonoNewo

Personally....I DO NOT believe "conspiracy theories" about multiple shooters etc.But.... I do believe that confusing details like timeline are BEYOND incompetence. They could be tidied up by releasing evidence such as call logs and CTV video.... but they have not been. I wonder about the MOTIVE of the shooter... as well as the MOTIVE of authorities in hiding/ fudging evidence?

October 1 Las Vegas Shooting: the Official Story Makes No Sense (Part 1 of 3)

IMO, the noses are completely different in the side-by-side pics. Other than that, I just see minor differences, eyebrows and hairline. The fact that he has decided NOT to go on Hannity really bugs me the most. Why not?

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The door open alarm is NOT a problem... it was OPEN while Paddock worked on it... to fit bracket... shut by time Campos got there..... this is NOT rocket science.. and not hard to grasp... unless you are thick!!

Also... there are TWO DOORS... maybe the one opening onto the hallway was the one that showed as OPEN? The other, close to stairs, was jammed closed

He was OK... ish apart from that

_________________Do not go gentle into that good night.___________ Rage, rage against the dying of the light

It was kind of Ellen to gift the GoFundMe account for the victims, $25,000 (same amount she gave Charlottesville couple for their wedding), but I am guessing she makes more than that in a day, on her signature slot machines at the MGM.

EXCLUSIVE: Mandalay Bay owner insisted security guard Jesus Campos appear ONLY on Ellen and not be grilled by TV hardhitters fearing his answers to timeline questions could result in massive lawsuits from victims of the massacre

• Jesus Campos, the Mandalay Bay hotel security guard who first alerted police to the Vegas gunman, appeared on Ellen for his first and only interview Wednesday • MGM, which owns Mandalay Bay, thought Campos might not keep his story straight under the pressure of the TV lights and hard questioning • Campos booked interviews with all the major networks last week before cancelling at the last minute and disappearing • Union boss David Hickey who was helping set up the deal, told DailyMail.com ‘It certainly wasn’t my choice that he should appear on that circus' • Ellen did not press him on the official timeline of the shooting, which has changed three times since the massacre • MGM has disputed the official timeline, which insinuated they may have waited six minutes to call cops • Police later changed the timeline again, saying that Campos immediately called in the shooting as soon as he was injured

Mandalay Bay shooting hero Jesus Campos was pressured into giving his only interview to Ellen DeGeneres because the giant company that owns the Las Vegas casino feared he would spill the beans about the shooting timeline if he was grilled by real journalists, DailyMail.com has learned exclusively.

MGM is worried that families of the 58 people murdered as well as many of the 546 injured in the Mandalay Bay massacre will launch lawsuits potentially worth billions of dollars against the company, sources tell DailyMail.com.

And they thought Campos might not keep his story straight under the pressure of the TV lights and tough questioning.

That is why Campos, 25, appeared on a daytime chat show hosted by a fast-talking, dancing comedienne, rather than take questions from TV hardhitters such as Fox News’ Sean Hannity, NBC News or ABC News.

‘MGM was behind the decision to call off all the interviews and did a deal with Ellen, knowing she would not play hardball on the timeline as long as she had the exclusive,’ a TV insider told DailyMail.com.

Campos had originally agreed to do five interviews, all on Thursday last week, but suddenly went missing, his union boss, who was helping set up the deal, told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview.

David Hickey, president of the Michigan-based International Union, Security Police and Fire Professionals of America, would not confirm that MGM was behind the decision, but said the company certainly influenced Campos.

‘I was in a meeting with MGM’s upper management and they were definitely concerned about how tough someone like Hannity would be on him and they voiced their opinions,’ Hickey said.

He said all sides had agreed parameters for the interviews. ‘Everyone knew he wasn’t to talk about security protocols, staffing or training or give out names of employees.’

But he said the company — that, like most of Vegas’s casino industry, obsessively controls what employees are allowed to say to the media — was pressuring Campos not to give too much away.

‘I thought they were being negative, telling him that someone was going to be tough and how they were worried about his health — it wasn’t the thing he needed to hear four hours before the interviews were going to begin.’

Hickey said he met with the MGM executives at a location in Las Vegas where Campos was staying. They met in the living room but he wanted a word with some of the management team in private so they went into the bedroom.

When they returned, Campos had gone, and Hickey said he hasn’t seen or heard from him since.

The next thing he knew the security official had bailed on the five interviews. Then he learned on Monday that instead of appearing on a news show he would go on Ellen.

A Clark County judge granted a temporary restraining order to prevent MGM Resorts International from destroying any evidence related to the massacre at the Route 91 Harvest music festival.

Lawyers for a California woman who was shot and critically wounded during the Oct. 1 concert filed a lawsuit last week, asking for a judge to stop MGM from destroying video surveillance or any information the casino operator may have related to gunman Stephen Paddock, who authorities have said frequented gambling establishments and fired on the festival crowd from a suite at Mandalay Bay.

District Judge Mark Denton approved the request and scheduled another hearing for Oct. 30.

Other defendants named in the lawsuit are Live Nation Entertainment, the concert host; Slide Fire Solutions, a Texas company that manufactures bump stocks; and Paddock’s estate.

The Mandalay Bay security guard who is being eyed as a key witness in the Las Vegas shooting will receive a subpoena to testify on the timeline and other circumstances surrounding the attack, according to local media.

Jesus Campos will be given the subpoena by an attorney for Rachel Sheppard, a 26-year-old from California who was shot three times in the attack, KSNV reported Monday.

Mandalay Bay says four armed officers were on the 32nd floor as the Las Vegas shooter attacked. Should they have acted?By Tom Jackman November 1

Note: This story has been updated with new information from Las Vegas Sheriff Joe Lombardo, who disputes MGM’s claim that police responded to the 32nd floor immediately.

At least two Las Vegas police officers and two armed private security officers were on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel during the time that Stephen Paddock was firing down into a concert crowd, killing 58 and wounding hundreds, according to a statement from the hotel’s owners, MGM Resorts International. Should those officers have tried to stop the massacre, knowing at least one person was firing a high-powered rifle and they probably had only semiautomatic pistols?

And did they notify anyone of the location of the shooting? Las Vegas Sheriff Joe Lombardo has repeatedly said police didn’t know that a security guard had been shot until four more officers climbed the stairs to the 32nd floor at 10:17 p.m., 12 minutes after the shooting started and two minutes after it ended. The shooting was a month ago today.

The police firearm went off inside the suite sometime after officers made entry, Sheriff Joe Lombardo said. But the round or rounds were not fired in the same room where gunman Stephen Paddock was found dead with what has been described as a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

“It happened, and we’re investigating it, just like we do with any officer-involved use of force,” Lombardo told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. “Nobody was struck.”

It’s unclear what caused the officer, who has not been named, to discharge his weapon.

Lombardo also confirmed Monday that the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay, where the gunman’s corner suite was located, did not have security cameras facing the gunman’s suite or the stairwell door that Paddock had apparently sealed sometime before the shooting. The only cameras on the floor faced the elevators.

This is a nothing, but I'm posting since it's in the news. The hotel has known from day one who (when/why) entered Paddock's room the entire stay. This seems more like a CYA.

January 5, 2017According to a statement released Friday, Stephen Paddock interacted with staff more than 10 times during the course of his stay at the hotel.

“MGM Resorts is focused on supporting the health and welfare of our guests. All MGM Resorts properties follow a health and welfare check operating procedure that stipulates a welfare check be performed after two consecutive days where a Do-Not-Disturb sign has been displayed on the door, and the guest has not interacted in-person or by phone with housekeeping or other hotel staff over the same period. In addition, our staff reserves the right to enter the room if it is deemed appropriate to conduct a welfare check.

“Importantly, as it relates to the terrible tragedy on October 1, there were numerous interactions with Stephen Paddock every day at the resort, including a room service delivery and a call with housekeeping on October 1, all of which were normal in nature. As a result of these interactions, there was no need to conduct a welfare check. Further, Mandalay Bay staff, room service and housekeeping had contact with Paddock or entered his suite more than 10 times over the course of his stay, including the three days leading up to October 1.”

LAS VEGAS - Douglas Haig is the second "person of interest" identified in Metro Police search warrants during the investigation into the Oct. 1 massacre on the Las Vegas Strip.

Metro Police have made it clear there was only one shooter -- Stephen Paddock -- during the shooting at the Route 91 Harvest festival.

CBS News has confirmed Douglas Haig lives in Mesa, Arizona. Haig is an aerospace engineer and specializes in military ammunition, according to his LinkedIn page.

The website for Haig's company, Specialized Military Ammunition LLC, sells tracer and incendiary ammunition. Haig's online website is currently closed indefinitely. Paddock used incendiary ammunition during the shooting that killed 58 people and injured 800. He also tried to buy tracer rounds prior to the shooting.

According to Haig's LinkedIn page, he developed ammunition and weapons for defense contractors such as Northrop Grumman and Boeing. He currently lists himself as a senior engineer at Honeywell Aerospace.

UPDATE: Federal prosecutors in Nevada have charged Douglas Haig with conspiracy to manufacture and sell armor-piercing ammunition. Court records show that a warrant for Haig’s arrest was issued Friday morning by a U.S. magistrate judge in Las Vegas.

CHANDLER, Ariz. — Douglas Haig, the Arizona man who was identified this week as a “person of interest” in the Las Vegas shooting investigation, said Friday that he does not believe the tracer ammunition he sold to gunman Stephen Paddock was used in the massacre.

“You would have seen red streaks coming from the window,” Haig said.

At a news conference Friday at his lawyer’s office, Haig also said Paddock demonstrated no unusual behavior when he came to Haig’s home in Mesa to purchase approximately 720 rounds of tracer ammunition.

“He pulled up, very well-dressed, very well-groomed, very polite, very respectful, told me what he wanted,” Haig said. “I gathered it up, put it in a box, told him what he owed me. He paid me, put it in his car and drove away. At no time did I see anything suspicious or odd or any kind of tell, anything that would set off an alarm.”