The Manchester Bomber is one of Hillary Clinton’s Libyan “Rebels”

Islamic State fighters landed in Libya back in November of 2014, and began work establishing training camps in the Libyan city of Derna before launching a terror offensive which included an attack on a Libyan hotel, attacks on oil field workers, and the execution of 21 Copts in a graphic video which made international headlines.

In early through mid-2015 several extremist jihadist elements in Libya swore allegiance to Bakar al-Baghdadi. A man named Abdelhakim Belhadj took the position as head of ISIS in Libya. Abdelhakim Belhadj was critical in forming “Libya Dawn”, essentially a group of Islamic militia forces (LIFG or Libyan Islamic Fighting Groups) who fought under various banners such as Ansar al-Sharia (al-Qaeda in Libya) and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Today the links emerge between the Manchester bomber, Salman Abedi (22), and these extremist forces within Libya. It appears the bombing attack against the Manchester concert venue was directed and coordinated by the family of Abedi and their close contacts within Libya including his father Ramadan Abedi who was arrested earlier today.

Ismail Abedi, 23, is his older brother. He was arrested in Manchester by British police.

Hashem Abedi, 20, is Salman’s younger brother. He was arrested in Libya earlier today and confessed during interrogation to knowledge of the plot from April.

Ramadan Abedi, is the father of Ismael (23), Salman (22) and Hasem (20). Ramadan was arrested in Libya earlier today.

There were NO bomb-making materials in the house/apartment of the suicide bomber, Salman Abedi. This implies the bomb-maker is still around, possibly in England although most likely he exited the country prior to the terrorist attack.

The bomber, Salman Abedi, returned from visiting Libya only 3 weeks ago.

1,000 British military have been activated in response to the heightened terrorist plot.

There’s an interesting dynamic emerging, a very clear picture. The father Ramadan Abedi belonged to the extremist Islamic elements that was being kept in check by former Dictator Maummar Qaddafi. Ramadan Abedi fled Libya in 1993 to avoid being killed by Qaddafi forces who were pretty good at killing off the domestic terror groups who also worked under the auspices of overthrowing the regime.

In essence, the Abedi family linkage to Libya is directly connected to the radical extremist elements within Eastern Libya that centered near Benghazi. The ideological outlook of the Abedi family aligned with the decision by President Obama, Hillary Clinton and Samantha Power’s to overthrow Qaddafi in 2011.

After Qaddafi’s ouster, Ramadan was able to go back to Libya and join back with his ideological brethren. The plot to kill the people in Manchester came from this jihadist outlook. This is a direct consequence of Obama and Clinton’s Libyan intervention.

Police, in tandem with British soldiers, have carried out several raids since Monday night’s atrocity and so far seven people have been arrested, including Salman’s father and two brothers.

A former Libyan security official Abdel-Basit Haroun said Ramadan, a former airport security worker, was a member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting group in the 1990s. The group had links to Al-Qaeda.

Although the LIFG disbanded, Haroun said the father belongs to the Salafi Jihadi movement, the most extreme sect of Salafism and from which Al-Qaeda and ISIS hail.

Ramadan fled Tripoli in 1993 after Moammar Gadhafi’s security authorities issued an arrest warrant and eventually sought political asylum in Britain.

Haroun said Ramadan, also known as Abu Ismail, had returned to the Libyan capital of Tripoli. A witness said he was handcuffed by armed men this evening who drove him away in two unmarked vehicles.

Salman’s younger brother, Hashem, now 20, who has also been arrested in Libya, had posted comments on ISIS- supporting sites.

The Special Deterrent anti-terror force said Hashim was receiving cash transferred from his brother, Salman. The Libyan security force claimed Hashim told authorities both he and his brother belonged to ISIS.

A spokesman for a local counter-terrorism force said the younger brother had travelled from London to Tripoli on April 16. (read more)

Ob, I have definitely taken notice and totally agree with the posture assumed by Japan with respect to the problem of Islamic violence. The answer lies in the Quran, and in the world’s willingness to believe that when it tells followers to kill or enslave all who will not convert, THEY MEAN IT. As noble as any “Turn the other cheek” morality sounds, it is totally foolish to do so when an entire murder cult has sworn themselves to your demise.

Turn the other cheek only applies to oneself. When it comes to protecting other innocent people from murderous jihadists, especially children like the ones at this concerns, we have a moral obligation to do so. And protecting innocent people means preventing the attacks in the first place. A certain urban legend involving pig’s blood and bullets comes to mind.

I was taught turning the other cheek means we do not seek vengeance. Self defense is also a moral good. But seeking to hurt someone just becuase they have hurt you is not.

The left often conflates vengeance with punishment, and use the “turn the other cheek” remark to prevent us from truly punishing crime. Punishing criminals is necessary for justice and for preserving the peace. If crimes go unpunished, it simply increases leading to more innocent people being hurt. True justice is not about revenge at all.

Yes! Back in ancient times, you used your right hand to clean yourself after going to the toilet. Hence the right hand was soiled and the left hand was clean. When presented with the “other cheek” of your whoever you were slapping you had to use your clean hand and therefore soil yourself in the gesture. Presenting the other cheek in a dare.

Took note of that some time ago. Have noted, also, that Muslim countries are strongly resistant to “diversity.” This doesn’t matter because our political leaders have some (difficult to identify) desire to commit large scale destruction of our way of life and our destruction as individuals, too.

We seem to stand in the way of a coordinated attack by well-funded and well-organized sociopaths who are in a position to not only “think globally”, but the assets to advance their ideas by imposing them, either by guile or by force, on ever larger portions of the inhabited world.

The best motivation for the actions of our political and judicial class I can find is that the folks who caused the Georgia Guidestones to be erected are in possession of more power than previously thought. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

I can’t make the link, not yet, but the flooding of western civilizations and the burial of our culture contributes to the goals written on the Guidstones.

Every expert on terrorism says that this will never end until the “authorities” can garner the cooperation of the so-c alled “moderate” muslim community. I agree, ut not in the way they suggest.

The islamic propagandists of organizations like CAIR have succeeded in convincing the general public that the Quran does not tell its followers to slay nonbelievers. In doing so they have created doubt and guilt in the minds of those who will (eventually) have to stand up to the invaders. That doubt and guilt creates hesitation and weakness, which the murderers use against us.

As long as we tolerate their presence within our borders, we are endangering the freedom and lives of our families.

That we haven’t done so thus far is because we still want to believe that there ARE numerous and influential “moderate Muslims”.

When we stop believing that, there will be no safe place on earth … not even within the caliphate … where Muslims of any conviction will be safe.

(Addressed to any Muslims reading this)
If you TRULY love your families, you will leave ours alone. I don’t want to kill you, your parents, or your beloved children and grandchildren and great grandchildren. I don’t want to wipe your bloodline from the face of the earth. But if you do not stop the radicals from killing MY family, then I will. If you wish to practice your faith in peace, then practice it peacefully. If your intention is to dominate me, I will respond with violence and I will hold nothing back.

It’s your call … but we are nearing the point where the choice will be made for you … and it will be made against you.

My thinking too. After every muslim sponsored “tragedy” someone burns the front or back door to a mosque, or tries to take a hijab off or etc.etc.etc.In 99.9999% of the cases it is a muslim trying to garner sympathy. Of course the detention and admission of guilt by the perm is an afterthought so that the meme continues. We don’t want any hurt feelings now do we?

The West has been transformed into an Orwellian game show with politically correct contestants vying to be blown up by a Jihadi with the most creative bomb. “Islamic Idol” brought to you by Facebook and Amazon, where you can get indoctrinated and buy your bomb making materials online!

He also was sending money to his brother in Libya?
Obviously someone was paying him or he was a criminal or both.
He didn’t take the train (British security is tight at train stations) how did he get there?
I read today that he may have brought the bo#b in from Syria, utter BS.
The bo#b maker has left town probably to Syria or continental Europe.
The family and friends knew, just like Orlando and San Bernardino.
Wonder if his daddy will be at hildabeast next rally up front.
Mom a nuclear scientist come on. Third world degrees are cheap.

They’re not really refugees, they’re killers. And they need to be eliminated as soon as possible. Mr. Ramadog knows that he and his evil spawn are terrorists.
These people need to disappear. I don’t need to know the details, but they need to come up missing forever.

There are no “Christmas and Easter” believers in Islam as there are among those who profess to be Christians.

Not all are actually convinced of the merits of their religion, but they have no choice but to act like they do. They can’t leave that cult except through death. Even if they moved a thousand miles and changed their identity, their speech and their appearance and their habits and food tastes identify them to other Muslims … who are instructed to kill them wherever they are found.

To turn your back on Islam is to put the knife to your own throat.

It’s much worse than with 1st century Jews who, if they pissed off the leaders at the Temple would find themselves reduced to poverty. Those Jews would be dishonored, disgraced and allowed to starve to death … but would be, if they could find a way to do so, permitted to live.

In Islam, they are open in killing those who deviate from the faith … apostates, homosexuals, independent women, women who seek to live as westerners and, to escape complete subjugation to their husbands, seek out western men as mates … all are put in the same basket as being fit only for death.

So it is not surprising that someone who rebelled against Qaddafi would seek asylum in England but remain loyal to this cult of death and teach it to his sons.

Over the past several months, there have been many posts and comments on various sites, including this one, about how something needs to be done about “the leaks”.
I’d like to point out that the DNC no longer has a leak problem.

Would it not be a good way to curb the leaks to the media that whomever was caught supplying unauthorized information and whomever was publishing said information, that they should be charged with sedition and treason and they be given the maximum penalties that those charges carry?

All sources for published material must be named, otherwise it is considered the same as above.

This does not deny the 1st Amendment.

The proliferation of some many leakers and so many anonymous sources is causing great harm to our national security, to the American people, to the apprehension of the criminal element, to the identifying and capturing of terrorist cells here in the U.S. and around the world. It is, in short, aiding and abetting the terrorists and allowing them to continue their operations.

It’s called *blank* (rats) there is a word for it. Infiltration and immigration is Demographic Jihad. They have a word for it, as they do for all their anti-human acts and concepts.

The Syrian war was on for how long before a massive flow of mostly conscription-dodging military age males flooded Europe? Two, three, four years? I forget. But I do know it was not spontaneous or a natural movement of peoples that had leave to go to camps in Saudi Arabia but not one soul went there.

This was a coordinated assault on Europe. What the Gauls and the Poles gave Europe, their continued existence, is being thrown away by the false prophets of PC and Catholicism Lite. (Looking at you, Francis)

Remember the “spontaneous” “murder the drawers of Mudhoman” “protests?” Yeah, me neither. They got their murder on a full year after the cartoons were published. A few Imams doctored the cartoons and made up their own, all most foul to any people, but Muslims are particularly inhumorous when there’s an opportunity to get their murder on.

A coordinated plan was created as they traveled the Pits of Hell, I mean the Muslim regions, agitating and inflaming Rage Boys everywhere. Then they acted as one, as if the “incitement” had taken place the day before.

They do this kind of thing. And I know without reservation that this “refugee” crisis is anything but. Well, it’s a crisis, but it’s one for Europe’s ever fewer children to face, without Christian upbringings nor an honest appraisal of History and the Terrors they will face.

Argh! I tried to respo d to Guy-Blanc first, then, having that fall under the second also appreciated response by GSR, I went back to specifically reply directly to him with a second remark, which also fell South of my mark.

We gave them Asylum fed and housed and they blow us up as a Thankyou. .Liberals think if you just leave them alone and give them free stuff they will leave extreme views behind..Now they know,but they’re still going on about hate speech and Mrs May somehow engineered the attack to win the election.
Sick.

You know what my take on it is, yeah, there is going to be some backlash to Muslim’s in the UK. Oh well, this is the new norm, get used to it. You asked for it! And I have a feeling, if this continues, the backlash could end up being more severe. Where is the moderate Muslims to denounce this hideous cowardly act! Not a frickin peep out of them!

And I seen this dad on TV last saying his son wasn’t radicalized, yeah right. Can’t believe these lying vermin, that is part of Jihadist! They need to throw every last one of these political leaders in office out that is for taking in these refugees.