Can anyone recommend to me some books on satanic black magic. Including it's philosophy , physics , and science. As well as LaVeys books on the subject and what he thought on the subject. As well as your opinion on what black magic is and what you think of other books on the subject such as the medieval grimoires that deal with so called black magic for example the grand grimoire and others like it.

If I were to play along with the idea of 'black' vs. 'white' magic (which I don't, but for the purposes of this post...), I suppose 'white magic' is that which goes under the banner of Harm none (or something similar) where 'black magic' places no such restrictions.

HOWEVER, magic is just magic. It is a tool that you can use however you please. I probably wouldn't pick up a book that claimed to be on the subject of 'black magic'.

I don't claim to be an expert on the subject. What I have written above is what I have understood from reading The Satanic Bible and The Satanic Witch. Maybe you should read those.

Edited by phoenixrisen (02/03/0805:09 PM)Edit Reason: I just read your introduction and I wish I hadn't bothered to reply.

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I have a question for you sir. Do you usually ask a question of someone or in this case an entire message board and then not recieve the answers you are looking for and then pose the same question three years later on the same message board and expect to get different results?

If you can not find the answers for yourself with in that kind of time frame you are perhaps the laziest person on earth, either that or you are just plain stupid!

Satanic black magic is supposedly magic whose source comes from Satan or one of his demons. The tragical history Of Doctor Faustus is a perfect example of satanic black magic

I don't know... but I think the tragical history Of Doctor Faustus is a perfect example of fiction.

I recommend you not to waste your time with old grimories or ancient magic tomes, they are just fantasies created by bored minds. If you want to practice Satanic magic, go straight to the source which is the books written by Anton LaVey.

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[...]The Satanic Bible and The Satanic Witch. Maybe you should read those.

Yes, you should definitely start with reading those, if you haven't already.

And I would like to add that Magus Gilmore’s essay called “The Magic of Mastery”, in The Satanic Scriptures, has also been very helpful for me.

There is no black magic or white magic in Satanism. Don’t read those grimoires; they’re a waste of time, and they don’t explain anything you need to know in regards to what Satanic magic is about.

And if you want some real Satanic magic in your reality, then you probably won't want to waste time.

In Satanism, there is Greater Magic (also termed “Intellectual Decompression”), and there is Lesser Magic. For me, real Satanic magic comes in utilizing both of these, and doing productive things in the real world, while including the five ingredients as explained in The Satanic Bible.