So, therefore, an unwanted pregnancy under your policy WOULD result in a threat to the life of the mother, as she would be unable to seek a safe termination, and would then to to a "back room butcher" thus endangering her life - and thus would be able to seek a safe termination.

83T'na wrote:(I read your response. I dont consider rape and incest among the most common reasons women terminate their pregnancies. And of all the women I know who have had medical or surgical abortions, none of them were "irresponsible" with their contraception.

So... you'll judge them as irresponsible for becoming pregnant?.)

No. That's not what I'm saying at all. If you plan to get pregnant but then find it is a threat to your life, it's not your fault. Of course it's not. How can you read that into what I said?

Who said they were planned pregnancies? I am talking about women who practice safe sex and find themselves with a pregnancy they dont want to continue with. Why would you plan to get pregnant while using contraception?

Sassydot wrote:So, therefore, an unwanted pregnancy under your policy WOULD result in a threat to the life of the mother, as she would be unable to seek a safe termination, and would then to to a "back room butcher" thus endangering her life - and thus would be able to seek a safe termination.

FFS - do you think I am against legal abortion?

NO!!!!!!!!!! Duh - I'm only against the tax payer having to fund ALL of them.

ydekm wrote:I know it hasn't been mentioned but I think it's going this way....I think the argument "Oh abortions are used as contraception for lazy women" is the biggest load of crap I have ever heard.

I have held many a hand during an unwanted pregnancy... 3 invasive hospital appointments, 3 sets of retelling how you became pregnant, 1 intense session with a hospital shrink, multiple blood test and cervical smears.... and the physical side effects - pain, vomiting, nausea, potential for infections, follow up appointments, excessive bleeding, fainting.

Hardly someone does more than once if possible.

Having done the same for a friend, I agree. It has to be one of the worst experiences I've ever been through and it wasn't even happening to me.

My stance on abortion is irrelevant to this dicussion, but I think the government should fund a maximum of 3. I believe the government only funds 2 IVF attempts.

Now I struggle to see any logic, any reasoning at all other than plain bigotry, behind your viewpoint that we should be funding ELECTIVE COSMETIC SURGERY, but telling someone, who has little money and is facing an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy, that they have to suck it up.

I'd rather fund someone who has the balls to stand up and say, I am not ready for this child, please helpCos do you know what? That IS taking responsibility.

Sassydot wrote:Now I struggle to see any logic, any reasoning at all other than plain bigotry, behind your viewpoint that we should be funding ELECTIVE COSMETIC SURGERY, but telling someone, who has little money and is facing an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy, that they have to suck it up.

I'd rather fund someone who has the balls to stand up and say, I am not ready for this child, please helpCos do you know what? That IS taking responsibility.

Sassydot wrote:Now I struggle to see any logic, any reasoning at all other than plain bigotry, behind your viewpoint that we should be funding ELECTIVE COSMETIC SURGERY, but telling someone, who has little money and is facing an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy, that they have to suck it up.

I'd rather fund someone who has the balls to stand up and say, I am not ready for this child, please helpCos do you know what? That IS taking responsibility.

Sassydot wrote:Now I struggle to see any logic, any reasoning at all other than plain bigotry, behind your viewpoint that we should be funding ELECTIVE COSMETIC SURGERY, but telling someone, who has little money and is facing an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy, that they have to suck it up.

I'd rather fund someone who has the balls to stand up and say, I am not ready for this child, please helpCos do you know what? That IS taking responsibility.