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News, analysis and commentary from someone who has covered the Washington Nationals since Day 1Tue, 31 Mar 2015 21:43:35 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: Section 222http://natsinsider.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order/comment-page-1/#comment-140472
Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:48:45 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-140472Hahaha! Turns out I was right after all. Storen returned to the majors on July 19. It's now August 1. He's had seven appearances and not a single one has been in a save situation. Now when can I start as a GM or manager somewhere?
]]>By: NatsLadyhttp://natsinsider.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order/comment-page-1/#comment-122664
Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:05:02 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122664I understand your thought, but it would also mean Gio, JZ, and EJax only pitching every 6th day, and I don't think that's desirable.
]]>By: Scott Duhaimehttp://natsinsider.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order/comment-page-1/#comment-122649
Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:22:14 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122649Probably a bit of unconventional thinking, but I would like to see the team extend the starting rotation to preserve Strasburg. Detwiler could go back to the rotation, and the young and/or fragile (wang) pitchers could be extended far longer than their current pace projects. As it stands now, Strasburg is on pace to reach the 150 inning mark at around game 130 (end of August)for the Nationals, taking him out of a possible pennant race in September and possibly the postseason. Moving Detwiler to the rotation and using a 6 man rotation would get strasburg to the end of the season and possibly into October; which for a team in first place is an attractive option.
]]>By: Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofahttp://natsinsider.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order/comment-page-1/#comment-122637
Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:53:12 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122637Sofa.. hmmm who would I invite in that can be cast in the Role of Applegate.. one to ponder. Casting no aspersions on anyone, right off the top of my head…Brian McNamee.
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Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:22:19 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122626New post.. and something new for us to debate…
]]>By: NatsLadyhttp://natsinsider.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order/comment-page-1/#comment-122625
Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:20:49 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122625Exactly. That's what kept me from weighing in on the issue. Who wants to be on the side of that pR—?_________________________________________________Section 222 said…Good to know that NJ and NL agree with pRAA. That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion, just as he is. And yes, I will crow if I'm right but only because pRAA has been such a jerk about it.
]]>By: NatsLadyhttp://natsinsider.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order/comment-page-1/#comment-122624
Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:18:57 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122624From Giolito's point of view, I can't understand why he wouldn't sign, assuming he gets the max amount of money the Nats can offer without a penalty. – He will get exactly the same medical treatment, and better training.That's because he will spend three years in the pro system rather than three years in the college system. His peripherals (fielding, game situation awareness, etc.) won't develop as well in college. Also he will pitch against better hitters in the minors because he will face other top prospects and rehabbing ML players. He may face good hitters in college, but not as many and not on a regular basis.- If he waits, he might get more money, but he will go to a worse team (probably a lot worse team), and probably a team with a worse track record of developing pitchers. OTOH, it's probably a lot more fun to spend three years in SoCal than three years riding buses in the East. So, the question is, how serious is he about a major-league career? Is he willing to spend an extra three years in the minor-league grind to be a better ML pitcher? (I'm assuming that he would still spend a year in the minors if he were drafted as a college player.)
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Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:18:56 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122623Thanks to MicheleS for citing an excellent resource in the Guide to Being a Fan (as well all know, the first page tells us to "root, root, root for the home team").Re. the Drew debate, while y'all were choosing up sides, you forgot about those of us who are content to sit on the sidelines with our popcorn and watch, i.e., waiting and seeing rather than theorizing and debating (to be followed by either crowing or crow-eating). :-) Happily, there's a game tonight so that we'll able to watch some actual, you know, baseball happening.
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Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:05:29 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122618Good to know that NJ and NL agree with pRAA. That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion, just as he is. And yes, I will crow if I'm right but only because pRAA has been such a jerk about it.
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Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:00:58 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122617NatsJackThat seems a possibility to me too. It's just curious to me that most of the higher picks aren't going down to the wire. I guess Giolito is different because of the injury, and because he'd have gone higher without it. The later the Nats wait, the more time they have to their other picks and figure out exactly how much "extra" money from their pool allotment they have to offer him. According to Baseball America, the Nats are "under" allotment by almost $690K after signing 7 of their picks from the first 10 rounds (also still unsigned are Mooneyham and Benincasa).
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Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:00:40 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122616I think signing Giolito is almost a must. He's got much more upside than the traded A.J. Cole.I agree, however, that not signing him isn't the end of the world, just that he's someone Rizzo really covets.
]]>By: NatsLadyhttp://natsinsider.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order/comment-page-1/#comment-122615
Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:53:47 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122615HH, the latest "news" I could find was Amanda's article yesterday which said the Nats could scrape together about $3 million to offer him, and they would not forfeit a future draft pick by going over the limit (though they might pay the $$ penalty).My opinion is that it will go right to the wire. Knowing Rizzo, he won't be bullied and he has lots of patience. The Nats are likely to pick much lower than 16th next year, so getting the compensatory "sandwich" pick (17th, I believe) if he doesn't sign wouldn't be the worst result. We got Storen the next year when Boone didn't sign. If he signs, great, but you still have to deal with the fact that he's four years away and we don't know whether he will have to have TJ or something. If he doesn't sign, you might get someone next year who, if he is three or less years away from the majors, is close to the same value. So, no, I'm not worried.
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Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:49:31 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122614OOPS.. my bad… I meant CAA will want to wring evet=ry last nickle.
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Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:48:11 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122613NatsLady.. when I refered to Davey changing his mind, I was referring to "John is my 5th Starter". That stuff, not talking about in game management. I am sure it's driving him nuts not to have the bullpen roles sorted out.Sofa.. hmmm who would I invite in that can be cast in the Role of Applegate.. one to ponder.
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Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:48:03 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122612hiramhover…. I doubt Giolito signs until the last day due to the fact that Boras will want to wring every last avaialble nickle out of the Nats and that there's really no hurry anyway. Giolito will be assigned immediately to rehab in Viera and believe me, that's something you want to delay as long as possible.
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Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:42:08 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122611Tcostant, nice link. The author makes the point that ERA's rise in the heat of the Texas summer. We are about to have one heck of a heat wave here, right when we are home and in Ballmer (might break by Sunday).
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Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:32:27 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122610Sofa.. who would play Mr Applegate this year? Boras? Bud Selig? the Ghost of George Steinbrenner?No, it has to be someone you'd invite in.
]]>By: hiramhoverhttp://natsinsider.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order/comment-page-1/#comment-122609
Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:32:04 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122609Can I shift the baseless speculation from Storen's first return appearance to the draft? Giolito remains unsigned–anyone else concerned about that, or want to speculate about when/if he signs? I note that of the 15 players drafted before him, 10 have already signed or agreed to sign. Among the 5 unsigned is the pouty Boras client, Mark Appel.In other news–the Braves have released Livo. Sorry, big fella.
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Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:28:14 +0000http://natsinsider.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/nats-getting-bullpen-back-in-order#comment-122608You know what they call a manager who doesn't change his mind all the time? A loser. Or Jim Riggleman.
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