Depending on performance numbers, I'll be getting either a 790 or 8990. (or whatever the dual GPU card will be called.) My 7970's have been disappointing. Low FPS in WoW @ maxxed out 1080p

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I would not call what w1zz's review shows bad fps. Sounds like you have a possible crossfire problem, or maybe something else. Why did you get crossfire anyways? Isn't 100 fps enough, if you at least got that?

It's somewhat very unlikely that performance will be more than 2x of its predecessor. Usually 2x is the limit at which they hold onto. Though they rarely do it. For AMD i only remember it happening with HD4800 -> HD5800 transition where HD5800 was twice as fast.

I would not call what w1zz's review shows bad fps. Sounds like you have a possible crossfire problem, or maybe something else. Why did you get crossfire anyways? Isn't 100 fps enough, if you at least got that?

Are your sure that it's your video card slowing down? WoW has a nasty CPU bottleneck problem. It's not like it can take full advantage of your 6-core SB-E chip. What does your GPU usage look like and does reducing shadow quality make your FPS skyrocket?

Are your sure that it's your video card slowing down? WoW has a nasty CPU bottleneck problem. It's not like it can take full advantage of your 6-core SB-E chip. What does your GPU usage look like and does reducing shadow quality make your FPS skyrocket?

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I stood still in front of the Stormwind AH. Its fairly populated. About 55 FPS, turning the shadow quality from Ultra to Low bumped it up to 77 FPS.

I'm starting to think it's not so impossible to be faster than a GTX690 which is basically 2 fully enabled GK104 SLIed running at 915+MHz. The 690 is around 1.6x a GTX680 (correct me if I'm wrong). GK110 has almost double the TMUs 240 vs. 128, almost double CUDA cores 2880 vs. 1536 and memory interface of 384bit giving 288 MB/s bandwidth vs. 256/192MB/s compared to GK104. Let's not forget it has 7 billion transistors, again almost double the GK104 (not that it matters much but it's really a monster chip). If they will clock it at 1GHz and don't care about power consumption since it's uber enthusiast category, I think it's not such a SF presumption that it will top the GTX690.

Hmmm those numbers seem a little too good to be true. But even if it only achieves 6000 or over, Nvidia can still take my money. One of the few top end video cards I'd be interested in getting on release as usually I hold off for the initial price drop but this seems too good to pass up.

i see it's nothing approaching, it's remind me in nvidia gtx200 series and ATI 4000 series times, Nvidia gtx600 series and AMD 7000 series are doing the job and booth of them is really Satisfied for performance and sales, maybe in Q3 2013 or Q4 wii see something.

I cant access CCC to see activity. I click the exe and my mouse flickers with a loading circle and nothing...

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Why are you using CCC to view usage? It doesn't even give you vram usage and doesn't graph it or anything so it's basically useless for that purpose. Use the GPU-Z OSD server or use Afterburner's OSD so you can see it right in the WoW viewport. I suspect you're bottlenecking on your CPU (yes, I know that its blasphemous to say an Intel 6-core is bottlenecking.)

You know, this might sound odd but try disabling hyperthreading and try it again. If your framerate improves it's very likely to be a CPU bottleneck on one or two cores. Could you try and setup turbo so it boosts the first couple cores a bit higher than 4Ghz? Maybe that might help if it is a bottleneck with the most used thread in WoW. Most games won't be able to utilize the full ability of all 6 cores, so no use overclocking all 6 cores unless you need it imho.

Seeing what your GPU usage looks like could also say if its a CPU bottleneck or not. If its anything less than 85%, you know what's going on.

Why are you using CCC to view usage? It doesn't even give you vram usage and doesn't graph it or anything so it's basically useless for that purpose. Use the GPU-Z OSD server or use Afterburner's OSD so you can see it right in the WoW viewport. I suspect you're bottlenecking on your CPU (yes, I know that its blasphemous to say an Intel 6-core is bottlenecking.)

You know, this might sound odd but try disabling hyperthreading and try it again. If your framerate improves it's very likely to be a CPU bottleneck on one or two cores. Could you try and setup turbo so it boosts the first couple cores a bit higher than 4Ghz? Maybe that might help if it is a bottleneck with the most used thread in WoW. Most games won't be able to utilize the full ability of all 6 cores, so no use overclocking all 6 cores unless you need it imho.

Seeing what your GPU usage looks like could also say if its a CPU bottleneck or not. If its anything less than 85%, you know what's going on.

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Wow what, the GPU usage is at 78 percent on GPU2 and 24 percent on GPU1

Exactly. The specs speak for themself. There is no way the 780 can beat 690, that's just way unreal.

With pure mathematical calculation: 2688/1532 = 1.75 ergo a theoretical 75% performance increase over the 680 with no power leak and 100% effective input power ( sorry I forget the exact phrase for this particular expression, I'm just 19 you know. )
If you insert the exhaust power into the theoretical equation, so let's say 20%, that 75% would now ve 55%.

And now the price comparison: 900$ / 1.55 vs 469$ ( the cheapest one i can find on newegg )/ 1. I would say NV is applying the same strategy as the one ASUS are now using with the ARES II, so anyone who is bitching about it now can stay silenced. Thus, Videocardz recently posted an article about the delay of next generation to Q4 2013. Therefore, I would say buying either ARES II or 780 would not be stupid.