Anyone hoping to pickup a Samsung Galaxy S 4 better be ready to purchase a microSD card along with it. As there’s been no mention of any size higher than the 16GB on T-Mobile, it’s worth noting that the device comes with just 8.82GB of free memory available to the user. That number accounts for the pre-loaded applications, with the remainder of the 16GB memory not even accessible on the Storage info screen. As far as your Galaxy S 4 is concerned, it only has 8.82GB of free memory available.

Ultimately, if you want to load music or store pictures to leave memory available for all the apps you’ll want to have, a microSD card is going to be a must-have with the entry-level 16GB model.

Let’s hope T-Mobile changes its tune and introduces a 32GB or 64GB model down the road.

About David Beren

David is the founder and Editor-in-Chief of TmoNews.com. He considers himself a Jedi Knight, capable of leaping tall buildings in a single bound and a connoisseur of fine cell phones. He has been involved in the wireless industry since 2003 and has been known to swap out phones far too many times in any given year. Should you wish to contact him, you can do so: david@tmonews.com.

It’s a shame too because I don’t think cloud based is the way to go, especially in this day in age.

Trysta

I’ve never had a Galaxy phone (besides the Galaxy Nexus but that doesn’t count). How does Samsung partition memory for the internal storage?

I ask because I might get a memory card for pics etc. but I do not want ANYTHING else to be on the sd card. I don’t have a lot of stuff and I want most of it on the faster internal storage. Would I be able to choose for say music? photos? kindle ebooks etc? Is there a simulated /sd card/ directory like on Nexus devices or is their a separate formated partition for internal “external” storage vs the system partition where apps etc go?

Not sure I am explaining myself correctly but anyone with a GS3 etc. who can give input it would be much appreciated.

Really tempted by this phone…

Logan Kennelly

There is internal, and it’s all lumped together. Applications, music, pictures: it all comes from the same (in this case) 8.82GB pool.

Then there is external. In general, applications can choose to use external for saving data (pictures, audiobooks), but they typically don’t and when they do, it’s an option. For example, you can configure the camera application to save to either internal or external (it’s under settings).

Anything you copy over will go where you put it. I like to put all my music on the external card, so I choose Card from my computer.

In other words, it sounds like it works exactly the way you want it to.

Trysta

thanks! good to know :-)

lovingmyGN2

Same problem with the note 2. Damn why is it so hard for them to offer higher size options? I mean it’s only a small chip for crying out loud. I have to constantly swap apps from external sd and my usb stick.

Jay

Considering a 16gb sd card is 7 dollars on ebay. No big deal.

JungleJunkie

Except you can’t install apps on a SD card.

Jay

You can moves apps, just not every one. I was saying more along the lines of movies, photos, and music, which I would think a majority of the space on the phone would be going to.

JBLmobileG1

While your right about movies and music on an sd card you are unable to move actual apps to sd unless you are rooted or using an older version of Android. This is why the Nexus line of phones don’t let you use sd cards. Personally I would love for Google to bring this option back I have a feeling it would never happen.

Trevnerdio

One word: rooting.

scarfacemario

Ugh why would you do that Tmo I myself dont need more than 16gb but I would still like customers to have all options available as it benefits everyone

Or just don’t rely on local storage. My 8gb Nexus 4 only has 6ish gigs free. But with Netflix, Plex, Google Music, Slacker, etc. I honestly haven’t noticed. Live in the cloud, man.

Khalints

except you know, when there’s no data for whatever reason…then you’re kind of SOL

Jason Crumbley

Especially being on T-Mobile’s network.

zifnab

Except cloud eats data or requires you to stay fastened to a wifi spot. Can’t live in the cloud until data is everywhere and unlimited.

JBLmobileG1

Cloud based storage is a joke. For one, it too is limited, and to get more storage you usually have to pay. Also can you really trust it? If you store sensitive data on a cloud storage I would think you’d have a greater risk of fraud and who knows what else. While cloud based storage can be good for some things I wouldn’t trust it or even rely on it, because like some said, if you are in an area where you have poor coverage and you need to access something that is in your cloud you may be SOL.

Gdm Laz

holy crap this thing takes a lot of memory….. I don’t remember the s3 being so bad…. I do run cm on mines tho…… But hey my 56gb sd card will come in handy again lol

Chris

with the 8 on board and my 16gb card i’ll be just fine.. I don’t cram crap all over the place so for my type of usage it’s all good baby!!!

Chris

lmao Not on my phone!

Borillion

Stupid, I got stuck with the 16 GB Note 2 because of T-mobiles dumb idea that 16 GB is all anyone needs.

sushimane

what u talking about 16gb was the standard memory every other carrier has 16

Borillion

Thats what Im talking about, example on Ebay “Samsung Galaxy Note II 32GB Note 2 N7100 Grey” Personally I would’t mind if we had all the functionality of the internal memory as the sdcard, but we don’t, burst mode from camera, apps and etc.

dj

Get a note 2, hands down better phone with more storage available

ceegii63

no its not, the Note 3 is

dj

Note 3 won’t be out till late this year and who wants a flexible screen

Wilma Flintstone

I want a flexible screen, just not on the Note 3

zifnab

Note 3 might be hands down better, but note 2 has lesser hardware… so not so hands down. Plus you are assuming that all people want a tablet sized phone. Personally I like phones that fit in my pocket, and 5″ is when that threshold gets crossed.

dj

Note 3 isn’t even out or have release date yet so it’s speculation.Note 2 beats all phones out. 5″ isn’t considered tablet.

My T-Mobile Note 2 came with 16GB – around 12 after bloatware. The fact that I can’t move apps over to SD card is astonishing.

Jason Crumbley

No, no, no. 16GB is more than enough. /sarcasm.

FlyOhMy

i still ordered my s4 anyway but all of those features came with a price. :/

JoePa

HTC One has 32GB for the same price.

Jaime Laigo

with no microSD slot….

Prod1702

32gb is enough. Way more then enough.

zifnab

For whom? That’s an opinion. I can crush 32gb in a second just with music.

Prod1702

32gb of music is way to much on a phone. No one needs that much music. Make a few playlists and change them out every now and then. 32gb of music is alot of music.

zifnab

@Prod1702 I don’t want to have to change the music. Phone makers are capable of making enough space on their devices for me to hold all my music (64gb). Moving it back and forth is tedious, and smart phones are supposed to remove the tedious.

@sushimane yeah i’ve heard of spotify, haven’t really made use of it yet. But in any event it still creates 2 issues for me: 1) I’ve already paid for my 40 – 50 gb of personal music, i’m not going to ditch everything i’ve spent money on in lieu of a service that i’m going to have to pay for again; and 2) It still requires me to be on data to use it. If data wasn’t a concern i could just throw my personal music on google drive and be done with it (which is what i’ve had to do with 2/3 of my music anyways because the Nexus 4 has a paltry 16gb). Until my contract is up I can’t change to the completely unlimited plan, and even when I do t-mobile’s data isn’t exactly great everywhere you go, and I don’t have wifi everywhere I go.

Trevnerdio

Okay, enough with the porn.

Prod1702

lol nice explain

Bknight

I have over 1500 hundred songs on my phone now. HTC One BTW and with pics reloaded lots of apps as well and some movies it still have 12 gb left over. 32gb of music???????

sushimane

have u heard of spotify? u can make up ur own playlist for like 5 dollars a month or sumthing.

WW

Way more than enough for Prod1702 but not enough for zifnab.

Trevnerdio

Eh…I only have 2 gigs left on my 32 gig card with all my FLAC music files and some videos (not to mention a movie or two)

32GB microSDHC is nowadays $21.99. As long as there is a microSD slot, that’s a nobrainer. I wouldn’t even worry …

RedGeminiPA

Except SD cards are SLOW compared to built-in memory.

kalel33

Not when you get a class 10 card.

Prod1702

Class 10 cards can fail a lot easier then internal storage. Its the point that 8gb of space is not enough.

kalel33

I’ve owned 3 different microSD cards and no fail, and I’ve never met a single person who’s had a failed microSD card. In the 2 1/2 years I was a rep with T-mobile and Verizon I only ran into one customer who had one fail. You have a better chance of your phone bricking and losing everything. At least I can keep a backup of my phone on an external drive, while you lost it all.

RedGeminiPA

You have a better chance of your phone (Android?) no longer recognizing the SD card… forums are rampant with complaints about it with various phones.

kalel33

That’s a phone issue, not a microSD card issue. We would send out replacement phones to fix that issue. Plus, when you get the new replacement you have a backup of all your information and you only have to throw in the microSD card and done. That’s what makes removable storage superior. I can take it from phone to phone with no issues.

Also, just to bring up your “rampant” claim, it’s extremely rare for a phone to defect and not recognize a sd card. If it was rampant then there’d be hundreds of thousands of posts per month about the issue, because the phones with microSD slots are the highest selling phones for Androids and that’d be millions sold per month.

Trevnerdio

My old micro SD was dragged through salt water for a good amount of time in a phone that was powered on…I didn’t even bother to dry it. A month later, it worked fine.

WW

It could be the same technology but soldered into the board. The HD7 had it’s “non-removable” storage in the form of an actual micro SD card.

This is total bull shit. I will not buy the SGS4 with a pathetic 9gb of usable memory. Doesn’t matter how big your sd card is it won’t help your apps and games. My SGS3 has 32gb of int storage and the sd card, I will not buy anything with less. T-Mobile let AT&T get the exclusive on the HTC One with 64gb of int storage, They will probably do the same with SAmsung. I am a extremely pissed off over this, I waited for a long time hoping that since T-Mobile had the SGS3 with 32gb they would also get the SGS4 with 32gb. Top of the line Smartphones should have a minimum of 32gb, anything less is a complete failure. Do not buy the 16gb version, you will run out of storage. This is the only way to force the Carrier to carry the better phone.

its only the app its self not what the apps store. Also any apps that are on the main system when they update that goes onto the phone not the SD card. 16gb is enough right now. My Nexus 4 has 16gb i have the phone rooted with 30 apps 5 of which are over 300mb games. I also have about 3 to 5 roms on the SD card at a time and i have 8gb free. I can understand how bad 8gb is but 16gb is ok. If you look at all the reviews for the GS4 you can see all the crap on that phone that no one will use and the reason why it only has 8gb free.

zifnab

Its “ok” but i’ve had to wipe all my music off my Nexus 4 because 16gb wasn’t enough to even scratch the surface… and i have a modest music collection. Cloud still isn’t an answer, Tmobile’s data has terrible building penetration, isn’t available everywhere, and I can’t always get to WIFI. 32gb is the start of acceptable imo.

Prod1702

But do you need 16gb of music. Thats more then enough music for a playlist from NY to CA and back.

TechAce01

It’s not about what a person needs. Just because you can’t justify having more than 16Gbs of music doesn’t mean others shouldn’t have that option.

Prod1702

this is understandable but remember the needs of the many out weight the needs of the few and the many do not need more then 16gb of space at the current time. yes some people do but that is why there is things like a Wifi Drive. I have a Wifi drive and they are great. More then one person can use it at one time plus i know I will be able to use it with whatever phone i get.

TechAce01

Wait a minute…. Are you saying that I can’t have a device the way that I want it because somebody else don’t see a “need’ for it? Then Why should I buy it? What’s the point in buying something I can’t use the way I want to use it? Why should I suffer because some body who don’t know nothing about my needs think I shouldn’t be using more storage than some arbitrary number (Like 16gb) they came up with?

I also disagree with the notion of ” the needs of the many out weight the needs of the few” argument. These many people aren’t paying for my device, they aren’t paying for my data plan, they aren’t doing what I do, so why should they have *any* input on what I NEED?

If you don’t need more than 16 gbs… fine. You use the phone that you bought the way to want to use it, but please leave me alone to use my phone the way that best suits my needs.

The site was behaving badly this morning when I went to order mine. Ended up ordering over the phone, received the email and activated the agreement with the provided PIN and was given tracking info shortly after without a hitch.

Snake384

Damn !! I haven’t gotten no email since 11am :( .. Guess I should just cancel n wait till wensday since if I fix it now ill get the phone by wensday.. Wensday u can buy fom store correct?

sushimane

8 gb free space? The note 2 has 16 and I still have almost 11gb left

sushimane

that’s what i mean after all that tmobile bloat ware i still have 11

Guest

Isnt it alot cheaper to just buy a new sd card instead of getting it with the phone?

Wilma Flintstone

8GB is fine for me as long as there is a micro SD card slot. I’ll just grab a 32GB class 10 Micro SD card for about $30 or a 64GB for $50 and be good to go.

Trevnerdio

I got a 32 gig Samsung card from Newegg for $31 I believe

zifnab

WTF are they loading up with 8gb of data?! That’s when you know its time to scrap some bloatware. And why label it as having 16gb of space when you only get 8. It should be advertised as 8!

And on this note, why does Tmobile always offer the lowest storage version of every phone. How does Tmobile benefit by stiffing people on storage? If I ever considered buying the S4 I couldn’t buy it on Tmobile. My phone has 16gb now and its frustratingly limited.

Dakota

Hope the Washington AG gets in this… It sounds like way more false advertising than Tmos plans

MatthewMurawski

Lol honestly 8.82 GB is plenty for me. I only use like 3-5 anyway.

JBLmobileG1

Or is a nerd like me and has to try out every app. LOL

Truthfull

16 is an understatement, if your below 100 you dont deserve to call yoruself a male…

installing AOSP or similar ROMs brings down the system’s need for space, thus, allowing more user space. had the problem on my note 2 of running out of space with any touchwiz ROM but now with AOSP, dont have any space limitation issues. and i assure you that AOSP will come to the s4.

Sorry_Sammy

Why should I need to install a custom ROM? I want to use the phone the way the manufacturer designed it. Glad I waited. I could almost stomach the S3S before hearing this, now there is no way. HTC ONE it is!

kalel33

If you don’t use a customer ROM then have fun with extremely slow or non-existent updates to your phone’s Android OS. In terms of updating Android on phones, HTC would be the worst if LG wasn’t still making phones.

Qayin

Stop being some whiny b!Ã·@#=$ Why do you guys need to walk around with 32 and 64 gb of stuff on your phones lol thats retarded!

JBLmobileG1

May I ask then, why should one get a smartphone at all? Why not just get a phone for texting and calling and leave anything app or data related to tablets and computers. Trust me, if you actually use your smartphone you’d see why you’d want a phone with 32gb or even 64gb of storage. Heck you paid for your smartphone and your data might as well take advantage of it and use it.

Qayin

It sounds good but everyone has a smartphone now and if one of my friends was walking around with 64gb of stuff on his phone I would tell him he’s crazy that’s ridiculous I use cloud storage any way!

Qayin

Lol

blkalleykat

It’s not a deal breaker for me as I don’t put music on my phone besides new ringtones I make but man those are some storage hogging apps. The literal definition of bloatware

blkalleykat

Ha. I have porn but I keep it on my PC. I don’t use my phone as a PC so the lack of space isn’t an issue for me.

ssl48

Talk about bloatware. I was gonna give this phone a look, but this seals the deal for me, plus it’s overpriced; HTC One it is.

Chris

Like that’ll be free of bloatware?

Herb

The OS & preloaded apps on the HTC One takes up 6.28 GB, compared to nearly 8GB on the S4. That’s a pretty big difference when you consider the fact that the S4 has half of the space of the One. And if Samsung keeps with their current trend of no native app-to-SD support, this is going to be a big problem for the average consumer. In the week and a half I’ve had my One, I would have already filled up the S4.

g2a5b0e

You’re ridiculous, guy.

g2a5b0e

I hear you, man. I have WAY more than 32GB of porn. However, none of it resides on my phone.

any official word on how much the 32 GB GS4 will be? If it’s $200, then maybe…but not a penny more.

Rauel Crespo

Just get an HTC One…it is literally the same underlying hardware, with a better design, more storage and a very nice camera.

Tinger12

I wouldn’t call all of it Bloatware. Yes I’m sure Tmo has put a bunch of their crap on it but many of the Samsung apps that are preinstalled are worth using for many. Don’t just write it all off until you get the phone and see what is installed and USE it.

the2000guy

What? Only 8.82GB available on the S4? This is a joke. The S3 that I had used to have 12GB available including the tmo apps. What is in there now? Can someone tell more about that? I think that is more relatd to samsung apps than tmo….

SpE

What is in there, you asked? Lots and lots of “features” almost nobody will use. I am truly disappointed Samsung chose to bloat too much TouchWhiz this time around. Got a friend with the AT&T GS4 which is experiencing lag. Yes, lag, even with two more cores than my T-mo GS3.

the2000guy

What?? Lag in the S4?? But I didnt experienced any lag on the S3. So is almost 4GB more of Samsung Bloatware

uknoTJ

lol Samsung knows no one would go for a $200+ 8gig phone so they call it a 16 and only let u access half the memory

Glad I went with the HTC One, which at least comes with 32gb without asking you to fork out more dimes for the sd card

pikachu

Just saying, as a store rep, I’ve had a lot of people come in with Note 2s asking why they have no freespace they didn’t even put music or a bunch of apps on their phone. Over time I narrowed it down to video recording. I just recorded an 8 minute video on my S3, it was ONE GIG. That’s pretty lousy of I had eight gigs of freespace that’s only an hour with EIGHT MEGAPIXELS. if you record a birthday party with no micro sd you’re DONE. That bites seeing customers be in that position with such a simple task

np6s4x

i’d say around 100mb/min is pretty normal, and megapixels mean don’t mean much in regards to video, since the highest it can be is 1080, or just over 2mp, 8mp video would be up around 4k resolution

Thomas C Montano

People bitch either way. The fact is the ROM size is growing to accommodate the new features of the phone . I have a 64gb card that has passed between my Note 1, GS3, and Note 2, and now to my Octacore GS4. I can just pop it in with all my pics, important apps, and I’m ready to roll. Sure, there is a lot of the 16gb allocated out of box. It has been no different on HTC One devices with 16gb (One S & One X had 10.1) and they didn’t even have SD support. You ONE fans, keep telling yourself you have the better device. That’s why it’s cheaper and will be worth 1/2 of that in 3 months when they announce a One + lol.

Chucky

I spoke to a sales rep and he said Friday the will offer the 32gb and 64gb. For now just online it’s 16gb but it will change after Friday.

ceegii63

sales reps usually dont know anything about future devices, as in cluless so id take that with a grain of salt

WW

Agreed. As a regular visitor to tmonews, I know more than the average sales rep about upcoming devices and plans. If they happen to know something (upcoming) that I don’t, they most likely read an article from here that I skipped or missed.

That being said, I’d speculate that the higher capacity GS4’s will come to T-Mobile.

moises1204

you are so right, it is pathetic how little these reps at the stores knows about anything! whats even worst is that i went to a best buy Samsung kiosk store in Dedham mass and the 2 person in charge of showing you Samsung products, lets put it this way i knew more about Samsung products than they did, they dint even know what was an LTE network!! how the hell they get this type of jobs?

kalel33

When I was a rep with T-mobile, I got most of my information from T-mobile’s facebook account and Tmonews. It’s incredible how “in the dark” they keep their reps. I’d come to work passing on news that T-mobile themselves posted on facebook but hadn’t updated in T-community and wouldn’t be until days or weeks later.

ceegii63

why all the hate? as if people who buy it wont slap on a memory card on it

SpE

The hate comes from a heavily bloated TouchWhiz this time around.

Jeff Martinez

16 gb S4 with a micro-sd card slot? Storage shouldn’t be as bad of an issue. You can get a 32 GB card for like 20-25 bucks. I have a 16 GB Nexus 4, no issues here, my place of storage is Google plus for videos and pics, Google Music is sitting with 2700+ songs…where? In the cloud. All of this backed up on a 2 TB external HD. There are other means for storage. Just depends on your preference.

Rauel Crespo

You understand that your Nexus 4 with 13gb of usable space is 5GB more than the Galaxy S4 with 8gb of usable space, right? You also understand that games can’t be installed on the cloud right? You also get that most games that would actually take advantage of the underlying hardware would require more and more space for installation correct?

Jeff Martinez

Please don’t point out the obvious. Its like me saying…you DO know that games can be installed onto the memory card right? You DO know that you can root and get rid of bloatware right? Blah blah, the deal is you have a slot for expandable storage. Its an option on a phone with little storage space. For not much money you can buy a 32 GB card + the 8 GB you already got and you end up with less than 40 gigs of storage PLUS the cloud for videos and pics. I don’t see a major issue here.

Richard Yarrell

If you are a current Galaxy family device owner this is a NON ISSUE period.

squiddy20

What a dumb comment. Non-issue? Samsung advertises the phone as 16GB and you get barely even half that much. With a ton of high quality games already out (and coming soon) that are easily over 1GB each, this is a HUGE issue. I’d hate to see what you call an “issue”.

Herb

So…. if you already own a Galaxy device then you actually get 16GB? I don’t know why I would expect you to say something rational but….. really?!

HTC-FTW

LMFAO!!!! All you HTC haters who said the One sucked because of no SD card! At least it has a good amount of available storage out of the box! Enjoy your 8 gigs!!!! Don’t use them all in one place!!

moises1204

hahaha, good one!! that is why i got a 64 gb sd card on ebay for $27 DOLLARS!! can you do that when your htc one memory run low? oh no? Damn!

WW

I have no horse in this race (I have a GNex with no expandable memory and have no intention of getting either a One or GS4) but IMO having to add your own 64GB micro SD is a much more economical way to upgrade the memory anyway.

A 32GB version would cost at least $50 more…that’s $50 for 16GB more storage.

A 64GB version would cost at least $100 more…that’s $100 for 48GB more storage.

A 64GB micro SD card would cost under $100 (closer to $70)…that’s $100 for 72GB for your 16GB (8GB+ usable) GS4 with the flexibility of being able to swap it around.

DoubleD

32gb microSD at Costco for $30.

kalel33

I’ve seen that one and it’s a slow microSD card. Look on Amazon and get a 32GB class 10 from Sandisk for $27.

Rauel Crespo

Yes, you can add storage, but it is unusable for Apps. All I ever found the SD-Cards good for are for pictures (music was pointless because Google music streaming works everywhere for me, and if I DO go to an area with bad connection the Cached music is usually my favorite). And with Google Drive and Dropbox, SD-Card for pictures is pointless, as I could take a days worth of pictures, make sure they uploaded, then delete them from the phone. Easy Peasy. If I want to show someone, I’d just open Dropbox or Picasa and show them the picture from the cloud. Being a fellow Galaxy Nexus owner, I’m sure you also found a way around the pitiful amount of storage on our phones. Really taught me good habits with managing my device efficiently, best phone I ever had until I got the HTC One.

WW

If that’s the case, I think the “16GB” GS4 is insufficient with it’s available 8GB+. If the various ways to get around not being able to install apps to SD works then I still think replaceable memory is superior.

Wish I had a micro SD slot on my GNex. I chose the trade off for a Nexus device but I lament the omission rather than celebrating it. If it was there, it would expand your choices rather than limiting them.

I support HTC and want to see them succeed. More competition for Samsung would be nice but I personally can’t stand HTC’s locked bootloader policy (I view it as a broken promise).

WW

You all get +1

JGaLaXY

This actually pisses me off….like really…I might consider the HTC ONE now, gotta compare what kind of storage is ACTUALLY on the phone…

JBLmobileG1

If I were you and were looking forward to the S4 I would hold off until they hopefully get the 32gb model. Reason being you will be missing an sd slot on the HTC One which is great for music and movies. For me just my 32gb on my S3 is strictly for apps and the rest goes on my sd card and even with 32gb I every now and then find myself deleting apps to make room for others, specifically high end games. Just be patient and hopefully Tmobile will pull through.

JGaLaXY

Will the S4 be able to handle 64GB micro cards? I heard someone say below that starting Friday, T-Mobile will handle 32GB S4 online. I think I will try to wait as long as I can, my current phone’s screen is busted though and modded and acting crazy lol. For those that are saying “8GBs is enough” For a lot of the people of my generation(i’m 26) 8GBs is nothing especially when you talk about putting your music library on your phone alone. It is clutch having music with you at all times of the day.

canurollwiththis

Format the 64gb microSD to Fat32 and it will work. My SGS II reads my 64gb card perfectly in fat32

This may or may not be relevant to T-mobile, because if you read the article it only talks about the AT&T version. Nothing was discussed on the other carrier phones.

SpE

If you read the article it DOESN’T talk only about the AT&T version. See the part that says: “…but according to AnandTech’s Brian Klug other carriers are also selling the phone with a locked bootloader.”

kalel33

But the rest of that sentence states they were only able to CONFIRM one carrier. That means they don’t know for sure and that it’s speculative. Can you show me the article from Anantech that confirms Sprint and T-mobile has a locked bootloader, because I did a search and couldn’t find it, and I found an article that confirms that Sprint is unlocked.

kalel33

Here’s an article stating that the AT&T bootloader is locked but the Sprint version isn’t.

So you might want to learn how to decipher what is fact and which is possible conjecture.

Kenan Jackson

T-Mobile GS4 bootloader is confirmed UNLOCKED.

kevininboise

64gb micro-sd cards are cheap, just get one of those and pop it in!

Rauel Crespo

Ok, but what if I want to install more than one top end game? Some are hitting 3.5GBs now, and those can’t be installed to the SD-Card, so that 8GB of storage on the S4 gets eaten up real quick. The limited storage for Apps, not to mention the streaming cache data for Google Music and other streaming apps, is one of the reasons I picked the HTC One over the Galaxy S4. 32GB(26gb) is a sweet spot for me, was perfect on my iPad3, Nexus 7 and iPhone 4s. With Dropbox and Google Drive the need for external storage is passe for pictures. As long as the onboard storage increases (next gen phones should START at 64GB and go up to 256GB) external SD-cards will become a vestigial organ.

That’s ridiculous, 16GB models of any phone shouldn’t even be getting introduced anymore. I’m gonna go with the HTC I think, even though I would prefer to have a sd card slot

Ginadagelatina

Dang i guess all upeople complaining have nothingg betta to do 8 gigs is still alot. I guess u guys need more storage for all dem porno vids.

thinmanXXS

What?

Ginadagelatina

That 8 gigs is still alot.

watkins

8 gbs is Jack shit and appalling. Considering they removed the ability to install apps to sd. Are you on drugs?

kalel33

If this was a major issue for most people to have more storage than this then the number one selling phone on Verizon wouldn’t be the Apple Iphone 4 8GB but it is. I just like having the microSD card so I can back up my phone and just move all my media from one phone to another by just changing the card.

fanbot

This is exactly why you shouldn’t go with the HTC One! At least Samsung gives you the option to expand your memory with a card, but just imagine getting stuck with a 16gb HTC phone. Even if you have 32gb on HTC’s phone, you’ll be lucky if get to use half of that.

ssl48

The 32gb HTC One comes with about 26gb of free space so I don’t see the problem.

Jason

Just root and get rid of the bloatware, problem solved.

ssl48

This phone is $50 more than the HTC One and has half the data, no thanks.

Jason

Who cares? It’s a whopping 16 GB of memory. You can get a 16 GB SD card on eBay for $8. You will be singing a different tune when you finally want to customize your HTC One and realize that HTC has locked down the bootloader and then when you are trying to follow all the instructions on how to register the phone with HTC to void warranty and use ADB to unlock the bootloader and end up bricking it (HTC phones are VERY UNFORGIVING), you will wish you had a S4 so you could just have used ODIN and un-bricked your phone in a matter of minutes. Very naive statement you made there. Android Rookie.

mikej

Amen to that, anyone who would purchase a HTC over a Sammy knows NOTHING about Android phones. People complain Sammys feel cheap, who cares, your going to put an Otterbox on it anyway. Unlocked bootloaders, easy to root, easy to fix if soft bricked, and very developer friendly (and developer supported, many more Sammy compatible custom roms comparted to HTC). Sammy is the way to go, hands down.

thegoogle

and then you realize the vast majority of users will never root their phone. his comment wasn’t naive it was true and accurate. users shouldn’t have to root just to get the memory they paid for. 8 gb of bloatware is inexcusable

Noel

To all these OEMs..How much more does it cost to put 16GB more storage on a device. Why should someone spend all that money on a very good device with only 8.82GB available for use?? It is about time these devices come with 32GB/64GB or as much as 128GB.

bearfludd55

Jus ordered my s4 I couldnt wait on tye HTC one anymors

Nick

I’m not a big government guy, but I wish a government agency would require phone/computer/hard drive/etc manufacturers to advertise amount of storage available to user. And not in fine print or spoken 100 mph at the end of the commercial. Big bold print, right alongside total capacity…”16gb memory, 8.82 available” or “1tb memory, 910 gb available”

Nolan

In Hard drives, the unusable space is file pointers. Obviously on phones the storage is used by the OS and other applications, it shouldn’t really need to be said.

V Kain

The consumers who demand to be notified how much free space is in use makes me laugh.

It’s the equivalent to complaining furnished apartment square feet isn’t accurate because of the furniture.

sean

hahaha hilarious

Randall Lind

that sucks that they use 8GB for T-mo and samsung apps wtf kind of crap is that?

Jason

Just root it and remove the bloatware, Samsung phones take a matter of minutes to root and the process is very simple. Check out the xda developers website for details.

steveb944

Bloatware galore. Glad I got plenty of space with my clean Nexus.

tommest

I just got my galaxy s4 today. It seems like there is issue with the screen auto dimm by itself, even though the brightness it all the way up and all setting to the max brightness ,and it gets really hot. Anybody experience this problem . Thnx

WhippetNYC

Re: Samsung S4’s Micro USB to Standard USB cable —

I have a technical question regarding the white Micro USB to Standard USB white cable that comes with the S4: Does it have a non-standard, internally reversed wiring that the S3’s black Micro USB to Standard USB does? I know for certain that the S3’s black cable has internally REVERSED cabling. I’m asking because i need a 2nd white Samsung S4 micro usb to standard usb cable (it only comes with one) due to my specific circumstances and they are kind of tough to come by.

If there’s any chance whatsoever that you guys have spares that are actually ORIGINAL Samsung S4 cables, I would be MOST grateful if you don’t mind sending one to me.

Back in the S3 days, I did my research and Samsung did indeed reverse 2 internal cables INSIDE their black S3 usb cable. Hence, it was imperative that one would only use ORIGINAL Samsung S3 usb cables, and NOT ordinary micro usb to standard usb cables.

Thank you so much in advance.

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