When Romney was ahead in the polls {Gallup, Rasmussen} by 5 to 6%, the democrat strategists showed no concern. I don't know how many times that I heard "Mumbles" Beckel brag that the democrat "ground game" was so superior they would squash Romney. Romney had absolutely no chance of defeating Obama. Why were they so positive of Romney's defeat? Could it be that Beckel and his cohorts already new of the massive voter fraud already in place in every battleground state?

Of course, the answer is YES. The next question is, what are the Republicans and all patriotic Americans going to do about it?

If the answer is "nothing", America is indeed well on the path to extinction. We cannot allow our highest office in the land to become captive to Chicago Ward politics.

Angry that we continue to follow the Republican Party’s elite ignorance. A party that continues to pull defeat from the jaws of victory characterized by pompous fools who fulfill the sterotype built by the left.

Frustrated that the reality of politics is this: There will be no third party capable of competing with the coalition constructed by the dems. As a result, true conservatives MUST take steps to irradicate the ignorance of the Republican Party while still adhering to the core values of our forefathers (beliefs that I discovered are considered extreme by over half of my countrymen last night, BTW).

I have no solve for exactly how to accomplish this. Only advice based on a long military career in several foreign lands for how to defeat the dems once this is accomplished.

This thought process is based on the concept of irregular warfare with twists thrown in here and there for good measure.

With that, I provide the following advice for the good of the order.

LEADERSHIP: The old crew has proven either incompotent or outdated. McConnell and Boerner must go. They represent a failed plan to defend and resist without clearly explaining their position. They are content with looking like the bad guys and face public scorn when they don’t realize how important it is to manipulate a clearly left leaning MSM. They represent the failure of the last four years to our own and obstructionists to the opposition. We’ve got to show a new face to the nation. That is the genesis of rebuilding this movement. Ryan or Cantor in the House, Rubio or Demint in the Senate.

They represent a change in a party that has been beaten soundly in the last two elections by a charlatan and his traveling circus. A fresh choice in leadership represents change you can TRULY beleive in from every angle.

GROUND GAME: It is IMPERATIVE to develop and foster an intricate ground game. It requires a MICRO-ANALYSIS of every county, every city, and every early and absentee ballot by demographic to find how how, why, and with what method they voted. Give it to the dems on their “community organizing” machine. We don’t need to reinvent that model. we MUST develop our own.

It will require an insurgent effort at the ground level. An infiltration into dem areas that we identify are weak or vulnerable to start cutting in to the blue.

This isn’t as difficult as it sounds. It requires a patient and immediate effort that starts with the post election analysis.

The COIN (insurgeny/counterinsurgency)effort would include the identification of these areas, the inflitration of the areas through churches and charitable organizations AND PARTICULARLY THROUGH EDUCATION.

I’m not talking about traditional public schools and universities. I’m talking about the new way to educate - the online universities, the trade schools and nightschools. Corporate allies need to invest and educate with the ideals of economic and fiscal conservatism.

The RNC needs to lead and develop this effort. A novice like me can see that there is a disconnect between the voting habits of catholic-dominated hispanics and baptist blacks and their actual stated values. That disconnect can be exploited if it is done slowly, deliberately, and effectively.

INFORMATION WARFARE: We are ATROCIOUS AT THIS. Dems get a simple message out early and often. They poison the well and we are left to change minds rather than get the initial impression right from jump. We constantly play defense and think we are sooooo clever when dems (as they ALWAYS do) do something stupid or illegal.

We ABSOLUTELY MUST be proactive. We must attack at EVERY OPPORTUNITY then add each fail of the dems to a trend and theme. These themes must be simple, tailored, and repetitively broadcast to each target demographic.

We must look out beyond the 5 and 10 meter targets. We’ve got to effectively interpret what the dem message is on the horizon and confront it at all levels - from the national MSM level filtering directly down to the target group level. Even I can see what the talking points of the upcoming week are by watching the Sunday talking head programs. Defense is unacceptable. Attack, attack, attack.

This is only one part of an overall information operation plan that is constant in a simple party message and what it means to each target group.

WE DON’T DO THAT WELL. WHY NOT?

I find it unbelievable that Obama has hijacked the reputation and imagery of the Party of Lincoln. COIN operations involve a very in depth understanding of cultural idocyncracies and how best to exploit them to our advantage. It’s not a “wool-over-the-eyes” approach or a “free shit” approach like the dems sell. THAT ALWAYS COMES UP SHORT.

It’s a sell based on how it effects each target group and what it means to them. If it’s done right, I am CONFIDENT that the tenets of conservatism sell themselves.

In Civil Miltary Operations, assistance in areas that seem unrelated builds trust in the agency. Granted, there’s a fine line between assistance and the giving of free shit but, the special operations forces walk that line well. It can be done. Community outreach in areas that we identify, in ways that we haven’t before can build a larger tent without sacrificing our beliefs.

The military has been doing this in third world countries for years. We’ve been more successful in some areas, less successful in others. In the United States third world strongholds of the Democratic Party,I am confident that it can be done.

This is, by far, not the only avenue we’ve got to pursue in order to turn the tide.

But, if we are going to war, the RNC must look to the military to rediscover and reorganize. The number-crunching beancounters have their place in the organization but, on their best days, they can only identify who will and won’t vote Republican.

This is a “Hearts and Minds” effort.

It requires a new way to think about the political battlefield.

Rangers Lead the Way.

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posted on 11/09/2012 12:28:47 PM PST
by military cop
(I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)

Listening to descriptions of how Democrats got out their ground game with superior ability to bring those to the polls who normally would never go by the commentators on Fox election night..made me realize..what they actually have done is track names that HAVE NOT VOTED IN MANY, MANY elections cycles....and vote them.

A well-funded project, county-by-county..to examine the names signed in at at the polls..and going out to find those individuals..youll find they were never physically at he polls..or they themselves never filled out the absentee ballot....or their names in the death registers.

the core of our challenge is to clean up the precincts.

We are continuing to give permission for our own dienfranchisement by not doing so.

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posted on 11/09/2012 12:30:54 PM PST
by mo
(If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)

Not to undermine Military Cop’s posting, but I have an additional theory, based entirely on gut, with no proof whatsoever: The Pollsters were paid by DNC to show Romney ahead so he wouldn’t campaign harder, and would campaign in states where he was likely to loose.

Sun Tzu taught to encourage your opponent waste his efforts and to mislead him to thinking he has the upper hand, then let him waste his energies for nothing.

When Bush had office 2000-2007 and we had 110% turnout in Philly and open fraud in St. Louis and Chicago , Miami has always been as fraudulent as Chicago ... What did he do? Did we prosecute everyone involved? Anyone involved?

Illinois could easily be republican territory as could Ohio , PA and Florida should be locked up if we prosecute 10-20,000 NYers that vote in both places illegally... putting grandma Smith in jail for 10-20 for a felony works for me.

We need to get loud about the fraud that is out in the open and demand a fix... I’ll go to jail for civil disobedience if need be..

We either clean up the voter lists and legitimize the voting process or we can forget about ever winning another election. And we MUST get the military voting problem straightened out. What an insult to our troops.

Its anecdotal, but I’ve been told that part of their ground game was to have people vote early and then go to their polling places and stand in line, keeping the line artificially large to discourage others from voting on lunch hours and immediately after work.

This was the reason Michelle Obama was out telling everyone to not let anyone push you out of line. Interesting thought and not technically illegal.

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posted on 11/09/2012 12:37:16 PM PST
by dannyboy72a
(the circuit is closing)

How the Democrats get out the vote? Control the voting machines. If your guys are in charge of voting machines you can make your turn out any number you need!!!! Stop the early voting, Stop provisional ballots, and by all means if the counting machine can’t read the ballot it is garbage!!! No people looking at ballots trying to determine how the voter wanted to vote... Also verify the status of the voter before he votes!!!

Listening to descriptions of how Democrats got out their ground game with superior ability to bring those to the polls who normally would never go
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That’s a “polite” way of saying they go into the assisted living/retirement/rehab/alzheimers care centers with absentee ballots prefilled for Obama and get people that cannot even tell you their names most days to sign the ballots presented.

Their “ground game” is MUCH better in urban areas where it is easy to get “Holders people” to ride a bus/train from one polling station to the next...

I’ve never been for a national id but this requires it to ensure one person one vote.

The only strategy that wins is one fought on multiple fronts. I beleive the Hearts and Minds approach is one of those but, a very important part.

That’s part of the problem with the RNC, they think in terms of a singular plan of attack. They need to assault on all fronts. They need a detailed and complete plan from January of 2013 to election day.

Pouting and wringing hands and singing the “game over” death knell is wasted effort and does nothing to turn the tide....

AND THE TIDE CAN BE TURNED!

How in the hell can so many people fall for the checkmate attitude when TWO SHORT YEARS AGO, conservatives had the dems on the ropes???

RANGER UP, BOYS AND GIRLS.

KNOCK OFF THE PITY PARTY, MOVE OUT AND DRAW FIRE.

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posted on 11/09/2012 12:41:49 PM PST
by military cop
(I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)

We also need ALL states that have Republican legislatures to pass bills ENFORCING ID at the polls. It needs to be the first piece of legislation in EVERY Republican-lead state. This would allow plenty of time for them to frame legislation that is “turnover proof”.

Pennsylvania...the state I’m in...has the law, but were told not to enforce it this election. Wonder how those Philly areas would have turned out if they were required to show ID.

And we MUST get the military voting problem straightened out. What an insult to our troops.
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This has been a MAJOR problem since at least 2000 ... I can’t see why we can’t have simple rules regarding the prompt delivery to the troops and from the troops back to their polling places...and maybe a mandatory offering of a absentee ballot request to all troops ..

ABSENTEE BALLOTS MUST BE COUNTED PRIOR TO THE ELECTION and not afterwards after a winner has been announced... with the vote totals to be revealed at the same time as the election day polling.

I understand the anger and frustration but your post is based on absolutely nothing but “gut”. You are flailing out for someone to do something based on your supposed ability to read beckel’s mind. we need evidence and specifics.

It is ENTIRELY possible that we DID NOT re-elect Obama. As each story is posted about serious voter fraud - drip, drip, drip - it is becoming more and more obvious that the election was stolen instead of won.

The saddest thing of all is that our elected leaders who CLAIM to be CONSERVATIVE will brush all this off and not do a single thing about it. The Republican Party should SUE each and every voting district where Obama received 99%-100%-108% of the vote. Surely there are TRUE PATRIOT lawyers who would take up this gauntlet pro bono.

I will watch and wait to see if anything is done - but I must confess my expectations are low. Like many others, the criminal element of the Democrat party has tried us and pushed us, and found us to be a soft target. Who can blame them for taking advantage of an adversary who refuses to fight back from even the most blatant provocation!?!

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posted on 11/09/2012 12:45:51 PM PST
by LTC.Ret
(You'd think I would know better than to volunteer!!! www.sendmetocongress.us)

1) Less American national sovereignty..
2) a World Givernment based on socialism..
3) A mass public that can be MILKed like farm animals..
4) An ignorant public totally brain washed toward socialism..
5) An elite that farms and culls the public like wolves..
6) Women groomed to be addicted to their feelings and emotions..
7) Men that are cowards afraid of the givernment..

There are no unrelated areas. I have been trying to tell conservatives, including GOP party operatives for years that one way the Dems beat us is that they co-opt every group out there from Lamaze to FFA. There are undeclared political operatives as real members of every group in every community. They make friends, become trusted,ferret out which leftist agendas are going to appeal to each group (GW, animal rights, environmental controls, tax the rich, free child care, medical care, et al)and then work to make sure the members know the position of whichever Democrat candidate from the lowest to the POTUS on that issue. They stand up at every meeting and announce fundraisers and GOTV actions people are encouraged to participate in. They use these memberships to form other ad hoc groups to support other agenda items. They rail on any position advocated by the right, and if they see anyone beginning to think for themselves, they sic a *mentor* on them, pronto, to make sure any information the potential dissenter has come across is demeaned as *conservative rhetoric*.

They also compile the various illegalities committed by anyone in the group. This is used as a last resort or as leverage in the event of a defection.

This is 24/7/365 and it is in addition to their jobs, their families and their recreation. These operatives do work. Many have professional degrees. Many own their own businesses and they can also then use employment as a recruiting tool.

They will run for any office available, at any time. The attitude is that no position is too small to not be of use.

It is a myth that all Democrats are spongers. Many, many are comfortable to wealthy or middle class. They BELIEVE in their cause. They walk their talk. And they make sure they are out there among the folks who are struggling in order to support them and earn their trust.

A major contributor to any possible voter fraud is the electronic voting machine. No paper ballot, no way to go back and verify accurancy after the election. He who controls the voting system controls the outcome of the election.

Voter ID is another big issue, makes you wonder why the administration was so upset about voter ID in some states, but not in others.

We should take care to remember though that the Gallup and Rasmussen polls were the outliers. Most other polls were much closer to the mark. And even Gallup and Rasmussen tightened up considerably ahead of the election. In the end, the election results actually very closely matched the polling averages.

I’m not telling you this is going to be easy or an overnight solve. But we’ve run into the same types of operatives at local and family levels overseas as well and we turn the tide by tailoring the message and making it repetetive.

I’m not even saying this is the only or exact way to get the pendulum swinging in the other direction. But consider this:

Special operations forces have been doing this very thing in the third world for over 70 years. an OVERWHELMING majority of retired SOF are Reagan Republicans and have been selling the concepts of conservatism to those who have never comprehended them for decades.

Who better than the RNC to hire to consult in planning for a Hearts and Minds operation in vulnerable blue areas?

This is not a plan to compromise our values to create a larger tent. Its a plan to educate values that will sell themselves to create a larger tent.

RLTW

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posted on 11/09/2012 1:12:52 PM PST
by military cop
(I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)

The other day I watched a related story, one segment showed these folks going to senior homes/centers and busing them to early-voting outlets... where I'm sure there were plenty of pre-voted ballots available...

...all meant to make those "fragile" voters experience less complicated/time consuming of course.

Not to grab this problem by the horns and deal with it...give permission for us to remain disenfranchised.

Direct disenfranchisement refers to actions that explicitly prevent people from voting or having their votes counted, as opposed to indirect techniques, which attempt to prevent peoples votes from having an impact on political outcomes (e.g., gerrymandering, ballot box stuffing, stripping elected officials of their powers).

I know that the turnout locally was way, way ahead of 2008. There were long, long lines for early voting, and also on election day, yet we are told that the turnout was less than in 2008. There needs to be a effort in each state to document the number of people who signed in to vote and the actual count. I have a feeling that votes disappeared, and in some cases there were more votes than signatures.

We kept hearing that poll workers were signing voter rolls, with the excuse that they were just signing for absentee voters, whose ballots had been received.

It seems that an absentee stamp in the space for the voter's signature, would have been easier, and could have been done before election day. Now you can't tell whether the voter actually showed up at the polls, was absentee, or someone voted for them.

I am very concerned that people who never have voted, voted on election day, and the dead voted for Obama from beyond the grave.

To paraphrase Stalin, It's not who votes, how they vote, but who counts the votes, that matters.

We need to return to a policy in ALL states of ONE LEGAL VOTER, ONE VOTE. end early voting, e-mail voting, registrating when you vote, multiple absentee ballots sent to one address and used at other addresses, require photo voter ID and not a library card that asks for no proof of who you are or where you live and they then put your picture on it and you can use it for ID to vote. No electronic tabulating or recording of ballots that are not marked by the voter and retained by the voting machine, if the ballots are discovered in the trunk of someone’s car they will not be counted. Counties and states should be responsible for counting and tabulating the vote in their state with full access by all concerned parties and hard copies kept of everything. We should keep a close watch on the absentee voting as well and absolutly gurantee that military ballots are sent out in a timely fashion and are correct and can br received back in time to be counted. The way things are going the results of turnout and the vote total will be announced and they may never even be any relation to what happend and the results announced. If we can’t insure an honest election nothing else we do will matter.

I have no faith in our national federal election results. The NYU Brennan Justice Center is against Voter ID or anything else we do to insure honest elections, their main mantra is disenfranchisement, I’m disenfranchised when my vote only counts .95%. The last line of one of their papers makes my point “VOTER ID only makes a difference in the close elections anyway”. We just had a close election and the deciding votes in the swing states were very close, not to mention many House and Senate seats. The democrats cheat and there ground game is to cheat and because they cheat the believe they are entitled to the close elections.

I wonder, as you are a self professed reformed lib,
is there any language available to make a lib live up to
what they say they are ‘for’? In that I mean, if they
rant about the blood for oil wars and yet, the last 4 years have been silent, is there a way to force their hand so to say? To flush out the hypocrisy at the heart of it all?

I imagine they will be just as quiet the next 4 years and
it really ticks me off that it’s overlooked.

The Republican Party should SUE each and every voting district where Obama received 99%-100%-108% of the vote. Surely there are TRUE PATRIOT lawyers who would take up this gauntlet pro bono.
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That won’t happen ,,, who owns the ACLU? ,,, Who will the bar sanction? Who will lose their licenses?

This has to be brought by WE THE PEOPLE... and get it in peoples faces on a daily basis...

Called Gov. Perry’s office as well as his campaign office. Suggested that he publicly challenge the governors of Colorado, Ohio, etc., to investigate and clean up their voter fraud because Texas citizens are tired of bearing the consequences of malfeasance in other states.

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posted on 11/09/2012 4:46:36 PM PST
by LTC.Ret
(You'd think I would know better than to volunteer!!! www.sendmetocongress.us)

From my experience, they are capable of justifying anything “because of the intentions” involved.

SO, if you innocently mention Bush’s war record, they will spit and hiss about *war for oil*, *Halliburton* and *racism* both because of a white CiC against SE Asians and supposedly all blacks on the *front*. 0 *inherited Bush’s war*, while simultaneously *trying to end it* out of compassion for all involved. They would then start citing PTSD stats, etc and weep for the *poor soldiers*. 0 gets a pass on *war for oil* because he is known to hate all fossil fuel. 0 cannot be racist, by definition. *Racist* is a political term and only applies to those who have been “historically advantaged”. Mention that 0 is obviously advantaged and they can conjure his skin color. If you cite poor whites from the South, an historically disadvantaged group, you’ll get more spit and hiss about Neanderthal Christians incapable of taking advantage of their own privilege and incapable of understanding their own best interests and racist, in the bargain.

All I ever succeeded in doing was getting everyone po’d at me for my *reactionary* and *stupid* attempts at compare and contrast. I cannot describe the chilling contempt in which they hold Christians, although, if told someone they accept is a Christian, they will segue quickly to “Oh, they are one of the good Christians”. Meaning Progressive, of course.

The intention of all Progressives is so pure, they cannot possibly be capable of hypocrisy. Republicans, however, are held to a higher standard. No intention of any Republican can be as presented. The best they can do is allow that a Republican might believe they have good intentions, but, by definition, that is impossible.

Any lapse by a Progressive can get them defined as a closet Republican. I have been told by self-identified socialists that 0 is a conservative because he didn’t go far enough in rule by fiat.

Short answer is: no way I know. Relativism and subjectivism are operative to the point where they simply cannot respond to a logical argument.

I have concluded they want all capitalists and Christians dead and will bring down the entire world to accomplish that. For the wealthy ones, they pretend to hate their wealth, but actually, they just don’t think they can be impoverished as long as they support the radicals and are radical, themselves.

CLEAN UP THE VOTE — From voting machines that switch to bus-loads of out-of-state voters to universal voter ID (fingers in ink?) to dead and/or illegals on the rolls — ALL must be cleaned up. NOW! Start today and do NOT stop. If this does not reach the level of a conservative Jihad, then conservatives deserve their lonely place in the wilderness.

EDUCATE — I spent an hour trying to describe the Constitution to my daughter, who is old enough to have learned this stuff decades ago. She had no clue what our founding document had to say. Home-schooled kids are “getting it” but public school kids get nothing and never have. But what do you expect when Bill Ayers is teaching our teachers?

DISSEMINATE — The libs have the entire major media complex on their side, while the best we can do is the oft-squishy Fox network. Wrong. Get some rich conservatives like Adelson or the Koch brothers to throw their financial weight behind a REAL conservative outlet. Don’t we deserve a conservative commentator as wild-eyed (and even ridiculous) as Chris Matthews or Crazy Ed Shultz? We own radio but TV is still a vast wasteland.

REGROUP — The GOP Elite has failed us for the last time. They dissed the Tea Party and conservatives in general, and force-fed us John McCain and Mitt Romney. And where has it gotten us? Say what you like about Sarah Palin, but she still draws big crowds. Give us REAL conservatives and TO HELL with that squishy “moderate is best” crap. Time for a new party.

I’m still too pissed about the election results to think calmly, so I apologize for ranting. But I’ll probably be ranting for another month or so. Dammit.

The Rats are superior at GOTV (get out the vote) efforts, most importantly on election day. This is because they have access to a wide pool of free or low cost labor: the unemployed, the menially employed, and union thugs who are paid by their unions to work GOTV.

They are most important on election day, the last chance to vote. The idea is to identify people who are inclined to vote for your candidate, determine the ones who have not voted yet, then have someone contact them and "encourage" them to vote.

The Rats have, and always will have, an advantage over the R's in GOTV. The best the R's can do is stay somewhat competitive. Check out the "orca" keyword for several threads about the GOP's failure at GOTV this election.

After my own politics began changing and even for quite some time after that change, I still would interact w/these types. I ended up with a bleeding ulcer. Literally.

Today, I only encounter them as clients/customers. The ulcer was repaired, so now I just get these severe headaches from suppressing my rage. In 2008, I told one that every Democrat owed the entire country an apology for voting for 0. Her response was that she was a Democrat and the customer, so I couldn’t speak to her like that.

We added up what she spent with us over a year and decided it wasn’t worth it. But she keeps coming back. We even try to annoy her enough so she will leave, but she hasn’t. My husband is much better than I at keeping things superficial, so I let him deal w/her.

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