9-year-old girl taken to hospital and dog destroyed after attack in Christchurch

A NINE-year-old girl was left needing surgery after she was mauled by a dog at a Christchurch play area.

The youngster is recovering from her injuries in hospital and the dog, described as an English Bull Terrier-type, has been destroyed with the consent of the owner.

The owner of the dog, believed to be Christchurch woman Paige Robertson, has been reported for owning a dog dangerously out of control.

Police said the animal had to be pulled away from the little girl as she stood near the Quantock Court Playground in Hunt Road, Somerford on Monday night.

Officers were called to the scene at 8.15pm and first aid was given to the youngster before she was taken by ambulance to Poole Hospital. It’s believed she was later transferred to Salisbury Hospital to have a skin graft operation.

A spokesman for Dorset Police said: “She sustained a serious bite injury to her ankle.
“The dog was seized by police and later put to sleep. A police investigation into the circumstances of the attack is ongoing.

“The owner of the dog, a 20-year-old Christchurch woman, has been reported for owning a dog dangerously out of control.”

Katie King, who lives close to the family of the young schoolgirl, said the dog – who it is believed was called Dylan - was being walked by Paige’s 16-year-old niece before the animal attacked.

“The little girl has to have a skin graft because she was injured on her leg, ankle and finger,” she said.

“It’s really shocking and upsetting to hear about. The dog’s already been destroyed – I’ve heard the owner had only had it for a month.”

A friend of the family, who asked not to be named, said: “The girl would never have gone near a dog.

“We all know she’s afraid of them. I’m glad the dog has been destroyed. We’re all so upset about it.”

Following the incident, Paige took to Facebook to apologise to the young victim.

She said: “To the child and the parents that was attacked by the dog last night. I am deeply sorry and the dog has been signed to the police to be destroyed. I hope the girl is ok.”

It has been claimed on social media that Paige’s niece intervened in the attack to try and protect the nine-year-old girl and suffered a bruised and sore leg.

woodseh wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.

Oh well QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody awful things

[quote][p][bold]woodseh[/bold] wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.[/p][/quote]Oh well QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody awful thingsmisplacedspaniard

woodseh wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.

It's actually not a staffie, it's more like an English bull terrier. He was called Dylan. They own a staffie too but Dylan isn't a staffie. I don't know the owner but if you look at the Echo comments you can see the owner post and her profile is open. Loads of pictures of Dylan and heated discussions!

[quote][p][bold]woodseh[/bold] wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.[/p][/quote]It's actually not a staffie, it's more like an English bull terrier. He was called Dylan. They own a staffie too but Dylan isn't a staffie. I don't know the owner but if you look at the Echo comments you can see the owner post and her profile is open. Loads of pictures of Dylan and heated discussions!iseestupidpeople

woodseh wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.

At least the echo got the fact it wa a dog right. So 1 point for that.

I was once attacked by a tiger in baiter park that escaped from a circus.
Back in the late 70's when circuses had things other than Ukrainian acrobats.

[quote][p][bold]woodseh[/bold] wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.[/p][/quote]At least the echo got the fact it wa a dog right. So 1 point for that.
I was once attacked by a tiger in baiter park that escaped from a circus.
Back in the late 70's when circuses had things other than Ukrainian acrobats.Sir Beachy Head

Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.

Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.bella99

woodseh wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.

It's actually not a staffie, it's more like an English bull terrier. He was called Dylan. They own a staffie too but Dylan isn't a staffie. I don't know the owner but if you look at the Echo comments you can see the owner post and her profile is open. Loads of pictures of Dylan and heated discussions!

I've just had a nose at her Facebook pics and yes it is an English Bull Terrier. Princess Anne had one that bit a girl in a London park.

[quote][p][bold]iseestupidpeople[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]woodseh[/bold] wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.[/p][/quote]It's actually not a staffie, it's more like an English bull terrier. He was called Dylan. They own a staffie too but Dylan isn't a staffie. I don't know the owner but if you look at the Echo comments you can see the owner post and her profile is open. Loads of pictures of Dylan and heated discussions![/p][/quote]I've just had a nose at her Facebook pics and yes it is an English Bull Terrier. Princess Anne had one that bit a girl in a London park.Sir Beachy Head

woodseh wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.

Oh well QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody awful things

For all I care it could have been a Chihuahua. The fact is there's a little girl who's hurt and is likely to be terrified of dogs for the rest of her life. Add extremely upset family and friends and we've got yet another pig's ear of an incident.

[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]woodseh[/bold] wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.[/p][/quote]Oh well QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody awful things[/p][/quote]For all I care it could have been a Chihuahua. The fact is there's a little girl who's hurt and is likely to be terrified of dogs for the rest of her life. Add extremely upset family and friends and we've got yet another pig's ear of an incident.breamoreboy

bella99 wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.

[quote][p][bold]bella99[/bold] wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.[/p][/quote]http://www.mirror.co
.uk/news/uk-news/100
-dog-attacks-every-w
eek-2345738scrumpyjack

All these idiots on here saying "its a dangerous breed" thats utter ****! a dog is like a child, you can raise a president or a serial killer! its entirely down to the owner in the case of 90-95% of breeds! i sincerely hope the little girl makes a full recovery but dont blame an abused animal for the results of its owner!!!

All these idiots on here saying "its a dangerous breed" thats utter ****! a dog is like a child, you can raise a president or a serial killer! its entirely down to the owner in the case of 90-95% of breeds! i sincerely hope the little girl makes a full recovery but dont blame an abused animal for the results of its owner!!!fuzzyg66

bella99 wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.

Because it usually is, or a bull terrier type. I'm certainly not saying the breed is bad though, staffies can certainly be lovely family dogs, it's the fact these dogs 'look' aggressive that they are usually owned by people as status symbols. Sadly they usually WANT the dogs to be aggressive and it's these ones that make the headlines because they go on to bite someone. Of course any dog is capable of biting but there are many breeds who are less likely to turn aggressive or be owned as a status symbol, hence we don't read so much about that breed. You probably won't see some chav walking around with a bichon. Sadly looking into poor Dylan here he had only be owned for a few months by this family, it sounds like they didn't know too much about him. The owner is only 20 and allowed her 16 year old niece out with the dog which is when the attack happened. It very much sounds like Dylan didn't stand much chance in life. I wish it was law to register dogs and hold a permit to own one. As a responsible dog owner I'd happily pay for one!

[quote][p][bold]bella99[/bold] wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.[/p][/quote]Because it usually is, or a bull terrier type. I'm certainly not saying the breed is bad though, staffies can certainly be lovely family dogs, it's the fact these dogs 'look' aggressive that they are usually owned by people as status symbols. Sadly they usually WANT the dogs to be aggressive and it's these ones that make the headlines because they go on to bite someone. Of course any dog is capable of biting but there are many breeds who are less likely to turn aggressive or be owned as a status symbol, hence we don't read so much about that breed. You probably won't see some chav walking around with a bichon. Sadly looking into poor Dylan here he had only be owned for a few months by this family, it sounds like they didn't know too much about him. The owner is only 20 and allowed her 16 year old niece out with the dog which is when the attack happened. It very much sounds like Dylan didn't stand much chance in life. I wish it was law to register dogs and hold a permit to own one. As a responsible dog owner I'd happily pay for one!iseestupidpeople

There's nothing excessively dangerous about this type of dog assuming they are properly looked after and trained. The problem is that if they are, then they can be unpredictable and dangerous, more so than a lot of other types. Unfortunately, a lot of the sort of people who won't bother training their dog properly are precisely the sort of people who want them in the first place. I know several people with Staffies and other Bull Terrier type dogs, and they are the soppiest and most well behaved animals you could wish to meet. Unlike those nasty rat on a string dogs that spend the whole time yapping and snarling at anything that moves!

There's nothing excessively dangerous about this type of dog assuming they are properly looked after and trained. The problem is that if they are, then they can be unpredictable and dangerous, more so than a lot of other types. Unfortunately, a lot of the sort of people who won't bother training their dog properly are precisely the sort of people who want them in the first place. I know several people with Staffies and other Bull Terrier type dogs, and they are the soppiest and most well behaved animals you could wish to meet. Unlike those nasty rat on a string dogs that spend the whole time yapping and snarling at anything that moves!speedy231278

The owner should have been put down not the dog. When I have met vicious dogs when I am taking my lovely dog for a walk and they have a go at my dog they usually say "The dog has never done that before" utter tosh - if your dog acts aggressively it should be muzzled. I have had a English Bull Terrier and a Staffordshire Bull terrier who were both lovely affectionate animals but as usual it is how the dog has been brought up that is the problem............ hope the little girl recovers and I take it her mother/father were with the child at the time of the attack?

The owner should have been put down not the dog. When I have met vicious dogs when I am taking my lovely dog for a walk and they have a go at my dog they usually say "The dog has never done that before" utter tosh - if your dog acts aggressively it should be muzzled. I have had a English Bull Terrier and a Staffordshire Bull terrier who were both lovely affectionate animals but as usual it is how the dog has been brought up that is the problem............ hope the little girl recovers and I take it her mother/father were with the child at the time of the attack?suzigirl

This is terribly sad. We should all concentrate our thoughts to wish this little girl a speedy recovery and hope that this incident does not affect the rest of her life too much. I am sure that the scars of such things are as deep mentally as they are physically. Our thoughts should all be with her right now. We can leave the politics and legalities of Dog Ownership for another time – Although that is clearly something that needs resolving as a social priority.....Irrelev
ant if you are a dog lover (which I am) or not.... These events must be stopped from continuing.

This is terribly sad. We should all concentrate our thoughts to wish this little girl a speedy recovery and hope that this incident does not affect the rest of her life too much. I am sure that the scars of such things are as deep mentally as they are physically. Our thoughts should all be with her right now. We can leave the politics and legalities of Dog Ownership for another time – Although that is clearly something that needs resolving as a social priority.....Irrelev
ant if you are a dog lover (which I am) or not.... These events must be stopped from continuing.Ivan Opinion

As it says the owner had only had it a month, where did it come from in the first place? If it came from a rescue then serious questions need to be asked about their assessment procedures. If the owner took it on knowing it's temperament then, yes, she is at fault but it may well be she had no idea.
Wishing the young lady a speedy recovery xxx

As it says the owner had only had it a month, where did it come from in the first place? If it came from a rescue then serious questions need to be asked about their assessment procedures. If the owner took it on knowing it's temperament then, yes, she is at fault but it may well be she had no idea.
Wishing the young lady a speedy recovery xxxPasiphae

A cyclist was sent to prison for injuring a child on the crossing at Branksome Chine so should the owner of the dog receive a custodial sentence because they allowed their dog to attack and seriously injure a child?

Especially as you are much more likely to be bitten by a dog and seriously injured than if run into by a cyclist.

A cyclist was sent to prison for injuring a child on the crossing at Branksome Chine so should the owner of the dog receive a custodial sentence because they allowed their dog to attack and seriously injure a child?
Especially as you are much more likely to be bitten by a dog and seriously injured than if run into by a cyclist.The-Bleeding-Obvious

The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
A cyclist was sent to prison for injuring a child on the crossing at Branksome Chine so should the owner of the dog receive a custodial sentence because they allowed their dog to attack and seriously injure a child?

Especially as you are much more likely to be bitten by a dog and seriously injured than if run into by a cyclist.

I think you'll find the HUGE difference is the cyclist you are referring to left the scene without a care to the little injured girl, this is a case of a rescue dog doing what it does naturally if not brought up properly. What a really stupid comment to make!

[quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote:
A cyclist was sent to prison for injuring a child on the crossing at Branksome Chine so should the owner of the dog receive a custodial sentence because they allowed their dog to attack and seriously injure a child?
Especially as you are much more likely to be bitten by a dog and seriously injured than if run into by a cyclist.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find the HUGE difference is the cyclist you are referring to left the scene without a care to the little injured girl, this is a case of a rescue dog doing what it does naturally if not brought up properly. What a really stupid comment to make!iseestupidpeople

The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
A cyclist was sent to prison for injuring a child on the crossing at Branksome Chine so should the owner of the dog receive a custodial sentence because they allowed their dog to attack and seriously injure a child?

Especially as you are much more likely to be bitten by a dog and seriously injured than if run into by a cyclist.

I think you'll find the HUGE difference is the cyclist you are referring to left the scene without a care to the little injured girl, this is a case of a rescue dog doing what it does naturally if not brought up properly. What a really stupid comment to make!

All the more reason to keep it under control then. I believe the cyclist did stop and then left the scene in the belief that the child was not seriously injured but when the injuries turned out to be more serious than first thought he reported to the police.
You are almost 4 times more likely to be killed by a dog than a cyclist.
'iseestupidpeople'..
.. take look at yourself.

[quote][p][bold]iseestupidpeople[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote:
A cyclist was sent to prison for injuring a child on the crossing at Branksome Chine so should the owner of the dog receive a custodial sentence because they allowed their dog to attack and seriously injure a child?
Especially as you are much more likely to be bitten by a dog and seriously injured than if run into by a cyclist.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find the HUGE difference is the cyclist you are referring to left the scene without a care to the little injured girl, this is a case of a rescue dog doing what it does naturally if not brought up properly. What a really stupid comment to make![/p][/quote]All the more reason to keep it under control then. I believe the cyclist did stop and then left the scene in the belief that the child was not seriously injured but when the injuries turned out to be more serious than first thought he reported to the police.
You are almost 4 times more likely to be killed by a dog than a cyclist.
'iseestupidpeople'..
.. take look at yourself.The-Bleeding-Obvious

woodseh wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.

Oh well QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody awful things

QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody stupid comment.

[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]woodseh[/bold] wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.[/p][/quote]Oh well QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody awful things[/p][/quote]QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody stupid comment.mikeymagic

These dogs have been banned in Germany for years because they are so notorious for attacks on children. I guess The UKIP vote stops us doing anything the Germans do out of pig headedness though.
And incidentally, there wouldn't be all these children's play areas everywhere if Europe hadn't insisted on a ratio of children to play areas for councils.

These dogs have been banned in Germany for years because they are so notorious for attacks on children. I guess The UKIP vote stops us doing anything the Germans do out of pig headedness though.
And incidentally, there wouldn't be all these children's play areas everywhere if Europe hadn't insisted on a ratio of children to play areas for councils.ashleycross

susi.m wrote:
I can barely afford to feed myself these days let alone a dog. They obviously have more disposable income on Somerford Estate than I do.

Theres's always a chicken & mushroom pot noodle waiting for you at my place susi. But please bring your own spoon.

[quote][p][bold]susi.m[/bold] wrote:
I can barely afford to feed myself these days let alone a dog. They obviously have more disposable income on Somerford Estate than I do.[/p][/quote]Theres's always a chicken & mushroom pot noodle waiting for you at my place susi. But please bring your own spoon.Sir Beachy Head

ashleycross wrote:
These dogs have been banned in Germany for years because they are so notorious for attacks on children. I guess The UKIP vote stops us doing anything the Germans do out of pig headedness though.
And incidentally, there wouldn't be all these children's play areas everywhere if Europe hadn't insisted on a ratio of children to play areas for councils.

I have family in Scandinavia and there a lot more children's play areas around but there's never any problems. Only in England are play areas a magnet for gangs and people who can't control their dogs - the problem isn't space for children to play it's an antisocial idiots.

[quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote:
These dogs have been banned in Germany for years because they are so notorious for attacks on children. I guess The UKIP vote stops us doing anything the Germans do out of pig headedness though.
And incidentally, there wouldn't be all these children's play areas everywhere if Europe hadn't insisted on a ratio of children to play areas for councils.[/p][/quote]I have family in Scandinavia and there a lot more children's play areas around but there's never any problems. Only in England are play areas a magnet for gangs and people who can't control their dogs - the problem isn't space for children to play it's an antisocial idiots.rozmister

bella99 wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.

Because it usually is, or a bull terrier type. I'm certainly not saying the breed is bad though, staffies can certainly be lovely family dogs, it's the fact these dogs 'look' aggressive that they are usually owned by people as status symbols. Sadly they usually WANT the dogs to be aggressive and it's these ones that make the headlines because they go on to bite someone. Of course any dog is capable of biting but there are many breeds who are less likely to turn aggressive or be owned as a status symbol, hence we don't read so much about that breed. You probably won't see some chav walking around with a bichon. Sadly looking into poor Dylan here he had only be owned for a few months by this family, it sounds like they didn't know too much about him. The owner is only 20 and allowed her 16 year old niece out with the dog which is when the attack happened. It very much sounds like Dylan didn't stand much chance in life. I wish it was law to register dogs and hold a permit to own one. As a responsible dog owner I'd happily pay for one!

Nail on head.

[quote][p][bold]iseestupidpeople[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bella99[/bold] wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.[/p][/quote]Because it usually is, or a bull terrier type. I'm certainly not saying the breed is bad though, staffies can certainly be lovely family dogs, it's the fact these dogs 'look' aggressive that they are usually owned by people as status symbols. Sadly they usually WANT the dogs to be aggressive and it's these ones that make the headlines because they go on to bite someone. Of course any dog is capable of biting but there are many breeds who are less likely to turn aggressive or be owned as a status symbol, hence we don't read so much about that breed. You probably won't see some chav walking around with a bichon. Sadly looking into poor Dylan here he had only be owned for a few months by this family, it sounds like they didn't know too much about him. The owner is only 20 and allowed her 16 year old niece out with the dog which is when the attack happened. It very much sounds like Dylan didn't stand much chance in life. I wish it was law to register dogs and hold a permit to own one. As a responsible dog owner I'd happily pay for one![/p][/quote]Nail on head.scrumpyjack

Hope the girl is ok and the surgery goes well. Grafting is usually very good these days, so hopefully won't be left with any permanent scarring. Things could have been worse for her, it could have been one of the ultra violent New Forest Donkeys, haven't heard about them for a while. Have the stupid humans learnt their lessons!

Hope the girl is ok and the surgery goes well. Grafting is usually very good these days, so hopefully won't be left with any permanent scarring. Things could have been worse for her, it could have been one of the ultra violent New Forest Donkeys, haven't heard about them for a while. Have the stupid humans learnt their lessons!da200560

Loyal2AFCB wrote:
For what purpose were bull terrriers of various varietys bred? I would be interested to know.

Biting bulls usually tied to posts for 'sport' in ye old days.

Heres some info from Wikipedia..

Early in the mid-19th century the "Bull and Terrier" breeds were developed to satisfy the needs for vermin control and animal-based blood sports. The "Bull and Terriers" were based on the Old English Bulldog (now extinct) and one or more of Old English Terrier and "Black and tan terrier", now known as Manchester Terrier. This new breed combined the speed and dexterity of lightly built terriers with the dour tenacity of the Bulldog, which was a poor performer in most combat situations, having been bred almost exclusively for fighting bulls and bears tied to a post. Many breeders began to breed bulldogs with terriers, arguing that such a mixture enhances the quality of fighting. Despite the fact that a cross between a bulldog and a terrier was of high value, very little or nothing was done to preserve the breed in its original form. Due to the lack of breed standards—breeding was for performance, not appearance—the "Bull and Terrier" eventually divided into the ancestors of "Bull Terriers" and "Staffordshire Bull Terriers", both smaller and easier to handle than the progenitor.

[quote][p][bold]Loyal2AFCB[/bold] wrote:
For what purpose were bull terrriers of various varietys bred? I would be interested to know.[/p][/quote]Biting bulls usually tied to posts for 'sport' in ye old days.
Heres some info from Wikipedia..
Early in the mid-19th century the "Bull and Terrier" breeds were developed to satisfy the needs for vermin control and animal-based blood sports. The "Bull and Terriers" were based on the Old English Bulldog (now extinct) and one or more of Old English Terrier and "Black and tan terrier", now known as Manchester Terrier. This new breed combined the speed and dexterity of lightly built terriers with the dour tenacity of the Bulldog, which was a poor performer in most combat situations, having been bred almost exclusively for fighting bulls and bears tied to a post. Many breeders began to breed bulldogs with terriers, arguing that such a mixture enhances the quality of fighting. Despite the fact that a cross between a bulldog and a terrier was of high value, very little or nothing was done to preserve the breed in its original form. Due to the lack of breed standards—breeding was for performance, not appearance—the "Bull and Terrier" eventually divided into the ancestors of "Bull Terriers" and "Staffordshire Bull Terriers", both smaller and easier to handle than the progenitor.Sir Beachy Head

Loyal2AFCB wrote:
For what purpose were bull terrriers of various varietys bred? I would be interested to know.

Biting bulls usually tied to posts for 'sport' in ye old days.

Heres some info from Wikipedia..

Early in the mid-19th century the &quot;Bull and Terrier" breeds were developed to satisfy the needs for vermin control and animal-based blood sports. The "Bull and Terriers" were based on the Old English Bulldog (now extinct) and one or more of Old English Terrier and "Black and tan terrier", now known as Manchester Terrier. This new breed combined the speed and dexterity of lightly built terriers with the dour tenacity of the Bulldog, which was a poor performer in most combat situations, having been bred almost exclusively for fighting bulls and bears tied to a post. Many breeders began to breed bulldogs with terriers, arguing that such a mixture enhances the quality of fighting. Despite the fact that a cross between a bulldog and a terrier was of high value, very little or nothing was done to preserve the breed in its original form. Due to the lack of breed standards—breeding was for performance, not appearance—the "Bull and Terrier" eventually divided into the ancestors of "Bull Terriers" and "Staffordshire Bull Terriers", both smaller and easier to handle than the progenitor.

I rest my case.

[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Loyal2AFCB[/bold] wrote:
For what purpose were bull terrriers of various varietys bred? I would be interested to know.[/p][/quote]Biting bulls usually tied to posts for 'sport' in ye old days.
Heres some info from Wikipedia..
Early in the mid-19th century the "Bull and Terrier" breeds were developed to satisfy the needs for vermin control and animal-based blood sports. The "Bull and Terriers" were based on the Old English Bulldog (now extinct) and one or more of Old English Terrier and "Black and tan terrier", now known as Manchester Terrier. This new breed combined the speed and dexterity of lightly built terriers with the dour tenacity of the Bulldog, which was a poor performer in most combat situations, having been bred almost exclusively for fighting bulls and bears tied to a post. Many breeders began to breed bulldogs with terriers, arguing that such a mixture enhances the quality of fighting. Despite the fact that a cross between a bulldog and a terrier was of high value, very little or nothing was done to preserve the breed in its original form. Due to the lack of breed standards—breeding was for performance, not appearance—the "Bull and Terrier" eventually divided into the ancestors of "Bull Terriers" and "Staffordshire Bull Terriers", both smaller and easier to handle than the progenitor.[/p][/quote]I rest my case.Loyal2AFCB

Loyal2AFCB wrote:
For what purpose were bull terrriers of various varietys bred? I would be interested to know.

Biting bulls usually tied to posts for 'sport' in ye old days.

Heres some info from Wikipedia..

Early in the mid-19th century the &quot;Bull and Terrier" breeds were developed to satisfy the needs for vermin control and animal-based blood sports. The "Bull and Terriers" were based on the Old English Bulldog (now extinct) and one or more of Old English Terrier and "Black and tan terrier", now known as Manchester Terrier. This new breed combined the speed and dexterity of lightly built terriers with the dour tenacity of the Bulldog, which was a poor performer in most combat situations, having been bred almost exclusively for fighting bulls and bears tied to a post. Many breeders began to breed bulldogs with terriers, arguing that such a mixture enhances the quality of fighting. Despite the fact that a cross between a bulldog and a terrier was of high value, very little or nothing was done to preserve the breed in its original form. Due to the lack of breed standards—breeding was for performance, not appearance—the "Bull and Terrier" eventually divided into the ancestors of "Bull Terriers" and "Staffordshire Bull Terriers", both smaller and easier to handle than the progenitor.

I rest my case.

Humans used to go to stadiums to watch other humans fight to the death, it was bred into humans for a long time that beating another person to death was an expected part of growing up. What is your point exactly?

[quote][p][bold]Loyal2AFCB[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Loyal2AFCB[/bold] wrote:
For what purpose were bull terrriers of various varietys bred? I would be interested to know.[/p][/quote]Biting bulls usually tied to posts for 'sport' in ye old days.
Heres some info from Wikipedia..
Early in the mid-19th century the "Bull and Terrier" breeds were developed to satisfy the needs for vermin control and animal-based blood sports. The "Bull and Terriers" were based on the Old English Bulldog (now extinct) and one or more of Old English Terrier and "Black and tan terrier", now known as Manchester Terrier. This new breed combined the speed and dexterity of lightly built terriers with the dour tenacity of the Bulldog, which was a poor performer in most combat situations, having been bred almost exclusively for fighting bulls and bears tied to a post. Many breeders began to breed bulldogs with terriers, arguing that such a mixture enhances the quality of fighting. Despite the fact that a cross between a bulldog and a terrier was of high value, very little or nothing was done to preserve the breed in its original form. Due to the lack of breed standards—breeding was for performance, not appearance—the "Bull and Terrier" eventually divided into the ancestors of "Bull Terriers" and "Staffordshire Bull Terriers", both smaller and easier to handle than the progenitor.[/p][/quote]I rest my case.[/p][/quote]Humans used to go to stadiums to watch other humans fight to the death, it was bred into humans for a long time that beating another person to death was an expected part of growing up. What is your point exactly?Not A Local

Misplaced is a good name for you. You have no idea what the dog was and have no idea about the breed of a SBT.
It is the owner who is at fault. You should have to be over the age of 25 to own a dog with no criminal record.

[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote:
Probably a Staffordshire bull terrier - you mark my words[/p][/quote]Misplaced is a good name for you. You have no idea what the dog was and have no idea about the breed of a SBT.
It is the owner who is at fault. You should have to be over the age of 25 to own a dog with no criminal record.goatty

fuzzyg66 wrote:
All these idiots on here saying &quot;its a dangerous breed" thats utter ****! a dog is like a child, you can raise a president or a serial killer! its entirely down to the owner in the case of 90-95% of breeds! i sincerely hope the little girl makes a full recovery but dont blame an abused animal for the results of its owner!!!

Who says the dog is abused? Alot of "bad" dogs are a result of interbreeding and that is a known fact and includes pedigree dogs. Other comments about dogs not being exercised...........
...................i
t was being walked at the time! As for the kid with the pushchair there are plenty of dogs who would have bitten him if they felt threatened. I'm not a lover of staffies but the comments about poor ownership may be wrong and she had the guts to put herself out there and admit it was her dog whilst many others would have hidden so give her some credit for that. It doesn't excuse the fact a little girl has been hurt but lets not all jump to conclusions about it before the facts are known.

[quote][p][bold]fuzzyg66[/bold] wrote:
All these idiots on here saying "its a dangerous breed" thats utter ****! a dog is like a child, you can raise a president or a serial killer! its entirely down to the owner in the case of 90-95% of breeds! i sincerely hope the little girl makes a full recovery but dont blame an abused animal for the results of its owner!!![/p][/quote]Who says the dog is abused? Alot of "bad" dogs are a result of interbreeding and that is a known fact and includes pedigree dogs. Other comments about dogs not being exercised...........
...................i
t was being walked at the time! As for the kid with the pushchair there are plenty of dogs who would have bitten him if they felt threatened. I'm not a lover of staffies but the comments about poor ownership may be wrong and she had the guts to put herself out there and admit it was her dog whilst many others would have hidden so give her some credit for that. It doesn't excuse the fact a little girl has been hurt but lets not all jump to conclusions about it before the facts are known.Dibbles2

bella99 wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.

Staffies used to be known as nanny dogs because they are so good around children.
There are more bites from Lab's in this country but everyone sees them as the Andrex dogs, whereas its quick to have a go at a Staff. Remember any dog is capable of biting not just Staffs and any owners that encourages them to be aggressive should be banned from keeping them and fined heavily

[quote][p][bold]bella99[/bold] wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.[/p][/quote]Staffies used to be known as nanny dogs because they are so good around children.
There are more bites from Lab's in this country but everyone sees them as the Andrex dogs, whereas its quick to have a go at a Staff. Remember any dog is capable of biting not just Staffs and any owners that encourages them to be aggressive should be banned from keeping them and fined heavilygoatty

Misplaced is a good name for you. You have no idea what the dog was and have no idea about the breed of a SBT.
It is the owner who is at fault. You should have to be over the age of 25 to own a dog with no criminal record.

I wouldn't fancy owning a dog with a criminal record at any age

[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote:
Probably a Staffordshire bull terrier - you mark my words[/p][/quote]Misplaced is a good name for you. You have no idea what the dog was and have no idea about the breed of a SBT.
It is the owner who is at fault. You should have to be over the age of 25 to own a dog with no criminal record.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't fancy owning a dog with a criminal record at any agewoby_tide

Misplaced is a good name for you. You have no idea what the dog was and have no idea about the breed of a SBT.
It is the owner who is at fault. You should have to be over the age of 25 to own a dog with no criminal record.

I wouldn't fancy owning a dog with a criminal record at any age

You make a very good point:)

[quote][p][bold]woby_tide[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote:
Probably a Staffordshire bull terrier - you mark my words[/p][/quote]Misplaced is a good name for you. You have no idea what the dog was and have no idea about the breed of a SBT.
It is the owner who is at fault. You should have to be over the age of 25 to own a dog with no criminal record.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't fancy owning a dog with a criminal record at any age[/p][/quote]You make a very good point:)retry69

bella99 wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.

Staffies used to be known as nanny dogs because they are so good around children.
There are more bites from Lab's in this country but everyone sees them as the Andrex dogs, whereas its quick to have a go at a Staff. Remember any dog is capable of biting not just Staffs and any owners that encourages them to be aggressive should be banned from keeping them and fined heavily

Your right and border collies are known for biting when they are rounding up and this includes kids.

[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bella99[/bold] wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.[/p][/quote]Staffies used to be known as nanny dogs because they are so good around children.
There are more bites from Lab's in this country but everyone sees them as the Andrex dogs, whereas its quick to have a go at a Staff. Remember any dog is capable of biting not just Staffs and any owners that encourages them to be aggressive should be banned from keeping them and fined heavily[/p][/quote]Your right and border collies are known for biting when they are rounding up and this includes kids.Dibbles2

I really feel for this little girl and her family. Hope she makes a good recovery both physically and manually. Oftimes the dog is aggressive due to the chavvy owner TRAINING it to be so. It was right thatt the dog was euthanised. However the owner MUST be held responsible and brought to account for the dogs behaviour. If found guilty they must never be allowed to own an animal ever again.

I really feel for this little girl and her family. Hope she makes a good recovery both physically and manually. Oftimes the dog is aggressive due to the chavvy owner TRAINING it to be so. It was right thatt the dog was euthanised. However the owner MUST be held responsible and brought to account for the dogs behaviour. If found guilty they must never be allowed to own an animal ever again.Petelucas

I would like to repeat my questions from my earlier post....
If, as reported in the article, she had only had the dog a short time, where was it prior to her care? Did she knowingly take on a dog that proved to be dangerous and aggressive or was she led to believe it was a well socialised, friendly dog?
Perhaps, before the blame is laid purely at the feet of the owner, these questions could be answered.

I would like to repeat my questions from my earlier post....
If, as reported in the article, she had only had the dog a short time, where was it prior to her care? Did she knowingly take on a dog that proved to be dangerous and aggressive or was she led to believe it was a well socialised, friendly dog?
Perhaps, before the blame is laid purely at the feet of the owner, these questions could be answered.Pasiphae

My sons were the previous owners of Dylan and were devastated that he had to be re-homed. The reason he wasn't re-homed through a charity or re-homing centre is because there was no space in any of them. It took them months to try and find him a suitable home and when Paige and Graham came and said they had experience with Bull terriers, it was exactly what Dylan needed. It''s not the home that was the problem as Paige and Graham had a house with a garden etc. it was the fact that, unbeknown to them at the time, she abuses animals for a past time that caused the problems. No one looks for the bad points in a person until something happens. Maybe when re-homing Dylan, they were naive to believe that no one could ever be so cruel towards a dog. Sam is not condoning what Dylan has done at all because if he was still owner and this had happened, he would of been the first to criticise himself. Paige and her boyfriend were very friendly and open when they came to see Dylan so there was completely no reason all to think that this was going to happen. Sam couldn't even be there when he was taken. They made themselves out to be an honest caring couple who would take care of Dylan. I later watched a video on her Facebook page where she were winding him up by hoovering backwards and forwards towards him while he was getting stressed shut in his cage. In the 5 weeks they had him, he fell from a 2nd story window, was pictured on a roof and now this.Dylan was a strong dog and should never have been allowed to be walked by a 16 year old girl. If he was on a lead this proves that the 16 year old wasn't strong enough to control him and stop him. She should have left the walks to her partner or is the fact he is in prison the reason we have no comments from him. Not so honest eh? My heart goes out to the little girl as I also have 10 year old twins and the parents must be so worried. I hope she gets well very soon. I have always told my children never to go near strange dogs as all dogs have the capability to bite. Paige keeps saying that it was no ones fault but it IS all your fault Paige and hopefully you will never be allowed another dog again as you show no sense of responsibility for what has happened. I agree with the comment that dog licenses should be brought back to stop people like you!!!!

My sons were the previous owners of Dylan and were devastated that he had to be re-homed. The reason he wasn't re-homed through a charity or re-homing centre is because there was no space in any of them. It took them months to try and find him a suitable home and when Paige and Graham came and said they had experience with Bull terriers, it was exactly what Dylan needed. It''s not the home that was the problem as Paige and Graham had a house with a garden etc. it was the fact that, unbeknown to them at the time, she abuses animals for a past time that caused the problems. No one looks for the bad points in a person until something happens. Maybe when re-homing Dylan, they were naive to believe that no one could ever be so cruel towards a dog. Sam is not condoning what Dylan has done at all because if he was still owner and this had happened, he would of been the first to criticise himself. Paige and her boyfriend were very friendly and open when they came to see Dylan so there was completely no reason all to think that this was going to happen. Sam couldn't even be there when he was taken. They made themselves out to be an honest caring couple who would take care of Dylan. I later watched a video on her Facebook page where she were winding him up by hoovering backwards and forwards towards him while he was getting stressed shut in his cage. In the 5 weeks they had him, he fell from a 2nd story window, was pictured on a roof and now this.Dylan was a strong dog and should never have been allowed to be walked by a 16 year old girl. If he was on a lead this proves that the 16 year old wasn't strong enough to control him and stop him. She should have left the walks to her partner or is the fact he is in prison the reason we have no comments from him. Not so honest eh? My heart goes out to the little girl as I also have 10 year old twins and the parents must be so worried. I hope she gets well very soon. I have always told my children never to go near strange dogs as all dogs have the capability to bite. Paige keeps saying that it was no ones fault but it IS all your fault Paige and hopefully you will never be allowed another dog again as you show no sense of responsibility for what has happened. I agree with the comment that dog licenses should be brought back to stop people like you!!!!lksje43

susi.m wrote:
I can barely afford to feed myself these days let alone a dog. They obviously have more disposable income on Somerford Estate than I do.

They probably have a job, you should try it.

[quote][p][bold]susi.m[/bold] wrote:
I can barely afford to feed myself these days let alone a dog. They obviously have more disposable income on Somerford Estate than I do.[/p][/quote]They probably have a job, you should try it.elite50

Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ?
So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life

Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ?
So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls lifelksje43

Misplaced is a good name for you. You have no idea what the dog was and have no idea about the breed of a SBT.
It is the owner who is at fault. You should have to be over the age of 25 to own a dog with no criminal record.

I agree with all of this apart from the age restriction.

If you want to own a dog, you should have to take it through some sort of "Good Citizen" dog training scheme, have public liability insurance AND a permit to own the dog itself.

[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote:
Probably a Staffordshire bull terrier - you mark my words[/p][/quote]Misplaced is a good name for you. You have no idea what the dog was and have no idea about the breed of a SBT.
It is the owner who is at fault. You should have to be over the age of 25 to own a dog with no criminal record.[/p][/quote]I agree with all of this apart from the age restriction.
If you want to own a dog, you should have to take it through some sort of "Good Citizen" dog training scheme, have public liability insurance AND a permit to own the dog itself.charlie anderson

bella99 wrote: Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.

Staffies used to be known as nanny dogs because they are so good around children. There are more bites from Lab's in this country but everyone sees them as the Andrex dogs, whereas its quick to have a go at a Staff. Remember any dog is capable of biting not just Staffs and any owners that encourages them to be aggressive should be banned from keeping them and fined heavily

Your right and border collies are known for biting when they are rounding up and this includes kids.

I was told the majority of dogs being put down for biting people are border collies!

[quote][p][bold]Dibbles2[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bella99[/bold] wrote: Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.[/p][/quote]Staffies used to be known as nanny dogs because they are so good around children. There are more bites from Lab's in this country but everyone sees them as the Andrex dogs, whereas its quick to have a go at a Staff. Remember any dog is capable of biting not just Staffs and any owners that encourages them to be aggressive should be banned from keeping them and fined heavily[/p][/quote]Your right and border collies are known for biting when they are rounding up and this includes kids.[/p][/quote]I was told the majority of dogs being put down for biting people are border collies!suzigirl

Pasiphae wrote:
I would like to repeat my questions from my earlier post....
If, as reported in the article, she had only had the dog a short time, where was it prior to her care? Did she knowingly take on a dog that proved to be dangerous and aggressive or was she led to believe it was a well socialised, friendly dog?
Perhaps, before the blame is laid purely at the feet of the owner, these questions could be answered.

Not quite sure why the thumbs down for my above post; they were genuine questions. I do, however, now realise I missed another important one...Did she do something that caused the dog to behave this way.
Evidently she did by the sounds of the above post, in which case I agree and echo those who say she should be banned for life.

[quote][p][bold]Pasiphae[/bold] wrote:
I would like to repeat my questions from my earlier post....
If, as reported in the article, she had only had the dog a short time, where was it prior to her care? Did she knowingly take on a dog that proved to be dangerous and aggressive or was she led to believe it was a well socialised, friendly dog?
Perhaps, before the blame is laid purely at the feet of the owner, these questions could be answered.[/p][/quote]Not quite sure why the thumbs down for my above post; they were genuine questions. I do, however, now realise I missed another important one...Did she do something that caused the dog to behave this way.
Evidently she did by the sounds of the above post, in which case I agree and echo those who say she should be banned for life.Pasiphae

Pasiphae wrote:
I would like to repeat my questions from my earlier post....
If, as reported in the article, she had only had the dog a short time, where was it prior to her care? Did she knowingly take on a dog that proved to be dangerous and aggressive or was she led to believe it was a well socialised, friendly dog?
Perhaps, before the blame is laid purely at the feet of the owner, these questions could be answered.

Not quite sure why the thumbs down for my above post; they were genuine questions. I do, however, now realise I missed another important one...Did she do something that caused the dog to behave this way.
Evidently she did by the sounds of the above post, in which case I agree and echo those who say she should be banned for life.

[quote][p][bold]Pasiphae[/bold] wrote:
I would like to repeat my questions from my earlier post....
If, as reported in the article, she had only had the dog a short time, where was it prior to her care? Did she knowingly take on a dog that proved to be dangerous and aggressive or was she led to believe it was a well socialised, friendly dog?
Perhaps, before the blame is laid purely at the feet of the owner, these questions could be answered.[/p][/quote]Not quite sure why the thumbs down for my above post; they were genuine questions. I do, however, now realise I missed another important one...Did she do something that caused the dog to behave this way.
Evidently she did by the sounds of the above post, in which case I agree and echo those who say she should be banned for life.Pasiphae

I find it interesting that 'dangerous' dogs who bite someone are almost always immediately destroyed, yet people who assault other people are usually given a ticking off and told not to do it again (which they usually do). Why are we so quick to judge animals just because they are 'only' animals who have presumably been poorly trained and attack out of fright and ignorance, yet so lenient towards our own kind who attack through malice of forethought?

I find it interesting that 'dangerous' dogs who bite someone are almost always immediately destroyed, yet people who assault other people are usually given a ticking off and told not to do it again (which they usually do). Why are we so quick to judge animals just because they are 'only' animals who have presumably been poorly trained and attack out of fright and ignorance, yet so lenient towards our own kind who attack through malice of forethought?speedy231278

If a previous incident was reported to police and it known she mistreated other dogs why is it Dylan put down and not her in prison instead. Apparently she starved him as well as the other things that have been posted on here prior to the update. There should have been an investigation first and Dylan taken into secure place to be assessed and maybe re-homed to someone who would care for him like he deserved! Not just automatically killed!!!

If a previous incident was reported to police and it known she mistreated other dogs why is it Dylan put down and not her in prison instead. Apparently she starved him as well as the other things that have been posted on here prior to the update. There should have been an investigation first and Dylan taken into secure place to be assessed and maybe re-homed to someone who would care for him like he deserved! Not just automatically killed!!!lksje43

speedy231278 wrote:
I find it interesting that 'dangerous' dogs who bite someone are almost always immediately destroyed, yet people who assault other people are usually given a ticking off and told not to do it again (which they usually do). Why are we so quick to judge animals just because they are 'only' animals who have presumably been poorly trained and attack out of fright and ignorance, yet so lenient towards our own kind who attack through malice of forethought?

Too true!!!

[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote:
I find it interesting that 'dangerous' dogs who bite someone are almost always immediately destroyed, yet people who assault other people are usually given a ticking off and told not to do it again (which they usually do). Why are we so quick to judge animals just because they are 'only' animals who have presumably been poorly trained and attack out of fright and ignorance, yet so lenient towards our own kind who attack through malice of forethought?[/p][/quote]Too true!!!lksje43

woodseh wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.

Oh well QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody awful things

I wish the chavs too scared to go out on their own without these nasty creatures were destroyed.

[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]woodseh[/bold] wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.[/p][/quote]Oh well QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody awful things[/p][/quote]I wish the chavs too scared to go out on their own without these nasty creatures were destroyed.HRH of Boscombe

I feel very sorry for the little girl that was bitten in this story and I hope her injuries heal in time although as someone else has posted the emotional and mental scarring may never heal.

However please be aware that staffies are not bad dogs...no dog is born bad or evil or aggressive...a dog learns from it's owner and environment....very much the same as a child does at they grow up.

I have experience in rescue dogs etc.....and you will find that unfortunately, the majority of the time, the only dog bite stories that get into the press are those that involved staffies or bull breeds...there are plenty of cases of other breeds biting....did you know, for example, that Golden Labradors/Retrievers bite more often than staffies and pit bulls and this is known fact which was also scientifically reported as fact in the BBC programme 'The Wonder of Dogs'.

Unfortunately the dog in this story was not controlled correctly and the owner has been sensible in, unfortunately, allowing this dog to be put to sleep.

And we will never know if the child actually approached/touched the dog...the family and friends say she didn't but we will never know.

I really don't care if I get thumbs down for this comment....we as humans are lucky to have a voice....animal don't have that same voice to speak out against poor treatment etc. so someone has to.

I feel very sorry for the little girl that was bitten in this story and I hope her injuries heal in time although as someone else has posted the emotional and mental scarring may never heal.
However please be aware that staffies are not bad dogs...no dog is born bad or evil or aggressive...a dog learns from it's owner and environment....very much the same as a child does at they grow up.
I have experience in rescue dogs etc.....and you will find that unfortunately, the majority of the time, the only dog bite stories that get into the press are those that involved staffies or bull breeds...there are plenty of cases of other breeds biting....did you know, for example, that Golden Labradors/Retrievers bite more often than staffies and pit bulls and this is known fact which was also scientifically reported as fact in the BBC programme 'The Wonder of Dogs'.
Unfortunately the dog in this story was not controlled correctly and the owner has been sensible in, unfortunately, allowing this dog to be put to sleep.
And we will never know if the child actually approached/touched the dog...the family and friends say she didn't but we will never know.
I really don't care if I get thumbs down for this comment....we as humans are lucky to have a voice....animal don't have that same voice to speak out against poor treatment etc. so someone has to.KitKatPuss

woodseh wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.

Oh well QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody awful things

I wish the chavs too scared to go out on their own without these nasty creatures were destroyed.

its wasn't a staffordshire bull terrier either!!!!

[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]woodseh[/bold] wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.[/p][/quote]Oh well QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody awful things[/p][/quote]I wish the chavs too scared to go out on their own without these nasty creatures were destroyed.[/p][/quote]its wasn't a staffordshire bull terrier either!!!!lksje43

lksje43 wrote:
Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ?
So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life

I think you should take the blame for giving away the dog to strangers he didn't know! a dog is for life..i presume you would give your child to strangers.

[quote][p][bold]lksje43[/bold] wrote:
Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ?
So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life[/p][/quote]I think you should take the blame for giving away the dog to strangers he didn't know! a dog is for life..i presume you would give your child to strangers.ladyb.

lksje43 wrote:
Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ?
So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life

I think you should take the blame for sending the dog to strangers he didn't know!, a dog is for life!

[quote][p][bold]lksje43[/bold] wrote:
Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ?
So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life[/p][/quote]I think you should take the blame for sending the dog to strangers he didn't know!, a dog is for life!ladyb.

Why was a little girl out playing at this time anyway? My daughter is the same age and is in her jim jams and ready for bed at 8pm, as are most of her friends. Horrible thing to happen though and hope she's doing ok.

Why was a little girl out playing at this time anyway? My daughter is the same age and is in her jim jams and ready for bed at 8pm, as are most of her friends. Horrible thing to happen though and hope she's doing ok.mungobean

lksje43 wrote:
Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ?
So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life

I think you should take the blame for giving away the dog to strangers he didn't know! a dog is for life..i presume you would give your child to strangers.

Unforseen circumstances happen. So it would have been better that they left him in a flat on his own all day while they were at work???? They did what they thought was best for Dylan as responsible dog lovers!!!! At least they are working unlike the spongers who despite claiming benefits can still afford these dogs, fags and booze!!!
The fact that they could not place Dylan in a re-homing centre is because they were all full!!!. Doesn't this how many irresponsible people buy these dogs and then abandon them. Sam and Karl spent months trying to find a decent home for him. How were they to know what Paige was really like. It isn't until something like this happens that the truth comes out.

[quote][p][bold]ladyb.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]lksje43[/bold] wrote:
Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ?
So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life[/p][/quote]I think you should take the blame for giving away the dog to strangers he didn't know! a dog is for life..i presume you would give your child to strangers.[/p][/quote]Unforseen circumstances happen. So it would have been better that they left him in a flat on his own all day while they were at work???? They did what they thought was best for Dylan as responsible dog lovers!!!! At least they are working unlike the spongers who despite claiming benefits can still afford these dogs, fags and booze!!!
The fact that they could not place Dylan in a re-homing centre is because they were all full!!!. Doesn't this how many irresponsible people buy these dogs and then abandon them. Sam and Karl spent months trying to find a decent home for him. How were they to know what Paige was really like. It isn't until something like this happens that the truth comes out.lksje43

lksje43 wrote: Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ? So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life

I think you should take the blame for sending the dog to strangers he didn't know!, a dog is for life!

So you didn't have a young child, work full time and live in rented accommodation when you bought the dog?

[quote][p][bold]ladyb.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]lksje43[/bold] wrote: Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ? So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life[/p][/quote]I think you should take the blame for sending the dog to strangers he didn't know!, a dog is for life![/p][/quote]So you didn't have a young child, work full time and live in rented accommodation when you bought the dog?suzigirl

susi.m wrote:
I can barely afford to feed myself these days let alone a dog. They obviously have more disposable income on Somerford Estate than I do.

They probably have a job, you should try it.

I live near here and it is well known as an area of deprivation . There are two worlds in Christchurch. Thew old **** rich retirees @ Friars Cliff and the poor and needy housed in Social Housing in Somerford. This has nothing to do with the subject of a poor lass badly hurt by a dog improperly treated. \You are indeed like most of Christchurch and Bournemouth an utter snob. Forget not a life event can remove your wealth overnight!!!

[quote][p][bold]elite50[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]susi.m[/bold] wrote:
I can barely afford to feed myself these days let alone a dog. They obviously have more disposable income on Somerford Estate than I do.[/p][/quote]They probably have a job, you should try it.[/p][/quote]I live near here and it is well known as an area of deprivation . There are two worlds in Christchurch. Thew old **** rich retirees @ Friars Cliff and the poor and needy housed in Social Housing in Somerford. This has nothing to do with the subject of a poor lass badly hurt by a dog improperly treated. \You are indeed like most of Christchurch and Bournemouth an utter snob. Forget not a life event can remove your wealth overnight!!!Petelucas

lksje43 wrote: Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ? So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life

I think you should take the blame for sending the dog to strangers he didn't know!, a dog is for life!

So you didn't have a young child, work full time and live in rented accommodation when you bought the dog?

No. Sam was living at home with his dad and his brother 2 and half years ago when he bought Dylan. He met Ruby a while ago but was still living at home. He and his brother Karl took joint responsibility for looking after Dylan. When Sam moved in with Ruby and her little boy Karl still looked after Dylan but his hours in his new job were not regular and involved a lot of travelling so they decided it would be best for Dylan to find a new home for him. Sam was so devastated that Dylan had to go he couldn't even be there when they took him!!

[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ladyb.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]lksje43[/bold] wrote: Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ? So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life[/p][/quote]I think you should take the blame for sending the dog to strangers he didn't know!, a dog is for life![/p][/quote]So you didn't have a young child, work full time and live in rented accommodation when you bought the dog?[/p][/quote]No. Sam was living at home with his dad and his brother 2 and half years ago when he bought Dylan. He met Ruby a while ago but was still living at home. He and his brother Karl took joint responsibility for looking after Dylan. When Sam moved in with Ruby and her little boy Karl still looked after Dylan but his hours in his new job were not regular and involved a lot of travelling so they decided it would be best for Dylan to find a new home for him. Sam was so devastated that Dylan had to go he couldn't even be there when they took him!!lksje43

lksje43 wrote: Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ? So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life

I think you should take the blame for sending the dog to strangers he didn't know!, a dog is for life!

So you didn't have a young child, work full time and live in rented accommodation when you bought the dog?

No. Sam was living at home with his dad and his brother 2 and half years ago when he bought Dylan. He met Ruby a while ago but was still living at home. He and his brother Karl took joint responsibility for looking after Dylan. When Sam moved in with Ruby and her little boy Karl still looked after Dylan but his hours in his new job were not regular and involved a lot of travelling so they decided it would be best for Dylan to find a new home for him. Sam was so devastated that Dylan had to go he couldn't even be there when they took him!!

TMI - I am sorry I asked now!

[quote][p][bold]lksje43[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ladyb.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lksje43[/bold] wrote: Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ? So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life[/p][/quote]I think you should take the blame for sending the dog to strangers he didn't know!, a dog is for life![/p][/quote]So you didn't have a young child, work full time and live in rented accommodation when you bought the dog?[/p][/quote]No. Sam was living at home with his dad and his brother 2 and half years ago when he bought Dylan. He met Ruby a while ago but was still living at home. He and his brother Karl took joint responsibility for looking after Dylan. When Sam moved in with Ruby and her little boy Karl still looked after Dylan but his hours in his new job were not regular and involved a lot of travelling so they decided it would be best for Dylan to find a new home for him. Sam was so devastated that Dylan had to go he couldn't even be there when they took him!![/p][/quote]TMI - I am sorry I asked now!suzigirl

lksje43 wrote: Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ? So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life

I think you should take the blame for sending the dog to strangers he didn't know!, a dog is for life!

So you didn't have a young child, work full time and live in rented accommodation when you bought the dog?

No. Sam was living at home with his dad and his brother 2 and half years ago when he bought Dylan. He met Ruby a while ago but was still living at home. He and his brother Karl took joint responsibility for looking after Dylan. When Sam moved in with Ruby and her little boy Karl still looked after Dylan but his hours in his new job were not regular and involved a lot of travelling so they decided it would be best for Dylan to find a new home for him. Sam was so devastated that Dylan had to go he couldn't even be there when they took him!!

[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ladyb.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]lksje43[/bold] wrote: Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ? So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life[/p][/quote]I think you should take the blame for sending the dog to strangers he didn't know!, a dog is for life![/p][/quote]So you didn't have a young child, work full time and live in rented accommodation when you bought the dog?[/p][/quote]No. Sam was living at home with his dad and his brother 2 and half years ago when he bought Dylan. He met Ruby a while ago but was still living at home. He and his brother Karl took joint responsibility for looking after Dylan. When Sam moved in with Ruby and her little boy Karl still looked after Dylan but his hours in his new job were not regular and involved a lot of travelling so they decided it would be best for Dylan to find a new home for him. Sam was so devastated that Dylan had to go he couldn't even be there when they took him!!lksje43

lksje43 wrote: Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ? So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life

I think you should take the blame for sending the dog to strangers he didn't know!, a dog is for life!

So you didn't have a young child, work full time and live in rented accommodation when you bought the dog?

No. Sam was living at home with his dad and his brother 2 and half years ago when he bought Dylan. He met Ruby a while ago but was still living at home. He and his brother Karl took joint responsibility for looking after Dylan. When Sam moved in with Ruby and her little boy Karl still looked after Dylan but his hours in his new job were not regular and involved a lot of travelling so they decided it would be best for Dylan to find a new home for him. Sam was so devastated that Dylan had to go he couldn't even be there when they took him!!

TMI - I am sorry I asked now!

At least you asked before making hurtful comments like ladyb!! We are all upset enough about Dylan and worried about the little girl without someone who knows nothing about the situation slagging Ruby off!!, both my sons have partners with small children and I also have 10 year old twins so we know how we would feel in this situation.

[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]lksje43[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ladyb.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lksje43[/bold] wrote: Ruby Lee. Dylan was a lovely happy friendly pup, I am the previous owners partner i have a 3 year old son who was around little Dylan all the time, all he ever did was be gentle and let my son stroke him and play with him and that's a 3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog but Dylan would never of come near him he was a wonderful dog and unfortunately we trusted what we thought was a loving family who had the time to give him the care he needed, as unfortunately we both work full time, live in rented accommodation and have a young child to look after. We thought we was doing the right thing by finding him a new home. He was loved dearly and my partner was devastated when he had to go he couldn't even bear to be there. My thoughts go out to the little girls family I truly hope she is ok ?? And that this doesn't scare her off dogs forever ... Anybody know how she is getting on ? So devastated how 5 weeks can make sure a disastrous difference to a dogs personality and a young girls life[/p][/quote]I think you should take the blame for sending the dog to strangers he didn't know!, a dog is for life![/p][/quote]So you didn't have a young child, work full time and live in rented accommodation when you bought the dog?[/p][/quote]No. Sam was living at home with his dad and his brother 2 and half years ago when he bought Dylan. He met Ruby a while ago but was still living at home. He and his brother Karl took joint responsibility for looking after Dylan. When Sam moved in with Ruby and her little boy Karl still looked after Dylan but his hours in his new job were not regular and involved a lot of travelling so they decided it would be best for Dylan to find a new home for him. Sam was so devastated that Dylan had to go he couldn't even be there when they took him!![/p][/quote]TMI - I am sorry I asked now![/p][/quote]At least you asked before making hurtful comments like ladyb!! We are all upset enough about Dylan and worried about the little girl without someone who knows nothing about the situation slagging Ruby off!!, both my sons have partners with small children and I also have 10 year old twins so we know how we would feel in this situation.lksje43

woodseh wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.

Oh well QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody awful things

Lots of incorrect data/statistics being quoted by posters who really have no in-depth knowledge of "incidents" involving people & dogs.

The "breed" involved in the highest reported dog biting humans is in fact the most numerous in the country-the Labrador Retriever, after all over 80,000 are bred each year half of which are from known pedigrees & health testing & the other half from "pets", "working" unregistered dogs.

However this does not mean that Labradors are am aggressive breed. It simply means that dogs of the type are more numerous & therefore more likely to be involved in incidents with humans.

This happened because the current owners were not suitable & a very good reason why good animal rescues have experienced home checkers & various methods of checking prospective new owners out before they are allowed to have a dog. I do such visits & follow visits for a range of rescues from all over the UK(& not just for dogs)

People like this woman can be very devious & fool owners of dogs who are looking to rehome their pets, they do not fool experienced home checkers nor good rescues.

Sorry for the little girl, but once again the dog has paid the ultimate price for the current owner's error.

I've owned dogs since I was 8 years old & the only time I have been bitten by an aggressive dog was by in fact Labrador cross Golden Retriever Guide Dog for the Blind, that dragged it's owner at speed to attack me whilst I had my back towards it ! I was a teenager at the time & no it didn't make me frightened of dogs, it made me wish I had had my GSD there with me to protect me as she would have done so by putting herself between me & the dog & a show of barking & growling & not by biting the dog in question

[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]woodseh[/bold] wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.[/p][/quote]Oh well QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody awful things[/p][/quote]Lots of incorrect data/statistics being quoted by posters who really have no in-depth knowledge of "incidents" involving people & dogs.
The "breed" involved in the highest reported dog biting humans is in fact the most numerous in the country-the Labrador Retriever, after all over 80,000 are bred each year half of which are from known pedigrees & health testing & the other half from "pets", "working" unregistered dogs.
However this does not mean that Labradors are am aggressive breed. It simply means that dogs of the type are more numerous & therefore more likely to be involved in incidents with humans.
This happened because the current owners were not suitable & a very good reason why good animal rescues have experienced home checkers & various methods of checking prospective new owners out before they are allowed to have a dog. I do such visits & follow visits for a range of rescues from all over the UK(& not just for dogs)
People like this woman can be very devious & fool owners of dogs who are looking to rehome their pets, they do not fool experienced home checkers nor good rescues.
Sorry for the little girl, but once again the dog has paid the ultimate price for the current owner's error.
I've owned dogs since I was 8 years old & the only time I have been bitten by an aggressive dog was by in fact Labrador cross Golden Retriever Guide Dog for the Blind, that dragged it's owner at speed to attack me whilst I had my back towards it ! I was a teenager at the time & no it didn't make me frightened of dogs, it made me wish I had had my GSD there with me to protect me as she would have done so by putting herself between me & the dog & a show of barking & growling & not by biting the dog in questionRGoutte

Franks Tank wrote:
All dogs should have to wear hi-viz registration numbers so they can be tracked down in the event of them misbehaving.

So should some cyclists!

[quote][p][bold]Franks Tank[/bold] wrote:
All dogs should have to wear hi-viz registration numbers so they can be tracked down in the event of them misbehaving.[/p][/quote]So should some cyclists!suzigirl

woodseh wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.

Oh well QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody awful things

Lots of incorrect data/statistics being quoted by posters who really have no in-depth knowledge of &quot;incidents" involving people &amp; dogs.

The "breed" involved in the highest reported dog biting humans is in fact the most numerous in the country-the Labrador Retriever, after all over 80,000 are bred each year half of which are from known pedigrees &amp; health testing &amp; the other half from "pets", "working" unregistered dogs.

However this does not mean that Labradors are am aggressive breed. It simply means that dogs of the type are more numerous &amp; therefore more likely to be involved in incidents with humans.

This happened because the current owners were not suitable &amp; a very good reason why good animal rescues have experienced home checkers &amp; various methods of checking prospective new owners out before they are allowed to have a dog. I do such visits &amp; follow visits for a range of rescues from all over the UK(&amp; not just for dogs)

People like this woman can be very devious &amp; fool owners of dogs who are looking to rehome their pets, they do not fool experienced home checkers nor good rescues.

Sorry for the little girl, but once again the dog has paid the ultimate price for the current owner's error.

I've owned dogs since I was 8 years old &amp; the only time I have been bitten by an aggressive dog was by in fact Labrador cross Golden Retriever Guide Dog for the Blind, that dragged it's owner at speed to attack me whilst I had my back towards it ! I was a teenager at the time &amp; no it didn't make me frightened of dogs, it made me wish I had had my GSD there with me to protect me as she would have done so by putting herself between me &amp; the dog &amp; a show of barking &amp; growling &amp; not by biting the dog in question

My sons did try it re home Dylan via a rescue centre but they were all full. They tried for months to find a decent home for him and when this girl and her partner came to meet them they believed their intentions that they had experience of bull terriers had the space and plenty of time to spend with him. In 5 weeks they destroyed all the love and time that Sam and Karl had put into Dylan. He was a lovely friendly dog who was great round all our kids from age 3 upwards including my 10 year old twins and now he is dead and she appears to have got away with it again. Apparently the police were told about a previous incident so why is she not arrested. Why are the dogs put down with no questions or investigations done first?

[quote][p][bold]RGoutte[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]woodseh[/bold] wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.[/p][/quote]Oh well QUELLE SURPRISE! Bloody awful things[/p][/quote]Lots of incorrect data/statistics being quoted by posters who really have no in-depth knowledge of "incidents" involving people & dogs.
The "breed" involved in the highest reported dog biting humans is in fact the most numerous in the country-the Labrador Retriever, after all over 80,000 are bred each year half of which are from known pedigrees & health testing & the other half from "pets", "working" unregistered dogs.
However this does not mean that Labradors are am aggressive breed. It simply means that dogs of the type are more numerous & therefore more likely to be involved in incidents with humans.
This happened because the current owners were not suitable & a very good reason why good animal rescues have experienced home checkers & various methods of checking prospective new owners out before they are allowed to have a dog. I do such visits & follow visits for a range of rescues from all over the UK(& not just for dogs)
People like this woman can be very devious & fool owners of dogs who are looking to rehome their pets, they do not fool experienced home checkers nor good rescues.
Sorry for the little girl, but once again the dog has paid the ultimate price for the current owner's error.
I've owned dogs since I was 8 years old & the only time I have been bitten by an aggressive dog was by in fact Labrador cross Golden Retriever Guide Dog for the Blind, that dragged it's owner at speed to attack me whilst I had my back towards it ! I was a teenager at the time & no it didn't make me frightened of dogs, it made me wish I had had my GSD there with me to protect me as she would have done so by putting herself between me & the dog & a show of barking & growling & not by biting the dog in question[/p][/quote]My sons did try it re home Dylan via a rescue centre but they were all full. They tried for months to find a decent home for him and when this girl and her partner came to meet them they believed their intentions that they had experience of bull terriers had the space and plenty of time to spend with him. In 5 weeks they destroyed all the love and time that Sam and Karl had put into Dylan. He was a lovely friendly dog who was great round all our kids from age 3 upwards including my 10 year old twins and now he is dead and she appears to have got away with it again. Apparently the police were told about a previous incident so why is she not arrested. Why are the dogs put down with no questions or investigations done first?lksje43

Hope the little girl has a speedy recovery. ALL dogs should be muzzled when out. Especially in this hot weather. And before anyone pounces, I have two GSD, & I muzzle them when out. And no I don't trust them. No owner should trust there dogs 100%.

Hope the little girl has a speedy recovery. ALL dogs should be muzzled when out. Especially in this hot weather. And before anyone pounces, I have two GSD, & I muzzle them when out. And no I don't trust them. No owner should trust there dogs 100%.kimh64

kimh64 wrote:
Hope the little girl has a speedy recovery. ALL dogs should be muzzled when out. Especially in this hot weather. And before anyone pounces, I have two GSD, &amp; I muzzle them when out. And no I don't trust them. No owner should trust there dogs 100%.

I also have had GSD since I was a child. My last one was put down when her legs went about 3 years ago and my twins were gutted. She could be grumpy so I always told them to be careful especially at food time when they wanted to sit and watch her!! and never left them alone with her

[quote][p][bold]kimh64[/bold] wrote:
Hope the little girl has a speedy recovery. ALL dogs should be muzzled when out. Especially in this hot weather. And before anyone pounces, I have two GSD, & I muzzle them when out. And no I don't trust them. No owner should trust there dogs 100%.[/p][/quote]I also have had GSD since I was a child. My last one was put down when her legs went about 3 years ago and my twins were gutted. She could be grumpy so I always told them to be careful especially at food time when they wanted to sit and watch her!! and never left them alone with herlksje43

bella99 wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.

Staffies used to be known as nanny dogs because they are so good around children.
There are more bites from Lab's in this country but everyone sees them as the Andrex dogs, whereas its quick to have a go at a Staff. Remember any dog is capable of biting not just Staffs and any owners that encourages them to be aggressive should be banned from keeping them and fined heavily

Your right and border collies are known for biting when they are rounding up and this includes kids.

I had a Border Collie which later turned on my children and was put down. Not the fault of the dog; they are bred as working dogs and want nothing more than to be out there, working, exercising and being motivated.

Many people are too weak-willed to say no to having a dog; they are seen as a status symbol, not always for the right reason. Dogs shouldn't be kept in apartments, nor when the house would be empty all day. Potential owners need to look ahead to their likely circumstances - but they don't.

[quote][p][bold]Dibbles2[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bella99[/bold] wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.[/p][/quote]Staffies used to be known as nanny dogs because they are so good around children.
There are more bites from Lab's in this country but everyone sees them as the Andrex dogs, whereas its quick to have a go at a Staff. Remember any dog is capable of biting not just Staffs and any owners that encourages them to be aggressive should be banned from keeping them and fined heavily[/p][/quote]Your right and border collies are known for biting when they are rounding up and this includes kids.[/p][/quote]I had a Border Collie which later turned on my children and was put down. Not the fault of the dog; they are bred as working dogs and want nothing more than to be out there, working, exercising and being motivated.
Many people are too weak-willed to say no to having a dog; they are seen as a status symbol, not always for the right reason. Dogs shouldn't be kept in apartments, nor when the house would be empty all day. Potential owners need to look ahead to their likely circumstances - but they don't.Phixer

I have just been reading how this poor dog was rehomed to a total idiot who loved to tease and be hurtful to it. No wonder it was aggressive.
I hope this pathetic moron called Paige gets banned from keeping dogs for life. If she lives in a council flat or house then she be booted out and let some normal person have it. Scum like this need to be booted out of society as it is parasites like this that give good dog owners and normal people who live on estates a bad name.

I have just been reading how this poor dog was rehomed to a total idiot who loved to tease and be hurtful to it. No wonder it was aggressive.
I hope this pathetic moron called Paige gets banned from keeping dogs for life. If she lives in a council flat or house then she be booted out and let some normal person have it. Scum like this need to be booted out of society as it is parasites like this that give good dog owners and normal people who live on estates a bad name.goatty

It was only 2 months ago when an ENGLISH BULL TERRIER bit me and was never found, was it this one, who knows, I had to attend hospitals and fortunately am healing nicely, I do hope the young girl heals as quickly as I have and leaves no mental scars either

It was only 2 months ago when an ENGLISH BULL TERRIER bit me and was never found, was it this one, who knows, I had to attend hospitals and fortunately am healing nicely, I do hope the young girl heals as quickly as I have and leaves no mental scars eitherdogmumrosie

dogmumrosie wrote:
It was only 2 months ago when an ENGLISH BULL TERRIER bit me and was never found, was it this one, who knows, I had to attend hospitals and fortunately am healing nicely, I do hope the young girl heals as quickly as I have and leaves no mental scars either

If it was 2 months ago it wasn't Dylan. He was safe with a good owner then!

[quote][p][bold]dogmumrosie[/bold] wrote:
It was only 2 months ago when an ENGLISH BULL TERRIER bit me and was never found, was it this one, who knows, I had to attend hospitals and fortunately am healing nicely, I do hope the young girl heals as quickly as I have and leaves no mental scars either[/p][/quote]If it was 2 months ago it wasn't Dylan. He was safe with a good owner then!lksje43

goatty wrote:
I have just been reading how this poor dog was rehomed to a total idiot who loved to tease and be hurtful to it. No wonder it was aggressive.
I hope this pathetic moron called Paige gets banned from keeping dogs for life. If she lives in a council flat or house then she be booted out and let some normal person have it. Scum like this need to be booted out of society as it is parasites like this that give good dog owners and normal people who live on estates a bad name.

Apparently she lost her home when boyfriend went to prison so she sleeping where ever she could. Where was Dylan?

[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote:
I have just been reading how this poor dog was rehomed to a total idiot who loved to tease and be hurtful to it. No wonder it was aggressive.
I hope this pathetic moron called Paige gets banned from keeping dogs for life. If she lives in a council flat or house then she be booted out and let some normal person have it. Scum like this need to be booted out of society as it is parasites like this that give good dog owners and normal people who live on estates a bad name.[/p][/quote]Apparently she lost her home when boyfriend went to prison so she sleeping where ever she could. Where was Dylan?lksje43

bella99 wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.

Staffies used to be known as nanny dogs because they are so good around children.
There are more bites from Lab's in this country but everyone sees them as the Andrex dogs, whereas its quick to have a go at a Staff. Remember any dog is capable of biting not just Staffs and any owners that encourages them to be aggressive should be banned from keeping them and fined heavily

Your right and border collies are known for biting when they are rounding up and this includes kids.

I had a Border Collie which later turned on my children and was put down. Not the fault of the dog; they are bred as working dogs and want nothing more than to be out there, working, exercising and being motivated.

Many people are too weak-willed to say no to having a dog; they are seen as a status symbol, not always for the right reason. Dogs shouldn't be kept in apartments, nor when the house would be empty all day. Potential owners need to look ahead to their likely circumstances - but they don't.

How can you foresee two and a half years ahed. That's how long Sam had Dylan but you are right about flats or empty house which is the reason Sam decided he would be better of in another home. How wrong he was with this person!!

[quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Dibbles2[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bella99[/bold] wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.[/p][/quote]Staffies used to be known as nanny dogs because they are so good around children.
There are more bites from Lab's in this country but everyone sees them as the Andrex dogs, whereas its quick to have a go at a Staff. Remember any dog is capable of biting not just Staffs and any owners that encourages them to be aggressive should be banned from keeping them and fined heavily[/p][/quote]Your right and border collies are known for biting when they are rounding up and this includes kids.[/p][/quote]I had a Border Collie which later turned on my children and was put down. Not the fault of the dog; they are bred as working dogs and want nothing more than to be out there, working, exercising and being motivated.
Many people are too weak-willed to say no to having a dog; they are seen as a status symbol, not always for the right reason. Dogs shouldn't be kept in apartments, nor when the house would be empty all day. Potential owners need to look ahead to their likely circumstances - but they don't.[/p][/quote]How can you foresee two and a half years ahed. That's how long Sam had Dylan but you are right about flats or empty house which is the reason Sam decided he would be better of in another home. How wrong he was with this person!!lksje43

bella99 wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.

Staffies used to be known as nanny dogs because they are so good around children.
There are more bites from Lab's in this country but everyone sees them as the Andrex dogs, whereas its quick to have a go at a Staff. Remember any dog is capable of biting not just Staffs and any owners that encourages them to be aggressive should be banned from keeping them and fined heavily

Your right and border collies are known for biting when they are rounding up and this includes kids.

I had a Border Collie which later turned on my children and was put down. Not the fault of the dog; they are bred as working dogs and want nothing more than to be out there, working, exercising and being motivated.

Many people are too weak-willed to say no to having a dog; they are seen as a status symbol, not always for the right reason. Dogs shouldn't be kept in apartments, nor when the house would be empty all day. Potential owners need to look ahead to their likely circumstances - but they don't.

How can you foresee two and a half years ahed. That's how long Sam had Dylan but you are right about flats or empty house which is the reason Sam decided he would be better of in another home. How wrong he was with this person!!

[quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Dibbles2[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bella99[/bold] wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.[/p][/quote]Staffies used to be known as nanny dogs because they are so good around children.
There are more bites from Lab's in this country but everyone sees them as the Andrex dogs, whereas its quick to have a go at a Staff. Remember any dog is capable of biting not just Staffs and any owners that encourages them to be aggressive should be banned from keeping them and fined heavily[/p][/quote]Your right and border collies are known for biting when they are rounding up and this includes kids.[/p][/quote]I had a Border Collie which later turned on my children and was put down. Not the fault of the dog; they are bred as working dogs and want nothing more than to be out there, working, exercising and being motivated.
Many people are too weak-willed to say no to having a dog; they are seen as a status symbol, not always for the right reason. Dogs shouldn't be kept in apartments, nor when the house would be empty all day. Potential owners need to look ahead to their likely circumstances - but they don't.[/p][/quote]How can you foresee two and a half years ahed. That's how long Sam had Dylan but you are right about flats or empty house which is the reason Sam decided he would be better of in another home. How wrong he was with this person!!lksje43

What a ridiculous thing to say. Its people like you with your ignorance that cause this beautiuful breed of dog to be feared when in fact a labrodor or jack russell are more inclined to bite. You should get your facts right before venting about the beautiful staffordshire bull terrier. Its the owners not the breed always.

[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote:
Probably a Staffordshire bull terrier - you mark my words[/p][/quote]What a ridiculous thing to say. Its people like you with your ignorance that cause this beautiuful breed of dog to be feared when in fact a labrodor or jack russell are more inclined to bite. You should get your facts right before venting about the beautiful staffordshire bull terrier. Its the owners not the breed always.crystaluser

woodseh wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.

It's actually not a staffie, it's more like an English bull terrier. He was called Dylan. They own a staffie too but Dylan isn't a staffie. I don't know the owner but if you look at the Echo comments you can see the owner post and her profile is open. Loads of pictures of Dylan and heated discussions!

I've just had a nose at her Facebook pics and yes it is an English Bull Terrier. Princess Anne had one that bit a girl in a London park.

woah Princess Anne had a dog that bit someone, what the Princess Anne that comes from royalty & doesn't come from an estate somewhere apart from Balmoral estate.
It really pi$$es me off when people assume all dog attacks/bites etc come from people that own a dog live on council estates. There were some disparaging remarks made about Somerford which were removed & so they should have been.
I'm guessing most that post on here are adults, grow up & behave like one !!!!!

fuzzyg66 wrote:
All these idiots on here saying &quot;its a dangerous breed" thats utter ****! a dog is like a child, you can raise a president or a serial killer! its entirely down to the owner in the case of 90-95% of breeds! i sincerely hope the little girl makes a full recovery but dont blame an abused animal for the results of its owner!!!

Who says the dog is abused? Alot of "bad" dogs are a result of interbreeding and that is a known fact and includes pedigree dogs. Other comments about dogs not being exercised...........

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t was being walked at the time! As for the kid with the pushchair there are plenty of dogs who would have bitten him if they felt threatened. I'm not a lover of staffies but the comments about poor ownership may be wrong and she had the guts to put herself out there and admit it was her dog whilst many others would have hidden so give her some credit for that. It doesn't excuse the fact a little girl has been hurt but lets not all jump to conclusions about it before the facts are known.

Please read all other comments to see what she was really like. 5 weeks of hell for a gorgeous 2 1/2 year old dog who had been adored and loved by decent family with kids aged 3 to my 10 year old twins . It is her that should have been punished not Dylan!!

[quote][p][bold]Dibbles2[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]fuzzyg66[/bold] wrote:
All these idiots on here saying "its a dangerous breed" thats utter ****! a dog is like a child, you can raise a president or a serial killer! its entirely down to the owner in the case of 90-95% of breeds! i sincerely hope the little girl makes a full recovery but dont blame an abused animal for the results of its owner!!![/p][/quote]Who says the dog is abused? Alot of "bad" dogs are a result of interbreeding and that is a known fact and includes pedigree dogs. Other comments about dogs not being exercised...........
...................i
t was being walked at the time! As for the kid with the pushchair there are plenty of dogs who would have bitten him if they felt threatened. I'm not a lover of staffies but the comments about poor ownership may be wrong and she had the guts to put herself out there and admit it was her dog whilst many others would have hidden so give her some credit for that. It doesn't excuse the fact a little girl has been hurt but lets not all jump to conclusions about it before the facts are known.[/p][/quote]Please read all other comments to see what she was really like. 5 weeks of hell for a gorgeous 2 1/2 year old dog who had been adored and loved by decent family with kids aged 3 to my 10 year old twins . It is her that should have been punished not Dylan!!lksje43

What a ridiculous thing to say. Its people like you with your ignorance that cause this beautiuful breed of dog to be feared when in fact a labrodor or jack russell are more inclined to bite. You should get your facts right before venting about the beautiful staffordshire bull terrier. Its the owners not the breed always.

Look at the picture of the dog you ignorant moron. Its an English Bull Terrior

[quote][p][bold]crystaluser[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote:
Probably a Staffordshire bull terrier - you mark my words[/p][/quote]What a ridiculous thing to say. Its people like you with your ignorance that cause this beautiuful breed of dog to be feared when in fact a labrodor or jack russell are more inclined to bite. You should get your facts right before venting about the beautiful staffordshire bull terrier. Its the owners not the breed always.[/p][/quote]Look at the picture of the dog you ignorant moron. Its an English Bull Terriorgoatty

woodseh wrote:
She's 9. It wasn't at Waterman's Park and she's not in Poole hospital. Good effort though.
It was a staffordshire bull terrier, which has now been destroyed and the owner arrested.

It's actually not a staffie, it's more like an English bull terrier. He was called Dylan. They own a staffie too but Dylan isn't a staffie. I don't know the owner but if you look at the Echo comments you can see the owner post and her profile is open. Loads of pictures of Dylan and heated discussions!

I've just had a nose at her Facebook pics and yes it is an English Bull Terrier. Princess Anne had one that bit a girl in a London park.

woah Princess Anne had a dog that bit someone, what the Princess Anne that comes from royalty &amp; doesn't come from an estate somewhere apart from Balmoral estate.
It really pi$$es me off when people assume all dog attacks/bites etc come from people that own a dog live on council estates. There were some disparaging remarks made about Somerford which were removed &amp; so they should have been.
I'm guessing most that post on here are adults, grow up &amp; behave like one !!!!!

Yes indeed, princess Anne's female English bull terrier 'dotty' bit 2 boys in a London park (my error saying it was a girl)

She was the only royal to appear in court for over 100 years. She was fined 500 quid Plus costs etc.

Then a year later 'dotty' savaged one of thr Queens Corgies and was then put down.

Loyal2AFCB wrote:
For what purpose were bull terrriers of various varietys bred? I would be interested to know.

Biting bulls usually tied to posts for 'sport' in ye old days.

Heres some info from Wikipedia..

Early in the mid-19th century the &quot;Bull and Terrier" breeds were developed to satisfy the needs for vermin control and animal-based blood sports. The "Bull and Terriers" were based on the Old English Bulldog (now extinct) and one or more of Old English Terrier and "Black and tan terrier", now known as Manchester Terrier. This new breed combined the speed and dexterity of lightly built terriers with the dour tenacity of the Bulldog, which was a poor performer in most combat situations, having been bred almost exclusively for fighting bulls and bears tied to a post. Many breeders began to breed bulldogs with terriers, arguing that such a mixture enhances the quality of fighting. Despite the fact that a cross between a bulldog and a terrier was of high value, very little or nothing was done to preserve the breed in its original form. Due to the lack of breed standards—breeding was for performance, not appearance—the "Bull and Terrier" eventually divided into the ancestors of "Bull Terriers" and "Staffordshire Bull Terriers", both smaller and easier to handle than the progenitor.

English Bull Terriers were bred as gentlemens companion dogs.

The breed has had more breeds & inter breeding put into it than any other dog, hence the unique egg shaped head & triangular shaped eyes.

I've had both EBT's & Staffies. Both great dogs if handled & trained/socialised
properly.
EBT's are very demanding dog's with strong characters. They need forceful (but kind) training.

[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Loyal2AFCB[/bold] wrote:
For what purpose were bull terrriers of various varietys bred? I would be interested to know.[/p][/quote]Biting bulls usually tied to posts for 'sport' in ye old days.
Heres some info from Wikipedia..
Early in the mid-19th century the "Bull and Terrier" breeds were developed to satisfy the needs for vermin control and animal-based blood sports. The "Bull and Terriers" were based on the Old English Bulldog (now extinct) and one or more of Old English Terrier and "Black and tan terrier", now known as Manchester Terrier. This new breed combined the speed and dexterity of lightly built terriers with the dour tenacity of the Bulldog, which was a poor performer in most combat situations, having been bred almost exclusively for fighting bulls and bears tied to a post. Many breeders began to breed bulldogs with terriers, arguing that such a mixture enhances the quality of fighting. Despite the fact that a cross between a bulldog and a terrier was of high value, very little or nothing was done to preserve the breed in its original form. Due to the lack of breed standards—breeding was for performance, not appearance—the "Bull and Terrier" eventually divided into the ancestors of "Bull Terriers" and "Staffordshire Bull Terriers", both smaller and easier to handle than the progenitor.[/p][/quote]English Bull Terriers were bred as gentlemens companion dogs.
The breed has had more breeds & inter breeding put into it than any other dog, hence the unique egg shaped head & triangular shaped eyes.
I've had both EBT's & Staffies. Both great dogs if handled & trained/socialised
properly.
EBT's are very demanding dog's with strong characters. They need forceful (but kind) training.stevobath

KitKatPuss wrote:
I feel very sorry for the little girl that was bitten in this story and I hope her injuries heal in time although as someone else has posted the emotional and mental scarring may never heal.

However please be aware that staffies are not bad dogs...no dog is born bad or evil or aggressive...a dog learns from it's owner and environment....very much the same as a child does at they grow up.

I have experience in rescue dogs etc.....and you will find that unfortunately, the majority of the time, the only dog bite stories that get into the press are those that involved staffies or bull breeds...there are plenty of cases of other breeds biting....did you know, for example, that Golden Labradors/Retrievers bite more often than staffies and pit bulls and this is known fact which was also scientifically reported as fact in the BBC programme 'The Wonder of Dogs'.

Unfortunately the dog in this story was not controlled correctly and the owner has been sensible in, unfortunately, allowing this dog to be put to sleep.

And we will never know if the child actually approached/touched the dog...the family and friends say she didn't but we will never know.

I really don't care if I get thumbs down for this comment....we as humans are lucky to have a voice....animal don't have that same voice to speak out against poor treatment etc. so someone has to.

A nip from a Lab is a bit different to an attack from a dog bred for fighting.

[quote][p][bold]KitKatPuss[/bold] wrote:
I feel very sorry for the little girl that was bitten in this story and I hope her injuries heal in time although as someone else has posted the emotional and mental scarring may never heal.
However please be aware that staffies are not bad dogs...no dog is born bad or evil or aggressive...a dog learns from it's owner and environment....very much the same as a child does at they grow up.
I have experience in rescue dogs etc.....and you will find that unfortunately, the majority of the time, the only dog bite stories that get into the press are those that involved staffies or bull breeds...there are plenty of cases of other breeds biting....did you know, for example, that Golden Labradors/Retrievers bite more often than staffies and pit bulls and this is known fact which was also scientifically reported as fact in the BBC programme 'The Wonder of Dogs'.
Unfortunately the dog in this story was not controlled correctly and the owner has been sensible in, unfortunately, allowing this dog to be put to sleep.
And we will never know if the child actually approached/touched the dog...the family and friends say she didn't but we will never know.
I really don't care if I get thumbs down for this comment....we as humans are lucky to have a voice....animal don't have that same voice to speak out against poor treatment etc. so someone has to.[/p][/quote]A nip from a Lab is a bit different to an attack from a dog bred for fighting.scrumpyjack

bella99 wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.

Staffies used to be known as nanny dogs because they are so good around children.
There are more bites from Lab's in this country but everyone sees them as the Andrex dogs, whereas its quick to have a go at a Staff. Remember any dog is capable of biting not just Staffs and any owners that encourages them to be aggressive should be banned from keeping them and fined heavily

The 'Nanny Dog Myth'.

I've owned & been around Staffies & EBT's all my life & know a fair bit of the history of the breeds'
The whole Nanny Dog thing is a myth, that originated in the early 1970's in certain dog breeding magazines. Only since this time has the whole myth spread.
I've hundreds of books going back 80years. The myth doesn't appear until the 70's. Totally wrong, although they are great dogs with kids if socialised,trained & not 'back yard bred'.

[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bella99[/bold] wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.[/p][/quote]Staffies used to be known as nanny dogs because they are so good around children.
There are more bites from Lab's in this country but everyone sees them as the Andrex dogs, whereas its quick to have a go at a Staff. Remember any dog is capable of biting not just Staffs and any owners that encourages them to be aggressive should be banned from keeping them and fined heavily[/p][/quote]The 'Nanny Dog Myth'.
I've owned & been around Staffies & EBT's all my life & know a fair bit of the history of the breeds'
The whole Nanny Dog thing is a myth, that originated in the early 1970's in certain dog breeding magazines. Only since this time has the whole myth spread.
I've hundreds of books going back 80years. The myth doesn't appear until the 70's. Totally wrong, although they are great dogs with kids if socialised,trained & not 'back yard bred'.stevobath

bella99 wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.

Because it usually is, or a bull terrier type. I'm certainly not saying the breed is bad though, staffies can certainly be lovely family dogs, it's the fact these dogs 'look' aggressive that they are usually owned by people as status symbols. Sadly they usually WANT the dogs to be aggressive and it's these ones that make the headlines because they go on to bite someone. Of course any dog is capable of biting but there are many breeds who are less likely to turn aggressive or be owned as a status symbol, hence we don't read so much about that breed. You probably won't see some chav walking around with a bichon. Sadly looking into poor Dylan here he had only be owned for a few months by this family, it sounds like they didn't know too much about him. The owner is only 20 and allowed her 16 year old niece out with the dog which is when the attack happened. It very much sounds like Dylan didn't stand much chance in life. I wish it was law to register dogs and hold a permit to own one. As a responsible dog owner I'd happily pay for one!

if we had a law that requires one to register a dog and have a permit to own one >>>> what difference would that have made. As a responsible dog owner you would be happy to pay for one! well I wouldn't , it would not make my dog any safer or make me a better dog owner.

[quote][p][bold]iseestupidpeople[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bella99[/bold] wrote:
Why do people just assume its a Staffordshire Bull terrier. My brother has one and they have the most kindest nature. They are listed in the top 10 of best dogs for families with children. I've been bitten by 2 labradors yet people assume they are the safest dogs to own. Any dog can attack. Try spending some time around a staffie before you judge the breed. I hope the little girl recovers soon.[/p][/quote]Because it usually is, or a bull terrier type. I'm certainly not saying the breed is bad though, staffies can certainly be lovely family dogs, it's the fact these dogs 'look' aggressive that they are usually owned by people as status symbols. Sadly they usually WANT the dogs to be aggressive and it's these ones that make the headlines because they go on to bite someone. Of course any dog is capable of biting but there are many breeds who are less likely to turn aggressive or be owned as a status symbol, hence we don't read so much about that breed. You probably won't see some chav walking around with a bichon. Sadly looking into poor Dylan here he had only be owned for a few months by this family, it sounds like they didn't know too much about him. The owner is only 20 and allowed her 16 year old niece out with the dog which is when the attack happened. It very much sounds like Dylan didn't stand much chance in life. I wish it was law to register dogs and hold a permit to own one. As a responsible dog owner I'd happily pay for one![/p][/quote]if we had a law that requires one to register a dog and have a permit to own one >>>> what difference would that have made. As a responsible dog owner you would be happy to pay for one! well I wouldn't , it would not make my dog any safer or make me a better dog owner.MotorbikeSam

All of the information being commented here by Dylan's previous owner is malicious slander and has been reported. Paige could not have loved that dog more and he was spoilt rotten! Far from the total fabrication being portrayed on here!! He was never beaten, never starved and never abused whilst in her care. The police have commented on what great condition he was in. He was never used for fighting as some people are suggesting. He was regularly handled by Paige's 87 year old grandmother and no aggression was shown by him in the 5 weeks she had him. Paige was not arrested under the dangerous dogs act and as far as I can see has done all that she could have done since the horrible incident. She is not homeless due to her boyfriend being in prison either, as the previous owner has suggested, she rents her home on the wages she earns, not benefits!! This was a tragic accident that could not have been for-seen judging on how loving he was in the last 5 weeks. He was on the lead at the time of the accident and just suddenly ripped the lead out of the walkers hand. He was happy and healthy and it has been suggested that he could have had a brain tumour which would have affected his behaviour. He also did not fall out of a window!! He decided to jump out of an open window onto a lower level roof and then again to a lower level before jumping to the ground (much like how a dog bounds down the stairs) after he saw a football being kicked outside. He was totally unharmed. He was regularly around children whilst in Paige's care and everyone who knew him is totally shocked that he did this. He was given so much attention and walked several times a day, which he did not get with the previous owners, who reportedly shut him indoors for up to 12 hours at a time. Enough to drive any dog crazy!! So to everyone saying it is the owners fault, I would look at his previous owners for that answer, not that they will be truthful with how they treated the dog. I think giving him away for free on gumtree says it all personally. They are lucky someone didn't take him on for bait fighting. I find it quite odd at how they have repeatedly defended them selves and been pointing blame when really they need not have got involved at all! Constantly posting totally awful and untrue information about Paige only makes you look guilty to me. I sincerely hope that Scarlett makes a speedy and full recovery and think people should be remembering the point of this headline, that a little girl was seriously hurt. Every vile threat made to Paige intending to harm her has been reported to the police.
I am not going to reply to any responses to this comment so don't expect any further questions to be answered.

All of the information being commented here by Dylan's previous owner is malicious slander and has been reported. Paige could not have loved that dog more and he was spoilt rotten! Far from the total fabrication being portrayed on here!! He was never beaten, never starved and never abused whilst in her care. The police have commented on what great condition he was in. He was never used for fighting as some people are suggesting. He was regularly handled by Paige's 87 year old grandmother and no aggression was shown by him in the 5 weeks she had him. Paige was not arrested under the dangerous dogs act and as far as I can see has done all that she could have done since the horrible incident. She is not homeless due to her boyfriend being in prison either, as the previous owner has suggested, she rents her home on the wages she earns, not benefits!! This was a tragic accident that could not have been for-seen judging on how loving he was in the last 5 weeks. He was on the lead at the time of the accident and just suddenly ripped the lead out of the walkers hand. He was happy and healthy and it has been suggested that he could have had a brain tumour which would have affected his behaviour. He also did not fall out of a window!! He decided to jump out of an open window onto a lower level roof and then again to a lower level before jumping to the ground (much like how a dog bounds down the stairs) after he saw a football being kicked outside. He was totally unharmed. He was regularly around children whilst in Paige's care and everyone who knew him is totally shocked that he did this. He was given so much attention and walked several times a day, which he did not get with the previous owners, who reportedly shut him indoors for up to 12 hours at a time. Enough to drive any dog crazy!! So to everyone saying it is the owners fault, I would look at his previous owners for that answer, not that they will be truthful with how they treated the dog. I think giving him away for free on gumtree says it all personally. They are lucky someone didn't take him on for bait fighting. I find it quite odd at how they have repeatedly defended them selves and been pointing blame when really they need not have got involved at all! Constantly posting totally awful and untrue information about Paige only makes you look guilty to me. I sincerely hope that Scarlett makes a speedy and full recovery and think people should be remembering the point of this headline, that a little girl was seriously hurt. Every vile threat made to Paige intending to harm her has been reported to the police.
I am not going to reply to any responses to this comment so don't expect any further questions to be answered.wigwoo

wigwoo wrote:
All of the information being commented here by Dylan's previous owner is malicious slander and has been reported. Paige could not have loved that dog more and he was spoilt rotten! Far from the total fabrication being portrayed on here!! He was never beaten, never starved and never abused whilst in her care. The police have commented on what great condition he was in. He was never used for fighting as some people are suggesting. He was regularly handled by Paige's 87 year old grandmother and no aggression was shown by him in the 5 weeks she had him. Paige was not arrested under the dangerous dogs act and as far as I can see has done all that she could have done since the horrible incident. She is not homeless due to her boyfriend being in prison either, as the previous owner has suggested, she rents her home on the wages she earns, not benefits!! This was a tragic accident that could not have been for-seen judging on how loving he was in the last 5 weeks. He was on the lead at the time of the accident and just suddenly ripped the lead out of the walkers hand. He was happy and healthy and it has been suggested that he could have had a brain tumour which would have affected his behaviour. He also did not fall out of a window!! He decided to jump out of an open window onto a lower level roof and then again to a lower level before jumping to the ground (much like how a dog bounds down the stairs) after he saw a football being kicked outside. He was totally unharmed. He was regularly around children whilst in Paige's care and everyone who knew him is totally shocked that he did this. He was given so much attention and walked several times a day, which he did not get with the previous owners, who reportedly shut him indoors for up to 12 hours at a time. Enough to drive any dog crazy!! So to everyone saying it is the owners fault, I would look at his previous owners for that answer, not that they will be truthful with how they treated the dog. I think giving him away for free on gumtree says it all personally. They are lucky someone didn't take him on for bait fighting. I find it quite odd at how they have repeatedly defended them selves and been pointing blame when really they need not have got involved at all! Constantly posting totally awful and untrue information about Paige only makes you look guilty to me. I sincerely hope that Scarlett makes a speedy and full recovery and think people should be remembering the point of this headline, that a little girl was seriously hurt. Every vile threat made to Paige intending to harm her has been reported to the police.
I am not going to reply to any responses to this comment so don't expect any further questions to be answered.

Hypercrital. Your telling people not to speak about Paige as it's slander, yet you then go on to say how the owners before must have treated Dylan. Your comment works both ways!

[quote][p][bold]wigwoo[/bold] wrote:
All of the information being commented here by Dylan's previous owner is malicious slander and has been reported. Paige could not have loved that dog more and he was spoilt rotten! Far from the total fabrication being portrayed on here!! He was never beaten, never starved and never abused whilst in her care. The police have commented on what great condition he was in. He was never used for fighting as some people are suggesting. He was regularly handled by Paige's 87 year old grandmother and no aggression was shown by him in the 5 weeks she had him. Paige was not arrested under the dangerous dogs act and as far as I can see has done all that she could have done since the horrible incident. She is not homeless due to her boyfriend being in prison either, as the previous owner has suggested, she rents her home on the wages she earns, not benefits!! This was a tragic accident that could not have been for-seen judging on how loving he was in the last 5 weeks. He was on the lead at the time of the accident and just suddenly ripped the lead out of the walkers hand. He was happy and healthy and it has been suggested that he could have had a brain tumour which would have affected his behaviour. He also did not fall out of a window!! He decided to jump out of an open window onto a lower level roof and then again to a lower level before jumping to the ground (much like how a dog bounds down the stairs) after he saw a football being kicked outside. He was totally unharmed. He was regularly around children whilst in Paige's care and everyone who knew him is totally shocked that he did this. He was given so much attention and walked several times a day, which he did not get with the previous owners, who reportedly shut him indoors for up to 12 hours at a time. Enough to drive any dog crazy!! So to everyone saying it is the owners fault, I would look at his previous owners for that answer, not that they will be truthful with how they treated the dog. I think giving him away for free on gumtree says it all personally. They are lucky someone didn't take him on for bait fighting. I find it quite odd at how they have repeatedly defended them selves and been pointing blame when really they need not have got involved at all! Constantly posting totally awful and untrue information about Paige only makes you look guilty to me. I sincerely hope that Scarlett makes a speedy and full recovery and think people should be remembering the point of this headline, that a little girl was seriously hurt. Every vile threat made to Paige intending to harm her has been reported to the police.
I am not going to reply to any responses to this comment so don't expect any further questions to be answered.[/p][/quote]Hypercrital. Your telling people not to speak about Paige as it's slander, yet you then go on to say how the owners before must have treated Dylan. Your comment works both ways!Babybop

What a ridiculous thing to say. Its people like you with your ignorance that cause this beautiuful breed of dog to be feared when in fact a labrodor or jack russell are more inclined to bite. You should get your facts right before venting about the beautiful staffordshire bull terrier. Its the owners not the breed always.

Look at the picture of the dog you ignorant moron. Its an English Bull Terrior

Where has crystaluser said anything about the type of dog? They are simply querying misplacedspaniard's complete guesswork about the type of dog involved. It's hardly surprising that management consultancies make a fortune selling communication skills courses. They'd certainly make a fortune out of many of the frequent and not so frequent users here. Lots of repeat work as well for the people who just don't get it.

[quote][p][bold]goatty[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]crystaluser[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]misplacedspaniard[/bold] wrote:
Probably a Staffordshire bull terrier - you mark my words[/p][/quote]What a ridiculous thing to say. Its people like you with your ignorance that cause this beautiuful breed of dog to be feared when in fact a labrodor or jack russell are more inclined to bite. You should get your facts right before venting about the beautiful staffordshire bull terrier. Its the owners not the breed always.[/p][/quote]Look at the picture of the dog you ignorant moron. Its an English Bull Terrior[/p][/quote]Where has crystaluser said anything about the type of dog? They are simply querying misplacedspaniard's complete guesswork about the type of dog involved. It's hardly surprising that management consultancies make a fortune selling communication skills courses. They'd certainly make a fortune out of many of the frequent and not so frequent users here. Lots of repeat work as well for the people who just don't get it.breamoreboy

wigwoo wrote:
All of the information being commented here by Dylan's previous owner is malicious slander and has been reported. Paige could not have loved that dog more and he was spoilt rotten! Far from the total fabrication being portrayed on here!! He was never beaten, never starved and never abused whilst in her care. The police have commented on what great condition he was in. He was never used for fighting as some people are suggesting. He was regularly handled by Paige's 87 year old grandmother and no aggression was shown by him in the 5 weeks she had him. Paige was not arrested under the dangerous dogs act and as far as I can see has done all that she could have done since the horrible incident. She is not homeless due to her boyfriend being in prison either, as the previous owner has suggested, she rents her home on the wages she earns, not benefits!! This was a tragic accident that could not have been for-seen judging on how loving he was in the last 5 weeks. He was on the lead at the time of the accident and just suddenly ripped the lead out of the walkers hand. He was happy and healthy and it has been suggested that he could have had a brain tumour which would have affected his behaviour. He also did not fall out of a window!! He decided to jump out of an open window onto a lower level roof and then again to a lower level before jumping to the ground (much like how a dog bounds down the stairs) after he saw a football being kicked outside. He was totally unharmed. He was regularly around children whilst in Paige's care and everyone who knew him is totally shocked that he did this. He was given so much attention and walked several times a day, which he did not get with the previous owners, who reportedly shut him indoors for up to 12 hours at a time. Enough to drive any dog crazy!! So to everyone saying it is the owners fault, I would look at his previous owners for that answer, not that they will be truthful with how they treated the dog. I think giving him away for free on gumtree says it all personally. They are lucky someone didn't take him on for bait fighting. I find it quite odd at how they have repeatedly defended them selves and been pointing blame when really they need not have got involved at all! Constantly posting totally awful and untrue information about Paige only makes you look guilty to me. I sincerely hope that Scarlett makes a speedy and full recovery and think people should be remembering the point of this headline, that a little girl was seriously hurt. Every vile threat made to Paige intending to harm her has been reported to the police.
I am not going to reply to any responses to this comment so don't expect any further questions to be answered.

Hypercrital. Your telling people not to speak about Paige as it's slander, yet you then go on to say how the owners before must have treated Dylan. Your comment works both ways!

Please make your mind up. One minute you are saying he was a happy healthy loving dog then saying that he had been driven crazy by the previous owners before she had him? Which one was he?

As for selling him for free on Gumtree, it was more important to find a decent home for him not the money they would make for him. They did try to re home in an animal rescue centre but they were all full.

The fact that the lead was so easily taken from the girls hand proves that Paige should never have let a 16 year old girl walk him. As for allowing her 87 year old grandmother handle him that is even more irresponsible knowing how strong Dylan was!!
The reason we got involved was because after my sons received so many messages from people that knew her and about the abuse that she had done to all the dogs that she had previously owned and reading the 148 comments on the Echo site prior to it being updated we wanted to make sure that she never had the opportunity to own another dog again!!

[quote][p][bold]Babybop[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wigwoo[/bold] wrote:
All of the information being commented here by Dylan's previous owner is malicious slander and has been reported. Paige could not have loved that dog more and he was spoilt rotten! Far from the total fabrication being portrayed on here!! He was never beaten, never starved and never abused whilst in her care. The police have commented on what great condition he was in. He was never used for fighting as some people are suggesting. He was regularly handled by Paige's 87 year old grandmother and no aggression was shown by him in the 5 weeks she had him. Paige was not arrested under the dangerous dogs act and as far as I can see has done all that she could have done since the horrible incident. She is not homeless due to her boyfriend being in prison either, as the previous owner has suggested, she rents her home on the wages she earns, not benefits!! This was a tragic accident that could not have been for-seen judging on how loving he was in the last 5 weeks. He was on the lead at the time of the accident and just suddenly ripped the lead out of the walkers hand. He was happy and healthy and it has been suggested that he could have had a brain tumour which would have affected his behaviour. He also did not fall out of a window!! He decided to jump out of an open window onto a lower level roof and then again to a lower level before jumping to the ground (much like how a dog bounds down the stairs) after he saw a football being kicked outside. He was totally unharmed. He was regularly around children whilst in Paige's care and everyone who knew him is totally shocked that he did this. He was given so much attention and walked several times a day, which he did not get with the previous owners, who reportedly shut him indoors for up to 12 hours at a time. Enough to drive any dog crazy!! So to everyone saying it is the owners fault, I would look at his previous owners for that answer, not that they will be truthful with how they treated the dog. I think giving him away for free on gumtree says it all personally. They are lucky someone didn't take him on for bait fighting. I find it quite odd at how they have repeatedly defended them selves and been pointing blame when really they need not have got involved at all! Constantly posting totally awful and untrue information about Paige only makes you look guilty to me. I sincerely hope that Scarlett makes a speedy and full recovery and think people should be remembering the point of this headline, that a little girl was seriously hurt. Every vile threat made to Paige intending to harm her has been reported to the police.
I am not going to reply to any responses to this comment so don't expect any further questions to be answered.[/p][/quote]Hypercrital. Your telling people not to speak about Paige as it's slander, yet you then go on to say how the owners before must have treated Dylan. Your comment works both ways![/p][/quote]Please make your mind up. One minute you are saying he was a happy healthy loving dog then saying that he had been driven crazy by the previous owners before she had him? Which one was he?
As for selling him for free on Gumtree, it was more important to find a decent home for him not the money they would make for him. They did try to re home in an animal rescue centre but they were all full.
The fact that the lead was so easily taken from the girls hand proves that Paige should never have let a 16 year old girl walk him. As for allowing her 87 year old grandmother handle him that is even more irresponsible knowing how strong Dylan was!!
The reason we got involved was because after my sons received so many messages from people that knew her and about the abuse that she had done to all the dogs that she had previously owned and reading the 148 comments on the Echo site prior to it being updated we wanted to make sure that she never had the opportunity to own another dog again!!lksje43

Franks Tank wrote:
All dogs should have to wear hi-viz registration numbers so they can be tracked down in the event of them misbehaving.

Some adults & their offspring should too!

[quote][p][bold]Franks Tank[/bold] wrote:
All dogs should have to wear hi-viz registration numbers so they can be tracked down in the event of them misbehaving.[/p][/quote]Some adults & their offspring should too!stevobath

KitKatPuss wrote:
I feel very sorry for the little girl that was bitten in this story and I hope her injuries heal in time although as someone else has posted the emotional and mental scarring may never heal.

However please be aware that staffies are not bad dogs...no dog is born bad or evil or aggressive...a dog learns from it's owner and environment....very much the same as a child does at they grow up.

I have experience in rescue dogs etc.....and you will find that unfortunately, the majority of the time, the only dog bite stories that get into the press are those that involved staffies or bull breeds...there are plenty of cases of other breeds biting....did you know, for example, that Golden Labradors/Retrievers bite more often than staffies and pit bulls and this is known fact which was also scientifically reported as fact in the BBC programme 'The Wonder of Dogs'.

Unfortunately the dog in this story was not controlled correctly and the owner has been sensible in, unfortunately, allowing this dog to be put to sleep.

And we will never know if the child actually approached/touched the dog...the family and friends say she didn't but we will never know.

I really don't care if I get thumbs down for this comment....we as humans are lucky to have a voice....animal don't have that same voice to speak out against poor treatment etc. so someone has to.

A nip from a Lab is a bit different to an attack from a dog bred for fighting.

Staffordshire bull terriers are no longer bred (by sensible and legal breeders) for fighting...in fact the modern day Staffy is now bred with a temperament suitable for a pet and companion....it is all down to how they are treated by their owners....blame the deed and not the breed as many say.

Pit bulls are unfortunately known in society as a dog bred for fighting and their bite pressure (courtesy of scientific tests run by National Geographic) is 235lbs of force compared to a labrador retriever which has a bite pressure of 230lbs of force...only slightly different....with a staffy's bite force being less than that of a pit bull.

[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]KitKatPuss[/bold] wrote:
I feel very sorry for the little girl that was bitten in this story and I hope her injuries heal in time although as someone else has posted the emotional and mental scarring may never heal.
However please be aware that staffies are not bad dogs...no dog is born bad or evil or aggressive...a dog learns from it's owner and environment....very much the same as a child does at they grow up.
I have experience in rescue dogs etc.....and you will find that unfortunately, the majority of the time, the only dog bite stories that get into the press are those that involved staffies or bull breeds...there are plenty of cases of other breeds biting....did you know, for example, that Golden Labradors/Retrievers bite more often than staffies and pit bulls and this is known fact which was also scientifically reported as fact in the BBC programme 'The Wonder of Dogs'.
Unfortunately the dog in this story was not controlled correctly and the owner has been sensible in, unfortunately, allowing this dog to be put to sleep.
And we will never know if the child actually approached/touched the dog...the family and friends say she didn't but we will never know.
I really don't care if I get thumbs down for this comment....we as humans are lucky to have a voice....animal don't have that same voice to speak out against poor treatment etc. so someone has to.[/p][/quote]A nip from a Lab is a bit different to an attack from a dog bred for fighting.[/p][/quote]Staffordshire bull terriers are no longer bred (by sensible and legal breeders) for fighting...in fact the modern day Staffy is now bred with a temperament suitable for a pet and companion....it is all down to how they are treated by their owners....blame the deed and not the breed as many say.
Pit bulls are unfortunately known in society as a dog bred for fighting and their bite pressure (courtesy of scientific tests run by National Geographic) is 235lbs of force compared to a labrador retriever which has a bite pressure of 230lbs of force...only slightly different....with a staffy's bite force being less than that of a pit bull.KitKatPuss

kimh64 wrote:
Hope the little girl has a speedy recovery. ALL dogs should be muzzled when out. Especially in this hot weather. And before anyone pounces, I have two GSD, &amp; I muzzle them when out. And no I don't trust them. No owner should trust there dogs 100%.

I totally agree with this....I have a Shar Pei x Staffy who is always muzzled....all dogs should also be kept on a lead to decrease risks of attacks on human even further.

[quote][p][bold]kimh64[/bold] wrote:
Hope the little girl has a speedy recovery. ALL dogs should be muzzled when out. Especially in this hot weather. And before anyone pounces, I have two GSD, & I muzzle them when out. And no I don't trust them. No owner should trust there dogs 100%.[/p][/quote]I totally agree with this....I have a Shar Pei x Staffy who is always muzzled....all dogs should also be kept on a lead to decrease risks of attacks on human even further.KitKatPuss

Franks Tank wrote:
All dogs should have to wear hi-viz registration numbers so they can be tracked down in the event of them misbehaving.

Some adults &amp; their offspring should too!

It'll never happen, why should 650 MPs pass a law that'll impact on themselves and their families?

[quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Franks Tank[/bold] wrote:
All dogs should have to wear hi-viz registration numbers so they can be tracked down in the event of them misbehaving.[/p][/quote]Some adults & their offspring should too![/p][/quote]It'll never happen, why should 650 MPs pass a law that'll impact on themselves and their families?breamoreboy

It doesn't say the girl let her grandma walk the dog it says she HANDLED the dog, which I would interpret to mean that when she visited her grandma the lady fussed and stroked the dog etc not walked him, that's not what it says!! I would say that's no more irresponsible than your earlier comment of your "3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog" being "around the dog all the time". That sounds far more irresponsible to me! You are not blameless here having placed the dog in a home that you clearly did not vet properly! No excuse for that! Stop instigating a witch hunt and leave it to the relevant authorities to investigate.

It doesn't say the girl let her grandma walk the dog it says she HANDLED the dog, which I would interpret to mean that when she visited her grandma the lady fussed and stroked the dog etc not walked him, that's not what it says!! I would say that's no more irresponsible than your earlier comment of your "3 yr old who is very excitable loud and makes very quick and brash movements which would probably scare a dog" being "around the dog all the time". That sounds far more irresponsible to me! You are not blameless here having placed the dog in a home that you clearly did not vet properly! No excuse for that! Stop instigating a witch hunt and leave it to the relevant authorities to investigate.GTR124