Comments

Comment by lewro13

Strength? Why strength! Blizzard stated that they'd make thrown weapons the appeal to warriors/rogues for stats but this gun's stats benefit a warrior much more than that of a hunter. The damage on this thing is better than the Platinum Guard. Only thing to beat it on damage in terms of guns is Giant's Bane. Maybe its just the dwarf hunter I play but i sure hope that this gets some Agility on it instead of Strength so i can get my upgrade before the 25-man Ulduar starts going in my guild.

Comment by hei00

Finally ranged weapons for melee classes whose main attribute is strength. I mean honestly if you are going to complain because it doesn't have agility and you can't jack it from everyone else too bad. Hands off this one hunters and rogues. Hands on to warriors.

Comment by DocKro

Making a ranged weapon that is only useful to ONE class is pretty stupid...

Comment by WakemanCK

As a hunter, I'll gladly pass this to warriors.

However, I rarely see warriors, retadins and DKs passing agility melee weapons to us.

Comment by NeroAngelo

Comment by sourceofevil

hunters still get first dibs on that one.....even without any agility.

If hunters don't want it though, it makes a pretty decent stat stick for DPS warriors or Rogues....and also make a pretty good threat piece for tanks....

Edit.....this is referring to the Platinum Guard rifle,,,,NOT Mimron's Repeater.

Comment by kurais

http://ptr.wowhead.com/?item=45309 seems to be pretty good I'm too lazy to run everything through spreadsheets but the only spec of hunter that gets a major benefit from stacking agi is survival and many hunters are going to be speccing mm for raiding in 3.1

Comment by Ludajak

"Got a little distracted by the repeater" "That will happen" ..."Yeah that will happen"

Comment by emidan

Appears to be a trash drop from Ulduar 10-man. Dropped for us from a Magma Rager from Ignis the Furnace Master's trash.

Comment by rebsten

Just because it has str and low DPS doesn't mean, if / when Uldar becomes puggable, some hunter in greens won't see it, roll, and win it.

Hell, last week I was in a Naxx with a hunter with De-Raged Waraxe. It gets better, though...

He walked out with Envoy.

Kek.

Comment by decorativepot

My friend (Death Knight) and I (Hunter) were joking around and kiting the first two trash mobs in The Clash of Thunder. After 20 minutes and countless tries, we actually got them down. This gun dropped from one of them (Dark Rune Ravager to be exact) and since I was the only one who actually could use a gun I picked it up for jokes sake. Good luck to those warriors who want this.

....

And no, I'm not going to actually use it.

Comment by Kadesh

Yes, STR isn't the first stat, or even the 5th stat, hunters should look for, but it's not a wasted stat on hunters. It adds to AP, which increase damage both to range and pets damage. Granted AGI would be better then STR, but if the hunter was using a lot lower DPS range weapon it would make better since then not. Understandably if the hunter is in Ulduar and have a gun a lot lower then this one they should really reconsider and run Naxx for a gun more specific to the class.

Comment by alvarezz

This is an upgrade for most hunters from an iLevel 200 item (might depend on spec for some). Just because it wastes budget on strength, don't write it off - that big base DPS increase is still a factor.

To the first poster, of course Envoy of Mortality is way better, it is a 226 level item for one thing, but if you are running around with the Nesingwary or the Drake-Mounted Crossbow, this is better. Plus, it is really pretty good for PVP - Stam plus high weapon damage for burst - not bad at all. If this drops in your raid, and you've got a hunter with a level 200 weapon, let 'em have it!

Comment by Schryver

I just got this tonight (fury warrior). Even with the recent buff to imp berserker stance, my stats all drop with it equipped compared to the Nesigwary 4000 with a +8strength and +8 crit gem in it (even with the 10% strength bonus from BoK). I gain haste but that isn't enough to increase total damage. Plus I lose a little bit of crit. I haven't decided if I'm gonna use it or not. I will have to see if it ultimately is better that Nesingwary.

Comment by jorgamund

This should probably be renamed "free abyss crystal".

Comment by kingkingdon

Hehe, i'm a warrior tank and i got this yesterday from a trash mob in the Conservatory of Life just for my dps spec because nobody else could use it. Little did i know that this is actually the best ranged weapon for warriors xD simply for the reason of it having strength. There is in fact no other epic lvl 80 ranged weapon that has strength on it.

Comment by Sanforde

Yes, this may be good for a warrior for the added strength and crit, but also for a hunter who is in need of a upgrade fromhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=39296. Until a better gun or bow drops for me in Ulduar, i'll keep using it since my dps went up a significant amount from the bow.

Comment by rasat

Dropped yesterday from trash group. Almost the best warrior weapon ever. But not so great as The Sharp Cookie

Comment by Bobaganoosh

Quite possibly the last piece of gear without a class requirement that is JUST for DPS warriors.

Edit: typo

Comment by Psilocybian

Hang on, I'm supposed to shoot it? I thought it was just for show....

On a serious note, I would cry tears of blood if a hunter won this over me, it's like a warrior rolling on a caster sword because it has more dps on it.

Caster weapons only have 100 dps on them tops. It would be impossible for a caster weapon to be an upgrade for a melee dps.

Comment by Saruko

Oh damn a gun that's made specially for DPS warriors.

God knows how many warriors are wanting this.

Comment by Thrakin

I quite honestly have a nagging feeling that this was made to faciliate hunters crying about losing their guns to warriors...

Edit: I'd like to see some QQ reply from the butthurt hunter who downrated me.

Comment by Maegord

I'm a prot warrior(Dualspec Arms) Got this today out of a ulduar pug i was in, lol the pug fell apart after 1pull in there, but this weapon dropped and no one else wanted it, go it for offspec, looks awsome too :)

Comment by fahartle

You lose 21 stamina, but if you're already hit and defense capped, then that is the only dramatic loss. In exchange you pick up added strength for block, and a goodly amount of extra damage/threat. In Ulduar or other challenging situations you most probably want to stick to your pure tanking weapon as every hitpoint is so vital. But I would love to slap this on during easier guild Naxx runs.

Comment by smanzo

I feel so dirty for having picked this up, but it was actually an upgrade from the Nesingwary 4000 my Hunter has had the last few months, since other ranged weapons refuse to drop when I raid...

Comment by Whorane

I don't know why my comment got rated down but haste is the worst stat there is for an arms warrior. It is bad, it is terrible and should be avoided. There are pieces with armor pen which are 500 times better than the equal haste counter part or even a higher ilvl piece with haste where the lower ilvl one with arp is still superior because haste is so very bad. Crit, is not something you should worry about, do not gem 16 crit, str is superior and arp is very superior. An arms warrior should/must pick up grim toll or mjornir though, please note that's an or and NOT both. The proc is 50% armor pen, battle stance is 10% armor pen, which means that arp is superior to str until 40%. Hit cap is first priority though, if you are not hit capped, gem hit. The expertise cap is not as important, but if you have 0 expertise you should gem some for sure.And again something that needs to be realized, haste is bad, very bad.

I'm speaking for arms warriors, fury I do not know about.

Comment by PHOENIXZERO

Waaaaaay too much Stamina for what is basically a Plate DPS stat stick, the Nesingwary 4000 is still better thanks to having more AP due to the gem slot (plus flexibility) and bonus, even if you're a Fury Warrior with Kings. Not to mention the haste is for the most part a waste. Then again, certain people at Blizzard think we plate DPS like it on gear....

EDIT: Love people that don't have the balls to reply to something they rate down.

Comment by CocoWoW

It's a "repeater", and it has haste.

First machine gun avalible to players?

Comment by chop360

Me want some more ranged weapons for a plate dps :(

Comment by Ssateneth

Pretty damn good 80 warrior ranged weapon .. in cata, since theres almost no other strength non-tanked ranged weapons.

Comment by Neutralis

I like how it lights up and steam comes out of the sides when you hold it.