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Suffolk is a very underrated school, and I think that it is indeed better than NESL. Having said that, the lawyers I know who went to NESL all spoke well of their experience there.

I would choose Suffolk, for one more reason that you may not have even considered yet: You may find that your interests change after some time in law school. What if you realize that you were BORN to do intellectual property? It could happen...so with that in mind, I think Suffolk will prepare you for work as a lawyer, generally speaking.

I agree- not that Howard isn't a good school because it's a great school and I was a little sad that I got rejected but your best chance at getting a big job after Howard would be if you were black

No offense, but that's ridiculous. White students DO go to Howard, you know, and are not at any greater disadvantage for getting jobs because they went to a school that has a large minority population.

What SHOULD factor in your decision is: Where you want to practice, the school's bar passage rate, the cost, and obviously, whether the school has the programs you're looking for.

lol backatcha. I didn't ask about Pace per se, but the Dean at my undergrad school (RI College) spoke well of Pace, and spoke of an old friend of his from Princeton(!) who completely bombed on his LSATS and ended up at Pace (this was back in the late 70s, when Pace may have had NO reputation to speak of. But he said that his friend does well.

I was impressed with Albany as well on my visit. The campus has an allure to it, and their admissions director makes a tremendous pitch. Was tough to choose Pace, but sometimes you have to go with your gut. I've forged a few relationships up there.

FWIW, I wound up not applying to Suffolk, because of cost concerns suppred by Boston. THAT was a tough call, because Suffolk is sorely underrated.

For me if Suffolk came back with a yes (which I call and they say I'm still in committee) it would be down to Pace and them. (my dad went to Suffolk).

Well, for me, being on the WL, I'm not even sure how easy it would be to get offered a seat. Suffolk is VERY underrated, no question. Then again, I've talked to NYC lawyers who say the same thing about ALS grads. They seem to "know their stuff," according to my sources.

Yup, ALS puts a third in NYC. A quarter of their grads work in/on government/municipal in some capacity.

The environmental law thing with Pace, for me, distingiuishes the school this way: because env ironemntal is so interdisciplinary, I bet it has the effect of making thier first-year instruction (propoerty, contracts, torts) unusually strong and perhaps also bolsters its commcercial, litigation, science/tech/health, governmental and even IP instruction. That's the sense I get -- that I'm getting a lot more than tree-hugging Veganism. :-)

A good point. I like the idea of tying Environmental to Land Use, myself.

Albany's bar passage rate went up to 88%, actually. I just chose Pace over Albany -- VERY hard decision to make. But I chose Pace for its proximity to NYC and because it offered me a little bit of money. It surprised me, btw that neither school made it to T2, what with their bar passage increases and trends toward more competitive classes and stronger clinics.

I think Pace is good as well, especially for Environmental Law, but a far as NYC goes, ALS's career center reports that a third of recent grads have gone down to NYC. I'm sure that these were top students.

Good question...Obviously, it's a hunch, but Suffolk moved to T3 this year, and their LSAT median is up to 157, probably rising...Albany's bar passage rate went up to 80%, their student/faculty ratio is down to 14 to 1, and they cut their total class size down to 680 from over 800. Maybe this is wishful thinking on my part, tho.

Both are good schools that have a good network in their respective areas. Both cost roughly the same (Albany 37K v. Suffolk 35K). Both have great clinical programs, good moot court/trial ad programs. Both are in the capitols of their respective states. Both have offered me no $$$... Both have a fair chance of reaching T2 within three years.

1. Albany has a WAY lower COL than Boston, yet Suffolk is nearer to my hometown (Providence), should I choose to move back there at some point.

2. Albany's LRAP program is a bit more generous than Suffolk's.

3. Suffolk grads do excellent in RI (many judges, current AG, etc...)...wait, so does Albany...