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Galley Boys are slop on top of a so-so burger and a bun you coulde get from a Covneninet food mart generic pack. They the Antoine Joubert of burgers; soft, sloppy, oozing grease and cheap sauce and extremely overrated by a biased fan base. Proof that if you throw enough cheap sauce shit on a burger you still can't overcome the lame burger. -JB

None of those stories are great, but the Ray Lewis one is just awful. It's like no one remembers it at all. He is treated like a hero when at the very least he was involved in a death, if not the main murderer.

bac5665 wrote:None of those stories are great, but the Ray Lewis one is just awful. It's like no one remembers it at all. He is treated like a hero when at the very least he was involved in a death, if not the main murderer.

I could not possibly agree more with this. I was sick of the Ray Lewis crap when he tore his arm up earlier in the season, let alone now that we've had three more weeks of jackasses who have been falling all over themselves to come up with the most poetic send off for this murdering thug since he made it official that this was his "last ride."

And as a little side point - there's nothing fishy at all about a 37-year old linebacker coming back and playing at his pre-injury level just two and a half months after an injury that should have taken at least 3 months simply to heal to the point where he could start rehabbing it.

“Of the ones that were repaired, they generally missed a whole season to come back, but most were able to come back and play,” Yagnik said. “It’s not necessarily a career-ending injury, though.”

Lewis had surgery Wednesday, and the Ravens put him on injured reserve with the designation that he could return this season. That seems like wishful thinking even if the Ravens make the Super Bowl because, Glashow said, a tendon is not fully healed for three months. That does not include the time it would take Lewis to regain the normal strength in his arm. Berry and Warren both said it took them about six months.

I'm sure PEDs were not involved there. After all, Ray Lewis is an angel.

---"It was great training being there. They do it with character and intelligence. They run that organization the right way. They build through the draft. They're patient. It's just the right way to do it. It was a tremendous opportunity to be with them." Jimmy Haslam on why he'd model the Browns after the Steelers, 10/16/12

Anybody who insists that it's "God's Destiny" that he and his team makes the Super Bowl gets a huge GFYS from me.

Yes Ray, God took time out of his busy schedule of potentially helping someone with a terminal diseases, starving children, and warring nations finding peace so that you, a multimillionaire, that escaped a conviction, and plays a fucking game for a living, to help you win a football game that has zero impact on the course of human history.

And yes, there's idiot kids my age who worship the jackass and buy his jersey, etc. And, no, not just in Baltimore, here in Cleveland too.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

bac5665 wrote:None of those stories are great, but the Ray Lewis one is just awful. It's like no one remembers it at all. He is treated like a hero when at the very least he was involved in a death, if not the main murderer.

bac5665 wrote:None of those stories are great, but the Ray Lewis one is just awful. It's like no one remembers it at all. He is treated like a hero when at the very least he was involved in a death, if not the main murderer.

Not just one death, but two.

America loves the comeback story, the redemption story. It is pretty simple. If you don't like the Ravens, you think Ray got away with murder. If you like the Ravens or are indifferent, you admire him for what he has been through. There is no middle ground on this one. If Modell does not move the team, Triple S has got his room wallpapered with #52 all over it.

bac5665 wrote:None of those stories are great, but the Ray Lewis one is just awful. It's like no one remembers it at all. He is treated like a hero when at the very least he was involved in a death, if not the main murderer.

Not just one death, but two.

America loves the comeback story, the redemption story. It is pretty simple. If you don't like the Ravens, you think Ray got away with murder. If you like the Ravens or are indifferent, you admire him for what he has been through. There is no middle ground on this one. If Modell does not move the team, Triple S has got his room wallpapered with #52 all over it.

And if my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle...

The first rule of Fight Club is: Don't tell Chuck Norris about Fight Club.

Proud of my husband and the Pats. By the way, if anyone is bored, please go to Ray Lewis’ Wikipedia page. 6 kids 4 wives. Acquitted for murder. Paid a family off. Yay. What a hall of fame player! A true role model!

"There is but one thing of real value: to cultivate truth and justice and to live without anger in the midst of lying and unjust men"

Proud of my husband and the Pats. By the way, if anyone is bored, please go to Ray Lewis’ Wikipedia page. 6 kids 4 wives. Acquitted for murder. Paid a family off. Yay. What a hall of fame player! A true role model!

And to think, that's not even the best reason I've seen to like Wes Welker's wife.

---"It was great training being there. They do it with character and intelligence. They run that organization the right way. They build through the draft. They're patient. It's just the right way to do it. It was a tremendous opportunity to be with them." Jimmy Haslam on why he'd model the Browns after the Steelers, 10/16/12

Proud of my husband and the Pats. By the way, if anyone is bored, please go to Ray Lewis’ Wikipedia page. 6 kids 4 wives. Acquitted for murder. Paid a family off. Yay. What a hall of fame player! A true role model!

And to think, that's not even the best reason I've seen to like Wes Welker's wife.

Yeah, she'd get it

"There is but one thing of real value: to cultivate truth and justice and to live without anger in the midst of lying and unjust men"

How awesome is that photo of Phil Spector, he looks like one of the Hair Bears

Galley Boys are slop on top of a so-so burger and a bun you coulde get from a Covneninet food mart generic pack. They the Antoine Joubert of burgers; soft, sloppy, oozing grease and cheap sauce and extremely overrated by a biased fan base. Proof that if you throw enough cheap sauce shit on a burger you still can't overcome the lame burger. -JB

of course there's the possiblity that Modell gets in the HOF while some jackass sportswriters from other cities tell us to "get over it".

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

mattvan1 wrote:Curious as to whether you receive any perks from Peeks or Swerb for trolling these boards in an effort to spark angry discussion. Is traffic really that low?

No perks. I am just able to be unbiased with most of my views and I am able to at the very least review both sides of the argument with an open mind.

Then I would encourage you to join in the discussion more frequently, as opposed to only when the Ravens are in the Super Bowl, Art is up for the HOF, you are defending the QB skills of Tim Tebow, or when some Steeler player is arrested.

Someone who has so much to offer should be a regular, IMO.

I don't need to be patient, they're going to be shit forever. - CDT, discussing my favorite NFL team

mattvan1 wrote:Then I would encourage you to join in the discussion more frequently, as opposed to only when the Ravens are in the Super Bowl, Art is up for the HOF, you are defending the QB skills of Tim Tebow, or when some Steeler player is arrested.

Someone who has so much to offer should be a regular, IMO.

Thanks for the kudos Matt and I appreciate your following, but I do not have the time to be a regular.

I would much rather my fellow Blue Streak Roman brings home the Super Bowl victory, but I have some cash to be won if the Ravens win thanks to Hiko and a futures bet in Vegas.

mattvan1 wrote:Then I would encourage you to join in the discussion more frequently, as opposed to only when the Ravens are in the Super Bowl, Art is up for the HOF, you are defending the QB skills of Tim Tebow, or when some Steeler player is arrested.

Someone who has so much to offer should be a regular, IMO.

Thanks for the kudos Matt and I appreciate your following, but I do not have the time to be a regular.

I would much rather my fellow Blue Streak Roman brings home the Super Bowl victory, but I have some cash to be won if the Ravens win thanks to Hiko and a futures bet in Vegas.

mattvan1 wrote:Then I would encourage you to join in the discussion more frequently, as opposed to only when the Ravens are in the Super Bowl, Art is up for the HOF, you are defending the QB skills of Tim Tebow, or when some Steeler player is arrested.

Someone who has so much to offer should be a regular, IMO.

Thanks for the kudos Matt and I appreciate your following, but I do not have the time to be a regular.

I would much rather my fellow Blue Streak Roman brings home the Super Bowl victory, but I have some cash to be won if the Ravens win thanks to Hiko and a futures bet in Vegas.

I wonder which team I'll be rooting for next Sunday...

I will save you $50. You can surrender anytime up until game time and pay only $50.

I don't think so. I think Flacco is a good QB. For periods of time he can be better than that and for shorter periods of time he can be elite. There are also periods of time he can be less than good and shorter periods of time when you say, WTF was that?Too much variance to be considered same level as the elite guys we talk about. But dude ain't Dilfer and he ain't Woodley or anyone else. And his WTF are being more and more outweighed by the good stuff each year. He and Ryan are the same guy IMO. Both tremendously gifted and talented with a fatal flaw that occasionally exposes itself.

But you can win with Flacco playing reasonably well. Just like this game is probably Flacco v. Ryan if Roddy White doesn't slip. Just like last year was Flacco v. Eli if Lee Evans doesn't drop a ball.

Flacco realistically should be playing in 2nd of back to back SBs. And I think his talent and play is pretty reflective of that.

Man, it would really be hard to shake that loss, if you're a Denver fan.

Here, you come off a playoff season and replace the reason you got there- the whipping boy who got shipped off to the east- with a lock HOF QB. Who comes in and plays like himself- and better than anyone could have expected, post neck surgery. They were the favorite, dammit.

That horrible pass across the body must have hurt, really bad. As was the meltdown of the defense, not to mention the head coach. We've seen AFC Championship games lost on a brain fart, and on a choke job. But to lose this chance to go to the Super Bowl as a result of both?

Let us not forget that a HoF CB was beaten like a rug over and over and over again all game long that day too. Torii Smith should have had to sign papers given how much he owned of Champ Bailey.

So yeah, the pathetic coverage on the Jones TD was brutally bad, but so was the throw by Manning and the effort of Bailey all afternoon. And it's moot if Trindon Holliday doesn't go off for two return TDs as well. And I think I recall Corey Graham running back another Manning int for a TD.

Flacco played well that day and Sunday. Guy's thrown for ~600 yards, 6 TDs and NO Ints. And he's outplayed a couple solid QBs while doing it.

A lot of people still slob Eli's knob for those kind of late season and playoff runs. I'd put Flacco in that category. And that's good enough and IMO it ain't anything close to Pandora's Box being opened and announcing a bunch of shit birds or mediocrities are now ready to win a Super Bowl.

Or is he still just the ordinary Joe that he always was, and does that bolster the concept that you don't need an "elite" QB to win a Ring (even though it obviously helps)?

SB or no SB, I feel that any one of these QB's is better RIGHT NOW than Flacco: Rodgers, Brady, Manning, Manning, Brees, Roethlisberger, RG3, Luck, Kaepernick, Wilson, Cutler, Newton, Ryan.

Some of those can obviously be argued, but I think it is clear that Flacco isn't a Top 10 QB no matter if he wins the Lombardi or not.

And then you have to wonder how far even the Meh QB's of the league have to jump to become Flaccos.

Obviously I was one that didn't think a Flacco had a chance in hell of winning it all or I wouldn't have made that stupid bet. I haven't decided yet if this would change my view of Flacco or Sam Bradford's chances at winning it all with the right team.

Hikohadon wrote:To HooDoo's point, there are many arguments that can be made here.

If Flacco wins, does that make him elite?

Was he elite before he won the SB?

Or is he still just the ordinary Joe that he always was, and does that bolster the concept that you don't need an "elite" QB to win a Ring (even though it obviously helps)?

SB or no SB, I feel that any one of these QB's is better RIGHT NOW than Flacco: Rodgers, Brady, Manning, Manning, Brees, Roethlisberger, RG3, Luck, Kaepernick, Wilson, Cutler, Newton, Ryan.

Some of those can obviously be argued, but I think it is clear that Flacco isn't a Top 10 QB no matter if he wins the Lombardi or not.

And then you have to wonder how far even the Meh QB's of the league have to jump to become Flaccos.

Obviously I was one that didn't think a Flacco had a chance in hell of winning it all or I wouldn't have made that stupid bet. I haven't decided yet if this would change my view of Flacco or Sam Bradford's chances at winning it all with the right team.

I'm not arguing this. No way. Not with someone that has Cutler, Wilson, Cam, Kaepernick and Eli in his group of elite guys and is arguing Flacco's not at least what they are if not much more than most of those guys.

RIGHT NOW (as you put up there) !!

You go ahead and craft whatever argument you think you need to make to fit your position. I give. Ordinary mopes can win it all because you think Flacco is ordinary and that Nope. Not gonna do it. You and I just need to not talk QBs. Because I think you're absolutely batshit crazy and I have no idea what you see or how you're looking at these guys.