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Kolb- D 854 side and almost swamp the boat, waves that would break over the boat and fill it, -- we called those rapids; these others, where the waves were a foot high, -- they would be running fifteen miles an hour -- we would call them riffles. BY MR. FARNSWORTH: Q How many miles? A Fifteen mils. BY MR. BLACKMAR: Q What was the date of your arrival at Lee's Ferry? A Saturday, October 8, 1921. Q On your first trip you spoke of some coal barge that was under construction downs there. Did you see that on your second trip? A No, I didn't see. it. Q Between Greenriver and Lee's Ferry did you meet any other boats other than this boat of Wimmer's that you mentioned? A There was a survey party, Mr. Hough, working at the mouth of the Escalante, and when we were at Hall's Crossing another party came in with a canoe for this Mr. Hough's party; they had been using a flat- bottom boat with a motor coming up, and they had abandoned the motor and used the oars. The oarsman was more familiar with canoes than he was with boats, and he couldn't do anything with the boat, he said, and he sent out for a canoe, and they brought this canoe is at that time when we were there; they came in before we left, 2824