One of the things I personally enjoy about Disneyland are the Main Street vehicles which run in the mornings. Though funny enough, I have never ridden in one, I do however feel they bring a wonderful ambiance to Main Street U.S.A.

As I was pondering, I was walking back past Circle D, and started wondering what they did with the Disneyland Stagecoaches. At which point I started to wonder why they don't have Stagecoach rides through Frontierland.

Come dream with me for a moment (I do apologize that I do not have many pictures). The ride would roll pass the Golden Horseshoe, along the dock of the Mark Twain and Sailing Ship Columbia. Pulling up the hill which leads to the peaceful wooden bridge. Pulling to the right to make it's turn just before entering Fantasyland, but past Big Thunder Ranch. Making it's trip.

It might be necessary to make a Stage stop a little past Big Thunder Ranch. The best location for this stop (and help make more room for a full turn area) would be where the area just before the phones, though after the smoking area and around the curve (not sure if someone might have a picture of this area). Pull the path back, and adding a Stage station, not only would add to the theme, but also give a somewhat blank area something to look at, and a little life.

I'm sorry once again that I don't have pictures, the only picture I have is one of the Disneyland Stagecoach, much like the one Walt used around his studios before Disneyland opened (it might be the same one).

Not only would this plan bring back some much needed theme to Frontierland, it would also bring a piece of history back to Disneyland.

very interesting idea....I just think the lawyers would not let it happen because it is

A) not on a track
B) people could get hit by the stagecoach in some freak accident
C) why would Disneyadd theme to the park...I mean..put money into something awesome like that :)

09-22-2008, 12:29 AM

CinderellaPrincess

Re: Frontierland Stagecoach

I always thought that stage coach rides in Frontierland would be perfect!

One thing i always liked about Knott's was being able to take the coach thru the park...
That was my fav thing to do when i went as a kid...

Good dream! Maybe someday they will!

09-22-2008, 06:48 AM

DisneyIPresume

Re: Frontierland Stagecoach

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Originally Posted by CinderellaPrincess

I always thought that stage coach rides in Frontierland would be perfect!

One thing i always liked about Knott's was being able to take the coach thru the park...
That was my fav thing to do when i went as a kid...

Good dream! Maybe someday they will!

They still have the stagecoach at Knott's although at times it feels like you're on the HOV flyover connector lanes like they have on the 55 North to I5 North than something more authentic like the OP is suggesting.

09-22-2008, 09:22 AM

ttrocc7007

Re: Frontierland Stagecoach

from what I've read, those things used to topple over!
Likewise, the area that it used to run is now mostly occupied by roller coaster track (Big Thunder Mountain).

09-22-2008, 10:15 AM

Datameister

Re: Frontierland Stagecoach

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Originally Posted by ttrocc7007

Likewise, the area that it used to run is now mostly occupied by roller coaster track (Big Thunder Mountain).

There's still a large area occupied by the Festival Arena and Big Thunder Ranch. Those aren't exactly high-demand attractions - the former isn't even open to the public! - so they could easily be replaced.

My main concern about the stagecoaches would be safety. While it's always a bummer when part of Disneyland gets sterilized to keep the lawyers away, this is one case in which I can kinda understand it, though perhaps they'd be safer than I imagine.

On a side note - I'm highly envious of your ability to just walk right on by Circle D, DisneyMouse. ;) Darn cast members...actually, in all seriousness, though, weren't those Disneyland stagecoaches being stored in that small red building by Circle D a few years back? I dunno if they still are.

09-22-2008, 12:12 PM

thrax

Re: Frontierland Stagecoach

interestign idea-unfortunatly thats the way its gotta stay.

theres no room for a stage coach. and it just seems to dangerous.

09-22-2008, 01:26 PM

DisneyMouse

Re: Frontierland Stagecoach

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Originally Posted by Hilsbro

A) not on a track
B) people could get hit by the stagecoach in some freak accident

Safety is a huge issue, though to address A and B, I simply draw your attention to Main Street with Horse Drawn Carriages and Motorized Vehicles. I understand that the Horse Drawn Carriages are on a track making it a little safer, though it can still be just as dangerous. They have a very good record there on Main street.

The biggest safety concern I can think of would be going up and down the hill near the exit of Big Thunder Mountain.

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Originally Posted by ttrocc7007

Likewise, the area that it used to run is now mostly occupied by roller coaster track (Big Thunder Mountain).

I'm not Proposing a whole new area being built specifically for this Attraction; but simply adding it to the common area. This would not be an attraction which takes a Stagecoach full speed, but merely on a mosey much like they do on Main Street.

Not only that, but there would most likely only be one running at any time.

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Originally Posted by thrax

theres no room for a stage coach. and it just seems to dangerous.

The Stagecoach would only run during the mornings, or when the crowds are light (much like the Main Street Vehicles).

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Originally Posted by Datameister

On a side note - I'm highly envious of your ability to just walk right on by Circle D, DisneyMouse. ;) Darn cast members...actually, in all seriousness, though, weren't those Disneyland stagecoaches being stored in that small red building by Circle D a few years back? I dunno if they still are.

It's truly beautiful, though just like any Guest, we're not allowed to enter Circle D without being escorted by an authorized Cast Member. I merely walked up to their entrance where they have pictures of all the past Attractions which used to be Horse Drawn; that's why it sparked my interest to know that Walt used to take guests around the Disneyland Studios one of the Disneyland Stagecoaches before Disneyland was opened.

In all honesty I'm not too familiar with Circle D, though I know one of the Stagecoaches has been left to the weather between Circle D and the berm.

In all honesty, it would simply be nice to see something like this sitting in fount of the Golden Horseshoe again; or trotting past Big Thunder Ranch.

Heck, maybe the lucky guy who gets to marry Sallie Mae wins a trip with his family and friends in the coach? Maybe only the Maryor get's get chose who rides it.

Point is, it would bring some much needed theme to Frontierland, and a whole lot of ambiance and history back to Disneyland's Frontierland.

09-22-2008, 02:27 PM

Mojave

Re: Frontierland Stagecoach

To be truly authentic, the stagecoaches would have to run on dirt. Having stagecoaches in Frontierland on slurry in the same way that there are vehicles on Main Street wouldn't work. Yes, I know, if you go back far enough, Main Streets also were dirt, but eventually they were paved, so the current paving of Main Street fits, where as stagecoaches on slurry wouldn't.

Seems like too many safety issues, for people and for horses, cleanliness issues, no space, no full theming possible.

I will say, I'm very excited about the Red Trolleys coming to DCA!

09-22-2008, 11:12 PM

DisneyMouse

Re: Frontierland Stagecoach

I just simply want to add more theme to Frontierland, and I have no doubt it would work, if only for a few hours every morning.

When I think of the old west, or Frontier, I think horses, stagecoaches, high noon shootouts, a Jail, and a Tavern. We have one of five... I think Disneyland can do better.

09-22-2008, 11:20 PM

Hilsbro

Re: Frontierland Stagecoach

it would be pretty interesting to have a stage coach robbery...that can add motion to the land. It can also make it seem more realistic with a shoot out and the robbers and maybe a jail for "misbehavin' city folk"

09-23-2008, 01:08 AM

DisneyMouse

Re: Frontierland Stagecoach

This is what I'm talking about Hilsbro, but you need to start somewhere.

09-23-2008, 12:56 PM

Mickeyfan3

Re: Frontierland Stagecoach

I have pics of my mom and my aunt riding in the DL Stagecoach in 1955....will try to find and post. I'd love it if they added more authentic stuff to Frontierland...