DeSean: The Booing Doesn’t Help

He understands why the fans get frustrated, and he understands that the players need to give them something to cheer about, especially after 10 straight home losses.

But he also believes the cheers benefit the team more than the boos, so a little encouragement early on, even if things aren’t going the Eagles’ way, would be a big help.

"We have a nasty trend going at home so whatever we need to do to fix that - all support, everybody in the stands just really encouraging instead of the opposite. That's really more of what I meant by it. Just trying to get that energy to be on our side and not feel like it's against us sometimes."

Jackson was asked to clarify that he's not blaming the fans.

"Never blaming," he said. "That's not what I meant when I said that. I just expressed it. Going into the games sometime, we're three minutes into a game when you hear boos and things like that, so that's kind of crazy to hear, especially when you're at home. You never blame that for the reason why you're losing because we're professional athletes, we've got a job to go out there and win a game. So within our locker room, there's no game where we feel we don't have a shot at winning.

"Just to say that energy helps us kind of get going. When we feel we already have to beat an opponent, now we're trying to fight our fans and things like that. Just that energy to help us go out there and have that support to win regardless of a dropped pass or interception, delay of game penalty, whatever it is. It's like we need them on our side, not against us, so that's kind of more of what I meant. Can't blame nobody else but ourselves for losing the game. So as long as we're just able to have that energy to help us go out there and win, that's what we need."

Jackson is in his sixth season. He gets why fans boo. And he also remembers what things were like when the Eagles were winning at the Linc, like in 2009 when they went 6-2.

But he said some of the younger players might not have the same understanding yet about the fan base and the city.

"I think for myself, I understand it, being here six years," Jackson said. "And I can understand where the frustration comes from and why our fans are the way they are. But to the younger guys, I don't think they really understand the ins and outs of why it is we're getting booed and the frustration of where it's coming from. So I'll take the booing. Let them boo me. Just don't boo the younger guys.

"It's just something we can sense, we can feel it. Myself, like I say, being here in the past and just hearing what's going on, what's being said and things like that. That definitely doesn't help. But it's not to make it out to be anything to blame it on our fans because at the end of the day, they support us and they do a good job of that. So to clarify, we do hear it and we're out there trying to do everything we can to win games. So we just need the support, regardless of if we're doing good or we're doing bad, just to support us. That's basically what I meant."

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Nah__Roots

Play good and you get cheers, play poorly and you get boos. It’s a real easy formula.

Don_the_Hun

Is it really that simple? I mean if we are “fanatics” why should we only cheer in the good times. Sounds pretty fair-weather to me. I guess if that is what being a fan is now, I need to figure out something else to call myself.

Andy124

I will say this; Good or bad, it’s definitely true.

Don_the_Hun

Very good point. A sad one, but good.

bentheimmigrant

It takes passion and commitment to feel the need to boo a poor performance, and it’s been going on in the NFL, not just Philly, for decades. Probably for since the game got popular. Fair weather fans stop showing up to the games halfway through 2011.

Don_the_Hun

I can see your point, but I think it takes even more to cheer on a team while they aren’t performing their best. I think critizing our team should be done in private not when we have company over.

bentheimmigrant

I get that, I really do. And I personally wouldn’t be booing minor things early. But at the end of the day, that’s my only shot to let them know how they’re making me feel with their playing. I’ve only gotten to go to two games. A good one and an awful one. I booed when the play deserved it.

Don_the_Hun

I see that as well it really is the only time fans get to say “you guys need to get it together”

Spooonius

I’m pretty sure that they’re already aware that they need to “get it together”. Here’s a guy (Jackson) saying that for the team to have the best chance to win, please create a positive atmosphere in the workplace. And we still assert our right to boo. I’m not talking about anyone on here, so please don’t take it personally.

Everybody thinks they know Philly. You don’t. You just like Mike Vick. Why are you here?

G_WallyHunter

WELL SAID DJAX
Didn’t know he was capable of putting together such in-depth thoughts and conclusions

Will

Cheers give better Ch’i…

reb

great shots! where are you getting these?

Will

Bing search DeSean Jackson pics Green Bay…Oakland…Washington…ect…

Jason

I live in Seattle and the whole week last week the entire sports radio scene was talking about the booing Seahawk fans where doing in the Tampa game. And that is a fan base that hasn’t lost a home game in like 3 years. If they are booing, I think it is probably ok for Philly fans to be booing after having lost 10 straight.

Coatesvillain

There’s also context. They were booing after several miscues (turnover in red zone, fumbled kick return) and were down 21-0 to a winless team. That’s understandable.

BlindChow

Eagles fans have been booing 10 games worth of miscues!

Coatesvillain

But if the team is coming off a two game winning streak that doesn’t earn them any good will and patience in the first quarter?

Jason

Seriously? Of course there is also context. I am pretty sure every time Eagle fans boo there is some context as well.

djack10

The boo in Seattle doesn’t hold a candle to Philly. Even their best attempts to voice displeasure during that game don’t even come close to the venom of a boo in Philly. It’s nasty.

Adam

He means well, but this will get twisted and thrown back in his face. Might as well just not say anything.

JofreyRice

Eh, I actually don’t mind what he’s saying. He’s observing that cheering makes the team feel better than booing. He’s not badmouthing fans, or blaming them for the poor record, just trying to put that point out there for consideration.

Don_the_Hun

Yeah well its still going to be taken as bad-mouthing or complaining. I mean I hate when people use the formula of play good we cheer, play bad we boo. I mean to me that is as fair-weather as it gets. Not saying I’m not upset about not winning at home, but I’m sure going do my part in trying to help the team in getting one if I ever get to go to the Linc.

JofreyRice

I’m not cheering if guys show up and leave a loose turd all over the field, for 10 home games in a row. I’m booing them, heartily, when the moment takes me. But I appreciate what Desean’s saying, and I have no problem with the way he’s saying it.

To me, a fairweather fan is someone that’s only following the team when they’re good. That’s not this. The Eagles generally renew about 99.7% of season tickets yearly, and have a waiting list of 40K waiting to pay the huge $$$ of season tickets (from their website)–even tho they won 4 games last year, and had about 4 quality wins the year before. Despite the wisdom of our board dunce, the vast majority of fans don’t go to those lengths to show up, scream, get drunk, and upchuck in public.

Coatesvillain

I’ve been to games and have booed in the past. It is the way to show displeasure. It just kinda irks me when people rush to boo an early first quarter miscue. I never understood that.

Tom W

Fans don’t boo in most towns. Its definitely a philly thing. Now its talked about so much year after year that every drunk who goes to an eagles game feels he has to boo if the team goes 3 and out. Same reason everyone worries when an ex player or coach comes back .. like mcnabb and reid and lindros and rolen … always worried about the boos because we boo incessantly. go to the a temple or lasalle basketball game .. those fans don’t boo. flyers fans dont boo. most sixers fans don’t boo. just the drunk dopes. Its such a joke.

JofreyRice

You’re wrong. Fans boo everywhere. New York, Seattle, Baltimore, KC. The Chiefs fans went so far as cheering when Matt Cassel got injured last year. There are numerous examples, do some research.

BlindChow

Saints fans booed Mark Ingram when he dropped that easy catch in the first quarter of the game Sunday night. It’s not like he was a rookie making his first start. He had a history of underwhelming performances. Yet once he broke out later in the game, the fans came around.

Fans are the same everywhere. They will boo players who repeatedly fail to live up to their potential, and will forgive them and cheer like crazy when they perform like champions.

djack10

lived in seattle for years. they don’t boo. not even remotely close to a philly boo. i mean they try to show displeasure but its not in them genetically. they may give it a try here and there, but it is nothing like the cascade of boos you can get at an eagles game. remember the arizona game where desean was deactivated, maclin got hurt on the first series and we basically gave the game away with the famous steve smith invisible tackle in his one freaking game all year? the boos during that game were absolutely justified. the team effort was horrendous. no heart. total signs of reid losing his grip on the team. thats when eagles fans should boo. not because of some stupid mistake in the first quarter.

djack10

flyers fans dont boo? are you kidding me? that game against NJ and the game before that against Washington were absolutely some of the worst hockey the flyers have ever played and they were booed. heartily. incessantly. and justifiably. i wasnt at either game, but when athletes of their caliber and talent dont show up and even put up a fight, they deserve to hear it. its not acceptable in philadelphia.

Nah__Roots

Do you stand up, clap your hands, and cheer when the Eagles have a turnover, give up a touchdown, lose the game etc.?

Look. If you spend money on apparel and a ticket, drive out to the Linc on a Sunday, and sit your ass in the stands on a cold November day to see what your team is gonna bring then you have already proven your “fandom”.

Don_the_Hun

First I do wanna say I haven’t had the opportunity to attend a game at the stadium. I don’t cheer, but I do encourage. You know the old “we’ll get it back fellas”, stuff like that.

anon

nah can’t be a fair weather fan.

Tom W

fair weather. just shut up and sit here. Cheer when they do good. boo when they lose. or dont come. your 100 bucks is no different than anyone else. you chose to buy the ticket ..if you gonna be miserable .. stay out in the parking lot and slam your head against your car.

Eagles4Life

L O L

bentheimmigrant

And if you pay 100 bucks or so to get in, sit there in some freezing weather and the D is missing tackles, the O is turning the ball over and the kick returner is bringing it out from deep in the end one and barely getting past the ten, you gonna stand there and sing the fight song? You’d be the only one.

djack10

the point of going to a game and paying for that ticket is not to have an entitlement to boo. it’s an opportunity to help support the team and pick them up when they are down and keep the opponent down as much as possible. seattle gets this, hence the 12th man stuff. philly fans are too focused on their rights to boo. it’s missing the point of being a fan in the first place.

bentheimmigrant

Seattle fans gave booing a good try this week.

bentheimmigrant

Meh. The few games I’ve managed to get to, I went to see the Eagles play, not to boo. I expected effort, and some kind of intelligence. I mentioned elsewhere that one of those games was the Vikings tuesday game. And yeah, after it became clear that neither Andy nor Vick were doing anything to stop Winfield, and the whole O looked insultingly bad, and the D couldn’t stop a third string scrub, I booed. I don’t care if that’s my “right” or not. But I’m tired of having my fandom questioned because I care enough about this team to let them know when they crap their own pants.

Andy124

Agree with both of you. I don’t have a problem with what he’s saying, but I do think some fans and media will twist it and try to make it a negative. DJ already gets more flak than he deserves, this will just be another quote for those people to latch on to.

JofreyRice

If someone read those comments and took it as a grave insult, I think their agenda against Desean would probably transcend any comment he did or didn’t make on the issue.

bentheimmigrant

And I suspect we’ll see one or two before the day is out.

Might have to check in with fakeWIPcaller. Or maybe even a real one.

Tom W

These dopes don’t read comments or listen to interviews .. they hear what their drunk buddy tells them at the tailgate or what Cataldi tells them driving to work everyday. The sports media twists it and strokes the flames of fire (not this site obviously) and makes the fans think they should be booing unless they see perfection and second guess every play call. its a joke.

cliff henny

he also said, lot of young guys, who have heard the rep, but havent experienced what winning is like in philly. they just know last 2 yrs, it’s been rough.

Will

Now I won’t be surprised if DeSean gets sarcastic boos from now on…

djack10

and that, my friends, is why talent leaves philadelphia. they don’t need to stay here and deal with that kind of stupidity.

Will

STFU and play…………Eagles 42 Skins 24………..

https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

The term Negadelphians didn’t just make itself up…But I hope the true Eagle fans can keep supporting this team no matter what.

cliff henny

just get up 14-0 after 7 mins and fans’ll be tearing the Linc apart d-jax! play well, offense clicks, lay some hits on RG3, and those young guys will experience the best Philly has to offer

Will

Sweet catch for a TD on a very windy Day…G-O-E-A-G-L-E-S!

nicksaenz1

D-Jax, keep catching the 50yd TD bombs from Foles and people will be cheering. You’ll have your personal whipping boy, DeAngelo Hall, on you most of the game so I feel like you might even have 2 of those on Sunday. Get a W and it might even start feeling like some ’08 Linc!

Will

DJax’s personal whipping boy…LMAO…

jabostick

I think it’s less about providing a pat on the back to the team as it is making it harder for the opponent to play there. Fans can legitimately have an impact on the game if they go batshit crazy. Granted, it’s hard to do that if the team is stinking it up but there’s no reason the crowd shouldn’t start off loud and crazy. I’m not there but from what I read, there hasn’t been a ton of pre-/early game crowd energy

Tom W

Correct. That is what it felt like at the Vet and Old Spectrum and even some Temple games and Flyers game. Support your team, bitch the other team, cheer and get load and support on 3d down and in the redzone. its not hard to figure out … check out the eagles tape from the eagles dallas game when we stopped Emmitt twice on fourth down at the Vet … that team and fanbase hated Dallas and the team sucked that year … but instead of booing and leaving at halftime like everyone does these days … they supported the team and got loud the entire second half and booed the cowboys … that was a home court advantage. only take about 5ooo drunk aholes to give our fans a bad name … but Cataldi has done the most damage.

cliff henny

have no clue why anyone supports that station with him on there. it’s like new york sent the biggest most loud mouth uninformed jerkoff to sabotage philly sports radio.

Tom W

Thank you and god bless. He is ratings hack and strokes the flames to get simple minded people angry. I wish they would throw him out on his ass because he has embarrassed our fan base and coaches and players too long.

nicksaenz1

That’s very possible.

Brian

The “Cataldi Curse”.

djack10

he is unlistenable. and i don’t think that’s a word but it should be just for him.

JofreyRice

How often did you ever actually go to the vet, outside of watching highlights & NFL Films productions? I’m actually amazed you have the audacity to make this claim again, that the Vet was some kind of super-positive atmosphere of team spirit & family-friendly fun.

The Eagles didn’t suck that year, they went to the playoffs and dismantled Detroit. They had won 3 of their last 4 going into that game. The atmosphere you were referencing was the last 2 minutes of a tie game between the 8-5 Eagles, and The Cowboys who were 10-3 at that point, and eventually went on to win the Superbowl. Really not comparable at all.

Richard Colton

Tom and BBaaS (aka Roots aka Gweeg), two people who have never been to an Eagles game, arguing about the virtues of Fandom through the lens of DeSean Jackson. Amazing.

djack10

i thought he was talking fan intimidation factor. vet was definitely full of more crazies than the linc. i can’t think of a linc moment in terms of fan intensity that stands up to any of the big moments at the vet.

Adam

Exactly this.

DEBO 215

They boo because they know what you’re capable of and are disappointed when they don’t see it. Three minutes into home game is a bit much, but I can’t see that being a collective effort. Also, there’s a good amount of time that those boo’s aren’t directed at the players necessarily. Could be booing the play call or a number of other things.
I agree with what he said mostly, but when you’re paying $100+ a game to go see your team play and they display the kind of performance they did against Dallas/NY, then the fans are well within their rights to boo them.
And spare me the Philadelphia stereotype, because NE fans were booing Tom fuggin’ Brady this year when that offense struggled…We’re no different from anyone else.

anon

there is an alterantive which is not cheering. i think the linc is a rougher place for the eagles to play than elsewhere. i also think it’s a hangover from last year’s ugly. but the team is 5-5 about to head into the black — hopefully we can chill for a game.

Tom W

No hangover … they been nonsensically booing and bitching since Reid lost the Tampa game if not before … they are angry and fed up I get that …but they also think buying a ticket means they must “boo” to be considered a true eagles fan and thats sad and deplorable. True fans don’t enjoy booing … most of these nitwits enjoy it.

Brian

Seriously, Tom. Nobody feels they must boo. They’re frustrated, and they’re hoping that voicing their displeasure will somehow make the team focus. If the team is focused on doing the job at hand, they won’t hear Boo!

EaglePete

lets not have this devolve into only philly fans are aholes and stink because well, football fans in general arent the best, lets face it. Bad ones are everywhere. And please no more reminiscing about how great the Vet was. It wasnt. The teams are fine but that place was the worst stadium ever built, end of story. Maybe the Linc has its flaws but to kid yourself that the Vet was anything to admire is not accurate..

cliff henny

yeah, but it was our sh!thole! i woke up early watched it get demolished on tv, had little lump in my throat

EaglePete

indeed it was, but I celebrated when it was demolished….finally. I fondly recall that Bears receiver blowing out both knees on that sweet turf.

Will

You mean green concrete…

Tom W.

Huh … the vet was the best home court advantage in football … if you want a nice cushy seat to watch something go to the movies.

And a certain amount of boisterous typically drunk eagles fans are idiots for booing in the first quarter if they go three and out. Don’t they know its early in the freaking game and there is so much time left that its likely the team will come back .. why start booing like ungrateful shortsighted children … then you cheer the next possession … you come off like uneducated frontrunning perfectionists which you certainly aren’t … you aint perfect so don’t expect the team to be for 60 minutes on every play. jesus its suppose to be fun and enjoyable .. why go and boo like a miserable basturd in the first quarter … stay home if your life sucks that much to start booing a guy for missing a play in the first freaking quarter. Tired of this “invincible” bullshit that team is supposed to make us feel better about our lives because philly sucks so much blue collar down trodden town blah blah blah .. if you haven’t noticed our city is in the middle of a 15 yr renaissance in real estate, entrepreunership, restaurants, bars, etc… and most people who have season tickets make a pretty penny. And stop with the birds haven’t won a home game in a year … you miserable “fans” have been booing and second guessing this team for a decade when we got good under Reid and lost 3 straight nfc championship games … I don’t get it … why come to the game if you just gonna drink, bitch, and boo ….maybe your lives do suck that much. Djax is dead right just like Jimmy Rollins was and Barkley and Schmidt were. These “fans” in this town think they are equal to the team and because they buy a ticket or watch a game on tv it entitles them to be a “philly” fan and boo and bitch and cry and second guess.

The sports media in this town perpetuates it starting w Cataldi …they fuel negativity because negativity sells more ads and airtime … after an eagles loss eskin would always say the phones never stop ringing. So they perpetuate the negativity and anger and “booing at the draft” and booing Scott Rolen and booing JD Drew that the sheepish dopes follow suit and boo and bitch … after years of this these drunk dopes I have to sit next to in my section every week feel part of being a philly fan is they should be booing and bitching if the team doesn’t score on every play. What the hell is that? Try going to a flyers game or Temple game and watch how real fans act … go to Pittsbugh, or Green Bay or St. Louis ..shoot most phillies fans are respectful and supporting of their team … not front running a-holes who second guess the head coach w 30 years experience like they can call a better play.

mrparabolic

I think Chip Kelly is attempting to perform the radical new Boo Aversion Therapy technique on the Philadelphia Eagles fanbase. As soon as he hears a boo at home, he intentionally tanks the game. This way the fans will come to associate booing with losing football games and in turn will have a natural aversion to booing. It’s going to revolutionize the NFL.

Adam

interesting URL…

/birds247/2013/11/12/desean-im-blaming-fans/

Are you trying to spin this, Sheil?

jabostick

Classic Sheil linkbaiting. Sheil KaBAITia, amirite?

Andy124

brilliant.

Will

When the effort and heart is displayed the 12th man will cheer…Fly EAGLES Fly

Tom W

Then they turn around and boo the second a guy drops a ball … never fails … makes them all seem like front runners and dopes.

morgan c

I know it’s not a “philly” thing to say, but yeah, don’t boo your own team in the first half just cus things aren’t going well. Last year? Okay. If the team is 2-6? Okay. But we aren’t. We are 5-5, with a GREAT chance to be 6-5 if we win. Ya, the last year has sucked at home. But things are going well now, so give the guys the benefit of the doubt if you’re there Sunday, and get LOUD! 6-5 let’s go!

nicksaenz1

So is there a minor chance we don’t get to 6-5 if we win?

SvelteGodzilla

Bill Davis says division games count for more- who knows, we might be at 6.5-5

Tom W

Why is that not a “philly” thing … thats what pisses me off … when did this town start following Cataldi and Rendell and those dopes and turning into sheep and thinking they need to boo to be a philly fan. That couldn’t be farther from the truth. I really truly believe a fair amount of the eagles stadium fans (strong distinction from non-stadium fans) enjoy booing and get off on it and impressing their friends they are sitting with and outdoing each other.

EaglePete

its not because it happens everywhere. Sure you can compare it to the best fans in some places and make a point but that doesnt apply to all fans. Giants just booed a dog at halftime that dropped a frisbee. Then theres the 20 examples someone posted for you yesterday also

Tom W

You just implied it was a philly thing. To say we aren’t known for it nationally is to be blind what we hear every monday nite game from the national media … booing, philly, santa claus, snowballs, michael irvin, mcnabb/randal/schmidt etc …. do you hear or see the national media saying that chicago has hard booing fans .. or boston or baltimore No. and flyers, phils, sixers, temple fans cannot be compared to eagles fans in that category … just stop. completely different animal.

nicksaenz1

It’s also a stigma that the national media loves to perpetuate and sensationalize. The same people are very quick to move on from murders after baseball games in California because bashing Philly fans is what they love to do, for no apparent reason.

Will

Texans cheered when Matt Schaub got injured…just saying…

cliff henny

kc cheered cassel

EaglePete

and the examples keep on coming but feel free to keep on spittin in the wind

JofreyRice

The guy’s in a bubble. No getting through. Probably got atomic wedgied at the Linc during the Rendell administration, and will be angry at Eagles fans forever.

cliff henny

he has a point, there is some ‘sport boo’g’. the only in philly part is way off. fans are fans, eagles fans are just a little more intense than others outside NE corridor.

JofreyRice

the “only philly” part is his whole argument.

FMWarner

He may not be right that it’s ONLY Philly – but I believe 100% that the fans he’s talking about relish Philly’s rep (earned or unearned) and do their best to live down to it. That’s not helping anyone.

morgan c

You’re right, and that’s why I put “philly” in quotes. It’s stupid. But to be fair, it is just crappy that when I go to Lambeau, the fans there are so much more positive and supportive. And they were like that when they went 6-10 too. Just keep the sleezies from the shore quiet…
Haha.

ICDogg

You know, sometimes Desean says the right things in the wrong way. He’s trying to say, I think, that the fans can really help them at home, and is asking for their support. He’s inviting us in, so to speak, not blaming us for the team not winning.

Jaydakidd

I’m a Eagle fan and I know it’s hard to accept something when it goes wrong but I believe if we be positive minded people and be like we got it on the next play … Remember eagle fans out there OUR TEAM is playing great and I don’t want to lose to these dead skins … We gotta support no matter what we already seen the lows last year no matter if u support at the Linc or at the t.v ….. Fly Eagles Fly

Mike Sacto

He’s right when I am watching the game on TV its dead quite unless the Eagles screw up or are losing then the boo’s come out. It was 3-0 Giants 11:06 in the first qtr and you could hear a pin drop as well as Eli calling out audibles clear as day, fans need to get off their hands and cheer!

Eagles4Life

This is what I think about every home game I watch. Offenses have no issues communicating when they’re in LFF. Church mouse quiet.

Just because someone says they are not a racist, “hangs out”, or “jokes around” with people from other races does not necessarily reflect their internal perceptions of that race. That said, there are people whose implicitly racist tendencies/perceptions, however slight or strong, are consciously over-ridden by higher “internal” priorities such as winning, getting work done, religiosity, avoidance of confrontation, etc…

In any case, highly recommend checking it out.

John J. King

He is exactly right.

TheGhostofNormVanBrocklin

I get where he’s coming from but…Dear DeSean, if the team starts fast, plays hard, finishes strong, and leaves the stadium with the NFC East lead in hand…you’ll never here a single ‘boo’ on Sunday.

Mike B

This is just another example of writers trying to start a brush fire with loaded questions.

mtn_green

Come on guys in order to break the curse, every eagles fan must cheer the entire game.

We can do it!!!

FMWarner

I can’t agree enough. It’s such a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point. Fans feel like they should be living down to the rep because it makes them feel like a bunch of tough guys. I should always preface it with a reminder that it’s not the majority – but it’s sure not a tiny minority, and the loudmouths will always drive the narrative.

quarterback pessimist

Djax is right on. Be smart and get over yourself if that’s your style. Have some perspective; this team has sucked for the past couple years and now they are improving. Be a part of the solution. McNabb, Reid, and Banner are gone…ding dong, the witch is dead…give Chip’s team this season to get the old swagger back. You aren’t paying attention if you can’t see it coming….

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