Sunday, April 15, 2012

Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground in South Carolina

South Carolina's "Stand your ground" law, which is a provision in the "Protection of Persons and Property Act." This was defined by the SC Legislature in SECTION 16-11-440(C) and is considered an extension or clarification of the "Castle doctrine"--a concept discussed at length by my radio-show participants.

In my opinion, the Castle doctrine should be sufficient, so I am not sure why an additional law was necessary. The National Rifle Association (and how did you guess) was one of the main agitators for the PPPA, which makes me wonder if increasing gun-sales was one incentive for the law.

Daisy is one of those involved people trying to further sane ideas while surrounded by madness. Southern Beale is another one, she's in Tennessee. I have a personal appreciation and affection for these brave bloggers who faithfully carry the message of lefty, liberal ideals in Red States.

18 comments:

I don’t get someone who supports Castle Doctrine, but not Stand Your Ground. Why the big difference in how you can defend your life once you step out the door? Still, why do you say “faithfully carry the message” to someone who supports Castle Doctrine? She only half agrees with you.

Writing on-line is brave? And how is it local? I agree that it's good to do, but I suspect that the readers aren't concentrated in the target area. But I'm left handed and writing in Arkansas. Do I qualify?

Democommie, the Urban Dictionary is interesting, but hardly definitive.

"Democommie, the Urban Dictionary is interesting, but hardly definitive."

You are such a pompous ass. You don’t like the Urban Dictionary definition? It’s what, not definitive (how exactly do you mean that term, anyway?) in your fevered little brain?

Well, then, there’s this one:

"Social scientists refer to words like nigger, kike, spic, and wetback as ethnophaulisms. Such terms are the language of prejudice – verbal pictures of negative stereotypes. Howard J. Ehrlich, a social scientist, argued that ethnophaulisms are of three types: disparaging nicknames (chink, dago, nigger, and so forth); explicit group devaluations ("Jew him down," or "niggering the land"); and irrelevant ethnic names used as a mild disparagement ("jewbird" for cuckoos having prominent beaks or "Irish confetti" for bricks thrown in a fight).3 All racial and ethnic groups have been victimized by racial slurs; however, no American group has suffered as many racial epithets as have blacks: coon, tom, savage, picanniny, mammy, buck, sambo, jigaboo, and buckwheat are typical.4"

from here: (http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/caricature/)

This one:

"buck 1 (bk)n.1. a. The adult male of some animals, such as the deer, antelope, or rabbit.b. Antelope considered as a group: a herd of buck.2. a. A robust or high-spirited young man.b. A fop.3. Offensive A Native American or Black man.

From here (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Buck)

This one:

"Buck/Buck Nigger Blacks This word has been used since the 17th century to refer to a male Negro - no matter whether slave or not"

from here (http://www.zoklet.net/totse/en/ego/literary_genius/terms.html)

Or, and I particularly like this definition, from here (The Concise New Partridge Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English)*

which in addition to saying that the term was a derogatory term for black men also said that it was a word used often, in that context, by then PotUS Ronlad Reagan when he was speaking without a script.

Do you ever actually LOOK for anything to support your moronic claims?

* You'll actually have to look that one up, as the webpage doesn't allow text to be copied.

Democommie, did I say that the word was incorrectly defined? My only point is that the Urban Dictionary looks to be about the same level of authority as Wikipedia. But I see that you're playing Dog Gone's role by filling the comment section with information that I already know. I do acknowledge that I've never heard buck used to refer to a young black man, but obviously, that's not a word that I use for that purpose, nor do I intend to start, now that you've shared.

I've heard the term 'young buck' hundreds of times and never once was it used to refer to a black or injun, but some young fellers out sowing wild oats or learning a life lesson the hard way.orlin sellers

I've heard the term many times in reference to Native American warriors in older sources, but I've never run across the term used for a young black male, and how you feel about the word doesn't change what it means.

Actually it means the police have to have some evidence it wasn't self defense before they can arrest you. You remember that whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing don't you? But the anti-self defense crowd doesn't like that. They want to see people arrested and their lives ruined as punishment for defending themselves. Imagine that actually having to gather evidence that a crime was committed before arresting someone. Next we will want actual jury trials instead of social media trials and real evidence instead of twisted half-truths by lamestream media.

"I've heard the term 'young buck' hundreds of times and never once was it used to refer to a black or injun, but some young fellers out sowing wild oats or learning a life lesson the hard way.orlin sellers"

And you accuse me of living in the whitest state? I grew up in the midwest and I heard the term "buck" used as a description of young, black men from the time I was old enough to understand the speech of my family and neighbors.

Greg Camp's previous fatuous assertion.

"Democommie, the Urban Dictionary is interesting, but hardly definitive."

Followed by his current question begging comment.

"Democommie, did I say that the word was incorrectly defined? My only point is that the Urban Dictionary looks to be about the same level of authority as Wikipedia."

I mean (I don't give a flying fuck whether you agree with or not), it's just a simple goddamned fact that you either don't understand that saying incredibly stupid shit in PRINT makes it extremely likely that you will ridiculed for doing so or you think everyone else is in capable of reading your words and understanding what they say. In either case, you're wrong and you're ridiculous.

Another Campian assertion:

"But I see that you're playing Dog Gone's role by filling the comment section with information that I already know."

followed by this:

"I do acknowledge that I've never heard buck used to refer to a young black man, but obviously, that's not a word that I use for that purpose, nor do I intend to start, now that you've shared."

So, it's NOT something that you actually knew about, prior to reading it?

Why, then, make this statement?

""Democommie, the Urban Dictionary is interesting, but hardly definitive."

if you had NO FUCKING IDEA what the term meant? Was it because you felt that you had to say something without bothering to find out if you knew wtf you were talking about? Well, alrighty then, carry on being a dunce.

"Democommie, the Urban Dictionary is interesting, but hardly definitive."

Those are your words, not mine. I really can't fathom how you can ask such stupid questions and expect not to be laughed at.

You claim that I am filling dog gone's role (something I hasten to assure you I cannot and will not do--she wastes way too much of her own time supplying you and your gunzloonzpalz with information that you choose to disregard) telling you things that you already know and then say:

"I do acknowledge that I've never heard buck used to refer to a young black man".

Well, which is it, you already knew or you didn't--it can't be both can it?

"I've heard the term 'young buck' hundreds of times and never once was it used to refer to a black or injun, but some young fellers out sowing wild oats or learning a life lesson the hard way.orlin sellers"

injun? you're a "Poe", right? You're just a bored 14 yo who hasn't got enough fucking intelligence to not give away the game? I know this native american feller who's a PhD in American Studies. He's a big gent who would likely thump your ass if you used that word in reference to him--then again, he really tries to understand people who don't have a keen grasp of reality.

Scott Henrichs:

Your rant is astonishing in its breathtaking logical FAIL. It's got at least a pair of non sequitirs in it and several arguments from indignorance. Try reading it to someone else and see if they can keep a straight face.

Democommie, as far as I care, Poe refers to a great American writer. Clearly, you're not bright enough to understand that a person can discuss an idea without believing it. You're also incapable of understanding nuances in writing. The Urban Dictionary is interesting, since it discusses words that aren't yet in a standard dictionary, but it doesn't strike me as being run by professional linguists or lexicographers. That being said, I can ask if something is correctly defined without asserting postively that it is not. When you're smart enough to understand how that's possible, get back to me.

Can't come up with any facts so you resort to name calling. Hence the reason I usually don't bother responding to you.

Fact- SYG doesn't change the law defining what is or isn't self defense. All the law does is force law enforcement to do their job and actually come up with evidence is was a crime verses an act of self defense.Fact-NBC pieced together sound bites to make the 911 call sound racist.

"Can't come up with any facts so you resort to name calling. Hence the reason I usually don't bother responding to you."

Actually, your screed was fact free; baseless assertions is what you and your gunzloonzpalz specialize in. Here's another fact for you, moron; I hadn't called you a name in my reply to your absurd mischaracterization of the legal process.

Well, I have a radio show too, I don't just write a blog... and my show is broadcast on local radio in Fountain Inn, SC -- so I think that qualifies as "local"-- thank you very much. If I have to explain to you why its "brave" to host a liberal talk radio show in the most conservative county in the USA (according to Rick Santorum's campaign manager, who should know), then I really can't help you... I guess you never heard of Alan Berg? (and that was COLORADO, not South Carolina)

You are welcome to listen to my show, peeps, this is the Stand Your Ground show: http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=112747&cmd=tc