The Thrown Ups were basically about making a hell of a noise without given structure. That's why Beezer didn't want to have Mark and Steve in the band anymore because he thought they were too conventional He plays in a number of experimental improvisational bands now, with Snoose Junction and Cantenna being two of them. Both are really good, but more in the psychedelic direction, playing for hours and with musicians coming and going through the show.