Make that three speeches, not the two speeches we referenced in Part I, that shook the world. In this Part II we’ll discuss Trump’s rope-a-dope, now triple punch, speech strategy. We begin with a Trump hater extraordinaire who took this long to see what we saw last year when Trump announced.

But Donald J. Trump not only destroyed the old corrupt Republican Party. Trump is building a new home for seniors and the white working class. Donald J. Trump is building a massive new tower soon to be called the New Republican Party. That’s what the triple powerful speeches have been about. The stunning news for Trump haters and the ancien régime of the GOP is that Donald J. Trump is not only bringing in seniors and the white working class. Donald J. Trump is bringing in a whole lotta love from groups long abandoned by the GOP. Donald J. Trump has Make The GOP Great Again ambitions.

In it, conservative intellectuals say they disavow Donald Trump, but also see in his rise a reason to shift their party’s focus.

The new Republicans would no longer be the party of “business and the privileged,” but the protector of a disenfranchised working class.

This was unplanned. If it happens, it’ll be a change that takes place not because conservative leaders ever wanted it, but because voters demanded it.

Basically, large numbers of working-class voters, particularly white working-class voters, long ago abandoned the Democratic Party in favor of the Republicans. [snip]

All of this soul-searching is happening now because the maniac Trump has hijacked a portion of the Republican base and is driving it off an electoral cliff. (He will clutch his own hand all the way down in the inevitable Thelma & Louise crash ending.)

Until this year, Republican voters mostly bought it. But Trump was their way of telling their leaders they’re done waiting. They want their piece of the pie now, even if it means unleashing the Trumpinator to get it.

People have been conscious of the defection of working-class voters to the Republican Party for years, but this has always been dismissed as the consequence of skillfull propaganda. It’s the What’s the Matter With Kansas? creation story, i.e., that the white working class has been hoodwinked into going against its own economic interests thanks to cynical/backward appeals to race, religion and culture.

But that isn’t the whole story, as some leading Democrats are beginning to realize. Joe Biden went on Morning Joe a few weeks ago and admitted that “the Democratic Party over all hasn’t spoken enough to [working-class voters],” the “ordinary people busting their necks.” [snip]

The problem with all of this is that the Democrats went so far in the direction of advocacy for the global religion that they made something as idiotic as the rise of unabashed nativist Donald Trump possible.

Worse, Trump’s rise will give the Globalist Faith Militant an automatic argument for more time. They will decry any criticism of free trade or globalization as racist Trumpism, and Trump is such a galactic jackass that this will work, his vast inventory of offensive bleatings discrediting even the legitimate economic concerns of his voters.

But expecting American politicians to advocate first and foremost for their own constituents isn’t isolationism. It’s just rational self-interest, which neoliberals only seem to disbelieve in when it pertains to labor. Moreover we didn’t call movements to disinvest from South Africa or the Soviet Union “nativism.” We called that idealism.

Matt Bai is so stupid, so full of hate, he can’t see past his anti-Trump jingoism. If Matt Bai had an ounce of intellectual honesty he would praise Trump for telling the truth and fighting for the working class. But the left is so corrupt we cannot expect anything like honesty from their precincts.

Consider, both major political parties for their own selfish reasons, seek to impose illegal immigration amnesty, common core, disaster trade policies such as TPP. Both parties are in cahoots on these issues. Donald J. Trump is against illegal immigration amnesty, common core, disaster trade policies.

The GOP establishment wants to sell the notion that the problem with Donald J. Trump is one of “tone” and bombastic “personality”. But the GOP establishment’s problem with Donald J. Trump is one of policy. That’s why there can be no peace. One must die for the other to live.

Donald J. Trump is against what both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party want to impose on this nation. Recall that many of the abominations of the Obama gangster government were birthed by Republicans. TARP, Common Core, bailouts, trade deals – were authored by George W. Bush and then co-authored by Barack Obama. ObamaCare? It used to be called RomneyCare.

Donald J. Trump is against what both the Democratic Party of Barack Obama and the Republican Party of George W. Bush have imposed on American citizens. The American people are against what the Democratic Party of Barack Obama and the Republican Party of George W. Bush have wrought. That’s why there is a New Republican Party rising.

Donald J. Trump, aided and abetted by the voters, will bring about a realignment – a New Republican Party.

The last three Donald J. Trump speeches are the building blocks of the New Republican Party. The first speech was a tough discussion on terrorism. The second speech is the one we focused on in Part I. This second speech was a direct appeal to black voters (and a clever way to appeal to white suburban voters who don’t want to be perceived as “racist”) and an attack on lobbyists and the “rigged system”. At the end of the second speech Trump summed it all up – an appeal to blacks and the poor and an attack on the rigged system that benefits the powerful political establishment:

Let’s talk about what this means for the inner cities of America. It’s time to break through the television noise, the entrenched interests. I understand that a lot of powerful people in our political system – a lot of people who’ve created our problems – will lose a lot of their contracts, and their special gigs, if African-American voters, and all minority voters, support my campaign.

It’s time to stop making the special interests rich. It’s time to make the American people rich.

I am going to Make America Wealthy Again.

The Democratic Party has run nearly every inner city in this country for 50 years, and run them into financial ruin.

They’ve ruined the schools.

They’ve driven out the jobs.

They’ve tolerated a level of crime no American should consider acceptable.

Violent crime has risen 17% in America’s 50 largest cities last year. Killings of police officers this year is up nearly 50 percent. Homicides are up more than 60% in Baltimore. They are up more than 50% in Washington, D.C.

This is the future offered by Hillary Clinton. More poverty, more crime, and more of the same. The future she offers is the most pessimistic thing I can possibly imagine.

It is time for a different future.

Here is what I am proposing.

First, on immigration. No community in this country has been hurt worse by Hillary Clinton’s immigration policies than the African-American community. Now she is proposing to print instant work permits for millions of illegal immigrants, taking jobs directly from low-income Americans. [snip]

On trade, I am going to renegotiate NAFTA, stand up to China, withdraw from the TPP, and protect every last American job.

On taxes, I am going to give a massive tax cut to every worker and small business in this country, bring thousands of new companies and millions of new jobs onto our shores – and make it very difficult for our businesses to leave.

I am going to reform our regulations so jobs stay in America, and new businesses come to America to hire workers right here in Milwaukee. Every policy my opponent has sends jobs overseas. I am going to bring trillions in new wealth back to the United States.

On education, it is time to have school choice, merit pay for teachers, and to end the tenure policies that hurt good teachers and reward bad teachers. We are going to put students and parents first.

Hillary Clinton would rather deny opportunities to millions of young African-American children, just so she can curry favor with the education bureaucracy.

I am going to allow charter schools to thrive, and help young kids get on the American ladder of success: a good education, and a good-paying job.

On crime, I am going to support more police in our communities, appoint the best prosecutors and judges in the country, pursue strong enforcement of federal laws, and I am going to break up the gangs, the cartels and criminal syndicates terrorizing our neighborhoods. To every lawbreaker hurting innocent people in this country, I say: your free reign will soon come crashing to an end.

On healthcare, we are going to get rid of Obamacare – which has caused soaring double-digit premium increases – and give choice to patients and consumers. Aetna, just today, announced they are dropping out – as are many of the major insurance companies.

On government corruption, I am going to restore honor to our government. We’ve seen the corruption of Hillary Clinton, the mass email deletions, the pay-for-play at the State Department, the profiteering, the favors given to foreign corporations and governments at your expense. We’ve seen a former Secretary of State lie to Congress about her illegal email scheme, risk innocent American lives, and bring dishonor onto our government.

In my Administration, I am going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. No one will be above the law.

I am going to forbid senior officials from trading favors for cash by preventing them from collecting lavish speaking fees through their spouses when they serve.

I am going to ask my senior officials to sign an agreement not to accept speaking fees from corporations with a registered lobbyist for five years after leaving office, or from any entity tied to a foreign government. This is all just the beginning.

We are going to make this a government of the people once again. This is our chance to take back power from all the people who’ve taken it from you. The reason you see the establishment media lining up behind my opponent is because they are scared that you, with your vote, can take away their power and return it to your family and community.

These are tough times. But I know we can make American Greater Than Ever Before.

To do this, we are going to need a fighter in the White House.

I will be your fighter. [snip]

The only individuals she’s ever delivered for is her donors – not the people.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. My opponent asks her supporters to repeat a three-word pledge. Her pledge reads: “I’m With Her”

I choose to recite a different pledge. My pledge reads: “I’m With You – the American people.”

I will fight to ensure that every American is treated equally, protected equally, and honored equally. We will reject bigotry and hatred and oppression in all of its forms, and seek a new future of security, prosperity and opportunity – a future built on our common culture and values as one American people.

I am asking for your vote so I can be your champion in the White House. We will once again be a country of law and order, and a country of great success.

To every parent who dreams for their children, and to every child who dreams for their future, I say these words to you tonight: I’m with you, I will fight for you, and I will win for you.

On Tuesday, in Wisconsin, I talked about how we are going to restore law and order to this country. [snip]

I speak the truth for all of you, and for everyone in this country who doesn’t have a voice.

I speak the truth on behalf of the factory worker who lost his or her job.

I speak the truth on behalf of the Veteran who has been denied the medical care they need – and so many are not making it. They are dying.

I speak the truth on behalf of the family living near the border that deserves to be safe in their own country but is instead living with no security at all.

Our campaign is about representing the great majority of Americans – Republicans, Democrats, Independents, Conservatives and Liberals – who read the newspaper, or turn on the TV, and don’t hear anyone speaking for them. All they hear are insiders fighting for insiders.

These are the forgotten men and women in our society, and they are angry at so much on so many levels. The poverty, the unemployment, the failing schools, the jobs moving to other countries.

I am fighting for these forgotten Americans.

Trump also addressed the world he comes from which helps to explain the departure of Paul Manafort and Corey Lewandowski as well as the new team Trump has assembled. A builder like Trump understands that you hire the crane operator only for as long as she is needed, once the job is done, the project moves forward. Manafort’s job was to appease the Republican establishment during the Republican convention and to make sure Trump secured the delegates for the convention. Manafort did his job. Now a new team was needed.

In the world of Trump you do your job. The mission comes first. The excavator arrives to dig the earth so the foundation can be laid and once that job is done the excavators leave. The iron workers arrive to build the skeletal frame then the iron workers leave. The bricklayers arrive to their job followed by the contractors who border rooms with their plasterboard, followed by the carpenters, painters, floor installers, electricians, and eventually the tenants.

Trump comes from a world of easy to see achievements:

In the world I come from, if something is broken, you fix it.

If something isn’t working, you replace it.

If a product doesn’t deliver, you make a change.

I have no patience for injustice, no tolerance for government incompetence, no sympathy for leaders who fail their citizens.

That’s why I am running: to end the decades of bitter failure and to offer the American people a new future of honesty, justice and opportunity. A future where America, and its people, always – and I mean always – come first.

Aren’t you tired of a system that gets rich at your expense?

Aren’t you tired of the same old lies and the same old broken promises? And Hillary Clinton has proven to be one of the greatest liars of all time.

Aren’t you tired of arrogant leaders who look down on you, instead of serving and protecting you?

That is all about to change – and it’s about to change soon. We are going to put the American people first again. [snip]

Instead, every story is told from the perspective of the insiders. It’s the narrative of the people who rigged the system, never the voice of the people it’s been rigged against.

So many people suffering in silence. No cameras, no coverage, no outrage from a media class that seems to get outraged over just about everything else.

So again, it’s not about me. It’s never been about me. It’s about all the people in this country who don’t have a voice.

I am running to be their voice.

I am running to be the voice for every forgotten part of this country that has been waiting and hoping for a better future.

I am glad that I make the powerful a little uncomfortable now and again – INCLUDING SOME POWERFUL PEOPLE IN MY OWN PARTY. Because it means I am fighting for real change.

There’s a reason the hedge fund managers, the financial lobbyists, the Wall Street investors, are throwing their money at Hillary Clinton. Because they know she will make sure the system stays rigged in their favor.

It’s the powerful protecting the powerful.

The insiders fighting for the insiders.

I am fighting for you.

Them’s fighting words. Trump is birthing a New Republican Party with appeals to all the disaffected.

One last point, the rope-a-dope. While Hillary has disappeared more or less from the campaign trail, on most days Donald Trump is active every day. Trump and Hillary both knew that the stupid Olympic games (can’t we rid ourselves of this silliness or relegate the games to every ten years?) would suck up the news cycle. Hillary effectively disappeared during this period. Trump’s strategy has been to soak up attention with campaign appearances in state after state knowing he could break on local television through the sports fog.

But Donald J. Trump’s most audacious rope-a-dope strategy, the most nerve racking strategy, has been to rely on free attention from Big Media and not spend cash this summer season. Hillary2016 by contrast has spent money hand over fist which has led to higher poll ratings. The results are classic Muhammad Ali rope-a-dope:

Trump’s campaign spending at half the rate of Clinton’s

Donald Trump doubled his campaign expenses last month yet was still spending at a far slower clip than Hillary Clinton.

New finance documents show the Republican presidential nominee’s campaign spent about $18.5 million in July. By comparison, the Democratic presidential nominee spent about $38 million.

Boxer Muhammad Ali had a boxing strategy. Knowing his opponent’s strength and fully aware of that power, Ali went to the ropes surrounding the boxing ring. There, Ali took blow after blow, brutal punch after brutal punch. Ali only jabbing back sufficiently to convince the referee that he was still able to fight so the ref would not end the fight. Ali, in his “protective stance” against the ropes encouraged the beating delivered by his opponent, who now sells hamburger grills. Ali, took to the ropes to rope himself a dope. “The plan is to cause the opponent to punch himself out and make mistakes which the boxer can then exploit in a counter-attack.” Compare Ali, to Trump:

At the time some observers thought that Ali was being horribly beaten and worried that they might see him get killed in the ring. [snip] However, far from being brutalized, Ali was relatively protected from Foreman’s blows. Norman Mailer described the advantage of Ali’s rope-a-dope this way: “Standing on one’s feet, it is painful to absorb a heavy body punch even when blocked with one’s arm. The torso, the legs and the spine take the shock. Leaning on the ropes, however, Ali can pass it along; the rope will receive the strain.”[2] Ali’s preparation for the fight, which involved toughening himself up by allowing his sparring partners to pummel him, contributed to observers’ sense that Ali was outmatched. But when Foreman became tired from the beating he was delivering, Ali took advantage and won the match.

The dumb observers were wrong. Like Ali, Donald J. Trump has been considered out for the count. But like Ali, Trump comes out punching at a time of his choosing, in accord with his strategy. The time to punch forward starts this week, just before Labor Day as attention to political campaigns increases, as the Olympic tomfoolery ends.

The frenzy to bury Trump is not limited to the Clinton campaign and the Obama White House. They are working hand-in-hand with what was considered the cream of the nation’s news organizations.

The shameful display of naked partisanship by the elite media is unlike anything seen in modern America.

The largest broadcast networks — CBS, NBC and ABC — and major newspapers like The New York Times and Washington Post have jettisoned all pretense of fair play. Their fierce determination to keep Trump out of the Oval Office has no precedent.

Indeed, no foreign enemy, no terror group, no native criminal gang, suffers the daily beating that Trump does. The mad mullahs of Iran, who call America the Great Satan and vow to wipe Israel off the map, are treated gently by comparison. [snip]

I started at the Times while the Vietnam War and civil-rights movement raged, and was full of certainty about right and wrong.

My editors were, too, though in a different way. Our boss of bosses, the legendary Abe Rosenthal, knew his reporters leaned left, so he leaned right to “keep the paper straight.”

That meant the Times, except for the opinion pages, was scrubbed free of reporters’ political views, an edict that was enforced by giving the opinion and news operations separate editors. The church-and-state structure was one reason the Times was considered the flagship of journalism.

Those days are gone. The Times now is so out of the closet as a Clinton shill that it is giving itself permission to violate any semblance of evenhandedness in its news pages as well as its opinion pages.

A recent article by its media reporter, Jim Rutenberg, whom I know and like, began this way: “If you’re a working journalist and you believe that Donald J. Trump is a demagogue playing to the nation’s worst racist and nationalistic tendencies, that he cozies up to anti-American dictators and that he would be dangerous with control of the United States nuclear codes, how the heck are you supposed to cover him?”

Whoa, Nellie. The clear assumption is that many reporters see Trump that way, and it is note­worthy that no similar question is raised about Clinton, whose scandals are deserving only of “scrutiny.” Rutenberg approvingly cites a leftist journalist who calls one candidate “normal” and the other ­“abnormal.” [snip]

It’s pure bias, which the Times fancies itself an expert in detecting in others, but is blissfully tolerant of its own. And with the top political editor quoted in the story as ­approving the one-sided coverage as necessary and deserving, the prejudice is now official policy.

It’s a historic mistake and a complete break with the paper’s own traditions. Instead of dropping its standards, the Times should bend over backwards to enforce them, even while acknowledging that Trump is a rare breed. That’s the whole point of standards — they are designed to guide decisions not just in easy cases, but in all cases, to preserve trust.

The Times, of course, is not alone in becoming unhinged over Trump, but that’s also the point. It used to be unique because of its adherence to fairness.

Now its only standard is a double standard, one that it proudly ­confesses. Shame would be more appropriate.

Her remaining supporters lack enthusiasm and her big donors are beginning to wonder if they are going to ever see positive results from all that money they have already poured into her campaign, just like what happened with Jeb Bush.

Admin: allow me to digress for one minute and then I will finish reading your brilliant post and will have more to say about it. For me, the show stopper was this bottom feeder Matt Bai. Matt wrote an article villainizing a friend of mine who was a health care provider in the New York area. In that industry and that venue everybody does business with everybody and if no lines are crossed it should be no harm no foul. My friend was one of the nicest people you will ever met, he married late in life and his family was everything. The US Attorney were able to flip a Genovese capo, and they put him on the witness stand. People like that will name everyone to get themselves off the hook and this is why you the law requires corroboration for the testimony of a co conspirator. The mobster named my friend in open court and referred to him as that Jew Pig. It was all a lie. There was no corroboration. But it was part of the record. Matthew Bai got a copy of that transcript and used it to write an article about the mobster but in it, he quoted the lie about my friend, and that was all it took to ruin my friend’s business. Trustees for health and welfare funds steer clear of any controversy, and he was never chose again as a provider. Matt Bai pretends to be an investigative journalist and he has got some people convinced. But the truth is he is a low life, and a discredit to journalism
Whatever he says now about Trump is not original material.

Her remaining supporters lack enthusiasm and her big donors are beginning to wonder if they are going to ever see positive results from all that money they have already poured into her campaign, just like what happened with Jeb Bush.
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An interesting comparison, which I never thought of.

I’m just speculating here, but perhaps one of the reasons why she was in Martha’s Vineyard flying to Nantucket for Rothchild’s fundraiser instead of going to Louisiana was to also convince her wavering donors to continue to support her even though she has a lot of baggage that Trump is reminding people of so effectively in his speeches last week.

“That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the CONSENT OF THE GOVERENED, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”—Declaration of Independence, paragraph 2.

Our poll numbers are holding steady, which is good. We’re growing our field organization, building out neighborhood teams in communities all over the country — which is even better,” Mook wrote.

“But that’s happening at a time when our fundraising levels are, frankly, dipping.”

Mook appears to attribute lower fundraising numbers with overconfidence. “It seems that with our convention in the rearview mirror and pundits constantly saying that ‘momentum’ is on our side, a lot of people believe that we have this locked up and that donations don’t matter anymore.”

But, Mook warns, Donald Trump can still win the election.
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Question: what part of the word “change” does Robbie Mook not understand?

Its fine that he is growing the campaign organization, paying 100 memo writers and inhaling the choom provided by big media. Heady stuff alright. I can see why he is over confident. But there is some danger in this kind of complacency and reliance on technology, i.e.

” This new ship here is fitted according to the reported increase of knowledge
among mankind. Namely, she is cumbered end to end, with bells and trumpets
and clock and wires, … she can call voices out of the air of the waters to
con the ship while her crew sleep.

But sleep Thou lightly. It has not yet been told to me that the Sea has ceased to be the Sea.

Question: Does he really believe the reason people are not opening their wallets for Hillary is because they think that Hillary has locked up the election? If he does, then we have a room waiting for him in the psychiatric ward at Bellevue Hospital.

yup, I pretty much stopped watching when the US decided to go full professional. As if we’re supposed to get all excited and proud when our men’s professional basketball team beats up little Croatia. give me a break.

A glorious post. I’m getting pretty good at defending DJT thanks to you all.

I’m spending the morning opening piles of mail from campaigners, and a delightful missive from Reince and RNC. It reeks of Donald and of organization, cooperation.

Some time back I began giving small money to the RNC but more recently have stood firm against it which led to them informing me that my account was terribly in arrears and they’d not be able to sustain me. lol

Enter Donald and his recent MAGA committee. I sent in a bunch, and someone must be connecting the dots for just now, this from RNC only, Reince only:

“It is my great honor to inform you that you have been upgraded to Executive Membership in the Republican National Committee. Please let us know the gold card got to you safely.” lolol

Further down, “Your generous contribution today will help our Party’s [GOTV] so please continue your tremendous support of our efforts to elect Donald Trump, a Republican Congress, and more GOP candidates….”

Two things really please me:
1. That Reince does not waver about Donald
2. That RNC/Trump? went to some effort to identify me as someone they could flip to the RNC membership as well.

Hillary Clinton’s top campaign aide, and the woman who might be the future White House chief of staff to the first female US president, for a decade edited a radical Muslim publication that opposed women’s rights and blamed the US for 9/11. [snip]

At the time, Abedin was assistant editor of the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs working under her mother, who remains editor-in-chief. She was also working in the White House as an intern for then-first lady Clinton.

Headlined “Women’s Rights Are Islamic Rights,” a 1996 article argues that single moms, working moms and gay couples with children should not be recognized as families. It also states that more revealing dress ushered in by women’s liberation “directly translates into unwanted results of sexual promiscuity and irresponsibility and indirectly promote violence against women.” In other words, sexually liberated women are just asking to be raped.

“A conjugal family established through a marriage contract between a man and a woman, and extended through procreation is the only definition of family a Muslim can accept,” the author, a Saudi official with the Muslim World League, asserted, while warning of “the dangers of alternative lifestyles.” (Abedin’s journal was founded and funded by the former head of the Muslim World League.)

“Pushing [mothers] out into the open labor market is a clear demonstration of a lack of respect of womanhood and motherhood,” it added.

In a separate January 1996 article, Abedin’s mother — who was the Muslim World League’s delegate to the UN conference — wrote that Clinton and other speakers were advancing a “very aggressive and radically feminist” agenda that was un-Islamic and wrong because it focused on empowering women.

“‘Empowerment’ of women does more harm than benefit the cause of women or their relations with men,” Saleha Mahmood Abedin maintained, while forcefully arguing in favor of Islamic laws that have been roundly criticized for oppressing women.

“By placing women in the ‘care and protection’ of men and by making women responsible for those under her charge,” she argued, “Islamic values generate a sense of compassion in human and family relations.”

“Among all systems of belief, Islam goes the farthest in restoring equality across gender,” she claimed. “Acknowledging the very central role women play in procreation, child-raising and homemaking, Islam places the economic responsibility of supporting the family primarily on the male members.”

She seemed to rationalize domestic abuse as a result of “the stress and frustrations that men encounter in their daily lives.” While denouncing such violence, she didn’t think it did much good to punish men for it.

She added in her 31-page treatise: “More men are victims of domestic violence than women . . . If we see the world through ‘men’s eyes’ we will find them suffering from many hardships and injustices.”

She opposed the UN conference widening the scope of the definition of the family to include “gay and lesbian ‘families.’ ”

Huma Abedin does not apologize for her mother’s views. “My mother was traveling around the world to these international women’s conferences talking about women’s empowerment, and it was normal,” she said in a recent profile in Vogue.

Huma continued to work for her mother’s journal through 2008. She is listed as “assistant editor” on the masthead of the 2002 issue in which her mother suggested the US was doomed to be attacked on 9/11 because of “sanctions” it leveled against Iraq and other “injustices” allegedly heaped on the Muslim world. Here is an excerpt:

“The spiral of violence having continued unabated worldwide, and widely seen to be allowed to continue, was building up intense anger and hostility within the pressure cooker that was kept on a vigorous flame while the lid was weighted down with various kinds of injustices and sanctions . . . It was a time bomb that had to explode and explode it did on September 11, changing in its wake the life and times of the very community and the people it aimed to serve.”

Huma Abedin is Clinton’s longest-serving and, by all accounts, most loyal aide. The devout, Saudi-raised Muslim started working for her in the White House, then followed her to the Senate and later the State Department. She’s now helping run Clinton’s presidential campaign as vice chair and may end up back in the White House.

The contradictions are hard to reconcile. The campaign is not talking, despite repeated requests for interviews.

Until now, these articles which Abedin helped edit and publish have remained under wraps. Perhaps Clinton was unaware she and her mother took such opposing views.

But that’s hard to believe. Her closest adviser served as an editor for that same Saudi propaganda organ for a dozen years. The same one that in 1999 published a book, edited by her mother, that justifies the barbaric practice of female genital mutilation under Islamic law, while claiming “man-made laws have in fact enslaved women.”

And in 2010, Huma Abedin arranged for then-Secretary of State Clinton to speak alongside Abedin’s hijab-wearing mother at an all-girls college in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. According to a transcript of the speech, Clinton said Americans have to do a better job of getting past “the stereotypes and the mischaracterizations” of the oppressed Saudi woman. She also assured the audience of burqa-clad girls that not all American girls go “around in a bikini bathing suit.”

At no point in her long visit there, which included a question-and-answer session, did this so-called champion of women’s rights protest the human rights violations Saudi women suffer under the Shariah laws that Abedin’s mother actively promotes. Nothing about the laws barring women from driving or traveling anywhere without male “guardians.”

If fighting for women’s rights is one of Clinton’s greatest achievements, why has she retained as her closest adviser a woman who gave voice to harsh Islamist critiques of her Beijing platform?

I think the blog has a poltergeist. Yesterday (last thread) I posted Clinton Cash the youtube movie, and it’s now a Judge Jeanine video, and I also posted a 2014 movie about Hillary yesterday morning (foxy posted it later in the afternoon and hers is okay), and mine is now some opera singer or something – that might be something that wbboei posted – but it’s in my comment now where the Hillary movie was.

O’Reilly is on, he has Trump on. O’Reilly’s awful. He says, you’ve already lost two people in 6 months (I assume he’s talking about Lewandowski and Manafort). Trump says, “but people in my corp are there for years” – I wish he had said, each had a job, did it well, and now we need Stage III people (or something like that)…. He was also trying to make him say exactly how he would decrease the crime in inner cities. O’Reilly is the ultimate bloviator.

I’m reading a lot lately that suggests that if Trump wins, there is all kinds of damaging information about Hillary and Bill (and that some will be coming out of course before the election). Assange has some, apparently the RNC has a lot. I think if all this bad stuff about Hillary is true (and it sure seems that it is), that she should be held accountable. But it is bugging me that I think that all of Obama’s issues won’t be pursued. (ok, Lu, there you go 🙂 )

But then since Trump is not a politician and is not playing by the rules of the establishment, he may just go ahead and do the unthinkable of prosecuting a former POTUS for crimes committed during his two terms.

I think the blog has a poltergeist. Yesterday (last thread) I posted Clinton Cash the youtube movie, and it’s now a Judge Jeanine video, and I also posted a 2014 movie about Hillary yesterday morning (foxy posted it later in the afternoon and hers is okay), and mine is now some opera singer or something – that might be something that wbboei posted – but it’s in my comment now where the Hillary movie was.

Weird!

lorac
August 22, 2016 at 10:47 pm
ok so the poltergeist is in my computer maybe – now the videos are right again!

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Lorac–

Well . . . for 12 minutes I got to be the poltergeist for posting Broadway stuff. When you get to be my age, that is what passes for a late night entertainment. But it is 3 minutes short of the proverbial 15 minutes of fame Andy Warhol promised all of us. Perhaps Judge Janine will make up the difference. To hear her lambaste that glorious, fantastic, heroic, historic, Harvard trained, notice anything different between me and all my predecessor (yes, I do, you are a traitor), intelligent man in an intelligent house in an intelligent city, law professor extraordinaire and big media beloved we must make him successful even if he destroys the world first black president is . . . how shall I put it, music to my ears. And for low brows like me who have a mind for detail, she has better legs than Judge Ginsberg (or John Roberts). Or Axelrod/

I’m reading a lot lately that suggests that if Trump wins, there is all kinds of damaging information about Hillary and Bill (and that some will be coming out of course before the election). Assange has some, apparently the RNC has a lot. I think if all this bad stuff about Hillary is true (and it sure seems that it is), that she should be held accountable. But it is bugging me that I think that all of Obama’s issues won’t be pursued.
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I believe it needs to be done. Definitely with Obama. I suspect we’ll find the son of a bitch wasn’t born in Hawaii and the entire administration was a huge fraud. Everything he signed was void ab initio. There must a restoration of accountability.

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today released 725 pages of new State Department documents, including previously unreleased email exchanges in which former Hillary Clinton’s top aide Huma Abedin provided influential Clinton Foundation donors special, expedited access to the secretary of state. In many instances, the preferential treatment provided to donors was at the specific request of Clinton Foundation executive Douglas Band.

The new documents included 20 Hillary Clinton email exchanges not previously turned over to the State Department, bringing the known total to date to 191 of new Clinton emails (not part of the 55,000 pages of emails that Clinton turned over to the State Department). These records further appear to contradict statements by Clinton that, “as far as she knew,” all of her government emails were turned over to the State Department.

The Abedin emails reveal that the longtime Clinton aide apparently served as a conduit between Clinton Foundation donors and Hillary Clinton while Clinton served as secretary of state. In more than a dozen email exchanges, Abedin provided expedited, direct access to Clinton for donors who had contributed from $25,000 to $10 million to the Clinton Foundation. In many instances, Clinton Foundation top executive Doug Band, who worked with the Foundation throughout Hillary Clinton’s tenure at State, coordinated closely with Abedin. In Abedin’s June deposition to Judicial Watch, she conceded that part of her job at the State Department was taking care of “Clinton family matters.”

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Judicial Watch posts ‘real evidence” documenting the co-mingling of Hillary’s position at State with her CGI Foundation facilitated by her intermediary, Huma Abedin

There is a grocery store right next door to the empire state building they are building for Bezos and his army of techies who are determined to change the universe one key stroke at a time. Half of them do not speak English, but they all look alike to me, and if you try to engage them in a conversation it is like looking into the eyes of a goat–or listening to that mellenial idiot Doctor Travis Reider who tells people not to have children but fails to tell us who will pay for the medicare of his generation . . . oh that is where illegal immigration comes in, but the illegals are smarter than Dr. T, because the deal only in cash, and leave no footprint. Many of these millenials here anyway are rabid leftists, and the only reason I am telling you all this is because forcing them to hear Donald read the poem of the broken snake is worse than chalk dragged down the black board, and it engenders one of their typical hair on fire responses, which is what the mute button is for.

I believe it needs to be done. Definitely with Obama. I suspect we’ll find the son of a bitch wasn’t born in Hawaii and the entire administration was a huge fraud. Everything he signed was void ab initio. There must a restoration of accountability.
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My friend gave the real story to Brian Ross the washed up investigative reporter with ABC at my foolish suggestion, and he refused to print it. He wanted proof, she had it, but he refused to accept it. At the time, I failed to realize he was in the tank for Obama, and the only investigative reporting that jamoke does is trying to blame the attack on Gabby Giffords on a tea party leader who happened to have the same last name as the real assailant.

What my friend told him, based on credible evidence, was that O was born in a home for unwed mothers on Oak Street in Vancouver. The agreement was that she would give the little monster up for adoption, but changed her mind. She left Vancouver, and took him down to Seattle, and showed him to her high school friend on Mercer Island which had a little red enclave in those days, whereas today it is just another wealthy enclave with nothing going on. Then, she took the baby to Hawaii, and her mother who was a bank manager (unlike her deadbeat father) and arranged the phony birth certificate based on oral testimony and a phony hospital record. A major law firm in this city was an accessory to this, forty years later.

gonzotx
August 23, 2016 at 1:47 pm
HTA.
Of course he is, but he needs to be careful…mmany of his supporters want full deportation.
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It is always a temptation for a rich and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say: —
“Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
We will therefore pay you cash and let you stay.”

And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we’ve proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You will more not less Danes.

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray;
So when you are requested to give them what they want or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say: —

“We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that pays it is lost!”

Go to the very bottom to watch YouTube video…if you are interested, there are several more.

THINK A BALLOT CAN’T BE FIXED – WATCH. THIS IS HOW THEY DO IT FOLKS!!

Anyone who votes should watch this. If you don’t vote or care, oh well. Have long wished to go back to paper ballots. When millions of ballots go through a machine no one would suspect a thing, especially the unknowing people that insert the ballots…

Stealing our country, knowledge is power. Check this out for yourself and send to everyone you know in America. God bless,

SEE HOW SHE AND HER COMRADES ARE GEARING UP TO STEAL THE ELECTION.

Very interesting Re; tech manipulation with voting machines. This is why we need to bring back the paper ballot.

The new Secretary of State of Texas has sent written instruction to all voting precincts that they:

*SHOULD NOT PRINT OUT THE PAPER TALLY OF THE VOTES TO SEND WITH THE BALLOTS.

*HE ALSO SAYS FOR THEM NOT TO KEEP THE MACHINE IMAGE OF THE BALLOTS WHICH IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO USE IN CASE OF A RECOUNT.

*BOTH OF THESE BACKUPS ARE REQUIRED BY STATE CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, BUT HE HAS MANDATED THAT THOSE SAFEGUARDS BE DROPPED FOR ALL ELECTIONS IN THE STATE.

The Secretary of State is an appointed position, not elected. Contact your State Senator or Representative to fight this breaking of Texas Law by a public official.

Hacking the election will be much easier without worrying about backup systems which might expose the hack. A candidate from Travis County has filed suit against the State because this Sec of State mandate kept her from having a recount in her City Council race. She is traveling all over the state speaking to Tea Party groups to educate them about how easily an election can be hacked and how the mandate of the Secretary of State’s mandate to not have paper and computer image backups, allows the hack to go undiscovered.

Thanks All-

If they can do this in Texas, they can game every state using the same methodology. If I remember correctly, in 2009, George Soros made a concerted effort ensuring each and every state, especially battleground states, have a Secretary of State *personally, approved BY HIM* !!!

I’m sure many of you went through the trials and tribulations and great investigative work done by Bev Harris in 2007-08. She was trying to accrue evidence as to the methods required/used for fraudulent vote counting systems.

Where electronics are involved, human involvement, as in a dedicated task force commissioned to make thing happen hoping for a predictable outcome in their employers favor had unfavorable repercussions such as endless recounts, court trials etc. e.i. Bush V Gore.. SO-

Electronic voting was to be the vanguard of the 21st century. Yippee…NOT SO FAST..

Could electronic voting be compromised, switching votes between candidates? Oh! the horror! Where have you been living my Dears, under a rock? Just kidding..

currently, the Diebold vote counting system was( purchased after Bush’s election and is owned by George Soros )

Too little too late!!! 😡 True, and he did not get speaking time on NBC 6:30.
HRC was dinged with some depth for State Dept access.
Surprise. McFadden gave a lot on Bill’s involvement at Laureat, Walden U, Hillarys excoriation for for-profit colleges….
And the criticism of DJT centered on his racism regarding his State of Blacks remarks.

If, upon a thorough review of the facts, Trump decides not to deport illegals who are in this country today legally and are performing jobs which cannot be automated, then those people must be paid minimum wage to deprive their employers of any incentive and to prove that these are, in fact, not jobs Americans want. I do not believe in this stiff fine of $15,000, which was not stiff enough, and it was the quid pro quo for the gang of 8 plan to award them citizenship ahead of people who applied legally and have been waiting their turn to come to this country. I would not fine these people. But sure as hell, they would go to the back of the line on citizenship, behind all those who have applied legally, regardless of how long these illegals have been living in this country at sufferance with our laws. Then if they broke the law, or tried to vote in our elections, they–and their family would be deported immediately. No exceptions.

Donald is in Austin and has some great support
Most of surrounding communities are conservative.
Freak show in Austin, but light hearted.
No, I’m not going to rally, had to be there at 11 or 12 to be sure of seat at 730, 95 degrees and high humidity…but really, it’s a health issue I haven’t shared. I will leave it at that, things are going in the right direction.
I really am sad because I feel so drawn to his message…and I love going to political rallys!

I didn’t know Hannity was taping a 2 hour townhall in Austin at the ACL center downtown, cause that might have been doable.
What’s interesting is they sale liquor there and the doors opened 3 hours before the event…that might have really been interesting!
Austin for all its liberal, ultra, leanings, does not have big race issues at all. Somehow we just get along…you know, treat each other fair. Not enough money in it for Sharpton to cause trouble here.

Keep Austin Weird is our motto.

Not that we don’t have problems, thus is a Santuary city and I know people have lost family members to illegals who have been put in jail for multiple issues, including numerous DWI’S, and released without any legal issues..you American citizens try that.

If, upon a thorough review of the facts, Trump decides not to deport illegals who are in this country today and are performing jobs which cannot be automated, then those people must be paid minimum wage to deprive their employers of any financial/competitive incentive to hire illegals, and to prove that these are, in fact, not jobs Americans will take.

I reject this stiff fine of $15,000 proposal, which was the quid pro quo for the gang of 8 plan to award them citizenship ahead of people who applied legally and have been waiting their turn to come to this country. If that is the price of citizenship to assholes like Schumer, Durbin, Flake, Graham, McCain and Rubio, who are trolling for votes, then it is too cheap.

A sound proposal would reject this phony quid pro quo, and focus on the citizenship issue entirely. I would force them to become citizens and pay taxes, with one non negotiable proviso: they would go to the back of the line on citizenship, behind all those who have applied legally, regardless of how long they have been living in this country at sufferance with our laws. Then if they broke the law, or tried to vote in our elections, they would be deported. And I would deport their families as well, because that will ensure compliance.

This is a fair proposal, because it does no harm to our economy, deprives employers of the incentive to hire illegals, and prevents those illegal from profiting by their illegal act. And, as an old Alaska cannery superintendent and friend of mine used to say: if they don’t like it they can go fuck themselves.

Wbb,
The burden on the US taxpayer for all the Bennie’s they receive free will sink this Country even under your proposal.
At minimum wage family of 4 qualifies for all subsidies that you and I would love to have, believe me.

Soros Emerges As Mastermind Behind Plan To “Enlarge Electorate By At Least 10 Million Voters”

Ever wonder who is behind all the lawsuits filed to overturn state voter ID laws? Those lawsuits are very expensive, after all, racking up 1,000’s of billable hours from some very high-end law firms. Well, courtesy of the 2,500 documents recently released by DC Leaks, we now know that George Soros is funding the legal fees as part of his stated goal to “enlarge [the U.S.] electorate by at least 10 million voters” by 2018.

The specifics of the plan were discussed at the May 2014 board meeting of the “Open Society Foundations” a liberal grant-making group founded by Soros

gonzotx
August 23, 2016 at 7:51 pm
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You are right. Then we have to make them ineligible for social security, employment security, disability, medicare, and their dependent should be ineligible as well.

This is not inhumane.

It is reality.

In addition, we should impose that net worth tax I have been advocating for billionaires, hedge fund assholes, Zuckerberg and Soros. And it they do not like it they can go to . . . . . . . . . . . . New Zealand, and commiserate with other members of their elite class who are leaving Britain over Brexit. However, we could adopt the California rule with a long arm stature, and a lien on all monies earned while they were still US citizens. Where there is a will, there is always a way. Years ago, I never would have considered a proposal such as this. But years ago, our elite class was not the cannibals these jamokes are.

I picked up a book today, called Tides of the Mind. It is written by a professor of computer science at Yale. He provides some insight into why our elites today are so corrupt. The guy who is head of Google Peter Schmidt–a stone cold sociopath fits this profile to a tee. And so does that little dick head Zuckerberg- a dilbert of a different kind.

“I have praticiced computer science for 30 years. What drew me to the field was the unlimited plastic power of computers. You can invent a machine, flip a switch and watch it come to life. A good programmer can build a program with nearly the complexity of an aircraft carrier all by himself. The fact that you can achieve so much ALL ALONE is one good reason to be fascinated–an terrified by computing. THE FIELD HAS ALWAYS ATTRACTED SOCIOPATHS.”

Trumps on fire, lots of Hispanics, Blacks in audience. ..had the mothers of children killed by illegals, heartbreaking, some, their only child. One woman, a German legal immigrant said, if you are concerned with breaking up their families, she then held a small vase with the ashes of her son, “this is all I have left”…really put that whole argument to rest.

I would prefer they all be “deported” (deport criminals, then remove benes for others and they’ll leave). The most important two things I think, though, are the wall, and ending birthright citizenship, because both would at least freeze the problem where it is right now.

I’ve seen some people write that if Trump lets some people stay, they should not be granted citizenship ever, not ever allowed to vote. That made sense to me – until I realized something. If birthright citizenship is ended (as it’s not what the 14th amendment was written for, anyway), then these people remained to stay who will never be citizens – they’ll be forever producing descendants born in this country who are not citizens. Sure, some could apply to be citizens I guess. But mostly the people allowed to stay right now and not be citizens, would create an ongoing problem generation through generation. Not much different than now.

So now, IMO, people shouldn’t be allowed to stay and not be citizens. But personally, I don’t like the idea of them staying and being granted citizenship – that’s rewarding criminal behavior which also cheated many others of their place in line. So I’m back to wanting them all to self-deport.

Maybe Trump really means it that he’s not going to make everyone leave. But maybe when he says he wants to be fair and compassionate means he’d give them a period of time to get their affairs in order, then leave. Then they can apply for citizenship from their own country, as they were supposed to. Without him being specific, it’s hard to know what “softening” means. He said he would never lie, but he does have to get elected… who knows…

Trump just said he will deport illegals even if they own a home. He says you have to come here LEGALLY and they have to go. The MSM has been touting that he changed his mind so he would lose support but Trump never softened his stance on illegals.

gonzotx
August 23, 2016 at 11:17 pm
I can’t stand all these talking heads even on Fox dissing Trump.
Saying he has a minute chance to win.
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Their track record is not an enviable one. Just follow the bouncing ball:
He won’t run
But even if he does run he will not win a single state in the primaries
But even if he does run and does win a state he will not win the primary
But even if he does run and does win a state and does win the primary he will lose at the convention
But even if he does run, does win a state, does win the primary and wins at the convention he is does not want to win
But even if he does run, does win a single state, does win the primary wins the convention and wants to win he cannot because he has not hired lobbyists and cannot raise the money
But even if he does run, does win a single state, does win the primary, wins the convention, wants to win, does not need the lobbyists and raises the money he will lose the general election by a landslide, and that is why people are not attending Hillary rallies and donations have dropped off
But even if he does run, does win a single state, does win the primary, wins the convention, wants to win, does not need lobbyists and Hillary is not doing so well he will never win because Soros controls the voting machines and/or can terminate him with extreme prejudice
And even if we rig the election or eliminate him the American People will never figure it out, because they did not go to Harvard like we did, and we dumb enough to elect Obama 2x.

The only thing you can say about these talking heads is they are seldom right but never in doubt.

O/T My House Rep, Tom Marino has a UNITY twitter account with campaign items bearing his name and Donald’s for sale. Who knew?
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PA Senator Pat Toomey has followed suit. [Surprising because he has resisted endorsing DJT. I guess he just did.]

That’s the first time I’ve seen GMA actually list the timeline in a straightforward manner. Even without commentary you would have to have your head pretty far down in the sand not to come away thinking there is something seriously wrong.

How long before the media can no longer run interference and begins to circle the wagons to protect themselves?

Hillary’s supporters don’t care. They don’t seem to understand that she put the Country and lives in danger…hey, the FBI dropped the case.
Here she is on late night just laughing away, “oh my emails are just so boring it’s embarressing “.

We’ll likely have to wait for at least another month to know what other goodies Assange has left to surprise the world about Hillary. He is not ignorant of the effect any bombshells waiting to explode can have on the outcome of the US elections, and he has made it clear that he doesn’t view a Clinton victory to be a good thing in any shape or form.

He timed the release of those DNC emails just right at the eve of the convention in Philadelphia and caused the resignation of Debbie Downer. He will very likely release any new, incriminating emails in the last few weeks before the elections to make sure they stay fresh in people’s minds as they head to the polls.

I pray for Assange’s well being, but I cannot believe he would be holding the information personally. When you have a target on your back you make sure the information will be automatically dispersed in the event of an untimely ending. I hope he has set that up, just in case.

I read yesterday the NYT has also been hacked and has enlisted the aid of the FBI. Personally, I would LOVE to know what was taken though I suspect collusion with the Ds.

I never thought our freedoms would be defended by a bunch of outlaw nerds with a hero complex. I am glad they are there.

That’s a nice wish. I’ll second that motion. Do we know if the debates will be sitting, standing or if there will be bathroom breaks involved? Finally, I have seen the schedules but do we know who is moderating?

He timed the release of those DNC emails just right at the eve of the convention in Philadelphia and caused the resignation of Debbie Downer. He will very likely release any new, incriminating emails in the last few weeks before the elections to make sure they stay fresh in people’s minds as they head to the polls.
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Assange is like a U-Boat captain in the North Pacific in 1940, watching all the establishment merchant ships crossing his bow expecting will make port in 10 days with all their assets.

Assange said that they are busy analyzing and cataloging the emails to make it easy for researchers to search them, and that is what is keeping them from releasing it immediately, at least so he says. If he dies have those 33,000 missing emails, then that is certainly going to keep Wikileaks busy for the next few weeks.

I think he also takes special precautions to redact names and details that will out informants and the innocent. I saw him say that recently and explain it creates a longer wait time since they do not want people hurt.

I like to play golf. Hell, last Saturday I shot the round of my life–an 80, which is a miracle score for a 17 handicapper. Put me out on the links with Obama and I will kick his sorry, limp wristed ass.

So we now have the image of Louisiana burned into our collective minds. People drowning, their houses flooded, their belongings destroyed. And what did Obama do? He teed it up at the Cape Cod golf course. Ignored the people.

Let’s face it. Not since Nero fiddled while Rome burned have we witnessed the image of such a self-absorbed asshole as Barack Obama. He has done nothing to bring attention to the devastation inflicted on Louisiana.

Donald Trump shrewdly and smartly took advantage of the situation to show leadership. He showed up. He brought media attention. What a contrast with Obama and Hillary. Obama did not give a shit. That message came thru loud and clear. And Hillary? She phoned it in. Too busy raising money for herself to care about the little folks in Louisiana.

Trump can still screw this up, but if he continues doing what he has done in the last 6 days during the next 85 days then he will win. Hillary, if she was both a good politician and a good person, would have beat Trump to the flood. She did not because she is not good. Period!

Hillary does not have an easy road ahead. She will be dogged by emails and the corrupt Clinton Foundation. Trump and the Republicans will beat her down to the depths of hell with just those two issues. But there will be more crap dumped on her. The biggest piece is Wild Bill. His words about illegal immigration back up Donald Trump and will haunt Hillary. His advocacy of international trade pacts will continue to weigh down Hillary. And the final surprise? Obama Care. The costs will continue to soar and those Americans facing a huge new bill will be in the mood to punish Hillary. It ain’t over.

Hillary’s road has been easy, paved by the mainMedia, they give scant knowledge of any wrong doing by her yet Melania’s speech was over a week long headline.
I just don’t have faith they will bit the hand that feds them…Soros and the Globalists…

I’m feeling very negative today, I have since Manafort left. I liked him, I liked how he handled himshelf and the media, and what a great job he did to right the ship of delegates.
I think he could have righted the Russian story.
I don’t like Conway, don’t trust her…
Coco, some good statments

Hang in there Tex. Actually, strap yourself in and hang ON. As the divine Margo Channing once said, “It’s going to be a bumpy night.” I do think we are going to have a lot of fun before victory November 8th.

Again, maybe I’m just naïve and hopeful but I think we are in for some treats. (About damn time too)

Gonzo…I understand how you feel…I think we are all going thru it at certain times…

Donald is now throwing a bigger net…he has to…he doesn’t have to go back on his major issues but he cannot alienate people he needs to vote for him…i don’t think there is anything wrong with softening him a bit and Donald letting people know he cares about them…one and all…

He is still strong, powerful…and blunt…but he has a kinder, gentler side too…he needs both sides of his ‘gemini’ self to seal this deal…he has to use everything he has got to prevail…

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what were the local reactions to his Austin rally and being in Texas….

S,
It was packed, people got there 9 hours early. Seemed very supportive and enthusiastic.
The protesters were Austin hippy like. Low keyed really.In Austin people generally get along, all colors, all faiths…at least to this point.Muslims have been growing in numbers, so that remains to be seen. I do know a couple of years back they took a Muslim terrorist suspect off a plane in Austin. He actually lived near me…

imho…donald was never going to deport 11 million people…or whatever the current number was…most of us know that…

he came out guns blazing…just like he is not going to punish women for abortions…he is not going to pull illegal but peaceful and settled families apart and drag them out of the country or put them into camps…

I think most of us figured out that was part of the way DT negotiates…he goes far out of the lines and then brings things into focus…

the way I see it…DT will build the wall and stop the flow and status quo…he will give structure and honor back to immigrants wanting to become an American citizen instead of the lawless free for all we have with O and Hillary…

he will do what he can to stop the santuary cities

he will put the lazer beam lights on getting rid of the drug cartels that are already in the US…the ones that are ruining our borders and he will deport those criminals out of the USA

imho…donald was never going to deport 11 million people…or whatever the current number was…most of us know that…

he came out guns blazing…just like he is not going to punish women for abortions…he is not going to pull illegal but peaceful and settled families apart and drag them out of the country or put them into camps…

I think most of us figured out that was part of the way DT negotiates…he goes far out of the lines and then brings things into focus…

the way I see it…DT will build the wall and stop the flow and status quo…he will give structure and honor back to immigrants wanting to become an American citizen instead of the lawless free for all we have with O and Hillary…

he will do what he can to stop the santuary cities

he will put the lazer beam lights on getting rid of the drug cartels that are already in the US…the ones that are ruining our borders and he will deport those criminals out of the USA

…that’s not bad for starters…

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Not good enough. What you’re describing is the open borders policy of Amnesty – a wall. Simply not good enough.

Trump is fortunate to have Ann Coulter as his foil. Ann is against him entertaining the idea of softening his stance on immigration. However, Coulter is not beloved by America’s readership.It’s all going to be fine.

5. employers must pay minimum wage, and withhold social security from pay check (any employer who violates this will be subject to a $10,000 fine per individual and 1 year in jail–this goes for all you two income elitists who hire illegals as maids, etc.)

6. kick that fat ass Schumer in the balls so hard his eyes bulge out. Hang Soros by the neck until dead. Give his fortune to his mistress who had to take the Hungarian monster to civil court in Manhattan to collect what was due. (Caveat: let the punishment fit the crime)

5. employers must pay minimum wage, and withhold social security from pay check (any employer who violates this will be subject to a $10,000 fine per individual and 1 year in jail–this goes for all you two income elitists who hire illegals as maids, etc.)

6. kick that fat ass Schumer in the balls so hard his eyes bulge out. Hang Soros by the neck until dead. Give his fortune to his mistress who had to take the Hungarian monster to civil court in Manhattan to collect what was due. (Caveat: let the punishment fit the crime)
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Nope. 1 – 3 we were getting anyway, so all that happened there was you negotiated away deportation without receiving anything.

Why can’t AMERICANS have their own country? Why is it incumbent upon us to accommodate every asshole ? F that. No more.

Nope. 1 – 3 we were getting anyway, so all that happened there was you negotiated away deportation without receiving anything.
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I am saying we end those things as part of the quid pro quo.

The American People need to get something out of this, and if we could eliminate those three problems, based on the notion that this was a crime, and they cannot be allowed to profit from it–then we would be better off than we are now. You could say they are ineligible to apply for citizenship until 2020, I don’t care. The deportation idea is great. The devil is in the details. Giving them some minimal form of legal status between now and then but witholding citizenship for them and their family, and preventing them from bringing their families here until they become citizens that could be an approach too. If you move too aggressively on deporting them, and cast the net too broadly, you will have a nationwide strike, and that is not something to be desired. I have been through this sort of thing before, everyone is happy to put on the war paint, dance around the fire and tell each other how tough they are until they see the conflict this creates, and then the advantages shifts to the other side, and the question becomes how do you get them back to work. Friends of mine at Morgan Lewis handled the Patco thing for Reagan, and it was not at all the way it was reported. The head of Patco did himself in, but if he had stuck to his guns, the result would probably have been different.

So her emails to Chelsea show that she DID know at the time that the attacks in Benghazi on 9/11/12 were carried out by Al Qaeda and were not the result of some spontaneous riot over an anti-Islamic YouTube video. That’s not what she told the families of the victims next to their flag-draped coffins.

Again, if you haven’t watched it yet, check out the movie “13 hours”, which is about what happened in Benghazi told from the viewpoint of the security detail protecting Ambassador Stevens and the CIA operatives trapped there.

Trump hasn’t changed his position on immigration; he’s changed his “tone” Now that he doesn’t need to draw attention away from 16 hyenas he doesn’t need to talk about Deportation Forces — we have ICE already.
He’s saying build wall, secure border, enforce the laws, and good ones can come back.
That’s the same thing he’s been saying all along — he’s just using nicer language so the MSM can’t call him an inhumane Nazi (as they did in the primary when he said Deportation Force). Anyone who can’t see that is buying MSM spin.

IMMIGRATION / ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS in the #1 issue. Get the illegals out and that helps raise wages due to the scarcity of labor and reduces unemployment. It helps alleviate those other two important issues.

To be sure, there are *some* agricultural jobs which do not appear to be capable of being mechanized. I got into a conversation concerning this on another forum. It seems to me that things such as any vegetable which is capable of producing more than one harvest can’t be performed mechanically. There are also fruit trees and plants which will have to be harvested manually. In those instances, the farmers can get limited time period waivers and they have to be responsible for returning every guest worker at the end of the season.

Beyond that, there is no need for any non-citizen to be in this country.

I am unwilling to turn the immigration question over to politicians, because experience has shown that they will cut a deal that benefits their donors (owners) and creates a Tragedy of the Commons for the rest of us. I am comfortable with letting Trump do it, because I know he will do what he thinks is best for the country, as opposed to the donor class. Even if he gets it wrong, he will not sell us out to his donor/owners the way Flake Graham and McCain did, shamelessly, and unethically. This fucking Flake is the worst of them. If could look at his curriculum vitae, he was a lobbyist and a leopard does not change its spots.

I disagree…the wall will stop a lot…that will close the borders not keep them open…it will create stability and structure which is needed immediately…and it will indicate to the world that the US is control of its own country…so do not mess with us…

imo…Donald’s current strategy is workable…he is ticking off many issues and pulling them all together…weaving…

for ex, he intends to control the border and instruct the border agents to do their jobs, the opposite is happening now…the O admin prevents them from doing their job

he intends to ‘fix’ the broken visa system which is also stealing jobs from Americans
as Wbboei included…big fat NO to Anchor babies…Donald will stop that flat…

He is saying over and over again…Americans will come first…his intention is to bring jobs back to the USA and create jobs here at home…and Americans will come first in the pecking order…

(heck, if so many of our companies have moved to Mexico, many can stay home because all those new jobs are in Mexico…and we can then concentrate on weeding out all the other illegals and criminals trying to get into the USA)

the threadline he is constructing is there has to be ‘fairness’, and Americans have to come first…ie…it is not fair for americans to lose their jobs and see their wages go down because illegals are flooding in to create that problem)

there was never any chance of Donald winning and 11 million people being thrown out of the country…he will come up with a structure…fines, some automatically must go, some that have been here for X amount of years and assmilated will be recognized in some way…

it will not be one size fits all…and for people that expect and demand that…it is not going to happen…

He’s dealing with reality and still holding his cards close to his vest…

His mission now is not to make more enemies and collect hate from every corner…

His mission is to broaden his base and engage more voters to vote for him so he can win…we only have about 75 days or so…so bear with the guy…

not to be confused…immigration and the borders are extremely important…however a little honey in choice of words now can go along way now…

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fwiw…polls tightening…and to clear up the hype coming from the media
pew trumps leads in arizona, tied in NC, trump leads in Florida and Utah

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just caught the tail end of a news report on Fox with Rosen reporting that I think the day after the O Admin sent $400 million to Iran…they paid out the rest of what they said we owed Iran…it was the end of the report but I think it said it was something over one billion dollars in million dollar increments …ALL PAID IN CASH AND UNMARKED BILLS