These incidents are becoming more and more common, when I was at school the worst most of my teachers ever got was a gentle ribbing and teasing from
some students.

It's disgraceful that someone would inflict this trauma on someone who is simply trying to improve their students lives by teaching, doing her
job.
There's been talk of metal detectors in UK schools, whilst I still don't think we're at that stage thankfully, I'm not so sure how long it will be
that way, it's a slippery slope.
My thoughts go out to the students who had to witness such a horrific thing in the supposed safe environment of the school, and to the teachers
family.

Hopefully this lad has everything thrown at him, though I remain skeptical.

When I read this news I didn't expect it to be in the UK. What a sad situation. It's very rare to hear about this sort of thing in my country. I
hope it's not something that becomes more widespread.
Thoughts go out to the family.

originally posted by: RichAwake
These incidents are becoming more and more common, when I was at school the worst most of my teachers ever got was a gentle ribbing and teasing from
some students.

Are they? First time I've heard of a teacher being killed since that Headmaster (Phillip
Lawrence) many years ago.

originally posted by: RichAwake
It's disgraceful that someone would inflict this trauma on someone who is simply trying to improve their students lives by teaching, doing her
job.

Indeed it is, but without being in possession of all the facts, let's not rush to judgement. The lad might have had some mental issues, had been
abused, the teacher might have been doing something untoward (it was a Catholic school...). Then again, it could just be another sad statistic in the
UK teenagers affair with knives and using them to settle petty disputes.

originally posted by: RichAwake
There's been talk of metal detectors in UK schools, whilst I still don't think we're at that stage thankfully, I'm not so sure how long it will be
that way, it's a slippery slope.

I don't think they are needed, although it wouldn't be the first time a single incident has been used to allow a knee jerk reaction. Bear in mind
that on any given day, there are over 8 million kids in English schools alone - the vast majority are well behaved and respect their teachers
(mostly

)

originally posted by: RichAwake
My thoughts go out to the students who had to witness such a horrific thing in the supposed safe environment of the school, and to the teachers
family.

You me both, chap. Anyone dying in this manner is a sad waste of life. Not only that, but any kids who saw it may well be affected and the lad who has
been arrested may have thrown his life away too, ruining his own family as well.

originally posted by: RichAwake
Hopefully this lad has everything thrown at him, though I remain skeptical.

Quite, but as I said above, lets not rush to judgement - too much of that around here these days. There may be mitigating factors, or he might just be
a total whackjob who had it in for his teacher. Hopefully the truth will out in Court. I'm sure if he is Guilty then they will come down hard on him
- times have changed since the soft touch approach of a few years ago.

This is a nasty incident. I remember reading last week a report on skynews which stated how many knives were being found on pupils and now today I
read this. It made me think that last weeks report was a trigger for this 15 year old to do what he did today. You know... a kind of 'Mind Control'
thing...

Hope they find out why he did it.

i also wonder what the next update will be on cctv and security in or around schools and soon workplaces... I can see there being more intrusion into
peoples private lives... maybe even into peoples homes...

Absolutely Stu, agree completely. There may be mitigating circumstances, but it doesn't really change my view on it, but that's for the
courts to decide.. Maybe "more and more common" was the wrong phrase, but It seems like violence in schools is on the increase, and regardless of
the level of it, it needs stamping out.

What worries me is that out of 8 millions kids, the actions of a minority will over time ensure that more measures will need to be in place (knee-jerk
or not), I sincerely hope our schools do not become akin to prisons in 10 years time with security, metal detectors, etc as this would be detrimental
to the whole school "vibe", and wouldn't exactly feel like a place to promote personal growth and learning.

Im very skeptical of all of these stories lately, ill leave that at that.

But, having said that, as someone who spent quite a while working in a middle school, I can tell you that most people have no idea how many knives and
weapons are walking the school halls every day. Its very concerning.

It's been headline news on the radio and TV due to how rare these incidents are. The last Ofsted report said it was a 'good' school and news
soundbites and reported tweets from pupils describe her as a great teacher who cared about her students.

She'd just reached her 40th year of teaching at 61 and there's no suggestion or reason to imply she was anything more than a popular teacher.

originally posted by: RichAwake
These incidents are becoming more and more common, when I was at school the worst most of my teachers ever got was a gentle ribbing and teasing from
some students.

I disagree with this Daily Mail appraisal. When was the last time a teacher was stabbed to death in school in the UK. Not common. In fact,
extremely uncommon. Very tragic, but it does not help to over sensationalise.

This is a good school.....for that area. Put it this way, it isn't as bad now but a few years ago they needed doormen from 7am for the local leisure
centre!

This poor lady is the first teacher killed in a classroom for decades (possibly ever in the UK). My thoughts definitely go out to her friends, family
and the poor students who had to witness it.

However, before we all rush to judgement, let me reiterate that this is a really sh*** area in general. Halton Moor is not a nice place - it is the
sort of area that has every social issue to contend with that you get in this country. The lad in question is 15 so certainly old enough to know right
from wrong but it really isn't an exaggeration to say that if he is from Halton Moor then there is every possibility that he comes from a terrible
home life. And by that i mean regularly watching mum or dad inject and then mong out, etc, etc.

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