In many areas, stick clips are frowned upon and the accepted practice is to "boulder" to the first bolt.

This of course involves creating a stack of small to medium rocks, or "boulders", one can stand on to reach the bolt.

In areas where natural "boulders" are sparse or particularly heavy you may wish to employ special thick foam "boulder mats" for this purpose though in a pinch logs, spare tires, well trained dogs or the hood of your car will work equally well.

ZERO Fool! It's a Pink point. Question asked at the NEW, if someone placed all your gear on a trad climb would it be a pink point? LOL and we all had another shot and a beer and proceeded to school the kid.

Meh, sport climbing is essentially one big compromise of style (and ethics) to achieve a higher difficulty. (Please don't take that as me passing judgment. I'm not. I sport climb some, too, and like it just fine.) I don't see anything disingenuous with sticking the first bolt on a sport climb and calling your send a redpoint. Hell, "redpoint" is also a compromise of style.

But whatever! If there's one thing I love about climbing, it's the freedom I have to create my own version of the sport.

Hey j_ung! If you see Roger say Hi - Bud from Moab(the Nancy and Greg connection) he will know. As to ethics, call it what it is, no half truths and don't call it what it ain't. I've gotten pretty good at aiding what I can't free climb or am too fraidy cat to commit to. Lost my rule book, was recalling pink point from memory. But as I'm getting up in years my memory is probably failing me. One thing I still remember is how to smile when I'm stick clipping that first bolt.