Thanks, BB. Though not vintage I suspect the O'Farrell will be a quality piece. The POS reference was about my ability, or rather the lack thereof, to shape it properly. (Don't hate the hat, hate the wearer.) I walked through the hardware store yesterday looking for inspiration about shaping the brim. I've read about some of the DIY different methods - kettle edge, hose, cord, fingers. Was probably going to browse the hobby and craft stores next. Also, after looking through here and a couple other threads I've been thinking about getting a lower quality beater hat to practice on first. I've found several at various antique shops but have ignored them due to the condition/size/quality.

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A 2 - 3" length of 5/16 dowlrod works good too in place of a cotton clothesline rope. Any longer than that & it's hard to make curves & corners.

I thought your O'Farrell was a Glen Family hat? I'll have to find the pic again.

A 2 - 3" length of 5/16 dowlrod works good too in place of a cotton clothesline rope. Any longer than that & it's hard to make curves & corners.

I thought your O'Farrell was a Glen Family hat? I'll have to find the pic again.

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I actually grabbed a 3/8" dowel but put it back. Figured I might as well have the hat in hand first.

I'm pretty sure you're right that it's a Glenn era hat. There was a Stelzig of Texas stamp on the sweat. Doing some digging that incarnation was from 1992-2003, so smack dab in the middle of the Glenn era. Might be a slight overlap at the front end, but not likely. I'll be able to check for a date in a few hours. Little bit disappointed about this fact, but hopefully still a good hat.

I like the rolling pin, dowel rod idea. Meant to add yesterday that I had a yard hose blow up and I cut some sections from it to use. The pieces have a slight curve to them which helps a bit.

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I have either a 3/4 or 1" dia dowl rod that I use for the center crease on a Cattleman crease. When you pinch the felt around it from the inside it ends up being a bit wider than the dia of the rod & works out perfectly. For a wider Rancher or a center crease I use one of the rolling pins.

PS: BB, I meant to add the fenders you do always look nice & not like something from the Flying Nun.

I actually grabbed a 3/8" dowel but put it back. Figured I might as well have the hat in hand first.

I'm pretty sure you're right that it's a Glenn era hat. There was a Stelzig of Texas stamp on the sweat. Doing some digging that incarnation was from 1992-2003, so smack dab in the middle of the Glenn era. Might be a slight overlap at the front end, but not likely. I'll be able to check for a date in a few hours. Little bit disappointed about this fact, but hopefully still a good hat.

You're welcome. The great thing about a quality piece is you can keep ironing it flat and starting over. One of the best tools I've found for curling a brim by hand is a plastic 5 gal. bucket. Working the hat upside down with the amount of brim you want to work hanging over the edge. I understood your POS reference.

Does anyone know anything about the Stetson One, Two, Three (Fall 2019 catalog)? I see the brim is 3" but I'm curious how else this hat differs from the Open Road Royal Deluxe.

Also, Is the Four Points 6X or 4X?

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I can't speak to the quality, but I really like the style of that hat. It was interesting to see the arrow on the bow keeper and can't help but wonder who stole what from whom.
This from a Black Cherry Open Road style hat I made sometime last year:

That design caught my eye as well. These hats are still in production and haven't hit stores yet (I follow one of Stetson's designers on instagram and she posted some vids from the factory the other day of the fall line hats).

Interesting that they didn't put a felt designation in the description.

That design caught my eye as well. These hats are still in production and haven't hit stores yet (I follow one of Stetson's designers on instagram and she posted some vids from the factory the other day of the fall line hats).

Interesting that they didn't put a felt designation in the description.

It is a bit bigger all around than the current OR.

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Who is the designer? I'd like to follow her too.

The catalog is woefully lacking in substantive information regarding the felt designation. But the images indicate it is soft like the Royal Deluxe. I'm not sure if the 3" brim is enough to entice me away from the OR RD, but it's worth a look.

Yesterday I visited the Stetson Factory store and came home with a BOtP.
At the factory store the first hat purchase is 50% off the already near half retail pricing. Add'l purchases get bigger discounts.

Yesterday I visited the Stetson Factory store and came home with a BOtP.
At the factory store the first hat purchase is 50% off the already near half retail pricing. Add'l purchases get bigger discounts.

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SHARP! Great looking!

Does the factory pricing apply to online orders too or just in-person? If it does apply to online, do you have a link?

The catalog is woefully lacking in substantive information regarding the felt designation. But the images indicate it is soft like the Royal Deluxe. I'm not sure if the 3" brim is enough to entice me away from the OR RD, but it's worth a look.