why am i not surprised. Now they can pick at Gates and our playbook. You think the dolphins are smart enough to get Brian Hoyer from the Patriots and pick at him? Nope.

We have Will Yeatman on our team. Im sure he had info. No big deal. Settle down.....

J. David Wannyheimer

09-01-2012, 01:35 PM

why am i not surprised. Now they can pick at Gates and our playbook. You think the dolphins are smart enough to get Brian Hoyer from the Patriots and pick at him? Nope.

Based on what I heard about Clyde Gates not picking up the offense... I'm really not too worried about it.

JBinSD

09-01-2012, 01:38 PM

"Clyde, we signed you for your speed and knowledge of the Dolphins playbook. We are really going to rely on you to get up to speed and ogbtain an edge on the Dolphins."

......

"Gee coach, can I call mah gramma?"

Calgaryfin

09-01-2012, 01:45 PM

Not to worry Sanchez or Tebow couldn't hit him even if he was open

Tiko377

09-01-2012, 01:50 PM

Jets claimed WR Clyde Gates off waivers from the Dolphins.

From one of the league's worst receiver corps to another. A fourth-round pick last season, Gates is a true burner, but proved to be extraordinarily raw as a rookie, making just two catches in 15 games. He's not the answer for the Jets' beleaguered receiver corps.

Sep 1 - 1:37 PM

DphinBillkiller

09-01-2012, 01:50 PM

Well it figures that the Jets would pick through the Dolphins trash.

MadDog 88

09-01-2012, 01:50 PM

The Jets are very active in signing guys. Not surprised they signed Gates. Their WR corps is almost as bad as the Dolphins

Dolph N.Fan

09-01-2012, 01:52 PM

It’s pretty bad (sad?) when a team is claiming Dolphins players.

Billk78

09-01-2012, 01:52 PM

If Gates couldnt learn our playbook here how is he going to be able to pass any knowledge on to the Jets?

sharp

09-01-2012, 01:52 PM

I'm sure tony wants him so he can fake going deep

Flip Tanneflop

09-01-2012, 01:56 PM

LMAO Tony Sparano.

coolest

09-01-2012, 02:07 PM

You think he's gonna sell BINY t-shirts now??

Gadsden86

09-01-2012, 03:08 PM

So they like our castoffs. Thats 2 for them.

http://www.kffl.com/player/24756/nfl/clyde-gates

phinzfan21

09-01-2012, 03:12 PM

One D and 1 O. Just wanting info about us I bet.

Dolph N.Fan

09-01-2012, 03:13 PM

There were like 3 threads on this already that got moved somewhere.

mrhankey81701

09-01-2012, 03:14 PM

Jets look horrendous on offense so who cares

Dolfan4life!

09-01-2012, 03:15 PM

One D and 1 O. Just wanting info about us I bet.
Not too sure they'll get anything useful out of Clyde. Apparently he didn't pick up very much of the new offense...

not me im totally cool with a group of bess hartline armstrong nannee moore. never liked gates. always liked marlon

JPPT1974

09-01-2012, 03:58 PM

For the time being he will be the #4 WR. Or be used on special teams.

dlockz

09-01-2012, 04:03 PM

not me im totally cool with a group of bess hartline armstrong nannee moore. never liked gates. always liked marlon

my biggest problem with gates is i feel we overdrafted him. I spoke about him at great length last year about him being a very raw prospect but of course was chided and told he was a much better prospect than johnny Knox.

houtz

09-01-2012, 04:14 PM

I would have rather kept Gates than Moore but like neither player.

Moore has continued to develop. Gates is already 40 years old and can't run a single route.

Apparently, Jabba the Svelter Jest will sprinkle all the Fins' trash with foot powder and make them smell sweet enough to declare himself the Greatest Head Coach of All Time who Has Never Even Been to a Super Bowl. :sidelol:

Kinzua

09-03-2012, 06:12 PM

Since nobody has posted it yet: SUPERBOWL!!!

nyjunc

09-04-2012, 07:51 AM

Now Clyde Gates sucks? he was the next great thing not long ago. what happened?

we take your trash and we win w/ them. We carried Jason taylor further than he ever went in Miami, we made Patrick Turner a useful player and Gates could become a useful player.

Well, if Ireland, who from an ego standpoint, is notorious for holding on to his picks too long, got rid of Gates after one year, especially on a receiving roster as bad as the jest, it speaks volumes, especially when you got the HC who understands the difference between a Greg Jennings, James Jones vs a Gates.

Also, realistically, at this point, Turner wouldn't start for us and did it ever occur to you that Jason Taylor might well have been the main reason the jest had 1 legitimate winning season instead of 7-7-2 or 8-8 the one season he was there? Coincidence? I think not.

But nonetheless it's entertaining how you spin ****. :up:

nyjunc

09-04-2012, 09:50 AM

Jason taylor made about 2-3 plays all year, he hurt us as much as he helped us so no it never occured to me that he was the reason b/c he wasn't the reason but you should be appreciative of the fact that the Jets got him further than he ever got in Miami.

SpurzN703

09-04-2012, 10:22 AM

Now Clyde Gates sucks? he was the next great thing not long ago. what happened?

we take your trash and we win w/ them. We carried Jason taylor further than he ever went in Miami, we made Patrick Turner a useful player and Gates could become a useful player.

Further proof the New York Jets can do no wrong and are the complete opposite of the worst team in sports, the Miami Dolphins. The Jets have swept the Dolphins for the last 200 years b/c the organizations couldn't be more polar opposites of each other.

Now Clyde Gates sucks? he was the next great thing not long ago. what happened?

When the **** has anyone said Clyde Gates was great?

nyjunc

09-04-2012, 10:23 AM

Further proof the New York Jets can do no wrong and are the complete opposite of the worst team in sports, the Miami Dolphins. The Jets have swept the Dolphins for the last 200 years b/c the organizations couldn't be more polar opposites of each other.

Once again you have nothing to post so you will make things up. I never said gates could play, I never praised the jets or bashed the dolphins. Just wondering what happened to the guy I heard so much about and now that he is gone he sucks.

SpurzN703

09-04-2012, 10:28 AM

Once again you have nothing to post so you will make things up. I never said gates could play, I never praised the jets or bashed the dolphins. Just wondering what happened to the guy I heard so much about and now that he is gone he sucks.

And you didn't make things up? When has anyone said Gates was a great player? Let's see it

nyjunc

09-04-2012, 10:38 AM

And you didn't make things up? When has anyone said Gates was a great player? Let's see it

the Clyde gates stuff on here w/in the last year was ridiculous. here's a sampling:

Count how many times people use the word HOPE. That means he might have the potential. Not one person said he was the next great thing which is YOUR quote.

nyjunc

09-04-2012, 11:54 AM

:chuckle:

That's your proof?

Count how many times people use the word HOPE. That means he might have the potential. Not one person said he was the next great thing which is YOUR quote.

That's just an example, this board was flooded a "Clyde gates" nonsense last year just like the Vontae Davis, Brandon Marshall, etc...l

SpurzN703

09-04-2012, 12:15 PM

That's just an example, this board was flooded a "Clyde gates" nonsense last year just like the Vontae Davis, Brandon Marshall, etc...l

A poor example. Having hope is different than feeling the guy is great. No more examples to show?

nyjunc

09-04-2012, 12:21 PM

A poor example. Having hope is different than feeling the guy is great. No more examples to show?

So I guess "having hope" is what you call it? all the posts, all the threads like w/ Gates, Henne, Davis, Marshall, etc...? Now it's "having hope". Got it.

SpurzN703

09-04-2012, 02:36 PM

So I guess "having hope" is what you call it? all the posts, all the threads like w/ Gates, Henne, Davis, Marshall, etc...? Now it's "having hope". Got it.

Focus please. This latest discussion about why your team is all-time great worthy is about Clyde Gates. Not once in your example did anyone already proclaim Gates was great.

Hope. It's a funny thing. I know for a fact you have hope that the Jets season will be more like their elite years (sarcasm) rather than .500.

nyjunc

09-04-2012, 02:43 PM

Focus please. This latest discussion about why your team is all-time great worthy is about Clyde Gates. Not once in your example did anyone already proclaim Gates was great.

Hope. It's a funny thing. I know for a fact you have hope that the Jets season will be more like their elite years (sarcasm) rather than .500.

do you have to take every word literally? the point is the Gates talk was nonstop about how good he would be and now that he is gone he sucks just like so many before him. Whether it was telling me how great Calvin pace was when rumors had Miami signing him then telling me how he sucked when we signed him or how great a coach Saban was going to be or Cameron, Sparano and now Philbin. How great Daunte was, Green, Henne,... How great Hartline was going to be become, gates, etc...

SpurzN703

09-04-2012, 04:31 PM

do you have to take every word literally? the point is the Gates talk was nonstop about how good he would be and now that he is gone he sucks just like so many before him. Whether it was telling me how great Calvin pace was when rumors had Miami signing him then telling me how he sucked when we signed him or how great a coach Saban was going to be or Cameron, Sparano and now Philbin. How great Daunte was, Green, Henne,... How great Hartline was going to be become, gates, etc...

Hoping he is good is not the same as saying he will be good. Those are two different things. Don't you as a fan hope every player on your team does well?

nyjunc

09-04-2012, 04:34 PM

Yep but I don't talk up every player like they will be really good then bash them when they aren't.

SpurzN703

09-04-2012, 08:05 PM

Yep but I don't talk up every player like they will be really good then bash them when they aren't.

So you're better than some people on this site? Jesus, you act like this sort of thing doesn't go on elsewhere. There's no need to rag on people whose team hasn't done anything in years and only have hope to hold onto anything positive.

13ktownguy

09-05-2012, 01:45 AM

Jason taylor made about 2-3 plays all year, he hurt us as much as he helped us so no it never occured to me that he was the reason b/c he wasn't the reason but you should be appreciative of the fact that the Jets got him further than he ever got in Miami.
He was the best player in the history of your team!

Kinzua

09-05-2012, 10:13 AM

Apparently the Jests are doing more dumpster diving for WRs. They have reportedly tried out ex-Dolphin Derek Hagan who played for part of last season for the Bills and was cut by them last week.

Maybe somebody should explain to Mike Tannenbaum that the point of picking through the NFL scrapheap for future Super Bowl MVPs is to improve your team, so maybe he should look at the WRs that great passing teams like GB and NO cut rather than at the WRs that couldn't even make teams with, ahem, very modest passing games. :crazy:

nyjunc

09-05-2012, 01:15 PM

Kinzua: what you don't realize is that good organizations are always looking for players, kicking the tires, etc... We all know the great Buddy nix doesn't ned any more players, his roster is set in stone. The man is genius at building teams.

Kinzua

09-05-2012, 04:06 PM

Kinzua: what you don't realize is that good organizations are always looking for players, kicking the tires, etc... We all know the great Buddy nix doesn't ned any more players, his roster is set in stone. The man is genius at building teams.

Actually, the Bills didn't sign anybody to their active roster from the last cuts, so no, they didn't pick through the NFL trash bin looking for players. Several of their cuts were signed by other teams however. They did sign several practice squad players from other teams.

Buddy Nix also didn't babble on about holding a "mini draft" from final cuts like Mike Tannenbaum did.

nyjunc

09-06-2012, 07:54 AM

Actually, the Bills didn't sign anybody to their active roster from the last cuts, so no, they didn't pick through the NFL trash bin looking for players. Several of their cuts were signed by other teams however. They did sign several practice squad players from other teams.

Buddy Nix also didn't babble on about holding a "mini draft" from final cuts like Mike Tannenbaum did.

Good organizations are always bringing in players to take a look. Buddy's Bills don't fall into that category which is why you aren't bringing anyone in.

J. David Wannyheimer

09-06-2012, 01:51 PM

Good organizations are always bringing in players to take a look. Buddy's Bills don't fall into that category which is why you aren't bringing anyone in.

Plenty of bad organizations bring in players to take a look, too. See: Jets, New York.

JETSJETSJETS

09-06-2012, 02:40 PM

Apparently the Jests are doing more dumpster diving for WRs. They have reportedly tried out ex-Dolphin Derek Hagan who played for part of last season for the Bills and was cut by them last week.

Maybe somebody should explain to Mike Tannenbaum that the point of picking through the NFL scrapheap for future Super Bowl MVPs is to improve your team, so maybe he should look at the WRs that great passing teams like GB and NO cut rather than at the WRs that couldn't even make teams with, ahem, very modest passing games. :crazy:

Mike wants to send you a thank you note for Maybin. Wasn't he part of one of the worst defense?

Actually, the Bills didn't sign anybody to their active roster from the last cuts, so no, they didn't pick through the NFL trash bin looking for players. Several of their cuts were signed by other teams however. They did sign several practice squad players from other teams.

Buddy Nix also didn't babble on about holding a "mini draft" from final cuts like Mike Tannenbaum did.

Actually, good teams kick every tire they can. See the Patriots. They have brought in and looked at every TE on earth. Bills? They think they are too good and don't need any more help to win that SB they have been desiring for their entire lives. Good luck with that. It has worked for you guys so well in the past, Im sure it won't disappoint you this year either.

nyjunc

09-06-2012, 03:59 PM

Plenty of bad organizations bring in players to take a look, too. See: Jets, New York.

Yep our bad organization that has the most playoff wins in the league under the current regime.

Can you guys ever remove your hatred/jealousy of us when you discuss us?

J. David Wannyheimer

09-06-2012, 04:57 PM

Yep our bad organization that has the most playoff wins in the league under the current regime.

Can you guys ever remove your hatred/jealousy of us when you discuss us?

Good organizations are always bringing in players to take a look. Buddy's Bills don't fall into that category which is why you aren't bringing anyone in.

Nothing good is coming out of Miami's seconds at the wide receiver position........you cannot kick the tires if there are none on the car.

nyjunc

09-06-2012, 05:15 PM

Nothing good is coming out of Miami's seconds at the wide receiver position........you cannot kick the tires if there are none on the car.

Gates has speed, what we lacked last year was speed. he may never do anything for us but I know we liked him coming into the draft a couple of years ago and it doesn't hurt to pick him up. No one thought we'd get anything out of Aaron Maybin either, we'll see what happens.

Fin_Frenzy_84

09-06-2012, 06:59 PM

Yep our bad organization that has the most playoff wins in the league under the current regime.

Can you guys ever remove your hatred/jealousy of us when you discuss us?

Its so funny how Jets fans settle for playoff wins and not superbowls....

JETSJETSJETS

09-06-2012, 07:45 PM

Its so funny how Jets fans settle for playoff wins and not superbowls....

Its funny Dolphin fans settle for records and not SBs...(Marino reference). How many SBs have you piled up?

13ktownguy

09-06-2012, 08:12 PM

Its funny Dolphin fans settle for records and not SBs...(Marino reference). How many SBs have you piled up?

Twice as many as you!

nyjunc

09-07-2012, 08:07 AM

Its so funny how Jets fans settle for playoff wins and not superbowls....

you settle for battling for last place every year, I like our position better.

Kinzua

09-07-2012, 08:29 AM

Good organizations are always bringing in players to take a look. Buddy's Bills don't fall into that category which is why you aren't bringing anyone in.

Actually, this is the first year that the Bills did NOT bring in some players from the 53-man cuts, which says they didn't see anybody out there better than what they already have. I'm sure there are other teams around the league that passed on making roster moves, too.

They did make a move late in preseason to secure a better backup QB than Tyler Thigpen by trading a 7th for Tarvaris Jackson. They could have probably waited to the final cuts, but they didn't want to take the chance of him going elsewhere. A competent backup QB with starting experience is definitely worth a 7th rounder.

Kinzua

09-07-2012, 08:50 AM

Mike wants to send you a thank you note for Maybin. Wasn't he part of one of the worst defense?

You're welcome to Maybin. At least he hasn't been quite the bust that Gholston was. :lol:

Actually, good teams kick every tire they can. See the Patriots. They have brought in and looked at every TE on earth. Bills? They think they are too good and don't need any more help to win that SB they have been desiring for their entire lives. Good luck with that. It has worked for you guys so well in the past, Im sure it won't disappoint you this year either.

You Jests fans, like your GM, seem to think there are Super Bowl MVPs being cut at the end of the preseason. There aren't. The best ones are youngsters who get caught up in numbers games, and so can help teams that are thin at those positions. I'm sure if some team cut a Pro Bowl 4-3 MLB in his prime, the Bills would be have rushed to "kick the tires", but those guys don't get cut at the end of preseason; they get released or traded before their roster bonuses hit. The Bills and numerous other NFL teams did their shopping back in March and April when the inventory was fresh rather than waiting for the end-of-season clearance sales from the picked over stuff that didn't sell.

Yep our bad organization that has the most playoff wins in the league under the current regime.

Can you guys ever remove your hatred/jealousy of us when you discuss us?

The Gnats' 4 playoff wins in 2012 are worth at least 100x all the Jests playoff wins in the last three years ... and all the Jests playoff wins since 1969, too.

nyjunc

09-07-2012, 09:22 AM

You're welcome to Maybin. At least he hasn't been quite the bust that Gholston was. :lol:

You Jests fans, like your GM, seem to think there are Super Bowl MVPs being cut at the end of the preseason. There aren't. The best ones are youngsters who get caught up in numbers games, and so can help teams that are thin at those positions. I'm sure if some team cut a Pro Bowl 4-3 MLB in his prime, the Bills would be have rushed to "kick the tires", but those guys don't get cut at the end of preseason; they get released or traded before their roster bonuses hit. The Bills and numerous other NFL teams did their shopping back in March and April when the inventory was fresh rather than waiting for the end-of-season clearance sales from the picked over stuff that didn't sell.

The Gnats' 4 playoff wins in 2012 are worth at least 100x all the Jests playoff wins in the last three years ... and all the Jests playoff wins since 1969, too.

what you fail to understand is that you aren't looking for great players at cutdown day but guys that can contribute, guys that can develop. Good organizations are always looking to add talent, when you think your roster is settled you are mistaken. That's bad management if you think your job is done at cutdown day.

Cool but no team has more playoff wins since 2009, right? so no matter what you think opf us you surely can understand we have been one of the best teams in the league, right?

NY8123

09-07-2012, 11:13 AM

Gates has speed, what we lacked last year was speed. he may never do anything for us but I know we liked him coming into the draft a couple of years ago and it doesn't hurt to pick him up. No one thought we'd get anything out of Aaron Maybin either, we'll see what happens.

So did Ten Ginn Jr. you just signed yourself GinnV2.0

nyjunc

09-07-2012, 11:26 AM

So did Ten Ginn Jr. you just signed yourself GinnV2.0

we aren't counting on him, we are taking a chance w/ him. If he is a Ginn type that could be ok b/c we can use more deep threats. If not, we let him go. he's a role player here unlike Ginn who was counted on to do so many things for you.

JETSJETSJETS

09-07-2012, 06:42 PM

You're welcome to Maybin. At least he hasn't been quite the bust that Gholston was. :lol:

He made up for Gholston. We got him for dirt cheap with no draft compensation.

You Jests fans, like your GM, seem to think there are Super Bowl MVPs being cut at the end of the preseason. There aren't. The best ones are youngsters who get caught up in numbers games, and so can help teams that are thin at those positions. I'm sure if some team cut a Pro Bowl 4-3 MLB in his prime, the Bills would be have rushed to "kick the tires", but those guys don't get cut at the end of preseason; they get released or traded before their roster bonuses hit. The Bills and numerous other NFL teams did their shopping back in March and April when the inventory was fresh rather than waiting for the end-of-season clearance sales from the picked over stuff that didn't sell.

We are not really looking for a SB MVP out of Clyde. He might not even see the field IF he even makes it through the first few games. He'll be a special teamer and a safety blanket incase Hill and Schilen get injured.

Are we really discussing this about a guy thats probably ranked 53rd on the Jets squad?

The Gnats' 4 playoff wins in 2012 are worth at least 100x all the Jests playoff wins in the last three years ... and all the Jests playoff wins since 1969, too.

How about their two wins in the playoffs against Brady? Are they better than all ur playoff wins in the entire history? Im not sure how a Bills fan can even make such an argument.

JETSJETSJETS

09-07-2012, 06:53 PM

Twice as many as you!

Which is one more than the Jets. Congrats. Lets see when you'll win ur first playoff in over a decade. Boy it seems like the a long time doesn't it?

Funny thing is, I was watching Hard Knocks last night. That organization has tons of signs reading "Champions play here" and "Champions practice here". I wonder if they were referring to the Steelers/Pats/Giants? Cuz Dolphins haven't come close to winning a playoff game in a decade.

Kinzua

09-07-2012, 06:54 PM

He made up for Gholston. We got him for dirt cheap with no draft compensation.

Yeah, but you wasted a top 5 pick on Gholston. You didn't get anything for him, either.

We are not really looking for a SB MVP out of Clyde. He might not even see the field IF he even makes it through the first few games. He'll be a special teamer and a safety blanket incase Hill and Schilen get injured.

Seems like your team has a lot of "safety blankets" and NOT too many stars. BTW, did Schilens even play in a preseason game or was he such a non-entity that he didn't even get hit in the back by a Sanchez pass or get over-thrown by Tebow.

How about their two wins in the playoffs against Brady? Are they better than all ur playoff wins in the entire history? Im not sure how a Bills fan can even make such an argument.

A few of the Bills playoff wins at least got the them tickets to the Super Bowl. The Jets recent wins, which is what you were bragging on, got the Jets nothing. It's NOT how many playoff games a teams wins, it's where they end up. DOH.

jetsknicks1

09-08-2012, 08:20 AM

Yeah, but you wasted a top 5 pick on Gholston. You didn't get anything for him, either.

Seems like your team has a lot of "safety blankets" and NOT too many stars. BTW, did Schilens even play in a preseason game or was he such a non-entity that he didn't even get hit in the back by a Sanchez pass or get over-thrown by Tebow.

A few of the Bills playoff wins at least got the them tickets to the Super Bowl. The Jets recent wins, which is what you were bragging on, got the Jets nothing. It's NOT how many playoff games a teams wins, it's where they end up. DOH.
You know what those tickets to the Super Bowl got you? Nothing.

MadDog 88

09-08-2012, 10:15 AM

You know what those tickets to the Super Bowl got you? Nothing.
Coming from a Jets fan that's ridiculous. You guys hang your hat on appearing in two consecutive AFCCG.

Vaark

09-08-2012, 08:38 PM

The.Jest are the only team in the division to never have won 3 games in a postseason...Fact!

jetsknicks1

09-09-2012, 11:30 AM

Coming from a Jets fan that's ridiculous. You guys hang your hat on appearing in two consecutive AFCCG.
I don't hang my hat on anything. Just think that it's kind of amusing that a Jills fan wants to talk about Super Bowls.

JETSJETSJETS

09-09-2012, 05:11 PM

Coming from a Jets fan that's ridiculous. You guys hang your hat on appearing in two consecutive AFCCG.

And u guys hang ur hat on Matt Moore magical run? At least the AFCCGs are from two to three yrs ago n not two to three decades ago.

JETSJETSJETS

09-09-2012, 05:15 PM

The.Jest are the only team in the division to never have won 3 games in a postseason...Fact!

They are also the only team that has a perfect record in the SB.

JETSJETSJETS

09-09-2012, 05:23 PM

Yeah, but you wasted a top 5 pick on Gholston. You didn't get anything for him, either.

Yes we did. We got Maybin. That roster spot eventually went over to Maybin.

Seems like your team has a lot of "safety blankets" and NOT too many stars. BTW, did Schilens even play in a preseason game or was he such a non-entity that he didn't even get hit in the back by a Sanchez pass or get over-thrown by Tebow.

Two things. 1. Schilen was injured through out the preseason. 2. Hill killed ur secondary.

A few of the Bills playoff wins at least got the them tickets to the Super Bowl. The Jets recent wins, which is what you were bragging on, got the Jets nothing. It's NOT how many playoff games a teams wins, it's where they end up. DOH.

uhhh, yeah? When it's about "where they end up", why are u even bringing ur failed attempts at SB?