Sixty-five years after a UFO allegedly crashed in Roswell, New Mexico, a retired Air Force official has spoken out to say that not only did the shocking incident really happen  but it happened twice. an unusual object fell from the sky and crashed to the ground in Roswell.

Military authorities issued a press release after the shocking incident, saying: The many rumours regarding the flying disc became a reality yesterday when the intelligence officer of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field, was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc.

But, just 24 hours later, the military retracted their earlier statement and claimed the object they had first thought was a 'flying disc' was a weather balloon that had crashed on a nearby ranch.

The media and the public accepted the explanation without question. Since then, conspiracy theorists and officials such as French have called into question the military's line on the incident.

There were actually two crashes at Roswell, which most people don't know,..."

From November 17, 1947 to December 23, 1947, John Bardeen and Walter Brattain at AT&T's Bell Labs in the United States, performed experiments and observed that when two gold point contacts were applied to a crystal of germanium, a signal was produced with the output power greater than the input. Solid State Physics Group leader William Shockley saw the potential in this, and over the next few months worked to greatly expand the knowledge of semiconductors. Wikipedia®

Thanks for the ping, Lucy. I think it’s interesting that the Mars Rover vehicle still looks so much like the 1972 Viking space probe pictured at the Daily Mail with the article. In turn they both look a great deal like the “classic” UFO disc-shaped craft that purportedly crashed in Roswell. Just something to think about...

There has always been talk of reverse engineering in regards to the craft recovered at Roswell, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if the result is exactly what we saw landing on Mars...

And by the end of 1947 Bell Labs had successfully developed the groundwork for the key active component in practically all modern electronics: the transistor. The rest, of course, is history. That was some quick reverse engineering right there!

I am not confirming or denying the guy’s claims, but I can say this for sure:

If you can build a magnetron, you can build a directed energy weapon, and we were building them at that time.

It doesn’t even take anything as advanced as a klystron or magnetron to generate an EMP pulse, nor a nuclear reaction. A spark gap with a hefty capacitor bank, focused using a waveguide, and you have yourself a very simple directed energy weapon capable of disrupting modern unshielded microelectronics.

To deny that fact would be to discount the work of many great WW2 era scientists and engineers, not to mention just totally disregard most practical applications of high powered RF fields.

I am a middle aged engineer in the semiconductor industry, and I can guarantee you that the technology existed at the time to be able to disrupt what we consider contemporary microelectronics.

I would lean on the side of this not happening the way the guy said though, based on the fact that any sufficiently advanced alien technology base would have proper shielding in place to protect against such directed energy (and I don’t mean star trek/wars shields here, just faraday cages, and lead or foil shielding from cosmic ray particles). You couldn’t fly through space without it.

His claim was that the UFO was fired upon by a beam weapon from a plane....moreover there were no beam weapons at that time. Just because one has components does not a weapon make. I am older than you by twenty years (if you are middle aged). The things I have worked on (and continue to work on) have all been of the SDI variety. Klystrons do not a laser make. Magnetrons do not a directed energy weapon make. It is nice that you do semiconductors...all that equipment that you use to produce the devices is years in the making. The truth is knowing the fundamentals is NOT the same as producing a weapon.

I will believe in ET when he lands in public view and makes contact with humans.
So far, EVERY report of ET has been anecdotal, with zero proof.
Despite all the garbage reported on Kook to Kook, it is hard to believe that any ET life has been here from other star systems that are many light years away.
Just my opinion, and no offense to FReeper ET fans.

So French, who was no where near Roswell in ‘47, ‘knows’ that there were, not just one, but two crashes near Roswell. And how does he know this? Because some unnamed friend told him that he shot one of them down with a directed energy weapom mounted in an experimental aircraft.

Well no wonder the USAF never took the UFO’s seriously as a threat! Clearly we didn’t need to reverse engineer any tech from them; ours was already superior! /s

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posted on 08/07/2012 10:21:55 PM PDT
by VietVet
(I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)

You must not work on the “good stuff” then. (good stuff being the interesting directed energy type stuff -— I do digital).

All the theory and even practice were already available in the late-30’s. And yes, you can make a directed energy weapon with a klystron or magnetron.

Not sure why you’d claim otherwise.

But I don’t doubt that a lot of groundwork has been laid for semiconductors, wasn’t doubting it all, not sure why you put that out there, unless it was to educate others on this thread? Don’t really care... I know semiconductor processes have been a evolutionary progression from those early days in Bell Labs. If we had alien technology, I’d expect we’d be much further along by now. I want my atocirc!

But my point still stands, you can build a microelectronics disrupting beam weapon with 40’s electronics, the theory and the practice was out there. The guy didn’t claim the US Army shot it out of the air with a laser. Read the article, he claims EMP. The weapon itself was very doable and was more than theory in the 40’s.

And remember, we had atomic shots at that point, and knew about severe EMP as well and its after effects, to some extent.

Finally, if you are working on the interesting stuff of SDI type devices, I sure hope you aren’t hoping for temporary disruption of CPUs. We can work around that in software, no problem. Disruption should be terminal for the devices involved if my taxpayer money is being thrown at the problem.

The shape of the Viking & Curiosity entry configurations has everything to do with aerodynamics and nothing to do with anything allegedly learned from any alien spacecraft allegedly recovered at Roswell.

"But, just 24 hours later, the military retracted their earlier statement and claimed the object they had first thought was a 'flying disc' was a weather balloon that had crashed on a nearby ranch."

That's because the "UFO" debris found actually was the remnant of a crashed device called a "corner reflector" that was being used to detect, at long-range, Soviet nuclear blasts, and that project was probably secret enough to warrant intervention, story-wise on the part of the government.

I used to do electronics warfare for a living, and am quite confident the wreckage shown in this photo

is easily identified as most likely what's left of such a construct.

Here's a picture of one that's intact:

They are used to capture and focus faint radio signals into a stronger signal. In order to carry one aloft that was large enough to be very sensitive and yet light enough to be borne there by a weather balloon, it needed to be constructed out of light materials, like say aluminum foil or mylar hung on a balsam wood frame, which appears to be the very thing shown in the first photo.

May 8, 1950-This is one of the most famous UFO pictures ever taken. Photographed by Paul Trent, and first witnessed by his wife. They were published in a local newspaper in McMinnville, Oregon. Shortly thereafter, the Trent photos were published in Life magazine edition of June 26, 1950. The rest is history. (NOTE: These photos have been deemed authentic for over 50 years.The analysis of the McMinnville photos by Dr.Bruce Maccabee PhD, can be found athttp://brumac.8k.com/trent1.html )

Those interested in the uap/ufo ping list, please Freepmail LasVegasDave (freepmail works best) if you would like your name added to the list. ( Approximately 200+ freepers are currently on the ping list ).

Yep, that's the one. The "Quix's Latest Opus Installment" would seem at first blush to suggest the remote possibility of a return, but the fact that the thread was started by The Man Himself and referenced the FLeebagger site tells me

that well, let's just say it doesn't look good at all.

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posted on 08/08/2012 3:05:35 AM PDT
by Flotsam_Jetsome
(If America were a car, the "Check President" light would be on.)

This idiot is delusional. Whatever else may be true there were NO particle beam or directed energy weapons in 1947.

This is the same era, (WWII and post WWII), that the story of the “Philadelphia Experiment” came out of. I think it was the destroyer escort Eldrige (sp) was the vessel. In any case the government was spending a lot of money on “kooky” ideas, like the Atomic Bomb.

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