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(Check out my website, www.seriesmonitor.com)It's been a tough last few weeks for ABC's Sunday night duo, Once Upon a Time and RevengeThe ratings for Sunday's episodes of both shows once again weren't too flash. Once Upon A Time at 8pm earned a series low 2.2 18-49 rating, and 7.08 million viewers, while Revenge at 9pm Also earned a series low 1.4 18-49 rating and just 5.20 million viewersUnfortunately, the odds were firmly stacked against both shows, with Sunday also being the night the annual Grammy Awards aired on CBS, hauling in a significant chunk of the 18-49 demographic, with a 10.1 rating and 28.37 million viewers. In addition, both shows were returning from a 3 week hiatus - the last original episodes for both shows aired on January 20. On that night, both shows posted series low numbers as well. Once Upon a Time earned a 2.4 rating and 7.68 million viewers, while Revenge earned a 1.7 rating and 5.75 million viewers. Again, CBS spoiled the party, with a NFL playoff game earning a whopping 16.8 rating and 47.71 million viewersA week earlier on January 13, Once Upon a Time earned a 2.8 rating ad 8.24 million viewers, while Revenge earned a 2.0 rating and 6.17 million viewers. At the time, the ratings numbers for both shows were bordering series lows, while the audience numbers were indeed series lows. Once again, there was a dominating show on another network - this time it was NBC - who were airing the Golden Globe Awards, which earned a 6.4 rating and 19.69 million viewersIt's fair enough to say that both shows have been up against unbeatable competition in their timeslots for the last 3 weeks, but this excuse only goes so far. This is because both Once Upon a Time and Revenge have continued their downward ratings slide on viewers' DVRs in addition to live viewing. Lets take a look at Once Upon A Time's Live + 7 DVR ratings and audience graphs for a closer look. The red line is Once Upon a Time's Live + Same Day (L+SD) rating/audience, and the green line is the Live + 7 (L+7) ratings/audience

For the 12 episodes that L+7 data is available for, an average of 2.958 million people timeshift Once Upon a Time on a DVR in the week following an episode. The 18-49 rating increases by an average of 1.35 ratings points. Looking at the graphs above, you can see that the drop in L+SD ratings and audiences is almost identical. This goes some way to proving that despite the tough scheduling Once Upon a Time faces, the ratings and audience are still dropping. If the show had a loyal audience who would DVR the show while watching something else, then you'd expect to see the green lines on both graphs level off while the red line continued downwards. This would give you a reasonably precise number of dedicated fans who would watch the show regardless of what else was on that nightFor the 13 episodes to date, Once Upon a Time is averaging a 3.07 L+SD rating and 9.18 million L+SD viewers. L+7 ratings increase those numbers to a 4.49 rating and 12.310 million viewers from the 12 episodes L+7 data is available for. Last season saw Once Upon a Time averaging a 3.28 L+SD rating and 9.90 million viewers. I'm yet to gather L+7 data for last season. You can check out all the L+SD and L+7 data and graphs for season 2 of Once Upon a Timehere on my websiteNow let's take a look at Revenge's graphs for this season. As with Once Upon a Time, the red line is Revenge's Live + Same Day (L+SD) rating/audience, and the green line is the Live + 7 (L+7) ratings/audience. The blue line is Once Upon a Time's ratings/audience

The last 3 episodes have dropped a total of 1 L+SD ratings point since the last time there was a ratings increase. A little more than 2.5 million L+SD viewers have been lost, again since the last time there was an audience increase. As I said earlier about Once Upon a Time, if there was a loyal audience who would DVR Revenge while watching the football or the Grammys, then you'd expect to see the green line level off while the red line continues downward. That clearly hasn't happened yet, with the green line maintaining a steady rate of descent throughout the duration of this seasonRevenge is averaging a 2.40 L+SD rating, and 7.52 million L+SD viewers this season. For the 12 episodes data is available for, DVR viewing pushes the L+7 rating to 3.68, and the L+7 audience to 9.18 million. This is an average increase in ratings of 1.21, and 2.925 million viewers - figures that are pretty similar to Revenge's lead-in, Once Upon a Time, despite Revenge's lower viewership. Last season, in its different day and timeslot, Revenge was averaging a 2.46 L+SD rating and 7.82 million L+SD viewers, figures that - until this recent spate of series low numbers this season - were lower than this season's current averages I stated earlierYou can check out all the L+SD and L+7 data and graphs for season 2 of Revengehere on my website. The season comparison graphs on this page are also well worth a lookAll in all, I think both Once Upon a Time and Revenge are doing well enough on averages to earn their third seasons from the ABC top brass, but it would throw a lot more doubt into the air if both shows earned further series lows next week. If Once Upon A Time earned a 2.0 rating next week, the average rating for the season would drop to 2.99 - down from 3.07. If Revenge saw a repeat of Sunday's 1.4 rating, its ratings average for the season would drop to 2.33 - down from 2.40. I'm sure no fans of either show would like to see that happenWhat are your thoughts? What reasons do you think are impacting the ratings of Once Upon a Time and Revenge?? What's your solution to resolving the loss in viewers??Have your say in the comments belowThanks for reading. Check out my website, www.seriesmonitor.com for comprehensive ratings and analysis of many more showsJimmy

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