Reding warns data protection could derail US trade talks

Justice Commissioner Viviane Reding yesterday (29 October) issued a stark warning that data protection should be kept off the agenda of the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP). But EURACTIV understands that US pressure is mounting to keep the debate open on data issues.

“There are challenges to get it [the TTIP] done and there are issues that will easily derail it. One such issue is data and the protection of personal data,” Reding told an event jointly arranged by Johns Hopkins University's School for Advanced International Studies (SAIS), and the EU’s Washington DC mission.

“I warn against bringing data protection to the trade talks. Data protection is not red tape or a tariff. It is a fundamental right and as such it is not negotiable,” she added.

Data protection not up for negotiation

Reding has always insisted that data protection issues have been cut out of the TTIP as a result of “a political decision by the US and EU”.

“Data protection is a fundamental right. It is different in nature to the tariff of a good or to the schedule of a service. That’s why a discussion on standards of data protection should be kept separate from the give and take of a trade negotiation,” the justice commissioner explained recently (17 September).

In her Washington speech, Reding added that Europe would expect similar rules to be introduced by the US once the EU’s data protection regulation was in place, castigating what she described as the US “self-regulation” approach.

“Once a single, coherent set of rules is in place in Europe, we will expect the same from the US. Inter-operability and a system of self-regulation is not enough,” Reding said.

US companies concerned about new data protection rules

She said that the inclusion in the forthcoming US Privacy Act of a legal provision on judicial redress for EU citizens, regardless of their residence, would be “an essential step towards restoring trust among partners”.

Various clauses within the proposed regulation would impact on the larger US companies offering so-called “over-the-top” data services, such as Google and Amazon, and more significantly the burgeoning cloud computing sector.

US-based cloud service providers – including Google, Amazon and Microsoft – currently account for around 85% of global markets.

However EU and US technology industries doubt that data protection – which encompasses data flows across the Atlantic critical to cloud providers – can truly be kept off the agenda.

Intense lobbying in the US

EURACTIV understands that US tech company representatives within the President’s Export Council (PEC) – an influential industry group which advises the US government – expressed disquiet with the TTIP data protection veto at a White House meeting held in September attended by US Trade Representative Michael Froman.

Froman has never publicly said that data protection should be off the agenda, whilst a senior US government official told EURACTIV on condition of anonymity that the issue of trade flows would need to be dealt with in the talks.

The Commission acknowledges that this is one of the reasons it is so keen to push for the data protection regulation to be introduced by next spring.

“Attempts to delay the data protection regulation will play into the hands of those who would like to see these issues dealt with in the TTIP, that is why Reding is being clear on the matter,” an EU source told EURACTIV.

Another factor likely to embolden industry is the parallel trade negotiations taking place between the US and Asian partners – including Japan, Malaysia and Vietnam – to create a so-called Trans–Pacific Partnership (TPP).

Separate US trade deal with Asia could apply pressure

Froman has indicated that progress on the TPP will advance more swiftly than the TTIP, since the process was begun many months before.

Data flows are high up on the agenda of the TPP, which will leave US and European industry with an expectation that the issue will be handled within the TTIP too, according to analysts.

“[The US Trade Representative] USTR has been very active in pushing for data flows within the TPP and as far as we know its high on their agenda for TTIP too,” David Ohrenstein, the director of global trade policy with BSA, the global group representing the software industry.

“It’s important to ensure data can flow across borders unimpeded. This is critical for companies offering and using digital products and services and for global enterprises managing their international operations,” Ohrenstein added.

Positions

According to John Boswell, a senior vice president with business analytics and software company SAS, data is the new ‘oil’ and data analytics are essential to business, job growth, innovation, prosperity and will lead to the creation of millions of jobs in the future.

“Core to this objective, are data-friendly policies that encourage the use, free-flow and analysis of data, facilitate the location of companies in Europe that focus on data-driven innovation and build the necessary framework of trust for European citizens who will ultimately benefit from the deluge of data and its analysis,” said Boswell.

"The movement of data is central to how business is done in the 21st century. That's why it needs to be a part of the TTIP discussion from the outset. If negotiators fail to address this reality of the modern economy, not only will it be a huge missed opportunity, but it will also render the agreement meaningless to the very many companies who depend on transatlantic data flows on a daily basis," said Liam Benham, Vice President, Governmental Programs, Europe at IBM.

Background

Negotiations between the US and the EU on the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) commenced in July this year.

If successful, the deal would cover more than 40% of global GDP and account for large shares of world trade and foreign direct investment. The EU-US trade relationship is already the biggest in the world. Traded goods and services are worth €2 billion.

The agreement, the biggest bilateral trade deal ever negotiated, could result in millions of euros of savings to companies and create hundreds of thousands of jobs. It is expected that every year an average European household would gain an extra €545 and our economy would be boosted by around 0.5% of GDP, once the deal was fully implemented.

Brussels and Washington have set the ambitious goal of completing negotiations by the end of 2014.

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We know that America wants a Free Trade Deal with the European Union, and we know that Spain has a Veto on this, and we also know that England has not as yet returned the Spanish Territory of Gibraltar to its Rightful Owner, which is the European Country of Spain.

I’m so sick of the EU and all its representative !!!
Redding should shut up , she’s a total pain in the arse . The EU is in such a muddle and state of confusion , it doesn’t know where it’s going or what to do next .

I was under the Understanding that the European Union worked on Consensus based on European Values, and so I merely Stated that each European Union Country has a Veto, and we know that those Countries know this.

There are People who think that England will not do the Right Thing unless Pressure is Applied on England, and they think this belongs of England’s Century Long History of Dealings.

I want to say that there are Many Europeans who would like England to the Right Thing towards Europe, and towards the European Union, and England has been Asked Nicely on Numerous Occasions to do the Right Thing and Return the Stolen Gibraltar to its Rightful Owners, which is European Union Country of Spain.

The News Article says that there are issues (plural) that will easily derail the trade deal, and it goes on to say that one such issue is data and the protection of personal data.

What is means is that there must be at least one issue that will easily derail the trade deal, and the wording allows for more than one other issue other than the one of the Protection of Personal Data.

We know that there are 28 Countries in the European Union, and us Ordinary People cannot know what all those Countries are Thinking, but they Know that if they cannot Receive what is Fair, Just, and Proper with Pressure, then they will not receive what is Fair, Just, and Proper without Pressure.

We know that Spain has Recently Once Again Asked England Nicely to Return the Stolen Property of Gibraltar, which was Stolen Under the English Empire Mafia Blackmail of Duress, and is Therefore Under International Law, it is Illegal for England to keep Spain’s Territory of Gibraltar, and this Website wrote a News Item Titled: EU to send fact-finding mission to Gibraltar, and I was one of several to Contribute to the Public Debate on this unresolved matter at http://www.euractiv.com/uk-europe/eu-send-fact-finding-mission-gib-news-529865 .

There is Genuine Public Concern by some European Union Countries of how the European Principles of Democracy are being Flagrantly Ignored by America, and England.

We can see the Total Lack of Democracy in Europe because of the leadership of England and America, with the proposed Elections in Serbia’s Province of Kosovo.

We have seen Overwhelming Evidence that England and America were the ones who were Responsible for stating WW 2, an England and America should Apologize Publically and Sufficiently Loudly Enough to Continental Europe, if they Consider Europe to be their Friend and Partner, and Actions will Always Speak LOUDER Than words.

There could some European Countries who think that this can Only be Proved by Full Independence of Scotland, rather than Independence Lite to show Continental Europe and the Rest of the World that the English and the Scots are Not Playing the Master Race on Europe and the Rest of the World, and I Contributed to the Democratic Public Debate with a few comments on this Website using the Moniker of Journalist at the News Article Titled: France brings US eavesdropping to EU summit table at http://www.euractiv.com/innovation-enterprise/new-revelations-nsa-surveillance-news-531195 .

Years before WW 2 started, and over a year before Germany annexed Austria, and over 2 years before Germany annexed Sudetenland; Winston Churchill said Germany is too strong, and that we (England and America) must Destroy Germany, and so even before Hitler had done anything wrong to any Country, England and America were determined to begin WW 2 in Europe.

The War Criminal Sir Winston Churchill Confessed to Anglo-America Deliberately Scheming and beginning WW 2 in March of 1946 and he said: “The war was not just a matter of the elimination of Fascism in Germany, but rather of obtaining German sales markets.”

We can see the Type of Democracy, which is the Total Lack of Democracy of England and America, with the proposed Elections in Serbia’s Province of Kosovo.

It has been over 14 years since Euro-America Committed their War Crimes, and this Pigs Swill of Democracy is the Best that England and America are willing to Serve Up to show their Supposed Democratic Credentials.

It is ILLEGAL in the European Union to Serve Up Pig Swill to Pigs, and yet England and America are happy to Serve Up this Pig Swill of an Election for the Non Albanians of Kosovo, and even for the Honest Kosovo Albanians, who will Vote for the Serb List, because they Know that Kosovo is Part of the European Country of Serbia.

The Indispensable Democratic Rule of Law for this Agreed to Status Neutral Election, Emphatically States, that Serbia’s Province of Kosovo belongs to the European Country of Serbia.

One of the Indispensable Features of a Democracy is the Rule of Law, and yet the Albanians with the Approval of Dictatorial England and Dictatorial America want to conduct these Elections by means of an Illegal Self Declared State of Kosovo.

Even though Serbia’s Province of Kosovo is not a Country, the Albanian Leaders of Kosovo have with the Approval of England and America put the Coat of Arms of the Nonexistent Republic of Kosovo on Election Material.

This thing should Never had been a Issue if the Election was going to be Democratic, and Certainly should not be the Subject of Negotiations a few days before the Proposed Election, but These Many Illegal and Undemocratic Practices should have been Resolved before the Election was even Contemplated.

This will Cause Non Albanians People to boycott this Election, and Democracies are supposed to actually Create the Proper and Legal Circumstance for People to Vote, and do their Utmost to make everyone who wants to Vote, to be able to Participate in an Election.

Nazi England and Nazi America Falsely said that they Illegally and Immorally attacked Serbia and Invaded Serbia’s Province of Kosovo to bring Democracy to that Region.

England and America only go somewhere to make those People Nazis or even Worse Nazis than what they Themselves are, and Many People think that these Elections should be Postponed for as Long as is Needed until the Proper Democratic Circumstances are there, and People can follow these events at http://www.b92.net/eng/news/headlines.php?order=priority .

I realized that I used the word stating in a sentence; whereas I meant to write Starting, and the next sentence is how I wanted to write that sentence.

We have seen Overwhelming Evidence that England and America were the ones who were Responsible for Starting WW 2, and England and America should Apologize Publically and Sufficiently Loudly Enough to Continental Europe, if they Consider Europe to be their Friend and Partner, and Actions will Always Speak LOUDER Than words.

We have seen some of this Pigs’ Swill of Democracy, and this is Confirmed by the European Union’s Foreign Policy Chief Catherine Ashton, and 3 days before this Proposed Kosovo Election, this Englishwoman said that Serbian Prime Minister Ivica Dacic and the Prime Minister of the Kosovo Albanians Hashim Thaci need to address remaining Challenges at http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2013&mm=10&dd=31&nav_id=88194 .

The Fact that she Used the word CHALLENGES, which is Plural, confirms the Things that Honest and Democratic People has been saying.

Krstimir Pantic is a Mayoral Candidate of the Civil Initiative Srpska, the only one of 33 Serb Electoral Lists in the Kosovo Elections backed by the Serbian Government.

There are 33 Serb Lists, with Only 1 Approved by the Serbian Government as the Only one that is Not Collaborating with the Undemocratic Albanians.

This Terrorism and Other Intimidations is done to Intimidate Non Albanian Prospective Voters not to Vote, or to Vote for the Vichy Ethnic Serbs, who Exactly Like the Vichy French were Pressured by Circumstances to be Nazi Collaborators.

This is Human Weakness, and we all know that some Jews Collaborated with the Nazis in the Concentration Camps and Worked the Gas Ovens and performed other grim activities for the Germans on other Jews during the Holocaust, in order to save their lives at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vichy_France .

The Albanians and the European Union Rule of Law Mission in Kosovo or EULEX know that All Non Albanians who attend a Polling Booth will be Recorded, and if they Voted for Non Nazi Candidates, then there will be Retaliations, and the Nazi Euro-America and the Nazi Euro-American Journalists know all of this, and will their UTMOST to LIE and COVER UP at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Rule_of_Law_Mission_in_Kosovo .

The Western Journalists Lie for Money, and we Only have to look at how Britain and America with the help of Most of their Journalists Maliciously Slandered Slobodan Milosevic and others, even to this day, which is Decades Later after their War Crimes of Physical, Cultural, and Economic Genocide of the Innocent Serbian People.

These Facts are also Stated by an American Journalist at http://www.michaelparenti.org/Milosevic.html , who said: “There is no better example of this than the tireless demonization of democratically-elected President Slobodan Milosevic and the U.S.-supported wars against Yugoslavia.”

An English Journalist at http://www.newstatesman.com/node/144322 , said: “Slobodan Milosevic. What are the first images that come to your mind on hearing this name? Burning villages? Detention camps? Mass graves? If so, you are yet another victim of one of the most brilliant and successful demonisation campaigns of modern times, a campaign continued by Adam LeBor in his new biography of the former Yugoslav leader.”

All Western Journalists know these Facts, but we rarely hear from the Few Honest ones among them, because these are mainly Marginalized or Censored by England and America and their Unprincipled Puppets.

However, Nazi England and Nazi America are More than Overjoyed to Serve Up this Pigs’ Swill of an Election for the Non Albanians of Kosovo, and even for the Very Few Honest Kosovo Albanians, who will Vote for the 1 Serb List that is Approved by the Serbia Government, which is called Civil Initiative Srpska because it is a Non Nazi Group, because they Know that Kosovo is Part of the European Country of Serbia.

I think Journalist, who clearly isn’t a journalist is just pushing his communist ideas, he keeps refering to England as if it is the only country in the United Kingdom that matters. He also refers to a sovereign nation as if it is a part of another nation so he can cut and paste this load of rubbish over and over which is what he does without anyone ever bothering to pay any attention to him. He is actually a microcosm of what is wrong with the eussr.

We will need to wait for More Information on this Illegal and Undemocratic Election in Kosovo, and wait for Political Analysts to provide their Analysis; however, Some Things are Already Know, and they Influenced the Events before, during, and after this Illegal and Undemocratic Sham Election in Kosovo.

The Kosovo Election was Undemocratic for the Reasons that I have Already Mentioned in my other comments, especially because Serbia’s Province of Kosovo is not a Country, yet the Albanian Leaders of Kosovo have with the Approval of England and America have put the Coat of Arms of the Nonexistent Republic of Kosovo on Election Material.

The Indispensible Features of a Democracy is to Promote Legality, and not Criminality, along with no Dirty Tricks that Cause People to Boycott the Election, and no Election Fraud or Rigging at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fraud .

We can be sure that Euro-America and the Kosovo Albanians used all of its Illegalities and Dirty Tricks, along with Secret CIA Agents from the Local Ethnicities to commit Electoral Fraud on a Grand Scale in Kosovo.

We know this to be True, because it was discovered a few days before the Elections that Euro-America and was going to Change the Illegalities on the Election Materials.

The Candidate in Northern Kosovska Mitrovica from the Citizens’ Initiative Srpska list said that he expects Euro-America will exert pressure on Pristina 2 days before the November 3 local elections to remove the Symbols representing Kosovo as a Republic from Election Materials, because they knew that Voters would Boycott the Election because of this at http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2013&mm=10&dd=28&nav_id=88138 .

The Fact that these Euro-American Dirty Trickster may have Changed this at the last minute, to make it look Legal and Democratic, is of No Consequence to those to Uphold Democracy and the Rule of Law, because the Damage was Already in the Minds of Voters, and they Decided to Boycott this Pigs’ Swill of Democracy, which is Standard Practice in Much of Euro-America.

This is because they did not know if the Election Materials would be Changed Once again, because they know that Euro-America LIE and CHEAT, They LIE and CHEAT, and when they have Done All That, They Continue to LIE and CHEAT.

I believe that that Opinion Poll was Fabricated to make it look larger than Reality, and the Evidence for this is the North Kosovo referendum, 2012, which showed that 99.74 % of Voters in North Kosovo who Voted NO to the Referendum Question of Do you accept the institutions of the so-called Republic of Kosovo at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Kosovo_referendum,_2012 .

This is why Everyone will Know that the Election Result was Rigged, and Even Though the Civil Initiative Srpska ticket declared victory in all six Serb-majority municipalities south of the Ibar River, it does not mean that enough People Voted in North Kosovo to make the Result Legitimate, because the Overwhelming Majority of People in North Kosovo

Democracies are supposed to actually Create the PROPER and the LEGAL Circumstance for People to Vote, and do their Utmost to make everyone who wants to Vote, to be able to Participate in an Election, and Euro-America did not do this, and they are Lying, they are Blaming the Victim, and Covering Up as Usual at http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2013&mm=11&dd=04&nav_id=88223 .

There are Many People who think that Euro-America is Too Dishonorable to call for Fresh Election in North Kosovo, because they will be Admitting that they are Not Democracies who do Utmost to make everyone who wants to Vote, and to be able to Participate in an Election.

Joseph Stalin said that it does not matter who Votes, because what matters is who Counts the Votes, and how they are Counted, and Euro-America Appreciate and Practice his Dictatorial Advice.

There are People who think that the Serbs in North Kosovo should Repeat the Referendum they had in 2012 to show that Democracies should Not Conduct Matters Illegally, but they should follow the RULE of LAW, along with other Democratic Principles.

The idea is that you post things relevant to the article not just random junk Journalist, are you really barosso by any chance he is totally undemocratic as he has never been elected by anyone to his position.

I consider myself to be an amateur investigative journalist who goes looking for the News behind the News in order to contribute to the Public Debate.

Even if other Readers do not consider that I am an amateur investigative journalist who does extensive research as I link to Web Pages that I have Read and deliberated on, before writing Most of my comments.

These People should then just consider that I have my opinions, and that People are Entitled to their Opinions in a Democracy.

If they Claim to disagree with me, then they should Mention what they disagree with me on, and they should use the Opportunity to benefit their Fellow Human Beings by letting Others Marvel at their Self Proclaimed Great Learning and Great Wisdom.

We know that in a Democracy, there will Never 100 % agreement on Most Things, and so we should just agree to disagree without becoming disagreeable, which is Fitting in a Democracy.

I do not mind Debating, and I would remind any Unreasonable Critics, that if they use Unreasonable Methods, then Other People will consider that I am correct in what I wrote.

I wrote the first comment on this News Item, and it was a short comment, and then a Fellow Commenter wrote a Comment in Reply to me.

I gained the impression that Additional Information and Clarification was requested, and so I provided that Additional Information.

I know that are some People who say that England is not a Country, but is part of Britain.

I consider Britain to be a Euphemism for Greater England, it is Not Right to Blame Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland for Nazi Activities, because they cannot say No to what Nazi England Decrees, and Many People would like to think of them as Vichy Scotland, Vichy Wales, and Vichy Northern Ireland, and Less Responsible for Nazi Activity than what England is so Obviously is Guilty of.

Some Readers are Trying to Diminish the Decades Long Nazi Activities of England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland against the Innocent Serbian People.

Nazi Euro-America is Continuing in their Usual Tactics of Blaming the Innocent Serbian People in North Kosovo.

This is because any Criminal Always Claim to be Innocent, and Nazi Euro-America is the Guilty Criminal who are Expert at Dirty Tricks and Election Fraud.

Honesty is the Best Policy, and Honesty is what the Sham Kosovo Election should have been based on, but Dishonest Nazi Euro-America has no use for Honesty, and this is why we can be Certain that the Overwhelming Majority Non Albanians in North Kosovo, who are Democratic People have Boycotted this Pigs’ Swill of an Election, that is a Perfect Reflection of the Pigs’ Swill of Democracy in Much of Nazi Euro-America.

” I consider myself to be an amateur investigative journalist who goes looking for the News behind the News in order to contribute to the Public Debate. ”

You are not a journalist , investigative , amateur , or of any other kind .

You are welcomed to debate , but there is a specific subject , around which you are invited to comment or debate .

This opportunity to debate is not an invitation to
” Vomit “your entire disaffection with the western world , writing reams of inaccurate information and making accusations that are far from the truth .

I have mentioned on Several Occasions that I used the word Journalist as a Moniker, and so you have your opinions, and I have my research, which I believe Based Entirely on Facts, and you are Entitled to say that you disagree with Some Other People.

The Journalistic Code of Ethics states that Journalists who always write what is True, and that they should only give their Genuinely Held Opinions.

This is the reason I consider myself to be an amateur journalist, because I follow the Journalistic Code of Ethics, and therefore I Always only write Facts, and I only give my Genuinely Held Opinions.

I have Considered your Reasonable Request for a comment that is Pleasant, and one of pursuits is to read History.

There are Many People who ask the Question of How and Where did Human History begin, and How did Human come to be here on this Planet, and so I while this comment is for you, it is Also for Others, and you have my Permission to Share this Good News with Other People.

Today, there are over 7 billion People; in 1900 there were 1.5 billion People; in 1830 there were 1 billion People; in 1650 there were 500 million People; and at the time when Jesus was on earth there were 250 million People on the earth. We discover that the further back in time we go; that there were fewer and fewer People until the Global Flood of Noah’s Day, and logically there were fewer and fewer People the further we go back from the time of Noah’s Flood, and we do quickly come back to the first Man and the first Woman. After the Creation of the first man and the first woman on this planet, they would quickly multiply and their descendants would begin cutting down the tress, for habitation and farming, and they would turn the planet into a desert (Genesis 5: 1-5). The Fact that the planet is not an entirely a desert yet, proves that Humans have only been on Earth for a few thousand years, and that they could not have come from apes. Scientists have proven that every human has the DNA material called Y-chromosomal Adam, and this proves that all humans are descended from the same man, and Scientists have proven that every human has the DNA material called Mitochondrial Eve, and this proves that all humans are descended from the same woman. The evolutionists or naturalists always resort to deception and make up their own illogical and lying theories as to why this is, rather than Confessing that God Supernaturally Created Adam and Eve in the same Location on Earth, which was the Garden of Eden. A closely guarded secret of the Lying Evolutionists is that of the work of John Haldane, who was both an evolutionist and a mathematician, and he is famous for his discovery that we today know as Haldane’s Dilemma at http://unmaskingevolution.com/pdf_dl/oht/Haldane.PDF , with Much more Proof at http://www.unmaskingevolution.com/pdf_dl/book/resource.PDF , and http://evolutionfairytale.com/index.htm .

It proved to be a real dilemma to Haldane, because he proved mathematically that if genes could be replaced, then even under the most favourable circumstances it would take 50,000 billion years for apes to allegedly evolve into humans, but we know that genes cannot be replaced. Scientists say that the Universe is only 20 billion years old, and this proves conclusively that there has been nowhere near enough time for any alleged evolution from apes to humans to have occurred even if it was possible, and evolution from atoms to humans is impossible no matter how much time is involved. We know that the Invisible Gravity and that the Earth’s Invisible Magnetic Field definitely exist, even though we cannot see them. The Bible says that God is an invisible Spirit, and the good angels and bad angels are created spirit beings are also invisible to Humans (1 Timothy 1:17). The very first man could not have had a human father or a human mother, but only a Heavenly Father, who is the Creator, and the first woman, could not have had a human father or a human mother, but only a Heavenly Father, who is the Creator. the Bible tells us that Jesus is the Son of God, and Jesus called God, His Heavenly Father, and that Jesus had a human mother, but not a human father, because Jesus is God’s Son. The first man was not living before his was Created, and God made the first man to Live, and this is Proof of God’s Ability and Willingness to Keep His True Promise to bring the dead back to Life at His Own Appointed Time (John 5:24-29).

The Bible tells us that the first woman was made from the first man’s rib, and this proves that Jesus healed every type of sickness in Ancient Israel, because making Eve from a rib could be considered as the Ultimate Recorded Act of Healing (Matthew 4:23, 24). God Created the Universe, and so He did knock down the walls of Jericho, and He has control over the weather, and He has moulded and shaped the Earth as He wanted. God created the oceans, then this means that He parted the Red Sea, and that Jesus walked on water (Psalm 146:6). God has promised Everlasting Life to all those who Love Him and obey Him. The Bible is the true History of Origins of the Human Race, and the Bible is true understanding of present world conditions, and the True Prophesy of the Future. I believe that some evolutionists have been deceived because other Deceptive and Unprincipled evolutionists have deliberately fabricated what they present as evidence, and which has later been found to have been a deliberately fabricated fraud. Piltdown man is one of the many such shams, and some cosmologists Lie by saying that the Material Universe came from nothing, but something can only come from something else or from a Creator. The Universe contains energy and matter, which cannot come from nothing; then, either something must have always existed, or a Almighty Creator with Tremendous Energy must have always Existed. Things can never create themselves; therefore, this Proves, that it is the Creator has Always Existed.

The Creator could not be created, because the One who supposedly created Him would be the Creator; and, the Creator could not create Himself, because nothing can create itself. God certainly does Exit, and He could not have been created by anyone else, and God could not have created Himself; then logically, God must have always Existed, and the Bible tells us that God will Always Exist (Isaiah 43:10). God speaks Only Truth to humans, which is recorded in a Book, because in this way His servants at any time in Human History can know the same amount of Truth. Schools and Teachers give their Students the same book for each subject for good and proper reasons, if they Honest. However, Many Schools are Not Honest, because they put the Lies of Evolution in certain books. God’s Provision of the same amount of information to all of us with the Bible, it shows that God is Just and that He loves us All Equally, and Jesus said that Christians are not to be called Rabbi, because they All had to be brothers, and as such no extra information from God other than the Bible would be provided. Writing was the only way to record in those days, and the Bible allows us to Refresh our Memories, and the best way for our Creator to Communicate to all Humans through the ages is with Recorded Writing, and Historians record History with Writing.

God chose Faithful and Honest People to write down what God wanted Recorded for our Benefit and Salvation. The Bible tells us that the sinless Son of God, Jesus, paid the price for the sins for all Humans, and the Bible tells us because Jesus died sinless, then this means that Jesus our Redeemer did not need a redeemer, and therefore God raised Jesus up from the dead back to Life as an Act of His Justice. This is because God’s Law states that sin is the only Penalty for death, and Jesus never sinned, and therefore God did not allow this unjust situation to continue, and this is why God raised Jesus up from death to Everlasting Life (1 Peter 2:22; Revelation 1:18). According to the Bible, Jesus is mankind’s only Redeemer, and Jesus is now Living Forever in Heaven, and People who have died will come back to everlasting life (Mark 10:45; Romans 6:23). The Bible says that those People who Love and Obey our Creator, and who believe the Bible, and who have faith in God’s Son Jesus Christ, will Live Forever.

“I am the LORD, the God of all mankind. Is anything too hard for me?” (Jeremiah 32:27).

It would appear that the self styled journalist is just going to spew out this BS to destroy any form of open debate on all the threads on this forum. Nothing he has posted has any relevance to this story it just blocks off people who would otherwise comment. I can only assue it is redding herself as she is not a democratically elected politician.

This comment is Completely Relevant to this News Article, as we know that the News Article is Titled: Reding warns data protection could derail US trade talks, and I have a differing opinion that what has been stated by Others, and I was assured that I was Entitled to my own opinion in a Democracy.

I looked at Wikipedia to do some research, because I Always to Check for myself, in order to be sure.

Wikipedia says: Viviane Reding is a Luxembourg politician, currently serving as European Commissioner for Justice, Fundamental Rights and Citizenship. Before starting a professional career as a journalist for the leading newspaper in Luxembourg, the Luxemburger Wort, she obtained a doctorate in human sciences at the Sorbonne. From 1986 to 1998, she was President of the Luxembourg Union of Journalists. On 27 November 2009, she was upgraded in the “Barroso II Commission” to Vice-President responsible for Justice, Fundamental Rights and Citizenship. She is affiliated with the European People’s Party at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viviane_Reding .

We can see that Viviane Reding is in Fact a Democratically Elected Member of Parliament, and a Qualified Journalist.

I have written many comments on this Website, and if I were a European Union Official, then I would have an Assistant write my comments with better grammar, and I am just an ordinary person who likes to think of himself as an amateur investigative journalist who goes looking for the News behind the News in order to contribute to the Public Debate.

Politicians are Elected, and Officials are Appointed because of their Qualifications, and the Greatest Qualification a European Union Human Rights Commissioner can have is to Genuinely Care for People, and she Proved this by standing up for the Roma People who were being Persecuted in France.

Wikipedia says: Jose Manuel Barroso is the 11th and current President of the European Commission and a Portuguese politician, who served as Prime Minister of Portugal.

The President of the European Commission is in Fact Elected by a Majority of the European Parliament.

Wikipedia says that the Democratically Elected President of the European Commission graduated in Law from the Faculty of Law of the University of Lisbon and has an MSc in Economic and Social Sciences from the University of Geneva in Switzerland. His academic career continued as an Assistant Professor in the Faculty of Law of the University of Lisbon, and he has Many Honours, and Honorary Degrees.

I Hope you Believe me, when I say that it gave me no pleasure to say what I did about Euro-America, and I Only said it, because it is True, and I Hope that Euro-America does the Right Thing and Restores the Fine Reputation of the Innocent Serbian People by Setting the Record Straight.

Euro-America will be what we All Sincerely Know that they Truly Are with Regards to the Innocent Serbian People, up until they Set the Record Straight as Regards the Innocent Serbian People, and Pay some modest compensation for the Decade of Physical, Cultural, and Economic Genocide of the Innocent Serbian People.

We have seen how an English Journalist, and an American Journalist do not have the My Country Right or Wrong Mentality, and this is because they follow the Journalistic Code of Ethics of Only writing Facts, and of Only giving their Genuinely Held Opinions.

Redding is perfectly right , Data protection could derail trade talks . So , the EU has to give way to every demand of the overbearing US . The EU has to stand up for what it believes right . The US too is keen to have free trade with the EU ; but they must not be allowed to trample under foot the rights of all other countries . Today in governmental sense , the US is not your friend and is its own worst enemy .

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If you were an EU official , they wouldn’t allow you to write such demented diatribes on this website !
As it is I don’t know why you bother , who do you suppose reads the reams of drivel you write ?

Journalist you are correct you are entitled to an opinion in a democracy, however your diatribes are not relevant to the item that has been posted. You are entitled to your views on religion but not to post them as if they have any relevance, to a trade agreement with the US, particularly as we are all to aware eve was not made out of Adams rib which you claim to be a fact.

Redding is an eussr commissioner, not an elected mep, the only body in the eussr where you are semi democratically elected.

I have been accused of several things, and I do not claim to be a perfect person.

I believe that if People were accused of something, then they would think that it was Only Just to be allowed to make a sufficient defence against False Accusations, even in a ‘Democracy’.

I have been Falsely Accused of having disaffection with the entire western world, of writing inaccurate information, and making accusations that are far from the truth.

The Clever and Deceptive Anglo-American Puppet Main Stream Media has made this Phase of a Person having disaffection with the entire western world, as their way of Maliciously Slandering People who are in Fact Not disaffected with the entire western world, but who see the Evil that the Nazi English Government does, and the Evil the Nazi American Government does.

This Malicious Slander by the Anglo-American Puppet Main Stream Media is Intended to make Honest and Decent People look like they are Totally Unreasonable, and it is their way of subliminally saying Always Overlook Lies and Always Overlook Evil, but those who are Knowledgeable know what this says about the Anglo-American Puppet Main Stream Media.

A person was not convinced that I am an amateur investigative journalist, and that one of my pursuits is to read History.

Furthermore, I realized that I had written Truth regarding England or Britain and the rest of Euro-America, and some Readers who appear to be of English Ethnicity or of British Ethnicity if that is how they consider themselves, did not like Truth, even if British or American Professional Journalists would inform them of these Facts.

It is Regrettable that Some of the More Gullible Ordinary People have been Deceived into thinking that word the Diatribe is something bad, and it is the Anglo-American Puppet Main Stream Media’s way of subliminally saying Always Overlook Lies and Always Overlook Evil, but those who are Knowledgeable know what this says about the Anglo-American Puppet Main Stream Media.

The Cunning and the Deceptive Anglo-American Main Stream Media have Invented the word diatribe as if it is something bad, to be against what is wrong, because they Could Not have Invented the words Evilphobia, or Evilphobe, or Liephobia, or Liephobe, because then even the STUPID would UNDERSTAND, and they would have CONVICTED THEMSELVES.

As for the Accusations of writing inaccurate information, and making accusations that are far from the truth, then each Person can Judge for Themselves.

We know that if a Person points their finger at someone, then there are 3 fingers pointing back at them.

This does not mean that there are not True Accusations, but it does mean that the average Person in Euro-America should only believe approximately 50 % of what they see, hear, and read each year, if they wish to be WISE.

I try my best to write Only Facts, and if you look at my writing, it is based on the work or words of Others.

As you know, some News Items are saying what Some Politicians have said, and we know that there could be Suggestions that Some Politicians Might at times Think of Speaking a few Lies, and if I give an Opinion or provide an Analysis, then it should be understood that Some Politicians and some Media play games and they also Lie.

We All know that Technology is advancing, and that Everyone would like to be Vaccinated against Genetically Engineered Lethal Viruses, and Anglo-America is the Most Advanced in this Technology, and this is why European Politicians are their Puppets.

These Genetically Engineered Lethal Viruses can kill 99 % of the People of the World in less than a week, and Most Politicians are in Politics for Themselves.

I made References to WW 2, and I gave my Genuinely Held Opinion that it was England and America who were Responsible to beginning WW 2, and whether I am a ‘Hard Line’ Serb, or a Western Puppet Serb, makes no difference in a Certain Regard, because I lost 2 grandparents in that War.

I know that the British People blame Hitler for that War, and People died in Britain because of that War, and I did not want to ask you if lost any Relatives in that War, but I wanted to provide what I consider Sufficient Proof for some People that the dead will come back to life.

I do not claim that if my Creation Document does not Convince you, then Nothing will, but I recommend that you do Additional Research to Verify these Facts.

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If you do do research , you then misinterpret to your own warped thinking . You are not presenting history here and what you write at such length is unreadable nonsense , not fair comment of a sane man .

It appears that you Perceive that I have done something wrong, and therefore I do Apologize for anything for which I should; However, I do Not apologize for any of my Beliefs, for any of my Analyses, or my Opinions.

I have already said that I am not a perfect person, and I am willing to Change my Beliefs, my Analyses, or my Opinions, but Only if I can be convinced of that with proper evidence, and I hope you accept that we are all imperfect in different ways, and so we need to consider the Message, rather than the messenger.

“(Indeed, there is not a righteous man on earth who continually does good and who never sins” (Ecclesiastes 7:20).

We were both Taught the British and American Version of History of WW 2, and just because I have a different View on some Aspects of WW 2, then this Will Never Affect what British Christians, or Christians of Any Ethnicity Believe about the Bible, because they Know that the Bible is God’s Word of Truth.

“What if some were unfaithful? Will their unfaithfulness nullify God’s faithfulness? Not at all! Let God be true, and every human being a liar. As it is written: So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge (Romans 3:3, 4).

Christians Believe that the Bible is God’s Revealed Truth, and that it is True, Regardless of who Quotes it, or what other Opinions those People who quote the Bible have.

As we know, Christians can have different opinions about the 20th Century, but they All Agree that the Bible is True.

Time will Reveal the Answer to Questions, because God Knows the Answers to Everything, and People will know the Answers to their Questions in the Future, and they know what type of World it is.

“Moreover, I saw under the sun that in the place of justice, even there was wickedness, and in the place of righteousness, even there was wickedness” (Ecclesiastes 3:16).

“Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account” (Hebrews 4:13).

If we look at the sub atomic particle products of this Supposed big bang opinion, then we will see that the sub atomic particles are Identical in their groupings, just like Coins are Identical in their groupings.

For example, all electrons in the universe are all the same size, the same weight, and the same electrical charge.

If someone exploded a big piece of metal, the products would Never be identical objects in Different Categories like Coins, but there would be metal fragments of different size, weight, and shape.

The electrical charge of Every electron in the Universe is equal and opposite the electrical charge of Every proton in the Universe, and electrons follow a perfect Mathematical Formula in their arrangement in the Atom, and the number of electrons and the number of protons have to be Identical for the Material Universe to exist in its current form, and so we Know that is Obvious that matter was Deliberately Created by God at http://www.leaderu.com/science/ross-justright.html .

We know that matter is a form of Energy, and that the matter was made from Energy that is INVISIBLE, because All Sensible Scientists say that the Material Universe has a beginning, but Only the Honest Scientists say that God Created the Material Universe (Genesis 1:1).

Wikipedia says: Dark matter cannot be seen directly with telescopes; evidently it neither emits nor absorbs light or other electromagnetic radiation at any significant level.

The Lying and Deceptive Scientists do Not want to use the word INVISIBLE, because they Know that God is Invisible (1 Timothy 1:17).

They know that this Dark Energy and Dark Matter cannot be seen, and they are Invisible like Gravity and the Earth’s Magnetic Field.

If they used the Correct term of Invisible Energy, then People would think of God, because God is Invisible to Humans.

They do not want Promote Consciousness on the Invisible, like Gravity and the Earth’s Magnetic Field, because the Invisible forces of Darkness who are Satan the Devil and the other rebel angels are Invisible.

The following Scripture show us that Saint Paul received from God Knowledge of something that can only be Verified by Honest Scientists.

“By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible” (Hebrews 11:3).

Yes Friends, these Facts of Creation are Truly Amazing Facts to Many, and they are Facts that Affect us All.

I hope that I have Satisfactorily Answered your Questions, and if I have unable to, then you may Consider doing your own Research on the Fact of Creation.

It is better to ask these Questions to someone who shares your Views of the History of WW 2, because I perceive that there might regrettably be too much bias against hearing these things from me, and if we disagree on anything, then we should agree to disagree without becoming disagreeable, because this is Fitting in a Democracy.

Journalist you just write tripe about matters that have nothing to do with the subject area, it has nothing to do with disliking you. What for example does anything in the bible have to do with an unelected failed politician talking about data protection? If you keep to the subject instead of going off on to things that you want to say that have nothing to do with the string thereby stopping people posting because of the length of you mianderings people might actually read what you have to say.

I think there is a simple question at the heart of all this: do citizens have rights or not? If yes, the EU should apply its laws and not give in to the usual US blackmail. It should even go further and cancel the excuse called Safe Harbour because it isn’t safe at all, and has an inherent conflict of interest: if a US company has to choose between not certifying because it has issues or making a profit, I really don’t think anyone in the world is so naïve to expect the US company to own up to deficiencies.

If citizens don’t have rights, man up and stop using words like democracy and freedom. Just cut the BS already.

The US trade partners are also casually glossing over the fact that US federal law makes it not credible that ANY organisation with a HQ in the US can protect client information. It simply is not legally possible.