DJM wrote:Check out the 10 day forecast for Ballater as predicted by the usually reliable Norwegians. The dizzy heights of 20C seem a long way off ..

I have been keen on yr.no for several years but this year it seems to have become overly pessimistic - on a recent holiday on the Scottish west coast it predicted rain almost every day and we had none. I hope it is just as inaccurate for next week

Other countries seem to use "Toi Toi" and don't mind such infringements.As EA I suggested rewording the EOC/ETOC Bulletins last year, but the organisers assured me that all other countries are familiar with that term.