On Monday night, Bill O’Reilly invited Charles Krauthammer to chat about the outrage du jour: President Obama‘s super-secret golfing vacation. Krauthammer wasn’t buying into the hype though, deeming the whole thing a “non-story” — and further arguing that point with an allusion to the Kardashians.

There are two elements, O’Reilly said: press access and the image of the president playing golf with Tiger Woods, who’s “a controversial guy.” It’s a “trivial issue,” Krauthammer dismissed.

“If the guy wants to play golf, the guy deserves a couple of days off. He wants privacy? Big deal,” he asserted, adding that it’s the “biggest non-story the media have created since the Kardashian weddings.”

He simply doesn’t understand the outrage, he said.

“The press being banned from covering his leisure activities — you don’t care?” O’Reilly followed up.

“Absolutely not,” Krauthammer replied. O’Reilly pointed to Woods’ “dubious” resume and the president lending his “prestige” to the scandalized athlete. Obama isn’t likely out there getting marital advice, Krauthammer countered.

With that, they moved on to a more serious topic: drones. Under the constitution, Krauthammer said, the commander-in-chief conducts wars — as past presidents have — and has the “highest authority” in deciding who lives and who dies. And even in the case of an American citizen, he added, if that citizen takes up arms against America, he or she gives up constitutional rights, including due process.

O’Reilly posited that in past situations it was a “declared war,” which isn’t the case now, but Krauthammer disagreed, arguing that it’s declared now as well. Looking to get into talk of double standards, O’Reilly then asked whether conservative reaction would be different if Mitt Romney had been president with the same drone program. “Isn’t this about Obama?” he asked.

“No, I don’t. I think there would be the same amount of opposition,” Krauthammer replied, not buying that logic. The hypocrisy, he said, is with liberals, who were much harsher with George W. Bush.