Open Carry with a BIG twist.

This is a discussion on Open Carry with a BIG twist. within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by myusername
We can walk around with rifles here. You will get a lot of unwanted attention but it is legal. I was ...

We can walk around with rifles here. You will get a lot of unwanted attention but it is legal. I was talking about this with an attorney I know a while back. We were talking about how the police get calls from scared people during gun shows. They call about people walking down the street with rifles and shotguns in their hands.

Very true. In Minnesota, with your carry permit, you can carry your AR or shotgun slung over your shoulder in downtown Minneapolis (I would not recommend it but you can legally).

So not all states are hung up with OC rifles, shotguns or pistols being a bad thing.

Here in AZ, carrying a rifle open is OK. I knew a guy who used to sling his AK over his back while riding his Honda Scooter. Got stopped a few times, but all perfectly legal.
Strapping a long gun negates two huge benefits of CCW - suprise, and manueverability. Most defensive shootings occur inside 7 yards, too close for a long gun, unless you're version of a long gun is a Czech Skorpion. Also, the rifle toter will be marked as the first target in any ambush setting. Also, what about overpenetration? You're responsible for that slug, wherever it goes...
The rifleis a great tool, properly employed, and unless we have a huge surge of terrorist incidents, and enough intelligent people in Congress don't panic at the thought of everyday citizens carrying thier rifles open, then carrying one everyday might not be the greatest idea.
As for training, we DID impliment a law here in AZ allowing public schools to offer firearms training as an elective, range time REQUIRED to pass. Unfortunately, it's up to the individual school districts if they want to offer it, and I don't know of any yet. I'd like to see it as common as driver's ed. Maybe next year.

As for training, we DID impliment a law here in AZ allowing public schools to offer firearms training as an elective, range time REQUIRED to pass. Unfortunately, it's up to the individual school districts if they want to offer it, and I don't know of any yet. I'd like to see it as common as driver's ed. Maybe next year.

That is awsome!!!

I think a pistol cal carbine in .40 or .45 would be ideal especialy with a folding stock for transport( gotta compramise somewhere).

“You come at me with a sword and with a spear. But I come at you in the name of the LORD of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied. This day the LORD will deliver you into my hand, and I will strike you and take your head from you". 1 Samuel 17, 45-46Brian

“You come at me with a sword and with a spear. But I come at you in the name of the LORD of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied. This day the LORD will deliver you into my hand, and I will strike you and take your head from you". 1 Samuel 17, 45-46Brian

Imagine you're in a Stop'n'Rob picking up some milk, BGs come in waving guns to rob the cashier. You are open carrying, they see it, calculate you are a threat and shoot you before you can act. If concealed that weapon wouldn't have attracted attention.

Imagine you are walking in a mall, on the street, wherever. You are open carrying, a BG sees the gun and decides it is time he had a new gun. He hits you from behind. If concealed that gun wouldn't have attracted attention.

And that is understandable due to the business they are in. OC profits that instructor nothing.

Originally Posted by Pete

if they can see it then expect some sort of trouble, even if it's only some passerby having a panic attack and calling the police.

This is a very true reality and many of the OC citizens suffer from police being called for nothing illegal happening. Even to the point of being cuffed and disarmed. But, while not everyone served in the military, all of us enjoy the freedoms that veterans served to protect.

Likewise, the antis went after 'machine guns' first, then 'assault weapons' next. Little by little chipping away at our freedom. The more people that OC the less ground is taken due to 'out of sight, out of mind'. Legislators have agendas. So do I.

Originally Posted by Pete

I understand that due to your background and location that your carry methods will vary. Here in Nashville I keep mine tucked...

This is also very true. That being said, you may recognize that in Louisiana, our public and police need serious education about the 2nd amendment down here. To drive the point home I am willing to be 'harassed' by police especially around New Orleans, which have proven they are willing to 'go Gestapo' when nobody is looking.

I also feel that perhaps a CHL is owner registration. Some people feel it is making a 'right' into a 'privilege'

Originally Posted by Pete

No offense taken, it's all debate to me, I enjoy it and never take offense.

Thank you for that as I was never trying to offend. I try not to get 'fired up' but, do sometimes due to my beliefs of our freedoms.

My only real concerns would be people leaving their rifle laying around because they had their hands full or some other reason to unsling it. That and the greater handling required because the rifle gets in the way and is readjusted, picked up, put down. Not to mention an exposed trigger.