]]>By: Shebahttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-50962
Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:04:22 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-50962Spielberg made a public appearance with Tom Cruise in support of the war in Iraq. Elie Wiesel also made a solo UN presentation on the merits of the war against Iraq. Need I say more? The flock together as birds of the same feather. In every liberal arts college students are made to read Elie Wiesel’s work. To this day, he is revered despite the fact that he is a neocon. The ones who applaud him are of the same “background.”
]]>By: Edwin Duncanhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-41999
Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:01:02 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-41999love taylor she is amazing
]]>By: Taylor Swifthttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-41586
Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:09:09 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-41586i love her. shes so nice and pretty and shes a really great role model. and shes SOOOOO much better than miley cyrus
]]>By: keith harmon snowhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-36846
Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:03:37 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-36846Hello

I’m unclear why the above comment was added to this thread at this time.

blessings
keith

]]>By: Spilpunt: Congo (Kinshasa) « artek furniturehttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-36838
Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:05:05 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-36838[…] In January 2008 the International Rescue Committee, who is also discussed in this article, released its second survey of mortality in the Democratic Republic of Congo, estimating that 5,400,000 people have died, or some 1500 people every day. Mortality in the Democratic Republic of Congo: an Ongoing Crisis, International Rescue Committee, January 2008. However, IRC statistics are highly biased and politicized. See: keith harmon snow, “Over Five Million Dead in Congo?” Dissident Voice, February 4, 2008. # […]
]]>By: Ann Whitehttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-20643
Sat, 17 May 2008 08:30:10 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-20643Former US Ambassador Daniel Kurtzer is a key policy advisor to Barack Obama. He was up until recently a board member of Nikanor.
Do we pick the Republicans with their obvious special interests or Democrats with these types of players like Dan Kurtzer being in an even better position to plunder their way through the third world. Not great choice. Why cant there be any clean and committed people seeking positions of power? Or if there are, why can’t they choose wisely among advisors who do right?
]]>By: keith harmon snowhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-15295
Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:54:54 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-15295The first sentence of this story was trimmed down during editing (by the writer) and is incorrect. It should be:
“Maurice Templesman is one of the top funders of the Democratic Party and has funded both Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton.”
]]>By: keith harmon snowhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-15294
Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:54:17 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-15294The first sentence of this story was trimmed down during editing and is incorrect. It should be:
“Maurice Templesman is one of the top funders of the Democratic Party and has funded both Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton.”
]]>By: mahahttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-15210
Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:06:49 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-15210The aim of people like Jaime is not so much to “convert” anyone — the game is up and it’s too late for that — as to make enough noise to halt meaningful discussion, divert attention, scare people into compromise and draw attention to himself. It’s the same formula used on all blogs. Best ignore the rattle-shaking clown.
]]>By: marybhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-14609
Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:13:01 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-14609You must be M E G A P H O N E’s best little worker….You might get the gold star.
]]>By: keith harmon snowhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-14605
Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:50:00 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-14605Hello

Yes, Mulga has a point: Goebbels is a much more appropriate comparison.

Did I hear a (meaningless) squeak somewhere else? Why do you conscious folks invest all your energy debating the pathological unconscious?

]]>By: Mulga Mumblebrainhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-14601
Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:14:22 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-14601I remember coming to the opinion that Spielberg was a creep during the first Indiana Jones movie. You know the scene-the white hero is in a dusty market-place, surrounded by yabbering ‘rag-heads’. He is confronted by a large ‘desert nigger’ wielding a massive sword. Our hero, exemplar of that innate superiority, both moral and technological, that is the White Man’s gift to the ‘brutes’ dwelling in the global ‘injun country’ (or should that be ‘free fire zone’), simply draws his trusty revolver and plugs the ‘two-legged animal’ to the raucous applause and laughter of the audience.
We all know Hollywood is the great Jewish cottage industry, although jaime will assert, naturally, that that is a canard that first appeared in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. We have all sat through movies that have portrayed Arabs and Moslems as universally savage, murderous, untrustworthy, cowardly and vicious, or if they are good little Quislings, as pro-American (who can help it?) and bitter enemies of their own people. It’s not as if its ever been subtle, at all, either. Naturally if there was a great global film industry somewhere else that portrayed Jews and Israelis in such a fashion, there would be universal, and merited, outrage. But in our world of unending hatemongering and visceral contempt, portraying Arabs as the scum of the Earth, is Free Speech, don’t you know. It’s like sponsoring the production of a series of viciously anti-Moslem cartoons, then having Rightwing anti-Moslem and anti-Arab racists publish them over and over again, in the fervent hope that they will elicit an outraged reaction so the racists can turn around and say ‘See, I told you they were savages!’. I do disagree, however, with Mr Snow in his comparison of Spielberg with Eichmann. The Hollywood anti-Arab, anti-Chinese, pro-Israeli claque remind me more of the likes of those who produced Die Sturmer, and Speilberg can be better compared, in my opinion, with Goebbels or Streicher, and Mia Farrow can be his Leni Riefenstahl.
]]>By: keith harmon snowhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-14585
Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:16:00 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-14585and dont forget that the Save Darfur gang — Stephen Speilberg et al — don’t say anything about US involvemnet in Sudan.

Speilberg represents the height of white supremacy, arrogance and the studied ignorance of fascism. Presented as a moral prophet, Speilberg’s ties to the Pentagon are of course irrelevant, as are his propaganda films, garbage like JAWS and CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, but worse is all that fascist “humanitarian” propaganda infotainment military-entertainment complex prodcutions like SAVING PRIVATE RYAN and SCHINDLER’s LIST.

And then there are all those racist Indiana Jones films which intentionally mythologize Africa and other “exotic” places — that we are destroying — while the great white fools (which Speilberg exemplefies perfectly now) reap the bounty and sit back in their Hollywood studios — or in US theaters — eating popcorn saying “tut, tut, tut” we should help those African savages. (And we reserave the right to bomb niggers).

Hollywood works closely with the Pentagon, of course (see my stories EXIT THE MATRIX and OUT OF THE BLUE and see http://www.stanford.edu/class/sts145/Library/Lenoir-Lowood_TheatersOfWar.pdf ) but this is irrelevant, of course, because people donyt see it, or know about it, but it would still be irrelevant even if they did know, becuase that’s teh nature of white oblivioussness and what we can name “Speilberg’s Arrogance Syndrome” but which affects more than 75-80% of the English speaking public.

The most offensive is the idea that Speilberg and Mia Farrow — the great white goddes herself — and all the Eric Reeveses and Nicholas Kristof — are above scrutiny, a do-gooder extraordinaire, instead being at the very heart of the insidious epistemologies of exploitation that butress the Empire and its massive atrocities against innocent people all over the world.

Steven Speilberg is Eichmann, but lives in a world (his own mind is merely an extension of the greater “international community” he is part of) where he believes he is more like Anne Frank.

Speilberg represents the height of white supremacy, arrogance and the studied ignorance of fascism. Presented as a moral prophet, Speilberg’s ties to the Pentagon are of course irrelevant, as are his propaganda films, garbage like JAWS and CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, but worse is all that fascist “humanitarian” propaganda infotainment military-entertainment complex prodcutions like SAVING PRIVATE RYAN and SCHINDLER’s LIST.

And then there are all those racist Indiana Jones films which intentionally mythologize Africa and other “exotic” places — that we are destroying — while the great white fools (which Speilberg exemplefies perfectly now) reap the bounty and sit back in their Hollywood studios — or in US theaters — eating popcorn saying “tut, tut, tut” we should help those African savages. (And we reserave the right to bomb niggers).

Hollywood works closely with the Pentagon, of course (see my stories EXIT THE MATRIX and OUT OF THE BLUE and see http://www.stanford.edu/class/sts145/Library/Lenoir-Lowood_TheatersOfWar.pdf ) but this is irrelevant, of course, because people donyt see it, or know about it, but it would still be irrelevant even if they did know, becuase that’s teh nature of white oblivioussness and what we can name “Speilberg’s Arrogance Syndrome” but which affects more than 75-80% of the English speaking public.

The most offensive is the idea that Speilberg and Mia Farrow — the great white goddes herself — and all the Eric Reeveses and Nicholas Kristof — are above scrutiny, a do-gooder extraordinaire, instead being at the very heart of the insidious epistemologies of exploitation that butress the Empire and its massive atrocities against innocent people all over the world.

Steven Speilberg is Eichman, but lives in a world (his own mind is merely an extension of the greater “international community” he is part of) where he believes he is more like Anne Frank.

(spit.)

]]>By: Mulga Mumblebrainhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-14583
Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:46:48 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-14583Events unfolding in the last few days show clearly that the long awaited campaign to boycott the Beijing Olympics has begun, led, as expected, by the forces of ‘Jewish humanitarianism’. Pardon my mirth. It was always plain that the forces of ‘Western Civilization’ would attempt at some stage to spread their beloved ‘Clash of Civilizations’ beyond the current phase of mass murder of Moslems, theft of their land and resources and general racial antipathy and contempt, to confront the awakening dragon.
Naturally their prime concern is somehow, by any means, to prevent China assuming a world dominant, or even a countervailing, position vis-a-vis the two-headed Holy State and perpetual global hegemon, Israel/USA. China’s inexorable economic growth, its role in fostering disobedience in the Empire’s periphery in Africa and South America and its burgeoning techno-scientific prowess mean the task is daily becoming more urgent. The USA/Israel power axis has enlisted the European powers, mostly through that global death-squad NATO, into its Imperialistic policing activities. NATO is being ‘blooded’ in Afghanistan, a good old-fashioned neo-colonial war to put the ‘niggers’ back in their place being seen as an useful exercise in inculcating the required attitudes of racialist supremacy that come so naturally to both Israel and the US. Alas, all is not going to plan, despite prodigies of cowardly murder of women and children by aerial bombardment.
I got my first concrete pre-sentiment of the anti-China campaign last year, from the only Jewish member of our Parliament, Michael Danby, known as ‘The Member for Israel’ for his aggressive belligerence in attacking any who dare question the Holy State, even within his own Party. In my opinion, Mr Danby is a classic example of the ‘divided loyalties’ question. Mr Danby opined, in a piece in one of Murdoch’s sewer rags, that China was responsible for genocide in Darfur. I must say I found it confounding that a member of the ALP, a Party with a long history of friendliness towards China, and whose leader, now our Prime Minister, Rudd, is the only Western leader I know of who is fluent in ‘Mandarin’, should launch such an unbridled attack on our greatest trading partner. Of course a moment’s reflection explains all. Israel controls the US, as is common knowledge, if ferociously denied. Israel, however, has as much chance of similarly controlling China as I have of flying to the moon. Not, of course, that China will be naturally antipathetic towards Israel, but Israel’s immunity to International Law and its God-(and US)ordained right to ignore all basic human decency, may be somewhat curtailed.
The sheer cynical viciousness of the hypocrisy over Darfur is, in my opinion, breath-taking. The Save Darfur mob, primarily, as has been amply demonstrated, US Zionist and other pro-Israeli forces, have such finely honed humanitarian instincts that the suffering of the Darfurians raises their precious moral consciences to ecstasies of outrage, yet the vastly greater suffering in the Congo arouses utter indifference. Mr Snow’s masterly exposition of Israel’s central role in the destruction and looting of the Congo explains that paradox. The Mia Farrows (God I almost begin to feel sorry for Woody Allen!)of this world may have the unspeakable chutzpah to desecrate the memorials to the victims of Pol Pot in their frantic efforts, but have they uttered even a peep over the victims of US/Israeli machinations in Somalia, which the UN has stated is even a greater humanitarian crisis than Darfur? Have they opened their mouths to condemn the slaughter in Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon and Gaza? Let me speculate. In my opinion, these are the type of creature who would actually support these Made in Washington/Tel Aviv atrocities. The smell of vicious opportunism, utilising the deaths of thousands in a nasty civil war, allied with cynical hypocrisy and a ghastly, racist, double-standard that divides the dead into politically useful and politically embarassing victims, that surrounds this whole campaign is a familiar stink. It is the stench of Western racial supremacism, the delusion of civilisational superiority founded on the bleached bones of millions of ‘savages’ who got in the way of the Europeans’ ‘manifest destiny’ to rule the world, with a jack-boot firmly planted in the ‘niggers’ ‘ face, forever.
]]>By: jaimehttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-14548
Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:02:24 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/gertlers-bling-bang-torah-gang/#comment-14548“Do you really believe that everybody who isn’t Jewish has an “antisemitism” gene, that causes them to hate Jews for no reason at all?”

Well, re Q. #1, have you read Walt & Mearsheimer’s book? “The Power of Israel in the US” by Jas Petras?

Did you assume that Mr Snow was making all that up, about Templesman, Gertler et al? You think he was lying? If so, please say so, thank you.

Do you really believe that everybody who isn’t Jewish has an “antisemitism” gene, that causes them to hate Jews for no reason at all?

Q2: When it comes to the Torah & Ten Commandments I’m out of my element, but Dr Joel Kovel read some interesting quotes from it last night. Wish I could give you a cite but maybe you can find it in his “Overcoming Zionism”, just out, 20 bucks? About obeying The Lord’s commandment to “dash them against the rocks”, meaning the “infants” of the goyim who’d had the chutzpah to get to the Promised Land generations in advance of The Chosen People.

Of course Joshua 11:11 is pretty direct too: “And they smote all the souls that were therein with the edge of the sword, utterly destroying them; there was not any left to breathe…”

Wasn’t the plot of the whole tale that Y*W*H had promised the Promised Land of milk & honey to Moses up there on Mt Sinai, and therefore the Hebrews were dutybound to follow The Lord’s commandment to ethnically cleanse the area of whoever happened to be domiciled there?

And isn’t the whole Zionist narrative basically a retelling of the same sad story? “The Lord said it’s ours, so get the fuck out. If you’re still here at sundown, it’ll be your ass. And your own fault: we told you what was up. Shoulda paid attention, dummies.”

Looks like I’ve totally misread and misunderstood this forum and you nice people.

BTW what do Mulga and Greybeard mean when they post:

“…Israel’s unique position, in control of US politics and with unprecedented economic and political influence throughout the Western world and beyond…”

and

“..Quoting the Ten Commandments is, unfortunately, useless, for the Babylonian Talmud is the Orthodox “sacred scripture”, and the Bible means not what it says (i.e., the text), but what the rabbis say it means. Thus, “thous shalt not kill” has NOTHING to do with the killing of a non-Jew…”

Was delighted to hear from Annette Gordon that Clarity might get to publish your upcoming book! Hope so; I’d look fwd to promoting it here in Sactomato.

Jaime:

My apologies for lack of clarity/excess verbiage in my attempt to find a way to help you out of the dead end you’re in. Put more simply, it’s glaringly obvious that you do all this online blabbing mainly to keep YOURSELF convinced. Isn’t it clear to you by now that this site is one place where you aren’t likely to make any converts?

Quiet as it’s kept among your fellow sufferers, people who “hate Jews” because they are Jews are very rare in the USA nowadays, especially in liberal to progressive to radical circles like those attracted to a publication like DV.

I must admit to a degree of Ziolib fatigue engendered by too much contact with “peace activists” who think Jewish Voice for Peace is an ally in the struggle for Justice in Palestine/”Israel”. But I seldom encounter out and out Zionists like yourself anymore. When I do I usually just go off on them, get in their chests to try to disabuse them of the notion that they’re some kind of “victim” in US society today, or in the US Empire where the ongoing “holocaust” in Africa has claimed even more lives than Hitler & HIS scumbag regime snuffed out (with the aid of the political mentors of the folks now running the Jewish State, i.e. Z. Jabotinsky, M. Begin, Y. Shamir & other erstwhile Stern Gang honchae, as documented by “smiling Irishman” Lenni Brenner in his “51 Instances of Nazi-Zionist Collaboration”, as well as in earlier books/writings.
You see, Jaime, I got into this M-E Problem business because I had a propensity to hang out with Jewish guys and to read Jewish writers. Matter of fact I went to an elementary school where forty pct or so of the kids were Jewish; where they were let out early cpl times a week to attend Hebrew School (which I assumed had to do with learning the language of The Old Country they’d immigrated from); where our entire sixth grade class was taken in the spring of 1946 to view the film “Lest We Forget”; no thought was given to asking parents whether they thought it wise to expose 11yr olds to such horrific footage…

My best playmate during those glorious Oregon summers was (now deceased alas) Delores “Mitzi” Miller, whose real pre-immigration name was Mitchnik, whose parents had tried Israel but found the US more appealing. They were from somewhere in Europe, dunno just where; evidently had had some negative experiences, kept to themselves but had no qualms re Mitzi hanging out with a goy kid from the next street over.
I remember my mother commenting rather proudly that people often assumed my older brother to be Jewish, because of his dark goodlooks and brillian intelligence. (He should have won the Nobel Prize but didn’t have a clue what The Science Game was really about). I remember him advising me, during one of my brief visits to his Rad Lab Grad Stude digs, to marry if possible a Jewish girl since they were usually the smartest & most accomplished. (Well, I tried a cpl times but no takers:)
Well, I’ll hafta postpone this, things to do. “To be continued”?

But try to get it through your head: nobody hates you because you’re Jewish. Nobody but a handful of rightwing nuts dreams of “killing all the Jews”. A lot of people get tired of affluent Jews whining about being victimized, when it is the official “Jewish Community” that is primarily responsible for most of the oppression on the planet today. But even re the Olmerts & the Nut&yahoos, the Templesmans & Moskowitzes, I’m opposed to the Death Penalty. Life at Hard Labor for such cases seems to me just fine, but leave it to the Tribunal, maybe forty yrs would be suitable to some perps?
Okay, I’ll morUL8r, trmn8r:)