April 5, 2012

Says CNN's Gary Tuckman, closing a report that made it obvious that Zimmerman said "fucking cold" — on that cold, raining night — and not "fucking coons" after he saw Trayvon Martin, the young man he would later shoot to death.

Why would there still be controversy over what Zimmerman really said, and why would Tuckman end his report by keeping alive the sick hope that Zimmerman is a racist?

What there should still be controversy over is whether CNN feeds off racial discord — either for ratings or in pursuit of an insane political agenda.

George Zimmerman handed out fliers at black Sanford churches a year ago, outraged that a white police lieutenant's son, captured on video sucker-punching a homeless black man, was not arrested on the spot, family members said.

The fliers urged blacks to go to a Sanford City Commission meeting to protest and demand that the police chief be held accountable. . . . (read more at link)

He's not white. He's not racist. He did not kill in cold blood. He did not say "coon". He does not weigh 220 lbs. He did suffer injuries at the hands of Trayvon Martin.....CNN et al. should make note of all the mistakes they have made in their reports to date. They should give notice of these mistakes as much airing as the original mistakes......It will never happen.in

I can totally see Zimmerman saying, "it's fucking cold" by the way. He's making idle chit chat about the weather, 1) because he's scared and 2) because it builds trust. Weather is the greatest ice-breaker subject between strangers.

The percentage of people who would get on the phone and start spouting racial epithets to a stranger, unprompted, is really pretty low.

Dear sweet jebus, people, doesn't anyone know anyone who has some regional dialect expertise or the like? Who says "coon" anymore? Is that even a word in common use as a derogatory insult against blacks? I haven;t heard it in 20 years. Pathetic. All the faux science-y bullshit and the chin-stroking analytical look on that tool's face. As if he's performing some crucial public service. Why isn't that Sherman Ware story out there more? Oh, yeah...

Well, there's a Paul Simon song that says "people hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest." I would say that it certainly applies here. And it's a very sad state of affairs when major news outlets jump on a bandwagon driven by the likes of Sharpton and Jackson. So anxious to make this racial.

Why would there still be controversy over what Zimmerman really said, and why would Tuckman end his report by keeping alive the sick hope that Zimmerman is a racist?

Because America is a bad place, Ann.

A place where white racism keeps blacks down and sometimes leads to whites being so racist, they shoot blacks for "looking suspicious."

Never mind that racism is such a trivial problem that public policy arguments are over preferences to college, and that blacks attack whites 7 times more often than the inverse, the narrative must be maintained.

As long as this dipstick "journalist" can hold out hope, the narrative can remain.

Typical. Stir up a lot of artifical drama and when it hits the fan, it's all "Both sides feel strongly about this issue" and hide behind the same journalistic objectiveness you ignored when smearing the man in the first place.

This sounds like an example of pareidolia, in which insignificant occurrences are interpreted to have significance, often aided by suggestion. You'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between a CNN anchor playing the Zimmerman tape and a paranormal investigator playing a clip of white noise. In both instances, the tape will be played once with nothing discernible, then the presenter will say, "Did you hear it? 'Fucking coons/Geeeeet ooooout.' We'll play it a second time; listen closely!" Then, of course, the suggested phrase is obvious and you can't not hear it.

For many here, CNN had no credibility on racially and politically charged stories like this even before this latest demonstration of "fake but accurate" reporting (I use the term only in the MSM sense). So the real question is whether this episode will impact how the other half views the reliability of their reporting. I think the answer is that the loss of credibility will occur only at the margins. Of course, you could say the same about how many regard the reporting on Fox.

We are becoming a society that is so distrustful of the motives and agendas, and so unwilling to listen before reaching conclusions, that confirmation bias is the new normal as a description of how we observe what's happening around us.

I swear I could not hear a thing in the first clip. (You and me, LukeL.)

Of course they were playing all of a millisecondover and over. And I reeeaaalyy tried hard and finally thought (including what seemed like a lot of *breath* sounds) that there might be a scrap of a human articulation there.... but a word? And "clear?"

They smoking weed over at CNN?

Maybe not, but this absolutely convinced me that CNN and the left are racists. That is the first and olnly thing on their minds. How could anyone get "coon" out of that?

The *second* one played the whole two word clip -- and he commented on how short it was. Say what? Two weeks ago you used an indecipherable mini blip of a sound bit to indict a man -- and the two word clip is "short?"

The "O" sound in "cold" is actually quite different than the "O" sound in coon, just on case you never noticed.

But the biggy is that the "reporter" states that Zimmerman was "pursuing" Martin.

Does no one teach the English language in journalism school anymore? Oh yeah, they do.

It's called Propaganda 101.

pursue - to follow in order to overtake, capture, kill, or defeat

follow - to take the same route behind another person, e.g. by walking down the street or driving along the same road, deliberately or by chance

This keeping the story alive (because someone decided it was a good story) chills me to the bone. Its not news. It not journalism. Its a story, and we're going to tell it no matter how many real people might be chewed up in the process. I refrain from saying innocent people because I just don't know! But I DO know that real people (like Joe the plumber for another example) have been chewed up for no good reason whatsoever other than to flog someone's else's ideological superiority.

The whole false narrative, which has been constructed to portray a big bad racist bigot gunning down a mere slip of a 12-year-old boy, shooting him "down like a dog", like the Plastic Turkey, will never die.

It is called covering your bases. You don't want to be sued, yet you still want to do your part in pushing the desired narrative. After all you don't want your 'friends' in the race-hustling party to be offended.

Maybe it's the rough crowd I interact with too often, but I have heard the word coon as applied to black people very frequently. But then we are talking DEEP COUNTRY. Dueling banjo's and bows and arrows country. I've heard just about every slur used (except for macaca, never heard that one used but for CNN. Connection?) The stunned silence and open gapes when I reveal my family tree is quite amusing. Because of my genetic hound dog mix, I get a lot of amusement watching people bicker about the dumbest thing in the world, the color of someones skin.

I also hear the Italian/wop stuff, actually I have heard the French called frogs. Catholics as mackeral snappers. And who can forget the hispanics with garbachos, and gringos.

No one is free from the racist taint. No one is innocent in this cluster fox trot, and to act so is disingenuous.

People break down into tribal affiliations. It's the old Floyd Boys song Us and Them. And that is simplistic, but it's the truth.

First time I've listened to any of the tapes. Definitely a long "o" sound. Cold, snow, mope, coat. If it were coon, it would have a long "u" sound. Coon, bloom, dune, ruin. Gary Tuckman's a dope (long "o") and a tool (long "u"). I don't know why anyone would listen to anything he says.

One Christmas, at the family re-union, I was watching the kids. I often do this because they and I have the same intellectual level. Also, for some reason, babies, kids and animals are fascinated by me.(must be my kirlian aura).

Anyway, I have all the kids in the TV room, and have "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" on for them. The real one, with Boris Karloff, not that Jim Carey abortion. Anyway, the youngest is sitting in my lap when the song "You're a Mean One Mr. Grinch" comes on. I fancy myself a fair baritone, and a pretty good mimic so I start singing along. Joe, the one sitting in my lap, looks around at me with big brown eyes. He slowly reaches up, and with his tiny hand clamps my lips shut. He says to me, "Shhh... You don't sing." So much for my vanity.

Anyway, the moral of the story is Joe is the best behaved of all the children there, and is darker skinned than Obama. His brother, John, is a ginger, and the rottenest kid you ever want to meet. In fact, I think he's in jail now.

As an addendum, his younger cousins are both blue eyed blonds, just like his mom is.

"Why would there still be controversy over what Zimmerman really said, and why would Tuckman end his report by keeping alive the sick hope that Zimmerman is a racist?"

Because the Democrats and the lapdog media have nothing else. Obama's foreign policy is a disaster. His economic policies are producing high prices, high unemployment and hugh deficits. He is bitterly partisan and disrespectful of anyone who dares disagree with him. He cannot run on his record so he'll attempt to confuse the issues.

CNN is so deep in Obama's pocket that another millimeter and it would be a morals charge,

Carnifex, very interesting. I thought it might be highly regionalized. Plus, while the genius media is debating Zimmerman's "race", I do wonder if coon is used at all among Hispanics or mixed race Latin folks. Whatever his ridiculous designation ends up being. Someone on the thread said that area is mostly New Jersey folks or something like that. But didn't anyone at CNN think to ask about the word itself? It's as if the tape could possibly be construed to be heard as Zimmerman calling Trayvon a "Moor". Sure, somewhere, maybe that's a word for "black". But who uses it? It's 100% idiocy, zero analysis.

Just testing Freder's theory that every 19th Althouse post is a lie. And here it is, another George Zimmerman post exactly 19 posts after the last one. It must be a lie. I tell you that Fredero is brilliant.