Andy Greene and Mark Fayne are our best defensemen. I really despise the Greene hate here and on HF. He is last on my list I want traded.

+1 to that and to the A-train hate over his mistake in the PIT game. Players are human, they aren't perfect. Everyone makes mistakes obviously. The difference is that a defenseman's mistake is much more likely to end up in a goal against but being a defensemen doesn't mean you're less human and therefore less likely to make a mistake. Clarkson and Kovy fvck up all the time but they give up a scoring chance and not a goal. If anyone needs to sit for bad play it is Zid.

Saw a lot of the game but wasn't able to watch close - did check the box score afterwards and saw that Bryce Salvador played 3 more minutes than anyone else. Always good to have your worst D play the most minutes while Henrik Tallinder is a healthy scratch.