The city of Bel Aire, Kansas must not have liked its plan…

posted at 8:01 am on November 14, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Some of you perpetual whiners and complainers who are clearly just rooting for Obamacare to fail really need to stop with these stories you’ve been telling. Oh, we’ve heard them all for the last month. One lady in San Diego lost her plan. Some guy in Maryland had to drop out because his rates tripled. Another guy in Phoenix had his employer tell him that he’d need to find new insurance. But that, my friends, is now small potatoes. How about when the government of an entire town loses their plan?

“Today, Congressman Mike Pompeo, R-Kansas, released communications he received from Ty Lasher, the city manager of Bel Aire, Kansas, describing the terrible impact of the Affordable Care Act on city workers. Contrary to President Obama’s promise that “if you like your health-care plan, you can keep it,” the city manager of Bel Aire, Kansas, revealed that city’s 30+ employees have just received notice that because of the Affordable Care Act, their current insurance will no longer be available. The text of the email is below:

Bel Aire is a small city of approximately 7,000 residents. We have about 30 full-time employees and a number of part-time staff that are all very attached and dedicated to our organization. We just received notice that the health-insurance coverage employees receive through Blue Cross Blue Shield (BCBS) is no longer available. Everyone liked that plan which had very good benefits.

“Now, BCBS offers other plans that we can choose from based on the government’s standards. All offer higher deductibles and the two closest to our old plan each cost more than what we were paying. In addition, because we are under 50 employees, we no longer get a ‘group’ rate so everyone is being judged as a single.

“We have some long-term employees who are older and seeing their rates double. We are also seeing families paying more based on the number of children they have. We had a couple of employees who worked 20 hours a week and the city still allowed them on our health coverage plan.

“Now, BCBS said they will not cover anyone unless they work more than 30 hours per week. Therefore, those part-time employees will now lose their health coverage. To top it off, we were told if more than 25% of our ineligible employees choose to go elsewhere for their insurance, they will drop us, and all of our employees will have to go to the insurance exchange.

Is the President about to tell us that the Blue Cross Blue Shield plan which was purchased for the entire town government was some sort of “junk insurance” which nobody would want anyway? And what are some of these other changes that insurance carriers are putting in place in response to the Affordable Care Act? Bel Aire has less than fifty employees. For some reason, many of us were under the impression (from endless speeches by the Insurance Adjuster in Chief) that smaller companies weren’t going to be affected in any way. Did anyone actually read this bill? (Okay… okay… before you say it, I mean besides Ted Cruz.)

I’m really curious to see what happens at the end of the week when the new “fix it” legislation hits the floor. Is Obama really ready to fight for this particular hill to the bitter end, even if it winds up in his first veto override, participated in by some gun shy members of his own party? This is looking more and more like an episode of Top Gear where they get to the end of the show and just decide to crash all the cars on the course at once. Thankfully, Obamacare doesn’t regulate auto insurance. Yet…

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Is Obama really ready to fight for this particular hill to the bitter end, even if it winds up in his first veto override

The lazy stupid one’s ego can not handle a veto override of his signature legislation.

Bill Clinton took override of welfare reform in stride. He signed it on camera making it clear that he was doing it under duress and, when it succeeded, he took credit for it. Obama promised the radical left socialized medicine and that is slipping from his grasp as we speak. He won’t be able to handle that kind of defeat. Which is why, IMO, Harry Reid will firewall any kind of “fix it” legislation from his desk.

I’m really curious to see what happens at the end of the week when the new “fix it” legislation hits the floor. Is Obama really ready to fight for this particular hill to the bitter end, even if it winds up in his first veto override, participated in by some gun shy members of his own party? This is looking more and more like an episode of Top Gear where they get to the end of the show and just decide to crash all the cars on the course at once. Thankfully, Obamacare doesn’t regulate auto insurance. Yet…

Gee, it’s almost as if those racist founding fathers were on to something when they told us that the government that governs best, governs least.

Who’d thunk that a bunch of old white guys who’d studied history would be more clued in to reality than a cool, Aff*rmative Act*on, half-Kenyan, community organizer with a knack for reading speeches off a teleprompter?

The problem here, one the Dems refuse to acknowledge, is that the plug needs to be pulled on Obamacare. Today, it is a small suburb of Wichita whose employees have become uninsured. Soon it will be larger municipalities and institutions.

In short we need to slay the dragon before we decide how to carve up the carcass.

Stupid red-staters don’t know what’s good for them. The Great and Glorious People’s Insurance Plan is far superior to their old, outdated, misogynistic, inadequate plan forced upon them by evil insurance companies.

The genie is out of the bottle, and he ain’t in a wish granting mood. Matter of fact he’s a PO’d mean SOB. Ain’t no way he’s goin’ back into that bottle either.

Oldnuke on November 14, 2013 at 8:18 AM

As I posted on another thread, the problem here is that too much time has been allowed to discuss just what is involved with Obamacare. Had the enrollment process been smooth they may have been able to get away with it. But since it was not way too many people have finally figured out that the crux of Obamacare is pushing healthy people into expensive plans they do not need or want to finance a bunch of unhealthy parasites who will pay little to nothing for the exact same coverage.

And BTW, I picture the genie as a crusty old Chief Boatswain’s Mate who isn’t going back into that bottle under any circumstances.

Anyone notice that all these “replacement” plans are with higher deductibles & premiums? No wonder the insurance companies went for Obamacare, they make out like bandits until the regulators come in and demand a piece of the action. Good Ol’ John Q Public takes it in the rear one more time!

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“The dude at 20 hours who was able to join the group plan, sorry bud but it really was junk, you simply weren’t bright enough to realize it. So either go out and find a 30+ hour job or deal with it. You’re welcome.”

“They’re gonna stop calling it ‘ObamaCare’ just as soon as they find out how good it is”

BigWyo on November 14, 2013 at 8:23 AM

I don’t see that happening anytime soon. In fact I think we are days if not hours away from open revolt in the Dem ranks. They are already lined up at the rails with life jackets on and Clinton just gave them the order that it is okay to abandon ship.

The lazy stupid one says that he will soon propose a “fix” to make good on his promise that you can keep your plan. I don’t see how any thing he can propose legally would go far enough to thwart a revolt. It is already clear that Congress and the public isn’t going to go along with the idea of more subsidies which he can’t do legally. And even if he does let people keep their plans, that just kills the funding mechanism to pay for the unhealthy parasites that rushed to the exchanges the minute they could.

For those of y’all enjoying this, remember, many of these people are your neighbors. Obama’s margin of victory was by people who are mooching off the government and are now mooching their health care. I imagine the majority of those losing their policies are not and were not supporters of 0bamacare, or those who passed it.

Some of our comrades are going to get sick while their insurance policies are cancelled. Some of the people who are here have lost their policies, and they needed those policies.

I knew it was going to happen, I am reading about it happening, but I surely ain’t enjoying it.

Some of our comrades are going to get sick while their insurance policies are cancelled. Some of the people who are here have lost their policies, and they needed those policies.

I knew it was going to happen, I am reading about it happening, but I surely ain’t enjoying it.

cozmo on November 14, 2013 at 8:39 AM

The only ones that I feel any sympathy for are the ones who actually got out and voted against the empty suit in the oval office. Everybody else, well let’s just say it doesn’t bother me at all that they’re reaping what they sowed. So if you voted for The Won or, in my opinion, worse if you sat the last two elections out then Too Frikkin’ Bad for you.

How would he let people keep their plans? They’re gone, no longer offered.

Oldnuke on November 14, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Which is why I don’t see the “fix” as anything as simplistic as you can keep your plan. For millions that ain’t gonna happen because it is too late. The call from the GOP should be clear and unambiguous. Kill Obamacare and we’ll talk about real healthcare reform.

The liberal round table over at Morning Joe is absolutely hilarious this morning. Mary Landrieu is explaining how her bill will show the American people are “on their minds” as they (the Democrats) show them they care about fixing this disaster. Robert Gibbs is trying to explain that her bill will remove “the treads holding the whole program together” and she’s not hearing it.

Some of our comrades are going to get sick while their insurance policies are cancelled. Some of the people who are here have lost their policies, and they needed those policies.

I knew it was going to happen, I am reading about it happening, but I surely ain’t enjoying it.

cozmo on November 14, 2013 at 8:39 AM

Martyrs to the cause. There is no joy in anyone suffering- even the parasites who support Obama. But our comrades were already offered up for suffering in order to finance a bunch of unhealthy parasites getting the exact same coverage as people who find themselves paying thousands of more for less health coverage than they had before.

Robert Gibbs is trying to explain that her bill will remove “the treads holding the whole program together” and she’s not hearing it.

Rovin on November 14, 2013 at 8:46 AM

Gibbs is right but his name isn’t going to be on any ballot in November of 2014. What Gibbs is demanding of Dems is that they take the same position as the WaPo. The productive must pay thousands more for insurance coverage and “benefits” they do not need so that parasites can get the same coverage for free.

In other words, Gibbs wants Landrieu and all Dems to run on a platform that embraces blatant wealth redistribution from the productive to the parasite class. It isn’t a winning plank when it takes food out of the mouths of the family of the payers for no other reason than Dems have declared birth control for sluts to be an inalienable right.

Obamacare defenders will say that small businesses/orgs won’t be impacted by Obamacare because the Employer Mandate only affects companies with more than 50 employees. That is simply untrue. While it is true that the Employer Mandate only applies to companies/orgs with more than 50 employees, businesses/orgs with less than 50 employees will still see their premiums ‘necessarily skyrocket,’ which will leave them with a choice of dropping coverage altogether or terminating employees and/or cutting hours in order to continue to offer health insurance.

Can’t speak for the regulars, but Landrieu’s is the “heavy hand of government forcing private enterprise to fix government’s -ups” approach.

Steve Eggleston on November 14, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Landrieu’s bill is nothing more than showboating by a desperate politician. Feinstein signed on because she knows it will go nowhere and it provides further legitimacy to the idea that Landrieu tried to “do something” about the Obamacare debacle. I wouldn’t be surprised if all the nags (Warren, Boxer, Murray, etc.) signing on as well to support their fellow female ‘rat.

Landrieu’s bill is unworkable on several key provisions- including the requirement that private insurers have to maintain the “old” plans while also complying with the new standards for all the unhealthy parasites who rushed to enroll in the exchanges. The whole funding mechanism collapses without the healthy and productive paying for everybody else. Upton’s bill isn’t much better and is also more for show than anything else.

I knew it was going to happen, I am reading about it happening, but I surely ain’t enjoying it.

cozmo on November 14, 2013 at 8:39 AM

Hate to say it but I’m with Goldberg:

If you can’t take some joy, some modicum of relief and mirth, in the unprecedentedly spectacular beclowning of the president, his administration, its enablers, and, to no small degree, liberalism itself, then you need to ask yourself why you’re following politics in the first place. Because, frankly, this has been one of the most enjoyable political moments of my lifetime. I wake up in the morning and rush to find my just-delivered newspaper with a joyful expectation of worsening news so intense, I feel like Morgan Freeman should be narrating my trek to the front lawn. Indeed, not since Dan Rather handcuffed himself to a fraudulent typewriter, hurled it into the abyss, and saw his career plummet like Ted Kennedy was behind the wheel have I enjoyed a story more.

Obamacare defenders will say that small businesses/orgs won’t be impacted by Obamacare because the Employer Mandate only affects companies with more than 50 employees. That is simply untrue. While it is true that the Employer Mandate only applies to companies/orgs with more than 50 employees, businesses/orgs with less than 50 employees will still see their premiums ‘necessarily skyrocket,’ which will leave them with a choice of dropping coverage altogether or terminating employees and/or cutting hours in order to continue to offer health insurance.

Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Isn’t this what happened to Bel Aire, KS? Suddenly they were no longer a group and folks were dropped completely for not working enough hours.

Don’t get me wrong, the the hand wringing and whining by the politicians is schadenfreudalicious.

It is the people actually losing what they had that I am referring to. Many of them didn’t want this to happen. And there is a good chance that they are really hurting because of the 0bamacare train wreck.

Don’t get me wrong, the the hand wringing and whining by the politicians is schadenfreudalicious.

It is the people actually losing what they had that I am referring to. Many of them didn’t want this to happen. And there is a good chance that they are really hurting because of the 0bamacare train wreck.

cozmo on November 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM

Bingo.

Progressives like The One are, in the end, really only good at two things; hurting people, and killing people. That’s it. It’s all they know. They tell their victims that it’s “for their own good”, and the scary part is, they may actually believe it themselves. Except for the ones who just naturally hate people, and signed on for the pleasure of being able to hurt people with no fear of consequences if they’re caught.

What makes them different from our military (whose job, as Trevor N. Dupuy once said, is “to kill people and break things”) is that progressives are all about hurting and killing people in America that they define as “our enemies’. Not “America’s” enemies -their enemies, specifically.

Hence their constant railing about “bitter clingers” and sneering disdain for “Flyover Country”.

They not only don’t care who gets hurt, they’re hoping that a lot of people do, or better yet end up dead. Remember, under their deep-eco theories, there are too many people on Earth to begin with.

What I don’t want to see, but may yet, is The One going into Double Double Down Mode. After all, he admits that he’s “good at killing people” with drones. More importantly, he seems to enjoy it.

I don’t particularly want him applying the same mentality to his “domestic enemies”. Unfortunately, I also do not expect him to submit his Great Plan to any changes. If a veto won’t stop it, my guess is he’ll go Kristallnacht on everybody he defines as “the enemy”.

After all, he’s a “community organizer”. Which is basically another way of saying “street thug”.

“We can’t have the highest law enforcement official in America defying subpoenas and deciding which laws to enforce and not enforce,” Olson said in his phone interview with Breitbart News. “And so the American people deserve answers and accountability. If he won’t resign, we will force him to resign through impeachment. Plain and simple.”

Olson must get 218 Representatives to support his resolution to pass it out of the House. Last Congress, 130 House Republicans outright called for Holder’s resignation, whereas many more signed the House resolution of “no confidence” in the attorney general that Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ) led…”

What on zoo needs to do is move our military in to take overt he insurance companies who are trying to bring down obozocare! Then force them to sell us our policies at cut rate prices! Maybe throw a few managers in jail too!

That’ll teach ‘em AND will cut COSTS all over the health care system too!

If you can’t take some joy, some modicum of relief and mirth, in the unprecedentedly spectacular beclowning of the president, his administration, its enablers, and, to no small degree, liberalism itself, then you need to ask yourself why you’re following politics in the first place. Because, frankly, this has been one of the most enjoyable political moments of my lifetime. I wake up in the morning and rush to find my just-delivered newspaper with a joyful expectation of worsening news so intense, I feel like Morgan Freeman should be narrating my trek to the front lawn. Indeed, not since Dan Rather handcuffed himself to a fraudulent typewriter, hurled it into the abyss, and saw his career plummet like Ted Kennedy was behind the wheel have I enjoyed a story more.

Bishop on November 14, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Yup.

I’m a Cleveland sports fan, so I’m well acquainted with schadenfreude when teams we hate lose on big stages. Because of that, I’m not feeling out of place in witnessing this, the implosion of Socialism aka the perverted and permutated concept of liberalism.

The liberal round table over at Morning Joe is absolutely hilarious this morning. Mary Landrieu is explaining how her bill will show the American people are “on their minds” as they (the Democrats) show them they care about fixing this disaster. Robert Gibbs is trying to explain that her bill will remove “the treads holding the whole program together” and she’s not hearing it.

Rovin on November 14, 2013 at 8:46 AM

If Gov. Bobby Jindal is term-limited, this might be a good time for him to run for the Senate.

Gosh, I wish that tar and feathering was still an option. People need to be held accountable AND punished for their abuse of power of going against the American people and intentional lies that have now been revealed.