Saturday, June 18, 2016

British support for remaining in the European Union has weakened in the wake of the murder of the pro-EU politician Jo Cox, according to an online research company Friday.

Qriously, a London-based technology start-up that gathers data and intelligence about consumers through mobile phone apps, found that backing among likely voters for Britain's EU membership has dropped to 32% from 40% before her death.

The poll was based on 1,992 British adults surveyed on June 13-16, and then 1,002 on June 17 — the day after Cox was shot and killed in northern England. The start-up claims to have held the first such survey on the topic since the lawmaker's slaying.

In fact, the rational position is to vote Leave in light of Jo Cox's murder, as it is obvious that if England votes Remain, its society will continue to become a more violent, more murderous one where politics is pursued by other means.

The same thing happened in Norway, where the popularity of the anti-immigration parties was strengthened, not weakened, after Anders Breivik's attacks on the junior members of the pro-immigration party.

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I have yet to see the link between the trial of another 15 man paki gang 'grooming' (ie raping, like Rotherham) English girls in the immediate neighborhood of Jo Cox's killing explored. Jo Cox's district was Batley and Spen. The killer grew up in Batley, and Spen to Calderdale is less than 10 miles. Calderdale is where the gang rape trial just concluded. I would be very surprised if there was no linkage what so ever. Even if the media won't touch 'another Rotherham' so close to the Brexit vote, the English may be figuring it out themselves.

The arguments for the EU are logical; trade, labor mobility, etc. Agree or disagree with the logical points, whether there will be jobs lost or gained.

I didn't hear the coverage this week, but I can imagine that it was an appeal to emotion; poor lady dying in the streets, etc. All about eliciting feelings.

These blithering idiots fail to realize that if you elicit feelings as a basis for voting, the EU engenders universal feelings of disdain. And the automatic reaction is to vote to get out.

The US political establishment has tried to steer the feelings around the Florida nightclub shooting. They are dangerously close to eliciting a feeling where if the Gays and Democrats insist on blaming me for what happened, I will gladly sit by and eat popcorn as they get shot up by the radicals that they have nurtured in our midst. Step outside the coastal areas and these guys face an armed and capable citizenry and constabulary.

Remember when the open borders loons danced when Margate Thatcher died? Did they decriminalize going to the bathroom in public in London like they did NYC & San Fran because Cox's grave could use some nitrogen? Time to have a party. Leftists are lucky other people don't try to follow suit.

Holy Mexican solipsism, Trump forced Afghani Anchor baby moslem to kill 4 mexicants one of them illegal, other 90+ victims don't matter. They obviously would have been safer in a drug cartel mass grave than an Orlando nightclub.http://www.vdare.com/articles/memo-from-mexico-moaning-mexicans-trying-to-claim-orlando-victim-status?content=buy a weapon

For most Britons I know, those are arguments AGAINST the EU. The biggest single reason for voting to get out of the EU is the 'labor mobility' of the masses of Eastern Europeans who moved to the UK and took the low-paid jobs from the Britons who used to do them.

The handful of Britons who've been able to move elsewhere in the EU to work won't outvote the millions who've either lost their jobs or seen their communities completely transformed by the influx from the EU. Or those who've seen the factories they worked at packed up and shipped to Eastern Europe so they can pay lower wages, thanks to the wonderful 'free trade' in the EU. Or those who've seen their jobs legislated out of existence by the EU, because 'free trade' apparently requires that everyone in the EU must make the same shit to EU standards or be forced out of business.

Britain has enough cucks that I wouldn't be entirely surprised if they still vote to stay, but every rational argument is for getting the hell out as soon as possible. Even the left used to oppose it for all the reasons above, until they realized it was the last, best hope for imposing socialism.

I see some French politico is now warning that Brexit would make Britain 'like Guernsey'. He presumably doesn't realize that most British people who've visited Guernsey would love to live in a Britain that was just like it (aside from the 30mph speed limit on the roads)...

That's what happens when politicians completely lose touch with the people they're supposed to serve.

I may not have the opportunity to vote for Trump but I am entitled to vote for Brexit - and I will be keen to do so if only to correct the result of our only previous referendum in 1975. It is worth remembering that a Referendum has no constitutional legitimacy for the Kingdom of England for Parliament is supreme and should Brexit prove successful The King in Parliament may simply ignore the result. British foreign policy will not change, whatever the result, but whatever that result it can in my guess-timation lead and only lead to a strengthening of Nationalism.

Off-topic, yes, but this sent me catching up on Breivik. He may actually live to see daylight, given Norway's different sentencing and confinement law. In the U.S., he'd die in prison, isolated. Unless he'd committed to the other end of the ideological spectrum, of course. In such case he'd be fully pardoned and given a tenured professorship at an Ivy League school.

Again the same old liberal hypocrisy. When the killer is a leftist or a member of a protected class its all the fault of the gun. When the Killer is a right-winger, or can be portrayed as such, then its all about the Killer's so-called politics.

As for the British exiting the EU, I'll believe it when I see it. The average Englander is even more dumb then his 'murican counter-part. I fully expect a lot of status-quo wankers to vote them into staying.

it is obvious that if England votes Remain, its society will continue to become a more violent, more murderous one where politics is pursued by other means.

Probably, but that's not why Leave is pulling ahead. At least according to the folks I speak to.

Remain had already discredited itself before that MP was killed. Their scare tactics - conjuring up every sort of disaster imaginable befalling Britain if we Leave, including terrorism, climate change and paedophiles - were so ridiculously over-the-top that they had the opposite of the intended effect.

It's pretty obvious that the murder of Jo Cox wasn't part of a sinister far-right plot or a result of Nigel Farage unveiling an anti-immigration poster or because of the "politics of hate", as some put it.

The guy who did it is a lunatic. He's not even a cogent murderer like Anders Breivik was, just a common or garden nutcase who went off his meds.

I don't think Remain is successfully selling the idea that we need to stay in the EU because a random loony killed an MP, but the media is rolling hard with that narrative so we'll see.

Mr Rational - No. But if someone is coaching him, they must be aiming for an acquittal on the ground of insanity. Because stating your name in court as "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain" is fucking mental.

Steve wrote:if someone is coaching him, they must be aiming for an acquittal on the ground of insanity.Do you think they care about that? If they can use it to tar the "Leave" camp as murderous crazies by putting those words in his mouth, he'll have been useful to them. The PTB don't care about little people like MPs.

Announcing to a court - when you're up on a murder charge - that your name is "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain" is just one teensy step above wearing Y-fronts on your head, shoving a pencil up each nose, and saying "wibble".

If there was some super secret MI5 black ops going on they'd have got him to say he's Nigel Farage or something.

dc.sunsets wrote:Winning political shifts seem to occur less by surging popularity than by demoralization of the Old Guard.

Be it Brexit or Trump, polls do a poor job revealing who will show up to vote. I will vote (a rare choice) and hope I'm surrounded by fellow travelers.

So you personally, many others here, and many millions across the country, who did not vote in the past, will vote in order to elect Trump. But not due to any possible surge in popularity. I think your observations are running into your preconceptions there.

These blithering idiots fail to realize that if you elicit feelings as a basis for voting, the EU engenders universal feelings of disdain. And the automatic reaction is to vote to get out.

And which is also why I've been reading about Raoul Wallenberg and how to build underground bunkers (think Anne Frank on an industrial scale and you may see where I am going) and thinking the time may be right to start digging.

It is quite possible both scenarios are at play here. However, these putative false flags keep backfiring. (Look at the queer gun rights group, the Pink Pistols, their membership went from 1,500 to 3,500 in less than a week) Queers are fracturing. I know one who is still staunchly anti-gun, but now wants all immigration stopped, both illegal and legal and the "ragheads" and "spics" all sent back.

The (((elites))) and ///elites\\\ are losing the plot. They simply can't massage this into the directions they want anymore. They are arrogant enough to keep trying though.

Takin' a Look wrote:However, these putative false flags keep backfiring.Maybe this is because they don't know what else to do. "It always worked before!", they lament. They can't get their heads around the fact that the public is into them and rejects the narrative behind the tactics. Since they can't conceive of anyone with their thinking outside the narrative, they're stuck.

Hopefully, we boot their asses from the seats of power before they get things figured out.

I'm encouraged by the fact that what's done in the darkness is brought out into the light of day. Trump is great for taking PC out to a ditch and shooting it. Asian, East Asian.....Pakistanis, right?

Well, there's a new day dawning.....and, yes, as Lenin said.....the GOPe is selling us the new rope for hanging ornaments from whatever is nearby that will bear the weight.

I've always considered the Spanish Civil War as a real portent for our times. You know, past a certain point.....there's no longer any reason to speak to enemies of a decent society. That's when small scale killings begin to show up. Vox has plainly spoken about it.

As my betters have it, we don't care anymore. Call me a racist? Please.....meaningless words. So, as we can clearly see.....the enemies of life and liberty self identify.

One of the big killers in a civil war is Starvation. Would you feed a starving feminist?

Metamoros>Before, everyone believed in the standard narratives. Now, especially with the rise of Trump, people specifically do not believe it if pushed by the media and Trump's enemies.

Interesting point, and I think generally accurate to at least an extent. Why have the Lügenpresse been able to control and spin the story for so long though, apart from the rather obvious MPAI explanation? It's not as if those who laughably refer to themselves as 'journalists' have been anything other than lying propagandists for decades running.

Indeed! One can hope. They aren't as smart and cunning as they like to make themselves out to be. Most of their minions are now more narcissistic and faggy than the most open feminine queer of yester-year.

@ Gen. Kong I recognize your style, you used to post on SBPDL I believe. I always thought you were ahead of the game.

Anyways, yes, MPAI because most people are basically "good" in the sense they want to create or be part of something greater, a hope for the future. We are in an age where that is being taken away as well as the basics of life. A Fourth Turning as Strauss and Howe would state. The Noosphere is infected with unease, terrible tension.

All the "head in the sand, doubling-down" is starting to prove futile.

Just think, did you imagine even a year ago that jews, both individual and organizations, would be so foolish as to "reclaim" the ((()))?

It is quite possible both scenarios are at play here. However, these putative false flags keep backfiring. (Look at the queer gun rights group, the Pink Pistols, their membership went from 1,500 to 3,500 in less than a week) Queers are fracturing. I know one who is still staunchly anti-gun, but now wants all immigration stopped, both illegal and legal and the "ragheads" and "spics" all sent back.

The (((elites))) and ///elites\\\ are losing the plot. They simply can't massage this into the directions they want anymore. They are arrogant enough to keep trying though.

We may be seeing factional warfare between different group of Intel elites. One group pulls off a sloppy Sandy Hook or a goofball Boston Marathon, another group outs it in a limited hangout sort of way. They are losing the plot because it is non-computable anymore. The Gladio model isn't working so good because internet. So they jockey for position in a nearly free for all. Kong, concur?

Continuing prior. Sandy Hook might have been the last hurrah for the "drill goes live" model. Too many people inside and out are hip to it anymore. The producers chintzed out with the B-list actors and cuts in the set design, like leaving out the medvac choppers. 911 was probably the zenith for that type of production and even it had continuity and casting issues. Now they have to fall back to the simpler Port Arthur style rain dance and hope for the best.

Precisely! I think Gen. Kong will concur, while both sets of elites agree we are goyim, they aren't lovey-dovey with each other on the right way to farm us. Things are coming down to the wire and a fuck-ton of "goyim" are wising up. It's too many variables.

Interesting point, and I think generally accurate to at least an extent. Why have the Lügenpresse been able to control and spin the story for so long though, apart from the rather obvious MPAI explanation?---

My WAG is that people were so busy working and doing their thing and not paying attention. But now we have something like 100+ million out of the labor force. If those same people are now paying closer attention to what is happening, and spreading the word to their clueless friends and family, it might be having an exponential effect.

The truth is, it doesn't matter anymore whether it's true or not, it's all a pack of lies being sold to us. We see too many discrepancies and shills trying to shout us down or scold us with emotional manipulation, we.don't.care.

Precisely! I think Gen. Kong will concur, while both sets of elites agree we are goyim, they aren't lovey-dovey with each other on the right way to farm us. Things are coming down to the wire and a fuck-ton of "goyim" are wising up. It's too many variables.

Ok so it's ///goyim\\\? Then //[aztec]\\ with the sacrificial temple on top? )))self-hating eskimo(((? Too many variables indeed. There's more than two groups and various members switch hit. As a fer instance guess, {Ft. Hood, Orlando, Paris, Boston} and {Sandy Hook, 911, OKC, Aurora}.

My WAG is that people were so busy working and doing their thing and not paying attention. But now we have something like 100+ million out of the labor force. If those same people are now paying closer attention to what is happening, and spreading the word to their clueless friends and family, it might be having an exponential effect

And I agree, there are dozens of factions, switch-hitters amongst the elites, both ((())) and the ///\\\. I tend to focus on jews/khazarians because research shows they make up as much as 45% of elites. That is staggering for an ethnic group that only makes up 0.01 of global population. That doesn't mean I disregard the other 55%.

The 911 call for the gator attack has been released, why not the afghani moslem gay bar shooter?

that offers a free Glock, which could be very triggering for Nate!

Is Nate jewish? a free glock would be as hard to turn down as free bacon. In fact some gun stores require people to eat bacon before they sell guns.

Britain if we Leave, including terrorism, climate change and paedophiles - were so ridiculously over-the-top that they had the opposite

Did they really say there would be less terror and child rape if the UK stays? Do they really think people don't know who does it?

If there was some super secret MI5 black ops going on they'd have got him to say he's Nigel Farage

Do they not know how good that would work out for Nigel Farage?

One of the big killers in a civil war is Starvation. Would you feed a starving feminist?

After 6 months a starving feminist might look like a normal woman.

Why have the Lügenpresse been able to control and spin the story for so long though, apart from the rather obvious MPAI explanation?

I agree people are too busy working because of all that is taken from their paychecks to feed Latrina's 21 illegitimate crack babies. People barely have time to talk to their kids much less counter COMMON CORE bs.

And I agree, there are dozens of factions, switch-hitters amongst the elites, both ((())) and the ///\\\.

I tend to focus on jews/khazarians because research shows they make up as much as 45% of elites. That is staggering for an ethnic group that only makes up 0.01 of global population. That doesn't mean I disregard the other 55%.

You might enjoy Miles Mathis http://mileswmathis.com/updates.html latest http://mileswmathis.com/england.pdf I'm not qualified to endorse it, especially with words like "everything", but it's interesting-

Anna Jagiellon was the sister of Catherine Jagiellon, who became Queen of Sweden and mother of Sigismund III Vasa. This is further indication that everything was being controlled by Jewish interests in all those countries back to the 1500s. We will look at this again below. But first to England. The throne of England was overtaken through Marie de' Medici, who married Henry of Navarre. You will say he was Henry IV of France, but pay attention.

It is shocking to me that Remain has not taken a commanding lead in light of the murder of Jo Cox. It reminds me of how Donald Trump kept winning primaries in spite of scandalous comment after scandalous comment. I guess I just don't understand the electorate anymore.

Lmao!!! The only queer around here I know of is BGKB and I love him (no homo) he makes Milo Yannipoulos look like a shitlib.

To be fair if I made a public appearances like he does there might not be a need for fake blood. I would have to wear body armor and keep quick clot handy instead of wearing a $10k outfit. I don't know of any state nursing boards that would be ok with someone offering to carry out lawful executions at states that can't get the death penalty drugs, by identifying as a black doctor before computerized pharmacies.

You know, the drop in support for Remain, and rise in Brexit support (not the same thing, mind you), sort of made me stop and think. Then it hit me. Many of the people who support teh stupid are swayed by violence. I actually think it is as simple as that. They are risk adverse, so when they see one of their birds go down... for that reason or not... they call it a bad omen and change course. Oh, and often being Godless, they are left with little more than superstition.

That's my story, and I'm sticking with it. Will not recant. And I'm glad she got it, if that won't change elite politics at all. They'll just find another islamic shill to replace it with.

Same thing happened in 2002 elections after Paul Wellstone died. They tried to turn his funeral into a pep rally for the Democrats, and it merely served to disgust ordinary Americans, who went R in overwhelming numbers (not that it did us any good).

This is why I chuckle everytime you post. You are one of the biggest RealTalkers on here.

I admit I would probably need a deal to keep my ID a secret if I Garroted moslems, lawfully given the death penalty, in US & UK while wearing a Luchador mask on live TV. That would go over as well as a rebuttal to men earning more than women for the """same"""" work, in a female majority field( the secret is do the same work as a healthcare traveler temp at a place women have been raped in the parking lot).

"Don't behead a British soldier in broad daylight on the streets of London or El Grande Guapo Fagotto will send you to hell with bacon bits"

But I do know a STR8 married woman RN that's a prepper purposely growing hemlock, she even offered to teach other women how to shoot. I am not even that hardcore, anything growing near hemlock might pick up some of its poison.

I'm all for Brexit, and I've been wondering "Why the heck would someone vote Remain?"There are two reasons I can think of. One reason is a natural inclination against major change. Another--and despicable reason--is that some benefit from the current state of affairs. They are, for example, government workers, and those who benefit from crony capitalism (big banks and big business). The European Union is crony capitalism on an trans-European scale.

LonestarWhacko wrote:One of the big killers in a civil war is Starvation. Would you feed a starving feminist?I can think of conditions under which I would feed a starving feminist. But they would have to be either young and fertile, or willing and able to literally work in chains to grow that food to feed others more worthy. Either way... complete submission required.

"Announcing to a court - when you're up on a murder charge - that your name is "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain" is just one teensy step above wearing Y-fronts on your head, shoving a pencil up each nose, and saying "wibble"."

"Announcing to a court - when you're up on a murder charge - that your name is "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain" is just one teensy step above wearing Y-fronts on your head, shoving a pencil up each nose, and saying "wibble"."

A cunning plan indeed.

Would "Give me liberty or give me death" be a better name for him? Vox did mention in passing, maybe once or twice, that if #altright is subdued the next step will be the ultranationalists.

"In fact, the rational position is to vote Leave in light of Jo Cox's murder, as it is obvious that if England votes Remain, its society will continue to become a more violent, more murderous one where politics is pursued by other means."

It's not obvious at all. In fact, if the "leave" hooligans can only muster one bit of violence in what is supposed to be their greatest moment, then I'd say nothing like what you predict is obvious.

"It's not obvious at all. In fact, if the "leave" hooligans can only muster one bit of violence in what is supposed to be their greatest moment, then I'd say nothing like what you predict is obvious."Oh, i'ts obvious that you are one pitiful sumbitch.Brexit,NOW.

I think you have to look at the basic facts beginning with "Why would anyone want to kill a junior member of Parliament?" Jo Cox was a rookie with not much standing despite the posthumous accolades. New to the job, she had little experience and little clout. So just what would her murder really be about? Was she 'set up' as a martry by her own to further the cause of REMAIN, or was it something else she was involved with? To me, it just doesn't make sense to kill her in the name of the BREXIT campaign when there are so many other big name targets.

As for the reaction in the so-called polls, I have to give credit to the citizens who "see" through the acts of the "elites" to try to manipulate the vote. Imagine what it is like when the press says that those on the leave side are poor, uneducated, jobless peasants who don't know anything. Wow! Talk about insulting. Just like when the US media talks about America's fly-over country. They reach too far in their angst to protect their lofty positions. I hope they get their arses handed to them.

[Because, don't you know, in those (((People's))) Revolutions of the 20th Century, we goyim weren't ever considered people at all]Aye...I get your drift. I also doubt that the big banks would be funding us as they did the Bolshevik Revolution.

I wonder how much egalitarian bullshit played a roll in her death. Why on Earth would a woman try to get involved in an altercation involving men? The average teenage boy can beat the average female of any age to death with his bare hands.

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