as I promised, here is one of those s shaped elms. Unfortunately after searching the 2 forums for over half an hour, I couldn't find the old image of the tree. It may be in a response to Alexandra.So until I find it this will have to do.

As I typed a Chinese elm with an s problem, airlayered and now starting over as two trees. I kept the lower part in the black pot, the top half went to friend. I will keep you up to date as the tree/s develop.Khaimraj

Khaimraj,,,Thank you for your posting this air layer of this elm...I never tried doing one but i do have a elm just like that and seeing it worked like it did,,,I WILL start mine in the spring..thankyou very much john