Is LEED Lip Stick on a Pig? - Home Energy Pros2015-08-02T23:04:58Zhttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/forum/topics/is-leed-lip-stick-on-a-pig?commentId=6069565%3AComment%3A76539&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYou aint seen nothen-one of t…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2012-02-11:6069565:Comment:769552012-02-11T01:24:23.592ZWilliam H Nickersonhttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/WilliamHNickerson
<p>You aint seen nothen-one of the first LEED cert.projects was a 60 car 'PERSONAL GARAGE!'for some Saudi king.A freakin garage!But wait,Obama just ordered the DOD and ASHRAE to do feasability study on the LEED projects they produced.When I read that I heard the screech of thousand Herman Miller office chair seat covers get stretched by butt cheeks.</p>
<p>You aint seen nothen-one of the first LEED cert.projects was a 60 car 'PERSONAL GARAGE!'for some Saudi king.A freakin garage!But wait,Obama just ordered the DOD and ASHRAE to do feasability study on the LEED projects they produced.When I read that I heard the screech of thousand Herman Miller office chair seat covers get stretched by butt cheeks.</p> What I keep looking at in you…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2012-02-08:6069565:Comment:766712012-02-08T17:01:10.246ZCameron Taylorhttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/CameronTaylor
<p>What I keep looking at in your reference to the large LEED certified house in NY is the ratio of building size to normalized occupancy rate. Five stories, two people.</p>
<p>One can go on at length about hitting the LEED biggies like embodied energy reduction, site selection, etc. etc. And one can state, as you did, that a person that has that kind of money should have the right to build a house that size for just two people. Perhaps.</p>
<p>Problem is, ALL of us on this planet share the…</p>
<p>What I keep looking at in your reference to the large LEED certified house in NY is the ratio of building size to normalized occupancy rate. Five stories, two people.</p>
<p>One can go on at length about hitting the LEED biggies like embodied energy reduction, site selection, etc. etc. And one can state, as you did, that a person that has that kind of money should have the right to build a house that size for just two people. Perhaps.</p>
<p>Problem is, ALL of us on this planet share the same sources for energy. If our energy base remains firmly finite, a five story house with a waterfall in it for just two people strikes me as obscene, LEED cert be damned. I can't be convinced a five story house for two people has an equivalent or less of an energy consumption footprint than my 1,800 square foot single story house for two people. Sheer physics do not favor that comparision being possible.</p>
<p>What would impress me is if a five story house for two people was a net zero house. Go crazy with all the LEED high points on earth friendly construction practices and material choices, recycling, etc., but how about encouraging a structure that isn't a 30+ year leech on the grid?</p> Thanks for pointing it out it…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2012-02-05:6069565:Comment:765472012-02-05T15:45:08.271ZGlen Gallohttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/GlenGallo
<p>Thanks for pointing it out it was not deliberate more of a Freudian slip that I glanced over while editing. It has been corrected.It does not detract from my message however. Energy Efficiency is a key element of LEED, Energy is the first E in the acronym and seem to imply using it wisely. I do not know much about the building other than my short viewing and subsequent brief meltdown. I would question as to whether a waterfall indoors is a water conservation issue and…</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing it out it was not deliberate more of a Freudian slip that I glanced over while editing. It has been corrected.It does not detract from my message however. Energy Efficiency is a key element of LEED, Energy is the first E in the acronym and seem to imply using it wisely. I do not know much about the building other than my short viewing and subsequent brief meltdown. I would question as to whether a waterfall indoors is a water conservation issue and potential environmental health hazard. Certainly the moisture could be mitigated through ventilation and humidity control adding the energy footprint. Failure of these systems in either function or operation could result in durability issues.</p> You're bolder than I am, unle…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2012-02-04:6069565:Comment:764472012-02-04T23:43:35.998ZDavid Eggletonhttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/DavidEggleton
<p>You're bolder than I am, unless you know Glen.</p>
<p>Less embodied energy in the building process and outcome might justify that word's presence in the full name, but as we three seem to agree, energy efficiency (throughout the life) of the building matters a great deal, and probably more.</p>
<p>You're bolder than I am, unless you know Glen.</p>
<p>Less embodied energy in the building process and outcome might justify that word's presence in the full name, but as we three seem to agree, energy efficiency (throughout the life) of the building matters a great deal, and probably more.</p> I think Glen knows what LEED…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2012-02-04:6069565:Comment:765392012-02-04T22:56:48.722ZDavid Meilandhttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/DavidMeiland
<p>I think Glen knows what LEED stands for, and was suggesting it should be changed to remove the word "energy".</p>
<p>I think Glen knows what LEED stands for, and was suggesting it should be changed to remove the word "energy".</p> LEED = Leadership in Energy a…tag:homeenergypros.lbl.gov,2012-02-04:6069565:Comment:766132012-02-04T20:10:59.897ZDavid Eggletonhttp://homeenergypros.lbl.gov/profile/DavidEggleton
<p>LEED = <span>Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design, but I think the points(!) you make survive the correction.</span></p>
<p>LEED = <span>Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design, but I think the points(!) you make survive the correction.</span></p>