The predicted tropical rain has arrived and … spoiled the race. After few changes between wet and intermediate tyres the heavy rain arrived and the race was red flagged with 23 laps to go. Jenson Button won the second race in the row, ahead of Timo Glock and Nick Heidfeld. Button also scored a hattrick of pole position, fastest lap and the race win. However as the race ended before 75% of the full race distance, only half the poits will be awarded. Moving the race start to 5pm was not that smart idea after all …

Question: if the victory system went on its imposition, could the race leader have a HALF-win??? How is it possible that they seek to set this new scoring system? Obviously a winner is always a winner, and would be rather unfair to value he’s incomplete work that much.

With all due respect, We were expecting this. I was hoping for it. It in someways forced the gamble of Raikkonen. Done a lap or two later he may have won. Tires are of major importance. If I had any say, I would recommend a “super”-wet tire or even an amphibious-tire.

Rain is part of life and F1 needs to set the standard.

And lighting is also the same. I recommend moving this race and Ausralia to be moved forward a half hour next year to force twilight conditions even more.

Cheers to Webber for taking the lead for the drivers during the red-flag period and special thanks to Button for bringing his engineer to the podium. What a great race.

I do think the same, this weblog recovers the friendly way, and this is what helps people to feel closer and participative. Personally I believe that F1Wolf is a great guy! I haven’t spent ages within a community like this one or writing about my experiences elsewhere, but I feel myself home, he made it pretty easy for me to share my opinion here and spread my experiences and thoughts (sometimes this is really intimae), and I feel being considered helpful in return many times. I’m always glad he takes so much time of his private life, but he may enjoy the same as we do

Question 2: How is it possible that after all, being the race winner is rewarded with a lower difference towards the 2nd classified and the rest of drivers in the points, simply getting half of the points when not exceeding the 75% of the race makes automatically everybody over 1st gets a benefit being much closer in the driver’s World Championship table (by one point, or higher as the score achieved gets lower) except those ones scoring 0.5 (Rosberg). How is it possible?

Here’s an example of the situation affecting the drivers results table:

a) If the race develops in normal conditions and is fully raced or raced over the 75% of the distance:

Yup Can’t say I’m unhappy with the results, the race itself was very exciting and full of action. Disappointed with what happened to Rosberg yes, he lost the most of all maybe, but this not due the point system applied today, due the strategy which the team followed :S But almost everybody has mistaken the strategy this weekend HAHA

yes, almost everybody, but the best ones were at Ferrari … Massa’s qualifying, then Raikkonen’s wet tyres on dry track … no wonder they have 0 points after two races. When it came to strategy, Ferrari used to be almost foolproof, now they are foolish … where is Ross Brawn ? oh, well, he is busy winning races but not for Ferrari any more

Let me suggest this – your “a)” results would never have happened in a 56 lap race. Button would not have won. Kimi Raikkonen or Rosberg would have (possibly). The supposed superiority of Brawn could have been squelched. Rosberg, Trulli, and several others are true contenders. Vettel could have won this race. It was the rain that killed him on a freak spin where he stalled…

The Brawn superiority is a figment of the imagination. The F1 season is a long one, Barrichello is clearly a great driver. His years in F1 prove that. But his car isn’t necessarily that great.

Look at what they were saying before the race. “Rain makes it a lottery.” That happened. It’s a crap shoot, Brother.

My regret was only about the points system applied in the case the 75% of the grand prix isn’t raced. We saw it for 4 times in the history only (including today), but I guess every time that happened, some kind of wild discussion because of that happened… Even I suspect that not everybody may be happy with the results today. In other hand, I think that everybody may be happy for having stopped the race and later suspended it.

What I don’t like in this scoring is simple to explain, it’s not really fair the proportion of points that each driver receives, even if they receive just the half of points which use to get. The explanation is just mathematic, it’s known by everybody that a large number divided by 2 decrease more than a little number divided by 2. So it’s more extreme the division on the score of first place, 10 points, than the one which ends in eighth place, rewarded with a single point. Also I’m not fully happy with the differences on the points, the first classified always lose the points margin which prime his triumph.

Other results than these which we had are suggestion and speculation, as the ending results only will be like they have been today. I can’t regret about what happened Moreover it has been a really exciting race, but I pity that it ended so fast… Anyway, it left us some funny images at the end, and the feeling that the FIA stewards sometimes don’t have common sense and are too slow. The ending solution of driving behind the safety car is the same as just ending the race, the only difference are driver’s strategies which could still need to stop one more time to refuel and that would send them to the back, but maybe could have the opportunity to set the fastest lap So there was no need to make it so long to finish the race, that’s only wrong for spectators (but they know where they have gone, which conditions use to be there and that unpredicted events can always happen), for me it was obvious that the present conditions couldn’t allow more racing even if the track surprisingly dried in few minutes, there wasn’t enough light for some more “theatre”.

Ending my opinion view, I’d like to say that I liked the rebirth of Honda as Brawn GP, but I truly don’t support them They could fail to win this GP or do a new massacre as they did in Melbourne. Anyway, it’s unlikely that they win so easily in every GP, someday the results may change or we can finally say that Ross Brawn is touched by the had of “God”.

I lost some data in my brain HAHA And I should say it happened 5 times including Sepang, I had clear in mind Spain 75, Monaco 84, Adelaide 91 and sepand 2009, but apparently forgot the events of Austria’s Ostereichring GP the 1975 too.

Well, I’m not really an expert of all that, but many thanks I’m too young for knowing many past events, sometimes I manage to forget even those which are not that far away! As what I ate yesterday for dinner… HAHA

But my interest keeps me informed, watching some videos, reading news and articles (to me doesn’t matter if they’re new or very old) and trying to understand how the sport develops, and this is done also knowing its history

“The explanation is just mathematic, it’s known by everybody that a large number divided by 2 decrease more than a little number divided by 2. So it’s more extreme the division on the score of first place, 10 points, than the one which ends in eighth place, rewarded with a single point. Also I’m not fully happy with the differences on the points, the first classified always lose the points margin which prime his triumph.”

I hear you. Should have been done more on a percentage basis. That’s correct. But OPEC does this with their quotas and it still doesn’t solve anything.

But wait til after China. It won’t seem like anything. It’s a long season. There will be more penalties and whatnot.

“I can’t regret about what happened Moreover it has been a really exciting race, but I pity that it ended so fast… Anyway, it left us some funny images at the end, and the feeling that the FIA stewards sometimes don’t have common sense and are too slow. The ending solution of driving behind the safety car is the same as just ending the race”

Totally agree. F1 needs to have a better set of rules regarding rain. They don’t deal with it because they figure it is so rare. Malaysia will be the clue. Personally, I think cars should be bulit like boats or not race in Malaysia.

My wife today was just joking, but she came with the idea of build some oars

Well, I’m not really sure but the solution to heavy rain could be skirts maybe, they would keep grip by providing ground effect even on a liquid layer, the driving would still be slippery, but the downfore produced by this solution would provoke a huge weight which can help the tires to stick more to the track, from what I’m not sure is that the skirts produce high downfore with higher speeds, then how to make it work then? No idea… This is not a technical forum and won’t keep twisting everybody’s head, just it’s proper to say that F1 is not a kind of category thought for having such showers… The tires which could allow some fast racing with rain still don’t exist for a racing car, I think for now only motorbikes count with reliable tires which provide good speed in slippery conditions.

That’s hilarious. On a serious note, You and your wife should volunteer for US Army and plea for service on the “planning staff.” We might be able to make some progress in Iraq and Afghanistan with minds like yours on the team.

Aaah. Don’t bother. Your phone is gonna be ringing off the hook soon from Richard Branson, Briatore, and those guys.

You are a lucky man to have a wife like that. No wonder you are so good.

It’s widely said and believed that the Toleman’s driver could have reached he’s first victory in the streets of Monte-Carlo that day, because Prost was getting caught almost moments before the race end, and in the final lap overtook Prost in the start straight (when the race was stopped with red flag on lap 32), this driver was Senna. But the official results of that race were taken from lap 31 (last lap completed by all the remaining drivers), as the rules specify that season. Some think that this was made to protect Prost’s victory from an unknown driver which was Ayrton Senna, it was Jacky Ickx who made the controversial decision to stop the race due to ‘heavy rain’, but in that moment rain wasn’t as strong as before… And all that seemed to protect also the victory of a TAG engine, provided by Porshe, company for which Ickx was an employee. As result of all that Ickx was suspended as race control

Some people said that I have entu in the beginning, but I would rather say that I’m borring comparing myself to you Your kind of excitement may be healthy, because you look a very happy guy HEHE Should I supose that you’re from the states?

About me can say that I’m a 25 year-old Spanyard. You can know more about me and my interests in my club’s page at F1Wolf Club: http://f1wolf.ning.com/profile/Kotenok. You’re free to message me there over there with any opinion or questions I don’t know if we should bomb these posts with some topics which are not really related to the content.