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08-02-2014 02:50 AM

SloopJonB

Re: What kind of work do you do to finance your sailing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackdale

As a retired high school teacher I must be in a minority. One of my best writers became a welder so that he could have time to write.

I encouraged any post secondary education, especially the trades. I want the gas fitter who plumbs my house to be really smart.

In my experience, that would definitely put you in the minority Jack. In my day, academics were the ONLY really acceptable education path - not going to college was perceived as failure.

Maybe having an RSM for a father gave you a different perspective. My dad had a PhD. and my sister a Ba. but I only took courses I was interested in. My folks were very upset about it until I talked my way into a job with IBM, back when that was real Buck Rogers stuff.

In my case, universities didn't really offer anything I was interested in and I wasn't going to spend 4 years or more getting high level resume entries.

My oldest childhood friend spent 12 years in college, becoming a double PhD in psychology. At this age he has doubts he made the right decision. Certainly from a financial perspective he didn't - I earned good money for those 12 years while he just spent on college. He never caught up.

It's far more important to learn something you like to do for work rather than getting the aforementioned resume entry because "it's simply expected".

08-02-2014 02:39 AM

SloopJonB

Re: What kind of work do you do to finance your sailing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackdale

As a retired high school teacher I must be in a minority. One of my best writers became a welder so that he could have time to write.

I encouraged any post secondary education, especially the trades. I want the gas fitter who plumbs my house to be really smart.

In my experience, that would definitely put you in the minority Jack. In my day, academics were the ONLY really acceptable education path - not going to college was perceived as failure.

08-02-2014 02:32 AM

Capt Len

Re: What kind of work do you do to finance your sailing?

When I taught (shop) in mill towns many of my students had no use or respect for education. They couldn't wait to get sweeping floors at the pulp mill or sawmill and eager to tell me how they'd make more money than I. When I moved to upper suburbia on the Saanich peninsula the going rage was sport jocks leading to university. 35 years and I still get visits from my students. One a high liner fisherman, another runs a charter/taxi boat company,several others own high end residential housing companies. One is a male nurse (don't know where that came from) I taught wood work , house construction and draughting but above all ,attitude. Proud of it.

08-01-2014 06:57 PM

killarney_sailor

Re: What kind of work do you do to finance your sailing?

Another retired teacher, it is an interesting problem. I used to teach in an inner city school (even though it was in the suburbs) and spent much of my time telling kids that they could go to university if they wanted to. Then I switched to an upper-middle class area with many immigrant parents who stressed university from day one of the kid's life. The problem there was that every kid had to go to university no matter what their interests and abilities were. I think it may be changing though (slowly) as parents are starting to realize that there are a lot of unemployed (or underemployed) teachers, accountants, lawyers, etc out there.

08-01-2014 06:51 PM

jackdale

Re: What kind of work do you do to finance your sailing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SloopJonB

That's been going on a lot longer than 25 years. Everyone in education has a degree and the vast majority of them are education snobs. The general attitude is the same now as it was in the 60's - trades are only a default for those who can't cut it in academia, not a "choice" as such. Heading for the trades is tantamount to riding on the short bus.

The sweet irony is that most skilled trades people make a lot more money than teachers and with a lot less stress too.

When I had hardwood floors laid in my house a few years ago, the thirty something guy who laid them made multiples of 6 figures annually over the preceding few years - over $300K one year.

As a retired high school teacher I must be in a minority. One of my best writers became a welder so that he could have time to write.

I encouraged any post secondary education, especially the trades. I want the gas fitter who plumbs my house to be really smart.

08-01-2014 06:15 PM

SloopJonB

Re: What kind of work do you do to finance your sailing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinosdad

if anyone here is a high school guidance councilor I want to thank you from the bottom of my bourbon glass for telling the last 25 years worth of high school students they better go to college and forget working in a skilled trade,

That's been going on a lot longer than 25 years. Everyone in education has a degree and the vast majority of them are education snobs. The general attitude is the same now as it was in the 60's - trades are only a default for those who can't cut it in academia, not a "choice" as such. Heading for the trades is tantamount to riding on the short bus.

The sweet irony is that most skilled trades people make a lot more money than teachers and with a lot less stress too.

When I had hardwood floors laid in my house a few years ago, the thirty something guy who laid them made multiples of 6 figures annually over the preceding few years - over $300K one year.

08-01-2014 05:25 PM

saldrich

Re: What kind of work do you do to finance your sailing?

Used to do construction and telephone company work.

08-01-2014 01:04 AM

Rhapsody-NS27

Re: What kind of work do you do to finance your sailing?

I'm Active Duty Army.

Had the savings to buy my boat. Now starting a refit period which will happen as funds are available.

Few more years to retirement, then I can move on to doing something else.

07-31-2014 05:11 PM

dinosdad

Re: What kind of work do you do to finance your sailing?

I married well! Couple that with my job as a tool and die maker ( if anyone here is a high school guidance councilor I want to thank you from the bottom of my bourbon glass for telling the last 25 years worth of high school students they better go to college and forget working in a skilled trade, there is such a shortage of people in my field the signs for help wanted in frt of the shops
Have to be repainted they've been their so long!) and most important,
Don't keep up with the jones, keep up with yourself!

07-31-2014 04:58 PM

capttb

Re: What kind of work do you do to finance your sailing?

Quote:

dehydrate it using five Ron Popeil Food Dehydrators

That's your problem, you want "cure" the product, not make it into jerky, no wonder sales are down.

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