TOPEKA  The State Objections Board brought the issue of President Barack Obamas eligibility to be on Kansas ballots to a swift end Monday morning.

After accepting several records related to Obamas birth in Hawaii, Mark Dugan, Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyers chief of staff, moved to overrule the objection and close the boards meeting.

The boards unanimous vote brings an end to an objection raised by Manhattan resident Joe Montgomery, who said Obama shouldnt be on Kansas ballots and isnt qualified to be president because his parents were not both born in the United States.

Don't be surprised, Kansas did provide US with Kathleen Seibulus. (sp) Among a few other big government politicians. But I might add may God bless those hard working farmers... Remember all that Sprint that occupies a good portion of one of the riches counties in America, Johnson County, KS is led by liberals and Clinton soccer moms.

Kris Kobach has had it pointed out to him by Attorney Larry Klayman that HI registrar Alvin Onaka declined to verify that the White House image is a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file” - and thus confirms that it is NOT. I will be very interested to see what evidence Kobach has that contradicts Onaka’s prior disclosure - or why any contradictory disclosure by Onaka at this point wouldn’t simply require an investigation to see which of the mutually-exclusive legal claims made by Onaka is actually correct. Regardless of what Onaka may or may not have provided Kobach, Obama has AT BEST 2 contradictory claims from Hawaii regarding the validity of his birth record.

If Kobach was given something that duplicates the MDEC verification - simple verification that the birth claims on the White House BC match the birth claims on the (non-valid) BC in Hawaii.... then Obama doesn’t have ANYTHING to contradict Onaka’s disclosure of a non-valid record. And Kobach’s comment makes it seem like that is what he received from Onaka, if anything.

No matter how corrupt you may already think Obama is, this will shock you.

Security breaches at the State Dept. to delete, alter, or build files for Obama.

Some files were completely obliterated like his passport, birth certificate, school records, mother’s passport, marriage & divorce records, school yearbooks, and INS records.

Some were built, like a Selective Service file and a new passport. Some forged like the birth certificate. Mostly with the help of John Brennan, an ex-CIA man with access to the files. He still works for Obama as his assistant.

Obama’s close ties to FactCheck. His multiple visits to Kenya. The murdered informant.

"Kobach said today that hes convinced that Obamas birth certificate on the White House website matches the certified copy from the Hawaii Department of Health."

I don't suppose the Kansan peons get to see any proof or are they to rely only on Kobach's beliefs?

I can't imagine how a person with any character (especially a rock-ribbed conservative/sarc) at all could sleep at night participating in this bogus charade. And why bother to have Bar Associations? They don't do anything and really aren't needed any longer.

After accepting several records related to Obamas birth in Hawaii, Mark Dugan, Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyers chief of staff, moved to overrule the objection and close the boards meeting.

What records where accepted?

[Secretary of State] Kobach said today that hes convinced that Obamas birth certificate on the White House website matches the certified copy from the Hawaii Department of Health.

Kobach seems to be stating that Kansas has received a certified copy from the Hawaii Department of Health. viz "the certified copy".

This makes his "convinced" comment rather odd. Why not a simple declaratory, "the WH BC PDF matches the certified copy"? What is there to be convinced about, either it matches or it doesn't.

Moreover, "matching" is irrelevant. A certified "true and correct copy" is what is needed. The fact that Kobach has made no direct mention of a certified "true and correct copy" tells us everything.

If Kansas had a such a certified copy we wouldn't be hearing about Kobach being "convinced", would we? We wouldn't be hearing that the WH BC PDF "matches", would we? We would be hearing about the certified "true and correct copy" received from HI DOH.

I think it’s funny that this guy spent years of his life on higher education, law school, teaching law, and then elected office just to throw “all that learnin’ away” by using his “belief” as some sort of legal proof.

Dude, you could have skipped all that work at law school and just cut to the chase...your beliefs trump any true legal analysis or documents.

Obama just threw all your hard work under the bus. LOL

I tell ya, I never cease to be amazed at what people won’t sacrifice for King Putt.

“Secretary Kobach received his bachelor of arts degree with highest distinction from Harvard University in 1988. He graduated at the top of his class in the Harvard Government Department. In 1988, the British government awarded him a Marshall Scholarship, which took him to England for post-graduate study. In 1992 he received his doctorate in Political Science from Oxford University. In 1995 he received his J.D. from Yale Law School. While at Yale, he taught undergraduates in the Yale Political Science Department, and in 1994 he won the Prize Teaching Fellowship, an award based on student nominations and faculty review. He also served as notes development editor on the Yale Law Journal.”

That for me settles the issue, he said. It says that he meets the natural born citizen qualification./I>

That settles nothing if all he looked as was something "related" to the birth and not the real bc. Orly should have given them a copy of the SR511 committee paper on McCain's vetting that Obama signed stating that the concensus was the definition of NBC also included TWO US CITIZEN PARENTS.

I dont know but the susan daniels affidavit is a completely differ issue than the BC.. It is a Idenity theft issue and according to the laws she states in the affidavit, she should have standing— I’d like to know how that one turns out

Original objector to Obamas candidacy Joseph Montgomery withdrew his objection under duress. It was widely published that he was under duress. He, his family and co-workers were harassed with e-mails and phone calls.

I take this as just another case where elected or appointed government people can do/will do whatever suits their fancy. Been there inside and out. Once in power all people are potential products to be bought by specific interests.

I doubt he got anything. They announced that they were taking this matter under consideration last Thursday. Friday they announced they're waiting for confirmation from Hawaii. Today they announced they're satisfied Obama is a natural born citizen. The odds that they got anything from Hawaii in that short a period of time, assuming they requested anything to begin with, is zero.

Someone, probably the Romney campaign since he's an advisor for them on immigration, likely told him to drop it before the ridicule got too loud.

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posted on 09/17/2012 1:03:57 PM PDT
by Delhi Rebels
(There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)

Since Romneys dad was born in Mexico, this makes no sense to me. Grandparents have whay to do with it?

I didn't think it made any sense to you because you don't even understand what his grandparents have to do with it.

When you are born outside of the United States to U.S. citizens then you have U.S. citizenship at birth. George Romney was born to U.S. citizens, from Utah, that were living in a Mormon church colony in Chihuahua, Mexico. So he was born a U.S. citizen at birth. According to Mexican law at the time, he never had Mexican citizenship because he was born to American parents. Mexico abided by versions of jus sanguinis citizenship, Latin for right of blood, with birthright citizenship only granted to children born to citizens of Mexico. So, if he could not claim Mexican citizenship, would he have no citizenship at all? There were some who claimed that he was not a natural born citizen because he was not born on U.S. soil. So maybe he wasnt eligible for President, but Mitt Romney was born in Detroit to two U.S. citizens and is definitely a natural born U.S. citizen.

Sounds to me like Kobach is saying he’s convinced that the WH image matches the certified copy that Hawaii sent Obama. But like you say, the word “convinced” means that he’s not coming right out and saying it. He’s saying that he believes it matches, not that he’s been told it matches. So if he’s been told something, it’s something besides a direct statement that it matches. Like maybe a statement that the INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE RECORD matches. Which is exactly what MDEC was told and it doesn’t mean a thing whether the claims match since the genuine record is not legally valid - all of which has already been pointed out to both Kobach and Schmidt.

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