BBC 5 Live General Chit Chat (Part 2)

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The only surprise is that Morning Reports wasn't scrapped completely like all the other news segments have been over the years.

I know we're supposed to "consume our news" differently these days, but I used to enjoy the longer news bulletins. and especially the half-hour sports bulletin on a Saturday night.

Those were the days, back when 5 Live used to have an assortment of hour long news, sport and current affairs programmes on a weekend evening plus programmes like Morning Reports at 45 minutes in length (5am to 5.45am) on weekdays plus News Extra at 7pm and 11pm plus a 2 hour midday news programme presented by Eddie Mair.

I'm sure there are many people who prefer the more magazine style station 5 Live has become but to me it is somewhat directionless. I know it is as much about saving money by reducing all the specialist and news programmes but the station could really do with an overhaul. The problem is that having located to Salford the station is going to struggle to attract top presenters who are based in the south. Eventually the station will just be full of second and third rate presenters who have little personality but who are cheaper to hire.

I remember complaining when the 7.00 News Extra was taken off. I was told that listeners prefer sport at that time of day. Surely we could still have a decent 30 minute segment at other times of day.

Happened to hear Nicky Campbell and Co this morning and nearly chocked on my cornflakes they were going on about a phone in they had about bailiffs and how they treat people in their homes, they seemed to have forgotten about the BBC and Capita the organization they use to bully and harass the poor,single mothers the disabled and even the blind to collect the forced subscription TV licensee fee (a license for a TV wrong or what).............Another fantastic piece of disgusting BBC hypocrisy ..................

Mark has a point. The BBC, being impartial, should not endorse either point of view. Mental health discussions are always favourable to the mental health lobby, and there are so many mental health segments on 5 Live.

Ah right. I'll remember that when I next find an ambulance parked outside someone's drive and blocking the road. I'll just go knock on the door and drag a paramedic out. Good God! How dare they park there just to save someone's life?!

That happened here this very week. But no-one complained. Fancy. Hard to believe, isn't it?

Just put fivelive on for the beginning of the afternoon show. What I got was 5 minutes or so of the presenter boasting about his knowledge of some sort of youth slang and downplaying his colleagues by saying they would not know it. Then the highlight was going to be a trans activist who specialises in nails. This would give hospital radio a bad name.

Nihal was quite appalling this afternoon , shouted down anyone who was struggling to understand about Trans people .Sarah Brett then tried to take the middle road, but Nihal was off on one of his rants !

5 Live (and the afternoon show especially) has become almost like a parody of left-leaning, liberal broadcasting in recent years. It seems like every interview is used as a vehicle for minority interests - ethnic minority guests on the afternoon show will be asked to expound on how they've been subjected to racism, every female guest will be probed for gender equality material, any guest with a left-leaning political perspective - most of them, of course - will be encouraged to use the station as a platform for their views. Robert Lindsay last week, Rebecca Front today (although I will say that to her credit, she wouldn't go there). They've had a field day with sexual harrassment over the last few weeks of course, like a dog with a bone.

Listened to the film review show a couple of weeks ago when Sanjeev Bhaskar and a female contributor were sitting in for Kermode and Mayo - and every single film they reviewed - seriously - was reviewed on the basis of its contribution to political correctness, whether ethnic minority interest, gender equality, anti-gentrification or disabled rights.

A few days ago Nihal interrupted a guest to have a quick dig at Brexit, in a conversation that had nothing to do with it.

The one time I can recall a guest with a right-leaning perspective being interviewed - this was in early 2016 as I recall - as soon as he'd made his point about the EU referendum, there was nervous laughter from Sarah and "I think we'd better move on!"

As someone who doesn't share this relentless liberal PC worldview I despair that I have to fund it being spoonfed to the BBC's listeners.

Brilliant post, It's dreadful isn't it ? added to which Nihal & Sarah are both too dim to address any serious subjects. A lot of it is to do with Showbiz or else their obsession with sexual harassment.

First item this afternoon, a musician stopping someone groping a woman at a gig !

Mark has a point. The BBC, being impartial, should not endorse either point of view. Mental health discussions are always favourable to the mental health lobby, and there are so many mental health segments on 5 Live.

Ah right. I'll remember that when I next find an ambulance parked outside someone's drive and blocking the road. I'll just go knock on the door and drag a paramedic out. Good God! How dare they park there just to save someone's life?!

That happened here this very week. But no-one complained. Fancy. Hard to believe, isn't it?

I have not expressed any objection to people saving the lives of others. What I am objecting to, is the lack of scrutiny of the viewsand approaches of the mental health lobby. In debates on the BBC, each side should be treated equally.

Mark has a point. The BBC, being impartial, should not endorse either point of view. Mental health discussions are always favourable to the mental health lobby, and there are so many mental health segments on 5 Live.

Ah right. I'll remember that when I next find an ambulance parked outside someone's drive and blocking the road. I'll just go knock on the door and drag a paramedic out. Good God! How dare they park there just to save someone's life?!

That happened here this very week. But no-one complained. Fancy. Hard to believe, isn't it?

I have not expressed any objection to people saving the lives of others. What I am objecting to, is the lack of scrutiny of the viewsand approaches of the mental health lobby. In debates on the BBC, each side should be treated equally.

Who are the 'mental health lobby', and who is the other side of this supposed argument?

Come on, wns_195 ... You would prefer people to argue against treating people with mental health problems? You actually want to hear people on the radio saying, "Nah, mate, he's a loonie, just let him get so depressed that he tops himself."?

Come on, wns_195 ... You would prefer people to argue against treating people with mental health problems? You actually want to hear people on the radio saying, "Nah, mate, he's a loonie, just let him get so depressed that he tops himself."?

What I am objecting to, is the lack of scrutiny of the views and approaches of the mental health lobby[\quote]

Just what is it that you would like scrutinised?

Mental health lobby: "If you have a mental health problem, you deserve treatment as much as anyone with a physical health problem."

Anti-mental health lobby: "Oh no you don't."

Sorry, wns, I don't get it. But do tell me if I'm missing the point somewhere, as I really am trying to understand.

What I want is impartial discussion, so that is discussion that presents me with different, opposing perspectives. That is possible without the sort of rubbish that has been posted about anybody who disagrees with the mental health lobby on here, which implies that who ever disagrees with the mental health lobby must want people who have mental health problems to commit suicide.

The mental health lobby is keen to control what can and cannot be said about mental health, including terminology, and also prevention of discussions which they consider triggering to people who have mental health conditions. You can read guidance issued to the media from various mental health charities which think they should be able to impose their views on the media. Rather than scrutinise the mental health lobby, the BBC submits.

Sorry I still don't understand your point. Surely Mental Health is a big concern(our Prime Minister said as such). There is a debate to be had on how to treat it and I'm not sure the"mental health lobby" agree with each other on this. However the idea that the BBC should remain impartial when reporting somebody being hit by a train is frankly ridiculous.

Flintoff Savage and the ping pong guy. How much lower can 5 live sink?

I could do without Robbie Savage, but the 'ping pong guy' is an excellent presenter IMO, and Freddy is very entertaining. To be fair even Robbie's anecdotes are quite interesting - he seems at least to be honest and open .

Hoorah ! Dotun's going to be off-air this week to make way for coverage of the cricket. Hopefully it will last for the full 5 days. He can, however, stay at home and listen to his ' missus' singing instead.

Hoorah ! Dotun's going to be off-air this week to make way for coverage of the cricket. Hopefully it will last for the full 5 days. He can, however, stay at home and listen to his ' missus' singing instead.

Peter Allen and Jane Garvey were perfect for this station. I thought it went downhill when that Blue Peter guy joined (sorry, name?) But now in the afternoon I hear Nihall agreeing with every guest saying 'yesssssss, sounds sad/funny/amazing/deeply, deeply' etc

I hear that 5 Live are doing a "mums and mental health" day next Tuesday (28th November) .... the BBC's/5 Live's obsession with women and mental health continues, as does the obsession with common purpose. PC tick boxing nonsense.

I'm surprised and concerned by the suggestion that's been made a couple of times on this thread that mental health issues aren't something that should be discussed, in the open, on a national radio station.

I'm surprised and concerned by the suggestion that's been made a couple of times on this thread that mental health issues aren't something that should be discussed, in the open, on a national radio station.

What do people hope to achieve by continuing to ignore them?

They should be discussed.
But 5 live are obsessed with mental health. It seems like daily or every other day they devote large parts of their shows to talking about mental health.

What kind of an excuse of a radio station / organisation buys the rights to the Ashes cricket puts the first days coverage on the main Five LifeLess / Local Radio Manchester channel and then broadcasts the rest of the bulk of it on a digital station in Five Lifeless Sports Extra ? Honestly I just cannot get to grips on how the people running the BBC / Five Lifeless minds actually work ?

What kind of an excuse of a radio station / organisation buys the rights to the Ashes cricket puts the first days coverage on the main Five LifeLess / Local Radio Manchester channel and then broadcasts the rest of the bulk of it on a digital station in Five Lifeless Sports Extra ? Honestly I just cannot get to grips on how the people running the BBC / Five Lifeless minds actually work ?

I can't stand cricket like ?I can't stand tennis. Why the BBC think they need to saturate their radio network with this pathetic non sport is beyond me. The cricket coverage is available on other BBC networks so why also shove it out on Radio 5?

Bad enough with the endless crap about "a wicket in the cricket" where we hand over to some old duffer who prattles on about full tosses or chinamen for 20 minutes before telling us that someone hit the ball an ran a bit.

I wonder anyone from the station reads this - if so I used to be the most loyal of its listeners but nowadays there are huge chunks which are substandard - Burden, Nihal, Dotun, Savage, Wright, Cates - absolute crap
To think they used to have Eddie Mair and Shelagh Fogerty
why does everything have to be dumbed down these days