and our very intentions and thoughts actually change and shape matter...

No they don't. I know there's an idea going around that we can affect certain things just by trying to measure them. But, intending on measuring or
just thinking about measuring doesn't do anything. I'll keep an open mind if you want to elaborate, but right now I'm not buying it.

Some countries call it "Black Magic", some used to call it "Witchcraft".

Energy can not be destroyed, it always exists. Sometimes turns into matter, heat. But the energy always exists.
Dead people are all around us and influence the world. They are in a energy state in another dimension, but able to influence ours.

Some people make deals with them to make their lives better here. You don't actually have "Free Spirit" as you think, we all are influenced by
these entities. Our thoughts, actions, health. If they like you....you will notice odd benefits.

The 'Force' is all prior living life forms influencing the present in this material world.

This pertains to the field of noetic sciences. Astronaut Edgar Mitchell founded the Institute for Noetic Sciences in 1979 (I think that's the year).
After an epiphany during a spacewalk, Mitchell believed in the concept of everything being attached to everything.

People have believed this for thousands of years. He may have gave it a name but he certainly did,nt concieve it.

I know he didn't conceive it. He just founded the Institute after his own personal experience.

Originally posted by rapunzel222
but instead we are all part of this vast web of energy, all connected to everything else in the universe on a quantum level

Okay, we're all playing in the quantum foam of the universe. Do you know what that makes us on this teeny weeny speck of dirt? It makes us
teeny-teeny weeny-weeny in that quantum foam. Dropping a grain of sand in the ocean would have more influence on the ocean than we would on the
infinite quantum foam.

Originally posted by rapunzel222
but instead we are all part of this vast web of energy, all connected to everything else in the universe on a quantum level

Okay, we're all playing in the quantum foam of the universe. Do you know what that makes us on this teeny weeny speck of dirt? It makes us
teeny-teeny weeny-weeny in that quantum foam. Dropping a grain of sand in the ocean would have more influence on the ocean than we would on the
infinite quantum foam.

That's sort of a misleading visual. Quantum entanglement may, indeed, have a very minimal impact but it does not act like a ripple in the pond,
getting weaker the farther it gets. So whatever degree of influence one part of existence might have on another, the potential is not dictated by
distance.

I agree that this is a concept that people tend to get excited and a bit carried away just because it is exciting. But even if the impact is
minimal and even if there seems to be little practical use for it, this doesn't mean we won't be able to exploit it later.

It's called "black magic" in an attempt to demonize it. Wanna know why it's demonized? Because it takes the middle man out of your relationship with
the Creator. That means no more power for the Church.

And the Church is the overprotective mother who thinks she still needs to hold your hand when you tinkle, even though you're married with three
kids.

I 1st came across David Bohm in a series of lectures he did with the philosopher Krishnamurti. They are an amazing series of videos that were made in
the late 70's & early 80's and they discuss just about everything regarding human existence. I had the whole series of videos and there were about
50hours of them talking about philosophy and science.
What I found most interesting is that when you watch the videos that the person with all the answers was Krishnamurti not David Bohm. I actually
applaud David Bohm for these videos because he has a genuine interest in what Krishnamurti is teaching him and is certainly not dismissive of the
spiritual side of our existence.

Krishnamurti was an amazing character and the way he talks makes him sound like a real life yoda.

They were just talking about this on Through the Worm Hole with Morgan Freeman as host just yesterday.
At the subatomic level there is nothing but waves and information. Nothing is solid and yet we have solid things. Thats the force that they are
talking about. What makes solids solid when they are not solid.

Why would you capitalize the F in force, and not the first letter of your sentence. I am actually not too concerned about the grammar bit, but, if you
worship it or something like that. Not concerned about that either, just curious.

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