We talk about how they both got started in podcasting, what makes for a good podcast, the current state of podcasting, video vs. audio podcasting, distribution technologies, podcasting apps, business models and opportunities, and lots of other topics that I vaguely recall as interesting. (Things got a little hazy after that second beer.)

Rob offers some good content advice for aspiring podcasters, based on his own experience and the trends he sees in his day job. And Luke — better known on NPR as “Luuuuuuke” — tells some funny (and instructive) behind-the-scenes stories about “Wait, Wait Don’t Tell Me.”

John will be back next week. Here’s the contest I mention at the end of the show. Thanks as always to KIRO’s Erynn Rose for putting the show together (and also taking the in-studio photo this week).

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