New members?

I wrote about the apparent departure of Ryan and Hamish on Wikipedia yesterday (with references to Jane Gazzo's Tweet and the article on Music Feeds) but it's since been deleted. Hopefully a sign someone close to the band knows it's not true/ permanent?

I really don't know what to think. ;_; I can't believe there hasn't been more articles/ tweets about it, or anything! We just have to wait until we get word from Jess, I guess.

Do you think you could link to the music feeds article? I can't seem to find it! :~(

I know a lot of you are confused so I'll confirm that yes - Hamish and Ryan have parted ways with The Vines.

If any of you were at Homebake yesterday, I'm sure you can agree the set was amazing and sounded better than ever. The band has made a creative decision to revert back to a three piece, as they originally started.

I know you will probably have a lot of questions but just wanted to say don't fear, this is in no way the end of The Vines!!

Wow it's really true, that's hard to believe. I really liked Hamish and Ryan.Jessica can you please show us some videos and pictures from the Homebake gig?I want to hear the new sound of the Vines and I also want see the new drummer.Hopefully their will be no problems for the band and their will be a new album soon.

I was at Homebake yesterday and was VERY suprised to see a new line up..But as Jess said they were AMAZING and sounded fantastic..Craig just Killed it!! There was alot to be VERY proud of!! For whatever reason these decisions have been made we have to be positive and believe they have been made in the best interest of the band..Although I will miss Hamish & Ryan dearly..I will ALWAYS Luv & Support The Vines..There are enough haters and music journos who probably can't wait to jump on this story and dish some dirt.. so I think for the remaining members to know they still have our support would be fantastic!! THE VINES FOREVA!!

i'm so sad. i always was vines fans and of course i always will, his music change mi life in so many ways... but it is really disapointing.. all the support to craig.. but i'm going to miss Hamish and Ryan forever!

I can't help but agree. Sure, we all know Craig is the fundamental creative force behind The Vines because he writes the songs and all, but losing half the band is going to have a massive impact regardless. Ryan and Hamish were just as important as any other member and I just can't get over it. And I'm trying, because I know we need to support The Vines no matter what but without knowing why, I'm finding it hard.

I'm confused.. Did Craig kick them out or did they chose to leave? I'm just trying to figure out if this part of Craig's master plan or something.

The feeds article did say that Craig sacked Hamish and Ryan and hired a new drummer, wich is kind of upsetting like he owns the band and doesn't care about the other members, then again he does cause they're his songs and he is the leader of the band, even though songs aren't everything

I guess I will give him the benefit of the doubt until we know what really happened, IF we ever do, I mean maybe he kicked them out or maybe they decided to leave and left Craig hanging although that sounds weird cause they didn't do it during The Vines hardest times, what could've happened so terrible now to make them split ?!!

I don't really know what to think! It's all too weird ... I'm going to miss Hamish and Ryan though

I suppose the name of the band should be something like Craig Nicholls & His Temporary Satellites Whom He Kicks Out Whenever He Gets Bored With Them

Haha I think Craig no matter whatever band name he plays under, either it's The Craig Nicholls Band or The Vines, will always play the same music, that's why I like love him ... of course it'd suck if he kicked Hamish and Ryan out of the band though

We will have to wait for Hamish and Ryan to form their own bands and see what happens ...

This has got to be a publicity stunt, right? It's a desperate attempt for the band to make headlines like "derange Craig Nicholls fires two thirds of his band, including a founding member" etc... IT'S ALL A BIG MARKETING PLOY, RIGHT??!?!??!!

Regardless, I want to slap Craig in the face. I love him dearly and his music is of incomparable importance to me, but I just can't understand how he could supposedly do something like this and not at least issue a statement to his fans.

...... I can't imagine The Vines with Hamish or Ryan. It reminds the recent reformation of Hole. If it's just Courtney Love and none of the other original members, it's not really Hole - it's just Courtney Love playing Hole songs. Even though Craig may be the primary songwriter, we don't know The Vines without Hamish (and since Ryan joined the band so early, we can pretty much say he was there from the beginning). Without those two, it's just not right.

This has got to be a publicity stunt, right? It's a desperate attempt for the band to make headlines like "derange Craig Nicholls fires two thirds of his band, including a founding member" etc... IT'S ALL A BIG MARKETING PLOY, RIGHT??!?!??!!

Do you really think that Craig would stoop to something so low??

Howl wrote:

Even though Craig may be the primary songwriter, we don't know The Vines without Hamish (and since Ryan joined the band so early, we can pretty much say he was there from the beginning). Without those two, it's just not right.

This has got to be a publicity stunt, right? It's a desperate attempt for the band to make headlines like "derange Craig Nicholls fires two thirds of his band, including a founding member" etc... IT'S ALL A BIG MARKETING PLOY, RIGHT??!?!??!!

I actually don't think he would. I'm just trying to think of a situation where Hamsish and Ryan might return. I'd love for it to be a publicity stunt.

...... I can't imagine The Vines with Hamish or Ryan. It reminds the recent reformation of Hole. If it's just Courtney Love and none of the other original members, it's not really Hole - it's just Courtney Love playing Hole songs. Even though Craig may be the primary songwriter, we don't know The Vines without Hamish (and since Ryan joined the band so early, we can pretty much say he was there from the beginning). Without those two, it's just not right.

Yeah, I definitely agree with the Hole statement....it feels like the band loses something just thinking of Hamish and Ryan not being there.....and that something is massive :-(

I really believe there must be good reason behind the split though...The Vines have been a huge part of Hamish and Ryan's life for too long for them to have had a fight NOW, after all the massive dramas, and split. Its so depressing though I mean, we've seen pictures of Ryan and Craig together from childhood! They were best friends.

It's totally obvious that Ryan and Hamish were a major part of The Vines and it's really difficult to comprehend that they aren't going to be a part of the band anymore..Their sudden departure really broke my heart..However speculation, anger or even blame is not going to change the situation!! Therefore I think it's really important to wait for the facts!!Until I have all the facts and are aware of why this has happened, I WILL continue to support Craig, Brad and who ever else chooses to play along side them..That does not mean for one minute that I don't care about Hamish or Ryan cos I luv them dearly..It simply means that I refuse to stop supporting a band that I have ALWAYS BELIEVED IN, based on some internet reports, speculation and heresay!! We just don't know, there could be so much more to this than we realise!! WAITING FOR THE FACTS!!