Proof the opposition to Trumps wall, is nothing but Trump.

"President Trump hurt millions of Americans and caused widespread chaos when he recklessly shut down the government to try to get his expensive
and ineffective wall, which he promised would be paid for by Mexico," Schumer and Pelosi said. "Congress refused to fund his wall and he was forced
to admit defeat and reopen the government. The same thing will repeat itself if he tries this again. We hope he learned his lesson.

I mean, it's was pretty clear already, but some still try to come up with reasons a wall won't work, although the old one did seem to do a decent
job and was popular with the Clinton/Obama folks in the past. Yes, the risk to national security isn't as important as teaching Donald a lesson.
And the lesson is, We rule this government, not you, and not the people, Nancy and Chuck. It's their moment of glory and you are ruining it.

originally posted by: watchandwait410
I find it stupid that Trump wants 8.5 billion for the wall when the shut down cost us over 11 billion. If it happens like that again then they are
truly fools.

I find it stupid that anyone would be against a secure border. I can understand if someone has the view that a wall would be ineffective, and
therefore a waste of $, but those charged with border enforcement disagree almost universally.

Most of the dems that are vehemently against Trump's wall have voted for funding multiple times in the recent past. What does that tell you? A
hippocrit is far worse to me that someone i disagree with, but stands on their principles.

Such an old fashioned idea that many politicians no longer believe n it.

That's because the people are too apathetic to bother doing anything about it.

Out of curiosity, what do you suggest?

Short of civil war, which i doubt would solve anything, there is nothing ppl can do but vote.

The problem is most ppl are sheep, being led by the soundbites they get from a self serving media. In their defense, most are too busy attempting to
take care of their families to sift through all the disinformation.

the wall is a political tool,,,,visual political masturbation,,,both sides can see it and get pleasure from it

the wall doesn't change the fact that there are 25+ million criminals illegals in america

take your pick, if you think that the criminal illegals are working or not

if they are not working, then they are either living off your tax money because i don't see the criminals dying on the streets
or
they are employed and that means that they are taking jobs from americans plus...

do you think the criminals are taking less money than americans for doing the same work??

while I don't like some of the things PRESIDENT TRUMP has done because they have presented a vast amount of difficulties, for me and others, I use to
hear...someone needs to get the corrupt out, they need to stomp out foodstamp fraud,etc. many, too many to count. he has done great as far as all up
to the wall....maybe, just maybe there is something we don't see,. you need to scrape a house before you paint it, who cares who builds it? Could he
be building it to keep us in!!! Look to the things that aren't such big news. there you will find your answers. like the pandemic in Africa, an
Venezuela, virus!! hello, fight to live my friends,

My bad I grabbed my comment about trumps tactics out of the middle. Because I’ve noticed a lot of people make ss that aspect .

I dismissed the $11 billion figure because a lot of it is recoverable and it doesn’t really matter . ( my mind works weird stuff that doesn’t
matter doesn’t register sometimes ) lol

Most of it was federal spending, suspension of federal contracts and such. When federal employees got their money back they still had to pay the
debts they owed or pay back the money they borrowed to cover those debts .

The contractors went back to work and they will be paid because it’s in their contract .

The private sector got the worst of it . I heard a figure from the CBO of 3 billion.

I really like her new wording "newly arrived legal immigrants". In a video released i believe yesterday she also refers to the illegals as the
"newcomers".

......and to think people still don't see this is an invasion and a attack on our sovereignty as a nation. The Democratic party should be hung for
treason. These scumbag dem leaders are traitors, plain and simple. The amount of people in this country that can't see and acknowledge this for
what it is, is baffling to me to say the least. America is being sold out for Democratic votes, they no longer care about the citizens of this
country, it's all about power and greed, period.

Hasta la vista USA as you know it!

Read this paragraph top to bottom carefully and let it sink in for a few.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said the United States must not suppress the vote of newly arrived legal immigrants — including those
foreign nationals who arrive en masse at the U.S.-Mexico border.

During a press conference in Austin, Texas this week, Pelosi admitted that the goal for the country’s mass illegal and legal immigration system is
to ensure the more than 1.5 million new arrivals who come to the U.S. every year are on the voter rolls.

Pelosi added that it is immigrants, not American citizens, who make the nation “more American.”

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