"If you want the MM video, just play the Victor Wooten one at half speed..
But nope, no video. Why should I make it easy for you guys??? Stanley and Jaco never made one for us!! I would wait all year to see Stanely Clarke on TV. They would play one song and that was it. And we didn't even have VCRs!!!
Honestly, while I think videos can help, I do think it's more important to develop your ears by learning from recordings. I think you come to a deeper understanding of what you're learning to play if you have to figure it out yourself. Then use videos to confirm what you've learned. "

I agree with what he is saying to a degree, but for myself, I am also a visual person, and it helps if I can see what is going on, but thats just me Having said that, I hope he puts one out

Don't think for a minute that Marcus never watched someone in person to figure something out or had someone show him how to do something. I get what he's saying but I think he's just not all for breaking his songs down and having someone play each part over and over on a VCR to learn to play it.

Marcus had a lot of Bass players back in Jamaica Queens to look at and even a few to show him what they were doing. When funkbands broke in the early 70's he was very young (13 or 14).There was a bunch of bassplayers in the Rochdale village (home of Marcus Miller) area that were very talanted. We all knew each other and participated in the battle of the band stuff for years. Marcus and I used to talk about happening bassplayers at the time and we all had our favorites. My take is that Marcus does not want to see 10,000 bassplayers mimicking his style down to the frown and grimices. He stated he didn't have vcr's and the like, well he's right we didn't. All we had to record was a cassette player, the radio for the most part was still kinda primitive in the fidelity dept and all the music was on am radio! So he's right that we had to listen more. today we have machines to slow down the music and alot of other crutches to get to superbassplyer status in 2 month's. It's an earning process as well as a learning process fellows!

I also think Marcus dosen't have the time, or need the cash to do a video. There is not all that much bank in videos for guys like Marcus, Will Lee etc.....who are always busy and in demand. I think Victor dosen't do it for the cash either......he just enjoys teaching! I'm sure he dosen't need the money from Wootcamp to make ends meet

Originally posted by RicPlaya Steve Gadd is always with an awesome bassist.

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Even Gordon Edwards?

I bought SNL's 25 Years Of Music DVD set over the Holidays.
The Joe Cocker/Belushi number has Stuff as the backing band(Gadd, Edwards, Chris Parker, Cornell Dupree, Eric Gale...didn'r see Richard Tee, though it sounded like him). Pretty cool stuff.

Sorry for coming off like Seinfeld-
"What's the deal with 'Sampleheads'"?

Sure it's easy to dismiss his attitude, but reading this forum, I can sort of understand where he's coming from. I mean, especially on the 'effects' board; people are asking questions that not that long ago we had to ask ourselves and get our own answers. I mean, there are threads that basically say, "Hey, I just bought a bass/effect/whatever. Now what?" Like they're standing by, awaiting orders. Didn't you have an inspiration for buying it in the first place?

I mean I ask advice about settings, etc once in a while, but at least I had an IDEA why I bought the effect, a sound I was going for. Isn't reaching for that sound where great playing comes from?

People can be spoiled by video and the internet. They don't realized that the beauty of music is that some things CAN'T be codified or taught. Tone and personal sound are some of them.

I think that's what Marcus is trying to say.

BTW, that Ohne Filter DVD is excellent. Lots of close ups on Marcus and great playing and solos. The music tends to be a little wimpy, though.

Originally posted by pyrohr Marcus had a lot of Bass players back in Jamaica Queens to look at and even a few to show him what they were doing. When funkbands broke in the early 70's he was very young (13 or 14).There was a bunch of bassplayers in the Rochdale village (home of Marcus Miller) area that were very talanted. We all knew each other and participated in the battle of the band stuff for years. Marcus and I used to talk about happening bassplayers at the time and we all had our favorites. My take is that Marcus does not want to see 10,000 bassplayers mimicking his style down to the frown and grimices. He stated he didn't have vcr's and the like, well he's right we didn't. All we had to record was a cassette player, the radio for the most part was still kinda primitive in the fidelity dept and all the music was on am radio! So he's right that we had to listen more. today we have machines to slow down the music and alot of other crutches to get to superbassplyer status in 2 month's. It's an earning process as well as a learning process fellows!

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Pyrohr,My Brother I Feel ya"on this one because me some other cats that had started playing around that time had or didn't have any of those tools either,and I go a bit futher.There might have been on cat who had a decent cassette that you could've of proably learn the bass line of a tune(that is if he was in the mood for sharing which was rarely because that was a brothers main music box)so we basically regulated to the lp or 8-track to learn a song and I think we did a pretty good job of doing it.
Oh ! young players.This is another process of which some of us Old School players called it Lifestyles of The Funk&Famous.

I bought SNL's 25 Years Of Music DVD set over the Holidays.
The Joe Cocker/Belushi number has Stuff as the backing band(Gadd, Edwards, Chris Parker, Cornell Dupree, Eric Gale...didn'r see Richard Tee, though it sounded like him). Pretty cool stuff.

Sorry for coming off like Seinfeld-
"What's the deal with 'Sampleheads'"?