So, it looks like DC is just using Vertigo as a catch-all imprint for books that don't fit in their Rastafied NuCrap universe, much the same way Wildstorm was used for various and random books when it was still around.

So, it looks like DC is just using Vertigo as a catch-all imprint for books that don't fit in their Rastafied NuCrap universe, much the same way Wildstorm was used for various and random books when it was still around.

They're publishing that, Fables and The Unwritten. Anything else?

Mad_Radhu:I find it hilarious that Saucer Country is now Hugo nominated after Vertigo pulled the plug. Hopefully the series will get a new home elsewhere like Image.

Cornell suggested something like that would happen several times, I hope it does, especially if that lets it cross over with the Manhattan Projects.

FirstNationalBastard:Mad_Radhu: I find it hilarious that Saucer Country is now Hugo nominated after Vertigo pulled the plug. Hopefully the series will get a new home elsewhere like Image.

Remember, Vertigo turned Chew down half a dozen times before Image decided to back a winner.

Because DC editorial is farking retarded. They're trying to bottle that lighning by having Layman write Detective Comics, and he's the obvious choice to take over Batman Inc if Burnham doesn't after Morrison's run ends in four issues.

I remember Vertigo from the 90's, when about half the girls at the comic shops were trying to dress like Didi from "Death: The High Cost of Living." Then they would get angry that other people had heard of their favorite "obscure" comic book, too. And try pointing out to anyone that Vertigo was a DC imprint.

This was also at the height of Anne Rice fandom, when White Wolf actually made games that people play.

Begone, angst-ridden goths. Back to the 80's and 90's that spawned you. There is no place for you in the new century.

I want to see the further adventures of Mitchell Royce, Two-Fisted Editor.

I'm against comic creators returning to things that they've completed. It never goes well.

For example, Peter David is a great writer, but his second run on the Incredible Hulk was just missing something.

Chris Claremont returning to X-Men in the 2000s? Why?

NuResurrection Man by Abnett and Lanning... didn't need to be done.

However, I have hope for when Neil Gaiman completes his Miracleman run, and would love to see Christopher Priest and MD Bright finish Quantum and Woody (instead of stupid fake Valiant NuDCing the characters).

I'm ok with Vertigo for AC, because that means new AC! If you're not happy about that, you don't like comics.

Of course, I also don't like Sandman (or anything by Gaiman) and don't have fond memories of Vertigo's heyday. Those brain holes are all filled with encyclopedic knowledge about every X book published 1992-2001. And I like it that way.

TelemonianAjax:I'm ok with Vertigo for AC, because that means new AC! If you're not happy about that, you don't like comics.

I would rather see Astro City with the Image logo on it again than to see it have the craptacular bandaid or the Vertigo logo on it.

Unfortunately, DC got Astro City when it bought Jim Lee in 1999, so there's probably nothing that can be done about liberating the book from the people who will never develop AC into a movie, or an animated series, or do anything but sit on it and waste it like they do every character without an S or bat ears.

However, more Astro City is great, since Busiek is finally well enough to write again, and hell, it might even be monthly this time.

TelemonianAjax:I'm ok with Vertigo for AC, because that means new AC! If you're not happy about that, you don't like comics.

Of course, I also don't like Sandman (or anything by Gaiman) and don't have fond memories of Vertigo's heyday. Those brain holes are all filled with encyclopedic knowledge about every X book published 1992-2001. And I like it that way.

I am unaware of how Jim Lee fits in to Astro City. I thought that was Busiek's baby, start to finish?

people who will never develop AC into a movie, or an animated series, or do anything but sit on it and waste it like they do every character without an S or bat ears.

I don't ever want to see the Confessor on TV. I think this book works best as a book, one that you won't come across until you're deeply versed in lore enough to really feel the love coming through for the tropes.

However, more Astro City is great, since Busiek is finally well enough to write again, and hell, it might even be monthly this time.

Nothing pisses me off more than a "monthly" book. I got sick of waiting for Generation X and Gen 13 for the same reason.

waste it like they do every character without an S or bat ears.

DC has characters without an S or bat ears that are worth doing something with? Please, explain, because every time I interact with DC characters without an S or bat ears, I'm wondering WTF I'm doing wasting my time because it's all pointless. There will be a new person with this hero's name in a couple of years, with a totally different story and nonsensical, stake-less villians. DC is like Peeps - people keep buying them because they bought them when they were kids, not because they enjoy them.

/Sidebar: I ended up in a conversation recently that resulted in me passionately defending Gen 13 as the perfect comic book for a 13 yr old boy. The counterpoint was that Tarot: Witch of the Black Rose is the perfect comic book for a 33 yr old man.

and yeah, this is larger proof that Vertigo is dead. An imprint dedicated to dashing the superhero genre as a requirement in comics and to challenge the assumptions of what a comic can be adds a giant depiction of a superhero world to its line. I loved AC, bought the freaking hard backs, but it is in no way a Vertigo-esque book. It challenges nothing of the comic sensibilities but it is well-written and drawn.

Thank you, it's been a while since I tore through my stack of single issues. For some reason, I thought they were published under a different label, maybe the trades were? In my head, I never associated AC with a major-major label, but that might be my kid brain discounting Image as being new. I've been busy with kids and life, I'm finally dipping my toe back in to reading again. Finished up AvX hardback last night and I was...underwhelmed. But part of me never gets tired of watching Colossus royally mess up someone's day.

The Flexecutioner:and yeah, this is larger proof that Vertigo is dead. An imprint dedicated to dashing the superhero genre as a requirement in comics and to challenge the assumptions of what a comic can be adds a giant depiction of a superhero world to its line. I loved AC, bought the freaking hard backs, but it is in no way a Vertigo-esque book. It challenges nothing of the comic sensibilities but it is well-written and drawn.

I'm just glad to have something well-written and well-drawn (will Ross do covers? I loves me some Alex Ross...) on the shelves every month, and without Wolverine, Deadpool, or Batman on it. There's room for us all out here, and Vertigo seems to need something to pump it up again. Maybe this will give it some breathing space to develop some new titles. Or, like Google, it has grown up and is no longer the upstart it once was and becomes more mainstream to reflect the company's maturity.

So, it looks like DC is just using Vertigo as a catch-all imprint for books that don't fit in their Rastafied NuCrap universe, much the same way Wildstorm was used for various and random books when it was still around.

This; looks like they want to go "family friendly" for the Vertigo label.

Dumb, dumb, dumb-ass DC Comics. They compare favorably to a certain group of politicians.

PonceAlyosha:FirstNationalBastard: Mad_Radhu: I find it hilarious that Saucer Country is now Hugo nominated after Vertigo pulled the plug. Hopefully the series will get a new home elsewhere like Image.

Remember, Vertigo turned Chew down half a dozen times before Image decided to back a winner.

Because DC editorial is farking retarded.

This x infinity.

They're trying to bottle that lighning by having Layman write Detective Comics, and he's the obvious choice to take over Batman Inc if Burnham doesn't after Morrison's run ends in four issues.

TelemonianAjax:The Flexecutioner: and yeah, this is larger proof that Vertigo is dead. An imprint dedicated to dashing the superhero genre as a requirement in comics and to challenge the assumptions of what a comic can be adds a giant depiction of a superhero world to its line. I loved AC, bought the freaking hard backs, but it is in no way a Vertigo-esque book. It challenges nothing of the comic sensibilities but it is well-written and drawn.

I'm just glad to have something well-written and well-drawn (will Ross do covers? I loves me some Alex Ross...) on the shelves every month, and without Wolverine, Deadpool, or Batman on it. There's room for us all out here, and Vertigo seems to need something to pump it up again. Maybe this will give it some breathing space to develop some new titles. Or, like Google, it has grown up and is no longer the upstart it once was and becomes more mainstream to reflect the company's maturity.

"more mainstream" doesnt mean "maturity". Vertigo was an upstart 20+ years ago and it 'matured' in the late 90s with several huge flagship titles that crossed over to a different mainstream, book readers. There are 2 mainstreams involved. Comics mainstream are the big 2 publishers and their iconic superheros, long time continuity (shaken as of late), and their popular movie properties. Then there is the mainstream book market, irrespective of comics, populated by people that don't want superhero as the subject matter. The mainstream you mention is, in my opinion, the wrong one to shoot for. They dont want to attract the conventional comic reader. They want to attract the conventional book reader, who still views comics as only superhero-fare. AC does the opposite.

Rwa2play:PonceAlyosha: FirstNationalBastard: Mad_Radhu: I find it hilarious that Saucer Country is now Hugo nominated after Vertigo pulled the plug. Hopefully the series will get a new home elsewhere like Image.

Remember, Vertigo turned Chew down half a dozen times before Image decided to back a winner.

Because DC editorial is farking retarded.

This x infinity.

They're trying to bottle that lighning by having Layman write Detective Comics, and he's the obvious choice to take over Batman Inc if Burnham doesn't after Morrison's run ends in four issues.

Crudbucket:xnewnoisex: Looking forward to The Wake by Snyder in May. That's about it

I am excited for Jeff Lemire's upcoming Trillium.His creator-owned stuff is miles beyond his mainstream DC books, and even those are pretty good.

I've been reading Green Arrow lately.... Lemire is doing great things with the property. I have heard of Trillium and looking forward to it as well. One that surprised me is Brilliant by Bendis. It is brilliant to say the least.