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Brewed up my first lager last weekend. Ended up getting much better extraction than my first few all grain batches so it feels like my process is improving. I'm using the WY2122 SF Lager yeast and wondering;

What temperature and duration do folks like to primary? (I've got the control set to 60*)

Because of the relatively high fermentation temp is a diacetyl rest necessary with this yeast strain?

What temperature and duration do folks like for secondary?

Temp and duration to condition?

Seems like people are all over the place with this yeast so I'm hoping to find a pattern somewhere. Thanks!

Are you after a steam beer? When I am doing a cali-common i do a primary at 60-62f I do a d-rest but I don't know if I really need to. I don't bother with secondary and condition for anywhere from 1 to 6 weeks. This style was historically tapped quite young without any real lagering (think central cali in the 19th century, not a lot of refridgeration)

2112 holds lager characteristics up to 68F+. I use this exclusivery for my Steam Beers. I've never done a d-rest with this strain and I usually ferment it at around 68. Primary is typically 5-7 days to ferment, then condition for a week and straight to keg for secondary. I've tapped it from 1-4 weeks afterwards and always have a great brew. It's one of my favorite styles and a crowd pleaser. At 60F it may take a bit longer to ferment, especially if you did not make a starter.

Are you after a steam beer? When I am doing a cali-common i do a primary at 60-62f I do a d-rest but I don't know if I really need to. I don't bother with secondary and condition for anywhere from 1 to 6 weeks. This style was historically tapped quite young without any real lagering (think central cali in the 19th century, not a lot of refridgeration)

A little trivia-The name Steam Beer came from the pressure that built up inside the kegs that would "steam" when tapped during gold rush San Fran. We now legally have to call it "California Common" as Anchor Steam trademarked the term "steam". From our friend Ray Daniels-Designing Great Beers.......

Are you after a steam beer? When I am doing a cali-common i do a primary at 60-62f I do a d-rest but I don't know if I really need to. I don't bother with secondary and condition for anywhere from 1 to 6 weeks. This style was historically tapped quite young without any real lagering (think central cali in the 19th century, not a lot of refridgeration)

A little trivia-The name Steam Beer came from the pressure that built up inside the kegs that would "steam" when tapped during gold rush San Fran. We now legally have to call it "California Common" as Anchor Steam trademarked the term "steam". From our friend Ray Daniels-Designing Great Beers.......

Well WE don't have to call it california common unless we are going to sell it. I actually prefer cali-common now just cause I am grumpy with Mr. Maytag for trademarking the name and don't want to associate my beer with his (Which is good beer, but still grumpy )

I thought conditioning occured in the keg/bottle after primary and secondary fermentation?

"What was the style of beer you were brewing?"

Well, the recipe came from a friend that called it a Creemore Clone. I've added some dextrine malt and some Willamette FWH, so needless to say, I've strayed outside the bounds of a Premium American Lager. So, at OG 1.060 and ~29 IBU, I think I'll call it an EXTRA Premium American Lager.

A little trivia-The name Steam Beer came from the pressure that built up inside the kegs that would "steam" when tapped during gold rush San Fran. We now legally have to call it "California Common" as Anchor Steam trademarked the term "steam". From our friend Ray Daniels-Designing Great Beers.......[/quote]

Well WE don't have to call it california common unless we are going to sell it. I actually prefer cali-common now just cause I am grumpy with Mr. Maytag for trademarking the name and don't want to associate my beer with his (Which is good beer, but still grumpy )[/quote]

I thought conditioning occured in the keg/bottle after primary and secondary fermentation?

"What was the style of beer you were brewing?"

Well, the recipe came from a friend that called it a Creemore Clone. I've added some dextrine malt and some Willamette FWH, so needless to say, I've strayed outside the bounds of a Premium American Lager. So, at OG 1.060 and ~29 IBU, I think I'll call it an EXTRA Premium American Lager.

Conditioning starts once fermentation is complete. It's still the same process, just on the yeast cake.

Sounds like you have quite an interesting brew going here. You should still get the sour note out of the 2112 but it will be clean at a 62F fermentation. At 1.060OG did you make a starter? If not you may get some sulphur and diacetyl.

I thought I would bump this old thread1. bc no one ever finished or got back with the requested replyand2. I have a little discussion on experience with this strain.I fermented a nice 1.056 o.g. mostly pils beer with this anddid make a good 1 qt starter on the stirplate and used med oxto saturate the wert at pitching....it fermented to barely thestated attenuation levels with some difficulty and swirling tempswere ambient but within the 60 degree area.

I was some what dissapointed in it's performance.I kept the yeast cake and dumped fresh oxygenated wert onthe 3 day old yeast cake and barely had any lag time andfermentation is ongoing with the temperature on the higherend at 68-70 f. I will have hopefully if I don't forget interesting results to report back with.

My main concern or question is what characteristics areflavor profiles of this strain when fermented at the upperend of it's reported temp. range? it seems to be happierat the 70 degree area IMO.

Yep, the whole idea around the strain is that is holds lager characteristics at higher temps. I typically ferment 2112 around 65F. 70F is a little high but not extreme. I'd be interested to hear how it comes out.

Brewed up my first lager last weekend. Ended up getting much better extraction than my first few all grain batches so it feels like my process is improving. I'm using the WY2122 SF Lager yeast and wondering;

What temperature and duration do folks like to primary? (I've got the control set to 60*)

Because of the relatively high fermentation temp is a diacetyl rest necessary with this yeast strain?

What temperature and duration do folks like for secondary? There is no need for a D rest with this yeast.

Temp and duration to condition?

Seems like people are all over the place with this yeast so I'm hoping to find a pattern somewhere. Thanks!

fritz maytag came into a dive bar called the irish bank in sf one afternoon. just doing a follow up/ seeing if they needed anything, i chatted with him for a bit, we talked about old potrero rye wiskey, he left. then my friend behind the bar told me who he was, i was impressed he was doing the leg work.

Yep, the whole idea around the strain is that is holds lager characteristics at higher temps. I typically ferment 2112 around 65F. 70F is a little high but not extreme. I'd be interested to hear how it comes out.