These are some of the problems in European countries that we may find in Canada . . . .

Anjem Choudary, a British-born radical Islamic cleric who lives off the British welfare state, has repeatedly urged his followers to quit their jobs and claim unemployment benefits so they have more time to plot holy war against non-Muslims.
Choudary believes that Muslims are entitled to welfare payments because they are a form of jizya, a tax imposed on non-Muslims in countries run by Muslims, as a reminder that non-Muslims are permanently inferior and subservient to Muslims.
British taxpayers have footed the bill for the Moroccan-born Najat Mostafa, the second wife of the Egyptian-born Islamic hate preacher Abu Hamza, who was extradited to the United States in October 2012. She has lived in a £1 million, five-bedroom house in one of London’s wealthiest neighborhoods for more than 15 years, and has raised the couple’s eight children there.
Abu Hamza and his family are believed to have cost British taxpayers more than £338,000 in benefits. He has also received £680,000 in legal assistance for his failed U.S. extradition battle. The cost of keeping him in a British prison since 2004 is estimated at £500,000.

In France, the government in March 2015 cut welfare benefits for 290 persons identified as jihadists. French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve downplayed the problem. “We shouldn’t make a controversy of this subject or allow people to think no action has been taken. We’re taking this seriously and will continue to do so,” he said.

Back here in Canada . . .
In 2008, the Toronto Sun reported that “hundreds of [Greater Toronto Area] Muslim men in polygamous marriages — some with a harem of wives — are receiving welfare and social benefits for each of their spouses, thanks to the city and province, Muslim leaders say.”
“Polygamy is a regular part of life for many Muslims,” Canadian Society of Muslims president Mumtaz Ali declared bluntly. “Ontario recognizes religious marriages for Muslims and others.”
One Iranian immigrant to Sweden expressed astonishment at his new country’s policies: “In Sweden my family encountered a political system that seemed very strange. The interpreter told us that Sweden is a country where the government will put a check into your mailbox each month if you don’t work. She explained that there was no reason to get a job.”

The statistics from Norway are even more shocking. According to a University of Oslo study, “non-Western immigrants” are ten times as likely to be on social assistance as native Norwegians.

In Germany, Muslims are four times as likely to be receiving welfare as non-Muslims. However, unlike his counterpart in Sweden, Berlin’s former finance senator Thilo Sarrazin is speaking out against the benefits system and has penned a bestselling book condemning the nation’s immigration policies. Sarrazin stated while in office that welfare recipients could feed themselves on four euros per day, adding that “losing weight is the least of their problems.”

Research by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard from 2002 reveals that mostly Muslim immigrants in Denmark “constitute five percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending.” In that country, numerous “single” women who receive social assistance are really the wives of polygamous Muslim men.

I can’t tell whether Dale – left coast (above) believes the “Muslim Statistics” material, or is just someone looking to spread bigoted comments about Muslims. The claims are entirely false, and the Muslim Statistics site states that it offers no references to the sources it uses. The idea that Muslims are more likely to be on welfare and that they have an agenda to exploit the systems are both ignorant of the facts and without supporting evidence. This kind of hate speech cloaked as reliable information is extremely damaging as far too many people will take it at face value without further investigation. So Dale, either do some legitimate investigation before spreading this nonsense, or get some therapy regarding your irational fear of Muslims.

Dale has yet to refute statistics brought to his attention, preferring to repeat his lies or direct readers to ‘blogs’, YouTube videos, or whacko web sites run by known ‘foaming at the mouth’ reactionaries such as Ezra Levant (a person who has lost a number of lawsuits for his false publications). Facts are just not his thing as they tend to make his belief system fall apart. He’s even more fun when spewing ignorance on the topic of climate change, but I digress.

On December 17, Democrat Congressmen quietly sponsored House Resolution 569, a resolution that asks lawmakers to condemn “violence, bigotry, and hateful rhetoric towards Muslims in the United States.” The resolution specifically mentions Muslims, no other religious groups, and will serve as a test by which further criminalizing of “Islamophobia” may be introduced.

Kaufman’s claims were poorly thought out and researched . . . . just like the “Twitter” story on the Oregon situation at NW.
But . . . open your eyes Leon . . . I know it’s tough . . . but what is going on today in Europe is our future . . .

Nothing is going on in Europe, Dale. Eruope and Canada are different places, part of the reason Europe has the problems it has is its ghettoization and discrimnation against Muslims going back 100 years.

If you REALLY want to avoid what you think is happening in Europe…. stop spreading hate.

“nothing is going on in Europe”?
Come out of your shell and join the real world . . . we are in the process of building ghettoes today . . . it will likely take a decade or more to be like Europe . . . but smart folks don’t want to go there . . . but YOU do ?

wow….that’s quite a lot of effort on your part Charmaine. Why do you spend so much time on this?
Do you not see the news as cold and factual and unprofessional to take a public postion on?
Do you have some skin in this refugee business?

Why do we bother having opinions when we can just look to you for answers?

Why don’t you take on that Dale guy? He seems to have some pretty inflammatory things to say. Are those facts ?

Those ARE facts . . . that is why you will NEVER see them in the Canadian media . . . and what could go wrong ? Justin has his Whabi Saudi advisor and the compliant left will as Lenin said “buy their own rope”

The media taking a personal stance? Like when Peter Mansbridge attended Justin’s campaign manager’s wedding in Holland? Or when Donna Friesen sent the PM a cake?
The Media today Leon is so far gone they could only go up from here.
The world around you is collapsing and they are telling you that “Change” will fix the day.
Justin and the Media Party in Ottawa and TO have been getting together and partying for years . . . are YOU the last to know?

There are a billion people on FB. Can we look forward Charmaine ‘debunking’ and correcting all our posts?? And that guy only had 38 friends on his FB….the only reason it ‘went viral’ was because some snoop posted it on a bunch of news sites. maybe people should stop snooping and harrasing.

poqari.ml? You have got to be kidding. Are you not at all concerned that the source of the domain is the African nation of Mali? And that they were giving away .ml domains for free? Your credibility has reached a new low, although I must commend you on branching out to having your ‘news’ source based in an Islamic country.

And spare me the “Media is against Conservatives” garbage, all the papers endorsed the tories, the only over the top biased news outlet Canada ever had was right wing and it seems all those reporter-turned-senators were CONSERVATIVES

The MEDIA is almost entirely leftist today Lenon . . . are you the last to know?
The so-called journalism schools are run by rabid leftists . . .

Back in the day the Media used to be a-political for the most part . . . . and report the FACTS . . . those days are gone forever.

In the last federal election . . . the 6000 member strong journalism union campaigned for Trudough and the libs . . . when does the light go on for you?
The Ottawa Media regularly hung out with Trudough in the pubs and bars.
He was their shining star . . . and they said so with regularity . . .

The journalism union? Which one is that? At which convention did they pass the resolution to support Trudeau? Would creating such an obvious resolution put them in an ethical conflict of interest since they are supposed to be independent? Why did newspaper editors publish, en masse, editorials and false front page ads in support of the Conservative mere days prior to the election? That doesn’t seem to support your statement, now does it? Why hasn’t the Conservative Party of Canada complained to Elections Canada or the Newspaper Guild or the CRTC about such an obvious contravention of media standards?

I’m going to take a stab in the dark on this one, Dale, but I think that you made this up. Again.

Just checked Unifor’s 2015 convention resolutions online, Dale. None was passed directing the membership to work for Mr. Trudeau and the Liberal party. Sorry, but it seems that you’ve made up a tall tale once again. Not that this would matter, but wouldn’t trade unionists tend to support the NDP, in any case? Do you ever check to see if what you say is true?

You seem to be confused between the difference of facts and opinions. Whether refugees will get more money than pensioners is a matter of fact; either it’s true or it’s not.

Opinion, on the other hand, would have more to do with whether refugees ought to get more money or not, or whether they should even be let into the country to begin with. I don’t see anything like this here.

Charmaine debunks or confirms claims because it’s her job. She gets paid to do it. Asking her why she spent time on this is like asking you why you spend time at work.

Well our pm , the enlightened one.
Wants us to be more like europe.
Bankrupt and unemployed.

Anyone who has been to the uk has seen the the huge problem with mass refugee migration with a liberal social welfare program . Canada has a system very similar.

The muslims coming here are already running out of money and ending up at food bank.

The pm thought that a family of 4 could easily live on 1700 and 2000 a month in vancouver .Really?

The wise pm we have seems to have no clue . I guess years of privilege and tax payer funded living, blinded him from reading the news. TRUDEU .. Vancouver is extremely expensive!! Maybe you missed the memo.

The equivelent of 12-14$ hr will not afford a family of 4 very much, if anything.

How on earth can the fed libs think this going to work?
Ohh thats right. They haven’t a clue and don’t care. Trudeu wants his name in the history books and along with his gold plated pension. He has nothing to lose. His pension is guaranteed with guaranteed increases set by the gov’t not by market rates.

The left has pretty much destroyed Europe Leon . . . but you see little of this disaster in Canada’s lame stream media today . . . .
They had a quiet New Years in Paris . . . only 800 cars were destroyed this year . . . lol

Hi Charmaine – I ponder how many days have the refugees stayed in any given Hotel since their arrival here in B.C; based on the “Per Diem” stated in the Vancouver Sun report, and confirmed by you about five minutes ago “on the air”, the Government (i.e. taxpayers) will pay ~ CAD $ 1708 for a family of four staying at the hotel for a week. So the issue here, and perhaps for you (et. al) to investigate/report is how soon the refugees are moved out from the hotel to a place where they are eligible for the provincial social assistance rates ~ CAD $ 1101 for a family of four.

Please note, being and immigrant myself, when I landed in 1982 my monthly expenses were half of that of the minimum wages at the time in Alberta, and I thought I was doing great, Reason? my logical thinking was converting the CAD currency into my country of birth currency, which at the time was, “minimum wages in Alberta were equivalent to 6 months work in my country of birth” – I am quite positive that Syrian an et.al refugees are thinking the same way.

On the other hand, to be fair, it seems to me that the beneficiary of the Per-Diem is the Hotel Owner, not the refugees themselves.

Sorry, Charmaine, but it would appear that a lot of the dejected and rejected CONs are trolling this article today. It would seem that some are simply xenophobic, others are too greedy to share even the basics, and all bought into Harpers Fear and Division. Most Canadians rejected the Fear propaganda and most Canadians see how it’s reasonable to allow for a readjustment period for the refugees until they are located in housing in the cities, towns and provinces where they will live. That readjustment period does cost more because it is the private hotels, motels that are being paid to house, temporarily, the refugees which includes the cost of the rooms and the meals. All the while the refugees are being brought up to date on what is expected of them in Canada to help them integrate into Canadian society after they move. As to jumping to conclusions and conflating the figures from the Sun article? There is so much of that out there in Twitter Land and Facebook Land and you can usually tell who is ignorant of the facts by the comments they make.

Actually, Dale, if you fully understood that story you would realize that Leon is relaying the fact that this ‘standoff’ was precipitated by the gun toting ranchers appealing for help via social media. Sadly, however, your Oregon comment is attached to the wrong story. You certainly do have trouble staying on topic.

The story Dennie is about race . . . comparing this to Ferguson when the blacks burned down the town . . . NOTHING is similar and the few clowns on the twitterverse that drew those conclusions were nuts.

It has nothing to do with race . . . it is about the injustice of the feds in-justice dept. and their appealing a case that had long since been finished.

Lonion,
I am not sure who you refer to when you cast aspersions as you just did. I don’t know who fits any of the labels you rifle around because I don’t care a wit about a person’s politics thus I don’t notice them – I want to hear their opinion..

However, as our past Premier Doshanj so eloquently said to day, political correctness is out of control in our country to the degree that a whole segment of our society is no longer free to speak on issues and that Canada has given away its hard earned identity.

Fortunately some sites are color, gender, religion, politically blind such that a person can speak freely without censure.
When the Liberals announced that 25,000 refugees would be let into Canada by Christmas (60 days from the date of the announcement) many Canadians realized this was impossible to do safely so we spoke up. We endured great amounts of slander by thin thinkers like Leon and were called xenophobic and racist, but, we were right and the fed’s now admit it.

Please don’t try to say this is an issue about sharing and that those opposed to your position are greedy. Some of us are very concerned about the vetting. Some of us don’t trust the media to tell the truth. Some of us don’t trust the media to tell the whole truth as Charmaine and ‘NW have done withholding what Chaudri’s father is doing and where he is doing it.

Thanks for posting a clarification that has some details. It could be helpful for those who do/did believe him. I’d like to see more of this “debunking” when comments become vicious or viral. Sadly, there are a lot of right wing people out there who seem to want to believe anything negative that relates to Syrian refugees, the Trudeau government, or any other topic that involves social benefits or education.

Mike Kaufman reposted verbatim the Vancouver Sun’s information. He didn’t skew anything other than to put the dollar figure into a daily and monthly perspective (even if the refugees aren’t going to be staying there any more than a couple of days). But you decide that Sea Palmer ‘debunked’ it?

Since we’re on the topic of people not paying attention to what they’re reading, did you even read what he wrote? He said absolutely nothing…nothing. He didn’t back anything up. He provided a link to the same article and basically said “read it”. Then he proceeded to call everyone who shared it a ‘urine drinking orangutan’…this is what a rebuttal is? A man-child calling someone down and providing nothing more to back up his opinion than a link to the same article and a link to a primate drinking it’s own piss…seriously? This is what you classified as ‘debunking’?

Although this claim may be untrue, it remains to be seen how much assistance these refugees will end up receiving. How long will it take them to learn English, get employment and become self-sufficient? They may end up receiving welfare assistance for many years to come. I don’t think that any of this has been given much thought all in the name of appearances “in keeping with Canada’s proud humanitarian traditions”.

Why would a radio station of any stature post a reply that is as juvenile as the “monkey post” does it reflect those who edit these posts … i hope not… NW has lost its way in the past couple of years and frankly posts such as the one mentioned do the station no good..