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"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." - Mark Twain."A myth is a religion in which no one any longer believes"...James Feibleman (1904-1987)www . axia . ws/axia

In all seriousness, don't you think we should ALL send in videos telling George why we're fed up and what it is we really want?!

We could all take the time on this forum to make sure that we're all telling him the exact same thing! When the guys putting this thing together get all of these videos saying the exact same thing, they'd be hard pressed to not do some sort of montage in order to get that message across to Lucas.

as much as lucas has screwed up, he is still the father of star wars. and he did inspire and imagination of one generation. this site would not exist if it weren't for him. adywan wouldn't be doing his video edits for the OT. nobody would be making fan maid videos. imagine how dull ur life might be right now without star wars.

Hardly a compelling argument. Whatever successes he may have had in the past (the bulk of which I attribute to other creative minds, by the way), the fact remains that his latest movies have all been sub-par and sophomoric. I don't see how the comparative high quality of one release should in any way impact the degree of scrutiny to which other releases are held...

Let's say I give you $100 dollars, rcb. A few weeks later, after you have had plenty of time to think about and dream about ways to spend you $100, I meet you on the street on your way home, scruff you up, grab your wallet, and take your $100 dollars, saying, "Its mine, I never meant to give you that much anyway." and toss you a ten dollar bill before walking away. Would you be saying, "Well, without C3PX, I wouldn't even have this ten dollars!" It would be true, without me you wouldn't even have the ten bucks, but I still acted like a jerk in giving it to you, then taking it away from you again in a very rude way.

And now when you complain about what a jerk I am, my friends turn around and say, "Shut up whiner, it was his $100 bucks to give away and take back as he pleased! Stop whining about things that are not even yours. You got what you deserved.

as much as lucas has screwed up, he is still the father of star wars. and he did inspire and imagination of one generation. this site would not exist if it weren't for him. adywan wouldn't be doing his video edits for the OT. nobody would be making fan maid videos. imagine how dull ur life might be right now without star wars.

Whatever credit Lucas might deserve is erased by what he's since done against Star Wars. And he was by no means the only person responsible for the original trilogy.

Let's say I give you $100 dollars, rcb. A few weeks later, after you have had plenty of time to think about and dream about ways to spend you $100, I meet you on the street on your way home, scruff you up, grab your wallet, and take your $100 dollars, saying, "Its mine, I never meant to give you that much anyway." and toss you a ten dollar bill before walking away. Would you be saying, "Well, without C3PX, I wouldn't even have this ten dollars!" It would be true, without me you wouldn't even have the ten bucks, but I still acted like a jerk in giving it to you, then taking it away from you again in a very rude way.

And now when you complain about what a jerk I am, my friends turn around and say, "Shut up whiner, it was his $100 bucks to give away and take back as he pleased! Stop whining about things that are not even yours. You got what you deserved.

with all respects, i don't think george took star wars back and gave me a cheap ten

bucks. really i think its just a matter of opinion. star wars is here because of GL. He has

done good over the years even though he made some screw ups. The PT being his

biggest in the corny acting between anakin and padme. ugh. he still deserves respect.

And on the comment about GL seeing the movie, he'll prolly just sit back and laugh and

The whole thing of mutilating Star Wars with the special edition and replacing the originals with it so the originals may not be available in the future, that's a stab in the heart. That's no minor thing. That's crime against the huge numbers of people who loved the originals. Similarly, what was done in the prequels wasn't just bad filmmaking, it was horrendous destruction of something good. It was a crime against art. This is not just some bad filmmaking, this (the prequels, special editions, the whole anti-originals thing) is a major fucking crime. A lot of people are hurting bad because of it. What call was there to make a lot of people hurt? And why the heck should something loved by a ton of people be screwed up to satisfy the whims of one man? Quite simply, it's an outrage. And after that, no I don't think Lucas deserves respect any more. Heck, I don't think he respects me and the other fans of the originals (remember that thing he came out with about sorry you fell in love with a half-finished movie? That strikes me as a real dig at the fans of the originals. And I think many would say the GOUT's another dig at us. Not to mention his mutilating our beloved movies, with, as far as I can tell, no consideration for how we might feel). So I guess the feeling's mutual.

The whole thing of mutilating Star Wars with the special edition and replacing the originals with it so the originals may not be available in the future, that's a stab in the heart. That's no minor thing. That's crime against the huge numbers of people who loved the originals.

That pretty much sums it up. I'm probably just repeating what everyone else here has said more eloquently than me... but it just boggles the mind why Lucas seems to loathe the original trilogy so much. He doesn't understand how important the original incarnations are for all of us who saw the OT when they were first released. It's ridiculous that he just can't give those fans a decent release of the films. These are the people who made him rich in the first place. Instead, all he does is throw out a half-assed DVD set, and then pretends that the "modified" versions of the OT are the "real" things. And he'll just keep changing and changing the original movies until they're no longer recognizable. Check out the "Free Hat" episode of South Park. lol.

There are so many other filmmakers out there that respect the fans by making all versions of their films available... Just look at the Blade Runner blu-ray released by Ridley Scott. There are so many versions of that film, and Scott made ALL of them freely available and in decent quality. Lucas, on the other hand, seems to refuse that the original versions of the OT were valid, and he'll never be satisfied with them.

with all respects, i don't think george took star wars back and gave me a cheap ten

bucks. really i think its just a matter of opinion. star wars is here because of GL. He has

done good over the years even though he made some screw ups. The PT being his

biggest in the corny acting between anakin and padme. ugh. he still deserves respect.

And on the comment about GL seeing the movie, he'll prolly just sit back and laugh and

accept that this is wat some people think of him.

I don't see the PT as his biggest screw up. All directors make a few dogs every now and then. It is disappointing but far from unforgivable.

You may not feel like George gave you ten buck and took Star Wars back, but that is very much the way some of us feel. My illustration was pretty general, wasn't meant to define the situation perfectly. The fact is, we grew up with these movies and really liked them. And then we were told they don't exist anymore and were basicially told to F off. If we wanted those old pieces of crap, they were waiting for us on dilapidated old VHS tapes.

This may not have bothered you at all, but to many of us it was rather like a kick to the stones. If you went to the theater and saw a movie you really liked and thought "Man, when that comes out on DVD I am buying it!" Then they announce it won't ever be on DVD. It would suck. You'd be disappointed. In our case, we grew up with it, and loyally purchased it again and again on VHS and laser disc. Then this really great new format comes out, this format makes VHS look awful and even makes LD look rather pathetic. Most of us here, since the very moment we learned what DVD was, were imagining how great SW would look on it.

Finally, after being told we couldn't have it on DVD ever, we were told, alright, fine, it is on its way to DVD. Then we get the GOUT... another kick in the stones.

Ever had a bully take a toy away from you, wave it in front of your face tauting you, "You want your toy back? You want your toy back? Huh? Do ya? Then go get it! HAHAHA!" as he tosses it into a garbage dumbster/neighbor's backyard with mean dog/puddle of mud/some place gross and crappy? Well, neither have I, but I imagine it would feel a lot like the GOUT.

I can't say I don't have respect for Lucas. If I were to meet him I'd be very kind and polite. I don't hate him. But I am disappointed in the quality of his current products, and cannot support them. I don't go around saying he raped my childhood, because he didn't. It is not like I am going to die without the OT in a modern format. But his stance on the matter, which let's face it, is just pure stubbornness, would have cost him pretty much the same to put a real version on DVD instead of the 1993 LD masters, is really disappointing. Using the very outdated LD masters feels as if it was done out of spite. We had been pirating the LD transfers and saying, well, as long as they are not on DVD we are justified, and so he piped up and said, 'Well guess what? Now they are officially on DVD'.

You'd probably say he did us a favor, better that than nothing. But open up your eyes! That is what we already had! Even your precious SEs look absolutely horrible. Sure the picture is crisp, but the colors are all wrong, and the sound is all jacked up. Anyone who defends any of the OT DVD releases, SE or GOUT, has a very questionable degree of LFL loyalty. If someone is so loyal as to defend LFL on their DVDs, chances are if LFL employees came to their home and raped their mom/sister/wife and killed their family pet, they have some logical way of explaining their behavior away and defending them.

There are movies I like that have come out on DVD that have had very poorly done releases. Movies by film makers I have great respect for, and the movies have even been the version of the film I prefered to watch! And yet I never once felt the need to defend them, seemingly to the death, for such a poor quality transfer. I cannot understand why fans of the SE find the need to defend the 04 (and subsequent) DVDs so adamantly, when clearly they are a very poor quality product. It is some really odd brand of loyalty that clearly wanders over the line of obsessive. It is almost like some of you enjoy being screwed by this company, merely because its owner made a few movies you like.

i can see where ur comin' from. and i didn't mean the PT was his biggest screw up. i just meant the acting between
hayden and natalie were bad. i don't mean to offend anyone so srry if i did. i guess its a generational thing.

You didn't offend me in anyway. It might be a generational thing to some degree, though it goes much deeper than that.

I have written countless analogies for this whole matter before, but no matter how many I write, some people still don't get it. They still think some of us ought to get over it and accept what Star Wars has become, rather than wanting what it was to us.

I know this is meaningless, and it isn't going to convince anybody, but I thought of a really great analogy today, and might as well type it up.

For those who just can't quite wrap your head around the OT Star Wars fan, those of you who constantly think, "I just don't get these obsesses old lunatics!", please imagine yourself in the following scenario:

Jorge's Famous Three Layered Cake

Imagine a fellow named Jorge Lewis. Jorge Lewis is a cake maker at a local bakery. You hear from one of your friends that Jorge makes a really excellent chocolate cake (if you don't like chocolate cake, then imagine your favorite type of cake instead). You go to his bakery and try it out, and yeah, it is a pretty amazing cake. Suddenly you are a huge advocate of Jorge and his delicious cakes. You go around telling everyone about them. They are so great you just can't shut up about how good they are. You pass people on the street and happen to hear them talking about needing to order a cake, and you stop and say, "Excuse me, but I couldn't help but over hear you say you needed to buy a cake, well check this Jorge Lewis guy out, he makes an amazing cake!" You probably just crept those people out, but you don't care, because you discovered something amazing, and you just can't keep it to yourself, you have to share it.

Eventually Jorge comes out with a two layered cake, and it too is amazing. You go on loving this cake and telling everyone about it. It is an incredible cake, and now it comes in two layers! After a small passage of time, Jorge adds a third layer. Three wonderful layers of chocolaty goodness! You and all your friends agree: Jorge's three layered chocolate cake may very well be the greatest tasting thing on earth. Jorge's three layered chocolate cake is so amazingly, wonderfully, fantastic, it renders all other chocolate cakes inedible. Anytime you eat any other kind of chocolate cake, no matter how good it is, you simply can't shake the feeling that you are experiencing a cheap knock-off, or that you are settling for second best. Jorge's three layered cake has set the standard for cakes as far as you are concerned, and it is pretty hard for anything else to live up to it.

After years of loving Jorge's three layered chocolate cake, after having it at every single one of your birthdays, and for holidays and special occasions, you have never grown tired of this cake. You love it, plain and simple. And you love Jorge for having brought it into your life. It is one of those small pleasures that you just wouldn't want to do without. It is a really good cake.

One day, you enter Jorge's shop to buy one of these wonderful three layered stacks of sugary goodness, and excitedly he tells you he has something new. For years he has wanted to put frosting on these cakes, but has never quite been able to get the frosting right. Until now. You have loved his three layered cake from the very beginning, you had never imagined what it would be like with frosting. It had always just kind of been frosting less, and you had always just kind of figured it was always meant to be that way. "Finally, my cake is completed! Finally it is the way I have always imagined it to be! This, my friend! This! Is the cake I have always intended for you to have had when buying from my bakery! This is the way I always envisioned my famous three layered cake being. My apologies for all those subpar cakes you purchased from me in the past, but one bite of this will make it up to you. At last, my cake is perfect!"

Jorge is really excited about the new cake. You stay around and chat with him for a bit, tell him the new cake looks very impressive and you can't wait to try it, and congratulate him on finally finding the right frosting; something that apparently he had been looking for for a very long time. All these years you'd been too busy enjoying the cake to even really consider the fact that it lacked frosting. Oh well, this new cake sure looks good!

You get home, cut yourself a piece, and bite into it. Not bad. Not bad at all really. An interesting change, something new, a little bit of variety. However, as you go on eating for a few more bites, you start thinking to yourself that it is a little bit too sweet for your taste. The new cake isn't awful by any means, but it just isn't the wonderful three layered cake you fell in love with.

The next time you are ready to buy one of Jorge's cakes, you go to him and say, "Alright Jorge, I'd like to order another one of those fantastic three layered cakes of yours. Only this time, could you hold the frosting--"

"What? Hold the frosting? Are you nuts? No! I am not doing it! I won't hold the frosting for you! My famous three layered cake you love so much has frosting on it now, and that is all there is to it, (insert your name here)!

You're kind of surprised. You didn't think the request was that big of a deal. You didn't think it would offend him. After all, he was the mastermind behind the original three layered chocolate cake, the fact that you love that thing he invented so much should be flattering to him. "Well, Jorge, it is just that the cake with the frosting on it is a little too sweet for my taste, and--"

"Too sweet? This is my cake, this is the way it is. That other cake you used to order, it doesn't exist anymore. If you really want that cake, well, let’s just hope you have an old slice or two left in your refrigerator, because that is the only way you are getting any."

"Alright Jorge, fine. I didn't mean to cause a fuss, I'm sorry. I'll go ahead order one of your cakes with frosting."

"Very good! That'll be $18.50. Thank you! Come again."

You get home and sit down to enjoy of piece of the cake, but it really is just too rich for your taste. You don't enjoy it like you did. It is no longer the cake that made you want to run out and tell complete strangers about what a wonderful cake it was. In fact, now when you compare it to those other cakes that you always felt never added up or came anywhere close to Jorge's cake, those other cakes don't fair so badly anymore. You even begin to prefer some of those other cakes over Jorge's. You'd have never in a million years have imagined that happening. It wasn't that those other cakes were getting so much better, but that with this overly sweet frosting on Jorge's cake, it just wasn't as good as it used to be (in your humble opinion).

You try scraping the frosting off with a butter knife, but the frosting is laid on so thickly, that it has been absorbed by the cake. No matter what you do to try to alter the cake yourself, it just isn’t that old cake you once loved so much.

After sometime, you decide to try again, "Jorge! Boy, your cakes sure are delicious! You know, the other day I was thinking about that old three layered cake you used to make. You know the one, before the frosting and all..."

"Yes. I will. I am sure you won't like it much, it was a pretty bad tasting cake, not even sure why you want it, but I'll sale you one. Just don't come complaining to me when you realize how awful it is."

"Thanks Jorge! This is great! Thank you so much!"

Jorge goes into the back and after a while returns with two cake boxes. One contains a beautiful looking frosted chocolate cake, and the other contains the cake you have been dreaming of, Jorge's famous three layered cake, sans the frosting... only, it is covered in frost.

"Jorge, what is up with the cake?" you ask politely.

"Oh, it is from the freezer. I found a bunch of these frozen in the back of my freezer, they’re left over from a big party I catered sometime last year. Been frozen for a year or so now, but I am sure you will still like it. I mean, you liked these things well enough when they were all gross, frosting less, and unfinished, seems like you'll like anything. That'll be $36.99.

"$36.99?!"

"Yeah, didn't I mention? You have to buy one of my new frosted cakes along with the year old freezer burnt one. So many customers were requesting the old frosting less cakes; by selling them together we will get to see which cake they really like. Freezer burnt crap, or, my delicious frosted cake. In the end, we will see which one you guys really like. Thanks! Come again."

So, after years of elevating this man to the level of "divine cake maker" and running around as one of his biggest advocates, literally annoying all your friends and family about this cake and nearly force feeding it to them, years of refusing to buy cake from anyone else, deciding that there are no other cakes worth eating, and feeling that no baker would ever be as good as Jorge, you walk away from the bakery feeling just a small twang of resentment toward the man. Jorge could easily sell you a fresh baked cake without the frosting, but for whatever reason, he simply won’t. Not even for you, a valued long term customer and a friend. Instead, he sells you worthless left over frozen year old cakes that most bakeries would have just thrown away. Not only did he sell it to you, but he made you buy one of his fancy new frosted cakes with it. Not only that, but you realize you wanted that old frozen cake so badly that you barely even hesitated to buy the frosted cake alongside it.

You feel kind of ripped off and cheated. Jorge and his products had meant so much to you, for some reason you thought you somehow meant something to Jorge. Guess not. Yeah, no use denying it, you feel a little resentful. You know what might make you feel better? Going home and cutting yourself a slice of that original famous three layered chocolate cake... after it thaws out.

You didn't offend me in anyway. It might be a generational thing to some degree, though it goes much deeper than that.

I have written countless analogies for this whole matter before, but no matter how many I write, some people still don't get it. They still think some of us ought to get over it and accept what Star Wars has become, rather than wanting what it was to us.

I know this is meaningless, and it isn't going to convince anybody, but I thought of a really great analogy today, and might as well type it up.

For those who just can't quite wrap your head around the OT Star Wars fan, those of you who constantly think, "I just don't get these obsesses old lunatics!", please imagine yourself in the following scenario.

Jorge's Famous Three Layered Cake

Imagine a fellow named Jorge Lewis. Jorge Lewis is a cake maker at a local bakery. You hear from one of your friends that Jorge makes a really excellent chocolate cake (if you don't like chocolate cake, then imagine your favorite type of cake instead). You go to his bakery and try it out, and yeah, it is a pretty amazing cake. Suddenly you are a huge advocate of Jorge and his delicious cakes. You go around telling everyone about them, they are so great you just can't shut up about how good they are. You pass people on the street and happen to hear them talking about needing to order a cake, and you stop and say, "Excuse me, but I couldn't help but over hear you say you needed to buy a cake, well check this Jorge guy out, he makes an amazing cake!" You probably just creeped those people out, but you don't care, because you discovered something amazing, and you just can't keep it to yourself, you have to share it.

Eventually Jorge comes out with a two layered cake, and it is amazing. You go on loving this cake and telling everyone about it. It is an awesome cake, and now it comes in two layers! After a small passage of time, Jorge adds a third layer. Three wonderful layers of chocolaty goodness! You and all your friends agree. Jorge's three layered chocolate cake may very well be the greatest tasting thing on earth. Jorge's three layered chocolate cake is so amazingly wonderful, it renders all other chocolate cakes inedible. Anytime you eat any other kind of chocolate cake, you simply can't shake the feeling that you are experiencing a cheap knock-off, or that you are settling for second best or something further down the line. Jorge's three layered cake has set the standard for cakes as far as you are concerned, and it is pretty hard for anything else to life up to it.

After years of loving Jorge's three layered chocolate cake, after having it at every single one of your birthdays and for holidays and special occasions, you have never grown tired of this cake. You love it plain and simple. And you love Jorge for having brought it into your life. It is one of those small pleasures that you just wouldn't want to do without. It is a good cake.

One day you enter Jorge's shop to buy one of these wonderful three layered stacks of sugary goodness, and he tells you he has something new. For years he has wanted to put frosting on these cakes, but has never quite been able to get the frosting right, until now. You loved his three layered cake from the very beginning, you had never imagined what it would be like with frosting. It had always just kind of been frostingless, and figured it was always meant to be that way. "Finally, my cake is completed! Finally it is the way I have always imagined it to be! This, my friend, this is the cake I have always intended for you to have when buying from my bakery. This is the way I always envisioned my famous three layered cake being. My apologies for all those subpar cakes you purchased from me in the past, but one bite of this make it up to you. At last, my cake is perfect!"

Jorge is really excited about the new cake, you stay around and chat with him for a bit, tell him it looks very impressive and you can't wait to try it, and congratulate him on finally finding the right frosting, something that apparently he had been looking for for a very long time. You'd been too busy enjoying the cake for all these years to even really consider the fact that it lacked frosting. Oh well, this new cake sure looks good. You get home, cut yourself a piece, and bite into it. Not bad. Not bad at all really. As you go on eating a few more bites, you start thinking to yourself that it is a little bit too sweet for your taste. Th.e new cake isn't awful by any means, but it just isn't the wonderful three layered cake you fell in love with.

The next time you are ready to buy one of Jorge's cakes, you go to him and say, "Alright Jorge, I'd like to order another one of those fantastic three layered cakes of yours. Only this time, could you hold the frosting--"

"What? Hold the frosting? Are you nuts? No! I am not doing it! I won't hold the frosting for you. My famous three layered cake you love so much has frosting on it now, and that is all there is to it, (insert your name here)!

You're kind of surprised, you didn't think the request was that big of a deal. You didn't think it would offend him. After all, he was the mastermind behind the original three layered chocolate cake, the fact that you love that thing he invented so much should be flattering to him. "Well, Jorge, it is just that the cake with the frosting on it is a little to sweet for my taste and--"

"Too sweet? This is my cake, this is the way it is. That other cake you used to order, it doesn't exist anymore. If you really want that cake, well, lets just hope you have an old slice or two left in your refridgerator, because that is the only way you are getting any."

"Alright Jorge, fine. I didn't mean to cause a fuss, I'm sorry. I'll go ahead order one of your cakes with frosting."

"Very good! That'll be $18.50. Thankyou! Come again."

You get home, and sit down to enjoy of piece of the cake, but it really is just too rich. You don't enjoy it like you did. It is no longer the cake that made you want to run out and tell complete strangers about what a wonderful cake it was. In fact, now when you compare it to those other cakes that you always felt never added up or came anywhere close to Jorge's cake, those other cakes don't fair so badly anymore. You even begin to prefer some of those other cakes over Jorge's. You'd have never in a million years have imagined that happening. It wasn't that those other cakes were getting so much better, but that with this overly sweet frosting Jorge's cake just wasn't as good as it used to be (in your humble opinion).

You try scraping the frosting off with a butter knife, but the frosting is laid on so thickly, that it has been absorbed by the cake. No matter what you did to try to alter the cake yourself, it just wasn't that old cake you once loved so much.

One day you decide to try again, "Jorge, boy your cakes sure are delicious! You know, the other day I was thinking about that old three layered cake you used to make. You know, before the frosting and all..."

"Fine."

"Fine? Fine what? You'll sell me one of your original style cakes?"

"Yes. I will. I am sure you won't like it much, it was a pretty bad tasting cake, not even sure why you want it, but I'll sale you one. Just don't come complaining to me when you realize how awful it is."

"Thanks Jorge! This is great! Thankyou so much!"

Jorge goes into the back and comes back a while later with two cake boxes. One contains a beautiful looking frosted chocolate cake, and the other contains the cake you have been dreaming of, Jorge's famous three layered cake, sans the frosting... only, it is covered in frost.

"Jorge, what is up with the cake?" you ask politely.

"Oh, it is from the freezer. I found a bunch of these frozen in the back of my freezer, left over from a big party I catered last year. Been frozen for about a year, but I am sure you will still like it, I mean, you liked these things when they were all gross, frostingless, and unfinished, you'll like anything. That'll be $36.99.

"$36.99?!"

"Yeah, didn't I mention? You have to buy one of my new frosted cakes along with the year old freezer burnt one. So many customers were requesting the old frostingless cakes, by selling them together we will get to see which cake they really like. Freezer burnt crap, or, my delcious frosted cake. In the end we will see which one you guys really liked. Thank you! Come again."

So, after years of elevating this man to the level of "devine cake maker" and running around as one of his biggest advocates, literally annoying all your friends about this cake and nearly force feeding it to the, refusing to buy cake from anyone else, and decided that there are no other cakes worth eating, and feeling that no baker would ever be as good as Jorge, you walk away from the bakery that day feeling just a small twang of resentment. Jorge could easily sell you a fresh baked cake without the frosting, but for whatever reason, he simply wont. Not even for you, a valued customer and a friend. Instead, he sells you worthless left over frozen year old cakes that most bakerys would have just thrown away. Not only did he sell it to you, but he made you buy one of his fancy new frosted cakes with it, not only that, but you realize you wanted that old frozen cake so badly that you barely even hesitated to buy the frosted cake along side it.

You feel kind of ripped off and cheated. Jorge and his products had meant so much to you, for some reason you thought you somehow meant something to Jorge. Guess not. Yeah, no use denying it, you feel a little resentful. You know what might make you feel better? Going home and cutting yourself a slice of that original famous three layered chocolate cake... after it thaws out.

even when i disagree with you, u show great wisdom in the force. i'm being serious btw.

C3PX the only way I'll be able to fully grasp your story and the concept behind it is if you can tell me if this Jorge Lewis baker guy is an analogy for another man?

Cause I'm thinking his name is pronounced ?Xorxe/ Hoar-hey. Or maybe it's more of a hard "J" like James.

Oh well I'll study it a bit more until you get back to me, but this Jorge Lewis guy sounds like a bit of an ass.

Anyone else feel like some chocolate cake?

Hilariously good post by the way

His name is most definitely pronounced Hoar-hey, though this is not to say he is necessarily Hispanic (though he could be), probably just has some Hispanic ancestry, perhaps he had a grandfather or great grandfather named Jorge who he was named after. But anyway, if you were to go with an English pronunciation and use a hard "J" as in James, his name would sound an awful lot like the name George. This could be mere coincidence, or perhaps, it could have some deeper meaning.

You are right about one thing, auntie. Jorge is a bit of an ass (not to belittle him too much though, he did make one hell of a cake back in his day!)

Well you know, you could always experiment with ways to take the frosting off, or even try to track down an old frozen cake and preserve it for others. Perhaps reverse-engineer the recipe? If a restaurant changes their menu, it can't be taken personally, but you can do your best to try to resurrect that cake.