“Mucho Grass” Alex, must have been a better flight than the one the team took from Chicago to ARZ….

thefarnz

Um, I believe that its Carl who posted this lineup.

SurfCity

It’s Carl

DrLefty

That IS interesting. And wow, what a hit piece.

DrLefty

Didn’t play yesterday, either but is not listed on the DL. Dodgers started Ryu (lefty) and we have a righty going, so it’s not a platoon thing, either (he’s a switch-hitter, anyway). Must have some day-to-day thing like Pagan.

The Kevin Love trade was ‘nixed’ because Bob Meyer heard from “Lefty” that she did not want Marreese Speights being shipped to Minny because she enjoys his stellar play off the Warrior bench, thus the DUBs GM pulled back from the deal. ;o)

Foothills Ryan

sounds Spaignish to me.

SurfCity

Some heavy posturing going on in that deal. I think there’s a chance something still may happen, but as I mentioned last thread, Dubs seemed to do realize how hefty the asking was from Minny.

SurfCity

What elements of it are English?

DrLefty

Hahahaha, funny guy. Love the avi.

DrLefty

Sure looks like it, doesn’t it. He should have taken the extension after 2012 and/or the Padres should have sold high on him then.

DrLefty

Amarista, who played 3B yesterday and is in the lineup tonight, is hitting .212. Isn’t he the one Pence robbed to save Timmy’s no-hitter?

For my fellow minor league junkies/geeks, Matt Duffy is not listed in the starting lineup for Richmond, even though he’s been red-hot. He’s still listed on the Richmond roster, but in looking at the Fresno roster, I notice that Tony Abreu and Juan Ciriaco are listed as on the DL. That means, with Panik’s promotion, the Grizzlies have exactly one middle infielder, Nick Noonan. Even Perez, who can play the infield in an emergency, isn’t back with the Grizzlies yet.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see if Duffy gets bumped up and/or if they put Long Ball Duvall at 2B tonight…

DrLefty

They have some really creative first names in Cuba. Yasmani, Yoenis, Yasiel, Aroldis…

Lefty says: Belt, you mean? No can do. Out of options after last year. Sorry to crush your dreams like that.
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A player has 3 option years. Belt was added to the 40 man in 2011. He was only optioned in 2011. That means he still has 2 options years.

Foothills Ryan

Sounds more like you nailed it. He would seem to be ahead of schedule. You should go. Should be able to get seats behind visitor dugout so you get close enough to say hello. The last Grizzlies game I was at, I was right behind the dugout and was tempted to ask the Omaha team what they thought about Escobar’s stuff. They let their bats do the talking that night.

Once a player has been placed on a team’s 40-man roster, a team has 3 option years on that player.

A player is considered to have used one of those three option years when he spends at least 20 days in the minors in any of those 3 seasons.

A team may have a fourth option year on a player with less than five full seasons of professional experience, provided that both conditions below are met.

A player has not spent at least 90 days on an active professional roster in a season. Minor leagues that play below Class A Advanced have seasons that are shorter than 90 days, and as such, any player who spends a full season in a rookie or Class A (short-season) league will receive a fourth option year.

A player has not spent at least 60 days on an active professional roster AND then at least 30 days on a disabled list in a season. Only after 60 days have been spent on an active professional roster does time spent on the disabled list count towards the 90-day threshold. As with the prior example, this cannot occur with players who spend a full season in a rookie or Class A (short season) league.

DrLefty

What that doesn’t make clear though is if it’s three option years in a row (the option clock starts ticking when he’s added to the 40) or if it’s three option years as long as they haven’t used them up. Could Pablo be sent to the minors? Could Buster? Etc.

Again–I thought it was the way you said until it came up with Adrianza. It didn’t make any sense to me how he could be out of options when he’d barely been in the big leagues, but they added him to the 40 after the 2010 season. So 2011-2013, three option years–out of options for 2014.

2holehitting

I read it as added to the 40 man roster, they have 3 years to send him down and up. They can also run out of options if he is on the big league roster and is in the 5th year regardless of the amount of time spent in the bigs.

South City Jim

Wow, I missed that part of last night’s game and didn’t see this. I didn’t think there was anything worse than seeing catchers getting blown up at the plate but perhaps this is. I predict this will show its ugly head in one of the WC games this postseason and basically MLB can’t win. If they call it an illegal blocking of the plate, folks will hate it, and if they don’t they’ll say “you called it an illegal play all year long and now it’s not?!?!” Bad, bad rule.

Bapah

Do the Italians have much of a naval or merchant marine presence in the Caribbean?

BALDHEADSLIK1

How do you know how often a 13 year old changes her profile pics? I’ll be waiting on your response.

DrLefty

I’m not sure if Belt made the 90-day threshold in 2011, but I’m pretty sure he made 60 days + 30 days on the DL (broken wrist in St. Louis when HBP). It’s academic, anyway–Belt’s not going to the minors, no matter how much Sam hates him–but I’d like to understand how it works.

Foothills Ryan

Translates to Mark Scooter. How did that happen anyways? Honey, pack the kids, this Mussolini is a nut job, we’re going to South America.

2holehitting

I don’t see the fascination with keeping Adrianza around. The guy has been with the Giants and the farm system for 8 years. He is a career 248 hitter that has never been a consistent hitter for average at any level

Foothills Ryan

Gondolas I’m told.

Bapah bah bapah bah bapah bah bah bah …

They don’t write like that anymore…

Surf Maui

Although I agree with you that this was a BS call the website close calls says it was correct

This is a horrible rule, or interpretation of the rule. Same as that Russell Martin play last week (which was even worse, in some respects, since it was a force play so he HAD to have a foot on home plate.)

The C gave way with his right foot as soon as he caught the ball.
Apparently, the C CANNOT block the path to the plate at all unless/until he has the ball.

Trying to fix the collision issue at home plate, they’ve managed to make it worse.

I know he’s not starting tonight but whats the word on Pagan? by my count he last played a week ago Saturday and he can be retroactively DL’d for ten days. So tomorrow would seem to be decision day to be eligible to play on Sunday

Foothills Ryan

I saw the catcher get blown up old school style with the ball knocked loose by SJ Giant Mitch Delfino on Sat. nite. Umpire got that one right but the SJ G’s manage still came out to argue. It’s a work in progress.

avwh

You know even less about basketball than baseball, MLBSF. (Didn’t even think that was possible.)

Love is a great scorer, lousy defender, and not an elite rebounder since 2010. And he’ll cost the max contract against the salary cap.

Klay is an elite defender already, an elite 3-pt shooter, and this past season learned to drive to the hoop to create more fouls and more passing opportunities.

Trading Klay and Lee for Love is a fool’s game. Maybe you end up with more offense (and even that’s debatable), but you certainly weaken the defense, and you don’t get any meaningful salary cap space in the bargain. So how does that make the Warriors better??

IMO, Ridiculous is reserved for Wilson, Gomes, Napoli, Werth and either POMERANZ or Doolittle.
Let’s remember BB9 had his ‘dominant’ hand removed for daily functions and thus he began the beard. Romo just shaved all his facial hair. I agree with CC below, not sure he is gonna ever shave it. I bet Haley thinks he looks like George Clooney with his white whiskers 😉

Darkrose

The Grizzlies have a no facial hair–or at least a no beards–rule. Poor Kontos has to shave every time he goes back down.

In Harvey’s case, maybe that’s an example of why the Mets have a notorious reputation for messing up young arms, and have for a long time. Nolan Ryan once remarked, he wasn’t sure how he survived the Mets.

SurfCity

I assume he stayed behind in the Arizona Bad Backs Home for Giants baseball players.

Keep’n It Real

Still haven’t made it to a Rivercats game. Maybe I now have the excuse I’ve been waiting for.

Any update on the story that the Sac folks have offered up Sacramento to the Giants AAA team after this year? Heard this weeks ago and nothing since.

Adrianza to the Yankees whenever it happens. Brendan Ryan was somebody others coveted from St Louis and Seattle but he’s been out all year and Adrianza loves to hit (switch) in Yankee stadium. That way Adrianza won’t ever haunt – unless it is post season. Sabean, Tidwell, Bam Bam, Evans (NY Commish office) and Shane Turner all have ties to the Big Apple. (Kontos/Huff etc).

By the way Shane Turner is the real deal as Director of Player Development.

Based on the rule, I believe the catcher was blocking the plate and it should have been overturned. That’s not to say that I like the rule. The biggest issue IMO is that the runner is put in a defensive position more likely to get hurt because he knows if he blows up the catcher he’ll probably be called out. The runner can’t make that decision in one or two steps while the catcher is straddling the plate then sort of steps away as he catches the ball.

Moooooooooose

Hector had both feet in front of the plate and had to move to his left to catch the ball. Based on the rule, the runner should have been called out.

Roberto’s already been “up there” Serving those there so I don’t see why not.
Mother Teresa can do shorthand.
Zimmer and Gwynn can handle some of the load.

The Oracle

MLBTraderumors talks about the Giants’ interest in Daniel Murphy. I hope Panik proves that won’t be necessary. And the Dodgers as the favorites for Price? With the starters they already have? The Dodgers sure make it easy to hate them. The only thing that could make it even easier would be to bring back Lasorda as manager. Oh, how I loved watching him do that stupid left handed clap over his bulging gut as Reggie Smith circled the bases.

Foothills Ryan

Could use somebody that can plan the outfield in return.

The Oracle

You’re talking about Ehire Adrianza? Of the Giants?

DrLefty

Wow, Vandy just scored 9 runs in the 3rd inning on 5 walks, an error, and a HBP. Tyler Beede with the start tomorrow; if Vandy wins tonight, it will be for all the marbles, just like Nick Vander Tuig for UCLA last year.

Foothills Ryan

How about that? I was hoping for respectable things from NVT this year. MIA.

Foothills Ryan

Alex has retweeted some bit about Adrianza getting an MRI on hamstring. This is just what the doctor ordered – DL and some rehab in Fresno and maybe that Yankee trade.

Are you shocked. Cashman has several rosin bags he hasn’t used but in all seriousness not everybody can be wrong. None of us care for the kid (EA) however the people who count – do care for him. When he runs he’s a glider, gifted defensively but has never mastered hitting.

Maybe he will in the NYY organization. Jeter is done and Brendan Ryan has disappointed or rather been injured all season/all the time.

He’s been injured. I think he’s on a rehab assignment in the AZL, to rejoin Augusta when ready.

BALDHEADSLIK1

Udaman

BALDHEADSLIK1

Joe Panik looks like he should be working at your local footlocker shoe store, baby face,

Doughnut

I think the kicker here is when it says that a player must have played at least 20 minor league games for it to be an option year. So yes, I believe Belt, Pablo, and Buster all have options left. Adrianza doesn’t because he played at least 20 minor league games in the years after he was placed on the 40 man starting the clock.

MLBSF

LOL tell me how the Warriors won’t be just spinning their wheels not making the trade.

You don’t think the Warriors are actually going to be better this season do you?