Sounds good. Will keep watching the weather. If the Crags route falls through I am heading to the bottomless pit past bar camp on sunday or monday. I want to check out the Y coulier route on the North Face also.

It has frequently been noticed that all mountains appear doomed to pass through the three stages: An inaccessible peak - The most difficult ascent in the Alps - An easy day for a lady. Albert Frederick Mummery, My Climbs in the Alps and Caucasus

OK. Monday it is. I recommend meeting at the Colorado Springs Safeway at 31st Street and Colorado Ave at 7:30 a.m. sharp. We can carpool from there. It is about 45 minutes to the TH.

This hike is Elevation gain: 4,300 feetRT Length: 13.25 miles

And almost all of the miles are above 12,000 feet. So please, if you have health issues, fitness concerns, altitude concerns, or are afraid you will not be able to hike at a steady pace the whole time, do not come on this trip. That being said, I also think it will be fun and beautiful.

Waiting on a TR from dancesatmoonrise, but we will likely need snowshoes for the first few miles.

I've never put together a 14ers.com trip before, any other standard advice I'm forgetting?

"The greatest battle is not physical but psychological. The demons telling us to give up when we push ourselves to the limit can never be silenced for good. They must always be answered by the quiet, steady dignity that simply refuses to give in. Courage. We all suffer. Keep going." - Graeme Fife

"I found that nothing truly matters, that you cannot find for free." - The Gaslight Anthem