Beyond the boundaries of established science an avalanche of exotic ideas compete for our attention. Experts tell us that these ideas should not be permitted to take up the time of working scientists, and for the most part they are surely correct. But what about the gems in the rubble pile? By what ground-rules might we bring extraordinary new possibilities to light?

I came upon this very nice picture of our 'motion' through Space, and while I was looking at it I started to realize that something was just really odd. Well, 'odd' in the sense that dogma states that SMBH and Interstellar Gravity holds the Cosmos together. Except when being blown apart, but I digress.

Of the question of where are we going in the Universe, I'll save you a click and spoil the punch line.

the result of the gravitational pulls of a vast supercluster of galaxies (primarily the crowded downtown of our own supercluster, Laniakea), tugging on our Milky Way and the rest of our local cluster of galaxies .... the solar system {moves} 371 kilometers per second toward a point near the constellation Leo, falling toward thousands of distant galaxies.

interstellar filaments conducted electricity having currents as high as 10 thousand billion amperes

Cargo wrote:What is up with the up/down path of the Sun? How is that even possible gravitationally? What's the period/rate of this wobble?

No, it's not possible gravitationally. It doesn't make any logical sense so they need arbitrary influence to make the theory work.

I suspect the motion was invented to try to explain why we're heading away from the galactic centre and out of the galactic plane, which would be a problem when we're supposed to be in orbit around it. The fact is we're not orbiting the galaxy, we're exiting, just like the rest of the stars.

If the jpg showing the Sun's motion disturbs you, look at the Earth on the same jpg and the way they show the Moon's orbit around the Earth. That is deeply wrong. The Moon does not orbit around the Earth like that.

- The Earth and Moon orbit around the Sun together.

I don't know if I've posted these two videos before, but they are close to what I mean.

Cargo wrote:What is up with the up/down path of the Sun? How is that even possible gravitationally? What's the period/rate of this wobble?

The wobble is because of the inclination of the ecliptic plane relative to the solar system's orbit around the galactic center. The barycenter of the Solar System varies with the positions of the planets as they orbit. Visualize: an out of balance wheel causes the axle center to gyrate while the car continues its path forward on a level road. The barycenter of the solar system gyrates as it orbits around the galaxy, thus formed, the orbital path is an irregular spiral.

Cargo wrote:What is up with the up/down path of the Sun? How is that even possible gravitationally? What's the period/rate of this wobble?

The wobble is because of the inclination of the ecliptic plane relative to the solar system's orbit around the galactic center. The barycenter of the Solar System varies with the positions of the planets as they orbit. Visualize: an out of balance wheel causes the axle center to gyrate while the car continues its path forward on a level road. The barycenter of the solar system gyrates as it orbits around the galaxy, thus formed, the orbital path is an irregular spiral.

The period and amplitude of the Sun's motion perpendicular to the galactic plane are important parameters in some explanations of the terrestrial mass extinctions and cratering records1–5. Here we have calculated the range of periods and vertical excursions that are consistent with the distributions of tracer stars in the Galaxy and have also evaluated the probable phase jitter in the solar period. We find acceptable half-periods for the vertical oscillation that range from 26 to 37 Myr (including the range of periods that have been inferred from the terrestrial records on mass extinctions and on cratering), maximum heights above the plane from 49 to 93 pc, and an average phase jitter per half-period of the order of 6–9%. The largest uncertainty in all these calculations is caused by the unknown distribution of the unseen mass that must be postulated to explain the distribution of observed stars6–7. For all the models we consider, the most recent passage of the Sun through the galactic plane occurred in the past 3 Myr provided only that the present position of the Sun is between 0 and 20 pc above the plane. We extend the argument of Thaddeus and Chanan8 to show that the apparent periodicity in the mass extinction and cratering records cannot be caused by an population of objects (observed or unobserved) that contributes a major fraction of the total mass density at the solar vicinity.

And as per the last highlighted phrase they have no idea why it happens, only that it must happen because otherwise their entire paradigm falls over.

Once everyone realises that galaxies are not gravitationally bound and we can do away with all the dark magic nonsense, we get on with real science.

Quite interesting cross up to compare local geography and mass extinction when crossing the Milky plain. And look at the those ranges. Millions of years and parsecs. Yes, exactly. I don't think Gravity has anything to do with it. At all.

Maol, Keep in mind that modern astrophysics have proved Copernicus wrong. Earth is no longer orbiting a stationary sun. The sun is now orbiting the Milky Way, which is orbiting the Local Cluster of Galaxies, which is orbiting the Super Cluster of Galaxies, and who know what else. The sun is now wobbling while spiraling through space at ~2,000,000 mph, dragging Earth along with it.

Maol, Keep in mind that modern astrophysics have proved Copernicus wrong. Earth is no longer orbiting a stationary sun. The sun is now orbiting the Milky Way, which is orbiting the Local Cluster of Galaxies, which is orbiting the Super Cluster of Galaxies, and who know what else. The sun is now wobbling while spiraling through space at ~2,000,000 mph, dragging Earth along with it.

Cargo https://grahamgarnos.weebly.com/blog/th ... lar-system,What I see in Your first link is assumption.IMHO our sun is upon a spiral route about the galaxy, and all of the planets are also upon spiral routes about the suns spiral route.There is no fictional force called gravity.Kevin

What is up with the up/down path of the Sun? How is that even possible gravitationally? What's the period/rate of this wobble?

Actually, It makes sense in a gravity model.In our solar system the average of the orbital planes of all the planets is called the invariable plane.If the galactic plane is, in effect, a galactic invariable plane of the mass of all the stars and planets and stuff, etc, then our solar system could move up and down thru the galactic plane as it moves around the galactic center.

Somewhere, can't find it now, the rate of the wobble is around 25/40 million years.That must be a guess based on the gravity assumption and mass estimates of the matter in the galactic plane.The average mass of bodies in the G plane would pull the solar system back after it's momentum carried it past the center of the plane alternately up then down etc. What might have started all this up and down...who knows ?

So, given a gravity only assumption, it does make some sense.I, however, do not make that assumption.Jack