A solid script, great characters, the most "realistic" superheromovie ever (I find it more related to "HEAT" than with any superhero movie), the joker was great!, it's a pity he can't be in the third part (I guess Nolan will close the trilogy).

Help me out here.Didn't Dent DIE in TDK? I know people want Two-Face to be the next villian, but is he dead or just out cold at the end there? I do think the Mad Hatter is a decent choice. Considering how many crazies were set loose out of Arkham in Begins, I wouldn't be suprised if he showed up.Also:http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m90/Shadowfire_Razaron/fbgugg.gif

How many villains over the years "died", only to come back at some point? Besides, Batman doesn't kill villains. I think he's just 'knocked out', awaiting his return. They never really had a 'funeral' in the movie. Granted, they had that thing with Gordon and Dent's picture in the background, and for all accounts DENT is dead, not Two-Face. Dent died when Joker scarred him. Two Face was born the second he snapped and started killing people. So yeah, I look at it that way.

Penguin- One I want to see done. I'd have him as a crime boss/club owner who essentially gave up crime life (publicly, at least), but is still involved somehow. Possibly helping Batman by giving up other villains to allow himself gain more power. Similar to the comics. But, Phillip Seymour Hoffman would have to play him.

Totally agree! I think Hoffman would be the perfect choice. I would like to see a new villan used though and not have the films going in the order that the original films did. Man-bat would be awesome too as long as it's not all CGI. I hate that.

Nolan's a little against having the Penguin, as it's 'unrealistic.' But the way the comics now have him, with owning a club, giving Batman tips to gain an advantage over other villains, etc, it could be interesting. Batman could see him as an ally, only to find out Penguin's been helping him only to turn his back on Bats when he gained enough power in the underworld.

Help me out here.Didn't Dent DIE in TDK? I know people want Two-Face to be the next villian, but is he dead or just out cold at the end there? I do think the Mad Hatter is a decent choice. Considering how many crazies were set loose out of Arkham in Begins, I wouldn't be suprised if he showed up.Also:http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m90/Shadowfire_Razaron/fbgugg.gif

How many villains over the years "died", only to come back at some point? Besides, Batman doesn't kill villains. I think he's just 'knocked out', awaiting his return. They never really had a 'funeral' in the movie. Granted, they had that thing with Gordon and Dent's picture in the background, and for all accounts DENT is dead, not Two-Face. Dent died when Joker scarred him. Two Face was born the second he snapped and started killing people. So yeah, I look at it that way.

Penguin- One I want to see done. I'd have him as a crime boss/club owner who essentially gave up crime life (publicly, at least), but is still involved somehow. Possibly helping Batman by giving up other villains to allow himself gain more power. Similar to the comics. But, Phillip Seymour Hoffman would have to play him.

Totally agree! I think Hoffman would be the perfect choice. I would like to see a new villan used though and not have the films going in the order that the original films did. Man-bat would be awesome too as long as it's not all CGI. I hate that.

Nolan's a little against having the Penguin, as it's 'unrealistic.' But the way the comics now have him, with owning a club, giving Batman tips to gain an advantage over other villains, etc, it could be interesting. Batman could see him as an ally, only to find out Penguin's been helping him only to turn his back on Bats when he gained enough power in the underworld.

Harely and Ivy joyriding around Gotham would be cool![/quote]Returns was a decent flick. But apparently, Nolan doesn't want to use the Penguin, as it's 'unbelievable.' Dude, your movie is about a guy in a rubber batsuit fighting a guy dressed as a clown. Like you see that everyday driving down the street.

In all honesty, the best way to utilize the Penguin in a 'realistic' style is to use the comic book way: He's a 'legit' business owner, running a nightclub. But since various criminals use his club as a place to hatch schemes, he sells them out to Bats, and Batman doesn't really go after Penguin. Then eventually, something happens, causing their rift, so to speak. It's happened in the comics, so I could see it happening in a flick, especially if it's as a 'secondary villain' type thing, with another villain as the 'main' villain.

So I guess nobody was really shocked that Heath Ledger won for The Joker. I loved his performance, but it seemed almost as if they had to give it to him, namely due to his death and the fact the flick made something like a billion dollars. Generally, it seems all the 'lower budgeted' movies that don't bring in a lot of box office get the top awards. I figured it'd be in the air between Heath and Phillip Seymour Hoffman for Doubt.

I kinda wanted Hoffman to win, as he's a great actor. But an exec at Warner Bros. was asked how you top Heath as Joker and his response was "Phillip Hoffman as Penguin." Gossip, sure, but I'd love to see it happen.

So I guess nobody was really shocked that Heath Ledger won for The Joker. I loved his performance, but it seemed almost as if they had to give it to him, namely due to his death and the fact the flick made something like a billion dollars. Generally, it seems all the 'lower budgeted' movies that don't bring in a lot of box office get the top awards. I figured it'd be in the air between Heath and Phillip Seymour Hoffman for Doubt.

I kinda wanted Hoffman to win, as he's a great actor. But an exec at Warner Bros. was asked how you top Heath as Joker and his response was "Phillip Hoffman as Penguin." Gossip, sure, but I'd love to see it happen.

Small note: the Dark Knight finally surpassed a billion dollars very recently, actually. That makes it only the 4th film to top the big B mark. I'd also have to say it is the best of the four - the others being Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest, Titanic, and Return of the King.