GuestThe thing with being linux gamer while using steam is that it doesn't make much difference if u use steam on linux or windows, it is still the same platform.

Oh but it does make a difference! That's like saying if you're going to drive a car, it doesn't matter which lane you're going to drive it on. Or, with less hyperbole, if you're going to run Firefox, if doesn't matter which operating system you run it on. I might not be able to trust all of my software, but I'd rather trust some of it than none.

GuestIts same with devs now people gonna stop use github because Microsoft acquired them so they gonna start use gitlab that collabs with google, another corporate billionaire company, that does same practises that microsoft, collects and sell all data...

It seems like devs etc. have huge knowledge about coding, but they lack of basics like they gonna go to gitlab (google) from microsoft github and it's gonna make huge difference for them, gosh...

You must have missed the fact that gitlab is open source and can be self-hosted. You don't need to trust them with your data. Along with the fact that the company isn't owned by Google.

The super paranoid will move because of Microsoft. Nothing will change that, especially with the history Microsoft has.

Me? I'm indifferent now, especially considering I'm using VSCode a lot (good grief it caused me so much pain trying to come to terms with it being good but also MS). But I have removed all my personal projects and hosted them on my NAS (a QNAP one) using a Docker image for gitea (which is minimal and quite fast compared to gitlab). It was just something that I'd been meaning to do for a while.

What I would love to see is something like a gogs and/or gitea inspired federation of self-hosted git sites. Kind of hoping this Microsoft fear spurs that on.

As for what MS does with Github? I doubt they will change too much, they have a bad history and they know it - they'll be working overtime to get past that.

Meanwhile though - they'll have unfettered access to competitors source until they move it (yes, even the private repos which I'm fairly sure are accessible internally, they won't be encrypted). And that's good reason to move.

Many quite bizare things about this still. Considering Github was not a public company, with an evaluation like that you have to wonder if they were planning an IPO.

GitHub has at least some of their infrastructure on AWS. I don't imagine their monthly bill is small either. Would be a bit of a hit on Amazon if/when they inevetiably move to azure. Hell the loss of business to fastly and cloudfront(their current cdns), is going to hurt. Appears they've already pulled www.github.com from CF. Wouldn't go anywhere near them atm.

Out of everything else, it's the Linux Foundation backing this that confuses me the most.

Would be interesting if projects used github as a storage backend.. encrypted of course. Could be something simple like encryptfs (files) or blobs. Any passwords would be published on gitlab, point is the data would be unusable to MS.

devnullWould be interesting if projects used github as a storage backend.. encrypted of course. Could be something simple like encryptfs (files) or blobs. Any passwords would be published on gitlab, point is the data would be unusable to MS.

I'm pretty certain that Microsoft is _not_ interested in the data/code that lives in the github repositories. My impression is that they are focused to get more (paying) customers for hosting in Azure from the organizations/companies that already host their code in Github by a better integration between Github and Azure services, something that AWS/Google can't offer.

devnullWould be interesting if projects used github as a storage backend.. encrypted of course. Could be something simple like encryptfs (files) or blobs. Any passwords would be published on gitlab, point is the data would be unusable to MS.

I'm pretty certain that Microsoft is _not_ interested in the data/code that lives in the github repositories. My impression is that they are focused to get more (paying) customers for hosting in Azure from the organizations/companies that already host their code in Github by a better integration between Github and Azure services, something that AWS/Google can't offer.

Without the data, github is nothing. By getting direct access Microsoft will, as is the case with everything they touch, be in a rather awkward position of knowning exactly who to target and what their usecase is.
ANY corporate / private organization should be pulling their data asap.

To futher understand why that is creepy you have to understand Microsoft's overall analytics position. Through their licensing "audits" (more like shakedowns), they already know what hardware you run and to a large degree what your internal structure is like. They ALREADY use that data to target specific employees / groups. Now they add access to your code and it becomes very easy to build a walled garden around you.

This is the shit they engage in with Enterprises (Government is included in that). By the time you realize how far they have you by the balls it's entirely too late.