Equine Project

JeffLianza

It's me again, here's a new project I started a month ago after the Lion. I have a question re the new Ziva 1.6.
I've read from the documentation about the Ztransfers, is it possible to transfer the existing muscles of the lion (anything I can salvage) to the horse bones? Hoping I can save more time from sculpting a new set of muscles for the horse. Looking forward on your thoughts.

Jeff

gaelkerchenbaum

Hi Jeff,

Looking cool so far. Not sure you'll be able to transfer the lion to the horse because the number of bones is different, so it'll mess with the vertex order probably. Same for the envelope/skin from the horse to the lion, not possible to get the same topology between the two of them, so not sure it could work. I think the best way would be to transpose them manually within ZBrush using the move tools. Probably in a day or two you can transfer all the muscle anatomy, then you'll have to recreate your Ziva setup. It's just my thoughts tho, modeler thoughts and not tech anim ones.

Btw, doing horses I suggest not to only focus on ecorche from Ellenberger's book. I was doing that before, but you ended up creating a horse that is really blank and with no real existing breed. I did this Clydesdale anatomy study that we will make available later on 3dScanStore:

JeffLianza

gaelkerchenbaum Hey man, this looks great. Yes I realized that Ellenberger's anatomy of the horse is very generic maybe that's why there were silhouettes of a different kind. I will probably follow the book then change proportions afterwards, for now it is the easiest to refer to, do you have any recommendations for the reference?

Looking forward on your release, I might grab it for study and reference purposes. Cheers man.

andy_vs

Yeah lions and horses are fairly different. I think the higher up the taxonomic hierarchy the two animals converge, the more manual work you'll have to do to get the anatomy right.

Warping tools could get you to a good place to start sculpting from. Our lion was originally adapted from a warp of an elephant.

JeffLianza

andy_vs Ahh, yes that was the one I saw previously, so the lion came from the elephant and not the other way around. I already started modelling the muscles manually and about to finalize and double check them.