I'm serious. At least going into The Avengers, studio could project a stream of success from all the solo films. Each one doing good to great business, so you have an idea where you might land with The Avengers at worse.

But with Justice League, they say it has no connection to Nolan's Batman and by the time it comes out there will only be one film its connected to and its Man of Steel. I doubt they are treating JL as a direct sequel to Man of Steel, so you can judge one from the other.

If JL bombs, how does that set back everything at DC/WB? We have seen WB take considerably long time developing projects and really not having the success rate they would want with titles not named Batman. If JL pulls in big box office and mediocre/ok reviews, WB probably wont mind, but if they put up Green Lantern figures, it will be a disappointment and how does that hurt the business of live action adaptations?

It's no "what if". JLA IS going to bomb. The reason its going to bomb is because of every reason most DC movies bomb. GL was a rushed shallow movie for children. WB treats DC comics like a pimp would a cheap prostitute. WB doesn't invest or hire people with real passion and understanding of DC characters. They are just trying to make a movie to make profits.

Nolan's Batman trilogy has heart and soul behind it & it was well written wasn't rushed or had any outside studio influence. Essentially it was just like Star Wars & TESB no studio interference. JLA is going to be just like Superman 3, 4, Batman Forever, Batman & Robin & Green Lantern. Rushed to get to the big screen, it will have big names like Bats and Supes but its going to be a total flop.

We already have an established Batman who isn't participating, MOS obviously has nothing to do with JLA ect ect so its just down right stupid to rush and shoot the film next year for a 2015 release.

WB is just trying to rush any old thing to the big screen, I bet you JLA won't break 400 million simply because WW, GL, Flash & MM haven't been established on screen plus people will be asking why Bale & Cavill aren't involved with the project.

It's no "what if". JLA IS going to bomb. The reason its going to bomb is because of every reason most DC movies bomb. GL was a rushed shallow movie for children. WB treats DC comics like a pimp would a cheap prostitute. WB doesn't invest or hire people with real passion and understanding of DC characters. They are just trying to make a movie to make profits.

Nolan's Batman trilogy has heart and soul behind it & it was well written wasn't rushed or had any outside studio influence. Essentially it was just like Star Wars & TESB no studio interference. JLA is going to be just like Superman 3, 4, Batman Forever, Batman & Robin & Green Lantern. Rushed to get to the big screen, it will have big names like Bats and Supes but its going to be a total flop.

We already have an established Batman who isn't participating, MOS obviously has nothing to do with JLA ect ect so its just down right stupid to rush and shoot the film next year for a 2015 release.

WB is just trying to rush any old thing to the big screen, I bet you JLA won't break 400 million simply because WW, GL, Flash & MM haven't been established on screen plus people will be asking why Bale & Cavill aren't involved with the project.

I cannot comprehend a Justice League movie bombing - even if the film itself ends up being complete garbage. It's just one of those things that I simply cannot compute.

Superman and Batman together on-screen will put asses in seats all on its own. Wonder Woman is one of THE biggest female icons in American pop culture, and should easily bring female accessibility to the film (and consequently, the female demographic). The Flash is building in popularity, and any misgivings the general audience may have toward Green Lantern will be lessened by having those other characters as support.

The key for WB is to not hold back. Gather the best talent around this project. Go all-out on the scale and spectacle. Show people that THIS is how a superhero team-up should be done. They do that, and it's a sure-fire hit.

If WB introduces these characters in a large-scale event film, and if they do their job right, then people should walk away from The Justice League wanting to see more of these characters - notably Wonder Woman, The Flash, and Green Lantern. Then WB can roll out the solo films.

My predictions: DC films, headed by JL, bombs so miserably that WB almost goes bankrupt. Yes. They have to sell all the rights to DC properties, all of which are bought by Marvel. Yup. Then we see the Dark Knight, the Man of Steel, the Scarlet Speedster and the Green Lantern in the MCU. Yes, you can now crown me your king.

I cannot comprehend a Justice League movie bombing - even if the film itself ends up being complete garbage. It's just one of those things that I simply cannot compute.

Superman and Batman together on-screen will put asses in the seat all on its own. Wonder Woman is one of THE biggest female icons in American pop culture, and should easily bring female accessibility to the film (and consequently, the female demographic). The Flash is building in popularity, and any misgivings the general audience may have toward Green Lantern will be lessened by having those other characters as support.

The key for WB is to not hold back. Gather the best talent around this project. Go all-out on the scale and spectacle. Show people that THIS is how a superhero team-up should be done. They do that, and it's a sure-fire hit.

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The way I see it is this.

If WB introduces these characters in a large-scale event film, and if they do their job right, then people should walk away from The Justice League wanting to see more of these characters - notably Wonder Woman, The Flash, and Green Lantern. Then WB can roll out the solo films.

These posts are right on the money. It really isn't as difficult as some posters on here are making it out to be. JL won't bomb financially because of Batman and Superman alone. We'll see next year if they've learned from their GL mistakes, but I really think they have and JL will be a mega-blockbuster event film. Just imagining the midnight showings for JL is mindblowing. It's going to be so ****ing crazy!

If WB introduces these characters in a large-scale event film, and if they do their job right, then people should walk away from The Justice League wanting to see more of these characters - notably Wonder Woman, The Flash, and Green Lantern. Then WB can roll out the solo films.

Agreed.

Will be really interesting to see if WB go with;

A) Christian Bale (money talks)
B) JGL
C) a brand new batman

if WB manage to go with 'A' then you can add 200m to the box office right out of the gate.

Justice League can bomb, or at least disappoint. If the budget goes out of control, and they fill the cast with mediocre or terrible actors (like they tried to do last time around) that nobody likes, then the movie will fail to launch a sequel or spin off into solo films. Justice League will probably make over $200 million on the strength of Superman and Batman, but the rest of the characters' fates are up in the air. That's why I don't like this team-up first strategy. It's putting all of their eggs in one basket.

The Bale Batman is off the table, given the way that TDKR ended. Nolan's trilogy is finished after taking Bruce Wayne through a complete arc. Its ending basically closes the door on any sequels or spin offs. If the WB tries to bring back that version of Batman, I think Nolan would walk.

Justice League isn't going to bomb, it's going to make at least $700M WW.

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There are a lot of variables and uncertainties to consider though. Man of Steel's success, people's reaction to a new Batman, how good the movie is in comparison to Avengers 2 which comes before it in the same year, the star power, how well cast the actors are, how well the characters play off each other. Avengers only had to worry about a couple of those.

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But considering The Avengers made almost 1.6 billion, anything under 1 billion will probably still seen as disappointing by the industry.

The Avengers experienced the perfect storm though. It went up against weak competition (Battleship, Dark Shadows and MIB3). On top of which, The Avengers had a build up with solo films.

Now, does Justice League need a build up like The Avengers did? No. It'll be immensely successful if the movie is of high quality. Will it make as much as The Avengers? Doubtful. No film will surpass 1.5 billion again until The Avatar sequel hits theaters.

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