Also has anyone else tried it yet? I did spend most of the day on it, a little feedback would be nice, lol
ttuuxxx

I installed the full version of Opera the other day and have been using that when I'm not using links.

I'm in your version now and it's working fine I think, it couldn't play videos at cnn until I downloaded the flash plugin from adobe and replaced the one in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins with the one that I downloaded which is 2 mb larger than the one that was in there.
They still don't play great on this pc but not too bad, youtube videos play fine.

Hi sheldonisaac I never use sfs for any single files,I always use pets, sfs are great for the main iso and well that's where it ends for myself, I even convert the devx to a pet and install it that way. There is no reason at all to use a sfs for a 9MB application, larger apps like OpenOffice ya sure.
sfs compress files better than pets, around 20% +, so its a savings, but when they are only 9MB, really it doesn't matter all that much.

I can't get 214x-top6 to boot, from a frugal install, on my Athlon64-x2. The live CD boots OK. Here is a screencap of how it fails. I have tried adding nosmp to the kernel line in menu.lst. Here is the boot line in menu.lst:

***edited next day: I succeeded in booting the frugal install by moving all the Puppy files to the top directory of the boot partition and using

kernel /vmlinuz ro pmedia=atahd pdev1=hda3 root=/dev/ram0

***

I notice that this frugal install of 214x-top6 will not read a savefile created by the live CD. Just a minute, I'll tell you if it will read a savefile created by itself...yep, it will. Too bad it picks up on another savefile, which *is* inside a psubdir...see posts below.Last edited by Sit Heel Speak on Sun 06 Feb 2011, 15:01; edited 3 times in total

I can't get 214x-top6 to boot, from a frugal install, on my Athlon64-x2. The live CD boots OK. Here is a screencap of how it fails. I have tried adding nosmp to the kernel line in menu.lst. Here is the boot line in menu.lst:

It looks like your save files are located in a directory folder , move them to the top level outside of any directory folder. that should help. I don't usually do frugal installs but I think I recall that older puppies didn't like directory folder saves.
Should probably work on that.
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I can't get 214x-top6 to boot, from a frugal install, on my Athlon64-x2.

This computer has an ASUS P5A motherboard and an AMD K6-2-450 processor, both from about 1999, I think.
I've never done other than frugal Puppy on this computer.

Quote:

The live CD boots OK. Here is a screencap of how it fails.
I have tried adding nosmp to the kernel line in menu.lst. Here is the boot line in menu.lst:
kernel /214x-top6/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd pdev1=sda3 psubdir=214x-top6 root=/dev/ram0 nosmp

I copied some of your kernel line parameters, will paste my latest at the bottom

Quote:

It looks like your save files are located in a directory folder , move them to the top level outside of any directory folder. that should help. I don't usually do frugal installs but I think I recall that older puppies didn't like directory folder saves. Should probably work on that.
ttuuxxx

As I recall, it was only when I put the Puppy files in the root of the partition that 214X booted OK.

Haven't yet gotten it to work on the newish Acer Aspire One; maybe some what you two have said will help.

man I wish puppy was made for more cpu types The 3 Sun Micro Systems blade 1500 I was given have sparc 64 cpu's in them, I just spent all weekend trying to find a workable Linux Os for it, most of them are confusing, like gentoo you have install/configure everything via the terminal, including networking, I managed to get about 80% of it installed, then I said ^#$%#$# lol try something else, I tried about 10 different ones, The best one was debian-6.0.0-sparc-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso but the xfce video resolution selector was complete crap it gave me a couple of selections, but wouldn't let me change drivers or monitor freq etc, funny things like puppy's xorgwizard is 2000000% better.
It doesn't come with a synaptic so I opened a terminal and typed su then the password
and then typed apt -get install synaptic and then I selected kde full, lol 567 extra packages to install and a additional 1206MB used on the hard drive, I figured why not, I can remove xfce, OpenOffice, and a few others and probably almost recover the 1.2gb I just installed. I'll let ya know how it goes

Yep, the frugal install reads the savefile which it itself created. Strange that it won't read the one created by the live CD.

Unfortunately, the init also picks up on the existence of my boxpup-421-retro savefile, which is in psubdir /boxpup-421-retro, so the init process halts to give me the choice between the two.

Perhaps study of the init and Puppy Universal Installer of boxpup-421-retro might yield clues as to how to make 214x create the installation in a psubdir, and work properly while co-existing with other frugal installs in their own psubdir's.

Anyway, on now to see if I can make my unmodified Opera .pet and/or .sfs work in it...done.Last edited by Sit Heel Speak on Sun 06 Feb 2011, 17:17; edited 1 time in total

Yep, the frugal install reads the savefile which it itself created. Strange that it won't read the one created by the live CD.

Unfortunately, the init also picks up on the existence of my boxpup-421-retro savefile, which is in psubdir /boxpup-421-retro, so the init process halts to give me the choice between the two.

Perhaps study of the init and Puppy Universal Installer of boxpup-421-retro might yield clues as to how to make 214x create the installation in a psubdir, and work properly while co-existing with other frugal installs in their own psubdir's.

Anyway, on now to see if I can make my unmodified Opera .pet and/or .sfs work in it...

There was a (semi?)-conclusive discussion on this a few thousand ( ) posts back in this thread.
I don't remember all the variants of how to enable having all 214X-files in a sub-directory, though. I simply applied the full-caboodle solution and have only copied/pasted/modified the GRUB entries for new 214X frugal installations. At times I've had a lot of them frugally installed, all in their own sub-dir.
Anyway, I'll attach the GRUB entry I use, with the reservation that some parts could be superfluous.

...There was a (semi?)-conclusive discussion on this a few thousand ( ) posts back in this thread...MHHP

Ah. I see. Thanks.

However, I don't think I will be lingering here. Puppy Studio 3.3, with icewm reconfigured a bit, suits my needs so well --it is the first Puppy, ever, that I actually find pleasant to use-- --heck, I'm in freakin' love with the thing-- that I now find it painful to use other Puppies.

Here is one of the things I find most painful about 214x-top6. This is not meant to take away from the prodigious amount of work which ttuuxxx has put into it, but, I find these scrunched-up columns in Rox to be unacceptable:
http://i54.tinypic.com/2e2pm6p.png

Also, when you have as many files in a subdirectory as I do, the older disk drivers in kernel 2.6.18.n just do not compare with the speed of the ones in newer kernels, i.e. I fall asleep waiting for rox and find.

Here is one of the things I find most painful about 214x-top6. This is not meant to take away from the prodigious amount of work which ttuuxxx has put into it, but, I find these scrunched-up columns in Rox to be unacceptable:
http://i54.tinypic.com/2e2pm6p.png

Hmm I never had rox look like that, are you sure you didn't reconfigure it? Are you sure you don't have a pupsave from 2.14R, I remember it looked like that. Below is what it looks like when you bootup live. Rox also has never been slow on 2.14X, well not on any of my pc's. The only time its a bit slower compared to 4&5 series is when I install very large pets, around 80+ MB
ttuuxxx

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