Ray Faricy was a DFL House member. The 1978 elections: Faricy sees the DFL defeat as a combination of a troubled state-wide ticket, Governor Perpich's inability to mount an organized campaign, and the legislative pay increases and pensions. The negotiations and the 1979 session: Faricy felt that one-vote majority in 1980 was just as hard as the tie in 1979. He reminisces about the 1971 session when the Republicans had a 70-65 edge; he recalls that it was not easy for the IR with a five-vote lead. Faricy feels a good majority is at least ten votes. He feels the Johnson vs. Anderson fight was "a continuation of a problem that had existed in the DFL for some time." He does say that the Johnson supporters tended to be from districts which were more politically independent. Faricy feels that with the Pavlak case in court the negotions lacked urgency. When the decision came down saying Pavlak could stay in the House, Faricy says it was Niel Dietricht who talked the DFL Senate caucus into financing the appeal. Faricy says that the speaker was lost to the DFL when Kostohryz had his heart attack. He says it was his idea to offer the Republicans the Appropriations Committee. The coalition: Faricy says that he knew Anderson would not be able to maintain control of the caucus if Frank Rodriguez was elected. He said that after the election he visited Anderson and told him there were at least ten DFLers who would not vote for Irv Anderson. Anderson did not believe him. He said the election of Fred Norton caused the DFL leadership to split and this split caused the directionless caucus.