For those seeking a healthy diet to follow during pregnancy here's a link to the ACOG diet (American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology)

http://www.preeclampsia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1820

But we must mention that the Preeclampsia Foundation does not endorse any diet and encourages all women (particularly those with special considerations such as diabetes and kidney disease) to consult their doctors before trying any diet that they read about either here, elsewhere on the web, or through word of mouth.

Laura
Forum Administrator

For those seeking a healthy diet to follow during pregnancy here's a link to the ACOG diet (American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology)

http://www.preeclampsia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1820

But we must mention that the Preeclampsia Foundation does not endorse any diet and encourages all women (particularly those with special considerations such as diabetes and kidney disease) to consult their doctors before trying any diet that they read about either here, elsewhere on the web, or through word of mouth.

Coentities, thanks for sharing your opinion. In the best interests and health of our members we try not to deal with anecdotal evidence and supposition here, and have no compunction with highlighting the difference between science and opinion. To do anything else would be unkind. We follow the lead of our Expert Medical Board who agrees with this "opinion" (more vehemently than we do, I can mention.)

I can only assume from what you've mentioned that you don't have preeclampsia, nor have you had preeclampsia, so unfortunately, that precludes you from weighing in on this debate. People who have this disease feel differently than people who have not. I'd like to point you to this thread from another Bradley/Brewer alumna who was also feeling pretty satisfied around week 13:
http://www.preeclampsia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2274

This topic has been discussed ad nauseum and at this point, there's really nothing else to say- all that's left is cheerleading. And no, shame on ME for not letting everyone be heard, because I'm making an executive decision and locking this topic. Our members seeking information can learn what they need to from this link from our Medical Experts:
http://www.preeclampsia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3919

Links to the site in question will be edited, we don't permit links to commercial sites that purport to treat, cure, or otherwise mitigate the causes or effects of preeclampsia.

Laura
Forum Administrator

Coentities, thanks for sharing your opinion. In the best interests and health of our members we try not to deal with anecdotal evidence and supposition here, and have no compunction with highlighting the difference between science and opinion. To do anything else would be unkind. We follow the lead of our Expert Medical Board who agrees with this "opinion" (more vehemently than we do, I can mention.)

I can only assume from what you've mentioned that you don't have preeclampsia, nor have you had preeclampsia, so unfortunately, that precludes you from weighing in on this debate. People who have this disease feel differently than people who have not. I'd like to point you to this thread from another Bradley/Brewer alumna who was also feeling pretty satisfied around week 13:
http://www.preeclampsia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2274

This topic has been discussed ad nauseum and at this point, there's really nothing else to say- all that's left is cheerleading. And no, shame on ME for not letting everyone be heard, because I'm making an executive decision and locking this topic. Our members seeking information can learn what they need to from this link from our Medical Experts:
http://www.preeclampsia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3919

Links to the site in question will be edited, we don't permit links to commercial sites that purport to treat, cure, or otherwise mitigate the causes or effects of preeclampsia.

I had to register just to be able to step in and say that I have had MANY friends who have done the Brewer diet and have had TERRIFIC outcomes. In fact one had toxemia in a previous pregnancy and had a 50% chance of getting it again. She didn't. I am really surprised at the way Sarah as well as the Midwife were attacked, not just by other members but by you Anne - come on now 'shame on you'??? Well shame on you for not allowing someone to voice their opinions. I am on the Brewer/Bradley diet and have to say that I have had NO complications - not even morning sickness. It makes sense, why wouldn't you encourage someone to try it? Ok, maybe it's not an all cure, but there is no way that it can hurt you - it's a HEALTHY diet. I am in week 13 and have gained 4 pounds, much less then my friends who are 'free for all'. Bravo to you who are willing to give it a try - check ou the support pages at the Bradley website, it's a lot more encouraging than this one. [:(!]

I had to register just to be able to step in and say that I have had MANY friends who have done the Brewer diet and have had TERRIFIC outcomes. In fact one had toxemia in a previous pregnancy and had a 50% chance of getting it again. She didn't. I am really surprised at the way Sarah as well as the Midwife were attacked, not just by other members but by you Anne - come on now 'shame on you'??? Well shame on you for not allowing someone to voice their opinions. I am on the Brewer/Bradley diet and have to say that I have had NO complications - not even morning sickness. It makes sense, why wouldn't you encourage someone to try it? Ok, maybe it's not an all cure, but there is no way that it can hurt you - it's a HEALTHY diet. I am in week 13 and have gained 4 pounds, much less then my friends who are 'free for all'. Bravo to you who are willing to give it a try - check ou the support pages at the Bradley website, it's a lot more encouraging than this one. [:(!]

Hopefully it is a cure for some women. It is unfortunate that something as simple as healthy eating is contentious--I think that is in part because many women--either due to extreme poverty, or hyperemesis--cannot control what nutrition they bring into their bodies so the diet cure is a frustrating one. And there are others, like me, with autoimmune diseases, and no matter how healthy your diet--you still are at risk.

I like to say--pregnancy is like a glass of water. If you start with a bit of extra weight--that is 1 oz, if you start with pre-existing hypertension, another oz, if you had preeclampsia before, three ounces, if you have an autoimmune disorder add an ounce. Pregnancy itself is a full six-ounces. Preeclampsia is when the cup runneth over the edge. Some women--who just have a normal cup--no extra water in there already--will be able to use a healthy diet to keep the disease at bay--other women won't. There is no question that we have our share of challenges. I am grateful that we can support one another--whatever path we take. In the end--a healthy baby and mother is our goal. I would be the first person to thank Dr. Brewer if his diet actually prevented this disease.

Thanks for the healthy debate.

Anne

Hopefully it is a cure for some women. It is unfortunate that something as simple as healthy eating is contentious--I think that is in part because many women--either due to extreme poverty, or hyperemesis--cannot control what nutrition they bring into their bodies so the diet cure is a frustrating one. And there are others, like me, with autoimmune diseases, and no matter how healthy your diet--you still are at risk.

I like to say--pregnancy is like a glass of water. If you start with a bit of extra weight--that is 1 oz, if you start with pre-existing hypertension, another oz, if you had preeclampsia before, three ounces, if you have an autoimmune disorder add an ounce. Pregnancy itself is a full six-ounces. Preeclampsia is when the cup runneth over the edge. Some women--who just have a normal cup--no extra water in there already--will be able to use a healthy diet to keep the disease at bay--other women won't. There is no question that we have our share of challenges. I am grateful that we can support one another--whatever path we take. In the end--a healthy baby and mother is our goal. I would be the first person to thank Dr. Brewer if his diet actually prevented this disease.

I don't know if you were serious when you asked if Dr. Brewer recommends anything for women with slower metabolisms. However if you are serious and would like to know what his books says, here are a couple of excerpts.

When to start the Diet:

"A 2,000 calorie per day intake and a well balanced diet when you're not pregnant probably meet the needs of most women of childbearing age. Your calorie needs increase progressively as pregnancy goes on, even if your activity level remains the same. Growing a baby takes a lot of calories. In the first few months of pregnancy, the baby is very tiny and doesn't require large amounts of nutrients, so your appetite may not tell you to eat more. But usually by the fourth or fifth month the 2,500 - 3,000 calorie range becomes more like it, and your appetite increases. If it doesn't you need to find out why."

Calories and Protein:

"The overall aim is for the mother expecting one baby to have 2,600 calories and 100 grams of protein each day, plus salt and other essential minerals and vitamins she needs.... In a normal pregnancy, the mother develops a good appetite, so the single rule governing amounts of food is: eat to appetite. Mothers who are underweight at conception may develop much larger appetites during pregnancy than those of normal weight. Mothers expecting twins or super multiples, need a minimum of 500 more calories and 30 grams more protein daily -for each extra baby."

Sarah

Hi Taras Mom,

I don't know if you were serious when you asked if Dr. Brewer recommends anything for women with slower metabolisms. However if you are serious and would like to know what his books says, here are a couple of excerpts.

When to start the Diet:

"A 2,000 calorie per day intake and a well balanced diet when you're not pregnant probably meet the needs of most women of childbearing age. Your calorie needs increase progressively as pregnancy goes on, even if your activity level remains the same. Growing a baby takes a lot of calories. In the first few months of pregnancy, the baby is very tiny and doesn't require large amounts of nutrients, so your appetite may not tell you to eat more. But usually by the fourth or fifth month the 2,500 - 3,000 calorie range becomes more like it, and your appetite increases. If it doesn't you need to find out why."

Calories and Protein:

"The overall aim is for the mother expecting one baby to have 2,600 calories and 100 grams of protein each day, plus salt and other essential minerals and vitamins she needs.... In a normal pregnancy, the mother develops a good appetite, so the single rule governing amounts of food is: eat to appetite. Mothers who are underweight at conception may develop much larger appetites during pregnancy than those of normal weight. Mothers expecting twins or super multiples, need a minimum of 500 more calories and 30 grams more protein daily -for each extra baby."

I got caught up in the exchange of mails on this subject and was aghast at the condescending treatment you received. . . .

I have been a childbirth educator, doula and midwife for 20 years and thankfully NEVER run into preeclampsia which frankly makes my track
record better than your list mates! Grin.

I congratulate you on your track record and your lack of condescension. Grin.

quote:I sense as did you that many of these woman abdicated themselves from their participation in their wellbeing and in their births.

I sense that your lack of experience with preeclampsia is feeding your well-nourished schadenfreude.

quote:. . . ultimately it is the mom who controls what she ingests and what her baby receives.

With a little help from the placenta. You have your reading cut out for you.

quote:Bad diets are linked to stillborn babies, low birth weight babies, premature babies, and infection prone babies. Your list mates can decry this fact all that they want and deny personal responsibilty too for that matter but the fact remains is that a better nourished mom doesn't have to feel guilty about her lousy habits IF she were to encounter any of above problems in her baby and a poorly nourished mom can't absolve herself quite so easily!

What a relief! As a well-nourished mom, I'd love to share this guilt-free feeling with my daughter someday. If only the nutrients had reached her.

Hey, ladies, I must be pregnant again! I feel the morning sickness already. [xx(]

(Note to Anne: In the interest of civility, I'll refrain from suggesting additional icons for the Smilies menu.)

quote:Originally posted by Joni

I got caught up in the exchange of mails on this subject and was aghast at the condescending treatment you received. . . .

I have been a childbirth educator, doula and midwife for 20 years and thankfully NEVER run into preeclampsia which frankly makes my track
record better than your list mates! Grin.

I congratulate you on your track record and your lack of condescension. Grin.

quote:I sense as did you that many of these woman abdicated themselves from their participation in their wellbeing and in their births.

I sense that your lack of experience with preeclampsia is feeding your well-nourished schadenfreude.

quote:. . . ultimately it is the mom who controls what she ingests and what her baby receives.

With a little help from the placenta. You have your reading cut out for you.

quote:Bad diets are linked to stillborn babies, low birth weight babies, premature babies, and infection prone babies. Your list mates can decry this fact all that they want and deny personal responsibilty too for that matter but the fact remains is that a better nourished mom doesn't have to feel guilty about her lousy habits IF she were to encounter any of above problems in her baby and a poorly nourished mom can't absolve herself quite so easily!

What a relief! As a well-nourished mom, I'd love to share this guilt-free feeling with my daughter someday. If only the nutrients had reached her.

Hey, ladies, I must be pregnant again! I feel the morning sickness already. [xx(]

(Note to Anne: In the interest of civility, I'll refrain from suggesting additional icons for the Smilies menu.)