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That's actually a pretty attractive and tidy setup compared to the other small cells I've seen. The whole thing could be pretty easily confused for a coax splice box and an oddly-mounted transformer by a layperson.

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That's actually a pretty attractive and tidy setup compared to the other small cells I've seen. The whole thing could be pretty easily confused for a coax splice box and an oddly-mounted transformer by a layperson.

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I noticed these were named small cells vs Nokia mini macros. Do these provide less coverage than the Nokia?

Small cells is a category and can include pico cells, femto cells, DAS setups, and "mini macros" which are small cell type units with the power output of a macro radio.

The Airspan 1000's are low powered pico cells (2x5w) while Airspan 4000's can be considered "mini macros" as they can do 2x20w like the Nokia Mini Macro 2x20w. So I just named it small cells to cover both types.

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Small cells is a category and can include pico cells, femto cells, DAS setups, and "mini macros" which are small cell type units with the power output of a macro radio.

The Airspan 1000's are low powered pico cells (2x5w) while Airspan 4000's can be considered "mini macros" as they can do 2x20w like the Nokia Mini Macro 2x20w. So I just named it small cells to cover both types.

That's good to know. I was only concerned because the person on Reddit said they saw four of these in a three block area, which seems excessive in a town under 20k.

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Also just because they can broadcast high power doesn't mean they have to. Just like a wifi router, you can set the Tx power at whatever you want given the hardware and government limits.

Wow! Talk about endless capacity. Rent must be cheap for those poles, then. I was thinking they were going to blast them to somewhat replicate needed band 41 macros to minimize rent costs - but that works for me, too!

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Wow! Talk about endless capacity. Rent must be cheap for those poles, then. I was thinking they were going to blast them to somewhat replicate needed band 41 macros to minimize rent costs - but that works for me, too!

Actually..... That's what they're doing with the Huawei clearwire sites that they must completely decommission by the end of this year... ....

But yeah. They just negotiate for mass approval with the city municipal entities. Easy pz.

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I'm wondering if this site in Willmar is the reason why I get B41 at my house. There is only 1 B41 tower in town that has been broadcasting for 2 years now, and just a few months ago I started getting B41 in one room in my house. It's a -110 to -122db connection, so really slow speeds. If I can get a location as to where it is, I can get more speedtests and pictures of the setup!

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Don't forget that poles are measured in their entirely. You have to add what is buried to what you see above ground to get pole length.

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ANSI standard setting for a 75 ft. wood pole is about 10 ft. So, you're still looking at about 65 ft. above ground.

I stopped by a proposed Mobilitie site in Los Angeles, and I can't imagine the neighbors are going to be very happy when they find out there's a 75 foot pole going up in their front yards. I want these small cells badly, but someone isn't using common sense with some of these proposed sites.

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I'm wondering if this site in Willmar is the reason why I get B41 at my house. There is only 1 B41 tower in town that has been broadcasting for 2 years now, and just a few months ago I started getting B41 in one room in my house. It's a -110 to -122db connection, so really slow speeds. If I can get a location as to where it is, I can get more speedtests and pictures of the setup!

This has help me track down a few sites around me. I just created a new fusion table and through the csv in to filter out the GCIs and found were the towers should be. If it is a small cell with only one sector something like cellmapper won't help and SCP logs will only get you in the area.

ANSI standard setting for a 75 ft. wood pole is about 10 ft. So, you're still looking at about 65 ft. above ground.

I stopped by a proposed Mobilitie site in Los Angeles, and I can't imagine the neighbors are going to be very happy when they find out there's a 75 foot pole going up in their front yards. I want these small cells badly, but someone isn't using common sense with some of these proposed sites.

A lot of them will be attached to lights already in the ground and I think they will be hard to spot unless you know what you are looking for.

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ANSI standard setting for a 75 ft. wood pole is about 10 ft. So, you're still looking at about 65 ft. above ground.

I stopped by a proposed Mobilitie site in Los Angeles, and I can't imagine the neighbors are going to be very happy when they find out there's a 75 foot pole going up in their front yards. I want these small cells badly, but someone isn't using common sense with some of these proposed sites.

They are. They are just applying common sense differently that you are. They are applying it to maximizing coverage while minimizing cost. The higher the tower the more area 2.5 will cover affectively, the fewer sites they need and the lower that CAPEX spend and up keep costs. Sprint doesn't have money to burn, especially given recent moves by other players in the market. I don't think it is a choice between one 75 foot pole or 3-4 30 foot poles for sprint. I think it is a choice between a 75 foot pole or one 30 foot pole.

A vast majority of the sites in L.A. are on existing street light poles, and most people probably won't notice them.

My concern was specifically about sites that are likely to get negative attention from community members. I think with some proposals Mobilitie is going to face a lot of opposition which is going to result in delays and extra costs.

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They are. They are just applying common sense differently that you are. They are applying it to maximizing coverage while minimizing cost. The higher the tower the more area 2.5 will cover affectively, the fewer sites they need and the lower that CAPEX spend and up keep costs. Sprint doesn't have money to burn, especially given recent moves by other players in the market. I don't think it is a choice between one 75 foot pole or 3-4 30 foot poles for sprint. I think it is a choice between a 75 foot pole or one 30 foot pole.

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I understand the CAPEX restrictions and appreciate the logic of using a higher structure. (And your analysis is probably correct.)

However, to say that it makes sense to submit proposals that only take into consideration technical requirements is ignoring the much larger world of politics and community activism.

I would like to see Mobilitie and Sprint succeed. I'm just concerned that some of these proposals are begging for opposition which will result in delays and additional expenses.

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Alpha Wireless Concealed Antenna Node
The following consists of Alpha Wireless Concealed Antenna Node (CAN) small cell sites.
This is a type of stealth setup for small cells where the small cell enodeB and relay antenna is located within the stealth enclosure which also acts as the antenna. This type of site is under beta trials with positive results and is likely to expand in deployment scope nationally to fulfill municipality requests for "good looking" small cells that they would approve.

The finished build.

Note the utilities attached to the pole and routed directly into the concealed antenna node where the small cell eNB and Relay backhaul antenna are located. In traditional small cell deployments, like such they are mounted on the exterior with visible wires.
The following is an additional example of an Alpha Wireless CAN setup. Notice the CAN's position relative to the utility pole which is at an angle.

Here is another one that is a standalone metal pole install.

Photo Credits to dkyeager and the rest of the Ohio sponsor group that helped locate these small cells.

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I checked out your report; it all looks good, nothing to indicate that logging might not work. These logging glitches are very odd and difficult to reproduce across devices sometimes, and it drives me mad. As Robert mentioned before me, his Motorola had similar issues. I couldn't find anything wrong on my end but a couple of reboots did the trick. I have no idea how or why that would fix anything, but please give his suggestion a try and let me know..

I had this issue when I purchased a Moto Z2 Force. I uploaded my log file immediately after activating and installing SCP from my previous phone. Drove me nuts. What I finally did to solve the problem...I had to disable the logger, reboot, re-enable the logger, reboot and then it worked.
Robert

I think I have been experiencing that with low-numbered Verizon 1X IDs (I never connect to Verizon LTE). I assumed it was something on my end, but maybe it's related.. I'll have to try getting some specifics and monitor that thread.

Mike,
I don't know if it's related to the beta or not, but I got a new Moto E5 Play for US Cellular and everything seemed to be good with it. But I went on a several hour drive today, and when I got home, I found that the log had recorded nothing. No updates on existing rows, and no new rows. I checked and the logger is enabled, etc., and I've gone so far as to factory reset the phone and it's still not logging anything.
I sent you diagnostics in case you see something I don't. I am able to import and export log databases without issue, but it doesn't seem to want to actually write anything to the internal one.
- Trip