OKay this is what I've done to help. I'm not exactly sure how thorough it is for a beginner... I'm only slightly intermediate myself, but if you have questions on this just ask me and I'll explain it or make another tutorial to explain the question better. ;3 Hope this helps get some of you started off the ground!

Glad you guys liked it! If it was too much or needs more explanation in a certain area, let me know... I'll help to the best of my ability.

I'll be working a little bit in about color coordination too eventually. I think a page on light sourcing might be necessary in addition to the ones above, because light sources have to do with where to put shadows and directly affect the shapes forming in 3-D to the eye.

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Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:22 pm

Ian the Gecko

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:09 pmPosts: 56Location: Colorado

Re: Collaborative Artistic Improvement Thread

Thanks very much, Box!

Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:45 pm

QRS3000

Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:51 pmPosts: 220Images: 3

Re: Collaborative Artistic Improvement Thread

I'm having trouble drawing faces though it might not look like it to you. It's the change in the vertical plane where the facial features look squashed because I am using the same proportions when the face isn't either looking up or down. Now, I have heard of Loomis' box and the use of charting the x,y and z coordinates but I still make the same mistake. By qrs3000 at 2011-07-03 the guy on the far right is the one that looks off. Never mind that everything else could be improved. Also this was drawn in DA's muro tool... with a mouse... on a very slow E-Mac. So what would be better to use for a guide, a box or a sphere? http://www.ratemydrawings.com/drawings/black-white/775038.html this drawing link should have a lot more of the different head perspectives. I'm sorry if any of this is out of place.

When looking at faces, it's about proportioning more than the underlying box or square.... I'm kinda dumb with terminology but I had the same problems you're having. To draw things in different angles but have it retain its shape you need underlying structures... I'll make an example of how I do it. I haven't drawn a single human face since I started drawing my fursona and getting all the commissions but I should still be able to make a suitable example.

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Okay, here's what I got. I use the intersecting lines to coordinate facial proportioning, but to draw some of the poses like back 3/4 and looking down at a far angle you may need to have a model or familiarize yourself with how the face looks in such extreme angles. I recommend anatomy books, perhaps draw a model skull if available, and learn how the bones and muscle form into the face. A lot of drawing is understanding. THe more you understand, the easier it is to draw. I struggle with faces lots too and it's a constant battle, but hopefully what is said here can help. I may not have helped at all, if so, give me another post to specify and I'll try to the best of my abilities to help.

Thank you for the head perspective tutorial, Box O Lions. I'll try to implement the intersecting lines but what I really need to do is some serious anatomy studies (so far I haven't done any ) that way I can understand the underlying form of not only the head but the whole body. Have you ever taken any figure drawings classes and if you have how helpful have you found them?

I never took any classes. I was home-schooled and never had any resources to be able to take actual classes. i read encyclopedias, there are plenty of anatomy books that have plenty of angles. You can also look at comic books, yourself in a mirror, paintings, (very very very secure) nude art sights designed for the study of anatomy. References in libraries have plenty of website links that are secure, as do they also have books. Hmm... I just mashed up everything to help work it out. I suggest learning in your own way, if you prefer classes, find them. :3

I was asked to do a commission for someone... they weren't comfortable with the internet transfer thing so I asked him what he wanted... he said a wolf, so this is my shotty tutorial to help him. It's sorta late. *had stuff in the way* but hopefully it'll still help. :3

What exactly are you looking for? The color or the profile? I know you said everything... but... exactly what about everything? I could try to help you with the color scheme, shapes, design, inking... everything, but... I know you didn't mean you wanted all of that to be discussed, so what are you dissatisfied with?http://www.drawfurry.com/?p=46

iScribble is a free online program that lets people join a room, and talk/draw. You can see what people are drawing as they draw them. There are other programs that do this, and better, but I believe they cost money.

Hands are probably the hardest thing ever to draw. Lord knows we need more tutorials for them. Thanks, Box!

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Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:50 am

Psykeout

Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:15 pmPosts: 4579Images: 1

Re: Collaborative Artistic Improvement Thread

BOXBOX I'M GONNA HAVE TO STOP YOU THERE.

In males, the index finger is usually a little (not unnoticeably) shorter than the ring finger. In women, they are nearly the same size, but the rind finger may be a bit longer or shorter. This isn't set in stone by any means, and there are in fact some other interesting factors.

In males, the index finger is usually a little (not unnoticeably) shorter than the ring finger. In women, they are nearly the same size, but the rind finger may be a bit longer or shorter. This isn't set in stone by any means, and there are in fact some other interesting factors.

THere's the link to the best inking tutorial ever if you're using photoshop. The top tutorial is what I've been using, vectorial pen tool. Stroking the path or filling it is an either or and can be switched in between them in certain situations. :3 I haven't seen any for other programs but i bet they have something like the pen tool that uses vertexes somewhere. If I come across some I'll post em here too.

Okay... Well... I know this is like a triple post or a double post... but I can't decide whether to make separate posts for these things or not... but if a moderator has a problem with it... please contact me via PM. Thank you.

Alright, I have a challenge. This is something very specific.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVAd5Fr-4ao&feature=related In this tutorial, you'll notice that the color work is really loose and has the lines all over the place but then the artist cleans it up using some form of selection tool. If anyone knows what that is, how it works, or comes across anything about it... please let me know either in a PM, but preferably discuss it here so others can learn it too. It would be much appreciated. :3

Well, it's SAI, which I've never used, but it appears to be of similar function to yer magic wand. If the lines are clean enough (which mine usually aren't), you can just set it to "contiguous" and not "use all layers", and make a selection on the lineart layer. Or however it works in whatever Photoshop version you have, mine is somewhat outdated.

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Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:52 pm

Psykeout

Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:15 pmPosts: 4579Images: 1

Re: Collaborative Artistic Improvement Thread

"yeah you should get SAI""I don't have a tablet""oh, then that's useless. what do you have?""GiIMP""Yikes. I've only used Photoshop"

CAN WE ALL JUST GET ON THE SAME PROGRAM.

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Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:44 am

Laxan

Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:13 pmPosts: 674Location: England

Re: Collaborative Artistic Improvement Thread

I'm curious for an outlining tutorial. (Need to know what program used, what brush type, size, ect.) I don't outline much and it would be a great help for when I outline Manga and other works. Thanks <3

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