Re: D3 18-19 season

Originally Posted by shelfit

A haven't said a word about them getting into "the tournament" and I also believe that Plattsburgh would have beaten them by a larger margin because I believe Plattsburgh is better than Elmira. And I know Naz hasn't played William Smith, Utica, or Manhattanville yet either, but they are a first year program doing extremely well and I'm having a very hard time figuring out why nobody else here wants to give them any credit for where they stand right now. In their first year they have jumped right into the middle of the pack or higher instead of scraping along at the bottom of the tank like so many other new programs do. They quite easily beat Stevenson who used to be considered a pretty good young program too, although I think their best days are already sadly behind them. Naz has 76 GF and only 17 GA overall, 45 GF and 16 GA in their conference. Now look at and compare them to Stevenson, Neumann, Chatham (not first or second year programs), LVC, and Kings, not to mention once again the joke that is Wilkes. Why is Kings so brutal in their second year? LVC? Anyone have those answers? Easy, those programs aren't as committed to our sport or to doing it the right way. So that's all I'm saying. I simply think Naz deserves way more credit than they've gotten so far.

Kudos to Nazareth, AD Bothnerand, Coach Baudo and staff for putting together a quality program and committing resources to the growth of DIII women's hockey.

I was unaware of your need to be placated, however, as it is not often our thoughts coincide, may we not leave it that we agree on this point: Nazareth has done a nice job where others have failed?

Typical male. I made no mention of any NEED to be placated. I simply thought you were TRYING to placate me. You know, politely trying to shut me up, which is obviously a complete waste of time. Lol. It's true that you and I don't seem to agree very often, so it is nice to know that we do seem to genuinely agree on the great job Naz has done with its program compared to others that have failed with theirs. I think I've said it before and I'll say it again now, the truth is if I couldn't go D1 I would have gone D3 to a NESCAC school for the high quality education alone. There are definitely things I would choose to change/improve about the NESCAC (that I won't go into) but overall I believe they offer the best D3 education available.

Re: D3 18-19 season

Originally Posted by shelfit

Unfortunately the UCHC is a very weak conference so far but that's really no different than most other D3 conferences where the top few teams are miles ahead of the rest of their conference foes. That's where out of conference play really counts and that's where Plattsburgh, Elmira, Norwich, etc, have the stronger schedule than all the rest (imagine if those teams only played their own conference opponents all season....yuck!!!). All I've tried to point out is how well this new team has done so far as a first year program not only compared to other first year programs but other longtime mid to low end programs. It seems very clear that Naz is making a legitimate commitment to our sport and I wish like hell other schools would follow suit instead of being a total insult to our game like Wilkes is, like Daniel Webster was, etc. Naz has won my support as a fan and it's because they seem to be doing things the right way.

I understand your point and to go deeper... Women's Hockey (D1 & D3) in general is hurting because of addition of teams. Quality is way down and participation is up. I guess one of those things is good.

I understand your point and to go deeper... Women's Hockey (D1 & D3) in general is hurting because of addition of teams. Quality is way down and participation is up. I guess one of those things is good.

Re: D3 18-19 season

Now that the semesters have wound down there's some roster movement:

SO F Kyla Salvato off of the Salve Regina roster.
FR G Rose Quattro off Buffalo State (Buffalo State now with 1 goalie on their roster)
SO D Kayla Goleniak off Plattsburgh
SO G Gabrielle Igo off Utica
SO F Celina Clark off UW-Superior

SO F Kyla Salvato off of the Salve Regina roster.
FR G Rose Quattro off Buffalo State (Buffalo State now with 1 goalie on their roster)
SO D Kayla Goleniak off Plattsburgh
SO G Gabrielle Igo off Utica
SO F Celina Clark off UW-Superior

Anyone hear any transfer news?

They're all going to Wilkes for more icetime!

I have to mention how very well the men's hockey team at Wilkes is doing! Anyone else notice this?! The better the men's team does casts a bigger and bigger shadow on how poorly the women's team is being run.

Re: D3 18-19 season

Originally Posted by shelfit

They're all going to Wilkes for more icetime!

I have to mention how very well the men's hockey team at Wilkes is doing! Anyone else notice this?! The better the men's team does casts a bigger and bigger shadow on how poorly the women's team is being run.

Re: D3 18-19 season

Originally Posted by shelfit

They're all going to Wilkes for more icetime!

I have to mention how very well the men's hockey team at Wilkes is doing! Anyone else notice this?! The better the men's team does casts a bigger and bigger shadow on how poorly the women's team is being run.

It's sad, I had that same thought about how the skaters should go to Wilkes. I'm hoping maybe someone transfers there or maybe they find walk-on on campus or something, they need bodies. But Wilkes at least has a backup goalie which is more than Buff State can say. If the Bengals lose Gawronski to injury at any point I hope one of the skaters has put on the pads before. Are there rules in NCAA hockey about having a backup goalie dressed?

Originally Posted by obserbear

How about a Title IX class action law suit?

Title IX does require the genders be treated equally in regards to recruitment of student-athletes but I interpreted that language in terms of allocating the resources for recruiting to equitable levels. Is it a Title IX violation if they are in good faith trying to recruit an equal number of players but aren't successful? Wouldn't they need evidence the athletic department is somehow preventing the recruitment of a number of female athletes that is comparable to the rate of female enrollment?

Re: D3 18-19 season

Winter presents a current forecast of 8"-12" in Northfield Tuesday. Interesting trip home.

Almost had the top four teams in the country for the second year in a row. But we'll take four of the top five for second time in the last three years.

A lot on the line this weekend in Northfield for potential hosting rights and top seed for the NCAA tournament. The gap is pretty razor thin right now between these four and hopefully this weekend will shed some light on how it's all going to shape up towards the end.

Re: D3 18-19 season

Originally Posted by PrezdeJohnson09

Almost had the top four teams in the country for the second year in a row. But we'll take four of the top five for second time in the last three years.

A lot on the line this weekend in Northfield for potential hosting rights and top seed for the NCAA tournament. The gap is pretty razor thin right now between these four and hopefully this weekend will shed some light on how it's all going to shape up towards the end.

Thinking that if the polls had been updated, you could have the top 4 as River Falls lost to St. Thomas and the polls do not reflect that yet.

Re: D3 18-19 season

Originally Posted by PrezdeJohnson09

A lot on the line this weekend in Northfield for potential hosting rights and top seed for the NCAA tournament. The gap is pretty razor thin right now between these four and hopefully this weekend will shed some light on how it's all going to shape up towards the end.

I agree that this weekend could be the biggest weekend in terms of hosting and seeding. I think if the East/West Classic winner is Adrian, Plattsburgh or Norwich that winner becomes the favorite to host if they make the semis in March. However Elmira might need to do a little more even if they win considering the losses they've had to Plattsburgh and Williams and the tie with Middlebury. And that the Soaring Eagles don't have a ranked team on their schedule between now and the tourney doesn't help with that. Do you disagree and think a win here would still make Elmira a favorite for top seed?

I think St. Thomas will have a good case for top seed if they keep winning. They have 2 games each against GAC and Hamline and another tilt with UWRF in the second half so that's a tall order. Perhaps they can get away with dropping 1 or at most 2 of those 5...

If Adrian ends up hosting, I hope the championship committee takes a firm hand in deciding who gets to officiate. Between the 2017 championship weekend and some recent incidents like the Adrian/Salve Regina mess on the men's side a few weeks ago, it would be unfair to the participating teams to allow the semis and finals to become the Adrian Refs [S***]Show.

Re: D3 18-19 season

Big "if" here, but if Adrian wins two at the East/West, they appear to me a lock for #1 seed, as their remaining schedule looks like they run the table (Trine and 2 each against Finlandia, Lake Forest, Concordia WI, St. Norbert and Marian) and finish 24-1. Split with River Falls as the only blemish and, in this scenario, two wins over Plattsburgh, one against either Elmira/Norwich and the win against Midd; I would like their odds on hosting. Looks like it is 5pm in Kreitzberg on Sunday for all the marbles.