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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.

I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.

I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.

Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.

Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.

-SoulRiser

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so, if we all spam comment on a ton of his videos we might be able to convince him to make a video about SS

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also to be clear, I just mean we should comment on his videos and mention SS. the odds of us being seen increase with more comments

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something like: hey, so we got a support forum for people who dont like school over here. come check us out..

but probably better than that

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Latin America is a pretty tech savvy region and home of plenty of school haters. Argentina, Brazil, and Mexico's education systems are full of shite. I'm unaware of some kind of Spanish version of School Survival, though there are definitely grievances to be found in those countries.

I'm not going to generalize Muslim countries, but definitely a good number of them (Indonesia, Egypt, Algeria, Malaysia, etc) are pretty tech savvy and have shite education systems too. Actually, a lot of traffic SS gets is from Asia (especially India), so this is another thing to note.

TL;DR - Best way to get ourselves heard is to promote ourselves in other languages to other cultures.

I've never been good at looking for attention (I tend to actively avoid it), but... I retweeted your tweet.

It would be nice if he could mention us to his followers or something.

The general approach to attracting the attention of famous/popular people is to consistently comment on their stuff, so yeah, that is a good idea. As long as it isn't 'spammy' or annoying to him in any way.

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I see it more as a way to route a likely similar demographic towards an already awesome site lurking in the shadows

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I also forgot to say: if we're going to be taken seriously, we need to provide something with actual value.

I'm not too sure what xcriteria is doing this days though linking up to some kind of alternate education program would be very helpful. Another thing is actually functioning like a service in some small way, like a wiki.

A lot of the "guides", etc are vastly out of date so it's not like we're even providing something useful.

(03-22-2017 07:47 AM)Hansgrohe Wrote: I'm not going to generalize Muslim countries, but definitely a good number of them (Indonesia, Egypt, Algeria, Malaysia, etc) are pretty tech savvy and have shite education systems too.

As opposed to Iran of course, which has a shi'ite education system :^)

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(03-20-2013 05:08 PM)brainiac3397 Wrote: Stand up with pride and say "No! I will not be a McDonalds employee. I WILL BE A GARBAGE MAN!"

if I wasnt busy with 4 kids, a wife, and a full-time job I could do something...
i can barely write.

also I havent posted an essay in awhile

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We're informing people that there's nothing wrong with them for hating school, and providing a community. How is that not useful? That's honestly been the entire point of the site all along since I figured out that there were other people besides me who hate school and would probably benefit from knowing that they're not alone.

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Yeah. I've thought about migrating most of the content to Wordpress or the Wiki... but it'll be a pain in the ass to do, and redirect all the old links, etc. Would be pretty handy for making it easier for others to edit stuff though.

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Support School Survival on Patreon or Donate Bitcoin Here: 1Q5WCcxWjayniaL92b8GfXBiGdfjmnUNa2"Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it." - André Paul Guillaume Gide"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination." - Albert Einstein"I'm pretty sure there's a lot of beauty that can only be found in the mind of a lunatic." - TheCancerEIPD - Emotionally Incompetent Parent Disorder

I would like to get boyinaband's attention too. One thing I'd suggest is if several people from here become patreon sponsors we could get on his monthly livestreams and jumpstart conversation about education issues. I have been on these but I think I'm the only one wanting to talk about education and I feel out of place with it just being me.

I also think updating the site seriously would be a good step before it being in a boyinaband video. And/or we could ask him to link to the Alliance for Self-directed Education and people could find SS through that.

I've also been considering making a third site that's more streamlined and can link to both SS and the Alliance site.

creating a new site is probably our best option at this point. we've been talking about updating the content on this site for years and nothing has changed, except a few cosmetic things and a new skin.