The people, well actually all of the people except blacks and the far left have discovered the O'bama is in way over his head and this jobs plan, delivered 4 months after he promised it in April. This Jobs bill is a rehash for the same shit that failed in 09. People know if and so they recognize that the ship of state is going to have nobody at the helm for 16 months.

I am surprised that his ratings are not lower, but the media continue to shield him. Partly because of bias, partly because they report on nearly everything as politics rather than digging into the messy difficult substance.

Is there one policy that Obama has tried that has worked? The answer, unfortunately, is no.

The fact that Obama's approval is tanking, taken together with the vote of NY9, can be inferred to mean that the populace is, at long last, tumbling to some fundamental truths about Obama and the left. Better late than never, and in time for the 2012 elections, while it seems that Obama's opportunity to do damage will be limited until then.

To our detriment, however, these truths have to be relearned every generation or so as there seems to be a predilection for utopianism.

Obama gives me the creeps. He's so ... calculating. Everything the guy does is cold, calculating, self-aggrandizement and promotion. It's like he doesn't live among us, he just observes us. Creeeee-peee.

"The GOP should propose its own payroll tax holiday for a six month period"

Will it include matching spending cuts to offset the impact on the budget for this year, since TPers would never add to the debt? What will be cut to add up to $115 billion in FY 2011? How likely is this considering they never got close to this sort of cutting (especially when the fine print was examined, e.g. looking at real numbers rather than a growing baseline) w/ other so-called spending cut plans /rhetorical_question?

Among the brilliant ideas in his plan is this nugget of brilliance: allow people who apply for an interview and are unemployed the right to sue if they are not hired. Absolutely brilliant! Now what employer is going to even look at an application of someone who is presently unemployed? The stupidity never stops. And the republicans are supposed to be the stupid party. The democrats have taken stupidity beyond the imaginable. They are now truly the brain dead party.

Well technically, Obama's "jobs plan can't be called that.Since No Dem introduced Obama's bill in the House, a Republican introduced the "American Jobs Act" (Rep. Louie Gohmert’s (R-TX) but his legislation offers a tax cut not the $450 Billion dollar Stimulus Part II that Obama has been talking about as the Americans Jobs Act, LOL!! Got it from WZ at http://weaselzippers.us/2011/09/14/too-funny-gop-rep-louie-gohmert-nabs-name-american-jobs-act-after-no-dem-files-bill-on-obamas-behalf/.

What surprises me is that there are no adults in Obama's inner circle giving their boss the hard truth: record levels of government spending, increased regulation, threats of higher taxes and vilification of success have combined to scare would-be employers the past two years and have made our economy WORSE. His policies are simply not working. And now he wants to double down on them? No thanks.

Oh and btw, when Obama gave his big speech today in N.C., he did it at WestStar Manufacturing Company to promote jobs growth. Unfortunately for Obama, his staff did no research,as WestStar Manufacturing actually has a great deal of its manufacturing done in..............Costa Rica! Way to go Mr. President, praise a company that ships American Jobs to another country to promote American Jobs.

I am married as well. The husband is in Mexico right now. A 50 hour flight, could you imagine? He returns to Bangalore tomorrow and has a 19 hour layover in Amsterdam. He gets home on Sunday.

Tonight is a big night for me though. Meeting friends at Stella in The South End and then on to 647 Tremont. Judging will take place on all sides and it is important to stay as well preserved as possible.

Many physical demands can take place in one year. Has a friend gained too much weight, worked out like hell and is now the buffest? Any cosmetic procedures? Clothes? What are the new styles? I don't know. My friend who is a sales girl at Niemies will be there and she won't mince words. Another friend of mine manages Barney's and she doesn't take any prisoners. I am afraid she may let my clothes have it.

There may be a serious sit down conversation regarding weight, muscles, clothes, shoes, hair etc.

When do you think it helps democrapic politicians to find out they have a problem in the White House?

I don't think Obama is in as bad a shape as Jimmy Carter. But it is very possible (given that he's a narcissist) ... which makes him familiar with a loss of stature ...

That he needs to do something ... to repair "something" ... about the way he has handled the Mideast.

If he had to buy a clue? What does he do to repair himself?

Perhaps? When Bibi Netanyahu called him ... (And, there were about 100 Jews in Egypt) ... they needed Obama's help in extracting 6 security officers ... who were in a safe VAULT. But there were about 450 Egyptians looking for blood.

They couldn't bang their way into the vault! And, Obama made the necessary phone calls to the Egyptian military ... And, perhaps? Perhaps, he read them the riot act?

When the Eygptian commandos got to the vault. And, cleared out many of the Eygptians who were still there ... They discovered they couldn't open the vault's door. And, nobody, it seemed knew the combination.

Where was the combination? In the pocket of the Israeli Ambassador. Who just landed back in Israel.

I have no idea how long it took to get the combination to the Egyptians. Luckily, unlike a bank's vault, this door wasn't also on a timer. Where you can't open anything, until you get permission from "the clock."

Anyway. All is well.

And, the news fell silent.

I always know things are going well for the Israelis when silence takes hold.

But Obama? What's he gonna do if he tries to support the palestinians in their quest for statehood? He hasn't shed enough voters, already?

REMEMBER THIS: What counts for points in November 2012 ... for Obama, alone. Is the Electoral College count.

What if right now Obama can kiss Florida goodbye? Wisconsin is a toss-up state.

While 90% of the American population that is employed, is willing to keep their jobs.

Probably, an additional headache is that people can't sell their homes at a profit. Though you can probably get a great discount rate on a moving van.

Obama is not flying by the seat of his pants. He likes flying in Air Force One, however.

And, the republicans haven't come up with a "ticket winnah" either.

You know, I don't think the Americans are handing the Israelis a "bill" for services rendered in Cairo.

Why is that? Because Obama figured out Cairo could have been his "Tehran."

No matter how bad his plans, no matter how high unemployment gets, despite the crony capitalism, multiple expensive vacations, and The unpayable trillions in debt, he can still on a good 45% of the US willing to pull the lever for him.

Worse, there are now and will still be "undecideds" ready to re-elect this guy.

I hope to God I'm wrong, but the US doubled down on FDR during the middle of his wholly unnecessary creation, The Great Depression.

I do not understand people. Obama should be staring at a 10% approval given the total clusterfuck the economy has become. But no, he's more popular than Bush.

No, because he keeps trying the same damn thing, Keynesian economics. The Fed rates are down to almost zero and he is spending us into oblivion. More spending is not anything new, or different.

The #1 thing he can do for jobs is start repealing statutes. Repeal Obamacare. That would be huge. Repeal Sarb-Ox. Repeal Dodd-Frank. Repeal EPA regs. Sigh Free Trade agreements. Destroy the public unions. Shrink the damn government.

Croix is onto something important. There's nothing particularly wrong with Keynesian economics. It has its merits as a macroeconomic theory about how the world works and what governments should do.

What's far superior, though, is basic microeconomics. Stores aren't hiring. People aren't buying stuff. And the reason for that is that there is too much bad law gumming up the works. All the Keynesian stimulus in the world won't work if the systems in place aren't any good. And they aren't.

Mr. Seven Machos, I've always thought that the Keynesian diagnosis of a recession being caused by a lack of aggregate demand would be similar to a doctor's diagnosis that a patient was ill due to "lack of aggregate health".

It's not Obama these people approve of, not really, it's Bill Clinton, or some governor, or "the gays", or some celebrity.

Absolutely. I am reminded of my friend who won't vote for Republicans because she is scared about abortion. Or one of the Althouse Cohens, who is so stuck on evolution -- of all the things in the world -- that he doesn't think he can vote Republican.

Irrational fears are hard to let go of. You can't reason people out of them.

The good news is that those people are either torn or disillusioned, and their solution will be to stay at home on election day.

I've sat through my share of Keynesian theory courses. It all makes very good sense on paper. The algebra can be fun. And the federal government needs some macroeconomic theory because the federal government operates at a macroeconomic level. The Fed, particularly, needs a macroeconomic theory.

"The hardest thing to do in this world is to get someone to change their mind."

I never voted for a REPUB for president until I was 48 years old in 2000. Unions and voting for DEMS was in my blood. Clinton helped me see that slime was bipartisan and that made me see the light. But it took a long time so I did not vote for 8 years until 2000.

Seven Machos said...According to her neighbor, her days of going after basketball playing black guys ended a little less than a year before she married Todd.

What the fuck is the point of this? Let's assume it's all true. What problem do you have, exactly, with a white woman who wants to fuck athletic black guys?

================Look, if Sarah in her youth loved black cock and had a serious case of jungle fever...she could have ended up like Kim Dunham - Mother to an affirmative action basketball playing President.

Is there a societal problem with black men infatuated with white and hispanic and Asian pussy that consider dating black women, let alone marrying them a step down in status?Yep. Look at the black illegitimacy rate we all pay for.Is there a problem with white or other race sluts chasing black cock? Perhaps, the marriage success rate of blondes who hooked up with exciting black athletes is pretty dismal - leading in a majority of cases to single Mom blondes once the philandering promiscuous and oversexed black athlete moves on to greener pastures. Other than the few truly rich black athletes, the taxpayer ends up paying for the slut and the offspring. Not every black athlete is a Tiger Woods. Most don't make money, the few that do have problems hanging on to it vs. living the high life.

Shawn Kemp in his basketball career proudly noted he sired 14 children by 10 women. 6 white, 4 black. And had 100s of others as word of his sexual prowness spread. Was bankrupt two years after he retired. The "pussy" on the side and their spawn are covered by taxpayers. Kemp stayed with his "real family" of his HS sweetheart and 4 kids a year longer. Then they were also split and on the dole.

I was demonstrating that the pro argument re Palin entering the D primary was absurd. Of course, blatantly calling the absurdity out would be lame. So, I countered the absurd pro argument w/ an absurd con argument: that Palin's marriage to Todd was the equivalent of her deciding to not primary BHO based on sport and race preferences.

Ah! This Palin nonsense seems to be the result of Joe McGinniss’s yet-to-be-published book on Palin! Apparently McGinniss says she had a hook-up with some black NBA player more than two decades ago.This is big news on the left because it kind of, sort of, whether it is true or not, can be made into a strawman argument about teh hypocrisy of Palin's supporters or something that might be a strawman that people on the left can be made to believe reflects on the hypocrisy (or whatever) of Palin supporters. This as as pathetic as the story about no Dem rep's bothering to even introduce Obama's "American Jobs Act".

I was demonstrating that the pro argument re Palin entering the D primary was absurd. Of course, blatantly calling the absurdity out would be lame. So, I countered the absurd pro argument w/ an absurd con argument: that Palin's marriage to Todd was the equivalent of her deciding to not primary BHO based on sport and race preferences.

You failed utterly and miserably and totally. Your comment was pointlessly racist. The pointless part -- I keep harping on it -- comes from your gross failure to provide any context. That's on you.

That lesson now given, it's sad and ridiculous that you think that any person's choice to have sex with someone of a different skin color is ever relevant to virtually any serious conversation.

What surprises me is that there are no adults in Obama's inner circle giving their boss the hard truth: record levels of government spending, increased regulation, threats of higher taxes and vilification of success have combined to scare would-be employers the past two years and have made our economy WORSE.

They can't tell him that. They can't even contemplate the possibility it's true, since it would mean a repudiation of everything they've ever stood for. Nope, like Krugman they'd rather double down on failure than admit they were wrong from the start.

"This is big news on the left because it kind of, sort of, whether it is true or not, can be made into a strawman argument about teh hypocrisy of Palin's supporters"

McGinnis wrote it and the media cover it because they believe a significant portion of conservatives are racist and this will hurt Palin.

PB&J wrote it to elicit negative comments about Palin which in turn would validate his sense of self, namely that he's an anti-racist. Then he could further trumpet these findings about the internet to "prove" his theory.

It must hurt to be proven so utterly wrong PBJ. Will you ignore this complete failure and persist in your stupidity?

DADvocate said... Trouble is, if he was competent he could pull it off by actually helping the country and us citizens. But, he'd rather play the role of Uber Snake Oil salesman, sell us a bag of shit.

Agreed. Ideological extremism or self interest aside, a president can survive if he seems "competent".

I think Obama is vulnerable on the competency issue, on several fronts, and I think that's why Democrats are worried.

No. PBJ, I expect you to see that saying what you said is racist and has place here. There was no context for it. I cannot imagine the context for it. It was a stupid thing to say. You should apologize.

Warning: Committee to Reelect the President(CREEP) has launched a new site. AttackWatch.com People are to use it to report any criticism or ridicule of the President. You can even report forwarded emails.

CREEP is encouraging people to become stool pigeons, snitches, and rats.

CREEP cops will be coming out of the woodwork. These are the new cops Obama wants to hire with his jobs bill.

So clean up your act on ALthouse or you will be dragged to the Gulag or worse. They will use the Chicago Way. You will be trunk music.

Pogo: I do not understand people. Obama should be staring at a 10% approval given the total clusterfuck the economy has become. But no, he's more popular than Bush.

You aren't factoring in the "Reverse David Duke" effect. I bet a very significant percentage of former Obama supporters can't make themselves say anything bad about Our First Black President, but are hoping fervently that he pulls a "If nominated I will not accept; if elected I will not serve."

Hell, Sherman only savaged the economies of the Confederate States. Obama's upped the standard considerably.

When you look at the list of "possible choices" for November 2012, Obama could really still "pull it off."

But, first, he has to mend what he purposely broke!

He can't get there by now playing with Tony Blair, who shoves the Israelis. So that the palestinians get a state in the pre-1967 war borders.

What Obama didn't know, though, was that there was a cost to his Mideast "luv" of Islam.

Europe is also about to go up in a pile of smoke against the EURO. With borders springing up in Europe like nobody's business. What used to cross borders ... and sue in the Belgium courts ... could also turn meaningless.

Israel just needs to stay quiet.

But, ya know what? I don't see the finger pointing at Israel, that Israel got back in 1981 ... when it blew out the Osarik reactor in Irak. (Then? Reagan complained.) Now? It's really all rather silent.

While in Libya, Kaddafi is hiding out in the Sahara. Which is a dessert as large as the United States. They haven't caught him. Qatar hasn't been given the "win." And, the saud's are still stinkers. Who buy our politicians "wholesale."

Let's see what their puppet, Tony Blair, does.

And, it's wonderful to see Obama now stuck with this problem! He can't do what he wants!

Seems it's almost perfect.

Sure. It would be better if a real businessman came on the scene. And, ran for the White House; without the connections you get from all of the politicians.

But what can ya do? We've had stinky choices, before. And, for the Year 2000 ... most Americans are grateful that Algore LOST!

This is unbelievable. I click on the comments for two Althouse posts and both have been hijacked.

Sheesh.

Speaking for myself, I think that Obama's approval rating may be related to the fact that there is still considerable money left unspent from the original stimulus bill (you know, the one that stimulated greater unemployment) because the "shovel-ready" infrastructure projects turned out not to be quite so ready for a shovel. Now Obama proposes more of the same. Riiiight.

Speaking of overwrought Democrats, does anyone know where it was that Al Gore broadcast his 24 hour marathon global warming rant from? I'm thinking he's in Aspen, Colo., since I read on Drudge that Aspen has snow.

Good for skiing (if only I skied!) but not so good to have snow this early in the year if you're trying to argue phlogiston. I mean AGW.

To seriously answer a question above, in a way that allows me to continue to hammer PBJ's racist stupidity, I have been predicting in these pages for three years now something I long ago termed blacklash (TM). I predicted that the left would make race a huge issue in 2012 -- that the left would say that Obama's impending loss (very possibly a landslide loss) was at root an indictment of the racism of the American people.

We have seem this very theme I predicted bandied about in the leftist press for sometime now, and I predict that Obama will run on race, somewhat overtly -- there will be a speech invoking Martin Luther King --- but mostly in the undernews.

This lame, sorry story attempt by PBJ to inject racism by PBJ is one example of the very meme I predicted as early as December 2008.

Note to Perry and Romney advisers: I am available to run campaigns in Illinois.

You know, it's actually funny that Sarah Palin is being accused of having had sex with Black basketball athletes, before she married her husband Todd Palin.

Given that she lives in Alaska, it's much more likely that she'd meet a bear. Or a caribou. Before she'd see a Black basketball player. But that's just me.

How come she's not being accuse of having had sex with a skiing instructor? Wouldn't it be easier to find skiing instructors in Alaska? Basketball players? Where are the courts? If they are outdoors ... do the players wear snow shoes instead of sneakers? I bet a game would be so much fun to watch! But you'd need to wear gloves. And, have a hat that had ear muffs.

Maybe, she had sex with Putin? He still tries to look so hot!

McGinniss could write she saw Putin from her front porch. If Joe's book takes off ... I hope people are prepared to do the spoofs. And, not just leave it to Tina Fey at SNL.

Hey! The Black players are easy to spot! They're 8 feet tall! They'd certainly be noticed in Alaska. Lucky their legs are long enough ... so they can run fast! Even in snow shoes!

BY THE WAY: DICK CHENEY'S BOOK, "IN MY TIME" IS DELIGHTFUL! A really recommend this one!

maybe President HopeNChange shouldn't announce a blatantly cynical strategy of producing a "jobs plan" (LOL) full of stale and failed big government ideas and tax increases knowing the GOP won't go for it, just so you can use it to run against them. People see right through that shit and it doesn't play.

agree with EDH above--comptency is the issue along with a proven track record--if the results of the NY special election are any indication, Mr Obama has lost some of the "jewish" vote. And he appears to be losing support from other minority voters

as to a democratic challenger" they dont have the balls (or ovaries)

It will be Mr Obama against whomever the GOP puts up

It will be a an interesting campaignm with the dems playing the race card as their only response.

agree with EDH above--comptency is the issue along with a proven track record--if the results of the NY special election are any indication, Mr Obama has lost some of the "jewish" vote. And he appears to be losing support from other minority voters

as to a democratic challenger" they dont have the balls (or ovaries)

It will be Mr Obama against whomever the GOP puts up

It will be a an interesting campaignm with the dems playing the race card as their only response.

I was demonstrating that the pro argument re Palin entering the D primary was absurd. Of course, blatantly calling the absurdity out would be lame. So, I countered the absurd pro argument w/ an absurd con argument: that Palin's marriage to Todd was the equivalent of her deciding to not primary BHO based on sport and race preferences.

Analogy fail. Big time.

I have no problem with fighting absurdity with absurdity.

However, I feel the original absurd statement (re: Palin/D primary) was in fact, facetious.

And you chose to follow that up with a Garage-esque 'fact' dump that has an extremely tenuous relationship to anything else in the thread.

If you are Obama's re-election campaign manager, what do you run on in 2012?

He can't very well run on his record, can he? Were I his campaign manager I'd have him propose some legislation I knew wouldn't pass and then run against an intransigent Republican Congress, telling everyone happy days would have been here again if only they'd passed the bill.

According to her neighbor, her days of going after basketball playing black guys ended a little less than a year before she married Todd.

What is this, high school?

I wonder if it's as true as all those quotes people on the left variously attributed to Cheney, Bush, and Rumsfeld. If we follow this one to its source, will we find it, too, was made up out of whole cloth by a left-wing blogger looking for attention?

According to her neighbor, her days of going after basketball playing black guys ended a little less than a year before she married Todd.

PB&J is citing gawker, who in turn is citing the National Enquirer, who in turn is citing Joe McGinniss, who is so desperate to recoup the year of his life he spent in Alaska that he is selling excerpts to the National Enquirer.

Specifically the allegation is that Palin slept with Glen Rice 24 years ago, when she was 23 and right out of college (pre-Todd).

So basically the allegation is that she wasn't a virgin at 23. And that she's not a racist.

Eric said...According to her neighbor, her days of going after basketball playing black guys ended a little less than a year before she married Todd.

What is this, high school?

==================Nah, supposedly that one tryst with Rice was while she was 23 and he was a 20 year old sophomore. Its all salacious and not confirmed by anyone save retired black superstar Glen Rice - nor is anything denied yet by Palin. One WOULD presume McCain did a little vetting....but then again, with McCains judgement and the fact he wanted pro-abortion Good Ol' Joe as his VP...McCain's judgment isn't exactly stellar.

One neighbor said Rice wasn't the only one. As a sports reporter, Palin supposedly had a thing for interviewing a number of black baketball athletes coming to Anchorage for tournaments and signalling her easy availability to players that caught her fancy. .

More troubling are the drug use and cheating on the 1st Dude allegations.

Naturally, the liberals are hoping the stories are true and the Sarah Cult hopes they aren't true or somehow can be squared with the religious right as 20-25 year old scandals that shouldn't be important now.

I think you prefer to have everything spelled out. Me?...not so much. I like it when I need to take a second to put the pieces together.

Maybe we could be very explicit and go a few rounds re the constitution and the Supreme Court's legitimacy re judicial review?* ** ***

*Additional info for those who prefer specificity (i.e. Seven): This vague reference is related to an extensive back and forth you and I once had. I don't recall what my "handle" was at that time. Even if I could specify the handle, you may not recall the exchange.

**Additional, additional info for those who prefer specificity (i.e. Seven): I don't really mean that I want to jabber about the Supreme Court.

***Additional, additional, additional info for those who prefer specificity (i.e. Seven): So, you may be wondering why I would bother bring up this old conversation since I don't really want to chit chat about that topic. I did it so that I could get to this third additional bit of info. This is my way of highlighting your preference for having everything laid out w/ every detail explicitly stated. Me?....I would have been happier w/o all of this additional blather...if the tables were turned.

Of course, it would be funny to see Kagan and Sotomayor as "bumps on a log."

But a new president ... making the "wrong" picks ... could find out his election lets him pull what Obama pulled?

Didn't Obama's balloon burst when early on, he said "the cambridge cop acted stupidly?"

You really think Obama is friendly with Harvahd's Professor gates?

One phony pony show after another.

By the way the only number that counts is the electoral collage vote. Obama doesn't own this one, yet. And, if he pisses off Jews ... he's giving himself "neck to neck" races in New York State. And, Florida.

This is what's producing the real sweat stink.

And, you might also notice the press is steering clear of Pelosi! Heck, Newt Gingrich gets more coverage than she does.

I am not the least bit surprised that Obama's approval ratings have plummeted on his latest jobs plan. It is recycled junk, failed policies, and appeals to envy.

Who really believes that bailing out government employee pensions last time around really saved or created any jobs? (They can maybe claim such, but only by ignoring all the jobs lost due to the deficit spending).

Millionaires and billionaires are now apparently defined to be a couple making over $200k. Huh? And, GE still is getting sweat heart deals, and not paying taxes.

Those infrastructure projects are still not shovel ready, and so wouldn't hit until we should be coming out of the recession (hopefully), thanks to federal regulations and laws. You should be asking why he doesn't just waive those rules - esp. some of the procurement, environmental, and financial rules for the duration, as well as enforcement of Davis-Bacon.

He can't, of course, do that. His base constituents would freak out if he did. So, instead, his Administration is writing rules as fast as they can, none of which will help us get out of the recession, and most of which just make it worse.

The American people are slowly becoming aware of all this, and so, no surprise, his approval ratings continue to plummet. They are coming to understand that any Republican would probably do better - and likely could not do worse.

I don't see Hillary! as being all that able to just step in, if Obama falters. The problem is that the world has gone to hell in a handbasket under her watch at the State Department. Esp. the Moslem world.

The real tipping point may be if she cannot head off the Palestinian vote in the UN. She always got along with the Jews, at least in the past, and probably as well as did Obama. But Israel's security has plummeted under her watch, almost with the connivance of the Obama Administration.

NY9 Tuesday may be an signal that it is ok for Jews to vote Republican, if the choice is the safety of Israel. Not so much for the ethnic/non-practicing Jews, but for those who are more devout and esp. those with ties to Israel.

Encouragement. And plenty of it. From the likes of the moron Biden and all the other demonstrably mentally ill troggs like Waters, Lewis, Dingell, et al.

The democrat party has steadily morphed into the largest parasite in the history of the world, the host being the fortune of the American citizen en todo. They aren't smart enough to keep the host alive, however, as evidenced by the deranged spending 'ideas' put forth in the last 2-3 years. The host is dying, and like all mentally ill mothers using their child for attention, the Munchausen-by-proxy dems are in serious trouble.

No,you are a moron, Treadboy. It's at best a moderate plan,dimwit--extension of payroll taxes, and unemp benefits. Not FDR, except to paranoid teabugs. Though I doubt you can even read it and understand it,trash.

Saint Croix--I know your vacation comment wasnt addressed to me, but I got back from 10 days in Hungary--GREAT place. inexpensive and a wonderful experience even if I couldnt make heads or tails of magyar. I recomment to anyone who wants a wonderful experience--just dont spend too much time in budapest--we went to sopran, pecs and eger--great wines great people

Not going to happen. She isn't that politically bright but Bill is. Bill knows that the next president is going to have the mother of all shit sandwiches to deal with thanks to the jumped up affirmative action hire who is way past his Peter Principle. He will advise Hillary even if you win you lose. Let the republicans have it and you can always go back to the senate.

Original Mike said...cubanbob said: "Among the brilliant ideas in his plan is this nugget of brilliance: allow people who apply for an interview and are unemployed the right to sue if they are not hired."

You've got to be kidding?

9/15/11 9:17 AM

I wish to hell I was. But its true. That nugget is in there. And not withstanding J's comment about it having tax cuts, a one time one year tax cut, he conveniently overlooks that in 2013 those cuts are rescinded and hefty tax hikes on employers are imposed. They are so sure of their brilliance that they assume the rubes can't read and that no one would notice. So let them demagogue the non passage of the bill as to why the economy is stalled. All the republicans have to do is show the excerpts of the stupidity of the democrats and ask "who are you going to believe? the democrats or your lying eyes?"

Saint Croix said...the next president is going to have the mother of all shit sandwiches to deal with

Yeah, but there's nowhere to go but up.

Obama is Hoover. The next President gets to be FDR.

9/15/11 9:39 AM

Please God, no! One FDR was enough. When you get past the mythology it was Roosevelt's policies that prolonged the depression. The depression didn't end until 1943 when there was a labor shortage brought on by drafting 14 million men. It was FDR's policies that made the depression far deeper than necessary and many more years longer than necessary and that in turn inadvertently lead to the rise of Nazism and Japanese Imperialism. And its his progressive policies that finally have bankrupted the country. No we don't need another FDR.

He is spending more money ("jobs!") and raising taxes on the rich to pay for it.

Wow. radical. as you and most the teabugs forget, tax rates are still low. The complaints are that he's not doing enough--and anyway, it's not a tax raise per se--he proposes to end some deductions on the wealthy. And to end some subsidies to oil--one reason the GOP Senate hates it,since they are whores for big oil.And Turtle McConnell doesn't care for it. NO no no . What is the GOP orTurtle's jobs' plan? Maybe like caddy-apprenticeships , or croupier-tech, ..yacht-wash detail. And cut taxes on the Kochs.

Lets put it this way--they better do something before the real left uprises,and out of nowhere the sudden you got a Hugo Chavez marching in LA streets

Lets put it this way--they better do something before the real left uprises,and out of nowhere the sudden you got a Hugo Chavez marching in LA streetsWhy don't you go to Cuba, J, and study how the socialists there have managed to produce a dynamic, powerhouse economy.No oil companies, no corporations that aren't owned by the state. It must be a regular workers paradise.

@cubanbob: That nugget you found is brain-dead-stupid. I have long held that liberals do not understand incentives. However, it's probably more along the lines of "refuse to acknowledge", rather than "do not understand".