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Too late, I think. I read up about the Southern Ocean, It doesn't sound the best place for a land lubber like me! I think the Aussies have done the right thing in calling it off, no use risking peoples lives now. I pity the poor sods stuck on the search vessels down in it. Mind you, if they can't take a joke they shouldn't have joined!

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Here we have a missing, presumed crashed aircraft with 239 people aboard.

All the media can think about is defaming the Captain and assassinating the character of the co-pilot. I really wish the media could be held accountable for the utter crap they spout if evidence comes to light that they were wrong.

To be brutally honest however, a hijack, either by one of the crew or a passenger seems to be the only thing that can account for the loss of communications, the transponder not transmitting (most likely set to Stand by) and the course changes.

Still, I see no sense in impugning the reputation of anyone on board until more is know, if ever it is.

On another note. This is the most active thread I have seen here in years.
Kind of reminds me of the "good" old days, where discussion and threads going 5 to 10 pages deep were the norm!

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Chicago (ABC) -- The father of a passenger on the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 has begun a multi-million dollar litigation process against the airline and plane manufacturer in the United States, an aviation law firm said today.

A petition for discovery filed today in Circuit Court of Cook County, Ill., names Malaysia Airlines and Boeing, the manufacturer of the missing 777 airplane, as the initial defendants, Monica Kelly, head of Global Aviation Litigation at Ribbeck Law, told ABC News. The law firm is based in Chicago.

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It's not only the media guilty of fruitless and aggressive speculation!!

And your #309 comes as no surprise whatsoever. And although the relatives have not been treated well, what good is screaming protest going to do. No one knows much and everyone is trying to determine where, why and how. Until they have there is little to be achieved.

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I haven't read back through this thread, but am now aware that all the nut-jobs are coming out of the woodwork with the most fabulous conspiracies involving flying the aircraft to Diego Garcia, turning it into a nuclear bomb and flying it to America - and anyway we should have known this as we were warned in the TV programme 'Lost' and also key employees of a semiconducter company were on board so now the company can be solely owned by Zionists, Bilderburg, ARM or The Smurfs or some-such.

If it wasn't so tragic it would be funny.

Moggy

"What you must remember" Flip said "is that nine-tenths of Cattermole's charm lies beneath the surface." Many agreed.

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Such a tragic situation.
To be brutally honest however, a hijack, either by one of the crew or a passenger seems to be the only thing that can account for the loss of communications, the transponder not transmitting (most likely set to Stand by) and the course changes.

I was thinking along similar lines. The fact that it headed south made me think that it could have been due to someone seeking political asylum in Australia, but obviously things went catastrophically wrong somewhere along the way.

It's difficult to imagine any other scenario, what could have incapacitated both pilots and yet kept the aircraft flying for so long? Could the pilots have programmed the 2-3 changes in course directions before being incapacitated? If so, why didn't they get a chance to get off some form of signal at least? If they were incapacitated, I shudder to think what was going on in the aircraft for all those hours without anyone at the helm. Would the rest of the crew known what to do? Could the flight attendants have managed to send some signal or programme a different course? Just endless questions and a heart breaking tragedy in our modern age. I guess we should never take things for granted, every time I think about all the long distance flights, the many millions of passengers in the air every year, it's still a miracle something like this doesn't happen more frequently.

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A letter in today's paper raised a question I have asking myself for the last few days, but for which there may be a perfectly reasonable answer. Why cannot the flight recorder information be continuously transmitted to ground stations during the flight? There would then be a real time record of the flight obviating the necessity for physical retrieval after an accident.

Charlie

Keep smiling - it's never as bad as you think!!

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I've asked the very same questions way back in this thread. It seems inconceivable with all the tech at our disposal why this can't be done. It would immensely ease the finding of any downed aircraft, and give an immediate indication of what occurred in the cockpit. The fact that current FDRs only have enough memory to store 2 hours worth of data appears to be quite limited in this scenario. Compressing the data and sending via satellite should be achievable, considering the other data streams that already appear to be in place.

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Some of these tech questions have been briefly addressed by some seemingly knowledgeable people over at PPRuNe. Issues such as general lag in aviation, testing requirements, airline industry opposition (due to increased costs etc.), increased complexity, introduction of possible threats (i.e. batteries) and so on have been raised.

If e.g. ICAO decides to pursue this further, perhaps a broad approach including relevant experts and stakeholders who can examine and discuss different aspects of this could be something.

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I don't subscribe to that forum, so do the objections appear to be objections because the various parties involved are reluctant to change to something arguably better or do they seem to be justified practical problems in enabling the information to be transmitted. For example I wonder what the increased costs would be for. Batteries - the power source would be exactly what it is now, wouldn't it? I am sure that before implementation there will be countless meetings and conventions to agree it all so no doubt very many years away even if it was under consideration.