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Kanonji의 댓글

Hands off hunters! Its called Blackrock Caverns Boss Trash Loot Druid Feral Staff for a reason!

(Or it was, until the name is changed....)

Kanonji의 댓글

Then again, calling it now, it will soon be Berto's Staff. *renames his druid Berto*

xiani의 댓글

I just bought this for my hunter, was dirt cheap on AH.

I certainly wouldn't roll for it over a druid though, and partly because it's so horribly ugly that you really want cat/bear form to hide it!

xiani의 댓글

A warrior will NEVER make as much use out of that gun/bow as a hunter would

Absolutely true. This is assuming a DPS warrior ( obvious tank-specific guns are a non-issue) they only get the bonus stats since they'll never fire the thing.

However, that 4658 feral attack power? Hunters won't be making any use of that, so the same does apply with druids.

You could argue that the bonus stats from whatever goes in your ranged slots are trivial compared to the large amount you get from a 2H weapon, and you'd be right there too, but it's a question of degree, not of type.

Still, you are perfectly entitled to run random dungeons with strangers and roll need on anything that is an upgrade for you, no matter how slight. Many of us just don't, due mostly to an optimistic belief in karma...

xiani의 댓글

I didn't not know they'd got rid of feral attack power.

However, from that link:

The damage of the weapon now affects Cat and Bear attacks like other melee classes.

Sounds like FAP (stop snig gering*) was just a fudge to get druids who never used to 'use' the weapon up to similar levels as other classes that would benefit from base DPS. Looks like that's been streamlined a bit, and good job too.

So, to be strictly accurate, as a hunter, the higher base DPS on a melee weapon is what's of no use to you, and provides extra advantage to a druid. Exactly how the base dps of a ranged weapon would be useless to when you never fire it.

*the inappropriate word filter on this is...rather over enthusiastic

Bloodcraft의 댓글

This sells cheap on the Auction House on most servers (25-30g), it's a great boost at 78 for those levelling alts through Northrend, and really helps grind those last 2 levels before the Cata content.

Scotia의 댓글

So, to be strictly accurate, as a hunter, the higher base DPS on a melee weapon is what's of no use to you, and provides extra advantage to a druid. Exactly how the base dps of a ranged weapon would be useless to when you never fire it.

Yes... but... we're... not talking about base DPS on a weapon. We never have been. We're talking about the stats on the weapon. If this didn't have AGI + STA, I wouldn't be interested. If it had spellpower, I'd pass. But, it doesn't. If we'd been talking about base DPS at the beginning in relation to a statless item, it'd be a no brainer. But, we're not.

And if anyone still insists that Hunters should pass to Druids for this item.... instead of fairly rolling against them for it...

Look, I hate huntards as much as the rest of you. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Some of us actually know our class and some of us have actually been playing it since 2004. Part of me thinks I shouldn't be proud of that fact (LOL) but it's but one of my chosen hobbies, so meh. ;P

Just because druids melee and hunters don't (pets don't get any benefit from the dps on a melee weapon) doesn't mean that a druid should always get priority over a hunter for a staff like this. Unlike a hunter without a good bow, a druid can shapeshift and gets an inherent bonus to their dps just from that. Take a bow out of a hunter's hands and they're useless... unlike a shapeshifted druid with an item that may have a bit lower dps.

Bottom line, it's good for both classes, and both have a right to roll for it. That's all I'm trying to say.

HyacinTB의 댓글

Is this animated or is my video card having a seizure?

thesandman87의 댓글

The hunters shouldnt have the staff is the same logic that rouges use to say they get priority on 1h weapons. So what hunters cant have anything these days? Got a druid and a rouge nope no weapons for me, screw that non sense, if its an upgrade its an upgrade, they get more DPS and guess what Agility = RAP i get more DPS. Its a DPS upgrade for both. But then again every hunter by yalls logic should only use the weapon we start with because we dont melee

nakomaru의 댓글

Bottom line, it's good for both classes, and both have a right to roll for it.

Yep. In the same way warriors and hunters share equal rights to a bow.

karl55의 댓글

Sells for around 130g on my server, today someone dropped one for 70g.I had to grab it for the stats boost on my hunter.Only thing is that since my caracter is a dwarf the model is so long it goes in the ground.That thing on a gnome's would look completely ridiculous.

chypsa의 댓글

Have to agree with Narshe on this one. If a rogue looted your bow or gun or whatever, so he can get a stat boost, all the hunters would go beserk. I really can't understand why they can't understand it's the same when they take a staff like this for their stat boost.

druidsrus의 댓글

lol sucks for all you guys on the greedy servers.... i got this outta the auction house for 25g. bought some noice lvl 77-79 cata greens to go along with this. cant wait to use em

Beguga의 댓글

The drop chance is too big for this weapon it can be sold on ah for realy much but not so many ppl know that items that are for lvl 77-79 is on ah (Insane items) on my server these staff are sold up to 500g but when they drop so often it goes down to 300g realy fast so if your making a twink or want a good staff when you shall quest in cata zones w8 intil the price of the staff goes down or you can just go in to the dungeon and need on it if you can Rate me up :)

regma의 댓글

Well Im just gald you can eqip this under lvl 80.Nice stat too.

Scotia의 댓글

Have to agree with Narshe on this one. If a rogue looted your bow or gun or whatever, so he can get a stat boost, all the hunters would go beserk. I really can't understand why they can't understand it's the same when they take a staff like this for their stat boost.

Because it's not the same. A hunter is useless without a range weapon. A druid is not useless without a melee weapon. They get inherent melee damage just by shifting. A staff like this is of equal use. The same can't be said for a bow or gun that a rogue would roll on.

Feel free to try to jump all over me, but I play both a druid AND a hunter, so any angle about me hating or not understanding druids is invalid.

Theron의 댓글

Can be enchanted with Mighty Agility, making this the best weapon for ferals and hunters at lvl 75~79 pvp brackets.

Stickleback의 댓글

Anagram of 'Best Of Farts'. Honest!

Agoonga의 댓글

I'm pretty sure I've seen Therezane use this to pleasure herself.

Zandol의 댓글

Wat.

Guanyin의 댓글

Most important of it all: It's BoE and on the auction house often enough to be able to get it before you ding 78 :)

Heck, my druid's just entered outland and I already got it, with a +130 agility enchant, because it WILL come to use.Besides, if it does drop once I tank my first few Cata dungeons, I can pass on it to another feral druid or hunter.

Kyeld의 댓글

slap +130 agility on this and a hunter can easily rock this staff from 78-85 (at which point any number of ilevel 333-346 staves and polearms are available to help you gear up for heroics)

Tuarceata의 댓글

This is far and away the best Monk weapon from 78-81, at which point it is replaced with Pandaland blue BoEs such as 무정한 대가의 도끼 and later 리터의 쥐 분쇄기.

chillshiver의 댓글

Just got this for my monk. He'll be using this till 85 when he dualwields the tankards 엄청난 공포의 술잔

skreft의 댓글

I had 2 of these drop during 1 run of BRC. Sold them both for 100g each on the AH.

echoknight500의 댓글

Ummmm... Im suprised no-one asked this, but... Who is Berto? And why does he no longer have his staff? XD