There is no threshold. Fortunately most people aren't crazy psychopaths.

What exactly are you suggesting should be done?

Can't believe I am even going to wade into this because gun control debates always go so well on TW.

I am sick of these ****ing loons killing piles of people. I agree that guns make it easier to inflict massive scale damage. But, I also think that the 2nd Amendment is there for a reason, and limiting it is a very bad idea on principle. Look, I'm a life member of the NRA and lifetime hunter/2nd amendment supporter. But, I am tired of seeing dozens of people mowed down (Orlando and Vegas). But what's the answer? How do you preserve a very important and unique freedom, while ensuring some basic level of public safety?

And the issue is, in my mind at least, the give an inch take a mile problem with modern politics. Coastal liberals will not be satisfied until they disarm America, no matter what bull**** sound bites they put on the evening news about "sensible gun legislation." There is an end game with them. Anyone who can't admit that is delusional or a liar. See "Michael Bloomberg" for details. Most NRA members (not the super hardcore nutjobs) that I know, privately will agree that some small amounts of legislation to make powerful weapons harder to get is not a bad thing, but they are never going to go along with ANY legislation because they feel like if they give in on ANYTHING, the libs will just ask for more the next day.

It's the same deal on the other side with abortion. Most reasonable liberals don't think aborting a baby a week before it is born is a good idea. But, if you allow ANY restrictions on abortion, the religious right loons will just ask for more and more. They have an end game too. So, they put up a total and complete firewall. Same as the NRA. And here we are....give an inch they will take a mile politics now rules the land and no sensible legislation can occur across a number of issues - abortion and guns being two of them.

What's a "powerful weapon" and what relevance does it have to mass shootings, most of which are done with a small caliber pistol? You can pack a G17 and a dozen loaded mags and kill dozens to hundreds of people. Don't need an AR for that.

What's a "powerful weapon" and what relevance does it have to mass shootings, most of which are done with a small caliber pistol? You can pack a G17 and a dozen loaded mags and kill dozens to hundreds of people. Don't need an AR for that.

Care to elaborate on what that reason might be? You think in 1791 the dude writing this **** could foresee Vegas?

In 1791, every man that could afford one, had a gun. Besides, its not their job to foresee 1 crazy man; their job is to foresee an insanely abusive government controlling 300,000,000 people and mowing them down for any reason they want.

If I were to guess it would be ARs / M4s with 60 round drum mags. If you listen to the audio each burst is roughly 60 rounds. You can buy them anywhere for ~$100 each and are perfectly legal in Nevada, and most states for that matter.

The singular purpose of a firearm is to kill biological entities - there is literally no other purpose for why they exist. A starter pistol can be lethal. A .22 is definitely lethal. Anything 9mm and up can kill you from 50+ yards away.

I think that all fully automatic weapons should be illegal for civilians to possess. Period.

That is not an infringement of anyone's rights. Semi-automatics would still be legal, so people could have all sorts of handguns and rifles. Weapons which are sufficient to defend oneself against civilian or government threat (in the classic 2nd amendment argument).

This is reasonable and offers at least some level of protection against extremely heinous acts. Sure, people will still be killed with handguns, revolvers, rifles, knives, etc, but at least it's MORE DIFFICULT to kill lots of people. Surely, no one thinks civilians should own artilleries, cannons, grenades, etc?

edit - I think FFL should still have full auto capability but that puts you on a very short list. what's the problem? oh yeah - brainwashed RW think sandy hook CT, aurora CO, san Bernardino CA, and Vegas NV are acceptable casualty levels for drum mags and no list of crazy gun nuts

In 1791, every man that could afford one, had a gun. Besides, its not their job to foresee 1 crazy man; their job is to foresee an insanely abusive government controlling 300,000,000 people and mowing them down for any reason they want.

Awww, you forgot "tryannical". FFS people are really still swallowing this bull****? Also, "not their job"? Are we having difficulty with our tenses here? Suppose that explains some of the other dim crap.

I think that all fully automatic weapons should be illegal for civilians to possess. Period.

That is not an infringement of anyone's rights. Semi-automatics would still be legal, so people could have all sorts of handguns and rifles. Weapons which are sufficient to defend oneself against civilian or government threat (in the classic 2nd amendment argument).

This is reasonable and offers at least some level of protection against extremely heinous acts. Sure, people will still be killed with handguns, revolvers, rifles, knives, etc, but at least it's MORE DIFFICULT to kill lots of people. Surely, no one thinks civilians should own artilleries, cannons, grenades, etc?

Most semi auto ARs can be converted to full auto with minimal know-how, internet instructions, and about $50.

I think that all fully automatic weapons should be illegal for civilians to possess. Period.

That is not an infringement of anyone's rights. Semi-automatics would still be legal, so people could have all sorts of handguns and rifles. Weapons which are sufficient to defend oneself against civilian or government threat (in the classic 2nd amendment argument).

This is reasonable and offers at least some level of protection against extremely heinous acts. Sure, people will still be killed with handguns, revolvers, rifles, knives, etc, but at least it's MORE DIFFICULT to kill lots of people. Surely, no one thinks civilians should own artilleries, cannons, grenades, etc?