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Re: Sources: Raptors Would Prefer To Trade Lowry Over Calderon

Mainly because George Hill is a better player than Lowry. Your argument for Lowry is his better PGness. It is my understanding that is the reason he's lost favor in Toronto is Calderon being a better 'pure PG'. Plus Hill is tougher, better shooter and a better clutch performer.

All that said, I would love to have Lowry as a Pacer. IMO, he is a better player than DJA. If the Pacers can get him for a fair price, then great. If Toronto wants too much, then that's OK also. Lowry would be an upgrade, but he's not good enough to trade someone the Pacers need for him.

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Re: Sources: Raptors Would Prefer To Trade Lowry Over Calderon

Some of you guys see this pattern right?
-Decent point guard is available
-"HE MUST BE AN UPGRADE OF WHAT WE HAVE. A PURE PG RIGHT HERE. HE HAS MORE ASSIST DEN OUR POINT GUARDS"
-We get him
-He disappoints.

I'm content with our solid scorer and defender. George Hill for Lowry will be a lateral move at best.

Re: Sources: Raptors Would Prefer To Trade Lowry Over Calderon

My question is: Why? I thought when he arrived in Toronto he was seen as this great acquisition and that Lowry was the two-way point guard to Jose being more one-way?

Does Lowry keep getting bounced because of his personality or something like that?

He keeps getting injured, and then his replacement in this case Calderon) plays well in his absence. Considering his productivity when healthy, there has to be something that isn't quite right though, ego, attitude, ??

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Re: Sources: Raptors Would Prefer To Trade Lowry Over Calderon

He keeps getting injured, and then his replacement in this case Calderon) plays well in his absence. Considering his productivity when healthy, there has to be something that isn't quite right though, ego, attitude, ??

according to Hoopshype he has worn out his welcome yet again. He did the same thing with Kevin Mchale with the Rockets. It seems to be a trend. I like Lorwy a bit better as a player than Hill but with his baggage and what Hill does in the locker room and court I would prefer Hill to him for our team.

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Re: Sources: Raptors Would Prefer To Trade Lowry Over Calderon

The fact that he signed a contract with one year that's unguaranteed or partially guaranteed is another red flag to me. Why do that unless you know you're a risk to your team? Could be health, could be personality, but whatever it is, that's a warning.

Re: Sources: Raptors Would Prefer To Trade Lowry Over Calderon

Some of you guys see this pattern right?
-Decent point guard is available
-"HE MUST BE AN UPGRADE OF WHAT WE HAVE. A PURE PG RIGHT HERE. HE HAS MORE ASSIST DEN OUR POINT GUARDS"
-We get him
-He disappoints.

I'm content with our solid scorer and defender. George Hill for Lowry will be a lateral move at best.

Re: Sources: Raptors Would Prefer To Trade Lowry Over Calderon

He gets injured, and then his replacement steps in and has monster games. No one in that organization has ever said anything bad about him, things have just been going well with Calderon starting.

Calderon has been doing the same thing today as he has in years past. They want to replace calderon, who absolutely a good player, because he's a below average starting point guard. (in a league of point guards that isn't as bad as it sounds). It is something they've tried before, but they've simply brought in guards that aren't nearly as good as they thought they would be. Kyle Lowery can't out play Calderon, Dragic, and hypothetically Lin.

Lowry isn't that good. He would be a down grade if we replaced Hill.

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Re: Sources: Raptors Would Prefer To Trade Lowry Over Calderon

Calderon has been doing the same thing today as he has in years past. They want to replace calderon, who absolutely a good player, because he's a below average starting point guard. (in a league of point guards that isn't as bad as it sounds). It is something they've tried before, but they've simply brought in guards that aren't nearly as good as they thought they would be. Kyle Lowery can't out play Calderon, Dragic, and hypothetically Lin.

Lowry isn't that good. He would be a down grade if we replaced Hill.

I've always had Lowry in the same tier as guys like Jrue and Conley. That said, no way I trade Hill for him. Lowry just can't stay healthy long enough to trade someone like Hill away.

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure he butted heads with people in the Rockets organization, maybe after being benched in favor of Dragic.

I was talking about the Raptors in which everyone is really complimentary, unless I've been misinterpreting "pitbull" this whole time. I do remember reports of him butting heads after the benching, and I also remember reports that it was exaggerated.