That's not true, I personally know someone who was verbally offered a full ride to swim at a very large program in the Big 10 while she was still in 8th grade.

Plus, John Calapari got a 6th grader to commit to Kentucky.

Football may be different, but when I was in high school, the best football players were taking campus visits and talking to coaches by the end of their freshman year.

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I was specifically talking about football. There is a huge difference between taking a campus visits and getting an actual offer. Anyone can visit a campus on their own dime any time they want. You could be a 2 star prospect. If you actually follow college football recruiting you would know that this is pretty uncommon to get a offer as a sophmore. I am pretty sure that this is one of UCLA's firsts offer to a sophmore in football Most recruiting services will not even assign 5 star ratings to freshman and sophmores in football. It does happen, but not very often. This guy only played one year of football and is not some athletic freak.

Apprently in college football the NCAA changed the rules in 2010 to that no written offers can be made till Aug 1 going into your senior year. So there is actually a very recent trend to start making verbal offers earlier and earlier, but these are completely nonbinding on the schools and the player. So these verbal offers to sophs are actually not that meaningful since the school can pull them if you don't progress like they think you should in their junior and senior years. U Miss gave so far has given out 239 verbal offers this year. Since schools are limited to max 25 per class, you can bet many of the verbal offers are not going to mean much. If you offer 10 RBs and all 10 RB committ, Ole Miss is probably not going to take more than 2 of them.

Apprently in college football the NCAA changed the rules in 2010 to that no written offers can be made till Aug 1 going into your senior year. So there is actually a very recent trend to start making verbal offers earlier and earlier, but these are completely nonbinding on the schools and the player. So these verbal offers to sophs are actually not that meaningful since the school can pull them if you don't progress like they think you should in their junior and senior years. U Miss gave so far has given out 239 verbal offers this year. Since schools are limited to max 25 per class, you can bet many of the verbal offers are not going to mean much. If you offer 10 RBs and all 10 RB committ, Ole Miss is probably not going to take more than 2 of them.

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Yes, verbal commitments are not binding.

But..............there are serious adverse implications for a program that gets a reputation for reneging on its verbals. I don't know the facts, but if UMiss (Ole Miss, right?) gave out 239 verbals before any were rejected.....I think I can better come to grips with their W-L record in SEC football.

I would be surprised if either one of these kids turns down the scholie and plays for free. Actually I would be shocked. There is increased prestige among the players with a scholie versus those who don't have one and walked on. It adds an air of legitimacy to your athletic ability. I can think only 1-2 incidences of players from wealthy families turning down scholies to give to another player and playing for free. OTOH I can think of many, many players from wealthy families taking the money and playing.

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There's a difference between rich people and wealthy people. An NFL player is rich. A media mogul is wealthy. Rich folks can provide for their kids. Wealthy ones can provide for their great grand kids.

I don't have a firm cutoff, but if P-Diddy buys one of his kids a $300k car for his 16th birthday...I'm thinking wealthy. The kind of wealth that could fund an endowed scholarship for the program in perpetuity.

you've gotto be kidding ? there are a few local girls better than her ... Hibi,Marakova,Andrews,Xie,even Yee from Vagas .. why would USC go after her? no wonder they don't have NCAA rings like the men's team...

Not to take anything away from the local players you named, but Madison Westby is a fine prospect. I think she would be credit to any program.

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I've never seen Madison play so I can't really say .. maybe I don't know much about college recruiting ,but if I wanted to be the top NCAA team in the country ,I would go after the top 5 players from the recruiting class .. then I would go after some top foreigners from the ITF list.. with all that USC has to offer ,I think they could do better in recruiting ..

you've gotto be kidding ? there are a few local girls better than her ... Hibi,Marakova,Andrews,Xie,even Yee from Vagas .. why would USC go after her? no wonder they don't have NCAA rings like the men's team...

SC is a sleeper. They had a young team last year, Ramos did not play up to expectation as a senior.(I always thought she was over rated)

I think Coach RG is too nice with the girls.

What does "1 more year" mean?

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for sure a sleeper ... top three are solid,but they really need a top freshman to help them get over the hump.. seeing how Burdette is doing so well in the USO ,Zoe and Danielle has wins over her this year.. D.L.'s win in the NCAA was hugh.. if they could have gotten Krista Hardebeck,things would be really interesting.. this is the kind of recruiting I'm talking about that USC women's team needs ..
1 more year? I'm changing my allegiance if they(men's and women's)don't do well this coming season..

for sure a sleeper ... top three are solid,but they really need a top freshman to help them get over the hump.. seeing how Burdette is doing so well in the USO ,Zoe and Danielle has wins over her this year.. D.L.'s win in the NCAA was hugh.. if they could have gotten Krista Hardebeck,things would be really interesting.. this is the kind of recruiting I'm talking about that USC women's team needs ..
1 more year? I'm changing my allegiance if they(men's and women's)don't do well this coming season..

I'm changing my allegiance if they(men's and women's)don't do well this coming season..

UCLA if DN turns pro.. they have solid men and women team .. but another SoCal team I really love is Pepperdine ... nice to be around the ocean breeze .. not to mention our D3 team Claremont ..

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After the USO win there was a mantra throughout CA - please please please go pro (and get out of college tennis). So I am with ya on that one. However socal10s, it sounds like you are a fair weather fan? Or do you just like spreading the love to all of socal?

After the USO win there was a mantra throughout CA - please please please go pro (and get out of college tennis). So I am with ya on that one. However socal10s, it sounds like you are a fair weather fan? Or do you just like spreading the love to all of socal?

Sad that Pepperdine is sanctioned again, Adam is a cool cat.

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as title : SoCal10s.. I'm a big fan of SoCal10s because I've seen so many of the kids grow up around here ... UCI has a load of talented,smart,and well mannered socal players I hope they do well..

Exactly true. It's a merit based scholarship. Let him keep it. Sonds like he worked hard to EARN it.

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Seriously. I read an article that said even students from rich families should receive merit aid because if they're forced to reject it, that is detrimental to the student as it is saying something along the lines of "even if you work hard, if you're rich we won't reward you further".