Not totally related: Its illegal in my country to display swords and spears and death and such in a videogame (some sort of bizzare laws that has been there for awhile but no one paid attention to until it was actually enforced). Its hillarious to watch might warriors in a MMO swinging around with fans and flutes 0,0. And no, I'm not Chinese. Does that make me hate my own country for its so outdated view? No, but I can choose not to play domestic games anymore.

Each nation has its own standard, and unless it involves real people harmed I dont see any reason to be so upset about it. With that disgusting "animated child porn" of yours they still manage to export their culture oversee and actually is respected as a whole, its not a huge issue as some people try to paint it to be.

I'll be making this my last post because I'm not sure whether you're trolling, ignorant or just unbelievably stupid.

Making bad things seem less bad and more acceptable is a dangerous path to go down, especially when it involves children. I'm not quite sure how anyone with the intelligence levels greater than an underdeveloped fetus is unable to grasp that, but there it is in what I think is pretty plain English.

Oh well, I took the bait and no doubt this will get me reported for "Flaming" or a "personal attack", but oh well. If you want to carry on advocating child porn then that's up to you, pretty clear that you don't see any wrong in it and probably never will.

You are, yet again, unable to provide a coherent retort. I apologize that you're unable to engage in a decent and respectful discussion, but I suppose that must be the way of things. I would expect that, of all places, a gaming forum would consist of members able to differentiate between fantasy and reality. Even if such views are not something I share, I recognize that those that do enjoy animated loli are doing no harm to anyone.

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Not totally related: Its illegal in my country to display swords and spears and death and such in a videogame (some sort of bizzare laws that has been there for awhile but no one paid attention to until it was actually enforced). Its hillarious to watch might warriors in a MMO swinging around with fans and flutes 0,0. And no, I'm not Chinese. Does that make me hate my own country for its so outdated view? No, but I can choose not to play domestic games anymore.

Each nation has its own standard, and unless it involves real people harmed I dont see any reason to be so upset about it. With that disgusting "animated child porn" they still managed to export their culture oversee and actually is respected as a whole, its not a huge issue as some people try to paint it to be.

actually this is called psychopathic tendencies and thoughts, while yes probably about 75-80% of everyone has some sort of psychopathic thoughts fantasizing about killing someone is not something that has ever entered my mind, and if it has yours or does on a daily basis that would be the point in time to seek a mental hospital or at the very least a shrink. ive been in fights and ive wanted to beat the crap out of plenty of people, but i have never thought or sat there and day-dreamed about picking up a screwdriver and shoving it into someone's neck that i hate, or throwing someone into a wood chipper.

also, defending the depictions and actions of child porn in any medium is a poor choice in thought. there is a clear difference between modeling and porn. if you choose to defend the very light and seemingly harmless versions of it then that is just the same as endorsing the hardcore child rapey versions of it. and trying to compare something like pedophilia with something like a foot fetish is stupid and getting a intelligent conversation or debate absolutely nowhere and is serving as nothing more then a red herring to distract simple minds.

There's a fine line between thinking of taking a gun to someone's head once in a while and skinning someone alive daily.

if you choose to defend the very light and seemingly harmless versions of it then that is just the same as endorsing the hardcore child rapey versions of it.

No. I'm not Chinese. And I'm not living in China atm. But its way off topic so I wont be back to this.

Last edit: I sometimes read loli mangas (not anime, never seen a loli anime in my life and I doubt its possible even if I did look for it), not really interested in loli but I do like and jerk off to the ones tagged "forced". Got a GF, about to get married. Still jerk off to it when I was away on bussiness trips (that last for at least a month). I consider myself perfectly normal, so if there are people that like loli let them be. Its not like its causing the world any real harm :\

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I voted Japan, because well...we're nerds, we like games and computers and technology, and I have always been in lust for any country that has a place they call 'the technology district'.
I mean, come. the. fuck. on.
the technology district.
I don't even care if it's good or not, that's like naming something 'the super awesome nerds will love it district', but it rolls off the tongue easier...I'd HAVE to go.
Anyways, take pics, and post em in this thread later so we can all enjoy the highlights

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Proof that the mmochamp community can be a bitter and lonely place. What a shame.

I voted Japan, because well...we're nerds, we like games and computers and technology, and I have always been in lust for any country that has a place they call 'the technology district'.
I mean, come. the. fuck. on.
the technology district.
I don't even care if it's good or not, that's like naming something 'the super awesome nerds will love it district', but it rolls off the tongue easier...I'd HAVE to go.
Anyways, take pics, and post em in this thread later so we can all enjoy the highlights

Never did say on a daily basis, but I'm sure everyone on earth has had these thoughts at least once in their life.

again, big difference in thinking to yourself one day man i would really love to run that a-hole of the side of this cliff for cutting me off, and living everyday enthralled in fantasies that involve young undeveloped boys and girls. no im not saying everyone is like this but personally i know what kind of porn i like and that gets my motor running so i stick with it. if child porn is someone else's they are gona stick with what they like and personally that is just absolutely disgusting. give me the fully developed women with real (nice/developed) boddies. now im not saying either that if you like/watch child porn your whole life your gonna start snatching up children. but im not ignorant enough to believe just because i watch it IM NOT enabling the people who do abduct children, rape them, force them to be in sexual scenes etc etc.

In truthfulnes, we live in a barbaric age regarding sexual rights and the self defined right for basis of attraction. In the past ages and indeed until very recently being a homosexual was a criminal offence, it was viewed as morally rehensible and as such people were persecuted for no fault of there own.

Regarding peoples attraction to children, its a sexual miniority just like homosexuals or pansexuals etcetera, etcetera. But yet society as a whole loves to deem these unfortunate people as worse than beasts, indeed they like to portray these kind of people as the like that would attempt to abduct your child and rape them viciously at any given chance.

It's just not true, its extremely unfortunate that sexual crimes occur but those are the said persons fault for loss of self control or they might posses various traits that twist there perception of society and to a greater extent how they would conduct themselves in society as a whole.

I'd like to sum my views on this with an encounter i had with somebody from SOCA (Serious organised crime agency, there related to tracking down and persecuting pedophiles and the kind) And i put this question to him.
Are pedophiles at fault for there sexual preferences. His response was no, most people hold there sexual desires/ deviances in check and lead a normal life. There are a minority of people with sexual attractions that will act in an aberrant way and therefor paint the rest of the people who hold this sexual attraction as dangerous rapists.

He was a very nice man, and he was clear on what he did and how he supported CEOP. He also came from St ives, its quite far away from where we met (It was organised between us by his agency and my worker and was definitely an experience i enjoyed, so much so he left me his number if i had any further questions to ask him.)

OT it's a mixture of dark age attitudes, and people attacking it like they once did with homosexuals.

My view on loli or whatever you want to call it, i dont mind it. I certainly dont want it paraded around the world as the social norm because its certainly not, but what harm will come of it if said people with attractions do indeed look at it? Nothing in my opinion.

How does looking at loli make it easier for people to abduct and rape real children?

again you can look to my first post. if you support the seemingly innocent medium of it, then you fully endorse the complete opposite spectrum as well. now, however you want to get your jollies by all means go for it im simply posting my opinion on the matter.

again you can look to my first post. if you support the seemingly innocent medium of it, then you fully endorse the complete opposite spectrum as well. now, however you want to get your jollies by all means go for it im simply posting my opinion on the matter.

So you mean, if we support people whos sexual attractions dont harm people whatsoever we must accept those who go against the definition of what it means to be a human. That we must accept people who rape/ commit sexual crimes?

Thats what i got from your post, i dont accept them and indeed hope they one day understand the gravity of there crimes and can somehow repay society after being rehabilitated/ imprisioned for there offences.

Last edited by Manakin; 2012-12-29 at 07:18 AM.
Reason: Clearing up slightly a point raised.

Neither would be my first choice as Im not overly enthusiastic about Asia.. but trying to stay unbiased, I'd go with Japan. I think there's just more to see there and more unique culture. Korea seems a generic metropolis where people don't speak english but then again, Im not completely familiar with neither.

Neither would be my first choice as Im not overly enthusiastic about Asia.. but trying to stay unbiased, I'd go with Japan. I think there's just more to see there and more unique culture. Korea seems a generic metropolis where people don't speak english but then again, Im not completely familiar with neither.

Just like New York is a generic metropolis where people don't speak Korean.

Japan. Most of younger people speak at least passable English because its taught in their schools (guessing that has to do with WW2 and their respect for us), and they really, really, like white people there. Seriously, a lot of Japanese people are racist towards everyone else but white people, guessing that has to do with WW2 as well. They like black people (from america) as well, but not as much. There is still a lot of bigotry and under the table nationalism in japan left over from the old days. The tuorist industry there is great, and there are loads of great shops in Tokyo and the foods great.

Korea is nice, but not as many people speak English, and the countryside isn't as fun as Japan's. Also there is always the slim chance NK might decide to go apeshit while your visiting the south.

Look if you are wanting an internet speed that only gods can acquire then South Korea, otherwise Japan.

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Originally Posted by Defengar

Japan. Most of younger people speak at least passable English because its taught in their schools (guessing that has to do with WW2 and their respect for us), and they really, really, like white people there. Seriously, a lot of Japanese people are racist towards everyone else but white people, guessing that has to do with WW2 as well. They like black people (from america) as well, but not as much. There is still a lot of bigotry and under the table nationalism in japan left over from the old days. The tuorist industry there is great, and there are loads of great shops in Tokyo and the foods great.

Korea is nice, but not as many people speak English, and the countryside isn't as fun as Japan's. Also there is always the slim chance NK might decide to go apeshit while your visiting the south.

Wait so they like Americans? Hmmm, that's a first for me considering a lot of countries I've been too, they just hear my accent and are like "oh fuck it" but that does sound nice then, might go to Japan sometime too.