The capture of the December 29th phone call, which generated the raw “CR cuts“, was an FBI summary, modified for a specific interpretation. Much like the missing 302 there is now a very strong probability the FBI ‘CR cuts’ do not represent the actual call content.

In this short interview segment Trey Gowdy alludes to one issue, and speaks directly to another. First, the only reason the FBI opened the internal INSD review is because the information previously hidden has become public. Second, the Flynn-Kislyak calls that Trey Gowdy has reviewed were “boring” nothing-burgers. WATCH:

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SELECTIVE CAPTURE – Did you note the part where the FBI told Gowdy some of the Flynn phone calls were “not captured”? Wouldn’t it be a very convenient framework if the FBI was going to summarize one of those non-captured calls into a “CR cut.”

FBI: “Oh, sorry, we don’t have the actual transcript, but we do have a summary of what we interpreted that call content to be.” Huh, funny that.

Lastly, does anyone else find it odd that now is Trey Gowdy admitting that he viewed the Flynn-Kislyak phone call transcripts. I wonder why he waited to say that….

I am a pathetic loser…I bought Gowdy’s aw-shucks and yes-ma’am act for years (Benghazi for starters). Now that I see through it, just watching him makes my skin crawl. I can tell he knows it now too. Tucker & Twitter took him down and now everyone sees that he’s just a player like all the rest (so now he’s tryin” to be extra earnest). But even worse than that. He facilitated the opposition’s efforts to obfuscate and shut down the truth, and he did it on the inside, on the Right…year after year. In some ways, that’s even more craven than Shiff.

“But even worse than that. He facilitated the opposition’s efforts to obfuscate and shut down the truth, and he did it on the inside, on the Right…year after year. In some ways, that’s even more craven than Shiff.”

For a moment, I thought you were talking about that other person representing South Carolina, Lindsey Graham.

Right! I still have trouble wrapping my head around the fact that Gowdy is all of TV theses days talking about all of the inside information he has on this case—knowledge he has had for YEARS! And yet, he did nothing to stand up for our President and what is just!

I will say it again. Obama did not spy on Trump. Comey Brennan and clapper pulled a Hoover. they wanted to keep their jobs. They spied on Trump, hid it from Obama, and implicated Obama at the 11th hour. It may not be a popular theory but that is how it plays out. They are using the first Kenyan president as a shield to hide their duplicity. If Trump and Obama get on the same page, they can take them all down. Wouldn’t that be mind blowing.

president stompy-foot won’t be touched, but if at the end this debacle his legislative ‘legacy’ is erased and he is exposed as the most clueless and incompetent puppet-string dancing potus in history, with corrupt minions operating behind his back and without his knowledge, LOL, completely unbeknownst to him, then I’ll just have to settle for that.

Yes, those which were released, raises the same haunting question of what is withheld.

We’ve been put through hell by these phonys and deserve to know the full dimensions of this ongoing scheme.
Assange, Stone and Manafort are beggared and incarcerated; Wray’s leisurely pace and the law in general’s stately slooow deliberations is inappropriate to the pressing need for remedial justice

These closed door mtgs and pleads of the fifth tell me we got in this tix by tolerating opacity that benefits only crooked bureaucrats and their CONgressional allies.

I’m willing to reserve judgment on Obama. That is the story his defenders want out there. But, you know what? They were happy to let this play out for several years without doing anything to correct the record since it served their interests just fine to see Trump bogged down by Russia conspiracy BS.

That said, does anyone really expect team Obama to consider Comey trustworthy on anything at all after that Clinton fiasco where Comey cleared Hillary, but then didn’t last minute. At that January 5 meeting that Rice memorialized after the fact, that time all the Dems hated Comey for his re-opening of sorts the email investigation just before the election. I doubt any Dems forgave him by this point.

Disagree 100%! Obama hates Trump and Flynn!! He may not have known exactly what Comey, Clapper, and Brennan were up to or how they were doing what they were doing it, but he did know enough, enough to not say “no, don’t do that.” Obama did NOT want Trump winning the election or Flynn as NSA if Trump were to win! Obama may NOT have personally ordered the nefarious activity that took place, but he was sure as hell complicit in it. He was the President! He was in charge! He was a control freak in the White House. He was a micro manager. He knew some bad stuff was happening, hence Susan Rice’s CYA letter.

Obama’s legacy is what matters to him most. All the events that took place prior to, during, and post 2016 was designed to preserve his legacy…and, yes, even preserve a few of those jobs you mentioned should Hillary get elected.

And that has been Zero’s MO since he was in Chicago. It is amazing how many people did unethical/illegal things just out of the kindness of their hearts to help little ol’ clueless Obama along in his career.

There was a whole lotta spying going on in the Obama administration. The Arab Spring initiative, (with google execs)’ the IRS spying, the “Hammer” program, the data collection program on everyone that Maxine Waters bragged about to Roland Martin on CNN, the spying on Team Trump, etc. Obama knew, Valerie Jarrett knew. His cadre of Czars, appointees, Ambassadors, CIA, FBI, Foreign collaborators knew bits and pieces. Obama’s spying seems to have been modeled on the infamous KGB. Perhaps this was the dreams from his father he wrote about.

If Trump and Obama get on the same page? those 8 words shoot down your theory. Trump has been very adamant that Obama was in on this. And listening to Obama lately he sure doesn’t sound like they’ll be having tea anytime soon.

Gowdy really confuses me as at one time saw him just a patriot looking for the truth, then something happen.
I hope it was Ryan that I thought at the time preventing him from following thru at the time but what is stopping him now.
If you want to be on the stage it is time to come clean.

The lack of a transcript will be interpreted by the baying hyenas as proof positive that Orange Man Bad is obstructing justice because he knows that the conveniently missing transcript is the one the FBI based the lying/perjury/treason charge on.

Grenell: “I took the liberty of calling my buds in Italy and asked them for a copy of the audio that they sent Comey. Here’s a transcript of the call used to make the tech cut that was shared with Obama on Jan 3rd, and the tech cut. Enjoy.”

Aghastin: The Benghazi Hearing was my tipoff to Mr. Gowdy. His talking out of both sides of his mouth in the early days of what was Russiagate, then Spygate confirmed my opinion. Now that Obamagate has blossomed open, he wants to tell us what he knew.

I understand he couldn’t divulge the classified information, but he defended the fbi and Mueller and he knew there was nothing there.

Yep. As an outsider still not completely au fait with American political life it is astounding to me.
‘Yeah, it’s a real shame him and his family and friends were railroaded and got the chair. We knew they were innocent, saw the evidence and everything, but the rules said we couldn’t say anything until after the funeral.’
These people would rather see a President framed than get a ticking off from some diddly do squat congressional committee.
Beyond bizarre.

In essence yes. Everyone has dirt on everyone else. But really, it’s the leadership that collects, holds and executes on the dirt. Everyone else trades favors with leadership with the dirt they find on other members that leadership can use to whip votes. At least that’s my opinion.

Actually you could say the same thing about the Democrats. Impeachment for political gain is against what the Founders intended, and they set up roadblocks to prevent it, which Dirty Nancy knocked down. She should go down as the worst Speaker in history, a total corruptocrat! The fact that Democrats admire her tells you all you need to know about them: they are trash.

Even in my wildest imagination I did not want to believe that it was this corrupt. I have been falsely charged with a crime, I endured, I prevailed. But I thought it was an aberration and the proverbial one bad apple in the basket. Washington is beyond repair. The SES needs to be abolished.

When I feel good about maybe finally seeing Justice coming, at least to some, I think about Don Trump—what he has gone through day after day—donating his salary; fighting like I’ve never seen a politician fight—to fulfill every campaign promise and facing all the time this Deep State/NY Media Coup.

It is a remarkable example of perseverance and tenacity. Done only, as far as I can tell—because he loves his country.

I actually teared up today, when he was announcing the need to OPEN the churches. I did so because I am so disgusted by all the vitriol and hatred directed at him. He LOVES this country, and his detractors spend every minute of every day attempting to take him down. (or out)

Does anyone other than me remember Gowdy being interviewed alongside John Ratcliffe and gushingly calling him ‘Johnny’ like they were in some sort of ‘bromance’? I can recall Gowdy interviews where Ratcliffe wasn’t alongside him yet he would wax poetic about what he and his great lawyer friend ‘Johnny’ Ratcliffe had seen.

That always raised a red flag with me because even way back then we knew what Gowdy was.

God I hope I’m dead wrong. Especially in light of how great Ric Grenell has been.

Nunes once tasked Gowdy with reviewing everything classified for him. Eventually Nunes smelled a rat. Or Kash smelled a rat. Nunes began using Radcliff and staff to review classified material. Ryan and Gowdy were joined at the hip. It’s probably why Gowdy suddenly retired…

Me too, howdy refers to him as Johnny. I have a bad feeling. Please Lord God I pray that Ratcliffe is a true patriot and will do the work for the american people. Amen. I have written on another thread, that just because Ratcliffe was good at the Mueller hearing, was that an audition to get a nomination? Lord forgive me, something does not jive with that man. Sorry Treepers, just my Canadian opinion.

You know what I’m looking forward to? I’m looking forward to the day very soon that Vladimir Putin declassifies HIS copy of the Flynn-Kislyak call transcript. If you think the Russian Ambassador can have a chat with the incoming US National Security Advisor without keeping a complete record of the call, I know a Nigerian prince I’d like to introduce you to.

Gowdy throwing Rice a lifeline? If he “saw” the “transcript” that doesn’t exist, she can always claim the “transcript” exonerates her and that the Trump’s DOJ are really the ones that “lost” it/obstructed justice to make it “lost”.

While we justifiably complain about how poorly served we were by Republican, Jeff Sessions, we also need to put Dan Coats, another Republican, in the same category, perhaps, way worse. Coats had to know all the dirty details that are being released by Grenell. He failed to protect the President and essentially lied to the American people. By omission or otherwise, he lied…

People are still walking away from the Dem party but I am more concerned about election and voter fraud. Don’t worry about poll numbers for now, it’s a joke anybody would think the country would be in good hands with Dementia Joe. the only people that would vote for him would have TDS.

Compared to Biden I don’t really know if his numbers are dropping. Can’t believe any poll. How could people vote for Biden when they know he will NOT make one decision. The people making all the decisions will ALL be unelected officials. The only way they might possibly win is by cheating. JUST VOTE!

Oh, and it would appear that, essentially, United States Army Lieutenant General Michael T. Flynn was coerced into pleading “guilty” based on “evidence” that… wait for it… doesn’t exist. No 302. No recorded calls. No call transcript. That is the DEFINITION of Third World Banana Republic. Or pretty close to it. Or maybe First World Kafka Republic for the Wine ‘n Cheese crowd.

But I guess it’s all consistent with everything else… fake FISA Warrants and whatnot. So they have that going for them.

Rooster is the guy in your high school that acted all hyped and smart azz – then ran like hades when somebody went at him. Total wuss. Don’t believe a word he says. Need confirmation from any and all other sources.

so Gowdy is, in essence, saying he hasn’t read all the transcripts… as Nunes choice to see the most secret docs muh Russia up to 2018?
now what? somebody claims they have them? (and it doesn’t look good for Orange!)
The more I see Gowdy the more I think he practices scenes from The Flim Flam Man in the mirror.

Wray cannot decline, only recommend to Barr. Hopefully PDJT has told Barr that if he publicly declines on anybody above janitor without consulting POTUS, his ass will hit the parking lot a couple seconds before his bagpipes!

On the plus side gowdy did mention the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. Maybe we can get some clarity there. I mean did you know that the New Jersey police head on the investigation was Norman Schwarzkopf senior, father of the general?
Did you know he later parlayed his notoriety into consulting work with the Iranian secret police?
And that decades later, his son the general, was a member of some council on how to bring Iran back to normalcy?
And speaking of Lindbergh again, did you know that there are theories that Bruno Hauptmann was a patsy to the …
Ah whatever. Thanks Trey.

I would say two things:
1.) They weren’t given everything they requested (and subsequently demanded), and
2.) Declassification has only really started now… so anything they DID have access to (which is, apparently, all the boring stuff), they probably couldn’t discuss in any revealing way.

Who knows. What I DO know is that Congress went so far as to threaten Rosenstein with contempt due to DOJ/FBI holding back critical documents. Of course, they never went through with the charge… not that it would have changed anything about where we are today, IMO.

That being said: Ratcliffe is now in the Catbird Seat. Let’s hope he takes advantage of that.

Rep. Nunes read and knew a lot stuff. However, he didn’t utter a peep about it for years IF it happened to be “classified” stuff, which is how the federal government hides it’s criminal behavior (according to CIA whistle blower Kevin Schipp).

Deplorable: Had Devin Nunes uttered a single word, they would have had him arrested for releasing classified material. Unlike, Schiff, Brennan…who can get away with it. Devin is smart, honest and disciplined.

I’m curious if there is a program that exists that would permit intelligence sharing for law enforcement purposes of FVEY partner intelligence. It sounds like the kind of thing that would have been created after 9/11 to allow existing intelligence to avoid getting stuck in a silo. I could imagine such a program requiring that any such product be limited to a summary and not an actual transcript to limit 4th amendment problems.

If there was such a thing then I bet it would operate as a counter terrorism program. You can imagine the desire to create an intel sharing system of some kind to prevent the British intelligence from having specific information about an imminent attack and not having the ability to tell the right people about it.

If there was such a program and it really is important in order to prevent real terror attacks then you could imagine that it would be a real dilemma for someone aware of abuses in the program. If you revealed that the program was being abused then a very important tool gets taken away from legitimate work to prevent attacks. I would guess a person caught up in that particular dilemma would behave pretty much exactly like Trey Gowdy over the last few years.

Whatever the source of the Flynn call summary it is becoming very likely that some important law enforcement tool is being endangered. It may be a domestic FBI program but I still think it is going to be the Brits that will be the source. I don’t think Gowdy is evil for wanting this to stay hidden. Just wrong.

When did we find out there was a potential problem with the 302’s, before or after the Strozk-Page texts about editing and finding somebody’s voice came out?

Which would be worse, for a couple of FBI agents to have diddled a 302, or for the FBI leadership to fake a transcript that went up the food chain to the Oval and was used to entrap an incoming National Security Advisor and throw a monkey wrench into the coming President’s ability to govern?

Let’s turn for a moment to the FBI of yesteryear, to show how little the organization has changed.
In 1935 the FBI had Ma Barker and her son Fred surrounded at a rental house near Lake Weir FL. After an hours-long gun fight, things got quiet.
One of the agents ordered Willie Woodbury, the African American handyman at the property, to go inside and check. When he balked, the FBI agent told him “Look boy, its not like you have a choice.”
Well, the Barkers were dead, and Hoover announced to the nation that the great criminal mastermind Ma Barker was finally dead. Of course not everyone was impressed. Baby Face Nelson said that Ma Barker couldn’t plan breakfast.

Article: “Lastly, does anyone else find it odd that now is Trey Gowdy admitting that he viewed the Flynn-Kislyak phone call transcripts. I wonder why he waited to say that….”

Because, just like William Barr, Mitch McConnell, and so many others – it takes the glaring hot sunlight of transparency to get them up off their asses. Nothing less will do (in the past; the present; and into the future). As soon as there is even the slightest hint of shade – they all sit back down.

Everyone needs to remember the Special Counsel mucked everything up. Anyone may have wanted to release this stuff, but they would’ve been viewed as obstructing justice (true or not).

All of the surveillance (5 eyes and otherwise) in 2016 had to be cleaned up. The insurance policy (or policies) had to be invoked, as everything had already been gamed out.

What’s really sad is how many other things they should have been doing all this time. Oh, you know, like, make sure terror cells weren’t activated or taking out the caliph…something important like that.

I’m guessing Trey was a good human at one point. Then he got entangled by something… some proclivity,… and they got something on him. That’s how a lot of the DC swamp became part of the swamp. Just ask Epstein.

Funny how Rooster Head remembers all of the details now and didn’t fight for POTUS in the past. It seems Ryan was giving him his marching orders to shut up, play nice and sit in the corner. Now he is the “knower” of all since the Never-Trumper McCallum has him on every damn night!

Why did Gowdy wait? Well, you see, Gowdy had to recuse himself due to his strong attorney ethics rules.
Just like former AG Jeff.
They both are just too durn ethical to do something that that would help a man prove his innocence. Their ethics are more important than the truth.

They were all wrapped up in their little James Bond espionage, thinking they were just so much smarter than the average peons, doing King Obama’s bidding. Comey isn’t running his mouth on Twitter now and I can imagine him forking over thousands to his lawyer and that makes me happy. I hope they all go broke. Every Single Last One of Them who were involved. There’ll be no punishment for those who knew and did nothing like Trey Gowdy and Paul Ryan. Maybe in the next life.

Gowdy is under contract with Fox. He can’t just hide in South Carolina. He’s ignoring what he’s said previously, and acting like an informed source. My guess is he has worked something out with them to not be confronted.

The US Intercepts the call. They can’t use it. Brennan calls GHCQ and pulls a favor. He get them to send him the transcript on the side. ILLEGAL. He takes parts of the conversation and sends them to Peter Strzok, thinking they can use this and never reveal how they got it..

Strzok uses the ‘cuts’ to interview Flynn. They got nothing on Flynn. They end up having to get him on the fabricated lying charge. HOWEVER…..

Someone in the FBI leaked the cuts without talking with Brennan. This put Brennan in a HUGE bind. He used illegally obtained intelligence.

When Hannigan, the British GHCQ guy, found out, he knew his career was over. He resigned.

Gowdy rightly asks Wray what’s he been doing for the last three years. The community asks Gowdy WTF were you doing for 2 years when you could have ensured accountability was a lot more contemporaneous.

Gowdy is looking worse and worse the more that comes out that he has already seen but did nothing about.

All the sudden Trey Gowdy is a wealth of information!!! He’s seen all kind of documents and intelligence…but if you listened to him on any news program when the active witch hunt was going on—he dint know nuthin.
It’s amazing how that happens.

Hmmm, yeah, Roosterhead. I’m not particularly for him, yet I’m not agin him either. He’s let us down a few times, yet his explanations are plausible given the politics. I get the sense he wants to be the superhero prosecuting the bad guys; but he was stuck in congress wearing their balls and chains.