German press saying that Boris’ concession is that UK will do the Customs checks on goods destined for EU before they get to EU. Northern Ireland companies would get the EU duties that they have to pay reimbursed by UK Govt. Allows Boris to say that N. Ireland remains officially in the UK Customs area eliminating need for border controls in Ireland. Apparently the idea had been knocking around before but then May came up with the backstop.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 11:59 - Oct 12 by longlostjack

German press saying that Boris’ concession is that UK will do the Customs checks on goods destined for EU before they get to EU. Northern Ireland companies would get the EU duties that they have to pay reimbursed by UK Govt. Allows Boris to say that N. Ireland remains officially in the UK Customs area eliminating need for border controls in Ireland. Apparently the idea had been knocking around before but then May came up with the backstop.

And the great British taxpayer has to foot the bill for the difference? Feckin great.

Brexit really is a crock of sh1t.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:30 - Oct 12 with 672 views

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:24 - Oct 12 by Pegojack

And the great British taxpayer has to foot the bill for the difference? Feckin great.

Brexit really is a crock of sh1t.

Exactly. It’s why any deal needs to be put back to the people for their approval. Straight question. This is the deal or would you prefer to remain. I’m sure Brexiteers would have no objection to listening to the will of the people.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 12:30 - Oct 12 by longlostjack

Exactly. It’s why any deal needs to be put back to the people for their approval. Straight question. This is the deal or would you prefer to remain. I’m sure Brexiteers would have no objection to listening to the will of the people.

I certainly wouldn't mind but then, I'd also like clarification about what remaining will mean. What rule changes are actually in the pipeline, are the vetoes and rebates going to be phased out. will we have to adopt the Euro, what about the plans for an EU army.

It's often claimed many leavers have changed their minds well the only way to know for sure is another vote (even though it goes against the grain) but this time maybe the politicians on all sides should tell us the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

I'd prefer a GE but Labour (and the other oppo combined) are not going to have that because they seem to think they'll lose, I wonder why?

This is why I'm all for a written constitution. No grey areas (as much as is possible) no wriggle room or digging up ancient mechanisms but definitely have it written into law that any politician caught breaking the law or wilfully deceiving the electorate is sacked on the spot. I do believe that if the original referendum campaign had been more truthful from both sides, the outcome could have been different.

Of course the big problem will always be exactly the same as we have already have, will the losing side accept the result?

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:15 - Oct 12 by Highjack

The art of clairvoyance has been debunked by most but remainers are still clinging on to it like a warm comfort blanket.

That is the most irritating aspect. The total belief that every negative prediction around brexit is completely accurate whilst every positive prediction is complete nonsense. It's hand in glove with the attitude that anything bad that has happened is all down to brexit but anything good that happens is in spite of brexit.

When the pound slumped remainers were up in arms (WoL comments) because imports will be more expensive but when the pound gained a bit recently those same remainers were up in arms again because exports will be more expensive. Whichever way it goes they are not happy.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:32 - Oct 12 by Catullus

That is the most irritating aspect. The total belief that every negative prediction around brexit is completely accurate whilst every positive prediction is complete nonsense. It's hand in glove with the attitude that anything bad that has happened is all down to brexit but anything good that happens is in spite of brexit.

When the pound slumped remainers were up in arms (WoL comments) because imports will be more expensive but when the pound gained a bit recently those same remainers were up in arms again because exports will be more expensive. Whichever way it goes they are not happy.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 16:53 - Oct 12 by exiledclaseboy

A negotiating position. Although I wasn’t aware of that.

They’ve just Published an interview with Dodds. It’s taken them this long to understand the proposal.

I’m not sure they’ll come round - as far as they’re concerned it’s the same as May’s deal (as for NI it is apart from a nonsensical left hand right hand fudge). Actually worse as they will remain in customs union (to all economic intents and purposes) but also in the Single Market (which wasn’t there before).

Johnson was always going to pivot to throwing the DUP under the bus.

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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:00 - Oct 12 by londonlisa2001

They’ve just Published an interview with Dodds. It’s taken them this long to understand the proposal.

I’m not sure they’ll come round - as far as they’re concerned it’s the same as May’s deal (as for NI it is apart from a nonsensical left hand right hand fudge). Actually worse as they will remain in customs union (to all economic intents and purposes) but also in the Single Market (which wasn’t there before).

Johnson was always going to pivot to throwing the DUP under the bus.

It’s almost like there’s no actual solution to the border issue. Who’d have thought it.

Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK on 17:00 - Oct 12 by londonlisa2001

They’ve just Published an interview with Dodds. It’s taken them this long to understand the proposal.

I’m not sure they’ll come round - as far as they’re concerned it’s the same as May’s deal (as for NI it is apart from a nonsensical left hand right hand fudge). Actually worse as they will remain in customs union (to all economic intents and purposes) but also in the Single Market (which wasn’t there before).

Johnson was always going to pivot to throwing the DUP under the bus.

Old ‘Surrender’ Johnson ..... looking after himself first, of course ... 🇪🇺