Diver52 wrote:Time in Motion, a $650,000 firster by Uncle Mo x Flirting with Fate, pulled up in the 7th (MSW) at Gulfstream and was reportedly euthanized. He was a half-brother to Dancing With Fate (or maybe it was Dances With Fate?) who suffered a fatal training injury to end a fine career. RIP youngster.

The half brother you are thinking of was Dance with Fate by Two Step Salsa. May they both RIP.

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How horrible, I was not at the track today but was reading the results on Bloodhorse and noticed Bernadiva, Speighal wasn't listed in the results. Good that I've seen this before watching the replay (now I'll skip it). That makes 1 death yesterday and 1 today at GP - I'm glad I haven't been there.

mariasmon wrote:MG1W It's Tricky (dam of the promising Enticed) apparently died this year and produced a dead foal, as well.

I don't know how I missed this, and I only found out while watching Barbara Livingston's 2017 In Memoriam, so I am fairly crushed right now. She was a huge favourite of mine and I am surprised this didn't make any headlines whatsoever.

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mariasmon wrote:MG1W It's Tricky (dam of the promising Enticed) apparently died this year and produced a dead foal, as well.

I don't know how I missed this, and I only found out while watching Barbara Livingston's 2017 In Memoriam, so I am fairly crushed right now. She was a huge favourite of mine and I am surprised this didn't make any headlines whatsoever.

I don't think they released the information and mariasmon found it when searching for either 2017 foals or who mares were bred to for 2018.

mariasmon wrote:MG1W It's Tricky (dam of the promising Enticed) apparently died this year and produced a dead foal, as well.

I don't know how I missed this, and I only found out while watching Barbara Livingston's 2017 In Memoriam, so I am fairly crushed right now. She was a huge favourite of mine and I am surprised this didn't make any headlines whatsoever.

I don't think they released the information and mariasmon found it when searching for either 2017 foals or who mares were bred to for 2018.

Pretty much. Someone on another forum asked me about her specifically after Enticed won the Kentucky Jockey Club and I found the info then.

I am fearful that more familiar names are going to show up on that list. I keep a close watch on the Camarero entries hoping for some of the missing ancient War Horses to show up, and it's not because I want to see them continue to race, but rather a relief to know that they are still alive. Several have resurfaced in the new year, but I am very concerned about a number of them that appear to be missing - in particular, a few older mares - 13yo Worthy of Wings who has 133 starts behind her, 12yo Princesa Dorada with 123 starts, and 12yo La Comeriena , with 138 starts. There are others, as well. I do understand that they need to race in order to generate much needed money, but something at Camarero is just not sitting well with me at the moment...

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I am fearful that more familiar names are going to show up on that list. I keep a close watch on the Camarero entries hoping for some of the missing ancient War Horses to show up, and it's not because I want to see them continue to race, but rather a relief to know that they are still alive. Several have resurfaced in the new year, but I am very concerned about a number of them that appear to be missing - in particular, a few older mares - 13yo Worthy of Wings who has 133 starts behind her, 12yo Princesa Dorada with 123 starts, and 12yo La Comeriena , with 138 starts. There are others, as well. I do understand that they need to race in order to generate much needed money, but something at Camarero is just not sitting well with me at the moment...

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That's how I feel too. I want to see them show up in the entries so I know they are still alive, but that's no guarantee they are out of danger.

Camarero has to make repairs to the barns. They make excuses that they are waiting for insurance money, but that is absurd. They started racing again before meeting the basic needs of the horses. Of course some of them can't perform well when they are standing in muck and not being cared for.

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2/2 there r lawsuits & counter-lawsuits being pursued; meanwhile, ~4 horses day r dying now! Horse welfare should be priority. They are backbone of Racing & make industry possible, but mostly b/c they are living, sentiment beings. 0 excuse many horses still in unsafe, often wet/mucky stalls

Merciful Goddess...that sounds like the owners there have just written those horses off as losses...and don't want to spend a dime to keep them alive, let alone bring them back to health.
'Let the old horses die, buy younger ones for racing' seems to be their business plan.

It's the same as people bringing in an old dog to a shelter and asking if there are any puppies. But realistically, these owners are probably operating on razor thin margins at the best of times. They need animals who can race now.

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Diver52 wrote:It's the same as people bringing in an old dog to a shelter and asking if there are any puppies. But realistically, these owners are probably operating on razor thin margins at the best of times. They need animals who can race now.

I'm not understanding why this is still happening- where is the industry support and rallying and fundraising for these horses like there is/ was for the SLR fire victims?? Is it because, for the most part, these are US racing industry cast offs that are beyond the usefulness for the connections that exiled them to PR in the first place? Sad, sad state of affairs that represent the ugly truth of the life of a cast off racehorse.