Thoughts on it. 1: It's somehow related to Aku, she has his trademark headpiece. 2: The idea has been brought up that it is Aku who possed Blossom's body. Personally, I think its fucked up as hell. but there are two ways that I think it can work so far. *2a: Aku possed Blossom's dead body for some sort of sick reason.*2b: Blossom didn't actually die, but made a deal with Aku for revenge on Him (and possibly to free Mimi). 3: Its a daughter between Aku and Blossom. I'm having the most trouble understanding this one, because I can't find a logical reason for her to do that unless she has a fetish for demons. She also looks older than Mimi, imho.

2b seems the most logical to me, and the most interesting. I know the GT page isn't serious, but it intrigues me for obvious reasons. I should comb through the recent updates and look for supporting evidence...just because.

I remember reading somewhere--either in this forum or on Deviantart--that Mimi resulted from a rape. Considering Him's characterization in this comic, and given how GT exists for shock value, I accept that. So let's say that Blossom probably wanted nothing to do with Him whatsoever from the beginning...

Actually now that I think about it, your 3 could tie-in with 2b...maybe the deal she made was becoming Aku's minion/wife/whatever? (I don't know if I should go beyond this because I'm biased...)

Then of course there's the disembodied Demongo head, which probably means one of two things:1. The girl is Aku and Blossom's daughter, and Demongo is like her accompanying protector/guardian, what with being his master's greatest minion and all. Maybe Aku is raising her as a single parent and plans to fight Him and Mimi or something. (Or alternatively Aku and Him are bros that both think Blossom is pretty and this girl and Mimi have half-sister playdates. IDK.)2. The girl is Blossom's essence, given a physical form and kept by Demongo for Aku, probably as a minion or partner or something. This is how Aku could possess the dead Blossom; he has her soul and used his kawaii sorcerer powers to make a body for her.

I remember reading somewhere--either in this forum or on Deviantart--that Mimi resulted from a rape.

That wouldn't surprise me, but do you know where the page is for sure?

I know the GT page isn't serious, but it intrigues me for obvious reasons.

I'm conflicted. I can't tell if its some sick joke or an issue to take seriously.

Then of course there's the disembodied Demongo head, which probably means one of two things:1. The girl is Aku and Blossom's daughter, and Demongo is like her accompanying protector/guardian, what with being his master's greatest minion and all. Maybe Aku is raising her as a single parent and plans to fight Him and Mimi or something. (Or alternatively Aku and Him are bros that both think Blossom is pretty and this girl and Mimi have half-sister playdates. IDK.)2. The girl is Blossom's essence, given a physical form and kept by Demongo for Aku, probably as a minion or partner or something. This is how Aku could possess the dead Blossom; he has her soul and used his kawaii sorcerer powers to make a body for her.

Blood Lord wrote:That wouldn't surprise me, but do you know where the page is for sure?

Nah...I just tried to find it and couldn't. Maybe I imagined it or something. :/

Blood Lord wrote:I'm conflicted. I can't tell if its some sick joke or an issue to take seriously.

I reeeeally don't think this is serious. The concept art he posted for the character on his Deviantart page could very well have been him planning for this joke (making it seem really legit, like "oh yeah this has been coming for a while, it has nothing to do with April Fools"). Then there's the way he presented the new chapter itself on DA; why not just post the opening page there, or announce it (unless he wants to keep it ambiguous)?

Plus he does Blossom/Dexter...I really have problems believing this is for real. While Aku/Blossom seems like the kind of thing he'd like what with the lolis and tentacles and angst potential and all, he always seemed confused or amused by it, not necessarily interested in it. Certainly not enough to warrant basing an entire character on the pairing, anyway.

Above all, it's April Fools. I'm sure it's just a very elaborate prank, and it's all the more believable because people expect stuff like this from bleedman. If it's not a prank, then whatever because I'm gonna be laughing either way.

Blood Lord wrote:I'm interested how Deongo is still alive then, if he was destroyed by Aku. Perhaps its the same way that Him treated Jeff.

A lot of people think Aku just banished him to the Pit of Hate, because Demongo shows up in Fusion Fall alive and well. Although Demongo being a disembodied head like Jeff was in Him's possession would definitely be plausible too. Maybe his real punishment for his failure is being forced to tag along with the Blossom-looking kid as a floating head, doomed to be the comedy relief sidekick forever. :D

I have a few theories about this new page. But I think I'll wait a bit, and see if this is canon or not.So Blord, if this turns out to be fake, are you just going to delete the post we've made in this tread about it so far, or what?

Birdofterror wrote:Of course most of them were made by Beeare trying really hard to convey that "Of course Barasia is staying; they are all staying!"

So he was really trying hard to mess with everyone?

Well anyways, this is my theory.Awhile back we where talking about what could have happen to the immortal souls of the dead heroes.Well if Demongo is involved, then I think know where they went. Honestly I'd be okay with this idea, as long as Buttercup, Bubbles and maybe Raven, were all spared. I would really like to see these three take a more active role in the story than "mindless slave".

Havoc751 wrote:I have a few theories about this new page. But I think I'll wait a bit, and see if this is canon or not.So Blord, if this turns out to be fake, are you just going to delete the post we've made in this tread about it so far, or what?

Hmm? No, I won't be deleting posts for that. The only time I do delete is when some one double posts. I copy the message, delete the second one, and edit the first one.

It's engaging and gets out minds working. To me the worse case scenario of this page is going to be a warm up exercise for us for when real updates happen. Best case is that this comic is finally moving forward and will give us new information to expand upon.

So I wonder if Demongo has Blossom's soul in his collection. If so, how do you think Mimi would react if she saw this?

I also came up with two theories, as to why Minnie might be attracted to Jr.One reason could be do to the fact she's growing up, and she hasn't been around any other boy's her age, aside from her Brother. The other thing I came up with was the fact she's part Nergal. I mean, if memory serves, the Nergal species kinda has a weird obsession with companionship, so I have to wonder if this could somehow be related.

I'm sure there are possibilities that minnie has met others. Junior appears to have met other girls aside from Mimi. For example: The Girl from The Well, which I know nothing about, other than from a art page by Bleedman that shows she is literally "from the well".

Same thing. Psychology is the science of philosophy. You'll find that many of the major founders of psychology are philosophers. Many of the topics intermingle between the two, such as the topic of love, emotions, learning, memory, consciousness, etc. The only field of psychology that I find to have any solid ground worth standing on is neurology. And even that is a bit of a long shot in some situations.

Just to be clear, we were talking about why Minnie loves junior to a disturbing level, and I was confused on what's the difference between phsychology and phillosophy. Is that what's happening?

On more focused matters, some of seem to be slightly disgusted by SisterXBrother type of couples. Thus those that do, prefer the JuniorXMimi couple, while others prefer JuniorXMinnie. How different is it, when it's the same soul but different body? I guess thats how reincarnations work.

Spartan117 wrote:Just to be clear, we were talking about why Minnie loves junior to a disturbing level, and I was confused on what's the difference between phsychology and phillosophy. Is that what's happening?

Yeah, sure man.

Spartan117 wrote:On more focused matters, some of seem to be slightly disgusted by SisterXBrother type of couples.

Incest. Although that depends on how far they are willing to take it. Sex between the two would be considered incest, and there are genetic problems that happen when two people of similar genes have a child.

There is a slight trend in the fan base when it comes to this issue. Some people see it as fine because they think its cute and adorable. Honestly, nothing extreme will happen between the two. Jr is going to age, while Minnie is stuck in a limbo state of eternity like Mina was. That's the view of it.

Deeper into this, you are going to find a philosophical question of loving other people regardless of who they are, their age, and sex.

Spartan117 wrote: How different is it, when it's the same soul but different body? I guess thats how reincarnations work.

So, no. Minnie's current body is still her body. All they did was sowed it back together. Jr and Minnie still have the same gentic code and data. Should the two commence with sexual intercourse, Minnie isn't going to get pregnant, she's a zombie. Them mother fuckers be dead bro.

It is however known as necrophilia (Jr x Minnie would be incest-necrophilia), which is a type of fetish involving sex with the dead, and undead in fantasy cases.

Do we know if it really is parts of Minnie's old body? And further more, do we really know for sure if Minnie's body is "dead"? Because in most Frankenstein related fiction involved (which would apply in Grim Tales) it's possible to reanimate dead tissue, and the body will be able to move and think on its own. As long as it has electricity to power it. Well, not rellying on electricity alone, of course, it would require a near perfect repair and reassembly of human organs, and the white-blood cells of, what ever blood is used, needs to accept those organs. Basically, electricity isn't the only thing that keeps Minnie moving, but also the vital organs that the body constantly maintains.

Spartan117 wrote:And further more, do we really know for sure if Minnie's body is "dead"?

Define "dead". Absence of soul, then no, Minnie isn't dead. But the fact that her bodily functions are no longer operational, then she is "dead". Her body still movable and able to pick up sensory information, but nothing inside should be working anymore. The best way to describe her is that she is like Sally now, who would be a classification of a zombie/Frankenstein monster. The difference between the two would be original body parts, and soul, vs a collection of parts and the creation of a soul. Frankenstien was given life, as Minnie is brought back from death.

Spartan117 wrote:it would require a near perfect repair and reassembly of human organs, and the white-blood cells of, what ever blood is used, needs to accept those organs. Basically, electricity isn't the only thing that keeps Minnie moving, but also the vital organs that the body constantly maintains.

That's the funny thing, it doesn't. This is why she is close to a zombie then Frankenstein. Minnie never had "human" organs, they were all Nergal. I also want to point out that none of those organs are functioning, or they forgot Minnie's liver. She's grey, grey skin typically signifies death. We're her organs and everything operational again, and were she to actually be alive as a living person, her skin color would be back to normal.

Electricity would be the thing making her move, making all of us to move. More specifically, those electrical currents that cause movement and message transfer through out the body, are known as action potentials, and are needed in every communication between a body part and the nervous system. What they are is the electrical imbalance between positively charged ions, basically K+, Cl-, Na+, and Ca+. The two big players are potassium and sodium. What causes the action potential? Well, the list is extensive, and I have four or five chapters in my anatomy and physiology book that cover that. But the cause is that the cell becomes more negative and causes the opening of voltage-gated ion channels that cause a reaction in the cell.

The muscle cell, for example, once there is enough Na+ in the cell, and the electronegativity is about 20+, the sarcoplasmic reticulum opens, and releases Ca+ (calcium, btw), which removes the torpomyosin, causing the attachment points of the actin to be revealed and the myosin to reach up, attach, and pull the actin. The whole process causes the muscle to contract. http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9 ... fYM3MPni4A

So, would minnie's eye be the only functioning organ that her ragdoll body has(not to mention any other possible senses that she could still have (taste; the tongue is a muscle/ smell; does she even need a respiratory system? Like, if she doesn't have to breathe, can she still smell... idk/ yadadada)

the point is, does that one organ. Which is a nergal organ, capable of providing an expansion of functionality to minnie's vessle?

in lou of it being a ragdoll( and assuming it's hollow ), could the cellular construction of nergal appendages such as wings( to which minnie, was previously capable of constructing) or weapons, produce functioning organs to the template of a body minnie is currently functioning in?

In lou of her lack of "power" when she gave her right eye to Junior, could junior still have a sub connection to minnie's left eye since he is currently using her right eye's ocular functionality (i'm assuming of course)?

if so, could he provide the means to "power" the cellular construction of a complete functioning system of organs? (all of which would possess nergal asthetics to which I would think would appear if the ragdoll body was disected. I would like to think the sensory ability i'm assuming Minnie has is already in place and that she would prefer the ragdoll skin over black green glowy'ness... idk) If this were possible, could the fact the left eye of minnie's being attached to her soul( also i'm assuming) provide a origin point of the possible cellular extension to which then junior would not have to keep a conscious and/or sub-conscious tab on the constructed cellular system to which i would think would be under a naturally stabilized state and/or complete control of minnie?

i've forgot where i'm going with this and am too lazy to stop and back track due to the fact i have somewhere important to be... good day; (yes, i'll probably edit more in if i feel the need and/or want to)

You are forgiven for the ramble. This does seem like quite the wall to tackle, but I'll see if I can do.

YesterdaysLingo wrote:does she even need a respiratory system? Like, if she doesn't have to breathe, can she still smell... idk/ yadadada

Expanding on Blood Lord's theory that, due to her not actually having organs and in fact being completely Nergalified... or whatever you want to call it- she probably never had to breathe in the first place. Being torn apart and re-attached is probably just a minor nuisance to someone with Nergal powers. The greatest thing she lost in that ordeal was probably her eye, as it is one of the greatest things Nergals can have. (Apparently.) But she has another one so I'll take that as she's only half of what she once was- if that, but still very functional.

She seems... 'relatively' healthy considering the circumstances. I mean, who else could survive being torn into a hundred pieces?

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Birdofterror wrote:You are forgiven for the ramble. This does seem like quite the wall to tackle, but I'll see if I can do.

YesterdaysLingo wrote:does she even need a respiratory system? Like, if she doesn't have to breathe, can she still smell... idk/ yadadada

Expanding on Blood Lord's theory that, due to her not actually having organs and in fact being completely Nergalified... or whatever you want to call it- she probably never had to breathe in the first place. Being torn apart and re-attached is probably just a minor nuisance to someone with Nergal powers.

just pointing this out but if minnie was considered to have these "nergal powers" that of which would render being torn in half and refitting one's self as a mere nuisance... Why did she appear to be in a critical condition to which even with "her" nergal powers should would wind up dying; after the pumpkinator shredded her? Sure its she's in more than two pieces but shouldn't it scale up from nuisance render to a mere application of "slight effort"? She gave up her eye because she was in a state that not only would she not be able to save junior but herself as well. Note that zero was distracting the pumpkinator long enough to which she would have been able to reattach or construct her appendages (which i assume she can do since she can construct freak'n wings) if she had this said/level of nergal power....

Sorry, doing this all by phone....

Im sorry if it sounds like im ripping into you/it...That is not my intentionMerely pointing it out...

Well I'm exaggerating when I say 'minor nuisance.' Quite a bit I may add.

But what I meant was the fact that even torn to tiny bits she was still alive and conscious, even with the strength left to dig out her own eye and give it to Junior.

SURE she ended up dying, but that's not really what I'm trying to say here. She was very sturdy. It was only due to massive damage that she actually ended up dying, and it's due to that sturdiness that she was able to hold on long enough to pass her power to her brother and to even be saved in the first place.

That and science, but I digress.

She likely has little to no bodily functions, so a lot of things short of mutilation and decapitation will do her little to no harm. Even though she's stitched up it's likely her Nergal organ(s?) have regenerated, at least somewhat. Most of her expertise is in magical stuff, not so much physical stuff anyway. From what I see, with her breaking the mirror with her mind, she's still plenty fine in that department.

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I wonder why there hasn't been any mentions of an attempt from the overworld to kill Him. Because a post-apocalyptic wasteland that was organized by someone, would be the type of enviroment for someone to prepare to avenge his/her home, friends, and family. If most of the main characters want to fight Him right now, I sort of expect some characters from the overworld to show up for revenge. It would make some sense to me to expect at least one survivor that has the courage to fight Him like Jack, thanks to his magical sword, or even Bubbles due to her ability to go into a rage mode when provoked to far. Thats asuming if they're not all dead.

Well assuming that they aren't all dead is quite the assumption. The general opinion is that they are dead until deemed otherwise.

But beside the point, I would imagine the reason no-one has tried to overthrow any of the layers of Hell yet would simply be due to the great strength of its rulers. If you own one plane of Hell, you might find that controlling another is very difficult.

I mean, one is enough. Why try to maintain two? Not to mention the rulers of each of them could be argued to be the 'strongest,' so if one side tried to conquer the other, both sides could end up being destroyed.

So my answer to that possibility would be that the reason they haven't tried it would be because it would be way too hard to pull off with way too little payoff.

"It's such a fine line between clever and stupid."

The Chronometal Wars, a fan-fiction taking place in the PPGD Universe. Catastrophe is the only certainty.