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Comment by Whoisthiscook

Comment by heartlessnobody

I wonder how much Obliterum Ash from crafted gear when destroyed will give us. Because if it's just a little stock up on those mats. I think destroyed stuff might yield 2 or 3 prices. I hope this system is on a star like the other stuff

Comment by pmkaboo

can you get this only from destroying legion crafted gear or also from wod, or previous expansions, crafted gear?

Comment by Wh0sthere

I have seen items that can be upgraded 1/9 times currently on beta. Some thoughts have been that the star system on crafted gear increase ilvl and reduce mats. Others see it just reduces the materials. There is no tooltip to show how many "upgrades" are available. At 5 ilvl per upgrade, if no ilvl increase from stars, raid gear starting in the mid 800s., It will be worthwhile to see how high you can make crafted gear, to get a good idea before pouring tons of gold and time upgrading for possibly a marginal benefit.

Comment by Sacridfire

Crafted gear appears to cap out at 850 on the beta at the time of this post.

Edit: Obliterating Chest and Leg armor yields the most Obliterum Ash per Blood of Sargeras

Comment by Kakapenka

Obliterated several Demonsteel crafts and got a range of 23-32 Obliterum Ash for the low blood cost (wrists/boots). I got 80+ for a Demonsteel Breastplate, but it requires additional mats that might prove expensive. I highly doubt that high level crafts are going to be the main source of obliterum, given they all require gated bop mats to craft. I presume they can be obliterated so crafters still get something useful instead of a Leylight Shard.

After about 60 Leystone crafts obliterated I got 8-14 per piece, average 11 Obliterum Ash. As it was pointed below it does not matter what leystone craft you obliterate, drops are the identical, if you are going to spam craft go for the cheapest.

Those numbers might be off and can be subject to change before they hit live, I've put them to give people a general idea howmuch obliterum they can expect to get from the only available source (so far). We will have a better idea once wowhead works it's magic on a huge sample size.

In other news Obliterum is now not BoP (this might change)

tl;dr:PREPARE YOUR CREDIT CARDS BOYS AND GIRLS, WE ARE GOING FULL PAY2WIN IN LEGION.

Comment by jjanchan

The higher the item level (or in general the more rare) of an item, the more ash it will produce

This can vary between 1 and 20+ ash per item.

Some crafted items other than gear can be obliterated, including Flasks and Potions

You can find out what can and cannot be obliterated by opening up the obliterum forge and mousing over items (either in your inventory, or in your crafting window before you craft it)You can obliterate crafted items that are soulbound to you

Given this it's reasonable to extrapolate that the ilvl of the item doesn't give greater ash; you get more ash based on the number of base leather/scale that goes into it.

Given that the crafted items use more stormscale and and other materials that are rare, and it is more scarse to come across based on numbers of mobs that produce it, your best bang for your buck are the lower level leather items (which take only stonehide leather) preferably those that use significant numbers of stonehide (see ratios). If the ratios hold true, then

Dreadleather gloves (250 stonehide) should be your best return, but as of this typing I did not have enough mats to test this theory. ETA: Dreadleather gloves give 26 ash.

There was no noted increase in ash between a purple and blue item.

**to get the ratio for Gravenscale Armbands I added stonehide leather and stonescale together. 250+80=330/27=12.2)

Comment by projecteulogy

I thought Blizzard was trying to make us not have alts. This quest is basically: Have alts or Gold lmao

Comment by Lostinwoods

Comment by Dahork

This has been nerfed from around 7 ash/each on 715-785 items to 2-3 ash/each.

Just obliterated 75 785 items and got 165ash.

Comment by madania

Is there any benefit to being able to craft Obliterum if you are not a tailor, leatherworker, or blacksmith? Will the Obliterum I craft be soulbound or can I sell it on the AH? If soulbound, can I still at least use it to upgrade gear items of others via the trade window in the same fashion enchanters can enchant soulbound players items?

Comment by Warrickale

Ok so I decided to do some Hard hard number gathering. So far the only blues worth buying for Obliteration have been the 815 leather crafted waist item. But here are the numbers I've gathered so far.

Comment by BurnGuard

Is it worth getting the obliterum forge for characters that don't have gearcrafting professions? My mage is a herbalist&alchemist

Comment by siubosn

Does anyone have knowledge on where or how to get Obliterum? What is it crafted from? Which profession etc.?TY

Comment by Kurasu

For enchanters who are wondering, scrolls of enchantment do *NOT* count as things that you can obliterate. So no throwing a cheap enchantment on a scroll and using it to create dust for yourself.

Comment by captainfox

CONFIRMED! You CAN obliterate potions! It is WAY less efficient than obliterating gear, however. I tested different potions: Ancient Healing Potion (x1 Obliterum Ash) , Unbending Potion (x1 Obliterum Ash) , Flask of Ten Thousand Scars (x4 Obliterum Ash) So it seams potions give you just one and flasks can give you +/- 4

EDIT: three pieces of 735 cloth gear gave me 10 Obliterum Ash (4-4-2)

Comment by NavyPheonix

So can someone explain to me the point of leveling crafted gear to 850 if you can simply get 860s and better from world quests and mythics? This method of gaining Item Levels seems ridiculously expensive compared to simply consistently doing WQ/'keystones/raids for gear upgrades. Even if you simply had one piece of gear you cannot find an upgrade for, is it really worth 24.5k+ gold for a single 850 item? Especially when you can get 840 from class hall items? At that point you are paying exorbitant amounts of gold for 10 item levels on one piece of gear.

Clearly I'm missing something or there's something I don't know about this system, because to me there's arguably no reason for it to exist other than selling pieces to gullible people for massive profit.

Comment by Ssateneth

Can't seem to get a clear answer on this.

Can I use Obliterum to upgrade crafted relics?

Comment by ExplodingPhone

Just as an FYI, Items upgraded with Obliterum will not have increased stats to go with the increased Item Level.

I definitely did not discover this while using 4 Obliterum on a lower level piece of gear to cheat the gear score.

Comment by Ryhma

Yo guys! i don't have the "Fire!" quest on my map nor on the spot where it suppose to b. Is there any questline before this one that hangs together or am i just not eligable for the quest? Im a 110 Fury warrior with enchanting and Alchemy as proffs. Kinda want the fel furnace, that's cause im asking :P

I have not done all the chapters in legion when i was questing if that might be the case, let me know!

//R

Comment by palidinsatan

Since Obliterum kinda fell by the way side it's be great if Blizz could make it usable on M+ gear.Ex: M+2>+3>+4 (stop) then M+5>+6>+7 and so on so grinding gear and depending on good groups wouldn't be such a grind.

Comment by Derannimer

This might be a dumb question, but is there some limit as to which crafted items you can upgrade? It's not letting me use my Obliterum on my Silkweave Slippers or my Skystone Pendant… WHY?

Comment by lalkzo

Increases the item level of crafted armor up to 865 as of patch 7.1.5.

Comment by lalkzo

Increases the item level of crafted armor up to 865, instead of 855 as of patch 7.1.5.

Comment by Viserate

They seriously nerfed the number of ash you get from each obliterate. I obliterated Warhide footpads upto ilvl 775 and averaged 3 per round. That means I'd basically have to obliterate 33 pairs of boots for one obliterum. This is not anywhere near ok, it's pretty much bad design. I am getting the same average for JC items. So, I hope this isn't working as intended.

Comment by Tequima

If you're creating potions just to get L3 on the alchemy potions (OK, yes, I'm a completionist!) then you can speed up the obliterating using this macro:

/run for bag = 0,4,1 do for slot = 1, GetContainerNumSlots(bag), 1 do local name = GetContainerItemLink(bag,slot); if name and string.find(name,"Ancient Rejuvenation Potion") then UseContainerItem(bag,slot) end end end/script CloseLoot()

Replace Ancient Rejuvenation Potion with the name of the potion you are spam crafting. As of 7.1 this is marginally useful for fast-tracking alts iLevel (if a VERY expensive way of doing it given the low amount of ash looted: 1-2 per potion), particularly on Darkmoon Faire trinkets.

Drag the macro to the toolbar & keybind. You'll still have to click the Obliterate button (protected function on the Blizzard UI for reasons known only to them).

The CloseLoot will prevent the "Internal Error" message from the manual alternative: right click on the item in your back, click Obliterate and ignore the loot box.

Comment by Gatzby88

As of patch 7.2, applying these on the previously crafted item level 815s will now bump it up to item level 840(Obliterum: 1/8). Then it will resume its 5 level increments until item level 875(Obliterum: 8/8).

Comment by Peather

Comment by CappuccinaDH

Item level increase is 1 (not 5). I suppose they should have changed the tooltip after the level squeeze.

Comment by jinkusu121

So I just tried to use this on a Prophetic Band of the Quickblade ring (i165 base) and despite the tooltip saying it increase the ilvl by TWO with dramatic increases below i168 it actually only increased by ONE ilvl. That is, I now have an i166 ring. Put this stuff right in the dumpster and set it on fire.