If he's healthy, I think they can consider it, and shut him down if it's not working out or if there are concerns about his health. That's the advantage of no longer having to set Playoff rosters with no inactive list. As far his injury is concerned, bones tend to heal stronger, but soft tissue damage is always a bigger concern. It'll probably be a moot point as I figure he won't be returning until next season anyway, but if he is healthy and available, he could be an ace up their sleeve.

I heard CryoTherapy is great for the soft tissue, I've been looking into it myself for my body because its been really banged up. It's not FDA approved, but a lot of beneficial treatments out there are not FDA approved.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

I love Stevens, but I am not a fan of how little Tatum saw the floor in the first half. When on the floor, he hasnt been involved at all. Tatum probably cared a little about really showing up this game vs Lonzo Ball on national TV.

Maybe he will get more minutes and looks in the second half.

Second quarter the defense kind of fell apart, we were getting backdoored and not being as aggressive.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

You guys have a nice, dynamic team assembled in Boston. A good mix of young guys who really play with an edge and fit right in with the Boston mentality and a great player in Irving (even though he's probably one of the weirdest players off the court). Tatum & Brown are super young, gifted wing players who will have awesome careers hopefully.

NovU wrote:I think Celtics' shit fluke eventually will run out of luck. All rotation players are overachieving at the moment. This just is not sustainable.

Expect a mere .500 ball club by the season end at the very best.

Wait... you think that at best the Celtics will go 29-39 the rest of the season, when they play mostly Eastern Conference teams??? You have to be kidding me...

The players are playing well in a good system, and they will continue to do so. How many games have you actually watched? I've missed one all season. We are excelling defensively and on the boards, that's hustle and Brad switching up schemes. Because of how often he switches things up and adjusts, a lot of this is sustainable. Brown and Tatum can guard positions 1 through 5, they are not just going to be suddenly incapable after the win streak ends.

I would say 50-55 wins is realistic for this season. .500 ball club? I really don't think you watch any basketball sometimes NovU.

And if you are attempting to say they will be playing like a .500 ball club, that is also straight crazy as well. The Celtics have a chance to make a deep run this season, and Stevens has a great chance at coach of the year.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

Good bye, we may talk again in another life time. Till then, farewell son.

Holy shit, you are this dumb.

You commented on a basketball forum that the Celtics by season end will be a .500 ball club, someone contests that for obvious reasons, and you call the person obsessed? I would have commented with the same type of material if it was someone else who said that.

Watch more basketball and become more educated, with every comment you prove that you have no clue what you are talking about. It's getting old fast.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

Son, this is the last time I will ever respond to your dumb rant. You are the proven moron here, I been getting messages left and right from other members not to feed a stupid troll that you are. I will just go ahead and do that now by foe listing you.

Your obsession with me at this moment is beyond understanding. You can't even write a single paragraph without "how many games have you watched" or "I know more than you" attitude. This moronic/asshole behaviour of yours got old real quick.

Nothing personal but I'd rather not deal with you anymore. Neither of us enjoys it, nor should any other forum member get stressed over our crossing path either. Hope you see this through but doubt it due to puny brain of yours. Gbye young grasshopper.

Obsessed? Again ignoring the fact that I would have responded with the same type of response to somebody else who said the same. Convenient to leave that out, huh?

I can only assume you don't watch much basketball with statements like the Celtics will be a mere .500 ball club by the end of the season. Asking if you watch teams play is perfectly relevant in a basketball forum. It's easy to assume that you don't watch much basketball.

Trolling? You have to be trolling with some of the nonsense you say. You are trolling or just looking for someone to contest you, that's the only logical explanation.

And if people want to pm you and tell you I am a troll, they should probably just say it on here or PM me. And, if they are calling ME the troll in this (with so much dumb shit that you say) I could care less what they say about me, because obviously their judgement is really bad, and they probably don't know much about basketball either.

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"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

Dee, i have found its best to not talk to Novu. the guy has a hard on for hating the celtics. good for him. he also is like 15 tops and tries calling everyone kid. i mean i hope he is 15 tops otherwise he is mentally handicapped and then i just feel bad for him

Sauru wrote:Dee, i have found its best to not talk to Novu. the guy has a hard on for hating the celtics. good for him. he also is like 15 tops and tries calling everyone kid. i mean i hope he is 15 tops otherwise he is mentally handicapped and then i just feel bad for him

He also has a hard on for making shit up, backpedaling, making more shit up, and not admitting when he is wrong after he's caught making shit up.

He also gets a hard on for playing favorites, being biased as to who he agrees with and who he doesnt.

He's a mess. Seriously a big mess. I didn't start the name calling until just recently, but he just kept going with his bullshit and the situation called for it. I mean, damn... it's really unbelievable.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

Kyrie played bad overall but made good aggressive plays down the stretch, the kind of stuff that separates the great ones from the good ones. Tatum very composed, Jaylen Brown has amazing hustle and was simply spectacular on both ends like Dee said.

Probably the most enjoyable game of NBA basketball I've watched in quite some time, glad I tuned in.

It was a grind it out game, high defensive intensity on both sides. I'm watching the Suns and Rockets play right now (Rockets had 90 points at the half), it's a boring game. No defense is really being played... night and day compared to the Celtics/Warriors game.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

His aggressiveness was really a factor down the stretch, although I don't think the refs made the right call on his late game drive. There was no obvious contact and he just went down because of his momentum. You should not call that to seal the game. Cs played very well though, Brown is a beast.

The way to beat the Warriors is not only to outhustle them, but to get under the shooters at all costs.

Thompson and Curry couldn't get anything going because of Boston's defensive communication. Celtics were literally under Curry and Thompson on almost every shot. If we have a better shooting first half (We shot 30%!), who knows what would have happened. Maybe we would have been up by a bit even at the end of the first half.

Green was also shut down because of our length. It was forcing him to make bad passes, he didn't look comfortable at all.

I liked what Stevens did to combat certain lineups that the Warriors had out on the court. He stifled Looney (who has been solid for GS this season) with length and athleticism as opposed to going with Baynes at the 5. He only played 5 minutes and had an empty stat line because of it. Brown blocking Durant on a jumpshot was pretty cool to see.

In regards to the Irving drive, we would have scored on the putback anyway. Not only that, if you watch the replay, he gets hit in the face like 3 times after he releases the ball. They call fouls on 3's all the time AFTER the player released the ball because of contact, the only difference is this was on a layup. But either way, it was two points.

The Celtics took more free throws because they were being more aggressive.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

Dee4Three wrote:Exactly, even the commentators mentioned it. The Celtics love dragging the game through the mud, they did just that.

Imagine how rough Boston would be if Heyward didn't get hurt. But I still think they'll give Cleveland fits come May & June (if they're healthy). Cavs are old and poor defensively. We'll see how they play together when Isaiah gets back.

Sauru wrote:i have no issues with lue other than he is not a championship level coach. sadly that seems to be exactly what lebron wants.

so you could say the same then about all of the East? lue is due some credit for coaching the team that won the finals against the best team ever to not win a finals. or was it really kerr's fault??

i honestly don't know what makes a "good" coach anyway. player talent has to play a big role and as well as the staff he surrounds himself with. but after that what else? is lue a good coach because GSW couldn't counter the irving/lebron pick and roll? or getting mahimi or whatever slow big to switch on lebron? or maybe he's a bad coach because in last year's finals, he said screw it and unsuccessfully tried to outscore the Warriors in the elimination game?

Jeffx wrote:Imagine how rough Boston would be if Heyward didn't get hurt.

Imho that wouldn't have allowed rest of Celtics players to overachieve as there would be less possession to share amongst the team and due to different style of playing they would have to play to fit Gordon's strength as a score/playmaker. Similar to the reason why the Knicks did not improve upon arrival of Carmelo when there was Stoudemire and Cos that were playing good.

Looking at the stats, this hype is only setting themselves nicely for a failure when the time calls for it. You just have too many guys overachieving. When rotation requires to be tightened and ball rotates to their stars in eagerness for them to do something, it's still Horford and Irving. Countering that will be easy.

Sauru wrote:i have no issues with lue other than he is not a championship level coach. sadly that seems to be exactly what lebron wants.

so you could say the same then about all of the East? lue is due some credit for coaching the team that won the finals against the best team ever to not win a finals. or was it really kerr's fault??

i honestly don't know what makes a "good" coach anyway. player talent has to play a big role and as well as the staff he surrounds himself with. but after that what else? is lue a good coach because GSW couldn't counter the irving/lebron pick and roll? or getting mahimi or whatever slow big to switch on lebron? or maybe he's a bad coach because in last year's finals, he said screw it and unsuccessfully tried to outscore the Warriors in the elimination game?

what you are saying is coaching has no effect on the game and its 100% on the players?

Sauru wrote:i have no issues with lue other than he is not a championship level coach. sadly that seems to be exactly what lebron wants.

so you could say the same then about all of the East? lue is due some credit for coaching the team that won the finals against the best team ever to not win a finals. or was it really kerr's fault??

i honestly don't know what makes a "good" coach anyway. player talent has to play a big role and as well as the staff he surrounds himself with. but after that what else? is lue a good coach because GSW couldn't counter the irving/lebron pick and roll? or getting mahimi or whatever slow big to switch on lebron? or maybe he's a bad coach because in last year's finals, he said screw it and unsuccessfully tried to outscore the Warriors in the elimination game?

what you are saying is coaching has no effect on the game and its 100% on the players?

Coaching matters for many reasons. Developing your players (being the right influence), making sure your players are disciplined during practice, running and come up with the appropriate plays in practice, and making sure they are called and executed in games, calling timeouts at appropriate times in order to attempt to stop a run, or to just gather the troops, or for many different situational reasons, putting the right players on the floor at the right times depending on who the other team has out on the floor, motivating your players, disciplining your players at the right time during the game (yanking them if needed), etc etc.

Coaching makes a huge difference. Look at what coach Pop has done with his Spurs team this year without Leonard and Parker. They are 10-6, you think any coach would have that team at 10-6?

Brad Stevens connects with his players, he is well known for being a good situational coach, good with xs and os, etc.

It absolutely matters.

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"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

man just leave him alone. the kid is gonna sit in here talking shit until he is right "because everyone knows this pace wont hold" and then claim how he "was right" and "called it". i dont think he actually a fan of anyone, he is one of those people who watch sports for people to lose. you know the type, dudes who could less about the sox but hate the yankees. people who cant name 5 people from the all star team but insist lebron is like the 70th best player of all time because he lost in the finals. people who dont actually care about sports and rooting for a team but only want to watch other teams lose. seriously just pretend he does not exist and save your self some grey hairs

Sauru wrote:man just leave him alone. the kid is gonna sit in here talking shit until he is right "because everyone knows this pace wont hold" and then claim how he "was right" and "called it". i dont think he actually a fan of anyone, he is one of those people who watch sports for people to lose. you know the type, dudes who could less about the sox but hate the yankees. people who cant name 5 people from the all star team but insist lebron is like the 70th best player of all time because he lost in the finals. people who dont actually care about sports and rooting for a team but only want to watch other teams lose. seriously just pretend he does not exist and save your self some grey hairs

He deserves to be called out on blatant lies and trash. The stuff he says is so ridiculous, I literally don't think he watches basketball. He just knows some names (like Abdur- RAHEEM)...

It's not just about the Celtics, it's basketball in general. I am calling him out in the other threads as well. The shit he pulls in here stinks.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

Sauru wrote:man just leave him alone. the kid is gonna sit in here talking shit until he is right "because everyone knows this pace wont hold" and then claim how he "was right" and "called it". i dont think he actually a fan of anyone, he is one of those people who watch sports for people to lose. you know the type, dudes who could less about the sox but hate the yankees. people who cant name 5 people from the all star team but insist lebron is like the 70th best player of all time because he lost in the finals. people who dont actually care about sports and rooting for a team but only want to watch other teams lose. seriously just pretend he does not exist and save your self some grey hairs

He deserves to be called out on blatant lies and trash. The stuff he says is so ridiculous, I literally don't think he watches basketball. He just knows some names (like Abdur- RAHEEM)...

It's not just about the Celtics, it's basketball in general. I am calling him out in the other threads as well. The shit he pulls in here stinks.

yeah i used to be there too. i had to learn to ignore him. you know like the guy who tries to wash your windshield with shit paper? that Novu to me

I don't take sides based on who is talking, I don't make up shit and backtrack when caught, etc. I've agreed with people I've debated with on here, even when some of the debates got heated.

His comments about basketball show pure ignorance, pure lack of knowledge about the NBA and the sport in general. His comments about players are so simple minded that I might think he is just making shit up to start trouble, or that the only thing he knows about basketball are based off of what he reads on the Internet, or maybe a collection of basketball cards.

I'll continue to call out stupid things he says.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

Sauru, you in your shallow mind should realize know I don't hate particularly the Celtics, in fact I was rather a fan of them with Isaiah playing well. In fact my criticism this time around is very valid. Gordon's injury offered opportunities for the team, and they took full advantage of it.

Nice to see you have a nice romance going on there though, bud. Can't read half of it but should be a better love story than twighlight saga. lolz

NovU wrote:Sauru, you in your shallow mind should realize know I don't hate particularly the Celtics, in fact I was rather a fan of them with Isaiah playing well. In fact my criticism this time around is very valid. Gordon's injury offered opportunities for the team, and they took full advantage of it.

Nice to see you have a nice romance going on there though, bud. Can't read half of it but should be a better love story than twighlight saga. lolz

Haywards injury gave the Celtics players opportunities, they took advantage of them (showing what they really have in Brown and Tatum, and others) and that somehow makes them a mere .500 ball club, or only able to rely on Horford and Irving in big moments.... that makes total sense.

Another flurry of stupid shit from NovU that makes no sense.

Romance? Another Jr High comment that makes me question your age again.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird