I'd be more worried about the non-GMO children than those who are modified to be enhanced. They're the ones who would likely suffer... And at some point everyone would feel pressured into adjusting their kids traits and abilities to keep up with the rest of society.

..So I don't think it can truly be 'voluntary' any more than capitalism is voluntary.

________deleted wrote at February 26, 2018 at 4:23 PM
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But those wouldn't be anarcho-transhumanists, they'd be capitalist-imperialists. A big reason to support anarcho-transhumanism is to provide a non-oppressive alternative to capitalist-imperialist-transhumanism.

[deleted] wrote at February 26, 2018 at 8:23 PM
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You don't disagree with my ideology because you're too fucking dense to know what it is. And you're not pointing out my privilege because I'm fairly certain you don't understand that either. What I have seen however is you act in wildly toxic and abusive ways towards not only myself but others as well. You ignoring the boundary I just set to take another shot at me is further proof of you being an absolutely garbage human being. You are not my comrade, not anyone else's. So in short. Go fuck yourself, absolutely completely, unequivocally, go fuck yourself you arrogant petty little shit.

[deleted] wrote at February 26, 2018 at 4:11 PM
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________deleted wrote at February 26, 2018 at 4:45 PM
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You just disproved your own point. If us communists can own iphones under capitalism and still be communists, then anarcho-transhumanists can modify themselves under capitalist-transhumanism and still be anarcho-transhumanists. As long as you support the equal distribution of technology, then you still qualify as an anarcho-transhumanist. Capitalism giving you more than others because you were born middle class in the West doesn't change that.

What repurcussions? Getting picked last for baseball? If that's really a big deal then just outlaw discrimination. But there are plenty of kids getting picked last for baseball already, this would mean less of us would suffer that shame. It brings more of us into equal footing and paves the road to true equality. Think about it.

amongstclouds wrote at February 26, 2018 at 3:48 PM
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Yeah, I've thought about this quite a lot and you're way too optimistic about dealing with the divide this would create -- not to mention 'outlawing discrimination' is a LOT easier said than done. Also, who get's to enforce these laws? The genetically modified?

I also find it rather gross you think the only problem this would cause is 'being picked last for baseball'. Way to underplay something very important.

Widening the gap between the weak and the powerful even further isn't going to create equality. And 'outlawing' discrimination is easier said than done. Social dynamics are a lot more complicated than that.

________deleted wrote at February 26, 2018 at 4:21 PM
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Dumai wrote at February 26, 2018 at 5:10 PM
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i don't consider defasher's issues with eugenics to be the problem with anarcho-transhumanism - it certainly is an issue but even if your egalitarian transhumanist utopia were possible it would still be fucking terrifying to me - but maybe consider that the bourgeois industrialists of the 19th century would have said exactly the same thing about the technological developments of their day and realise the flaw in your argument that technology is inherently emancipatory