C&D Drives A 2013 MKZ

The last Lincoln car I liked was the LS. At least the Navigator is still nice.
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The glass roof alone must weigh around 200 lbs. I'd be curious to see what it weighs without it. The 2.0T fwd model Autoweek drove weighed 3700 lbs. The 3.7 motor weighs 55 lbs more than the 2.0T motor.

I've heard somewhere that the MKZ's turn signals are so bright, you can substitute them for high-beams. The signals make the dead of night look like as if it were broad daylight. If I see one of these things on the road, I ought to sue Lincoln for literally putting the sun in the MKZ's turn signals. I think this feature alone justifies the $50,000 price tag.

It's so comical to see the blatant double standards, epic fails, and extreme hypocrisy from the domestic cheerleaders on here.

Lord, if I were only as lifeless as many of you all are, and I felt like devoting the time to finding or recalling the dozens upon dozens of threads on here, where you all were spelling doom and gloom for Toyota/Lexus, because ONE negative article was written about a Toyota/Lexus vehicle. In fact, the last time I care to recall this happening, was rather recently in some 2013 Toyota Avalon thread, where there was one negative review of the car, despite the fact that the majority of other reviews I've seen have praised the vehicle. I'm surprised you all didn't crash the MT servers, with all of your incessant posts on how you all just NEW that the new Avalon was a POS, based on that ONE review. Now that the tables are turned, you all are crying foul and saying that "one article" doesn't matter.

PATHETIC! As I said when the first renderings came out ... spy shots were leaked ... and the official vehicle was unveiled ... the MKZ is an ugly azz POS, subpar, and will not be stealing sales or causing sleepless nights for any of its competitors, especially Toyota. This article proves it. No one's paying premium entry-level luxury prices for a watered-down, uglier, mainstream premium version of the Fusion. Done and done!
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Speedbird:It's so comical to see the blatant double standards, epic fails, and extreme hypocrisy from the domestic cheerleaders on here.

Lord, if I were only as lifeless as many of you all are, and I felt like devoting the time to finding or recalling the dozens upon dozens of threads on here, where you all were spelling doom and gloom for Toyota/Lexus, because ONE negative article was written about a Toyota/Lexus vehicle. In fact, the last time I care to recall this happening, was rather recently in some 2013 Toyota Avalon thread, where there was one negative review of the car, despite the fact that the majority of other reviews I've seen have praised the vehicle. I'm surprised you all didn't crash the MT servers, with all of your incessant posts on how you all just NEW that the new Avalon was a POS, based on that ONE review. Now that the tables are turned, you all are crying foul and saying that "one article" doesn't matter.

PATHETIC! As I said when the first renderings came out ... spy shots were leaked ... and the official vehicle was unveiled ... the MKZ is an ugly azz POS, subpar, and will not be stealing sales or causing sleepless nights for any of its competitors, especially Toyota. This article proves it. No one's paying premium entry-level luxury prices for a watered-down, uglier, mainstream premium version of the Fusion. Done and done!

Stop being a drama queen. The Avalon is a POS because it has a fish face. That alone determines how substandard a car is. Only Ford and Lincoln are allowed to make their cars resemble sea creatures and get away with it. And not because they might look good, but because of they are the preferred brands of most MT users. Plus, does the Avalon have turn signals as bright as the MKZ's? Does the Avalon's center console resemble a suspension bridge like the MKZ's does? Can you see the sky through the Avalon's roof? No? Should've thought so. POS.

The reason for C/Ds remarks on the MKZ is because This was suposed to be the Car to save The Lincoln Brand....it will be VERY funny if the next Chrysler 200 outshines this new MKZ...yea it probably wont have 300+hp but "HP" doesnt make a near Luxury sedan.
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Speedbird:It's so comical to see the blatant double standards, epic fails, and extreme hypocrisy from the domestic cheerleaders on here.

Lord, if I were only as lifeless as many of you all are, and I felt like devoting the time to finding or recalling the dozens upon dozens of threads on here, where you all were spelling doom and gloom for Toyota/Lexus, because ONE negative article was written about a Toyota/Lexus vehicle. In fact, the last time I care to recall this happening, was rather recently in some 2013 Toyota Avalon thread, where there was one negative review of the car, despite the fact that the majority of other reviews I've seen have praised the vehicle. I'm surprised you all didn't crash the MT servers, with all of your incessant posts on how you all just NEW that the new Avalon was a POS, based on that ONE review. Now that the tables are turned, you all are crying foul and saying that "one article" doesn't matter.

PATHETIC! As I said when the first renderings came out ... spy shots were leaked ... and the official vehicle was unveiled ... the MKZ is an ugly azz POS, subpar, and will not be stealing sales or causing sleepless nights for any of its competitors, especially Toyota. This article proves it. No one's paying premium entry-level luxury prices for a watered-down, uglier, mainstream premium version of the Fusion. Done and done!

MunaH:Stop being a drama queen. The Avalon is a POS because it has a fish face. That alone determines how substandard a car is. Only Ford and Lincoln are allowed to make their cars resemble sea creatures and get away with it. And not because they might look good, but because of they are the preferred brands of most MT users. Plus, does the Avalon have turn signals as bright as the MKZ's? Does the Avalon's center console resemble a suspension bridge like the MKZ's does? Can you see the sky through the Avalon's roof? No? Should've thought so. POS.

Wafflez:The glass roof alone must weigh around 200 lbs. I'd be curious to see what it weighs without it. The 2.0T fwd model Autoweek drove weighed 3700 lbs. The 3.7 motor weighs 55 lbs more than the 2.0T motor.

AWD +200lbGlass roof +200lbV6 +50lb

Since this car weighs about 450lb more than the one Autoweek drove, it's pretty consistent.
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If the MKZ can't go on sporty performance (keep in mind this isn't a 5 Series or CTS), they can definitely go on styling and technology (which will equate to sales). If the ES can do it, the MKZ can do it!

I was hoping for better, but I kind of expected this after driving the Fusion. The chassis is very good for a $30K midsize, but not good enough to take on serious luxury cars like the 5-Series or GS.

Calling it a POS is completely ridiculous though. It does have a lot of good things about it, the interior looks pretty nice, the powertrain is solid, and the chassis isn't terrible (we're not exactly talking about a Town Car or DTS here). The price seems a little ambitious, but drop the glass roof and AWD and it's right in line with a loaded up ES350.
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You can have an opinion, just be prepared to be relentlessly mocked for it.

THE_atvman:I was hoping for better, but I kind of expected this after driving the Fusion. The chassis is very good for a $30K midsize, but not good enough to take on serious luxury cars like the 5-Series or GS.

Calling it a POS is completely ridiculous though. It does have a lot of good things about it, the interior looks pretty nice, the powertrain is solid, and the chassis isn't terrible (we're not exactly talking about a Town Car or DTS here). The price seems a little ambitious, but drop the glass roof and AWD and it's right in line with a loaded up ES350.

I am surprised they didn't pan MyLincoln Touch of all things. I was sure that if there was anything to complain about with this car that would have been it.

C&D recently tested a 2012 TL SH-AWD and when you stack it up against the Lincoln, the Lincoln is about on par with it with a significantly inferior AWD system in terms of performance.

I don't think the MKZ raised the bar in this class and honestly it's pretty hard to. This class already has pretty exceptional entries in the LaCrosse and TL. I think it's on-par with the LaCrosse and TL, not necessarily better, but it certainly didn't take a step back like the new ES. This MKZ is MILES better than the car it replaces. It's a good step in the right direction.