Tuesday, October 31, 2006

Shootout on the West Side

Evidently, OCD or an attached unit interrupted some gangbangers on the way to a hit. A gun battle ensued and two bad guys are dead along with a third wounded. Hopefully, he dies too. A cop was wounded in the hand and our wishes go out to him for a speedy recovery. We pray he doesn't lose too much meat or mobility in his hand and can be on the street again shortly.

Good job all around.

UPDATE (just prior to publication): Channel 7 is reporting that the officer lost his middle finger as a result of this shooting. No word on whether it was his gun hand or non gun hand, but again, our thoughts and prayers go out to him. We've known at least 3 nine-fingered coppers in our careers, so hopefully we won't be missing this officer from the streets for too long.

95 Comments:

Was this around Belmont/Elston around 9:45pm? Please let me know, because I work around there and walk late @ night to the Blue Line. I saw a Paddy Wagon, several marked/unmarked cars tonight around there...

God bless that their ok I was working CTA special at the time it happened we where 4blocks from the shooting but because of the inepiteid of the dispacther they never gave out a location over city 1 .....we are facing a losing battle when even the dispatchers won't silence the city wide to see whats going on

I have been saying this for a while. Today's events are all the more reason we need REAL firepower in the squadcar. Supt. Cline, please give us a fighting chance, we need those rifles.

Luckily, no coppers lost their life today. SWAT is nice and they serve their role, however, we all know they cant be everywhere when a rifle is needed. We are seeing alot more .223 casings at these ghetto shootings.

I would GLADLY pay for ALL expenses associated with the purchase and training for an "equalizing" weapon that the department would authorize for "on-duty" carry, secured in the beat car. It would be completely optional and voluntary (just like an auxilary weapon), and it would start in PATROL!!!

I hope that the injured officer recovers quickly. Thank goodness no other officers are hurt. Can you believe that animal's (the worthless asshole that survived) family tried to start some shit at the hospital. Let me guess the police planted that AK and another pistol on them. I bet the family was attempting to get his link card to use that last time. Don't forget these are probably the animals that shot that old lady, that mexican worker and more unintended targets.

I cannot wait for the news tomorrow when momma pulls out his kindergarden graduation picture and says he was thinking of studying to become a doctor, a lawyer or broker world peace. Perhaps cure AIDS, povery and famine as well.

The ABC-7 piece was hilarious with the families hootin and hollerin at the hospital. Even if the city pays all three families, its still worth it.

If only we all got to carry the AR-15's that the SORT cars have!

Sorry to hear about the P.O. losing a finger. However, it could have been worse. Hopefully the brass will give him a cherry spot to ride out the rest of his career.

This sort of thing needs to happen more, remind the pieces of shit they lose when they shoot at us.

Take a moment today to thank God, it wasn't you involved and the potential for this scenerio today to accelerate to a more tragic ending was avoided. Godspeed the recovery of the wounded officer. May God and His heavens continue to help on on his path in life.

The funeral was for the mother of the commissoner of the airport. So you figure it out...Shit like this should be looked into, its a pain in the ass just to get one car for a funeral.. and they were given half a watch. Retired police men die all the time and they don't even get that kind of send off, sorry excuse for city politics and a waste of money and manpower...

I thought Ak-47's were banned in Chicago, I know the police can't own one just check the general orders. Wow how did these guys get one? The next thing they are going to do is disarm us and give us all non lethal weapons like a taser or a silly string gun. Do you really think these politicians care that we are out gunned. I know the brass cares but politics win out and always will.

The injured Officer is outstanding in everyway. He remained in good spirits and took the injury in stride. The SWAT Sort car did an excellent job along with the on scene gang intelligence officers. Everyone, including most of the bosses, came together well and handled a difficult situation. The gang intel officers had new Bernelli tactical shotguns and the sort guys were utilizing M4s. Both weapons were used to their full capacity very appropriately. There were a few glory hounds who acted out of place, but that was on a very limited basis. All and all it was a well planned investigation that ended in victory for the CPD. Now let's support the injured Officer and his family, and ensure the living offender rots in prison!

Thats the way I see it f**k these animals, it will come out what these assholes really were going to do just be patient boys and girls. And yes I have first hand knowledge. Also it was his index finger non shooting hand, thank god. He is a great guy and deserves a merit spot I hope.

city officials like to compare chicago with NY & LA and both those cities arm oficers with shotguns/rifles.it will take a lawsuit....ofc. family or cit. who might have been saved if only police had a suitable and timely response to heavily armed offenders.

However, forget the "cherry spot", give him the money. The officer that is loosing a finger should be promoted to Sgt. first! The dept. should be ready to promote by the end of the month. His name should be on the Merit list, and not have to worry about the "Investigatory Training" class.

Than take the 75% and run, this way it's with Sgt's pay and not a PO salary.

GREAT JOB GUYS!!!!!! i love it when 3 shitheads meet their maker and the cops have little or no injuries. now for the reality---CR#'s, TRR's, and of course the long drawn out civil suit in which the families of these 3 pieces of shit will get paid. i wished i had a piece of shit relative who caused havoc. then i can hoot and holla at the hospital. then i hire a shithead atty and i gets paaaaaaaid. again great job guys. good guys 3 bad guys 0

In answer to your question, the shooting was near Belmont & Elston at around 9:45pm.

Apparently the Gang Intelligence Section received information that these three gangbangers were going to execute a "hit" on an unsuspecting female "cop groupie" known for posting endless nonsense on various police related web sites.

Thank Heaven they were unsuccessful!!! Now I can continue to receive my daily does of nonsense on this and other police related blogs.

Excerpt from article Justice Department to Probe increase in Violent Crime. What has Chicago been telling the public via media? Wonder what the crime rates reflect in safe haven cities like Detroit has been for a while.**************************

Thomas Frazier, the executive director of the Major Cities Chiefs Association, which represents the police departments of the 56 largest cities, said police departments already knew the reason for rising violent-crime rates: gangs, drug use and poverty.

As the crime rate went down and the country became more concerned about the risk of an international terrorist attack, "crime fell off the national radar screen," he said.

If the Justice Department wanted to help police departments with rising crime, it would increase federal funding, Frazier said, adding that "anything else is another academic exercise."

Justice Department officials said they planned to select cities over the next several weeks based on size and geographic location. After completing the review, the department will determine how best to match federal programs with certain cities and will fund new programs "where necessary."

"The smart government approach is to figure out what are the factors that are contributing to the spike in those particular communities," said Tasia Scolinos, a Justice Department spokeswoman. "Once you identify what those factors are, you're better able to determine where to put your resources and programs."

Old man Daley took the shot guns out of squads to be politically correct since they were intimidating the population that was disrupting. Your not getting a rack back in this safe haven city. It's still not politically correct for the were still deprived roll over generations nearly 60 yrs. later. Reflect on Detroit.

I have been saying this for a while. Today's events are all the more reason we need REAL firepower in the squadcar. Supt. Cline, please give us a fighting chance, we need those rifles.

Luckily, no coppers lost their life today. SWAT is nice and they serve their role, however, we all know they cant be everywhere when a rifle is needed. We are seeing alot more .223 casings at these ghetto shootings.

I would GLADLY pay for ALL expenses associated with the purchase and training for an "equalizing" weapon that the department would authorize for "on-duty" carry, secured in the beat car. It would be completely optional and voluntary (just like an auxilary weapon), and it would start in PATROL!!!

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Well stated. It is a sad commentary when you see that most suburban police departments, who have a fraction of the crime, are packing automatic rifles. The odds are much greater that we will need them than them.Hell, at least give us out shotguns back!!

The City won't let us have the firepower we need because it would cost too much money to purchase the rifles and let's face it, who votes for the democratic machine in the city? You think they are going to risk the ghetto vote by giving the P.O.'s rifles/shotguns?

The sad thing is that it wouldn't cost the city a dime if they approved it. We could purchse the rifles ourselves and train/qualify ourselves. I know many a coppers who would glady shell out the money.

But we are a REactive department, no a PROactive one. It will take a few coppers getting murdered when .223 rounds pierce their vests and kill them for this discussion to even come up. Even then, we still won't win.

This is what happens when you let a bunch of criminal democrat politicians run a city/police department.

As a social worker in the citys schools I want to protest this shooting!!! 1. No one in the offenders car should have survived. (this goes with out saying) No officer should be injured at any time in any way. 3. The police should have better weapons than the preps. (perhaps small "city bombs" could be developed.4. Injured officers should not have to beg the city to get proper medical care. Not now not ever!

Gang members families continually flow into and engage in disruptive combative conduct at hospitals whenever their thug family members are admitted, whether police are directly or indirectly involved. Naturally the media semi reports it with a soft spin in favor of the criminal mind set only when the police are involved.

Thank you witnesses for your honor and assistance without it the tainted media would have toasted us just to have another police hate story for their corrupt ratings and favors to their politicians who are tearing this country apart.

Word to all the Liberal lying Media Outlets. Were tired of you and there happens to be more of us than you, just like your pandering corrupt politicians and friends. Notice your ratings and their slow but certain demise into jail cells?

Bye, Bye, Age of Aquariuspolitically correct controlled Media CEO's and your so called reporters. Good riddance to your unjustly inflated incomes and high life styles!

Try unemployment income for a few weeks and try to sign up for Link along with housing voucher, medical benefits and the free public education for all. Enjoy your new family of thugs and criminal law breakers, you know the one you helped create for years as the down trodden preying on the law abiding citizens for their and your spin profits.

As you reported always remember whether police are public or private mercenaries. There's is no guarantee to your safety.

SWAT was apart of this incident, they shot several rounds of 223 into the car and bad guys. We'll have to wait to for the ME's report to see how many rounds were swat and how many were gang intell., Good luck to the shot po and job well done by all po's.

Glad all work out and our boys are OK... Suggestion for problem #8; the lack of firepower for our Officers. We are not even allowed to carry shotguns, MP-5s, etc; while the bad guys are carrying AK-47s... I suggest the city should let us buy are own, it would be next to me in my squad.. Stay safe boys (and girls) and keep your firearms training a priority. Even if the city does not..

Knuckledragger is an ancient insult dating back to the days of the caveman. After the Cro-Magnon started walking upright, he used to call Neanderthal man a "knuckledragger" and try to score cave-chicks in the trendiest cave neighborhoods.

Looking for racism where none exists is the sign of a very tiny undeveloped mind - knuckledragger.

SHOTGUNS: Anyone remember the reason that the shotguns were removed from the cars? The bosses said they could not be properly secured but as usual that was all bullshit..The real reason was that certain members of the "Community" felt threatened. I leave it to you to figure out what "Community"

PTSS (Post Traumatic Slavery Syndrome.) Discounts and loans to certain areas in the city from Chase were not enough for Tillman. Now she has self diagnosed herself via script from the Sun Times PTSS. Whoop, Whoop LOL.

I left CPD for a full pension in January, and took a Chif's job in a burb; one of the first things I was asked was if I was going to pull the M-4s from the cars. I was delighted to tell them that not only did the M-4s stay, but everyone had to qualify with them and the 12 gauges that are also in each and every car. No if's ands or buts. I tried to get m-4s for all the supervisors while I was in OCD, but the lack of testicular fortitude on behalf of legal affairs leadership stopped it. Thanks God the officers are OK, and the bad guys NOT!

"I'd rushed out when the initial reports into the newsroom said this had started with another youth pulling a pellet gun, but by the time I'd arrived, we were pretty sure it wasn't anything like that. Now the word was a gang member with an AK-47. I stayed anyway."

Sorry you didn't get the chance to blast the police on this one, Mark.

If anyone doubts the media bias towards the police just read his above statement. Any P.O that buys this rag should be ashamed of themselves.

At least we knew Mitchell was racist. Now we know Brown is a police hater.

Very good work and a very happy ending, except for the P.O.'s injury. This doesn't happen nearly often enough. It should be more common than those silly seatbelt missions.! A few more of these incidents & the asshole gangbangers won't be so quick to shoot up the town, like they do EVERY DAY & NIGHT.

Anonymous said... Swat was on scene working with gang investigations. Swat PO unloaded a full 30rd M4 mag at the bad guys. Get sum!!!!!!!!!

M4 only holds 15. CPD rules restricting even the firepower they allow us to have.

10/31/2006 08:22:21 PM

Have you ever seen a M4 the Dept/SWAT has, you obviously haven't, they all have 30 rd mags standard, just a little FYI.

I wish, they would let us buy our own ar-15, like we have to buy our duty weapon, and let us carry it as our secondary weapon. Maybe have to qual twice a year with the rifle because its a different type of weapon. They should issue us both our pistol and rifle, but that ain' gonna happen.

Glad all work out and our boys are OK... Suggestion for problem #8; the lack of firepower for our Officers. We are not even allowed to carry shotguns, MP-5s, etc; while the bad guys are carrying AK-47s... I suggest the city should let us buy are own, it would be next to me in my squad.. Stay safe boys (and girls) and keep your firearms training a priority. Even if the city does not.. -----------------------------------

I believe it was 1969 when the gave us the shotguns mounted in the front. It took about 2 years and they made us pull them from the front and put them in the trunks. It was Jesse and his boys that complained so they did what was political correct. They should have told him to kiss off but Conlisk was pussy as were all the politicians. Back then everyone carried some kind of unauthorized weapon with them anyway. Maybe one of these days will get a Super with BIG NUTS and that will all change.

I urge any minorities or persons of interest to print out SCC's racism and send it to any of the minority alderman with a letter of protest along with the caption the blog is ran by a cop.

Oh boy. First of all tiny brain, you have to FIND any racism we print. Everything we print runs through a couple of levels of editors and it posted under our tags and bylines. Everything else is by our visitors, which cover 5 US timezones and 4 continents worldwide. Good luck generating outrage on that count.

Second of all, what are the aldercreatures going to do? Take away our freedom of speech? Hahahaha. Please, please, please take away our ability to publish our opinions, on our own time, from our own houses, on our own computers, off duty. We would OWN this town (along with your dumb ass.) We already have the ACLU offering to represent us free of charge - and we HATE the ACLU with a passion.

What, is your printer broke ? You are a Fucking Moron . This Blog is here so the Police can vent their anger over anything that bothers them. Would you prefer that that do it over one of your relatives heads with a baton ? GET A LIFE YOU PIECE OF SHIT.

Anonymous said... Thanks for providing the incentive to bring this forum ran by a police officer to the City and Aldermans attention. I don't mind spending the dough or time at all.

10/31/2006 11:20:27 PM

Hey Suzy Q wanna be, I'm offended! Your being politically incorrect it happens to be Alderperson's not Aldermans. Still trying to keep the little woman down and bare foot are you!Go ahead and spend away your dime, they already read it regularly, lol.Bet you even tip your pinkie when sipping your tea Suzy Q. Who are you kidding anyway. How many locks do you keep on your doors and windows when you sleep? I have to go lay down now, I'm suffering from PTSS the Sun Times says so.

He also criticized Indiana's new voter ID law, which will be tested in a general election for the first time next Tuesday. He compared it to poll taxes and other barriers to voting that blacks have faced.

"Now we don't ask you, 'Did your granddaddy vote?' when you know your granddaddy was a slave. We ask you for identification that we know large percentages of you would not have, given the social circumstances beyond your control," Sharpton said.+++++++++++++++++++

Uhhh Rev the year 1865, well that would make Grandaddy currently 141 yrs of age. What citizen can't get a state I.D. due to social circumstance beyond their control in 2006? Come on now Rev in your silk suits are you suffering from new age PTSS which is actually. (Political Tripe Shameless Spin.)

Once upon a time all you needed to carry a shotgun or additonal whatever weapon was your sergeants permission. That made good sense. But today the Sergeants are not trusted by the upper management to make decisions like that

Today politically correct hacks make that decision and that decision is NO.

To you LOL LOL, the aldertheives who are daleys sheep! they are all pets! Free speech! Hey brain maybe you could investigate why is it that the inspector general cannot ever investigate the theives that are elected at city hall? What happeened to the treasurer Judy Rice? federalitis? Anyone but daley!

P.S. a police officer doesnt have his own time unless he expressly states these are his personal views and not the policy of the CPD especially after he advertises as a Chicago Cop.

So we're the police 24-7? We have no time that is our own? Do we get paid for this? Or are we ... (wait for it) ... SLAVES??!??

Go boil your head asshat. We don't have our own time? You're a fucking idiot - go print that one out. Then salt it and stick it up your ass if you can find room up there with your giant neanderthal skull.

Glock? Glock? I'm tired about hearing about fucking Glock! Glock's don't make the man... If you wnt to shoot perfection the Beretta 92FS is as close as it comes! If you don't beleve me just ask the Area Four dicks that stopped in back of Tylers GTO on Augusta Blvd. two nite ago! The SIG is a durable, accurate pistol as well. But I prewfer the Beretta. If I had more money sixteen years ago I might have bought the stainless version made in Italy, but the American maded version is tops. Glock, Glock, Hey I like struedel and cukoo clocks as much as the next brown shirt but German guns are typically over-designed.

Tom Dineen,great job.I have known him for a long time and he is the real police.and a great police officer,Hope the dEpt will take care of him the right way.He is a hard headed police officer,but we need more like him.from his ex-co worker,get well.K>O

I am sure glad we stayed on our topic of the shooting. My God can we quit it with the fucking race card all the time, it gets old, quit blaming everyone else and start taking responsibility for your own actions.

I'm assuming you'll be able to manage to read my entire post since you apparently didn't make it through Mark Brown's entire column.

Mark Brown is anything but a police hater and has even lent his support by volunteering at benefits for injured CPD officers. But, perhaps you weren't there to see him.

If you'd taken the time to read read the entire column, you'd note that he wrote at one point, "When you tell people you're a reporter, they often say, 'That must be exciting,' but it's usually not."

Then he concluded the column by writing, "Looking for an exciting job? Join the police."

And for the Phat Phil crowd, he even mentioned how short the Supt. is.

Liberal? Yes. Police hater? Not by a longshot.

10/31/2006 11:51:25 PM

I did read his entire column and just because he says we have an exciting job does not take away from the fact that he ran out of the news room because he thought he had an opportunity to bash the police over the "Pellet gun".

I guess 2 dead offenders that shot at officers with a semi automatic rifle and a P.O. that had been shot isn't as important a story to him as a pellet gun story.

AHEM!!! EXCUSE ME!! WHERE IS JESSE, JESSE JR., MEEKS, ET AL??? THIS IS EXACTLY THE TIME FOR THEM TO STEP UP AND DENOUNCE THE UGLYNESS THAT COMES FROM THE GHETTO. WHEN WOULD THEY HAVE LIKED TO HAVE BEEN HEARD...AT A DEAD OFFICER'S FUNERAL??? (GOD FORBID)WHY AREN'T THEY OUT THERE TELLING EVERYONE THAT TRYING TO KILL SOMEONE WITH AN AK-47, NAMELY A POLICE OFFICER, IS WRONG? THEY ARE PROBABLY SETTING UP PERSONAL COUNSELING SESSIONS, FOR A FEE OF COURSE, ON HOW TO SUE THE PO-LESE

Not all cops are shy about carrying the long guns. The Area 2 Gun Team officers are all qualified to carry the Dept. issue Remington 870 pump, and they take them out on all search warrants. I hear the Sgts. on the teams have shotgun cards too. I think all investigative teams (including tact) should have them! Wish I worked on that Area 2 team...I saw them working a SW out here in 005 this summer, and they handled their business.

I am shotgun qualified but was denied a shotgun by the Lt. when I went to sign one out for a search warrant.This comes from S.O.S. before all this shit hit the fan.It appears that card is just another useless piece of paper like our F.O.P. membershipcars-They mean nothing!

The officer involved in this shooting did a great job! He did the right thing and should get the Police Medal and a Meritorious promotion. But my fellow officers, I know you want to do the right thing, BUT DON'T PUT THE NAMES OF OFFICERS INVOLVED IN SHOOTINGS ON THIS BLOG, and SCC you should try to screen them when they do. If you must identify anyone, use initials only. There are people who read this site who don't like us and wish to do us harm. There are numerous search engines out there that can be used to locate people. There is a reason that the Department does not give out this information. Please think before you write.

The sad thing is that it wouldn't cost the city a dime if they approved it. We could purchse the rifles ourselves and train/qualify ourselves. I know many a coppers who would glady shell out the money.

Hell, just let me register the one I already have. I'll even get "properly trained" on my own time.

WELL THESE OFFICERS ALL HAVE TO FILL OUT TRR'S! THEY ARE IN UNITS, SO THEY GET 19 MORE TO GO. AND THEN THEY CAN BE MOVED OUT AND PUT SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY WILL NOT DO ANYMORE HARM, TO THOSE POOR LITTLE NEW BREEDS. DOES BOYS WHERE GOOD GANG MEMBERS, WE SHOULD THROW A BENEFIT FOR THEM.

More good news: One of the Honchos of the New Breed repeatedly stabbed himself when police arrived to arrest him. This whimpering cowardly fuck cant stand the thought of prison for life. What a shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!