Savannah wrote:Ugh, I hate the Go Girl. The squishiness makes it very difficult to get a tight seal. (No wonder it was so cheap.) Any rigid model is probably going to work way better. I've never tried the P-style. I like the Freshette, but it's wayyy overpriced. Believe it or not, I bought an elliptically shaped automotive funnel for $3 as an experiment, because it's similar in shape. One of the ePlaya ladies recommended it, but I haven't tried it yet.

If it works, the automotive funnel is going to be the tent funnel, and the Freshette will be the mobile funnel, because it breaks down into two parts.

I have a truck funnel which is the correct shape, but the spout is a flexible accordion and accumulates pee drops. I need to look in an auto parts place, not a truckstop.

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Dogs are the leaders of the planet. If you see two life forms, one of them’s making a poop, the other one’s carrying it for him, who would you assume is in charge? " I am a controlled substance". Savannah.

Ah geez I am going to make my bladder speech again. Please skip to the next post if you have already got the message.

Your bladder and sphincter are made of MUSCLE. They responds to exercise. Give them some work to do. Help them to be strong. Unless you have a rock-hard six-pack, your bladder can hold a liter of urine comfortably, and even the most aggressively hydrated person can get away with 3 potty visits per day.

And ladies, if you sit down when you pee, it will all come out just fine and work those muscles through their full range.

I do not understand why people would deliberately or ignorantly weaken themselves, and then spend time, money, and effort on these elaborate strategies to make up for it!

"Burning Man ruined my life as I knew it, and I have never been happier." -mgb327

Well shit, I don't know the difference. I just looked up "pine tree", and there it was. Doesn't look very furry to me.

Dogs are the leaders of the planet. If you see two life forms, one of them’s making a poop, the other one’s carrying it for him, who would you assume is in charge? " I am a controlled substance". Savannah.

Okay, first of all, I am fully aware that I don't do enough kegels for my prolapsed bladder. Maybe the cool kids remember to do their daily regimen of them. I have trouble remembering to do my back exercises, much less my bladder exercises. That's not really something that is going to suddenly change just because some stranger gives me a "speech" about my lazy bladder. And strong muscles or not, why would I want to lug around a gallon of liquid in my bladder all of the time just so that I can claim that I only need to pee 3 times a day? LOL. That said, this idea that a traveling toilet is some sort of newfangled elaborate strategy that takes time and money just makes me laugh. I have camped my entire life in remote locations where there are no bathrooms or portapotties. My bathroom "strategies" change based on what type and location of camping I'm doing. I usually just squat and pee, but dealing with poo can be trickier if you are somewhere where animals dig up your poo, or where BLM will fine you for burying it, or where it is too rocky for proper burial. The point is to adapt to the circumstances and leave no trace. To me, the portapotties are the new kids on the block. The portapotties aren't at Burning Man because they symbolize radical self-reliance. They are there because they are necessary for such a large crowd. I am in the habit of taking care of myself. If that means I'd rather not put down my beer and leave my shady spot so that I can walk a block and a half to stand in line for a portapotty, then I really don't see why that seems to bother some of you. Perhaps we can agree to accept that we are all different and that while there is a wrong way to deal with your bodily elimination (hovering, pooping on the playa, etc), there is no magical "right" way, but simply a variety of ways that different people have used. I thought the point was that everybody does whatever works for them as long as it fits within the leave no trace regulations. I sense a bit of conformity pushing in this thread.

I'm neither disrespecting her nor her advice. I'm simply restating that I already know that, and that a positive potty experience at Burning Man shouldn't have to depend on whether you followed a kegel regimen so that you can have a bladder of steel and not get scolded for your chosen elimination strategies. I haven't told a single person how to pee at Burning Man, but I'm sure getting an awful lot of "advice." I'll remember that the next time I feel like sharing something that happened to work for me.

mytripod wrote:I'm neither disrespecting her nor her advice. I'm simply restating that I already know that, and that a positive potty experience at Burning Man shouldn't have to depend on whether you followed a kegel regimen so that you can have a bladder of steel and not get scolded for your chosen elimination strategies. I haven't told a single person how to pee at Burning Man, but I'm sure getting an awful lot of "advice." I'll remember that the next time I feel like sharing something that happened to work for me.

you may be taking this all a little more serious than necessary.

You are accepted, just as the perfect being you are. We rib, poke, and snark for sport. some better than others, but still.

It can be sort of a "hazing" if you will, at times just to see if you're serious, or trolling.

now, turn that frown, upside down and pull in that lower lip before a bird lands on it.

mytripod wrote:I'm neither disrespecting her nor her advice. I'm simply restating that I already know that, and that a positive potty experience at Burning Man shouldn't have to depend on whether you followed a kegel regimen so that you can have a bladder of steel and not get scolded for your chosen elimination strategies. I haven't told a single person how to pee at Burning Man, but I'm sure getting an awful lot of "advice." I'll remember that the next time I feel like sharing something that happened to work for me.

I think MDF prefaced her message a little something like this:

mydearfriend wrote:Ah geez I am going to make my bladder speech again. Please skip to the next post if you have already got the message.

This board and the questions and answered posted are seen by anyone reading and while you may already know everything that MDF mentioned there may be folks that don't know anything about kegel exercises.

Just like shade covers, everyone has a method that works for them and is likely to chime in with the method that worked best.... And sometimes it comes as a surprise to folks that their solution may not be the only one. It appears that you may be taking the other solutions that are being posted as personal attacks, don't take it personal...

Illuminate. Navigate. Celebrate.What would you do if you knew you couldn't fail?

..and remember that rambling on and on with a bajillion different ways of doing or thinking about the same thing is an eplaya tradition. No one "owns" a thread... especially the creator. Once a thread is created, it becomes it's own beast and flows to whichever direction it's pushed in.

mytripodfwiw, at this point if it were someone else being offended by something you said, we'd be giving you the same protection. Yeah, we do some hazing, but we actually do let people be part of the cool kids with half a dozen posts, or so. You've made that bar, I'm pretty sure. (It's not an exact post count, and I can't speak for anyone but myself--thus the equivocation.)

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