Question to those who say being gay is a choice?

Nobody said that homosexuals were the same as pedophiles, murderers, hetero, or anything at all.

Many have said that if homosexuality wasn't a choice then therefore pedophilia isn't a choice either. To accept that homosexuality is not a choice
(natural) is to accept that pedophilia is natural.

It does not mean that to me at all. I was speaking in terms of who one is attracted to and was it a choice.

Regardless of how a person chooses to take it, not once did I see the comparison in the same manner as being described here. Maybe pedophiles can't
help how they are. I don't know. I'd like to know how a person comes to choose certain things that are unacceptable, but that's another thread
entirely.

To me.. is was just a question of choice. After all, we don't know. We do know right from wrong though, and pedophilia is wrong. So I guess the real
question is, is homosexuality wrong. Because that's really what the question in the OP is getting at in my opinion. Otherwise why ask if it's a
choice.
And you see what road that took us on.

Oh I understand that. I was just making an statement and making it clear. Some posters in this thread and other threads have implied that if we choose
to accept homosexuality as being natural and not a choice, then it will lead us to accept pedophilia.

So I guess the real question is, is homosexuality wrong. Because that's really what the question in the OP is getting at in my opinion. Otherwise why
ask if it's a choice.

That's what fundamental Christians and apparently other people have asked, not the OP. OP has turned it around to them.

Homosexuality is wrong so therefore it is a choice.
Homosexuality is wrong so therefore it is not natural.
Homosexuality is "icky" so therefore it's wrong.

Wow that is impressive. So if we can all outright determine that pedophilia is wrong without question and without debate...then why is it harder to
determine whether it's wrong or right to be homosexual? Just to be clear we agree that an adult having sexual relations with a child is wrong, yes?
Yet we can't agree on whether members of the same gender having sexual relations is right or wrong? Aren't they both outside of the "norm"? Yet
one act is justified while the other is not......why??

Back to the original question, people choose all the time to be straight and ignore their feelings.

One of my closest friends who has been with his gay partner for about 10 years, has two kids from a previous relationship. He was raised a Christian
and married straight out of school and tried to ignore it. He never followed any of his "urges" and eventually his wife realised that things weren't
right and embarked upon an affair. They got divorced and this is when he decided to follow his "heart." So he did choose to be straight for many years
until he realised that he wasn't happy. He obviously had sex with his wife and produced two fantastic, well adjusted boys who are comfortable with
their father's sexuality. The fact is many people try to choose the path of being straight and all that goes along with it so in theory someone could
choose to be gay. They might not be happy or attracted to the person they are with but they could choose that path.

Right cause no one under the age of 18 can give consent right? Wrong! Society says no one under the age of 18 can give consent, we made that rule.
Anyone who can speak regardless of their age can give consent by agreeing or disagreeing if that's the case.

Pedophilia is an attraction to people who are around 11 years of age or under.
An 11 year old is not able to consent because they do not have the capacity to understand sex and it's outcome.
Just to add If you are attracted to 15-19 year olds it is called Ephebophilia.

Um boymonkey74 you were the one that said it's genetics not choice. That means whoever or whatever creates us implants that code into our genetics to
make people straight/gay/whatever ummm that would make the creator the engineer...of our genetics.

Only If you assume we were created by intelligent design.
I do not.
But If we were that would mean the creator put in the genetics of being gay on purpose and so completely natural.
So either way it is natural.
Like I have said it is just part of the human condition.

Pedophilia is not defined by specific age, it's defined as sexual feelings directed toward children. In society anyone under the age of 18 is legally
considered a child. Also there are children way under the age of 18 who engage in sexual acts. So you're saying a child can understand and consent to
sex only with another minor but not with an adult. Makes no sense.

We are driven by our urges. Call it our animal heritage if you want. They are not a choice. Although they can be affected by external or internal
factors, like psychical, physical stress or hormonal imbalance.

Sexual attraction is a complex thing, and depends on genetic, psychological and cultural factors. You can not simply choose to be hetero, homo, bi or
asexual.

Whether some type of sexuality is considered anormal is a cultural thing. There can not be anormal behavior, if there is no norm.

It is important to differentiate between the desire and the action. Because the action is something that you choose to do (to fulfill a desire).

Um no not natural just intended. There's no evidence to suggest that our creator is the creator of all. It's possible that our creator, our
engineer, is only responsible for creating us and nothing else. Therefore our creator and nature may NOT be one in the same and that would negate your
theory that homosexuality is natural.

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