The mouse is a crappy way to control a game, and I say this as someone who has been gaming on everything-- PC included-- since PCs were invented. I say this as someone who built my own gaming rig.

Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

The only people who obsess about mouse & keyboard anymore are obsessive twitch FPS gamers who think circle-strafing is vitally important and who think winning a round of COD is some kind of grand honor... And frankly, most FPS games suck these days.

aaand I just read today that Rockstar formally announced the release of the PC GTA5 will be this fall! Oh and its also coming out for the slightly newer but still classically outdated consoles too.

Funny, but honestly it probably should have been held onto and released on those machines in the first place. It was really shoehorned onto the last-gen consoles.

I was pretty surprised as well that they tried to jam another title onto that generation, but hey they get to double dip on anyone who absolutely had to play the game even on one of those machines and couldn't wait for the proper release with at least some semblance of the horse power required to bring those games to life. I've intended to give them full price for the game but only when its out on a platform worthy of it...so this fall, finally :)

Nix Nightbird:The mouse is a crappy way to control a game, and I say this as someone who has been gaming on everything-- PC included-- since PCs were invented. I say this as someone who built my own gaming rig.

Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

The only people who obsess about mouse & keyboard anymore are obsessive twitch FPS gamers who think circle-strafing is vitally important and who think winning a round of COD is some kind of grand honor... And frankly, most FPS games suck these days.

If you can't figure out how to comfortably get a mouse in your hand while relaxing on a couch then I fully agree: You should stick to consoles.

You mean the smooth, controlled, sweeping motion that can be modified by the width of a pixel with the intuition of writing is subpar to the herky jerky, only made slightly smooth through the usage of aim-assist algorithms, all the while reminding one of the same old dick waggling joystick nonsense of 40 years ago? Hmm.

The mouse is a crappy way to control a game, and I say this as someone who has been gaming on everything-- PC included-- since PCs were invented. I say this as someone who built my own gaming rig.

Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

The only people who obsess about mouse & keyboard anymore are obsessive twitch FPS gamers who think circle-strafing is vitally important and who think winning a round of COD is some kind of grand honor... And frankly, most FPS games suck these days.

I cannot imagine how horrible it would be to play Civ, nethack, WOW, StarCraft, SimCity, (I could go on) on a console, with no mouse to select things nor keyboard to give multiple different commands.

Any if those games with 10 buttons and a D-Pad would be an exercise in frustration.

The mouse is a crappy way to control a game, and I say this as someone who has been gaming on everything-- PC included-- since PCs were invented. I say this as someone who built my own gaming rig.

Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

The only people who obsess about mouse & keyboard anymore are obsessive twitch FPS gamers who think circle-strafing is vitally important and who think winning a round of COD is some kind of grand honor... And frankly, most FPS games suck these days.

You just made a great argument for PC > console. I can sit comfy in my lumbar-supporting chair and use a mouse.

It's not that complicated, it's how I work from home and play games all the time. bluetooth keyboard, bluetooth trackball.

/ and usually butt naked on the couch, i have a short attention span for work and games but I can last for hours with porn.// if only with my robot....my girl robot./// kidding, wife would kill me if I got streaks on the couch.

The mouse is a crappy way to control a game, and I say this as someone who has been gaming on everything-- PC included-- since PCs were invented. I say this as someone who built my own gaming rig.

Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

The only people who obsess about mouse & keyboard anymore are obsessive twitch FPS gamers who think circle-strafing is vitally important and who think winning a round of COD is some kind of grand honor... And frankly, most FPS games suck these days.

I cannot imagine how horrible it would be to play Civ, nethack, WOW, StarCraft, SimCity, (I could go on) on a console, with no mouse to select things nor keyboard to give multiple different commands.

Any if those games with 10 buttons and a D-Pad would be an exercise in frustration.

/doesn't play FPS games//slashes come in pairs, not threes.

Seems to work just fine for Minecraft. The only thing the console versions seem to miss out on is the barebones crafting.

PC Skyrim: Finish game. Stick in a box in the attic.Console Skyrim: Finish game. Sell or trade game in for something new.

/just saying

What's a "disc"? My Skyrim was a digital download from steam. And while you're right that I can't resell it, I get most games at deep discounts during holiday sales and the digital bits are still shiny and new, vs a used dvd for a console that may or may be dinged up. Also, PC graphics >>>>>>>>>>>>> console. Also, mods.

LazarusLong42:I cannot imagine how horrible it would be to play Civ, nethack, WOW, StarCraft, SimCity, (I could go on) on a console, with no mouse to select things nor keyboard to give multiple different commands.

How come consoles don't have the option to control with a mouse/keyboard. I would think this would bring in more converts, plus they could have more officially licensed peripherals.

Nix Nightbird:Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

This is what I've been doing for the last year or so. Big comfy chaise couch with big 55" LED TV with my gaming rig hooked directly to my surround sound system.. I sit on the couch either sitting up or reclining on the chaise with a wireless keyboard and mouse. I've done everything from FPSs to platformers this way. It's easy and very comfy.

Depending on the game, I find that I like using a controller for movement and then using a mouse to interact. It makes it a very intuitive gaming experience, far better than trying to use the keyboard to move. I hold the controller in my left hand and use it to move (and cycle through hotkeys) and use the mouse with my right.

LazarusLong42:I cannot imagine how horrible it would be to play Civ, nethack, WOW, StarCraft, SimCity, (I could go on) on a console, with no mouse to select things nor keyboard to give multiple different commands.

You mean the smooth, controlled, sweeping motion that can be modified by the width of a pixel with the intuition of writing is subpar to the herky jerky, only made slightly smooth through the usage of aim-assist algorithms, all the while reminding one of the same old dick waggling joystick nonsense of 40 years ago? Hmm.

Or maybe he is saying how inconvenient it is to setup any mouse button in game settings to automatically execute a command that would otherwise require a console user to press "B" every 60 seconds. Got it.

Also, that dude never heard about putting his feet up on the desk, keyboard on lap and mouse comfortably set where your arm rests naturally... pfff... what a load of bullocks saying consoles are better for ergonomics.

BigBuzzman:LazarusLong42: I cannot imagine how horrible it would be to play Civ, nethack, WOW, StarCraft, SimCity, (I could go on) on a console, with no mouse to select things nor keyboard to give multiple different commands.

Nix Nightbird:Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.