^ reasons like that is why ASG appearances are a garbage way to look at HOF candidacy. The ASG isn't a participation ribbon; it's supposed to be merited by your play.

Pierce has been putting up 17/9.4/7.2, steal, 2 threes since Rondo's been out. Only shooting 42.5fg% and turning it over ~3.5 times a game, but still. Rudy's been good too (21/6.3/2.7, 2.5+ steals, block, three), but how absurd to punish a player simply for being really good for a long time.

^ reasons like that is why ASG appearances are a garbage way to look at HOF candidacy. The ASG isn't a participation ribbon; it's supposed to be merited by your play.

Pierce has been putting up 17/9.4/7.2, steal, 2 threes since Rondo's been out. Only shooting 42.5fg% and turning it over ~3.5 times a game, but still. Rudy's been good too (21/6.3/2.7, 2.5+ steals, block, three), but how absurd to punish a player simply for being really good for a long time.

Agreed. Previous years should play no part in the decision-making process.

^ reasons like that is why ASG appearances are a garbage way to look at HOF candidacy. The ASG isn't a participation ribbon; it's supposed to be merited by your play.

Pierce has been putting up 17/9.4/7.2, steal, 2 threes since Rondo's been out. Only shooting 42.5fg% and turning it over ~3.5 times a game, but still. Rudy's been good too (21/6.3/2.7, 2.5+ steals, block, three), but how absurd to punish a player simply for being really good for a long time.

I dont think ASG appearances is one of the criteria for HOF consideration. Brad Daugherty had mutiple ASG appearances and so did Sprewell, i dont think theyll be in the Hall anytime soon.

I think it goes beyond a player's stats and achievements, if they put Gay in over PP, im not saying Gay doesnt deserve to be in the ASG, but it probably would have something to do with the efforts of the NBA to aggressively promote basketball in Canada. Specially with the current winning streak and the sensationalism of the trade, it could be a good opportunity for the NBA to pull more Canadians to the NBA mainstream, if theyre willing to do it.

ASG appearances aren't a criteria, no... but every time there are players up for induction, inevitably, their number of appearances gets mentioned as a point in their favour if they made a bunch. Obviously, you have to do other things, but my point was just... that kind of reasoning has nothing to do with the current season of basketball and you're indirectly punishing a guy for being really good. The ASG has shifted to having more to do with marketing and flash and less to do with substance it just dilutes the value of making it. You don't make it on just merit anymore; you have to have be popular and flashy.

I cannot see Gay being considered, at all. He's work in memphis would have to be taken under consideration and he was having his worst season statistically.

I don't think he deserves to go, and would be horribly shocked if he did. However, if the raps play well next year and are the 6th seed or higher than I can see him getting serious consideration. BUT this year? Not a chance.

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