Discussion of various forms of Advance Fee Fraud, including application fees for loans that never materialize, self-liquidating loan scams, as well as mortgage elimination scams and related debt elimination scams [Nigerian-type scams should go in the Nigerian 4-1-9 forum]

For those interested, I've seen a number of people get started here before really going off the rails into very questionable mortgage debt elimination beliefs and methods. Due to the nature of the members and conversational topics, it also seems to be somewhat of a gateway drug for SovCit types. Maybe those gurus lurk here and use the groups to groom likely candidates, I don't know.