I have been playing a lot of solo top in ranked and starting to get some issues vs Lee Sin since hes kinda hard to kill in lane due to his shield/sustain so just asking who are te best picks vs him? Or shud i pick Teleport? Ive been trying to fight back as Jayce getting Tears Of Goddess to kite him to death getting some good results but still hard.

[quote=IAmByakuya]I have been playing a lot of solo top in ranked and starting to get some issues vs [[Lee Sin]] since hes kinda hard to kill in lane due to his shield/sustain so just asking who are te best picks vs him? Or shud i pick [[Teleport]]? Ive been trying to fight back as [[Jayce]] getting [[Tears Of Goddess]] to kite him to death getting some good results but still hard.
Also any good tips for those annoying [[singed]]?[/quote]

Elohell is like Irelia's stun: if your real level is equal or lower than the level you are in, you're STUNNED there forever. If your actual level is higher than the level you are in, you're just SLOWED in your way up.

I feel there's enough that can beat Lee, though not a lot that is a guaranteed win because his early game is troublesome for pretty much anyone.

I'd say either pick strong melee fighters that'll outdamage him when tries to trade ( Udyr, Olaf, Darius) or go for champs that outscale him late game ( Jax, Irelia, Vladimir). It all depends on how you play it, in the end, but he should be manageable.

[quote=Wayne3100]Is [[Jayce]] all you've tried?
I feel there's enough that can beat Lee, though not a lot that is a guaranteed win because his early game is troublesome for pretty much anyone.
I'd say either pick strong melee fighters that'll outdamage him when tries to trade ([[Udyr]], [[Olaf]], [[Darius]]) or go for champs that outscale him late game ([[Jax]], [[Irelia]], [[Vladimir]]). It all depends on how you play it, in the end, but he should be manageable.
As for [[Singed]], I think range is still what works best ([[Teemo]], [[Kayle]], [[Vladimir]] or [[Jayce]]), though I've personally only played against him as [[Elise]] (she should win against him), [[Irelia]] (tough one but she actually can win) and [[Xin Zhao]]/[[Lee Sin]] (can both win but have to do so early).[/quote]

If you force tear versus lee don't expect to win trades. I agree with most of what wayne said about the lee matchup, and I add that if you're smart you can easily win with Rumble.

Singed can be troublesome if you don't know when and how to commit. His pre-catalyst phase is crucial and if you can't beat him by then you'll probably have a hard time. You need harassers who can disengage before he manages to Fling. Teemo can do that but Singed can still get the upper hand on the matchup by not dying and only farming. Vladimir and Kayle can do well, I don't fell like Jayce is that good a pick but I might've faced really bad ones. Once again, Rumble can win the matchup if you play it smart, Kennen and Elise have potential, Cho'Gath is a farm war that will only show it's pay once teamfighting starts.

[quote=FalseoGod]If you force tear versus lee don't expect to win trades. I agree with most of what wayne said about the lee matchup, and I add that if you're smart you can easily win with [[rumble]].
[[singed]] can be troublesome if you don't know when and how to commit. His pre-catalyst phase is crucial and if you can't beat him by then you'll probably have a hard time. You need harassers who can disengage before he manages to [[fling]]. [[teemo]] can do that but [[singed]] can still get the upper hand on the matchup by not dying and only farming. [[vladimir]] and [[kayle]] can do well, I don't fell like [[jayce]] is that good a pick but I might've faced really bad ones. Once again, [[rumble]] can win the matchup if you play it smart, [[kennen]] and [[elise]] have potential, [[cho'gath]] is a farm war that will only show it's pay once teamfighting starts.[/quote]

Lee beats Jayce lol. He just out sustains your poke and has multiple ways of getting back in your face after knocking him away. Then he slowly wears you down with small skirmishes and bursts you when you're low with his ult.

A well played Olaf beats Lee, Renekton beats Lee, and Riven stomps Lee because you can burst him down early on.

All you really have to do against Singed is learn to commit. If he wants to Fling, don't just eat it, hit him back or something.

[quote=tehAsian]Lee beats Jayce lol. He just out sustains your poke and has multiple ways of getting back in your face after knocking him away. Then he slowly wears you down with small skirmishes and bursts you when you're low with his ult.
A well played Olaf beats Lee, Renekton beats Lee, and Riven stomps Lee because you can burst him down early on.
All you really have to do against Singed is learn to commit. If he wants to Fling, don't just eat it, hit him back or something.[/quote]