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Actually haven´t heard of a single LBBG this winter . Apart from that, size indicates Herring as well. Quite a lot records of it these weeks.

BTW these weren´t the only larger gulls there. Apart from the ones in the picture there were 16 YLG and one ad Caspian.
Pretty plenty records of Caspian in Bavaria (>100 indv last weeks!). So I wouldn´t wonder if all (apart from the Herring) seen in the pic were Caspians. Some showed this Caspian typical albatross habit... All in all I´d say they´re all Caspians!?
I know, hard to tell from a photo. But gizz is one of the main clues of distinguishing those gulls, isn´t it?

Could upload some more pics if wished. Actually have to do this from our other computer :)...

go ahead, load them up here, they might be helpful. albatrossing is a good caspian feature but sometimes YLG do very similar postures. voices however would be diagnostic. the bills in the two grey backed ind. (3cy? 4cy?) look short and dark which led me more towards michahellis. but they could be caspians as well.

go ahead, load them up here, they might be helpful. albatrossing is a good caspian feature but sometimes YLG do very similar postures. voices however would be diagnostic. the bills in the two grey backed ind. (3cy? 4cy?) look short and dark which led me more towards michahellis. but they could be caspians as well.

Agree with the above.

Marcel - I would crop the original jpeg into 4 different edits; ie, one for each gull. Sharpen and then save as 1000 megapixels across and then pot each jpeg on here.