"You see that nigga turnin', You feel the bullet burnin', Nigga now you learnin'." - Duke Martin Luther King Jr, in his speech Brave New World(7:16:42 PM) richterenderas: dirk_action is a perpetuator of the socialist cause and a powerful ak-47 wardancer

Yeah I agree Daruna, I think the idea you can pluck 10,000 people out of a game and drop them into another is daft, but I also suspect they know everyone won't come over.

I think the idea with H1Z1 is to sort of break people into it and then move on. The Mittani seems genuinely confident we are going to fuck that game up to a state where we can laugh at the "real" players and then waltz off (as a group).

I think the idea eventually was to have say, for example, identical alliances in both EVE and Star Citizen (see, it's a hypothetical example, like SC is a hypothetical game lol) ran by the same people part of the same coalition. Applies to any game really though. Then you'd draw new members from both games and sort of cross pollinate them.

As for your points RE the Imperium having people who only give a fuck about ratting space, I think that expecting everyone or even a huge chunk of the coalition to drop £15 on a very specific genre of FPS game that is notoriously full of hackers and shit mechanics is unrealistic. I would guess less people signed up than they would hope, but I think no one would deny that a lot of line members are in he Imperium out of self interest. I mean if the Imperium turned shit and EXE was going to die as a result of it I'd expect us to leave too.

I think Mittens feels the fact the CFC an entity never really had an identity beyond "GSF and goonpets lol" is mainly to blame and was one of the reasons to calling it the Imperium and having a logo everyone can use.

"You see that nigga turnin', You feel the bullet burnin', Nigga now you learnin'." - Duke Martin Luther King Jr, in his speech Brave New World(7:16:42 PM) richterenderas: dirk_action is a perpetuator of the socialist cause and a powerful ak-47 wardancer

"You see that nigga turnin', You feel the bullet burnin', Nigga now you learnin'." - Duke Martin Luther King Jr, in his speech Brave New World(7:16:42 PM) richterenderas: dirk_action is a perpetuator of the socialist cause and a powerful ak-47 wardancer

That's literally the logic, it's like EVE circa 2005. The mechanics are shit but it's full of guys that pride themselves on the fact they are elite grizzled survivors a nd mobbing them to death with 30 naked guys with hatches is pretty funny.

That's literally the logic, it's like EVE circa 2005. The mechanics are shit but it's full of guys that pride themselves on the fact they are elite grizzled survivors a nd mobbing them to death with 30 naked guys with hatches is pretty funny.

"You see that nigga turnin', You feel the bullet burnin', Nigga now you learnin'." - Duke Martin Luther King Jr, in his speech Brave New World(7:16:42 PM) richterenderas: dirk_action is a perpetuator of the socialist cause and a powerful ak-47 wardancer

You can't solely blame goonswarm for that, n+1 is the logical conclusion of fighting in an open-ended sandbox. They just gamed the process and accelerated it. People were already coalescing into blobs before they were even on the scene.

[21:41:43] <<pitts>> theres no reason for me to be a shill when apple sells itself

Regardless of your opinions of GSF you can't deny they have played an important role in many events that have made EVE as successful as it is today. Other alliances have too, but GSF is definitely one of them.

Also as Don said N+1 game play is always the logical conclusion of a sandbox, if it was N+1 subcaps it would be N+1 supercapitals, if it's not N+1 spaceships it will be N+1 zombie apocalypse survivors etc.

Regardless of your opinions of GSF you can't deny they have played an important role in many events that have made EVE as successful as it is today. Other alliances have too, but GSF is definitely one of them.

Honestly, as much a old goonswarm fanboy and member as I was, yes you can. Eve went through its teething process and became a successful and sustainable game long before Goonfleet was formed. The heavy lifting was all done in 03/04. Even afterwards it was BoB that pioneered things like the espionage metagame, killed the first titan and then being the "big bad" enemy that had to be taken down. The goons contributed like ten really interesting storys from Mittani and that was basically that.

SOE is no longer called SOE (Sony realized that the ship was sinking so sold it off to some venture capitalists who then had to rename the group) and I highly doubt that they are looking to make any purchases at the moment.

SOE is no longer called SOE (Sony realized that the ship was sinking so sold it off to some venture capitalists who then had to rename the group) and I highly doubt that they are looking to make any purchases at the moment.

Honestly, as much a old goonswarm fanboy and member as I was, yes you can. Eve went through its teething process and became a successful and sustainable game long before Goonfleet was formed. The heavy lifting was all done in 03/04. Even afterwards it was BoB that pioneered things like the espionage metagame, killed the first titan and then being the "big bad" enemy that had to be taken down. The goons contributed like ten really interesting storys from Mittani and that was basically that.

That's right fuck you kitchner get the goon dick out of ur face and you can see the obvious too

"You see that nigga turnin', You feel the bullet burnin', Nigga now you learnin'." - Duke Martin Luther King Jr, in his speech Brave New World(7:16:42 PM) richterenderas: dirk_action is a perpetuator of the socialist cause and a powerful ak-47 wardancer

Nope. All the most publicised stories are of GSF and it's actions really, or am event they played some sort of part in.

You can argue they weren't the first to do it or whatever, but when you look at what people remember GSF is up there as one of the things people call to mind. BoB is also one of them and before you guys do your usual of putting words in my mouth or arguing about shit I didn't say, let me be clear I'm saying GSF are PART of what made EVE what it is today and we're major CONTRIBUTORS to its success.

You can try and re-create history all you want but to say that Goonswarm hadn't played a major role in the development of EVE is pretty dumb.