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So, i started this account mainly to get myself the motivation to start and finish a certain passion project. In this case my Mechanized Renegades and Heretics army. I am a terrible painter and worse photographer so you 've been warned. Regardless on with the show:

"Who are you to judge me? To insult me? You are nothing and you have seen nothing! I have sacrificed 25 years of my life for my pension and settlement rights to be stolen away under my nose because some aristocrat decided he did not want to settle my regiment and instead sent us back to hell. Ultimately he got what was coming for him and you, acolyte, a noble as you are of equal parasitic status to the planetary governor, will also get what you deserve!" General Meinel, voice recording, before brutaly butchering inquisitorial acolyte Renauld

Automatically Appended Next Post: So, this is the start, maybee i will expand on the story, maybee not, depends on my whims.

All of these are using Chimeras, two of which are as you can see basic, the third one was at one point in it's life a Basilisk chasis that got destroyed, then sold to me for cheap and now is a improvised Chimera with an autocannon.

The Second part is the Airborne support Two Valkyires with rocket pods and a multilaser, dropping out Disciple squads, in this case named Falschirmgrenadiere:

Flaschirmgrenadiere A: 12 Disciples with Vox, Plasma gun and a Heavy Stubber team

Falschrimgrenadiere B: 12 Disciples with Vox, Plasma gun and a Heavy Stubber team

The third part of the army are the Feldjäger, (Marauder Squads) which serve as recon squads for the army.

Auge Squad: 5 Feldjäger 2 Sniperrifles

Ohr Squad: 5 Feldjäger 2 Sniperrifles

The heavy support section will be filled by the non finished Leman russes in the background.

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" What do you mean Commisar? Under Attack? Behind the frontline 14 Kliks? What? Who are you? GUARDS to [muffled noises] " Last Vox Message from PDF Commander Alonze de Galas. Suspected to be killed by Traitors within his ranks, albeit the Inquisitor suspects, a victim of the Falschirmgrenadier units. Is this even possible? To bypass any detection, drop a Team and then just proceed to eliminate a VIP? Personal log Acolyte Renauld.

So first off thanks for the nice words, these here are WIP (well mostly done, only some gubbins left but he, still WIP) Falschirmgrenadier units. The Squad consists off a Vox carrier, A heavy stubber team with additional ammo, aswell as a Officer and a Plasmagun carrier.

So, it is friday and i had some time for myself, now this little guy here, i would like to introduce you:

"What we know about Meinels second in command? Well his name is Graff, civilian life rather unremarkable, was drafted and showed talent in military matters. His career in the Guard certainly however was exceptional, showing leadership, ingeniuety and a calm under fire that only was described as outstanding." Acolyte Alvarez to Inquisitor Grenault in a meeting

So this here is Graff, Oberst Graff, a rather peculiar beeing, mostly silent, to the point were his troops sometimes question if he got his tongue cut out.

Ofcourse he is also the leader of the other Falschirmgrenadier Squad which is similarly equipped to the first, beyond of course Graff:

Did i mention that i really like heavy stubbers? Or grenades?

Here are the full 12 Falschirmgrenadiere (run as Disciples) :

I also made some better pictures of the Panzerfüsiliere that serve as bodyguards for Meinel, aswell as the Improvised Chimera that at one time was a broken Basilisk:

Lastly here is the whole Progress done by me over the last week:

With that said, i will soon post my list and i might need a little help to decide to get the list up to 2000pts whilest also fitting the theme of a Mechanized army made up of Veterans, so feel free to either PM me or comment on here.

Have a nice weekend.

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Why apologise?
I kinda feel the urge for more grenade aswell as some stabby bitz, hand x pi i have around 1500pts, probably slightly more, i am seriously considering either a wyvern or a hydra, probably another leman russ? I have no idea.

Will you be adding Support Squads or would they fall outside of your veteran theme?

Well, i have a whole traitor PDF allready which serves as recruiting fields for my 31. In essence it's a wild Variation of FW r&h (2 stubber teams 5 enforcers and a command squad) cadians with marauder bitz, gsc units, intermixed with cultists to show attrition there, they have the support squads but that army is very much infantry centric and therefore difficult to transport.

Aswell as my good old Grent dollarhyde, leader of the AMU or Asteroid Mining Union which are basically neophytes intermixed with some admech.

So i very much have a Backup army, i also have two CSM warbands as allies, one is the soulsellers a bunch of nurgle csm ghosts that sold their soul to a Decimator aswell as mercenary warlord phyrax which leads 18 marines with 2 rhinos.

They are intended to show up later on here as allied detachments and are allready finished, well mostly.

Automatically Appended Next Post: Just to point out the traitor PDF has a size of :
80militia men
20 command squad disciples in 2 squads
20 disciples in another 2 squads
28 AMU miners (marauders)
5 enforcers
2 commanders (1 is dollarhyde, which i am quite proud of how he turned out, the other is the generic fw leader)
1 malefic Lord (a csm Cultist melee Champion that got a chaos warrior sword, i should have a picture of him in my gallery)

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The only issue vis-a-vis GEQ and those trays is that neither standing Vox-Casters nor Standard Bearers will fit if they're fully glued, but that's what magnets are for.

Tommorow.
Actually i could upload the soulsellers, but they were mainly a test to make as good looking as possible with the least ammount of time used for painting. Therefore they are simplistic.
As for the PDF, some parts are painted others are not, but in essence i aim to paint atleast 60 militia men in order to fill out a battalion.

As i said, here are the pictures of the "Abhorrent" PDF (well considering the "Abhorrent " is a rather large Space Hulk that serves as main base of Operations for the 31. would i need to rebrad them as SHDF?) Anyways here is the whole Horde of militia men including 2 command squads in the back:

of course they need a leader, (and for this "nice" person i stll need a name, one-handed-skarfaced-ugly-boy? na probably not )

These here are the Veterans, from these the mainbody of the 31. is recruited, for all intends and purposes they are run as Disciples and fill their ranks from the Militia in turn, which are the workers and population of the "Abhorrent".

Just like any society, raw materials need to be gathered and this is the job for the Miners under Grent Dollarhydes command, and when you are in essence a floating nomadic moonsized graveyard for spaceships you will get alot of these from Asteroids that either impact the "Abhorrent "or get mined outside of it. Since there is alot of Overlap in the ships shoved into each other it is a rather safe area for civilians to live in since there are a lot of Gellerfields overlapping each other making the main part of the ship into a sizeable hub for People that are either fed up with the imperial rule, Khornates, or traders, leading to an even larger need for minerals and other goods:

These men are also working in parts of the ship which are in essence most of the time not protected by Gellerfields and therefore are rather well armed and trained (experienced depends since they have a rather high attriton rate), they are also the other source of Manpower for the 31. and often times men normally fielded in the 31. work under Grent when there is not glory to be won for Khorne, however since they sometimes get rowdy Enforcers, enforce the peace via whatever they happen to have in their hands, genereally the Enforcers work in this society more like Military Police that serves also to maintain the security and prosperity of the people traveling in the "Abhorrent": Ofcourse Shotguns and Flamers are rather well liked under these men thanks to the often Claustrophobic nature of the "Abhorrent" but mining laser (run as meltas) are also usefull.

Ok Now to the CSM Warbands, First off Mercenary lord Phyrax, a rather old CSM, some suggest that he came from a Alpha Legion Cell since he is freakingly large, regardless he is a man that prefers forward plans:

His Chosen are all equipped with Combibolters, and named Immortals since they all wear what ammounts to basically the same armor:

Of course beeing straight forward and a Mercenary that works for anyone that pays up, he rather is involved or was involved in many conflicts and therefore managed to gather 2 small squads of Berzerkers:

Phyrax also has somehow managed to get the support of a Dark Mechanicum Heretek, run as a warpsmith, he is still in WIP but i am rather proud of my little Kitbash:

Then there are the "Soulsellers", A bunch of CSM that stranded in the Space Hulk and now inhabit the Region that are not protected by the various Gellerfields. Probably in search of treasures they tried to get in and get out but did not make it far before falling victim to a sudden warp entrance, their only option was to sell their soul to the Decimator they had with them: Well here is the Decimator that owns their souls and a rather good friend to the Dark Mechanicum adept under Phyrax, It refers to itself as "Legion" since there are a lot of legionaires in it, well probably anyways it seems to be rather insane.

Whilest i am normally not a fan of DG i really liked the look of the ones i got in the set box, this here ofcourse was the leader of the unlucky expedition team and is run as a regular Terminator Lord of Nurgle with the AL trait, since well, he is a ghost. Just like his men and since this was a boarding team they are mostly Terminators:

Or Terminator Wannabees:

However the Squad that was there to defend the entrance point also fell victim to the jump and are now Ghostly, Ghastly Plague Marines:

They had some Heavy support, but not even that remained untouched by the sudden exposure to the Warp in it's purest form:

Generally they mind their own buisness in one of the non habitable parts of the Hulk, however since the Dark Mechanicum adept managed to communicate with the Decimator they were of course rather welcome as fellow combatants in the war against the Imperium, even though normally the only Cults that are allowed in the "Anhorrent" are Khornates or unaligned, in order to prevent the complete disintegration of discipline as to avoid the complete wipeout of the inhabitants, which also have a rather large part of Atheistic civilians on board.

So i guess this should suffice:

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Niiiiiiiiiiice. I didn't realize before yesterday that you had a whole other Renegade army already, I thought the 31st (Guards?) Mechanized were your first go around.

Depending on the level of silliness you're willing to put up with in your army's background, you could say that they went on holiday by mistake.

I like to mix serious nods to history like Starshiy Serzhant Yeryomenko and The Motherland Calls! with pop-culture references that are, frankly, quite silly. It stops me getting too 'precious' about the whole thing and it's a nice little nod to the days when GW had a sense of humour. IMO, of course.

Niiiiiiiiiiice. I didn't realize before yesterday that you had a whole other Renegade army already, I thought the 31st (Guards?) Mechanized were your first go around.

Na i started in 5th with the outdated Vraks list, mainly because i wanted something different then regular CSM.

Depending on the level of silliness you're willing to put up with in your army's background, you could say that they went on holiday by mistake.

I don't think such a concept of holiday exists if your society lives in a Space Hulk and whilest the Hulk "Abhorrent" is only the size of a small moon, that is plenty enough room for a decent population which needs to be fed and trained in order to survive the Hulk, ergo the PDF (the army you seen today in my post) are basically conscripted men and asteroid miners which serve to maintain the ship and or build a City within it. The 31. is basically a conglomerate laid toghether before their "treason" in order to defend the Refugees / Regiments itself from destruction by Ork, they took over a planetary System, turned to Khorne and took over the spacehulk which they now use as a Hive/ Battleship carrier, in order to get out of the grasp of the IoM. (kind of like Migratiing warband/horde actually come to think of it)

I belive the mere fact that Flags and Vox are omnipresent, even on the militia is silly enough considering that they are basically what ammounts to a bunch of workers, shopkeeps and pissed off Asteroid miners.

Probably it doesn't, but I've never felt overly constrained by the nebulous bounds of 40K canon, such as it is. Especially if it means I can fit in a silly pop-culture reference. Going on holiday by mistake, FYI, is a reference to a cult British movie called Withnail & I.

So really they're more a like Naval Defence Force/Kreigsmarine with some press-ganged 'recruits'? Ratings, are they called?

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Excommunicatus wrote:Probably it doesn't, but I've never felt overly constrained by the nebulous bounds of 40K canon, such as it is. Especially if it means I can fit in a silly pop-culture reference. Going on holiday by mistake, FYI, is a reference to a cult British movie called Withnail & I.

So really they're more a like Naval Defence Force/Kreigsmarine with some press-ganged 'recruits'? Ratings, are they called?

Did not get the reference but I blame my cultural background,then again i might make some " Soldat Läppli " references which most non swiss won't get.

As for what they are, think of them as a cross between a militia army, attritioned regular units, rioteers, volunteers and conscripts in a space naval setting.

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So they wander the stars inflicting Khorne's wrath? That's a fairly tragic-romantic backstory, if correct. I approve.

I hadn't heard of the Soldat Läppl and since all the google results are in German which I haven't studied or used in nearly fifteen years I still don't really know what they are/were.

See, if I was Swiss, I'd work in a reference to that time Switzerland accidentally invaded Liechtenstein a few years ago. But again, I like silliness and real-life references. Your mileage may vary and, for clarity, I'm not trying to tell what you should do.

Soldat Läppli is a commedy that is and was also a reaction against the rather authoritarian and order oriented Swiss military whilest also pointing out flaws within the army. It basically has as protagonist said Soldat Läppli, which btw is allready a hint in the name for it's rather comical nature, and true to his name the Soldat Läppli is rather peculiar beeing somewhere in the terrain of incompetent, well meaning and a true horror for his superiors. Btw Läppli has ties to Lappie, which means a dumb/ unhandily person but in a somewhat friendly way.

Also even if you could German, the film is in swiss german, a whole other beast, to the point even our relatives generally struggle.

As for the whole Lichtenstein incident, let's just say that we invaded them multiple times, gotta keep the monarchists in line. (Mind you Direct- democracy is probably one of the most radical structures and ideologies out there and for swiss identity rather important for distinction especially torwards "brother" nationalities.) BTW, we also shelled them with artillery and i know from atleast one incident that is non public that was a violation of germanies border. Then again so long nothing happens no harm done.
(Probably would trigger Steinbrück though, that donkey threatened us with cavallery for beeing a tax haven, meanwhile he ignored Jersey or Monacco or Delaware)

I could probably also work in the "swabian war" which is memeworthy in itself. Better yet the Neuenburger handel, or better known as " That one time Switzerland was threatening and winning against prussia"
That one is remarkably memeworthy.

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Now the question, how should i go about to fill up the army to 2'000pts. I personally thought 'd buy myself some Hellverin Amirigers mainly because they'd fit the mobile theme, but i kinda can accomplish the same with exterminator / punisher leman russes, i also would like to add in some field artillery and thought about Quadlaunchers / Earthshaker batteries, however considering how expensive they are i wonder if there would be some decent replacement options.

Anyways i guess next update will be some of my abmissal painting so until then.

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The quality is great, i have probably in total only needed like 5 minutes to clean them before glueing them, the Resin they use is not britlle like FW's resin (IMPLEMENT LOUD SCREAMING OF HORROR AND DISMAY WHILEST BUILDING THE FETHING DECIMATOR) and the price (especially their shipping policy) is 1A.

The quality is great, i have probably in total only needed like 5 minutes to clean them before glueing them, the Resin they use is not britlle like FW's resin (IMPLEMENT LOUD SCREAMING OF HORROR AND DISMAY WHILEST BUILDING THE FETHING DECIMATOR) and the price (especially their shipping policy) is 1A.

Sadly I stick in line with GW's models solely because I plan to go to larger events in the future, where the model policies are more stringent... but yes, these look excellent. I would probably use them as cultists

Excommunicatus wrote:So, roughly speaking, is the cost of assembling a squad using Anvil bitz comparable to buying a Catachan or Cadian box from GW?

I made the mistake of looking at ushanka heads again...

Ehm, yes actually for me atleast , it is a fair deal, generally they have their "custom builders" which are worth it, i payed for the 5x12 dudes around 241 Euro with the equipment i wanted, with the look i wanted.The whole infantery base i have probably cost me around 350 Euro with the HWT's Squad and the marauders beeing buitl completely seperately without a builder for which ammounts to 70 models for that price.

For 70 IG dudes i pay 29x7 CHF + 2 x39 CHF+ 28CHF which would be 309 CHF but not equipped as i would want them. Shipping is free after a relative small ammount so i don't mind the price.

Hmm. It seems a unit made of Anvil parts would cost me $6 more than the Cadian box does, without a Vox-Caster, Special Weapons, Heavy Weapons or Grenades. It's unclear whether that includes the VAT discount for not being a non-EU resident, though. I'd wager it doesn't but I can't be sure.

With a 20% VAT discount on the quoted price, they'd work out roughly $3 cheaper than Cadians and then I'd need to pay extra for Vox-Casters et al. It's tempting.

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Excommunicatus wrote:Hmm. It seems a unit made of Anvil parts would cost me $6 more than the Cadian box does, without a Vox-Caster, Special Weapons, Heavy Weapons or Grenades. It's unclear whether that includes the VAT discount for not being a non-EU resident, though. I'd wager it doesn't but I can't be sure.

With a 20% VAT discount on the quoted price, they'd work out roughly $3 cheaper than Cadians and then I'd need to pay extra for Vox-Casters et al. It's tempting.

IMPORTANT:
Do not use single orders to completly make the units, instead use the platoon builder, since all stuff in there is cheaper, like Voxes etc.

Edit: You could also just take the heads you 'd like and put them on Cadian sized bodies.

The quality is great, i have probably in total only needed like 5 minutes to clean them before glueing them, the Resin they use is not britlle like FW's resin (IMPLEMENT LOUD SCREAMING OF HORROR AND DISMAY WHILEST BUILDING THE FETHING DECIMATOR) and the price (especially their shipping policy) is 1A.

Sadly I stick in line with GW's models solely because I plan to go to larger events in the future, where the model policies are more stringent... but yes, these look excellent. I would probably use them as cultists

I am more of a laid back guy but yeah if you go to events it's prob better to stick with the GW/FW line, however the quality of their Resin is , questionable at best for such a company and simply unaceptable oftentimes at worst, i was working around 3 Hours on one shoulder of the Decimator i posted here to simply make the armor plates fit...

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