there's this new copy-protection with audio-cds which are not playable in computers. you can backup them with cloneCD but then there's no sound. i also tried with an image first. has anyone an idea how to backup these?

Here are 2 sollutions 1 If you want to rip it try cdrwin with sector mode and a plextor drive if you use a plexwriter 24/10/40A than better use TLA#0000. I am still not shure if the others can do it or not. But the TLA#0000 does.

If this doesn't work. then go to option 2. (If it is not working the protection could be Easy Audio Lock whith dissimulator. This is not a protection used by audio firms yet.)

Since that's the only protection I have encountered and couldn't rip with plextor drives at this moment.

2 Use a CD player with Digital out and a Soundcard with digital in. This last thing will allways work as long as your cd player can read it. My philips Discman does. It uses much battery power but it can read every cd you throw at it. Now use some program like soundforge or wavelab and here you go a perfect digital rip. Since 1 is 1 and 0 is 0 and SCMS protection is ignored.

Extra option which might work 3 You can also try the edited CDFS.VXD which you could find on the net if not then mail me. This little thing can solve some problems on most drives. This version will let your cd music files show up as waves and you could directly drag and drop them under windows.

Option 2 will always work with a good cd player but it is slow so better try the others first.