I've been a big fan of Bjoern Werner ever since this last CFB season and was wanting the Saints to be able to able to draft him when they ran a 4-3. Now, I'm still hoping they're able to draft him even though they run a 3-4. I've been trying to justify them drafting him and finally found a similar comparison to him as far as NFL scouting combine numbers go.

If Werner can't cover he can't cover and no measurables are going to change that. As of right now there are much better fits at 3-4 OLB, Werner would have some serious growing pains and considering the Saints are legit contenders if they fix their D this year, getting a project like Werner wouldn't make much sense.

If Werner can't cover he can't cover and no measurables are going to change that. As of right now there are much better fits at 3-4 OLB, Werner would have some serious growing pains and considering the Saints are legit contenders if they fix their D this year, getting a project like Werner wouldn't make much sense.

He has some experience standing up. He did it occasionally at Florida State. Also, I don't think there's a 3-4 pass rusher in this draft class that isn't a project or that doesn't have a glaring weakness. The most complete 3-4 OLB prospect is Dion Jordan and he's going to be LONG gone by the time the Saints pick.

I think with Werner and Kruger it ends at the numbers mentioned above. Werner uses his hands a whole lot better and plays with better leverage. I like Werner's initial burst also, 1.68 10 yd split to around 1.74 for Kruger. I'd probably use a Chris Long comparison before i'd use Paul Kruger.

I think with Werner and Kruger it ends at the numbers mentioned above. Werner uses his hands a whole lot better and plays with better leverage. I like Werner's initial burst also, 1.68 10 yd split to around 1.74 for Kruger. I'd probably use a Chris Long comparison before i'd use Paul Kruger.

I was just basing this off of similar combine numbers. Here's Long's combine numbers (aren't even close to comparable to Werner's because they're much better):

I hate doing white guy comparisons but his game is comparable to Kyle Vanden Bosch. Werner's rip move, leverge and hip fluidity is similar... obviously doesn't have KVB's insane motor, although Werner has a good one. Hopefully he can stay healthy unlike Kyle during the early part of his career.

Well Diab, I know you stole this H/W/S comparison from twitter and are now claiming it as your own insight but whatever.

I understand why people roll their eyes when they hear another white-on-white comparison but I think what gives this comparison validity is not just the size and athletic similarities (which are certainly there) but more so the stylistic similarities. Both more finesse, upfield pass rushers with great first step. Both have that same repertoire where they don't make many inside moves and they don't set up their pass rush with power. They are speed rushers with a better burst than long speed who just try to get a great get off than use the upfield rip or hand-chop to turn the corner. And despite both being blue collar white guys, neither are particularly interested in playing the run and neither guy is particularly relentless in pursuit when their initial pass rush move fails.

Werner's at his best is Osi. Werner's middle ground is probably quite close to a Paul Kruger type player.

Well Diab, I know you stole this H/W/S comparison from twitter and are now claiming it as your own insight but whatever.

I understand why people roll their eyes when they hear another white-on-white comparison but I think what gives this comparison validity is not just the size and athletic similarities (which are certainly there) but more so the stylistic similarities. Both more finesse, upfield pass rushers with great first step. Both have that same repertoire where they don't make many inside moves and they don't set up their pass rush with power. They are speed rushers with a better burst than long speed who just try to get a great get off than use the upfield rip or hand-chop to turn the corner. And despite both being blue collar white guys, neither are particularly interested in playing the run and neither guy is particularly relentless in pursuit when their initial pass rush move fails.

Werner's at his best is Osi. Werner's middle ground is probably quite close to a Paul Kruger type player.

Actually I'm not stealing this from anybody, at least not from any of my followers. I (@LaSportsDude) put this H/W/S on twitter while looking at who compares to Werner because I've been making the argument that I think Werner could transition to a 3-4.

I have a doc on my computer with the H/W/S and combine numbers of this year's 3-4 OLB prospects and with those dating back to 2009 so I could get a comparison. Kruger's numbers just match up incredibly well to Werner's which is why I'm using him.

I've been a big fan of Bjoern Werner ever since this last CFB season and was wanting the Saints to be able to able to draft him when they ran a 4-3. Now, I'm still hoping they're able to draft him even though they run a 3-4. I've been trying to justify them drafting him and finally found a similar comparison to him as far as NFL scouting combine numbers go.