breeding question

I was wondering if my female and male get stuck together multiple times during the same heat will it increase the number of puppies vs just getting stuck once time. I was trying to skip this heat but my daughter didn't know we were trying to keep them apart and she let them get together. My husband says the damage is done now so you can stop trying to keep them apart but I wasn't sure if letting them do it more would result in even more puppies. Does anyone know. I am a responsible breeder believe it or not and I was trying to give our female a break this heat but I think its too late now but I thought that if I could at least keep the number of pups to a minimum then that would be less stressful for the mom. I am not interested in hearing all the reasons I shouldn't be breeding yada yada because I have done the research and I take great care of my dogs so dont be quick to judge and bash me.

I have researched the genetics, whelping, anything and everything about my breed that I can find and talked with my vet which Ive made sure my dogs are of good conformation, quality and temperment(aka worthy of being bred).

Blah Blah I am not going to defend myself further I know what kind of a breeder I am and I just wanted to know if anyone could answer this one question for me because I haven't been able to find any information about it just stuff about the female having the eggs and controlls the number and how they could become pregnant by more than one male in the same heat which leads me to believe that the more times they become tied would lead to more puppies possibly but I haven't been able to find anything concrete.

"I am a responsible breeder believe it or not and I was trying to give our female a break this heat but I think its too late now but I thought that if I could at least keep the number of pups to a minimum then that would be less stressful for the mom."

If you were THAT responsible, you would have put her in an x-pen and made dang sure that no male could get to her...period. You are supposed to warn people, even if with a sign on the door of the x-pen, that you do not want her around any intact males.

Calling me irresponsible and telling me to spay doesn't answer my question and isnt helpful, I already read the post for the posted link and it didnt answer my question.I already made it clear that I know that much about how it works. I am sure that i am wasting my time here because all of you breeders are judgmental and hypocriticaland, probably have even less knowledge than I do in the first place.

justsomechick - Welcome to the internet. You posted on a board that is not limited to breeders, so please don't assume that everyone here breeds.

If I knew the answer to your question, I would tell you, but I don't.

Please bear in mind that using terminology like "female and male get stuck together" does not make you appear like an expert. What you post here is all we know, and I don't think you did a very good job of building up your street cred on your first post.

I shouldnt have to tell anything and everything to justify asking a question, I just want an answer if anyone has one. I realize not everyone is a breeder here, but a lot of people are and it really angers me that some people admit to breeding yet tell everyone else to spay because they feel superior.

Yes there are alot of breeders here to will complain about the way your dogs go stuck together and tell you to spay your animals. We as breeders do our best to better a breed. At least that is what a "good" breeder is supposed to do.

You are the one who say you did the research, so I would assume you would know being stuck together was a tie. Any idiot can put do dogs together and get puppies. Just like your daughter can have a baby as soon as she has her first period. The reality is from your own words and lack of correct terms, and knowledge we as assume you are just a back yard breeder, making more puppies with no health testing, contracts, or show careers.

To anwser your question, no more ties do not increase the amount of pups. In fact if you male used up all his sperm, then more ties could lead to less puppies.

It really depends on timing. One tie at the correct timing could result in more puppies than two tie's with bad timing. Unless you are progesterone testing, 2 tie's puts the odds of correct timing on your side which could lead to the eggs being fertilized before they are past their prime. A female will only release so many eggs and thats the ultimate number of puppies she can have. In simple terms, she releases the eggs and the "ripen" and then at some point, they sort of die off or become unviable. They don't usually die off all at once but one here and one there and they can ripen in similar fashion. Bred once really early before they ripen and if most of the sperm has died by the time they ripen, will result in fewer puppies. Bred once but too late after several of the eggs have died, will result in fewer puppies. Being bred multiple times doesn't actually cause anymore eggs to "appear" only increases the chance that she will be bred at least once during her most fertile period resulting in all available eggs being fertilized.

Progesterone testing allows you to know when that most fertile time is and can increase the efficiency of a single mating.

catlover dont you have some *** to take care of or something why are you on the dog forum. Your not even helpful and have nothing knowledgable to contribute, just seems like you want to pick a catfight.

** use clean language or do not post, we do have children that come here.

Why am I on a dog forum? Well, I own 2 purebred dogs who actually do what they were bred to do. They both came from excellent breeders-breeders who show, do field trials and hunt trials, and do health testing on all their dogs.

I know enough not to let a female dog in heat anywhere near a male dog so they can't get "stuck together". I also know enough not to let a dog in heat in the care of an 8 year old.

Oh, wait...apparently, I know more than you, because I don't happen to have a dog who accidentally became pregnant.

Aw heck guys, give the info and end this bashing Sometimes one tie will produce a large litter and many ties will not, but AS A RULE multiple ties over the heat period does give the optimum number of ovum the opportunity to be fertilized, increasing the number of puppies in a litter.... However, timing is everything, and multiple ties is alot of timing here... get ready for a large litter.....but remember, there will never be more puppies than available ovum to be fertilized..... Now everyone be nice

First of all, I didn't leave the dogs in the care of an 8 year old. I wouldnt even leave her by herself period. It was the first day of heat and our daughter had already gone to bed when our bitch started showing the signs thats why she didnt know. We decided rather then putting one in the kennel we would put the diaper on the female and close her in our bedroom with us so our male could sleep in our daughters room so we didn't feel mean for locking up one of them, thinking a door would be adequate to keep them apart. Then in the middle of the night our daughter heard whimpering and decided to open the door so they would quit whining. We slept through it and in the morning I was surprised to open the door and find them both outside our room and our bitch had gotten out of the diaper.