Friday, February 29, 2008

"One Night Bricking Shops"

One funny story I can relate now about Suzy was how she got a small scar on her face. One night bricking shops in West Auckland a friend hiffed a large brick that bounced because it was aimed at the middle of the window rather than the edges and hit Suzy in the face. Seriously funny later but a little difficult to explain to A&E that night when she was bleeding badly.

Says something about the casual criminality of the "animal rights" movement.

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The "animal rights" movement is also engaged in promoting the radical Veganization of society as well Trevor.

I detail it on my two blogs on their anti-Kosher inquisitions. The anti-Kosher propaganda is reministic to the anti-Jewish propaganda coming from the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Even the Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler promoted this radical veganization of German society to incite non-Jewish Germans against German Jews and other European Jews.

The "animal rights" movement seems to be doing this on a more lite version of it.

So, George you support a ban on Kosher slaughter? Even slaughter to which is also promoted in the Koran on similar diet? I thought people like you were "for" Muslims. Oops, only if it involves agitating Muslims to go after Jews. Never mind.

Cruelty to animals is an early indication of psychopathic personality according to a popular current TV programme with psychologist Latta.

However, killing an animal is not necessarily cruel. Putting down a badly injured animal in great pain may be the most civilised response.

Similarly when a hawk kills a mouse for food it is just the natural course of Nature. Similarly when man, an omnivorous species by evolution, culture, nurture, and energy needs, humanely kills sheep, cattle, pigs etc at a meat works it is just the natural course of life.

The only wording I can see in the original Jewish Torah testament that is against animal cruelty is eating animals while they're still ALIVE. Other than that, there's no wording within the Torah of damning Jews for eating meat.

Absolutely. And a ban on halal slaughter too. They are inherently cruel. We have animal welfare laws in this country for a reason, and if certain religions think it is fine to cut an animals throat without prior stunning then those religions should be mocked for the cruel and bacward beliefs that they hold. We should have one set of rules in this country for everyone - with no regard to religious teaching. Watch any of these videos and then tell me that kosher slaughter is not cruel:

"It's criminal to lecture how people like you should have government to change the diets of people whom have had it for ever since the founding of the religion."

Want to try again so it's clear what you are trying to say there? If you are trying to suggest that it is criminal for someone to argue that the government should make certain cruel practices illegal, then shame on you. We have free speech in this country (or at least we once did), so people are free to say whatever they want.

From anonymous: "Human beings are omnivorous. End of argument."

That's not an argument, it's a (false) statement. I am not an omnivore, and neither are all the othe vegetarians and vegans in the world. Are we still human beings?

"It is morally justified to kill an animal to save a human, as in putting down a pit bull terrier. It is therefore morally justified to sacrifice animals to save human lives through medicine."

I assume you are arguing that if a pitbull terrier was attacking a person, then it is justifiable to kill the dog to save the person? Is that what you are trying to say? If it is, then you have a point. If an dog attacked my dog or a member of my family, I would do whatever it took to save the life of my dog or family member. However, by comparing a dog attack to vivisection in the name of medicine, you are making a mistake. There is a lot of evidence that testing on animals (whose bodies do not react the same way that humans' do to various things) results in danger to the people who take the drug and not to mention the untold number of animals who have been killed during the course of the experimentation. It is not morally justified to sacrifice an animal's life to save a human. And that sacrifice is not even necessary.

there were no named terrorists as no terrorist charges were laid, there were arms charges.

your about as accurate as trev on this one anon. there was no terrorism,

there was an international police survelience operation paid by ures and my taxes and prob organised largely by jon white, the police no2 who is big on CIA style big brother state control of citizens, he is very anti activist and and pro strong state law enforcement.

---What about the named swiss terrorist Urs Peter Signer of aro valley wellington?

"Even the Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler promoted this radical veganization of German society to incite non-Jewish Germans against German Jews and other European Jews."

Respecting religious beliefs is one thing but as far as I know, your religious beliefs do not compel you to eat meat as part of some ritualistic part of your day. As far as I understand it, its not a tenet of the beliefs of most religions to do so either.

The true story here is that these people are so flippant about the destruction of private property and nobody seems to care about it. You guys don't either. That is why these idiots are getting away with this behaviour.

If the commons had not been enclosed, we would be farming one-eight acre plots, there would be starvation and real poverty.

Lefties' communal farms were disastrous compared with even tiny peasant holdings. But larger privately owned holdings allow a tiny proportion of the NZ population to support the country, including a swag of left-wingers bludging on the state.

fonterra sells milk and dairy at world prices to new zealanders, so it isnt helping u or i with our needs. they export milk to cuba, china, america, south america and europe and also australia. they are the 4th largest dairy company in the world and using vast amounts of nz water.

they also use coal and heaps of fossil fuel based fertiliser.

they dont respect 'property' they respect the stockmarket and payouts. fonterra isnt helping many people and it largely desides nz climate and environment policy.

how is agri farming effecient? it is energy and resource intensive, emissions intensive, water intensive and antibiotics intensive, inhumane and export based.

If you feed a tiny proportion of lions that are held in captivity non-meat diets, it doesn't mean lions are non-carnivores.

Most people eat and like meat, fish, eggs as well as vegetables and fruit. If some people choose to be vegetarian or vegan it doesn't disprove that humans are ominivorous any more than shaven-headed skinheads prove baldness is the natural state of male humans.

Read the words above! Humans are NATURALLY OMNIVOROUS. No-one said "humans are omnivores". Obviously some are vegetarians, some are vegans, some are carnivores, and the rest are omnivores.

The animal rights wackos probably think we have some teeth designed for meat eating because we are werewolves.

They reckon a vegetarian diet takes the aggression out of humans. With animal rights nutters blowing up laboratories and threatening mayhem the proposition that vegetarians are all like Ghandi is clearly rubbish.

And you base this on our teeth? I am interested what you think the meaning of the word "natural" is. If some of us do one thing and others do something else, how can you say that we are all "naturally" such and such? It makes no sense.