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Unduly respected idiots like plagiarist Mark Steyn have long applauded immigration because of high immigrant birthrates. But that’s something only a moron–or someone who wants Western countries to become Muslim nations in the long run–would do. Today’s Wall Street Journal reports that the United Kingdom’s birthrate hit a 40-year high in 2012 and that the UK will soon surpass Germany as Europe’s most populous country. Problem is that’s only because Great Britain’s immigrant women–translation: Muslim women–are having far more children than native born Brits. In fact, while the number of births for every thousand UK-born women was only 1.9%, the rate is nearly 20% higher at 2.3% for every thousand immigrant women who enter the UK. The article doesn’t mention Islam, but the religious demography of Great Britain’s immigrants is quite clear: Muslim. There’s a reason Mohammed is the most popular boy’s name among new births in England.

If the only way you replace your population is with births from the religion of terrorism, intolerance, and mass murder, you might as well just die off. It’s suicide either way, and the survival of Western civilization won’t happen. Members of Congress, now considering immigration amnesty for illegal aliens should take note. They want to not only give instant citizenship to those already here legally, but their chains of relatives and friends (whom they claim are relatives) whom they bring here will also get citizenship. They will give birth to more and more of their own and America will be less and less America and more and more Al-Amerika and Aztlan.

The WSJ quotes an expert who says higher fertility is generally a sign of confidence in the future. And, clearly, Muslim immigrants are rightly more confident in their future than the rest of us are in the future of our civilization. And that’s not counting the births to native or first-generation Muslim women there.

The number of births in the U.K. hit a 40-year high in 2012, official data showed Thursday, making it the European Union’s fastest-growing country and adding to forecasts that it will surpass Germany’s population as the bloc’s largest within decades. . . . The Office for National Statistics said there were 813,200 births in the U.K. in the year ended June 2012—the largest number since 1972. There were nearly that many births in the prior 12-month period.

Stuart Basten, research fellow in demography and social policy at Oxford University, who wasn’t involved in the study, attributed the boom most prominently to a shift in which women aged 25 to 29, among them an influx of migrants, are increasingly giving birth. . . .

Immigration also played a role. Mr. Basten said the fertility rate, or the number of births per 1,000 women, was 2.3% for foreign-born women versus 1.9% for U.K.-born women. He said that suggests that migrants are making a significant contribution to the increase. . . .

Francesco Billari, professor of sociology and demography at Oxford University who wasn’t involved in the survey, said data since 2000 have generally shown that fertility are higher in more affluent countries, though Germany is an exception.

“Higher fertility is generally a sign that people are confident in the future and the economy,” he said. “Having kids is the only investment you cannot get rid of—you can buy a house and sell it, but you become a parent and that’s forever. So it takes optimism and a good society.”

Mr. Billari said France, Nordic countries and Ireland are now seeing birthrates rise. Birthrates remain low in Germany and Southern and Eastern Europe.

Guess what the fastest growing religion and largest group of immigrants to France, Nordic countries, and Ireland is these days? If you guessed Islam and Muslims, you’re on the money (or the jizya).

The new British statistics show that in the year ended June 2012, the overall population in the U.K. was 63.7 million, making it the third-largest country in the EU behind Germany, with 80.4 million, and France, with 65.5 million. However, the U.K.’s population rose by 419,900 people in the period, a bigger increase than in any other EU country. By 2050, Eurostat expects the U.K. population to rise to 76.4 million, France’s to increase to 73.2 million and Germany’s to fall to 70.8 million.

Mr. Basten said that while an increasing population puts pressure on resources and infrastructure, it could also have economic benefits over the longer term.

“Economically speaking, having a relatively high fertility rate and a managed migration policy is better than having a low birthrate,” Mr. Basten said. “If you have a low birthrate then your population ages rapidly, your workforce—those aged between 18 and 65—will be shrinking, and you end up with many more old people relative to young people.”

Hilarious. This is the same crap that Steyn and Jeb Bush have been pimping us on.

Here’s a tip: there is NO such thing as a managed migration policy. Unless you are only letting in a few thousand people a year, there is no way you are reliably checking out who these people are, keeping your eye on them, and making sure they aren’t up to no good.

The hundreds of thousands we let in each year is not a managed migration policy. It’s a destruction of a country that once was.

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Every politician and media person who is involved one way or another in ‘defunding Obamacare’ is a willing conspirator in the open borders campaign. The defunding fiasco is meant to detract attention from the immigration legislation. Why else would Rubio be a leader in the defunding campaign, especially since the Republicans said virtually nothing about health care during the 2012 campaign, and their ‘defunding’ campaign is not accompanied by any real education about it. If they were serious, shouldn’t they be criticizing Republicans (as well as Democrats) on a local level who are implementing the exchanges?

Unduly respected idiots like plagiarist Mark Steyn have long applauded immigration because of high immigrant birthrates. But that’s something only a moron–or someone who wants Western countries to become Muslim nations in the long run–would do.

Beautifully crystallized, Debbie. As Senator Sessions correctly noted recently, the only people benefitting from massive, population-replacement levels of immigration are those in big business who seek to drive down employment wages by having a gigantic pool of readily available cheap labor. Also those who, for insane reasons known only to themselves, wish to see the transformation of the country via the death of its original settlers.

I would also add that the oft quoted farce about the population aging and thus producing a need for tidal waves of Third World immigration is just that — a farce.

Throughout history a nations demography follows cycles. The ratio of young to old rises and falls in various cycles. What has always been done during these cycles is to adjust the economy accordingly. When you have more elderly people than young ones to provide for them, those are the breaks. Sad, yes, but you don’t lose your nation over it.

A nation can survive these cycles but what a nation cannot survive is the dissolution of its original population by massive infusions of radically different immigrants. The nation must necessarily become a different nation under those conditions, a nation reflecting its new inhabitants.

Orca Winfrey (great handle, BTW): “Also those who, for insane reasons known only to themselves, wish to see the transformation of the country via the death of its original settlers.”

The reason is not unknown. It’s white guilt instilled via two generations of hippie (read: communist) paradigm indoctrination at schools, Hollywood and now government. The scourge of hippie/baby-boomers will far more damage the earth and civilization than any nuclear threat ever could.

That must be some other “idiot Steyn” you’re talking about than the one who wrote “America Alone”. His entire thesis was that we are screwed because Muslims and illegal alien Hispanics are reproducing at far greater rates than the native populations of the entire Western world, who have basically given up on giving birth. How you got that he “…applaud(s) immigration because of high immigrant birthrate” is beyond me.

As many times as I’ve listened to Mark Steyn as guest host on Limbaugh, I’ve never heard him say anything that didn’t sound more American than many Americans. I do not understand Debbie’s contention that he is a plagiarist and would throw open the borders to muslims.

Frankly, if we cannot control our gov’t enough for them to secure the border before passing any sort of immigration law, there sure as heck won’t be any such control after. Thus any so-called limits will be ignored into the future as they are now. And the muslims are in the highest reaches of gov’t so isn’t it becoming moot? Our own gov’t is bringing us to the point that we are willingly handing over the country our fathers and forefathers fought and died for. Unfrickinbelievable.

I’ve read two books by Mark Steyn and have listened to him several times while he was substituting for Rush Limbaugh. I have never heard him make a favorable comment about high Muslim fertility, nor have I heard him say ANYTHING favorable about Islam. Did I miss such comments? I have to believe this is an out of context case. Or is he a fraud who let the mask slip on an occasion when I wasn’t listening? If you have such information I would be glad(or sad)to hear of it.

J: He’s a fraud. His first book is pure plagiarism (includes some of my funny lines he stole from my columns), and he wrote a column promoting and praising immigrants, immigration, and their fertility. Wake up on him. He’s a two-faced phony. DS

Just to add to what Orca said, I know some of the conspiracy nutters out there read this website so I’ll lay this on the table:

Israel often gets a bad rap about its immigration policy when compared to other Western nations which is bovine sheep dip. Israel is a tiny country that cannot afford to play the PC crap with regard to immigration. Demography IS destiny and Israel would vanish as a Jewish homeland within a decade if she began doing what other Western nations are now doing. We should be following their lead!

But, you say, Leftist Jews want one thing for Western countries and another thing for Israel. Take a look at the 1965 immigration reform act and Jewish involvement, you say.

There can be no doubt whatsoever that there exists Leftist Jews in the U.S. of A., and there can be no doubt that there are even more Leftist non-Jews in this land. I demolished the 1965 “Jewish conspiracy” theory on another website by simply posting how the over-whelmingly non-Jewish politicians voted on the Act, non-Jewish involvement with the Act, and LBJ’s radical Leftism at the time. The nutters always leave these facts out of the discussion. How convenient.

Put simply, Leftism is an enemy, whether Jewish or non-Jewish, in this immigration fiasco we face now. We’re all going down with the ship if we don’t stand together on this.

Debbie has been writing on this topic for years and has posted articles with inside information that politicians have reacted to and, I believe, saved our a$$es on more than one occasion. Last time I checked, she’s Jewish.

Isn’t it nice, coming up on the 12th anniversary of September 11, 2001 that almost everyone wants to see the “great” side of the Moooooslims?? Especially since that date they have done sweet-eff-all to show that there is a “difference” between GREAT Moooooslims and the Jihadi hi-jackers.

If you still think that you’re a moron and have NOT been paying attention. Like most of the world.

Just last month a Brit paper was shocked, SHOCKED that a UK Nationalist had a tattoo on himself of a mosque being bombed. They put out an alert because they wanted to find out who he was because he was a hate, hate, hater! Now, I don’t know much about that Brit Nationalist group but I can tell you I read 98% more stories in the Brit rags of the Mooooooslims being “haters” than that group. It’s actually 99% but I’ll give ’em an extra 1%.

Said paper now makes one PAY for their lousy content. That made me laugh. Only thing they showed more on a daily basis than Moooooslim hi-jinks were famous skanks and their many wardrobe malfunctions. What wanker is gonna pay for that??

And it’s being reported the worthless GOP WILL vote for the “immigration” bill. It’s been sad to see an eunuch group of wimps cave to the craven, pathological, lying group of Donks.

Fight, we must but if you haven’t guessed, the mood forecast for REAL Conservatives calls for gloom & doom. That’s all that’s out there.

I knew when I voted for Mitt Zombie it was the LAST time I was going to compromise and vote for a fraud Conservative. I am glad. That SHOULD have been my last time and it was. Now I throw it away in lieu of voting for the frauds because the outcome is the same and they do NOT deserve my vote!

Mark Steyn, along with other population alarmists such as Nicholas Eberstadt, Philip Longman, Ben Wattenberg and Joanthan Last, don’t have a problem with the replacement of our historic American population so long as the overall number keeps rising. These hack demographers keep warning us about a “birth dearth,” or “demographic winter,” that for some strange reason hasn’t materialized. Steyn openly argues that so long as Muslims can be assimilated (Note: Fat chance!), they represent a net gain for this country, replenishing our otherwise falling population.

Facts speak for themselves: In 1960, the Census of Population counted 178 million people in this country. Fifty years later, the figure was about 310 million. Even had immigration trends remained the same as prior to enactment of the landmark 1965 immigration legislation, our population still would be in the 230 million-240 million range. That’s about what it was in 1985. Things were pretty good then, if I recall. So I ask Steyn & cos.: What demographic winter?

I read Steyn’s latest book after America and he’s not a huge fan of immigration in that one.

Incidentally, I was listening to Mike Church this morning after a work shift and he was bloviating about “War Hawk decepticons.” He also wrote the following in February 2013:

“All you little Agenda 21ers out there, why aren’t you worried about Israel? Why do they get a free pass? It’s collusion, isn’t it? Aren’t we being influenced by, aren’t our own politicians being goaded, bribed by a foreign state to do its dirty work? Of course, if you bring this up, [mocking] “You’re an anti-Semite.” Yeah, sure I am. That’s the charge they level. That’s the charge they leveled and are still leveling at Patrick J. Buchanan when he brought up and brings up exactly what I just said. It’s sad, folks, that the great magisterial United States Senate, the most august body in the world, is now performing at least part of its function on behest and on behalf of a foreign country. Really? Seriously? Say what you will, that’s the fact, Jack.

End Mike Church Show Transcript”

We have enemies all around who don’t realize that ISLAM is our current totalitarian enemy. Debbie DOES.

If you have a birth rate of 1.9 per woman overall, but about 10% is cranking at LEAST at 2.3, what does that make the 90% doing? About 1.85? Or less?

The fact is, that we are going to see an overlap of young males in the UK in about a generation. See the afterword in the magnificent science fiction novel Caliphate, by Tom Kratman, for the reason why. Only young males matter in determining the direction of a society if the larger number favor brutal force and do not care for freedom or the protection of others’ rights. The UK is doomed, and idiots like Mike Church ignore the reason why, the potential for the USA, and desire to alienate our closest allies.

OT: WRONG. Mark Steyn is a huge fan of immigration who does 180s when it’s convenient. He wrote a whole column praising the influx of immigrants to America and their high birth rate and gushed over the fact that America reached the 300,000,000 point a few years ago. And that’s the point with Mark Steyn. Aside from being an unabashed plagiarist who has repeatedly stolen some of my best lines (which made their way into “his” book, “America Alone”), he has no real beliefs in anything and will change as the wind blows, as he quickly did on immigration. How sad that you put your faith into a fraud like that. DS

That post had one comment about Steyn. I’m a fan of Kratman, not of Steyn.

But I am most definitely NOT a fan of Mike Church, who is a Paleo-Conservative (read, antisemitic) strategic idiot. Let’s suppose that I am FOS on Steyn’s book. I will accept that. I despise Mike Church, who hates Israel and is therefore supportive of jihad. Church is a Paulbot, a Ronulan of the first order.

One other small detail not mentioned in contributing to the demise of western peoples is the way the courts hammer men all the time with support and don’t care if the men get to see their kids. I can personally attest to that particular part of the equation. So you get what we have now. 30 year old losers avoiding the “daddy” phase of life to become basement dwelling CHUD. We also have the women running around like men used to, knocking boots with as many willing drunks as possible as a way of showing their own personal freedom. Or climbing the social ladder feeling superior by injection. Just an observation. But at least the muslims help the ladies out with their new found sleaziness since they don’t have a problem with grazing our ho’s.

Gotta hand it to the Muslims. They’ve worked out how to beat everyone else and it works best in democracies. Immigrate and breed. The perfect programme. It’s a simple equation, once the numbers are there, the first CAIR or Muslim brotherhood nut the stands for presidency will get the overwhelming vote. Guess what happens after that, birthrate won’t matter as Muslims will be Americas or any other country’s biggest import.

That is why it is an EXCELLENT idea for America to encourage births among the middle class married families. That is how you win.

And, unlike Mike Church, Ron Paul, and Pat Buchanan, I believe that immigration of the right sort of people (not illiterate Mexican druggies) such as hard working Buddhists and Hindus from India, is a good thing. You want to be an American, you want to work for it, that’s a good thing. Have kids and raise them to be American too.

Debbie, nobody is stopping you or other ‘native chicks’ as you like to call white females in this country ( a term that is not correct by the way since the only native chicks are native American women)from reproducing as many children as possible. So stop with the hate of those who have children and go have children of your own if you want to do so.

The term “Native” means that you are from that country, that nationality. The Indians lost their lands and the wars. They have been conquered, and their lands settled by others. If you want to whine about things lost hundreds of years ago, add in Europe and try to get reparations for the Roman conquests, the conquests of the Huns and Mongols, and the Celtic and Germanic tribes conquests in Europe and the east. I was born in this country, served in it’s armed forces and worked and paid taxes in it for over 40 years. “I” am a NATIVE AMERICAN.

As soon as you’re born somewhere you’re a native. I’m just as much a “native American” as Sitting Bull since I was born in Pittsburgh, PA.

“Indigenous” is another matter and there’s still some debate as to who the first explorers actually were to the various Americas.

Lastly, while most European settlers in the 16th century onward might not have been invited guests, the fact that America was already factioned among Indian tribes is always ignored. Tribes fought against other tribes and had distinct territories. But because they were all of the relatively similar, prehistoric anthropological stem, then an Indian “flag”, planted anywhere on the span of two continents gives them exclusive rights to all of those lands, in perpetuity? Bull, effing sheis. Europeans got into the game and they won.

Also conveniently ignored by hand-wringing leftist, baby-boomer/hippie/leftists was the fact of incredible, life-as-we-know-it-changing advances such as the American Constitution, English Law as a base of our judiciary, electricity and painless dentistry, just to name a few. All of which, BTW, are freely enjoyed by “natives.”

It’s been 500 years, for Christ’s sake. You have casinos, scholarships, sympathy, tax-free cigs and boozem affirmative action, etc. All you have to do is avoid meth, alcohol and violent felonies and you can literally write your own ticket.

@DS ROCKS, very well put. Louis L’Amour wrote about the fact that the modern indians wiped out “the ancient ones”, and were always at war with each other. He pointed out the differences as Louis and Clark wrote about. Then there’s the largely ignored Ice bridge that it’s been discovered long ago that the Europeans were always in transit upon. But the fact that that is not widely studied and discussed is proof positive of the b.s. agendas in place. It doesn’t sound convenient to think about the European primitive tribes kicking it with the ancient ones and the indians and it’s all been found in the DNA of the bones they’ve found. Silly agendas,lol.

I was catching up on podcasts and I think just yesterday I heard Michael Savage go on about how the Finns have similar DNA and metabolic rates as the Native American Indians (feather, not the dot!) and I had never heard about that before. I found it very interesting and made a note to perhaps do some research on that as I found it funny that the Finns are known for not being able to drink much (I didn’t know that at all!). Unlike the Irish. 😉

It just shows how much misinformation the Libtards have gotten away with. White guilt (and the spreading of untruths) is a very despicable thing. It grates me like nothing else.

Thank you Debbie, for pointing out the madness in pushing for higher birthrates, regardless of which group is producing them.
More terrorists and/or lifelong wards of the state, are not what any country needs.

Immigration is to Muslims what the Trojan horse was to the Greeks. It is what will unravel these countries that refuse to question admitting Muslims in the first place. UK already stands for Ummah Kalifate. Charles will be the first Caliph.

What did Steyn steal from you? I did a search for Mark Steyn, and of the four or five articles listed nothing specific was listed, except a vague reference from a 2007 Hannity show. I would like to see a link your search engine might have missed if it’s not too much trouble.