If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

I did not say they were the same . . . I am referring to the following quote . . . The average global anthropogenic SO2 emission strength has probably been fairly constant between 1980 and 1990, the increases in some regions being compensated by decreases in other regions (Boucher and Pham, 2002).

Quoting: George B

But your interest was AFTER 1990. What happenend to anthropogenic SO2 emission after 1990?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36488183

According to the EPA in the US and like agencies in Europe the ground level concentrations went down. . . .

Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

...

Yes . . . I should have been more specific . . .

Quoting: George B

So, that's a yes...you do think these terms mean the same thing?!

Wow....

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30170064

I did not say they were the same . . . I am referring to the following quote . . . The average global anthropogenic SO2 emission strength has probably been fairly constant between 1980 and 1990, the increases in some regions being compensated by decreases in other regions (Boucher and Pham, 2002).

Quoting: George B

...

Yes . . . I should have been more specific . . .

Quoting: George B

So, that's a yes...you do think these terms mean the same thing?!

Wow....

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30170064

I did not say they were the same . . . I am referring to the following quote . . . The average global anthropogenic SO2 emission strength has probably been fairly constant between 1980 and 1990, the increases in some regions being compensated by decreases in other regions (Boucher and Pham, 2002).

Quoting: George B

OMG George...look at what you wrote before I wrote "Why is it " not highly likely"?!" And ten look at your reply to that same statement...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30170064

No matter how garbelled the communication. . . .I was trying to say ground (anthropogenic) sources were actually static . . . However, the other GROUND sulfur compound sources as the ocean are also very static as well. . . . the only greatly variable sources appears to be volcanic. . . .

Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional, except for death and taxes . . . George B

Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

Why do you guys take contrails so seriously?

Quoting: vtcw 37105744

It isn't the contrails per se but the anti-science, science illiteracy that bothers me. People ignore the science in favor of the mind numbing, irrational explanations that are counter to 2000 years of scientific progress.

Then there is the lack of complete logic:“I know what I see.” You may know what you see but you may not know how it got there and you definitely don’t know what it is composed of. “So many people argue against it, so it must be true.” That is just inane.There are so many more examples.

People just do not realize that when they see something in the sky that is an observation. The observation has value but the improper extrapolation of interpreting what they see is meaningless.

Here is an example. Uri Geller is a so called psychic. Many years ago he was tested by a group of scientists and was able to convince them he had psychic powers. The problem was, none of the scientists were magicians. Later when a magician studied the problem he was able to explain and duplicate all of the Uri Geller feats as simple magic tricks. The scientists were rather embarrassed and retracted their statements.

The point is, the scientists were out of their field and made a mistake. If you haven’t studied science and particularly atmospheric physics you run the very big risk of being wrong. But so many people fear being wrong they dig in their heels and start arguing even though they don’t realize how ludicrous their arguments are.

People really need to know that this arguments in favor of chemtrails are just bogus arguments based on fear, ignorance, and lies.

Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

Why do you guys take contrails so seriously?

Quoting: vtcw 37105744

It isn't the contrails per se but the anti-science, science illiteracy that bothers me. People ignore the science in favor of the mind numbing, irrational explanations that are counter to 2000 years of scientific progress.

Then there is the lack of complete logic:“I know what I see.” You may know what you see but you may not know how it got there and you definitely don’t know what it is composed of. “So many people argue against it, so it must be true.” That is just inane.There are so many more examples.

People just do not realize that when they see something in the sky that is an observation. The observation has value but the improper extrapolation of interpreting what they see is meaningless.

Here is an example. Uri Geller is a so called psychic. Many years ago he was tested by a group of scientists and was able to convince them he had psychic powers. The problem was, none of the scientists were magicians. Later when a magician studied the problem he was able to explain and duplicate all of the Uri Geller feats as simple magic tricks. The scientists were rather embarrassed and retracted their statements.

The point is, the scientists were out of their field and made a mistake. If you haven’t studied science and particularly atmospheric physics you run the very big risk of being wrong. But so many people fear being wrong they dig in their heels and start arguing even though they don’t realize how ludicrous their arguments are.

People really need to know that this arguments in favor of chemtrails are just bogus arguments based on fear, ignorance, and lies.

Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

I did not say they were the same . . . I am referring to the following quote . . . The average global anthropogenic SO2 emission strength has probably been fairly constant between 1980 and 1990, the increases in some regions being compensated by decreases in other regions (Boucher and Pham, 2002).

Quoting: George B

But your interest was AFTER 1990. What happenend to anthropogenic SO2 emission after 1990?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36488183

According to the EPA in the US and like agencies in Europe the ground level concentrations went down. . . .

Quoting: George B

But that is off by 40,000 to 100,000+ feet. The question is straospheric, not ground level SO2.

Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

Why do you guys take contrails so seriously?

Quoting: vtcw 37105744

It isn't the contrails per se but the anti-science, science illiteracy that bothers me. People ignore the science in favor of the mind numbing, irrational explanations that are counter to 2000 years of scientific progress.

Then there is the lack of complete logic:“I know what I see.” You may know what you see but you may not know how it got there and you definitely don’t know what it is composed of. “So many people argue against it, so it must be true.” That is just inane.There are so many more examples.

People just do not realize that when they see something in the sky that is an observation. The observation has value but the improper extrapolation of interpreting what they see is meaningless.

Here is an example. Uri Geller is a so called psychic. Many years ago he was tested by a group of scientists and was able to convince them he had psychic powers. The problem was, none of the scientists were magicians. Later when a magician studied the problem he was able to explain and duplicate all of the Uri Geller feats as simple magic tricks. The scientists were rather embarrassed and retracted their statements.

The point is, the scientists were out of their field and made a mistake. If you haven’t studied science and particularly atmospheric physics you run the very big risk of being wrong. But so many people fear being wrong they dig in their heels and start arguing even though they don’t realize how ludicrous their arguments are.

People really need to know that this arguments in favor of chemtrails are just bogus arguments based on fear, ignorance, and lies.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36488183

Great post

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30170064

What is so great about it, it is stupid. I don't think anyone was saying they fear chemtrails, its mostly a question of why, who is doing it, funding it, what will happen when it is stopped.Valid question that are not answered from you shills and sock puppets.

Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

Why do you guys take contrails so seriously?

Quoting: vtcw 37105744

It isn't the contrails per se but the anti-science, science illiteracy that bothers me. People ignore the science in favor of the mind numbing, irrational explanations that are counter to 2000 years of scientific progress.

Then there is the lack of complete logic:“I know what I see.” You may know what you see but you may not know how it got there and you definitely don’t know what it is composed of. “So many people argue against it, so it must be true.” That is just inane.There are so many more examples.

People just do not realize that when they see something in the sky that is an observation. The observation has value but the improper extrapolation of interpreting what they see is meaningless.

Here is an example. Uri Geller is a so called psychic. Many years ago he was tested by a group of scientists and was able to convince them he had psychic powers. The problem was, none of the scientists were magicians. Later when a magician studied the problem he was able to explain and duplicate all of the Uri Geller feats as simple magic tricks. The scientists were rather embarrassed and retracted their statements.

The point is, the scientists were out of their field and made a mistake. If you haven’t studied science and particularly atmospheric physics you run the very big risk of being wrong. But so many people fear being wrong they dig in their heels and start arguing even though they don’t realize how ludicrous their arguments are.

People really need to know that this arguments in favor of chemtrails are just bogus arguments based on fear, ignorance, and lies.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36488183

Great post

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30170064

What is so great about it, it is stupid. I don't think anyone was saying they fear chemtrails, its mostly a question of why, who is doing it, funding it, what will happen when it is stopped.Valid question that are not answered from you shills and sock puppets.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13916976

No substance just more insults. Can't discuss like an adult. You have yet to convince anyone that understands science that chemtrails are anything more than contrails. Which means that your questions of 'why, who is doing it, funding it, what will happen when it is stopped' are totally moot. First prove they are what you say they are then you go on.

Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

Why do you guys take contrails so seriously?

Quoting: vtcw 37105744

It isn't the contrails per se but the anti-science, science illiteracy that bothers me. People ignore the science in favor of the mind numbing, irrational explanations that are counter to 2000 years of scientific progress.

Then there is the lack of complete logic:“I know what I see.” You may know what you see but you may not know how it got there and you definitely don’t know what it is composed of. “So many people argue against it, so it must be true.” That is just inane.There are so many more examples.

People just do not realize that when they see something in the sky that is an observation. The observation has value but the improper extrapolation of interpreting what they see is meaningless.

Here is an example. Uri Geller is a so called psychic. Many years ago he was tested by a group of scientists and was able to convince them he had psychic powers. The problem was, none of the scientists were magicians. Later when a magician studied the problem he was able to explain and duplicate all of the Uri Geller feats as simple magic tricks. The scientists were rather embarrassed and retracted their statements.

The point is, the scientists were out of their field and made a mistake. If you haven’t studied science and particularly atmospheric physics you run the very big risk of being wrong. But so many people fear being wrong they dig in their heels and start arguing even though they don’t realize how ludicrous their arguments are.

People really need to know that this arguments in favor of chemtrails are just bogus arguments based on fear, ignorance, and lies.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36488183

Great post

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30170064

What is so great about it, it is stupid. I don't think anyone was saying they fear chemtrails, its mostly a question of why, who is doing it, funding it, what will happen when it is stopped.Valid question that are not answered from you shills and sock puppets.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13916976

Theres nothing to answer because you haven't been able to show they exist..and that you aren't just seeing contrails!

The only place you are taken seriously is on sites where other people who jump to conclusions believe the same things. Yet, you ignore the fact that anyone who has actually studied these subjects say they are most likely contrails. It's pathetic and sad..

Don't lie, you do fear them, and it's funny!

Of course you can't recognize what is great about the post...because you're a chemtard.

How can you possibly tell what is in any trail, and why hasn't anyone who actually studies the atmosphere found anything unusual ?!

The fact that these things don't seem to bother you is why you will always be a chemtard, and a conspiracy nut. You don't care about reputable sources of info...if someone says it...and you believe it, that person is automatically 100% right..and so are you. It's called confirmation bias.

I'm glad you people live like Chicken Little all day...every day.

Please, don't change a thing...continue to post nonsense as fact, cry about "shills" because you are paranoid, and whine about "chemtrails" because you are ignorant. It's the best free comedy on the Internet!

Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

...

It isn't the contrails per se but the anti-science, science illiteracy that bothers me. People ignore the science in favor of the mind numbing, irrational explanations that are counter to 2000 years of scientific progress.

Then there is the lack of complete logic:“I know what I see.” You may know what you see but you may not know how it got there and you definitely don’t know what it is composed of. “So many people argue against it, so it must be true.” That is just inane.There are so many more examples.

People just do not realize that when they see something in the sky that is an observation. The observation has value but the improper extrapolation of interpreting what they see is meaningless.

Here is an example. Uri Geller is a so called psychic. Many years ago he was tested by a group of scientists and was able to convince them he had psychic powers. The problem was, none of the scientists were magicians. Later when a magician studied the problem he was able to explain and duplicate all of the Uri Geller feats as simple magic tricks. The scientists were rather embarrassed and retracted their statements.

The point is, the scientists were out of their field and made a mistake. If you haven’t studied science and particularly atmospheric physics you run the very big risk of being wrong. But so many people fear being wrong they dig in their heels and start arguing even though they don’t realize how ludicrous their arguments are.

People really need to know that this arguments in favor of chemtrails are just bogus arguments based on fear, ignorance, and lies.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36488183

Great post

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30170064

What is so great about it, it is stupid. I don't think anyone was saying they fear chemtrails, its mostly a question of why, who is doing it, funding it, what will happen when it is stopped.Valid question that are not answered from you shills and sock puppets.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13916976

No substance just more insults. Can't discuss like an adult. You have yet to convince anyone that understands science that chemtrails are anything more than contrails. Which means that your questions of 'why, who is doing it, funding it, what will happen when it is stopped' are totally moot. First prove they are what you say they are then you go on.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36488183

They not care if they exist...it's all roll playing..and they are pretending to be stupid.

That has to be the case...they wouldn't insist that there are chemicals in the trails even though no one has ever found any!

Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

I did not say they were the same . . . I am referring to the following quote . . . The average global anthropogenic SO2 emission strength has probably been fairly constant between 1980 and 1990, the increases in some regions being compensated by decreases in other regions (Boucher and Pham, 2002).

Quoting: George B

But your interest was AFTER 1990. What happenend to anthropogenic SO2 emission after 1990?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36488183

According to the EPA in the US and like agencies in Europe the ground level concentrations went down. . . .

Quoting: George B

But that is off by 40,000 to 100,000+ feet. The question is straospheric, not ground level SO2.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36488183

Where do you think most of the man made sulfur comes from . . . it isn't manufactured at 35,000 feet??? Or on second thought maybe some of it is . . .

Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

No substance just more insults. Can't discuss like an adult. You have yet to convince anyone that understands science that chemtrails are anything more than contrails. Which means that your questions of 'why, who is doing it, funding it, what will happen when it is stopped' are totally moot. First prove they are what you say they are then you go on.

Interseting . . . They are proposing to cut Sulfur content for automobiles from 300 ppm to 30 ppm now at a cost of 10 billion dollars to 10 pm for another 10 billion dollars. . . while the standard for aircraft is still 3,000 ppm. . . Why is that???

"Charles T. Drevna, president of the American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers, the refiners’ main trade association, said the companies had in the last few years cut the sulfur content by 90 percent, to 30 parts from 300 parts, at a cost of $10 billion in capital improvements. He said that the proposed cut would cost another $10 billion. Because the process consumes energy, it will raise the carbon dioxide output of refineries.

Gasoline in the other 49 states can now have up to 30 parts of sulfur per million, and the proposed rule will be 10."

Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

Interseting . . . They are proposing to cut Sulfur content for automobiles from 300 ppm to 30 ppm while the standard for aircraft is still 3,000 ppm. . . Why is that???

Quoting: George B

To raise gas prices, of course. Anything they can do to kill capitalism and raise the prices of EVERYTHING people buy....

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5917739

Preferential treatment of the aircraft industry and it is disgusting !!!!! Pump prices for ground dwellers will be another 6-8 cents per gallon . . . but the airlines don't have to pay any increases . . . BULL !!!!!

Re: If you believe chemtrails are real . . . what source of information has reinforced your belief most?

Interseting . . . They are proposing to cut Sulfur content for automobiles from 300 ppm to 30 ppm while the standard for aircraft is still 3,000 ppm. . . Why is that???

Quoting: George B

To raise gas prices, of course. Anything they can do to kill capitalism and raise the prices of EVERYTHING people buy....

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5917739

Preferential treatment of the aircraft industry and it is disgusting !!!!! Pump prices for ground dwellers will be another 6-8 cents per gallon . . . but the airlines don't have to pay any increases . . . BULL !!!!!