very nice.. there is one more.. this is the one that had me pondering the question for a bit...

If I take your question literally, one way would be to be inserted as a pinch runner for someone already on 1st. The question wasn't how many ways can a batter reach first.

Taliesinrk

09-28-2005, 01:49 PM

There is one more.. however, I hadn't pondered the interference (i think runner's interference is when the runner interferes with a player fielding a ball). I would imagine that that answer would be in the same group as catcher's interference.

Meixner007

09-28-2005, 01:51 PM

There is one more.. however, I hadn't pondered the interference (i think runner's interference is when the runner interferes with a player fielding a ball). I would imagine that that answer would be in the same group as catcher's interference.

Runners interference is when the batted ball hits a runner...the runner is out and the batter is awarded first base.

Taliesinrk

09-28-2005, 01:51 PM

I don't think they would grant 1st on umpire's interference.. do you?? The umpire is part of the field of play..

Taliesinrk

09-28-2005, 01:52 PM

Runners interference is when the batted ball hits a runner...the runner is out and the batter is awarded first base.

My bad.. what's the term for interference by a runner with a fielder who has the right to the ball??

voodoochile

09-28-2005, 01:56 PM

My bad.. what's the term for interference by a runner with a fielder who has the right to the ball??

running out of the basepath. :D:

Taliesinrk

09-28-2005, 01:56 PM

If I take your question literally, one way would be to be inserted as a pinch runner for someone already on 1st. The question wasn't how many ways can a batter reach first.

That's right.. those were the seven I was given, however, the dropped 3rd strike usually goes as a PB/WP so I would imagine they lumped that into the error catagory and perhaps put a balk with 3 strikes as the 7th.. at least that was what I had in my answer. Interesting question nonetheless. I never thought about the fan's/runner's interference though.. good stuff

voodoochile

09-28-2005, 01:57 PM

That's right.. those were the seven I was given, however, the dropped 3rd strike usually goes as a PB/WP so I would imagine they lumped that into the error catagory and perhaps put a balk with 3 strikes as the 7th.. at least that was what I had in my answer. Interesting question nonetheless. I never thought about the fan's/runner's interference though.. good stuff

No, PB/WP are not couted as errors.

bluestar

09-28-2005, 02:00 PM

Technically, a balk on a three-ball count would be scored as a base on balls, wouldn't it? It would not be considered any different than any other walk.

bluestar

09-28-2005, 02:06 PM

I'm trying to think of how a fan could interfere with a ball that would result in a player being awarded first base.

Any ideas?

bluestar

09-28-2005, 02:11 PM

I don't think they would grant 1st on umpire's interference.. do you?? The umpire is part of the field of play..

It is possible for a batter to be awarded first on umpire interference. The hit ball must be in fair territory and must hit an umpire before it has topuched or passed an infielder or the pitcher. Of course, this would mean the umpire was being stupid and positioned himself inside fair territory.

itsnotrequired

09-28-2005, 02:26 PM

I'm trying to think of how a fan could interfere with a ball that would result in a player being awarded first base.

That means runners advance, but the batter isn't awarded first base. Unless the ball was fouled off (the usual reason for a ball getting lodged). In that case, it's a foul ball only since foul balls = dead balls.

Hokiesox

09-28-2005, 03:39 PM

It is possible for a batter to be awarded first on umpire interference. The hit ball must be in fair territory and must hit an umpire before it has topuched or passed an infielder or the pitcher. Of course, this would mean the umpire was being stupid and positioned himself inside fair territory.

IN MLB, no. It's very easy for the second base umpire to get decapitated by a line shot with a runner on second base, especially with a pitcher who falls off the mound (he tends to obstruct the view). It happens all the time in youth baseball where we run 2-man systems.

bluestar

09-28-2005, 04:07 PM

IN MLB, no. It's very easy for the second base umpire to get decapitated by a line shot with a runner on second base, especially with a pitcher who falls off the mound (he tends to obstruct the view). It happens all the time in youth baseball where we run 2-man systems.

From the MLB rules:
6.08
The batter becomes a runner and is entitled to first base without liability to be put out (provided he advances to and touches first base) when...

(d) A fair ball touches an umpire or a runner on fair territory before touching a fielder. If a fair ball touches an umpire after having passed a fielder other than the pitcher, or having touched a fielder, including the pitcher, the ball is in play.

Mohoney

09-28-2005, 04:45 PM

If the batter has 3 balls and the pitcher goes to his mouth, does the batter get 1st base?

bluestar

09-28-2005, 05:07 PM

If the batter has 3 balls and the pitcher goes to his mouth, does the batter get 1st base?

Only if the pitcher goes to his mouth while he is on the mound. That would still be considered a base on balls.

Paulwny

09-28-2005, 07:14 PM

That means runners advance, but the batter isn't awarded first base. Unless the ball was fouled off (the usual reason for a ball getting lodged). In that case, it's a foul ball only since foul balls = dead balls.

If a ball is hit fair and it lodges, say in the 2nd base umpire's clothing, I think that its a hit.