Colossians 4:12 (New International Version)
12Epaphras, who is one of you and a servant of Christ Jesus, sends greetings. He is always wrestling in prayer for you, that you may stand firm in all the will of God, mature and fully assured.

Colossians 4:11-13 (New International Version)
11Jesus, who is called Justus, also sends greetings. These are the only Jews among my fellow workers for the kingdom of God, and they have proved a comfort to me. 12Epaphras, who is one of you and a servant of Christ Jesus, sends greetings. He is always wrestling in prayer for you, that you may stand firm in all the will of God, mature and fully assured. 13I vouch for him that he is working hard for you and for those at Laodicea and Hierapolis.

HID1969 write: Great topic! I sit here in amazement.. People say why would GOD be so cruel etc. Well I dont think there is much to wonder about - I think its all our faults. This country was founded on Christianity and yet we take GOD out of everything.. What happened to the saying that the majority ruled? Thats hog wash - the ones that dont believe the minority get what they want. And then the rest of us suffer. Just doesnt seem fair. But you all want to take GOD out of everything - and wonder why the country is going to hell... Go figure.. I just hope that for the non believes - I hope they see the light before its too late. And for us that do believe - may GOD watch over us and help us help those that are lost find their way! God Bless you all - believers and non!

I find it funnier that "Christians" dont even know the "story" behind the last days

If you read your bible it tells you God has no control over what happens during the 7 days he gave the devil to "fool" humanity of God not existing

7 days in "God" time is 7000 years

Now ask yourself what part of that 7000 years we are in?

At this point Jehova aka God (Iehova if you want the exact arabic translation) is in hands off mode letting the devil do his thing as they BOTH had agreed to

Jesus is set to return to take the kingdom over from his father only AFTER every human alive has had a chance to accept him as their savior

So 7000 years, everyone gets a chance to say yes or no to god and THEN Jesus and God return to earth to rule

In the mean time God will not stop bad things from happening --- part of the "bet" between him and devil remember

SO you saying the country is going to "hell" because we take God out of things is funny as currently he wouldnt lift a finger anyway

Thats if you believe in the Bible

If your a true christian and are right with god what do you have to worry about anyway? When you die you wake up in paradise right?

OK I'm just wondering here. Why is it wrong for this man to post this here. He didn't twist any arms and make you read it just like you didn't make him read yours. One more thing it is a Religion Forum.

Yet you mock me. Maybe Richie, maybe you, maybe mr. yep could explain why, when no one asked, a posting like that is posted? Just fishing? Pun intended.
Do you imagine for a minute that someone who comes to this site, hoping for a date, call, relationship, what ever reason they join, is hoping too that maybe they can be brought to 'salvation' while awaiting a match. GEE WHIZ....that is why I joined! Just might find a little saaaalvation while waiting for a fellow(female)chubby chaser to contact me! YEEEUP! Note too; you BELIEVE in a lake of fire, Believing it does not make it so. Believing that Ezekiel flew to heaven on similar beast that Mohamed allegedly rode to heaven on, is not based in fact. Never any where, ever, has any fossil or even actual bone fragments ever come to light to prove (or even HINT) to that fairy tale creature actually existing. You believe in a savior and believe the savior's parent is a lord or king over all; no fact just belief. That is OK with me, what is not OK is coming on a dating site and telling us it is true. What is not OK is my government, or YOUR government telling me I MUST believe it. Two of you are American, one Canadian, want a Theocracy? MOVE to one!!! You may even consider one of the other 13 soverign countries that execute atheists.
There is no posting here asking you or Richie or anyone to bring this up. Would you be happy with a muslim posting HIS belief here? This would of course be juxtaposed to your stance. Alleged xtians like pat stoopidson, and others of

THE LOST seem to be the ones who HAVE a god but can't SHUT UP ABOUT IT. I won't discuss this(belief) here, this is a forum for chubbies and chubby chasers. Like me. I put on my profile about it yet, THE LOST insist in offending me by contacting me. How about I and other atheists on site contact everyone of you who have some serious or over the top reference to a supreme being under your pic or in the 'MEAT WANTED' section of the profile. Offended? If I told you what to do with your god you'd most likely want to bash me physcially. YET you (y'all in some quarters?) feel oblgated to try to plant a seed. Go Plant a Tree or maybe some tomatoes. If I were to believe a supreme being exists because one person feels obligated to tell me he got hit by a car; DAMN GOD EXISTS, I DIDN'T break any bones! (!!!) I'd be one simple fool. How do I expain it? He didn't hit you hard enough! (Damn you Satan, if you would have told the other guy to drive FASTER, the intended victim would be an atheist now!) One female on here feels 'desires to tell you BLAH BLAH BLAH.' Well pretend you are hot & heavy on a couch with some guy that you rrrreeeeaallllyyy DESIRE to do, madam. You will undoubtedly use restraint against this desire, won't you madam? Well, PLEASE use some restraint on THE DESIRE TO PROSLETYZE! Grow up will ya? You are an adult. BE an adult. No means NO. Are there any FEMALES who don't understand THAT? No there aren't! As for the male proseltyzers, NO means NO when the woman says NO. NO means NO when Allsofttouches says NO to 'dog' spelled backawards.
This isn't some childish, petty topic. I, as others, do not come by our atheism via some tirvial bump in the road, tragedy or work of satan(satan does NOT exist either you goofs). It is a seriously THOUGHT out process. It often involves a 'eureka' moment.
Just as there are so-called jail house lawyers or in some circles bar stool lawyers, who tell people "yeah yeah, I wouldn't take that, you got rights....blah,blah.....There are jail house atheists. They are not real atheists and will most likely, long before their deathbed, be looking for a god. Some,on that deathbed. This is getting too long, sorry. Note: jail house atheist says 'god abandoned me, THAT'S why I'm in jail. No. You are in jail because you , robbed or murdered you dip-s**t!

Religion is something no 3 people will totally agree on, i think everyone will do whatever they think is right and in the end, you find out if u made the right choice. I do believe in GOD (Father, son and holy spirit) and i have my reasons (being hit by a car and not breaking any bones and being told DONT get up when i could walk easily away) helps to form a way of faith but im not here to bash anyone by any means... How we think is just that, what one believes is their own belief, period....i will agree on 2 things i saw in this religious arguement

Theo: saying one lives and dies by their words on discussion boards, like i said..im not here to bash so ill leave it at that....but it is a good comment and very nicely put!

The young lady who put the comment up about

Living life as if their is a GOD rather than living as if no GOD existed.....I definately agree with that being put there too. People so often focus on *religion*....its not about the church or congregation or how often one goes..its all about your personal relationship! I pray for anyone who does not have faith....This is a topic where someone put it best again, some will have to agree to disagree..i HATE to disagree! LOL, have a good one!

You know some people may not be very good at expressing themselves and some people will get offended at something along the way...

But i don't agree that we shouldn't talk about what is passionately believed in our lives. If one believes that others will benefit from the love and care of the Lord and that others are figuratively "lost" without HIM... (as i do also) there trying to relay that message (even if not well relayed) still comes from good intentions.

Two ore things please (sorry so long). If one is seriously trying to find their soulmate or marriage partner speaking to each other (not on a board) about religion and politics and children and all sorts of things is extremely important in my opinion. And finally, i have no right to judge anyone and would never do so... Although my heart now is to live a good life before God i was probably worse than most here at times in my life... i have no desire to judge. i do however desire to tell you all that God is a good and loving and amazing God that loves you and cares about you. Not some vicious God as some portray Him to be. Blessings & Hugs to You & Yours, SweetLadyB

You come across as thinking that people HAVE to believe the way you believe and I was just saying they don't.

I don't think that's true. If you look back over my posts on this particular sub-forum I'm more annoyed by other people projecting their beliefs upon me than I am by people disagreeing with me.

So as a result i get annoyed when religious people try to claim that their beliefs are rational (when they're obviously not) and I get annoyed when people condemn others for failing to follow the dictats of their religion.

I think I'm perfectly justified in calling people on the fact that they think others are "lost" or are going to hell. My tolerance of religion goes right up to the point where it's projected onto me and onto others.

I am not trying to judge anyone, Theo. My reasoning is that saying you were once 'born again' and then deciding that your an atheist makes as much sense to me as being burned by fire and then deciding that you don't believe in fire. Once you've experienced it... how can you deny it.

BUT... if you've been told by people that there's fire, told how to build fire, told how it warms you... yet still have never seen it or felt it's effect... you could very well make the decision that it was just a good idea but not possible. In other words... it's hard to believe in something you haven't experienced. Most people teach religion rather than experience the touch of God.