SK also underperformed when they played against G2, if you watched the match you would see that nothing was working for them, they got rekt by timings almost every round.
If FaZe and Astralis are allowed to underperform, why SK aren't? Why you only see only one side of the coin?

If the finals they won was due to someone else's underperfoming, why SK is the only one who never underperforms when they lose?
Also I didnt say all the finals, but only the match against G2, learn to read m8.

The "underperforming" excuse is absolutely bullshit. The only time that claim has ever been justified was columbus major. Other than that, teams like Astralis, VP, SK, NaVi and fnatic, etc. had lost to underdogs fair and square. I'm fed up with that excuse.

I'm not exactly diehard, but i've been noticing how europeans/random haters are so hypocrite towards them.
I just pointed out that for teams like Astralis and FaZe they were using the excuse of underperfoming, but for SK they dont. Should not it be equal? Should be the excuse be applied for everyone or for nobody?

Double standards. A lot of fanboys tend to disregard that fact when things are going their way.
I've always found it pretty ironic that the fans keep bickering and shit talk eachother while the pros are being respectful, regardless of the sport they practice. Oh well, now that I got over it, I will keep tracking how bad Na'Vi's downfall is. :/

Im pretty happy with NaVi's downfall, I always said Zeus isnt their problem and a team of 5 stars will never work, and people kept making fun of me.
Thats the result.
As a fan of Edward im sad for him, but im happy because i was right.

i like them since 2012, when fallen used mothers house as gaming house, fer/fnx walking without shirts, so funny
when they did rape everything in Crossfire to make money for CSGO
thats the reason i can say they lost all the things that making them great, unfortunately
they stay focused over and over about these tournaments and when a tier 1 tournament comes, they choke, thats a fact bro

So you think they should win every single tier1 tournament like they were gods and the rest were just humans?
That's not how it works bro. Just like SK is practicing hard to go well in the tournaments, other teams are practicing too. Sometimes SK wins (in the majors, for example), sometimes they lose.
Nobody will ever win everything, and SK winning tournaments where not all teams from the top5 are attending doesnt make them less top5ish.

if you could read in portuguese, you would understand me...
basically:
"today we will have a big facebook text by fallen talking how much they are best of bests of besterers
krakow/cologne we will have 2 text lines of apologizes XD"
they should act like astralis, they are the most talented team nowadays but seems like they dont give a fuck about it, thats my point

I dont think SK is the best team in the world, but the top1 spot is deserved
G2 just started to win tournaments , and FaZe/Astralis are not attending any tournaments
Teams that not play, cannot be top1 ^^

>play every tournament
>> False great team because they're playing every tournament?
>win tier 2 tournament cs_summit (gambit only one tier 1, MAYBE, rest nip liquid clg cloud9 < made me laugh)
>> The thing is, Sk is using this "little" tournaments to play against teams that they can't play everyday,
they're using this tournament's to train...
>win a small tournament "tier 1" sidney cuz astralis saving strats and faze underperform (and optic, vici, chiefs and renegades XD)
>> Teams come and go, FAZE play very well this tournament, whin Astralis twice, and camon, Astralis play normally, why you say they're "saving strats"?
>win more one tier 2 tournament DH (fnatic top 11, clg imt mousesports gambit cloud9 singularity rofl)
>> The thing is, Sk is using this "little" tournaments to play against teams that they can't play everyday,
they're using this tournament's to train...
>top 1, even rest of top 5 doenst care about tier 2 tournaments, make br DMG donkeys happy
>> i dont know, but G2 won a dreamhack recently, and a tournament 2x2...
>they spam hltv
>> This is true, but this is how br used to work on internet, and guess what, you're doing the same thing with this post!!!
>>>get REKT by G2 real tier 1 team in a real competitive match at pro league
>>>> About G2, they're really playing the best CS actually, but how do you measure they're the best? Playing tournament's against each other.
the current SK not even succeed top 3 at cologne/krakow, unfortunately
>> In this time, Sk recently change the roster and they're getting used to each other, which came to culminate with some defeats for teams without expression
So, you're wrote this entire text to try to explain why, in YOUR way to see SK is a false great team, so explain me another thing, why the currently commentators
are saying the complete opposite of you?
The thing is... HATERS GONNA HATE...
Sk is the currently best in the CS scenario? Sometimes yes, sometimes no, but they're winning official tournaments no mather "tier" they are! So, for now Sk is
the best one, tomorrow is another day and this can change... but for now think about this, you're hating them for what you think is the correct thing, and
they are totally successful in his careers, being the best in the world... what you're the best? Maybe in post hate text in HLTV... Oh no, not even this!

"they're using this tournament's to train..."
tell me the reason to celebrate like these donkeys then ?
"i dont know, but G2 won a dreamhack recently, and a tournament 2x2..."
sorry but 2x2 has nothing to do with G2 lol
at the same time you say these tournaments are to practice, you say they have best CS scenario because this, doesnt make sense bro

Well they're tournaments, even practicing, if you win, it's nice to celebrate... it's not easy win... or you don't celebrate when you accomplish something that you want?
PS: when you say donkeys you totally lose the credibility of what you talking!!
If you read correctly, i said "Sk is the currently best in the CS scenario? Sometimes yes, sometimes no". And i said, practicing or not, this are official tournaments, if you win you gather more points, so you gonna get a better qualification... it's simple math...

No mather what people do or say, when you categorize them like "donkeys" you're losing your point. Ignore the stupid comments and focus on those who are interested in a real discussion.
Man, ca'mon, i've said TODAY, tomorrow everything can changes... i see Sk, playing the currently CS that they're playing, not gonna win the major, but they're practicing, and showing us at least they're gonna do their best.
As i said in another comment, every sport and esport are made by moment's, in 2016 and in this actual moment Sk is the best CS team... But tomorrow this can change, Sk is not a false great team, they're really great as G2, Faze, Astralis, Vp once (they might come back)

Pls tell me,when did Gambit play Singularity,pls
Bo1,upsets happen every time,they lost to CLG in overtime(they are a up and coming team,pretty good results),very close,again and lost a series to fnatic ,both maps were close,one went to overtime.While they should've won both these games,it isn't like they got rekt

so much hate against SK...
ppl only hate what they envy...
if so many people like you have so much hate against a team.. then i guess SK is that good indeed...
just like CR7, so much people hate him but HE IS THAT GOOD. its a fact
same for messi or neymarjr

astralis saving strats for what? losing the next major cuz they aren't going to be lucky this time? If VP, SK,Fnatic or Faze face them in the major, there will be nothing to do with the secrets strats :P

VP already faced them at $250k Clash of Cash and they got obliterated by their stars on their maps. Go watch some demos, Overpass and Mirage wins were purely by a huge strategic advantage, not luck or something else (like bold aggression from VP at Nuke).