The Ride of the Four Horsemen – GeoEngineering and the Pretrib Lie

As I look back at what I have been writing over the past few months, I’m struck by the thought that I’ve been talking about something that we’ve been dreading for almost two thousand years:

The Ride of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

And, that was specifically brought home to me with the spread of Ebola, and two interviews that I listened to last night. One of them discussed how geoengineering is destroying the weather system that our ecology depends on. The other was about how the pre-tribulation rapture theory is such a corrosive lie.

That last one is important, because you can’t respond properly to the ride of the Four Horsemen, if you believe in a lie.

The Ride of the Four Horsemen

There’s a lot of foolishness being handed out by those claiming to be experts in Biblical prophecy. Such people are one of many reasons why I strongly encourage you to stay away from seminaries. Such places are full of foolish teachers preaching foolishness to anyone so foolish as to listen.

If you feel led to do so, I’m sure that she would appreciate any support that you can give her ministry.

Escaping Strongholds Of Satan

Now, the reason why I mention the interview with Pastor Lankford, is his description of what it took for him to escape The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Lie. David was a die-hard follower of this deadly theory, and it took the hand of God to release him.

Over the past twenty years, God has also had to reach into my own life and rescue me from more than one lying stronghold of Satan. And, that’s really what these are – lying strongholds of Satan. And, these lying strongholds will keep you from seeing the work of God, until it’s too late.

They will also keep you from seeing the work of Satan. And, that’s the other bit of what I was listening to last night.

GeoEngineering Is Killing Us

Dane Wigington is a man with a mission to stop a deadly evil that is destroying the delicate balance that keeps our ecosystems living and thriving. And, he was interviewed on the SGT Report, here:

That interview is powerful and really drives home the idea that the elites are engaged on an assault upon our planet. And, the results of that assault will be drought, famine, war and death – lots of death.

The Hoof Beats Of The Four Horsemen

Add the thought that Ebola and global financial collapse are not accidents… well …I think that you can hear the hoofbeats of the dreaded four horsemen.

If you can’t hear the beat of those fearsome hooves, then it’s time to turn off the TV and open your Bible. There’s not a lot of time left for sleepy Christians to wake up to the evil that is galloping towards us.

42 thoughts on “The Ride of the Four Horsemen – GeoEngineering and the Pretrib Lie”

“And, the results of that assault will be drought, famine, war and death – lots of death.”

O.K. – No “BABYLON” 2-day (Hooray?!)

Actually it’s not Drought, Famine, War and Death! Had to study on this one for a “WHILE” for understanding!

The “4” Horseman ARE THE “4” Dreadful Judgements of God, I mean “LITERALLY”: Jer 15:3 “I will send “4” kinds of destroyers against them,” declares the Lord, “the sword to kill and the dogs to drag away and the birds and the wild animals to devour and destroy.

Jer 16:1-4 Then the word of the Lord came to me: 2 “You must not marry and have sons or daughters in this place.” 3 For this is what the Lord says about the sons and daughters born in this land and about the women who are their mothers and the men who are their fathers: 4 “They will die of DEADLY DISEASES (PLAGUE). They will not be mourned or buried but will be like dung lying on the ground. They will perish by SWORD and FAMINE, and their dead bodies will become food for the birds and the WILD BEASTS.”

For starters – you for whatever reason left out the (“Cont’d”) part’s of the comment. Which happened to be the most telling and important:

Ez 14:12-21 > but ESPECIALLY Verse 21:

Ez 14:21

For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send MY FOUR (“4”) sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the SWORD, and the FAMINE, and the noisome BEAST, and the PESTILENCE, to cut off from it man and beast?

When compared with Rev. 6:8—

“And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto THEM (The “4” Horsemen) over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with SWORD, and with FAMINE, and with PESTILENCE, and with the BEASTS of the earth.”

BROTHER?!!! TENUOUS?!!! R U SERIOUS?!!!! For starters – NONE of the words in the verses QUOTED above are MINE!!! So – the “Arguement” is Gods, not mine!!!

Unfortunately, the comment that you are referring to was just too long. So, I had to clip it.

And, the reason why your arguments are tenuous is that you are making a connection that the Bible does not make. Just because God has four judgments that He put upon Jerusalem does NOT mean that the four horsemen are also God’s four judgments.

You are making the connection.

The Bible does not.

Yes, there is a set of four in Ezekiel and a set of four in Revelation – but, you cannot say that they are the same four.

So, my position stands. Your arguments are tenuous.

Look, we must be careful in how we interpret the Bible. The errors that are plaguing Christians today come, in part, from sloppy interpretation.

Years ago, decades, I read that it was ” a pale GREEN horse ” ! Apparently, the word green was removed from some texts. The word green has some significance or it would not have been used. One could only speculate as to what it refers to.

John, in regard to the four horseman, we do know for fact that the pale horse and rider are in operation on planet earth now.

We have visual proof of that from The Arab Spring. I personally saw it.

As you are serious, so am I.

He was seen by millions but was dismissed as a refection. The trailer is on youtube.com (video search) Fourth Horseman (death,Egyptian riots) full original video. Saw it yesterday, again. There is another trailer saying that the red horse was seen. I don’t know about that. Erwin Baxter had it on his program, The Ed show on MSNBC, saw by accident.

I am not into nitpicking my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, but the previous week, she had on Chuck Missler, a pre trib guy, and in my opinion, she was yes-ing him the entire interview. Not sure where she stands on the issue… What do you think?

You are always so gracious in your comments about people and to us commenters. I read somewhere that more than the rapture issue itself, how we discuss it says so much about the state of our souls….Anyway, I appreciate your insight (here, and in all your articles) because it gets exhausting constantly trying to discern everything I hear and I trust you, so that is why I asked. God bless you!!

Praise God for your boldness to expose the pre-trib rapture as a lie, false teaching. In this late hour much confusion and diversionary decpetion is rampant among the saints. What so many christian teachers, blogger and leaders fail to exhort and teach is that God has sent ebola and numerous forms of destruction upon the rebel plant especially America Babylon. Psalm 9:17 is simple and explains what is happening before our eyes.If one is in bed with the satanic system then they will partake of her judgments. Job 12 explains who is in total control and who is making the CDC and the other govt. leaders and experts a bunch of incompetent idiots. Fear God and do not fear man is the message of the last days for the church and we better learn it yesterday.

I once foolishly thought Christians could discuss issues and at least be close to the same assessment of reality. By and large, at least in the west, they are as dumbed down as the average non believer on the street. Either they don’t believe what is being shown to them or they simply don’t want to know because that would disrupt their fantasy world. I had eventually come to the exciting place where I realized the beginning of troubles outlined by our Lord in Matthew 24 aligned with the events of the 4 horsemen. I also realized something else. These events, the wars and violence, the famines and pestilence, and even earth quakes were not judgements from a Holy God. Not yet. These were the deeds of wicked humans acting in concert with their father the devil. It was the wrath of man and satan. God’s wrath with shortly follow. It has become increasingly clear to me that someone may just as well come up and smacked me in the face! The events cannot be ignored though the majority are trying to do just that. They don’t understand somehow that the Lord said his coming will be ‘after the tribulation’. Seeing what we see is painful and frightening. Sickening really. Yet, I would rather have this understanding than to go blindly ahead and suddenly find myself in the midst of that great tribulation and wonder what is going on! So, this is Canada’s ‘thanksgiving day’ and I will say I’m thankful for the understanding given. And I say along with the apostle John “Amen. Come Lord Jesus”.

As rabid as the fans of “trib is a lie” are and I have deep reservations that michael is the restrainer and not the holy spirit, I have no doubt now trib is a lie proponents are the ones who will cause the division and decline of the church. However, EVERYONE should wake up to the fact that judgment is coming, and there is no promise to anyone that you won’t go through at least some rough times.

I have been listening to Steve Quayle, The Hagmanns, Pastor David Lankford, and all the other special guests on The Hagmann’s show and others. I have also been reading every article of yours for the past year or so. I used to believe in a pre-trib rapture before listening to all of you. I now believe we will be here for the tribulation and I believe it is much smarter to believe this way for preparation sake-spiritually, physically, emotionally. I have listened to Shiela talk about the errors of the pre-trib theory.

Then, she had Dr Chuck Missler on last weekend and he was talking aabout the difference between the rapture and the return of Jesus. She was agreeing with him about a pre-trib rapture which really confused me. I thought maybe I was misunderstanding what they were saying. But, I think I was understanding pretty clearly that he was saying there would be a pre-trib rapture and then there would be the return of Christ. Maybe you can clear this up for me?

Agreed. Many times I’ve looked around at what’s going on in the world and thought, it sure looks like the work of the horsemen……. but what made it still a question mark was, we’re not feeling it much here in the US …… yet. The account in Revelation makes it sound like it’s a worldwide thing, and I’m sure eventually it will be. For now, the US just has these little hot spots here and there. I’m sure that’s why so many Americans are still unable to believe anything seriously bad can happen here. I find it puzzling myself, why on earth have we been so blessed – we certainly did not earn this. But the drought situation in California is one of those little hot spots: I read a couple weeks ago that some areas were so desperate that people were breaking into fire hydrants in the middle of the night and “stealing” water (an odd thought, since the Lord originally put it everywhere for us, free of charge, as a necessity of life like air – bubbling up out of the ground, falling from the sky, flowing from the mountains in torrents) — they were collecting it in whatever large tanks or tubs they could and taking it home, because nothing was coming out of the taps. That is the kind of thing you usually think of happening in a 3rd world country. That is an eye-opener, for those with eyes to see. The fire hydrant stuff was in Northern California, home to some of the most expensive real estate in the US.

I still wonder how to tell the difference between the wars and rumors of war, the quakes and famines, that will continue to happen throughout history until the end, and The End. I hear the train whistle, I see the headlight way off in the distance, but IT has not hit yet. Nevertheless I do keep in mind the concept of sudden destruction, that certain huge systems can meet their end in a single hour, and our similarity to the days of Noah when no one thought anything bad was coming.

I am struck with the similarities between ISIS and the Assyrians. From what I have read, the Assyrians were the first military force to actively use terrorism and it worked very well for them. They did such horrible things and were so dreaded that all they had to do was send messengers ahead of their armies to tell other cities/nations they were on their way, and most of the time they would just surrender rather than even try to fight. What is so ludicrous about the ISIS situation is they are such a small, ragtag bunch and yet the entire Iraqi army just dropped their weapons, took off their uniforms, and fled when they heard ISIS was coming. That is how well terror works, and they know it.

dear shock letter i was glad to know you teach the truth its so hard to find christain people these days who know the truth and will stand for the truth.the pre-trib therory is one of the most dangerous doctrines satan has devised.if you send out books or papers to i would love to be put on your mailing list.im also a pastor and stand for the gospel we must contend for the gospel which was once delivered to the saints.we must teach and preach the whole council of god.your friend and brother in christ charlie barton

Brother John look into the planned Ebola vaccine ! It will be rabies based vaccine which they are rushing thru and I think all this fear mongering of Ebola is to sell the vaccine , when everyone is fearful of Ebola they will rush to the vaccine and that is what will kill us, then the news media will also have plausible deniability , they will say they had to rush out the vaccine due to the Ebola epidemic ! And they did not forsee the deadly ramifications of the rabies based ebola vaccine , the illuminati wants to kill us off while making a profit as well as having us screaming at them for our own death so they will gladly feed our desires for our own detriment

It is funny that you have written this article today. Our pastor was going through the events leading upto the emergence of the of the antichrist yesterday. I was following along in my bible and thought to myself how we are truly in the 4th seal stage if not the 5th seal stage. I had always argued with my cell group that the people under the alter in the opening of the 5th seal was not the raptured church. I did not know where these people came from but with the events currently happening in the middle east, I think we can now assume the people in the 5th seal are the Christians who are losing their lives for their belief in Jesus Christ. More ammunition that the pretrib rapture is a lie.

I listened to Sheila Zilinsky’s interview with Nathan Leal on Saturday and was greatly moved by it. It confirmed everything that I had always believed in. It is amazing that when the 6th seal of revelation is opened, the events are exactly what will be happening soon. We have a full solar eclipse followed by the 3rd blood moon coming up shortly. Another thing that I find ironic is that Turkey is now making a move in the Middle East, just as the bible said would happen. If you go back into the old testament, the King of the North (Gog) is present day Turkey and the King of the South (Magog) was Egypt. You can see the coming Ezekial 38-39 war forming. I can easily see ISIS being absorbed by Turkey in the very near future to go against Israel.

As for myself, I have been preparing for the last couple of years, I would really like to relocate and have been working on that for the past few months, but unfortunately I am divorced and do not have full custody of my children so moving away from San Antonio TX is a difficult process. I have have narrowed my search to about an hours distance away from SA. (about 65 miles) in a small town with about 15k residents. I hope to close on some property and start building a small retreat. I know its not the ideal distance away from a big city but with my restrictions its the best I can currently do.

This virus isn’t the problem it is the lack of protection that is the problem for most. Those who are to be be slain by those horseman can do nothing except repent. I determined that the rapture was a fabrication of the enemy after a study to find out what had gone wrong in a denomination that was rooted in William Millers prediction and the subsequent great disappointment and it was to primarily give some a false hope to caused despair when it doesn’t happen. A great falling away perhaps? Have you noticed that cemetery and seminary sound a lot alike?

You’ve caused me to think in some angles that are new to me, which have helped. Two things have ( maybe supernaturally, ) occured to me. 1. WHEN the enemy comes for us in America, like they’re doing to Christians elsewhere, we need to GO ON THE OFFENSIVE. We need to NOT bug out but ATTACK !!! It makes me sick to see fellow Christians be “on the run – refugees,” running from scumbags. Those scumbags need to fear US!!! WE need to chase THEM down. 2. For guys like you that sometimes misinterpret the bible and think Jesus wants us to be meek AT ALL TIMES ( which is wrong … He wants us to kick that satanic towel head butt, ) there’s a real option : Shoot them in the knees !!! Aim for the legs. They likely won’t die, plus you’ll tie up the enemy with their commrades needing medical help !!! Huh ? Win win. What do you think John ?

And, you are EXACTLY right that we outnumber them – more than ten-to-one.

Furthermore, as someone who has studied war for so long, I know what it would take to do what you want. It would not be terribly difficult with the right number of people, with the right training – to take back what is rightfully ours.

But… and, this is the kicker …no matter how many people stand on our side, and have the right training – with the right logistics support – we cannot win without God. And, I’m afraid that God has left the building, when it comes to the American Church.

If American Christians were a moral and just people, then we wouldn’t be in the pickle that we are in today. But, the Christians of America have turned their backs on God.

Josey, you write the way that I feel. But, I just cannot get past the realization that this is the judgment of God – not just the design of Satan.

Matthew 16 lays out in important principle and idea of what Christ has given those who belong to Him to do. He also at the same time uses the dialog with Peter to show each one of us how important it is to discern what manner of spirit is working in us. Matthew 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.

15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.

21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.

23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Forgive me if you have addressed the following question . Are you teaching that we are in the Teubulation now ? Thanks , your pre trib in love with Jesus ready to die for him and you, yes you Dear brother John, friend Jim.

Truth ? Pre tribers are not evil, I continue to be baffled at your attacks against brothers in The Lord,I know that whatmatters is knowing Christ and sharing Hus love, not spewing hate. They will know we are Christians by our…..? .john 14:1-4 ( in my mind Jesus is teaching pre trib ) have a heart for us pre tribers we love you ! Jim

John, I have a question that you may be able to answer…off current topic. Recently I came across an article, I thought it was yours, however, I no longer get paid to think…hehehhe The article was about the 2 witness’s and who they are to be. I would like to know your position regarding this and whether or not the article was yours? If so and regardless of the actual article’s author, who would you give me your view point as you understand this coming from the Bible ? Thanks Jim

I am not sure if this is an appropriate time to include this but this would be the place John On 11/9/14 There was a celebration at the Brandenburg Gate it’s timing relevance to this article is interesting.http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29974950http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_Gate When this happened and the Soviet Union fell scientist left through that gate beginning 11/9/89 with the weaponized U-Varient Ebola virus and went to many countries who have it loaded into their arsenals of WMD. Look at the top of the gate. Four horses. Peter Gabriel perform at the “ceremony”. Interesting choice of artist much of his music is encoded. There are many who hang onto the pre-trib stance with clenched fists and a nastiness that they seem to be very unaware of. I post my questions about it and it is not well received. I participate in discussion because there are many looking for answers concerning this topic. I see a major disaster coming with a ship wreck and hopes of being rescued dashed on the rocks.

I usually remain on the sidelines in this pre-trib, post-trib, etc. discussion, but I feel compelled to speak up here.

Worse than either side being wrong and the possible consequences of a false doctrine here is the vitriol that spews between these camps and divides the ekklesia over a doctrine that is obviously not clear (revealed) as of yet. Shame on both sides for their dogmatism and hatred (I know those who love to argue their side will deny it is this, but from the outside looking in, that is exactly what I see), and that is from great believers whom I otherwise respect greatly. I guess we all have our issues and areas for growth.

I pray all sides to this discussion hold their vitriol and harsh words regardless of what consequence you believe one view or the other may result in creating. Focus on saving the lost while we still have time. The wheat and tares are being separated.

I tried to stay out of the debate, until I ran straight into this argument. Pretribbers consider preparation to be an act of unfaithfulness to God. I have even heard Pretribbers preach heresy, by claiming that you can take the Mark of the Beast and still be saved.

God said that He would bring a strong delusion to those who do not love the truth, and I strongly believe that this foolish notion of a pretrib rapture is a part of that. There are a host of other evil lies, just as bad.

Most of my friends are pretribbers. I love them as brothers in Christ. But, I am required by God to shed the light of truth upon error, especially for those who are my brothers and sisters by faith.

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Luke 21:36

Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Hosea 4:6

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.