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.380 ammo generally seems to be overpriced and undersupplied. Maybe they thought there was an opportunity there?

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I am not a representative of Polycase, but I have been following them through a friend that is close to the company. First, I can tell you this is by no means liberal ammo (whatever that is). The owner is a retired Army officer and very far to the right politically. I thought it interesting that someone thought that 'Green" is their "selling point", I have never picked up on that. It should be cheaper across the board. I guess the XTPs are higher, but I was told that it should be cheaper in general. Polycase is in no way connected to PCP Ammunition. PCP has been working on rifle ammo for about 3 years. Polycase is doing only pistol ammo for now. They say .45 acp will be ready for SHOT Show in mid-January. See the Article at Guns.com for more info.

I agree with CEDaytonaRydr, this is not the first crack at polymer ammo. However, I am optimistic about this stuff though. From what I understand about previous attempts there was always a problem of the rim separating from the plastic case. I have fired about 100 rounds of Polycase personally and have not had that issue. I haven't even seen any partial separation. The folks in the company have fired thousands and they say there are no issues with tearing away. From what I am told about the proprietary design it is almost impossible to pull the rim from the polymer with the force of an extractor.

Why would I buy non reloadable plastic ammo when I can be green and recycle my brass cases?

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Originally Posted by JackRydden224
I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.

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Originally Posted by redcliff

A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

But, but, BUT YOU CAN GET THEM IN PINK! John, Think of it! The FUTURE of gunning is all about plastics! Imagine when they figure out a way to attach CIA letter openers to the bullets, THEN they will have FBI only bullets! It is only the future. When the Chinese made the first gun 2 million years ago (which, given the current state things, I find hard to believe that the chinese really invented anything, I think someone else did and they copied it but until I find that hard proof I will hold off that theory for now) you KNOW they were sitting around thinking how they could make it in plastic! Now the chinese FINALLY invented plastic AR-15 lowers that can be printed from their epsons! It is just the way it goes man... The chinese invented the silver plastic discs that ended up replacing records and cassettes and then America made the BIGGER cassette and then the Chinese invented ANOTHER disc that was 5th dimensional (how else can you explain a disc that looks the same size, yet holds about 8 times as much pron?) So you see, John, my friend, buddy, pal for life, just accept it and go with the flow because they DO have friends that are watching us. Friends that still use metal if you know what I mean and they have very long arms... Besides, you can get them in pink and support the local tatas movement!

thank you thank you, yes, I have won an emmy for that...

Please no fact checking and no correcting this... :O

love your posts. cracks me up thinking about the pron in the 5th dimension.
my mind is blown

back on topic I have shot and still have some 223 that is this "plastic" case. I used it in a bolt action Savage and in a Colt AR. In both instances it shot like crap vs the cheap American Eagle and the Winchester i had at the time. The shots were about 16-18 inches low at 200 yard when compared to the other brass. I also had a few cases get stuck in the chamber, not good. If this stuff is prone to the same sticking many have associated with poly case stuff it would be very bad in a self defense situation. 380 is not all that powerful and follow up shots may be needed to ward off a perp. if the poly case acts up and fails to allow 100% reliable function of the firearm it should remain as target/plinking ammo and not for SD carry.

Most of the further discussion beyond the clear concise answer is usually people just trying to convince others that the Penal Code/Case Law doesn't really apply because their uncle's friend's cousin's son-in-law works as a gardener for a retired judge from another state who might or might not have said he doesn't think it applies to a certain case that has absolutely nothing to do with the question the OP asked.

Hmm...sounds to me like this company doesn't want us to reload. Their implication is that reloaded ammo is not "highly reliable". Whoops. That's a red flag right there. No thanks, I'll stick to Boxer/brass.

They want to really be green? They ought to be encouraging the Euros to switch from Berdan to Boxer.

IIRC there was a company offering plastic .38 Spl. cases in the 80's. Thay claimed that the cases were reloadable, and offered a hand press to do it. Anyone here remember them?

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Thank you all for your feedback, both positive and negative on our new product. As readers of Calguns.net we would like to offer you a discount code for 10% off any order on http://shop.polycaseammunition.com with the code CALGUNS. We also have just implemented a promotion for FREE shipping on 50 Round boxes of our .380 XTP ammo.

We at PolyCase Ammunition are not suggesting that our ammunition is the end all, cure all for ammunition. Each shooter will have to determine how they like the feel of our ammunition in their weapons and if polymer is right for them.

Nope. I remember those. IIRC the beef with them was that they weren't reloadable or had a very short life due to the plastic rim?

Back in the day I think a lot more people reloaded shotshells. They didn't have $22/100 boxes from Wally World back then.

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Originally Posted by JackRydden224
I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.

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Originally Posted by redcliff

A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

Hey I found a really ODD shell today. Maybe it was just that way from being in the ground, but it was a small steel shell with a primer and then a stem and a piece of plastic like a cug or in this case like a plastic goblet sticking out of it. Anyone ever see anything like that before? I will haev to find it and get some photos. It was in a bucket of lead that I yanked from a tresspassing taliban tweaker last year and as I was going through it I noticed this piece that stood out to me...

Then there was the Gyrojet firearms that had little spin stabilized mini rockets for ammunition. I actually was at a demonstration of the Gygrojet pistol and carbine that was held at the Coyote Point Rifle and Pistol Range when I worked there. No case at all, the entire little rocket was the bullet, so the firearm was very light, in fact the barrel had holes through it to allow the rocket exhaust to escape. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrojet

Then there was the Daisy VL .22 rifle that used caseless .22 ammo. The bullet was bonded to a propellant that was ignited by a hot blast of air from a conventional spring piston air gun mechanism. The system didn't produce any advantages over the conventional .22 RF system so it was manufactured for only a couple of years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_V/L

So it goes, every now and then someone comes up with some new ammunition innovation, steel cases, aluminum cases, polymer cases, hybrid cases, no cases. One of the earliest firearms was the Volcanic Rifles and Pistols which was nothing more than a hollow bullet filled with powder that was held in place by a priming disk. http://www.winchestercollector.org/guns/volcanic.shtml

As for me, I'll stick to brass cases. No matter what cleverness we possess, somethings are just not able to be improved, such as the toilet seat.

It is funny, when the plastic handguns first came out I had the same kind of feeling for them as many do for plastic ammo on these threads. Now my 10mm glocks are my "go to" handguns, of course they still are in the "go to if nothing longer is close enough" category, but definitely top of the sure thing ladder in handguns.

I know a lot of guys that have sworn for decades they would never reload, fewer these days, but still many. If Ben Bernanke gets his way with commodity prices (and all other prices), polycased ammo might be in everyone's future that don't have Joe Logic's horde of brass. Just sayin...

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