After yesterday’s interview with a former Mujahedeen commander, I was inspired to revisit him. I was prepared to meet the ANA Brigade surgeon but I couldn’t locate Mir Wais, the interpreter. I wanted to get his side of the story before confronting the ANA officer. Since he wasn’t available I opted to visit the garrison Religious Officer. He

ANA Brigade surgeon during the school supplies drop after some ANA soldiers say the convoy first dropped off some of the donations at the Surgeon's house.

agreed to bring in his revolver that was presented to him by his former commander Massoud.

As Omid and I walked to the RO’s office, I thought about the Brigade Surgeon and the allegations of him stealing the children’s school supplies. As much as I want to confront him with these allegations, I also want to leave this country in peace and not be distressed during my final days here. Last night it really bothered me, but my wife and some friends responded with some comforting words and support. As such, I will leave this chapter unfinished and go forward with my journey because there would be no just resolution. I will chalk it up to another case of corruption that is sadly destroying this country.

Major Shah and his assistant religious officer were in their office and must have been waiting on me because on the table was some Naan bread, Afghan- made cake, and empty chai glasses. He asked Omid and I to sit down and they would join us. Another soldier filled our glasses with some hot green chai. It’s called green tea due to the leaves, but it has a yellow color in appearance. In the corner, another ANA officer sat busy reading a book. Major Shah introduced him and revealed this officer was also a former Mujahedeen commander who served under the Massoud the Lion of Panjshir. I was rather excited to have two former Mujahedeen commanders in the same room.

Before we started eating, Major Shah presented his pistol to me. I could tell by the way he gingerly handled it, this gift meant a lot to him. By him placing it into my hands was a true gesture of friendship and trust. As for the weapon, it wasn’t really anything special to look at. It was a Spanish-made LLama, .32 caliber pistol and the pistol handgrip was severely worn. But it held sentimental significance, because Massoud presented this to Major Shah shortly after his Mujahedeen fighters destroyed 5 Soviet Commando helicopters. I found it ironic they used Soviet made Zeko 1 mortars to destroy the Soviet aircraft.

Pistol presented to Major by Massoud.

When I inquired about Massoud’s leadership traits, the Major could only praise his former commander. He said, “Massoud was a devout Muslim who prayed 5 times a day” and he was not only known as a military strategist, but equally known for his kindness and forgiveness. These personal characteristics also played an important role in his battle successes. When the Mujahedeen would capture Soviet-Afghan soldiers, they were treated as detainees and given an option. They could remain a detainee or they could return to the Soviet-Afghan Army and provide intelligence on the Soviet movements. The Major referred to these former detainees as “friends” inside the Soviet Army. Much of their plans for ambushing relied heavily on good intelligence reports from these “friends.”

Me with 2 former Mujahedeen commanders.

As I presumed, the turning point in the conflict with the Soviets was when the Mujahedeen acquired the shoulder-fired Stinger missiles. This weapon system was an equalizer to the Soviet MI-24 gunship helicopters. The rebels nicknamed this helo “Satan’s Chariot” due to its awesome firepower and bombing capabilities. NATO refers to it as the Hind. After the introduction of this heat seeking system and the downing of 270 aircraft, the Soviets were less reluctant to fly them into battle and by 1989, the Soviets completely withdrew from Afghanistan and the Mujahedeen declared victory.

After the Soviets departed, there was a vacuum of power and the Mujahedeen factions were fighting among each other in attempt to gain power and control of the country. This allowed the Taliban to rise to power and Pakistan unleashed thousands of brain-washed Wahhabism students from the Saudi Arabian- financed madrassas to fill the void. When asked, Major Shah said the Taliban are a much tougher opponent than the Soviets. The Taliban coincidentally is also composed of former Mujahedeen fighters. They are still employing the same tactics against the coalition forces as they did fighting the Russians.

In order to defeat the Taliban, Major Shah listed several criteria. First, the endemic corruption must be removed from all sectors of government to include the ANA. He felt there is still too much nepotism and cronyism based on ethnic tribe origin, i.e.Tajik, Hazara, Pashtun. The second factor is the people are not satisfied with the current government and they must unify. Unity is the key and he repeated this theme several times. Then he shocked me with his next statement. He alleged Britain was supporting the Taliban. I found this preposterous and gave him an opportunity to explain.

Maj Shah alleged Britain is playing both sides because they are supporting the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) in Pakistan. The ISI in turn is supporting the Taliban. For the next 20 minutes I defended Britain and the Religious Officer never answered my questions directly. He claimed the security situation is worse in Herat because of the Brits and that they don’t suffer many casualties. I strongly objected because Britain has the second highest casualty rate behind the United States. He also mentioned something about revenge against the United States that didn’t make sense to me. (Note: After the interview I tried to discuss this in more detail with Omid and I got the impression what he was inferring that Britain wanted the United States to lose the war, the same way the Soviets did. I recall a snippet from Secretary of Defense Robert Gates memoirs, “From the Shadows”, the United States saw an opportunity “give the Soviets their Vietnam” and they took the bait and invaded Afghanistan.)

I am still perplexed over this whole issue. There were rumors that Britain used their helicopters and dropped off the Taliban fighters in the Mazir Sharif province. But I explained to Major Shah, this is an example of how the Taliban spread rumors in the same way they allege American soldiers intentionally burn the Koran. These rumors are propaganda and only incite violence, demonstrations and infuriate the Afghan citizens. However, due to the high illiteracy rate, the people believe their religious mullahs and the rumors.

Our conversation continued and the other former Mujahedeen commander decided to join in this spirited conversation. His father was a Mujahedeen who was killed during the Soviet occupation and this seemed to inspire his fight against the Soviets. Seeing that our conversation was at a stalemate, he shifted the topic and directed his blame toward Pakistan’s interference. He detailed how Pakistan arrested the two Taliban leaders who were going to meet with Karzai to discuss possible reconciliation. He alleged Pakistan arrested them to prevent them from discussing peace propositions with President Karzai. He said, Karzai asked Pakistan to release them, but they didn’t.

So I decided to dig further to understand the political ramifications of Pakistan’s alleged involvement. This is when this commander informed me it’s not really political as it is economical. Pakistan is receiving hundreds of millions of dollars in support to fight the Taliban and their country is being used as an avenue to transport fuel, food, equipment, etc. to the coalition forces in Afghanistan. As such, they make a large profit off this venue. The commander also said Pakistan did the same thing when the United States was covertly supporting the Mujahedeen. He said Pakistan would take their share of profit before giving money to the Mujahedeen. So basically Pakistan doesn’t want this war to end because they don’t want to lose the millions of dollars being provided by the United States. “Pakistan has no motivation to stop the war or the money would dry up,” he said. This same theme has come up in other conversations, except instead of Pakistan, it is Afghanistan who doesn’t want this war to end. The corrupt war lords and government officials enjoy receiving million dollar contracts which they subcontract out for pennies on the dollar and in turn, they become wealthy. So if the Taliban can be kept at a stalemate, the millions and billions of dollars in aid will continue to flow in, subsequently making government officials extremely rich.

I’m glad I went back for the 2nd interview, but still puzzled about the allegations against Britain. This time I can’t attribute the misinformation due to lack of education, because the people who I conversed with are educated and seem to be very well informed. To my British friends and brothers in arms, I don’t believe this allegation for a minute. So please don’t be upset with my entry, because I am only reporting information from an interview. Surprisingly, this is the 4th or 5th person who has made this same claim.

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Rex Great post, great stuff here. And yet weird. I did a search today, and i did find wisps of these claims? Most i would call” supermarket tabloids stuff ” but some of what the officers had to say did have a small grain of truth. Big money, government. But Iran would love for us to fail. stay safe.

While I doubt British tactics have anything to do with the U.S. —don’t forget these regions were former British colonies. Britian has had a policy of “divide and rule” in which it sows divisions in a country to create a position of influence for itself—-You only need to look at British colonial history!.—-I wouldn’t be surprised if similar geopolitical narratives are going on….and if Iran is jockeying for influence in the region…why shouldn’t the British?

As for Pakistan—it doesn’t need Afghanistan—it can start another fight in Kashmir—and use the Taliban fighters there—-(Kashmir–the disputed region with India)—and since both are nuclear powers………everyone is likely to feel it is in everyones best interest to prevent such a thing—-One way to do this is to turn Pakistan’s attention away from war to “Nation-Building”—but with Pakistan almost bankrupt—it means more foreign “aid”………get the picture?