Whatever the final specs are, there will be little between them. The differentiating factor will be exclusives, Windows 8, Gaikai, PS+ and the like. Of course the most interesting aspect will be Blu-ray or no blu-ray and at which resolution?

It is all rubbish anyway. These website never check their sources and there have been few instances when they have got it right. The rest of the time they get them wrong which a lot of people seem to forget

i cant wait for the ps4 and the many playstation IPs. sony better have the more powerful console because the next gen console that is the more powerful will be catered to more. because sony is pushing for 4k resolution i believe itll be the most powerful console ever this year in order to render games in native 4k resolution. im also hoping to hear about some new blu ray disc thatll be over 200gbs capacity.

Haha this site makes laugh. In the other topic, where the Xbox 360 is rumoured to be more poweful, everyone is like " what a load of nonsense ....stupid rumours" and the rumour bar is so far to the left, that tree hugging democrats thinks it's gone too far left and here, it's all, "hopefully yeah!.

VG247, If you forgot, were the ones who gave news of the rumor of sony aquiring a gaming cloud company which became true a few months later. I would trust them far more than a journal which has a rumor of the opposite (article next to this one).

LOL, good spin. But if you're coming up from the 1.23TF rumored in the Xbox 720 then it's a 50% increase.

Going down from PS4's 1.84TF to 1.23TF is how you got your 30% increase.

Marketing 101 aka Spin City :D

What matters most is if this is full console TF or GPU only TF.

In the case of the PS4 it's likely full console seeing how they're also "STRONGLY RUMORED" to be using the AMD A10, so the PS4 should be on par with HD 7950M (aka HD 7850), which isn't bad at all.

The Xbox 720 is likely the CPU only, but with that being said the CPU isn't going to do much to improve the overall TF unless it's a complete beastly CPU so at best they would tie with the PS4, but most likely still be behind if the rumors are true (currently those TF put it on par with a HD 7870M aka HD 7770GHz).

I kind of hope this is true. Sony tends to have the better exclusives (and more of them), so it would be nice to be able to get those exclusives with the best graphics and also be able to play all of the multiplatform games on the same console.

If Sony makes a beefy enough console I might switch over to the PS4 as my main platform (over PC and Xbox 720).

For now I am taking this all with a grain of salt. We'll simply have to wait for more solid information.

I still find it hard to believe that MS might cripple themselves yet again hardware-wise with only upscaled DVDs where the industry is talking about 1TB+ Blu-ray discs. Though I expect the PS4's will only rate 100GB.

Dude you know better than that! MS gonna have blu ray not no upscale DVD. Every rumor indicates this no matter what the source. Another thing I don't care for these specs PS3 is more powerful than Xbox 360. So if that the case next gen so be it. Both console will look great in my living room.

How about not looking at only your own situation and preferences before commenting?

MS started stared this gen by saying the 360 could get by only on DVD, then had to make two major system revisions and temporarily tossed in an add on to compensate. And at the end of six years of thinking like that, of failing to anticipate their own much less consumer needs, they've been edged out of 2nd place worldwide.

I'm not saying that whatever they go with on disc will be a full repeat, but if they go in as narrow mindedly as they have twice before they could end up scrambling to compensate.

Whatever super power each console might have, this generation like many others have proven that power does not guarantee a great console.

I think the most flexible console with the best infrastructure for new features and with quality games will win more so than the number of games or the most hardware power.

The bottom line is, both consoles likely won't differ that much in power, because you can't make the cost difference too big and each dollar can only get you so much hardware so it comes down to "smart design"!

..and weather or not microsoft will make you pay for internet. playstation has had by far the better exclusives this gen with more still on their way. with gaikai and a strong gaming console under their belt i can't see where xbox is going. i don't think microsoft will promote windows8. they show very little support for pc and games for windows live is nothing short of a train wreck. microsoft seem to be obsessed with gimmicks like kinect and illumiroom. they have neglected the core gamers.

You might be right you might be wrong. One thing I do know is that noone on this forum knows of any facts whatsoever. I'm also a ps3 owner and one thing I can see sony doing is adding gakai to ps+ which means you will probably have to pay to use it. A lot the ps bots can disagree all they want playing online will stay free most other features will fall on the ps+ so the people always on this thread knocking xbl customers will feel like idiots when your paying for ps+ to enjoy certain features. For me xbl/ps+ are essential I don't mind paying at all to enjoy this hobby that has been part of my life since the age of 6. I'm 33 now, and will be gaming til my end of days!!

@hazardman there is a difference between making customers pay for extra features like gaikai and ps+ and making them pay to just play online which should come as standard if you have the game and an internet connection.

Well if this rumor is true I want be that happy. This is not powerful enough for next gen consoles. Now gamer rumor states: Xbox Next has 4.2 teraflops and PS4 has 3.2 teraflops which is some serious power. I hope the Now Gamer rumor is true and not this one.

So neither one can run unreal engine 4. All this talk power and they can't even run a one of the most powerful engines. I can truely see why the big pc developers are getting out of consoles now. Unreal needs 2.5. Tflops. So it's very possible we are looking at another gimped generation and this means they won't be far ahead of the wiiu power wise.

this isn't looking good for the fan boys that can only talk about power.

Then it also states Soc For PS4 = 1.84 with 2 of them x2 = 3.68 Xbox 720 SoC is at 1.23 x3 = 3.69

Also states that the SoC numbers are old. Could easily be different now.

It also states X720 at 4.2 Tflops now with 3 SoC chips = 1.4 Tflops per SoC.

While Sony has 3.2 Tflops now with 2 SoCs = 1.6 Tflops for Sony SoC.

Simple solution for Sony is to add a third SoC to outmatch Xbox 720 equaling up to 4.8 Tflops. PS4 = breathtaking machine if so.

How the hell will they cool off these machines so I can play a game without hardware issues I wonder though.

Still take it with a bucket of salt. Some truth is in every myth, but we won't know final details until they are final. Its a fun guessing game though.

hmm... I have been thinking since 2011 that 4 Tflops was a goal of both companies with Sony's 4K talk. These are not likely final until after E3. Production could be delayed as final rush to the top happens. As Sony has stated before when they make something that will wow people then they will release it. If they stick to their word there should be no problem. I personally want Sony to release in Q1-Q2 2014 so they don't mess it up with rushed console red ring. Like apparently both are doing this time around if rumors holds true.

I used to have a 360, but eventually got tired of not being able to play the multiple AAA ps exclusive. I bought a ps3 and haven't looked back. Besides Alan Wake, Xbox doesn't have anything in its stable to get me excited about the Xbox Next... not yet. Don't be surprised if Microsoft announces a brand new AAA exclusive title at E3.

PC/PS4 combo is not a bad choice at all... I will be going with WiiU/PS4. Already got the WiiU and waiting on concrete information and release dates for the PS4. My deciding factor is AAA 1st and 2nd party franchise which Nintendo and Sony are excellent with. As for 3rd party AAA games... whatever WiiU doesn't get, PS4 will for sure.

*High five!* exactly the same for me. moving to pc gaming too hopefully by the end of this month. i will wait a few years before getting a console and get the one with better exclusive (or exclusives that appeal to me) i'm not in any rush for a new console still want to play ni no kuni, beyond: two souls and the last of us.

Sony will likely support BDXL disks which have a capacity of up to 128GB. As far as I know that's the biggest standardized bluray format, though various companies have shown working drives at over 500GB.

BDXL along with the new codec will allow full length movies at 4k resolution on one disk.

They will also need at least a 6x drive for 4k so I expect it will likely be an 8x drive.

AMD 9000, and AMD 10000 spec parts will be used and while both consoles look like 3.2 Tflops on paper. Xbox 720 will be able to perform at 4.2 Tflops with Xbox 720 using Power770 cores.

Only thing creditable is SoC is mentioned. 2-3 of them for PS4/XB3. Which makes sense in a way, but still kinda off if AMD 6670/7670 are utilized. If you take away that 650 Gigaflops and drop in AMD 6760 it equals 3.228 Tflops. Which even matches his own words with both equal to 3.2 Tflops on paper.

one hour ago there was an article saying the 720 will be more powerful , now its the ps4. who is telling the truth?? or are people just milking n4g for hits?? these rumors are making my head spin lol.

i just hope ms doesnt make the mistake of not putting blu ray in the nextbox. i plan on getting ps4 and nextbox eventually. i plan on getting one of them at launch, but no blu ray will make me hold off on the xbox for awhile i think.

The live journal posting also states both are at 3.2 Tflops, but Xbox 720 will be able to perform at 4.2 Tflops somehow. Like Sony won't be aiming to do the same type of things with all of their 4K talk.

3.2 Tflops sounds about right really. Not quite matching PC's max 4.3 Tflop GPUs, but not quite in the mid-low power spec space with some quality optimization it will go a long way.

Thats it, im packing my bags and jumping ship. Anyone else coming??? Ive been the biggest MS supporter since day one, defending applauding so on and so forth. BUT all these rumors seem to be having a bit of truth. and the truth they are pointing to is that the new Xbox will once again be a weak POS. And the difference wont be minimal like this Gen NOOOOO it will be weaker by a large margin. So for now my money is going to the new PS system.