Hello, im thinking of buying a bike going for something cheap (gas wise) im a university student and my only experience is lots of hours on mountain bike i know scooters are cheap but... well i don't like them and defenetly wont feel as safe as i would be on an on-off bike. If i got this right.. there are some low cc (80-125cc) on-off bikes which have a realy similar look to dirt bikes, if this is correct are they gas efficient and if scooters are more economic what is the difference ..(newbie questinons.. i have pretty much no clue about engines ) . Thanks in advance

You really would be better-off on a Scooter, if you truly want something cheap while at school. The mechanics of turning and balance are the same - but scooters have a few advantages (namely being designed with low-maintenance in mind).

Not to mention being more "socially correct"......

After school, THEN spend a few dollars on something that tightens your jeans (other than pizza and beer, that is - but that comes later, anyway......)

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Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along now...

I agree with 'Hawk. Get a (pre-used) scooter for your commuter bike. If you still want a 'real' bike later, then get it. Try to avoid the cheap Chinese scooters, as they break often and have little to no support for parts and such.

Another plus is that scooters usually have protected cargo compartments for books, beer, etc.

I'm from greece ..which means lots of holes on the roads which makes an on-off bike much more safer.

Yahama TW200, perhaps? Not sure how that will fit your taller frame, though. If I were riding where roads were in poor condition, I would probably get the Kawasaki KLR 650 or it's smaller sibling. (BTW, I am 6'5" tall.)

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I'm a big KLR 650 fan but not sure if you have license restrictions there or not. Dual sports are great, you can drop them with only a busted lever mostly. They used to offer a very nice cheap tail bag for the KLR also. Being a student your going to want storage space, hence the scooter is always a good idea with the onboard trunk under the seat. Its nice to be able to stash your stuff without riding with a backpack. That and lockable storage that a scooter offers is even nicer. My Nephew had a Yamaha Zuma and rode that thing everywhere.

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