The purpose of this thread is to compile a list of topics that are candidates to be added to the FAQ Forum. Because a suggestion is made does not guarantee that it will be added. Also keep in mind, someone has to take the time to write the FAQ.

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2004.12.16: Cleaned up the thread, added some suggestions to the list._________________lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.

all the other options can be bewildering and sometimes appear to do the same/similar things. How about a section organized by conceptual device (optical drive:CD, CDRW, DVD; printer: parallel, USB; sound; video:console, X, FB; multimedia). Many of these things apply to applications, but what should be enabled by the kernel to support a feature?

Not sure what category this would come under? I'm working on the answer , should be with you next couple of days. RFCs invited please.

FAQ Title:
What kernel module do I need for my hardware/card?

Synopsis:
Most hardware will require some form of driver to compliment the kernel functionality and get it working under Gentoo. This driver support can be compiled as KLM (Kernel Loadable Modules).
Having installed a piece of hardware (e.g. network card) , how do I determine which KLM I need, how do I compile it and then how do I use it?

Link to Docs&Tips (the FAQ!) is here_________________Someone told me that "..they only ever made one mistake...."

I was just wondering if it´s possible to place the howto´s on this forum (with credit to the original author ofcourse) on other sites (translated if necessary), an example of this is the bootsplash howto by narada that i translated to the NedDocWiki (a dutch wiki), and if it´s possible to start a (sticky?) thread here where people can give permission (or not ) to translate/republish their work.

I was just wondering if it´s possible to place the howto´s on this forum (with credit to the original author ofcourse) on other sites (translated if necessary), an example of this is the bootsplash howto by narada that i translated to the NedDocWiki (a dutch wiki), and if it´s possible to start a (sticky?) thread here where people can give permission (or not ) to translate/republish their work.

-Robert
PS excuse my foul english.

Your English is far superior to my Dutch but I concurr with you my friend....I for one found it unusual that the [FAQ Forum] does not actually contain the FAQs But I guess there is a jolly good reason for it , maybe Site Admin/Mod can tell us?_________________Someone told me that "..they only ever made one mistake...."

I can't blame you, dutch is one of the most difficult languages to learn (studies confirm this)

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but I concurr with you my friend....I for one found it unusual that the [FAQ Forum] does not actually contain the FAQs But I guess there is a jolly good reason for it , maybe Site Admin/Mod can tell us?

I didn't mean that there aren't enough faqs here, I just wanted to know if it's alright to translate and republish the howto's on this forum.

I have just posted a "FAQ" here. As I am looking around a bit, it seems it is perhaps too long for a faq. It's my first attempt on writing a docu so I don't know really...
But I felt, it would be great if there where a doc of some kind for that task...

Maybe someone could check it for spelling and grammer mistakes, 'cause my english is not that good any more

use emerge kdebase instead of emerge KDE then emerge the apps you actually want

it's ok to ctrl-c the emerge and start it up again later (it will continue from where it stopped)

list of USE flags that might speed things up (eg -gtk -gnome etc)

point to desktop config guide?

mention other, lighter, desktops (fluxbox, etc)

I realize that these topic are covered to a certain extent in the desktop config guide but...
People typically do a search on "faq" or "howto" when looking for help (well... the people who bother searching that is )
There are several threads asking about this in the forums

I just finished setting up gentoo this week from stage1, and am very pleased. Been in KDE and finishing up tweaking my system the past few days.

I want to approach this thread from an 'advanced newbie to linux' perspective (which I think is what many of these docs are written for). I had no trouble following the excellent Install Guide for my i686, but I have had some issues with finalizing my install:

1) A more comprehensive fstab doc. How to setup a cdr, dvd player for instance? I have been searching through the forums and still not sure the best way... and usb for cameras and ipod type stuff..... there is no simple doc anywhere for this (as far as I know!)

2) A Gentoo specific (emerge) KDE install guide. There is one, but it is pretty short. How do we install fonts, 7 button mice, themes, mp3 players, cd burners, etc etc etc? Maybe a listing of emerge commands for each fave app.... again, as a guide, not a bible, so explain how to get basics like kpdf and firefox (emerge mozilla-firefox, not emerge firefox!) -

I guess, something for intermediate beginners, folks new to linux who were windows geeks. I am not expecting a guide for my mom to install gentoo. But something for us who are not linux veterans....

I guess it would be great if there were a Part Two to the Gentoo Install Doc, something that could get a user through setting up a GUI with all the typical hardware devices ready to go. USB and CDr is pretty common nowadays. But I am still figuring it out and there is no gentoo guide! I search the forums but never get just what I want, and seems like everyone is asking similar questions, all because there are no guides....

The guide could just pick one main method, and like the Install Guide, show one alternative (like with grub and grub-install and lilo). Just to get us going. Sure, there are many pdf viewers, but just show us how to get kpdf.... we can always emerge another option when we know more... show us how to get k3b, knowing there are other options, but at least if we get k3b, we are somewhere.... later, we could change the app if we wanted....

I guess, some advice on a Gentoo KDE system. Not like other distros that force you into something, but at least a recommendation to newbies... sure, Mandrake forces you to load certain apps, and I don't want Gentoo to go that direction, but it would be cool, for us new fellas, to have a recommendation....

True, most Gentoo users are linux veterans, but for those of us new to linux, and bummed at the Windowsesque atmosphere of Mandrake, etc, it would be great to make Gentoo a bit easier to get going.... (I got rid of mandrake once the nags to pay cash to join their club started showing up, and I realized maybe linux wasn't that different from windows.... thank god for gentoo showing me that linux IS different from windows... hell, I will contribute cash to gentoo, voluntarily, cause I love it and I was never nagged.... )

Again, I believe the Install Doc is excellent, and followed it line by line, learned a lot, had no clue often what I was even typing in, but learned fast, and it all worked... I am new to Linux, but was a windows geek, so know basics of coding and such, (i.e. I am not saying any old idiot should be able to install Gentoo!) - But, make it a touch easier for us typical new to linux folks to configure our fstabs and emerge and kde.... (like, for instance, I am glad I read to 'emerge kdebase' and not 'emerge kde' - )

I think a basic guide, Install Part Two, would really help new Gentoo users.... and I am a proud new Gentoo user, hoping that those behind me will have an easier go at it.... I do agree that perhaps we do not want idiots installing gentoo, like some other distros are encouraging with easy install cds, but I would think Gentoo would want to court SMART windows users, folks who are intelligent but new to the linux world.... folks who like the cli, but are not aware of what chmod and rc-update etc do on day one....

I'll take a bite out of those 3, if you could please elaborate the issue with "Can't use X apps after su." Perhaps provide an example of an app that doesn't work after su, as I *believe* I know what the issue is, but want to make sure before I say I do...

The other 2 go hand in hand...and I've already got fvwm, xpde, kde, gnome, fluxbox, blackbox, openbox, twm, and probably a few more that have slipped me memory installed, and I worked with all of them.

I spent the money and bought a high quality colour printer for photographics. Unfortunately, there were no decent drivers for it under CUPS. I checked Linuxprinting.org to find that I needed Gimp-Print to get the drivers for the printer.

Not as easy as it sounds. Understand that I have been using various flavours of Linux exclusively (no dual booting or MS on any machines) since 1996, so I felt quite able to get Gimp-print installed and start printing those photos my wife and I have been wanting to put up in the house.

Then the gremlins arrived, with a vengence! "emerge -av gimp-print cups" installed the proper software, but the additional printer drivers failed to appear within CUPS, not to mention, The Gimp still had no 'print' option.

I spent many days, for hours on end, looking high and low on how to get those wonderful drivers from Gimp-Print to show up in CUPS. I felt like the writer of every item I read about Gimp-print and CUPS assumed all would know about the method required to get the drivers to show up in CUPS.
I finally found the solution buried deep within an item about installing Windows printers via Samba.

To make sure the Gimp-print drivers are installed into CUPS you need to have an additional USE flag for the 'ppd' system of driver instructions. In other words, to get the Gimp-print drivers installed into CUPS, setup the software thus;

Open /etc/portage/package.use in your favourite text editor, creating the file if it does not already exist. Add these lines:

net-print/cups ppds
media-gfx/gimp-print ppds

Oh yeah, to get the print command to show up in The Gimp, re-emerge gimp thus;
Add to /etc/portage/package.use this line

media-gfx/gimp gimpprint

Then re-emerge Gimp

emerge -av gimp

I hope this helps the next unfortunate soul who does not have this piece of assumed knowledge

Regards, Robert_________________Regards, Robert

..... Some people can tell what time it is by looking at the sun, but I have never been able to make out the numbers.

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I think that this FAQ entry should also mention the method of just doing a

Code:

less /var/lib/portage/world

This only lists the packages which were manually installed, not the ton of dependencies behind them - those only confuse new users (well, they confused me, at least).

Certainly, this does not cover "emerge --oneshot"-packages and there are many other reasons to mention equery list, but the above was the Information I was expecting when searching for "installed packages", and I found out about this file just by chance.

I think that this FAQ entry should also mention the method of just doing a

Code:

less /var/lib/portage/world

This only lists the packages which were manually installed, not the ton of dependencies behind them - those only confuse new users (well, they confused me, at least).

Certainly, this does not cover "emerge --oneshot"-packages and there are many other reasons to mention equery list, but the above was the Information I was expecting when searching for "installed packages", and I found out about this file just by chance.