Before I begin, someone earlier stated that the AvP:Gold graphics are BETTER THEN those of AvP2. No offense, but THAT COULDN'T BE ANY FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

OK, I've been a Mac guy for a few years now. First had an iBook G4 (got stolen from my car ), then got me an Intel iMac, and finally black MacBook for christmas '06. About a year ago I remembered the good ole' times I had playing AvP:Gold on my PC. I did a quick search and OMG! there it was...for MAC...and AvP2 for Mac too!! Yoo Hoo! Each game, BRAND SPANKING NEW cost about $10 bucks.
Google "Aliens vs Predator 2 Mac" ......then click shopping......then click list by price LOWEST to HIGHEST. If an Alien/Predator/Marine Multiplayer shooter is what you crave......only buy AVP2 there is NO NEED to EVER play AvP:Gold once you've setup AVP2.

RUNDOWN OF your questions ANSWERED AND THEN SOME

1. AVP2 multiplayer = YES it is fixed! Strider1 (what's up buddy) posted a link to earlier. You can also Google "avp2 online fix Mac" (the fix is not perfect. When you enter the multiplayer server list you cannot refresh. so if the server you want is full, then you need to quit the entire game by pressing COMMAND+OPTION+ESC, start the game over and hope theres room. Same process if you wanna change servers. But hey Macplay left us high and dry, had it not been for some awesome mo-fo out there we'd be S.O.L. and stuck with AvP:OLD (did I forget the G? oh well. hee hee)

2. AVP2 crossplatform mp = HELLS FREAKIN YEAH IT WORKS! I'm a member of the STARGATE COMMAND CLAN. I'm one of two members that play on a Mac. Everyone else in PC.

3. AVP2 expansion = AvP2:Gold Primal Hunt never happened for our beloved Mac. BUT it was planned. I don't know if it is still listed, but once I got AvP2, I NEEDED primal hunt. In searching for it I found TWO legitimate sights profiling the game. One, I believe was Amazon, the other was IGN (i think). But I couldn't find a copy to buy. Further digging lead me to the itty-bitty fine print. *game never released* THEN WHY STILL HAVE IT POSTED ?? GRRR so yeah, NO PRIMAL HUNT for Mac, but as it turns out there's a bigger Mutliplayer community for the standard AvP2.

5. AVP Gold = works on OS X it also works on OS 9. Are you gonna start using that too. TRUST me they belong together. Gold passed the torch to AvP2, but Macplay left it to burnout...and it almost did.....ALMOST.

6. AVP2 hold out mode like in AVP Gold = Hold out mode? I believe you are referring to SKIRMISH MODE. *Sigh* I would get stuck for hours wasting Aliens on the STRANDED Map as Marine, then as a Predator. SKIRMISH mode was NOT included in AvP2.......But (see next question)

7. AVPG existing mods = As fellow Mac guys (and gals?) you know that when it comes to compatibility or having the 'cool' games/programs we haven't exactly had it easy. I mean AvP2 came out in 2001! It took 6 freakin for us to get an UNofficial MP fix. On the topic of having it rough when it comes to games, anyone else here a Nintendo guy/gal too??

ok, MODs. Those that work with PC work with Mac too. In most cases its easier to add/subtract to Mac's AvP2 folder system then to the PC file system. The biggest roadblocks when it comes to Mods are those that require an .exe file to install. But, CUSTOM SKIRMISH LEVELS and Single Player Levels are easy to find and even easier to install.

All you really need is Ultimate Map Pack 2. It is fairly easy to find. It's a HUGE download that can often lead to a huge disappointment for us Mac people when we find out that it installs with an .exe.....Like i sadi earlier I'm a member of [SG_CMD] HONESTLY we have the 4 best, most reliable and most popular AvP2 server in the community. We also have Counter Strike, BF2, Quake: ET, and Battlefield 2142 servers. I got 2142 for christmas but haven't gotten into it yet. All i really play is AvP2. MY POINT? Feel free to visit our AvP2 downloads section for your one stop Mod shop of free downloads.Stargate Command Homepage Click on downloads>Aliens vs Predator 2.

What you need? For a Mac all you need is the Ultimate Map Pack.rar UMP2.rar opens to a UMP2 folder. Inside that folder is a folder titled MAPS. OK, you've already installed the game. and updated the AVP2.app and AVP2SERV.app witht he official 1096 update and are now looking at this MAPS folder that has a HUGE directory of folders and files inside it.

WHAT DO YOU DO??? Simply drop the MAPS folder into your DATA folder that is inside you main AvP2 folder. THATS IT! Start the game and *SPLASH SCREEN* ULTIMATE MAP PACK 2 INSTALLED.

What does this Mean? You can now play on just about any multiplayer map on any server. UMP2 also comes stocked with the latest and most popular SKIRMISH AND SP levels I mentioned earlier.

(these DLs are cool too:
AVP2ANDPRIMALHUNTNOCDEXCEUTABLE.RAR.......can play game on PC w/o needing a CD
AVP2 CD BACKUP.RAR..................Copies of AvP2 install discs for PC (to play online you NEED a unique serial key)
MULTIPAK.RAR.......cool skins and sounds in MP
COMMUNITY_MULTIMOD.ZIP................cool skins and sounds in MP
XHANSKINS.RAR......................cool skins and sounds in MP

That is UMP2 v2. There IS a version 3. Its not major or necessary. UMP2 is effin NEC-ESS-AR-YYYYY. If you're like me and NEED you can A) find a copy of it somewhere that opens to the directory of folders like UMP2 just did. all I found were .exe files. OR B) get your PC buddy (make sure his computer has a FIREWIRE PORT) hooked on the game too and explain to him the need to have UMP2 and its version 3 update. Install it on his computer. Put your Mac into target mode (restart holding T, basically making it an external hard drive) connect with a FIREWIRE cord and drag his UMP2 folder to your main AVP2 folder.

Someone mentioned LAN party earlier?? I work at an elementary school maintaining a lab or 33 iMac G5 (PPC) I've hosted 4 LAN parties in the Lab since September. The first 3 I hosted as a NON-Dedicated (the server was also the iMac I was playing on) Though the option is there to run as a DEDicated server......NO DICE.

The Mac WILL host a NON-Dedicated LAN server with NO PROBLEM. But that's it. NO Dedicated LAN, NO NON-Dedicated Internet, and NO Dedicated Internet.

As you can tell I'm into this freakin game BIG TIME! So believe me when I say that I tried and tried and looked and serarched for a clue, a solution, for somebody who knew somethin, anything that would help me to get the other server modes running, but again NO DICE.!

ALMOST DONE!

When I said that MODS work on Mac. This DOES NOT include SERVER MODs. As it turns out AVP2 is full of holes that allow for annoying hackers to to do whatever they want. ROMMIE put an end to this with his server mod that is updated still. BUT THEY ONLY run on PC. There are ZERO server Mods for the Mac. A Mac CAN play on a server running ROMMIE, but a Mac can NOT run ROMMIE. So my fourth LAN party I installed the latest ROMMIE mod on my buddy's laptop . I also installed mods that added characters and weapons.

Whats so cool about ROMMIE? Cool stuff like enabling all weapons, IP banning jerks, he even made a special version of his mod for our LIFECYCLE SERVER. (LC= you begin as a facehugger, as a chestburster your really vulnerable and it takes a good 30 or so second to grow to an adult. We set a server rule that players not kill chestbursters so that the game can continue......a lot of jerks out there are just that JERKS, RoMMIe made a server mod that allows for makes it impossible to kill chestbursters)

OH YEAH, and thsi is kinda HUGE!!!!! I NEVER played AvP2 before I played it on my MacBook. I have played it on PC but barely. never more than just a mintue to see if I set it up right.

PAY ATTENTION: In the PC version when a Predator is cloaked and standing/crouching motionless they are 100% INVISIBLE to human players. I'll say it again ONE HUNDRED PERCENT INVISIBLE TO HUMANS WHEN THEY ARE MOTIONLESS AND CLOAKED. The humans have an Alternate Vision (you may remember it from AvP:Gold) the Image Intensifier. it like night vision, turning hte screen green. It runs on a battery that runs out after a while then needs recharging....When using night vision you can NOT see your radar. It mad 100% sense to me that this was to balance out the Predators abilty to disappear, because with the Mac version a human can see a cloaked Predator AS CLEAR AS DAY! You won't think twice about it until your in a MP server taking out silly preds from a distance who seem to just be standing or crouching there. Obviously they're shooting at someone, maybe you? Bang you shoot them. Soon the preds start calling you a 'noob", or asking you if your using an 'alien vision hack', or accusing u of being 'an aimbotter' and hacker.....bacsically calling you a cheater. Technically your just playing the game the way it was made. PERSONALLY, i think its STUPID for preds to be 100% invisible simply by not moving. then you get guys who "CAMP" in a corner witht he spear gun and just waste humans. JUST BE SMART! you can run and use this natural ability in the Mac version and abuse it (that'll get you ridiculed and kicked even banned from a server QUICK) or you can "BE SMART" with this info.

Before I begin, someone earlier stated that the AvP:Gold graphics are BETTER THEN those of AvP2. No offense, but THAT COULDN'T BE ANY FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

OK, I've been a Mac guy for a few years now. First had an iBook G4 (got stolen from my car ), then got me an Intel iMac, and finally black MacBook for christmas '06. About a year ago I remembered the good ole' times I had playing AvP:Gold on my PC. I did a quick search and OMG! there it was...for MAC...and AvP2 for Mac too!! Yoo Hoo! Each game, BRAND SPANKING NEW cost about $10 bucks.
Google "Aliens vs Predator 2 Mac" ......then click shopping......then click list by price LOWEST to HIGHEST. If an Alien/Predator/Marine Multiplayer shooter is what you crave......only buy AVP2 there is NO NEED to EVER play AvP:Gold once you've setup AVP2.RUNDOWN OF your questions ANSWERED AND THEN SOME1. AVP2 multiplayer = YES it is fixed! Strider1 (what's up buddy) posted a link to earlier. You can also Google "avp2 online fix Mac" (the fix is not perfect. When you enter the multiplayer server list you cannot refresh. so if the server you want is full, then you need to quit the entire game by pressing COMMAND+OPTION+ESC, start the game over and hope theres room. Same process if you wanna change servers. But hey Macplay left us high and dry, had it not been for some awesome mo-fo out there we'd be S.O.L. and stuck with AvP:OLD (did I forget the G? oh well. hee hee)2. AVP2 crossplatform mp = HELLS FREAKIN YEAH IT WORKS! I'm a member of the STARGATE COMMAND CLAN. I'm one of two members that play on a Mac. Everyone else in PC.

3. AVP2 expansion = AvP2:Gold Primal Hunt never happened for our beloved Mac. BUT it was planned. I don't know if it is still listed, but once I got AvP2, I NEEDED primal hunt. In searching for it I found TWO legitimate sights profiling the game. One, I believe was Amazon, the other was IGN (i think). But I couldn't find a copy to buy. Further digging lead me to the itty-bitty fine print. *game never released* THEN WHY STILL HAVE IT POSTED ?? GRRR so yeah, NO PRIMAL HUNT for Mac, but as it turns out there's a bigger Mutliplayer community for the standard AvP2.

5. AVP Gold = works on OS X it also works on OS 9. Are you gonna start using that too. TRUST me they belong together. Gold passed the torch to AvP2, but Macplay left it to burnout...and it almost did.....ALMOST.

6. AVP2 hold out mode like in AVP Gold = Hold out mode? I believe you are referring to SKIRMISH MODE. *Sigh* I would get stuck for hours wasting Aliens on the STRANDED Map as Marine, then as a Predator. SKIRMISH mode was NOT included in AvP2.......But (see next question)

7. AVPG existing mods = As fellow Mac guys (and gals?) you know that when it comes to compatibility or having the 'cool' games/programs we haven't exactly had it easy. I mean AvP2 came out in 2001! It took 6 freakin for us to get an UNofficial MP fix. On the topic of having it rough when it comes to games, anyone else here a Nintendo guy/gal too??

ok, MODs. Those that work with PC work with Mac too. In most cases its easier to add/subtract to Mac's AvP2 folder system then to the PC file system. The biggest roadblocks when it comes to Mods are those that require an .exe file to install. But, CUSTOM SKIRMISH LEVELS and Single Player Levels are easy to find and even easier to install.

All you really need is Ultimate Map Pack 2. It is fairly easy to find. It's a HUGE download that can often lead to a huge disappointment for us Mac people when we find out that it installs with an .exe.....Like i sadi earlier I'm a member of [SG_CMD] HONESTLY we have the 4 best, most reliable and most popular AvP2 server in the community. We also have Counter Strike, BF2, Quake: ET, and Battlefield 2142 servers. I got 2142 for christmas but haven't gotten into it yet. All i really play is AvP2. MY POINT? Feel free to visit our AvP2 downloads section for your one stop Mod shop of free downloads.Stargate Command Homepage Click on downloads>Aliens vs Predator 2.

What you need? For a Mac all you need is the Ultimate Map Pack.rar UMP2.rar opens to a UMP2 folder. Inside that folder is a folder titled MAPS. OK, you've already installed the game. and updated the AVP2.app and AVP2SERV.app witht he official 1096 update and are now looking at this MAPS folder that has a HUGE directory of folders and files inside it.

WHAT DO YOU DO??? Simply drop the MAPS folder into your DATA folder that is inside you main AvP2 folder. THATS IT! Start the game and *SPLASH SCREEN* ULTIMATE MAP PACK 2 INSTALLED.

What does this Mean? You can now play on just about any multiplayer map on any server. UMP2 also comes stocked with the latest and most popular SKIRMISH AND SP levels I mentioned earlier.

(these DLs are cool too:
AVP2ANDPRIMALHUNTNOCDEXCEUTABLE.RAR.......can play game on PC w/o needing a CD
AVP2 CD BACKUP.RAR..................Copies of AvP2 install discs for PC (to play online you NEED a unique serial key)
MULTIPAK.RAR.......cool skins and sounds in MP
COMMUNITY_MULTIMOD.ZIP................cool skins and sounds in MP
XHANSKINS.RAR......................cool skins and sounds in MP

That is UMP2 v2. There IS a version 3. Its not major or necessary. UMP2 is effin NEC-ESS-AR-YYYYY. If you're like me and NEED you can A) find a copy of it somewhere that opens to the directory of folders like UMP2 just did. all I found were .exe files. OR B) get your PC buddy (make sure his computer has a FIREWIRE PORT) hooked on the game too and explain to him the need to have UMP2 and its version 3 update. Install it on his computer. Put your Mac into target mode (restart holding T, basically making it an external hard drive) connect with a FIREWIRE cord and drag his UMP2 folder to your main AVP2 folder.

Someone mentioned LAN party earlier?? I work at an elementary school maintaining a lab or 33 iMac G5 (PPC) I've hosted 4 LAN parties in the Lab since September. The first 3 I hosted as a NON-Dedicated (the server was also the iMac I was playing on) Though the option is there to run as a DEDicated server......NO DICE.

The Mac WILL host a NON-Dedicated LAN server with NO PROBLEM. But that's it. NO Dedicated LAN, NO NON-Dedicated Internet, and NO Dedicated Internet.

As you can tell I'm into this freakin game BIG TIME! So believe me when I say that I tried and tried and looked and serarched for a clue, a solution, for somebody who knew somethin, anything that would help me to get the other server modes running, but again NO DICE.!

ALMOST DONE!

When I said that MODS work on Mac. This DOES NOT include SERVER MODs. As it turns out AVP2 is full of holes that allow for annoying hackers to to do whatever they want. ROMMIE put an end to this with his server mod that is updated still. BUT THEY ONLY run on PC. There are ZERO server Mods for the Mac. A Mac CAN play on a server running ROMMIE, but a Mac can NOT run ROMMIE. So my fourth LAN party I installed the latest ROMMIE mod on my buddy's laptop . I also installed mods that added characters and weapons.

Whats so cool about ROMMIE? Cool stuff like enabling all weapons, IP banning jerks, he even made a special version of his mod for our LIFECYCLE SERVER. (LC= you begin as a facehugger, as a chestburster your really vulnerable and it takes a good 30 or so second to grow to an adult. We set a server rule that players not kill chestbursters so that the game can continue......a lot of jerks out there are just that JERKS, RoMMIe made a server mod that allows for makes it impossible to kill chestbursters)

wow....i'm REALLY rambling.....i think I'ma play some AVP2....seriously!
OH YEAH, and thsi is kinda HUGE!!!!! I NEVER played AvP2 before I played it on my MacBook. I have played it on PC but barely. never more than just a mintue to see if I set it up right.

PAY ATTENTION: In the PC version when a Predator is cloaked and standing/crouching motionless they are 100% INVISIBLE to human players. I'll say it again ONE HUNDRED PERCENT INVISIBLE TO HUMANS WHEN THEY ARE MOTIONLESS AND CLOAKED. The humans have an Alternate Vision (you may remember it from AvP:Gold) the Image Intensifier. it like night vision, turning hte screen green. It runs on a battery that runs out after a while then needs recharging....When using night vision you can NOT see your radar. It mad 100% sense to me that this was to balance out the Predators abilty to disappear, because with the Mac version a human can see a cloaked Predator AS CLEAR AS DAY! You won't think twice about it until your in a MP server taking out silly preds from a distance who seem to just be standing or crouching there. Obviously they're shooting at someone, maybe you? Bang you shoot them. Soon the preds start calling you a 'noob", or asking you if your using an 'alien vision hack', or accusing u of being 'an aimbotter' and hacker.....bacsically calling you a cheater. Technically your just playing the game the way it was made. PERSONALLY, i think its STUPID for preds to be 100% invisible simply by not moving. then you get guys who "CAMP" in a corner witht he spear gun and just waste humans. JUST BE SMART! you can run and use this natural ability in the Mac version and abuse it (that'll get you ridiculed and kicked even banned from a server QUICK) or you can "BE SMART" with this info.

LAST tip....people HATE players who SPAM auto tracking weapons

Well, I think I've dropped enough AvP2 Mac knowledge for one post.

Hope i helped

Hope to hear from some of you

Hope to see all of you in game

My in game name: NINTENDRK[SG_CMD]PFC
Any more question feel free to message me

Someone plays AVPG on leopard, so yes. But I didn't find the hi res textures anymore.
And AVPG is, characterdesignwise, pretty neat. leveldesign is a bit spotty at best, but still.
And I decided to drop AVPG, since the PC version is having *issues*. I never looked into AVP2, and now it's too late..

If anyone has got AVP 2 working on 10.5 I'd be interested to know how!

Someone plays AVPG on leopard, so yes. But I didn't find the hi res textures anymore.
And AVPG is, characterdesignwise, pretty neat. leveldesign is a bit spotty at best, but still.
And I decided to drop AVPG, since the PC version is having *issues*. I never looked into AVP2, and now it's too late..

It's never too late to start playing an awesome game.BUY A COPY OF AVP2 You seem to really love AvPG. Once you play AvP2 you'll wish you hadn't waited so long to play.

Despite my extensive knowledge of running AVP2 on a Mac since I I'm running 10.4.11 on both my MacBook and Intel iMac I had no idea until now (thanks to you lucky Leopard running guys ) that it couldn't be run on Leopard or that there was such a big problem with SO MANY games running on 10.5x
I think someone (Quanta maybe) already tried bypassing the opening movies so after that I'm in the same boat as the rest of you (left hoping that someone works out a fix like they did the online issue or that the issue gets fixed in a future Mac update)

This new knowledge SERIOUSLY has me no longer feeling the need to install Leopard. I play AVP2 every day so until it gets up and running on 10.5 then i'm gonna be one Tiger rocking-mofo.

Despite my extensive knowledge of running AVP2 on a Mac since I I'm running 10.4.11 on both my MacBook and Intel iMac I had no idea until now (thanks to you lucky Leopard running guys ) that it couldn't be run on Leopard or that there was such a big problem with SO MANY games running on 10.5x
I think someone (Quanta maybe) already tried bypassing the opening movies so after that I'm in the same boat as the rest of you (left hoping that someone works out a fix like they did the online issue or that the issue gets fixed in a future Mac update)

This new knowledge SERIOUSLY has me no longer feeling the need to install Leopard. I play AVP2 every day so until it gets up and running on 10.5 then i'm gonna be one Tiger rocking-mofo.
Nintendork78[SG_CMD]PFC

AIM/YIM: xenoRick78

I upgraded my Mac Pro to Leopard, but that is the ONLY one of my Macs that I will upgrade to this OS. Honestly, I haven't found a great reason yet why I bothered upgrading. So far 10.5 seems to be kind of a waste in my opinion, especially if it causes problems with multiple games!

You're running Leopard and AvP2's not running on Leopard. NOW i understand why it's too late. But if it gets fixed, then YOU GOTTA get it bro. You'll freakin' LOVE IT!
Nintendork78[SG_CMD]PFC

AIM/YIM: xenoRick78

I was actually referring to a lan party I was about to run, but yes, avp2 doesnt work in leopard, so it wouldnt have worked anyway. (it was a mac vs pc party, two pcs, four macs (of which 2 were macbooks) and two leopard users)

I had no idea until now (thanks to you lucky Leopard running guys ) that it couldn't be run on Leopard or that there was such a big problem with SO MANY games running on 10.5x
I think someone (Quanta maybe) already tried bypassing the opening movies so after that I'm in the same boat as the rest of you (left hoping that someone works out a fix like they did the online issue or that the issue gets fixed in a future Mac update)

Although fixes for games like AVP2, NOLF2, SOF2 and TRON 2 would be great news I really can't see it happening as MacPlay haven't patched their games in a longtime and Omni who ported the first three examples don't do game ports these days. I think Transgaming did TRON 2 and they are now busy with Cider. Maybe one day the source code will be liberated as has happened with games like Doom, Quake and Duke Nukem but even then an OS X port isn't a given. It is a shame as I'm sure owners of Mac Mini and MacBook machines could probably run these if they were patched to be universal and a good game is still good whenever you get to play it.

I think the sources for AvP and NOLF are available, so you could probably do a Mac port. I don't know what license they're under, though, so it might still be out. IIRC they used a closed-source Lithtech binary, so that might complicate things...