WWI Digest 947
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Louvres
by Joey Valenciano
2) Re: Exhibition Judges
by "D. Anderson"
3) Re: Air Enthusiast articles
by Michelle and Rory Goodwin
4) Re: Toko S.S.
by Michelle and Rory Goodwin
5) Re: Testors Nie 17 Color/ Aluminum Dopes :-)
by Michelle and Rory Goodwin
6) Re: Aerodrome Modeler
by DavidL1217
7) Re: Exhibition Judges
by KarrArt
8) Re: Louvres
by Matthew Zivich
9) Re: Exhibition Judges
by Matthew Zivich
10) Re: Aerodrome Modeler
by Bob Pearson
11) Getting kids started (was Re: Exhibition Judges)
by Bob Pearson
12) Re: Getting kids started (was Re: Exhibition Judges)
by KarrArt
13) Re: Getting kids started (was Re: Exhibition Judges)
by KarrArt
14) OTF seminar
by Bob Pearson
15) Re: OTF seminar
by DavidL1217
16) Re: Exhibition Judges
by Ernest Thomas
17) Re: Testors Nie 17 Color
by bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael)
18) Re: HP 0/400 revisited
by bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael)
19) scary offspring
by KarrArt
20) Tom's 1/48th
by mbittner@juno.com
21) Re: Tom's 1/48th
by Bob Pearson
22) Re: Tom's 1/48th
by Ernest Thomas
23) Re: Tom's 1/48th
by Mick Fauchon
24) Re: Tom's 1/48th
by Mick Fauchon
25) Re: Tom's 1/48th
by Bob Pearson
26) Re: Tom's 1/48th
by Mick Fauchon
27) Re: Testors Nie 17 Color
by "Lee Mensinger"
28) Re: Tom's 1/48th
by Joey Valenciano
29) The Other RNAS Tripes
by Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde)
30) Re: OTF seminar
by REwing
31) Re: Tom's 1/48th
by KarrArt
32) Re: new firm?
by Michelle and Rory Goodwin
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:24:26 +0800
From: Joey Valenciano
To: wwi
Subject: Louvres
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980321232426.0076d8ac@philonline.com.ph>
> Although I don't have the specs. of the material I have used with
>me now, to save time I'll try to describe what I used and hope you will get
>the picture.
(Snip)
Thanks for the description, Matt.
*********************************************************************
Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician,
joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist
tel. (632) 921-26-75
Metro-Manila, Philippines
"The more you know, the more you don't know."
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 08:46:32 -0700
From: "D. Anderson"
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Exhibition Judges
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980321084632.00709110@cadvision.com>
At 03:15 AM 21/03/98 -0500, you wrote:
>While some may wish to dispute various points in these rules, over all,
>they're well reasoned and fairly objective. These rules help prevent
>situations where the gold medal goes to a model because of a perceived
>difficulty(rigging), or the biggest model, or the most epic diorama,
>when these models may not be the highest quality workmanship in the
>competition. TYL.
>
>Ernest
>
>
I have to break in here and recount a story that goes to illustrate just
how bad a contest can be. It was about 14 years ago, and the local IPMS
chapter was holding its annual contest in a shopping mall. One fellow had
brought along his most recent project, the Nichimo 1/200 Yamato. However,
he hadn't yet finished it, not by a long way. Most of the details, such as
the Yamato's vast anti-aircraft weaponry, had not yet been installed, and
the paint job (applied with a brush!) was also in the early stages, and
large areas of the model were still bare plastic. I think the guy had
brought this model more to show his fellow modellers how he was coming
along than to really enter it. But entered it was. And when it came time to
judge best-of-show, the chief judge chuckled and said to the assembled
gathering (which included a large number of mildly interested shoppers):
"well, I don't think there was much doubt which model is best-of-show here"
and proceeded to award the UNFINISHED model of the Yamato best-of-show! Agh!
As far as I could see then, this award was based purely on the size of the
model (a 1/200 scale Yamato is BIG). Since then, I've had very little to do
with the local club, which is no longer even IPMS-affiliated, and have had
a dim opinion of model contests.
Dane
ps. FWIW, my 1/48 Zero won 2nd in aircraft, and I had no illusions about it
being best-of-show material, so I'm not sore for that. But Jesus! There
must have been at least one FINISHED model there that could have qualified.
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 08:49:24 -0800
From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Air Enthusiast articles
Message-ID: <3513EF94.6770@ricochet.net>
Lee Mensinger wrote:
> A person inWashington State asked me to pick up an extra copy for him.
> If he does not respond to my posts by this afternoon, I will have an
> extra.Cost to will be $9.95 + 80 cents tax and $3. priority mail..
> Total $13.75. In addition, I believe, the shop I deal with may have a
> few extra available. They will hold for me if I call.
> Let me know if you are interested. Lee
Lee,
Sorry for the lag; e-mail broken. Thanks for the offer. I managed to
finally locate some at the local robbery shop. Might just pick one up
today.
Riordan
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:23:39 -0800
From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Toko S.S.
Message-ID: <3513F74B.6CB6@ricochet.net>
John Berlien wrote:
>
> I also got the Toko S.S. from Squadron, with Udet markings. A reference I saw
> on another email reminded me of this question - Toko included some extensive
> (for $8, anyway) lozenge decals, for top and bottom of wings, but they are only
> one set of colors. Aren't the top and bottom supposed to be different on this
> plane, like they are on the Albatros and Fokkers?
AFAIK, yes, the S.S. should have different lozenge fabrics on upper &
lower as the Albatrosen & Fokkers.
Riordan
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:32:19 -0800
From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Testors Nie 17 Color/ Aluminum Dopes :-)
Message-ID: <3513F9A3.11FE@ricochet.net>
mbittner@juno.com wrote:
> So, if I'm using Flat Aluminum as the basis for the fabric covered areas, what should I use for the metal covered?
Perhaps I'm a slacker, but I just use Testors chrome silver. Thought
about using metalizer over it, but I always try to simplify projects for
a balance between effort and appearance.
Riordan
BTW, I just found another Revell Nieuport, so I'm gaining on you!
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:52:53 EST
From: DavidL1217
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler
Message-ID: <1d46f6b.3513fe77@aol.com>
Were we successful in obtaining the collection? If not, who got it?
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 13:21:05 EST
From: KarrArt
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Exhibition Judges
Message-ID:
In a message dated 98-03-21 03:13:21 EST, you write:
<< Most of all, enter a competition with the basic idea of having fun and
maybe learning a new trick or two. If you go home with an award, great.
If not, at least you'll have a better idea of what it will take to win
next year. >>
It took a while for me to learn what we might call "IRA's Rule"-Have Fun! I
don't enter that many comptetions, but when I do, I go there to win- it adds
to the fun. But when I don't come home with any victory knick-knacks, I've
still had a great time, talked to some good people, bought some neat stuff at
the vendors and maybe learned a modeling hot lick or two! Also, every show
I've been to has had a non-competetive exhibition only category.
A couple of times, I've picked up wins that totally surprised me- I'd brought
some less than perfect piece of junk just to have something to show and walked
out with a win. Wierd.
One thing I've also learned is to be sure and mention on the entry sheet any
odd things on the real object that might be misinterpreted as bad workmanship-
such as the twist in a Pfalz D III elevator.
Most judges at most contests have been pretty good.Usually, there's a cross
section of guys who among them know quite a bit about most facets of the
modeling world.At least one of them will be able to tell a Smer from a DML
from an old Aurora.I'm most pleased when at least one judge is a WW I type of
guy- not because I'll win, but because I know he's not going to be impressed
by mere rigging! If the judges are all the $300-after-market-Verlinden-bits-
on-a-1/32-F-14 guys,I'll might win just because they think rigging is magic!
Conversely, I've had some animosity from the penlight brigade because they
refuse to believe that I've made my own be-slotted Spandau jackets- they want
to know what brand of brass parts I used and think I'm lying and refuse to
tell.The Gotha lost at one show for this very reason- it later got back to me
that the after-market big jet guys who were judging that day were pissed off
at my "lying".These same guys awarded the junior category to a 10 year old
girl who had "built" a magazine perfect 1/48 Mirage. The whole day this kid
was running up and down the hallway and showed no interest in modeling
whatsoever- her dad picked up the award at the ceremony becuase the kid was
off somewhere else. I don't think she had a clue what model building was.
This brings me to another thing- kids.Whenever I see a good model, no matter
what the subject matter, I always try and say something.We need to give all
encouragement we can to a new batch of modelers.
Most modelers are thoughtful and considerate, but there are a few who show up
late, and carelessly start shoving everybody else's models out of the way on
the exhibition tables so they can position their crap to best advantage.At a
contest earlier this month, for the first time, I actually saw one of the
people running the contest go up to one of these big-headed "master modelers"
and make him move his entry to the non-competition area- the guy missed the
time deadline by 15 minutes, the tables were full, and he thought he could
just show up and do it his way.There are circumstances here in Southern
California where slack should be given because of the distances involved and
traffic, but some of these guys need a real attitude adjustment.
Lastly, one contest I WILL bust my butt to win is the Chino show because the
best of show prize isn't just a trophy or medal- it's a ride in a P-51!
I did it a few years ago, and I'm hungry again! Gentlemanly behavior and
niceties be damned! (no, I take that back, all the winners of this magnificent
experience through the years have been nice guys and great model builders
whose entries deserved to win!)
These random, early morning and somewhat disconnected ,not necessarily
connected to judging, poorly composed brain ramblings have been brought to you
by
the sleepy fingers of
Robert K.
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:15:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Matthew Zivich
To: wwi
Cc: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Louvres
Message-ID:
The stuff I use is Evergreen Scale Models brand, Strip Styrene, .020" Rod.
Matt Z.
On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Joey Valenciano wrote:
>
> > Although I don't have the specs. of the material I have used with
> >me now, to save time I'll try to describe what I used and hope you will get
> >the picture.
>
> (Snip)
>
> Thanks for the description, Matt.
>
>
> *********************************************************************
>
> Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician,
> joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist
> tel. (632) 921-26-75
> Metro-Manila, Philippines
>
> "The more you know, the more you don't know."
>
> *********************************************************************
>
>
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:25:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Matthew Zivich
To: wwi
Cc: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Exhibition Judges
Message-ID:
Thanks, Ernest. Now I guess I'll have to go back and scrape off all those
paint drips. BTW, please have pity on those photos I sent you!
Matt Z.
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 13:47:06 -0800
From: Bob Pearson
To: WW1 Mailing list
Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler
Message-ID: <21470660050783@KAIEN.COM>
I'm still waiting on the reply. It will probably be at least another week as
trhe seller wants to deal via snail mail only. As far as I know I am the
only one bidding on it.
Regards,
Bob Pearson
----------
> From: DavidL1217
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: Aerodrome Modeler
> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:55:27 -0500
>
> Were we successful in obtaining the collection? If not, who got it?
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 13:54:19 -0800
From: Bob Pearson
To: WW1 Mailing list
Subject: Getting kids started (was Re: Exhibition Judges)
Message-ID: <21541978350791@KAIEN.COM>
Robert Karr wrote . . .
> This brings me to another thing- kids.Whenever I see a good model, no
matter
> what the subject matter, I always try and say something.We need to give
all
> encouragement we can to a new batch of modelers.
What I did a few years ago when my favourite shop closed and their remaining
models went almost by the pound, was give a pile away to the neighbourhood
kids. For a couple of weeks there were broken Mustangs, Lightnings, you name
it around the block
> These random, early morning and somewhat disconnected ,not necessarily
> connected to judging, poorly composed brain ramblings have been brought to
you
> by
> the sleepy fingers of
> Robert K.
Boy if 10:30 am is early, your hours must rival my own - my alarm clock is
the mailman at 10am :-)
Regards,
Bob Pearson
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:02:07 EST
From: KarrArt
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Getting kids started (was Re: Exhibition Judges)
Message-ID: <9a074d4c.351438e2@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-21 16:51:57 EST, you write:
<< What I did a few years ago when my favourite shop closed and their
remaining
models went almost by the pound, was give a pile away to the neighbourhood
kids. For a couple of weeks there were broken Mustangs, Lightnings, you name
it around the block >>
Give that man a medal!
Robert K.
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:02:06 EST
From: KarrArt
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Getting kids started (was Re: Exhibition Judges)
Message-ID: <8c0e38cc.351438e0@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-21 16:51:57 EST, you write:
<< brought to
you
> by
> the sleepy fingers of
> Robert K.
Boy if 10:30 am is early, your hours must rival my own - my alarm clock is
the mailman at 10am :-)
Regards,
Bob Pearson >>
Saturday morning hours!
Robert K.
now afixing the top wing on the infamous 0/400. The aileron cable routing was
designed by some sadistic savage who knew that in about 80 years some hapless
modeler would attempt to duplicate this mess in 1/48!
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 15:07:32 -0800
From: Bob Pearson
To: WW1 Mailing list
Subject: OTF seminar
Message-ID: <23073214950904@KAIEN.COM>
Greetings all,
Well it is official I am going to Phoenix. It took awhile to see if I could
afford it - I can't, but that is beside the point. I will arrive on the
evening of April 29th and leave the afternoon of the 4th. Remember to wear
your buttons guys - well except for DavidL1217, I've seen your face before
:-)
I had trouble getting my reservation. The girl taking mine couldn't find our
group number. Has anyone else had this trouble? She eventually got it
straight, but it was disconcerting to say the least.
Regards,
Bob Pearson
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:17:00 EST
From: DavidL1217
To: wwi
Subject: Re: OTF seminar
Message-ID:
Just a sign of the crisis in American Education....
BTW, I need a pin so everyone but Bob can recognize me.
David Layton
2009 Cedarmill Dr.
Chesterfield, MO 63017
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:11:35 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Exhibition Judges
Message-ID: <35147357.576D@bellsouth.net>
Matthew Zivich wrote:
>
> Thanks, Ernest. Now I guess I'll have to go back and scrape off all those
> paint drips. BTW, please have pity on those photos I sent you!
>
> Matt Z.
Matt,
uuuhhh!!!! I was kinda hoping you might have forgotten about those
pictures. Did you need them back? The reason I ask is that I left them
on my kitchen counter and they got wet. I wish I could blame it on my 3
year old, But it's my fault. They're not ruined, but they're not in the
same condition that you sent them in. If you need them back, I'll drop
them in the mail monday. Sorry.
Ernest
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:24:40 -0500
From: bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael)
To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Testors Nie 17 Color
Message-ID: <199803220224.VAA25276@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
At 05:46 PM 3/19/98 -0500, Pedro Nuno Soares wrote:
>
>I was looking at a photo I took of a Sop. Pup at the RAF Museum and the =
>exhaust channel shows plenty of oil stains while the cowling is =
>relatively stain free. This is a museum piece so it must have been =
>through a good clean up. Still the stains on the underfuselage are very =
>visible... I guess oil would collect around the inside of the cowling =
>and flow to the exhaust channel where it would be blown backwards by the =
>slipstream....
Pedro
That confrims what I saw at the Museum in Belgium...pans underneath
the engine to catch the oil, etc. I sorta remember this at the AF museum at
Wright-Patt, but am not positive...
Mike Muth
nb: Roland Whale and Wildcat(What would the offspring of that union look
like????
nl: Fiona Ritchie/Thistle & Shamrock
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:24:42 -0500
From: bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael)
To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: HP 0/400 revisited
Message-ID: <199803220224.VAA25286@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
At 07:35 PM 3/19/98 -0500, KarrArt wrote:
>In a message dated 98-03-19 19:05:57 EST, you write:
>
><< Maybe it was the "Flying Harem" repainted of course!
> Sandy >>
>Ah, so the delegates could join the mile high club?(could a 0/400 loaded with
>diplomats ascend that high?)
Sure...the hot air alone would get them that high!
Mike Muth
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:01:39 EST
From: KarrArt
To: wwi
Subject: scary offspring
Message-ID: <154b975b.35147f16@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-21 21:23:01 EST, you write:
<< nb: Roland Whale and Wildcat(What would the offspring of that union look
like???? >>
Alfred Hitchcock?Herman Goering? Roseanne?Helmut Kohl?Winston Churchill?Some
modelers?
Robert K.
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:28:17 -0600
From: mbittner@juno.com
To: wwi
Subject: Tom's 1/48th
Message-ID: <19980321.222819.16582.3.mbittner@juno.com>
I was "given" two 1/48th Tom's Modelworks WW1 vacs: Albatros D.V and
Pfalz D.III (now you know why I was "given" them). I am willing to let
them go to the first person/persons who want them for only the price of
postage. Heck, the white metal in them is worth more than that! Any
takers?
Matt Bittner
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 20:36:05 -0800
From: Bob Pearson
To: WW1 Mailing list
Subject: Re: Tom's 1/48th
Message-ID: <04360521551380@KAIEN.COM>
Matt,
Pick me, Pick me :-)
Bob
----------
> From: mbittner@juno.com
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Tom's 1/48th
> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:30:54 -0500
>
> I was "given" two 1/48th Tom's Modelworks WW1 vacs: Albatros D.V and
> Pfalz D.III (now you know why I was "given" them). I am willing to let
> them go to the first person/persons who want them for only the price of
> postage. Heck, the white metal in them is worth more than that! Any
> takers?
>
>
> Matt Bittner
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
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> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
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>
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:11:10 -0600
From: Ernest Thomas
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Tom's 1/48th
Message-ID: <35149D6E.78E2@bellsouth.net>
mbittner@juno.com wrote:
>
> I was "given" two 1/48th Tom's Modelworks WW1 vacs: Albatros D.V and
> Pfalz D.III (now you know why I was "given" them). I am willing to let
> them go to the first person/persons who want them for only the price of
> postage. Heck, the white metal in them is worth more than that! Any
> takers?
>
> Matt Bittner
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Rats! Looks like Pearson got there first.
E.
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:20:16 +1100 (EST)
From: Mick Fauchon
To: wwi
Cc: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Tom's 1/48th
Message-ID:
Bob & Matt,
> Pick me, Pick me :-)
>
> Bob
Damn! I shoulda got in earlier. I could have used the engines.
The message has only been on my screen a matter of seconds!
Ya gotta be quick! 80)
Cheers,
Mick.
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:29:15 +1100 (EST)
From: Mick Fauchon
To: wwi
Cc: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Tom's 1/48th
Message-ID:
Ernest,
> Rats!
Indeed!
Looks like Pearson got there first.
Yep, looks like he's quicker than your average addict! 80)
Mick.
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:29:23 -0800
From: Bob Pearson
To: WW1 Mailing list
Subject: Re: Tom's 1/48th
Message-ID: <05292319351435@KAIEN.COM>
Dare I mention I just got up from my nap and checked my mail out of habit
:-)
Bob
----------
> From: Mick Fauchon
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: Tom's 1/48th
> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:26:03 -0500
>
>
>
> Ernest,
>
> > Rats!
>
> Indeed!
>
> Looks like Pearson got there first.
>
> Yep, looks like he's quicker than your average addict! 80)
>
>
> Mick.
>
>
> --
--
> Mick Fauchon | Internet:
ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au
> Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861
> University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833
>
> MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
> M M
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:50:45 +1100 (EST)
From: Mick Fauchon
To: wwi
Cc: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Tom's 1/48th
Message-ID:
Bob,
> Dare I mention I just got up from my nap and checked my mail out of habit
> :-)
No, you may *not* dare. Some of us have had to work all day! 80(
Jeez! 80)
Mick.
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Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861
University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833
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M M
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M M
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:47:04 -0600
From: "Lee Mensinger"
To: wwi, "Lee Mensinger"
Subject: Re: Testors Nie 17 Color
Message-ID: <3514A5D8.CBE63D00@wireweb.net>
Mary-Ann/Michael wrote:
> At 05:46 PM 3/19/98 -0500, Pedro Nuno Soares wrote:
> >
> >I was looking at a photo I took of a Sop. Pup at the RAF Museum and
> the =
> >exhaust channel shows plenty of oil stains while the cowling is =
> >relatively stain free. This is a museum piece so it must have been =
> >through a good clean up. Still the stains on the underfuselage are
> very =
> >visible... I guess oil would collect around the inside of the cowling
> =
> >and flow to the exhaust channel where it would be blown backwards by
> the =
> >slipstream....
> Pedro
> That confrims what I saw at the Museum in Belgium...pans
> underneath
> the engine to catch the oil, etc. I sorta remember this at the AF
> museum at
> Wright-Patt, but am not positive...
> Mike Muth
Didn't want to mess with the thread. But this is on the present, off
subject, thread.The castor oil is mixed with the gasoline, I can't
remember the ratio but it is more than twenty five percent maybe closer
to 50.It does not burn overly much and comes out in generous amounts.
The engine has not proper crankcase, so, what comes out is remains of
fuel inducted through the fuel system via the crankcase. I guess it
would resemble a very oily vapor coating everything inside, as well as
outside beyond the exhaust system. I know it coats everything to some
degree.
We just wipe it off. Keeps the paint from getting brittle.
In any event it certanimly does come out through the exhaust pipe, in
copious quantities. The only stuff in the cowling is thrown from the
engineoil leaks.
I wish I could send a photo of the TM S4C Scout we have near here. I
will have to send some pictures to Allan for the files so you can see
them. The engine is a LeRhone 80HP rotary. This plane is one of two,
flying, in the world. His father has the other one. Roger Freeman, the
owner, was the mechanic in the Great Waldo Pepper with R. Redford. He
also flew in the Blue Max, and he built the DR1 and D VII at The AF
Museum.
How about it Allan? Want some pictures? Lee
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:09:53 +0800
From: Joey Valenciano
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Tom's 1/48th
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980322130953.00c12710@philonline.com.ph>
At 11:36 PM 3/21/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Matt,
>
>Pick me, Pick me :-)
>
>Bob
Rats! Foiled again! ;^)
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Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician,
joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist
tel. (632) 921-26-75
Metro-Manila, Philippines
"The more you know, the more you don't know."
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Date: 22 Mar 1998 01:01:42 EDT
From: Redwilde@bdsbbs.com (Redwilde)
To: wwi
Subject: The Other RNAS Tripes
Message-ID: <89054654278029@bdsbbs.com>
Well, after spending most of the afternoon working (starting the master
figure for the 1/285 Salmson 2, I wrapped up the Hannover Cl.III last
week), I decided for a change of pace for the evening and wound up doing
a pair of conversions, turning Nieuport 11s into Nieuport Triplanes.
Used putty to make the engine cowlings fully round; moved the lower
wings forward, and then trimmed down the chord on Sopwith Triplane wings
(which were the right length) for the upper wings.
But now for the questions:
(I bet if anyone here knows the answers its Bob Pearson...)
According the FMP's French A/C book, the RNAS evaluated two of the
N.Tripes. One was tested by 11 Naval and the other may have gone to 11
Naval first and then on to 10 Naval.
The only photos in the book though of British machines was another one
tested by the RFC. This has the British serial number painted on the
tail but appears to have French roundels.
Are there any clues as to markings used by the RNAS? French or
British roundels? Flight or personal markings?
Also, the book gives the dates each machine was struck from the roles.
Any clue when they arrived?
And a general question that's puzzled me for some time: when a
frontline squadron evaluated prototype planes, did they ever take them
out on combat patrols after getting familiar with them?
Brian RW
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 01:16:14 EST
From: REwing
To: wwi
Subject: Re: OTF seminar
Message-ID: <5f86a75f.3514acb0@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-21 18:06:17 EST, you write:
<< Remember to wear
your buttons guys - well except for DavidL1217, I've seen your face before
:-) >>
I still haven't gotten my button. I forgot who was doing them and hope
everything is okay. I guess I'll go down in lurking mode!
-Rick-
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 02:01:53 EST
From: KarrArt
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Tom's 1/48th
Message-ID: <7b4f38e.3514b764@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-22 00:45:32 EST, you write:
<< nap >>
Ahhh......the hobby of kings
Robert K.
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:30:57 -0800
From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin
To: wwi
Subject: Re: new firm?
Message-ID: <3514BE31.42AE@ricochet.net>
Steven M Perry wrote:
>
> Hi Franco:
> I have the Fokker E.III by Flashback. It is as you describe. The Eduard
> mold, very nice cast resin cockpit interior pieces and a high quality
> P.E. sheet. Decals for a Bravarian and a Turkish version
Steve,
If you're not planning on using the Ottoman markings, let me know what
they're worth to you.
Cheers,
Riordan
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