That is stunningly accurate. Particular fondness for "People adjusting their drugs in the security line." If you ever need to score just look at the ground/garbage can outside the security line. Ground drugs get you higher!

Rapmaster2000:I'd rather pretend to like a fake band than admit that I paid money to see Gaslight Anthem, the Lumineers, Vampire Weekend, James Blake, or Franz Ferdinand.

I'd love to see Kurt Vile, but he's much more suited to a dark bar than out in the daylight. It would ruin the mood. The Oh Sees are cool as well if you like straight up rock.

Also, Red Hot Chili Peppers? Does anyone want to see fiftysomethings play pop radio tunes?

I can certainly understand the RHCP hate, but at the same time, does anyone want to pay $400 to hear a bunch of bands/singers/rappers that they've never heard of sing songs they don't know? Just because it's "new" doesn't mean it's good, just sayin...

chevydeuce:Rapmaster2000: I'd rather pretend to like a fake band than admit that I paid money to see Gaslight Anthem, the Lumineers, Vampire Weekend, James Blake, or Franz Ferdinand.

I'd love to see Kurt Vile, but he's much more suited to a dark bar than out in the daylight. It would ruin the mood. The Oh Sees are cool as well if you like straight up rock.

Also, Red Hot Chili Peppers? Does anyone want to see fiftysomethings play pop radio tunes?

I can certainly understand the RHCP hate, but at the same time, does anyone want to pay $400 to hear a bunch of bands/singers/rappers that they've never heard of sing songs they don't know? Just because it's "new" doesn't mean it's good, just sayin...

I suppose I would not want to pay $400 to see a bunch of bands I've never heard of. As it goes, I've heard of about half of those bands, but I'm still not paying $400 to bake out in the sun for days on end. I'm an indoorsman.

I spend several hours a day listening to bands that I've never heard of, or catching up on bands that I've heard of to see what they're all about.

A friend of mine went to Cochella. Next time I see her I'm gonna ask her if she liked Get the Fark Out of my Pool.

Yeah, I laughed out loud too, fake or not.

Ask that next time you see her and let us know what she says.

InmanRoshi:I'm a self admitted old fart, but I only wish this generation would do something to scare and confuse me. Instead it's just boring crass commercialism and empty marketing.

I was in my mid 20s when I saw the first Ozzfest (in '96), which was awesome by the way, and I feel the same way you do about this generation. It all seems force-fed to them and they just gobble it up. I never even heard of Cochella before seeing this thread!

Huh? I'd say generations before us were force fed, not us. That's why all these old folks complain about how music sucks, while they depend on FM radio to find out about new music. You guys still rely on the big music industry to tell you what to like, while we use the internet and it's splintered my generation into a bunch of different scenes and we lack any kind of major unifying generational band, because unlike boomers and Gen X, we aren't force fed our music from the radio and MTV. You really got it all backwards, and you're misunderstanding is obvious since this is the first time you've heard of Coachella.

TheJoe03:555-FILK: It all seems force-fed to them and they just gobble it up.

Huh? I'd say generations before us were force fed, not us. That's why all these old folks complain about how music sucks, while they depend on FM radio to find out about new music. You guys still rely on the big music industry to tell you what to like, while we use the internet and it's splintered my generation into a bunch of different scenes and we lack any kind of major unifying generational band, because unlike boomers and Gen X, we aren't force fed our music from the radio and MTV. You really got it all backwards, and you're misunderstanding is obvious since this is the first time you've heard of Coachella.

But they never announced this Coachella thing on Classic 98.5 or Party Jams 101.3. Are you sure it's real?

Embden.Meyerhof:brap: It's usually more fun to make up band names than to have to sit through them anyway. I only want to be a musician so I can rename the band at every gig. I was actually in a band that did this so we could get the same people to show up at our gigs on consecutive nights.

Dead Monkeys are to split up again, according to their manager, Lefty Goldblatt. They've been in the business now ten years, nine as other groups. Originally the Dead Salmon, they became for a while, Trout. Then Fried Trout, then Poached Trout In A White Wine Sauce, and finally, Herring. Splitting up for nearly a month, they re-formed as Red Herring, which became Dead Herring for a while, and then Dead Loss, which reflected the current state of the group. Splitting up again to get their heads together, they reformed a fortnight later as Heads Together, a tight little name which lasted them through a difficult period when their drummer was suspected of suffering from death. It turned out to be only a rumor and they became Dead Together, then Dead Gear, which lead to Dead Donkeys, Lead Donkeys, and the inevitable split up. After nearly ten days, they reformed again as Sole Manier, then Dead Sole, Rock Cod, Turbot, Haddock, White Baith, the Places, Fish, Bream, Mackerel, Salmon, Poached Salmon, Poached Salmon In A White Wine Sauce, Salmon-monia, and Helen Shapiro. This last name, their favorite, had to be dropped following an injunction and they split up again. When they reformed after a recordbreaking two days, they ditched the fishy references and became Dead Monkeys, a name which they stuck with for the rest of their careers. Now, a fortnight later, they've finally split up.

They will have about 5 tracks off of a single new release in rotation for about a month. The most popular band they'll play is whenever a new Stereolab comes out. This month it's been Tame Impala and Wavves that have been the most known bands in rotation. Sometimes it's an old record they dig up and start playing the hell out of.

They will have about 5 tracks off of a single new release in rotation for about a month. The most popular band they'll play is whenever a new Stereolab comes out. This month it's been Tame Impala and Wavves that have been the most known bands in rotation. Sometimes it's an old record they dig up and start playing the hell out of.

I never heard of Sallie Ford until last week when it went into rotation. This stuff is pretty good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpL5VekrRxs

I don't listen to a whole lot else but Pandora. Even the classic stations have devolved into rock blocks of Billy Squier and Bad Company. I'm not sure who's listening to that anymore.

This is the best time for music in history. Deal with it.

Many people think that while they're young. And while the internet has opened up new avenues for greater exposure for more acts, hardly anybody's interested in hearing any of it. The major labels, despite what you tell yourself, still control well over 90% of what people hear. And the major labels, along with the radio conglomerates, are more conservative than ever. They're not going to take a chance on a band like Primus, Morphine, Cake or even something as tame and conventional as Radiohead. They want stuff that's easy to sell, and that's all they care about. As far as Pandora and similar sites go, most people use it to listen to stuff that's already popular.

We've got a local college station which has the motto 'A diverse station for a diverse city' - which is crap of course but they pride themselves on apparently never playing a song more than twice.

It's all about 'all new music you don't recognize and will never hear again all the time'.

And when you make a fetish out having to play new music all the time you keep people from growing to like something.

And for the rest:Haven't read a post I disagree with.Like the RHCP hate cuz they deserve it.

It's nice to see people who claimed that RHCP was the only band that mattered finding out their favorite group went from being 'cutting edge' to 'mainstream' to an 'oldies act'.

That's that march of time kids so come join me while I yell at kids to get off my lawn.

Great post; pretty much sums it up.

Also, every generation "thinks" their generation has/had the best music. It's a nastolgia thing I guess. My personal favorite example: I hate Jimi Hendrix's music and his guitar playing. I don't like much of the Woodstock-type music of that time. It was generation behind me and I really don't like 90% of it.

I think of it like this: Music is so subjective just like movies, actors, cars, computers, best cities to live in, etc. Most things in life are like that and it is what it is. That said, I really enjoy music threads the best though on Fark.

SubBass49:brap: It's usually more fun to make up band names than to have to sit through them anyway. I only want to be a musician so I can rename the band at every gig. I was actually in a band that did this so we could get the same people to show up at our gigs on consecutive nights.

My brother's old band used to be named Tonight's Special Guest. It was a fun way to mess with people. Then they signed on to be Vokab Kompany's live band. He no longer plays in the group due to some personal falling-outs, but it was a fun run while it lasted. He's featured playing guitar on an epic live jam at the Lightning in a Bottle festival a few years back, but most of VK's studio stuff doesn't feature live players (part of the reason for the falling out).

Anyway...

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A band my old band used to play with a lot up in DC was called "To Be Determined". TBD played everywhere it seemed.

Many people think that while they're young. And while the internet has opened up new avenues for greater exposure for more acts, hardly anybody's interested in hearing any of it. The major labels, despite what you tell yourself, still control well over 90% of what people hear. And the major labels, along with the radio conglomerates, are more conservative than ever. They're not going to take a chance on a band like Primus, Morphine, Cake or even something as tame and conventional as Radiohead. They want stuff that's easy to sell, and that's all they care about. As far as Pandora and similar sites go, most people use it to listen to stuff that's already popular.

orange whip:Many people think that while they're young. And while the internet has opened up new avenues for greater exposure for more acts, hardly anybody's interested in hearing any of it. The major labels, despite what you tell yourself, still control well over 90% of what people hear. And the major labels, along with the radio conglomerates, are more conservative than ever. They're not going to take a chance on a band like Primus, Morphine, Cake or even something as tame and conventional as Radiohead. They want stuff that's easy to sell, and that's all they care about. As far as Pandora and similar sites go, most people use it to listen to stuff that's already popular.

THIS

It is an example of what people, who think their taste is superior, want to believe, and not what is actually happening. What's happening is that radio stations play what is most popular - they are a commercial endeavor. There's less money in lower ratings. When Nickelback stops selling millions of albums and thousands of concert tickets, you will likely not hear them as often.

It is not about some big scary corporation/conglomerate.

It is not about "control".

The entertainment industry is an industry, not a free art fair. I'm as tired of Nickelback as you are. But, I've made a decent career in the entertainment industry, and no one forces me to listen to every song I play on the radio.

Perhaps I'm just too musically narrow-minded, but I'd much rather attend a festival with a less eclectic variety of artists. There are a handful of bands playing Coachella that I'd like to see, but I'd rather not have to sit through all the other bands that hold no interest for me as well as having to purchase a more expensive ticket for this inconvenience. However, I might reconsider if that naked wizard guy was guaranteed to be there.

Walter Paisley:Perhaps I'm just too musically narrow-minded, but I'd much rather attend a festival with a less eclectic variety of artists. There are a handful of bands playing Coachella that I'd like to see, but I'd rather not have to sit through all the other bands that hold no interest for me as well as having to purchase a more expensive ticket for this inconvenience. However, I might reconsider if that naked wizard guy was guaranteed to be there.

I don't know if that's narrow-mindedness or just logic. There are far less expensive ways to find new music than to go to a huge festival like Coachella. I mean, I'd be interested in hearing some of those acts, too -- Tegan and Sara? Aesop Rock? Moby? Yes please! -- but perhaps at a smaller, less expensive, and more convenient venue.

Music festivals can be great, but well, the last one I went to was Lilith in 2010 (Philadelphia/Camden), and the lineup was much smaller and, with the possible exception of Sara Bareilles, entirely likable. (And her cover of "Single Ladies" was excellent, even if she was surprisingly dull.) But, uh, the point is, it helps to know what you're getting into. And with Coachella, that's pretty much impossible.

the best era for music is, very simply, when you were in high school. Every generation thinks new music sucks, and their parents music sucked almost worse. At 41, I have to admit I pretty much closed my books to new bands around 20. Sure, I discover new music, but it is incredibly rare. Maybe 2 artists a year.

It's important to note i am not saying new music sucks, or that there hasn't been great music in the last 20 years. I just don't care. Like you, I got saturated and indoctrinated at an early age. Look at your CD collection, I bet 80% is from music you discovered between 15 and 20 years of age.

Angry Buddha:SubBass49: brap: It's usually more fun to make up band names than to have to sit through them anyway. I only want to be a musician so I can rename the band at every gig. I was actually in a band that did this so we could get the same people to show up at our gigs on consecutive nights.

My brother's old band used to be named Tonight's Special Guest. It was a fun way to mess with people. Then they signed on to be Vokab Kompany's live band. He no longer plays in the group due to some personal falling-outs, but it was a fun run while it lasted. He's featured playing guitar on an epic live jam at the Lightning in a Bottle festival a few years back, but most of VK's studio stuff doesn't feature live players (part of the reason for the falling out).

Anyway...

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A band my old band used to play with a lot up in DC was called "To Be Determined". TBD played everywhere it seemed.

The Baron:the best era for music is, very simply, when you were in high school. Every generation thinks new music sucks, and their parents music sucked almost worse. At 41, I have to admit I pretty much closed my books to new bands around 20. Sure, I discover new music, but it is incredibly rare. Maybe 2 artists a year.

It's important to note i am not saying new music sucks, or that there hasn't been great music in the last 20 years. I just don't care. Like you, I got saturated and indoctrinated at an early age. Look at your CD collection, I bet 80% is from music you discovered between 15 and 20 years of age.

I'm 53 and I get really charged up when I come across a new act. Its happened more in the past two years than it has in the past twenty. You just have to keep your ears and your mind open

Summerfest is supposed to be the worlds largest music festival, but it suuuuuuucks. Seeing the lineups for Coachella and Lollapalooza and Bonnaroo just makes me angry. Raise the goddamn ticket prices and book some acts that arent 10 years old.

Cyno01:Summerfest is supposed to be the worlds largest music festival, but it suuuuuuucks. Seeing the lineups for Coachella and Lollapalooza and Bonnaroo just makes me angry. Raise the goddamn ticket prices and book some acts that arent 10 years old.

FuryOfFirestorm:LewDux: FuryOfFirestorm: Just goes to show that some hipsters aren't there for the bands...they're just there for the free drugs, the drunk chicks flashing their tits and to be seen.

hip·ster [hip-ster] noun Slang. 1. person who likes free drugs, chicks with tits and being in public places

Her'es the updated definition:

hip·ster [hip-ster] noun Slang. 1. person who says he's there to see Metric, The Postal Service, Blur and The Stone Roses, but won't admit he's really there to see tits he'll never get to touch in a million years and keep screaming at Modest Mouse play "Float On", like those idiots that yell for "Freebird" at Skynyrd concerts.

The Baron:the best era for music is, very simply, when you were in high school. Every generation thinks new music sucks, and their parents music sucked almost worse. At 41, I have to admit I pretty much closed my books to new bands around 20. Sure, I discover new music, but it is incredibly rare. Maybe 2 artists a year.

It's important to note i am not saying new music sucks, or that there hasn't been great music in the last 20 years. I just don't care. Like you, I got saturated and indoctrinated at an early age. Look at your CD collection, I bet 80% is from music you discovered between 15 and 20 years of age.

That's, just like, your opinion, man.

Those years can be formative but I like music way too much to just be stuck in a rut. The bands I listen to the most are from all years, some recordings from the '40s all the way up to a couple months ago. Buckethead is my new favorite and I just got into him a few years ago at the ripe old age of 32.

I might listen to a couple songs from bands I liked when I 15 and 20 but for the most part a lot of that stuff doesn't hit me like it used to.

busy chillin':The Baron: the best era for music is, very simply, when you were in high school. Every generation thinks new music sucks, and their parents music sucked almost worse. At 41, I have to admit I pretty much closed my books to new bands around 20. Sure, I discover new music, but it is incredibly rare. Maybe 2 artists a year.

It's important to note i am not saying new music sucks, or that there hasn't been great music in the last 20 years. I just don't care. Like you, I got saturated and indoctrinated at an early age. Look at your CD collection, I bet 80% is from music you discovered between 15 and 20 years of age.

Most people's musical tastes are imprinted between the ages of 20 and 28 with an average of 24 years. This is the psychological foundation for the business behind festivals like Coachella. Music promoters are not dumb, they understand exactly what they are doing when the target a certain demographic.

worlddan:busy chillin': The Baron: the best era for music is, very simply, when you were in high school. Every generation thinks new music sucks, and their parents music sucked almost worse. At 41, I have to admit I pretty much closed my books to new bands around 20. Sure, I discover new music, but it is incredibly rare. Maybe 2 artists a year.

It's important to note i am not saying new music sucks, or that there hasn't been great music in the last 20 years. I just don't care. Like you, I got saturated and indoctrinated at an early age. Look at your CD collection, I bet 80% is from music you discovered between 15 and 20 years of age.

That's, just like, your opinion, man.

His opinion buttressed by a several scientific studies. For example, http://ideas.repec.org/a/ucp/jconrs/v16y1989i1p119-24.html

Most people's musical tastes are imprinted between the ages of 20 and 28 with an average of 24 years. This is the psychological foundation for the business behind festivals like Coachella. Music promoters are not dumb, they understand exactly what they are doing when the target a certain demographic.

FTLink:Preferences toward popular music appear to reflect tastes acquired during late adolescence or early adulthood.

So, does that mean if you love rock and roll when you are 18 you will love rock and roll when you are 48. I can go with that.

Or does it mean if you love Guns N' Roses when you are 18 you will love Guns N' Roses when you are 48...because I can't go for that.I still love Appetite but f*ck me if I am ever gonna sit down and play it front to back ever again.

But my neighbor was the perfect example of what y'all are talking about. Classic rock station every damn day after day after day after day after day after day. Seriously, I can't do it.