Re: Telepathy & UFOs

From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul>
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:52:58 -0500
Archived: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:31:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Telepathy & UFOs
>From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>>To: post.nul>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:08:25 -0500>Subject: Re: Telepathy & UFOs>>From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul>>>To: post.nul>>Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 16:23:48 -0500>>Subject: Telepath & UFOs [was: Prayer Meditation Cause...]>>>From: Diana Cammack<cammack.nul>>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto<post.nul>>>>Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:19:32 +0200>>>Subject: Re: Prayer Meditation Cause 'White Orbs' To Respond>>>>Source: UfoExaminer.Com>>>>http://tinyurl.com/c4muyt6>>>>December 15, 2011>>>>Witness Says Prayer, Meditation Cause 'White Orbs' To Respond>>>>Roger Marsh>>><snip>>>>Praying, meditating, shining a light and concentrating, or what>>>Tim Good does, 'projecting thoughts' - all much the same really.>>>But the question is, how (let alone why!) do these orbs and ETs>>>pick up a single person's thinking out of the chaos of all our>>>thoughts beaming out from earth to space? Also, what about the>>>thoughts we don't want to share with anyone else - do those get>>>sent out there too, to be heard by ETs and orbs? How>>>disconcerting is that!?>>In 1997 I had a daylight sighting of multiple orbs hovering in>>the sky over my house in Queens, N.Y. I was thinking/wishing>>that they would come closer so I could get a better look at>>them. Instantly, as if in response to my request, one of the>>orbs broke formation and rapidly descended toward me.>>It executed a long, low sweeping arc overhead. At its closest>>point of approach the object couldn't have been more than 3/400>>ft. over my head. It displayed a disc-shape, dull silver>>surface, completely silent. I am convinced that the>>object/occupant(s) had _responded_ to my mental request.>>The other one I wanted to share was a response to a question I>>had asked Budd Hopkins. I was visiting with Budd at his studio>>in NY back in 93'/94' and the conversation centered on hybrids.>>As he spoke, he betrayed a bit of fear, apprehension in regard>>to these alleged hybrids. I asked what it was he feared about>>them and he responded: "They can read your mind, get inside your>>head. I don't like that.">>I have never had anything to hide. I have (from necessity)>>thought about telepathy and all its implications. Never feared>>it though.>>Budd's response made me wonder, more than the obvious invasion>>of privacy, that many people have 'little secrets, little>>traumas, little hurts,' that they don't want anybody to see.>>Perhaps things they feel deep shame over; weaknesses,>>shortcomings, major hidden flaws. His response really drove home>>to me how very primal the fear is of someone/something else>>being able to peruse the content of our minds. To share that>>very personal space.>>Telepathy plays a huge role in anything related to abduction of>>human beings by whoever, whatever is responsible. I pay very>>close attention to any reports/accounts of UFO contact involving>>telepathy/mind to mind contact. It is one component of the>>phenomenon that receives very little time or attention. Yet, it>>is one of the single most revealing aspects.>Hello John,>I can understand the attraction of the source/receiver model of>communication to account for what we call telepathy.
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>I think it is more likely that>the UFO existed somehow inside your own personal psychic>boundary unbeknownst to your conscious mind. I would suggest>that the UFO was nonetheless physical and visible to anyone with>you. This model says that you were a participant in creating the>sighting at some unconscious level, so you may naturally have>had some conscious control over the UFO's behavior.
You're not serious are you? So you apparently favor a
'Merlinian' explanation for my report. Something involving
conjuring physical objects out of the subconscious.
William, there were -two- other witnesses (my wife and a friend
of my son who was visiting at the time,) and it seems a bit more
plausible to me that three individuals observing the same
phenomena saw what they say they saw, as opposed to one person
'conjuring' up a vision from their subconscious that was then
witnessed by others. I'd believe 'spacemen' before I'd believe
it was a physical manifestation of my subconscious mind - that
others could also see. Talk about stretching credulity. I
thought I was bad!
I'm sure you'd like to think that it must be some unconscious
manifestation because it makes it so much easier to dismiss the
alternative explanation. ie; We saw what we saw - objects of
unknown origin or manufacture. I can tell you with sober
certainty that what we witnessed was 'there' and I think it's
much more of a stretch to think it was a 'mental construct'
which assumed physical form and was then independently observed
by three individuals.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... <grin>
John
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