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So the FBU think this action is extremely dangerous? They obviously haven't thought this one through very well. Presumably they think their own actions in regularly going on strike is not extremely dangerous!

So the FBU think this action is extremely dangerous? They obviously haven't thought this one through very well. Presumably they think their own actions in regularly going on strike is not extremely dangerous!Say It As It Is OK?

So the FBU think this action is extremely dangerous? They obviously haven't thought this one through very well. Presumably they think their own actions in regularly going on strike is not extremely dangerous!

Score: 22

angryman!!! says...10:41am Mon 11 Aug 14

I agree with above, have no sympathy for firefighters while they constantly use the FBU to try and bully everyone to keep their lucritave perks. With modern fire precautions the need and requirement for firefighters has dwindled, however they seem to have the least cut backs compared to police and forces who's work has increased dramatically. And nurses have always been underpaid and have prob the worst job of them all but don't seem to use industrial action every other day. There is a reason the list to join the fire bridge is so long!

I agree with above, have no sympathy for firefighters while they constantly use the FBU to try and bully everyone to keep their lucritave perks.
With modern fire precautions the need and requirement for firefighters has dwindled, however they seem to have the least cut backs compared to police and forces who's work has increased dramatically. And nurses have always been underpaid and have prob the worst job of them all but don't seem to use industrial action every other day.
There is a reason the list to join the fire bridge is so long!angryman!!!

I agree with above, have no sympathy for firefighters while they constantly use the FBU to try and bully everyone to keep their lucritave perks. With modern fire precautions the need and requirement for firefighters has dwindled, however they seem to have the least cut backs compared to police and forces who's work has increased dramatically. And nurses have always been underpaid and have prob the worst job of them all but don't seem to use industrial action every other day. There is a reason the list to join the fire bridge is so long!

Score: 16

donttellanyone says...11:02am Mon 11 Aug 14

Honestly that is what you get for going on strike your pensions are not affordable so cut back have to be made. The union are there own worst enemy now people will lose jobs which could have been all saved.

Honestly that is what you get for going on strike your pensions are not affordable so cut back have to be made. The union are there own worst enemy now people will lose jobs which could have been all saved.donttellanyone

Honestly that is what you get for going on strike your pensions are not affordable so cut back have to be made. The union are there own worst enemy now people will lose jobs which could have been all saved.

Score: 15

Shrubendlad says...12:13pm Mon 11 Aug 14

What do Mr Quince and Mr Russell have to say about this? Speak Up!! Mr Quince wants the town to develop-so surely the number of firefighters need to be retained+working practices made more flexible. Mr Russell on the other hand has always opposed growth-so maybe 48 is too many.

What do Mr Quince and Mr Russell have to say about this? Speak Up!!
Mr Quince wants the town to develop-so surely the number of firefighters need to be retained+working practices made more flexible.
Mr Russell on the other hand has always opposed growth-so maybe 48 is too many.Shrubendlad

What do Mr Quince and Mr Russell have to say about this? Speak Up!! Mr Quince wants the town to develop-so surely the number of firefighters need to be retained+working practices made more flexible. Mr Russell on the other hand has always opposed growth-so maybe 48 is too many.

Score: 17

Ontheball says...12:16pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Whilst I am not that supportive of the strikes, the thing that comes out of this reduction in manpower, is that as Colchester only has two full time pumping appliances for a town of nearly 200,000 people, and it also has the largest station ground in the whole of Essex. To man the aerial platform one of the two pumps will need to be taken off the road to supply a crew for it. The town is then reliant on part-time crews to support the town station and these are notoriously unreliable as they are often unable to raise a crew themselves! Just wait for an incident to take place that would have needed all three Colchester engines and people are killed due a lack of rescources!!!

Whilst I am not that supportive of the strikes, the thing that comes out of this reduction in manpower, is that as Colchester only has two full time pumping appliances for a town of nearly 200,000 people, and it also has the largest station ground in the whole of Essex. To man the aerial platform one of the two pumps will need to be taken off the road to supply a crew for it. The town is then reliant on part-time crews to support the town station and these are notoriously unreliable as they are often unable to raise a crew themselves!
Just wait for an incident to take place that would have needed all three Colchester engines and people are killed due a lack of rescources!!!Ontheball

Whilst I am not that supportive of the strikes, the thing that comes out of this reduction in manpower, is that as Colchester only has two full time pumping appliances for a town of nearly 200,000 people, and it also has the largest station ground in the whole of Essex. To man the aerial platform one of the two pumps will need to be taken off the road to supply a crew for it. The town is then reliant on part-time crews to support the town station and these are notoriously unreliable as they are often unable to raise a crew themselves! Just wait for an incident to take place that would have needed all three Colchester engines and people are killed due a lack of rescources!!!

Score: -10

Closeguard says...2:48pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Firefighters think they are hard done by because they will now have to work till 60 well join the club. They are always moaning about not being paid enough and moaning about pensions, what the firemen and women keep to themselves is the part time jobs they have. All this going on strike every other day is getting boring now. FBU get a grip

Firefighters think they are hard done by because they will now have to work till 60 well join the club. They are always moaning about not being paid enough and moaning about pensions, what the firemen and women keep to themselves is the part time jobs they have. All this going on strike every other day is getting boring now. FBU get a gripCloseguard

Firefighters think they are hard done by because they will now have to work till 60 well join the club. They are always moaning about not being paid enough and moaning about pensions, what the firemen and women keep to themselves is the part time jobs they have. All this going on strike every other day is getting boring now. FBU get a grip

Score: 28

Harry.Brown says...4:39pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Moonlighting has always been the way even with the Ambulance service as well. One bloke was running a paper vending machine paper cup filling service. How the f*ck they do this on shifts one beggars? The 12 hour continental shift system is to blame, as it gives 4 to 5 clear days off in some cases, in each rota. The police retire at about 51 to 53 so these boys should be treated the same. There seems to be an attempt at parity with the ambulance service for some odd reason ? I think maybe make them all redundant now and then renegotiate the contracts see what pans out ? Get them to all reply for their jobs during redundancy, they did it in Leisure at the council some years ago, it worked then. The real reason is the unions, they don't want to loose their power or their cushy numbers is it not ?

Moonlighting has always been the way even with the Ambulance service as well. One bloke was running a paper vending machine paper cup filling service. How the f*ck they do this on shifts one beggars? The 12 hour continental shift system is to blame, as it gives 4 to 5 clear days off in some cases, in each rota. The police retire at about 51 to 53 so these boys should be treated the same. There seems to be an attempt at parity with the ambulance service for some odd reason ? I think maybe make them all redundant now and then renegotiate the contracts see what pans out ? Get them to all reply for their jobs during redundancy, they did it in Leisure at the council some years ago, it worked then. The real reason is the unions, they don't want to loose their power or their cushy numbers is it not ?Harry.Brown

Moonlighting has always been the way even with the Ambulance service as well. One bloke was running a paper vending machine paper cup filling service. How the f*ck they do this on shifts one beggars? The 12 hour continental shift system is to blame, as it gives 4 to 5 clear days off in some cases, in each rota. The police retire at about 51 to 53 so these boys should be treated the same. There seems to be an attempt at parity with the ambulance service for some odd reason ? I think maybe make them all redundant now and then renegotiate the contracts see what pans out ? Get them to all reply for their jobs during redundancy, they did it in Leisure at the council some years ago, it worked then. The real reason is the unions, they don't want to loose their power or their cushy numbers is it not ?

Score: 14

twiceasnice2002 says...7:52pm Mon 11 Aug 14

So many people think firefighters have the life of Riley. This is very misinformed. My friend is a firefighter and has to undertake part time work to subsidise his below average income to support his family. Surely people can understand that it is not feasible to have a 60 year old doing that type of work or do we all have the attitude that they should do what the rest of us do, this is just ridiculous. The bitterness displayed here should be towards our government who see fit to slash all of our emergency services and NHS to the bare bone. Yes nurses work hard and do not get paid as well as they should but that doesn't mean that everyone else should get the same treatment. We should be supporting our services who spend weekends, nights and many a Christmas day away from their families to nurse, rescue and protect us, the general public. We will soon have something to say about it if Colchester has no cover when needed and human life is the cost paid.

So many people think firefighters have the life of Riley. This is very misinformed. My friend is a firefighter and has to undertake part time work to subsidise his below average income to support his family. Surely people can understand that it is not feasible to have a 60 year old doing that type of work or do we all have the attitude that they should do what the rest of us do, this is just ridiculous. The bitterness displayed here should be towards our government who see fit to slash all of our emergency services and NHS to the bare bone. Yes nurses work hard and do not get paid as well as they should but that doesn't mean that everyone else should get the same treatment. We should be supporting our services who spend weekends, nights and many a Christmas day away from their families to nurse, rescue and protect us, the general public. We will soon have something to say about it if Colchester has no cover when needed and human life is the cost paid.twiceasnice2002

So many people think firefighters have the life of Riley. This is very misinformed. My friend is a firefighter and has to undertake part time work to subsidise his below average income to support his family. Surely people can understand that it is not feasible to have a 60 year old doing that type of work or do we all have the attitude that they should do what the rest of us do, this is just ridiculous. The bitterness displayed here should be towards our government who see fit to slash all of our emergency services and NHS to the bare bone. Yes nurses work hard and do not get paid as well as they should but that doesn't mean that everyone else should get the same treatment. We should be supporting our services who spend weekends, nights and many a Christmas day away from their families to nurse, rescue and protect us, the general public. We will soon have something to say about it if Colchester has no cover when needed and human life is the cost paid.

Score: -18

Mythbuster says...11:14pm Mon 11 Aug 14

You must not get confused between national industrial action in defence of pensions, with a local campaign to save YOUR Fire & Rescue Service. That said, if you honestly expect or even want a 60 year old Firefighter attempting to save you or your children from a blazing house at three in the morning then just carry on supporting the Government's hair brained unworkable plans. The proposals are hugely unfair to female Firefighters and will only risk the lives of Firefighters and the Public. This is not about the Union or even the Firefighters, this is about the Service that most people pay for and the excellent response you have come to expect from the Fire Brigade. The Rescue Tender, and the Aerial Ladder Platform are owned by the public and are tools to facilitate you and your families being rescued from a crashed vehicle or burning building. The Unions will always stand and fight because they are the only ones with the information and authority to challenge poor decision making on behalf of the public. Whether you agree with strike action or not is another argument, that should not blur the mind over the right to expect a first class emergency response. Strike action is always a last resort, but if a few hours without normal fire cover results in another fifteen years with a first class service then it has to be a sacrifice worth making?

You must not get confused between national industrial action in defence of pensions, with a local campaign to save YOUR Fire & Rescue Service. That said, if you honestly expect or even want a 60 year old Firefighter attempting to save you or your children from a blazing house at three in the morning then just carry on supporting the Government's hair brained unworkable plans. The proposals are hugely unfair to female Firefighters and will only risk the lives of Firefighters and the Public. This is not about the Union or even the Firefighters, this is about the Service that most people pay for and the excellent response you have come to expect from the Fire Brigade. The Rescue Tender, and the Aerial Ladder Platform are owned by the public and are tools to facilitate you and your families being rescued from a crashed vehicle or burning building. The Unions will always stand and fight because they are the only ones with the information and authority to challenge poor decision making on behalf of the public. Whether you agree with strike action or not is another argument, that should not blur the mind over the right to expect a first class emergency response. Strike action is always a last resort, but if a few hours without normal fire cover results in another fifteen years with a first class service then it has to be a sacrifice worth making?Mythbuster

You must not get confused between national industrial action in defence of pensions, with a local campaign to save YOUR Fire & Rescue Service. That said, if you honestly expect or even want a 60 year old Firefighter attempting to save you or your children from a blazing house at three in the morning then just carry on supporting the Government's hair brained unworkable plans. The proposals are hugely unfair to female Firefighters and will only risk the lives of Firefighters and the Public. This is not about the Union or even the Firefighters, this is about the Service that most people pay for and the excellent response you have come to expect from the Fire Brigade. The Rescue Tender, and the Aerial Ladder Platform are owned by the public and are tools to facilitate you and your families being rescued from a crashed vehicle or burning building. The Unions will always stand and fight because they are the only ones with the information and authority to challenge poor decision making on behalf of the public. Whether you agree with strike action or not is another argument, that should not blur the mind over the right to expect a first class emergency response. Strike action is always a last resort, but if a few hours without normal fire cover results in another fifteen years with a first class service then it has to be a sacrifice worth making?

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