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I wish it were as simple as that Robert. The Loyalist majority have had to give a lot of ground to get where we were a short while ago. I thought that re-branding the RUC would have been the flash point but that was to come later, by taking down the Union flag from Belfast City Hall. (All but 18 days a year) Sinn Fein IRA are expert in winding up Loyalists in Northern Ireland and the casting votes Alliance Councillors should have known better than to take away the key Union symbol from the majority. So, now you know who to put in the mental hospitals. Actually Robert, I think Mrs Thatcher re-named then as 'care in the community.'

I wish it were as simple as that Robert.
The Loyalist majority have had to give a lot of ground to get where we were a short while ago.
I thought that re-branding the RUC would have been the flash point but that was to come later, by taking down the Union flag from Belfast City Hall. (All but 18 days a year)
Sinn Fein IRA are expert in winding up Loyalists in Northern Ireland and the casting votes Alliance Councillors should have known better than to take away the key Union symbol from the majority.
So, now you know who to put in the mental hospitals. Actually Robert, I think Mrs Thatcher re-named then as 'care in the community.'ColdAsChristmas

I wish it were as simple as that Robert. The Loyalist majority have had to give a lot of ground to get where we were a short while ago. I thought that re-branding the RUC would have been the flash point but that was to come later, by taking down the Union flag from Belfast City Hall. (All but 18 days a year) Sinn Fein IRA are expert in winding up Loyalists in Northern Ireland and the casting votes Alliance Councillors should have known better than to take away the key Union symbol from the majority. So, now you know who to put in the mental hospitals. Actually Robert, I think Mrs Thatcher re-named then as 'care in the community.'

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Oncebittentwiceshy says...1:23am Thu 17 Jan 13

What a load of garbage, the loyalist people are not respenced by this bunch of hoods, the everyday loyalist wants to see Belfast move on and live inpeace like the rest of us. These people who ruin or streets are nothing more than mindless thugs who when not getting what they want throw the toys of of their prams and decide to hold Belfast to ransom by using the only way they know FEAR, its time they moved on and let us get on with living. I wonder how many of these patroits rise at dawn to raise their own flag and lower it at dusk id say not too many if any at all, its playground politics I think spoilt children should be ignored

What a load of garbage, the loyalist people are not respenced by this bunch of hoods, the everyday loyalist wants to see Belfast move on and live inpeace like the rest of us. These people who ruin or streets are nothing more than mindless thugs who when not getting what they want throw the toys of of their prams and decide to hold Belfast to ransom by using the only way they know FEAR, its time they moved on and let us get on with living. I wonder how many of these patroits rise at dawn to raise their own flag and lower it at dusk id say not too many if any at all, its playground politics I think spoilt children should be ignoredOncebittentwiceshy

What a load of garbage, the loyalist people are not respenced by this bunch of hoods, the everyday loyalist wants to see Belfast move on and live inpeace like the rest of us. These people who ruin or streets are nothing more than mindless thugs who when not getting what they want throw the toys of of their prams and decide to hold Belfast to ransom by using the only way they know FEAR, its time they moved on and let us get on with living. I wonder how many of these patroits rise at dawn to raise their own flag and lower it at dusk id say not too many if any at all, its playground politics I think spoilt children should be ignored

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Micklegate says...4:03pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Oncebittentwiceshy wrote…

What a load of garbage, the loyalist people are not respenced by this bunch of hoods, the everyday loyalist wants to see Belfast move on and live inpeace like the rest of us. These people who ruin or streets are nothing more than mindless thugs who when not getting what they want throw the toys of of their prams and decide to hold Belfast to ransom by using the only way they know FEAR, its time they moved on and let us get on with living. I wonder how many of these patroits rise at dawn to raise their own flag and lower it at dusk id say not too many if any at all, its playground politics I think spoilt children should be ignored

It's not fair to say it's garbage. Yes people want to move on but the flags have been a realisation for many that the key poitical things are one way, drip drip to a united Ireland and for many the Belfast flag as their capital's town hall is the final straw (even though it's only now inline with many other NI town cities). The feelings and some of the protests are certainly being used by the UVF and especially in East Belfast for the general issue of whether East Belfast or the Shankill runs the UVF in the future, whether it will move to total peace and as a threat on the damage it can do if the Historical Enquiries Team stirs things up more and more (plus drugs/criminal influence). However it's felt (rightly or wrongly) especially in working class loyalism that things are one way. SF and the SDLP (and the Alliance) are doing a gradual erosion of Britishness and many are now objecting. NI is secure whilst there is a Protestant majority, but that's not for much longer; then there will be calls for a referendum and then when NI really looks under threat it will all start again.

[quote][p][bold]Oncebittentwiceshy[/bold] wrote:
What a load of garbage, the loyalist people are not respenced by this bunch of hoods, the everyday loyalist wants to see Belfast move on and live inpeace like the rest of us. These people who ruin or streets are nothing more than mindless thugs who when not getting what they want throw the toys of of their prams and decide to hold Belfast to ransom by using the only way they know FEAR, its time they moved on and let us get on with living. I wonder how many of these patroits rise at dawn to raise their own flag and lower it at dusk id say not too many if any at all, its playground politics I think spoilt children should be ignored[/p][/quote]It's not fair to say it's garbage. Yes people want to move on but the flags have been a realisation for many that the key poitical things are one way, drip drip to a united Ireland and for many the Belfast flag as their capital's town hall is the final straw (even though it's only now inline with many other NI town cities). The feelings and some of the protests are certainly being used by the UVF and especially in East Belfast for the general issue of whether East Belfast or the Shankill runs the UVF in the future, whether it will move to total peace and as a threat on the damage it can do if the Historical Enquiries Team stirs things up more and more (plus drugs/criminal influence). However it's felt (rightly or wrongly) especially in working class loyalism that things are one way.
SF and the SDLP (and the Alliance) are doing a gradual erosion of Britishness and many are now objecting. NI is secure whilst there is a Protestant majority, but that's not for much longer; then there will be calls for a referendum and then when NI really looks under threat it will all start again.Micklegate

Oncebittentwiceshy wrote…

What a load of garbage, the loyalist people are not respenced by this bunch of hoods, the everyday loyalist wants to see Belfast move on and live inpeace like the rest of us. These people who ruin or streets are nothing more than mindless thugs who when not getting what they want throw the toys of of their prams and decide to hold Belfast to ransom by using the only way they know FEAR, its time they moved on and let us get on with living. I wonder how many of these patroits rise at dawn to raise their own flag and lower it at dusk id say not too many if any at all, its playground politics I think spoilt children should be ignored

It's not fair to say it's garbage. Yes people want to move on but the flags have been a realisation for many that the key poitical things are one way, drip drip to a united Ireland and for many the Belfast flag as their capital's town hall is the final straw (even though it's only now inline with many other NI town cities). The feelings and some of the protests are certainly being used by the UVF and especially in East Belfast for the general issue of whether East Belfast or the Shankill runs the UVF in the future, whether it will move to total peace and as a threat on the damage it can do if the Historical Enquiries Team stirs things up more and more (plus drugs/criminal influence). However it's felt (rightly or wrongly) especially in working class loyalism that things are one way. SF and the SDLP (and the Alliance) are doing a gradual erosion of Britishness and many are now objecting. NI is secure whilst there is a Protestant majority, but that's not for much longer; then there will be calls for a referendum and then when NI really looks under threat it will all start again.

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