So DROID X 2.2 Update, What’s the Deal?

One of the more frustrating topics that seems to be getting less play than we feel it should is the Android 2.2 update for the Droid X. You may recall that the DX’s press conference was one of the biggest events in recent history for a single device, claiming some pretty big things, most importantly that Froyo and Flash 10.1 would be just a few short weeks away from launch or by “the end of summer.” Well guess what? We’re almost in early fall and have zero idea as to when this thing might actually drop. No word from Verizon and no word from Motorola has left many of us completely frustrated especially with the growing list of known issues for the device on 2.1.

We’ve seen 2 separate leaks come out, one of which was C&D’d out of existence by Motorola since they refused to provide support for it, and another which most didn’t bother touching after a variety of issues appeared. Personally, I’ve been running the original leak from day 1 and can say that this phone has never run any better. This thing is as close to a final build as you’ll see sans a couple of minor bugs. We’re now a month out from that dropping and still nothing.

What might be even more frustrating than seeing leaks removed though, is the fact that the Droid 2 launched, preloaded with Froyo and Flash. And after seeing it’s system dump playing perfectly well with the leaked 2.2 for the DX, it’s pretty mind boggling as to why we’re still waiting. The hardware on both phones is identical aside from a screen and keyboard, and after using my D2 for a few weeks, I can see that the software is about as close for 2 phones as you’ll find.

Now aside from all of that, we’ve received probably a dozen emails from DX owners over the last 2-3 weeks who have spoken directly with Verizon support and have all been told that the DX update is currently rolling out in batches. Really? For some reason though, we have zero confirmations. And actually, the newest tip we received was pretty specific. The rep mentioned numbers claiming that there 520,000 Droid X’s in the wild and the update is hitting 10,000 of them at a time. By our calculations, that’s 90,000 since we first reported this support rumor, but we sit in silence on the confirmation front.

And lastly, we broke news on this secret Verizon Droid X 2.2 screen on Monday which has been created to send via text message to DX owners once the 2.2 rollout has completed. So the page is there (droiddoes.com/2.2x), still live, just waiting and teasing all of us. Should we continue to think the update is just days away? Or are we back to thinking it’s months away? Or is it actually rolling out now? What?

Without standing on a soap box demanding an answer, don’t we have reason enough to at least ask Big Red and Moto what’s up? Don’t we at least deserve some sort of update on progress? Most people bought this device with the understanding that it would be at the forefront of the Android game, but it’s really just been falling behind.

Thoughts? Feel free to vent after a couple of Friday happy hour pints, just keep it clean.

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It takes longer because each phone handles Android different, so Motorola has to make it so that Android 2.2 isn’t waiting for physical keystrokes along with “touch”strokes. Basic programming dictates that this makes it simpler and more stable, speeding up releases in the future. It’s slow, but it’s worth it in the long run.

Screw MotoGIMProla and Verizon. I'm going to root this Droid X and install the latest leaked Froyo 2.2 update. It's stable and works exceedingly well. Then I will never EVER buy a MotoGIMProla phone as long as I live. That is my oath and my promise.

Fool me once, shame on you ….. I should have known better than to buy from a has been corporate monster like Motorola in the first place.

Grapvine Dj Merlot

Do not get me Fing started! I WANT my fing 2.2 Verizon

Evermour

very clean 😉

peggsie

Assuming the Droid X gets Froyo, what other Verizon phones have or will have Froyo WITHOUT a Qwerty keypad.

Buschchris1

I try to think of things an dlearn from the past expereinces. I left RIMM after buying a BB storm first gen, only to be pleagued with problems and then have BB Stor 2 follow with WiFi. Then empty promisies of updates, by the end of my 2 year with verizon, i was eager to get the Droid X. I watched it, read about it and anticipated having the last phone I will ever need er want.

IT was going to have 2.2 OS, tethering, Flash and so on. COme to find its got 2.1 OS, no flash and a WiFI with no Proxy settings ( i cant use it at work) and a feature of the phone, governed by verizon ( hot spot tethering).

It was like Daja Vu all over again. My storm went through the same process, every update brought more problem despite fixing some small ones, and brought more and more advertisements and restrictions to the phones potential.

I believe that this is the same for Droid X. I believe that since they decided to relaes with 2.1 andnot 2.2 from the get go, Verizon is having problems because now users are ROOTING their phones like I have and removed the BLOATWARE and Advertisments force on the owner by Verizon and Google Android.

Who is to balme here? Well I place it on Verizon untill they can prove other wise because I have had a rough past and have exposed them before conning millions out of customers and if I only had a lawyer and money, would have done something. Lets keep on topic though.

I think, and again this is a thought and dont take this as fact, but I believe that Motorola made a great phone with great hardware features. I also think that Google added the OS and snuk in some advertisements in conjunction with Verizon who also gets kick backs.

I beleive that the update is long ago finished and ready and Verizon is screwing around with it, trying to ensure they can keep user from unlocking the Tethering and using it for free like I have done. I dont use it, but I like knowing I can. They want to fins ways to make the 2.2. OS un rootable and keep things restricted so they can charge money. I also think the may have screwed up and now dont know what to do. Motoroal is probably not able to say anything legaly, nor google or verizon without all in agreement, so that is probably why we havent heard anything.

Motorola wont support anyone using the leaked 2.2 update because, well they cant. Because Verizon pushes the updates with their add ons and junk and so they tell users not to because if they do, they wont get the update with the advertisments and Verizon wont share their cut of the profit. Because isnt that what it all come sdown to?

Why is Google doing nothing? especially about the MARKET download issues world wide. The same one I had that I had to fix on my own by re-installing the .apk for CityID which is also required to upgrade to 2.2.

Yeah thats right, when i tried to install the leaked 2.2, it error and I found that it was due tome removing CityID when I rooted the phone. I re-installed it from a backup I had and my Market suddently worked and I could download again. i then decided not to continue with the 2.2 update because I wanted to be a loyal customer and wait patiently.

So that brings us all back to the beginning, when is it comming? We need solid answers not broad, dodging ones.

Also, how can verizon charge for the tethering feature on the phones. I have unlimited data, so Im already paying for that. How can they charge for a feature of the phone, thats like charging to take pictures or use the alarm.

We need cell phone provider Reform, we need to stop them from BS charges and contract cacelation fees.

And most of all, we need real updates and answers and no more lies and half truths from Motorola, Google and Verizon.

We should all call verizon and flood them with calls all weekend so its free, asking them. ” when is dorid X 2.2 comming out, I want a date dammit.” and keep calling them and dont stop.

O.k, o.k im geting carried away here, but im just so frustrated. I think this will be the last smartphone I buy and ones it goes, im going back to basic talk/txt and with the cheapest phone i can find.

Buschchris1

A good spell check would be nice to as I obviously have lots of gramatical errors lol 😀

I try to think of things an dlearn from the past expereinces. I left RIMM after buying a BB storm first gen, only to be pleagued with problems and then have BB Stor 2 follow with WiFi. Then empty promisies of updates, by the end of my 2 year with verizon, i was eager to get the Droid X. I watched it, read about it and anticipated having the last phone I will ever need er want.

IT was going to have 2.2 OS, tethering, Flash and so on. COme to find its got 2.1 OS, no flash and a WiFI with no Proxy settings ( i cant use it at work) and a feature of the phone, governed by verizon ( hot spot tethering).

It was like Daja Vu all over again. My storm went through the same process, every update brought more problem despite fixing some small ones, and brought more and more advertisements and restrictions to the phones potential.

I believe that this is the same for Droid X. I believe that since they decided to relaes with 2.1 andnot 2.2 from the get go, Verizon is having problems because now users are ROOTING their phones like I have and removed the BLOATWARE and Advertisments force on the owner by Verizon and Google Android.

Who is to balme here? Well I place it on Verizon untill they can prove other wise because I have had a rough past and have exposed them before conning millions out of customers and if I only had a lawyer and money, would have done something. Lets keep on topic though.

I think, and again this is a thought and dont take this as fact, but I believe that Motorola made a great phone with great hardware features. I also think that Google added the OS and snuk in some advertisements in conjunction with Verizon who also gets kick backs.

I beleive that the update is long ago finished and ready and Verizon is screwing around with it, trying to ensure they can keep user from unlocking the Tethering and using it for free like I have done. I dont use it, but I like knowing I can. They want to fins ways to make the 2.2. OS un rootable and keep things restricted so they can charge money. I also think the may have screwed up and now dont know what to do. Motoroal is probably not able to say anything legaly, nor google or verizon without all in agreement, so that is probably why we havent heard anything.

Motorola wont support anyone using the leaked 2.2 update because, well they cant. Because Verizon pushes the updates with their add ons and junk and so they tell users not to because if they do, they wont get the update with the advertisments and Verizon wont share their cut of the profit. Because isnt that what it all come sdown to?

Why is Google doing nothing? especially about the MARKET download issues world wide. The same one I had that I had to fix on my own by re-installing the .apk for CityID which is also required to upgrade to 2.2.

Yeah thats right, when i tried to install the leaked 2.2, it error and I found that it was due tome removing CityID when I rooted the phone. I re-installed it from a backup I had and my Market suddently worked and I could download again. i then decided not to continue with the 2.2 update because I wanted to be a loyal customer and wait patiently.

So that brings us all back to the beginning, when is it comming? We need solid answers not broad, dodging ones.

Also, how can verizon charge for the tethering feature on the phones. I have unlimited data, so Im already paying for that. How can they charge for a feature of the phone, thats like charging to take pictures or use the alarm.

We need cell phone provider Reform, we need to stop them from BS charges and contract cacelation fees.

And most of all, we need real updates and answers and no more lies and half truths from Motorola, Google and Verizon.

We should all call verizon and flood them with calls all weekend so its free, asking them. ” when is dorid X 2.2 comming out, I want a date dammit.” and keep calling them and dont stop.

O.k, o.k im geting carried away here, but im just so frustrated. I think this will be the last smartphone I buy and ones it goes, im going back to basic talk/txt and with the cheapest phone i can find.

JTE

There's definitely conflicting reports out there. A few people have said they received the OTA update. A few weeks ago we read that users could “pull” the update to their phones when it was ready. When I check for updates, it says there are none available. So do I believe the people who say they received it or Verizon saying we can manually update?

CharlieK

It's my understanding that after 2.2 we'll be able to pull updates from that point on. We should be able to pull gingerbread in December rather than have to wait for it to be pushed.

Dev Guy

What is everyone complaining about. Its not like Verizon promised the Droid X would be the first phone with flash…….

Coming from a Storm 1, I must be some sort of glutton for punishment as far as phones are concerned. I figured by going with an Android based phone, I'd get some sort of customer sevis. Seems like they're ignoring this phone just like they did with my Storm. Go figure.

Oh well, at least it's not an Apple product.

Jduro923

WTF IS UP WITH MOTOROLA!

Rain_king46

I just dont get any of this. I was pretty clear back in July that both Verizon and Moto's intent was for the DX to be the flagship I know that the sales pitch and advertising in my local Verizon store certainly suggested this. I understand upgrading the Incredible and D1 first since they were released first. But now the D2 is out with 2.2 installed on it. A clearly late beta has been “leaked” and still no official update for the DX?? What gives Moto and Verizon?? I spent many hours researching between the Incredible and DX before I finally chose the DX. Please do not make me regret my decision. Support your flagship product and for the love of god stop whining about users customizing, it is what android is all about! Embrace it and move on!

Funktacular

I couldn't agree more. Kellex

Funktacular

I co

Corporatephonecompaniessuckass

Im sick of being exploited by blockbuster just to watch video. DX could be cool if it played even half the games of my itouch by ea or gameloft. Im sick of waiting and everyone else should be too.

anthony

The 2.2 updates started rolling out this morning. They are going by area code and sn.

F150Fan

Just how do you know this? No one is reporting this.

jag28co

NO BS if it was true Matt would had said something about it. lololol

Socalrailroader

Still nothing here in Northwestern California, area code 707.

dredaav

I don't mind waiting as long as when it does drop there are not bugs in it. Take your time Moto and get it right!

Anonymous

its still going to have bugs. No matter how long you wait.

Bvrgv

Sounds like the basis for class action lawsuits- false advertising? Unfair business practices?

Mrpicolas

Realy people stop complaing you want everything right now it'll get here when it gets here if you want it sooner you have the option to root

Aubreyvt

Do u call 2 months “right now”? Its not like they said we might get an update at some point, they said it was soon after the first release.

Mrpicolas

Look I get that you want it but id rather have it without bugs than with

besides what if your update went wrong would you be happy then it needs to

be right for everyone not just a few all of us want it just as bad including

WHAT BUGS, what bugs did the leak have, that came out damn near a month ago

Mrpicolas

Battery manager for one spotty gps and a few other minor things look all im saying is if you want 2.2 now root or wait complaints wont help it get here any quicker

Aubreyvt

All im saying is why can't the customers get a straight answer. Everything is so hush hush with it all. Plus there is so much crap floating around no one knows what to think anymore.

Mrpicolas

Lol for the same reason I can't give my wife a strait answer about the need

to buy yet another phone

Aubreyvt

LOL!!!!! not exactly the same, but ill agree with it. 🙂

jag28co

Thats right minor things Mrpicolas. They are not keeping us informed. Im sure if the come out and say that it will be delay everyone will fell better. but it is tooooooo late for that. i hope the dont say it tomorrow.

Ktmotoxer

This seems to be a continuous trend with Moto. Remiinds me of the days waiting for 2.1 on the Droid 1. Motorola needs to get there $hit together!!! I think maybe they're allowing the Droid 2 to remain in the lime light a little longer, to attract as many customers as possible before DX gets Froyo.

Outraged!

I have been silent on this issue until now. As a droid x owner, I am outraged that we droid x owners have not seen a froyo update! I switched this past summer, from another carrier, to get the droid x with froyo. What a mistake I made. I am outraged with Verizon and am without words how I feel about Motorola. If I could do one thing over from this past summer, I would not have switched to Verizon just to get the droid x with froyo. Verizon lied to us about this issue and they have not apologized or offered an explanation about this issue. Apparently, Verizon feels they are not uncountable to their customers!Outraged!!

Patwww

To be honest, I have the official Froyo on my Inc, and I want 2.1 back!!!! My phone reboots every 15 minutes!!

Aubreyvt

I just saw a new DX comercial, and it stated Driod Does. Hmmmmm, not so sure anymore…….

Xplhavoc

I will not go back to Blackberry Curve ill go with IPHONE 4.At least it has a camera in the front.WTH was Motorola thinking.'All the other even older Droids are updated with 2.2 already!So…. Droid X best phone?No!Trust i dont like apple to much but…..When in Rome!The trend is your friend!If you don't own a business i wouldn't think you would understand.And good luck with any help.If i had apple i can walk in the door and the techs would help.Verizon they don't have a clue.

Oh and PS mine is Rooted!

CrayZme

I got my update!! I got my update!! Wait sorry that was just a mirage! Damn you lack of sleep!

Glen Neubauer

I just spoke with VZW customer service to remove my hot spot feature and they said it has been rolling out and I should get it within the next two weeks. I generally don't put much stock in the first line of customer service, but this chick seemed to know her stuff. Who knows???

Antcruz13

I have had to change my Droid X more than 3 times (2 new ones and one certified new) cause it keeps freezing and just not doing what they promised the phone should do. I spoke to a rep. and they gave me the run around about the phone and tried to troubleshoot the phone. I have done everything they have asked me and still the same situation. I then asked them about the 2.2 update and that’s when they really did not know what to say to me.. lol this is a sad, sad situation .. Droid Does? HA!

Barlog

I went through the exact situation 4 Droid X's later and I finally have one that's in working order but I gave up my D1 with froyo to my sister for this! And I still have to wait for a taste of froyo goodness AGH!!!

R-Rated

When you go to HTC.com wait for the Dinc to scroll across the main box. Then go to learn more. Switch the purchase option to the HTC Store. Then three boxes will appear. At the bottom of the box for full price without a contract will be a green line. Click it and follow the instructions.

Its the same sh!t as the 2.1 update on Droid way back in march, its like “boy who cried wolf”Motorola is faggity company, all i wish that they burn in hell for false ad. Fraud is motorola's favorite thing.

Can you post a screen shot? I believe you…just need to see it with mine own eyes.

F150Fan

Until I see a screenshot, or see something on DL or any of the other reputable blog sites then I call BS. I really hope that I get proven wrong though. Please, prove me wrong!

Djenks24

Motorola, i'm Out.

Aubreyvt

Well said from all. Its the fact that no one from moto or vzw can give a straight answer since i got my DX a month and a half ago. Just let us know a straight answer and we might not be happy but we will at least be some what content.

theo

Ok, I'm done waiting. They said end of summer. If by september 22nd,the first day of fall, there is no update, we all should call Motorola customer support and just flip on them. If we all do this collectively as a group, they may give in a bit. September 22nd, motorola, tread carefully.

Aubreyvt

Time is ticking……. tic tic tic tic. Very slowly too…. if you know what i mean.

joesred

I think what annoyed most all Dx users is the immediate outdated status of purchasing a new phone and the older droids got updates…and still being the new kids on the block (Dx) we are running oldest version

P Winowich

I was one of many who bought this thing based on the 2.2 “rolling out soon”……… still waiting.

Do you think we would be able to return it for a D2 due to false advertising?

DX1138

Please stay on top of this!!!!! I know most DX forums take your word as gospel!!!

Goran1459

Going to file a false advertising law suit on monday.

Drew

I'm thinking that they won't release the update until after Moto's huge R2-D2 Droid2 hunt is over. All their attention is on that at the moment. Why should they care about us DroidX owners being left in the shadows of Star Wars ESB 30 years?,.. We'll get it eventually its just some real crappy customer support!

Kurt

I didn't go through all 195 posts, but I distinctly remember reading an article here a while back that the DX was supposed to be able to “pull” all updates through “system updates”. I can not seem to find it, does anyone else remember this?

Ousooners40

Froyogate !!!!!

JTE

I wouldn't mind waiting if that wasn't what we've been doing for the past month and a half.

Also, it would be really nice to watch some football games on my DX, but it's saturday afternoon and no flash…

This reminds me of the droid 1 and how it was advertised as flash ready but we didn't officially see that for about 8 months

MattInPDX

Here's how bad Verizon is behind. 2 days ago I finally got the announcement email that my Droid 1 would be getting an update to Froyo.

Thank God for your web site as thanks to a friend introducing it to me I have been running a rooted Droid 1 since 2.1.

Bigsike

They better have something big included with this update and not what we have already seen and heard of for making us wait this long ….

feztheforeigner

I'm just getting more and more pissed off by this. My Nexus has had it for literally months

sam127

How on earth does verizion and its empoyees get away with lying to their consumers is there anything any of us can do or do we just roll over and play dead !!!!

sam127

I say we all band together and either file a class action law suit or return our Droid X'S en masse. The only time any of these companies listen is when it hurts their bottom line. I mean I thought false advertising was Illegal!!!!!!

Eric

I think i understand where your coming from but Win 7 is no patch there are so many differences between 7 and Vista.

lakerzz

I don't mind waiting as soon as its truly a bug free build. I guess I don't have much room to talk being that I just recently received my DX, and haven't been waiting as long as most of you.

I was told by a Verizon phone support guy that the update was being rolled out. When I told him that I thought it was disingenious of him to lie to me like that, he sent me to technical support after PROMISING that the tech guy would go ahead and update my phone for me. The tech guy said the first guy didn't know what he was talking about. that the update was not ready and he would hear about it probably a week before they started rolling, and he had heard nothing.

Bait and switch, I thought, was illegal. I bought this phone with the promise from the sales person that 2.2 would be there in 'a couple of weeks.' that was July.

OK i'm sick of waiting and after reading all these posts I don't want to add to the *itch fest. I went through the D1 2.1 delays and the only thing I got out of that was I shouldn't have waited. Someone point me in the direction of DX root instructions and the best leaked 2.2 build…..

Socalrailroader

Well, the first day of Fall is September 22nd, they have four days to meet their “by the end of summer” schedule.

I heard that they're going to release the update on the 21st.I would much rather wait than get anupdate that'll make my phone buggy.

Airrik

2.1 works great on the Droid X soI can only imagine what froyo will do.

Worm4603

got to agree with this one as well

Freygrimrod

Three Words Class Action Lawsuit…. false advertising… you have 5 days to deliver the update verizon or its guaranteed!

Getitopen

I ordered the Droid X and was promised in a email by Verzion Tech support that my new Droid X would be delivered with the 2.2 update already installed. Well it was not…. Very angry at being lied to, verzion offered me the option to return and waived the 35 dollar restock fee. I really like the droid x even if I cant cut and paste within a email. I will give them 2 more weeks to update or Its going back….

prodeng

yes, its late and i made typos…so what

prodeng

simple bottom line, opinions about leaked, etc, aside

I work on a product development team, if i created a similar situation…i would have lost my job by now…but maybe my company just demands more of itself.

the fact is, there might be problems, but being this late…its a lack of effort. I would be working around teh clock if we were in a similar boat and had managed to survive the fallout

i know form experience that they can make all teh excuses they want but at the end of the day…the code munky is being lazy and probably selfishly bitching about “thier time”

i guarentee whoever is responsible for this si a salary employee…sure your paycheck might be stable…but that also means your paid to get the job done…not show up from 8-5

so whoever is responsible for fixing these issues…i hope you are reading this…and implore you to lick my taint you lazy bastard

lakerzz

I think Motorola is just getting frustrated because Verizon keeps denying the builds that Motorola's presenting them…but, they should make sure it's right before presenting it to begin with…idk…uugghh…

Motorola customer service chat told me The update would be out Thursday.

Brian

Never, ever buy a phone for what you think it will become someday or for what someone else claims it will become someday. Buy it for what it is today, when you see it and try it on the sales floor. The only thing the vendor owes you when you buy the device is that the device will operate according to its manual or they will repair it or give you your money back, their choice. That's it. The vendor has no obligation to make your appliance better, faster, stronger, or whatever after the sale.

And never, ever forget that the mission of software is to sell hardware. It wouldn't surprise me at all for something called the Droid X2 to come out and for that new device to be the route to Android 2.2.

As for me, I just keep waiting until a device that meets all of my requirements — hardware, software, price — is sitting there on the sales floor waiting for me to buy it. Droid X with Froyo would do the trick, but guess what? No one sells such a device yet.

The DX rocks. 2.2 will happen and everyone will move on to whining about something else. Happiness cannot hinge on something so small.

Larrydamon

Im getting really frustrated that it is taking so long with no real answers as to why

BRUCE

THE REAL ISSUE IS THE SAME AS OUR POLITICIANS TODAY—THEY CAN'T AND WON'T TELL THE TRUTH–AND ARE AFRAID REAL PEOPLE AND CONSUMERS CAN'T DEAL WITH THE TRUTH—BUT SUPRISE, SURPRISE–LIARS AND PEOPLE WHO SPIN THINGS TO WHAT THEY SEE AS THEIR OWN BENEFIT ALMOST ALWAYS GET CAUGHT UP WITH AND PAY A PRICE–LOST SALES-ELECTIONS ETC.–SO VERIZON AND MOTO NEED TO FESS UP JUST WHAT IS GOING ON–WHAT IS THE REAL REASON FOR THE DEAL–WE CAN TAKE THE TRUTH — BUT WITH NO COMMUNICATIONS COME RUMOR, DECEIT AND FRUSTRATION–AND LOST SALES! WAKE UP!!

Anonymous

You can’t handle the truth!

Buckgrad

Had an original Droid, briefly with 2.2 until non-2.2 related issues forced vzw to send a replacement…then another…then another, until finally they offered me an X, which I jumped at. Original Droid with 2.2 was great, but not as fast as X with 2.1. Anxious to see what my X will be like with 2.2…IF it ever happens. Very disappointing that they are staying silent on the delay. Poor PR.

Strange_creation3000

Im starting to just lose all respect for motorola… their rep. is slowly dissipating

This is so disappointing that Verizon and Motorola treat their loyal customers this way. This phone should have been shipped with Froyo out of the box and it would have been the #1 phone of the year. I really like the phone and my Droid 1's and 2's but HTC and Samsung are about ready to put a positive distance between themselves and Motorola that they will never close. The Droid X should have been the 1st phone to receive the Froyo upgrade especially after we find out that the original Droid does not have enough processor to really support Flash 10.1. That in itself is another big egg in the face of Motorola for promising their customers for months that the Droid was FULLY compatible with flash.

Sean Lesuer

I am highly unhappy with this. I have had my DX for a month now. I switched from tmobile and yes im happier with the service, however i chose the DX for the fact it has the screen i wanted and mostly for its 2.2 update i was told it would receive within a week or two. And here i sit. Still running 2.1. Ouch. Moto and Verizon are making a lot of people not happy. This is getting out of hand. Roll out 2.2 already. I know this thing can run faster and im hungry for flash support. Come on already!

Hey Guys, Just got off the phone with motorola about a totally unrelated issue, my wifi was not connecting the tech rep asked me what version firmware i was currently running on my phone I told her 2.1 update1. I thought that was strange b/c I had just told her I own a DX, which made me ask instantly about 2.2 or if it was in the process of being pushed. She then said hang on let me ask, she came back on and said that verizon will be pushing 2.2 update to phones starting the 21st of this month (Sept). She also said that if your local store has a tech department that they would be able to push it to your device in store….. It got my hopes up 🙂 Lets hope she is not full of *ish

I WANT MY DAM 2.2…COME ON VERIZON WHY ARE U DOING THIS TOO MEE!!!! YOUR USUALLY SO NICE….COME ON!

pappy53

I got tired of the terrible battery life on the X. I know some are getting decent life, but I am not one of them. Sent mine back today under my 30-day worry-free, and will return to a BB Bold 9650 when they reset my new every 2. I used to have a Tour, and as much as I love android, the BB will do what I need in a normal day (e-mail, text, and phone calls), and do it well. Maybe another try when Gingerbread comes out. Android needs a little more fine tuning, IMHO.

Just a thought but has anyone considered the delay in 2.2 is a marketing strategy? The Droid 2 may have already came out with 2.2 because its a 2nd generation and needed to advance itself as much as possible to make it a worth while purchase compared to the original Droid. The Droid X on the other hand is selling like hotcakes and is still on back order at verizonwireless.com. Is it possible they are delaying the 2.2 for a second wave of new buyers when the Droid X sales start to diminish? Like i said, just a thought.

Neo_hacks2000

I remember the day before the droid X bit the stores going into big reds shop. I talked with a sales rep. I was trying to decide between the x and the one. Well i went with the x under the assumption that we would get the 2.2 updare fairly quick and with it flash. Almost makes me regret my decision. I want to watch hulu on the go, i want my cameras onscreen shutter button, i want to look at blizzards almost completly flash website on my phone. Sigh. At least the ffxiv open beta started.

Golfaddic67

I just received an email explaining how to update. Just no update sent to phone

Jeff

No Froyo for you Droid X owners say the Froyo Nazis at Motorola and Verizon. I've had my Droid X since late August in the 734 Area Code and I've seen no signs of the Froyo update push on my phone 🙁

hybrid

After using my D1 w/ 2.2 and my DX w/ 2.1, I reactivated my D1 and moth-balled my DX until 2.2 lands on it. I think 2.2 is that much better – for me at least.

IMHO Moto's & Big Red's silence makes them appear bumbling & incompetent – but that doesn't matter to them unless it affects sales – which if this keeps up – it very well might.

Sowinc

rule the air. yup yup .. too bad its all hot air. i really see a class action suit in the making. i would join it in a heart beat… broken promises and bull to get the phones out there,and they put the next model out with all the update. shame shame

Used to be a Fan!

HMM… What to say, what to say. For the big guys at MOTO and VERIZON, go F*CK YOURSELVES… Assholes

burpootus

I waited in line on launch day for mine. Very disappointed that they've took this long to update. Not just for Froyo, but for bug fixes as well. Thought I was buying top of the line, X is not top of the line, D2 is. Moto will be the last company I will consider next time.

Webby

I'm glad I returned my DX (due to the weak speaker) and bought a virtually new DInc on ebay, which got a 2.2 OTA update within 30 minutes of activation.

absurdd

Wtf??? Now im just mad about it!

Ufish2

root…move to xbin…run leaked update…then search out instructions to get flyX up and running…forget moto verizon..:) enjoy the best droid out there::):):):):):):):):)

Djashadan

I recently emailed big red themselves and got a surprising email back stating that “the 2.2 froyo update is not currently available for the DX” now correct me if im wrong, but isn't that the exact opposite from the promise of a” late summer” launch? I mean i easnt given anything but” not available” Thoughts? (Sent from my 2.1 dx)

Scruz39780

The fact that droid 2 was launched with the update already installed doesn't bother me. I knew about this phone and its specifics way before the release of the DX. What bothers me and really gets me seeing red is the fact that other phones like the original droid and the incredible have already received it. Older phones like that can get it but not the X, wth!

The350zWolf

Original droid owners -at least rooted ones- didn't care about the OTA update, we've been running froyo since it was ported from the Nexus one update

Avanderlinde

It's hard to pin point the exact cause as to why it has taken so long to release this update. I just hope in the end most of the major bugs at least get squashed and things run smoother and better with the JIT engine built into Froyo. The only reason why i get so excited and i am sure most of you will agree is due to flash… I want to surf the web like I do at home on my PC. This itself is the single most important aspect of this update at least for me..

Joaquin

same here i upgraded from a storm 2 and within the first day i could never go back to blackberry how fast the phone is how many features it has and the fact that you can run emulators smoothy on it blows blackberry completely out of the water

Dshudson

You know what, it is such a slap in the face for users of android devices, I was such a big advocate for switching to any device from a blackberry pearl user for 4 years (because the phone worked so well) then I get a taste of android from and from Eris of all phones.. I was hooked.. just like the days when I had the first ever color screen phone, the Nextel i730.. or something like that, i even went to Bloomingdales 30 miles from me to get the limited edition clear white one.. So now almost 8 years later the technology that, may I add makes me my self-taught salary of almost 6 figures has betray me.. You couldn't be more correct about the phone falling behind.. it is almost embarrassing, and that’s not even the worst of this, I paid full price because (like 660) because I was tricked into buying the worst device in the world, the Blackburry Storm, 2 weeks before the so-called storm 2 came out.. What a joke, I returned that after 1 week. So why did I even buy the strom.. well I wasn't on the forums like I am now.. Verizon tricked me.. like they just did with the Droid X.

Thanks Verizon, Guys and Girls.. for reading my rant.

annoyed

Got mine on july 15th. Major factor in decision over an htc phone was the apparent slowness of htc to push updates. This has been very frustrating. I think motorola owes droid x owners a tangible apology for this debacle. As noted in the story, we were told the froyo update would be within a few weeks of the initial launch.if the leak version works reasonably well, there send little excuse for the delay

Starting to wish I had waited on the Galaxy S phone, even though I hated my last Samsung with a passion. At least they don't lock their stuff down.

Any company that locks down the software better have the dang software out in time.

The350zWolf

If I could only do that (transformation) to my girlfriend! ;^)

-I hope that she doesn't read DL, otherwise I'm dead 8^P

Eric

You want me to vent after a couple of happy hour pints and keep it clean. Good f*ck*ng luck! LOL!!!

TOM CELIC

Pathetic! Crooks lied to us to get in our pants! Now we are pregnant and the just left us with and ugly baby!

Ufish2

droidX..rooted..leaked 2.2..running FLYX..as good as it gets for now but everyone needs to remember the D1 didnt get all its support till almost end of life,so maybe untill Moto gives us a RIP notice..this is how it is,I'm quite happy with mine and will not do verzions update,just wait and get my support from the Droid geeks… :):):)

I just upgraded from a Storm 1 a week ago. Froyo or no Froyo, this phone blows everything Blackberry has out of the water. Not having to do daily battery pulls alone is worth it.

Dannyjedi

Good find… If I had a dollar for everytime I have heard that…

Bah..

GINGERBREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

RavenWulf

y'all are over reacting. the DX came out a month and a half after the TMO Slide and we were told the same thing, FroYo a few weeks after drop, that was back on June 2nd… still no FroYo, or even better back in Nov. when the Samsux Behold 2 was unveiled they (TMO/Samsux) advertised it would get 2.1 as soon as Google released it… toward the end of May they tell us we will get upgraded to 1.6 by end of summer and that they (Samsux) are dropping support and a lot of people's BH2's bricked installing the OTA update from Cupcake to Donut.

so in short it's not just Moto/VZ screwing y'all all the carriers and manufacturers are doing it

JoannaJadore

amen!

vinnyjames

I check for updates a few times a day and I certainly have not heard of anyone getting a froyo update on their DX

riviman40

this will be the last phone I purchase from Verizon and Motorola. When the bill is due …I pay it on time. So if they sell me a phone that is supposed to be cutting edge with the latest software that`s what i want ….ON TIME!!!!

PenzMan

Hey, I am less concerned about getting 2.2, than I am about getting my replacement Droid X. After waiting on the backorder, I finally get my droid x, to find it has that bug/defect that puts the colored specs in the pictures and videos, and a few dead pixels on the screen. Two pretty major problems. So, I am waiting for my replacement, on backorder….. I am very tempted to walk into my local verizon wireless and swap it out for a Droid 2. I love this 4.3″ screen though!

virtual tour

I just ordered my Droid X and the rep told me when it ships out it will have 2.2 installed but I have to wait for roughly 10 days to get it from Verizon.

Russr1123

Motorola needs to get their heads out of their asses and turn out a build that will pass Verizon's test. If it is failing Verizon's tests, then it won't get pushed to folks. I really don't get how the same software essentially on the Droid2 is out and we're still sitting with the 2.1 stuff. Shame on Motorola. Dumbasses.

R-Rated

I notice that Motorola's site is getting buggy this evening. Could the Revolucion be beginning?

I was just about to buy one, (litteraly a click away) and I got this crazy idea that I should see what people are saying about this phone. And now I'm not sure if I should. Currently I'm have a BlackBerry Storm (original) and really wanted to upgrade but not so sure it's an upgrade anymore.

Towelie420

Has anyone been able to put a different micro sd card into the droid x besides the one it comes with. I tried putting my 16 gig sandisk in and it just sticks on the moto logo. Also, has anyone had any luck playing movies on their tv using the hdmi output? People always make fun of me for wanting to do this, but i can't be the only one who finds this ability to play movies on hdmi cool, or am i? Lol. Sorry this is a little off topic. Ps: the fact that this phone didn't launch with 2.2 and the fact that the hdmi is locked down is complete bull shart .

some guy

The cake is a lie.

Serendil

Personally 2.1 wasn't that bad, but my DX runs better with the leaked 2.2. I don't really care what VZW/Moto do cause the community has me covered. If VZW/Moto don't want me to break the rules then they should get it out first or at least soon after. Even if you don't want to install the leaked Froyo I don't see the 2.2 upgrade coming late as being a deal breaker. The phone is still awesome with 2.1.

R-Rated

If you go Sprint. Go EVO. Two of my fellow Psuedo-techies at work have them. Seems they running just fine and got 2.2 right after Android announced it.

The350zWolf

:^) yeah to get out of it you have to pay alimony

Dannyjedi

I was FEVERISH about getting 2.2 on my X when I got it out the box… I wasn't very impressed with 2.1…

Didn't feel much 'snappier' then my D1.

I am running the first leak on my X. and I am somewhat happy with it.

Unless I am playing with it next to someone with an Iclone4, they seem much faster to me.. maybe the grass is always greener…

Anywho.. I have given up caring about the 'froyo' on my DX.

WHO CARES anymore at this point?

Now I am going to spend my time obsessing about GINGERBREAD!

Resolution update anyone?

impulse630

I've been following Motorola's Support Forum about the problems with Corporate Sync/Exchange. When asked about Froyo yesterday, Matt, the forum moderator, posted saying that they're still standing behind their “late summer” statement. When a forum member asked if this meant the update would be coming next week, Matt seemed to imply that it would be released next week.

At this point, it does not matter what excuse Motorola throws out. They may as well say their dog ate the update.

R-Rated

We, the consumers can make it a Playboy model. She just needs a little more X-ercise and she will work better than EVO.

Counting Motorola is not an option after 9/22. I am going Rogue and will be glad to since it seems that Johny Tech on the internet know as much or more than “Matt” the Motorola Mouthpiece.

Tbone

is that because it's always on vibrate???

brooklyngal

Just install the leaked version. It runs well, I personally had no problems with it. Rooted deodexed running nex theme. I don't want the official update.

R-Rated

I agree with the going to the first leak is easy. The thing I disliked about the first leak was the stock looking white Swype keyboard and the white background to calendar. White uses more power than black.

Anyone know how to get the Swype keyboard back to black? I tried uninstalling that application but it does not let me.

11knives

So over 2.2… Who really cares at this point. Verizon is coming out with devices so damn fast these days that you have to just enjoy what you have and not buy into the technological game that all the carriers are playing. I can do pretty much anything I need from my device, I'm genuinely happy!

JoannaJadore

LOL it really is!!! Its a love hate relationship that I cant get out of for the next 2 years unless i pay them. BAH! I still heart my DX more than my boyfriend though teehee ;D

Ronanderson177

Just a guess but I think they are trying to make it more difficult to root your phone. Why does vzw have to put anything in the build? Oh that's right, big business = big greed.

R-Rated

I am agree with DL. This “Matt” fellow at Motorola as Forums Manager has lost his professionalism more than once. The fact that the Cliq crowd has called Motorola out applies to the X'ers as well. Motorola missed a deadline. “Matt” even admitted he began the Cliq thread that way. So 3 months and 400 pages later what is there to show for it? I will tell you what – “Matt” employing the same charade of “I'm only one man””I'm doing all I can””I haven't seen anything to suggest a delay on rolling out.”

Come on folks at Motorola. You all were quick to advertise the X as “No jacket required” when Antennagate wass underway but cannot manager to find a way to keep the X and Cliq consumers informed with anything more than vague predictions from a murky forum. Grade for PR handling on the 2.2 rollout D-. Grade for the Cliq fiasco F-

Then there was the live streaming that took place nearly 20 minutes late on 9/16. Not only was it late but the 3 Motorolas failed in front of us all. Then the third speaker shows all how great Flash runs ON A HTC DINC? Who thought that was a good idea? Was there no practice runs to make sure everything worked?

Information handed out B, presentation D-.

At this rate HTC has a good chance of overtaking Motorola. HTC coding is available from Android developer's site AND HTC is proactive in addressing any leaked versions in a positive and accepting manner vs. lawsuits for copyright infringment on something the EULA allows to be updated. Motodev has potential, but if the lack of detailed accounts of who/what/when and lack skill that was demonstrated at the presentation, I am not going to look to it be worthwhile time invest developing applications.

X is a great machine, 2.1 is outdated, Motorola needs to rethink this “Matt” character and win over all the disgruntled X owners or when HTC doubles their processor speed, folks will be jumping ship.

Heck, HTC will even allow you to trade your old phones in towards offsetting the cost of buying a new one out of contract.

I think this just shows what I've felt for awhile. Buying an Android phone without the latest version of the software already preinstalled is a recipe for disappointment and rage. These handset makers are not used to supporting or caring about a phone after releasing it, and they are reluctant to do it without a way to monetize the entire experience ala Apple. If you get a phone with a current version of Android, highest possible specs, unlocked bootloader, and good dev community, you can only be pleasantly surprised if it is supported after release

Also, locked bootloader=fail but that has become less of an issue seeing as how custom ROMS are possible without it. Don't know if something as deep and full of a ROM as Cyanogen or Sapphire can be installed though, but if it can, then the bootloader is not a problem.

Paul704

Don't worry…it's going to be just like the DINC was…nothing for weeks, and it sucked waiting but some morning soon you will all wakeup to an update on your phone and you will get 2.2

Verizon just likes to take their time…hang tough…you'll get it !!!

TOM CELIC

Pathetic! Crooks lied to us to get in our pants! Now we are pregnant and the just left us with and ugly baby!

droidX..rooted..leaked 2.2..running FLYX..as good as it gets for now but everyone needs to remember the D1 didnt get all its support till almost end of life,so maybe untill Moto gives us a RIP notice..this is how it is,I'm quite happy with mine and will not do verzions update,just wait and get my support from the Droid geeks… :):):)

The350zWolf

Well said Ufish2, real men root their droids!

Dannyjedi

Good find… If I had a dollar for everytime I have heard that…

Bah..

GINGERBREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

RavenWulf

y'all are over reacting. the DX came out a month and a half after the TMO Slide and we were told the same thing, FroYo a few weeks after drop, that was back on June 2nd… still no FroYo, or even better back in Nov. when the Samsux Behold 2 was unveiled they (TMO/Samsux) advertised it would get 2.1 as soon as Google released it… toward the end of May they tell us we will get upgraded to 1.6 by end of summer and that they (Samsux) are dropping support and a lot of people's BH2's bricked installing the OTA update from Cupcake to Donut.

so in short it's not just Moto/VZ screwing y'all all the carriers and manufacturers are doing it

JoannaJadore

amen!

vinnyjames

I check for updates a few times a day and I certainly have not heard of anyone getting a froyo update on their DX

riviman40

this will be the last phone I purchase from Verizon and Motorola. When the bill is due …I pay it on time. So if they sell me a phone that is supposed to be cutting edge with the latest software that`s what i want ….ON TIME!!!!

PenzMan

Hey, I am less concerned about getting 2.2, than I am about getting my replacement Droid X. After waiting on the backorder, I finally get my droid x, to find it has that bug/defect that puts the colored specs in the pictures and videos, and a few dead pixels on the screen. Two pretty major problems. So, I am waiting for my replacement, on backorder….. I am very tempted to walk into my local verizon wireless and swap it out for a Droid 2. I love this 4.3″ screen though!

virtual tour

I just ordered my Droid X and the rep told me when it ships out it will have 2.2 installed but I have to wait for roughly 10 days to get it from Verizon.

Russr1123

Motorola needs to get their heads out of their asses and turn out a build that will pass Verizon's test. If it is failing Verizon's tests, then it won't get pushed to folks. I really don't get how the same software essentially on the Droid2 is out and we're still sitting with the 2.1 stuff. Shame on Motorola. Dumbasses.

R-Rated

I notice that Motorola's site is getting buggy this evening. Could the Revolucion be beginning?

I was just about to buy one, (litteraly a click away) and I got this crazy idea that I should see what people are saying about this phone. And now I'm not sure if I should. Currently I'm have a BlackBerry Storm (original) and really wanted to upgrade but not so sure it's an upgrade anymore.

I just upgraded from a Storm 1 a week ago. Froyo or no Froyo, this phone blows everything Blackberry has out of the water. Not having to do daily battery pulls alone are worth it.

Towelie420

Has anyone been able to put a different micro sd card into the droid x besides the one it comes with. I tried putting my 16 gig sandisk in and it just sticks on the moto logo. Also, has anyone had any luck playing movies on their tv using the hdmi output? People always make fun of me for wanting to do this, but i can't be the only one who finds this ability to play movies on hdmi cool, or am i? Lol. Sorry this is a little off topic. Ps: the fact that this phone didn't launch with 2.2 and the fact that the hdmi is locked down is complete bull shart .

some guy

The cake is a lie.

Serendil

Personally 2.1 wasn't that bad, but my DX runs better with the leaked 2.2. I don't really care what VZW/Moto do cause the community has me covered. If VZW/Moto don't want me to break the rules then they should get it out first or at least soon after. Even if you don't want to install the leaked Froyo I don't see the 2.2 upgrade coming late as being a deal breaker. The phone is still awesome with 2.1.

R-Rated

If you go Sprint. Go EVO. Two of my fellow Psuedo-techies at work have them. Seems they running just fine and got 2.2 right after Android announced it.

Dannyjedi

I was FEVERISH about getting 2.2 on my X when I got it out the box… I wasn't very impressed with 2.1…

Didn't feel much 'snappier' then my D1.

I am running the first leak on my X. and I am somewhat happy with it.

Unless I am playing with it next to someone with an Iclone4, they seem much faster to me.. maybe the grass is always greener…

Anywho.. I have given up caring about the 'froyo' on my DX.

WHO CARES anymore at this point?

Now I am going to spend my time obsessing about GINGERBREAD!

Resolution update anyone?

impulse630

I've been following Motorola's Support Forum about the problems with Corporate Sync/Exchange. When asked about Froyo yesterday, Matt, the forum moderator, posted saying that they're still standing behind their “late summer” statement. When a forum member asked if this meant the update would be coming next week, Matt seemed to imply that it would be released next week.

Let's all hope is this weekend or next week. This waiting is really crazy!!!!

R-Rated

At this point, it does not matter what excuse Motorola throws out. They may as well say their dog ate the update.

R-Rated

We, the consumers can make it a Playboy model. She just needs a little more X-ercise and she will work better than EVO.

Counting Motorola is not an option after 9/22. I am going Rogue and will be glad to since it seems that Johny Tech on the internet know as much or more than “Matt” the Motorola Mouthpiece.

The350zWolf

If I could only do that (transformation) to my girlfriend! ;^)

-I hope that she doesn't read DL, otherwise I'm dead 8^P

brooklyngal

Just install the leaked version. It runs well, I personally had no problems with it. Rooted deodexed running nex theme. I don't want the official update.

R-Rated

I agree with the going to the first leak is easy. The thing I disliked about the first leak was the stock looking white Swype keyboard and the white background to calendar. White uses more power than black.

Anyone know how to get the Swype keyboard back to black? I tried uninstalling that application but it does not let me.

11knives

So over 2.2… Who really cares at this point. Verizon is coming out with devices so damn fast these days that you have to just enjoy what you have and not buy into the technological game that all the carriers are playing. I can do pretty much anything I need from my device, I'm genuinely happy!

JoannaJadore

LOL it really is!!! Its a love hate relationship that I cant get out of for the next 2 years unless i pay them. BAH! I still heart my DX more than my boyfriend though teehee ;D

JoannaJadore

LOL it really is!!! Its a love hate relationship that I cant get out of for the next 2 years unless i pay them. BAH! I still heart my DX more than my boyfriend though teehee ;D

The350zWolf

:^) yeah to get out of it you have to pay alimony

Ronanderson177

Just a guess but I think they are trying to make it more difficult to root your phone. Why does vzw have to put anything in the build? Oh that's right, big business = big greed.

R-Rated

I am agree with DL. This “Matt” fellow at Motorola as Forums Manager has lost his professionalism more than once. The fact that the Cliq crowd has called Motorola out applies to the X'ers as well. Motorola missed a deadline. “Matt” even admitted he began the Cliq thread that way. So 3 months and 400 pages later what is there to show for it? I will tell you what – “Matt” employing the same charade of “I'm only one man””I'm doing all I can””I haven't seen anything to suggest a delay on rolling out.”

Come on folks at Motorola. You all were quick to advertise the X as “No jacket required” when Antennagate wass underway but cannot manager to find a way to keep the X and Cliq consumers informed with anything more than vague predictions from a murky forum. Grade for PR handling on the 2.2 rollout D-. Grade for the Cliq fiasco F-

Then there was the live streaming that took place nearly 20 minutes late on 9/16. Not only was it late but the 3 Motorolas failed in front of us all. Then the third speaker shows all how great Flash runs ON A HTC DINC? Who thought that was a good idea? Was there no practice runs to make sure everything worked?

Information handed out B, presentation D-.

At this rate HTC has a good chance of overtaking Motorola. HTC coding is available from Android developer's site AND HTC is proactive in addressing any leaked versions in a positive and accepting manner vs. lawsuits for copyright infringment on something the EULA allows to be updated. Motodev has potential, but if the lack of detailed accounts of who/what/when and lack skill that was demonstrated at the presentation, I am not going to look to it be worthwhile time invest developing applications.

X is a great machine, 2.1 is outdated, Motorola needs to rethink this “Matt” character and win over all the disgruntled X owners or when HTC doubles their processor speed, folks will be jumping ship.

Heck, HTC will even allow you to trade your old phones in towards offsetting the cost of buying a new one out of contract.

I just wish the Evo was as available as the Dinc.

Hello Moto?

Anonymous

HTC does that? So id be able to trade my dinc in plus cash for a newer device? I had no clue they did that that’s great.

HTC is stepping it up though even in build quality the new desires are made out of aluminum and the next gen processors are right up there with the galaxy s devices in terms of speed.

Xplhavoc

Yeah its to be the best phone out>>>?
Right!.
My Blackberry was 10xs better.

Here is my list of bad things so far.

CONS;
#1 I could not transfer over all my contacts from Blackberry had to go to Verizon.
#2 Times out
#3 Freezes
#4 Speaker Volume
#5 Business email can send out
#6 Some times cant even send out emails
#7 Slow
#8 In a call reboots
#9 Camera sux
#10 Swype is a joke
#11 Getting emails is not instant
#12 Touch screen is a little off on the point of touch
#13 No support like IPHONE PERIOD
#14 While talking people say they hear static
#15 Said to be the top phone, NOT anymore!
#16 Cant toggle back from navigation to music without starting all over
#17 Many more but getting a headache thinking about it

PROS
#1 Big screen

Guest

I lurk here so I’m throwing in my 2c…

CONS;
#1 I could not transfer over all my contacts (Gmail did it for me. Effortless).
#2 Times out (Mine does not)
#3 Freezes (Mine does not)
#4 Speaker Volume (agree, could be louder)
#5 Business email can send out (???)
#6 Some times cant even send out emails (never had this issue)
#7 Slow (Never had an issue)
#8 In a call reboots (Never for me)
#9 Camera sux (Your opinion)
#10 Swype is a joke (Too hard for you?)
#11 Getting emails is not instant ( Adjust your settings)
#12 Touch screen is a little off on the point of touch (Slightly)
#13 No support like IPHONE PERIOD (Buy one then!)
#14 While talking people say they hear static (I use mine for business, and I don’t get that)
#15 Said to be the top phone, NOT anymore! (Irrelevant – time marches on)
#16 Cant toggle back from navigation to music without starting all over (I haven’t tried)
#17 Many more but getting a headache thinking about it….

Sounds like you have a bad one. I have a few issues, but this is still IMHO the best phone out. I’m rooted, but ROM’s don’t interest me.

If you’re that unhappy, go back to your Blackberry. My 8330 is a distant memory…

CONS;
#1 I could not transfer over all my contacts from Blackberry had to go to Verizon. (Back up manager did all the work, and i gained contacts through facebook…hmmm
#2 Times out (never)
#3 Freezes (Never, maybe you don’t run advanced task killer? yea it sucks you have to download it, but you gain true multitasking, unlike I*hone)
#4 Speaker Volume (i use bluetooth, but i thought mine was fine?)
#5 Business email can send out (what?)
#6 Some times cant even send out emails (only time i’ve ever run into a problem is when i sent out +10 pics and gmail dosent let me do that in regular emails so it made sense)
#7 Slow (HAH, never ever, and i run 2.1, again maybe you need task killer)
#8 In a call reboots (never ever, maybe you should contact verizon, seriously)
#9 Camera sux (i took a video that beats the crap outta any i*hone video ever takin, if you want to see it i’ll upload to youtube at anytime, i’ll check back here if its a yes)
#10 Swype is a joke (best feature i found, super easy, never had a problem outside of a few mis-swypes during mental mispellings)
#11 Getting emails is not instant (yes it is…)
#12 Touch screen is a little off on the point of touch (Mines fine?)
#13 No support like IPHONE PERIOD (never needed to call, but yea if support is giving out free cases after denying thier was a problem with thier attena, you got me beat, oh and saying other phones have that problem to)
#14 While talking people say they hear static (not never 🙂 )
#15 Said to be the top phone, NOT anymore! (people see my phone and say “oh my god its huge, but isn’t that like the best phone out right now?” indeed it is, your move i*hone 4)
#16 Cant toggle back from navigation to music without starting all over (Step 1. activate navigation Step 2. slide down top bar 3. step 3, activate music, step 4, go back and forth with top bar…)
#17 Many more but getting a headache thinking about it (liar liar pants on fire 🙂 )

PROS
everything

Dshudson

lol.. Pros. Great watching porn on wifi

Cporter15

#16 I Response if you hold down on the home button for a few seconds you have the ability to toggle between the last few apps that you have been running. I love the fact I found this shortcut.

chrisb3

I agree with #4. Could be a bit louder. #10 The camera is fine, the software for it could use a couple tweaks. There’s plenty of 3rd party apps that remedy this in the meantime.

The rest? Most sound like either you have no idea how your phone works or you have a bad phone. The remedy for the former is, do your homework before changing your phone. The latter? Call VZW and get a replacement.

Or…just go back to BB and their underpowered, uninspired hardware. I left BB (Storm 1 owner) for the X. Aside from BBM, there is not 1 thing I miss about BB.

Honestly, I don’t know what phone you guys got(must have been broken to begin with), but my Droid X is incredible in just about every way.PROS: Everything works as described and offers more than I expected.CONS: What cons? No cons here.And yeah, Eddie4 is right, if you’re that bloody unhappy, go back to an outdated phone, like the BlackBerry Storm. *Laughs* My previous phone was the BlackBerry Storm and I can say that I will NEVER go back to a BlackBerry, PERIOD, after having used my Droid X for the last two months. Easily the best phone I have ever owned and by far the best Droid on the market right now.

But whatever floats your boat, I guess. 🙂

Guest

Don’t let the fanboys get to you. You’re basically right – coming to a Droid X from a Blackberry, it stunned me how many things Google didn’t even bother to *copy* from previous generations of smartphones. The copy/pasting is what drives me nuts. It also drives me nuts that the reviewers haven’t called Android out for having such crappy usability out of the box.

That said, after spending about 12 hours installing LauncherPro, switching icons, completely tweaking my UI, and adding a few key apps, the thing does work pretty decently at this point. Swype takes learning – it gets better after a few months – but I think it’s pretty much impossible to achieve the speed of a BB keyboard in terms of complex message composition (not just typing speed).

Anyway, I came on here and ranted about some of the stuff Android gets wrong and the same idiot fanboys whined away. They just won’t accept that their precious product might be less than anything else on the market in any way. It’s really kind of pitiful how much time people will spend justifying their buying decisions as opposed to, you know, living life. Such is modern consumer society…

I think this just shows what I've felt for awhile. Buying an Android phone without the latest version of the software already preinstalled is a recipe for disappointment and rage. These handset makers are not used to supporting or caring about a phone after releasing it, and they are reluctant to do it without a way to monetize the entire experience ala Apple. If you get a phone with a current version of Android, highest possible specs, unlocked bootloader, and good dev community, you can only be pleasantly surprised if it is supported after release

Also, locked bootloader=fail but that has become less of an issue seeing as how custom ROMS are possible without it. Don't know if something as deep and full of a ROM as Cyanogen or Sapphire can be installed though, but if it can, then the bootloader is not a problem.

Speakertx

Actually, it is. The entire ROM can be replaced, but the kernel must be one of the signed ones issued by Motorola. Theoretically, the kernel controls *ALL* access to the hardware and *ANYTHING* can be allowed or deny’ed via the kernel, should they choose to do so. They could re-architect the ip-stack in the kernel to dis-allow not approved tethering of any kind. They could make the kernel ignore all requests for root access.

People who are saying it is no big deal have *no* clue what they are talking about.

Paul704

Don't worry…it's going to be just like the DINC was…nothing for weeks, and it sucked waiting but some morning soon you will all wakeup to an update on your phone and you will get 2.2

I will say, most people that are very upset about all this are the “over informed.” Most general VZW customers had no idea when the update was coming and thus, they do not miss it. We all come in here (DL) to gain extra knowledge and “underground and leaked” info. Well, sometimes it doesn't pan out. As far as I know, VZW never promised me that I would be getting an update prior to Sep 17th, they didn't send me an email (like they do when the update is out), they didn't even shoot me a text. MOTO hasn't done it either. It does suck that we don't have it, but comparing this to crapple's announced updates and making statements like, “I should have never switched to this phone”, are simply frivolous. Regular VZW customers whom were digging for info were told, “late summer.” Well, that being a pretty broad time frame, you can't exactly call them names and say they are liars.

For you old schoolers, think back to the days when they found the FM receiver in the Droid 1. VZW and MOTO never announced it, nor did they advertise it. But when some geeks tore some phones apart and discovered it, people were demanding their FM radios like the Nexus 1. Just because they never enabled it doesn't make them liars, they never said they would. And they never did. This update was promised, but a date was never “officially” set, so we really can't hold them to more than they publically stated. It's coming soon.

Ok, now that I got that off my chest, on a personal note…. where's my friggin FROYO!!!

The350zWolf

You know Phillip, I completely agree with you on all counts, but both Moto and VZW not giving you full disclosure of all of the phone capabilities and curtailing the ability to use them is just wrong! Although a stretch of being a real analogy, it's kind of what big tobacco did when not disclosing that nicotine is bad for health. It should be that under full disclosure it is the choice of the consumer to decide to forgo any enhanced performance.

Incidentally, my original droid has FM radio!!!??? Where??? Man, talk about living in a cave :^(

Lakerzz

They have it on the Verizon and Motorola website for the DX…Will have Flash Player, hence 2.2 Froyo end of summer…

Jeff

I’m beginning to think they meant the end of summer in the Southern hemisphere 🙁

Badd99

Im so angry at how slow the texting is going now. WTF is my 2.2 update….this is really pissing me off.

DroydHead

I bet they're trying to plug up all of the security holes so that it will be harder to root.. Im sure the same exploit for the D2 2.2 will not work on the X's 2.2.

The350zWolf

This seems to be MOTO/VZW M.O.

JoannaJadore

I OFFICIALLY HATE VERIZON!!!

The350zWolf

It's kinda like being married, isn't it?

greyhulk

Does anyone know if you can get out of your contract over this? I know it's not a violation of terms of service, but it seems like it would be ammunition regardless. They launched this phone with the promise of it being at the forefront of Froyo and Flash and now it feels like an outdated device. I'm half tempted to switch to Sprint and get an Epic!

No. i know this for a fact. You can cheese your way into another device. When my wife got her Eris, way back when, the salesman promised Flash support and Navigation. they got navigation with 2.0, but no flash. VZW said it was not a violation of contract but would work it out. They agreed to let us upgrade out of contract at any time for the new subscriber price to any phone. I have since gotten her an Incredible without using my ace in the hole. I will pull it out when 4g comes along. It is a note in my file. I check up on it every 2 months or so and they always ask if I am ready to make a move. One day…. I will.

There has to be something more going on… the leaked 2.2 is nearly perfect. It even got my Active Sync for corporate email working (no having to use that overrated Touchdown junk). My X runs great, has never frozen, rarely force closes any apps. For them to still not have an official release is very very mysterious. Maybe they're trying to figure a way to lock down rooting the phone now that they've won the bootloader battle.

Chris Nimon

This is one of the things that has kept me away from the DX. At first this thing looked like a Playboy model but the beer goggles seem to be coming off. 🙁

The350zWolf

Did you wake up one morning with your DX on top of your arm???? :^)

Chris Nimon

I wish!! Married with 5 kids. Guess I used it all up 🙁

The350zWolf

LOL

byrdjr

Suddenly remembered why I'd decided to give the iPhone a try in the first place. Apple is slow, but they do what they say they're going to do. Wouldn't be so annoying if the upgrade wasn't such a big part of the sell. Also, pushing out froyo seemed like the perfect opp to make up for the lack of a front facing camera… or apologize for the performance of the on board camera (more mega-pixels doesn't mean better looking photos).

Jesse Ppk

Send a lil message to em both by returning your recently purchased DX dor a D2. They were highgly upset at the store that they had to do this for me without being able to charge a restocking fee. I was told when I originally picked up the phone (the day of the release of the DX) that it would be running Froyo within 2 weeks. Lies, lies, lies. Verizon does not even respect it's base enough to release a simple statement on the issue.

They're obviously adding more security measures on OTA 2.2 so that rooting and/or any method to remove bloatware is impossible. You can bet on it.

The350zWolf

Well, maybe we are looking at this from the wrong perspective, to me it seems that competition between the four major telecom companies is driving all this and VZW is just being fluid and agile about their decisions and customers are just stuck holding the proverbial bag. So perhaps is not as profitable to them to support obsolete hardware because the competition has something new and better. I guess those two year contract commitments are not such a bad idea anymore. I've been drooling over getting a droidx or a droid2 and just getting warm to the idea of forking out good money since I'm ineligible for upgrade, but guess what, it looks that waiting will actually pay off, especially with a rooted droid1 running froyo

OK, I'm going to say it. At least APPLE announces when they will update software and does it on time. No communication from VZW or Motorola on this is a joke. How can they possibly justify not rolling out the update, when the year-old D1 and D2's all have it? It must work at least 99% so why not launch and patch bugs later rather than P!$$ing off all of their customers? I dropped my iPhone 3GS for the DX, and I'm beginning to think I made a mistake.

Revdrcr

My story is similar, but different. I bought the original Droid back in March…voice quality was awful…and one of my great frustrations back then was waiting for the much anticipated 2.1 update. Remember that debacle? I got tired of the lousy call quality and delayed update, ditched it and got the iPhone 3GS…until July, when I sold that phone, and got the Droid X. Very happy with the DX, but this 2.2 update thing is starting to sound like deja vue all over again! I totally agree re: Apple and their updates. Ain't going back to Cupertino though…I am staying with Big Red.

Think of it this way: The Droid X already does everything the iOS4 update does for older phones, AND you’re not stuck to one update a year. That, and you can put on the unofficial update if you wish.

But they really need to get on it! The locked bootloader is the reason my next phone will not be Motorola, unless Samsung and HTC follow in Motorola’s footsteps

The350zWolf

Ditto

Anonymous

OK, I’m going to say it…. F- apple!

Uplates are the norm with Droids and I know it, but I’d take my original Droid with 2.0.1 over an iPhon’t every day of the week if I had to. Are the delays frustrating? Hell yes they are! However, any member of the Droid family is still an absolutely amazing device. 10 years ago this stuff was science fiction, and while I’ll still complain about VZ & Moto’s inability predict or deliver updates, I refuse to fund another turtleneck for Steve Jobs. Am I Droid Fanboy? Yes, and I make no apologies for it. YMMW, but that’s my two pints worth. 🙂

Ashotharu

i totally agree so people stop wining ok the update will come just sit tight and enjoy your englorious droid x because it is still an awsome phone and if you guys really are not liking the way android updates are then get a stupid i*hone and just move on with your life…… (btw if u do get an i*hone then ur retarded) just sit back and enjoy your Dx the way it is cuzz its still better than i*hone

Let’s not be ‘android fanboy’s’ here. Without Steve Jobs and Apple there would be no Android, no Droid X, nothing. We’d be rocking RAZR moto phones.

Its ok to be fans of android, but lets not forget that the iPhone had a huge impact on the mobile industry.

Jason

RIM and blackberry smart phones as well as palm, and winmo devices were around way before apple even dreamed of getting in the phone game. They did not revolutionize the smartphone category.

GODWELLZ

“I refuse to fund another turtleneck for Steve Jobs”

CLASSIC. lol.

Anonymous

Man at this rate Motorola, Samsung, Verizon and HTC are going to ruin androids vision. I Mean locked bootloaders? phone security tighter than a nuns panties? lying to the consumer multiple times about os updates? bloatware? Why are they trying to ruin our os.

Say what you want about Apple but none of that crap is going on over there. I think I liked it better when there was just the hero, g1 and droid.

I must agree. People dropped a nice amount of cash to get this phone with FLASH alleged to be enabled by late summer. Seeing the phone (DROID 1) I gave my nephew receive Flash before me, is insane. Verizon has this draconian attitude toward its customers and don’t even pretend to care or keep you informed. MOTOROLA is even worse. They are trying to become the new APPLE with their locks and bootstrap bullsh!t. Not to mention, their non-cooperative attitude toward developers. At least LIE to us, you bastards.

It’s all good, anyway. I have had the LEAKED 2.2 update since day one and I do not regret it.

AND ANYONE SAYING THAT “THERE IS NO REAL DIFFERENCE” IS DELUSIONAL AND NAIVE.

Supaj69

I just don't understand. If they're still trying to work out the “bugs” before rolling out the 2.2 Froyo Update, then just say! Don't leave us hanging. There's nothing wrong with saying “hey, we want to make sure you get the Update without any problems.” Now that's professional and respectful. Fortunately, I haven't had any issues on my DX, and I haven't had any replacements. I got mine on August 30th after a short wait. But I want the most of what my phone can do. So please let us know if it's not ready, it's not ready. If it's a go, then release it!

Jon

Festus440

I was good and decided to wait until the official updated. Probably a bad idea 🙁

Pale5151

waiting

pcguru30

you know i'm actually kinda glad right now that I can't upgrade until October unless they really drop the ball I should have my DX with 2.2 out the starting gate

This is really getting annoying and im becoming over my Droid X. Especially how it takes forever to load & send a text message now!

J0nnyman17

That has plagued my DX as well.

Yuusharo

The good news is the 2.2 leak added a “clear history” button in the contacts history page. The phone will still retain all messages as they're sent out or received even after deleting them from their respective places, but at least you can now clear them out by contact or everything at once. I really wish it would be more intelligent about it and delete messages in both places at once, but its something.

Also, I can finally clear Maps data from the Application's page in settings, which allows me to clear out old directions from the “layers” area, if anyone is interested.

Edjm711

The reason it's doing that is thai the droid x 2.1 doesn't delete messages. You probably have evey text to that person. If you delete the thread it will be speedy again. Froyo let's you set a message limit before it deletes

I had an idea for why Verizon and Motorola are waiting for the 2.2 upgrade! Remeber that post about droid x getting 4g? And this new website comes up? And verizon and motorola are making us wait? So wouldn't it be smart for verizon to put there top selling smartphone in 4g? I know it doesn't have a webcam but it has all the other specs!!! So what are your thoughts? :/

Rich

Not likely. A software update is not going to make the Droid X work with 4g. That will require a hardware change. Besides, even if that were the case, they would be better off doing an update now and another one later. The reason this is delayed is most likely the bugs in compatibility with Exchange.

Teagadinho

But it shouldn’t be. And the X has potential to be a 4g device. It doesn’t need new hardwear. That’s what OTA is for.

Anonymous

Guess what, it doesn’t have a 4g radio!!! No amount of software is going to fix the fact that the theres no little circuit box inside the damn phone that can pick up or broadcast and LTE signal.

i think it may have the hardware rich, i got a little post it in the mail a couple weeks ago from verizon stating that it was going 4g, and a list of recommend phones just so happen to be under that, and low and behold Droid x was their, i mean i understand if a silly worker said it in store, but this was in print….

Allen George

I am a programmer, and I’ve worked on several large scale enterprise applications as well as providing 3rd party interfacing to a program I don’t have the source for or any information about. I can tell you from the smaller applications that I’ve written on Droid, this issue shouldn’t take more than a few days if they actually put some effort into it. If it is a problem with settings getting wiped, simply move them to any area not touched by the OS update, and script a restore after the update. If its a problem with the settings needing to be moved to a new configuration after the update, that shouldn’t take that much code or brain power to figure out either.

I am mysteriously skeptical that maybe there is more to this than we think. Gotta hang with me here people, there have been poor little rumors about the 4g possibilities with this phone. While we all sit and wait for our Froyo, there are more signs that VZW is gearing up their LTE services soon. In true conspiracy fashion, did they maybe hold off on the update because they are going to launch a missile and add 4g to the X in the update?

Is this far fetched? yes. Is this impossible? no. Is it likely? no. But it is something fun to add some spin to. I think so.

Teagadinho

That's what i said!!!

Calculatorwatch

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty positive your second answer should also be a yes. Unless they found a 4g antenna hiding in there somewhere (which I think would have been bigger news), it is impossible for a software update to bring 4g capabilities.

I also believe they would have advertised it more if this were somehow the case.

The350zWolf

Well, not to beat on a dead horse but low and behold the power of a locked bootloader!

Actually I am beginning to dislike Motorola and there bull sh*t ways of holding development back. Verizon is as well to blame for not rolling out these updates! Locking the bootloader and all the C&D letters it just plain out ridiculous. How do you think the rest of your products got so much fame? YA its because of the droid 1 you idots! It was assumed by many that a phone with more power and custom roms would be awesome!!!

Either way I know this will be accomplished soon, (since now i am even working on it) I just wish they would get with the program! And get rid of blur or make it optional! ok I apologize ahead of time for the rant! Damn Kellex knows how to push those controversial topics! LOL

Mycahya

About time someone from the Droid X community showed up in this thread… I appreciate your 2 cents Deodexed. I for one am happy to have people like you and the The Black Hat Team, and all the rest of the community at large helping us beleaguered Droid x owners.

Javier

I cant even install 2.2 leaked because my phone stucks in the M logo everytime I try to. Doesnt matter from where I get the file or if I'm rooted or not.

1. It's not THAT big of an update. It's really a patch for 2.1 at best.2. If you really care and can't stand the wait, grab the leak and update your phone. If you need support or want the OTA when it comes out, flash the SBF and upgrade.

Is it fair that you have to do that? no. And yes, you are technically breaking the rules. But in the time you spent reading the above post, you could have flashed to the leaked 2.2 and been done with it.

The whole notion that the SBF and leak where “C&D'd out of existence” is simply not true. About 10 seconds of googling or searching twitter and you can easily have both in your hands – with instructions.

The350zWolf

I beg to differ on your first point. Froyo is no patch to Eclair.

kellex

Its so much more than a patch.

pcguru30

have you put 2.1 and 2.2 side by side?? theres a world of difference.. that's like calling Windows 7 just a patch for Windows Vista

Technically, it wasn’t. Win7 came out on MS’s normal time schedule ~ 3 years between releases… Vista took longer than normal, Win7 gets it back on track, and expect Win8 beta as early as next fall. (MS is a software company after all.) (And Vista really wasn’t all that bad… poor inital launch, yes, but I got it 3 months in and never had an issue… mostly FUD from an uneducated press who had never used anything but XP and were afraid of anything different…. or that you would actually have to hit [OK] before a process was allowed to run.

When you think about it, MS’s “patch” (for me $50) is much more reasonable than Adobe’s upgrade every 18 months for $100+ for minor updates.

In any case, that’s neither here nor there… my wife’s Droid (original) seems much more responsive with 2.2 update… but it make me wonder how long we’ll be waiting for 3.0 once it comes around.

uh… you do know what Motorola did to mydroidworld.com (source of leak) right? they ordered a C&D, AND DDoS’ed their website. They will do whatever it takes to lockdown the Droid X. They know its a runaway hit. Now they want to keep users from rooting in order to maintain the bloat and prevent users from getting free tethering. Its as simple as that.

and btw: 2.1 to 2.2 might be a decimal change to some, but there are glaring difference in terms of performance / ease of use.

I have a N1 and a Droid X. I’ve run both next to each other since before it was even released officially for the Nexus. And aside from Flash (which is pretty useless on the phone) and a few new buttons. What is the big difference?

My point here is not to defend moto or to say that 2.2 is bad. My point is that the phone was good enough for you to buy it with 2.1 on it. And with all the time people spend obsessing over a one decimal upgrade, you could just flash the leaked version and be done with it. I’ve been running the leak since it was released and have zero issues.

Regardless of what was done to the first site that leaked it, the SBF and leak file can be found just about anywhere.

Stop surfing articles about people speculating and complaining about the lack of updates. Instead, grow a pair – and just flash the leaked update.

Anonymous

This no patch my friend, this is a quite a leap over 2.1. If you actually google 2.2 enhancements you would see why that’s not a patch. The whole point is that, Motorola and Verizon were committed to late summer release on Froyo for the DX. Especially when the phone was released, they made a big deal how it will run flash and sort of give the iphone 4 a run for it’s money.

Why I don’t get is that how Motorola is able to have 2.2 on the D2 and not on DX? The biggest blockbuster phone of the summer is limited to what it can do because of software? You see this why people would get upset? If I were to advertise a car that can do 0-60 in 5 seconds, but that can only happen at sometime in the next month (no definitive date) to actually do that. In actuality it does 0-60 in 7 seconds because we’re still modifying the software for the ECU. Does that seem right? Does that seem right that you buy a performance vehicle to be limited? and give a vague ETA?

Sure there maybe a majority of people who buy the phone not knowing what 2.2 is, or what flash is…but should we restrict the people that do know, such as a community like this?

Miketalbott25

Now that i got that first out the way this is some bs. But since i came to big red back in oct of last year to get the of droid i've seen the same sh*t to many times. I have no faith in verizon of moto when it comes to updating the phones that make there companies go.

While I agree with your frustration, as a former D1, Incredible, Eris, and now current X owner. Does any of this really surprise you? This seems to be moving on par with everything else we have seen in the Android VZW world.

“Early September” has already passed and still no response or acknowledgement from VZW or Motorola…and at this point I wouldn't be surprised if the “End of Summer” comes upon us and we still have no update.

scribbles

Thus motorola f' d is again.

Miketalbott25

First!

jeesung

actually no, but keep working at it! 🙂

jeesung

Buck up. fall doesn't start until next week! 😉

Anonymous

Does anyone know if you can get out of a contract over this? They did sort of promise the update would be coming out shortly after the phone was released. While not delivering on that promise isn’t necessarily a violation of their terms of service, I wonder if it is a valid reason to get out of a contract.

I’m kind of irritated by all of this. I bought the DX expecting it to be at the forefront of Froyo and Flash and now I feel like I have an outdated device. I’m half-tempted to switch to Sprint and get an Epic.

Yuusharo

You’d be trading one 2.1 device to another, you know ;). At least Motorola and Verizon have given some sort of timeline for a froyo release. Samsung, I believe, just said it will be upgraded by the end of the year.

Anonymous

I went from a D1 running Froyo to a DX on 2.1. I don’t miss Froyo. The DX is such a great phone compared to the minor improvements in Froyo, it just doesn’t matter to me.

Some people are already whining about DX maybe not being upgradeable to Gingerbread. lol. Just enjoy the great phone you have people!