Open Thread: Knowing when not to say ‘illegal’

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c4pfan

Is it? Watch one of the GOP people start using it.

Oh, an update on the 7 yr old boy who got in trouble playing pretend by throwing a pretend granade in the playground by himself. His Mom is going to meet with the school officials and wants to have the rules changed. She’s fighting back and she will take him to another school, if they don’t change rules they put up on the website AFTER they suspended him.

Home schooling would be my choice, although patronizing the conservative schools is a good option as well.

I remember in my 5th grade class [ca. 1956], our teacher had us sing “God Bless America” every morning after the Pledge of Allegiance. My Dad was an consummate patriot; it’s so hard to comprehend the powers in college that corrupted my brother and sister.

OLLPOH

Being illegal is illegal for some not all.

Criminals are illegal for some not all.

Marxists rule is Marxism for all not some.

To Idolize An Individual Destroys The Idolizer.

Continental Convention Was For Natural Law or Obama’s Laws.

What Constitution If Not This Constitution?

MadAsHellJack

As long as the IDIOTS on the left control things America is SCREWED! I can envision in my mind God’s deeply furrowed brow at what is taking place in America. Yesterday Al (not so) Sharpton a Reverend (LOLOLOLOL) left out “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance. Now if you were God, wouldn’t it really PO you when a supposed Man of the Cloth forgot who you were????

Patriot077

Like who is going to listen to John Conyers?

Call ’em whatever you want John, just don’t call them citizens! At least you got that part right.

PatrickHenrysBody

Indeed. Why listen to Mr. Conyers? The same John Conyers who made these stupid, idiotic remarks:

This man is still a member of Congress, which makes perfect sense because he is the kind of idiotic leftist that the Democraps need to be in Congress.

Easy Ryan. If I can hold back my fingers, so can you! I know. Believe me I KNOW! I’m sick and tired of the continual smack down by these jackwagons. I’m trying not to comment much anymore on the amnesty/illegal/reform stories anymore.

I love how the Democrats pretty much gets a free pass in dissing every LEGAL immigrant that comes here.

According to one report Obama’s new Immigration plan would have made it easier for the 9-11 Hijackers to enter this country and become citizens. I wonder if that tidbit will make it’s way in this debate.

sjmom

Saw that myself.

Orangeone

All of the 9/11 terrorists would qualify under the DREAM Act too. So it’s not just under Barky’s plan.

Joengima

And yet with that fact known WE’RE considered racist for wanting to secure our boarder.

PatrickHenrysBody

No, it won’t.

clockwindingdown

Maybe we should adapt “criminal fence jumpers”, how about “subversive law breakers”, no come to think of it Illegal is a pretty accurate term.

Question is what should we call an elected official that is supporting illegal activities? I would suggest “inmate” would be a good start.

Orangeone

Accessory before and after the fact.

PatrickHenrysBody

How about enemy invaders? Foreign nationals that enter this country with no intention to assimilate and become citizens through legal channels are not “guests”. Some of them have maimed, mutilated, and murdered American citizens. That is the act of an enemy combatant/invader.

clockwindingdown

You make a very good case.

It would seem that militias from certain countries are invading our lands. We also know that some members of our government have gone to great lengths to arm some of these militia members.

Now, we are seeing a concerted effort to provide cover and assistance for these same militia members!

Yes, it would be reasonable to say there is a conspiracy be perpetrated on upon the American citizen!

😉

PatrickHenrysBody

🙂

sDee

def: Illegal Alien
noun
1. a foreigner who has entered or resides in a country unlawfully or without the country’s authorization.
2. a foreigner who enters the U.S. without an entry or immigrant visa, especially a person who crosses the border by avoiding inspection or who overstays the period of time allowed as a visitor, tourist, or businessperson. Compare resident alien.
Also called illegal immigrant.

def: Resident Alien
noun
1.an alien who has legally established residence in the U.S.
2.an alien who has legally entered the U.S. as an immigrant with the intention of becoming a citizen.

Best way to fool ignorant voters is to erase history and redefine centuries old meanings of words.

BlueGood

911 Tape of Sister of KILLER of Chris Kyle…Bless her for reporting her own brother as the murderer!

So, My Lefty Friends……
Talk Straight
“If George Bush committed ‘War Crimes” because he authorized waterboarding when he was in office….
what does Obama face for authorizing killing Americans without any legitimate proof of their being a terrorist?
And why are you all so strangely silent on the position suddenly?
We couldn’t shut you up five years ago!”

sDee

I was talking with my son about this last night (drones, assassination, rendition, violation of rights by this government etc). I asked why his friends/generation (the Obama sycophants) do not see it and why they are not outraged.

What he told me was interesting. He said that of course his friends see it. They are as mad, or madder than when they railed against Bush2. But he said, they place zero blame on Obama. No connection at all between the man and his policies! They see Obama as the great crusader who is fighting against insurmountable odds to stop all this.

Your sons description pretty much sums it up, “O” is not held accountable for his actions, he gets a pass.

I hope your sons friends realize they will suffer for their failure of holding “O” accountable. The policies they give him a pass on will come back to bite them and ruin their lives. This needs to be pointed out to them, they need to expand their thought process and learn to think…

This is where the GOP is failing, the connection is not being made with our youth. I don’t know if it is schooling or lack of parenting but it would seem there is a lack of connection between actions and consequence. Maybe more parents should be getting out “the belt of discipline”, it at least makes a direct connection between actions and consequences…

sDee

That is actually how we got talking about this. Our kids were raised understanding where socialism leads – not so for many of his peers who have no independent thought.

I told him that there is a very real possibility unless he and his friends join us in this fight, that his children will never even know freedom. I told him of the difference between me and my cousins in Europe. My father escaped the destruction of National Socialism while his brother stayed under a naive intellectualism that socialism could be redirected for good.

My cousins have no spark of life – no fire. They accept their secure job, their uniformly modest apartments, and no prospect of every owning a car, or land, or their own home. They cannot understand why I do not take vacation and worked 60 hours a week my whole life. They get all bubbly at their prescribed vacation time at one of a few prescribed locations affordable to them. Sad, yet they think they’ve such a high quality of life. They have never known freedom nor the work it takes to realize it.

clockwindingdown

sDee, that is exactly what I’ve seen. I laugh when I see articles about how happy people in Europe are. How can they be happy, they have nothing to compare their existence too, they have no concept of what freedom is, they except being property of the state and have been deprived the prospect to think or do otherwise. They live minimalist lives in empty tiny apartments, with nothing to look forward too.

Regarding your sons friends, and correct me if I’m wrong regarding “O”, what they are saying is the outcome/results doesn’t matter, it his intentions that count?

I suggest an exercises to see how that works for them in practice. Something like having them intending to pay their rent but don’t, let them see how well that goes over, or invite them over for dinner but don’t feed them… Intent is not a measure we should be holding our representatives too, results are… Unfortunately these young people are going to have a hard life if they continue down this path.

Reminds me of the line spoken so often by Soviet citizens, and detailed by folks who lived under the old Soviet regime: “If only Stalin knew!”

sjmom

Conyers is still around????? Would someone please get the hook because he’s been there way too long.

THE FACT is THEY ARE ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!! PC has gone too far because if someone does not have the proper paperwork or did not come through the system as they should have they are not legal and therefore illegal.

savageob1

good OLD john”read the bill” conyers,( i know teach, proper names,blah,blah,blah;i refuse to show even that amount of respect to him) of course this law-breaker will go to bat for others of his ilk

mikeinidaho

ILLEGAL, ILLEGAL, ILLEGAL! Stick it Conyers!
(And speakjing of “illegal” when will they come for you and yours, you dirtbag?)

anneinarkansas

Isn’t this the “Why read the bill?” person?
Isn’t his wife in jail?

PatrickHenrysBody

Yes, he is. His wife is “imprisoned”, but is due to be released in May of this year.

illegal…. doing something that is against the law….
they violated the law by sneaking accross the border… illegal…
just because they havent got caught for 20 or 30 or 50 years and had a dozen anchor babies doesnt make it anymore legal…
call them what you want and put a pretty bow on it…
the fact is they are illegally in the US…

Nukeman60

I liked what he started out with – “Our citizens are not illegals”. That’s right, Congressman. Our citizens are not illegals, but those that sneak over the border, violate our laws, usurp our privileges and steal the word citizen are indeed illegals.

You don’t want us to say that word? Then let’s find out what other words we cannot say or we should change.

Progressive – should be regressive.
Election – should be fraud.
Obama – should be dictator.
Conyers – should be idiot.

And illegals – should be deported.

Now, are we clear? Crystal clear? Good.

clockwindingdown

If more of us were Pit Bulls when interacting with these commies this BS would stop and these commies would be trying to hide under rocks again.

I’ll second your recommendations for the new language you have proposed!

tshtsh

I hope an undocumented armed squatter takes over your house. How long will it take you to call the police or take your “star boarder” to court?

Dukehoopsfan

This crackpot ranks right along side of Hank Johnson (Guam flipping over), Alcee Hastings, Maxine Waters, and Cholly Rangel as potential MENSA candidates from the CBC.

clockwindingdown

Brilliant idea for a youtube video showing our representatives and their amazing IQ’s in action…

12grace

Let’s think of some more appropriate names for the little darling illegals like….overly documented fence- jumpers, future democrats of tomorrow, the third world invaders, New World order fodder, obama’s friends and family members, Anti-American factions, The ugly UN-Americans, Tax burdens…

Anyone else have some names that can be posted so we don’t dare offend the illegals sensibilities?

tinlizzieowner

“Undocumented Democrats”? 😉

clockwindingdown

Uninvited guests.

Accidental inhabiter.

Marooned traveler.

Displaced citizen of a foreign country.

Geographically challenged.

Perspective citizen.

Free trial citizen.

Extended staying visitor.

Place holder for citizenship.

Orangeone

Had to share this funny from Twitter: #ReplaceSongTitleWithDrone Papa Was a Rolling Drone

Sober_Thinking

Conyers is proof that zombies exist! Sadly, he’s not eating enough brains to form coherent sentences…

Detroit was exactly the wasteland I was thinking about. Excuse me for being too general. ‘Obamaland, Illinois’ means Chicago. There are parts of both these states that are completely normal. I was born in New York but New York City is an alien planet.

Here’s when not to use the word “illegal”: when a crime is not perpetrated. It is a crime to enter the United States without going through LEGAL channels to become an accepted member of this country. When to use the word “undocumented”: when the immigrant fails to bring his or her required paperwork along to INS interviews AFTER he or she has already legally applied for and received a work visa, student visa, or green card.