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Warner Home Video has announced 1-disc DVD and 3-disc Blu-ray releases of Terminator Salvation for the 1st December. The 1-disc DVD will include the theatrical cut of the film, along with a Moto-Terminator featurette. The 3-disc Blu-ray will include theatrical and directors cuts of the film, along with featurettes ("Re-Forging the Future", "The Moto-Terminator"), a "Resist or Be Terminated” Video Archive, a Terminator Salvation Official Movie Prequel Digital Comic Issue #1, a WB Maximum Movie Mode, Focus Points, and a digital copy of the theatrical version. We'll bring you further details as we get them.

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Quote: In the highly anticipated new installment of The Terminator film franchise, set in post-apocalyptic 2018, Christian Bale stars as John Connor, the man fated to lead the human resistance against Skynet and its army of Terminators. But the future Connor was raised to believe in is altered in part by the appearance of Marcus Wright (Sam Worthington), a stranger whose last memory is of being on death row. Connor must decide whether Marcus has been sent from the future, or rescued from the past. As Skynet prepares its final onslaught, Connor and Marcus both embark on an odyssey that takes them into the heart of Skynets operations, where they uncover the terrible secret behind the possible annihilation of mankind.

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The 2-Disc Director's Cut DVD will be exclusive to Target (http://www.target.com/Terminator-Salvation-DVD-...). If only I had known, I would've held out on pre-ordering the single-disc. Well at least I only paid $9 from Target.com. Maybe I'll "lose" my receipt and return it for the $16 it'll be on release day, then use that towards the Director's Cut.

My only complaint with the movie was that the promotion campaign gave away the reveal of Marcus' character. Watching the movie most have him figured out prior to the reveal, but that is how it should be, not going in already knowing.

Again, the negativity for this film escapes me. So what if it was PG13, so what if McG directed it. Save for less F-bombs and bareass timetravel entries, the film was every bit as violent and action packed as the previous films. The effects were light years beyond anything done previous. Bryce Dallas in less screen time as "Kate" totally makes you forget Clair Dane's tepid performance of T3 and don't even get me started on Stahl's junky, "I don't want to be John Conner" performance; Bale in one growl encompased everything I had imagined Conner to be from the quick glimpse shown in T1.

Krishna Jaipersad wrote: The theatrical cut is 114mins. The director's cut is 117mins which coincides with the length stated on imdb.com . Blu-ray.com & as crazy as it sounds, amazon.com both state 135mins even though the coverart contradicts this fact! So, anyone with the inside edge on this development, please state which is correct!!!!

Krishna, my guess is that the situation of the producers of Terminator: Salvation suing each other prevented work on the real director's cut. So instead of the real director's cut (which is about 20 minutes longer), we're getting the pre-MPAA rating cut instead. HOPEFULLY the real director's cut (which they'll have to call the "Extended Director's Cut" I suppose) will come out later. But there's no assurances. Just the knowledge that in every interview, McCheese talked about a longer cut. Not merely 3 minutes longer.

Absolutely, positively do not understand the negative attitudes toward this film. By far totally superior to T3 in every aspect. T1 was bleak, dark, gritty; then came T2 which was saved from being too light by Cameron realizing during the edit the jokes needed to be toned back. Then we got the absolute joke-filled T3 which almost plays as a "wink" to the whole franchise. IMO, Salvation is what T3 should have been. Bale's Conner is ALOT closer to the quick glimpse we get of the character in T1 than anything Furlong or Stahl could muster. Saw this again the other day and it keeps on getting better with more viewings. Can't wait to get the BluRay.

The theatrical cut is 114mins. The director's cut is 117mins which coincides with the length stated on imdb.com . Blu-ray.com & as crazy as it sounds, amazon.com both state 135mins even though the coverart contradicts this fact! So, anyone with the inside edge on this development, please state which is correct!!!!

Chris Gould wrote:Quote: In the highly anticipated new installment of The Terminator film franchise I'd like to dispute that. Bloody two 'ls' as well. To be fair, "instalment" in acceptable spelt both ways.

This is something I've been wondering about for some time. The next gen of DVD up scaling/step-up players. The NSA and CIA have various image enhancement programs, this is pretty much a given. I'm positive they're always upgrading to the next version. Lets say program "X" is now on version 14, could version 5 be made available for civilian use? Even a water down version. The program could be put on a chip and inserted into DVD players. A near high definition picture, I can believe that could happen.

Monkey Boy wrote: The issue here is force. While some here are just happy viewing and nothing more; others like myself are collectors - creating a cinema library. Not disposable. They are FORCING 'us' to move into this format. A format not needed. You didn't need new equipment to enjoy DVDs, the improvements was obvious. The step up to Blu is something that requires new gear. Don't say that it doesn't, to get the most out of it you need too. No B.S. please.

When I say force, I do mean it. Unless you don't want to buy any new movies with extras, then don't buy Blu-Ray. You're being left behind. I see this format as nothing less than greed in physical form. Lets be honest here - Blu-Ray is the studios' answer to get us to buy our movies all over again.

We all had to some extent a library of VHS movies; mine was laser discs. I didn't make the jump to DVDs until 2003. I bought tons of releases as did many others. I have nearly replaced my old collection. I'm buying far less now, just stuff of interest; not upgrading movies. The studios are feeling this matter. People have gotten their library settled. Lots of the new stuff is c**p. 'Why would I buy that?' The same situation happened to the music industry.

Their solution was to have a new format to get us all to rebuy. They invested billions of dollars into it; HD/Blu-Ray. Now they hyping the hell out of it. See your movies like never before!!! Nifty bells and whistles, buy - buy - buy! How much do you want to bet that these same studios have investments in the same equipment needed to see their movies? *cough*Sony*cough* It's in their best interest to have a single format. A format they have far more control of.

Lets not confuse hype with the pretense that they care about us. It's all about profit, nothing more. Those FAILED corporate bailouts tells the story far better than I. What they should've done was make better movies. Make us want to buy good stories and tales. Not change that game so that we have to rebuy.

If you can't see that, you've become a zealot. Me? I don't care; have to the two formats - just make sure both have the same extras. What's so hard about that? For crying out loud, if they're still releasing full screen movies why can't we have DVDs and Blu-Rays??? Oh wait... greed.

I have to agree with this.

I will not buy BD discs or equipment sooner. Too expensive equipment and many BD discs just bare bones and very expensive. No tanx i''ll keep my standard dvd discs collection.

Monkey Boy wrote: The issue here is force. While some here are just happy viewing and nothing more; others like myself are collectors - creating a cinema library. Not disposable. They are FORCING 'us' to move into this format. A format not needed. You didn't need new equipment to enjoy DVDs, the improvements was obvious. The step up to Blu is something that requires new gear. Don't say that it doesn't, to get the most out of it you need too. No B.S. please.

When I say force, I do mean it. Unless you don't want to buy any new movies with extras, then don't buy Blu-Ray. You're being left behind. I see this format as nothing less than greed in physical form. Lets be honest here - Blu-Ray is the studios' answer to get us to buy our movies all over again.

We all had to some extent a library of VHS movies; mine was laser discs. I didn't make the jump to DVDs until 2003. I bought tons of releases as did many others. I have nearly replaced my old collection. I'm buying far less now, just stuff of interest; not upgrading movies. The studios are feeling this matter. People have gotten their library settled. Lots of the new stuff is c**p. 'Why would I buy that?' The same situation happened to the music industry.

Their solution was to have a new format to get us all to rebuy. They invested billions of dollars into it; HD/Blu-Ray. Now they hyping the hell out of it. See your movies like never before!!! Nifty bells and whistles, buy - buy - buy! How much do you want to bet that these same studios have investments in the same equipment needed to see their movies? *cough*Sony*cough* It's in their best interest to have a single format. A format they have far more control of.

Lets not confuse hype with the pretense that they care about us. It's all about profit, nothing more. Those FAILED corporate bailouts tells the story far better than I. What they should've done was make better movies. Make us want to buy good stories and tales. Not change that game so that we have to rebuy.

If you can't see that, you've become a zealot. Me? I don't care; have to the two formats - just make sure both have the same extras. What's so hard about that? For crying out loud, if they're still releasing full screen movies why can't we have DVDs and Blu-Rays??? Oh wait... greed.

well spoken sir, i agree 100% ...where will it stop,red-ray,hhddbvvdvd....a little chip implanted in your head that a person will just scan the movie directly into your brain....4,000,000 super omega progressive tv ....i dunno about you but i dont want to have to buy evil dead or halloween on another format ever again and if i wanted to upgrade all of my dvds to blue-ray it would cost me a bloody fortune as i own over 500 and it grows every week

Yeah. Someone terminate this and bring over "Battle of the Smithsonian" for christ f**king sake. WHERE THE F**KING HELL IS NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM?

Actually, if u go on Amazon, they have "some" info on Night @ the Museum. All I know is there's gonna be a single disk, and 2-disk, DVD & 3-disk (with the worthless digital copy) Blu-Ray. AT least Fox is still releasing 2-disk edition DVDs!

Matt Stilwell wrote: Krishna Jaipersad wrote: I had heard that they were going to release a Director's cut of the film, but reading the above, it looks as if it is exclusively on Blu ray!!! Are they serious?????????

Yes, they're serious. Most people are getting blu-ray now. People like you said the same thing about DVD when you were still into VHS. Actually, I was most disenchanted with video tape for all its flaws! When the CD first came out, I was extremely pleased with the sound quality & only wished that sometime in the future that movies could be offered with crystal sound & video! Boom!!! the DVD was created & I was quite satisfied. I am still quite satisfied as I have an upconverting dvd player so I can see it in near-hd quality. I will upgrade to Bluray in the near future, so please don't shoot me down due to the fact that the Director's Cut is being exclusively released on Bluray & not both formats!!! That's my problem!!!

King wrote: Stubby wrote: Please ban this nitwit from this site. He's been banned before earlier this year under a different name

Proof?

Your former ID was Frilsh banned about a year ago Your former registered name was Kelly. Now you go by KC Both from Canada Both with inane bizarro responses to ellicit attention Both respond back with the word "bland"

Chris: it's just a matter of time this fool gets the ol' heave-ho so do it sooner rather than later and we could get your lovely signature on this thread

OK, WB has gone completely sucky. I don't get how they could release movies like Watchmen, those animated DC comic movies, and Yes Man on 2-disks on 2-disk but not Terminator? Please tell me someone (like Target, or Wall-Mart) will have their own collector's edition. Also, why upgrade to Blu-Ray when something better will just come out soon?

Andy3105 wrote: dvdtakeaway wrote: J Linc wrote: The fact that they are not offering the director's cut for the DVD release is pretty much guaranteeing many to pirate the Blu-ray version... not cool at all. Not everyone can afford an HDTV and Blu-ray player.

If you cant afford an HDTV set up - thats your own fault. Go out and get a better paid job. Just because you cant afford something, it does not give you the right to just get a pirate version of the Blu-ray. I drive a c**ppy car, but my neighbour has a Porshe, does it mean I can just go steal/use it when I want because I can't afford my own??

Erm....

I don't think the poster was advocating the pirating of Blu Ray discs, he was merely saying that people who want to see the DC version but do not have Blu Ray will seek out a pirated copy on the internet, a very valid point if you ask me.

Now, I own a 46" Samsung LCD, PS3, Xbox Elite, Toshiba HD-E1 and an Oppo DV-980, which covers all bases but do I think that those less fortunate than myself shouldn't be able to enjoy the things I do? NO IT DOES NOT

I wholeheartedly support the release of multi platform games so people on Xboxes, PS3's, Wii's and even PS2's can still enjoy what I do and I believe that the same should hold true for film, in this case I believe Warner's to be cynically trying to maximise the sales of this movie at the same time as maximising sales for Blu Ray, the revenue streams generated by BD is probably the reason why they're doing it and from a business point of view I guess it makes fiscal sense however I do not support this action.

Bottom line from Warner's seems to be that if you want to see the film as intended then you have to have Blu Ray and that isn't right, at the end of the day the consumer should have the right to choose, of course the counter argument would be that true enthusiasts for this and other films would have already adopted Blu Ray and this is a sweetener for those users, who knows.

However, to condemn someone for posting a valid comment is pathetic, perhaps others out there might not be as fortunate as you and I?? or perhaps you just didn't read it right in the first place??.

This film did not suck!!!!!!!!! I dont know what more one could possibly ask for from a movie. It was action-packed!!!!!!!!!! People just dont know how to ENJOY a movie nowadays, they go in expecting Oscar-caliber everything, and act like idiots and hate every movie that comes out. Lighten up, people. I am so pissed off about the DVD news its not even funny. Im so freaking sick and tired of Blu-Ray getting all the extras and those of us who dont wanna pay 30 bucks for ONE movie, getting squat. Not everyone is going to ever be willing to upgrade, same with 3D every frickin movie seems like its coming out in 3D. Not to mention the fact that the darkers thriller films dont get as much business, whereas lame as hell kiddie movies like Monsters Vs. Aliens makes into the 300 millions or so. I HATE BLU-RAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They better upgrade the DVD for Terminator 4, not only did they wait forever to release information, but then they put practically nothing on the DVD. This is F****** ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry im just venting. So please dont rip me apart, im just expressing my feelings hoping theres someone who maybe agrees with me. LOL

J Linc wrote: I assume you are being sarcastic, King. Even I don't own an HDTV and/or Blu-ray player as of yet but I can readily admit to the superior video and audio quality of the latter format versus DVD and needless to say VHS.

We've got 3 HDTVs now in the house. I replaced my 32" CRT with a 42" two years ago. We replaced Mom's 27" CRT with a 32" last Christmas, and my Dad just replaced his 36" CRT with a 52". However we don't have Blu-ray yet. I've got a 1080p up-converting Oppo DVD player on my system. It's pretty good when viewed from a distance of about 10'.

Solid artwork, although I will not be buying. I'm already buying Drag me to hell and Orphan on Blu-ray. If, and if, I have enough money I'll buy Trick 'r treat. As of now, a rental will more than suffice. Nice to see the BD will include both cuts of the film, extras, and a digital copy of the theatrical. Yes!

Andy3105 wrote: Chris, can we get this King guy thrown off here, seems to me we have some people who are trying to have a serious discussion about some serious issues then you have this guy, it's like he's about 10 years old on a wind up mission, it's not winding me up so he's failed in that regard but god, it's just so damn irritating to read this rubbish and it's cheapening the forum.

Why they didn't choose to advertise that number is puzzling. Usually these ads try to manipulate every number and statistic possible in order for it to make the film seem more important.

And I wanna see the 2 hour 40 minute cut that McG originally prepared. Probably never will though...

45 minutes of extra footage ?!

Mantis wrote: I just did some searching about the runtime of the DC, i found a page with info, they're pretty reliable most of the times: http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Terminator_Salvat... there it says the DC runs about 135 minutes, 20 minutes longer than the theatrical version.

Chris, can we get this King guy thrown off here, seems to me we have some people who are trying to have a serious discussion about some serious issues then you have this guy, it's like he's about 10 years old on a wind up mission, it's not winding me up so he's failed in that regard but god, it's just so damn irritating to read this rubbish and it's cheapening the forum.

The issue here is force. While some here are just happy viewing and nothing more; others like myself are collectors - creating a cinema library. Not disposable. They are FORCING 'us' to move into this format. A format not needed. You didn't need new equipment to enjoy DVDs, the improvements was obvious. The step up to Blu is something that requires new gear. Don't say that it doesn't, to get the most out of it you need too. No B.S. please.

When I say force, I do mean it. Unless you don't want to buy any new movies with extras, then don't buy Blu-Ray. You're being left behind. I see this format as nothing less than greed in physical form. Lets be honest here - Blu-Ray is the studios' answer to get us to buy our movies all over again.

We all had to some extent a library of VHS movies; mine was laser discs. I didn't make the jump to DVDs until 2003. I bought tons of releases as did many others. I have nearly replaced my old collection. I'm buying far less now, just stuff of interest; not upgrading movies. The studios are feeling this matter. People have gotten their library settled. Lots of the new stuff is c**p. 'Why would I buy that?' The same situation happened to the music industry.

Their solution was to have a new format to get us all to rebuy. They invested billions of dollars into it; HD/Blu-Ray. Now they hyping the hell out of it. See your movies like never before!!! Nifty bells and whistles, buy - buy - buy! How much do you want to bet that these same studios have investments in the same equipment needed to see their movies? *cough*Sony*cough* It's in their best interest to have a single format. A format they have far more control of.

Lets not confuse hype with the pretense that they care about us. It's all about profit, nothing more. Those FAILED corporate bailouts tells the story far better than I. What they should've done was make better movies. Make us want to buy good stories and tales. Not change that game so that we have to rebuy.

If you can't see that, you've become a zealot. Me? I don't care; have to the two formats - just make sure both have the same extras. What's so hard about that? For crying out loud, if they're still releasing full screen movies why can't we have DVDs and Blu-Rays??? Oh wait... greed.

TAF wrote: Wow, this sucks, I was looking forward to the directors cut but Blu ray is a ripoff, guess everyone will be bootlegging.

why is it a ripoff? because you can't afford it? and who is this "everyone"? because if you can actually read which is clearly you can't you'll see people on this board that are planning to buy the blu-ray.

William Coffey wrote: After the c**p the WB's pulled on The Dark Knight, Watchmen, Orphan and now Terminator, I've decided they will not be getting any money out of me for a while.

I can agree with "Watchmen," but what are you talking about? Are you saying that "The Dark Knight" isn't a good film? I hope you don't think Harry Potter is c**p.

another hater of blu-ray just because they can't afford it

Are you kidding? I love Blu-Ray. I just happen to like the artwork for the 1-Disc Artwork a lot more. I get unlimited access to Blu-Ray on Netflix so I can possibly rent every movie I want on Blu-Ray. But yes, I know a lot of people who don't like Blu-Ray because they can't afford it. I'm not one of those ppl.

I'm still waiting for "Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian." And are they going to announce Harry Potter real son?

I hardly comment on here anymore, but man, only a bare bones single disc on dvd! Are you serious!!!!! WTF!?

I want to upgrade to blu, but I don't have that kind of cash, and wont any time soon. I'm beyond pissed right now, because I am one of the few who actually LOVED this movie! I would have bought it day one, but not now.

P.Bateman wrote: Pixarfan517 wrote: I like the 1-Disc artwork more but guess what...I ain't buying it.

Two more movies to bring over: Night at the Museum and Harry Potter.

William Coffey wrote: After the c**p the WB's pulled on The Dark Knight, Watchmen, Orphan and now Terminator, I've decided they will not be getting any money out of me for a while.

I can agree with "Watchmen," but what are you talking about? Are you saying that "The Dark Knight" isn't a good film? I hope you don't think Harry Potter is c**p.

another hater of blu-ray just because they can't afford it

Are you kidding? I love Blu-Ray. I just happen to like the artwork for the 1-Disc Artwork a lot more. I get unlimited access to Blu-Ray on Netflix so I can possibly rent every movie I want on Blu-Ray. But yes, I know a lot of people who don't like Blu-Ray because they can't afford it. I'm not one of those ppl.

I'm still waiting for "Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian." And are they going to announce Harry Potter real son?

Andy3105 wrote: dvdtakeaway wrote: J Linc wrote: The fact that they are not offering the director's cut for the DVD release is pretty much guaranteeing many to pirate the Blu-ray version... not cool at all. Not everyone can afford an HDTV and Blu-ray player.

If you cant afford an HDTV set up - thats your own fault. Go out and get a better paid job. Just because you cant afford something, it does not give you the right to just get a pirate version of the Blu-ray. I drive a c**ppy car, but my neighbour has a Porshe, does it mean I can just go steal/use it when I want because I can't afford my own??

Erm....

I don't think the poster was advocating the pirating of Blu Ray discs, he was merely saying that people who want to see the DC version but do not have Blu Ray will seek out a pirated copy on the internet, a very valid point if you ask me.

Now, I own a 46" Samsung LCD, PS3, Xbox Elite, Toshiba HD-E1 and an Oppo DV-980, which covers all bases but do I think that those less fortunate than myself shouldn't be able to enjoy the things I do? NO IT DOES NOT

I wholeheartedly support the release of multi platform games so people on Xboxes, PS3's, Wii's and even PS2's can still enjoy what I do and I believe that the same should hold true for film, in this case I believe Warner's to be cynically trying to maximise the sales of this movie at the same time as maximising sales for Blu Ray, the revenue streams generated by BD is probably the reason why they're doing it and from a business point of view I guess it makes fiscal sense however I do not support this action.

Bottom line from Warner's seems to be that if you want to see the film as intended then you have to have Blu Ray and that isn't right, at the end of the day the consumer should have the right to choose, of course the counter argument would be that true enthusiasts for this and other films would have already adopted Blu Ray and this is a sweetener for those users, who knows.

However, to condemn someone for posting a valid comment is pathetic, perhaps others out there might not be as fortunate as you and I?? or perhaps you just didn't read it right in the first place??.

man..where the hell do you live with prices that crazy? lol these days blu-rays tend to be 3-5 dollars more than the dvd around here. sometimes i've seen 10 but thats usually a case of a collector's edition that comes with a figurine or something but yeah....start shopping in a different city if there's that big a difference in your area.

Indiana, Maybe I was exaggerating a bit (the average difference is around $10 here), but still when the DVD is so much cheaper now, it's hard to justify spending so much extra cash on a movie seeing as I have many DVDs already.

Cinque wrote: I'm all in for any Moon Bloodgood nudity or toplessness, even if it's only for a few, fleeting precious seconds. Finally, my greatest wish ever since I first saw her on Daybreak is gonna come true!!

Someone needs a coldshower

I will be upset if there isn't a substantial increase in the running time, McG has said a lot was taken out. But I think he said him and Conrad Buff were going to decide what to add in. If its just Moon Bloodgood in the nip it says a lot about them

dvdtakeaway wrote: J Linc wrote: The fact that they are not offering the director's cut for the DVD release is pretty much guaranteeing many to pirate the Blu-ray version... not cool at all. Not everyone can afford an HDTV and Blu-ray player.

If you cant afford an HDTV set up - thats your own fault. Go out and get a better paid job. Just because you cant afford something, it does not give you the right to just get a pirate version of the Blu-ray. I drive a c**ppy car, but my neighbour has a Porshe, does it mean I can just go steal/use it when I want because I can't afford my own??

Erm....

I don't think the poster was advocating the pirating of Blu Ray discs, he was merely saying that people who want to see the DC version but do not have Blu Ray will seek out a pirated copy on the internet, a very valid point if you ask me.

Now, I own a 46" Samsung LCD, PS3, Xbox Elite, Toshiba HD-E1 and an Oppo DV-980, which covers all bases but do I think that those less fortunate than myself shouldn't be able to enjoy the things I do? NO IT DOES NOT

I wholeheartedly support the release of multi platform games so people on Xboxes, PS3's, Wii's and even PS2's can still enjoy what I do and I believe that the same should hold true for film, in this case I believe Warner's to be cynically trying to maximise the sales of this movie at the same time as maximising sales for Blu Ray, the revenue streams generated by BD is probably the reason why they're doing it and from a business point of view I guess it makes fiscal sense however I do not support this action.

Bottom line from Warner's seems to be that if you want to see the film as intended then you have to have Blu Ray and that isn't right, at the end of the day the consumer should have the right to choose, of course the counter argument would be that true enthusiasts for this and other films would have already adopted Blu Ray and this is a sweetener for those users, who knows.

However, to condemn someone for posting a valid comment is pathetic, perhaps others out there might not be as fortunate as you and I?? or perhaps you just didn't read it right in the first place??.

J Linc wrote: The fact that they are not offering the director's cut for the DVD release is pretty much guaranteeing many to pirate the Blu-ray version... not cool at all. Not everyone can afford an HDTV and Blu-ray player.

If you cant afford an HDTV set up - thats your own fault. Go out and get a better paid job. Just because you cant afford something, it does not give you the right to just get a pirate version of the Blu-ray. I drive a c**ppy car, but my neighbour has a Porshe, does it mean I can just go steal/use it when I want because I can't afford my own??

I thought the movie was average. In my opinion, too many summer blockbusters have too much action, like an over-abundance. I'm not looking for the next Godfather, but I did expect more from the characters. Shoot, there are even some Hollywood blockbusters that even have lots of story and action (examples Watchmen, District 9, Inglourious Basterds). The amount of action in this movie was inexcusable. Maybe I'll Netflix it, so I might enjoy it. But a purchase is out of the question.

As for everyone freaking about the 1-disc barebones DVD, this is why you need to upgrade to Blu-ray.

does anybody know how long the director's cut will be? i heard different things: some source says it's only a few seconds longer but i also heard that it's 30-40 minutes longer and even has an alternative ending. so where does the truth lie?

Only 3 minutes of extra content?? I would hardly call that a "Director's Cut" unless we see a hot sex scene w/ Moon Bloodgood and extra blood and violence, which I don't think 3 mins is enough time to cover.

The Maximum Movie mode w/ McG does sound cool though. I just got an HDTV and Blu Ray 2 weeks ago, so I think I may go for that one.

NickMichalak wrote: I can't afford to purchase a Blu Ray disc player, let alone start building a BD library, or purchase an HDTV for my own personal use. There's a few thousands dollars of debt standing between me and all that. So, if they're not releasing the director's cut on DVD, I won't be buying "Terminator: Salvation" at all. Why bother? It's like Watchmen - I buy the two-disc director's cut only to be greeted inside the package with an ad for the FIVE DISC Ultimate Edition set - WTF?! Might as well just have someone smack me in the face when I open it.

I did enjoy this film, and if there's a director's cut out there - I want it. But no Blu Ray in the foreseeable future for me. So, either they give me the director's cut on DVD, or they don't get my sale at all, period.

-NJM

So your thousands of dollars in debt, so that's why you can't upgrade. If that's the case, then that's a pretty valid reason. But, why you even be buying DVD's if your that much in debt?

I just got an HDTV and Blu Ray 2 weeks ago to replace a broken TV and you know how much I spent total? less than $500 for both. An HDTV and Blu Ray is more than affordable now.

I assume you are being sarcastic, King. Even I don't own an HDTV and/or Blu-ray player as of yet but I can readily admit to the superior video and audio quality of the latter format versus DVD and needless to say VHS.

I can't afford to purchase a Blu Ray disc player, let alone start building a BD library, or purchase an HDTV for my own personal use. There's a few thousands dollars of debt standing between me and all that. So, if they're not releasing the director's cut on DVD, I won't be buying "Terminator: Salvation" at all. Why bother? It's like Watchmen - I buy the two-disc director's cut only to be greeted inside the package with an ad for the FIVE DISC Ultimate Edition set - WTF?! Might as well just have someone smack me in the face when I open it.

I did enjoy this film, and if there's a director's cut out there - I want it. But no Blu Ray in the foreseeable future for me. So, either they give me the director's cut on DVD, or they don't get my sale at all, period.

I just did some searching about the runtime of the DC, i found a page with info, they're pretty reliable most of the times: http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Terminator_Salvat... there it says the DC runs about 135 minutes, 20 minutes longer than the theatrical version.

mc_serenity wrote: It will contain the much-ballyhooed scene where Moon Bloodgood takes her top off.

To be fair, that is a good reason. She was great on Journeyman; was delighted to see her in Terminator, even if it was only a bit part.

But I am still hoping this 3-minute longer note is based on early info, and that the real 20+ minute longer director's cut will be on it. If the longer cut is not on it, then it either means there will be a double dip in a few months, or, that the in-fighting among the three producers forced a stop to the creation of the real director's cut. (They're suing each other again, just like they did during production).

Even if there's a double dip in the works, I'm getting this version anyway. Yes it was that good.

Yeah if you're a complete idiot. Blu Ray sucks. DVD all the way baby. Hell, I'd take VHS over Blu Ray

Surely am the idiot? You're as obsolete as those formats are! Either (and obviously) you can't afford it (an HDTV set/player) or your a rather stuck up old hag that rather be amongst the minority when you decide to choose old technology over a much more enhanced one. That's just easily being stubborn and mostly ignorant. The world develops and moves to better and newer advances, time to take that change buddy!

Yeah if you're a complete idiot. Blu Ray sucks. DVD all the way baby. Hell, I'd take VHS over Blu Ray

Surely am the idiot? You're as obsolete as those formats are! Either (and obviously) you can't afford it (an HDTV set/player) or your a rather stuck up old hag that rather be amongst the minority when you decide to choose old technology over a much more enhanced one. That's just easily being stubborn and mostly ignorant. The world develops and moves to better and newer advances, time to take that change buddy!

“Although Terminator Salvation was initially intended to be the first part of a new Terminator trilogy, its performance at the domestic US box office led many to question whether a fifth Terminator film would happen.

Then, to everyone’s surprise, the film gunned it on the international circuit, almost doubling Star Trek’s foreign take to hit a reasonable box office haul of $341M worldwide. That led to speculation that Terminator 5 might be back on the agenda – and it seems it is, with director McG now confirming Terminator 5 is being worked on as we speak.”

J Linc wrote: The fact that they are not offering the director's cut for the DVD release is pretty much guaranteeing many to pirate the Blu-ray version... not cool at all. Not everyone can afford an HDTV and Blu-ray player.

HDTV is about the same price as the "tube" TVs when they were first introduced. you get get one for as low $400 american now for a 35 inch. So it's actually not that expensive. but yeah I can understand why people would get annoyed because the blu-ray has so many more features.

The only thing that pisses me off is people who bashes blu-ray just because they don't think it's worth paying the extra money, when I know at least half of the people that bashes blu-ray has never actually experienced blu-ray before and when I say Experience I mean watching a blu-ray movie on a HDTV, not watching it on a tube TV. If you actually experienced blu-ray on an HDTV you'll know it's actually worth the extra cash.

man..where the hell do you live with prices that crazy? lol these days blu-rays tend to be 3-5 dollars more than the dvd around here. sometimes i've seen 10 but thats usually a case of a collector's edition that comes with a figurine or something but yeah....start shopping in a different city if there's that big a difference in your area.

I really liked this movie and cant wait for it' impending BD release hopefully the UK gets the same two disc set if not it looks like an import which shouldn't be a problem with it being Warner brothers as all there titles have been Rfee hope the directors cut is the lost unrated version that there was talk of.

Bare bones DVD? I can't afford a BR player, as some mentioned. They are coming down in price, but not nearly enough for me to WANT one and pay almost $20 extra for a movie sometimes. Looks like I'll be pirating this one, thanks WB!

[quote=Bouncy X wrote]"Everytime you see a scene in the future where the other movies are concerned it DOES look like a nuclear winter and gives the impression of a dark,decaying,cold world in ALL 3 movies and even the footage filmed for T2 3-D: Battle Across Time. So you tell me why James Cameron always filmed the future that way smartass."

the only difference between this movie and the previous 3 is that their future scenes were all at night. what makes them look like nuclear winter? [/quote]

Well the fact that you can't have a nuclear war without a nuclear winter which is probably what James Cameron was thinking, lol.

"Everytime you see a scene in the future where the other movies are concerned it DOES look like a nuclear winter and gives the impression of a dark,decaying,cold world in ALL 3 movies and even the footage filmed for T2 3-D: Battle Across Time. So you tell me why James Cameron always filmed the future that way smartass."

the only difference between this movie and the previous 3 is that their future scenes were all at night. what makes them look like nuclear winter?

then it'll probably be sorta like Die Hard 4, just little scenes or lines added that woulda gotten an R rating. though if this sells well, i can see them releasing an actual extended version since there is apparently a longer cut.

[quote=Bouncy X wrote][quote=gkyle2006 wrote]this was a terminator film right? Then why did we only see like 3 terminators? IF this is the big war then shouldnt there big terminators everywhere you look? Where was the T-700? I know i saw a toy for one in walmart but yet didnt see it in the movie. too many questions and plot holes this movie created. [/quote]

well the movie did feature a terminator as one of the leads so.

as for someone else's comment about "nuclear winter" in the previous movies. just because the future scenes took place at night doesn't mean daylight didn't exist anymore. they probably just thought it looked cooler at night. its funny seeing people make their own conclusions about something and think they are facts.

[quote=angelkay311 wrote]I just watch T2 with the alternate ending to have complete closure in my mind.[/quote]

you dont even need the alternate ending. based on the theatrical ending, it gives the impression they've stopped judgment day from ever happening by destroying all evidence that could connect and/or lead to it.

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Every time you see a scene in the future where the other movies are concerned it DOES look like a nuclear winter and gives the impression of a dark,decaying,cold world in ALL 3 movies and even the footage filmed for T2 3-D: Battle Across Time. So you tell me why James Cameron always filmed the future that way smartass.

Terminator Salvation was fantastic on the level of art design -- the terminators move so well in this film, it puts the earlier films to shame (but that can't be helped, the originals didn't have this level of visual effects quality available to them).

And as far as the story goes, Salvation was a nice mix of Resident Evil Extinction, Mad Max, and the Terminator series. If it had just retreaded the Terminator story of "machine chases after hero" I'd have been bored.

Instead, it was a war story, and a good one -- all the themes of typical war stories are here: heroes crossing enemy lines, questions of loyalties and identity, romance, sacrifice... If Bogart could have been in any Terminator movie, he would have been in Termainator Salvation.

J Linc wrote: The fact that they are not offering the director's cut for the DVD release is pretty much guaranteeing many to pirate the Blu-ray version... not cool at all. Not everyone can afford an HDTV and Blu-ray player.

Exactly. Real bad move. I bet it won't sell much.

Funny how many ppl here don't like the movie but the movie was quite a success all over the world except in US. I wonder why ?

I will eventually get this...maybe. I, too am a blu ray owner and it's not fair for those who can't dish out the cash for a BR player to not be able to get the same enjoyable experiences as those with BR players. They should have at least put the DC on standard.

Wow, they're really screwing DVD costumers this time. Good thing I'm planning on going Blu soon. Big fan of the Terminator series, and this was no exception (despite some major problems) Where's the cover art?

gkyle2006 wrote: this was a terminator film right? Then why did we only see like 3 terminators? IF this is the big war then shouldnt there big terminators everywhere you look? Where was the T-700? I know i saw a toy for one in walmart but yet didnt see it in the movie. too many questions and plot holes this movie created.

well the movie did feature a terminator as one of the leads so.

as for someone else's comment about "nuclear winter" in the previous movies. just because the future scenes took place at night doesn't mean daylight didn't exist anymore. they probably just thought it looked cooler at night. its funny seeing people make their own conclusions about something and think they are facts.

angelkay311 wrote: I just watch T2 with the alternate ending to have complete closure in my mind.

you dont even need the alternate ending. based on the theatrical ending, it gives the impression they've stopped judgment day from ever happening by destroying all evidence that could connect and/or lead to it.

It's like everyone saw the name McG and saw the rating of PG-13 and freaked out. It was decent for what it was, and had some fantastic effects and action sequences. The editting was fairly choppy and disjointed in some places and clearly smells of studio interference, but the directing for the most part is pretty good. I'm interested to see if the Director's Cut plays out any better.

To call this worse than Transformers 2 or to suggest that the movie is poor because Wal-Mart advertised a toy that wasn't in the movie is completely ridiculous.

The fact that they are not offering the director's cut for the DVD release is pretty much guaranteeing many to pirate the Blu-ray version... not cool at all. Not everyone can afford an HDTV and Blu-ray player.

Ah, I remember with fondness the days when an hour documentary, a commentary and a trailer was considered a fantastic extras package. These days, anything less than three hours of video extras and four commentary tracks will get labelled "a bit lacking" by someone.

i know the movie didnt make as much money as they expected but for all the compklaining about the lack of any extras on the dvd, the blu-ray still doesnt have much. i expected a summer effects driven movie like this would have a ton of extras.

its cool they are indeed including a director's cut though but yeah. although the "focus points" can sometimes last over an hour on their own so i guess that's something.

Should have known that the DVD release would be basically bare-bones. I can't even recall the last Warner Bros. new release that I've bought on DVD, it's been that long. Plus the shoddy treatment for the standard DVD release has really turned me off to buying any new releases from WB.

But who knows, perhaps by December there may be some good deals on Blu-Ray players and I could pick one up by then.

this was a terminator film right? Then why did we only see like 3 terminators? IF this is the big war then shouldnt there big terminators everywhere you look? Where was the T-700? I know i saw a toy for one in walmart but yet didnt see it in the movie. too many questions and plot holes this movie created.

Looks like an import on Blu for me, it's Watchmen all over again........

UPDATE

Just read elsewhere that Sony Pictures have confirmed that the UK DVD is Theatrical Cut only and the BD is both Theatrical and Director's Cut but.......via seamless branching and not separate discs like the US 3 disc release.

Assuming this is 100% correct, the choice is between the US 3 Disc BD or the Play.Com 2 Disc Steelbook..........

I think the bare bones DVD is a good idea, they're trying to get people to upgrade to Blu. There are a lot of people who don't care about special features, and obviously not all of them are the same, but it's my experience that a lot of these same people don't care about special features don't find the need to upgrade to Blu either.

It makes sense to slight DVD owners (and I don't own a blu-ray player) it's the only way they'll continue to sell anything. Most people I know are happy downloading movies for free or renting them to rip, soon the only people still buying movies will be blu-ray owners.

I don't think the directors cut is going to be released in Europe, because Sony distributed it here and Warners for the US. But assuming the BD will be Reg A/B it shouldn't matter. I would be interested in seeing an extended cut so I will probably import it.

I thought Anton Yelchin and Sam Worthington were great in this, the stars of the show for IMO. Especially Yelchin as a young Kyle.

And for those who can't stand T3 or Salvation just watch T2 with the alternate ending, problem solved.

One of the worst film this summer, just behind Transformers 2. Honestly, this felt nothing like a 'Terminator Film' at all. Christian Bale portrayed the most boring John Connor to date, even Thomas Dekker puts in far more interest performance as JC than him.

It's a pity, to see how the Terminator franchise is going down the dwell, and fast. The genius script and pulsating action 'Terminator Films' are the thing of the past. James Cameron's The Terminator and T2 are the only worthy 'Terminator Films' IMHO.

forcing people to buy blu ray.i have a blu player but that's beside the point,i don't like this new idea of only having extras etc on the blu ray only.having said that it was a pretty poor film so i'm not sure i would buy it on either format.