jta1975 wrote:Some guys can break you down with the dribble. Some guys are good passers. The great points do both.

If the Cavs do get the first pick and take the PG from Duke. Baron will be invaluable.

If he doesn't go south and quit. Drives me crazy about guys like Baron is that they can clearly play. But too many times during a season he looks like he doesn't want or he just flat-out doesn't suit up.

Guy could be an asset and a veteran presence. But he could also be a bad influence on a kid depending where BD's own head is.

jta1975 wrote:Some guys can break you down with the dribble. Some guys are good passers. The great points do both.

If the Cavs do get the first pick and take the PG from Duke. Baron will be invaluable.

If he doesn't go south and quit. Drives me crazy about guys like Baron is that they can clearly play. But too many times during a season he looks like he doesn't want or he just flat-out doesn't suit up.

Guy could be an asset and a veteran presence. But he could also be a bad influence on a kid depending where BD's own head is.

Agreed. It will be his choice what way he goes. He is saying and doing the "right" things right now.

We all look at life differently in our 30s than we did in our 20s. Maybe he has matured. Only time will tell.

Hopefully one day he experiences the joy of kicking one of those entry passes back out to an open mate.

He a big boy. Big appetite. He needs to eat more than the little guys.

What I like best is he ain't a dude to be trifled with. Guy's the first guy in the last six years worth of roster spots that looks like he'd rather hit you in the face than help you up off the floor.

I'd think that attribute would carry a lot of weight with a guy like you. But you still don't see him (or anybody else on the current roster) as being a keeper? Not even as an enforcer off the bench? Not even if he promised to flatten TWOA every time we play the Heat?

Hopefully one day he experiences the joy of kicking one of those entry passes back out to an open mate.

He a big boy. Big appetite. He needs to eat more than the little guys.

What I like best is he ain't a dude to be trifled with. Guy's the first guy in the last six years worth of roster spots that looks like he'd rather hit you in the face than help you up off the floor.

I'd think that attribute would carry a lot of weight with a guy like you. But you still don't see him (or anybody else on the current roster) as being a keeper? Not even as an enforcer off the bench? Not even if he promised to flatten TWOA every time we play the Heat?

He'd be fine in that role but I still don't think you have to keep him. There are other guys out there like that. What I mean by no keepers is there is no one on the roster currently that's not replaceable. I'd be fine keeping a couple guys (like Samuels and Boobie) but you could find guys to serve the enforcer/shooter roles elsewhere too.

e0y2e3 wrote:For an advanced stats analysis guy Pros sure doesn't know WTF WARP is. This top ten should just head to C-Bus and tattoo replacement level on their foreheads.

But who am I to tell out resident analyst about stats?

I threw out a few stats last season and all hell broke loose. It quickly became obvious that this crowd feels they know everything they need and want to know about the Cavs by watching them play and don't want to see any statistical analysis, even as a conversation starting point.

That's fine. You guys don't think that stuff adds anything to the conversation, I won't bring it in here anymore. You notice I didn't use any stats in my question to peeker, and I got a solid response.

If somebody else wants to talk about WARP or whatever, I'll join in. But I ain't bringing that shit in here without an invite. I don't need the

In a round about way tis my point. The ultimate cartoon character, homer, former player, color commentator calling the guy a dumbshit 2-4 times a night???

About once a year the guy strings enough games together to get a few posters to shout, "Yeah see JJ can play. Where are all you haters now."

I just hope Grant doesn't get enamored with what might happen, IMO it doesn't, and doesn't maximize this guy in an offseason trade. Fucking Samuels, limited sample size, has already proven more consistent IMO.

"When a man with money meets a man with experience, the man with experience leaves with money and the man with money leaves with experience."

e0y2e3 wrote:Only in Prosecutors world is a bad use of the +/- stat advanced statistical analysis.

Dumber than a fucking door knob.

And I'm not going back to work till Monday so please defend that statement asshat.

Please? Didn't know that word was in your vocabulary.

Sorry I can't accommodate you. You may have nothing to do for the next four days but I have a life.

If you're bored why don't you go back to monitoring Kevin Durant's tweets? I'm sure we'd all like to know what's on his mind.

Straight up Pros - the day you show me a "stastical" analysis I can't beat down is the day my dick falls off.

Come wit it kid. Come wit it.

Wish I could help but I don't know what "stastical" means. Thanks for the invite, though. Never thought you'd actually ask me to post something (twice), and say "please" as well. Where did I get the idea that you wanted me off this board? I forget. Anyway, have a nice weekend.

Hey, if you want a numbers guy to spar with, Peeker has been throwing out some JJ Hickson stats. Just a thought.