where are you going with this post? what prompted you to write it? is it product information? As for aminos-they are abundant in protein and depending what type you eat, each amino has a varying amount. Always to try to eat complete proteins .however single aminos taken on there own are done so for a specific purpose eg, taurine, glutamine.

For what reason? Have you discovered something that would suggest one would benefit from such a high dose? I don't think I've found any evidence that would support taking more than 2-3 grams at a time.
I've spent a lot of time researching leucine, so I would appreciate any unique info you can throw my way.

For what reason? Have you discovered something that would suggest one would benefit from such a high dose? I don't think I've found any evidence that would support taking more than 2-3 grams at a time.
I've spent a lot of time researching leucine, so I would appreciate any unique info you can throw my way.

Thanks,
-Redemption

I honestly don't know why I'm dosing it so high, lol.

I really upped my cardio for my recomp/cut so I'm just trying to take all precautions to keep the muscle. I'll definitely lower the dose to 2 to 3 grams at a time though if that is what studies that have been done have shown in feedback. I just figured the more the better around pre and post workout.

I really upped my cardio for my recomp/cut so I'm just trying to take all precautions to keep the muscle. I'll definitely lower the dose to 2 to 3 grams at a time though if that is what studies that have been done have shown in feedback. I just figured the more the better around pre and post workout.

Are you dosing with the other two essential BCAAs? If so, are you keeping close to a 2:2:1 ratio?

I've also read that taking TOO much Leucine for extended periods of time can increase one's risk of vitamin B3 deficiency. Although I'm not too sure how the relation occurs... Just something you may want to look into further.

Are you dosing with the other two essential BCAAs? If so, are you keeping close to a 2:2:1 ratio?

I've also read that taking TOO much Leucine for extended periods of time can increase one's risk of vitamin B3 deficiency. Although I'm not too sure how the relation occurs... Just something you may want to look into further.

Just the L-Leucine right now.

I didn't think the isoleucine and the valine were as important as the leucine to buy them in bulk as well. I'm all out of the bulk EAA's and BCAA's I had so I gotta place another order soon.

03-29-2009, 06:16 PM

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dj seems to be the AM Guinea Pig. i remember going through his post history at one point and many of his threads consists of inquiries regarding products similar in nature to ones like these...

stick to the stuff that's been tried and proven dj (e.g. creatine monohydrate, whey protein, multiples, fish oil). seems to me you're always looking for what's "up and coming" or "new and advanced". most people don't understand all most companies nowadays do is attempt to re-invent the wheel by using fancy words, labeling and questionable ingredients. not to mention "proprietary blends".

gotta love those products that have proprietary blends of 3000mg and contain about 27 different vitamins, minerals, herbs and aminos. honestly...

dj seems to be the AM Guinea Pig. i remember going through his post history at one point and many of his threads consists of inquiries regarding products similar in nature to ones like these...

stick to the stuff that's been tried and proven dj (e.g. creatine monohydrate, whey protein, multiples, fish oil). seems to me you're always looking for what's "up and coming" or "new and advanced". most people don't understand all most companies nowadays do is attempt to re-invent the wheel by using fancy words, labeling and questionable ingredients. not to mention "proprietary blends".

gotta love those products that have proprietary blends of 3000mg and contain about 27 different vitamins, minerals, herbs and aminos. honestly...

1 From the School of Public Health and the Department of Medicine, School of Medicine, University of California and the Veterans Administration Center, Los Angeles, California

Test doses of 2 gm. of leucine, isoleucine or valine were administered orally to fasting obese and normal weight subjects; plasma amino acid levels were determined at intervals during a 4 hour period. In all subjects, characteristic plasma clearances were obtained with each of the branched chain amino acids. The fasting level of leucine was re-established after 4 hours, but the isoleucine and valine levels were still elevated with valine showing the greatest increase over the fasting value. Of the amino acids administered, only leucine reduced the plasma levels of the other branched chain amino acids. A 10 gm. test dose of leucine accentuated this reduction and other essential amino acids were also decreased. No clear-cut differences could be demonstrated in the response of obese and normal weight subjects to the administration of the branched chain amino acids.

I take 5gms of 2:1:1 before empty stomach cardio, during my lifting, and right before bed. I supplement some extra taurine too as I heard it is good for your heart. All the other aminos I am getting from shakes and food.

I'm maintaining my muscle as I cut. You could take in more, but I'm not sure it's worth the money. I swear one can go broke buying all of the supplements out there.

1 From the School of Public Health and the Department of Medicine, School of Medicine, University of California and the Veterans Administration Center, Los Angeles, California

Test doses of 2 gm. of leucine, isoleucine or valine were administered orally to fasting obese and normal weight subjects; plasma amino acid levels were determined at intervals during a 4 hour period. In all subjects, characteristic plasma clearances were obtained with each of the branched chain amino acids. The fasting level of leucine was re-established after 4 hours, but the isoleucine and valine levels were still elevated with valine showing the greatest increase over the fasting value. Of the amino acids administered, only leucine reduced the plasma levels of the other branched chain amino acids. A 10 gm. test dose of leucine accentuated this reduction and other essential amino acids were also decreased. No clear-cut differences could be demonstrated in the response of obese and normal weight subjects to the administration of the branched chain amino acids.

Good post

I'm splitting my leucine doses up starting today, 3 grams with breakfast, 3 grams pre-workout, 3 grams post-workout, and 3 grams before bed. Do you guys think this is a better method then my previous dosing protocol of just mega-loading the leucine in just 2 doses ?