Eldonperrito: Thanks for reminding me. I think most probably Viewsats are up with private servers. Hippos Rules: Look at http://ftabeta.com and http://ftazeta.comfor more information on private and public servers via IKS. Cost is roughly $35 a year to $20 per month. You may have to buy a add-on for your receiver costing about $100. You will be required to have an always on broadband internet connection at at least 1 mbps. All the IKS services are much less reliable than previous services. You are looking at 65% of the channels for 50-60% of the time. The downtime can be annoying.

"Hippos Rules" started the thread with a title "Any news or updates on N3" and question "any news?" Zulu: Idiots like you did not understand the question, so I replied: "Absolutely no information on N3." The question has been replied to and further elaborated. There is no room for idiots like you in this thread.

"Hippos Rules" started the thread with a title "Any news or updates on N3" and question "any news?" Zulu: Idiots like you did not understand the question, so I replied: "Absolutely no information on N3." The question has been replied to and further elaborated. There is no room for idiots like you in this thread.

Aesop say...... HUM NANGE TO BADE HARAMI TUM NANGE TO MAHAVIR SWAMI My friend who speak Indian, say this in English translation..... Aesop say......I am naked and very bad you are naked, so he want to boss me with his big thing.

Just wanted to update May 24 seems to have be green lighted by BL and associates.. Late word that Captive Works is now in also. Had been talks prior with CW, but I can now confirm that CW is in... stay tuned

Just in moments ago...Fortec is now in the mix, all Fortec receivers will be receiving the new BL and Associates cardless N3 solution, gotta love this news.

As reported earlier that's now Satopia,Pansat,Captiveworks and now Fortec are all in line for the May 24 file release.

May 24th I understand is tentative . May 24th is the targeted date for release.

For those interested in the technical negotiations...I understand that there is a great deal of money being exchanged to bring us this new file, expect providers at some point to be selling new units, but for now I am of the understanding that ALL units from these providers will be receiving bins atleast initially.

Again Pansat 2500 is out, however there may be a file for that after full release.

All pansat 2700's will have to be returned to original condition to receive the bin file.

Goes without saying that all Fortec have to be back to un altered condition as well

Really sorry fellows,I have bad news to report! Just hours before yesterdays release, the providers Dick/Bev hit us with a HIT in the stream, so release has been delayed while coders work on the fix.

All beta bins are down, dead at moment. All I can tell you is a fix will be coming as soon as they get the fix, last word I got it was a tricky one, but they are optimistic a fix will be within the week.

Now the thing is they are blaming me, say I talked to much on this thread. Nowhere else was it discussed, so they believe Dick/Bev got the lead from here that a fix was coming, so I am the scapegoat, I am now out of the loop, will not be given a beta bin ever again.

So if you must blame someone, blame me if it helps.

It will come out when it comes out, now I have to look for a new job, from now on I am just like the rest of you, waiting for public fix

LK always lacks proper information when she posts on any subject including the history of cond om use. This forum has always been contaminated by her uninformed and racially motivated posts. I am therefore obliged to bring to the notice of the readers these facts as gleaned from Wikipaedia."......Historians may also cite one legend of Minos, related by Antoninus Liberalis in 150 AD, as suggestive of cond om use in ancient societies. This legend describes a curse that caused Minos' semen to contain serpents and scorpions. To protect his seexual partner from these animals, Minos used a goat's bladder as a female cond om....... ......In 16th century Italy, Gabriele Falloppio authored the earliest uncontested description of cond om use. De Morbo Gallico ("The French Disease", referring to syphilis) was published in 1564, two years after Fallopio's death. In this tract, he recommended use of a device he claimed to have invented: linen sheaths soaked in a chemical solution and allowed to dry before use. The cloths he described were sized to cover the glans of the pennis, and were held on with a ribbon. Fallopio claimed to have performed an experimental trial of the linen sheath on 1100 men, and reported that none of them had contracted the dreaded disease...."

This please was hooping back when LK WAS 'the best helper' around here till you came here crying and rating to the admin to have everyone banned from here. Hundreds of members posted daily back before you arived here. You've taken over and ruined this place with your moronic friends Subash and Pest Control, plus the help of a self-proclaimed mod aka Plymouth.

YOU IDIOTS have made claims to 'better this place ' to bring it back to where it was the Number 1 site for FTA according to Google. BUT all you've succeeded in doing is RUINED THIS PLACE by giving it a very bad rep and name.

You were warned by so many members ,but you didn't listen. You requested and insisted that the so called trouble makersŁ the fun bunch be banned upon your request. So , do tell ...Is this site better off without the FUN BUNCH and any other members that left because of your constent whining ways? They either left on their own accord or you insisted the admin BANNED them all. All because you told Plymouth too banned EVERYONE that you felt threatened by.

. Look around....so tell us all Nydas where are all your newbie's you claimed would come running in here asking you or subash for help?

I bet the old 'helpers are laughing their "a-sses off at you dumbfucks as they watch this site sink like the Titanic. All because of your ego tripping greedy selfish and very childish ways not to mention FOOLISH endeavours!

BRAVO Nydas. You got your wish to be number 1 helper. And look what that did to this Site that you call home. It's about as useful as road kill now, unless you're a redneck and eat what you kill. Then this is the perfect place for you to be a member in.

Nydas , subash and your idiot freind Pest control, how does it feel to EAT SH!T? Because that's all that comes out of your mouths and lies. This site is nothing more than just a SH!T SITEnow and not a satellite TV review board site by no means.

With your help, helping members to steal satellite TV signals through the internet using IKS privet servers, providing PI and IP address and other illegal information this place is a joke now. I bet it's being watched by Homeland sucerity now all because you retards could not be more discrete when HELPING MEMBERS.

This site IS/ WAS A DISCUSSION BOARD nothing more, but you've successfully turned it in into nothing more than a sick p0rn site discussing disgusting topics like bestiality and how to steal Bell and Dishnet TV channels.

Congratulations..... Post above proves this To protect his seexual partner from these animals, Minos used a goat's bladder as a female cond om.......

LMAO at you fools... who cares about your goat's bladder etc... ?Unless your into that kind of sick sh!t.

you can stop wasting you breath FAKE SADA... I have read the real sada's post in the archives and YOU are not HIM .. He had respect and integrity , he did not talk trash like you SUBASH.

SO STFU. I bet the real sada quit this site like all the rest have after he got married.

I would bet YOU with the help of your admin friend or maybe Plymouth the mod here. gave you the real sada's password to his UNUSED account to hijack his account to make others believe you are he so you and Nydas can direct newbies to your own privet server.

You are SUBASH USING SADA's account !!!!! Just like Pest control hijacked Pulpfictions account. to gain TRUST in newbies using the real sada reputaion as a GOOD HELPER . Becuase everyone know's your own rep and your co-harts's SUCK and noone would ever take your would for it . BECAUSE YOU HONESETLY NO NOTHING.

How many other accounts have you hijack huh?

FU fool. LMAO ...ya piece of sh!t ! Go hide your head up the admins a-ss like ususal and cry to him to ban me. Maybe if we are all lucky, he'll blow you a kiss and f@rt in the filthy mouth of yours and SHUT YOU THE HELL UP

LK always lacks proper information when she posts on any subject including the history of cond om use.This forum has always been contaminated by her uninformed and racially motivated posts. I am therefore obliged to bring to the notice of the readers these facts as gleaned from Wikipaedia. "......Historians may also cite one legend of Minos, related by Antoninus Liberalis in 150 AD, as suggestive of cond om use in ancient societies. This legend describes a curse that caused Minos' semen to contain serpents and scorpions. To protect his seexual partner from these animals, Minos used a goat's bladder as a female cond om....... ......In 16th century Italy, Gabriele Falloppio authored the earliest uncontested description of cond om use. De Morbo Gallico ("The French Disease", referring to syphilis) was published in 1564, two years after Fallopio's death. In this tract, he recommended use of a device he claimed to have invented: linen sheaths soaked in a chemical solution and allowed to dry before use. The cloths he described were sized to cover the glans of the pennis, and were held on with a ribbon. Fallopio claimed to have performed an experimental trial of the linen sheath on 1100 men, and reported that none of them had contracted the dreaded disease...."

Now her ex-lesbo friend has joined in under a male name to corrupt and contaminate this good forum.

Nydas get the hint we don't care to read your garbage about animals PERIOD.

What does that have to to with this SATELLITE TV REVEIW MESSAGE BOARD/ FORUM... can't you understand english at all?

Or does the filthy infection you got from subash effecting your one brain cell you have left to STFU about anything to do with SEX*UAL conduct. Be it with or without animals. GROW UP AND MOVE ON TO THE TOPIC THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE TALKED ABOUT IN THIS FORUMSATELLITE TV!!!

If I wanted to read all About your sex*ual endeavours with animals I would have asked and I am sure others would have also. BUT DID WE?....... NO!..... So again I am asking you nicely to ..... GIVE IT A REST FOR A CHANGE OK? and that goes for subash too. SHUT UP WITH YOUR FILTHY MOUTHED S*MUT TALK ABOUT ANIMALS PERIOD!!!.

You are the one primarily to be blamed for your persistence at trying to get Ecoustics down. You have such a thick skin that in spite of being suspended three times you keep on coming back. But no, you are not thick skinned-- you are just doing your job. YOU ARE PAID BY BELL AND DISH TO BRING THIS SITE DOWN.

IF I had a job with Bell TV and or Dishnet ... and I do not. Do you honestly think you or subash and Sada's abandoned account used by susbash now , I would let you fools still be on line posting IP's and information for privet IKS sites?.

If it were my job as you are now claiming, I most definitely would not let that kind of thing continue. Do you think this site has precedence over your illegal activities here?

There is NO threat by me Nydas. I am merely sharing with you and others on this site what I've read all over the internet for years now. Or do you with a conscious rational mind, willingly choose to ignore the warnings that almost every IKS and FTA site that are left, not to heed their warnings to their members that participate in pirating TV CHANNELS is highly against the laws in the USA and Canada?

What is Internet Key Sharing or Card Sharing?

As in name, IKS is the process of sharing a valid smart card subscription with many satellite receivers to watch pay channels freely or with a very low fee. IKS enables to watch scrambled or encrypted pay channels by many viewers (receivers) with the use of only one valid digital smart card. As just 1 valid smart card can be shared among 1000s, the total cost would be shared with in the group, hence every one needs to pay only few bugs! A good idea, isn't it? IKS or Internet Key Sharing itself is not a piracy method, but due to the wonderful idea of sharing a card with many, it is a popular method of pirate decryption of pay channels.

After it is introduced, the IKS or Card Sharing sparked all over by the creation of sharing network group, where in users can share their valid card with the network and in turn receives many other paid channels, shared by others, which is not available with his subscription. The same way many network groups has been created and then connected each other and formed big key sharing servers. The maintenance cost and profit for such servers is collected from the members/clients of the networks and would be very minimal compared to the actual cost of subscribing all channels currently the client receives.

Other methods

Other methods of receiving or illegally decrypting pay channels are; hacking smart cards (smart card piracy) and programming encryption emulator to a FTA receiver. In smart card hacking, hackers would read the smart card internal encryption details, then tweak or change the card internal details to enable the card to access the paid channels. There are a number of underground groups who knows what kind of encryption methods and keys are used by pay channels providers and this information is used to hack the smart card.

In the other method - programming encryption emulator on FTA receiver - the firmware or software of FTA receiver is patched or re-installed with customized software which has the module to act as a valid smart card thus providing access to all encrypted channels. Such software is available to download on many online piracy websites.

Both these methods are not very popular or favorite; the process of rewriting smart cards or installing customized software need to be repeated frequently as the digital TV encryption algorithm used to be changed often. This made IKS as one of the favorite method of digital TV piracy.

Legal and Prevention measures The IKS can be traced through the IP address; hence will provide the details of the user. Case of criminal charges and related measure can be brought against such illegal authorities and users. Each country has their own digital piracy laws and only question here is how effective those to prevent this piracy.

A new scrambling system - CSA3  has been approved by DVB project on 2007 for providing digital TV content. This would hopefully prevent the IKS or Card sharing. This system includes AES 128 bit decryption comparing to existing DVB-CSA 64 bit decryption, provides double security.

this is what Nydas wrote back in Friday, June 26, 2009 - 09:19 am:

Nalin Nyda Platinum Member Username: Nydas

Post Number: 15424 Registered: Jun-06 Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 09:19 am: Walt: I would disagree with the Ontario Supreme court Judge's statement that "One's name and address or the name and address of your spouse are not biographical information one expects would be kept private from the state". In general, it has to be recognized in law that certain aspect of a person are revealed to certain state authorized person(s) but are not necessarily public property. Even your phone number can be kept private and not published, and yet some of the employees at the telephone company would know it. Doctors and doctor's offices keep very private detailed records of individuals and they are for their eys only - not to be revealed even to a spouse without authorization. Yes, they can be revealed in a court under a judge's instruction and only to the extent required. Your IP address should therefore have some level of privacy and it has been established for a very long time that a warrant is the instrument for legal intrusion into privacy. ____________

Nydas do you still believe you are safe in that they (the RCMPs) will not charge you under some made up claim that you have about IP privacy and that you're IP is privet enough to keep the authorities from you front door?

IKS stands for Internet Key Sharing. Lets first begin by saying that IKS or IKS Private Servers are illegal. It is a method of allowing multiple digital television receivers to access a subscription satellite television network with only one valid subscription card. This is achieved by electronically sharing a part of the legitimate conditional access smart cards output data (also known as keys, hence the name IKS (internet key sharing), enabling all recipients to gain simultaneous access to scrambled satellite streams, held on the encrypted television network. The pirate community has written software for some of the free-to-air receiver brands. This software is downloaded from the Internet and saved to a USB flash drive. The flash drive is then inserted into the receiver and the factory firmware is replaced with third party firmware. Now the FTA receiver has a new operating system. When a high-speed internet connection is plugged into the back of the FTA receiver, the new pirate firmware knows the IP address of a server that has a connected legitimate paid service. This legitimate smart card is attached to a digital television receiver, which is equipped with software to share the decrypted keys over the Internet. Once a client receives this key, they can decrypt the encrypted content as though they were using their own subscription card.

Card sharing has established itself as popular method of pirate decryption. Much of the development of card sharing hardware and software has taken place in Europe, where national boundaries mean that home users are able to receive satellite televison signals from many countries but are unable to legally subscribe to them due to licensing restrictions on broadcasters.

Because the length of the is so small (typically 64 bits), delivery of the to many different clients is easily possible on a home internet connection. This has sparked the creation of sharing network groups, in which users can access the group by sharing their subscription cards with the group, and in turn, being capable of receiving the channels which all users cards can decrypt, as though the user owned every single subscription card connected to the network. Other networks have also been created, whereby one server has multiple legitimate subscription cards connected to it. Access to this server is then restricted to those who pay the servers owner their own subscription fee.

An example of such a card sharing system, also known as Internet Key Sharing (IKS) was run by Charles Carillo of New Britain, Connecticut. Between 2007 - 2010 Carillo mass marketed so-called FTA receivers modified to illegally receive Dish Network subscription programming using a card sharing server. Carillo marketed such devices from several paper frontŁ companies such as nfusion.ws, WorldWideFTA, Tequista Enterprises and Power Pay Services. In 2010 the satellite operation was shut down and Charles K. Carillo was found liable in Federal Court to Dish Network for $666,000 in damages.

F uck the status quo!Good job on the 411 on how to steal signal Tommy! I had no idea on the different methods.I need to get out from my cave more often.One last thing do your thing and let others do theirs,why care what others do with their time,and what laws get broken by whom,and if anybody on this site has any legal authority by all means enforce it or simply shut the f uck up.

Perrito FYI ... in case you didn't read the first sentence, let me remind you of its content .IKS stands for Internet Key sharing. Lets first begin by saying that IKS or IKS Private Servers are illegal.

Therefore I fail to see how I was in anyway helping to steal signals.

Have you got any common sense at all?

quote made by you Perrito One last thing do your thing and let others do theirs end quote

YOUR POINT IS?

Quotealso made by Perrito if anybody on this site has any legal authority by all means enforce it or simply shut the f uck up.End quote

FYI... a discussion board means to discuss the pros and cons against IKS aka SATELLITE TV INTERNET KEY SHARRING TV CHANNEL PIRACY. Am I right or wrong to do so? It is within my legal right to point out the laws as i have previously stated. So therefore your comment to me mean sh!t. You people fail to recognize what a discussion review board means.

BTW..... legal authority is anyones right to enforce it by means of discussing it on any forum , blog, twiter and so on. Show me where i can't.

Nydas has accused me of "abusive barrage " towards him or maybe he ment to type " Abusive badgering " either or is totally legal to discuss the laws here on this discussion board.

UNLESS YOU ARE GUILTY OF SAID CRIMES AND REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE TRUTH as a member here.

So how about you STFU and mind your own business and practice what you preach.

Thats right.Consumers need education on satellite technical problems Best satellite receivers available,best servers,and set up, Not about the right or wrong way of the law,if they know how to work a receiver they know about it being borderline illegal...They just don't tripp as much as you do,but unless there is something that you get out of it like maybe you get pay for doing it?

Wow! chill cabron don't call me a criminal i don't sell or activate anything no one here does all we do is talk and share or copy & paste...... Work is work the perk is i meet a whole lot of different people everyday.I fell of the ladder 3 weeks ago twisted the ankle one week no work.I need another job.

Does that make it all "OK or legal" to use , regardless of the illegal factors?

Just because something is readily available over the internet, doesn't mean one has to join and break the laws.

BTW ...."newbies" might not be aware of the laws against it ( like myself when I first joined this site) and it is common practice to read ALL information regarding ANYTHING you do before proceeding into any adventure.

UNLESS, you choose to ignore the pros and cons and keep trying to betray others in believing IT IS ALL LEGAL AND ON THE UP AND UP ... like Nydas and subash are doing.

Tommy_h aka Doreen: It is clear that you know a lot about satellites and things. I also notice that you have and exact mirror of the stance taken by Dish and Bell. I did not expect anything less from an employee of these big companies. They do not have time to supervise their field operatives on a day to day basis, so their train their operatives quite well to at least portray their point of view. Now the next thing, which I tried to put in simple English, but which perrito has put very succinctly is:

"and if anybody on this site has any legal authority by all means enforce it or simply shut the f uck up."

HELLOOOO ................does anything "of any legal authority" mean posting the laws as a concerned citizen adhering strictly to laws and rules and customs, then YES I guess I have the autority to enforce the laws !

Wow..this site is DEAD...lucky to last another 2-3 months based on the NO TRAFFIC, and loss of internet hits and sponsors money....We all could see this ship sinking soon as Nalin, Sukazz and Plymouth characters were created and entered here by the admin and staff...Brain, U brought this on yerself,,,DN doesn't need this place anymore either cuz no posts or news...this ship has sunk!...now they're just bailing out water with no luck.....was a slow death and dragged out but now its OVER...just a matter of a very short time...Playing that Middle East card sure got Brian in deep financial loss, and loss of the site.....LMAO...can't say the fun bunch never told ya Brain and admin...sucks to be you now...hahaha

I been reading about this site being dead for a long time and somehow is not.It might be dead to those who quit(p ussies),and all they do is come back every so often and post s hit & talk smack to people who seek help and then leave again as if anybody would miss them all because they can't stand people from other parts of the world who can be smart too.Sad,sad,sad........ADRIAAAAANNNNN!!!!!!!!!

Dude..guess ya can't see the stats and posts here..a blind man can see this site is DEAD...and has been for over a year or so...but now its already sunk....just the water rats hanging out here now clinging to the debris floating around

LK: Any blind man can see that YOU, LK, the dead woman, is frequently attempting a resurrection. Can't you get it in your head that your brand of confrontation is out-of-date, and co-operation is what is needed in a forum? Can't you get it in your head that there are often other people who KNOW MORE than you? Can't you get it in your head that irrational bashing of good helpers will get YOU nowhere except perhaps a court of law?

F U Nydas..U ruined a site that once was OK with some satellite info and help for the newbies...now nydas and your rag head friends, can take credit for creating the worse site in satellite TV history....and Brian Mitchell can take credit for being behind it all and endorsing the downfall of his own site, presuming he really owned it, which I never believed.....I always knew Directv TV, and Dishnet, legal and law authorities always owned these satellite boards/forums and had Nydas (NN) and their other fake characters and moles intentionally ruin it..so they won this battle and is sending another site down the tubes , like all the rest they have...

Good job satellite companies and officials, ya really trashed and ruined this site..and in a slick way too by getting all the people/real members to argue with ya, reply back at ya, make some $$$ along the way with google and internet hits , while destroying this site...

Take a bow Nydas and all U fake characters and ragheads, ..U too Plymouth...U all accomplished your mission...another site bites the dust..

LK: The problem with you was and is still is, the total lack of forum skills and etiquette. To you, what you know (which is very little) is Gospel. To you, what you do not know (which is quite a lot) is not worth knowing. In your mind, anybody who does not lick your dirty aar*se is worth tramping.

It is surprising that you are still around here, after tons of exposure of your lack of knowledge and inadequacies. It is surprising that you are still preaching knowledge of FTA, when all you know was how to put up files at your now banned site, because Ecoustics had the wisdom not to put them up. It is surprising that you have not been sued by half a dozen people.

F U Nydas..U ruined a site that once was OK with some satellite info and help for the newbies...now nydas and your rag head friends, can take credit for creating the worse site in satellite TV history....and Brian Mitchell can take credit for being behind it all and endorsing the downfall of his own site, presuming he really owned it, which I never believed.....I always knew Directv TV, and Dishnet, legal and law authorities always owned these satellite boards/forums and had Nydas (NN) and their other fake characters and moles intentionally ruin it..so they won this battle and is sending another site down the tubes , like all the rest they have...

Good job satellite companies and officials, ya really trashed and ruined this site..and in a slick way too by getting all the people/real members to argue with ya, reply back at ya, make some $$$ along the way with google and internet hits , while destroying this site...

Take a bow Nydas and all U fake characters and ragheads, ..U too Plymouth...U all accomplished your mission...another site bites the dust..

LK: The problem with you was and is still is, the total lack of forum skills and etiquette. To you, what you know (which is very little) is Gospel. To you, what you do not know (which is quite a lot) is not worth knowing. In your mind, anybody who does not lick your dirty aar*se is worth tramping.

It is surprising that you are still around here, after tons of exposure of your lack of knowledge and inadequacies. It is surprising that you are still preaching knowledge of FTA, when all you know was how to put up files at your now banned site, because Ecoustics had the wisdom not to put them up. It is surprising that you have not been sued by half a dozen people.

hahaha...0 posts here yesterday and 1 post today in these satellite forums...yeah this site is doing even worse than I thought...it won't last the rest of this month at this rate.....hahahahaha...good job nydas and the rest of the moles...U really fkd up this place...and no monies now for Brian or DN and the lowlifes that own this place.......too funny....another one bites the dust..

Idiot LK after your site was taken over and is now a satscam site, you tried to make a buck being a charlie mole. However charlie must have found that you are no use since you are retarded as well as senile.

Even though you are despicable and loathsome, still feel sorry for you

The importers of Viewsats had a serious setback with their inventory seized. The software people are reluctant to do anything with the Viewsats as there are not many very recent owners. That is best info I can find for you on the Internet.

Don't I feel foolish...I have been royally scammed. I have been getting for almost 2 years now what I thought was a Beta bin from BL and associates..

Turns out there is no BL, he does not exist and never did! Now I have been getting free tv for a couple years, this is true, but I now find out that it was only a ploy by this very sexy woman to have her way with me.

Her name is Roxanne, 33 year old bombshell that just wanted me as her boy toy. She was my so called "insider" that was feeding me all the "new bin garbage" that I was telling you all about.

So she would come over 3 or 4 times a week dressed for sexxxxxx and I bought it all, hook line and sinker.

Now dont get me wrong, it's been wonderful, no regrets. I asked Roxanne when I found out what she had done, she just wanted me, said it was love at first site and this was the easiest way for her to get to know me she thought.

Roxanne simply was paying the bill for the works package and making all the rest up just as an excuse to come over, she felt I was out of her league.

At any rate we are to be married, we are cancelling the very expensive sat package and all is well.

Sorry for any of you that may have fallen for scam as I did. I think it's safe to say there will never be a cardless N3 solution, so accept it.

I confirm that LK has posted several times before of having been with BL. I believe they worked together on some of BL's earlier BINs, as BL needed somebody to distribute his work, and LK had connections with at least two forums where he posted BL's files.

Don't I feel foolish...I have been royally scammed. I have been getting for almost 2 years now what I thought was a Beta bin from BL and associates..

Turns out there is no BL, he does not exist and never did! Now I have been getting free tv for a couple years, this is true, but I now find out that it was only a ploy by this very sexy woman to have her way with me.

Her name is Roxanne, 33 year old bombshell that just wanted me as her boy toy. She was my so called "insider" that was feeding me all the "new bin garbage" that I was telling you all about.

So she would come over 3 or 4 times a week dressed for sexxxxxx and I bought it all, hook line and sinker.

Now dont get me wrong, it's been wonderful, no regrets. I asked Roxanne when I found out what she had done, she just wanted me, said it was love at first site and this was the easiest way for her to get to know me she thought.

Roxanne simply was paying the bill for the works package and making all the rest up just as an excuse to come over, she felt I was out of her league.

At any rate we are to be married, we are cancelling the very expensive sat package and all is well.

Sorry for any of you that may have fallen for scam as I did. I think it's safe to say there will never be a cardless N3 solution, so accept it.

As in name, IKS is the process of sharing a valid smart card subscription with many satellite receivers to watch pay channels freely or with a very low fee. IKS enables to watch scrambled or encrypted pay channels ..........(continues)"

So is your pschiatrist, tell him/her all your systems. They can help you better in the diagnosis and treatment of all your mental disorders. Ask Nydas who he see's then get a better doctor his isn't helping him what so ever.

simple math..wtf...log in's 60% bogus statement regarding rich people, has nothing to do with your simple math comment ..so how do ya come up with "ya got that right?..they have nothing in common..and 1 statement is not true...he must be a dumb azz Republican voting for Mr Flip Flop, the Mormon who wants to reverse Wade vs Roe and destroy years of progress in this country, in all areas from economy, military wars,. womens rights,foreign affairs and ending wars, and creating a real fkn mess like all Republicans have done for at least the 8 years dipshit Bush was in office......