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Hopefully they suck like with the 3DS so I don't feel obligated to buy something so far out of my budget

Screw you man! I say give us a nice number of awesome games and have a floodgate of games coming once every month or 2 months over the launch period so that a Vita or Wii U launch window is avoided. The 3DS situation is something all companies wanna avoid.

Screw you man! I say give us a nice number of awesome games and have a floodgate of games coming once every month or 2 months over the launch period so that a Vita or Wii U launch window is avoided. The 3DS situation is something all companies wanna avoid.

-didn't show the console
-very little game play footage, mostly all pre-rendered (and didn't look much better than current gen)
-lack of game play footage for console that has rumors of it coming out this year, early next, indicates there will be very few games out at launch if this is the case
-must have a Facebook account to play
-"share" button

Did they actually say it won't be backwards compatible? What about the used games thing?

woot21 out dawgs

I have created a new word for the internet LOLE it means laugh out loud evily, if you think it is a good word copy and paste this into your sig. and use it. (started by woot21)I am the prince of all noobs. I am the dreaded super noob, fear my noobiness. I obey only my lord and master the king of all noobs, Magikarp.

Well while I want a proper look at the conference (mainly cause the stream I was able to watch was buggy and laggy as heck) here are my initial thoughts.

Pros:
~ Killzone: Shadow Fall.
Looked beautiful and engaging.
~ Better integration for players.
Definitely feel the PS3 user interface is less welcoming than the 360's so I welcome the concept of an interface focus. Most definitely like how easy it sounds like it will be to record game footage and share it. Not so sure I like the idea of someone being able to take control of my game though.

Cons
~ Console itself didn't appear.
...How the heck can you have a conference about a new console without showing the actual console?
~ Suggestion of using actual names and pictures
That's gotta represent a huge potential security risk. Also why can't Sony introduce it's own Avatar system?
~ Just 2 exclusives?
From what I saw they only announced 2 PS4 exclusives...
~ Increased focus on 'The Cloud' and Downloads
Maybe I'm a bit old fashioned but I like physical copies of games and to have things stored on my console.
~ No discussion of whether or not a constant internet connection is required or if the console will block used games.

Things I'm neutral about
~ The controller.
Sounds and looks okay, but can't be sure of its size until I get actual measurements.

I'm interested about the live-streaming of your games to your friends and how they can control for you, and how they can post comments

Too bad we didn't see the real thing. They could've just shown a picture or something.

I'm a little worried honestly. I'm feeling the same way I felt when I first saw the Wii U, and it wasn't that good.

But then again I'm excited too. The inclusion of a head phone jack is a smart move.

Last edited by zerothethird; 21st February 2013 at 3:33 AM.

Best. Glee. Episode. Ever: S2 Blame It on the Alcohol"Girl, what you drinking? Gonna let sink in
Here for the weekend
Thinking we can
See what we can be if we press fast forward
Just one more round and you’re down I know it"

On the one hand, it saves trouble trying to find a save point, but there are games which you can save in most situations. However, I feel that having save points is one thing that separates videogames from other media. Plus, by suspending, you may not be able to revisit an earlier stage where you can fix a mistake.

Pretty much all of it was said to be running live on the PS4, not pre-rendered. Kind of hard for me to judge how great it looks since I was watching on a stream but whatever.

Watch Dogs was a PC demo. Everything else I saw was a pre-rendered cutscene. The Capcom one seemed pre-rendered as well. Plus, how could it be running live on a console that may not even exist yet?

I'd imagine they'd be saving some thing for E3, but they did show some gameplay.

Watch Dogs doesn't count.

No.

I missed the start of the conference, but from what I've gathered you do.

So?

Just pointing out it isn't an idea you want to push on a console. I don't want to post stuff to my Facebook. Besides, social gaming is the kind of thing "hardcore" gamers blast, and the PS3 fan base considers itself "hardcore".

It's going to be cloud-based backwards compatability, however that works. No news on the used games thing.

So you have to buy all of your old PS3 games again if I want to play them on the PS4?

woot21 out dawgs

I have created a new word for the internet LOLE it means laugh out loud evily, if you think it is a good word copy and paste this into your sig. and use it. (started by woot21)I am the prince of all noobs. I am the dreaded super noob, fear my noobiness. I obey only my lord and master the king of all noobs, Magikarp.

At least we would've seen something, which is obviously better than nothing.

Best. Glee. Episode. Ever: S2 Blame It on the Alcohol"Girl, what you drinking? Gonna let sink in
Here for the weekend
Thinking we can
See what we can be if we press fast forward
Just one more round and you’re down I know it"

Watch Dogs was a PC demo. Everything else I saw was a pre-rendered cutscene. The Capcom one seemed pre-rendered as well. Plus, how could it be running live on a console that may not even exist yet?

The console does exist, that's what they were showing off today. That was the entire point of the presentation. Not to mention they said "This is running live on the PS4" for Killzone, Capcom, SE, Quantic Dream, Unreal Engine 4, pretty much everything they showed.

Watch Dogs doesn't count.

Why not? It's a PS4 game now too. It was probably the only one ready to be demonstrated at this point.

I missed the start of the conference, but from what I've gathered you do.

Except you don't. They didn't say that at all.

Just pointing out it isn't an idea you want to push on a console. I don't want to post stuff to my Facebook. Besides, social gaming is the kind of thing "hardcore" gamers blast, and the PS3 fan base considers itself "hardcore".

They're not going to cater to neckbeards, they're going for the larger part of the market. Besides if it's on a button then that means it's optional.

So you have to buy all of your old PS3 games again if I want to play them on the PS4?