(03-14-2012 03:31 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote: I would like to take FAU over FIU as well. I really like what I see in FAU.

They do have a beautiful stadium and are in a great location though

THAT is all that matters in these days of expansion. If product on the field was what mattered Troy would have been invited to a "better" conference a long time ago.

True, although if you guys were averaging 30k or so you'd have probably been invited to a "better" conference also, assuming you defined better as C-USA. A good product and good attendance got Marshall in as the only "small market" addition last time. Right now there aren't a lot of options out there averaging in that 30k range.

(03-14-2012 07:37 PM)HERD-it-wuz-DJ Wrote: Honestly, I think who ever from the SBC goes to the National Conference will benefit and grow tremendously.

I'll say this much, in defense of the applicants. For years, the SBC has fought the perception, of the entire country, that we wouldn't amount to much. Now, we have a much tighter grouping of institutions than the alliance will have and I see value in that. There are pros and cons that we could battle back and forth about, but I just don't believe the logistics of the whole thing will work.

(03-14-2012 03:31 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote: I would like to take FAU over FIU as well. I really like what I see in FAU.

So the 1-11 record and 3rd worst attendance in the belt impressed you that much?

They do have a beautiful stadium and are in a great location though

Don't forget that the seats are colored as well.

Nah, but we would like to have a Florida school and FAU>FIU.

Sure, you seem to be one of those fans that like teams that will not be a challenge. Stadium aesthetics are obviously important to you so i see where you are going with this.

Get over yourself, you act like FAU's entire program has always been what their football team was in 2011.

FAU bowls 2-0
FIU bowls 1-1
Head to head FAU 8-2

Without looking it up, I feel safe in assuming they probably hold at least a small advantage in basketball as well, at least in recent years anyhow.

Personally I think if one is taken by the Alliance, it's basically a coin flip and I think either would be just as likely to be successful in the Alliance as the other.

It's kind of funny that you think you guys have truly distinguishable programs to pretty much anyone outside of the Sun Belt or that either of you has a true advantage on the other, what's funnier is you're the one on the wrong end of the all time series and bowl records and FAU does have the nicer stadium and yet you're acting all indignant about someone saying they prefer FAU. Not saying you shouldn't stick up for your program, but don't act like he said he preferred Stetson over FIU, good grief.

(03-14-2012 07:37 PM)HERD-it-wuz-DJ Wrote: Honestly, I think who ever from the SBC goes to the National Conference will benefit and grow tremendously.

LIE.

Your conference USA guys like to spin this statement so much. The truth of the matter is that playing in conference USA has not helped any of the teams who moved on it was just a door step conference.

SMU was very good in the past but was hit by harsh sanctions
Houston was very good in the past but was snubbed by politics
UCF was built in Orlando and that had nothing to do with conference USA
Memphis is Memphis and probably would have been making the tourney every year if they played in the SWAC.

Do you see the recurring fact here? The teams who are leaving were already established long before the Marshall's of the world joined. They were not "improved" by conference USA

(03-14-2012 07:37 PM)HERD-it-wuz-DJ Wrote: Honestly, I think who ever from the SBC goes to the National Conference will benefit and grow tremendously.

LIE.

Your conference USA guys like to spin this statement so much. The truth of the matter is that playing in conference USA has not helped any of the teams who moved on it was just a door step conference.

SMU was very good in the past but was hit by harsh sanctions
Houston was very good in the past but was snubbed by politics
UCF was built in Orlando and that had nothing to do with conference USA
Memphis is Memphis and probably would have been making the tourney every year if they played in the SWAC.

Do you see the recurring fact here? The teams who are leaving were already established long before the Marshall's of the world joined. They were not "improved" by conference USA

I think that's wrong to say that C-USA didn't help those schools. Here's a question, how many programs that joined C-USA in the last expansion (Tulsa, Rice, Marshall, UCF, SMU, UTEP) are worse programs now than before they joined? The only one who you could say would be Marshall, and they had some probation and coaching issues. Tulsa, UCF, and SMU have grown leaps and bounds from where they were prior to joining, and Rice and UTEP have been better than they were historically. If 5 of the 6 are better for joining than they were previously C-USA must have done something right.