I Will Share My Personal Alien Abduction ATTEMPT Story

I dont mind that you "invoked" the power of some deity to stop an abduction, but to me that means nothing.

To stop a ethereal event, you just need focus and will power. The invocation of christ is an idea, a point to focus yourself around, something to
anchor you so that you could reject these things.

A deity is not needed to do this. All you need is pure focus on what you want, unwavering determination. I could invoke the power of a corn field if
that makes me feel empowered. To make this into some religious event is ridiculous in my opinion. I have witnessed and taken part in things that most
would say were some deity's handy work. It wasnt, it was my own. You can say well maybe Im just reading the events wrong. I say people have no idea
what they are actually capable of so it HAS to be some outside force.

So you were watching conspiracy documentaries and then fell asleep, most likely it was just a dream because we often dream about things that have
recently happened to us, example if you watch a scary movie than got to bed you are more likely to have a nightmare.

Everything you said has been things I have been thinking about for a while now. I'm trying to reconcile my faith with this. I'm on a journey and
will not stop until I get to the ultimate truth.

Thank you for your words.

I'm only human, most of what I say is probably flawed. We're all in the same boat and don't really know - but I have meditated to a great extent on
things, I have many experiences via meditations that I can't explain in human words because of the inherent flaw with rhetoric and perspective.

Keep hunting and you will find your own truth.

@ gostr

study Philosophy from Plato to Terence McKenna and you will learn that EVERYTHING exists in our mind.. All your senses are processed through it..

Like your eyes perceiving the 3D reality, you can open your pineal gland to see TRUTH.

Originally posted by zarp3333
That intrigues me. Even on this site, you will find the same intolerant behavior. I just don't get it. How is it that otherwise "open minded" people
will consider every manner of possibility except one? It only serves to make me think there is some evil aspect to the whole phenomenon that I never
considered possible during the first 20 years of my research into the field.

You just brought up a key issue that VERY few will ever realize: These things are demons which is why their agenda and the agenda of the NWO mesh
together perfectly. The evil agenda is exactly why the whole UFO issue has been hidden by disinfo and propaganda for so many years.

"The implication is this. There's a new "Cosmic Gospel," a new spiritual plan of the ages that the "New Age" are gobbling down as fast as these
entities can feed it to them, however in nearly every case, what they are being told is diametrically apposed to what we are told in the Biblical
record. This "truth" they are being fed is a lie of literally cosmic proportion. But according to CE 4 Research Group's study of the Biblical
record, the alien's "truth" becomes recognizable for the lie it really is, which is a scam, and not a very original scam at that. In fact it's the
same lie Satan scammed Eve with in the Garden of Eden.

Okay, who are they, really?

The purpose of the scam is simple. The intentions of the "Space Brothers" are to destroy mankind, and the easiest way to accomplish this task is to
hit them where they are most vulnerable: their inability to discern spirit. What they are presenting to mankind is a "Counterfeit Gospel," and what
is a counterfeit? Something that looks almost exactly like the real thing, but isn't the real thing. You have never seen a counterfeit $23 bill.
That’s because there are no real $23 bills. There are counterfeit $20 bills because there are real $20 bills. Only reality gets counterfeited.
Furthermore, if you were to be given a counterfeit $20, it better look an awful lot like a real $20, or you’d never accept it. And so it goes with
the abduction phenomenon and the alien's so-called "Cosmic Gospel."

The New Age and the UFO/abduction phenomenon go hand in hand as the principles of New Age philosophy, as taught by the gurus, come to us largely from
the “Space Brothers” and “Spirit Guides.” One of these principles is, there are no absolute truths. There is no good and evil. Now, the
actions of Mother Theresa are no longer distinguishable from the actions of Charles Manson. Once the enemy got enough people to believe that lie, the
next step was easy. If there is no good and evil, then the atrocities they commit against their victims are neither good or evil. When abductees
respond with fear and terror, it’s merely indicative of their spiritually primitive state. Jordan and Clark are willing to go out on a limb and
suggest that love is love, peace is peace, rape is rape, murder is murder and coercion is coercion, no matter where in the entire universe one goes.
Fortunately, not everyone has forgotten the concept of dignity.

To a spiritually undiscerning mind, the “Space Brother” scam looks awfully convincing, because it is “almost” just like reality. Jordan and
Clark are acquainted with a Pleidian Channeller who asserts the entities whom she channels are ultimately "messengers from God." When asked how she
knew they were of God, she responded, "Because they told me so."

I think that the light and love of god shines through all faiths. All faiths fight the darkness, and honor the Light. It's the road to love and
happiness.

Christ, Krishna, Buddha, Ghandi - it doesn't matter who leads you to the light, so long as the Light of Truth shines within you, which is having
faith in Love and humanity - ourselves. We are made in Light and Love with the power of creation at our finger tips. Of course we are blessed. It's
horrifying what we do with our gift.

Nothing has power over you. Not even other humans. Even if they caged you, took your freedom, and enslaved you - it doesn't matter. They will never
have power over your soul. That is yours and it is connected to the source, to God. We are never alone.

You have a point. I thought it was just because that's what I have always done when I had a bad dream, but I do have to admit, they did not stop
attacking until I started going all Church on them. I was already saying no but they didn't stop. Not until I started namedropping Jesus.

I think the reason they left when they heard you use the name "Jesus Christ" was that you have been too indoctrinated to understand anything they
would attempted to tell you. If they were going to just do an experiment nothing you could do would have stopped them. Basically, they were probably
going to forcefully tell you or get you to understand something and help share that with other human beings.

However, due to your level of indoctrination one of them made the executive decision that you were not worth their time to try and explain things.
They were disgusted due to the likely fact that the modern concept of "Jesus Christ" is somehow heavily false and that upset them.

So basically they saw you as a waste of time and effort and got pissed off so they took it out on you by very forcefully pushing you back onto the
couch to the point where you instantly blacked out. You then woke up remembering the whole ordeal thinking it was your faith in this "Jesus Christ"
figure when it really was the fact you were wasting their time due to your indoctrination.

Well, at least they didn't rough you up too much

They don't seem to have much of an understanding towards human emotions when taking people.

I have not studied philosophy but i am well versed in it. And I do understand that everything exists in our mind. Your senses cannot be trusted,
nothing can actually be trusted, everything is pure perception and nothing more.

You can physically open your pineal gland just through your mind alone or do you have to invoke a deity for that? Sure it opens when you dream or
during other events, but to say you control it. I want to see the you actually do that. Because I highly doubt it.

the problem is, you are seeing the truth still filtered through your own mind, so you are going to see what you want to see in the end. Your judgement
cannot be trusted and thats proven just for calling out a deitys name to save you from something. Your judgement has already been skewed - since you
have preexisting ideas of what is and what isnt.

I think it is better to be sure of nothing than be sure of something. The fault comes when you are sure of something.

You need to chill out man, you're much too aggressive. I wasn't calling anyone an idiot, it's not peoples fault that they have been poisoned.

To answer your question, specifially - several times I've been in a deep trance receiving inspiration from the source, things I won't try to explain,
when I've suddenly felt awkward presences to my side and have SEEN in my head projections of pornography and cravings for food flicker in out out of
my mind - they try to influence you all the time to feed from your energy.

Plus other experiences while sleeping...

You're right, I have no facts - frankly, I don't really believe in facts. They are always flaky and again, follow perspective. One man loves Buddha
and fulfills his destiny, another loves Jesus Christ and does the same - is one of them wrong?

I have a theory called "ALL" and basically, anything you can imagine is true on some level or another.. we are like trees, leaves spawning from the
source - like the universal big bang, infinite particles of existence branching out from the one source.. all IS.

Ok so...you got inspiration, so basically when meditating an idea came to you that these things are here to suck the energy from you. An idea. ...a
guess. And you KNOW it was the "source" eh? something that can shift dimensions or travel through dimensions would never be able to imitate something
like the source right...? ohh because the source must have dominion over them never letting it happen. I duno the more I think the more disgusted I
get because it seems like some of you people are dying to know the answer but give up and take the easy road. IE. god.

To say they are from ...im done, forget it.

Its not that you won, but I cant try to make you comprehend something you dont want to. Its unfortunate you have the blinders on.

Ok so...you got inspiration, so basically when meditating an idea came to you that these things are here to suck the energy from you. An idea. ...a
guess.

To say they are from ...im done, forget it.

Its not that you won, but I cant try to make you comprehend something you dont want to.

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I comprehend what you're saying.. I'm not trying to win. Perhaps you had to be there, in my mind at the time, and experienced what I experienced,
and you might understand why I believe what I do? I didn't say I got an "idea".. it was definitely a pulse of energy projected into my clear-mind
from an external source.

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