Sweet. Thanks. So when I drive should I concentrate on getting wrist extension or is this something that you should worry about only after you are throwing lets say 400'. Just wandering. If you are up for making more quick videos I am always interested in getting the most out of my lower body as I can. I think most people struggle with this so that would be cool.

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okay...looks like you do a full extension. One of the guys around here said that he does that only when he wants to get the maximum out of a disc - meaning to turn it over. Not anhyzer, but I guess power it over. He said that for most shots, the wrist is straight out.

Do you always extend that far?

Also, to extend that far, it would seem to be conscious effort. To extend straight, you just need to pull, the body does the rest. Is it a timing thing to extend that far?

masterbeato wrote:yeah i can do some vids tonight on anything you want explained.

no i never have to think about wrist extension because i have practiced it. once you learn how to do it, it is hard to undo it!

Gotta say, while I have confidence in what I'm doing and my concepts, I much prefer it when somebody throwing over 400' does it. It's hard to say "Listen to me, I know what I'm doing" when I'm not throwing over 400'... so thanks so much for doing the videos.

black udder wrote:Gotta say, while I have confidence in what I'm doing and my concepts, I much prefer it when somebody throwing over 400' does it. It's hard to say "Listen to me, I know what I'm doing" when I'm not throwing over 400'... so thanks so much for doing the videos.

precisely the problem Blake has with teaching people. but fortunately i could see it in his form that he could throw far, even though he does not these days. he can still throw farther than most ams though!

do the right pec drill it helps with wrist extension, so when you are practicing it is important to know where your wrist is, once you get it, you will not be able to undo it. i extend that far yeah.

If my friend's concept is right (that full extension turns discs over a little) it might be why people don't have issues throwing a teebird. With full wrist extension it might help turn the disc up flat vs just straight extension which, when weight forward, I believe leaves your release a little hyzer.

problems turning discs over due to wrist action is not by extending, but is by rolling it over. wrist extension creates a very powerful throw that turns discs over that are not high speed stable but that is due to the power, it is really hard to undo it if it is there. rolling your wrist over will flip anything.

masterbeato wrote:problems turning discs over due to wrist action is not by extending, but is by rolling it over. wrist extension creates a very powerful throw that turns discs over that are not high speed stable but that is due to the power, it is really hard to undo it if it is there. rolling your wrist over will flip anything.

I guess what I mean is that extending the wrist adds the power to bring the disc up to or over it's cruising speed. Thus, for me, a new 163g dx teebird is still super overstable. I can throw it flat, but I have to throw it (i.e. release it) flat. If I throw it hyzer at all, it just holds that hyzer, no matter how slight. Perhaps is that full wrist extension that helps it get to or over the cruising speed necessary to flip it up to flat. Staying on plane and not incorporating wrist roll would prevent it turning over.

I'd add that I'd like to see you do something on hip rotation so folks will better understand what we're always talking about.

My idea of hip pivot/rotation is from watching a baseball player hitting but in a more upright and weight forward posture rather than "weight back" as the baseball swing seems. The hips rotate through before the upper body and arms come through in the baseball swing. Would you say that would be a good analogy?

DiscJay wrote:My idea of hip pivot/rotation is from watching a baseball player hitting but in a more upright and weight forward posture rather than "weight back" as the baseball swing seems. The hips rotate through before the upper body and arms come through in the baseball swing. Would you say that would be a good analogy?

Blake says it's not the same as a baseball swing, but I think that if you can grasp the rotation that you're on the right track. Bottom rotates to power the top rotating. If you imagine swinging a baseball bat without the bottom rotation it's just how some people throw a disc, so you can see how it can add power.

I think if you understand the baseball swing, then you should be able to grasp the disc golf throw easier.