This is something that has been bothering me, but prestige and popularity cloud peoples judgement all the time.

I just struggle to think that Joe Pa could have gone home to his kids, and grand kids knowing what was going on in the background.

It certainly seems like he did though.

I still can't believe that they knew and did nothing. It is just do unbelievably wrong and monstrous. I still believe they just did not want to believe it and convinced themselves that it was not true. They prob bought the story that JD was telling.

Because if they really knew what was going on and still chose to let it continue, they are as evil as Sandusky himself.

My wife's family knows him personally, and they keep saying that there is no way he KNEW and turned a blind eye.

I still can't believe that they knew and did nothing. It is just do unbelievably wrong and monstrous. I still believe they just did not want to believe it and convinced themselves that it was not true. They prob bought the story that JD was telling.

Because if they really knew what was going on and still chose to let it continue, they are as evil as Sandusky himself.My wife's family knows him personally, and they keep saying that there is no way he KNEW and turned a blind eye.

That means absolutely nothing to me, and it shouldn't to anyone else. Almost every single time that someone does something completely fuged up and unexpected those around him are shocked and have a hard time believing that they were capable of such things. It's just a psychological system, you don't want to believe that you could associate with someone so rotten and not realize it.

That means absolutely nothing to me, and it shouldn't to anyone else. Almost every single time that someone does something completely fuged up and unexpected those around him are shocked and have a hard time believing that they were capable of such things. It's just a psychological system, you don't want to believe that you could associate with someone so rotten and not realize it.

But neither you nor I nor anyone else here knows what he really knew. That is my point.

Maybe he did know and chose to cover it up. That us hard for me to fathom. But, it may be true.

However, he could have really believed it was not true and allowed his concern for the program to cloud his judgement. We will never know.

It does not change the outcome of the situation...their inaction led to the horrific abuse if other kids.

I agree that we don't know, but using someone saying "Well I know him and I don't believe that he could blah blah blah" as some sort of evidence for the way that you perceive the events is flawed logic. That was my only point.

the tragic part is the football team and the kids who have NOTHING to do with the insdious crimes, are the ones that lose the most. however, the diabolical coverup by the higher ups, is the only reason it is so severe. the nuke option had to happen here.

The trial marked the first time U.S. prosecutors have charged not just the priests who allegedly committed abuses but also church leaders for failing to stop them. Lynn is the highest-ranking cleric accused of covering up allegations of molestation and rape against priests by transferring them to unwitting parishes.

I agree that we don't know, but using someone saying "Well I know him and I don't believe that he could blah blah blah" as some sort of evidence for the way that you perceive the events is flawed logic. That was my only point.

Not really trying to use it as evidence. Just hits close to home with me.

The trial marked the first time U.S. prosecutors have charged not just the priests who allegedly committed abuses but also church leaders for failing to stop them. Lynn is the highest-ranking cleric accused of covering up allegations of molestation and rape against priests by transferring them to unwitting parishes.

What say you Panthro? Are you ready to shut down the church? Are you ready to dig up the past Popes and piss on their decaying bodies?

What the Catholic Church did was 1,000X worse that the PSU leaders. Senior members of the church not only should have known, but they had actual evidence of abuse and covered this up for decades. Hundreds, if not thousands, of kids were abused, and the Church turned its back on all of them.

The trial marked the first time U.S. prosecutors have charged not just the priests who allegedly committed abuses but also church leaders for failing to stop them. Lynn is the highest-ranking cleric accused of covering up allegations of molestation and rape against priests by transferring them to unwitting parishes.

I had the best wedding proceeding ever. District Justice did it. transcript of the wedding:

"Do you blah blah blah for the rest of your life?"I do"do you blah blah blah for the rest of your life?"I do"Your now husband and wife. You may kiss your bride"

It took longer for my wife to walk down the isle than the person marrying us to do the wedding. Freaking great. Heck she was more nervous about doing it then I was about saying I do. She was out the back before we were done kissing and in her car heading down the road. It was so quick the videographer didn't get it on tape. Much better than the wedding we went to a month later that took an hour outside in freaking July heat.