On a winters day 1969: red faces, high snow, strong cold, cars in snow waves along the highway, in a jeep with Spencer. Say Herrle (nickname of chaplain Schlamber), where are they going? - To Berlin, Eberle. They tramp by a Red Army car to KSG (catholic students club) meeting with Berlin students (Sigrid Wegener later imprisoned) and Paulus Gesellschaft, from Uni Muenster Professor Johann Metz, right beside Karl Rahner. East West dialog about Martin Luther King's thesis of non-violence, civil disobedience, draft dodgers. Like Paulus once said: "we have to leave the wisdom of the world", Jesus lives in me - and to find new forms (e.g. legal opposition in the West, needed for knowledge and wealth, but illegal in the East, as state enemy charged with prison); see Paulusgesellschaft in Hot books in the cold war. Finding new forms determined my whole life.