You both look old like fuck. It's fucking genes, you can't help it. Everyone here will get get to the point in life when he will just look fucking old and used... or they won't, well, either way we're fucked. Just fucking get old with dignity, nothing is more pathetic than two old guys quarelling over who the fuck is older. Just imagine me and Lee Priest arguing who is bigger dwarf, equally ridiculous.

Compare me to guys my own age, actually younger, like Branch Warren, Palumbo, Kovacs... even guys here like chaos and bigmc ... they make me look like a kid. Nobody in real life thinks I'm anywhere near 50 years old.

But what a curse it must be as a man to be born short. Where pretty much everywhere you go people tower over you. You have my sympathy.

Yes he does...and honestly, can;t figure out why he is so bent of out shape on a lot of crap. I recall a while back I actually liked him (not that my opinion means shit) but since all this gh board shit is going on and all the fake-gh shit has unfolded he has turned into this creepy, cranky, overly defensive old man. Fuck...you're in hawaii...better than the windy city here.

Yes he does...and honestly, can;t figure out why he is so bent of out shape on a lot of crap. I recall a while back I actually liked him (not that my opinion means shit) but since all this gh board shit is going on and all the fake-gh shit has unfolded he has turned into this creepy, cranky, overly defensive old man. Fuck...you're in hawaii...better than the windy city here.

What makes you think I'm bent out of shape? I came back to this board to set the record straight. Everyone is blaming gh15 for the bunk kigs set out by Kami and Prosource and people losing their money. The fact is that gh15 never endorsed Kami's kigs but rather he endorsed the kigs from Defiant Labs. Most of us went to Kamikaze because he would cut you a better deal and he was endorsed by bboy. I do not hold bboy responsible for the Kamikaze scam. The kigs he got were good and the kigs gh15 got were good. In fact, the best gh ever according to both of them. But these good kigs were what set up the initial scam. It was Slinpin who first exposed the Kamikaze fakes and stuck to his claim even though he was attacked by gh15. Kami claimed that his supplier screwed him and promised resends to everyone that got fakes, I was one of those that got the resends. Incredibly, Kami went through all the trouble of sending out 100s of kits that also turned out to be bunk. This is when -b- came into the picture. He claimed connections in China and had his own team, his own people, in China, overseeing the operation. Kami now Kublia who claimed that he spilt with Kami as he was just a businessman and didn't know anything about gh but he, Kublai, was actually a bodybuilder and very familiar with the cult. He claim that he was starting his own brand of Kigs called NQK (November Quality Kigs) which would give him more control over his suppliers. He sent out two kit samples to various customers to sample and I was one of them who got these samples and though I don't have any experience with real Pharm grade these were unlike anything that I used before (Chinese generics). I can see why any serious bodybuilder would want to get their hands on them.

With the assurance of -b-, Kublai was back in business and even a member on our board. This set up yet another scam which gh15 exposed due to his almost OCD-like meticulous testing and evaluating and despite -b- assurance and promises none of the customers got legit replacements or their money back. -b- said that Kublai was broke and that he was seeing to it that he pays for his sins. -b- always like to portray himself as some sort of Don Corleon gangster and would often end his veiled threats with "lets just leave it at that" or "I can't say anymore."

But -b-, ever on the look out for his "bros", brought in Prosource and a real legit source of kigtropins. And much to our board's embarrassment and humiliation we got taken to the cleaners again. The damage was once again greatly minimized but gh15's constant testing of each batch, each vial and giving up to the second reports.

So the truth is that it was not gh15 who has been scamming, stealing and cheating us but it was Kamikaze/Kublai/Prosource whom we now believe to all be one in the same under the IP umbrella and with -b- as the front man. And it was actually gh15 who exposed the scammed and kicked off Kami/Kublai/Prosource/-b- and also bboy who served as -b-'s spokesman.

I got distracted by this thread as I take the banning of a mod, in this case Concrete Guy, very seriously. Since I didn't really pay too much attention to his general posts, as he is more of a hardcore bodybuilder and seem to hang out of threads like "What did you inject last?" "Advanced Insulin Protocol" and I knew him mostly from the Mod section where he always seemed on the lookout for "rats" and "spies." When I saw he was posting here I figured I would just ask him a few questions and get his side of the story. Also, I felt it was best to just walk away from the situation. Things didn't work out with CG and gh15 and just let it be at that. No need to start a war or start picking fights with others. I also wanted to just ask him straight out about rumors that were circulating, rumors going back to his days at PM, that he was using various narcotics and pain killers. I figure but just asking and open and sincere question he could put the matter to rest. His response? Called me trash and accused me of being involved in child pornography. His consistent angry and defensive replies to pretty any question or comment got me curious and I decided to go through his post history. As I've shown, using his own words, words that he laughably denies making even though it is easily verifiable, that this fella is a particularly reprehensible and vile individual and never will you find such a two faced, ass kissing, back stabbing, spiteful, repugnant little man.

All points made about -b-, gh15, bboy and Concrete Guy have been made and backed up with evidence and I've been wildly successful in presenting a different and truthful perspective. Of course, you'd never know it due to a small but very vocal minority with a clear agenda utterly devoid of truth. But I know that there is a much bigger and more silent minority that will steer clear of any of -b-'s new sources and minimize that amount of harm he does to others. Those are the ones that I am concerned with and not with the maybe half a dozen or so here that has a clear agenda against gh15 and presumes to speak for everyone. Goggle bigmc or chaos and goggle gh15 and you tell me who has more support.

Now all that's left is just me smacking around all comers here just for sport now until I get bored and then take a break, maybe check in to read about how I was chased off and avoid this thread, which in reality is GetBig's way of begging me to come back just like they beg gh15 to come back to the board. After all you never hear of anyone talk much anymore of Pumpster or PillowTalk but gh15's presence will always be here even though he has long left this board. But you can count on Dr. Chimps, chaos and bigmc asking about me trying to bait me to post more here.

And I will be back, when it suits me, as it keeps me at my fighting weight tooling the major players of what once was rightly termed the Thunder Dome.

So maybe I'll check in tomorrow. Maybe not. Depends how I'm feeling and how busy I am.

As you know we've always been on good terms and I do, and have told you via our PMs, that I felt some Mods were a bit harsh on you. Even if they had good points or were even in the right I did not approved of the way they addressed you publicly in the Mod forum.

You have had a falling out with gh15. I can see that. You're not the first one and certainly won't be the last. I still need to investigate this more as it is still new to me. But remember why you became a Mod and why you supported gh15. Remember all the complimentary things you use to say about him. How you would rave about him always referring him to as "boss".

As far as I can tell, your beef is not with gh15 as such but with a couple of other mods you've been regularly feuding with. gh15 decided to side with them and not with you. This has made you angry and that's understandable. But it does not reflect well on you to one day praise a man lavishly and the next day bash him. It shows that you are just reacting out of emotion and calls into question your credibility.

Just leave it be. Walk away and continue to do your own thing and march to your own drummer. I know you believe in what we are trying to do though you may disagree on some of our methods. I share some of the same feelings. Most of the Mods do. But we take the good with the bad and believe the bad far outweighs the good. If I ever have a falling out with gh15 it will be because of a personal conflict and not anything about what he is trying to do. He is trying, and is, doing good things. Boards like this one and ProMus are just a small very vocal minority. There's a reason he has become so famous. I will alway wish him success because we both believe in the same things regardless of any personality conflicts that may and has arise.

ConcreteGuy, I've recently caught wind of something presented as facts though I presently consider them rumors. We've always talked plainly and openly and don't mince words so I will simply ask you straight out: Do you have any involvement, being it buying, selling, using or anything else, with narcotics?

You can even ask me something like this? LOLI guess your trash also. Shame, I thought you were a nice guy.

Has it crossed your mind that you may be a child porn guy when you leave?

The question you should be asking is how can I be part of a crew that does things like this?

BTW: Our previous posts to each other would leave you exposed. Please notice I'm not the guy to go there. You have no idea how many other mods like myself think ghidiot is a scamer that just wants to move kigs. Your a smart guy. You know exactly whats going on. and making this bullshit stand for all the gh15 kids and him is a poor way to move up the gh15 cock sucking ladder. When this is over you still have to look at your family at the end of the day. There is real people and real money moving with real people getting hurt.You want to hang B-Boy? Dude, he has been pimping IP and Kami from years before any of this shit. With the cost of gear why wouldn't he make a living? But it's OK for the idiot to say he is watching his finger nails grow as he makes a posts to the forum? LOL.

Pellius, your a nice guy. A smart guy. Why would you back such a person. Remember maman, you can't lie to me. Been there, seen that........Sad!

why would GH15 sit on getbig 24/7 and promote kigs if he were not trying to sell them? He even gave kami a second and third chance! because he was getting freebies for himself and bigher and they tried pimping them on here! Bigher pimped them in the steroid section,bigher would post a picture after the first scam and say look how great I look the November kigs are back, and B-Boy would say many great things going on with kami,all 3 of them were getting kickbacks! They got a cutt! Trust me! he said they were double dosed and better then any HGH ever! said they were better then humatrope!

Pellius you said they were good too and they were bunk! you had to send a vial to bigher to test because you could not tell. you also say you back up everything with fact so what proof do you have that euroman was a pedophile? Gh15's word?

You said you liked bunk kigs and were going to buy more! but answer the euroman question since you talked about it and back it up with proof with a article not GH15's word.

You have been arrested for a control delivery and have had every pack seized. even if it is 20 amps they seize your gear! hawaii police are watching you.

After the whole flare up about Euroman on this board I decided to actually order from him and see how the process went with him and test the quality of the gear myself. No one seems to doubt the quality of his gear on this board so I do look forward to trying it. However, just curious as to if you know where I can track my package? It's being shipped registered air mail and it does have a tracking #, but it does not say what courier was used. Since you seem familiar with Euroman, figured I'd ask you.

why would GH15 sit on getbig 24/7 and promote kigs if he were not trying to sell them? He even gave kami a second and third chance! because he was getting freebies for himself and bigher and they tried pimping them on here! Bigher pimped them in the steroid section,bigher would post a picture after the first scam and say look how great I look the November kigs are back, and B-Boy would say many great things going on with kami,all 3 of them were getting kickbacks! They got a cutt! Trust me! he said they were double dosed and better then any HGH ever! said they were better then humatrope!

Pellius you said they were good too and they were bunk! you had to send a vial to bigher to test because you could not tell. you also say you back up everything with fact so what proof do you have that euroman was a pedophile? Gh15's word?

You said you liked bunk kigs and were going to buy more! but answer the euroman question since you talked about it and back it up with proof with a article not GH15's word.

You have been arrested for a control delivery and have had every pack seized. even if it is 20 amps they seize your gear! hawaii police are watching you.

WW, you are one weird fucked up dude. How many times have we gone through this? You keep repeating the same thing over and over again. So now you have the inside skinny on HPD?

You wonder why you don't feel so good? Because you are a drug addict. An admitted drug addict. And I don't mean hormones. You really are a mess.

Yes of course I will drop it. You are right I did post something I should not of. you are right. since it was something people knew about that is the only reason I posted it. totally my bad. I don't want to come across as someone who double crosses somebody. I should not of said anything about the PM. I never do. It is more with my beef with GH15. that guy trys to make me look so bad, when he deals with people who are horrible ! not you. But Gh15 deals with scum and trys to call me scum and akes up lies!

sounds good. you are right. I feel bad. I did make a promise. I never break them and tyou have a valid point. If i did it to you I could do it to someone else. I fucked up. even though you are friends with GH15 should not matter I made a promise. I apologize. I made a shadey move.

I just don't want that kind of rep. you are right! If I put ypour PM on blast who is to say I wouldn't do it to somebody else. I took advantage of you just because you are on good terms with somebody I hate. I personally have NOTHING against you.just GH15 because he talks about me like I am some drug dealing crook who has been in jail. It is all lies. I did have a quick run and you know that.

But it is over! I am out for now! My guy is out. so I am out.I honestly have nothing! not even personal and I need it. My natural Test is low. I don't feel that great.

"I came back to this board to set the record straight. Everyone is blaming gh15 for the bunk kigs set out by Kami and Prosource and people losing their money. The fact is that gh15 never endorsed Kami's kigs but rather he endorsed the kigs from Defiant Labs."

Pellius is a HGH dealer. he right to his customers houses! I got proof. I had my day with doing similar but I quit long ago! Pellius is still in business moving HGH locally on the Island

Yes, me and three of my friends pooled our money to get a bulk discount with Kamikaze. I have been very open and clear about it. That makes me a dealer? I guess you haven't read Rick Collins opinion on that matter?

And yes, you had your day. You were a real drug dealer. You had your day all right. You're a mess. An admitted drug addict. LOL@ you don't feel so great. No kidding.

pellius knows gh 15 is a scammer he just doesnt want to look like a blind idiot for following him

gh 15 is in an enviable position with pellius he takes all the credit for good gear and blames everyone else for bunk

you would have to be a borderline retard not to see through his shit

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Pellius if you really wanted to make a difference and make sure no one gets ripped off then why not just make anonymous orders from several sources and make the results known with lab reports. As it is now you have people coming up with whatever fly by night name claiming they will let you sample their product for GH15's blessing. Doesn't that seem fucked up? You don't think there is an agenda there? It doesn't take a genius to predict this routine. C'mon man...jeezus.

WW, you are one weird fucked up dude. How many times have we gone through this? You keep repeating the same thing over and over again. So now you have the inside skinny on HPD?

You wonder why you don't feel so good? Because you are a drug addict. An admitted drug addict. And I don't mean hormones. You really are a mess.

lots of bodybuilders are addicted to hormones and recs. sorry it is true. all my meds for my back are prescribed.otherwise why would I post them.I was in the wrong to post the PM I will admit that. I keep my word,but you come here acting like a prick for some reason writing novels as answers to peoples posts. You seem to have gotten a huge ego since you left getbig. You are nothing special brother.I actually didn't get a good glipse of you till this thread and you should save your money! I cannot believe you use that much HGH and just got to that level and I had no clue you were that old.