how many flashes could nate grey beat?

all of the flashes are up against nate.... how many would he beat/kill before going down? .. or he'd beat/kill all of them?

all of them are morals off and out of character

imagine a real life encounter.....they are present at the central park NY.. they'll start away from each other (say they entered from other sides) .. they are enemies.. but doesn't know there might be enemy in the park... there bound to be a cross of path sometime around... and if they know about the presence of the enemy, they'll go for kill... flashes entered the park together.

flashes are at the peak of their game.. and nate is before the omega machine incident.

If someone can show me a sufficient reaction feat, I say he can beat any amount of the flashes...

yes.. he's a border line reality warper ... his reaction is quick (able to tag a teleporting nightcrawler) .. but nothing on flash's level ... he have extended precognition though .. means .. he can see a glimps of the future whenever something bad gonna happen to him or someone tries to attack him.

@ssj_god: if flash (whichever one) is trying to kill him then Nate doesn't stand a chance. He'd be dead long before he'd have any chance to react. That's why I said if his shields were up then he could win since he wouldn't die instantly.

@ssj_god: if flash (whichever one) is trying to kill him then Nate doesn't stand a chance. He'd be dead long before he'd have any chance to react. That's why I said if his shields were up then he could win since he wouldn't die instantly.

i'm asking.. how the flashes gonna kill him? .. u said if flashes tries of killing him, he's dead.. u aren't trying to say they'll kill him by just trying right?.. i'm asking the attacks or abilities of how they'll kill him?

He'd need his shields up before anything happens; but he doesn't so there's not really anything I can see him doing in time.

well .. he does have an extended precognition .. he'd know way before flashes tries to attack him.. and know about flashes presence before they does

Which is utterly useless. Rose Wilson's constant 4 sec precog (I.E. she can see everything that happens 4 seconds before it occurs constantly; not just a simple vision) wasn't enough to fight off Static. She just wasn't fast enough. Same thing with Nate. Knowing which way the enemy is going to attack is useless if they attack less than a microsecond later and you can only react at normal speed.

He'd need his shields up before anything happens; but he doesn't so there's not really anything I can see him doing in time.

well .. he does have an extended precognition .. he'd know way before flashes tries to attack him.. and know about flashes presence before they does

Which is utterly useless. Rose Wilson's constant 4 sec precog (I.E. she can see everything that happens 4 seconds before it occurs constantly; not just a simple vision) wasn't enough to fight off Static. She just wasn't fast enough. Same thing with Nate. Knowing which way the enemy is going to attack is useless if they attack less than a microsecond later and you can only react at normal speed.

nate's precognition is way more than that .... say.. if he knows about flash's attack half a minute before it happens.. and conceals his presence completely (half a second is enough for nate to do that).. to whom flash gonna deliver the attack then?

@ssj_god: nates precog will alert him before flashes btw why isnt this a total mismatch, nates on par with dark pheonix, wally west the most powerful flash is at most peak herald

nate is not on par with dark phoenix .. what are you saying? ... his psionic output matches dark phoenix... yes he has the power.. but he can't release that power because he'll burn himself up if he does

well.. from our knowledge... he can beat flash one on one in a straight forward battle if that's what u are thinking.. and yes.. it's even provable in the vine.. despite the difficulty to say anything against flash here.

well.. from our knowledge... he can beat flash one on one in a straight forward battle if that's what u are thinking.. and yes.. it's even provable in the vine.. despite the difficulty to say anything against flash here.

Then why make the thread? He beats them all with ease if he can live without his body here

well.. from our knowledge... he can beat flash one on one in a straight forward battle if that's what u are thinking.. and yes.. it's even provable in the vine.. despite the difficulty to say anything against flash here.

Then why make the thread? He beats them all with ease if he can live without his body here

well.. from our knowledge... he can beat flash one on one in a straight forward battle if that's what u are thinking.. and yes.. it's even provable in the vine.. despite the difficulty to say anything against flash here.

Then why make the thread? He beats them all with ease if he can live without his body here

He'd need his shields up before anything happens; but he doesn't so there's not really anything I can see him doing in time.

well .. he does have an extended precognition .. he'd know way before flashes tries to attack him.. and know about flashes presence before they does

Which is utterly useless. Rose Wilson's constant 4 sec precog (I.E. she can see everything that happens 4 seconds before it occurs constantly; not just a simple vision) wasn't enough to fight off Static. She just wasn't fast enough. Same thing with Nate. Knowing which way the enemy is going to attack is useless if they attack less than a microsecond later and you can only react at normal speed.

nate's precognition is way more than that .... say.. if he knows about flash's attack half a minute before it happens.. and conceals his presence completely (half a second is enough for nate to do that).. to whom flash gonna deliver the attack then?

That's inferior.

You don't know much about the Flash do you? Half a second is eternity to the Flash; there isn't half a second between the start of battle and the attack, and we established he doesn't do anything until the start of battle. Which means it's more like battle starts; less than a microsecond latter Flash's hand is through Nate's brain.

He'd need his shields up before anything happens; but he doesn't so there's not really anything I can see him doing in time.

well .. he does have an extended precognition .. he'd know way before flashes tries to attack him.. and know about flashes presence before they does

Which is utterly useless. Rose Wilson's constant 4 sec precog (I.E. she can see everything that happens 4 seconds before it occurs constantly; not just a simple vision) wasn't enough to fight off Static. She just wasn't fast enough. Same thing with Nate. Knowing which way the enemy is going to attack is useless if they attack less than a microsecond later and you can only react at normal speed.

nate's precognition is way more than that .... say.. if he knows about flash's attack half a minute before it happens.. and conceals his presence completely (half a second is enough for nate to do that).. to whom flash gonna deliver the attack then?

That's inferior.

You don't know much about the Flash do you? Half a second is eternity to the Flash; there isn't half a second between the start of battle and the attack, and we established he doesn't do anything until the start of battle. Which means it's more like battle starts; less than a microsecond latter Flash's hand is through Nate's brain.

what start of battle? .. u think i don't know about the flash? ... i know very well that flash can operate at picosecond.... what you don't get is.. what this precognition means.... as i've told in the op.. they'd attack their opponent whenever they're aware of them present in the park... lets assume flash gonna attack nate the moment he sees him ... nate's precognition lets him see the incoming attack half a minute before (assume the time length) the actual attack comes.. that means he'll be able to see flash half a minute before flash sees him (as flash gonna attack as soon as he sees him) .. so why won't he use that time to conceal himself?

He'd need his shields up before anything happens; but he doesn't so there's not really anything I can see him doing in time.

well .. he does have an extended precognition .. he'd know way before flashes tries to attack him.. and know about flashes presence before they does

Which is utterly useless. Rose Wilson's constant 4 sec precog (I.E. she can see everything that happens 4 seconds before it occurs constantly; not just a simple vision) wasn't enough to fight off Static. She just wasn't fast enough. Same thing with Nate. Knowing which way the enemy is going to attack is useless if they attack less than a microsecond later and you can only react at normal speed.

nate's precognition is way more than that .... say.. if he knows about flash's attack half a minute before it happens.. and conceals his presence completely (half a second is enough for nate to do that).. to whom flash gonna deliver the attack then?

That's inferior.

You don't know much about the Flash do you? Half a second is eternity to the Flash; there isn't half a second between the start of battle and the attack, and we established he doesn't do anything until the start of battle. Which means it's more like battle starts; less than a microsecond latter Flash's hand is through Nate's brain.

spot on (and for wally as soon as the battle begins is the same time Nate gets his brain taken out of his face)... a blood lusted flash is ridiculous, especially if the person he is fighting doesn't have super durability and or super reactions

If Nat e's precognition is like Dr. Manhattan's (can see the future, but can't alter it's course) then he may be only able to kill a few, maybe a dozen or more.

nate can see the future through timeline view, but his precognition isn't future sight... well .. it lets him see the near future.. that's it... and lol.. there aren't infinite amount of flashes here.. only the versions shown in the comics so far

@ssj_god: I should learn to read. Hmmmm I think the only ones with a chance (by feats) are Barry, Wally, and Bart. Actually idk about bart. He was "able to outrun zoom". But no on should be able to with just pure speed, it was probably some of the worst writing I have ever seen.