We support this group (donations), nice to see them popping up here. They've got a bunch of other videos on their site, if you don't mind the rescuers being annoying sometimes like Mztlplx said, it's pretty neat stuff.

/has rescued beagles//has 2 beagle-lab mixes now///you never get used to the howl....

From what Ive heard it has something to do with Beagles being easier to work with, as in they are more likely to trust people and be 'easy going'. ie, labs are taking advantage of them being nice doggies.

im not watching it before i can find out if this is the same video that's been passed around for years about test dogs touching grass for the first time. great video, but my grandma, mom, dad, every aunt, cousin, and each of their acquaintances sent me emails of this video over the last several years. i dont need to relive the anger/awww/dog love experience again.

The Flexecutioner:im not watching it before i can find out if this is the same video that's been passed around for years about test dogs touching grass for the first time. great video, but my grandma, mom, dad, every aunt, cousin, and each of their acquaintances sent me emails of this video over the last several years. i dont need to relive the anger/awww/dog love experience again.

okay, its a new video from the same people. i think the first one i saw was in 2011 or so. im glad theyre doing this but the videos are a little too sugary for my tastes. but damn, beagles are awesome dogs. i had 2 of them when i was a kid, brother and sister. fun as hell to play with.

I had the opportunity to volunteer in a Beagle rescue on July 4th 2010 that freed 120 beagles who were left in a cosmetics testing facility that shut down. They shut off the lights, locked the doors, and left them there. Thankfully a few of the companies caretakers scaled the fences and broke into the buliding to to care for the beagles until a court order released them into the custody of several rescue organizations.

We helped unload about 90 frightened beagles, get them chipped and vaccinated, examined, cleaned up and into temporary kennels. The part that sticks with me was when we set them down in the grassy kennels, they didn't know what the grass was or how to walk on it, they just stood there alternately lifting two paws up out of the grass looking awkward and scared.

I'm going to be getting another dog, but I sure as hell am not going to a rescue.

Tried a few times, but every single rescuer was more invasive than a probation officer. One rejected me because she didn't like the tattoo on my arm. Another rejected me because the dog I bought seven years ago, which I still own, developed cherry eye that had I corrected. And one last one wanted me to submit 3 personal references, 2 work references, 3 vet recommendations, a letter from my landlord, to allow them to inspect my home before and after I get the dog and to write an essay about why I want the dog, why I feel I should have the dog and how I plan on taking care of it.

From what Ive heard it has something to do with Beagles being easier to work with, as in they are more likely to trust people and be 'easy going'. ie, labs are taking advantage of them being nice doggies.

My first thought on reading this was "But labs don't take advantage, they're like the sweetest happiest dogs ever" and then I realized you meant laboratories and I felt kinda silly.

But the mental picture of Labradors trying to take advantage of beagles is pretty amusing.

From what Ive heard it has something to do with Beagles being easier to work with, as in they are more likely to trust people and be 'easy going'. ie, labs are taking advantage of them being nice doggies.

My first thought on reading this was "But labs don't take advantage, they're like the sweetest happiest dogs ever" and then I realized you meant laboratories and I felt kinda silly.

But the mental picture of Labradors trying to take advantage of beagles is pretty amusing.

My current dogs are Beagle-Lab mixes, so someone was taken advantage of....

I rescued a beagle and I HATE it. I always wanted a beagle but regret the decision.Beautiful dog and doesn't howl or bark (that much)

But after 4 years, 2 group training classes and one private training, he's still the most destructive dog I've ever had (and I've had several).

I literally can't leave a ROOM without him destroying something. I mean I can't go to the bathroom or the mailbox. If it isn't tied down, or even if it IS, he'll destroy it. Table legs, wainscoting, shoes, pillows, table corners....

Been to vets, had teeth, mouth, throat examined...... The general consensus was "It's just his personality"

He also has never kissed me once in 4 years. He'll lick my kids, my wife, the neighbor, the woman at the park, but he has never, not one, even accidentally, licked my face

buntz:I rescued a beagle and I HATE it. I always wanted a beagle but regret the decision.Beautiful dog and doesn't howl or bark (that much)

But after 4 years, 2 group training classes and one private training, he's still the most destructive dog I've ever had (and I've had several).

I literally can't leave a ROOM without him destroying something. I mean I can't go to the bathroom or the mailbox. If it isn't tied down, or even if it IS, he'll destroy it. Table legs, wainscoting, shoes, pillows, table corners....

Been to vets, had teeth, mouth, throat examined...... The general consensus was "It's just his personality"

He also has never kissed me once in 4 years. He'll lick my kids, my wife, the neighbor, the woman at the park, but he has never, not one, even accidentally, licked my face

My brother had a beagle for years and whenever you asked him about it, he'd say "he's too much dog." That pretty much sums up every beagle I've ever met. Too much dog.

I also wasn't aware (my own fault, no one elses) that if you open a door, the beagle will take off and NEVER come back. I've heard stories of trained beagles that will stay with you off lease, or on your property. But pretty much, like I said, 4 years in, if he sees the door cracked and INCH, he will make a break for it.

Has gotten out twice and amazingly I was able to get him, once about 3 blocks away by tricking him into thinking I was putting food down, and once maybe 1/2 mile away, in some bushes, at night, in a thunderstorm, and completely my accident (that was within a month of getting him!)

I hate having to take him out 100 times a day on a lease and stand there waiting for him to do since I don't (and can't) have a fenced in yard.

It's sad. I WANT to love him. I just don't. My wife and kids DO, however, which is why he's still here.

I also wasn't aware (my own fault, no one elses) that if you open a door, the beagle will take off and NEVER come back. I've heard stories of trained beagles that will stay with you off lease, or on your property. But pretty much, like I said, 4 years in, if he sees the door cracked and INCH, he will make a break for it.

Has gotten out twice and amazingly I was able to get him, once about 3 blocks away by tricking him into thinking I was putting food down, and once maybe 1/2 mile away, in some bushes, at night, in a thunderstorm, and completely my accident (that was within a month of getting him!)

I hate having to take him out 100 times a day on a lease and stand there waiting for him to do since I don't (and can't) have a fenced in yard.

It's sad. I WANT to love him. I just don't. My wife and kids DO, however, which is why he's still here.

I read or was told years ago that beagles have an incredible olfactory system even for dogs. Once they get outside it's like non-stop internet porn for them. They get hyper-stimulated because literally everything they smell fires off neurons in their brains that makes them happy. It's like doggy meth.

That said, you'll like him by year eight when he starts slowing down. Right now you have a sniffing machine who is being denied his favorite habit - sniffing new things - because he's in your house. He knows how your house smells. But just like a human his sense of smell and hearing will degrade with age and when he's older he's going to know his best bet for survival is sucking up to you. Not anyone else in the house - they are already submissives as far as he's concerned. But when he's old enough he's going to become your best friend. I suspect that's when you'll finally turn the page on loving him, and you'll probably be hit hardest when it's time to put him down. I've been through the same thing. Just give it some time.

Lsherm:Once they get outside it's like non-stop internet porn for them.

Oh absolutely. And that I don't mind. I think it's endearing (a walk around the block takes an hour and a half). But it's for that reason I can't get an invisible fence. I've read it won't stop them. The sense of smell is so strong that they'll shoot through it and mess their heads up (or whatever those invisible fences do) because they will not stop. No matter what.

We have so many deer in our area that he goes berzonkers every time we go out. Not to mention the smorgasbord of deer poop in our backyard (I TRY to not have him eat it.....but it's EVERYWHERE!)

I asked about the "submissive" like, does he not show me affection because he's submissive to me? And the answer is "no, if he saw me as the alpha, he would be EXTRA affectionate to me"

So the bottom line is, he just doesn't like me :)

He's wonderful to me, and everyone else. Very sweet, gentle dog. He just won't kiss me.

buntz:Oh absolutely. And that I don't mind. I think it's endearing (a walk around the block takes an hour and a half). But it's for that reason I can't get an invisible fence. I've read it won't stop them. The sense of smell is so strong that they'll shoot through it and mess their heads up (or whatever those invisible fences do) because they will not stop. No matter what.

Invisible fences are just proximity activated shock collars. Any smart dog will learn he can run through one with one or two shocks at the most. They fire like old camera flashes - it takes time for the capacitor to recharge so it's not a constant shock. Once they figure out it's not continuous, it only takes one or two times through before they realize the system can be beat.

buntz:I asked about the "submissive" like, does he not show me affection because he's submissive to me? And the answer is "no, if he saw me as the alpha, he would be EXTRA affectionate to me"

I guarantee he doesn't consider you lower on the hierarchy chain than the rest of your family. Dogs aren't always extra affectionate to those they consider alphas (challenging authority is part and parcel of not being an alpha) - but if you're considered higher on the chain, he will obey. Follow some of this advice:

The most important tip is establishing control over small things he wants to do. Don't correct him once he's destroyed something, it's too late. Instead, wait for something he wants to do, like eating, and put yourself directly in the way of getting it done. Make yourself the permission granter. You already have kids, so you already know how to do this. Make him a bowl of food and make him wait. Force him to sit still before giving him food. If he wants to go for a walk, get him ready and make him sit at the door before you open it. Even 30 seconds is enough. Before you come back in, make him sit on the porch before you open the door.

Dogs understand permission. Make yourself the wall between what he wants to do and when he can do it. It won't fix him gnawing on things (after all, you aren't there for it) but it will make him understand that he needs to go through you for things he finds important.

I can't watch the video right now but I must say that I never thought that some rescue dogs came from labs. I thought they all came from bad owners and puppy mills. When dogs are rescued from a lab is it a legal thing? Is it because some laws are being broken?

Lsherm:It won't fix him gnawing on things (after all, you aren't there for it) but it will make him understand that he needs to go through you for things he finds important.

Thanks. I'll certainly try anything.

He's pretty well trained and very well behaved OTHER than this.

He doesn't jump on guests, he knows all the commands, sit, stay, down, etc.

Taught him tricks (like "Bang" with the finger and he (sometimes) will play dead). Like I said, he's a good dog, but the destruction just hasn't gotten better.

We crate him and he loves it in there (our old Lab HATED it and peed and pooped EVERY time he was in there). I think it's MY guilt more than anything. But I have to crate him if I want to go to the bathroom. He doesn't mind, but I hate doing it.

buntz:I rescued a beagle and I HATE it. I always wanted a beagle but regret the decision.Beautiful dog and doesn't howl or bark (that much)

But after 4 years, 2 group training classes and one private training, he's still the most destructive dog I've ever had (and I've had several).

I literally can't leave a ROOM without him destroying something. I mean I can't go to the bathroom or the mailbox. If it isn't tied down, or even if it IS, he'll destroy it. Table legs, wainscoting, shoes, pillows, table corners....

Been to vets, had teeth, mouth, throat examined...... The general consensus was "It's just his personality"

He also has never kissed me once in 4 years. He'll lick my kids, my wife, the neighbor, the woman at the park, but he has never, not one, even accidentally, licked my face

KidneyStone:Czechzican: I'm going to be getting another dog, but I sure as hell am not going to a rescue.

Tried a few times, but every single rescuer was more invasive than a probation officer. One rejected me because she didn't like the tattoo on my arm. Another rejected me because the dog I bought seven years ago, which I still own, developed cherry eye that had I corrected. And one last one wanted me to submit 3 personal references, 2 work references, 3 vet recommendations, a letter from my landlord, to allow them to inspect my home before and after I get the dog and to write an essay about why I want the dog, why I feel I should have the dog and how I plan on taking care of it.

Just not worth the effort.

I've witnessed that. So many people involved in rescue and the Humane Society go on insane power trips "for the good of the animals" and actually turn people off to adopting pets. Although this is the first time I've heard about the need to write an essay - that's complete horseshiat.

Try your local government run animal shelter. They're generally happy to let you pay a fee and they don't have to put an animal down.

I just got a cat through a rescue and went through a similar exercise of bullshiat. I'm in the middle of a divorce so I'm living in a nice two bedroom apartment (just me) but I have a lot of shiat, because I've moved out of a four bedroom house. One of the women came over for an "inspection" and told me because my secondary closet looked like this:

two weeks after I moved in - they were concerned I was a hoarder. Meanwhile, the rest of the apartment was spotless. The master bedroom closet was perfectly organized. I almost gave up on the process right then and there and booted her the fark out.

But this was my first (and last) experience going through a rescue organization. I was living in the country before and cats would just show up, and I'm pretty sure my local shelter will let me have a cat without being judged by an alcoholic View addict.

Czechzican:I'm going to be getting another dog, but I sure as hell am not going to a rescue.

Tried a few times, but every single rescuer was more invasive than a probation officer. One rejected me because she didn't like the tattoo on my arm. Another rejected me because the dog I bought seven years ago, which I still own, developed cherry eye that had I corrected. And one last one wanted me to submit 3 personal references, 2 work references, 3 vet recommendations, a letter from my landlord, to allow them to inspect my home before and after I get the dog and to write an essay about why I want the dog, why I feel I should have the dog and how I plan on taking care of it.

Just not worth the effort.

I work in the veterinary industry. I've dealt with a lot of people who participate in these sorts of organizations, and the majority of them are basically the HoA nazi equivalent of pet adoption. In fact, many of them seem to have actual, legitimate mental problems, which you will quickly find out if you dare to have the gall to question any of their inane policies.

It's really sad, actually. They think they're helping the dogs, but they're too insane/reactionary to realize that they are doing more harm than good.

I also wasn't aware (my own fault, no one elses) that if you open a door, the beagle will take off and NEVER come back. I've heard stories of trained beagles that will stay with you off lease, or on your property. But pretty much, like I said, 4 years in, if he sees the door cracked and INCH, he will make a break for it.

Has gotten out twice and amazingly I was able to get him, once about 3 blocks away by tricking him into thinking I was putting food down, and once maybe 1/2 mile away, in some bushes, at night, in a thunderstorm, and completely my accident (that was within a month of getting him!)

I hate having to take him out 100 times a day on a lease and stand there waiting for him to do since I don't (and can't) have a fenced in yard.

It's sad. I WANT to love him. I just don't. My wife and kids DO, however, which is why he's still here.

You've pretty much got my exact dog. He was a mutt, but mostly beagle. He'll slow down eventually. Once mine slowed down, he stopped wrecking things, would come back when called when we let him run free off leash and you could leave him alone and he'd be just fine. Hope your dog and mine's similarities keep up for your sake!

MagSeven:You've pretty much got my exact dog. He was a mutt, but mostly beagle

Thanks! Hope so. He IS a cool dog otherwise. (His name is Mario)

I, Mario, the scourge of Pennsylvania, the sorrow of Pittsburgh, command you. On a mountain of skulls in a castle of pain, I sat on a throne of blood. What was will be, what is will be no more. Now is the season of evil. Find me a puppy that I might live again.

I also wasn't aware (my own fault, no one elses) that if you open a door, the beagle will take off and NEVER come back. I've heard stories of trained beagles that will stay with you off lease, or on your property. But pretty much, like I said, 4 years in, if he sees the door cracked and INCH, he will make a break for it.

Has gotten out twice and amazingly I was able to get him, once about 3 blocks away by tricking him into thinking I was putting food down, and once maybe 1/2 mile away, in some bushes, at night, in a thunderstorm, and completely my accident (that was within a month of getting him!)

I hate having to take him out 100 times a day on a lease and stand there waiting for him to do since I don't (and can't) have a fenced in yard.

It's sad. I WANT to love him. I just don't. My wife and kids DO, however, which is why he's still here.

You've pretty much got my exact dog. He was a mutt, but mostly beagle. He'll slow down eventually. Once mine slowed down, he stopped wrecking things, would come back when called when we let him run free off leash and you could leave him alone and he'd be just fine. Hope your dog and mine's similarities keep up for your sake!

The taking off and running thing is a game to them. As long as you're chasing, they're having fun. If you can get them reasonably convinced that you're done playing and would rather just abandon them them, they'll come back.

But yeah, your best bet is to keep him on a leash. My beagle got pretty good off leash as he aged and I started trusting him in this one area of my neighborhood. Until about a month ago he took off, straight to the highway and across (during rush hour traffic). He walked along the highway on the other side as I tried to follow and wait for a safe opening to cross. After about a quarter of a mile he moseyed back across 6 lanes of traffic like there was no problem. Thankfully cars saw it coming and avoided him. Little shiat will never get off that leash again.

I agree some organizations are too picky on getting animals forever homes. I've been turned down because I was looking for a outdoor only dog (I'm allegoric) but still want to help dogs that otherwise can't be placed because they've never been housebroken or have been outdoor dogs. I own a fenced acre more than enough room for more dogs. But no only place with homes that keep the dogs inside 90% of the time.

The dog I have right now lives only outside and he lives better than most people. He has his own pool. Hell most of my neighbors don't have a pool. He's very happy and would have been put down because he's not housebroken (I rescued him hours before he was murdered by animal control).