Buck Sexton and Glenn discuss what lies ahead for Egypt

by Wilson

Tuesday, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:55 PM EDT

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This morning on radio, TheBlaze TV’s Buck Sexton joined Glenn to explain the latest on the recent uprising in Egypt. Last week Buck was in the Middle East, and during a radio interview with Glenn he warned for what was headed Egypt’s way.

The riots have become more hostile in the last couple of days, and many of the tragedies that occurred just over a year ago are repeating themselves. One unfortunate example of this is a Dutch female journalist being brutally raped by extremists in Tahrir Square. The woman has been hospitalized and in severe condition.

“The history books can now officially say that William Kristol is a moron,” Glenn quipped, referring to Kristol’s horribly inaccurate predictions regarding the Arab Spring.

Glenn, on the other hand, had a clear idea of what this would bring to the region.

“We said this is going to be much, much worse, and it never ‑‑ I remember distinctly saying it never ends with the people who started it. The only revolution that has ever happened is the American Revolution. It always goes from dictator to thugs to worse dictator,” Glenn said. “And that’s about what’s — I think that’s what’s going to happen. Buck?”

“Glenn, one of the most amazing things here is that it really is déjà vu all over again. They have not had a democracy for very long. Already after seeing that street protests don’t necessarily lead to Jeffersonian democracy, they are just coming out and saying we want something better,” Buck responded. “There’s a lot of hard work that goes into creating a civil society and a functioning journalistic democracy. That hard work has not been done. It’s largely fallen on the Muslim Brotherhood to mess this up but it’s not been easy under the circumstances. After what’s happening right now, the Muslim Brotherhood’s like, oh, okay, you’re giving us this ultimatum? Guess what. We’re going with the “or what” phase of this…as in ‘step down or what?'”

Buck continued, “you know, one of the good things about having been there last week on the ground, Glenn, is that I have sources that can update me, you know, instantaneously through either cellphone texts or e‑mail and what they are telling me is that there are people, for example, at the Muslim Brotherhood protest who are training with sticks and numb chucks actually. So they are kind of going with the Ninja motif in order to make sure they’re prepared for street clashes. These are not people that sound like they are about to say, “You know what? You’re right. Okay, military, let’s not call this a coup even though it technically is and let’s just give up power.” This is the Muslim Brotherhood. These are the guys that produced Anwar al‑Awlaki. There are the guys that have foundational ideology.”

Glenn also noted that those are the individuals this administration is supporting. And because of that, the people of Egypt are no longer fans of America.

Back when the Arab Spring first began and the Obama administration started supporting the Muslim Brotherhood, Glenn warned that these were not allies of the United States — more like extremists with suits on.

“The unintended consequences here and the thing that no one’s really looking at or talking about, even if the military is successful and it’s literally an hour by hour thing, think about this,” Buck added.

Unlike Mubarak, Buck noted that the Muslim Brotherhood will not simply sit down. They will not go away. They were being thrown in dungeons and tortured under Mubarak and stuck around long enough to take control.

“They don’t really care what this whole democracy thing is all about,” Buck explained. “It was just a means to an end anyway. So the fact that they may step down or they may not, Glenn, is not going to change and this country is effectively going to become ungovernable. You’re going to have a 90 million person mess and it’s going to be very close to, if not evolving directly into anarchy unless somebody’s able to bring things together here. Just coming out and protesting doesn’t make all the problems go away.”

Glenn believes that the military will take control — but they won’t keep it. There will be new election. Then what? Who will take leadership this time? The last attempt at a democracy in Egypt took their leadership from bad to worse. The odds that this leaves the people of Egypt with more freedom is note something Glenn sees happening down the road.

“I think you’re asking the question that so many Middle East analysts and watchers and people in the media are refusing to ask which is, what does this do? What does this say if the Muslim Brotherhood is forced to step down? Look, the fact is that they were being shown. They were exposed here as being inept, as being sort of wannabe theocrat, a glorified soup kitchen at best. That’s what the Muslim Brotherhood was, with a very nasty ideology,” Buck told Glenn.

Buck explained that there is a more extreme party that has the ability to take control: the Nour Party.

“They are crazier people than the Muslim Brotherhood,” Buck continued. “And by the way, they won substantially in the last parliamentary election. Those people, not the ones in Tahrir Square, not the ones in the media, the ones in the rest of Egypt, the tens of millions who are very religious, are very devout, they are going to say, oh, this whole democracy thing, that’s kind of a joke, isn’t it? Because when somebody wins and then some people don’t like it, they get the military to get them to step down. I’m not saying that’s how I see it but that’s how they are going to see it.”

The reason Glenn can predict a negative outcome in the uprisings in Egypt is the same reason Occupy protests turn much more violent and destructive than TEA Party protests: principles. The TEA Party stands with a set of principles peacefully, while Occupy marches against something.

“Glenn, one of the things which I think you’re getting to here is what is the, sort of the glue that holds Egyptian society together? In this country it’s the Constitution. Over there it’s quite honestly various forms of Islam,” Buck responded.

“Now the far extreme Islamic parties have the opportunity to say the other side are bad actors in this, they won’t play by the rules,” Buck continued. “And that’s why I said to you before, Glenn, nobody knows the way this shapes out. Anybody who has is quite honestly not paying attention to recent history because people were fine the last time they gathered in Tahrir Square. Déjà vu all over again.”

“This is exactly what we predicted, and I can tell you what’s going to happen next — never, ever, ever screw around with people who are willing to die because God tells them to die,” Glenn said. “In the end the extreme hard liner Islamists are the ones that will take power in Egypt and they will do it in Syria as well and they will do it eventually in Turkey, and you are going to see the restoration of a Caliphate and it is bad news for Israel. It is death, death for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people all across the globe when this thing actually shakes down.”

landofaahs

When God warned of Wars and rumors of wars, he not only meant nation will rise against nation but that brother against father and brother etc. In other words, civil war. Perhaps we are entering that time. Keep watch and always pray.

Anonymous

Yeah, that’s worth waiting another two thousand years for.

landofaahs

I will remember you said that and so will God. You are on record even more sure than the NSA. LOL

Anonymous

Yeah, your myths just scare me so bad, I could just pee right now

landofaahs

Turkey is a little different. The Turks are a little more diverse and all sides can get down and dirty mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

Remember to liberals this mess in Egypt is freedom and the Constitution is a dictatorship. Because murdering raping child molestation and slavery is freedom and being in a free country without the threat of being stoned to death is a dictatorship.

http://www.facebook.com/kyle.ely.56 Kyle Ely

Whats it like in your world Sam to just have such hatred for the other half of this nation that doesn’t share your ideology it must be a sad life

greywolfrs

What a completely humorous comment. Left wing dolts, that would be you, create the hatred, then have the nerve to blame it on others because they dislike you. Imagine that.

http://www.facebook.com/kyle.ely.56 Kyle Ely

Oh please you right winged nuts have done enough to have us despise you guys but we don’t well not to the clear extent that you guys have for us

greywolfrs

You are so full of shit. Obamao out-right calls us the enemy and you believe it’s all the other side? Wake up and smell what you are shoveling.

http://www.facebook.com/kyle.ely.56 Kyle Ely

When has he ever called you guys “the enemy”?! And second you call us terrorist sympathizers which pisses me off cause I knew people who died on 9/11 so you can just stick it buddy

greywolfrs

When did he call us the enemy? How about the interview on univision, here is the EXACT quote:
“If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We’re gonna punish our enemies, and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us”

That was before the election and who would the “enemy” be, that’s right Conservatives.

I called no one a terrorist sympathizer, so stop projecting your B S on me. Why don’t you back over to Media Doesn’t Matter and play a game of hide and go fuck yourself.

P.S. I am not your “buddy,” pal or friend, you would do well to remember that.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003964688429 Erik Peterson

Hey Kyle, what do you despise? Free speech, US Constitution, personal responsibility, lower taxes, no corruption, jail time for govt, media and corporate officials that participate in criminal activity, though shall no murder, though shall not steal, are those the type of things you despise?

OH, Ok…..right.

kyle ely

Jerks like you who claim we hate america and call us sheep while letting Beck promote a gold coin scam to you guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

So you’re saying you’re a hypocrite? Gee we already knew you liberals are a bunch of hypocrites. You see ladies and gentlemen look at the face of liberalism. He calls me out for my supposed hate for half of the country but yet admits his hate for the other half.

kyle ely

I never said I hated half the country just jerk-offs like you and Erik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

What the matter poor baby can’t take reality that you’re a hypocrite?

http://www.facebook.com/cary.harper.50 Cary Harper

Actually I can’t tell the difference between the both of you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

There is I am not hiding and acting like I am better than anyone else big difference.

greywolfrs

“I never said I hated half the country just jerk-offs like you and Erik”

So, let me get this straight, you can project that ALL people on the right have called you a terrorist sympathizer and that is perfectly OK, but if anyone lumps you into a catagory, they are wrong. Talk about hypocrisy, yours knows no bounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

Funny how that works don’t it.

Anonymous

Your wife gives great head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

What is it like to be a pompous ass who thinks they are better than everyone else? And no I don’t hate half of this country only the 25% loons like you who loves to live in a bubble and get spoon feed talking points from the White House. Independent my ass you are more like a dependent than independent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

Oh by the way it was your words to me that inspired me to write this have a nice day moron.

Summer R. Newman

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Anonymous

Beck has been wrong about everything. Where oh where is the “caliphate” there, beck, you moron. I thought the Muslim brotherhood was supposed to be like all powerful and stuff, Glenn,how’d that work out?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

It coming moron most other so called Arab springs are leaning that way look at Syria and Egypt might still go the same way but that ok I am not a prophet of Obama your god like you so I cannot predict the future like the great and almighty wizard of stupidity critten. Oh one more thing how are you enjoying unemployment going up?

Anonymous

Yes, we all know how great you are at predicting the future. Just ask President Romney.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXuNPBko3Q Sam Fisher

Wishing something to happen is different than predicting the future but I guess thinking is not your strong suit.

Frances M. Cameron

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greywolfrs

As I told Snowleopard yesterday, this WILL escalate into violence for a few reasons. These people believe violence is the only way to solve their problems, they have been handling things that way for hundreds of years. Morsi will NEVER step down or even try to talk to these people.

It is what it is.

Anonymous

Would you like to give an example of any Government that’s ever given major concessions to thugs in the street ?

Occupy anyone ? You hypocrite.

To correct you, as you need quite often, if you check you’ll see that the pre-uprisings crime rates in Egypt were staggeringly low. Something the most violent Nation on Earth (the US) can only dream about.

greywolfrs

Yeah, I am a hypocrite.

The violence in Egypt was low because Mubarak had harsh penalties for ALL crimes. It was not because they some good people. By the way, my Egyptian friend tells a very different story. Since he has family still living there, that are Christians, I think I believe him long before you.

The ALL-knowing has chimed in to correct me. How stupid of me not to have bowed down to your infinite wisdom.

P.S. I find it funny that you call the citizens of Egypt thugs. So, the people who went against Mubarak must be thugs also. You are full of shit.

Anonymous

You’re not the only one with friends there buddy. I was there during the first uprising, having traveled most of the Country during the previous decade, so don’t think I don’t have vested interests.

I don’t mean to refer to everyone as thugs of course. But plenty of the behaviour has been thuggish. As mentioned it’s the opposition in Tahrir, so maybe it was your pals who raped the Dutch girl ?

greywolfrs

My pals who raped the Dutch girl? LOL, the troll is weak with you. Millions of people protesting Morsi and muslim rule means their behavior is thuggish? It is plain to see that you obviously do not know as much as you claim.

Anonymous

I’m quite sure your friends had nothing to do with that, obviously, just trying to make a point. Some people did though and it wasn’t likely to have been MB in Tahrir was it ? Everything’s black and white to you. All Muslims are child-molesting savages while all Jews and Christians are Saints.

I don’t believe the world is that simple.

What was your reaction to say, the London riots ? I bet you called them thugs ? Peaceful Occupy protests.. thugs again ? So when I see a legitimate political organisation have it’s buildings attacked, trashed, looted, set on fire, and civilian occupants beaten up and murdered – I’m comfortable using the word ‘thugs’.

There is currently I suspect much retribution going on in Middle Egypt and elsewhere against Christians and other minorities. Again murderous thuggery. I’ll condemn it whoever commits it. Will you ?

Maybe you could ask your friends what Egyptians really want ? A year ago they were demonstrating against the Army, who are hero’s again for the Tahrir brigade. And one of the main gripes against Morsi was the fact that remnants of the Mubarak era were still in place – so now they’re jumping up and down hailing one of his old Judges ?

I’m getting more infinitely confused than wise. (there’s something for you to shoot at).

greywolfrs

OK, make assumptions and think you are correct. Again, I forgot I was talking to the infinitely wise and I am just a peon.

Anonymous

In other news, morsi has stepped down.

greywolfrs

Morsi did not step down, the military took him out. Dunce.

http://www.absoluteintensity.com dennis reilly

The Big “O” ,Pelosi and bad ass Chris Matthews will go over there with their tough rhetoric and put a stop to all this madness. Just ask them. Just imagine if Harry Reid and Biden join forces with the above mentioned, the brotherhood will be shaking in their boots

Anonymous

Lest you not forget Hillary!!!

http://www.facebook.com/kyle.ely.56 Kyle Ely

greywolfrs I don’t get my info from media matters and I am well aware your not a friend of mine

greywolfrs

You stated that *I* called you and left wingers terrorist sympathizers, I have NEVER done anything of the sort. You try to project your B S on to others who have done nothing of what you say.

Then do NOT call me be “buddy,” if you are aware of it.

P.S. I notice you chose not to address Obamao calling us the enemy…

http://www.facebook.com/kyle.ely.56 Kyle Ely

I was referring to the right in general with the terrorist thing which as stated before pisses me off and O apologized back in november for those comments sayed he meant opponent

greywolfrs

The right in general? That is a cop out, as I stated before, you can make sweeping generalizations, but it only makes you look ignorant. (not that we needed more proof)
Slip of the TONGUE? So, he said what he REALLY meant and you give him a pass? By the way, that proves that he DID call us the enemy, so you are wrong again, imagine that.
Who *I* voted for? So, who did I vote for, since you seem to think you know? Nevermind, I will tell you who *I* voted for, I voted for Ron Paul in the last two elections. I guess your stupid assumptions are wrong, again. On another note, someday, when you graduate third grade, you will learn that assumption is the mother of ALL fuck-ups. Then again, since you are a left wing dolt, maybe not.
Last, Romney did NOT say that half of America was lazy, that is another lie. He said he was not trying to get their vote, because they would vote for Obamao so their handouts keep coming. He said he was focused on the 53% who were not taking handouts.

Again, you do not get to make up shit up and say it as if it is fact.

This is the problem with people like you, you believe you know something and obviously do not have the first clue about which you speak.

Anonymous

Its probably his mom

http://www.facebook.com/george.reagan.56 George Reagan

I say let’s back off and let them do each other in. No more sending troops over seas. We need to defend America AT THE BORDERS … NOT OVER SEAS. Bring all ambassadors home and kick all but our allies reps out. We don’t need those that want to kill us in the name of alli.

kyle ely

Allah not alli if your are going to give foreign advise at least spell stuff like that right

Mike Nelson

“Allah not alli if your are going to give foreign advise at least spell stuff like that right”

Thank you for the grammar lesson.

kyle ely

You have the wrong email please stop sending me these.

Mike Nelson

email? stop sending?

This is a forum, kid… if you don’t want to get Disqus alerts, change your settings, or just don’t post. It’s pretty clear you don’t want to keep the company you’ve attracted, anyway.

kyle ely

I didn’t send that something weird happened with my computer and when I tried to log back in to disqus it sent that out to all the forums I was on

Anonymous

Obama should show his true colors and go rescue the Muslim brotherhood by helping Morsi kill all opposition, that is his goal and desired wish in this country,(to kill all opposition). Many of us know that Obama is a Muslim Brotherhood enabler, he proved this during the Boston bombings, he couldn’t bring himself to say it was a terrorist act. Obama’s lack of action tells me all I need to know!

Anonymous

Your fucked

http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

so, according to glenn’s analogy, mubarak was a bho.

_________

initially, the revolutionaries thought they were going to form a democracy. remember what happened right after they ousted mubarak and they took to the stage? well, they were pushed aside, never spoke and the mb took over and has been in charge ever since. the good guys should have organized a serious plan before they ‘elected’ new leadership — this is where they went wrong. instead, they just had a list of demands, albeit important ones, but this proves you can’t expect (especially from dictatorships) that government will deliver anything it promises.

Anonymous

It’s kick ass to see the arguments The Great Whore is consuming more AMERICANS everyday Lyin’,Cheatin’ Hurtin’
That’s all we seem to do Get ready to shit your pant’s THERE HERE !!
We are the masses and we are only ruled by a few !
By the way its getting better isn’t it just look at there ??

Anonymous

Is your Medicaid check late again? Sounds like you ran out of halidol.

Anonymous

No your mom stood me up that tongue thing she does would piss off anyone of us JOHN’S she is something that’s some bad ass suction tell her Mr. happy is waiting

Anonymous

I’ll take that as a ‘yes’

Anonymous

Ok thanx I bet you’ll take it I like it when you don’t fight it .

http://www.facebook.com/larrie.veith Larrie Veith

Hate to say I told you so Buck, but when you first reported from Cairo, you played down a predominant role for the military. I disagreed with you then in my comments here. Seems you agree with me now though. Glad to have you on board. If you want to monitor to this situation from there until it plays out I suggest you buy a house, learn Arabic and settle in because you’re going to have a career of it. The military in Egypt is a totally different animal than in any other Arab country. There is no power, political or religious that can check them in Egypt until the present leadership are killed, imprisoned, die of old age or are eased out in favor of generals with a different ideology. They will assert their power at will until that happens. All sides in this know one thing well; brutal force. The military though, like a super power with nukes also knows the efficacy of a certain amount of restraint. In a culture where the winner rules with impunity and the loser dies or only goes to prison if he is lucky, there are a lot of weeds to kill before the tender shoots of democracy can grow! In any case, On one side is political reason and on the other are Islamic dogmas. I don’t give very long odds to reason winning hearts and minds and the character of any democracy there. if one does emerge, will have all of the worst tenets of a tyranny of the majority. All in favor of killing the Christians, say aye. All in favor of killing the Jews, say aye. All in favor of killing the Sufi’s say aye. The ayes have it. Next on the agenda, the Shias… Etc. Etc. to the end of the age!

Anonymous

Last para is priceless… DOOM DOOM ! The booge.. I mean Caliphate is coming to get ya !

Just to make clear there were no MB in Tahrir. No American has ever raped anyone have they ? No American has brutally murdered anyone have they ? Mr Beck, I can supply a link to all the atrocities of US personnel abroad if you like – I’m talking thousands and thousands of heinous crimes. You never run stories on them do ya ?

The MB ? Well, they’re a big organisation spanning many Country’s. And they are different from Country to Country. I’m not sure why the extreme right wing is so against them. They’ve been taking $ bribes, as Mubarak did to keep the peace accord with the piece of land erroneously labelled ‘Israel’, continuing the suffering of his own kin to please Western masters. They are not the Devil, and they don’t want to murder everyone who isn’t one of them.

I think the truth is simply that they have proven to be crap at running the Country. But does that give the angry mob the right to trash the place all over again ?

As for El-Baradei (CIA man).. I was in the great land when Mubarak fell, and no-one I spoke to wanted El-Baradei to have anything to do anything. It must be remembered Egypt is much much more than the contents of Tahrir Square, and for anyone here to suppose the feelings of the Nation as a whole, well, go and have a word with yourself. In fact the Nation spoke already and chose the MB. I’m not convinced that taking to the streets and dishing out 24h ultimatums for the ruling party to resign is the way to go in a democracy. More significantly perhaps than Jan/Feb 2011, this time there is equality in the pro/anti demo’s. That’s what could be dangerous this time.

We must trust the Army to do the right thing, because without them there probably would be a civil war. Egypt has always been a Military Nation. I thought that may have changed after Uprising 1.0, but clearly they still call the shots when they want to.

Since Beck mentions it, let’s not overlook the fact that al‑Awlaki was unconstitutionally murdered by the US Government, as was his 16yr old son four days later. Both US Citizens. No trial. No jury of peers. No legality. Your Constitution is as relevant as bog paper these days, and you’ve all sat back and watched it being pi***d all over. Good ol’ GWB could do no wrong ? Wrong. He started it, and big time.

The obvious drawback first time around in Egypt was lack of leadership amongst the opposition. Despite El-B poking his nose in again, who else is really up to the task of fixing this ?

I’d say better work within the system to affect change, now that there is semblance of a ‘system’. Dust always takes a long time to settle, and while it is – better to pull together, with moderation, with understanding, with humanity. That’s what any devout human would do.

Ma-a Salaama

az

You might be on the wrong site. I think your looking for HELL. COM.

Anonymous

I already live there.

landofaahs

Since I can’t reply to his comment for some reason, reply to his “your wife gives good head” by saying “Yours doesn’t”.

landofaahs

The game is not over retard. Only another round. It’s sad that you cannot understand these basic precepts. You could never work in central intelligence. Be careful when you go home tonight, your mother may come out from underneath the porch and bite you.