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Physically grabbing an released Black Hole to stop it is like throwing a sandwich at Galactus to stop him.

Originally Posted by Len Ikari145

I stand by my belief of Toriyama seeing a certain match online and going "Oh Yeah?!"

Originally Posted by Pendaran

Every time you say the name of some kind of nonsense martial art, an angel gets its wings, and Val Armorr learns the martial art, retroactively founds it, then super karates the angel unconscious with it.

Eh. Thanos probably has some degree of resistance, but Mantis made a big deal that what she does isn't telepathy, so I probably wouldn't spot him bouncing comic Xavier or anything.

I agree that Thanos is more than likely screwed against Xavier and their ilk, but I wouldn't exactly say the Mantis feat should be downplayed because she's an "empath" either.

She just said she couldn't read thoughts. Only emotions. But her offensive stuff is still her putting commands in your brain. Thanos straight up resisted falling asleep to the same command that put a Celestial to bed. Unlike Ego, Thanos was still carrying out conversation, standing upright and making two very strong heroes work at dragging a big metal glove off.

Like I said, I'm confident Xavier could smack him around all the same, I just think it's a decent feat against lower end comic guys.

Not that I know of. However, comic Thanos has overpowered Moondragon easily enough and achieved various other psychic conquests. Such as briefly (yet foolishly) messing with Galactus' brain before getting forced out.

I agree that Thanos is more than likely screwed against Xavier and their ilk, but I wouldn't exactly say the Mantis feat should be downplayed because she's an "empath" either.

She just said she couldn't read thoughts. Only emotions. But her offensive stuff is still her putting commands in your brain. Thanos straight up resisted falling asleep to the same command that put a Celestial to bed. Unlike Ego, Thanos was still carrying out conversation, standing upright and making two very strong heroes work at dragging a big metal glove off.

Like I said, I'm confident Xavier could smack him around all the same, I just think it's a decent feat against lower end comic guys.

I mean, if you want to get technical, Ego didn't have any mental resistance feats either. Mantis is good, but it's hard to tell how good. Because she has to touch someone we can't use the "how many people does she affect" metric.

Like I said, Thanos has more than 0 mental resistance, but where that falls on the scale of comic book psychics is hard to say.

I mean, if you want to get technical, Ego didn't have any mental resistance feats either. Mantis is good, but it's hard to tell how good. Because she has to touch someone we can't use the "how many people does she affect" metric.

Like I said, Thanos has more than 0 mental resistance, but where that falls on the scale of comic book psychics is hard to say.

In the past, you have argued that cosmic level entities in 616 don't particularly need feats of psychic resistance to be given a pass. Not sure why this is so different.

Ego is a being of mostly pure energy that through sheer force of will has created a planet's worth of malleable physical matter to house his consciousness. He implanted images in Quill's brain of his grand plan for the Expansion with such force that not even the idea of all of his friends dying could shake him out of his daze. It took the realization of his mother's murder to do so. He has feats of multitasking dozens of functions at the same time, including said Expansion while doing battle.

I would argue that Mantis knocking him out to the point where he couldn't do anything is pretty significant, whereas Thanos was only turned sluggish. Xavier or J'onn is a bridge too far, but I'm comfortable saying like... Grodd couldn't mess with the guy. Mileage may vary. Like you said, its hard to quantify with our traditional metrics so it may just be opinion.

Would Heaven Ascendant DIO or even end-of-Stardust-Crusaders DIO successfully override the Time Stone?

I want to say Ultimate Being Kars, but, uh... Kars doesn't do well in space.

Yeah because Thanos has to close his hand to use it. Da Warudo while his hand is open from a faster character. just depends on if Dio can get the glove off somehow. He'd be best trying to put a brain bud in.

Not that I know of. However, comic Thanos has overpowered Moondragon easily enough and achieved various other psychic conquests. Such as briefly (yet foolishly) messing with Galactus' brain before getting forced out.

That one doesn't count, he was piggy backing off backing off Baldwoman to do it

So no one in the MCU could challenge him? What about, dare I say it, Black Bolt? If MCU Black Bolt could scream before Thanos reacts, what would happen?

Originally Posted by The Arbiter

Like I said, I'm confident Xavier could smack him around all the same, I just think it's a decent feat against lower end comic guys.

All this talk about Xavier, what about his son? I'd actually like to see the television version of David Haller go up against Thanos. He's got some pretty intense mind and reality powers himself. He may be able to trap Thanos on a plane outside space and time.