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Thursday, December 15, 2005

Thundering ArtworkAsk Letterfly column #5

Ask Letterfly is a service designed to enlighten and educate in regard to the many facets of motorcycle custom paint and decor and is provided to members of the HOG community. These articles are created for Harley-Davidson dealers in search of material to include in their HOG newsletters and are written and provided by the artist Letterfly, known for high quality custom paint, airbrushed murals and motorcycle pinstriping in the Tampa area and throughout the country. This column is a forum to provide answers to the many paint related questions he hears while attending and painting at Bike rallies across the country. Motorcycle aficionados, custom painters or anyone with a paint related question can ask the artist by sending it in an email format to

Is there an easy way to repair the stone chip in my front fender?

Although nothing will restore the perfection of the original finish, many options exist for creating an improvement over having stone chip damage. The first thing I have to ask when I get a request such as this is “what color is the paint where the stone chip is?” Solid colors allow for an acceptable repair compared to the metallic jobs or paints with the pearls and other effects in the topcoats. If bare metal is exposed, the steel will need a coat of primer. Since we are dealing with a minute repair, all the paint should be applied with a small brush. My favorite is Loew Cornell series 5040 ten aught. After cleaning the interior of the chip with a short piece of optic filament cable, carefully prime only the bare metal and not the sides of the crater where the paint is still intact. Next using the genuine Harley-Davidson touch up color, the long tedious process of building up layer after layer of paint to fill the void begins. Dab a little bead in the chip and allow to dry. Then repeat until the color is actually rounded up and over the adjacent paint. When this thick buildup of paint is thoroughly dry, wet sand first with 1000 grit and later with 1500 grit sandpaper wrapped on a small rubber block with plenty of water. Lay parallel strips of masking tape on either side of the chip for the outside edges of the sanding block to ride on and sand only with back and forth movements to “knock down” the excess touch up paint. The masking tape strips act as a shim to efficiently insure accuracy of flattening the top of the mound of touch up paint to create an acceptable result. Frequently stop to clean and dry the entire area to inspect. Prior to sanding the surface flush with the surrounding original finish paint switch to 2000 grit sandpaper. Repeat until you cannot feel the surface irregularity with the back of your fingernail. You are now ready to polish the paint and restore the shine. On a soft polishing towel put a dab of Micro finish compound and rub only the area that is dull from sanding using only back and forth movements. When a sufficient improvement is noticeable it is time to switch to “Hand Rubbing Glaze” (my favorite is made by Presta) to polish or buff to a high shine.

Although upon close inspection a repair such as this is usually slightly noticeable, the integrity of the surface of the paint is restored. If the repair remains unsightly consider a pinstripe design created by a capable artist to become the most prominent feature of that portion of your bike. With a carefully made repair with the proper materials, the integrity and value of your scoot can be restored with a little investment of tender loving care. Happy sanding, if there is such a thing!

Dave "Letterfly" Knoderer is a nationally-known artist who specializes in the many facets of motorcycle custom paint and decor including airbrush murals, pinstripe design, and more. During much of the year, he can be found at his home base near Tampa, Florida, where he is Artist-in-Residence at the largest RV dealership in the world, or in his art studio where he is available to work on your projects. During the rest of the year, he travels to customer locations and HOG events around the country. For more information about the artist known as Letterfly, please visit his web page, www.Letterfly.com. If you have a question that you would like to see answered in a future "Ask Letterfly" column, please e-mail it to Dave.

These Ask Letterfly columns were created for Harley-Davidson dealers and HOG chapter members who need material to include in their HOG newsletters. Editors who would like to enlighten and educate their readership are encouraged to utilize this ongoing service, which is blogged at ask-letterfly.blogspot.com/. The articles are written and provided by the artist Letterfly, known for high quality custom paint, airbrushed murals and motorcycle pinstriping in the Tampa area and throughout the country. This column is a forum to provide answers to the many paint related questions that Dave hears while attending and painting at Bike rallies across the country and which he receives by e-mail.

Motorcycle aficionados, custom painters or anyone with a paint related question can Ask Letterfly by clicking the COMMENTS link below this message or just click here.

HOG Newsletter Editors: If you would like to include this item in your HOG member newsletter, please do. Be sure to mail me a copy of that newsletter. Not only do I enjoy seeing myself in print, I love reading HOG news from all over the country.

Tuesday, November 15, 2005

Thundering ArtworkAsk Letterfly column #4

The environment of a bike rally combines the thunder of a V-twin that causes the adrenaline level to peak with the visual delights of shiny chrome features that reflect the images of the beautiful women that make attending a function such as this, all worthwhile.

A crowd gathered in a circle around a bike prompts further curiosity. Moving in closer you strain to see a figure crouched over a motorcycle with a curious little paintbrush creating a design right in the middle of the chaos. The biker community is graced with much talent in this area. Artists with interesting monikers all have their own equally fascinating specialties and they frequent local and national bike events to further and elevate the motorcycle experience.

Perhaps you are thinking about decorative paintwork to make your bike stand out with it’s own personality. This column is designed for you as a place to learn more and to ask questions about the fascinating genre of custom paint for motorcycles.

How long will my artwork last? Will we constantly have to have it redone because of fading?

In this day and age, custom airbrushed artwork is created with high quality automotive paints and then protected with several coats of urethane clear coat. Due to the high quality of the materials available today and the clear protective finish, you can expect to enjoy your mural for many, many years.

Pinstriping, wet-blended pictorials, lettering and handpainted flourishes are created by hand with a brush using lettering enamel. Since lettering paint is not thinned, as is necessary in order to spray, and has the heavier body needed to be manipulated with a brush and since the brush lays down a thicker coat than the airbrush, hand painted brush work does not have to be clear coated. The shiny enamel finish is thick and lasts for years. A light coat of wax can add to the longevity.

Hey, we can’t have a mural because of the graphic swoops that go across the entire paintable area on this bike, or can we?

Yes. In fact, although the graphic elements are prominent on the bike now, once a mural is created to either cover or interact with the existing paint scheme, the artwork becomes the most prominent element of the exterior of the scoot.

Did you say interact with the graphics on the bike?

Yes, many folks with the designs in the exterior paint want a mural in addition to set their motorcycle apart from the rest so the concept of “Art within Art” has been born. Examples include animals going over and under the stripes, shapes between the stripes can sport patriotic elements and full-fledged murals permit the graphic stripe to remain intact and allow an interesting deviation for the Rolling Art connoisseur.

What is the most important element in comedy?

Sorry…just wanted to see if you were paying attention. (By the way, ask Letterfly…he knows.)

If we decide to have a custom mural created, where will it be done and how long will it take?

Many handpainted jobs, such as you see at the state rallies and other bike events can be completed in part of a day. Custom painted graphics and airbrushed jobs require much longer to complete. Sprayed mural work requires the dismantling of the bike and the paintwork must take place in the sterile environment of a spray booth. Drying time between coats adds to the turnaround and when complete, the pieces are ready to receive the final clear coat and buffed to a perfect finish. All of this takes time and depending on the complexity of the artwork and the studios workload, some of these jobs can take from three weeks to three months.

What if a portion of our mural becomes damaged in an accident, do we have to have the entire mural redone?

In most cases repairs can be made to the original mural without becoming involved in every step of the original procedure. This is usually done at a greatly reduced cost. This also depends on the area that received the damage. Changes can also be done to an existing mural in the same manner. If you decide to adorn your mural with a personalized title, names or any sentimental depiction, it is a simple matter to change the artwork to a more generic form when you are ready to trade or sell your motorcycle.

Alright, you haven’t mentioned anything about prices. Give us the bad news, how much does motorcycle artwork cost?

Sorry to disappoint you but hand-painted custom paintwork isn’t expensive at all. In fact, many custom pinstripe designs cost a little more than several tanks of fuel and much, much less than a set of tires but will bring you continued pleasure for years longer. Custom paint for a set of fenders and a tank is priced pretty much the same across the board whether you order something from the paint shop at the Harley factory or you elect to commission a unique one of a kind painted spectacular from one of many competent motorcycle artists. So do not fear that what you decide on will be priced out of the ordinary. Pricing is influenced by the detail of the design, the physical size and the amount of pieces, what materials will be involved and the amount of preparation needed to get the bike ready to receive the paintwork.

Conclusion:

We hope that this information has been helpful in introducing you to the world of Mural Art. Should you have any questions or would like ideas about creating your own custom mural art, please do not hesitate to send your questions in to AskLetterfly. (By the way, don’t forget to ask him what the most important element in comedy is.)Dave "Letterfly" Knoderer is a nationally-known artist who specializes in the many facets of motorcycle custom paint and decor including airbrush murals, pinstripe design, and more. During much of the year, he can be found at his home base near Tampa, Florida, where he is Artist-in-Residence at the largest RV dealership in the world, or in his art studio where he is available to work on your projects. During the rest of the year, he travels to customer locations and HOG events around the country. For more information about the artist known as Letterfly, please visit his web page, www.Letterfly.com. If you have a question that you would like to see answered in a future "Ask Letterfly" column, please e-mail it to Dave.

These Ask Letterfly columns were created for Harley-Davidson dealers and HOG chapter members who need material to include in their HOG newsletters. Editors who would like to enlighten and educate their readership are encouraged to utilize this ongoing service, which is blogged at ask-letterfly.blogspot.com/. The articles are written and provided by the artist Letterfly, known for high quality custom paint, airbrushed murals and motorcycle pinstriping in the Tampa area and throughout the country. This column is a forum to provide answers to the many paint related questions that Dave hears while attending and painting at Bike rallies across the country and which he receives by e-mail.

Motorcycle aficionados, custom painters or anyone with a paint related question can Ask Letterfly by clicking the COMMENTS link below this message or just click here.

HOG Newsletter Editors: If you would like to include this item in your HOG member newsletter, please do. Be sure to mail me a copy of that newsletter. Not only do I enjoy seeing myself in print, I love reading HOG news from all over the country.

Saturday, October 15, 2005

Thundering ArtworkAsk Letterfly column #3

Sure, the delicate pinline designs, airbrushed depictions of surreal landscapes, tempting seductresses, frightening demons, flames of all kinds, intricate designs, the small cartoon images that hint about the personality of the owner and the lettered messages all add to the motorcycle experience but have you ever wondered why? Why get some personalized custom paint? I often ask such questions while I am painting at a motorcycle rally for one of my biker clients. I want to know about the aspect of my customer that wants to stand out and be noticed. The result of my inquiry has been hundreds of answers of which were entered into a special computer program that sorted them out and arranged them into a logical sequence on this list. For anyone considering custom paint for their bike, please enjoy.

TOP TEN REASONSto get some custom paint on your motorcycle:

10) Passing truckers suddenly display their more feminine side.

9) Friendly waves from four wheelers now involve more than one finger.

8) State Troopers stare at your custom paint and not their radar.

7) Visits to the Harley dealer no longer result in you driving off with the wrong bike.

6) Wal-Mart gives you a percentage from the concessions they sell to the crowd gathered in the parking lot admiring your highly decorated motorcycle.

5) Your children no longer look at you as old fogey but dream of the day when they will inherit your scoot.

4) You hear words from the motorists containing more than four letters.

3) You don’t worry about losing weight for your high school reunion … You just show up with your motorcycle.

2) People actually fight to get behind you in the Granny lane.

... and the number one reason to get some custom paint on your motorcycle ...

1) You might get invited to appear on David Letterman!

Dave "Letterfly" Knoderer is a nationally-known artist who specializes in the many facets of motorcycle custom paint and decor including airbrush murals, pinstripe design, and more. During much of the year, he can be found at his home base near Tampa, Florida, where he is Artist-in-Residence at the largest RV dealership in the world, or in his art studio where he is available to work on your projects. During the rest of the year, he travels to customer locations and HOG events around the country. For more information about the artist known as Letterfly, please visit his web page, www.Letterfly.com. If you have a question that you would like to see answered in a future "Ask Letterfly" column, please e-mail it to Dave.

These Ask Letterfly columns were created for Harley-Davidson dealers and HOG chapter members who need material to include in their HOG newsletters. Editors who would like to enlighten and educate their readership are encouraged to utilize this ongoing service, which is blogged at ask-letterfly.blogspot.com/. The articles are written and provided by the artist Letterfly, known for high quality custom paint, airbrushed murals and motorcycle pinstriping in the Tampa area and throughout the country. This column is a forum to provide answers to the many paint related questions that Dave hears while attending and painting at Bike rallies across the country and which he receives by e-mail.

Motorcycle aficionados, custom painters or anyone with a paint related question can Ask Letterfly by clicking the COMMENTS link below this message or just click here.

HOG Newsletter Editors: If you would like to include this item in your HOG member newsletter, please do. Be sure to mail me a copy of that newsletter. Not only do I enjoy seeing myself in print, I love reading HOG news from all over the country.

Thursday, September 15, 2005

Thundering ArtworkAsk Letterfly column #2

Part of the exciteme nt of the large motorcycle gatherings is seeing the machines gathered en masse. Row upon row are free to inspect and the especially sharp ones have a crowd of appreciators jockeying in for a closer look.

Upon inspection you find intricate details are what draw you in. Fine pinline designs, meticulous pictorial renderings and a flawless finish over the completed artwork clearly qualifies this as a candidate for a championship show bike.

But what about the biker that uses his bike to ride, he doesn’t want to tie up his scoot waiting for the fussy custom paint procedure to finally be complete. He wants decorative paint now. In an effort to provide a forum for you to become familiar with many aspects of the custom paint field in this magazine, the artist Letterfly will provide answers to the questions he receives while attending bike events across the country and you are welcome to submit questions for Letterfly to answer, just send them to AskLetterfly.com

What are the limitations as to how our custom motorcycle artwork can be designed?

Your imagination! Although you will see hundreds of examples in countless motorcycle magazines and the photo albums of biker artists, no two murals are exactly alike. Each one is custom designed and created to the desires and specifications of the bike owner..

What if we really don’t know what we want our paintwork to depict?

You are a member of a very large club! Most bikers who decide to enter into this exciting new world of motorcycle art have little, or no idea at first of what they want their artwork to look like. Artists with experience as professionals with hundreds of murals to their credit, have garnered the expertise to draw out those hidden interests, faded memories, long lasting loves, cherished dreams or whimsical fantasies. Most people are pleasantly surprised to find that the dreams they thought were impossible, come to life right before their eyes.

How will we know what our painted design will look like?

Usually murals are sketched out by the artist and must meet with your approval before any work is started. Minor changes can be made to the mural, (extensive changes may effect pricing) before the process begins.

Can a mural be created from a favorite photograph?

Yes. In fact, most murals are created from pictures that owners carry in their wallet, purse or glove compartment. Many murals are created using a marriage of several photos to depict a specific background combined with other elements, which in turn enhances the mural's main feature. Letterfly uses a reference file of thousands of photos in a myriad of different categories to help compose your custom mural as well as to maintain authenticity and color values. As we said, your imagination is the only limit to a one of a kind personalized mural. Within good taste of course.

If we decide to have custom paint created how do we know that it will be good quality?

If you have been to any area Bike Nights you have probably seen at least one handpainted design. Use an artist that has an established reputation. Then, that question answers itself. If you have not witnessed a mural being created at one of your local Bike Nights, please take a moment to look at the photographs of Letterfly artwork on the website; Letterfly.com In as much as pictures speak for themselves there is no doubt about how the artistic quality a mural adds to the motorcycle experience.

Will our mural have a cookie cutter look to it or will it be handpainted?

Murals that are hand-created for the customer using either a difficult but rewarding pinstriping, wet blended or airbrush technique have a personality that is much different than the perfectly cut and sterile vinyl images that are the domain of the computer.

Dave "Letterfly" Knoderer is a nationally-known artist who specializes in the many facets of motorcycle custom paint and decor including airbrush murals, pinstripe design, and more. During much of the year, he can be found at his home base near Tampa, Florida, where he is Artist-in-Residence at the largest RV dealership in the world, or in his art studio where he is available to work on your projects. During the rest of the year, he travels to customer locations and HOG events around the country. For more information about the artist known as Letterfly, please visit his web page, www.Letterfly.com. If you have a question that you would like to see answered in a future "Ask Letterfly" column, please e-mail it to Dave.

These Ask Letterfly columns were created for Harley-Davidson dealers and HOG chapter members who need material to include in their HOG newsletters. Editors who would like to enlighten and educate their readership are encouraged to utilize this ongoing service, which is blogged at ask-letterfly.blogspot.com/. The articles are written and provided by the artist Letterfly, known for high quality custom paint, airbrushed murals and motorcycle pinstriping in the Tampa area and throughout the country. This column is a forum to provide answers to the many paint related questions that Dave hears while attending and painting at Bike rallies across the country and which he receives by e-mail.

Motorcycle aficionados, custom painters or anyone with a paint related question can Ask Letterfly by clicking the COMMENTS link below this message or just click here.

HOG Newsletter Editors: If you would like to include this item in your HOG member newsletter, please do. Be sure to mail me a copy of that newsletter. Not only do I enjoy seeing myself in print, I love reading HOG news from all over the country.

Monday, August 15, 2005

Thundering ArtworkAsk Letterfly column #1

The first glimpse of a peacefully parked motorcycle prompts curiosity. While wondering about the internal specifics, an assessment of what is visible provides a hint of what to expect when it is time to crank up the engine and pursue the freedom of adventure that awaits. If the motorcycle is right out of the box, the bikes individual personality hasn’t yet developed. Gradually the bike begins to tell a tale. Hints about the psyche of the owner include the clingy stuffed animals that hold on for dear life and the gaudy accessories that scream “Look at me”.

The benchmark of a bike that has reached completion is the fine painted details and finishing touches of a true craftsman.

Metal engraving, fancy leather stitching and various styles of decorative paint are employed when creating the spectacular bikes that stop the crowd. In this article the artist Letterfly will enlighten you in regards to myriad aspects of this progressive genre and provide a venue for answering the many questions he receives. While attending motorcycle gatherings across Florida and the United States as the creator of one-of-a-kind pinline designs, wet-blended pictorials, flames of all kinds and airbrushed murals and special effects. Letterfly is the resident artist at Lazydays, the RV dealership at exit 10 on I-4 and is a seminar leader and airbrush instructor. The seminar “Rolling Art,…Why a Mural?” is available for HOG groups to be entertained as the artist enlightens about the fascinating genre of custom paint.

How much are flames?

Whenever I am asked this question the first thing I must determine is what exactly the customer has in mind. There are umpteen different kinds of flames that I know of and the price is influenced by the magnitude of work that goes into whatever variety of this universal icon the artist does. The simplest flame is created with a pinline to create the classic scallop shape. The solid flame with a blended color scallop, outlined with yet another color, is perhaps the most famous. This style is sprayed rather than applied by hand with a brush. Typically the entire area is covered with masking tape and the flame shapes are hand cut and removed prior to spraying the color. The resulting effect is finished with a pinline on the edge of the flame to not only “clean it up” but to give it some visual punch. The completed pieces are buried in clear coat and buffed to achieve a flawless finish.

Variations on this include, but are not limited to, the transparent color “Ghost” flame and the addition of extra spurs to give the flame a “tribal” look. The actual shape of each individual lick is created by an individual artisan and even though the design is somewhat universal, each artist has his own personal style.

Another popular method of decorating with flames is by using the quickly becoming contemporary “Realistic” flame technique. These licks are airbrushed, complex and quite stunning. Like real fire some edges are crisp and others are soft. Lick shapes overlap and intertwine like what actually occurs in a bonfire. Artistically the realistic flame method is the most challenging. Every stroke requires thought. The artist studies actual photos of a fire burning and discovers that flame shapes occur in layers interacting with each other. To achieve this effect, each lick must be handled delicately so that the underlying flames will show through. “Less is more” is the rule of thumb and soon real fire is replicated with layers of subtle colors providing the stunning, show stopping design.

The manner in which the price is arrived at is calculated combining both the amount of time it will take to complete the project and the cost of the materials needed for the paint job. Obviously a pinline design that is complete in an afternoon will be less expensive than a show bike paint job that will take several weeks to complete.

Hey, does my pinstripe design need to get clear-coated?”

Clear coating adds a protective durable layer of paint to your bike but requires that you dismantle the bike for the spray application to happen. Even though pinstripe designs can be created while the bike is sitting on the sidewalk at a get-together, quality clear coat only takes place in the sterile environment of a spray booth.

On a positive note, although the airbrush lays down a very delicate layer of paint that without protection would wear off and disappear, the pinline design is executed with a brush and the paint is not thinned as if to spray. The brush lays down a thick coat of paint made up of more solids and the result is a durable design without clear coat. Pinline designs last for years without clear coat.

If I have a particular scene or character in mind that I want the artist to replicate on my bike do I need to bring a picture?

To provide an answer to this question let me tell you that although most artists have eagles, wolves and horses memorized, images such as the flag raising at Iwo Jima, Betty Boop, a Huey Helicopter and other specific icons are not usually part of their repertoire. All artists use reference pictures and most carry a library of these images with them to refer to when they receive a challenge. So if you have a favorite image you want on your bike, the answer is yes, the artist will find a reference picture very helpful.

Dave "Letterfly" Knoderer is a nationally-known artist who specializes in the many facets of motorcycle custom paint and decor including airbrush murals, pinstripe design, and more. During much of the year, he can be found at his home base near Tampa, Florida, where he is Artist-in-Residence at the largest RV dealership in the world, or in his art studio where he is available to work on your projects. During the rest of the year, he travels to customer locations and HOG events around the country. For more information about the artist known as Letterfly, please visit his web page, www.Letterfly.com. If you have a question that you would like to see answered in a future "Ask Letterfly" column, please e-mail it to Dave.

These Ask Letterfly columns were created for Harley-Davidson dealers and HOG chapter members who need material to include in their HOG newsletters. Editors who would like to enlighten and educate their readership are encouraged to utilize this ongoing service, which is blogged at ask-letterfly.blogspot.com/. The articles are written and provided by the artist Letterfly, known for high quality custom paint, airbrushed murals and motorcycle pinstriping in the Tampa area and throughout the country. This column is a forum to provide answers to the many paint related questions that Dave hears while attending and painting at Bike rallies across the country and which he receives by e-mail.

Motorcycle aficionados, custom painters or anyone with a paint related question can Ask Letterfly by clicking the COMMENTS link below this message or just click here.

HOG Newsletter Editors: If you would like to include this item in your HOG member newsletter, please do. Be sure to mail me a copy of that newsletter. Not only do I enjoy seeing myself in print, I love reading HOG news from all over the country.

Tuesday, August 02, 2005

Dave "Letterfly" Knoderer is a nationally-known artist who specializes in the many facets of motorcycle custom paint and decor including airbrush murals, pinstripe design, and more. During much of the year, he can be found at his home base near Tampa, Florida, where he is Artist-in-Residence at the largest RV dealership in the world, or in his art studio where he is available to work on your projects. During the rest of the year, he travels to customer locations and HOG events around the country. For more information about the artist known as Letterfly, please visit his web page, www.Letterfly.com. If you have a question that you would like to see answered in a future "Ask Letterfly" column, please send it to Dave using the "Contact" link below this message on this web page.

This web collection includes Ask Letterfly articles that were created for Harley-Davidson dealers and HOG chapter members who need material to include in their HOG newsletters. Editors who would like to enlighten and educate their readership are encouraged to utilize this ongoing service, which is blogged at ask-letterfly.blogspot.com/. The articles are written and provided by the artist Letterfly, known for high quality custom paint, airbrushed murals and motorcycle pinstriping in the Tampa area and throughout the country. This blog is a forum to provide answers to the many paint related questions that Dave hears while attending and painting at Bike rallies across the country and which he receives by e-mail.

Motorcycle aficionados, custom painters or anyone with a paint related question can Ask Letterfly by clicking the COMMENTS link below this message or just click here.

Monday, August 01, 2005

Welcome to Letterfly's Blog!!!

Welcome to my blog.

Here, I will share things that occur to me. It is also a forum in which you may ask questions which I will do my best to answer. Just click the "Comments" link below any of my messages to send me your question.

About Me

The career path of Dave “Letterfly” Knoderer has been as diverse as the many creative offerings produced during four decades to an ever increasing list of satisfied clients. Starting as an apprentice to the sign and design trade as a teenager, his appetite for the unusual and challenging led him to many sensational projects. A skilled painter, he designed large wall graphics and theater sets, themed interior and exterior murals in amusement parks and restaurants, crafted delicate Gold Leaf window treatments, and gilded ornamentation on Antique Fire Engines. When the computer took over the sign game, he established himself in the RV industry as the most prolific airbrush mural artist in the country, producing over two thousand high quality painted works on the exteriors of motor homes that lead to other even more spectacular projects including the decoration of retail environments, residential murals and delicate vehicular and motorcycle pinstriping, portraits, imagery and custom paint of all kinds.

HOG Newsletter Editors: If you see an item here you think your members would enjoy, feel free to put it in your newsletter (give me & www.AskLetterfly.com a byline, of course). Please mail me a copy of that newsletter. I love to read HOG News from all over the country (and I love to see myself in print).