I guess I mean more in fights against other champs. I just played a bot game with him and couldn't kill anyone on my own. The game was quick, as all bot games are, but my items were merc treads, manamune and starting a tri-fource.

I guess I mean more in fights against other champs. I just played a bot game with him and couldn't kill anyone on my own. The game was quick, as all bot games are, but my items were merc treads, manamune and starting a tri-fource.

He can't burst someone down instantly but he is immortal and deals quite a bit of sustained damage. Lategame he offers a half ad carry and a 2nd life for your AD as well (also works with DPS casters like Cass)

I wouldn't say Irelia is nerfed with the new items, I've been playing her quite a bit recently and having very little trouble, usually build Ninja Tabi>Iceborn Fist>Zephyr>Maw>Black Cleaver>random item depending on the game, usually either Warmogs, GA or for the lulz a Statikk Shiv

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I've really been enjoying Singed top recently. He's great if you're looking for a relaxed lane where the enemy top laner can't do much to you (unless they pick teemo or kayle) while you run around farming like a machine and killing them if they screw up. He's pretty solid late game as well unless you get completely massacred in lane.

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How do you build these champs mastery/rune wise? Champs like Olaf and such that are considered "bruisers".

I play most top bruisers, such as irelia, olaf, jax, darius as 14/16/0 masteries(this provides a good mix of tankiness and damage) and usually use flat AD reds, flat Armor yellows, scaling MR blues and Armpen quints.

Edit- My go-to pick for top has always been Teemo. With teemo, top lane truly becomes an island. No one gets in, no one gets out, if they try I know well in advance about it. I go with on hit and go malady, blade of the forgotten king, zerk boots, wits end, shiv and then finish off with whatever is required, usually a GA.

Last edited by Saegno; 2013-01-24 at 11:03 AM.

Originally Posted by Lohe

If you're semi-hardcore or semi-casual what's the other half? To me, they're both the same thing.

They're great later in the game too, you wanna get onto AD carries so the extra MS can be very useful as while they won't have MS quints they'll likely have a Phantom Dancer and you really don't wanna be kited to death.

Edit- My go-to pick for top has always been Teemo. With teemo, top lane truly becomes an island. No one gets in, no one gets out, if they try I know well in advance about it. I go with on hit and go malady, blade of the forgotten king, zerk boots, wits end, shiv and then finish off with whatever is required, usually a GA.

Only time I had a problem with Teemo as Irelia was when I took wrong runes and masteries without Magic Resist.

Except that, I usually wipe him out since he has such low health. Irelia's W and Q combo with a Sheen proc will take off half his health in a second.

On topic: I obviously play Irelia for solo top. Never lost my lane with her. I love her assassin play style and, as I mentioned, when you get Sheen and then Trinity Force harassing becomes just so much easier since you do tons of damage with the W and Q combo. Plus, after the combo, you can usually back away since the enemy will usually be too scared to engage you directly when you have the first strike advantage.
Irelia also does very well getting kills on squishies since she can do a lot of damage if built properly.

Either way, I love her "jumpy" play style and minion farming with Q Really a great champion when you get to know her limits.

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Originally Posted by Grading

You know, I might actually start using MS quints myself.
Sure, AD helps early game, but what's the point of AD later if you can't even reach people?

At least for people without a gap closer (like Darius or Olaf), it makes sense.

There are some champions on which certain runes are better than some other runes. On Darius or Olaf AD runes don't really do all that much but on Irelia they do since her Q scales off AD and she usually builds Trinity and Wit's End which give a lot of attack speed. So every bit of AD scales well with Attack Speed.
Besides, Darius is the most retarded champion ever with his true damage ulti -.-