haha, even if somehow i did 10d for 10 catches i wouldnt be anywhere near as great as any of those people i mentioned...my point was (and is) that style and originality are more important than sheer number of things juggled.

it makes sense, right? certainly, doing 8 clubs, 6 diabolos, 12 balls is something to be proud of. but i dont think that fact alone would establish anyone as "the best".

the sentence i was commenting on was "Vova is gonna take a few world records for club endurance soon im sure, he is by far the greatest club juggler around" So you see, i was pointing out that Vova isnt going to get any endurance records soon becuase the true greatest juggler holds them at a ridiculous level. I'm not saying endurance is better than tricks (like i said, Tony has a better 4 high than Ryo, but Ryo is the better diabolist [in my eyes]) BUT in this argument, where the greatest and world record endurance runs are put side-by-side, my comment was perfectly valid. was it not?

i stand by my statement... how olds vova 17 maybe as old as 19, cant be much more... how old was gatto when he took all the endurance records. Vova is the greatest juggler around going off the fact he won practically everything at last years WJF, including 5 club endurance. Also with his sister they have ALL the passing records for numbers and endurance. But also his 5 club routine appears to me to be far more difficult than gattos routine. The point was one day he will be the best maybe not today but hes still young and still learning.

i dont think it can ever be said who is the best at juggling, be it in a prop or overall. Unless there is someone who can do every trick ever done, and do them best , No one is the singluar best juggler. It all comes down to preference in the end.

The guys a legend. Hes really awesomeBut most people on this forum are also legends Id say nobody could be the best in the world, it depends on what the audiance is in to.But as far as skill goes, hes one of the best along with a few others.

It makes no sense to make such a video, especially with diabolo, everyone has his/her base skills and his/her style. Based upon these 2 thing he or she can learn new tricks to add to that style. Ow and there is also such a thing as intrest in certain tricks or new theories.

i stand by my statement...(1) how olds vova 17 maybe as old as 19, cant be much more... how old was gatto when he took all the endurance records. (2)Vova is the greatest juggler around going off the fact he won practically everything at last years WJF, including 5 club endurance. (3) Also with his sister they have ALL the passing records for numbers and endurance. (4)But also his 5 club routine appears to me to be far more difficult than gattos routine. (5)The point was one day he will be the best maybe not today but hes still young and still learning.

(1) Vova is 17, and Gatto took the records all this year (except 8 clubs, which is 14 years old now, but i dunno if Vova will be doing that soon [but who knows])

(2) Interesting, so now WJF rules the juggling world? Hmmm. So he won the 5 club endurance, it wasnt as long as Gatto's 45 minutes, or Tom's 53 minutes.

(3) 'ALL' being half? They hold 10, 11 and 12, but not 9, 13 or 14.

(4) Could be becuase Gatto performs for people that don't care, Vova's mission at WJF was to impress people that do. I'm sure if Gatto had the motivation or reason too do a purely tech routine he would whup Vova's ass. Gatto is creative aswell. If you prefere 720s then yes Vova will win.

there is no doubt that jason is a badass juggler.....definately one of the best in my opinion, but he seems like a very petty person. If he is so sure he is the greatest, then why does he need to tell it to everyone?

Someone I respect very much once told me: "If you have to tell people your cool, then your not, because if you truly are, then they can tell for themselves." and I think this holds here.

*On a side note though, Im not going to lie....I watched both videos and thought they were hysterical.

If you want to discuss about Jason and Anthony, please go to rec.juggling, there are TONS of posts about their fight, and all... no need to spam this DIABOLO forum with more of that "whos the greatest juggler" crap

I agree, it's such a shame that technical juggling has seen some dark days and I'm glad that diabolo has remained such a positive and respectful area. It's great when diabolists and jugglers get together and trickswap etc. making it really enjoyable and sociable. I don't think too many diabolists have the stigma of always wanting to show that they're the best but always have time to help others and just chill out!

Yeah, diabolists are the coolest, and a pox on anyone who says it's not real juggling!