I'm Chris and I'm a real life friend of Mordred's! We met up a few weeks ago and he mentioned this little project he had going on. I'm a sound designer so I offered my services if he needed anything. He pointed me to PoP asked me to take a look and see if any of your audio files could be improved upon. So I've been working on them behind the scenes up until today when I finished.

Anyway, this probably isn't the right thread to talk about them, just thought I'd introduce myself. If you have any questions, let me know! I have a few of my own.

Welcome cwdain!

You can ask any question to me or MitchyMatt, I'm curious to ear what you changed exactly.

Did you use the internal version we've got? I've worked on sounds too: I've made two categories, FLAC - for sound effects, short stuff, battle sounds..., and I converted some to OGG - for dialogs, rare sounds, sounds that appear in non-intensive phases...

I've also redone the female sounds (grunts, shouts...) and zombie death sounds. I'm also investigating the sounds that were made for the mod 'CWE', that was abandoned and became open.

I'm Chris and I'm a real life friend of Mordred's! We met up a few weeks ago and he mentioned this little project he had going on. I'm a sound designer so I offered my services if he needed anything. He pointed me to PoP asked me to take a look and see if any of your audio files could be improved upon. So I've been working on them behind the scenes up until today when I finished.

Anyway, this probably isn't the right thread to talk about them, just thought I'd introduce myself. If you have any questions, let me know! I have a few of my own.

Welcome cwdain!

You can ask any question to me or MitchyMatt, I'm curious to ear what you changed exactly.

Did you use the internal version we've got? I've worked on sounds too: I've made two categories, FLAC - for sound effects, short stuff, battle sounds..., and I converted some to OGG - for dialogs, rare sounds, sounds that appear in non-intensive phases...

I've also redone the female sounds (grunts, shouts...) and zombie death sounds. I'm also investigating the sounds that were made for the mod 'CWE', that was abandoned and became open.

Cheers!

Hi! So sorry its taken me so long to get back to you, its been an insanely busy few months for me.

I actually thought that most of the sound effects were really really good. There were a few (animal sfx mostly) that weren't really high quality, so I fixed them where I could. It was mostly the dialogue which had lots of background noise, hiss and silences. I went through all the files and cleaned up where possible. I was using the audio files from version V3.7063.

Would you still be interested in getting these files and looking over them?

I'm Chris and I'm a real life friend of Mordred's! We met up a few weeks ago and he mentioned this little project he had going on. I'm a sound designer so I offered my services if he needed anything. He pointed me to PoP asked me to take a look and see if any of your audio files could be improved upon. So I've been working on them behind the scenes up until today when I finished.

Anyway, this probably isn't the right thread to talk about them, just thought I'd introduce myself. If you have any questions, let me know! I have a few of my own.

Welcome cwdain!

You can ask any question to me or MitchyMatt, I'm curious to ear what you changed exactly.

Did you use the internal version we've got? I've worked on sounds too: I've made two categories, FLAC - for sound effects, short stuff, battle sounds..., and I converted some to OGG - for dialogs, rare sounds, sounds that appear in non-intensive phases...

I've also redone the female sounds (grunts, shouts...) and zombie death sounds. I'm also investigating the sounds that were made for the mod 'CWE', that was abandoned and became open.

Cheers!

Yes, post them in the 3.8 thread as a new topic and go over it the best you can plus provide a download link Hi! So sorry its taken me so long to get back to you, its been an insanely busy few months for me.

I actually thought that most of the sound effects were really really good. There were a few (animal sfx mostly) that weren't really high quality, so I fixed them where I could. It was mostly the dialogue which had lots of background noise, hiss and silences. I went through all the files and cleaned up where possible. I was using the audio files from version V3.7063.

Would you still be interested in getting these files and looking over them?

Thanks,

Chris

Yes, if you could post them on a new topic in the 3.8 section and provide a thourough insight to what was changed that be great. Plus any download links are good too

I am back to working on POP again, part-time. I tried to join POP dev team when saxon was still around like back in 2011 but just let him down due busy RL. So, I heard you people are back on track for a new update, thought I would contribute from time to time. I have other stuff going on in parallel; trying to create my own studio, working on Vyrn, university and drawing/design practices. But, I will be able to spare my time for some cool features you might have in your mind and make them priority.

I am originally a designer and a concept artist, also practicing Film Animation. Warband-wise, I am coding this game for 6 years, so I can do stuff like pro AI as you can see in my Vyrn video, dual-wielding or a completely-living dragon with an AI and animations. I have been part of Bear Force for a while, made mods such as ZOMBIEE, Hornburg 2 and Hundred Years War - Remade too. So, I am pretty experienced in game designing and development. Also, I can do skeletal animations, 3D modelling, texture-artisting, GUI design and scening.

I will have to wait for MitchyMatt's approval to send you any part of the source code.

We're almost done replacing/redoing all armors and clothing to better versions (while still keeping/making everything optimized). That's in the hand of Konrad & I (both artists).

The UI was fully redone by me for 3.7. Suggestions/criticism open though.

It seems you have plenty to contribute, what would you like to contribute? For stuff like dual wielding etc. we usually discuss in detail (in our own threads in "PoP 3.8 Development") what we're doing, what we add, what we change, so that everyone agrees, especially MitchyMatt who's the head of the project currently. That's what has allowed the project to stay consistant.

I see lots of things I can do in bucket list. To be honest, since my time is limited; I would like to contribute new features that would be major for the next update. In the level of coolness of creating your order. Do you have any such cool crazy idea that you have been sitting for a while?

I see lots of things I can do in bucket list. To be honest, since my time is limited; I would like to contribute new features that would be major for the next update. In the level of coolness of creating your order. Do you have any such cool crazy idea that you have been sitting for a while?

Well, do you have any cool crazy feature that you have developed that you can work on porting?

One thing I was trying to do was to port that VC feature to have battle size changer natively. Lets you go over 150 without having to find a workaround.

One other thing was the "pendor castle", half developed years ago, it was supposed to become a camp that you could update to a castle and then a town. I tried to implement it, but that introduced so many bugs that I commented out.

Also, the radiant cross outpost, where you were supposed to be able to recruit ashenborn units, but you should ask Mordred about that. He can't find the original scene that was created for that though.

But for 3.8, we're mainly trying to polish things up, and come to a complete release, soonest as possible.

Hm, here is what I have up my in my store for my own project then. This is the progress report of Vyrn I shared to public. What you read in this list, I have done it and you can probably take it. Some of them I would like to keep unique for the project, but most you can have.

I loved the idea of Pendor Castle. I can certainly make what you are talking about. Player Settlement? With guards walking arounds, random raids to your house, siege, RP options...ye?

Radiant Cross ok for me too.

I think I have made over 30-40 new animations for several things. Including sex animations. (Don't ask.) Or, dragon. Might as well come handy. With all the OSP animations I gathered all these years, I think I have something like 400-450 animations in store too.

POP predates even warband, so there are probably several features that didn't make it. It will probably have to be a bit more complicated to implement.But I think 1.168 was made to support some VC features. Meaning I'm pretty sure all the code necessary is in VC source. I checked (and tried to add these to module ini but it doesn't work alone)

Let's wait for MM, and I'll give you the source code. He's american and works almost every day so he's usually there at night for us. You can add me on steam (snouz)

Hi!I am latis, a fan of PoP from China, who started play this epic mod in 2011, the first version I truly played is 3.4, the last glory of KoG before 3.7061, so have deep feeling about this heroic and loyalty order and the buff of them in 3.7061 cheers me up!As a fan of PoP from China, I can tell you guys about many interesting things about PoP, for both its great fan base and shadow done by our ungrateful people in China, it's an interesting story which I want to share you guys, the PoP Chinese community developed in China just like the own lore of PoP:

-royal line died:Development stopped in 2013, after the release of 3.611, to ones angry mainly G version are based on 3.611, so this classic version plagued bad in our country, that's why I am so pleased by the big change in 3.7.-Bad guys raise at this moment:started with PoP G which some of you guys already know it, here is the thread:https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,261657.msg6275055.html#msg6275055It is just half of the story!Let me tell you the truth.

Spoiler:

1.This "sub-mod" has been "developed" in China since about 3.5 release, and I just saw this sub-mod's birth in person while I has no knowlege about copyright for mod, I was only 15 that time!2.This "sub-mod" didnt stopped like this man promissed, on the countary, they just push their "development" faster after that! How impudicity they are! And as a Chinese I can tell you we even know nothing about that!That sub-mod is legal in our Community, what more ridiculous is this is the "best" mod in our community, with highest rank.3.Even SD himself gave a letter to us to censure such ungrateful work, we dont know it because it was blocked by Chinese commnunity! We know it only after the drama to put down G version.4.That author of the thread armstrike even returned after we put G version down in 2015 december, and started a thread to call people to attack/insult PoP and PoP fans in China with the "mourn" of G version, with cheesy words and the distort of the fact, he describe as if they are the true contributers and PoP devs are mean guys to share their work(as if generous guys will allow people to steal their things), that made many of us angry and started to agrument with them even till now, with the argument with them, I started to hone my skills to collect informations and english to find more truth, results in I know a lot about PoP and the whole story of the sub-mod, people gain stronger with conflict right? All in all, the only truth he said was

armstrike wrote:

The official Chinese M&B forum does not support piracy and unauthorized work, they follow the same rules of English M&B forum, just a matter of enforcement and management.

note: -The author of the G versions became the manager of PoP chinese board after his thread in 2013/2, yeah it is very serious matter of management. -What intersting is the G team's favorite faction is sarleon the usurper, their favirite order is KoL they buffed this order huge so that KOG even can not beat them after 10 times upgrade(btw they even added a supreme KoL to be one of the best troops in the PoP world), they even make a Merc army from KOL to be the strongest and player can only hire them after with 70+relation with KoL, both true informations in the game, in that time KOL is the favorite KO among "PoP" fans in China. About sarleon itself G version gave it the best infantry, best anti shock infantry, and very good archer to match ravenstern ranger.-The G team's most hated faction is pendor, suprise? Pendor used to have at least very good nobles to support their force in 3.6, but in G version it is all trash troops with ugly form, the KoG, with steel style, wear a green shoe even till the G version died! -G version brings many thing didnt belong to PoP World, and make all of these favour troops much more stronger than current stuffs in PoP, i dont know it is their poor skill to balance or just they were insult PoP in this way.

With the leading of G version, many hideous sub-mods appears, many even based on PoP G directly

-long dark age:with the management of G team, they almost stole the name of pendor, when people talk about the stuffs in PoP, most of them are talking about PoP G actually, which is annoying and stupid, people ignore the lore of PoP but accept the ridiculous lore of PoP G, don't think Chinese like PoP G, honest man and true mod developers hate this mod, but can do nothing as there is great fan base. When we tried to introduce PoP itself by wikia work, the author of the G version itself(yes I mean it) appears and laugh at us. More ridiculous is PoP G is just the hottest mod in China, it plagued not only PoP but the whole M&B community, moders began to ignore balance, copyright, immersion due to the "success" of G version, true mod developers get less attention, such things insult the honest and hard working man in China badly, at this age, if you stand for PoP, you will have argument with dozens of PoP G fans and knowledge-less people who know nothing about copyright and respect, and no moderators will stand for you in Chinese commnunity, that was a tough time to us, but the golden time to bad guys.

-the prophesy arise to people:the development of 3.7's appears in 2014/5 encouraged people like me who love the true PoP, I checked TW PoP forum for almost everyday since about blog 2 of 3.7, it's a beacon of hope to me, as I can only reply on PoP team itself to save PoP and the whole Chinese M&B community, which I didnt even believe will come true as G version had been too strong for 2 years "development" even its balance is still shit.

-the hero return, the awake of the prophesy :with the final release of 3.7 and 3.8, people get shocked by the true power of PoP dev, the PoP dev just acted above exceptation with the fantastic stuff, truly! The arise of PoP itself not only inspired honest people to love the true PoP, but also saved the whole china M&B community, people began to respect and follow copyright with the leading of honest people in china, of course, with endless dramas and arguments, I was the mainly fighter stand for PoP, argueD with bad guys for dozens times, which enhanced my skill to gather information and have logic thinking, the result, as you see(Hmm I mean you can see some chinese words on steam/moddb, I can tell you all of them speaks good to PoP), honest people won at last, PoP G as well as all its childrens get destroyed finally, the leader of team is no longer the manager to community, it is me now so I know many people's feeling/bugs about PoP/M&B.

That's the whole story which explained why I love PoP so much and have some special feelings about the stuffs in it, even little drama still appears the overall has been much more better.Last, It's my honor to join the forum to test/help devs and know more about your nice jobs! Thanks for you guys to polish such great mod, it's your honest hard work saved our community!

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Thx! I have fininshed this story, most imortant details covered, devs like SD, MM, Madvader experienced the drama themselves, SD himself even sent a letter to us but was hided by moderators in Chinese commnunity until G vrsion was destroyed I just think PoP dev has the right to know this whole thing, and as we (Chinese fans) had already put all of sub-mods done(at least they are not legal anymore), it is not a problem anymore but a intersting story! Btw, PoP is the hottest mod in China as well, as it is so polished and artistical, and for art there is no bound between culture and country.I was even more happy when I saw Modred in Reddit said one of his favorite mod is WWII:China when he is answering the question of fans.Do you know why Chinese love PoP even it is the based on Britain and other western culture?Because we just had samiliar history from 19th to 20th Many Chinese players see the struggle of Chinese people by the struggle of pendorians.

I`ve lurked around the Taleworlds forum for quite some time and posted a few things in the PoP subforum every now and then.I'm thinking about doing a german translation for PoP and that's why snouz recently sent me the link to this forum.

Just wanna leave a quick "Hello everyone" here. If I start the translation, I may have some question regarding the desired style of language, so I'll probably post a few question in the future, since not every sense behind a sentence/dialoge can be translated 1:1.

I`ve lurked around the Taleworlds forum for quite some time and posted a few things in the PoP subforum every now and then.I'm thinking about doing a german translation for PoP and that's why snouz recently sent me the link to this forum.

Just wanna leave a quick "Hello everyone" here. If I start the translation, I may have some question regarding the desired style of language, so I'll probably post a few question in the future, since not every sense behind a sentence/dialoge can be translated 1:1.

Hi, yosuke!Nice to meet you here, I am glad to see that there would be more language suppurt for next release, your coming here is a good start!Here is link for the next version as tbh it is not easy to find it when you just come here：https://1drv.ms/f/s!AvHo74D048fThKI_Ho6H3ecpoZK6Fw

If you want to start a German translation, have you tried looking in the German forums to check if there's one already started? Translating is no easy job, if you can build on the work on somebody else, it's a good start. If there is none, then go ahead and lead the way.

Doesn't matter usually if it's for an older version. If there's one for 3.611 for example, dialogs and stuff are still the same, and you'll only have to add the new stuff (and check items/troops, there have been many changes)

Is there a translation sub-forum on the German part of taleworlds? There's one for french, with instructions and advice.

Sadly the german subforum on taleworlds is pretty much dead. Only a few posts in the last months.I'll search around the net for a few days and see if I can find something, if not, I'll have to start from scratch, although this will probably take a lot of time.Is there an estimate for 3.9? Ideally I finish a translation by the time 3.9 gets released, although from what it seems that will happen quite soon, so it's not really realistic to finish a translation by then.