Ezzy: <anandrulez: Its 1000 Euros . 10 grands is too much for a brilliant chess game !> It's 1000 Euro's for the daily best game, but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that there is a 10.000 Euro brilliancy prize on offer after the tournament finishes.

It is a massive amount of money for a brilliancy ptize, but that's what they've decided to do.

Even 1000 Euro's for a daily best game prize is a lot, but we have seen fighting chess in every game, and the tournament seems to be massive success.

Magnusch: I wonder if we <ever> will see Rybka (or another super program) in a super tournament? I guess the answer is 'no' and the reason has something with money to do. Oh what I hate this material world!

Am I the only one who wants to have a computer program among the humans?

Doktorn: <Am I the only one who wants to have a computer program among the humans?>

Computers are getting so strong these days, at least with an opening book and endgame tablebases, that humans only have a chance to draw. So the most likely think that would happen is people playing into very drawish lines to try to obtain the draw as quick as possible, which IMHO wouldn't be very fun.
An occasional match between a computer and one or several GMs I would be interested in, since it would then be more of an exhibition and the human player(s) wouldn't worry so much about points and getting the draw.

With that said, I don't think you are the only one in the world who would like to see computers "compete" in human tournaments. But I don't think you are that many in the chess community.

Marmot PFL: <Computers are getting so strong these days, at least with an opening book and endgame tablebases, that humans only have a chance to draw.> Botvinnik and Fischer both predicted that back when computers were about 1100 level.

eternaloptimist: Well, GM Christiansen's prediction that Ni Hua would grind down McShane & win ended up being accurate. FINALLY Ni gets a win. Although, only 1/2 of the players in the trnt. have won at least 1 game.

Magnusch: <Doktorn> Yes I know they are stronger than humans today. But still, I want to see it. And <if> some of the humans manage to <win> a game (maybe the only win), don't you think <that game> should be very special and/or brilliant?

Imo the points of the computer should be ignored in the end , so there will be a human who wins anyway.

Maybe turn off the end game database for the computer too?

Come on people - support me! Open your minds! Remember Neo in the Matrix? You have to believe in mankind! Don't give up!!

Magnusch: I see.. you are all pessimists.. You have given up.. That is sad! Well, there is nothing I can say then..

Time to go to bed (I hope I will dream about a computer which will eat up every human who is afraid of it! Every human who tries to run or resign immedately in front of it will be eaten!) Good Luck Everyone!

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