Now any device potentially used to gamble on the internet is illegal. This means if you raid in Florida, and you use a bonus roll, you just broke the law. No, really, it does mean just that. It also means that computers are illegal as well, including cellphones.

Amirya wrote:... because everyone needs a Catagonskin rug.

twinkfist wrote:i feel bad for the Mogu...having to deal with alcoholic bears.

Now any device potentially used to gamble on the internet is illegal. This means if you raid in Florida, and you use a bonus roll, you just broke the law. No, really, it does mean just that. It also means that computers are illegal as well, including cellphones.

Now any device potentially used to gamble on the internet is illegal. This means if you raid in Florida, and you use a bonus roll, you just broke the law. No, really, it does mean just that. It also means that computers are illegal as well, including cellphones.

Simple solution to Florida:

That was awesome

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

Now any device potentially used to gamble on the internet is illegal. This means if you raid in Florida, and you use a bonus roll, you just broke the law. No, really, it does mean just that. It also means that computers are illegal as well, including cellphones.

be interesting to see if it becomes 'OK, well, if you pay <insert value here> in taxes on any earnings gained, you'll be good.' ... which is basically where many states have tried to go with anything computerized that may involve something resembeling a sales transaction.

Now any device potentially used to gamble on the internet is illegal. This means if you raid in Florida, and you use a bonus roll, you just broke the law. No, really, it does mean just that. It also means that computers are illegal as well, including cellphones.

be interesting to see if it becomes 'OK, well, if you pay <insert value here> in taxes on any earnings gained, you'll be good.' ... which is basically where many states have tried to go with anything computerized that may involve something resembeling a sales transaction.

Gotta remember that Florida is one of those few states that bans most "give away" type contests, like the McDonald's ones, or similar, in an effort to protect their vulnerable citizens that can't cleanly punch a chad.

Amirya wrote:... because everyone needs a Catagonskin rug.

twinkfist wrote:i feel bad for the Mogu...having to deal with alcoholic bears.

Now any device potentially used to gamble on the internet is illegal. This means if you raid in Florida, and you use a bonus roll, you just broke the law. No, really, it does mean just that.

No, it really doesn't.

gam·ble (gmbl)v.gam·bled, gam·bling, gam·bles

v.intr.1. a. To bet on an uncertain outcome, as of a contest.b. To play a game of chance for stakes.2. To take a risk in the hope of gaining an advantage or a benefit.3. To engage in reckless or hazardous behavior: You are gambling with your health by continuing to smoke.

v.tr.1. To put up as a stake in gambling; wager.2. To expose to hazard; risk: gambled their lives in a dangerous rescue mission.

n.1. A bet, wager, or other gambling venture.2. An act or undertaking of uncertain outcome; a risk: I took a gamble that stock prices would rise

Using a bonus roll is not gambling - there are no stakes, no bet, no risk.

Now any device potentially used to gamble on the internet is illegal. This means if you raid in Florida, and you use a bonus roll, you just broke the law. No, really, it does mean just that.

No, it really doesn't.

gam·ble (gmbl)v.gam·bled, gam·bling, gam·bles

v.intr.1. a. To bet on an uncertain outcome, as of a contest.b. To play a game of chance for stakes.2. To take a risk in the hope of gaining an advantage or a benefit.3. To engage in reckless or hazardous behavior: You are gambling with your health by continuing to smoke.

v.tr.1. To put up as a stake in gambling; wager.2. To expose to hazard; risk: gambled their lives in a dangerous rescue mission.

n.1. A bet, wager, or other gambling venture.2. An act or undertaking of uncertain outcome; a risk: I took a gamble that stock prices would rise

Using a bonus roll is not gambling - there are no stakes, no bet, no risk.

In normal states, yes...

However, this is Florida, where the McDonald's Monopoly game can be considered gambling.

From the article...

Florida's new, expanded definition of a slot machine includes "any machine or device or system or network of devices" used to play games of chance or skill, which can be activated by not just inserting money, but an "account number, code, or other object or information."

A bonus roll is a game of chance (using an in-game currency) and your computer is a slot machine since it allows you perform that bonus roll. (Especially since Blizz may start selling lesser charms for real currency).

Heck, the bonus roll even has that dice icon with it. That's all that Florida lawmakers need...

Remember, this law outlawed Internet cafes.

Amirya wrote:... because everyone needs a Catagonskin rug.

twinkfist wrote:i feel bad for the Mogu...having to deal with alcoholic bears.

KysenMurrin wrote:Other parts of the article make it clear that a "payout of any value" must be possible for it to count, so I don't think bonus rolls are at risk specifically.

Well, your computer is illegal anyway, since it has the potential to be a slot machine, but isn't epic loot a payout? Especially when lesser charms may be bought for real-world currency soon, the Florida law would have to define a payout as a tangible real-world object, currency, or service, which it probably doesn't.

Considering the IRS is also looking at taxing the sale of virtual goods...

Amirya wrote:... because everyone needs a Catagonskin rug.

twinkfist wrote:i feel bad for the Mogu...having to deal with alcoholic bears.

the attitude of some people on these forums...amusing in a facepalming sort of way

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

realizing that explaining the concept of 'opposite' to a 3 year old is really hard (examples: easy. General conceptual explanation and simple definition: hard)... and wondering how a dictionary defined it.

Funny enough, Myriam-Webster uses a circular definition with 'diametric'. Don't have access to the OED anymore, so not sure what they do.

benebarba wrote:realizing that explaining the concept of 'opposite' to a 3 year old is really hard (examples: easy. General conceptual explanation and simple definition: hard)... and wondering how a dictionary defined it.

Funny enough, Myriam-Webster uses a circular definition with 'diametric'. Don't have access to the OED anymore, so not sure what they do.

benebarba wrote:realizing that explaining the concept of 'opposite' to a 3 year old is really hard (examples: easy. General conceptual explanation and simple definition: hard)... and wondering how a dictionary defined it.

I enjoyed trying to teach my grand nephew how to use a fork and knife properly.

We live in a society where people born on third base constantly try to steal second, yet we expect people born with two strikes against them to hit a homerun on the first pitch.

I gotta see if the Imax across the street from my office is going to get it. Not just is the place not that much more expensive and never full, but I can't think of a better place to watch giant robots punch giant monsters.