Monday, August 31, 2015

Geez...Again with this Crap?

A 29-year-old man killed by Chicago Police early Saturday in the Pilsen neighborhood was shot in the back, an autopsy has found.

The Cook County medical examiner’s office identified him Sunday as Rafael A. Cruz Jr. of the 1900 block of South Jefferson.

Ogden District Cmdr. Frank Valadez and an officer assigned to the district were on patrol near 23rd and Wood about 1:30 a.m. when they saw someone firing shots from one vehicle into another, according to a statement from the department’s News Affairs office.

Valadez and the officer pursued the vehicle in their squad car to the intersection of 19th and Ashland, where the vehicle hit several parked cars, according to police.

They got out of their squad car and moved in to arrest the suspects when the driver “purposefully reversed” the vehicle to hit Valadez and the officer, police said.

He just hit two police officers with his car -a few thousand pounds of blunt object. He might have run them over again if the escape route had a downed officer lying in it. Quite frankly, we don't give a single fuck where the bullet hit him after that, and neither should any other intelligent individual.

For the ignorant Sun Times editors:

II. Department Policy

A. A sworn member is justified in using force likely to cause death or great bodily harm only when he or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary:

1. to prevent death or great bodily harm to the sworn member or to another person, or:

2. to prevent an arrest from being defeated by resistance or escape and the sworn member reasonably believes that the person to be arrested:

a. has committed or has attempted to commit a forcible felony which involves the infliction, threatened infliction, or threatened use of physical force likely to cause death or great bodily harm or;
b. is attempting to escape by use of a deadly weapon or;
c. otherwise indicates that he or she will endanger human life or inflict great bodily harm unless arrested without delay.

The dead asshole seems to have fulfilled sections II-A-1, 2a, 2b, and 2c, thereby justifying his own removal from the shallow end of the gene pool by the officers.

Well hey der, has everyone else recovered from Part II of the Chicago Police Lieutenants test yet? I've gotten my second wind, finished a TRR and will share a few thoughts relative to how McPisspot rigged the least challenging test I've ever taken! I don't mean to say I'll be number one on the list; however, I will say I should have spent more time casting to brook trout on a spring creek and less time preparing for the most dumbed down "Part II" I've ever experienced.

"The dead asshole seems to have fulfilled sections II-A-1, 2a, 2b, and 2c, thereby justifying his own removal from the shallow end of the gene pool by the officers." -- SCC

This is so old. A__shole might loose a dozen shots at police, turn to holler "Yo!" down the stairs, and some clever ofc. quick-peeks and takes that split-second to drop him, and he's "Shot in the back!"

If he was sitting in the vehicle at the time the driver was reversing the vehicle towards the officers, as he obviously was, then OF COURSE he would be shot "in the back". The car was reversing towards the officers, which means his back was generally leading the way towards the officers as the driver put the pedal to the metal.

The weird part would have been if the bullets floated over the car, then dipped and turned around to enter through the windshield and strike him "from the front".

Contrary to popular opinion, OIS do not mimic what you watched on TV while growing up. We do not stand in the middle of the street at High Noon and face our assailants like Marshal Matt Dillon & his Deputy, Festus Hagen. Real OIS are not stationary, unless you were pumping gas like Harris Co TX Deputy Sheriff GoForth this past weekend. The incidents are fluid situations where the officer may encounter a citizen who appears to need help -'such as in Louisiana where a Trooper found a car in a ditch. As the Trooper approached, the motorist fired a shotgun at point blank range. OIS do not stop when the offender turns and runs away. He could still pose a threat to other citizens. Or as a recent case in Zion IL showed the offender running from an officer -'the videotape did not show that the offender was also running towards another officer. But your coverage kept screaming "youth shoot in back by a white cop." Nor did your coverage mention how the weapon was stolen from a "vendor" who had previously stolen the gun! We simply do not stop and say "maybe mañana". We are still obligated to pursue the offender. If you really want to experience some of these scenarios you should participate in a "shoot/don't shoot" training scenario. One of your colleagues did that while observing a suspect with a gun in his waistband and then the "cell phone case" which has a gun butt attached. Or how about a suspicious youth who abruptly pulls out his wallet with a card that reads "I am a deaf/mute" and you quickly determine "foe" and fire "without the kid firing first." We are not obliged "to take the first shot" before we can fire our weapon - but we do have to make split second decisions which could involve a citizen with a physical or mental disability. If mope-rah is going to try and turn this latest OIS into a media trial - please get your facts straight!

He was driving a car in reverse, aiming at the officers. His back was the side towards the officers, and he was moving towards them. The idiots in the press want to leave the impression he was shot while fleeing, but the fact is he was attacking.

As I blog, I'm sure the illustrious figurehead of our "union" is brainstorming with the rest of the elected and appointed FLOP slugs regarding a counterpunch which will be disseminated in the media to allay the misconceptions of our Deadly Force policy.

Ahhhhh, who am I kidding? Doctuh Deano will continue to do as he's told sby his digitally-challenged handler. Say what you will about the dude, but at least Shields was outspoken versus the machine, putting ads on billboards and the El and buses, etc.

To make matters worse, when I was on a transport to Area Central, I heard ASA Canellis from the felony review refused to charge the living perps. Thank the Lord that the Dics Used their power to override the State on at least one of the three. Let's see if the States Atty office will nolle pros the case.

Furthermore, ANYBODY in IL can use deadly force in this situation. Shouldn't the Sintimes idiots know this? Someone teach them how to use google for Gods sake.

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(720 ILCS 5/7-1) (from Ch. 38, par. 7-1) Sec. 7-1. Use of force in defense of person. (a) A person is justified in the use of force against another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or another against such other's imminent use of unlawful force. However, he is justified in the use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or another, or the commission of a forcible felony. (b) In no case shall any act involving the use of force justified under this Section give rise to any claim or liability brought by or on behalf of any person acting within the definition of "aggressor" set forth in Section 7-4 of this Article, or the estate, spouse, or other family member of such a person, against the person or estate of the person using such justified force, unless the use of force involves willful or wanton misconduct. (Source: P.A. 93-832, eff. 7-28-04.)

These idiot socialist brainwashed morons putting this yellow journalism out are useless. No sense of reality and an obvious radical leftist slant to their writing. The public is getting used to seeing through their bullshit and they will lose their little "revolution" soon enough.

Uh -- someone shooting all over the place, smashing into other cars, and trying to run over you creates what might be called a "dynamic situation."

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For the love of God -- put yourself in those officers' shoes. Just two guys, and all they have is pistols against a hurtling steel object twice the size of a furious Cape Buffalo, but they are sworn to stop this kind of thing, at the risk of their own lives. They are IT in those few seconds.

Try to get the perspective. Read your own story, for starters.

"Ogden District Cmdr. Frank Valadez and an officer assigned to the district were on patrol near 23rd and Wood about 1:30 a.m. when they saw someone firing shots from one vehicle into another..."

You want this guy shooting into YOUR car?

Try a headline like "Police stop crazed gunman."

...and then police go home and hug their family "Hi" and pick the kid's trike off the stairs and see what the puppy chewed up today.

You try shifting gears like that. It's not like you're sulking because someone said something irritating at the office.

Don't have to love the coppers if you don't want to, but at least try to show a little respect, a little understanding for those who will come running to help you if you need them.

...which is more than that Harris County, Texas deputy got the other night when he was cold-bloodedly, deliberately "shot in the back" while peacefully putting gas in his squad car. Guy had a wife and two kids.

JUST A CITIZEN SAYS: It's very simple. If you don't want to be bothered by the police, then stop breaking the law. I have never ONCE been bugged my the police. I wonder why? Maybe it's because I live within the rules of society? I work? I follow the rules? Oh wait, that's right... I forgot. The minorities are SPECIAL, they deserve breaks and second chances. STOP: NO THEY DON'T. Period.

Off topic SCC. In 22nd District Saturday night, a man was pounding his wife in front of his home in Mt Greenwood. An off duty P/O came to her aid. Husband suckerpunched the off duty in his eye. Struggle ensued. He was arrested. Off duty has black eye and other minor injuries. Bad guy used racial slurs towards 22nd police that arrived on scene. He was charged accordingly by Area South. Anyway who is the spineless Lt Ryan in 22 on 2nd watch. He said it should be misdemeanor. Granted the off duty has black eye. The offender's last name is Nelligan. His dad was a Captain and uncle a commander in charge of the gym at 35th & Normal. He retired and drove for 19th ward Jerimiah Joyce. Anyway the offender was charged with a felony at 0730 and missed the bus. Then Lt Ryan made sure a special trip was made to bond court the same day so he wouldn't have to stay in 22 overnight. I guess the 19th ward is more important to Lt Ryan than a police officer who came to the aid of a beaten wife. Anyone have info on this Lt.??

OT: Clark County Nevada just passed a .05% sales tax increase. That's a nickel on a hundred dollars. It's called the "More Cops" tax increase. Las Vegas and surrounding cities (Henderson, NLV, etc.) will all be hiring additional police from the sales tax increase. For Vegas it should fund an additional 150-200 officers or about a 6%-7% increase in manpower. Hard to find anyone who doesn't support this move. Except the meth heads of course.

That brings the sales tax to 8.15% from 8.1%. Chicago....still the highest in the country at 10.25%.

There is an entire money-centric industrial complexbuilt around the premise of "Police Violence" while intentionally avoiding even a nodding acknowledgementof how the culture, love and worship of D E A T H, Hatred, Abdicated Responsibility, Willful Ignorance and the use of Self-ImposedCultural/Social Apartheid to facilitate the perpetual but NOT ENTIRELY UNPROFITABLE Grievance Mongering and sense of Entitlement to Something for the Price of Nothing due toa legacy that's waved like a shiny magical talisman to short-circuitany serious discussion in real time about how THESE things have been allowed to set up infection in the black community...

Embracing education, discipline, impulse control and the like whilerejecting grievance mongering, poverty pimping, tragedy pimping andthose who have enriched THEMSELVES ONLY by these means, wouldbe a HUGE step in the right direction.

It might even lead to a seat at the table with the rest of societyinstead of angrily peering through the window because somebodyon the other side has something you covet but don't want to work for...

Cue:"Gibs me dat" and the plethora of "entitlements"designed to "level the playing field" but are actually nothing but a money sucking/wealth stealing deviceaimed squarely at the middle class taxpayers who pay the freight.

Pay no attention to the spokesweasels, activists, coordinators,facilitators, middle-men, money conjurers and others such whoflit around in the shadows snatching any stray bills that waft fromthat high velocity stream of money being diverted from the peopleit actually belongs to.

The "Black Community" is not some monolithic entity and thereare eye-opening differences and divisions.

Hell... All you have to do is listen to how hard "The Communerty"rides Black Policemen at these "major incident" scenes.

The Black panther cowards are now threatening to creep up and kill cops! They are saying this publicly is this not terrorism? And obama goes to Alaska to talk about non-existent "climate change" nothing to say to his people about this threat!

Then you have this great man real sheriff he is pissed off, war is being declared on American police officer open season on police,and he says this is caused directly by Obama starting this what a real speaker a real boss hope Trump takes him on his team in a leadership roll in the white house!

Anonymous said...****OT**** sorry guys. Does anyone know if the Marine Unit will have any openings in the next year or so? Anyone from the unit know if a lot of guys will be retiring?

8/31/2015 07:31:00 AM

If you think you can go to the marine unit without any connections then you are a chump. I remember in 2004 a classmate of mine put his resume together. He is a Navy SEAL. A freaking Navy SEAL. They told him he was not qualified.

Again the media creating a false narrative. If you are reversing a car at an officer in a bright white shirt with a gold star what part of your body would be facing the officer?

The state think its job is to approve the use of force now. Anita combing over these cases to garner votes. Be careful a little bird whispered that Preckwrinkle people in ASA office spying hard for an angle to make Alvarez look like a sell out.

Since it seems WE/OR the majority of us poilice dislike our USELESS GOOD FOR NOTHING, THREE VICE PRESIDENTS AS if we are running the country FLOP. Why don't you do a survey SCC on it perhap we could discredit this so called Union of our and save hundreds of dollars in the process..........

People get all sweaty and bothered at the notion of any "Forceful" response by The Police...

The LAW says we ARE AUTHORIZED to use force to overcome your resistance...

A hard slap...Grab a handful of hair and execute a hardbody slam to the floor, pavement, wall, car fender that will leave you gasping for air...A "clothesline," a shove down the stairs orclosing that ass up in that iron gate when you think you're going to get out of lock-up...

Policing is a mean, nasty and ugly business wherethe majority end user is mean, strong, nasty, brutish and ugly.

Therefore...

Policemen have to be meaner, stronger, nastier, more brutishand uglier but gifted with the understanding that once theoffender/assailant is rendered incapable of being any further threat and the handcuffs are secured with pinky room and double-locked, the Boots and Fists Symphony comes to an end.

P.S.

People Who Slip Out Of Cuffs:Legend had it that Billy The Kid wasable to slip out of cuffs because his wristswere larger in circumference than his hands...

There are people and folks in this modern erawho have the same anatomical oddity.

Take a few extra seconds to be sure.If your prisoner is "squirrelly" you can always zip-tie his thumbs together! ;^)

Dear SCC...this is a little off topic. Sorry if this isn't the right place to post it. I'm not a Police Officer, but I am a regular reader of your blog. It's a place that I can come to and trust what I read, unlike most other media. So thank you to you SCC. A couple years ago a CPD sergeant that I'm friends with let me onto this gem (your blog) when we were talking about the BS politics in Chicago. I read it pretty much daily.

I'm also a concealed carry license holder. I came across this article from a leading expert (and police officer) in conceal carry issues and thought I'd share it here. Thanks for all you do, and please keep doing it!

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An Interview with Massad Ayoob

Massad Ayoob

by Gila Hayes

Law abiding citizens work hard to know the law and operate within its limits. Sometimes, though, when the law is silent on an issue...with that in mind, we engaged internationally recognized firearms and use of force instructor, expert witness on use of force matters and Network Advisory Board member Massad Ayoob in a discussion of verbal warnings within the context of a self-defense incident.

eJournal: Members have asked whether they have any duty to give verbal warnings during use of force in self defense, and how to balance that against any tactical disadvantage suffered by giving away one’s position or other factors like revealing possession of a firearm. It is a difficult question from a legalities viewpoint, because there simply is not statutory law speaking to any such requirement.

Ayoob: I don’t think you are going to find anything in the case law, either, nor in the instructions to the jury. It is going to come under the totality of the circumstances.

Don’t blame me for that buzz phrase–it comes from the courts. The courts judge things within the totality of what the situation was. Even in a non-retreat requirements state, they are going to ask, “Did you keep the ball rolling? Could you have stopped this and choose not to or were too stupid to?”

If it comes out, perhaps, that verbal warnings might have been practical and could have been done in time, it may be an issue. Usually it is not. Usually, once the shooting starts, things have broken so fast that you really can’t find the time to give the guy Hamlet’s soliloquy.

eJournal: Acknowledging that we are not bound by statutory law to give warnings along the lines of, “I’ve got a gun, don’t come any closer,” when you say “it might come up,” in what context would failing to give a warning create problems?

Ayoob: The family of the deceased sues you after you shoot the home invader. We have all seen these families go on TV after a shooting, saying, “My dear Sonny can do no wrong.” “Sonny didn’t have a weapon, they must have planted it on him because police have been planting weapons on Sonny since he was a juvenile,” and “Sonny was just turning his life around before you gunned him down.”

The same people who will say, “Why didn’t you just shoot the gun out of his hand?” or “Why didn’t you shoot him in the leg?” will also say, “Why didn’t you just give him a chance? Why didn’t you warn him?”

The answer, of course, is, “A chance to do what? He was obviously going to kill me, and when that became apparent, no, I didn’t give him another chance to kill me.”

Does this accusation arise during civil litigation?

Ayoob: I think you will see it more in civil than you will in criminal, but it could come up in either one.

eJournal: In any of the cases in which you served as an expert witness, have you had to counter accusations that your client didn’t give the criminal a chance or didn’t warn that he was armed?

Ayoob: Goodness, yes, it came up in 2012, in Tennessee v. Shawn Armstrong. ...

Congratulations lieutenant! How long have you been a sergeant? This is the first Lt test the city has given in eight years and it was probably six years before that one. How many of these Lt. Promotional exams have you taken exactly? I hope you did well, just not as well as me! The guys who thought it was easy, they didn't study hard enough to know their answers were wrong! Please tell me the five licenses you would have checked at the tavern fight, just curious?

Ot-,just an observation and hopefully the truth will be told- all the pale sgt's carrying around two bags of study material. The aa's a simple folder - what gives could it possibly be someone had the inside track. The test to come on the job was harder! My god has it come to that and the results will should it!

This isn't the first or the last time Matt Nelligan has been a guest of the 22nd district lock-up, he has always been a really bad drunk. One time he was in the 22nd district lock-up a couple days screaming all kinds of racial shit.. Daddy took care of it.

If you think you can go to the marine unit without any connections then you are a chump. I remember in 2004 a classmate of mine put his resume together. He is a Navy SEAL. A freaking Navy SEAL. They told him he was not qualified.

8/31/2015 03:05:00 PM

You could come straight from Seal Team 6 and personally shot bin Laden but if you don't have a Chinaman forget about it. A fat fuck with clout will be hand processed through but Chris Kyle would be told he isn't qualified. If he were still alive.

One of those with clout was brought in to the Marine Unit, stayed maybe a year and then made sergeant. It was a miracle. Father came from a unit and dad retired with over 6,000 hours on the books. That is three years of sergeant pay. Now son is going in dad's footsteps.

Well hey der, has everyone else recovered from Part II of the Chicago Police Lieutenants test yet? I've gotten my second wind, finished a TRR and will share a few thoughts relative to how McPisspot rigged the least challenging test I've ever taken! I don't mean to say I'll be number one on the list; however, I will say I should have spent more time casting to brook trout on a spring creek and less time preparing for the most dumbed down "Part II" I've ever experienced.

Maybe they dumbed it down for you...since it seems you have taken several Part II's. Retard.

8/31/2015 10:47:00 AM---------------------------------------------------------------------------Many citizens are not only behind you, they are frustrated with the LACK of justice coming down on these criminals AND the lack of support for "the cop in the car" by both state AND Federal attorney generals.

With the police being nullified in their jobs by Washington and their lack of pursuing justice on many of these people, do you really think citizens are apathetic or not watching what is happening?

Citizens have been going out buying out gun stores for the last 6 years because they figure the cops "aren't going to get there in time". CCW should be allowed without all the paperwork and added revenue to the state. You pay for your 2nd Amendment Right in this state. WHY? Politicians should then have to pay for their 24/7 guard details.

This country has been put into a state of fear by idiots who should NOT be leaders and the end result is that many people see that law enforcement has turned more into a "revenue generation squad" for most municipalities that have budget shortfalls rather than crime-fighting forces focused on going after real criminals.

Enforcing seat belt laws or baby car seats to collect revenues or setting up red-light cameras to create a new "revenue stream" is not what government leaders should be focused on.

So give the public some credit. We see what's going on and we don't like it any more than you do.

As for criminals, at least in Illinois, we should bring back the death sentence and add more punishments to anyone here illegally. Pass Kate's Law as a start but add a couple more laws (AND ENFORCE THEM) when it comes to ANY illegal doing a crime with a gun. Forget jail time- cut off the whole family from and and all government benefits.

You all better register and vote this time. Trump is right - get all these losers out of office.

If you think you can go to the marine unit without any connections then you are a chump. I remember in 2004 a classmate of mine put his resume together. He is a Navy SEAL. A freaking Navy SEAL. They told him he was not qualified.

8/31/2015 03:05:00 PM

You could come straight from Seal Team 6 and personally shot bin Laden but if you don't have a Chinaman forget about it. A fat fuck with clout will be hand processed through but Chris Kyle would be told he isn't qualified. If he were still alive.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is EXACTLY what is wrong with Chicago and why CPD is a joke. Qualifications mean nothing - clout means everything.

One guy goes through fuckin' Seal Team training (most of you wouldn't last a week- make that a day for some of you) but another's uncle is the Ward Committeeman, so he gets the job. Yeah...that's fair -- IN BIZARRO WORLD.

How can the public respect that type of selection process?

MORE IMPORTANTLY from a liability perspective, how many of these "selections" are actually putting the public in jeopardy because the best are not being selected? Hell, the best aren't even being looked at. There is a liability created by putting in second-rate people in a critical job.

If you think you can go to the marine unit without any connections then you are a chump. I remember in 2004 a classmate of mine put his resume together. He is a Navy SEAL. A freaking Navy SEAL. They told him he was not qualified.

8/31/2015 03:05:00 PM

I will say it again, this department does not currently employee any current or former navy seals. If someone on this job told you they were a navy seal, they lied to you. Stolen valor!

If you think you can go to the marine unit without any connections then you are a chump. I remember in 2004 a classmate of mine put his resume together. He is a Navy SEAL. A freaking Navy SEAL. They told him he was not qualified.

8/31/2015 03:05:00 PM

I will say it again, this department does not currently employee any current or former navy seals. If someone on this job told you they were a navy seal, they lied to you. Stolen valor!

Like now the puke douchebag that executed the officer filling up with gas. 1 shot him in the back and now in the Bizzaro World twist the lamestream media is addressing the magazine that held 14 rounds as I am sure that was a part of the problem

As I blog, I'm sure the illustrious figurehead of our "union" is brainstorming with the rest of the elected and appointed FLOP slugs regarding a counterpunch which will be disseminated in the media to allay the misconceptions of our Deadly Force policy.

Ahhhhh, who am I kidding? Doctuh Deano will continue to do as he's told sby his digitally-challenged handler. Say what you will about the dude, but at least Shields was outspoken versus the machine, putting ads on billboards and the El and buses, etc.

What say you, Prez Mute?

8/31/2015 06:11:00 AM

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The silence of the FOP Lodge 7 is as deafening as the silence of Obama regarding police being killed in this country.

How sad that we elected these people to represent us at the FOP Lodge 7

"... Please tell me the five licenses you would have checked at the tavern fight, just curious?...."

because memorizing license types, inane gvrs post shooting nonsense (notify ged thru cpic---seriously???)---is what being a Lt is all about----nothing to do with making decisions---and looking out for the welfare of your troops while actually serving the citizens

although the thinking is regurgitating the inane minutiae earns extra points--- and in that case kudos to all who get that bump in points----am hopeful there is an equal consideration for those who kept it simple enough to get the job done- and showed the ability to lead and get out of the way

Well hey der, has everyone else recovered from Part II of the Chicago Police Lieutenants test yet? I've gotten my second wind, finished a TRR and will share a few thoughts relative to how McPisspot rigged the least challenging test I've ever taken! I don't mean to say I'll be number one on the list; however, I will say I should have spent more time casting to brook trout on a spring creek and less time preparing for the most dumbed down "Part II" I've ever experienced.

Rigged in what way? News flash - the Clouted only needed to pass part 1. Part 2 means nothing to those already chosen "Merit" clouted. Part 1 is always "dumbed down" so most will pass. This is first time I saw part 1 have an actual score - instead of a "pass" score. Problem is they don't tell you the minimum passing score BEFORE the test is given. Clouted folks can get a zero on part 2 - and still be merit. Also. Why not dumb it down - they certainly have dumbed down the ranks - Lt's do nothing now - Capt's even less.

Anonymous Anonymous said...As I blog, I'm sure the illustrious figurehead of our "union" is brainstorming with the rest of the elected and appointed FLOP slugs regarding a counterpunch which will be disseminated in the media to allay the misconceptions of our Deadly Force policy.

Ahhhhh, who am I kidding? Doctuh Deano will continue to do as he's told sby his digitally-challenged handler. Say what you will about the dude, but at least Shields was outspoken versus the machine, putting ads on billboards and the El and buses, etc.

What say you, Prez Mute?

8/31/2015 06:11:00 AM

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The silence of the FOP Lodge 7 is as deafening as the silence of Obama regarding police being killed in this country.

How sad that we elected these people to represent us at the FOP Lodge 7

9/01/2015 07:02:00 AM

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Remember that Chicago FOP President Markie Mark Donahue and his State counter part Ted Street endorsed Obama. Remember that Billy Dougherty was quoted in the newspaper as saying Obamacare was a good option for retirees.