Of course hardware. Please don't say that Mobius (i was thinking about something about four times cheaper). The accents on mb-33 are made using note velocity, and the slides by playing new note while holding the previous. Some extra features like playing the sequence backwards, and doing in-pattern loops while playing, or position shifting are welcome.

It depends on the way it deals with those slides (probably it don't use them at all when sequencing external gear). For example mb33 does slide when the new note is played while holding the earlier. Some other tb-303 clones know when to slide, by getting a midi controller message (value above some value is slide on). Thanks for reply!

bandreject wrote:It depends on the way it deals with those slides (probably it don't use them at all when sequencing external gear). For example mb33 does slide when the new note is played while holding the earlier. Some other tb-303 clones know when to slide, by getting a midi controller message (value above some value is slide on). Thanks for reply!

And maybe some manufacturers/hobbyists do kits for self assembly? The sequencer can have one track, no controls automation, and midi input only for synchronization, 16 steps is enough, and of course it should have possibility to make the slides, and accents (using two volume values). The best "extra" options would be possibility to make loops inside a pattern (for example playing from step 3 to step 9), and playing patterns backwards/pingpong with possibility to change loop points while playing (like some analog sequencers could)!

But I don't want a sequencer for doing the "big-sequencing-thing", I need a sequencer that could integrate with the synthesizer for lliveact/improvisation. Remember that I can still record the output of this sequencer to something like yamaha's qy sequencers (and this is probably the biggest power of my concept). Imagine programing some simple arpeggio, and then evolve it live using the loop point changes, backward playing, and stuff, all realtime, and recording it to some other sequencer for further usage in the final arrangement.

yeah but bear in mind that step sequencers are generally monophonic so they will only play one note at a time per step, per track so if you want a slide you will need two overlapping tracks which can be quite unmanageable live. With a linear sequencer you can set your loop length, quantize if you want, slave it to clock, and then just bang in the pattern.

Yest it is true, but for analog cv sequencers. Midi doesn't have such limitations. Midi says only "start to play a note with some pitch and volume", or "stop to play a note with some pitch" (this is identical with "play a note with some pitch and volume 0"). So it isn't midi that cares about the polyphony, but the instrument.

bandreject wrote:Yest it is true, but for analog cv sequencers. Midi doesn't have such limitations. Midi says only "start to play a note with some pitch and volume", or "stop to play a note with some pitch" (this is identical with "play a note with some pitch and volume 0"). So it isn't midi that cares about the polyphony, but the instrument.

your missing my point, to get the MAM to do slides you need to send it two notes at the same time i.e note A stays on while note B starts. Doing this on a step sequencer that only does one note per step (like the EF-303 someone mentioned) is impossible since you cannot send more than one note per step. So unless you want something that will not allow you to play slides, I would look beyond step sequencers

bandreject wrote:Yest it is true, but for analog cv sequencers. Midi doesn't have such limitations. Midi says only "start to play a note with some pitch and volume", or "stop to play a note with some pitch" (this is identical with "play a note with some pitch and volume 0"). So it isn't midi that cares about the polyphony, but the instrument.

your missing my point, to get the MAM to do slides you need to send it two notes at the same time i.e note A stays on while note B starts. Doing this on a step sequencer that only does one note per step (like the EF-303 someone mentioned) is impossible since you cannot send more than one note per step. So unless you want something that will not allow you to play slides, I would look beyond step sequencers

I'm missing the point to...the Mobius is a one track sequencer with one note per step and it does what he wants to do... no?

Altitude wrote:your missing my point, to get the MAM to do slides you need to send it two notes at the same time i.e note A stays on while note B starts. Doing this on a step sequencer that only does one note per step (like the EF-303 someone mentioned) is impossible since you cannot send more than one note per step. So unless you want something that will not allow you to play slides, I would look beyond step sequencers

I've not used the EF-303 but had a good look at the manual and it offers per step settings for Gate Time (0-105), Slide/Rest (Normal,Slide,Tie,Rest) and Velocity (0-127).

It looks like sequences can be run forward, backward, alternate and random and a last step can be set to get those syncopated patterns when run against say 4/4 beats.

I'm sure Roland have f**k up something with it but it looks promising to me.