not the full shilling? wrote:He was really into fitness but just had absolutely no idea how to pace himself. Like Rob, he would go crazy for bursts followed by low periods of waking and collapsing into the ground often in a very dramatic manner.

The erratic pacing is an obvious indication that he doesn't think rationally. I once questioned a well-known high schooler here on the board for his "crazy" pacing. Actually letsrunners are quite polite, and they just brushed me off. Fortunately I didn't pursue the subject. A little later I saw that he had won the mile in some games for the mentally impaired (not the correct term I guess).

Breer, I'm from Iowa

RE: Robert Young fakes run across America6/15/2016 6:34PM - in reply to Racergirl

not the full shilling? wrote:What I'm starting to pick up on from this is that Rob may actually not be the ful shilling which is a British term for saying that someone is a little mentally retarded. In fact, what we could be looking at is someone with severe mental issues who needs help and support in a number of different ways.

If his background story is indeed true then it is little wonder plus who knows what he experienced in the army which has a track record of causing mental issues.

I am starting to think that the number one priority right now is Rob's physical safety in terms of sun stroke as well as exhaustion. Once the 'run' is over, regardless of the outcome, I feel that Rob will then require mental support to help get him over this.

However, like all support, it will only work if he looks in the mirror and truly acknowledges his delusions and puts them right. I think we would all have a lot of support and respect if he put his hands up and said this and then went on to achieve a number of genuine running results. He is still very young for ultras so who knows what he could go on to achieve. Plus, now he is very well know and people like Laz I'm sure would only be too happy to help him down the line if he steps up and takes responsibility for this fraudulent attempt as well as his past ones.

I really hope when this is over that Rob can emerge in a better place and comes out healthier both mentally & physically.

This is one the most important posts in the thread. If he really is mentally retarded (or whatever PC diagnosis you have) that would explain a lot. For example his erratic pacing or his uploading of photos of pro cyclists, etc. I've met ruthless swindlers who are extremely likable guys but Robert doesn't fit into that category. All his cheating/lying is so obvious.

I'm a bit torn after that post. Frankly I wouldn't mind see a notorious cheater and fraudster run himself to death. But if he's really not "full shilling" (love those Brits!) he needs help.

The reason I mention this is not to have another dig at the guy but actually out of concern from hearing today's report.

I once knew a guy who was in the army back here in the UK and his behaviour was a bit like this but not on this scale. He was really into fitness but just had absolutely no idea how to pace himself. Like Rob, he would go crazy for bursts followed by low periods of waking and collapsing into the ground often in a very dramatic manner.

Now this guy suffered as it turns out from a number of mental issues initally caused by an abusive step-dad which were made worse I believe by being in the army. I think Rob is crying out for help in many ways here and I hope that he will be able to get it at the end but only if he helps himself first.

The other thing that rings out here is that the guy I knew was one of the most likeable blokes you could ever hope to meet. He was renowned for stopping and chatting to anyone and anybody that would stop and listen to him.

Now that I read this, it seems like this RY guy is almost like a less talented Gerry Lindgren. Well liked guy making a sincere effort, but just full of loony ideas about his accomplishments and abilities.

The day the RV broke down

RE: Robert Young fakes run across America6/15/2016 7:05PM - in reply to Markus