That's utter bullsh*t. If you don't get off that I'd be onto the tv stations. They'd lap this up._________________997.2 Carrera 2S GT Silver/Cocoa.

HSC911Long Beach

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:15 pm Post subject:

FZP wrote:

That's utter bullsh*t. If you don't get off that I'd be onto the tv stations. They'd lap this up.

G2Suzuka

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:56 pm Post subject:

King William street by any chance? Hope the sports exhaust was open to warn pedestrians that you were approaching !

I would be stating the 7.5tonne wagon and the safe passing margin you have to leave when passing parked cars in case the door opens or a headphones zombie steps out from behind it.

Bicycle - not sure about highlighting a double overtake if you have not submitted anything yet. I don’t know the law on that but you could not have passed without going into the bus stop even if the bike was not there!_________________997 Gen2 Turbo S - Speed.
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Stick to the reasonable position that you either stopped and waited for however long the commercial vehicle took to move, therefore blocking the entire road for an age or proceeded with due care leaving a reasonable gap for safety of pedestrians or anyone exiting the parked truck.

The exact details of the Contravention are:-
"52M - failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicles (motor vehicles) - only buses and bicycles allowed Monday to Friday between 7am and 7pm".

I've - unfortunately - already mentioned the Cyclist in my appeal. Damn! I perhaps should not have done so, but at the time it seemed a perfectly logical argument with sufficient weight to challenge the penalty.

I really hope they do not reject the appeal on the basis of the double-overtake. The timing of the cyclist could not be helped, and if one cannot overtake that Lorry (which shouldn't be there in the first place) without entering the Bus Stop, then in theory every car that passed by would have been penalised.

its a while ago but I rang them up and they looked at it while I was on the phone. they basically read the number wrong when I explained that the car in the picture was a ford focus and my car then was a Nissan 200sx coupe. It was a female I spoke to who didn't really know their cars......I had to explain that coupe is different to hatchback and then she asked me my opinion on what the number was in the video??? She cancelled it over the phone

if you can get thro be polite explain no buses coming the other way etc

likely a "young person" given a list of road rules to follow

domboSilverstone

Joined: 15 Mar 2015Posts: 109

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:12 pm Post subject:

911_AS wrote:

Location: Cornhill, City of London.

The exact details of the Contravention are:-
"52M - failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicles (motor vehicles) - only buses and bicycles allowed Monday to Friday between 7am and 7pm".

I've - unfortunately - already mentioned the Cyclist in my appeal. Damn! I perhaps should not have done so, but at the time it seemed a perfectly logical argument with sufficient weight to challenge the penalty.

I really hope they do not reject the appeal on the basis of the double-overtake. The timing of the cyclist could not be helped, and if one cannot overtake that Lorry (which shouldn't be there in the first place) without entering the Bus Stop, then in theory every car that passed by would have been penalised.

Ridiculous.

Little chance of appeal I'm afraid. It looks like you were done for driving a car where only buses or bikes are allowed between 7am and 7pm, and the time stamp says 0915. It's been like that since May 2017.

Not sure about that I work in Poultry and the restrictions are to stop people driving through the Bank junction - but you can turn left into Cornhill from Threadneedle street

Unfortunately he's going the other way, going west towards Bank junction, but from the angle of approach looking like he made a left turn from Bishopsgate.

Very easy to miss the bike/bus only signs at pavement level, as they face traffic coming from Leadenhall Street.

Hi Dombo. Thanks for this. Interesting, as I had no idea I was driving in a Zone which restricts cars at certain times. From the Video, it clearly states the Contravention occurs at the exact time I enter the Bus Stop. It's ambiguous to say the least. I did not see any road signs implying the area was restricted. I was driving a brand new 911 and simply followed the Sat Nav guidance.I take it every car driving on that road was presumably hit with a PCN?_________________991.1 C2S. 2012. Basalt Black. PDK.
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domboSilverstone

Joined: 15 Mar 2015Posts: 109

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:02 pm Post subject:

911_AS wrote:

dombo wrote:

vlad wrote:

Not sure about that I work in Poultry and the restrictions are to stop people driving through the Bank junction - but you can turn left into Cornhill from Threadneedle street

Unfortunately he's going the other way, going west towards Bank junction, but from the angle of approach looking like he made a left turn from Bishopsgate.

Very easy to miss the bike/bus only signs at pavement level, as they face traffic coming from Leadenhall Street.

Hi Dombo. Thanks for this. Interesting, as I had no idea I was driving in a Zone which restricts cars at certain times. From the Video, it clearly states the Contravention occurs at the exact time I enter the Bus Stop. It's ambiguous to say the least. I did not see any road signs implying the area was restricted. I was driving a brand new 911 and simply followed the Sat Nav guidance.I take it every car driving on that road was presumably hit with a PCN?

Yes, the signs are rubbish and seem designed purely to catch people out and line the mayor's coffers. Only those turning sharp left from Threadneedle would be ok.

G2Suzuka

Joined: 26 Oct 2015Posts: 1221

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:05 pm Post subject:

911_AS wrote:

Hi Dombo. Thanks for this. Interesting, as I had no idea I was driving in a Zone which restricts cars at certain times. From the Video, it clearly states the Contravention occurs at the exact time I enter the Bus Stop. It's ambiguous to say the least. I did not see any road signs implying the area was restricted. I was driving a brand new 911 and simply followed the Sat Nav guidance.I take it every car driving on that road was presumably hit with a PCN?

Err sorry but sign missing ain’t going to work on this one..pic from street view....happy to buy you a pint to commiserate though given that there are a few of us working very close to bank/poultry. Impromptu city meet one afternoon/evening boys?_________________997 Gen2 Turbo S - Speed.
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vladImola

Joined: 16 Aug 2006Posts: 840

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:36 pm Post subject:

Quote:

dombo wrote:

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vlad wrote:
Not sure about that I work in Poultry and the restrictions are to stop people driving through the Bank junction - but you can turn left into Cornhill from Threadneedle street

Unfortunately he's going the other way, going west towards Bank junction, but from the angle of approach looking like he made a left turn from Bishopsgate.

Very easy to miss the bike/bus only signs at pavement level, as they face traffic coming from Leadenhall Street.

Yes my bad, you're scr%w$d

I'll buy you a pint at the counting house ! (On the left hidden by the Lorry)

EdTheDuckNewbie

Joined: 16 Jan 2017Posts: 33

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:43 pm Post subject:

As above, I think you’re done like a kipper.

Look on the bright side, at least it’s only a PCN, not a NIP...

G2Suzuka

Joined: 26 Oct 2015Posts: 1221

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:50 pm Post subject:

[quote="vlad"]

Quote:

dombo wrote:

Quote:

vlad wrote:
Not sure about that I work in Poultry and the restrictions are to stop people driving through the Bank junction - but you can turn left into Cornhill from Threadneedle street

Unfortunately he's going the other way, going west towards Bank junction, but from the angle of approach looking like he made a left turn from Bishopsgate.

Very easy to miss the bike/bus only signs at pavement level, as they face traffic coming from Leadenhall Street

Yes my bad, you're scr%w$d

I'll buy you a pint at the counting house ! (On the left hidden by the Lorry)

Good choice. Fuller . That was my second office for a while _________________997 Gen2 Turbo S - Speed.
991 C4S - Riviera.

vlad wrote:
Not sure about that I work in Poultry and the restrictions are to stop people driving through the Bank junction - but you can turn left into Cornhill from Threadneedle street

Unfortunately he's going the other way, going west towards Bank junction, but from the angle of approach looking like he made a left turn from Bishopsgate.

Very easy to miss the bike/bus only signs at pavement level, as they face traffic coming from Leadenhall Street.

Yes my bad, you're scr%w$d

I'll buy you a pint at the counting house ! (On the left hidden by the Lorry)

Did someone mention the Counting House?

I was there last week and the signs were pretty clear.... Mind you - I was a pedestrian at the time!_________________Current:
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