Bob-
Mike should certainly be on the SEC reflector. He IS a member of the Exec,
it is just that he is a non-voting member until he makes it out of SG
status. If he was not put on the reflector then it was due to either
misunderstanding or an oversight.
My view as to the "openness of the SEC reflector is as follows:
1) The reflector should NOT be open to anyone who wishes to
subscribe. This is the same as the essence of the meetings of the Exec in
that the peanut gallery does not have the right to speak (although they are
often granted the courtesy)
2) The Exec reflector message traffic should have a thread archive
that is easily accessible from the 802 Home Page. I thought that we had
done this but I can't find anything. This will provide the openness and
visibility that we should have for all of our meetings. It will also
provide any observer with mail access to either side of any discussion that
is taking place.
I would ask that Paul take action to clarify each of these 3 items and to
modify our procedures, web page and rules accordingly.
Geoff
At 07:50 AM 10/23/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Mike, you bring up a good question - Do you have the right to be on the SEC
>reflector as an SEC sponsored study group.
>
>While you certainly don't get to vote on the various issues that come up, it
>appears reasonable to me that since the SEC reflector is also used to
>circulate various housekeeping messages such as what size meeting room and
>equipment will you need at the next meeting, that all SEC appointed or
>approved Study Group Chairs should be immediately placed on the SEC
>reflector.
>
>Paul, do you agree? Do we need to take any kind of SEC affirmative action
>to make this happen (such as approving a motion) or can we simply institute
>this as a policy?
>
>Are there any other opinions out there about adding SEC appointed/approved
>Study Group Chairs to the SEC reflector?
>
>Is there any reason that we should need to put this on the Monday morning
>agenda? I, for one, would think we could implement this suggestion without
>motions or discussion, assuming there are no significantly contrary opinions
>voiced on this reflector.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Robert D. Love
>President, LAN Connect Consultants
>7105 Leveret Circle Raleigh, NC 27615
>Phone: 919 848-6773 Mobile: 919 810-7816
>email: rdlove@ieee.org Fax: 720 222-0900
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Mike Takefman <tak@cisco.com>
>To: RDLove <rdlove@nc.rr.com>
>Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 8:39 PM
>Subject: Re: Fw: COOKIES, oops no I mean NETWORKING for upcoming IEEE 802
>meeting
>
>
> > No, I assumed that I would get to join once I was a
> > working group chair. Do I actually get the right
> > to be on now?
> >
> > thanks for the heads up.
> >
> > mike
> >
> > RDLove wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike, are you on the 802SEC reflector?
> > >
> > > I don't expect that our group needs any networking services, but I
>thought
> > > you should know.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Robert D. Love
> > > President, LAN Connect Consultants
> > > 7105 Leveret Circle Raleigh, NC 27615
> > > Phone: 919 848-6773 Mobile: 919 810-7816
> > > email: rdlove@ieee.org Fax: 720 222-0900
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Paul Nikolich <p.nikolich@ieee.org>
> > > To: <stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org>
> > > Cc: <donbe@microsoft.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 1:59 PM
> > > Subject: COOKIES, oops no I mean NETWORKING for upcoming IEEE 802
>meeting
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear SEC,
> > > >
> > > > I have seen more debate/discussion on cookies than on provisioning
> > > > networking services to our attendees for the upcoming
>meeting...amazing!
> > > >
> > > > For those chairs that are interesting in providing network access to
>their
> > > > members, Don Berry of Microsoft is setting up network services at the
> > > > upcoming meeting. If your group has specific requirements, please
>foward
> > > > them to Don so that he can factor them into his plans for the meeting.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > --Paul
> > > >
> > > > >From: Don Berry <donbe@microsoft.com>
> > > > >To: "'Paul Nikolich'" <p.nikolich@ieee.org>,
>dawns@facetoface-events.com
> > > > >Subject: RE: networking for upcoming IEEE 802 meeting
> > > > >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:37:42 -0700
> > > > >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58)
> > > > >
> > > > >Paul, Dawn suggested that you poll the rest of the EXCOM to see if
>their
> > > > >groups have any requirements that I need to know about.
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks!
> > > > >Don
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:p.nikolich@ieee.org]
> > > > >Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 2:03 PM
> > > > >To: Don Berry; dawns@facetoface-events.com
> > > > >Subject: networking for upcoming IEEE 802 meeting
> > > > >
> > > > >Don, Dawn,
> > > > >
> > > > >This is to introduce you--Dawn, Don is responsible for setting up the
> > > > >network for the upcoming plenary.
> > > > >
> > > > >Don, Dawn is responsible for setting up all the meeting arrangements.
> > > > >
> > > > >When you get a chance you should sync up on the network planning for
>the
> > > > >meeting.
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > >--Paul
> > > > >
> > > >