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This is slightly
edited transcript of a talk given by Jim Meissner at the Quest Book Store on
06-06-2000.

Jim: I am
Jim Meissner. Kay said she would help me with questions if I get stuck. I am
not used to public speaking at all, so this is very strange for me. I can talk
for hours, talking one on one, but a whole group like this I get nervous. Anyway,
to start with, the reason why the synchronizer was developed is one of the main
questions people ask, and my background is an electrical engineer and I was
a tennis player. I was a very poor tennis player. I was the worst tennis player
in my group, and nothing I did made a difference. I went to tennis camp, I took
lessons, I hit the ball every day. Nothing helped get me above the beginner
levels. So to make a very long story short, I got a patent on a tennis racket,
I got a patent on sports training glasses that synchronize the left and right
hemispheres visually, which helps you see the ball in three dimensions. And
that helps tremendously if you can see the ball with both eyes instead of one
eye, it makes a big difference. But still people were hitting the ball much
too hard for me, would go right by me, and hit the back curtain before I had
a chance to get my racket near it. So I did a lot of research. I am skipping
over this quickly. If anyone wants to know more details exactly why, and how,
let me know. I started researching the Hemi-Sync process the Monroe Institute
has developed, because I ran into a friend who said "You need to be in the Alpha
state when you play tennis". So I said "OK, I'll try that". So when I got a
tape and played in the Alpha state and I played OK, but I didn't play well.
So then he said "Well, maybe you should be in the Theta state". And I said "What's
Theta?" This was the process of learning what these things were. But when I
was in the Theta state I was asleep out there, and I couldn't hit any balls.
So a couple of these points kind of gave me a direction as to where to look.
I wanted to get higher than Alpha which is in the Beta range. And there is nothing
on the market that I found, or any research of how to get into the Beta state.
Everyone wants to get into meditation states, everyone wants to go lower, and
slow brain states. And there is nothing on the market that gets you faster.
So, in researching the Monroe Institute technology and actually trying to prove
to my friend that it doesn't work, I found it does work quite well. And I learned
a whole bunch more because I was seriously researching it. And in the process
I developed the synchronizer which we are talking about here. And with the help
of the Synchronizer, what you can do is make the tennis ball go in absolute
slow motion. You casually walk out there, wait for it to arrive, and hit it.
It's still going 90 miles per hour but to your perception it is now going absolutely
slow. So what has happened is the speed of the tennis ball hasn't changed but
your brain state has increased to a much faster rate so it's taking more samples
per second. So that made the tennis game extremely easy. I got first place trophy
in my group, I moved up higher, I became a tennis instructor and I taught tennis
for 10 years, and I am a certified tennis pro now. (laughter) I'll tell you,
I spent 10 years trying to make this transition from beginner level and nothing
else I tried helped. So this is the beginning of the synchronizer, it's from
my tennis game.

In researching
it, we also found that it helps kids that are learning disabled, kids that are
slow learners, people who are he autistic type of kids. It speeds them up and
they get straight A's in school. So there is a very large market for speeding
up the brain. Then I found out if you play the same type of program in reverse
you can slow down the brain and actually put it to sleep. There are three modes
of that type. There is the Up Mode which speeds up the brain, there is the Down
Mode which slows the brain down, and the Sleep Mode which is the same thing
except it's a very specific frequency - time profile that gets you into deep
delta sleep, which is very important for health. Then the other Mode is the
Hemi-Sync type of program, except we don't call it Hemi-Sync, it is a sweeping
binaural beat which is quite different from anything that I know of on the market.
It sweeps through all the frequencies, different programs between program 50
and 60. You start off with a very slow frequency difference, the Alpha stage,
and then if you go faster you go through Beta and then you go through Gamma,
you go through some very, very high states. And some of the very high frequencies
appear to affect the chakras and all these kind of things which I don't know
too much about. My background is electrical engineering and if anybody here
has right brain questions, or New Age questions, I brought Evelynn my friend
to help me with that. And Mary over here who has been using it for her healing
touch practice and has had some interesting feedback. I brought them as a support
group here because some of these questions I won't be able to answer even though
I designed the machine for a different reason. It turns out that it does so
much more than I ever expected. I mean, almost daily we find new uses for it
which I never would have believed possible much less actually doing it. So l0
years ago when I designed the machine I was a very brilliant electrical engineer
and now when you ask me I'd say the material must have been channeled. So I
have come a long way.

I'd like to take
a moment and demonstrate some of these programs to you. This is the Up Mode,
Program 01. This is the slowest mode. You have to ignore the radio station in
there. When I came here, (there is a big radio station right across the street)
my CD player wouldn't work. The synchronizer had all the radio station sounds
in it. I had to drive home and get my bigger CD player, and I had to built a
filter here to go between the Synchronizer and the rest of it to get rid of
that radio station. There is still a little bit in there, well anyway, it's
better than it was.

So anyway what
you are listening to here is set of pulses, that move from right to left, there
is a phase modulation, there is an amplitude modulation, and what you don't
hear is the frequency changing extremely, extremely slowly. Over a period of
about 5 minutes or so the frequency will have doubled, but hopefully you did
not notice in the meantime that it has changed frequency. At the end of the
program, you'll feel as if you had 10 cups of coffee, you are going to be all
nervous and jittery, and it will have driven you up into higher states without
your really recognizing it.

Guest: So is this
the one that you used for playing tennis?

Jim: Yes, that's
correct, yes. Actually this one gets you started. This is starting at alpha
frequencies, 10 hertz, moved up to 20 hertz. And then there are other programs
which go faster. Once I learned how to do -- And this is a learning process,
this is really a teaching tool, this is not black magic, it takes time, it takes
maybe weeks of working with it, just like you would be lifting weights. It takes
time to build the brain up to a higher state. And, let me spend a moment on
that, because let me explain that. This is very similar to weight lifting. Now
people say how could this work, how could this affect your brain. My left arm
is not as strong as my right arm. Nothing wrong with my left arm. I just don't
use it as much. So how would you get the left arm to become stronger? The "New
Age" people say, well, just set your intentions and it will be stronger by morning.
That's not where I come from. I come from the engineer viewpoint and you have
to work for it. The only way I know to make it stronger is to start working
with dumb bells. Well anyway, one of the ways I am going to make this left arm
muscle stronger is to take a 10 pound dumb bell and do 10 reps every other day.
When that becomes too easy, you go to 20 pounds and then you go to 30 pounds,
and 40 pounds, and pretty soon 50 pounds is simple as pie. But it takes weeks
of working with this muscle to make it stronger. Now if you had told me that
lifting weights would make my arm stronger, I would not have believed you, unless
I had seen evidence of having worked with weights, having seen people with big
muscles, and how they got that way. Intuitively I would not believe that lifting
weights and doing something strenuous would do anything useful. It would hurt
your arm, make you tired, and can't possible do anything. But we know from experience,
that we have seen it and we have heard about it, that lifting weights helps
make muscles stronger, somehow. I don't know how it works, I don't know what
is in there. I have the same theory that I can make the muscle between the two
ears stronger with the proper training tool. It doesn't get stronger by itself,
it doesn't get stronger by wishful thinking, doesn't get stronger by intention,
positive thinking, and all of those things. I think it gets stronger if you
work it. But you have to work it with the proper weight. If you start with a
50 pound weight on the arm you are going to rip the muscles, hurt yourself,
and it's not going to do any training effect. You have to go through the 10
pound weight first, then 20 pounds. You have to go through sequences, and as
you get stronger, then you take the higher programs. There are 5 different programs
on this machine that are all the same Up Mode, but they are stronger weights,
you could say. So as you go into higher frequencies, it works the brain harder,
the repetition rate goes up, and it really, really works hard, and if you go
too fast you will get very tired and fall asleep. So it is something you spend
time with and slowly work up to it.

So anyway, let
me demonstrate the other programs. Program One. Program Two, this is twice as
fast. Program Three... this is the program that once I learned how to handle
this kind of speed, my tennis game improved significantly. This goes relatively
fast and it takes probably a couple of weeks of training before you can follow
this as though it is going slowly. Here is Four. Here is Five. Some people claim
they can follow this easily. Unbelievable, I don't believe them. That's going
much to fast.

Anyway, the Down
Mode........

Ed Pearson: What
do you mean "follow" it easily?

Jim: Good question,
yes. Let me play that again. This program, (playing Mode 05) you can hear it
going zipity zip back and forth, right? Can you hear each individual pulse?
Let me go back to the first one. The first one you can hear each individual
pulse (playing Mode 01). You can follow it, you can point your finger at it,
and if there were three people in the room pointing fingers, they would agree.
The other one just goes swish, swish, swish, swish, swish, and goes much too
fast to really entrain your brain. What we are working with here, by the way,
is the sympathetic nervous system. In other words what we are engaging the mind
with is the fight - flight response, the sympathetic nervous system. It is the
auditory system that keeps track of your environment. It keeps the bear from
chasing you or someone sneaking up on you from behind, it helps you find where
game is that you are looking for, helps you from becoming the game, and the
mind keeps track of all the sounds around you. It is very, very accurate, very,
very sensitive. So if something loud happens, if a fire cracker went off in
that corner over there, everyone in the room would be forced to look there.
You have no choice but to look at the very intense sound, because you have to
define whether that is dangerous, whether you have to fight it, or whether you
have to run because the building is collapsing, or something. So this is the
part of the brain that I play with, I toy with, I give it these signals, there
is one here, there is one here, and every time there is one of these signals
the brain has to try to determine where it came from. It has to calculate where
in space the sound originated from . And how the brain does it mainly is the
time delay between the right and left ear. If the sound arrives to the right
ear before the left ear, it has to be from over there on the left. It actually
calculates the time difference very, very precisely. It is amazing that the
brain can do that. But the time difference is the vector of what angle the sound
is coming from. The volume, how loud it is, if it is louder in the right ear,
it has to be over there someplace on the right. It uses two cues, the brain
uses two cues to determine where the sound is coming from. Time delay, or time
difference, and amplitude. So, what I am doing is, with a computer program,
I am generating an artificial program, mental weight lifting, I am forcing it
to keep on identifying these sounds. And it has to do it. There is no way the
brain can ignore these high intensity sounds. It is absolutely something that
is primitive, the fight - flight response, it has no choice but to follow that.
If you try to ignore it, it works even better. It's much more effective if you
try to ignore it.

Ed Pearson: Another
question, are you saying that as one's brain becomes exercised, that the sound
that you hear, when your brain has become accustomed to this at the 3rd or 4th
or 5th level that the sensation would be the same as what we are now hearing
at the 1st level?

Jim: The sound
would appear to be coming much slower. Like the tennis ball appears to be going
in slow motion once you have learned the process. But it is not really "accustoming",
that is not really the right word I would use. I would say that what we are
dealing with here is, you are making the muscles stronger, you are training
the mind to process data more easily and faster. In other words what happens
in the muscle that makes it stronger? I really don't know. Nutrition? More blood,
training? With the muscle between the two ears, there are effects that we can
measure. We have done testing in the hospital where we can measure the Oxygen
consumption going up, as you listen to these programs, you can see the respiration
rate going very, very high, 20 to 30 breaths per minute versus normal, which
is 12 breaths per minute. You will see the CO2 exhaust going sky high when you
are listening to this program. And you will see the respiration volume, liters
per minute, going sky high. The brain, when it does work, uses glucose and oxygen
as a fuel. The waste product is CO2 and water. So by analyzing the gasses you
can see that this "muscle between the ears" is working at a hyper rate. And
it is not at all getting accustomed to it, rather it comes to a point where
brain can handle the load better. You can actually process the data at a higher
rate.

Guest Ed Pearson:
Oh, well, let me ask the question another way. It's very good information, but
it really hasn't gotten to what I'm asking. Let's assume just for the sake of
discussion, that the first level is a waltz level, and the third level is a
fox trot, and the fifth level is a polka, or some faster dance. Now, as the
training takes place would I be hearing level three as a waltz at any point
or would there still be that distinction, would the waltz slow down or the polka,
slow down to a lower level. And I won't push it beyond this.

Jim: You are asking
the question in a very difficult way. It is hard for me to answer what you are
asking. If you were to say it differently, let's say that --

Ed Pearson: (Sarcastically)
You ask the question.

Jim: Well, no,
no, no (laughter) I'm going to try to answer your question in a different way.
OK? Let's say that we are doing treadmills. OK, and you can do the treadmill
at a certain rate, so many miles per hour, and you can do that relatively easy
up to a certain speed, and all of a sudden after that speed you can't do that
any more. OK? So let's talk about that for example. Now you train with the synchronizer,
which helps in lots of ways including exercising. Now you can do a higher speed
at a lower heart rate, or at a lower blood pressure. Instead of zoning out at
3 minutes and hitting your peak heart rate and it becoming dangerous, so now
with the help of the Synchronizer training you can do 10 minutes at the same
blood pressure and heart rate. You have made your system more efficient and
it is utilizing the oxygen better. The oxygen uptake capacity has increased.
OK? The analogy of the waltz and the swing, I don't think that's pertinent here.
It is the capability! In other words, do you have a 30 horse power engine in
your car now, or do you have a 100 horse power, or a 200 horse power engine?
It doesn't mean you have to run it at 300 horse power, but having it there,
you can pass a truck going up the hill. It is more of capability than the Jitterbug
becoming slow. Does that help any?

Ed Pearson: Good
question...

Evelynn: You are
talking perception.

Ed Pearson: Exactly!

Jim: Perception!
Let me just jump on that for a minute. I had a fellow who was promising to help
me market my Synchronizer. And he said that he has never been able to beat his
partner in tennis. He has always lost every set he has ever played. And I told
him "Find a different partner, find someone that you can beat". (laughter) So
anyway, he decided he would like to try this for the weekend to see if he could
beat his partner. So he borrowed the synchronizer and went out and played. The
next Monday he brought the synchronizer back and said "Jim, it didn't work.
I'm not interested in dealing with this at all." And I said "Well, did you play
your friend?" He said "yea". Well, what happened. "Oh, I beat him easily". "Well,
then doesn't that mean the Synchronizer worked?" "No, I don't know. The guy
was playing terrible that day, he kept giving me these slow balls and I just
put them away. And every ball I hit at him, he never even went for them, I don't
know what was wrong with him, he was half asleep that day." So, this person's
perceptions believed that he hadn't changed, it's the rest of the world that
is now going slow. I couldn't convince him that it might have been something
with the Synchronizer. He would not believe it. So the perception is completely
unreliable unless you have something to judge it against. If you are sitting
in a bus going 50 miles per hour down the turnpike, or 600 miles an hour in
an airplane, how could you tell the difference? You really can't. Unless you
have some kind of signpost, or some kind of measurement.