I ordered the rack and the 41l panniers but when they finally came there was only 1 pannier. My dealer had told me they were 2 for $300.00 ... anyways I didn't want to wait anymore or pay $600 so he sent them back, but I kept the rack.

I found a great factory down the street yesterday that makes all kinds of cool boxes - they look really strong, and they are water proof and have some thing that keep them pressurized. Here's a link to their web site:http://www.melmat.com/DesktopDefault.aspx

I think I may get two of those but I've been scratching my head trying to find a way to make them "quick realese" and still lockable. I wonder if trail tech would sell me a set of those hooks ...