Looks to me to be one of the worlds best young batsmen, at least he looks to have a lot of potential.

24-05-2013, 05:06 AM

sphynx

Pattinson, Siddle and Harris is significantly better than NZ lineup, as much as I rate them.

If England prepare greentops, this series will be alot closer than most (especially English fans) think.

I honestly think the Australian bowlers will swing it more than the English, Harris and Pattinson consistently swing the Kookaburra, the Duke is alot easier to swing with the smaller seam and the laquer they use on the ball...............

Someone like Starc could be pretty interesting if he gets a run, he probably will at some stage.

24-05-2013, 05:07 AM

Pothas

Harris is actually going to play? Is this something people are actually assuming?

24-05-2013, 06:21 AM

uvelocity

Quote:

Originally Posted by TumTum

I really have no interest in this series and do not care if we get thrashed every session of every day of every Test. Tour of India has pretty much killed my interest in following the Aussie team. Full of jokers and ****s.

But I will be watching just because I like cricket (and have nothing better to do...). I will actually enjoy watching Trott and Cook's batting for a change.

things that grind my foruming gears:
posters who state the obvious

24-05-2013, 09:38 AM

Furball

Quote:

Originally Posted by TumTum

I really have no interest in this series and do not care if we get thrashed every session of every day of every Test. Tour of India has pretty much killed my interest in following the Aussie team. Full of jokers and ****s.

But I will be watching just because I like cricket (and have nothing better to do...). I will actually enjoy watching Trott and Cook's batting for a change.

IIRC Steve Smith isn't in the squad.

25-05-2013, 07:42 AM

sphynx

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Originally Posted by Pothas

Harris is actually going to play? Is this something people are actually assuming?

I heard him in an interview not 2 days ago, said he was 100% fit, and had been bowling 15-20 overs a day in the nets for the past 3 weeks in camp in Brisbane.

He also said Starc should be right for the tour games, and had probably been the most impressive with the Duke ball in training.

25-05-2013, 04:48 PM

Burgey

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Originally Posted by Maximas

Looks to me to be one of the worlds best young batsmen, at least he looks to have a lot of potential.

Yeah, which is what being unproven means isn't it? Certainly batted well last evening.

25-05-2013, 08:56 PM

hendrix

Unproven, but probably past the point where you'd call him a weakness in the lineup tbh.

25-05-2013, 09:04 PM

wellAlbidarned

Ian Bell must be the least threatening batsman in the world to average over 40. Simply don't give a **** when he's at the crease, unlike guys like Prior and Cook.

25-05-2013, 09:46 PM

Daemon

How is England's batting weak? Serious gambhiring (for lack of a better term) at work here.

Compare them to any side in the world other than South Africa and it's clear they aren't ****.

Cook, Pior, KP - guns. Trott's been alright since after the UAE disaster. It's just Bell who's been ****, even Compton and Root have already shown signs that they're good enough for this level. Add England's lower order to that and I really can't fathom how anyone can say their batting is below par. It's one of the best lineups in the world atm.

26-05-2013, 03:01 AM

flibbertyjibber

I think you will find it is Aussies clutching at straws trying to convince themselves they aren't as bad as they are and have a good chance of winning this summer.

26-05-2013, 03:12 AM

Maximas

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Originally Posted by Burgey

Yeah, which is what being unproven means isn't it? Certainly batted well last evening.

"unproven at best" was a bit harsh I thought, I would argue he is a little more accomplished than that, these last two tests he's looked better than any other English batsman.

26-05-2013, 03:54 AM

GIMH

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daemon

How is England's batting weak? Serious gambhiring (for lack of a better term) at work here.

Compare them to any side in the world other than South Africa and it's clear they aren't ****.

Cook, Pior, KP - guns. Trott's been alright since after the UAE disaster. It's just Bell who's been ****, even Compton and Root have already shown signs that they're good enough for this level. Add England's lower order to that and I really can't fathom how anyone can say their batting is below par. It's one of the best lineups in the world atm.

Trott and Bell's form isn't inspiring, KP is injured. You throw a couple of rookies into that environment and people will worry. Won't take much to turn things around but given the quality of bowling expected this summer (and indeed seen so far) it won't be easy

26-05-2013, 04:20 AM

Prince EWS

I definitely wouldn't call England's batting "weak" by current international standards, however it's definitely not great either and it's something worth worrying about (even if not panicking), particularly as Australia have a good attack.

26-05-2013, 04:23 AM

Furball

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daemon

How is England's batting weak?

It certainly weak enough to collapse to a match losing total this summer.