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I avoid anything containing citric acid because most sources are made from corn. It can be made from other sources, but if they don't specify, I assume it's corn and avoid it. I don't know how I react to corn or corn derivatives, and I really don't want to find out! Corn is super-toxic for Os, but since it's neutral for A secretors, it may not be quite as terrible for you personally. Or, you may have a problem specifically with citric acid, even if you tolerate other forms of corn.

Possum, I didn't know that about the relationship of MSG and citric acid - I do avoid MSG as don't react well to that either.... but usually with afib or diarrhoea - could be a very valid point, thankyou.

Do those of you who react to citric acid also have a problem with supplements containing a mineral+citrate also? I used to take magnesium citrate which does make a nice refreshing drink, but have changed to mag ascorbate instead....... but my main anti-afib one is mag glycinate.

Do those of you who react to citric acid also have a problem with supplements containing a mineral+citrate also? I used to take magnesium citrate which does make a nice refreshing drink, but have changed to mag ascorbate instead....... but my main anti-afib one is mag glycinate.

I'm glad you're bringing up this subject. From what I keep reading on the web, magnesium citrate can come from corn or beets. Or maybe there is a citrus source.. I've written customer service at DPN three times asking the source of their magnesium citrate and have gotten no answer. I wrote again this morning after an inquiry two weeks ago and one before that, early summer. Magnesium citrate is in almost all of the DPN supplements and I take a lot of thoseproducts. Just don't know the source of the mag citrate. Only solitary magnesium citrate I've found that says "no corn" on the label is the NOW brand. My joints hurt from corn. I am dismayed that customer service does not answer my inquiries.

Edited to add: I just got an email back from DPN....Gwen said that product manager is going to contact thelabs for information regarding the source of their magnesium citrate and she will get back to me. WhenI know more, I will share here.

"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"

Edited to add: I just got an email back from DPN....Gwen said that product manager is going to contact the labs for information regarding the source of their magnesium citrate and she will get back to me. When I know more, I will share here.

My issues were with magnesium aspartate and not other forms of magnesium.

So I actually assumed that the problem was not with the magnesium but with aspartate and orotate (a conversion product of aspartate).

But since the argument was being made that magnesium absorption was higher for the same dose in the asportate form because of increased absorption, then the problems could be from magnesium instead of aspartate. Since magnesium lowers blood pressure and affects the heart perhaps it could produce symptoms that mimicked a blood clot on the side of the face.

Side effects of aspartate seem to be not not as agreed upon as the magnesium, but I noted the following suggestions on various Web sites:

I just checked the data base and the vanillin and vanilla are avoids for me and I wonder if it is because of the corn issue. I have 1oo% organic, whole vanilla bean powder. This is making me reconsider the vanilla issue.

Got my answer from DPN. I'm disappointed. It's corn derived....and it makes no difference to methat it's non-gmo because it's still corn......Corn is a black dot for me and I'm getting it many times during the day --every day!

Below is the response from the labs.

The magnesium citrate is made in the USA. The citrate component to thiscomplex is made from non-gmo corn. The company we purchase from did notstate which country; however, they did assure me that they always sourcenon-gmo citric acid.

"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"

Are NAP and DPN the same company? If so, that means that the mag citrate in the NAP formulas have corn in them? Corn is a total avoid for me. If this is the case, I am assuming that Dr. D. is aware of all of the ingredients, does the fact that it is non GMO overide it as an avoid. Perhaps the corn testes for SWAMIE was GMO corn? I hope someone with the answer replies to this. Thanks.