I have to admit, even the "sympathetic" complaints in these sorts of discussions seem to always become inextricable from "we used to be the majority color here, and now we aren't" if you poke hard enough at it, which is why I tend to be unsympathetic to the grumpy old whites and the anti-gentrifiers.

Exactly. The actual complaints you hear are quite different from "When I bought my house it was on a quiet country road where I could hear crickets every night, and now it's an eight-lane suburban sprawl and there's so much light pollution I can no longer see the Milky Way when I look outside at night" ... hell, I'd dislike that too, for all that I LIKE the actual suburban-sprawl businesses in question. But those aren't the complaints you hear.

"Myself, despite what they say about libertarians, I think we're actually allowed to pursue options beyond futility or sucking the dicks of the powerful." -- Eric the .5b