I know Song very well; I have trained with him several times over the past several years Song knows what he is talking about and can demonstrate very effectively You might also look up Garry Rooks he does sound work as well and has some good videos – I train with Gary on a regular basis as well. http://www.angelfire.com/ga/cincinnatikarate/index.html

My base art is GoJu and I also study and teach Kyusho-Jitsu. We incorporate sound (Kia-Jitsu) into our Kyuhso training and it very clearly works. I have demonstrated this over and over.

Take the time to learn Kia-Jitsu and it will greatly enhance your pressure point work You have an excellent source in Mast Pak

We have carried out a study at the university using WSM showing that Qi can be emitted from the human body. This has been submitted for publication and once it has been I will provide a link to the paper.

We work with sound on a regular basis both Song Pak and Gary Rooks are part of DKI and teach and demonstrate sound on a regular basis, as do most of the senior instructors, including of course Dillman Sensei whom without most of this information would simply not be available to the general martial arts community. We have been discussing curtailing these activities and only doing more basic Kyusho in the publics workshops simply because of the closed-minded attitudes and responses this more esoteric knowledge solicits.

People who stay open-minded and study know this is real and want to make the effort to add it to their knowledge base.

I went to a MMA evening paying about 10 pounds to sit and watch some quality fighters working out.

With MMA in its infancy a lot of the fighters are amateurs and bring a lot of supporters with them.

MMA being what it is ...there were a lot of hard looking people in the crowd of a 1000 or so ...I'd say a lot of these guys wouldn't have needed much encouragement to join in the events.

Anyway - there we are - 4 of us sitting about 5 rows up in the audience, waiting in anticipation for the fights to start - Its sunday night and we are all having a relaxing pint and people watching...never seen so many tattoos in one place.

The lights dimmed...

All was in hush....

Even the row of meaty skinheads sitting in front of us confidently boasting of how their fighter was a champion kickboxer and untouchable quietened...

BOOOM!! An enormous firecracker was set off to signal the start of the evenings fun.

Scared out of his skin my mate sitting next to me leaped in the air like a startled cat...His pint even more startled leaped out of his glass...

All over the cackling crew in front....!!!

Fortunately they took it in good spirit, could have been the mutual cameraderie, could have been the fact that we are also follically challenged...

All I'll say is that sound caused my colleague to falter..in his pants!

I don't think much of this sound thing you mentioned but if it helps you fight better well, use it. A loud Ki-op is just fine, I never liked those guys who came at me with that stupid snake hissing sound either.I'm cranky today since my wife would rather go out to dinner tonight rather than letting me train. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/mad.gif[/IMG] Bonzai

I have been training Kyusho for years , just not down Dillamns line. I trained under OYATAS line and now under DRAGON SOCIETY and thier teachings. I have had folks try this on me and I have not felt any effects. I will say that it may be the technique and not the theory that is failing. I would be very interested in the studies mentioned if they were published.