Yeah, I know this topic has been done to death, but still i cannot fail but notice that people never seem to get weary of it. And also, pardon me - I'm new, so I had to get a first-hand taste of what the knowledgeable people of this forum think. So, here goes my list -

Why should Bivens be considered a TOP 30 Heavyweight? I can see him as a TOP 10 Lightheavy but what makes you think he could have competed with Louis or Marciano? He lost just about every fight with good-great heavyweights.

Yeah, I know this topic has been done to death, but still i cannot fail but notice that people never seem to get weary of it. And also, pardon me - I'm new, so I had to get a first-hand taste of what the knowledgeable people of this forum think. So, here goes my list -

Now, now. I created this thread because I wanted you guys to comment on my Top 30 list. I really do appreciate your coments and I will welcome any suggestions made for it.

But it would be an added bonus if you guys could post your top 10/20/30 list here. Come on fellas - I want it to be the longest thread ever

I think your overly harsh on modern fighters, I mean its a good list at the top end but be serious at the bottom end dude,seriously ... jerry quarry/jack sharkey i don't see any argument for them being top twenty and as for jeanette/godfrey/elmer ray/harry wills etc - I mean have you ever even seen decent footage of these guys in action? I'm sure u haven't ... how can you judge someone you haven't seen especially when they don't have long reigns or loads of great vicories on their cvs ... what about the Klitschkos/ingemar johanson/spinks/ i don't think its right to completely disregard the modern guys who you have seen but might not like in favour of ancient guys you haven't seen but assume you'd like.

oh and one more thing for a diffrent poster bivens number 9 ????????????