A certain "Scott" is handing Corny and his followers their asses here and here.

Very entertaining watching as the "faithful" unknowingly let the cat-out-of-the-bag, demonstrating quite specifically that ID has nothing to do with science.

Can't seem to post there. Oh well...

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Fianna:

If God came down from on high and said "To be a true believer in ME, you must kill and consume one human baby"

What is your answer?

The only possible answer from a true Christian is "Pass the ketchup." But I bet you will not choose this answer as you know that killing and eating human babies is wrong. Here, your own personal morals (and that of the culture that raised you) overcome God's command.

You could answer "No way"... but again, you would be stating that your morals are superior to God's.

No, you will choose the only other possible answer and that is "God would never do that". However, that doesn't help you either, because you are stating that God cannot do something and that there is an objective moral construct that even God must obey.

In that sense you are correct, because "God" is a social and cultural construct that fits in with the culture in which you are currently living. Two hundred years ago, slavery was perfectly OK and God and the Bible and Jesus were used to support that. Why are God, the Bible, and Jesus not being used to support slavery now?

Because, as a culture, we have grown in near adulthood and understand that holding another human being as property is wrong. God hasn't changed, the Bible hasn't changed. We have changed... and therefore our interpretation of the Bible and God have changed.

Once you accept that, then it's just a short step to wonder why we even need the "God" construct at all and we can all lead perfectly moral and polite lives without It.

I also note that you did not list and "facts" about evolution that are taught but are wrong.

--------------Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

CH is on a roll this week-more rants on the science is religious, therefore bad, long live my religion.

Calling Bruce Alberts a Gnostic (not agnostic) was weird to say the least. But then this-

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Donít miss Butler Day at the Cambridge Science Festival next Saturday where evolutionist Ben Irvine will knock down straw men objections to Darwinís theory and explain ďhow understanding Darwinism better can help us all to achieve well-being.Ē

In other news evolutionists performed over 40 million abortions last year.

CH is on a roll this week-more rants on the science is religious, therefore bad, long live my religion.

Calling Bruce Alberts a Gnostic (not agnostic) was weird to say the least. But then this-

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Donít miss Butler Day at the Cambridge Science Festival next Saturday where evolutionist Ben Irvine will knock down straw men objections to Darwinís theory and explain ďhow understanding Darwinism better can help us all to achieve well-being.Ē

In other news evolutionists performed over 40 million abortions last year.

So, according to corny, over 40 million abortions were "performed" last year by "evolutionists". Hmm, I wonder if he personally asked every person who "performed" any or all those alleged abortions if they're an "evolutionist"? Obviously, to corny, anyone who performs an abortion must be an "evolutionist" and corny absolutely hates "evolutionists" and blames "evolutionists" for all the world's ills whether they really are "evolutionists" or not.

joe g likes to say that ID isn't anti-evolution but anyone who pays attention to the ID agenda knows that ID is anti-evolution, and in corny's case it's really, really obvious that he is ANTI-evolution! He constantly bitches about "evolution" and "evolutionists". He's a religious nutcase, just like all the other IDiots.

--------------Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

CH is on a roll this week-more rants on the science is religious, therefore bad, long live my religion.

Calling Bruce Alberts a Gnostic (not agnostic) was weird to say the least. But then this-

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Donít miss Butler Day at the Cambridge Science Festival next Saturday where evolutionist Ben Irvine will knock down straw men objections to Darwinís theory and explain ďhow understanding Darwinism better can help us all to achieve well-being.Ē

In other news evolutionists performed over 40 million abortions last year.

So, according to corny, over 40 million abortions were "performed" last year by "evolutionists". Hmm, I wonder if he personally asked every person who "performed" any or all those alleged abortions if they're an "evolutionist"? Obviously, to corny, anyone who performs an abortion must be an "evolutionist" and corny absolutely hates "evolutionists" and blames "evolutionists" for all the world's ills whether they really are "evolutionists" or not.

joe g likes to say that ID isn't anti-evolution but anyone who pays attention to the ID agenda knows that ID is anti-evolution, and in corny's case it's really, really obvious that he is ANTI-evolution! He constantly bitches about "evolution" and "evolutionists". He's a religious nutcase, just like all the other IDiots.

Perhaps "evolutionists" perform the abortions, but I have a question for Corny if someone could relay it to his blog: Who gets abortions and supplies the demand "evolutionists" allegedly fulfill?

"Almost three-quarters of women obtaining abortions in 2008 reported a religious affiliation. The largest proportion were Protestant (37%), and most of the rest said that they were Catholic (28%) or that they had no religious affiliation (27%). One in five abortion patients identified themselves as born-again, evangelical, charismatic or fundamentalist; 75% of these were Protestant."

CH is on a roll this week-more rants on the science is religious, therefore bad, long live my religion.

Calling Bruce Alberts a Gnostic (not agnostic) was weird to say the least. But then this-

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Donít miss Butler Day at the Cambridge Science Festival next Saturday where evolutionist Ben Irvine will knock down straw men objections to Darwinís theory and explain ďhow understanding Darwinism better can help us all to achieve well-being.Ē

In other news evolutionists performed over 40 million abortions last year.

This kind of shit really twists my melon. I am a mild-mannered type, but - as a commenter on that piece suggested - evolutionists place no value on human life. Yes, of course. That would be why I'm such a shit dad, husband and friend, why I never stop to help strangers in a car crash, give blood or carry a donor card, why I regularly take myself off and torture babies and puppies, why I'm right behind killing Muslims in their beds and state executions. Oh, hang on, none of that's me. I do value life. And I don't even need a fucking celestial Reward to keep me on the straight and narrow. How can that be ...?

I was involved in an abortion decision, and it still breaks my fucking heart. I think it was the right thing to do, and I think that there is a need. In the real world people have sex, contraception isn't foolproof, not everyone is financially secure, and we are on our way to being the only species left on the planet. I'd rather there wasn't a need, and if I were God ... but no, it was a desperately hard decision that still haunts me. So fuck off Hunter, that is just contemptible.

--------------SoapySam is a pathetic asswiper. Joe G

BTW, when you make little jabs like ‚ÄúI thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,‚ÄĚ you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

And let's look at the fact that entropy will cause the amino acids to become dilute in the ocean. The number of a.a. per mole, and the number of litres are roughly the same. So, for a molar concentration of 1 in a million (10^-6), this means each a.a. will be surrounded by a million litres = million x 1,000 c.c., = cube root of 10^9 divided by 8 radial distance = 125 cm. = 48 in. roughly. So EACH a.a. is 4 feet from the nearest next amino acid. How can they get close enough to form a bond exactly?

What is with creationists and moles?

I like the million liters occupying a few cubic feet after some "math."

A concentration of one micromolar has about 600 million molecules per nanoliter.

So PaV was the guy trying to dismiss the paper by Jeff Shallit and me over on Good Math, Bad Math? Interesting.

Probability of 4.0. That might be sig-worthy in a world without Dorothy Parker in it.

I don't know, but I get the impression that even I, non-mathematical me, are able to understand who's right and who's not in the Good Math, Bad Math thread. If that is right, the Bad Mathers must be awfully bad. Let me guess: It is because they are after a particular answer that they somehow 'know' has got to be there, or else? And that runs all the way back from the sycopanths to WMAD himself.

Just my opininon, too late for me to learn math now. I might as well keep my big mouth shut but sometimes one gets fed up with the attempts at creating irrational models of the world.

So PaV was the guy trying to dismiss the paper by Jeff Shallit and me over on Good Math, Bad Math? Interesting.

Probability of 4.0. That might be sig-worthy in a world without Dorothy Parker in it.

I don't know, but I get the impression that even I, non-mathematical me, are able to understand who's right and who's not in the Good Math, Bad Math thread. If that is right, the Bad Mathers must be awfully bad. Let me guess: It is because they are after a particular answer that they somehow 'know' has got to be there, or else? And that runs all the way back from the sycopanths to WMAD himself.

Just my opininon, too late for me to learn math now. I might as well keep my big mouth shut but sometimes one gets fed up with the attempts at creating irrational models of the world.

HAH! †WHO ARE YOU TO TALK? HOMO.

IF YOU HAD A VALID CASE, A PHD AWARDED BY A SUNDAY SCHOOL DIPLOMA MILL WOULD BE INVALID.

WHEN NEWSPEAK TAKES OVER, ANYONE WITH A GRUDGE AGAINST THE TESTING THE DEFINITION OF TRUTH BY TEH SCIENTIFIC METHOD CAN LIKE BILL DISPENSE WITH IT AS EASY AS CLEANING OUT HIS COFFEE MACHINE.

FORGET THE MATH. BILL HAS SET A NEW PARAJIM. ANYONE WHO CAN PRESENT 2 x PHDs AT A CRACKPOT CONVENTION IS TEH WINNER.

"Another such feature is the lack of endemic infectious retroviruses in humans. The problem is that these viruses are present in the other primates, and so according to evolutionists these viruses must be present in their common ancestor which, again according to evolution, would be an ancestor of humans as well. This leaves evolution with yet another ridiculous just-so story. ... In other words, when evolution spontaneously created humans our DNA must have been ďpurged.Ē We got a do-over! Hilarious."

Endemic infectious retroviruses, being infectious (acquired), and not endogenous don't integrate in the germline and transmit--leaving nothing to be 'purged' from the genome after the host evolved to be non-susceptible to infection.

Just give me some time to buy some call options on Kiberly Clark. †I'm projecting a HUGE spike in sales of Kleenex and Depends...

and monitor screen wipes.

--------------"But it's disturbing to think someone actually thinks creationism -- having put it's hand on the hot stove every day for the last 400 years -- will get a different result tomorrow." -- midwifetoad

"Another such feature is the lack of endemic infectious retroviruses in humans. The problem is that these viruses are present in the other primates, and so according to evolutionists these viruses must be present in their common ancestor which, again according to evolution, would be an ancestor of humans as well. This leaves evolution with yet another ridiculous just-so story. ... In other words, when evolution spontaneously created humans our DNA must have been ďpurged.Ē We got a do-over! Hilarious."

Endemic infectious retroviruses, being infectious (acquired), and not endogenous don't integrate in the germline and transmit--leaving nothing to be 'purged' from the genome after the host evolved to be non-susceptible to infection.