Carl has been been shaking up the staid world of academic entrepreneurship research for over 8 years as the head of the foundation. I think the expectation was that putting the two of us together would see the fur fly.

Instead of a brawl it turned out to be collegial, entertaining and informative.

Hi Steve, I just read Clayton’s last book “Seeing what’s next”, and, as a follow up, I am re-reading the previous one “Innovator’s Solution”. In those he does mention how large corporations need to spin out disruptive ideas into separate entities, etc. Yes, in the first (now seminal) “innovator’s Dilemma” he did not specifically address this, but in the subsequent ones he did.