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That's going to be quite a spike in welfare numbers, given most refugees will have low skill sets. Then there's the following generation who, from our experience in NZ will be almost as welfare dependent as their parents. It's only generation 3 that shown a marked drop in dependency as their aspirations start matching the 'indigenous' population. 30-40 years of welfare spike with an already ageing population.

In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility

60% of refugees coming to Germany are Yugoslavians, 20% are predominantly Christians from various south-of-Sahel African countries that used to live in various North African countries until everyone except Germany decided to fuel the "Arab Spring". The remaining 20% are Syrians and Afghanis. There's a small amount of Pakistanis too, but we mostly deport those.

Originally Posted by Mihais

The new EU plan to spread 160000 across EU may pass this time,at gunpoint.But it's worthless.

Indeed, it's worthless. If Germany takes in 800,000 we should be distributing 5 million across the EU. 650,000 for France, 600,000 for the UK and Italy each, 400,000 for Spain and Poland each, 200,000 for Romania...

Originally Posted by Doktor

can you ask Greece to at least drop the migrants on the legal border crossings?

but letting this (anywhere for any reason) happen is a burden, a sin... a huge real one that should be felt by ALL humanity.

we, as a an entire race, deserve nothing...

I dunno, as an Indian i just don't feel the outrage as much as you do.
Go around any big city in India and you will see human suffering in all its forms everywhere every day.

All I will say is once there was only India...now there is India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Europe is fortunate not to have experienced this issue and should take the long view and prevent any chance of it coming up.

I dunno, as an Indian i just don't feel the outrage as much as you do.
Go around any big city in India and you will see human suffering in all its forms everywhere every day.

All I will say is once there was only India...now there is India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Europe is fortunate not to have experienced this issue and should take the long view and prevent any chance of it coming up.

Well, its easy to point fingers at those pesky European barbarians for doing nothing.

That family has been denied asylum by Canada.
That family knew they are taking the risk to drawn. Itvwas not a matter of life and death for them.
Turkish authorities let them board on that boat with faulty vests.

But yes, it's easy to take the high horse and mumble at the incompetent, corrupted and disoriented EU.

Look how Europeans fucked it up, what we gonna do?
Blame them and continue to do nothing.

No such thing as a good tax - Churchill

To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.

Worse? Demographic invasion by islamic peoples has never happened before to western Europe.
The last big islamic threat was i believe the Ottomans at their high water mark.
I dont see how modern western europe jaded and indifferent as it is can fight the high birth rate and high motivation of islamists.