Lol this guy calls it western propaganda when Hitler himself was the chief propagandist and though initially it was difficult to read him eventually he was read and his very fruits spoke loudly. Too loudly to ignore. A mans words do not make Him....His actions do because an Action is a stronger expression than words are.

Lol this guy calls it western propaganda when Hitler himself was the chief propagandist and though initially it was difficult to read him eventually he was read and his very fruits spoke loudly. Too loudly to ignore. A mans words do not make Him....His actions do because an Action is a stronger expression than words are.

if you read your links i doubt if you understand them. Let me post an extract from your link and i hope you understand it.

[b]In a speech made later in 1933, Hitler claimed to have "stamped out" the Gottlosenbewegung atheistic movement.[15] The word Hitler used, "Gottlosenbewegung", means "Godless Movement" in German, and refers to the communist freethought movement, though might not refer to atheism in general. The historian Richard J. Evans wrote that, by 1939, 95% of Germans still called themselves Protestant or Catholic, while 3.5% were so called "gottgläubig" (lit. "believers in god", a non-denominational nazified outlook on god beliefs, often described as predominately based on creationist and deistic views[22]) and 1.5% atheist. According to Evans, those members of the affiliation gottgläubig "were convinced Nazis who had left their Church at the behest of the Party, which had been trying since the mid 1930s to reduce the influence of Christianity in society".[23] Heinrich Himmler, who was fascinated with Germanic paganism,[citation needed] was a strong promoter of the gottgläubig movement and didn't allow atheists into the SS, arguing that their "refusal to acknowledge higher powers" would be a "potential source of indiscipline".[24] The majority of the three million Nazi Party members continued to pay their church taxes and register as either Roman Catholic or Evangelical Protestant Christians.[25][/b]

Lol . These atheists and muslims be looking for a tyrant to accuse of being a Christian . If we go ad furdum, you'd see that being a Christian means follower of Christ . And Christ deplored violence and hatred .

Hitler was a true atheist .

same hitler who preferred the teachings of islam, reffering to christianity as " [b]a religion for sickheads[b]

if you read your links i doubt if you understand them. Let me post an extract from your link and i hope you understand it.

[b]In a speech made later in 1933, Hitler claimed to have "stamped out" the Gottlosenbewegung atheistic movement.[15] The word Hitler used, "Gottlosenbewegung", means "Godless Movement" in German, and refers to the communist freethought movement, though might not refer to atheism in general. The historian Richard J. Evans wrote that, by 1939, 95% of Germans still called themselves Protestant or Catholic, while 3.5% were so called "gottgläubig" (lit. "believers in god", a non-denominational nazified outlook on god beliefs, often described as predominately based on creationist and deistic views[22]) and 1.5% atheist. According to Evans, those members of the affiliation gottgläubig "were convinced Nazis who had left their Church at the behest of the Party, which had been trying since the mid 1930s to reduce the influence of Christianity in society".[23] Heinrich Himmler, who was fascinated with Germanic paganism,[citation needed] was a strong promoter of the gottgläubig movement and didn't allow atheists into the SS, arguing that their "refusal to acknowledge higher powers" would be a "potential source of indiscipline".[24] The majority of the three million Nazi Party members continued to pay their church taxes and register as either Roman Catholic or Evangelical Protestant Christians.[25][/b]

Its funny how you dishonestly ignored the first part of it and quoted the second and las part to make your point

An atheist refused to let atheists into the country but let religionists through? What does that tell you?

Its funny how you dishonestly ignored the first part of it and quoted the second and las part to make your point

Again i say that you seem to have assimilation issues. For your sake i will post the first and the second part and i will even explain it to you.

[b]In Germany during the Nazi era, a 1933 decree stated that "No National Socialist may suffer detriment... on the ground that he does not make any religious profession at all".[15] However, the regime strongly opposed "godless communism",[16][17] and all of Germany's atheist and largely left-wing freethought organizations were banned the same year; some right-wing groups were tolerated by the Nazis until the mid-1930s.[18][19] During negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordat of April 26, 1933 Hitler stated that "Secular schools can never be tolerated" because of their irreligious tendencies.[20] Hitler routinely disregarded this undertaking, and the Reich concordat as a whole and by 1939, all Catholic denominational schools had been disbanded or converted to public facilities.[21]

In a speech made later in 1933, Hitler claimed to have "stamped out" the Gottlosenbewegung atheistic movement.[15] The word Hitler used, "Gottlosenbewegung", means "Godless Movement" in German, and refers to the communist freethought movement, though might not refer to atheism in general. The historian Richard J. Evans wrote that, by 1939, 95% of Germans still called themselves Protestant or Catholic, while 3.5% were so called "gottgläubig" (lit. "believers in god", a non-denominational nazified outlook on god beliefs, often described as predominately based on creationist and deistic views[22]) and 1.5% atheist. According to Evans, those members of the affiliation gottgläubig "were convinced Nazis who had left their Church at the behest of the Party, which had been trying since the mid 1930s to reduce the influence of Christianity in society".[23] Heinrich Himmler, who was fascinated with Germanic paganism,[citation needed] was a strong promoter of the gottgläubig movement and didn't allow atheists into the SS, arguing that their "refusal to acknowledge higher powers" would be a "potential source of indiscipline".[24] The majority of the three million Nazi Party members continued to pay their church taxes and register as either Roman Catholic or Evangelical Protestant Christians.[25][/b]

Again i say that you seem to have assimilation issues. For your sake i will post the first and the second part and i will even explain it to you.

[b]In Germany during the Nazi era, a 1933 decree stated that "No National Socialist may suffer detriment... on the ground that he does not make any religious profession at all".[15] However, the regime strongly opposed "godless communism",[16][17] and all of Germany's atheist and largely left-wing freethought organizations were banned the same year; some right-wing groups were tolerated by the Nazis until the mid-1930s.[18][19] During negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordat of April 26, 1933 Hitler stated that "Secular schools can never be tolerated" because of their irreligious tendencies.[20] Hitler routinely disregarded this undertaking, and the Reich concordat as a whole and by 1939, all Catholic denominational schools had been disbanded or converted to public facilities.[21]

In a speech made later in 1933, Hitler claimed to have "stamped out" the Gottlosenbewegung atheistic movement.[15] The word Hitler used, "Gottlosenbewegung", means "Godless Movement" in German, and refers to the communist freethought movement, though might not refer to atheism in general. The historian Richard J. Evans wrote that, by 1939, 95% of Germans still called themselves Protestant or Catholic, while 3.5% were so called "gottgläubig" (lit. "believers in god", a non-denominational nazified outlook on god beliefs, often described as predominately based on creationist and deistic views[22]) and 1.5% atheist. According to Evans, those members of the affiliation gottgläubig "were convinced Nazis who had left their Church at the behest of the Party, which had been trying since the mid 1930s to reduce the influence of Christianity in society".[23] Heinrich Himmler, who was fascinated with Germanic paganism,[citation needed] was a strong promoter of the gottgläubig movement and didn't allow atheists into the SS, arguing that their "refusal to acknowledge higher powers" would be a "potential source of indiscipline".[24] The majority of the three million Nazi Party members continued to pay their church taxes and register as either Roman Catholic or Evangelical Protestant Christians.[25][/b]

the second part explains the first part. Now readd it again.

[size=20pt] AN "ATHEIST" REFUSED "ATHEISTS" ENTRY INTO THE COUNTRY BUT LET RELIGIONISTS THROUGH? WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? [/size]

Your link is a repetition of the first one basically. Let me post it here for you so you can see how indeed you have assimilation issues.

[b]On October 13, 1933, Deputy Führer Rudolf Hess issued a decree stating: "No National Socialist may suffer any detriment on the ground that he does not profess any particular faith or confession or on the ground that he does not make any religious profession at all."[169] However, the regime strongly opposed "godless communism"[170][171] and all of Germany's freethinking (freigeist), atheist, and largely left-wing organizations were banned the same year.[172][173]

In a speech made during the negotiations for the Nazi-Vatican Concordant of 1933, Hitler argued against secular schools, stating: "Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith."[174] One of the groups closed down by the Nazi regime was the German Freethinkers League. Christians appealed to Hitler to end anti-religious and anti-Church propaganda promulgated by Free Thinkers,[175] and within Hitler's Nazi Party some atheists were quite vocal in their anti-Christian views, especially Martin Bormann.[176] Heinrich Himmler, who himself was fascinated with Germanic paganism,[177] was a strong promoter of the gottgläubig movement and didn't allow atheists into the SS, arguing that their "refusal to acknowledge higher powers" would be a "potential source of indiscipline".[21][/b]

You do not even wish to learn. You are keen on attack alone. smh . So you agree you are an Olodo

Learn what? I've dedicated part of the last few months digging up things about Hitler

Don't get it twisted, he was a Christian but the hypocrisy of guys like you is what I'm here to lay bare

If Hitler had done good, there would be no talks of him not being a Christian

Now that he's bad, he's not a "Christian" you'll now start defining a "Christian" as "Christlike"

If we accept that definition, then we can't "know" who a Christian is

But your brothers were quick to call bill gates a Christian, even saying the richest people in the world are "Christians"

I'm sure if somewhere down the line, Bill gates turns bad, guys like you would say he was never a Christian

Hitler's ideas of Christianity was it being under Nazi, He wanted a unified church and was against atheism

The thing about atheism is that barely anyone is ready to die for it, I am not ready to die for atheism since we don't have a mythical heaven that we'll go to so most atheists were already almost wiped out towards the end of Hitlers reign, those that were quick to identify as religionists, those that went to exile and those that hid

Your link is a repetition of the first one basically. Let me post it here for you so you can see how indeed you have assimilation issues.

[b]On October 13, 1933, Deputy Führer Rudolf Hess issued a decree stating: "No National Socialist may suffer any detriment on the ground that he does not profess any particular faith or confession or on the ground that he does not make any religious profession at all."[169] However, the regime strongly opposed "godless communism"[170][171] and all of Germany's freethinking (freigeist), atheist, and largely left-wing organizations were banned the same year.[172][173]

In a speech made during the negotiations for the Nazi-Vatican Concordant of 1933, Hitler argued against secular schools, stating: "Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith."[174] One of the groups closed down by the Nazi regime was the German Freethinkers leagueChristians appealed to Hitler to end anti-religious and anti-Church propaganda promulgated by Free Thinkers,[175] and within Hitler's Nazi Party some atheists were quite vocal in their anti-Christian views, especially Martin Bormann.[176][/color] Heinrich Himmler, who himself was fascinated with Germanic paganism,[177] was a strong promoter of the gottgläubig movement and didn't allow atheists into the SS, arguing that their "refusal to acknowledge higher powers" would be a "potential source of indiscipline".[21][/b]

Learn what? I've dedicated part of the last few months digging up things about Hitler

Don't get it twisted, he was a Christian but the hypocrisy of guys like you is what I'm here to lay bare

If Hitler had done good, there would be no talks of him not being a Christian

Now that he's bad, he's not a "Christian" you'll now start defining a "Christian" as "Christlike"

If we accept that definition, then we can't "know" who a Christian is

But your brothers were quick to call bill gates a Christian, even saying the richest people in the world are "Christians"

I'm sure if somewhere down the line, Bill gates turns bad, guys like you would say he was never a Christian

Hitler's ideas of Christianity was it being under Nazi, He wanted a unified church and was against atheism

The thing about atheism is that barely anyone is ready to die for it, I am not ready to die for atheism since we don't have a mythical heaven that we'll go to so most atheists were already almost wiped out towards the end of Hitlers reign, those that were quick to identify as religionists, those that went to exile and those that hid

You said you had links that clearly show Hitler persecuted Atheists and posted them. I have shown your falsehood to you on the same links you produced. Now you suddenly jump and shout with this present post that Hitler was not an Atheist.

You said you had links that clearly show Hitler persecuted Atheists and posted them. I have shown your falsehood to you on the same links you produced. Now you suddenly jump and shout with this present post that Hitler was not an Atheist.

Are you confused or just slow?

I want to believe you are one or the other.

Read my last post before this professor

He closed down an atheist group and used the place for something totally different

The trap is laid down pretty well, you're at the edge but you'll only know when you fall into it

I think you need to go and evaluate yourself because you clearly without a shadow of doubt have assimilation problems and just might have a short attention span.

Your free thinkers League has already bee explained here earlier and i clearly highlighted it for you when i did.

[b]In a speech made later in 1933, Hitler claimed to have "stamped out" the Gottlosenbewegung atheistic movement.[15] The word Hitler used, "Gottlosenbewegung", means "Godless Movement" in German, and refers to the communist freethought movement, though might not refer to atheism in general. The historian Richard J. Evans wrote that, by 1939, 95% of Germans still called themselves Protestant or Catholic, while 3.5% were so called "gottgläubig" (lit. "believers in god", a non-denominational nazified outlook on god beliefs, often described as predominately based on creationist and deistic views[22]) and 1.5% atheist. According to Evans, those members of the affiliation gottgläubig "were convinced Nazis who had left their Church at the behest of the Party, which had been trying since the mid 1930s to reduce the influence of Christianity in society".[23] Heinrich Himmler, who was fascinated with Germanic paganism,[citation needed] was a strong promoter of the gottgläubig movement and didn't allow atheists into the SS, arguing that their "refusal to acknowledge higher powers" would be a "potential source of indiscipline".[24] The majority of the three million Nazi Party members continued to pay their church taxes and register as either Roman Catholic or Evangelical Protestant Christians.[25][/b]

I think you need to go and evaluate yourself because you clearly without a shadow of doubt have assimilation problems and just might have a short attention span.

Your free thinkers League has already bee explained here earlier and i clearly highlighted it for you when i did.

[b]In a speech made later in 1933, Hitler claimed to have "stamped out" the Gottlosenbewegung atheistic movement.[15] The word Hitler used, "Gottlosenbewegung", means "Godless Movement" in German, and refers to the communist freethought movement, though might not refer to atheism in general. The historian Richard J. Evans wrote that, by 1939, 95% of Germans still called themselves Protestant or Catholic, while 3.5% were so called "gottgläubig" (lit. "believers in god", a non-denominational nazified outlook on god beliefs, often described as predominately based on creationist and deistic views[22]) and 1.5% atheist. According to Evans, those members of the affiliation gottgläubig "were convinced Nazis who had left their Church at the behest of the Party, which had been trying since the mid 1930s to reduce the influence of Christianity in society".[23] Heinrich Himmler, who was fascinated with Germanic paganism,[citation needed] was a strong promoter of the gottgläubig movement and didn't allow atheists into the SS, arguing that their "refusal to acknowledge higher powers" would be a "potential source of indiscipline".[24] The majority of the three million Nazi Party members continued to pay their church taxes and register as either Roman Catholic or Evangelical Protestant Christians.[25][/b]

He closed down an atheist group and used the place for something totally different

Do you know what the role of Hitlers Bureau of Church matters was? Their role was to ensure all churches and religious persons pay a church or religious tax or levy and if you refuse then you must sign an undertaking that you are not a religious person. The purpose of this is to drastically reduce the power and influence of religion or Christianity in the society.

[size=15pt]The German Freethinkers League ('Deutscher Freidenkerbund') was an organisation founded in 1881 by the materialist philosopher and physician Ludwig Büchner[1] to oppose the power of the state churches in Germany.[2] Its aim was to provide a public meeting-ground and forum for materialist and atheist thinkers in Germany.

By 1885 the group had 5,000 members.[1] The first organization of its sort founded in Germany, by 1930 the German Freethinkers League had a membership numbering some 500,000.[citation needed] The League was closed down in the spring of 1933, when Hitler outlawed all atheistic and freethinking groups in Germany. Freethinkers Hall, the national headquarters of the League, was then converted to a bureau advising the public on church matters.[3][/size]

Bros, if buhari closes all chruches and used them for atheists meetings, is that not persecution?

The bolded was why i asked if you even know what the role of the German Bureau on Church matters represents. You think its a church or a church meeting place? OLODO

Its for the enforcement of Church taxes and levies and registration of defaulters and ensuring they do not partake in religious activities. If they are caught secretly carrying out religious activities without paying their levies or taxes then its off to Auschwitz concentration camp with you.

The bolded was why i asked if you even know what the role of the German Bureau on Church matters represents. You think its a church or a church meeting place? OLODO

Its for the enforcement of Church taxes and levies and registration of defaulters and ensuring they do not partake in religious activities. If they are caught secretly carrying out religious activities without paying their levies or taxes then its off to Auschwitz concentration camp with you.

Maybe you should know what you're talking about before spewing things.

Maybe you should know what you're talking about before spewing things.

You're closer

And when you do fall in, its YOUR OWN words that'll settle it

Lol chai this guy is so far from comprehending anything. A freethinker is one who forms opinions (usually in the context of religion) on the basis of reason independent of authority. He/She is not necessarily an atheist, agnostic, or anti-religion.

Per your screengrab i think you need to find out for yourself what the german Bureau on church matters was all about before you exhibit your ignorance. My convo with you is done. I just gave you a few more posts for sake of courtesy as you cannot grasp or assimilate the simplest of discussions not even when you own the links and gave them to me.

Lol chai this guy is so far from comprehending anything. A freethinker is one who forms opinions (usually in the context of religion) on the basis of reason independent of authority. He/She is not necessarily an atheist, agnostic, or anti-religion.

Per your screengrab i think you need to find out for yourself what the german Bureau on church matters was all about before you exhibit your ignorance. My convo with you is done. I just gave you a few more posts for sake of courtesy as you cannot grasp or assimilate the simplest of discussions not even when you own the links and gave them to me.

This is hilarious

You were almost there and now you run away? Seems you have seen the trap from a mile off

Maybe you should find out what is about but not from Christian apologists websites

The screenshot; That's a newspaper bro

The ONLY book you took all your quotes from has been found to be not trustworthy by scholars, lots and lots of questions

Not one scriptural quote from the Bible by him to back up his claims! What then? He never quoted any part as an inspiration to his actions, what then?

Anyone can say these things! Just last week a muslim on facebook claimed that because muslims wore beards they were the real Christians!!! . Also, not one single scriptural quote by him, to back that claim!

he is behaving like winner01 because that guy never quotes from the bible and he is a so called christian so winner01 and adolf hitler are the same people different times