Angels lineup is scary, but they need to make a move for another arm, because unless Hanson returns to form I do not like their staff after Weaver.

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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.

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Eh, I always believe in ranking the elite hitting prospects over the pitching prospects. Much less health risk involved

I feel like there is a lot of reaching with Profar. Anytime there is a young SS who can hit at all, the scouts just lose their ****. The success rate on those I just feel isn't that great. Most either end up not hitting enough or have to move positions. Is Profar going to start back in AA?

I feel like there is a lot of reaching with Profar. Anytime there is a young SS who can hit at all, the scouts just lose their ****. The success rate on those I just feel isn't that great. Most either end up not hitting enough or have to move positions. Is Profar going to start back in AA?

He has all the tools in the world and the production to back it up. Throw in positional value and of course he's going to be hyped. He'll probably go to AAA.

No I personally don't know how to calculate it but I know how it's calculated and it's a good stat to use. You like OPS+ right? wRC+ is basically the same thing but better because everything is weighted more correctly. Regardless I know what the baselines are for using these stats also and they help tell the story more correctly.

No I personally don't know how to calculate it but I know how it's calculated and it's a good stat to use. You like OPS+ right? wRC+ is basically the same thing but better because everything is weighted more correctly. Regardless I know what the baselines are for using these stats also and they help tell the story more correctly.

How do you know that they tell the story more correctly when you don't know how they are calculating the story? How do you know it's weighted more correctly? Of course when you rank the top 30 players by wRC+ you are going to get all the best players in the league, but same thing with OPS+. And I'm guessing you've only seen Profar in the minors maybe once or twice, if at all, so you don't even have a personal view to compare it to.

I don't really understand what your point is here, Jug. Why are you trying to harp on wRC+ and Profar in general?

Nothing about Profar in particular. I was jsut agreeing with D-Unit that I think he might be a tad overhyped. All these shortstops get overhyped and rarely live up to it. I just don't think a strong team like Texas should rush him. No need to. And I'm really just busting GF's ball about wRC+ because I knew he had no idea how to calculate it. Rarely anyone does. Its just the newest and coolest number people try to be the first to throw around on the internet. Everyone trying to use a different "best" way to quantify baseball when they have no idea how any of it is calculated.

SS's and catcher's get overhyped usually because of how weak the production is at those positions

keep in mind to, these rankings take into account defensive ability. A very good defensive SS who can swing the bat will be very high on prospect lists, considering SS is a premium defensive position. Same goes with catcher

A toolsy OFer is a dime a dozen in the minors. A SS who can field and can hit for average and at least average power + steal bases at an above average rate is pretty rare, hence why they would be so highly ranked

Nothing about Profar in particular. I was jsut agreeing with D-Unit that I think he might be a tad overhyped. All these shortstops get overhyped and rarely live up to it. I just don't think a strong team like Texas should rush him. No need to. And I'm really just busting GF's ball about wRC+ because I knew he had no idea how to calculate it. Rarely anyone does. Its just the newest and coolest number people try to be the first to throw around on the internet. Everyone trying to use a different "best" way to quantify baseball when they have no idea how any of it is calculated.

It's just based off of wOBA, which weights OBP on a heavier scale than slugging percentage. It's not exactly a complicated stat.

SS's and catcher's get overhyped usually because of how weak the production is at those positions

keep in mind to, these rankings take into account defensive ability. A very good defensive SS who can swing the bat will be very high on prospect lists, considering SS is a premium defensive position. Same goes with catcher

A toolsy OFer is a dime a dozen in the minors. A SS who can field and can hit for average and at least average power + steal bases at an above average rate is pretty rare, hence why they would be so highly ranked

I obviously get all that. I'd just rank Bundy and Myers over him. I'll take the power pitcher or the 40 HRs, but that's just me. I also think people drool over the Rangers now so a lot of their prospects are overhyped.

I think Profar is the real deal, but I've never been sold on Mike Olt or Martin Perez. At least Perez stock seems to be fading. Dude's K rate has just dipped with every jump he's made. Not a good trend

Nothing about Profar in particular. I was jsut agreeing with D-Unit that I think he might be a tad overhyped. All these shortstops get overhyped and rarely live up to it. I just don't think a strong team like Texas should rush him. No need to. And I'm really just busting GF's ball about wRC+ because I knew he had no idea how to calculate it. Rarely anyone does. Its just the newest and coolest number people try to be the first to throw around on the internet. Everyone trying to use a different "best" way to quantify baseball when they have no idea how any of it is calculated.

I've been quoting it for like 3 years now so this isn't a new development. Like I said I know how it's calculated and what goes into it. It doesn't matter that I can't sit at my computer and do it myself though. I know the basis behind the stat and using logic I like how it's calculated.

As for Profar yeah I've only actually seen him play a few times but what does that mean? We all go off scouting reports and stats for minor leaguers. How do you know Myers will hit 40 HR's? when you've only seen him once or twice. Oh right, the same way I like what Profar has done.