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I don't think the "OP fanbase" is anywhere in particular. We're talking about the most popular ongoing entertainment series in Japan. The fanbase is everywhere. It mostly depends on the individual games and how attractive they look to the general audience.

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I don't think the "OP fanbase" is anywhere in particular. We're talking about the most popular ongoing entertainment series in Japan. The fanbase is everywhere. It mostly depends on the individual games and how attractive they look to the general audience.

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Audience is not there. Western sales are important for these series as well. Naruto games are million sellers yet sell <200k in Japan. In fact UNS3 has shipped 2 million. 1 million NA, 750k in EU and 250k in JP.

While it's hard to predict what a Wii U version of those games would sell, didn't the Naruto Wii games published by Tomy on GCN do pretty decently in Japan? Those games were also well received in the West yet Ubi nor Namco ever bothered on Wii U with their current PS3/360 Naruto games. Even Budokai did o.k on Wii.

Edit - I can't see a Naruto game perform worse than Unlimited Red did above.

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Audience is not there. Western sales are important for these series as well. Naruto games are million sellers yet sell <200k in Japan. In fact UNS3 has shipped 2 million. 1 million NA, 750k in EU and 250k in JP.

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I don't think the "OP fanbase" is anywhere in particular. We're talking about the most popular ongoing entertainment series in Japan. The fanbase is everywhere. It mostly depends on the individual games and how attractive they look to the general audience.

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While it's hard to predict what a Wii U version of those games would sell, didn't the Naruto Wii games published by Tomy on GCN do pretty decently in Japan? Those games were also well received in the West yet Ubi nor Namco ever bothered on Wii U with their current PS3/360 Naruto games. Even Budokai did o.k on Wii.

Edit - I can't see a Naruto game perform worse than Unlimited Red did above.

While it's hard to predict what a Wii U version of those games would sell, didn't the Naruto Wii games published by Tomy on GCN do pretty decently in Japan? Those games were also well received in the West yet Ubi nor Namco ever bothered on Wii U with their current PS3/360 Naruto games. Even Budokai did o.k on Wii.

Edit - I can't see a Naruto game perform worse than Unlimited Red did above.

No publisher is going to look at Wii iterations as a prediction on how a WiiU game will do lol.

Secondly as I said near 90% of sales come from the West and the WiiU is not only selling at a snails pace but is also doing poorly in third party software sales. I'm sure Namco can clearly see the sales of OP:UWR.

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It all depends on what Bamco would use the system board for Tekken7. As for Tekken6 and Gundam series SYSTEM357 and 369 (PS3-compatible) system boards were used even though they have PC-based systems as well. If their new arcade system is PS4-based and not based on existing System ES1 (a PC-compatible system, and I know they are both X64 but still) then their support for PS4 should be a lock.

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Considering they have only shipped 1.3 million 3DSs worldwide during first two quarters it's pretty weird if they still had so much stock left in west. Just how big overshipment that holiday season was last year.

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It all depends on what Bamco would use the system board for Tekken7. As for Tekken6 and Gundam series SYSTEM357 and 369 (PS3-compatible) system boards were used even though they have PC-based systems as well. If their new arcade system is PS4-based and not based on existing System ES1 (a PC-compatible system, and I know they are both X64 but still) then their support for PS4 should be a lock.

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hey man, if that's the way you feel that's the way you feel but i didn't say that

I was going to ask if there was potential for some fallout after this, but looking at those sales figures ... lol. It doesn't seem like the game is bad, so much as to some it felt unneeded. Maybe this reception will encourage more companies to release append versions of the expansions as DLC/low cost retail. It's not a new concept but it's not a popular one either.

There's now 700 reviews on Amazon. Do you really think the game's 2-star rating is just the result of bitter PlayStation owners? We are in 2014, MH on Nintendo isn't a shocker. You can look at the ratings for the other Nintendo entries: Tri, Tri G, 4. MH4G's worse than all of those.

Obviously a group of 700 people isn't exactly major when you're dealing with a game that sells millions, but it'll be interesting to see how things play out for future hunting expansions. Are consumers starting to get tired of these annual releases? Will append versions become more common place? Will Capcom be too busy counting their money to care?

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There's now 700 reviews on Amazon. Do you really think the game's 2-star rating is just the result of bitter PlayStation owners? We are in 2014, MH on Nintendo isn't a shocker.

You can look at the ratings for the other Nintendo entries: Tri, Tri G, 4. MH4G's worse than all of those.

Obviously a group of 700 people isn't exactly major when you're dealing with a game that sells millions, but it'll be interesting to see how things play out for future hunting expansions. Are consumers starting to burnout with these annual releases? Will append versions become more common place? Will Capcom be too busy counting their money to care?

I remember the Amazon reviews for when Professor Layton did the platform switch:

It is unacceptable that this new layton game is only available for NDS3D, I refuse to go out and buy a new console to be able to pay a new layton game or any other game that is only available for the 3d model DS. Why is it not available/compatiable for the older models? It this a way to force people to go out and buy a new console, if so I think it is disgusting!

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To be clear my comment was not about Monster Hunter in particular, but more about lacking a good quality barometer for games in general since Amazon reviews are mostly useless and Famitsu is definitely useless.

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I thought the digital stores (PSN? eShop?) had a rating system that required purchase before rating, but could be wrong. Although the sample may not be representative, since it's purely digital purchasers.

To be clear my comment was not about Monster Hunter in particular, but more about lacking a good quality barometer for games in general since Amazon reviews are mostly useless and Famitsu is definitely useless.

Quality affects sales, through word-of-mouth; examples are Demon's Souls (positively affected) and JoJo's Bizzarre Adventures: All Star Battle (negatively affected). I do feel that niche games tend to be affected more by positive word-of-mouth, since they have wider margins of improvement, while popular games tend to be more affected by negative word-of-mouth.

In any case, a game that Takao clearly likes to point out as terrible, i.e. Attack on Titan, received strong word-of-mouth and went to sell 300k, starting from about 90k units in the first week, so who knows.

I thought the digital stores (PSN? eShop?) had a rating system that required purchase before rating, but could be wrong. Although the sample may not be representative, since it's purely digital purchasers.