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I had started watching Horizon, on the middle of nowhere, but i'm just not getting the point of the story, and the more i watch it, the more i am distracted and barely follow the plot. The only reason i was watching it was for the guy groping boobs, but since even that's getting censored, i'm dropping it.

In Horizon, there's a little censorship in the first two episodes and episode 6, but the rest aren't censored (it has 13 episodes).

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Anyways, i finished episode 4 of Mirai nikki, and this anime is freaking me out: i thought it would have been some "let's fuck with the future" anime, but it's rather turning in some mad game.

As long as it plays with my mind, it's fine. That Yuno... is fucking scary. Really, i can't get myself to trust/like her at all. The whole plot is a bit confusing, and i currently have some question marks in my head, but i guess it'll be explained later on, like any other anime concerning past/future does.

Btw, if you can answer these few little questions, i would be grateful. Oh, if i'll get the answers later on, don't spoil then:

Spoiler for plot:

Every of those diary owners can predict a particular kind of future:
The first predicts what happens around him
The second predicts what happens to the first
The third... haha, gets owned in the beginning
The fourt can predict which crimes will take place
The sixt can predict events happening in a "far" future
The ninth can predict how she can escape
The twelfth is... mad? didn't really understand what he predicts

Anyways, each of them has its own. But what i don't really get is: if that Deus ex machina only existed in the mind of the First, then why it turns out that the Deus actually exists and is playing some mad games? Don't tell me this series ends up with a "Oh, the whole story was the protagonist's imagination, nothing of this happened ^O^", because that's the only explanation i can come to, at the moment.

Also, i always have to replay some scene, because the text messages scrolling is fucking fast. Wth, slow down, i can't read ;_;

However, so far, it was enough dark and mindfucking to pick up my interest. I just hope it clears out my confusion about it. Don't spoil anything about Yuno, because it's probably the most interest thing in this anime: she keeps freaking me out, haha, too weird.

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Forgot to ask: how the hell works the "DEAD END" thingie? I didn't really understand it. Care to explain?

I had started watching Horizon, on the middle of nowhere, but i'm just not getting the point of the story, and the more i watch it, the more i am distracted and barely follow the plot. The only reason i was watching it was for the guy groping boobs, but since even that's getting censored, i'm dropping it.

I agree with you.. but I praise the anime design though... all of the girls are hot and sexy.

The only thing that I don't get it is the choices of so called "offerings" which I find wierd (e.g. happiness, coins, food, "jumping months on the calendar" etc.). The prayers and dance are valid for me to be offered to a "holographic deity (?)

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Originally Posted by Classified Info

Dropped it already.

Anyways, i finished episode 4 of Mirai nikki, and this anime is freaking me out: i thought it would have been some "let's fuck with the future" anime, but it's rather turning in some mad game.

As long as it plays with my mind, it's fine. That Yuno... is fucking scary. Really, i can't get myself to trust/like her at all. The whole plot is a bit confusing, and i currently have some question marks in my head, but i guess it'll be explained later on, like any other anime concerning past/future does.

Btw, if you can answer these few little questions, i would be grateful. Oh, if i'll get the answers later on, don't spoil then:

Spoiler for plot:

Every of those diary owners can predict a particular kind of future:
The first predicts what happens around him
The second predicts what happens to the first
The third... haha, gets owned in the beginning
The fourt can predict which crimes will take place
The sixt can predict events happening in a "far" future
The ninth can predict how she can escape
The twelfth is... mad? didn't really understand what he predicts

Anyways, each of them has its own. But what i don't really get is: if that Deus ex machina only existed in the mind of the First, then why it turns out that the Deus actually exists and is playing some mad games? Don't tell me this series ends up with a "Oh, the whole story was the protagonist's imagination, nothing of this happened ^O^", because that's the only explanation i can come to, at the moment.

Also, i always have to replay some scene, because the text messages scrolling is fucking fast. Wth, slow down, i can't read ;_;

However, so far, it was enough dark and mindfucking to pick up my interest. I just hope it clears out my confusion about it. Don't spoil anything about Yuno, because it's probably the most interest thing in this anime: she keeps freaking me out, haha, too weird.

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Forgot to ask: how the hell works the "DEAD END" thingie? I didn't really understand it. Care to explain?

Answers:

Spoiler for No real spoilers if you've seen 4 episodes:

Yukki thought Deus was imaginary, turns out he is real.

Sixth's diary reveals the future as observed by her followers (ie it's as if all of her followers have the First diary, and she gets to read them all).
Third's diary revealed when and how he committed murders. Which you'd think would be pretty powerful in a game like this, but didn't turn out too well for him. (BTW did you catch that the 3rd was Yukki's math teacher?)
Twelve's diary seems to be an audio record of his heroic moments or something.

Basically each future diary seems to mirror what the user previously used their diary for. (Except for one player who gets revealed later).

DEAD END means that your future diary is predicting your death (thus no more entries to report). However, knowledge of that DEAD END allows the user to change that future and avoid it. Although of course that change could also cause you to run into another DEAD END.

Lets think about what that means for the diaries you've seen so far:

This means that 9th is really hard to take down. Her diary is defensive rather then offensive- but that allows her to take a lot of risks.

1st (and 6th) is also pretty decent at defense, but is a bit more flexible.

4th is decent at defense, not much at offense, but great at counter attacks.

3rd had the best offense but zero defense.

12th is probably primarily offense.

2nd is essentially good only for offense against 1st, or defense of 1st. Isn't that good news Yuki? Yuno has complete power over you.

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Anyways, i finished watching the first 12 episodes of Mirai nikki but... where is the rest of the series? How long is it? 24 episodes? I did some research, and found up to the 20th episode; does this mean that it hasn't finished airing yet? That sucks D:

Anyways, the whole series is so dark, filled with suspense and surprise, and an horrific feeling all the way. You don't know who to trust in there, everyone playing his own game, and Yuno... just picked up my interest too much. Actually, that isn't even love; i'd call it obsession. However, this character is so much screwed and freak, haha, definitely interesting.

I liked it so far, but if i knew before that it hadn't finished airing, i'd have waited. Now all the tension accumulated in these 12 episodes will be tore apart. That sucks hard. For all the 12 episodes i've been put on spikes: everyone plotting and attacking you, a freak girl obsessed with you, noone to trust and just no idea about what's going on, being dragged in the worst situations ever and surviving by you don't know what. The growing tension, with not even a second of pause to relax out... it's that what kept me watching it without making me fall asleep. But now that we have come to this, i hereby proclaim once again: this sucks. I want it now ;_;

Spoiler for story:

I just want to know what the fuck is up with Yuno: is she just a weak minded girl with no friends that found an obsession in this kind boy? Why does she hide corpses in her house? What's up with her freak attitude (Like when she's killing and smiling), what kind of abilities does she posses to kill 6 SWAT soldiers with a revolver? What's up with her going out of control and go berserk. Also, why is she so calm and cynical when she kills? She didn't even feel pity when she killed the Fifth, that was a kid.

Don't get me wrong: i've listed a series of characteristics that would make me look like i was blaming her, but that's not it. I mean, i'm not like "How can she kill a kid without feeling pity sniff sniff ;_;", but rather "She killed him without pity: you picked up my interest, you girl". No no, i'm not some maniac killer xD, it's just that her behaviour picked up my interest, and you have to admit that she's very mysterious.

If the remaining episodes are going to take too much time before they get aired, i'll might want to continue the story on the manga, but i would like to know:
1) Are there big differences between the manga and the anime?
2) Does the anime skip TOO MANY IMPORTANT informations, compared to the manga?
3) How much of the manga does the anime cover? If i wanted to continue the story after episode 12, from which manga chapter should i start? Do you suggest me to start the manga from the beginning anyways, even tho i already know the story up to now?

I hope you can answer these 3 questions, at least. Thank you for suggesting me this title: it's really freaking me out, and i like when my mind is being played with.

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My understanding is that there are expected to be between 24 and 26 episodes, probably closer to 24 considering how far they've gotten by episode 20. I comes out every Sunday, so it will probably be done first week of April?

So far the anime has proven to be a very faithful adaptation of the manga. Several scenes I thought were even an improvement (especially at fixing plot holes). The anime also includes some supplemental material from the spin-offs that focused on Akise and 9th.

If you do decide to read the manga I would go ahead and start at the beginning anyway. Although the manga ending was really unpopular, and that has been some hope that the anime will turn our different.

I won't spoil the Yuno reveals, except to say that they are pretty big twists, and should be covered by the story later.

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This is what i call a mindfuck: the whole story was fucking crazy, it turned darker and darker and darker... my mind was blown away. It had countless twists, new discoveries.... I really appreciate the dude who wrote this manga, for playing with my mind the whole time, and making up this story. I like things that entertain my mind and make me exercise my thoughts.

This is the darkest thing i've ever seen, so dark that it even screws up the concept of dark. Madoka, compared to this, is pure white.

As i thought, Yuno was indeed the most interesting character, and i liked all that messing up with time, parallel worlds, other selves and all that shit. This title fits the definition of mindfuck, even tho i do not understand how they will cover the remaining story in 12 episodes, since it's just too long.

Thank you for suggesting me this title. It was a plain success. I would consider it too much dark for my tastes, but since there was much mindfucking, the concept of dark fell apart while reading the manga.

hey classified seems like your taste in anime recently have been psychological,horror,thriller,mystery type anime. if you want I can give you more of those ? I think it would be best to create another thread like with those genres so that way if you're not in the mood for romance anime you can try the other genres a try. I also think it would be good Idea to post a link to that thread in this threads front page so that way it's much easier going back and forth and it keeps both threads alive.

I donít know about ďanotherĒ but the rest of the titles I mentioned due include some love interest but donít expect it to be the most important part of the anime or the most exciting. I mentioned these titles because the ts seems to like stuff that messes with his mind or gives him the feeling of mindfuck.

If you truly enjoy a mindfuck I would recommend Serial Experiments Lain

Synopsis:Lain Iwakura appears to be an ordinary girl, with almost no experience with computers. Yet the sudden suicide of a schoolmate, and a number of strange occurrences, conspire to pull Lain into the world of the Wired, where she gradually learns that nothing is what it seems to be... not even Lain herself.

If I would have to choose one of the mentioned titles that would fit most of classifieds requirements it would be death note.I found it more enjoyable

1.does it have a kiss scene?yes
2.is the male smart and rational?yes
3.does it have an interesting plot?yes
4.is the anime made after 2003?yes 2006
5.is there mecha?no
6. is the setting in school?yes a little bit

I just want you to watch The Sacred Blacksmith : this anime is targeted towards you (= males from older teens to young adults), so it has some fanservice (including pantyshots and bare breasts) and has lot of female characters, including the protagonist. And the male lead is a total badass. It's better to read the light novel (or its manga adaptation) because the protagonist (Cecily) is more likeable and less aggressive than her anime counterpart. All three versions (novel, manga and anime) has likeable characters, good fight scenes and a greatly developped romance. The only con about the anime is the terrible ending which might dissapoints you, but it's still great.

EDIT : Also, you might create two new suggestion threads, as suggested by tolido : the romance manga/novel-only thread and the mindf*ck dark anime thread (with or without romance between the titles).

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I am new here but im going to give some opinions on some manga/animes some people already told you about:

The Sacred Blacksmith
The anime is good, but the ending let me down.
The manga follows the LN faithfully and it blows the anime away.obs.
-protag is badass, serious personality, dark past.
-female protag becomes badass, matures along the story
-fights are amazing.

ano natsu de matteru
You WILL enjoy this. I guarantee.obs.
-nah, dont wanna spoil it. it has most of what you want. A lot.

Zero no Tsukaima f
Well, what can i say. it has the same feeling as the others, and both protagonists relation becomes very cute and funny (well it already was).obs.
-You know the drill. since you saw the others.

Highschool DxD
I'm not watching the anime, due to the excessiveness of bouncing boobs.
Sorry i'd rather get a good plot (well it does follow the LN and the story IS good. and it's not that i don't like boobs, just... Damn. YOU might enjoy it alot.)obs.
-Bouncing Boob Paradise
-Weak protag gets strong, has a secret and a personality wich later makes the girls fall for him (for a reason).

Maji de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai!!
uh... it is good. it's fun, but the end was... kinda weak.
VN is heaps better, and it has a group translating it (route per route, has 4/5 main routes done and some side routes)obs.
-protag is a genius badass hentai. and That's GOOD.
-one of the girls has a different personality from the origial (VN)
-it's fun.

Sword Art Online
Yes i am a fanboy. It's EXCELENT. (the LN. the manga doesn't seems good. but i am waiting for the anime)obs.
-Badass protag. smart, lonewolf, thinks fast, kind of lazy. the girls like him for a reason. and he develops a relationship with one.
-female protag(s) all badass in their own way. They are not the "weak omg protect me" or "excessive tsundere". They have very good personalities.
-Story goes dark very often, but it's not depressive. It's still a kickass plot, but not thaaaaat original( awesome though)
-it tries to be realistic by giving small explanations about some aspects of the game they play/the fights/ the tecnology of the world they live.

Darker Than Black
Almost perfect. all it needed is... not to end.
the romance is VERY LIGHT, but it exists.iobs.
-protag. is kinda... the definition of black coat badass.
-plot is kinda complex and original.
-the fights and powers. Are amazing.
-The story is based on logic. If something happens, if someone does something, expect a goooood reason for it to happen.

These are MY opinions, but after reading your request i found myself similar to you in SOME points (not that strong romance, but i like it, like mature-not-stupid protag and smart-girl-who-doesnt-fall-in-love-for-no-reason and a developing relationship. But i like lots of realistic serious action and plot.
These ones i talked about dont fully represent my taste. but i know them.

Ok, i have to make myself clear: the romance is a must. There must be an undergoing relation, some kind of "love" tension, anything hinting a love interest and the kind.

Mirai nikki started as a "normal" story with some fantasy elements:

Spoiler for plot:

The protagonist was a student, the plot was initially settled at school, and there was a cute girl interested in the protagonist. Up to now, everything is fine. Then the guy discovers that his cellphone shows him the future, and he's happy and exalted, and it looks like the plot will evolve through some kind of time-travelling novel, with some action, some romance and an happy ending.

That was what i thought initially. However, the protagonist started being assaulted because there were other people with a future diary, but it's ok, at least there is some kind of plot, some action, etc. But when the protagonist is involved with the 6th, the anime starts turning dark: Yuno just looks like some crazy killer, with killer eyes, no emotions when saying the word "let's kill her ^O^ who cares, we can be happy ^O^ kill", and she starts killing anyone in that temple. When the protagonist discovers those dead bodies in Yuno's house, i definitely understood that she was screwed. That was the only time, in a "romance" story, where i would have been scared by a girl.

From that moment on, the story just became dark: killing sprees, cut throats like nothing, shot anyone, run like a crazy, mad eyes, and the obsession for Yuki just made Yuno the most interesting and crazy part of this story. The protagonist was truly a failure, but Yuno, even being fucking scary, surely was the sole reason i continued reading/watching the manga/anime. I didn't even like her, and if i were the protagonist, i would have tried to escape her or take her out. Neither one moment i did think that the protagonist loved Yuno.

Anyways, after Yuki got kidnapped by Yuno, and forced to a chair, near the skulls of Yuno's parents, i definitely thought "She's just screwed, someone call the psychiatric department, please". Just what the hell? I seriously thought she had some split personality. Anyways, i didn't really like much how the story evolved from then on: for some time, Yuno & Yuki disappeared, and it was told the story from the pov of the other characters, but then the two protagonists show up, determined to win that "game": there is some action etc, and the fight against the 11th really looked like "the last boss battle", and i really loved the action in there. That wasn't the last battle tho:

Yuki fully joined the dark side by relentlessly killing his friends, who were trying to let him know that Yuno was crazy, but Yuki already knew it deep inside. The story from then on was rather scary: they indeed became one, during one night, but then Yuno started trying to kill Yuki with an axe (scary as always, Yuno, eh?), and the pursuit began. Then you discover that Yuno already had won that game and was replaying the story once again, and you start understanding why she was so crazy, but that doesn't still justify her actions. The last part of the story was a bit confusing or perhaps too much fast paced: leaping from a timeline to another, destroying some world and repairing another(Yuki saving the 3rd world Yuno), but up to that moment i was still putting my hopes in an happy ending: if you manage to win the game, you become God, so everyone you killed and the other horrible deeds you did will get resetted, so who cares, but it wasn't really that way, and that's why the series was dark. There was a message within tho: men are able to do anything when they are prompted with unlimited power: you'll relentlessly kill anyone in your way to become god, be it your friends or your lover.

However, in the end Yuno kills herself because she "loves" Yuki, and the latter becomes God. Then you discover that that was a manga written by god Yuki, lol? and that after 10k years, Yuno breaks in god yuki's place? what the hell? That was rather confusing, but it looked like an happy ending, since Yuno didn't seem to have any killing intent, even tho i'd be scared by her even being a god, haha.

So, in the end, Mirai nikki had the romance in it, there were kisses and much more, but for the ones knowing the story, you understand that that kind of romance is screwed. What made me like it was the mindfuck within, but it was only that. I was put into a situation where i had started a romance, and i was happy, but then that "romance" turned dark, and i'd have better dropped it; however, i couldn't do the latter, because the story was too much mysterious and interesting, and i had to continue it.

So don't get me wrong when i say that this show entertained me: it was just because i took the "romance" bait and was thrown in this crazy story. I may have interest in this kind of fucked up things, but that isn't the main purpose of this topic. I'm mainly looking for stories having some romance in it.

If the anime is very good, then I can accept the kind of romance that can be found in Welcome to the NHK, but only if the anime is objectively good.

As i stated before, i really wanted to watch Death Note, and i actually have it on my computer, but i never really started it because, some time ago, when it finished airing, everyone was spreading the word about

Spoiler for end:

L dying

and already knowing the end just killed any little interest i had in it. I planned on watching it anyways, but i'm aware i won't get the full surprise effect when it comes to that, so it's really low on my list. I would pay someone to remove that memory from my mind.

Ye, that's already on the list, and is actually the title that got the most chance of getting in my top10.

Anyways, finished watching Samurai Girls, and i found it pretty similar to Sekirei, but i liked more the latter probably because there was more... feeling? I don't know, but i still felt like the characters were somehow "distant" in this anime, no matter how many kisses and boobs they put in there. It was nonetheless enjoyable and had hugeloads of fanservice.

I'll now start Special A

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I noticed that i'm missing Mirai Nikki; at the beginning i thought i was just disturbed by how the story evolved, but now that i think about it, i really liked it and was interested in it. If you find any other manga like Mirai Nikki, with romance and much mindfuck, i would really be grateful.

If you find any other manga like Mirai Nikki, with romance and much mindfuck, i would really be grateful.

Those words alone reminds me of School Days that you hate, LOL .

Ok, seriously now. If you're looking for romance and mindfuck manga, go for Neon Genesis Evangelion manga. If you like what you read in that manga, go for the TV series, then The End of Evangelion movie (the true ending of the TV series). When you're done with that, go watch Rebuild of Evangelion movies starting from Evangelion 1.0: You are (not) Alone then Evangelion 2.0: You can (not) Advance. Have a nice journey .

I like the mindfuck as long as it doesn't get too sad like in school days; i mean, Mirai nikki was bloody and all, but the story was interesting, you had to deal with this crazy girl hiding corpses and doing weird stuff, and the protagonist wasn't a dick like makoto. I didn't like school days because the protagonist was disturbing and a douchebag, that was it.

Anyways, beside evangelion, isn't there anything else settled in the present and not some futuristic/past era with monster tecnologies and stuff?

Btw, i finished watching the first episode of Special A, but i'm getting the feeling of Kaicho wa maid sama, and i confirmed a thing: i truly can't enjoy an anime as long as the girl is the protagonist. I just fail at empathizing with the protagonist for obvious reasons. Also, why is every character so long legged ._., they rather look like stick figures or something.

I'll drop it for the moment, and start Karin. Let me know if i really should take SA back.

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Neon Genesis Evangelion is the only thing other one I can think of that is romance and mindscrew. Don't read the manga first. It was an anime original, so watch the original anime series.

Wait... there is one show... I guess maybe FLCL(Fooly Cooly), but that's just insane. Human beings cannot withstand the mindblender of FLCL without permanent damage. I only saw three episodes and I was in a coma for two days.

Don't read the manga first. It was an anime original, so watch the original anime series.

I really mean no harm/offense to you Sackett, but I think Classified Info is looking for romance first then mindfuck later. In that regard, Evangelion manga really suit it coz the romance in it is actually more prevalent than the TV anime. I also put into consideration that Classified Info generally donít like anime from the early 90s (Evangelion TV series is + from 1993). In addition, his original request was a romance-mindfuck manga, not anime. Once again, this is not a personal attack to you or your suggestion, Sackett. Your suggestion are still good. Classified Info can still choose your suggestion over mine anytime he wants .