Posted 4 years ago on July 10, 2012, 10:35 a.m. EST by factsrfun
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If we continue to bow at the altar of political correctness and never discuss money because that is just “not done” well I think this political correctness, and the keepers of what can and can’t be discussed (FOX news) are killing us.

They shout “class warfare” like true and faithful censors, dictating to America what is politically correct to talk about, well I guess if we are all broke we will be politely broke. We wouldn’t want to break the rules of political correctness.

"£13tn hoard hidden from taxman by global elite ; A global super-rich elite has exploited gaps in cross-border tax rules to hide an extraordinary £13 trillion ($21tn) of wealth offshore – as much as the American and Japanese GDPs put together – according to research commissioned by the campaign group Tax Justice Network.", by Heather Stewart : http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jul/21/global-elite-tax-offshore-economy .

From the very good first link provided above : "Few people advocate cuts in anti-poverty programs. Roughly 79 percent of Americans think the gap between rich and poor has grown in the past two decades, according to a Public Religion Research Institute/RNS Religion News survey from November 2011. The same poll found that about 67 percent oppose 'cutting federal funding for social programs that help the poor' to help reduce the budget deficit." !!

However the corporate captured congress continuously chooses to ignore The American 99% and I end ardently hoping that 'OWS' will seed and mobilise a 'Mass Movement of The US 99%', which will seek to redress the wrongs perpetrated upon Americans for so long. Work towards this has begun & goes on - irrespective of who 'wins' the faux (s)election' in November !!!

Food stamp program has been expanded to offset some of the damage done by "welfare reform" of the early 90's, but being part of the CEO class Romney and others like him could end the whole crisis by taking less and paying decant wages, but they won't decide to do that on their own, they will need some help seeing the wisdom of that path, I think. So your statement is just wrong, Romney and the other CEO’s are the most powerful and therefore most responsible people in the country.

Romney has taken 40 million out of the economy over the past two years as his cut just for well we're not sure, but one thing is certain he had no control over what his money has been doing so it sure wasn't for creating jobs. Now he could have taken less and there would be more say for someone who was working for the money, not doing a "no show" job like Romney was back in 1999=2002.

If he has earned 40 million, that is probably only about 2 or 3% (if that) of the money that went through the sausage factory and was paid to investors and people employed by the companies owned by the company. The vast majority of the money made helped the lot of millions of people from all walks of life.

That's like saying a lottery winner "earns" their money, I mean I guess in some twisted way you could say that, but in this case Romney is very clear about the fact that he did not earn it, he did nothing for the money haven't you heard?

he was not running the Olympics the past two years, he has been running for office, this is the time peroid I am talking about as that is the information he has decided to give us, so for the past two years he made 40 million while doing nothing but run for office, how did he do it and why should he pay so little in tax?

What he didn't do is use the force of the government to TAKE money from everyone to waste on the machinery of government. What he did was earn his money as well as a boatload of money for those whose companies he was able to turn around, the shareholders of those companies, and those who work for his company. How many are thriving because of the policies of the President?

President Obama has spent over 4 trillion dollars of money taken by force, at the point of a gun, from taxpayers. Romney has earned 40 million ( I will accept your number) from people who have chosen to give it to his company in return for a service.

and where the hell was you when Bush was sending us to Iraq running up that bill that has to be paid now, I say let those who befitted from that economy we boosted, the guys at the top with a 99% death tax after the first 5 million

people voted for Obama, in other words we agreed, no body vote for Romney he took it. But that is not the point the point is why does anybody get to make 40 million doing nothing and still pay less tax than people who work for a living.

WTF are Banking, Insurance, Healthcare and 'High Finance' Corporations doing other than 'Extracting' from individuals, families, 'sole traders', entrepreneurs, small companies, medium sized companies, big companies and even entire Nation States & when NOT being bailed-out by the long suffering, austerity impacted populace - are they actually paying their taxes ?!!!

What "choice" do I have but to deal with banks when it comes to 'money' and payments - especially as we all now slowly but almost inexorably move towards 'a cashless society' ?

What "choice" do Americans - babies, children, young people, the middle aged or the elderly really have if they fall ill but to deal with the "Insurance+Healthcare" Corporations ?!

What "choice" do Americans have but to deal with "High Finance Corporations" when it comes to their pensions & 401K's and given The Criminally Manipulated Interest Rates - but to deal with "High Finance Corporations" in order to seek some paltry return on their dwindling savings ?!!

Obomber's is simply The Emperor 'du nos jours & wasn't responsible for Iraq or Afghanistan & whoever gets to be POTUS in November -- Iran will still remain in The Empire's sights !!!

Perhaps you oppose all taxes and the very notion of taxation on ideological grounds but I would sooner my taxes went to Good Healthcare, Good Schools, Good Infrastructure, Good Public Utilities than for Illegal Wars and bailing-out Massive Private "TBTF" Businesses.

IF my allegedly democratic government would issue it's own currency and not subscribe to 'fiat debt based money' from a cartel of Private Banks & IF all The Corporations ("High Finance" or otherwise!) genuinely paid their correct taxes then maybe my and everyone else's taxes would be that much less.

We pay 'Sales Taxes' / 'Purchase Taxes' / 'Value Added Taxes' and a whole lot of other taxes on a multitude of goods, services and activities ... So WHY don't the "Banks & High Finance Corporations" pay a sliver of tax on 'Financial Transactions' (cf "Tobin Tax") ?!!

D'you think that 0.01%er 'Private Equity / Asset Stripper / Vulture Crapitalist' - 'Mittens Romulan' is going to change any of the above for the better by an iota ?! D'you really think that he gives a shit for the trials and tribulations of The 99% other than at (S)Election time ?!

Credit unions, private doctors, dread disease and high deductible medical insurance. There are many online stock brokers that charge very little to nothing to keep a IRA. I oppose taxation because there is no choice. There is no such thing as good government run medical care and it will only become worse as the population ages. As far as the too big to fail, they should have been allowed to fail. The private sector is a lot less of a danger than an over powerful government.

D'you oppose the very notion of 'Taxation' as a matter of principle or ideology ?

What's the impact on General Level of Taxation of the Costs of Imperial Wars & Foreign Bases as well as The Huge Levels of Corporate Tax Avoidance/Evasion across America & elsewhere ?

Re. "There is no such thing as good government run medical care" - Many millions of people around the world would disagree with you profoundly - from Canada, France, Germany, Holland, The Scandinavian Countries, The UK & (don't have a heart attack now!) even Cuba.

Where & how do ideas & notions about 'Democracy' factor into your disdain for "Government" ?

No, as long as the tax money collected is wisely spent and in line with the responsibility of the governmental agency that is doing the taxation.

Tax avoidance decreases and tax receipts increase as the taxation rate decreases. The fact of the matter is that the Progressive plan of taxation is more about punishing people who make money than it is about increasing the money available for government use.

Those who can afford to leave the government run health care to be treated at a private medical treatment center do and those who cannot often have to wait long periods of time for treatments that we are treated for quickly and that we take for granted.

I do have disdain for democracy. Democracy has always resulted in tyranny. Tyranny is no less tyrannical when 51% crush your liberty and freedom rather than a one dictator.

'Laffer Curve' thinking though now much discredited these days, could still apply to individuals but why are you so keen to do The Corporations bidding ?

No they don't. That's just US Private Healthcare Corporate Propaganda. Waiting is not a price that most people mind paying and the rich can as always do as they please. Healthcare Costs are the biggest reason for personal bankruptcy in The U$A.

Here we have the nub of the issues between us. I'm a 'Militant for Democracy', whereas you fear being "crushed". "Liberty and Freedom" ?!! From What ?! From 'want' ? From 'ignorance' ? From 'sickness and ill health' ? From 'a lonely and poverty stricken old age' ? Can you be free in such an environment even IF you have pots of cash ? Didn't your Momma teach you to share ? When you stumbled onto "this mortal coil", you still had an umbilical chord - when you stumble off, you don't even have that & to quote 'Maximus Decimus Meridius' - "what we do in this life echoes in eternity" !

I'm glad for you though someone more cruel than I may point out and take advantage of your inadvertent 'double entendre' !!

Laffer curve has not been discredited. There are people who wish to dismiss the argument because it flies in the face of their desire to raise taxes to redistribute the collected funds to equalize the outcome of people. The truth is, the people who have produced the money have that money taken to be redistributed to those who have the power to take the money (government employees). Then, the government employees (politicians) dribble a bit to those groups who rely on their dependence to buy votes. If the Laffer curve has no relationship to receipts collected, why not tax at 100%? If Laffer has no validity, why does Obama admit that raising the taxes is not about raising more money, but about "fairness"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4iy2OfScQE Laffer has not been discredited, his curve flies in the face of those who wish to take money from the producers for the purposes of redistribution.

As far as the shot about corporations bidding, why do you wish to do oppressive governments bidding?

Cancer patients don't mind waiting for tests and treatments? 80 year olds don't mind waiting to a hip replacement? Here in the United States, everyone can do as the please, not just "the rich".

If socialization of resources and work is so beneficial and preferable, why not form a socialistic colony and pool your efforts and funds amongst those who agree to live in a socialistic situation? If it is so good a thing, people will rush to live under that type of agreement.

Why does socialism have to be FORCED upon those who must suffer under its bonds? Why does it need to be forced? Socialism is not about sharing. Socialism is about taking and force and power. Force has echoed through eternity, freedom has always been crushed by those who wish to control the people and their lot in life. If you side with government, you side with the oppressor.

I really don't care. If that is all they got, let them pound it out. We both know what we were talking about, and we both know what was meant.

(1).We at least agree on the matter of the necessity of some level of Taxation in Society.

(2a). I'm not a turkey voting for thanksgiving and I too have a problem & a great degree of of discomfort with reference to The Onerous Taxation of 'Earned Income' which is generated from remuneration in exchange for work. The basic idea behind 'The Laffer Curve' precedes 'Arthur Laffer' and I try to see 'TLC' through the perspective of working people (people who rely on their salaries & wages) but I do NOT deem it equally applicable to The Corporations and 'Big Business' - irrespective of whether they see themselves as 'Legal Persons' or not.

(2b). The 'Laffer Curve' accepts that there is a notional optimal level of taxation to maximise tax receipts.The curve is most understandable at both extremes of income taxation - zero percent and one-hundred percent - where the government collects no revenue. At one extreme, a 0% tax rate means the government’s revenue is, of course, zero. At the other extreme, where there is a 100% tax rate, the government collects zero revenue because (in a “rational” economic model) taxpayers presumably change their behavior in response to the tax rate - either they have no incentive to work or they avoid paying taxes, so the government collects 100% of nothing. Somewhere between 0% and 100%, therefore, lies a tax rate percentage that will maximize revenue and be most 'efficient'.

(2c). I do not see 'TLC' as necessarily purely a 'Supply Side' Phenomenon. Some economists argue that while tax cuts are beneficial to the economy, they are beneficial for different reasons. Keynesian economics suggests that an increased government deficit - for instance, resulting from a tax cut - will stimulate economic output. This leads some to identify instances of ‘The Laffer Curve’ as periods of Keynesian demand stimulation.

(2e). The Privatising of Profit, Gain & Opportunity and the Simultaneous Socialisation & Nationalisation of Loss, Cost & Risk ; The Duplicity of Double-Entry Book-Keeping ; The Tyranny of Accountants and The Dark Despotism of Private Bankers, as well the massive levels of Tax Avoidance / Evasion by The 1% & The Corporations - should be beyond the endurance & tolerance of most fair minded & right thinking people.

(3).You seem to have an extremely dim view of 'Free At The Point Of Use', Universal Public Healthcare and frankly my brain is boggled by this. Again, I repeat : "Healthcare Costs are the biggest reason for personal bankruptcy in The U$A". The vast majority of Europeans from right across the political spectrum have enough belief & faith in 'Their Societies' to realise & believe that Universal Healthcare is fundamental to any notions of "civilised society". Risks are pooled and Resources allocated according to need but of course there are resource issues, especially with Bankster Induced Austerities - but the people are increasingly resisting and standing up for their services.

(4).You say "Here in the United States, everyone can do as the please, not just 'the rich'" - which once my head stops spinning, leads me to repeat : "I'm a 'Militant for Democracy', whereas you fear being "crushed". "Liberty and Freedom" ?!! From What ?! From 'want' ? From 'ignorance' ? From 'sickness and ill health' ? From 'a lonely and poverty stricken old age' ? Can you be free in such an environment even IF you have pots of cash ? Didn't your Momma teach you to share ?"

(5).You are right & yes, we did "both know what was meant" and I apologise for my childish dig :-)

Finally - WE, The 99%, Must Demand 'Perp-Walks' ; The Prosecution and The Exemplary Punishment of THE BA$TARD BANK$TER$ --- without which there can be NO Justice and therefore NO Peace.

BANKS GOT BAILED-OUT, THE 99% GOT SOLD OUT ! 'WARFARE' ABROAD, 'UNFAIR' AT HOME !! 'CARROT' FOR 1%, 'STICK' FOR THE 99% !!! This sh*t can not continue unchecked for much longer ...

If the organization of the last post looks funny, it was not composed as you see it. The coding of the site has rearranged the numbered list and the paragraph content and I am not going to waste time trying to write it out in a way the site understands.

Btw : How come people who say things like "Taxes are too high" and "Government is too large and and needs to be reduced," NEVER seem to have any questions, critique or even notion of The Massive US Military Empire and its Gargantuan Expenditures ?!

Do such expenses have an impact on domestic taxation d'you think ?!!

If the government of The U$A was truly 'democratic', then its size wouldn't be the problem but as a pissant apology of a demoCRAZY deMOCKERYcy is prevalent, whereby there is merely a "Government OF The 99% BY a 1% FOR a 0.01%" - then in the very least, complaining if not actually demonstrating, protesting and 'Occupying' becomes a moral imperative for all people of conscience.

A very real and fundamental point to always bear in mind is that taxes on individual entrepreneurs, small businesses and just about everyone else in society (The 99%), would be lower if Imperial Wars could be ended AND IF the 1% and all The Corporations (apparently 'legally individual persons') actually paid their Full, Proper and Fair Share of the Taxes !

The Banking Corporations in particular are the primary culprits in this 'cult of tax avoidance and evasion' and their opposition to The 'Tobin' / Financial Transaction Tax', is utterly unconscionable given the long term existence of the highly regressive 'Purchase Tax', 'Sales Tax' and 'Value Added Tax', which just about everyone else in society is almost always forced to pay !!

I'm not a violent person other than in self-defence but I'm beginning to have dreams about cutting out a senior banker's cold, dead heart with a rusty spoon & claiming it AS self-defence !!!

The government royals take and waste more than the private sector does. It the government taxation that threatens freedom and liberty more than any private sector company. Government has killed more people than any corporation.

The class warfare is actually being practiced ON us, not BY us. That's what I always make a point to tell people. Here's a perfect example --- I work for Verizon, the top 5 executives have sucked 350 million dollars in compensation out of the company over the last 5 years.WOW! That's not a bad payday if you can get it.
Last year when the union contract was up the company suddenly cried poor and had a list of concessions a mile long including pensions, healthcare, sick days, etc... etc.... One year later we are still trying to negotiate a fair contract but the company insists on most of the same givebacks as last year. Where is the justification for all these givebacks when the company is prospering? This is class warfare practiced by the rich on the middle and lower class.

A good example, we had a policy where you could get a 15% bump for any given promotion, that policy did not apply when you got near the top there supervisors could make two or three times what their direct reports made, there should be a law that says if you're a public traded company you can't do that. One rule for the workers another for the “officers of the company”.

i believe we should draft a new constitution and or a new constitutional ammendments by we teh people and send it out to be signed to the people.

It might include coroporation profit caps, which mandate profit sharing with its workers,

It should include making rent illegal, when someone pays to live in a home, or apartment, they become a co owner to an equal share of it! (This would lower the cost of living b.t.w.)

It might also include a revised "loan origination fee" where instead of paying 4500-6000 to print out some documents and sign it, the government or irs can earn their pay finally by overseeing this. Its wasteful, and doesnt cost alot to print out some papers and sign it, once the documents were created, they should only be like $100 to reprint and sign, but like so many other wasteful and darn right fraudulent things in our society. We the people's money is being scammed. We could be using these funds to redistribute to the people who cannot afford land.k

Another wasteful and fraudelent expense in society is the need to pay the government for the right to drive a car. Its none of their dam business, if my check engine light is on on my truck, and i sure as hell shouldnt have to pay any damn soul if my truck works fine and gets me back and forth to work!!!! Especially a wasteful government agency called the DMV.

Im tired of working to pay other people my money whether in rent, or in my right to get to work, they sure as hell wont let me ride on a horse the way god intended either.

Nothing would help our country more than to let the people keep the money they earn, Shall I go on with the bank overdraft fees??? Or the predatory lending Quit robbing the people in every level of our society!

there is a working group with a very good suggested amendment they are looking for comments and feedback. In general a complete rewrite requires a convention and I would not trust that process, an amendment presented might be able to get some sponsors and wide support, it requires OWS to enter into partisan politics to achieve such change though

I don't understand the meaning of politically correct -- isn't that an oxymoron? We have been placing form over substance for too long, much to the detriment of society. Denial by an individual is bad enough; denial by an entire culture is disastrous.

Good morning Tucson! This some background from down the thread, it is getting long:

Thank you for the comment, here I was intending to use a tool the 1% has developed against them.

“Politically correct” actually has an interesting history, it has been pointed out that NOW used it first in the 70’s as a way to draw attention to words like “chairman”. It did not catch on though until 1983 when Howard Cosell said this:

I do believe that eliminating derogatory references to anyone or anything is a good thing, not because it causes the feelings to be different in the present, but because it does not spread the poison of prejudicial thinking to generations to come. Our youth are much more accepting of differences in lifestyle, for instance, than we were. But we have been talking about wealth and the disparity in our economy lately, and it is a good thing. We also should address the idea that we have come to believe that how a thing looks is how it is -- to the point that people hocked their lives for an education, even though it frequently is useless in the real world; or we drive a fancy car that we can't afford because people believe it denotes success, which is all that matters (commercial for a car: "Be the Person the Chat Room Thinks You Are"). Then, when the economy collapses because of all these folks buying too much stuff, there is not only lack of substance in our economy, there is lack of substance in us, and we have no clue how to really be successful at anything. End of soapbox :)

That's OK go ahead and rant, there's plenty to be upset about. I think the people at the top treat the rest like a commodity to be used and disposed of. Watch as they come after "entitlements" but never bond interest, they have even issued "special bonds" to the trust fund different than those they sell the banks, so they can default on one without defaulting on the other. We must make sure it's the bank bonds they default on, if they refuse to levy the inheritances tax that will be needed to actually pay this bill.

You are absolutely 100% correct with your political correctness stance. When PC started to rise to prominence years ago, I had a hard time understanding it. But then I began to see how it was being used as a way for covering up the truth under some banner of "politeness", "minority equality", etc... What was really going on, I realized later, was that the Corps first, then Government second, realized there was an advantage to it. Under the guise of "let's not offend anyone" and wanting to squelch rising unrest (even way back then) they came up with PC as a way of effectively curbing free speech in the workplace. Curbing free speech makes people easier to control. People who are easier to control make good corporate drones. When you can change the mentality of an entire nation then you are one step closer to complete domination.

Thank you for the comment, here I was intending to use a tool the 1% has developed against them.

“Politically correct” actually has an interesting history, it has been pointed out that NOW used it first in the 70’s as a way to draw attention to words like “chairman”. It did not catch on though until 1983 when Howard Cosell said this:

When was the last time anybody on the cable news outlets spent ten minutes talking about wealth disparity and class in America?

I remember a few times when OWS started last fall but since then, not at all and yet it is what drives all of our public policy. Debate about how "broke" we are (when we have 60 trillion in net worth) or how taxes are holding us back, when the truth are taxes are super low for the very wealthy but we don't talk about it.

Semitic originally referred to things pertaining to ancient and modern speakers of Semitic languages like Arabic yet Arabs and Muslims (i.e. members of the Semitic religion Islam) are often referred to as being anti-Semitic for opposition to the oppressive acts of people mostly represented by those of a thousand year old German heritage.

I totally agree the English language has been screwed over. Many of these examples are quite common in everyday conversation

Here are some examples of commonly used phrases that are regarded as doublespeak, and the phrase that people actually mean.

"Using the facilities" instead of going to the bathroom
"Downsizing" instead of firing people
"Reducing costs" as opposed to cutting peoples' salaries or the amount

of supplies going into work

"Preowned" as opposed to used and possibly beaten up
"Well loved" as opposed to old and raggedy
"Senior citizen" in place of an old person
"Experienced" or "well experienced" in place of old
"Detainee" for a prisoner of war
"Pre-emptive strike" instead of unprovoked attack
"Enhanced interrogation" in place of torture
"Person of interest" instead of a suspect in a crime
"Capital punishment" instead of the death penalty
"Take down" in military language instead of saying killing someone
"Restructuring" instead of a reorganization
"A bit shaky" as opposed to of really poor quality
"Put to sleep" instead of euthanize
"Ethnic cleansing" instead of genocide
"Substance abuse problem" as opposed to drug addiction
"Ill advised" in place of highly thought against or a very bad idea
"Being held back" instead of failing or not performing well

The #ows movement is all but finished here. Our economy is still strong, and social security keeps most people in a home, and glued to the idiot box. It's very hard to convince most people of what is happening behind the scenes. The politically minded are still ranting about left and right.

I know the klan, like the GOP will always be around I'm just glad people don't feel free to admit it in public at least, now when the same is said for being a Republican, then I'd say we are well on are way to fixing things.

Todays repub party is very different than the one that created the EPA, and earned income tax credits. It is also different from the one that advocated for the abolishing of slavery, (I know 160 yrs) and the one that advocated trust busting (ending corp monopolies) and workers rights (Teddy! BULLY!)

So I agree people should one day be embarrassed to have been supporters of this republican parties agenda. But I think the embarrassment should be related to the policies/issues they have supported.

More details below, but things really started to happen in 1980 with Reagan and his plan to destroy the government by running the debt up until it could not be maintained, and then the country will have to do as the bankers say, like in Spain today.

Yeah that would be nice, I was thinking of a few years back when I saw some guys handing some Klan paperwork around at work, they at least knew that the feelings they had made them unwelcome among decent folks, I saw them proudly portray their GOP status later, when in truth the things the GOP do are just as embarrassing to decent folks. As more people realize that it is evil to try to win by keeping people from the polls, that giving religious nuts the power to make women spread’em for the God peek, or the government protecting bigots that feel if they give you a paycheck they own your life. I could go on but I’m sure you get the point, we have got to stop letting people get away with this crap, “I’m a Republican, but not one of “those”” they are all to blame, we should always be reminding them, till they can’t take it anymore and give up on the GOP crap, then we will be getting some shit done.

Yes the socially challenged/dysfunctional - products of a sick environment and the victims of a poor education. They never were taught how to look at the world for themselves - only how to take direction from manipulators.

Every time I challenge one of their pat talking points with a real question they just fail open and look at me, because they don't really understand the crap they spew, but in the interest of civility we so often pretend like it's all ok, wouldn't want to upset anybody, don't put a label on it for god’s sake, people talk about being a Republican like it's being a Yankees fan or something, but it's not, being a Republican hurts everybody, and just saying "my family has always been republican" don't cut it anymore.

flushing your vote down the toilet doesn't clean your hands either, all who do not do all they can to defeat Republicans are reasonable for every war they start and every murder that results, as soon as you show me that doing as you suggest would not result in even more murder we can move forward but you can't you know that Romney will win if Obama don't you know Romney will commit even more murder but you want people to believe you care about people dying, if you did you would try to stop it, instead of making it worse

Hey if you guys had been there for Hilary like I was and Gore Vidal wishes he were maybe things would be different, yes by all means we need to work our asses off in the primaries to get the best people to beat the shit out the Republican in the general, you may become a warrior of change after all.

The first use I remember was by the GOP turning America against the greedy auto worker unions, I remember story after story about how the greedy unions were destorying the rust belt, I would say that was the recent resurgence and it goes on today in places like WI where it's the public service unions that are the new targets, all the while the vast majority of Americans ingore the huge difference between working folks and the billionairs paying for these politcal ads, no wonder working people are getting their lunch eaten by the bosses

could you give me the link to where I said that, to refreash my memory,. and while you're at it explain again how you plan to keep Romney from winning the White House, or tell me how Gore would of done all the same stuff Bush did, I don't remember you explaining that

i have been saying this for the past couple years. I find it odd that none of my friends or family want to discuss exactly how much we all make because we are all poor together. wouldnt it seem more appropriate to discuss it so that if one is doing great, they might share their wisdom? instead of keep others in the dark and suffering in their financial servitude? Who pitted us against each other like this? I remember the same attitude existed on several jobs I worked at like it was offensive to find out how much others made.

Yeah funkin' bastards, we give'em jobs and they want paychecks and healthcare too? Why the hell should we pay enough for people to live 24 hours a day, we only work them 12, let the government pick up the tab for the other 12.