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Most recent forum messagesenWed, 29 May 2013 19:50:32 GMTJive SBS 4.5.6.0 (http://jivesoftware.com/products/clearspace/)2013-05-29T19:50:32ZenRe: help identify the treehttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/29424?tstart=0#29424
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:2cccd27f-6626-4365-be60-2dd25982ca74] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>thank you for information and useful suggestions.<span class="jive_macro jive_emote" src="/natureplus/4.5.6/images/emoticons/happy.gif"></span></p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:2cccd27f-6626-4365-be60-2dd25982ca74] -->Wed, 29 May 2013 19:50:32 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/29424?tstart=0#29424Findtree2013-05-29T19:50:32Z1 year, 9 months ago0Re: help identify the treehttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/29389?tstart=0#29389
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:6327f33d-88a3-40b8-aca6-90220ade18ac] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>In general, with any living organism, you may not have enough information to identify it completely. In these cases, you have to accept an incomplete identification. That may mean you know it is one of a few particular species, or you may know just the genus, or maybe even just the family. </p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>In this case, I have just your photos as information.</p><p>I can tell from these that it is a species of Fraxinus, and I would guess Fraxinus excelsior, the common ash.</p><p>I say that based on:</p><p>- the shape of the leaves</p><p>- the arrangement of leaves on the stems</p><p>- the nature of the bark</p><p>- the nature of the bud scales (the buds now having expanded and given rise to new branches)</p><p>- its jizz</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>In all those things, I am using experience.</p><p>Everybody's experience is different. I may have more than you, but other folks will have more than me.</p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p>To answer your 'How should i do to indentify it in this cases?'</p><p>1. Accept that it might not be possible</p><p>2. Accept that it might be possible to make only a partial ID, eg. as far as genus</p><p>3. Consider some of the things I menion above</p><p>4. Consider other things, <span style="font-size: 10pt;">eg.:</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&#160;&#160;&#160; - look for old fruit/seeds/flowers below the tree (they may be decomposing but they can still be useful)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; - consider the acidity of the soil (some plants grow only on acid or on basic soils)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; - consider the location (some plants have limited distributions)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; - consider the environment (some plants live in particular settings, eg. woodland)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">5. Refer to books and online information resources</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">6. Ask somebody - like us!</span></p><p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;">&#160;</p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Mike<br/></span></p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:6327f33d-88a3-40b8-aca6-90220ade18ac] -->Tue, 28 May 2013 20:51:23 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/29389?tstart=0#29389MikeHardman2013-05-28T20:51:23Z1 year, 9 months ago0help identify the treehttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/29387?tstart=0#29387
<!-- [DocumentBodyStart:851e4734-1eb7-4a14-9aea-4151b6d34ca3] --><div class="jive-rendered-content"><p>i learned to identify a tree in my garden with the indentification key from NHM.&#160; but it hasn't fruit and flower now ecept leafs.&#160; leafs is not enough to identify it. how should i do to indentify it in this cases? thanks.</p></div><!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:851e4734-1eb7-4a14-9aea-4151b6d34ca3] -->Tue, 28 May 2013 20:33:03 GMThttp://www.nhm.ac.uk/natureplus/message/29387?tstart=0#29387Findtree2013-05-28T20:33:03Z1 year, 9 months ago20