<quoted text>Why would you take it upon yourself, to be the defender and spokesman for large domestic trucks....do you work at a domestic dealership or something? Are you just learning that foreign automakers have become very successful, here in America?

I do not work at a dealership. I defend domestic because alot (not all) of foreign companies come here and their wages are alot less than our domestic companies and sell their product for the same price if not more.

<quoted text>Quality aside, we know you will never waver on your stance of foreign vs. American.But, what is foreign vs. American? They are simply foreign BRANDS and American BRANDS. It's a world market now.The "Big Three" make many of their cars in Canada and Mexico, and the "Foreign" carmakers make many of their cars here in the U.S. with American parts and labor.You have said, that it's where the profits go. Well, Chrysler is owned by Fiat...a foreign company. What does that make Chrysler, an American company or a foreign company?Do you drink Bud or Busch beer? Budweiser is now owned by a Belgian brewing company called In-Bev. If you drink Bud, you are supporting a foreign company.It's not so bad. We buy foreign stuff. They buy American stuff. The trade deficit needs to be reduced, but that's the way it works.

Do some research Ford and GM do not make that many vehicles in Canada and Mexico. GM pulled alot of the truck assembly that was in mexico and Canada and moved it to Indiana and Michigan. TOYota moved the Tacoma from a UNION shop to a fully automated plant in Mexico. TOYota doesn't even want to pay mexicans to do it. Thats bad. As for your opinion on trade. We buy TOO MUCH of their stuff and they don't buy enough of ours.

<quoted text> Do some research Ford and GM do not make that many vehicles in Canada and Mexico. GM pulled alot of the truck assembly that was in mexico and Canada and moved it to Indiana and Michigan. TOYota moved the Tacoma from a UNION shop to a fully automated plant in Mexico. TOYota doesn't even want to pay mexicans to do it. Thats bad. As for your opinion on trade. We buy TOO MUCH of their stuff and they don't buy enough of ours.

Toyota moved out of the NUMMI plant which was a joint venture because GM went bankrupt and Pontiac ceased to be a GM brand--GM and Toyota were built from the same parts on the same assembly line.

You fought with me for a long time--If I recall you claimed no GM trucks were built in Mexico. Perhaps you are the one who should do some research before running his mouth

Old rocker said, "Quality aside....." Of, quality aside, that puts domestics at the metal wagon stage! Listen, we bailed out a useless company. Then Detroit wrote an article saying they were on top....really. Never happened. Don't believe everything you hear or read. Domestics still have along way to go to be part of the "QUAILTY" department. They can blow sunshine up your ass5454s all day long, its still a fact domestics are a problem in every aspect of the automotive industry!!!!!!!!!!

<quoted text> I do not work at a dealership. I defend domestic because alot (not all) of foreign companies come here and their wages are alot less than our domestic companies and sell their product for the same price if not more.

Their wages are less because their employees aren't forced to join the unions...that was easy.....

<quoted text> I do not work at a dealership. I defend domestic because alot (not all) of foreign companies come here and their wages are alot less than our domestic companies and sell their product for the same price if not more.

You do understand, that because so many foreign brands are built here now.....your attitude may be somewhat unrealistic? Would'nt you prefer an american-built truck, regardless of brandname?

<quoted text>Toyota moved out of the NUMMI plant which was a joint venture because GM went bankrupt and Pontiac ceased to be a GM brand--GM and Toyota were built from the same parts on the same assembly line.You fought with me for a long time--If I recall you claimed no GM trucks were built in Mexico. Perhaps you are the one who should do some research before running his mouth

We can lay out fact after fact, but Frank will never change his mind. He simply cannot grasp the concept of "World Market".He cannot, or will not see the difference between American companies and American brands.

<quoted text>We can lay out fact after fact, but Frank will never change his mind. He simply cannot grasp the concept of "World Market".He cannot, or will not see the difference between American companies and American brands.

I know i still have a few relatives that think that way....including my father, who actually loved the Beetle and was intrigued by the Toyota Crown wagon, back in the early 70's......in reality, it was all i could do to get him off Cadillac and onto a more reliable RWD, Grand Marquis...lol...had to stay BIG.....

BTW, January is notoriously a great month to buy two things....Cars and HDTV's....don't know all the reasoning, but much has to do with yearend inventorys and in the case of electronics, leftover product from Christmas.....

<quoted text>We can lay out fact after fact, but Frank will never change his mind. He simply cannot grasp the concept of "World Market".He cannot, or will not see the difference between American companies and American brands.

You are right I will never change my mind. I do not beleive in a world market we should do our thing here and they should do their over there. They can keep their crap I don't want it.

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