Tenther Radio 10-12-11: 2nd Amendment Suspended?

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SUSPENDING THE 2ND AMENDMENT?

The ATF has just released a brazen new policy, aggressively using something unpopular with many conservatives to further their aims to disarm Americans.

A September 21st letter sent by the ATF to Firearms dealers in states that allow medical marijuana says they can’t sell guns or ammunition to registered users of the drug, a policy that marijuana and gun-rights groups say denies Second Amendment rights to individuals who are following state law.

“There are no exceptions in federal law for marijuana purportedly used for medicinal purposes, even if such use is sanctioned by state law,” said the letter by Arthur Herbert, the ATF’s assistant director for enforcement programs and services.

Our position? There are no exceptions in the 2nd Amendment. Period. And, there are no exceptions to the fact that the ATF is not authorized to make law, just state their opinion.

WAR ON STATES RIGHTS

The Obama administration is also issuing direct threats to the state of California. They recently stated that medical marijuana businesses following state law could be raided and shut down at any time. With literally thousands of businesses around the state, is the Obama administration planning on sending in an entire army to attack the people there? We don’t expect so, but the threats are serious.

The IRS is also in the game. The IRS is now sending out back taxes due notices to medical marijuana businesses in California – saying that they don’t qualify for the tax deductions they’ve been doing over the years.

The IRS, the ATF and the DEA – all working together. The Obama administration shows its complete and utter hatred of states rights as being more important than a massive potential alienation of this core natural constituency.

We’ll be discussing this with a number of experts on the October 12th episode of TRX: Tenther Radio.

GUESTS

Paul Armentano is the deputy director of NORML, the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws. He’ll cover all these issues in brief, focusing on the direct attack on states rights and the will of the people in the states.

Larry Pratt will also join the show to talk about this attack – and others – on the right to keep and bear arms. Larry has been Executive Director of Gun Owners of America for over 30 years. GOA is a national membership organization of 300,000 Americans dedicated to promoting their Second Amendment freedom to keep and bear arms.

Mr Pratt will also give us some explosive news coming out of New Mexico – about a sheriff telling the feds to stuff it.

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It should be interesting to note that back in the 70’s and 80’s when law enforcement would do a drug raid on a dealer, they would take records of sales and mandate that, even though the business was illicit, they had to pay taxes on the business records seized by the police…fucking fork tounged idiots. Drug laws violate the Constitution. Period.

It should be noted that as part of this discussion that the Feds have served notice on numerous Medical Marijuana dispensaries in California to cease and desist by a certain date [sorry I didn’t pay ~that~ close an attention to the news item].
Looks like a co-ordinated effort with multiple prongs to put the squeeze on state nullification efforts.
If this is successful I predict the next step on the 2nd amendment front will be to go after those states that have in state de-regulation of firearms manufacturing and sales.
Overall goal will be to destroy state nullification attempts of any sort.

“No free man shall be debarred the use of arms.” Thomas Jefferson. ” The great object is that every man be armed — Everyone who is able may have a gun.” Patrick Henry. There is no room for doubt as to what the framers meant.

Just a few days ago, a Spokane woman interrupted the teft of a pot plant from her back yards. Here she has a grow operation, when a young pot head jumped her fence and started to dig up a plant. She and her brother first go after the thief with an 8’x2″x4″, who quickly takes it away and hits the brother. Well, the woman reenters her home grabs a .35 5-shot revolver. The thief is now fleeing, and is no longer a threat. She opens fire, letting loose 5 shots. The dumb pot thief gets a bullet in the head – but lives. He gets charged with robbery in the first degree. Under Washington state law, it is now ok to use lethal force even on a fleeing suspect no longer posing a threat. I certasinly support the second amendment but I think she was a little too violent when it comes to protecting her garden. This comes a week after ATF issued its press release. It is going to be interesting to see if the BATFE actually goes forward and charges this woman. Personally I think anyone dumb enough to have an outdoor grow operation inside of town, should accept that it is an attractive nuisance. Had this thief continued his attack (only a minor injury was had by the brother) and she had engaged the guy in the yard – blast’em. But, really is it a good idea to kill someone over a pot plant? What will the feds do?

The ATF (now BATFE, as I understand) is just another reincarnation of the Gestapo in our now totally illegitimate federal government. The federal government is doing far more to destroy and endanger our rights than it is to protect those rights. So from the point of view of protecting rights, the federal government is a net loss. (And most state and local governments are little better.) It is therefore time to alter or abolish this government and institute a new government that will be more effective in protecting our rights. Don’t get me wrong; I like the Constitution, but A) it isn’t perfect and B) it isn’t being adhered to by the government. In other words, the government simply ignores ninety percent of the government ninety percent of the time anyway. In that sense, the Constitution is a dying document. If we can’t use legal means to take effective recourse against the tyrants who trample the Constitution under their feet, then it is time to simply deny their authority over us.
I hope that the coming financial crash will teach people just how foolish it is to trust in a fascist welfare/warfare state propped up by a corrupt, fiat-currency-issuing central bank. If the people DO learn something from the crash, then there might be hope for rebuilding something better over the soon-to-be-ruins of our current economic/political system.