Oh that isn’t the issue. We all know who it is. It is just a matter of getting said people to hit the button.

Right now we have two people who regularly miss the button and one of them missed it because he hadn’t seen the fight on heroic until last night. The other ones were people either pushing to squeeze off some more dps before they hit the button (I was guilty of that one) or thinking they hit it when they didn’t. Most of the time we call ourselves out.

I got to listen to Tir’s 25-man raid working on this last night. A lot more people have to soak so there’s so much room for something to go wrong. It seemed like basic survivability was their primary problem after people learned to hit buttons again.

If people can’t do the button flawlessly on normal there is no way in hell they will do it on heroic.

My problem on that fight was that I’d actually hit the button too early and be back in the twilight realm before Hour went off. I had to really work to make myself wait until the complete end of sexy countdown.

Our officers would post the people who DIDN’T screw up and praise them. Was a bit more motivating than calling out the people who screwed up.

What made us get the kill, though, was just repetition. As soon as more than 1-2 people died, we’d wipe, run back. Eventually we got tired of running back and stopped screwing up.

That was the problem we were having (at least I was having) when we were learning this fight on normal. We really aren’t that negative in our group. As mentioned above, when someone messes up, we own up to it. Usually you will hear in vent an “aw shit” or a really loud “FUCK” when someone misses it. The dead raider or wiped group that follows is a prime indicator.

We are pretty good at just wiping and running back when a death happens. Using our only brez in the beginning of the fight is not a good sign.

I think the only ones getting red are usually Slice and Sorak. Possibly Adoe too.