The move your watching is incredible-looking due to the perspective you are seeing it from. See, the route we're watching in the movie is overhanging, as noted by the droop angle of the chalkbag on the climber, the draws on the wall. The person with their smartphone is likely right under the climber, who, is in a roof section.

Where we see the move as being incredible and unlikely she's just turning her body around to holds on the other side of the wall.

Impressive, yes, but not super-human or out of this world. It's perspective...

The move your watching is incredible-looking due to the perspective you are seeing it from. See, the route we're watching in the movie is overhanging, as noted by the droop angle of the chalkbag on the climber, the draws on the wall. The person with their smartphone is likely right under the climber, who, is in a roof section.

Where we see the move as being incredible and unlikely she's just turning her body around to holds on the other side of the wall.

Impressive, yes, but not super-human or out of this world. It's perspective...

I see what you are saying. It is more of a flat spin than a windmill. However, her feet end up above her head. It still looks pretty freaking cool to me.

It's a variation of what the "Mission Impossible" move (at 1:45 in the linked video), in which you do such a severe crossover that your body winds up facing outward from the wall. The only difference is that she then swings her feet way high after it. Really cool. They're hard moves to set.

My guess is she has practiced that kind of move a bunch of times -AND- the setter(s) set that sequence specifically to see if someone (perhaps Nikki in particular) would spot it and do the moves as requested. (Setters love to set "show-y" moves for comps, especially finals.)

My guess is she has practiced that kind of move a bunch of times -AND- the setter(s) set that sequence specifically to see if someone (perhaps Nikki in particular) would spot it and do the moves as requested. (Setters love to set "show-y" moves for comps, especially finals.)

This is in the finals of the dutch climbing championchips. Why the hell would she have practiced moves like that. Have you?

edit to add, I am pretty sure it was set intentionally. And Nikki is usually so much stronger then the rest that if you set something hard or weird it is probably for her :)

The move your watching is incredible-looking due to the perspective you are seeing it from. See, the route we're watching in the movie is overhanging, as noted by the droop angle of the chalkbag on the climber, the draws on the wall. The person with their smartphone is likely right under the climber, who, is in a roof section.

Where we see the move as being incredible and unlikely she's just turning her body around to holds on the other side of the wall.

Impressive, yes, but not super-human or out of this world. It's perspective...

I see what you are saying. It is more of a flat spin than a windmill. However, her feet end up above her head. It still looks pretty freaking cool to me.

The feet are actually lower then her hands. It's just weird perspective.

This is in the finals of the dutch climbing championchips. Why the hell would she have practiced moves like that. Have you?

Some people practice Rose moves, figure-fours, and other "trick" moves so they can use them when they see a situation where they would be beneficial. Nothing wrong with that.

However, I don't think the move in the video was as spontaneously conceived by Nikki as some might think.

There's certainly nothing wrong with practising weird moves for fun! But it is an on-sight competition, so I would be very surprised if it was not made up on the spot by her. But I'll ask around next time I'm at the gym (where this comp took place).

Wouldn't tryING be referred to as a multiple occasion thing? I make one post, in response directly to something someone else said and you accuse me of hijacking a thread?

Okay...regarding the name of that move Maybe it's called the "Up Yours...." Seriously. If the move is one that's going to get a name so people can shout out beta, why not have them be shouting "Doooood...Up YOURS!"

This is in the finals of the dutch climbing championchips. Why the hell would she have practiced moves like that. Have you?

Some people practice Rose moves, figure-fours, and other "trick" moves so they can use them when they see a situation where they would be beneficial. Nothing wrong with that.

However, I don't think the move in the video was as spontaneously conceived by Nikki as some might think.

There's certainly nothing wrong with practising weird moves for fun! But it is an on-sight competition, so I would be very surprised if it was not made up on the spot by her. But I'll ask around next time I'm at the gym (where this comp took place).

I didn't think it was a weird move at all. As camhead said above, part of it is the angle/perspective of the camera. I am not anything even remotely close to Nikki in terms of climbing ability, but I have done similar moves on bouldering problems. All it is is an extreme crossover, then dropping feet and bringing them up on the other side. The rotation happens naturally. Feet above hands is not anything weird, either -- in fact I had done it on real rock this weekend, twice, on two different routes.

And yes, I do believe that she has practiced this kinds of moves before-- not practiced this specific move on this specific route, but this KIND of move. Every climber of her caliber has a huge repertoire of moves that might be rare in real life, but come in handy sometimes.

The way I see it, it is a difference between a beginner who just learned what flagging is, and someone experienced who has done 1000s of flags in so many variations-- high, low, more twisted, less twisted, inside, outside, on every possible rock angle, etc. etc. After having done these moves so many times, they recognize and instinctively do that move on a route they are onsighting, and to an onlooker it looks so practiced and smooth. like they have rehearsed it before.

This is in the finals of the dutch climbing championchips. Why the hell would she have practiced moves like that. Have you?

Some people practice Rose moves, figure-fours, and other "trick" moves so they can use them when they see a situation where they would be beneficial. Nothing wrong with that.

However, I don't think the move in the video was as spontaneously conceived by Nikki as some might think.

There's certainly nothing wrong with practising weird moves for fun! But it is an on-sight competition, so I would be very surprised if it was not made up on the spot by her. But I'll ask around next time I'm at the gym (where this comp took place).

I didn't think it was a weird move at all. As camhead said above, part of it is the angle/perspective of the camera. I am not anything even remotely close to Nikki in terms of climbing ability, but I have done similar moves on bouldering problems. All it is is an extreme crossover, then dropping feet and bringing them up on the other side. The rotation happens naturally. Feet above hands is not anything weird, either -- in fact I had done it on real rock this weekend, twice, on two different routes.

And yes, I do believe that she has practiced this kinds of moves before-- not practiced this specific move on this specific route, but this KIND of move. Every climber of her caliber has a huge repertoire of moves that might be rare in real life, but come in handy sometimes.

The way I see it, it is a difference between a beginner who just learned what flagging is, and someone experienced who has done 1000s of flags in so many variations-- high, low, more twisted, less twisted, inside, outside, on every possible rock angle, etc. etc. After having done these moves so many times, they recognize and instinctively do that move on a route they are onsighting, and to an onlooker it looks so practiced and smooth. like they have rehearsed it before.

They only thing I don't agree with is the idea her feet would be above her hands. My initial response was aimed at the idea that this move wasn't spontanious.