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Bottom line, Glenn Dorsey and Derrick Johnson are two players that have not lived up to their draft position. We need to trade these players to unlock their value or we need Romeo to work his magic. I think Romeo will do wonders for DJ's career. I'm not so sure about Dorsey's.

Saints have two LTs, both RFA's. Jamal Brown is a Pro Bowler, but was out last year with an injury. Jermon Bushrod started all last season and the Saints won a Super Bowl with him. One of them will not be happy on the pine, so chances are, one is tradable. Jermon is tendered for a 2nd, Jamal is tendered for a 1st & 3rd ( but could possibly be dealt for less due to the injury last year ).

Trade Questions:

Would you take Jamal Brown for Glenn Dorsey and a swap of 3rd round picks? Straight up no swap?

Lions/Gunther get the DT that want(Dorsey), add a much needed boost at OG for a few more years with Waters. Gunther also gets his prize LB that fits his system perfectly and is a very big need for the Lions with DJ. They also drop down from #2 to #5 to save a little money on the OT they draft(Like they are trying to do anyways).

Pioli gains a guy thats probably a better fit for his/Crennels 3-4 D in Suh and also a weapon like Calvin to team up with Bowe and Chambers.

Lions/Gunther get the DT that want(Dorsey), add a much needed boost at OG for a few more years with Waters. Gunther also gets his prize LB that fits his system perfectly and is a very big need for the Lions with DJ. They also drop down from #2 to #5 to save a little money on the OT they draft(Like they are trying to do anyways).

Pioli gains a guy thats probably a better fit for his/Crennels 3-4 D in Suh and also a weapon like Calvin to team up with Bowe and Chambers.

I don't love it only becuse it would hurt our already lack luster o line. Sure we could fix that in the draft but again you never no what your going to get in a draft pick. I would not hate it but i don't love it.

Saints have two LTs, both RFA's. Jamal Brown is a Pro Bowler, but was out last year with an injury. Jermon Bushrod started all last season and the Saints won a Super Bowl with him. One of them will not be happy on the pine, so chances are, one is tradable. Jermon is tendered for a 2nd, Jamal is tendered for a 1st & 3rd ( but could possibly be dealt for less due to the injury last year ).

Trade Questions:

Would you take Jamal Brown for Glenn Dorsey and a swap of 3rd round picks? Straight up no swap?

You know what's crazy about this scenario? The year the Chiefs drafted Dorsey, the Saints actually made a offer to trade Brown & the 9th pick for the pick you guys picked Dorsey with. Still wonder why Carl never made that happen.

Saints have two LTs, both RFA's. Jamal Brown is a Pro Bowler, but was out last year with an injury. Jermon Bushrod started all last season and the Saints won a Super Bowl with him. One of them will not be happy on the pine, so chances are, one is tradable. Jermon is tendered for a 2nd, Jamal is tendered for a 1st & 3rd ( but could possibly be dealt for less due to the injury last year ).

Trade Questions:

Would you take Jamal Brown for Glenn Dorsey and a swap of 3rd round picks? Straight up no swap?

I doubt The Saints would be too terribly interested, as they took Sedrick Ellis in that same draft and he has really done a good job for them.

But, if they were to make that offer, I might have to bite. Primarily because I think we are wasting Dorsey's talent by misusing him.

Originally Posted by balto

Could add more to the Lions trade:

Lions get:
#5
Dorsey(DT)
DJ(LB)
Waters(OG)

Chiefs get:
#2(Suh)
Calvin Johnson

Lions/Gunther get the DT that want(Dorsey), add a much needed boost at OG for a few more years with Waters. Gunther also gets his prize LB that fits his system perfectly and is a very big need for the Lions with DJ. They also drop down from #2 to #5 to save a little money on the OT they draft(Like they are trying to do anyways).

Pioli gains a guy thats probably a better fit for his/Crennels 3-4 D in Suh and also a weapon like Calvin to team up with Bowe and Chambers.

I don't see Suh as any kind of a fit for the 3-4. As with Dorsey, he'd be a DT forced to play some other position that doesn't make great use of his particular skills.

C.Johnson would be great to have. But I just don't see where the move up in draft position gets us much.

Basically, we give up three pojected starters, and pretty darn good ones, for one starter, and an unwanted change of draft position.

On the ESPN rumors today, they mentioned that the Steelers are "intently listening" to trade offers for Big Ben. After their surprising trade of WR Holmes, the Steelers have shown they are willing to trade away the "bad apples."

Pete Carroll is gonna want a good QB. Getting Ben on the cheap would be advantageous for him. The Seattle Seahawks give the Steelers their second round pick which they acquired from San Diego.

The Steelers, now suddenly in need of a QBOTF, decide they want to trade up to get Clausen before the Browns pick and risk having to face him for the next decade.

On the ESPN rumors today, they mentioned that the Steelers are "intently listening" to trade offers for Big Ben. After their surprising trade of WR Holmes, the Steelers have shown they are willing to trade away the "bad apples."

Pete Carroll is gonna want a good QB. Getting Ben on the cheap would be advantageous for him. The Seattle Seahawks give the Steelers their second round pick which they acquired from San Diego.

The Steelers, now suddenly in need of a QBOTF, decide they want to trade up to get Clausen before the Browns pick and risk having to face him for the next decade.