Posted
by
Roblimo
on Monday June 09, 2014 @04:16PM
from the up-up-and-away-in-your-beautiful-rocket dept.

Last month, at Maker Faire Bay Area 2014, Timothy Lord spotted a guy wearing a very large piece of headgear that included two crossed wrenches. The guy turned out to be Mike Szczys, Managing Editor of hackaday.com, which says, "The Hackaday Prize will send one person into space for building the next evolution of hardware." That's certainly of interest to the hardware hacker/maker crowd. How they're going to arrange the space flight (probably one of those "just above the atmosphere" hops) isn't specified, but even so the contest is an interesting idea, and the Hack A Day site seems to have some interest hacks and tutorials on it. So go ahead and enter the contest -- and don't forget to take your camera with you on your flight into space, because we'll want to see pictures! (Alternate Video Link)

Tim:
So Mike, you are walking around with an interesting prop on your
head?

Mike
Szczys: Yes, you bet.

Tim:
Now is that the Hackaday logo, you...

Mike
Szczys: Yes.

Tim:
????

Mike
Szczys: We lovingly call it the Jolly Wrencher because of the
wrenches. It is the Hackaday logo. I really like when I do live
things to actually build something, because our website is all about
getting off of the couch, getting into your basement and building
something awesome. Instead of just something that blinks or that sort
of thing, I thought why not build kind of a showpiece, a thing that
readers could wander up to and people that were curious could also
find.

Tim:
You’re walking and also you’re talking about the
Hackaday prize.

Mike
Szczys: Yeah.

Tim:
Let’s talk about that.

Mike
Szczys: Sure, I’d love to talk about that. I’m very
excited about the Hackaday prize. It is a six-month long initiative
that we just launched at the end of April, to support open design, so
open hardware and open source software. The grand prize for the
Hackaday prize is a trip into space on the carrier of your choice. We
also have four other great top prizes, things like top of the line 3D
printers, industrial grade milling machines, we have 50 $1,000 grab
bags of electronics and then hundreds of other prizes, that we are
going to give along the way: t-shirts, stickers, posters, this sort
of thing.

Tim:
What are you looking for, what’s a winner, what gets you
the stakes?

Mike
Szczys: So you need to build something that is an electronics
project, it needs to connect in some way to something else, and it
needs to be as open as possible. We didn’t really want to put
you in a box with the way you can design because we want to see kind
of the next generation; we want to skip the current technology and go
to the next generation of connected devices, things that transfer
data. So it could be a central network. It could be something
connected to the Internet. It could be something connected to your
phone. And then the openness part of it is, can you make it so that
other people can look at your example and see how you got past
roadblocks, and then they can stand on your shoulders and kind of do
their own contribution to open hardware.

Tim:
I want to talk about space.

Mike
Szczys: Yeah.

Tim:
A carrier of your choice. Right now, that’s not many.

Mike
Szczys: No, there aren’t too many and actually none of them
are going to space, but I have looked at it in depth and they may as
soon as 2014 be going into space, there is a cash alternative which I
personally hope people don’t take, but it’s $196,418 that
you can choose instead of the grand prize, but I just think it’s
a lot more fun, it’s a life experience that you’d never
going to buy for yourself and really the best present is always
something someone would never buy for themselves.

Tim:
The price of space is going down quite a bit.

Mike
Szczys: How do you

Tim:
Well, I mean, when Mark Shuttleworth went...

Mike
Szczys: Yeah, I would even go back further than that and say, it
used to take a nation-state to put a person into space and you’re
not going to be going to the moon, you’re not going to be
docking with the ISS yet. But how many humans have actually been into
space, you can be among the first of them.

Tim:
I think Virgin I think it is that just had to withdraw one of
their space plans because of the
old definition of space.

Mike
Szczys: Yeah. And so, I think they call it sub-orbital at this
point, but you know, it’s still a great thing to shoot for and
you can call it a moon-shot and again you’re not going to the
moon but it is something that very few people have had the
opportunity to experience.

Tim:
And by the way your cash alternative is very specific?

Mike
Szczys: Yes.

Tim:
Why is that?

Mike
Szczys: Well, we didn’t just want to give away $200,000 as
a cash alternative; you got something a little more geekier than
that. So we started looking around prime numbers, there’s a
whole bunch of them, they don’t mean much around there; if you
do base two numbers, it’s not near that. But then, we came
along the idea of the Fibonacci sequence, so this is actually a
Fibonacci number.

Tim:
Very good. How do people enter the contest?

Mike
Szczys: They go to hackaday.io/prize. It has all the information.
We have a fantastic panel of judges on there, people like Ladyada,
Bunnie Huang, Ian Lesnet, Elecia White. There is eight in total; I
won’t list them here. All the information about entering is
there. You create a free account and then we want you to publish the
details of the entire project, not just what got you to the endpoint
because this really should be a tool that others can use to learn
from in their own projects.

Tim:
What is the entry deadline?

Mike
Szczys: The first cut-off is actually August 4,, so
you have until August 4, but you want to get into your

Tim:
Why don’t you answer that one again?

Mike
Szczys: Sure. The first cut-off date is actually August 4, but
you want to get your entry in as soon as possible because we have
ongoing community voting and you can win some of the prizes like
t-shirt stickers, posters, that sort of thing, all the way from now
to when the first round of cut-offs is made August 4.

The rational way to approach winning this prize would be to ask yourself if you'd buy a ticket to space if you had the cash value already in your savings account. If you'd spend your hard earned money on anything other than a brief flight "up real high" then take the cash equivalent.

Even if they cover the taxes that you'll be responsible for paying on the value of the flight, I'd rather be filling out tax forms knowing that some of that cash was still in the bank.

Generally, Birthday gifts are not taxable. But winning this "prize" could financially ruin you, at least if you live in the U.S.A., since you would have to pay taxes on it. Federal tax and, in most states, state and maybe even a local tax. We have already had someone who "won" a trip to space who had to decline it since there was no way that he could afford the taxes on it's supposed value. Even the cost of a sub-orbital trip is a lot more than I could afford to pay the taxes on, and I expect that many othe

We have already discussed this. The cost of a trip to space is so high that the average guy can't afford to win it and (as has happened before) would have to decline it, otherwise the taxes on the "prize" would ruin you.

Yes indeed, "not again". The US system of taxes on prizes is utterly ludicrous. No way should the recipient of a prize be liable for any kind of payment. Tax the prizes if you must, but that will be payable by the organization that issues the prize.

And don't get me started on a slightly OT rant about the retarded situation that permits US mobile carriers to charge customers to receive SMS messages.