HSPA is more battery efficient, and there isn't an obvious speed difference either way. When true 4G LTE (LTE Advanced) becomes available that will change, barring similar improvements in hspa.

But the usable difference for todays lte vs todays HSPA is mainly marketing.

ZombieHunter

Dismembered Member

posted: Sep. 22, 2013 @ 8:09a

NEDeals said: HSPA is more battery efficient, and there isn't an obvious speed difference either way. When true 4G LTE (LTE Advanced) becomes available that will change, barring similar improvements in hspa.

But the usable difference for todays lte vs todays HSPA is mainly marketing.

Surely you must have bumped your head somewhere. There is a big difference in speed. I was getting 4mbps and now getting 17mbps+...you don't think that is an obvious speed difference?

And, maybe I'll sound outdated, but we are talking about speed of internet on a cell phone...how fast do you need it?

And... my battery is lasting Just as long with LTE as it did on HSPA...I really don't think you have a good phone to check the stuff you are talking about.

koopons

Senior Member

posted: Sep. 22, 2013 @ 2:17p

Finally got it working had to email them using there email support its 1000 times better then there crappy phone support. Took one email about about 2 hours for them to reply and it was fixed and working on LTE I think from here on out any support I need will be done through emailing them.

ZombieHunter

Dismembered Member

posted: Sep. 22, 2013 @ 3:02p

koopons said: Finally got it working had to email them using there email support its 1000 times better then there crappy phone support. Took one email about about 2 hours for them to reply and it was fixed and working on LTE I think from here on out any support I need will be done through emailing them. They respond faster through a Facebook post.

zacksmith

Senior Member - 1K

posted: Sep. 22, 2013 @ 9:53p

Grrrr

This isn't working for me. Is this deal working or did they run out of sims just in time to screw me??

Hehe

NEDeals

Senior Member - 2K

posted: Sep. 22, 2013 @ 10:52p

ZombieHunter said: NEDeals said: HSPA is more battery efficient, and there isn't an obvious speed difference either way. When true 4G LTE (LTE Advanced) becomes available that will change, barring similar improvements in hspa.

But the usable difference for todays lte vs todays HSPA is mainly marketing.

Surely you must have bumped your head somewhere. There is a big difference in speed. I was getting 4mbps and now getting 17mbps+...you don't think that is an obvious speed difference?

And, maybe I'll sound outdated, but we are talking about speed of internet on a cell phone...how fast do you need it?

And... my battery is lasting Just as long with LTE as it did on HSPA...I really don't think you have a good phone to check the stuff you are talking about. My head is just fine. Sure at any given moment, one technology may be faster or slower than the other, but that's a function of many parameters, including your location, antenna direction, noise, frequency used, etc. HSPA supports up to 42 Mbps (84 on the way for some carriers) and that is plenty fast at this time.

See alsohttp://gigaom.com/2012/02/17/why-lte-sucks-your-battery-that-is/

esoterica

Senior Member - 1K

posted: Sep. 22, 2013 @ 11:34p

beachfitrob said: 12 megabytes a second is plenty fast and saves battery.That's a common misconception that hasn't been true since the first generation of LTE chipsets. Battery life is actually better using LTE rather than 3G on most handsets (including the iPhone 5) due to a phenomenon called "race to sleep". The iPhone 5 actually gets 1.8x better battery life with browsing on LTE vs 3G.

race to sleep is maybe an esoteric term for chip throttling or IO scheduling? anyway for general purpose browsing 4Mbps and 16Mbps are equal. LTE seems more compelling where price is same and batt life is slightly better tho OR where you're a youtube et al. streaming monster!

Paulaji99

Ancient Member

posted: Sep. 23, 2013 @ 4:57p

Switched to st LTE . And this morning I got 22m/8m speed. Been a long term st customer E-71 era and planning to continue

coolbreeze

Senior Member - 4K

posted: Sep. 23, 2013 @ 5:57p

If anyone on the LTE plan has any feedback on how ST is handling the increased data usage, please report back. I had them in the past and they would slow my connection to dial-up after a day of moderate data usage (no streaming).

I'm on the fence but if they are still militant with LTE data, it just isn't worth the hassle.

sjwaste

Broke Member

posted: Sep. 23, 2013 @ 6:11p

Is LTE enabled for people using older AT&T ST SIMs, or do you specifically need a new SIM from them? I have two phones on ST, neither of which support LTE, but the next ones may.

ZombieHunter

Dismembered Member

posted: Sep. 23, 2013 @ 6:56p

sjwaste said: Is LTE enabled for people using older AT&T ST SIMs, or do you specifically need a new SIM from them? I have two phones on ST, neither of which support LTE, but the next ones may. Need a new SIM.

sjwaste

Broke Member

posted: Sep. 23, 2013 @ 7:10p

Thanks, just ordered 2 spares for when we upgrade our phones.

BTW, if you navigate from straighttalkbyop.com, they are available.

zacksmith

Senior Member - 1K

posted: Sep. 23, 2013 @ 9:48p

Ive been trying to oder a sim card. The deal is supposed to be 6.99 with free shipping. However, it keeps wanting me to select postage, so I cant get free shipping.Anyone else have this problem? Also, can you pay extra and get tethering or is it not available?

Thanks

zack

xarmian

Member

posted: Sep. 23, 2013 @ 10:18p

zacksmith said: Ive been trying to oder a sim card. The deal is supposed to be 6.99 with free shipping. However, it keeps wanting me to select postage, so I cant get free shipping.Anyone else have this problem? Also, can you pay extra and get tethering or is it not available?

Thanks

zack

Choose the second option, "FREE Fedex Overnight (for SIMs) until 9/30/2013" It says $14.95, but it'll show as free on the next page before you confirm.

zacksmith

Senior Member - 1K

posted: Sep. 23, 2013 @ 11:03p

xarmian said: zacksmith said: Ive been trying to oder a sim card. The deal is supposed to be 6.99 with free shipping. However, it keeps wanting me to select postage, so I cant get free shipping.Anyone else have this problem? Also, can you pay extra and get tethering or is it not available?

Thanks

zack

Choose the second option, "FREE Fedex Overnight (for SIMs) until 9/30/2013" It says $14.95, but it'll show as free on the next page before you confirm.

Thank you

Paulaji99

Ancient Member

posted: Sep. 30, 2013 @ 10:54a

Thanks OP . Works awesome

thunderstruck

Senior Member

posted: Sep. 30, 2013 @ 3:06p

It shows at 14.99 for me for the card.

ZombieHunter

Dismembered Member

posted: Sep. 30, 2013 @ 3:10p

thunderstruck said: It shows at 14.99 for me for the card. Sale is over

blackbrutha said: Be prepared to get throttled , even if you use only like 300 Meg's a month. Worst service ever, just saying .

They actually say that you'll get throttled at 2.5 GB now. I imagine you might also get throttled over 300MB in a day or something as well. I've never had a problem with this, but I don't stream audio or video over cellular.

I'm on ST's LTE network now, and it tests out as being really fast. I think I got something like 15 Mbps.

ZombieHunter

Dismembered Member

posted: Oct. 3, 2013 @ 5:39p

cnccnc said: blackbrutha said: Be prepared to get throttled , even if you use only like 300 Meg's a month. Worst service ever, just saying .

They actually say that you'll get throttled at 2.5 GB now. I imagine you might also get throttled over 300MB in a day or something as well. I've never had a problem with this, but I don't stream audio or video over cellular.

I'm on ST's LTE network now, and it tests out as being really fast. I think I got something like 15 Mbps. New from ST

Raistlin

Senior Member

posted: Oct. 3, 2013 @ 7:49p

OT question, ST doesn't support short codes right?

bighitter

Senior Member - 1K

posted: Oct. 3, 2013 @ 8:48p

ZombieHunter said: NEDeals said: Does anyone have a recommendation for a SIM adapter that accepts a micro SIM so it can be used in a mini SIM (original size) phone? Yes, these are awesome and fit perfectly.ebay item 151079159198

There is no regular card any longer. The LTE card is the only one. If you don't have LTE, it will still work with 4G, and 3G.

Yes, it'll work in your phone and you'll get 4G. Has anyone tried one of these on the Nexus 4? I had an old ST/ATT sim, and (non-LTE) data worked fine. But, with the new one, I get nothing, not even 3G or 4G.

ZombieHunter

Dismembered Member

posted: Oct. 4, 2013 @ 6:54p

Raistlin said: OT question, ST doesn't support short codes right? ST does not support short codes.

DirkDIggler

Senior Member - 3K

posted: Oct. 6, 2013 @ 5:21p

is there a way to tell if the sim does LTE on att without putting it in the phone or activating? I got the 60.00 starter pack from WalMart that had the regular size tmobile (pink) and att (blue) sim.

ZombieHunter said: DirkDIggler said: is there a way to tell if the sim does LTE on att without putting it in the phone or activating? I got the 60.00 starter pack from WalMart that had the regular size tmobile (pink) and att (blue) sim. The At&t SIM should be DARK blue, not baby blue.

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