Well, Intel is forcing their IGP on everyone who takes a Core i-series CPU. A discrete GPU would operate alongside and not instead of the IGP.

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I suppose Intel is also forcing ram slots on us too. Apple only recently decided to fill these with 4GB's standard anyways.

The is ABSOLUTELY no excuse for Apples lack of a dedicated GPU in the 13". Apple continues to make the 13" overpriced and undesirable to potential switchers. Why? Greed!

Thermal issues can be cleared by clocking the GPU to a reasonable level. Even underclocked, the user would be able to take advantage of simple things like core's & shader's.

Its insane that (Aside from OSX and trackpad) They let the 1.5 year old Sony Z still slaughter them spec wise. Hell, the Z even has a 1080p screen! I don't need a 10+ hour battery Apple! Heres another news flash, most professionals using their MBP's for intensive work use the charger anyways.

Seriously, there is absolutely ZERO point to this new refresh. Unless we find some big surprises on CTO, or you want lightpeak REAL early, what would you do on the 13" MBP that would actually take advantage of the CPU bump? Video conversion? Still not worth the scratch IMO.

I suppose Intel is also forcing ram slots on us too. Apple only recently decided to fill these with 4GB's standard anyways.

The is ABSOLUTELY no excuse for Apples lack of a dedicated GPU in the 13". Apple continues to make the 13" overpriced and undesirable to potential switchers. Why? Greed!

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I do believe that the 13" MBP is Apple's best-selling laptop for quite a while now, so I'm curious as to how you can claim that they are undesirable to switchers. Unless your singular opinion (and possibly some other people you know) can back up such a bold claim.

Does the fact that a product sold good in the past make it a absolute seller in the future?

The ignorance

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If that's directed at my comment…. I have thought about it and I realize (and perhaps you don't) that word tense counts. As such, the comment I replied to used "continues." Dictionaries define that as "persisting in an activity or process."

I have no crystal ball here didn't make any future predictions. I was simply talking about the past and present.

-d

edit: However, I do believe that it will continue to be their best seller in the future, in case you were wondering.

I suppose Intel is also forcing ram slots on us too. Apple only recently decided to fill these with 4GB's standard anyways.

The is ABSOLUTELY no excuse for Apples lack of a dedicated GPU in the 13". Apple continues to make the 13" overpriced and undesirable to potential switchers. Why? Greed!

Thermal issues can be cleared by clocking the GPU to a reasonable level. Even underclocked, the user would be able to take advantage of simple things like core's & shader's.

Its insane that (Aside from OSX and trackpad) They let the 1.5 year old Sony Z still slaughter them spec wise. Hell, the Z even has a 1080p screen! I don't need a 10+ hour battery Apple! Heres another news flash, most professionals using their MBP's for intensive work use the charger anyways.

Seriously, there is absolutely ZERO point to this new refresh. Unless we find some big surprises on CTO, or you want lightpeak REAL early, what would you do on the 13" MBP that would actually take advantage of the CPU bump? Video conversion? Still not worth the scratch IMO.

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Well, you have three options:
Buy an Apple product.
Buy another computer.
Build one yourself.

I suppose Intel is also forcing ram slots on us too. Apple only recently decided to fill these with 4GB's standard anyways.

The is ABSOLUTELY no excuse for Apples lack of a dedicated GPU in the 13". Apple continues to make the 13" overpriced and undesirable to potential switchers. Why? Greed!

Thermal issues can be cleared by clocking the GPU to a reasonable level. Even underclocked, the user would be able to take advantage of simple things like core's & shader's.

Its insane that (Aside from OSX and trackpad) They let the 1.5 year old Sony Z still slaughter them spec wise. Hell, the Z even has a 1080p screen! I don't need a 10+ hour battery Apple! Heres another news flash, most professionals using their MBP's for intensive work use the charger anyways.

Seriously, there is absolutely ZERO point to this new refresh. Unless we find some big surprises on CTO, or you want lightpeak REAL early, what would you do on the 13" MBP that would actually take advantage of the CPU bump? Video conversion? Still not worth the scratch IMO.

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Well, chalk it up to engineering. As for the price, the 13" MacBook Pro (at least the Mid-2010 model) is the single most overpriced model in the entire Mac line. Lucky (ingenious) for Apple, it has been a top seller.

I do believe that the 13" MBP is Apple's best-selling laptop for quite a while now, so I'm curious as to how you can claim that they are undesirable to switchers. Unless your singular opinion (and possibly some other people you know) can back up such a bold claim.

Cheers,

-d

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He means undesirable for "power user" switchers. Otherwise, it's a pretty appealing intro to the Mac platform if you are switching from Winblows.

The 6370M is probably too low, though it'd have been perfect for the 13" Pro were they using AMD Processors and IGPs. I'd, again, hedge bets on the 66x0M being the AMD consideration, if we are, in fact, going that route this time around.

I suppose Intel is also forcing ram slots on us too. Apple only recently decided to fill these with 4GB's standard anyways.

The is ABSOLUTELY no excuse for Apples lack of a dedicated GPU in the 13". Apple continues to make the 13" overpriced and undesirable to potential switchers. Why? Greed!

Thermal issues can be cleared by clocking the GPU to a reasonable level. Even underclocked, the user would be able to take advantage of simple things like core's & shader's.

Its insane that (Aside from OSX and trackpad) They let the 1.5 year old Sony Z still slaughter them spec wise. Hell, the Z even has a 1080p screen! I don't need a 10+ hour battery Apple! Heres another news flash, most professionals using their MBP's for intensive work use the charger anyways.

Seriously, there is absolutely ZERO point to this new refresh. Unless we find some big surprises on CTO, or you want lightpeak REAL early, what would you do on the 13" MBP that would actually take advantage of the CPU bump? Video conversion? Still not worth the scratch IMO.

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