"Hello, my name is Ray Hemphill, and here is a little bit about myself: I am
49 year old and I am happily married for 25 years..."

... and my I consider my marriage "happy" even tho I found it necessary to get two people to help me wrestle my wife to the ground and bind her wrists with tape, because she's so mentally unbalanced... and we spend all our money on a cult which tells the world how bad psychiatry is... but other than THAT, everything's great...

I know a lot about Lissa as I was an internal staff member in her org for years and left in 2006. There was one point when her mom went psychotic and it was a major problem she was dealing with. She has a brother named Jason Hemphill, he is in the Sea Org in Clearwater married to Rose. She also has another sister named Amy who has no involvement with the Sea Org. She is married to Martin Uvizl who used to be in INCOMM (the internal computer organization), but he blew and when he was recovered was posted in ASHO at PAC. She has been in the SO for a long time, she has always responded very antago to the anti-SCN, and she has gotten in trouble before internally for yelling at them or talking to them at all. You are supposed to just ignore them. Anyway, I can be PMed if someone has questions. I only have access to ESK, so.........

If anyone has questions, please post or pm me and I will get them to Amy.

Oh my god, I roomed with Ray, at the Scientology rooming house, in 2003 - 2004, Ray skipped Clearwater, came to LA to lay low, Ray worked/works for Robert Morse and Associates, he goes to accidents for the Insurance stuff. Oh my god!

There is so much more to this story, poor Ray, he also was working at Benneta Slaughters business, same one that Lisa McPherson worked at, and poor Ray, he's one of the Slaughter employees (friends of Lisa) who went and transported Lisa from the hospital to the Fort Harrison, from which stay Lisa died.

Oh god, what to say about how this whole damn Scientology goes in and out of different people's damn sad lives!

When I had my bike crash, Ray came and helped me home, though, he and I roomed in the same Scientologist rooming house.

I having just quit the Sea Org after almost 7 years of the RPF, and Ray, Ray was blowing Clearwater, and his wife, she had gone nuts.

some people "pull it in."

We pulled Scientology in, and Ray, his wife went nuts on him, she moved out of Clearwater eventually to Texas. She never recovered from her going nuts.

It is so wierd, that Ray's life went that way.

And now his daughter, settled on as the cult's victim to try to nail AGP.

Oh my god, the wierd fucking coincidences of life.

I like AGP, and all the anon 2.0 stuff.

What a damn mess.

What is said to Scientologists matters. I vote for talking Xenu story in simple terms, and also mentioning the fact that their leaders blow all the time, and that Scientologists should also blow as fast as they can.

5117 Harold Way, is where I roomed with Ray Hemphill, at a Scientology rooming house owned by a guy who at the time was LA Fdn staff. I forget all the names of the Scientologists living there, a mixed bag of Scn losers (me self included, sheesh).
About 300 yards from Big Blue, god what coincidences. I remember Amy, Lissa's sister, coming to visit Ray in the back yard of this rooming house.

I don't think Lissa came to visit, but me and Ray, we stopped by the Life Exhibition once for him to pay a visit to Lissa when she was on duty.

If Scientology weren't so insane on proper psych care, Ray's life wouldn't have been hugely messed up. He was a colleague of Lisa McPherson. His own wife needed psych help she didn't get due to Scientology, and now his daughter's in the spotlight for being "front lines" which being hostess at the Life Exhibition would be considered.

the world is seen as Scientology's enemy, because Hubbard willed it so.

God what hoops Hubbard has put so many people through.

the sooner Scientology fails completely, the better for all stuck playing Hubbard's stupid fraud game.

Ray worked at Robert Morse and Associates, a landing zone for lots of ex Guardian's Office people, and other "connected" exiting Sea Org members who stay in LA region after quitting the Sea Org.

Man, someone needs to write the story on just that whole misfit community of the thousands now, of ex Sea Org members living in all the Scientologist owned companies in LA.

God, how Hubbard's crap movement has effected LA! Somebody should do their story!

On reflection, over the last several months, I've started wondering whether some memorable interactions that I wrote off as "Crazy People" in So-Cal were Sci's.

It's wierd how stuff clicks when you start learning about this stuff...like the crazy woman who went off on me and some old ladies about the Psychiatrists causing the Holocaust while we were passing out flyers for a candidate about (in part) his pledge for better federally funded mental health care.....

Just one example I am 99% certain about. Living 'round here though, there are others.

thank you dt and pooks. your contributions are significant.
(dt: frankly, i was wondering if the name was swiss; austrian fits my vision)
thank you thank you.

do you think she is being *punished* or harassed in some way for her chatting up with agp? i was in court too, and she definitely looked BAD. pale and not perky, beyond what going to court might do. like she had been sick for weeks or something.

(on a another topic, but since you both have experience and insight: is there any Scientology activity that you know of in central america, particularly nicaragua?)

I don't believe there is an organization of any kind in Nicaragua, there is an org in Honduras and a mission in Costa Rica --- those would be the closest.

Chuck Beatty knowing her father, involvement with Lisa McPherson, her mom going psychotic (as I had suspected), her husband at INCOMM and blowing, her sister Amy out of scientology, Moxie in the middle of this, LA court system involved.

What's next? Lissa had lesbian sex with sex deprived Nicole Kidman (sorry, just fantasizing for a second or two)

AGP: How can you be so lucky ! You've hit the jackpot, which is why Moxie is taking this SO SERIOUSLY. Moron should have just ignored everything, but instead he will BLOW the entire operation !

Graham: You're going to be a superstar lawyer. Try to involve Anti-Shirtless's lady husband, Martin Uvizl. He should have an opinion about how she was affected by this.

I can only answer a couple times a day. I will be giving info daily, and here's the latest I learned from people about Lissa, and this can be used in the future. She's sort of a blonde air head prima donna, as you will see from this writeup:

She is married to Martin Uvitzl, formerly of Incomm, since blown and now in a lower org, I believe PAC.

She is posted as the LRH Life Exhibition I/C and she conducts tours and is in charge of the personnel in the office. Her senior is Luc Dubois, LRH PPRO CMO IXU. She really has no other external status but she has a head that is out of proportion to her think. i.e., she's not a bright as she thinks she is and she's a real
"blonde", not only in hair color but really.

Her territory is the LRH Life Exhibition so when the Anon people come to visit the HGB, this puts a crimp in her stats, big time.

That is what is bothering her. She and her crew body route public into the Life Exhibition and tour them, sell them books and otherwise think they are hot shit (one of the unfortunate pecking order problems within the HGB, is CMO IXU people who have these sort of PR jobs, they think they are super special, and untouchable from the crap that goes on effecting everyone else in the building, because the "front lines" Exhibition people escape some of the penalties that befall all the rank and file in the HGB most of the time).

She's been in Scn and the SO since about 1996/97. She came into Senior HCO and then moved into the CMO IXU unit, the LRH PPRO office and the Exhibition. She can blurt out facts and figures on LRH because she is drilled on this all the time.

In summary, she's sort of not a full CMO person, but puts on the CMO brat attitude, and she's got sort of job security, but anon does hurt her statistics!

Actually, from what I read, I think Ray Hemphill was trying to help his wife go to the doctor. May not have been the best way to go about it, but he probably had no choice.

I think she was going nuts (hormonal imbalance fit or psychotic episode) and he had to restraint her. I don't know if ambulance medics are able to take someone to the hospital if they resist ?

You think she was going nuts? It wouldn't occur to you that her husband was LYING about what they were going to do with the woman?
Like, spirit her away for a nice Introspection Rundown sesh in a remote house somewhere away from prying eyes?

You think she was going nuts? It wouldn't occur to you that her husband was LYING about what they were going to do with the woman?
Like, spirit her away for a nice Introspection Rundown sesh in a remote house somewhere away from prying eyes?

NEVER assume these bastards are telling the truth!

First I said "I think" ....

Next, I also think that the mom was/is the nuttiest scientologist out of the two. She refused to go to the doctor and ignored all her appointments. That's totally in line with a scientologist that avoids mental health professionals. Chuck knows a lot more about that family than we do and I hope he will post more on the subject. His knowledge may break the AGP/Moxon case our way, and I believe we'll see a domino effect after that case.

For example, if Chuck can confirm that Lissa knows everything there is to know about Xenu and the OT levels, we have clear evidence that she lied on camera for the cult. Her testimony becomes much less reliable in front of the judge.

What is said to Scientologists matters. I vote for talking Xenu story in simple terms, and also mentioning the fact that their leaders blow all the time, and that Scientologists should also blow as fast as they can.

I'm also all for keeping the message simple. I'm not even sure if the young scientologists understand what's meant by the word "Blow". If we just yell at them "Blow like Mike Rinder", they may not have a clue what we are talking about.

I'm also all for keeping the message simple. I'm not even sure if the young scientologists understand what's meant by the word &quot;Blow&quot;. If we just yell at them &quot;Blow like Mike Rinder&quot;, they may not have a clue what we are talking about.

Rephrase the message different ways to make use it's understood.

I'm pretty sure all Scios, both young and old know what the Scn definition of blow means. The concept is introduced into the indoctrination, very early on.

Here's the actual Scn definition per their Scn Administrative Dictionary

To enlarge pix click on lower left hand corner of pix and then click again on the box of arrows.

... snip... Chuck knows a lot more about that family than we do ....snip... if Chuck can confirm that Lissa knows everything there is to know about Xenu and the OT levels, we have clear evidence that she lied on camera for the cult. Her testimony becomes much less reliable in front of the judge.

the cult has an iron clad internal penalty system, if Lissa is NOT OT 3, and she is almost for sure NOT OT 3 case level, then the sad answer is NO.

She can lie honestly that she does NOT know the OT 3 story.

Really, even me, I've had to think about it, to even simplify the damn joke story, into baby spoon feedable sentences.

No staff are allowed to discuss ANYTHING to do with OT 3, it is a suppressive act, and Hubbard's internal rules keep them from even chatting to one another innocently about it.

She was ambiguous enough, and innocently could be construed to mean she didn't understand you.

She absolutely has heard snippets of the OT 3 story, all the time, thrown at her, since she is on "public lines" but NO ONE in the movement can tell her.

Only will she see the Hubbard writing on OT 3 when she gets to start the OT 3 course someday.

Otherwise, if she reads about it in the newspaper or hears it on a TV news program she happens to hear, she like all faithful staff will dismiss whatever is in the press as an alternation and exaggeration.

and because she has NOT and will NOT be given the Hubbard OT 3 stuff to read, NOR will anyone who is not a Class 8 auditor trainee (and that is a damn high level auditor) so the rank and file will never have heard, unfortunately, the Class 8, 1968 Assists lecture by Hubbard.

They are unfortunately telling the truth when they say they don't know what the hell the Xenu and OT 3 story is about.

What is needed is spoonfeeding of the story, over and over and over and over, and playing that Class 8 tape so many times, it sinks into their heads.

The new religious movement scholars have observed that the code of silence rules Scientology employs to keep the lower case level members unaware of the OT 3 story is EFFECTIVE.

I am already so overwordy and unskilled in writing as it is, so I didn't want to priorly go into this point, since it's depressing, and one of the lynchpins of how the cult keeps its members under the cult millieu control.

their rules make it an SP act for them to discuss OT 3 story, and they simply will NOT be explaining the OT 3 story internally.

that is the sad sad tough Hubbard authoritarian penalty system that keeps this damn OT 3 material from sinking into their heads, when it comes at them from the outside world.

Spoonfeeding along the lines I suggested in other enturb posts, that's all I can think of doing.

a) Tell them: "The Ot 3 story is all about the Wall of Fire."
b) "Did you know that Xenu is the space alien leader who caused the Wall of Fire?"
c) "Did you know the Wall of Fire is also the 4th dynamic engram"
d) "Did you know that on OT 3 that's where LRH explains the 4th dynamic engram"
e) "Did you know that on one of the Class 8 tape lectures, that's where LRH explains the Wall of Fire engram, and exactly what Xenu ordered?"
f) "Did you know that the South Park TV episode is based on LRH's OT 3 writings and on the Class 8 lecture explaining the OT 3 story about the Wall of Fire?"
g) "Do you know that the big engram, the 4th dynamic engram, resulted in zillions of people dying, and that happened 75 million years ago?"
h) "Did you know that all those dead people, their thetans were implanted, and those thetans never got their own bodies, and they have been roaming earth for the last 75 million years?"
i) "Did you know that all those dead thetans infest every human being today, and each of us have tens of thousands extra thetans, which LRH calls "body thetans", infesting us all today?"
j) "Did you know that only doing OT 3, 4, 5, and 6, and 7 do you learn how to get rid of all the different kinds of "body thetans" that we are infested with?"
k) "Did you know that OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 are only all about removal of our "body thetans?"

This "ruins" the whole upper bridge for non OT people, and the staffers at the HGB, for sure, are read for these simple questions! Sea Org members know about the Wall of Fire and 4th dynamic engram.

What Sea Org members do NOT know about is these dots I just connected above.

Lissa would know about the Wall of Fire and the 4th dynamic engram.

She would NOT know the word "Xenu" since that word is NOT printed nor said in any non-confidential available writing that she has available to her as a non OT 3 Sea Org member.

She would NOT know the phrase "body thetans" which is NOT used by Hubbard in any non confidential available writing that she has available to her because he is NOT an OT 3 Sea Org member.

She only knows the Wall of Fire and the 4th dynamic engram.

She has had NOT LRH material ever shown her, it is a suppressive act to show her the materials that mention Xenu/Xemu. She can only see those materials when she gets to OT 3.

She has NOT had anyone, nor will anyone, connect these dots.

We can connect the dots, but she is trained, like all Scientologists, NOT to accept us from the outside world connecting the dots, and making this make sense.

I say give it a try, on others, but that is the hard sad barrier system that Hubbard has put up for the Scientology members.

The scholar said this is an effective barrier.

It can be broken down, but it's tough.

I don't think Lissa is lying saying she doesn't know about Xenu and body thetans. She would NOT have been told what those mean, because telling her would have been a suppressive act for whoever inside the movement told her.

It just isn't done.

The only hope is to bypass their rules, and educate them in simple understandable terms, from the outside.

that is the sad hard task to breaking down, historically, the Scientology/Hubbard confidentiality penalty self silencing system that prevents their members from even absorbing the truth of Xenu and body thetans.

"This is Part 2 of The Truck Chronicles, stories from truck accident adjusters from David Morse & Associates, se.com), and how they have resolved truck accident claims by helping people and finding out the truth.

This one is from Ray Hemphill, truck adjuster from DM&A's Los Angeles office."

Someone just sent me this web site: It shows the divorce rate of SeaOrg (90%) and explains how many of them are coerced by the so-called church. Note Ms. congeniality, anti-shirtless lady was not spared:

The most pessimistic of reports state that one out of two American Marriage will eventually end in Divorce.

While most Churches will try to discourage divorce and encourage reconciliation, there is at least one who encourage divorce and Shunning as it first line of Control over its member`s lives.

When Churched seek to discourage divorce and encourage reconciliation, often the prime consideration is about the Children. It is normally viewed that both parents are meaningful forces in a child`s upbringing and being raised in a broken home is freuqnetly prejudicial to children.

The Church of Scientology is probably unqiue in its views that the above ideas about reconciliation, children and seeking to keep marriages together, is non-sense, except when it wants to keep a PR Façade.
In the Sea Org, being actually raised by the organization, rather han the parents if often viewed as beneficial, since it will train children from an early age to follow the group rules ad discipline while garanteeing zealot allegiance.

For its elite, The church has its most severe rules: When a staff member wishes to depart from one of the Church of Scientology numerous Sweat Shops, expresses disagreements or is found to have comitted a few out of a list of hundreds of `forbidden transgressions (mamy of them being omissions), separation of couples and families is enforced. Mebers can be declared Supressive, sent to the RPF, or reassigned to work on a different continent, without any regard as to their family. It is fully expected that among the duties of a Sea Org Member comes those of severing any connections to family or spouses whenever the CHurch Senior Management will see fit.

In my own case, the Etics Officer, Barbaro Weinnberg, even wrote "DUMP YOUR WIFE AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY", as the first step of a planned "reentry program". My intention to remain married to her was labelled by her as "A CRIME AGAINST THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY" and completely unacceptable. My refusal to exediently divorce was accompanied by an assignmen of a codition of TREASON (i.e betrayal)

In recent years, extremely harsh actions have been taken on Sea Org staff. Many have defected, many have been declared.

With its policy making it a Suppressive act the act of merely discussing one`s intentions to depart even when confiding to his or her spouse, staff are left with no choice than to make plans without informing their marital partner.

There are less than 1000 thousand Sea Org member at the location where he following divorces took place over the last few years. Many of those marriages had existed for decades, but one of the two members fell in disgrace, hence the other one was advised to divorce so as to keep himself `pure and uncontaminated`so he or she may perform his or her duties according to the Church Leadership`s wishes.

One can but ponder at an organization that claims to hold the Key to the Secrets of Communication and who professes to `be able to handle any condition or situation` who advocates the cutting of communcation and the refusal to handle conditions as the first approach in tackling those problems.

Someone just sent me this web site: It shows the divorce rate of SeaOrg (90%) and explains how many of them are coerced by the so-called church. Note Ms. congeniality, anti-shirtless lady was not spared:

The most pessimistic of reports state that one out of two American Marriage will eventually end in Divorce.

While most Churches will try to discourage divorce and encourage reconciliation, there is at least one who encourage divorce and Shunning as it first line of Control over its member`s lives.

When Churched seek to discourage divorce and encourage reconciliation, often the prime consideration is about the Children. It is normally viewed that both parents are meaningful forces in a child`s upbringing and being raised in a broken home is freuqnetly prejudicial to children.

The Church of Scientology is probably unqiue in its views that the above ideas about reconciliation, children and seeking to keep marriages together, is non-sense, except when it wants to keep a PR Façade.
In the Sea Org, being actually raised by the organization, rather han the parents if often viewed as beneficial, since it will train children from an early age to follow the group rules ad discipline while garanteeing zealot allegiance.

For its elite, The church has its most severe rules: When a staff member wishes to depart from one of the Church of Scientology numerous Sweat Shops, expresses disagreements or is found to have comitted a few out of a list of hundreds of `forbidden transgressions (mamy of them being omissions), separation of couples and families is enforced. Mebers can be declared Supressive, sent to the RPF, or reassigned to work on a different continent, without any regard as to their family. It is fully expected that among the duties of a Sea Org Member comes those of severing any connections to family or spouses whenever the CHurch Senior Management will see fit.

In my own case, the Etics Officer, Barbaro Weinnberg, even wrote "DUMP YOUR WIFE AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY", as the first step of a planned "reentry program". My intention to remain married to her was labelled by her as "A CRIME AGAINST THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY" and completely unacceptable. My refusal to exediently divorce was accompanied by an assignmen of a codition of TREASON (i.e betrayal)

In recent years, extremely harsh actions have been taken on Sea Org staff. Many have defected, many have been declared.

With its policy making it a Suppressive act the act of merely discussing one`s intentions to depart even when confiding to his or her spouse, staff are left with no choice than to make plans without informing their marital partner.

There are less than 1000 thousand Sea Org member at the location where he following divorces took place over the last few years. Many of those marriages had existed for decades, but one of the two members fell in disgrace, hence the other one was advised to divorce so as to keep himself `pure and uncontaminated`so he or she may perform his or her duties according to the Church Leadership`s wishes.

One can but ponder at an organization that claims to hold the Key to the Secrets of Communication and who professes to `be able to handle any condition or situation` who advocates the cutting of communcation and the refusal to handle conditions as the first approach in tackling those problems.

I thiink you might have the wrong person. Their own site shows Amy Hemphill to be in California. Plus, it doesn't make sense that a dedicated Scientologist would take a wog job in another state when there's so much work that needs to be done to clean up Teegeeak:

Amy is Lissa younger sister by 2 years. Lissa graduated from high school in 1993 her sister Amy in 1995 both were Hemphills back then

We know. Anon Orange had a knack for making claims based on false assumptions.. confusing Lissa's sister with another woman by the same name in Iowa. Lissa aka Elisabeth Dawn Hemphill married a Czech man, Martin Uvizl, so he could legally stay in the U.S. He later blew, was recovered and sent to Clearwater, where he blew again & return to his home in the Czech Republic. Lissa likes to claim she is married, but she divorced Martin in 2005 after he blew the 2nd time. Amy Laurie Hemphill Gavaldon lives in Palmdale with her husband Jorge. She's never been in the Sea Org.