I like the single ply hinoki... i think the quality is above average - a lot more feel. softer than my jonyer h but also much faster. i think the jonyer is more of an off- but these are definitely off to off+

@yorsh82 - I'm not sure what to choose, I wanted something similar to the sriver fx. any suggestions? I think the 729fxel or the 729 lightening may dull the blade a bit.

@grubbafan - As far as playing characteristics, they were quite close. I have a friend that has the Darker with Sriver EL rubers and I tried it before i purchased my senkoh (i'm just a butterfly fan). But from the perspective of aesthetics, the darker is far more attractive. but then it's also more than twice as expensive. The senkoh has an almost "unfinished" look to it. i find that appealing.

I have 2 one-ply hinoki blades and a H.S. Cryzer which is a 5-ply hinoki. I played with the Cryzer briefly this week and noted that it does loop well but didn't have the "feel" that my 1-ply blades do. I would classify the 5-ply as having a medium-hard to hard feel while my 1-ply blades are softer. I have Juic and Tibhar 1 plies.

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