the g@y dentist discussion was great, felt to me like something Leonard would write. I was at my local library the other day and almost picked up the two Rylan Givens books considering I just finished Road Dogs which connects Riding The Rap (I believe) to Out of Sight (and Maximum Bob)

I've said it before, I'll say it again, I'd love to see Carla Guigino guest star as Karen Sisco though I have no idea what that would take, legal wise. Micheal Keaton would be cool too.

I'm excited to see it getting a 2nd season, I would like to see an overall story (not that every episode has to advance the story but a general arc) maybe follow the general storylines behind Pronto or Riding The Rap

I couldn't agree more. The dynamic between Olyphant and Goggins alone makes it worth watching. Could do without Ava, even though, she did redeem herself slightly in my eyes in the latest epi. I'm also glad Art told Raylan and his stupid tail off, he so deserved it. I think I laughed through the whole tongue lashing he got, because he looked like he was being sent to the principal's office. No sign of his usual swagger and bravado then.

I must admit that, after a slow-burn over the first four or so episodes... this show has firmly found its feet... and their planted in good 'ol cowboy boots!

Even Oly-fantastic has grown on me despite a shaky start!

But now the show has Mr Friendly in it as well - as a shit-kicking, hillbilly crime lord!!! You can't go wrong!

Unlike V... or Flashforward... or Heroes... Justified has my full attention.

ps - Over the last nine episodes there have been 2 main actors from the film 'Cool Runnings' in it... wonder if someone involved in the production of Justified was on that project... not holding out much hope for John Candy showing up though.

Brit Pop wrote:ps - Over the last nine episodes there have been 2 main actors from the film 'Cool Runnings' in it... wonder if someone involved in the production of Justified was on that project... not holding out much hope for John Candy showing up though.

Now THAT is some good stats! Two points to Brit Pop! (go ahead and take $5 out of Petty Cash. You earned it!)

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Brit Pop wrote:ps - Over the last nine episodes there have been 2 main actors from the film 'Cool Runnings' in it... wonder if someone involved in the production of Justified was on that project... not holding out much hope for John Candy showing up though.

Now THAT is some good stats! Two points to Brit Pop! (go ahead and take $5 out of Petty Cash. You earned it!)

In the first episode I saw Doug E Doug in the credits, and remembered him as 'the funny one' out of CR... in the last episode I recognised the ex-ball player... and just had to IMDb him coz it was driving me mad what I knew him from...

Yeah Doug E Doug was the guy running the Marijuana church that Googins shot with the RPG, I knew I recognised the ex NFL guy from this weeks but I didn't know where from.

Great episode this week, that guy trying to get the money from Brewster from Fright Night was pretty terrifying, a character straight out of a Leonard story only toned down a touch, he probably would've killed the NFL guy and raped his wife in a real Leonard story. I hope we see him back in a future season.

John-Locke wrote:Great episode this week, that guy trying to get the money from Brewster from Fright Night was pretty terrifying, a character straight out of a Leonard story only toned down a touch, he probably would've killed the NFL guy and raped his wife in a real Leonard story. I hope we see him back in a future season.

Not only was scary guy a total Elmorian (did I just make up a word?) character, his idiot thug boxer guy was too. That's one of the main things I love about this show. The stories aren't necessarily written by Elmore Leonard, but it seems like the writers channel him when they do write. The characters and dialogue are right out of his world.

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John-Locke wrote:Great episode this week, that guy trying to get the money from Brewster from Fright Night was pretty terrifying, a character straight out of a Leonard story only toned down a touch, he probably would've killed the NFL guy and raped his wife in a real Leonard story. I hope we see him back in a future season.

Not only was scary guy a total Elmorian (did I just make up a word?) character, his idiot thug boxer guy was too. That's one of the main things I love about this show. The stories aren't necessarily written by Elmore Leonard, but it seems like the writers channel him when they do write. The characters and dialogue are right out of his world.

well he is an Exec. Producer so I'm assuming he has some say on how things are written.

But yeah both of those characters felt totally in place as something Leonard would write. I could totally see that boxer kid in Detroit working out in Snoopy's gym

Don't forget about two actors from Eurotrip, Jacob Pitts who plays Tim and Travis Wester who was the idiot thug boxer guy, who wasnt so tough when his own gun was aimed at his crotch by Ray Ray. And I'm sure I'm the only one in here that knows this, but both the actor that played Pinter (great character) and Olyphant appeared on Sex in the City. I'm sure there's a six degrees of Kevin Bacon in there somewhere.

Was it just me, or was Winona not very convincing while she tried to defend her man and choosing him over Raylan. I like how he asked her "How's that workin for ya?"

One of the things I've come to like about this show is that it has a sense of humor. I've gotten at least one good laugh from most of the episodes. Another thing I've noticed is the cast really plays well off of each other. A first rate job of casting was done for Justified.

John-Locke wrote:Great episode this week, that guy trying to get the money from Brewster from Fright Night was pretty terrifying, a character straight out of a Leonard story only toned down a touch, he probably would've killed the NFL guy and raped his wife in a real Leonard story. I hope we see him back in a future season.

Not only was scary guy a total Elmorian (did I just make up a word?) character, his idiot thug boxer guy was too. That's one of the main things I love about this show. The stories aren't necessarily written by Elmore Leonard, but it seems like the writers channel him when they do write. The characters and dialogue are right out of his world.

and that actor started out as the compulsive liar always-hitting-on-the-chicks no one takes seriously character in a late 80's/early 90's sitcom starring that guy who was the main dude in Taxi.......

John-Locke wrote:Great episode this week, that guy trying to get the money from Brewster from Fright Night was pretty terrifying, a character straight out of a Leonard story only toned down a touch, he probably would've killed the NFL guy and raped his wife in a real Leonard story. I hope we see him back in a future season.

Not only was scary guy a total Elmorian (did I just make up a word?) character, his idiot thug boxer guy was too. That's one of the main things I love about this show. The stories aren't necessarily written by Elmore Leonard, but it seems like the writers channel him when they do write. The characters and dialogue are right out of his world.

and that actor started out as the compulsive liar always-hitting-on-the-chicks no one takes seriously character in a late 80's/early 90's sitcom starring that guy who was the main dude in Taxi.......

John-Locke wrote:Great episode this week, that guy trying to get the money from Brewster from Fright Night was pretty terrifying, a character straight out of a Leonard story only toned down a touch, he probably would've killed the NFL guy and raped his wife in a real Leonard story. I hope we see him back in a future season.

Not only was scary guy a total Elmorian (did I just make up a word?) character, his idiot thug boxer guy was too. That's one of the main things I love about this show. The stories aren't necessarily written by Elmore Leonard, but it seems like the writers channel him when they do write. The characters and dialogue are right out of his world.

and that actor started out as the compulsive liar always-hitting-on-the-chicks no one takes seriously character in a late 80's/early 90's sitcom starring that guy who was the main dude in Taxi.......

That would be Jere Burns, who was on "Dear John" with Judd Hirsch.

Oh, I so totally did not have to look that up.

I don't know why, but I liked that show. The kicker is that I was 13. I still can't figure out how I gravitated to a story about a 60-year-old over the hill alcoholic who has really bad luck with women.

John-Locke wrote:Great episode this week, that guy trying to get the money from Brewster from Fright Night was pretty terrifying, a character straight out of a Leonard story only toned down a touch, he probably would've killed the NFL guy and raped his wife in a real Leonard story. I hope we see him back in a future season.

Not only was scary guy a total Elmorian (did I just make up a word?) character, his idiot thug boxer guy was too. That's one of the main things I love about this show. The stories aren't necessarily written by Elmore Leonard, but it seems like the writers channel him when they do write. The characters and dialogue are right out of his world.

and that actor started out as the compulsive liar always-hitting-on-the-chicks no one takes seriously character in a late 80's/early 90's sitcom starring that guy who was the main dude in Taxi.......

That would be Jere Burns, who was on "Dear John" with Judd Hirsch.

Oh, I so totally did not have to look that up.

I don't know why, but I liked that show. The kicker is that I was 13. I still can't figure out how I gravitated to a story about a 60-year-old over the hill alcoholic who has really bad luck with women.

BLACK CHERRY wrote:Don't forget about two actors from Eurotrip, Jacob Pitts who plays Tim and Travis Wester who was the idiot thug boxer guy, who wasnt so tough when his own gun was aimed at his crotch by Ray Ray. And I'm sure I'm the only one in here that knows this, but both the actor that played Pinter (great character) and Olyphant appeared on Sex in the City. I'm sure there's a six degrees of Kevin Bacon in there somewhere.

Was it just me, or was Winona not very convincing while she tried to defend her man and choosing him over Raylan. I like how he asked her "How's that workin for ya?"

You are not the only one who knows that, because I too am a Sex and the City (TV show) fan. Olyphant was Carrie's younger twenty something squeeze and wasn't Jacob Pitts that college guy who Samantha de-flowered? (I'm hijacking this thread with Sex n' the City talk, bitches!)

Anyway, I've really loved this season. As people have alluded to, the supporting characters are incredible...I really think that's the secret strength of any truly great show. Even an actor with just one or two scenes, or even one of two lines, is a perfect fit to fill out this particular world. The guy who plays Boyd is particularly effective, imo. I felt like this last episode I was just starting to get a real handle on his character...whether he's genuinely found God or if it's all some ruse...but I still wouldn't be surprised if I ended up surprised.

Oh yeah but Jacob Pitts is hardly ever even on screen. It's weird.I like this Jacob Pitts. Thought he was funny in Euro Trip. Give him an actual story or cut him loose and let him find something else. Just because he lot his v-card to Kim Cattrall...no reason to hold it against the man.

Talking about the characters... the majority of the supporting cast is so strong that the weak links (for me) stick out horribly. Thankfully, for me, there's only two characters that I feel this way about - and that's the other two marshals (not the head marshal). I don't know if it's the actors, their appearance, or the dialogue they're given, but they just seem to suck the energy out of their scenes.

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That was my biggest laugh the whole show. Goggins' delivery of his line there was one of the best single-line performances for me in a long time. I remember watching the pilot, loving it, and then thinking that if they drug on the Boyd story the whole season that it would get redundant quickly.That didn't happen.It wasn't necessarily the Boyd story as much as it was the Miami cartel's, and in the grand scheme of things it worked SO much better than I imagined.Fantastic first season. I hope the second* is even better.

*Can't remember if it was already renewed or not.

And Maui - I'm 100% with you. I like Raylan and Winona. She's smart, gets him, and hasn't killed her husband. I hope Ava is out of the picture now... it could get really soap opera-ish in no time.

Oh, one more thought.... when Arlo turned around with the gun.... Olyphant WAS Seth Bullock again with his gun drawn at his side. Awesome.

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John-Locke wrote:Great episode this week, that guy trying to get the money from Brewster from Fright Night was pretty terrifying, a character straight out of a Leonard story only toned down a touch, he probably would've killed the NFL guy and raped his wife in a real Leonard story. I hope we see him back in a future season.

Not only was scary guy a total Elmorian (did I just make up a word?) character, his idiot thug boxer guy was too. That's one of the main things I love about this show. The stories aren't necessarily written by Elmore Leonard, but it seems like the writers channel him when they do write. The characters and dialogue are right out of his world.

and that actor started out as the compulsive liar always-hitting-on-the-chicks no one takes seriously character in a late 80's/early 90's sitcom starring that guy who was the main dude in Taxi.......

That would be Jere Burns, who was on "Dear John" with Judd Hirsch.

Oh, I so totally did not have to look that up.

I don't know why, but I liked that show. The kicker is that I was 13. I still can't figure out how I gravitated to a story about a 60-year-old over the hill alcoholic who has really bad luck with women.

Maybe I was being optimistic.

or channeling your probable future . . .

Or being optimistic about my possible future. It could be worse . . . I could be Gary Coleman.

Walton Goggins deserves an Emmy nomination, in my opinion. He has been terrific in the role of Boyd Crowder. The show is one of the best on TV, for sure, and it is actually original. I can't think of another show like it.

I've noticed that the opening will often feature warnings about being for mature audiences, and promises of nudity in one episode. I didn't see any nudity, and the only swearing I've heard is the word "shit" a couple of times. The violence hasn't been all that graphic, either. I'm not complaining, I'm just noting the fact that the warnings haven't matched the content, in my opinion. I really was hoping to see a bit, uh, "more," of Winona when that nudity warning was mentioned. She and Raylan have real chemistry.