They say that each cigarette you smoke shortens your life expectancy by four minutes.

Show me the math.

1. One dick sucked reduces your life expectancy by .... minutes2. One vagina humped reduces your life expectancy by .... minutes3. One slice of cheesecake with fruit compote and a 12 ounce cup of espresso reduces your life expectancy by .... minutes4. One book by Danielle Steel read reduces your life expectancy by .... (not counting time lost reading)5. One hour doing laundry reduces your life expectancy by ... minutes.

Surely if we are going to be scientific about this and not just pick on people whose nasty habits we don't like (or like a little too much, if you catch my drift), then we should quantify the life expectancy cost of everything and then eliminate the worst factors first.

I'm guessing that there is very little life expectancy to be gotten from germ-contaminated holy water or spending your time on your knees polishing floor wax on the hardwood floors of your house or church.

I don't believe that prayer, marriage or going to church actually improve your life expectancy by one jot or iota. It is just a filter that eliminates most of the crack whores and heroin addicts from the running. That's where the "improvement" lies, not in the institution of marriage or religion. You'd get the same effect with a good bouncer named Gordie.

brantgoose:1. One dick sucked reduces your life expectancy by .... minutes2. One vagina humped reduces your life expectancy by .... minutes3. One slice of cheesecake with fruit compote and a 12 ounce cup of espresso reduces your life expectancy by .... minutes4. One book by Danielle Steel read reduces your life expectancy by .... (not counting time lost reading)5. One hour doing laundry reduces your life expectancy by 60 minutes.

Monday's meeting began with an invocation from a local pastor, the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance, honorary proclamations awarded to a recycling group and the pastors of a Lutheran congregation on the occasion of the church's 50th anniversary.

Pastor Ingqvist was a little uncomfortable with the ceremony; he knew that he was going to see pictures of him trying to smile in the middle of that hiccup while accepting the award, on every refrigerator and bulletin board for the foreseeable future.

So he's basically calling the recalled mayor a homosexuality (apparently a bad thing in his mind) and her supporters spoiled brats? Was that the gist of it? His prose was so torturous it was hard to tell.

So he's basically calling the recalled mayor a homosexuality (apparently a bad thing in his mind) and her supporters spoiled brats? Was that the gist of it? His prose was so torturous it was hard to tell.

Um... where the heck does the AUTHOR badmouth homosexuality or imply that Daniels was gay? Did you forget she was a woman and take the 'Iron Lady's Purse' comment as some kind of 'ooh, what a feminine mayor' insult?

The tone of the article is somewhat conversational instead of "I AM JOURNALBOT, HERE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPENED, FULL STOP", and assumes you know a little of what's going on beforehand, but it's not THAT confusing. Consequently, I enjoyed it.

Normal political criticisms were treated as devastatingly unfair personal attacks. Legal democratic processes were confused with assaults on their liberties. Expectations of professional behavior were perceived as unfair criticism of a political neophyte.

So he's basically calling the recalled mayor a homosexuality (apparently a bad thing in his mind) and her supporters spoiled brats? Was that the gist of it? His prose was so torturous it was hard to tell.

GAT_00:Dhusk: WTF did I just read? That is one wretchedly written article.

So he's basically calling the recalled mayor a homosexuality (apparently a bad thing in his mind) and her supporters spoiled brats? Was that the gist of it? His prose was so torturous it was hard to tell.

I'm guessing you think homosexuality is as dangerous as smoking.

Give him a break, I heard the guy's mom ate a pack of pussy a day while she was pregnant with him.

EnviroDude:brantgoose: They say that each cigarette you smoke shortens your life expectancy by four minutes.

Show me the math.

Every homosexual that died of HIV in the 80's agrees?

The thing that is really shameful about the ignorance of conservatives is this entire notion of "the homosexual lifestyle". I'm not sure if using that term is intentional or not, but I believe they generally use this term to refer to the frowned-upon practices of cruising public restrooms, bathhouses, or parks, looking for anonymous hookups and promiscuity in general. To conservatives, this is what it means to be gay, that is the homosexual lifestyle. There is no difference between just being gay and behaving promiscuously.

If we ignore for a minute that lots of the people looking for hookups in those ways are generally closeted, self-hating gays like the former Senator "wide stance" Craig or Ted Haggard, this "homosexual lifestyle" is just another way of saying "promiscuous", a behavior hardly limited to homosexuals and straight people who are promiscuous are equally at risk of health problems related to that "lifestyle".

Everyone agrees that promiscuous behavior, especially coupled with unprotected sex, is high-risk behavior but it is hardly limited to homosexuals. Some homosexuals behave that way. Some straight people behave that way and considering there are far far more straight people in this country, far far more straight people engage in this risky behavior. But because conservatives must believe that gay = bad because of their religion and, at least some realize that using religion isn't going to get them anywhere from a legal perspective, they must invent some legitimate sounding 'facts' to demonize the gays and justify their bigotry for the 'better of society'. And, of course, how do they want to combat this promiscuous behavior among the gays? By preventing them from getting married.

theknuckler_33:EnviroDude: brantgoose: They say that each cigarette you smoke shortens your life expectancy by four minutes.

Show me the math.

Every homosexual that died of HIV in the 80's agrees?

The thing that is really shameful about the ignorance of conservatives is this entire notion of "the homosexual lifestyle". I'm not sure if using that term is intentional or not, but I believe they generally use this term to refer to the frowned-upon practices of cruising public restrooms, bathhouses, or parks, looking for anonymous hookups and promiscuity in general. To conservatives, this is what it means to be gay, that is the homosexual lifestyle. There is no difference between just being gay and behaving promiscuously.

If we ignore for a minute that lots of the people looking for hookups in those ways are generally closeted, self-hating gays like the former Senator "wide stance" Craig or Ted Haggard, this "homosexual lifestyle" is just another way of saying "promiscuous", a behavior hardly limited to homosexuals and straight people who are promiscuous are equally at risk of health problems related to that "lifestyle".

Everyone agrees that promiscuous behavior, especially coupled with unprotected sex, is high-risk behavior but it is hardly limited to homosexuals. Some homosexuals behave that way. Some straight people behave that way and considering there are far far more straight people in this country, far far more straight people engage in this risky behavior. But because conservatives must believe that gay = bad because of their religion and, at least some realize that using religion isn't going to get them anywhere from a legal perspective, they must invent some legitimate sounding 'facts' to demonize the gays and justify their bigotry for the 'better of society'. And, of course, how do they want to combat this promiscuous behavior among the gays? By preventing them from getting married.

Anti_illuminati:brantgoose: 1. One dick sucked reduces your life expectancy by .... minutes2. One vagina humped reduces your life expectancy by .... minutes3. One slice of cheesecake with fruit compote and a 12 ounce cup of espresso reduces your life expectancy by .... minutes4. One book by Danielle Steel read reduces your life expectancy by .... (not counting time lost reading)5. One hour doing laundry reduces your life expectancy by 60 minutes.

That's all I got.

I'm having trouble answering this one because I don't know if the question means the actual time hands on or one wet cycle of laundry (my washer takes an hour and my dryer takes 1 hour, 15 minutes). If it's the second, then that really only takes me about 10 minutes, including the time to wait for the machine to fill.

Selena Luna:Anti_illuminati: brantgoose: 1. One dick sucked reduces your life expectancy by .... minutes2. One vagina humped reduces your life expectancy by .... minutes3. One slice of cheesecake with fruit compote and a 12 ounce cup of espresso reduces your life expectancy by .... minutes4. One book by Danielle Steel read reduces your life expectancy by .... (not counting time lost reading)5. One hour doing laundry reduces your life expectancy by 60 minutes.

That's all I got.

I'm having trouble answering this one because I don't know if the question means the actual time hands on or one wet cycle of laundry (my washer takes an hour and my dryer takes 1 hour, 15 minutes). If it's the second, then that really only takes me about 10 minutes, including the time to wait for the machine to fill.

You can get thrown out of your house as a teenager and end up home less, face social castigation in your peer group, fall prey to abusers that society gives even less of a shiat about than regular old hetero abusers, get thrown out of your own home because it was in your SOs name and you weren't (and couldn't have been married)

Was the recall of Troy's mayor supposed to be national news at some point? I feel like this story and its presence on Fark is supposed to indicate that we are should have some frame of reference as to what the hell the author (or the submitter) is talking about. So some partisan mayor got recalled...and? Was there something awful she did? I see no reference in the article to the headline's claim about homosexuality (unless I missed it).

I have mixed feelings about recalls regardless (you voted for this person, you should suffer the consequences Troy)

rtaylor92:Was the recall of Troy's mayor supposed to be national news at some point? I feel like this story and its presence on Fark is supposed to indicate that we are should have some frame of reference as to what the hell the author (or the submitter) is talking about. So some partisan mayor got recalled...and? Was there something awful she did? I see no reference in the article to the headline's claim about homosexuality (unless I missed it).

I have mixed feelings about recalls regardless (you voted for this person, you should suffer the consequences Troy)

Ditto. I work north of Troy (like, a mile away at most), and I still haven't the faintest idea what precisely made this woman a bad mayor, barring the idiotic comments she made. A faint bell rings in my head and sounds like "big money troubles", but I can't remember for what. A primer to bring folks up to speed would have been appreciated.

For people who don't know the Oakland County suburbs of Detroit, Troy is a weird place. There's a decent amount of of money in the town, but no social cachet whatsoever. It's a great place to live if you're upper-middle management or a doctor/lawyer/beancounter, but the real wealth is on the other side of Adams Road, in Birmingham and Bloomfield. The schools are good enough, but nothing special. Lots of high-end retail, thanks to the Somerset mall; plenty of jokes about taking the Big Beaver exit to get there. Commercial property seems to be holding up, although they're still trying to deal with the loss of Kmart's HQ.

Summary: A whole lotta frustrated white people who feel like they're being bled dry to pay for Detroit, even though their homes, wardrobes, and gadgets indicate otherwise.