But President Trump does NOT target people for fleecing. People who can barely afford to buy a new tire when they have a flat.

I worked with a small version of Pastor Osteen when I was younger. Pastor Astor's church generated $1.2 million. He paid his family $835,000 that
year. His weekly admonition to "Give till it hurts, and you will be blessed!", enabled his family to live very well. I remember helping people
jump-start their cars in the church parking lot, as he passed by in his limousine after service, one cold Sunday. In hindsight, I'm ashamed for
being sucked-in the way I was.

I will agree with you on the fleecing. 30 years ago, wife and I were members of a small SBC church, she was an accountant, and they asked her to be
treasurer. Within a couple of months, she discovered the pastor was stealing from the church, he sat in our home and accused us of being ensnared by
the devil. I haven't been to church since, and consider myself agnostic.

But President Trump does NOT target people for fleecing. People who can barely afford to buy a new tire when they have a flat.

I worked with a small version of Pastor Osteen when I was younger. Pastor Astor's church generated $1.2 million. He paid his family $835,000 that
year. His weekly admonition to "Give till it hurts, and you will be blessed!", enabled his family to live very well. I remember helping people
jump-start their cars in the church parking lot, as he passed by in his limousine after service, one cold Sunday. In hindsight, I'm ashamed for
being sucked-in the way I was.

I will agree with you on the fleecing. 30 years ago, wife and I were members of a small SBC church, she was an accountant, and they asked her to be
treasurer. Within a couple of months, she discovered the pastor was stealing from the church, he sat in our home and accused us of being ensnared by
the devil. I haven't been to church since, and consider myself agnostic.

Whoah.. Your pastor was blatant about it! At least mine stole the money by paying fat salaries to his 9 closest relatives. A true family affair.

Did you mis-read my post. I simply said that it was probably an insurance issue. I didn't voice an opinion at all. Personally, I would open the
doors, insurance or not, and take in people and do the best I could even if I wasn't fully prepared.

So...emotionally reactive people that jump to conclusions misunderstand sometimes because you're too...well...emotional!!

In a time of disaster, I really don't care about lawsuits or insurance, I try to do what is right. I am highly trained in first aid, have used it
many times, sometimes not successfully. I am not a Christian, but would expect one to act in the same manner. For you to make excuses for this
scumbag, I find disgusting.

Apparently, the Church is closed and services have been cancelled due to flooding. Pictures have been posted of the carpark and the interior showing
the water levels.

When a building that is higher than the surrounding terrain floods, usually the water comes from a pressure wave in septic and sewage systems. That
means that if it did flood, the interior would not be safe for habitation until it was drained and cleaned.

Also, if there is significant flooding on a building with a large and mostly unsupported roof, there may be physical damage that may make the the
building unsafe from physical collapse. To verify the building's safety usually requires engineering inspection.

Additionally, there are apparently eight staff onsite and the doors are not locked. The staff are either directing people to nearby shelters and are
ready to direct people to un-flooded parts of the complex, for those needing emergency accommodation. Apparently no-one has chosen to stay so far.

This whole thing is a social media beat up. A lie. Fake news designed to inflame the bigoted!

But President Trump does NOT target people for fleecing. People who can barely afford to buy a new tire when they have a flat.

I worked with a small version of Pastor Osteen when I was younger. Pastor Astor's church generated $1.2 million. He paid his family $835,000 that
year. His weekly admonition to "Give till it hurts, and you will be blessed!", enabled his family to live very well. I remember helping people
jump-start their cars in the church parking lot, as he passed by in his limousine after service, one cold Sunday. In hindsight, I'm ashamed for
being sucked-in the way I was.

I will agree with you on the fleecing. 30 years ago, wife and I were members of a small SBC church, she was an accountant, and they asked her to be
treasurer. Within a couple of months, she discovered the pastor was stealing from the church, he sat in our home and accused us of being ensnared by
the devil. I haven't been to church since, and consider myself agnostic.

Whoah.. Your pastor was blatant about it! At least mine stole the money by paying fat salaries to his 9 closest relatives. A true family
affair.

Mostly expense account crap, but then decided to pay his wife to watch his kids. He wasn't that smart, ex-wife had a 160+ IQ, figured it out pretty
quick.

Apparently, the Church is closed and services have been cancelled due to flooding. Pictures have been posted of the carpark and the interior showing
the water levels.

When a building that is higher than the surrounding terrain floods, usually the water comes from a pressure wave in septic and sewage systems. That
means that if it did flood, the interior would not be safe for habitation until it was drained and cleaned.

Also, if there is significant flooding on a building with a large and mostly unsupported roof, there may be physical damage that may make the the
building unsafe from physical collapse. To verify the building's safety usually requires engineering inspection.

Additionally, there are apparently eight staff onsite and the doors are not locked. The staff are either directing people to nearby shelters and are
ready to direct people to un-flooded parts of the complex, for those needing emergency accommodation. Apparently no-one has chosen to stay so far.

This whole thing is a social media beat up. A lie. Fake news designed to inflame the bigoted!

Keep making excuses for this scumbag, you display yourself for what you are.

originally posted by: seagull
So there isn't a book in the bible, the Gospels of Joel, wherein it is taught that one may fleece your flock and lock the temple when it is most
needed to shelter and feed them??

Stop being mean to him! Those people are really dirty and he just had the rugs cleaned.

In all honesty, I truly believe it actually came to
that, most likely from the wife. Honey!! the carpets...

Social media loves to get riled up and holier than thou over any situation, even if they don't know the facts. It makes people feel superior to tear
down others, whether justified or not. I'll wait to know the whole story before I judge Osteen's conduct.

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