At the end of my last cycle I was 190lbs. I've been cutting naturally for a month now. My goal with this upcoming cycle is to gain about 5-10lbs of Lean body mass and while losing some bf% in the process. My plan was to take a 6-8 week cycle of Hdrol 50/50/50/75/75/75/100/100 and Epistane 0/0/40/40/40/40. I've never taken Epistane before but I heard it's excellent for cutting/getting that hard look. My 2nd option was to go back to injections and do Anavar/Tren (or Winstrol). I'm not sure about the dosing but I was thinking maybe Anavar 30mg for 4 weeks ($239 for 100 pills is very pricey so I'd like to stay low on dosing if i can). I have no idea how to dose winstrol or Tren. Any help would be greatly appreciated!! Also if anyone needs some info I can provide my diet/workout/etc. Thank you

At the end of my last cycle I was 190lbs. I've been cutting naturally for a month now. My goal with this upcoming cycle is to gain about 5-10lbs of Lean body mass and while losing some bf% in the process. My plan was to take a 6-8 week cycle of Hdrol 50/50/50/75/75/75/100/100 and Epistane 0/0/40/40/40/40. I've never taken Epistane before but I heard it's excellent for cutting/getting that hard look. My 2nd option was to go back to injections and do Anavar/Tren (or Winstrol). I'm not sure about the dosing but I was thinking maybe Anavar 30mg for 4 weeks ($239 for 100 pills is very pricey so I'd like to stay low on dosing if i can). I have no idea how to dose winstrol or Tren. Any help would be greatly appreciated!! Also if anyone needs some info I can provide my diet/workout/etc. Thank you

What do you mean? My first cycle I didn't diet properly and only gained 5 pounds. On my next hdrol/fura cycle I gained 20lbs and kept 15. Boladrol/hdrol cycle I gained 10lbs.

What I mean is My first was oral turinabol (primordials halodrol) and if test ever became legal and I tried it then I'd never do another prohormone without a 10 week test base. You drank holy water, then drank purified water (2/3 of how long you should have drank it), then drank out of a toilet bowl with a shot of holy water in it each time

Tren and winstrol are two different poisons, not sure why its wrote like that..

If your doing prop go 12 weeks, test e or c or sust 10 weeks

Well I wasn't planning on taking both winstrol and tren at the same time. I was going to choose one or the other. Also could you help me with dosing? Also if possible I'd like to take some of these orally to avoid having to pin so much. thanks

What I mean is My first was oral turinabol (primordials halodrol) and if test ever became legal and I tried it then I'd never do another prohormone without a 10 week test base. You drank holy water, then drank purified water (2/3 of how long you should have drank it), then drank out of a toilet bowl with a shot of holy water in it each time

Ahh I see what you mean lol. Yeah I went to pills because I'm not a big fan of needles and I thought oral steroids would be just as effective.

Well I wasn't planning on taking both winstrol and tren at the same time. I was going to choose one or the other. Also could you help me with dosing? Also if possible I'd like to take some of these orally to avoid having to pin so much. thanks

Ahh I see what you mean lol. Yeah I went to pills because I'm not a big fan of needles and I thought oral steroids would be just as effective.

Several things I would like to point out. First your tbol dose is to low. 40mgs is very low for this compound I ran it at 60 and didn't notice a whole lot of course I was using tren ace too. I would at least use 50mgs. Secondly 250mgs of test two times a week not 500 once a week not 250 once a week. Finally do not expect oral winstrol to do much for you here's why. Oral winstrol is not a great cutting agent BY ITSELF although the injectable version is. The oral form of the drug works differently what is good about oral winstrol is that it greatly lowers shgb thus allowing other hormones to work more effectively this I would stack more tbol or some anabar with the winstrol.

Several things I would like to point out. First your tbol dose is to low. 40mgs is very low for this compound I ran it at 60 and didn't notice a whole lot of course I was using tren ace too. I would at least use 50mgs. Secondly 250mgs of test two times a week not 500 once a week not 250 once a week. Finally do not expect oral winstrol to do much for you here's why. Oral winstrol is not a great cutting agent BY ITSELF although the injectable version is. The oral form of the drug works differently what is good about oral winstrol is that it greatly lowers shgb thus allowing other hormones to work more effectively this I would stack more tbol or some anabar with the winstrol.

Ok so I'll bump the tbol up to 60mgs a day. With the 250mgs of test twos a time week is that more effective than 500mgs once a week? Lastly what if I use the oral winstrol earlier in my cycle so that I'm using it while I'm still on test? I was thinking about changing it to week 6-9.

12 wks on tes e is the standard if there is one. It really takes 4wks to kick in so the 2wks extra goes a long way. The test will be in your system and still working for 2wks after you pin last, so start the winny late and take advantage of the extra time you will have ON cycle.

I'm ordering my gear tomorrow. Only thing left for me to work on is the diet. I've been looking at other logs and people are gaining a ton of mass AND losing body fat off test. Right now I'd say I'm at around 12% BF. I was thinking about starting my calories at 4000 (40/40/20). Is it reasonable for me to expect to lose 3-5% Body fat and gain 5-10lbs of mass in one cycle? My main goal of this cycle is to get absolutely shredded. Thanks.