Re: MSPNP Alltrac owners...some f/b please!

gt4tified wrote:Overall, is it good value for money for a standalone EMS for a street car with moderate power mods?

Is it as easy to install as they claim, especially for someone with no prior experience?

Is it easy to tune a base map for different sized injectors and cams?

Does it offer boost control integration with an ebc as well as with a standalone wideband afr system?

Good value yes

The next two questions are based on your skill. It is not plug and play, and you have to assemble the board yourself. Which if you have never done before or are not to proficient there is a chance you can mess it up. In any case if your not a tuner you should not be tuning it anyway, because again there is a good chance of messing up your engine

There is no such thing as a base map, there are maps to start the car and thats really all they are good for. You should never drive around with these maps, the EMS should be professionally tuned. You can unlock portions of the software to use auto tune with your wideband, and boost control with a compatible solenoid.

Re: MSPNP Alltrac owners...some f/b please!

Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:01 am

I was looking into this as well and i have talked too the CS of diyautotune and they said that it would work with stock ignition, isc valve and other things that previously didn't work. Sequential injection is an add on, as well as closed loop boost control.

Re: MSPNP Alltrac owners...some f/b please!

Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:58 am

There base tune can be used. I did add MS to my corolla and started tuning with the base map it generated. Mind you, I did a small amount of research, was very conservative and slowly did street tuning. So, you can get it driving safely with knowledge and street tuning, but a good dyno tune would help too.

Re: MSPNP Alltrac owners...some f/b please!

Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:51 pm

You may be thinking of a different MS variant like the DIYPNP; the MSPNP is a complete, assembled unit that is ready to take out of the box and install. With the DIYPNP, well, the DIY comes before the PNP. You do need to add a post-intercooler IAT to use the MSPNP on these cars.

Re: MSPNP Alltrac owners...some f/b please!

Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:24 pm

Matt Cramer wrote:You may be thinking of a different MS variant like the DIYPNP; the MSPNP is a complete, assembled unit that is ready to take out of the box and install. With the DIYPNP, well, the DIY comes before the PNP. You do need to add a post-intercooler IAT to use the MSPNP on these cars.

Yes, Matt is right. I created this thread to enquire specifically on the MSPNP for the alltrac. Matt, maybe you can answer those questions of mine that pertain?

Re: MSPNP Alltrac owners...some f/b please!

Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:13 pm

So whatever happened with this? I have been considering buying this as a first mod sooner rather than later. Not to see any gains but to delete the maf and monitor what is going on with the motor as maintenance and bolt ons are added. Also how complex is the mspnp? The only tuning device i have ever owned was a Diablosport handheld flash tuner when i had my 05 Srt-4. I learned alot from that thing and it was pretty fun making my first street tune and playing with the numbers adding fuel and doing pulls trying to get the knock straitened out. Finally got it dialed in too with good quality gas from shell.