rwbman007 wrote:I'm sure I'll find something else to make you look like an idiot before too long.

Me?

I'm not the one arguing that 2 + 2 = 5.

The numbers are in. The statistics have been compared.

Tighter gun laws result in fewer gun deaths (including suicides). What's not to like about that?

They don't affect homicides, which is having someone killing you against your will. I'm much more worried about that than someone killing themselves. Idiot. Proven in the table I posted. Futher, I gave you another table that shows the relationship between race and homicides using a firearm. Google the percentage of african americans in the states with the highest rates of firearm homicides. You will find that they are much higher than the states with the lower firearm homicide rates. Stats are racist though. I then gave you table proving that "assault rifles" aren't the problem, but you want to ban them anyway without a valid reason. You lose, just like always.

So, when it comes down to the statisticians showing me proof and evidence that tighter gun laws result in fewer deaths ([b]including suicides because I do care about other people[/b]) vs. you blaming higher gun deaths on African American populations, I'm gonna go with the nerds any day. I'm betting most sensible Americans will join me.

Especially when you stand there -after the Sandy Hook shooter and the nut job that lured fire fighters into a trap BOTH used the SAME GUN- telling me that "assault rifles aren't the problem."

rwbman007 wrote:I'm sure I'll find something else to make you look like an idiot before too long.

Me?

I'm not the one arguing that 2 + 2 = 5.

The numbers are in. The statistics have been compared.

Tighter gun laws result in fewer gun deaths (including suicides). What's not to like about that?

They don't affect homicides, which is having someone killing you against your will. I'm much more worried about that than someone killing themselves. Idiot. Proven in the table I posted. Futher, I gave you another table that shows the relationship between race and homicides using a firearm. Google the percentage of african americans in the states with the highest rates of firearm homicides. You will find that they are much higher than the states with the lower firearm homicide rates. Stats are racist though. I then gave you table proving that "assault rifles" aren't the problem, but you want to ban them anyway without a valid reason. You lose, just like always.

So, when it comes down to the statisticians showing me proof and evidence that tighter gun laws result in fewer deaths ([b]including suicides because I do care about other people[/b]) vs. you blaming higher gun deaths on African American populations, I'm gonna go with the nerds any day. I'm betting most sensible Americans will join me.

Especially when you stand there -after the Sandy Hook shooter and the nut job that lured fire fighters into a trap BOTH used the SAME GUN- telling me that "assault rifles aren't the problem."

Keep it up. You're making my case for me.

I just gave you proof. Untouched, unbiased charts from government sources, it's easy for most anyone to see. Im sorry, but a gun that is used in less than 4% of all firearm homicides is not a problem. You just fall prey to all the sensationalist media reportings. Everything that I have said I have backed up with cold hard facts. Too bad you can't do the same.

By the way, including suicides in these numbers is pretty ridiculous. Suicide is a mental health issue. Banning guns due to people committing suicide is like banning spoons for obese people who die of heart attacks and heart disease.

Ill try another question for you, its going to make you look stupid if you answer it, so I don't expect one, but you may surprise me. Read this first

Ill include the pertinent part here since I'm going to assume your are lazy since you are fat.

Each year, roughly 7,000 blacks are murdered. Ninety-four percent of the time, the murderer is another black person.

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, between 1976 and 2011, there were 279,384 black murder victims. Using the 94 percent figure means that 262,621 were murdered by other blacks. Though blacks are 13 percent of the nation's population, they account for more than 50 percent of homicide victims. Nationally, black homicide victimization rate is six times that of whites, and in some cities, it's 22 times that of whites. Coupled with being most of the nation's homicide victims, blacks are most of the victims of violent personal crimes, such as assault and robbery.

After reading that, do you think that states with higher african american populations have higher firearm homicide rates? Why or why not?

There are more of those facts which are mimicked by the tables that I posted earlier. Since the homicide rates of african americans is disproportionately higher than the rest, it follows suit that there states with higher populations would have higher homicide rates. You can't argue that. Call me racist all you want because its faux pas talk about it for some reason, but facts are facts. The black community knows it, and many want to change it. You can't change it though unless its ok to recognize it and accept it. That's the main problem with liberals, if it doesn't suit their agenda, it doesn't exist. Case in point here.

Dwain Wilson wrote:Then, according to your logic, wouldn't America be safer if we just banned black people?

Here is how you answer a question instead of dodging them.

It's not logic, all you have to do is look at the stats. If a state has fewer black people, the state has fewer firearm related homicides.. Prove me wrong...you can't and you know it.

You and the rest of the liberals get off on trying to force your unsupported views on everyone else, when people like me just want equal rights for everyone and to be left alone to live life as I see fit with the rights afforded to my by God and the constitution, which includes my right to own a semi automatic rifle. There are way more of us who believe in the right to own guns than there are of tree hugging opinionated fat **** liberals like yourself. Get used to it.

"when people like me just want equal rights for everyone and to be left alone to live life as I see fit with the rights afforded to my by God and the constitution, which includes my right to own a semi automatic rifle."

That's a noble statement, 007. I own many guns, but there are folks I have come across that I would rather not have those rights. I know they are entitled, but there are folks around today that act as aliens to this constitution and God.

All the past data doesn't seem as good argument material as it once did. I understand your view completely, but do you think that you will continue to hold your beliefs in the future?

As an example, when I was a kid, queers were... well ..queer. I could count all of them on one foot. Today, I would have to be a centipede.

Racism is a sickness that cannot be tolerated from either side, while there is some truth in what you have spouted there is no excuse for your b/s.There are just as many white trash out there. what we dont need to tolerate is lazy worthless people of any stripe. and our tolerance of criminals of any breed has to stop.

We must follow the constitution if this nation has any hope of a future.

There is a middle ground somewhere and it must be found. not gonna preach but what a better world this would be if we just followed the ten commandments.

gurguan wrote:There are many, many benefits to be realized from sending the darky tribe back where they belong. Yes, it will dramatically reduce crimes with firearms, but it will also dramatically reduce many other types of crime -- aspecially violent crime. There will be far, far fewer lazy parasites living off the hard-working taxpayers with Food Stamps, Medicaid, Section 8 housing, AFDC bastid-subsidies, cell phones for thugs, etc. Our public school systems will no longer be overrun by the writhing, screeching, ignorant horde. Yes, my friends, the long dark night will end and it will truly be Morning In America once again

There are just as many white parasites as there are black. Please do us all a favor and don't pro-create. Thanks.

kdmotley@lexcominc.net wrote:Racism is a sickness that cannot be tolerated from either side, while there is some truth in what you have spouted there is no excuse for your b/s.There are just as many white trash out there. what we dont need to tolerate is lazy worthless people of any stripe. and our tolerance of criminals of any breed has to stop.

We must follow the constitution if this nation has any hope of a future.

There is a middle ground somewhere and it must be found. not gonna preach but what a better world this would be if we just followed the ten commandments.

I don't know if this was directed towards me or not. I hope it isn't because I don't see how stats are racist. I believe in equal rights for all, but I call a spade a spade and I'm not afraid to say it. If you can prove me wrong, by all means do so and I'll be happy to apologize.