Dose anybody have a new rifle chambered for this new rim fire? If so, how do you like it? It sounds kind of cool. A little .17 boat tail bullet moving at 2500fps sounds fun. I was looking at a Marlin in SS.

ZiggyTheMauserGuy
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(6/29/02 9:57:45 pm)
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Just got one yesterday, shoots great. Trigger is heavy, approx. 9lbs and the included scope rings are too low for much of a scope. I was able to shoot a 15rd group @ 100 yds measuring 1 1/8". I "adjusted" the trigger (replaced larger spring with a lighter one) and threw on some Millet high rise mounts for one of my better scopes. I feel confident I will easily shot 3/4 - 1" @ 100 from now on.
Oh, with 15 round groups even.
Gary M

mad5757
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(7/1/02 1:23:30 pm)
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If they are that accurate, then why haven't they shown up at IR 50/50 matches? You hear the same stories about incredible accuracy from 10-22's but I never see one at our benchrest matches. If you can easilly shoot 3/4 inch groups at 100 yards then you will win any competition I have ever attended and competed in.
Am I missing something here?
Mad`

LIKTOSHOOT
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(7/1/02 1:57:10 pm)
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I have heard great results at 100 yards and much better than 1". A .22 mag will do the same. Where they loose me is the claimed 150-200 yard line. Claims of 1" still with the flyweight .17 grain bullet. Drop is excessive and a 5mph wind will drift it over six inches. It has replaced nothing, but na-sayers claim , it`s here to stay. What does it do better, noone damn thing.....just has cute little bullets. LTS

LTS don't ya know nuthin. That extra 3 grains will make that itty bitty thing an elephant gun out to a mile.
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No there isn't, or if there is it's wrong...it's the 17HMR (Hornady Magnum Rimfire) (AKA HuMmeR)

Mad5757 said
"If they are that accurate, then why haven't they shown up at IR 50/50 matches? "

1) because the IR50/50 rules are for 22LR only magnums of any flavor are not legal.
2) The supply has been running way behind the demand, with some people having waited 6-8 months still not having rifle and/or ammunition.

LTS said
"I have heard great results at 100 yards and much better than 1". A .22 mag will do the same. Where they loose me is the claimed 150-200 yard line. Claims of 1" still with the flyweight .17 grain bullet. Drop is excessive and a 5mph wind will drift it over six inches. It has replaced nothing, but na-sayers claim , it`s here to stay. What does it do better, noone damn thing.....just has cute little bullets. LTS"

and got almost everything backwards. (Which is unusual for him)
22 Mag will not generally do the same,
Drop is MUCH less than 22 Mag, as is wind drift in a 5mph breeze. Which is exactly what it does better.

Warpig asked
"What is a ir 50/50 match?

A rimfire benchrest competition santioned by the USRA organization. 25 shots for score at 50 yards and/or 50 meters, one shot per record bullseye, 3 sighters are also on the target. 20 minute time limit per match. For more info go to Benchrest.com and click on the IR50/50 logo (www.ir5050.com/)

Xracer wrote
"Expensive to shoot, non-reloadable, and of very limited use. Hope you enjoy that gun while ammo is available, 'cause pretty soon, when the hype wears off, you'll have a neat wall hanger."
"Sorry to be so negative, but I've been around a long, long time, and I've seen this same scenario play out time and time again. "

Expensive? Maybe, for now. But not as expensive as a good 22LR rifle shooting match ammunition. Which is the only way to come close to the same accuracy.
Limited use? No more so than 22LR, and at much greater ranges.
Wall hanger? I don't think so. Not so long as there are 22 magnum cases (even if you have to pull bullets), Lil Gun powder, and 17 caliber bullets. LOL. This cartridge was being wildcatted from these components BEFORE the 17HMR came out, and can be done again if need be. You apparently thought it suffered the same fatal flaws as the 5mm Rem Mag with it's unique case dimensions and unique tooling requirements. The 17HMR avoids both of these flaws. But the 5mm Craig made use of them, so even the 591 and 592 5mm Remingtons are no longer "wall hangers" and are in fact getting between 2500 and 2600 fps with 30 grain bullets. Remington bringing the 5mm back would be the only real threat to the 17HMR.

Glad I have stock piled 100,00 rounds of that stuff.....gonna be rich.

The last twenty plus years the .22 mag has had limited success....why? Main reason...COST!!!

Now with cheaper cost and better rifles, it is begining to go down in cost and quality. Oh sure....the .17HRM is just going to jump right out there at three times the price......Okey-dokey.

the real fredneck
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(7/2/02 11:58:24 pm)
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Hey Vibe77
just went to check if that thread on the 17 HMR (or HFR or HRM have seen each used in the gun rags) had been poofed. . . nope it's still there . . . need I say more????????????

Smallest 100 yd group I've seen with the .l7 HRM has been around 1 1/2" out of a high dollar Ruger/scope combo. 'Course, we've been having 5 - 15 mph cross winds during this time and maybe this has had a little something to do with the 17 gr pill getting to 100 yds!
"Keep Off The Ridgeline"

warpig883
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(7/7/02 10:43:48 am)
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I wonder what the energy of a 17 ANYTHING is at 1000 yards. Can't hardly be enough to penetrate anything could it?
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