Just like Tangradi, the Pens didn't have time to wait for Boychuk to develop. It's sortof silly that they claimed him in the first place, wasting time on him that should have been given to Jeffrey.

I'm not sure what the organization thinks of Jeffrey at this point. He's proven a capable performer in pretty much every role he's been given. Yet he's used only as a fill-in... I hope that he sticks around next season to replace Cooke or Kennedy, as he's cheaper and seems like potentially a more effective player at this point. The only knock on him would be that he hasn't proven he can perform over an 82 game season; but he hasn't been given a chance either. His value in a trade < his potential value to this team as an effective 3rd liner (who can move up and down the lineup ala Dupuis, Talbot, etc.) making under $1m.

pcm wrote:Just like Tangradi, the Pens didn't have time to wait for Boychuk to develop. It's sortof silly that they claimed him in the first place, wasting time on him that should have been given to Jeffrey.

I'm not sure what the organization thinks of Jeffrey at this point. He's proven a capable performer in pretty much every role he's been given. Yet he's used only as a fill-in... I hope that he sticks around next season to replace Cooke or Kennedy, as he's cheaper and seems like potentially a more effective player at this point. The only knock on him would be that he hasn't proven he can perform over an 82 game season; but he hasn't been given a chance either. His value in a trade < his potential value to this team as an effective 3rd liner (who can move up and down the lineup ala Dupuis, Talbot, etc.) making under $1m.

Just like Tangradi

Even now that he had a chance and is back down to the lowest ice time on a team that was going to give him a "real chance" you can't admit that he's a turd. Impressive. I stopped reading after that first line.

pcm wrote:Just like Tangradi, the Pens didn't have time to wait for Boychuk to develop. It's sortof silly that they claimed him in the first place, wasting time on him that should have been given to Jeffrey.

I'm not sure what the organization thinks of Jeffrey at this point. He's proven a capable performer in pretty much every role he's been given. Yet he's used only as a fill-in... I hope that he sticks around next season to replace Cooke or Kennedy, as he's cheaper and seems like potentially a more effective player at this point. The only knock on him would be that he hasn't proven he can perform over an 82 game season; but he hasn't been given a chance either. His value in a trade < his potential value to this team as an effective 3rd liner (who can move up and down the lineup ala Dupuis, Talbot, etc.) making under $1m.

Just like Tangradi

Even now that he had a chance and is back down to the lowest ice time on a team that was going to give him a "real chance" you can't admit that he's a turd. Impressive. I stopped reading after that first line.

Agree. It's not about "getting a chance" or "waiting for development" in Tangradi's case...he's simply a marginal at best NHL player that is greatly hindered by mediocre-to-poor skating and a rather obvious lack of competitiveness at the NHL level. Sometimes chances have to be earned and then taken advantage of when presented; Tangradi fails on both of those.

One plus Boychuk has over Tangradi is that he's a good skater by NHL standards. You can give a guy that can move more chances than an upright slug who doesn't seem to be 100% mentally there on every shift.

Guys like Rich Peverley and Juicy Jokinen came off the scrap heap of the NHL to become productive players because they had great work ethics and just kept working until they got another chance and then made it. Boychuck has a great opportunity for himself in Nashville and no star forwards or proven scorers surrounding him to take away playing time. He'll not get a better chance to stick in the NHL than what he has in Nashville and he'll also learn what being a two-way forward is all about very quickly in Trotz's system.

Glass tied Bonvie last night for most games played as a Pen by a non-goalie without a Point. But No. I just don't see Boychuk as a 4th line role. Though they have the same number of points as a Pen.

re Waiver rules... since the Pens had previous, would Pens be able to claim & send him down to WBS? (assuming we're not at contract max?) (Also assumes he's not claimed by someone with a higher waiver priority)

Hmm...I believe if he made it around to Pittsburgh again, yes, we could claim him and send him down without requiring waivers again. Don't hold me to that though as it's extremely rare. We will not I don't believe. I think Carolina will probably nab him (their AHL club needs help), waive him once more and send him down.

mikey287 wrote:Carolina has claimed Zack Boychuk. I think they just put two players on IR, so he'll likely stick with the club for now.

If waived, he still has to clear waivers since Pittsburgh was his most recent team prior to Nashville waiving him, correct? Is that how that works? Or can Carolina now waive him and its not required to clear waivers?

Your question confused me with the wording, but I think your intent was, "can Carolina just send him down to the AHL now?" and the answer is no. He must first clear waivers. If all 29 other teams pass on him, he can go down. If Nashville re-claims him within a certain window, he can be assigned to their AHL affiliate without re-requiring waivers, AIUI.