-Kino Der Toten is the most popular zombies map out of all the maps that 3arc has made.

-Some of you may be thinking, "Well, why would we want the same old black ops 1 map, when I bought BO2 for a NEW EXPERIENCE?" My answer to that would be, "3arc brought back Nuketown and Firing Range, and they are probably the most popular maps on BO2, so why the heck not Kino Der Toten?

-Kino is most everyone's, including mine, very FIRST zombies map, so Kino is special to us.

-We have to wait until 2015 for BO3, so can we have a 5th DLC?

-Buildables are a wildly popular addition to BO2, so it could also be in the BO2 version of Kino.

-Kino has the best map format, layout, atmosphere, landscape, whatever you want to call it. I always liked that everyone kind of stuck together until the power turns on. And even then, people usually stick to the theatre, or close by in the lobby. And if someone got down, they were fairly easily accessible, unlike Die Rise, where it was basically impossible to revive someone unless they were on the same floor as you.

-There would obviously be changes to Kino Der Toten. And some that I would like to see are:

1) Obviously, new guns, Wonder-weapons.

2) A new section added to the map, or some type of extension to the map. I would prefer for it to be outside.

3) Double pack-a-punch to help with the higher rounds (40+).

4) BUILDABLES and new Easter eggs/side quests

5) New Boss round type thing (MAYBE!!!). I'm fine with the dogs, but maybe something new would be cool.

In conclusion, a 5th DLC probably won't happen. I'm sure 3arc is done with BO2 and working completely on BO3 now. Every zombies map besides Kino Der Toten and maybe Mob of the Dead has failed to get me hooked on it. So Treyarch, hire a small team of game designers to work on a 5th DLC. Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking for a DLC with new Multiplayer maps! Solely a zombie DLC. Its not too late to come out with a new map. We have to wait until late 2015! It shouldn't cost much to produce a new Kino Der Toten, so why not? I think this could be a hit or miss type thing. So Treyarch, you could potentially make a lot of money from this, or not and you wouldn't lose much.

right. just curious what you use because most US Americans never use cinema. also on a side note; kino translates to theater directly, not cinema.

Kino der Toten actually translates to Cinema of the Dead. The reason it is known as Theater of the Dead Stateside is that you guys don't use the word 'Cinema'. Theater in German is still just Theater because they do not use the term theater at all so there is no translation for it. It would then be known as Theater der Untoten.

Maybe open from another language stance, but from straight German to English, which is the case here, it is definitely 100% Kino = Cinema.

Most Austrians speak straight German, so translation would still be identical, but others speak Austro-Bavarian, and that differs greatly from German. I don't know of any direct way to translate Austro-Bavarian, but if your cousin is NOT an Austro-Bavarian speaker, then he is still translating it wrong. Only the accent in Austrians differs from Germans. Wording and pronunciation should still be the same.

I actually speak German, so my knowledge of the language is decent enough. I am also very good with my geography and history... especially European. I am 99.9% sure that Austro-Bavarian speaking Austrians occupy southern Austria, nearer the borders of Slovenia and Hungary, as opposed to the German side which is nearer Northern Austria.

The Austro-Bavarian language derived from a mixed culture throughout the years, featuring Serbians, Croatians, Yugoslavs, Hungarians and Russians who all occupied Southern Austria at points in time. Not 100% on that one though, but I am pretty sure I remember that being mentioned somewhere.

Actually here in the U.S. we just say, lets go to the MOVIES. The Movies is known as the Cinema. You are right though. Theater is for plays and what not. movies shown on the big screen is considered a Cinema. HOWEVER ! a Theater with a retractable big screen like KINO, can be both. here in Houston Texas we have AMC Theaters, and EDWARDS Cinema.. both of which you can watch a movie. If a play is what you want, go to Downtown Houston's Theater District.

The EE involves movie (film) reels and the stage has Projection Screen which makes me think it is a cinema lol, but in the introduction scene at the start Richthofen does say "In this theater of the dead"

Don't know why everyone likes Kino so much? I may be in the minority on this but I personally didn't like it and it would probably be in my bottom 4 of favourite maps. I've been playing religiously since WAW though so it wasn't my first taste of Z's.

If there was to be a 5th DLC with old maps I'd rather have nacht, shi no numa and Verrukt with pap added or some new perk machines. Nacht with DT 2.0 would be awesome.

I agree, I didnt like Kino all that much. It was my 1st Zombie map I ever played. Don't get me wrong it doesn't suck..I just think that Kino is so popular becuase everyone has it. If you bought Black ops, you got Kino. My Nephew is an really good Zombie player. For a long time, all he had was Kino. Till his 14th B-day when I bought him BO2 and all maps from 1 & 2..well just MOTD, Origins/Buried hadn't dropped yet. He still goes back to Kino just like I always go back to Der Riese.

Hated kino. Id be incredibly disapointed if we got it in Bo2, i would even prefer nacht over it. Dont understand why people like it, unless its just the nostalgia of what it was like playing it on Bo1 for the first time, but for me after learning the map for the first time i didnt like it, and didnt get into Bo1 untill ascension came around.

If we got kino i probably would never play it even if it were included with my season pass, its just not a very good map to me.

No thanks. Kino is extremely dull and the layout is plain stupid. And story wise it's completely worthless, they jumped into the future yay... They could've easily explained/implied that in the ascension loading screen And started there. Kino just plain bugs me because of how people obsess over it. I would prefer moon to come back, or Der riese. Or better yet a new map. curious to see how richtofen is enjoying the physical world XD

Death is right, Ascension had a lot to do with Richtofen's Grand Scheme because it's what got us to Call of the Dead but storyline wise it's not. Ascension has it's own story and that's about it besides it being the precursor to his plan.

Actually if a new map were to come then I'd like it for the most take place after Richtofen's ending. Maxis' was a big **** YOU to everybody and it was something not worth my time (just a max ammo? Guess that's what we get for taking the easy way).

honestly i dont really care what map it is, i'd gladly accept any map remake on BO2. new perks, weapons maybe even wunderfizz and buildables implemented. (lets not forget multiple PaPing wasn't avaliable either) I feel like a 4 or 5 zombie map pack would be most likely. individual maps would be pretty good. standalone disk would be ideal (but i dont see that happening)

secondly since so many of you are talking about kino i had a question. if you walk into the dressing room from the stage and go right, there is a door (top half is missing so you can look in, bottom half is still there) inside amongst other things are two chests. if someone else is holding the last zombie and you're standing by this door. you can hear faint knocking (i can anyways. they're few and far between sometimes but they are there.) now ive searched and searched and I have no idea what this is at all. i dont even find a mention of it. anybody know what this is or at least know of it so i know im not crazy?

I do remember reading about this, i dont know if this information is correct but i think no one has completed the EE, we got as far as launching the rocket in one of the teleporting rooms and after this there was reports that if you throw a monkey in this room the knocking will stop, yet i myself only got as far as the rocket and as usual get the lough throwing monkey out of the map.

Your not crazy. There is actually several spots around the map that have various sounds emitting from them, like beside Speed Cola.

Like Boybad said, there was early rumors of an EE, but I think the sounds are just ambient sounds added to give the map a creepy atmosphere. I have heard all sorts of possible steps in Kino that lead to an EE, but none of them amounted to anything. I think they majority of them were just small, mini EE's as opposed to an actual side quest style EE.

I even saw a video where the Dev's were discussing EE's and how they wanted to make Der Riese have a bigger EE (which is confirmation it doesn't!), and that when they integrated the EE into Ascension, it was the first time they had attempted a multi-step quest style EE for zombies, which kind of confirmed that Kino DIDN'T have one.

i was wondering because well like i said ive never seen anything on it, but also because the only level that i know of with creepy sounds at certain areas is verruckt and it makes perfect sense for that map, it was an asylum! finding out its nothing more than some creepy audio is slightly disappointing but im glad to finally know what it is. so thanks!

going back to dlc, how amazing would it be if they went back finished the EEs on der riese and kino if they did remakes?! (i know that wont happen but just a thought!)

Kino will always have a special place in my heart cause that's the map I used to get my girlfriend into zombies, which she loved. So its one of my most played maps that she still wants to play here and there till this day.

But Nacht was such a great beginning. I remember beating WaW and not even knowing about the Zombie mode till I was in it. A great simple map with an awesome atmosphere that fit the game and zombies perfectly. My favorite zombie experience was the first 50 or so times I played it with friends split screen, trying to keep the zombies outside for as long as possible. Then we realized it was better to let the early round ones in for more points, but there was something great about picking them off as they came out of the trenches outside. Back when round 13 meant something. As you said, I'm very glad I got my start on Nacht.

i got to start on nacht but not a whole lot. i didnt own the game my cousin did. I didnt keep up on forums and such so i only knew what we found out while playing.

when i got BO1 i was amazed at kino. it had so much more stuff. Perks, traps, PaP and more! nothing couldve started you off like nacht did, but kino is still a good starting map with how un-complicated it is.

Kino was my least favorite map on Black Ops 1. I don't really no what it was, but i just didnt like the atmosphere of the map. There are only a few maps I dislike more than this one.(Nuketown, Town, Farm, Bus Depot) It's the only map I don't really want to come back. I think playing since WaW made me dislike it because of how different it was. Once the better improvements were made like PhD Flopper and more interesting side quests, that's when I started to warm up to Black Ops 1 style zombies. On the other hand, I did really like the wonder weapon. Having it on ascension made me stay far from Kino though.