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Didn't know where else to post this but if anyone is a big fan of Trevor Rabin check out some of his music for the Disney World ride 'Mission: Space'. It's a pretty cool companion to Armageddon, although nothing has been officially released unfortunately.

Here's the area suite, not the best quality but it gives you a general idea....
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mpolonest123

2017-11-30 04:28:27

Main theme at 20:00.

rockhound

2017-11-30 10:07:02

sounds great. the theme at the beginning and the drums are pure rabin. i love it.

Bayhem

2017-11-30 13:34:24

Pretty awesome, thanks for sharing.

By the way, since we're on the BB2 page.....I finally found the film version of the badass "We ride Together, We die Together" music. That piece (the one a lot of people were looking for) was missing from the Tapia Has Syd track. Don't know why....

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rockhound

2017-11-30 17:05:26

i think the second version of Tapia has Syd sounds much better, because the theme goes through the whole track and is much more intense. sadly they didn't use this.
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Bayhem

2017-12-01 14:23:10

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Were the YT links considered spam? Because they weren't.

Damien, Moderator

2017-12-01 20:34:57

No, they were not spam.At least one of them claims "I do not own the rights for this music". So he does something illegal despite he knows it. I did'nt look in detail to others, but none since to be related to some legal source.

You know, a lot of people complain about the fact that Mancina was dropped from the project, along with his cues from the original movie, but if you think about it you'll see that it makes perfect sense. It makes sense why Michael and Jerry wanted a different sound. Look at the two movies: the first Bad Boys is a contained, low-budget buddy-cop action comedy. While Bad Boys 2 is literally a full-blown $130 million blockbuster movie. It's bigger and more epic in every sense of the words.

And as much as I like the themes from the original, a similar sound would not, IMO, have been appropriate for the sequel. And clearly both Michael and Jerry felt the same way. The movie itself is much "heavier" and bombastic and it makes sense that they brought in Trevor and Steve. I mean, I like Mancina a lot but Rabin is, IMO, better with those big, epic movies. And, if you're able to focus only on the second movie, without comparing its sound to the first one, you'll realize that the score is actually pretty damn good. Big, bombastic, energetic with some pretty solid emotional cues.

Yes, the Mancina score for the first one is more melodic and it absolutely deserves its cult status, but I really feel that the BB2 score is very underrated, exactly because the BB1 score is so popular and beloved. Because of that very reason some score fans simply refused to accept the Rabin/Jablonsky score, even though, as I already stated, it's actually a very effective and competent score. It fits the movie perfectly. Again, this is my opinion and I know it might be unpopular. I just think that there's more than meets the eye when it comes to the BB2 score.

P.S. Harry Gregson-Williams worked on the BB2 score?? Hmm, interesting, considering that he didn't get along with Michael while they were working on Armageddon. I guess they were able to put their differences behind them. Or maybe Gregson-Williams's involvement was not that significant....

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Leonard Dante

2017-11-14 03:07:53

Maybe, but my interpretation goes to another way.

Zimmer did not want to do Armageddon, Bruckheimer calls Mancina and he's busy with Tarzan.

So, ok, let's find another guy from MV.

Glennie Smith worked with Brukeheimer the same year with "Man with Iron Mask" and in 1996 with "The Rock", but the music production of the two films was troubled. We will not repeat this again.

Who will be next? Rabin and HGW.

Jablonsky was the next when Rabin and HGW lost the interest in working with Bay or otherwise.

Per

2017-11-14 08:34:19

I don't think Bruckheimer had anything to do with The Man In The Iron Mask...

Bayhem

2017-11-14 08:37:39

Personally, I've never heard of Bruckheimer wanting Mancina for Armageddon. Maybe I missed it...As for Zimmer, he actually did some work on Armageddon.

The Man with the Iron Mask is not a Bruckheimer production though. Nick worked on most of Bruckheimer films (as a conductor or composer), starting with Crimson Tide and Bad Boys 1. As for Rabin and Harry Gregson-Williams, I doubt they suddenly lost interest because after Armageddon and Enemy of the State they were involved in one way or another in quite a few Bruckheimer or Bay projects. Hell, Rabin was hired by Bay Films to score I Am Number Four in 2011. And I'm sure that they will work again in the future. At the end of the day, it's not unusual for a director to go from one MV/RC composer to another. Tony Scott did it, Bay did it, Antoine Fuqua did it, Ridley Scott did it.

rockhound

2017-11-14 08:55:41

zimmer was in talk, maybe already hired for Enemy of the State, because i remember that i saw his name in the first trailer. but for whatever reason, rabin took over and because rabin was at the same time very busy with Jack Frost, they asked harry to help out again. this time with a co-composer credit. im sure zimmer was never in talk for Armageddon and trevor was first choice for bruckheimer, because he already scored Con Air almost alone. but because it was such a big project and bay is a complicated director, trevor got alot of help.

same with Bad Boys 2. mancina and bay had creative differences and when it was clear, that he was out, trevor took over. but as always with bay, it was a difficult task and maybe also not enough time. thats why trevor got alot of help again. Bad Boys 2 has the typical bay sound, which his movies have until this day. i would love to have an official release, because it is a great actionscore.

We ride together we die together that track on here is on separate tracks the first part is tapia has sid but not till the end about half way and the part u need to join it with is called hallway hope this helps

This contains very good parts unfortunately never used in the movie (they prefered Dr Dre's "Additional Music" 0_0)... And a real complete with all what Rabin and the MV Team wrote (Jablonsky, Morris, Wesson, Duncan etc.) would be great...

And why not Mancina's rejected score too ? :-P

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Grumpywinter

2013-11-15 19:04:07

Where do you find this CD or download the songs I have been looking for it for years....

Damien, Moderator

2013-11-15 22:22:34

As any score marked 'Bootleg' or 'Unofficial' release, you can't get this information here.

Does anyone know wich track is used in the scene where the quote "we ride together- we die together-bad boys for life" and people start gathering to help in the rescue of Marcus´s sister Syd?? I can´t find it anywhere and it does not seem that its on this soundtrack. I hear something similar but not exactly the track which is used in the movie.

hgw make not tapia house shootout!!!syd`s cover is blown the last 40 seconds... is reprise in this trackbad boys 2 score ist only composed from trevor rabin! additional music by steve jablonsky & paul linford! look on trevor rabin fan site!

But after Rabin came in, he had several problems too (who hasn't with Bay ? It's always a mess !!!) !

Check this bootleg, it contains at least 25 minutes not in the film ! Many things got replaced !

The "Tapia Has Syd" film version contains the beginning of the Rabin track listed here, with the end fully reworked by Jablonsky (sounding like Transformers :P) !!!

And as usual, Bay/Bruckheimer requested a lot of people to work on it ! So Jablonsky worked with his friends Trevor Morris & Clay Duncan... And HGW was asked to provide a cue, which he did with Mel Wesson & Toby Chu !

HGW's cue is the "Tapia House Shootout" at the end of the film (with the rocket launcher etc...), quite hard to hear it with the LOADS of SFX !!!! :D

If anyone had bothered to read the liner in the Bad Boys complete score, you would found out the actual story. Mark Mancina had a meeting with Bay and Bruckheimer. Mark wanted to continue the themes and expand on the music from the first movie. Michael wanted more percussive/driving music. Mark didn't want to go with that route, so Rabin was brought in, along with Steve Jablonsky and others. Though I've never heard of Harry's involvement in the score. Can anyone verify this?