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Surefire Torches

I've seen one of these torches in action and was very impressed. It was very bright and could've been used for lamping. However, I didn't find out what sort it was.

There are loads on Fleabay and I've bid on a couple, but they seem to go for silly money. There also seem to be loads of copies.

Does anyone know their way around the Surefire range and if so, can you make a recommendation for one of the cheaper ones that I can use for general work and a bit of occasional lamping (for foxes on way back to the car etc.). There seem to be loads, some six volt, some twelve. I've seen one that looked like a light sabre, but it was over a ton, which is too much for me to spend on a torch.

I managed to pick up something similar from ebay, it was a package that included a charger, 2 Li-ion 18650 batteries and the torch and cost £20 all in. The torch itself is very well made and if it had some recognised brand written on the side, it would have cost several times more!

Having said that, the electronics seem to be a bit dodgy in that there's a power saving mode that kicks in far too early, but for the price I'm not bothered, I'll probably buy another one from China for £5-£10 now that I've got the batteries and charger.

3 golden rules i found out when researching , for weeks . 'ALL' these lamps is

1- Dont trust the lumens , as bigger lumen , does not mean more light ( the chineeses boast 320 lumen maybe 190 etc )
2- Dont think for a moment £120 uk lamp is any better than a chineese £20 lamp !! (they are the same, with out all the extra uk ££ slapped on )
3- Dont think you can lamp with them, there great for spotting,upto 200yds & saves the cluson. But you cannot identify your target after 70 yds !!

If you wish to know which is the best, with quality & a full recharge kit to boot, pocket...yes pocket torch, (better than cluson 500,000 c/p & futher than you can shoot in the dark capabilities ) PM .