Everyone relax: President-Elect Trump is different than Republican Nominee Trump.

Trump said those things. Those were Trump quotes I used. Did you watch the video? Trump has expressed on more than one occasion that he'd appoint
those justices with the aim that it would change so that it's once again a state decision.

Either way, what about my greater point? That what Trump's actual stance is, is not the thing to be most concerned about. If you look at his list of
people he might appoint to these positions, you'll see a history of being anti-LGBT among those conservatives. Trump being 'fine' with the 2015
decision (should that be true) doesn't translate to his appointed justices following suit.

I was going to let your point ride because, like I said, I cannot prove that candidate trump is not the same as president trump (although I've said I
suspect it), nor that he will or won't nominate the justices he's mentioned before.

I would humbly suggest we hold him accountable when he actually makes a nomination, or when he makes a statement like one of the above now that he's
won the election.

Many close to the Trump campaign describe Bannon as "less Breitbart and more pragmatist."

Given Trumps "art of the deal" mentality, I have wondered if Bannon is there to help him manipulate a certain segment of the population. In my
opinion, the same segment Bannon has been manipulating for profit for quite a while now.

Having been paying attention to what all is going on there are a few things that can be stated:

The new President Trump is in a lot of trouble right now. He is ill prepared for being in that position, not considering many things that the
upcoming administration is supposed to do, along with having a conflict of interest charge hanging over him and his administration.

From what the reports are stating, he is not returning calls to the various departments to proceed with the transition of power from Obama to him, nor
was he aware or realizing how much work he has to do right now, before he raises his hand and takes the oath of office, even asking and wanting
security clearance for his children, who will be running his business while he is president, and not wanting to stay in the White House and spending
time in New York at his home there.

To make matters worse, the head of his transition team, Pence is not focused on that, but on other stuff, nor planning to step down as Gov of Indiana
until Jan, 9. This does not bode well at all for the new administration as it appears as though they are not taking this seriously and could do some
harm to the country.

How is Trump ill-prepared when compared to anther two term president who I do not think has ever held a real job and was a junior senator with no
executive experience when he took the White House. Those are just facts. Not making anything up just facts. He got a shot. No buildings were burnt
down. No outside influences causing disruption. 8 years and he showed his experience. He may not be the worst president ever but he certainly is not
in the running for the top 10.

He is and will be the same person he has always been. Unpredictable? What is wrong with that. The world stage learned to see the US punch and now it
is time to change it up.

I would humbly suggest we hold him accountable when he actually makes a nomination,

I'm not contesting that. I agree with it.

This wasn't about whether we are justified in holding him accountable right now for actions he may take, it was about whether we should feel relaxed
about it or not. I'm merely saying there is cause to not feel so relaxed. I would say there is good reason to feel worried.

Hmmmm, yes, it would benefit Trump for Bannon to be there to help manipulate, as well as having it profit at least Bannon (if not a Trump children
business, which could be a future joint venture with Bannon, if and when he leaves public service).

Of course the Trump campaign will talk nice of Bannon, his being "pragmatic".
Former employees say that "he would regularly order
subordinates to write stories that supported his allies and tore down adversaries", which to some might be pragmatic but which I would call just being
an a-hole.

If Karl Rove was "Bush's brain", and if Steve Bannon is now "Trump's brain", then woe to those who become Trump adversaries, which seems to be a
sizable part of the population. Bannon makes Rove look like a choir boy.

This does not bode well at all for the new administration as it appears as though they are not taking this seriously and could do some harm to the
country.

Over the years, I have always enjoyed your posts, whether I agree with them or not. This post is one I do agree with, and I see a looming nightmare.
It would seem that a POTUS elect needs to hit the ground running on day one. The Presidency is not meant for on-the-job training. The only Pres who
ever had to make up as he went along was George Washington, and Donald Trump is no GW. Our nation's original leaders elected GW, and 227 years later
we rejected their wisdom and elected someone unfit to fulfill the job.

Maybe we should have run the campaign more like The Apprentice and assigned him tasks to competently complete. We could have avoided this looming
nightmare by yelling, "You're fired!" Instead, I'm left being scared.

I would humbly suggest we hold him accountable when he actually makes a nomination,

I'm not contesting that. I agree with it.

This wasn't about whether we are justified in holding him accountable right now for actions he may take, it was about whether we should feel relaxed
about it or not. I'm merely saying there is cause to not feel so relaxed. I would say there is good reason to feel worried.

Well, given that your form of being less than "relaxed" involves posting in a civil manner on a message forum, I'd say we'll be okay. I was more
trying to address the people who have gone off the deep end.

To me, it's quite unclear what we're going to get in a Trump presidency.

originally posted by: matafuchs
How is Trump ill-prepared when compared to anther two term president who I do not think has ever held a real job and was a junior senator with no
executive experience when he took the White House. Those are just facts. Not making anything up just facts. He got a shot. No buildings were burnt
down. No outside influences causing disruption. 8 years and he showed his experience. He may not be the worst president ever but he certainly is not
in the running for the top 10.

He is and will be the same person he has always been. Unpredictable? What is wrong with that. The world stage learned to see the US punch and now it
is time to change it up.

Yep, a 1 trick pony.

Funny how everyone still thinks they know better what to do than him.

Trump is a babe in the woods. lol!!

I think he is going to have to pull a lot of his punches with these other world leaders and the Dems.

For about two decades now, Republicans have been talking about radically changing the government’s two largest health insurance programs,
Medicaid and Medicare.

The goal with Medicaid is to turn the program almost entirely over to the states, but with less money to run it. The goal with Medicare is to convert
it from a government-run insurance program into a voucher system ― while, once again, reducing the money that goes into the program.

Trump has said this:

in a 2015 interview his campaign website highlighted, he vowed that “I’m not going to cut Medicare or Medicaid.”

HOWEVER

But the health care agenda on Trump’s transition website, which went live Thursday, vows to “modernize Medicare” and allow more
“flexibility” for Medicaid.

In Washington, those are euphemisms for precisely the kind of Medicare and Medicaid plans Ryan has long envisioned. And while it’s never clear what
Trump really thinks or how he’ll act, it sure looks like both he and congressional Republicans are out to undo Lyndon Johnson’s health care
legacy, not just Barack Obama’s.

For about two decades now, Republicans have been talking about radically changing the government’s two largest health insurance programs,
Medicaid and Medicare.

The goal with Medicaid is to turn the program almost entirely over to the states, but with less money to run it. The goal with Medicare is to convert
it from a government-run insurance program into a voucher system ― while, once again, reducing the money that goes into the program.

Trump has said this:

in a 2015 interview his campaign website highlighted, he vowed that “I’m not going to cut Medicare or Medicaid.”

HOWEVER

But the health care agenda on Trump’s transition website, which went live Thursday, vows to “modernize Medicare” and allow more
“flexibility” for Medicaid.

In Washington, those are euphemisms for precisely the kind of Medicare and Medicaid plans Ryan has long envisioned. And while it’s never clear what
Trump really thinks or how he’ll act, it sure looks like both he and congressional Republicans are out to undo Lyndon Johnson’s health care
legacy, not just Barack Obama’s.

Like I said Republican establishment crony

Well, that's disconcerting. The more painful they make everyone's medical bills, the faster we're going to get to single payer.

I sure hope his term is not a catastrophe, but right now his transition team is

tweet from Eliot Cohen, " a Johns Hopkins professor who served in the State Department under Condoleezza Rice, [who] was asked by a Donald Trump
transition aide for recommendations on assembling the national security team"

I've been telling you guys that Trump is a Democrat since day one. LOL

I don't have enough fingers on my hands to count how many Democrats he's supported and funded throughout the years. To be fair he's supported
Republicans too. Hillary was at his wedding for God's sake. As I've said before there's not much difference between Trump and Hillary policy wise.
The wild card here is Pence but we've had "Christians" in the white house before.

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