When I installed mine, it made the front half of the car feel less like it was held together with sheet metal screws and made it feel more like it was one solid piece, like a modern car. COMPLETELY changes the feel of the car.

If you have stiffer than stock front springs, these are a must. Otherwise you're relying on the strength of your floor pan to absorb the shock from the front.

Daryll, I just installed coil overs, new ball joints and everything else is build new, but there is a HUGE difference after these braces were installed. Mostly in the feel of the car. Feels like a modern car. Firm and still smooth.

Had a little trouble negotiating around the braided brake lines, but squeezed them around the brace. It's just the way I routed my brake lines. That area needs freshening up anyway as the paint on the booster is bad and the ss lines have corroded too much for my liking so when I get to that I'll move the lines so I don't end up with any rubbing.20180702_213619 by Elwood Duffey, on Flickr

Had to trim the fender mounts a little on the firewall for the bracket to rest flat...I'm not sure if this is mentioned in the instructions, (misplaced) and it wasn't mentioned in the yoube video I used as a guide. This was the only surprise and the the only issue keeping these from being completely a bolt on and go install. EDIT: Had I not misplaced my instructions I would have known that the extra washers were to overcome the lip I cut off. Seems obvious now that I know, but I'm OK with the trimming as well.

I did these after work and I didn't even start until 7:30pm. I went for my test drive just as the sun was setting, a little over two hours later. (tools put away but hood still off car.) These pass and surpass the best 'Bang for the Buck' of anything I've done to the car. I can't wait to get the alignment Friday so I can put some highway miles on.

Duff, I did not get a PM from you but I did get an email that I responded to.

As for the fender mod. we supply about 16 washers to use in spacing the brace tab to help clear the lip on the fender that you cut off, step 4 in the instructions., itis posible that you could still have interference with the spacer washers but you could bend down the offending tab on the fender.

..."As for the fender mod. we supply about 16 washers to use in spacing the brace tab to help clear the lip on the fender that you cut off, step 4 in the instructions., itis posible that you could still have interference with the spacer washers but you could bend down the offending tab on the fender".

They are the best thing you could do for a 2nd gen along with subframe braces & solid body mounts. It's a tight fit in my 73 TA with AC, but they work wonders. No more creaking going up and down curbs as the body is flexing!

So it would make a difference or be worth it? I definitely am NOT trying to say anything bad about your product at all. Just do not want to buy something that does not make things better than before if that makes sense?

So it would make a difference or be worth it? I definitely am NOT trying to say anything bad about your product at all. Just do not want to buy something that does not make things better than before if that makes sense?

Yes, the last piece you need. Will make a big difference. They were the last thing I added. Made a night and day difference. I'm using all of Dave's pieces on my car. You might also consider the cross brace that goes between them up by the firewall and his Wonderbar copy. It's a brace that goes between the front frame rails and bolts to the sway bay bolts. Then you should be done!