If anyone thinks that he 90s Pacers, Knicks, and Pistons were real competition for the Bulls, they're lying to themselves.

The Bulls even without Jordan were killing these teams.

In 93-94 the Bulls were 10-4 against them and 11-3 against them in 94-95.

You're both right and wrong.

The 88-91 Pistons gave the Bulls everything they'd ever wanted. They were the Everest the Bulls had to climb. That's not the '93-95 Pistons, which were piles of shit.

The Knicks were far better teams in '92 and '93 than '94, but they were fortunate to dodge a Jordan-less Bulls and overcome a not-yet-ready Pacers team. They ultimately dropped from the ranks of contenders, then rebuilt themselves with Van Gundy into a group of muggers who won 75-73 streetfights in the mid-late 90s.

The Pacers didn't hit their stride until about '96. From that point they were the Bulls' stiffest challenge in the East.

It's an apples an oranges comparison really. The shit you did to succeed them isn't allowed today. The athletes today weren't around back then. The league was more top heavy then while talent is spread out now. I agree the league was better then, but there is a lot of good talent in today's NBA. It's like comparing two different sports.

Lots of talent today. Coaches are having a hard time making them into teams nowadays though. I sound old, but I think it's a generation thing. As crazy as it sounds, I think the egos are even more out of control now than ever making it harder for coaches. A lot more kids coming into the league now that aren't ready plays a part in that (thanks to the one and done, not all are like that though, but heck most don't even make it in the league 5 years).

Not much NBA because it isnt what it once was. But you got the Lakers forming a mega team or attempting to. The Clippers, the Heat, the Celtics did it.

That's what I thought. No need to go further when you are arguing about something you don't watch. I love people who lay down absolutes without being informed. You opinion is based on five second sports center blurbs.

The NBA has to be viewed through several different prisms. The NBA of about '83-'93 was a golden age. By '94 the offensive quality of the league started to drop precipitously and the quality of basketball slowly declined throughout the rest of the decade. By 2000 it was nearly unwatchable, but the rules changes, and two great teams that should have won titles but had them stolen, the Kings and Suns, helped to usher in a much better and more interesting brand of basketball with influences from European styles of play.

That's what I thought. No need to go further when you are arguing about something you don't watch. I love people who lay down absolutes without being informed. You opinion is based on five second sports center blurbs.

I watch enough to know what the **** im talking about. You got teams trying to build super teams to win. Thats why the NBA isnt what it once was. Shut the **** up. Im informed i watch enough to know

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Alex Smith is really talented. BIG arm, very mobile. The injury is really just bad luck.

Lots of talent today. Coaches are having a hard time making them into teams nowadays though. I sound old, but I think it's a generation thing. As crazy as it sounds, I think the egos are even more out of control now than ever making it harder for coaches. A lot more kids coming into the league now that aren't ready plays a part in that (thanks to the one and done, not all are like that though, but heck most don't even make it in the league 5 years).

That's where I would favor the old NBA. The teams today don't play the team basketball. Raw talent wise it's very impressive right now though.

That's what I thought. No need to go further when you are arguing about something you don't watch. I love people who lay down absolutes without being informed. You opinion is based on five second sports center blurbs.

I watch it when it matters the playoffs and big regular season games. Its just not that exciting as it once was.

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

Alex Smith is really talented. BIG arm, very mobile. The injury is really just bad luck.

If anyone thinks that he 90s Pacers, Knicks, and Pistons were real competition for the Bulls, they're lying to themselves.

The Bulls even without Jordan were killing these teams.

In 93-94 the Bulls were 10-4 against them and 11-3 against them in 94-95.

You are way out in left field here. The Knicks took the Bulls to 7 one year... then the next year had home court advantage and took a 2-0 lead on the Bulls in the ECF.

During the 2nd three-peat the Pacers pushed the Bulls to the max. You need to go watch those games. They were absolute battles to the death. The 98 Pacers/Bulls series might be one of my favorite playoff series of all time. They made Jordan and Pippen look human.

Everybody looks back on these things as if they were all forgone conclusions for the Bulls. They absolutely were not.

I watch enough to know what the **** im talking about. You got teams trying to build super teams to win. Thats why the NBA isnt what it once was. Shut the **** up. Im informed i watch enough to know

You should be informed enough to know that with the new CBA teams aren't going to be able to follow Miami's model because the tax will ****ing fist them. Why do you think OKC dumped Harden for 40 cents on the dollar?