[Discussion]How to actually fix recessed chin without surgery

KrissKross

A disciple of Lord Nibba

Apart from surgery or injections. What can be done to naturally grow the mandible/chin forwards. Roids? HGH? Diet? Test?
Mewing seems to not work for chins as Astro is still a chincel despite being the Mew God.
So what options do we actually have?

androidcel

Zephir

SomethingOff

PhD in Moggology

Chewing promotes jaw growth. But it has to be exhausting and high resistance for a short period (30 mins to an hour), and not mediocre intensity for many hours.

I think people's issue with assuming bone changes can't happen in adults is lack of consistency and intensity. No one actually puts in the effort needed over the long, long period of time it takes for bone to grow in adults.

KrissKross

A disciple of Lord Nibba

Chewing promotes jaw growth. But it has to be exhausting and high resistance for a short period (30 mins to an hour), and not mediocre intensity for many hours.

I think people's issue with assuming bone changes can't happen in adults is lack of consistency and intensity. No one actually puts in the effort needed over the long, long period of time it takes for bone to grow in adults.

SomethingOff

PhD in Moggology

Here is a source that studies how mastication (chewing) affects the face.
A quote about the correlation between the chewing muscles and facial shape:

"There is quite a lot of literature exploring the relationship between muscle thickness or maximal bite force and craniofacial morphology( 74 ). It has been reported that subjects with thin masseters have a proportionally longer face, which could be due to the lack of both bone and muscle volume( 75 ) and lower bizygomatic and intergonial width( 56 ), while subjects with a higher bite force have a short lower anterior face height( 59 , 62 ), a small mid-face inclination, a large mandible and occlusal plane inclination( 17 , 57 ), and a smaller jaw, leaving less space for the eruption of teeth( 76 )."

I don't know all the terminology, and they did mention that patients with high bite force have "smaller jaw", but a large mandible is quite literally a "big jawbone". Lower bizygomatic and intergonial width means quite literally that the midface is more narrow (bizygomatic width) and the jaw more narrow (intergonial width)

Your question was if it can make the jaw come forward, but at least this is proof that chewing does impact bone growth, at the very least.

Though the study also claims we reach our full development at 18... We need more research on bone growth and development in adults. It is clear that the palate can be expanded nonsurgically in adts, that means bone growth still occurs in the face to some extent, which is why I theorize that graining the chewing muscles can impact the mandible of an adult.

dotacel

6'3 Manlet

Here is a source that studies how mastication (chewing) affects the face.
A quote about the correlation between the chewing muscles and facial shape:

"There is quite a lot of literature exploring the relationship between muscle thickness or maximal bite force and craniofacial morphology( 74 ). It has been reported that subjects with thin masseters have a proportionally longer face, which could be due to the lack of both bone and muscle volume( 75 ) and lower bizygomatic and intergonial width( 56 ), while subjects with a higher bite force have a short lower anterior face height( 59 , 62 ), a small mid-face inclination, a large mandible and occlusal plane inclination( 17 , 57 ), and a smaller jaw, leaving less space for the eruption of teeth( 76 )."

I don't know all the terminology, and they did mention that patients with high bite force have "smaller jaw", but a large mandible is quite literally a "big jawbone". Lower bizygomatic and intergonial width means quite literally that the midface is more narrow (bizygomatic width) and the jaw more narrow (intergonial width)View attachment 49213

Your question was if it can make the jaw come forward, but at least this is proof that chewing does impact bone growth, at the very least.

Though the study also claims we reach our full development at 18... We need more research on bone growth and development in adults. It is clear that the palate can be expanded nonsurgically in adts, that means bone growth still occurs in the face to some extent, which is why I theorize that graining the chewing muscles can impact the mandible of an adult.

KrissKross

A disciple of Lord Nibba

Here is a source that studies how mastication (chewing) affects the face.
A quote about the correlation between the chewing muscles and facial shape:

"There is quite a lot of literature exploring the relationship between muscle thickness or maximal bite force and craniofacial morphology( 74 ). It has been reported that subjects with thin masseters have a proportionally longer face, which could be due to the lack of both bone and muscle volume( 75 ) and lower bizygomatic and intergonial width( 56 ), while subjects with a higher bite force have a short lower anterior face height( 59 , 62 ), a small mid-face inclination, a large mandible and occlusal plane inclination( 17 , 57 ), and a smaller jaw, leaving less space for the eruption of teeth( 76 )."

I don't know all the terminology, and they did mention that patients with high bite force have "smaller jaw", but a large mandible is quite literally a "big jawbone". Lower bizygomatic and intergonial width means quite literally that the midface is more narrow (bizygomatic width) and the jaw more narrow (intergonial width)View attachment 49213

Your question was if it can make the jaw come forward, but at least this is proof that chewing does impact bone growth, at the very least.

Though the study also claims we reach our full development at 18... We need more research on bone growth and development in adults. It is clear that the palate can be expanded nonsurgically in adts, that means bone growth still occurs in the face to some extent, which is why I theorize that graining the chewing muscles can impact the mandible of an adult.

Cretinous

Enthusiast

Here is a source that studies how mastication (chewing) affects the face.
A quote about the correlation between the chewing muscles and facial shape:

"There is quite a lot of literature exploring the relationship between muscle thickness or maximal bite force and craniofacial morphology( 74 ). It has been reported that subjects with thin masseters have a proportionally longer face, which could be due to the lack of both bone and muscle volume( 75 ) and lower bizygomatic and intergonial width( 56 ), while subjects with a higher bite force have a short lower anterior face height( 59 , 62 ), a small mid-face inclination, a large mandible and occlusal plane inclination( 17 , 57 ), and a smaller jaw, leaving less space for the eruption of teeth( 76 )."

I don't know all the terminology, and they did mention that patients with high bite force have "smaller jaw", but a large mandible is quite literally a "big jawbone". Lower bizygomatic and intergonial width means quite literally that the midface is more narrow (bizygomatic width) and the jaw more narrow (intergonial width)View attachment 49213

Your question was if it can make the jaw come forward, but at least this is proof that chewing does impact bone growth, at the very least.

Though the study also claims we reach our full development at 18... We need more research on bone growth and development in adults. It is clear that the palate can be expanded nonsurgically in adts, that means bone growth still occurs in the face to some extent, which is why I theorize that graining the chewing muscles can impact the mandible of an adult.

Lorsss

Erudite

Apart from surgery or injections. What can be done to naturally grow the mandible/chin forwards. Roids? HGH? Diet? Test?
Mewing seems to not work for chins as Astro is still a chincel despite being the Mew God.
So what options do we actually have?

bonecel

No cope zone

"There is quite a lot of literature exploring the relationship between muscle thickness or maximal bite force and craniofacial morphology( 74 ). It has been reported that subjects with thin masseters have a proportionally longer face, which could be due to the lack of both bone and muscle volume( 75 ) and lower bizygomatic and intergonial width( 56 ), while subjects with a higher bite force have a short lower anterior face height( 59 , 62 ), a small mid-face inclination, a large mandible and occlusal plane inclination( 17 , 57 ), and a smaller jaw, leaving less space for the eruption of teeth( 76 )."