I think thats a bit unfair to say for the first season however. The point is really closer to the fact that taking a guy through the draft with a potentially higher ceiling will get the Chiefs into better position for a Championship for years to come (or worse if they bust, but the point is we don't know their potential, and we know Smith's).

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I don't know how old you are, but if you can get to 24/25 without getting arrested or killed, you've done well for yourself lol.

Just before the season started the question was asked if the Chiefs can have a SF-like season if they had a bus driver qb performance out of Cassel like Smith did for the Niners.

So it's entirely possible that they have a great season. I won't discount that at all. But to me, it's all about building a team that can compete for the SB for years to come. And to do that, you need a franchise qb. Or at least try to get one.

This is a patchwork solution to the problem. It may work for like 2 or 3 years but thats it. And at its peak it still won't accomplish the ultimate goal of winning a championship.

I agree. Every move you make as a franchise should be with one goal in mind: win the Super Bowl. The reason this move is so infuriating is because I don't see how this gets us to that goal. Alex Smith isn't leading this team to a championship.. he just isn't.

Just before the season started the question was asked if the Chiefs can have a SF-like season if they had a bus driver qb performance out of Cassel like Smith did for the Niners.

So it's entirely possible that they have a great season. I won't discount that at all. But to me, it's all about building a team that can compete for the SB for years to come. And to do that, you need a franchise qb. Or at least try to get one.

This is a patchwork solution to the problem. It may work for like 2 or 3 years but thats it. And at its peak it still won't accomplish the ultimate goal of winning a championship.

I don't think that is lost on any of the Chiefs fans on this forum. And sadly, it has been the story of the Chiefs for many years. Lamar Hunt was also more interested in selling tickets than winning championships (once he won one) and, despite what he says, it appears that Clark is following in his footsteps.

We got to the playoffs with Matt Cassel. If Alex Smith can win a playoff game for KC then maybe this won't be such a god awful ass raping trade of epic proportions, but I doubt it.

Stop confusing this trade with the Carson Palmer trade. They probably traded too much given that they were bidding against themselves, but it's hardly an awful ass raping. And if they make the playoffs this year, it's a success. You traded a couple of second rounders at most, not your entire future.

Stop confusing this trade with the Carson Palmer trade. They probably traded too much given that they were bidding against themselves, but it's hardly an awful ass raping. And if they make the playoffs this year, it's a success. You traded a couple of second rounders at most, not your entire future.

You are literally the only person who doesn't think this is a raping of a trade, and that is humorous to me.

A raping is multiple first round picks or a first and multiple seconds or something like that. It's the exact same trade that netted the Texans Matt Schaub, which nobody thinks was bad despite him only having 1 career playoff win.

He was 26. And regardless of whether or not he had perceived upside, he's not that different skill wise from Smith. There's no reason to believe Smith can't be just as capable as Schaub, so it would be a perfectly solid trade if Smith can approach those levels. Two second rounders isn't THAT much.

He was 26. And regardless of whether or not he had perceived upside, he's not that different skill wise from Smith. There's no reason to believe Smith can't be just as capable as Schaub, so it would be a perfectly solid trade if Smith can approach those levels. Two second rounders isn't THAT much.

Maybe to start the season he was 26. In that case, we can go ahead and call Alex Smith 29.

Maybe to start the season he was 26. In that case, we can go ahead and call Alex Smith 29.

I have never said otherwise about Smith's age. And again, they are acquiring him after his best stretch as a pro, where he was showing that he had progressed as a passer. Supporting cast or no, that's still a thing. The biggest problem in the trade isn't what they gave up, it's that they gave it up when they probably had more leverage. I don't think in the long run the second round picks will matter, and I fully believe Smith will be an above average QB for the Chiefs.