[Neil Patience]"I think neither are yet perfect but its a start and will develop and improve so collaborative tools are starting to appear."

There's definitely huge scope to shake up everything in the post world, again its hard to get people/engineers/bosses to buy into a new suite that needs a lot of caveats and plugins that dont have the "marketing" sparkle of red giant, magic bullet etc.

Also, if 7tox projects dont import perfectly ( all keyframes, speed ramps, titles ) then its kind-of worse than useless. The time it takes to rebuild is outweighs any FCPX advantage for me anyway.

[Neil Patience]"But he does not ever have to do anything that involves anyone else."

Exactly, that seems to be the largest divide here. Which makes me sad as FCP7 was such a flexible tool to unite everyone . Sigh