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Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

Originally Posted by lpast

It isnt the 300 per person cpwill its that every single cut in ryans plan was a middleclass or cut for the poor..and then HUGE tax cuts for the richest americans and corporations...thats why it failed...i went to a town hall meeting with my congressman when he was trying to "SELL" the ryan plan...he got brutalized..
by mere questions that he floundered trying to answer...he had one more town hall to sell it...got hammered again...and gave it up

Seniors need to pay more for Medicare.
They are statistically the most wealthiest, by age group.

It's a reverse progressive taxation scheme.

I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
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Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

Originally Posted by cpwill

that must be why Marco Rubio was so hesitant to mention it in his Senate race, eh?

old rules slowly apply alot less. sorry MediScarers.

My friend CPWILL you are wrong again When rubio was campaigning it was over a year ago...since the nov election the climate has changed and what changed it was Govs like Rick Scott and the other teaparty newly elected govs that raped the middleclass and either cut taxs for the rich and corporations or tried and failed...plus all the rhetoric from the teaparty take from the middle class and give to the rich...and Ryans failed plan....trust if rick scott ran today he would lose by a landslide and rubio may very well not be a senator although he would have a much better chance of being elected than scott..

Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

Originally Posted by Born Free

Got it, it's funded by the tax payer, which those benefits that are not funded by FICA is nothing more than Welfare. Those benefits funded by FICA is measured by the amount you put in. So if you draw SS funded by FICA you were in the working pool, if you receive benefits from the tax payer your on Welfare.

Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

Originally Posted by liblady

what should it do, make someone wealthy? we are talking about people who never paid anything in here.

I know quite a few people on SSI, it provides for a poverty (I mean broke) lifestyle and unless you cheat the system, you will forever be on tons of supplemental government assistance.
If you're born with a birth defect that prevents you from earning any type of income, SSI barely keeps your head above water.

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—Adam Shepard

Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

we pay into medicare our whole lives as well, as a % of our income, don't we?

Except that money does not go to an account, where it is saved for you.
It is spent, on your behalf by the government, now.

Meaning that, you reap some benefits of the taxes you pay, soon after you pay them.
It's essentially double dipping.

Otherwise, our government would be carrying a large (potentially trillion dollar) surplus.

I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
—Adam Shepard

Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

Originally Posted by liblady

everything is funded by the taxpayer. and?

No, you can fund FICA without paying taxes, depending on your income and deductions. So again if you draw SS funded by FICA you contributed to your own benefits, if your drawing benefits funded by someone else your on Welfare. Call it like it is.

Re: Florida GOP sweats over Social Security

Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla

I know quite a few people on SSI, it provides for a poverty (I mean broke) lifestyle and unless you cheat the system, you will forever be on tons of supplemental government assistance.
If you're born with a birth defect that prevents you from earning any type of income, SSI barely keeps your head above water.

Your absolutely right Harry..everything you said was fact....the average SS payment is a whopping 1100 a month...its not the SS recipients that worked and paid into SS thats breaking it....its all the freebies that have been added to it...

Spouses that never worked....children under 18 of a deceased parent....hes the one I love...If a man marries and remains married at one time it was just 9 months now I believe its two years..10 times...all 10 wives collect his social security...that is the kind of crap that has broken SS.