why is she wearing a high-bum bathing suit? those have never been hot.

voltanapricot

04-26-2006, 05:26 AM

Her "boobs" terrify me.

Rancid_Beasties

04-26-2006, 05:48 AM

There is quite a gap.

Tzar

04-26-2006, 06:11 AM

i'd hit it more than once (y)

Mcmac

04-26-2006, 06:19 AM

your all just jealous

voltanapricot

04-26-2006, 06:34 AM

I'm not jealous of her. She has a very bony chest and these mega-unnatural baps that just look don't compliment the twiggy figure. She gets away with it in tracky's pic, there's a little more fat.

TurdBerglar

04-26-2006, 09:54 AM

There's nothing wrong with being in shape, weirdos.

but she's not in shape...

she's unaturally skinny. biologically women are suppose to have more fat on them compared to men. a nice lawer of supple yet firm baby fat.

she does look better in tracky's pick though. i bet she has no ass

zorra_chiflada

04-26-2006, 09:58 AM

YOU DON'T THINK SHE'S HOT MAN? WHAT ARE YOU QUEER OR SOMETHING SHE'S LIKE THE HOTTEST CHICK EVER. QUEER

Echewta

04-26-2006, 10:05 AM

I find her pretty and would like to take her out to O'Charleys.

ericlee

04-26-2006, 10:15 AM

don't get me wrong. She's very cute but it's those boobs man.

Say perhaps you smear silicone all over the Mona Lisa. You have then depreciated that work of art.

mickill

04-26-2006, 10:17 AM

I love women in all different shapes, sizes and assortments.

ericlee

04-26-2006, 10:20 AM

I love women in all natural different shapes, sizes and assortmens.

alexandra

04-26-2006, 10:20 AM

fry some chicken, woman.

TurdBerglar

04-26-2006, 10:21 AM

I love women in all natural different shapes, sizes and assortmens.

yes

mickill

04-26-2006, 10:53 AM

Bottom line is, neither of you would ever reject her based on her ghastly appearance.

ericlee

04-26-2006, 11:02 AM

Turd wouldn't but I undoubtedly will turn her down. I've never been too partial for blondes and my wife is way hotter than her.

EDIT: I could never get it on with a Kentuckian either. Hyuck, hyuck.

mickill

04-26-2006, 11:33 AM

Based on her appearance. Not based on whether you're married or not.

Whatever though. You'd turn her down. I'm convinced.

Nuzzolese

04-26-2006, 11:40 AM

I think she's pretty. She looks healthy enough to me. Isn't the pageant a promotional gig anyway, for products who sponsor it? I mean the winner doesn't mean anything, I always thought it was a big commercial.

Lex Diamonds

04-26-2006, 11:51 AM

There's nothing wrong with being in shape, weirdos.
Exactly. Why do so many of you hate good looking people?

Nuzzolese

04-26-2006, 11:54 AM

Exactly. Why do so many of you hate good looking people?

It makes them uncomfortable when they're attracted to people who seem to be aware of having widely appreciated good looks?

They're bitter, and make assumptions based on appearances?

They're jealous and catty?

They know that even if they looked that good, they'd still be miserable and mean?

Planetary

04-26-2006, 11:57 AM

Hot on her heels, it's Mr and Mrs England 2006!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/ilove/years/1990/gallery/340/harry.jpg

lol, i love it when they win the lottery.

cj hood

04-26-2006, 12:09 PM

Ahhhhh, ummmm... yeeeaaa. I'd say she is a deserving winner. (y)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2696/missky8er.jpg..but you guys are totally NOT! gonna believe how old she is !!! :eek: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12426534/

very good......thats porn star beauty!

mickill

04-26-2006, 12:19 PM

It makes them uncomfortable when they're attracted to people who seem to be aware of having widely appreciated good looks?

They're bitter, and make assumptions based on appearances?

They're jealous and catty?

They know that even if they looked that good, they'd still be miserable and mean?
http://arania.kamiki.net/Fan%20Art%20and%20Commissions/Unicorn%20and%20Griffin%20commission%20colored%20c opy.jpg

Echewta

04-26-2006, 12:36 PM

For those who ONLY like natural and real. hahahahahaha i say.

ericlee

04-26-2006, 12:46 PM

as I've said, she's good looking but she's just a little too much for me. Also I've never had a liking for blondes or silicone.

This is my thoughts even if I weren't married.

I'm not going to lie, she is damn beautiful but just not my type.

mickill

04-26-2006, 12:49 PM

I have no further questions, Your Honor.

cosmo105

04-26-2006, 01:11 PM

she's just too much woman for me to handle, i guess. whew!

TimDoolan

04-26-2006, 01:37 PM

She looks an lot like Rachel McAdams in that first pic. Which is fine, by me.

In photos many men find her extremely attractive. But imagine what she must look like in person. Lip liner way outside her lip line. Black eye shadow up to her eyebrows which are penciled in. Massive tits stretched to the limit. I mean, I think she'd just look scary in person.

Like a drag queen.

I mean, if she weren't famous and you saw someone like that in person would you want to sleep with them if they rolled up on you?

I think I'd just think she was desperate.

Qdrop

04-26-2006, 02:11 PM

It makes them uncomfortable when they're attracted to people who seem to be aware of having widely appreciated good looks?

They're bitter, and make assumptions based on appearances?

They're jealous and catty?

yeah.

while i often agree with Cosmo and Zorra's pesimistic views on the current standard of beauty in the US....

this chick is pretty hot.
a tad on the skinny side for my personal taste....but no where near the anorexic standards i've seen on some magazine covers.

she has good curves, nice skin tone....she really has no flaws....
and cosmo's forced connection between "runway beauty" and drag queens is getting tiresome.

i think Zorra and Cosmo just seriously fuckin hate gorgeous women...as cliche as that is.
you can draw your own conclusions as to why that is....

but it's probably for the same reasons that most of us guys would fall over ourselves mocking any posted pics of male abercrombie models....

Nuzzolese

04-26-2006, 02:23 PM

See I don't know, I mean think of Pamela Anderson.

In photos many men find her extremely attractive. But imagine what she must look like in person. Lip liner way outside her lip line. Black eye shadow up to her eyebrows which are penciled in. Massive tits stretched to the limit. I mean, I think she'd just look scary in person.

Like a drag queen.

I mean, if she weren't famous and you saw someone like that in person would you want to sleep with them if they rolled up on you?

I think I'd just think she was desperate.

Pam Anderson is no Miss USA! You crazy, girl!! :rolleyes: :p

SobaViolence

04-26-2006, 02:33 PM

Pam Anderson is no Miss USA! You crazy, girl!! :rolleyes: :p

also, 'cause she's Canadian...

Nuzzolese

04-26-2006, 02:34 PM

And hey, enough with the skinny-hate, okay? Some people look like that and they like to be healthy and workout and avoid junk food. It doesn't mean they're starving themselves. A few steaks and donuts vs a couple of skipped meals; which is worse? I'd say the bad food is worse. Some guy saying a girl ought to do some situps - so she'd look the way he'd like her to look, is just as bad as saying she ought to gain weight. Cosmo's all health-crusader and then when a girl's on the skinny side she assumes she's unhealthy. She looks athletic, aside from the sweater pillows. And Zorra's always talking about feminism but she avoided the obvious discussion topic here of a beauty pageant and what that suggests, instead opting to cattily comment on the girl's body. I'm indignant! Or I would be if I still cared now that my rant is over.

Personally I wouldn't want to look like her, too typical, no personal style. But she DID win a crown. That's like, 2 years of free cosmetics and paid public appearances.

ampm

04-26-2006, 02:39 PM

i think Zorra and Cosmo just seriously fuckin hate gorgeous women...as cliche as that is.
you can draw your own conclusions as to why that is....

I bet Ms. Kentucky doesn't spend all day on the internet.

Qdrop

04-26-2006, 02:45 PM

And hey, enough with the skinny-hate, okay? Some people look like that and they like to be healthy and workout and avoid junk food. It doesn't mean they're starving themselves. A few steaks and donuts vs a couple of skipped meals; which is worse? I'd say the bad food is worse. Some guy saying a girl ought to do some situps - so she'd look the way he'd like her to look, is just as bad as saying she ought to gain weight. Cosmo's all health-crusader and then when a girl's on the skinny side she assumes she's unhealthy. She looks athletic, aside from the sweater pillows. And Zorra's always talking about feminism but she avoided the obvious discussion topic here of a beauty pageant and what that suggests, instead opting to cattily comment on the girl's body. I'm indignant! Or I would be if I still cared now that my rant is over.

and let's just talk about the elephant in the room.
none of the women mocking her will ever look like her.
and yes *gasp*, they wish they could.
there is nothing wrong with that. everyone would love to be super attractive...even if it could mean looking generic in some sense.

i'll never know what it feels like to be Johny depp or whoever People magazine voted the sexiest man alive. it would be great to get that kind of attention.
i've been in social settings where other guys or friends are getting all the play because they have more classical attractive features.
yeah it makes me jealous.
that's part of being human.

i'm not sure why people have to deny that and instead hide behind some trumped up, exagerated attack on people who just have good genes.
yeah, maybe we wouldn't want to present ourselves in such a "processed" look as many models....
but cosmo or zorra can't pretend they don't wish they had tits, thighs, and a stomach like hers...

and i can't pretend i don't wish i had bigger, more a muscular body frame than my current 155lb one.....

mickill

04-26-2006, 02:50 PM

That's not an elephant, Q. It's a unicorn. And a hawk.

you are such a flaming lesbian!
I do my best to free the eggs when I can.

Qdrop

04-26-2006, 03:01 PM

That's not an elephant, Q. It's a unicorn. And a hawk.
my bad.

and did you see the tits on that unicorn?!

i bet cosmo's jealous...
"they're filled with fairy water!"

mickill

04-26-2006, 03:04 PM

I'm pretty sure those are real.

But that horn has definitely been augmented.

g-mile7

04-26-2006, 03:06 PM

and let's just talk about the elephant in the room.
none of the women mocking her will ever look like her.
and yes *gasp*, they wish they could.
there is nothing wrong with that. everyone would love to be super attractive...even if it could mean looking generic in some sense.

i'll never know what it feels like to be Johny depp or whoever People magazine voted the sexiest man alive. it would be great to get that kind of attention.
i've been in social settings where other guys or friends are getting all the play because they have more classical attractive features.
yeah it makes me jealous.
that's part of being human.

i'm not sure why people have to deny that and instead hide behind some trumped up, exagerated attack on people who just have good genes.
yeah, maybe we wouldn't want to present ourselves in such a "processed" look as many models....
but cosmo or zorra can't pretend they don't wish they had tits, thighs, and a stomach like hers...

and i can't pretend i don't wish i had bigger, more a muscular body frame than my current 155lb one.....

Good break down. It's all about hating on people that you don't know. If people can't admit that this is such a wrong thing to do then we will never go anywhere in life. For all we know this girl could be not only smart but also very modest instead of she is a barbie doll with no brain. And she cute no doubt.

Auton

04-26-2006, 03:22 PM

yeah, I agree with Mike, Nuzz, Q, and Gmile completely. It's ridiculous... you post a picture of someone thin and you get ripped apart... you post a picture of someone who's slightly overweight and nobody says anything. it's bullshit. I remember posting a picture of myself with my siblings (I'm in the weight range I'm supposed to be, I work out, and I eat healthy) and somebody said "eat a hamburger." somebody also said i dressed like a herb but I won't hold that against them ;) . but yeah, people say stupid comments about skinny people on here all the time and it really kind of pisses me off.

Nuzzolese

04-26-2006, 03:26 PM

I do not agree with what Qdrop said. I just want to say, I'm not suggesting Zorra and Cosmo wish they looked like Miss Kentucky. I mean, I'd never win Miss USA and I don't wish I looked like that. I may wish I could do certain things other people can, but for the most part I like the way I look...or I've just accepted it and don't wish otherwise. In any case I wouldn't assume such jealousy on their parts. I think maybe it's a bitterness towards a society that doesn't applaud them as much as it applauds others. And they're just being silly and not thinking about what they're saying.

Auton

04-26-2006, 03:27 PM

ok, maybe not that part. but I'm butt hurt and I'm sad!

Echewta

04-26-2006, 03:30 PM

Nuzz, I bet you'd win Miss Jasper County.

g-mile7

04-26-2006, 03:32 PM

I do not agree with what Qdrop said. I just want to say, I'm not suggesting Zorra and Cosmo wish they looked like Miss Kentucky. I mean, I'd never win Miss USA and I don't wish I looked like that. I may wish I could do certain things other people can, but for the most part I like the way I look...or I've just accepted it and don't wish otherwise. In any case I wouldn't assume such jealousy on their parts. I think maybe it's a bitterness towards a society that doesn't applaud them as much as it applauds others. And they're just being silly and not thinking about what they're saying.

Depending on which part your in. Thick women are always in style down south and espcially with the majority of black males and hispanic, at least in my experince.

zorra_chiflada

04-26-2006, 03:44 PM

ok, i just gotta say, i think a lot of you are under the impression that i am an unreasonable crazy woman. jealous, bitter, hating on any skinny hot fake tit blonde.
i swear, cross my heart and hope to die, that i do not wish i looked like that. i'm serious. (i especially am not too fond of those tits) i do not hate the woman, and i don't believe in indicated anything of the sort in this thread. what she does with her time and body is her decision, and while i may not agree with it, i can't just say i hate her for doing it. but i do not want to look like that. in all honesty, i'd rather look like cosmo, because in my opinion she is hot as hell. :)
also, i'm not going to talk about the whole beauty pageant thing because it pisses everyone off and i don't want to hear it.

i also think that white guys are more attracted to that body type than black or hispanic guys.

zorra_chiflada

04-26-2006, 03:57 PM

oh, can i add another thing...
it seems that a lot of you think that jealousy is the only thing that motivates women. that's insulting.
does the fact that turd and ericlee don't find her attractive mean that they're jealous? do they wish they looked like that?
so like quit it with the YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS ZORRA COS SHE'S FUCKIN HOT AND YOUR UGLY AND YOU JUST WANNA LOOK LIKE HER. some of you ought to know better.

SobaViolence

04-26-2006, 04:15 PM

we all know how the conversations would go with miss usa...and that'd be nowhere.

(n)

g-mile7

04-26-2006, 04:28 PM

oh, can i add another thing...
it seems that a lot of you think that jealousy is the only thing that motivates women. that's insulting.
does the fact that turd and ericlee don't find her attractive mean that they're jealous? do they wish they looked like that?
so like quit it with the YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS ZORRA COS SHE'S FUCKIN HOT AND YOUR UGLY AND YOU JUST WANNA LOOK LIKE HER. some of you ought to know better.

Your not ugly though thats just it. I'm sure you hate more the objection of women then anything, maybe not so much she is skinny , but falling under the old stereotype (I make this assumption based on your post you come across as a very opinionated, strong minded woman)

Pres Zount

04-26-2006, 04:39 PM

For all we know this girl could be not only smart but also very modest instead of she is a barbie doll with no brain.

But she probably isn't. Because she is appearing in a competition in which she has to tramp around in a swimsuit. If she had some inteligence she'd be above that kind of thing.

mickill

04-26-2006, 04:41 PM

I didn't say anything about anyone being jealous. But I do agree with what Nuzz said about people being a little bitter about this being the chosen ideal for most of society.

And Turd and ericlee would both hump her leg in a heartbeat, given the opportunity, I'm sure.

we all know how the conversations would go with miss usa...and that'd be nowhere.

(n)
Yes, because they're all basically retarded. Naturally.

zorra_chiflada

04-26-2006, 04:42 PM

I didn't say anything about anyone being jealous. But I do agree with what Nuzz said about people being a little bitter about this being the chosen ideal for most of society.

the masses are asses.

g-mile7

04-26-2006, 04:44 PM

But she probably isn't. Because she is appearing in a competition in which she has to tramp around in a swimsuit. If she had some inteligence she'd be above that kind of thing.

thats your opinion. Besides before everyone got poltically correct and shit them things were seen as postives not negatives.

DapperDiverge

04-26-2006, 04:55 PM

what about a Mr. USA?? and not one of those body buildling competitions where these guys get so full of muscle they look like they're in pain... i'm talking the male equilvalent to Miss. USA!! Give something to the ladies and gay guys!! YEAH!! it's about time... then MR. USA and Miss. USA can be crowned and have a dance like at prom....awwwwwwwwww, how nice:rolleyes: barfs in my mouth

TurdBerglar

04-26-2006, 05:21 PM

It makes them uncomfortable when they're attracted to people who seem to be aware of having widely appreciated good looks?

They're bitter, and make assumptions based on appearances?

They're jealous and catty?

They know that even if they looked that good, they'd still be miserable and mean?

she's not sexually attractive. you can see her sternim. her tits look like they have been bolted on to her chest. her hip bones are pertruding too much along with her shoulders. she basically looks underfed = not attractive. and for someone that deformed to be rated number one is fuckn' gross.

g-mile7

04-26-2006, 06:11 PM

I wonder if she takes it up the ass? Oh my, did I just type that out loud?

come back with splinters since she got a broom stick for one :(

Auton

04-26-2006, 06:19 PM

But she probably isn't. Because she is appearing in a competition in which she has to tramp around in a swimsuit. If she had some inteligence she'd be above that kind of thing.

thanks for calling one of my best friends unintelligent (y)
You know because because being one of the best students in her class and getting scholarships shows she's a complete retard.

cosmo105

04-26-2006, 06:22 PM

tiresome? i've only said something about the drag queen aesthetic once. once again, drawing false generalizations from thin air...

i don't "hate gorgeous women." i don't think she's gorgeous. i think Salma Hayek is gorgeous. i like her.

TurdBerglar

04-26-2006, 06:24 PM

selma(y)

g-mile7

04-26-2006, 06:24 PM

tiresome? i've only said something about the drag queen aesthetic once. once again, drawing false generalizations from thin air...

i don't "hate gorgeous women." i don't think she's gorgeous. i think Salma Hayek is gorgeous. i like her.

She is nice and thick and latin......A's all round

g-mile7

04-26-2006, 06:26 PM

thanks for calling one of my best friends unintelligent (y)
You know because because being one of the best students in her class and getting scholarships shows she's a complete retard.

thus another stetrotype being used, not to mention alot of Ms. America or people in those types of pagents do ALOT of good in the community. In fact it's a requirement that you dedicate at least a year if I recall doing charitable work in order to fully justify the crown. It's not all looks and DAMNS! Or else any fine chick could win...

cosmo105

04-26-2006, 06:26 PM

Cosmo's all health-crusader and then when a girl's on the skinny side she assumes she's unhealthy.
okay, where the fuck did i say this? why are all of you turning it into personal judgements of me? for christ's sake, i just said i think she's scary-looking. and no, i'm not jealous of that. jesus. i don't want to look like that. you guys are all so damned anal. wash your hands.

cosmo105

04-26-2006, 06:30 PM

but cosmo or zorra can't pretend they don't wish they had tits, thighs, and a stomach like hers...
you always get way too personal. let's stop talking about my body now, yes? and no, i don't wish i had a body like hers. i'm fine with my body. it's what i have. imagine that :eek:

g-mile7

04-26-2006, 06:34 PM

you always get way too personal. let's stop talking about my body now, yes? and no, i don't wish i had a body like hers. i'm fine with my body. it's what i have. imagine that :eek:

believe it or not you are not bad lookin both body and face. I don't know where the accuasations ar coming from. Take this as a complimant, nothing more.

DandyFop

04-26-2006, 06:38 PM

thanks for calling one of my best friends unintelligent (y)
You know because because being one of the best students in her class and getting scholarships shows she's a complete retard.

Yes, but don't you see, that's the exact problem. These can be legitimate, intelligent, awesome people, and for some reason or another, a part of the competition is dressing up in a SWIM SUIT. This has absolutely NO bearing on anything, besides tan lines, breasts, thighs, etc. etc. If they are trying to see if she has "grace" or "poise", they usually already have another category-based-on-looks which is the evening gown area. So yes, in general, it is demeaning and pointless for an intelligent woman to have to bring herself down to this level, because nobody will tune into the fucking show if she doesn't.

cosmo105

04-26-2006, 06:38 PM

believe it or not you are not bad lookin both body and face. I don't know where the accuasations ar coming from. Take this as a complimant, nothing more.

Yes, but don't you see, that's the exact problem. These can be legitimate, intelligent, awesome people, and for some reason or another, a part of the competition is dressing up in a SWIM SUIT. This has absolutely NO bearing on anything, besides tan lines, breasts, thighs, etc. etc. If they are trying to see if she has "grace" or "poise", they usually already have another category-based-on-looks which is the evening gown area. So yes, in general, it is demeaning and pointless for an intelligent woman to have to bring herself down to this level, because nobody will tune into the fucking show if she doesn't.

People shouldn't be judging a person based on looks to begin with. But it's all bout a spring board. They can take that padgent and run with it. It's not illegal and the wise tune in to see what they say. My mom's watches it and I know she doesnt tune in just to fanatize bout how she could be like them (she loves the fashions, talent part and q&a not t&a necessarly)

wow funny how Crank thread turned into a social breakdown of the "barbie doll" syndrome.

I really don't see why you have to assume that I would jump on her. So I guess you think I'm a very desperate man with no morals or standards I take it.

I don't even see where you get off on calling me a retard just because I have different opinions on beauty.

I guess there's something wrong with the fact that I want nothing more than a woman to be herself to impress me.

You go ahead and call me retard somemore there tough guy, I need some good laughs every now and then.

EDIT: *wipes drool from chin*

:) get him son get him haha

jackrock

04-26-2006, 08:11 PM

Calling someone a retard in the first place is plain wrong.

iceygirl

04-26-2006, 08:28 PM

i just have to say that i saw this person on one of the morning shows a couple days ago and shes super cute, pretty and good sense of humor. she also didn't seem awfully dense.

people who rant about women degrading themselves by entering these contests probably shouldnt be throwing stones. golden rule people. different strokes, etc.

i also want to note that i am sure that even the skinniest person walking in public in a bikini would be walking and holding their posture in a way that even a thicker persons bones would protrude. try it ladies. get naked and pretend you are walking down a runway in front of zillions of people. i bet no matter how much more body fat you have than her that your ribs, pelvis, etc. will be sticking out soley due to the way that you hold yourself. its called posture, give it a try.

g-mile7

04-26-2006, 08:30 PM

at the end of the day that lady is about 50,000 dollars ( a terrible estimate but oh well) riched then all of us and could give less then two scoops of shit bout what is said bout her. But thats never stopped the judgemental b4.

zorra_chiflada

04-26-2006, 09:45 PM

book intelligence and general intelligence are two different things.
the point of being in a beauty contest is to show off your physical assets, not to do good shit for the community or to be "really smart" or whatever. that's like the old "reading playboy for the articles" cliche. christ.

Yeti

04-26-2006, 09:53 PM

I watched that pageant and I thought Miss Georgia had it in the bag. Someone post a pic of her in a swimsuit and then we can discuss this highway robbery.

book intelligence and general intelligence are two different things.
the point of being in a beauty contest is to show off your physical assets, not to do good shit for the community or to be "really smart" or whatever. that's like the old "reading playboy for the articles" cliche. christ.

You can not say that without knowing each and every one of those girls thoughts and even then you wouldn't know for sure.

g-mile7

04-26-2006, 10:24 PM

I watched that pageant and I thought Miss Georgia had it in the bag. Someone post a pic of her in a swimsuit and then we can discuss this highway robbery.

Found a link--

http://www.missusa.com/delegates/2006/files/GA-photo-swim.html

damn shame :(

Echewta

04-26-2006, 10:25 PM

http://www.medievaltimes.com/2006/images/IMG_0132.jpg

Echewta

04-26-2006, 10:25 PM

http://www.yenra.com/miss-usa/miss-usa.jpg

ericlee

04-26-2006, 10:31 PM

Nice rant.

Maybe you'd like to read that post again, though. I never called anyone here a retard.

ok, seriously, I'll be a big guy and step and offer my apologies. I truly did read it wrong.

I always did respect you and know you like to mess with people a little so I thought maybe you were implying that I was mentaly challanged, ree hee.

Seriously though, she is beautiful and I really don't know much about her. I was just fooling around when I said the down to earth comment above but it's the first thing that comes to mind, without knowing anybody, with fake boobies and dyed blonde hair intensified with cosmetics.

Reading what Iceygirl said during the interview she watched, she does actually seem like a good person inside and hopefully she'll make Americans proud to have her as Miss America.

The upsetting thing to me though since she is Miss America is that she has the Pam Anderson image or Britney Spears look and this is the implication that people get from us.

People from other countries get the image of us being fat hamburger eating slobs and now they think we like us some fake dyed hair baloon tittied ladies since she represents us.

I've always been turned off by women of that type simply because they will go to the extreme in spending much $$ for the exterior which is nothing more than an expensive enhancement of sex appeal. Being that the enhancement is targeted towards the exteroir in that manner, of course people are gonna be like the wolf of Looney Tunes with buldging eyes and tongue hanging out.

It's just too easy when someone sees a lady like this and just like any other man that sees her, the first impression that comes to mind is "I'd fuck the dogshit outta her" rather than "I bet she's a great minded lady and I wouldn't mind waking every morning with her and for her to bear my children" and yada yada.

Hopefully you get where I'm coming from.(y)

g-mile7

04-26-2006, 10:42 PM

http://www.yenra.com/miss-usa/miss-usa.jpg

now thats not fair :(

Auton

04-26-2006, 11:13 PM

book intelligence and general intelligence are two different things.
the point of being in a beauty contest is to show off your physical assets, not to do good shit for the community or to be "really smart" or whatever. that's like the old "reading playboy for the articles" cliche. christ.

*ahem*

fuck you

zorra_chiflada

04-26-2006, 11:24 PM

what? you think i'm wrong?

DandyFop

04-26-2006, 11:31 PM

People shouldn't be judging a person based on looks to begin with. But it's all bout a spring board. They can take that padgent and run with it. It's not illegal and the wise tune in to see what they say.

It's not illegal so it's okay? Yeah people shouldn't be judging people based on looks - which is why the bathing suit thing is fucking ridiculous. But why change standards now? The point is that there's NO POINT of having the swimsuit competition besides getting ratings. It has nothing to do with why the women deserve the title.

Justin

04-26-2006, 11:34 PM

I don't believe this chick is from Kentucky...couldnt be...no way...not a chance in hell...

cosmo105

04-26-2006, 11:36 PM

what? you think i'm wrong?
he has a friend that does beauty pageants that's a smart cookie so he's butthurt

ericlee

04-26-2006, 11:58 PM

I don't believe this chick is from Kentucky...couldnt be...no way...not a chance in hell...

so I guess you haven't heard the phrase, "the further down south, the better the women?"

Justin

04-27-2006, 12:01 AM

so I guess you haven't heard the phrase, "the further down south, the better the women?"

I was being sarcastic. Ashlee Judd is from kentucky and i think she's hot.

You dont want to go to far south or you'll be asking for pop instead of soda.

ericlee

04-27-2006, 12:11 AM

I was being sarcastic. Ashlee Judd is from kentucky and i think she's hot.

You dont want to go too? far south or you'll be asking for pop instead of soda.

believe me, I've spent my last 3 years of the army in Louisiana and they call everything "Coke" whether it be a Dr. Pepper or Mountain Dew:D

Now I'm looking at the runners up and dammit, miss Ohio, my homestate is all decked out with the whole fakeness. Grrr.

Look at Miss Arizona, pure fineness, no fake tittahs. Or even Miss California!! she's fine and then Miss District of Columbia...

I'm only seeing them from a non enhanced view as posted from the photos of the original site but they seem to be all frills, no attacments, beautiful women.

Auton

04-27-2006, 12:23 AM

he has a friend that does beauty pageants that's a smart cookie so he's butthurt

not necessarily, she just cant accept that her points are invalid because she's trying to stereotype everybody

what? you think i'm wrong?

yes, i think at least half the people in this thread have shown you that you are in fact wrong. it's just super annoying that you don't seem to accept that people can in fact be intelligent, and have dignity, and participate in pageants at the same time.

book intelligence and general intelligence are two different things.
the point of being in a beauty contest is to show off your physical assets, not to do good shit for the community or to be "really smart" or whatever. that's like the old "reading playboy for the articles" cliche. christ.

ok, so are you trying to prove to me that my friend isn't REALLY smart just because she's book smart? what the fuck were you trying to prove by saying that? second, all pageants are not "beauty contests," you using that term shows old fashioned 1950's ingorance, and you're essentially saying that girls only go on there to show off their bodies, which is bullshit. "neh neh neh that's like old reading playboy for the articles cliche blah" fuck you, you obviously have never been to a pageant before, 90% of the audience are family matters you dont have people sitting there jacking off. most girls (i'm not saying all, im sure there's plenty of bimbos in there too) don't even really care about the swimsuit part, I know it's my friends least favorite part of it and she refuses to wear a two piece. still's just so fucking IRRITATING how someone like you who is obviously very intelligent can make such blind, spiteful comments about people you don't know about. of course, me saying these things wont matter to you, because you're still going to spout ignorant-ass shit whenever a topic like this pops up, and you're always going to harbor ill will towards these girls. but whatever.

and fuck you for your snide comment jess. you're a real pal.

zorra_chiflada

04-27-2006, 12:27 AM

no. just no. don't even bother.
oh yeah, and stop being so offended. jeez.

Auton

04-27-2006, 12:29 AM

stop being ignorant. jeez.

zorra_chiflada

04-27-2006, 12:32 AM

no but seriously, you're getting offended on behalf of a friend. don't be. i've had far worse things said to me on here, as have other people.

Auton

04-27-2006, 12:34 AM

i know i am, but might have been to if it were one of your best friends. internet, i know.

Maisailana

04-27-2006, 12:44 AM

not necessarily, she just cant accept that her points are invalid because she's trying to stereotype everybody

yes, i think at least half the people in this thread have shown you that you are in fact wrong. it's just super annoying that you don't seem to accept that people can in fact be intelligent, and have dignity, and participate in pageants at the same time.

ok, so are you trying to prove to me that my friend isn't REALLY smart just because she's book smart? what the fuck were you trying to prove by saying that? second, all pageants are not "beauty contests," you using that term shows old fashioned 1950's ingorance, and you're essentially saying that girls only go on there to show off their bodies, which is bullshit. "neh neh neh that's like old reading playboy for the articles cliche blah" fuck you, you obviously have never been to a pageant before, 90% of the audience are family matters you dont have people sitting there jacking off. most girls (i'm not saying all, im sure there's plenty of bimbos in there too) don't even really care about the swimsuit part, I know it's my friends least favorite part of it and she refuses to wear a two piece. still's just so fucking IRRITATING how someone like you who is obviously very intelligent can make such blind, spiteful comments about people you don't know about. of course, me saying these things wont matter to you, because you're still going to spout ignorant-ass shit whenever a topic like this pops up, and you're always going to harbor ill will towards these girls. but whatever.

Hey Auton, you know that you're cool with me. Don't let some dipshit come here that's had an account since 04 but only comes here to justify their lack of self opinon by random attacks like this.

Let me speak their language... Hahahehehohoh? Fuck you.

Ok Auton, carry on.

Maisailana

04-27-2006, 12:54 AM

yes, i suck because i spend a fraction of the time that you two do on this board. good point. sorry for offending your husband.

bye!

haha

ericlee

04-27-2006, 01:07 AM

Ok Auton, it's time to reveal our ultra gay marriage and show the world that we've learned to accept the fact that intcoital communications can vary with words such as "hey man, I'm not a fag"

Which, during the drastic results of such a down to earth comment. Auton has found a very beautiful young lady and so has ericlee.

Except for ericlee's plane ticket to China was more expensive..

fin.

Edit: Don't ask me what intcoital means. I just figured you had busted up plumbing and I had the wrench?

Knuckles

04-27-2006, 01:40 AM

I have no idea why anyone is fighting in this thread. If you saw the show you would have known she won because of the talent portion of the contest.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/chickencow/talent.gif

jabumbo

04-27-2006, 01:47 AM

i like her

http://www.bellezavenezolana.net/MU/52/USA1952a.jpg

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 07:06 AM

you always get way too personal. let's stop talking about my body now, yes? and no, i don't wish i had a body like hers. i'm fine with my body. it's what i have. imagine that :eek:

you know...it IS possible to wish you had a more culturally appealing body....but still be happy/comfortable with the one you got.

shocking, i know....

no offense, cosmo....
but you're not "one of the special ones". you aren't "above" wishing you looked more culturally appealing. you're not a fuckin robot. you're a human being in a social world with the same biology as the rest of us.
you would LOVE to be as attractive as the culturally/biologically-crowned standards.
and there is nothing wrong with that.
that doesn't mean that you necessarily hate your body or aren't happy with what you got.

i'd love to have a huge mansion with lots of land and water fountains and lakes....but that doesn't mean that i hate the house i own now.

b i o n i c

04-27-2006, 07:28 AM

i seriously cant a thread about a beauty pageant has gone on this long

Nuzzolese

04-27-2006, 07:30 AM

okay, where the fuck did i say this? why are all of you turning it into personal judgements of me? for christ's sake, i just said i think she's scary-looking. and no, i'm not jealous of that. jesus. i don't want to look like that. you guys are all so damned anal. wash your hands.

You're always saying a girl needs a ham sandwich or something. I don't know, maybe you're kidding. You've said it before and I anticipated you saying something like that in this thread, I made assumptions, I'm sorry. Please don't include me with the others, I didn't know all of this was going to come out. I stick by what I said and I don't stick by anyone else's posts.

Nuzzolese

04-27-2006, 07:31 AM

i seriously cant a thread about a beauty pageant has gone on this long

Why not? Pageants are a strange thing to be going so strong in our culture now. They seem outdated. And what about those child beauty pageants where the 10 year olds wear makeup and fake tanner and wink at the judges? It's a relevant thing to talk about.

DandyFop

04-27-2006, 07:37 AM

you know...it IS possible to wish you had a more culturally appealing body....but still be happy/comfortable with the one you got.

shocking, i know....

no offense, cosmo....
but you're not "one of the special ones". you aren't "above" wishing you looked more culturally appealing. you're not a fuckin robot. you're a human being in a social world with the same biology as the rest of us.
you would LOVE to be as attractive as the culturally/biologically-crowned standards.
and there is nothing wrong with that.
that doesn't mean that you necessarily hate your body or aren't happy with what you got.

i'd love to have a huge mansion with lots of land and water fountains and lakes....but that doesn't mean that i hate the house i own now.

Q, you're taking it too far. You have absolutely no right to assume this about anyone. Cosmo and I have talked a lot, and I feel that we are on the same wavelength - yes, we both get "ah geez I'm fat", sometimes, but if it came right down to it I would honestly rather be what i am NOW than look like that woman. Because I have no interest in my attractiveness coming from a tanning bed, or some bleach in my hair.

Now it doesn't matter because you are probably just saying this to start shit, because though at one point on this board you used to make valid criticisms and posts, apparently you've given that all up just so you can stroke your superiority shaft.

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 07:50 AM

well maybe we should open this discussion up to pageants in general....

why are they held? what role do they fill? are they harmful to society?

i guess i am kinda torn on beauty pageantry and our species obsession with "beauty"....and the higher calling of "intellect".

it's basically a "nature vs. intellect" agrument.
and the 2 are exclusive from each other....as humans are the only self-aware, intellectual animal on the planet.

on the nature side....we ARE animals. sex and procreation is everything. that is the reason we are here as a species (up to this point), and our entire biology has evolved and sexually adapted to continue that. sexual selection was a monumental element in our evolution.
there are reasons we love symetrical bodies.
guys love proportional curves (right down down to a mathatical ratio-regardless of size), big tits, round asses, symetrical features...
women like tall, symetrical, "fit" figures in men....the preferance in boyish vs. masculine features LITERALLY seems to revolve around thier ovulation (bizarre, i know...but true, and has evolutionary reasons).

^that is just who were are. none of that is "wrong". certainly not in natural law setting.

the debate begins when we bring in the other side of the story: intellect.
with our human conscience and self-awareness came our ability to reflect and invent social constructs that may not exist in nature.
while we have animal instincts from our evolutionary past...we are NOT slaves to them. with our intellect, we have the ability to CHOOSE. we can create metaphysical ideals and run our society accordingly.

tigers don't call other tigers "sluts".
but we can.

we, as humans, have used our intellect to create ideals like equality, value of mind over body, sexual constraint, etc.

we LOVE to watch scantily-clad, biologically beautiful people parade around in front of us. it's natural. it's compulsory.
we also have created social constructs that demonize such behavior, and those that enjoy it.

who's right? is there a "right?"

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 07:52 AM

Q, you're taking it too far. You have absolutely no right to assume this about anyone. Cosmo and I have talked a lot, and I feel that we are on the same wavelength - yes, we both get "ah geez I'm fat", sometimes, but if it came right down to it I would honestly rather be what i am NOW than look like that woman. Because I have no interest in my attractiveness coming from a tanning bed, or some bleach in my hair.

Now it doesn't matter because you are probably just saying this to start shit, because though at one point on this board you used to make valid criticisms and posts, apparently you've given that all up just so you can stroke your superiority shaft.

struck a nerve, did i?

me thinks you doth protest too much.

tell me Dandy...why do you sometimes "think you're fat"?
what do you base that on?

zorra_chiflada

04-27-2006, 07:52 AM

no

Kid Presentable

04-27-2006, 08:02 AM

I wonder if she takes it up the ass? Oh my, did I just type that out loud?
haha

DandyFop

04-27-2006, 08:02 AM

struck a nerve, did i?

me thinks you doth protest too much.

tell me Dandy...why do you sometimes "think you're fat"?
what do you base that on?

Yes, you struck a nerve, by deciding that YOU know who one of my friends is better than I or she does. Because I'm trying to defend her, I protest too much?

I sometimes think I'm fat because I am overweight and unhealthy, as diagnosed by my doctor who told me I should probably try to lose around 25 pounds to be at a healthy weight.

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 08:08 AM

I sometimes think I'm fat because I am overweight and unhealthy, as diagnosed by my doctor who told me I should probably try to lose around 25 pounds to be at a healthy weight.

ohh..nice defense. it's because of "health and what your doctor said".
it has NOTHING to do with your appearance or how other girls look huh?

okay, if you say so.
i guess you're just super enlightened. it's as if society's beauty standards have NO effect on you. they can't get past your "self love" armor, huh?

yay dandy.

and NO, i am not saying you are fat or unattractive. so don't go there.

DandyFop

04-27-2006, 08:13 AM

ohh..nice defense. it's because of "health and what your doctor said".
it has NOTHING to do with your appearance or how other girls look huh?

okay, if you say so.
i guess you're just super enlightened. it's as if society's beauty standards have NO effect on you. they can't get past your "self love" armor, huh?

yay dandy.

and NO, i am not saying you are fat or unattractive. so don't go there.

I've obviously talked about how I "feel fat", etc., when seeing other girls, but my point is that I'm not just basing it entirely on society and seeing skinny girls on TV, I actually AM overweight. But even then, generally I feel fine with myself, besides going through bouts of feeling icky once in a while.

I don't know why I should have to defend myself for feeling fine about the way I look :confused:

Rancid_Beasties

04-27-2006, 08:13 AM

on the nature side....we ARE animals. sex and procreation is everything. that is the reason we are here as a species (up to this point), and our entire biology has evolved and sexually adapted to continue that. sexual selection was a monumental element in our evolution.
there are reasons we love symetrical bodies.
guys love proportional curves (right down down to a mathatical ratio-regardless of size), big tits, round asses, symetrical features...
women like tall, symetrical, "fit" figures in men....the preferance in boyish vs. masculine features LITERALLY seems to revolve around thier ovulation (bizarre, i know...but true, and has evolutionary reasons).
You would think that this would mean women with childbearing hips would be preferable over women who look like they could barely squeeze a jellybean out.

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 08:25 AM

You would think that this would mean women with childbearing hips would be preferable over women who look like they could barely squeeze a jellybean out.

oh it does....but there is a balance between fuller curvy hips and unhealthy obecity, etc.

it's all about that seemingly magic ratio that men look for in women...
i believe it's .7

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f01/web1/ekanayake.html

it's that ratio that seems to drive men nuts....anwhere from skinny models to marylin monroe....from size 1 to size 16, they all seem to have about the same ratio.

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 08:27 AM

I've obviously talked about how I "feel fat", etc., when seeing other girls, but my point is that I'm not just basing it entirely on society and seeing skinny girls on TV, I actually AM overweight. But even then, generally I feel fine with myself, besides going through bouts of feeling icky once in a while.

I don't know why I should have to defend myself for feeling fine about the way I look :confused:

you don't.
the point i'm obviously alluding to is that if you have ever compared your physical traits to another "popularly attractive" woman and found yourself wanting or feeling fat...
then by default, you are wishing you looked like that.

that's all.
that doesn't make you weak, or ugly...or anything other than normal.
it's what we ALL do.

Nuzzolese

04-27-2006, 08:50 AM

I'm kind of surprised that guys in this thread would make a big deal out of her for her looks alone. She's nothing special. She looks like a million other women, like any model in any ad.

Not that she looks bad, it's just that beautiful women heavily made up and put on display are so prevalent and common everywhere, that I'm surprised more men haven't become jaded to their sex appeal. You see women looking just like that selling everthing from sunglasses to cars to beer to hamburgers to ....everything. And Miss USA is just selling the USA brand...and its sponsors and those companies who bought airtime during the pageant.

It's superfluous to comment on her beauty just as it comes off as pointlessly contrary to say she looks scary or something. It's like, her looks are not up for argument. Whether she sells sex to you, that's your choice, but she is "hot" that's a fact. Sex appeal isn't even a personal choice anymore, as soon as I see a woman like that - before I even ask myself if I personally think she's attractive - I instantly recognize her looks as "hot chick." And I feel nothing. I'm numb to hot chicks like that and I kindasorta thought most guys would be too.

I'd expect a disinterested "yeah she's hot" from most people. So someone making a big deal about a woman who looks like her - whether they're drooling or ripping on her - it seems false or odd to me.

(addition) If she were in person in front of me in a normal everyday setting then I could see how she'd be stunning to people in the room - because she looks so glammed up and fit and polished. But that's different because she'd be within reach for people and would be a normal person. But still I think I'd just see her as a hot chick and it wouldn't affect me. I'd accept it and how people reacted to her.

But on display, from a distance like this....she's not even human. She's like...I don't know what she's like. An ad, something impersonal. I can see how she wouldn't have an affect on guys. But I would be surprised at people insisting that she is not "hot" because it sounds like they're just trying to prove a point that...

... the times they are achanging for sex appeal, and people are wanting a new image because hers has grown stale and ineffective through overuse. We're satiated with women who look like her.

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 09:01 AM

I'm kind of surprised that guys in this thread would make a big deal out of her for her looks alone. She's nothing special. She looks like a million other women, like any model in any ad.

Not that she looks bad, it's just that beautiful women heavily made up and put on display are so prevalent and common everywhere, that I'm surprised more men haven't become jaded to their sex appeal. You see women looking just like that selling everthing from sunglasses to cars to beer to hamburgers to ....everything. And Miss USA is just selling the USA brand...and its sponsors and those companies who bought airtime during the pageant.

It's superfluous to comment on her beauty just as it comes off as pointlessly contrary to say she looks scary or something. It's like, her looks are not up for argument. Whether she sells sex to you, that's your choice, but she is "hot" that's a fact. Sex appeal isn't even a personal choice anymore, as soon as I see a woman like that - before I even ask myself if I personally think she's attractive - I instantly recognize her looks as "hot chick." And I feel nothing. I'm numb to hot chicks like that and I kindasorta thought most guys would be too.
evolution trumps over-exposure everytime.

we don't get tired of breathing either.
or eating.

... the times they are achanging for sex appeal, and people are wanting a new image because hers has grown stale and ineffective through overuse. We're satiated with women who look like her.
you certainly are going out on a limb there.
but i'm afraid the sky isn't falling....

Nuzzolese

04-27-2006, 09:09 AM

But we do get tired of eating the same thing.

b i o n i c

04-27-2006, 09:13 AM

But we do get tired of eating the same thing.

these pageant girls are some of the dumbest, most self centered, unnappreciative bitches ever. and they laugh at their fans. (n)

mickill

04-27-2006, 09:21 AM

And here we go again.

Nuzzolese

04-27-2006, 09:24 AM

these pageant girls are some of the dumbest, most self centered, unnappreciative bitches ever. and they laugh at their fans. (n)

You're familiar with them?

I went to school with this girl for seven years. She won the Miss Teen USA for the state, and then she won the state pageant that took her to the Miss USA pageant. I was friends with her in Middle School then not so much. She was not one of the "popular" girls at all. She had about two friends, a gay guy and his sister. All she did was school work and pageant stuff. She was nice but, well, nothing special. And no one in my school ever made a big deal out of her looks...probably because she wasn't slutty. I think this picture says it all.
http://www.pageant.com/missusa99/images/wva2.jpg
sheeeesh

Documad

04-27-2006, 09:30 AM

Has anyone pointed out that Miss USA is a crock of shit invented to compete with the superior Miss America, or that Miss USA is now owned by Trump? The Miss America system used to be one of the few scholarship vehicles for college-hopeful women, and wasn't that just the saddest thing? They tended to be smart girls who did well in school, and they happened to look beautiful.

I have no problem with attractive high school girls competing to be miss butter or canoe queen or whatever in local pageants, and the movie about drag queen pageants in the late 80s-early 90s is a favorite, but the more recent focus on younger kids and the whole industry that's been built up to support pageant hopefuls taints the whole thing for me.

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 09:33 AM

But we do get tired of eating the same thing.

jesus, let's discect this into oblivion and with endless nit-picking of use of analogy...

fine, forget the "eating" comment.

i'll stick with the "breathing".

the fact of the matter is that history is pretty much on my side.
while styles have changed....our physical obsessions haven't really.
some THINK they have "look at Betty Page and the 50's pin up girls vs. the twigs we worship today!"
but the .7 ratio and obsession with symetry and round, girlish features never has.

the "processed look" will always be popular....only the style will change.
the "processed look" is basically an accentuation of all that humans find sexually attractive (which really never changes)...so how could that every go out of vogue?

the "processed look" will always be popular....only the style will change.
the "processed look" is basically an accentuation of all that humans find sexually attractive (which really never changes)...so how could that every go out of vogue?

Right, and I'm "saying" she is "processed" in a "style" that might "be" going out of "fashion".

it's one thing to have baby pageants were you parade babies and toddlers around to see who's the cutest...

and we will always like to watch and rate mature women walking around half-naked looking sexy.

but to combine the 2 and have little girls trying to accentuate they're non-existant sexual traits to look more "attractive"...and people judge them on it....
holy fuck.

what good can come from a competition where the ideal judges are pedophiles?

Nuzzolese

04-27-2006, 09:38 AM

EDIT: DELETION OF QUOTE OF QDROP'S POST

I don't think they get scholarships anymore, I think they get acting auditions or something.
This year's winner was studying business at a community college. Real impressive.
And I read that they only compete in 3 categories - swimsuit, evening gown, and interview. Where's the talent competition?

EDIT: They do get a scholarship, to a film/TV school.

The MISS USAŽ 2006 prize package includes: Official Miss USA Mikimoto pearl tiara; A Year supply of CoverGirl Cosmetics; 2 Year Scholarship from The School for Film and Television in NYC; custom designed wardrobe by Tadashi; A four day 3 night "all - inclusive" vacation from American Airlines; Show wardrobe and cash prize from Steve Madden; a year supply of haircare by Farouk Systems; a swimsuit wardrobe from BSC Swimwear Thailand; New York City apartment for the year of her reign including living expenses; and a personal appearance wardrobe.

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 09:41 AM

Right, and I'm "saying" she is "processed" in a "style" that might "be" going out of "fashion".

then by "style" you must be talking about hair color, fabric styles, skin tone, shoe styles, jewlery...those kind of things.

if you are talking about accentuating sexual traits and physical attributes (make-up on face, showing off tits, legs, and ass)......that will never go out of style.

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 09:44 AM

I don't think they get scholarships anymore, I think they get acting auditions or something.
This year's winner was studying business at a community college. Real impressive.
And I read that they only compete in 3 categories - swimsuit, evening gown, and interview. Where's the talent competition?

EDIT: They do get a scholarship, to a film/TV school.

The MISS USAŽ 2006 prize package includes: Official Miss USA Mikimoto pearl tiara; A Year supply of CoverGirl Cosmetics; 2 Year Scholarship from The School for Film and Television in NYC; custom designed wardrobe by Tadashi; A four day 3 night "all - inclusive" vacation from American Airlines; Show wardrobe and cash prize from Steve Madden; a year supply of haircare by Farouk Systems; a swimsuit wardrobe from BSC Swimwear Thailand; New York City apartment for the year of her reign including living expenses; and a personal appearance wardrobe.

i'm assuming you meant to direct this reply to Documad's post. not mine.

Nuzzolese

04-27-2006, 09:45 AM

then by "style" you must be talking about hair color, fabric styles, skin tone, shoe styles, jewlery...those kind of things.

if you are talking about accentuating sexual traits and physical attributes (make-up on face, showing off tits, legs, and ass)......that will never go out of style.

Well yeah, that's what I am talking about, her look; the blonde tan heavy eye makeup look. Sorry I wasn't more specific. And also, maybe the way she is displayed in a bikini with heels and makeup, with fake boobs. People still think it's sexy but it's like that sexiness is everywhere, all the time. Don't you think our culture is more saturated with that style of sexiness than it used to be?

Nuzzolese

04-27-2006, 09:48 AM

i'm assuming you meant to direct this reply to Documad's post. not mine.

whoops, sorry for quoting you there. I don't know what I was thinking, it's just a reflex I guess.

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 09:56 AM

And also, maybe the way she is displayed in a bikini with heels and makeup, with fake boobs. People still think it's sexy but it's like that sexiness is everywhere, all the time. Don't you think our culture is more saturated with that style of sexiness than it used to be?
but i have to flip the question back at you...
WHY do you think that "style" is sexy? WHY is it so pervasive in our culture (and most of the world's)?
the answer to that will give you the answer to "do think people will get sick of it".

this all goes back to my "people don't get tired of breathing" comment.

Echewta

04-27-2006, 10:00 AM

http://www.gruts.com/archive/2005/images/miss-universe.jpg

Canada!

Echewta

04-27-2006, 10:01 AM

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/05/31/universe3_gallery__387x550.jpg
Out of her cocoon to trasform into...!

but i have to flip the question back at you...
WHY do you think that "style" is sexy? WHY is it so pervasive in our culture (and most of the world's)?
the answer to that will give you the answer to "do think people will get sick of it".

this all goes back to my "people don't get tired of breathing" comment.

I understand that, but do you get what I'm saying about how that sex appeal is so standard and common that it seems strange for guys to flip out over it? It seems superfluous to comment on it at all? It's like, a guy would have to be really sheltered to get excited over pictures of her. Her in person, that's another matter, but another picture of a hot blonde bikini clad model...whoopdee doo. I don't think people are off-put by it, as I said that sounds as odd as someone going nuts over it. I just think it is becoming less effective. I see that it still works, I guess I'm just not a dude.

Oh hey, on a similar note as the WHR thing, I also read that higher contrast in features is biologically attractive too, so dark eyes, red lips, fair skin and black hair are more attractive than a woman with all features and makeup relatively in a close-range palatte.

enree erzweglle

04-27-2006, 10:07 AM

There's a sort of hostility, a quickness to judge with people who are jealous. They take sniping little jabs at people, they're often indirect in their communications, they often taunt people for their hard work and celebrate their failures.

They look at, say, a woman who--underneath it all--they envy and they assume, because she's in good shape or beautiful, that she's an idiot; that she'll steal their boyfriends/husbands; that she's naturally in shape; that she bought her looks; that if she has professional success, she's sexed her way there; that life, for her, is easy & effortless.

And then a whole lot of those judging people, man, they gloat--they get a little gleam in their eyes--when people that they envy do fall upon hard times. As if those people somehow thought that they were impervious to failure.

Maybe people do those judging things to elevate themselves in some way. To continue with ^^^ example, if those judging people demonize someone who is beautiful or who is in shape or who is both, it justifies their own choices, their own circumstances. Usually it's pretty easy to spot people who do those things; they think they're slick or that they're being covert when actually, they're pretty transparent.

I don't know. It's odd.

edit: It's gorgeous out and I took a walk and realized that I forgot to say this: When I typed ^^^, I was responding to the first half of this thread. I didn't read all of the rest of it, I don't know how it evolved. You would think that by now, I'd learn to read all the way through a thread before posting a response in it. I am such a slow learner.

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 10:11 AM

There's a sort of hostility, a quickness to judge with people who are jealous. They take sniping little jabs at people, they're often indirect in their communications, they often taunt people for their hard work and celebrate their failures.

They look at, say, a woman who--underneath it all--they envy and they assume, because she's in good shape or beautiful, that she's an idiot; that she'll steal their boyfriends/husbands; that she's naturally in shape; that she bought her looks; that if she has professional success, she's sexed her way there; that life, for her, is easy & effortless.

And then a whole lot of those judging people, man, they gloat--they get a little gleam in their eyes--when people that they envy do fall upon hard times. As if those people somehow thought that they were impervious to failure.

Maybe people do those judging things to elevate themselves in some way. To continue with ^^^ example, if those judging people demonize someone who is beautiful or who is in shape or who is both, it justifies their own choices, their own circumstances. Usually it's pretty easy to spot people who do those things; they think they're slick or that they're being covert when actually, they're pretty transparent.

I don't know. It's odd.

(lb) (y)

Nuzzolese

04-27-2006, 10:18 AM

(lb) (y)

(!) :)

Echewta

04-27-2006, 10:29 AM

I unscrewed my finest bottle of wine when i heard.

enree erzweglle

04-27-2006, 10:31 AM

Enree is the best. I can see why everyone was so excited when she came back.If I'm so all that, how come I haven't figured out who you really are? :)

I am so bad with aliases. It's like I (usually...often...sometimes...maybe just rarely) know one when I see one, but I can't figure out based on writing styles who's behind them.

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 10:39 AM

If I'm so all that, how come I haven't figured out who you really are? :)

I am so bad with aliases. It's like I (usually...often...sometimes...maybe just rarely) know one when I see one, but I can't figure out based on writing styles who's behind them.

SPACE

beastiegirrl101

04-27-2006, 10:40 AM

SPACE

Monkey? I thought Mute was Mae.

TAL

04-27-2006, 10:42 AM

No, just Space. No monkey.

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 10:49 AM

I'm a shared account. I really thought everyone knew this by now.

give us your names.

submit.

mickill

04-27-2006, 10:51 AM

cmute is a predator. This has been well-documented.

Sarky Devotchka

04-27-2006, 10:53 AM

I say some of you need to watch Miss Congeniality again! Learn about the fun and friendship of pageants!

Miss Kentucky looks to me like your basic blonde porn actress. She's got pageant style, LA looks...she's built to that standard, I wouldn't say she's every American's ideal girl. How high are the ratings for Miss USA anyway? did any of you actually watch it? It aired on a friday night pretty much in the "dead zone" (since most people are watching the WB then, or cable). I watched part of it before going out. It was pretty boring and the evening gowns were awful.

Anyway, I agree with nuzz for the most part. Also, I don't think that the girls on here aspire to look like a barbie. That life seems pretty vacant to me. Besides, it's not like this chick's gonna be super famous or anything. The old pageant people are clinging to a half-dead concept, trying to keep the dream alive, but there's too much work involved with pageants, it's way easier to get famous from a reality show.

sab0tage

04-27-2006, 10:53 AM

its taking me ages to work out who people are without considering aliases and stuff!!!

DroppinScience

04-27-2006, 11:24 AM

Man, with all the riff-raff over this Miss USA, you'd think she ran over somebody's puppy or something.

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 11:27 AM

mickill this alias to make himself look cool.

Echewta uses this alias to make silly threads.

kll uses this alias to add more perverted posts.

Dandy uses this alias to tell herself how hot she is...

And me, I'm Mae, and I'm tired of living a lie.

but the pictures! and your "kid"!

surely they must be real.......

cosmo105

04-27-2006, 11:30 AM

Ed, i didn't mean that to come out snide. i'm sorry. i was just trying to explain to zorra why you would think otherwise. i said your friend was a smart cookie :\

qdrop, i honestly don't give a shit whether you think i want to look like her or closer to the "standard of beauty" or not. it depresses me that THAT'S the standard of beauty because when i look at her i don't see "good genes" - i see hours in the salon getting her hair highlighted just right, the tanning booth, the dentist's office, the gym, probably starving herself for a few hours before the competition to look perfect, et cetera. and it creates this unnatural ideal that can lead people less comfortable with their images to strive for something most of them can't attain, and lead to even lower self-confidence. and that's why i dislike what our standards of "sexy" and "beautiful" are becoming. i don't think that based on her natural looks alone she's all that spectacular. and her boobs scared the crap out of me. but that's just my opinion, not that i really feel that putting it out there is going to make a difference. we've already had this discussion.

Nuzzolese

04-27-2006, 11:34 AM

I wouldn't give the MISS USA title that much credit.

cosmo105

04-27-2006, 11:39 AM

well yeah, i know it's not exactly PURTIEST WOMAN ALIVE or anything, but does it not judge contestants based on appearances? i mean, hell, she's the #1 miss in the USA! U! S! A! U! S! A! U! S! A!

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 11:45 AM

qdrop, i honestly don't give a shit whether you think i want to look like her or closer to the "standard of beauty" or not. it depresses me that THAT'S the standard of beauty because when i look at her i don't see "good genes" - i see hours in the salon getting her hair highlighted just right, the tanning booth, the dentist's office, the gym, probably starving herself for a few hours before the competition to look perfect, et cetera. and it creates this unnatural ideal that can lead people less comfortable with their images to strive for something most of them can't attain, and lead to even lower self-confidence. and that's why i dislike what our standards of "sexy" and "beautiful" are becoming. i don't think that based on her natural looks alone she's all that spectacular. and her boobs scared the crap out of me. but that's just my opinion, not that i really feel that putting it out there is going to make a difference. we've already had this discussion.

HA...

There's a sort of hostility, a quickness to judge with people who are jealous. They take sniping little jabs at people, they're often indirect in their communications, they often taunt people for their hard work and celebrate their failures.

They look at, say, a woman who--underneath it all--they envy and they assume, because she's in good shape or beautiful, that she's an idiot; that she'll steal their boyfriends/husbands; that she's naturally in shape; that she bought her looks; that if she has professional success, she's sexed her way there; that life, for her, is easy & effortless.

And then a whole lot of those judging people, man, they gloat--they get a little gleam in their eyes--when people that they envy do fall upon hard times. As if those people somehow thought that they were impervious to failure.

Maybe people do those judging things to elevate themselves in some way. To continue with ^^^ example, if those judging people demonize someone who is beautiful or who is in shape or who is both, it justifies their own choices, their own circumstances. Usually it's pretty easy to spot people who do those things; they think they're slick or that they're being covert when actually, they're pretty transparent.

hey, enough with the skinny-hate, okay? Some people look like that and they like to be healthy and workout and avoid junk food. It doesn't mean they're starving themselves. A few steaks and donuts vs a couple of skipped meals; which is worse? I'd say the bad food is worse. Some guy saying a girl ought to do some situps - so she'd look the way he'd like her to look, is just as bad as saying she ought to gain weight. Cosmo's all health-crusader and then when a girl's on the skinny side she assumes she's unhealthy.

i find it entertaining when you deny other people's assessments of you....and then proceed to walk face first into them.

priceless.

Nuzzolese

04-27-2006, 11:51 AM

Well, she's no miss Universe. She may be #1 in the US but she'll never make it in outerspace. Leave that territory to Canadians.

b i o n i c

04-27-2006, 11:52 AM

You're familiar with them?

yes

Sarky Devotchka

04-27-2006, 11:55 AM

I say some of you need to watch Miss Congeniality again! Learn about the fun and friendship of pageants!

Miss Kentucky looks to me like your basic blonde porn actress. She's got pageant style, LA looks...she's built to that standard, I wouldn't say she's every American's ideal girl. How high are the ratings for Miss USA anyway? did any of you actually watch it? It aired on a friday night pretty much in the "dead zone" (since most people are watching the WB then, or cable). I watched part of it before going out. It was pretty boring and the evening gowns were awful.

Anyway, I agree with nuzz for the most part. Also, I don't think that the girls on here aspire to look like a barbie. That life seems pretty vacant to me. Besides, it's not like this chick's gonna be super famous or anything. The old pageant people are clinging to a half-dead concept, trying to keep the dream alive, but there's too much work involved with pageants, it's way easier to get famous from a reality show.

HEY NOBODY ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS. h8 u.

cosmo105

04-27-2006, 11:57 AM

you really think she's all natural? i highly doubt it. and i didn't say she was an idiot. i made no judgements about her intelligence, or anyone's, did i? and when i said starving herself for a few hours before a competition, i meant something along the lines of what bodybuilders do in order to lose water weight and all that crap in the few precous hours before going onstage. granted, that's an assumption on my part, but i figured they probably do something similar so they can show their best tone and shape and whatnot onstage. and taunting people for their hard work? oh right, i'm really jealous of someone whose livelihood is based on how much time they spend on their looks.

i don't know why you keep going back the jealous argument, or why you can't believe me when i say i'm really not. maybe i'm supposed to be, but no matter how i try to convince myself, i just don't want to look like that. i wouldn't want that kind of attention, to be honest. i'm happy right where i am. i don't mind not being slammin' hot or whatever. it's taken me years to get here, but i really like what i look like...and think that there's a lot more in life more important than looks. i don't find her very attractive. then again, i don't have a penis, and i actually have really picky standards on what i think is attractive in a female. the conventional standards of what is sexy today don't appeal to me.

stop turning this into a personal attack like you always do. you guys are all reading way too deeply into what i've said. i don't think she's anything special. that's all. i'm done with this argument.

Echewta

04-27-2006, 11:57 AM

http://ironstayn.com/images/cletus.jpg

Aannnnnddd scene!

b i o n i c

04-27-2006, 11:58 AM

Anyway, I agree with nuzz for the most part. Also, I don't think that the girls on here aspire to look like a barbie. That life seems pretty vacant to me. Besides, it's not like this chick's gonna be super famous or anything. The old pageant people are clinging to a half-dead concept, trying to keep the dream alive, but there's too much work involved with pageants, it's way easier to get famous from a reality show.

yes. but the last one is on the game show network now and the australian one is big over there. but yes, very antiquated, boring and stuffy.

Sarky Devotchka

04-27-2006, 12:00 PM

yes. but the last one is on the game show network now and the australian one is big over there. but yes, very antiquated, boring and stuffy.

they rerun the Miss USA pageant on the gameshow network? weird.

cosmo105

04-27-2006, 12:04 PM

Well, she's no miss Universe. She may be #1 in the US but she'll never make it in outerspace. Leave that territory to Canadians.
if you want my personal point of view pick another girl to marry you.

Nuzzolese

04-27-2006, 12:06 PM

Now these girls, much better. http://images.dance.net/images/i581/hop_hop.jpg

cosmo105

04-27-2006, 12:10 PM

i bet they can all do the running man in synch.

Sarky Devotchka

04-27-2006, 12:11 PM

that looks like cos on the top left. omg.

cosmo105

04-27-2006, 12:13 PM

GODDAMNIT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT NUZZ TOLD ME WHEN SHE FIRST SENT ME THAT PHOTO. just because she's latina doesn't mean she looks like me! that chick totally doesn't look like me. i'm like 10,000x more thuggish than that bitch, yo. i mean, when you get in this bitch's grill you in straight shit f'real, son!!

Sarky Devotchka

04-27-2006, 12:24 PM

GODDAMNIT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT NUZZ TOLD ME WHEN SHE FIRST SENT ME THAT PHOTO. just because she's latina doesn't mean she looks like me! that chick totally doesn't look like me. i'm like 10,000x more thuggish than that bitch, yo. i mean, when you get in this bitch's grill you in straight shit f'real, son!!

so, you're saying that's you?

cosmo105

04-27-2006, 12:25 PM

nah son. my chucks are way fuckin' dirrrtier than that. when you walk through the valley of the shadow of death like me...you gotta step in some serious shit, son. ahh naw son.

Sarky Devotchka

04-27-2006, 12:28 PM

gmile?

cosmo105

04-27-2006, 12:28 PM

WHEN YOU STEP TO THIS BITCH'S SHIT IT'S LIGHTS OUT SON!!

Echewta

04-27-2006, 12:36 PM

cosmo has a boy named sarky?

cosmo105

04-27-2006, 12:37 PM

yeah, i'm pointing to her in the white turned-up visor. i mean him. my son.

Sarky Devotchka

04-27-2006, 12:39 PM

YOU GOT SERVED!

cosmo105

04-27-2006, 12:41 PM

i think our gang's name should be something like 5acious or 5alive or 5 fast 5 furious.

Sarky Devotchka

04-27-2006, 12:46 PM

i think our gang's name should be something like 5acious or 5alive or 5 fast 5 furious.

I vote for 5alive, because it references Short Circuit, but also sort of looks like Saliva. BOTH ARE VERY TOUGH.

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 12:51 PM

dude, cosmo...
that's you.

seriously. if that's not you...then you have a long lost sister your family didn't tell you about...

cosmo105

04-27-2006, 12:51 PM

and it also implies that we're alive, and it's important that you know that, because we live such dangerous 5lives.

cosmo105

04-27-2006, 12:52 PM

dude, cosmo...
that's you.

seriously. if that's not you...then you have a long lost sister your family didn't tell you about...
YOU GUYS THAT DOESN'T LOOK THAT MUCH LIKE ME :(

MY ARMS ARE WAY MORE TONED :mad:

echewta, tell them my arms are more toned! tell them!!

Echewta

04-27-2006, 12:56 PM

All you chicks from the Philippines look the same to me. *shrug*

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 12:57 PM

MY ARMS ARE WAY MORE TONED :mad:

echewta, tell them my arms are more toned! tell them!!

then it was before your vegan days.

quit denying and post a pick of you doing the cabbage patch in unison...

what was the name of that chick group in Donnie Darko?...Sparkle-something...

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 12:57 PM

All you chicks from the Philippines look the same to me. *shrug*

dude, she's Laosion....get it right.

Echewta

04-27-2006, 12:58 PM

I got it right the first time. Don't tell me my Pacific islands/coastal countries.

mickill

04-27-2006, 12:58 PM

Wow, cos. I had no idea you were in the Hiphopaholiks!

mickill this alias to make himself look cool.

Echewta uses this alias to make silly threads.

kll uses this alias to add more perverted posts.

Dandy uses this alias to tell herself how hot she is...

And me, I'm Mae, and I'm tired of living a lie.
Don't try to spread the blame.

cosmo105

04-27-2006, 12:59 PM

i doubt sarky's committment to sparkle motion.

g-mile7

04-27-2006, 01:04 PM

It's not illegal so it's okay? Yeah people shouldn't be judging people based on looks - which is why the bathing suit thing is fucking ridiculous. But why change standards now? The point is that there's NO POINT of having the swimsuit competition besides getting ratings. It has nothing to do with why the women deserve the title.

It's not hurting you directly so why do you care? And yea it isn't illegal so why all the "pfff" at this and that. Not to mention the bathing suit portion of shows like that has been round since at least 1940's-1950's (just the style of bathing suit has changed). It's part of the show and part of the overal competition. It is a show to fine, in terms of this society, the ideal woman.

Sarky Devotchka

04-27-2006, 01:04 PM

I'm totally committed.

also, I'm wearing overalls right now. I found them in my closet.

g-mile7

04-27-2006, 01:05 PM

not necessarily, she just cant accept that her points are invalid because she's trying to stereotype everybody

yes, i think at least half the people in this thread have shown you that you are in fact wrong. it's just super annoying that you don't seem to accept that people can in fact be intelligent, and have dignity, and participate in pageants at the same time.

ok, so are you trying to prove to me that my friend isn't REALLY smart just because she's book smart? what the fuck were you trying to prove by saying that? second, all pageants are not "beauty contests," you using that term shows old fashioned 1950's ingorance, and you're essentially saying that girls only go on there to show off their bodies, which is bullshit. "neh neh neh that's like old reading playboy for the articles cliche blah" fuck you, you obviously have never been to a pageant before, 90% of the audience are family matters you dont have people sitting there jacking off. most girls (i'm not saying all, im sure there's plenty of bimbos in there too) don't even really care about the swimsuit part, I know it's my friends least favorite part of it and she refuses to wear a two piece. still's just so fucking IRRITATING how someone like you who is obviously very intelligent can make such blind, spiteful comments about people you don't know about. of course, me saying these things wont matter to you, because you're still going to spout ignorant-ass shit whenever a topic like this pops up, and you're always going to harbor ill will towards these girls. but whatever.

and fuck you for your snide comment jess. you're a real pal.

Good points Auton and if it's the girl I think your talking bout she is pretty intelligent.

cosmo105

04-27-2006, 01:12 PM

It is a show to fine, in terms of this society, the ideal woman.
they make her pay like $350.

g-mile7

04-27-2006, 01:13 PM

gmile?

Funny how you stereotype me.....and the fact that even with all the videos, songs and post I make I prove I do not speak like that. Damn shame.

g-mile7

04-27-2006, 01:16 PM

they make her pay like $350.

Her parent's choice. People don't see that this is no diffrent then anything in our entertainment world today. Also most of those shows help with confidence (at least those girls who enjoy the being there more then the losing). Some even consider it a sport (which I don't but since it is competition I guess that falls in that mold)

you type like that more then me on here, but yet I am the first person to come to mind when "hood rich" language comes to play....but then again I'm the only one seeing the "unicorn":rolleyes:

g-mile7

04-27-2006, 01:26 PM

this thread has officially taken all 12" of the dildo.

there's just no were else to go....

You made good points so it was a good thread, but over analyzing other people and the decisons THEY makes in THEIR OWN LIVES is flawed judgement.But then again this is the place for that.

Auton

04-27-2006, 01:28 PM

you type like that more then me on here, but yet I am the first person to come to mind when "hood rich" language comes to play....but then again I'm the only one seeing the "unicorn":rolleyes:

yee yee u no how i be son i alawys tlak this wahy on the real. chek ur email somn

TurdBerglar

04-27-2006, 01:28 PM

i still don't think she's sexually attractive

g-mile7

04-27-2006, 01:35 PM

yee yee u no how i be son i alawys tlak this wahy on the real. chek ur email somn

Oh snap!(I do say that a lot though in real life). Betta be some fly ass BREEEEZIESSS':)

beastieangel01

04-27-2006, 01:37 PM

ummmmmmmmmmmmmm yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah

Sarky Devotchka

04-27-2006, 01:37 PM

I was referencing your emo-esque poetry pictures, gmile...with the valley and the shadow and whatnot...seemed like something you'd say. I did not mean to offend.

ampm

04-27-2006, 01:48 PM

Seems like the pretty posters are for the pageant and the 'nonpretty' girls are against it. Interesting.

mickill

04-27-2006, 01:51 PM

Good points Auton and if it's the girl I think your talking bout she is pretty intelligent.
Impressive. Especially since you're an obvious candidate for someone who could even make that kind of an assessment.

Anyway, I guess my ignoring your comments for pretty much two months straight didn't do much to help you get me off your mind already. You might want to devote that energy you waste talking slick to learning how to rap, though.

Qdrop

04-27-2006, 01:58 PM

Impressive. Especially since you're an obvious candidate for someone who could even make that kind of an assessment.

Anyway, I guess my ignoring your comments for pretty much two months straight didn't do much to help you get me off your mind already. You might want to devote that energy you waste talking slick to learning how to rap, though.

FLAME ON!

beastieangel01

04-27-2006, 02:02 PM

FLAME ON!

hahahaha, I just heard it, you know, fantastic 4 style. I almost peed.

mickill

04-27-2006, 02:02 PM

No. That's all I have to say.

That and that he's a ridiculous human being.

sab0tage

04-27-2006, 02:06 PM

FLAME ON!

I'm gone,

I'm so sweet like a nice bon bon:D

Echewta

04-27-2006, 02:33 PM

This is one of the best threads ever.

http://eil.com/newgallery/Bjork-Venus-As-A-Boy-28941.jpg

ToucanSpam

04-27-2006, 02:42 PM

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

waaaaaaaaaaaaah boo hoo

Is the fighting over for god's sake. She's not that great, Miss USA is a fucking stupid pageant anyways.

Vote Martha Stewart for President in 2012.

DroppinScience

04-27-2006, 02:46 PM

Man, with all the riff-raff over this Miss USA, you'd think she ran over somebody's puppy or something.

So, whose puppy did she run over with her car that caused such an uproar?

cosmo105

04-27-2006, 02:50 PM

Seems like the pretty posters are for the pageant and the 'nonpretty' girls are against it. Interesting.
wow, what a stupid fucking thing to say.