Richard D. Hall interviews Detective Constable Gary Heseltine. Gary has spent the last seven years compiling the PRUFOS (Police Reporting of
UFO Sightings) database. In his research which goes back to 1901, over 700 police officers have been involved in UFO sightings. He talks about the
Alan Godfrey case from 1980, the Rendlesham Forest case and gives his views on Disclosure, the future and describes some of the most notable
cases.

Wigit, thanks for the reply -there are plenty of other police UFO reports and documents at the linked thread but some of the Police officer testimony
(and object descriptions) have been pretty freaky over the years:

“It was approximately 50 feet in length. There were portholes on the side but there were no visible signs of propulsion. The ship
appeared to be metallic and gave off a bright glow. There was a low whirring sound coming from it.” Police Constable Brian Earnshaw - Bacup, Lancashire,October 1969
Two other uniformed officers, PC Colin Donahoe and Malcolm Reader also witnessed the object from a different location.

“There was an eerie, greenish-grey glow in the sky. Then I picked out an object about thirty feet long and built up in three sections with the top
looking like a dustbin lid. It gave off a high pitched whine. I was paralysed. I just couldn’t believe it.” Police Constable Colin Perks - Wilmslow, Cheshire,March 1966

"The light would throb with an increased intensity prior to each change of colour and hover in the sky for some time and then dart and cover large
distances, doing a number of right-angled turns at high speed". Senior Constable Andrew Luhrs -Gladstone,Southern Australia,May 22, 1996

"I happened to look up and there was that UFO right above the cornfield, it was just hovering right up above the power lines. -i t was just like the
ones you see on TV.
Then it took off like a bullet, just tremendously fast -if I live to be 100, I'll never forget it," Henrico County Sheriff A.D. "Toby" Mathews Richmond , Virginia, United States August 9, 1966

"At first I though we were seeing a ship on fire on the horizon towards Ilfracombe. But then it rose out of the water like a blood-red sun, a good
deal larger than a full-sized harvest moon.It remained at sea level, then suddenly took off at a fantastic speed towards the Atlantic." Chief-Inspector Reginald Jones, of "D" Division, Glamorgan Police - object also witnessed by another officer,09-01-1957.

"It was cigar shaped and yellow in colour.It travelled along slowly for a few seconds, then shot off into the night at a fantastic speed. We didn’t
know what it was, nor had we ever seen anything like it but many reports have been made at the police station of strange lights and objects". Police Constable William Bryne -Banbury, Oxfordshire.
Object also witnessed by Police Constable Perry Jackson.

"It was a giant plate of light. It lit up the whole horizon with a glare. It was flying low over the landscape and appeared to be spinning" Police Constable Eric Pinnock - Warminster, Wiltshire,30/11/65

There was light coming out from little windows and light changed colors several times, from soft blue to red to green and other colors. It didn't
spin or anything. It just hovered around there -then the thing just picked up and took off, north west, toward Satartia." Madison County Sheriff's Deputy Kenneth Creel - Flora, Mississippi, United States,February 10, 1977

"We made several attempts to follow it, or I should say get closer to it, but the object seemed aware of us and we were more successful remaining
motionless and allow it to approach us, which it did on several occasions.Each time the object neared us, we experienced radio interference.
The object was shaped like a football, the edges, or I should say outside of the object were clear to us...the glow was emitted by the object, was not
a reflection of other lights". California Highway Patrol Officer Charles A. Carson - California, United States, August 13, 1960.
Object also witnessed by Police Officer Stanley Scott
Object also witnessed by Highway Patrolman Louis Younger

"The bulk of the object was plainly visible at this time and appeared to be triangular shaped with a bright purple light on the left end and the
smaller, less bright, blue light on the right end. The bulk of the object appeared to be dark gray in color with no other distinguishing features. It
appeared to be about 200 feet wide and 40-50 feet thick in the middle, tapering off toward both ends. There was no noise or any trail. The bright
purple light illuminated the ground directly underneath it and the area in front of it, including the highway and the interior of our patrol car.
After arriving at approximately its original position,it went straight up in the air and disappeared at 25-30 degrees above the horizon." Deputy Sheriff Bob Goode Damon, Texas, United States September 3, 1965
Object also witnessed by Chief Deputy Billy McCoy

He just stood there with his mouth open for a minute, as bright as it was, and he looked down. And I started looking down and I looked at my hands and
my clothes weren't burning or anything, when it stopped right over on top of us.The only thing, the only sound in the whole area was a hum...like a
transformer being loaded or an overloaded transformer when it changes....
.... it went PSSSSSHHEW, straight up; and I mean when it went up, friend, it didn't play no games; it went straight up." Deputy Sheriff Dale Spaur, Portage County Incident, Ohio, April 17, 1966
Also witnessed by Deputy Wilbur Neff.

"This object came at us from the west. At first it looked like a red hot piece of coal about the size of a quarter held at arm's length. In a matter
of seconds it was as large as a ruler held at arm's length. That is when it came to a complete stop.
"The shape of the object was distinct. The body of the object was solid bright red and it gave off a pulsating red glow completely around the object.
The object hovered a few seconds, then made a left turn and again hovered for a few seconds, then went straight up like a shot. We watched it until it
completely faded beyond the stars." Patrolman LeRoy A. Arboreen - Dunellen, New Jersey, United States December 20, 1958
Object also witnessed by Patrolman B. Talada

Originally posted by andy1033
Any policeman is a murderer, so why would we care for there views.

What a strange and silly thing to say.

Here's a good article from the Australian police UFO reporting website Police UFO.com and it makes some
interesting points about the credibility and reliability of Police witnesses - many of which are highly trained and experienced in reporting what they
see.

The Police Officer UFO Witness

Why is the police officer considered a special witness to UFOs? Why are police officers important to the investigation of UFOs?

Nowhere else in the UFO phenomenon is more attention given than to that of the UFO witness. The witness lies at the core of the phenomena, if indeed
it isn’t the core itself.
In classic UFOlogy the witness is the sole source of data on the topic, providing the raw descriptions of sightings and experiences. Of all the
studies and literature on the topic of UFOs, no subject dominates like reports from witnesses. Not all detailed witness reports are considered
worthwhile however. More often than not the weight of the report will rest upon the credibility of the witness and the reliability of the witness to
observe. Enter the police.

This section provides a review of what makes the officer such a critical observer at the core of UFO phenomenon, an introduction to the police
witness/sighting saga, and touches on what progress has been made in providing a system to afford the officer-witness to come forward in order to
contribute to the subject. As good a place to start as any, the witness experience provides a practical foundation on which to gradually expand.

1. THE WITNESS PROFILE

It cannot be stressed enough that police rank as amongst the highest of credible and reliable witnesses in the UFO field, in literature being compared
to astronauts, pilots, and engineer-scientists. Dr J Allen Hynek, in his 1975 FBI briefing, goes so far as to suggest his belief that police are the
best witnesses, when he states:

“Experience definitely shows that the best reports, those with the greatest information content, come from technically trained, professional people,
especially law enforcement personnel.”

Bill Birnes, chief editor of UFO Magazine, makes the case explicitly in the television show “UFO Hunters – Cops vs UFOs”, that “Police
officers are the most credible witnesses who are trained to observed.”

In terms of rating our witness sources, when we talk of the ‘police witness’ we are profiling. Like law enforcement agencies, UFOlogist have long
known the importance of witness profiling, but reports, reviews and catalogues on the subject are difficult to obtain because of the security involved
in protecting the witness.

However the casual assertion that police are the best UFO witnesses has become so prevalent that it has almost assumed a sense of cliché amongst the
UFO research community. Questions and discussion do arise, and since the police witness is so critical to our inquiry, it seems fitting to elaborate
on those two basic assumptions: That the police officer is credible, and that the police officer is a reliable observer.

2. Credibility

The public will admit the obvious authority that comes with the uniform, and also in a court of law. Many have argued that should the UFO debate ever
make it to a fair court of law, the issue would have been resolved long ago. There are obviously those who do not agree that authority in itself is
enough to consider the officer to be a credible witness.

What comes with the authority however, is a deep requirement for responsibility and accountability. Experienced officers have a lot to loose in coming
forth with their amazing stories, or as Hynek calls, “credible people with incredible stories”, in the eye of the public, professionally and in
the eyes their peers. We have mentioned earlier the culture of policing in general, and so it is not lightly that the officer makes a report. Outside
of formal research, this credibility quickly comes into question. Bill Birnes, in the same UFO Hunters episode, makes the case that, "These are the
people whose eyewitness testimony we trust is credible, 'except' when it comes to UFOs, and that's what's so frightening to me."

And yet their stories continue to go on record, and this in itself leads one to consider that something extraordinary is going on. What profound and
very real experiences are these officers having?

And it is for this reason more than any other, one might ultimately confess, that the officer does, albeit in general, make a rather credible witness.

3.The Reliable Observer

Does the officer make a good UFO observer? The police officer is definitely a trainer observer, and many police can rightly claim also to be
experienced observers, so we are half way there. But does this qualify the officer as the best observer, and more remarkably, a good observer of
unusual aerial phenomena? The answer is not straightforward.

We must take into account the experience of the particular officer. For example an officer with many years of night surveillance, maybe near an
airport, or perhaps even a previous history in avionics, would certainly make the case for a good UFO observer.

The public has not considered all the avenues, if it has assumed that the officer is not a special observer of unusual aerial phenomena. There is
another characteristic of the officer that makes the case for a strong observer. When Hynek was referring to his list of good observers, including law
enforcement personnel, the point he was making was that the experienced professional mind was most capable of articulating the observation in detail.
And therefore, it is the ability and experience of the officer to reliably report the observation that makes the reliable observer.

There is, further, yet another important aspect that must be considered. If by “reliable observer” we were to interpret that the officer is in a
position that is fortunate for the observation of UFO phenomena, then this too clearly suits our nocturnal police patrols, or fits the bill, one might
say. It must be acknowledged that the night-shift officer on the beat is certainly at a statistical advantage for witnessing strange nocturnal
happenings.

it’s obvious that what I said in my last U2U was right buddy.
Gary Heseltine did really a great job by creating this database including 330 cases and the witness statements of more than 750 police officers.
Look at those numbers, it is really remarkable, and then to think that these are only British UFO police sightings.

Originally posted by spacevisitor
Hi karl 12, thanks for sharing this one,

it’s obvious that what I said in my last U2U was right buddy.
Gary Heseltine did really a great job by creating this database including 330 cases and the witness statements of more than 750 police officers.
Look at those numbers, it is really remarkable, and then to think that these are only British UFO police sightings.

I go watch that video interview later.

Hey bud, he's certainly compiled a lot of credible reports and some of the testimony is very strange indeed - there are also quite a number of cases
where multiple officers have witnessed the same thing so I think you're going to like the interview.

Here's Gary Heseltine speaking from the IUFOC in Laughlin, Nevada and I think it's good that people are starting to recognize his work and see
just how many police UFO reports there actualy are.

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