Jimn, do you realize you rated the quality of this route a "bomb" which means 0 stars, putrid, ugly rock, etc? But your written description of the route says "excellent". You may be accidentally using the "bomb" when you didn't intend to.

I've been taking some classes at CSU, so have become somewhat intimate with the area. In the picture of Cracky Face, the crack to the climbers left (Final Finger) is seen. If this is Final Finger then it may be 5.9+, but certainly isn't 5.10d. . . nor is Cracky Face 10c. That said, I do believe that the crux start for S-Crack is 10c or so.

Very short but fun stuff (all three) - however, the ratings sure seem to be off.

I did not rate these climbs as I thought they felt to me, I rated them in accordance to Bob Horan's Colorado Front Range Bouldering Volume 1. I would agree with the ratings seeming soft minus S-Crack. The ratings were as follows.

Hey, thanks for the info Jimn. It's hard to believe that Final Finger is rated 11-. But, There have been many Horan climbs that I couldn't (and can't!) do. I guess I was just having a stellar day (it was probably the 'roids/crank/viagara mixture I was experimenting with). I'll try them again sober. . . . I tried that roof-route at Duncans and it 'bout kicked my ass. . . it's supposedly 10a, though I would argue 10+ - maybe I was sober that day.

I think that the general consensus is that most of the Torture Chamber is a clusterbomb as far as ratings go and I'm not sure where it started or came from or if I am even on the right climbs, I think I was? According to the guide books I've used I thought I was but I agree that those ratings are not just a little off they are whole grades off, what am I gonna do? Go climbing up Boulder Canyon on Saturday for some multi-pitch trad routes, Hopefully I am on the right ones and if not I hope I have fun.