Meet the 12 Seated Jurors

Juror 1 — The Counselor: White, female, age 65, married, two children. Retired nurse and volunteer counselor. Death penalty
stance: “I value life. I also value the criminal justice system.” Has smelled decomposing bodies. Capable of understanding, relating to others the scientific evidence in trial, her communication skills and education qualify her as a strong candidate for jury foreperson.

Juror 2 — The IT Worker: Black male, mid-thirties, married, two children: a daughter, 4 and son, 9. Like defendant, Casey Anthony, juror’s mother was a single mom. “My impression was that, ‘yes, I thought she did it.’ … If I had to return a verdict, I would say ‘not guilty’ right now.” Death penalty stance: Does not believe in the death penalty. “God is the one that makes the final judgment.”

Juror 3 — The Weaver: White, female, age 32, single, youngest of five children. Nursing student, St. Petersburg College. Crafty: Hobby is weaving; works in fiber and is a member of a weavers’ guild. Her pet dog is a rat terrier. Said she has little knowledge of and is not following the case. “I know my ignorance works in my favor at this point!” Admitted she wanted to be on the jury. On a scale of 1 to 10, she rates the death penalty at “a three or a five.”

Juror 4 — The Church Lady: Black female, 40s, no children, lives alone. Unknown occupation. Plays “Farmville” on Facebook. “Most of the time, I play my computer games” she notes. Quiet, unassuming, does not like to judge people by what other people say about them.

Juror 5 — The Retired Nurse’s Aid: White, female, late 50s, three children. Has 11th grade education. Had a driving under the
influence arrest in 1998. Lives with boyfriend, a retired plumber. Was a juror for a criminal trial case. Does not own a computer. Works in yard, goes to gym. Death penalty stance: “I guess I believe in the death penalty. I’d have to know a lot of facts before I really considered it.”

Juror 6 — The Chef: White male, 33, married, two children, ages 6 and 21 months. Sells restaurant equipment and is in Orlando on business once a week. Has University of Florida business degree and owns a cat. Did not want to be on the jury. Could vote for the death penalty; “If the law dictated it, I would be able to follow it.”

Juror 7 — The Lawyer’s Daughter: White female, 41, divorced with no children. Once a victim of home invasion, but physically uninjured. Works as administrative assistance in juvenile justice welfare. She
has limited knowledge of the case, maintaining that she could vote to recommend the death penalty. “It would be — gosh — a solemn decision, but it is an option under the law.”

Juror 8 — Verizon Service Representative: White, female, 50s, married, two sons approximately Casey Anthony’s age (mid-twenties). Father worked in law enforcement. She would have no problem
with the death penalty if warranted, provided she had heard “all the facts.”

Juror 9 — The Logger: White male, 53, never married. Semi-retired; moved to Florida 4 years ago from Indiana because he was “sick of snow.” The caregiver for a stroke sufferer; he also does odd jobs.
Watches PBS and the History Channel. He believes Casey Anthony’s “whole story” has not come out; holds no bias, supports the death penalty, and could vote to recommend it “in the proper situation.”

Juror 10 — Verizon Retention Specialist: White male, 57, never married, no children. When asked what he knows about the case, he said, “I really don’t know any details …” and that he does believe “… everyone is innocent until proven guilty.” Disclosed that his sister and her boyfriend committed a violent crime against their father. He regards the death penalty as a “necessary option.”

Juror 11 — The Teacher: White male, 30s, unmarried. A high school physical education and health teacher who believes Casey Anthony is guilty, who also relates the opinion in the teachers’ lounge is that Casey is guilty. In his profession as an educator, says he “had to learn to listen to differing opinions,” and could put aside his leanings in order to fairly judge Casey Anthony. States the death penalty is a “necessary option.”

Juror 12 — The Publix Cook: White female, 60s, married to Publix supermarket employee, two children and one young grandchild. Has very little knowledge of the case, although she initially followed it. No
cable TV; “not that into” newspapers or TV. She does not own a computer. Rating the death penalty as ten on a scale of one to ten, she would have no problem deciding on LWOP (Life without Opportunity for Parole) or the death penalty

Alternates

1.) Juror #3093

Female, 48, surgical technician

Married, husband out of work, 2 grown children

Served on a civil case jury

Likes watching sports and history channel

Makes yarn and weaves

2.) Juror #3170

Male, teacher, married for four years

1 son from previous marriage

2 teenage stepchildren

Is originally from Cincinnati

Never served on a jury

3.) Juror #4013

Female, cashier at car dealership

Widower, mother to 12-yr-old son

Followed case on TV

Husband was in jail on drug charges

No opinion on death penalty

4.) Juror #4192

Male, 25, carpenter

Single, half-brother and sister

Lives with parents

Once charged with drug possession

Visited Orlando before for theme parks, magic
game

5.) Juror #3308

Male, 39, water plant operator for St. Pete

Married, no children, has 3 dogs

In Coast Guard for 12 yrs

Had plane and baseball tickets to see Grandma

Never served on a jury

For reference purposes

TheJBMission~

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Dr. Keith says-
“Again, I am not saying that this is what happened. I am saying that it is plausible from the standpoint of a forensic psychiatrist. And I just don’t know how you send a woman to jail for life, or for decades, or to her death for killing her daughter, when there’s an alternate storyline that holds water just as well.”

Most of my opinion of this case is similar to most on this site, but the one thing I maintain that I think maybe Lisa is the only other who agrees is the possibility that George and the rest of the A’s are innocent of any wrong doing. Im not saying I am not tempted to believe otherwise, but to me I just cant get past the comment that the A’s atty released to the press. He mentioned that the A’s were willing to do anything to save Casey’s life.

I think for now the Def. will maintain the theory they presented to the jury, while they continue to investigate. I truly feel that the above comment made by Dr. Keith was the EXACT reason JB used George and Kronk as the villians in his defense strategy, to show it could just as easy be someone else, but since the LE didn’t do their job, only focused on Casey, we wouldn’t know. I certainly feel that Casey is innocent, but they may not be able to prove who the TRUE killer is yet. Especially if its as big as alot of us have speculated it could be.

I know most of you agree that GA is involved, and I completely respect that, and It does make sense, but I will reserve the right to hold out:)

You have to remember there was a ‘juror’ who actually ‘teaches classes on trial evidence” … I believe this is the guy who bullied the few or others into a not guilty verdict … no way would all 12 beleive it was an ”accident” … just my opinion but the media has not picked up on this juror as of yet …
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Arkansasmimi
July 5, 2011 – 11:11 pm
My question to Express **** operator of The CayleeDaily

I just watched a few min of Greta and she had on the phone juror 14, and I thought that was the teacher that was on the jury, but when I went and looked online at the jury info this is what it says on about.com:

Alternate No. 2
A middle-aged white male who has been married three times and has a grown son and two stepchildren. He teaches U.S. government in high school.

and this is the other teacher,
Juror No. 11
A white male in his 30′s who has been a 10th grade physical education and health teacher for 15 years. He has an uncle who worked for the FBI.

Pre-Trial Publicity: He said from what he had heard about the case he thought Casey Anthony was probably guilty.

Death Penalty: He said he could lay aside his opinion about the case and he could consider voting for the death penalty if she was found guilty.

So if it were a teacher who “bullied” it would have to be the PE teacher…cause the other was an alt and didnt deliberate or vote. Does anyone else have any diff info? Just wondering

Hi everyone, I’m off to bed. Thanks to those who answered my post and I feel like an idiot. As you know I quit smoking – 4 days today. When I got off of the computer I applied a new patch and within 1/2 hr I felt better and well felt like an idiot. I don’t feel like an outsider. I’m sensitive to begin with add withdrawal to that and that equals stupid.

Thank-you for explaining the term hillbilly to me. I went and googled it. I thought it was a cultrural thing that I got wrong.

==================================== I get it Danielle. I say that too when something good happens.
Example: “Jeff Ashton is retiring” Great, “there is a God!” 😀
Good luck with quitting smoking too.
JB
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Lisa, tks for telling me you’ve been sensitive too. I wasn’t saying Lisa, there’s a God. It’s what I say after something good happens.

The Canadian/American thing that was me being overly sensitive. When I compare the 2 it’s because myself I find it interesting to learn about other countries. When no one says anything I’m thinking people got me wrong. It’s hard to type things the way you’d say them when others don’t see facial expressions etc… easy to be misunderstood. I’m sure I’ve been doing exactly that today reading things in a way that people don’t mean.

According to Websleuths here is what Casey mouthed during Linda’s rebuttal yesterday: 1) starts at 8:10 LDB: what amazing parent acts with complete indifference? – I’ve never acted with indifference. 2) starts at 8:47 LBD: a mother who tried to protect her child, even in death – What the hell does she think I’m doing now? 3) starts at 9:18 LDB: If this was an accident that GA knew about – And George never said that. 4) starts a 9:54 LDB: Mr Anthony said he would trade places with his daughter in a second… – Then why didn’t he? 5) starts at 12:34 LDB: Why would he want his co conspirator to talk to the cops… – Cause he knew I wouldn’t. He knew I never would talk to them. 6) starts at 20:29 this is the phone call that KC made from jail on 7/16 talking about where they need to look up Zanny. – ??? still working on this one! 7) starts at 26:28 LDB: GA didn’t now where that car was – George said that, I didn’t. 7) starts at 26:53 LDB: They didn’t now where she was or where the car was… – George knew. 8) starts at 28:28 LDB: even GA didn’t have access to all these things… – That’s not true. 9) starts at 29:06 LDB: it was all CA fault for leaving the ladder down… – I never said that. I would never blame my mom. 10) starts at 29:14 LDB: Let’s twist the knife in him too. (talking about GA) – This is his fault.

HGM,
Late last night we and several others got exchanging theories, etc and in the discussion there were interesting talks about the counter culture of things going on in other states and cities. Do you happen to know anything regarding Richmond, Va? That’s my hometown, and I have started to seriusly think about moving out of FL back home. Esp. since my son is going to be released in 600 days 🙂 and will have a criminal record. Just wondering if youknew anything.

Hi y’all, I have never posted here, but have been reading everyday all the blogs and comments for weeks. I’ve really enjoyed seeing so many have an open mind about this case and looking at the evidence presented. 🙂

So does anyone else find it odd that when CA first called 911 her story had the last time as June 7th and Caseys zanaida’s drop off date was June 9th. I think the only reason she changed it to the last time being June 15th because it was captured on the computer with her visit to the old age home. Any way, I had a thought, maybe (i say maybe cuz i still have my suspicions about other theories) but maybe there is no real mystery or conspiracy, maybe a tragic accident that no one wanted to happen did. And in a moment of passionate worries for what the future could hold if reported, in a moment of weakness they just do the unthinkable, hide it. As a family or as a pair whichever, regardless to who ever knew, i am most sure they did not want it to happen, they may have been a crazy family with their little (okay big) quirks, but which family doesn’t. they all adored that child, you could totally see she was loved and in abundance. any mother or person if observant enough can see it. i mean of all the crazy things to do, could you really honestly say you know exactly what you would do? i for one am all for police help when or if something horrific happens to my kid i prefer a trained person to help me, but who’s to say that in a moment of weakness what one would do especially if they are in the mindset that they will go to jail for it, what a sorrowful dilemma… maybe it was just as simple as a accident

and on a side note; i think the incest stories, yes could be true, but what if, just what if Casey was so hurt by her family’s rejection and finger pointing in her direction, maybe that just pissed her off just that much to say, well okay, sweet, maybe i should make you into a child molester then dad… i thought we were sticking to the kidnapping story, now u turn on me, everyone turns on me… how mad would you be if you were facing a death sentence for an accident that the exact people who helped you cover up due to an insane life shattering moment, those people are now turning on you… esp if u know he has an anger issue, yeah i will show you poof your now a child molester… maybe?

RIP Caylee Marie and good luck in your future Casey Marie! Still praying for you here in PA!

Orlando attorney Cheney Mason began a news conference after Casey Anthony’s acquittal on murder and other charges against her stemming from the 2008 disappearance and death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee.

“Well, I hope that this is a lesson,” Mason began, “to those of you having indulged in media assassination for three years.”

Mason went on to say the events outside the courtroom were filled with “bias and prejudice and incompetent talking heads.”

He said he is “disgusted” by seeing lawyers “getting on television and talking about cases that they don’t know a damn thing about.”

He concluded his remarks on a positive note. “We appreciate the jury and those of you who have been objective and professional; we like it.”

Mason did, however, point out that those who didn’t meet that standard, “We’re going to be talking to again.”

My Grandson is visiting & has hogged the computer tonight! LOL-with full permission from Grandma of course!

Have just been able to read a few comments from other websights who were mean to me when I tried to give opinions before. Boy oh boy are they outraged. They just don’t get how she could be found not guilty when there was “all that EVIDENCE!”.

They blame the jury and even went so far as to say “that alternate juror “influenced the jury and “that’s why they found hier not guilty!”

They say our system is broken. They say “they have lived with this for 3 years” and now won’t listen to anyone else’s opinion because they “need to heal”.

OMG! Idiots have listened to bleached blond who failed as a prosecutor for three years and have been brainwashed!

“Also Please tell Casey that there are still some people who really do believe in the due process of law and want to see her get a fair trial or to see her cleared of this murder charge. We are not many, but we are here!”

I just love you gals and guys. Been over getting bashed and holding my own,,,, LOL thanks for the jump in helping out thing Kmiller LOL.

It really is nice here. I honestly believe it would still be as civil, just not as relieved ( 😉 ) as we are now. Wow dont some people realize there are cyber bullying laws now? STUPID WITH CAP LETTERS LOL

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LOL I got my feathers ruffled tonite cause this couple dumb asses (sorry) started calling me names. Then had the nerve to say I quote un quote ” changed my tune when he came on” well I went at it, I told him I havent changed my tune since I came aboard during jury selection! well about 2 hrs later he half ass apologized it was someone “with a name like mine”. I called Kmiller laughing I was so mad… Funny thing was a BUNCH of people came to my defense.. whew now I am too wired to sleep ….

CTV news channel – Canadian legal analyst – no evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt – lies and a tattoo – junk legal analysis – people like NG who prosecute a case on t.v. – something needs to be done

Cnn 360 last night – Geragos called NG the bleach blond prosecutor. lol Disgusted with t.v. lawyers who’ve never tried a murder case putting things out as fact to the public.

A feel good story: A dog ran away and got right accross Canada from Quebec to B.C. He was identified and sent back home. Say he may have rode the rails.

Something I found funny. I only caught the end so am not clear on the country. It was middle eastern. Government – a lady throwing her shoe accross the room and then people beating each other over the head with water bottles. I pictured members of parliament attacking each other with their water bottles, shoes flying. Really funny – had to have seen it

HollysGmom
———————————- nice to meet you ….one thing, I dont suspect JP would mind…. but ….. it’s MISSIONITES …. NOT Missionettes…. we have BOTH MALE AND FEMALE Missionites… and congrats on Holly getting a sibling!!! 🙂

Related story: PBS Frontline had a segment last night “The Child Cases”.
Discusses Bad CoD Determinations by Medical Examiners. Cosy relationships between MEs and Police. Amazingly there are no required certifications for MEs. People sitting on Death row due to bad CoD rulings.

Was that a smile or a grimace on Cindy in court yesterday. It was briefly on camera – I thought it a smile and then someone thought it was a grimace. If it was a grimace I hope they both slept like hell.

Trex,
Danielle,
I disagree. I actually say that facial expression on CA as a smile. I know that GA is having nightmares and knows that the world is closing in on him. Last night Sean Hannity was on him. I think JB did a masterful job, bec he set up GA and now he’s there for responsible investigators to go look and find out what did happen here. That is not the job of the DT.

The only people so far that I have heard that have been responsible in reporting the verdict and to the jury are;
Geraldo Rivera
Sean Hannity
Mark Levin

I’m sure there are others, but that’s all that I have heard. Anyone heard others?

Everyone else is not only stunned, but they keep rambling on and on about how much evidence, and that today jurors want to see DNA and if it is not there, then they acquit / geez. Were they watching the same trial we were?

Danielle! I’m so glad you are back. I’ve had those moments too. Totally get it. Glad you are still managing to not smoke. Thanks for the CTV info. I was trying to watch for any Canadian coverage, hoping it would be somewhat logical and couldn’t find anything.

I found the lynch mob so freaking depressing. I’m happy as can be Casey got justice but what a state this world is in. Did someone mention that there will be appeals for the guilty verdicts or did I dream that one?

So I see JA is making all the talk show rounds in NYC. Very interesting. I heard Matt (Today Show) say that JA had put off his retirement until after this case was over. Do you think he is making any money from these rounds with the media?

The other night I was looking at something that HGM had posted (pictures via photobucket) and while scrolling thru them there was a court doc that I thought was very interesting. It has to do with JA and a hand written addendum by KC. I will search for it and post. It spoke volumes (to me) as to how JA was trying to break KC and make her take a plea deal.

blam,
You’re probably right about Cindy’s “smile” at the verdict. I can’t figure her out. I’m still predicting GA walks out of the house with a big suit case soon. I hope he quickly blows all his interview fees on gambling and hookers.

keeping an open mind- Isnt it ironic that all of the people who accused the A’s, JB, Casey, etc. of trying to make money in the media are the only ones making media rounds during which they are STILL making those same accusations?

Wow- Im amazed this morning at all the TH’s pointing the finger at anyone they can in an attempt at self-preservation. It is very obvious to me that the TH’s are very afraid of CM’s statements and promise to “be talking to them very soon”, as they should be.

If you havent read one of my NG rants I have posted here many times, let me just be perfectly clear, I consider NG to be one of the most disguisting excuses for a human being to have ever been allowed to publicly instigate hate, fabricate and lie, and manipulate the public. Her constant accusations of greed are the best part of her side show. Especially since she is the worst offender of proffiting off of Caylee’s death. So, with that said, waking up to NG this morning whining about the scrutiny she is now under gives me a joy beyond words.

Friends,
I just finished sending off a long email to Gretchen at Fox and Friends decrying their irresponsible reporting of the verdict thismoring. I will let you all know if I get any response, which I doubt, but I will keep you informed.
/blam

Keeping an open Mind @ 9:11am,
I did see that about a week ago. I think she knew she had to go through this and she was not about to sign a plea deal. That takes a lot of courage, esp if you are facing the death penalty. Geez.

Misty – I think the OCSO has put themselves in a difficult situation. KC, their one and only suspect, will soon walk free. They (OCSO) failed to do a proper investigation initially and have probably closed the case. In other words, Caylee’s death is no longer being investigated. What do they do? If they reopen the case, their main suspect would have to be their buddy and fellow cop GA. Much of what LE believed was based on his statements. OCSO would look even more foolish if their “star” turned out to be the culprit.

The second choice would be to just lay low, ignore it and wait for all of it to just go away. If they try to blame it on the state, that will cause a lot of friction in future cases. MOO

you are right…I do hope Casey makes enough monies from her telling of her story one day so that she can get through life because she has no family. She never did, sadly. UGGHH. She is certainly one of the most hated women in this country and has no chance of ever doing normal things like go to school, get a good job, etc….I feel for her. I commend her attorneys for stepping up and plan to help her grieve, heal, and find a way and place to reintegrate into society.

Yellow Dog,
I think the OCSO is in a pickle as well. They listened to Ga up front and didn’t do their job. Now, they can’t go after him, but the PT team sure put the arrow in GA”s back or headed in his direction when JA said 2 things:

1. we concede that it is the same duct; the duct tape came from the antohny’s house.
and
2. there were only two people who could have had access to all this and that was GA or the defendant and then he proceeds to go on and try to memorialize GA.

Problem is, the jury didn’t buy it and exonerated KC. So now, all eyes are pointed to GA. If the OCSO doesn’t do something, which I agree they won’t and can’t, then watch: some responsible journalist is going after it. and maybe not just one…….. several and all competing for that story.

That’s why I said this moring: how do you thin k GA slept last night 🙂

I did think that was strange, all the hiring and firing of attorneys…I mean I guess they just kept blowing through them until they found one that agreed with them and was willing to support them no matter how..whatever..they really were and are. I even heard GA had his workers comp attorney come to their house the night of July 15th, 2008. Why?

Do you guys think this really was a drowning? I think the abduction which Casey first put out there is more logical. Still think George is scum and not sure of his involvement. I think there was some truth in what she said at the beginning. Watching her with Caylee I can’t wrap my head around her not calling 911 because George told her not to. The way she acted afterwards looked to me like fear. To me it was just like an addict who blocks stuff out with drugs or alcohol.

I hope she writes a book. I don’t buy books – I either wait until someone is done reading one or it’s the library but I’d buy her book. Hopefully the creeps out there will buy it out of curiosity. She not only needs to tell her story but I can’t see anyone hiring her and she needs to live.

Blam, likely HLN. I watched programs on cnn last night too though. Google it I bet something will come up. If t.v. covered it must have hit some newspaper. If you get a hold of an article pls post the link.

It was either a drowning and GA was worried about what would be found out during an autopsy.

Caylee was harmed by someone GA or Casey owed money to.

Caylee died during a chloroform accident with GA. He was drugging her so he could do stuff. This is the same thing that happened with Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo. They drugged her sister so Paul could have sex with her and she accidentally died. They passed if off as an accident until they were caught later and her death was looked into.

I was worried about you…lol..I really was..the first thing I though after the verdict was read..was OMG..Yellow, I hope his wife and fam doesn’t take this verdict they probably are livid over, out on him! …lol..I guess as time rolls on though, peace will eventually come over your household

OH yes blam- I saw her live this morning on morning express and also on the special last night- the link is posted here around 1:30am today. Sorry- I will go back and see if I can find it.

I cant recall who posted that link, maybe HollysGmom? It was the special last night, I think it was 48 hours. NG was asked by the reporter if she felt it was wrong the way she portrayed “tot mom” all this time. She gives a really self-indulgent lie of a speech that Im sure appealed to all her zombie followers, but I only saw it as a peek inside her defense strategy when she gets sued. I will tell you this, if thats the best she’s got shes in deep S**t!!

My favorite part is when she said JA retired cause he is sickened with grief over this unjust verdict. She says(paraphrasing) the day she cant freely discuss a trial and her beliefs about it
is the day she retires too!!! LOL!!! So while she and JA are there in Florida they make the most of a wasted trip and start shopping for that very special retirement community condo of their dreams!! LOL!!

oh guys ur sweet, thanks it is not just posts here, it is just everyone anymore, could be just an emotional week for me and i am looking way harder in the wrong direction and taking everything the wrong way, i am sure everyone can understands how that is when ur having a bad week, grrrrrrrr

Misty – Thanks for thinking of me. My wife is not taking it well at all. She did not talk to me all day yesterday after the verdict. She left for a couple hours last night, then came home and went to bed. This morning she got up, went for a long walk, came home, showered and is back in bed now. She is very depressed about the verdict.

Our daughter had to work yesterday after the verdict but called me later. She is taking it well. I was working in the front yard last evening when when my neighbor came home. As she was walking in the house she just turned to me and said “don’t you dare even say anything” and slammed the door.

What I don’t get is I have not said anything to any of them about the trial in about a month. It’s not like I have been annoying them about it. They knew that I was not convinced KC was guilty, but never really got into a discussion with me about it. Very frustrating to say the least.

well, reading all posts since i have been here, i see most of yall know each other. phone calls ect. and thats ok for you guys. i am now thinking i should not have mentioned anything about the family bbeing murdered so very close to where i live. i have very good reason to not be very trusting of anyone. sorry i mentioned anything about it. i will keep trying to get to the bottom of what happened.

Sam, Karla Homolka is out of jail in Montreal. I think she’s been out for a year. Did you catch the police interview with Bernardo on t.v.?

Karla was the one who drugged her sister with meds from the vet she worked for. I think her sister was a gift for PB.

For those of you who don’t know about that case it was huge here. They had 2 girls in their house and Karla videotaped everything Paul Bernardo did to her and they were murdered. She drugged her sister at her parent’s home and she died. Karla got 10 years for turning in the tape.

Sam, I’m in Ontario (Mississauga) before the girls were kidnapped there were posters up with a sketch of PB at GO stations – he was raping women in Scarborough. I’m thinking that was at least a month before they began looking for the girls.

blam- so what do you think? She had the nerve to claim she has been accurate in discussing evidence, and blamed the jury. WOW

I think its so funny how everyone is going on and on about CA’s impeachment about the computer searches, bu teveryone seem to have just forgotten how YM misspoke about the telephone records, denied knowing GA had more than one phone, and failed to directly answer any questions concerning this “investigation” he was the lead det. on. and thats just the start.

No one is talking about Dr. G’s Shoddy autopsy, and the fact that she wouldnt even show back for rebuttal. How she sent an anthropologist with no knowlege of the autopsy to explain away her failure.

No one is talking about the 3 FBI agents who showed back up with attys in tow to admit that the computer search report was fabricated and was intentionally presented to the jury as a key piece of evidence to show PREMEDITATION, thus a disguisting attempt to knowing KILL Casey unjustly.

No one is talking about Dr. Vaas lies and attempts to present the jury with evidence of chloroform without even testing or showing the test results for the amounts present. That was all an obvious attempt to mislead the jury.

No one talks about the fact that a volunteer for the TES was threatened by LE and pressured into lieing on the stand about the areas searched by him and his team. When confronted with questions of these threats he plead the 5th and his Atty wisp him away immediately for counciling.

KMiller, I didn’t know that the TES volunteer had been threatened. I caught the part where he pled the 5th though. Wad he the guy who was at the same spot Caylee was found and didn’t see anything? I missed bits and pieces. I work at home and sometimes have to run and take care of something.

I belong to a forum where the members are really good people. After I watched Dr. Spitz’s testimony I posted there about it. I went there & posted that he was amazing and how I’d been glued to the t.v. Well, I hadn’t read the previous posts before I posted. Everyone had been laughing at him. They’re great there and we’ve posted together for years but I’m not the same page when it comes to Casey. I’m impressed with this guy’s qualifications. He might be eccentric but he wrote the book on autopsy.

kmiller – You are exactly right. There are many people on the state’s side who need a very close looking at. Our only hope is, that now that the verdict is in, the investigative REPORTERS will pick up the ball that the state (and OCSO, et al) dropped and will now run with it. Look at it this way – this case has been very good for the media. Now the story is over, so what do they do? Hopefully they want the story to continue which means they need new information. I bet there are reporters around the country digging in GA’s past as much as they can in an effort to keep the story in the headlines. MOO

LOL! HLN is speculating (along with their “groupies”) about how much money Casey is going to be able to make from books, TV interviews, etc. Oh, they say, this is just so wrong that she will benefit from her murder of her child! ETC, ETC, ETC.

It would be a hoot (and wouldn’t surprise me) if Casey refuses to do any interviews because of the way the media “convicted” her. Want to hear a bunch of winey people if she doesn’t? I can hear it now “why doesn’t she tell us her version of what happened?”, “we have a right to an explanation – I mean, I spent 3 YEARS following this case and she gets off and doesn’t speak???”

Yellow- I hope you’re right. Im sure many are rightly afraid to bad mouth FL officials since they will obviously stop at nothing to save their own A**es. Thats why Im so glad CM is part of all this, I think he is just the guy with enough courage and allies to give them a run for their money.

Noni……….Casey said it best in her jailhouse visit. “The media is twisting everything. Too bad. Sucks for them!” Remember?? I don’t think she will ever talk to media after she has been skewered like she was.

Misty – I forgot to mention that my wife has not turned on a TV or radio since the verdict which is very unusual. From reading posts in those ‘other” forums, a lot of people are having a real problem dealing with this. When OJ was found not guilty, I was mad for an hour or so, but then it went away. I have been reading about people who became so ill yesterday they had to leave work and go home.

There is something about this whole case that has really messed people up. Any ideas? I think it is the mother/child aspect, but there have been other cases that are hardly a blip on the radar. Why?

danielle- Glad to see you today. Funny with your mood fluctuations while quitting smoking! LOL!!

I am a smoker, and have attempted quitting sssooooo many times. I usually start back after I have a near homicidal episode that makes me think maybe smoking is the better choice right now. (kidding) But I do know the crazy changes withdrawls can cause.

I thought about you yesturday when the jury was about to come back with a verdict I had to run out side (dont smoke inside) and grab a cig. because my nerves were shot! I thought to myself, “if danielle can make it through today without smoking, she is definately going to be sucessful” I hope you continue to stay strong- Im proud of you!!

Yellow- I noticed too that those who truly felt casey was guilty are seeming to mourn. I guess we all seem so insensitive because we are not sad. the only way I can explain this is I think those of us who believe Casey is innocent mourned long ago when we realized her true killer was still free.
We rejoice now with the restored hope that who ever is responsible, will pay some day.

I guarantee he set up all these interviews a month ago in his Pompous Arrogance. Thinking this would be his Victory Tour. Well, Fat Asst, you only forgot one thing. To have a Victory Tour, you actually have to have a Victory first. God knows you tried — you lied, cheated and stole. Oh well, good luck in the new career charging for autographs. Will you be signing replicas of the Asston “Fart Canisters”?

In related news, JVM still trying to whip up public anger at the Juror’s Mistake. She will not stop Until She Incites A Riot.

I know…I just don’t get it either…how can someone that has no personal ties to this, I mean it is not their child, not their family..allow themselves to be so attached to this as if it were their loss? it really does scare the daylights out of me that this is my society!! crazy stuff!!

Kmiller,
Thanks for posting the link. She is amazing. “kooky jury”…….. she did back pedal and point the finger at the DT for having their celebration party. And that her work is about solving homicides. If that was so, it would be okay, but she sensationalizes things. I would hope that someone would report how much money she has made these 3 years re this.

I think those on those “other” forums..became like a pool of blood hungry sharks..swimming in circle formation with only Casey’s blood to quench their thirst…why? why would someones heart be like that? blood hungry, vengeance and hate filled?

Kmiller,
@ 11:29am,
Re your post and the Dr. G part. It’s not, in my mind, that she sent the ahtropologist to the stand, no. It’s that the state called him to the stand. He was the guy who made the video, right? so the state calls him bk.

What a stupid move on the part of the state. they have stupid move after stupidmove, but they are being paraded today as if they were the geniuses in this trial. They were outmaneuvered by the DT. The state w/ all the money and resources got “outmaneuvered.” They were so cocky…. their arrogance beat them.

then, when things start to turn and they realize that the clown atty isnot such an easy opponent, they concoct a phony report. And when did they do that report………. in early June 2011. That’s what JB said in his closing argument.

That to me is the thing that I don’t hear anyone talking about. If you were not KC and you were in that position, how could you fight against something like that. How many times does the state resort to that? Yet, it’s blown over like nothing. Not mentioned now.

Kmiller,
Right. His Pompous Bufoonery played as much a role in losing the case as lying detectives , fabricated evidence, and no evidence. LDB must be thinking unhappy thoughts about his Fat Asst today. 😉

Sorry, to hear some folks are having problems with family/friends over the verdict. It sounds like they are mad at you because they think you condone letting a murderer go free. But the fact is, most of us here believe it was an accidental death. So of course, the accused should go free. My 2 cents.

those tihngs, these folks can’t grasp. Put the 2nd two in the same sentence w/ a mother and there is no logic anymore. No explanation.

Did anyone hear JVM last night as she signed off. That peoplle are just not logical. The jurors said there in front of her for 6 weeks and they watched her and this and that, and in the end they made up their mind w/out being logical.

Did anyone hear that drivel? 2 nurses and an IT guy are not logical? Give me a break. And the foreman is a man who has no children. Maybe that is why they voted fo rhim to be the foreperson. To eliminate emotion.
Maybe the first thing they did is ask one question:

Put your answer on this paper, fold it and pass it forward and we will see where we stand. Here is the qustion: “Do you feel that the state proved beyond all reasonable doubt that KC murdered Caylee?” Yes or no.

they pass them forward and when he counts them out, they are very close from the beginning. What I just wrote is not fact/ I have not heard that, but if that did happen, is that illogical?

and if that first vote was 10 to 2 not guilty or 9 to 3, wouldn’t you have the minority express why they felt the way they did and see if their arguemts could be disproven.

These pundits are sickening. right now my TV is off. And another thing: it’s the social media. People get their news this way andnot by watching the entire trial, as we did. How distorted coud that be ………… to reduce this great testimony of Dr. Spitz to 140 charaters or w/ever.

Trex @ 12:23pm,
EXACTLY! His pompousness, his arrogance……….. in the end the jury saw through that. If you were so confident in your case, you would not need to act like that. I am sure that LDB is feeling it today……….. really, who was the top dog there? It was supposed to be her, right? but she sure couldn’t reign him in, from the beginning.

Trex @ 12:25pm,
What most people, including my friend of 25 years, can’t get over (besides the duct tape and the 31 days) is: why would her own father not call 911. Why would he help dispose of the body?

No matter what I try to tell her there, she just can’t accept it?
when I try o explain the alternatives for Ga, she feels that KC is a liar, manipulative and putting the gult on someone else. and that’s as far as we get.

theonly other sentence is: “well, if we were on that jury, it would be a hung jury bec neither one of us would change our mind.”

I think that is fitting. People are angry. They don’t know why. They need somewhere to put that anger. Nancy Disgrace, JVM, Vinnie Politan….they all give them a place. They would find her guilty because of that emotion and not based on fact.

ZG can just hang it up- I hope that un less Casey pin pointed her or singled her out personally, she doesnt have a case. ZG is a popular Hispanic name just like Jane smith. Its too bad if she is really in no way involved that she had this bad experience, but there are alot of innocent people who had their name dragged through the mud durring this past 3 years. So who do they sue? And even worse these people were pointed directly to and accused. Does she think she rates money just because she was questioned about a kidnapping. I just cant see that this would have any basis, God forbid victims be afraid to give names of people they suspect to be involved in the crimes committed against them.

blam, @ 12:48 pm
Here’s what I would say to your friend. She is absolutely right. We don’t know why no one called 911 after the drowning. The reason is simple. The cops ignored pleas from Cindy that the pool ladder was up and Caylee may have drown. Cindy told cops that multiple times. Instead cops went on a vendetta to frame KC for Murder 1 — with no farking evidence whatsoever.

Trex @ 1:44pm,
tks…. I’ll try. Last night I got the Levin audio from HGM and sent it to her via FB thismorning. We havenot spoken in 3 weeks. Her response ot the Levin clip (and she really likes Levin) is that the 31 days shows her consciousness of guilt. I replied and said guilt of what?

Regarding, my post about the Frontline “The Child Cases” video. @ July 6, 2011 at 8:11 am
The show talks about how cases that involve child deaths really inspire deep emotions (some times irrational anger and frustration) from everyone involved. That probably has a lot to do with the difficulty people are having rationalizing the verdict.

In related news, JVM was saying a few mins ago on HLN, “Please don’t try to take revenge for this verdict. Let’s all remain calm. “. I’ll bet the Orlando Chief of Police told her to cut the crap and stop stirring up the lynch mob.

Without offending anyone …. I need to say … I find both Levin and Hannity disgraceful —perhaps they “got it right” on this issue..but…typically they “make up” and twist information — Hannity more so … and again, no offense …but …trust me…I know of what I speak …AND NEITHER ARE JOURNALISTS … just opinionators… Because so many on cable have been skewed on this …I won’t take crumbs… JMO (((( )))) TO ALL ….

I don’t understand how ZG has a case in civil court…but my question is, in civil cases do they have the sorts of a grand jury with indictments? Couldn’t this be thrown out before it gets to civil court in some fashion? I just do not think this woman deserves any money whatsoever and isn’t that all she can get in a civil trial?

Hazaka and Trex,
JVM was definitely stirring up people yesterday afternoon outi n front of the courthouse. I hope CM gets all who are involved in this type of crap.

hazaka,
I can accept your comment re Hannity and Levin, no problem, but as far as we are concerned they sure got this one right. and last night on Hannity he was definitely looking squarely at GA. and I was glad to see it.

Ljay and others re ZG,
I think she is a very folish woman. While I am sure she did have a difficult time bec of her name, etc., she is not the only woman w/ that name in Fl. and did she not see the drubbing the state attys just got. I guess she thinks her atty is far superior and will defeat KC’s attys. They are going to protect her for a while, at least……….. and ZG needs to stop.

If KC had picked another name, would all the people in the state w/ that same name get to sue her? It’s about money.

Such a relieve: no dp.
So there is Justice in this jury system ( a system I had my doubts about.)
Of course leaving a child, Caylee, dead in the woods is horrible, but it is not murder.
JB you have done a very good job covering this case and you stood for Justice.
ps It is rediculous people were afraid to comment on this case.
See you around 🙂

Ina
July 6, 2011 at 2:15 pm
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Have missed you …. saw you on BS’s blog… seems kind of shut down tho’ 🙂 …… and “asked” about you on this wonderful place a few weeks ago….. missed your comments and question….. be well!

Hazaka- i think I get what you are saying. I feel the same way, but not just toward Hannity and Levin, but all the media TH’s who have been spatting BS about this all along. Now that JB proved to be very much competent and Casey proven innocent some of them want to pretend that they suddenly “see the light”. They need to just admit they were wrong, and then if they want to change their reporting habits, ok, no problem, but the only reason they are “getting it right” now is to save face. Why didn’t they all “get it right” before the verdict? It just proves that they have all been aware of this evidence the same as we have, and they chose to run with the masses to remain popular. Thanks, but no thanks. Just a matter of time before they pounce on a new victim.

BREAKING! Jeff Ashton just announced plans for a speaking tour to select cities. The 2011 Jeff Ashton: Pig in a Jacket Tour.

Jeff’s PR team toyed with an alternate tour name, “Violent Torpedo of Lies Tour. Defeat Definitely An Option. Tour” But ultimately chose the final ‘Pig’ moniker because it best reflected Jeffery’s values.

Rumors are circulating that he will announce that he and Roy Kronk have become man-lovers. I knew it — I saw the eye contact on the witness stand dammit.

I just heard that Texas Equisearch is going to sue Casey too…..I’m not sure on what grounds, so Can’t say if they possibly have a case..but I guess be prepared for a lot of lawsuits now by people that do not want Casey to get on with her life and want some money out of her.

Is anyone online that knows when Texas Equisearch did their searches? Tim Miller was just on HLN and says he is suing either the Anthonys, KC, JB to recoup the $100K that he spent on the search. he did not know til June 16 that KC had died in a drowning (which is the defense theory), but he said they were the strangest family he has ever encountered.

He does not believe that dominic Casey was thre bec of a psychic. (I think we all can agree on that).

Does anyone know the dates? He is saying that he now believes they knew at that time that she was dead. So JVM says well that’s a conspiracy that they all knew. It’s getting hot out there folks, the heat is getting turned up.

Texas Equsearch, if the lawsuit info is true, should tread lightly, especially considering there was obviously a scandel of some sort going on during their search.

Plus if they are sueing, and they are according to the Defense theory that Caylee drown, etc. They may want to say that Casey allowed them to search knowing Caylee was already dead.

I think this suit would also get tossed because the defense can suggest any theory they would like. They could say she rode off on the back of an Elephant if they wanted to. The fact is Casey never testified to it, and it has not been proven true in a court of law, and will most likely not be unless GA is charged, and he will deny it.

An aunt of Casey was on phone with NG, family coming out of the woodwork to grab their share of dollars to be had. On some blogs is it shocking how some don’t give a damn about how the justice system works, they wanted/want Casey dead. Hard to believe they will not consider the whole case, all are just are so angry that Casey was determined “Not Guilty”!

Ljay what reason will Texas Equisearch give to sue Casey? Tim Miller already gave interviews
and I assumed he was paid. Seems likely a lot of family and people apparently believe it is ok to go after the money because Casey did not go to her death, and they probably will say they are doing it as “justice for Caylee.”

Comment,
I missed his reasoning for wanting to sue. Maybe somebody else heard??
On what else you said, I logged into Facebook yesterday and was astounded to find so many of my friends wanting Casey’s blood, her to have a hysterectomy, etc. (For one thing, I live many, many states away and was unaware anyone I knew was following this case, besides me) I find this disturbing bc so many people want to do to her what they accuse her of doing. How are they any better?

KMiller, She could move to a different state, change her name, change her hair and live a quiet, happy life….The way every one is acting that want her blood, I wouldn’t blame her if she did just that. But I do think for her safety, she should leave Florida. Or at least Orlando.

Kmiller,
I guess we would have to file a class action law suit then, bec my house is a mess too as a result of this.

do you know the dates of Tim Miller’s search(es)…
I do think that explains something here, but I am going out on a limb. He just said that the police wanted them to concentrate on that area, the woods.

Well, can we Missionites, assume that by the time of this search both GA and CA knew that Ga had disposed of the body and it had gotten lost…….. They needed a 3rd party to come and find it. But little did they know that RK had already found the body and had actually moved it so he could claim that reward when it went up / more value?

Is that what was going on here?

Also, KMiller,
you are 100% right. The defense put forth a theory. They put a “face” on this murder, the PT did not. And they did not disprove drowning bec they didn’t do the test on the diatomes. I think they purposely did not want to do that test, bec if it had come bk positive, they would know it was a dorwning and they did not want that. That is why they omitted doing that test. And you are right, she didn’t testify. So the drowning is a theory and a very plausible one tht the state could not disprove.

I would think TMiller could sue CA or CA and GA, depending on who called and what paperwork was signed by whom, but I don’t think KC called and she didn’t sign it.

As you know here my son is in jail and was on community control. When he was violated for not being home and had to go to the judge to tell him. This didn’t happen immediately and he would hae to wait. when he explained to the judge and he was reinstated, you don’t walk out the front door of the courthouse. She will be processed and out the back door. I am sure the public will be there so much that they will have to have a way to get her out of there. Probably another exit. For sure.

and tomorrow the people in front of her home are going to be crazy I imagine, thinking that she is going to go there.

Addie,
He said they wre called. That they don’t push themselves on anyone. I wonder if anyone signed any papers.

Did anyone notice how Jane Weintraub tried to tell him that he did not have a lawsuit against KC bec she did not call you. They cut to commercial and when they came bk, they never spoke again to either TM or JW. So one sides.

I think your most likely correct about that Addie, they are a volunteer group, how could they sue? like I am sure the searchers that volunteered cannot sue for anything arising from them searching during a project, so how can TES sue anyone? of coarse that nasty looking thing Mark Nejame, the Anthony’s previous brief one time attorney represents TES..who knows when the circus of this will all end…

There is a recording on youtube. Im sure most of us have heard it. Anyway Cindy is leaving Tim miller a message on his phone. She is pi**ed that he told media that he was most likely looking for a dead Caylee. I think she was basically saying the he should not have said that when the family had hopes that she was still alive and did not want the public to assume her dead and not be keeping an eye out for her. I think CA and GA could use that as proof that they did not know she was dead. Weather they did or not Im still not decided as far as theory goes.

Hi all. I was astonished at NG lying in the video linked, saying these jurors didn’t care enough to take notes. She is lying according to every other reporter that said, not only were most jurors taking a lot of notes, but also some needed a 2nd tablet. Grrr. I shouldn’t be surprised though.

Just like Casey deserved her day in court, so does George and Cindy. We can’t know at this point if it is true. I’ve said I can see signs that this is a real possibility, but that is only to be used as an indication that it needs to be looked into further, IMO. I saw more indication that it would likely have begun at 9 rather than 8 but memories get foggy, if true. This is especially true of repressed memories. We also can perceive things as real that didn’t actually happen. A dream can be perceived as real. I witnesses my brother remembering something that happened to him that really happened to our sister. He owned the experience as his own through transference and deep empathy. He felt her pain and it became his own.

I remember reading that Cindy had accepted Equisearch to look for a LIVE Caylee, Tim Miller did not do that so it will surprise me if he has a claim. I think if Tim Miller wants to sue someone it should be Leonard Padilla. Well, someone should sue LP. My house is a mess too, lol

How about a class action suit against HLN? We can all claim Nancy, JVM, DR.D, and VinnieP. made us sick. Nancy’s venom caused side effects of illness like, boiling blood, busted remotes, inexplicable damage to our tv’s, brain rotting to brain dust, uncontrollable vomitting, turrett’s like vulgarism’s uncontrollably emitting from our voiceboxes, carpel tunnel of the thumb from repeatedly hitting the mute button, permanent hearing loss due to listening to the vile hate generating lies of a shameless shrew, when the mute button failed. We are suffering from TH syndrome.

Wait, I have a more realistic idea, since most of us really do just turn them off. Let’s have a class action suit against HLN, claiming that our friends and neighbors have been driven insane by this drivel. And we can prove it since people from all over the world are in front of the OC courthouse right now getting fired up by JVM, Vinnie P, and Nancy as I type, and those people are acting insane. We can use HLN footage to prove our case. What do you say??? LOLOL

Zuben, Padilla did insist Casey left after the fight w Cindy on June 15 2008. Was this when Caylee drowned and that was why Cindy strangled Casey? What about the cell pings? Could she have left without her cell phone & her purse? Is that why it turned up at Amscott? I’ve always been somewhat suspicious of the Anthony home calling Casey’s cell to check messages. If she had her cell why would she use the house phone to check them? Was Casey yelling at her mom about someone impersonating her because George had started playing her online? Did he post that fusion picture? Was it George chatting online? #confusion

This call wasn’t the home phone calling Casey’s cell. Casey’s cell accessed her voicemail, using the ATT backdoor number. It was a messaged left from the home phone. I was just assuming the call came the day before and she was just making sure it was a call she already knew about because the only call on the home phone record I see coming to her before the morning of the 16th is 3:35pm the day before.

Misty,
I was just watching a You Tube video of TM, and he said that after 4 dayshe wanted to pull out of there. CA said you tricked me. You came looking for a live Caylee, and now you are searching for a dead C. The sheriff’ asked him to stay on and donated $5K to help w/ the search. he said something interesting…….. that the area there (Area A, though he didn’t call it Area A was under so much water at the time that a volunteer ruined one of their 4x4s by running it into water that was so deep). Hmmmmm, so it is after Faye.
That means, RK has already been there and found that body and moved it…….. that’s my thought.

bloggers on other sites are yakin it up with glee that they have heard the potential caylees father that died, that woman from up north has hired a lawyer to try and pursue identifying if he was actually caylees father, if so, plans to issue a wrongful death suit against Casey.

KMiller,
Oh, didn’t see your post. tks. He was def pretty angry huh? Did you notice his eyes move to his left at the end, as if someone was there and he was trying to get their approval as to whether he had done well or not.

KMiller,
I think we touched on that one night a while back re the dad. He made a strange statement in that interview of his where he said he called GA and said, “Look I’m going to call some friends of mine who can get to the bottom of this, but first, I want to know what might be turned up, bec I need to know why you are not acting like an ex cop.” (paraphrase) Remember that/ Well, that sures sounds strange for a minister, huh?

Well, I just listened to Jesse Grund, he made me sick!!!!!! Just couldn’t wait to get his cut, talk about blood money over Caylee’s death. He tried to use big words and sound so intelligent but as far as I am concerned he is and has been a part of Casey’s problem from the get go. How dare he tell Casey to repent when God himself guided the verdict of the jury. Jesse has jumped on the wagon with the haters and still wants to be one of the important people in Casey’s life pretending to have helped her. The guard? Money, money, money! Of course their view point is “well, why the hell not” we were not able to put Casey to death. People like this have and had
absolutely no respect for Caylee, like they claim. Just the old human greed, out for what I can get for themself. Not one saw Casey murder her child, not one! No evidence as to cause of death, yet they are willing to participate in the planned murder of Casey. Planned by wanting the jury to find her guilty. Of course they would feel they did not do it. I bet not one of these kind would actually give Casey the injection, they are the kind that always want to mouth off and have someone else do it. Obviously Caylee’s spirit watched over Casey yet people like Jesse can’t
appreciate that possibility. He says Casey should repent? We all have issues, including him,
for which to repent, but I need to start with myself before laying repent on someone else.
Forgive me!

i still have my doubts about one fact i can’t settle in my mind, jessie grund said he heard on a phone call with Casey where he heard Caylee in the back ground on June 24th… then never heard Caylee again after that… isn’t that around the time the gas cans calls start from GA to the police? i wonder if this happened on June 24/25 and not on June 15/16th… any thoughts on those dates?

WhaT HE is talking about it the online lynch mob who would harrass & threaten ANYONE who started poking around the Grunds, wither Father or Son. Some would even get an email if their names was just mentioned.