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Despite Trump's 'fire And Fury,' US North Korea Talks Have 'not Been Limited At All'

Though President Donald Trump has said his secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, is "wasting his time" by trying diplomacy with North Korea, the State Department has pressed on.

The US and North Korea are having quiet talks despite Trump's threats, a senior department official told Reuters.

But the talks aren't making great progress, and Tillerson has said he will continue "diplomatic efforts ... until the first bomb drops."

Rex Tillerson, the US secretary of state.Thomson ReutersWASHINGTON — The United States is quietly pursuing direct diplomacy with North Korea, a senior State Department official said on Tuesday, despite US President Donald Trump's public assertion that such talks are a waste of time.

Using the so-called New York channel, Joseph Yun, the US's negotiator with North Korea, has been in contact with diplomats at Pyongyang's United Nations mission, the official said, at a time when an exchange of bellicose insults between Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has fueled fears of military conflict.

While US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson on October 17 said he would continue "diplomatic efforts ... until the first bomb drops," the official's comments were the clearest sign the United States was directly discussing issues beyond the release of American prisoners, despite Trump having dismissed direct talks as pointless.

There is no sign, however, that the behind-the-scenes communications have improved a relationship vexed by North Korea's nuclear and missile tests, the death of the US university student Otto Warmbier days after his release by Pyongyang in June, and the detention of three other Americans.

Word of quiet engagement with Pyongyang comes despite Trump's comments, North Korea's weapons advances, and suggestions by some US and South Korean officials that Yun's interactions with North Koreans had been reined in.

"It has not been limited at all, both in frequency and substance," said the senior State Department official.

Among the points that Yun has made to his North Korean interlocutors is to "stop testing" nuclear bombs and missiles, the official said.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, center.Thomson Reuters

North Korea this year conducted its sixth and most powerful nuclear detonation and has test-fired a volley of missiles, including intercontinental ballistic missiles that, if perfected, could in theory reach the United States mainland.

The possibility that Pyongyang may be closer to attaching a nuclear warhead to an ICBM has alarmed the Trump administration, which in April unveiled a policy of "maximum pressure and engagement" that has so far failed to deter North Korea.

At the start of Trump's presidency, Yun's instructions were limited to seeking the release of US prisoners.

"It is [now] a broader mandate than that," said the State Department official, declining, however, to address whether authority had been given to discuss North Korea's nuclear and missile program.

In Beijing, a Foreign Ministry spokeswoman, Hua Chunying, said China welcomed any dialogue between the United States and North Korea.

"We encourage North Korea and the United States to carry out engagement and dialogue," Hua told reporters, adding that she hoped talks could help return the issue to a diplomatic track for resolution.

Sanctions and engagement

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe speaks at NATO's headquaters with the alliance's chief, Jens Stoltenberg, in July.Thomson ReutersNATO chief Jens Stoltenberg has urged all United Nations members to fully and transparently implement sanctions against North Korea, which he said has emerged as a global threat.

Speaking at the United Nations on September 19, Trump vowed to "totally destroy" North Korea if it threatened the United States or its allies, raising anxieties about the possibility of military conflict.

Twelve days later, after Tillerson said Washington was probing for a diplomatic opening, Trump said on Twitter that his chief diplomat was "wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man," his mocking nickname for the North Korean leader.

Democratic US senators on Tuesday introduced a bill they said would prevent Trump from launching a nuclear first strike on North Korea on his own, highlighting the issue days before Trump's first trip to Asia as president.

A high-ranking North Korean defector said in Washington on Tuesday that he backed the Trump administration's policy of pressuring Pyongyang through sanctions, coupled with "maximum engagement" with the leadership and increased efforts to get information into North Korea to educate its people.

"I strongly believe in the use of soft power before taking any military actions," Thae Yong Ho, who was the chief of mission at Pyongyang's embassy in London until he defected in 2016, told the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

The New York channel is one of the few conduits the United States has for communicating with North Korea, which has made clear it has little interest in serious talks before it develops a nuclear-tipped missile capable of hitting the continental United States.

The launch of a North Korean Hwasong-12 missile.Thomson Reuters

The State Department official said the last high-level contact between Yun and the North Koreans was when he traveled to North Korea in June to secure the release of Warmbier, who died shortly after he returned home in a coma.

The Trump administration has demanded North Korea release three other US citizens: Kim Dong Chul, a missionary, and Tony Kim and Kim Hak Song, who are academics.

Warmbier's death was a factor in the chilling of US-North Korean contacts around that time, but the biggest was Pyongyang's stepped-up testing, the official said.

The official said, however, that "the preferred endpoint is not a war but some kind of diplomatic settlement" and that suggestions that Washington was setting up a binary choice for Pyongyang to capitulate diplomatically or military action were "misleading."

Diplomacy, the official said, "has a lot more room to go."

But Trump's threats against North Korea are believed to have complicated diplomatic efforts.