SkinsJock wrote:I'd rather have a really slow kick returner that has a fairly good average amount of yards returning kicks than a super fast kick returner with just an average amount of yards per return

Not sure ey has enough left to even work hard in the off-season to get ready...he's done.

While Paul does return KOs, that's an unncessary worry with kickoffs all flying through the end zone. We could put me there to down those that don't go through the end zone. I could do that!!! Paul has horrible hands -- especially for an ex-WR. He isn't slow for his size though.

SkinsJock wrote:I'd rather have a really slow kick returner that has a fairly good average amount of yards returning kicks than a super fast kick returner with just an average amount of yards per return

Were you thinking of Banks?

NO - I was just pointing out that having a 'slow' kick returner with a good average is better than having a 'fast' KR with not many yards per return

P A T I E N C E - Snyder needs to just 'butt out' and give Scot time to figure out who he needs in the FO, who he needs as the HC and what players fit what he thinks is a good system for this franchise - it's a mess & it will take time

fredp45 wrote:Not sure ey has enough left to even work hard in the off-season to get ready...he's done.

While Paul does return KOs, that's an unncessary worry with kickoffs all flying through the end zone. We could put me there to down those that don't go through the end zone. I could do that!!! Paul has horrible hands -- especially for an ex-WR. He isn't slow for his size though.

fredp45 wrote:Not sure ey has enough left to even work hard in the off-season to get ready...he's done.

While Paul does return KOs, that's an unncessary worry with kickoffs all flying through the end zone. We could put me there to down those that don't go through the end zone. I could do that!!! Paul has horrible hands -- especially for an ex-WR. He isn't slow for his size though.

SkinsJock wrote:I'd rather have a really slow kick returner that has a fairly good average amount of yards returning kicks than a super fast kick returner with just an average amount of yards per return

That is a cute statement!

But you know what I was wrong, NP didn't have a good y/kr average I just remembered it being better than it was. He would have fallen at 23rd in the NFL if he had enough return to fall into the qualified list. His kick return average was 21.8 while Banks averaged 24 and was ranked 16th.

Could it be that our blockers on kr (and pr) just didn't do a very good job? Also, that NP has no business returning kicks.

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He's not 'finished' but there's no way he's making the roster, when we have Davis, Paulsen, & Paul

BTW - Banks is NOT making the roster either

P A T I E N C E - Snyder needs to just 'butt out' and give Scot time to figure out who he needs in the FO, who he needs as the HC and what players fit what he thinks is a good system for this franchise - it's a mess & it will take time

He's not 'finished' but there's no way he's making the roster, when we have Davis, Paulsen, & Paul

BTW - Banks is NOT making the roster either

I agree with you in that I do like Chris, but based on his role late last year and the TEs on our roster, it is clear his time here is over. That said, the dude will only be 31 when the season starts. He is NOT an RB. TEs tend to have longer shelf-lives. Depending, he may have up to 4 years left if he really wants it.

Ultimately whether he catches on somewhere else will be up to him and his commitment to preparation. As you get older, you have to put in more work to produce the same results you did in your early 20s. I'm not 100% Chris will make that sort of commitment.

As far as Banks --- he is gone. Crawford was CLEARLY the better PR last season. If Banks isn't returning punts well (which he isn't), he is worthless.

It really does not matter how 'old' a player is - the coaches can really tell what's there and they would be utilizing anything they could - ey does not fit what we need anymore

I'm sure he really wants to be a part of things and probably thinks he still can help - let's face it ... they all do - time to move on here

P A T I E N C E - Snyder needs to just 'butt out' and give Scot time to figure out who he needs in the FO, who he needs as the HC and what players fit what he thinks is a good system for this franchise - it's a mess & it will take time