[Discussion] What we need to know is what is stronger Kyuubi's or Nature Chakra?

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Re: What we need to know is what is stronger Kyuubi's or Nature Chakra?

Originally Posted by Qcks

So I mentioned this in another thread, but, I don't think the Kyuubi Chakra is necessarily going to enhance Sage Mode directly.

Sage Mode is already pretty powerful. Currently the biggest limitation to Sage mode is the ability to gather up enough Sage chakra to maintain it.
In the Manga, Pa tried to Fuse with Naruto in order to facilitate the continued accumulation of Sage chakra while in combat, but they were unable to fuse because the Kyuubi interferred with the fusion between Naruto and Fukasaku.
If Naruto can master the consciousness of the Kyuubi, or at least get it to work with him, he could have the Kyuubi gather Nature Energy while he fights using sage mode.

That alone would negate the current weakness to Sage mode.

On top of that... I'm kinda wondering if the Kyuubi has a natural affinity for an element or elements.
Every Bijuu we've seen thus far has at least one elemental affinity, but they've not really said if or what the Kyuubi's Elemental affinity is.
If I had to venture a guess I'd say Fire, since alot of imagery associated with the Kyuubi involves Fire. We already know that Fire pairs with Wind, enhancing the destructive ability of Fire Jutsus, but just because the imagery fits doesn't make it so.

Re: What we need to know is what is stronger Kyuubi's or Nature Chakra?

naruto doesnt the need the nature chakra to protect him from the kyuubi's chakra, it only did damage when he lost control and past 2 tails, in part 1 he used the kyuubi's chakra without developing tails, this is what it will be like after he controls the fox, he will/should be able to use the chakra in the same way as the other jinchuriki's. allowing him to fully transform without negative affect.

i think the kyuubi chakra is stronger than the nature chakra, but would be they both have there advantages and would be better if they were joint together, but balancing 4 types of chakra is going to be hard, i know we saw a glimpse of it during the pain arc, but i wonder if he could sustain it, in battle?

Re: What we need to know is what is stronger Kyuubi's or Nature Chakra?

Re: What we need to know is what is stronger Kyuubi's or Nature Chakra?

Originally Posted by Dabz

naruto doesnt the need the nature chakra to protect him from the kyuubi's chakra, it only did damage when he lost control and past 2 tails, in part 1 he used the kyuubi's chakra without developing tails, this is what it will be like after he controls the fox, he will/should be able to use the chakra in the same way as the other jinchuriki's. allowing him to fully transform without negative affect.

i think the kyuubi chakra is stronger than the nature chakra, but would be they both have there advantages and would be better if they were joint together, but balancing 4 types of chakra is going to be hard, i know we saw a glimpse of it during the pain arc, but i wonder if he could sustain it, in battle?

let know your thoughts

If Naruto filters out the will of the kyuubi his chakra shouldn't burn him anymore. It would look kind of wearied to see Naruto turn into the kyuubi like how Bee did with Sasuke and taka, but I would like to see the mini buji states Bee does.

All chakra is the same its the amount and properties that count. They both give Naruto positive abilities like with sage mode it comes with the Katas, he becomes a sensory type and battle damage doesn't do much. While the kyuubi's chakra protects him from attacks, he can shot arms form no where, he could increase any attack 1000xs and just the shear volume of chakra could keep him going for days. It would be cool if Naruto fused natural energy with the kyuubi to grant him even more power than the just using one.

Re: What we need to know is what is stronger Kyuubi's or Nature Chakra?

Originally Posted by NarutoUzumakiMinato

Then y did he tell sauske that if he killed Naruto that he would
regret it

Could have been a bluff a jinchuuriki is linked both host and buji a jinchuuriki can't live without it beast so the opposite should be the same. I guess the before a jinchuuriki dies the buji gets extracted with the exception of the 10tails because he was that powerful.

Re: What we need to know is what is stronger Kyuubi's or Nature Chakra?

i know it's not the most popular idea but i hope naruto isn't able to work with the foxes chakra. i want to see naruto excel with his own chakra. i want him to surpass his father. not just seal away the fox but destroy it. i hope akatsuki takes the fox from him but obviously he survives and he beats the fox or even the 10 tails. i think naruto is about facing your daemons and beating them.

ON THE OTHER HAND (because i always have 2 hands ) facing your daemons and learning to deal with them and turning your weaknesses into your strength is also a pretty good lesson too.

but i wold LOVE to see an epic battle between naruto and the fox or better yet the 10 tails.

Re: What we need to know is what is stronger Kyuubi's or Nature Chakra?

Originally Posted by Sarito

MostlikelybecauseSasukewouldregretit.

Thats BS....the kyuubi knows uchiha's better than anyone
he knows how sinister they can be so i HIGHLY doubt that is
the reason y he said sauske will regret it

Originally Posted by niblack89

Could have been a bluff a jinchuuriki is linked both host and buji a jinchuuriki can't live without it beast so the opposite should be the same. I guess the before a jinchuuriki dies the buji gets extracted with the exception of the 10tails because he was that powerful.

Yea, it could of been a bluff but i dont think thats it either
i think the Kyuubi and Uchiha's have a deeper history than
what has been told

Re: What we need to know is what is stronger Kyuubi's or Nature Chakra?

We saw a small example of Fox/Sage chakra when Nagato used a chakra blade to drain Naruto normal Chakra, nature abhorred vacuums so fox chakra replace normal chakra and Naruto stayed in control. I think the sage training raise Naruto's concentration abilities far beyond what He used to be at.Remember when Jiraiya attempted to teach Naruto meditation He would lose His Temper and concentration very quickly, but now its becoming second Nature to Him. And that kind of concentration is what Naruto needs to Master the Fox.

Re: What we need to know is what is stronger Kyuubi's or Nature Chakra?

Thats a mindbreaker...nature chakra vs infinite chakra...
I'll go fo kyuubi.
But its a good point though, how can juubi have over infinite chakra?
Or is it just more intelligence or thirst for destruction? ( wich kyuubi also seems to possess...)

Re: What we need to know is what is stronger Kyuubi's or Nature Chakra?

As every knows Naruto will maste his kyuubi with training from KB but as
we've seen him do with his wind affinity i hope he doesnt learn how to do
one attack and then call it quits....he needs to learn all the secrets he hasnt learned
yet,......like his next affinity wether it be Fire or Water(water please )....and the
secret jutsu his father left him...etc

Also i've been wondering if Naruto already knows an S-ranked-wind jutsu then
shouldnt other lower ranked-wind jutsus be rather simple