I gotta say i am listening to it more and more. not that i listen to the radio that much, but i find myself favoring 1050 over 590 nowadays. The only show i like on the FAN is tim and sid which is the best sports radio bar none. No one can touch those two guys....

I listen to 1050 a fair amount more than I did before, but I still listen to the FAN more. If I listened to morning radio I would def listen to 1050 though, can't stand Brady & Walker. Tim and Sid are the best and Bobcat is pretty boring nowadays. Always the same guests etc.

i have noticed this to the point of it being silly. It's always the exact same people. FAN needs to seriously expand on their roladex. I have come to prefer the pre and post raptor coverage on TSN (maybe because it's new to me).

and Bobcat is getting boring indeed. Doesn't really have much of anything to say. I tend to prefer the TSN primetime now too.

I gotta say i am listening to it more and more. not that i listen to the radio that much, but i find myself favoring 1050 over 590 nowadays. The only show i like on the FAN is tim and sid which is the best sports radio bar none. No one can touch those two guys....

However beyond that show i think TSN is better.

Wondering if anyone else feels this way.

TSN drive with Dave Naylor is leagues better than primetime right now. Agreed on all the comments RE: cox. The guy is such a whiny fuckface. Anytime basketball is even brought up in passing he makes some offhand comment to cut it down.

I actually don't mind Shannon. He's definitely a hockey guy but at least he knows his place.

as to why people like him come on the radio as returning figures, it's because sports media lived in its own cocoon. Rogers and the FAN is the fucking worst. They're their own 'old boys club' with their recurring dinosaurs and same old shit all the time. Maybe TSN is the same i don't know, but i'm just discovering them right now for the most part so the jury is still out.

Anytime basketball is even brought up in passing he makes some offhand comment to cut it down. I just don't understand how time after time that show brings such one-dimensional individuals to the table. Fucking terrible.

i got it off the main fan590 page podcasts section. It's the second part to the prime time sports ones.

The debate in a nutshell was they were debating ratings and fan following and Tim was saying hockey's numbers can be attributed to the fact that it has a multi generational following compared to basketball which does not. Other two Cox and i think Shannon were saying that basketball has been around just as long and that it was just as accessible to sports fans in past generations as hockey was. Which if you think about it is a total crock. They were basically saying they could follow, watch basketball just as much as hockey in the 50s or whenever they were young men.

there's so little weight in that argument. Nevermind that there was no real hometeam to root for and follow. but one of the biggest issues i had was their narrowmindedness and flat out rudeness in the debate. They would not let him get a word in edgewise and would frequently cut him off. It was a painful listen and it's done a lot to not make me want to listen to PTS again.

Maybe i'll tune in when the avg. age of the panelists is under 60. whatever happened to that lawyer they used to have everyday? Kirk?

i got it off the main fan590 page podcasts section. It's the second part to the prime time sports ones.

The debate in a nutshell was they were debating ratings and fan following and Tim was saying hockey's numbers can be attributed to the fact that it has a multi generational following compared to basketball which does not. Other two Cox and i think Shannon were saying that basketball has been around just as long and that it was just as accessible to sports fans in past generations as hockey was. Which if you think about it is a total crock. They were basically saying they could follow, watch basketball just as much as hockey.

there's so little weight in that argument. Nevermind that there was no real hometeam to root for and follow. but one of the biggest issues i had was their narrowmindedness and flat out rudeness in the debate. They would not let him get a word in edgewise and would frequently cut him off. It was a painful listen and it's done a lot to not make me want to listen to PTS again.

The best one was Shannon saying he could follow the NBA here 30-40yrs ago by reading the paper. Yep.....highly accessible alright. Lol

Other than tim not one of them knows or cares about basketball in this country. In fact I would say two of them probably wish the Raptors folded years ago.

i got it off the main fan590 page podcasts section. It's the second part to the prime time sports ones.

The debate in a nutshell was they were debating ratings and fan following and Tim was saying hockey's numbers can be attributed to the fact that it has a multi generational following compared to basketball which does not. Other two Cox and i think Shannon were saying that basketball has been around just as long and that it was just as accessible to sports fans in past generations as hockey was. Which if you think about it is a total crock. They were basically saying they could follow, watch basketball just as much as hockey in the 50s or whenever they were young men.

there's so little weight in that argument. Nevermind that there was no real hometeam to root for and follow. but one of the biggest issues i had was their narrowmindedness and flat out rudeness in the debate. They would not let him get a word in edgewise and would frequently cut him off. It was a painful listen and it's done a lot to not make me want to listen to PTS again.

Maybe i'll tune in when the avg. age of the panelists is under 60. whatever happened to that lawyer they used to have everyday? Kirk?

Thanks fancy..just listened to it...interesting stuff
What i found most interesting was the "Sterling" portion of the broadcast..i agree that this situation is a long way from being over...shit hasn't even begun to hit the fan yet..once Sterling decides to start talking/fight back there could be a number of NBA owners/executives etc etc that will wish he would just stfu