Does the Central Limit Theorem prove a Creator/Deity?

Even though we may feel it is concrete and absolute enough to be considered a discovery it is still a conceptual relative system created by our
perception...

It is an invention.

Please inform us of the inventor of math? Does it have a patent?

Again, math has always been. No one person saw that his buddy had two wooden clubs and he had 1 and then said, "Let's create a system based on
numbers where we can add, subtract, divide and multiply. So my one club plus your two would then equal.....let's call it a 3!"

Again the name was created, perhaps the concept but the math has always been there. Air has always been here, we did not make it nor create it but we
did discover it. It will be here, as will math, long after you and I are gone also.

No matter where we go in the universe 2 plus 2 equals 4. It's an absolute.

Math exists in our minds.

It is a system, a language, and a concept that is built on itself.

Math didn't exist until people had the cognitive ability to create it.

I'm not saying math doesn't describe the physical world in a more concrete objective way than verbal sound based languages but it is still a system
dependent on the perception of our minds.

I'm not a geneticist but I think geneticists discovered that our DNA is in a slow but steady state of degradation. I heard that their estimates for
the age of our DNA is between 20,000 to 50,000 years old.....but I could be wrong on that...and so could they...LOL

How do we know that our creator did not create us with basic knowledge of addition and subtraction, language, survival skills, etc? Our more complex
math could be the result of our creator's consciousness being slowly revealed to us over time(sort of like an evolutionary process of the mind,
consciousness, and spirit). In other words, what we call math, music, language, art, philosophy, etc. always existed, but our ability to tap into it
was dispensed to us over time by God.

Originally posted by John Matrix
How do we know that our creator did not create us with basic knowledge of addition and subtraction, language, survival skills, etc? .....

John, are not the INFINITE TRUTHS in math...already there...and we FINITE humans just found them?

OT curious????

PS: Thx for the continuous (that a form of data, btw

support on this thread!

OT

That's exactly what I think. The mind of God is infinite , and His Truths existed long before they were revealed to us.

I don't believe we found anything. Things have been revealed at the appropriate time, according to His purpose.

With technical knowledge expected to double in a 72 hour period sometime during 2010 it is an exciting time to be around.....assuming that the
exponential increase in knowledge continues on it's established course.

Originally posted by John Matrix
...With technical knowledge expected to double in a 72 hour period sometime during 2010 it is an exciting time to be around.....assuming that the
exponential increase in knowledge continues on it's established course.

2010, huh? Where did you learn that?

Scripture definitely talks about..." knowledge will increase in the last days...."

....exponential curve.....????....sweet statistical term there friend!

Originally posted by idle_rocker
Old woman agrees with Old Thinker, and has nothing to add other than agreement. All things existed before human discovery of said thing discovered
which already existed.

Wow! lotta wisdom with our old age huh? Young folks just won't listen.....?????

Many atheists (those holding to an empirical world view) claim that one gains knowledge through or via observation. So through their senses (sight,
smell, touch, hearing and taste) they observe/experience the world and from these empirical means they gain knowledge of their world.

They know that heat can burn and they know this because they have observed it.

The problem with this though is that no one ever gains knowledge from observation. Knowledge must be prior to observation, if not then how does one
know they are in fact observing? So where does knowledge (awareness) come from?

In the animal world who teaches a bird to fly? Flight is not taught. A bird has the knowledge of flight prior to actual flight. It's innate.

In the animal world who teaches a bird to fly? Flight is not taught. A bird has the knowledge of flight prior to actual flight. It's
innate.

What about talking? There is much subconscious hardwired knowledge in the more archaic structures of our brain yet others have to be learned in every
individual. Babies when exposed to it develop the ability to speak and understand speech, and those who don't (i.e. feral children) who miss the
crucial period of learning will never be able to speak.

Instinct is a product of evolution, as is consciousness and awareness.

Originally posted by TangoVooDoo
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The problem with this though is that no one ever gains knowledge from observation. Knowledge must be prior to observation, if not then how does one
know they are in fact observing? So where does knowledge (awareness) come from?
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