where are his markings from ? illidans tattoos were burned on him by sargeras himself. they let him see without his eyes.
what are those blue tattoos on malfurions body ?

No.... Illidan's tattoos is just fancy demon taint. Illidan can see without his eyes due to Sargeras "replacing" his amber-coloured eyes with magic fel-fire which also burned most of the skin of his face (hence the scarf). Malfurion's tattoos are just for show as well.

No.... Illidan's tattoos is just fancy demon taint. Illidan can see without his eyes due to Sargeras "replacing" his amber-coloured eyes with magic fel-fire which also burned most of the skin of his face (hence the scarf). Malfurion's tattoos are just for show as well.

I don't know what blasphemous novels you've been reading, but in the actual story, Illidan is quite blind when we meet him. At least that's implied by him wearing his demon hunter mask. Forget all that retcon BS you've been reading from books. Here's the real story:

Demon Hunters are dark, shadowy warriors who are shunned by the greater Night Elf society. They made a pact, long ago, to fight against the forces of chaos using its own terrible powers against it. These mysterious warriors ritually blind themselves so that they develop 'spectral sight' that enables them to see demons and undead with greater clarity. They wield demonically charged warblades in battle and even call upon demonic energies to augment their formidable combat skills. Although they are counted as some of the mightiest warriors within the Night Elves' society, the Demon Hunters are always maligned and misunderstood for making their selfless pact with darkness.

I don't know what blasphemous novels you've been reading, but in the actual story, Illidan is quite blind when we meet him. At least that's implied by him wearing his demon hunter mask. Forget all that retcon BS you've been reading from books. Here's the real story:

So... Yeah. They may have retconned Illidan's blindness to some gift of "fiery orbs" from Sargeras, but that's all BS. In truth, demon hunters, which Illidan was, blind themselves.

Also, it's Furion. Not "Malfurion".

... You are kinda special aren't you? You *do* know that all books, bar the RPG ones, are canon right? Also he was called Malfurion in TFT, and in the RoC manual... So yeah, go play a smartass elsewhere....

It's a bit like saying Greedo shot first and calling that "canon". Sure, if you own the IP you can retcon the hell out of it, and call it whatever you like, or you can let some second grade writers retcon it for you. That, however, doesn't change what actually happened and what actually was.

Originally Posted by Venziir

Also he was called Malfurion in TFT, and in the RoC manual... So yeah, go play a smartass elsewhere....

It's a bit like saying Greedo shot first and calling that "canon". Sure, if you own the IP you can retcon the hell out of it, and call it whatever you like, or you can let some second grade writers retcon it for you. That, however, doesn't change what actually happened and what actually was.

*whoosh*

Guess the sarcastic sunglasses didn't work there.

Uhm yeah actually it does, since that's exactly what a retcon is - a change. Honestly, just understand this and move on - the retcon is age old anyways....

It's a bit like saying Greedo shot first and calling that "canon". Sure, if you own the IP you can retcon the hell out of it, and call it whatever you like, or you can let some second grade writers retcon it for you. That, however, doesn't change what actually happened and what actually was.
*whoosh*
Guess the sarcastic sunglasses didn't work there.

I'm guessing you weren't burdened by an overabundance of schooling.

If World of Warcraft has taught me anything, it's that teaching a crowd something is far harder than teaching individuals.

Uhm yeah actually it does, since that's exactly what a retcon is - a change. Honestly, just understand this and move on - the retcon is age old anyways....

I understand what retcon is, and I understand what canon is, both quite fine. What I'm saying is, and what you're not getting is, that sometimes doing a retcon is considered a dick move, and will not be accepted as canon by the loyal fan base just because the creator(s) of the IP decided one day to change something.

Then there's of course the fact that the WoW books can be considered to be nothing but EU, and then we'd have to have a long discussion about the levels of canon of WoW, and whether EU is canon or not. Hell, Star Wars has four levels of canon. If I were to use SW terms here, I for one would definitely not consider the books G-canon. They're EU, so they'd be C-canon.

But, since this is WoW, not SW, and since I'm not going to read the books, I don't really give a rat's ass what's in them, and do not consider them in any way or form relevant to WoW's story. What's told in the game is sufficient (whilst unfortunately not always without some holes) for me personally.

I understand what retcon is, and I understand what canon is, both quite fine. What I'm saying is, and what you're not getting is, that sometimes doing a retcon is considered a dick move, and will not be accepted as canon by the loyal fan base just because the creator(s) of the IP decided one day to change something.

Then there's of course the fact that the WoW books can be considered to be nothing but EU, and then we'd have to have a long discussion about the levels of canon of WoW, and whether EU is canon or not. Hell, Star Wars has four levels of canon. If I were to use SW terms here, I for one would definitely not consider the books G-canon. They're EU, so they'd be C-canon.

But, since this is WoW, not SW, and since I'm not going to read the books, I don't really give a rat's ass what's in them, and do not consider them in any way or form relevant to WoW's story. What's told in the game is sufficient (whilst unfortunately not always without some holes) for me personally.

When the creators of Blizzard and the lore of their games personally say that the books are canon - then that's just how it is - done deal. You are honestly just being childish and foolish right now and I will not waste another second trying to argue with you, hell it isn't even an argument as much as me being right and you being ignorant.

Demon hunters ritually blind themselves for spectral sight, Illidan was the first demon hunter ever so basically all the rest are emulating him and remove their eyes for the advantage of spirit sight.

If you want to ignore canon because you didnt like a book or its writers then thats up to you, its also up to you to lock yourself in a box, imagine you are on an island while poking your fingers in your ears and repeating, "Nanananananananana I cant hear you!!!!"

I really hope we find out that demon hunters like the Dark Embrace existed in the time of the War of the Ancients and they aren't just copying off of Illidan. I always hated what Knaack did with his contribution to Illidan's back story, and I think people are over critical of Knaak. I would rather learn their vestments and rituals are based on something more than being Illidan fanboys.

Blizzard needs to replace Illidan's model in the Felwood questline with his new Well of Eternity model. They should also give Malfurion a new model using Illidan's new model as a base since they're twin brothers and Malfurion's new model suffers from the goofy qualities Thralls' original new model suffered from.