...His Term of banishment should be at an end only hours from now.....

Just over 48hours.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram

Ah, the original MOD team....

Ah yes, and.... on second thoughts, let's not go there...... :lol: ;)

December 7th, 2012, 12:51 PM

Kahaih

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterM

Not really all that amusing.

Especially knowing that Kahil was quite proud of his Lakota lineage.

December 7th, 2012, 01:14 PM

borg69unimatrix

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

So... Quasar -

Can you tell us if Andreus was indeed posting from the Boston area proving or disproving BostonPirate's claims of knowing him personally, and/or if he was a BostonPirate sock puppet (as some people claim)?

It seems to me like a lot of speculation and mystery could be cleared up if you were able to be a little more forthcoming in some details if you have access to that kind of information.

Was it ever figured out where/how/why his profile was mysteriously accessed recently?

I'm kinda seeing you having all the answers, and could shed light on all this and finally put it to rest with more definitive closure.

December 7th, 2012, 01:49 PM

refujiunderground

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

i think it's safe to say that dude isn't real. period.

December 7th, 2012, 02:09 PM

quasar

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix

So... Quasar -

Can you tell us if Andreus was indeed posting from the Boston area proving or disproving BostonPirate's claims of knowing him personally, and/or if he was a BostonPirate sock puppet (as some people claim)?

Knowing whether Andreus had posted from the Boston area neither proves or disproves that BP knew him personally.

Quote:

It seems to me like a lot of speculation and mystery could be cleared up if you were able to be a little more forthcoming in some details if you have access to that kind of information.

Revealing certain details would compromise the procedures we currently have in place for researching possible duplicate or underage members.

Quote:

Was it ever figured out where/how/why his profile was mysteriously accessed recently?

We're still awaiting further details on what triggers the Activity Log. We know that mods, admin, or staff accessing member's profiles doesn't trigger it, neither does a failed attempted login.

Quote:

I'm kinda seeing you having all the answers, and could shed light on all this and finally put it to rest with more definitive closure.

What I know, what I believe, and what I can prove, are three different things. :)

December 7th, 2012, 02:11 PM

Essex Boy

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Is anyone else surprised that Sloppyseconds hasn't joined in? He's not usually so shy and retiring. The discussion would benefit from the sort of high seriousness that only he can bring.

December 7th, 2012, 02:16 PM

refujiunderground

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Essex Boy

Is anyone else surprised that Sloppyseconds hasn't joined in? He's not usually so shy and retiring. The discussion would benefit from the sort of high seriousness that only he can bring.

sloppy's job is to entertain, not educate.

December 7th, 2012, 02:31 PM

HunterM

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by quasar

What I know, what I believe, and what I can prove, are three different things. :)

That's just awesome. We're now back to square 1 ](*,)
:lol:

December 7th, 2012, 03:01 PM

xbuzzerx

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hard-up1

Your prejudice is plain -- there were others ascerbic after Stacy.

Nice try on the jab though, but I haven't portrayed myself as the victim in any of my comments about Stacy, so that would be a miss, Sir.

I think it's safe to say that the most heated moments in this thread where when people with an emotional investiture in the story reacted to a perception of being belittled or feeling threatened that the Andreus identity was being questioned. Rather than the other way around.

Stacy admitted that this is personal for her, and that's 100% fine. But I don't believe any insult was intended towards anyone for "believing" in Andreus-- even Stacy herself said "regardless of whether he's real", what's important to her was his impact during the time he was here. Nothing in this discussion takes any of that away.

Quote:

Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix

You sure he won't get jealous a fictional character is more popular, and well liked then he is ??? :D

He seems to revel more in negative attention than positive imho. Maybe that's why he's so taken with Andreus.

December 7th, 2012, 03:35 PM

mikey3000

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

I think this is too much for Sloppy to follow. Hell, it's almost too much for me to follow.

December 7th, 2012, 03:43 PM

rareboy

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by quasar

Knowing whether Andreus had posted from the Boston area neither proves or disproves that BP knew him personally.
Revealing certain details would compromise the procedures we currently have in place for researching possible duplicate or underage members.
We're still awaiting further details on what triggers the Activity Log. We know that mods, admin, or staff accessing member's profiles doesn't trigger it, neither does a failed attempted login.
What I know, what I believe, and what I can prove, are three different things. :)

pssssssssssttt

Call me.....

I'd love to know. What you believe. What you know. and what you can prove.

Our secret.

I won't even tell Corny.

But id you know what I think you know and believe what I think you believe then the proof is in pudding.

Wink Wink Nudge Nudge Say no More......

December 7th, 2012, 03:48 PM

xbuzzerx

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by rareboy

pssssssssssttt

Call me.....

I'd love to know. What you believe. What you know. and what you can prove.

Our secret.

I won't even tell Corny.

But id you know what I think you know and believe what I think you believe then the proof is in pudding.

When he passed away -- I physically CRIED -- and then WISHED his troubled spirit WELL...

SO -- if he WAS an impostor...

BRAVO!!! :=D:

WELL DONE!!! (*8*)

:):):)

December 7th, 2012, 04:39 PM

cgymike

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

The thread is interesting so far but....tell me more about Andreus.....

:lol:

December 7th, 2012, 06:57 PM

HoodedRat

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

^
:confused:

December 7th, 2012, 07:22 PM

ChickenGuy

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Many thanks to Ram and refuji for their congats posts! (*8*)

(UU)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBessler

This leaves only two possibilites. Andreus Thanos was either a nom de plume or a sockpuppet. There's a difference.

For Andreus Thanos to be a nom de plume, there'd have to be a real guy, who served in Iraq, worked in an emergency room, was an expert photographer, got AIDs and died six months later, during a fast that's not really a fast. This strains credibility to say the least.

Was Andreus back when he was here claiming that he was a professional photographer TOO?!?! :eek:

That almost positively confirms it beyond doubt - he 'mined' the REAL photographer's website for his backstory.

A JUBber posted the link earlier on in this thread (can't be bothered going through 20 pages to find it)

There IS a man called Andreas Thanos who IS a photographer, who IS in Boston, and who HAS preumably Greek ("southern Europe") connections including through travel.

Is anyone else surprised that Sloppyseconds hasn't joined in? He's not usually so shy and retiring. The discussion would benefit from the sort of high seriousness that only he can bring.

Somebody is too busy posting in this thread, to have time to post under his sock puppet SLOPPYSECONDS, haha. (Look, he said "his" - that means it's NOT Stacy! One clue solved in the ongoing mystery.)

:wave: and (*8*) at Stacy...just before scurrying from the thread...at least for now.

Oh, same goes to Swerve!!

December 8th, 2012, 12:18 AM

bobobo

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

I've been trying to imagine what might/could end this thread.

December 8th, 2012, 12:22 AM

pat grimshaw

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobobo

I've been trying to imagine what might/could end this thread.

I hope the Svengali who created the Andreas puppet would appear from behind the stage curtain to reveal the strings

December 8th, 2012, 04:18 AM

rareboy

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobobo

I've been trying to imagine what might/could end this thread.

December 8th, 2012, 04:25 AM

medic1

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

^^^^
Just a small correction , HIV and AID`s are two entirely different conditions .
It was not uncommon to get an AID`s Diagnosis and be DEAD less than six months later , ESPECIALLY in the Dark-Ages of the
eighties .

Rareboy`s post just got there while i was typing , comment meant for the poster above him .

December 8th, 2012, 05:06 AM

quasar

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBessler

...In addition to all of this: the time period between his supposed onset of illness and his death was only six months. By 2007, this would have been extremely unlikely, if not pretty nigh impossible. Even during the Dark Days of the 1980s, AIDS took years to kill...

But according to 'Mitri' it was a heart problem that killed him, not the virus...

December 8th, 2012, 05:13 AM

rareboy

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

^ I think the point is though, that by 2007, in the West, it would have been pretty hard to have gone from a diagnosis of AIDS to death within 6 months.

And the nonsense about the fasting and the medications during the month of Ramadan demonstrated that the original 'auteur' of the Andreus farce really did meet the criteria of the 'Munchhausen by Internet' syndrome. Not only did the librettist make mistakes about the religious observances and proscriptions, they also made the error of not understanding the trajectory of the disease, where the person was receiving active treatment. By 2006, the average life expectancy in the US for people diagnosed with AIDS was 24 years.

But as Quasar noted, it was actually some heart problem that was supposed to have killed Andreus.
But the same conditions apply. And water is not forbidden to those who are ill. And even the most religious are only not drinking from sunrise to sundown.

At the end of the day, the creator of Andreus got bored having to inhabit the character on line and knew that the only way to wring the very last emotional response from the audience was to have him expire under the most romantic and pathetic circumstances possible. He couldn't maintain the infinitely less convincing and interesting Mitri character, so that one had to go to jail.

But the crux of the matter is....

Did this avatar do actual harm to anyone on JUB?

Did this avatar actually help anyone on JUB?

If he did no harm except finally embarassing those who were taken in...then that is pretty harmless.

If he did anyone good at all, then

December 8th, 2012, 06:34 AM

Ram

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

^ Brilliant.

December 8th, 2012, 08:53 AM

Kahaih

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by rareboy

. . . . .

If he did no harm except finally embarassing those who were taken in...then that is pretty harmless.

. . . . .

That is a very big ‘if’.

Not pleased.

I will come back to this after I’ve collected myself.

December 8th, 2012, 08:56 AM

sixthson

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

The whole Islamic thing was bogus and I told Andreus that. How could someone claim to be such a devout Muslim by strictly observing a prayer life, Ramadan and other holy days as well as not using alcohol, but ignore the prohibition against a man being a cocksucker? When challenged, he always side stepped or double talked it.

Andreus had to "die" and anyone who paid attention saw the drama of it unfolding beforehand. And Andreus died for one reason--it was no longer possible to keep up the act. But he couldn't just delete his account, he had to die as he lived on JUB, in a blaze of glory that got him the maximum amount of attention.

December 8th, 2012, 09:17 AM

sixthson

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheFallenAsexual

Loving this thread. So now, there's an Andreas Thanos in Boston who does photography and is still alive? Wow.

Sorry, but isn't this true of 99% of people who cling to any religion? You being a devout christian hasn't put you off of sucking the cock either, has it?

Both Islam and Christianity condemn homosexuality. I don't pretend otherwise. Andreus wanted others to believe this was not true of his religion.

December 8th, 2012, 10:55 AM

rareboy

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Christianity does not condemn homosexuality.

Paul had something to say on the matter, but the dude was all up in your face about everything. If the transcriptionists hadn't ever found or translated this little tidbit from Paul...is there anything else in the Christian dogma that would have touched on this? Nope. Because the Commandments don't have anything to say about it either.

But Christ was mum on the subject. And Paul is not Christ.

But a lot of us weren't sure whether Andreus might not have been.....

December 8th, 2012, 10:57 AM

xbuzzerx

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by rareboy

Christianity does not condemn homosexuality.

Paul had something to say on the matter, but the dude was all up in your face about everything. If the transcriptionists hadn't ever found or translated this little tidbit from Paul...is there anything else in the Christian dogma that would have touched on this? Nope. Because the Commandments don't have anything to say about it either.

But Christ was mum on the subject. And Paul is not Christ.

Agreed. The only clear condemnations of it other than Paul come from sections of the Bible that literally put it alongside things like touching a woman who is on her period or eating lobster as all things that will get you tossed out of the kingdom of heaven. Christians ignore literally everything in the OT except that one line.

December 8th, 2012, 11:39 AM

Kyanimal

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

O.K.!

I think we can all agree, to agree, that "Andreus Thanos" was likely a nom de plume, just as (and I'm sure I'll shock a few of you) "Kyanimal" is!

Now ... was he "Real" or a "Puppet"?

There certainly was a Real person behind the Character, whether a "Puppeteer", or not. And, the character of Adreus certainly existed HERE as this very thread Proves! SO ... Yes! Andreus did, and to a surprising extent still does, "Exist"!

He was a very notorious "force" on this site, and I consider myself quite fortunate to have been "here" at the time, and had the experience of interacting with him! I doubt I'll ever forget him!

I consider it a moot point if there was/is an ACTUAL Dreu person running around "out there" somewhere! There is no doubt he was definitely "Here"! (group)

Keep smilin'!! :kiss: (*8*)
Chaz :luv:

December 8th, 2012, 12:05 PM

palbert

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Andreus has passed beyond mere mortality. He is now legend.

December 8th, 2012, 12:06 PM

TheLyingGame

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

I hope i'm this popular when i 'die'.

December 8th, 2012, 12:08 PM

refujiunderground

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by palbert

Andreus has passed beyond mere mortality. He is now legend.

how can somebody be a legend if they never existed? andreus is just the jub version of moby dick.

- - - Updated - - -

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLyingGame

I hope i'm this popular when i 'die'.

are you implying something?

December 8th, 2012, 12:09 PM

TheLyingGame

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by refujiunderground

are you implying something?

No. I'm not that smart.

December 8th, 2012, 12:10 PM

rareboy

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by palbert

Andreus has passed beyond mere mortality. He is now legend.

I'd like to think there is a little Andreus in all of us.

December 8th, 2012, 12:10 PM

refujiunderground

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLyingGame

No. I'm not that smart.

sarcasm, right?

December 8th, 2012, 12:14 PM

TheLyingGame

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by refujiunderground

sarcasm, right?

Of course. That is my first language.

December 8th, 2012, 12:15 PM

palbert

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by refujiunderground

how can somebody be a legend if they never existed? andreus is just the jub version of moby dick. ....

Or Jesus Christ.

December 8th, 2012, 12:28 PM

rareboy

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by refujiunderground

how can somebody be a legend if they never existed? [/COLOR]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

...........because a lot of legends are about people or things that never existed?

But I see where you're going.

You're saying that the Andreus saga was a whale of a sperm laden tale?

December 8th, 2012, 01:10 PM

palbert

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBessler

^I find it interesting to watch the tone of this thread evolve. It has changed, as surely as do the seasons.

Contiuning on with the analogy, it's fall (autumn) in this thread. Eulogies are being said for the sockpuppet/creative invention of Andreus. The thread has matured before our very eyes.

I think this was one of the best threads ever for JUB. I'm glad to see that others have agreed.

I suggest some one musically inclined -- Pianist? -- compose a Requiem Mass.

December 8th, 2012, 01:10 PM

rareboy

Re: Tell me more about Andreus

Heavens to Betsy boyz...

If everyone can't just come to the point of having some fun with the entire affair.....then we all are a pretty dour bunch.

Andreus would have not wanted us to laugh, because frankly he was a joyless sort, but if we can't laugh at one another, who else is there???