I am an atheist, but my views on gods angels and other stuff like that is: even if there is a god why should we worship him? look at all humans have accomplished. And all we can accomplish, to me we are gods, we can build our muscles to lift hundreds of pounds. We can adapt quickly, we have created math,science and whole civilizations. if we somehow tapped into the full power of our brains and muscles we would be almost unstoppable. So to me I think no god(if there is one) is worthy of our worship to me the only things worthy of our worship is ourselves.

hacker85 wrote:I am an atheist, but my views on gods angels and other stuff like that is: even if there is a god why should we worship him? look at all humans have accomplished. And all we can accomplish, to me we are gods, we can build our muscles to lift hundreds of pounds. We can adapt quickly, we have created math,science and whole civilizations. if we somehow tapped into the full power of our brains and muscles we would be almost unstoppable. So to me I think no god(if there is one) is worthy of our worship to me the only things worthy of our worship is ourselves.

If there is a god, we should worship him. Just how you should respect your parents although you're already born. They will still always be there for support, and if they weren't (because you don't respect them), a lot of people would probably be pretty lost.

Not to mention, worshiping yourself will most likely cause an ego the size of a blimp, which will only cause ego fights (i.e. "I'm smarter!", "No! I'm smarter!").

orwell84 wrote:

sanddbox wrote:I don't think we created math or science...

I agree. It was more of a discovery than a creation.

Math and science was created by us. There's something called Number Theory, which is the theory of how numbers relate to things in the real world. Just how English is used to communicate, French can do the same thing, along with Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, and a whole load of others.

hacker85 wrote:I am an atheist, but my views on gods angels and other stuff like that is: even if there is a god why should we worship him? look at all humans have accomplished. And all we can accomplish, to me we are gods, we can build our muscles to lift hundreds of pounds. We can adapt quickly, we have created math,science and whole civilizations. if we somehow tapped into the full power of our brains and muscles we would be almost unstoppable. So to me I think no god(if there is one) is worthy of our worship to me the only things worthy of our worship is ourselves.

If there is a god, we should worship him. Just how you should respect your parents although you're already born. They will still always be there for support, and if they weren't (because you don't respect them), a lot of people would probably be pretty lost.

Not to mention, worshiping yourself will most likely cause an ego the size of a blimp, which will only cause ego fights (i.e. "I'm smarter!", "No! I'm smarter!").

orwell84 wrote:

sanddbox wrote:I don't think we created math or science...

I agree. It was more of a discovery than a creation.

Math and science was created by us. There's something called Number Theory, which is the theory of how numbers relate to things in the real world. Just how English is used to communicate, French can do the same thing, along with Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, and a whole load of others.

Number Theory has nothing to do with this argument. The numbers were already there; we were just the ones to see them.

You can't really say that the numbers were already there. This is how I think of it.

Caveman saw some rocks, and told his wife to go to the group of rocks. But there were many groups of rocks. So the caveman had to use his intelligence to describe to her that it was a group of three rocks.

There may have been three rocks there since the dawn of time, but someone had to think of the concept of numbers in order to properly perceive or describe them.

Math and science was created by us. There's something called Number Theory, which is the theory of how numbers relate to things in the real world. Just how English is used to communicate, French can do the same thing, along with Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, and a whole load of others.

Number Theory has nothing to do with this argument. The numbers were already there; we were just the ones to see them.

Thus, we discovered it.

Number Theory has everything to do with what your talking about. God can use whatever he wants to count, or maybe he doesn't even count at all.

insomaniacal wrote:Once again, things in nature occur, but humans invented science as a way to observe and understand them.