"There seems to be some confusion in testimony during the October arbitration hearing. According to Romero, Lien told him to get a second opinion; Romero took the supplement to a second nutritionist, who cleared it. In the hearing, Lien testified to that fact, but at another time he said he suggested Romero not take it. Romero in no way blames Lien."

If you have to take the supplement to a second nutritionist you probably shouldn't take it. Sorry Romero but in this day and age is pays to be skeptical...

While Major League Baseball never said J.C. Romero tried to cheat, the 33-year-old reliever who won the third and clinching games of the 2008 World Series has been ruled guilty of "negligence" and will be suspended for the first 50 games of the 2009 season.RomeroRomero

Romero said on Monday that he bought a supplement from a GNC store in Cherry Hill, N.J., last July. The Players Association had told players the supplement was acceptable, but now the Philadelphia Phillies left-hander will receive a suspension and lose $1.25 million.

"I still cannot see where I did something wrong," Romero said. "There is nothing that should take away from the rings of my teammates. I didn't cheat. I tried to follow the rules."

looks like this could go on...

Do we have to reverse the decision on the sig bet between you and Aussie?

I'd like to side with Romero on this one. When a formal document from your union tells you it's okay, I don't see the problem.

But his official charge was "negligence." I think that's a bit different that out-and-out cheating. There may be other evidence that supports that claim, though I do think it's a weird that negligence was placed in the CBA on this.

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jake_harv88 wrote:"There seems to be some confusion in testimony during the October arbitration hearing. According to Romero, Lien told him to get a second opinion; Romero took the supplement to a second nutritionist, who cleared it. In the hearing, Lien testified to that fact, but at another time he said he suggested Romero not take it. Romero in no way blames Lien."

If you have to take the supplement to a second nutritionist you probably shouldn't take it. Sorry Romero but in this day and age is pays to be skeptical...

This guy doesn't feel bad for romero...

This could be the case for all OTC supplements. You're suggesting that players take no supplements at all because there could be an unlisted ingredient in there. Romero (whom as a Twins fan I don't have fond memories) took a supplement that was approved by the MLB and twice checked with a nutritionist to make sure it was okay. I'm all for the crack down on steroids and HGH, but pretty soon players won't be able to take a multi-vitamin.

thats what bothers me it seems there is not defined line on what can be taken. Over such a long season and demand placed on the players, certain products which dont dont boost/give unfair advantages should be taken. I dont see the problem with taking product which makes players feel better with playing the sport they are paid and expected to play at that high of level. I just think baseball is getting too picky and have to be more defined if they are going to crack down on players. 1/3 of a season for testing positive for a substance which wasn't even listed on the product purchaced at a GMC is rediculous . He had no intention of cheating the season is a grind even more so for a RP. and for those saying anything about the playoffs relax

Romero was tested again on Oct. 1 before the start of the playoffs. The results were negative. He pitched eight times in the postseason and was the winning pitcher in Games 3 and 5 of the World Series, which the Phillies won over the Rays in five games.

Just for trying to compete without cheating and get 50 games is way out of line.

jake_harv88 wrote:"There seems to be some confusion in testimony during the October arbitration hearing. According to Romero, Lien told him to get a second opinion; Romero took the supplement to a second nutritionist, who cleared it. In the hearing, Lien testified to that fact, but at another time he said he suggested Romero not take it. Romero in no way blames Lien."

If you have to take the supplement to a second nutritionist you probably shouldn't take it. Sorry Romero but in this day and age is pays to be skeptical...

This guy doesn't feel bad for romero...

This could be the case for all OTC supplements. You're suggesting that players take no supplements at all because there could be an unlisted ingredient in there. Romero (whom as a Twins fan I don't have fond memories) took a supplement that was approved by the MLB and twice checked with a nutritionist to make sure it was okay. I'm all for the crack down on steroids and HGH, but pretty soon players won't be able to take a multi-vitamin.

Nope I'm saying that there are definitely specific widely used supplements in the MLB. Why not just stick to those? Why take the chance on something you dont know anything about?