That was extraordinary. I note the "whataboutery" of the interviewer: but isn't this all the fault of Western adventurism etc etc, and she responded well the specific human rights abuses we are discussing on are bing carried out on Arabs by other Arans, and basically we have bee doing this for 1400 years.

Quite a statement.

What she really did there was to expose the hypocrsiy of pan-Arabism. They turned their backs on the so-called umma or community of believers when they shut the door to refugees. They have very practical reasons for doing so, but that doesn't prevent them from being completely disingenuous.

She caused major loss of face there, and she's a woman. That really will be held against her.

That was extraordinary. I note the "whataboutery" of the interviewer: but isn't this all the fault of Western adventurism etc etc, and she responded well the specific human rights abuses we are discussing on are bing carried out on Arabs by other Arans, and basically we have bee doing this for 1400 years.

Quite a statement.

What she really did there was to expose the hypocrsiy of pan-Arabism. They turned their backs on the so-called umma or community of believers when they shut the door to refugees. They have very practical reasons for doing so, but that doesn't prevent them from being completely disingenuous.

She caused major loss of face there, and she's a woman. That really will be held against her.

ISIL have raped 7 year old girls. I am pretty convinced they do so not merely as weapon of war (ie to totally demoralise their captive populations) or to gratify their base passions, but because they hate and fear women in general. Wome are very good at seeing through male bluster and crazy, and men can feel reduced by a woman's calm contempt in a way they would never be by another man.

When Osama's compund was taken, one stray detail stayed in my mind: during the fire fight the men made sure to toss their "wives" in the direction of the oncoming bullets.

I've never been in a situation like this, but I do recall a bomb going off in Larne many years ago when I was Halloween shopping with my Mum and Dad. As the shock waves rolled up the street, dad threw both of us to the pavement, and covered us with his body.

I have no idea, my guess would have been Egypt a few years ago, but it could be Jordan too.

We all have to sift and parse. but the fact remains that daesh are no one's heroes and especially not Arab women's.

My own rejection of Western policy in the ME, and my awreness that Western powers will try and co-opt the brutal abuse of women by Daesh in the service of their own objectives doesn't mean I am going to say "Well of course, she's talking through her hat - and came straight from central casting in LA."

Her points are valid. The Arab States have their own garbage to take out, ad do we all.

I have no idea, my guess would have been Egypt a few years ago, but it could be Jordan too.

We all have to sift and parse. but the fact remains that daesh are no one's heroes and especially not Arab women's.

My own rejection of Western policy in the ME, and my awreness that Western powers will try and co-opt the brutal abuse of women by Daesh in the service of their own objectives doesn't mean I am going to say "Well of course, she's talking through her hat - and came straight from central casting in LA."

Her points are valid. The Arab States have their own garbage to take out, ad do we all.