In this segment, Jack and Joe really wanted to focus on what this means for the average patient. The following story came out just after our our interview and I think is a great addition to the discussion - this is the direction we would be headed under a more socialized system.

A new study released Thursday by the Fraser Institute estimates that 63,459 Canadians left the country for medical care last year. That's up about 40% from 2015.

According to Fraser Institute's yearly measurement of wait times, people waited an average of 10.6 weeks to see a specialist for treatment, which is four weeks longer than what physicians deemed reasonable.