DOMA On Last Legs? - Atheist Nexus2015-08-02T19:35:37Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/doma-on-last-legs?groupUrl=gayatheists&feed=yes&xn_auth=noBen Stein, as usual, is part…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-11:2182797:Comment:20991692012-11-11T19:39:50.961ZJames M. Martinhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/JamesMMartin
<p>Ben Stein, as usual, is part of the problem, not the solution. He mistakes early release of a few blacks from prison and eating collard greens with ham hocs as "making inroads" into a significant electoral block. He thinks that if he eats <em>menudo</em> now and then and drives around in a low-rider car he can simply gloss over the policy changes going to the heart of the election. The GOP party platform has little of interest to either minority, and since the party is packed with Solid…</p>
<p>Ben Stein, as usual, is part of the problem, not the solution. He mistakes early release of a few blacks from prison and eating collard greens with ham hocs as "making inroads" into a significant electoral block. He thinks that if he eats <em>menudo</em> now and then and drives around in a low-rider car he can simply gloss over the policy changes going to the heart of the election. The GOP party platform has little of interest to either minority, and since the party is packed with Solid South racists, all these folks need to do is look at the TV image of Haley Barbour to know that the GOP is not their party. They know that the programs Paul Ryan urged on them would mean the end to many entitlements, things that keep folks from starving. The choice, for them, was a no brainer. At this time, "black Republican" and "Hispanic Republican" are either oxymoronic or else euphemisms for Uncle Tom's and Aunt Tomasina's.</p>
<p></p> It's way too early to think t…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-11:2182797:Comment:20991482012-11-11T17:17:38.783ZDaniel Whttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Daniel57
<p>It's way too early to think the republican party is dead. I think people were saying the Democrat party was dead 10 years ago. A lot can happen in a few years. Disasters, fads, the rise of a new messiah (George Prescott Bush?), who knows? The pendulum swings back and forth. </p>
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<p>The Republicans will have to sort out how to market themselves to an expanded demographic. They did a really bad job of it this time, and spent too much time trying to chat and manipulate the…</p>
<p>It's way too early to think the republican party is dead. I think people were saying the Democrat party was dead 10 years ago. A lot can happen in a few years. Disasters, fads, the rise of a new messiah (George Prescott Bush?), who knows? The pendulum swings back and forth. </p>
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<p>The Republicans will have to sort out how to market themselves to an expanded demographic. They did a really bad job of it this time, and spent too much time trying to chat and manipulate the electorate, and pandering to the loonytune religious fanatics. But they, like the South, can still rise from the ashes.</p> If the Republican party is go…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-11:2182797:Comment:20989752012-11-11T16:02:08.224ZLoren Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LorenMiller
<p>If the Republican party is going to change, the base ideas they hawk will also have to change, that simple. If they can get back to the concept of limited government and spending without going overboard on social issues (which have NOTHING to do with limited government) - in other words, if they can get back to core Republican principles, maybe they have a chance.<br></br><br></br>I just caught a bit of Ben Stein on CBS Sunday Morning, claiming that the GOP has been dead before and risen from its…</p>
<p>If the Republican party is going to change, the base ideas they hawk will also have to change, that simple. If they can get back to the concept of limited government and spending without going overboard on social issues (which have NOTHING to do with limited government) - in other words, if they can get back to core Republican principles, maybe they have a chance.<br/><br/>I just caught a bit of Ben Stein on CBS Sunday Morning, claiming that the GOP has been dead before and risen from its ashes. Maybe so, but the circumstances were different, particularly in that they were never so far to the right before now, now were their platform and policies so radicalized. If they can't acknowledge that that rightward move was a massive mistake, they WILL render themselves irrelevant, and all the Faux Noise blathering and pundits pontificating won't change that.</p> They added it up, potentially…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-11:2182797:Comment:20990512012-11-11T15:55:24.669ZJames M. Martinhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/JamesMMartin
<p>They added it up, potentially 51% of all the population (women), 3 or 4 percent gay or lesbian or other, fifteen percent African-American, 15 to 20 percent Latino; they don't matter. The ones who would be voting for us have their minds made up and the others will vote for Obama. Now, they talk of courting the black and brown vote. Guess what, guys? Most of them don't think you have anything but ossified ideas and that your party is basically a bunch of angry racist white people, mainly…</p>
<p>They added it up, potentially 51% of all the population (women), 3 or 4 percent gay or lesbian or other, fifteen percent African-American, 15 to 20 percent Latino; they don't matter. The ones who would be voting for us have their minds made up and the others will vote for Obama. Now, they talk of courting the black and brown vote. Guess what, guys? Most of them don't think you have anything but ossified ideas and that your party is basically a bunch of angry racist white people, mainly angry white men.</p>
<p></p> Of course it's an economic is…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-11:2182797:Comment:20989652012-11-11T15:52:05.811ZLoren Millerhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/LorenMiller
<p>Of course it's an economic issue! I'd LOVE to hear some self-righteous dip try to tell me that there isn't advertising that targets the LGBT community ... and that there isn't a response to such targeting! This is the brand of naivete that lost the GOP this last election!</p>
<p>Of course it's an economic issue! I'd LOVE to hear some self-righteous dip try to tell me that there isn't advertising that targets the LGBT community ... and that there isn't a response to such targeting! This is the brand of naivete that lost the GOP this last election!</p> Sort of reminds me of a right…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-11:2182797:Comment:20989642012-11-11T15:49:29.390ZJames M. Martinhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/JamesMMartin
<p>Sort of reminds me of a right wing wag's comment on the not so comely daughter of an avowed communist professor back in the 60s: "You can tell she's a commie: the only way she could get a date is by public decree." In his interviews, Scalia comes off as a smug, self-righteous pomposity.</p>
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<p>Sort of reminds me of a right wing wag's comment on the not so comely daughter of an avowed communist professor back in the 60s: "You can tell she's a commie: the only way she could get a date is by public decree." In his interviews, Scalia comes off as a smug, self-righteous pomposity.</p>
<p></p> At the risk of raising the sp…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-11:2182797:Comment:20989632012-11-11T15:46:51.600ZJames M. Martinhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/JamesMMartin
<p>At the risk of raising the specter of Rush Limbaugh, I must say ditto! The blood began to run even before the RCC was born, in pre-Nicean times, when Constantine got rid of the bishops who were followers of Arius. That is, they accepted his "heresy" of believing (and preaching) that if Jesus was divine, He could never have "become flesh," not by Mary, not by anyone. I think their number was in the 70s. The other bishops agreed with Constantine and signed the Nicean Creed. The blood was…</p>
<p>At the risk of raising the specter of Rush Limbaugh, I must say ditto! The blood began to run even before the RCC was born, in pre-Nicean times, when Constantine got rid of the bishops who were followers of Arius. That is, they accepted his "heresy" of believing (and preaching) that if Jesus was divine, He could never have "become flesh," not by Mary, not by anyone. I think their number was in the 70s. The other bishops agreed with Constantine and signed the Nicean Creed. The blood was let during the Crusades, during the Witch Hunts, during the Inquisition, during the decimation of the Cathari and the Knights Templar. During the Nazi holocaust, by which time they learned to let blood by proxy.</p>
<p></p> I'm an optimist. I think the…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-11:2182797:Comment:20990482012-11-11T15:42:16.593ZDaniel Whttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Daniel57
<p>I'm an optimist. I think there is someone for every one. In scalia's case, someone with a fetish for aging gremlins. <img src="http://www.weirdasianews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/gremlin.jpg"/></p>
<p>I'm an optimist. I think there is someone for every one. In scalia's case, someone with a fetish for aging gremlins. <img src="http://www.weirdasianews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/gremlin.jpg"/></p> The fact that the RCC exists…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-11:2182797:Comment:20991202012-11-11T15:40:16.065ZDaniel Whttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/Daniel57
<p>The fact that the RCC exists today, is a sign that history is not taught and not considered important. Anyone who knows even part of the history of the RCC, even if they believe in the christian god, cannot believe that the catholic hierarchy in any way represents their god or carries his message. I have no doubt that, if they could get away with it, the RCC would call for a counter reformation again. Their lies continue, their attempts to increase power continue, and their hold on…</p>
<p>The fact that the RCC exists today, is a sign that history is not taught and not considered important. Anyone who knows even part of the history of the RCC, even if they believe in the christian god, cannot believe that the catholic hierarchy in any way represents their god or carries his message. I have no doubt that, if they could get away with it, the RCC would call for a counter reformation again. Their lies continue, their attempts to increase power continue, and their hold on ignorant and hateful minds continue.</p> The blood of Christ is the bl…tag:atheistnexus.org,2012-11-11:2182797:Comment:20988442012-11-11T03:24:50.398ZDavid Philip Norrishttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/DavidPhilipNorris
<p>The blood of Christ is the blood of the millions of innocent men, women and children whose lives have been stolen or destroyed in the pursuit of saving their immortal souls. It wasn't until 306 C.E. that clergy were forbidden from marrying, a fact which didn't prevent them from screwing around, prompting <span>Pope Benedict VIII to forbid descendents of priests from inheriting property in 1018 C.E. There's the real reason priests are required to remain celibate -- so that the Church can…</span></p>
<p>The blood of Christ is the blood of the millions of innocent men, women and children whose lives have been stolen or destroyed in the pursuit of saving their immortal souls. It wasn't until 306 C.E. that clergy were forbidden from marrying, a fact which didn't prevent them from screwing around, prompting <span>Pope Benedict VIII to forbid descendents of priests from inheriting property in 1018 C.E. There's the real reason priests are required to remain celibate -- so that the Church can horde money, land and treasure.</span></p>