Sheriff of York Brian Watson axed by Labour - UPDATED: Full statement from Cllr Watson

THE Sheriff of York has been dramatically axed by his party after 35 years.

Brian Watson, the city's longest-serving councillor, was first elected in 1979 but has been deselected by Labour ahead of next year's City of York Council elections.

Cllr Watson, who represents the city-centre ward of Guildhall, is a former Lord Mayor but was told by a selection panel that he lacked the "strong campaigning background, evidence of engagement with the community and political judgment" required.

He has lost an appeal against the decision and has now resigned from Labour, and will be an independent councillor for the next 12 months.

Cllr Watson called the claims "an insult" and would not be drawn on whether he would stand again as an independent candidate next May. The selection panel was made of three Labour party members, none of whom is a York councillor.

He said he hoped to keep his deselection private while he completed his year as Sheriff, to avoid distracting from civic events, but spoke out after the news was leaked to The Press.

Cllr Watson said he was criticised for not joining colleagues on canvassing drives on Saturdays, but said: "My Saturdays mornings are reserved for me to see people with problems that I have not managed to see during the week.

"This year, while being Sheriff, most Saturdays are taken up carrying out this role or catching up on domestic issues also, but obviously these things were not considered strong enough reasons to not go knocking on doors.

"Also the fact that in my interview I did not mention Government cuts to the council meant, in the panel's eyes, I was not “politically aware” and I also failed on my community involvement.

"After 35 years of being a councillor, both on City of York Council and North Yorkshire County Council I find all these an insult to myself, delivered by people from out of the city and one man from York who is not a councillor and has no idea of what goes on behind the scenes, but who I believe has been influenced by people who resent questioning of policies and actions of the group.

"It is strange because that should be what we are about but really that is not the case - the rule now is “to question is to dissent”. In this I admit I am guilty as charged!"

He added: "After all my years as a union rep and a councillor it is sad to depart from the group in these circumstances but I feel I have no alternative. To all the people of Guildhall Ward may I take this opportunity to say how grateful I am for their support over the years and I am still their elected Councillor and will still work just as strongly and dedicatedly on their behalf."

He thanked colleagues who supported his appeal but said he expected other Labour councillors to try to discredit his comments. He also said he feared Labour wanted to move someone else from a marginal seat to his safe seat.

Labour leader James Alexander said: “I’m sorry to hear of Brian’s decision having got on well with him for a number of years and having previously nominated him for an award for his long service.

“Standing for re-election is a process independent of the council Labour group that all Labour councillors have gone through and I supported Brian in his appeal following this decision of the party.

“I respect his decision and the Labour group will continue to focus on its priorities of jobs and homes for York residents. I look forward to continuing to work with Brian constructively."

Viv Kind, chair of York Labour Party, said: “It is very sad to that Cllr Brian Watson has decided to become an independent councillor after many years in the Labour Party. As one of York’s longest serving councillors, Brian has given years of dedicated service to the Labour group.

"The job of a councillor has become much more demanding in recent years, so the Labour Party’s selection process has to be rigorous for all candidates. Brian has used the Labour Party’s regional appeals process – with support from Cllr James Alexander – but sadly was not reselected.”

Cllr Brian Watson's full statement to The Press

It is true that I have not been selected for inclusion on the panel of prospective candidates for the next election.

Putting it bluntly the reasons quoted are that I do not go out “canvassing” as they do every Saturday. My Saturday mornings are reserved for me to see people with problems that I have not managed to see during the week. This year whilst being Sheriff most Saturdays are taken up carrying out this role or catching up on domestic issues also, but obviously these things were not considered strong enough reasons to not go knocking on doors. Also the fact that in my interview I did not mention Government cuts to the council meant, in the panels eyes, I was not “politically aware” and I also failed on my community involvement!

After 35 years of being a councillor, both on City of York Council and North Yorkshire County Council I find all these an insult to myself, delivered by people from out of the city and one man from York who is not a councillor and has no idea of what goes on behind the scenes, but who I believe has been influenced by people who resent questioning of policies and actions of the group.

It is strange because that should be what we are about but really that is not the case - the rule now is “to question is to dissent”. In this I admit I am guilty as charged!

I am indebted to a number councillors who gave me support in my appeal, along with the Guildhall branch and individual members. The Guildhall branch have gone to great lengths in their support. They were prepared to stand by me in what has been a very testing period, Branch members accompanied me to my appeal hearing in Wakefield despite short notice and having to rearrange previous arrangements.

You may ask why as this just come to light, well, we have been going through quite a lengthy appeal process, we have had little success and the appeals board have, as expected, backed up the findings of the original panel, but what we have found out is that the local party have not stuck to the procedure and we have called for this to be a point for investigation.

I did try and keep this quiet till after the civic party vacated their role as it could have been a talking point at every function we attended and that would not have been fair to anyone but it now has leaked out so I have had to make this statement.

Of course there will be a great coming together of some members of the group to discredit my comments, but that is to be expected, there will also be some who are pleased that my removal,( from a ward that will become a three member ward at the next election,) will have opened a door for some members to change wards and enable them to contest a safer seat, there will be an assortment of reasons and excuses quoted but mark my words it will happen (maybe that was a factor behind the original decision!).

After all my years as a union rep and a councillor it is sad to depart from the group in these circumstances but I feel I have no alternative. To all the people of Guildhall Ward may I take this opportunity to say how grateful I am for their support over the years and I am still their elected Councillor and will still work just as strongly and dedicatedly on their behalf."

Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!

If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.

The York Independent Party - now there's an idea!

This means Labour's majority is cut to just 1.
Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!
If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.
The York Independent Party - now there's an idea!Jiminy Cricket

We've all suffered from the arrogant, centralised decision making of this Council.

Labour dumped inexperienced - in some cases juvenile - Councillors on unsuspecting electors in 2011, This new breed just toe the party line.

Now we're told that they apparently spend their spare time delivering "its not our fault" leaflets; but rarely if ever are they seen working for and with residents in the wards that they are supposed to represent.

If experienced Councillors like Brian Watson has been culled, all we can look forward to now is more failed students looking to make a quick buck out of York residents before they find a proper job.

Most people in Acomb will never ever vote Labour in a local election again.

I hope that the electors of Guildhall take a similar stand.

We've all suffered from the arrogant, centralised decision making of this Council.
Labour dumped inexperienced - in some cases juvenile - Councillors on unsuspecting electors in 2011, This new breed just toe the party line.
Now we're told that they apparently spend their spare time delivering "its not our fault" leaflets; but rarely if ever are they seen working for and with residents in the wards that they are supposed to represent.
If experienced Councillors like Brian Watson has been culled, all we can look forward to now is more failed students looking to make a quick buck out of York residents before they find a proper job.
Most people in Acomb will never ever vote Labour in a local election again.
I hope that the electors of Guildhall take a similar stand.Oaklands Resident

Dash, When I read the headline I thought they meant the ridiculous outdated post of 'Sheriff of York', good grief we're not in the middle ages and I resent paying for these peacocks to strut their stuff at others expense.

Alas, just another example of the council being the council, is there no end to them.........

Dash, When I read the headline I thought they meant the ridiculous outdated post of 'Sheriff of York', good grief we're not in the middle ages and I resent paying for these peacocks to strut their stuff at others expense.
Alas, just another example of the council being the council, is there no end to them.........pault42

Cllr Watson has always been a friend to CC Ward and he is a gentleman. I had the pleasure of sharing a luncheon with him, and his Lady, two days ago. Stay Independent, Brian!! GOOD for you. I had planned to vote Independent in 2015 anyway. Well done for all your hard work.

Cllr Watson has always been a friend to CC Ward and he is a gentleman. I had the pleasure of sharing a luncheon with him, and his Lady, two days ago. Stay Independent, Brian!! GOOD for you. I had planned to vote Independent in 2015 anyway. Well done for all your hard work.RoseD

Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!

If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.

The York Independent Party - now there's an idea!

Yes! One more......ONE more.....who can that be.

[quote][p][bold]Jiminy Cricket[/bold] wrote:
This means Labour's majority is cut to just 1.
Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!
If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.
The York Independent Party - now there's an idea![/p][/quote]Yes! One more......ONE more.....who can that be.RoseD

Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!

If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.

The York Independent Party - now there's an idea!

So this is how Labour reward 35 years of service?

I'm one of those who can't wait for the next local elections and would welcome another defector if it brought about the downfall of this discredited administration.

[quote][p][bold]Jiminy Cricket[/bold] wrote:
This means Labour's majority is cut to just 1.
Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!
If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.
The York Independent Party - now there's an idea![/p][/quote]So this is how Labour reward 35 years of service?
I'm one of those who can't wait for the next local elections and would welcome another defector if it brought about the downfall of this discredited administration.AnotherPointofView

This just can't be right. I found it offensive, sad, and almost unbelievable, that a cornerstone of the Labour Party in York for decades could be dealt with in this fashion. Then I thought about the way this Labour cabinet have made the most crazy decisions, both financial and against the interest of York residents in the last couple of years, and I thought, " I'm not really surprised". To be honest, this is a decision that scrapes the barrel . I really don't know how Alexander and his cronies live with themselves.

This just can't be right. I found it offensive, sad, and almost unbelievable, that a cornerstone of the Labour Party in York for decades could be dealt with in this fashion. Then I thought about the way this Labour cabinet have made the most crazy decisions, both financial and against the interest of York residents in the last couple of years, and I thought, " I'm not really surprised". To be honest, this is a decision that scrapes the barrel . I really don't know how Alexander and his cronies live with themselves.yorkandproud

You go independent Brian, your a York man with 35 years service let the people decide not some bunch of cronies who don't even live in York.

And remember whatever some people say to your face is not always the same as they are saying behind your back, outsiders always get inside information before making decisions.

Nice one York Labour, true colours indeed.

You go independent Brian, your a York man with 35 years service let the people decide not some bunch of cronies who don't even live in York.
And remember whatever some people say to your face is not always the same as they are saying behind your back, outsiders always get inside information before making decisions.
Nice one York Labour, true colours indeed.YOUWILLDOASISAY

Quite disgraceful. Labour has behaved appallingly badly to Brian Watson. I believe this was the regional or national party, not the local party, many of whom must be wondering if they are next...

Quite disgraceful. Labour has behaved appallingly badly to Brian Watson. I believe this was the regional or national party, not the local party, many of whom must be wondering if they are next...Dave Taylor

Dave Taylor wrote:
Quite disgraceful. Labour has behaved appallingly badly to Brian Watson. I believe this was the regional or national party, not the local party, many of whom must be wondering if they are next...

If not the Local party, where did the national get their information.

[quote][p][bold]Dave Taylor[/bold] wrote:
Quite disgraceful. Labour has behaved appallingly badly to Brian Watson. I believe this was the regional or national party, not the local party, many of whom must be wondering if they are next...[/p][/quote]If not the Local party, where did the national get their information.eeoodares

Dave Taylor wrote:
Quite disgraceful. Labour has behaved appallingly badly to Brian Watson. I believe this was the regional or national party, not the local party, many of whom must be wondering if they are next...

If not the Local party, where did the national get their information.

Ask those who are being nice to Brian's face the answer is closer to home than some would like him to believe.

[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Dave Taylor[/bold] wrote:
Quite disgraceful. Labour has behaved appallingly badly to Brian Watson. I believe this was the regional or national party, not the local party, many of whom must be wondering if they are next...[/p][/quote]If not the Local party, where did the national get their information.[/p][/quote]Ask those who are being nice to Brian's face the answer is closer to home than some would like him to believe.YOUWILLDOASISAY

What-a-joke-they-are wrote:
Is that right? One more independent councillor could force a new cabinet? Or return to a democratic process?

Surely there is one more person with some principles!!!

No way will any of the Labour councillors become an independent by their own choice. Let's be honest he didn't choose to leave the Labour Party, he was removed. Sorry, but he would have quite happily carried on living on the gravy train. He just lost his ticket.

[quote][p][bold]What-a-joke-they-are[/bold] wrote:
Is that right? One more independent councillor could force a new cabinet? Or return to a democratic process?
Surely there is one more person with some principles!!![/p][/quote]No way will any of the Labour councillors become an independent by their own choice. Let's be honest he didn't choose to leave the Labour Party, he was removed. Sorry, but he would have quite happily carried on living on the gravy train. He just lost his ticket.pault42

Wow, Score muppet, you really are having to work hard, so far you've only been able to post negatives......... perhaps this shows the depth of feeling against YOU and your compatriots. Does the higher number of negatives show how much you know it's right? Go for it, the comments are what people read, not the scores anymore. The lower the number the better the comment :-)

Wow, Score muppet, you really are having to work hard, so far you've only been able to post negatives......... perhaps this shows the depth of feeling against YOU and your compatriots. Does the higher number of negatives show how much you know it's right? Go for it, the comments are what people read, not the scores anymore. The lower the number the better the comment :-)pault42

Shocking. A hard worker. Complete Gent. Respected and Trusted. How sad this is. Obviously Brian is too good for Labour and will be better off now as an independent.
Keep your head held high Brian. You are better than the rest of them rolled together.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE AND LET US HOPE THEY CONTINUE.

Shocking. A hard worker. Complete Gent. Respected and Trusted. How sad this is. Obviously Brian is too good for Labour and will be better off now as an independent.
Keep your head held high Brian. You are better than the rest of them rolled together.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE AND LET US HOPE THEY CONTINUE.Mitney

Oh dear me...! The Mark-Down Mongrels have really hit rock bottom by adjusting the supportive comment scores on the subject of their rejected former colleague.

Totally brainless but hey your the ones who are out knocking on doors pleading for support so early in the day, wonder why.

Crack on Woof, Woof.

Who is next, really who's getting talked about behind their backs now, because there will be someone, the current weak-link has gone, a new weak-link gets selected and all smiles as the knife goes in and how sorry they will be because your a sterling chap and we did all we could.

Just remember the next time one of the so called leadership pats you on the back and says well done, it might be just be a sign that your time is up.

Bet your all being told that you now have a great team, an effective team, a winning team but one of you is now the weakest link because Brian has gone and thats a vacancy.

A leader with any leadership skill would never have allowed this to happen but weak leaders need to keep the troops in line, who's next....?.

Oh dear me...! The Mark-Down Mongrels have really hit rock bottom by adjusting the supportive comment scores on the subject of their rejected former colleague.
Totally brainless but hey your the ones who are out knocking on doors pleading for support so early in the day, wonder why.
Crack on Woof, Woof.
Who is next, really who's getting talked about behind their backs now, because there will be someone, the current weak-link has gone, a new weak-link gets selected and all smiles as the knife goes in and how sorry they will be because your a sterling chap and we did all we could.
Just remember the next time one of the so called leadership pats you on the back and says well done, it might be just be a sign that your time is up.
Bet your all being told that you now have a great team, an effective team, a winning team but one of you is now the weakest link because Brian has gone and thats a vacancy.
A leader with any leadership skill would never have allowed this to happen but weak leaders need to keep the troops in line, who's next....?.YOUWILLDOASISAY

Met Brian Watson a few times over the years while living in Guildhall. Always found him a courteous man and willing to listen sometimes to views he didn't agree with.

A great shame that long service so shoddily treated

Met Brian Watson a few times over the years while living in Guildhall. Always found him a courteous man and willing to listen sometimes to views he didn't agree with.
A great shame that long service so shoddily treatedgibarch

geoff tibletts wrote:
York deserves better than this bunch of nutcases running it there can't be a council in the uk that attracts such negative comments

Yes, they even mark themselves down without even realising it. Idiots.

[quote][p][bold]geoff tibletts[/bold] wrote:
York deserves better than this bunch of nutcases running it there can't be a council in the uk that attracts such negative comments[/p][/quote]Yes, they even mark themselves down without even realising it. Idiots.bolero

pault42 wrote:
Dash, When I read the headline I thought they meant the ridiculous outdated post of 'Sheriff of York', good grief we're not in the middle ages and I resent paying for these peacocks to strut their stuff at others expense.

Alas, just another example of the council being the council, is there no end to them.........

I note once again some one clicking the down button, I am glad we don't use this kind of system at Election time.

[quote][p][bold]pault42[/bold] wrote:
Dash, When I read the headline I thought they meant the ridiculous outdated post of 'Sheriff of York', good grief we're not in the middle ages and I resent paying for these peacocks to strut their stuff at others expense.
Alas, just another example of the council being the council, is there no end to them.........[/p][/quote]I note once again some one clicking the down button, I am glad we don't use this kind of system at Election time.Yorkie41

bill bailey wrote:
MP BAILEY have now got sweaty armpits could be his nice little earner is going up the Ouse , Alexander back to Pound Shop. Whatever next, ?

Nice one bill ha ha.

[quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote:
MP BAILEY have now got sweaty armpits could be his nice little earner is going up the Ouse , Alexander back to Pound Shop. Whatever next, ?[/p][/quote]Nice one bill ha ha.Yorkie41

I think that the remaining Labour cabinet members that see themselves as "senior members" need to step back and have a long hard think. They need to ask themselves if they really think they should stand in the next election. , Gone are the days when people faithfully vote Labour. People vote for people these days, and it's fair to say that the sheer arrogance from some Cabinet members has made them unelectable. You know who you are.

I think that the remaining Labour cabinet members that see themselves as "senior members" need to step back and have a long hard think. They need to ask themselves if they really think they should stand in the next election. , Gone are the days when people faithfully vote Labour. People vote for people these days, and it's fair to say that the sheer arrogance from some Cabinet members has made them unelectable. You know who you are.Guthred

Since the early 1970's when the Labour Government introduced payment of councillors we have seen national party politics taking over from local representation. Councillors need to clearly understand who they are representing: a national party unrepresentative of local issues, or the actual people who voted for them. Are we a democracy or a sham?
For years we have seen a gradual decline in the interest by ordinary people politics and a feeling that people can do nothing to improve their lot because politics has failed them. It's time to ban party politics in local government and start representing the people properly. The present system in no better than a dictatoriship and the scheming bureaucratic Labour Party are so clearly the modern day Facists of our age in so many areas of our daily lives.

Since the early 1970's when the Labour Government introduced payment of councillors we have seen national party politics taking over from local representation. Councillors need to clearly understand who they are representing: a national party unrepresentative of local issues, or the actual people who voted for them. Are we a democracy or a sham?
For years we have seen a gradual decline in the interest by ordinary people politics and a feeling that people can do nothing to improve their lot because politics has failed them. It's time to ban party politics in local government and start representing the people properly. The present system in no better than a dictatoriship and the scheming bureaucratic Labour Party are so clearly the modern day Facists of our age in so many areas of our daily lives.Saracen

Saracen wrote:
Since the early 1970's when the Labour Government introduced payment of councillors we have seen national party politics taking over from local representation. Councillors need to clearly understand who they are representing: a national party unrepresentative of local issues, or the actual people who voted for them. Are we a democracy or a sham?
For years we have seen a gradual decline in the interest by ordinary people politics and a feeling that people can do nothing to improve their lot because politics has failed them. It's time to ban party politics in local government and start representing the people properly. The present system in no better than a dictatoriship and the scheming bureaucratic Labour Party are so clearly the modern day Facists of our age in so many areas of our daily lives.

I wish you were wrong but I can't find a fault in your statement

[quote][p][bold]Saracen[/bold] wrote:
Since the early 1970's when the Labour Government introduced payment of councillors we have seen national party politics taking over from local representation. Councillors need to clearly understand who they are representing: a national party unrepresentative of local issues, or the actual people who voted for them. Are we a democracy or a sham?
For years we have seen a gradual decline in the interest by ordinary people politics and a feeling that people can do nothing to improve their lot because politics has failed them. It's time to ban party politics in local government and start representing the people properly. The present system in no better than a dictatoriship and the scheming bureaucratic Labour Party are so clearly the modern day Facists of our age in so many areas of our daily lives.[/p][/quote]I wish you were wrong but I can't find a fault in your statementSilver

pault42 wrote:
Dash, When I read the headline I thought they meant the ridiculous outdated post of 'Sheriff of York', good grief we're not in the middle ages and I resent paying for these peacocks to strut their stuff at others expense.

Alas, just another example of the council being the council, is there no end to them.........

The High Sheriffs take on the office for one year, they pay for everything out of their own pockets, they receive no remuneration and no part of the expense of a High Sheriff’s year falls on the public purse.

[quote][p][bold]pault42[/bold] wrote:
Dash, When I read the headline I thought they meant the ridiculous outdated post of 'Sheriff of York', good grief we're not in the middle ages and I resent paying for these peacocks to strut their stuff at others expense.
Alas, just another example of the council being the council, is there no end to them.........[/p][/quote]The High Sheriffs take on the office for one year, they pay for everything out of their own pockets, they receive no remuneration and no part of the expense of a High Sheriff’s year falls on the public purse.quandaryqueen

But... having gone off on a tangent as per the office of High Sheriff.... back to the main subject matter..... Each time Labour have been in power in this beautiful city everything goes down the plughole.... I am still baffled as to how come York citizens can have such a short memory, Labour in. York deteriorates... Labour out York picks up again...
I wonder how long it will take before this comment gets 100+ 'thumbs down'

But... having gone off on a tangent as per the office of High Sheriff.... back to the main subject matter..... Each time Labour have been in power in this beautiful city everything goes down the plughole.... I am still baffled as to how come York citizens can have such a short memory, Labour in. York deteriorates... Labour out York picks up again...
I wonder how long it will take before this comment gets 100+ 'thumbs down'quandaryqueen

I just don't get this at all. With only a year to go, why dump one of your most respected and well-liked councillors? There surely must be something going on that we haven't been told about and either way, Labour have just put the final nail in their own coffin. Councillor Watson (I don't know they guy, by the way) appears to have been the only one left of a dying breed where he could actually have helped Labour to retain some kind of credibility in York. That chance has now gone. I sincerely hope he blows the whistle on all this. It's appalling.

I just don't get this at all. With only a year to go, why dump one of your most respected and well-liked councillors? There surely must be something going on that we haven't been told about and either way, Labour have just put the final nail in their own coffin. Councillor Watson (I don't know they guy, by the way) appears to have been the only one left of a dying breed where he could actually have helped Labour to retain some kind of credibility in York. That chance has now gone. I sincerely hope he blows the whistle on all this. It's appalling.Fulfordian

Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!

If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.

The York Independent Party - now there's an idea!

Bit disappointed that my comment has only got a score of -38!

I judge the mark-down mongrel's work on here as a badge of honour, the lower the score, the more it has hit them where it hurts!

[quote][p][bold]Jiminy Cricket[/bold] wrote:
This means Labour's majority is cut to just 1.
Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!
If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.
The York Independent Party - now there's an idea![/p][/quote]Bit disappointed that my comment has only got a score of -38!
I judge the mark-down mongrel's work on here as a badge of honour, the lower the score, the more it has hit them where it hurts!Jiminy Cricket

pault42 wrote:
Dash, When I read the headline I thought they meant the ridiculous outdated post of 'Sheriff of York', good grief we're not in the middle ages and I resent paying for these peacocks to strut their stuff at others expense.

Alas, just another example of the council being the council, is there no end to them.........

The High Sheriffs take on the office for one year, they pay for everything out of their own pockets, they receive no remuneration and no part of the expense of a High Sheriff’s year falls on the public purse.

You may be confusing the Sheriff of York with the High Sheriff of North Yorkshire...........
.very sorry to see Brian exiting Labour on this note.

[quote][p][bold]quandaryqueen[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]pault42[/bold] wrote:
Dash, When I read the headline I thought they meant the ridiculous outdated post of 'Sheriff of York', good grief we're not in the middle ages and I resent paying for these peacocks to strut their stuff at others expense.
Alas, just another example of the council being the council, is there no end to them.........[/p][/quote]The High Sheriffs take on the office for one year, they pay for everything out of their own pockets, they receive no remuneration and no part of the expense of a High Sheriff’s year falls on the public purse.[/p][/quote]You may be confusing the Sheriff of York with the High Sheriff of North Yorkshire...........
.very sorry to see Brian exiting Labour on this note.pedalling paul

The people who comment on here forget what it was like under the Liberals, the City was stagnant and broke.
I must say that Brian is probably the best ward councillor in York. Brian, stand as an Independent you’ll walk it

The people who comment on here forget what it was like under the Liberals, the City was stagnant and broke.
I must say that Brian is probably the best ward councillor in York. Brian, stand as an Independent you’ll walk itGBTYZ

Dave Taylor wrote:
Quite disgraceful. Labour has behaved appallingly badly to Brian Watson. I believe this was the regional or national party, not the local party, many of whom must be wondering if they are next...

That won't be the case, the region played a part in the appeal process but the decision will have been entirely local to get that far and even the input to the region for the appeal will have been massively local. As for the national party, we know they are pretyy useless but even Ed Milliband and co have better things to do than say 'now then, Brian Watson in York, what do we reckon?'

[quote][p][bold]Dave Taylor[/bold] wrote:
Quite disgraceful. Labour has behaved appallingly badly to Brian Watson. I believe this was the regional or national party, not the local party, many of whom must be wondering if they are next...[/p][/quote]That won't be the case, the region played a part in the appeal process but the decision will have been entirely local to get that far and even the input to the region for the appeal will have been massively local. As for the national party, we know they are pretyy useless but even Ed Milliband and co have better things to do than say 'now then, Brian Watson in York, what do we reckon?'Micklegate

GBTYZ wrote:
The people who comment on here forget what it was like under the Liberals, the City was stagnant and broke.
I must say that Brian is probably the best ward councillor in York. Brian, stand as an Independent you’ll walk it

The city is still broke and in danger of ruin under this lot

[quote][p][bold]GBTYZ[/bold] wrote:
The people who comment on here forget what it was like under the Liberals, the City was stagnant and broke.
I must say that Brian is probably the best ward councillor in York. Brian, stand as an Independent you’ll walk it[/p][/quote]The city is still broke and in danger of ruin under this lotcourier46

pault42 wrote:
Wow, Score muppet, you really are having to work hard, so far you've only been able to post negatives......... perhaps this shows the depth of feeling against YOU and your compatriots. Does the higher number of negatives show how much you know it's right? Go for it, the comments are what people read, not the scores anymore. The lower the number the better the comment :-)

'Mark Down Muppet' - perhaps the Press would be better turning them scoring banners off. After all, it is abuse.

As far as BW goes - it's all very strange. We live in an era where UKIP claim to be more left-wing than labour. Someone's had it in for him.

[quote][p][bold]pault42[/bold] wrote:
Wow, Score muppet, you really are having to work hard, so far you've only been able to post negatives......... perhaps this shows the depth of feeling against YOU and your compatriots. Does the higher number of negatives show how much you know it's right? Go for it, the comments are what people read, not the scores anymore. The lower the number the better the comment :-)[/p][/quote]'Mark Down Muppet' - perhaps the Press would be better turning them scoring banners off. After all, it is abuse.
As far as BW goes - it's all very strange. We live in an era where UKIP claim to be more left-wing than labour. Someone's had it in for him.ReginaldBiscuit

when I was a young lad our local w.m.c. in town {area} had a con/s committee .the club ran fine .then some nice labour boys got in then the club whent down hill. what do they say about history .

when I was a young lad our local w.m.c. in town {area} had a con/s committee .the club ran fine .then some nice labour boys got in then the club whent down hill. what do they say about history .yourkidding

Stand as an independent Brian and listen to what your constituents want for the good of the City .. Not tow the line due to political pressure or political ego or ambition

Politics should be removed from local councils and run by people for the people

Should have been Simpson- Lang
Stand as an independent Brian and listen to what your constituents want for the good of the City .. Not tow the line due to political pressure or political ego or ambition
Politics should be removed from local councils and run by people for the peopleMinstermummy

Well Just one year today The Labour Council will have gone in York. Just 364 days to polling day :)

Mind you I don't think we will be rejoicing when we remember that the Lib Dems supported by the Tories were as popular as Jimmy Alexander and his yes men last time they were in - they were so popular their leader lost his seat.

Still surely anything will be better than the stab in the back brigade lead by Jimmy no mates.

Well Just one year today The Labour Council will have gone in York. Just 364 days to polling day :)
Mind you I don't think we will be rejoicing when we remember that the Lib Dems supported by the Tories were as popular as Jimmy Alexander and his yes men last time they were in - they were so popular their leader lost his seat.
Still surely anything will be better than the stab in the back brigade lead by Jimmy no mates.Dr Brian

Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!

If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.

The York Independent Party - now there's an idea!

AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in York

[quote][p][bold]Jiminy Cricket[/bold] wrote:
This means Labour's majority is cut to just 1.
Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!
If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.
The York Independent Party - now there's an idea![/p][/quote]AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in YorkY.I.P.

Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!

If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.

The York Independent Party - now there's an idea!

AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in York

Absolutely! I think people are sick of the party politics but unless the Independents join forces they won't be able to take control and get rid of these parasites. Without the burden of party politics an Independent Party might even be able to root out the corrupt officers that really run this city

[quote][p][bold]Y.I.P.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jiminy Cricket[/bold] wrote:
This means Labour's majority is cut to just 1.
Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!
If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.
The York Independent Party - now there's an idea![/p][/quote]AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in York[/p][/quote]Absolutely! I think people are sick of the party politics but unless the Independents join forces they won't be able to take control and get rid of these parasites. Without the burden of party politics an Independent Party might even be able to root out the corrupt officers that really run this cityJiminy Cricket

Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!

If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.

The York Independent Party - now there's an idea!

AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in York

Absolutely! I think people are sick of the party politics but unless the Independents join forces they won't be able to take control and get rid of these parasites. Without the burden of party politics an Independent Party might even be able to root out the corrupt officers that really run this city

Change is coming standby for a fight. Labour Conservatives and the other minor parties!!! Independent councillors WILL be elected next Year,Havent forgot you Mark!

[quote][p][bold]Jiminy Cricket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Y.I.P.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jiminy Cricket[/bold] wrote:
This means Labour's majority is cut to just 1.
Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!
If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.
The York Independent Party - now there's an idea![/p][/quote]AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in York[/p][/quote]Absolutely! I think people are sick of the party politics but unless the Independents join forces they won't be able to take control and get rid of these parasites. Without the burden of party politics an Independent Party might even be able to root out the corrupt officers that really run this city[/p][/quote]Change is coming standby for a fight. Labour Conservatives and the other minor parties!!! Independent councillors WILL be elected next Year,Havent forgot you Mark!Y.I.P.

Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!

If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.

The York Independent Party - now there's an idea!

AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in York

Absolutely! I think people are sick of the party politics but unless the Independents join forces they won't be able to take control and get rid of these parasites. Without the burden of party politics an Independent Party might even be able to root out the corrupt officers that really run this city

Change is coming standby for a fight. Labour Conservatives and the other minor parties!!! Independent councillors WILL be elected next Year,Havent forgot you Mark!

Great! Where do I sign up?!!

[quote][p][bold]Y.I.P.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jiminy Cricket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Y.I.P.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jiminy Cricket[/bold] wrote:
This means Labour's majority is cut to just 1.
Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!
If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.
The York Independent Party - now there's an idea![/p][/quote]AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in York[/p][/quote]Absolutely! I think people are sick of the party politics but unless the Independents join forces they won't be able to take control and get rid of these parasites. Without the burden of party politics an Independent Party might even be able to root out the corrupt officers that really run this city[/p][/quote]Change is coming standby for a fight. Labour Conservatives and the other minor parties!!! Independent councillors WILL be elected next Year,Havent forgot you Mark![/p][/quote]Great! Where do I sign up?!!Jiminy Cricket

asd wrote:
Labour in York is a disgrace, Labour national should investigate these set of clowns. Hope there are lots of independent as I will never vote for Torys or lieing Libs.

Inclined to agree but we would need to watch very carefully where they were coming from.

[quote][p][bold]asd[/bold] wrote:
Labour in York is a disgrace, Labour national should investigate these set of clowns. Hope there are lots of independent as I will never vote for Torys or lieing Libs.[/p][/quote]Inclined to agree but we would need to watch very carefully where they were coming from.bolero

Yet another reason why party politics has no place in local government! It does not matter which party, they are all an absolute shower . To whom do our local politicians owe their first loyalty , it is party or the people of York ? It cannot in my opinion be both.

Yet another reason why party politics has no place in local government! It does not matter which party, they are all an absolute shower . To whom do our local politicians owe their first loyalty , it is party or the people of York ? It cannot in my opinion be both.perplexed

It's a bit rich Labour's selection committee telling Mr Watson he lacks "evidence of engagement with the community". Like they do, right? They didn't ask me, and Cllr Watson has been representing me and others in Guildhall for years. I'd have told them.

But Cllr Watson needn't worry. It's probably quite a shrewd move for him to identify himself as an Independent before the Labour group crashes and burns at the next local election...

It's a bit rich Labour's selection committee telling Mr Watson he lacks "evidence of engagement with the community". Like they do, right? They didn't ask me, and Cllr Watson has been representing me and others in Guildhall for years. I'd have told them.
But Cllr Watson needn't worry. It's probably quite a shrewd move for him to identify himself as an Independent before the Labour group crashes and burns at the next local election...Ignatius Lumpopo

To accuse Brian Watson of being disengaged and not politically aware shows how remote this current Labour administration has become. It also shows that if Alexander supported Brian Watson at the appeal then he has absolutely no clout at regional level, let alone national level.

Regardless of anyone's political views there is no denying that Brian Watson has served the electorate of the Guildhall ward in an exemplary manner. He IS politcally astute because he knows there are occasions when dictat from Labour HQ has to be over-ridden as local circumstances are in the best interest of the ward and, ultimately the city. That is the approach that maintains the support of the electorate and, ultimately, keeps parties in power. What is sad is that there are other Councillors who have already evidenced their loyalty is to support party dogma rather than act in the best interests of this fine city. At the moment party politics (whether it be Labour, Conservative or Liberal) at all tiers of government does not command the respect of the electorate. I hope that when next year's elections come round every candidate is asked the question "where there is a conflict of interest between what your national party advocates and what the electorate of this ward want which will receive your priority - party or ward?" Let's see what answers they come up with!

To accuse Brian Watson of being disengaged and not politically aware shows how remote this current Labour administration has become. It also shows that if Alexander supported Brian Watson at the appeal then he has absolutely no clout at regional level, let alone national level.
Regardless of anyone's political views there is no denying that Brian Watson has served the electorate of the Guildhall ward in an exemplary manner. He IS politcally astute because he knows there are occasions when dictat from Labour HQ has to be over-ridden as local circumstances are in the best interest of the ward and, ultimately the city. That is the approach that maintains the support of the electorate and, ultimately, keeps parties in power. What is sad is that there are other Councillors who have already evidenced their loyalty is to support party dogma rather than act in the best interests of this fine city. At the moment party politics (whether it be Labour, Conservative or Liberal) at all tiers of government does not command the respect of the electorate. I hope that when next year's elections come round every candidate is asked the question "where there is a conflict of interest between what your national party advocates and what the electorate of this ward want which will receive your priority - party or ward?" Let's see what answers they come up with!Platform3

Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!

If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.

The York Independent Party - now there's an idea!

AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in York

Fantastic! I've been contemplating the same for some months. We need to remove party politics from local issues. We need to grasp our city back from these political careerists.

[quote][p][bold]Y.I.P.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jiminy Cricket[/bold] wrote:
This means Labour's majority is cut to just 1.
Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!
If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.
The York Independent Party - now there's an idea![/p][/quote]AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in York[/p][/quote]Fantastic! I've been contemplating the same for some months. We need to remove party politics from local issues. We need to grasp our city back from these political careerists.gazlan

Jonothon wrote:
Good on ya Brian. It reminds me of the expression &quot;a ship leaving a sinking rat" Bunch of Blairite grovellers all of 'em.

Ha, ha - Blairite?

They're a bunch of fabian marxists!

This is the action of their totalitarian regime - punish all dissenters.... !!!

I despise Labour, but, having met Brian Watson, and heard from others who are not from his party who know him, I can say that he is unlike JA, TSL, DM, SC and co. He is not arrogant, ignorant and self-serving. He is a York man, for York, and for that I respect him.

Good luck Brian, you are better than your comrades - they are traitors of York!

[quote][p][bold]Jonothon[/bold] wrote:
Good on ya Brian. It reminds me of the expression "a ship leaving a sinking rat" Bunch of Blairite grovellers all of 'em.[/p][/quote]Ha, ha - Blairite?
They're a bunch of fabian marxists!
This is the action of their totalitarian regime - punish all dissenters.... !!!
I despise Labour, but, having met Brian Watson, and heard from others who are not from his party who know him, I can say that he is unlike JA, TSL, DM, SC and co. He is not arrogant, ignorant and self-serving. He is a York man, for York, and for that I respect him.
Good luck Brian, you are better than your comrades - they are traitors of York!Badgers Drift

Alexander is a judas. I do not believe his support of Bria Watson was genuine.

I think it was yet another PR stunt from Alexander, designed just like the calcellation of Lendal Bodge, to save his and his party's bacon.

His tactics is transparent, totally false, put the blame elsewhere, and take all the credit.

He must go, along with his motley crew!

Alexander is a judas. I do not believe his support of Bria Watson was genuine.
I think it was yet another PR stunt from Alexander, designed just like the calcellation of Lendal Bodge, to save his and his party's bacon.
His tactics is transparent, totally false, put the blame elsewhere, and take all the credit.
He must go, along with his motley crew!Badgers Drift

How ironic, a respected Labour councillor (rare indeed) is dumped on by his party and gets the kind of support his party can only dream of.

Lets face it if they had been sailors wrecked at sea Brian would have been the main course but now the cupboard is bare.

Who's on the menu tonight.....?.

How ironic, a respected Labour councillor (rare indeed) is dumped on by his party and gets the kind of support his party can only dream of.
Lets face it if they had been sailors wrecked at sea Brian would have been the main course but now the cupboard is bare.
Who's on the menu tonight.....?.YOUWILLDOASISAY

pault42 wrote: Dash, When I read the headline I thought they meant the ridiculous outdated post of 'Sheriff of York', good grief we're not in the middle ages and I resent paying for these peacocks to strut their stuff at others expense. Alas, just another example of the council being the council, is there no end to them.........

I note once again some one clicking the down button, I am glad we don't use this kind of system at Election time.

This is exactly the type of system York Council are building.

It is what they are spending £10m on over the next five years.

It's what their Bloomberg Mayor's Challenge entry is all about.

A system of engagement using a social media type website just for citizens.

A system that will be controlled and manipulated, pretending that the policies arising from the 'ideas' are what York citizens want.

DO NOT TRUST IT, OR CYC!

[quote][p][bold]Yorkie41[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]pault42[/bold] wrote: Dash, When I read the headline I thought they meant the ridiculous outdated post of 'Sheriff of York', good grief we're not in the middle ages and I resent paying for these peacocks to strut their stuff at others expense. Alas, just another example of the council being the council, is there no end to them.........[/p][/quote]I note once again some one clicking the down button, I am glad we don't use this kind of system at Election time.[/p][/quote]This is exactly the type of system York Council are building.
It is what they are spending £10m on over the next five years.
It's what their Bloomberg Mayor's Challenge entry is all about.
A system of engagement using a social media type website just for citizens.
A system that will be controlled and manipulated, pretending that the policies arising from the 'ideas' are what York citizens want.
DO NOT TRUST IT, OR CYC!Badgers Drift

Brian Watson has been an excellent LOCAL YORK councillor and I urge him and others to join us at YORK INDEPENDENT PARTY Y.I.P. and to fight for a better York Next year . As an opposition councillor in the early nineties I had the greatest respect for Brians fair and sensible approach to Yorks needs.
Standby York For an upset next year.

Brian Watson has been an excellent LOCAL YORK councillor and I urge him and others to join us at YORK INDEPENDENT PARTY Y.I.P. and to fight for a better York Next year . As an opposition councillor in the early nineties I had the greatest respect for Brians fair and sensible approach to Yorks needs.
Standby York For an upset next year.Y.I.P.

Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!

If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.

The York Independent Party - now there's an idea!

AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in York

Absolutely! I think people are sick of the party politics but unless the Independents join forces they won't be able to take control and get rid of these parasites. Without the burden of party politics an Independent Party might even be able to root out the corrupt officers that really run this city

Change is coming standby for a fight. Labour Conservatives and the other minor parties!!! Independent councillors WILL be elected next Year,Havent forgot you Mark!

Great! Where do I sign up?!!

You will soon get to know about Y.I.P.Hope to grow quickly before next May!

[quote][p][bold]Jiminy Cricket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Y.I.P.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jiminy Cricket[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Y.I.P.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jiminy Cricket[/bold] wrote:
This means Labour's majority is cut to just 1.
Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!
If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.
The York Independent Party - now there's an idea![/p][/quote]AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in York[/p][/quote]Absolutely! I think people are sick of the party politics but unless the Independents join forces they won't be able to take control and get rid of these parasites. Without the burden of party politics an Independent Party might even be able to root out the corrupt officers that really run this city[/p][/quote]Change is coming standby for a fight. Labour Conservatives and the other minor parties!!! Independent councillors WILL be elected next Year,Havent forgot you Mark![/p][/quote]Great! Where do I sign up?!![/p][/quote]You will soon get to know about Y.I.P.Hope to grow quickly before next May!Y.I.P.

GBTYZ wrote:
The people who comment on here forget what it was like under the Liberals, the City was stagnant and broke.
I must say that Brian is probably the best ward councillor in York. Brian, stand as an Independent you’ll walk it

Agree. Brian is Councillor Fitzpatrick's councillor. If she were to show appreciation of his work by solidarity, following his example and becoming an independent , the message might get through.

[quote][p][bold]GBTYZ[/bold] wrote:
The people who comment on here forget what it was like under the Liberals, the City was stagnant and broke.
I must say that Brian is probably the best ward councillor in York. Brian, stand as an Independent you’ll walk it[/p][/quote]Agree. Brian is Councillor Fitzpatrick's councillor. If she were to show appreciation of his work by solidarity, following his example and becoming an independent , the message might get through.Cryptic

Hopefully, the shuffling of candidates will be a waste of time, and Labour will be decimated at the ballot box!

[quote][p][bold]acomblass[/bold] wrote:
The latest betting - Potter moves to Guildhall with Scott and Looker. Williams moves to Heworth vacated by Potter - musical chairs to get safe seats.[/p][/quote]Yes, I've heard similar rumours.
Also, that Semlyen and Horton are standing down - hurrah for that!
Hopefully, the shuffling of candidates will be a waste of time, and Labour will be decimated at the ballot box!Badgers Drift

Another shot in the foot for the backstabbing, smile to your face 'York labour council'. Thirty five years of service to end like this is appalling, are the people responsible who were on the interview to be named, they should be, or more than likely as par for the course with labour, they will remain a secret, If I were Mr Watson I would not trust any of them.

Another shot in the foot for the backstabbing, smile to your face 'York labour council'. Thirty five years of service to end like this is appalling, are the people responsible who were on the interview to be named, they should be, or more than likely as par for the course with labour, they will remain a secret, If I were Mr Watson I would not trust any of them.bravo whisky

James Alexander quote “I respect his decision and the Labour group will continue to focus on its priorities of jobs and homes for York residents"

YOU - Mr Alexander and cronies - should be concentrating on ALL Priorities for York Residents - Not just your chosen Pet Projects!

Never mind - come 2015 NONE of you will be in power hopefully!

Roll on York Independent Party! I'll vote for that...

James Alexander quote “I respect his decision and the Labour group will continue to focus on its priorities of jobs and homes for York residents"
YOU - Mr Alexander and cronies - should be concentrating on ALL Priorities for York Residents - Not just your chosen Pet Projects!
Never mind - come 2015 NONE of you will be in power hopefully!
Roll on York Independent Party! I'll vote for that...Kelvar

bravo whisky wrote:
Another shot in the foot for the backstabbing, smile to your face 'York labour council'. Thirty five years of service to end like this is appalling, are the people responsible who were on the interview to be named, they should be, or more than likely as par for the course with labour, they will remain a secret, If I were Mr Watson I would not trust any of them.

Go Independent Brian, and tell the world exactly what has occured with this incompetent bunch of people. Having said that, why have you stayed with a team of total numbnuts, who are in the process of ruining our City, from every aspect. I have known you for many years, as an aero engineer when I was on Flight Test with the Buccaneer, and as my local council representative, stay with it, the truth will out.

[quote][p][bold]bravo whisky[/bold] wrote:
Another shot in the foot for the backstabbing, smile to your face 'York labour council'. Thirty five years of service to end like this is appalling, are the people responsible who were on the interview to be named, they should be, or more than likely as par for the course with labour, they will remain a secret, If I were Mr Watson I would not trust any of them.[/p][/quote]Go Independent Brian, and tell the world exactly what has occured with this incompetent bunch of people. Having said that, why have you stayed with a team of total numbnuts, who are in the process of ruining our City, from every aspect. I have known you for many years, as an aero engineer when I was on Flight Test with the Buccaneer, and as my local council representative, stay with it, the truth will out.jumbojet

Jonothon wrote: Good on ya Brian. It reminds me of the expression &quot;a ship leaving a sinking rat" Bunch of Blairite grovellers all of 'em.

Ha, ha - Blairite? They're a bunch of fabian marxists! This is the action of their totalitarian regime - punish all dissenters.... !!! I despise Labour, but, having met Brian Watson, and heard from others who are not from his party who know him, I can say that he is unlike JA, TSL, DM, SC and co. He is not arrogant, ignorant and self-serving. He is a York man, for York, and for that I respect him. Good luck Brian, you are better than your comrades - they are traitors of York!

Very pleased to see that this comment has a legitimate score of +15 before being invalidated by the score hacking retard.

[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jonothon[/bold] wrote: Good on ya Brian. It reminds me of the expression "a ship leaving a sinking rat" Bunch of Blairite grovellers all of 'em.[/p][/quote]Ha, ha - Blairite? They're a bunch of fabian marxists! This is the action of their totalitarian regime - punish all dissenters.... !!! I despise Labour, but, having met Brian Watson, and heard from others who are not from his party who know him, I can say that he is unlike JA, TSL, DM, SC and co. He is not arrogant, ignorant and self-serving. He is a York man, for York, and for that I respect him. Good luck Brian, you are better than your comrades - they are traitors of York![/p][/quote]Very pleased to see that this comment has a legitimate score of +15 before being invalidated by the score hacking retard.Badgers Drift

Kelvar wrote:
James Alexander quote “I respect his decision and the Labour group will continue to focus on its priorities of jobs and homes for York residents&quot;

YOU - Mr Alexander and cronies - should be concentrating on ALL Priorities for York Residents - Not just your chosen Pet Projects!

Never mind - come 2015 NONE of you will be in power hopefully!

Roll on York Independent Party! I'll vote for that...

Totally second that.

Absolutely support Independents for York.

[quote][p][bold]Kelvar[/bold] wrote:
James Alexander quote “I respect his decision and the Labour group will continue to focus on its priorities of jobs and homes for York residents"
YOU - Mr Alexander and cronies - should be concentrating on ALL Priorities for York Residents - Not just your chosen Pet Projects!
Never mind - come 2015 NONE of you will be in power hopefully!
Roll on York Independent Party! I'll vote for that...[/p][/quote]Totally second that.
Absolutely support Independents for York.YOUWILLDOASISAY

Yes, I've heard similar rumours. Also, that Semlyen and Horton are standing down - hurrah for that! Hopefully, the shuffling of candidates will be a waste of time, and Labour will be decimated at the ballot box!

Something very fishy about this deselection when the "invisible" Ken King is reselected.
Semleyen only stood to burnish her credentials with the 20s plenty campaign.
Must be more to this than meets the eye - perhaps we should look at What do they Know website for clues

[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]acomblass[/bold] wrote: The latest betting - Potter moves to Guildhall with Scott and Looker. Williams moves to Heworth vacated by Potter - musical chairs to get safe seats.[/p][/quote]Yes, I've heard similar rumours. Also, that Semlyen and Horton are standing down - hurrah for that! Hopefully, the shuffling of candidates will be a waste of time, and Labour will be decimated at the ballot box![/p][/quote]Something very fishy about this deselection when the "invisible" Ken King is reselected.
Semleyen only stood to burnish her credentials with the 20s plenty campaign.
Must be more to this than meets the eye - perhaps we should look at What do they Know website for cluesacomblass

Minstermummy wrote:
Should have been Simpson- Lang Stand as an independent Brian and listen to what your constituents want for the good of the City .. Not tow the line due to political pressure or political ego or ambition Politics should be removed from local councils and run by people for the people

Agreed, along with Alexander, Merrett and Crisp!

Good to see the above comment has a legitimate score of +19 at the moment, too.

[quote][p][bold]Minstermummy[/bold] wrote:
Should have been Simpson- Lang Stand as an independent Brian and listen to what your constituents want for the good of the City .. Not tow the line due to political pressure or political ego or ambition Politics should be removed from local councils and run by people for the people[/p][/quote]Agreed, along with Alexander, Merrett and Crisp!
Good to see the above comment has a legitimate score of +19 at the moment, too.Badgers Drift

Yes, I've heard similar rumours. Also, that Semlyen and Horton are standing down - hurrah for that! Hopefully, the shuffling of candidates will be a waste of time, and Labour will be decimated at the ballot box!

Something very fishy about this deselection when the &quot;invisible" Ken King is reselected. Semleyen only stood to burnish her credentials with the 20s plenty campaign. Must be more to this than meets the eye - perhaps we should look at What do they Know website for clues

Yes, but, Ken King is the current Lord Mayor's father, so you can see why they daren't deselect him.

Clearly Brian Watson has been singled out, and lets hope he tells the truth as to why?

Come on Brian, tell York what really happened, and what you did and said to provoke this? You owe it to York people, to let them see exactly what the Labour group has become under Alexander!

[quote][p][bold]acomblass[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]acomblass[/bold] wrote: The latest betting - Potter moves to Guildhall with Scott and Looker. Williams moves to Heworth vacated by Potter - musical chairs to get safe seats.[/p][/quote]Yes, I've heard similar rumours. Also, that Semlyen and Horton are standing down - hurrah for that! Hopefully, the shuffling of candidates will be a waste of time, and Labour will be decimated at the ballot box![/p][/quote]Something very fishy about this deselection when the "invisible" Ken King is reselected. Semleyen only stood to burnish her credentials with the 20s plenty campaign. Must be more to this than meets the eye - perhaps we should look at What do they Know website for clues[/p][/quote]Yes, but, Ken King is the current Lord Mayor's father, so you can see why they daren't deselect him.
Clearly Brian Watson has been singled out, and lets hope he tells the truth as to why?
Come on Brian, tell York what really happened, and what you did and said to provoke this? You owe it to York people, to let them see exactly what the Labour group has become under Alexander!Badgers Drift

asd wrote:
Labour in York is a disgrace, Labour national should investigate these set of clowns. Hope there are lots of independent as I will never vote for Torys or lieing Libs.

Vote as far to the left as possible. Lib Dems are Tories. Labour are Lib Dems. Tories are Labour. All of them are in the pockets of big business, with a handful of notable MP exceptions.

You cannot slip a ciggie paper between the three of them - and before anybody starts banging on about UKIP, remember they are also free market, big business friendly right wingers who support the demolition of the NHS and ending paid holidays and maternity pay.

Vote as far to the left as you can to build a better, richer, more caring society.

[quote][p][bold]asd[/bold] wrote:
Labour in York is a disgrace, Labour national should investigate these set of clowns. Hope there are lots of independent as I will never vote for Torys or lieing Libs.[/p][/quote]Vote as far to the left as possible. Lib Dems are Tories. Labour are Lib Dems. Tories are Labour. All of them are in the pockets of big business, with a handful of notable MP exceptions.
You cannot slip a ciggie paper between the three of them - and before anybody starts banging on about UKIP, remember they are also free market, big business friendly right wingers who support the demolition of the NHS and ending paid holidays and maternity pay.
Vote as far to the left as you can to build a better, richer, more caring society.MouseHouse

Wher have eboricana's comments about Labour member Patrick Kelly gone?

Is this anything to do with hin being the husband of Julia Unwin?

Why also has my comment about the Common Purpose, cultural political elitist clique that is running York, been deleted?

Why is there such a cover up campaign to hide these facts?

Wher have eboricana's comments about Labour member Patrick Kelly gone?
Is this anything to do with hin being the husband of Julia Unwin?
Why also has my comment about the Common Purpose, cultural political elitist clique that is running York, been deleted?
Why is there such a cover up campaign to hide these facts?Badgers Drift

asd wrote: Labour in York is a disgrace, Labour national should investigate these set of clowns. Hope there are lots of independent as I will never vote for Torys or lieing Libs.

Vote as far to the left as possible. Lib Dems are Tories. Labour are Lib Dems. Tories are Labour. All of them are in the pockets of big business, with a handful of notable MP exceptions. You cannot slip a ciggie paper between the three of them - and before anybody starts banging on about UKIP, remember they are also free market, big business friendly right wingers who support the demolition of the NHS and ending paid holidays and maternity pay. Vote as far to the left as you can to build a better, richer, more caring society.

What like the one Stalin built?

[quote][p][bold]MouseHouse[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]asd[/bold] wrote: Labour in York is a disgrace, Labour national should investigate these set of clowns. Hope there are lots of independent as I will never vote for Torys or lieing Libs.[/p][/quote]Vote as far to the left as possible. Lib Dems are Tories. Labour are Lib Dems. Tories are Labour. All of them are in the pockets of big business, with a handful of notable MP exceptions. You cannot slip a ciggie paper between the three of them - and before anybody starts banging on about UKIP, remember they are also free market, big business friendly right wingers who support the demolition of the NHS and ending paid holidays and maternity pay. Vote as far to the left as you can to build a better, richer, more caring society.[/p][/quote]What like the one Stalin built?Badgers Drift

Jonothon wrote: Good on ya Brian. It reminds me of the expression &quot;a ship leaving a sinking rat" Bunch of Blairite grovellers all of 'em.

Ha, ha - Blairite? They're a bunch of fabian marxists! This is the action of their totalitarian regime - punish all dissenters.... !!! I despise Labour, but, having met Brian Watson, and heard from others who are not from his party who know him, I can say that he is unlike JA, TSL, DM, SC and co. He is not arrogant, ignorant and self-serving. He is a York man, for York, and for that I respect him. Good luck Brian, you are better than your comrades - they are traitors of York!

Very pleased to see that this comment has a legitimate score of +15 before being invalidated by the score hacking retard.

Wow, my comment now up to +20!

It's about the time when the score hacker ussually starts, so
expect the scores to be invalidated soon.

[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonothon[/bold] wrote: Good on ya Brian. It reminds me of the expression "a ship leaving a sinking rat" Bunch of Blairite grovellers all of 'em.[/p][/quote]Ha, ha - Blairite? They're a bunch of fabian marxists! This is the action of their totalitarian regime - punish all dissenters.... !!! I despise Labour, but, having met Brian Watson, and heard from others who are not from his party who know him, I can say that he is unlike JA, TSL, DM, SC and co. He is not arrogant, ignorant and self-serving. He is a York man, for York, and for that I respect him. Good luck Brian, you are better than your comrades - they are traitors of York![/p][/quote]Very pleased to see that this comment has a legitimate score of +15 before being invalidated by the score hacking retard.[/p][/quote]Wow, my comment now up to +20!
It's about the time when the score hacker ussually starts, so
expect the scores to be invalidated soon.Badgers Drift

Viv Kind, chair of York Labour Party, said: “It is very sad to that Cllr Brian Watson has decided to become an independent councillor after many years in the Labour Party. As one of York’s longest serving councillors, Brian has given years of dedicated service to the Labour group.

"The job of a councillor has become much more demanding in recent years, so the Labour Party’s selection process has to be rigorous for all candidates

Brian Watson must find this statement patronising and offensive.....

So, after 35 years service and experience as a councillor, he is told that it counts for nothing, whilst a load of 'nodding dog' rooky Labour councillors get reselected.... what a disgrace!

[quote] Viv Kind, chair of York Labour Party, said: “It is very sad to that Cllr Brian Watson has decided to become an independent councillor after many years in the Labour Party. As one of York’s longest serving councillors, Brian has given years of dedicated service to the Labour group.
"The job of a councillor has become much more demanding in recent years, so the Labour Party’s selection process has to be rigorous for all candidates
[/quote]
Brian Watson must find this statement patronising and offensive.....
So, after 35 years service and experience as a councillor, he is told that it counts for nothing, whilst a load of 'nodding dog' rooky Labour councillors get reselected.... what a disgrace!Badgers Drift

Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!

If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.

The York Independent Party - now there's an idea!

AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in York

YES, please do. Count me in.

[quote][p][bold]Y.I.P.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jiminy Cricket[/bold] wrote:
This means Labour's majority is cut to just 1.
Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!
If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.
The York Independent Party - now there's an idea![/p][/quote]AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in York[/p][/quote]YES, please do. Count me in.RoseD

Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!

If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.

The York Independent Party - now there's an idea!

AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in York

YES, please do. Count me in.

looks like a new outlook is needed in York,and it is coming in the next two weeks stand up and be counted and join our team

[quote][p][bold]RoseD[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Y.I.P.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Jiminy Cricket[/bold] wrote:
This means Labour's majority is cut to just 1.
Seeing as many on this forum have said they can't wait for the 2015 elections, all you need to do now is encourage one more Labour councillor to defect and job done!
If the independents grouped together they would leapfrog the Greens.
The York Independent Party - now there's an idea![/p][/quote]AS a former City Councillor I have been working on the idea of setting up the York independent Party, I think the time has come.Watch This Space.Time For Change in York[/p][/quote]YES, please do. Count me in.[/p][/quote]looks like a new outlook is needed in York,and it is coming in the next two weeks stand up and be counted and join our teamY.I.P.

It seems to me that the whole Labour group on CYC lack political judgement. Cast your mind back to when they were given the job of running the city. What was the first thing they did? Now bear in mind that York relies heavily on tourism, quite a large amount on day trippers. They tried to sell Union Terrace coach park, that was before the height barriers were taken down on St Georges Field. Which meant that coaches bringing tourists would have no where to park except down Knavesmire Road. Really good political judgement that was.
And then we have the fiasco of Lendal Bridge. They said that it was closed to ease congestion in the City centre. Even the dumbest person knows that Lendal bridge is nowhere near the city centre. All the closure did was make traffic go down Rougier Street. Now at the end of Rougier Street traffic cannot turn right, so all traffic turned left.....towards the City centre. Again, not good political judgement. And then they opened the bridge again saying they were acting on public demand, what a load of bull, they were told that the closure was illegal.
This is the council that the majority of people voted in. Shame on you all. Let's hope we can rectify our mistake next time

It seems to me that the whole Labour group on CYC lack political judgement. Cast your mind back to when they were given the job of running the city. What was the first thing they did? Now bear in mind that York relies heavily on tourism, quite a large amount on day trippers. They tried to sell Union Terrace coach park, that was before the height barriers were taken down on St Georges Field. Which meant that coaches bringing tourists would have no where to park except down Knavesmire Road. Really good political judgement that was.
And then we have the fiasco of Lendal Bridge. They said that it was closed to ease congestion in the City centre. Even the dumbest person knows that Lendal bridge is nowhere near the city centre. All the closure did was make traffic go down Rougier Street. Now at the end of Rougier Street traffic cannot turn right, so all traffic turned left.....towards the City centre. Again, not good political judgement. And then they opened the bridge again saying they were acting on public demand, what a load of bull, they were told that the closure was illegal.
This is the council that the majority of people voted in. Shame on you all. Let's hope we can rectify our mistake next timeJohnboy1946

Johnboy1946 wrote:
It seems to me that the whole Labour group on CYC lack political judgement. Cast your mind back to when they were given the job of running the city. What was the first thing they did? Now bear in mind that York relies heavily on tourism, quite a large amount on day trippers. They tried to sell Union Terrace coach park, that was before the height barriers were taken down on St Georges Field. Which meant that coaches bringing tourists would have no where to park except down Knavesmire Road. Really good political judgement that was.
And then we have the fiasco of Lendal Bridge. They said that it was closed to ease congestion in the City centre. Even the dumbest person knows that Lendal bridge is nowhere near the city centre. All the closure did was make traffic go down Rougier Street. Now at the end of Rougier Street traffic cannot turn right, so all traffic turned left.....towards the City centre. Again, not good political judgement. And then they opened the bridge again saying they were acting on public demand, what a load of bull, they were told that the closure was illegal.
This is the council that the majority of people voted in. Shame on you all. Let's hope we can rectify our mistake next time

Don't forget closing beckfield lane tip resulting in people driving through town to get to james street

[quote][p][bold]Johnboy1946[/bold] wrote:
It seems to me that the whole Labour group on CYC lack political judgement. Cast your mind back to when they were given the job of running the city. What was the first thing they did? Now bear in mind that York relies heavily on tourism, quite a large amount on day trippers. They tried to sell Union Terrace coach park, that was before the height barriers were taken down on St Georges Field. Which meant that coaches bringing tourists would have no where to park except down Knavesmire Road. Really good political judgement that was.
And then we have the fiasco of Lendal Bridge. They said that it was closed to ease congestion in the City centre. Even the dumbest person knows that Lendal bridge is nowhere near the city centre. All the closure did was make traffic go down Rougier Street. Now at the end of Rougier Street traffic cannot turn right, so all traffic turned left.....towards the City centre. Again, not good political judgement. And then they opened the bridge again saying they were acting on public demand, what a load of bull, they were told that the closure was illegal.
This is the council that the majority of people voted in. Shame on you all. Let's hope we can rectify our mistake next time[/p][/quote]Don't forget closing beckfield lane tip resulting in people driving through town to get to james streetgeoff tibletts

Bye this lot have a load of skeleton. S in the cupboard. Remember they are all corrupt. and this go.s back years.before this mob got in.all covering each others back.the whole truth will come out .one day not to soon.

Bye this lot have a load of skeleton. S in the cupboard. Remember they are all corrupt. and this go.s back years.before this mob got in.all covering each others back.the whole truth will come out .one day not to soon.piaggio1

quandaryqueen wrote:
But... having gone off on a tangent as per the office of High Sheriff.... back to the main subject matter..... Each time Labour have been in power in this beautiful city everything goes down the plughole.... I am still baffled as to how come York citizens can have such a short memory, Labour in. York deteriorates... Labour out York picks up again...
I wonder how long it will take before this comment gets 100+ 'thumbs down'

Wow, I get 178 thumbs down from the 'score muppets' thus far... (love that phrase mr Pault42 :) ) Just goes to show that someone somewhere is very accomplished in the art of showing up York's current Labour run council in their true colours. a pit of devious, artless, incapable control freaks.

[quote][p][bold]quandaryqueen[/bold] wrote:
But... having gone off on a tangent as per the office of High Sheriff.... back to the main subject matter..... Each time Labour have been in power in this beautiful city everything goes down the plughole.... I am still baffled as to how come York citizens can have such a short memory, Labour in. York deteriorates... Labour out York picks up again...
I wonder how long it will take before this comment gets 100+ 'thumbs down'[/p][/quote]Wow, I get 178 thumbs down from the 'score muppets' thus far... (love that phrase mr Pault42 :) ) Just goes to show that someone somewhere is very accomplished in the art of showing up York's current Labour run council in their true colours. a pit of devious, artless, incapable control freaks.quandaryqueen

quandaryqueen wrote:
But... having gone off on a tangent as per the office of High Sheriff.... back to the main subject matter..... Each time Labour have been in power in this beautiful city everything goes down the plughole.... I am still baffled as to how come York citizens can have such a short memory, Labour in. York deteriorates... Labour out York picks up again...
I wonder how long it will take before this comment gets 100+ 'thumbs down'

Wow, I get 178 thumbs down from the 'score muppets' thus far... (love that phrase mr Pault42 :) ) Just goes to show that someone somewhere is very accomplished in the art of showing up York's current Labour run council in their true colours. a pit of devious, artless, incapable control freaks.

testing testing testing.....Want to see if these 'score muppets; are actually reading all the negative messages before giving the thumbs down................
... I think that York city's Labour run council is the best thing that has happened to York in the 45= years I've lived in this beautiful ciry.

[quote][p][bold]quandaryqueen[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]quandaryqueen[/bold] wrote:
But... having gone off on a tangent as per the office of High Sheriff.... back to the main subject matter..... Each time Labour have been in power in this beautiful city everything goes down the plughole.... I am still baffled as to how come York citizens can have such a short memory, Labour in. York deteriorates... Labour out York picks up again...
I wonder how long it will take before this comment gets 100+ 'thumbs down'[/p][/quote]Wow, I get 178 thumbs down from the 'score muppets' thus far... (love that phrase mr Pault42 :) ) Just goes to show that someone somewhere is very accomplished in the art of showing up York's current Labour run council in their true colours. a pit of devious, artless, incapable control freaks.[/p][/quote]testing testing testing.....Want to see if these 'score muppets; are actually reading all the negative messages before giving the thumbs down................
... I think that York city's Labour run council is the best thing that has happened to York in the 45= years I've lived in this beautiful ciry.quandaryqueen

quandaryqueen wrote: But... having gone off on a tangent as per the office of High Sheriff.... back to the main subject matter..... Each time Labour have been in power in this beautiful city everything goes down the plughole.... I am still baffled as to how come York citizens can have such a short memory, Labour in. York deteriorates... Labour out York picks up again... I wonder how long it will take before this comment gets 100+ 'thumbs down'

Wow, I get 178 thumbs down from the 'score muppets' thus far... (love that phrase mr Pault42 :) ) Just goes to show that someone somewhere is very accomplished in the art of showing up York's current Labour run council in their true colours. a pit of devious, artless, incapable control freaks.

"York's current Labour run council in their true colours. a pit of devious, artless, incapable control freaks......"

Love it!

Spot on!

[quote][p][bold]quandaryqueen[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]quandaryqueen[/bold] wrote: But... having gone off on a tangent as per the office of High Sheriff.... back to the main subject matter..... Each time Labour have been in power in this beautiful city everything goes down the plughole.... I am still baffled as to how come York citizens can have such a short memory, Labour in. York deteriorates... Labour out York picks up again... I wonder how long it will take before this comment gets 100+ 'thumbs down'[/p][/quote]Wow, I get 178 thumbs down from the 'score muppets' thus far... (love that phrase mr Pault42 :) ) Just goes to show that someone somewhere is very accomplished in the art of showing up York's current Labour run council in their true colours. a pit of devious, artless, incapable control freaks.[/p][/quote]"York's current Labour run council in their true colours. a pit of devious, artless, incapable control freaks......"
Love it!
Spot on!Badgers Drift

Ah the party which tried to quash public debate in the chamber. Free speech dead and buried by Labour until the electorate got ante. Now this. A respected person who does work for the community. You just couldn't make it up. I shall be voting UKIP. Labour are dead in the water.

Ah the party which tried to quash public debate in the chamber. Free speech dead and buried by Labour until the electorate got ante. Now this. A respected person who does work for the community. You just couldn't make it up. I shall be voting UKIP. Labour are dead in the water.ouseswimmer

quandaryqueen wrote:
But... having gone off on a tangent as per the office of High Sheriff.... back to the main subject matter..... Each time Labour have been in power in this beautiful city everything goes down the plughole.... I am still baffled as to how come York citizens can have such a short memory, Labour in. York deteriorates... Labour out York picks up again...
I wonder how long it will take before this comment gets 100+ 'thumbs down'

Wow, I get 178 thumbs down from the 'score muppets' thus far... (love that phrase mr Pault42 :) ) Just goes to show that someone somewhere is very accomplished in the art of showing up York's current Labour run council in their true colours. a pit of devious, artless, incapable control freaks.

It is now obvious that some one is tampering on these posts,as there have been 96 comments, and out of all those there are only three people who have had the thumbs up. One for 39 and two for three.Maybe now is the time for the Press to drop scoring on peoples comments.

[quote][p][bold]quandaryqueen[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]quandaryqueen[/bold] wrote:
But... having gone off on a tangent as per the office of High Sheriff.... back to the main subject matter..... Each time Labour have been in power in this beautiful city everything goes down the plughole.... I am still baffled as to how come York citizens can have such a short memory, Labour in. York deteriorates... Labour out York picks up again...
I wonder how long it will take before this comment gets 100+ 'thumbs down'[/p][/quote]Wow, I get 178 thumbs down from the 'score muppets' thus far... (love that phrase mr Pault42 :) ) Just goes to show that someone somewhere is very accomplished in the art of showing up York's current Labour run council in their true colours. a pit of devious, artless, incapable control freaks.[/p][/quote]It is now obvious that some one is tampering on these posts,as there have been 96 comments, and out of all those there are only three people who have had the thumbs up. One for 39 and two for three.Maybe now is the time for the Press to drop scoring on peoples comments.Yorkie41

Badgers Drift wrote: Look who has the highest score of +78..... why has this comment been singled out for such prvilieged treatment?

Yes why has it?

You're guess might be better than others!

Maybe you don't need to giuess?

[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: Look who has the highest score of +78..... why has this comment been singled out for such prvilieged treatment?[/p][/quote]Yes why has it?[/p][/quote]You're guess might be better than others!
Maybe you don't need to giuess?Badgers Drift

Badgers Drift wrote: Look who has the highest score of +78..... why has this comment been singled out for such prvilieged treatment?

Yes why has it?

You're guess might be better than others!

Maybe you don't need to giuess?

Why on earth would anyone be so obvious?

If you don't stop with the false accusations it's name time.

You have something very much in common with Tracey Simpson Laing.

[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: Look who has the highest score of +78..... why has this comment been singled out for such prvilieged treatment?[/p][/quote]Yes why has it?[/p][/quote]You're guess might be better than others!
Maybe you don't need to giuess?[/p][/quote]Why on earth would anyone be so obvious?
If you don't stop with the false accusations it's name time.
You have something very much in common with Tracey Simpson Laing.Buzzz Light-year

Brian Watson said,
"After 35 years of being a councillor, both on City of York Council and North Yorkshire County Council I find all these an insult to myself, delivered by people from out of the city and one man from York who is not a councillor and has no idea of what goes on behind the scenes, but who I believe has been influenced by people who resent questioning of policies and actions of the group."

We all know who those resentful 'people' are, Brian - they are also resented by most of York!

Who was the 'man from York' who was 'influenced' to give you the chop? Why is his identity being protected?

[quote] Brian Watson said,
"After 35 years of being a councillor, both on City of York Council and North Yorkshire County Council I find all these an insult to myself, delivered by people from out of the city and one man from York who is not a councillor and has no idea of what goes on behind the scenes, but who I believe has been influenced by people who resent questioning of policies and actions of the group." [/quote]
We all know who those resentful 'people' are, Brian - they are also resented by most of York!
Who was the 'man from York' who was 'influenced' to give you the chop? Why is his identity being protected?Badgers Drift

Badgers Drift wrote: Look who has the highest score of +78..... why has this comment been singled out for such prvilieged treatment?

Yes why has it?

You're guess might be better than others! Maybe you don't need to giuess?

Why on earth would anyone be so obvious? If you don't stop with the false accusations it's name time. You have something very much in common with Tracey Simpson Laing.

I'm Paul Cordock - everyone knows that.

Now show us if you've got the bottle to come out from behind your disguise.....

[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: Look who has the highest score of +78..... why has this comment been singled out for such prvilieged treatment?[/p][/quote]Yes why has it?[/p][/quote]You're guess might be better than others! Maybe you don't need to giuess?[/p][/quote]Why on earth would anyone be so obvious? If you don't stop with the false accusations it's name time. You have something very much in common with Tracey Simpson Laing.[/p][/quote]I'm Paul Cordock - everyone knows that.
Now show us if you've got the bottle to come out from behind your disguise.....Badgers Drift

Buzzz Light-year wrote:
Bet they didn't. But they do now.
Bout time you came of the closet. Well done.

Bet we did Buzzz now its your turn to unmask although I doubt you will

[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote:
Bet they didn't. But they do now.
Bout time you came of the closet. Well done.[/p][/quote]Bet we did Buzzz now its your turn to unmask although I doubt you willyorkiemum

Brian Watson said,
"Of course there will be a great coming together of some members of the group to discredit my comments, but that is to be expected, there will also be some who are pleased that my removal,( from a ward that will become a three member ward at the next election,) will have opened a door for some members to change wards and enable them to contest a safer seat, there will be an assortment of reasons and excuses quoted but mark my words it will happen (maybe that was a factor behind the original decision!)."

Those who try and discredit you Brian, will indict themselves, and make themselves even more unpopular that they already are!

The safe seat for the chosen few is what everyone knows to be the reason for this appalling act of treachery, and that it is the punishment for dissent, in true fabian tradition.

York is run like a marxist dictatorship, there is no doubt about that!

[quote] Brian Watson said,
"Of course there will be a great coming together of some members of the group to discredit my comments, but that is to be expected, there will also be some who are pleased that my removal,( from a ward that will become a three member ward at the next election,) will have opened a door for some members to change wards and enable them to contest a safer seat, there will be an assortment of reasons and excuses quoted but mark my words it will happen (maybe that was a factor behind the original decision!)." [/quote]
Those who try and discredit you Brian, will indict themselves, and make themselves even more unpopular that they already are!
The safe seat for the chosen few is what everyone knows to be the reason for this appalling act of treachery, and that it is the punishment for dissent, in true fabian tradition.
York is run like a marxist dictatorship, there is no doubt about that!Badgers Drift

We even got the same score -30, which I cannot take credit for...... I would have expected much more for my honesty, but, as we all know from the treatment of Brian Watson, honesty is not a quality that is respected by certain members of the political classes, their public service bretheren/supporters in York!

Wonder if I'll get a dead horses head in my bed now?

[quote][p][bold]yorkiemum[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: Bet they didn't. But they do now. Bout time you came of the closet. Well done.[/p][/quote]Bet we did Buzzz now its your turn to unmask although I doubt you will[/p][/quote]Thanks, Yorkiemum, (who I don't actually know, unless you are Matthew 'Spartacus' Laverack? LOL)?!!!
We even got the same score -30, which I cannot take credit for...... I would have expected much more for my honesty, but, as we all know from the treatment of Brian Watson, honesty is not a quality that is respected by certain members of the political classes, their public service bretheren/supporters in York!
Wonder if I'll get a dead horses head in my bed now?Badgers Drift

Yep, and as a man who criticises all political colours for their dishonesty, I expected that you would set an example by telling us who you are?

Maybe you are happy to be a 'pot'' who calls the 'kettle', but, who will believe anything to say (or deny???), if you remain behind your mask of anonymity?

[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote:
I'm Buzzz Light-year, space ranger of this parish.[/p][/quote]Yep, and as a man who criticises all political colours for their dishonesty, I expected that you would set an example by telling us who you are?
Maybe you are happy to be a 'pot'' who calls the 'kettle', but, who will believe anything to say (or deny???), if you remain behind your mask of anonymity?Badgers Drift

Yep, and as a man who criticises all political colours for their dishonesty, I expected that you would set an example by telling us who you are?

Maybe you are happy to be a 'pot'' who calls the 'kettle', but, who will believe anything to say (or deny???), if you remain behind your mask of anonymity?

If I gave you my name, you'd be none the wiser. I don't write letters to the Press and I'm not on Facebook.

This is an anonymous facility. I don't care what anyone else thinks about me, I just come here, have my say, have a laugh. Users can be at times heated and outspoken. I think I'm reasonable, balanced and have a good standard of written English. I don't like calling people names and I resent being falsely accused and having words put in my mouth. Especially when it's repeatedly. By the same person. If I do call someone names it's for good reason.

Maybe if I'd been banned several times, commented anonymously on my own letters, if I'd been abusive and arrogant with anyone and everyone who didn't fit my personal viewpoint, repeatedly made false accusations and daily allegations, if I styled myself as a thorn in the council's side or ran some kind of high profile media manipulating campaign maybe then I'd feel conscience-bound to come out of the closet and give a real name to stand by.

You know I'm not manipulating the scores and this isn't about me - stop making it so.
It's about the respected Brian Watson and the bent politics that have unfolded for us all to see.
Bent! Bent bent bent!
No wonder the youth is switching off politics in their droves.

[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote:
I'm Buzzz Light-year, space ranger of this parish.[/p][/quote]Yep, and as a man who criticises all political colours for their dishonesty, I expected that you would set an example by telling us who you are?
Maybe you are happy to be a 'pot'' who calls the 'kettle', but, who will believe anything to say (or deny???), if you remain behind your mask of anonymity?[/p][/quote]If I gave you my name, you'd be none the wiser. I don't write letters to the Press and I'm not on Facebook.
This is an anonymous facility. I don't care what anyone else thinks about me, I just come here, have my say, have a laugh. Users can be at times heated and outspoken. I think I'm reasonable, balanced and have a good standard of written English. I don't like calling people names and I resent being falsely accused and having words put in my mouth. Especially when it's repeatedly. By the same person. If I do call someone names it's for good reason.
Maybe if I'd been banned several times, commented anonymously on my own letters, if I'd been abusive and arrogant with anyone and everyone who didn't fit my personal viewpoint, repeatedly made false accusations and daily allegations, if I styled myself as a thorn in the council's side or ran some kind of high profile media manipulating campaign maybe then I'd feel conscience-bound to come out of the closet and give a real name to stand by.
You know I'm not manipulating the scores and this isn't about me - stop making it so.
It's about the respected Brian Watson and the bent politics that have unfolded for us all to see.
Bent! Bent bent bent!
No wonder the youth is switching off politics in their droves.Buzzz Light-year

Yep, and as a man who criticises all political colours for their dishonesty, I expected that you would set an example by telling us who you are? Maybe you are happy to be a 'pot'' who calls the 'kettle', but, who will believe anything to say (or deny???), if you remain behind your mask of anonymity?

If I gave you my name, you'd be none the wiser. I don't write letters to the Press and I'm not on Facebook. This is an anonymous facility. I don't care what anyone else thinks about me, I just come here, have my say, have a laugh. Users can be at times heated and outspoken. I think I'm reasonable, balanced and have a good standard of written English. I don't like calling people names and I resent being falsely accused and having words put in my mouth. Especially when it's repeatedly. By the same person. If I do call someone names it's for good reason. Maybe if I'd been banned several times, commented anonymously on my own letters, if I'd been abusive and arrogant with anyone and everyone who didn't fit my personal viewpoint, repeatedly made false accusations and daily allegations, if I styled myself as a thorn in the council's side or ran some kind of high profile media manipulating campaign maybe then I'd feel conscience-bound to come out of the closet and give a real name to stand by. You know I'm not manipulating the scores and this isn't about me - stop making it so. It's about the respected Brian Watson and the bent politics that have unfolded for us all to see. Bent! Bent bent bent! No wonder the youth is switching off politics in their droves.

Me running a 'high profile media manipulating campaign'?

Who do you think I am, Max Clifford, or better still Alastair Campbell?

You certainly are 'having a laugh'!!!

I don't know who is manipulating the scores, but, whoever it is has tried to make it look as though it was me, when 'they' kept giving you minus two, which you then insinuated was me! It obviously wasn't me because, I recorded the true (pre-hacked) scores to show that my comments didn't need to be hacked, as like many others which criticise and expose wrongdoing by the council and (Labour) councillors, they get positive scores showing support. On the other hand, a lot (not all) of your comments do not.

[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: I'm Buzzz Light-year, space ranger of this parish.[/p][/quote]Yep, and as a man who criticises all political colours for their dishonesty, I expected that you would set an example by telling us who you are? Maybe you are happy to be a 'pot'' who calls the 'kettle', but, who will believe anything to say (or deny???), if you remain behind your mask of anonymity?[/p][/quote]If I gave you my name, you'd be none the wiser. I don't write letters to the Press and I'm not on Facebook. This is an anonymous facility. I don't care what anyone else thinks about me, I just come here, have my say, have a laugh. Users can be at times heated and outspoken. I think I'm reasonable, balanced and have a good standard of written English. I don't like calling people names and I resent being falsely accused and having words put in my mouth. Especially when it's repeatedly. By the same person. If I do call someone names it's for good reason. Maybe if I'd been banned several times, commented anonymously on my own letters, if I'd been abusive and arrogant with anyone and everyone who didn't fit my personal viewpoint, repeatedly made false accusations and daily allegations, if I styled myself as a thorn in the council's side or ran some kind of high profile media manipulating campaign maybe then I'd feel conscience-bound to come out of the closet and give a real name to stand by. You know I'm not manipulating the scores and this isn't about me - stop making it so. It's about the respected Brian Watson and the bent politics that have unfolded for us all to see. Bent! Bent bent bent! No wonder the youth is switching off politics in their droves.[/p][/quote]Me running a 'high profile media manipulating campaign'?
Who do you think I am, Max Clifford, or better still Alastair Campbell?
You certainly are 'having a laugh'!!!
I don't know who is manipulating the scores, but, whoever it is has tried to make it look as though it was me, when 'they' kept giving you minus two, which you then insinuated was me! It obviously wasn't me because, I recorded the true (pre-hacked) scores to show that my comments didn't need to be hacked, as like many others which criticise and expose wrongdoing by the council and (Labour) councillors, they get positive scores showing support. On the other hand, a lot (not all) of your comments do not.Badgers Drift

Yes, who has been stitched up like a kipper, by his own Labour colleagues on York council!

If that's how they treat their own, what chance do citizens of York stand to get open, transparent, democratic decisions and policies from a shower of lying cheats?

Who would ever believe that score hacking wasn't just another of their underhanded tactics?

Score that one, whoever you are, you toerag!

[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote:
This is about Brian Watson.[/p][/quote]Yes, who has been stitched up like a kipper, by his own Labour colleagues on York council!
If that's how they treat their own, what chance do citizens of York stand to get open, transparent, democratic decisions and policies from a shower of lying cheats?
Who would ever believe that score hacking wasn't just another of their underhanded tactics?
Score that one, whoever you are, you toerag!Badgers Drift

Yes, shame that so few of your comments are off topic, hence the need for you to remind yourself?!!

Many of my comments are however, about the issue and related matters, therefore, I do not need patronising reminders from someone who spends more time attacking and criticising me!

More of the 'pot' calling the kettle... !!!

[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote:
This is about Brian Watson.[/p][/quote]Yes, shame that so few of your comments are off topic, hence the need for you to remind yourself?!!
Many of my comments are however, about the issue and related matters, therefore, I do not need patronising reminders from someone who spends more time attacking and criticising me!
More of the 'pot' calling the kettle... !!!Badgers Drift

ouseswimmer wrote:
Ah the party which tried to quash public debate in the chamber. Free speech dead and buried by Labour until the electorate got ante. Now this. A respected person who does work for the community. You just couldn't make it up. I shall be voting UKIP. Labour are dead in the water.

I doubt whether all those who advocate voting for an independent candidate mean a UKIP Candidate.
York needs public spirited independent mature candidates able to work for the good of the citizens of York. They need to be good speakers, intelligent and knowledgeable, of any gender, able to make good judgments based on the informed will of their electors and their own research.
I met Cllr Brian Watson when he was Mayor and he appeared to have all the above qualities as well as being both pleasant and well informed. He will now be able to to speak more freely as an Independent.
Unless York gets some un-politicised new blood on the Council, we the citizens and electors will be totally disenfranchised, so its our responsibility to make our views known by whatever means we can.
Now that many Council Meetings are televised anyone is able to make their views known, not just to those present but to everyone who can access the Internet .
Check out http://www.york.gov.
uk/webcasts for details .
Check out the Agenda online or in your local Library, then phone up or email to register up to 24hrs before a meeting.You have three minutes to make your point so make it relevant and concise!
As the saying goes "use it or loose it".

[quote][p][bold]ouseswimmer[/bold] wrote:
Ah the party which tried to quash public debate in the chamber. Free speech dead and buried by Labour until the electorate got ante. Now this. A respected person who does work for the community. You just couldn't make it up. I shall be voting UKIP. Labour are dead in the water.[/p][/quote]I doubt whether all those who advocate voting for an independent candidate mean a UKIP Candidate.
York needs public spirited independent mature candidates able to work for the good of the citizens of York. They need to be good speakers, intelligent and knowledgeable, of any gender, able to make good judgments based on the informed will of their electors and their own research.
I met Cllr Brian Watson when he was Mayor and he appeared to have all the above qualities as well as being both pleasant and well informed. He will now be able to to speak more freely as an Independent.
Unless York gets some un-politicised new blood on the Council, we the citizens and electors will be totally disenfranchised, so its our responsibility to make our views known by whatever means we can.
Now that many Council Meetings are televised anyone is able to make their views known, not just to those present but to everyone who can access the Internet .
Check out http://www.york.gov.
uk/webcasts for details .
Check out the Agenda online or in your local Library, then phone up or email to register up to 24hrs before a meeting.You have three minutes to make your point so make it relevant and concise!
As the saying goes "use it or loose it".Older Sometimes Wiser

If Badgers Drift and Buzz Light Year wish to continually insult one another why don't they just coomunicate by email and stop cluttering up these postin gs with their inane drivel and using every subject; of which they haven't a clue; as an excuse for their blethering. They are an utter pain and even worse than the vote fiddler. One of whom is probably the culprit.

If Badgers Drift and Buzz Light Year wish to continually insult one another why don't they just coomunicate by email and stop cluttering up these postin gs with their inane drivel and using every subject; of which they haven't a clue; as an excuse for their blethering. They are an utter pain and even worse than the vote fiddler. One of whom is probably the culprit.bolero

"To question is to dissent". This was the hallmark of Tony (Joseph Stalin) Blair's tenure at the helm. He managed to cajole the many inexperienced MPs into approving acts that dissipated power to officials across the whole governmental spectrum. Margaret Hodge (labour), a good lady and chair of the public accounts committee is horrified by the outcome of this. I just wished that people would open up their eyes and realise just what a nasty, tyrannical, useless bunch that labour has become!

"To question is to dissent". This was the hallmark of Tony (Joseph Stalin) Blair's tenure at the helm. He managed to cajole the many inexperienced MPs into approving acts that dissipated power to officials across the whole governmental spectrum. Margaret Hodge (labour), a good lady and chair of the public accounts committee is horrified by the outcome of this. I just wished that people would open up their eyes and realise just what a nasty, tyrannical, useless bunch that labour has become!petethefeet

bolero wrote:
If Badgers Drift and Buzz Light Year wish to continually insult one another why don't they just coomunicate by email and stop cluttering up these postin gs with their inane drivel and using every subject; of which they haven't a clue; as an excuse for their blethering. They are an utter pain and even worse than the vote fiddler. One of whom is probably the culprit.

I've got the message, thanks.

Not sure why you needed to be so nasty, and so wrong? Must be a scottish thing?

[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote:
If Badgers Drift and Buzz Light Year wish to continually insult one another why don't they just coomunicate by email and stop cluttering up these postin gs with their inane drivel and using every subject; of which they haven't a clue; as an excuse for their blethering. They are an utter pain and even worse than the vote fiddler. One of whom is probably the culprit.[/p][/quote]I've got the message, thanks.
Not sure why you needed to be so nasty, and so wrong? Must be a scottish thing?Badgers Drift

ouseswimmer wrote:
Ah the party which tried to quash public debate in the chamber. Free speech dead and buried by Labour until the electorate got ante. Now this. A respected person who does work for the community. You just couldn't make it up. I shall be voting UKIP. Labour are dead in the water.

I doubt whether all those who advocate voting for an independent candidate mean a UKIP Candidate.
York needs public spirited independent mature candidates able to work for the good of the citizens of York. They need to be good speakers, intelligent and knowledgeable, of any gender, able to make good judgments based on the informed will of their electors and their own research.
I met Cllr Brian Watson when he was Mayor and he appeared to have all the above qualities as well as being both pleasant and well informed. He will now be able to to speak more freely as an Independent.
Unless York gets some un-politicised new blood on the Council, we the citizens and electors will be totally disenfranchised, so its our responsibility to make our views known by whatever means we can.
Now that many Council Meetings are televised anyone is able to make their views known, not just to those present but to everyone who can access the Internet .
Check out http://www.york.gov.

uk/webcasts for details .
Check out the Agenda online or in your local Library, then phone up or email to register up to 24hrs before a meeting.You have three minutes to make your point so make it relevant and concise!
As the saying goes &quot;use it or loose it".

We should all vote ukip in the European elections and Independent next year in the local elections

[quote][p][bold]Older Sometimes Wiser[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]ouseswimmer[/bold] wrote:
Ah the party which tried to quash public debate in the chamber. Free speech dead and buried by Labour until the electorate got ante. Now this. A respected person who does work for the community. You just couldn't make it up. I shall be voting UKIP. Labour are dead in the water.[/p][/quote]I doubt whether all those who advocate voting for an independent candidate mean a UKIP Candidate.
York needs public spirited independent mature candidates able to work for the good of the citizens of York. They need to be good speakers, intelligent and knowledgeable, of any gender, able to make good judgments based on the informed will of their electors and their own research.
I met Cllr Brian Watson when he was Mayor and he appeared to have all the above qualities as well as being both pleasant and well informed. He will now be able to to speak more freely as an Independent.
Unless York gets some un-politicised new blood on the Council, we the citizens and electors will be totally disenfranchised, so its our responsibility to make our views known by whatever means we can.
Now that many Council Meetings are televised anyone is able to make their views known, not just to those present but to everyone who can access the Internet .
Check out http://www.york.gov.
uk/webcasts for details .
Check out the Agenda online or in your local Library, then phone up or email to register up to 24hrs before a meeting.You have three minutes to make your point so make it relevant and concise!
As the saying goes "use it or loose it".[/p][/quote]We should all vote ukip in the European elections and Independent next year in the local electionsY.I.P.

bolero wrote:
If Badgers Drift and Buzz Light Year wish to continually insult one another why don't they just coomunicate by email and stop cluttering up these postin gs with their inane drivel and using every subject; of which they haven't a clue; as an excuse for their blethering. They are an utter pain and even worse than the vote fiddler. One of whom is probably the culprit.

I've got the message, thanks.

Not sure why you needed to be so nasty, and so wrong? Must be a scottish thing?

Don't know what this scottish thing is. But,so what. You can obviously give it but can't take it.

[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote:
If Badgers Drift and Buzz Light Year wish to continually insult one another why don't they just coomunicate by email and stop cluttering up these postin gs with their inane drivel and using every subject; of which they haven't a clue; as an excuse for their blethering. They are an utter pain and even worse than the vote fiddler. One of whom is probably the culprit.[/p][/quote]I've got the message, thanks.
Not sure why you needed to be so nasty, and so wrong? Must be a scottish thing?[/p][/quote]Don't know what this scottish thing is. But,so what. You can obviously give it but can't take it.bolero

bolero wrote: If Badgers Drift and Buzz Light Year wish to continually insult one another why don't they just coomunicate by email and stop cluttering up these postin gs with their inane drivel and using every subject; of which they haven't a clue; as an excuse for their blethering. They are an utter pain and even worse than the vote fiddler. One of whom is probably the culprit.

I've got the message, thanks. Not sure why you needed to be so nasty, and so wrong? Must be a scottish thing?

Don't know what this scottish thing is. But,so what. You can obviously give it but can't take it.

My beef wasn't with you. I've never criticised you, but you rudely rounded on me and Buzzz, when it was ***k all to do with you.

I've checked out your comment history, and you are more argumentative than me and Buzzz, dishing out your venom in unprovoked attacks, left right and centre.

Me and Buzzz give it and take it, so if you can't take the heat, stay out of our arguments!

[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: If Badgers Drift and Buzz Light Year wish to continually insult one another why don't they just coomunicate by email and stop cluttering up these postin gs with their inane drivel and using every subject; of which they haven't a clue; as an excuse for their blethering. They are an utter pain and even worse than the vote fiddler. One of whom is probably the culprit.[/p][/quote]I've got the message, thanks. Not sure why you needed to be so nasty, and so wrong? Must be a scottish thing?[/p][/quote]Don't know what this scottish thing is. But,so what. You can obviously give it but can't take it.[/p][/quote]My beef wasn't with you. I've never criticised you, but you rudely rounded on me and Buzzz, when it was ***k all to do with you.
I've checked out your comment history, and you are more argumentative than me and Buzzz, dishing out your venom in unprovoked attacks, left right and centre.
Me and Buzzz give it and take it, so if you can't take the heat, stay out of our arguments!Badgers Drift

bolero wrote: If Badgers Drift and Buzz Light Year wish to continually insult one another why don't they just coomunicate by email and stop cluttering up these postin gs with their inane drivel and using every subject; of which they haven't a clue; as an excuse for their blethering. They are an utter pain and even worse than the vote fiddler. One of whom is probably the culprit.

I've got the message, thanks. Not sure why you needed to be so nasty, and so wrong? Must be a scottish thing?

Don't know what this scottish thing is. But,so what. You can obviously give it but can't take it.

My beef wasn't with you. I've never criticised you, but you rudely rounded on me and Buzzz, when it was ***k all to do with you.

I've checked out your comment history, and you are more argumentative than me and Buzzz, dishing out your venom in unprovoked attacks, left right and centre.

Me and Buzzz give it and take it, so if you can't take the heat, stay out of our arguments!

As I said before, take your arguments elsewhere without polluting this media with your masked expletives, which incidentally says quite a lot about you without me berating you.

[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: If Badgers Drift and Buzz Light Year wish to continually insult one another why don't they just coomunicate by email and stop cluttering up these postin gs with their inane drivel and using every subject; of which they haven't a clue; as an excuse for their blethering. They are an utter pain and even worse than the vote fiddler. One of whom is probably the culprit.[/p][/quote]I've got the message, thanks. Not sure why you needed to be so nasty, and so wrong? Must be a scottish thing?[/p][/quote]Don't know what this scottish thing is. But,so what. You can obviously give it but can't take it.[/p][/quote]My beef wasn't with you. I've never criticised you, but you rudely rounded on me and Buzzz, when it was ***k all to do with you.
I've checked out your comment history, and you are more argumentative than me and Buzzz, dishing out your venom in unprovoked attacks, left right and centre.
Me and Buzzz give it and take it, so if you can't take the heat, stay out of our arguments![/p][/quote]As I said before, take your arguments elsewhere without polluting this media with your masked expletives, which incidentally says quite a lot about you without me berating you.bolero

bolero wrote: If Badgers Drift and Buzz Light Year wish to continually insult one another why don't they just coomunicate by email and stop cluttering up these postin gs with their inane drivel and using every subject; of which they haven't a clue; as an excuse for their blethering. They are an utter pain and even worse than the vote fiddler. One of whom is probably the culprit.

I've got the message, thanks. Not sure why you needed to be so nasty, and so wrong? Must be a scottish thing?

Don't know what this scottish thing is. But,so what. You can obviously give it but can't take it.

My beef wasn't with you. I've never criticised you, but you rudely rounded on me and Buzzz, when it was ***k all to do with you. I've checked out your comment history, and you are more argumentative than me and Buzzz, dishing out your venom in unprovoked attacks, left right and centre. Me and Buzzz give it and take it, so if you can't take the heat, stay out of our arguments!

As I said before, take your arguments elsewhere without polluting this media with your masked expletives, which incidentally says quite a lot about you without me berating you.

I don't take instructions or lectures from the likes of you.

Jog on.... !!!

[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: If Badgers Drift and Buzz Light Year wish to continually insult one another why don't they just coomunicate by email and stop cluttering up these postin gs with their inane drivel and using every subject; of which they haven't a clue; as an excuse for their blethering. They are an utter pain and even worse than the vote fiddler. One of whom is probably the culprit.[/p][/quote]I've got the message, thanks. Not sure why you needed to be so nasty, and so wrong? Must be a scottish thing?[/p][/quote]Don't know what this scottish thing is. But,so what. You can obviously give it but can't take it.[/p][/quote]My beef wasn't with you. I've never criticised you, but you rudely rounded on me and Buzzz, when it was ***k all to do with you. I've checked out your comment history, and you are more argumentative than me and Buzzz, dishing out your venom in unprovoked attacks, left right and centre. Me and Buzzz give it and take it, so if you can't take the heat, stay out of our arguments![/p][/quote]As I said before, take your arguments elsewhere without polluting this media with your masked expletives, which incidentally says quite a lot about you without me berating you.[/p][/quote]I don't take instructions or lectures from the likes of you.
Jog on.... !!!Badgers Drift

bolero wrote: If Badgers Drift and Buzz Light Year wish to continually insult one another why don't they just coomunicate by email and stop cluttering up these postin gs with their inane drivel and using every subject; of which they haven't a clue; as an excuse for their blethering. They are an utter pain and even worse than the vote fiddler. One of whom is probably the culprit.

I've got the message, thanks. Not sure why you needed to be so nasty, and so wrong? Must be a scottish thing?

Don't know what this scottish thing is. But,so what. You can obviously give it but can't take it.

My beef wasn't with you. I've never criticised you, but you rudely rounded on me and Buzzz, when it was ***k all to do with you. I've checked out your comment history, and you are more argumentative than me and Buzzz, dishing out your venom in unprovoked attacks, left right and centre. Me and Buzzz give it and take it, so if you can't take the heat, stay out of our arguments!

As I said before, take your arguments elsewhere without polluting this media with your masked expletives, which incidentally says quite a lot about you without me berating you.

I don't take instructions or lectures from the likes of you.

Jog on.... !!!

Good night, sleep tight.

[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: If Badgers Drift and Buzz Light Year wish to continually insult one another why don't they just coomunicate by email and stop cluttering up these postin gs with their inane drivel and using every subject; of which they haven't a clue; as an excuse for their blethering. They are an utter pain and even worse than the vote fiddler. One of whom is probably the culprit.[/p][/quote]I've got the message, thanks. Not sure why you needed to be so nasty, and so wrong? Must be a scottish thing?[/p][/quote]Don't know what this scottish thing is. But,so what. You can obviously give it but can't take it.[/p][/quote]My beef wasn't with you. I've never criticised you, but you rudely rounded on me and Buzzz, when it was ***k all to do with you. I've checked out your comment history, and you are more argumentative than me and Buzzz, dishing out your venom in unprovoked attacks, left right and centre. Me and Buzzz give it and take it, so if you can't take the heat, stay out of our arguments![/p][/quote]As I said before, take your arguments elsewhere without polluting this media with your masked expletives, which incidentally says quite a lot about you without me berating you.[/p][/quote]I don't take instructions or lectures from the likes of you.
Jog on.... !!![/p][/quote]Good night, sleep tight.bolero

Minguel wrote:
Who is the moron who keeps hacking into the comments pages and negative scoring anything that doesn't broadly support Labour? It's getting very tiresome.

You are obviously not a regular reader/Contributor to these postings because this has been going on for months. The Press are not interested because if you read the`site terms` this sort of interference is in direct conflict with the conditions of usage and particularly Clause 5 of those terms. The Press are aware and must know who the culprit is but refuse to take any action towards safeguarding their own integrity and credibility.

[quote][p][bold]Minguel[/bold] wrote:
Who is the moron who keeps hacking into the comments pages and negative scoring anything that doesn't broadly support Labour? It's getting very tiresome.[/p][/quote]You are obviously not a regular reader/Contributor to these postings because this has been going on for months. The Press are not interested because if you read the`site terms` this sort of interference is in direct conflict with the conditions of usage and particularly Clause 5 of those terms. The Press are aware and must know who the culprit is but refuse to take any action towards safeguarding their own integrity and credibility.bolero

Minguel wrote:
Who is the moron who keeps hacking into the comments pages and negative scoring anything that doesn't broadly support Labour? It's getting very tiresome.

You are obviously not a regular reader/Contributor to these postings because this has been going on for months. The Press are not interested because if you read the`site terms` this sort of interference is in direct conflict with the conditions of usage and particularly Clause 5 of those terms. The Press are aware and must know who the culprit is but refuse to take any action towards safeguarding their own integrity and credibility.

Can't these actions be reported by using the report post.

[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Minguel[/bold] wrote:
Who is the moron who keeps hacking into the comments pages and negative scoring anything that doesn't broadly support Labour? It's getting very tiresome.[/p][/quote]You are obviously not a regular reader/Contributor to these postings because this has been going on for months. The Press are not interested because if you read the`site terms` this sort of interference is in direct conflict with the conditions of usage and particularly Clause 5 of those terms. The Press are aware and must know who the culprit is but refuse to take any action towards safeguarding their own integrity and credibility.[/p][/quote]Can't these actions be reported by using the report post.Yorkie41

Minguel wrote: Who is the moron who keeps hacking into the comments pages and negative scoring anything that doesn't broadly support Labour? It's getting very tiresome.

You are obviously not a regular reader/Contributor to these postings because this has been going on for months. The Press are not interested because if you read the`site terms` this sort of interference is in direct conflict with the conditions of usage and particularly Clause 5 of those terms. The Press are aware and must know who the culprit is but refuse to take any action towards safeguarding their own integrity and credibility.

Well said, Bolero ;-)

[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Minguel[/bold] wrote: Who is the moron who keeps hacking into the comments pages and negative scoring anything that doesn't broadly support Labour? It's getting very tiresome.[/p][/quote]You are obviously not a regular reader/Contributor to these postings because this has been going on for months. The Press are not interested because if you read the`site terms` this sort of interference is in direct conflict with the conditions of usage and particularly Clause 5 of those terms. The Press are aware and must know who the culprit is but refuse to take any action towards safeguarding their own integrity and credibility.[/p][/quote]Well said, Bolero ;-)Badgers Drift

Oh come on, please stop all your squabbling now! It is a disgrace and not helping anyone - as is what the Press are doing in allowing certain people to have more that one sign in and to vote down positive comments on such a ridiculous scale.
This is the one place we can make our opinions be known where coyc have no control - not even the mark down mongrel (who does not actually have the intelligence to read the posts before marking them down). We all know thata the more mark downs we get, the more we are right.
Sorry, but just needed to say that.

The reason for my post is that my heart goes out to Brian Watson, to be treated in such an abominable way by labour. This is the sort of thing that goes on in industry when a long standing and respected local firm gets taken over by a national. The most dedicated and longstanding employees are "removed" to make way for the younger yes men/ women who will support the new company stance no matter whether or not they agree with it and no matter what the cost may be. Just what labour are trying to achieve.
Brian, you are better off without them.
Labour are clearly on the election warpath now and want to get rid of anyone who may question them, or not portray them in the right way - I think others should well be looking over their shoulders now...........
Any successful organisation needs people within their ranks who are prepared to stand up to the management to question and openly discuss matters without fear - it is what breeds success.
The type of manipulation and dictatorship that labour abide by is a recipe for disaster - it is a control freak, it shows weakness at its very core together with a total lack of confidence in making any sensible judgements and a refusal to listen to anyone who has an opinion that differs from theirs.
.

Oh come on, please stop all your squabbling now! It is a disgrace and not helping anyone - as is what the Press are doing in allowing certain people to have more that one sign in and to vote down positive comments on such a ridiculous scale.
This is the one place we can make our opinions be known where coyc have no control - not even the mark down mongrel (who does not actually have the intelligence to read the posts before marking them down). We all know thata the more mark downs we get, the more we are right.
Sorry, but just needed to say that.
The reason for my post is that my heart goes out to Brian Watson, to be treated in such an abominable way by labour. This is the sort of thing that goes on in industry when a long standing and respected local firm gets taken over by a national. The most dedicated and longstanding employees are "removed" to make way for the younger yes men/ women who will support the new company stance no matter whether or not they agree with it and no matter what the cost may be. Just what labour are trying to achieve.
Brian, you are better off without them.
Labour are clearly on the election warpath now and want to get rid of anyone who may question them, or not portray them in the right way - I think others should well be looking over their shoulders now...........
Any successful organisation needs people within their ranks who are prepared to stand up to the management to question and openly discuss matters without fear - it is what breeds success.
The type of manipulation and dictatorship that labour abide by is a recipe for disaster - it is a control freak, it shows weakness at its very core together with a total lack of confidence in making any sensible judgements and a refusal to listen to anyone who has an opinion that differs from theirs.
.jay, york

Minguel wrote:
Who is the moron who keeps hacking into the comments pages and negative scoring anything that doesn't broadly support Labour? It's getting very tiresome.

You are obviously not a regular reader/Contributor to these postings because this has been going on for months. The Press are not interested because if you read the`site terms` this sort of interference is in direct conflict with the conditions of usage and particularly Clause 5 of those terms. The Press are aware and must know who the culprit is but refuse to take any action towards safeguarding their own integrity and credibility.

Can't these actions be reported by using the report post.

Tried this but obviously The Press are not interested.

[quote][p][bold]Yorkie41[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Minguel[/bold] wrote:
Who is the moron who keeps hacking into the comments pages and negative scoring anything that doesn't broadly support Labour? It's getting very tiresome.[/p][/quote]You are obviously not a regular reader/Contributor to these postings because this has been going on for months. The Press are not interested because if you read the`site terms` this sort of interference is in direct conflict with the conditions of usage and particularly Clause 5 of those terms. The Press are aware and must know who the culprit is but refuse to take any action towards safeguarding their own integrity and credibility.[/p][/quote]Can't these actions be reported by using the report post.[/p][/quote]Tried this but obviously The Press are not interested.bolero