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Re: Should Puig be an all-star candidate?

Originally Posted by mth123

Why does it matter whether Puig keeps this up later (we know he won't maintain this pace)? As of now, he's a huge force in the game. If he turns into a 4th OF down the road, why does that mean he shouldn't be in the game now?

I guess it just depends on your philosophy of picking who should be on the team. I think a guy should have a track record. Others don't. I respect that. I just don't agree.

For me to say a rookie should be in the game, to me it should only be rookies like Gooden, Fernando, Pujols, guys where there is no question. If you have to debate it, then he doesn't belong.

Re: Should Puig be an all-star candidate?

Originally Posted by gilpdawg

I don't think he should be considered. Too small of a sample. It'd be like when Jeff Francoeur started his career super hot, made the cover of SI, whole nine yards, if they had put him in. We don't know what Puig is yet. He could be Pujols, or he could be Francoeur (and I worry about Puig's K/BB ratio going forward, regression could hit him hard) no question he has the talent, though.

That said, I don't really care about the game. The All Star game is pretty worthless and watered down already, so if people want him there, I'm not going to be mad about it.

The only reason I care at all about the game is the effect on the World Series. Doesn't mean I'll watch it but I'll care who wins. Way to go Bud.

"Now that's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that."

Re: Should Puig be an all-star candidate?

The Reds encourage folks to vote for Ryan Ludwick, and give them free pizza at GABP to do so.

700000 or so people voted for Derek Jeter.

Dan Uggla made the ASG last year whilst just barely making it over the Mendoza line. Scott Rolen made it in 2011.

So yeah, it's an exhibition game, no matter what Bud wants it to be, and I can't get too up in arms if a kid who has been the best player over the last 6 weeks is included on the team, even if he hasn't been on the team all 3 months.

Re: Should Puig be an all-star candidate?

But we've seen guys go in before who were injured most of the first half of the season, but got by on fan popularity. I don't think there's any real rule to this, just a feel.

I would be likely to favor including a guy with no more plate appearances in a season if he was an established star, say a Willie Mays type player who just happened to have been hurt but about who there was no question if he was a flash in the pan.

Re: Should Puig be an all-star candidate?

Re: Should Puig be an all-star candidate?

Originally Posted by Dom Heffner

Puig with five straight k's....

Another pitch away and out of the zone.

He is gong to be pounded away and out of the zone until he shows he can lay off of it. So far in his career, he hasn't been able to, but pitchers haven't been throwing there much. The adjustment is coming and soon it will be in his court as to whether he can adjust back.

Re: Should Puig be an all-star candidate?

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Another pitch away and out of the zone.

He is gong to be pounded away and out of the zone until he shows he can lay off of it. So far in his career, he hasn't been able to, but pitchers haven't been throwing there much. The adjustment is coming and soon it will be in his court as to whether he can adjust back.

You're right. 5% BB, 20%K...he has an uphill climb ahead of him once the league figures him out. I'm surprised it took this long.

Re: Should Puig be an all-star candidate?

I strongly disagree with most of you. I'd take Puig's 1/3 of the first half along with a minor league free agent OF of my choice for the other 2/3 of the first half and take my chances.

Puig is the best baseball player on the planet right now, and in the long run, he will give Trout and Harper a run for their money.

". . . acquiring J. Blanton from Oakland for, apparently, Bailey/Cueto, Votto and a lesser prospect. I do it in a second . . . The Reds' equation this year is simple: Make Matt Belisle your #3 starter . . . trade for Blanton, win 85 or more, be in the mix all summer." - Paul Daugherty, Feb. 8, 2008

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