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17538Objet : Re: Help with cemeteries in Renwez near Charleville-Mézièreshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/316.2.2.1/mb.ashx
Hi<br>Sorry but all thoses informations are too much modern<br>I can't access any information before 1900...2016-09-09 22:25:47Zjeanmarcmerigothttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/316.2.2.1/mb.ashxRe: Help with cemeteries in Renwez near Charleville-Mézièreshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/316.2.2/mb.ashx
I have dates for:<br> Marcel Coppee born 11 Feb 1908 in Chateau- Regnault-Bogny died 09 Feb 1970 ( supposed to be buried in Renwez)<br><br>Roger Coppee born 9 Oct 1935 Renwez and died 09 Oct 1996 ( He was a fairly well known singer)<br><br>Emilienne Marie Philimene Hudreaux (married Marcel Coppee) Born 08 Jan 1911 Renwez died 1960's to the 1990's<br><br>Joseph Eugene Coppee died 23 Mar 1931 (presumably in Renwez)<br><br>Marie Lucienne Petit died 06 Dec 1930 (also probably in Renwez) was married to Joseph Eugene Coppee<br><br>2016-09-07 07:58:19Zsmcarnoldhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/316.2.2/mb.ashxRe: Help with cemeteries in Renwez near Charleville-Mézièreshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/316.2.1/mb.ashx
Hi,<br><br>I think you all for your responses. I am trying to help out a friend of mine who is a native of this area and now lives in the USA. He has tremendous interest in finding his ancestors but doesn't know how to go about it. He has names and some dates up to his Great Grand parents on his paternal side. He has told me that many of his direct line ancestors are buried in Renwez. I figure this and him sending off for vital records will help to bridge the gap for him to use the Civil registration records. What kind of fees should he expect to pay for Birth/Marriage/Death records less than 100 years old? What is expected to prove your direct family relation? Also are all of the records older than 100 years old held in an archive? How do I know what archive to use and are the fees higher with an archive? I am sure I will have more questions later.<br><br>He is searching for Coppee, Petit, Hudreaux, and Loiseau at the moment.<br><br>Matt A2016-09-07 07:29:28Zsmcarnoldhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/316.2.1/mb.ashxRe: Help with cemeteries in Renwez near Charleville-Mézièreshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/316.2/mb.ashx
Hello!<br><br>In France, except for famous people, it is not very common for a person to have an individual grave or an individual marker. Usually there will be a family grave marker - with just the surname on it. Sometimes there is a family tomb or mausoleum. The other problem is that graves are often leased, for anywhere up to 100 years. If they aren't renewed the remains are removed and placed in an ossuary and the grave is then re-used. Further complicating matters is that it is illegal to photograph a tombstone in France without permission. <br><br>Cemetery records are kept at the town hall and often the cemetery keeper has them as well. You can write to the town hall and ask for records but you need to know where and when the person died.<br><br>It is far better just to search for death records which can contain quite useful information. The one thing, though, they will never contain is cause of death.<br><br>If you provide some full names and approximate times they lived/died, I'd be happy to look them up for you.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Soosi2016-09-06 21:01:59ZSoospadhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/316.2/mb.ashxObjet : Help with cemeteries in Renwez near Charleville-Mézièreshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/316.1/mb.ashx
Hi<br>On Renwez I only found a list of WW1 death<br><br>Too far away to help you but you can try to contact this trees'owner...<br><a href="http://gw.geneanet.org/loujen?lang=en&amp;pz=sebastien&amp;nz=figour&amp;ocz=0&amp;p=jean%20loup&amp;n=petit" target="_blank">http://gw.geneanet.org/loujen?lang=en&amp;pz=sebastien&amp;n...</a><br>His mail (notice that in his "Most Popular Places", he speaks about Renwez...., but now, he seem to live in south of France, I don' t know if he speaks english)<br><a href="http://en.geneanet.org/profil/loujen/Jean-Loup-Petit" target="_blank">http://en.geneanet.org/profil/loujen/Jean-Loup-Petit</a><br><br>Or you can try to ask the town hall... <a href="http://www.renwez.com/nous-contacter/" target="_blank">http://www.renwez.com/nous-contacter/</a><br>Good luck2016-09-06 20:34:07Zjeanmarcmerigothttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/316.1/mb.ashxHelp with cemeteries in Renwez near Charleville-Mézièreshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/316/mb.ashx
Hi,<br>I need help finding some ancestors for a friend of mine that are buried in Renwez. Is there a site like find a grave or some sort of historical society that has lists of cemeteries with list of internments? Finding something like that will help alot to get him started on his lines. He is searching for Coppee and Petit. Any help would be sincerely appreciated.<br><br>Matt A2016-09-06 17:32:44Zsmcarnoldhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/316/mb.ashxDevall Surname (Champagne-Ardennes, France)http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/315/mb.ashx
The surname of Devall has both English and French ties and is supposedly derived from the city of Deville in Ardennes. Another derivative comes from the variant Deval, or 'de Val' which means 'of the valley.' Based on DNA testing, it seems that the Devall surname happens to originate within northeastern France where Deville is located...matching literal sources. There is also source which also mentions the Languedoc-Rousillon region in southwestern France being a seat of Devall families, but I'm not sure of its legitimacy. Close DNA matches within the haplogroup also include Van Valkenburg, Treece, Driess, Faulkenberry and Fortenberry which originate in nearby Belgium and Germany. Therefore, I would expect my surname to come from the same general area.<br><br>George DeVall, who is apparently my 5-times great grandfather, immigrated to the United States from France sometime in the early to mid-1700's...shortly before the Revolutionary War. He settled as a farmer in what is now Orange County, New York near the city of Newburgh. It was originally part of Ulster County. Unfortunately, I currently don't know which part of France he came from. There have been mentions of the line passing through Canada as well, although it doesn't seem likely. The surname has also been seen in early census records as Davol, DeVol and Devoll.<br><br>Any help regarding the Devall surname in France would be greatly appreciated, but I'm aware the current specifics of travel through the country are vague. Thanks in advance.2016-08-26 23:36:07ZALUCEPLUVhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/315/mb.ashxTimothy fields http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/314/mb.ashx
Hi if Kathryn. Is still interested in her gggreatgrandfather please give me a e.mail on <a href="mailto://John.cullen1938@icloud.com">John.cullen1938@icloud.com</a> I am sure I can help her cheers j cullen2016-03-26 21:00:18Zcullenjohn1http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/314/mb.ashxRe: Ferdinand Meurant 1765 – 1844 b Frontignac Francehttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.1.3.1.2.2/mb.ashx
Hi Charmaine<br><br>Further to your message regarding Frontignac near St Sulpice Lauriere, the archives are now online. From 1635, Frontignac became part of St Sulpice Lauriere for the purposes of recording BDMs etc. I have looked at the archived records for 1765 (Ferdinand's year of birth) and other records around that time for St Sulpice Lauriere and have found no mention of him or any other Meurants.<br><br>Unfortunately, the location of Ferdinand's birthplace remains a mystery.<br><br>Regards<br><br>Lee Hill2016-03-03 12:48:52Zschwartzbearhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.1.3.1.2.2/mb.ashxRe: DROW/DREW-PETER and MARGAREThttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/60.64.1/mb.ashx
Hello Lori,<br>I am new to this message board and I am interested in information about my great great grandfather Peter Drow. His daughter Margaret Adele Drow was born on ship in the Straits of Dover. She is my great grandmother. Before that, I am stuck. I have not been able to find a birth record for Margaret, nor any information about Peter Drow's parents.<br>Please let me know if this thread is still viable and I will add more information.<br>Thank you,<br>Linda2015-11-16 00:26:19Zdldamstrahttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/60.64.1/mb.ashxRe: Civil Registration Marriage record circa 1907 for Renwez near Charleville-Mézièreshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/311.1.2.1/mb.ashx
There you are!<br><br><a href="http://archives.cd08.fr/article.php?larub=23&amp;titre=sources-genealogiques" target="_blank">http://archives.cd08.fr/article.php?larub=23&amp;titre=sourc...</a><br><br>Claudine2015-10-26 15:53:37Zzanzigirl60http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/311.1.2.1/mb.ashxRe: Civil Registration Marriage record circa 1907 for Renwez near Charleville-Mézièreshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/311.1.2/mb.ashx
Soosi,<br><br>Do you have a link to online records from Renwez or from Ardennes in general prior to 1890? I am sure he can you use those also.<br><br>2015-10-26 15:07:12Zsmcarnoldhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/311.1.2/mb.ashxRe: Civil Registration Marriage record circa 1907 for Renwez near Charleville-Mézièreshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/311.1.1/mb.ashx
Soosi,<br><br>I thank you for your fast response. Fortunately my friend is French and he can write a letter just fine. I will forward him this information. Thank you again and I know he will appreciate it.<br><br>Matt Arnold2015-10-26 14:13:53Zsmcarnoldhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/311.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Civil Registration Marriage record circa 1907 for Renwez near Charleville-Mézièreshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/311.1/mb.ashx
Hi!<br><br>Unfortunately the online records for the Ardennes department only go to 1890. But you can write to the Mairie (mayor/town hall) to request the records. If you don't speak French you can write in English but start by apologizing that you don't speak French. They are usually very helpful and accommodating. <br><br>Here is the contact page for emailing them. <br><br><a href="http://www.renwez.com/nous-contacter/" target="_blank">http://www.renwez.com/nous-contacter/</a><br><br>Here's the address for snail mail:<br><br>Mairie de Renwez<br>Place de la Mairie<br>08150 Renwez<br>FRANCE<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Soosi2015-10-26 09:51:16ZSoospadhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/311.1/mb.ashxCivil Registration Marriage record circa 1907 for Renwez near Charleville-Mézièreshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/311/mb.ashx
I am trying to help a friend with locating information on his Great-Grandparent's marriage that occurred around 1907 in Renwez, Ardennes. The names are Joseph Eugene Coppee and Marie Lucienne Petit. I think my friend should get this marriage record first before he orders film from familysearch for Catholic and civil records. I would like to know where to look and who to send to, to locate this record. Any help would be appreciated, thank you.2015-10-26 06:19:13Zsmcarnoldhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/311/mb.ashxRe: Coyon-Raquevillehttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/310.1/mb.ashx
Hi<br>Which child of this couple is your ancestor?<br>Try this link<br><a href="http://gw.geneanet.org/athee37?lang=en&amp;n=raqueville&amp;nz=baudart&amp;ocz=0&amp;p=marie+jeanne+adeline&amp;pz=didier+albert+jean+louis" target="_blank">http://gw.geneanet.org/athee37?lang=en&amp;n=raqueville&amp;...</a><br>Best regards2015-07-26 00:39:16Zjeanmarcmerigothttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/310.1/mb.ashxCoyon-Raquevillehttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/310/mb.ashx
These are the surname of my ggrandparents. Does anyone have information on these names.<br><br>Anita2015-07-24 23:47:26Zresearchlady49http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/310/mb.ashxProtestant records 1536-1863http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/309/mb.ashx
Hi everyone:<br><br>Familysearch.org has a fantastic collection of records such as the protestant registres between 1536-1863 of several departments and cities in France, Suisse and Germany. <br>For the department of Ardennes, it has the following:<br><br>Ardennes: Fleigneux, Givonne, Illy, Raucourt<br>Ardennes: Imécourt<br>Ardennes: Sedan<br><br>See all in <br><br><a href="https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecapi%2Fsord%2Fwaypoint%2F9WLT-168%3A1067483304%3Fcc%3D1582585" target="_blank">https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%...</a> <br><br>Good hunting!<br><br>Lucie2014-12-14 02:06:24Zluciemyers1http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/309/mb.ashxRe: Jean Alphonse Longuethttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/304.1/mb.ashx
on the site geneanet you can find the name longuet of mesmont<br><br><br>your ancestors?????<br><br>good luck <br><br><br>chantal2014-04-21 09:38:52Zcoppola_chantalhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/304.1/mb.ashxChambaron d'Antignachttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/308/mb.ashx
Bonjour!<br>I descend from a Frenchman who came to America, as many Frenchmen did, at the beginning of the American Revolution.<br>He introduced himself to the Continental Congress and the Board of War via a "Memorial" identifying himself as "CHAMBARON, Chevalier d' Antignac," a member of the King's Musketeers. His full name was Louis Jean Baptist Chambaron d'Antignac born Aug 18, 1748 in France, possibly in Auvergne. After serving in the American Continental Army based in Virginia, he moved first to South Carolina and finally to Richmond County, GA.<br>I have been unable to find information on him prior to his arrival in America in 1777.<br>I would love to hear from anyone who may have additional information and/or who have come across my grandfather in your research or via family lore<br>Thank you for your time and assistance,<br>Yours truly,<br>Brenda Austin Mason<br>Fifth generation great-granddaughter of Jean/John Chambaron D'Antignac2014-02-19 18:04:06Zbrendamason5259http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/308/mb.ashxRe: timothy fieldhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/307.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Hi I am having trouble opening your emails as they are going to my Daughter and she is forwarding them to me can you contact me through my email which is <a href="mailto://kathryn_67@hotmail.co.uk">kathryn_67@hotmail.co.uk</a> I will be able to see them sooner.2014-02-06 21:25:33Zkayleehindleyhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/307.2.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: timothy fieldhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/307.2.1.1/mb.ashx
Hi, All I know is he was born in Marne to British parents either 1845 or 1854 some of my family seem to think he was 1845 I think he was in 1854. He married a Catherine Murphy in Liverpool in 1883 I have that record and died in 1921 in Liverpool. Michael and Bridget were his parents name hope this helps. Kathryn2014-02-06 15:18:40Zkayleehindleyhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/307.2.1.1/mb.ashxRe: timothy fieldhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/307.2.1/mb.ashx
Hi Kathryn<br><br>You will need to know the town or village to progress otherwise it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. Marne is the name of one of the 4 Departments within the Champagne-Ardenne region. The others are Champagne, Ardenne and Aube (my family's Department).<br><br>You may need to work backwards using his marraige or death certificate to get the town or village where he was born in the Marne Department.<br><br>I will see what I can find from my sources.<br><br>Regards<br><br>Lee Hill<br>2014-02-06 05:36:11Zschwartzbearhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/307.2.1/mb.ashxRe: timothy fieldhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/307.2/mb.ashx
Hi,thank you for the information but all I know is he was born in a place called Marne, Champagne, Ardenne France about 1854 not sure if this is enough to go on but I found him in Englands 1871 census and not before makes me think he was in France for some time might of been educated there I don't know. Is it possible to get a birth certificate from Marne or do they do look ups. Thanks again for your help. Kathryn 2014-02-05 13:58:26Zkayleehindleyhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/307.2/mb.ashxRe: timothy fieldhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/307.1/mb.ashx
Hi Kathryn<br><br>You will need the name of the Department and the village he was born in. If you have this, each Department has its own archives. See <a href="http://memorhom.site.voila.fr/index.htm" target="_blank">http://memorhom.site.voila.fr/index.htm</a> for links to Departmental archives. Probably the best place to start once you have that info is the "tables decennales" - ten year tables in alphabetic order for birth deaths and marriages for each village. Also there are "recensements" - census for each village that will show who was living in the same house and their relationships - parents, children, servants etc and occupations. This may answer your questions about siblings and what they were doing in France.<br><br>Good luck<br><br>Lee Hill <br>en Australie2014-02-05 11:18:44Zschwartzbearhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/307.1/mb.ashxtimothy fieldhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/307/mb.ashx
Hi, My name is Kathryn I live in Liverpool England and I am looking for the birth of my GRT GRT Grandfather who was born in Champagne Ardenne around 1854. His parents are Michael field and Bridget Nowlend who were both born in Liverpool. When they returned to England around 1865 to 1870 he is on record as being a British Subject it appears on the 1871 census. Family stories through the years say that he spoke some English but had a French accent Can anybody help me in finding the date of his birth and did he have any siblings as he seems to be an only child. Also can anybody help with why his parents would of been in France at this time or reason could it be work I also think his Mother Bridget Field (married name) went back and died there Would it be possible if someone could give me an email address or telephone number to the Record Office were I can order certificates for Birth's and Death's I would be grateful for any help or advice Thank you for your time in reading this sorry it is not in French. Kathryn2014-02-04 23:42:41Zkayleehindleyhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/307/mb.ashxRe: Huyet dit Champagnehttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/273.1.2/mb.ashx
my 3x's great Grandma was Monica Whiting (Huyet dit Champagne)2014-01-17 21:14:34ZAnnWarwickKing5http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/273.1.2/mb.ashxRe: PATUREZ ou PATURET et DEVIShttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/302.1/mb.ashx
Bonjour Christiane:<br><br>Cette Rosalie DEVIS est introuvable. Je ne sais pas si vous avez cherche dans les Archives en ligne mais voici ce que j’ai trouve dans les Archives de la Marne (51), a la page 40 (il y a 133 pages), la naissance d’une fille du couple PATUREZ/DEVIS, nommee Rosalie et nee le 8 Jan 1836 a Blaise-sous-Hauteville. L’acte est un peu difficile a lire, du moins pour moi.<br><a href="http://archives.marne.fr/ark:/86869/a0113105437727sMyFr/1/1" target="_blank">http://archives.marne.fr/ark:/86869/a0113105437727sMyFr/1/1</a><br><br>Je n’ai pas trouve Rosalie DEVIS et aucun PATUREZ/PATURET dans mes CDs, mais je vous cite quelques DEVIS originaires de Arreux, Ardennes (08)<br><br>Naissances a Arreux, Ardennes:<br>DEVIS, Marie Elizabeth Victoire Bir 1809 Fran Arde Arreux<br>Fa: Jean Joseph DEVIS<br>Mo: Marie Elizabeth DEMOULIN<br>DEVIS, Marie Jeanne Adelaide Bir 1811 Fran Arde Arreux<br>Fa: Jean Joseph DEVIS<br>Mo: Marie Elizabeth DEMOULIN<br>DEVIS, Marie Elizabeth Bir 1814 Fran Arde Arreux<br>Fa: Joseph DEVIS<br>Mo: Marie Elizabeth DEMOULIN<br>DEVIS, Marie Melanie Bir 1815 Fran Arde Arreux<br>Fa: Joseph DEVIS<br>Mo: Marie Elizabeth DEMOULIN<br><br>Mariages a Arreux, Ardennes:<br>DEVIS, Marie Elizabeth Victoir Marr 1833 Fran Arde Arreux<br>Sp: Pierre Louis Isidore HENON<br>DEVIS, Marie Jeanne Adelaide Marr 1838 Fran Arde Arreux<br>Sp: Jean Louis PONTOISE<br>DEVIS, Henry Joseph Marr 1849 Fran Arde Landri<br>Sp: Marie Catherine JANMART<br><br>Rootsweb a 6 DEVIS originaires de Fillièvres, Pas de Calais (mais pas de Rosalie).<br><a href="http://tinyurl.com/lmkzga9" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/lmkzga9</a><br><br>Il va vous falloir vraiment pecher dans les archives en ligne, telles que dans la Marne et les Ardennes. Voir le lien: <a href="http://fr.geneawiki.com/index.php/Archives_en_ligne" target="_blank">http://fr.geneawiki.com/index.php/Archives_en_ligne</a><br><br>Trouve aussi dans Ancestry.com:<br><br>Eugene-Antoine PATUREZ ne le 24 Dec 1832 a Avenay, Marne (51). J’ai cherche dans Avenay mais pas trouve son acte de naissance. Essayez vous-meme, peut-etre aurez-vous plus de chance.<br><br>Jacques-Antoine PATUREZ, 28 ans (ne vers 1780) a Reims, Marne (51), fils de Antoine-Mathieu et defunte Marguerite LESIEUR, epouse le 1er Aout 1808 a Reims, Jeanne-Catherine GALLOY originaire de Revin, Ardennes (08), fille de defunt Nicolas et Anne-Francoise MEURQUIN. <br><br>Est-il le meme Jacques-Antoine qui a epouse Rosalie DEVIS?<br><br>Bonne chance.<br><br>Lucie<br><br><br>2014-01-14 14:58:30Zluciemyers1http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/302.1/mb.ashxJacob Faubion "The Dutchman" http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/306/mb.ashx
Jacob Faubion was born 1745 and died at Cocke Co TN on 12 Jul 1827 and his 1st wife, Diannah Rector born 1750 at Prince William Co, Virginia died at Cocke Co. TN Feb 22 1841 and they married1770. Her parents were Henry Rector 1715-1720 at Stafford Co. VA and died at Fauquier Co. VA in 1799 and his wie wsa Anne (spencer) Robinson born___and died at Fauquier Co., VA in 1804 and hey married between 1740 and 1745. Jacob's Son, William Faubion was born January16 1783 in Fauquier Co. VAand died at Cocke Co. Tn on 26 Sep 1839 and his 1st wife was Rosannah Perthenia Ayers born 1785 in Tennessee and died at Cocke Co; TN on 3 June 1851; they were married 1801. Henry Faubion was born 16 Apr 1815 in Bridgeport, Cocke Co. TN and died Mar 17 1892 in Hamilton Co. Texas and his first wife was Eliza Jane Chapman born 15 June 1824 at Cocke Co, TN and diedat Johnson co. MO on March 9 1863 and they were married on Ajugust 1, 1839 in Cocke Co. TN. Elizabeth Perthenia Faubion, daughter of Henry Faubion was born Oct 10 1840 Cocke Co, TN and died at Savoy, Fannin County, Texas on February 22, 1814, buried Sunnyside Cemetery, Savoy, Texas. Elizabeth Perthenia Faubion married John (Jehu) Pate who was born December 23, 1821 in Tennessee and died at Johnson County, MO on January 31, 1871 and they married on +++++++++. They had a daughtr, Elizabeth Ann Pate bornJanury 30 1868 in Johnson County, MO and died at SAvoy, Texas on November 30, 1921 and she married John Ferenese Large on Novemberf 10 1885, in Savoyu, Fannin County, Texas. John F. Lrge was born September 18, 1866 at McMinn County, TN, and died at Savoy, Fannin County, Texas on January 30, 1868 in Savoy, Fannin County, Texas. They had a son, Samuel Russell Large, bornJuly 6, 1894 in Savoy, Fannin County, exas and died at Sherman, Grayson County, Texas on December 9, 1971, and they were mrried on July 30, 19___. Samuel Russell Large married Elizabeth Viola Garrett who was born August 31 1899 in Rockwall, Texas and died at Savoy, Fannin County, Texas on August 15, 1975 at Savoy, Texas. They had a daughter, Theresa Nell Large born August 15, 1936 at Savoy, Texas, and she married David Maywood Spriggs in August of 1953. She died December 23, 2012 at Bonham, Fannin County, Texas. David M. Spriggs was born July 2, 1934 in Scioto County, Ohio and died at Lafayette Louisiana on May 27, 2010. They had a daughter, Sharron Lynn Spriggs Cox, born September 13, 1954 in San Marcos, Texas, and she is alive and lives at Ector, Texas. Sharron is maried to Joe Wiley Cox, having married on September 4, 1981 at Durant Oklahoma. They have a son, Joseph Lewis Cox born February 20, 2002 at Sherman, Grayson County, Texas. I am searching for the parents of Jehew or John Pate who died 1871 in Johnson County Missouri when Ann Eliza was but 3 years old. Elizabeth Faubion Pate moved to Savoy, Tx eventually and that is where she died. She lived with John F. Large and her daughter, Ann Eliza Pate Large for many years before her death. Also, any other information about where he might have lived prior to 1840 and other siblings he might have had. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sharron L. Cox <a href="mailto://scox44@hotmail.com">scox44@hotmail.com</a>2013-11-15 05:13:28Zscox44http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/306/mb.ashxRe: Jean Baptiste Chenonierhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/305.1.1/mb.ashx
Thanks great site :)2013-11-08 22:55:43ZConroy12http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/305.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Jean Baptiste Chenonierhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/305.1/mb.ashx
I suggest you look at the geneanet.org site - someone there has researched this family and put it on line.<br>Angela2013-11-08 08:57:32Zjambomamahttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/305.1/mb.ashxJean Baptiste Chenonierhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/305/mb.ashx
Looking for information on Jean Baptiste Chenonier born in 1796 in Maranwez, married to Aimee Augustine Glin born in 1798 in Maranwez as well, I cannot find any information on their parents, marriage or anything. Thanks for any help.2013-11-07 15:05:44ZConroy12http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/305/mb.ashxJean Alphonse Longuethttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/304/mb.ashx
Looking for ancestors of Jean Alphonse Longuet born in Mesmont in 1824, Champagne Ardenne, married to Marie Eugenie Jouet born in 1829 in Mesmont as well.2013-11-06 15:30:49ZConroy12http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/304/mb.ashxBeyronneau of Carignanhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/303/mb.ashx
I am looking for any information on the following 2 people..<br><br>Francoise Beyronneau born 13 Sept 1901 in Carignan..<br> mother is Marie....religion is catholic<br><br>Robert Maurice Beyronneau born 7 Oct 1923 in Carignan<br> married Charlotte Guerin in Oct 1946...<br><br>thanks for any help<br>2013-06-26 01:08:03Ztencalcprohttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/303/mb.ashxRe: Ferdinand Meurant 1765 – 1844 b Frontignac Francehttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.1.3.1.2.1/mb.ashx
Hi Charmaine<br><br>Good news and bad (or no news)!<br><br>Since I contacted you previously I have found your village called Frontignac in Haute-Vienne. I have joined the Haute-Vienne Yahoo group and after several weeks finally was accepted as a member. I wrote to the group requesting any info on Ferdi but have received nothing other than their offical welcome to the group. I will email the group again, but it's not looking good.<br><br>The Haute-Vienne archives are not online yet so I have to rely on the goodwill of the other members of this Yahoo group. Normally I have had good responses when requesting info on Yahoo groups so it's not looking good. <br><br>Regards<br><br><br>Lee Hill <br>2013-05-11 12:26:00Zschwartzbearhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.1.3.1.2.1/mb.ashxPATUREZ ou PATURET et DEVIShttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/302/mb.ashx
Bonjour,<br>je cherche en vain des traces de Rosalie DEVIS qui se serait mariée à Jacques Antoine PATUREZ dans les années 1830.<br>Je n'ai comme indication que la naissance de leur fils Eugène en 1832-33.<br>Les PATUREZ (ceux de ma branche) comporte beaucoup de gens du voyage. D'où le manque de précision des lieux.<br>Si quelqu'un connaît un site où me renseigner, merci d'avance.<br>2013-04-25 11:08:54Zchristianehenriathttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/302/mb.ashxRe: Ferdinand Meurant 1765 – 1844 b Frontignac Francehttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.1.3.1.2/mb.ashx
Location of Frontignac France<br>It is a small village near Saint Sulpice Lauriere. It is on the Route de l'Eland off the Rue de Frontignac (D203). The biggest town nearby is Limoges which is SSW. Smaller towns nearby are Bersac sur Rivalier and La Jonchere Saint Maurice.<br>Frontignac is not near Frontignan.<br>I also found it on Google Earth.<br><br>Kind regards Charmaine2013-03-07 10:27:32ZCharmaineBeckethttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.1.3.1.2/mb.ashxRe: Ferdinand Meurant 1765 – 1844 b Frontignac Francehttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.1.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Hi Charmaine<br><br>There has not been a region called Champagne in France since the 1790s, but I have accessed all of the Departmental archives (many going back to the 1500s and listing the old commune names)from the area it once covered and have been unable to find a "Frontignac". The only reference I have found to a commune of that name is in Herault (34) (now called Frontignan, on the Mediterranean coast way south of the former Champagne. Many people have said on their trees that Frontignac is in Champagne but I have found no documentary evidence to support that.<br><br>I have many contacts in France (including my own French cousins) that research family history in their regions and I have found their information to be very reliable and always based on digitised/microfilmed primary source documents.<br><br>Regards<br><br><br>Lee Hill2013-03-07 10:10:39Zschwartzbearhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.1.3.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Ferdinand Meurant 1765 – 1844 b Frontignac Francehttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx
Hi, thank you for this wonderful information. I'm just picking up now where my Mum left off. I'm a granddaughter x 7 of Ferdinand's. I shall look up Frontignac again and post details but I too initially got the information about Frontignan being the modern name. Frontignac is in the CHampaigne region of France.<br>My thoughts, looking at this logically, are that he may have essentially been a refugee, given the Revolution. The De before Meurant means that he was probably from an aristocratic family. I think in those times it's conceivable that you would try and disassociate yourselves from the aristocratic class. He seemed to have dropped the 'de' . By the time of the revolution the Hugonots were better treated so I think the former is a more likely scenario <br>for leaving France. All speculation of course.<br>Kind regards Charmaine2013-03-07 09:36:36ZCharmaineBeckethttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.1.3.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Ferdinand Meurant 1765 – 1844 b Frontignac Francehttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.1.3.1/mb.ashx
Hi Charmaine<br><br>Ferdinand was my wife's great great grandfather. I went back over my French Yahoo group query on this couple and found a few errors in my previous posting on this forum.<br><br>It seems that many people (including myself until I did further research) have assumed, based on unsubstantiated information on the internet, that Louis De Meurant and Jeanne Trinquant were Ferdinand Meurant's parents. This couple were married in 30/10/1753 at Andrezé (Maine et Loire, 49 – North Western France). Louis Demeurant's parents were Louis Demeurant &amp; Catherine Guais and his wife, Jeanne Trinquant's parents were Joseph Trinquant &amp; Jeanne Beneteau.<br><br>Louis De Meurant (a weaver) and Jeanne Trinquant only had 2 children:<br>- Marie b. 25/3/1761 and d. 20/9/1766 at le May sur Evre,<br>- Joseph b. 23/2/1768 at le May sur Evre. <br><br>These families lived in the Le May sur Evre – Andrezé area for their whole lives. This information comes from several genealogists in France who have done extensive research on these families. This is typical of my own French ancestors (day labourers)who never moved more than 5-10 kms to a nearby village. In addition, Ferdinand was a Huguenot (protestant) while this family's marriage and births are contained in the parish (Catholic Church) records. There is a 102 year gap in the records (spanning the 1765 birth of Ferdinand) during which the Huguenots were persecuted. <br><br>Some people have also assumed that he was born at, Champagne, Dordogne (24), Aquitaine, South Western France. There is no place with the name “Champagne” in that Department of Dordogne. There is a “Champagnac de Belaire” and a “Campagne”. I have sought info on the first of these from a local genealogist who has checked the parish registers at that time for no result. He has suggested that the name (De) Meurant is not known in that area. Again, the Huguenot/Catholic Church record problem does not help. Both of these places are in western France but nowhere near Le May etc where Demeurant/Trinquant lived, or Frontignac where Ferdinand claimed to have been born.<br>Ferdinand also named his property at Parklea in western Sydney (Australia) “Frontignac” supposedly after the village where he was born. Frontignac (now called Frontignan) is located in the far south of France on the Mediterranean coast in the Department of Herault (34). The Herault archives are online and I have personally searched these for the commune (village) of Frontignan/Frontignac at the time of his birth and there is no record in these archives of his birth. I have checked the current (Insee = postcode) and past (Archives) village names in the Departments of Aube (10), Ardenne (8), Marne (51) and Haute Marne (52) that make up the region of Champagne-Ardenne (a large part of which was known as Champagne until the 1790s). My own family came from Aube. I would be interested to know where this village of Frontignac that you refer to is located. What villages is it near?<br><br>Unfortunately, as well as being a forger, he appears to have been “a little careless with the truth” as evidenced by the interview he had with a Monsieur Peron a visiting French journalist so this makes it even harder to track his French ancestry. <br>I hope that above info is of some assistance to you and wish you luck in tracking his ancestry down!!! <br>2013-03-06 11:41:20Zschwartzbearhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.1.3.1/mb.ashxRe: Ferdinand Meurant 1865 – 1844 b Frontignac Francehttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.1.3/mb.ashx
Am researching my family. I am a direct decendant of Ferdinand Meurant and have noticed the (2008) message re Ferdiand's parents. You say that Louis and Jean are not his parents and that their decendants in France claim they had one son Joseph born in 1863?? This is 100 years after they were married. Also I have located Frontignac Champaigne as a separate village to Frontignan. Could not Ferdinand have been born there with the parents moving or living at Andreze in Maine et Loire?<br>Is there any update on their relationship to Ferdinand? Recent research does seem to establish that they were his parents.<br>Charmaine2013-03-05 10:29:40ZCharmaineBeckethttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.1.3/mb.ashxObjet : patronyme de GUIGNE, DEGUIGNEhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/134.2/mb.ashx
bonjour , au canada en début des années 1700 nous retrouvons des Chastenay (Chastenest ) dit LaGuigne ....et ceci dans l'environnement de Familles Pérusse qui sont mes ancêtres . Avez vous des liens ou informations sur ces deux familles ( Chastenay et Pérusse )2013-02-05 20:22:17Zjocelyn_perussehttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/134.2/mb.ashxRe: Fromage, Grandchamp, Ardenneshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/301.1.1.1/mb.ashx
thanks a lot Angela :)2012-12-20 15:56:32ZConroy12http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/301.1.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Fromage, Grandchamp, Ardenneshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/301.1.1/mb.ashx
<a href="http://archives.cg08.fr/arkotheque/etat_civil/fond_visu_img.php?ref_id=4661" target="_blank">http://archives.cg08.fr/arkotheque/etat_civil/fond_visu_img....</a> PAge 459/733<br><br>Lucie Camille FROMAGE, b 16 apr 1861, in Signy L'Abbaye, daughter of Jean-Baptiste Edmond FROMAGE, wool spinner, 27, and of Adele LALLEMENT, 28, of Signy L'Abbaye.<br><br><br><a href="http://archives.cg08.fr/arkotheque/etat_civil/fond_visu_img.php?ref_id=4661" target="_blank">http://archives.cg08.fr/arkotheque/etat_civil/fond_visu_img....</a> page 186 and 187/733<br><br>Marriage in Signy L'Abbaye on 8 july 1857<br>Jean Baptiste Edmond FROMAGE, wool spinner,, b 6 Aug 1833 in Signy L'Abbaye, son of Jean-Baptiste Edmond FROMAGE, 57, sawyer of wood(?) and of Rosalie Victoire MOUSIERE(??), 53;<br> and Adele LALLEMEN, worker in spinning factory in Signy L'Abbaye, b 5 dec 1832 in Maubert-Fontaine, Ardennes, daughter of Charles Eugene Lallement, 54, and of Marie Louise Madoulet(??), 53, living in Signy L'Abbaye.<br>Witnesses: Emond Fromage, 44, worker in spinning factory, paternal uncle of husband; Jean Baptiste Moulier(??) 56, maternal uncle of husband; Pierre Lallemend, 33 Wife's brother; Louis Laroche, 28, wool spinner, brother-in-law of wife.<br><br>Marriage in Maubert-Fontaine on 16 Aug 1825<br>Charles Eugene Lallement, 22, b Maubert-Fontaine, son of Jean Joseph Lallement, farmer and of Marie Catherine Bocquet;<br> and Catherine Madoulet, 21, b Maubert-Fontaine, daughter of Jacques Madoulet and of Louise Barbiere.<br>The couple wished to recognise their son Pierre b 4 nov 1824 in Maubert-Fontaine.<br>Winesses:Nicolas Bocquet, 44 and Pierre Louis Bocquet,42,, uncles of the husband living in Eteignierer; Jacques Barbiere, 24 first cousin of bride; Jean Madoulet, 30 uncle of bride.<br><br><a href="http://archives.cg08.fr/arkotheque/etat_civil/fond_visu_img.php?ref_id=2963" target="_blank">http://archives.cg08.fr/arkotheque/etat_civil/fond_visu_img....</a> page 26/100<br><br>Marriage in Signy L'Abbaye on 15 July 1828<br>Jean Baptiste Emond FROMAGE, 28, sawyer of wood, b in Signy L'Abbaye, son of late Rigobert Fromage and of Marie Anne Quentin, 54;<br>and Marie Rosalie Victoire HOURLIER, 25, b Rocquigny, living in Signy L'Abbaye, daughter of Pierre Hourlier, 56, domestic worker, and of Marie Louise Mignart(???), 53, living in Signy L'Abbaye.<br>Witnesses include: Emond Fromage, 66, husband's uncle; Francois Hourlier, 52, uncle of bride, of Rocquigny.<br><br><a href="http://archives.cg08.fr/arkotheque/etat_civil/fond_visu_img.php?ref_id=1683" target="_blank">http://archives.cg08.fr/arkotheque/etat_civil/fond_visu_img....</a> page 114/486<br><br><br>I hope this helps. I cannot be sure of all the spellings of the names!<br>Angela2012-12-20 11:50:33Zjambomamahttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/301.1.1/mb.ashxRe: Fromage, Grandchamp, Ardenneshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/301.1/mb.ashx
According to the banns published in 1885 (it's on line), her name was Lucie Camille FROMAGE, b c 1861, a servant living at Bogny Bray in Chateau Regnault, daughter of Jean-Baptiste Edmond FROMAGE a wool spinner who d in Signy L'Abbaye and of Adele LALLEMENT 52 of Signy L'Abbaye.<br><br>Hope this helps,<br>Angela2012-12-20 08:28:12Zjambomamahttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/301.1/mb.ashxFromage, Grandchamp, Ardenneshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/301/mb.ashx
looking for the wife of Emile Antoine Chenonier , she would have been born around 1860, maybe in the area of Grandchamp, Maranwez, St Jean aux Bois Ardennes. Her son was Henri Louis Chenonier born 1887 in Grandchamp, Ardennes, thanks for any help.2012-12-19 16:15:31ZConroy12http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/301/mb.ashxChampagne: Jean Beaugrand Champagnehttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/300/mb.ashx
Seeking any ancestry information of Champagne branche named:Jean Beaugrand Champagne b. 1641 Champagne, Ardennes France, D. 12/5/1699 Richelieu Quebec Canada2012-12-19 00:02:07Znatnjameshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/300/mb.ashxRe: Ferdinand Meurant's Irish descendantshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx
sorry, my fault - yes he was Richard Armstrong, it was his sister Emma that married the Palmer.2012-09-09 20:19:36ZRosneathhttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashxRe: Ferdinand Meurant's Irish descendantshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.2.1.1.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx
Dear John,<br> We too are related but I am an off-spring from Mary Pritchard and Ferdinand. William and Elvira. William went to NZ and was my grandmother's g. grandfather.<br>Kind regards, Diane Charteris.2012-09-09 20:17:22Zdianecharterishttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.2.1.1.1.2.1.2/mb.ashxRe: Ferdinand Meurant's Irish descendantshttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.2.1.1.1.2.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx
No I am not descended from Elvira the child of Ferdinands Third wife. I am descended from Ferdinands second wife; Mary Pritchard (from Wales) William and Elvira were their children. Elvira died in a house fire. William went to New Zealand.<br>kind regards, Diane Charteris.2012-09-09 20:13:15Zdianecharterishttp://boards.ancestry.com/localities.weurope.france.champagne/284.2.1.1.1.2.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx