Do you mean for casualwear? As in, not stuff meant to be worn with traditional tailored clothing?

It could be stuff mean to be worn with traditional tailored clothing, but I mean for the purpose of replacing jeans (which to me don't belong with tailored clothing). It seems to me like jeans are so ubiquitous that it's hard to even think what to wear in their place for certain kinds of outfits. I like linen pants worn casually a lot. And flannel too. But particularly with a leather jacket...it seems like jeans are kind of the only choice. (Disclaimer that I am no leather jacket expert).

It could be stuff mean to be worn with traditional tailored clothing, but I mean for the purpose of replacing jeans (which to me don't belong with tailored clothing). It seems to me like jeans are so ubiquitous that it's hard to even think what to wear in their place for certain kinds of outfits. I like linen pants worn casually a lot. And flannel too. But particularly with a leather jacket...it seems like jeans are kind of the only choice. (Disclaimer that I am no leather jacket expert).

Are you referring only to black leather jackets then? Brown leather jackets look great with less casual stuff as well.

It could be stuff mean to be worn with traditional tailored clothing, but I mean for the purpose of replacing jeans (which to me don't belong with tailored clothing). It seems to me like jeans are so ubiquitous that it's hard to even think what to wear in their place for certain kinds of outfits. I like linen pants worn casually a lot. And flannel too. But particularly with a leather jacket...it seems like jeans are kind of the only choice. (Disclaimer that I am no leather jacket expert).

Hm. The words jeans and chinos here seem like really big terms that represent many things. You can have very smooth cotton chinos, like the poplin-ish stuff Brooks Bros. sell, or the really rugged workwear variety that's sold by Left Field and Mister Freedom. Jeans can also be very workwear-y or generic. Seems like a lot depends on what we're talking about here, and what other things you mostly wear.

I wear jeans with leather jackets a lot, but again, leather jackets can take so many forms, I don't know what we're exactly talking about. MMM/ Rick Owens stuff isn't the same as Aero or Lewis, for example.

Anyway, I have an RRL cowhide cafe racer I wear a lot. It looks like this. I mostly wear it with jeans, but it could also go with some chinos I bought from Left Field. I also have a MMM 5-zip in black lambskin, and could imagine wearing with the same Left Field chinos.

Recently bought this SLP suede jacket. Have only worn it with jeans for now, so I haven't tried much else. It feels like a much dressier leather, however, so maybe some dressier chinos? Like those sold by Panta or something? Haven't really tried it out. I wear a suede Valstar A-1 blouson on occasion, FWIW, with a pair of dressy Ring Jacket chinos.

Also have a couple of leather jackets from Enrico Mandelli. They're very "Italian" in styling, like what you'd find at Cucinelli and Loro Piana or whatever. Those go much better with the kind of stuff talked about at CM. Tailored grey flannels, brushed cotton twills, etc.

Lastly have a Buzz Rickson A-2. Those are definitely only wearable with jeans or workwear chinos. At least from my experience.

I really dislike Holland and not just this World Cup, it's pathetic how their best players flop so much and they did that last World Cup against Brazil when they knocked them out too. If they get past Argentina I hope Germany dominates then because they're only team that hadn't needed to try to fool the refs. They play how real champion play, they just simply go out and beat you.

I totally agree regarding Germany. If anyone deserves to take the cup it is them and they are definitely playing beautiful and honest football.
I just have some family ties to Holland and my hunch says its their year (or maybe three years after the last winter olympics).

When I think of leather and chinos, I think of either the LP/Cucinelli style or older Brando/Dean in a bomber or something. The more current streetwear-y leather jackets look much better with jeans to me. Maybe they only look good with jeans, and a specific kind of jeans. Not really sure about that 5-zip with the chinos.

When I think of leather and chinos, I think of either the LP/Cucinelli style or older Brando/Dean in a bomber or something. The more current streetwear-y leather jackets look much better with jeans to me. Maybe they only look good with jeans, and a specific kind of jeans. Not really sure about that 5-zip with the chinos.

For inspiration, just comb through the last few weeks of fits. Lots of folks here have ditched jeans in favor of textured, uber casual chinos that can be paired with aggressive Rick-esque stuff. But you don't necessarily have to grab high-end trousers from someone like Zam Barrett or Erik Ohstrom. Any sort of rugged twill will work, though you'll probably want some sort of tapered fit (carrot or skinny)

When I think of leather and chinos, I think of either the LP/Cucinelli style or older Brando/Dean in a bomber or something. The more current streetwear-y leather jackets look much better with jeans to me. Maybe they only look good with jeans, and a specific kind of jeans. Not really sure about that 5-zip with the chinos.