"Because of Waterworld, I refuse to watch anything with Costner in it. It's not that I dislike him as an actor, I think he's kinda meh, but not awful. It's just that I associate him with what I consider mental torture and start twitching if I even hear his voice."

That's too bad. Field of Dreams was a really good film.

Virg

Fortunately, I saw that long before Waterworld. It was quite good, but I can't face it again.

I liked the movie, but I don't think that the idea was to necessarily like either of the lead characters. Just laugh at them for their bizarre dance to see who could get the most attention. I imagine a sequel set 10 years into the future where Bob is now the esteemed arrogant psychologist and Dreyfus is a nutty patient that drives him insane...and they switch places again.

It came off to me as "Let's laugh at this guy because he has a mental illness!" - granted, the movie's pretty old by now, but I think that's the part that bothers me the most. (As with any movies with that general setup - "Let's laugh at Napoleon Dynamite because he's a social reject!" "Let's laugh at how the blind guy and the deaf guy could have totally caught that bad guy if they had been sighted and had normal hearing!")

I liked the movie, but I don't think that the idea was to necessarily like either of the lead characters. Just laugh at them for their bizarre dance to see who could get the most attention. I imagine a sequel set 10 years into the future where Bob is now the esteemed arrogant psychologist and Dreyfus is a nutty patient that drives him insane...and they switch places again.

It came off to me as "Let's laugh at this guy because he has a mental illness!" - granted, the movie's pretty old by now, but I think that's the part that bothers me the most. (As with any movies with that general setup - "Let's laugh at Napoleon Dynamite because he's a social reject!" "Let's laugh at how the blind guy and the deaf guy could have totally caught that bad guy if they had been sighted and had normal hearing!")

"Because of Waterworld, I refuse to watch anything with Costner in it. It's not that I dislike him as an actor, I think he's kinda meh, but not awful. It's just that I associate him with what I consider mental torture and start twitching if I even hear his voice."

That's too bad. Field of Dreams was a really good film.

Virg

Fortunately, I saw that long before Waterworld. It was quite good, but I can't face it again.

FoD is one of the few Costner movies that I can stand. Possibly because his best emotion is "dazed and confused."

As an aside, we have an actual costume from Waterworld -- won it at a raffle at Western Costume. My son wore it for Hallowe'en a couple of years ago.

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I liked the movie, but I don't think that the idea was to necessarily like either of the lead characters. Just laugh at them for their bizarre dance to see who could get the most attention. I imagine a sequel set 10 years into the future where Bob is now the esteemed arrogant psychologist and Dreyfus is a nutty patient that drives him insane...and they switch places again.

It came off to me as "Let's laugh at this guy because he has a mental illness!" - granted, the movie's pretty old by now, but I think that's the part that bothers me the most. (As with any movies with that general setup - "Let's laugh at Napoleon Dynamite because he's a social reject!" "Let's laugh at how the blind guy and the deaf guy could have totally caught that bad guy if they had been sighted and had normal hearing!")

+1 for shout out to, I believe, See No Evil, Hear No Evil.

That's the one I actually kind of liked it, but the humor based around the main characters' disabilities really bothered me.

I liked the movie, but I don't think that the idea was to necessarily like either of the lead characters. Just laugh at them for their bizarre dance to see who could get the most attention. I imagine a sequel set 10 years into the future where Bob is now the esteemed arrogant psychologist and Dreyfus is a nutty patient that drives him insane...and they switch places again.

It came off to me as "Let's laugh at this guy because he has a mental illness!" - granted, the movie's pretty old by now, but I think that's the part that bothers me the most. (As with any movies with that general setup - "Let's laugh at Napoleon Dynamite because he's a social reject!" "Let's laugh at how the blind guy and the deaf guy could have totally caught that bad guy if they had been sighted and had normal hearing!")

I didn't get the same impression they were making fun of the mentally ill. I guess to me the movie was making fun of people who pretend to have mental illnesses -- i.e. drama queens. That's not quite so offensive in my book. He was afraid of change, common life situations, illness, and death; he'd get attached to pets and people; he's self-centered. Bob could quite easily conquer these fears when he decided to, which means he wasn't really mentally ill, just immature, which is probably why the children in the movie were especially fond of him.

For See No Evil, Hear No Evil -- granted Richard Prior made a career of being offensive, kind of like Mel Brooks -- but why couldn't a deaf person partnered with a blind person solve a crime? Sure it was a screw-ball comedy but I'd call them role models ...well, OK, sort of.

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"Of the better-known movies that I can remember, Independence Day was one of the worst. It was an action picture with no action. It was a blockbuster that was simply . . . boring. The alien spaceship (or whatever it was) lands on the freeway, and everyone gets out of their cars, stands there, and screams. The spaceship makes the road shake. Everybody stands by their cars and screams. Road shakes. Big noise. Screams. The hero saves the day by . . . typing on a keyboard (to do something completely stupid from a technical POV)."

Are you sure that was Independence Day? It's true that there were a few flash scenes of Jeff Goldblum typing but the synopsis you wrote doesn't fit the movie very well at all (for one thing, no alien ship ever landed anywhere in the whole film unless you're counting them crashing when the human counterattack starts working).

I meant when the alien ships were in the sky attacking (not landing). But maybe I'm remembering a different movie, or maybe I slept through some of it?