Townhall voter to McCain: “I’m mad! I’m really mad!”

posted at 3:50 pm on October 9, 2008 by Allahpundit

Fox cut away at the end right before the next questioner pressed McCain on Obama’s associations. Read Ben Smith to see how that went; the boss is underwhelmed. I watched a bit from earlier in the townhall while cutting the clip and what McCain says here is true — people were yelling about ACORN during every pause. He finally gratifies them with a little outrage near the end.

Note his preface to those comments, though: “We’ve got to act together because all of us are Americans first.” I get the sense Maverick’s not entirely thrilled with the tone these events have taken. As I write this, the Dow’s down 650 and counting.

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At this same event, in response to a question from a woman who is a real estate broker, he calls out Dodd and Frank by name and lays the blame for this financial mess at the feet of the Dems. Rush played the clip earlier today…

But we’re much better served with the base angry (the usual term is “fired up”) and Palin and other surrogates taking point on the attack.

Really.

It’s McCain’s job to look Presidential.

ClintACK on October 9, 2008 at 4:09 PM

Conventional wisdom suggests as much, but I don’t think it’s accurate this time. People are mad, and if McCain isn’t also and continues talking about amorphous “corruption” while continuing with business as usual advocating bipartisanship and promoting socialist programs of his own, it only makes him appear out of touch rather than presidential.

I’m going to get a crack at it on Monday’s rally. I might just get a chant started along the lines of stand and fight.

He needs to, or we are all screwed.

Marine_Bio on October 9, 2008 at 4:18 PM

Marine…try to get ‘Cuda’s stance on immigration….then, lambast McCain on his “God’s children” that are costing us aobut $53 billion a year. Tell him, we have had enough. It is time to stop paying for illegal aliens.

Notice how every time he takes a step towards greater anger or harsher attacks, the “base,” or at least the most vocal members of it, yell “MORE! LOUDER!” He’s got to ride this wave, not watch it crash with him in it.

Give him a break – NO ONE can predict the the emotions of a mob with a million members. Furthermore, if he wins, he’s wants to have something left to govern, and some way to govern it. It’s a lot easier for Barack Obama, who presumes that upon victory he’ll have both houses of Congress also under control – and a mandate to govern from the left. Mav COULD roll the dice on a massive wave reversing every historical pattern and prognostication, and sweeping the Dems out instead – but the odds of that are pretty damn low. You’d have to take the anger at this Townhall and multiply it by around 100 or so, I’d estimate.

And give him credit. It’s not just lame bipartisanship or even the tactic of winning from the center. When he says country first he means it. It suits him and I think it suits us to have him as the “steady hand” the country turns to, not the rabble rouser who blows it all to smithereens. He’s not goint to be responsible for tearing the country apart, just to gain power.

At this same event, in response to a question from a woman who is a real estate broker, he calls out Dodd and Frank by name and lays the blame for this financial mess at the feet of the Dems. Rush played the clip earlier today…

TheBigOldDog on October 9, 2008 at 4:19 PM

Yep. And then he talked about ACORN. 10 states, more registered voters than actual voters, multiple registrations for the same name.

The guy hit all the high points.

but you “conservatives” just will never be satisfied until they see Obama sitting at that desk in the Oval Office.

For some reason, nobody seems to want to highlight McCain’s answer on that except for Limbaugh on his radio show.

funky chicken on October 9, 2008 at 4:21 PM

Chicken, how much play is that going to get in the MSM. None. Zip.

Now, he needs to name names during say, a more prominent place and time, when all the networks are broadcasting a big gathering. Say, I have it. Name names at the debate in a clean, concise manner that even the One cannot debunk.
And have an answer when the One says it was about the “deregulation” talking point.

CNN doesnt have a WORD about ACORN on their fornt website page..but they do mention Tina Fey and Todd Palin. Media in America is gone..I call on fox to expand to 4 channels and also to put out a USA Today type format newspaper which is tailored to local markets.

Allow the constituents to bring up these questions, wherein they can then respond accordingly…..

So that, when the MSM starts ragging on them for it, they can just say, “We didn’t ask that question, we simply responded to a question from one of the rallies. People are concerned about it and they should be.”

Don’t believe me?

It already happened.

Didn’t you catch that in one of Palin’s interviews?

I forget which is was, but it was in the last few days.
– Treasure hunt ahead for those who didn’t catch this -

I am mad as hell too. I am a conservative, but I also recognize that we are in a situation that has not good answer by truly conservative means. That is because we waited too damned long to solve the problem and now the federal government is the only organization with the resources to keep us out of a depression.

Yes, my instinct is to tell the companies to live with their greed. The problem is that the companies will squeeze every one of is until we choke on their way down. How many of you have had a credit card company PURPOSELY wait to post your payment so they can hit you with a late charge and raise your interest? It has happened to me more than once. There is a LOT of dirty business going on and we have let it go on much too long.

I think it is time to tell the Republicans they really need to work at being apologetically conservative and clean house big time.

I wish I’d have been there. I’m mad as Hell myself. My company is about to be acquired by a larger rival and I’ll be laid off after the new year. Half the positions I’ve applied for at other companies have been put on hold due to the economy. I want the blood of the GD clowns in CONgress who created this mess. I’m sick and tired of them NEVER being held accountable and NEVER willing to accept responsibility for their actions. I want Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Charles Schumer, Franklin Raines, Maxine Waters, and a room full of other economic illiterates strung up along PA Ave.

Olson Johnson: [trying to convince everyone to stay in Rock Ridge] What are we made of? Our fathers came across the prairies… fought Indians… fought drought, fought locusts, fought Dix… remember when Richard Dix tried to take over this town? Well we didn’t give up then… and by gum, we’re not gonna give up now!

Everytime “Hussein” or “terrorist” or “socialist” or “traitor” is mentioned in the same sentence as Obama, a swing/indie voter moves further and further left.

cornfedbubba on October 9, 2008 at 3:58 PM

…and they talk about an uninformed electorate! They’re not the least bit out of touch…this shows that they know exactly what they’re getting….

“We’ve got to act together because all of us are Americans first.”

…does that mean that you make common cause with, say, David Duke? Duke’s an American…an accident of geography, but true nonetheless….

…do we make common cause with Louis Farrakhan? Farrakhan seems to have no earthly idea what it means to be an American, has little use for tolerance, and is a race pimp of legendary proportions, but he’s technically an American….

…then, we could enlist the ironically named Don Black of Stormfront, a site encapsulating Hannah Arendt’s banality of evil…an American…down in sunny Florida, I think….

…or…orrrrrrrrrrrr…we could choose our friends more carefully, and recognize — as George W. never did — that having some folks on your team is an invitation to colonic blockage in the body politic…

…this mania for allowing people with politically abhorrent and nationally destructive prejudices, histories and agendas is eating the McCain team from within, it would seem…there are such things as enemies, you know…and the old maxim about “…but keep enemies closer” doesn’t mean that you empower, enable, and arm them, and then turn your back as they eat your children.

I’ll repeat it again, since McCain seems to be reveling in the ugly and lynch mob-like tone his rallies are taking on: if anything happens to Senator Obama, McCain has blood on his hands.

philnewkirk on October 9, 2008 at 4:28 PM

The lynch mob is based on your boy Hussein and crack pots like you and nothing McCain has said. Run, hide since we can’t be held responsible for you and the rest of the socialists trying to destroy this nation. Run!!!!!!

I call………… show me your cards. I believe you are bluffing, “Mr. My Friends…”

Unless he is willing to spell out how the Democrats have caused a world wide panic and the collapse of the American financial system by loaning a Trillion dollars of money to people who could not pay it back in the form of “social engineering” and votes, made millions on the deal and are getting away scott free, names “names”, calls for arrests, or testify under oath and the penalty of purgery, then you have no hand “My Friend….”…………..

McCain really could have got in there and said some good stuff at the debate and he didn’t.

Instead he reinforced an entitlement and for his gimme question at the end – a perfect lead in for Ayers and Alinsky – he gave a speech about serving his country.

The question was in essence, ‘what don’t you know’? McCain could have said there’s a lot I don’t know; the last person to know everything was Sir Francis Bacon and that was a LONG time ago. So I surround myself with honourable people, smart people, etc. Obama, however, counts among his inner circle a man who presided over a $3 billion misstatement of Fannie Mae earnings, and a man who doesn’t regret setting bombs in the 60’s and would do more.

Whose advisers would you want giving council to the next President?

I think that might have sewn it up.

So now he’s on the stump and he’s still a reluctant hitter a little bit, pulling punches. Saw on Drudge but can’t get to the article, something I long suspected – apparently there’s about 5 million fraudulent loans to illegals. I don’t know about you guys, but our hard earned nest egg is down by something like 25%; I just can’t bear to check it again. I am furious, absolutely white hot furious. I’m stuck sitting on my hands while Congress passes bailout pork I don’t want and delinquent homeowners get the moon.

Yet McCain can’t get it in him enough to say ‘when I’m in charge there’s going to be hearings and investigations into Fannie and Freddie and it stops NOW’. Gosh almighty, he needs to step it up a notch.

This and future elections are going to be those that pay taxes vs. those that pay little to none and receive “freebies” from the government. The list of dependents grows every year. We’re being enslaved by our fellow citizens.

McCain is going to lose if the only solution he has to lift up our spirits in these economically troubling times is to demonize a patriot like Senator Obama and his wonderful and intelligent family.
philnewkirk on October 9, 2008 at 4:26 PM

Hehehehehehehe….now you just KNOW that ol’ phil is trolling for remarks.

McCain is going to lose if the only solution he has to lift up our spirits in these economically troubling times is to demonize a patriot like Senator Obama and his wonderful and intelligent family. – philnewkirk on October 9, 2008 at 4:26 PM

If the letters in Phil’s screen name are carefully re-arranged, they spell A-L-P-H-I-E

McCain needs to call Obama out in the debates–the Democrats forcing Fannie and Freddie to make the bad loans, the Ayers/Annenberg connection, ACORN, the whole nine yards.

McCain seems to be a little like George W. Bush–a decent speaker in front of a friendly, cheering crowd, but hesitant in front of a large TV audience. He needs to bring what he says on the campaign trail to the debate, and to TV interviews.

Maybe the old pro needs to get fire in the belly from a younger woman: Sarah Palin!

I saw the clip at lunch today.
I did not see if anyone mentioned this or not, but during the rallys for McCain the people chant USA, USA, USA.
At the rallys for Obama they Chant O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma.
I guess that pretty much sums it up. McCain and his supporters are for the country and Obama and his supporters are for Obama.

There has been an ongoing fight in the Seattle area, with similarities to what we’re seeing in general. A local leftist organization wanted to put a homeless tent camp on public land, and they were poised to do it with the support of the Democrat King County government (they had previously only been allowed on private land, like church property – this was and is being advanced by an ACORN-like group, dedicated to forcing homeless issues into the public and especially into wealthy areas – they’re called SHARE/WHEEL).

When it was discovered what their plan was, the people who lived nearby the proposed site went CRAZY. They called the King County councilwoman (a Democrat) who represented them into a meeting at a church, and one man in particular absolutely LOST it. His rant was on television, and he became somewhat of a local celebrity (he’s a very cool guy, btw, I’ve met him several times), and people who were more mild-mannered and reserved rallied behind him.

The Democrat councilwoman looked absolutely shell-shocked. I don’t think she had ever really been confronted before.

Long story short: The neighborhood home owners were able to keep this group off of public property – a major victory (though in Seattle, the same group persists in this “goal” today).

Some people will ridicule this man from Wisconsin (already happening on YouTube), but it’s this type of fire and passion that can wake conservative people from their slumber to oppose the things liberals are pushing on them at every level of government.

Having seen it myself locally, I can say this sort of thing can be REALLY good.

I’m sick and tired of all the tepid BS coming from McCain. He needs to get angry and call Obama out for his deceptions. He needs to quit worrying about Democrats calling him a racist and unload on these bastards.

Last time I spoke with you you had to bring the husband to the hospital. Is everything okay?

ManlyRash on October 9, 2008 at 4:38 PM

Thanks for asking, Manly. No, we have a night clinic thru our doctor so you don’t have to go to the ER. He had a very bad sinus infection. A couple of days later, I came down with bronchitis. Have missed my HA buddies.

but you “conservatives” just will never be satisfied until they see Obama sitting at that desk in the Oval Office.

funky chicken on October 9, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Lay off the pipe, funky.

We’re voting for the guy,(okay, probably not phil) but if he can’t connect with indies and Blue Dog Dems and the undecideds, energize the people that aren’t part of the base (another segment of the voting public he wasn’t able to energize until he brought Palin onboard) he’s gonna get his clock cleaned on election day.

Right now the guy’s exhibiting all the energy of Chernobyl…15 years after the meltdown.

That doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in undecideds and motivate them to cast their ballot for him.

Describes my mood to a tee. The economy is going south, the corporate giveaway passed last Friday didn’t even slow the decline. Yet less than a month away from the elections and our “leaders” are putting up ads about how erratic McCain is or just when Obama first met his terrorist buddy Ayers.

Here’s an unconventional idea: How about dealing with the economy you *^*%&%^ morons! Yeah that other stuff is significant but I’m more interested in knowing just how you idiots plan on dealing with the economic concerns of ordinary Americans.

…Obama sat in a pew for 20 years listening to “preaching” which made the revelations of Mr. McCain’s team look like mother’s milk to straight whiskey! Many of his mentors, political enablers, gurus and sidekicks advocated the overthrow — violent if necessary — of this nation….

…and here you are worried, even predicting, that somebody might — heaven forbid — take their some sort of action against him….

…it makes for dramatic copy, but it adds nothing to the national discussion….

Thanks for asking, Manly. No, we have a night clinic thru our doctor so you don’t have to go to the ER. He had a very bad sinus infection. A couple of days later, I came down with bronchitis. Have missed my HA buddies. – HornetSting on October 9, 2008 at 4:46 PM

Yet McCain can’t get it in him enough to say ‘when I’m in charge there’s going to be hearings and investigations into Fannie and Freddie and it stops NOW’. Gosh almighty, he needs to step it up a notch.

linlithgow on October 9, 2008 at 4:35 PM

He did. Today. In Wisconsin in answer to an excellent question from a realtor.

Just because allahpundit doesn’t post video doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Limbaugh played it 3 times in a row.

And then went back to his kneejerk insults towards McCain. But the answer was awesome. Surely somebody will post the video, right? Since it was what people really are hungering to hear?

. . . Here’s an unconventional idea: How about dealing with the economy you *^*%&%^ morons! Yeah that other stuff is significant but I’m more interested in knowing just how you idiots plan on dealing with the economic concerns of ordinary Americans.

highhopes on October 9, 2008 at 4:48 PM

The solution is find the guilty bastards and jail them but keep the damn government and its parasitic politicians out of our free market. And that includes Obama and McCain.

I’ll repeat it again, since McCain seems to be reveling in the ugly and lynch mob-like tone his rallies are taking on: if anything happens to Senator Obama, McCain has blood on his hands.

philnewkirk on October 9, 2008 at 4:28 PM

You forgot the sarc tag.
That was funny, a little black humor (excuse the pun), but still funny.
I remember someone posting the same (as a sarcastic remark also) when the liberals were trying to destroy our monuments, conservative voters were being beat up, liberal professors claiming their cars were “keyed” and it ended up being them, and the conservative speakers on university campuses being attacked and ran off.
I have never seen a liberal speaker at a college campus attacked by a conservative.
So your humor is right on, as sarcastic as it gets, thinking the conservatives are the threatening ones, when it has been the liberals who attack and riot…great sarcastic post.
You took the wind right out of the liberal sails…

And then went back to his kneejerk insults towards McCain. But the answer was awesome. Surely somebody will post the video, right? Since it was what people really are hungering to hear?

funky chicken on October 9, 2008 at 4:50 PM

Chicken, if I didn’t know any better, I’d think you were an Obama voter.
‘If anyone says anything AGAINST the One’….well, we can vote for McCain and yet, not agree with how he is running his campaign.
Tell the truth. The only reason McCain is drawing the crowds and getting the conservative vote is because of Sarah.

PEOPLE NEED TO GET MAD ABOUT THIS GROUP. I WOULD RATHER LISTEN TO A LOOP OF THE VIDEO OF PELOSI BLAMING THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS ON BUSH ALL DAY THAN HEAR WHAT THESE ACORN FOLKS ARE DOING TO THIS ELECTION. THERE SHOULD BE NATIONAL OUTRAGE ABOUT THIS. THIS GROUP IS DESTROYING OUR DEMOCRATIC ELECTION SYSTEM.

I did not see if anyone mentioned this or not, but during the rallys for McCain the people chant USA, USA, USA.
At the rallys for Obama they Chant O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma.
I guess that pretty much sums it up. McCain and his supporters are for the country and Obama and his supporters are for Obama.

my little business which has three employees and myself, does about 1.2M a year (we even had grown this year) but with THE ONE and the socialistic democrates I really fear what may happen to my little business and am even thinking of selling it, but then what? The Mac has got to get some big ones between now and the election.

I guess the “Socialists taking over the country” comment was a bit close to home, seeing as how McCain supported the bailout, and is now proposing the Government become your landlord and real estate agent.

Of course, investors are afraid because the one is ahead in the polls. Once people start to know him, his poll numbers will begin to fall, and the market has an inverse relationship to the probability of an Obama win.

And McCain still doesn’t get it…his “friends” sold us out, the dems sold us out and ruined our economy, or at least sat by and watched…and finally, after being publicly called out, McCain lets out a squeak.
It is hard to believe that just a few weeks ago, both parties had their convention, and not one thing was mentioned about the economic situation, not one thing…all of those “masterminds” in all of the campaigns, and not one person knew what fate was waiting two weeks later.
Unbelievable…