RE :”-claim it is principle, get crushed ..... Is that not the conservative way? That is the way many, many here think and act.”

I appreciate you seeing it.

This cult like behaviour: “We cant win. Everyone is against us. Lets lose on principle, again, and again, then blame the media and act surprised”

But in the end they always (at least the past two years) give O what he wants. So what principle is that?

Here's some simple rules no one ELSE will say:

1) If you win your primary and lose that seat to a Dem, dont blame voter fraud, the MSM, or (put excuse here) ...that is your failure.

2) If you vote against a bill that your house controls and it passes anyway (like budget control) after losing a visible public confrontation and the voters turn on your party and then O signs it into law, THEN that is losing not winning. Dont tell me a principle was served by that.