Just started playing this and it seems good, but I couldn't figger out how to quit to desktop, so I alt-tabbed out of it and closed it with Task Manager, but there's gotta be a better way than that, right?

Yes...the Escape key brings up the Quit menu, but the 3 buttons on it are Load, Resume, and New Game---no Quit button. And the only thing I could do from there was alt-tab it to the desktop's taskbar---hitting Escape or clicking on that screen had no effect. And there's no manual for the game, either. Also, I played up to the first zone-thru, but even that didn't give me a Quit button on the Quit menu screen.

Thanks, Ewil. Are you ready for this, L4L? The reason I didn't see it before is that that button and a few others at the top of that screen are blacked out and only highlight if you happen to mouse over them. That's some pretty good game design there. And yeah, that's another note of sarcasm.

The game has locked up on me twice so far. Weird because it runs real smooth until it does that. It auto-patches when it launches, so maybe they'll fix that in the days ahead. Be a shame if they don't, cuz putting up with that for long is out of the question.

I agree 100% with the fellow boomers that recommend a keypad, I have the Cyber Snipa, I bought it for a different reason, however I can notice it doesn't require wrist movement like a normal keyboard.

I would also recommend a mouse with side buttons, that is 5 buttons in total that can be programmed for most games and should allow yo to play games that require more actions. These take some taxes away from the keyboard. Waking still would take the WSAD.

looney4labs,

I certainly do miss them. However The Witcher 2 comes with a very good almost 100 page manual

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The game applied a new patch at launch and didn't freeze up on me during a replay of the first area, so hopefully that won't happen again. Also, I enabled its console to play in god mode, so I should be able to make it through this. The game's quite good, but you get mobbed, of course, and the few boss monsters in the first area give you trepidation of what's to come, and it always takes me a while to get familiar with the mechanics of a new game, and it is, after all, a chick and her ferret against all the evil hordes and hellspawn they can muster.

I've been playing the game for a while and still haven't figured out a small percentage of "how to's" but for the most part finally by hit and miss figured out the most important actions.

I submitted a question to Runic asking about a game manual and got this response:

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I do apologize for the delay in responding back to you.Unfortunately we have no plans for a game manual for Torchlight II.You may want to check out our forums to see if there maybe some information there that maybe all to assist you.We do apologize for any inconvenience.All the best,

There are a whole bunch of sarcastic remarks that come to mind but I'll just let this email speak for itself.

What--not even a readme file?

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