Whoa....is that reluctance I sense? If you're as sure of your 'kingship' as you claim, why not go test it by breaking a law in front of a cop? Why the sudden excuses and evasions?

If your claims have *actual* merit, what do you have to lose?

Quoting: J 34504191

Not proof, you claimed no action needs to be taken by me, I am subject to your laws, so prove it. Why do you need ME to perform when you are the one claiming dominion and jurisdiction over me WITHOUT my consent or action?

You cannot have it both ways, either your words have power to make me perform or they do not, which is it?

I say. You were born right? When did you consent to the system with FULL DISCLOSURE to terms and conditions? When did you give the corporation USA and the corporation called the State jurisdiction over you?

Nope. You just tell us your personal opinions. WHich have absolutely no legal relevance.

And who says that consent is required for the law to be applied to you?

You, citing yourself. Which is meaningless. Again, my little 'sovereign citizens', just because you imagine yet another nonsense 'loophole' doesn't mean that the law or the courts are obligated to follow it.

Not proof, you claimed no action needs to be taken by me, I am subject to your laws, so prove it. Why do you need ME to perform when you are the one claiming dominion and jurisdiction over me WITHOUT my consent or action?

More excuses for why you won't possibly put your claims to the test. Oh, you'll babble and declare that no laws apply to you.

But you know that's nonsense. You know that if you get caught breaking a law, the law will be applied to you. If you speed and get caught, you'll get a ticket. If you spit on a cop, you'll be arrested.

Which is why you're desperately scrambling to find an excuse, any excuse, to avoid putting your claims to the test.

Not proof, you claimed no action needs to be taken by me, I am subject to your laws, so prove it. Why do you need ME to perform when you are the one claiming dominion and jurisdiction over me WITHOUT my consent or action?

More excuses for why you won't possibly put your claims to the test. Oh, you'll babble and declare that no laws apply to you.

But you know that's nonsense. You know that if you get caught breaking a law, the law will be applied to you. If you speed and get caught, you'll get a ticket. If you spit on a cop, you'll be arrested.

Which is why you're desperately scrambling to find an excuse, any excuse, to avoid putting your claims to the test.

I say. You were born right? When did you consent to the system with FULL DISCLOSURE to terms and conditions? When did you give the corporation USA and the corporation called the State jurisdiction over you?

Nope. You just tell us your personal opinions. WHich have absolutely no legal relevance.

And who says that consent is required for the law to be applied to you?

You, citing yourself. Which is meaningless. Again, my little 'sovereign citizens', just because you imagine yet another nonsense 'loophole' doesn't mean that the law or the courts are obligated to follow it.

Quoting: J 34504191

Realize J everyone has different beliefs, and your replies what are they considered, opinions, the truth, half truth, or lies? Reflect and think for a sec. what you are saying.

And your opinion and message is meaningless to those who believe different than you and may have meaning to those who believe the same as you.

I say. You were born right? When did you consent to the system with FULL DISCLOSURE to terms and conditions? When did you give the corporation USA and the corporation called the State jurisdiction over you?

Nope. You just tell us your personal opinions. WHich have absolutely no legal relevance.

And who says that consent is required for the law to be applied to you?

You, citing yourself. Which is meaningless. Again, my little 'sovereign citizens', just because you imagine yet another nonsense 'loophole' doesn't mean that the law or the courts are obligated to follow it.

Quoting: J 34504191

What you're citing J is meaningless because none of us ever agreed to the system you're going on about

The people have never consented to the system because there needs to be full disclosure for consent

The system is a deception of the highest order

There are no Sovereign citizens as you claim.

I said everybody is born Sovereign and the fiction you keep talking about has no jurisdiction

Please prove J that those fictions have jurisdiction over me you or anybody else. You can't LOL

ealize J everyone has different beliefs, and your replies what are they considered, opinions, the truth, half truth, or lies? Reflect and think for a sec. what you are saying.

Anyone can have any 'belief' they want. But neither your beliefs nor mine mandate that the law or the courts adhere to them. That's what so many here just don't get. They consider *themselves* the law (or in 'mr king's' case.....give empty lip service to the idea). And make up whatever pseudo-legal 'limit', loophole or exception to the law they like.

But these limits, loopholes and exceptions don't exist just because you 'believe' they do. If you want to make a legal argument, quote the law or the courts.

Not yourself. And that's all the 'sovereign citizens' guys do. Is quote themselves, insisting they must be right because they say they are.

Which doesn't work really well in the outside this little bubble. From the quality of responses I've gotten, it doesn't work really well inside it either.

I say. You were born right? When did you consent to the system with FULL DISCLOSURE to terms and conditions? When did you give the corporation USA and the corporation called the State jurisdiction over you?

Nope. You just tell us your personal opinions. WHich have absolutely no legal relevance.

And who says that consent is required for the law to be applied to you?

You, citing yourself. Which is meaningless. Again, my little 'sovereign citizens', just because you imagine yet another nonsense 'loophole' doesn't mean that the law or the courts are obligated to follow it.

Quoting: J 34504191

What you're citing J is meaningless because none of us ever agreed to the system you're going on about

The people have never consented to the system because there needs to be full disclosure for consent

The system is a deception of the highest order

There are no Sovereign citizens as you claim.

I said everybody is born Sovereign and the fiction you keep talking about has no jurisdiction

Please prove J that those fictions have jurisdiction over me you or anybody else. You can't LOL

ealize J everyone has different beliefs, and your replies what are they considered, opinions, the truth, half truth, or lies? Reflect and think for a sec. what you are saying.

Anyone can have any 'belief' they want. But neither your beliefs nor mine mandate that the law or the courts adhere to them. That's what so many here just don't get. They consider *themselves* the law (or in 'mr king's' case.....give empty lip service to the idea). And make up whatever pseudo-legal 'limit', loophole or exception to the law they like.

But these limits, loopholes and exceptions don't exist just because you 'believe' they do. If you want to make a legal argument, quote the law or the courts.

Not yourself. And that's all the 'sovereign citizens' guys do. Is quote themselves, insisting they must be right because they say they are.

Which doesn't work really well in the outside this little bubble. From the quality of responses I've gotten, it doesn't work really well inside it either.

I say. You were born right? When did you consent to the system with FULL DISCLOSURE to terms and conditions? When did you give the corporation USA and the corporation called the State jurisdiction over you?

Nope. You just tell us your personal opinions. WHich have absolutely no legal relevance.

And who says that consent is required for the law to be applied to you?

You, citing yourself. Which is meaningless. Again, my little 'sovereign citizens', just because you imagine yet another nonsense 'loophole' doesn't mean that the law or the courts are obligated to follow it.

Quoting: J 34504191

What you're citing J is meaningless because none of us ever agreed to the system you're going on about

The people have never consented to the system because there needs to be full disclosure for consent

The system is a deception of the highest order

There are no Sovereign citizens as you claim.

I said everybody is born Sovereign and the fiction you keep talking about has no jurisdiction

Please prove J that those fictions have jurisdiction over me you or anybody else. You can't LOL

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1096692

He thinks he has jurisdiction because HE thinks he does.

No, wait, its because of Geography.

No, wait, its because of the court.

No, its the law.

No, its because I have to go "wave my dick" at a cop.

Hmmm, something does not add up with this J dude.

LOL!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31297288

If the Chinese invaded J would say they have jurisdiction over him. He loves being "owned" which is why we're "owning" him.

I say. You were born right? When did you consent to the system with FULL DISCLOSURE to terms and conditions? When did you give the corporation USA and the corporation called the State jurisdiction over you?

Nope. You just tell us your personal opinions. WHich have absolutely no legal relevance.

And who says that consent is required for the law to be applied to you?

You, citing yourself. Which is meaningless. Again, my little 'sovereign citizens', just because you imagine yet another nonsense 'loophole' doesn't mean that the law or the courts are obligated to follow it.

Quoting: J 34504191

What you're citing J is meaningless because none of us ever agreed to the system you're going on about

The people have never consented to the system because there needs to be full disclosure for consent

The system is a deception of the highest order

There are no Sovereign citizens as you claim.

I said everybody is born Sovereign and the fiction you keep talking about has no jurisdiction

Please prove J that those fictions have jurisdiction over me you or anybody else. You can't LOL

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1096692

He thinks he has jurisdiction because HE thinks he does.

No, wait, its because of Geography.

No, wait, its because of the court.

No, its the law.

No, its because I have to go "wave my dick" at a cop.

Hmmm, something does not add up with this J dude.

LOL!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31297288

If the Chinese invaded J would say they have jurisdiction over him. He loves being "owned" which is why we're "owning" him.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1096692

I doubt he would "say" anything, his mouth would be busy, if you know what I mean!

Not running, demanding proof of jurisdiction, a perfectly legal demand. YOU claimed you have, now prove it!

Of course you're running. You know full well that your claims are useless nonsense. You know full well that if you break the law in front of a cop and he sees you, you'll be charged with a crime. You know full well that the law applies to you.

Which is why when challenged to put your theory to the test....

.....its just an endless series of useless excuses why you can't. Keep that tail tucked between tender cheeks, buddy.