Ron Paul: The war propagandists are hoping for an “incident” that would justify attack on Iran

As the health care reform battle rages, Ron Paul points out the need to also keep paying attention to developments in foreign policy and discusses recent events that could have long-term effects.

Date of recording: 12/22/2009

Transcript

Ron Paul: This past week the Senate has been working overtime, even throughout the weekend. And they’re very much involved in discussing medical care. It is assumed that they may even be voting on Christmas Eve. This is a very, very important subject and involves all Americans. And yet I see that this debate sometimes is just on the margin. The government has already been involved in medical care for a long time. They probably participate in about 60% or 65% of everybody getting medical care already. So the argument there is what’s it going to increase to? We know we’re not going to get total socialized medicine, and yet there is going to be more government involvement and maybe an undermining of the medical savings account. So it is very, very important. But the debate is, how much more government are we going to have, and the real debate on whether the government should even be involved or not isn’t even brought up. But even though that got almost all the attention over the weekend and it’s going to continue to be in the news, I think there are some other very important things going on around the world involving our foreign policy.

Just recently we heard about the skirmish on the border between Iran and Iraq over an oil well. A total of 11 Iranians were said to have gone into the Iraqi area, even though this well is right on the border. It happens both ways; the Iraqis go in and they occupy the well for a while, and then the Iranians go in and they occupy it.

But I don’t think this is all an accident right now because since we went into Iraq the government of Iraq and Iran are much closer together. They’re all Shiites now. And I think it’s in the interest of the neocons to stir up trouble between the Iraqi government and the Iranian government and if they can find something like this, I think they will encourage it.

And it is clear the American government has already said they strongly endorse what the Iraqi government is doing in order to confront the Iranians. Of course, there is no such thing as the Iraqi government; we are the Iraqi government. So everything that happens there is our responsibility. Just as it is with what’s going on in Yemen. The more we stir up trouble there, the so called enemies of America (those who would like to get us off their land) move around. They move from Afghanistan over into Pakistan. Then we have to go and start bombing Pakistan. But they also have moved to Yemen. So our puppet government, the Saudis, started bombing them and it is understood that some of our cruise missiles were also used or our Predators were used to do some bombing too, killing civilians and just stirring up even more trouble.

So the principle of preventive war is alive and well. And the war is spreading; it’s going into Pakistan, now it’s going into Yemen. The border dispute between the Iranians and the Iraqis is designed, I believe, to make sure that the American people are conditioned that some day we are going to have to take on the Iranian government. We have to have regime change, is our policy.

Just last week we had this major vote on putting tough sanctions on the Iranians where they could not even import gasoline, not even from another country. The theory behind these sanctions is that even if a country like China does any dealings and exports refined fuel into Iran, then we have to punish the Chinese, which is foolhardy. It’s not going to work, it causes more trouble. So we have border disputes, we have the sanctions that we have put on. And it looks like we are determined to stir up trouble there. Not only do we accuse the Iranians that someday they might have a nuclear weapon, we ignore the fact that our CIA says that they have no concrete evidence that they have worked on a bomb since 2003.

Also, just this last week it was said that the Iranians are working on a trigger mechanism for a nuclear weapon. The odds of our national security being threatened by the government of Iran is just preposterous. It’s a third world country, it can’t even survive without importing their gasoline. They don’t have an army, air force, intercontinental ballistic missiles. And they don’t have a nuclear weapon and yet we nearly get hysterical about this. And besides, where are we going to get all this money to expand our presence in the Middle East? We just passed a military budget of 636 billion dollars. Well, that’s the budget for the military that we can see and touch. But there are many other 100s of billions of dollars involved in our national defense. And it is estimated that we spend well over a trillion dollars a year maintaining our empire.

So there are the economic consequences, and there is also the threat to our national security by spreading ourselves too thin. And it seems like there is no backing off. At the present time this concentration on medical care, although I grant you is very, very important, I think what’s going on over in the Middle East has much more serious consequences not only to our financial situation, but to us as a nation and for our national security.

So my intent is to continue to pursue a sound fiscal policy of living within our means, getting the government out of our lives and out of the economy and, of course, coming up with a sensible foreign policy where we don’t just go looking for trouble. And right now it seems like those who promote the war propaganda and try to condition the American people to be prepared for the bombing of Iran or some other incident are just begging and pleading for the incident that will rally the American people so that they can support going into Iran. Hopefully we will wake up before that happens.

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The Lord Lord abort christianity. you do like calling him lord dont you.Regardless of what he thinks about it. there wont be any stinking religion after judgement day its all going to the lake of fire. Nothing but God with us and the unconditional liberating love that never ends. time will end yes it end sooner than you think but when time ends your religion gets left behind and only the lovers of god remain. jesus died for me? then why do you people keep crucifying me with religion? jesus wants nothing to do with being your king or lord or even a stinking republican. Good God bury Irans theocracy under a sea of glass just for being a religious state. i offer him the faith of my fathers; the US Air Force for his service to that end, the only ones that love worthy of his name. if that aint good enough may the Israeli air force do an encore for an excellent OPERA. Jesus nutzis love me or leave the hell alone with your stinking religious ego mania.god is love and religion the egomaniac devil (by a preponderance of evidence)
God abort your damn religion and the Iranians too..

The Bible on the Poor
or, Why God is a liberal
The Bible contains more than 300 verses on the poor, social justice, and God's deep concern for both. This page contains a wide sample of them, and some reflections. It's aimed at anyone who takes the Bible seriously.
As you read these passages, you will very likely feel a good deal of resistance (possibly at first manifesting itself as indifference). American churches have departed strongly from Biblical values in these areas, and even created a rationalization-- "prosperity theology"-- for rejecting them. It takes time and reflection to get past this misteaching.

But try to get past the resistance. Spiritual growth doesn't come from what goes down easily, or what we like to hear and read. It comes from what's different, and even difficult.

This page can easily be used as the basis for a Bible study. I tried writing it like one, but ultimately decided that web pages just don't work that way. It makes a smashing good one, though; if you want to try, replace the commentary with questions. The best questions to ask are those without a fixed answer (e.g. "Why does Jesus say this?" or "What did you learn from these verses?").

God's concern for the poor
In this section we are not yet concerned with what the believer should think or do for the poor, but with God's thoughts. Though we often forget poverty and oppression, it is clear from the Bible that they are always on God's mind.
Deut. 26:5-9. The Egyptians treated us harshly and afflicted us, and imposed hard labor on us. Then we cried to the LORD, the God of our fathers, and the LORD heard our voice and saw our affliction and our toil and our oppression; and the LORD brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and with great terror and with signs and wonders; and He has brought us to... this land flowing with milk and honey.
Luke 4:16-21. And He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up; and as was His custom, He entered the synagogue on the Sabbath, and stood up to read... "The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, because He appointed Me to preach the gospel to the poor. He has sent Me to proclaim release to the captives, and recovery of sight to the blind, to set free those who are downtrodden, to proclaim the favorable year of the LORD... Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing."

Ps. 140:12. I know that the LORD will maintain the cause of the afflicted, and justice for the poor.

Is. 25:4. For You have been a defense for the helpless, a defense for the needy in his distress.

Ps. 10:14. The unfortunate commits himself to You; You have been the helper of the orphan... O LORD, You have heard the desire of the humble; You will strengthen their heart, You will incline Your ear to vindicate the orphan and the oppressed.

Is 41:17. The afflicted and needy are seeking water, but there is none, and their tongue is parched with thirst. I, the LORD, will answer them Myself, as the God of Israel I will not forsake them.

Luke 6:20-21. Blessed are you who are poor, for yours in the kingdom of God. Blessed are you who hunger now, for you shall be satisfied. Blessed are you who weep now, for you shall laugh.

James 2:5. Did not God choose the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him?

Commentary: I think it's fair to say that American attitudes toward the poor-- and perhaps not just in America-- are mostly disdain and fear. They're dangerous and different. Sometimes there's a suspicion that their condition is their own fault, that they're simply lazy or inferior. Other Americans are more kind-hearted, but prefer not to look at the poor too closely; it's depressing, and they're surely not fun people to be with.
These attitudes are a world away from God's attitudes, as described in these verses. Neediness arouses compassion in God-- and action.

We may think: "Of course God loves the poor; he loves everybody." But it's not so simple as that; God's character is presented as a model for our own. If God values the poor, we have to think about what that means for us.

God's commands concerning the poor
This section collects some specific commands from Old and New Testaments on serving the poor.
Deut. 15:7. If there is a poor man among you, one of your brothers, in any of the towns of the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand to your poor brother; but you shall freely open your hand to him, and generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks.
Deut. 26:12. When you have finished paying the complete tithe of your increase in the third year, the year of tithing, then you shall give it to the Levite, to the stranger, to the orphan and the widow, that they may eat in your towns, and be satisfied.

Lev. 19:19ff. Now when you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap to the very corners of your field, neither shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest. Nor shall you glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather the fallen fruit of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the needy and for the stranger. I am the LORD your God.

Prov. 31:8ff. [Commandment to kings.] Open your mouth for the dumb, for the rights of all the unfortunate. Open your mouth, judge righteously, and defend the rights of the afflicted and needy.

Is. 58:66ff. Is this not the fast which I choose, to loosen the bonds of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free, and break every yoke? Is it not to divide your bread with the hungry, and bring the homeless poor into the house; when you see the naked, to cover him, and not to hide yourself from your own flesh?

Jer. 22:3. Do justice and righteousness, and deliver the one who has been robbed from the power of his oppressor. Also do not mistreat or do violence to the stranger, the orphan, or the widow; and do not shed innocent blood in this place.

Luke 12:33. "Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys."

Luke 3:11. And [John the Baptist] would answer and say to them, "Let the man with two tunics share with him who has none, and let him who has food do likewise."

Mt. 5:42. Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you.

Commentary: The message here is really very simple: help the needy. It's not hard to understand; it's just hard to do.
And the message is continuous. It's in the Torah; it's in the Prophets and Psalms; it's in the Gospels; it's in the Epistles. How many churches emphasize serving the poor as much as the Bible itself does? Would the world look the way it does if all believers followed these commands?

Another thing to note about these verses is the lack of caveats-- the lack of excuses. None of them add "...once a year" or "...when you feel you can" or "...if they're moral" or "...unless they're black" or "...if they speak English". We have plenty of reasons (I'm sure you can think of a dozen) why we can't go out and feed the hungry, why we have to turn away the needy borrower-- and God help us, how many of us have sold so much as a lawnmower in order to have money to give away? But all those reasons belong to our sinful human nature, not to God. God just wants those needy people helped.

If you wanted to be a Biblical one-issue voter, you'd do well to make that one issue serving the poor.

Blessings on those who serve the poor
Serving poor may be The Right Thing To Do; but the Bible also associates it with material and spiritual reward. Here we'll look at the benefits promised to those who serve the poor; in the next section we'll examine the consequences of not doing so.
Prov. 22:9 He who is generous will be blessed, for he gives some of his food to the poor.
Jer. 22:16 "Did not your father eat and drink, and do justice and righteousness? Then it was well with him. He pled the cause of the afflicted and needy; then it was well. Is that not what it means to know Me?" declares the LORD.

Deut. 15:10. You shall give generously to [your poor brother], and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the LORD your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings.

Prov. 19:17. He who is gracious to a poor man lends to the LORD, and He will repay him for his good deed.

Jer. 7:5-7. "For, if you truly amend your ways and your deeds, if you truly practice justice between a man and his neighbor, if you do not oppress the alien, the orphan, and the widow, and do not shed innocent blood in this place, nor walk after other gods to your own ruin, then I will let you dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers forever and ever."

Is. 58:10. "And if you give yourself to the hungry, and satisfy the desire of the afflicted, then your light will rise in darkness, and your gloom will become like midday. And the LORD will continually guide you, and satisfy your desire in scorched places, and give strength to your bones; and you will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water whose waters do not fail."

Luke 14:12-14. "When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return, and repayment come to you. But when you give a reception, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, since they do not have the means to repay you; for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous."

Luke 12:44. "Sell your possessions and give alms; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Mt. 19:20ff. The young man said to Him, "All these commands I have kept; what am I still lacking?" Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

Commentary: Americans like money; the American dream is about being rich. No wonder we're susceptible to religious quacks who promise riches to those who believe in God.
We do find promises of reward in the Bible-- to those who serve the poor. God's making a very simple proposal here: "You help the poor, and I'll repay it."

Full disclosure: there's a little bait-and-switch going on. Jesus promises treasure in heaven. In the sociology of religion game, we call this spiritualization. In plain English, it means that Jesus is asking us to go way past our comfort level in giving things away. And in not getting them back.

Who are the poor, by the way? Among our rationalizations is the feeling that the actual poor aren't people we really have to pay attention to. They may be of different races, or not speak our language, or aren't moral enough for us; they may be illegal immigrants. (Imagine that, a class of human beings that are illegal. Imagine explaining that to God.)

God doesn't want to hear these excuses; he specifically commands us to help the stranger, the alien, the sojourner. Jesus' command on dinner parties couldn't be clearer: the people you need to help are not the people like you, the people you like, the people who can repay you. As for racial prejudice, note that the first person in the gospel of John to whom Jesus clearly confesses to being the Messiah is a Samaritan; Samaritans were despised by the orthodox Jews of the time. (And for that matter, she was a woman, and an adulterer.)

Can you give too much? We believe in moderation in all things. Unfortunately, we get this idea from the Greeks, not the Bible. Jesus asks for immoderate giving.

Consequences of not serving the poor
As there are blessings for those who serve the poor, there are consequences for those who oppress them... or who simply ignore them.
Ezek. 16:49ff. "Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food, and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy. Thus they were haughty and committed abominations before Me. Therefore I removed them when I saw it."
Is. 10:1-3. "Woe to those who enact evil statutes, and to those who continually record unjust decisions, so as to deprive the needy of justice, and rob the poor of My people of their rights... Now what will you do in the day of punishment, and in the devastation which will come from afar?"

Luke 1:52ff. [Mary's Magnificat.] "He has brought down rulers from their thrones, and has exalted those who were hungry. He has filled the hungry with good things; and sent away the rich empty-handed."

Ezek. 22:29,31. "The people of the land have practiced oppression and committed robbery, and they have wronged the poor and needy and have oppressed the sojourner without justice... Thus I have poured out My indignation on them; I have consumed them with the fire of My wrath; their way I have brought upon their heads," declares the Lord GOD.

Jer. 5:28f. "[The wicked] do not plead the cause, the cause of the orphan, that they may prosper; and they do not defend the rights of the poor. Shall I not punish these people?" declares the LORD. "On such a nation as this, shall I not avenge myself?"

James 5:1-6. Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries which are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments have become moth-eaten. ...Behold, the pay of the laborers who mowed your fields, and with you have withheld, cries out against you; and the outcry of the harvesters has reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. You have lived luxuriously on the earth and led a life of wanton pleasure; you have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter.

Luke 6:24. "But woe to you who are rich, for you are receiving your comfort in full."

Luke 16:19-25. "Now there was a certain rich man, and he habitually dressed in purple and fine linen, gaily living in splendor every day. And a certain poor man named Lazarus was laid at his gate, covered with sores, and longing to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table; besides, even the dogs would come and lick his sores.
Now it came about that the poor man died and he was carried away by the angels to Abraham's bosom; and the rich man also died and was buried. And in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes, and saw Abraham far away, and Lazarus in his bosom.
And he cried out and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue; for I am in agony in this flame.'
But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony...'"

Commentary: Many Evangelicals worry what might happen to our country if sexual immorality flourishes. Now, the sexual morality the Bible tells us to be worried about is our own, but that's another discussion. A more serious worry is what will happen to us, our churches, our nation, if we don't serve the poor.
Obviously, adding to the misery of the poor is bad-- exploiting workers, oppressing immigrants, robbing the needy. But it doesn't stop there. Merely ignoring the poor is a crime. Sodom wasn't destroyed because of sexual immorality; it was destroyed because it "had arrogance, abundant food, and careless ease"-- and isn't that a pretty good description of America?-- and it "did not help the poor and needy".

There isn't the least suggestion that the rich man being punished in hell was responsible for Lazarus's condition... except in the most general sense: he was responsible as a fellow human being, as a man who was aware of the one suffering at his door and did nothing to help.

"Pleading the cause" of the poor, being their advocate and defender, is simply something a righteous person does. Are you someone who, when others are silent, advocates for the poor in your company, your church, your nation, your political party?

Biblical attitudes for believers toward the poor
So far we've examined only the surface God's commands concerning the poor, what happens if we obey or if we don't. Here we consider the spirit in which we respond. Without some of these correctives, we might make many mistakes serving the poor.
Prov. 29:7. The righteous is concerned for the rights of the poor; the wicked does not understand such concern.
1 John 3:17. But whoever has the world's goods, and beholds his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the love of God abide in him?

Luke 6:33ff. "And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, in order to receive back the same."

2 Cor 9:7. Let each one do just as he has purposed in his heart; not grudgingly or under compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver.

Mt. 6:2-4. "When therefore you give alms, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be honored by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, that your alms may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will repay you."

Mt. 6:24. "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money."

1 Tim. 6:10. For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith, and pierced themselves with many a pang.

Gal. 2:9ff. Recognizing the grace that had been given to me, James and Cephas and John... gave to me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we might go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised. They only asked us to remember the poor-- the very thing I also was eager to do.

Lev. 19:15. "You shall do no injustice in judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor nor defer to the great, but you are to judge your neighbor fairly."

Acts 2:44. All those who had believed were together, and had all things in common; and they began to sell their property and possessions, and share them with all, as anyone might have need.

Acts 4:32-35. And the congregation of those who believed were of one heart and soul; and not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them. And with great power the apostles were giving witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and abundant grace was upon them all. For there was not a needy person among them, for all who were owners of land or houses would sell them and bring the proceeds of the sales and lay them at the apostles' feet; and they would be distributed to each, as any had need.

Eph. 4:28. Let him who steals steal no longer; but rather let him labor, performing with his own hands what is good, in order that he may have something to share with him who has need.

Commentary: Some unimpressive ways to give:
With a big frown on your face
Back to those who've given you things
Showing others that you're giving
How do you tell if you're worshipping Money? Well, how do you tell if you're worshipping anyone? What do you spend your time on; what do you worry and talk about the most; what do you make sacrifices for? I often wonder how people can read these verses on Sunday, and on Tuesday go vote for the Money Party. James and Peter and John don't exhort Paul to remember the tax cuts.
Acts 4 is a mini-description of the proverbial Christian Nation. There was not a needy person among them. Why isn't that said about us? We have a lot more resources than a mob of mostly poor first-century Palestinians.

Another excuse sometimes used to ignore passages like this is Dispensationalism-- roughly, the idea that since we have Scripture, we can ignore large parts of Scripture. It doesn't make much sense when you state it in plain English, does it? There are some good reasons that we need not follow the Jewish Law; but the obligation to help the needy has not been repealed. It's found throughout the New Testament, with a good deal more emphasis than many subjects that Christians prefer to focus on.

With the prohibition on stealing, we may feel that we're on more familiar ground. But note the actual advice; it's not "Build so many jails that you rival the worst dictatorships for the percentage of your population in prison." Simply let the thieves stop stealing and do honest work.

When you think "thieves", by the way, do you picture a poor person? The Bible doesn't assume that the poor are especially prone to sin; on the contrary. Rich thieves as well should put aside their thievery: accountants swindling stockholders, corporations cheating taxpayers, CEOs making millions while their companies fail, presidents spending money they don't have to benefit their wealthiest contributors.

God's identification with the poor
Like a good king, the Lord is concerned with his poor subjects. In the passages below, we see that His heart goes deeper still: he identifies with the poor; he puts himself in their place.
2 Cor. 8:9. For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sake He became poor, that you through His poverty might become rich.
Prov. 19:17. He who is gracious to a poor man lends to the LORD, and He will repay him for his good deed.

Prov. 14:31. He who oppresses the poor reproaches his Maker, but he who is gracious to the needy honors Him.

Mt. 25:31-46. "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. And all the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on His left.
Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.'
Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You drink? And when did we see You a stranger, and invite you in, or naked, and clothe You? And when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?'
And the King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.'
Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.'
Then they themselves will also answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?'
Then He will answer them, saying, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

Commentary: God isn't a conservative; he's a revolutionary. He not only takes the side of the poor; he puts himself in their place. In the very alarming parable of the sheep and the goats he speaks of salvation as depending on how we treat the poorest and the most afflicted.
According to prosperity theology (and according to the best Pharisaical opinion) Jesus should have come as a lord, a tycoon, a cult leader. Some of his followers today act as, presumably, they felt Jesus should have acted, building multi-million-dollar cathedrals. But Jesus came as a poor man.

There's all sorts of meaning in that, but at the very least we can say that Jesus takes the issue of poverty personally. A church or a nation that ignores its poor or places stumbling blocks in their way, whose supreme good is Money, is very far from the spirit of God.

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Based on a 1989 compilation by myself, Andrés Tapia, and Arnie Fishman.

Every problem big or small has it reasons. Before we judge anyone ( I am not justifying anything and I would never justify killing any innocent soul) we have to look at the root of the problem, we should as ourselves the question of why! Why is this happening? How did it start? Where it started? all of these questions, we have to anaylze it and be rational about it. The problems in the middleast we our country along with the brits implanted a viruse in the heart of the middle east, just like when you get a viral infection and your body rejects it, it is a continous battle between the body and the viruse until the body or the viruse win over the battle. These people were injected because they were not welcomed in the UK by King Edward they were put on a ship and deoprted and they gave them a land which does not belong to them, a land which has its own people, christians and muslims and peaceful jews use to live there until the zionists got infested that country. That is the root of this whole problem. Now continue on with the body and the viruse scenario, You have a viruse in your body, the body (the muslims and christians are fighting for their land) is fighting this viruse, the viruse is getting more viral boost from outsiders (for their own agenda) US/UK and other countries for over half of a century now, now this viruse has grown and it is trying to infest this body ( the whole body) but it needs help from within the body, outside help does not give the full potentional for infestation. So; it turns to seek help from within that body (the goverments of the arabic nations which they are bought by the west to continue keeping their seats, most if not all the presidents and kings over seas have been ruling for decades now!! lol democracy how in the heck will you have democracy when the people in power are appointed by the west and supported by the west against the citizen's will?!! if you speak you will be killed) now the viruse has allies from with in the body, the body is going to go crazy. How do you think it will react?! The outsiders come in and amputate part of that body (occupying countries to achieve their agenda to keep this viruse alife and make it stronger with the help of the bought goverments of those arabic nations) the body becomes weaker yet it want to continue to fight this viruse and the scenario keeps on going. Please understand the propblem and whats going on. We have occupied two countries and we have military presence in many arab nations (that is occupation and also the opression they receieve from their own goverments?!! people thei are fed up with this) One of the countries we have brought back to the stone age when it was the capital of civilization in the whole world, a city where people use to come from all over the world to be taugh science, art, architech, music, medicine, etc... we have killed (yes we have killed, how becuase what is happening there would of never happened if we did not invade them) over hundresds of thousands of them, How in the heck are they going to react, we humiltated them in abu ghraib we bombed them. One might say well; their leader use to kill them or such, well fist of all their leader is from within and also they turned against him and they tried to assassinate him many times before ( we cannot bring that as a justification for what we are doing there) the story goes on and on. I can keep writting all day and night. We just need to open our minds and hearts and understand what we are doing and ongressman Ron Paul for his courageous reaction and comments regarding what is happening. Please keep the coice of truth going Congressman, we will stand supporting the truth and peace. Thank you

Terra Pax
Semper Vagina*
This computer I use belonged to a friend, a brilliant Navy officer who wrote a virulently anti semetic book with the worst marketing timing in publishing history. It came out the month before 9/11. He wasn't religious at all, I knew him, drank wine and got stoned with him and saw the new phone lines installed in our rooming house when he was released from jail for threatening congresswoman Price and he had to wear a ankle bracelet. The biggest mistake the Government made was having him checked out by a Jewish shrink. The last thing a clinical jew-phobe conspiracy nut needed. He unexpectedly went on a fantasy martyrdom mission to kill someone and only killed himself.
I still Grieve for my Navy friend and was deeply troubled by the similarity's in the Ft Hood massacre. We did not see it coming.
There's no doubt my friend had gone totally enemy sympathetic would you like to buy his last book from me? calling himself Osama Bin Invisible. He was obsessed with his Lebanese ancestry as I am with my Irish Catholic Republican rebel roots. I love Jews and Israel and he understood my Israelite flag was bought just to pis off Palestinians. He had no use for them either for all the harm they have done Lebanon. A lot of sick psychotic stuff I have deleted from his computer sitting under this Israeli flag, while making a lot of new friends in Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan using it to counter the propaganda of jihad heads and anti Semites. Those people over there are fed up with the religious nuts and their psychotic prejudice and I never saw it coming that by countering the enemys bullcrap on the web I would make so many friends in those countrys. Like the Irish of my heart they are fed up with the madness of religious and racist violence and its twisted self important justifications.
Take it from a lifelong IRA supporter, The IRA laid down the gun and brought honor to our cause by doing it. Only by loving the protestants more than we use to hate them can we bring honor to our religion, nation and manly selves. God put this computer in my room under Israels flag the first day of Hanuka and the web service dude didnt get here to hook me up until the last day. I'm Irish catholic. I had no idea my father had any Jewish ancestry until last week and he probably never knew at all. I'm only about as much a Jew as the part they cut off when I was a baby but the moral is; we are all cousins under god and called to love one another. Its Gods just punishment that those who hate Jews and Israel will find that they cannot be blessed without them. Ask Jesus Jewish Mother. No viruses in this computer now. After a while I got bored with turning this once anti semetic propaganda machine to return fire upon the enemy. There's too many hot Japanese girls to love and chat to waste my time with Iranian religious nuts. Life is too short to waste hating anyone especially us lost tribes of jews. And me a Irish Catholic Jew I only want to do one thing; drink, love God, and breed. I dont want no more war booty from dead friends. I got enough already. I didn't ask for it but we all know who delivered.
That's the pattern of history of Israel that is being replayed at this dawn of the third millinium and Israels resurrection from the dead. One day is a thousand years with god. Get on the love train or get run over so some bum can wear your coat like me.

*Vagina is a Roman soldiers Latin for sheath where the sword goes after its work is finished. Semper Pax a soldiers way of saying
"the Peace that lasts forever"

Matt: you call the truth vile, Well; I guess sitting in the north american Island and not leaving it and ingesting what the media feeds you and you digest it, it becomes part of you, part of your thinking process, you will reject the truth since you people think what the media here feeds them is the truth well in doubt it is the flasehood. Visting such countries and seeing the people there and reading multinational and international articles and papers and books I came to realize that we are occupiers and we brought occupiers which have been in that region for over half of a century now, we aid in killing them by wasting our tax money and sending it to kill innocent people, the rightfull people of that land, when we police the world, how do you think people would react (NO religion on earth calls for killing innocent people) when Mr. Bush came out and said I had a vision from God allowing me to kill these people (what kind of religion is he following???!!) read the history (the right history) ask the people who lived there for thousands of years not unlawful immigrants. We occupied north america, they (we as we call ourselves americans) sluaghtered the american indians before, we feed off occupation and the wealth of other countries. It is not hatred, it is the truth. I don't hold any ounce of hatred in my blood except for the person who opresses others, then I have every right to dislike that person if he does not wake up and look around and see what he/she is doing knowing that they are wrong or maybe they don't know like Mr. Bush said he saw a vision to kill the iraqi people?!!!

Members of the US Armed Forces and Military Establishment are finally waking up left and right, some right here at this blog that the source behind our wars, our civil wars & conflicts is the fraudulent treason system of fake monopoly money that has rotted out the inside of our republic.

That is of course, the Federal Reserve Express system is a completely illegal counterfeiting operating that is turning out downright fascist dictatorial decrees on law enforcement and on the American public.

It is especially vital, that members of the US military be wide awake to this threat and join our side to be rid of it.

However, despite this illegitimate Federal Reserve Monopoly being the source of most of the evils in the world...The Military commanders are still proclaiming in public that we should bomb Iran!

They say not only should we be rid of the Federal Reserve, but lets "bomb Iran back to the stone age" when there is no reason to be wasting our time policing the world anymore.

Military officials need to pay careful attention as to whom might be suggesting we destroy Iran.

In the end we need only look at our history to see these misadventures overseas never work out as planned, they are only designed to enrich who Thomas Jefferson warned us about....the Military Industrial Complex....which together with the Bankers, is banking on everybody believing a certain conclusion.

Think about it: The MEDIA has repeated to us, and made the military believe, that Iran has made physical threats of terror against the United States.

Only when you research these reports that are showcased out there, you discover that no such alleged threat exists - such a threat was not made!!!

So something is awfully wrong here, and something smells to high heaven.....
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=49833

If America was under direct threat by Iran, would there not be clear cut evidence and terrorism by the nation of Iran that would confirm an outside legitimate threat?

But but....this intelligence does not EXIST!!!! Something is therefore very wrong here, Iran is not a threat to the USA or else we would have reason to blow it up.

Iran is a threat to Israel's hegemony, however. Iran is a threat to the central bankers and their New World Order, therefore this statement by the media was not a mistake. It was a direct lie!

It was a bold faced lie by ISRAEL and her treasonous banker buddies, including Zionist Harrimon, Bush Senior and Merkluv of Germany!!! They came out of a place known for manufactured evidence according to the London Times.

These lies were deliberate, they were not mistaken accidents! These lies were virulently MALICIOUS, and orchestrated through the Military Complex of Israel because that is who benefits from turning the USA and Iran into enemies.

After all we have no bone to pick with Iran unless they decide to attack us after of which all bets are off, but "OUR COUNTRY" is under no Iranian threat....it is under severely treasonous Banker/Israeli blackmail!
http://worldreports.org

Which brings me to my final point: There is only one way to end this facade and get the evil out of Washington D.C:

1...................Complete a full-fledged Audit of the Federal Reserve and look at the books that Interpol is already looking at. Sign the audit into Law by making the Senate bend to the people's will.
2...................Begin dismantling the enemy within which a great man George Washington warned us about, that is Fraudulent Finance Enterprise Incorporated the Global Federal Reserve by re-instating the Glass-Steagall act. The Glass-Steagall act once finally forced through our Imperial Senate; will reign in the monstrosity of counterfeit money. It will separate the extremely fascist banks from the public, by barring them from trading with commercial lenders. It will put corrupt politicians behind bars & clean the books of fraud.
3...................Pass the "Freedom of Currency Act" by getting EVERYBODY nationwide to start sponsoring Ron Paul's bill. The Freedom of Currency act will allow states to get the debt off the books at an accelerated rate, by trading what they always loved and earned to begin with. Gold and silver. By repealing legal tender law, people will naturally trade more and more with REAL money and the Federal Reserve's monopoly will slowly break.
4...................If the global Federal Reserve is not yet bankrupt, abolish the entire enterprise and send the bankers to their execution including Bush/Harrimon/Netanyahu and the whole gaggle. Abolish and phase out the remains of the Federal Reserve using HR 833 passed with a new congress, and new financial "New Deal" to keep the bankers out.
5...................Get Obama freed up so he can do his job, he is great as long as he's not blackmailed by these criminal fiends. The "monopoly" money we have that has appeared since 1800 is fake fiat money worth less than 5 cents. Its paying off corrupt judges & ruining the world through the "Patriot Acts". The only real terrorism everyone needs to be aware of is FINANCIAL TERRORISM. That's done by Herr Kissinger and his Military Industrial Complex trading worthless fiat money everywhere to corrupt people, and turn good men into martyrs and criminals!
6...................Have Obama freed up to cut off any/all excess military aid to Israel through a sanction, and when Zionist Inc. realizes their main source of food i.e: the Zionist Federal Reserve is horizontal.....they will GLADLY accept the Palestinian people and finally give up the hideous dreams of New World Order domination. Read Revelations 8:12 sometime, these bankers are fascist vipers of the worst kind imaginable!

Now perhaps of course, not all central bankers are so conniving as the terrorists mentioned above. However, Fiat Money is treason by its very nature. This is a totally evil system of credit that brings virtually everyone into endless debt. It makes good men turn bad, due to the immensely seductive nature of never having to work. Of being able to make endless monopoly money out of thin air, with no responsibility, no remorse, and no concern for who it harms. The only concern you have is how much fake money you can make to buy whatever you want, including world empire. So goes with all fiat money. And when Fiat money goes away, hard earned silver/gold can help the impoverished people to be wealthy again. The poor would become the rich and working class, creating jobs. The maniacal bankers left over, would be poor for the first time. They would have to see through the eyes of someone with little or nothing who could not make up endless financial monopoly money. The "little eaters" as that witch barbara bush called them. Yes, they would have to live as a common man....which more than any other punishment, would reform all their wicked ways.

United States/UN has gotten hooked on a destructive, ultimately fatal heroine. That heroine must be surgically removed further. That heroine is Federal Reserve Inc. which is an illegal monopoly operating under color of law to perpetrate a nasty world government. It is all a lie. The federal reserve note you hold, is, worth less than a few pieces of mined copper. The sooner it goes the better for all.

Thank you Ron Paul for opening my eyes..It's a simple fact that the further we stray from the constitution the more trouble we get into..As we pledge allegance to our flag,I believe the President and the congress should have to read and understand the constitution before conducting any of the nations bussiness..

Also the guy that plotted the foiled terrorists attack! Is being held in a prison in Milan after recovering from the burns he induced himself! which is not to far where I ilve! Instead of the major prison in Jackson prison in Michigan!
Glad that everyone that was in that flight made it out okay!

I have seen the individual that claim he was a member Al Qaeda proved by the FBI that he posed no security threat! From what I have heard from my local news! & I live near the Detroit Area! We have to worry about whats going on in Yemen! Because I have heard that there are Al Qaeda terrorists there! Even though the Government there is cooperating with our Government to get rid of these individuals! The news that there was a suspected terrorists starltled me! We are no safer now than when we were before 9/11!
Not only we have terrorists from other countries! We have domestic terrorists here at home besides radical Islamists! In Iran they don't have the desire to attack us! Unless we attaked them!

We should have amputated the Iranian cancer 30 years ago. I'm a G.I. brat/veteran and all for turning Iran into a sea of biblical glass. However our Service people and their survivors have to be paid in the Bi-cameral legal tender of Article One section 8 and 10 of US Constitution that they swear to defend. Our enemy Al Qaida pays their fighters in precious stones while ours get illegal monopoly debt paper. Kudos to Congressman Paul for being one of the few that take the Constitutions money serious as General Andrew Jackson. The only President to end Federal debt and nobodys pacifist.
Great bravery is being demonstrated by the young people of Iran. If they survive neo-Hitler and his neo-brownshirts they have a bright future as our friends. If not, well I love todays Japan a lot. So be it.
Hon.Paul thank you for your continued brave service. I blame LBJ and the Dallas Fed for JFKs blood. It's my Wexford Irish thing.

Bottomline: Have you also tried saying 'BRING MILITARY HOME AND LAY THEM OFF, THEY ARE FRIVOLOUS'

Ahhhh, aside from the 'frivolous' use of caps, i guess it is true that you and Ron Paul wouldn't say that... Wouldn't want the truth to interfere or piss off such a prominent pool of money that he suckles on...

I found this on posted on a website focusing on illegal immigration. The government instead of actually being normal and deporting illegal immigrants for entering our country, is building ICE sponsored and managed prisons all over American soil. The situation is truly hideous as there is no reason to do that unless its to imprison people. We should be deporting them!

This is the post:
"Of course it's true, everyone needs to recognize that.

In 1600 they toppled the Central Bank for similar reasons. The government has been totally corrupted since 1913 using the outer half of the government that is totally insane, the shadow government run by fascist crusader Zionists of every stripe and nationality.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm

The Federal Reserve is the greatest fraud and delusion ever perpetrated on America. It is a FASCIST institution run by mad gruff dogs, who pay off the intentionally corrupt using fake, inflated, counterfeit money.

We have what amounts to the largest counterfeit operation ever operating in these United States that once was home of the free. These prisons demonstrate the point.

It's called the FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM and its neither federal, nor is it reserves. It is a fascist corporation. All the money is printed on paper that is worth less than a parchment in 1782. And this is called your economy lads and lasses!

THIS is the face of America as it exists now.......By all my strength, I will be here to see the corruption of the farce that is the Reserve crumble and with it may America be reborn. It will take more losses on both sides, for these immature and in my opinion downright evil LAW ENFORCERS of the Reserve extortion operation to give up.....

A-men. And with it, may all the tyrants fall."

I for one can not see a moment where these scalliwags under the illusion of democracy, can continue to perpetrate this massive fraud on the American people.

Federal Reserve has more than worn out its welcome, it must be ended before it causes world war or declares war on Iran along with any other country.

It needs to be dismantled and I agree that all the fake money should be deleted, we can survive, our country always has.

"Look at the situation from the historical parallel of the French Revolution, which began in 1782 with the creation of the British Foreign Office. It took seven years to organize that British-run revolution to destroy France, and then pave the way for a Seven Years War known as the Napoleonic Wars.

Wars fomented by Britain (just a short list)

America in 1776,
1812 (3 years),
1860 (4 years, civil war)
Spanish-American (Teddie Roosevelt and the rise of American Imperialism)
Germany WWI
WWII (Devastating War Reparations and British support of Hitler)
Korea (Truman - British puppet)
Vietnam (British Assassination of JFK leads to new "7-year War" in Vietnam)

America has become "thoroughly British" with our CIA propping up dictators, like the Shah (Iran), Saddam Hussein (Iraq), Noreiga (Panama) and probably elsewhere.

Kuwait had a Hitler-like invasion by Saddam and America was forced to clean up the mess that we started.

Tony Blair provides the "false" data to the Bush NeoCons on WMD provoking the invasion of Iraq. Blair was brought under scrutiny and Dr. David Kelly murdered. (read http://www.larouchepac.com/node/10746 )

Obama, a British Puppet, was elected with the monetary support of drug runner, George Soros. Even though Obama campaigned to bring the troops home, he LIED! It was never the British intention to end the war-mongering. Obama follows orders from the British. Afghanistan continues to spend our lives and gold on a war of folly. And yes, the NeoCons are looking for any reason they can to strike Iran.

The Good News...Obama has failed to delivery on "healthcare" and "environmentalism" forcing economic austerity and de-industrialization of nations; the British have "cut him loose". He will be a one-term President.

NeoCons won't go against North Korea, because Kim Jong-il would probably fight back...and, of course, there's many more easier targets.

These are all planned, disruptive wars that can only be resisted if WE, the AMERICAN PEOPLE, rise up and change the direction of our country.

With a 4-Power alliance between Russia, China, and India, and an America that has returned to constitutional values, the British blight on the world could be stamped out forever.

Ron Paul is right on target...and the American people need to continue to Protest...TEA PARTY, MASS STRIKE. We don't listen to the congressional buffoons anymore...WE TALK and they listen!

But while Ron Paul states clearly the problem, the Larouche plan spells out the specifics of change. For a marvelous historical review coupled with a plan of action, this is worth reading.

I believe that Ron Paul and Lyndon Larouche are both constitutionalists that are our Jefferson and Hamilton of the 21st century: opposite sides of the SAME coin; together they make formidable force for change in America.

I totally agree with you on the evil British Empire. I think this is the reason why the British Pound is still an accepted currency, world control still goes back to the Bank of England and the city of London. And that shows you the extent of the problem. When the USA joined their archenemy Great Britain in 1917 fighting against Germany, then you know that most Americans even back then had lost all morality, self-respect and common sense. Which isn't a surprise, considering that the same people earlier elected Woodrow Wilson and welcomed the creation of the Federal Reserve 1913. Of course the situation has even more deteriorated since then, with the vast majority of Americans seeing Great Britain as their good mother country, and their best friend. Most "Americans" are spitting in the eyes of the True Americans, who actually fought the British, many of them who got wounded and killed by the British.

Thank you Dr. Paul. You are telling the truth and I just finished reading your wonderful book "End the Fed." What's happening is truly scary and it can cause one to feel hopeless and despondent, but you are giving us the best example - KEEP SPREADING THE WORD - tell others what is really happening with this horrid push to get a one world government. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. See the DVD entitled - "The Corporation." It's not too late to stop these corrupt and greedy thugs. They may be powerful but WE HAVE THE NUMBERS and we will never give up without a fight. Give me liberty or give me death. If anyone wants to know more about the truth of what's going on and the degree of deception and monopoly control over mainstream media - just go to youtube and look up "one world government" or "new world order" or "the Obama deception" or "proof that Bush knew about 9/11" or "dangers of vaccines." WAKE UP and SEE the truth of how we are being systematically misled. THINK for yourself - should a Nobel Peace Prize go to a man who is EXPANDING war? It is RIGGED because the corrupt military industrial complex has enough money to buy out almost any influential institution. DO NOT be fooled. Time magazine had Bernanke as "person of the year" ... what a JOKE that is. He should be "despised man of the year" for causing so much suffering and destruction. Thank you Dr. Paul and keep up the good work. We are ALL behind you. The people are strong and every day more of us are waking up to reality. We will resist and we will tell others to resist. Some authority is simply NOT worth obeying. Civil disobedient will occur in HUGE numbers. Truth will win. Be brave and do what is right, not what is easy. WE ARE ONE.

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