Atheists Divided Over Xmas - Atheist Nexus2016-12-10T04:08:43Zhttp://atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/atheists-divided-over-xmas?commentId=2182797%3AComment%3A2134440&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noBeing an "atheist leader" is…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-01-03:2182797:Comment:21352832013-01-03T19:17:29.315ZHumble Piehttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/HumblePie
<p>Being an "atheist leader" is sort of like being a cat leader. If you happen to be two steps in front of it and going the same direction, it may look like you are leading a cat, but I would be suspicious of that claim.</p>
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<p>In the same vein, being divided seems to implies you once presented a unified front.</p>
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<p>That said, the article is interesting. Thanks for sharing it. It is funny that that AA sign went up, but "Living a fulfilling life without God" was deemed too…</p>
<p>Being an "atheist leader" is sort of like being a cat leader. If you happen to be two steps in front of it and going the same direction, it may look like you are leading a cat, but I would be suspicious of that claim.</p>
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<p>In the same vein, being divided seems to implies you once presented a unified front.</p>
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<p>That said, the article is interesting. Thanks for sharing it. It is funny that that AA sign went up, but "Living a fulfilling life without God" was deemed too offensive by the billboard company. Ha!</p> Though this is not a Christia…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-01-03:2182797:Comment:21344022013-01-03T04:32:18.721ZJames Kzhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/JamesKz
<p>Though this is not a Christian State, it is a primarily Christian nation, and CNN is going to play to its principle audience. Noting my petition on the White House petition site is miserably floundering, despite being available to thousands of atheists here and on Atheist Forums to view, it is no wonder.</p>
<p>The overwhelming majority of atheists just sit back and don't want to get involved in such dirty work as politics. While there are real consequences to being "out" in an area where…</p>
<p>Though this is not a Christian State, it is a primarily Christian nation, and CNN is going to play to its principle audience. Noting my petition on the White House petition site is miserably floundering, despite being available to thousands of atheists here and on Atheist Forums to view, it is no wonder.</p>
<p>The overwhelming majority of atheists just sit back and don't want to get involved in such dirty work as politics. While there are real consequences to being "out" in an area where the majority thinks you should go hide in a hole, I would point out that women didn't get the right to vote by being silent, blacks didn't get discriminatory Jim Crow laws overturned by being silent, and gays are not being silent about equal rights under the law for inheritance and marriage now.</p>
<p>Until atheists are willing to stand up and say "this far and no farther," with the inevitable and inherent dangers to individuals that entails, we will continue to be marginalised even by more reasonable outlets like CNN (forget about Fox).</p>
<p>We will still be called evil in the public square, our children will still be prohibited from playing with other people's children, and we will still be subjected to all manners of religious indoctrination while being told to shut our mouths. Of minority groups in the USA, we are the largest. No one will fight for our rights or treat us fairly in the media if we do not speak up.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/acknowledge-and-work-civil-rights-atheists-agnostics-and-nones-american-civil-society/Sj1yNk8N?utm_source=wh.gov&amp;utm_medium=shorturl&amp;utm_campaign=shorturl">My petition</a> has sixty-nine signatures. Meh. It dies in eight days. As long ours we do not stand up for ourselves, we get what we deserve. As Benjamin Franklin noted: <b>They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.</b></p>
<p>An atheist from a foxhole, who no longer hides. - James.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="https://navy.togetherweserved.com/usn/servlet/tws.webapp.WebApps?cmd=ShadowBoxProfile&amp;type=Person&amp;ID=426720">My on-line shadowbox of my Naval service, decorations, and postings</a></p> It could be a case of playing…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-01-03:2182797:Comment:21345452013-01-03T02:50:08.246ZNapoleon Bonapartehttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/napoleonbonaparte
<p>It could be a case of playing the man and not the ball. As they say, play the ball and not the man.</p>
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<p>It could be a case of playing the man and not the ball. As they say, play the ball and not the man.</p>
<p><img style="padding-bottom: 8px; padding-right: 8px; padding-top: 8px;" id="il_fi" src="http://www.btvision.bt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Four-Nations-Rugby.jpg" width="450" height="337"/></p> I think it's great when any m…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-01-03:2182797:Comment:21344402013-01-03T02:39:42.638ZTodd Skaggshttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/ToddSkaggs
I think it's great when any major news outlet takes notice of us non-believers at all. Is the article a little slanted, perhaps. Using shame against the superstitious is a valid tool. Certainly the church used similar aggresive methods to convert us when they enjoyed near total control over society. Apparently the stick is more effective than the carrot. I would guess it was a slow news day and Dan Merica was trying to make his topic as controversial as possible.
I think it's great when any major news outlet takes notice of us non-believers at all. Is the article a little slanted, perhaps. Using shame against the superstitious is a valid tool. Certainly the church used similar aggresive methods to convert us when they enjoyed near total control over society. Apparently the stick is more effective than the carrot. I would guess it was a slow news day and Dan Merica was trying to make his topic as controversial as possible. "Keep the Merry - dump the my…tag:atheistnexus.org,2013-01-02:2182797:Comment:21341542013-01-02T13:54:40.129ZMichael Pennhttp://atheistnexus.org/profile/DennisMichaelPennington
<p>"Keep the Merry - dump the myth" "We celibrate the holiday season" etc. The word "holidays" means "holy days" and there are no days that are holy! To be so gets back into religion. In the United States especially people have to realize that there is a push by merchants to sell you anything that they possibly can. Maybe the day of celibration should be called "Merchants Day." Adults go with all this now because of the gifts they got as children. The adult "children" continue to pass this on…</p>
<p>"Keep the Merry - dump the myth" "We celibrate the holiday season" etc. The word "holidays" means "holy days" and there are no days that are holy! To be so gets back into religion. In the United States especially people have to realize that there is a push by merchants to sell you anything that they possibly can. Maybe the day of celibration should be called "Merchants Day." Adults go with all this now because of the gifts they got as children. The adult "children" continue to pass this on to their own real children, and the cycle is never broken. Wrap this all up in the mask of "religion" and the adults, merchants, and children all seem to be happy. No one seems to understand what it's all really about. There's nothing "religious" here, but if you want to give gifts who am I to stop you?</p>