I don't think it's delusional as much as uncritical. I think it's incumbent among every student to question their sources. however, I don't think that this is encouraged, especially in programs where they are being fed information from a fire hose. I was hoping that this student would get involved in an actual debate but I think she's gone. I'd like to explore where she got these ideas. Is this really the standard being taught in school now? If so, we're in a world of hurt.

also that she noted she was going to spam didn't help. I totally get that many of you take pride in your understanding and learning. It's a pain to have to fend off these ridiculous claims. It's similar to people saying to me "Why don't insurance companies give me back my premiums if I had no claims? They are such crooks" Explaining the purpose of insurance much less Loss Ratios, can get old.

I think what got the ire up in some of the others was the old thing about how high protein trashes the kidneys, which was probably started by the food processing company lobbyists, and how that person (beautyqueen) thought that as a med student, she was the end all-be all.Tim

Yep, exactly. If she had just said "I heard somewhere that high protein is bad for the kidneys." I'd have just said that I didn't think that was true, and gone on from there. But when she came back citing her status as a med student as if that made her the ultimate authority, and then going through that patronizing little summary of protein metabolism and renal function, it pushed my hot button for sure.

There is a difference in the way I handle these things too. Depending on what they, I will have a completely different response. If they just say, "I heard X", I will just say that's actually not true. However if someone challenges me and makes various fallacious attempts at an argument, I will shred it. This is only logical since they said various things, and you address each one. You also do so in like tone. Normally one would sweeten their post with polite niceties. However there is no reason to do that when someone speaks to you in such a way. Then they get the raw argument, without any polite, minced wording.

It's a question of "Well, that doesn't actually have any bearing on this" vs "That statement is irrelevant". The 2nd one isn't a personal attack, or rude per say, but the first one would be the polite version. I make no effort to be polite to people saying ridiculous arrogant things.

Since NightFaLL asked me to leave...and I won't be welcome here I won't write anymore. There are more than enough people in this forum, which I see are specialists in excersises and food diets. And NightFaLL, I'll tell you again - the study you're reffering to is 1 gram protein per pound. Do you think that a kid will know how much protein he/she consumes?

...the study you're reffering to is 1 gram protein per pound. Do you think that a kid will know how much protein he/she consumes?

I would have though that most persons consuming > 1g protein per lb of bodyweight would be well aware of the amount of protein he or she consumes? God knows I have enough trouble actively exceeding 1.2g/lb a day, and that's with planning.

Unless, of course, your referring to children, in which case I can't really comment.

Since NightFaLL asked me to leave...and I won't be welcome here I won't write anymore. There are more than enough people in this forum, which I see are specialists in excersises and food diets. And NightFaLL, I'll tell you again - the study you're reffering to is 1 gram protein per pound. Do you think that a kid will know how much protein he/she consumes?

Bye.

Nightfall doesn't have the authority to tell you to leave--that would have to be TimD or Ironman.

I'd be happy with you sticking around and treating the people on the forum with respect, asking honest questions, and offering thoughtful arguments for your point of view.

Wow. I missed this one. I think her referencing 6 years of medical school is quite funny. Especially since most doctors (our favorite Doc excluded of course) are absolutely clueless about exercise science and nutrition. Besides, now remember I aint nuthin but a dumb ass farmer, I thought medical school was three years plus one year of residency.

And since she says she intended to spam, what in the hell were the intentions? Why in hell would a doctor feel any reason to spam? Everything about this looks funny, walks funny and quacks funny.

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