Monday, February 2, 2009

"G0y's" (Spelled with a ZER0) are guys who find men physically & emotionally attractive, but are offended by and disassociate themselves with the stigmas of the gay community. They reject the notions of femininity, as well as anal-sex.

23 comments:

This is confusing. Is it pronounced like "goy" (as in the Jewish term for a non-jew, synonymous with 'gentile')? What if you meet a g0y goy? Or a goy g0y? A goy g0y guy? Or maybe you pronounce it with a silence replacing the 0? or gzeroy? Having said that, a word is definitely needed for such a widespread phenomenon...are there also l0sbians? b0-sexuals?

Just the OPPOSITE Laurie,G0y men are VERY secure in who they are. By use of the term g0y, they are clearly stating that a MAN does not need to take on a female persona sexually or socially. A male does not need to take on the role of a female (penetrated) or ask another man to be female (penetrated) in order to enjoy a full, beautiful, masculine, phallic orgasmic experience.And to Word Geek; Tom-A-toe Toe-mah-to

Unfortunately this discussion is beginning to sound a bit homophobic and sexist. Why is hyper-masculinity required to define a group of so-called "very secure" men??? Makes little sense to me and it makes me uncomfortable that there continues to be a group of people (G0y's" who, once again, see gay and feminine as undesirable.

People who identify as "g0y" in my opinion are not secure in their sexuality by any means. If one is secure in their masculinity and sexuality they would not feel the need to create a whole other community and also degrade people who are effeminate. There are many GAY MEN who are masculine and do not engage in anal sex. They are still gay, they just have a masculine gender identity and a preference for other sexual activities. G0ys are also gay, they are just in denial.

G0ys sound really contradictory to me...it's fine to find men attractive and if you don't see yourself as effeminate that's all well and good, but like QU said why create a different community for that? I guess I don't get it, I don't know if I actually want to though.

Ya, I know isn't it silly to use a word to define the parameters of a group so that people know what they are abbout just by the name. I know that I ignore this silly stuff when I have vegetarians to dinner and serve them steak. Why is it a bad thing for men not to want to be effeminate. Or are you saying that leather guys who engage in anal sex are effeminate? G0ys don't hate effeminate or anal sex people, they just want everyone to know where they stand on the issue. But gee we don't want people to have there own oppinions, now do we?

I'm done! This discussion as usual has degraded again into who's secure with his or her sexuality and what the 0 means in the word g0y. It's pretty sad when a guy gets dumped on because he likes the guy part of guy, no not his dick, his masculinity.Straight women are usually physically attracted to men who exhibit masculine qualities, and yet when men are attracted to these same qualities, they are insecure because they say so and want others to know that that's what they are attracted to in a man.Maybe it's the gAy community that is insecure with its lifestyle, its image of anal, effeminate behavior, and so forth. The gAy community knows that there is strength in numbers and unity, so let's not allow a group of individuals to separate themselves in the minds of the general public and by doing so increase their insecurities and polarity between heterosexuals and homosexuals..G0y men are not gAy, homosexual maybe, bisexual maybe, but not gAy, the A meaning anal!!!!!!That's all!

Suppose there are hypermasculine men, emasculated men, and masculine men. If the ordinary gAy community is divided amongst the first two and the g0y composed of the third, then if all are content in their identity the only discernable reason for the dislike is the natural order of things. The two opposites of a middle dislike that middle more than they dislike each other, and in a different way.

I do not believe that there are two, three, or five genders, but a full spectrum. That is why I am proud to use the rainbow. I am quite effeminate, but hate anal sex. Not for lack of trying. I understand that some people love it and I would never think less of them. However I feel that it is ignorant for anyone to assume that I am insecure just because I will never have anal sex again.

Does the "a" in gay really stand for anal. I've never heard that before. If so I need to come out all over again. I've been telling people that I'm gay for the last twenty years. -Not like I need to tell them. Twenty seconds with me a you know I'm a Diva.

I don't like labels anyway. I am that I am. But I gotta say that if there were an accurate label for a girl like me I would use. It gets old trying to expain to some hotie I took home for the night that I just don't do that.

Hi Guys out there I'm Apollo the Second Coming and am bisexual with my boyfriend Aquarius - you will see us later next year as we take over the running of the Planet but in the meantime anal sex is good for men however fisting, piercing, tatoos and torture will be banned in the New Age of Aquarius where we are taking you - 4 parents not the single parent situation we have today - our Destiny is space exploration. Something to think about fellows..............

That's a term is denial. I don't feel that as a gay person you have to act female. And there is more to gay sex than anal. In fact, less than 50% of gay sex is anal. To me, they are straight-acting gays who have a category problem and need to diversify their view on what being gay means.

It is not denial to clearly state that you do not wish to have anal sex with a male. It is not denial or insecurity to state that you do not agree with the political and social views of the "Gay" community The Gay community seems to think that they can speak for all men who find other men attractive. They can not. Immorality is the "Norm" in the gay community and G0Y men just do not identify with that. The majority of gay men have sex with multiple partners, and the majority of gay men identify as either top or bottom. For someone to say that less than 50% of gay sex is anal is a farce. G0y is just a word to identify a group of people... some of you are focusing on it being a separate word... it is not just a word, it is a group of people who share common ideology, much the same as the "Gay" community has over time been identified by a term that identifies them. The Gay community needs to stop judging everyone who doesn't agree with their ideologies, which is what they ask of everyone else.

I think the G0y movement is an interesting middle space phenemenon; men attracted to men who were raised in a homophobic society, refusing to "be queered." The truth is bisexual play happens between men more often than is admitted to, often anonymously or in guy only zones. Bisexuality in women is more socially acceptable and therefor more obviously witnessed. Using the Kinsey scale as a justification makes a great deal of sense. That being said, point one: anal sex is enjoyed by many, straight and gay, does the anus need to be vilified again? Is it inherently more evil than a thigh or the back of the neck? Point two: nobody ever says, hey Betty you need to fem it up you're coming across less than than female. Sexism is the fuel that feeds homophobia, ie., masculine women (aka tom boys) are "one of the guys," feminine men are despised. Men fear disempowerment, but really this fear highlights the still prevalent disempowerment of women. Both men and women have male and female characteristics to differing degrees. ALL PEOPLE are deserving of love and respect, regardless of where they feel they stop on the gender sliding scale. Third point: g0ys talk about religious fundamentalism and being g0y noy gay addresses their need to be seen and accepted by their families and communities and allow their need for THEIR natural expression. Trading off anal sex for social inclusion isn't a bad trade when you know you prefer Paul to Paula in the bible belt, but it's really society that needs to change, not the symantics of gay and g0y. I can't help but feeling glad that guys are taking back their right to full sexual expression, (men's liberation movement? yes being a man can be like wearing a straight jacket - good pun) if g0ys protest too much of their masculinity, is that really so different from so many straight guys? However, I hope a caste system is avoided (Save The Sissies) because everyone is worthy of inclusion and respect. Some day we will all just be sexual. Some day.

If Goys are part of the Queer community, not the straight world, then they are "third gender that like men" not "Men who like men".

WE (G0ys) are most definitely NOT part of the "Queer Community". The g0y movement is comprised of homosexual, bisexual and heterosexual men. Many of those heterosexual men are married and are not looking for sex with men, but align with g0ys because of our philosophical focus dedicated to reconnecting men as a brotherhood based on Friendship First, Masculine Respect and Trust, Responsible Sexual and Health Practices and Strong Moral and Spiritual Foundations. Traits that I'd suspect not many Queer supporters of the gAy lifestyle are familiar with. G0ys seek to distance themselves from the gAy (queer) lifestyle.

To address a few other posts:We aren't attempting to mimic or align with the straight world either. Those that are 100% hetero aren't going to care about g0ys, so we aren't looking to them to 'protect and accept' us.

G0ys aren't promoting 'hyper-masculinity'. We believe hyper-masculinity to be just as 'campy' as 'drag' or affected 'effeminate' behavior. Be advised that there is a clear difference between 'effeminate' and 'feminine' (soft personalities). Feminine (soft) personalities are natural. Effeminate, campy displays are repugnant to g0ys.

Vince, you say less than 50% of gay sex is anal. I won't ask where you got your figures. It doesn't matter. If one Google's "gay sex", the results show that the perception is clear: gay sex = anal sex. The porn companies and guys posting on social sites reflect this attitude. referring to the former, someone is buying that anal barebacking trash and I doubt it's the hetero community. If gays don't want to be defined by 'anal' then their behaviors and support of certain aspects of our community is going to have to change - radically.

The gAy community is damaged...and that is why g0ys became a necessity. Men don't want to be ASSociated with what gAy has become at the hands of the drag lobbyists, the sodomy activists, the barebacking promoters, the HIV/AIDS threat minimalists, et al.

That being said, point one: anal sex is enjoyed by many, straight and gay, does the anus need to be vilified again? Is it inherently more evil than a thigh or the back of the neck?

The answer is yes. Anal sex is potentially 5000% more dangerous than other sex acts. This means, for example, it would take 50 instances of oral or vaginal sex to equal the risk factor of just ONE anal encounter. Condoms, according to the manufacturers, fail AT LEAST 5% of the time, consistently. Can you say Russian Roulette?

Does a thigh or the back of the neck have that kind of track record?

It was once written, in response to someone who said what is done in private, in the bedroom, affects nobody else:

"You'll understand in the future -but somebody's gonna DIE first...See, some of those "GAY" friends of your's that Phuck arse; --One of them is going to give HIV to Phuck somebody else -3 days from now. That person, will spread it to another person 44 days from now via the butt-phuck. 51 days after that, it will spread again -to a teenager at a "gay rave" ass-orgy --who, 79 days later will give it to your son (-recently educated about condom use in his high-school health class) via a so-called "safe" butt-phuck session in which the condom will break.After you put him into the ground 7 years, 3 months, & 2 days later: you'll finally 'get it'."

That being said, point one: anal sex is enjoyed by many, straight and gay, does the anus need to be vilified again? Is it inherently more evil than a thigh or the back of the neck?

The answer is yes. Anal sex is potentially 5000% more dangerous than other sex acts. This means, for example, it would take 50 instances of oral or vaginal sex to equal the risk factor of just ONE anal encounter. Condoms, according to the manufacturers, fail AT LEAST 5% of the time, consistently. Can you say Russian Roulette?

Does a thigh or the back of the neck have that kind of track record?

It was once written, in response to someone who said what is done in private, in the bedroom, affects nobody else:

"You'll understand in the future -but somebody's gonna DIE first...See, some of those "GAY" friends of your's that Phuck arse; --One of them is going to give HIV to Phuck somebody else -3 days from now. That person, will spread it to another person 44 days from now via the butt-phuck. 51 days after that, it will spread again -to a teenager at a "gay rave" ass-orgy --who, 79 days later will give it to your son (-recently educated about condom use in his high-school health class) via a so-called "safe" butt-phuck session in which the condom will break.After you put him into the ground 7 years, 3 months, & 2 days later: you'll finally 'get it'."

"g0ys talk about religious fundamentalism and being g0y noy gay addresses their need to be seen and accepted by their families and communities and allow their need for THEIR natural expression."

No. Our only discussion about fundamentalism is to point out the hypocrisy and sloppy theology that permeates todays religious landscape and today's churches.

We're not making our points and distinguishing ourselves from gAys based on behavior so that we will be accepted by the Gawd-Fearing Baptists, so to speak. The Fundamentalists and Gays alike hate us equally. The fundamentalists because we point out their sloppy interpretation of the Bible when it comes to same-gender-affection vs. prohibited sexual acts and the gays hate us because they can't stand to see guy-who-love-guys refuse to be sucked into their downward spiral of decadence and lack of philosophical and moral foundations.

Does my characterization apply to all gays? Of course not, but gays who are 'moral' will often defend the ones that are 'immoral' under the guise that 'we all need to stick together, no matter what'. You guys go right ahead and posture...us g0ys are heading for the lifeboats.