So what's everyones thoughts on this? I'm yet to see any persons or teams named specifically so it's all a bit vague atm based around conspiracy theories involving organised crime. Here are some tidbits.

A police investigation into sports doping and match-fixing is expected to draw blood in the coming days and weeks. Major sporting codes were thrown into crisis yesterday when an Australian Crime Commission (ACC) investigation found widespread drug use in Australian professional sport, with some athletes being given substances not yet approved for human use.

We've been saying for years that drugs are everywhere in footy, rugby, and cricket, but everyones just turned a blind eye to it, and instead only cared about drugs in cycling. AFL would rave on about how they do random drug tests when it worked out that on average a player might get tested once every ten years or something stupidly rare, when elite cyclists would have sometimes 30 tests a year, and more wasn't uncommon (ie, five times a week).

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"We are not going to declare who they are but this is a way of putting the frighteners into them, so they are aware authorities are aware of them." Justice Minister Jason Clare said the commission had also given the names of individuals to NSW and Victorian police.

That is smearing Clubs and Players that are innocent.
Name them or STFU.

I know right?! Why is this even a topic for conversation? Is this just because of Lance Armstrong or something?

It's f*****g cheating, they're f*****g cheats, kick them out of the game for some period and make it clear that sort of behaviour is not tolerated, and then everyone shut up about it so we can watch some more sport

It's f*****g cheating, they're f*****g cheats, kick them out of the game for some period and make it clear that sort of behaviour is not tolerated, and then everyone shut up about it so we can watch some more sport

who are you talking about?

clubs? individuals? if a club gives its players illegal supplements, who does the time?

clubs? individuals? if a club gives its players illegal supplements, who does the time?

If an individual does it of their own accord, then it's the individual

If the club does it... what, like through a coach? How completely utterly stupid would the coach and players have to be? Why would you hesitate to remove the entire team from the competition?

If the drugs are actually illegal, in the sense that possessing them means criminal charges, then everyone associated with them is f***ed anyway. If they're just "illegal" in the sense that the rules of the sport says they can't be used, then it's just a boring issue within the scope of that sport and the players just need to be banned for an appropriate amount of time (up to and including forever if they want to take it really seriously, though I think that would probably be excessive).

I don't really get why it's such a big deal. There's either rules or there's not, and people are either following them or they're not. If they're not following them they're breaking the rules and then the rules should say what happens to them. What am I missing?

I am sick of this whole thing. Am i the only one who thinks these incidents aren't the most concerning thing in the world right thus shouldn't be the main story on every single newspaper and tv news bulletins?

The other day i was watching 7 news "BREAKING NEWS, SPORTS DOCTOR COMMENTS" *proceeds with a 10 minutes piece* "oh and in other news, North Korea conducts a nuclear test and the pope has resigned, BUT BACK TO OUR MAIN STORY OMG"

Australia's just wreathing around the idea that a large portion of Australian Identity could be a lie. Of course it will be on the front page for a while. There will also always be a bit in everyones mind that anyone winning at sport, 'Are they are drug cheat or do they come close?'

I don't really get why it's such a big deal. There's either rules or there's not, and people are either following them or they're not. If they're not following them they're breaking the rules and then the rules should say what happens to them. What am I missing?

what about substances that weren't illegal at the time, but are now!??! (jack3d is a classic example of this) and the fact they they are naming clubs, not individuals says that its probably entire clubs providing whatever to the players to use.