RKade:The thing to remember here, kids, is that pissing against the wind just makes you piss-covered. What you should be doing is pissing against the wind into a receptacle of some kind. Abstinence is goddamn stupid what with those hormones we've got so, as a right-to-center libertarian, I approve this idea wholeheartedly.

My wife is a conservative and she also approves. If kids are gonna be stupid no matter what, we may as well do something useful for them rather then talking about not being stupid.

Popcorn Johnny:How so? Parents have the right to know what their kids are doing.

Not if the kids are 18 or older. HIPAA specifically forbids that. Even if the kids are still under their parent's insurance, the parents do not have a legal right to find out what treatment their child receives.

Dr. Goldshnoz:You just watch, this is going to cause crime, destroy the innocence of our children, bring the wraith of god upon us, destroy american society, and cause the further advance the women's war on men.

You just watch.

I thought all that was due to either single mother homes or homosexuality.

SilentStrider:Popcorn Johnny: How so? Parents have the right to know what their kids are doing.

Not if the kids are 18 or older. HIPAA specifically forbids that. Even if the kids are still under their parent's insurance, the parents do not have a legal right to find out what treatment their child receives.

Not defending the guy, but his argument concerned 15 year-olds. Last time I checked, 15 was less than 18.

Girls and women who use this and who get abortions can go onto have children. Kids they maybe wouldn't have had if they were forced to have this one. Kids they in all likelihood will be better equipped to raise, since studies show women tend to make good judgements as to whether or not they can afford a child when they have an abortion. But no, lost kids.

TheShavingofOccam123:Kimothy: Good. Can't wait to see the fundies crying in their Cheerios over this one.

Just wait for all those high moral cashiers who refuse to check out any item they find morally objectionable.

Actually that's a quick way to law suite for either gender or age discrimination. The only options they have is to not carry it (dunno what came from that one case), price gouge or to simply stock so little it is always sold out

The one thing to remember if its OTC: ha ha no insurance discount for you, pay the full price sucker

TheOnion:Popcorn Johnny: So it's not legal for a 15 year old to consent to sex, but it's just fine if she buys a morning after pill without parental permission? Not really understanding the logic behind that decision.

Should we also ban the purchase of contraception?

Also, it's legal for a 15 year old to have sex with another 15 year old. And they do it all the time without worrying much about the law (and would continue to do so even if it were illegal). Since this is going to happen anyway, we would at least like to limit the number of children produced from the activity.

You are assuming that a 15 yr old has the brains to make that decision. I highly doubt it. There is a reason why they can't drive, vote or drink legally at that age.

Ah yes, the argument from potential. So the idea is that more people on the planet is inherently good, regardless of Earth's ability to support them? By that logic every fertile woman who refuses to have sex with me is a baby killer.

Qellaqan:Girls and women who use this and who get abortions can go onto have children. Kids they maybe wouldn't have had if they were forced to have this one. Kids they in all likelihood will be better equipped to raise,

See, while this will legitimately help some people, I know from seeing it firsthand at pharmacies in, shall we say, the less reputable neighborhoods of Providence, that there are people that will go in almost every other week to buy said drugs. You'd think the girl would just tell the guys to use a condom or it's an extra $50.

\then again, same store had an issue with some crackhead coming in and literally shiatting all over the bathroom\\it's easily the store I miss the least

Kimothy:Good. Can't wait to see the fundies crying in their Cheerios over this one.

It's not quite a total victory, unfortunately, as the 15-or-older with ID limit is still in place. It'll be a proper victory when that age limit and ID requirement is lifted, and you can buy this like you'd buy aspirin.

Given our population demands, anything that avoids unwanted pregnancy should be as free as friggin' water at this point. But, again, there are knuckle-draggers that want to ensure that women who have sex out of wedlock are treated as less than human, and so they won't let something like this go without a fight.

Anthracite:TheOnion: Popcorn Johnny: So it's not legal for a 15 year old to consent to sex, but it's just fine if she buys a morning after pill without parental permission? Not really understanding the logic behind that decision.

Should we also ban the purchase of contraception?

Also, it's legal for a 15 year old to have sex with another 15 year old. And they do it all the time without worrying much about the law (and would continue to do so even if it were illegal). Since this is going to happen anyway, we would at least like to limit the number of children produced from the activity.

You are assuming that a 15 yr old has the brains to make that decision. I highly doubt it. There is a reason why they can't drive, vote or drink legally at that age.

How much brain do you need to decide whether you should bear a child at 15?

Anthracite:TheOnion: Popcorn Johnny: So it's not legal for a 15 year old to consent to sex, but it's just fine if she buys a morning after pill without parental permission? Not really understanding the logic behind that decision.

Should we also ban the purchase of contraception?

Also, it's legal for a 15 year old to have sex with another 15 year old. And they do it all the time without worrying much about the law (and would continue to do so even if it were illegal). Since this is going to happen anyway, we would at least like to limit the number of children produced from the activity.

You are assuming that a 15 yr old has the brains to make that decision. I highly doubt it. There is a reason why they can't drive, vote or drink legally at that age.

No he isn't. He's (correctly) recognizing the fact that nothing is going to stop 15 year olds from farking. This will reduce the number of pregnancies which will result. There is no evidence or reason to believe that it will increase underage sex.