Everything is pretty cool with this map except the colors. I think with a bit of tweaking it could be a quick fix. They are just too bright and vivid. tone em down a little, and then see if it garners more interest. good luck pep.

has there ever been a reversed revamp cause of disaster? Im sure eventually i can get used to this new one but getting used to and liking a new version totally different. Anyways we will see how much longer this will take.

Um, what? "another map killed"? We can debate on whether or not the Germany revamp works, but I can't for the life of me think of what you even mean there by implying that that the revamp process has "killed" other maps.

And before getting snooty, I think you might want to bear in mind that it's only due to the thousands upon thousands of hours of time put into mapmaking by members of the foundry that this site has such a bounty of maps in the first place.

I appreciate the fact that you don't like the Germany revamp, but you do yourself a disservice by getting pissy at an entire community of volunteers.

Um, what? "another map killed"? We can debate on whether or not the Germany revamp works, but I can't for the life of me think of what you even mean there by implying that that the revamp process has "killed" other maps.

And before getting snooty, I think you might want to bear in mind that it's only due to the thousands upon thousands of hours of time put into mapmaking by members of the foundry that this site has such a bounty of maps in the first place.

I appreciate the fact that you don't like the Germany revamp, but you do yourself a disservice by getting pissy at an entire community of volunteers.

Um, what? "another map killed"? We can debate on whether or not the Germany revamp works, but I can't for the life of me think of what you even mean there by implying that that the revamp process has "killed" other maps.

And before getting snooty, I think you might want to bear in mind that it's only due to the thousands upon thousands of hours of time put into mapmaking by members of the foundry that this site has such a bounty of maps in the first place.

I appreciate the fact that you don't like the Germany revamp, but you do yourself a disservice by getting pissy at an entire community of volunteers.

Well put! Other than a few individuals who operate the "business side" of CC, this site is predominantly a collection of volunteers who contribute many hours in mapmaking, running tournaments and moderating.To bitch about aspects which are being offered completely gratis - and often thanklessly - is like being invited to dinner, being served lasagna and then complaining that you would have preferred prime rib.

Um, what? "another map killed"? We can debate on whether or not the Germany revamp works, but I can't for the life of me think of what you even mean there by implying that that the revamp process has "killed" other maps.

And before getting snooty, I think you might want to bear in mind that it's only due to the thousands upon thousands of hours of time put into mapmaking by members of the foundry that this site has such a bounty of maps in the first place.

I appreciate the fact that you don't like the Germany revamp, but you do yourself a disservice by getting pissy at an entire community of volunteers.

More in jest.... and no other revamps to my knowledge have gone as bad as this one. Sure others met resistance, but nothing like this. Germany was a map many people enjoyed with lots of appeal to it. Sure the graphics may not have been super high tech, but it got the job done with some nice game play. At any given time you would find high ranked private std seq games on it, team games, quads, triples, doubles. Those are all things of the past. The only triples on it is the one me and ladd are playing. You can place blame on anybody you like, but once this came out pep has since vanished to my knowledge. I am sure Benn has something in the works to fix this but until then we are left with a map with lots of issues and nearly unplayable as it sits. (from a graphics point of view) Not trying to be an asshole, because I know these take lots of time to make and revamp but this one just did not work out. The CC community in large voted, just by not playing the map. Take it for what it is.

MrBenn wrote:Revamp CompetitionWhile the Foundry is having some down-time, it seems like a good time to be running a Revamp Competition!

The subject of the map in question has been a bit of "Heiße Kartoffel". Since the current Germany Revamp went live, legitimate concerns about visibility and legibility of some areas have been raised. Despite a lot of backlash from the CC community, the foundry gave its full support to the revamp on the assumption that amendments would be forthcoming. While there has been some discussion about the required adjustments, pepperonibread has gone into hiding, without submitting any further updates. Ordinarily, a crack commando unit of cartographers would be scrambled to make necessary changes, but without access to the source files there are too many amendments to adjust the map behind the scenes with ease.

With this in mind, the Foundry Team is proposing an open Graphics-only revamp of the existing Germany Map, in order to get it released from Beta as soon as possible.