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Also responding to people making excuses. I agree with him in every way. I hope National outlets keep ripping Indy citizens for not supporting Pacers. Deserve all the heat they are getting. Nothing else is working.

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Read some of the responses. They don't know anything about the team. It's not a fans are aware of them and don't go to games thing, it's Indiana citizens don't know a thing about these Pacers.

I really don't know how you fix that. Keep winning I suppose.

It wouldn't hurt if half of the games were still on channel 4. I know that is impossible now, but it would have helped because I believe a lot more of these folks would see for themselves that it ain't 2007 anymore.

Otherwise, I'm not sure. Maybe tackle the 'controversy' head on with media pieces on the local news with headlines like "Are the Pacers still thugs?" that then goes into the story explaining how that is anything but the case. Get Channel 13, 6, 8, FOX to do it. If they're game, of course. I would imagine they would be.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Frank isn't using the empty seats as a motivational tool. The whole "us against the world" mentality is oft-discussed, but really couldn't be more appropriate for this Pacers teams. Our own city doesn't even show up for games.

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Re: Colin Cowherd Pacers Twitter Rant

Cowhered, like many here, doesn't understand that it's hard to undo SIX YEARS of ill will in just two seasons. I don't think people appreciate just how badly the Pacers ruined their image in the community from 2004-2010. You don't recover from that sort of devastation in just two seasons when you don't have a household name on the team. We are making process though, slowly but surely. We just have to keep winning.

People want to point the finger at the fans and not the organization which delivered an abysmal product over a six year period and completely tarnished their image. They have made amazing moves over the past few seasons, mostly because of Larry Legend, but the shadow of the ugly years still looms large.

Re: Colin Cowherd Pacers Twitter Rant

Cowhered, like many here, doesn't understand that it's hard to undo SIX YEARS of ill will in just two seasons. I don't think people appreciate just how badly the Pacers ruined their image in the community from 2004-2010. You don't recover from that sort of devastation in just two seasons when you don't have a household name on the team. We are making process though, slowly but surely. We just have to keep winning.

People want to point the finger at the fans and not the organization which delivered an abysmal product over a six year period and completely tarnished their image. They have made amazing moves over the past few seasons, mostly because of Larry Legend, but the shadow of the ugly years still looms large.

That's all well and good if we want to blame PS&E for creating this mess.

But that doesn't help with the new problem: Those fame folks who stopped caring don't even seem to know what the hell is going on anymore! It would be perfectly fair IMO to excuse their absence if things hadn't changed, but they HAVE DRASTICALLY CHANGED! They're living on 6 year old information now, and it's well past time they be educated as to what the hell is ACTUALLY HAPPENING at the Fieldhouse now.

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I caught a little of JMV today and I think Cowhered also said people to go to Pacers games because Indianapolis is racist?

I use to think that people didn't go to Pacers games for a number of reasons including

- Lack of money
- No star player
- They weren't winning
- The brawl
- Off the court issues
- Style of play

In the end I think what it comes down to is Indiana just isn't an NBA state. The typical NBA fan is probably a bigger fan of the star player than they are the team. Since the Pacers don't have a star you won't see many Pacer fans fill the arena. People here enjoy high school and college more. At one time sure people would come out to see Pacer games but that era is over and this one is much different. This is more of an NBA problem than a Pacers problem. The national media didn't care before when nobody came to watch the Pacers at home but all of a sudden they are.

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JOB was an awful coach for the Pacers BUT he did manage to cut ties with all of the thug imaginery that the Pacers had in the ensuing years of the brawl.

That coach (I still refuse to say his name) didn't do that. Larry Bird did. The coach did nothing more than take a band of misfit players who just happened to be pretty good citizens (thanks to Larry making sure of that) and teach them that spacing the floor was the most important method of winning basketball games.

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That coach (I still refuse to say his name) didn't do that. Larry Bird did. The coach did nothing more than take a band of misfit players who just happened to be pretty good citizens (thanks to Larry making sure of that) and teach them that spacing the floor was the most important method of winning basketball games.

I certainly agree with that. It was indeed Larry's doing but I have to include JOB as well since he was the coach.

My main point was that the JOB era sucked a lot basketball-wise but PR-wise there weren't any issues.

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Re: Colin Cowherd Pacers Twitter Rant

I'm sure Pacers Play-offs will be the hottest & toughest ticket in town in a couple months... I'm not worried about casuals and the regular season. Heck, MSA sat 2,000 fewer and wasn't at capacity during regular season play when it seemed like the Pacers owned this town!

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When people call the current group of Pacers thugs, then it could come across as a racist comment.
Indiana the state is still very racist it will stay that way until the last generations of the KKK era die out.

That coach (I still refuse to say his name) didn't do that. Larry Bird did. The coach did nothing more than take a band of misfit players who just happened to be pretty good citizens (thanks to Larry making sure of that) and teach them that spacing the floor was the most important method of winning basketball games.

I know it is much more fun to remember things so they make a good story, but, like it or not, one thing JOB did was to change the discipline in the locker room. If you are going to fawn all over Larry for doing the job, you have to accept HIS OWN WORD that JOB changing the culture was a big part of it.

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