Child please, both are great technicians, but they aren't influences. They extended the zietgiest, but they didn't revolutionize it. No noticeable segment of the population wakes up wanting to dress, create, eat, live, play like them, not on the level of the Beatles and Elvis. Madonna and Lady Gaga are frankly ahead of them on those terms, though they're still behind the big two.

TBH, though. I'm struggling with gauging Madonna's influence teetering between a mean old white man undervaluing her, and a guilt-laden old white man overvaluing her, all along unable to place myself in the shoes of those of the fairer sex she influenced.

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