"None is as blind as the one who refuses to see the truth in front of him."
Take the blinders off, Mr. C.
J :]
From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:02:45 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] principals of Developers of the Palouse LLC
J:] says:
"... Rick Beebe played the sympathy card when he
"disclosed" that he had been "tricked into selling" to a group he supposedly did
not realize were the true buyers."
I don't know if that is true or not. Perhaps you could
provide a cite. I don't know Mr. Bebee well but he doesn't strike me as a fool.
Perhaps you are wrong about his purported claim or perhaps he thought he was
selling the property to Mr. Hoffman, a man who does buy property in downtown
Moscow that isn't connected with your favorite bump in the night. Either way I'm
still sure that there is no requirement that you or the community at large be
kept apprised of the ins and outs of the transaction. As to where the money
comes from this to is not a matter for public scrutiny either. Did you look into
the particulars regarding the latest LDS construction project on War Bonnet
or the Baptists effort on Fairview and report breathlessly on their financial
arrangements? Who sold the property to who and where the money to pay for it
came from? I thought not.
"Its only a matter of a year and I can GUARANTEE you that NSA will be
requesting the City Council to allow them to expand to over 200 students, the
current amount allowed."
I don't know what this has to do with the topic at hand
but, I would have to say that I don't see why they should wait a year. They have
complied with the city councils requirements for parking and should be allowed
to immediately expand to their maximum allowed enrolment.
What all of this looks like to me is various combinations
of people with land, money, expertise and desire combining to try and make
a living and make Moscow a better place to live while they're at it. I
don't see where guilt or innocence enters into the picture.
g
----- Original Message -----
From:
J
Ford
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 5:30
AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] principals of
Developers of the Palouse LLC
Ah, yes...generally the scenario you set up is fine and
dandy. But, Rick Beebe played the sympathy card when he "disclosed" that
he had been "tricked into selling" to a group he supposedly did not realize
were the true buyers. AND, if it truly was a sale that was on the
up-and-up, why did it go through one buyer before it went to the "real" buyer,
that being CC or Dougie? Why the subterfuges? And if this "group
with money to spend" truly has money to spend, why the scramble for the
members to raise more and more by selling and down sizing? Most buyers
would have the sense to have money in pocket before a sale goes through so
they don't get caught with their pants around the ankles and nothing to show
for it. Dougie has been on a campaign all over his "kingdom" raising
funds and getting people to commit to both the buying of the property across
from Gritman for his "cathedral" as well as getting new kirker blood into
Moscow and into his new development on N Polk. And now he wants to
change the PUD for THAT property in order to allow for more borders to get
into those new houses.
Its only a matter of a year and I can GUARANTEE
you that NSA will be requesting the City Council to allow them to expand to
over 200 students, the current amount allowed.
And just to clear the
air, since you seem to have all the answers - why is it that Rick and his
bunch are now fronting the new development in the County? Last year, the
petition was filed by Mike Hoffman. Why the switch?
Hmmm.......seems like a lot of back-room-fanagaling going on between those two
groups.
But, like you said - one group has money and another has
property....all this looks innocent to you?
J :]
From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com;
vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:18:46 -0700
Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] principals of Developers of the Palouse LLC
So what, exactly is there to be unhappy about? A group
with money to spend and a group with property to sell got together
and transacted a mutually agreeable business deal. I don't think that
it's currently necessary to poll the community before finalizing this
kind of arrangement, at least not yet. With out a change in city
governance this November it's hard telling what we might end up being
subjected to. It's not difficult imagining Nancy, queen of the naught and
her like minded henchmen being only too happy to review private transactions
and withhold their stamp of approval from anything that doesn't meet their
anti growth, anti business, left wing agenda.
g
-----
Original Message -----
From:
J
Ford
To:
vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent:
Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:12 AM
Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] principals of Developers of the Palouse LLC
Which absolutely proves what I was told earlier this week -
Rick Beebe DID know who was buying his property across from Gritman.
He figured if he played the poor fool that was jerked off by Dougie and
his bunch, people would look the other way on his other projects. In
other words, he's playing the "sympathy card". Too bad, Rick -
people so know
what you did and are NOT happy.
Wonder if the IRS is aware
that you're back to your old tricks?
J :]
From: dfrench at moscow.com
To: whayman at roadrummer.com;
vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:34:11
-0700
Subject: [Vision2020] principals of Developers of the Palouse
LLC
The answer is:
Larry Germer, Richard Beebe, Jeff Eisinger, Karl
Tyler, according to records filed with the Idaho Secretary of State
(here's the link: http://www.accessidaho.org/public/sos/corp/search.html?ScriptForm.startstep=viewentity&ScriptForm.startScriptForm.start.ScriptStepView.viewentityFILEvalue=W46038 )
Message: 2
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:52:04 -0700
From:
"Warren Hayman" <whayman at roadrunner.com>
Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Amended Agenda for the Latah County
ZoningCommission
Special and Regular Meetings September 19, 2007
To: "Bruce and Jean
Livingston" <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com>,
<vision2020 at moscow.com>,
"Aimee Shipman" <ashipman at latah.id.us>
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Does anyone know who
Developers of the Palouse, LLC is?
Warren
Hayman
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