They've been doing it for years though. TGI is huge and im sure they dont charge as much as Early Graves or the others.

I honestly don't see TGI being huge to pay for anyway. I mean they need bigger bands on the bill to help sell it out because trying to back a fest with a lot of little bands even in a genre like hardcore isn't going to help bank even.

I mean lets use a example :

The second day of the rumble had the headliner as Crown Of Thornz. From what I heard the venue was over half empty. Venue capacity at half empty would be around 300 people or so. There was like 12 bands on the bill. So your not making too much money from that. A bigger headliner will draw more money and your not technically "selling out" if your booking a band that has toured with a shit ton of hardcore bands.

Seriously? They've had bigger bands play that I'm sure cost more (Sick of it All, Comeback Kid, etc).

They mentioned that they would give an explanation soon, but I'm sure there's other factors to consider than how much one band is being payed.

Veteran bands(SOIA and CBK) =/= huge. TGI is a popular band right now and def more than the 2 you mentioned, they sold out all their headliner shows in their recent run down here in Cali and I'm sure plenty of other venues. If anything TGI would cost more but definitely would draw. These 2 dudes prob just dont have the resources this year.

Veteran bands(SOIA and CBK) =/= huge. TGI is a popular band right now and def more than the 2 you mentioned, they sold out all their headliner shows in their recent run down here in Cali and I'm sure plenty of other venues. If anything TGI would cost more but definitely would draw. These 2 dudes prob just dont have the resources this year.

I'm pretty positive its coming down to not having enough money to do the fest. They pretty much said they didn't have it all to be able to risk it for the fest.