Method Achieves World First Mythic Argus

Method has defeated Argus l'Annihilateur on Mythic Difficulty after almost a week of progress on him. The kill happened at the start of the second week of Mythic Antorus. Killing Argus l'Annihilateur on Mythic difficulty rewards the achievement Argus l’Annihilateur : mode mythique and the title ! Congratulations to them!\r\rChat Spam\r\r\rSource: Reddit \r\rKillshot\r\r\r\rTweets\r\r\r\r\rWipe Count\rReddit user okru1 captured Method's wipe count for the tier during RogerBrown stream and shared it on Reddit, showing how harder Argus was compared to the previous bosses:\r\r\r\rNerd Screams\r<iframe src="https:\/\/player.twitch.tv\/?autoplay=false&video=v209259591" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true" scrolling="no" height="378" width="620"><\/iframe><a href="https:\/\/www.twitch.tv\/videos\/209259591?tt_content=text_link&tt_medium=vod_embed" style="padding:2px 0px 4px; display:block; width:345px; font-weight:normal; font-size:10px; text-decoration:underline;">Watch METHOD VS ARGUS WORLD FIRST MYTHIC NERD SCREAMS from method on www.twitch.tv<\/a>\r\rLegendary Trinkets\rMethod had 0 Vision d’Aman’Thul for Mythic Argus.\r\r<iframe src="https:\/\/clips.twitch.tv\/embed?clip=PluckyShinyLarkKlappa&autoplay=false&tt_medium=clips_embed" width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="true"><\/iframe>\r\rMythic Exclusive Mount\r\rMethod raider Justwait received the Mythic-only mount drop: Ur'zul entravé! Congratulations!\r\r\r\rMount Preview\r\r\rKill Details\r\rRaider.io shows the following composition for the Argus kill:\r\r\rWhile the gear and specializations used on the kill might have been changed to hide some specific strategy, if correct, we can draw some conclusions from it:\r\rThe kill curiously is showing three tanks and three healers for their raid composition, which could be an armory error or indicative of a short enrage timer. \rAs far as DPS goes, the composition was overall balanced between ranged and melee DPS, composed of 6 melee and 8 ranged DPS. \rClass-wise, the highlight go to Voleur and Mage, with three members from each class. \rTanks, in particular, were using strong trinkets for soaking single hits: Reliquaire des damnés, Haine renouvelée d'Archimonde, and Garde des Titans fumant, likely to prevent as many deaths as possible from Faux trancheuse d’âme, preserving Don de la Lieuse-de-Vie charges.\rAll players had at least 75 traits in their weapons, which means they had the full power of the Netherlight Crucible unlocked, but only a few had more advanced weapons. \rThe raid only had three Pantheon trinkets, so they weren't receiving any benefits from the blessings of the Pantheon, maybe out of sheer luck, or lack of, from drops.\r\r\rBlue Posts\r\rCongrats to Method! It's been interesting watching everyone compete for the World First, and It's awesome to see Method pull through. We will be watching for the World Second and World Third, so good luck to everyone else going for the kill!\r\rBoss got nerfed cause they suck, nothing new to see here.\rThe boss hasn't been touched besides some minor bug fixes early yesterday, actually, but good try!\r\rLet's keep this thread positive and constructive. If you don't have anything to add to a constructive conversation here, best keep it to yourself.\r\r\rEfficiency has nothing todo with it, its like saying the todays Warriors are a better basketball team than the 90's Bulls, its still a video game where you move and press 1,2,3,4, this isnt nuclear enginnering, not taking away the current players skills, but one cannot say people werent skilled ages ago if they still spent nearly 15+ hours a day playing a game\rI can guarantee you with all the money in the known universe that people are better raiders today than from Vanilla.\r100%\r\rProfessional raiding as well as raid design have evolved a ton since those days, they are hardly comparable at this point imo.\r\r\r\r\r...\rRagnaros took 120 days, this is easy in comparison\rPeople also didn\u2019t play 24\/h a day 7 days. Week on rotating shifts trying everything in their power to get it.\rOr have PTR research, or datamining, or have multiple characters for any scenario of mechanical differences. The list goes on. Higher end raiders while a very fraction of a percent are far more skilled in how they approach fights than they were during Vanilla and even Burning Crusade encounters. \r\rIf you dropped a fight like Argus during something like Vanilla with no previous history of encounters or the tools that higher end raiders have now, I think you'd see him live for quite a long time.\r\r\r\rOkay, we care why?\rMore people should care. The world first races are fun to follow for a number of reasons. If you're (general you, I mean) one of those people who is salty about raiding in general, then by all means stay away; but for someone who knows even the slightest bit about how raiding works, following along with the MMO-Champion mythic progression thread for each raid is by turns fascinating and hilarious. \rFascinating because I will never see mythic progression, just like I won't ever play professional football, but I can read the commentary of the various hardcore raiders that contribute to that thread just like I can watch pro ball. Hilarious because sometimes there's more bickering and drama in these extreme high-end raiding guilds than you see in any RP guild.\rIt's just that, entertainment. However, it's not some peoples cup of tea and that's fine. I personally get super excited about it and love to talk about the race around the office. We even watch some of players that stream it, the rare few that is. It's also a sense of pride, being a player that used to participate in this, seeing it continue through all of the new raid tiers we add. \r\rEven though I'm not a hardcore raider in any sense, I always notice that people on the forums get triggered badly whenever impressive PVE or PVP accomplishments are mentioned in anyway.\rSome people get mad seeing things they haven't accomplished like this. We'd have a few more raiders if they weren't so busy posting angrily on the forums about other player's accomplishments. \u00af\\_(\u30c4)_\/\u00af\r\r\rIf you want to learn more about Mythic Argus l'Annihilateur, you can check our First Look at its Mythic-only phase. This post will be updated with screenshots throughout the day.

Commentaire de cefer1234

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Commentaire de Maelchav

on 2017-12-13T10:32:21-06:00

I wonder, did they keep the lock from last week and just kill Argus, or re-clear to get more gear?

Commentaire de Azyra

on 2017-12-13T10:32:35-06:00

Mathematically impossible.\r\rIt could have been, they cleared mythic another time since it's reset so they got 10x4 more 960+ items + bonus coins AKA it could've been mathematically impossible last week :-)

Commentaire de Galbrei

on 2017-12-13T10:32:39-06:00

Once again, Method does the mathematically impossible! Grats guys! Looking forward to the kill video!

Commentaire de Lukkazz

Commentaire de navysilan

on 2017-12-13T10:35:14-06:00

GZ GZ GZ! you tested everything before, now to just killed it again....

Commentaire de knokout1

on 2017-12-13T10:38:30-06:00

Lots of people making the mathematically impossible jokes. First of all, he was obviously just having fun with the meme. Second of all, he was probably right! After getting a ton more gear from the reset they killed it pretty quickly. Meaning the only thing that was holding them back before was that little bit of extra gear they got from splits and re-running the first 10 bosses on mythic.

Commentaire de amezarak

on 2017-12-13T10:39:05-06:00

The race is over. Gratz!

Commentaire de africanleopard

on 2017-12-13T10:42:15-06:00

Awesome - love these guys. I was rooting for them. Wonder how many wipes they had in total. I see that they had to wait for the Official first kill. I guess Blizzard audits these kills.\r\rAlso interesting that there are very few US guilds in the running \ud83d\ude10

Commentaire de Seriniel

on 2017-12-13T10:48:38-06:00

can you please refrain from whining just because you'll never see him even on normal difficulty ? Mythic Argus was kept secret and only tested internally, the fight is extremely hard. it took them almost a week on a single fight, while playing almost perfectly and min maxing everything. beside, you seem to overlook entirely the fact that ptr testing is not done only by high end raiding guild, and doesnt benefit them only. without ptr testing, Blizzard doesnt have the manpower to test content extensively, not in the current time frame between raids. \ryou cant be at the same time spitting at high guild doing ptr and asking for content to come out every few months, just like you shouldnt be salty just because they did somethign you'll never do.

Commentaire de AlakeiThancan

on 2017-12-13T10:50:56-06:00

Lots of people making the mathematically impossible jokes. First of all, he was obviously just having fun with the meme. Second of all, he was probably right! After getting a ton more gear from the reset they killed it pretty quickly. Meaning the only thing that was holding them back before was that little bit of extra gear they got from splits and re-running the first 10 bosses on mythic.

Meh. I disagree. If he was so "obviously" just having fun with the meme, most people who have understood it this way. Also, sure, they have better gear, then why say it's mathematically impossible if it's just a matter of gearing? He "obviously" meant that it was just as impossible as Kil'jaeden and needed to be nerfed.

And to be honest, whether he was right or not, sarcastic or not, doesn't change my opinion about him that much. He keeps complaining everytime something doesn't go his way, and it's enerving as hell. Those guilds want the raids on the PTR so they can train on them. Blizzard listens. The commmunity wants release to mean something, so Blizzard keeps the mythic phase of the last boss a secret. And yet everytime a raid is released, Sco is the first to jump the gun and whine.

Which pisses me off because A, it's a game ; B, those phases are meant not to be tested, so you've got to expect unbalanced numbers and buggy stuff to happen.

can you please refrain from whining just because you'll never see him even on normal difficulty ?

I read back all the previous comments, I don't see anyone who's salty. If you're refering to me, I'll probably not see Argus in normal difficulty before a few months, sure, I MIGHT get the heroic achievement in 5 to six months, and I'll definitely never even see the mythic bosses before next Xpac. How does that play into my comment? I don't pretend it's easy or that Method doesn't deserve it. My comment was purely against Sco and his attitude which I find extremely un-sport like

Commentaire de Billredskin

on 2017-12-13T10:52:02-06:00

Method put out the congratulatory tweet for themselves. Am I the only one who finds it funny?

Commentaire de dumenc

on 2017-12-13T10:55:52-06:00

Lots of people making the mathematically impossible jokes. First of all, he was obviously just having fun with the meme. Second of all, he was probably right! After getting a ton more gear from the reset they killed it pretty quickly. Meaning the only thing that was holding them back before was that little bit of extra gear they got from splits and re-running the first 10 bosses on mythic.\r\rMeh. I disagree. If he was so "obviously" just having fun with the meme, most people who have understood it this way. \rAlso, sure, they have better gear, then why say it's mathematically impossible if it's just a matter of gearing? He "obviously" meant that it was just as impossible as Kil'jaeden and needed to be nerfed.\r\rAnd to be honest, whether he was right or not, sarcastic or not, doesn't change my opinion about him that much. He keeps complaining everytime something doesn't go his way, and it's enerving as hell. Those guilds want the raids on the PTR so they can train on them. Blizzard listens. The commmunity wants release to mean something, so Blizzard keeps the mythic phase of the last boss a secret. And yet everytime a raid is released, Sco is the first to jump the gun and whine.\r\rWhich pisses me off because A, it's a game ; B, those phases are meant not to be tested, so you've got to expect unbalanced numbers and buggy stuff to happen.\r\rIf you say that it was mathematically impossible, that isn't with your current gear, it's whit the max gear avalible currently, and, as they didn't had that gear, they cannpt say that it was mathematically impossible.

Commentaire de dumenc

on 2017-12-13T10:57:18-06:00

Method put out the congratulatory tweet for themselves. Am I the only one who finds it funny?\r\rthe guy who run the tweets isn't in the raid group, he's congratulating they team.

Commentaire de AlakeiThancan

on 2017-12-13T10:58:34-06:00

If you say that it was mathematically impossible, that isn't with your current gear, it's whit the max gear avalible currently, and, as they didn't had that gear, they cannot say that it was mathematically impossible.\r\rExactly. Saying a boss is impossible without counting for the gear increase is like saying a Nobel Prize is impossible to get because you didn't consider going to school.