Tmobile uses the same 3g frequencies as Europe, so making it work with Tmobile means it can be sold overseas as a 3g phone as well.

At the same time, while ATT is FINALLY joining the android revolution, don't expect them to really push the platform until the iphone is non exclusive (looking to be sometime this year) The iphone is their cash cow, and they want to get as many people pulled in for it as possible.

I just realized something, voice & data only work simultaneously on 3G, not EDGE, oooh that sucks!!!! So if I do take the N1 plundge, it'll have to be with Tmo. Perhaps I'll wait a while to see what HTC devices come to ATT. But that Nexus One is one heck of a beast of a phone!!!!!!!

Question: If voice & data work simutaneously on a 3G network, would that mean that it can work on t-mobile's 3G network? I ask because i have not seen any tv ads boast about that feature like the way AT&T does.

That's because TMo really has no beef with competitors yet and AT&T flipped out when they saw VZW's map commercials. Not mention they tried suing them because they claimed the commercials were unclear and people were thinking the maps represented basic service not 3G. So, in an effort to maintain their customer base as well as gain new customers, they are trying to take multiple stabs at VZW using a washed up actor. I work for a VZW retailer and as I see it, their efforts aren't paying off as well as they'd like considering the amount of port-in's I handle weekly. I have no beef with AT&T as I was with cingular for some time, just to clear that up!

Maybe i didn't clarify somewhere (my apologies for that). My original question was, since AT&T's 3G network allows for voice & data at the same time, does T-Mobile's 3G network have that same capability.

T-Mobile does not use the same 3G band in the US as the European standard. The reason for no AT&T 3G love is that AT&T uses 1900mhz for 3G and T-Mobile uses 1700mhz. So, they have to pick one or the other. T-Mobile has been nice to Android and google, so they get the best phone on the market... as well, At&T was approached by Google, and they basically told google to get lost.

They are going to be making an AT&T version eventually, at least Google wants to, it is up to AT&T to green light it in the end. With Verizon getting it, T-Mobile already has it, Sprint wants it and likely will get it, it is going to be really hard for AT&T not to carry this phone.

As it stands, the only reason they don't have Android devices is because of the iPhone, which is dumb IMHO. AT&T needs to get on Android ASAP, or they are going to be in a big hole when they lose their iPhone exclusive contract (rumored to be this year).

As for a keyboard version, every G1 owner is waiting for that day. There are some rumors, but the leaked HTC roadmap at this point doesn't have any promising devices on it to be that phone. However, it w...(continues)

Not so much about the Nexus One, but AT&T basically ignored the Open Handset Alliance, of which TMO and Sprint didn't and joined.

I'm sure things will change, if AT&T wants a killer Android phone, just like what happened with VZW and the Moto-Droid, believe me, HTC, Motorola or whomever will provide one for them. They are a large 85 million plus carriers and for the most part can get what they want.

Many of T-Mobile's phones are dual- or tri-band 3G and therefore can use 3G in Europe. My point was that nowhere near all of them are; plenty are single-band 3G.

There are always efforts to "harmonize" the bands worldwide, but it's next to impossible. There are very good reasons why different countries end up using different bands. That will always be the case. T-Mobile had zero choice about using the 1700 band for its US 3G network; it was 1700 or nothing.

I'm not sure what you mean by cheaper roaming. Most T-Mobile phones are at least quad-band GSM now, so you can roam (including data) in most countries, it just won't be at 3G speeds because those single-band phones don't support any...(continues)

Ah I just thought that if both Tmo Europe & Tmo stateside had all the same 3G phone that data roaming would be easier & cheaper.

? For you: MWC is next month right? Are you going to be there representing us? And if so, do you think theres any chance that HTC will give us a peak at what Android handset they are making for ATT? I'm very eager to find out.