Glenn Beck on Trump: Thank goodness there’s finally a candidate who knows how to curse at our enemies

posted at 8:37 pm on April 29, 2011 by Allahpundit

Via Mediaite, weapons-grade sarcasm aimed squarely at Trump’s empty bravado. A commenter in the earlier thread sneered at me for dumping on him, praising his “alphalicious” Vegas speech as something a beta male predictably wouldn’t appreciate. In fact, that’s one of my secret pleasures in watching his candidacy — observing how some “true conservatives” (not all or most, but some) who’ve spent years ripping on RINOs will instantly start cooing over a tough-talking populist even though he’s betrayed every core right-wing principle in the book. Are you opposed to universal health care and eminent domain abuse and taxes on the rich and protectionism? Well, Trump’s been in favor of all of them at one time or another, but since he’s willing to pound the table about Obama’s birth certificate and tell the Chinese to go f*** themselves, I guess we’ll let it slide. Like Mark Levin, Beck’s standards are higher than that. Too bad that’s not true across the board.

It’s almost impossible to draw a conclusion from that given that the last numbers were taken in January. A lot’s happened since — the budget battles, Trump’s rise, even the Tucson shooting for which Republican rhetoric was unfairly blamed. But here’s an interesting favorable/unfavorable finding in the demographic breakdown:

I.e. there’s a strong correlation between how people view the tea party and how people view Trump. Beck, Levin, Rand Paul and a number of others are trying to undo that, which is why I’m thinking that Trump’s “surprise announcement” may be that he’s going to bypass the GOP and run as a third-party candidate. He has no future in the primary, but as a high-profile independent running an inexpensive bare-bones populist campaign with attention-getting speeches like last night’s, he could probably grab enough votes from the GOP to swing the election. That would give him something to crow about — “I decided the presidency,” etc — which is realistically the best he could hope for. We’ll see.

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Trump is playing his game his way on the media and Obama, he will not run for potus. I give him credit for calling Obama out on several of his failed policies, as well as calling the media out for bowing to this phony 24/7 for the past three years while the country is getting rocked on it’s heals in ways that will damage our foundation for a very long time. Trump has much to lose if America continues it’s slide; can’t blame him for taking action in his fashion and going after those who are damaging his investments. If every business man/woman would follow suit, maybe we’d get some positive results. One things for sure, the GOP leadership has sat back and let Obama and the media run their game with no opposition at all. Boehner has been a huge disappointment and either is a pure wussy or is actually working with the regime while feeding us one line of BS after another. Beck has been engaged in the fight from the beginning. Limbaugh has been in the fight, but has not named names like he said he would. Others are tip toeing around the edges. I give Trump credit for doing what most of the others have failed to do; call Obama and the media out on specific items forcing them to answer questions they want no part of. Trump must have felt he had no other choice and didn’t want to sit there any longer and watch his billion dollar industry collapse without a fight. Trump will not run for president folks, he needed the platform to get things done.

LOL Snarktastic. The country club RINOs love to talk about having a GOP big tent. But, when the opportunity arises to embrace diversity they just don’t seem to get it that milquetoast, beta male white guys don’t come in every color of the rainbow. Therefore Trump and the Tea Party are NOT welcome in the big tent. Works for me. I don’t associate with milquetoast beta males regardless of color. They lose elections, run the country into the ditch and get marxist Democrats elected to run things.

that’s one of my secret pleasures in watching his candidacy — observing how some “true conservatives” (not all or most, but some) who’ve spent years ripping on RINOs will instantly start cooing over a tough-talking populist even though he’s betrayed every core right-wing principle in the book.

Conversely, it’s interesting to watch over-eager analysts reading so much into the Trump phenomenon. That’s all this ever was. Today, in fact, may mark the beginning of the end of Trump.

Conservatives have merely been passing through a political infatuation easily understood in psychological and emotional terms. People are frustrated to the point of madness with GOP complaisance and cowardice. We’ve been watching one after another establishment GOP politicians barely comment on Obama’s and the Left’s assiduous undoing of America — likewise on the media’s wicked collusion in it. Then when we see a figure who wishes to be a part of establishment, someone such as Palin capable of reforming it, actually engage Obama and the Left in a serious and effective way, the GOP swarms and smears her. It’s crazy-making.

What people want is courage and confrontation with the forces of audacious destruction. Trump seemed to be providing it. But he was and is a false, or rather inappropriate, representation of those qualities. And time works it out, or will work it out. I understand the appeal. We wouldn’t be human if we weren’t drawn to his ballsy outspokenness after suffering the cravenly cautious silence of the GOP.

Wait a minute…what does Trump have to do with the Tea Party movement? No Tea Partier that I know takes him seriously. And I hate to burst AP’s bubble but the Tea Party movement is still very much alive. The groups I know about are very active in state and local politics and issues. This was never a nationally organized monolithic movement. And I hate it when pundits and groups like the Tea Party Express try to claim it is or claim they represent it.

observing how some “true conservatives” (not all or most, but some) who’ve spent years ripping on RINOs will instantly start cooing over a tough-talking populist even though he’s betrayed every core right-wing principle in the book. Are you opposed to universal health care and eminent domain abuse and taxes on the rich and protectionism? Well, Trump’s been in favor of all of them at one time or another, but since he’s willing to pound the table about Obama’s birth certificate and tell the Chinese to go f*** themselves, I guess we’ll let it slide.

Amen. With some people, it’s not about principles, it’s about making the “other side’ lose.

AP appears to be an establishment guy, and all establishment guys have little love for the TP and common folk like Palin & Bachmann… The GOP is full of establishment folks who are not going to let the Republican Party be taken over by outsiders who have not walked the proper path to be included in the club; that is not without a fight. Ed M. is a legit TP man, which is why I have so much respect for him and relate to his thoughts and feelings so often. The TP has been attacked on several fronts, including by the GOP leadership. F*ck them all, as this will not slow down the movement but will indeed continue to strengthen it. Boehner is in big trouble for issuing lip service at a time when the only option is to fight the righteous fight and represent the people rather than the establishment.

In fact, that’s one of my secret pleasures in watching his candidacy — observing how some “true conservatives” (not all or most, but some) who’ve spent years ripping on RINOs will instantly start cooing over a tough-talking populist even though he’s betrayed every core right-wing principle in the book.

Try to overcome your betahood for a few moments, to hold two seemingly contradictory facts before you simultaneously: 1) Trump is a RINO 2) Trump is saying many of the things that no one besides Sarah Palin will say. He’s ripping Obama and the media is helplessly sucked into his vortex. They cannot ignore him. The tipping point of America’s awakening is approaching, and Trump had done us good service here.

Forget about the freaking election for once and look at the whole picture. Or is that too alpha for you?

Trump is saying many of the things that no one besides Sarah Palin will say…. Forget about the freaking election for once and look at the whole picture.

disa on April 29, 2011 at 10:29 PM

The whole picture involves not only what a candidate says now, but what (s)he said in the past.

It would seem that Trump’s supporters are completely willing to accept eminent domain, universal health care, tariffs and protectionism, and higher taxes as long as Trump plays the birther card, ignores his previous positions, and uses lots of immature adjectives.

By all means, let us nominate the foul-mouthed carnival barker. Perhaps even support his independent candidacy. Because the potential for four more years of the current Marxist doesn’t present an existential threat to nation.

In fact, that’s one of my secret pleasures in watching his candidacy — observing how some “true conservatives” (not all or most, but some) who’ve spent years ripping on RINOs will instantly start cooing over a tough-talking populist even though he’s betrayed every core right-wing principle in the book.

On a possibly related note, Gallup’s out with a new poll today that holds bad news for tea partiers

Meh – America’s coming around to our view of things. They don’t realize it yet because they don’t know who the Tea Partiers really are – they’ve been the audience for a deeply deceitful media and Soros-et-al-backed campaign. Remember that lies are the only advantage the left has, because they dare not show their true faces. It’s a lot easier to see the truth once you understand what they are.

It will be easier for everyone when they finally make the connection, but their eyes haven’t fully opened yet.

Not surprising, since decent people don’t want to believe that their President actually holds ill-will against them and America.

The whole picture involves not only what a candidate says now, but what (s)he said in the past.

entropent on April 29, 2011 at 11:03 PM

Is it me or are there a lot of deliberately obtuse thinkers about this evening?

It’s not about Trump winning an election, or spoiling one. It’s about BOLDLY DISSING OBAMA. We have to show that not only does the Emperor have no clothes – he’s preparing to sell you and America out.

We have to get the attention of people who generally pay no attention to anything political. And we have to snag it now, so they’ll be somewhat more than peripherally aware of the events that are coming over the next year and a half. They’re getting more and more pissed off, and we want to make sure that they get pissed off about the real reasons behind America’s decline, instead of falling for Obama’s demonization of the week.

Trump is exposing some of these issues, and people will become more comfortable with criticizing Obama. There are already a lot of people who have become desensitized to being called “racist” any time they take issue with Obama’s policies – those arrows don’t hurt anymore. Trump’s showmanship and experience is far superior to Obama’s, and like Sarah Palin, he’s getting inside Obama’s head.

I’ve been hugely approving of Trump’s grandstanding, but I’m certainly not going to vote for him (although in at least one Hot Air poll, I have said he is my favorite at the time of the poll).

Why would I say that if I’ve no intention of voting for him? Because it’s just a dumb poll – what’s going to happen to me if I give a wacky answer? Maybe I just want to make a point and I’m feeling grateful to the man, and want to give him a nod.

So Trump tells it like it is on the economy. Oh no no. He’s not one of us! He was pro life, he was for obama care. Yet he attacked Obama.

So Trump brings up birth certificate. No no Birthers are kooky They arnt Republicans. Polls waver. Obama releases certificate.

If Trump doesnt run fine, but he stirred a pot that needs more stirring. Romeney sure isnt going to be that one.

Romney has his core. I’m curious. If they say 90% of blacks voted for Obama. Can I mention 95% of Mormons voted for Romney? I know numbers are off. I’m still trying to figure out why these races and religious folk are still rooting for thier home town hero.

He has no future in the primary, but as a high-profile independent running an inexpensive bare-bones populist campaign with attention-getting speeches like last night’s, he could probably grab enough votes from the GOP to swing the election.

In the actual election, Trump could pull that off only if the GOP runs a fool. However, the upper GOP has a waiting list of fools, and fool-launchers, so it is possible.

If the GOP ran someone who was running against Obama, and not for the Country Club, Trump would be stumped. From what I see so far, the Country Club has absolutely no intention of allowing upstarts onto the list.

This means, to launch a winner as a GOP candidate, the riff raff will have to invade the machine from the bottom. This is what it took to get Reagan in. Reagan, who attended Eureka College (eureka!), and not Yale or Harvard, had to make an end run past the Club gate to get in

Or – the riff raff will have to scare the Club enough that the Club will settle for the least scary of the most hated candidates and then do their subliminal best to sabatoge the sucker

The Club favorites have been water tested so much they are over exposed. Over exposed unloved politicians are vote repellers. Some of them even figured this out

The bunk about the demise of the Tea Party is bunk. Right now, the Tea Party does not have an election, and so far the current Congress has not done enough to indicate whether or not they are truly changing direction. The Tea Party is on hold like a time bomb

The wall will be hit and it may not be the debt crisis. It could be something smaller, but more piercing. When the needle pricks draw enough blood, there will be a collective shout and it will not be from the left.

The debt ceiling is not a politically critical as the tolerance ceiling of the non dead Tea Party

What these people have in common is hatred for Obama, even if they voted for him. Because they think he is ripping off their future, they also hate anyone who supports Obama. They have a mission to keep out anyone who will not fight Obama hard

That is Trump’s card, and he played it well. They is why the effle word only bothers wonks and not ticket buyers

Trump is saying he too is effling mad

If your baby fell in the river, would you gravitate to the one who told you to wait until tomorrow, or the one who ran to the effling river?

I hate to say it, but Trump played the press like a violin. They spread his message because it was supposed to be disgusting, but instead it rang bells all over. Trump isn’t Reagan philosophically, but he is playing the press like a pro, which he is

Some here have stated that Trump said he will make an announcement. I thought he revealed that he will make an announcement regarding whether he will run for President of the United States of America.

If there is another, important announcement he intends to make, it could be any of the following:

He is Barack Hussein Barry Soetero Obama Idi Amin’s twin brother.

He is backing Barack Hussein Barry Soetero Obama Idi Amin in the 2012 election, including a huge monetary contribution.

He, Donald Trump, reveals he is an Alien from outer space, that he brought living organisms to this planet when it was a lifeless rock, and that he was the commander and leading scientist in the trillions of years in advance of us – intellectually, intelligence, aptitude, technology, etc., – alien civilization, and that this entire planet’s living organisms, including Human Beings, did not “Evolve” here, but were and are the result of Designed, Engineered, and strictly supervised experiments performed by Donald Trump and h is fellow SZTPLITSTKriplaztifidians from a planet trillions of trillions of light centuries beyond our galaxy, and several trillion of universes beyond us in the Multiverse.

Donald Trump’s big announcement could be that George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Mosad, the Israelis, and Sarah Palin DID commit the attack on 9/11/2001 and were actually falsely accusing Osama bin Laden, and al Qaeda just because they want to make money, instill fear, rule the world, and expand the Military-Industrial complex, and also because they are the highest level of demons from the deepest pit of the deepest, most powerful hell.

Donald Trump might announce that he is actually not a man, but a woman acting like a man, because a woman would not be taken seriously, or succeed, as a power player in the world of Real Estate.

Donald might announce that he has been having an affair with Mrs. Obama, or Sarah Palin, or Barbara Walters, or Oprah, or Joy Behar, or Scarlet Johansen, and that Barack Hussein Barry Soetero Obama Idi Amin is his love child, who was actually NOT born in the USA, but WAS born in Peru, where he was raised among the mountain men.

Donald might announce that he is going to try out for the NBA, MLB, NFL, NHL, or the UFC, and that he was training for the past five years with the very best trainers that money can buy.

Donald might announce that Bruce Lee is really alive, that he has been in hiding, and that he is better than ever, faster, stronger, and super powerful, and that he will come out to teach the world how to attain Nirvikalpa Samadhi, and Savikalpa Samadhi, and that Bruce Lee will fight in the UFC, defeating all comers within less than 30 seconds, and so dominate the UFC, and all other martial arts tournaments and training centers throughout the world that all Sifus, Senseis, and so forth, and all their students, will bow down in reverential respect and ask to be accepted as Bruce Lee’s students. Bruce Lee – Lee Siu Luhng – Lee Little Dragon.

Finally, maybe Donald Trump will announce that he will sing with the Philadelphia Orchestra, performing works by Puccini, Bach, Vaughan Williams, Beethoven, Mozart, Stravinsky, Verdi, Andrew Lloyd Webber, and John Williams, and that proceeds will go to saving the Philadelphia Orchestra.

Regarding the Tea Party movement, I have a very high opinion of the Tea Party movement, more than 90% approval rating.

I don’t expect the general public, when asked in a poll, to rate the Tea Party highly, any more than I expect them to think that pro-lifers are good, or that abortion is bad, or that Muslims are, as a matter of fact, quite intolerant as a group compared to others on planet earth.

I don’t expect that any more than I expect the general public who still get their opinion dictated to them by the entertainment industry, and main stream media, and the education system, all of which are predominently leftist and fabricate and distort facts and paint Conservatives with a false image.

The masses are brainwashed, still, by the leftist press, celebrity outlets of the entertainment industry, and the brainwashing, propaganda mill of the education system, and as a result they think the Tea Party are people who give oral sex to people of the same sex, or that the Tea Party hates “immigrants,” or that the Tea Party hates blacks, Hispanics, and everyone who isn’t white – racists, or that the Tea Party are all filthy rich white men who want to live off the backs of the poor, all flat out lies which were perpetrated by the three main propaganda outlets in the USA mentioned above – entertainment industry, education industry, main stream media.

The Tea Party leadership and activists are fair minded, strong, and well informed. They won’t back Trump out of hand without considering what they are doing. They are not so dumb that they will not realize that Trump backed Obama, the Democrats, Universal-Government Run Health Care, and worse.

Conversely, it’s interesting to watch over-eager analysts reading so much into the Trump phenomenon. That’s all this ever was. Today, in fact, may mark the beginning of the end of Trump.

Conservatives have merely been passing through a political infatuation easily understood in psychological and emotional terms. People are frustrated to the point of madness with GOP complaisance and cowardice. We’ve been watching one after another establishment GOP politicians barely comment on Obama’s and the Left’s assiduous undoing of America — likewise on the media’s wicked collusion in it. Then when we see a figure who wishes to be a part of establishment, someone such as Palin capable of reforming it, actually engage Obama and the Left in a serious and effective way, the GOP swarms and smears her. It’s crazy-making.

What people want is courage and confrontation with the forces of audacious destruction. Trump seemed to be providing it. But he was and is a false, or rather inappropriate, representation of those qualities. And time works it out, or will work it out. I understand the appeal. We wouldn’t be human if we weren’t drawn to his ballsy outspokenness after suffering the cravenly cautious silence of the GOP.

Doesnt it say a lot about you so called conservatives that if a clown like him runs for president it would be over? That many people from your political family fall for a dumba.. like the Donald and would really vote for him? What does it say about the GOP followers, the conservatives and the Tea Party movement?

Democrats are in a permanent panic because Obama is such a failure on so many fronts. And so they grasp at any distraction and blow it up to try and hide the failures of Obama.
Trump figures he has until May 22 (when his TV show is over for the season) to confront Obama. I am guessing one of the reasons he is doing all this is his TV show ratings were dipping and he is trying to get more audience so the show is renewed for next year. (Or he knows the show is already cancelled for next year and he wants a new PR stunt – such as running for President.)
But to Trump I say keep up the continual asking of Obama the questions. It makes the media and Obama very nervous and plants more doubt in the wisdom of choosing Obama for President in the first place.

A commenter in the earlier thread sneered at me for dumping on him, praising his “alphalicious” Vegas speech as something a beta male predictably wouldn’t appreciate.

Good God man, this was just a little joshing on my part…Friday afternoon, cocktail hour? If I didn’t respect you or Ed, I wouldn’t spend so much time here reading and enjoying your material. Anyway, where can I send a basket of fresh muffins or cupcakes to in apology?

And I appreciate you finally headlining Palin in a serious way in the QOTD.

Good God man, this was just a little joshing on my part…Friday afternoon, cocktail hour? If I didn’t respect you or Ed, I wouldn’t spend so much time here reading and enjoying your material. Anyway, where can I send a basket of fresh muffins or cupcakes to in apology?

And I appreciate you finally headlining Palin in a serious way in the QOTD.

RepubChica on April 30, 2011 at 9:12 AM

For someone who doesn’t believe in God, AP sure does have one hell of a martyr complex.

Who or what started the debate about the national debt?—Newt? Boehner? Obama? Biden? Romney? Reid? Huckabee? Daniels? Trump? Hell no it wasn’t them!
It was the ” Tea Party! Who are the people who articulate that argument for the Tea Party?–Palin, Bachman, Ryan! That’s who. What are liberals most afraid of? They are afraid of this nation being a world power and strong financially. So it only follows they hate those spox for the Tea Party position.

Trump has shown (for whatever reason) leadership in doing the job McCain avoided -telling the truth -even when it’s uncomfortable. It matters not about the birther game-but it does matter that no one in the red guard media chose to do a Bob Woodward type investigation isto why so much money was put down to cover up this man’s history. We still know nothing about him (that’s good) and still few in the opposition dare take any risk to attack what he’s doing to our country in the name of the Alinsky gods.

I will vote for no one who hopes to back into the presidency by default and deception ( are you listening GOP?)who lacks sufficient courage to go after this man and his deadly agenda -including slaughtering innocent babies after they’re born. After life, comes the other issues. Without life, there are none.

Trump’s Truths:
- He had investigators in HI
- His investigators in HI who had found shocking facts, facts they could not believe.
- The BC was missing
- We can lower gas prices by swearing at the Arab’s
- We can fix our economy by adding a 25% tariff on Chinese, failing that we can fix things by calling them MF’s.
- That he was withing the margin of error on the CNN poll (A poll that does not exist)
- That he avoided Vietnam due to his “high draft number”, when it was really due to his 5 or 6 deferments.
That he’s been a republican for “a long time” (Since 2008)

What’s wrong with a guy who can out curse the opecs, you should hear what they call us. Why not a guy who supports whoever works in our interest, and makes life difficult for our enemies using any means available. What the matter with trying something, admitting your wrong and changing tactics when it doesn’t work instead of staying a losing course. Stop losing money, giving comfort to our enemies, risking our lives for people who hate us for nothing. Spewing anger over our demise, no teleprompters needed.
Naw, we don’t need rinos, or party guys any more than union thugs. Gimme someone to kick a$$ and a system of checks and balances and we win. Mr. nice guy or mr. idaelism and we lose. I think you and a lot of others just can”t handle his narcissism AP.

Stranger things have happened. Betcha if Trump had his way, Palin would be on his short list for a running mate. But probably Palin would decline any third party crap. Trump really wants Øbama out of the WH, so hopefully he’d decline a third party run too.

Palin and Trump seem to respect each other. As she said a day or two ago, “He’s our buddy! We appreciate and respect Donald Trump.”

I’m with Palin on this one. I wish others on our side, instead of bashing Trump publicly, would handle the matter equally well.

I don’t care what anyone says, Trump is a Dem operative. Nothing about this makes any sense. He’s not even a Ron Paul populist. He’s all over the board. And it’s not a coincidence that since his “rise to political fame” that the tea party has lost support.

And don’t anyone dare connect Palin to Trump. Why not just put an albatross around her and the tea party’s neck? Same thing.

I understand people want someone to speak loudly, but Trump? Really? The man is not real. He’s a phony. I have a feeling that after he’s done playing around there will be some really good land deals for him in Chicago and DC. Something about this whole thing smells.