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Dagorod, I think you missed the point of my post. When I said I didn't like the way you SPAR I didn't mean it was lame to use your skills OUTSIDE of lc3. You can play anyway you want if you're not sparring. However if you've played for as long as you claim, then you would know that at lc3 there is some rules to make it fairer for everyone It wouldn't only benefit me to play with some restriction but you and everyone else who comes to 1v1s.

P.S the only reason I lost twice to you was because I made the stupid mistake of trying to play fair. I realised after those 2 spars that it was pointless and I sparred lame aswell

P.P.S Send me a tell anytime so I can enlighten you some more.

Ugly, i do play for long coz i remember back then when lc3 was nothing and the unofficial spar area was northwest of HH (2nd spar area, Tir HS).
That was at lvl 50, when spars were much more interesting, last longer (even if we had 3k hp) and ppl care about fair play more than now! Back then, yes, there were some unwritten rules which every decent creep/freep follow!
The fact that i was playing both sides, helped me also to learn skills from many classes both sides, thus i could judge what is not fair to use (like SoM for humans, T&G for burgls, Pledge guards...and hunters DF lol). These things were known by almost everyone, so we had these rules in general, exept if you arrenge specific spar rules!
Now what?
I return to EM 4 months ago, i have almost no contact on creep side, most skills are unknown to me and noone told me what unwritten rules count nowdays! I will not hear the unwritten rules from 3-4 creeps, which they died much and they feel rage....as Blindings said (which is my kins sworn enemy, but still respected...at least by me), untill unwritten rules are written down, all usage of skills allowed! (maybe not exact words, but thats who it is).

You said that after those 2 spar you lost, you start playing lame, right? And i told you i played all my skills in all 4 spars!
Now, tell me please, how you win at the very 1st spar, if you werent lame and i was using same skills as other spars??
Waterlore didnt save me there....and next 2 spars which i won, were close to loose in some point..lasted 3mins each, while spar No4 lasted 30secs (actually its the spar you said you went lame)
For me, fair is when spars have an interest during fight, when you dont really know from start if you gonna loose or win....and from my point of view, thats exactly happend in our spars.
1st spar i die, you had half hp...2nd 3rd i won but it wasnt far from loosing when my hp droped at 2k at some points...4th i lost and you had full hp. Cant be more balanced than that....
If i didnt use waterlore, sticky and kite..well...dude im sure you dont like clubbing, do you?

Ugly, i do play for long coz i remember back then when lc3 was nothing and the unofficial spar area was northwest of HH (2nd spar area, Tir HS).
That was at lvl 50, when spars were much more interesting, last longer (even if we had 3k hp) and ppl care about fair play more than now! Back then, yes, there were some unwritten rules which every decent creep/freep follow!
The fact that i was playing both sides, helped me also to learn skills from many classes both sides, thus i could judge what is not fair to use (like SoM for humans, T&G for burgls, Pledge guards...and hunters DF lol). These things were known by almost everyone, so we had these rules in general, exept if you arrenge specific spar rules!
Now what?
I return to EM 4 months ago, i have almost no contact on creep side, most skills are unknown to me and noone told me what unwritten rules count nowdays! I will not hear the unwritten rules from 3-4 creeps, which they died much and they feel rage....as Blindings said (which is my kins sworn enemy, but still respected...at least by me), untill unwritten rules are written down, all usage of skills allowed! (maybe not exact words, but thats who it is).

You said that after those 2 spar you lost, you start playing lame, right? And i told you i played all my skills in all 4 spars!
Now, tell me please, how you win at the very 1st spar, if you werent lame and i was using same skills as other spars??
Waterlore didnt save me there....and next 2 spars which i won, were close to loose in some point..lasted 3mins each, while spar No4 lasted 30secs (actually its the spar you said you went lame)
For me, fair is when spars have an interest during fight, when you dont really know from start if you gonna loose or win....and from my point of view, thats exactly happend in our spars.
1st spar i die, you had half hp...2nd 3rd i won but it wasnt far from loosing when my hp droped at 2k at some points...4th i lost and you had full hp. Cant be more balanced than that....
If i didnt use waterlore, sticky and kite..well...dude im sure you dont like clubbing, do you?

First spar I got lucky with crits. Next few I wasn't so lucky and I lose twice in a row. I realise you play with every cd like a pro so I started playing every cd and you saw the results. I can understand that everyone has different views on 1v1s and that's fair enough. I just won't spar you again since I can have fights like that open pvp. When I spar I like to challenge myself and I don't find it challenging 2 shotting things with impale. And I already said that both creep and freep restrict on using some skills so if you don't use wl and tar I wouldn't use impale, ds and wrath. And that would be a fair spar
And like I already said I don't care about unwritten rules in open pvp you can use whatever you want. But when you are at lc3 sparring there is rules. At least for me. If people don't use cds I don't use cds. If people use everything I use everything, it's that simple.
Oh and I do like clubbing ask anyone and they'll tell you how Ugly clubbed his ranks at lc3. How'd you think I got r13?!

Ugly, i do play for long coz i remember back then when lc3 was nothing and the unofficial spar area was northwest of HH (2nd spar area, Tir HS).
That was at lvl 50, when spars were much more interesting, last longer (even if we had 3k hp) and ppl care about fair play more than now! Back then, yes, there were some unwritten rules which every decent creep/freep follow!

I don't recall any "rules" at that point. Every class were using what did have available; just the win skills were so limited and underpowered that they didn't stir the balance.

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I don't recall any "rules" at that point. Every class were using what did have available; just the win skills were so limited and underpowered that they didn't stir the balance.

So, you dont remember that using SoM and other long cd skills was not allowed?? (according unwritten rules back then)
Freep 3k hp, a warg/reaver or whatever bring him down, spar is so close for both sides...and baaam, full hp, spar won, ty SoM!
The thing is that most of spars were pre-arrenged and ppl used to speak eachother in spar area (almost every time there was a freep/creep to communicate)...that solved many "fair" issues.After some sparring, you could understand what is fair or not, so as time passed unwritten rules were known to everyone!
And yes, i agree that most skills couldnt make the difference,but some made huge difference and decent ppl didnt use em in 1v1.

Maybe you just dont remember well Greto...or maybe you were not so decent back then!

For what cds you are talking about Ugly? Can you please...enlighten me?

That goes the other way around also....i use wl and tar, you use impale etc. And that would be a fair spar too imo

Still i dont get the cds you are saying, but i would vote for everything anyway.

Dont play dumb, you know exactly which cds since you were the one burning them
And nope, thats not fair sparring because you would get your a55 handed to you everytime. And dont say you won twice it doesnt mean anything since I didnt use cds in those.
You can vote for whatever you want, but that just proves how stupid you are.

Dont play dumb, you know exactly which cds since you were the one burning them
And nope, thats not fair sparring because you would get your a55 handed to you everytime. And dont say you won twice it doesnt mean anything since I didnt use cds in those.
You can vote for whatever you want, but that just proves how stupid you are.

Waiting eagerly for your next post so I can laugh at you some more.

I wasnt play dumb...i asked you, with a nice way something and you didnt answer! Ok so far...its your right not to answer!

The problem is that everybody want to f@ck! Men like to f@ck, dwarfs like to f@ck, even hobbits like to f@ck, almost as much as they like breakfast! Sometimes, an Orc might have the desire to f@ck too, but there comes a major problem! In order to f@ck, you must have the right equipment, like men and dwarfs and hobbit have....unfortunatly, God (aka devs) gave to orcs a 4cm tool, which is totaly useless, thus when an orc try to f@ck, its hilarious!!! Untill God fix that problem for poor orcs, instead of QQing all the time, you can do this---> visit a plastic sergery, turn to Orclady...and enjoy!!!

The problem is that everybody want to f@ck! Men like to f@ck, dwarfs like to f@ck, even hobbits like to f@ck, almost as much as they like breakfast! Sometimes, an Orc might have the desire to f@ck too, but there comes a major problem! In order to f@ck, you must have the right equipment, like men and dwarfs and hobbit have....unfortunatly, God (aka devs) gave to orcs a 4cm tool, which is totaly useless, thus when an orc try to f@ck, its hilarious!!! Untill God fix that problem for poor orcs, instead of QQing all the time, you can do this---> visit a plastic sergery, turn to Orclady...and enjoy!!!

You can go to your cave now...

Lol when you have nothing better to say, why not turn to jokes about d*ck size... Btw the fact that you are grouped 24/7 with cappy and healers tells us a lot about the size of your genitals. (If you didn't get it, ask a friend as I understand you have limited intelligence)

P.S. Have you ever looked under my loincloth?? Believe me the Orc ladies are always satisfied

Lol when you have nothing better to say, why not turn to jokes about d*ck size... Btw the fact that you are grouped 24/7 with cappy and healers tells us a lot about the size of your genitals. (If you didn't get it, ask a friend as I understand you have limited intelligence)

P.S. Have you ever looked under my loincloth?? Believe me the Orc ladies are always satisfied

P.S. Have you ever looked under my loincloth?? Believe me the Orc ladies are always satisfied

Many many moons ago I was in an Urugarth group with a female hobbit tank. We killed the Gatekeeper (a huge orc wearing only a large loincloth) and at one point I innocently commented that "he's a big lad". Without missing a beat the hobbit (a female player as well as character) replied "you should see him from my point of view". We laughed. A lot.

The problem is that everybody want to f@ck! Men like to f@ck, dwarfs like to f@ck, even hobbits like to f@ck, almost as much as they like breakfast! Sometimes, an Orc might have the desire to f@ck too, but there comes a major problem! In order to f@ck, you must have the right equipment, like men and dwarfs and hobbit have....unfortunatly, God (aka devs) gave to orcs a 4cm tool, which is totaly useless, thus when an orc try to f@ck, its hilarious!!! Untill God fix that problem for poor orcs, instead of QQing all the time, you can do this---> visit a plastic sergery, turn to Orclady...and enjoy!!!

Isn't it funny how every1 has a good night without faildo making raids against solos small grps was fun for a change tonight till fail made raid, will this burg disappear in update 13 if all stays as br goes as planned?

I have a R5 Defiler (Strawb) and a R1 Spider (Strawt). Progress has stalled on them because I'm all out of quest items - donations from ESO emigrants welcome! - and I'm far too rubbish at them both to play them in proper PvP.