It seems that turbo cars are the way of the future.. Either accept it, or stfu and move on to something different! At least now, you won't have to spend so much money to get added hp. This car could be a huge advantage for all the enthusiasts that want more power to compete with Z06s, GTRs and other mod friendly cars that could be a step up in stock power. Tuners will love this thing.
I'm all for it.

OK, found some numbers to justify my theory that this new (M) coupe just looks too long.

If we assume the F32/F82 share the same wheelbase as the F30, it would have a wheelbase of 2810mm, i.e. 110.6". The E90/90 has a wheelbase of 108.7", and the E63 6er had a wheelbase of 109.5"! So the new coupe will likely have a full inch longer wheel base than the big old 650i. That is crazy. No wonder it seems so big and looks like a 6-series going around the track.

I'm sure it will be a good looking car, but I don't think I want a coupe much bigger than my E92.

I think the 4e r will have a 108" wheelbase. Reason being, the a5 has a shorter WB than the a4, and the 6er shorter WB than the 5er. Now that they are distinguishing the coupe from the sedan, i think there will be significant dimensional differences. Rear seat leg room is not a major priority in the f32/f82.

So turbo is very good. BMW just need to do it right in the next M3 (like no HPFP problems).

Racing version of GT-R has a NA V8. Bugatti doesn't participate in Motorsports, race 911 is a GT3, not a Turbo. Only WRC (rally cars) use turbo, but they have 4WD and anti-lag, what is not road legal. Well, now in WTCC they also went from NA 2.0l I4 to FI 1.6l I4.

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Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Exactly. The 1M is the best //M in years imo.

Cheers
Robin

E82M < E46M CSL

till the end of the world, unless BMW brings up a new M2 CSL powered by a FI I4.

Just a bunch of 2012 M3 owners hating this new M because of the sound! It's pretty much the only flaw of downsizing the engine. We get it, you buy a car based on the engine sound, or you're just hating cuz you still have a fairly new M3 muahaha

The fact is, this car is going to drive better than your M3! M has been improving every generation and has not disappointed so far.

It is not completely in proportion in relation from headlights (eye-bags) to the air intakes as it was sketch in a few minutes.
But it is a fairly accurate rendition of the aerodynamics packet for the M4. Some of the details are inherited from the larger M6 , but some are new especially around the lower areas of the aerodynamics.

The appearance is distinctively M. Restrained and understated until you get behind the wheel. The M4 continues the approach taken with the new generation of BMW's to make them more coherent and some of the best-looking cars on the road today.
Proportions of the Coupe give it a very elegant but sport-dynamic that will extend its appeal , especially to those that pine for a 6er and cannot extend financially. Like previous Coupe models it forgoes the removal of the B-Pillar which is a key BMW Coupe feature where structural rigidity has far more importance than clean elegance.

The more sporting profile also lends BMW its opportunity to forge a new niche in the mid-level segment with the 4er Gran Coupe to sit alongside the 4er Coupe and Cabrio. Again like the larger 6er Gran Coupe, the 4er Gran Coupe aims to mate the benefits of four doors with the style, pace, dynamics and efficiency of the 4er Coupe.
Add further dynamic proficiency , precision and high performance for the flagship M4 Gran Coupe.

Damn scott. That was a big big big big insight. Normally you aren't so revealing. So from your sketch we can assume the CF roof will be contoured like the M6, it will have similar front bumper design, and the mirrors reflect the m5/6 more than the fork like setup from the e36/e9x. I know all that could well change but I like that. A smaller, lighter, cheaper (because as you said I can't afford a 130k car) M6

It is not completely in proportion in relation from headlights (eye-bags) to the air intakes as it was sketch in a few minutes.
But it is a fairly accurate rendition of the aerodynamics packet for the M4. Some of the details are inherited from the larger M6 , but some are new especially around the lower areas of the aerodynamics.

The appearance is distinctively M. Restrained and understated until you get behind the wheel. The M4 continues the approach taken with the new generation of BMW's to make them more coherent and some of the best-looking cars on the road today.
Proportions of the Coupe give it a very elegant but sport-dynamic that will extend its appeal , especially to those that pine for a 6er and cannot extend financially. Like previous Coupe models it forgoes the removal of the B-Pillar which is a key BMW Coupe feature where structural rigidity has far more importance than clean elegance.

The more sporting profile also lends BMW its opportunity to forge a new niche in the mid-level segment with the 4er Gran Coupe to sit alongside the 4er Coupe and Cabrio. Again like the larger 6er Gran Coupe, the 4er Gran Coupe aims to mate the benefits of four doors with the style, pace, dynamics and efficiency of the 4er Coupe.
Add further dynamic proficiency , precision and high performance for the flagship M4 Gran Coupe.

Damn Scott! Thanks for the info\sketch!
If it has the same CF roof (or closely similar in design) to the M6, then, this car will be fricken amazing!
Scott, is this rendition pretty close (with the exception of LEDs, CF roof)? http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=696540

Seeing what BMW did with the 1M, I'm sure they will follow suit with the new M3 and M4.