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I just want them to finally make Cyclops a villain. I think that would be a really good long game for them. He already gives off a great Magneto vibe.

I'm not thinking full on "kill all humans" but more "if it's between saving a human and a mutant, I'm going mutant every time". That's just enough of a grey area to push Scott into understandable bad guy territory.

Cyclops could make a pretty great villain. Optic blast and all that would make him pretty compelling and frightening pretty quick. When you can just stare at the guy next to you and reduce him, screaming, to burning ash with your disapproving gaze, well...

Not sure how it'd feel in the longterm, though. Being Xavier's greatest student and all. Plus, turning Emma Frost only to turn bad himself.

Me and Automaticzen are bros in this. And my LCS sided with the Avengers, going by the stuff they put up this week, the Tokyo Roses. And not only were Logan's Runts kicking butt in WatXM without permission, Scott's Tots came and bailed out Wolverine's team in a fight against Exodus in Legacy. The only reason Cyclops looks bad now is because he was deliberately written that way in AvX #1 to be the bad guy. They even have him on the banner ads Marvel's running on the comic sites beating up Hope, and I'm all wut?

I do wonder when Children's Crusade occurred during all this, because New Avengers #24 mentioned Spider Island just happening, which was mentioned in CC too. Has it been months? Weeks? did that Avengers teammup in Uncanny happen the day before AvX?

Remender said that he was very excited to write the original Captain Marvel Vs. Thor in his "Secret Avengers" tie-in issues, nothing that Mar-Vell will be back from the dead for this story due to the impact of the Phoenix Force. He teased that Marvel has some plans overall for Marvel Boy as well, and Brian Michael Bendis would be working with that character's long term fate.

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Me and Automaticzen are bros in this. And my LCS sided with the Avengers, going by the stuff they put up this week, the Tokyo Roses. And not only were Logan's Runts kicking butt in WatXM without permission, Scott's Tots came and bailed out Wolverine's team in a fight against Exodus in Legacy. The only reason Cyclops looks bad now is because he was deliberately written that way in AvX #1 to be the bad guy. They even have him on the banner ads Marvel's running on the comic sites beating up Hope, and I'm all wut?

I do wonder when Children's Crusade occurred during all this, because New Avengers #24 mentioned Spider Island just happening, which was mentioned in CC too. Has it been months? Weeks? did that Avengers teammup in Uncanny happen the day before AvX?

Trying to make sense of Children's Crusade will only lead to pain, confusion and misery heh.

Me and Automaticzen are bros in this. And my LCS sided with the Avengers, going by the stuff they put up this week, the Tokyo Roses. And not only were Logan's Runts kicking butt in WatXM without permission, Scott's Tots came and bailed out Wolverine's team in a fight against Exodus in Legacy. The only reason Cyclops looks bad now is because he was deliberately written that way in AvX #1 to be the bad guy. They even have him on the banner ads Marvel's running on the comic sites beating up Hope, and I'm all wut?

Indeed. I don't necessarily have a problem with this idea, but the writers haven't done the work to get to the "Cyclops is evil" point. People seem to confuse "repressed boring douche" with "super villain". Cyclops hasn't really been wrong in his actions. They're not the best actions, but they have all been for the survival of his people, and they've been mostly borne out as correct.

But AvX is definitely setting up for him to take the fall, but I think that they'll be following it up with whatever Cable was talking about at the end of X-Sanction #4.

The writers haven't paid their dues for the story they seemingly want to tell.

I do wonder when Children's Crusade occurred during all this, because New Avengers #24 mentioned Spider Island just happening, which was mentioned in CC too. Has it been months? Weeks? did that Avengers teamup in Uncanny happen the day before AvX?

Indeed. I'm mainly hoping that Scarlet Witch will be a big part of the end of AvX.

Remender said that he was very excited to write the original Captain Marvel Vs. Thor in his "Secret Avengers" tie-in issues, nothing that Mar-Vell will be back from the dead for this story due to the impact of the Phoenix Force. He teased that Marvel has some plans overall for Marvel Boy as well, and Brian Michael Bendis would be working with that character's long term fate.

The only reason Cyclops looks bad now is because he was deliberately written that way in AvX #1 to be the bad guy. They even have him on the banner ads Marvel's running on the comic sites beating up Hope, and I'm all wut?

I don't know about that - I think you can make a pretty strong case for Scott being in a downward spiral to the darkside since his possession by Apocalypse and Jean's last death.

The only reason Cyclops looks bad now is because he was deliberately written that way in AvX #1 to be the bad guy. They even have him on the banner ads Marvel's running on the comic sites beating up Hope, and I'm all wut?

I don't know about that - I think you can make a pretty strong case for Scott being in a downward spiral to the darkside since his possession by Apocalypse and Jean's last death.