I think that the roman republic wouldn't have ended if Julius Caesar hadn't existed. If Julius was never alive, that means the Senate would have no reason to kill Julius so that the republic would be saved. Julius' son wouldn't have taken over to begin the empire because he wouldn't have been alive, because Julius wouldn't have been.

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Kiley D.

11/20/2015 01:06:58 pm

I completely agree with you and I think that you did a very good job describing why you think what you think.

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Dylan H.

11/27/2015 05:25:18 pm

But you have to remember that Julius' son was adopted. Thus had Julius not exist, it wouldn't necessarily stop Octavian/Augustus from taking over and beginning the empire.

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Claire A.

11/27/2015 08:33:21 pm

Dylan, I totally understand what you're getting at. But, I believe that back then and in society today a child's life depends on who raises the child. Caeser was a powerful man and only because of that, Octavian did what he did. He most likely would not be able to construct the Roman Empire if he was not the adopted son of Julius Caeser. So, if Julius didn't exist, there would still be an Octavian. But Octavian would've been raised by whoever else, so Octavian wouldn't be able to obtain the power he once did if his adopted father was not to exist.

Mr. Kaciuba

11/30/2015 06:56:58 am

The reason in my opinion why Augustus was powerful was because JC was his father. If Caesar didn't exist would we even know who Octavian was?

Delia B.

11/30/2015 04:11:11 pm

That is very true! So, Augustus could have taken over and began something new.

ethan.v

12/1/2015 06:41:01 pm

i agree maybe it would be different because if Julius didn't become a general Agustin wouldn't be inspired to become a emperor. so Julius is a big role in this

Gabby O.

11/29/2015 08:40:49 pm

I do agree, and you bring up some new, and thought prevoking statments for me

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Kiley D.

11/20/2015 01:05:22 pm

I think that the Roman republic would not have ended if Julius Caesar had not existed. I think this because either way Rome would have come to figure out that it would be a very good idea to have a republic. They would have also figured out it would have been more beneficial for there army to win more wars.

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Daniel O

11/20/2015 01:14:35 pm

I think you are partly right Kiley because the Rome would have fall any way but if Julius Caesar did't exist Rome would have fallen a lot sooner

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Sean O.

11/29/2015 05:32:31 pm

I agree with Daniel. With out his knowledge Rome would fall easily.

Daniel O

11/20/2015 01:06:00 pm

Yes because when the Senate killed Julius the Roman Republic fell shortly after. Julius also won many battles for Rome and defeated Gaul. Rome also took over all of the Mediterranean sea because Julius knew how to fight and without Julius Rome would be finished because Rome would not have as good as an army.

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Kiley D.

11/20/2015 01:08:37 pm

They fell because they all got into disagreements over killing him, not necessarily what he did.

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Daniel O

11/20/2015 01:22:47 pm

When the Senate killed Julius the Republic fell shortly after so without Julius Rome would have fell sooner so with Julius Rome stayed alive for a little bit longer because of his knowledge

Alisa P.

11/29/2015 02:47:43 pm

It couldn't have been what he did, all he did was protect the plebeians to get them equal rights, only that the patricians didn't seem to want the plebeians happy. Patricians made the incorrect decision..

Delia B.

11/30/2015 04:06:49 pm

I agree with both of you but, the Roman Republic fell because Julius was killed by the Senate. The Senates and Pompey started to dislike Julius because they predicted and thought that Julius would become too in control and they were at a disadvantage. Which is consider a action by getting called back to Rome. The Senate told Caesar to come back by himself, but he came back with a strong and brave army. Sadly, Julius's best friend led him to where the Senate were waiting for him, and then Julius's friend was the first to stab him!😢 Then after that they started to become excited, but not for the Plebeians! They were very upset and lost hope that they would get they would ever get the right to know the laws and have more advantages. Patricians😄/Plebeians😢

Lauren G.

11/20/2015 01:53:40 pm

Daniel, I completely agree. If you think about it, if Julius never existed, then Gaul would still had been one of Rome's enemies. If Julius had never lead the army to Gaul, maybe a different general, they might had attacked and lost. Due to the way things were back before common era, Gaul would retaliate. This may had created some serious consequences including Rome being destroyed, the empire never forming and the downfall of one of the worlds greatest early civilizations.

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Isabelle Z.

11/29/2015 03:22:02 pm

Daniel, I definitely agree with you! Because, he pretty much seemed to save the plebeians as well. He pretty much brought peace to them. What a shame the Senate didn't think so. If they didn't kill Julius Rome would have improved because of the balance he brought to them.

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Mr. Kaciuba

11/30/2015 07:01:07 am

I disagree Dan. Yes Julius was a great general but there were other great generals. Someone would have eventually defeated Gaul. Rome was getting bigger and bigger as its many different legions were conquering all around the Med. Sea. All would not have been loss if JC didnt exist.

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Kiley D.

11/20/2015 02:02:14 pm

Daniel,you make a good point I can see why you think that

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Daniel O

11/20/2015 06:08:42 pm

Thank you Kiley and you made me come up with the idea so thank you Kiley

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Josie N.

11/20/2015 02:13:06 pm

I think that the Roman republic would have ended any way, because if Caesar became too powerful then it would be likely for any other person to do the same. I also believe this, because there are a lot of popular people in our world today who get so self centered and think of their selves higher than anyone else.

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Libby B.

11/24/2015 12:58:57 pm

I totally agree with you, Josie. Many people do want to claim power for themselves, so it would have just been a matter of time before the next 'Julius Caesar' came along and threatened the Senate's power. Great comment! :)

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Jenna H

11/29/2015 08:44:55 am

I also agree with you Josie because all people wanted was power so there would be another person who comes along to see people liked him so they would follow in his footsteps and do the same to want to rule.

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Lilianna C.

11/29/2015 10:51:27 am

I agree with you. There are people who don't think before they do so then they could do the same actions as Julius.

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Han N.

11/21/2015 07:57:24 am

I believe that if Julius Caesar never existed, then Rome's republic would still end, but just slower. For one, while Julius Caesar was away, the officials/ rich people (maybe even the dictator) were becoming corrupted and greedier.
Once Julius Caesar declared himself dictator for life, he made lots of great changes that benefited mainly the Plebeians...
...not the Patricians.
So on the Ides of March, 44 B.C, the Patricians decide to stab him 33 times in the chest.
After this happens, the citizens of Rome got angry, and what used to be the republic tumbled down a hill and exploded.
But... NOW, let's say that he never existed...
The republic would just end slowly without him.

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Libby B.

11/24/2015 01:18:49 pm

Sorry Claire and Kiley, but I disagree with you. I think that if Julius Caesar did not exist, the Roman Republic still would have ended. I do, however, agree with you Han. The Senate was becoming greedier and greedier while Caesar was leading wars. When he declared himself dictator for life, the Senate feared they lost their power, but they wouldn't admit that. They claimed they were saving the Republic as they killed Caesar. Caesar's death outraged the Plebeian's and this is said to have been the end of the Republic. If Julius Caesar did not exist, there would most likely have been another person who wanted power that the Plebeian's liked, which would intimidate the Senate. This would lead to the same ending as what happened previously in history, the Senate killing whomever they want, just to stay in power.

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Mohammad A.

11/25/2015 06:56:13 pm

Libby, I totally agree with your statement because all that anyone wanted was power so the Senate would have done that to anyone else.

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Mohammad A.

11/25/2015 06:40:54 pm

I think the Roman Republic would have ended if Julius Caesar didn't exist because there could have been other empires that arose and had a stronger army. Also the Plebeians could have left the Republic due to unfair treatment compared to the Patricians. This would result the Republic to have no army so they would get crushed by any other empire.

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zack c

12/4/2015 06:13:18 am

i aggre with that because it will have ended more early then it was if he was still alive.

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greg g

11/26/2015 07:58:00 pm

I think the roman republic would have ended with or without Cesar.
any way you see it, Rome was already falling apart. People were upset, and the government was being greedy. Rome was already doomed.

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greg g

11/26/2015 08:02:51 pm

I agree with Mohammad. Other empires could have gained power,and the plebeians were already upset, and poor. Rome would have fallen with caesar there or not.

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Isabella C

11/27/2015 08:43:24 am

I think the roman republic would have ended even if Julius Caesar didn't exist. There were other men that could have made themselves king.

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Han N.

11/28/2015 09:34:54 am

I partly agree on what you said, but I don't agree on where you said that "There were other men that could have made themselves king."
Rome was a republic at the time Julius Caesar was alive, and no-one could have made themselves king at that point because of Tarquin the Proud, and were still afraid that any other king would become selfish and corrupted.
Or maybe you were trying to say something about being dictator for life?

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By the way Isabella, I think you're commenting from the wrong class period. You're 4-5 A.

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Dylan H.

11/27/2015 05:47:22 pm

I believe that the Roman Republic would have still ended had Julius not existed. The Senate was already corrupt, Julius was just another victim of their corruption. So the republic was already doomed, In my opinion.

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Ellen L.

11/29/2015 09:29:27 am

I definitely agree with you. Although the senate does acquire power among the government, it seemed to turn them into greedy, malicious, control-freaks. This occurred after the Ides of March, 44 BC, the day of Caesar's death. After this day, Julius ceased to exist, and the empire fell. If Caesar never existed, the Roman empire quite possibly fallen the same way, maybe even sooner than it did if Caesar existed.

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Jenna H.

11/29/2015 08:48:50 am

I think the Roman Republic would have ended differently if Julius did not exist because he was a big part of the Romans decisons and made lots of changes in Rome.

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Jenna H.

11/29/2015 09:10:16 am

Also because of the plebeians would hate their life more because more years would be horrible with out Julius Caesar. He gave the plebs a lot more power than the pats gave them.

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zack c

12/4/2015 06:11:28 am

i aggre with that jenna because the poor will hate there life also like i said

Krista S.

11/30/2015 09:08:51 am

I completly agree because also who would have influenced the patricians to give the pleblebians more rights. Julius Ceasur gave all plebs. all they wanted. Thats why they loved him as a leader.

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Krista S.

11/30/2015 12:36:51 pm

I wonder why the patricians thought that they were saving the republic?

Krista S.

11/30/2015 12:44:36 pm

I think the roman republic would have fallen eather way . Julius ceaser would have to die sometime.

Delia B.

11/30/2015 03:41:00 pm

I totally agree with you. The Roman Empire would still have fallen, because you do not live forever.

Ellen L.

11/29/2015 09:23:44 am

I feel that, if Julius Caesar ceased to exist, the Roman Empire would have fallen, anyway. Without him, the empire itself might not have expanded so vastly due to conquering. When Caesar died on March 15, 44 BC, the Patricians figured they were helping to "save" the republic, but really, were causing it to hit rock bottom. They seemed to do it with a greedy point of view, thinking they would gain more power. My point is, after Caesar's murder, there was a war within the empire, if you will because Julius ceased to exist. So, if he never existed, the senate would become so powerful, the Plebeians would end up fighting against their decisions, thus, causing the empire to fall.

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lilianna C.

11/29/2015 10:45:18 am

I do think that the Roman Republic would have ended at some point because everything has an ending. Either there was a major civil war that would change everything, or a different dictator made himself dictator 4life and then do the same actions as Julius thus making the republic fall and end to its doom. The republic would end at some point even if Julius didn't exist in some way,

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Alisa P.

11/29/2015 02:50:58 pm

I think the Roman republic would have ended because the Plebians were getting sick of how they were treated anyway and they were planning to make equal rights and stepped off the battle field, so yes, the Roman Republic would have ended either way.

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Isabelle Z.

11/29/2015 03:18:18 pm

Yes, because he created peace with all of the poor plebians and made them happy because they were sick and tired of the patricians being so unfair. He just made them feel better.

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George L.

11/29/2015 03:48:36 pm

I also think that the Republic would have ended and agree with Ellen, Dylan, Jenna, and so on...

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George L.

11/29/2015 04:28:54 pm

I believe this because I would think there would probably be other people that love power and just want more and more. Also, I think the Patricians rules would outrage the Plebleians until they cant take it anymore. Another reason that Libby already pretty much stated that the Patricians will kill anyone that will threaten their power.

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Sean O.

11/29/2015 05:27:22 pm

Yes, I think the roman republic would end because they would not defeat the gulls. The gulls would invade and end the republic.

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Oscar B.

11/29/2015 05:32:08 pm

I think that the republic would have still ended if Julius Caesar did not exist. I think this because I think that somehow a civil war would start. I think this because the patricians wanted more power in everything. So over time the republic would end. Also I agree on everyone who said that the republic would end even if Julius Caesar did not exist.

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Johnathan D.

11/29/2015 06:53:38 pm

I agree with Oscar that somehow a civil war would of started.

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Johnathan D.

11/29/2015 06:52:02 pm

I think the Roman Republic would have ended if Julius Caesar did not exist because when they battled Gaul I think they would of lost against Gaul. Then the Republic would of ended after their defeat against Gaul.

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Tony K

11/29/2015 08:01:53 pm

I agree with Johnathan D. because Julias Cesur was also a great commander and I am 100% positive that Rome would have lost the war and tooken over by Gaul

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Tony K

11/29/2015 07:55:01 pm

I think that the Roman republic would have not ended. I think that because Julias Cesur made all the plablians happy by giveing them all new jobs that get paid more. That made the Patritians mad because they did not get paid as much. Wich lead to the death of Julias Cesur. When the patritians killed Cesur that made all the plablians mad because they lost all their jobs. And that made the patritians really poor again.

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Gabby O.

11/29/2015 08:38:12 pm

I do not think that the roman rebpiblic wouldve ended if Julius Caesar did not exist because there had to be AT LEAST one other person that could come into power that thought like him.

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Delia B.

11/30/2015 03:53:00 pm

It probably would not end because someone would eventually take charge as dictator. But since the Plebeians where much more pleased with Julius Caesar then the other Patricians rules and laws, it led to the poor being in more discomfort and safeness.

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zack c

12/4/2015 06:09:19 am

If ceaser died the replublic will change and the poor will die more faster. and if they dont die they will not have the rights to vote for people that cared about them . Also they will not get the land they will deserve

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Jenna H

12/12/2015 09:30:09 pm

I would of wanted to live in the republic.I would want this because this is when Julius ceaser was around.Knowing that I would most likely be a pleb I would want that because Julius gave lots of rights to plebeians. Plus on the empire they would of killed my favorite ruler so my life would not be very happy for a while.

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