Young men presidencies at the ward level will be discontinued. A bishopric is currently the presidency of the Aaronic Priesthood in the ward, which is the organization for young men in the church. Bishoprics will also have closer associationwith the young women of the church.

The youth changes reiterate President Nelson’s teachings that “(the bishop’s) first and foremost responsibility is to care for the young men and young women of his ward.”

A new “Young Women theme” was introduced to help all young women “gain unshakable faith in the Lord, Jesus Christ,” according to Sister Bonnie H. Cordon, Young Women general president. It puts the focus on each individual’s relationship as a daughter of heavenly parents and as a disciple of Jesus Christ. (See accompanying story).

Class structure changes for young women were announced. The names of Beehive, Mia Maid and Laurel as class descriptors will be discontinued and classes will be established by age and referred to simply as young women classes. Different age groups can be combined if there are few young women as there is great flexibility for wards (congregations) to meet the needs of young women around the world.

No matter how young women are organized into classes, each class will have a class presidency.

Melchizedek Priesthood quorums and Relief Societies, the adult organizations of the church, will have greater responsibility for missionary work, temple and family history work and in ministering to ward members under the direction of the bishop.

Relief Society presidents and Elders Quorum presidents may take a greater role in counseling adult members. Young Women presidents may take a greater role in counseling young women. A bishop maintains his role as a “common judge” on ecclesiastical matters and the organization leaders work under his direction.Church stakes (a stake is a group of congregations) will have Young Men presidencies. Young Men presidents will now be a part of the stake’s high council, a group of 12 advisers to the stake presidency. The Stake Sunday School president will also be a member of the high council.

The word “mutual” will be retired and replaced by simple references to Young Women activities, Aaronic Priesthood quorum activities, or youth activities that will be held weekly where possible.

The term “auxiliary” will also be retired in favor of a more generic term, organization.

So many changes, with names especially. "Home Teachers" and "Visiting Teachers" gone, replaced with "ministers." Boy Scouts were given the boot. No more Mutual? And now, Laurels, Mia Maids, and Beehives also gone?

So now they're "CHRISTIANS?"

How many MORMONS will be saying, "This isn't the church I knew?"

Edit: Did Nelson hire the same consulting firm that introduced "New Coke?"

pearlyeverlasting Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> The old men that should be spending time with> their families are instead going to bring the> mormon cult down with their arrogance.

Now is the days of their powers. They rule from The Great Salt Lake to Red Rocks of Dixie!

Instead of a ward having 3 Laurels, 1 Mia Maid, and Zero Beehives, they will have 5 "Young Women". Only one leader necessary.

Didn't they already do that with the boys, already? Like, no separate deacons, or priests, or high priests--they all consolidate with the Elders, or something like that? Only one elder's quorum president needed for the entire group.

No ward Sunday school superintendent needed, right? No ward young men's president? These positions will be on the stake level, one per stake, correct?

Yes, they are definitely creating fewer leadership positions to be filled, and are definitely accommodating for fewer active members, especially the youth. I'll bet there were hardly ever enough to fill one Scout troop per ward, and in our stake, not enough for a stake Scout troop, either.

Edit: Did Nelson hire the same consulting firm that introduced "New Coke?"--Caffeined.

I have been wondering the same thing, myself, and it's fun to have someone agree with me, Caffeined.

You are right. That is the problem. That along with the fact that the leaders are just SO fukin old and don't get how much harder it is for the kids now to pay 10% of their income and pop out more than one or two kids, than it was in their day. It was 70 years ago that they were young married and trying to get an education and start their families. It was even a lot easier for us 40 years ago.

That was when the cost of living compared to wages was so much less, even though wages were less. The GI Bill that WWII, Korean and Vietnam era vets went to school on was enough to pay tuition, and housing costs for a family. Financial aid for college was plentiful and easy to pay off after graduation. It was easier for women to stay at home with kids.

Not that way now. So the youth today want to know that if they are giving up that money, they really are getting something for it. The only thing the leaders are telling them that is the truth is that if they want to keep their testimonkeys, they'd better not look at the information at their fingertips that doesn't come from the "Ministry of Truth." So they're changing the focus to Christ Christ Christ. It's not the geezer brigade, it's not Mormon, Inc., it's not Joseph's Myth that is telling them what to do. It's Christ. You don't want to look at that stuff and offend Christ do you? They know once someone goes down the rabbit hole, they and their money are gone. Their desperation shows with every change.

Yes, the church is shrinking, and the leaders are scrambling to cover that up.

The missionary program is failing miserably, so the cult is having the members take on the role of missionaries. They need more new recruits! The missionaries and "ministers are also going to be responsible for keeping members from bolting, and for trying to bring ex-Mormons back into the fold. Good luck with that.

Maybe we are going to be the generation to enjoy watching the demise of the religious branch of LDS, Inc. (The business branch won't fail, unless LDS, Inc. loses its tax-exempt status.)

How does this fit with the emphasis on temples? Young women will still be programmed to marry in the temple (to an RM) because it’s the only way to have their forever family. The only way to get new Mormons is to make babies.

That will be a little tough without male Mormons, unless they bring polygamy back. Still, the church is a filter. The boys who go all in on Mormonism are exactly the kind of guys you don’t want to marry.

The church is led by brain dead morons. Their formula for growth is broken, so they double down. Amping up missionary efforts? Won’t work, too many people know about Mormonism. The name change will only fool an investigator for so long. Growth through reproduction depends on millennials who can’t find temple worthy husbands.

How are they going to distinguish. I thought they got rid of "mutual" a long time ago. The younger kids have never heard of it.

So the girls will be the 12 year olds, the 13 year olds, etc., or they'll just be the girls, and the bishopric will be more involved in the girls' lives? HUH? Are you kidding? They were plenty involved when I was a kid. Are they not now? We didn't have just yearly interviews. We had 6 month interviews with one of the counselors. Those interviews were much better. No sex questions from the counselors (well, at least the ones I remember).

It will just be confusing and people will use the same names so as not to have to explain every time they state something or not as my daughter is hell bent on calling them ministers.

They need to put the fun back in if they want to keep the youth active. YMCA membership costs less than tithing and has a pool lol. My tbm cousin who leaves near me is not happy about the church stopping the scout program. She is a homeschooling mom of 7 and she misses the churches social aspect the monthly Relief Society activities and so on.

subeamnotlogedin Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> They need to put the fun back in if they want to> keep the youth active. YMCA membership costs less> than tithing and has a pool lol.

The youth programs don't seem to be going well. A couple weekends ago my daughter's school took a weekend field trip. On the bus was a conversation between three or four seminary-going students and one non-mormon and one atheist. The non-mormon explained the essential point of her religion and asked the Mormon kids the essential point of theirs. They didn't know. They ended up arguing over whether the statements they made were rules promoted by God, Jesus, or Joseph Smith. They went around and around talking about the pre-existence, that earthly life was a test--they couldn't answer to the objection that "it's a test" makes God a cruel prankster--and other confusing and convoluted tales. Conversations like this, with the objects of missionarying asking curious, good-faith questions, will wake up the critical thinking skills of the youth enough for them to wonder why none of their explanations of anything make any sense.

One student confessed to my daughter that he goes to seminary every day but he's got no idea what they're talking about. Another seminary-going student told my daughter that the first kid's the most active Mormon anyone knows. This kind of circling confusion is nowhere near sustainable and is nothing like the seminary students of my school days.