This would be a good time for Papi to go out. I'd hate to see it because I think he has some more in the tank, but it's getting there rather quickly now. Players don't last forever. On the other hand only a fool would critize him when he does tail off. it's going to happen.

Mr MOOn, There is more than enough evidence on this board that indicates that I have given PAPI his due many times............ Now, perhaps you can concur to that !!!!

Respectfully, no you haven't. Almost anytime you show a little praise towards Papi, it is about one game or event, and you quickly follow it with a warning that his "heal may not hold up", or "anyday the injury could happen", or "if he could only do this versus good pitching" type nonsense.

You still do not believe Papi is for real. You still think his heal is about to end his career at any moment. You still wish "the next Carlton Fisk" is our DH for 2014. You have no faith in Papi. You are waiting for that moment he actually does decline or get hurt, and we will then see so many "I told you so's" it will make even softy's head spin.

Spare me, please .......... This demonizing is right out of the DEM-PLAYBOOK !!!! Enough...... I am down & can't get up !!! What ever happened to the "right of OPINION " ????

I haven't beenhere much for a couple of days and I see Bill is still at it, still dragging politics onto the sports board in his last two consecutive posts.

If you want to talk politics go to the politics board but if you continue to what you're doing you will NEVER have any credibility here.

Bill owes the board an apology for trolling on Papi most of the season - it's that simple. Make the apology and everyone can move on.

Of course he won't but we move on anyway.

Bill, the "right of opinion" doesn't actually exist. But for the record it wasn't your opinion on Papi that bothered me and others, it was your relentless trolling of that opinion.

Clearly you were totally wrong in your trolling on Papi and a simple "I'm sorry" gets the job done just fine.

No need to bring politics into it, but if you want to do that, be careful, the right is expert at demonizing others just as you continue to demonize our president... the stench of your hypocrisy is amazing.

It's like softy saying he was Papi's biggest supporter right before calling him a "punch and judy hitter" with the same "bat speed as Iggy".

(Let's not forget that softy also wanted Papi to fake an injury back in 2010, so he could be sent to AAA on a "rehab" assignment, while most of us just wanted him moved to the 5 or 6 slot in the line-up.)

Bill owes the board an apology for trolling on Papi most of the season - it's that simple. Make the apology and everyone can move on.

Of course he won't but we move on anyway.

Bill, the "right of opinion" doesn't actually exist. But for the record it wasn't your opinion on Papi that bothered me and others, it was your relentless trolling of that opinion.

Clearly you were totally wrong in your trolling on Papi and a simple "I'm sorry" gets the job done just fine.

No need to bring politics into it, but if you want to do that, be careful, the right is expert at demonizing others just as you continue to demonize our president... the stench of your hypocrisy is amazing.

Really, so, how many times do you want me to say that BILL-806 was WRONG ???????? 2013 is in the books, the #'$ speak volumes..... Papi & the entire team had a MAGICAL run, it can be said that it took the "MOON & THE STARS" to come together with haert, desire, determination and a blend of skill & luck...... Heck, PAPI by all accounts came so far from not being on the field at all in spring training, to missing the first 7+- games, to being "ALL WORLD AGAIN" !!!! As that famous SEC. OF STATE WOULD SAY ........ "WHAT MORE CAN I DO/SAY" ??????

It would be nice to see softy and jackbu take responsibility for their Ortiz rants

jackbu/the4040club needs to get a set instead of pretending he's been an Ortiz fan

+1000

john...errr, jack, Comes here and tells people "your cage gets rattled too easily" to make the little troll feel like hes doing his job. problem is, Im way too comfortable in life and with myself to let a career forum troll rattle anything about me. Its cute that he thinks hes able to "rattle my cage" though. hey, if it makes the little giuy feel better about himself, Im secure enough to let him think hes doing that to me.

It would be nice to see softy and jackbu take responsibility for their Ortiz rants

jackbu/the4040club needs to get a set instead of pretending he's been an Ortiz fan

+1000

john...errr, jack, Comes here and tells people "your cage gets rattled too easily" to make the little troll feel like hes doing his job. problem is, Im way too comfortable in life and with myself to let a career forum troll rattle anything about me. Its cute that he thinks hes able to "rattle my cage" though. hey, if it makes the little giuy feel better about himself, Im secure enough to let him think hes doing that to me.

It would be nice to see softy and jackbu take responsibility for their Ortiz rants

jackbu/the4040club needs to get a set instead of pretending he's been an Ortiz fan

+1000

john...errr, jack, Comes here and tells people "your cage gets rattled too easily" to make the little troll feel like hes doing his job. problem is, Im way too comfortable in life and with myself to let a career forum troll rattle anything about me. Its cute that he thinks hes able to "rattle my cage" though. hey, if it makes the little giuy feel better about himself, Im secure enough to let him think hes doing that to me.

By the way, Is there a reason I cant see his posts anymore?

I'd say it's your lucky day!

Hey 4B!If hes been banned for something again, Id say it was the forums lucky day.

It would be nice to see softy and jackbu take responsibility for their Ortiz rants

jackbu/the4040club needs to get a set instead of pretending he's been an Ortiz fan

+1000

john...errr, jack, Comes here and tells people "your cage gets rattled too easily" to make the little troll feel like hes doing his job. problem is, Im way too comfortable in life and with myself to let a career forum troll rattle anything about me. Its cute that he thinks hes able to "rattle my cage" though. hey, if it makes the little giuy feel better about himself, Im secure enough to let him think hes doing that to me.

By the way, Is there a reason I cant see his posts anymore?

I'd say it's your lucky day!

Hey 4B!If hes been banned for something again, Id say it was the forums lucky day.