I know "wait til next year's QB class" is basically a meme at this point, but people really overhyped the shit out of these dudes. Darold was wrongly anointed after a bowl game and Josh Allen looks absolutely awful.

I know "wait til next year's QB class" is basically a meme at this point, but people really overhyped the shit out of these dudes. Darold was wrongly anointed after a bowl game and Josh Allen looks absolutely awful.

Any semi-prolific QB in college that doesn't rely on the read-option to be effective is over-hyped by draft experts. Just wish the NFL would have a massive meeting of the minds and agree to ditch the pro-style offenses as soon as Brady retires.

Disagree completely. Tossing 20 touchdowns on a 4-win PAC 12 team isn’t all that impressive. He’ll go top 10 but only because of the lack of legit QB prospects. A team would be nuts to trade up for him.

Disagree completely. Tossing 20 touchdowns on a 4-win PAC 12 team isn’t all that impressive. He’ll go top 10 but only because of the lack of legit QB prospects. A team would be nuts to trade up for him.

On the contrary, he has better tools to fit the pro scheme better than anyone in the draft. The only one who could give him a run for his money at the top QB taken is Lamar Jackson.

On the contrary, he has better tools to fit the pro scheme better than anyone in the draft. The only one who could give him a run for his money at the top QB taken is Lamar Jackson.

I’ve made this point in other threads. Any QB that doesn’t rely on mobility is vastly overrated coming into the draft. There’s dozens of current NFL QBs who ran pro style in college, won 4-6 games per year, and simply aren’t very good. I’d rather take a later round flyer on Lamar Jackson. I actually think Jackson is a better pocket passer than most give him credit for.

Kevin Zeitler and Joel Bitonio are fucking monsters in the run game. JC Tretter is a solid run blocking center, and Joe Thomas is Joe Thomas.

Saquon Barkley needs to be the #1 pick in this draft, and it's not even close. 233lbs and ran a 4.40 40?!

•He's about 10lbs heavier than Zeke who ran a 4.47

•He's about 5lbs lighter than Fournette who ran a 4.51

I mean AP ran a 4.41 back when he was 215lbs...

Take Barkley #1, and take your quarterback at #4. It was shown in Dallas that Dak struggled a lot more when Zeke wasn't playing, because if the teams are playing the run its easier for the QB. And nobody is scared of Isaiah Crowell in the backfield...

How much longer can the Browns continue putting off drafting their QB?

If the plan is to get their guy at #4, there's a good chance that two QBs will be off the board by then. They've been burned countless times in the past by settling for a QB later on instead of taking what should have been their franchise guy.

Barkley very well could be a generational talent, but he's also a running back in a historically loaded running back class. If the Browns truly feel like Rosen or Darnold are special talents, I don't think they can afford to roll the dice again by passing on them.