Comments on Same-Sex Marriage Foes in California Ready to Submit PetitionsTypePad2008-04-22T15:47:47ZAndy Towlehttp://www.towleroad.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:http://www.towleroad.com/2008/04/same-sex-marria/comments/atom.xml/Mr. Rogers commented on 'Same-Sex Marriage Foes in California Ready to Submit Petitions'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef00e551f4128188332008-04-22T18:59:34Z2008-04-22T18:59:34ZMr. RogersI hope each and every person who signed this amendment makes it onto the below website: http://www.knowthyneighbor.org/<p>I hope each and every person who signed this amendment makes it onto the below website:</p>
<p>http://www.knowthyneighbor.org/</p>Zeke commented on 'Same-Sex Marriage Foes in California Ready to Submit Petitions'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef00e551f40c9d88332008-04-22T18:52:59Z2008-04-22T18:52:59ZZekeIt seems to me that any petition that has a high number of forged signatures should be voided post haste;...<p>It seems to me that any petition that has a high number of forged signatures should be voided post haste; not just the forged signature but the entire initiative.</p>
<p>Time and time again we see these paid signature gatherers conning people into signing their petitions or outright forging signatures. There has to be a way to stop this fraud. It will never stop until we start holding the initiative sponsors, and the fates of the initiatives themselves, responsible for the fraud carried out in their name.</p>
<p>I am really afraid that this initiative will make the ballot, the Supreme Court will strike down Prop. 22 and possibly call for marriage equality outright and the ensuing backlash will peak right about November. As usual, everything seems to be timed perfectly for the benefit of our opponents. I personally don&#39;t think that that is a coincidence.</p>mwf commented on 'Same-Sex Marriage Foes in California Ready to Submit Petitions'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef00e551f407d188332008-04-22T18:46:55Z2008-04-22T18:46:55ZmwfI think a constitutional amendment to ban divorce is the ONLY way to save marriage. And what about the children?...<p>I think a constitutional amendment to ban divorce is the ONLY way to save marriage.</p>
<p>And what about the children? Having mommy and daddy schlep kids from one parent to another is not good for their well-being.</p>
<p>You ARE for the children, aren&#39;t you?</p>Matt in California commented on 'Same-Sex Marriage Foes in California Ready to Submit Petitions'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef00e5520ab3a588342008-04-22T18:13:35Z2008-04-22T18:13:35ZMatt in Californiahttp://www.inlandutopia.comI think we need a petition verification system. Find out who signed a particular initiative. If you were conned in...<p>I think we need a petition verification system. Find out who signed a particular initiative. </p>
<p>If you were conned in signing the initiative, or someone forged your details from a particular initiative then you could immediately redact your signature. </p>
<p>Its great that we are better organized than 2000&#39;s Proposition 22, but we are not as mobilized as we could be. </p>
<p>If we want to win in November, WE MUST go towards the swing communities not just the gay friendly or the redneck communities. </p>ted commented on 'Same-Sex Marriage Foes in California Ready to Submit Petitions'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef00e5520ab03388342008-04-22T18:05:41Z2008-04-22T18:05:41Ztedhttp://bible.gideonse.comI, too, was one of the volunteers here in California trying to stop the initiative. I've totally wrecked today. We...<p>I, too, was one of the volunteers here in California trying to stop the initiative. I&#39;ve totally wrecked today. We worked so hard. </p>
<p>Focus on the Family threw hundreds of thousands of dollars at paid signature gatherers who were relentless -- they actually told people in Hillcrest in San Diego that they were collecting signature for a PRO-gay marriage initiative. It&#39;s disgusting what happened here. </p>
<p>Even worse is how unaware so many in the LGBT community were. I would talk to gay men in 20-year relationships and they hadn&#39;t even heard this was going on. And this is California.</p>
<p>If gay marriage survives here, it will much more likely happen in the other undecided states. Please, tell your friends in California to get involved any way they can.</p>ggreen commented on 'Same-Sex Marriage Foes in California Ready to Submit Petitions'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef00e551f3d6d688332008-04-22T17:32:32Z2008-04-22T17:32:32ZggreenIf the folks really want to disqualify this initiative question the validity of the 1.1 million signatures. That is an...<p>If the folks really want to disqualify this initiative question the validity of the 1.1 million signatures. That is an unbelievably high number of valid signatures for any California initiative. People that were PAID for every signature they got most likely gathered these signatures. That should prove that many are likely invalid.</p>Disgusted american commented on 'Same-Sex Marriage Foes in California Ready to Submit Petitions'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef00e5520a96a688342008-04-22T17:26:00Z2008-04-22T17:26:00ZDisgusted americanWell I for one...thought of a GREAT way to FUCK up thier Sanctity of Marriage....Have Gays and Lesbians Marry each...<p>Well I for one...thought of a GREAT way to FUCK up thier Sanctity of Marriage....Have Gays and Lesbians Marry each other/and then get annulled - Over,and Over and over and over again....just to trash thier Sanctity...keep doing it...Over and Over and over....Get Publicity about it etc....then what will they do..? Prevent Gays/lesbians from marrying each other? Hmmmmmm - because to them..it would seem we&#39;re making a Mockery of thier Marriages...WHICH WE WOULD BE! FUCK&#39;M!</p>Peter commented on 'Same-Sex Marriage Foes in California Ready to Submit Petitions'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef00e5520a871488342008-04-22T17:08:06Z2008-04-22T17:08:06ZPeterI was one of the volunteers who took part in the efforts to persuade voters not to sign the petitions...<p>I was one of the volunteers who took part in the efforts to persuade voters not to sign the petitions for this initiative. Needless to say, this news does not make me jump for joy. But after the disappointment cloud passes, I&#39;m just going to get back into the fight against this political hate piece.</p>Mark commented on 'Same-Sex Marriage Foes in California Ready to Submit Petitions'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef00e5520a6be288342008-04-22T16:33:24Z2008-04-22T16:33:24ZMarkDoug: Maybe Mike likes to whine on the web. That's what comments sections were made for. You have no idea...<p>Doug: Maybe Mike likes to whine on the web. That&#39;s what comments sections were made for. You have no idea what meaningful political activities he&#39;s involved in. So, rather than pointlessly rain on his parade, why don&#39;t you just take your own advice and be productive elsewhere?</p>Adam commented on 'Same-Sex Marriage Foes in California Ready to Submit Petitions'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef00e5520a692188342008-04-22T16:29:57Z2008-04-22T16:29:57ZAdamThere's no way voters won't approve this.<p>There&#39;s no way voters won&#39;t approve this. </p>Matt in California commented on 'Same-Sex Marriage Foes in California Ready to Submit Petitions'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef00e5520a677088342008-04-22T16:27:34Z2008-04-22T16:27:35ZMatt in Californiahttp://www.inlandutopia.comI had a good idea. Force covenant marriages on straight couples, demonstrate absurdity by being absurd. Its all about protecting...<p>I had a good idea. Force covenant marriages on straight couples, demonstrate absurdity by being absurd. Its all about protecting marriage. </p>
<p>If straight California bans same sex marriage, lets make their lives more miserable, and use their words to protect marriage the honest way. Covenant marriage. </p>Mike commented on 'Same-Sex Marriage Foes in California Ready to Submit Petitions'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef00e551f3be9688332008-04-22T16:17:52Z2008-04-22T16:17:52ZMikeWhatever.<p>Whatever. </p>Mike commented on 'Same-Sex Marriage Foes in California Ready to Submit Petitions'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef00e551f3b6c688332008-04-22T16:00:53Z2008-04-22T16:00:53ZMikeActually, this is one of two amendments... the second one (which may or may not qualify) goes further and targets...<p>Actually, this is one of two amendments... the second one (which may or may not qualify) goes further and targets domestic partnerships. I just don&#39;t understand who votes for this crap. Everyone I&#39;ve spoken to thinks it is stupid and a waste of time. How can you be so insane as to want to limit individual rights in a constitution. They obviously don&#39;t realize that tomorrow the target may be them. Idiots! I just hope we Californian&#39;s get our act together and soundly defeat this at the ballot box. We need to send a clear message to the rest of the nation that we aren&#39;t going to stand for intolerance. Let the gloves come off!</p>