... As far as I can tell, the "Video Provider" selection is no longer available in the current software. I don't think it was actually functional in the older software, and I'm guessing that wasn't implemented for release. You can turn off Amazon, Netflix, etc content in search, but it still shows up through the Browse TV category selections. ...

Thanks for checking. The search result screen is a deal breaker for me as I am not interested in all of the results that TiVo returns. It just makes the search results harder to read - again, IMO. It should be selectable by service.

Speed, and search results, have combined to make me pass on the current implementation.

Does the "video preview" in the guide still have the option to disable it?

EDIT: For clarity (on my end ): When the "Guide" button is pressed, you currently get the classic guide that will be eventually upgraded to an HD version. Correct? If yes, does this this guide show only TV results?

Thanks for checking. The search result screen is a deal breaker for me as I am not interested in all of the results that TiVo returns. It just makes the search results harder to read - again, IMO. It should be selectable by service.

Just to reiterate, the TiVo Search results are customizable. Mine is set to TV-only right now.

EDIT: For clarity (on my end ): When the "Guide" button is pressed, you currently get the classic guide that will be eventually upgraded to an HD version. Correct? If yes, does this this guide show only TV results?

Yes and yes. There are no changes to the EPG in the initial HDUI release. TiVo says that is in the works for future software update.

Thanks for checking. The search result screen is a deal breaker for me as I am not interested in all of the results that TiVo returns. It just makes the search results harder to read - again, IMO. It should be selectable by service.

I wanted to correct my previous post.

The Video Provider setting is still there under Channel Settings. For some reason, I didn't see it before. A software update also reset the provider settings to the defaults.

If you change the Video Provider settings to "none" do the search results speed up - excluding graphics in the advertising bar at the top of the screen?

The bar at the top of the screen (no ads in it) always loads images. The video provider settings simply change what images you get. Images are only displayed for programs you can actually receive (per your video provider settings and channel lineup). In search, the images displayed at the top are for programs similar to the one selected.

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Can you select results, from a search, before the graphics load?

Yes. It's not like the current HME beta search on existing TiVos where the remote is often unresponsive while images load. With the Premiere, the remote is responsive before and during image load, and you can navigate to another screen before they load.

The search functionality is actually quite a bit different than the TiVo Search on the TiVo HD and Series3. I suspect TiVo Search on existing boxes was based on a very early version of what the Premiere offers.

As an aside: I have seen that there are no product ads in it yet, but I think it's fair to assume that there will be. Additionally, I believe that the "suggestions" will not only be made up of popular choices... paid "suggestions' will have better placement in the bar. I figure it was designed to be a money maker for TiVo, so that's why I call it an "Advertising Bar"

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The video provider settings simply change what images you get. Images are only displayed for programs you can actually receive (per your video provider settings and channel lineup). In search, the images displayed at the top are for programs similar to the one selected.

Okay. This makes sense, but one more question: If I subscribe to Netflix, can I still disable the bar from showing Nexflix results?

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Originally Posted by bkdtv

Yes. It's not like the current HME beta search on existing TiVos where the remote is often unresponsive while images load. With the Premiere, the remote is responsive before and during image load, and you can navigate to another screen before they load.

This is good news. If I decide to buy a new box, but unfortunately, it will kill the visual "experience" of the new interface, as it will probably never load before I have selected, and moved on to my next choice.

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Originally Posted by bkdtv

The search functionality is actually quite a bit different than the TiVo Search on the TiVo HD and Series3. I suspect TiVo Search on existing boxes was based on a very early version of what the Premiere offers.

Can the "Live Preview" in the upper right corner of search and / or the guide, be disabled.

That's answered in the first post. You toggle the "live preview" on and off by pressing the SLO MO button (will re-enable automatically after a period of inactivity) or you can disable it permanently through settings.

It is my intention to post videos showing all of these features in the next week.

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Originally Posted by DCIFRTHS

As an aside: I have seen that there are no product ads in it yet, but I think it's fair to assume that there will be. Additionally, I believe that the "suggestions" will not only be made up of popular choices... paid "suggestions' will have better placement in the bar. I figure it was designed to be a money maker for TiVo, so that's why I call it an "Advertising Bar"

TiVo suggested to some reviewers that one spot might be used for advertising. Through Settings -> Improve Discovery Bar Recommendations, the user can customize the type of recommendations displayed, including more or less of: what's new, what's popular, TV, movies, sports, only rent or buy, suggestions, and partner recommendations.

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Okay. This makes sense, but one more question: If I subscribe to Netflix, can I still disable the bar from showing Nexflix results?

The only way to completely eliminate Netflix results from the Discovery Bar is to uncheck Netflix under Channels -> Video Provider List. However, if you do that, Netflix results won't appear in Search or the Browse TV selections. The Netflix queue folder is available regardless.

As the owner of a couple of MoCA linked Tivo HD units, I'd really like to know if switching ONE of them to a Premiere would improve my MRV transfer speeds. From the posts I've seen so far it sounds like the answer is that HD to Premiere transfers would NOT be any faster, but Premiere to HD transfers *might* be. bkdtv has suggested that these would be not suprisingly limited by the HD transfer rates, meaning 16-29Mbps according to his testing. Since I *often* have issues transferring HD shows (probably ~15Mbps or so in most cases on Comcast) from one box to the other at rate, I'm guessing I'm getting that 16Mbps rate more often than not. So the question still is... what will a real user experience here? I'd really like the transfers to be enough faster than real time that I can relatively quickly skip a two minute block of commercials, meaning I really want something approaching 30Mbps...

I am very, VERY disappointed with the specs/features of the Premiere. Of the 5 primary things I have wanted/needed and have been waiting for, it fails to address four of them:

1) It still has no way to save preferences, settings, stations, season passes, etc to an external flash device so they are not lost if you have to repair/replace your TiVo or upgrade to a new model.

2) It has no support for SDV.

3) Menus are not faster (yet, anyway)

4) Still no native support for streaming additional video formats without re-encoding (like h264+AC3+avi)

The only advantage (for me) it would have over my TiVo HD is faster networking. I have been using TiVo's forever (series 1, 2, DircTiVo HD, TiVo-HD) and the future does not look bright to me now.

I suppose they could add 3 of the 4 items, above, through software updates... but I have been waiting and waiting and waiting for TiVo to fix the "group is empty" bug in the HD that annoys me every day. There have never been a solution, so I don't have great confidence in "updates" right now.

I have been waiting and waiting and waiting for TiVo to fix the "group is empty" bug in the HD that annoys me every day. There have never been a solution, so I don't have great confidence in "updates" right now.

You make some good points about failings in the Premiere. But you're complaining about the "group is empty" bug? Really?

If you search my postings you'll see that I frequently complain about a myriad of bugs with the boxes and with how TiVo doesn't respond to them in a timely fashion (if ever). But your last bug is just too insignificant, even for a nit-picker like me. I think "TiVo has bigger fish to fry."

You make some good points about failings in the Premiere. But you're complaining about the "group is empty" bug? Really?

If you search my postings you'll see that I frequently complain about a myriad of bugs with the boxes and with how TiVo doesn't respond to them in a timely fashion (if ever). But your last bug is just too insignificant, even for a nit-picker like me. I think "TiVo has bigger fish to fry."

I am very, VERY disappointed with the specs/features of the Premiere. Of the 5 primary things I have wanted/needed and have been waiting for, it fails to address four of them:

1) It still has no way to save preferences, settings, stations, season passes, etc to an external flash device so they are not lost if you have to repair/replace your TiVo or upgrade to a new model.

2) It has no support for SDV.

3) Menus are not faster (yet, anyway)

4) Still no native support for streaming additional video formats without re-encoding (like h264+AC3+avi)

The only advantage (for me) it would have over my TiVo HD is faster networking. I have been using TiVo's forever (series 1, 2, DircTiVo HD, TiVo-HD) and the future does not look bright to me now.

I suppose they could add 3 of the 4 items, above, through software updates... but I have been waiting and waiting and waiting for TiVo to fix the "group is empty" bug in the HD that annoys me every day. There have never been a solution, so I don't have great confidence in "updates" right now.

All my Premieres are noticeably faster than my S3/TiVoHD units. So cross number three off.

You make some good points about failings in the Premiere. But you're complaining about the "group is empty" bug? Really?

If you search my postings you'll see that I frequently complain about a myriad of bugs with the boxes and with how TiVo doesn't respond to them in a timely fashion (if ever). But your last bug is just too insignificant, even for a nit-picker like me. I think "TiVo has bigger fish to fry."

OK, I agree with what you are saying. There are more important/serious bugs. But the "empty group" one annoys me EVERY SINGLE DAY. The other bugs (for me at least) are much less frequent (like screwed up video when transitioning to/from video/menus, and the cable card lockout message- those are the other two that seem fairly regular).

I mean, seriously, TiVo can't fix HD bugs that have been around for YEARS, but will put out a new, incomplete, and feature-lacking box and claim they will upgrade its software? I guess all us HD owners can now kiss all hope of OUR bugs being fixed.

I am absolutely BLOWN AWAY that they still have no way to save *hours* worth of settings. That, alone, is enough to make me not want to upgrade! Even my CELL PHONE allows me to save my settings to a card. It is 2010, and they expect us to write everything down on paper and reenter everything and still lose all our ratings forever

You go into a group (like suggestions) and start deleting some stuff. Poof! "This group is empty and no longer needed" and you get booted to the menu above, then have to go back into the group yet again. Sometimes I have to go through that two or three times A DAY.

You go into a group (like suggestions) and start deleting some stuff. Poof! "This group is empty and no longer needed" and you get booted to the menu above, then have to go back into the group yet again. Sometimes I have to go through that two or three times A DAY.

Yep, another candidate for multi-processing. Let the UI chew on X number of deletes with one core while the second core works on more deletes the user requests, or keep one core maintaining the presentable UI while the second core works on deletes.

You go into a group (like suggestions) and start deleting some stuff. Poof! "This group is empty and no longer needed" and you get booted to the menu above, then have to go back into the group yet again. Sometimes I have to go through that two or three times A DAY.

I've never had that happen. I have deleted items and it appears that they are all gone, but after a few seconds the rest pop back up. But it's never kicked me out of that screen unless I hit left to exit out by mistake without waiting.

OK, I agree with what you are saying. There are more important/serious bugs. But the "empty group" one annoys me EVERY SINGLE DAY. The other bugs (for me at least) are much less frequent (like screwed up video when transitioning to/from video/menus, and the cable card lockout message- those are the other two that seem fairly regular).

I mean, seriously, TiVo can't fix HD bugs that have been around for YEARS, but will put out a new, incomplete, and feature-lacking box and claim they will upgrade its software? I guess all us HD owners can now kiss all hope of OUR bugs being fixed.

I am absolutely BLOWN AWAY that they still have no way to save *hours* worth of settings. That, alone, is enough to make me not want to upgrade! Even my CELL PHONE allows me to save my settings to a card. It is 2010, and they expect us to write everything down on paper and reenter everything

Why would you spend all that time writing it down when you can take a few pics and have them printed out in a fraction of the time?

It's much easier and faster to take a picture and print it out then to write everything down.

You go into a group (like suggestions) and start deleting some stuff. Poof! "This group is empty and no longer needed" and you get booted to the menu above, then have to go back into the group yet again. Sometimes I have to go through that two or three times A DAY.

But I have experienced this:

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...I have deleted items and it appears that they are all gone, but after a few seconds the rest pop back up. But it's never kicked me out of that screen unless I hit left to exit out by mistake without waiting.

Is there any reason you know that the HDUI doesn't display letterboxed on a SD set instead of the way it does now? I would love to play with the new ui but no HD set yet. I guess I just don't get why it does't display like all other HD content .

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Is there any reason you know that the HDUI doesn't display letterboxed on a SD set instead of the way it does now? I would love to play with the new ui but no HD set yet. I guess I just don't get why it does't display like all other HD content .

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