I drilled the sp/orth loop jab to counter cross for 15 minutes at the end of class tonight and used it in sparring a few times. It seemed good (I mean, it landed & solidly countered what it was supposed to counter), but each time I was wondering if I was about to get my head round kicked off as we throw quite a lot, especially following 1-2s.

Edit: Thinking about it in retrospect, I guess if you land the stiff jab almost at the same time as their cross should've landed you'll stop some of those round kicks preemptively. It's still nervewracking though. :p

You did, by saying keep your hand up for round kick or overhand. I just didn't think much about it until I actually tried it out and felt where my face was.

I'm fairly long-limbed so the end of my jab is a good distance for most equal-height people to headkick me. If I were stockier I might be crowding the kick more. Either way I didn't get kicked in the head tonight, well, not because of this move anyways...

No counter is perfect, you are going to be open to something when you throw a punch. That said, this one works well (the southpaw variation) and i like how Omega addressed the followup left kick.. thats my favorite combination.

"Boxing is the art of hitting an opponent from the furthest distance away, exposing the least amount of your body while getting into position to punch with maximum leverage and not getting hit."
Kenny Weldon

You haha No disrespect or anything. It's just when I think "Omega" I think of a bearded dude with battle scars or something.

He does have battle scars.

Originally Posted by maofas

I drilled the sp/orth loop jab to counter cross for 15 minutes at the end of class tonight and used it in sparring a few times. It seemed good (I mean, it landed & solidly countered what it was supposed to counter), but each time I was wondering if I was about to get my head round kicked off as we throw quite a lot, especially following 1-2s.

Edit: Thinking about it in retrospect, I guess if you land the stiff jab almost at the same time as their cross should've landed you'll stop some of those round kicks preemptively. It's still nervewracking though. :p

Counters leave you open, just like attacking someone. Also, I've never been hit with a roundhouse while using this. And I use it repeatedly all the time to counter jabs and follow up with a side kick or an overhand left. (Southpaw)