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In colloquial usage, "taking the piss" is also used to refer to someone or something that makes a claim which is not in line with a recognised agreement e.g. an invoice that is double the quoted price with no explanation for the added charge could be said to "take the piss".

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He seems to have invaded every forum hijacking other people's (often naive and misplaced) ideas and presenting them as examples of his lead-out theories. The sad thing is some people are investing time and money in schemes that have no hope of leading (pun intended) anywhere.

I posted a paper on one of the TPU threadshttp://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1591.50that deals with rotating magnets in the Earth's scalar magnetic potential where the possibility exists to obtain thrust. Needs very high rotation speeds. Might explain the Searl effect.

Obtaining thrust from the mass of the magnet where it is accelerated on one side of its rotation and decelerated on the other side is a nonsense. What is not taken into account is the reaction on the electromagnets that are doing the accelerating and decelerating. When that is taken into account it exactly cancels the unbalanced centrifugal forces that occur on the magnet's mass and which is the source of the supposed thrust.

In colloquial usage, "taking the piss" is also used to refer to someone or something that makes a claim which is not in line with a recognised agreement e.g. an invoice that is double the quoted price with no explanation for the added charge could be said to "take the piss".

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It is quite amusing in this case as ION has used it in multiple ways! Grin

It has become clear to my insane mind that LT has lightly coded his work to keep the MIB's from getting to him, so he used the words "lead-out" in an un-obvious way that we did not take literally, but should have.

Uh oh, now I have let the cat out of the bag, and feel like the fumbling husband of the queen in "Blackadders Christmas", who prematurely spilled the beans and took the surprise out of his intended Christmas presents to his "Lovey" .

Oh My, duck and cover.

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Just because it has a patent application or is patented does not always mean it really works.

It has become clear to my insane mind that LT has lightly coded his work to keep the MIB's from getting to him, so he used the words "lead-out" in an un-obvious way that we did not take literally, but should have.

It was a very subtle technique, I had not made the association until you pointed it out. Get the lead out!

Maybe a lead filled piston in a hhop gen 3 would work.. hmm.. lead is really heavy and dense and I need that property as weight.. and maybe i could pump the lead out like a sump plug and pop it.. and the lead is out! hmm.. the lead is now out but i gotta get it back in for the next cycle, maybe a lead magnet would pick it up again, dunno

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Events taking place before the epoch can be dated by counting negatively from the epoch, though in pragmatic periodization practice, epochs are defined for the past, and another epoch is used to start the next era, therefore serving as the ending of the older preceding era. The whole purpose and criteria of such definitions are to clarify and co-ordinate scholarship about a period, at times, across disciplines.

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This is a ridiculous claim, with no supporting evidence at all.. please retract it, or I will pass it over to the moderators for a decision.

You have 24 hours to comply Lawrence!

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This is a ridiculous claim, with no supporting evidence at all.. please retract it, or I will pass it over to the moderators for a decision.

You have 24 hours to comply Lawrence!

The comments after our presentation on March 14 include:

1. The Input Energy to the Milkovic two stage pendulum is to keep the pendulum swinging like any other pendulum system. It is used to overcome friction and air resistance. A pendulum can be 99% efficient. *** most devices do not have such efficiency when energy is transformed from one type to another...

2. The up and down motion of the seesaw or lever system is created from the varying centrifugal force of the pendulum. It is free. Note that the highest position of the pendulum is hardly affected even though the weight is lifted twice. *** Please watch the Raymond Head Video 6 again carefully. The seesaw motion is FREE. It comes about because of the varying centrifugal force of the pendulum on the pivot...

3. This free energy is considered as the lead-out gravitational energy. It can cause the hammer-like weight to do work. *** The FREE seesaw motion can do work - produce sound and crash nuts... Energy must come from somewhere. That somewhere is the lead-out gravitational energy...

If gravitational energy can be lead-out or brought-in, magnetic or electromagnetic energy must be able to be brought-in.

The Milkovic Two Stage Pendulum has been around for many years. We were aware of it since early 2000. However we did not come up with this presentation until March 2016. *** In one of the early, badly constructed, Milkovic 2SO, there was much shaking. The pendulum did not go back to its initial position after raising the hammer. Raymond Head did a good job...

1. The Input Energy to the Milkovic two stage pendulum is to keep the pendulum swinging like any other pendulum system. It is used to overcome friction and air resistance. A pendulum can be 99% efficient. *** most devices do not have such efficiency when energy is transformed from one type to another...

2. The up and down motion of the seesaw or lever system is created from the varying centrifugal force of the pendulum. It is free. Note that the highest position of the pendulum is hardly affected even though the weight is lifted twice. *** Please watch the Raymond Head Video 6 again carefully. The seesaw motion is FREE. It comes about because of the varying centrifugal force of the pendulum on the pivot...

3. This free energy is considered as the lead-out gravitational energy. It can cause the hammer-like weight to do work. *** The FREE seesaw motion can do work - produce sound and crash nuts... Energy must come from somewhere. That somewhere is the lead-out gravitational energy...

If gravitational energy can be lead-out or brought-in, magnetic or electromagnetic energy must be able to be brought-in.

The Milkovic Two Stage Pendulum has been around for many years. We were aware of it since early 2000. However we did not come up with this presentation until March 2016. *** In one of the early, badly constructed, Milkovic 2SO, there was much shaking. The pendulum did not go back to its initial position after raising the hammer. Raymond Head did a good job...

Please circulate this information and encourage all scientists to re-examine the Milkovic 2SO...

Virtually everything you write is crap Lawrence, so I have quoted you in full to save time.

You are inputting energy into your system on every swing as you state! Penny not dropping Lawrence ?

You have taken no measurements at all but just assumed you have "free energy" because it looks to you like the "pendulum is hardly affected even though the weight is lifted twice".. what a load of crap!

You do not understand the equivalence principle.. obviously!

If you can, watch this.. the physics professor (who also made a right mess explaining things to the general public with his apple, leaving me sitting there shaking my head..) demonstrated a tennis ball being centrifugally spun which could lift a 2Kg brick.. tied on the other end of the rope. Is this overunity as well Lawrence ?? Of course it isnt!

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2. The up and down motion of the seesaw or lever system is created from the varying centrifugal force of the pendulum. It is free. Note that the highest position of the pendulum is hardly affected even though the weight is lifted twice. *** Please watch the Raymond Head Video 6 again carefully. The seesaw motion is FREE. It comes about because of the varying centrifugal force of the pendulum on the pivot...

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Interesting possibilities here! The only way to determinethe input/output ratio is to somehow extract energy tomake some sort of measurement. The thought that comesto mind while watching the video is to utilize the outputstroke to operate an air compressor piston and collectcompressed air into a storage tank. Then use the compressedair to accomplish some work. It may be possible to eventap off some compressed air to keep the pendulum inmotion at its critical level by means of a simple actuatorto sustain output.

Things are not always as they seem. This phenomenondoes seem to have some potential.

Obtaining thrust from the mass of the magnet where it is accelerated on one side of its rotation and decelerated on the other side is a nonsense. What is not taken into account is the reaction on the electromagnets that are doing the accelerating and decelerating. When that is taken into account it exactly cancels the unbalanced centrifugal forces that occur on the magnet's mass and which is the source of the supposed thrust.

Smudge

We did the experiment of repelling two identical magnets by a solenoid in the middle of a tube. One magnet hits the hard surface. The other magnets hits a surface with cotton wool.

We did the experiment of repelling two identical magnets by a solenoid in the middle of a tube. One magnet hits the hard surface. The other magnets hits a surface with cotton wool.

Guess the result. The experiment can be easily repeated.

Can net thrust be produced?

Yes. Thrust can be achieved in this manner.The energy consumed by this process is available via the solenoid equation.with respect to the elasticity of the surfaces being struck, and the mass * velocity of the magnet.The 'harder' surface will produce more force in a linear direction.

This is said to be equivalent to the imbalanced gyroscope.The major difference being, the gyroscope is able to produce linear thrust without the losses associated with impact.There are also losses from the electromagnetic induction , resistance, heat, etc.as well as frictional and wind resistance losses in the moving components.

If you can figure out a way to "lead in" these energies that are lost, we may have something to work with.....

This forum has dropped below the level of discernment that I am comfortable being associated with, as a result I have decided to leave the forum with immediate effect.

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Is it possible for a Country such as Ethiopia to develop and demonstrate a lead-out energy flying saucer?

1. Can Ethiopian Scientists replicate the Milkovic Two Stage Pendulum?2. Can the Milkovic Two Stage Pendulum be firm enough to confirm the effect as seen in the Raymond Head Video 6?3. Can the Ethiopian Scientists replicate the Chan Wheel to bring-in or lead-out more gravitational energy?4. Can the Ethiopian Scientists do accurate scientific experimentsi to confirm that there is indeed lead-out gravitational energy?5. Can the Ethiopian Scientists use magnets and coils to produce magnetic field to enhance performance?6. Can the Ethiopian Scientists then create a QMOGEN with the unbalanced wheel as an enhancing component?7. Can the Ethopian Scientists replace the unbalanced wheel with cylinder(s) to produce the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier that can bring-in gravitational and electromagnetic energy to increase output energy 30 times?8. Can the Ethiopian Scientists follow the design in reply 1 of this thread and produce a propulsion unit that can produce net thrust upwards?9. Can the Ethiopian Scientists put multiple propulsion units together to produce a working lead-out energy flying saucer?10. Will the Ethiopian Government and people support their scientists?11. Will that boost the self-confidence of Ethiopia and the African Nations?12. Will the USA or Chinese Government stop that?

China produced the Nanjing UFO in Aug 2006 - a few months after Lee Cheung Kin and Lawrence Tseung presented the Lead-out Energy theory at Tsinghua University...

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