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If my friends pick it up, I will as well. Treyarch has surpassed IW in the COD series. MW3 was the least fun I've had in a COD game.

Besides, if you guys think COD is bad for releasing the same game with "minor" updates, take a look at Street Fighter. SF2 had 4, well 5 if you count HD Remix, versions, each requiring a NEW arcade cabinet; SF3 had 3 editions, SF4 is on its 2nd edition with damn near required $15 DLC update.

Capcom has been doing this for years. And with each new edition, it has been better than the following. Even MvC3 had a new release in less than a year.

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If my friends pick it up, I will as well. Treyarch has surpassed IW in the COD series. MW3 was the least fun I've had in a COD game.

Besides, if you guys think COD is bad for releasing the same game with "minor" updates, take a look at Street Fighter. SF2 had 4, well 5 if you count HD Remix, versions, each requiring a NEW arcade cabinet; SF3 had 3 editions, SF4 is on its 2nd edition with damn near required $15 DLC update.

Capcom has been doing this for years. And with each new edition, it has been better than the following. Even MvC3 had a new release in less than a year.

Depends what you mean by "surpassed", but I agree I had more raw fun with BO then I did with MW3. The odd modes like gun game, sticks and stones, and all those were pretty fun and was the only thing making CoD feel fresh again.

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If my friends pick it up, I will as well. Treyarch has surpassed IW in the COD series. MW3 was the least fun I've had in a COD game.

Besides, if you guys think COD is bad for releasing the same game with "minor" updates, take a look at Street Fighter. SF2 had 4, well 5 if you count HD Remix, versions, each requiring a NEW arcade cabinet; SF3 had 3 editions, SF4 is on its 2nd edition with damn near required $15 DLC update.

Capcom has been doing this for years. And with each new edition, it has been better than the following. Even MvC3 had a new release in less than a year.

Definitely true about Capcom releasing the same game over and over. But here's the catch, they only charge you $30-$39 for the game. Treyarch and IW want the full $59.99, which sorta bites.

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If my friends pick it up, I will as well. Treyarch has surpassed IW in the COD series. MW3 was the least fun I've had in a COD game.

Besides, if you guys think COD is bad for releasing the same game with "minor" updates, take a look at Street Fighter. SF2 had 4, well 5 if you count HD Remix, versions, each requiring a NEW arcade cabinet; SF3 had 3 editions, SF4 is on its 2nd edition with damn near required $15 DLC update.

Capcom has been doing this for years. And with each new edition, it has been better than the following. Even MvC3 had a new release in less than a year.

there are 6 sf2's counting HDR :p

sf2, sf2:ce, sf2t, ssf2, ssf2t.

the anniversary edition actually lets you pick which version you want to play with, some of them being in all 5.

Definitely true about Capcom releasing the same game over and over. But here's the catch, they only charge you $30-$39 for the game. Treyarch and IW want the full $59.99, which sorta bites.

If we're being honest, the amount of new content in a new cod vs the capcom fighter revisions isn't even in the same ballpark.

But in either case, it's something people really want and can't get any other way. If you're psyched about new content for your favorite game/series, the value proposition is fundamentally altered. I didnt bat an eyelash forking out $80 + tax for the ME3 collectors edition, but $60 for a random new release? What am I, made of money?

Yeah, but while there are all these new tactics thanks to the weapons/equipment/kill streaks, there will also be counters to them.

The only thing I really want is a more balanced version of Assassin. One perk that negates every thing about tracking enemies, from UAVs to C-UAVs to motion sensors, is too much. Separate the motion sensor aspect like they did in BO with Hacker or something.

That way if someone wants to really stay off the radar and play like a douche, they give up a lot by choosing 3 perks to stay undetected (e.g. Blind Eye + Assassin + Hacker).

-Dolphin dive is back
-Tomahawk is back
-Multi-team TDM is here (bout time)
-The knife is now an equippable item, not just a quick thumb press
-Attack Dogs KS is back
-From what others have said it looks like your loadout isn't preset slots (primary weapon, secondary weapon, etc) but instead is a "point" system where you have say, 10 points to spend on your gear. You may not want a secondary weapon but maybe you want extra attachments on your primary. Can't confirm this but apparently there's been rumor of it and seeing all the blank spots in each class would support this.
-Black Ops rank emblems + custom emblems appear to be back.
-Spectator mode

I was thinking of getting BOII, but I have no desire to anymore. I just discovered Blacklight: Retribution, which is arguably 5x the quality of CoD, doesn't cost $60, and scratches my shooter itch quite nicely. Also, no $15 DLC map packs that fragment the community.

I was thinking of getting BOII, but I have no desire to anymore. I just discovered Blacklight: Retribution, which is arguably 5x the quality of CoD, doesn't cost $60, and scratches my shooter itch quite nicely. Also, no $15 DLC map packs that fragment the community.

I've seen gameplay of that, looks cool, but I thought it was a PC game?

I've seen gameplay of that, looks cool, but I thought it was a PC game?

Oops, I forgot I was in the console gaming forum. Indeed Blacklight: Retribution is PC only.

It's a fantastic shooter though. Does everything CoD does, but better. The gameplay is pretty much the same, but with a few twists that make it more tactical (players have a "hyper reality visor", or basically an in-game wall hack that lets you see the position of every single enemy, so you can never complain about being killed unexpectedly).

Also you can pilot a "hardsuit", which is basically a giant powered mech armor. CoD doesn't let you do that.

Weapons selection is large, graphics are great, and there's customization out the ass. It's F2P, meaning it costs no money up front, but if you want you can spend money to level up faster.