Comments on: Report: Cruz wants to stay with Giants over long haulhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/
ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comFri, 18 Aug 2017 03:59:01 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: sanjosecupcrazyhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2463315
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:16:23 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2463315I got 99 problems, but Cruz ain’t one.
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Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:12:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2463160everyone and their mom knows cruz can make 10 times as much in NY with a 7 year deal than going anywhere else and signing an 10+ year deal that frankly he isnt worth… just sign the line youll be lined up for the rest of your life off endorsements
]]>By: bigbluecotthttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2463050
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 18:17:46 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2463050@ justintuckrule- Agreed. He did go nuts during that San Fran game. He also did have some double coverages in zone against linebackers. He will have the advantage everytime. However, was the game plan seriously going into that game…”watch cruz and do what ever you can to stop him?” from the 9ers point? NO way. After what they saw from Nicks against ATL, 115 yards and 2 TD’s and against GB, 165 yards and 2TD’s, i’m pretty sure the 9ers were thinking ” whatever you do, don’t let Nicks beat you” And they did a great job of that…..the benefactor was Cruz.
Simply put, he’s a great compliment to Nicks and I would LOVE to see both of them back, but if i had to pick one, it’s Nicks.
]]>By: The Mayorhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462988
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:55:07 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462988Yeah, both of the teams in the Superbowl last year didn’t have star slot receivers. Using 8% of the salary cap on good slot receiver is a waste.
]]>By: Mr. Wright 212http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462979
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:53:34 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462979I get the feel that this could lead to a lot of collusion (price-fixing, in a sense) down the line. That whole thing with Cano firing Boras and giving the Yanks a “hometown discount” of sorts feels the same way.

But being a Giants and Yanks fan, and hoping they both stay, I obviously only care as LONG as they stay on cap-friendly deals.

]]>By: stersarepigshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462942
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:43:22 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462942Come to the Vikings! We’ll pay ya 15 million a year!
]]>By: lawyermalloyhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462913
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:26:39 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462913“Rap Star/ Agent combo”
If my memory serves me correctly, I believe it was p.diddy or some freakish name like that, that negotiated Ricky Williams first contract that may have been the worst contract ever.
]]>By: blu4l1fehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462860
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:58:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462860They (the Giants) liked what they saw in him, and the team did put a ring on his finger, a SB ring that is, so, this marriage seem to have had a good start. What you say about going against the grain and keeping the party going?
]]>By: eyedocjayhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462833
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:42:28 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462833Since when is $7M below market value for a slot receiver…let alone a walk on from UMass…Cruz will sign a deal and you’ll see even more Chunky soup commercials next year
]]>By: sandersmarcus10http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462770
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:12:30 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462770I dont get it the Giants don’t want to pay him that much a year but he doesnt want to go anywhere else where he could get value for his play which is well above knicks who is less dominate or productive. So why would Cruz not entertain other teams.
]]>By: justintuckrulehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462701
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:45:49 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462701@meatfish – Reese would say “go for it then”
]]>By: meatfish66http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462667
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:32:33 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462667Technically, he could still get some leverage if he made some sort of play with the Jets? That way Cruz can reconcile the desire to stay in New York with retaining some leverage in contract discussion, and it’s not like the Jets are going to say “no thanks, we’ve had enough media coverage and publicity for one offseason”
]]>By: ss376http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462487
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:32:44 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462487I don’t see how we can tie up $20-22M in 2 wide receivers without being pretty thin in other areas. I could live with maybe $18M for the two of them, even though it’s not that much less.

But if Nicks misses another bunch of games this season, he’s not going to get $10M on the open market…

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Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:23:21 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462459Some team is going to find out they’re giving up big money and possibly draft picks for Alvin Harper Part II.
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Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:05:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462410@bigbluecott- Cruz was bracketed and sometimes doubled throughout the nfccg and he still went off. Too much is made over slot vs outside. If he can get open and catch, that’s all that should matter
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Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:02:19 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462398I think that Cruz is more than a slot receiver, but not a number 1 WO. So for a slot/no 2 WR $7-8 seems fair. Anyone who watches the NYG knows that Nicks is the bigger weapon, and if they pay Cruz $10M then by all rights they should pay Nicks more. That won’t happen because of cap space.
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Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:42:53 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462343It’s all well and good to think Nicks is the better player, but what about the 6 games a year (or more) he isn’t on the field or is playing so banged up he is severely less effective?
]]>By: weaponx73http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462324
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:31:46 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462324I love how anti cruz staying in New York this site is. As if marketing deals which wont be voided due to injuries are some how not a consideration when it comes to being payed. A player is much better off getting a chunk of his money from endoresments that are guarenteed than in an NFL contract that goes up in smoke as soon as production ir health slips. Obviously Cruz is more savy than your average pundit.
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Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:30:30 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462321Is he going to produce a Cruz jersey with a picture of Che Guevara on the front?
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Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:21:29 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462302Nicks is clearly the 10mill/season WR.
Top 3 in my opinion (Nicks).
Cruz benefits from Nicks constant double teams.

Ever notice that teams don’t double Cruz and leave Nicks in single coverage?
They double Nicks and let Cruz get single coverage.
That alone explains why Cruz = 7mill/season.

GO BIG BLUE!!!

]]>By: patfankenhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462269
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:06:02 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462269The greatest slot receiver in the history of the game just got $6MM/yr, what should a younger version of Wes Welker expect.

CAA, Roc Nation and Victor Cruz should all recognize that the slot receiver is NEVER going to get the same kind of money that premium outside the numbers receivers get. Its as simple as that.

With the Giants currently at $7MM amd Cruz somewhere north of 10MM, Victor and his agents should be happy to compromise on some kind of $8MM/year deal. That is simply the reality of the position. Besides he should more than make up the “lost” revenue through off the field gigs that JZ can give him.

]]>By: smalltime2http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462238
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:43:56 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462238Another athleter making another mistake with his life and money. Over and over History has told us that Rappers Can Rap and Athletes can ball but they can’t be mixed. Cruz and Mr. Z will get ate up by the NFL GM’s.
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Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:43:49 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462237This is an interesting article. The fact that teams won’t give up a high draft pick AND pay Cruz $10M though doesn’t mean that they won’t pay him something close to that if he becomes an unrestricted FA.

He’s obviously close to his family who lives close by, so I’m sure the Giants see a hometown discount there, but the idea that Jay-Z’s representation could make him $3M more off the field that the representation of another entertainment agent is just that, an idea. It’s yet to be proven.

]]>By: growuppeterpanhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462232
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:40:45 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462232There is no state income tax in Texas. What about that being used as leverage in taking below market deals in TX?
]]>By: larrydavid7000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462230
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:40:21 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462230this clown is losing the war. if he was that good of a WR why haven’t other teams made a bid for his services why.????? I rest my case.!!!!!!!!!
]]>By: nyg201http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462229
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:39:08 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462229Cruz is not losing leverage by saying he’s wants to stay in NY. Betcha’ if a team offered over 10 mil a year he’d jump at it in a heartbeat.

CAA has always and will always squeeze every last dollar they can for a player, JayZ doesn’t change anything. The allure of JayZ is his brand and soley that. JayZ is not partnered with CAA to help convince players to take less money this is just silly.

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Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:36:50 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462225this is bad news for the nfc east
]]>By: nygfhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462221
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:34:22 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462221Jay-Z sat down to their first meeting and said “Alright Victor, we’ve got your entire post-Giants career mapped out for ya. We based it off the experiences of other offensive skill players to leave the Giants like Steve Smith, Kevin Boss, Jeremy Shockey, Plaxico Burress, Derrick Ward, and Brandon Jacobs who found the grass, and cash, is much greener on the other side. Now, we’ve learned Jacksonville can’t draft to save their lives and have a ton of cash to throw around at other teams’ players instead. What do you think about Jacksonville, Florida and Blaine Gabbert for the next 5-6 years of your life, Vic?”

No wonder he wants to stay.

]]>By: pksullivanmhahttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/report-cruz-wants-to-stay-with-giants-over-long-haul/#comment-2462218
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:31:07 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462218Congratulations to Victor Cruz for following his heart. @footballady52 🏈
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Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:30:08 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1947645#comment-2462216Not begrudging Jay-Z as a businessman because he seems to know what he’s doing… that said, it’s getting a little annoying. I feel like next time I go to buy a vacuum cleaner I’m going to see the “HOVAcuum by Jay-Z” in the store.
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