Comments on: Bud Adams chooses Jeff Fisher over Vince Younghttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/bud-adams-chooses-jeff-fisher-over-vince-young/
ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comSun, 18 Feb 2018 04:07:23 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: willatxhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/bud-adams-chooses-jeff-fisher-over-vince-young/#comment-913495
Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:29:25 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-913495I live in Austin and while VY is home town hero here, he has to grow up. He should realize that pouting in public is not the way to handle things. You are or were the leader of the team on the field, your personal feelings can’t get in the way because the team is bigger than one player. I do think Fisher could have handle things better by not talking to the press about his dislike for the way Vince handled thing but in the end I think Fisher’s goal was to distance himself from Vince so Vince would crash and burn on his own. I guess Vince will be a Raider next year, LOL!
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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 18:02:19 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-904235phillyfan4ever says:
Jan 5, 2011 7:35 PM
Vince Young enjoy being the next Jamarcus Russell

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no, no jamarcus still has the “biggest bust ever” spot locked up and leinart is way ahead of vince. do you play darts with your eyes closed?

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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:56:10 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-904217bbpats says:
Jan 5, 2011 6:54 PM
Smart move. Fisher is an excellent coach.
Young just really never seemed to get that being a QB in the NFL takes work, lots of work.
Your not in Texas anymore baby.

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please tell me how Fisher is a great coach?

look at all the things he has failed to do:

if he runs the entire show in nashville then he is on the hook for their personnel problems. no corner backs to speak of, until this year they haven’t a decent kick/punt returner in years, and until kenny britt came on this year no receivers since derrick mason was run out of town. gettin drummed 59-0 by the pats was the lowest point in his career. starting the drunk kerry collins over vince was a mistake. collins couldn’t be any less mobile. benching vince in the second game against the steelers is a clear message that you don’t like the guy. what other starting qb gets benched in the second game of the season only being down by 10 points or less?

he is a pompous ass. hope he likes that small market gig he has because that S wouldn’t fly in the big cities.

In fact, the media has only reported VY’s “Bizarre” behavior in a biased, one sided view, without questioning the motives of the leaker (Fisher).
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So Fisher “leaked” that video of Young going off in the strip club?
Did he “leak” the sideline tantrums shown on national TV too?
How about Young’s mother talking to the media about her concerns for her son committing suicide?
How about the Titan players that have spoken out about being tired of his act?

This is all a conspiracy by Jeff Fisher?
You are watching way too much Glenn Beck.

Vince Young is like Peyton Manning or Brett Favre. He needs some element of control over the offense. You have to give him some freedom and trust. You’re just stupid if you don’t do so, because HE KNOWS HOW TO WIN GAMES for you.

Jeff Fisher is an egomaniacal bitter USC fan. F*ck you, Jeff. You’ll have NO CHANCE of winning when or if Vince Young’s new team ever comes to town. It’s personal with him.

You put out phony rumors that he was suicidal in an effort to get rid of him but it backfired on your ass and now you’re probably going to get fired. You’re a pathetic excuse for a man. All I have left to say to you is this…

EAT IT!

]]>By: baseballstarshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/05/bud-adams-chooses-jeff-fisher-over-vince-young/#comment-903622
Thu, 06 Jan 2011 12:41:42 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903622A lot of people needlessly bashed Bud Adams recently for what they thought would be his decision to keep Young over Fisher. How foolish were you. Please don’t compare the guy to micromanagers like Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder. The only two times he’s had a hand in recent personnel decisions was drafting Vince Young (and remember, Fisher wanted his USC buddy Matt Lineart, which would have really crashed the organization), and forcing Fisher to start Young after a Collins-led offense sputtered out to an 0-6 start at the beginning of the 2009 season. That’s it. Jeff Fisher was given the ultimate say in personnel decisions. Any failures of personnel is on Fisher’s back, and there have been PLENTY in recent years.

Fisher has played favorites for years. He keeps a pipeline open for former USC players. He signs players like Chris Mortensen’s son, not to improve the team but to improve his standing in the media. He’s a much better politician than he is a coach. He has kept Donnie Nickey on the team for years, and there’s no excuse for it. He chose Nickey over LeGarrette Blount, for crying out loud. He played Scaife over Cook, when it was obvious which one had more potential. He signed Randy Moss and then promptly set him on the bench all season long, giving a BS excuse that although Randy was supersmart when it came to football, Randy and Kenny Britt played the same position. Give me a break.

When the Titans were accused of playing dirty all season long, no one in the media pointed the finger at Fisher. That’s because they have a love affair with him almost as strong as he loves Kerry Collins. Six winning seasons in SIXTEEN YEARS is not great, no matter how much the media tries to spin it. In a bigger market, Field Goal Fisher’s mediocrity would not have been tolerated. But you won’t hear too many in the media talk about it. He provides them with too much information as an “unnamed source from within the league.” Take out the Music City Miracle (which could have been ruled a forward pass), and Fisher’s postseason record would be 2-6. That’s TWO postseason wins in sixteen years.

The only reason this story became a “me or him” ultimatum is because of Fisher. He basically gave Bud a demand, and it looks like Bud is going to cave in. For the sake of the Titans, Bud, get rid of Fisher as well. He will lead this team in the desert for 40 years if you don’t do something. Sure, we may make a mistake and sign a bad coach, but the only thing you will guarantee this team by not making a move is another mediocre, lost year.

Vince Young hasn’t proven himself worthy of having the power to fire your head coach. I think that he has good skills, but I wouldn’t have him on my team. He’s too unstable. You have to babysit him and manage his emotions. He’s like that ex-girlfriend that had great sexual skills, but was really crazy. Eventually, the thrills cannot matter when she’s threatening your life with a knife in hand.

The Titans had the police in the front room one too many times.

But I wouldn’t be surprised to see Jeff Fisher leave, too.

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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 10:13:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903587Impressed by Adams’ decision, surprised that he reduced Young’s trade value by the announcement. Seahawks will now wait for his release and pick him up for no compensation. Hasselback is a physical wreck and Whitehurst is erratic. A raw-raw college coach like pumped ‘n jacked Pete Carroll should be just the right style for Vince Y.
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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 06:44:44 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903568Is it just me that thinks VY to the redskins or raiders will never happen? niether team would really be upgrading and it would cost $$$$. if hes released he will be the Best QB on the market other than mcnabb. VY just might end up in miami or carolina depening on Lucks desicion
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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 06:06:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903558I didn’t think the old geezer had it in him, but he just gave VY one of these:

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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 04:50:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903521Smart move. Fischer is a better coach then Young is a player, and replacing Young will be easier then replacing a head coach.
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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 04:07:28 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903468In fact, the media has only reported VY’s “Bizarre” behavior in a biased, one sided view, without questioning the motives of the leaker (Fisher). Fisher’s behavior in dividing that team was just as bizarre as VY’s. But the media and most of the commenters here give that below average wonk a free pass. Even calling Fisher “a great coach!”. PUHLEEEZE! Bill Belichick, Mike Tomlin, Atlanta’s Mike Smith, Sean Peyton, are great coaches. Fisher loses evertime he goes up against an actual great coach. Over half of the Titan players are with VY on this disaster. And they now hate that organization because of it. Bud Adams better be ready to ship out Chris Johnson and a whole lot of more Titans for his Butt Boy, Fisher. Because he has lost them. The Titans are in 5 year rebuild mode now. Just the right strategy to save a weak feckless coach.
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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 03:59:10 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903459bigmike7914

I never said that Fisher was a great coach.
It was Vince Young that is being shown the door and he caused that situation himself.

Give me a break about how many yards Young “accounts” for and how many TDs he runs for.

In his rookie season he ran for 7 TDs.
He has ran for just 2 TDs in the last three seasons combined so that is a myth.
His first year in the NFL he had 552 yards rushing.
He has rushed for 433 yards in the last three seasons combined so that is another myth.

Where are these magic yards that Vince Young “accounts for” that do not show up his his passing or rushing stats?

Jay Cutler came into the league the same year as Young and he has thrown for twice as many TDs, twice as many yards, has a higher completion % and a higher passer rating over those five seasons. He has even ran for more yards and TDs than young over the last three seasons and he gets ripped on this site on a daily basis.
No fights with his coach or teammates, no brawls in a strip club, no suicide watches…..

Young is a bust and the numbers along with his actions speak for themself.

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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 03:50:33 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903436VY want to go home to Texas. Jerry Jones loves challenges and talented players like VY. It was not unnoticed by JJ how a Mike Vick on a mission from GOD transformed himself this year and kicked the “Boys” butts. JJ has lost confidence in Romo. Its fatal! Look for VY to be a Cowboy in 2011 on the cheap. And he will flourish under a coach like Jason Garrett, who really knows how to develop a QB. VY will be more dedicated as he will take a rehab cue from Vick. And Fisher will flop in Tennessee. The game has already passed him by. He’s a dinosaur.
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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 03:27:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903410i have no problem with Vince Young, and Albert Haynesworth in silver and black next year…GO RAIDERS!!!
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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 03:14:33 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903390I hope VY goes to another AFC team and KILLS the Titans. The Texans will win a ring before the Titans do.
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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 03:13:42 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903387I am just a fan of my fantasy football team is what I meant to type :p
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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 03:11:47 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903383stuck with them when they refused to do more run than shoot which killed them from getting a ring
stuck with them when they handcuffed AIR McNair for a ultraconservative offense
stuck with them when they REFUSED to get top tier recievers for their QBs
stuck with them when they moved to Tennessee
stuck with them when they dissed McNair
stuck with them when they benched VY for Kerry Collins (eventhough VY has more talent and a better record)
Now? You cut a QB that just wins for a coach that has done NOTHING over the 16 years he has ran the org.

I’m done. I am not a fan of my fantasy football team. At least I win every year!
And for those of you that say I’m not a “real” fan. When an NFL owners starts paying me to be a fan and
support their dumb decisions then I will stick with them to the very end.

Oh yeah, $100 the Titans pick up Matt Leinart, the QB Jeff Fisher wanted all along. And watch them do what they have done for the past 16 years, UNDERACHIEVE

I’m done with the Titans.

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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 03:08:26 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903376I’m thinking that maybe Arizona takes a chance on him.
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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 03:00:58 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903362Bud must have had a chat with Al Davis.
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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 02:58:18 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903360Minnesota should hire a decent coaching staff and sign VY. The backfield that should have been in Austin can still happen in Minneapolis.
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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 02:55:42 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903356Did Bud Adams just kill his bargaining power by admitting that Young wont be on the team next year?

Seems that a team won’t really want to give up too much if they think they can get him as a free agent after the roster deadline passes….

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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 02:50:15 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903349@Philtration….He’s far from a bust, what you are talking about is irrelevant because he is the spoon that stirs the Titans offense, without Vince the run game suffers and teams dont have to take a man out of coverage to spy without Vince in the game, it’s no coincidence that with Vince the Titans are 30-17 and without him they are 14-17, yards thrown for and passed for aren’t the sole stats count how many yards he accounts for and how many tds he runs for then you get a true assesment of how good or bad Vince is, and contrary to what people believe being a qb doesnt take a lot of work when you got the god given ability of Vince Young when all else fails he has athleticism and speed to lean on not many other qbs have that, thats why they have to work so hard.
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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 02:40:23 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903338@philtration:

So you answer a question about why Fisher gets a pass by pointing out Young’s mediocrity?

Nothing in your response answers the question of why Fisher continually gets away with being mediocre at best himself.

You respond to a criticism of Fisher by blasting Young.

Typical response from a Fisher supporter because there is no way to defend his extremely weak overall resume as a head coach.

Again: 6 playoff appearances in 17 years, one SB appearance, no titles, no playoff wins since 2003.

I defy you to name one other owner in the league other than 175 year old dementia patient Bud Adams who wouldn’t have fired this guy by now.

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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 02:39:10 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903336philtration – You are highlighting the problem – and the great strategic move by Fisher. Vince is gone based on his own actions. By making it Fisher vs. VY, all of Fisher’s flaws get overlooked after a 6-10 season that was a disaster in multiple areas. But the media keeps running “Fisher vs. VY” and fans keep buying it. Everyone jumped up and down to point at the Cowboys defense as the final straw for Wade Phillips; but no-one points to the same mess for Fisher – a conservative defensive coach. In the meantime, hopefully Bud is really evaluating Fisher for what he is.
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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 02:34:37 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=102053#comment-903332realitypolice – Fisher keeps getting a pass because he is in a small market, because he is a great PR guy, likeable, involved in teh league, a netwroker. He does stuff like signing Chris Mortensen’s son to the team for a pre-season game as a favor to guy who is supposed to provide unbiased coverage. I can;t really hate him for it – I guess politics is half the game. But in a big market (like if the team had stayed in Houston), he would be long gone.
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