If, for some reason, it actually does look horrible (which I'm sure it won't), I do hope that they offer a "recall" of some sort to get it installed/upgraded when they actually do get it working. That would make everybody

If, for some reason, it actually does look horrible (which I'm sure it won't), I do hope that they offer a "recall" of some sort to get it installed/upgraded when they actually do get it working. That would make everybody

I agree with this, especially if the price of the 2SS package remains the same and they do plan on getting it fully working at all..

You will only be turning the ambient lighting on at night (at least that is when it will be effective). Therefore, there's agreat chance you will have your lights on, meaning all the dash lights and accessory ligths will be on as well. From the pics I've seen, alot of the dash lighting is the same color as the ambient so in essence, the dash lighting can kind of be considered "ambient" lighting. I think all the lighting in the doors combines with the accessory lighting will look just fine. I also think that if there was lighting on the dash like we all hoped, it might actually be abit too much in addition to the accessory and guage lighting. I guess what I'm saying is, I don't think it'll look like anything is missing when all the lights are on together. Anyone else agree?

You will only be turning the ambient lighting on at night (at least that is when it will be effective). Therefore, there's agreat chance you will have your lights on, meaning all the dash lights and accessory ligths will be on as well. From the pics I've seen, alot of the dash lighting is the same color as the ambient so in essence, the dash lighting can kind of be considered "ambient" lighting. I think all the lighting in the doors combines with the accessory lighting will look just fine. I also think that if there was lighting on the dash like we all hoped, it might actually be abit too much in addition to the accessory and guage lighting. I guess what I'm saying is, I don't think it'll look like anything is missing when all the lights are on together. Anyone else agree?

You will only be turning the ambient lighting on at night (at least that is when it will be effective). Therefore, there's agreat chance you will have your lights on, meaning all the dash lights and accessory ligths will be on as well. From the pics I've seen, alot of the dash lighting is the same color as the ambient so in essence, the dash lighting can kind of be considered "ambient" lighting. I think all the lighting in the doors combines with the accessory lighting will look just fine. I also think that if there was lighting on the dash like we all hoped, it might actually be abit too much in addition to the accessory and guage lighting. I guess what I'm saying is, I don't think it'll look like anything is missing when all the lights are on together. Anyone else agree?

After seeing the new ambient lighting for myself - see my time machine post - I have to say that I'm disappointed with the whole thing and the whole car. I'll be canceling my order after work today. I am speechless that the ambient lighting didn't light up my shoes as I was told by the dealer when I ordered. I'll be picking up a Prius on the way home

No. If they thought that looked better than the dash they would have just done this back in December when problems first started being announced.

Next year ABL will probably include the dash and extras like the HUD, and the '10 model will then be known as the unfinished test mule of the 5th gens.

Kinda' like the '01 Z06 guys?...

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.... early adopter penalty. It can happen to anyone who buys anything just to get it first, be it a stereo, and iPhone or in this case a car.

Now how's about we wait till Saturday and see how everything looks before we continue?
Maybe... just maybe, people will like it even MORE. (And then we will have to find a new thing to complain about. I nominate stripe length, cause I don't think people have moaned about that yet )

.... early adopter penalty. It can happen to anyone who buys anything just to get it first, be it a stereo, and iPhone or in this case a car.

Now how's about we wait till Saturday and see how everything looks before we continue?
Maybe... just maybe, people will like it even MORE. (And then we will have to find a new thing to complain about. I nominate stripe length, cause I don't think people have moaned about that yet )

Let's hold out opinions until Saturday. You please everyone...

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"...What IS true: We anticipated that this would happen - we are never finished - and yes, Ford DOES deserve to win now and then. To think that GM can come out with a car to make ford throw in the towel is simply foolhardy..." - fbodfather

.... early adopter penalty. It can happen to anyone who buys anything just to get it first, be it a stereo, and iPhone or in this case a car.

Now how's about we wait till Saturday and see how everything looks before we continue?
Maybe... just maybe, people will like it even MORE. (And then we will have to find a new thing to complain about. I nominate stripe length, cause I don't think people have moaned about that yet )

Like it even more? Lol.. That is wishful thinking. You can't take something away that we've all seen and been believing was what the interior was going to look like and the take the best part of it away without adding something else equally as impressive and hope people will like the new missing interior better..lol...Don't get me wrong, I hope you are right..But I am stuck in reality here..

And personally, while I am a little disappointed that it's not going to be in the dash, it's kinda like the disappointment you have when you find out your hot fudge sunday only has 2 cherries on top instead of 3.

Well in all fairness we have been hearing about problems with ABL for a few months now, that should be enough time for people to accept the possibility that it might not happen or be altered.

I hope it looks awesome, and that's all I can do until I see some pics or vids on Saturday. Or I could also delay my order till next year, because I am REALLY hoping for some Z28 action. Like REALLY REALLY REALLY hoping for some z28 action.

I am saying wait till Saturday and maybe things will be cool and this thread will look silly. Maybe they will give us afterburners and a cupon for free dash install.

You can call me a fanboy, but I remember a sad day in 2002 when the last F bodies were made, and a certain someone told us to 'keep the faith' about it's return. Now here we are and that promise has been kept. That means a lot to me personally.

Have you lost your mind? You see today's report from Q4? They finally beat estimates- just in the wrong direction. $9.6 BILLION loss for the quarter; "Excluding special items, GM lost $5.9 billion, or $9.65 a share, in the quarter".

Dude, it's trading at $2.34 per share. How do you lose $9.65 per share on something that's worth $2.34? They are headed for Chapter 11 IMO- no way around it now. And, yes, that's a GOOD thing.

I've been itching to buy GM stock, but with shady things like this happening I'm reluctant...not a sign of strength by any means.

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Have you lost your mind? You see today's report from Q4? They finally beat estimates- just in the wrong direction. $9.6 BILLION loss for the quarter; "Excluding special items, GM lost $5.9 billion, or $9.65 a share, in the quarter".

Dude, it's trading at $2.34 per share. How do you lose $9.65 per share on something that's worth $2.34? They are headed for Chapter 11 IMO- no way around it now. And, yes, that's a GOOD thing.

Hey, he's close anyways... I'd maybe take a serious look at GE. There's a company with stock in the toilet for no real reason other than the overall economy. If you got time to wait (and money to spend), that I'd seriously consider. GM ? Not with a 10 foot poll.

Au contraire. We were told to "keep the faith" and that all would be fine. Do I need to look back to find posts where people proclaimed that ABL would be good to go and the rumors were baseless?

Although it'd be interesting to see any of those, I have to ask: is it really necessary; will it do any good? I think it would just further flame already surging anger/frustration/etc. on this topic. I'm not saying don't express one's self - just think more globally in our community. This is not a place to bash. We should try to remain happy that although it's been a long, bumpy road, Camaro is coming back, after all. I'm sure they wanted all the features on the Concept to make it to production, and did what they could to enable that, but not all things work out. I'm just suggesting to try to remain positive, on the whole

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I am saying wait till Saturday and maybe things will be cool and this thread will look silly. Maybe they will give us afterburners and a cupon for free dash install.

You can call me a fanboy, but I remember a sad day in 2002 when the last F bodies were made, and a certain someone told us to 'keep the faith' about it's return. Now here we are and that promise has been kept. That means a lot to me personally.

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"...What IS true: We anticipated that this would happen - we are never finished - and yes, Ford DOES deserve to win now and then. To think that GM can come out with a car to make ford throw in the towel is simply foolhardy..." - fbodfather

We should all happy to get this car anyway we can. With the outlook for GM getting worse everyday, there may be no Camaro next year or any GM vehicle. Look around GM Inside News, its alot worse them most people would like to believe.