Konami details data transfer from Ground Zeroes to The Phantom Pain

Konami has provided some details regarding the data transfer that will allow you to transfer your Ground Zeroes save file to The Phantom Pain. Not much has changed here, but there seem to be some new requirements.

Here is a table showing the data transfer compatibility:

You’ll also need the disc for the process if you have a physical copy, and the online account has to be the same. And if you own it digitally, you’ll also have to use the same account.

To reiterate, this is what you get in The Phantom Pain for transferring your Ground Zeroes save file:

I’d like a “Change the past” mission where Venom must go back to Camp Omega while you’ll see GZ Snake sneaking around, and your goal is to prevent the XOF unit to take off while still saving Chico and Paz .

I hope not. I’m making a game right now with that same idea. (Of course with it’s own world and characters) So it probably will happen in TPP, then I’ll release my game and be accused of ripping TPP off. -_-

Romain Robin

You’re making a game ? Can you tell more ? I’m interested. (private message if you want to. Twitter: @RomainRobin

Guest

Yeah, I’m working on a few ideas. I’ll message you soon. I wrote that I’m doing a similar idea because I had a bad experience last year where I worked solid for 3 months building a game and then a game was released that was the EXACT SAME IDEA and I mean it was spooky how close it was. Even the art was similar and obviously I hadn’t heard of them and they hadn’t heard of me. And actually I was surprised because my version was more complex than their version and they had a whole team. I’m talking about The Escapists. I was doing an RPG based in a prison that was like Harvest Moon kind of where you live day to day in a prison but it was going to be a character based comedy where you slowly build a party day to day and really get to know the characters in your party, collect and craft escape items and eventually make a run for it with your team. There was going to be multiple ways of planning your escape so it wouldn’t be the same after two playthroughs. I was hoping to eventually add co-op to it too where you work together to sneak out together but Team 17 released The Escapists. It was really upsetting because I knew that if I kept working on it or released it and told the truth about what happened, I’d get accusations of stealing or ripping off The Escapists. So it was months of work, art and programming down the drain and it was a LOT of work.

I’m going to start building a few new ideas that I have (I have around 3 or 4 all together but only 2 of them are small arcade-ish indie games, the other 2 are a lot more ambitious and on the scale of the prison idea) and I might document the development online so if a similar game gets released I have proof that I didn’t steal. The Escapists genuinely broke my heart, as you probably know building a game is harder than making a movie (without CG of course)/making music/any other art because it has EVERY artform within it including math and physics as well as other programming. Are you a developer? Or did you just want to talk about it?

Edward Wokhands

I’ll message you on Twitter. I deleted my other comment because I don’t want to be accused of being a whiner. 😛

It won’t release any time soon, it’s a lot of work for one human. I’ll try to get a demo done soon though. I’m going to start a blog or something because last year I worked on a game for months, 12 hours a day and then Team 17 released the EXACT same idea. I genuinely cried. -_- I was making Harvest Moon but in a prison where you get to know everyone in there day to day, you have your daily routine and you get to know NPC’s personalities and skills and you build a party that plans a strategic escape. It was going to be like a long term, slow paced comedy/drama game where you genuinely spend time getting to know everyone, you get to know the prison layout, you bribe guards to get blue prints, you steal tools and craft shivs/shovels/whatever you need to escape. If your party member got caught you’d have to leave him behind during the escape or you could go and help him. If you do get caught you’d get put in a part of the prison that was harder to escape from and the route that you used would be blocked so you’d have to devise a new plan. I was so excited about it. And then The Escapists released. I knew nothing about it, they obviously didn’t know about me. But if I released my version (the art style was almost identical, it was genuinely spooky just how similar the whole thing was) can you imagine the accusations of ripping it off I’d get?

So I need to make a site where I can log the development so I at least have proof that I didn’t steal any ideas that come out and are similar. It was really hard scrapping that prison game though. Do you think it would be too similar to release that after The Escapists has been so successful? I have a few more ideas but it’s hard to get motivated into starting them after that blow.

Shalashaska

Piece of advice. Sell your idea BEFORE you make the game .. you knw.. a blog can help in that.. proof that its your idea and you came up with it .. YOU SHOULDVE released the game no matter if there’s a game like it out there.. It doesnt matter.. as long as it is good, people would love it. I played counter strike for years and then found thise online game that was a COMPLETE RIP off from counter strike.. it was like a homage to old counter strike and loved that more than the new updated stuff counter strike has..

Big_Boss88

Getting the sneaking suit and staff is so awesome ;D. Even though lots of cool suit will be in TPP, I’ll still use GZ suit a lot because its badass ^_^.

” Something that has never been done before ”
that’s what MGS is all about

RoderickThe13

I had completed GZ 100%, but I had to format my console and lost the data. I’m gonna to play it again to have something to transfer to TPP.

Romain Robin

Question for you guys about the POW : How is it counted ?At the moment I rescued 133 POW from my different missions. Will I keep them in TPP or the game will only count the “unique” POW, meaning less than 10 throughout the game… Or can I build a freaking army of POWs by playing the missions again and again ?

Mr.Pony

I’m guessing that it counts only once, for example if you extract Glaz and Palitz more than once it will not matter for you will have only one Glaz and one Palitz in your mother base, the same will happen for all the POWs, it will only count as a single play-through

Romain Robin

Too bad, I already would have had a nice yellow-dressed and head-bagged army of traumatized soldiers .. “We are Disordered Dogs”.

Ventris

hahahahahahahah
MEGA LOL thank you for that 🙂

Big_Boss88

This is what I think too. Not sure was it confirmed in some info from before, but only once for each POW makes sense to me.

Mr.Pony

I wish we could improve MB crew quarters to get more soldiers tough, it seems to be more division in TPP but still limited to 50 per division, in PW the limit was a bit frustrating…either that or I have a Fulton addiction

Yofiel Malachi Yacov

Did the CE sold out on amazon?

It was showed yesterday, now its unavailable. Damn. Hopefully they open it up again.

yes and part of those pre-orders ended on eBay with high prices by fault of scalpers.

Guest

Could be a special mission for the GZ owners and in E3 2013

Venom_Snake_BB

Could be a special mission for the GZ owners? I think it will be, in E3 2013 Red Band Trailer we saw this and the place is actually Camp Omega’s old prison area. I can surely say i never saw that in GZ. Hope it will be a special mission.

Venom_Snake_BB

Also a demo of TPP would be cool for the GZ owners like E3 Afghanistan Mission with a limited map of Afghanistan would be nice but it looked like there is no such a thing like that.

Mini gear

With tpp being so far, a demo for GZ owners like that short e3 mission would be nice

Big_Boss88

Yeah, I thought for quite some time that this could be a flashback about GZ in TPP. But then I realized that we never saw any moment like this and GZ mission wasn’t in daylight so maybe not that…

Most likely this scene is from the “revisit Camp Omega” mission :). But it’s interesting to see what is this “never done before in games” thing Kojima is talking about :O…

DanielGearSolid

Has anything been said about infiltrating interior enviroments?

Romain Robin

I guess there is still hope for urban environments / interiors.

The fact that there is a “Blue Urban” camo outfit raises the hopes 🙂

Plus, you know that in camp omega, guards actually can enter/exit the buildings ? I recorded on my PS4 an open door and a guard trying to shoot at me from the inside of the building. But there is an invisible wall in front of the door… Link :

An interview with a few of the level designers came out last year where they mentioned working on some large urban environments, so I wouldn’t worry too much. Wouldn’t be much of a Metal Gear game without at least one big military base to infiltrate, eh?

ThreeMadFrogs

You know what would have been great? When Konami announced the release date for The Phantom Pain, if they gave us a new side op/extra op for GZ to tide us over until September.

Ninja_Se7eN

It would be cool but then again I like the fact that the whole team is focused on delivering TPP as fast as they can :).

Mini gear

Last part not so much, they want us to suffer waiting 🙂

Ninja_Se7eN

I don’t know, I believe the hype is high enough already. I think that they would release it now if they could :P.

Edward Wokhands

Yeah, I’d rather have a perfect TPP in September than an extra mission that might divert resources. If they could do it with a separate team then great. It’s weird though how I can keep replaying Ground Zeroes and am not getting bored of it. I can’t even imagine how long TPP will last. I’ve put a total of 100 hours about into Ground Zeroes across PS3, PS4 and PC so if it’s 200 times bigger then goodbye 2 years of my life. If it multiplies perfectly then we should be able to get 20,000 hours out of TPP. I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if Kojima can do that.

Ninja_Se7eN

I agree, I’d rather have a better sooner TPP :P.

I couldn’t play Ground Zeroes that much but I think I’ll get back to it at least once before launch :).

Edward Wokhands

:O I’m actually jealous of you. You should go play it right now! 😛 Especially if you haven’t played all the side missions.

Ninja_Se7eN

I did, I completed 100% of the game as you can see in the screenshot bellow :P.

I just don’t have the stamina to do the same repetitive things over and over again. I got the 100% in about 10 to 15 hours and that was pretty much it for me :P.

Repetitive? After 100 hrs of gameplay on GZ.. I think it wasnt that bad .. but then again.. i was busy in it because i was making my own missions like 5 year old imagining stuff xD

Ninja_Se7eN

Good for you man :).
I just lost interest without anything specific to achieve or a motherbase to develop :P.

Shalashaska

Yup, I guess to each it’s own.. although.. i do agree with people saying that it was a demo.. come on.. the game can be finished in 3 minutes .. so yea.. very short.. it shouldnt even be called a game.. it’s equal to 1/999 of a G in the “game”

Ninja_Se7eN

True, I have no problem with the length of the game. They just shouldn’t charge as much of shorter games in my opinion.

Shalashaska

true that.

Edward Wokhands

Wow, I’m actually impressed that you got 100% in 15 hours. It took me about 2 weeks, like 2-4 hours each night playing to get all the S-Ranks. Then again I do a LOT of just laying around in the game like a Big Boss Sloth. I love just staking guards out and playing with them, trying to break the AI.

I laughed uncontrollably when I got a guard to lay down in the patrol route of another guard and the patrolling guard stopped and went ! …”what the hell are you doing?!” at this crazy looking guard just laying face down on the floor in the rain. XD There’s so many funny things you can do with the guards.

I actually got that first guard in the Ground Zeroes mission to stop just before the road and he actually stepped out in front of that first car that drives around. The driver run him over, got out of the car and went to check on him. It’s little details like that that I love. The AI seems so organic and realistic sometimes so I can just keep playing for hours.

Ninja_Se7eN

Thank you :).
I don’t think it’s that impressive though :P. Once you get the hang of things you can clear most missions in under 5 min and my record for the story mission was around 30min rescuing every POW.

Yeah, the AI is really something in MGSV.
A friend of mine and me used a nice technique in Peace Walker to take down multiple guards stealthily: toss a smoke grenade at them, wait for it to explode then consecutive CQC all of them.
We could easily take down a group of 6 guards with no alarms. That was specially useful for the vehicles boss fights.
I tried to do the exact same thing in Ground Zeroes a here’s what happened:
First and foremost the smoke grenades are more realistic in Ground Zeroes therefore they don’t simply explode into a cloud of smoke, they slowly generate smoke around the area they were dropped like the real smoke hand grenades.
So I tossed a smoke grenade to a group of two guards.
My first reaction was utter shock when a small amount of smoke (compared to Peace Walker) was coming out.
Then both guards looked in the direction where the smoke grenade fell, they realised it was a grenade and one of them yells “GRENAAAADE!” and they threw themselves to the ground, lying down and shivering in fear for their lives.
As a stealth technique it was an utter failure but as an experience it was awesome :D.

Edward Wokhands

That’s hilarious! There’s still a sense of comedy in the game which you’d never guess from the graphics. The guards jumping on the floor in a panic at a grenade, expecting an explosion and then they just hear “hissssssssss” instead. I love that game so much. I don’t like to brag B-) but I got close to the world record on the Ground Zeroes mission a while back, I didn’t realize until I saw a WR video online about a month ago. I did it by getting Paz first so it’s just a straight sprint from the start. I was just trying to get S-Rank and didn’t know what time I needed so ended up with 5 minutes something. I might retry it while trying to get all the POWs, I probably won’t get close to 30 min, that sounds like a good time. The time really mounts up when you start running back and forth with those prisoners plus any incapacitated guards start to wake up in the area.

Not long ago a speed run went wrong and the GZ mission actually took me an hour when I got stuck in the POW camp with that spotlight guy looking for me. (I got Paz first again so the guard patrols are a little harder near Chico) He trapped me in the corner and all the guards outside woke up so one was outside the gate. I had no ammo left too! I just had to take the alert and run for it when the chopper arrived. I must have thrown about a thousand magazines, it was just a chorus of “HUH?!”…*click clack*…”HUH?!” for 40 minutes.

I seriously can’t wait to see if Kojima has added anything to the AI in TPP, I’ll literally sink thousands of hours into it if it’s as great as GZ. (Of course it will be better.)

Ninja_Se7eN

I actually never tried to get Paz first, I figured it was more “canon” to get Chico first :P.
Getting close to the world record sounds like an insane time! Well done!

Hahaha, I enjoy doing something similar which is to start tossing empty magazines while I’m riding in the back of the truck. I’m already miles away when they realize what’s going on xD.

I can’t wait either! I’m hoping to get a lot more time for TPP. Upgrading Motherbase will be a huge time sink for me.
I remember literally farming a mission on Peace Walker over and over again just to fulton 2 S-Rank Intel soldiers each time! I ended up having a perfect Intel team xD.
The question is, how does an Intel team with S-rank soldiers only miss the fact that the UN inspection was actually a plan to destroy Motherbase 0.o ???

Edward Wokhands

Damn! Good point… maybe the “inspectors” had 1 more S-Rank intel soldier than you? ;>_> (trying to make it make sense, don’t ruin it!)

Yeah, when I got that time I must have restarted at least 50 times and just made a sprint for it slowly remembering all the soldiers positions. When I’m not speed running I always go for Chico first too yeah. Otherwise how would Boss know Paz isn’t with Chico? You just made me remember, Kojima wanted Paz to originally be a rotting corpse next to Chico when you rescue him so I wonder what the 2nd half of the GZ mission would have been? It’d be cool if the extras in Phantom Pain for those who transfer GZ data is “deleted scenes” where we get to see an alternative vision of the GZ mission. After all I don’t think that’s been done before in a game (Kojima said the extras are something brand new to gaming) where you get to play the “alpha” layout of a level as an extra.

I’ve never got to the point where I’m getting S-Rank soldiers in Peace Walker, I might play it this weekend. The furthest I got was when you’re going “up river” after you first meet Chico. I really need to play that game properly. I have Portable Ops too which I’ve never played due to the camera controls even though Kojima said parts of the story are canon.

Ninja_Se7eN

Either that or Skull Face is just THAT good. That would fit with with the description Ocelot gives us on that mission in Afghanistan where Kaz’s bodyguards were killed.

Really? I didn’t know that. I guess the mission would end just saving Chico and then something bad would happen?
Playing the earlier versions of the game or at least seeing them in video would indeed be a nice extra ;).

I really recommend that you play Peace Walker. I loved playing it with a friend of mine.
Be warned though, I got a bit angry with Paz towards the end of the game.
Also it gets a lot harder to watch motherbase be destroyed at the end of Ground Zeroes after spending so much time and effort developing it.
I played the PS3 version of the game though.

As for Portable Ops, I watched the whole game on YouTube and I didn’t really like it :P.

anonymous

sooo you want them to spend LESS time polishing up TPP so they can add another mission for you on GZ?

ThreeMadFrogs

That’s not what I said. I just said it would be cool to have a new mission to play while we wait.

GO GO GO ! NOT MUCH TIME LEFT ! oh wait.. it still 5months and 3 weeks :’/

Silverius

Don’t you even DARE!

Isaiah

I’ve played Ground Zeroes too many times Kojima! Enough is enough. I’m getting tired of knowing every nook and cranny of Camp Omega. As well as every route for each AI marine. If we get to revisit you better let me in every building, every tent, all dumpsters, all porter potties, I wanna find CP himself and take his aggravating butt out, I want to travel in and out through the jungles of Cuba(even though it’s filled with mines), I want to scale the cliff side as well as swim in the waters around it, I want fulton, I want to actually fight at Motherbase to get Kaz off the platform, I want to drop care packages of more tranq ammo, and I want men with rockets to stop sacrificing themselves to fire upon me when I’m right next to them.

Takezo

yeah I felt the biggest let down in gz was that we couldnt defend motherbase. especially considering the amount of hours i spent building it up in peacewalker.. I also thought it would be cool to have the size of motherbase determined by our peacewalker data file

Shalashaska

Cant you just use the save data ? :/ I played the game to a 100% but my disc broke 2 days ago.. tried to get a new one but came out empty handed after checking like 8 stores.. so does that mean i wont get those cool features unless i get the physical disc again ? :'(
I dont connect my xbox to the internet either so an account is out of the question :'(
Although.. it is sorta stupid that you need the physical disc.. I’m pretty sure other games can just read their company made save data :/

you can rent one just for the transfer, maybe until september GZ might be found at some sale or something… or some stores might bundle their remaining GZ copies with TPP

Shalashaska

I cant find it anywhere :/

Vegas

I have a question… i don’t have money to pre-order TPP now (sad i know), until when Day One edition will be available and how much does it cost?

Shalashaska

You and me both, buddy. I regret missing the CE… it was pretty economical but still.. no money 😛

Jundarr Tromp

Well what you can do is pre-order it from amazon and save up the money, amazon doesn’t required money down on pre-orders and only registers the cash when the game is shipped. If that’s not an option well day one edition as the name implies will be the first set of TPP copies so as long as you buy it at launch you’ll get day one edition

Vegas

Sadly, i live in Brazil so buying a game froma foreign region would be expensive. We have something like eBay here called Mercado Livre (Free Market) but it requires money. Sometimes i wish i lived in the U.S. :c but your comment made me confortable with time, thanks!

Could someone please write all the GZ things that will “transfer” to TPP?
Many thanks.

solidsnack

“To reiterate, this is what you get in The Phantom Pain for transferring your Ground Zeroes save file:
The sneaking suit from Ground Zeroes
Mother Base staff, including any POWs you’ve saved (it’s not specific yet, maybe Kojima?)
The option to revisit Camp Omega (including something ‘cool’ Kojima talked about earlier, something that has never been done before)”

Kmsitu

Thank you for replying although I meant what things we can do in GZ that will cause us to get things in TPP (ie: rescueing gladz and plitz, rescueing POWs…etc). My apologies, english is not my first language.

solidsnack

no need for apologies for your english! and as far as i know you need to complete the ground zeroes mission and have a save file. you can choose to rescue people of interest and POWs also but up to this point i think it’s only confirmed that you will have the POWs you extract. nothing yet about soldiers or glaz/palitz unless anyone can correct me? hope this helps you out.

MichaelPayneV

Awesome.
@Big_Boss88:disqus Also guess what i just found in my store, Yes, i finally have it, Physical.

PS: I do have a confession to make tough, i did play it before, back in December, but hey, i bought it now, so i don’t feel bad about myself anymore.

MichaelPayneV

Fukkin double post.

Big_Boss88

Hey congratulations Michael :D! Very glad you were able to get it :), not sure when I stopped buying physical PC games but it’s nice that they still sell them.

It’s okey ;), I had a feeling you played it in December. I mean how could anyone resist <3. Now only thing missing is awesome TPP box next to it, lets hope they make physical for it possible too.

MichaelPayneV

But i would be an hypocrite to say that feel bad for playing it before buying it, because that would be a lie, i’m glad i Tested the optimization, because if it ran like AC Unity, i wouldn’t have brought GZ not TPP, not today, not ever, but because is well optimized, i decided to support Kojima Prod for showing Ubisoft how is done.

Edward Wokhands

Poor greedy Ubisoft. If only they focused on making art and not money they’d be as respected as the likes of Kojima and Miyamoto.

Ninja_Se7eN

Wow, that’s me on the second screenshot 😛 !

Edward Wokhands

I might buy the physical version too even though I have it on Steam. I still don’t trust completely digital games. I can just imagine Steam going offline one day or removing certain games. They’ve actually removed games from the store that people have already purchased so if they get a new PC or have to reset their machine then they’ve basically payed Steam for nothing. With physical copies that can’t happen. Plus, when it comes to MGS I have to buy everything.

chiffmonkey

You do realise that the physical copies are still Steam right?

Edward Wokhands

Didn’t know that no. So if Steam stopped existing I wouldn’t be able to install it? I guess if it comes to it we always have cracks.

Adstratorz

Is that real!? if so YYYYYYYEEEEESSSSSSSSS!

Hope that TPP has a physical copy too.. so that I don’t have to DL it, very worst internet plan & FUP from where I live.

I have a question Sir..

is the physical copy of the game compatible to Steam?
or does it have it’s own game launcher?

MichaelPayneV

Steam is the only way you can activate the physical version of GZ, so yeah, is compatible.

César H. Sandoval

I’m glad I can still go from PS3 to PS4.

Big_Boss88

Yeah that is great :).

Mini gear

Gonna play at least 2 weeks of tpp before mgo I think, scratch that, 4 weeks

Big_Boss88

And at least 1 month of GZ before TPP release, well that is what I will do :D.

Oh maaan, I would do that also but there’s so many games gotta play now and some coming really soon which will take my time :D. Bloodborne, FF Type-0/FFXV demo. MK10, The Witcher 3 and Batman to name a few ;D… Need to save some money lol.

But GZ I will play much before TPP release, to get hype into maximum XD. Well it already is but need more!

Invader_skoodge

Yup. Hype level is rising.

korruption

The Joy, The Sorrow, The Fear, The Pain, The Fury, The End, and now… The Wait and The Hype. Feels like we’re still playing the saga when we think we aren’t!

Cesare Di Maio

Invader_skoodge

Nice. Have you tried the Clean Kaz with aviators model?

Cesare Di Maio

nope, don’t know how to swap those details yet

Invader_skoodge

the glasses replace of the night-vision goggles.

Sonic 2099 The Hedgehog

You Can Play As Miller?

Invader_skoodge

Yup. You can play as pretty much everybody in Ground Zeroes.

Sonic 2099 The Hedgehog

How?

Invader_skoodge

You have to unpack data_02.g0s. swap snake’s character model and repack it. If you’re not too confident with your modding, you can always head to the MGS Nexus page and they may have an all in one tool to do that for you.

Sonic 2099 The Hedgehog

Pc only or Also Xbox and PS

Invader_skoodge

I’m not sure. It’s PC only I think.

Sonic 2099 The Hedgehog

So It’s a Hack if you Mess with the Game Files

Invader_skoodge

No. It’s called a Mod because you are modifying the game files. In this case swapping models. A hack means that you are fixing the game code like MacGyver with what you have at hand. You should visit the Nexus page to see if you want to start Modding.

Sonic 2099 The Hedgehog

i Know, Forgot the Word

ThreeMadFrogs

Would have been cool if Portable Ops was ported to PSN as well.

dantrr

Only if they add fultons, my god dragging guards was annoying.

Shadow Rex

Well… I bought it on PS3, then PS4 and then PC. Which on should I transfer? hahaha.

MichaelPayneV

PC, is coming only 2 weeks after the console version, and you basically get much better Online on PC.

Mr.Pony

Then the question is, can you handle the two weeks wait to finally play TPP?

MichaelPayneV

Me, i can.

Ninja_Se7eN

I don’t know. All of them?

Steven Hammar

I hope Chico lives

Shalashaska

If this isnt blatantly exposed in the game im sure there will be hints.. perhaps not even hints BUT IM SURE IT’ll be the case.

It’s Confirmed That They Not are the Same Person, The Theory Isn’t True. Saw on one of the Video’s of Yong Yea

Shalashaska

haha no it isnt confirmed.. watch yongs video again, he says it too.. she never specifies it.. plus she is mute, i’d not rely on her having much info.. plus .. anyone can lie.. we’ll just have to wait and see.. im hoping though 🙂

Sonic 2099 The Hedgehog

Oops

Edward Wokhands

Anyone got any theories on what this “never been done before” idea is? What I’ve been hoping, and it sounds (to me at least) like something that Kojima would do, is that we can play as Chico sneaking into the base and we get to see everything that happened to him and Paz. Basically everything we hear in the tapes, imagine if we get to play it all!

MichaelPayneV

I was thinking more at owning Camp Omega, and having it as a Land Mother Base.

korruption

Funny, I was thinking the same thing. I’d like to have the place as my own and just mess around with it!

About being Chico, it’s intriguing but I don’t think I’d want to see some of the things that he was forced to watch during his captivity. O_o;

Invader_skoodge

What if going back to Camp Omega is a mission where you have to find the last of Chico’s tapes where Paz told Skull Face Zero’s location? :O

MichaelPayneV

That would make sense if going to Camp Omega wasn’t a GZ Owner’s Exclusivity.

solidsnack

lol unless they make it so you have to buy ground zeroes to complete the game 😛 – that’s what’s never been done before!

MichaelPayneV

That would be horrible and anti consumer.

LuxAlike

Curious how you’d take a PS3 save file of GZ and carry it over to TPP on PS4…?

I read the same thing few hours ago. BB being silent don’t really bother me that much and imo it makes kinda sense for Big Boss becoming like that, as he becomes like a madman on the path of vengeance. If we think about all the crap he’ll go through after GZ, all the painful stuff etc is the reason he ain’t in a happy mood. Not sure would anyone stay the same. So imo him being the old talkative one would be kinda weird :D.

I honestly think we all should just wait and see in TPP, just how much Big Boss actually talks…but the wait is still long so maybe can’t stop thinking about this stuff lol. People might be misunderstanding what Kojima said and are jumping to huge conclusions here, thinking Big Boss remain 100% silent etc, well that is not the case. But ofc the character might feel different. Also I believe Kojima understands the saga and characters better than anyone else, and I’m glad he tries different things. But this is only my opinion :).

ObsessedGeorge

I’m 100% with you on this. I don’t mind him being less talkative, l’m super excited to see how everything unfolds in the (amazing) story. 😀

Big_Boss88

Aye, and as you sort of said George maybe there is a more secret plot-twisting reason for the quiet BB, but we’ll see in less than 25 weeks :D. It was interesting reading, and I can understand if some ppl are worried but we should trust Kojima ^_^.

Mini gear

Seeing the words ” quiet BB” made me think a odd theory, what if all the buddy’s represent snake in a way, dd’s mother died with loud gunshot, so did bb, I love crazy theory’s

From what we’ve seen in trailers and cutscenes Big Boss is definitely a defined character. He isn’t a silent character either, we have already heard him talk in trailers and cutscenes. Furthermore, he will communicate through non-verbal means and his actions. For example, rubbing ashes over his face also shows his character, without him having to talk.

Kojima already explained that he doesn’t need to talk as much as in, say, MGS1, because they weren’t capable of showing facial expressions there, so he had to convey his feelings and thoughts to the player through words. Now, with the Fox Engine and facial capture, much more can be conveyed through other means.

In any case, we should wait until the game is out because we can hardly judge it now, for all we know we haven’t seen anything yet. Can’t we assume by now, after 27 years of amazing games, that Kojima knows what he is doing?

Big_Boss88

Good posts from you guys :), and you’re absolutely right about all you said Nyx. Especially this “Can’t we assume by now, after 27 years of amazing games, that Kojima knows what he is doing?”

😀 Kojima kaminandesu

Mr.Pony

I can only agree with the article up to a certain point.That point being that Big Boss is a developed character with its own personality. Even though Kojima has said that he will be more silent in TPP, we still don’t know up to what extent that fact goes. Is Big Boss another Gordon Freeman? Or he just gets to be a more quiet character but still with overwhelming charisma everytime he speaks? Losing personality and charisma is a bad thing for Big Boss yes, but it doesn’t mean that he can’t be more silent. We will only be able to judge when we get the game.

Shalashaska

IMO I love the fact that snake is a silent bad ass. I really dont think it will effect the game and i dont understand why people are worried.. the guy lost a arm, lost everything that means the world to him… for him to lose interest to talk is like the story point of Snake turning into a murderous villian.. I HIGHLY THINK that it will slowly change the way we think of him.. rather than just throwing us with another character.. kojima is slowly sliding the characteristics of big boss to the villian we know he is. and to me, being a silent guy is one of that. Plus it isnt like he just never speaks at all.. he does speak.. perhaps the “silence” is just when he is in rage.. like the moment we see him shooting those innocent slaves… he is still talking to those close to him and his comrades
Plus that article is like blah.. I think kojima knows what he is doing.. i want that craze infested Big boss, that sad and teary boss out for revenge rather than a guy who keeps talking 35lines of dialogues every codec call. Im sure he’ll still keep he fun bits but the new snake we’ll see is the type of snake who’s go like “humph…ok” rather than “sure that sounds like fun omg kawaiii so gonna try that when im back! “

Sonic 2099 The Hedgehog

He Will Talk, But Not Much.

Javier Sosa

If I buy tpp with one account and gz with another. Can I use data transfer?
I play with the account of gz.

I’m betting we will get to go to that part that was outside the mission area earlier in Ground Zeroes. Also, I think we’ll get to play as chico when he’s first infiltrating the base to save Paz.

Cobra

Certainly something to keep an eye on!

PrinceHeir

Woo I’m glad the PS3>PS4 save 🙂

What i’m curious is about the region ones? Is it possible to use JPN to US or vice versa? Because my brother played FFXIII US, FFXIII-2 Chinese, LRFFXIII US and both saves were detected and was able to get the classic XIII Lightning costume and XIII-2 costume for Lightning Returns US.

I have the JPN edition and already ordered the JPN Special Edition(no arm), i wonder if i can use my save to the US one as well? Also can you transfer multiple times or is it one time like that Transfarring(Kojima seemed to dropped this) thing from Peace Walker?

korruption

Hmm Kojima wants players to be connected and fight as allies or enemies… Well on that basis, I’ll fire off a crazy guess: what if owners of TPP can enter the games of those who only have GZ (and didn’t disconnect their PS4 from online interactions)? Let’s say you enter the base by chopper fully decked out, capture the player and torture him until he submits, which will then take him to the PS store so he can buy TPP digitally (or physically with a store link) for a slight discount and be set free, or refuse and be left to the capturer’s discretion. >=D

Gawd

On Amazon the Collector’s edition says “sign up to be notified” have they all sold out already?! I checked the day the link went up too and just now…. =(….. (In USA)

Mini gear

im waiting for gstop

ShotgunDakota

Hey guys i was just wondering if anyone would know if there would be any point taking the enemy soldiers and putting them on your helicopter if that would transfer over? Or does it do nothing

So, I got S ranks on all, 100% achievements, and have probably rescued everyone before (I’m actually unsure). Is it everyone you rescue in total, or having rescued everyone from each mission once?

Edit: Ah, just realized that it said, “not specific yet.”

MAG V Supreme

I wouldnt think they would make you do everything like i did but to keep it simple i think its about beating main story and rescues of POW aka yellow suit people only. But to be safe i got all trophies, finished all trail, put every solider on the helicopter, S ranked all missions and if thats not enough i will try to get the mother base app as high up as i can. Tips on the MB would be apreciated. Just seems like alot of Time to put in to a app for no real reward. Unless you guys can shed light?

Xomak

Just curious for the transfer, are we allowed to transfer the GZ save to both a PS3 and PS4 version of TPP, or only one of the two. Interested in knowing as I’m probably gonna pick up both versions.

Also if this is the bonus for having a GZ save, then what’s that DLC code that came on a paper slip with first edition physical copy of GZ for? As I remember them making a big a fuss about only first editions of GZ will have this exclusive DLC.

Invader_skoodge

I was also wondering about that promised DLC for first ed. I bought it digital for ps3 so I don’t have the brochure, but something interesting is that Ground Zeroes is in my “subscriptions” menu of my PSN account. That may be how they know? Or maybe it’s black magic. Classic Kojima.

Jorji Costava

My body is ready.

Neil Gabriel Lobaton

I tested the game with my laptop, I even used low settings.

Arguably the one of the best looking games on low I’ve seen in a LONG time.

Sonic 2099 The Hedgehog

I Comment… For the Hype…

whisperr

I have a disc version of GZ, and pre-ordered digital copy of The Phantom Pain a week ago… I cri evritim

kinbeat

doesn’t work for me. it says “failed to create saved data”
i have a digital ps4 version.

Matt England

right just got mgs 5 and well this message keeps popping up in the prologue (failed to create save data. Exit the game and delete save data and well i do not want to delete a game just when i started playing

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