Han and Strassmam thought to much of nature. They were scared to death of what they had discoved. They did everything possible not to make an atomic bomb. Wish they were living today to see what they would have stopped.

Also there was a U-boat that was headed to Japan with information from the Germans on how to make an atomic bomb.

Han and Strassmam thought to much of nature. They were scared to death of what they had discoved. They did everything possible not to make an atomic bomb. Wish they were living today to see what they would have stopped.

Also there was a U-boat that was headed to Japan with information from the Germans on how to make an atomic bomb.

That was U234. It was loaded with uranium. It also had at least one German nuclear scientist and two Japanese officers.

My extremely liberal English teacher in college once was talking about WWII (from a WWII poem) and said that if we had not won (Americans) we'd all be speaking German.

I politely raised my hand (As I'd encourage any WNists to do - be polite otherwise prepare to be labelled a racist) and said "Wouldn't we all be speaking Japanese? It was the Japanese who attacked us, and it was the Japanese who we were constantly afraid would invade us?"

There IS a quote by a US military man of some importance that said, after Pearl Harbor that if the Japanese decided to invade the West Coast they could not be stopped by the US military until they reached Ohio.

She didn't have a coherent response IMO.

Yeah, I hear that stupid rhetorical "what if" quote all the time. It's as if people forgot we were also fighting the Italians and the Japanese...Duh!!

Always blaming the EVIL WHITE MAN.The EVIL GERMANS.
It's as if they actually believe that those damn evil Germans would have invaded NYC or Boston!!! Anyhow, good answer to her question!!!

Of course then the other day, Obama said that "the Japanese dropped a bomb on Pearl Harbor."

A "bomb." Not bombs!!!
Well, that just reconfirmed my belief that liberals know nothing about history at all.

Being nice has always been the downfall of our people. If Hitler had not been a damned Anglophile and been so bent on acting chivalrous with them, he would have sent Guderian in with his Panzers to stop the retreat at Dunkirk. The war would have been over pretty quickly at that point.

So, if this had happened, and the result had been German victory or armistice with favorable terms in late summer or early fall of 1940, the war would have been over for the time being, and Germany could have gone on consolidating its power in the Balkans, North Africa, and the Middle East. I believe the Tripartite Pact should have been avoided at this time, at least to the point of excluding Japan from the agreement. Japan never brought any pressure to bear upon the Soviet Union, and were completely worthless as an ally. If Japan had not been Germany's ally, Germany could have denounced the attack on Pearl Harbor, and whatever his personal feelings, FDR could not have countenanced an aggressive attitude toward a great power who had denounced his enemy in time of war. The United States would have been completely occupied on the other side of the planet, would have had no lend-lease agreements set up with the Soviets because Britain had been defeated so quickly, and the result would have been an isolated Soviet Union. Under these conditions, war with Russia could have waited until 1942, and Germany would have had vast resources available for this campaign.

As to atomic energy and weapon manufacture, Heisenberg's delaying tactic would have been pointless at this juncture, because Germany would have faced no prospect of defeat. The war against the Soviets should have been won by 1944 in this scenario.

As to what might have happened after the war, it's hard to guess. Germany would have controlled Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. Jews would probably have been more fervent in their attempt to take over the United States government and marshal the media into a propaganda war against the German Empire, and they may indeed have succeeded in provoking WW3, but this may also have resulted in them overplaying their hand, and causing retaliation against them in the U.S. Hitler's health was also a factor here. If indeed he had had Parkinson's disease, the leadership in Germany might have been in some doubt, but there were many great figures there who could have taken over. Had it been Himmler, the racial policies would have been secure, but as a leader I don't know. The best, in my estimation, would have probably been Albert Speer. He was only 40 in 1945, and a pragmatic genius. He might have been the only high ranking official Hitler really liked. With his organizational skills, he reformed Germany's war production to the extent that it continued to increase year after year despite massive and devastating allied bombing. Under the circumstances of this scenario, had he been made Hitler's successor, this sort of astute mastery of resources would have continued, and Germany would have become a great superpower indeed.

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When a brainwashed multicultist claims "they're not all that bad," remember that just because every hailstone doesn't hit you in the head, there's no excuse for standing in the storm.

As Christ Himself said of the evil pharisees, whose spiritual descendants are the talmudic jews:

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44

All those incredible jerk bosses, treacherous back-stabbers and other sociopaths that curse our society would have been weeded out of the population by now.

The most brilliant scientists would be getting large amounts of research money (which is usually diverted by Jewish professors, who never seem to accomplish anything).

The most brilliant people would likely be cloned so that societal progress could be greatly accelerated.

Most likely we'd have sophisticated robots by now doing a wide variety of work. We'd have successful fusion energy so that electricity would be free. We'd also have flying cars and cures for almost every disease known to man.

Jews are like a monkey wrench to human progress. They steal almost all of society's wealth for themselves (all those lawyers "earing" $800 or more per hour) and they block fields of research like eugenics, which might identify the Jews as the evil, amoral tribe that they are.

On May 9, 1945, several days after Germany surrendered to the Allies, a German U-Boat, number U-234, pulled into the Portsmouth Naval Base in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.The German crew, aware that the war was over, promptly surrendered themselves and their boat. What makes this event even more extraordinary was the cargo they were carrying: 10 cases of uranium oxide.According to later testimony, the U-boat left Germany several weeks before en-route to Japan. In addition to the precious cargo, there were several Japanese envoys onboard assigned to accompany the shipment. When it became obvious to the German High Command that defeat was inevitable, it was decided that this last desperate act might greatly assist the Japanese in the defense of their homeland. Japan had been working on a nuclear weapon, although technically far behind the American effort, and it was thought that they could use the scare uranium oxide.During the voyage, it was learned via radio that Germany had surrendered and that U-boats should surrender at the nearest port. There was much dissention amongst the crew as to whether they should surrender. Eventually, the decision was made. They would proceed to the Naval Base at Portsmouth, NH. The Japanese envoys onboard, unwilling to surrender themselves to the Americans, committed suicide.

On May 9, 1945, several days after Germany surrendered to the Allies, a German U-Boat, number U-234, pulled into the Portsmouth Naval Base in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.The German crew, aware that the war was over, promptly surrendered themselves and their boat. What makes this event even more extraordinary was the cargo they were carrying: 10 cases of uranium oxide.According to later testimony, the U-boat left Germany several weeks before en-route to Japan. In addition to the precious cargo, there were several Japanese envoys onboard assigned to accompany the shipment. When it became obvious to the German High Command that defeat was inevitable, it was decided that this last desperate act might greatly assist the Japanese in the defense of their homeland. Japan had been working on a nuclear weapon, although technically far behind the American effort, and it was thought that they could use the scare uranium oxide.During the voyage, it was learned via radio that Germany had surrendered and that U-boats should surrender at the nearest port. There was much dissention amongst the crew as to whether they should surrender. Eventually, the decision was made. They would proceed to the Naval Base at Portsmouth, NH. The Japanese envoys onboard, unwilling to surrender themselves to the Americans, committed suicide.

I wonder what would happened if U234 never surendered...

From what I have been reading, that was the Uranium that would have been used in the first bomb, "Little Boy," dropped on Hiroshima, and was used in an untested design called a "Gun Type" assembly, because they didn't have enough material to perform a test.

The "Implosion Type" assembly method, in which they used Plutonium, was what was used in the Trinity test and the "Fat Man" bomb used at Nagasaki.

To me it is interesting to note the dates of these developments:

Trinity pre-test (108 tons TNT): May 7, 1945

Germany Officially Surrenders: May 7/8, 1945

U-234 surrenders at sea: May 14, 1945

Battle of Poljana - The Last European Battle of WWII: May 15, 1945

Trinity Test: July 13, 1945

Potsdam Conference: July 16, 1945 - August 2, 1945

First bomb used against Hiroshima: August 6, 1945

Second bomb used against Nagasaki: August 9, 1945

Japan officially surrenders: September 2, 1945

First Soviet nuclear bomb test, "Joe-1": August 29, 1949

US ends war against Germany: October 19, 1951

US detonates first fusion bomb "Mike": November 1, 1952

Soviet Union detonates first fusion bomb "Joe-4: August 12, 1953

Soviet Union ends war against Germany: 1955

Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany: March 15, 1991

I mean what were the direct results of his war? An instant vilification of anything to do with nationalism. The spread of communism throughout Europe. The death of MILLIONS of innocent white eastern Europeans. The enactment of a PC culture throughout the entire west that lingers with us to this day. I think it's safe to assume that if Hitler and his Nazi party never reared their ugly head, the power structures of Europe wouldn't have changed so drastically from what they were to what they are today.

And if they would have won? I think they would've been crushed by their own ideological stringency within a few decades. I mean, with no more Jews, Gypsies, or Slavs left, who do you blame your problems on? And with no wars left to fight, what do you rally the populace behind? Germans would have grown restless living under a totalitarian regime - as have many other groups of people living under such overbearing governments.

I mean what were the direct results of his war? An instant vilification of anything to do with nationalism. The spread of communism throughout Europe. The death of MILLIONS of innocent white eastern Europeans. The enactment of a PC culture throughout the entire west that lingers with us to this day. I think it's safe to assume that if Hitler and his Nazi party never reared their ugly head, the power structures of Europe wouldn't have changed so drastically from what they were to what they are today.