We're probably going to have to do really awful to get a top 3 pick. Although Chicago and Portland have had some nice luck the past two years...

Coop

02-20-2009, 06:33 PM

Definately top 5

I don't see it. There are still too many really bad teams we would have to catch first. I'm gonna say 7-8. Getting to #6 would probably be our best case scenario. We're about 8-9 games ahead of the worst 5 teams.

Edit: Shade already covered it..I didnt read the whole thread.

BRushWithDeath

02-20-2009, 06:43 PM

We're probably going to have to do really awful to get a top 3 pick. Although Chicago and Portland have had some nice luck the past two years...

Yeah. "Luck."

BPump33

02-20-2009, 06:43 PM

Realistically, I don't see us getting any higher than #6. The "top" 5 teams have quite a lead on us.

Is this coming from Shade or NPH? I'm much more likely to take NPH's word. :D

Shade

02-20-2009, 06:46 PM

Is this coming from Shade or NPH? I'm much more likely to take NPH's word. :D

It was written under NPH's supervision. It is What NPH Would Do.

RomanGabriel

02-20-2009, 06:48 PM

8 or 9. There's way too many bad teams in the West.

BPump33

02-20-2009, 06:50 PM

It was written under NPH's supervision. It is What NPH Would Do.

Completely off topic, but when he had the brand in the brothel I think I almost p*ssed my pants....

As far as our lottery pick goes, we'll probably catch fire without Danny or Dun and fall one game short of the playoffs and end up somewhere between 11 and 13.....

Wouldn't that fit our season thus far? :blush:

beast23

02-20-2009, 07:00 PM

Based on present record and the fact that we have Granger and DunJr out, and considering Foster's back and Quis' health history, I believe we will continue to lose ground in the standings and gain ground on a higher draft selection.

Best possible - 5th

Worst possible - 8th

Hoping that ball bounces our way - 1st, 2nd or 3rd

Will Galen

02-20-2009, 07:31 PM

Now that Granger is injured and Dunleavy as well, what pick in the lottery do you think the Pacers will get?

#8

Hicks

02-20-2009, 07:58 PM

6 to 10 sounds about right to me. I'd feel good about anything in the single digits, though.

Mourning

02-20-2009, 08:49 PM

I would say #7 or #8.

jeffg-body

02-20-2009, 08:57 PM

Best #4

Worst #11

Anthem

02-20-2009, 09:17 PM

We'll finish at #8, but we'll get a top-3 pick.

Reading this thread is odd... it's like people forgot there was a lottery.

sloopjohnb

02-20-2009, 10:49 PM

I'm just hoping for a number one pick thanks to the lottery. We've turned a corner. We deserve it. I think we'll finish between 6-9.

duke dynamite

02-21-2009, 12:34 AM

Is this coming from Shade or NPH? I'm much more likely to take NPH's word. :D

It was written under NPH's supervision. It is What NPH Would Do.
I would rather it be under the alter-ego Barney Stinson. Which I have now claimed.

BlueNGold

02-21-2009, 12:49 AM

#7. Just having a shot at one of the top 5 picks will make the draft far more interesting.

jeffg-body

02-21-2009, 01:38 AM

My wife (who never careas about sports in general) just walked by and said, "Well what if they trade for another 1st round lottery pick and our 1st round pick in the lottery and we end up with two in the top five the way those ping pong balls can go" ? I told her that if that ever happens I'd take the family to the Bahamas for the summer.

flox

02-21-2009, 02:14 AM

none. we'll magically make the playoffs now.

Pacersfan46

02-21-2009, 02:19 AM

Holy crap, it seems like a lot of people have no idea how the lottery works

-- Steve --

Wage

02-21-2009, 04:48 AM

Threeve.

DGPR

02-21-2009, 05:11 AM

At best first, but probably sixth. Brandon Jennings is projected to go sixth right now, and that wouldn't be too bad of a pick up.

Peter_sixtyftsixin

02-21-2009, 05:38 AM

Threeve.

Winner Winner, Chicken Dinner

cramerica

02-21-2009, 07:15 AM

Holy crap, it seems like a lot of people have no idea how the lottery works

-- Steve --
I think most know. I see people just taking guesses and are just talking about it.

danman

02-21-2009, 09:08 AM

I think most know. I see people just taking guesses and are just talking about it.

The Clipper fanbase is the acknowledged authority on lottery rules.

Major Cold

02-21-2009, 11:11 AM

8- And we have to hear how McBob didn't play enough to get us a higher pick till the draft.

jhondog28

02-21-2009, 12:04 PM

We're probably going to have to do really awful to get a top 3 pick. Although Chicago and Portland have had some nice luck the past two years...

Yea but Stern likes Chicago and Portland. He will make sure the Pacers balls are just a little bit bigger so they cannot get sucked out of their hole.

BRushWithDeath

02-21-2009, 01:16 PM

8- And we have to hear how McBob didn't play enough to get us a higher pick till the draft.

That assumes we'd be a worse team if he played more.

BillS

02-21-2009, 01:52 PM

One higher than what we need to make everyone shut up about not tanking the season.

Pacersfan46

02-21-2009, 04:32 PM

I think most know. I see people just taking guesses and are just talking about it.

Yes, but given the lottery and how it works, some of the answers are a near impossibility. In other words, I'm 99% sure some of the answers are from people who have no clue.

-- Steve --

Naptown_Seth

02-21-2009, 04:41 PM

Realistically, I don't see us getting any higher than #6. The "top" 5 teams have quite a lead on us.

Number of wins:
Kings - 11
Wizards - 12
Clippers - 13
Thunder - 13
Grizzlies - 15
Timberwolves - 18
Warriors - 19
Raptors - 21
Pacers - 22
Knicks - 22
Exactly. You've got 30 games to go and a list of teams that might not go 10-20 in that span. Bad as it might get, the Pacers aren't going 0-30. You are looking at a max "gain" of 5 games I'd guess. I mean just look at the Last 10 records of all the worst teams. Not a lot of 8-2 in that group.

So it's MAYBE you pass the T'Woves, Warriors and Raps, ending at 6th. My guess is 7th and obviously not winning the lottery.

Then the Pacers get either Henderson, Blair or Teague. Cross your fingers for 38 wins next year and ride out the final dreadful year of rebuild before good stuff starts to pan out and fall into place (contracts getting short, youth getting better).

I wonder if Jennings could fall to 7th being out of mind and producing low numbers in Europe.

Naptown_Seth

02-21-2009, 04:43 PM

That assumes we'd be a worse team if he played more.
Which they wouldn't.

Irony of all this is that the team is likely to be better right now getting Roy, Rush and McBob more playing time.

Naptown_Seth

02-21-2009, 04:47 PM

Holy crap, it seems like a lot of people have no idea how the lottery works

-- Steve --
Why do you say this? I didn't see one aspect wrong in the thread.

You have fourteen LOTTERY teams, teams with chances at the top 3 picks. If no team behind you gets one of those picks then you stay in the same draft spot as before. People call being drafted in the top 14 to be a lottery pick.

Some people have mentioned that the Pacers could win the lottery, most don't think so. What's the issue?

Naptown_Seth

02-21-2009, 04:49 PM

He will make sure the Pacers balls are just a little bit bigger so they cannot get sucked out of their hole.
Well, it's just sitting on the tee waiting to take this thread into "Thread of the Year" status. Who wants to start?

I did put my mood warning on cheeky.

Will Galen

02-21-2009, 05:03 PM

I would rather it be under the alter-ego Barney Stinson. Which I have now claimed.

Don't you have to preface alter-ego's with Rebo? I think that's an unwritten rule here on Pacers Digest. (grin)

Will Galen

02-21-2009, 05:05 PM

Yea but Stern likes Chicago and Portland. He will make sure the Pacers balls are just a little bit bigger so they cannot get sucked out of their hole.

I don't know what everyone else thinks, but that sounds dirty to me!

Jose Slaughter

02-21-2009, 05:16 PM

Well, it's just sitting on the tee waiting to take this thread into "Thread of the Year" status. Who wants to start?

I did put my mood warning on cheeky.

The possibilities are endless but the visual is too much for me to post something. :-o :eek:

count55

02-21-2009, 05:25 PM

Yea but Stern likes Chicago and Portland. He will make sure the Pacers balls are just a little bit bigger so they cannot get sucked out of their hole.

Usually, you have to pay extra for that.

BPump33

02-21-2009, 05:26 PM

Why do you say this? I didn't see one aspect wrong in the thread.

You have fourteen LOTTERY teams, teams with chances at the top 3 picks. If no team behind you gets one of those picks then you stay in the same draft spot as before. People call being drafted in the top 14 to be a lottery pick.

Some people have mentioned that the Pacers could win the lottery, most don't think so. What's the issue?

I don't see the issue either. Either you get in the top three or you end up where you deserve for the most part. I just have a feeling this team is going to get hot. Travis Diener FTW!!!

BRushWithDeath

02-21-2009, 06:12 PM

Which they wouldn't.

Irony of all this is that the team is likely to be better right now getting Roy, Rush and McBob more playing time.

I completely and totally agree. And I've been saying as such for a long time.

BRushWithDeath

02-21-2009, 06:13 PM

Exactly. You've got 30 games to go and a list of teams that might not go 10-20 in that span. Bad as it might get, the Pacers aren't going 0-30. You are looking at a max "gain" of 5 games I'd guess. I mean just look at the Last 10 records of all the worst teams. Not a lot of 8-2 in that group.

So it's MAYBE you pass the T'Woves, Warriors and Raps, ending at 6th. My guess is 7th and obviously not winning the lottery.

Then the Pacers get either Henderson, Blair or Teague. Cross your fingers for 38 wins next year and ride out the final dreadful year of rebuild before good stuff starts to pan out and fall into place (contracts getting short, youth getting better).

I wonder if Jennings could fall to 7th being out of mind and producing low numbers in Europe.

I would love, LOVE, to get Gerald Henderson. He is the type of player who I think will make a better pro than college player. And he is a very good college player.

Jonathan

02-22-2009, 08:03 PM

I do not care I would love to have 6-8 and be able to snag Thabeet just to trade his rights. I Believe this is the draft for the G position. Holiday, Jennings, Warren take a chance on one of them.

Shade

02-23-2009, 01:40 AM

I think we've played ourselves out of the #6 pick now. I'm thinking #9 or so at this point.

I'm really starting to want Jordan Hill. Wonder where he'll end up going.

BRushWithDeath

02-23-2009, 12:22 PM

I would love, LOVE, to get Gerald Henderson. He is the type of player who I think will make a better pro than college player. And he is a very good college player.

He just absolutely dominated Wake Forest last night.

Mourning

02-23-2009, 12:51 PM

My wife (who never careas about sports in general) just walked by and said, "Well what if they trade for another 1st round lottery pick and our 1st round pick in the lottery and we end up with two in the top five the way those ping pong balls can go" ? I told her that if that ever happens I'd take the family to the Bahamas for the summer.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I'm sure Chicago will get the first or second pick again, they almost always seem to be so lucky.

CableKC

02-23-2009, 02:50 PM

I want the 6th to 8th pick.......the more lottery balls...the better.....but I'm guessing that we and every other team around us is playing.....we will bet the 9th or 10th spot......right where we always end up....in no-man's land.

But to be fair....given the way this draft is going.....if you don't land a top 3 pick, there doesn't appear to be a sure-fire top 10 pick that would make a huge impact. IF the Pacers scouts do their job.....it's entirely possible that the team can land a player at the 9th to 14th spot that is as good as one that is in the 4th to 8th spots.

Jonathan

02-24-2009, 09:21 PM

I want the 6th to 8th pick.......the more lottery balls...the better.....but I'm guessing that we and every other team around us is playing.....we will bet the 9th or 10th spot......right where we always end up....in no-man's land.

But to be fair....given the way this draft is going.....if you don't land a top 3 pick, there doesn't appear to be a sure-fire top 10 pick that would make a huge impact. IF the Pacers scouts do their job.....it's entirely possible that the team can land a player at the 9th to 14th spot that is as good as one that is in the 4th to 8th spots.

Do you think if we land a higher pick we could move Tinsley + the higher pick for a filler & lower pick to another team.

Pacersfan46

02-25-2009, 12:20 AM

Do you think if we land a higher pick we could move Tinsley + the higher pick for a filler & lower pick to another team.