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if you dont know already, swim is prescribed the half mg klonopins. swim found where his mom hides them and took 8 mg, which is a lot of pills. swim did this because he has to give a report in front of class and wants to have zero anxiety. swim wants to know is it dangerous to be taking so many pills even though theyre only half mgs?

"Zero anxiety?" He'll be lucky if he can keep his bloody eyes open, this will be far more noticeable to his classmates than his anxiety would have been...trust me? Why take pills when you have no awareness of their effects?

Ok, to answer the question...if SWIY has used these before I doubt he'll come to any long term harm. He will be fuckin' tired, believe it? Just make sure he has someone with him...ok?

Look, I have to say, some situations are supposed to make us a little anxious, edgy, it's called healthy competition. You can't go through life dealing with everything in a, pill induced, calm and euphoric way, cos it's this anxiety that works for you. It gives you that "edge." What happens when you go for your first job interview and there are 100 applicants besides you? Maybe it would be a good idea to look at some relaxation techniques, see what other options are available, rather than benzo's, cos if you rely on these you will become addicted. And that anxiety you feel now will be miniscule by comparison.

Benzodiazepines have a very high overdose threshold when used by themselves and not combined with alcohol, opiates, or other CNS depressants. SWIY should be OK, but SWIY will likely be extremely sleepy during your report. Write down on a piece of paper what SWIY took, and the dosage, and hand it to a friend at SWIY's school, so that if something did happen, the EMS personnel would know how to respond.

That said, this was certainly not a good idea, and not something SWIY should repeat. If SWIY needs this medication to work for him in the long run, taking incredibly high doses will give SWIY a large tolerance and will mean that it will no longer work at the normally prescribed dosage. Benzos are dangerous drugs, especially if combined with any other depressants. Also, withdrawal from benzos can be fatal.

SWIM would seriously discourage SWIY from doing this again. If the overdose wasn't truly about the report, but was a suicide attempt or a cry for help, SWIY needs to talk to someone. SWIM might have sounded harsh here, but if SWIY is having problems and needs someone to talk to, SWIM would be glad to talk.

Please be more careful in the future, if SWIY had done this with almost any other medication, SWIY would be in serious trouble right now. As it is, if SWIY starts to have problems, do not hesitate to call 911 and tell them what SWIY took.

swim did it because he's extremely nervous about giving his report. swim use to take 8 mgs all the time from someone who had a script so its not like swims not use to it but its not gonna be an every day thing. swim still needs his pills for sleep and to feel refreshed in the morning.

Ok, so SWIY is nervous, but taking large doses of benzo's only deals with the symptom, not the cause. He needs to take a closer look at what causes the anxiety, see if he can't find a less harmful way to reduce it.

Cos all you're doing at the moment is setting yourself up for addiction, and by that time, very few natural options will be available, see where I'm going with this?

Swim took a high dose of klonopins and wound up in county jail with not much memory of what happened. Taking high doses of benzos loses you all of your inhibitions so you're likely to do something youll regret and will embarass you later, whcih will only add to your anxiety

SWIM ended up acting like an ass: falling over, tripping over things, talking loudly, snorting any pill he could get his hand on (including Vicodin- yes, with the APAP), and didn't remember it at all. He had 4mg of clonazepam. And, he is prescribed 1mg b.i.d., so his tolerance is more than SWIY's. Be careful for goodness' sake.

8 mg of clonazepam is a huge doses from someone with low tolerance. It will make one feel as if he took 1 - 2 Xanax bars (2mg alprazolam tablets) except for like 8 hours straight. SWIM would probably take 2 - 4 mg but take it 2 hours before the class because thats the peak time for relaxation and what not. Even 4 mg is going to feel like one has taken 2mg of alprazolam so its risky if he is in front of a class. SWIM says go with 2mg and if he has taken that much and been normal then take 4 mg if that somehow makes him feel nothing then 6 then 8. But one would have to wait an hour or 2 to realize the clonazepam has kicked in. Don't abuse these use them for there purpose and don't be stealing from a bottle of yours or your moms that is hidden because SWIM did the same shit then went through rehab and now SWIM can't get shit as far as meds go he is going to start a 1mg a day clonazepam regimen but be careful.

SWIM doesn't think SWIY could stay awake very well on 8mg, if SWIY has low tolerance, let alone go to school, SWIY would be acting as if SWIY was very high on something and everyone would be able to tell. SWIM would take a 0.5 under the tongue wait 15 minutes then see how SWIM was before taking another. Then SWIM would leave the rest at home so SWIM wouldn't take more, because SWIY might find it too fun, or SWIY might think he really wasn't high enough and was actually making an ass out of him/herself.

swim did it because he's extremely nervous about giving his report. swim use to take 8 mgs all the time from someone who had a script so its not like swims not use to it but its not gonna be an every day thing. swim still needs his pills for sleep and to feel refreshed in the morning.

i can totally understand where your coming from.

i know many people say,"sort the cause of the problem dont mask the symptoms etc",but thats a lot easier said than done and when in a state of severe anxiety/nervousness medication (if available) seems like the only (albeit easy) answer just to get you through what could turn out to be a traumatic experience

by the sounds of things swim already has experience and a tolerance to clonazepam anyway,just like a friend i know,who can easily take a whole blister of 10 x 2mg clonazepam and be fine,go to a meeting,speak to the bank manager,go out in to the city centre etc (all things that would usually make him nervous as hell!) my friend doensnt feel tired just very slightly calm,in fact my friend seems to think out of all benzos clonazepam are best in these situations where you have to talk,appear,deal with the general public without appearing to be intoxicated.

very mellow,slight almost unoticable calming effect.

regardless of what the benzos tables say (clonazepam/alprazolam) being the most potent anxiolytics, the physical effects seem to be a lot less noticeable to others than many other (less potent) benzos

for example if your were to be taking equivilant doses of diazepam you probably would even be able to stand up let alone deliver any kind of speech..maybe just some incoherent rabblings.

anyway sounds like swim has a high tolerance to benzos so abreak maybe in order so that you can benefity from the threrapeutic uses for whic h they were designed.

good luck

btw a friend of a friend today tried etizolam 1mg - etilaam for the first time,he has taken 10mg over the course of 4 hours..starting at a 2mg dose then 1hr 45 mins later a 4mg dose and then another 1hr 50mins later another 4mg dose.

last dose was taken around 40 minutes ago...reports very little effects,just very subtle effects,my firiend of a friend has a high tolerance to most benzos,would this effect his tolerance do the effect of etizolam?

if you dont know already, swim is prescribed the half mg klonopins. swim found where his mom hides them and took 8 mg, which is a lot of pills. swim did this because he has to give a report in front of class and wants to have zero anxiety. swim wants to know is it dangerous to be taking so many pills even though theyre only half mgs?

It's not going to kill you, but as a central nervous depressant it's not a healthy dosage at all, and you should be careful. As others have said, keep someone informed in case there is an emergency.

Honestly, speaking from personal experience of someone who uses them a few time a weeks for anxiety, you could take the .5mg or 1mg and be relaxed enough for your presentation without any negative side-effects.

Benzodiazepines are strongdrugs, and you shouldn't take them in excess without prior knowledge of the effects they'll have on you. You'll probably make it through your presentation extremely confused (and obviously intoxicated), and then just pass out when you get home.

Swim minimum dose of clonazepam is 6 mg , he would prefer 8, but swim likes what he calls benzo salads , like 6+ pills each of them being a differnet benzo . Swim feels he gets the most smacked out this way but builds tolerance , swim would not advise this type of consumption , swim might put a benzo Salad experience report up soon

I was doing lot of benzos and just wait to the point where you will be fucked.

NOT THE BEST sollution for long term - take it from somebody who ended up almost dead in ER.And than in Detox.3 months since I was ok.3 fucking months of pure WAR .

SWIM uses to take 100mg Diazepam for example with weed,Clonazepam and Subs combos,Xanax and pot - with Xanax he suddenly show up at the airport ,and told the people there that he want to go ANYWHERE.Than tottaly out of his mind take a bus to Amsterdam where he did a Xanax and weed and booze ..haha....after 4 days -5 meybe he show up back home .Sleep at the airport etc.Good old Xanax.

you said "swim used to to take 8mg" ... keywords "used to" ... your tolerance isnt gonna be where it was at when you were taking them alot , and then you were taking them in a rec. setting to get high

and you wanna take your rec. high dosage from when you were regularly using them and at school no less ....

weigh it out homie

1. do you report and seem a little nervous while doing it and 10 mins goes by and its over

2. take 8 mgs of Kpins , deliver you report looking & sounding like you got of the short yellow bus and went to the wrong class (which is best case scenario)
(worst case) get up to do your report visible fucked up and audibly slurring , FAIL and get sent to office possibly getting suspended

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swervediggz added 3 Minutes and 11 Seconds later...

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Originally Posted by keith1569

klonopin--i need about 8 to 12mg to really feel much from it...it was ssuch a slow acting benzo for me

ya he doesn't need to "feel" or "get high" , he needs to have lessened anxiety ... hes gonna be at school remember ... he doesnt need 8mg of clonaz. , thats the equiv. of taking 4 zanbars ... would you take 4 bars at schools (you might , i have ) but it damn sure wasnt the day i had to stand up in front of my class

Last edited by swervediggz; 09-10-2012 at 22:16.
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Clonazepam is considered, as mentioned above, probably THE most strongest of the Benzodiazepines. It takes about a half hour or so to peak. It is widely used as a "stand alone" recreational drug. Also, it is one of the longest acting benzos (not as long as diazepam), therefore, probably a bad choice for a "high" for the new.

I have notice a lot of posts about the un -initiated (to benzos) querying about using benzos in many forms and mixed with other CNS depressants.

There are so many excellent and detailed articles on drugs like Meth, DXM and others. Who can be requested to do one such exercise on Benzos? Benzo mixed with other drugs is one of the (second?) leading causes of ER visitations. Lots of which have resulted in deaths especially in remote ER's not affiliated to large hospitals and those that do not have artificial life support infrastructure.

Since year 2002 Doctors in the USA have become increasingly miserly in prescribing Narcotic Pain killers. And cannabis does not seem to satisfy as a stand alone system of safe recreation. More and more people are combining it with anything from, Narcs, Various forms of Amphetamines (of which the Levo-Amphetamine is most deadly) to Benzos to baking soda and whatever else they can get.
Recently I saw a print of a memo being circulated in NDB(?) advising the use of Hydroxyzine, Mirtazapine and similar non "recreation-able" drugs to replace benzos. The statistics in that says 7 out of 10 "patients" suffer addiction or come back for refills. I am told that the worst, most painful detox/withdrawal is associated with ALCOHOL and the second worst (and longest) is attributed to Benzodiazepines. Compared to these two , Narcotic/even Heroin withdrawal seems a lark
Funnily I used to be prescribed 3x0.5 mg Alprazolam for over five years.I did not have much problems giving it up, prolly because I was also being prescribed high quantities of Narcotic painkillers and simple chance made me quit the benzo first (with hardly any problems at all) because, I guess the narcs are CNS depressants too and act as an anxiolytic. But THAT was an accident and like many many many sane people have noted here, Mixing Narcotics/opioids/ Hypnotics like ambien/ Antiemetics like Phenergan and even Hydroxyzine may cause dangerous situations; a bad trip, at best, death or wishing one's dead, at worst..

I am less than 100lbs and was prescribed 6mgs of clonazepam a day and it was my first script of clonazepam but was on .5 mg lorazepam before my Dr made the switch. Clonazepam is pretty much the same as lorazepam except lorazepam leaves the body faster. 6 mgs a day did make me yawn quite a bit but other than that I felt great.