Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

The Chud part is unknown...I certainly wasn't thinking of him as a serious candidate, but I'll withhold judgment.

Norv as offensive coordinator, if that's what happens - that doesn't bother me. He has always had a rep as a terrific coordinator who just isn't a head coach. Hopefully Chud doesn't earn himself a similar rep.

I'm not going to start complaining about Chud as HC until he gives a reason to. There just wasn't anyone else left that I was excited enough about to be disappointed with this hire.

---"It was great training being there. They do it with character and intelligence. They run that organization the right way. They build through the draft. They're patient. It's just the right way to do it. It was a tremendous opportunity to be with them." Jimmy Haslam on why he'd model the Browns after the Steelers, 10/16/12

bookelly wrote:Looks like it's 3-4. Great fucking Christ on a pogo stick. I beginning to think that our new owner is a complete fucking moron.

Where did you hear that this means a switch to a 3-4?

---"It was great training being there. They do it with character and intelligence. They run that organization the right way. They build through the draft. They're patient. It's just the right way to do it. It was a tremendous opportunity to be with them." Jimmy Haslam on why he'd model the Browns after the Steelers, 10/16/12

Childress's rep as a coordinator doesn't touch Norv's. Childress never even called his own plays before he was a head coach. Norv as an offensive coordinator just doesn't seem like a bad thing at all to me.

---"It was great training being there. They do it with character and intelligence. They run that organization the right way. They build through the draft. They're patient. It's just the right way to do it. It was a tremendous opportunity to be with them." Jimmy Haslam on why he'd model the Browns after the Steelers, 10/16/12

Just saw that from Mary Kay. Of course, she's been wrong about nearly everything she's reported throughout this search. Hopefully she's wrong again, because a switch to a 3-4 would be absolute stupidity.

Grossi gets a good line in every once in a while. I liked this one:

@TonyGrossi: #Browns gave Chudzinski 4yr extension after big 2007 season. They were paying him through 2011. Now he's back.

---"It was great training being there. They do it with character and intelligence. They run that organization the right way. They build through the draft. They're patient. It's just the right way to do it. It was a tremendous opportunity to be with them." Jimmy Haslam on why he'd model the Browns after the Steelers, 10/16/12

The point is the guy hasn't accomplished anything as an OC worth a damn since the early 90's. To trumpet him as some saving measure is really grasping at a lot of *IF I WISH REAL HARD IT'LL COME TRUE!!!!!*

One of my professors at NYU's claim to fame was directing CHUD Part 2.

Wonder if he had anything to do with this.

It's a meh hire, but they all were. I was starting to warm on Zim, even though this team desperately needs a keen offensive mind and Jauron has shown they can be decent on defense even with amediocre DC.

Chud headed the only Cleveland O that finished above 33rd, has had decent O's in SD and CAR. Norv comes in as the OC, Norv is actually GOOD as OC. So I see Norv as a plus.

Still, didn't see this one coming any more than the Shur hire. Not sure what the rush was. Don't see how he could be worse than Shur though.

Madre Hill, Superstar wrote:A motivated coach who's shown he can fire more than two neurons at once and knows how to throw downfield. Norv in at OC. This... might not entirely suck.

As the initial surprise wears off - surprise which comes as much from the fact that they hired Chud so quickly as opposed to just being shocked that it was him - I'm feeling the same way. Far from a sure thing, but there wasn't a sure thing out there. I feel better about this hire than I ever felt about Shurmur. Although the thought of switching to a 3-4 definitely is a red flag. Hopefully that was just Mary Kay speculation that doesn't have any real base in fact.

---"It was great training being there. They do it with character and intelligence. They run that organization the right way. They build through the draft. They're patient. It's just the right way to do it. It was a tremendous opportunity to be with them." Jimmy Haslam on why he'd model the Browns after the Steelers, 10/16/12

Ray Farmer from KC as GM. New guy really likes going after the low hanging fruit. At least he's better than Lombardi, but watch they'll make him Personel Director.

Can we get Jammies back please? This is just such a horrible, horrible start for the new owner. Next thing you know, he'll be fucking with the uniforms. Expect to see a flying" J " on the helmet boys. 'Cause the hick train has arrived.

Anyone saying this is worse that what we had wasn't paying attention the past two years.

I'm encouraged by the fact that we hired an experienced offensive coach who is immediately bringing in an experienced offensive coordinator. Much, much different than Paddycakes bringing Chilly in a year and a half too late and then still calling his own plays.

3-4 vs 4-3? A little early in the game to say that. Especially when MKC is the "source."

Chud was unexpected, and he probably wasn't the first choice on their list, but he's far from the worst option that they interviewed. I'm not printing playoff tickets or anything, but I'm not ready to Occupy Berea either. The overly negative reaction here and on the twitter was pretty much inevitable regardless of the hire. So everyone get it out, hit a pillow and get it over with.

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Did they just hire a guy as HC that they fired as OC 4 years ago because of his offensive coaching background?

In a nutshell is that what this organization just did? And yeah, I know four years ago was 6 regimes ago and it's hard to keep track, but will a historian tell me they hired as HC a guy they fired four years ago as OC (but who they paid through last year)?

peeker643 wrote:Did they just hire a guy as HC that they fired as OC 4 years ago because of his offensive coaching background?

In a nutshell is that what this organization just did? And yeah, I know four years ago was 6 regimes ago and it's hard to keep track, but will a historian tell me they hired as HC a guy they fired four years ago as OC (but who they paid through last year)?