The wiki has been a part of the community for several years now and it has accumulated quite a bit of information since it was started. The problem is we had been adding pages directly to the wiki without regard for organization.

Much has been discussed on this topic however I think I might have come up with a solution to this and hopefully provide everyone with an easier to use wiki! Most of these changes involve just moving content to the right places, removing content that is old. Namespaces are key to this as we can categorize content into locations, the only issue will be internal links will be [[namespace:category:page]]

The only thing i dont like about a restructuring is that it will break all existing links from external pages. Personally i think we should enforce namespaces for all /new/ content, but be very careful with reorganizing old content. I for one know that i have linked to the function legend page from a lot of places, on xelerus and the forums.

alterecco wrote:The only thing i dont like about a restructuring is that it will break all existing links from external pages. Personally i think we should enforce namespaces for all /new/ content, but be very careful with reorganizing old content. I for one know that i have linked to the function legend page from a lot of places, on xelerus and the forums.

totally agree

Example :
While I had the game i never thought of the forums until I met the Mule : it was Google that led me here to learn what the Mule was ( it was stalking my ship and I wanted to know why, it would not fight and always stopped when i did as if i could not see it... )

i still get links for unused forums and posts concerning the game, its a traffic driver and many things in " old content" are valuable to people that don't know exactly what they are trying to describe to Google and it is the " old content" that has the matches to the strange ways people can attempt to communicate......

you do not currently have a post that calls the Mule a Platform or describes it as an auton/ ship that follows the player: it is an "old content" post

Flying Irresponsibly In Eridani......

I don't like to kill pirates in cold blood ..I do it.. but I don't like it..

alterecco wrote:The only thing i dont like about a restructuring is that it will break all existing links from external pages. Personally i think we should enforce namespaces for all /new/ content, but be very careful with reorganizing old content. I for one know that i have linked to the function legend page from a lot of places, on xelerus and the forums.

I'm willing to update urls and leave backlinks.
There is a plugin that I can install to help with this so it should not be too bad!

Yeah. Some of the guides to things are a bit old and haven't been updated along with the game. Restructuring is a pain, but in the long run....probably worth it. We can also make sure there's no unneeded redundant pages (see what I did there?).

Shrike wrote:Yeah. Some of the guides to things are a bit old and haven't been updated along with the game. Restructuring is a pain, but in the long run....probably worth it. We can also make sure there's no unneeded redundant pages (see what I did there?).

The "recommended mods" section on the Wiki could use an update. Quite a few obsolete, unfinished and godmods on there. I'd be up for (re)writing a page on the (updated) Xelerus mod categories and what they mean.

This would also help with sending aspiring mod-users on their way towards the downloads they're looking for. Right now, installing some of the "recommended mods" is guaranteed to crash your game.

I'd like to think that I've got a pretty good grasp on which mods are (un)balanced by now; which ones play nice with each other and which ones conflict. Think I've probably downloaded about 3/4ths of the mods on Xelerus.de; installed and used about half of those after checking out the XML files.

Maybe I could add a list of community members who have given blanket permission to use their mods in other mod projects, without having to ask them first (but may/may not require being credited with the original mods). I distinctly remember reading several such statements while trawling through the forums.
I could also explain the procedure for giving proper credit to mod makers.

*edit* slightly edited for clarity

“Normal people believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. (Modders) believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.” -Scott Adams

Does the wiki have the Structured Data Plugin installed? http://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:data (alternatively the Tags plugin could probably be used too). Something like that would allow the pages to be organised into categories etc. and index tables/lists generated automatically similar to the function list on xelerus.

It should make maintaining the XML elements, events, functions, item and ship databases much easier.

For example, the events could be reorganised as one event per page e.g. wiki/events/OnDestroy. Each event would use the Data / Tag plugin to list which types this event is called for (e.g. Station, Ship, Weapon device etc.) Then the current events page and XML pages could use the plugin to list the usable events. This would solve the problem with some events not being listed on the main events page e.g. OnDamageXXX events under weapon_devices