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Bucs At Cowboys, Open Thread

September 23rd, 2012

OK boys and girls, here’s your weekly playpen to hash things bout during a Bucs game. As always, please behave and while you cannot post links to pirated feeds of games, you may e-mail them among yourselves. Joe hopes you enjoy the game.

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I’ve got a good feeling about this game. The cowboys have had our number as of late, but IF we can get some pressure on Romo today, I think the Bucs win this one pulling away….27-14 Bucs!! I also think Dallas Clark has a big day in Dallas and Martin gets his first 100yd. Rushing day! GO BUCS!!!

Hope we pick on moclay all day. The cowgirls have a way of throwing pie in their own faces the last 10 years, so with this being the home opener of 2012, what better time or place to showcase that!! LOL!! Thats just the feeling I have. Romo will either choke or be on….I hope he chokes.

Bucs will beat down the over-rated Cowboys 31-20. We beat the over-rated Panthers, pushed the very good Giants team to the final seconds. This week we start putting it all together in all 3 phases, play a full 60 minutes and don’t give the Boys a chance to come back.

Video ads here are going off, w/o you clicking ON them!
I am streaming the game as I post here, and it gets annoying because the ads here are drowning out the game.
Is it just me, or has anyone else experienced this ?

I’ll go on record and say there is no more grace with Free. It’s this season or we are looking for another answer. Our defense is doing its job, at some point out offense had to respond. And I’m not talking about when it’s too late and most of the game is gone and done with.

Josh SUCKS! I’ve been a Freeman guy to this point but I’m beginning to believe he’s as good as he’s ever gonna be. Doesn’t’ help that the entire offense can’t get out of it’s own way. I’m loving this “toes on the line” discipline! NOT!

There are a few things that I would like to address from this game. First of all, Blount is electric and his dissapearance has made this offense one dimensional. This leads me to my second and most painful point of the game, Josh Freeman may not be the answer we all have naively believed. He’s loveable, yes. Before I pass judgement on him I have to see more of Mike Sullivan’s offense to see if its the system or the man with the throws. All I know is Josh’s confidence seems to be low and I have a pain in my stomach everytime he throws the ball, it’s either genius, an INT or a pass to the flats on some short fullback pass junk…. All of these things can be fixed, but we look just as predictable as last year. DOUGH MARTIN IS NOT RAY RICE (yet), the bruiser Blount needs to change this up. I’m sick of hearing about our dynamic backfield and change of pace backs that compliment eachother so well. They don’t compliment sh*t if there’s only one in for 90%+ of the snaps. Let the dog out of the doghouse… Joe please explain this.

Oh yeah, this defensive front seven is for real. Way to be Schiano and Billy Sher, our secondaries are as bi-polar as it gets. Getting burned or burning, “thats our defense”. Way to swarm to the ball everyone, except for that pass to Jones on 3rd and long when 3 bucs let him by to get stopped for 4th and 1.

THOUGHTS?! LET’s GO BUCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smash these Cowboys at home, no one cares about a team that almost won against the Giants and the Cowboys at home. Talk them down and come and punch them in the face this second half.

Not saying anything about Schiano, love him so far. It’s the players I’m ticked off at. Schiano isn’t the one committing bone-head penalties! Feet need to be planted firmly up some butts at halftime. Defense deserves much better in this game.

Unfortunately much like last weeek, our defense while good is on the field too long. Our offense S**Ks and the defense is having to work harder as a result. I’m just hoping that because of the new coach and new players on offense, it is taking some time to get the offense on the same page. Perhaps this is partly due to the constant dropping then picking up the same players a few weeks later.

Everything starts with Freeman
I am tired of him staring down receivers and
Holding on to the ball too long
First year in this offense or not
he has been a starter TOO LONG to be making these types of errors.

While Freeman has sucked, he is only24. He’s had numerous coaching changes and limited training last year due to the labor dispute. Let’s not run him out of town yet. I can’t imagine our backup doing much better.

Am i the only person here who doesn’t understand why blount isnt getting the ball? Im started to think our new coach is a liar. Blount seems just fine. So its not an injury issue. He promised us two backs pounding the ball. Yet martin is getting nothing. Yet no blount after 14 yards on two carries. I don’t get it.

That drive was ALL Freeman
and that is not good.
First down Intentional Grounding
Second Down Bad Pass that V-Jax did not bail him out of this time
Third Down Bad Pass behind V-Jax.
Punt = ZERO Points off an excellent opportunity
What a Waste

I kinda figured we weren’t going to win (I had this as a loss on to our 6-10 season) but I’d like to see a week to week improvement. We’re all over the freaking place. I have no idea who we are and what we can do. We have one of the most expensive offenses in the league and we look atrocious. This is embarrassing man. At least we had the excuse of not having any talent offensively.

Thank goodness the defense showed up to play…too bad the second fumble wasn’t called correctly or they would have realized a defensive score. The fact that we have to hope for the defense to score is terrible. Held them to three.that’s awesome…..Now that it’s in the 4th quarter maybe we’ll see the offense figure it out. Not

Here come the Homers lol…
I forgot cause we aren’t expected to win we should be ok with ish football lol.
My B my B. Fact through 8 quarters if football our team has hung with the best of them in 7 quarters of them. So in this game we should and won’t expect less just cause some “experts” say so.
-Dumb ish Benn taking that kickoff out

I thought the last play was on Clark myself but generally he looks rushed & confused. Obviously we can’t see the routes develop downfield but when he actually gets the ball out it’s nowhere near the receiver. We look like we don’t even know the plays.

Pressured???
This is Football
Our Offensive Line???
There is plenty of time for a Pro QB to make a decent throw.
EVERY QB in the league gets hit almost EVERY Play
No excuse on Freeman’splay this year
How about giving Dallas’ DLine some credit too.
Our OLine is holding up well against them
OLINE is not struggling but not looking AS BAD as #5
That is why you call a three step drop
How can you Blame everybody on the oline except for the guy who can’t pull the trigger on a three step drop.
Talk about an AGENDA

and you people need to stop ripping Free. He made the throws when the plays were called last week. I have a feeling that he has no say about anything in this offense. Ditch Sully and let the offense get into a groove

it sounds like our D has gotten the memo this is the NFL and that is short for “Not For Long” as Coach Glanville used to say if you do not get your head out of your arse… lets hope the O gets this memo as well.

were not a superbowl team, but were making progress folks. another draft and another offseason and were going to be doing some spanking out there. might even finish this season on an uptick. just sit back and enjoy an actual football team

I love our QB. Hate our play calls. You don’t run the goddamn ball when your backed up in the 3rd/4th quarter. Our players are more than capable of winning games. They just need to be put in the right place. This game is all on the calls.

Six Quarters in a row that the BUCS could not maintain an offensive drive.
Maybe the reason the Offensive play calling sucks so bad is that it has to be vanilla’d down to compensate for the bad QB Play.

But those of us watching Football for 50 years know what we are looking at when we see football. This was one of the most inept QB outcomes in the last 5 years of any QB….6/20…39 yards…1 TD, 1 Int. Yikes. Anyone know what the QB rating is on that one?

Based upon what I’ve seen the last two weeks, it appears the only solution might be to fire Dom and hope for an experienced personnel guy that can weed out the guys on this team that don’t belong in the league.

It looks obvious today that Josh Freeman is just not a starting caliber NFL QB. He’s had one good year in his career and it looks like defenses have found out what he can and can’t do. Time to find a new starting QB………Barkley????

Every position group on offense was inept today. Freeman looked confused. Our receivers couldn’t get open. Doug had no holes. Nobody could block anybody. The play calling was inept…scratch that…BEYOND inept…

Simply put, the most embarrassing, pathetic performance from a Bucs’ offense in decades. Sullivan has called 3 lousy games. Freeman looks lost. The WRs, as has been the case since the franchise’s inception, cannot beat man/press coverage. Martin has no room to run. The o-line has been turn-style bad. The film on this game will be vomit inducing. Nothing downfield. Really, it has been building to this bad. Open up the effing playbook or bench Freeman if you don’t think he can make the right decisions. I know this, Freeman isn’t the same QB he was during his rookie year on 2010. The guy is a statue.

Too bad, because the defense played its best game in recent memory. Way to rebound from last week. Nice to see you Gerald!!!

If you’re giving up on Freeman after 3 weeks in a new offense, you’re a moron. Stop.

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/signed

Well, I like how we went after the kneel down 3 times. Schiano showed the nation media and the other teams that he doesn’t give a rip what they think. And the Cowboys were ready for it…so no risk of injury.

Horribly called offensive game plan. Brilliant defensive game plan. Can we ever get the two together??? I don’t know if Freeman is that bad or the play calling is that bad or just a combination of the two but that was another game we should have won but this time it was the offense instead of the defense. Frustrating…. Still light years better than last year’s team but frustrating.

Just curious…how many years did Alex Smith go before he got good? What held him back? (aside from injuries?) Alternating OCs.

I am not worried about Freeman. I am not worried (yet) about Sullivan. I AM worried about our offensive line. To me they had no more than 10 good plays in them, and nearly half of them were in the last drive. Just ask Martin and Blount.

Pete how can you not be worried about Sully’s calls? They were almost mind boggling in the 4th quarter. We had no progress with the run all day. Yet we try and run the ball on first down in the first quarter when were behind. Do these coaches have no faith in freeman? I’m still mindblown by the play calls in the 2nd half. Oh and I’m sure Sully had something to do with Ware jumping on board. The guy who handed the Boys a TD. Great job. Get rid of that MF

You are what your record says you are….unless we are talking “moral victories”. We in Tampa are used to them, except for one magical year. At the end of the year, we will know if this team is better. We do know last year the team quit on Raheem.

Romo came damn close to fumbling on the second kneel-down…he was bobbling the ball all the way down. It’s ridiculous that we even have to resort to such shenanigans.

Listen, as much as I’m seriously questioning the competence of Mike Sullivan as a coordinator, I have to give some credit to Sheridan for learning from last week and putting his players in a position be be successful. There were some stellar individual performances across the DL. I hope Clayborne’s knee injury isn’t serious. He was nasty out there today.

I hope between now and next week we sort out the play-calling, the WR position and tell our QB to step INTO the pocket and move his feet. His regression (even in a new system) is terrifying. The guy has lost his mojo. I thought in 09-10 he was on his way to becoming a McNair-like QB. Instead, the kid has the legs of Leaf, vision of Testaverde and mind of Akili Smith.

I find it difficult to believe the offense only has the capability of marginally executing very basic plays. Something is terribly wrong with this whole picture.

Last week I thought it was just conservative play calling. This week I am beginning to believe they may not have but a few plays in their playbook. It has to be the most unimaginative offense I’ve seen in a very long time.

Sadly, today’s performance will not do much for ticket sales next week.

We drafted him to be a good QB for a defensive team. When he was drafted, that WAS the plan.

Personally, I think by the end of this season he will be playing lights out. I didn’t think we would win this game. I AM glad we kept it close.

The reason everyone here is stressed out is because all week they were saying how we would beat the Cowboys. Anyone with half a brain would have seen the odds were against that. But no. Everyone ignored the odds and then got mad when they were disappointed.

Now…get read for a real WIN next week. Both the defense AND the offense will play well, and these wishy-washy fans will change their tunes…yet again.

Pete how can you not be worried about Sully’s calls? They were almost mind boggling in the 4th quarter. We had no progress with the run all day. Yet we try and run the ball on first down in the first quarter when were behind. Do these coaches have no faith in freeman? I’m still mindblown by the play calls in the 2nd half. Oh and I’m sure Sully had something to do with Ware jumping on board. The guy who handed the Boys a TD. Great job. Get rid of that MF

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I see plenty of faults in the play calling…but I’m not worried because I realize Sullivan is a first time OC developing his first playbook. Patience is required. He’ll learn from game to game. I highly doubt the Giants will be giving him much advice though.

Next week we may win because we are playing a relatively lousy team. So that is where it is…we might beat lousy teams, but can just stay in the ballpark with good teams. Isn’t that where we were last year, until the team tanked it?

we had the personnel to get this game down as a big ol’ W. It was the play calling and and a huge F-up by DJ Ware that set it up for failure. I say to hell with the saying “no moral victories”. We need to find the weak links and put their asses on the curb. ditch sully, ditch ware, get blunt back in play, and let our O roll. Our D is excellent. Keep it on track .

Im saying Ware dropped the easy completion which led to a Cowgirls TD. If you want to talk offense, lets talk about the play calling. Even the intellectually disabled announcers couldnt believe the play calls. How can you put this all on Freeman? Are you going to put the last week loss on him too? I doubt it. Find the cancer at it’s source and cut it out.