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Re: Newtown, Ct school shooting in progress.

Ugh I'm just going to duck out of the thread, but let me say guys, don't turn shooting up schoolchildren immediately into hyperparanoia about gun control. That's the most tactless ugly face of the gun nut crowd and it's just without class to go "hey a classroom was shot up, now those damn people are gonig to try to take our guns." A little perspective please.

Re: Newtown, Ct school shooting in progress.

I feel so bad for the loved ones and especially for the parents of the children who died. It is an unimaginable horror..to lose a child. The feeling of helplessness and fear of not being able to protect an innocent child is really hard to see in someone's eyes after they have lost theirs...I know a handful of people who have lost their children and it is heartbreaking to watch them suffer...I can never find any words to say to them because words seem so inadequate.

The gunman took so much more than lives today...he instilled fear in millions of parents and children. The damage he did is impossible to measure.

Re: Newtown, Ct school shooting in progress.

Originally Posted by xbuzzerx

Ugh I'm just going to duck out of the thread, but let me say guys, don't turn shooting up schoolchildren immediately into hyperparanoia about gun control. That's the most tactless ugly face of the gun nut crowd and it's just without class to go "hey a classroom was shot up, now those damn people are gonig to try to take our guns." A little perspective please.

The people who are in favor of gun control are the ones who brought up the whole mention of gun control in the first place.

Re: Newtown, Ct school shooting in progress.

No -- about 1 a.m. Connecticut time, someone in China attacked school children with a knife, sending many to the hospital. I haven't seen any word on fatalities.

Is this "end of the world" madness???

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

Re: Newtown, Ct school shooting in progress.

And the NRA position is that automatics should be allowed only as they are: by a federal license. We do think, though, that not allowing anyone who can qualify for a license to buy one as he pleases (and register it) is oppressive.

Originally Posted by AngolaZee

NRA Statement : If all those kids were carrying guns this would not have happened

False. Maybe lies like that give you a feeling of righteousness, but they don't help the situation.

The NRA position of kids of the ages in this instance is simple: "Don't touch! Leave the area! Tell a responsible adult!"

Originally Posted by Ninja108

Sadly that statement is already out there,along with the fct that if only prayer was back in school blah blah blah

I suppose that it's theoretically possible for a prayer to have the result of stopping a bullet in flight, but I suspect it would require some exceptional circumstances for God to intervene like that.

Idiots.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

Re: Newtown, Ct school shooting in progress.

What a extreme society if everyone has to carry a gun for it to be safe.

The police have no responsibility to protect me, which makes it my job.

Give me a society with no violent crime, and there'll be no need for carrying to be safe.

Originally Posted by Lestatnj

La Pierre & the NRA cronies need an encounter with someone like this.

Automatic weapons....NOT NEEDED in a civilized society.

You're addressing your fantasies, not the NRA.

OTOH I agree that LaPierre and his faction of the board have a problem.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

Re: Newtown, Ct school shooting in progress.

Hardly. But he might blame the House Republicans for opposing the legislation that would have provided some five million new jobs.

Or he might mention the "end of the world" crap that makes people figure there's nothing to lose.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

Banning guns would easily solve the problem. For one thing we wouldn't have anymore kids accidentally shooting themselves or their friends in their own homes.

It wouldn't stop all shootings but if it prevented one then it would be worth it.

The Aurora shooter bought all his ammunition online, I wouldn't be surprised if this shooter picked his families gun cabinet lock (or just opened it). His parents probably bought the guns at wal-mart.

Maybe we need a guard with a gun in all schools. Or better security. If there's one place people shouldn't be afraid to go it's school.

Kids have died violently precisely because of "gun control" laws, because those laws give the bad guy the advantage.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

Re: Newtown, Ct school shooting in progress.

Originally Posted by Rolyo85

I truly wish this guy would suffer some horrifyingly painful fatal internal bleeding one day... This is unspeakable...

That's disgusting. He really ought to read his Bible: God doesn't pay much attention to the government when His people call for help. So this guy would have to claim that no one at that school was a good Christian.

Moron. If the Bible makes anything clear about history, it's that God only intervenes at critical points to achieve a particular goal. Ever since the Resurrection, the only target date on the calendar is the End, and that's coming no matter what; ergo, expecting God to intervene on these things is foolish.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

Re: Newtown, Ct school shooting in progress.

It's all just such a distant reality for me.

Even the police doesn't carry guns here... resulting in almost all criminals / gangs not having them either.

But perhaps it's true that it's been that way too long in the US for it to be possible to turn it back. I still don't think it's inappropriate to discuss the gun culture / gun laws when these things happen. Not any more than discussing global warming when hurricanes happen.

Re: Newtown, Ct school shooting in progress.

ABC just aired a cop saying that the shooter stole his brother's ID. So the earlier report of identity had the last name right but not the first -- I think the first report said "Ryan", but this says it was "Adam".

Weird.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "