Few years back, the trend of oppressing the dissenting voices was started by few of moderators. And thats the trend that continues today. However to the credit of Trace and Cyn, i find they are defintely giving little more space to such voices then their counterparts did few years ago. But this place still has one of the highest degree of moderation I have ever seen in a internet forum in my 10 years of internet experience. May be you have the reasons, valid as well. But i am sure you can cut little slack there. It is not that only GM cares to take action against cheaters for benefit of kids (in case of abuses) or fair players. Other games do that as well, both profit making and not for profit - free games. Then why is it that only GM needs such draconian standards of moderations? Mind you , i am not blaming Cyn or Trace here, because such standards were implemented well before they came on roll.

Now coming to numbers in game. Most of the best of old lot of player have moved out of game. May be they have moved away from gaming/internet. But on an average, there used to be net monthly addition of about 5 really good players 2 years back (by this i am referring to players who had ability to reach top 20). Now i dont see addition, rather its getting reduced to such a point that we dont get big 5p games any more (that being one reason why you dont see me in games these days). I remember we had some 25 (+/- 2 , i dont remember exact figures) in one of the tournies. Why is it that now only 8-10 people register for it? Sometimes not even 4. As jarod had posted elsewhere, tournies was a meeting place for veterans of this game, who didnt play regularly, but wanted to stay around the game. By reducing prizes you people killed that community spirit. And i would have understood reduction of prizes if there were no casino, unrated , challenge blah blah blah stuff by which you can earn much more points (even by purposely losing a game, thereby indulging in unfair practices) easily. So how did it benefit by killing high prizes tournies is beyond my comprehension.

Oh and politics. I was asked to post against Trace and Cyn with a promise to support me for modship. Even though i believe quite a lot of their decisions are not correct, i would not wish to start another political game here. Do it in your own turf. Dont drag in other players. Can we for once and all kill this dirty games which were started by Husky (he had lured people into supporting him with promise of modship). He is gone for good and its about time we kill his old dirty ways of managing affairs here. And those who came to me asking for posts against Trace, you should have remembered that i have never done such things, not even when i needed support for myself, you were at a wrong door , my friend.

I dont know, may be if moderation levels are lowered, easy points off unrated games ended, tournies restarted , i and many other old players would be back here. May be i am asking for a moon?

nice to see you active unfortunately under these circumstances, you know I had that same thought some weeks back with these casino and unrated challenges. I find it hard trying to explain my thoughts on these matters but I am glad they are no longer opened

the thought of having tourneys up and running is definitely a good way to get more people interested in the game again it would be nice to have the monthly tourneys up and running jees I miss the old days when we all looked forward to the end of the month I even remember the time there was so many in the lobby we almost crashed the server because of the amount of people logging in to either participate or just hang out

these days its pretty hard to get a high point game due to the numbers, your right about the amount of old players who don't come in as often I'm kinda guilty of this too I would normally play this game 2-3 months of the year and then lose interest well thats seems to be the way things work out for me. hopefully now I can be more responsible and be of benefit to the community

I swore to myself just after husky left that I would never get involved with forum politics again, it just got out of control and man I swear the mood swings I was getting after responding/defending myself to the GM people at the time was really affecting me in real life so for my own sanity I banned myself from it. prolly the best move I ever did at that time

well I ain't gonna be posting any more negative crap any more I just hope the others in here will be up for that challenge as well and maybe/hopefully we can start getting back to the good old GM spirit thing and start enjoying each other company again (touch wood)

I dont know, may be if moderation levels are lowered, easy points off unrated games ended, tournies restarted , i and many other old players would be back here.

jaord_b wrote:

well I ain't gonna be posting any more negative crap any more I just hope the others in here will be up for that challenge as well and maybe/hopefully we can start getting back to the good old GM spirit thing and start enjoying each other company again (touch wood)

i think you both sums it up nicely & i totally agree with you both

without getting into further arguments & pointing fingers on others i will request all should come forward & start a new begning & make this a happy place_________________
No expectations, no disappointments.

Thank you all for your posts. I have been here for a long time and miss the spirit that use to exist. The unrated games will not be reopened. Tourneys will return and the "modding" will be mainly for cheaters, abusers, spammers and the such.
All the drama needs to go away. GM is a free internet game that is very enjoyable and addicting. We need to go back to the forum being about the game and enjoyment instead of drama and bickering.
Hopefully we can turn a new page, move forward and all enjoy coming here._________________CYN

I agree with all Cyn , Only one thing I will sugest here . We must finish not only unrated games but we must finish all that casino and 2vs2 games for points .They can play them , I dont mind , but not for points . Sinse we started with them , we lose the old fashion tournires and game . There where many players who , Becouse of that , didnt play our old good monopoly game , rated and 2-5 players . Thats my opinion and I think opinion of many other players .

I agree with all Cyn , Only one thing I will sugest here . We must finish not only unrated games but we must finish all that casino and 2vs2 games for points .They can play them , I dont mind , but not for points . Sinse we started with them , we lose the old fashion tournires and game . There where many players who , Becouse of that , didnt play our old good monopoly game , rated and 2-5 players . Thats my opinion and I think opinion of many other players .

For once i have to agree with bez (for a change may be ), earlier the game returns to old format , the faster you will see the return. . But bez without offending you, i feel you were also in the group that killed tournies with reasonably high points (which were much less when compared to today's casino ... challenge and all those blah blah s*it).

Also to rectify the abnormal points gain, i would suggest a some sort of monthly point cut of say 25k points in top 25 accounts (which i think would hit my top account too, so dont crap around saying its the owner's point and all ! ) . But that would bring some sort of balance in points system.

You are totaly wrong Fort . I played one tour in begining and never again and i never did not participate in decisions for tour pricez .I was against high pricez in tours and the reason is your second part of the post . In two words ...Greedy for points , and trying in any way to get on top of the list .
And HHHfan . GM is not dead and never will be if we stop attack moderators . I dont like unrated games and I said a hundred times why I dont like them . And HHHfun . I didnt open unrated games nor i didnt closed them , nor I will reopen them . And tell me one thing . Do you play unrated games for fun or for points ? Yesterday and day before there was 30 players on GM and the number will grow day after day . And you know why . Becouse there are no more groups of 7-8 players who played only unrated - casino and 2vs2 game . They didnt play months ( as long as there was unrated games ) this old good rated monopoly game .

BTW bez i got most of my points from 4/5 in the lobby to get to 50k+ then won 2p league loosing 1 in 10 i think (lord knows how because i'm not that good at it) lost a big 2p with jonjonny then won a big 2v2 then a massive 4p. allround player _________________Ex-Moderator
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

The unrated games including casino and 2x2 will not be reopened so there is not sense getting in disagreements over it.
HHHfan the forum is not longer a place to start trouble or problems. We are taking it back to fun and happy comments about things. The complaint section is for cheaters to be penalized and bad behavior to be reported (action taken if necessary)
There will no longer be any pot shots or degrading anyone here allowed. HHHfan you dont even play anymore and if closing the unrated means you wont be back, sorry to hear that but it is what it is.
Attacking mods or any players will be penalized, there have been months of dismay on here and enough is enough. Anyone may still voice their opinion in the appropriate section, however they must be done with respect._________________CYN