I don't believe for a second he came back to the Cavs, and thought they wouldn't get Kevin Love. I'm sure there was some agreement that they would trade Wiggins for a superstar to help him and Kyrie. He was staying in a weak conference and he knew he was getting Love, or some other superstar in a trade for Wiggins. Lebron is cerebral. He doesn't do things without knowing what the end result will be.

Yes, he's a front runner. When the going gets tough, he leaves. And he will prove that for the 3rd time this off-season._________________Dominating every day.

I'm starting to lean towards Lebron going to the Rockets. If he stays in the east he could lose the to Celtics every year. Lebron going West would be a breathe of fresh air tho he would be joining a loaded team. Still don't think they can beat a healthy GSW.

I don't see any team taking both Anderson and Gordon. Maybe one team takes either one with future draft picks going there way. If not, someone would have to take a massive paycut. Maybe Lebron is that gutless.

They can't keep D'Antoni if he comes either. Chances are he will get fired after this series if they get swept or lose in 5. They will have to find a puppet for Lebron. Don't see any real coaches available.

It saddens me that we're probably desperate enough to max LeBron for the attention but he's not worth it. LeBron-ball did work but now he's older and still wants to get his instead of doing what's best for the team. I can only hope we don't sign him.

if we sign LBJ, it's not for attention. we get plenty of that.

i think he's at the point of his career where perhaps he'd be open to play off ball a bit more and giving his body a break. he's obviously not getting that in cleveland.

think about who's going to stop him when he curls, nobody. and most times he will end up taking 2 defenders with him leaving an open shooter.

i'm not sure signing lebron is the best move, but to say we're doing it for attention is far from accurate.

Hard for me to believe that the guy who has played with Kyrie and Wade and still needed to get his wants to play off-ball. Obviously, we're probably the best option for his ego because nobody here including PG13 can threaten him for being the #1 option. Philly on the other hand has Simmons and Embiid. Embiid will probably be a monster next year as well.

you didn't address your reasoning on how we would be signing LBJ for attention.

on the on-ball/off-ball issue. Kyrie handled the ball quite a bit as well during is CLE days, and that allowed LBJ to take plays off. He no longer has that luxury.

when he played with Wade, they started off by essentially sharing possessions, but that didn't work out well and LBJ became the primary guy, with Wade being a complementary ball handler.

if he comes here, we will have zo, BI, and most importantly an offensive scheme that isn't a stand and watch system. lazy basketball = ISO basketball with no off ball movement. that won't happen here i'm guessing.

I don't see any other reason to bring him here besides the fact that he's box-office. That's just my opinion.

LeBron-ball works until it doesn't, and I don't think it's the way to go right now. Everything you said is nice but I'm skeptical that happens. We also have young coach that doesn't necessarily have a lot pedigree to dictate things his way. LeBron wants to win but he wants all the credit with it. I think that's pretty obvious. I think he tanked the 2011 series because Wade was gonna win Finals MVP - it's still mind-boggling for him to take himself out of series like that. If he's here then I'll root him and the Lakers but I'd rather not have him.

I'd advise anyone who's going back and forth with this man to end the discussion after this ridiculous comment._________________“Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
- John Piper

I'm starting to lean towards Lebron going to the Rockets. If he stays in the east he could lose the to Celtics every year. Lebron going West would be a breathe of fresh air tho he would be joining a loaded team. Still don't think they can beat a healthy GSW.

I don't see any team taking both Anderson and Gordon. Maybe one team takes either one with future draft picks going there way. If not, someone would have to take a massive paycut. Maybe Lebron is that gutless.

They can't keep D'Antoni if he comes either. Chances are he will get fired after this series if they get swept or lose in 5. They will have to find a puppet for Lebron. Don't see any real coaches available.

I don’t see big difference between picking Houston or LA, playing with CP3 and Harden is just as enticing as playing with PG and Jules or PG and Kawhi... we have so much flexibility to convince LeBron to join that I’m surprised you would think he’s leaning toward the Rockets..

Was reading the Cavs forum (again lol) and this one dude says he knows someone in the Lebron camp. He said that Lebron to the Lakers is likely and mentioned that his team has moved out here. He also mentioned that to Lebron, it's all about Branding at this point. Another person replied by saying that he wouldn't be surprised that the Clarkson/Nance trade was made by Lebron to help the Lakers gain future capspace. For me personally, that's kinda far fetched. But if true, that's some Keyser Söze type (bleep) right there.

It saddens me that we're probably desperate enough to max LeBron for the attention but he's not worth it. LeBron-ball did work but now he's older and still wants to get his instead of doing what's best for the team. I can only hope we don't sign him.

if we sign LBJ, it's not for attention. we get plenty of that.

i think he's at the point of his career where perhaps he'd be open to play off ball a bit more and giving his body a break. he's obviously not getting that in cleveland.

think about who's going to stop him when he curls, nobody. and most times he will end up taking 2 defenders with him leaving an open shooter.

i'm not sure signing lebron is the best move, but to say we're doing it for attention is far from accurate.

Hard for me to believe that the guy who has played with Kyrie and Wade and still needed to get his wants to play off-ball. Obviously, we're probably the best option for his ego because nobody here including PG13 can threaten him for being the #1 option. Philly on the other hand has Simmons and Embiid. Embiid will probably be a monster next year as well.

you didn't address your reasoning on how we would be signing LBJ for attention.

on the on-ball/off-ball issue. Kyrie handled the ball quite a bit as well during is CLE days, and that allowed LBJ to take plays off. He no longer has that luxury.

when he played with Wade, they started off by essentially sharing possessions, but that didn't work out well and LBJ became the primary guy, with Wade being a complementary ball handler.

if he comes here, we will have zo, BI, and most importantly an offensive scheme that isn't a stand and watch system. lazy basketball = ISO basketball with no off ball movement. that won't happen here i'm guessing.

I don't see any other reason to bring him here besides the fact that he's box-office. That's just my opinion.

LeBron-ball works until it doesn't, and I don't think it's the way to go right now. Everything you said is nice but I'm skeptical that happens. We also have young coach that doesn't necessarily have a lot pedigree to dictate things his way. LeBron wants to win but he wants all the credit with it. I think that's pretty obvious. I think he tanked the 2011 series because Wade was gonna win Finals MVP - it's still mind-boggling for him to take himself out of series like that. If he's here then I'll root him and the Lakers but I'd rather not have him.

I'd advise anyone who's going back and forth with this man to end the discussion after this ridiculous comment.

It's plausible. I don't think that's the reason but LeBron simply gave up in that series. He was the third leading scorer on his team too, weird

Was reading the Cavs forum (again lol) and this one dude says he knows someone in the Lebron camp. He said that Lebron to the Lakers is likely and mentioned that his team has moved out here. He also mentioned that to Lebron, it's all about Branding at this point. Another person replied by saying that he wouldn't be surprised that the Clarkson/Nance trade was made by Lebron to help the Lakers gain future capspace. For me personally, that's kinda far fetched. But if true, that's some Keyser Söze type (bleep) right there.

Yeah, everything is point to LeBron coming, the noise and rumors will heat up more and more on the Lakers getting LeBron... it’s basically a done deal... Philly and Houston are likely just secondary options.

Was reading the Cavs forum (again lol) and this one dude says he knows someone in the Lebron camp. He said that Lebron to the Lakers is likely and mentioned that his team has moved out here. He also mentioned that to Lebron, it's all about Branding at this point. Another person replied by saying that he wouldn't be surprised that the Clarkson/Nance trade was made by Lebron to help the Lakers gain future capspace. For me personally, that's kinda far fetched. But if true, that's some Keyser Söze type (bleep) right there.

Yeah, everything is point to LeBron coming, the noise and rumors will heat up more and more on the Lakers getting LeBron... it’s basically a done deal... Philly and Houston are likely just secondary options.

LeBron is going to do everything he can to keep people guessing all year. He loves the attention. I wouldn't even worry about him until he's having a visit with the FO in the offseason.

I'm starting to lean towards Lebron going to the Rockets. If he stays in the east he could lose the to Celtics every year. Lebron going West would be a breathe of fresh air tho he would be joining a loaded team. Still don't think they can beat a healthy GSW.

I don't see any team taking both Anderson and Gordon. Maybe one team takes either one with future draft picks going there way. If not, someone would have to take a massive paycut. Maybe Lebron is that gutless.

They can't keep D'Antoni if he comes either. Chances are he will get fired after this series if they get swept or lose in 5. They will have to find a puppet for Lebron. Don't see any real coaches available.

I still don’t see how the Rockets get him. Trading Gordon is easy but trading Anderson with very minimal assets will be extremely difficult.

Was reading the Cavs forum (again lol) and this one dude says he knows someone in the Lebron camp. He said that Lebron to the Lakers is likely and mentioned that his team has moved out here. He also mentioned that to Lebron, it's all about Branding at this point. Another person replied by saying that he wouldn't be surprised that the Clarkson/Nance trade was made by Lebron to help the Lakers gain future capspace. For me personally, that's kinda far fetched. But if true, that's some Keyser Söze type (bleep) right there.

Yeah, everything is point to LeBron coming, the noise and rumors will heat up more and more on the Lakers getting LeBron... it’s basically a done deal... Philly and Houston are likely just secondary options.

LeBron is going to do everything he can to keep people guessing all year. He loves the attention. I wouldn't even worry about him until he's having a visit with the FO in the offseason.

Hey lonzobryant. Imagine if your username was a real player on this team? He'd be better than Jordan! 😂

I'm starting to lean towards Lebron going to the Rockets. If he stays in the east he could lose the to Celtics every year. Lebron going West would be a breathe of fresh air tho he would be joining a loaded team. Still don't think they can beat a healthy GSW.

I don't see any team taking both Anderson and Gordon. Maybe one team takes either one with future draft picks going there way. If not, someone would have to take a massive paycut. Maybe Lebron is that gutless.

They can't keep D'Antoni if he comes either. Chances are he will get fired after this series if they get swept or lose in 5. They will have to find a puppet for Lebron. Don't see any real coaches available.

I still don’t see how the Rockets get him. Trading Gordon is easy but trading Anderson with very minimal assets will be extremely difficult.

Cavs and the team that would take Anderson would want some compensation (Even the team that takes Gordon may want to some compensation (2nd rounder). What picks or young players can the Rockets offer? Just curious, it may crush the possibility of a Rockets trade for Lebron.

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Was reading the Cavs forum (again lol) and this one dude says he knows someone in the Lebron camp. He said that Lebron to the Lakers is likely and mentioned that his team has moved out here. He also mentioned that to Lebron, it's all about Branding at this point. Another person replied by saying that he wouldn't be surprised that the Clarkson/Nance trade was made by Lebron to help the Lakers gain future capspace. For me personally, that's kinda far fetched. But if true, that's some Keyser Söze type (bleep) right there.

My info is in line with "Lebron to the Lakers".
I heard 8 months ago LeBron is going to the Lakers done deal from a sports industry exec. But so much can happen over time...I find it hard to believe that folks can be so sure unless it is all about Branding. Then it makes sense re: who told me.

Some in the media probably know but are afraid to be known as the Rat.

Was reading the Cavs forum (again lol) and this one dude says he knows someone in the Lebron camp. He said that Lebron to the Lakers is likely and mentioned that his team has moved out here. He also mentioned that to Lebron, it's all about Branding at this point. Another person replied by saying that he wouldn't be surprised that the Clarkson/Nance trade was made by Lebron to help the Lakers gain future capspace. For me personally, that's kinda far fetched. But if true, that's some Keyser Söze type (bleep) right there.

Yeah, everything is point to LeBron coming, the noise and rumors will heat up more and more on the Lakers getting LeBron... it’s basically a done deal... Philly and Houston are likely just secondary options.

LeBron is going to do everything he can to keep people guessing all year. He loves the attention. I wouldn't even worry about him until he's having a visit with the FO in the offseason.

Yeah indeed he does, which is why a lot of rumors will pop up about LeBron going to teams like Miami or NY but he’s probably had coming to LA wrapped up since last summer.

Was reading the Cavs forum (again lol) and this one dude says he knows someone in the Lebron camp. He said that Lebron to the Lakers is likely and mentioned that his team has moved out here. He also mentioned that to Lebron, it's all about Branding at this point. Another person replied by saying that he wouldn't be surprised that the Clarkson/Nance trade was made by Lebron to help the Lakers gain future capspace. For me personally, that's kinda far fetched. But if true, that's some Keyser Söze type (bleep) right there.

Yeah, everything is point to LeBron coming, the noise and rumors will heat up more and more on the Lakers getting LeBron... it’s basically a done deal... Philly and Houston are likely just secondary options.

LeBron is going to do everything he can to keep people guessing all year. He loves the attention. I wouldn't even worry about him until he's having a visit with the FO in the offseason.

Hey lonzobryant. Imagine if your username was a real player on this team? He'd be better than Jordan! 😂

Was reading the Cavs forum (again lol) and this one dude says he knows someone in the Lebron camp. He said that Lebron to the Lakers is likely and mentioned that his team has moved out here. He also mentioned that to Lebron, it's all about Branding at this point. Another person replied by saying that he wouldn't be surprised that the Clarkson/Nance trade was made by Lebron to help the Lakers gain future capspace. For me personally, that's kinda far fetched. But if true, that's some Keyser Söze type (bleep) right there.

Yeah, everything is point to LeBron coming, the noise and rumors will heat up more and more on the Lakers getting LeBron... it’s basically a done deal... Philly and Houston are likely just secondary options.

LeBron is going to do everything he can to keep people guessing all year. He loves the attention. I wouldn't even worry about him until he's having a visit with the FO in the offseason.

Yeah indeed he does, which is why a lot of rumors will pop up about LeBron going to teams like Miami or NY but he’s probably had coming to LA wrapped up since last summer.

I do not think it has to do with keeping people guessing. I think its about being professional. He plays for the Cavs and is under contract till July 1st. There would be a huge problem within and outside the organization if LeBron said ..."I am going to another team" before his contract is up.

Was reading the Cavs forum (again lol) and this one dude says he knows someone in the Lebron camp. He said that Lebron to the Lakers is likely and mentioned that his team has moved out here. He also mentioned that to Lebron, it's all about Branding at this point. Another person replied by saying that he wouldn't be surprised that the Clarkson/Nance trade was made by Lebron to help the Lakers gain future capspace. For me personally, that's kinda far fetched. But if true, that's some Keyser Söze type (bleep) right there.

Yeah, everything is point to LeBron coming, the noise and rumors will heat up more and more on the Lakers getting LeBron... it’s basically a done deal... Philly and Houston are likely just secondary options.

LeBron is going to do everything he can to keep people guessing all year. He loves the attention. I wouldn't even worry about him until he's having a visit with the FO in the offseason.

Hey lonzobryant. Imagine if your username was a real player on this team? He'd be better than Jordan! 😂

Was reading the Cavs forum (again lol) and this one dude says he knows someone in the Lebron camp. He said that Lebron to the Lakers is likely and mentioned that his team has moved out here. He also mentioned that to Lebron, it's all about Branding at this point. Another person replied by saying that he wouldn't be surprised that the Clarkson/Nance trade was made by Lebron to help the Lakers gain future capspace. For me personally, that's kinda far fetched. But if true, that's some Keyser Söze type (bleep) right there.

Yeah, everything is point to LeBron coming, the noise and rumors will heat up more and more on the Lakers getting LeBron... it’s basically a done deal... Philly and Houston are likely just secondary options.

LeBron is going to do everything he can to keep people guessing all year. He loves the attention. I wouldn't even worry about him until he's having a visit with the FO in the offseason.

Yeah indeed he does, which is why a lot of rumors will pop up about LeBron going to teams like Miami or NY but he’s probably had coming to LA wrapped up since last summer.

I do not think it has to do with keeping people guessing. I think its about being professional. He plays for the Cavs and is under contract till July 1st. There would be a huge problem within and outside the organization if LeBron said ..."I am going to another team" before his contract is up.

That is why we have sources telling us what players plan to do, I’m guessing where LeBron is going will be known by Draft time...

It saddens me that we're probably desperate enough to max LeBron for the attention but he's not worth it. LeBron-ball did work but now he's older and still wants to get his instead of doing what's best for the team. I can only hope we don't sign him.

if we sign LBJ, it's not for attention. we get plenty of that.

i think he's at the point of his career where perhaps he'd be open to play off ball a bit more and giving his body a break. he's obviously not getting that in cleveland.

think about who's going to stop him when he curls, nobody. and most times he will end up taking 2 defenders with him leaving an open shooter.

i'm not sure signing lebron is the best move, but to say we're doing it for attention is far from accurate.

Hard for me to believe that the guy who has played with Kyrie and Wade and still needed to get his wants to play off-ball. Obviously, we're probably the best option for his ego because nobody here including PG13 can threaten him for being the #1 option. Philly on the other hand has Simmons and Embiid. Embiid will probably be a monster next year as well.

you didn't address your reasoning on how we would be signing LBJ for attention.

on the on-ball/off-ball issue. Kyrie handled the ball quite a bit as well during is CLE days, and that allowed LBJ to take plays off. He no longer has that luxury.

when he played with Wade, they started off by essentially sharing possessions, but that didn't work out well and LBJ became the primary guy, with Wade being a complementary ball handler.

if he comes here, we will have zo, BI, and most importantly an offensive scheme that isn't a stand and watch system. lazy basketball = ISO basketball with no off ball movement. that won't happen here i'm guessing.

I don't see any other reason to bring him here besides the fact that he's box-office. That's just my opinion.

LeBron-ball works until it doesn't, and I don't think it's the way to go right now. Everything you said is nice but I'm skeptical that happens. We also have young coach that doesn't necessarily have a lot pedigree to dictate things his way. LeBron wants to win but he wants all the credit with it. I think that's pretty obvious. I think he tanked the 2011 series because Wade was gonna win Finals MVP - it's still mind-boggling for him to take himself out of series like that. If he's here then I'll root him and the Lakers but I'd rather not have him.

I'd advise anyone who's going back and forth with this man to end the discussion after this ridiculous comment.

It's plausible. I don't think that's the reason but LeBron simply gave up in that series. He was the third leading scorer on his team too, weird

No it isn't._________________“Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
- John Piper

It saddens me that we're probably desperate enough to max LeBron for the attention but he's not worth it. LeBron-ball did work but now he's older and still wants to get his instead of doing what's best for the team. I can only hope we don't sign him.

if we sign LBJ, it's not for attention. we get plenty of that.

i think he's at the point of his career where perhaps he'd be open to play off ball a bit more and giving his body a break. he's obviously not getting that in cleveland.

think about who's going to stop him when he curls, nobody. and most times he will end up taking 2 defenders with him leaving an open shooter.

i'm not sure signing lebron is the best move, but to say we're doing it for attention is far from accurate.

Hard for me to believe that the guy who has played with Kyrie and Wade and still needed to get his wants to play off-ball. Obviously, we're probably the best option for his ego because nobody here including PG13 can threaten him for being the #1 option. Philly on the other hand has Simmons and Embiid. Embiid will probably be a monster next year as well.

you didn't address your reasoning on how we would be signing LBJ for attention.

on the on-ball/off-ball issue. Kyrie handled the ball quite a bit as well during is CLE days, and that allowed LBJ to take plays off. He no longer has that luxury.

when he played with Wade, they started off by essentially sharing possessions, but that didn't work out well and LBJ became the primary guy, with Wade being a complementary ball handler.

if he comes here, we will have zo, BI, and most importantly an offensive scheme that isn't a stand and watch system. lazy basketball = ISO basketball with no off ball movement. that won't happen here i'm guessing.

I don't see any other reason to bring him here besides the fact that he's box-office. That's just my opinion.

LeBron-ball works until it doesn't, and I don't think it's the way to go right now. Everything you said is nice but I'm skeptical that happens. We also have young coach that doesn't necessarily have a lot pedigree to dictate things his way. LeBron wants to win but he wants all the credit with it. I think that's pretty obvious. I think he tanked the 2011 series because Wade was gonna win Finals MVP - it's still mind-boggling for him to take himself out of series like that. If he's here then I'll root him and the Lakers but I'd rather not have him.

I'd advise anyone who's going back and forth with this man to end the discussion after this ridiculous comment.

It's plausible. I don't think that's the reason but LeBron simply gave up in that series. He was the third leading scorer on his team too, weird

No it isn't.

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Yes it is, plausible but it isn't likely.

He did look like he gave up in that series. Imo because the Mavs were playing amazing defense against him frustrating him. Meanwhile Wade was playing out of his mind.

It saddens me that we're probably desperate enough to max LeBron for the attention but he's not worth it. LeBron-ball did work but now he's older and still wants to get his instead of doing what's best for the team. I can only hope we don't sign him.

if we sign LBJ, it's not for attention. we get plenty of that.

i think he's at the point of his career where perhaps he'd be open to play off ball a bit more and giving his body a break. he's obviously not getting that in cleveland.

think about who's going to stop him when he curls, nobody. and most times he will end up taking 2 defenders with him leaving an open shooter.

i'm not sure signing lebron is the best move, but to say we're doing it for attention is far from accurate.

Hard for me to believe that the guy who has played with Kyrie and Wade and still needed to get his wants to play off-ball. Obviously, we're probably the best option for his ego because nobody here including PG13 can threaten him for being the #1 option. Philly on the other hand has Simmons and Embiid. Embiid will probably be a monster next year as well.

you didn't address your reasoning on how we would be signing LBJ for attention.

on the on-ball/off-ball issue. Kyrie handled the ball quite a bit as well during is CLE days, and that allowed LBJ to take plays off. He no longer has that luxury.

when he played with Wade, they started off by essentially sharing possessions, but that didn't work out well and LBJ became the primary guy, with Wade being a complementary ball handler.

if he comes here, we will have zo, BI, and most importantly an offensive scheme that isn't a stand and watch system. lazy basketball = ISO basketball with no off ball movement. that won't happen here i'm guessing.

I don't see any other reason to bring him here besides the fact that he's box-office. That's just my opinion.

LeBron-ball works until it doesn't, and I don't think it's the way to go right now. Everything you said is nice but I'm skeptical that happens. We also have young coach that doesn't necessarily have a lot pedigree to dictate things his way. LeBron wants to win but he wants all the credit with it. I think that's pretty obvious. I think he tanked the 2011 series because Wade was gonna win Finals MVP - it's still mind-boggling for him to take himself out of series like that. If he's here then I'll root him and the Lakers but I'd rather not have him.

I'd advise anyone who's going back and forth with this man to end the discussion after this ridiculous comment.

It's plausible. I don't think that's the reason but LeBron simply gave up in that series. He was the third leading scorer on his team too, weird

No it isn't.

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Yes it is, plausible but it isn't likely.

He did look like he gave up in that series. Imo because the Mavs were playing amazing defense against him frustrating him. Meanwhile Wade was playing out of his mind.

The narrative changed next year too that Miami Heat couldn't win the finals until Wade went to LeBron and said it's your team. Whatever though it worked that group won 2 titles together so not bad.