[Update: 13.0.6634] Christmas Update

[Update: 13.0.6634] Christmas Update

TeamViewer 13 for Linux - Christmas edition

Dear Linux community,

today we are releasing our Christmas update for TeamViewer 13. Before going into details, on the behalf our my team, I would like to apologize for the inconvenience caused to some of you who missed key functionality in the previous release. To make this apology not only words, we decided to squeeze in an extra release before the next one planned for January.

Perception of the initial TeamViewer 13 for Linux releaseFortunately we have this community, which allows us to get feedback and react quickly. During the last months we were focused on improving the situation with Wayland and had to learn the hard way that Ctrl+Alt+Del is much more important to some of you. Still, even with missing features, the majority of our users seems to appreciate the general direction we are going with the Wine-less, native TeamViewer with true 64 bit support and repositories. We hope you'll like it even more with this release.

What's New? — A Quick Overview

toolbar with Ctrl+Alt+Del, switch screen

Partner ID visible in remote control window title

search filter for Computers & Contacts

more connection modes

(limited) support for Debian 8 is back

TAR package can now (again) be used without installation

improved teamviewer setup

Remote Controlremote control toolbarWorking on many machines, you can now tell on which one you are from the window title. And of course, there is the toolbar. Initially, it supports Ctrl+Alt+Del, remote lock, remote reboot, remote sign out, show remote cursor, and switch screens.The remote cursor is the one as seen on the remote side, which is handy if somebody wants to show you something on the other side. Additionally, the local cursor takes the shape of the remote cursor.

Please let us know what you like or dislike about the toolbar and its behavior. The toolbar tries hard to not be in your way: It's slim, transparent and you can move it all the way to the screen edges. Too slim? Too big? Would you rather have a ribbon-style toolbar as on Windows? Share your thoughts! It's your chance to get the toolbar that exactly suits your needs.Of course, more tools will also be added. Top candidates are: show black screen, disable remote input and session recording.

Computers & Contactsdevice selectionThe most commonly used ways to initiate connections are now supported. By password, by password stored in your account, via easy access, or by prompting the other side for confirmation (via context menu).Also, the dearly missed filter is now there.When connecting to an account that is active on multiple machines, there is now a selection dialog. As on Windows, but cuter. :robotvery-happy:

TAR Package, Unofficial Ports, SetupThe TAR package can now (again) be used without installation. Just make sure that all dependencies are installed by running ./tv-setup checklibs once. Due to the short-term release there are minor caveats: Presence of Qt QuickControls is not verified by checklibs. The UI offers 'start with system' which has no effect and the tray icon is transparent/invisible (but usable). This will be addressed timely.Of course, you can also install the TAR package with ./tv-setup. In that case, only the checklibs limitation applies. Installing the TAR package is especially useful on non-DEB/RPM systems.Speaking of other systems: Community member Maxxim has created ebuilds for Gentoo, and there also seems to be some work going on in the Arch universe.

The commandline teamviewer setup to assign a device to your account should now work as it used to. (Account assignment is also available in the options dialog)

Limited Debian 8 supportAs per popular demand, limited Debian 8 support is back. It's a bit tricky as we cannot even use all features of Qt 5.2, as they are buggy (in a crashy way) on Debian 8. Therefore, please consider this a best-effort support. We will definitely switch to Qt 5.5 in a few months. Depending on user demand and feasibility, we might provide compatibility libraries.

Future DevelopmentMost requested featuresWe have adapted our development goals to the results of the survey and other valuable feedback by our users. After a much needed break over the christmas holidays we will focus on file transfer, chat and mobile device support. What is done in time will be in the next release, end of January.

Known IssuesDue to the short development cycle, we could not tackle all known issues. On some systems, menus/dialogs/tooltips have invisible text. Using a different desktop (theme) can work around this. Some keys are not properly handled when connecting to macOS. If TeamViewer does not start on SUSE, one has to install libqt5-qtquickcontrols manually. On DEB systems, apt update spits out some warnings.

Re: [Update: 13.0.6634] Christmas Update

Thanks for the update, working OK on Ubuntu 17.04. One thing I have noticed is that I cannot collapse groups of computers; I have 106 online devices which means that my Computers & Contacts needs to be unnecessarily large or there's lots of scrolling to do. There are carats on each group but clicking them does nothing.

Re: [Update: 13.0.6634] Christmas Update

I appreciate very much that there is now true Linux version without Wine - well done! Linux repository is super! Now we can ensure that Teamviewer is up-to-date again! Another good feature is to support headless Linux machines (without GUI).

* in case of toolbar: floating information missing on some buttons - hard to understand, what they really mean as it is not straightforward to understand from picture - this might be that those buttons do not work on remote OS but still I wonder that only in case of MS Windows do some buttons work... I would dream that all buttons work - this means that only those buttons should be visible that are supported by remote OS* this is very good that we can move the toolbar now* cannot edit remote computers details in list* search field is very good in computers list* what is management console in computers list? This button seems to be not working for now.* offline computers would be expected to be gray and not colored. Possibly to make it configurable from settings.* cannot set default video setting: optimized for speed or quality* display name was not taken from logged in user profile but just computer name used for remote management, which is not good (confusing remote user - cannot ensure the proper person is administering remotely)* cannot collapse the list of computers* cannot change the computers list behaviour - either group offline computers or not* your feedback form size is only 500 characters* feedback form is always centered and the window cannot be moved* this trusted devices behaviour is truly disturbing - this should be solved in a much more intelligent way. E.g. adding a key file into that computer that is used for management. Second idea: make possible to provide 2nd factor authentication and that would be the provement. E.g. using FreeOTP (https://freeotp.github.io/) or similar (SMS). It should be so that I can activate SMS and also FreeOTP. In case I change the phone, I cannot use FreeOTP and then SMS will help me change the phone device. You can offer also recovery codes for a case of changing the phone device.* audio-, video chat looks like missing - could be based on WebRTC technology (basically HTML5 + JavaScript)* looks like IT-brain is missing* cannot start meeting* make possible to generate a new ID to the computer - this feature should require administrative rights* support to use SSH keys - both puTTYgen and ssh-keygen generated - when using SSH keys, this should be sufficient to not require 2nd factor authentication.

Re: [Update: 13.0.6634] Christmas Update

I appreciate very much that there is now true Linux version without Wine - well done! Linux repository is super! Now we can ensure that Teamviewer is up-to-date again! Another good feature is to support headless Linux machines (without GUI).

* in case of toolbar: floating information missing on some buttons - hard to understand, what they really mean as it is not straightforward to understand from picture - this might be that those buttons do not work on remote OS but still I wonder that only in case of MS Windows do some buttons work... I would dream that all buttons work - this means that only those buttons should be visible that are supported by remote OS* this is very good that we can move the toolbar now* cannot edit remote computers details in list* search field is very good in computers list* what is management console in computers list? This button seems to be not working for now.* offline computers would be expected to be gray and not colored. Possibly to make it configurable from settings.* cannot set default video setting: optimized for speed or quality* display name was not taken from logged in user profile but just computer name used for remote management, which is not good (confusing remote user - cannot ensure the proper person is administering remotely)* cannot collapse the list of computers* cannot change the computers list behaviour - either group offline computers or not* your feedback form size is only 500 characters* feedback form is always centered and the window cannot be moved* this trusted devices behaviour is truly disturbing - this should be solved in a much more intelligent way. E.g. adding a key file into that computer that is used for management. Second idea: make possible to provide 2nd factor authentication and that would be the provement. E.g. using FreeOTP (https://freeotp.github.io/) or similar (SMS). It should be so that I can activate SMS and also FreeOTP. In case I change the phone, I cannot use FreeOTP and then SMS will help me change the phone device. You can offer also recovery codes for a case of changing the phone device.* audio-, video chat looks like missing - could be based on WebRTC technology (basically HTML5 + JavaScript)* looks like IT-brain is missing* cannot start meeting* make possible to generate a new ID to the computer - this feature should require administrative rights* support to use SSH keys - both puTTYgen and ssh-keygen generated - when using SSH keys, this should be sufficient to not require 2nd factor authentication.* looks like file management is also missing (cannot exchange files with remote computer)

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* SSH keys should be supported: RSA, Ed25519 (elliptic curve) and also with maximum strength (RSA: 16384-bit via ssh-keygen - should support as much as ssh-keygen can do in future; Ed25519 can change the KDF value (-a parameter, default 16 but should support as much as ssh-keygen can do in future))

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* in Linux part the remote terminal would be appreciated to make possible to open - especially when authenticating over SSH but not only - this should work so that locally will be opened the default terminal (x-terminal-emulator) but with remote command-line.

This means that if there has been authenticated with SSH key or just remote computer has OpenSSH server installed then it can open remote terminal via SSH locally - it would be like logging in via SSH.

Not only means that if it could be possible then make such remote terminal possible also without having SSH server in remote computer. This could be done e.g. having Teleconsole or similar integrated into Teamviewer. More information - https://www.teleconsole.com/ - this would be very nice if remote console could work transparently inside Teamviewer!

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Yet another idea: send command(s) or also script with commands to remote computer(s). This means either one or more computers simultaneously. Also this would be appreciated to do using SSH key installed remotely under root user and also it will require the OpenSSH server installed on every remote computer. So defining a key file for specific user (e.g. also root user) per computer or group of computers at once would be appreciated. Such command sending would be appreciated without opening the remote computer view via Teamviewer - just send the command(s) or (e.g. bash, etc) script with commands. There would be appreciated to send also message before and after running the sent command(s) or script, e.g. using libnotify on remote computer. This would be especially useful while people are working on computer. Therefore it would be even better to set a time after first message when the command(s) or script will be executed to give a time to finish activities for user on remote computer. Also would be good to configure command(s) or script after running the main command(s) or script. This could be called like pre- and post- command(s) or script. This could be also an idea - give a message (warning) that after x minutes, seconds etc will start computer updating (repairing etc) and then screen will be locked for user and activities can start. Also as a next option it would be good to make possible to log current user out, possibly also all other users and then run the main command(s) or script e.g. using specific user (root or any other user in sudo group who has SSH public key installed on remote computer).

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Thank you very much for this update, the search and ctrl+alt+delete alone will get me a long way into be able to use the native linux version for many of my connections from my xubuntu workstation.

The single most important feature needed for me right now, is to be able to see QuickSupport sessions in my C&C in linux, clients starting my QuickSupport client right now, cannot be seen in linux C&C, nor can i connect to them.

There are of course alot of other features, that would be nice to have, and might be very important for other user cases. But with the ability to connect to quicksupport sessions would take me personally a long way to be able to use native linux TV as my daily way of using TV (using a windows VM today).

About the toolbarI like it, slim, simple, not in the way. You migh need to be more creative in the future when many more features are implemented. Like grouping or somthing along that line. For my daily usage, I use: ctrl+alt+del, remote resolution, show remote cursor, chat, file transfer. in that order, is the ones I use.

The following features are the ones I miss, but are not essential for my daily usage.

- Remote resultiotion - can be quite convinient when connecting to some windows servers without monitor, wich often reset to 1024*768 as standard resolution when not in use. The same is true when connecting to clients with 4K-monitors from a computer with 1920*1xxx. This is quite easily workaround, but I use it almost daily on my windows/mac boxes.

- File transfer - I don't use it that often, but from time to time, and when i need it, other ways of performing file transfers can be used as a workaround. But I'm sure other users have this on the top of their lists as an important feature.

- Chat - Personally, I'm usually on the phone with my clients when we need to communicate, but it's a very convinient way of communication with the costumer from time to time.

- Timing out inactive sessions - I work from different places, if i forget to close a connection made from my office computer. I cannot use teamviewer on my laptop until I go back to the office and close that connection (just have a one channel license).

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I have a Quick Support module that is supposed to show all computers that download it in a shared contacts folder. Right now it works great on Windows and Mac, but nothing shows up in Linux. Is this a known bug? Is there a fix for it right now, or is it coming in an update?

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No one has still said it but an important feature is missing for me: access using Windows login information. I use admin credentials instead of Teamviewer password when connecting to computers of windows users without admin privileges; otherwise, the UAC freezes the screen for TeamViewer.

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Although Ver. 13.0.6634 looks great in Windows. It does not work at all in Linux Mint 18.3 for a lot of people I know and me (grayed out users and can do nothing). It's really not ready for prime time. In all the years I've used TeamViewer. Windows aside... I have never had the problem like I have with TeamViewer Ver.13 and with no matter what version of Mint. 13 should have been left in the beta stage and not shown to the public only a beta team until it was working on the Linux side.

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Good works guys but I will stay with the last TV version 12.0.90041 for the next few months until you stabilize the situation.

I use Linux mint 18.3 mate 64 bits with Virtualbox and I can use TV 13.0.6634 on it (with Windows 10 as a guest). I can see that I can use 2 differents GUI maybe to feel the difference between them, I don't know! But it's good way to experiment those two GUI. Actually, I like the old one but I will keep on the experience between both of them. Thanks

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As many ou us mentioned before, it has quite a few bugs in Linux. It's too bad I can't attach a picture here, but the tool bar at the top of the screen has only a couple of very basic options... everything else is missing.

However, I can connect to a Windows PC without any problem from Mint 18.2.

Any idea when are you going to release a patch to solve all the Linux problems??

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I hate to complain, but come on.Three weeks ago with 13.0.6634 Christmas Update and all has gone quiet. No more updates Daniel? Go over and see if you can borrow a few coders from Linux Mint, or maybe right from here, zeroconf, or ndit. They seem to be able to sort through all of the problems. Maybe things would start moving in the right direction. Sorry... but you need someone to help.

No new repository has been added to my OpenSuse Tumbleweed 64 list (in the Yast2 graphical Repo list). Does the teamviewer.repo file control how teamviewer updates itself when running? Is the update automatic or do you have to select agree like in the Windows version?

Seems much more responsive and the display is better. Looking forward to file transfer and screen resolution coming back as you ad features. Thanks!

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My concern is related to a product that I decided (with my company) to buy because it is compatible with Linux.

As we use only Linux for daily jobs (only a virtual machine for those activities that can't be done with Linux only software) we need all functionality on Linux.

I contest only the choise to have a so different product released for Linux without the possibility to use the old version (it is not compatible with new client) or the new version but in Windows version.

I think that it can be a transaction period on which we can choise between a native Linux and a Wine version, as we can work as we paid.

I can be also a beta tester for new versions (but it is a beta).

Remember also that the new version doesn't work well on my Fedora 26 (even it is declared to be compatible with). If I connect to an old client i see some black square on the screen and no refresh on them even if i pass with the mouse on it.

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I greatly appreciate all the work you have put in to the full linux version. Unfortunately it is still fairly unusable for me. Lots of black squares on the screen, times where it doesn't want to connect at all, and very annoyingly, the contacts list does not show online or offline. Please release the wine version as a temp workaround until the full version is prime time ready. I am having to use a VM to run the Windows version just so I can connect to my customers. I finally opt'ed for the yearly subscription you guys have been pushing, instead of just buying a new major release when there were features I needed, and now I have lost my Linux functionality..

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Please have the toolbar minimized by default.

Please have the window maximised by default or alternativly remember geometry.

On the windows version, the new beta layout with one single window is much nicer instead of seperate window for teamviewer and then anothe one for computers&contacts. Would love this on the linux version. except maybe have it so as the recent connections tree can be removed, [ some of us only use TV for a handful of machines and this can make no sense, maybe if total machines is less than X don't show recent connections].

Lastly a vote towards not worrying too much about wayland. I can't see the sense in running a production machine on wayland at all yet, its still way to early for it. People pushing it as default are crazy or have very different definitions of production ready than I do. Just my 2 cents. Wait until its all done and solid first. To me, TV being bleeding edge is not as important as reliablility.

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I also had to roll back to v12 and keep my customers from upgrading; the critical missing features for me are 1)View Monitors in Separate Windows (which I haven't seen mentioned yet), and 2) file transfer. While I could live without file transfer for a while, due to my workflow with customers, TeamViewer is nearly useless to me without the opportunity to view remote monitors as separate windows. I found the survey too late to participate. Any idea if this feature is on the list to be restored?