Absolutely loved The Crew. I'm so looking forward to this but very apprehensive because I have a filling this is going to be stuffed full of "micro"-transations. I hope I'm wrong but some how I very much doubt it. Reply+1

My favourite racing game and one of my all time racing games. One of the very few, litrally countable on one hand, that I have brought and played more than once. I had it on the 360 then on the ps3 then got it again on digital on ps3 and I'll happily buy it again now on ps4... might wait for the price to go down though. Piss taking bastards, EA. Reply+1

David braben is a cunt. Don't forget guys, all of you that buy this or any game second hand are scum and in the same level as criminals acording to him. Yeah but it's ok to microtransation the shit out of loyal fans. Cunt. Reply-23

What an awful idea. I just can't see people wanting to buy into this. Why do you need the peripheral and actual cards? Even if people wanted to play this (and I don't see it) then they would want to just play as an app not have to go out and buy this lump of plastic. Reply-1

I can only speak for myself. I never buy games at launch now because they are almost all released broken in some way. O have learned to wait until they are patched with more content and at a reduced price. Maybe others are the same.Maybe they are sick to death of being treated like cattle to be milked of coin, conned with shitty season passes, treated like idiots. Reply+6

Article nails it. Giving you a voice and history is one of fallout 4's big problems. Bethesda rpgs have always been about placing you in a world and saying okay now go and make your story and make yourself who you want to be but that's taken away from you in fallout 4. Also it's a shooter. And no longer an rpg. Reply+12

Please bring this to consoles! The likes of X-com, Divinity, wasteland, tropico, prison architect, and so on all prove there is a place for these sorts of games on console. Bring me CIV, please. I promise i'll buy the shit out of it. Reply-1

Fallout 4 was just a shooter. I hated they took away choice and gave you a voice which ironically made me loose my voice. I was no longer a wasteland wanderer. I had to be the "hero" i would think very carefully about buying another fallout game Reply+13

This sounds brilliant. I am really liking the fight back against the dumbing down of games that has been the trend for awhile. I really like the systems in place. I hope the actual game play lives up though. Fingers crossed! Reply+15

IronSoldier wrote:@rifrafhmI wonder how much longer before reading 'shuttered' stops making me wince.Have you 'reached out to' USAgamer, er, Eurogamer for an explanation? :pI'm the same. I really wish they would stop. Reply0

7M7 wrote:Christ some people are negative. First time I can think of where a publisher has put mods on a console game, and moreover platform holders allowing it, and still people piss and moan.Nobody's forcing the bloody things down your phone line or cable, so why not just appreciate one of the rare moments where the industry is giving gamers something a little extra without some nasty monetisation strategy strapped to the back of it?+10000000000000000000000000 Reply+4

BellyFullOfHell wrote:@ClemFandango How the fuck did you get negged for that? The Amiga version was a gorgeous tech demo with a half arsed arcade adventure tacked on, and the second was a crime against game design. I did finish the original on C64 cart and it was a much better game than the Amiga versionl. This looks really nice. Just hope they remembered the gameplay.It's true. The original games were a bind blowing technical treat for the eyes but played like dog shit. I'll be very surprised if this new game is any good either. Reply+1

This really makes a lot of business sense for Sony. The brand name is really strong and well known and they have a lot of highly recognizable and loved IP. We know there's a lot of money to be made in mobile these days as far as I know all the big publishers have mobile offerings, even Nintendo is getting into it. I'm actually surprised it took Sony this long. It's another revenue stream to tap into. Reply-1

Is the WiiU built around motion controls? No. The wii sold loads, yes, but it was a fad. It sold well because the gimmick took off then people got bored of the gimmick and moved on to other things. Even Nintendo acknowledges that motmion control was a failure or they we would have a WiiU based around motion controls. We don't and they went back to standard controls with a different gimmick thrown in. Reply-7

Yeah I know that the ps3 controller is compatible with the vr tech. There are a few games as mentioned by the article and some that aren't that use the control pad. It's simply that a lot of the games being shown seem to me to be using motion controls and that worries me.

I haven't used any other the new vr solutions as you obviously have so i will reserve my judgment. You could be right about it making all the difference in 3D but what CAN it make a great game?

I just can't shake the feeling that once the novelty has worn off, once you lose that wow factor of being in an immersive 3d enviroment will it still be good enough? 3D movies and motion control systems are ample examples of what happens once the novelty wears off.

I'll look forward to trying one of these things and changing my mind :) Reply-2

For me vr has to move away from motion controls to be a success. Motion controls are shit. You cant make (there are exceptions) good games with motion controls. Kinect, the wii, Sony's own move controllers... Video game history is littered with motion control corpses. I need proper controls and proper games. Proper pad controls offer a level of complexity and precision that motion controls cannot get close to. If they insist on motion controls then vr will be a fad. It Will sell loads then people will become bored and jaded once the novelty wears off snd go back to proper games. Reply-20

I really enjoyed GH Live. Funnily enough, I was playing it tonight when I got in from work. I'm not that surprised about Rock Band. It's no good expecting it to sell when you can't buy it in a shop; I have never seen it! I wonder if this will break Harmonix? Reply0

We are fucked, aren't we? You would like to think that people would reject being seen as nothing more than cash cows and developers did what they did out of love and passion first and money second. But stories like this show how this is a bit of a fantasy. We are so fucked. Reply+6