FlashHarry:this is why you will lose, republicans. when you have to lie and cheat and otherwise breitbart things to make a point, you know your fundamental position is corrupt and rotten.

I am always reminded of this quote when people talk about crap like this "What did you expect? "Welcome, sonny"? "Make yourself at home"? "Marry my daughter"? You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons."

too-old:FlashHarry: this is why you will lose, republicans. when you have to lie and cheat and otherwise breitbart things to make a point, you know your fundamental position is corrupt and rotten.

I am always reminded of this quote when people talk about crap like this "What did you expect? "Welcome, sonny"? "Make yourself at home"? "Marry my daughter"? You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons."

I don't feel so safe that Obama will be re elected

According to 538, he's gonna definitely get elected by the Electoral College, but his hold on the popular vote is generally around 51%. My concern is for the Senate and the House. I think the Democrats did decently in the last 4 years, considering the opposition, but I want to see them have the ability to do MORE. At this point I don't care if it's free clogging lessons for left-handed midgets as long as it's something that the next Presidency can target first before he or she takes down ANY strides we've made in healthcare, education, etc.

calbert:nowhere did they try to pass that video off as happening today.

Seeing the clip, I would've have thought the video was recent, especially based on the comparison to the recent protests in Libya and Egypt. Now, I do not feel the intention was to pass off the clips as recent, because frankly Fox is heavier handed when doing this, but simply the thought of conflating the two was not there.

Vangor:calbert: nowhere did they try to pass that video off as happening today.

Seeing the clip, I would've have thought the video was recent, especially based on the comparison to the recent protests in Libya and Egypt. Now, I do not feel the intention was to pass off the clips as recent, because frankly Fox is heavier handed when doing this, but simply the thought of conflating the two was not there.

I'd watch the clip and make the determination for myself but I can't abide these infomercials that HuffPo now makes you sit through so I'll have to take your words for it

fusillade762:Steven Crowder used the anniversary as an opportunity to contrast Occupy unfavorably to the Tea Party movement.

the Occupy movement "is entirely based on selfish motives" and "based on wanting more free crap."

As opposed to the Tea Party who take to the streets for completely philanthropic motives.

In a lot of red states, aren't the Tea Partiers, through their calls for smaller government and reduced taxation, effectively calling for substantial cuts to their own states from the Fed? It's not selfish. Stupid, on the other hand.

The major beneficiaries of the policies associated with the Tea Party won't be the folks doing most of the rallying. They'll be the wealthy shareholders of large corporations. Like News Corporation, parent of Fox News, for example. They've certainly taken advantage of the generous efforts of the conservative white folks who've happily attended Tea Party rallies.

I'm missing the part where they claimed or even implied that it was recent footage. They're talking about the 1 year anniversary of OWS. God forbid they should show things that happened during the year they're talking about.

Last Tuesday they tried to pass off 11 year old videos as new, if you can believe that. I thought somebody had rebuilt the twin towers to their original specs and blown them up again. Damn you, Fox News!

Gyrfalcon:WorldCitizen: I don't think these people are smart enough to have shame. Either that, or they're making enough money and their souls are shallow enough that they just don't care.

It's obvious that they're not smart enough to figure out stuff like this can be sourced and dated.

Doocy has always been a twat - his bio states that he was "features reporter" at WRC. I grew up watching WRC news, Doocy was the backup weatherman. The goofy one (and that's compared to Bob Ryan, which is sayin something).

Considering that that video appears to cut in part way into this interview, I have to ask the question whether any subtitles of any kind were put on the display of last year's arrests. Often for these, it'll cite credits of some kind, usually including the words "File Footage" when it isn't recent. HuffPo may simply be trying to rewrite the narrative here, something Arianna Huffington certainly seems to have no qualms doing.

Man, talk about a wasted opportunity. This guy had a chance to Colbert her for the entire interview and instead he just giggled into the camera like an idiot and the whole segment was a bout of awkward fail.

Aussie_As:fusillade762: Steven Crowder used the anniversary as an opportunity to contrast Occupy unfavorably to the Tea Party movement.

the Occupy movement "is entirely based on selfish motives" and "based on wanting more free crap."

As opposed to the Tea Party who take to the streets for completely philanthropic motives.

In a lot of red states, aren't the Tea Partiers, through their calls for smaller government and reduced taxation, effectively calling for substantial cuts to their own states from the Fed? It's not selfish. Stupid, on the other hand.

The major beneficiaries of the policies associated with the Tea Party won't be the folks doing most of the rallying. They'll be the wealthy shareholders of large corporations. Like News Corporation, parent of Fox News, for example. They've certainly taken advantage of the generous efforts of the conservative white folks who've happily attended Tea Party rallies.

True. But their ostensible reason for existing is "Taxed Enough Already", it's right there in the TEA part of TEA Party. How is claiming you want to pay less taxes not selfish?

Aussie_As:In a lot of red states, aren't the Tea Partiers, through their calls for smaller government and reduced taxation, effectively calling for substantial cuts to their own states from the Fed? It's not selfish. Stupid, on the other hand.

The major beneficiaries of the policies associated with the Tea Party won't be the folks doing most of the rallying. They'll be the wealthy shareholders of large corporations. Like News Corporation, parent of Fox News, for example. They've certainly taken advantage of the generous efforts of the conservative white folks who've happily attended Tea Party rallies.

Daily Show and Colbert had a few good bits on that, especially interviews they did at the RNC convention. It's always all the OTHER states that need their federal funding cut. Not theirs!

fusillade762:Aussie_As: fusillade762: Steven Crowder used the anniversary as an opportunity to contrast Occupy unfavorably to the Tea Party movement.

the Occupy movement "is entirely based on selfish motives" and "based on wanting more free crap."

As opposed to the Tea Party who take to the streets for completely philanthropic motives.

In a lot of red states, aren't the Tea Partiers, through their calls for smaller government and reduced taxation, effectively calling for substantial cuts to their own states from the Fed? It's not selfish. Stupid, on the other hand.

The major beneficiaries of the policies associated with the Tea Party won't be the folks doing most of the rallying. They'll be the wealthy shareholders of large corporations. Like News Corporation, parent of Fox News, for example. They've certainly taken advantage of the generous efforts of the conservative white folks who've happily attended Tea Party rallies.

True. But their ostensible reason for existing is "Taxed Enough Already", it's right there in the TEA part of TEA Party. How is claiming you want to pay less taxes not selfish?

Even as a left-winger, I would have to concede that not all taxes are good and not all government spending/redistribution is ideal. Any taxation measure needs to be imposed as a measure of last resort, although of course many excellent programs are funded through taxation. My point though is that a lot of the folks doing the actual rallying and electing Tea Party Republicans probably wouldn't find their tax bill being very different, but their own communities and districts would face a lot of hardship if there was less Federal money being thrown at them. The very people who actually own Fox News would be MUCH better off though. So many Tea Partyers are not being selfish because they and their communities will be paying just as much of the price of their policies as other communities who receive more than they pay back when it comes to tax dollars.

Man, talk about a wasted opportunity. This guy had a chance to Colbert her for the entire interview and instead he just giggled into the camera like an idiot and the whole segment was a bout of awkward fail.

He should have prepared better.

He could have at least strung along "Fox News Dumb Blonde #42-2814" for a few more minutes.

Aussie_As:fusillade762: Aussie_As: fusillade762: Steven Crowder used the anniversary as an opportunity to contrast Occupy unfavorably to the Tea Party movement.

the Occupy movement "is entirely based on selfish motives" and "based on wanting more free crap."

As opposed to the Tea Party who take to the streets for completely philanthropic motives.

In a lot of red states, aren't the Tea Partiers, through their calls for smaller government and reduced taxation, effectively calling for substantial cuts to their own states from the Fed? It's not selfish. Stupid, on the other hand.

The major beneficiaries of the policies associated with the Tea Party won't be the folks doing most of the rallying. They'll be the wealthy shareholders of large corporations. Like News Corporation, parent of Fox News, for example. They've certainly taken advantage of the generous efforts of the conservative white folks who've happily attended Tea Party rallies.

True. But their ostensible reason for existing is "Taxed Enough Already", it's right there in the TEA part of TEA Party. How is claiming you want to pay less taxes not selfish?

Even as a left-winger, I would have to concede that not all taxes are good and not all government spending/redistribution is ideal. Any taxation measure needs to be imposed as a measure of last resort, although of course many excellent programs are funded through taxation. My point though is that a lot of the folks doing the actual rallying and electing Tea Party Republicans probably wouldn't find their tax bill being very different, but their own communities and districts would face a lot of hardship if there was less Federal money being thrown at them. The very people who actually own Fox News would be MUCH better off though. So many Tea Partyers are not being selfish because they and their communities will be paying just as much of the price of their policies as other communities who receive more than they pay back when it comes to tax dollars.

You're assuming that they know what the true impact of Tea Party policies would be on their tax bill. I don't think most rank-and-file Tea Partiers are that well-informed. All they need to do is believe that it would lower their tax bill. They don't have to be right to be selfish.

But they didn't say that "this was footage from last year". So, they were counting on people thinking the footage is current because they were comparing it to events last week. Plausible deniability. "You just assumed..."