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ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comSun, 02 Aug 2015 20:31:22 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: Phalseinfohttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703800
Mon, 02 Aug 2010 23:05:21 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703800Our Schedule is often tough, however, we don’t hear about those uphill battles. Now the haters, will get to listen to the Raider Nation, All Year Long…. The Commitment is to Excellence…. Babbyyy!!
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Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:23:08 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703799Whe Al enters Raiders heaven then positive will be positive!
]]>By: raiderfanstevehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703798
Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:13:05 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703798hahahaha they could win in the UFL that’s hilarious…. Do you honestly think that’s funny? Amazing how you can actually have THAT boring/stupid of a joke and post it as if it’s funny… incinuating the Raiders can’t compete in the NFL, I’m sure you missed that they beat the Bengals, Eagles and Steelers last year huh? All bad NFL teams right? And that was with Bruce Gradkowski who is clearly less talented than Jason Campbell…
“When they won they won in the trenches” maybe you missed that they spent 3 draft picks in the first four rounds on OL/DL? Again apparently you took the year off from football and still want to comment about the Raiders… Lamarr Houston added to the DL, John Henderson added to the DL, two OL added… What more can you do in one offseason to improve the “trenches” or are you just spewing off things you’ve heard the last 5 years about the Raiders?
They’re a much better team, and I can’t wait for this season… Everyone like the idiot I responded to will have nothing to say and just fade away as the Raiders prove themselves. Also if those of you who commented regarding Jason Campbell’s tenure in Washington think that record was his fault it’s amazingly laughable… Good QBs don’t always win, you can be good in a bad situation, it happens year after year, but you guys wouldn’t know that, because most of you are just saying the same token phrases you’ve heard about the Raiders, this isn’t the same Raiders team, much improved offensively and defensively.
Now let’s start the season so these clowns can finally shut up when the Raiders are winning.
]]>By: frostymugobeerhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703797
Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:57:04 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703797the raiders could “win it all this year”……………………………………………if they join the UFL !
really they have really blown some sweet draft spots,picked up a few solid players but seem to throw away big money on some really bad players(55 mil for javon walker to ride the pine and 62 mil to russell)….that has caught up with them .the only way i see them improving is to get lucky with a back up (gradkowski could become very good) or changing al’s need for speed mentality.
when they won they won in the trenches,not by having speedsters.
]]>By: Raiders757http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703796
Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:27:26 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703796# bigrig says: July 30, 2010 7:02 PM
I’m obviously not a Raider lover like Spacoli, Don, Soldier, but I will say there have been plenty of times [Immaculate Reception, Rob Lytle non fumble, tuck call] where it was obvious the Raiders got screwed.
But you guys lose credibility when you try to claim SB XXXVII would have been a Raider win if not for Gruden, Robbins, and any other excuse you can think of.
You didn’t just get out coached. You got out hit and out performed in every facet of the game. To think anything else is just kidding yourselves.
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I don’t disagree that the Raiders got their ass’s handed to them on a platter that night. Still, to ignore the fact that Gruden knew the Raiders inside and out is just as much you kidding yourself. Even John Lynch admitted as such in an NFL films interview. He spoke of how Gruden trained the Bucs the ins and outs of the Raiders offense, which, mind you, he created. Lynch said they knew where the ball was going on almost every single play, and jumped the routs. It gave the Bucs a huge advantage, which you can’t deny. To do so, would discredit you, as it’s not an excuse, it’s a well known fact.
Now that isn’t to say that the Bucs couldn’t have won the game without this knowledge, but it can be said they had one hell of an advantage. We can all say “well if Dungy were there, the game would have turned out differently”. Thing is, if Dungy were still coach of the Bucs back then, they wouldn’t have even been there. They were not the best team in football that season, the Raiders were. They were the best team that night, but they also had one hell of an advantage. To think they didn’t, proves your a friggin’ dumb ass. Anyone with half a brain can figure out that knowing the other team’s playbook gives you one hell of an unfair advantage.
In the end, I blame the Raiders for not changing things up, knowing they were facing Gruden. The best team did not win that night.
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Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:08:25 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703795Let the haters hate! Thanks, come again.
]]>By: numberfourhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703794
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:57:01 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703794a renaissance of seven and nine
for the raiders is just fine
]]>By: comment_submission_errorhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703793
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:30:44 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703793# ampats says:
Looking forward to seeing who BB selects with the top ten selection in the 2011 draft from the Raiders.
Well, I hope they draft wisely. Remember when they used to be good?
]]>By: Robskihttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703792
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:59:23 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703792Diference is, Al has been awful for the last 20 years except for the period when Gruden molded the team in his image. When Al ran him off, he went back to being the west coast version of Ralph Wilson.
]]>By: KingAl4Prezhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703791
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:09:43 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703791I knew this would happen,
soon as the Raiders get good “Al was less involed”
Complete and total B.S. people just dont want to admit that Al Davis is gonna put a winner on the field, and the Raiders will return to their 1 great run per decade since the 80’s as the usually do, and will be a very good team until about 2014. Wake up people, the media loves to hate Al.
1983-1985
1990-1993
2000-2013
]]>By: NCRaiderDonhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703790
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:08:57 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703790I guess you don’t think too much of Troy Aikman…
Brad Johnsons Superbowl stats..
18/34 215 yds 2td 1INT…psshhh
Hardly great stats…
]]>By: bigrighttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703789
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:02:29 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703789I’m obviously not a Raider lover like Spacoli, Don, Soldier, but I will say there have been plenty of times [Immaculate Reception, Rob Lytle non fumble, tuck call] where it was obvious the Raiders got screwed.
But you guys lose credibility when you try to claim SB XXXVII would have been a Raider win if not for Gruden, Robbins, and any other excuse you can think of.
You didn’t just get out coached. You got out hit and out performed in every facet of the game. To think anything else is just kidding yourselves.
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Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:52:15 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703788@Spacoli,NCDon,Soldier
Total lame copouts. Losing by FOUR touchdowns is an ass whipping in any game regardless of what the other team knows.
Cling to your flimsy excuses if you need to, but in the biggest game your team played in the last TWENTY years they got their asses handed to them.
And if Gruden knew you, didn’t you know Gruden as well?
]]>By: gregpeck99http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703787
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:51:19 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703787Raiders will never compete unless and until they obtain a top 5 QB. The castoff from the Skins will break Raider hearts.
]]>By: 909RaiderLiferhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703786
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:45:49 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703786“The Raiders will be back.”–Uncle Al…
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Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:37:46 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703785armpits: Who’s your daddy?
]]>By: granadafanhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703784
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:21:13 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703784The Raiders will have their Renaissance when the owner relinquishes control of the team. Before the apologists come oozing in, yes, Al WAS a great owner, but that was a long time ago. He’s been an embarassment to the team the past decade or so.
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Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:07:31 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703783To whoever replied to me and the tb SB dude-
Al has made all the decisions, including TBranch Shaugnessy, Miller, Nnamdi, Bush, Huff, Richardson, Scott, and more. They said it was over for Al in 1997 too. Then they shut up for 4 years. He may not be the best, but I’ll take him over 2/3 of the league. It isn’t our fault we had to pay robutussin breat. So
much that he had to be around for 3 years to figure out he sucked. We could have been a mediocre 8-8 last year without the retard under center.
As for the SB look it up. I think we got within 10 in the 4th quarter after going down over 20 . Once again , another box score reader who doesn’t watch the game.
]]>By: Robskihttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703782
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:00:51 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703782So the Raiders had a bad head coach who got totally outcoached by a superior coach who Count Chocula ran out of town the year before. And this somehow is supposed to show that the Raiders were the better team and/or franchise? The Cowboys won a Super Bowl with Barry Switzer (and probably would’ve won in ’94 too if not for a bogus pass interference call). Superior talent can overcome inferior coaching. Face it, the Raiders got smoked that year, not just because of their offense but because their defense made Michael Pittman look like Earl Cambell and Brad Johnson look like Troy Aikman.
]]>By: NCRaiderDonhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703781
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:43:19 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703781Not a chance, Bigrig…they lost by 27 because our “head coach” left knowing everything the Raiders did. You can’t change the playbook in a year, and how could they fathom that they’d be playing the Bucs? Just bad luck…
You can’t honestly say Gruden didn’t know what was coming…they jumped EVERY route the WR’s ran, and Gannon threw 10 INT’s all year …5 in one game? Come on…
The Bucs were a better defense by far, but the Raider offense was much better than the Bucs.
Facts:
In the Super Bowl, Gannon threw a Super Bowl-record five interceptions – three of which were run back for touchdowns – in a 48-21 rout by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Bucs’ stellar defense was aided by the fact that their new head coach was Jon Gruden, who was able to impart to the Buccaneers almost perfect knowledge of the Raiders’ playbook as well as Gannon’s mannerisms and even some audibles, which Oakland coach Bill Callahan had left unchanged since Gruden’s departure
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Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:37:52 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703780@bigrig:
Your an idiot, if dungy coached that tampa team that year raiders win easy. That super bowl raider team was Grudens hand crafted baby. He knew everything about the team. Play book, player tendencies, schemes ect. There is a sound bite from the game where Lynch turns to gruden and says “coach they are doing everything you said they would. Everything…”
Ol bill callahan didnt change a damn thing. You also forget our Pro bowl center (argued to be best in the league at the time) went ape shit the night before. So think about it you dumb ass….
But enough living in the past. The last decade is over and the raiders are definitely righting the ship. So all you haters can suck it!!!! I love being a Raider fan! If not for the sole prupose that we piss all you tools out there off, even when were at our lowest you still hate us. Hahaha watch out for the autumn wind Biatch!!!
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Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:17:59 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703779@NCRaiderDon
Don’t even try to create some scenario where the Raiders almost won their 4th SB in the Tampa game. Oakland lost by 27 points and were never “close” to being competitive.
They were whipped and embarrassed. Admit it.
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Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:49:41 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703778@JSpicoli
The best thing that is happening for Oakland is with the dumping of Russell it looks from the outside like Al might finally be listening instead of running things with his ego.
It’s been obvious for several years Al has lost his fastball. When he relinquishes the football decisions, the Raiders may become relevant in the NFL again. We get the off-season giddiness from Raider fans yearly, so you can understand the rest of us wanting to see some on-field production first.
]]>By: Ray Guyhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703777
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:41:40 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703777“# ampats says: July 30, 2010 4:05 PM
Glad to see my comment hit some nerves of the cross dressing Star Trek/WWE wannabe third world nation of losers from the slums of the Bay area.
Looking forward to seeing who BB selects with the top ten selection in the 2011 draft from the Raiders.”
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Does this guy EVER have an original thought? The “broken record” syndrome gets old. Find some new material. You’re really getting stale.
]]>By: Testifyhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703776
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:36:49 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703776Raider nation….the only nation.
]]>By: bigrighttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703775
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:35:27 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703775Oakland doesn’t play Dallas this year. You guys might want to correct your video.
]]>By: Robskihttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703774
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:33:03 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703774Uh, the Chiefs were in the playoffs three years ago. Even the hapless Bills have been much better since 2002 than Oakland. It’s not even the chronic losing, it’s the awful personnel moves, bad coaching decisions (honestly, could Cable get a job anywhere else in the league except as an o-line coach?), and laughable drafts. All of it plays into the idea of Al Davis as a senile old man who saw the game pass by him 20 years ago. Don’t get me wrong, I’d like to see the Raiders be a competitive NFL team again. I think it’s good for the league to have teams like them, Pittsburgh, Dallas, Chicago, ect in the mix. But I don’t see how one good draft and picking up a crappy QB who wasn’t good enough for a 4-12 Redskin team is suddenly going to pull Oakland off the mat when their only two star players are on the downside of their career.
]]>By: Dasmolhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703773
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:28:04 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703773Just because there are people in costumes and carrying blades doesn’t mean it’s a renaissance.
The raider nation has been armed and in drag for years.
]]>By: SomeFanshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703772
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:27:16 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703772“Looking forward to seeing who BB selects with the top ten selection in the 2011 draft from the Raiders…?”
And typical to the last couple of drafts he won’t know what to do with the pick… wake up, the FREE RIDE IS OVER patzies.
Yes, the pats have traded down for many picks, none of them any good however. The pats have become a soft team, just ask Brady.
]]>By: bodhisattvahttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/30/raiders-ready-for-a-renaissance/#comment-703771
Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:26:52 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=78838#comment-703771The league will be a better place with a competitive Raiders team. Everyone knows this to be true.
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