GSP is a Japanese Nazi

Why? Please tell me what 'meaning' a symbol has beyond that which we ascribe to it?

This is not a magical world of make-believe. Words don't have power. Words are just squiggly lines we made up to represent sounds we make that we've given a commonly understood meaning. The same applies to symbols. They're nothing but random squiggles and lines and colours that mean nothing.

Why is it trolling to point out a basic axiom? Do you not accept this self-evident truth? Or do you simply not understand what 'trolling' actually is and wish to end any rational argument with the newest version of Godwin's Law, i.e. calling someone a troll?

How about you actually provide some intelligent input into the discussion rather than idiotic and baseless assertions?

To your point, if I approached you and your wife(assuming you have one) and rattled off a stream of insults that ended with me telling her to kill herself would you be upset?
After all, spoken words are just a series of sounds that you ascribe meaning to.

Sigh.

One is a string of words. Another is a threat of violence. Can you really not tell the difference between the two?

GSP saw an octopus. Chang saw a symbol of oppression and violence. Who is correct?

I'm on the fence with this as I don't believe that either GSP or Chan have done anything wrong(certainly not with any real intent). George wore a gi symbolising the "Rising Sun",but did he know how bad of an effect it would have or even knew what it really meant?,of course not,I don't think George has it in him to be that inconsiderate or cruel. He made a mistake,Hayabusa apologised,George apologised and he won't be wearing that colour in the gi again. Chan on the other hand writes a very respectful letter and explains to George how it effects his country and culture,knowing fine well that he didn't know how bad it really was,but some people on here that's trying to say that he's been brainwashed blah blah really need a reality check as Chan could've had his own family slaughtered and just because it happened years ago doesn't mean shitt,it's still bad for him and his people.

It should be done as far as I'm concerned. GSP is not a Samurai Nazi Racist and Chan is not a shitt stirrer or racial accuser.

Words don't have power. Words are just squiggly lines we made up to represent sounds we make that we've given a commonly understood meaning. The same applies to symbols. They're nothing but random squiggles and lines and colours that mean nothing.

I am going to use my brain and think, and move on. I try to move away from intolerable backwards people such as yourself, history is not a topic for people with a small concept of the world or those that fail to understand other people unlike themselves.

"know your past to understand your present"

is that?

do you really think I missed that basic point?

I live in a country where there was fascism 50 years ago, buddy.

I like to see behind the lines, I try to understand why are people interested in exposing forgotten dark and tainted meanings that almost nobody remembers of today cultural and non-agressive symbols , specially by a young successful guy like Chang who never in his life saw a bullet coming right above his head.

I tell you a secret, in war, the bad ones aren't that bad, and the good ones aren't that good.

This is just a blatant false equivalency. It's akin to saying that I'm a hypocrite to write a letter to my congressman about global warming if I haven't also written him about police brutality.

To each their own I guess. You think a Gi that an athlete wears is horrible and liken it to atrocities committed 60 years ago, where I see actual atrocities happening in half of Korea in real time and consider that more of an outrage than the clothes someone is wearing. I guess it's easier to point out the trendy twitter-verse "cause celebre" than it is an actual outrage. Much like celebrities jumping on the PETA bandwagon and protesting people who eat meat, but neglect the fact that PETA kills 90% of adoptable dogs and cats surrendered to them. In all honesty, I couldn't care less if GSP wore a Gi adorned with pictures of Bin Laden or Hitler, because his beliefs don't affect mine, I don't watch him for his politics nor do I care what they are, I watch him because I like how he fights. I guess I'm just mentally stronger than the Zombie and don't have to worry about having my core values and beliefs corrupted by a Gi.

lol is this a competition where the most ridiculous examples are allowed?

Pretty much.

I note that every single person that the symbolistas disagree with has said that humanity give meanings to symbols. Or that the symbols themselves have no meaning, only those we, as people, give them. Or a variant thereof. Which causes the symbolistas, en masse, to detail a number of symbols that people have ascribed meanings to. At which point, they stand back and claim oh, look we've proven that symbols have meanings to people and people will act on them and you guys are assholes/idiots/simpletons for thinking they didn't.

Well, whoopie-f---, no s---. I don't think anyone is disputing that people give symbols meaning. It's what people are willing to do because of or in spite of the symbol itself. I know for me, the problem isn't that we give symbols meaning. It's that we give some symbols too much standing and weight.

I'm not sure why Zombie is being thrown under the bus. He wrote probably the most respectful letter he could, yet he's still being flamed for it. I think he even went on to say he felt Georges was the greatrst WW of all time, so the GSP fans can release their sphincter for a second. This isn't a character assassination of GSP, just simply pointing out an error.

I compare it to GSP wearing a confederate flag on his shirt or gi. To someone outside of the US they may not undetstand the significane. The same with the rising sun symbol.

All that needs to happen is a public reply by GSP only the lines of "My bad. I meant no disrespect to anyone, and I apologoze to anyone it may have offended".

To each their own I guess. You think a Gi that an athlete wears is horrible and liken it to atrocities committed 60 years ago, where I see actual atrocities happening in half of Korea in real time and consider that more of an outrage than the clothes someone is wearing. I guess it's easier to point out the trendy twitter-verse "cause celebre" than it is an actual outrage. Much like celebrities jumping on the PETA bandwagon and protesting people who eat meat, but neglect the fact that PETA kills 90% of adoptable dogs and cats surrendered to them. In all honesty, I couldn't care less if GSP wore a Gi adorned with pictures of Bin Laden or Hitler, because his beliefs don't affect mine, I don't watch him for his politics nor do I care what they are, I watch him because I like how he fights. I guess I'm just mentally stronger than the Zombie and don't have to worry about having my core values and beliefs corrupted by a Gi.

Yeah, there are actual atrocities happening in North Korea, yet you're spending your time arguing about whether a gi is offensive or not. Please. Stop chasing the latest "cause celebre" and start doing something to save those poor North Koreans.