If this were to happen the response would immediately be a torrent of missiles raining down on Seoul which is only about 32 miles south of the border. But it would be a remarkable wag the dog moment for obammy about Oct. 15th. And NOTHING out of this marxist narcissist would surprise me./

C'mon now, this is all craziness. We KNOW that North Korea became our new 'Partner for Peace' in the far east after President George W. Bush took Pyongyang OFF the list of terrorist supporting nations in late 2008, and by choosing the path of diplomacy with the famous 'Six Party Talks', North Korea dismantled their nuclear program and became a responsible member of the community of nations. And by NOT listening to those warmongers Cheney and Bolton (arguing for military action both against North Korea AND Iran), George W. Bush was able to pave the way for the late Dear Leader and our current Dear Reader to let the comradely friendship between our two nations blossom.

The Korean War was never ended, there is an armistace. It was a UN action, thank you President Truman for subverting us to this second class status. So, would not the UN now have to approve a restart of a shooting war? Unless NK actually did something directly against the US, alone, where is our authority to in effect declare war upon them regardless of what they did. Why, we never even blew them off the planet after the Pueblo incident of the 60s wherein we had the right to wipe them out IMO.

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posted on 04/18/2012 4:11:57 AM PDT
by Mouton
(Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)

This situation is like having a child and allowing him/her to do whatever they want for much of their lives. Then, suddenly bringing down the rod of correction and expecting an instant end to unruliness.

LMAO!

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posted on 04/18/2012 4:30:00 AM PDT
by wolfcreek
(closed eye mentality is the reason for our current reality)

Ordinarily the Media would be collectively wetting their pants over talk like this. I guess they aren’t because Obama doesn’t want to talk about it. And he doesn’t want to talk about it because it doesn’t fit in with his re-election strategy — which we see involves outraged minorities.

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posted on 04/18/2012 5:24:11 AM PDT
by Tallguy
(It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)

While I have no special knowledge of nuclear weapons or the NK program, I believe they will test again. All known evidence of their previous ones point to "fizzles" in the expected yield. This is likely due to the inablility to remove P-240 impurities from the plutonium they've processed.

We've heard reports the Iranians and Norks have been cooperating on missile and nuclear technology. Three things make this a dangerous pact, if true:

1) The Iranians have reportedly done extensive research on explosives to implode a nuclear core.

2) A failed CIA operation in the 90s supposedly gave the Iranians complete blueprints for a compact warhead design.

3) The North Koreans have several KGs of plutonium for which they cannot/will not give an account.

Admiral Samuel Locklear explained the U.S.'s position on Tuesday at a meeting with South Korean defense journalists at the South Korea-U.S. Combined Forces Command (CFC) in Seoul. Locklear said Washington is closely watching the North in relation to the possibility of a third nuclear test, adding the U.S. and South Korea are looking at all options including a surgical strike.

I'm curious as to why the administration is having a regional military commander say this rather than Hillary Clinton or Leon Panetta.

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posted on 04/18/2012 7:38:31 AM PDT
by VanShuyten
("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")

Japan has the capability to take out the sites themselves. They have quietly acquired air refueling tankers, modified their fighters to air refuel (air refuel doors on F15s were welded shut but all piping was in place) and they have been practicing with US forces for years.

They have four KC-767s and know how to use them by now. They can reach just about anywhere in NK.

Or South Korea, which could/would lose a quarter of its population as a consequence?

If the folks I've met while in SoKo are any representation, then half of them have supported the "appease them with rice and they'll leave us alone" attitude. For those people, the living conditions in the north were not their problem, and the "rice tax" has been an easy way out.

The other half thinks it’s the USA’s fault via keeping that border sealed. They want a East/West Germany solution: open the border, let people go where they want, deal with the problems as preferable to the status quo. (Don’t think NK likes that option.)

Ive thought this over many, many times over the years. Im now thinking that if MacArthur had gotten his way and used tactical nukes to keep the Chinese volunteers out of the war, there would BE no North Korea today. My Dad and his brother were both there during the war. The North Korean army had its ass handed to it after Inchon  they were rabble to begin with, but there was a whole LOT of them. The Chinese were a professional, trained and well-led fighting force. The American army was a shell of its 1945 self and didnt take the NKs seriously  Task Force Smith fought bravely, but was thrown together from occupation forces in Japan and had outdated weaponry  3.5 inch bazooka shells bounced of T34 hulls. Truman was a Rat, pure and simple. Once a DummycRAT, always a DummycRAT.

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posted on 04/18/2012 9:18:01 AM PDT
by Nathaniel
(- A Man Without A Cross -)

Never happen...crazy idea.An all out attack meant to absolutely destroy NK’s military might be reasonable but not a “surgical strike”.South Korea is one of the world's most important economies and Seoul is within easy artillery range of the border.

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posted on 04/18/2012 9:52:01 AM PDT
by Gay State Conservative
(Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)

“The commander of the U.S. Pacific Command says the U.S. may launch a surgical strike against missile bases and nuclear test sites in North Korea if it conducts a third nuclear test.”

There is no way the U.S. is going to strike, and the comment is just planted in the press in a bid to dissuade North Korea from conducting the nuclear test. I just don’t buy it, and the last thing we need is yet another war in another region of the world.

Ive thought this over many, many times over the years. Im now thinking that if MacArthur had gotten his way and used tactical nukes to keep the Chinese volunteers out of the war, there would BE no North Korea today.

I've often wondered about this very scenario.Why didn't Truman,or the Secretary of Defense,state publicly,and communicate privately to the Chinese,something like "any foreign troops entering Korea from the north will be met with a nuclear response".And at the same time it could be communicated to the Soviets (privately,at least) that if *they* wanted to mix it up we'd be happy to oblige.

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posted on 04/18/2012 10:07:20 AM PDT
by Gay State Conservative
(Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)

Get real. Just cut off the food and let them starve. If we strike North Korea then Seoul gets pummeled in retaliation. There is no way to get all their artillery and rocket positions before they have savaged the city.

Obama is an armature. He makes threats he can't carry out, and that means nobody takes him seriously. Threaten to cut off food aid, that is a real threat. Threaten to blockade their coast, that is a real threat. Threaten anything short of all out invasion to push them back out of range of Seoul and they know it is a bluff. And we don't have the forces in theater to actually invade the North so even that would be a bluff without a major buildup first.

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posted on 04/18/2012 11:44:42 AM PDT
by GonzoGOP
(There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)

You and your Dad are exactly right about how we shoulda turned MacArthur loose(r). But my 3.5 inch bazooka didn’t have any real trouble with T-34 sheet iron-—you just had to be closer than he could shoot——that’s the butt-pinching part.

I remember when we flew rice into NK. They would reject the bags with any Korean or Japanese markings. We would have to re-bag the rice in bags with Indian markings. I'm certain that the NK poeple have no idea that their two southern neighbors were feeding them.

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