<p>(It&#39;s) Feature, not a bug</p>
<p>On Feb 24, 2011 5:13 PM, &quot;Dr. Jesus&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:j@hug.gs">j@hug.gs</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution">&gt; Noisebridge isn&#39;t broken.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Patrick Keys &lt;<a href="mailto:citizenkeys@gmail.com">citizenkeys@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; The consideration&#39;s long been done. You are preaching to the choir.<br>&gt;&gt; I&#39;ve long since determined that Noisebridge is broken and also I&#39;m not a<br>&gt;&gt; good fit. The organizational culture at Noisebridge is just too much of<br>
&gt;&gt; a disorganized mess.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; ...But Noisebridge is the only real hackerspace within San Francisco.<br>&gt;&gt; The rest are dull co-working spaces and there&#39;s also TechShop. It has<br>&gt;&gt; almost been worth putting up with the broken-ness of Noisebridge to meet<br>
&gt;&gt; professional contacts, which occasionally does happen. As somebody with<br>&gt;&gt; a business degree, I would have also liked to have said that I<br>&gt;&gt; contributed to somehow making the organization of Noisebridge a better<br>
&gt;&gt; experience.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; As the only hackerspace in &quot;The City&quot;, I would have though initially<br>&gt;&gt; that Noisebridge could be a flagship positive example for other<br>&gt;&gt; hackerspaces, the &quot;Grand Lodge&quot; of Silicon Valley / Northern California<br>
&gt;&gt; hackerspaces, if you will. But that&#39;s never going to happen.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Patrick Keys<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; On 2/24/2011 10:15 AM, Colin Keigher wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Patrick:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; If you&#39;re not welcomed to the space, maybe you should consider not<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; coming? I know that it sucks to be booted from a community but perhaps<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; you&#39;re a square in a round hole there? You know what I mean? It isn&#39;t<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; healthy to try and defend yourself when consensus is up against you.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Maybe cut your loses and consider doing something else? I think that is<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; the best thing you should do from here on.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; All:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; As an outsider and fellow hackerspace-ian, I can understand the troubles<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; that Patrick may be giving you--we&#39;ve run into individuals that have<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; given us grief as well. However, it is really upsetting to see a<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; well-respected hackerspace bring themselves down to the level where<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; there is public fighting on an open mailing list. It seems to damage the<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; integrity of Noisebridge and only serves as an example of what not to do.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Perhaps what should be done is what we do at our hackerspace and keep<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; this sort of dramatics to a members-only mailing list.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; - Colin<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On 2/24/11 9:17 AM, Patrick Keys wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ATTENTION EVERYBODY:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; GET A LIFE!<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ANYBODY THAT CAN&#39;T THINK OF ANYTHING MORE INTERESTING THAN ME TO DISCUSS<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; OBVIOUSLY HAS NO LIFE.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; MOVE ON!<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Patrick Keys<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
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