The simple fact that this is being discussed openly and pursued by an agency like Elections Canada says that things are not nearly as far gone as some
would claim.

If Harper is found to be guilty (or the PC's), I imagine the GC would be forced to call an election. Harper (or the offending persons) will be
charged and we will move on to 12 years of Liberaldom (again).

I see this as a clear sign that Canada and Canadians will not tolerate the BS that seems to run rampant in other countries.

Originally posted by peck420
I see this as a clear sign that Canada and Canadians will not tolerate the BS that seems to run rampant in other countries.

I sure hope you're right. truth is, I haven't seen such a tomato fight in ages. Every day brings hot new spaghetti sauce.

The burners are turned up to 10:

The “robo-call” and voter-suppression scandal is rapidly threatening to become a full-blown political crisis for Stephen Harper’s
Conservatives, with the number of ridings where dirty tricks are alleged to have skewed races in the last federal election climbing to almost 30.

The Commissioner of Canada Elections, who enforces the Elections Act, has confirmed he is investigating complaints related to “crank calls
designed to discourage voting, discourage voting for a particular party, or incorrectly advise electors of changed polling locations.”

The Tories have denied engineering a voter suppression scheme but acknowledged at the same time that a rogue staffer might have done things without
campaign consent.

Amazing rogue. 30 ridings across the country. He must have been very busy.

A young Conservative staffer involved in a controversial 2011 election campaign in the Ontario riding of Guelph has just left the office of MP Eve
Adams.

Michael Sona, 23, had been working for about a week in the office of Ms. Adams, the Conservative MP for the Toronto-area riding of
Mississauga–Brampton South. A source said Mr. Sona resigned Thursday evening

Oh... almost forgot Canada's more liberal newspaper to see what they've found:

OTTAWA—Callers on behalf of the federal Conservative Party were instructed in the days before last year’s election to read scripts telling
voters that Elections Canada had changed their voting locations, say telephone operators who worked for a Thunder Bay-based call centre.

These weren’t “robo-calls,” as automated pre-recorded voice messages as commonly known. They were live real-time calls made into ridings across
Canada, the callers say.

In a new twist on new growing allegations of political “dirty tricks,” three former employees of RMG — Responsive Marketing Group Inc.’s call
centre in Thunder Bay — told the Star about the scripts.

“We made around six million calls during the Election to identify our supporters and get them out to vote.”

Fascinating

Well, that's rather special, isn't it? I'm starting to think something is really going to stick on those spiffy suits. Actually, The above story is an
interesting read in full and I'd advise Canadians to click on the link.

Elections Canada has been deluged by 31,000 complaints in relation to last year’s ballot, focused mainly on robo-calls and other harassing phone
calls.

The non-partisan agency received 500 complaints in relation to the previous election in 2008, and 329 in relation to the 2006 ballot.

The explosion in complaints is related in large part to widespread media coverage of alleged fraudulent robo-calls in the Ontario riding of Guelph, as
well as other alleged irregularities in dozens of other ridings.

Things are really getting out of hand for the tories. If there's to be elections called in ridings where this happened, because the complaints
outnumber the difference between the winner and loser, there's a good chance the government may lose their majority.

The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission gets involved:

Deluged with a staggering volume of grievances about fraudulent calls in the last election, Elections Canada is referring some complainants to
another federal regulator – the CRTC – that also has a responsibility to police the country’s phone lines.

I guess it takes time for the dullards (not you) on The Hill to take notice of the possibility that our Democratic parliamentary system may
have been hijacked.

Considering the prevalence of the story behind Grapes shooting one across Burke's bow last Saturday night, it seems most Canadians don't really worry
or even care about democracy anymore. I wonder why?

I've been saying for a week now that we need to consider pro-rouging the House and Senate to my friends and anyone that will listen. Harper did it
before, we as Canadians should demand it now, so no more bills can be passed through the House until we have a chance to see who's got the sticky
fingers in this situation.

Yeah, no Canadian wants to believe that a party hijacked an election. Even though Harper's party pleaded guilty to election spending fraud last year
and was held in contempt of Parliament for lying to Canadians.

It's amazing to me how this all happened and honestly if nothing happens of this Robo Call business, I might consider becoming an ex-patriot and
moving to a country that at least pretends to care about it's citizens.

I'm thinking Denmark or one of those other nice Canadian climate like nations in Europe.

Honestly I think it's apathy mixed in with misunderstand of how our system works. There are not enough Canadians involved in the political system to
really scare out politicians. Mind you they were never the kind to pass these restrictive type of laws, our government use to worry about budgets and
various other social programs.

Not putting Canadians in jail for no reason, building new prisons, rigging elections and attempting to spy illegaly on us.

the biggest money lobbyest ever, Jack Abrahmoff is out of jail
On the Joyce Riley show today he said all the elections in the west are rigged
( he also said Ron Paul is the only Honest polititian he knows of)

Ron Paul being an actual conservative and others like Buddies Bush, and Harper, and Howard, the Liberal (Oz) being Globalist ...out to dismantle thier
respective nationalities..
*sigh*- all enemies foreign and domestic

And, From the most conservative accredited newspaper in Canada, we have this gem:

OTTAWA — More than a dozen Conservative MPs hired a U.S.-based telemarketing firm in the last federal election campaign, contrary to Prime
Minister Stephen Harper’s claim that it was only the Liberals who employed American calling firms.

The revelation comes as a political embarrassment to the governing Tories, who are on the defensive in the growing robocall controversy and had tried
in the House of Commons to embarrass their critics.

Records show that Front Porch Strategies, based in Columbus, Ohio, conducted telephone work for 14 Conservative candidates in last spring’s federal
election. The firm was founded in 2006 by Matthew D. Parker, who has done extensive work for Republican politicians in the U.S.

Oh, my...

And, who are Front Porch Strategies?

Front Porch Strategies is an award winning international voter contact and constituent communications firm based out of Columbus, Ohio. Our
passion is helping Republican candidates, elected officials, and conservative causes win by personally connecting them with voters and
constituents.*

This is nuts because it does come from the Conservative paper. Is anyone besides the Harper Government themselves actually in their defense, or have
all the rats left the ship at this point? I haven't seen much... except from the Globe and Mail.

“From the point of view of anybody concerned about our political system, it’s a non-scandal,” says Michael Bliss, the eminent historian.
But parliamentary politics is such a bear pit that, in the absence of a real scandal (such as the sponsorship affair), a non-scandal will have to do.
Opposition politicians, along with a fair portion of the media, have clamped on to the Harper government like a pack of rabid chihuahuas. They’ve
escalated the rhetoric so much that you’ve got to wonder what they’ll say when a real scandal comes along.

Originally posted by Slaanesh
Has anyone else stayed on the ship that you've seen?

In a word... no.

Only the PMO and Inner Cabinet are continuing to stay the course, with fingers pointed at everyone but themselves and even going so far as to blame
Elections Canada for those phone calls (even though Elections Canada is on record saying they never call citizens.

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