Classic case of pathogenic invasion, most likely from a gastrointestinal bug. Based on the immune response, I would think it is either rogue bacteria or a protozoa infection. I would rule out fungal/yeast or virus, at least as the primary infection.... ... Clear the infection and this will go away. ... ... [End]
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People report ’white rice’ in their stools if they have tapeworms. The white rice is actually the eggs. ... ... Typically worms (not tapes or flukes) have a tapered head or tail and have a stable cylindrical shape. ... ... Flukes are reported to look like rolled up tomato skin. ... ... Testing can be helpful, ParaWellness Labs is one of the recommended labs. [End]
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I used neem with boswellia (frankincense), oil of oregano (enteric coated from NOW) and myrrh. ... ... This was the formula that killed roundworm after trying numerous other products. ... ... I have been on this board for a long time and cannot tell you when I saw conclusive proof of DE, Hulda Clark products, black walnut etc ever working. ... ... The problem is that very few (I underline very) ever come back to report their results which leaves others in the dark. In fact most people (80%) will never respond to their original post. [End]
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You can try ParaWellness Labs, at least read his website. Parasite testing is hit or miss and I am not sure how helpful this is in terms of resolving the problem. By that I mean that doctors are not equipped in treating this for the most part. Generally they will follow the guidelines of known remedies which for many is not enough in terms of duration or getting the right drug to target this. ... ... Testing can be helpful in terms of identifying classifications. There are many types of pathogens that can inhabit the gut including bacteria, yeast, protozoa parasites, viruses and worm (flukes)p ...
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There are many types of organisms to can inhabit the gut, for instance this could be a bad bacteria. ... ... I would talk to a doctor to see if testing can be done. For parasite testing, I would use ParaWellness Labs. ... ... I would NOT use black walnut/wormwood for 2 reasons:... ... 1/ This is not effective against protozoa in most cases. If the pathogen is bacteria then likely this product would not work. ... ... 2/ I would be concerned about the safety for young children. ... ... [End]
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Some people have reported ’white rice’ in their stools which are not the segments but rather the eggs. ... ... Send a specimen to ParaWellness Labs. You can also use Google Images to see what tapeworm eggs look like. Tapeworms are the only parasite in which eggs can be seen as far as I know. [End]
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You are welcome, thanks for the feedback.... ... B vitamins can be tricky. Too much of one may suppress the others. B12 works with folic acid so too much B12 could have an adverse effect. B vitamins are much like minerals in that there are antagonist and agonist situations. B2 is overlooked and is very helpful for the immune system. ... ... There are some ”balanced b vitamins” meaning they put the optimal ratios in them. I think Country Life had this, at least last time I checked. There are also co-enzymated b vitamins which help metabolize easier. ... ... You might want to look at the benefits of tau ...
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Nutritional:... 1/ Sore tongue is usually a sign of b vitamin deficiency. Vitamin B2 comes to mind... ... 2/ Magnesium loss is likely. Diabetes, blood pressure, adrenal issues, weakened immunity, weakened detox are associated with low magnesium. High Absorption Magnesium from Doctors Best has given very good results. ... ... 3/ Iron. I would not be taking iron with an infection - iron helps biofilms form and you have an infection in a biofilm environment then they are almost impossible to completely eradicate.... ... Other:... The use of lactoferrin reduces biofilms, it was the most effective biofilm prot ...
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MIZMAC makes some good points but remember that parasites are not the only pathogen that can inhabit the gut. Rogue bacteria, yeast/fungal strains and viruses could be to blame. [End]
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MCS is just a stagnant liver - the stagnant liver is most likely caused by infections. I clear the liver by using milk thistle type products, TCM, choline, taurine, b vitamins. ... ... I find when detoxing the liver that using something to soak up the toxins is best, this prevents more inflammation (sickness), personally I use bulk charcoal but have also used clays (bentonite, pascalite etc).... ... Disclaimer information is for educational purposes only. [End]
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The symptomatology is due to infections as you have observed. You have two choices, the first is identification so you can target (see below for testing labs) or using bombing techniques meaning using a wide array of antimicrobials that can cover a wide spectrum of pathogens. ... ... There are a host of different organisms which means there is not a one size fits all approach in terms of treatment. For instance most of the common ’parasite cleanses’ may not touch your infection so do not be fooled by this thinking (I hope that I am not offending anyone with this statement). ... ... Antimicrobials ...
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The color of the stools indicates infection, or could be a lack of bile as the previous poster stated. Usually with low bile the stools turn clay colored... http://www.mayoclinic.org/stool-color/expert-answers/FAQ-20058080. The link indicates that yellow stool may indicate malabsorption, gluten sensitivity or celiac which has infectious origins. ... ... The GI tract is the most susceptible for contracting infection and medical testing is woefully inadequate in finding stealth infections. ... ... There can a number of pathogens that can harbor the gut including viruses, yeast/fungal, parasites (worm ...
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The link does not work.... ... There are thousands of varieties of pathogens, however these varieties can be put into categories which makes it easier to manage. For instance nematodes (worms)are one classification and broad spectrum treatment should cover a large swath. ... ... Testing with most doctors only covers a small percentage of pathogens. Lastly, there are pathogens that have not been officially classified as pathogenic. ... ... I would suggest contacting ParaWellness Labs and read his material and bio. He was a military doctor in Vietnam and is very thorough. ... ... The curing of the psoriasis ...
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Tough to tell, I have never heard of this. Some of my thoughts (guesses):... ... 1/ They do not resemble any worm associated thing I am aware of. ... ... 2/ I do not think they are protozoa or bacteria related. ... ... 3/ Tapes have visible seed-like objects found in the stool which are the eggs. These do not look like seeds.... ... Possibly some yeast or fungal strain, but the casing does not fit this unless this is an immune type of reaction. I have seen pics of a gelatin type show up in stools. This shows up in a golden like color. Perhaps the interior is some type of fungal/yeast and the outer casing ...
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I used pantothenic acid, vitamin C and various other supplements to stop the bad reactions of the adrenals. It was the glandulars that finally stabilized the adrenals. ... ... I did NOT use the glandulars with licorice, that was a nightmare. Licorice will stimulate adrenal function, so not a good idea. ... ... Some people have reported that glandulars caused some problems. [End]
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Liver congestion happens frequently with immune activity. The immune system produces toxic byproducts that are used to kill infections, these byproducts attack cell membranes and put burdens on the liver to detoxify. ... ... Magnesium plays a key role in many functions of the body including glutathione production which is necessary for liver function. ... ... Magnesium is also wasted during any form of stress with biological stress being one of the most trying. Magnesium also supports adrenal function, cellular function and so on. Other electrolytes are wasted as well. ... ... For myself, I used herba ...
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I manage the pptu.lefora forum and have read countless stories. Protozoa as a class of parasites share similar properties meaning what works for a specific parasite well may work for another. ... ... The people who have eradicated them have tried different combinations. ... ... If you read Dr. Stensvold who is a leading researcher, he has stated that there is no defined protocol that works.... ... Alinia with Paromomycin is a good combo, Alinia/Ivermectin/Doxycycline cured another. [End]
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Infections create a toxic environment for the body so the symptoms of thinning hair, anxiety, sleep problems and so on are as a result of immune activation. Supporting the body with nutrition is necessary. ... ... Seeing seeds in the stool could be caused by certain foods, if that is not the case then I would suspect either a yeast overload or tapeworms. (I hope that does not scare you). Take a look at these images and see if that matches yours... ... https://www.google.com/search?q=tapeworm+eggs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiupdH9zMvTAhUl4IMKHcoGBMcQ_AUIBigB&biw=1233&bih=863... ... ParaWellne ...
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Parasites are a wide spectrum, meaning there is seldom a one size fits all treatment. Protozoa are quite diverse. There are a number of meds that could treat these and oftentimes you have to find the right combination. Cocktails seem to work better meaning using more than 1 med. Badbugs.org has testimonies of different combinations. ... ... Common protozoa meds include Flagyl, its cousins Tinidazole, secdinazole. Alinia, paromomycin, ivermectin, doxycycline, Septra, albendazole and others. ... ... Protozoa will suck the life right out of you causing massive fatigue. They evoke strong immune react ...
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There is always a risk when going to a doctor. Many have experienced disappointing results but there is a chance they could help. ... ... Here is a list of labs/doctors that have some track record. http://patrickrambling-pb.blogspot.com/2012/12/lessons-from-parasites.html [End]
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You should allow for PM or email so people can contact you directly. ... ... Please give some specifics on what treatments you tried. ... ... There could be a number of possibilites which means you group certain therapies together. ... ... 1/ Viral ... ... 2/ Bacterial or bacteria like such as mycoplasma or l form bacteria.... ... 3/ Agressive yeast/fungal ... ... 4/ Parasitic - which is 3 categories (nematodes (worms), protozoa or flat worm (cestodes)). ... ... One of the keys is bombing techniques which means using combinations. Many of these combinations have cross killing ability which means that these techniques ...
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My first guess would be a stagnant liver - I knew someone with the same problem and after he stopped the smoke, he was better. I would suggest that the smoke is toxic and the liver cannot handle the detoxification. ... ... When the liver is congested then toxins are not broken down properly so they recirculate. Adrenals are forced to deal with the toxins. Then a whole new cascade of problems ensues. ... ... Antioxidants reduce toxins which in turn stops adrenals from reacting. Getting the liver back to optimal health should solve some of the problems. ... ... [End]
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Organisms can feed on a variety of things which means that more than likely something you are consuming is allowing the pathogens to grow. You will have to experiment with the diet, as I do not believe there is a one size fits all approach.... ... Undigested food is a sign of immune activation (inflammation). ... ... [End]
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Protozoa are hardy parasites and you have to keep constant pressure on them. I have found that most of the information published is not thorough enough. (I host an outside forum at pptu.lefora and know these creatures quite well and have experimented with a number of remedies). ... ... Protozoa is a diverse species meaning that there is not a one size fits all treatment protocol. I can list out a more comprehensive protocol if you like. ... ... Regarding the flukes, I would question whether a 2 day course of prazi is sufficient. Doctors tend to under-prescribe meds. Mattk3 and ICU have protocols l ...
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Please list the name of the Chinese medicine that she is taking. I am presuming it has some Golden Thread in it. ... ... Here is something that might help:... ... From http://patrickrambling-pb.blogspot.com/2012/12/lessons-from-parasites.html... ... h/ Dr. Glen Wilcox (New Mexico) - LINK ... I have not spoken to their office but was told that you can call them for a parasite testing kit which the cost is $369 as of this writing. From what I understand he uses a lab outside of the United States who reportedly is good, finding parasites that other labs failed at. Dr. Wilcox does not prescribe drugs, ...
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I presume that they checked for h pylori? Did they check your levels of digestive enzymes? With digestive enzymes there would be the stomach producing ones (HCl and pepsin) and the pancreatic ones (lipase, proteases etc).... ... There can be a number of pathogens that harbor the gut including rogue bacteria, yeast/fungal, viruses and parasites which include the protozoa species. ... ... You could read Jordon Rubin’s (sp) book in which he got rid of a GI problem with fermented foods and other changes. Fermented foods act as prebiotics that allow healthy bacteria to grow. This could be effective if ...
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Infections produce high amounts of oxidative stress which create damage in the body. It is important to maintain high levels of nutrients in the body. ... ... Antioxidants neutralize free radical damage which protect the body. [End]
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Obviously I would suspect that the gut is harboring an infection, there can be a number of pathogens that can inhabit the gut. ... ... Parasite testing is very hit or miss with the miss part more prevalent. Parasites come into 3 categories, worms (nematodes), cestodes (flukes, flat worms) and protozoa which are the least understood. ... ... Rogue bacteria can harbor in the gut as well which will trigger these symptoms. Yeast/fungal is another possibility as well as viruses. It is obvious that there is some pathogen based on your symptomology. ... ... My suspicion is protozoa or rogue bacteria based on ...
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Infections take a lot out of the body, whether you are dealing with a parasite is largely unknown. Nausea could be a tell tale sign that there is something in the gut triggering an immune reaction. Other possibilities are yeast or some rogue bacteria. ... ... Infections draw resources out of the body and fatigue and stress are good signs of infection. ... ... Magnesium loss occurs with activation and magnesium is vital for many function, particularly energy production. Tension headaches can be caused by mag loss. ... ... Infections also create a high oxidation state in the body and this oxidation caus ...
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Good story, the relationship between the gut environment and the neurological system is growing in understanding. ... ... My question is why take him off the meds? ... ... [End]
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Need a measurement, what is the size of these? Do you see tapered ends such as one of the pics on the first post.... ... Rolled up tomato skins?... ... Did you get sick after going to Dubai? [End]
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Have you seen any white rice in your stool? Any other information such as travel, pets, other history? Did these come out after taking meds?... ... Please provide a reference for the size of these objects. [End]
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I agree with shroom about the items showing up in the stool. When the gut is damaged then you get undigested foods. shroom brings up a good point about enzymes which are necessary for the breakdown of food. You have 2 sets of digestive enzyme functions, the first is the stomach which involves HCl and pepsin, I believe both of these are directed towards the digestion of animal products. ... ... The second system involves the pancreas which secretes a number of different enzymes such as lactase (enzyme that digests diary), lipase (digests fats) and a whole bunch more. There are supplemental enzy ...
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Zoonotic infections are pathogens that are transmitted from animals to humans. The link is from the CDC about these infections.... ... https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/animals.html [End]
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Reposting this response about testing:... ... Testing is hit or miss and this has been confirmed by doctors I talked to. Most labs use microscopy to detect the ova (eggs) or markers for protozoa (cysts, trophozoites).... ... The life cycle of parasites starts from the ova and then goes from there, the ’things’ people see (visible) could be the adult stage. The one thing to look for are the tapered heads or tails*. Where tapes usually shed visible ova which appears as white rice.... ... *the juvenile life cycle is the stage after ova and before adult. These can be viewed under a low power microscope (1 ...
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Testing is hit or miss and this has been confirmed by doctors I talked to. Most labs use microscopy to detect the ova (eggs). ... ... The life cycle of parasites starts from the ova and then goes from there, the ’things’ people see (visible) could be the adult stage. The one thing to look for are the tapered heads or tails*. Where tapes usually shed visible ova which appears as white rice. ... ... *the juvenile life cycle is the stage after ova and before adult. These can be viewed under a low power microscope (10-40x) and under this magnification, you can clearly see the tapers and some have a do ...
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No, I am not saying that. My guess (read that guess) would be nematodes of some sort. ... ... After all these years of reading posts, studying and conducting experiments on myself, I have come to the conclusion that many things are not so cut and dried. ... ... One has to be a scientist which means you come up with a theory, propose an action, take the action then review the process to match the outcome to the theory. Continue this process until you achieve the desired results. This is not meant to talk down to you btw but is useful information for all of us. ... ... Identification can be quite helpfu ...
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In the parasite world you have 3 classes:... ... 1/ Protozoa - which are microscopic.... ... 2/ Nematodes - these are worms like roundworm.... ... 3/ Cestodes - these are tapes or flukes... ... So rule out protozoa. One sign of tapes is ’white rice’ in the stool, and for flukes, people report seeing ’rolled up tomato skins’. There are many species of nematodes and it would be safe to say that they would respond to the same types of treatments. ... ... ParaWellness Labs is one of the better labs, they charge ~$300 for a test. He is very thorough. [End]
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A collection of recipes for pinworms:... http://pptu.lefora.com/topic/7412051/Pinworm-recipes#.WNjJv-ZtenI... ... I got rid of roundworms using neem, boswellia, myrrh and enteric coated oil of oregano. [End]
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