No he was reserved about buying both consoles. The x1 just interested him more. That's not a crime.

Not sure if he was saying that it was [a crime.] Although I don't see how X1's launch line up is any better than PS4's. It's all subjective so it's a bit weird that he's so quick to defend himself over his past behavior (he started the post by saying "....everyone lambasted him for...."

I'm just saying that if you're not interested in Killzone or any other exclusives on the PS4, you can wait it out. Same as if you're not interested in Ryse or any other exclusives on the Xbox One, you can wait it out.

Not sure if he was saying that it was [a crime.] Although I don't see how X1's launch line up is any better than PS4's. It's all subjective so it's a bit weird that he's so quick to defend himself over his past behavior (he started the post by saying "....everyone lambasted him for...."

I'm just saying that if you're not interested in Killzone or any other exclusives on the PS4, you can wait it out. Same as if you're not interested in Ryse or any other exclusives on the Xbox One, you can wait it out.

I agree it's completely subjective. That's why I don't feel the same as 33x. He's simply referring to the fact that his opinion about the launch lineup was not well received by many here. He liked the lineup on x1 more. I Didn't but he did. I Would be glad to discuss this through pm if you like to avoid further derailment which I do apologize for. Carry on.

I have never said i wanted one other the other, i said i wanted BOTH. i was brought a ps4 for xmas and still WILL get a xb1 in a few months./

Dont try and paint me as summit im not.

The ps4 AND xb1 both lack great games. (yes i knew this before launch before you run with that again)

Originally Posted by sainraja

Not sure if he was saying that it was [a crime.] Although I don't see how X1's launch line up is any better than PS4's. It's all subjective so it's a bit weird that he's so quick to defend himself over his past behavior (he started the post by saying "....everyone lambasted him for...."

I'm just saying that if you're not interested in Killzone or any other exclusives on the PS4, you can wait it out. Same as if you're not interested in Ryse or any other exclusives on the Xbox One, you can wait it out.

No need to defend myself. Both consoles interested me, the xb1 lineup did sway me a little more but i havent got one so try again!

Originally Posted by Suzano-O

You were lambasted because you were, and still are, wrong in regards to both consoles...

I don't see anyone in here complaining that they bought either one and haven't enjoyed playing a single game on them since dooing so :/ ...

Im not the only person to state the launch line up is $#@!. So once again....try harder

Just look at the PC, how many F2P games are there? Literally hundreds. What's common about a good 30% of them? They're all profitable because they're the best of the crowd that caters towards a particular gamer. I've noticed this for quite a while now that with B2P or subscription based games people sometimes won't buy the game or subscribe after a month because they don't feel they'll get their money worth. The best thing about F2P is that you can play the game and if you want something or feel the developer deserves money then you can purchase something from the in-game store.

The problem here is the in-game store, League of Legends does it very nicely where everything is free except for skins and XP boosters, not game changing in any way but makes it aesthetically pleasing and makes it so that you can get to tournaments quicker by getting to level 30 faster. Guild Wars does it decently well too as all you do is purchase skins, XP boosters, and other convenience items that doesn't affect the gameplay, however all that can be gotten with in-game gold - it just takes a whole lot longer that way instead.

LOTR Online does an even better thing where you can purchase the expansion packs with in-game gold as well as other perks that makes you better. It's a crazy grind but if you're playing LOTRO a lot then you probably wouldn't mind it.

So far War Thunder and Warframe are pretty decent, most things you can get with in-game credits or you can rush things buy spending real money. War Thunder has some planes that are purchasable only via the PSN store and Warframe has some weapons and other things like colours and such that can only be purchase with real money too but overall it seems to be a pretty good model to work from and fair.

So no over-saturation isn't a bad thing, in fact there are more than likely more MMO players playing at any one time than there are console gamers at any one time playing and by a HUGE margin, bring that to the PS4 and you'll see a lot of people migrate, but they'll also need to have a way of having a much better social interactivity, bringing Teamspeak or Ventrilo to PS4 would also be something huge.

I have never said i wanted one other the other, i said i wanted BOTH. i was brought a ps4 for xmas and still WILL get a xb1 in a few months./

Dont try and paint me as summit im not.

The ps4 AND xb1 both lack great games. (yes i knew this before launch before you run with that again)

No need to defend myself. Both consoles interested me, the xb1 lineup did sway me a little more but i havent got one so try again!

Im not the only person to state the launch line up is $#@!. So once again....try harder

Anyone wants to discuss further, please PM me.

Derailed!

You missed my point. It's all opinion based -- varies from person to person. I don't think I need to explain that to you.

You don't like the launch line-up and that is all well and good -- but stop trying to push that opinion as fact (you'll say you aren't, but you do come off that way.)

You are just giving more weight to those people who seem to share your opinion (and they may have realized it after getting the console but the line-up was never a secret so why did they get the console? -- they should have done the same as you.)

Anyway, the way I see it, you tried to justify what you've said in the past in this thread (the reason I see your post here as defending that very behavior.)

You missed my point. It's all opinion based -- varies from person to person. I don't think I need to explain that to you.

You don't like the launch line-up and that is all well and good -- but stop trying to push that opinion as fact (you'll say you aren't, but you do come off that way.)

You are just giving more weight to those people who seem to share your opinion (and they may have realized it after getting the console but the line-up was never a secret so why did they get the console? -- they should have done the same as you.)

Anyway, the way I see it, you tried to justify what you've said in the past in this thread (the reason I see your post here as defending that very behavior.)

Im sorry, but are others not allowed to have an opinion? Do we have to like the launch line up? I get that your over the moon with the launch line up, but i AND others are not!

This is kind of like the intermittent random message from some guys that have to get online to say they have become bored with video gaming. My personal feeling is "Who gives a flying flip?" but with so much emotional hypersensitivity, that free speech is forbidden. I remember several years ago, the message boards started being filled with messages from guys that were "sick and tired of FPS". Now, many years later, what do we have? CoD FPS sells in the millions. There is still FPS everywhere and no signs of that genre fading away. The point is every person is going to go through their ups and downs, which is going to affect their feelings about video gaming. Some people find Candy Crush fascinating and addictive. To others, it makes them hurl. Different strokes for different folks.

The PS4 seems to have a good supply of games coming. The subject title is basically wrong or at least incomplete: "Nothing to play until March" -- FOR YOU. For others, there are quite a few games to play until then. Also, this statement is neglecting the fact that several games could show up on the PS store before then. Maybe every one won't be a great game but it will be something to play. There is also Thief and Rayman Legends in Feb, Planetside 2 maybe. January and February tend to be slow anyway from burnout over the holidays and all the other events of a new year. It's true the major AAA titles don't start showing up until March and it could be said in comparison there is nothing else to play. Sony might be saying some more at CES 2014, in only a few weeks.

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This is kind of like the intermittent random message from some guys that have to get online to say they have become bored with video gaming. My personal feeling is "Who gives a flying flip?" but with so much emotional hypersensitivity, that free speech is forbidden. I remember several years ago, the message boards started being filled with messages from guys that were "sick and tired of FPS". Now, many years later, what do we have? CoD FPS sells in the millions. There is still FPS everywhere and no signs of that genre fading away. The point is every person is going to go through their ups and downs, which is going to affect their feelings about video gaming. Some people find Candy Crush fascinating and addictive. To others, it makes them hurl. Different strokes for different folks.

The PS4 seems to have a good supply of games coming. The subject title is basically wrong or at least incomplete: "Nothing to play until March" -- FOR YOU. For others, there are quite a few games to play until then. Also, this statement is neglecting the fact that several games could show up on the PS store before then. Maybe every one won't be a great game but it will be something to play. There is also Thief and Rayman Legends in Feb, Planetside 2 maybe. January and February tend to be slow anyway from burnout over the holidays and all the other events of a new year. It's true the major AAA titles don't start showing up until March and it could be said in comparison there is nothing else to play. Sony might be saying some more at CES 2014, in only a few weeks.