I'm confused. My estimated reward shows 0.8 BTC although according to my calculations it should be around 50 * 2 / 60 = 1.6 BTC. My miners were down because of a crash, but I've been contributing 2.1 GH/s since two days. How long does it take for the algorithm to bring my contribution to its full value? When I was back in Continuum, it wouldn't take more than 15 minutes. Although, I know you guys are using different algorithm f and c parameters. Is there a chance we're back to proportional again?

By the way, thank you "ludicrously long block" for waiting for me to start contributing

I'm confused. My estimated reward shows 0.8 BTC although according to my calculations it should be around 50 * 2 / 60 = 1.6 BTC. My miners were down because of a crash, but I've been contributing 2.1 GH/s since two days. How long does it take for the algorithm to bring my contribution to its full value? When I was back in Continuum, it wouldn't take more than 15 minutes. Although, I know you guys are using different algorithm f and c parameters. Is there a chance we're back to proportional again?

By the way, thank you "ludicrously long block" for waiting for me to start contributing

I know it's not my concern but where are your numbers coming from?

My numbers are 50 (coins per block) / 6514441 (shares for this damned block when I looked) * 37668 (my shares when I looked) = 0.28911153 (my est. reward when I looked)

My numbers are 50 (coins per block) / 6514441 (shares for this damned block when I looked) * 37668 (my shares when I looked) = 0.28911153 (my est. reward when I looked)

But that's exactly the calculation for proportional pay? I thought we're using Meni's algorithm that compares exponents of total and your shares. So I was looking in the "ideal" case, by dividing my hashrate to the total hashrate. Because Meni's algorithm uses exponential decay, this is what you should get at the "steady-state". That is, after you contributed long enough. That's why I was asking how long it takes to catch up.

I remember Inaba and Meni discussing it further back in the thread but I understand it about as well as a woman understands going to Walmart to buy a specific item and then leaving.

It's ok, we can tolerate it because you're the topic idiot

BTW, you're probably right, using my round shares (111016) in your calculation gives the estimated reward, so we must be using proportional pay. Or I entered this round too late and the leading contributors have much larger number of shares that makes it look like I'm getting proportional pay.

The estimated is still based on proportional. I haven't had enough time to figure out a non-server destroying method for calculation estimated rewards based off of the Meni's algorithm in real time. For this block, the estimated rewards are going to be way off.

I'll see what I can do about that today, hopefully I will have time this afternoon to sit down and get some work in edgewise.

But payout is calculated on the geometric score when the round ends.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it. There was never anything there in the first place.

The estimated is still based on proportional. I haven't had enough time to figure out a non-server destroying method for calculation estimated rewards based off of the Meni's algorithm in real time. For this block, the estimated rewards are going to be way off.

I'll see what I can do about that today, hopefully I will have time this afternoon to sit down and get some work in edgewise.

But payout is calculated on the geometric score when the round ends.

Ah, I was suspecting this may be the case. Then, it's no problem.

Maybe the simplest way to implement the geometric reward algorithm in real time is to keep "S" (sum of user's collected score) everytime we submit a share by incrementing it by r^i, where i is the user's round shares. You're already maintaining the total number of shares "I", so it would be easy to calculate: R=(1-f)*B*S*(r-1)/r^I (taken from Meni's original post).

Inaba, I have no problem with the estimate still being proportional. I think an easy way to get a more accurate estimate would be to take the 15 min average total hash rate from the my workers page * 50 / pool hash rate.