Kafka? Or vodka? I got drunk and thought I turned into a bug once. Then me and Gregor went to Algeria and killed a guy on the beach. Then the Cure wrote a song about it.... Didn't I push this boulder up this hill already... where am I? I'm cold and there's wolves after me...

Kafka? Or vodka? I got drunk and thought I turned into a bug once. Then me and Gregor went to Algeria and killed a guy on the beach. Then the Cure wrote a song about it.... Didn't I push this boulder up this hill already... where am I? I'm cold and there's wolves after me...

Peace and Love and Empathy,

Matt

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(27-11-2012 06:34 PM)lucradis Wrote: Egor: Thank you for answering, especially with such an honest albeit crazy answer. Being in the mental health business doesn't something like this worry you or set off alarms? I hope you aren't crazy.

Whatever. If you don't sense an observer in your consciousness, then I pity you. You're nothing more than an animal. It's no wonder you're an atheist.

(27-11-2012 06:34 PM)lucradis Wrote: Egor: Thank you for answering, especially with such an honest albeit crazy answer. Being in the mental health business doesn't something like this worry you or set off alarms? I hope you aren't crazy.

Whatever. If you don't sense an observer in your consciousness, then I pity you. You're nothing more than an animal. It's no wonder you're an atheist.

Seriously? Are you trolling? You really think people here, people with whom you communicate and share ideas, people who have been kind (and sometimes not so kind) to you - you really think we're animals?

You really think animals are atheists? Well, actually, they are, but I should have said "You really think atheists are animals?" instead.

You, sir, are a nut job:

If you have one voice in your head, it's yours - your conscious mind likes to subvocalize your thoughts. If you have two voices in your head, they're both yours and you're crazy. People with voices (plural) in their heads either get psychological help or end up being committed to the loony bin.

If you have one observer in your head, it's yours - your conscious mind observes the world around you and converts those observations into thoughts and memories. If you have two observers in your head, they're both yours and you're crazy. People with two (or more) distinct consciousnesses in their heads suffer from Multiple Personality Disorder and either get psychological help or end up being committed to the loony bin.

So, why does your "observer" deserve special pleading while everyone else with the same problem is crazy?

I just asked several devout Christian acquaintances if any of them have an "observer" in their heads that they identify as god. None of them do. I quoted your post. They don't share your special pleading. They think you're crazy.

Here's a fun thought experiment - go to a courtroom and tell the judge that you have an observer in your head. You think it's god. See if the judge agrees with your special pleading. Make sure he's not an atheist judge - you wouldn't want an animal to commit you to the loony bin now would you?

Dude, really, whatever else you do, get mad at me, call me names, whatever you want, but go find a qualified therapist and talk to him about this.

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