Thing is, I can appreciate this level of gore because the director and writer actually have a message they are trying to portray. Whether it is successful or not is one thing, but Human Centipede is just gore for the sake of gore, which is just crap.

All my arty friends try and pull the same trick, trying to make everything an allegory for some deep political message, but from what I've read of the movie, it just sounds like another shocking, squirmy, extremely violent horror flick.

These movies are idiotic. Some pretentious assholes think they're high art because they have some 'deep message,' but you can have a deep message without the pornographic imagery.

For a movie about porn like this, it'd probably be impossible to get any message at all across to people without being so intensely erotic.It looks mostly like a drama movie to me instead of horror.The word "pretentious" also seems to be getting thrown around a lot recently.

I don't think that is the case. I can honestly understand the message he is trying to get across as he has stated. The issue is that he made this movie for an audience very ill informed on Serbia, so it comes across as gratuitous porn. The message this guy is trying to portray really isn't possible without the porn and violence because that IS the message. Again, I don't think I could sit through it, but I get it. I'm reminded of a movie called Salo from the 60s made by Pasolini, which was similarly vulgar (for that time) and people had the same qualms about, but the images these movies include really are necessary to the message.

I don't think that is the case. I can honestly understand the message he is trying to get across as he has stated. The issue is that he made this movie for an audience very ill informed on Serbia, so it comes across as gratuitous porn. The message this guy is trying to portray really isn't possible without the porn and violence because that IS the message. Again, I don't think I could sit through it, but I get it. I'm reminded of a movie called Salo from the 60s made by Pasolini, which was similarly vulgar (for that time) and people had the same qualms about, but the images these movies include really are necessary to the message.

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