Now does one vote or does one not?

Been on the Galleries now for quite a long time and yes, I agree with all the comments about voting in general. But thinking out loud as one does sometimes; I vote for an image … any image no matter what the subject matter, if and here comes the crunch … if I like it, and if with my absolutely minimum amount of knowledge and experience within Photography, I think the image 'rocks & rolls.' For me I hasten to add.
I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel, I realise this subject has been covered in gazzillions of threads, but my basis stance on voting is as I describe above. Often I feel very guilty that I don't vote when someone votes and leaves a lovely positive comment for me. No honestly that is the truth; but it won't make me vote for them unless it meets that very basic of basic criteria … is it any flipping good John?
I appreciate that voting here on EPZ actually means diddly-squat … which, is a huge great shame, and no doubt EPZ has considered ways in which to 're-jig' it? I've looked and looked and looked but have not stumbled / fallen over any thread that gives a basic 'rule of thumb' how to continue within the galleries but not actually include voting as an option. May be that is it; seemples as that; don't permit voting?
Is it that simple?
Mozzy

Been on the Galleries now for quite a long time and yes, I agree with all the comments about voting in general. But thinking out loud as one does sometimes; I vote for an image … any image no matter what the subject matter, if and here comes the crunch … if I like it, and if with my absolutely minimum amount of knowledge and experience within Photography, I think the image 'rocks & rolls.' For me I hasten to add.

I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel, I realise this subject has been covered in gazzillions of threads, but my basis stance on voting is as I describe above. Often I feel very guilty that I don't vote when someone votes and leaves a lovely positive comment for me. No honestly that is the truth; but it won't make me vote for them unless it meets that very basic of basic criteria … is it any flipping good John?

I appreciate that voting here on EPZ actually means diddly-squat … which, is a huge great shame, and no doubt EPZ has considered ways in which to 're-jig' it? I've looked and looked and looked but have not stumbled / fallen over any thread that gives a basic 'rule of thumb' how to continue within the galleries but not actually include voting as an option. May be that is it; seemples as that; don't permit voting?

How you vote is down to you really and you appear to have answered your own question.
You should not feel guilty if someone votes for you and you don't return it.
Ken.
ps, I'd amend the spelling of the title! :)

How you vote is down to you really and you appear to have answered your own question.

You should not feel guilty if someone votes for you and you don't return it.

- Vote for any given image whatever your reasons for doing so.
- Don't vote for any images, for whatever reason.
- Comment on an image, whatever the reason.
- Refrain from commenting on any given image, for whatever reason.
- Start a forum thread - probably # 5249 on the same subject.
- Comment on said thread for whatever reason.
- Refrain from commenting on said thread for whatever reason.
ePz is in effect all things to all members.
Use it as [i]you[/i] will
I go through the galleries and vote and/or comment on the occasional image that floats my boat...an image I would be happy to have hanging on a wall in my home. At the same time, people I do not know are leaving an occasional vote or comment on one of my images.
I look at the pf's of those who leave a vote or comment, but only reciprocate if there is something there I like...again, boat floating. If I don't see anything I feel like voting or commenting on, then I don't. Mutual back-scratching is not an option for me, but it may be for others.

- Vote for any given image whatever your reasons for doing so.
- Don't vote for any images, for whatever reason.
- Comment on an image, whatever the reason.
- Refrain from commenting on any given image, for whatever reason.
- Start a forum thread - probably # 5249 on the same subject.
- Comment on said thread for whatever reason.
- Refrain from commenting on said thread for whatever reason.

ePz is in effect all things to all members.
Use it as you will

I go through the galleries and vote and/or comment on the occasional image that floats my boat...an image I would be happy to have hanging on a wall in my home. At the same time, people I do not know are leaving an occasional vote or comment on one of my images.
I look at the pf's of those who leave a vote or comment, but only reciprocate if there is something there I like...again, boat floating. If I don't see anything I feel like voting or commenting on, then I don't. Mutual back-scratching is not an option for me, but it may be for others.

I don't do very much at all here, I post a few images and grateful for any comments, votes, awards etc.
Different folks...different strokes.
Would be nice to see people actually posting images, I can't understand why a photographer would have s profile on here and not post an image...Now they're the ones you need to worry about. ;-)

I don't do very much at all here, I post a few images and grateful for any comments, votes, awards etc.

Different folks...different strokes.

Would be nice to see people actually posting images, I can't understand why a photographer would have s profile on here and not post an image...Now they're the ones you need to worry about.

The same old story I'm afraid, it's very cliquey and that will never change. I've recently had some of my images in national photo mag's, but on here I had marks of 11, 12 and 24. So, the moral of the story is, don't take any notice of the marking on here, as they tend to only vote for certain people.

The same old story I'm afraid, it's very cliquey and that will never change. I've recently had some of my images in national photo mag's, but on here I had marks of 11, 12 and 24. So, the moral of the story is, don't take any notice of the marking on here, as they tend to only vote for certain people.

I suppose there ought to be an "epz like button" for images just like the forums have for posts.
I may like an image because it is a cute photo of a kitten, but that doesn't mean it needs to be considered for an award.
Do away with the votes and user awards completely if they are so meaningless.
What to do think?

I suppose there ought to be an "epz like button" for images just like the forums have for posts.

I may like an image because it is a cute photo of a kitten, but that doesn't mean it needs to be considered for an award.

Do away with the votes and user awards completely if they are so meaningless.

[quote]If you like an image vote, if you don't, don't - simple.[/quote]
But Nick; it would seem that does not happen in the vast majority of cases. I can heed and fully accept what you say … it seems though that is not the case.
[quote]I suppose there ought to be an "epz like button" for images just like the forums have for posts.
I may like an image because it is a cute photo of a kitten, but that doesn't mean it needs to be considered for an award.
Do away with the votes and user awards completely if they are so meaningless.
What to do think?[/quote]
Not sure Doug; both seem a really worthwhile part of the Galleries. UA I like as I assume that really is based on truth and not a scratch my back thing?
I've come to the conclusion I think that votes are pretty meaningless as you say. I suppose this old chestnut will go on forever as EPZ would have changed it by now if they felt it a problem.
[quote]The same old story I'm afraid, it's very cliquey and that will never change. I've recently had some of my images in national photo mag's, but on here I had marks of 11, 12 and 24. So, the moral of the story is, don't take any notice of the marking on here, as they tend to only vote for certain people.[/quote]
That speaks absolute volumes then … for the way votes are cast, and it is a great shame. I think from my next upload, I shall as has been suggested, not include the voting box. Makes perfect sense.
Mozzy

Quote:If you like an image vote, if you don't, don't - simple.

But Nick; it would seem that does not happen in the vast majority of cases. I can heed and fully accept what you say … it seems though that is not the case.

Quote:I suppose there ought to be an "epz like button" for images just like the forums have for posts.

I may like an image because it is a cute photo of a kitten, but that doesn't mean it needs to be considered for an award.

Do away with the votes and user awards completely if they are so meaningless.

What to do think?

Not sure Doug; both seem a really worthwhile part of the Galleries. UA I like as I assume that really is based on truth and not a scratch my back thing?

I've come to the conclusion I think that votes are pretty meaningless as you say. I suppose this old chestnut will go on forever as EPZ would have changed it by now if they felt it a problem.

Quote:The same old story I'm afraid, it's very cliquey and that will never change. I've recently had some of my images in national photo mag's, but on here I had marks of 11, 12 and 24. So, the moral of the story is, don't take any notice of the marking on here, as they tend to only vote for certain people.

That speaks absolute volumes then … for the way votes are cast, and it is a great shame. I think from my next upload, I shall as has been suggested, not include the voting box. Makes perfect sense.

[quote]That speaks absolute volumes then … for the way votes are cast, and it is a great shame. I think from my next upload, I shall as has been suggested, not include the voting box. Makes perfect sense.[/quote]
But votes are not 'marks'. Being published in photo mags is perhaps a compliment, but not every photo published is necessarily great, and it's still the opinion of the picture editor or features editor, or whoever is putting the piece together. It won't necessarily be shared by hoards of ePhotozine goers.
The thing of overriding importance is always your own opinion. If that's slightly delusional it doesn't really matter except it'll potentially freeze your own progress. It's nice if a few people like a picture, and I can see how a stream of lead balloons is disconcerting, but the idea of not getting 'enough' votes is slightly ego-crazed.

Quote:That speaks absolute volumes then … for the way votes are cast, and it is a great shame. I think from my next upload, I shall as has been suggested, not include the voting box. Makes perfect sense.

But votes are not 'marks'. Being published in photo mags is perhaps a compliment, but not every photo published is necessarily great, and it's still the opinion of the picture editor or features editor, or whoever is putting the piece together. It won't necessarily be shared by hoards of ePhotozine goers.

The thing of overriding importance is always your own opinion. If that's slightly delusional it doesn't really matter except it'll potentially freeze your own progress. It's nice if a few people like a picture, and I can see how a stream of lead balloons is disconcerting, but the idea of not getting 'enough' votes is slightly ego-crazed.

[quote]I've recently had some of my images in national photo mag's, but on here I had marks of 11, 12 and 24. [/quote]
With several hundred images posted every day on ePz, yours will have to stand out from the crowd, either because of the subject matter or a certain wow factor that catches the eye,in order to be noticed by the casual viewer skimming through the galleries looking for something that appeals.

Quote:I've recently had some of my images in national photo mag's, but on here I had marks of 11, 12 and 24.

With several hundred images posted every day on ePz, yours will have to stand out from the crowd, either because of the subject matter or a certain wow factor that catches the eye,in order to be noticed by the casual viewer skimming through the galleries looking for something that appeals.