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I dont play fps'. I like high sensitivity, because it allows me faster access to every tool when i do cad work. The amount of stuff there is too much for keyboard shortcuts.

As far as the G502 goes, its 80€ here. now if someone were to give me 30€, id buy it immediately. this way, im a bit reserved to throw that much money into a mouse

You don't need a gaming mouse if you aren't playing fps . Cheaper ones aren't good as they don't have a good sensor. I use the extra buttons on my G502 for voulume control. But let me ask you a question, why do you need a gaming mouse? What games?

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You don't need a gaming mouse if you aren't playing fps . Cheaper ones aren't good as they don't have a good sensor. I use the extra buttons on my G502 for voulume control. But let me ask you a question, why do you need a gaming mouse? What games?

I play my fair share of games. Mass Effect (well not anymore, waiting on the new one), Deus Ex, SWTOR/KOTOR, Fallout 4,...

It just seems that if one wants a high quality mouse one needs to look at gaming mice, or the MX Master, which is WAAAAY out of my price range

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Ah you can just bump up in-game/windows sensitivity (smoother tracking).

yeah but i cant do that on the fly really. its nice and convenient when one can do it with a click of a button on a mouse (i dont even see how the DPI is such a problem, most mice ive seen have sensors that do waaay over 3500-4000 i use, i just mentioned it so i dont get the ones really focused on CSGO)

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I play my fair share of games. Mass Effect (well not anymore, waiting on the new one), Deus Ex, SWTOR/KOTOR, Fallout 4,...

It just seems that if one wants a high quality mouse one needs to look at gaming mice, or the MX Master, which is WAAAAY out of my price range

Like I said, don't be expecting to cash out cheap and expect to get good results. Remember that you will be using that mouse for a very long time. Maybe even a couple of years. You need to best bang for your buck. The more expensive the mouse, the better as it will produce outstanding results and long-life (unless you're going with Razer, it's overpriced asf.) The Logitech G502 maybe be almost twice as expensive as your budget, but I will tell you now - it will produce 4x better results than any other cheap mouse. Like I said before, the G502 has the best sensor, so if you're doing CAD, you need those precise movements. Click this link to show you how accurate the mouse is. Although the mouse in the video is a wireless one and a different model, it has the same sensor, thus same results.

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Just saying the lower the DPI, the more accurate the tracking will be!

Mouses with crazy DPI rates are normally made to draw people into thinking they are better for gaming.

Logitech mouses are always good for gaming (G502/ G302 )

So many things about this post is wrong

1. Lower DPI usually comes with jitter which is not desired. Lower sensitivity however makes small movements easier to pull of with great precision.

2. Logitech *mice* are not always good for gaming since not all games require the same features, many people including me find the G502 to heavy and Logitech's business line of cheap wireless mice are terrible for gaming.

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You don't need a gaming mouse if you aren't playing fps . Cheaper ones aren't good as they don't have a good sensor. I use the extra buttons on my G502 for voulume control. But let me ask you a question, why do you need a gaming mouse? What games?

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1. Lower DPI usually comes with jitter which is not desired. Lower sensitivity however makes small movements easier to pull of with great precision.

2. Logitech *mice* are not always good for gaming since not all games require the same features, many people including me find the G502 to heavy and Logitech's business line of cheap wireless mice are terrible for gaming.

You've made a misconception. Lower dpi does improve accuracy. I don't know if you've played any competitive games, but I heavily doubt so. Most CSGO pro players use 400dpi.

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1. Lower DPI usually comes with jitter which is not desired. Lower sensitivity however makes small movements easier to pull of with great precision.

2. Logitech *mice* are not always good for gaming since not all games require the same features, many people including me find the G502 to heavy and Logitech's business line of cheap wireless mice are terrible for gaming.

1. Firstly if you get a cheap 'gaming mouse' with low DPI, of course it will come with jitters (Due to the fact it's slow and noticeable with a cheap sensor)...

2. Secondly see how I had (G502/*) next to Logitech, their home range isn't made for gaming and I'm sure everyone knows that.

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i had the Kova+ from Roccat, i really enjoyed the shape, but did miss the side scrolling and a few more buttons i had on my previous logitech mouse (i dont remember the name)

also i reccomend you ignore the circlejerk and it will go away

Ill deal with them later, i can't have people running around on this forum spreading misinformation,

The Rival 300 could be a good option, good sensor and decent weight. It has a big butt but the grip width is similar to a medium size mouse (5,5 cm). Cons would be the rubber coat they used on the black model, a lot of people dislike it for feeling like a black board. The grey model uses normal hard plastic and the white model uses glossy plastic.

The Logitech G303 is an excellent mouse but the awkward shape is a big barrier to entry. Some people learn to use it and some return it back to the store and it's basically impossible to palm grip in my experience.

I noted that the Kova+ you previously used had a very low hump, i would suggest you take a look into the Avior 7000 by Mionix since that uses a very low hump too. Just note it has buttons on both sides and a lot of people have said they are in the way (most of them seem to have big hands) while some say they are not (most of them seem to have smaller hands).

Cougar have also launched a few interesting mice in various price points. The top model 550m (similar shape to deathadder), the step down 450m (fairly low hump but is also a smaller mouse). I would mostly look at the 550m but it may be outside your price range.

And how are zowie prices in your country? They offer some great mice in various sizes and shapes. FK1 to FK2 (same shape with very low hump but mostly recommended for fingertip grip) and EC1-A to EC2-A (deathadder style shape which is loved by many but hump is fairly big) and lastly the ZA11 to ZA13 which is very similar to FK series but very big hump which is more to the back (should suit palm grip).

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G302, good mouse but i would suggest you see if you can find the g303 as it's a straight upgrade with a better sensor and mouse feet on the sides so it doesn't wobble as easily.

Came here to say this. The G303 is a worthy update to the G302, and it does more under the hood rather than RGB lighting. I've own the G303 for about three months and I can recommend it, though this is coming from a guy that plays FPSs primarily.

@LukaP Now, for RPGs and MOBAs, as much as I'd like to recommend a G600/Naga (reg or Hex) for the programmable buttons (obviously), but I don't know if that's out of your budget. I'd look it up for you, though I don't know where you're located.