Today in the BCS after the title game we tend to go in this rotational order where traditional conference winners that don't make the BCS are placed into their game, and we start some round-robin process (which alterlates) in placing the rest of the games. Behind the scenes deals are cut, matchups made based on fan-bases, and the last bcs bowl is usually stuck with someone like Boise. Is the plus one a one-game winner-take-all? Or does it mean each of the 4 bcs bowl winners in a 4-man tourney? The reason is I ask is because if it's a plus-1 only you'd think that matching up BCS 1-4 in one bowl and BCS 2-3 in the other would have to happen.

How I'd do it would be going by conference champions first off. Can't win your conference? tough. Now. A possible at-large provision could be made for a team like 'Bama if a team that wins it's conference is outside of the top 10/5 when the final rankings are released, but for the sake of valuing the regular season, you place a lot of stock in that.

So, in this regards:

LSU would have clinched the number 1 seed.Oklahoma St. the number 2 thanks to winning the French XIIOregon the number 3 seed.And the 4th seed either being Wisconsin or Alabama depending on whether or not we're going top 5 or ten.

in 06 for the imfamous choke job done by tosu?

Ohio State the Number 1 seedFlorida the Number 2 seedLoisville the Number 3 seedOklahoma or Michigan as the 4 seed.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

You can dream up hopeful scenarios about conference champs and the like, but they will present this like it is an addition to a very good system. Anything else admits this system blows and opens door they have no plans to open.

You can dream up hopeful scenarios about conference champs and the like, but they will present this like it is an addition to a very good system. Anything else admits this system blows and opens door they have no plans to open.

These guys who make the BCS decisions are morons.

"Does anyone have any creative ideas as to how to get more people interested in the BCS national championship game and legitimize this extension of a MNC in the face of increasing criticism and declining ratings?"

"I propose we do exactly the same thing. Except we'll add one more game."

"Brilliant! All in favor say Aye".

"AYE!"

"Opposed?"

Silence.

"Motion carries unanimously".

Complete idiots. 6 year olds now fill out brackets in March and look what CBS & the NCAA have done to that thing since about what, 1992? Money has exploded exponentially. And yet the BCS is the only championship outside of the auspices of the NCAA because of the boosters/trustees in the conference schools overriding the presidents.

I honestly never got the argument that adding a playoff suddenly makes CFB into the NFl, and the regular season meaningless. Kirk Herbstrait always drags this out as the great end-all to CFB having a playoff.

I hope to god this isn't a bad analogy, but I keep thinking about High School Football, and especially in Stark County. You need every win for points, and sometimes you have to pray to god someone gets knocked off in the final week.

If you try your best to have it match the HS football set up (paging Joe Eitel), without over doing it and making the regular season still mean something, it sure as hell can be done.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

But that round of 8? That is 4 bowl games being replaced. You think tOSU fans are traveling to see that round? And then the Football 4 round? Nobody is traveling to that, because they are anticipating the Finals. So 2 more bowl games that lose $.

So you are losing 6 bowl games worth of money to some stadium and sponsors. To jam pack a stadium for a game that is already jam packed.

Playoff discussions make me tired. The should just have playoffs with homefield advantage, tOSU fans would fill the shoe to see the round of 8. 'Bama fans would fill DB Stadium to see 'Bama in any round.

It would be cool to see a team like 'Bama or LSU have to come to Columbus or Lincoln in January!

Whatever, that makes too much sense and cuts out the bowls, so it won't happen.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

Either he's a humoungous dipshit, or he's to the point where he honestly believes everything he says. Deadspin will likely have it up within 24 hours. But some of the classic lines were as follows:

-He called Notre Dame a relevant football team. (This is not 1993)

-He said that if there was a playoff, the debate for who would be the unlucky team out would shift from 2/3, to 4/5 or 8/9 and thus it's not even worth it.

-He claimed that some of the 'Bama coaches claimed, that due to the injuries to players during the game the week before that they would not have been up to full speed for a game after. Thus he claimed the championship would not truly be on the field, but in the training room

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

But that round of 8? That is 4 bowl games being replaced. You think tOSU fans are traveling to see that round? And then the Football 4 round? Nobody is traveling to that, because they are anticipating the Finals. So 2 more bowl games that lose $.

So you are losing 6 bowl games worth of money to some stadium and sponsors. To jam pack a stadium for a game that is already jam packed.

Either he's a humoungous dipshit, or he's to the point where he honestly believes everything he says. Deadspin will likely have it up within 24 hours. But some of the classic lines were as follows:

-He called Notre Dame a relevant football team. (This is not 1993)

-He said that if there was a playoff, the debate for who would be the unlucky team out would shift from 2/3, to 4/5 or 8/9 and thus it's not even worth it.

-He claimed that some of the 'Bama coaches claimed, that due to the injuries to players during the game the week before that they would not have been up to full speed for a game after. Thus he claimed the championship would not truly be on the field, but in the training room

Purdue in 2009 had to resort to playing a f--king Wide receiver at running back. I don't see High School teams complaining about such a problem, nor do I see the lower divisions complaining.

Here's the problem. You don't have FOOTBALL PEOPLE running things, you don't even have the AD's in the running. You got guys in suits who are in it for the cash. GORDON GEE, BILL HANCOCK, ETC SHOULD HAVE NEXT TO ZERO SAY ON THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL. NONE.

and the 4/5 arugment? please. "Hey the 2007 Browns were one game away from making the playoffs and a bid at the Super Bowl (unlikely), they didn't make it, thus we shouldn't have the NFL playoffs".

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

But that round of 8? That is 4 bowl games being replaced. You think tOSU fans are traveling to see that round? And then the Football 4 round? Nobody is traveling to that, because they are anticipating the Finals. So 2 more bowl games that lose $.

So you are losing 6 bowl games worth of money to some stadium and sponsors. To jam pack a stadium for a game that is already jam packed.

So play them at the home seed stadium and the joint sells out.

Duh.

Sure. They are going to put a system in place that requires anyone from the South/West to travel to play a playoff game in Columbus/Ann Arbor/Madison. Keep waiting for that to happen.

But that round of 8? That is 4 bowl games being replaced. You think tOSU fans are traveling to see that round? And then the Football 4 round? Nobody is traveling to that, because they are anticipating the Finals. So 2 more bowl games that lose $.

So you are losing 6 bowl games worth of money to some stadium and sponsors. To jam pack a stadium for a game that is already jam packed.

So play them at the home seed stadium and the joint sells out.

Duh.

Sure. They are going to put a system in place that requires anyone from the South/West to travel to play a playoff game in Columbus/Ann Arbor/Madison. Keep waiting for that to happen.

If it's all about the money (and it always is) I'm not sure I understand why they wouldn't.

But that round of 8? That is 4 bowl games being replaced. You think tOSU fans are traveling to see that round? And then the Football 4 round? Nobody is traveling to that, because they are anticipating the Finals. So 2 more bowl games that lose $.

So you are losing 6 bowl games worth of money to some stadium and sponsors. To jam pack a stadium for a game that is already jam packed.

So play them at the home seed stadium and the joint sells out.

Duh.

Sure. They are going to put a system in place that requires anyone from the South/West to travel to play a playoff game in Columbus/Ann Arbor/Madison. Keep waiting for that to happen.

If it's all about the money (and it always is) I'm not sure I understand why they wouldn't.

But that round of 8? That is 4 bowl games being replaced. You think tOSU fans are traveling to see that round? And then the Football 4 round? Nobody is traveling to that, because they are anticipating the Finals. So 2 more bowl games that lose $.

So you are losing 6 bowl games worth of money to some stadium and sponsors. To jam pack a stadium for a game that is already jam packed.

So play them at the home seed stadium and the joint sells out.

Duh.

Sure. They are going to put a system in place that requires anyone from the South/West to travel to play a playoff game in Columbus/Ann Arbor/Madison. Keep waiting for that to happen.

If it's all about the money (and it always is) I'm not sure I understand why they wouldn't.

Exactly. If the dollars are there they will follow.

Because they don't have to. They believe the system as it exists today makes more money through bowl games than it would without.

A playoff is either costing them money (boosters not traveling multiple times) or forcing them to do something they have absolutely no interest in doing (making their sugar babies travel to shitty climates) to make up for the boosters not traveling multiple times. And sure, the game will sell out in C-Bus. But not with the boosters that live anywhere else but C-Bus. Those are the people they want at these games, but a bunch of toms, dicks or harrys. And even the local crew, after the first few years of how cool a playoff is will stop attending first round games choosing to spend their cabbage by going to Phoenix for the semis. Or Pasadena for the Title.

You put the first round of games at home sites. What happens to the Sugar Bowl? Fiesta? Rose? Orange? Somebody is losing a game. A bowl committee is losing a game and a lot of money. That is not going to happen.

We are not talking about wear and tear on the body. I'm not buying that. If I had all the NCAA commissioners in the room with truth serum I doubt this has anything to do with kids going to class?"I don't think you heard what I said before. We think about the effect of this on the student athlete. It affects the student athletes in many ways. One is whole other series of football games. Another is conflicts with final exams. There's no conflict with basketball and final exams, but there would be with a big December tournament."

I had a rant here, but I got rid of it. needless to say. I'm tired of this. Just say it's about the money and get on with it.

Don't toss out these stupid little arguments.

You want to show how you "care" about the student-athelete? get rid of this system and get rid of the ncaa itself.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

The money actually does disappear because the bowls are about travel money too. It is about bringing some cash into the cities and the other BS that goes with the bowls. There are guys that make a NICE living running bowls, and not just the BCS variety. Bowl games are an industry in and of themselves.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

The money actually does disappear because the bowls are about travel money too. It is about bringing some cash into the cities and the other BS that goes with the bowls. There are guys that make a NICE living running bowls, and not just the BCS variety. Bowl games are an industry in and of themselves.

The money would not disappear, because that game would get played in another setting.

How would the money disappear if the game does not? You are replacing a game here with a game there. I dont think we are talking about the same things.

The money actually does disappear because the bowls are about travel money too. It is about bringing some cash into the cities and the other BS that goes with the bowls. There are guys that make a NICE living running bowls, and not just the BCS variety. Bowl games are an industry in and of themselves.

The money would not disappear, because that game would get played in another setting.

How would the money disappear if the game does not? You are replacing a game here with a game there. I dont think we are talking about the same things.

The money disappears because when you move the games to home team locations, you get home crowds, therefore all the travel/tourism money goes away. You don't get the same hotel, airline and dining bump etc.

Bowls are much more than just the gate/concessions and game related revenues.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

The money actually does disappear because the bowls are about travel money too. It is about bringing some cash into the cities and the other BS that goes with the bowls. There are guys that make a NICE living running bowls, and not just the BCS variety. Bowl games are an industry in and of themselves.

The money would not disappear, because that game would get played in another setting.

How would the money disappear if the game does not? You are replacing a game here with a game there. I dont think we are talking about the same things.

Gotta believe TV revenues would jump, but how do you split that up and if you do, who benefits from it. Do you switch to a format where TV revenues are split over 117 teams? That seems a bit convoluted. Who gets the gate from home playoff games?

I really don't care, I would rather see a playoff, but these are hard questions to answer. Do you split Gate revenue between the two teams? If you do then you could give a team 3 additional home games. At tOSU that equates to about 20-30MM more revenue (split in half yields 10-15MM). Do you split that somehow with the leagues?

Again, I have no dog in the fight. I don't get paid by a bowl committee, I would love to see a playoff, but I also realize that there is a lot more at stake than just gate revenue.The money disappears because when you move the games to home team locations, you get home crowds, therefore all the travel/tourism money goes away. You don't get the same hotel, airline and dining bump etc.

Bowls are much more than just the gate/concessions and game related revenues.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.