Krazy Kops in Kanada

You see a lot more of this south of the 49th but it's certainly not exclusive to the US.

This guy gets pulled over, hand-cuffed, and then punched in the face.

His crime?

... he ran a red light... on his bicycle

You can see his bewilderment as they cuff him. It looks like he's about to start laughing actually right before he gets punched. It looks like he was
about to make a "why? what for?" motion with his hand and then *smack

Pulling over a guy on his bicycle for running a red light? It seems as ridiculous to me now as it surely would have back then.

In the last 20 years the police have become exponentially more aggressive. Sure you could argue that society has as well. They still have to follow
the LAW though, and as is mentioned by his friend recording the incident, it's not lawful to assault someone just because they are questioning your
right to detain them.

Who are these guys anyway?

The Indo cop is clearly British, and both of them are in plain clothes. They have undercover cops now to arrest traffic violators??

By arguing with the police officer and turning his head, the man does clearly move his arm while being cuffed.
That being said, I don't think that he was resisting arrest, it was just natural body movement. The officer could have missinterpreted the move
though.....Still not a good reason to punch someone in the face, they do have other ways to subdue a "suspect" !!!

Hey...When I was 17...I got "arrested" for BARKING at cops while they were driving by....Was put in the back of the squad car and that's
when....none other than....Pat Burns took a telephopne book out of the trunk of the cop car, placed it over my face and SMACK,....Punched the phone
book hard enough to make me realize that I was just a snot noze little puke....LOL...I never pissed off a cop after that !!! lmao !! May god keep
Coach Burns safe in his arms....

BC I don't know but you do have a right to fight back in Onatrio. But is it wise? I don't think it is.
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The case bellow, within itself is irrelevant. I might of booked him anyway if I were the judge but he followed the law and this dude won his case.

The judge concluded Alexander had a legal right to resist the unlawful arrest and there was a reasonable doubt as to whether Alexander intended to
assault the officer as opposed to merely intending to escape.

I don't know about BC. But you're allowed in Ontario.

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I HATE!! using Wiki but I'm pressed for time here.

Resisting unlawful arrest In many cases, individuals will realize that they are the target of false arrest and attempt to resist or flee. This is
known as resisting unlawful arrest, and is a justification for such resistance where it would otherwise be a crime (i.e. resisting arrest, flight to
avoid prosecution, assault, or even murder).

Justification for such action is often hard to prove in court, and only justified in certain circumstances. Simple mistake of fact situations would
generally not warrant attempting to elude law enforcement. However, there are some that would, such as:
--the person making the arrest never identifying themselves, causing the defendant to believe they are the target of kidnapping or robbery.
-- the reasonable belief that the person making the arrest is an impersonator with the intent of victimizing the defendant.
--the reasonable belief that the defendant would be the victim of police brutality if taken into custody by that individual.

Many courts generally will not condone violence used in resisting an unlawful arrest, or "deadly force," unless it's proven the police began to use
violence upon the defendant.

The last line is the key phrase here "unless it's proven the police began to use violence upon the defendant."

Originally posted by Nuke2013
Hey...When I was 17...I got "arrested" for BARKING at cops while they were driving by....Was put in the back of the squad car and that's
when....none other than....Pat Burns took a telephopne book out of the trunk of the cop car, placed it over my face and SMACK,....Punched the phone
book hard enough to make me realize that I was just a snot noze little puke....LOL...I never pissed off a cop after that !!! lmao !! May god keep
Coach Burns safe in his arms....

Well to the officers defense. The so called victim did jab the officer with his elbow first while being handcuffed and the reaction from the officer
was a punch. Neither are right, but maybe the guy shouldn't of jabbed him with his elbow.

BC I don't know but you do have a right to fight back in Onatrio. But is it wise? I don't think it is.
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The case bellow, within itself is irrelevant. I might of booked him anyway if I were the judge but he followed the law and this dude won his case.

The judge concluded Alexander had a legal right to resist the unlawful arrest and there was a reasonable doubt as to whether Alexander intended to
assault the officer as opposed to merely intending to escape.

I don't know about BC. But you're allowed in Ontario.

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I HATE!! using Wiki but I'm pressed for time here.

Resisting unlawful arrest In many cases, individuals will realize that they are the target of false arrest and attempt to resist or flee. This is
known as resisting unlawful arrest, and is a justification for such resistance where it would otherwise be a crime (i.e. resisting arrest, flight to
avoid prosecution, assault, or even murder).

Justification for such action is often hard to prove in court, and only justified in certain circumstances. Simple mistake of fact situations would
generally not warrant attempting to elude law enforcement. However, there are some that would, such as:
--the person making the arrest never identifying themselves, causing the defendant to believe they are the target of kidnapping or robbery.
-- the reasonable belief that the person making the arrest is an impersonator with the intent of victimizing the defendant.
--the reasonable belief that the defendant would be the victim of police brutality if taken into custody by that individual.

Many courts generally will not condone violence used in resisting an unlawful arrest, or "deadly force," unless it's proven the police began to use
violence upon the defendant.

The last line is the key phrase here "unless it's proven the police began to use violence upon the defendant."

edit on 28-3-2013 by XLR8R
because: (no reason given)

Thanks for that.

There are two things to keep in mind with regards to this example though.

1. that guy was in a car
2. he was a crack junkie

You don't require a license to ride a bike so the rules are a bit different.

Also, regardless of travelling in a car or by bike, running a red light is not a crime unless it causes damage or injury.

Where is the victim here? The only victim I see is the guy who got punched. Since there is no other injured or otherwise transgressed 3rd party, that
by default makes the cop, THE PERPETRATOR.

Originally posted by Manhater
Well to the officers defense. The so called victim did jab the officer with his elbow first while being handcuffed and the reaction from the officer
was a punch. Neither are right, but maybe the guy shouldn't of jabbed him with his elbow.

edit on 28-3-2013 by Manhater because: (no reason given)

Sure, these days it's always better to shut your mouth and comply without complaint.

The point is, they had no legal grounds to arrest/detain/cuff him in the first place.

As I alluded to, there was no injured 3rd party here. Where's the crime?

I can't even say if he legally could have been written a ticket, as he was on a bike and you don't require a license to ride a bike (hence those
acts and statutes should not apply?)

It seems the only right these cops had, was to maybe pull up beside him and warn him it's not the best idea to run through a stop light...... instead
they cuff him and assault him.

I agree, fighting back is not a very smart thing to do if you value your life.

My statement was more of a "wouldn't it be nice if we had a way to punish these #ers" statement...my apologies for not being more clear.

What makes your post even more interesting is that I am in Ontario at the moment (I left BC a few years ago) and the police here are just as brutal. I
get stopped by them quite often for no reason whatsoever, they always say I match the description of someone they are looking for. I always politely
let them know that I don't appreciate being harassed and ask if I am under arrest or being detained. Once thy say no I just leave.

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