Video: Fort Lauderdale shooter fires first shots

Notice how calm and determined he is. Almost as if he considers himself to be on some kind of mission. Perhaps Aashiq Hammad was mindful of this promise — particularly if he really had mental health issues: “Fight them; Allah will punish them by your hands and will disgrace them and give you victory over them and satisfy the breasts of a believing people, and remove the fury in the believers’ hearts.” (Qur’an 9:14-15) Jihad as therapy.

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….meaning. Moderate Moslems – As they smile at Westerners, with plans to stab us in the back. TAQIYYA. They, muslims believe the same way Esteban Santiago acted. If they didn’t we’d hear protests from muslims. Right Muslims?!

Mental health crickets!! Now tell me how someone who is so deranged is packing only a weapon, ammo, and flies five hours, to a know busy airport, mostly with older people who are catching a cruse ship, to open fire and shoot at least 11 people!!??
I think that would take some presence of mind……….. and of course being a Muslim!!

It’s totally inconceivable that politicians are not aware of the nature of Islam. They’d have to have zero knowledge of world history to be unaware that Islam is predicated on conquest. No, for some reason, probably pertaining to oil and/or oil riches, they’re submitting us all to the joys of Islam. You can bet your life that if the US found oil comparable to that of the Saudis tomorrow, the islamisation would end in a flash.

Yes …enough of this political correctness mess……tIme to crack down on all illegals…tIme to crack down on all muslims..Pass laws to profile…If it looks like a duck…quacks like a duck… walks like a duck…then it’s a duck…TIme for roast duck!….Any and everything should be on the table when it comes to our safety and security.. I have nothing to hide when it comes to American security…profile me…search me… question me ….investigste any and everything even monitoring Mosques….Muslim organizstions…Individuals..Especially if there have been red flags on individuals …..I’m not condoning a complete Police State
but something MUST be done…something has to give in order to retain some of our needed security…We may have to give up, for a time any way, some of our fcomfortable freedoms..Clean up America..Then maybe we can get back to some system of normalcy.

Im not sure its the same situation as mortimer claims, but surely an history lesson is acceptable? I mean, not when you are in a fight, but statistically 0% of us are in a fight while posting on here.

it is true though. He could have killed anywhere, like Omar at that gay club, but Islamists have done extreme damage to western transportation routes, as is obvious whenever one takes an air-plane somewhere.

The preponderance of evidence suggests the shooter was jihadi, but it’s a long way up the mountain to extrapolate from what we do know to arrive at the fantasy that Santiago was “sabotaging” Western transportation. It’s laughable on its face. Add to that the fact that the Barbary pirates didn’t do what he said they did and it’s easy to offer terse comments and give a brief rejoinder of historical truth to the dumbassedness that Morty wrote and writes so often.

Undaunted, I have the greatest respect for you and your contributions here.

There were a lot of factors that led to the Dark Ages, including barbarian invasions and the decline of the Roman Empire–but Muslim conquest of North Africa and the Levant and subsequent piracy which virtually closed the Mediterranean to trade for centuries–did indeed contribute to the Dark Ages.

Europe’s focus shifted north and inland during this period–eventually this would lead to modern Europe a thousand years later, but it was initially devastating, as much of the remainders of Roman civilization were effectively destroyed.

Islamic conquest and piracy may not have caused the Dark Ages, but it certainly virtually stopped any quick recovery.

A fine book on the subject is “Mohammed and Charlemagne” by Belgian historian Henri Pirenne:

While this is largely a review of a more recent and much lesser book, it touches on Pirenne’s original:

“The influential Belgian historian Henri Pirenne (1862-1935) asserted that the definitive break between the Classical world and the Middle Ages in the West was not the downfall of the Western Roman Empire following the partition in the year 395, but the Islamic conquests in the seventh century. While civilization in Europe had previously always been centered on the Mediterranean, the center of power was now established north of the Alps for this first time…

From the mid-700s on, navigation between the Italian Peninsula and what remained of the once-proud Byzantine Empire almost ceased due to Muslim piracy. There was no longer any major traffic in what the Romans had called Mare Nostrum (Our Sea), except for the Adriatic and the northeastern corner of the Mediterranean that was still largely controlled by the Byzantine fleet. As Ibn Khaldun proudly proclaimed, “the Christians could no longer float a plank upon the sea.”…

Muslims did not create the European weakness of the post-Roman era, but they certainly exploited it for a long time. Gradually, new political, military and cultural institutions emerged in the West out of the ashes of the Roman world, a new version of European civilization…”

Mortimer does overstate things here–but he does make an important historical point.

This is entirely separate from his suggestions on how we address Jihad aggression here and now.

Thanks, GI. Your response is received: Barbary Pirates didn’t create the weakness in Europe but they exploited it for quite a while.

Morty didn’t say “… Muslim conquest […] did indeed contribute to the Dark Ages”, nor did he say “… Islamic conquest and piracy may not have caused the Dark Ages…”. But he did say “… causing the Dark Ages through sabotaging transport…” assigning direct causation to the Barbary Pirates in particular. But that merry band didn’t begin to be seen until the 9th century, some say the 11th. The fall of Rome, which was probably the largest factor in Muslim advance, occurred in 410. Muhammad wasn’t born until 570, if he was born at all.

I didn’t say the Barbary Pirates didn’t play a role in the Dark Ages, just that they didn’t bring them to pass, which was Morty’s clear assertion. My use of the term “minor, itsy-bitsy impact” may be off an atrocity or two but there is no historical evidence to support Morty’s claim as he wrote it here.

Undaunted – Unlike gravenimage I do not have the greatest respect for your contributions. I tend to skip over your chest beating and shoot ’em up bluster, and I am unimpressed by the use of the surly phrase “shut the fuck up” as a debating tactic.

In your response to Mortimer you merely showed your ignorance, being unable to distinguish between the Barbary pirates at the end of the 18th century and the Muslim pirates of 1000 years earlier who apparently had a hand in exacerbating, if not causing, the Dark Ages, that Mortimer was referring to.

Read this from Emmet Scott:

“Islamic piracy and predation brought sea trade in the Mediterranean to a virtual standstill. This was not only devastating to the economies of Europe, but it also halted the export of papyrus from Egypt to the rest of the region. The use of papyrus for written material was the major engine of widespread literacy in the Mediterranean. After the supply dried up, parchment proved to be scarce, expensive, and inadequate as a replacement.

Thanks to Islam, the Mediterranean basin was transformed from a peaceful, literate, civilized culture into a violent, illiterate, and backward one — all in the space of a generation or so.”

Ahh, I see. Barbary pirates did not, but their ancestors appeared almost as quick as Islam, and I will point out they raped the coastline of Italy and other European powers very early on.

Mortimer appears to be wrong if he means they caused it, but the other commenters are right-they had a big but not main hand in the dark ages, thus I would argue even in his fault he reveals something.

And ECAW, I think chest-beating is a very good term for him, even if he is correct, particularly in calling for action, though killing every muslim will just make the authorities crack down. (Maybe) However, I don’t think he needs to constantly scream thoughen up.

I wonder what would have happened if Islam did not take over so much of Christendom, and then pawn off the roman inventions as its own, and take credit for “finding” old texts.

Would we find that the Islamic golden age was pathetic in comparison to what might have been? My namesake, Byzantium, might have spearheaded that.

ECAW, thanks for your reply. I’m no expert in history as ancient as what’s on the table here, so you’re one up on me. Congratulations. My point remains: Mortimer said the Barbary Pirates CAUSED the Dark Ages, an assertion that is demonstrably false, as is your defense of his statement, no matter from where or whom you cut/pasted it.

My expertise is in other matters, sometimes shared here. If you choose to avoid my comments because I cuss now and then, so be it. I couldn’t care less. That suggests to me that if someone gave you a directive in a combat situation and added “… and hurry the fuck up…” you’d just sit there or take your sweet time because you didn’t like the language.

And what of your “expertise” in ancient history, and that of Morty? What of it? I know what Victor Davis Hanson says about why the study of war is important but that’s a broad application. What does your good memory – and that’s all it is – as far as the olden times bring to this fight now? Same question was posed twice by me to Morty several days ago, with no reply. That’s all I get from you book-dorks: “I read this dusty book and it says this and that, yadda yadda yadda.” But when it comes time to contribute to the actual battle we’re in all over the world – and soon to increase in intensity and frequency in the US – I see you and your type have no answers, just proclamations as to once-upon-a-time stuff that doesn’t matter now, really. So, yeah; I couldn’t care less that you think my tactical suggestions are mere “chest-beating”. It tells me a lot about what kind of man you are, actually.

The US government was kind enough to give me years and years of good training and experience that pertains exactly to the fight we’re in now and I choose to share some of that with you free of charge because of my concern for humankind. That’s it. It’s that simple. If I have use some shitty language now and then to get through the bullshit you and others post here, then I will.

Yeah; chest-beating and shoot-’em-up-bluster… that’s all it is.

Oh; since I’m sure you’re looking for this part: I was wrong in some of the detail I posted here as to the exact time-line along which the Barbary Pirates existed. I was wrong.

History that matters; a quiz for ECAW and Morty and anyone else who wants to play.

– What event changed police tactics in ASR?
– What armed attack method is most often used by terrorists?
– What is the best defense against that method?
– What elements are most important in this best defense?
– What does V + O = T mean?
– Of all the incidents at which IC/UC have been used in the last, let’s say 5 years; what is the most common negative finding in the AARs following those incidents?
– What was the most significant occurrence on Day Three at Beslan?
– If you knew you were going to be caught in a building with an AS, would you want cops responding in typical ASR or MACTAC?
– What are the pros and cons of typical ASR and MACTAC?
– Who “invented” MACTAC and when?
– Were the Westwood Mall / Mumbai attacks what one would call a siege?
– What were the most common errors committed by responding police at Binghamton, Orlando, and San Bernardino?

Undaunted, I admit to being something of a “book dork” myself–a 5’1″ middle-aged female artist and historian. My main area of contribution is probably *not* going to be physically kicking ass–that doesn’t mean I don’t very much respect that ability, though.

Robert Spencer himself is not a warrior–but he is a brave Anti-Jihadist, and has a great deal to contribute–more than many of us. I think the Counter Jihad needs to be fought on multiple fronts, and that many of us have a lot to contribute to the effort.

Let me take a stab at your quiz–which admittedly is not my area of expertise:

– What event changed police tactics in ASR?
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I know ASR is “Active Shooter Response”–I believe what changed tactics was Columbine, and that police now try to enter a situation earlier than previously to save lives, rather than waiting for SWAT Teams to show up.

More:

– What armed attack method is most often used by terrorists?
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I’m not sure–usually an individual or small group focusing on unarmed people, as at Orlando, San Bernardino, the Bataclan, Beslan, the Westgate Mall in Kenya, the Ft. Lauderdale airport and other “soft” targets, I would assume.

More:

– What is the best defense against that method?
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Being armed oneself, I would imagine.

More:

– What elements are most important in this best defense?
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I don’t know.

More:

– What does V + O = T mean?
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I don’t know.

More:

– Of all the incidents at which IC/UC have been used in the last, let’s say 5 years; what is the most common negative finding in the AARs following those incidents?
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I know that AARs are “After Action Reviews”, by which military and police review the actions taken in an engagement, and what went right and what went wrong.

I don’t know what the most common negative findings are.

More:

– What was the most significant occurrence on Day Three at Beslan?
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I know this was when Russian politicians affirmed they were willing to negotiate with the Jihadists–the assault on the school began right after this agreement was made. I have never had a clear sense as to whether these negotiations would have worked at all, or if the Jihadists used this as an excuse to begin killing in earnest. Certainly, it seems the response assault was not well-organized or well thought out.

More:

– If you knew you were going to be caught in a building with an AS, would you want cops responding in typical ASR or MACTAC?
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I know MACTAC is “Multi-Assault Counter-Terrorism Action Capabilities”. I know this latter takes into account possible follow-up or multiple attacks, as at Mumbai and Paris–so don’t throw all of your resources at a first attack. From what little I know, the latter approach seems more sophisticated.

More:

– What are the pros and cons of typical ASR and MACTAC?
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If it really is a single attack, traditional ASR might be better–but you cannot know if this is the case until after the fact–if this is just a first or even decoy attack, then the latter.

More:

– Who “invented” MACTAC and when?
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I’m not sure; I know it was developed quite recently, though, and that civilian police departments are being trained in this technique now.

More:

– Were the Westwood Mall / Mumbai attacks what one would call a siege?
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I believe you mean the Westgate Mall in Kenya. I believe that was considered a siege, as Jihadists holed up in the mall with their victims, making it more difficult for law enforcement and military to safely respond.

Mumbai was a mixed bag–the hotel and Jewish center were sieges, whereas the attack on the train station, I believe, was more of an assault where the assailants left right after the attack.

More:

– What were the most common errors committed by responding police at Binghamton, Orlando, and San Bernardino?
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I don’t know about Binghamton, but I believe at both Orlando and San Bernardino it was that responders spent a lot of time setting up a perimeter and waiting for the Swat Teams to show up–I believe this is part of what MACTAC training for ordinary police departments is meant to address.

I know I have some real gaps in my knowledge here–if you decide to come back and answer your own questions, I’m sure we would benefit from it.

Undaunted – Who could have guessed that you would respond to my charge of bluster with….more bluster? The majority of your two posts is irrelevant to my interests here so I will skip over it and just make 3 points.

1. It was the “shut up” that I objected to more than the “fuck”. In fact I don’t give a fuck about the fuck. You can fucking well shout “fuck” all day long as far as I fucking care. But I don’t like attempts to close down debate whether it comes from Muslims whining about Islamophobia, SJWs’ name calling or your snarling insults.

2. Having discovered you were in error, shouldn’t you be calling yourself a fuckin’ moron and telling yourself to shut the fuck up? Ah no, that only applies to Mortimer. When it comes to you being wrong historical fact is just for dorks and dusty books.

If you regard discussion of the historical and theological realities of Islam with such contempt what are you doing here? Robert Spencer deals in suras not hollow points yet I daresay he is having more effect in shifting public awareness in the right direction than anyone else in the field.

3. I do have a plan as it happens. It involves learning as much as I can about the pernicious reality of Islam so I can argue against it in writing or speaking, in hopes of changing minds. I admit it isn’t going too well at the moment. My attempts at writing only reach the already converted as far as I can make out, and everyone I speak to about Islam seems to be wrapped in an anti-reality blanket. Nevertheless I will persist. Even if I only change one mind, and I never know about it, it will have been worth the effort.

As far as guns go, I did once learn how to operate one and I don’t imagine I’ve forgotten how (Lee Enfield .303 since you ask). It is a concern to me that I live in a country with strict gun laws and am considering my options for when the balloon goes up. Fortunately for me, but not for them, I think the French will experience bloody civil strife first and hopefully we can learn from their experience.

Debate? You mean the one I’m not having with Mortimer, which you referenced above? No, I’m not a fucking moron, thank you so much. As I said, being no expert on the Barbary Pirates, I did a quick search and came up with some information that, according to you, was wrong. So, rather than piss and moan, I just copped to it and that was that, as far as I’m concerned.

Of course that is why we had our first navy. It is of course never mentioned anywhere to keep good relations with muslims and not to offend them.

I am tired of explaining Islam to people who want to close their eyes to this evil. It is time for action now. That is why we have to support Trump. I believe this is our last chance to fight off Evil Islam.

Winston Churchill knew…so what happened in Europe? Now, if you quote his knowledge, you many get arrested. Sharia law forbid, knowledge, requires protection of the verses that call for death to infidels. So peaceful that few are afraid to speak the truth, for fear of a disruption or terror of a “peaceful believer”.
Barbary Pirates or Somali Pirates off the coast of the Somali shores…hmmmm….. exerting terror to the cargo ships passing….and then migrating to the spread sharia that is part of the “peaceful religion” that few really know….protected by like minded leader who want to fundamentally change America to the muslim country that Obama says we are one of the largest and he wants to protect,

And this, boys and girls, is why I carry a Browning Hi-Power 9mm with multiple high-capacity magazines fully loaded with +P hollow-points – about 150 rounds total – wherever I go, INCLUDING the outer, unsecured parts of “protected” international airports.

I am NOT trying to be insensitive to the senseless loss of five lives or those wounded/traumatized in the attack, but an airport terminal sure is a stupid place to wage jihad. Santiago wasn’t well-armed for a mass-scale massacre. Baggage claim may very well be the most unsecured area of an airport, but his victims were likely on the same flight. They shared the same baggage claim area.

MY THEORY AT THE MOMENT…there’s been scattered reports that Santiago “argued” with at least one passenger on the flight from Minneapolis to Fort Lauderdale. He may very well have “snapped” if an altercation actually transpired, aware always he would have access to his firearm upon landing and retrieval.

I’m just trying to think out loud here, folks. If Santiago wanted to target Jews, he needed only to hop to Canada or Oregon and strike a synagogue, Jewish nursing home…whatever. SO many of my (non-Jewish) friends head to the Fort Lauderdale area this time of year to escape the wrath of the New England weather.

I gave this theory some serious thought. I didn’t pull it out of my ass…

If your *theory* was correct, he would have had to know that he would meet someone on a plane to Florida who would argue with him or upset him or offend him to that degree that he went to the airport four hours before the flight with only his gun and ammo in a bag and bought a one-way ticket…all ahead of getting on the plane and being in an altercation and getting upset to the point he just had to kill someone.

He had, evidently, three clips. He had only the gun in the bag…no clothes, no return ticket…no one meeting him…Why would he go if not to kill when he arrived?

Yes, it looks pre-meditated to me – as Robert says, he’s very calm and collected. Of course, psychotropic drugs might have that affect. And all the lslamic connections – The arafat scarf [wouldn’t be surprised if Hamas is involved], the one-finger salute [which CNN cropped], the muslim name he used on MySpace, the downloading of Jihad material. lt all leads to the obvious conclusion IMO. And then he uses ‘Distraction’ like accusing the US GOV of mind-controlling him and making him do it – all a little too convenient, l think.

He may have shot randomly, but he was on a mission…and I believe it may have been about about having a weapon and legally carrying it thru a airport, as a type of humiliation to someone who may have allowed this carry. They always have a message and try to cause a controversy with owning weapons. Of course he was able to, and caught people off guard. Back in Alaska, the discovery of past incidents will hopefully tighten up laws, he was able to slide on out and maybe the one way ticket with not luggage is a red flag also.

I believe it was the mayor who said the video was shown in a closed meeting and this was taken with a cell phone camera and *sold* to TMZ. She asked, without needing an answer, whether they would just *give it away* when the business pays a lot for exclusives.

You may be right. I assumed it was a security camera given the angle–too high to be on the same level as the shooter, too low to be on an upper level. But I don’t know the specific layout of the airport in Ft. Lauderdale.

Quite often video surfaces, so does a jihad require a cameraman around to record the events…..or is it just coincidence. whoever took the video had the camera on him prior to pulling the gun…and no one in his path could see it coming. So how did the camera man know?

He deliberately flew to a populated Bairport at this time of year, open fired killing and wounding people. The POS then gave himself up, did not save a bullet for himself and did not confront the police. He cleary demonstrated and understood what he was doing was a crime. He clearly valued his own pathetic life.
The motive is the same, he was inspired by ISIS period and he turned on his own country. This was another cowardly Islamic attack. I don’t see Catholics or Christians or Jews or Buddhists or Hindu’s or even Atheists doing this and when it does happen it’s usually over drugs and money no one raises that God be damned index finger salute or yells “I’m not a Jew” or Alluh Ahkbar.
Robert or someone needs to get on the air everyday and point the facts of Jihad out and come up with a plan to stop these premeditated jihad attacks done in the name of Mohammad may pigs shit on him.

I am copy pasting this comment that I posted on another page: “Muslim/Islamic organizations (state sponsored and independent) are buying/influencing the media.

It may sound paranoid, but it’s true. I have proof for anyone that is willing to listen. “They” are paying individuals to pose as secular and even right wing, and promote pro Islamist ideas. An example of a quasi/pretend secular, paid to promote Islam/Islamization of the West is “Craig Considine”.

The accusations of Islamophobia, racism, pro Muslim demonstrations, pro Muslim news organizations and websites, etc.. are not at all random. It is not by chance that they are pro Islamic. Everything that you’re seeing, the hypocrisy in the media, the slanderous accusations of any rational organization or people as bigots and the like, is all organized. If you try to warn of the dangers of Islam, you will get pegged as a bigoted extremist, a racist or an Islamophobe. And you people have no counter to it. Simply whining about it on this site is not going to make the problem go away. They/Islam/Muslims are winning this war. Slowly, but surely, they are taking over.

You say — ” running this website itself will not make any difference”.
A comment that is both bland and obtuse , at best.
This site provides ( for one thing) an insight into the machinations of violent Jihad, thus giving Joe citizen a viewpoint the PC shackled MSM are too cowered to provide.
By all accounts sites such as Jihad Watch and the like, are crucial to informing people of the real threat they face in the form of Islamic fanaticism.
You also say “you people have no counter to it” and ” Simply whining about it on this site is not going to make the problem go away” and “But running this website itself will not make any difference “.
WELL Johnny Boy, it seems as if this site is not proactive enough for you.
Tell me John, seeing that you’re SO vocal about affirmative action —- what have you done personally in that regard.
If your answer to that is NOTHING — then don’t belittle the Admin and posters on this site for doing a lot more than that.
Either pull your head in or get the hell out there and DO whatever you think we here are NOT doing.

John – I have made a particular study of Craig Considine and his dishonest propaganda for Islam, in fact I used to regularly challenge his claims on his blog until he banned me, but I see no indication that he is doing it for money. To me he appears to fully believe it and I am inclined to believe he has simply fallen in love with Mohammed (he’s so masterful, you know).

This site is awesome. It disseminates current event info that the mainstream suppresses, it provides a sense of community for rational folk (and our pet troll itace), and it provides lots of expert perspectives on the growing crisis via Glasov Gang videos, etc.

“An example of a quasi/pretend secular, paid to promote Islam/Islamization of the West is “Craig Considine”. ”

Craig “Cowardly” Considine, I call him, on the grounds he pre-emptively moderates – and deletes – my posts. Sure, his blog, his rules – but it’s very telling he won’t rebut my arguments and instead merely deletes my posts so his followers won’t see them. What would he have to fear if reason was on his side?

He is paid to promote anti West, anti Christian, anti Conservative, pro Islamic/Muslim views. I know of another paid media troll just like him. But I suspect that they are just two of many.

The point I am trying to make is that they are trying to influence gullible people. And there are many people that are stupid and easily influenced.

Now, I know of the country of origin of one such Muslim/Islamic organization that is promoting pro Islamic, anti West propaganda. This organization hires Internet shills to pose as conservatives and write obnoxious, racist comments online, pose as atheists to attack Christians, etc.. And these guys have known links to terrorist organizations.

These people are every definition of the word, terrorists and I am wondering what my options are here. Dude, what is it that I can do here?

Russia is not involved in propagating any pro Islamic propaganda. The groups I am referring to, I suspect that they receive funding from various Middle Eastern sources such as Saudis. But a country that I know for a fact is involved in pushing Islam into the West, is Pakistan.

There are Pakistani origin, paid Internet shills that pretend to be European, American, White, etc.. to forward their pro Islamic agenda.

Emerson is Ralph Waldo Emerson, who was a 19th-century American essayist, lecturer, and poet who championed individualism; and Rūmī is an 11th-century Persian poet who would be considered a heretic by all orthodox Muslims. Even given Rūmī’s eccentricity, it is questionable how much the two had in common.

But it doesn’t matter–this is pushing the idea that Islam is compatible with Western human and individual rights, which it clearly is not.

Considine–as has been covered here at Jihad Watch–is either dishonest or else deeply stupid.

The “mental illness” thing may be overstated. He didn’t look like a spaced out zombie in that clip. He was determined, but nervous. He ran after his first shots. He lay down spread eagle after running out of ammunition, waiting for the Police. So he wasn’t suicidal. I believe he was acting as a “Soldier of Allah”, maybe a little unbalance but not insane.

I just saw some deliberately draw a firearm, point it at a person and fire it with intent to kill them. The firearm was loaded and hot (one in the chamber) and carried in the waist ready to be drawn. Malice of forethought, presence of mind, and like I said a deliberate act of violence. There is absolutely no excuse for what he did. I don’t care if his mother made him sit backwards on the toilet, on drugs or even insane. If some is that insane, it would be more merciful to execute them. He needs to be executed and speedily, for the victims sake and for justice sake and as a deterrent.

I took one look at this picture and got REALLY PISSED………The two (Non Military, probably liberal),characters bebind the shooter, did NOT NAIL this asshole, after the first shot ! ! ! !
Remember the guys in france taking down a similar dude ? ? ?
Everyone in this Country should pray daily for the safety of those who protect us, and Yes, even the cops.
SERIOUSLY…LOOK at the Opportunity..shownin this tape?
I’d hope that these people would be Drummed out of any of our Military branches for COWARDESS .

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