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Against the Pokemon of trainers who are presented as competent in battling, rarely, if ever, do we see their main Pokemon effectively get one-shot from one super-effective attack. The fact that Skitty was able to do it to a competent Pokemon commanded by a competent trainer is mind-numbing.

What made Erika so competent? She didn't seem all that strong to me. A Jynx is engulfed in Fire Spin and finished off with a physical attack.

You've been watching this show for years, virtually 90% of the shows battles play out with the protagonist beating their opponent in only one or two attacks.

You just watched said episode, Jynx was engulfed in flames. It was then finished off with a physical hit.

Your entire premise is that Skitty was able to conjure up a powerful enough Fire Spin attack, a weak fire attack in the anime, to not only stop and repel a Hyper Beam and beat Jynx in effectively one hit. Skitty has never shown that kind of power up to that point.

Fighting for real American turtles everywhere. Pro-Turtle since 6/30/13

Your entire premise is that Skitty was able to conjure up a powerful enough Fire Spin attack, a weak fire attack in the anime, to not only stop and repel a Hyper Beam and beat Jynx in effectively one hit. Skitty has never shown that kind of power up to that point.

It was Combusken's Fire Spin, and that was its main attack move, (Combusken never learned Flamethrower...that was the first attack it always used after evolving), and Skitty used it after multiple tries to get to the one it needed. Since Jynx is part ice type, the move was supereffective and then struck with Tackle as a last resort.

I'm not sure how you would have had it any other way. Certainly better than Skitty doubleslapping Jynx to death with its tail or something.

It was Combusken's Fire Spin, and that was its main attack move, (Combusken never learned Flamethrower...that was the first attack it always used after evolving),

Implying that it retains the same attack power that Combusken could produce. Nothing of the sort has ever been stated from what I remember.

and Skitty used it after multiple tries to get to the one it needed. Since Jynx is part ice type, the move was supereffective and then struck with Tackle as a last resort.

Skitty used it once. Every other Assist maneuver had been rendered useless sans String Shot which May had messed up anyway. Your final point is what we're discussing here in the first place. Prove that Fire Spin retains the same power that it has when used by Combusken or that Skitty has enough power itself to overpower an attack such as Hyper Beam and one-shot that Jynx because we both know that Tackle is **** in the anime.

I'll play with you tomorrow if you have something.

Fighting for real American turtles everywhere. Pro-Turtle since 6/30/13

What on earth? Assist always takes the same power as attacks from other moves, that's what the attack does.

Are you trying to use the game mechanics as reference to what a move does on a the show? Really now?

Do you not know what Assist does in the games? Its likely the same in the anime.

It allows the Pokemon to use an attack known by a Pokemon in the party. Hilariously, you use the games as proof to reinforce your claim but fail to realize that its power is based off of the Pokemon using Assist and not the other Pokemon.

"The user hurriedly and randomly uses a move among those known by other Pokémon in the party."

"The user randomly picks and uses a move of an allied Pokémon."

"Attacks randomly with one of the partner’s moves."

"Attacks randomly with one of the partner’s moves."

"The user hurriedly and randomly uses a move among those known by other Pokémon in the party."

Fighting for real American turtles everywhere. Pro-Turtle since 6/30/13

And thus it uses a fire spin attack to win. I am not sure why this actually bothers you so much.

You must think that I'm one of the regular PAD posters here and that I don't know how to argue. You never successfully addressed my request: "Prove that Fire Spin retains the same power that it has when used by Combusken or that Skitty has enough power itself to overpower an attack such as Hyper Beam and one-shot that Jynx because we both know that Tackle is **** in the anime."

I've already shot the "same power that Combusken has" argument above so prove that Skitty has enough power to do so on its own or find a quotation from the show stating something about retaining said power. Otherwise you'll look as clueless as you did the last time you tried to defend the show's bad writing.

Fighting for real American turtles everywhere. Pro-Turtle since 6/30/13

I wouldn't call this contest bad or good, it was more of a meh to me. May puts all her fath in Skitty and she won it all. She was trying to get Fire Spin was intressing and did do more harm then good. But the Fire Spin is a super effective move and it did stop Jinx in it tracks. I'm really thinking that alot of May's oppenent in alot of contest like using Psyhic move on her alot. Anyway my ranting of this episode is a 7.5/10 even though it had it set of problems, but it was okay for a final match for May and Skitty.

This episode picked up where "Mean with Envy" left off. Team Rocket cheated big time in this episode! I'm glad Erica's Jynx send them flying after they tried to capture her.

The battle between May's Skitty and Joshua's Houndoom was bad......no it was Stupid! I hate how one of my favourite Johto Fire-type Pokémon lost to a freaking Skitty. The battle between Erica's Jynx and May's OP Skitty was bad as well, I think the writers just rushed the battle and made Skitty superstrong so May can win the battle.
Overall, this was a badly written contest episode. The last episode was much better than this nonsense.

Pokémon XY

Kalos, Where Dreams and Adventures Begin!

Originally Posted by DaDonYordel

Are we not just silly people writing silly complaints on this message board?

This episode picked up where "Mean with Envy" left off. Team Rocket cheated big time in this episode! I'm glad Erica's Jynx send them flying after they tried to capture her.

The battle between May's Skitty and Joshua's Houndoom was bad......no it was Stupid! I hate how one of my favourite Johto Fire-type Pokémon lost to a freaking Skitty. The battle between Erica's Jynx and May's OP Skitty was bad as well, I think the writers just rushed the battle and made Skitty superstrong so May can win the battle.
Overall, this was a badly written contest episode. The last episode was much better than this nonsense.

LOL, what? Skitty beat Jynx using Assist for Fire Spin, how is that badly written? Jynx is part ice so it was weak to it. In fact this was one of the best animated battles at that time. I'll agree the Houndoom match was meh though.

@CyberCubed, different people has different opinions. Just because you think it wasn't badly written, dosen't mean I have to agree with you on that. Hoenn has it's fair share of good and bad episodes. this is just one of the bad episodes IMO.

Edit: I don't think I need to talk about the Fire Spin, Vernikova already explained about it.

Last edited by PokemontrainerY; 30th November 2013 at 7:25 AM.

Pokémon XY

Kalos, Where Dreams and Adventures Begin!

Originally Posted by DaDonYordel

Are we not just silly people writing silly complaints on this message board?