If you can't afford Harley, don't try to trash them or compare them to Apple, Harley is an investment, they get value with time. I own a LowBoy I pay $ 23,000 5 years ago , someone offer me $ 30k for it few month ago.....and I don't eat shit.....

I would have taken the offer......

I actually entertained the idea of getting a mac just to see what the buzz is about but I just can't get past the price.......

While I find their notebooks and desktops outrageously priced, I don't find their mobile devices all that bad. The iPhone, iPad, iPod, etc. all have prices that are well within the market's constraints.

Well I'll agree with you SKYMTL the mobiles are within the price of most mobiles and the devices are great for point and click people but are horrible for techsavy people , the desktops use to be a excellent product for the graphical user but now are no more then a proprietary over priced over glamorized PC that if you don't have one your not part of the "IN" crowd .