Full Video: Once again, Bill O'Reilly of Fox News attacks the Majority of Americans and 72% of the Republicans AKA Birthers AKA Constitutionalists. And, this time he brought out the big guns, Karl Rove. However, he forgot to bring the ammo with him. The short discussion was about the Shocking Poll recently released showing the Birthers are actually the Majority and they themselves are actually the Minority.

Let me explain it again; In the state of Hawaii, at the time of Obama's birth, and even still today, foreign-born children could/can easily obtain a Hawaiian COLB. That also would have triggered the newspaper announcements as they were produced from a list sent by the Hawaii DOH, not the hospital. Not that it Matters where Obama was Born...

Check out the different Obama COLBs posted online by Obama's campaign. Also, if you missed it, meet the only 2 people to examine the Factcheck.org COLB(s), and one of them wasn't Bill O'Reilly or Anderson Pooper;

The two FactCheck.org employees who were granted access to Obama’s bogus Certification of Live Birth (COLB) are NOT document examiners or experts. Joe Miller has a Ph. D. in Political Philosophy — so he’s a political operative — while Jess Henig has an M.A. in English Literature — I’m not sure her dye-job is a political or esthetic statement.They are a couple of partisan Obots — just what you’d expect — Jess took the photos presented on their webpage and did all of the writing, while Bob basically held the COLB open for Jess to photograph — suitable work for a Ph. D.

Those two are completely unqualified to perform any kind of forensic examination of any document, and FactCheck.org knows it — and so do Henig and Miller.

FactCheck does say their, “representatives got a chance to spend some time with the ‘birth certificate,’ and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago.” In my mind, that clearly shows they were working with and for the Obama Campaign and that Obama and his people are involved in this lie. Much more HERE.

And this; - Blogger manipulates birth certificate image, undermining Obama claims - Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of palpably fake Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same Daily Kos blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears. Much more HERE and HERE.

And this oldie;Hawaii Officials refuse to verify president's online COLBs images released by Obama's campaign and FactCheck.org...
In response to a direct question from WND, the Hawaii Department of Health refused to authenticate either of the two versions of President Obama's short-form Certificate of Live Birth, or COLB, posted online – neither the image produced by the Obama campaign nor the images released by FactCheck.org. Janice Okubu, the public information officer for the Hawaii DOH, also had no explanation for why Dr. Fukino's initial press release last October and subsequent press release also avoided declaring the posted images to be of authentic documents.

FactCheck.org, an organization funded by the same left-leaning Annenberg Foundation that also employed Barack Obama and former Weatherman radical bomber Bill Ayers, produced a short-form Obama COLB that was very different in appearance than the campaign released. Source. And much more HERE.

Forgery is nothing new to the Obama campaign, via Debbie Schlussel;Obama’s Selective Service Draft Registration Raises Serious Questions.
Did President-elect Barack Hussein Obama commit a federal crime in September of this(last) year? Or did he never actually register and, instead, did friends of his in the Chicago federal records center, which maintains the official copy of his alleged Selective Service registration commit the crime for him?
It’s either one or the other, as indicated by the release of Barack Obama’s official Selective Service registration for the draft. The full investigative report is HERE.

And via Give us Liberty; EXPLOSIVE...more proof that AKA OBAMA is a fraud and very likely not even an American citizen!... - Obama conspiracy – It’s no longer just a theory - A man who fails to register with SS before turning 26 may find that some doors are permanently closed. This is a must read HERE.

Factcheck.org – Inaccuracy #2: While Obama’s status as a British citizen may have been short lived, Factcheck.org failed to state that his status as a British subject was not short lived. Research has discovered multiple legal mechanisms which have the potential to establish that Obama is now a full citizen of Kenya as well as the United Kingdom, the European Union, the Commonwealth of Nations and the Republic of Indonesia. Source.

Confirmed:- Democratic Party of Hawaii would not certify in 2008 that Obama was constitutionally and legally eligible for the Office of President - Source.

Im ready to just give up.This is draining me and alot of other people focusing on this everyday for the last 2 years and NOTHING IS CHANGING.We cant win because we are outnumbered and we don't have enough help.They all are a bunch of spoiled brats and they always get there way because they have the money,media and the courts

Don't give up, folks. What's that they say about the bigger they are? As for Bill, what a pathetic ignoramus this clown is. Now HE is making a mockery of his own "No Spin" claptrap. He isn't the most inquisitive sort, what with his lapping up whatever Kool Aid the Obamunists pee his way to convince him not to think that Barry is anything but a natural born citizen. Bill again tries to lecture us that his cursory investigation holds water. Please, don't insult us, man!

Now is not the time to give up. Keep informing other's of the truth. According to Kenya Parliament he was born there, not even a native of America. Feel free to explain to me how the son of a foreigner is eligible to become CIC of the United States.

O'Reilly and Cooper and the others reacting the way they are is a sign we are winning...do not give up. I too am tired of Congress and the media pretending the usurper is legit, and I have been fighting this for at least two years.....but I will not give up...my country is worth the fight, however long it takes....

If a child were born in any other country than the USA, she or he would need a US visa or to be entered on the mother’s US passport in order to be allowed to enter the USA. If such a document existed for Obama, it would have to have been applied for, and the files of the applications for it would still exist–and NO SUCH DOCUMENT HAS BEEN FOUND.

Re: "All pre-1965 passport records for Obama's mama were said to be destroyed, per FOIA requests..."

You haven't read the question carefully. See where it says the applications. It refers to an application for a US visa in Kenya in 1961 or an application for a change to a persons's passport to include a child in Kenya in 1961.

Those would not be in the passport files. They would be in the files of applications for visas or applications for changes to passports. There would have been a few such applications in Kenya in 1961--and NONE for Obama has been found.

In addition, only WND has claimed that Kenya seized records of Obama's birth and records of his parents' arrival in Kenya in 1961. No one has confirmed this.

Are we to believe that a corrupt, inefficient, split Kenyan government has been so efficient that it not only seized all the documents relating to birth and arrivals of parents--it was able to hide from thousands of foreigners and hundreds of diplomats and journalists even the fact that it had seized the documents?

The application, if one exists, would ALSO be in the files of applications for visas in Kenya and applications for passport changes in Kenya. So, if anyone actually did delete a change to the passport from Obama's mother's file, it would STILL be there in the files of applications for documents in Kenya in 1961.

Anonymous @ 10:05am: There would have been no reason to apply for a visa for baby Barky. His grandmother, in HI at the time of his birth, had filed his Certification of Live Birth, securing US citizenship for her Kenyan grandson. Incidentally, the filing of the Certification of Live Birth is what prompted the local newspapers to print the birth announcement. The only evidence of Kenyan baby Barky's first entrance into the US was his mother's passport, the records of which were destroyed.

Anonymous @ 10:05am: There would have been no reason to apply for a visa for baby Barky. His grandmother, in HI at the time of his birth, had filed his Certification of Live Birth, securing US citizenship for her Kenyan grandson. Incidentally, the filing of the Certification of Live Birth is what prompted the local newspapers to print the birth announcement. The only evidence of Kenyan baby Barky's first entrance into the US was his mother's passport, the records of which were destroyed.

"Are we to believe that a corrupt, inefficient, split Kenyan government has been so efficient that it not only seized all the documents relating to birth and arrivals of parents--it was able to hide from thousands of foreigners and hundreds of diplomats and journalists even the fact that it had seized the documents?"

Yes. In fact, destruction of such records would be easier done in a corrupt, inefficient, split govt than in a lesser corrupt, efficient and united govt.

Only an efficient government could seize all the records and then hide the fact that it had seized them. Clerks talk about the files that were taken. People notice when pages are cut out of registers. Thousands of foreigners live in Kenya. Hundreds of diplomats, and yet there have not even been rumors (except for the claim by WND, which has not been confirmed) that Kenya seized files.

Thousands of foreigners, hundreds of diplomats, journalists from all over the word, freelance journalists who would be paid well for a story saying that Kenya had sealed files--and not one report, except in WND.

Re: There would have been no reason to apply for a visa for baby Barky. His grandmother, in HI at the time of his birth, had filed his Certification of Live Birth, securing US citizenship for her Kenyan grandson. “

Answer: To take up the Hawaii grandmother first. No, she could not have done that because Hawaii did not allow “walk in” or “call in” birth registrations. Whenever there was a claim that a child was born outside of a hospital, the officials in Hawaii demanded a witness statement, such as from the doctor or midwife.

That also holds for the announcements in the newspapers. They were generated by the notices sent to them by the department of vital records, and the department of vital records DID NOT allow grandmothers or anyone else to walk in and claim “my grandson was born at home.”

Now, turning to the visa or US passport. You claim that the records in Obama’s mother’s passport file were destroyed. However, I pointed out that there would have been an APPLICATION to change her passport, and it would have had to have occurred in Kenya (they would not grant the change unless and until the child was born). There would be files of APPLICATIONS for visas and APPLICATIONS for changes to the passport, filed under applications in Kenya in 1961—and no such document has been found.

It would be easy to find because there were not all that many applications in 1961. The Republicans were in charge of the US State Department and the CIA for eight years until January 2009—and NO such document was found.

Answer: To take up the Hawaii grandmother first. No, she could not have done that because Hawaii did not allow “walk in” or “call in” birth registrations. Whenever there was a claim that a child was born outside of a hospital, the officials in Hawaii demanded a witness statement, such as from the doctor or midwife.

That also holds for the announcements in the newspapers. They were generated by the notices sent to them by the department of vital records, and the department of vital records DID NOT allow grandmothers or anyone else to walk in and claim “my grandson was born at home.”

Yes, they did. Further, an adult could walk in and say, "I was born here before HI became a state of the US," and file a Certification of Live Birth. In fact, that was the initial reason for the Certification of Live Birth: There were Hawaiians living in Hawaii when Hawaii became a state of the USA who then became American citizens. That they were alive was proof that they were born living, hence the title of the document "Certification of Live Birth."

It's obvious you've not educated yourself on any of this. I suggest you do so. This site is as good a place as any to commence your education and play catch up with the rest of us. After you've caught up, we'll continue this discussion.

"Obot," indeed. They say no good deed goes unpunished. Getting myself tangled up in an argument must be my punishment for trying to answer what I thought were serious questions asked by a sincerely interested person.

John Bingham, "father" of the 14th Amendment, the abolitionist congressman from Ohio who prosecuted Lincoln's assassins, reaffirmed the definition known to the framers by reiterating Vattel's definition...not once, but TWICE during Congressional discussions of Citizenship pertaining to the upcoming 14th Amendment!

Vattel's definition for "natural born citizen" was read into the Congressional Record during the Civil War.

"All from other lands, who by the terms of [congressional] laws and a compliance with their provisions become naturalized, are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens except what is said in the Constitution relating to Indians." (Cong. Globe, 37th, 2nd Sess., 1639 (1862)).

Vattel's definition for "natural born citizen" was read into the Congressional Record after the Civil War.

“every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))"

Nobody questioned or debated Congressman Bingham on who was a "natural born Citizen." They ALL knew exactly what the Constitutional phrase meant. Born in the sovereign territory to 2 citizen parents.

Re: "Yes, they did." in response to the statement that Hawaii did NOT allow "walk in" registrations.

Answer: Who told you this? What is your source? What makes you believe that Hawaii simply allowed people to claim that the child was born at home and issued a birth certificate that said in it "born in Hawaii (Honolulu actually) simply because the parents or grandparents claimed that the child was born at home?

Who told you that? What is your source?

Here is some research from a PUMA who was trying to prove that Obama was not born in Hawaii that proves that the "walk in" claim is NOT true. From the PUMA Lori Starfelt, who tried to prove that Obama was NOT born in Hawaii, and found the contrary.

“In 1961, the hospitals would take their new birth certificates to Vital Records. At the end of the week, Vital Records would post a sheet that for the news paper to pick up that contained births, deaths, marriages and divorces. The Advertiser routinely printed this information in their Sunday edition. This is not a paid announcement that his grandmother could arrange. This is information that comes from Vital Records – we know this because this particular section reflects those records. They didn’t have a provision for paid, one sentence announcement that would be included in the Vital Records. At the time, if a child was born outside a hospital, the family would have 30 days to apply for a birth certificate and Vital Records would expect to see prenatal care records, or pediatrician records of the first check up, etc. They’d also want the notarized statement from the mid-wife. Of course, they can apply later but that would noted as a different kind of birth certificate. I think TD has already addressed that. This information was received by Vital Records the first week of his birth = that suggests the hospital.”

Let me repeat: “At the time, if a child was born outside a hospital, the family would have 30 days to apply for a birth certificate and Vital Records would expect to see prenatal care records, or pediatrician records of the first check up, etc. They’d also want the notarized statement from the mid-wife.”

So, the question is what made you think that a person could just waltz in and claim that a child was born in Hawaii and get a Hawaii birth certificate with a Hawaii place of birth on it?

What did I tell you? Get yourself educated on the topic and then we'll discuss. I'm not going back through two and half years of sources to get you caught up. Do it for yourself. Until then, we've nothing to discuss.

An educated electorate is the best defense against a corrupt administration. And the lame stream media need not apply. It is amazing how many people can speak so intelligently and confidently about this subject. All of this knowledge garnered without one ounce of help from the big alphabet soup networks. All that was needed was a healthy skepticism and a desire to protect the Constitution and the American ideal. It makes a body proud. No wonder the polls are showing that the issue is gaining momentum and not decreasing. The polls would also show, if taken, that no one really cares what O'Reilly thinks, or Hannity, or Limbaugh, OR, yes, even the Obamabots. They can ridicule and distort and scream all they want. That will only move the ignorant. They cannot shake the facts from the informed masses.

“As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837)

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