The primary goal of this site is to provide mature, meaningful discussion about the Vancouver Canucks. However, we all need a break some time so this forum is basically for anything off-topic, off the wall, or to just get something off your chest! This forum is named after poster Creeper, who passed away in July of 2011 and was a long time member of the Canucks message board community.

Ethnic cleansing by wholesale mass murder is what the Nazi's did, to suggest that's what the Israelis are doing is a little over the top.

You suggested putting "pressure on Palestinians until there is no longer a Palestinian identity to along with no Palestine as a place is the only course that guarantees Israel's survival".

Ethnic Cleansing (According to the UN): "rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove from a given area persons of another ethnic or religious group."

I'm not suggesting they do it, I'm saying that as a tactic it's the only one with predictable outcomes.Besides what would you call building settlements and encouraging immigration into occupied territory ?

RoyalDude wrote:this is the problem. Back during the Exodus with the help of the Queen Loving Protestants of Britain, when the Jews bullied their way back in to what is Israel now, they never figured out how to keep the Palestines drunk, happy and sloppy like whitey did with the Natives when Columbus first hit these shores way back. Unlike our Natives, the Palestines have a little bit more push back than our beloved Natives and do not share the Natives loves for getting shit faced happy.

Wait up, the same very Natives that the 'Amuricans love of their fight of so much that they call their beloved NFL, NHL and MLB teams after them?

First Nations are still in the fight everyday! From road blocks to civilized court rulings for treaties, to stopping and kicking land surveyors off of their land for natural gas/fracking bs, and the now stopping of the Enbridge Northern Gateway pipeline.

That land is Crown Land. The Canadian Courts have ensured that anyone with with project on Crown Land that is subject to Indian land claims has a duty to consult with the Indians.

That is it, a duty to consult.

The Indians do not have a veto on those projects.

but what about on res lands? I got family in Kelowna, Westbank, ironically enough. Anyway the WFN there wants to build a for profit private hospital that would or might contravene the Canadian healthcare act.. The legality of which no one seems to know. Its on res lands so they can build what they damn well please and they have the money from all the development along Hwy 97.

The group I work with politely declines the blackmail letter demanding a fee to review our notice of work applications.

We will however, as we do for all stakeholders, pay reasonable expenses to meet with them to discuss the project. We also discuss employment possibilities and other opportunities they may have in participating in the project. At the same time we make it very clear that employment and other opportunities are based upon performance and competitiveness.

We have hired a few Indians who have been great employees and we have offered them jobs on other projects throughout BC and the Yukon. Unfortunately the majority of the Indians we hire feel a sense of entitlement and are less than willing to earn their paychecks and usually are not even willing to show up for work on a daily basis. Sadly the ratio of deadbeats to workers that we find is around 50 to 1.

I'm sure you will not be surprised to know the best Indian employees we have made a decision years ago to leave the reserve and the socioeconomic nightmare the reserve system fosters.

Topper wrote:The group I work with politely declines the blackmail letter demanding a fee to review our notice of work applications.

We will however, as we do for all stakeholders, pay reasonable expenses to meet with them to discuss the project. We also discuss employment possibilities and other opportunities they may have in participating in the project. At the same time we make it very clear that employment and other opportunities are based upon performance and competitiveness.

We have hired a few Indians who have been great employees and we have offered them jobs on other projects throughout BC and the Yukon. Unfortunately the majority of the Indians we hire feel a sense of entitlement and are less than willing to earn their paychecks and usually are not even willing to show up for work on a daily basis. Sadly the ratio of deadbeats to workers that we find is around 50 to 1.

I'm sure you will not be surprised to know the best Indian employees we have made a decision years ago to leave the reserve and the socioeconomic nightmare the reserve system fosters.

You hire South East Asians to dig dirt? Not very local (butt globally gregarious of you).

It's funny because the inbred white rednecks I see would love the opportunity not to show up for work but they are to busy at the off-track betting parlour to bother.