gtfo forever duelist. just because a class has been or is good now, doesnt mean they should suck ever. I wish warriors werent bad at the end of cata. why would i want any class to suck? the answer is i dont. It would be extremely bias and foolish if my entire goal was to hope that everyone was bad while my class was god.

Doesn't surprise me about the warlock nerfs.. I think I remember reading somewhere that gc was saying most of the complaints in pvp were about warlocks(How he came to this i'm not sure, never even see warlocks since the demo nerf)... Plus warlocks apparently rape in pve so nerfs were expected. Hopefully these patch notes get changed quite a bit.

I feel like we just got completely gutted, as much as everyone hates blood fear it made us wanted in teams, we weren't even top tier http://www.crossladd...om/arena/stats/ 6% representation on par with dks?

the biggest joke was the nerf to our sacrificial pact

blood fear did so many things for us that we wont be able to do anymore fearing pounce clones, along with stopping mage openers on our healer wont happen anymore, good luck ever fearing a shaman next patch with 30second tremor and rogues viability going way up. Its going to be like season 11 without the damage and ua protection doesnt mean anything with the new dispell system. Blood Fear gave us more damage some people dont realize this but it lets you get to a better position and makes it so you didnt get locked out or spend less time faking so our damage will drop a fair bit after this nerf, even though their is no damage nerfs this will greatly affect it.

I agree blood fear could have used a nerf, I actually think this nerf would be fine if we got to keep regular fear, but fearing once every 30seconds (two whole DR's completely.rapes warlocks)

destro got hit with g sac spec also, along with affliction with the spell lock change

I feel like we just got completely gutted, as much as everyone hates blood fear it made us wanted in teams, we weren't even top tier http://www.crossladd...om/arena/stats/ 6% representation on par with dks?

the biggest joke was the nerf to our sacrificial pact

blood fear did so many things for us that we wont be able to do anymore fearing pounce clones, along with stopping mage openers on our healer wont happen anymore, good luck ever fearing a shaman next patch with 30second tremor and rogues viability going way up. Its going to be like season 11 without the damage and ua protection doesnt mean anything with the new dispell system.

I agree blood fear could have used a nerf, I actually think this nerf would be fine if we got to keep regular fear, but fearing once every 30seconds (two whole DR's completely.rapes warlocks)

destro got hit with g sac spec also, along with affliction with the spell lock change

I agree with everything you said but I believe the blood fear is now a proc that lasts 60 seconds on a 30 second cooldown, but it does not replace castable fear, if I read correctly.

The caster will be afflicted by fear meaning it is a proc, basically when we say "holy shit im popping all my defensives" and you're still dying through it, your character sympathizes and is afraid. Giving you one instant fear but not removing the casted fear.

Well 5.2 seems like a good time to reroll shadow priest based off these changes. At least I'll be on par with everyone else gear-wise.

Dråthik1296679993, on 22 December 2012 - 03:44 AM, said:

The caster will be afflicted by fear meaning it is a proc, basically when we say "holy shit im popping all my defensives" and you're still dying through it, your character sympathizes and is afraid. Giving you one instant fear but not removing the casted fear.

Blood Fear should be something like this : while activated any melee attacker that deals damage to the warlock is horrified for 4 seconds, cannot afflict the same target more than once, 10 secs duration, 1 min cd,(edit) no health cost ( should not self harm self when using a cd to defend ourselves, seems conflicting imo).

So after reading a bit....I think sleep is a disorient. Am I the only one that noticed that glyph? Idk about the rest of you but I think being able to cc a warrior/dk reliably is a huge buff...especially if it works with the new blood fear.