(((Delle))) don't go down that guilt road about this. Even purely from her standpoint, this is not a good time for her to take a long trip. She should be focused on planning and budgeting for the really IMPORTANT Rite of Passage in her life: starting at University. And spending that precious bit of time with her brother, on their own. She may not see it that way right now, but, that's why she still needs her wise-headed mother to advise her on this. It's a good opportunity at a bad time, which makes it no opportunity at all.

YOU have worked and planned and made arrangements for your trip, for months. She must see it's not right for her screw things up at this point, even if she had limitless time and cash, which she does not. It is not not NOT your fault that she can't go.

"You can be whoever you want to be, and sometimes people laugh and sometimes they clap, and mostly and beautifully they don't really care."

Dammit Bill, kids can just rip us up can't they? Only time and the continuing mantra of "she will have her chances at the brass ring, right now it's my turn" will slowly appease it. Once those university bills start hitting and her account starts dwindling down, she will appreciate having her money right where she needs it. I believe its important we show kids to value themselves, and we show that by valuing ourselves.

And Dammit Delle I need my hug in the dust from you!

When the only tool you got is a hammer, every problem looks like a hippie.

Mmmmmm I love the smell of Burning Man - Token

Getting overly dramatic about the ticket sale process is so 2012. - Maladroit

Ah, kids. Mine was rarin' to leave home as soon as he learned to walk. He was nice enough to wait until he was 17. Saved us a bundle on the college money. We were, and are, very close but, Dammit, Bill - he just had to have his freedom.

"I have gobs of mustard and ketchup on the front of my shirt, which does not make me a hot dog." Sam A. McKeen

VANCOUVER !!!????? Did I read that correctly?? Ah well, it's true,(a) there will be other chances ( and, maybe next time, I'll be around to enjoy it with her! )(b) having you guys @ Burning Man is much more important right now...

" if you want to make a song more hummy, add a few tiddleypoms"A.A. Milne

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut..... she'd have had to board a plane pretty much directly to get back.

.....presuming the two of them didn't go all Thelma & Louise on me and never quite make it. (ahhhh, girls and roadtrips. gotta luv it)

Anyhow, yes, she realized it wasn't the best plan for this year and has wisely put it off for another time. Yeah!

A little quiz for Triken and Neata: Just how do you think Mom & Dad might have responded if any of us had come up with a plan like this??? and actually had the guts to ask it outloud no wonder I hate to say no.....

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Worry is a misuse of imagination“She hadblue skin, And so didhe. He kept it hid And so did she.They searched for blueTheir whole life through, Then passed right by- And never knew.” Shel Silverstein

I visited a nice home for sale this weekend. The current owners are my kind of people - they work the haunted house in October, they keep chickens and bees in the backyard, and the have a five-gallon carboy of MEAD!I was about to put down an offer for it, but I just remembered there's another home I liked that is a short sale and is having some delays with their current buyer. Just thinking that I might buy this one house, at about 8-9 on a scale of 1-10, and later what if this other house comes back on the market (it's a solid 10)?Damnit Bill!At least my new lady is offering support.

Ugly Dougly wrote:I visited a nice home for sale this weekend. The current owners are my kind of people - they work the haunted house in October, they keep chickens and bees in the backyard, and the have a five-gallon carboy of MEAD!I was about to put down an offer for it, but I just remembered there's another home I liked that is a short sale and is having some delays with their current buyer. Just thinking that I might buy this one house, at about 8-9 on a scale of 1-10, and later what if this other house comes back on the market (it's a solid 10)?Damnit Bill!At least my new lady is offering support.

with that attitude, you may want to watch for "buyers remorse" as well.......if you buy one, you'll regret the other.....

jump in Dougly!! nuthin's perfect, and everything, is just as it should be.you, sir, will make it your own, no matter.

DAMMIT BILL! the ticket begging is just too much to take. A blanket good luck to all the needy. I feel I'm not worthy of my own ticket in comparison to all the Awesomeness that won't make it this year to the playa. I don't want to know how awful it is, SANTA IS NOT COMING BACK TO YOUR HOUSE on the 26th of DECEMBER> this is the dead letter office.

I was excited to get my tent the other day so I set it up to air out. Well, dammit Bill! a storm brewed up while I was at Lowes getting tarps and rebar. When I got home the tent was flat up against the fence. I'm stupid and didn't stake it down. So the beau and I set it back up again and drained a gallon of water that came in thru the screens. Now it's up, with the tarps over it so I can plan the roping and rebar. So much for a dry run!

There are 2 dates on your tombstone and all you're friends will read 'em, but the only thing that matters is that little dash between 'em. - Kevin Welch

God dammit Bill!! Just checking over the mutant vehicle (built on a trailer) and found that the part that hitches on the truck is cracked at the base. I leave in a few days and the last thing I need is to have to do another repair. I'm only a beginner welder and I don't know if I can get a good weld on it in time. FUCK

Well Dammit Bill, why didn't you use the nice soft squishy kind of concrete on my back stairs? You know, the kind that cell phones love to gently bounce off of. Now it's like I'm typing my posts using some kinda Marcel Duchamp masterpiece..

Dammit Bill, did this stupid trip to Seattle have to be scheduled the week + 1 day before I go on the other trip to the Playa? It's bad enough I don't have much time to order parts and other crap, but to be out of town for EIGHT FUCKING DAYS (which is actually cutting THAT trip short) is a damn wrench in the gears. And then to be asked if I can cancel the BM trip to squeeze in another day? HELL NO. You're lucky to get EIGHT DAYS before I have to scramble to buy the last minute shit and pack everything tight, and all that.

"The essence of tyranny is not iron law. It is capricious law." -- Christopher Hitchens

The psychiatric day facility for my son that I had issues with in mid June worthy of the Fuck File called again on friday 4:30 (as the office was closing), leaving no message with my daughter except "have her call us ASAP". A-fucking-Gain!

I lost between 9am and 1pm today sitting by the phone after having left messages for her to call me back in the morning. MORNING. Only Fucking Morning I HAVE to deal with this.

Only to be told................

.....after MONTHS of them knowing exactly what my plans are (leaving the country on Aug 22nd and returning Sept 10th) and having been promised that he'd have a spot in late September and my leaving wasn't an issue)....

...That our place is slated for August 23rd.

August 23rd.

WTF?

Dammit Bill.

At this rate by the time he actually gets in there I'll be in a padded room on another floor.

Worry is a misuse of imagination“She hadblue skin, And so didhe. He kept it hid And so did she.They searched for blueTheir whole life through, Then passed right by- And never knew.” Shel Silverstein

The psychiatric day facility for my son that I had issues with in mid June worthy of the Fuck File called again on friday 4:30 (as the office was closing), leaving no message with my daughter except "have her call us ASAP". A-fucking-Gain!

I lost between 9am and 1pm today sitting by the phone after having left messages for her to call me back in the morning. MORNING. Only Fucking Morning I HAVE to deal with this.

Only to be told................

.....after MONTHS of them knowing exactly what my plans are (leaving the country on Aug 22nd and returning Sept 10th) and having been promised that he'd have a spot in late September and my leaving wasn't an issue)....

...That our place is slated for August 23rd.

August 23rd.

WTF?

Dammit Bill.

At this rate by the time he actually gets in there I'll be in a padded room on another floor.

Delle, that message left or sent as they walk out the fucking door drives me insane. I get that way too often. It's always just shy of enough information to work with. Seriously I think these folks are playing "hot potato" with people's lives.

But, the fact that they have given you a real firm date means, that you at least know one date that it will certainly NOT happen on... ah, Dammit Bill it really isn't funny.

"You can be whoever you want to be, and sometimes people laugh and sometimes they clap, and mostly and beautifully they don't really care."

MyDearFriend wrote:But, the fact that they have given you a real firm date means, that you at least know one date that it will certainly NOT happen on... ah, Dammit Bill it really isn't funny.

Well, yeah. It kinda is when you put it that way.

Thanks for that!

(I was going to use your Dammit Bill, because I'm over being angry about it for the timebeing. Instead I guess I'll just close with Dammit Bill, this vodka has saved my soul twice with these guys. Maybe I should pour myself a wee drink BEFORE talking to them in future!!!)

Worry is a misuse of imagination“She hadblue skin, And so didhe. He kept it hid And so did she.They searched for blueTheir whole life through, Then passed right by- And never knew.” Shel Silverstein

Went to erect the monkey hut today and the beau bought the wrong size connectors. Dammit Bill! I had the entir shopping list printed out with the correct sizes and quantity. He was looking at the pictures and the plan and couldn't understand the set up. He thought there was a mistake in the sizes and decided to get what he thought they should be. Well, I was really mad coz I've poured over the damn plans for MONTHS and could probably build the damn thing without the damn instructions, just by memory. So a trip back to gnome depot. I've only got one day left to build the Damn thing and get it right.AND I screwed up and got the wrong size hitch installed so now I have to get a stinking adaptor to upgrade from 1 1/4" to a 2". I'm too distracted about the burn that I can't seem to get the prep right. But itll all work out and this time next week, it won't matter.

There are 2 dates on your tombstone and all you're friends will read 'em, but the only thing that matters is that little dash between 'em. - Kevin Welch

dammit Bill, I save from the moment i get back to blighty and like a good well prepared burner I have my ticket money stashed away. Then a job offer that is too good to pass up arrives and i need to be able to fund it. Now i dont have the cash saved anymore. just Dammit Bill.

FREE THE SHERPASBurners with torches is right and natural and just.-fishy.CATCH AND RELEASE.

graidawg wrote:dammit Bill, I save from the moment i get back to blighty and like a good well prepared burner I have my ticket money stashed away. Then a job offer that is too good to pass up arrives and i need to be able to fund it. Now i dont have the cash saved anymore. just Dammit Bill.

one of the lessons of the self employed, GD:sometimes, you gotta spend it, to make it.