Is it wrong to wonder if this new environment can lead to malicious and false accusations, and if so...is that person basically screwed? How do we support the actual victims while still protecting against false accusations that will destroy lives and careers? There are plenty of crazies out there, it's bound to happen.

That's something that bothers me. A false accusation can ruin someones life.

Even if it's proven to be false the seed will have been planted. Some may find that difficult to cope with. LINK

I'm not worried about false accusations in general. That just happens, and it isn't limited to sex crimes. I'm worried about the feeding frenzy in the media right now.

That's a valid concern. But it's important to note that there's no media frenzy if the accusations aren't coming forth. There are legal protections in place to handle false accusations when it comes to the accused. Criminally it's not an issue. But civilly, I can see how a media fed campaign could be very problematic for the falsely accused._________________You thought God was an architect, now you know
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:51 pm Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:

Aeneas Hunter wrote:

jodeke wrote:

Ted wrote:

Is it wrong to wonder if this new environment can lead to malicious and false accusations, and if so...is that person basically screwed? How do we support the actual victims while still protecting against false accusations that will destroy lives and careers? There are plenty of crazies out there, it's bound to happen.

That's something that bothers me. A false accusation can ruin someones life.

Even if it's proven to be false the seed will have been planted. Some may find that difficult to cope with. LINK

I'm not worried about false accusations in general. That just happens, and it isn't limited to sex crimes. I'm worried about the feeding frenzy in the media right now.

That's a valid concern. But it's important to note that there's no media frenzy if the accusations aren't coming forth. There are legal protections in place to handle false accusations when it comes to the accused. Criminally it's not an issue. But civilly, I can see how a media fed campaign could be very problematic for the falsely accused.

That's my concern cases in general. Not all cases, for lack of a better term, are media worthy. Cases not brought to the attention of the public may yield dire consequences for the average Joe. PO can be harmful for the falsely accused._________________Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

The important distinction is whether the media is reacting to accusations or feeding them._________________You thought God was an architect, now you know
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And everything you built that’s all for show
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The important distinction is whether the media is reacting to accusations or feeding them.

They do both as they please.

I agree completely. At this point, it appears coverage seems to be driven by the sheer numbers of accusers feeling empowered to come out by other victims who did so before them as opposed to those encouraged to make capricious allegations based on media frenzy - though at times it appears as if that is becoming an element to consider._________________You thought God was an architect, now you know
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And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
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Terry Crews publicly named for the first time the high-powered talent agent he claims groped him at an industry party and said he would "not be shamed" about the alleged assault.

"Back in February 2016, I was assaulted by Adam Venit, who is head of the Motion Picture Department at William Morris Endeavor, one of the biggest agencies in the world, period," Crews, 49, said today on "Good Morning America." "He’s connected to probably everyone I know in the business ... I did not know this man. I have never had a conversation with him, ever."

Terry Crews publicly named for the first time the high-powered talent agent he claims groped him at an industry party and said he would "not be shamed" about the alleged assault.

"Back in February 2016, I was assaulted by Adam Venit, who is head of the Motion Picture Department at William Morris Endeavor, one of the biggest agencies in the world, period," Crews, 49, said today on "Good Morning America." "He’s connected to probably everyone I know in the business ... I did not know this man. I have never had a conversation with him, ever."

Terry Crews publicly named for the first time the high-powered talent agent he claims groped him at an industry party and said he would "not be shamed" about the alleged assault.

"Back in February 2016, I was assaulted by Adam Venit, who is head of the Motion Picture Department at William Morris Endeavor, one of the biggest agencies in the world, period," Crews, 49, said today on "Good Morning America." "He’s connected to probably everyone I know in the business ... I did not know this man. I have never had a conversation with him, ever."

William Morris Endeavor confirmed to ABC News that "Adam Venit was suspended following the internal investigation into the matter."

good. gotta name those names. so others wont be afraid to do so in the future and hopefully thats once less sexual assaulter you have to deal with.

How powerful must you actually be that you can just walk up to a GROWN ASS MAN (not a little lady you can overpower) and grab his junk because you like what you see?? That is someone with no fear. That is someone who is thoroughly and completely comfortable in his ability to be a wolf unchecked. It's just mindblowing to me._________________Nicolas Caldwell (The Whispers) 1944-2016
Natalie Cole 1950-2016
David Bowie 1947-2016
Glenn Frey 1948-2016
Maurice White 1941-2016
Malik Isaac Taylor aka Phife 1970-2016
Prince 1958-2016

Terry Crews publicly named for the first time the high-powered talent agent he claims groped him at an industry party and said he would "not be shamed" about the alleged assault.

"Back in February 2016, I was assaulted by Adam Venit, who is head of the Motion Picture Department at William Morris Endeavor, one of the biggest agencies in the world, period," Crews, 49, said today on "Good Morning America." "He’s connected to probably everyone I know in the business ... I did not know this man. I have never had a conversation with him, ever."

William Morris Endeavor confirmed to ABC News that "Adam Venit was suspended following the internal investigation into the matter."

good. gotta name those names. so others wont be afraid to do so in the future and hopefully thats once less sexual assaulter you have to deal with.

How powerful must you actually be that you can just walk up to a GROWN ASS MAN (not a little lady you can overpower) and grab his junk because you like what you see?? That is someone with no fear. That is someone who is thoroughly and completely comfortable in his ability to be a wolf unchecked. It's just mindblowing to me.

Not just any grown ass man either. A man so big that nobody ever F's with him for fear they'd be pummeled.

Terry Crews publicly named for the first time the high-powered talent agent he claims groped him at an industry party and said he would "not be shamed" about the alleged assault.

"Back in February 2016, I was assaulted by Adam Venit, who is head of the Motion Picture Department at William Morris Endeavor, one of the biggest agencies in the world, period," Crews, 49, said today on "Good Morning America." "He’s connected to probably everyone I know in the business ... I did not know this man. I have never had a conversation with him, ever."

William Morris Endeavor confirmed to ABC News that "Adam Venit was suspended following the internal investigation into the matter."

good. gotta name those names. so others wont be afraid to do so in the future and hopefully thats once less sexual assaulter you have to deal with.

How powerful must you actually be that you can just walk up to a GROWN ASS MAN (not a little lady you can overpower) and grab his junk because you like what you see?? That is someone with no fear. That is someone who is thoroughly and completely comfortable in his ability to be a wolf unchecked. It's just mindblowing to me.

Terry Crews publicly named for the first time the high-powered talent agent he claims groped him at an industry party and said he would "not be shamed" about the alleged assault.

"Back in February 2016, I was assaulted by Adam Venit, who is head of the Motion Picture Department at William Morris Endeavor, one of the biggest agencies in the world, period," Crews, 49, said today on "Good Morning America." "He’s connected to probably everyone I know in the business ... I did not know this man. I have never had a conversation with him, ever."

William Morris Endeavor confirmed to ABC News that "Adam Venit was suspended following the internal investigation into the matter."

good. gotta name those names. so others wont be afraid to do so in the future and hopefully thats once less sexual assaulter you have to deal with.

How powerful must you actually be that you can just walk up to a GROWN ASS MAN (not a little lady you can overpower) and grab his junk because you like what you see?? That is someone with no fear. That is someone who is thoroughly and completely comfortable in his ability to be a wolf unchecked. It's just mindblowing to me.

Or someone with a little bit of power coked out of his mind.

That's not coke. That's someone with YEARS of being able to do what he wants to whomever he wants. Makes me wonder about all the men he represents. I have questions._________________Nicolas Caldwell (The Whispers) 1944-2016
Natalie Cole 1950-2016
David Bowie 1947-2016
Glenn Frey 1948-2016
Maurice White 1941-2016
Malik Isaac Taylor aka Phife 1970-2016
Prince 1958-2016

Terry Crews publicly named for the first time the high-powered talent agent he claims groped him at an industry party and said he would "not be shamed" about the alleged assault.

"Back in February 2016, I was assaulted by Adam Venit, who is head of the Motion Picture Department at William Morris Endeavor, one of the biggest agencies in the world, period," Crews, 49, said today on "Good Morning America." "He’s connected to probably everyone I know in the business ... I did not know this man. I have never had a conversation with him, ever."

William Morris Endeavor confirmed to ABC News that "Adam Venit was suspended following the internal investigation into the matter."

good. gotta name those names. so others wont be afraid to do so in the future and hopefully thats once less sexual assaulter you have to deal with.

How powerful must you actually be that you can just walk up to a GROWN ASS MAN (not a little lady you can overpower) and grab his junk because you like what you see?? That is someone with no fear. That is someone who is thoroughly and completely comfortable in his ability to be a wolf unchecked. It's just mindblowing to me.

Or someone with a little bit of power coked out of his mind.

It about more than power. There's a serious mental disconnect involved when someone feels that such behavior is acceptable. There are plenty of very powerful people who don't engage in such behavior because they know it to be inherently inappropriate. And there are people of no power whatsoever who attempt to get away with it and think it is acceptable._________________You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames

Terry Crews publicly named for the first time the high-powered talent agent he claims groped him at an industry party and said he would "not be shamed" about the alleged assault.

"Back in February 2016, I was assaulted by Adam Venit, who is head of the Motion Picture Department at William Morris Endeavor, one of the biggest agencies in the world, period," Crews, 49, said today on "Good Morning America." "He’s connected to probably everyone I know in the business ... I did not know this man. I have never had a conversation with him, ever."

William Morris Endeavor confirmed to ABC News that "Adam Venit was suspended following the internal investigation into the matter."

good. gotta name those names. so others wont be afraid to do so in the future and hopefully thats once less sexual assaulter you have to deal with.

How powerful must you actually be that you can just walk up to a GROWN ASS MAN (not a little lady you can overpower) and grab his junk because you like what you see?? That is someone with no fear. That is someone who is thoroughly and completely comfortable in his ability to be a wolf unchecked. It's just mindblowing to me.

Or someone with a little bit of power coked out of his mind.

That's not coke. That's someone with YEARS of being able to do what he wants to whomever he wants. Makes me wonder about all the men he represents. I have questions.

Terry Crews publicly named for the first time the high-powered talent agent he claims groped him at an industry party and said he would "not be shamed" about the alleged assault.

"Back in February 2016, I was assaulted by Adam Venit, who is head of the Motion Picture Department at William Morris Endeavor, one of the biggest agencies in the world, period," Crews, 49, said today on "Good Morning America." "He’s connected to probably everyone I know in the business ... I did not know this man. I have never had a conversation with him, ever."

William Morris Endeavor confirmed to ABC News that "Adam Venit was suspended following the internal investigation into the matter."

good. gotta name those names. so others wont be afraid to do so in the future and hopefully thats once less sexual assaulter you have to deal with.

How powerful must you actually be that you can just walk up to a GROWN ASS MAN (not a little lady you can overpower) and grab his junk because you like what you see?? That is someone with no fear. That is someone who is thoroughly and completely comfortable in his ability to be a wolf unchecked. It's just mindblowing to me.

Or someone with a little bit of power coked out of his mind.

That's not coke. That's someone with YEARS of being able to do what he wants to whomever he wants. Makes me wonder about all the men he represents. I have questions.

say it aint so Rocko. everyday. another one goes on the list. and whats with these grown a... dudes messing around with teens. you have a plethora of beautiful fully grown women that would jump at a chance to be with you and you say to your body guard...naww. tonight lets bring a little kid into the mix?

Rose, who has long hosted an interview show on PBS and also co-anchors “CBS This Morning,” is accused of making sexual advances toward multiple women — some of whom worked on his show. He is also accused of groping women and walking in front of them while naked.

^^^^ Another man in a power slot abusing his position. Damn, Weinstein opened Pandora's Box. Who's next?

Quote:

The incidents date from the late 1990s to 2011, and the women ranged in age from 21 to 37 at the time of the incidents they describe.

Venit had to be on something to grope Terry Crews.

he was. its called Extreme Power. What is more powerful than a well off, well connected, man carrying around all that power + white privilege. Name someone more powerful than that in America. I know I can't.

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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:08 am Post subject:

splashmtn wrote:

jodeke wrote:

^^^^ Another man in a power slot abusing his position. Damn, Weinstein opened Pandora's Box. Who's next?

Quote:

The incidents date from the late 1990s to 2011, and the women ranged in age from 21 to 37 at the time of the incidents they describe.

Venit had to be on something to grope Terry Crews.

he was. its called Extreme Power. What is more powerful than a well off, well connected, man carrying around all that power + white privilege. Name someone more powerful than that in America. I know I can't.

All the well off, well connected, man carrying around all that power + white privilege in the world don't mean dookey. If he groped this dude I think he was on someething._________________Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

^^^^ Another man in a power slot abusing his position. Damn, Weinstein opened Pandora's Box. Who's next?

Quote:

The incidents date from the late 1990s to 2011, and the women ranged in age from 21 to 37 at the time of the incidents they describe.

Venit had to be on something to grope Terry Crews.

he was. its called Extreme Power. What is more powerful than a well off, well connected, man carrying around all that power + white privilege. Name someone more powerful than that in America. I know I can't.

All the well off, well connected, man carrying around all that power + white privilege in the world don't mean dookey. If he groped this dude I think he was on someething.