Neither is going into into it without realizing that we've faced two teams with a winning record on the year and lost to both of them....

This is a ridiculous arguement. That's like saying the Ravens losses to weak oppenents is relevant. Or that the fact they only beat the browns by 6 points is relevant to this week.

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and despite your insistence that everything that happens in the past and is automatically meaningless, this team has had mixed results against teams that run this sort of defense.

Everything that happens in the distant past. It's like with Indy. People always saying he had trouble with New Englands defense, when in reality its been pretty 50 50 and he's had his great games, and his bad games. It isn't dependent on any past variable but how he plays and what gameplan they had that week, injuries etc.

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We saw it earlier on the year in Dallas, in 2 out of 3 meetings with the Jets last year, in the second game with Dolphins, and with meetings with the Ravens over the past few years. This is a legitimate challenge and one we aren't assured of getting by in.

Have we struggled with pressure? Absolutely. But lets not bring the Dolphins game into considering the injuries we had. The OL dealt with 2 excellent pass rushers on the edge last week exceptionally well. Are they as strong as Baltimore? No. But given their performance I think they'll keep Tommy mostly upright.

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If you want to call me pessimistic for that, by all means. But you would be ignoring the fact that they match up very well against us and teams with similarities(including, those older Ravens teams) have done had some success against us.

They have won one game against us. One. We're 5-1 is it? That's not some success. That's alot of failure.

All season people have discounted the tremendous job the Texans have done in the trenches. Saying the Pats Oline will be fine against the Ravens simply because they showed poorly against Houston is silly. The Texans have an all-star lineup in the LB core, solid Dlineman, and went out and signed top talent in the defensive backfield. Their defense is lightyears better than ours. Their oline is damn good, too. There's a big difference between the run-first mentality and the one we employ. On top of all that, Arian Foster is the best RB in the league, hands down. The guy is smoother than anyone I've seen in years and makes himself small / skinny to dart through two would-be tacklers better than any RB I've ever seen.

Don't make the mistake of thinking our O or D lines can repeat what the Texans did.

I wasn't terribly worried about Denver for one reason: pressure up the middle. They don't have it, and Brady's ability to shred them was a direct result of that. The Ravens can bring that pressure, and up the middle is what turns Brady into a skittish, happy-feet, shell of himself.

I am very encouraged by our showing against The Almighty Broncos and truly believe this team can't be stopped if they come out firing like that again (for two more games, please!)

They have won one game against us. One. We're 5-1 is it? That's not some success. That's alot of failure.

As NaleJ said, it's 6-1. Are you really using this to support your argument when you just got done saying that everything in the distant past is meaningless? We've played the Ravens twice in the past two years and had a hard time against them both times. That's far more relevant than how we did against the Fighting Kyle Boller's.

Which one is it?

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I am very encouraged by our showing against The Almighty Broncos and truly believe this team can't be stopped if they come out firing like that again (for two more games, please!)

That's basically where I am, despite my crabbiness with people trying to limit trying to limit the scope of this discussion with flawed logic and contradictions. The scoreboard never really proves much in games like that after a certain point, but this team looks like it's peaking on both sides at the right time. Some of the adjustments we've made on defense(McCourty to safety) really seem to be paying off. It's a whole different ball game against Baltimore too. Not only do they match up better against us, but they're not coming off an emotional high like Denver was. It's very tough for a team to pull a big upset like they did the previous week and totally flip the script for a road game. I don't think Baltimore is in the same position here; we're going to get their best shot. I'm not trying to take anything away from the way we played against Denver, but I'm not sure you can say the Broncos gave us the same.

As NaleJ said, it's 6-1. Are you really using this to support your argument when you just got done saying that everything in the distant past is meaningless? We've played the Ravens twice in the past two years and had a hard time against them both times. That's far more relevant than how we did against the Fighting Kyle Boller's.

Which one is it?

That's basically where I am, despite my crabbiness with people trying to limit trying to limit the scope of this discussion with flawed logic and contradictions.

Don't be ridiculous. Those past games don't matter at all. I am just saying that even by your standards We haven't 'traditionally' lost to them.

If you want to debate matchups by all means. Let's talk matchups. But lets not be all doom and gloom.

I love talking matchups, player-wise and systematically. I'm looking over some ravens tape as we speak actually to get a better idea but I am liking what I am seeing with how they matchup with us overall.

Yea, I couldn't agree more. This is going to be a slugfest.
It sucks that the Pats are doing their part. Being humble, saying only positive things about the Ravens
and then Skip comes in and ***** it all up for us. They don't need material for Harbaugh to post on their locker room to hype them up.

I'm willing to bet that they both play. They wouldn't be practicing if they weren't. It's not good to hear though and it defiantly causes some pause.

Brady will obviously play, but it's not good to hear about anyone missing practice leading up to a do or die situation from a preparation standpoint. But if there's anyone who it won't phase, it will be Brady.

I think the LBs covering the TEs is gonna be what wins it for us. They can't send the house every play, and I just can't see them covering our TEs on hot-intermediate routes. Ed Reed could probably stick with them no problem, but I'm sure brady won't be looking his way too much anyway.

I think the LBs covering the TEs is gonna be what wins it for us. They can't send the house every play, and I just can't see them covering our TEs on hot-intermediate routes. Ed Reed could probably stick with them no problem, but I'm sure brady won't be looking his way too much anyway.

I could see us using the TEs to chip Suggs on practically every play. That should help neutralize their pass rush.

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