wow, well after reading all of these, I am going to pick myself up a like apple chipset mobo, a core 2 duo cpu with 8mb l2 shared and build a hackintosh. I can t justify spending $3000 + on a mac pro, but i CAN justify $800 on a decent hackintosh intel, especially now, with the efi boot hack. Its like a real mac, but its not a real mac. FTMFW! (except it will be ugly unless i can find a old g3-g4-g5 case to cram it into, I think i saw some powermac g3s for $20 on craigslist, perfect case to start with and another old mac to cram into a old pc case as a file server or something. I still love my hachintosh dual G4, but hey, i guess it would be nice to have a machine to run intel only games. As for everything altivec, this machine does the trick.