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The only thing worse than reading garbage about the Pentagon on 9/11 is meeting people IRL that tell me how wrong I am about what "really" happened. You see that big hole in the side of the building? Yeah, that was my office. I was in another part of the building that morning, most of my friends were not.

I was a Navy reservist assigned to the Navy Command Center up until Jan of 2001 at which time I transferred out to a unit in Norfolk. I knew a few of those who died in those NCC spaces. The reserve CO of the unit, a long-time Navy shipmate of mine, had gone to the Pentagon that morning knowing the situation in NYC was going to need all hands on deck. He was headed to the NCC offices when the plane hit and was part of the initial groups who were effecting rescue operations. This is just one of a number of examples of why CIT and PfT and all the other moron-douche-bag-idiot-filled tree house CT clubs who persist in this garbage 15 years hence will always draw my ire.

__________________"There's this thing about being so "open minded" your brain falls out". --Unknown

Not exactly being sticklers for attention to detail I suspect many CT's missed the fact these are all pictures originally released in 2011 but which had been accidentally deleted from the FBI web site sometime between then and now.

Anyone fairly familiar with the subject should have recognized most, if not all of the pictures.

__________________So I'm going to tell you what the facts are, and the facts are the facts, but then we know the truth. That always overcomes facts.

If it hadn't be so obvious that no large passenger plane hit the Pentagon, this conclusive research would not have been triggered:

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I have to say that you are incorrect. Not only was B-757 wreckage identified, inside and outside the Pentagon, but many eyewitnesses saw American 11 strike the Pentagon and that includes air traffic controllers and even a C-130 aircrew flying overheard at the time. I should also mention that radar tracked American 11 to the Pentagon and I have also provided the altitude profile data on American 11 just before it struck the Pentagon.

Did I mention that American Airlines and the Boeing Aircraft Co. provided the conversion formulas for the FDR that pertained ONLY to the airframe of American 11?

I have to say that you are incorrect. Not only was B-757 wreckage identified, inside and outside the Pentagon, but many eyewitnesses saw American 11 strike the Pentagon and that includes air traffic controllers and even a C-130 aircrew flying overheard at the time. I should also mention that radar tracked American 11 to the Pentagon and I have also provided the altitude profile data on American 11 just before it struck the Pentagon.

Did I mention that American Airlines and the Boeing Aircraft Co. provided the conversion formulas for the FDR that pertained ONLY to the airframe of American 11?

It was AA 77.

__________________"Remember that the goal of conspiracy rhetoric is to bog down the discussion, not to make progress toward a solution" Jay Windley

"How many leaves on the seventh branch of the fourth tree?" is meaningless when you are in the wrong forest: ozeco41

That's why truthers are still truthers in 2017: For more than 15 years they have committed most fiercly to ignoring the plain and obvious hard facts and instead have remained fascinated by the vaguest of fantasies.

The video in #4 shows the immediate alleged impact area, before the collapse that happened half an hour or so later. The absence of dozens of tons of plane remains is evidence for the absence of a crashed passenger jet. What's there is a burning container, a bit of fire and a lot of smoke coming from the roof.

A world of stupid.

__________________Stundie - Avoided like the plaque, its a scottish turn of phrase.

I cross over the 14th Street Bridge every day headed to my gub'mint job in DC. In the early 80s an Air Florida 737 crashed after taking off from then-National Airport. It hit the bridge before ending up in the river.

In keeping with CE's logic, I don't see any evidence of that crash as I look over into the placid waters of the Potomac. I guess it never happened.

I understand the acknowledgement of my being a Government employee will taint my credibility, but so what. Its not like the Truthers have *any* credibility left anyway - assuming they ever had any to begin with.

__________________"There's this thing about being so "open minded" your brain falls out". --Unknown

American 77 flight profile data. It's amazing that despite all of the overwhelming evidence, the no-airplane-crashed-at-the-Pentagon conspiracy theorist cannot come to grip with reality that American 77 crashed at the Pentagon. The data also proves that American 77 was not flown under remote control.

If you have faith in something that you have spent a lot of time defending, it is hard to let go.

__________________I have no idea what you're trying to say, but I'm still pretty sure that you're wrong. -Akhenaten
I sometimes think the Bible was inspired by Satan to make God look bad. And then it backfired on Him when He underestimated the stupidity of religious ideologues. -MontagK505

A good night to point that out with regards to the US regime. Guess it just got again a bit easier, this time for a different chunk of citizens.

I might agree with you, if you didn't hold on to nonsense like a teddy bear.

The US regime does indeed have faults. But people who cling for dear life to ******** myths hold no promise.

__________________I have no idea what you're trying to say, but I'm still pretty sure that you're wrong. -Akhenaten
I sometimes think the Bible was inspired by Satan to make God look bad. And then it backfired on Him when He underestimated the stupidity of religious ideologues. -MontagK505

I cook and eat turkey for Thanksgiving and Christmas
The turkey is store bought and has been plucked and beheaded
The bag which contains the turkey shows no evidence of feathers or a head and inside the Turkey's hollow innards yields no feathers or a head

It must stand to reason turkeys are featherless headless birds.

__________________I am 100% confident all psychics and mediums are frauds.
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“That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.” -Christopher Hitchens-