Let Fisher take them all! They all suck for the most part. I'd be ecstatic not to have to see the product Alan Lowry the special teams coach comes up with. Marc Mariani & Rob Bironas make that guys job so easy, but he's fudged up coverage for years, wish he'd disappear and take Donnie Nickey too. Fred Graves is another one that I'll even help pack. The only coaches I'd pray we keep would be Mike Munchak, Jim Washburn & Marcus Robertson. The rest are average at best, and you'd never know they're gone. As for a new group coming in not being able to work with the roster til later, that's an issue, but not one big enough to change my feelings towards the group we have now. Time for change! If this also means losing Vince, then so be it. He's played his heart out, and deserves better.

I believe that when they took away the "wedge" that Alan Lowry went insane and hasn't figured it out what to do yet. it's been more about people being in the right spot at the right time ever since.....unless it one of those big gainers.

Vince won't go; he wouldn't last two weeks anywhere else. Heck, he hasn't even learned the Titan kindygarden play book. How in the world is he going to learn a more complicated one? Besides, here he is protected by Grandpa Bud. I think it's going to depend more on the relations between Bud and Fisher than between Fisher and Vince. If Fisher can't convince Bud(or his grandson) that Vince is a cancer, then he will be gone after this season and he won't care what happens to the organization. jmo

I don't know how good or bad Dinger is. How do we know how much control Dinger has over the offense? He's had some good plays it just seems like we don't run them enough. I'd be willing to give Dinger a chance to see if it was Dinger's calling, or Fish handicapping him.

As far as Vince not knowing the playbook??? He's the QB. When has he effed up a play??

He's thrown 3 picks the whole season. 1 was a last second hail mary and the other 2 were a result of disguised coverages. Please don't make speculations

Vince won't go; he wouldn't last two weeks anywhere else. Heck, he hasn't even learned the Titan kindygarden play book. How in the world is he going to learn a more complicated one?

Whoa stop right there. I believe Fisher is not utilizing what Vince is and thats a play maker. They are calling plays out there that is sub par with what this offense is capable of. Him haven't learned the whole play book is a stretch since he had a top 5 QB rating. If you let Vince go I am positive some another team will pick him up real quick and would do 100XXX better because they are not running up the middle every play.

About the whole playbook and VY not getting it thing; this to me is just one of those situations where we as people who don't play football or any fast paced sport have no clue just how hard it is to run an NFL offense. When I was listening to Frank Wycheck the other morning he was talking about the fundamentals of an NFL offense and he was using terms I have never heard before and they are basic things to them. I think that if we all got under center for 1 snap in an NFL game, all the talk about how VY having to take a water-downed playbook would cease

No doubt the looming labor issues throw a big wrench in a lot of planning for next year. I think that is among the reasons Bud is biding his time with Fisher (in addition to the fact that he'd really rather keep him if possible).

Whoa stop right there. I believe Fisher is not utilizing what Vince is and thats a play maker. They are calling plays out there that is sub par with what this offense is capable of. Him haven't learned the whole play book is a stretch since he had a top 5 QB rating. If you let Vince go I am positive some another team will pick him up real quick and would do 100XXX better because they are not running up the middle every play.

You're kidding, right? VY picked up quickly by another team and do 100x better? Where?

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