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Before Time Cube, Ray advocated the sport of marbles. He authored a book titled Mr. Marbles - Marbles for Everyone,[10] and got the city council of St. Petersburg, Florida to proclaim a "Marbles Week" in the 1970s. In 1987, this became a controversial attempt to establish a million dollar marble tournament inside a huge round structure and establish a philosophical "Order of the Sphere".[11]

Before Time Cube, Ray advocated the sport of marbles. He authored a book titled Mr. Marbles - Marbles for Everyone,[10] and got the city council of St. Petersburg, Florida to proclaim a "Marbles Week" in the 1970s. In 1987, this became a controversial attempt to establish a million dollar marble tournament inside a huge round structure and establish a philosophical "Order of the Sphere".[11]

Before Time Cube, Ray advocated the sport of marbles. He authored a book titled Mr. Marbles - Marbles for Everyone,[10] and got the city council of St. Petersburg, Florida to proclaim a "Marbles Week" in the 1970s. In 1987, this became a controversial attempt to establish a million dollar marble tournament inside a huge round structure and establish a philosophical "Order of the Sphere".[11]

What...the....whaz...?

Clearly, he lost his marbles before creating the Time Cube theory and website.

Wait... is the time cube guy telling people to murder teachers? Or am I just interpreting his words too literally?

Also in terms of the tortoise - sea turtle- star turtle debate that's what the controversy is; not that the flat earth is supported on the back of some shelled reptile vs a round earth. Also you forget that the turtle doesn't have to fly or swim, it can be standing on another turtle. Also all the satellite images just edit out the turtle and distort the image so it looks round, haven't you ever heard of photo shop?

He's a superhumanly strong soccer-playing romance novelist possessed of the uncanny powers of an insect. She's a beautiful African-American doctor with her own daytime radio talk show. They fight crime!

It's totally valid to claim that the earth is motionless and is the center of the universe.

Of course, you can make the same claim about any other object in the universe, too, but still.

So your saying its the geocentric who aren't moving but think everything revolves around them?:P

He's a superhumanly strong soccer-playing romance novelist possessed of the uncanny powers of an insect. She's a beautiful African-American doctor with her own daytime radio talk show. They fight crime!

gotta love it when a specific group of Christians try to disprove science. these guys must be so insecure to make shit up like this,\.

You see that bolded part right there? That's really important. In the same way that not all Muslims are fanatics, not all Christians are absurdly stupid.

Exactly:

"Does God need to have created the universe/multiverse to exist? As a liberal Christian, I'm comfortable with a God who does not work miracles but exists as a moral and mental force or perhaps memetic concept. Creating the universe would be a pretty big miracle, so I don't see believing in that as crucial to faith."

gotta love it when a specific group of Christians try to disprove science. these guys must be so insecure to make shit up like this,\.

You see that bolded part right there? That's really important. In the same way that not all Muslims are fanatics, not all Christians are absurdly stupid.

Exactly:

"Does God need to have created the universe/multiverse to exist? As a liberal Christian, I'm comfortable with a God who does not work miracles but exists as a moral and mental force or perhaps memetic concept. Creating the universe would be a pretty big miracle, so I don't see believing in that as crucial to faith."

If only there were more religious people like that.

There are probably a fair few, they just don't get up on pedestals and shout at all the people down below. Not only that, but any opposing groups are more than happy to take that stereotype and try to apply it to anyone even vaguely related.

That's the thing about moderates and reasonable people; they don't get all worked up and waste money on broadcasting their ideas and organizing protests to shout:

WHAT DO WE WANT?A reasonable debate with all the relevant facts presented for both sides!
AND WHEN DO WE WANT IT?Whenever both parties have some free time, maybe a three-day weekend if they don't have any vacation plans!

If the Bible has taught me anything, it's that huge disaster that hurt and kill lots of innocent people are the greatest proof of the Christian God. He was a total jerk.

Somebody find the one story where Satan and God have a bet over if a guy will lose his faith, and God screws over the guy constantly to prove the guy won't lose faith no matter what. It had something about his wife and kids getting a plague I think.

If the Bible has taught me anything, it's that huge disaster that hurt and kill lots of innocent people are the greatest proof of the Christian God. He was a total jerk.

Somebody find the one story where Satan and God have a bet over if a guy will lose his faith, and God screws over the guy constantly to prove the guy won't lose faith no matter what. It had something about his wife and kids getting a plague I think.

If the Bible has taught me anything, it's that huge disaster that hurt and kill lots of innocent people are the greatest proof of the Christian God. He was a total jerk.

Somebody find the one story where Satan and God have a bet over if a guy will lose his faith, and God screws over the guy constantly to prove the guy won't lose faith no matter what. It had something about his wife and kids getting a plague I think.

The motivation boils down to 'the Bible cannot be imperfect. If one part of the Bible is wrong, the whole thing is wrong.'

This was actually a big part of why I wound up rejecting Christianity. If their cosmology was all wrong, why should I believe in any of the rest of it? If you reject the specifics that are absurd, Jonah and Noah and so on, you're left with Deism which just seems pointless to me.

IIRC the geocentric model isn't even really from the Bible, the early Christians, being part of the Greek world, adopted a lot of Greek philosophy/science/myths, particularly Aristotelian. The actual Biblical cosmology is even weirder.

I think the people I'm referring to don't get them for themselves or their children because they find out that vaccines carry dead cells of the actual disease, and panic.

Go yell at them for me. This depends entirely on the vaccine, and, if you're working with whole cells, they'll generally be live (although attenuated severely). Vaccine design is a set of beautiful tradeoffs.

The MMR vaccine, which is one of the most common issues in the anti-vaccine fiasco, is one of these attenuated vaccines (well, three of them, but hey!)

It's not live cells as far as I know, but live virus which has been genetically engineered to have a weakened infection vector I think? Possibly not genetically engineered - I imagine somewhere out there they just throw it in bleach or something.

you will have no choice but to put yourself completely in His trust and care for everything else in your life.

I better not read this book because then I will have no other choice than to convert to Catholicism!

It's like Scientology, but worse! D:

Don't insult Catholics like that.

These people are Christ Scientists, they think that Ayn Rand is the Virgin Mary incarnate 'pon this earth to warn us afore the Rapture coom.

Meanwhile, there are thousands upon thousands of accounts detailing how priests and monks furthered the quest for knowledge, often at the cost of their lives, and Pope John Paul II spent decades pondering the theological implications of abiogenesis.