HOWEVER, Glen Mason was getting Minnesota to a bowl game every year and they were very competetive under him and they fire him for Tim Brewster? They get what they deserve in a way. I recall fans being unhappy that the Gophers were not going to the next level with Mason......well welcome to the next level!

Mason performed so well that Minny forgot their place on the food chain. I'm not really comparing him to Sparky, but his ouster does remind me of when the Tigers fired Sparky for a couple of teams that were around .500, only to watch them subeseuqently become the worst team in baseball for a few years.

It's the old saw: be careful what you ask for. Minny's administration is getting exactly what it deserves. Their fans and players, though, deserve better.

You can't type this *and* be dissatisfied with Michigan under the second half of Carr's career. After all, your argument seems to follow that we were winning 9 games a year and didn't have any right to want better.

Minnesota was dissatisfied with its plateau and wanted better for itself. They decided they'd like to make a gamble and risk the destruction of their above-average program for a chance to become great. It'll be a long, long process, but I don't fault them for continuously trying.

In fact, I feel for them because Kill has a solid resume, says all the right things, and seems to me one poorly timed chronic illness presentation away from right the Gopher ship.

"I have long thought that anyone who does not regularly - or ever - gaze up and see the wonder and glory of a dark night sky filled with countless stars loses a sense of their fundamental connectedness to the universe."

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is never get involved in a land war in Asia - but only slightly less well-known is this: Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line!

I think Hoke has changed the tide on the rivalry. Hell people in Ohio are starting to believe him. Never in a million years I would have thought that. Selling Michigan jerseys is a good start.

"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

I laughed several times reading this...my favorite was the tatoo comment

What a game! I can't say enough about all the great coaching these guys are getting. Watching our defense strip the ball over and over again in games is so much fun. I would say that the turnovers we create will help us win a couple games we shouldn't on the rest of the schedule.

I want to know how many hours Brian puts into TWIS. I would imagine that visiting all these message boards just to find a couple "money quotes" is quite time-consuming; then he has to add his witty remarks, which are so fluid that they seem off-the-cuff, but undoubtedly also take a good amount of time to perfect.

"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

... I'm kinda over TWIS. At first I thought it was funny, but then I started feeling like it was quite petty of me to take joy in other people's suffering. I'm to the point where all I want is for Michigan to win. I don't care what happens to other teams, because if Michigan wins all their games, it frankly doesn't matter.

Besides, I can't help but feel that half the comments on those boards are trolls trying to further upset people, and that's such a vindictive thing to do, it could only be perpetrated by people who really have little joy in life.

Do Something. If it works, do more of it. If it doesn't, do something else.

That second Buckeye fan sounds almost exactly like me after the 08 OSU game when I said I never want to see Nick Sheridan start another game at Michigan again. But this is long overdue karma for that fanbase.

Florida State...I loved seeing them lose for the 3rd straight time. I've always hated the Seminoles. And I said all September it was insane to rank them #5 in the nation. They have not beat a legit top 10 team in several years and have been bad to medicore in the crappy ACC conference during that time as well. I never understood why they were getting so much hype.

Can't laugh at Minnesota. Losing to a crappy ass Purdue team has to sting (it stung for us in 08 and 09). That's a team that should be rewarded with some more happiness, except when they play Michigan.

That second Northwestern fan, VERY harsh. When you get that angry and start sounding like a Buckeye fan, that's about as low as you can go.

"wolverinehistorian, for someone so dedicated and seemingly level headed, his grudges are monumental." ~ triangle_M