Give us a Razar review when you can<br><br>Keep in mind that the Pilot mouse is just the basic rat variety - 2 buttons and a scroll wheel thats all I need <-- I never had to install drivers either for any mouse that I had before they just where plug and play. I guess since I don't need the 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6 button mice with multiple scroll wheels I would never need to install drivers <br><br>

I use a Microsoft mouse, basic 2 buttons and clickable scrollwheel - but without the MS drivers! It's a nice big ergonomic mouse - I don't like weeny mice. I'm using SteerMouse to enhance the options for the mouse, like scrollwheel-click as back-button in browsers, scrollwheel-click as Hide App in other apps (until WindowShade came back in from the cold).<br><br>- padmavyuha<br><br>[color:purple]A lopsided man runs best along the little side-hills of success<br>- Frank Moore Colby</font color=purple>

I've been using a Logitech MX Revolution for quite a while now and love it. It is wireless though. <br><br>I also had extreme difficulties with their drivers - which is to say that I couldn't install them. Turns out they won't recognize the mouse if you had ever used Fast User Switching (which I do use). I ended up getting a relatively cheap app called SteerMouse which works fantastic with most any mouse I've plugged in. Kensington mouse drivers suffer from the same problem - Fast User Switching = no workie.<br><br>At the office I use a Microsoft mouse (can't remember, but it's one of the cheaper wired models), and it works very well. From what I've heard though, Microsoft (as well as Dell) actually use a Logitech mouse as the "base" and just add features and styling to it.<br><br>

I currently don't use any drivers with my logitech mouse ...interesting note about fast user switching. I don't use that feature, luckily. I'm sure it has to do with the mouse software being installed in the user library instead of the main library. You could probably remedy it by either moving some files or installing it again in the new account. Not something I'd care to do though. <br><br>zweisoft<br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>I'm sure it has to do with the mouse software being installed in the user library instead of the main library. You could probably remedy it by either moving some files or installing it again in the new account.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Unfortunately, that doesn't work. The driver simply will not recognize any mouse once Fast User Switching is used. Even turning off F.U.S. and restarting in one account only will not work. It's a widely known problem, yet Logitech, Kensington or Apple have not addressed it.<br><br>

Yes, I have 10.5 installed with the Razor. Doesn't seem to be any issues with it. Works like it did the first time I installed the driver. I have a Matias Tactile Pro keyboard also. For the "finest" keyboard/mouse Mac experience. <br><br>

_________________________Well, until they make it right, I hope they never sleep at night. They better make some changes and do it soon. -Things Goin' On/Lynyrd Skynyrd

Well, I got my mouse today! It's a lot different feeling than my logitech. Your hand sits further back and your fingers don't curl down as much. It's plenty comfortable, just different. It'll take me a little bit to get used to it, but I did a quick test with Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory and I found myself to be pretty darn accurate with only 5-min of experience with the mouse. I did kinda freak out thinking the mouse was overly jerky when trying to make small movements, but I found that it was because I had the acceleration setting to high. It was starting to accelerate when the mouse was barely moving and causing the cursor to jump around far too much for me. It's under control now <br><br>Here are a couple screenshots of the more interesting pref tabs. I don't have any of the buttons set to do anything fancy yet, though.<br><br><br><br><br><br>Here is a screenshot of the "on the fly" sensitivity in action. You activate it by holding down whichever mouse button you assigned it to and scrolling up and down on the mouse wheel to raise/lower the sensitivity. It's essentially the same as going into the prefs and moving the slider up and down. Pretty nice feature!<br><br><br><br>The only thing that feels a bit odd to me is the side buttons. The location is fine for the ones next to your thumb ...but the two-way button has two little protruding braille-like bumps (one on each end) that are very noticeable. They almost feel like a piece of unfinished plastic that wasn't sanded off even though they are actually smooth/rounded. I'll get used to it fairly quickly, but it was quite odd feeling it under my thumb when barely touching the mouse. <br><br>After the first hour of use my quick review is most definitely positive! ...the way the mouse is layed out I find myself pushing the buttons a lot softer than on my logitech. It's also bit lighter than my logitech, which I like. It's definitely a twitch mouse (use your fingers/wrist to move it) ...not one where you rest your whole hand on it and use your arm.<br><br>I'm very happy I gave it a shot. As long as the drivers stay good and don't conflict with anything in future OS X updates I'll be pleased as punch. I just hope this thing lasts better than my last two mice. It's got a 2 year warrantee on it and I think I'll actually keep the box/receipt to make sure I get a good two years out of it If it's reliable, I may have just become a Razer fan for life!<br><br>Now I'm off to test the whole fast user switching thing Giz brought up...<br><br>zweisoft<br>

It seems to work with FUS ...I did notice the first time I switched over and set the buttons to different functions it didn't take ...but after logging out/in it cleared up and switching between the two accounts worked fine after that. All the buttons were working. <br><br>zweisoft<br>

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