conebeckham wrote:Agreed. I hope the Tibetan Community in exile can successfully transition to a true democratic process. HH Gyalwa Karmapa has made it clear that he is not interested in a politcal role, and I think HHDl's recent position statements clearly indicate that, even if there is a 15th DL, he will likely not be primarily a political figure.

I think it is best for us that HH. Dalailama continues just as a spiritual teacher in both this and the next lives. For example, when he comes to my region, large portion of his time is taken by negotiations and meetings with local politians and so no Dharma teachings are given, just a general public talk. Of course this is also due to our karma, because HH. Dalailama does give teachings, when he comes elsewhere, but his position and occupations are also a condition adding to this. Another thing is how this will influence situation of Tibet. Lets hope that health of His Holiness remains good and his life stable.

"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."

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"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."

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Well, it won't mean much, regardless. No one outside of the mainland PRC takes their Panchen Lama seriously, right? HDDL is a much bigger figure on the world stage--it may actually backfire on them, in a spectacular way. Who knows? Not I. I will watch.

"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."

May any merit generated by on-line discussionBe dedicated to the Ultimate Benefit of All Sentient Beings.

We saw it already before 1959 happening and also after 1959 in the west.Karma = karmaSometimes the seeds start to bloom

I realy hope so that the expensive lesson(s) of the exodus will lead to more activities within the Lha Kang than in the government, the place where monks belong.Therefore H.H. the Gyalwa Karmapa 17, tells us the truth not to be busy with worldly affairs (counting for monks and non - monks) and that is acting according the vision of Buddha Shakyamuni, who did exchange the role of a prince for something better.

All in all do i admire H.H. the Gyalwa Karmapa 17 for his high degree of Wisdom. He knows what is better and His Holiness does it better!

That new breeze do we all need in the world after 1959 and we did learn about "our" historical lessons very well, i hope so..........

Best wishesKY

THOUGH A MAN BE LEARNEDIF HE DOES NOT APPLY HIS KNOWLEDGEHE RESEMBLES THE BLIND MANWHO WITH A LAMP IN THE HAND CANNOT SEE THE ROAD