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got a question...ive been growing my fruits here for a while..but i can never seem to get a huge mushie...i think the biggest fruits ive ever got were like 3 inches tall...and to me, that seems small...buit i see these pictures of where people are growing there fruits and getting like 8 to 9 inch fruits..im not just reffering to letting your fruits over mature,...but generally i think most of my mushrooms could be bigger..but they are not...i realize the sooner you pick the mushroom closer to when the veil rips ..that is when the mushroom is most potent..but im reffering to size...

Is it more in the genetics?

more in the air flow?

more in the environment?

more in the substrate or water supply?

im sure it could be each one of these when it all comes down to it,

Now recently i moved to casing's and i really like it a lot better then just fruiting PF style...

so is it all in the depth of the substrate,..in the casing layer..

hit me up and help me out....im really learning a lot from all of you guys...ive got a grow log that is almost complete...thanks so much for the help in advance...

For my set up:ive got a terrarium, with a drip shield,perlite in the bottom..with a flourescent light on a timer(14 hours of light, 10 hours of darkness)

ive got a cool mist humidifer set up( see pic) that ive got an a seprate timer, ive got it set to run where there is water build up on the inside of the tube...which i think is enough to provide adequate water into the airi also just added a hole in the side of the terrarium to let air enter and exit the bottom section of terrarium..it has a micron filter covering it.

i use dystilled water in the cool mist

currently all of my casings are BRF/vermiculite , i recently got a all amercian pressure cooker..and ive got some WBS that is looking really good..that i innoc a week ago...doing awesome by the way

Well, I've never seen really big shrooms with BRF, either as a cake or a casing.

Some kind of automated setup with a lot of air exchange is definately a major factor for your babies.

Now that you got a pressure cooker, go with grains all the time. Case grain with at least 2 inches of substrate. Aiming for 4 or even 5 inches of substrate isn't futile. This way, you could easily get 6-7 inches fruits.

But if you want some monsters, no other choices than working with bulk. I recently found that straw gives some bigger mushrooms.

These are GTs grown on only 2 inches of straw. Definately bigger than the average grain casing but it could easily be even bigger with more bulk.

I've grown huge shroomies with BRF and verm. The biggest one I grew was about 9-10 inches, with a 3 and a half inch diameter cap. I was growing the Equador strain on cakes, in a clear plastic container. It was the first flush, so there was lots of moisture, plus, I provided moisture via cool mist humidifier. I never opened the lid to fan / give air echange, but I think that running the humidifier pushed the CO2 out the bottom vent. It was grown at room temp.

Given these conditions, I would say that the size of the shrooms depends on the strain, available moisture, gas exchange, and just plain chance.

Sometimes you'll get a bunch of smaller shrooms, or like one or two big shrooms. As the shrooms mature they pull a lot of water out of the cakes, and tht prevents any others from pinning and growing. Therefore, if your cake has a lot of pins, they'll develop into many smaller shrooms, whereas if you have fewer pins, they'll get all the moisture and grow really big.

It's all in the depth of substrate also type of subsrate with a nice thick casing laying for the to grasp i believe in 1/4" casing for every inch of substrate ive grown them well above 70 grams on regular basis largest one at 90grams here some my older post with pics monster in the patch -- Big Fruits

The biggest fruit I ever got was off of a BRF with the equador strain. When they first start growin, fan fan fan. When they are just starting their first flush I fan at least 5-6 times a day for the first 2-3 days of the flush.

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Mushmaster, when you say "deep substrate = big fruits" are you referring to the amount of substrate in a casing? If so, much substrate should my friend use when casing 2 half pint jars using vermiculite? Thanks!

I've gotta go with the deep sub theory. Sure it's not gonna be in every case. Big shrooms can come off of cake's and small casings but take a look at pictures of casings made of like 1 quart of grain compared to one made of 5 quarts or more. The larger casings will consistently have bigger fruits.

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I've gotten hugh fruit from BRF.I find that water,air,and temp.is what makes the differents.Also the strain makes a differents.I have to say B+ has grown the biggest by far than others.My biggest was 40 grams wet.