The ladies masters athletes from the SMTFA competing at the Flash Athletic Meet in Oct at the Bishan Stadium.

9/30/2014

Teo Ser Luck apologised on Facebook

This is reported in the main media. ‘Mr Teo also apologized on Facebook
to the YMCA: “The protestors were going after me but it affected the
children and the event . For this I feel sorry and would apologise to
YMCA and the children for this inconvenience caused because of my
presence.”’ And in response to Roy Ngerng’s offer to apologise to the
children, Ser Luck said it was a step forward. Then he added that Roy
had spoilt the day for the children and , ‘For sure you have to
apologise and more!’

Ser Luck did not explain what is the meaning of ‘more’. Is he saying
apology must also explain? But Roy has already explained and not
accepted. He had dismissed Roy’s explanation that he ‘didn’t know what
was going on the stage’. So the best thing for Roy to do is to go and
ask Ser Luck what is ‘more’ and what is enough or can be accepted. If
Roy were to do the same and apologise on his Facebook, I think this way
sure cannot.

It was gracious for Ser Luck to apologise to YMCA. It was also good for
him to clarify that the protestors were there protesting to him and not
to heckle the children. But in doing so they did frighten some of them
and spoilt their day.

For those boys and girls screaming that the protestors were there to
heckle the children, I think Ser Luck being the main target of their
protest, is telling exactly what it was all about. Would this put an end
to the ‘heckle’ accusation?

The Americans would say the affected children were collateral damages as
they were not the target or the issue. Still it is good for Roy and Hui
Hui to make an apology for interrupting their performance. But this
part is very difficult. How? Put up a one page apology in the newspaper,
as putting up on their Facebook would not likely to be accepted. I
can’t advise them on this. And the best person is Ser Luck. Go ask Ser
Luck what does he want in the apology before he can accept it, or what
is the best way to apologise.

As for the parents of the children, it has been reported that they declined to meet Roy. What’s next?

Those Hongkies can really protest.Compared to Hong Kong, what is Hong Lim Square?A small little protest in Hong Lim Park.A little bit of noise.And all the PAP MPs and Ministers kpkb in the internet and Straits Times.

Yes or No? - PAP Ministers Are Champion Complainers.

I guess we will now have to increase the pay of our PAP Millionaires to compensate them for their "sacrifices" at managing the unruly Singaporean population.And Teo Ser Luck gets an extra month bonus for his hazardous job at Hong Lim Park.

一山不容二虎，such incident can be avoided if only one is competent enough and can foresee, to know the consequence and whether to allow such protest to be carried out on this same day,and take precaution on the safety and security procedure.,unless such protest is unexpected or can be carried without getting a permit.Just wonder why YMCA did not get security personnel for crowd control which I thought its a must for such event with such crowd.

Just feel that such incident only make me feel very shameful as a Sinkie.This incident only paint a bad picture of the one in charge of the park,YMCA and sadly,TSL.Ah Roy and HHH have nothing to lose even if they apologize.Too much a price to pay,to ask for apology.

Roy and Han should have back off when they understand that another event is taking place involving kids. This will gain points and improve their social image. Unfortunately, they let such a golden opportunity to slip pass and did damage instead.

‘Ms Han Hui Hui explained to The Real Singapore that shortly before the event, she was told by both the Police and NParks that she should cancel her event or postpone it despite the fact that she had gotten her police approvals and permits to hold the protest at Hong Lim Park on this day and time weeks earlier.’A simple and annoying question, if the Police and NParks wanted Han Hui Hui to cancel her event or postpone to another day, why approved it in the first place? Was it not easier not to approve the event and let Han Hui Hui apply for another date? Then we would not have this unpleasant event happening. Or did someone panic at the last hour knowing that things can go wrong?

WHY SINGAPOREANS ARE ADVISED TO STAY AWAY FROM PROTEST SITES FROM ONE MINISTRY ( MFA ) BUT ANOTHER MINISTRY ( MEWR ) DID THE REVERSE IN HLP AND ALLOW THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO GO HLP AND WORST STILL SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN?

Can somebody in the government body care to EXPLAIN TO BAFFLED SINGAPOREANS WHY SUCH TWO OPPOSITE AND CONTRASTING POSITION TAKEN?

Pls make it clear once and for all whether to avoid or " cheong to protest sites, worst still transport innocent, special needs children to such places.

Must tell sinkies once and for all

"AI HUM" OR "MAI HUM"?

This is VERY CONFUSING!!!

What if injuries happen or lives threatened?

Whose fault?

Whose responsibilities?

If sinkies never heed advise and get injured in HK protest sites, whose fault? The protesters or sinkies?

If children ferried down to HLP get "frigthened" by loud headers, whose fault?

Has logic been turned on its head by some PAPER GENERALS?

If YEW agree, pls KEE CHIU?

Hope those responsible are not acting like "MOM-MY BOY" hiding under the table or his mother's skirt?

"Travel Notice for Hong Kong [29 September 2014]Protestors gathered outside Hong Kong’s Government Headquarters over the weekend of 27-28 September 2014. The protests could be spreading to other parts of the city. There are disruptions to traffic and public transport services, and closures of some schools and businesses. Singaporeans should avoid the crowd and demonstrations.Singaporeans travelling to or residing in Hong Kong should monitor the local news and developments closely and heed the instructions of local authorities. They should take all necessary precautions for personal safety, including purchasing comprehensive travel and medical insurance.In addition, Singaporeans travelling to or residing in Hong Kong are encouraged to eRegister with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs at https://eregister.mfa.gov.sg to facilitate contact should the need arise. Singaporeans who are in need of consular assistance while in Hong Kong may contact our Consulate-General or the 24-hour MFA Duty Office at:Consulate-General of the Republic of Singapore – China (Hong Kong SAR)Address: Units 901-2, 9th FloorAdmiralty Centre Tower 118 Harcourt Road, Hong KongTel: +(852) 2527-2212Telefax: +(852) 2861-3595Email: singcg_hkg@sgmfa.gov.sgHomepage: http://www.mfa.gov.sg/hongkongMinistry of Foreign Affairs Duty Office (24-hours)Tel: 6379 8800, 6379 8855Fax: 6476-7302Email: mfa_duty_officer@mfa.gov.sg "

I'm surprise that Red Bean has stood in silent letting the special needs being called IQ low and all those cunt words, I really hope your future generation will all be special needs, you really deserve it.

That's why we are different, cause we can't see through our anger and fears, for all those that did not bother to read up and has no idea of what special needs stand for, they are sceptical to noise not all of them but many of them.And they can IQ higher than theses stupid monkeys here bad mouthing them.

People, there are more than one way to skin a cat, she was given a choice to move a distant away and I really dun see that million people standing there waiting to hear what was to be said, please idiots, have some compassion, for heaven sake.

If the authority doesn't see any problem having special needs children at a protest site or approving both events in the same venue and overlapping time, why don't they ferry the kids now to HK protest sites and later claim the kids are frightened by the protesters?

Can this logic hold water?

Are sinkies paying way way too much for some people who does not seem to have IQ beyond 80?

All I heard was the heckling of PAP supporters; "We love our CPF"And those chants scared the children.I also saw a photo of Teo Ser Luck taking a selfie with some kids.I didn't see a photo of Teo Ser Luck trying to tell his PAP supporters to stop scaring the children with their "We love our CPF" chants.

The idiot baboon's are the ones that are bad mounting the special needs and side tracking, the issue is cpf, nothing to do with their IQ's, of special needs, so there's no need to say anything bad about them.

IBs, if YEW can't understand simple English or set on twisting issues all over the place to try wriggle out, it simply confirmed YEW are cmi or your stand and argument cannot hold water.

Now 2 issues should be addressed:

1) CPF - retirement fund and medical fund. When is NOT considered raining day? Why is so much money being held back in medisave even for hospitalisation and surgery even at very old age? If at VERY OLD AGE, for critical surgery and necessary hospital, medisave still cannot touch to cover the bills, then what is the purpose of medisave? Just to enrich the insurers? Why is medisave being held back for oldies to pay hospitalisation and surgery bills?

2) Why put special needs children in harm's way?If ministries such as MFA think it is not "ADVISABLE" to travel to countries with protests,

" Singaporeans travelling to or residing in Hong Kong should monitor the local news and developments closely and heed the instructions of local authorities. They should take all necessary precautions for personal safety, including purchasing comprehensive travel and medical insurance."

" In addition, Singaporeans travelling to or residing in Hong Kong are encouraged to eRegister with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs at https://eregister.mfa.gov.sg to facilitate contact should the need arise ........ " )

Why are the special needs children being ferried to a protest site?

Why approve both events at same venue, same time when a protest site is:

1) considered hazardous as implied in MFA's travel notice to HK and therefore protest sites are " to be avoided"?

2) MFA advised that " necessary precautions for personal safety, including purchasing comprehensive travel and medical insurance." should be taken?

3) situations warrant close monitoring and the need to " eRegister with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs "?

So similarly why are special needs children FERRIED to a protest site in HLP?

Why are both events approved at same time, same venue?

If past events held together in HLP did not cause problems, what were those events? Are they "PROTEST" in nature? What KIND of scholars' logic to conclude that when past events are held together in HLP did not cause any issue, THEN IT CAN BE CONCLUDED THAT holding an event with a protest is "SAFE"? Worst still the event involved "special needs children"? Are these the type of logic scholars have?

Pls try address above issues and not make ANYMORE ad hominen arguments here such as those in some of above comment posts.

Sinkies are losing more and more confidence, trust and hope if IBs like YEW in the above several anon comments come here to make ad hominen remarks and constantly shoot off the tangent.

Now nobody here is commenting on the special needs children. Anon 10.35 pm and 10.40 pm obviously is/ are the one(s) insulting them. Who are the monster(s) insulting the special needs?

Rb, mb there are several groups of special needs in sinkieland ..........

Perhaps YEW can help to define them properly say special needs CATEGORY A, B, C ........ X, Y, Z and avoid some people muddying special needs children with say special needs IBs, special needs ivory towers residents etc ........

There's only one word for you......gullible, they apologise using the special needs as front and dumb ass like you fell for it, again the cause is lost with ppl like you.

Special needs, category???, up to now no one can categorise them as each and every child is different, that's why the word, "special needs". Please read up, you'll sounding more stupid by the minute.

CPF and special needs are totally different issue, that minister should have gotten up from his butt and did something about it, what's the point of any apology, using the special needs its just totally not right, absurd excuse to win votes.

Both Hongkee students and Roy/HHH crowd same. Too little research, no substance in their protests. Sporeans should be better than Hongkees. Longer in democracy since 1965. Hongkee just learning wat/how democracy. CPF is no issue. "Return our CPF" has no basis. Our CPF is still there and well-guarded against corruption and misuse. Find other new issues pls.

Both Hongkee students and Roy/HHH crowd same. Too little research, no substance in their protests. Sporeans should be better than Hongkees. Longer in democracy since 1965. Hongkee just learning wat/how democracy. CPF is no issue. "Return our CPF" has no basis. Our CPF is still there and well-guarded against corruption and misuse. Find other new issues pls.

Did Anonymous say:"... have the balls to put down your name and add, please?". Now we know Anonymous must be female or got castrated. Ouch! real painful, man! Dun follow Roy blindly; ready and check out all his numbers ... he just asked many questions, no answers. Because he just plain DON'T KNOW. Why follow a blind and stupid man? Argue to support him some more, for wrong stats and questions? He chicken out so fast when sued ... what a coward! Maybe didn;'t do NS, can't blame him. U even more stupid! ask me why pls.

1, "The Commissioner reserves the right to cancel any approval or disallow any event or activity at any time without prior notice in the event of any breach of or non-compliance with ..."

https://www.nparks.gov.sg/cms/docs/speakers_terms_n_conditions.pdfIs the man in video NParks' Commissioner, Dr LEONG Chee Chiew? Cos only he can say what is allowed or disallowed in Nparks. http://www.mnd.gov.sg/urbansustainability/2011/images/speakers/chiew.jpg

2. It is pretty odd that when NParks is on the verge of revoking the license (or simply to tell her that her designated area to use for the protest), they needed to bring along that many police officers.

She has all rights to know who these officers are, does she not?

3. Additionally, I believe that was the Investigating Officer's staff card. A search warrant is a paper signed by the courts and I do not see it.

4. HHH did give her word that she would accept revocation of her license or the official change of designated spots for the protest on 2 terms:a. They are to email her to inform her officially.b. That they show proof that it is against the law to use the area outside of YMCA's designated area.

5. "YMCA did not change any plans." Really? No one noticed they changed their timing from 10am to 4pm and that is why suddenly NParks had suddenly appeared to HHH to inform her where she can not use?

6. However, I agree that they had heckled YMCA's event, I just do not agree that the D.S. children had been traumatized in any way.

Nparks was prepared with police etc but not prepared with questions pertaining to their regulations. Isn't this really odd?

The happenings in the Ang Mo Kio Town Council are outrageous. I am not going to elaborate as the details are everywhere. The similarities be...

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