Strong interest from a lot of teams.....Come on Holland! Lets Do it! $5.5M is the max! 3 years! Get it Done!

DAN WHATEVER YOUR f****** NAME IS CLEAR OR CLEARLY GET THE f*** OUT OF THIS TEAM BACK GO f****** LEARN TO PLAY MORON I PERSONALY DON'T GIVE A s*** THAT YR LEG IS f***ET UP, PLEASE LIIVE. ANF BABCOCK PLEASE GET READ OF OUR QUINESSSSSSYYYYY HOLLAND YOU JUST HIT THE JUCK f****** POTT!

Vancouver seems to be another likely destination. if they can do something with the cap space they will have by moving Loungo (combined with better goaltending from Scneider), they should be Cup favorites

I dont believe captaincy is about being the better player, its about experience and leadership.

True. I should have elaborated better. Doan has the experience, but Z has been groomed for years including watching Nick and Stevie as mentors. I don't think there's any doubt he can handle being captain and it seems like Babcock and most of his teammates have said as much.

As far as the better player, I agree that it doesn't always have to be a deciding factor. However, with everything Z has accomplished, it certainly helps his case. Besides, ultimately I don't think it would be very Red Wing like to hand over the captaincy to a brand new player when the current team has plenty of options that have served the organization for years.

I dont believe captaincy is about being the better player, its about experience and leadership.

Shannahan and Cheilos were both experienced captains with there former clubs and wore "A's". Zetterberg was groomed here and will be here for a while, if we were to land Doan it wouldn't be a long contract.

So much of what's going on doesn't make sense to me. Like singing Tootoo, or signing Sammy when either Nyquist or Brunner was supposed to play in the top six this year, or giving Sammy a NTC, or not having much of a backup plan if we didn't land Suter, or not signing Quincey when it became apparent that we couldn't get Suter (Wideman, Garrison, or Carle) and we only have 5 defensemen under contract, or not signing a top six forward (the same problem we've had for the last three years), or staking our remaining offensive hopes on a guy (Doan) who's most likely to remain with his current (and only team), or not signing Semin now that he's really the only guaranteed top six that we could sign without having to give up assets for, or finally staking next season on trades which are more likely to not happen than pan out in our favor.

Really the only thing that makes any sense to me was signing Gustavsson. Ugh.

Note: That it doesn't make sense to me is no reason to believe that nothing good can come of it. I'm just saying I really have no idea what the plan was this offseason based on the moves we've made/haven't made. I'm in the dark.

So much of what's going on doesn't make sense to me. Like singing Tootoo, or signing Sammy when either Nyquist or Brunner was supposed to play in the top six this year, or giving Sammy a NTC, or not having much of a backup plan if we didn't land Suter, or not signing Quincey when it became apparent that we couldn't get Suter (Wideman, Garrison, or Carle) and we only have 5 defensemen under contract, or not signing a top six forward (the same problem we've had for the last three years), or not signing Semin now that he's really the only guaranteed top six that we could sign without having to give up assets for, or finally staking next season on trades which are more likely to not happen than pan out in our favor.

Really the only thing that makes any sense to me was signing Gustavsson. Ugh.

Yeah, almost forgot about the NTCs. We now have 4 guys with NTC, absolutely ridiculous. He's throwing these out like hotcakes without really thinking about it.

Yeah, almost forgot about the NTCs. We now have 4 guys with NTC, absolutely ridiculous. He's throwing these out like hotcakes without really thinking about it.

Like I edited above, I'm not saying they don't have a plan, or that we're totally screwed. I just don't understand what the plan is, or what their vision of the future is. Unless they decided that the only major moves worth making were for Parise and Suter, and if they couldn't land them then the next best option was to plug some holes and sit on the money until some future date.

GMRwings: "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage. For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada. There's some US states where it's 16 as well.