It's not a supposed election, but yes, Labor is going to lose by a significant margin. That's a pity. No matter how badly the party is governing, the alternative is going to be a lot worse in social terms. Under the guise of the supposed trickle-down effect, the conservatives will resume featherbedding the high income strata at the expense of the people on low incomes. Abbott will make Howard's policies, such as his tax scale changes and "workchoice" look almost benign.

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. - Lucius Annaeus Seneca (attrib.)

Heard an interesting take on it this morning on the Kochies Angels segment on Sunrise.

Crean called Gillard out expecting to have any spill called for the next day which would have them crunch the numbers and work the phones overnight. Gillard beat them to the punch by having the spill on Thursday giving them no time to get a candidate the numbers.

Rudd was never going to challenge and was true to his word that HE would not challenge.

Fringedweller wrote:It's not a supposed election, but yes, Labor is going to lose by a significant margin. That's a pity. No matter how badly the party is governing, the alternative is going to be a lot worse in social terms. Under the guise of the supposed trickle-down effect, the conservatives will resume featherbedding the high income strata at the expense of the people on low incomes. Abbott will make Howard's policies, such as his tax scale changes and "workchoice" look almost benign.

What I meant by 'supposed election' was worded badly ... I meant that it is supposedly in September but can be actually be brought forward if so needed.

I hate Tony Abbott, I hate Julia Gillard, i hate the greens, i hate politics full stop. This country is going to hell regardless of the next election and who wins it. Politics in 2013 would be better ran by monkeys than either party right now. They are a bunch of dumb idiots. Rudd should have challenged yesterday and he was probably going to win it too if some reports are to be believed. Anyway i wish the lot of them would be shot into the sun to die. I know that sounds harsh but these people are pathetic. All of them.

greysfan wrote:I hate Tony Abbott, I hate Julia Gillard, i hate the greens, i hate politics full stop. This country is going to hell regardless of the next election and who wins it.

It's all relative. Compared to other countries we have wise and enlightened leaders. Look at the clerics that lead Islamic theocracies, and you'll be happy with the pollies we have, especially if you are a woman. For instance: