Nah, too much effort to be expended. I view ties as write-offs. Similar to how I liken dress shirts to undershirts-you wear them and when they start to yellow, you retire them. That's why I never spend more than, say $40 on a tie. The few [RLPL ties] I have spent $50 on I've given away without wearing them once. Ed is waiting for all of my contract collared shirts to yellow

Just speaking truth. I will have to look into these magical ties. I particularly like the fact that they have a matte finish but are still optically pleasing/intriguing. Thx.
But the Drakes ties I own are slim (guessing 7cm) so I have to wear them with the smaller blade showing to add some width.

Re: Drake's - I can't do the 7cm width, either, and I am frustrated that the vast majority of their ties are so narrow. I e-mailed Drake's about it a while back, and asked if they had any 8-9cm ties that they were hiding, and I received a response that stated that because narrow ties were popular at present, they were concentrating on 7cm for the time being.

Yes, I know that they do have some wider ties in the "long" section of their website, but they are all too long for me!

Yep, Ed definitely needs to post more silky goodness on teh Panta website. Come on, Ed!
Re: Drake's - I can't do the 7cm width, either, and I am frustrated that the vast majority of their ties are so narrow. I e-mailed Drake's about it a while back, and asked if they had any 8-9cm ties that they were hiding, and I received a response that stated that because narrow ties were popular at present, they were concentrating on 7cm for the time being.
Yes, I know that they do have some wider ties in the "long" section of their website, but they are all too long for me!

I'm pretty much sold out of most stuff but new stuff will be up shortly. Re your PM, those were never put up for sale, if anyone interests you let me know and I'll get back to you.