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Monday, October 24, 2011

Marines vs Zetas on video

"Estamos en un enfrentamiento con gente de Los Zetas" - "We are engaged against Zetas" is what the Marine recording the confusion and noise of combat says early into the first of three videos that records a firefight against Zeta gunmen.

According to the Milenio Semanal weekly newsmagazine published Sunday, October 16, the squad of Marines engaged in battle in the dusk against a Zeta group belongs to Mexico's 7th Marine Infantry Batallion. The action took place in the vicinity of San Fernando, Tamaulipas, approximately 100 miles from the Texas border.

The exact date of the action is unknown but is probably recent. The casualties on either side are not mentioned.

These guys are the real heros in Mexico. At least these guys are shooting at people that are shooting back not like those Iraq war videos that all they are shooting at is empty buildings and civilians.

THESE ARE SOME BRAVE MOTHAS CAUSE ANY ARMY SOLDIERS WOULD BE CRYING FOR AIR SUPPORT LOOK ANOTHER WAR THE U.S.A MADE HAPPEN AND FINANCED AND THEY DONT ALLOW DOG FIGHTING AND COCK FIGHTING BUT THEY LOVE TO SEE HUMANS KILL EACH OTHER

"Helicopters,we don't need no stinking helicopters"guided missiles,tanks,bunker busters,50 men to 1,10 blackhawks.Mano a mano, nah mean hermano.Keep these young bucks safe,they tryin to do a job.Fuck em up Marinos.

Hey Senor Private first class. It's called having BALLS. With all do respect to the American Military. They could take a few lesson from the Mexican Marina. They aren't fighting peasants with machine guns like in Iraq. They are fighting well equipped criminals with weapons form American AR 15, 50 caliber , etc. So your rank doesn't mean shit to me. You would not have the huevos rancheros to go toe to toe with these cartels.

Balls and bullets don't make for a successful battle. And where is their night vision and their Apaches? We gave Mexico all sorts of gear a few years back! Giving anything to Calderon seemingly is like giving it to Chapo himself. If they were serious about finding him, it could be done in a week (or less). We helped Columbia find Pablo by driving around with a scanner in a car, and listening in on his son. Led us right to that fat bastard. How can they not find a guy who had the military guarding his wedding? How can they not find a guy who has to pay off everyone? Bin Laden, found and dealt with. Quaddafi, found and dealt with. List goes on. I seriously don't get it at all. Calderon probably has him on his favorites list on his iPhone. Obama tries to use Bin Ladens capture as a leg up in the election, imagine what it would do to Calderon's campaign if he brings in Guzman. (He probably wont for fear that he would talk and tell everyone how corrupt things really are)

brave Mex marines....and the US private was just giving his humble opinion...wasn't too harsh on the Mexs....but he might be right..they need to be better equipped and had more air support...one of the Mex marines mentioned at some point they were getting some...true or not

There is videos out now showing the Marinas thankful for the training they have received from the Americans that served in Iraq, they have learned allot as far as close in combat and convoy combat where there are many men and many trucks involved, the Marinas say the training has really helped them... Sure its well known that they are very brave but they must also be smart or the end up brave and dead... Much respect to ALL combat troops!

This is Mexico. They can't just snap their fingers and black-hawks appear magically on the horizon. The nearest black hawk might be 500 miles away. By the time it got there, the crooks would be long gone. Only the Americans try to swat mosquito's with a sledge hammer.

As far as catching Chapo and Calderon's campaign, mexican presidents are limited to a single six-year term

Bin Laden found and dealt?? How many years after, may I ask??? Is there proof bin laden is dead? Or you just assume he is because your government tells you. And as you know the government never lies..... Don't believe what your told. For your information the American government let El Chapos wife enter and then leave the USA. So get your facts straight.

@4:30AM - Actually, I think there was air support near by. At 5:00 of the second video, you can hear the distinct sounds of a mini-gun. And at 4:05 of the last video, one of the Marines requests a "helicopter" via radio.

At ease Private. As a matter of fact get your ass in the front leaning rest and beat your face until I get tired. For being disrespectful and IGNORANT.

Mexico is a comparatively poor country - get it? Do you understand that fact? It's a fact. It's reality. They don't have air assets to cover every mission and every part of the nation.

They don't have the same type of military capabilities as the USA. Very few nations in the world do and certainly not poorer developing nations such as Mexico.

They are doing the best they can with the forces and equipment that they have.

Do not try to speak for or represent America . You don't have the intelligence or experience to do so. Mexican troops are allied troops to America, especially the Marines. As a whole, they are not considered "the enemy".

Again, they do the best they can with what they have. Disparaging remarks to the contrary against the forces of one of our neighbors simply shows ignorance, lack of experience in dealing with other nations forces, lack of respect and immaturity.

@ 2:14, Your comment is really unnecessary. All the guy said was they should try and get them better equipment, hence the fact that U.S funds they receive should get them better equipment to get the job done right. Have you ever worked on a car and not have the right tool?

@11:41 AM You are so funny. What money are you talking about? The 9% of money that's been sent in 6 years ain't shit. Your estimate of a week to catch el Chapo is hilarious. How long did it take the USA to kill Osama? On a 1 on 1 battle the US military cant hang. They get so shook with some untrained Iraqy people. All they can do is call for air support. when they start hearing the bullets and people start getting hit they realize that its real and that the shooting simulators didnt simulate getting hit with bullets.

Haha how much do you guys wanna bet those Marines got killed in the dozens?????But thats when they bring in the helicopter to pick up their bodied Duh! Its Mexico. Haha you guys are all ignorant praising some mortal fools that die just as easy as the sicarios Hahaha!!.Zetas Nunca mueren grabencenlo en la cabesa!,Zetas Never die,have that in your mind at all times!!,y si no me creen los espero aki en Nuevo Laredo,Tamaulipas,And if you guys dont believe me come over to Nuevo Laredo,Tamaulipas.Zetas #1

WHat we are also not seeing is the fact that Intelligence from the DEA,FBI & CIA have a sustantial roll in these operations. With out their participation in these combat theaters would like looking for a needle in a hay stack.

Mexican Soldiers & Marines are very thankful for their cooperation in the execution of these operations. Choppers or not. Al the men in the video are angels of hope, and like such they too have families who expect them back at home,some day.

Wow, I can't believe the level of ignorance on the part of all these so called Mexican patriots coming all out of their face in these comments. That's all you're good for isn't it? In your eyes these soldiers have more balls than Americans simply because they have no air cover? Because you have lived it huh? You've been in the thick of it huh, chump. Yall ain't build like that homies. First of all Americans have a long tradition of serving in the military AND seeing plenty of action so don't even compare your rag-tag army or your level of bravity to ours because it doesn't even come close. No disrespect to Mexico's military they are there to their job. It's you couch potatoes with your flabby ass that I have a problem with.

We all want a Mexico that functions like the country it should be-far better than it is now. So, let's support and appreciate the positive efforts from all involved as they work separately and together to eradicate the violent, greedy assholes who make daily life in parts of Mexico excessively difficult. We will all be better off for it.

Perhaps you don't know that the mexicans do not have any high tech goggles or apache helicopters.

We used to do it in the same way. We didn’t have night vision equipment or helicopters with thermal imaging cameras to make the job easier. In fact, most of the time we didn't have air support and nobody made fun of us.

i'm sure you don't know what it feels like when moving forward in a dark battlefield with trees, bushes and a whole buch of assholes willing to die for something using their soviet rifles.

Why don't you just shut the fuck up and show some respect for these young soldiers and their fallen friends.

@8:46 PM. You tell them brother! We didn't have shit! The only high tech gear we had was the Starlight Scope, but that piece of shit was to big and to heavy to hump it thru the fucking jungle. Whenever we got inserted into a hot ao (area of operation)we had to travel light and if contact was made we had to move always forward just like these Mexican Marines were doing and backing up was not an option. These Mexican Marines are HEROES! WELCOME HOME BROTHER! I was in country with the 82nd 42 yrs ago! but every fucking second of my combat tour is still in my mind and soul! Once again WELCOME HOME!!!

@5:37 pm Eres una lacra pendjo. As long as there is idiots with the same IQ as a piece of shit. There will always be Zetas Ratonezzzzz. Idiot Respeta La Marina they are fighting for your family, and kids. But hopefully you dont have kids. The world does not need more idiots like you around. You sub human idiot. Now go fight for you Cartel, Your bosses dont care about you. They can replace you like that...Did i mention your garbage.

Everyone who hates Zetas know where Most are at but are too SCARED to come and find out, I invite you ALL(and yes that includes Pussy Rednecks who supposibly hunt Mexicans by the border,whatever your LITTTLE groups are called)to come and live in Nuevo Laredo,Tamaulipas.

9:42 and Mr clean haha. Mr clean seriously?haha anybody could say stuff on the internet and like he said hes in nuevo laredo and theres nothing but zetas there so why don't you go there and i know you hate thezetas but come on saying stuff on here wont hurt them so go ito there ad say something to them atleast or go join la marina if your so tough, which you're probably not since you havent yet joined it.

I come here with some bit of military experience including time in the Marines. I don't have all the details but their command and control seemed non existent and then poor cover and concealment. Both are basic. My concern is for the marines safety.

You gotta give respect where respect is due. Seems like 90% of the ones criticizing these marines are either people who have never experienced real combat for themselves of an inexperienced high-speed wanna be PFC cherry. And I bet if they would shit and piss themselves if it would of been then in this situation. Former 82nd Infantryman here. I see y'all up there fellow Airborne Vets. Take care.

@ 9:44 AM What unit did you served with in the 82nd. Right here ex- paratrooper with the 504 TH PIR aka THE BLACKSHEEP. See you at LZ Holland. Do you know where' s at! AIRBORNE!!!!!!!!!!! 1968-1984 Viet Nam Vet.

So all I hear is ppl talking shit about the zetas..but that's all they do talk shit on the computer Cuz they need BALLS to confront the zetas.ONLY BRAVE MEN LIKE THOSE MARINES FIGHT THEM,NOT THE CDS CDG AND ALL THESE CARTELS WHO CLAIM SUPREMACY AGAINST THE ZETAS.KEEP TALKING LIKE IT OR NOT TGEY KEEP EXPANDING ALL OVER MEXICO N THE USA AS WELL.OH AND TO ALL YA CDS CDG FOLLOWERS,IN NVO LAREDO IS DOMINATED BY THE ZETAS THERE THOUSANDS N THOUSANDS YA. VATOS SAY YA KILL ZETAS JAJA DONT MAKE ME LAUGH COME TO LAREDO N SAY THAT SHIT U GET KILLED MOTHERFUCKER.THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ZETAS N THE CHAPOS IS THAT DA ZETAS HAVE BALLS TO GO IN ENEMY TERRITORY N RISK THEIR LIFES IN ORDER TO TAKE OVER A PLAZA,THE CHAPOS JAJA WELL THERE PUSSYS WHO WON'T COME TO LAREDO N TRY TO FIGHT AGAINST THE ZETAS.JAJA TGEY TRIED ONCE N FAILED MISERABLY EVEN WITH THE HELP OF A LAREDOAN CALLED LA BARBIE. I REMEMBER THOSE YEARD 05,06 JAJA CHAPOS THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA TAKE CONTROL OVER NVO LAREDO JAJA CHAPO LEARNED HIS LESSONS NOT TO SEND STUPID DURANGESES,SINALOENSES TO LAREDO......YOU WILL GET UR ASS KILLED!!THE ZETAS ARE EXPANDING WHILE YA VATOS CRY N TALJ SHIT OVER THE NET THEY KEEP DOING THERE THING.AND TO U SHITTALKERS ABOUT THE ZETAS,JOIN UR ARMY OR MARINES IF U FEEL SO PATRIOT TO YOUR COUNTRY N U HATE ZETAS.BUT U NEED THE "BALLS" N "COURAGE " AND THATS SOMETHING YOU MISSING. ZETAS NEVE DIE ....THERE A CANCER THAT WILL NEVER BE CURED

@ 11:44 AM Hey!! What are you doing in the fucking computer! Are not you suppose to be be in the streets fighting the Marinos? Or maybe there is to many Mexican Marines in the streets and you are afraid to go out? So you decided to stay at home and kiss zezas ass on the internet so they don't cut your head off for being such a yellow ass coward? And in case you did not know there is hundreds of Sinaloans in Nuevo Laredo and that is the reason why your mamma el cuarenta got his ass out of the city b'cause he was fucking scare. On the other hand I live close to el Cuartel Macario Zamora, and have never seen el 40 in any engagment against the marines. PUSSIEZZZZZZ.

It is so strange how the mexicans beg for money and then want to talk bad about american involvement in world situations liberating whole continents. The mexican revolution would have failed without american money and firepower....Colonel Tracey Richardson commanded an american battalion under pancho villia and brought the machine gun and military training to northern mexico or the revolution would have been lost. General Zavala said it was better to die on his feet than live on your knees.......... now all of mexico prefer to live on there knees......chupa le catels

The USA did all that for their own agenda, mostly because they were afraid of European people. They wanted this continent to break off tie's with Europe because they were scared of Europe having a strong hold in the America's and possibly attacking them. Don't come on here and try to make the USA look like the hero. We know what kind of history the USA has and has been doing the same shit to this date. Fucking shit up in other country's and then playing the victim back home.

@11:44 Que paso en Luvianos y Michoacan cuando La Familia les partio la madre a los Zetas? Ahhaha you ignorant fool every cartel has taken heavy shots at Zetas read about Luvianos and how La Familia Michoacana dragged the Zetas out of there and no federal police were used only Zeta vs Familia Michoacana

all i really have to add to this is that all of you are complete and utter morons..not that I wanted to begin this by throwing out insults as cliche as that is it certainly hasn't stopped the majority of you from doin such and missing the point. Your pride and experiences keep you all from realizing that the U.S. has no interest in stopping the global "war on drugs" much less mexico's fight for independence from its' current narco based municipalities. Doesnt matter what your rank is in the U.S. armed forces, you are still a tool of the government that will tell you only what you need to know to further your cooperation and your training instills in you an attitude which I mean to correct today. You serving, while it receives my respect, doesn't afford you any special rights over anyone in the U.S...we are all equal people in this country. My choice not to enlist, contrary to popular belief on this blog, does not show a lack of responsibility to my country or balls, but rather telling the boys in D.C. that this country is still one run by the people and for the people...not by the white house and certainly not by the military complex or defense industry.

To the americans commenting: the marines do have night vision and air support. the marines in the video were on patrol and they never go farther than 300km(200mi) from a naval base so helicopters usually are around to help. Due to legal bindings the military cant use support like artillery or gunships(rockets and missiles not machine guns and auto-cannons). As for the training, Mexican and US soldiers/marines are equal when it comes to basic training. The US has better equipment and much more experience fighting insurgencies than us, but the quality of the training is the same. When it comes to the body count, the cartels have lost 10s of thousands of footsoldiers and most of their top rankers, the military has lost less than 300 for the army and less than 20 for the marines(around 1/3 of the marines who died were executed after being kidnapped when off duty). The reason for the violence is actually in a great part the governments fault for eliminating or arresting the top rankers of these cartels, forcing them to put the less experienced, younger members in charge, ascending them in some cases several ranks. These less experienced leaders thought and still think its a good idea to kidnap people they "suspect" know something or who look like someone they are meaning to kill and ask very little questions as to how it should be done. The murder rate rises every year and will probably do so for another year at least before it plateaus like it did in colombia decades ago. Thank you to all of you for the respect and admiration. Hopefully one day we will be complete allys in a conflict somewhere sometime.

A Mexican citizen with aspirations of a military career in his country's armed forces.