To be fair, TaShawn is evaluating Joe pro and con on his personality. It's not just deficiencies but they are part of a complete package.

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To be fair, Walter is evaluating TaShawns evaluation of the dictatorial vs non-dictatorial nature of the GM business. While I was evaluating TaShawns evaluating the actual information provided C-note before C-note was sent to Denver. C-note had most obviouosly already done some evaluation because he suggested he'd prefer to land in Denver. The Denver staff had already completed their evaluations and thought a Iverson for C-note plus gratuities was a fair trade. Iverson evaluated whether or not he should waive his contracts no-trade clause (something I'm wondering wasn't also in C-notes contract) and then came to the conclusion he would do it, if he could wear C-notes jersey to offend the fan base and start a rumour that C-note may actually have passed on (like Paul McCartneys walking barefoot on he Abbey Road album cover). C-note then evaluated Iverson's wearing #1 and was throroughly befuddled as thought he owned a copyright on all Pistons #1 jerseys and wondered why his marketing manager would allow such a breach (he was evaluating terminating the manager). Meantime, in Dyess's evaluation the whole thing stunk the room up and he elected to re-value his future, he told Denver that he wanted out. Denver then re-evaluated the whole process and decided they were happier than small hogs rolling around in used disposable baby diapers. This is somewhere near where our story begins as by now TaShawn was completely peeved because he read how shocked C-note appeared over Iverson wearing the Pistons #1 (not realizing C-note was evaluating possible legal fees involved in suing Joe Dumars for allowing Iverson to breach his copyrighting and wondering if signed away those rights when agreed to waive his no-trade clause as he hadn't really evaluated those papers very well in his excitement to get back to Denver).

I was gonna start a new thread but this title sounded pretty on-point.

I'm giving Rod Stuckey until the end of the pre-season until I start my "move Stuckey to the bench" campaign. I wanna see if dude has added ANYTHING to his game over the summer. I didn't catch the Heat game last night but by reading some posts on this forum and articles from the fish-wraps, Stuck didn't impress.

On paper, Gordon & Rip starting with Will and Rod backing them up is starting to look pretty good. With Ben's outside shooting, Will taking it to the rack would be a good change-'o-pace. Same can be said for Rip and Rodney.

I was at the game last night, and Stuckey was disappointing. Im glad that we have someone with such a high energy level in Bynum because he makes the game fun to watch. In the case that it was the first time the team played another team this season, I can understand that no one had a perfect game. Ben Gordon had 6 turn-overs and Jonas will most likely get suspended for fighting. All in all, I think there will be some improvement with team chemistry after the first few games. Austin Daye had a pretty good game too

I don't think this can all be put on Stuckey. The fact is, he is being forced to play out of position, and then is getting criticized because he's not great at it.

Stuckey can be a very good 2, or a very mediocre 1. The problem is we have two 2's in Rip and Gordon. IMHO, best case scenario, we trade Rip for value (and Tay for a bunch of tiny bags), start Gordon, and have Stuckey as backup 2. Stuckey should thrive in that situation.

I love this lineup (might be a lottery lineup this year, but watch out next year): Bynum, Gordon, Daye, CV, anyone other than what we have. W/ Stucky and the other rooks off the bench.

I just posted this in the game thread, but here's my 2 cents. Stuckey is a young player who was made to learn a new position by Pistons. He's also on his 3rd coach in his 3rd NBA season. I'd give him some time to develop and get hang of things. If he's still struggling 25-30 games into the season, then I'll start worrying.

I just posted this in the game thread, but here's my 2 cents. Stuckey is a young player who was made to learn a new position by Pistons. He's also on his 3rd coach in his 3rd NBA season. I'd give him some time to develop and get hang of things. If he's still struggling 25-30 games into the season, then I'll start worrying.

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I understand what you're saying, here's what I keep asking myself, are we trying to force a square peg into a round hole by making Stuckey a PG? There are so many players who have come through this league and failed because some coach or GM kept playing them out of position. Last year Minn began to turn the corner a little bit and have something that resembled success and it came as a result of them scrapping the idea that Randy Foye was a PG (where he was doing OK) and they moved him to his natural SG position, where he and the team began to flourish.

1st preaseason game and ppl are already demanding trades and throwing players under bus?

yawn.

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Not exactly, just pointed out some observations from the game and folks ran with it. The truth is however, Rodney is struggling making the transition to PG. In that preseason game we had 4 different players play the point: Rodney, WB, BenG, and Tay; of the 4 Stuckey looked the most uncomfortable, I promise you that if you saw the game you would agree.

1st preseason game and ppl are already demanding trades and throwing players under bus?

yawn.

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I think (for me anyway), it's more of a case of being the off-season and people are all starved for something to talk about. I'm not ready to give up on Stuck just yet. I'm also not ready to anoint him like so many others were last season.

There's a place for him in the association and there's a place for him on the Pistons roster. Whether it's at PG or SG, starter or bench, remains to be seen.

I think (for me anyway), it's more of a case of being the off-season and people are all starved for something to talk about. I'm not ready to give up on Stuck just yet. I'm also not ready to anoint him like so many others were last season.

There's a place for him in the association and there's a place for him on the Pistons roster. Whether it's at PG or SG, starter or bench, remains to be seen.

Here is what I posted pretty much at another forum: I listened to the 2nd half. To start the 3rd quarter, we were scoring well, and the other team was in check. And we built a lead that in a regular season game was pretty darn safe. (slipped away some in the 4th with a hodgepodge of players out there.) In other words, whether people can see why - the show was going pretty darn good with Stuckey in running things. Stuckey's job is not to make himself look good, but rather to make his team look good. Darn good job to start the 3rd quarter as far as making the team look good.