Treat others with basic decency. No personal attacks, shill accusations, hate-speech, flaming, baiting, trolling, witch-hunting, or unsubstantiated accusations. Threats of violence will result in a ban. More Info.

Do not post users' personal information.

Users who violate this rule will be banned on sight. Witch-hunting and giving out private personal details of other people can result in unexpected and potentially serious consequences for the individual targeted. More Info.

Vote based on quality, not opinion.

Political discussion requires varied opinions. Well written and interesting content can be worthwhile, even if you disagree with it. Downvote only if you think a comment/post does not contribute to the thread it is posted in or if it is off-topic in /r/politics. More Info.

Do not manipulate comments and posts via group voting.

Manipulating comments and posts via group voting is against reddit TOS. More Info.

Your headline must be comprised only of the exact copied and pasted headline of the article. More Info.

Submissions must be an original source.

An article must contain significant analysis and original content--not just a few links of text among chunks of copy and pasted material. Content is considered rehosted when a publication takes the majority of their content from another website and reposts it in order to get the traffic and collect ad revenue. More Info.

Articles must be written in English

An article must be primarily written in English for us to be able to moderate it and enforce our rules in a fair and unbiased manner. More Info.

Spam is bad!

If 33% or more of your submissions are from a single website, you will be banned as a spammer. More Info.

The ALL CAPS and 'Breaking' rule is applied even when the actual title of the article is in all caps or contains the word 'Breaking'. This rule may be applied to other single word declarative and/or sensational expressions, such as 'EXCLUSIVE:' or 'HOT:'. More Info.

I lived in Utah. Orrin is a dinosaur. I wonder how he fell out on the soldiers shooting innocents and raping young girls in Iraq? Those soldiers are public servants as well. Public Servants are not Indentured Servants.....what's happening is a sickout. And if every kid didn't miss 2+ days of school a year, I might see your logic, but face it, 2 days away from school doesn't hurt near as much as the cuts to education budgets.

Wisconsin borders northern Illinois where the Haymarket Rebellion and Massacre occurred in 1886. That riot led to the celebration of May 1 as International Labor Day. Midwesterners have a long tradition of bucking the system for the rights of the people.

"Meticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the government. All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations ... The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for ... officials ... to bind the employer ... The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives"

How important is education? Is it so important that it, as an end, justifies any amount of injustice, as a means, to accomplish? Hypothetically, can we force all kinds of slave labor and brutality to make sure Education happens? Kidnap kids and beat/rape them until they are good teachers maybe?

It is clear to me that no matter how important education is (extremely, imo) you can't violate other people's rights to make it happen. So long as teachers sincerely believe their rights are being violated and have given the thought serious consideration, it is completely acceptable for them to strike, to use collective bargaining power to end the rights abuse even if it temporarily costs education.

And in this particular case it is easy for me to agree with their sentiment: having that collective bargaining power stolen from you is possibly the clearest example of a rights abuse, because it opens the door for any kind of abuse to follow without any effective response to prevent it.

No, it's actually Orrin. For some reason Mormon men seem to have doubled letters in their first names: Orrin Hatch, Glenn Beck, Mitt Romney. I think it's kind of like how male members of the Sikh religion always have Singh in their names.