The intention of this forum is to discuss the new league with a select few players in order to keep things on track and with as few interruptions/off topic replies as possible (we've mainly been good about that). It was decided for these posts to be public (once the league is launched) when it was created so the community can see what went into forming this new league; the current active threads will be locked and kept as an archive so players won't be able to go back and revive old posts, just read them.

A concern has been brought up that this forum should be kept private for the new league administration only because sensitive information may have been shared and have a separate forum be created for the public.

Let's have this be a decision for the committee members instead of a few admins bickering on the side...

Option 1

Keep these posts private for the new league administration and create a new public forum

Option 2

Make these posts public after the league is launched and create a separate forum for the new league administration

Option 2: make it public
so that the bz community sees that this was a group effort on the part of many active players taking a role. That it was not a select few admins deciding things themselves. I feel its important for transparency. I don't really see sensitive or personal information shared. Create a separate forum for admin board.

"Trying to reason with a fool is like trying to teach a goldfish to bring you the newspaper"
"Sometimes people try to expose what's wrong with you, because they can't handle what's right about you."
"Measure your words -- they determine the distance of your relationships"

Make it public. I don't even know why this subforum is private in the first place. We're the 30ish who earned the right to establish the new league while others didn't? It seems pretty ridiculous that they get a poll that we made without them and no other input, e.g. whether this should even be done.

The poll system is ready to go and discussions seem finished, so it's not a bad time to make this public. This post however advertised that the league forum would become public by the time the new league launches.

Prior to or at the same time this forum is made public, an announcement topic should be created with a concise explanation of what we are planning and giving a link to the player poll that alezakos created. I wrote up such a draft in the GU Admin forum, but with all that has transpired since then it is no longer suitable. It doesn't have to be complicated, but it should exist when this goes public to summarize the general idea.

When someone has created such a post, it will be made sticky (and maybe locked, to direct the conversations to the respective topics) and this forum will be made public.

Over the past few months, there has been an effort led by GU and Ducati representatives to merge into a single, unified league. Simply put, the Ducati League seems to be all but dead and the GU League is persisting on life support. We hope to maximize activity and eliminate competition between two different leagues for the same player base by focusing all our efforts into one common goal.

While there have been a multitude of great ideas on what this league should offer, the players should ultimately decide what they want from their BZFlag experience. For this reason, a poll has been created so we can collectively decide how exactly this new league will be implemented. The poll includes questions such as the name of the new league, what maps it should include, how we should address current bans from existing leagues, and many others.

Special thanks go to allejo and alezakos, among many others, for working out much of the minutia, including updates to his League Overseer plugin and the new league website. allejo has specifically mentioned a statistic-recording element to League Overseer that should yield many exciting opportunities in this new league.

"Trying to reason with a fool is like trying to teach a goldfish to bring you the newspaper"
"Sometimes people try to expose what's wrong with you, because they can't handle what's right about you."
"Measure your words -- they determine the distance of your relationships"