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insulated shell jacket is a really serious piece for the fall collecting,amazing cold weather protection but so much freedom of movement and little weight, in terms of tech gear production there is no better and not a lifestyle option in the same ball park,as as a brand they can just manufacture shit no one else can

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have you seen it or tried it on in real life though?price is high but so is quality,if compared to the equivalent item from any of the lusted after jp brands the price is less and the quality incomparable,

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veilance event at firmament earlier this week,they installed a goretex basin covering the full front room of firmament and then projected a film featuring the Fall collection on to the water,better pics and info will be up on beinghunted i believe next week.

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I think its about time to have a dedicated thread for the Arcteryx Veilance line, theres a lot of cross over chatter with other brands in the category so be great to have a place of its own for all things Veilance related.

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yeah im quite angered over the fact that there was some sweet deals on the primaloft insulated shell i missed during the sales recently. oh well, temperatures rising.

Those of you who happen to own both the field jacket and the insulated shell, did you size similarly for both or size up one for the shell? I ask because I went with the same size and although it--the insulated shell-- fits perfectly with two layers underneath--under shirt and an oxford--the fit is not ideal, however, with a hoody. (Not that it matters at this point; they're sold out everywhere.)

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,I personally can wear the same size in both, which my preference is size small for a slim fit,I find a small in the field is pretty much perfect,to be worn with the insulator of a sweater,the insulated shell is fine for me in small if to be worn with light layers ie a shirt/tee which in honesty is all you really need under it,in general the insulated pieces will always run a shade trimmer than the shells,as they are insulated so basically have another layer in them.

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Do you guys really find it that warm, though? I was told it would easily replace a down jacket for an eastern Canadian winter and I don't find that to be entirely true due to how short it is. Don't get me wrong, it's an amazing jacket, I just would have been happier if it hit a little lower on the body.

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in regards to warmth,this is how I understand it performance wise, for total heat, down is still number 1,but what core loft is good for and one of the main reasons it is used is it work well in movement,ie it heats up with you, if you want a jacket to stand still in for hours in the cold get down, if you want a jacket to move around a freezing city core loft is really good for this, the other obvious pro's are the weight diff, the fact it doesn't take on odour and of course the big one it will not take on water,

being bonded also keeps the fill in place and also interestingly on the Veilance pieces the fill is distributed, so in places where you do not need it, like under your arms it is not there or is a lighter fill, this also improves fit.(note Im not sure how unique this is Im sure its from outdoor)

for travel and day to day city I think core/prima come out on top,just for the ease of use