You are right. Especially when their old man is a jerk, screws around, etc..... Your logic is flawed if you are attempting to place the blame on the woman. Simply not always the case.

An guess which female decided to have a CHILD with that so called "jerk". He was probably a jerk when she met him, and thats what she was attracted to in the first place. So using that logic, Collins open ended comment makes sense, and not flawed.

What made things way more complicated and curious as to why did it end?

Besides the fact that the kid dictated when we could hang out, anytime I brought him up she thought I was using it as a ploy to get her to like me more. We were always having to get someone to babysit and the argument that stands out is... finally I said, "why don't we just find a movie that he'll like too." and she assumed that I was feigning interest in her kid to get her to like me... that wasn't it at all, I just wanted to watch a movie and get laid.

She had some other things going on that led to us breaking up, but her having a kid just didn't help anything. It made it super easy to get laid in the beginning cause she was so desperate for it, but that was it.

Mid morning cup of tea...let me think about this and pontificate.....I only have two words for such a question.
The first is "FUCK" and the second is "NO"

Put them together and you get FUCK NO!

Now why am I saying this? Well simply put there are two reasons.
Reason #1 - why pick up someone else's problem?

Reason #1 - That said problem is 99.999999% of the time the mother and her tool of baby daddy x. Now I do generalize often and regularly but sadly I'm mostly right. Fire HOT, Water WET, Ice Cold and some women just love being treated like shit by tools.

So why be the dumb fuck nice guy and start dating a woman who is obviously "Tool food"? Do you hate yourself? Do you hate your mother!? Because your mother taught you better didn't she!

And here is where you like a dumb ass will tell me about how she has grown up or how she has changed or she is different...yeah STFU! Sit yo ass down and feel free to fuck a single mother but don't you ever dare to get emotionally involved with such a fucked up hot mess! If she were smart...which she obviously ISN'T she would have made her Tool Bag of an X whatever asshole use a condom. But she didn't and now for the next 25 years has to pay the price!

And before you give me this fucking line about her beingt he hottest piece of ass you have ever seen go to a strip club for an hour or two...odds are there are better looking girls there!

Get over it, hot pussy grows on trees! Just grow a set and pick one that doesn't have a screaming kid.

Dating a girl presently that has 2 kids, 5 and 10, and it is HARD! Kids always come first, can't do shit because 90% of everything involves the kids. Scheduling, what we watch on TV (can't even watch what I like even if it's in our room in case the kids walk in), what we eat, when we eat, and I'm the bad guy when the kids are gone (2 days every 2 weeks) and my schedule doesn't allow us to go out. It's getting old fast.

Double standard too, kids are used as the reason we can't do a lot of things, unless she wants to do it.

I could go on and on. I don't have kids, don't want any, they already have a daddy and I'm not going to take on the role, but I do love their mom so I'm hanging in there, for now.

The problem is that this shit gets worse when you are over 30.
I'm 35 and dating and have two rules.
1) No fat chicks!
2) No moms!
Do you know how many fucking women who were Tool Food in their 20's now have a baby daddy issue and keep looking at me like a fucking life line?

Listen bitch i'll fuck you silly but no way in hell am i going to be the father of your children. Find a dumb fuck who will do it.

Ok it's a quiet morning so let me tell you a story.
I know this one girl, known her since she was 18 and she is now 25ish. When she was 18 she was a very attractive red head with ice blue eyes and a great ass who time and time again would only date asshole tool and then bitch about it to all of us at work and then well...the next guy was no different. The number of guys she dated who rocked wife beaters / neck tats / pink polo shirts was epic! She went after NJ Shore trash like whale sharks go after plankton!

It was very typical of a girl who was a hot mess. Eventually while at university she was with some tool and well sperm met egg and out popped a little girl.

Enter back story, when she was in high school there was this one guy who had a huge crush on her it wasn't even funny. But she would not give him the time of the day let alone acknowledge that the boy exited. Sad really but what can you do. He was a nice guy and she loved to be slapped around.

But after she had the baby and the baby daddy ran for the hills guess who she discovers? Oh yeah the nice guy! Yup yup! So she roped the dumb ass into buying her a house had a second kid with him and well he is happier than a pig in shit! His high school crush is his girl....but only after she went around the block a few times and came back a little worse for wear.

It's easy how not to have kids.
It's called a rubber!
I mentor a number of high school students....yeah people trust me influential students. And when the question turned to rubbers I tell them this;
There two reason why you should always rock a rubber!
1) You are 18 and at best you will only last 30 seconds and no woman on earth can have an orgasm that fast! So with a rubber you may last a few min and she will thank you for it!

2) AIDs will kill you in 4 years! But kids...mother fuckers will be with you for 24 years and by the end of that you wish you were dead!

Wrap it up or name the fucker after me!

That said if a brain dead 18 yo kid can understand this, why can't any of these women?