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What is with these idiotic mono-hating trolls everywhere? Its just pathetic.

What about idiotic mono lovers trolls everywhere? Let's rewrite Linux in mono. And people wonder why ms has a monopoly. Qt is excellent toolkit which scares ms, but hey there are idiots who want to use ms tech on Linux.

Ah, because the topic's about "justice" here ?
I thought we were talking about a framework, not politics...

Seriously, you fanatics should calm down.
I'm OK with using FSF-compliant technologies, but hell, I'm using whatever I like, and more important what I find more useful.

Then use ms windows. There aren't bigger fanatics than mono boosters like Icaza and some Novell folks. I'm glad to hear Icaza's kicked out. If you're smart enough you should know it matters what licenses, toolkits, languages and applications should be used on Linux.

To the idiots who celebrate when developers lose their jobs: a big, warm fuck you. You have just scraped the bottom of the barrel, wishing your fellow humans pain and misery. Those people have families and children to feed, yet you laugh at their loss - fuck you.

To the Novell developers who just lost their jobs: I wish you the best and I hope you all find new jobs soon.

This is a sad day for FLOSS. No matter if your political views agreed or not, Novell was a significant contributor to the community.

There were many anti-Linux and anti-KDE/Qt zealots in Novell, so I wish mono and C# will die on Linux. There are much better and ms free ways of writing a software.

uhm...name at least one language that is that easy to code, that powerful and has such a great performance.

not to meantion Visual Studio, I've yet to see an IDE powerful and nice as that one.

don't get me wrong: I don't like Microsoft and in most cases their software is just plain bullshit. But when it comes to Visual Studio and C#, they did something wonderful. And thanks to mono, we can enjoy that, too.

yes, I am a C# programer. Yes I do want to learn C++ sometime, because I want to go "deeper" but as long as there is no IDE for linux that is capable of auto-completion and has a proper design, it's just pain in the ass. And yes I'm wondering how people could write such great things like the linux kernel and gnome withhout an IDE.

uhm...name at least one language that is that easy to code, that powerful and has such a great performance.

not to meantion Visual Studio, I've yet to see an IDE powerful and nice as that one.

don't get me wrong: I don't like Microsoft and in most cases their software is just plain bullshit. But when it comes to Visual Studio and C#, they did something wonderful. And thanks to mono, we can enjoy that, too.

yes, I am a C# programer. Yes I do want to learn C++ sometime, because I want to go "deeper" but as long as there is no IDE for linux that is capable of auto-completion and has a proper design, it's just pain in the ass. And yes I'm wondering how people could write such great things like the linux kernel and gnome withhout an IDE.

Try KDevelop

Originally Posted by Detructor

yes, I am a C# programer. Yes I do want to learn C++ sometime, because I want to go "deeper" but as long as there is no IDE for linux that is capable of auto-completion and has a proper design, it's just pain in the ass. And yes I'm wondering how people could write such great things like the linux kernel and gnome withhout an IDE.

Try KDevelop, while not quite as good as VisualStudio (nothing is, I'm afraid), it's still good, and it does support things like auto-completion and refactoring for C++ code. You get the best results (best integration) when developing for the Qt-library, but any C/C++ code is supported (as well as many other languages, with varying degree of integration). While primarily targeted at Linux, it works reasonably well on MS Windows too, once you have managed to get it setup properly (but that was a PITA last time I tried, which admittedly was a few years back, so it's most likely better now).