Not to jump on the bandwagon, but Holland needs to go. I'm sorry, but we've been coasting too long on the successes of the late 90s/early 00's teams, and part of that is letting Holland get away with not doing anything to improve the team season after season after season. Babs can only work with what Holland gives him, so our s***tiness isn't his fault. He can't make lazy, entitled, below average players look good. Babs needs a better team to work with, and the first step in getting there is getting a new GM.

And no, that doesn't mean getting Steve out of Tampa. When his current contract is up, I'd love to see him GM this team, because If****** love the guy and want to see him back in Detroit. However I don't want Steve in charge of another Dead Wings-era lineup. I'd like someone else to suffer that ignominy so that Steve can take the helm of a winning, competent, capable squad.

"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff." -- The Doctor

Not sure but Wings vs Blues, if you added blocked shots, Wings had like 55 shots or something crazy... and before we busted that no-name goalies scoreless streak in one of the last games, I was all annoyed he was getting so much credit when its obvious his D is outstanding.

Think for yourself. Question authority. Throughout human history as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are or where we are going in this ocean of chance, it has been the authorities, the political, the religious, the educational authorities who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing, forming in our minds their view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable, open mindedness, chaotic, confused vulnerability to inform yourself.

If Holland is still the GM, no. We need fresh blood in this organization. A lot of it. The fish rots from the head down. You can't rid of Illitch, he owns the team. So, who's next?

"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff." -- The Doctor

Think for yourself. Question authority. Throughout human history as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are or where we are going in this ocean of chance, it has been the authorities, the political, the religious, the educational authorities who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing, forming in our minds their view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable, open mindedness, chaotic, confused vulnerability to inform yourself.