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Why the partially hydrogenated oils? Partial hydrogenation results in the formation of trans fatty acids - recognized to be one of the worst out there. Fully hydrogenated oils would actually be preferrable to partial (it is more costly to produce fully hydrogenated oils), as they do not necessarily contain trans fats. This is not the only product from MRM to utilize partially hydrogenated oils, and it is a bit concerning to me.

Updating labels is rather slow, although it has technically been in effect since Jan. 1st, 2006. I believe under labeling laws, .5g or below can be listed as 0g anyways, and that may exempt from needing to print the trans fat listing. From the FDA website:

Originally Posted by FDA/CFSAN

There may be two reasons why you are not seeing trans fat on a product's label.

First, products entering interstate commerce on or after January 1, 2006 must be labeled with trans fat. As this is happening, FDA realizes that it will take some time for food products to move through the distribution chain to a store shelf. Thus, it may take a few months for products that are listing trans fat on their label to show up on a store shelf. However, you will see many products with trans fat listed since companies have already begun to declare trans fat on their products' labels.

Second, FDA has granted enforcement discretion to some firms to use old label stock that do not declare trans fat after the effective date of January 1, 2006. In these cases, food firms followed the required process described in FDA's Guidance for Industry and FDA: Requesting an Extension to Use Existing Label Stock after the Trans Fat Labeling Effective Date of January 1, 2006 (Revised)." For each request, FDA is considering whether the declared label value for trans fat is 0.5 g or less per serving. This information is important because lower amounts of trans fat would have less impact on public health than higher amounts of trans fat. Thus, trans fat information in the Nutrition Facts panel will be missing on some products (that contain lower amounts of trans fat) throughout the next year.

If trans fat is not declared on the label and you are curious about the trans fat content of a product, contact the manufacturer listed on the label.

Either way, with the addition of partially hydrogenated oils, I'd prefer to see proof/reasoning/evidence from MRM that their products do not contain trans fats (or at least, to any significant amount). When partially hydrogenated oils are utilized, but no trans fats are listed, that's enough to cause concern in my mind - enough to request the information .

Also, yes I would prefer to see a source of carbs from say oat flour, barley, or rice as oposed to maltodextrin... that's a whole new argument though .

As for the whole carb debate this is a weight gainer. The whole high gi\low gi argument can go either way but some find high GI better then low GI in terms of gains.

Personally I cannot use the product(at full serving) beacuase I am very carb sensitive. But during football I wish i new about proper diet\supplementation. I would have had a gainer and bcaa's in there if i knew about it. The reason for the gainer then would have been recovery was my number 1 factor not how I looked. Hell i was 275lbs as a jr in HS.

None of our products currently, manufactured this year, have any
hydrogenated oils/trans fats. We switched over to a sunflower oil blend
prior to the relabeling for trans fats.

Good to hear Coulie. For the containers with the sunflower oil blend, have the labels been updated (that is, are they different) from the ones containing the hydrogenated oils? The replacement with sunflower oils puts MRM's product back on the list of potentials

Good to hear Coulie. For the containers with the sunflower oil blend, have the labels been updated (that is, are they different) from the ones containing the hydrogenated oils? The replacement with sunflower oils puts MRM's product back on the list of potentials