I too have had sound problems with several PCs and a HP laptop. This is with -003, I`m going to try -005.

Same here. Every version, past 5.2.5 (that I tried) has had the
sound problems on my Dell Netbook and Dell Latitude D400 laptop.
That's why I am sticking with 5.2.5 .

I can make the problem go away by using 5.2.8-x with a fresh Puppy save file.
The sound works fine, until I add my personal content and programs. I need
to do that so that I have Firefox, Chrome, Thunderbird, Addressbook, etc...
Therefore, I have to increase the pup save file size. After an indeterminate
amount of time, the sound icon disappears from the menubar, or exists
on the menubar in a "crossed out" state. After that occurance, I have never
been able to restore the sound by any means (Sound setup, retrovol,
alsamixer, etc..).

5.2.5 does not have this issue. So I keep using it._________________ir

I'm assuming that the aplay -l command returns no playback devices for the folk who have no sound?

I did read that Ubuntu guide earlier when I was trying to get 5.28 to work -- had already used Ubuntu forum discussion to finally get the wireless working (required updating the ath9k driver module via compat)

I will try aplay -l in 528 on this machine as soon as I reboot to 528 (it will be a little while because I'm in the middle of an ISO download I don't want to interrupt)

But in the meantime, I can give you the results of aplay -l from Racy 53 (which I'm on now, and which does support this computer's sound)

Wish it worked in Lupu 5.28 since it is mature and very well supported with software rather than a test puppy as the others are by comparison. I want a Puppy I can work in day-to-day._________________Acer Aspire 5349-2635 laptop dual proc, 4gb ram, frugal Tahrpup 6.0.
1999 Thinkpad 600e hacked Pent 3, overclocked 800 mHz, 490 kb running Lupu 528
Acer Iconia A1-830 x86 tablet -- Puppy some day?

well, looks like Upup Precise has just been abandoned today, and no one will support Sulu.

That leaves Racy.

I guess as more people find their old machines giving up the ghost (as mine have -- some after 12 years of hard use) more people will have to find solutions to the requirements of more recent hardware to keep Puppy Linux going. The 3.x kernel software will be the only option unless solutions are found for basic problems in 2.6.x kernel puppies, like upgrading sound or wireless modules to use newer hardware.

Many of us are not trying to be "cutting edge" in hardware, but simply buying low cost versions of what's available. A good laptop computer is now less than $350 new, with 4 gigs ram, and 320 Gb drive. That is for dual proc, and integrated sound and video, often Intel.

Working with machines like these will be an increasing need for Puppy, if it is to survive. These are everyday low end computers, now. Sound and wireless module upgrades would open up many older kernel puppies to these new machines, rather than restricting their users to experimental, frequently abandoned late kernel rewrites.

It's unfortunate that Puppy, once a relatively unified distro, which sought to adapt and adopt to both old and new hardware now has become a bunch of splinter distros with specialized concerns scattered resources, no unified vision, and an average lifetime of days to months.

It is understandable that no one person can shoulder the burden of maintaining and upgrading a distro for very long, it really does require a community and unified leadership, as well as a commitment to a particular vision.

Puplets have always been around, but they were offshoots of the main trunk of the tree. Now the tree is gone and there is just a bush of short-lived shoots to mark where it's been.

I suppose anybody can build a Puppy from Woof, now. Kinda like nailing pieces of framing lumber together into something that looks like a house.

But nothing you can live in without a couple years work installing stairs, windows, wiring, plumbing, roofing, heating, and everything else by hand. That is, making things work together as a home for the different requirements of a family, not just leaving it as a simple open framework. Providing support, solving problems, tracking and killing bugs, updating software and modules.

That work is all hand work, not Woof automation, and no one person can do it alone. Repeating that same amount of work across 10 different Woof builds dilutes the community so that no distro works adequately for the majority of users.

Instead we have suggestions when something doesn't work to "try distro x" as a solution. Maybe that works for one problem but creates others. Especially when the originator gets fed up with requests to solve too many problems for his or her available time, and calls it quits. Then where do you go?_________________Acer Aspire 5349-2635 laptop dual proc, 4gb ram, frugal Tahrpup 6.0.
1999 Thinkpad 600e hacked Pent 3, overclocked 800 mHz, 490 kb running Lupu 528
Acer Iconia A1-830 x86 tablet -- Puppy some day?

I have no idea what that command is supposed to do, but as a guess it is doing something with the user's account, and adding groups somehow related to pulse audio which is probably just something applicable to Ubuntu and not Puppy.

But if any coders happen to read this, please let me know what this does, whether I need to do something similar, etc.

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