Another Response to A.A.

You are quoting the peaceful ayas of Mecca which were later abrogated in Madina .

My Response:

In my opinion, not a single ayah of the Qur`an has been abrogated. The entire Qur`an forms an integral whole where parts of it clarify the other parts.

You are welcome to poo poo this and hold whatever views you wish to. It's your choice and I respect you for that.

A.A. stated:

You know that mohammed was a very peaceful man in Mecca and all ayas of Mecca were peaceful. In Madina he became very violent and later Madina ayas are intolerant and violent.

My Response:

In Mecca, he and his followers were persecuted. In Medina, he and his community was allowed to defend themselves as the threats against them continued and their very existence was in jeopardy. This much is clear from the most authentic book on Islam, the Qur`an.

You are welcome to poo poo this and hold whatever views you wish to. It's your choice and I respect you for that.

Do I not have the right to hold my views and form my own opinions no matter how erroneous they seem to you?

This is not about winning an argument, A.A. I am merely engaged in a discussion and exchange of thoughts. If my postings make no difference, then that's fine. This is a short pass through for me and I never intended to make this website a permanent residence anyway.

There are a lot of people of various religions and non-religions who are engaged in doing a lot of positive things in realy life. If you don't see anything constructive coming out of ANY Muslims then there is nothing I can do.

A.A. stated:

Ayas 9.5 (slay the mushrikeens wherever you find them) and 9.29 (Fight the people of the book until ther convert or pay jizya humbly) abrogate all concilliatory gestures he made to non muslimss, jews and christians in earlier days.

My Response:

You are misrepresenting these verses. This much is clear. This is not the first time I have encountered someone quoting these verses. I am fully aware of how they are misquoted, misinterpreted and misrepresented, and am aware of their correct interpretations and applications.

Fighting in Islam is for self-defence ONLY!!!!

You are welcome to poo poo this and hold whatever views you wish to. It's your choice and I respect you for that. I won't blame you because I am aware of the evildoers who are carrying out violent acts in the name of Islam. So I fault them.

A.A. stated: You are giving them false security against a very violent ideology.

My Response:

I have been forced into providing clarifications and presentation of my perceptions and understanding. The original intent was to post my comments on an article but then the onslaught began. Was it a good idea on my part to respond, I don't know.

There is no intention on my part to give anyone any feeling of security. You are entitled to consider whatever interpretation and application of Islam as real and true.

This is your choice and I respect you for it and understand your rationale.

There are many people who are engaged in a lot of positive actions. One of them is Fethullah Gulen. Here is something you may wish to read and reject out of your suspicions and image of Islam and Muslims:

"Fethullah Gülen and the 'People of the Book'; A Voice from Turkey for Interfaith Dialogue" at

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