Facing a triple threat: Doha, EPA and Congress

They are putting our energy, economy, jobs, living standards, health and welfare at grave risk

Guest post by Paul Driessen

Climate alarmists are meeting in Doha, Qatar, to hammer out a new international treaty to replace the Kyoto Protocol that expires this year. The US Environmental Protection Agency is poised to unleash its first wave of carbon dioxide regulations. And Congress is teaming up with the White House to legislate taxes on hydrocarbon use and CO2 emissions, on top of pending tax hike on “the rich.”

This serious triple threat to our energy, economy, jobs, living standards, health and welfare is justified by assertions that the actions will stabilize Earth’s climate and prevent a litany of global warming horrors.

Our planet’s climate has never been stable, and never will be. There is no empirical evidence that carbon dioxide drives climate change, or that greenhouse gases have supplanted the complex and interrelated natural forces that have produced big and little ice ages, floods and droughts, stormy and quiescent periods throughout the ages.

Even as atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have risen from 280 parts per million before 1880 to 391 ppm (0.0391%) today, average global temperatures have flat-lined for 16 years;hurricane and tornado frequency and intensity have fallen to new lows; Antarctic sea ice continues to expand, while Arctic ice caps were reduced, not by warming, but by huge storms; and the rate of sea level rise remains steady.

While alarmists insist that Hurricane Sandy was “unprecedented” and proof that “climate change is real,” it is just one of many major storms that have battered New York and eastern Canada over the years.

Moreover, every ton of painful, economy-crippling US carbon dioxide reductions would be offset by 100 tons from India, China and elsewhere, and atmospheric CO2 concentrations would continue to climb.

But these inconvenient truths are irrelevant to climate campaigners, who are using “dangerous manmade climate change” as the best pretext ever devised to control energy use and economies. They simply hypothesize, model and assert that every observed weather and climate phenomenon is due to human CO2 emissions. Warmer or colder, wetter or drier, more ice or less, more storms, fewer storms, occasional big storms – if not now, someday, sooner or later. It’s exactly what climate alarmists predicted.

This is not science. It is political science, rooted in a loathing of hydrocarbons, economic growth and humanity. It’s ideological, religious – the only state-sanctioned, state-supported religion permitted today.

If Eisenhower’s military-industrial complex was bad, what are we to make of today’s political-scientific-university-bureaucratic-military-industrial-media-environmentalist complex? Funded and driven by tens of billions of dollars annually for research grants, renewable energy programs and regulatory regimes, it has far too much at stake to forsake adherence to Mann-made global warming cataclysm hypotheses.

According to Government Accountability Institute president Peter Schweizer, well-connected political cronies take hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars for “green energy” and “global warming prevention” programs, funnel it to soon-to-be-bankrupt companies, keep a few million for themselves, and launder a few hundred thousand back to the politicians who brokered the deals. Obama campaign bundlers, says Schweizer, received more than $21,000 of corporate welfare for each dollar they donated to the Obama reelection campaign. Big Green environmentalist groups also garner countless millions in taxpayer lucre.

The consequences for average workers and families are dire. If even one of these swords of Damocles falls – Doha, EPA or the carbon tax – the effects will be disastrous. If all three are imposed (or all three in conjunction with tax hikes on job and wealth creators), the impacts will be utterly devastating.

Ignoring these facts, extensive other evidence for natural climate change, and the numerous scientists who reject their manmade climate catastrophe claims, advocates of a new Doha climate treaty, EPA “CO2 endangerment” rules, and “carbon taxes” insist these actions are needed to avoid ecological calamities.

They are adamant in contending that carbon taxes will somehow benefit the economy, create jobs and balance out-of-control spending. One is reminded of Will Rogers insightful quip: “Suppose you were an idiot – and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.”

Every one of these actions is intended to increase the cost of the hydrocarbon energy that powers our economy. But raising the cost of transportation fuels, electricity, lighting, heating, air conditioning, and thus of food, materials and equipment will severely impact the bottom line for factories, utilities, offices, farms, shops, airlines, shippers, hospitals, schools, churches, charities and government offices.

The poorest families may get rebates for their increased energy costs. These institutions will not. They will be forced to reduce wages and benefits, hire fewer full-time employees, lay people off, outsource operations to countries where energy costs are lower, or even close their doors.

Taxes paid by companies and employees will dwindle. Instead of paying taxes, newly jobless workers will collect unemployment and welfare – from shrinking government coffers. Charities will have much less money, even if deductions for donations remain in the tax code.

Unemployment will bring reduced nutrition, increased stress, and higher rates of heart attacks and strokes, spousal and child abuse, alcohol and drug abuse, suicide and premature death. The social, economic and healthcare costs will further “fundamentally transform” America, as President Obama is determined to do.

Even if Congress legislates carbon taxes, nothing suggests that Lisa Jackson will refrain from imposing EPA’s anti-hydrocarbon CO2 rules on top of them, or that the White House will reject any Doha treaty. There is no hint that the Interior Department will cease using the Endangered Species Act and other laws to shut down oil and gas drilling, while ignoring the ESA and growing slaughter of eagles and whooping cranes by wind turbines – or that the Energy and Defense Departments, EPA and Congress will stop spending more in borrowed funds to subsidize corn ethanol and Navy biofuel schemes.

These anti-hydrocarbon policies also mean the US Treasury will be deprived of hundreds of billions in lease bonuses, royalties, taxes and other revenues that it would realize from the development of our nation’s vast oil, natural gas and coal deposits. Instead, the United States will be forced to pay billions more for imported oil, often from dictatorial, unethical, environmentally reckless countries.

New hydrocarbon energy restrictions and green energy demands will deprive Third World families and communities of abundant, reliable, affordable energy, obstruct human rights progress, and keep entire nations impoverished. They will kill millions more from lung infections (from burning wood and dung), intestinal diseases (from contaminated water), malaria and other diseases of poverty and eco-imperialism.

Those countries will receive far less foreign aid from increasingly cash-strapped Western nations – and little of the Green Climate Fund cash that industrialized nations will supposedly transfer to kleptocratic ruling elites in poor countries, as reparations for supposedly causing climate change.

For every nation, this coerced energy and economic deprivation will make it increasingly difficult to adapt to future climate changes that nature will inevitably bring our way – in an era when mankind ought to have the wealth and technology to adapt far more easily than our ancestors were able to do.

The Climate Change Complex will do everything in its power to avoid discussing these issues, and vilify anyone who brings them up. However, we need to have this debate, and we need to have it now – in Doha, Congress, the courts and our state legislatures – before our fate is sealed for us.

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Paul Driessen is senior policy advisor for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (www.CFACT.org) and author of Eco-Imperialism: Green power – Black death

52 thoughts on “Facing a triple threat: Doha, EPA and Congress”

Perhaps this is why there is a media silence on Doha. For if people actually KNEW what these scoundrels were up to, there would be revolution. The media chooses silence, because even they cannot put a spin centrifugal enough to fling away the nasty bits. And it will be too late when the silent majority finds its voice.

This is a ‘perfect storm’ and not only a fitting end to an age of stagnation but the dawn of the new age of Western post-modern deconstructivism and methinks, not the best time to believe in re-incarnation.

I remember during the days of the cold war when per capita energy use was considered a vital statistical measure of the standard of living of a nation’s citizens. Nuclear power stations were seen as the key for a prosperous future and were under construction and being planned in considerable numbers.on both sides of the geopolitical divide.

If you apply heat from something like a heat gun to the surface of water you will find that NO heat passes into the water. The reason seems to be that the heat is blocked by surface tension. The blockage is total. I’m referring here to physical heat not radiated energy from the sun. Radiated energy passes through surface tension. Recall that surface tension can be demonstrated by placing a paper clip on the surface of water and observing that the surface tension supports the weight. Physical heat has no weight. Because of surface tension physical heat cannot pass from the atmosphere into the ocean. In other words there is no mechanism for storing heat on this planet. Because there is no mechanism for storing heat there can be NO AGW. This nonsense needs to stop and this FACT will stop it. The irony of the situation is that if you want to heat water from above using a heat gun you need to place a floating object on the surface to cancel the surface tension, then heat will pass. If you wish to disagree, feel free,but first try heating water from above.

Paul Driessen ” while Arctic ice caps were reduced, not by warming, but by huge storms”

That is really not accurate. What is affected by storms is the one day a year minimum that the bedwetters like to focus on. Storms have a short term effect and have exaggerated some years minima, which is why it is stupid and misleading to look at one day per year when we have detailed daily records going back decades.

When we take ALL the data into account and filter out short-term weather (eg 13 day filter) we see quite clearly what is happening.

The warmer North Atlantic temperatures at the end of the century attributed to unusually strong El Nino events (note the red line is inverted) did indeed result in an increased rate of melting of Arctic ice. This much seems unsurprising.

What is more interesting is now that sea temperatures have stabilised, while remaining warmer, the rate of melting has returned to its earlier oscillatory behaviour and the big slide in Arctic ice area that got everyone justifiably concerned has ENDED.

Let’s say that again. The BIG MELT HAS ENDED.

Second conclusion is that far from seeing tipping points or run away warming this behaviour demonstrates a NEGATIVE FEEDBACK. On this evidence, more exposed water is providing extra cooling that counteracts the warmer water and stabilises the ice area.

Also if we use all the data, with weather removed, to detect the seasonal max and min points and look at how the length of the melting season changes over time, we find the following:

Melting season was longer than six months during the warm period but has recently swung downwards and is not shorter than six months. Again the steady melting pattern of the last 30 years is broken.

In the US, whether they knew it or not, people voted to have this done. I wasn’t one of those voters so ya’ll don’t come looking for me when you can’t pay your utilities and can’t afford the gas to get to your job, if you still have one.

A report in today’s Daily Telegraph (UK) states that the US treasury is worried about income. Without large tax hikes it will fall over the precipice.
One way to save money, without tax increases, is to abandon the ”green energy” policies which has cost the US $Bs of dollars without any chance of payback. There is no such thing as ”green energy”, unless you live in a cave using a wood fire for warmth and cooking. And even wood fires are not completely ”green” regardless of their CO2 production. The west’s political system is all well and good but when you vote in lawyers and economists as your representatives expect more laws and higher taxes and a drastic fall in living standards.
You voted them in, you can vote them out.

And we have equally stupid politicians here in the UK, who are following similar paths. In fact the entire EU is going down the same road. But here things are even worse because 23 states are doing all this within a failing currency experiment centred on the Euro.

Humanity is doomed not because of the myth of MMGW/CC but because of the stupidity and/or power-seeking of the climate change tyrants. We live in dangerous times not because of MMGW/CC because climate ideology has unleashed Big Brother.

The Industrial Era has spawned industrialized people. Generations of paper shufflers, lawyers, lobbyists, advocates, United Nations, unions, etc. etc have corroded traditional values. Eventually something will break. Socialized schools now have to medicate the kids to control their sugar crazed mania. Take a look at the cesspools of Detroit, Philadelphia, Chicago to see a sample of your socialized future. History says they will stop only when you stop feeding them.

It’s the energy restrictions that will destroy [x] [x] [x] tick whichever box I have set up for you but for god’s sake don’t think for yourself….

Here’s another good one.

“Does CO2 harm trees”. A wonderful question asked by the Heartland Survey on CO2 and Global Warming. Masters in disinformation and denialism for those who lived through the Acid Rain fiasco.

When did the US stop being a go ahead nation which took issues by the horns and worked to solve them? Rather than business as usual and damn the consequences? Ah sorry the US never led the world, that was the UK. Whilst the US has had many good ideas they have constantly been turned inwards rather than outwards to lead the world. My mistake.

Could the US lead the world in Green Energy and renewables? Certainly. Could it make a world market of it, making jobs and developing the technology around the world? Certainly. Will it? Not a chance, that’s not what the US does. So all these third world countries will be left buying coal from America and Australia to generate the energy they can afford. Instead of producing energy with their own natural resources and improving their OWN standard of living without having to get handouts from the “benign” western nations. Who keep them in grinding poverty, to drive their western energy business and throw them some scraps at the end of the feast….

The arrogance of the statement that “Those countries will receive far less foreign aid from increasingly cash-strapped Western nations” should beggar belief, but, sadly, does not. No word of making these nations energy independent. No word of utilising the abundant power sources in solar, geothermal or ocean. No word of the “benign” nations of the west developing the clean power technologies that will liberate the poort nations from power poverty. Dear me no, that would lift them up to the same level as the west. We couldn’t have that could we.

You have to have life to worry about standards of living and the changes in the climate that will happen, due to the increases of CO2 pollution, will deny all too many of those people life. So why worry about standards of living? Talk to the people of the Horn of Africa about standards of living. They’re starving and dying and living off charity as their land turns into a dust bowl 4 years out of 5.

However this article does make a diversion from the real topic. That of the combined Global SIA figures which peaked 3 weeks ago. At a second record low. Yes the chart that many WUWT believers point to as the “only chart that makes any sense”. Not performing as you wanted? Diddums. But, ignore it at your peril. The people are not stupid and will not believe “made up” for much longer. Reality is much stronger than massaged statistics and when the Arctic reaches virtual ice free in summer “the people” will know you do not tell the truth.

Then you will, eventually, be held to account for your words and actions.

I leave you with a famous quote.

“The Americans will always do the right thing… after they’ve exhausted all the alternatives.” — Winston Churchill

Today, the Financial Times revealed that David Cameron has blocked the appointment of David Kennedy, chief executive of the Committee on Climate Change (CCC), as the new permanent secretary of the department of energy and climate change.

H.R. says:
December 3, 2012 at 2:20 amIn the US, whether they knew it or not, people voted to have this done. I wasn’t one of those voters so ya’ll don’t come looking for me when you can’t pay your utilities and can’t afford the gas to get to your job, if you still have one.
The last election was more a failure of the GOP than an endorsement of Obama. Romney was a flawed candidate in many ways, finding ways of alienating voters from every spectrum. I voted for him despite those flaws, primarily because I figured he might be able to hold the line against EPA regulations and money-hungry Big Green.

@Polistra, while much of the GOP got bit by the Greenie bug, particularly McCain (which is why I didn’t vote for him), I believe that is turning around now. Chin up.

The idea that Doha is a serious threat to anyone is laughable. For three years now, the same charade has taken place: third rate politicians and NGOs meet in some far flung country to … give the rest of the world some relief from their nonsense. And they were allowed to do so, so long as they didn’t make any progress to a replacement for the Kyoto commitment that ends on the 31st December.

McCain was greener than Obama in every way. McCain was ENDORSED by New Scientist.

Romney’s record as Mass gov was at least as green as Obama.

Bush happily signed more enviro laws than Obama. (so far!)

It’s not the Dems, its EVERY SINGLE BLOODY POLITICIAN EXCEPT JAMES INHOFE.

Hero Inhofe still stands alone with no help from either treasonous suicidal “party” in this utterly screwed former country.

Ummm… you may not have noticed that of Bush, McCain, Obama and Romney that only Obama is President? You may also not noticed the EPA is an executive branch agency, the head of the EPA is appointed by the President and serves at the pleasure of the President?

I’m not convinced that all of these things will come to pass as you predict. I don’t think any of these policies, if implemented, will be able to stay implemented for long. The economic costs would be too high and with the economy already on the brink of a recession further regulation might lead to counter measures and back lash against environmentalists.

I assume the more likely outcome to be increased electricity prices due to renewable energy based corporate welfare. We will continue to burn fossil fuels while wasting large sums of tax dollars installing massive wind and solar farms. Fossil fuels will continue to do all the heavy lifting but environmentalists will be pleased since the renewable energy giants who back them will be receiving large sums of corporate welfare. Electricity prices will rise slowly (and unnecessarily) pleasing all parties involved (except you know, the non-energy sector of the economy).

I don’t think environmental groups are dumb enough to kill the goose that lays their golden eggs…they need to keep it alive as long as possible and bleed us dry in the most profitable fashion. If all three of these groups succeed they’ll kill the goose, alert the populace and have the public poised to oppose any further environmental movement.

A point seldom discussed on this site is that public trust in science as a reliable enterprise is waning. If global warming is shown to be just about money and power public distrust in science will continue its unabated climb. This distrust can just as easily be wielded to allow formations of new power structures that are even more anti-science then the current. This will foster stronger distrust of older and effective solutions to problems. Anti-nuclear sentiments will be on the rise, all real environmental concerns thrown to the side, anti-vaccine movements will be able to point to the lies perpetrated by global warmistas, and every crackpot will find renewed faith in their anti-science.

Mike Bromley the Kurd says: Perhaps this is why there is a media silence on Doha.

Yes its rather disconcerting to find your own website (http://scef.org.uk) in the top ten for news on Kyoto.

However, the reason for this media silence is because the NGOs who make all the clamour have nothing to shout about and us sceptics are not giving an alternative story, so there is nothing to report.

Doha was the opportunity for us sceptics who feed the press full of alternative stories on Doha, and this is literally the first article that’s even partly covered this momentous event. In the sense that it’s the last climate talks before the Kyoto Commitment ends and even the lies of the Green NGOs about an extension to Kyoto** will be unable to hide its demise.

**It has been technically impossible to extend Kyoto since the 3rd October as this is the last date for amendments to take place before the 31st December when the Kyoto Commitment ends.

This is not science. It is political science, rooted in a loathing of hydrocarbons, economic growth and humanity. It’s ideological, religious – the only state-sanctioned, state-supported religion permitted today.

It’s not even political science. It is called systems thinking and it is the Collectivist political Theory pushed from the 1972 UN Conference on the Human Environment on and seen in the Meadows Limits to Growth work they did for the Club of Rome in the 70s. It never goes away because its purpose is to take out the Enlightenment view of man and science and replace it with new ways of thinking that are relational. http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/using-systems-thinking-to-retie-the-psychological-umbilical-cord-to-our-environment/ is a good overview of this type of Systems thinking. And Peter Senge’s work is now dominating what educators and Fortune 500 execs are all being told.

It is a useful political theory if you want economic control and control over individual behavior without admitting that is what’s up. Since such central planning has a bad rep it has to seem necessary for other reasons than greed and power-lust.

This matters acutely for this discussion because the EPA put out a report last week called “The Road Ahead” that explicitly adopted this Meadows/Senge/Lasczlo/Bertalanffy systems thinking as a policy making device. To help in its modelling to supposedly better protect public health.

So a collectivist political theory grounded in the Marxist theory of environmental and socio-cultural influence on people and their beliefs is being used to justify a centrally planned economy and regulation of personal behavior.

Oh and its also the basis for all the education “reforms”, K-12 and higher ed, going on all over the world, especially in the US. All coming ultimately out of the UN.

Doha’s just a party to celebrate control of the relevant regulatory agencies.

A world governance body that would use bogus data and paid politicians and scientists to control the world’s population is evil incarnate. Begging Einstein’s forgiveness: “Two things are infinite: voter’s stupidity and the desire of the ruling class for power and wealth, and I’m pretty sure about both of them.”

You feel that political action to attempt to lessen or prevent CAGW is a socialist/plutocracy/ conspiracy that will strip you of your freedom and bankrupt the masses, based on what exactly? Yet you dismiss papers which support the theory of CAGW as “dooms day” alarmists?

Certainly there are extremes on both sides of the issue that are “alarmists”, the issue is that it is hard to identify on “alarmist” when they are on your side of the debate. Let me help you – this article is a great example of “alarmism” from the skeptic side of CAGW.

Below are a few quotes from the article, try to think that these are referring to what someone believes will be the effects of CAGW, who would you react to them then?

“The consequences for average workers and families are dire”
“…will deprive Third World families and communities of abundant, reliable, affordable energy, obstruct human rights progress, and keep entire nations impoverished. They will kill millions more…”

Now, this is not to say that implementing measures to deter CO2 emmissions will not have an economic and societal impact but to say that it will lead to some dystopic society, without referring to any study or report, is just as bad as some of the CAGW alarmism.

The study of economic and societal implications of Environmental Tax Reforms is an area of focus for researchers. I suggest doing a google search and reading a few papers (or at least the abstracts) before predicting the economic end-of-days.

Again, I’m not stating that ETR will have no impact, a positive impact or a negative impact. What I’m saying is that there is a lot of research going into this area that suggests the effects will be moderate (some say on the negative side, others on the positive side).

Skeptics pride themselves on drawing conclusions on evidence, not emotion. This article is a fine example of doing the latter.

How is it possible for the Congress, EPA, and Doha to ever pass such mortifying laws? Most people who comment here would never think it possible. Well, it is both possible and now very probable, considering how the process works:

Just a Shotgun

You’re sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door.

Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers. At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way.

With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun.
You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it.

In the darkness, you make out two shadows. One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire.

The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside.

As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you’re in trouble. In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless. Yours was never registered.

Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm.

When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter. “What kind of sentence will I get?” you ask. “Only ten-to-twelve years,” he replies, as if that’s nothing. “Behave yourself, and you’ll be out in seven.”

The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper. Somehow, you’re portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys.

Their friends and relatives can’t find an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both “victims” have been arrested numerous times.

But the next day’s headline says it all: “Lovable Rogue Son Didn’t Deserve to Die.”
The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters. As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, then the international media. The surviving burglar has become a folk hero.

Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he’ll probably win. The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you’ve been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects.

After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time.
The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars.

A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven’t been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you. Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man.

It doesn’t take long for the jury to convict you of all charges. The judge sentences you to life in prison!

This case really happened.

On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk, England, killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term.

How did it become a crime to defend one’s own life in the once great British Empire?

It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license.

The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns.

Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns. Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987.

Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.

The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of “gun control”, demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a rifle.)

Nine years later, at Dunblane, Scotland, Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school.

For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners.

Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few side arms still owned by private citizens.

During the years in which the British government incrementally took away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism.

Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released.

Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying, “We cannot have people take the law into their own hands.”

All of Martin’s neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no fear of the consequences.
Martin himself, a collector of antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars.

When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn’t were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn’t comply.

Police later bragged that they’d taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens.
How did the authorities know who had handguns? The guns had been registered and licensed.

NeilT says: “Then you will, eventually, be held to account for your words and actions.”

This is the typical threat of the fanatic towards anyone who writes something they disagree with. NeilT is fond of quoting Churchill who stood against another form of tyranny. Here is a quote from Churchill’s opposite number which more appropriately applies to the NeilTs of this world and their blind acceptance of self-righteous CAGW dogma:

“All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is addressed to.”

Random thought: for biological sources of materials and energy to become economical viable (ie. sustainable), we probably need to release as much carbon (particularly CO2) into the atmosphere and soil as possible.

Then, in 1996, as Craig writes in his recent book Treasonable Doubt, the public release of previously classified materials known as Venona — Soviet cables intercepted and eventually decrypted by U.S. counter-intelligence — “blew open the case, leaving little doubt of Harry Dexter White’s complicity in the Soviet underground.” Evidence from Venona is supported by limited information from KGB archives presented by the historian Allen Weinstein in collaboration with former KGB official Alexander Vasilliev in their book The Haunted Wood. Taken together, these new sources appear to confirm that White was involved with the Soviet underground in Washington from the mid-1930s until Chambers’ defection in 1938 and again during the Second World War. They thus corroborate Chambers’ and Bentley’s claims.

So the World Bank and IMF were the results of the work by a TRAITOR.

# 2. World Bank’s Influence at IPCC, straight from good old Patchy himself.

Extended Interview:
Climate Science Leader Rajendra K. Pachauri : Why, the people will see it. After all, let’s face it, my predecessor [at IPCC, Robert Watson] was working with the World Bank and he was getting a salary from the World Bank while he was essentially working for the IPCC. You could say that he was serving the interest of the World Bank, which a lot of people would criticize.

# 3. Thanks to whistle blowers the World Bank does not succeed in its plans at Copenhagen

The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank; would abandon the Kyoto protocol – the only legally binding treaty that the world has on emissions reductions; and would make any money to help poor countries adapt to climate change dependent on them taking a range of actions.

This sounds a lot like the World Bank/IMF much hated Structural Adjustment Programmes (SAPs)

Please note this is the end result of the bankruptcy of any country. The World bank/IMF moves in and take control of a country’s economic policies. This is the direction our politicians are driving the EU, USA and Australia towards. (Is U.S. already ‘bankrupt’?) The word traitor again comes to mind.

…. the immediate effect of a SAP is generally to hike prices up three or four times, increasing poverty to such an extent that riots are a frequent result.

The term “Structural Adjustment Program” has gained such a negative connotation that the World Bank and IMF launched a new initiative, the Poverty Reduction Strategy Initiative, and makes countries develop Poverty Reduction Strategy Papers (PRSP). While the name has changed, with PRSPs, the World Bank is still forcing countries to adopt the same types of policies as SAPs.

For more information on SAPs, read SAPRIN’s report, “The Policy Roots of Economic Crisis and Poverty”, a four-year, multi- country participatory investigation into the effects of specific structural adjustment policies on a broad range of economic and social sectors and population groups….

In the dozens of countries where the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank have imposed structural adjustment programs (SAPs), the people who have seen deterioration in their standards of living, reduced access to public services, devastated environments, and plummeting employment prospects have not been passive. The pages of newspapers, magazines, and academic journals (those that can survive in depressed economies) been filled with damning analysis of structural adjustment. More important, people have been organizing to combat the pillaging of their lands and livelihoods. This organizing has resulted in mass movements and protests on every continent, but they are not often reported on in the mainstream press.

The following selection of notable struggles in the last 20 years of fighting structural adjustment follows was culled largely from the work of George Caffentzis and Silvia Federici of the Committee for Academic Freedom in Africa (CAFA) and by 50 Years Is Enough in Washington, DC.

Sen. Dick Durbin, [has been the Senate Majority Whip, the second highest position in the Democratic Party leadership in the Senate, since 2007.] on a local Chicago radio station this week, blurted out an obvious truth about Congress that, despite being blindingly obvious, is rarely spoken: “And the banks — hard to believe in a time when we’re facing a banking crisis that many of the banks created — are still the most powerful lobby on Capitol Hill. And they frankly own the place.” The blunt acknowledgment that the same banks that caused the financial crisis “own” the U.S. Congress — according to one of that institution’s most powerful members — demonstrates just how extreme this institutional corruption is.

The ownership of the federal government by banks and other large corporations is effectuated in literally countless ways, none more effective than the endless and increasingly sleazy overlap between government and corporate officials. Here is just one random item this week announcing a couple of standard personnel moves:

Former Barney Frank staffer now top Goldman Sachs lobbyist….
….Paese went from Chairman Frank’s office to be the top lobbyist at Goldman, and shortly before that, Goldman dispatched Paese’s predecessor, close Tom Daschle associate Mark Patterson, to be Chief of Staff to Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, himself a protege of former Goldman CEO Robert Rubin and a virtually wholly owned subsidiary of the banking industry. That’s all part of what Desmond Lachman — American Enterprise Institute fellow, former chief emerging market strategist at Salomon Smith Barney and top IMF official (no socialist he) – recently described as “Goldman Sachs’s seeming lock on high-level U.S. Treasury jobs.”….

Sen. Evan Bayh’s previously-reported central role on behalf of the bankers in blocking legislation, hated by the banking industry, to allow bankruptcy judges to alter the terms of mortgages so that families can stay in their homes.….

We are being failed by our free press. Rather than informing, they are cheer leading.
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The press is not ‘FREE’ it is owned by the owner of the press and that owner is the banks.

The idea that Doha is a serious threat to anyone is laughable…
Why have so few sceptics noticed that it really is the end of this climate madness?
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It is not Doha that is the problem it is Obama and a lame duck session of Congress. Despite a bitter fight for several years over the Food Safety act, it was passed during the lame duck session. Now we hear Republicans are thinking a carbon tax could be a great way to “Finding” more money.

I keep remembering Paul Warburg’s statement about the Federal Reserve Act, “Relax fellas, don’t you get it? Our object is to get the bill passed. We can fix it up later.”

Once the camel gets its nose in the tent the entire beast is sure to follow. Can you remember any bureaucracy that was dismantled without a war?

watch every large company reliant on fossil fuels leave the countries that sign up to this bilge. You will have an elite of green activists sitting on a pile of nothing, they will seal their own fate, perhaps it is better to speed up their wishes and watch the publics absolute hatred for these people grow, eventually they will be the ones who have to leave town.

You feel that political action to attempt to lessen or prevent CAGW is a socialist/plutocracy/ conspiracy that will strip you of your freedom and bankrupt the masses, based on what exactly?
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I am not going to repeat it. The environmental consequences I detailed HERE

re: robert barclay’s comment above about surface tension as a blocker of heat transfer.

Robert, Please conduct the following experiment. Fill a cooler with ice water. Insulate the sides and bottom of the cooler as thoroughly as you’d like. Put it in a dark room. Tell us how long it takes the water to reach room temperature.

Your theory predicts an answer just short of infinity. (Okay, not really since the R-factor of the cooler bottom is limited. But your theory does predict a very, very long time.)

To be sure that you are controlling for everything except the top surface of the water, try different shapes of coolers – some thermos-shaped (tall w/ narrow opening), some more cookie-sheet-shaped (lots of surface area) and some conventional cube-shaped coolers.

Your theory predicts that all will heat at the same rate because of the R-factor of the cooler walls and bottom. My prediction is that the cookie-sheet will warm much more quickly than the thermos.

The biggest threat worldwide are the environment agencies. They have more power to legislate than the government who appoints them and for good reason. As OBlarny said “there’s more than one way to skin a nation. He should know being born in a dictatorship.

NeilT says:
December 3, 2012 at 3:46 am
Cue long, anti-U.S. anti-fossil fuel spittle-flecked rant with a reality basis of zero. You far-left greenie whackos are a disgrace to human society. Fortunately, your alarmist anti-human ideology is crumbling as we speak. Thinking people can see through it.

@H.R. says:
December 3, 2012 at 2:20 am
To which Bruce replied in part:“The last election was more a failure of the GOP than an endorsement of Obama.”

Understood, but the people who stand to be hurt most by higher energy prices and higher costs of goods are those in the lower income brackets who voted to “tax the rich,” voted for Obama phones and free condoms, i.e. vote for Obama, and didn’t think through the total package. Inflationary measures low economic growth hurt everyone but the lower your income, the sooner you feel it.

I agree with your analysis. Not many voted for Romney even though they voted for Romney. I’m just saying I don’t want to hear any whining when the consequences of the election kick in. Of course we’ll hear whining, but I reserve the right to say “Told ya’ so” as needed.

How do German and Danish electricity rates compare to France? What do you think the Danish rates would be if they didn’t have a small population and access to significant amounts of hydro power from Norway and Sweden? Do you believe that the net effects are beneficial?

It has always been quite clear that President Obama’s agenda has been to adopt the green ‘Spanish Model’ responsible for damaging the Spanish economy. This is now going to happen in the US and it is going to cause needless and untold damage to the US economy that it will sentence millions of Americans to severe economic hardship and financial servitude for decades to come. Those who voted for Obama will have no right to complain.

Congress is not a threat to anyone in the US.
Congress is nothing more than a Dept Store Display of rigid, unmoving mannequins. All they do is a lot of window dressing.
The real threat in the US would be the legislative branch of gov’t: The EPA.