Jeremy Irons Compares Gay Marriage To Incesthttp://www.businessinsider.com/jeremy-irons-compares-gay-marriage-to-incest-2013-4/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Wed, 13 Dec 2017 22:51:50 -0500Aly Weismanhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/51633b2eeab8ea0f7c000024The TruthMon, 08 Apr 2013 17:48:30 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51633b2eeab8ea0f7c000024
100% Agree!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5162fe3deab8ea9d6c000002Barry WrightMon, 08 Apr 2013 13:28:29 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5162fe3deab8ea9d6c000002
So your way or the highway huh?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/516008e16bb3f7444900003cOmicronSat, 06 Apr 2013 07:37:05 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/516008e16bb3f7444900003c
I'm all for gay rights, in fact, I believe it is a human rights issue. However I am also for journalistic integrity and responsibility. Although Jeremy Irons is using a BS argument against gay marriage, he is not comparing gay marriage to incest. His concern is laughable to be sure, but pointing out a hypothetical inheritance loophole in gay marriage is not equating homosexuality to incest as your title implies (i.e. when you compare two things you are trying to find the similarities/differences between them). Titles like these misinform people on what he is actually saying (especially for those individuals who will not read the whole article). Call Jeremy Irons out on his BS just make sure it is the right BS.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515f5e7869bedd5875000001Jersey JeffFri, 05 Apr 2013 19:30:00 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515f5e7869bedd5875000001
awwwwww, what's the matter willyfuckface? feeling a little defensive? why is that? did I hit the nail right on the head? are you constantly thinking about having sex with animals and children? why don't you get some much needed help before you wind up somebody's bitch in prison.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515f480f69bedd553a000019WillFri, 05 Apr 2013 17:54:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515f480f69bedd553a000019
only those minutes of the day when your debauched lifestyle isn't being rammed down our throats. I know, "You're queer, and you're here!" but "incest is best" don't you know? Beastiality with congeniality! or Necrophilia will really thrill-ia!
How am I doing with the debaucho-slogans? Whatcha' bet one will be coming to a YMCA hot tub near you Jeffy?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515f13baecad04c611000011Jersey JeffFri, 05 Apr 2013 14:11:06 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515f13baecad04c611000011
you conservatives certainly are obsessed with pedophilia and bestiality. does any minute of the day go by when you're not thinking about it?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ee59f6bb3f7f52d00000aWillFri, 05 Apr 2013 10:54:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ee59f6bb3f7f52d00000a
Jeffey, they were saying the same thing 40 years ago about homosexuality. My how we've progressed. Now stop namecalling and get with the program. What was once called debauchery, and "sick in the head" has now been turned into a virtue. The University of Tennessee recently had a sex seminar weekend where all kinds of sexual expressions were considered and folks were called on not to judge. Beastiality was one such expression. In fact, I've even begun to find the topic raised, "Is adult/child sex necessarily bad?"
So don't you see? We're progressing in our openness and inclusivity. Indeed, it won't be long now till we begin hearing of pedophobes or incestophobes or necrophobes....you know, those intolerant folk who want to deny my civil right to screw a corpse?
Ain't society grand?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ec996ecad04ca04000017Maffin ClaskFri, 05 Apr 2013 08:54:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ec996ecad04ca04000017
Two brothers can marry each other... That also means that men will want to marry the best person they have EVER met. A clone of themselves.... That's incest? If a boy has a vasectomy, he should be able to marry his sister too, as procreation is then IMPOSSIBLE, right???? Welcome to the "Brave New World(Made To Order)"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ec02769bedd5f5d000025Wood Allen is precidentFri, 05 Apr 2013 08:14:31 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ec02769bedd5f5d000025
Your comment at 9:38 appers to have no contradictory argument. Woody Allen married his adopted daughter. Not sure what distresses you about legal precidents.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515eaa24eab8ea1c4c00001dLucas Fernández SeivaneFri, 05 Apr 2013 06:40:36 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515eaa24eab8ea1c4c00001d
The opinion of both the editor and many comentators is both ignorand and anglocentric, ignorant of both the history and world customs. Not surprising in pseudoliberals, but shameful in this publication.
I am pro equal marriage (and I come from one of the first countries to legalize it), but the interviewer gets it all wrong. Jeremy Irons has an extremely good point (even if his example was the most extreme), and not only for gay marriage.
In Catholic countries, for instance. marriages between uncles and nieces (or aunts and nephews) are legal; as well as between cousins, while in the US (or at least in many states) they are not. But the only reason is "moral" or religious, thus customary, and thus changeable; furthermore if one admits a flexible definition of marriage.
The only reason (out of moral prejudice and religious) to avoid marriage between cousins or uncles and nieces is to avoid slightly higher genetic rate of diseases. But between both male or female cousins there is no single reason to restrict it. It is only the anglocentric "yuck factor" against it.
The extreme example that Mr. Irons puts is the clear example that the State puts limits in who and when can marry, even in the heterosexual case. Sadly, the vast majority of the commentors have not reflected in the legal, moral and social consequences that they carry, and if they are sensible or not.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e7c716bb3f7b568000008Hilmi A.RFri, 05 Apr 2013 03:25:37 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e7c716bb3f7b568000008
I'd give him a point for being honest and not afraid of speaking up.
Remember guys, whilst you blasted him for being anti-gay, you have to respect his opinion. If not, then its hypocrisy.
Plus he present the argument in a logical basis. Better than having someone shouted "I HATE GAY BECAUSE BIBLE TOLD ME SO"
Plus he came from a totally different generation...... whilst our younger generation dont mind homosexual, totally different story for them lolhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e43776bb3f77a7a000011pinkobaneThu, 04 Apr 2013 23:22:31 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e43776bb3f77a7a000011
For the last time, it's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve..http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e395569bedd2a1c000022pinkobaneThu, 04 Apr 2013 22:39:17 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e395569bedd2a1c000022
God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Actually, I'm not even that religious, but even the idea that this is seriously being considered is one of the most ludicrious things ever, and because it's so coooool (read: zeitgeist) to be a fudge-packer now, the politicians are afraid to stand up to the homosexual acceptance trend, probably because there are so many other bigger issues. There just can't be AIDS 2.0 soon enough....http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e2b0169bedd6401000001AnokaThu, 04 Apr 2013 21:38:09 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e2b0169bedd6401000001
ROTFLOL!!!!
"Sack of Shit for Brains," "Idiot," neither even comes close to describing you.
I can only hope you have not and WILL NOT IN THE FUTURE, procreate.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e286f69beddd877000003Jersey JeffThu, 04 Apr 2013 21:27:11 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e286f69beddd877000003
anyone who thinks those issues are incest, pedophilia and/or bestiality has something wrong with them.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e283569beddd977000010troobleThu, 04 Apr 2013 21:26:13 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e283569beddd977000010
This guy REALLY hates the Federal Reserve. Didn't you see Die Hard III?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e27d1ecad04ea58000001troobleThu, 04 Apr 2013 21:24:33 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e27d1ecad04ea58000001
It's not legalistic to want a simple repeal of a federal statute like DOMA, which didn't even exist 10 years ago. People seek recourse through legal means. That's why our society is peaceful and prosperous. You don't want the alternative.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e27486bb3f7854a000014troobleThu, 04 Apr 2013 21:22:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e27486bb3f7854a000014
It's spelled kow-tow. Cow-tow is what happened last week when your truck broke down.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e26ec6bb3f7bc4c000003troobleThu, 04 Apr 2013 21:20:44 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e26ec6bb3f7bc4c000003
I don't see much of a crusade against bigamy or cousin marriage, because those things occur on reality TV every day in rural America, and the red states LOVE IT. Also 19 children. RED STATES LOVE THAT.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e267eeab8eabd33000004troobleThu, 04 Apr 2013 21:18:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e267eeab8eabd33000004
Key word being "adopted'. Soon Yi never stopped being a ward of the state while she was a minor. Adoptive parents rights are always subject to the intervention of the state. And Soon-Yi was adopted by Mia Farrow, not Woody Allen.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e261a69bedd7774000002troobleThu, 04 Apr 2013 21:17:14 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e261a69bedd7774000002
Incest laws are not specifically written to stop gay relationships, but could certainly extended to that. Incest laws are NOT written to stop inbreeding. A menopausal mother is not permitted to marry her still-fertile son.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e25b2ecad047356000001troobleThu, 04 Apr 2013 21:15:30 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e25b2ecad047356000001
Redford cares for humanity, this guy is just a closed mind.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e25356bb3f7964a000001troobleThu, 04 Apr 2013 21:13:25 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e25356bb3f7964a000001
Good on Zepps to call it 'a complete red herring'.
Gays seem more responsible and family-oriented these days than straights. They seem a lot happier, tellya that.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e1a3f69bedd4555000008AnokaThu, 04 Apr 2013 20:26:39 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e1a3f69bedd4555000008
What's wrong with polygamy? If they all did it in the Bible, it's good enough for me. Bring it on!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e175becad044638000006Normal GregThu, 04 Apr 2013 20:14:19 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e175becad044638000006
If you read the Dear Prudence advice columns on Slate, there was a pair of twin brothers who were gay and planned to spend the rest of their life together. Prudence consented to their plan. To try to pretend burning to ash the historical definitions of marriage doesn't bring up a whole range of other issues is.....not being honest at all.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e10aa6bb3f7e61c000026CEBThu, 04 Apr 2013 19:45:46 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e10aa6bb3f7e61c000026
Damn, This shit is getting old. Marriage between two people of the same sex is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of, not to mention downright disgusting. AND I dont much give a damn if you like it or not.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e0d5b6bb3f7cb1c000003gay investorThu, 04 Apr 2013 19:31:39 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e0d5b6bb3f7cb1c000003
Idiot.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e04b4eab8ea5569000008Woody Allen is precidentThu, 04 Apr 2013 18:54:44 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515e04b4eab8ea5569000008
Woody Allen divorced his wife and remaired his adopted daughter (that he and and his wife were parents for). That is legal which I would have guessed otherwise.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dfec46bb3f7a27c00000eJersey JeffThu, 04 Apr 2013 18:29:24 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dfec46bb3f7a27c00000e
anyone who immediately starts thinking or talking about incest, pedophilia, bestiality or necrophilia whenever the issue of gay marriage comes up is sick in the damn head. only a demented mind would have such thoughts when the topic is about couples in love who want to get married.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dfac7ecad045f0100000fKCRobThu, 04 Apr 2013 18:12:23 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dfac7ecad045f0100000f
The point here is not whether or not allowing gays to marry is a bad thing (it's not). The point is that we no longer have the cultural confidence to put a limit on anything.
I favor SSM but I also understand that in our hyper-legalistic, whatever-is-your-bag, don't-judge-me culture, we have no way of saying "marriage is the union of two adults unrelated by blood with the following rights and responsibilities." Full stop.
If we did then the "why not allow polygamous or incestuous?" question wouldn't be relevant. The intent of the left in this debate, like most debates these days, is to make it impossible to have an intelligent, two-sided debate. There are legitimate concerns about SSM but to the left, the concerns are hate and bigotry... we we're dumb enough to be cowed by these labels so freely thrown around.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515df9d069bedd0b05000002aly can't thinkThu, 04 Apr 2013 18:08:16 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515df9d069bedd0b05000002
aly can't think for herself - pointless questionhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/515df99c6bb3f7ec7100002aaly biatchThu, 04 Apr 2013 18:07:24 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515df99c6bb3f7ec7100002a
aly's a biatch ....... a sheeple biatch to be slapped around as the elites pleasehttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/515df8edecad04097e000010hi thereThu, 04 Apr 2013 18:04:29 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515df8edecad04097e000010
faghttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/515df1e76bb3f7dc6400000eRockwellThu, 04 Apr 2013 17:34:31 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515df1e76bb3f7dc6400000e
It's really quite hilarious to watch gay marriage supporters do their intellectual gymnastics when the issue of polygamy comes up. When it's polygamy, the argument against is that it's not socially desirable. When someone says that redefining the entire concept of marriage might not be socially desirable, it becomes a civil rights issue.
The obvious solution is to get rid of any sort of government role in marriage. Consenting adults should be able to enter into contracts with consenting adults, and if you want to call it marriage, knock yourself out. Just don't sue me for refusing to call it marriage.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515df0d769bedda16c00000fgay investorThu, 04 Apr 2013 17:29:59 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515df0d769bedda16c00000f
The heterosexuals probably don't like being compared to such things either. Even as they are engaging in it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ded1869bedde360000010martelThu, 04 Apr 2013 17:14:00 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ded1869bedde360000010
Aly...it's you and your ilk that are ruining this country....not Jeremy Irons and his 'odd' interview.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515deb10ecad04a761000010ha ha ha ha Ha Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:05:20 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515deb10ecad04a761000010
People are dying of starvation and all this fucked up country can talk about is fuck ass.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515de4a3eab8ea1e1f000015TTXNETThu, 04 Apr 2013 16:37:55 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515de4a3eab8ea1e1f000015
"Neither you nor I know what will be considered acceptable in 50 years.
Continually redefining terms, renders them so they have no meaning at all."
This is always true when you and I set the term for such definitions. Marriage, was not created by men however. The concept was provided by someone else. But of course once that "person" is removed from the picture, then we can define as we like. The consequences however, is always not palatable.
I'm not sure how else you define family, other then a group of related people with love for one another, and each looks for the other. But a gang has its own definition as well. regardless of how they define it...I'm not liking the consequences of it. Of course a drunk and abusive father, who's wife is a drug fiend and the kids rob, rape and steal is a family too, but they are not not living up to the true definition.
Thinking about 50 years out....kinda gives ya the shivers, don't it?!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515de3e26bb3f78f4c000007jamesxxxxxxxThu, 04 Apr 2013 16:34:42 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515de3e26bb3f78f4c000007
I'm not sure if I agree with him -
- but I find it refreshing that someone so famous - and especially in entertainment - is willing to voice his opinion on the matter, that does not cow-tow the fascist gay agenda of what must be said, and what must not be said.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ddd216bb3f7c341000005The problem isThu, 04 Apr 2013 16:05:53 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ddd216bb3f7c341000005
Redefining marriage sets the precedent that the definition is flexible.
Neither you nor I know what will be considered acceptable in 50 years.
Continually redefining terms, renders them so they have no meaning at all.
The response When Zepps responded "There are laws against incest," Irons explained, "It's not incest between men. Incest is there to protect us from having inbreeding, but men don't breed, so incest wouldn't cover that." is enlightening.
The example given was a man and his son. They can't breed any more than two non-related gay men. If the rationale is to prevent inbreeding, there is no logical reason a man can't marry his son. Opposite sex children, incest bad. Same sex children?
Society will do what it wants, and I don't really care, but there are at least as many logical arguments against same sex marriage as there are for. But like many topics, it can't be rationally discussed without both sides going bonkers.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ddc65ecad04b24b000001shall7070Thu, 04 Apr 2013 16:02:45 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ddc65ecad04b24b000001
obviously, he must now be destroyed
get on it, Business Insiderhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ddba5ecad041047000016disgustinggThu, 04 Apr 2013 15:59:33 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ddba5ecad041047000016
agreed with irons - gay is plain disgustinghttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ddb7cecad044747000003iamageniusThu, 04 Apr 2013 15:58:52 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515ddb7cecad044747000003
It's a simple question Aly. How do you parse allowing gay marriage, but disallow "icky" marriages?
Anyone?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd963ecad04b140000009WillThu, 04 Apr 2013 15:49:55 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd963ecad04b140000009
It's interesting, and predictable, when the comparison is made between homosexuality and incest, or homosexuality and beastiality, or homosexuality and pedophilia...etc., all of the pro-homosexual folks are quick to show up with fangs showing and claws drawn for battle. It's as if a nerve has been hit, and they do their darndest to say "there is no comparison, and any attempt at comparing these is a demonstration of stupid logic, or hate.
Really? If sexuality is such a broad band kind of thing (Hence, LGBTQ...and whatever other letter will be added), why do those who tell us this suddenly get all bothered when asked why "broad" doesn't also include incest, pedophilia, beastiality...etc.?
I think they know. They don't like it when their debauchery is called for what it is, but let another debauchery underscore their own....well, now...that's right out!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd9286bb3f7cd38000003gay investorThu, 04 Apr 2013 15:48:56 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd9286bb3f7cd38000003
"Could a father not marry his son?"
Most fathers are absolutely delighted to learn that their sons are gay... so much so that they want to marry them right away...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd8ebecad04c342000012He's absolutely rightThu, 04 Apr 2013 15:47:55 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd8ebecad04c342000012
He's 100% correct. That's the danger of legalizaing social ills like gay marriage. By redefining marriage, you open a way to legalize incest, polygamy, beastiality, and ultimately, we lose the pillar of the nuclear family unit on which our society is based.
SAY NO TO REDEFINING MARRIAGE! Ehttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd850ecad049840000014WilliamThu, 04 Apr 2013 15:45:20 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd850ecad049840000014
But you take what Robert Redford says as gospel, right?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd827eab8ea4204000012MartynThu, 04 Apr 2013 15:44:39 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd827eab8ea4204000012
What if you screw your son's fiancee and drive him to suicide?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd7fa6bb3f77e34000031cmonsterThu, 04 Apr 2013 15:43:54 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd7fa6bb3f77e34000031
Somebody please make it stop...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd7f76bb3f79d36000006Downhill from hereThu, 04 Apr 2013 15:43:51 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd7f76bb3f79d36000006
Ask yourself this: Would you rather have him tell you a lie (so you would think he's a really cool, in touch guy) or would you rather have him tell you how he really feels?
Like so many opinions on PC hot issues, you think if you can shut people up or make them lie that you somehow have made them change their opinions.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd7076bb3f73432000016hallett7Thu, 04 Apr 2013 15:39:51 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd7076bb3f73432000016
Ok, Here's the question.
Marriage as defined as: (please fill in your definition)http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd4fb6bb3f73432000006Lucius ModernusThu, 04 Apr 2013 15:31:07 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd4fb6bb3f73432000006
poor guy is clearly 64 and out of touch. too bad as well, b/c he's a great actor and i would have preferred his opinion to be on the right side of karma and more based on a having an open mind (which he clearly doesn't, as he's defending what marriage is "for him" and how gay marriage might "debase that"...what crock of sh*t). unfortunately for him, i ain't watching anything he's in from now on...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd04ceab8eafa71000004andy robertsThu, 04 Apr 2013 15:11:08 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/515dd04ceab8eafa71000004
i guess the theme of the week is "bestiality"
join in folks