tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3314153586740792258.post6495911994285026906..comments2008-08-04T21:01:59.961-07:00Comments on XX Blaze: Stripping is not a fucking revolutionJennhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05333226493312516551noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3314153586740792258.post-85956809466324468692008-07-30T11:57:00.000-07:002008-07-30T11:57:00.000-07:00Hell yeah, buggle, I'm cranky with you. I really d...Hell yeah, buggle, I'm cranky with you. I really don't like that any exploration of the supply or demand side of sex work is met with the "stripping is feminism!"<BR/><BR/>I obviously mistakenly thought that in your original comment, when you state "being a woman is hard enough without other women constantly screaming at me, trying to enforce the patriarchy on me" that you were addressing sex workers rather than pro-porn feminists. Unless the stripper herself is flying off the hook about how horrible you are to dare to question her justifications, then I don't think animosity towards sex workers is positive or appropriate. Animosity towards people that berate questions of the patriarchy in the context of sex work, especially if they are not sex workers themselves, need to shut up and sit the fuck down.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05333226493312516551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3314153586740792258.post-47349183934753264642008-07-30T11:48:00.000-07:002008-07-30T11:48:00.000-07:00Yeah, I mean, if someone wants to strip, ok, strip...Yeah, I mean, if someone wants to strip, ok, strip. I just get sick of this concept that stripping is feminist now, somehow. I of course, always, blame the P. But I still get mad at the enforcers. I can't tell you how many times I've been yelled at by other feminists for daring to question the whole "porn is feminist and so is stripping as long as the woman CHOOSES it" idea. So yeah, I get cranky. <BR/><BR/>Maybe I need to reread your post though :)Bugglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11702831512480053629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3314153586740792258.post-86848089114119276622008-07-30T10:17:00.000-07:002008-07-30T10:17:00.000-07:00Ah, I do see what you mean Nine Deuce. Removing th...Ah, I do see what you mean Nine Deuce. Removing the questioning of strippers and sex workers from my critique is rather like infantilizing, isn't it? I shall downgrade my opinion to state that discussion of sex work with sex workers is needed and very relevant, but their supposed "crimes", if someone was to assume that they are doing something morally wrong (and from your prior posts, I get the impression that you don't think so), are much less than those suspected of pimps and johns.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05333226493312516551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3314153586740792258.post-9662049114613540732008-07-30T10:06:00.000-07:002008-07-30T10:06:00.000-07:00They're eligible for questioning, too. Pisaquari b...They're eligible for questioning, too. Pisaquari brought this idea up to me and it made a lot of sense: feminists are sometimes loathe to question the actions/ideas/choices of sex workers. Isn't that treating them like babies? Isn't that a more serious denial of their agency than asking them to discuss or explain something? I think it is (obviously).rageagainstthemanchine.comhttp://rageagainstthemanchine.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3314153586740792258.post-90394844462871800272008-07-30T07:52:00.000-07:002008-07-30T07:52:00.000-07:00Perhaps. Although, I was less interested in attack...Perhaps. Although, I was less interested in attacking women for stripping than recognizing that the usual display of "sex positivism" is not revolutionary. There really isn't anything intrinsically <I>wrong</I> with pole dancing. What is the nasty part of the equation, however, is how the P views these women (whores), how vulnerable they are to crimes, and the biases and bigotries of their audience.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05333226493312516551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3314153586740792258.post-56396961394720656562008-07-30T07:29:00.000-07:002008-07-30T07:29:00.000-07:00Yep, yep yep. Why is this SO damn hard for people ...Yep, yep yep. Why is this SO damn hard for people to get? They don't want to get it, because that would force them to really look at their lives, and their bullshit justifications. I swear, being a woman is hard enough without other women constantly screaming at me, trying to enforce the patriarchy on me.Bugglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11702831512480053629noreply@blogger.com