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Re: SEC Football Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by dabvu2498

There's some co-ordinated effort between the schools, the league and the TV networks.

The networks will dictate that there are at least a couple decent conference matchups after the first week of the season in order to fill those TV slots. (ESPN even convinced the conference, Vandy and SC to move their game to this Thursday night for a primetime showing).

Week 3 is an especially weak set of games for the SEC. I'm sure that's why UT and UF are in that slot.

The other issue with UF's schedule is that for a while, their "tough" OOC game has been FSU, last game of the year. So, unless they're playing a conference game week 1 (unlikely), that first week will be a cuppie.

Exactly, it's a lot easier to schedule a new OOC game each year when your rivals are in conference, Florida doesn't have that advantage.

The SEC is running the show this year though with every schools scheduling due to expansion, it ended up being who had off weeks where in regards to OOC schools, some schools got the shaft, some got the cream of the cup cakes (Georgia) nobody at Florida is happy about the conference schedule being done so early.

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I think you're underestimating Bray. He could be the difference maker in a bounceback year for UT. They return a bunch of starters and were decimated by injuries last year after the UC game where they manhandled an excellent Bearcat team. Simply put the team that lost to UK was a shell of the one that beat UC

For Dooley's sake, I hope that you are right. I'm simply not a fan of slow, immobile QBs at the College Level, unless they are surrounded by plenty of speed at the other skill positions or are supplemented with another athletic QB/wildcat QB. A slow-footed QB works well at USC or Bama, where lack of speed at RB and WR is never a problem. Unfortunately, that doesn't appear to be the case for the Vols this year.

Also, athletic QBs can run Pro-Style offenses at the College level. Jake Locker and Jason Campbell come to mind. Lest we forget, athletic Tee Martin QBd the Vols to the national championship running virtually the same system as Payton Manning, with occasional wrinkles to take advantage of Martin's athleticism. Jim Chaney, who was also Drew Bree's OC at Purdue, could have molded Boyd into a dangerous weapon, IMO. It was a bad decision by Kiffen-who, of course, doesn't have to deal with the ramifications-anyway you look at it.

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Re: SEC Football Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by Revering4Blue

For Dooley's sake, I hope that you are right. I'm simply not a fan of slow, immobile QBs at the College Level, unless they are surrounded by plenty of speed at the other skill positions or are supplemented with another athletic QB/wildcat QB. A slow-footed QB works well at USC or Bama, where lack of speed at RB and WR is never a problem. Unfortunately, that doesn't appear to be the case for the Vols this year.

Also, athletic QBs can run Pro-Style offenses at the College level. Jake Locker and Jason Campbell come to mind. Lest we forget, athletic Tee Martin QBd the Vols to the national championship running virtually the same system as Payton Manning, with occasional wrinkles to take advantage of Martin's athleticism. Jim Chaney, who was also Drew Bree's OC at Purdue, could have molded Boyd into a dangerous weapon, IMO. It was a bad decision by Kiffen-who, of course, doesn't have to deal with the ramifications-anyway you look at it.

I agree with you that at the college level, I prefer athletic QBs. Guys like Peyton, Marino and Brees made better NFL players than college. Arguably the best college QBs were Vince Young and Tim Tebow. I don't know that Boyd is being talked about in those terms but it'll be interesting to see how he does.

Right now publications are calling Tyler Bray the best QB in the SEC so he's not chopped liver. I'd argue that he fits UT's pro style offense better than Boyd. He also does have weapons:

You could argue junior Tyler Bray is the best quarterback in the SEC, and the educated conference fan would be hard pressed to disagree. It’s true Bray has yet to stay healthy enough to play a full slate

Don’t look now, but in 2012 Bray might get one of the best receiver corps in the SEC, if not the nation, along with an offensive line that returns nearly everyone and now has more than 100 career starts under its collective belt

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Vandy got beat at home by a better team.

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Re: SEC Football Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by WDE

You can't just say South Carolina was the "better team."

Yes, I can.

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