Alternatively, you can install 20180521_update.zip file via the "Install Update" button in the Help > About panel instead of dragging and dropping.

Important! Please complete all your translation projects in your current CafeTran version before updating.

What's new:

The frequently-requested layout that integrates editors and the grid - see View > Window Layout > Layout 6 Compact. Although it is recommended for reviewing your translations, some translators might wish to use it for translating too, as it is a popular layout in other tools.

alain

Igor Kmitowski

said
10 months ago

> Works perfectly here after some personal layout adjustments.

I am happy to hear it. If you wish you can attach a screenshot of it whenever convenient.

tre

said
10 months ago

Indeed the layout is really great, but needs some individual fixing if you are not a friend (yet) of the matchboard. The major problem I see is that there is no indication of the segment state (nor of the number) in the segment itself. My first, second and third thought was that there is somehow an empty segment above. This indication is still rather misleading (and it takes really much space). If not mentioned yet: This layout is first choice for all screens with a lower resolution.

The thing to have the remaining grid (the following segments) as a tab (that can be superseeded by any other tab) seems a bit unusual at first, but it is really an intelligent idea. Well done.

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Igor Kmitowski

said
10 months ago

Thanks! The current segment status indication (in the Layout 6) directly above the editors takes a bit of space. I wil experiment with placing it in the editors toolbar and see if it looks better.

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Igor Kmitowski

said
10 months ago

> the Vertical Editor between the two parts of the grid

That's en excellent idea. I still cannot understand the preference for their horizontal (side by side) placement seen in other CATs. To me, it is so unnatural to look sideways.

alain

said
10 months ago

Igor, just a note to say that I removed my previous post that contained a screenshot, since there is a link to this thread from Proz.com... and that makes the posts (and screenshots) visible to a lot of people.

Not that my screenshot was very confidential, but I just felt a bit uncomfortable with this...

It would be nice if the Freshdesk forum could display screenshots only to registered persons, not to visitors. I know by experience that other forums have this option in the administration panel.

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Igor Kmitowski

said
10 months ago

The new build (2018052201) of update 8 is available. There is a slight change in highlighting of the current segment status for the new Layout 6 Compact. Now, the status marking of the currently-edited segment is limited to its status box only. The previous highlighting of the whole row gave the impression that the edited segment was empty.

Please download and install the new build of the update 8 as described in the announcement post above. Thank you.

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Igor Kmitowski

said
10 months ago

There is a new build (2018052301) of update 8 available. In this update, the search back and forward arrows are moved from the top search bar to the search field below. The change allows for narrowing the main window for even more compact view. For example:

1. Set the View > Window layout > Layout 6 Compact and undock the Matchboard to the tabs below.

3. Resize the main windows as much as you can to see how compact CafeTran can be.

Please download and install the new build of the update 8 as described in the announcement post above.

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tre

said
10 months ago

Nice, but:

the problem of seeing the segment state in a reasonable manner still persists (it is now better than before, but far from really obvious)

same for a quite disturbing view when starting a project, maybe the editors should start at the top and move down during the first x segments, the same for finishing a project

when using the horizontal editor, the separator between the two segments is by default asymmetrical compared to the grid - would it not be nice to have them aligned automatically, although this means in the current state that the target segment is a bit bigger

this would be a nice starting point to have custom layouts introduced (quite cumbersome to have this realized with templates

same for more drag and drop - my favorite docked side consists of several TMs and TBs joined horizontally, but to change this package is not so easy (undock, eventually disjoin etc.)

alain

said
10 months ago

Two problems here:

1. When I reopen a project, the Editor doesn't go back to where it was when I closed the project.

2. (Not specific to the new update) In the screenshot below, what's the meaning of the orange frame? Or what's the difference between 1984 (no orange frame) and 1985?

tre

said
10 months ago

When switching off the toolbars (what makes even more effect with a vertical segment editors, this setting remains valid through all layouts, even the templates. For me this is fine, others might be disturbed. This is not really a systematical approach, is it?

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Igor Kmitowski

said
10 months ago

> the Editor doesn't go back to where it was when I closed the project.

If you mean returning to the last edited segment, it does go back for CafeTran projects. It also returns to the last edited segment in projects created in other CAT tools if you return to them directly after closing, that is, not cutting in with another project. Or just type the last segment number in the Search field and press Enter to set it for translation/edition.

> what's the meaning of the orange frame?

The orange frame means the currently-edited segment just like in other layouts where the whole row is orange-framed.