scout.com reports packers have offered 1st and 4th for LJ!

Scout.com is reporting that the Packers have offered a first-round pick and a fourth-round pick to the Chiefs for running back Larry Johnson.

If true, the report is a stunner. Packers G.M. Ted Thompson doesn't like to pay big money to strangers to the team, and it's going to take really big money to keep Johnson beyond 2007, the last year of his rookie deal.

And if an offer that big has been made to the Chiefs for Johnson's rights, the Packers surely have reached a tentative agreement with Johnson's agent on a long-term deal. Otherwise, the Packers would be picking up Johnson for only one season before having to either use the franchise tag or let him walk away.

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I think it'd believe this one a lot more than the Rodgers for Moss one. Thompson must really believe L.J. is THE guy to carry the offense when Favre retires and maybe is THE guy to get this team in the playoffs. If so then the report does make sense. However I hate to get my hopes up.

37 touchdowns in two years is hard not to like. Top it off with over 4,000 yards from scrimmage in those two years as well. That's combined. If this is true it certainly would be the BIG move that a lot of people been wanting Thompson to make and a bold one that could define his career as Packers GM.

I would assume that if the Chiefs accept the deal then the last thing to do is get a contract done with L.J. and the deal would then be finalized. NFL Live starts in about one hour. If this is true they will surely pickup on the story.

Johnson wants a HUGE contract, somewhere in the $80mil area. IMO, NO PLAYER is worth that! If TT pays it, he's putting his head in a noose. I, for one, just pray it doesn't happen. Why give up precious draft picks for a high mileage guy? He's a "me first" guy and not what we need in GB.

yea porky your right his production is hard to ignore.... ive just never seen anything he does as special. when you see film its justhim running up the middle in the Cheifs run happy system. and when anyone does that they are gonna rack up the yards.

But honestly we arent giving up that much. He basically becomes our 1st round draft pick and any money we would have spent on drafting Lynch can now go to his salary. the 4th is not a huge loss i dont guess... but Ted givin up draft picks ... wow.

If this were to happen, the guaranteed money will be around the going rate which is 20 to 25 million over 3 to 4 years, so use him when he still has legs and then make some decisions in a couple of years on him. LT's contract which probably would be similar has I think 22 million guar'd over 3 years, with little cap hit to release him then.

Unless you hit your draft picks, it costs money to contend in this league. Plus this would give the Packers a nationally known face if Favre calls it quits after this year.

Factor in the fact this is a weak first round class, how much value really is in our pick this year?

If this were to happen, the guaranteed money will be around the going rate which is 20 to 25 million over 3 to 4 years, so use him when he still has legs and then make some decisions in a couple of years on him. LT's contract which probably would be similar has I think 22 million guar'd over 3 years, with little cap hit to release him then.

Unless you hit your draft picks, it costs money to contend in this league. Plus this would give the Packers a nationally known face if Favre calls it quits after this year.

Factor in the fact this is a weak first round class, how much value really is in our pick this year?

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You hit it on the head with the last line. I just don't see great value at #16 this year. Someone could jump up and have a fabulous career but there's not much steam with that pick IMO.

i think this LJ deal may have popped up because of Adrian Petersons injury deal... meaning Lynch will be gone before we can get him. Which means theres nothing worth the money at 16... ive read on espn that Green bay would desperatly looking to move back and as warhawk said,,,, not a whole lot of bait to dangle there at 16... so maybe TT really did offer our first.

I was about to point that out, there are not a lot of players regarded as worthy first round prospects in this draft, if the Packers think all the players they regard as worthy first round picks, why not trade our first for Larry Johnson.

However I think a 1st and a 4th would be a lot for only Larry Johnson.

If we got Larry Johnson and their 2nd or 3rd pick I would be more than happy to trade our 1st and 4th.

If we get rid of our 1st I think Ted has a lot of tricks up his sleeve and he thinks this is either a really weak draft or a draft he can get the most talent out of any pick he has. That doesn't make sense, when I'm done working I'll try to remember to make more sense of that lol

why is everyone so concerned him the deal he wants? he wants close to LT money and he is easily the second best back in the NFL who has 1700+ yards the last 2 years. He is what 27 but he really only have like 2 (maybe 3 because of the amount on carries) years on his tires. he played behind a declining o-line, Give the man money and you will be creating a monster!

why is everyone so concerned him the deal he wants? he wants close to LT money and he is easily the second best back in the NFL who has 1700+ yards the last 2 years. He is what 27 but he really only have like 2 (maybe 3 because of the amount on carries) years on his tires. he played behind a declining o-line, Give the man money and you will be creating a monster!

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I tried to make that argument yesterday, why everyone is so down on LJ. I say make the deal and let him run.

If we get rid of our 1st I think Ted has a lot of tricks up his sleeve and he thinks this is either a really weak draft or a draft he can get the most talent out of any pick he has. That doesn't make sense, when I'm done working I'll try to remember to make more sense of that lol

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I was actually starting to resolve myself to what pick we could make at #16 because TT wouldn't normally do something like this. When he said the other day "a couple" of teams had called about trading I said to myself that ain't good. Not nearly enough interest.

If this is, in fact is true, I believe TT has done what many of us here have basically done trying to figure this draft out. Thrown our hands in the air and said "I give".

I know I have been really grinding trying to figure out how we can expect to get a whole lot better thru this draft. Not enough fire power for me.

I mean we hear talk about Greg freaking Olsen for crying out loud. The first TE taken last year could pick him up, throw him out of the stadium, and run and catch him before he hit the ground.

Last years talent blows this year's right out of the water. Next years will too. This is a sandwich year for the draft.