This is a discussion on Force Motors SUV to be launched. EDIT: Launched @ 11lac Ex-showroom Mumbai within The Indian Car Scene, part of the BHP India category; Sirs
I am trying to clear the dust and get a better perspective for myself
F1 the SUV without 4x4 ...

Sirs
I am trying to clear the dust and get a better perspective for myself
F1 the SUV without 4x4 / AWD
Chinese products do have reliability if chosen properly, and the dated looks do not matter - see how the fortuner is selling!
As for the XUV500 its a buck toothed and needs an orthodontist with a buzz saw. Has any one heard of cheetah DNA in a SUV...... could only be the work of a wannabe designer, with delusions of grandeur. Seems that the team went all the way to Kenya to study cheetas.....who are you kidding guys, think you are National Geographic? If your wishes are cheetas, apes would be driving the XUV500.
On a serious note, ground clearance, interiors and features are all reminiscent of M&M trying to ape the ARIA and come up better, in that they have succeeded.
The search for the affordable SUV is on.....

It looks like you are not a highway traveler. Top speed is definitely a concern for me especially when I need to travel on highways.

I travel a fair bit on the highway on my Cedia. However, the point I was trying to make was that I would not push an SUV (with a high stance) as much as I would push a sedan. An SUV will not feel as planted as a low stance Sedan.

Instead of chasing a crowded and matured SUV space why not make a lifestyle pickup where theres little competition. I believe theres still demand for a VFM lifestyle pickup (Mahindras offerings are either crude or ugly, Xenon is expensive to top other niggles).

Its supposedly developed with a polytechnic in Hong Kong no less, which is a good thing. At least this ways no one drags the Lotus name for developing such a dud. In Foday's own words (Delightful reading):

'FODAY, developed the pickup cooperatively with the Hong Kong Polytechnic University, have independent intellectual property rights for the design. The style is incorporated the supernatural marrow of design of the European car, the appearance is beautiful, rate as the most “handsome” pickup in domestic. In the aspects of designing, full utilizing aerodynamics and human engineering. It makes more humanization.'

I travel a fair bit on the highway on my Cedia. However, the point I was trying to make was that I would not push an SUV (with a high stance) as much as I would push a sedan. An SUV will not feel as planted as a low stance Sedan.

Last week when I was on highway, an Endeavour over took me. The estimated speed of that Endeavor was 160 kmph. If Endeavour can travel at that speed, why cant F1 with a Merc Engine?

Last week when I was on highway, an Endeavour over took me. The estimated speed of that Endeavor was 160 kmph. If Endeavour can travel at that speed, why cant F1 with a Merc Engine?

I am not saying it will not be able to travel at 160 or even beyond and I am not doubting its engine. I am saying that I would not be comfortable pushing it at those speeds due to its high stance. If I buy an F1 it will not be for its top speed but its ride quality and ability to take abuse. I can make out that top speed is important to you and if you are comfortable doing those speeds then good luck!

Last edited by Amartya : 17th October 2011 at 09:39.
Reason: Removed the video from the quoted post.Kindly remove those in the future. Thanks and see you around.

I am not saying it will not be able to travel at 160 or even beyond and I am not doubting its engine. I am saying that I would not be comfortable pushing it at those speeds due to its high stance. If I buy an F1 it will not be for its top speed but its ride quality and ability to take abuse. I can make out that top speed is important to you and if you are comfortable doing those speeds then good luck!

Actually Cediafan, the Endys stance is proportionate to the body. I'm going to share a shocking fact - the Endy at high speeds will have a closer CoG (Centre of Gravity) from Axle to Asphalt than the Cedia!!!

Sirs
I am trying to clear the dust and get a better perspective for myself
F1 the SUV without 4x4 / AWD

JUST THE SUV LOOKS YOU MEAN?

Chinese products do have reliability if chosen properly, and the dated looks do not matter - see how the fortuner is selling!

NOT SO TRUE OF TOTALLY CHINESE CARS BUT YES MOST OF THE OTHER STUFF IN THIS WORLD IN TODAY MANUFACTURED IN CHINA

As for the XUV500 its a buck toothed and needs an orthodontist with a buzz saw. Has any one heard of cheetah DNA in a SUV...... could only be the work of a wannabe designer, with delusions of grandeur. Seems that the team went all the way to Kenya to study cheetas.....who are you kidding guys, think you are National Geographic? If your wishes are cheetas, apes would be driving the XUV500.

SEE THE NUMBER OF TBHP GUYS WHO ARE BOOKING / LOVING THE XUV CHEETAH OR NOT
On a serious note, ground clearance, interiors and features are all reminiscent of M&M trying to ape the ARIA and come up better, in that they have succeeded.

THE QUALITY AND SIZE DOES SEEM A BIT APART BUT YES AS VFM ..
The search for the affordable SUV is on.....

Sirs
I am trying to clear the dust and get a better perspective for myself
F1 the SUV without 4x4 / AWD
Chinese products do have reliability if chosen properly, and the dated looks do not matter - see how the fortuner is selling!
As for the XUV500 its a buck toothed and needs an orthodontist with a buzz saw. Has any one heard of cheetah DNA in a SUV...... could only be the work of a wannabe designer, with delusions of grandeur. Seems that the team went all the way to Kenya to study cheetas.....who are you kidding guys, think you are National Geographic? If your wishes are cheetas, apes would be driving the XUV500.
On a serious note, ground clearance, interiors and features are all reminiscent of M&M trying to ape the ARIA and come up better, in that they have succeeded.
The search for the affordable SUV is on.....

Actually Cediafan, the Endys stance is proportionate to the body. I'm going to share a shocking fact - the Endy at high speeds will have a closer CoG (Centre of Gravity) from Axle to Asphalt than the Cedia!!!

What this means is, considering the extra weight of the car, and distribution of weight across the longer wheelbase, the Endy (can't speak for all SUVs) will actually be safer than the Cedia.

This was a great post and it is such fact based arguments that make this forum such a pleasure.
Now, you are correct when you say that CoG is a factor in determining the handling. However, GC (and in turn higher center of mass) is a very important factor in deciding the handling. If I take your formula and double the wheelbase and weight, I will end up with exactly the same CoG. This does not mean that the vehicle with 2x dimensions is as stable as the first one.