Clowns, as scary as they might be to some, are not a threat to President Obama, unless they are driving a herd of angry rodeo bulls up Pennsylvania Avenue. This was a crude joke, a case of political satire unfortunately directed at a politician whose constituents would have us believe that any and all such satire is rooted in racism. The real takeaway from the furor generated by this incident is that the left continues to invoke the president’s race to discredit, and thus suppress, political dissent. The narrative that has long been advanced by liberal politicos is: If you disagree with the right, you are a hero. If you disagree with the left, you are a hater. The narrators are only too ecstatic to be able to add “racist” to the label.

George Zepernick, Denver

This letter was published in the Aug. 23 edition.

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Incident 1, October 10, 2006: oh, nooooooo! That’s not racist! You pointing it out is racist!!!!!1

Incident 10, October 11, 2006: oh, nooooooo! That’s not racist! You pointing it out is racist!!!!!1

Incident 100, October 20, 2006: oh, nooooooo! That’s not racist! You pointing it out is racist!!!!!1

Incident 1000, January 10, 2007: oh, nooooooo! That’s not racist! You pointing it out is racist!!!!!1

Incident 10,000, June 10, 2007: oh, nooooooo! That’s not racist! You pointing it out is racist!!!!!1

Incident 100,000, September 10, 2008: oh, nooooooo! That’s not racist! You pointing it out is racist!!!!!1 nuh-huh!!

Incident 1,000,000 November 5, 2008: oh, nooooooo!That’s not racist! You pointing it out is
racist!!!!!1 nuh-huh!!

Incident 10,000,000 November 10, 2008: oh, nooooooo! That’s not racist! You pointing it out is racist!!!!!1 uh-huh!! is too!

Incident 10,000,000 December 10, 2008: oh, nooooooo! That’s not racist! You pointing it out is racist!!!!!1 is too!

Incident 100,000,000 December 10, 2009: oh, nooooooo! That’s not racist! You pointing it out is racist!!!!!1 is too!

Incident 1,000,000,000 December 10, 2010: oh, nooooooo! That’s not racist! You pointing it out is racist!!!!!1 is tew!

Incident 10,000,000,000 December 10, 2011: oh, nooooooo! That’s not racist! You pointing it out is racist!!!!!1 is tew!

Incident 100,000,000,000 December 10, 2012: oh, nooooooo! That’s not racist! You pointing it out is racist!!!!!1 is tew!

HTH.

Best,

D

guest

Making up sh*t and pretending it is profound again? This shows that you are a bigot and that’s about it.

Dano2

Thank you for so adeptly (in a profoundly awesome way) reinforcing my point.

Best,

D

guest

“One of the two students removed from Oberlin College earlier this year for allegedly circulating virulently racist, anti-Jewish and anti-gay messages around campus is an ardent leftist and committed supporter of President Barack Obama, The Daily Caller News Foundation has learned.”

dailycallerDOTcom

Moral of the story? This guy claims to be the founder and president of the Ithaca High School for Obama club. He
also identified himself as a member of the Oberlin College Democrats. If you can’t find racism, you have to make it up like DTJ does.

The right’s idea of a smoking gun. They find these tidbits on right-wing blogs and shows, and try to hold them up as examples of bad-acting lefties. While peter will agree there are many on the left, he’ll neglect to mention the disproportionate numbers on the right. By the way guest. . you link doesn’t work. also any website that would include the tag-line “meet-the-privileged-obama-supporting-white-kids-who-perpetrated-cruel-oberlin-race-hoax”. . .kind of screams it’s bias, but you wouldn’t understand that.

Dano2

They find these tidbits on right-wing blogs and shows, and try to hold them up as examples of bad-acting lefties.

My phrase is “ants finding a crumb and declaring it a picnic”. When they bring out the trumpets and brass band to promote it makes the comedy complete.

Best,

D

guest

I notice you like to call yourselves (the left) a reality based community. Evidently not. Remember Maurice Joseph Schwenkler?

guest

The link does work.

Dano2

Clown-car Daily Caller ululating aside, thank you for having nothing but the mendacity of exaggerated stories.

Anyone who needs to use Daily Caller as a reference automatically goes to the bottom of the barrel

Best,

D

guest

How about a message from the Communications staff of Oberlin College? It happened. The liberal students have been expelled and the Daily Caller was correct.

I notice you dismiss information you don’t like because you don’t like the source. That habit actually puts you underneath the barrel.

Dano2

you dismiss information you don’t like

No, it’s your cheap, cretinous tactic of taking isolated incidents and falsely and dishonestly conflating them to The Other.

That the low class tactic only shows up on The Noise Machine – and all the ululating refers back to the the tawdriest of the tawdry makes it even more precious.

For the clueless: all the 8 million hits on this story refer back to the serial liar at the Daily Caller. That’s how they roll.

Best,

D

peterpi

So all Obama supporters are anti-Jewish and anti-gay. Yeah, right.
I bet if I looked hard, I could find some jerk of a student supporter of Romney who was anti-Jewish and anti-gay.
So, what?
You’d enver believe it, but jerks abound in all politicla parties.

guest

No, what is pretty common is left wing people make false reports trying to implicate right wing groups. Don’t you remember the transsexual Democrat Schwenkler who threw a brick through the Democratic Party’s window here in Denver?

peterpi

Other than showing he’s accomplished at cutting-and-pasting, what was he even trying to say?

guest

I think he was repeating what the voices in his head keep telling him.

Dano2

My 10-year-old got it. No need to pretend you don’t understand.

Best,

D

guest

Are you sure your 10 year old didn’t dictate it to you? That seems more likely.

Guest

Now that was funny.

Guest

Nothing like bringing a child in to your bitter and adolescent online psychosis. What a proud parent.

Best

toohip

See!!

Dano2

Perfect! I can always count on you to reinforce my point.

Best,

D

guest

DTJ, don’t you remember you already said this 12 hours ago. I guess the voices are even louder now? LOLz

Thanks for playing but you lose again.

Dano2

I guess to assist the mentally challenged, I’ll type “bump” next time.

It must be difficult for the usual addled suspects to conduct their daily affairs with such mental handicaps!

Best,

D

guest

Nice try to cover up that you don’t ever realize you are repeating yourself. But that pretty much all you do these days. So not only are you not clever and funny, but you are boring as well.

JohnDoe

Dano2, Toohip and TBone are mainstays in the liberal echo chamber that is the DP Disqus board…and yet they call everyone else “the usual suspects.”

The irony meter just exploded.

Dano2

Maybe your con irony meter needs a modern battery.

Best,

D

guest

Somehow I thought you would suggest a solar panel.

toohip

This is the new strategy of the usual suspects. . that their racism and intolerance is so obvious that they’re new strategy is to turn it around and assume some “I’m not, you are!” stance. Remember when guest pointed out that those of us on the left bring it up the birther issue more than those on the left, . . consequently “we” are the ones at fault (WT-?). While it fails on all accounts, it doesn’t in the “belief” world of the right, and that’s all that matters. Righties only reach out to their base, never to those on the fence or on the other side. . . and why they loose elections.

Guest

Toohip, you couldn’t be more racist if you were elected the Grand Wizard of the KKK. Go ahead, keep supporting liberal policies that keep minorities chained under snarky, elitist mouth breathers like you.

ChrisInDenver

Question: Do you think Obama would have won a second term were he white?

Dano2

Anyone could have won against the clown car the GOP trotted out there. All of them were (are) unelectable. So its unclear what your point is.

Best,

D

ChrisInDenver

He was a bad choice, I agree. The GOP has a bunch of idiots in charge.

Dano2

…and the Dems can’t take advantage of the opportunity.

Best,

D

ChrisInDenver

It’s a catch 22 in my view. Anyone who actually wants to get into politics is not someone you can trust with your vote. 😉

As far as Obama goes, I think his race helped him win a second term more than hurt. Do you agree?

peterpi

Regarding your first sentence, spot on, LOL
The people who would be most capable are smart enough not to go anywhere near politics, unfortunately.

johnrpack

That’s for sure. The GOP couldn’t have found a candidate more like Obama — and who gave voters less of a differentiating reason to vote for him.

I’m a conservative Mormon, and I couldn’t stomach Romney. Who needs an ex-governor who increased spending and taxes while he was in office?

peterpi

Romney seemed like a capable enough man.
When he was governor of Massachusetts, he supported gay-friendly policies, environmental policies, etc. When he ran for the GOP nomination, all of a sudden, he’s opposed to what he supported, and supported what he once opposed.
What was that Kerry line? “I was for it before I was against it”?
There was no “there” there with Romney.

ChrisInDenver

Good point. He would have had a better chance as what now passes as “moderate”. But then he would face the full wrath of the wacko right, who are not only killing the GOP chances, but are ironically not truly conservative.

johnrpack

Often the Republican concept of “small government” means $1 less than whatever the Democrats are selling. That may win elections occasionally, but it’s very unsatisfying — and no motivation to vote Republican whatsoever.

At the Republican primary I attended, the only people who voted for Romney were the “whoever can beat Obama” folks (we see how that worked out). The problem with that approach is that it produces the candidates with the least differences with the Democrats — and the least reason to bother to vote at all.

But then again, I’m committed to never vote Republican again until they repudiate their position on torture. My idea of a “patriot act” is one that arrests George Bush and turns him (and key members of his administration) over to the International Court for war crimes trials. That’s what this conservative patriot wants.

Until then I’ll vote Libertarian (including Ron and Rand Paul).

peterpi

rightwingliberal

George is correct. Disapproving of the left is a definite no-no.

Dano2

If the political dissent is equivalent to “baby need big poopy”, then ridicule is in order. If you need to make yourself feel better that sane people pointing out GoOPers need big poopy is the best they can do is…is..sane, then whatever gets you to sleep at night.

Best,

D

rightwingliberal

Your sentence construction is still horrid. You did graduate from high school? I’ve read stories written by fourth graders that were far superior to your unintelligible rantings. But hey, if it makes you feel better to show the world your lack of comprehension of the English language, by all means do.

Dano2

It is standard tactic #4 to be dishonest, and purposely be dishonest about The Other – specifically, pretending The Other is incomprehensible. Really low-wattage – but oh-so-predictable from the small man with 8 screen names!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Do the same thing……in 2007…..but have the clown wear a “Bush” mask…….and how many people would be crying “freedom of speech”…..”it was just a joke, you idiots”….”political satire”……and how many “liberal comics” and late-night talk show hosts would have laughed and giggled?

rightwingliberal

True. If someone did that wearing a Bush mask, there would be no fuss. But do it with an Obama mask, and you are now a racist. Can one actually be racist toward Obama? After all, by his and the medias definition, he is a white African-American.

peterpi

Your first complete sentence sounds like a whine. If a rodeo clown had done it wearing a Bush mask, conservatives (at a minimum) would be upset, and the rodeo people would have been right to fire the guy.
The right used to go through the roof over some of the stuff the left did in protest of Bush. But, now, everything is totally fair game against Obama, and the left is a bunch of sissy whiners.
I didn’t like President Bush, thought him arrogant and imperialistic, but also thought some of the left’s tactics were overboard.

All segments of humanity are seemingly predisposed to dislike anyone for all sorts of superficial reasons.
There are people who don’t like mixed-race individuals, and I guess that would make them racist.
“But, he’s part white! How can he be subject to racism!” is an absurd argument, and is more “I’m a victim” whining.

guest

The racism charge is a tired canard of many on the left.
To fail to criticize him because he is black would actually be racist. It’s like a man excusing himself for swearing in front of a woman. It denotes that the man thinks the women is too weak to hear such language and would in fact by sexist.

toohip

We’re tired of racism on the right too! You’re obvious one of those who wish Obama wasn’t “half-black” so the “racism” label couldn’t be dropped so easily on what are pretty obvious racist comments or demonstrations. Secretly you’re hoping the Republicans will run Condi so you on the right can play the same “racist” game, only throw in “misogynistic” as a bonus. That would be a “FAIL” because what you fail to understand, is the ignorance and intolerance is borne on the right, and the left’s intolerance would disappoint you.

So you’re suggesting the public is “too weak” to hear racist remarks? Wow.

guest

No.

tomfromthenews

When racism rears its ugly head, it’s hard to ignore. The worst stereotype Bush faced was the “dumb Texan” image, but at least he wasn’t portrayed as a foreign-born terrorist like some (many?) on the right are wont to do with Obama.

This lovely billboard was on display for westbound drivers on I-70 until just a little over a year ago. NO president has ever had to put up with the hatred that this president has faced, not even Nixon or Clinton. Here is a story from 2009 about the billboard, and I’m happy to report, his car dealership has gone out of business.

Oh, how quickly we forget. Google “kill Bush signs at Rallies” and then select images and then do the same with “kill Obama signs at Rallies.” The first thing you will notice is that there are no kill Obama signs (you’ll see Obama lies and babies die or grandma dies) but in that (the Obama one) search you will see kill Bush signs. In the first two rolls of pictures in the kill Bush search, you will see calls for bombing Bush, hanging him, his face in the cross hairs of a gunsight and a guillotine with Bush’s head in a basket.

Compare the signs at the rallies to that birth certificate sign and then say with a straight face, NO president has ever had to put up with the hatred this president has faced.

tomfromthenews

True, the billboard does not say “Kill Obama”, but look at it again. It is calling into question his citizenship, it labels his presidency a “jihad”, and it compares him to the Ft. Hood shooter. Add to this the absolute refusal of the congressional GOP to work with him despite his attempts to compromise (way too much for my taste), and it is easy to see why the GOP has sunk so low in the eyes of the public.

Latest polls are out: in the southern state of Virginia, Hillary Clinton easily beats both Chris Christie and Ted Cruz among likely voters, and the campaigns haven’t even begun. Who else is the GOP going to run who might have even a sliver of a chance of appealing to the wide swath of GOP voters?

So are you swearing Hillary in already? LOL. You might want to read Camille Paglia opinion on that.

ChrisInDenver

They hated Hillary in 2007.

tomfromthenews

I loved her. She was my candidate until she withdrew in the “glass ceiling” speech.

tomfromthenews

I have read Ms. Paglia on a number of topics. I agree sometimes, am offended at others. And no, not swearing Hillary in yet. But right now, she’s the only likely candidate with anything like a reasonable shot at the White House.

ChrisInDenver

Google “Bins Corner Death threats against Bush” and you’ll see very specific and graphic pictures, effigies, etc. etc. doing just that. I’m not sure it makes much sense to try to argue that one side’s wacko’s are better/worse than the other side however.

guest

Not better or worse, but a lot more numerous.

ChrisInDenver

I don’t believe that is accurate. People thinking the other side is more rabid have existed throughout history.

Guest

Don’t remember getting any e-mails with watermelons on the front lawn of the Whitehouse when Bush was in office. Or fried chicken references. But then, that wouldn’t have any meaning to a white president, would it?

RaginGnome

“If a rodeo clown…”
But the Washington Examiner dug up another case of political incorrectness that didn’t generate so much controversy. In 1994, a George H.W. Bush rodeo clown mask showed up at a rodeo, poking fun at the 41st President of the United States.

The account, which came from Philadelphia Inquirer reporter Douglas A. Campbell, described a Bush rodeo clown mask on the human target that drew bulls away from thrown riders.

The story read:

“The crowd cheered. Then the bull saw the George Bush dummy. He tore into it, sending the rubber mask flying halfway across the sand as he turned toward the fence, sending cowboys scrambling up the fence rails, hooking one with his horn and tossing him off the fence.”

That clown was not fired and banned for life. No federal investigation as a hate crime.

toohip

As I said before, the right looking for love in all the wrong places. . trying to suggest the left is as equally as hateful as the right (peter may agree, but equality is a state of mind)

“A dummy with a George Bush mask stood beside the clown, propped up by a broomstick.…
T.J. Hawkins rolled out the big inner tube, and the bull lowered his head, shot forward and launched into the tube, sending it bounding down the center of the arena. The crowd cheered. Then the bull saw the George Bush dummy. He tore into it, sending the rubber mask flying halfway across the sand as he turned toward the fence, ”

versus

““The announcer wanted to know if anyone would like to see Obama run down by a bull,” the posting said. “The crowd went wild. He asked it again and again, louder each time, whipping the audience into a lather.”

Another clown then apparently joined the performance.

“One of the clowns ran up and started bobbling the lips on the mask and the people went crazy,” the posting said. “Finally a bull came close enough to him that he had to move so he jumped up and ran away to the delight of the onlookers hooting and hollering from the stands.”

One involves a mask and no commentary, the other requires racist actions “bobbling the lips” and commentary. Close, but no cigar

guest

No, no, no. We are saying the left in general is much more hateful than the right, not equally as hateful. Look at your comments here on this topic. In almost everyone you spew forth with hateful charges against the right in general and no one in particular specifically. With the exception of DTJ, you are probably the most clueless person on these boards.

Tbone

If the left is so much more hateful, perhaps you can explain why death threats against Obama are 4 times the number Bush had.

ChrisInDenver

Source please

Tbone

already posted it.

ChrisInDenver

It’s a de-bunked article from 4 years ago.

guest

I posted the testimony was well. The CNN reporter who made the claim admitted it wasn’t true about three weeks later. Tbonehead doesn’t seem to learn. I corrected him on it before.

peterpi

I’ll stick with equally hateful.
You can hardly call the Denver Post user forums a random sample.
I bet if I visited the websites of blogs and newspapers that conservatives frequent, the hate and vitriol would be just as bad.
It’s called Internet anonymity.
Both sides have their jerks. You just can’t admit it.

guest

I didn’t say the right doesn’t have jerks in it. I just say the left has a lot more.

peterpi

That’s kindergarten talk.
“You have cooties”
You have more than I do”
“Your mom needs a jar of make-up to get out of the house.”
Your mom needs two!”

Both sides have their jerks.

RaginGnome

Don’t read your personal prejudices into what I write. I said nothing about racism. And you are the only one on here that keeps pointing that President Obama is a black man.

ChrisInDenver

As always. They are obsessed with race.

toohip

None, because in the real world the left and people with brains no the difference. Only in the minds of the hate-filled right would they believe this kind of behavior is fair game, and believe the same things they pull the left does equally. The world of belief or political religion, is vague, but predictable.

ChrisInDenver

“people with brains no the difference”. Priceless.

primafacie

Irony can be a delicious dish.

primafacie

Yawn. A rodeo clown wore a mask. Next you’ll tell me they used to sell Carter, Clinton and Reagan masks.

peterpi

Wore a mask, … and asked the crowd if a bull should run down Obama. Further, the clown used the PA system to do so, which caused members of the audience to think the rodeo announcer posed the question.
It’s a standard clause for many businesses that the employees or contract players not embarrass the company.
You ordinarily seem real keen on pointing out that employers have a right to fire employees, and employees have the right to quit.
Hmmm …

Steve R

This is old news…Yawn. MSNBC tried to make something out of this but nobody took the bait. I think it was the videos showing people hanging Bush in effigy and pictures of signs showing Bush as hitler and saying “kill bush”, that reminded them this happens to all Presidents. I thought it was pretty damn funny but I’m just some racist redneck hick so what do I know.

Guest

Yawn is right….you and yours are tired old angry white men who try and defend yourselves so hard, it’s pathetic! But your last line is spot on.

toohip

Strategy Plan B: admit to being what you’re accused of as some form of humorous dismissive.

ChrisInDenver

Right. Because the comments from the left are never full of anger and hate. The extremes on both fringes are much more alike than different; only the content varies.

peterpi

Last line is spot on.

toohip

Fail.

peterpi

People comparing Obama to African tribal leaders, people hanging Obama in effigy from a noose (aka “lynching”), people also comparing Obama to Hitler.
“This happens to all presidents”, indeed.

primafacie

I do and have. Did this guy get fired? I don’t know.

The discussion seems to involve the propriety of the mask. Seems tame as far as political commentary goes, especially in light of “jokes” about assassinating previous presidents, and no different than a Hillary mask or a Justin Bieber mask (all the rage at recent Halloweens, as I recall).

ChrisInDenver

I agree.

toohip

If it were only that simple as in in the simple minds of the right in trying to achieve equality of outrage. LOL

primafacie

Or equality in indifference, if you’re scoring at home.

toohip

There are some on the right who really wish the President wasn’t black so they could escape the racist charge and could demonize and characterize the President as a white fool, rather then politically incorrect black fool. Does that mean they’re not racist by nature? In their minds, yes, but such is the nature of political theater.

The right will point to some political groups who characterized and made fun of Bush during his term, but while some will say it’s not different – it really was. Bush was a moronic fool, who was run by his handlers, where Obama is a self-thinking man. Case in point, you won’t find dozens of books written on Obama’s gaffes, like Bush and his “Bushisms.” Only someone like Bush could garner a Wikipedia entry for “Bushisms” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushism)

But this is just pure hate. While we’ve discussed, and lampooned “right-wing humor,” there is a failure right wing humor not just of humor but as a cover-up for hatred or racism, in examples like this. For an ilk that professes patriotism and respect for the nation and it’s leadership, is sure falls from grace pretty quickly when the black guy in the white house is so despised, that an entire party’s agenda is devoted to making the country’s leader too look like a failure and obstruct progress in the meantime.

Dano2

The cherry on top:

you think you are being sharp whittled

Precious.

Best,

D

Tbone

That’s rediculous!

toohip

“Stevie Wonder,” you darling, actually you do care, as many of us do, or you wouldn’t bother to “feel threatened” by who you call “Dbag” (another form of failure to debate – name calling). But we . . “understand.” :o)

JohnDoe

Please… In the realm of logical fallacies, you’re one of the worst. I’ve been reading these boards for awhile now and only recently started posting. Everything you accuse everyone else of doing is par for the course in just about every one of your posts….Name calling? Check. Strawman arguments? Check. Red Herrings? Check. Grammar corrections? Check. False accusations? Check. Special pleading? Check. Appeals to emotion, ignorance or authority? Check. Ad Hominems? Check. And the list goes on.

toohip

“Only recently started posting?” I’m #3 on the all posters list, check it out top right. You have every right to disagree with me. Show me where I’m name calling! “Straw man” is not name calling it’s a type of argument if you knew better. Like I said just before, if you want to disagree, attack the message, not me, but this is typical of those on the right to attack the messenger. Thanks for behaving like your ilk.

tomfromthenews

Seems like asking a rodeo crowd in deep-red Missouri if they’d like to see a bull run down Obama is throwing red meat to a lion. How else is this crowd supposed to react?

ktrav

This letter from Mr. Zepernick is the typical racist’s defense, one the right-wing hate radio bloviators started as soon as this attack on President Obama was made public.

There has been overwhelming and continual evidence of racist attacks against our president ever since he announced his candidacy right up to today. The birther issues, the Kenyan plots, the signs and words at town hall meetings, the Muslim cracks (which shows double racism), – there are just too many to list. And, yes, the rodeo clown was one as well. Not only were there hundreds of children in the audience, but the announcer who was ‘narrating’ was the local school superintendent. This is not ‘satire’. This was simply and gravely offensive.

I also find it interesting and telling that so many conservatives run to the defense of this ugly and racist display yet STILL have problems with The Dixie Chicks who’s one member merely stated that she was embarrassed that Bush was from Texas (and many of us felt at the time, and were later proven to be accurate and true, that Bush led us to war based on outrageous lies, a war resulting in many hundreds of thousands of deaths.

This letter only underscores the deep hatreds and racism still so prominent and dangerous in our country.

ChrisInDenver

What about the protestors with images of George Bush with a bullet in his head? Google “death threats against Bush”, and you’ll find a site called Bin’s Corner that shows dozens, as well as a quote from Betty Williams, Nobel Peace laureate, who said “I mean right now, I could kill George Bush. No problem…”

Spare me the outrage.

guest

Hell, leftists made a movie in which W was assassinated and the left was fine with that. I guess their guy is too delicate to have a rodeo clown make fun of him. Or more to the point, they can’t stand any criticism so they have to blame it on racial animus.

Dano2

I like that several levdizt media outlets refused to carry advertisements for the film, it lost money, and you are clueless as to their politics, yet here’s the low-wattage usual suspects making up inane sh– again.

Best,

D

reinhold23

Exactly, and while GOP Congressmen supported the birther stuff PUBLICLY, you never found Democrat Congressmen in support of the usual canards the right tosses out in failed attempts at equivalence.

guest

All left wing movies seem to lose money. But left wing Hollywood keeps making them. Now are you trying to tell me the people who made that movie were right wing?????? Is that what the voices in your head are telling you?

Dano2

If you think left-wing Hollywood made that movie, you are exactly the titanically ignorant astute investor I’ve been looking for in this fantastic real-estate deal! PM me!!!!!

Best,

D

guest

How can I PM you?

Dano2

Do you have a cashier’s check ready to go to invest in my can’t-miss, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity?

Best,

D

guest

Tell me how to contact you.

ChrisInDenver

If you are willing to accept a cashier’s check, I’ll introduce you to a friend of mine from Nigeria…. 😉

BTW, does the name Mondo mean anything to you, or Heinlein?

Dano2

I used to read Heinlein, but I don’t know the name Mondo.

Best,

D

ChrisInDenver

Thanks. I thought you might be someone I used to go back and forth with years ago on another site.

peterpi

Yep. Those dang Nigerians never know where to put their $300 million.
I think people worldwide can show them where.

Ann_Elin

That movie was made in the UK, not the US. So if you’re going to cry and attempt to create false equivalencies, then tell the whole story.
And, if you uptight, fightin’ white righties are so tired of the race card being played, then take the whole deck of cards off the table and that particular card won’t get played.

tomfromthenews

Um, no, never “fine with that”.
What a stupid stunt of a movie that was. Embarrassing.

Tbone

Death threats?

If it’s death threats you speak of, they’re up 400% against Obama compared to Bush.

Bit of a bombshell at this morning’s Homeland Security Committee hearing:

U.S. Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan dismissed published
reports that the level of death threats against President Obama are four
times greater than typical threat levels against recent presidents —
claiming the current volume of threats is comparable to that under
George W. Bush and Bill Clinton.

“It’s not [a] 400 percent [increase],” Sullivan said during a heated
exchange with Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.), who suggested the
service needed additional agents to protect the first African-American
president.

“I’m not sure where that number comes from,” he said, adding that the
number of threats against Obama “are the same level as it has been
[against] the last two presidents.”

Tbone

Good to know.

ChrisInDenver

Regardless, we’re discussing which fringe wacko’s are more reprehensible. I only hope none are represented up here.

peterpi

Dunno about death threats in particular, but I believe the Secret Service has gotten increases in funding, because the number of phone and mail threats have substantially increased.

guest

Absolutely false.

“It’s not [a] 400 percent [increase],” Sullivan said during a heated
exchange with Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.), who suggested the service needed additional agents to protect the first African-American president.

“I’m not sure where that number comes from,” he said, adding that the number of threats against Obama “are the same level as it has been [against] the last two presidents.”

The claims have been debunked. There was an article in 2009 that claimed death threats were up 400% for Obama that the Secret Service denied.

ChrisInDenver

I’m wondering what your opinion is of the Nobel Laurette who said she could kill George Bush. I believe if someone in the public eye said such a thing about Mr. Obama, it would be major national headline. Do you agree?

peterpi

You know about this Nobel Laureate, so it must have made headlines.

ChrisInDenver

Did you know about it?

guest

I do believe she was Irish and she was talking with school children in Australia when she said it.

RaginGnome

“the Muslim cracks (which shows double racism),”

Muslim is not a race.

ChrisInDenver

“If you disagree with the right, you are a hero. If you disagree with the left, you are a hater.”
-Spot on.

Dano2

OH, excellent! I’m a hero for disagreeing with the lies that led us into war (shock and awe! F— yeah!!!!!), turning over my freedom to the new Heimat Sekuritat Dept (orange alert!) , and for dumping money out of airplanes onto Muzzy countries.

So I’m a hero now, even though foaming inane lunatics called me a traitor and French at the time.

Times change, eh?

Best,

D

guest

I wonder where Syria got those WMD they used to gas their own people?

“The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein’s air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.

The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, “Saddam’s Secrets,” released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.” January 26, 2006

wwwDOTnysunDotcom

Looks like times have change again.

/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/

Dano2

Thanks for dutifully parroting that old pathetic winger wish. Best LOLz of the day from you, and you are a veritable fountain of winger LOLz.

Best,

D

guest

So where do you think the WMD’s came from?

Dano2

Their dubya-em-dee didn’t come from that bogus, tendentious hokum that still gets dragged out like Uncle Ralph’s revolving slide projector at Thanksgiving.

Best,

D

guest

You need to work on your reading skills (ask your 10 year old to read it to you). SO WHERE DO YOU THINK THE WMD’S CAME FROM? Notice I didn’t ask were they didn’t come from.

Dano2

I know they didn’t come from the bulls— hokum you tried to pass off in your comment above.

Beyond that, I have no idea. Halliburton? Rumsfeld?

Best,

D

guest

Interesting. You don’t know where they possibly might have come from but you do know where they didn’t come from. Despite the book written by Saddam’s second in command in his air force.

Dano2

Despite the book written by Saddam’s second in command in his air force.

Awh! that’s sooooo precious.

Best,

D

peterpi

What makes you think they couldn’t make their own?

johnrpack

Diversity means having the exact percentage of each protected class of employee — in fact, the exact same percentage as every other corporation.

Liberal diversity is racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. After all, it requires employers to hire based on where they are in relation to the required percentages rather than “judging based on character” or skills along (as Martin Luther King admonished).

Rd2xs

The issue in this case is that the display took place at a state-sanctioned event, the Missouri State Fair. Whether it was politically or racially motivated is immaterial. The fact that the State Fair Commission can only have a certain number of members from one political party attests to the non-partisan nature of the event. The same would hold true if a rodeo clown wore a Bush mask.

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