Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 4, 2012 11:10:51 GMT -5

I don't usually care about slights on these types of lists, but that is stunning. I can see where a lot of non-GU fans might not notice / give Otto his due, but I am shocked that the BE coaches don't have him in the top 6/7 freshman.

Post by GUJook97 on Mar 4, 2012 11:48:28 GMT -5

Post by MCIGuy on Mar 4, 2012 11:48:34 GMT -5

Folks, you know it is about numbers and stats. The other guys picked ahead of him are probably starters who put up bigger numbers on, mostly, bad teams. Hell, even the guy doing the play-by-play didn't have Otto on his all-freshmen team and realized he looked kinda dumb for not having done so as the game unfolded before him. But people will always go by the numbers in these situations.

Post by harlemhoya on Mar 4, 2012 11:51:36 GMT -5

Folks, you know it is about numbers and stats. The other guys picked ahead of him are probably starters who put up bigger numbers on, mostly, bad teams. Hell, even the guy doing the play-by-play didn't have Otto on his all-freshmen team and realized he looked kinda dumb for not having done so as the game unfolded before him. But people will always go by the numbers in these situations.

Congrats to Jason and Henry.

It was the Brian Kelley, the color analyst who said. I don't think he did a Hoya game before yesterday.

Post by miracles87 on Mar 4, 2012 11:52:35 GMT -5

I am completely and utterly flabbergasted. Shocked, surprised, blown away and taken aback. This is like leaving the color Green off of the All M&M Team, or Lebron James off of the Most Reviled ex-Cleveland, OH Area Athletes List. Otto Porter is one of the finest frosh players I have ever seen. He obsesses on rebounding. He handles and passes with complete surety, and clearly can see two moves ahead of the average Big East baller. My main beef with Otto is a Jeff-esque tendency to be too team oriented. That, fellow Hoya fans, is not a deal breaker in this context. I actually cannot recall a Big East level snub of this magnitude, though I remember feeling similarly unhappy with Reggie Williams not winning the Naismith his Senior year. The Admiral took the award having played roughly three games against the level of competition Reggie dominated over thirty plus. Anyway, I guess Otto has a clear opportunity to set the record straight this week...

Post by RDF on Mar 4, 2012 11:56:47 GMT -5

Folks, you know it is about numbers and stats. The other guys picked ahead of him are probably starters who put up bigger numbers on, mostly, bad teams. Hell, even the guy doing the play-by-play didn't have Otto on his all-freshmen team and realized he looked kinda dumb for not having done so as the game unfolded before him. But people will always go by the numbers in these situations.

Congrats to Jason and Henry.

It was the Brian Kelley, the color analyst who said. I don't think he did a Hoya game before yesterday.

Harlem-it's Mike Kelley and he's done many Hoya games in past and gets hyped as a great defender when he was on the original era of misconstrued praise-Dick Bennett's Wisconsin teams. Kelley was seen as a great defensive player--and like the Scout mentioned about Bo Ryan's team in Seth Davis breakdown-it's a joke. They don't defend at all-they limit possessions by not trying to score and score is low and gives them this aura of being a great defensive team.

Porter not being on this team is as laughable as having Ashton Gibbs be Preseason POY.

Post by nathanhm on Mar 4, 2012 12:05:12 GMT -5

It was the Brian Kelley, the color analyst who said. I don't think he did a Hoya game before yesterday.

Harlem-it's Mike Kelley and he's done many Hoya games in past and gets hyped as a great defender when he was on the original era of misconstrued praise-Dick Bennett's Wisconsin teams. Kelley was seen as a great defensive player--and like the Scout mentioned about Bo Ryan's team in Seth Davis breakdown-it's a joke. They don't defend at all-they limit possessions by not trying to score and score is low and gives them this aura of being a great defensive team.

Porter not being on this team is as laughable as having Ashton Gibbs be Preseason POY.

It's worse! Pre-season stuff is all based on hype, these awards are supposed to be based on results. These ballots need to be made public, let's find out which coaches are not paying attention.

Post by lichoya68 on Mar 4, 2012 12:05:51 GMT -5

id take otto over ANY of them yup maybe the hoyas will boycott the dinner ala sleepy floyd NOT getting player of the year in the big east YUP OTTOMATIC IS PRETTY DARN GOOD great kid great hoya LETS SHOW EM IN THE GARDEN OTTO LETS SHOW EM go hoyas

go hoyas eat up and feast on the big east but win one by one by AT LEAST one and have some fun!!

Post by lichoya68 on Mar 4, 2012 12:08:38 GMT -5

otto and our hoyas SHOW EM IN NYC IN THE GARDEN yup lets show em alll WIN IT FOR OTTO AND THE SENIORS you never know CONGRATS TO HENRY AND JASON ADN HOLLIS BUT win it for OTTOMATIC we will see. win on the court and they MUST follow yup except maybe the wash post

go hoyas eat up and feast on the big east but win one by one by AT LEAST one and have some fun!!

Post by harlemhoya on Mar 4, 2012 12:35:26 GMT -5

It was the Brian Kelley, the color analyst who said. I don't think he did a Hoya game before yesterday.

Harlem-it's Mike Kelley and he's done many Hoya games in past and gets hyped as a great defender when he was on the original era of misconstrued praise-Dick Bennett's Wisconsin teams. Kelley was seen as a great defensive player--and like the Scout mentioned about Bo Ryan's team in Seth Davis breakdown-it's a joke. They don't defend at all-they limit possessions by not trying to score and score is low and gives them this aura of being a great defensive team.

Porter not being on this team is as laughable as having Ashton Gibbs be Preseason POY.

And Freeman last year. I think yesterday was the first time Kelley saw Otto in person.