Sometimes, being a responsible adult will create some conflict with football objectives. Can't fault him for finishing up his degree, and he's a veteran who knows how to prepare himself for training camp.

Sometimes, being a responsible adult will create some conflict with football objectives. Can't fault him for finishing up his degree, and he's a veteran who knows how to prepare himself for training camp.

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Agreed. Personally, I don't think the NFL does enough to get players ready for life after football; for all you might say about the Patriots, that's one thing they really do work hard on (and, in fact, they have gotten recognition from the league on this issue).

Agreed. Personally, I don't think the NFL does enough to get players ready for life after football; for all you might say about the Patriots, that's one thing they really do work hard on (and, in fact, they have gotten recognition from the league on this issue).

When he successfully completes his Degree the Pats should still honor his bonus.

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No, he's making "his" choices. He reasonably could have waited until after his playing career and gone to finish his degree, instead he checked his bank balance and has decided doing it now works better for his family and the extra cash doesn't matter. I understand what you're trying to say in terms of respecting Warren for making a smart choice, but it sets a precedent for other players who will expect to be 'paid' to finish an education most of them received for free in return for playing football. The proper way for NE to handle this is to accept Ty's decision, hold him to his conditioning requirements, and as long as he meets those requirements, not penalize him for his decision beyond the cash he already elected to lose.

No way. Pioli used to talk about this. It's about what matters, and at this stage in his life that should be football. Particularly coming off a season where leadership and buying all in was challenged, this isn't a smart career move for Warren. The time to finish his degree is after his playing days are over.

No way. Pioli used to talk about this. It's about what matters, and at this stage in his life that should be football. Particularly coming off a season where leadership and buying all in was challenged, this isn't a smart career move for Warren. The time to finish his degree is after his playing days are over.

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well....he's doing it.......guess its up to the pats to treat it the way they deem necessary......

what pioli says its about what matters to the pats........warren is obviously saying its what matters to warren

No, he's making "his" choices. He reasonably could have waited until after his playing career and gone to finish his degree, instead he checked his bank balance and has decided doing it now works better for his family and the extra cash doesn't matter. I understand what you're trying to say in terms of respecting Warren for making a smart choice, but it sets a precedent for other players who will expect to be 'paid' to finish an education most of them received for free in return for playing football. The proper way for NE to handle this is to accept Ty's decision, hold him to his conditioning requirements, and as long as he meets those requirements, not penalize him for his decision beyond the cash he already elected to lose.

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I agree..... he should not get the bonus. The affairs he is pursuing are not Patriot related. Others could follow Warren as an example. Action is required. No Bonus. Good for him thou.

No, he's making "his" choices. He reasonably could have waited until after his playing career and gone to finish his degree, instead he checked his bank balance and has decided doing it now works better for his family and the extra cash doesn't matter. I understand what you're trying to say in terms of respecting Warren for making a smart choice, but it sets a precedent for other players who will expect to be 'paid' to finish an education most of them received for free in return for playing football. The proper way for NE to handle this is to accept Ty's decision, hold him to his conditioning requirements, and as long as he meets those requirements, not penalize him for his decision beyond the cash he already elected to lose.

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Totally agree. This is an employee choosing to cut back on his work hours to pursue a degree unrelated to his current job. He knows it will mean a dent in his current paycheck, but he's decided it's worth it for the long-term rewards. He has also calculated that as a hard-working 7-year employee of the company, he's proven himself enough to do this without hurting his job status.

It's a very smart decision, IMO, but not one he'd expect his employer to pay him for.

warren took a below market deal to be here with the pats....he even signed for less after adalius thomas signed
if the pats don't like it, they can pound sand

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He did not take a below market deal, he took an early deal which is always tied to a discount. He was signed through 2008 and he extended before the 2007 season with two full seasons remaining on his rookie deal. That was his choice. He could have waited for a FA market deal as Wilfork chose to, the team doesn't hold a gun to their heads, they just make the offer. Oddly they are routinely evicerated here for not doing that often enough, when in fact they quite often make the offers only to be rebuffed. But of course that is simply part of the damned if they do and damned if they don't mentality that permeates this board recently...He got $14M in bonus money and $18M guaranteed. His new deal averaged $7.4M per year in new money for the three years it added.

Totally agree. This is an employee choosing to cut back on his work hours to pursue a degree unrelated to his current job. He knows it will mean a dent in his current paycheck, but he's decided it's worth it for the long-term rewards. He has also calculated that as a hard-working 7-year employee of the company, he's proven himself enough to do this without hurting his job status.

It's a very smart decision, IMO, but not one he'd expect his employer to pay him for.

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I understand and to some extent agree with this. I was merely making a suggestion and realize the business side of his agreement between him and the Patriots, but what I disagree is that this has to do with Ty being mature and gaining some leadership qualities as a person. Completing a degree is a worthy accomplishment that many employers will help pay for if not all of the coursework related to the job. While his degree probably has nothing to do with football, the Pats will ultimately benefit from Ty achieving this goal. I highly doubt that this will effect his ability to play football in 2010. All I'm merely saying is that this type off off-field stuff should be encouraged as well.

He did not take a below market deal, he took an early deal which is always tied to a discount. He was signed through 2008 and he extended before the 2007 season with two full seasons remaining on his rookie deal. That was his choice. He could have waited for a FA market deal as Wilfork chose to, the team doesn't hold a gun to their heads, they just make the offer. Oddly they are routinely evicerated here for not doing that often enough, when in fact they quite often make the offers only to be rebuffed. But of course that is simply part of the damned if they do and damned if they don't mentality that permeates this board recently...He got $14M in bonus money and $18M guaranteed. His new deal averaged $7.4M per year in new money for the three years it added.

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I guess it depends on your definition of market

the bottom line is that I have no problem at all with what he is doing.