umm...i had someone locked in a triangle choke once, and I felt a thumb probing my anus.....needless to say, i let go of the submission immediately...and rolled away......albeit, ready to soccer kick his ass...but thats besides the point

Grappling is gay. There's no point pretending otherwise. It doesn't look _anything like_ what happens when some dumbass drunk takes a swing at you in a bar, so stop pretending it's all about 'realistic self-defence'. It's gay. Totally, totally LIBERACE gay. Accept it.

He's right, everyone knows that 'Rear Naked Choke' is just a euphemism for 'Reach Around'.