Itachi could defeat Non-Rinnegan Tobi/Obito??? Fuq out of here! OBITO Shits on him!!!

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You didn't needed to say all that, because i believe that here is the reason why Obito shits on Itachi:

Like you can see on this pic, he can decide which part can be send in the other dimension. So for example, he can send his whole body in the other dimension and only leave his fingers in the real dimension. If he does that, can you tell me how Itachi touches him? When he send his body in the other dimension, he simply doesn't exist in our dimension. So whether it's Amaterasu, Susanoo(totsuka) and even Tsukuyomi(besides the fact that Tsukuyomi is useless against MS Uchiha users, it would be also useless because if he sends his face in the other dimension for example, no eye contact is possible at least not with the real since it stays an image from him in the real one).

By the same method, since he is not simply existing in the real dimension(only an image from him), defenses like Susanoo are also useless, he will phase through it and with only his finger he can warp you. In fact using Susanoo would even be a stupid idea against Obito since when Itachi uses it, it reduce his reaction-time like Kabuto noticed.

On paper you would also think minato would lose against " untouchable" Obito but.. You can never tell with characters like itachi and kakashi etc . they prove that battles often times are situational. I think obits abilities givese him an advantage to pretty much every ninja but doesn't necessarily mean he has or will Neva lose a fight (read Edo itachi vs Edo Nagato) I couldn't believe Nagato lost but itachi came up with a legit strategy which flipped the tables *in front of overwhelming power *(pain voice

obito wins this with high difficulty since he clearly stated that if itachi knew all of his secrets he would win..... obito does not shit on itachi since itachi could almost beat him and ppl say that "oh no tobi would just suck in itachi" but no ppl are forgetting that itachi's intellect was on the same lvl as minato itachi is not easily defeated and who says that tobi can instantly break out of tskuyomi?!?! be real guys sasuke barely broke out of tsukuyomi it well take a while for tobi to break out of it as well and remember 3 seconds in the real world is 3 days in tsukuyomi, kakashi fainted right after itachi released tsukuyomi on him and kakashi was only in there about 2 seconds it will atleast take 5 seconds for tobi to break out of it, and when itachi uses his MS techniques he doesnt hold his eye yeah he bleeds from it but he does not hold it in pain like sasuke did go read the magna again -_-....... but and the end of the fight tobi will still win it is clearly stated in the magna but if itachi new his secrets he would beat tobi end of story and +rep to the OP you have provided evidence of obito beating itachi all those who say you didnt are just fanboys in denile

I didnt want to go in to deep with details because most the ppl on this site have a short attention span and wouldnt read it all. So in short, i broke it down. haha

I agree with the last part. I love itachi and know everything about him from every manga scan naruto has to offer. But i cant stand the fanbase that are clearly retarded and take this cartoon/anime wayyyyyyy to serious.

Minato and itachi arent even close to being the same in comparrison!
1. Minato wasnt sick
2. mintao had s/t ninjutus aswell
3. minato was a perfect conter just like kakashi is atm
4. itachi has nothing of what minato can do so dont compare them
5. just because minato could defeat him, doesnt mean itachi can just because you think itachi is better or even with mintao

sick itachi stands 5-10% chance heathy itachi stands 15-20% chance. Whether sick or not it doesnt change the fact itachi has nothin on him. Tobi is just as smart, has wayyyyyyyyyyyyy more chakra, knows itachi like the back of his hand etc etc nothing itachi has shown can defeat affect him to the point he will be 40/60 like you said. Why do you think that btw bro?

Not really seeing as though i postd that in the Original post. It isnt anything "new".. And he never stated itachi can defeat or kill him. He only said, if itachi knew his secrets he would be dead. pain said the same thing with jman. etc etc etc etc

Anyninja that knows another ninjas secrets wins! Simple logic of life. Nothing serious!

Originally Posted by Bogard

You didn't needed to say all that, because i believe that here is the reason why Obito shits on Itachi:

Like you can see on this pic, he can decide which part can be send in the other dimension. So for example, he can send his whole body in the other dimension and only leave his fingers in the real dimension. If he does that, can you tell me how Itachi touches him? When he send his body in the other dimension, he simply doesn't exist in our dimension. So whether it's Amaterasu, Susanoo(totsuka) and even Tsukuyomi(besides the fact that Tsukuyomi is useless against MS Uchiha users, it would be also useless because if he sends his face in the other dimension for example, no eye contact is possible at least not with the real since it stays an image from him in the real one).

By the same method, since he is not simply existing in the real dimension(only an image from him), defenses like Susanoo are also useless, he will phase through it and with only his finger he can warp you. In fact using Susanoo would even be a stupid idea against Obito since when Itachi uses it, it reduce his reaction-time like Kabuto noticed.

I know he can just walk strait through susanoo and **** him up. But as you know, most ppl on this site (itachi fans mostly) are slow and simple minded. I had to give alot and keep it simple at the same time to get this through there head.

obito wins this with high difficulty since he clearly stated that if itachi knew all of his secrets he would win..... obito does not shit on itachi since itachi could almost beat him and ppl say that "oh no tobi would just suck in itachi" but no ppl are forgetting that itachi's intellect was on the same lvl as minato itachi is not easily defeated and who says that tobi can instantly break out of tskuyomi?!?! be real guys sasuke barely broke out of tsukuyomi it well take a while for tobi to break out of it as well and remember 3 seconds in the real world is 3 days in tsukuyomi, kakashi fainted right after itachi released tsukuyomi on him and kakashi was only in there about 2 seconds it will atleast take 5 seconds for tobi to break out of it, and when itachi uses his MS techniques he doesnt hold his eye yeah he bleeds from it but he does not hold it in pain like sasuke did go read the magna again -_-....... but and the end of the fight toni will still win it is clearly stated in the magna but if itachi new his secrets he would beat tobi end of story and +rep to the OP you have provided evidence of obito beating itachi all those who say you didnt are just fanboys in denile

pretty much what itachi fans say against obito anyway this is not aimed at you by the way

On paper you would also think minato would lose against " untouchable" Obito but.. You can never tell with characters like itachi and kakashi etc . they prove that battles often times are situational. I think obits abilities gave him an advantage to pretty much every ninja but doesn't necessarily mean he has or will Neva lose a fight (read Edo itachi vs Edo Nagato) I couldn't believe Nagato lost but itachi came up with a legit strategy which flipped the tables *in front of overwhelming power *(pain voice

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What i need you and every other person that is clearly loss to understand is.... MInato and Kakashi has SPACE TIME NINJUTSU AND ITACHI DOES NOT! Naruto is all about match ups! Itachi has nothing of what minato and kakshi has to offer that can defeat tobi FACT OF THE MANGA! PPL like you go off of who you like and use the "smart" logic for your arguements ignoring manga facts givin by kishi himself. Itachi isnt unstoppable nor close to being so.

Originally Posted by minatofan234

obito wins this with high difficulty since he clearly stated that if itachi knew all of his secrets he would win..... obito does not shit on itachi since itachi could almost beat him and ppl say that "oh no tobi would just suck in itachi" but no ppl are forgetting that itachi's intellect was on the same lvl as minato itachi is not easily defeated and who says that tobi can instantly break out of tskuyomi?!?! be real guys sasuke barely broke out of tsukuyomi it well take a while for tobi to break out of it as well and remember 3 seconds in the real world is 3 days in tsukuyomi, kakashi fainted right after itachi released tsukuyomi on him and kakashi was only in there about 2 seconds it will atleast take 5 seconds for tobi to break out of it, and when itachi uses his MS techniques he doesnt hold his eye yeah he bleeds from it but he does not hold it in pain like sasuke did go read the magna again -_-....... but and the end of the fight toni will still win it is clearly stated in the magna but if itachi new his secrets he would beat tobi end of story and +rep to the OP you have provided evidence of obito beating itachi all those who say you didnt are just fanboys in denile

ANd to crush everything you stated! Itachi didnt know tobis secrets and will never till this day know them! SO Obito>>>>>>>Itachi! He shits on him every single time! Healthy or not!

pretty much what itachi fans say against obito anyway this is not aimed at you by the way

i know fanboys say that but obito fanboys say "oh no obito will just suck him up" lol but no it is not that easy to beat itachi, itachi would almost kill obito if they fought but obito still wins even though i like itachi

i know fanboys say that but obito fanboys say "oh no obito will just suck him up" lol but no it is not that easy to beat itachi, itachi would almost kill obito if they fought but obito still wins even though i like itachi

How would he "almost kill" obito??? I posted everything that would be countered based off the manga. And i didnt even post the fame barrier he would trap itachi in:
this is another tech he can use to kill him going in and out of it surprising itachi.

Why do people always say "If he had information"? If you are saying he can beat Obito, he should be able to beat him without it stop adding crutches, In reality Itachi can't touch Obito EVEN with his Susano'o.. Obito outlasts Itachi, then seizes a decisive strike. Obito Wins 10/10.

i know fanboys say that but obito fanboys say "oh no obito will just suck him up" lol but no it is not that easy to beat itachi, itachi would almost kill obito if they fought but obito still wins even though i like itachi

Why do people always say "If he had information"? If you are saying he can beat Obito, he should be able to beat him without it stop adding crutches, In reality Itachi can't touch Obito EVEN with his Susano'o.. Obito outlasts Itachi, then seizes a decisive strike. Obito Wins 10/10.

exactly!!!

Originally Posted by bajram

stfu little kids? arent u one of them ?

So you mad kid???
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What i need you and every other person that is clearly loss to understand is.... MInato and Kakashi has SPACE TIME NINJUTSU AND ITACHI DOES NOT! Naruto is all about match ups! Itachi has nothing of what minato and kakshi has to offer that can defeat tobi FACT OF THE MANGA! PPL like you go off of who you like and use the "smart" logic for your arguements ignoring manga facts givin by kishi himself. Itachi isnt unstoppable nor close to being so.

I'm not saying that he will beat tobi but it is a mistake to say Itachi has no chance against Tobi..

Lmao and this is why you are a NOOb to me! You make no sense and are retarded to think that strategy would work on tobi! lmao go reread the entire manga!!!

yup, with this you just showed to everyone the best argument ever. Why the hell did you even bother to write since you didn't say anything productive or at least with some kind of potential.
That makes perfect sense. . . i f you don't even understand what I wrote then you just need to start all over from kindergarden. . .

You posted like a page or something of writing, and it just took me a sentence to show a easy way itachi can find a way to deal with the obito's kamui. . .

If there's someone who really needs to read the manga all over again is you because you really don't have a grasp of the potential that itachi has, because he never showed his true strength. Even with as much info as we have, Itachi is one step ahead of obito in many aspects.

Anyway, i bet that none of these will ever make sense to you because of the obvious hate that you have about itachi . . . it's unreasonable to argue with a fanboy.

yup, with this you just showed to everyone the best argument ever. Why the hell did you even bother to write since you didn't say anything productive or at least with some kind of potential.
That makes perfect sense. . . i f you don't even understand what I wrote then you just need to start all over from kindergarden. . .

You posted like a page or something of writing, and it just took me a sentence to show a easy way itachi can find a way to deal with the obito's kamui. . .

If there's someone who really needs to read the manga all over again is you because you really don't have a grasp of the potential that itachi has, because he never showed his true strength. Even with as much info as we have, Itachi is one step ahead of obito in many aspects.

Anyway, i bet that none of these will ever make sense to you because of the obvious hate that you have about itachi . . . it's unreasonable to argue with a fanboy.

concerning the issue: i'll just post the same things that i post to every other thread favoring obito against itachi.

Scenario: tobi sucks itachi. . . it was just a clone of itachi that actually explodes inside of obito when he will materialize from a surprise attack from itachi. short and precise. His kamui is easily countered. I don't need one page . . .

yup, with this you just showed to everyone the best argument ever. Why the hell did you even bother to write since you didn't say anything productive or at least with some kind of potential.
That makes perfect sense. . . i f you don't even understand what I wrote then you just need to start all over from kindergarden. . .

You posted like a page or something of writing, and it just took me a sentence to show a easy way itachi can find a way to deal with the obito's kamui. . .

If there's someone who really needs to read the manga all over again is you because you really don't have a grasp of the potential that itachi has, because he never showed his true strength. Even with as much info as we have, Itachi is one step ahead of obito in many aspects.

Anyway, i bet that none of these will ever make sense to you because of the obvious hate that you have about itachi . . . it's unreasonable to argue with a fanboy.