Hello, I'm new to the forum and I need help with the game LayerSection for Windows 95/98, please! I have tried installing it in Windows 7, 95 and 98, with _inmm.dll (ver 2.15 - 2.30 - 2.32 - 2.36 - 2.37 and 2.38), with the tracks in .wav and .mp3 but with no configuration that the music of the CD. My last configuration is in Windows 98 emulated with DosBox 0.74 SVN-Daum, with the tracks in .wav, the image bin/cue mounted, and _inmm.dll 2.37. Help please, thanks.

It works, so you're obviously doing something wrong. Though your post is a bit poorly written and I'm going to need a lot more information to figure out what. Let's start with some screenshots, post a screenshot of the following:

A hash of the .exe before and after patching it with _inmm (you can use an online service like http://onlinemd5.com/ to get the hash)

All of _inmm's configuration tabs

The contents of the game directory

The contents of inmm.ini

Do NOT use Windows 95/98, DOSBox (the game works fine natively and we don't want complicating factors) or try to play CD audio tracks from an bin/cue (it might work for this game, but often results in looping issues with _inmm).

The video I linked also says to use _inmm 2.32 for a specific reason. 2.38 has issues freezing while switching tracks in this game. Should work though.

Thanks for answering!! Sorry for my English, I'm using the Google translator. When I run the game in Windows 7 I get the error "Can not load Glue Libraries" so I am testing it in Win98.Ls.exe Md5 06DCAC627547ECF737136E59F92AAFF4Ls.org Md5 133966B087C2FBF1807569FF0DDE599C

In c:\Layer Section\Music\Track02.mp3Track03.mp3Track04.mp3Track05.mp3Track06.mp3Track07.mp3Track08.mp3Track09.mp3Track10.mp3Track11.mp3Track12.mp3Track13.mp3Track14.mp3Track15.mp3Track16.mp3Track17.mp3Track18.mp3

Nariturbina wrote:Thanks for answering!! Sorry for my English, I'm using the Google translator. When I run the game in Windows 7 I get the error "Can not load Glue Libraries" so I am testing it in Win98.

That just means it can't load some libraries. Are you running the game in compatibility mode? The properties of LS.EXE should look like this:

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Well slightly different on Windows 7, but you get the picture: none of the settings in that page should be on.

If you're running in compatibility mode that's an important thing to mention (ANY change you make to the installation must be mentioned when asking for help) and the terminology of calling it compatibility mode specifically and not Windows 98 emulation or something is also important.

Another possibility is that _inmm is complaining about something, but it should give you an error message telling you what.

So disable compatibility mode if it's on and screenshot any messages _inmm gives you. Anyway, since I decided to install the game and look at it myself I found two more things to mention. First, you definitely need a ddraw wrapper. I'm not sure what I would recommend here. DXGL is easier to configure for sharp scaling, but dgVoodoo2 changes refresh rate (easier if you're on a 120hz+ refresh rate monitor).Secondly the file to patch with _inmm is AUDIO.DLL, not LS.EXE.

I checked and I'm not running Ls.exe in Compatibility Mode. Thanks for patching Audio.dll because I did not know. Now the hashes areAudio.dll md5 1EA9ACDE8A0E65ACDE4497B6B7F8F6BFAudio.org md5 7E0E095356F4FB1C254848895D6C9187And I keep giving this error in Windows 7

You really should not get that error, at all. Can you try removing everything in your game directory, reinstalling the game and then launch it without patching it with _inmm and see if you get the same error message?

I see this all the time and I have to ask... Why do you have DEP enabled for third party programs in the first place? It is not the default configuration for any Windows OS I have seen. The default Windows configuration has always been this:

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Just select the first radio button and all the 8 programs you've already had problems with will work and so will future programs.

I'm just so confused why I've seen so many people who have changed this setting. I'm vaguely guessing its a reading comprehension issue, that people think they have to select the second button to add exceptions to DEP without realizing when the first button means every non-Microsoft program is excepted from DEP. Is that the case? Did you read someone tell you to disable DEP for a game and you figured you had to select the second option to add it to the list?

Is it based on some popular tweak guide I haven't heard of that just fails to notify people of the compatibility problems this can introduce? Or maybe it's actually configured that way by default in some obscure Win7/8/10 versions?

Nariturbina wrote:Now I just need _inmm.dll to work, how did you configure it?

The configuration images you posted are correct. As long as you've patched AUDIO.DLL I have no idea what's wrong, possible _inmm.ini is referencing the wrong files (open it in a text editor and check), you didn't post its contents so I can't tell.

I agree, I knew that was the configuration of the DEP, but you see that Windows 7 changed it in some update and as I did not remember it was like that. But well now the game goes, and for those who are interested in the configuration of DXGL I was like this

If I can play the .mp3 files in my Media Player. Now I would be interested to review the steps of _inmm.dll to see where I'm wrong:1.- Uncompress _inmm232.zip in "c:\Program Files\_inmm\"2.- I apply the patch to Audio.dll. I'm left with these hashAudio.dll md5 1EA9ACDE8A0E65ACDE4497B6B7F8F6BFAudio.org md5 7E0E095356F4FB1C254848895D6C91873.- Configured _inmmcnf.exe and created the file _inmm.ini that saved in "c:\Program Files\LayerSection\" and it looks like this:C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track02.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track03.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track04.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track05.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track06.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track07.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track08.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track09.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track10.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track11.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track12.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track13.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track14.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track15.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track16.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track17.mp3C:\Program Files\LayerSection\Music\Track18.mp34.- Copy _inmm.dll to "c:\Program Files\LayerSection\"

1: Mismatched _inmm.dll and _inmmserv.exe versions. Whenever you run _inmmcnf.exe it will save a configuration in the registry key "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\irori\_inmm.dll". There there's a value named _inmmserv, make sure it's pointing to a 2.32 _inmmserv.exe. For some weird reason _inmm won't complain if there's a mismatch here, but won't play audio.

2: The LayerSection CD needs to be in your first disc drive by letter order to try to play audio (so if you have two CD drives D:\ and E:\, LayerSection needs to be in the D:\ drive). A lot of old games will just try to play CD audio from the first drive, this is usually a non-issue when using _inmm (since it will redirect the play calls anyway), but apparently LayerSection is special in that it checks for CD audio in the first drive before deciding whether or not to even try to play CD audio. Only game I've seen where this is an issue.

Yes yes yes yes you are a genius!!!! I checked the record with the editor and it was fine. Then I changed the letters of the disc drive so that the disc drive where I mounted the bin/cue image is the first and BUALA!!!! IT WORKED WITH MUSIC AND EVERYTHING!!!I made a small batch so that when the game starts I started an Xppader profile and when I close the game I also close Xpadder: open Notepad and copies @echo offSTART /D "c:\Program Files\LayerSection" LayerSectionP1.xpadderprofileSTART /wait /D "c:\Program Files\LayerSection" LS.exeecho wait until kill LS.exe is finishedecho then kill Xpadder.exetaskkill /im Xpadder.exeExit

and save it as LayerSection.bat then you have to create a shortcut to LayerSection.batAnd the profile of Xpadder I have it like this:

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