Christian Ponder, who has the league's best RB and league's only real run-first team still has nearly 90 more throwing attempts than RG3.

The fact that Shanahan only let RG3 throw 18 times in an absolute must-win game speaks for itself, let alone the fact he completed 9 passes and still won.

The Colts basically ride or die with Luck, and he has shouldered the load PLUS the fact that his head coach had cancer.

Luck ROY, not even a debate. Get your hype and Redskin love out of this thread.

I consider the colts run to be a fluke, because Luck did not play well enough for them to win games. Their season is some weird anomaly. I don't think Luck deserves rookie of the year because of that.

That's literally exactly what he did?

I say the colts won in spite of his failures as a qb.

You mean like the Redskins and RGIII down the stretch? You do realize since week 13 he only had 703 passing yds, 4TD in his last 4 games, missed another while watching Kirk win in his absence? Couple that with an entire division collapsing in those 5 weeks how exactly was his run not pure luck and a team winning inspite of his faliure to produce? Pot meet Kettle, Kettle meet Pot._________________Bird Watch: TE Zach Ertz: 10Gm/ 67Tgt //47 Rec//452 Yds//2 TD//9.6 Y/R

Christian Ponder, who has the league's best RB and league's only real run-first team still has nearly 90 more throwing attempts than RG3.

The fact that Shanahan only let RG3 throw 18 times in an absolute must-win game speaks for itself, let alone the fact he completed 9 passes and still won.

The Colts basically ride or die with Luck, and he has shouldered the load PLUS the fact that his head coach had cancer.

Luck ROY, not even a debate. Get your hype and Redskin love out of this thread.

I consider the colts run to be a fluke, because Luck did not play well enough for them to win games. Their season is some weird anomaly. I don't think Luck deserves rookie of the year because of that.

That's literally exactly what he did?

I say the colts won in spite of his failures as a qb.

You mean like Redskins and RGIII down the stretch? You do realize since week 13 he only had 703 passing yds, 4TD in his last 4 games, missed another while watching Kirk win in his absence? Couple that with an entire division collapsing in those 5 weeks how exactly was his run not pure luck and a team winning inspite of his faliure to produce? Pot meet Kettle, Kettle meet Pot.

I think Russell Wilson should win it. I thought I said that a few pages back._________________

Ninja is just hating, Wilson is easily the most laughable of the three.

rookie touchdown record and he did it as a 3rd round pick not a top 2 one.

More impressive.

In all honesty he deserves it more then RGIII. But like him having Skittles in the backfield will hurt him when voting comes down. When is the ROY handed out? If it's not for another two weeks or so which ever QB has more success might push them over the edge._________________Bird Watch: TE Zach Ertz: 10Gm/ 67Tgt //47 Rec//452 Yds//2 TD//9.6 Y/R

RGIII's going to win RoY, I don't even think that's really a question. He plays for the highest profile team of the 3, has the prettiest stats and has already been voted to the Pro Bowl_________________

We could argue this til we are blue in the face. But I agree with what Nabbs said I could see them pulling some crap like making Luck & Griffen co-OROY_________________Eagles Forum Hall of Famer | 2013 Gold Standard Baldy | 2015 Steegles Baldy | The Reigning ENBD Champion

The Colts running backs would probably have performed better if they were starting for the Redskins this year. The last several offensive staffs for the Colts aren't strong in coaching the running game.

The Colts running backs would probably have performed better if they were starting for the Redskins this year. The last several offensive staffs for the Colts aren't strong in coaching the running game.

Even though they suck. I don't think helping their case was Winston Justice, A.Q. Shipley and Mike McGlynn starting._________________
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