Did you type this, or did you copy and paste it from some Bible? The only "copy-and-pasteable" CS Bible I've found was in all modern Cyrillic alphabet.

I generally use Azbyka.ru but it spells out abbreviated words and only utilizes a select few of the archaic letters. To get "Бж҃ıе," I had to find the necessary characters elsewhere.

This attention to detail is why I love you.

Aw, shucks.

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"Take heed, you who listen to me: Our misfortune is inevitable, we cannot escape it. If God allows scandals, it is that the elect shall be revealed. Let them be burned, let them be purified, let them who have been tried be made manifest among you." - The Life of the Archpriest Avvakum by Himself

More specifically, it's from an adaption of that psalm bit in a prayer uttered by the Grand Prince at the consecration of the Church of the Tithes. This particular version of the full prayer, slightly different from what appears in the manuscripts of the Primary Chronicle, can be found in Russian here. The bolded parts of the initial lines are those words that appear on the icon itself:

"Lord God, look down from Heaven and behold, and visit Your vineyard, and accomplish that which Your right hand has planted. Look down upon this new people of Yours, whose hearts You have changed towards understanding, to know You, the True God!"

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"Take heed, you who listen to me: Our misfortune is inevitable, we cannot escape it. If God allows scandals, it is that the elect shall be revealed. Let them be burned, let them be purified, let them who have been tried be made manifest among you." - The Life of the Archpriest Avvakum by Himself

I accidentally quoted myself so here's the full prayer courtesy of OCA.org, which I had used as the basis for my translation:

"O Lord God, look down from Heaven and behold, and visit Your vineyard, which Your right hand has planted. And make this new people, whom You have converted in heart and mind to know You, the True God. And look down upon this Your church, which Your unworthy servant has built in the name of the Mother Who gave birth to Thee, the Ever-Virgin Theotokos. And whoever prays in this church, let his prayer be heard, through the prayers of the All-Pure Mother of God."

In my research, I found, however, that this likewise doesn't quite accord with the prayer as it appears in the Primary Chronicle, and is rather a translation of a different Russian variant.

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"Take heed, you who listen to me: Our misfortune is inevitable, we cannot escape it. If God allows scandals, it is that the elect shall be revealed. Let them be burned, let them be purified, let them who have been tried be made manifest among you." - The Life of the Archpriest Avvakum by Himself

6502-6504 (994-996). Vladimir, upon seeing his church completed, entered it and prayed to God, saying, "Lord God! Look down from heaven, behold and visit thy vineyard, and perfect what thy right hand has begun. Make these new people, whose heart thou hast turned unto wisdom, to know thee as the true God. Look upon this thy church which I, thine unworthy servant, have builded in the name of the Ever-Virgin Mother of-God who bore thee. Through the intercession of the Immaculate Virgin, hear the supplication of whosoever shall pray in this church." After he had offered this prayer, he added, "I bestow upon this church of the Holy Virgin a tithe of my property and of my cities." Then he wrote out a donation and deposited it in the church, declaring, "If anyone violates this promise, may he be accursed." So he gave the tithe to Anastasius of Kherson, and made a great festival on that day for the boyars and elders of the people, distributing also much largess to the poor.

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"May the Lord our God remember in His kingdom all Holy Catholic Apostolic Church, which heralds the Word of Truth and fearlessly offers and distributes the Holy Oblation despite human deficiencies and persecutions moved by the powers of this world, in all time and unto the ages of ages."

Did you translate that yourself, Rapha? If so, what source did you use?

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"Take heed, you who listen to me: Our misfortune is inevitable, we cannot escape it. If God allows scandals, it is that the elect shall be revealed. Let them be burned, let them be purified, let them who have been tried be made manifest among you." - The Life of the Archpriest Avvakum by Himself

Did you translate that yourself, Rapha? If so, what source did you use?

No, it's a Cambridge translation from the Laurentian text, you can easily find a PDF, but I don't think the forum rules allow these links. I really liked it, so I posted it here so it would be saved somewhere.

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"May the Lord our God remember in His kingdom all Holy Catholic Apostolic Church, which heralds the Word of Truth and fearlessly offers and distributes the Holy Oblation despite human deficiencies and persecutions moved by the powers of this world, in all time and unto the ages of ages."

Did you translate that yourself, Rapha? If so, what source did you use?

No, it's a Cambridge translation from the Laurentian text, you can easily find a PDF, but I don't think the forum rules allow these links. I really liked it, so I posted it here so it would be saved somewhere.

Thanks. All cards on the table, I have done no meaningful study of old Slavic languages and even my Russian is rather mediocre. The quote above helped me with some terms I might have mistaken otherwise. That said, the translator did make some questionable choices, not least of all being their refusal to deal with "Бц҃а" directly.

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"Take heed, you who listen to me: Our misfortune is inevitable, we cannot escape it. If God allows scandals, it is that the elect shall be revealed. Let them be burned, let them be purified, let them who have been tried be made manifest among you." - The Life of the Archpriest Avvakum by Himself

Lord, before You is all my desire, and my sighing is not hidden from You.

As a side note, the way his hand is positioned makes me think someone was trying to pull a fast one. The icon's style aside, it is potentially arguable whether he is blessing according to the Old Rite or the New.

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"Take heed, you who listen to me: Our misfortune is inevitable, we cannot escape it. If God allows scandals, it is that the elect shall be revealed. Let them be burned, let them be purified, let them who have been tried be made manifest among you." - The Life of the Archpriest Avvakum by Himself

"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

Quote from: Seekingtrue

Yes we who are far from sainthood we can recognize a living saint and I'm talking from personal experience.Yes they are gentle soo gentle it can not be described it is like gentleness and humility in one and also they have this light this energy it's beyond words...and when you are near them you feel ecstatic and very happy

"Podvig - this is, having forgotten yourself and your own good, to be a support for everyone. Podvig - this is a life for others."

The second line appears on the first icon.

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"Take heed, you who listen to me: Our misfortune is inevitable, we cannot escape it. If God allows scandals, it is that the elect shall be revealed. Let them be burned, let them be purified, let them who have been tried be made manifest among you." - The Life of the Archpriest Avvakum by Himself

I think it's something like "ready to endure all sufferings for Christ's sake", but hopefully Cunningham's Law will work here and you'll have a better answer.

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"May the Lord our God remember in His kingdom all Holy Catholic Apostolic Church, which heralds the Word of Truth and fearlessly offers and distributes the Holy Oblation despite human deficiencies and persecutions moved by the powers of this world, in all time and unto the ages of ages."

I think it's something like "ready to endure all sufferings for Christ's sake", but hopefully Cunningham's Law will work here and you'll have a better answer.

That's OK, just you have to add "BE ready..."

That's how I'd interpret it as well but I was thrown for a loop by the use of "являяся," which while somewhat resembling the modern Russian imperative "являйся," seems rather to be the equivalent of the present adverbial participle "являясь" as shown in its use in Acts 1:3.

I imagine it's just a lettering mistake but I may very well be missing something.

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"Take heed, you who listen to me: Our misfortune is inevitable, we cannot escape it. If God allows scandals, it is that the elect shall be revealed. Let them be burned, let them be purified, let them who have been tried be made manifest among you." - The Life of the Archpriest Avvakum by Himself

I think it's something like "ready to endure all sufferings for Christ's sake", but hopefully Cunningham's Law will work here and you'll have a better answer.

That's OK, just you have to add "BE ready..."

That's how I'd interpret it as well but I was thrown for a loop by the use of "являяся," which while somewhat resembling the modern Russian imperative "являйся," seems rather to be the equivalent of the present adverbial participle "являясь" as shown in its use in Acts 1:3.

I imagine it's just a lettering mistake but I may very well be missing something.

In the context of the Acts it's something like "He was appearing to them". In the context if this icon it could be translated "Be ready to expose yourself (gotov yavlyaysya) to all sufferings for Christ".

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Pray for persecuted Christians, especially in Serbian Kosovo and Raška, Egypt and Syria

When a time revolts against eternity, the only thing to set against it is genuine eternity itself, and not some other time which has already roused, and not without reason, a violent reaction against itself.

- Berdyaev

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Most of the final word is cut off but it could be "благодушественно," in which case just append "pleasantly" or "gently" or something of that fashion to the end.

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"Take heed, you who listen to me: Our misfortune is inevitable, we cannot escape it. If God allows scandals, it is that the elect shall be revealed. Let them be burned, let them be purified, let them who have been tried be made manifest among you." - The Life of the Archpriest Avvakum by Himself

"Take heed, you who listen to me: Our misfortune is inevitable, we cannot escape it. If God allows scandals, it is that the elect shall be revealed. Let them be burned, let them be purified, let them who have been tried be made manifest among you." - The Life of the Archpriest Avvakum by Himself

Curiously the word for "Master" lacks two of its three vowels but doesn't have an abbreviation mark either.

Couldn't tell you what the context is or what other words might be missing.

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"Take heed, you who listen to me: Our misfortune is inevitable, we cannot escape it. If God allows scandals, it is that the elect shall be revealed. Let them be burned, let them be purified, let them who have been tried be made manifest among you." - The Life of the Archpriest Avvakum by Himself

"Take heed, you who listen to me: Our misfortune is inevitable, we cannot escape it. If God allows scandals, it is that the elect shall be revealed. Let them be burned, let them be purified, let them who have been tried be made manifest among you." - The Life of the Archpriest Avvakum by Himself

Oh, I took Dominika to mean that "yaya" was an ordinary word for "egg" in some Slavic language (then my mind started trying to connect it etymologically to "ova").

You understood her just fine, and your etymological suspicion is correct, but the joke probably works better in a spoken rather than written form, at least in Polish. For those familiar with what seems to be near-universal Slavic slang, there might also be a somewhat more vulgar joke in there too.

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"Take heed, you who listen to me: Our misfortune is inevitable, we cannot escape it. If God allows scandals, it is that the elect shall be revealed. Let them be burned, let them be purified, let them who have been tried be made manifest among you." - The Life of the Archpriest Avvakum by Himself

Oh, I took Dominika to mean that "yaya" was an ordinary word for "egg" in some Slavic language (then my mind started trying to connect it etymologically to "ova").

You understood her just fine, and your etymological suspicion is correct, but the joke probably works better in a spoken rather than written form, at least in Polish. For those familiar with what seems to be near-universal Slavic slang, there might also be a somewhat more vulgar joke in there too.

Yeah, that's it.

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Pray for persecuted Christians, especially in Serbian Kosovo and Raška, Egypt and Syria

In KJV: "Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness."

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"May the Lord our God remember in His kingdom all Holy Catholic Apostolic Church, which heralds the Word of Truth and fearlessly offers and distributes the Holy Oblation despite human deficiencies and persecutions moved by the powers of this world, in all time and unto the ages of ages."