__________________President Obama kept Republicans out of the White House for 8 years and added two excellent justices to the Supreme Court. Those two things alone make him one of our greatest Presidents of my lifetime.

The first 48 hours has clearly shown the Trump Administration will be under great scrutiny. That's never a surprise for an incoming President but this go round will most certainly reach new heights.

Over 50% of those voting Dem or Republican voted against Donald Trump. Millions more voted for some other Party. A huge built in opposition is already in place. Again, this isn't new. However, to this we add many establishment and/or never-Trump Republicans who won't hesitate to join the chorus criticizing this new Administration. It's akin to two remaining parties criticizing the Independent winner. Finally, I'm guessing many of those who voted for Trump may have been anti-Hillary voters who probably wouldn't care for a minute if Trump resigned in his first month and allowed VP Pence to take over. This is yet another segment of the population who I'm guessing won't hesitate criticizing this new President if he goes against their wishes.

We're not just talking private individuals who will openly criticize President Trump these next four years. We all know there are right leaning websites and right leaning talk radio hosts who are eagerly waiting to be critical of Donald Trump. This latter group will be the most significant, imo. They will give the MSM media, who many on the Right feel are far too biased, an open lane for holding President Trump accountable. Once we see the MSM, Conservative talk radio hosts, and right leaning websites all simultaneously sharing their criticism of President Trump, any fear the MSM may have about not being fair will be completely erased. It would be hard to call out the MSM if Conservatives are voicing the same criticisms.

The chances we see a very turbulent four years are extremely high. Maybe there will be a sympathy factor if all sides are critical, or maybe President Trump surrounds himself with members from both Parties to help buffer this potential criticism. I don't know but I have to believe this is going to be far different than previous Administrations where only two sides generally bang heads. Whatever the case might be, may this criticism now wait until the "new President" takes an action which can be judged. We've gone from candidate to President elect and it might make sense to wait for this new individual to act before we criticize.__________________President Obama kept Republicans out of the White House for 8 years and added two excellent justices to the Supreme Court. Those two things alone make him one of our greatest Presidents of my lifetime.

Originally Posted by Dewey Finally, I'm guessing many of those who voted for Trump may have been anti-Hillary voters who probably wouldn't care for a minute if Trump resigned in his first month and allowed VP Pence to take over. Preferred This is yet another segment of the population who I'm guessing won't hesitate criticizing this new President if he goes against their wishes.

Your wife must be proud to have married such a smart man. Your candidate is a liar, a thief, a crook, a murderer, an elitist that said one thing and did another. Worst candidate for president in United States history. She didn't need the keys back to the White House, there wasn't enough security in the place to keep her from stealing the kitchen utensils__________________"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me"

Originally Posted by DeweyThe first 48 hours has clearly shown the Trump Administration will be under great scrutiny. That's never a surprise for an incoming President but this go round will most certainly reach new heights.

Over 50% of those voting Dem or Republican voted against Donald Trump. Millions more voted for some other Party. A huge built in opposition is already in place. Again, this isn't new. However, to this we add many establishment and/or never-Trump Republicans who won't hesitate to join the chorus criticizing this new Administration. It's akin to two remaining parties criticizing the Independent winner. Finally, I'm guessing many of those who voted for Trump may have been anti-Hillary voters who probably wouldn't care for a minute if Trump resigned in his first month and allowed VP Pence to take over. This is yet another segment of the population who I'm guessing won't hesitate criticizing this new President if he goes against their wishes.

We're not just talking private individuals who will openly criticize President Trump these next four years. We all know there are right leaning websites and right leaning talk radio hosts who are eagerly waiting to be critical of Donald Trump. This latter group will be the most significant, imo. They will give the MSM media, who many on the Right feel are far too biased, an open lane for holding President Trump accountable. Once we see the MSM, Conservative talk radio hosts, and right leaning websites all simultaneously sharing their criticism of President Trump, any fear the MSM may have about not being fair will be completely erased. It would be hard to call out the MSM if Conservatives are voicing the same criticisms.

The chances we see a very turbulent four years are extremely high. Maybe there will be a sympathy factor if all sides are critical, or maybe President Trump surrounds himself with members from both Parties to help buffer this potential criticism. I don't know but I have to believe this is going to be far different than previous Administrations where only two sides generally bang heads. Whatever the case might be, may this criticism now wait until the "new President" takes an action which can be judged. We've gone from candidate to President elect and it might make sense to wait for this new individual to act before we criticize.

Perhaps time to remind you of how US elections work. One wins one loses. Elections mean something.

The lefty losers marching through the streets think that threats of violence can somehow replace their responsibilities to get a job and provide for themselves. They might find this time around we are willing to tell them to go f'ck themselves.

When they go off they mostly destroy democratic crap anyway. So no real loss.__________________You stick your middle finger in my face, and you interpret that the way you see fit. I'll interpret it the way I see fit. Then we can figure it out together.

Cable news channels, to name one example, spend eight years protesting a sitting President. Those who don't have networks, gather and march with signs. If marchers interfere with Americans trying to live their lives, or damage property, then that's beyond the pale. Otherwise, street protesters are much like other individuals who want their voices heard.__________________President Obama kept Republicans out of the White House for 8 years and added two excellent justices to the Supreme Court. Those two things alone make him one of our greatest Presidents of my lifetime.

Originally Posted by DeweyCable news channels, to name one example, spend eight years protesting a sitting President. Those who don't have networks, gather and march with signs. If marchers interfere with Americans trying to live their lives, or damage property, then that's beyond the pale. Otherwise, street protesters are much like other individuals who want their voices heard.

Some of these protesters believe burglaries of campaign hotel rooms, or invasion of privacy as it relates to a campaign's staff, represents criminal wrong-doing and cheating. I suspect some want to voice their complaints and my only hope is they do it in a civil and legal manner. Those who don't object about activities like these, and remain silent, are the citizens that would concern me.

Listen, this is a time for the Trump supporters to celebrate and champion their new President. They won and I have no interest in raining on their parade. But if the decision by the Right is to continue bashing the Left, despite winning, then I'm not sure what it will ultimately take to satisfy them.

Edit: Bluedog, I agree with you. They shouldn't keep folks from getting where they need to go.__________________President Obama kept Republicans out of the White House for 8 years and added two excellent justices to the Supreme Court. Those two things alone make him one of our greatest Presidents of my lifetime.

If this Country ever allowed a civil protest to alter an election, we'd be done as a Country.__________________President Obama kept Republicans out of the White House for 8 years and added two excellent justices to the Supreme Court. Those two things alone make him one of our greatest Presidents of my lifetime.

Originally Posted by DeweySome of these protesters believe burglaries of campaign hotel rooms, or invasion of privacy as it relates to a campaign's staff, represents criminal wrong-doing and cheating. I suspect some want to voice their complaints and my only hope is they do it in a civil and legal manner. Those who don't object about activities like these, and remain silent, are the citizens that would concern me.

Listen, this is a time for the Trump supporters to celebrate and champion their new President. They won and I have no interest in raining on their parade. But if the decision by the Right is to continue bashing the Left, despite winning, then I'm not sure what it will ultimately take to satisfy them.

Edit: Bluedog, I agree with you. They shouldn't keep folks from getting where they need to go.

I would venture a guess that almost all of these "protestors" have no idea what you said even means.

pabar - I'm confident many of these young people know about Watergate. Nonetheless, they know about Wikileaks, they know about late campaign questionable leaks from the FBI, and they know what's behind charges claiming someone is not an American citizen, or that somebody's Dad runs with Lee Harvey Oswald. These events, these unethical if not illegal actions, were blatant enough to cause many Americans, let alone these protesting in the streets, to question the fairness that takes place in our campaigns. Please let them voice that concern but, at the same time, feel free to call out protesters who break the law. I'd just keep mum for awhile if I were a Trump supporter, and I'd quietly move into the WH if I were Donald Trump.__________________President Obama kept Republicans out of the White House for 8 years and added two excellent justices to the Supreme Court. Those two things alone make him one of our greatest Presidents of my lifetime.

Edit to add: Some of these protestors are angry about the fairness of the democratic primary that was given to Hillary. Have you ever addressed that here? Would be curious to hear your take on it as a democrat.

bluedog - I meant be quiet about these protesters, not about the election. You Trump supporters should be dancing in the streets for what you pulled off here.__________________President Obama kept Republicans out of the White House for 8 years and added two excellent justices to the Supreme Court. Those two things alone make him one of our greatest Presidents of my lifetime.

"You Liberals crying for open borders for the most part, don't live on the border. You are therefore insulated from illegal immigration. You are immune from the local costs involved, both economic, and in lives lost. So unless you live down here, and bear the burden, STFU about "immigration reform". You know nothing, and are better suited to eating bandwidth and scones at a Starbucks than telling me what I should feel. Arrogant Pissants."__________________"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me"

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