I believe OBL is dead. I won't believe another leaked detail of that mission until they come clean about the helicopter that was shot down and the soldiers that died on that mission, and why the US reported their deaths in a "different" helicopter crash weeks later.

Nana's Vibrator:I believe OBL is dead. I won't believe another leaked detail of that mission until they come clean about the helicopter that was shot down and the soldiers that died on that mission, and why the US reported their deaths in a "different" helicopter crash weeks later.

calm like a bomb:Nana's Vibrator: I believe OBL is dead. I won't believe another leaked detail of that mission until they come clean about the helicopter that was shot down and the soldiers that died on that mission, and why the US reported their deaths in a "different" helicopter crash weeks later.

Nana's Vibrator:I'm not a tinfoil hat guy, but c'mon. A helicopter crash at Bin Laden's compound? No deaths? Then the same guys die a couple of weeks later?

1. The crash was caused when a rotor clipped a wall when the copter was probably 10ft off the ground, so the crash was survivable.2. Seal Team Six has an estimated 200 members, and they get shot at a lot3. None of the operators involved in the Bin Laden raid were involved in the second crash.

calm like a bomb:Nana's Vibrator: I'm not a tinfoil hat guy, but c'mon. A helicopter crash at Bin Laden's compound? No deaths? Then the same guys die a couple of weeks later?

1. The crash was caused when a rotor clipped a wall when the copter was probably 10ft off the ground, so the crash was survivable.2. Seal Team Six has an estimated 200 members, and they get shot at a lot3. None of the operators involved in the Bin Laden raid were involved in the second crash.

I'll grab the Reynolds Wrap. What's your hat size?

If it's like that, fine. The only problem I have is with helicopter crashes. I'm not a truther, birther, moon stage studio whatever. Skip the brand name foil stuff and buy the wholesale generic foil. Spend the money you save for that US flag-painted buttplug you've had your eyes on lately.And don't mistake my distrust of government information and propaganda. Regardless of how or where those soldiers died, I in no way am slighting their sacrifice.

Nana's Vibrator:If it's like that, fine. The only problem I have is with helicopter crashes. I'm not a truther, birther, moon stage studio whatever. Skip the brand name foil stuff and buy the wholesale generic foil. Spend the money you save for that US flag-painted buttplug you've had your eyes on lately.

Settle down, Francis. I was just jerking your chain a little. And I don't need a buttplug; that's what I've got your mother for.

Tickle Mittens:Farnn: hugram: greggm59: No matter how it happened, I'm just glad that the evil bastard got what he deserved. It's good knowing that his last moments were spent looking at the muzzle of a SEAL's weapon.

QFT...

What I still find puzzling is why certain people from the Right don't seem too happy that OBL is in fact dead.

What I find puzzling is how so many on the left seem to be okay with straight up murder when their guy is in office. And I don't just mean Osama but also the American cleric in Yemen who was given none of the rights provided for in the constitution.

War is legal massmurder. Accept that. When Admiral Yamamoto, who was stripped of command authority and a political figurehead at the time, was defeated with a headshot from an American fighter it was a political assassination. The only military value in that act was the damage it would do to Japanese moral, and under the executive orders that are in effect now would be illegal.

Your account of Yamamoto's death is wrong. Not certain if you are intentionally wrong, or maybe just confused Yamamoto with someone else. Here is a link that shows Yamamoto's transport plane ws shot down by Americans. Yes it is Wiki, but there are dozens and dozens of books that cover the ambush. Yamamoto was killed in the crash.

Yep, SEALS are only as good as the helicopter gunships or artillery supporting them, LOL. It's funny how a Fark libtard will never, ever, EVER show any respect for ANYONE in the military. If it's one thing that cowards despise, it's anyone with balls.

So being ready to send troops into harms way even in the face of manufactured evidence, keeping them from rotating out and destroying the civilian careers or reservists and national gaurd members to make up for slow recruitement numbers is the proper conservative way to show respect to military service members?

calm like a bomb:Nana's Vibrator: If it's like that, fine. The only problem I have is with helicopter crashes. I'm not a truther, birther, moon stage studio whatever. Skip the brand name foil stuff and buy the wholesale generic foil. Spend the money you save for that US flag-painted buttplug you've had your eyes on lately.

Settle down, Francis. I was just jerking your chain a little. And I don't need a buttplug; that's what I've got your mother for.

starsrift:calm like a bomb: Nana's Vibrator: If it's like that, fine. The only problem I have is with helicopter crashes. I'm not a truther, birther, moon stage studio whatever. Skip the brand name foil stuff and buy the wholesale generic foil. Spend the money you save for that US flag-painted buttplug you've had your eyes on lately.

Settle down, Francis. I was just jerking your chain a little. And I don't need a buttplug; that's what I've got your mother for.

calm like a bomb:Nana's Vibrator: If it's like that, fine. The only problem I have is with helicopter crashes. I'm not a truther, birther, moon stage studio whatever. Skip the brand name foil stuff and buy the wholesale generic foil. Spend the money you save for that US flag-painted buttplug you've had your eyes on lately.

Settle down, Francis. I was just jerking your chain a little. And I don't need a buttplug; that's what I've got your mother for.

I was chain jerking, too. Harsh isn't always funny, but on meth and in the Northeast US it is. I really don't even want to know how anyone would be a valid replacement for a star spangled buttplug. Maybe fist people while singing patriotic songs? And twist it when you get to "rockets red GLARE!"

calm like a bomb:Nana's Vibrator: If it's like that, fine. The only problem I have is with helicopter crashes. I'm not a truther, birther, moon stage studio whatever. Skip the brand name foil stuff and buy the wholesale generic foil. Spend the money you save for that US flag-painted buttplug you've had your eyes on lately.

Settle down, Francis. I was just jerking your chain a little. And I don't need a buttplug; that's what I've got your mother for.

Am I the only one that doesn't find the author credible? The Seal Team members are disciplined to enough to do the job they have to do in one of the most elite organizations in the world, but not disciplined to keep their yaps shut about it like you know they were told to do?

Bennie Crabtree:The SEAL doesn't seem realistic to me. It is not that leaders are pussies. it is that leaders expect to be treated like leaders or statesmen. You see, if Bin Laden was white and leading white people, the leaders of the enemy would be treated as respected politicians (like Slobodan Milosevic, or other white politicians have been treated by the USA in the past, when they promote genocide and terrorism).

I bet that what the SEAL member saw was the leadership of the other side, being surprised at the extent of racism. Bin Laden expected to be captured and treated like a military or political leader. Instead he was treated like non-whites throughout the history of European imperialism. Just another bunch of Hottentots and Aboriginees to be pacified.

I actually am very glad that the SEAL team killed Bin Laden. What I am annoyed with is the traditional double standard of the American State Department, that allows stuff like the Serbian genocide to occur because they coddle maniacs who have white enough skin, while they treat non-white terrorists appropriately. Doesn't the SEAL in this article have any self-awareness at all?

manimal2878:Am I the only one that doesn't find the author credible? The Seal Team members are disciplined to enough to do the job they have to do in one of the most elite organizations in the world, but not disciplined to keep their yaps shut about it like you know they were told to do?

Have you searched "SEAL" on Amazon lately? There's dozens of books by former/retired SEALs who talk about their careers.

spacelord321:That said, I have spent time with many of martial artists who I'm certain would give any SEAL an even fight. I've also met many a straight up badass criminals that never back down, and never have to. Also, I've met many of "redneck" (my words) hunters that could match them in a firefight. The only difference seems to be the disdain for authoritarianism or the lack of obligation to kill, and the absence of the most heavily funded backup support known to man.

And I am sure that the martial artists, badass criminals, and redneck hunters have the exact merit, training, courage, and mental toughness as the SEALs do. My money, every time, will be on a SEAL. Book it.

Funny thing, but aside form the rights to all things "Seal team 6" getting sold off to Disney shortly afterwards, wasn't this entire Seal team killed in a helicopter downing soon afterwards in Afghanistan?

Bennie Crabtree:The SEAL doesn't seem realistic to me. It is not that leaders are pussies. it is that leaders expect to be treated like leaders or statesmen. You see, if Bin Laden was white and leading white people, the leaders of the enemy would be treated as respected politicians (like Slobodan Milosevic, or other white politicians have been treated by the USA in the past, when they promote genocide and terrorism).

I bet that what the SEAL member saw was the leadership of the other side, being surprised at the extent of racism. Bin Laden expected to be captured and treated like a military or political leader. Instead he was treated like non-whites throughout the history of European imperialism. Just another bunch of Hottentots and Aboriginees to be pacified.

I actually am very glad that the SEAL team killed Bin Laden. What I am annoyed with is the traditional double standard of the American State Department, that allows stuff like the Serbian genocide to occur because they coddle maniacs who have white enough skin, while they treat non-white terrorists appropriately. Doesn't the SEAL in this article have any self-awareness at all?

You racist fark. The double standard isn't race, it's ELECTIONS. Try and remember that next time.

omnipotent_speck:Funny thing, but aside form the rights to all things "Seal team 6" getting sold off to Disney shortly afterwards, wasn't this entire Seal team killed in a helicopter downing soon afterwards in Afghanistan?

No - see above. A helicopter crash did kill a bunch of guys from six, but they weren't the same ones that were on the OBL raid.

Could you Farkwads stop calling it SEAL team 6? It's been DevGru for a few years now...

I seriously question anyone calling themselves a member of SEAL Team 6 unless they either A) Retired from the Navy when ST6 was still its official name, or B someone who watches too many movies and reads too many internet boards...

King Something:hugram: greggm59: No matter how it happened, I'm just glad that the evil bastard got what he deserved. It's good knowing that his last moments were spent looking at the muzzle of a SEAL's weapon.

QFT...

What I still find puzzling is why certain people from the Right don't seem too happy that OBL is in fact dead.

It's the fact that OBL was whacked by a black democrat which has got their knickers in a knot.

The fact is...the following two quotes are what got OBL 'whacked' not "a black democrat" Just sayin'

kim jong-un:The amazing thing about SEALs is the logistical and intelligence system that supports them.

Fuggin Bizzy:kim jong-un: The amazing thing about SEALs is the logistical and intelligence system that supports them.

I'd have gone with their gigantic brass balls, but logistics and intel are cool too I guess.

You mean after meeting with CIA officers in a Dubai hospital in Summer 2001 where he was undergoing dialysis treatment for Marfans disease, which is degenerative and always ends in complete renal system failure? Which by itself would be amazing but then there doesn't appear to have been any medical equipment at all in the house that was raided. Also there have been various reports of different Bin Ladens in some of those videos released over the years.

Th situation brings to mind something Bill Hicks used to say about his visit to Dealey Plaza:

"It's called "The Sniper's Nest"...boxes are set up...It's glassed in, you can't actually get to the window...and the reason they did that is because... they didn't want thousands of tourists each year coming through to the window goin'...'NO farking WAY.' Yeah, that would've started this TRUTH INERTIA happening... You can get to the window next to it and say "I can't even see the ROAD from here...there's a TREE right here... but it's very accurate 'cuz Oswalt's not in it! Painstaking in their accuracy."

gretzkyscores:clyph: Obama ran as a progressive; as president he's been a moderate conservative. That hasn't escaped people's notice. They'll still vote for him the second time around because a moderate conservative is better than a reactionary one most people have the political acumen of lemmings and are easily manipulated by simplistic rhetoric and empty promises.

spacelord321:Uisce Beatha: spacelord321: You need to get out more, and meet more of humanity. But, as you said, we will agree to disagree.

I've met plenty, thanks. I've also spent the last 6 years or so doing support work for various SF groups, so I've met a lot of them. I am a pretty proud person, but they are definitely a breed apart.

Ok. No offense intended. Got a little carried away with the common vernacular.

That said, I have spent time with many of martial artists who I'm certain would give any SEAL an even fight. I've also met many a straight up badass criminals that never back down, and never have to. Also, I've met many of "redneck" (my words) hunters that could match them in a firefight. The only difference seems to be the disdain for authoritarianism or the lack of obligation to kill, and the absence of the most heavily funded backup support known to man.

abhorrent1:spacelord321: That said, I have spent time with many of martial artists who I'm certain would give any SEAL an even fight. I've also met many a straight up badass criminals that never back down, and never have to. Also, I've met many of "redneck" (my words) hunters that could match them in a firefight. The only difference seems to be the disdain for authoritarianism or the lack of obligation to kill, and the absence of the most heavily funded backup support known to man.

900RR:spacelord321: Uisce Beatha: spacelord321: You need to get out more, and meet more of humanity. But, as you said, we will agree to disagree.

I've met plenty, thanks. I've also spent the last 6 years or so doing support work for various SF groups, so I've met a lot of them. I am a pretty proud person, but they are definitely a breed apart.

Ok. No offense intended. Got a little carried away with the common vernacular.

That said, I have spent time with many of martial artists who I'm certain would give any SEAL an even fight. I've also met many a straight up badass criminals that never back down, and never have to. Also, I've met many of "redneck" (my words) hunters that could match them in a firefight. The only difference seems to be the disdain for authoritarianism or the lack of obligation to kill, and the absence of the most heavily funded backup support known to man.

Yep, SEALS are only as good as the helicopter gunships or artillery supporting them, LOL. It's funny how a Fark libtard will never, ever, EVER show any respect for ANYONE in the military. If it's one thing that cowards despise, it's anyone with balls.

Timmy the Tumor:900RR: spacelord321: Uisce Beatha: spacelord321: You need to get out more, and meet more of humanity. But, as you said, we will agree to disagree.

I've met plenty, thanks. I've also spent the last 6 years or so doing support work for various SF groups, so I've met a lot of them. I am a pretty proud person, but they are definitely a breed apart.

Ok. No offense intended. Got a little carried away with the common vernacular.

That said, I have spent time with many of martial artists who I'm certain would give any SEAL an even fight. I've also met many a straight up badass criminals that never back down, and never have to. Also, I've met many of "redneck" (my words) hunters that could match them in a firefight. The only difference seems to be the disdain for authoritarianism or the lack of obligation to kill, and the absence of the most heavily funded backup support known to man.

Yep, SEALS are only as good as the helicopter gunships or artillery supporting them, LOL. It's funny how a Fark libtard will never, ever, EVER show any respect for ANYONE in the military. If it's one thing that cowards despise, it's anyone with balls.

well, yeah, because no SEAL ever accomplished a mission without a room full of intel geeks and a gigantic mainframe computer system...

Timmy the Tumor:calm like a bomb: Nana's Vibrator: If it's like that, fine. The only problem I have is with helicopter crashes. I'm not a truther, birther, moon stage studio whatever. Skip the brand name foil stuff and buy the wholesale generic foil. Spend the money you save for that US flag-painted buttplug you've had your eyes on lately.

Settle down, Francis. I was just jerking your chain a little. And I don't need a buttplug; that's what I've got your mother for.

sid244:spacelord321:That said, I have spent time with many of martial artists who I'm certain would give any SEAL an even fight. I've also met many a straight up badass criminals that never back down, and never have to. Also, I've met many of "redneck" (my words) hunters that could match them in a firefight. The only difference seems to be the disdain for authoritarianism or the lack of obligation to kill, and the absence of the most heavily funded backup support known to man.

And I am sure that the martial artists, badass criminals, and redneck hunters have the exact merit, training, courage, and mental toughness as the SEALs do. My money, every time, will be on a SEAL. Book it.

"You're either trained or untrained. Which one are you?"[www.cineastentreff.de image 680x449]

Ok. Some people have that devotion to training without the military, however. Obviously I am not one of them or I would not be wasting time on fark.

Beeblebrox:spacelord321: Uisce Beatha: spacelord321: You need to get out more, and meet more of humanity. But, as you said, we will agree to disagree.

I've met plenty, thanks. I've also spent the last 6 years or so doing support work for various SF groups, so I've met a lot of them. I am a pretty proud person, but they are definitely a breed apart.

Ok. No offense intended. Got a little carried away with the common vernacular.

That said, I have spent time with many of martial artists who I'm certain would give any SEAL an even fight. I've also met many a straight up badass criminals that never back down, and never have to. Also, I've met many of "redneck" (my words) hunters that could match them in a firefight. The only difference seems to be the disdain for authoritarianism or the lack of obligation to kill, and the absence of the most heavily funded backup support known to man.

Your redneck hunters rarely have elk shooting back at them.

Good point. Quite a few were vietnam vets, so they may have an idea what it's like though.

chuggernaught:Tickle Mittens: Farnn: hugram: greggm59: No matter how it happened, I'm just glad that the evil bastard got what he deserved. It's good knowing that his last moments were spent looking at the muzzle of a SEAL's weapon.

QFT...

What I still find puzzling is why certain people from the Right don't seem too happy that OBL is in fact dead.

What I find puzzling is how so many on the left seem to be okay with straight up murder when their guy is in office. And I don't just mean Osama but also the American cleric in Yemen who was given none of the rights provided for in the constitution.

War is legal massmurder. Accept that. When Admiral Yamamoto, who was stripped of command authority and a political figurehead at the time, was defeated with a headshot from an American fighter it was a political assassination. The only military value in that act was the damage it would do to Japanese moral, and under the executive orders that are in effect now would be illegal.

Your account of Yamamoto's death is wrong. Not certain if you are intentionally wrong, or maybe just confused Yamamoto with someone else. Here is a link that shows Yamamoto's transport plane ws shot down by Americans. Yes it is Wiki, but there are dozens and dozens of books that cover the ambush. Yamamoto was killed in the crash.

Ilmarinen:umad: Yes, all criticism of our current President is only due to racism. You guys are so oppressed. Wait, that's the wrong word. Pathetic, that's what I was looking for. You guys are pathetic.

So what's the criticism here? That Obama didn't pull the trigger himself?

Hell if I know how you guys read criticism of Obama from "Bin Laden was a pussy." My knee-jerk-always-the-victim reflex is defective though.

Ilmarinen:umad: Yes, all criticism of our current President is only due to racism. You guys are so oppressed. Wait, that's the wrong word. Pathetic, that's what I was looking for. You guys are pathetic.

So what's the criticism here? That Obama didn't pull the trigger himself?

Well, Bush 43 was right down in the shiat in Iraq disabling IEDs, wasn't he? That's how a CinC is supposed to lead.

spacelord321:That said, I have spent time with many of martial artists who I'm certain would give any SEAL an even fight. I've also met many a straight up badass criminals that never back down, and never have to. Also, I've met many of "redneck" (my words) hunters that could match them in a firefight. The only difference ...

omfg, just stop talking. That has got to be the dumbest thing I've read in a long long time. Just go back to jacking off to Red Dawn, thinking it's a documentary.