It is hard to get accurate info on the gradient from Strava. It seems to be a very noisy parameter and jump around all over the place. That last km or so of Bowen is steep. Seems to be around 15% and go for a good half a km atleast at one point. How does Wark compare to that?

vosadrian wrote:So Wark is much worse than Bowen? Steeper, Longer? All of the above?

It is hard to get accurate info on the gradient from Strava. It seems to be a very noisy parameter and jump around all over the place. That last km or so of Bowen is steep. Seems to be around 15% and go for a good half a km atleast at one point. How does Wark compare to that?

I wouldnt say 'col de wark' is steeper, but certainly a couple of bowen like sections and definitely longer..After climbing Bell Bird for about 4.5+km then you turn left to wark hill rd which is prob the steepest part of 'col de wark', it hurts.

vosadrian wrote:So Wark is much worse than Bowen? Steeper, Longer? All of the above?

It is hard to get accurate info on the gradient from Strava. It seems to be a very noisy parameter and jump around all over the place. That last km or so of Bowen is steep. Seems to be around 15% and go for a good half a km atleast at one point. How does Wark compare to that?

I wouldnt say 'col de wark' is steeper, but certainly a couple of bowen like sections and definitely longer..After climbing Bell Bird for about 4.5+km then you turn left to wark hill rd which is prob the steepest part of 'col de wark', it hurts.

If we were starting at 6am, there is no question I'm there. 5am at Norwest/Windsor, on the northern onramp corner... I'll struggle, that's a 4:30am wakeup which is getting suspiciously like an all nighter to me. I'm all for HTFULADS but my alarm is only so loud

Yeah it's about 20 minutes from home for me to the start point. Fair enough to start rolling at 5:15 sharp, moving around 25kmh until Sunnyholt, and then it's on? I'm assuming we'd be doing 33-34 avg out to Richmond, if my last attempt to chase you on TNFPR indicated anything... shame I am not allowed to buy your Zipps, eon, would help me keep up a lot!

I stayed up last night till the last 6-8kms.. i just remember contador attacking the downhill then they got to the foot of the climb. then fell asleep.woke up and they showing the results watched highlights in the morn instead... now frieken shattered at work.

Xplora wrote:I'm assuming we'd be doing 33-34 avg out to Richmond, shame I am not allowed to buy your Zipps, eon, would help me keep up a lot!

you'd be fine dude, but if you really want the 606.. more like 30-32. I don't want to be smashed before we even get to the start. but if you guys want to Smash/TT the flat, i'm happy to wheel suck

Should we just start rolling along Windsor northbound in the small ring (say 25kmh) to allow people to catch up, and then once we've either got everyone, or got to Sunnyholt, we ramp it up? Gives a chance for late risers, and probably a sensible warmup routine because I'm more than happy to TT the group out to Richmond if we roll a couple short turns.

Should we just start rolling along Windsor northbound in the small ring (say 25kmh) to allow people to catch up, and then once we've either got everyone, or got to Sunnyholt, we ramp it up? Gives a chance for late risers, and probably a sensible warmup routine because I'm more than happy to TT the group out to Richmond if we roll a couple short turns.

Lets just start at 530. If noone there will jus roll.. TT to wark. Hurt like a bitch up, wohoooo on the way down, then TT back home:)N be home bout 930.

OK I've just checked where the start of the Norwester segment is, and I got the wrong end. I will meet you guys at the Kellyville Maccas at 5:40 as per eon's mate, that's the easiest thing for me. Will be just as fast as mucking around with Bella Vista, save a lot of time because Sunnyholt at 6am is a quick run I'm softing out on the M7 climb today though; overcooked it today and ended up on 180bpm HR.

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