Migrant incident at Dieppe

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Today, 08:31 PM

We went out on the Euro Tunnel on 24th October, 6.30am train and had no problems at all - no delays, didn't see anyone at all. We thought it would be safer travelling with children to come back a different route so decided on Dieppe.

Last night we spent the evening driving around and around trying to get into one of the aires - no luck, all full, so drove down to the port to see if we could stay there - BINGO - immigrants about 20+ on the roundabout. We decided to try and get on the ferry that night but it was full - because there were only 2 security guards who were getting abuse from the immigrants we decided it was safer to stay out of town so went to an aires 20 miles out which was busy but we squeezed in.

We left the site at 3.30am in the dark and fog, 10 miles from the port there was a flashing light in the distance - we thought it might me a mad jogger or someone broken down, but as we got closer we realised there were some people at the side of the road (D926) hidden behind the barrier shining a light to make you slow down - we realised what was happening so didn't and they threw something at the motor home (possible rotten fruit or a stone).
Im sure we werent the only ones targeted last night in that area. We put our foot down and didn't slow down for anything and reported the incident at the port.

Be aware on the roads - its not just close to the ports or Calais any more - keep your eyes open. Once at the port they then pulled a 10 year old boy out from a Luton van from the gap between the lifted tailgate and the van! We will certainly be thinking about our times of travel in future.

these people are getting even more desperate now winter is coming. where ever they see an opportunity they will jump on it no matter how dangerous or damage they cause. the french just turn a blind eye as they need them gone

Best bet is to travel in the day, we very rarely see any of these immigrants anywhere near the port in daylight, and most times, we cross early morning to France and try and return to the UK around midday

I think you may have the wrong title @ScotJimland , no mention of Dieppe in the quote only the Eurotunnel & Calais also the D926 is in the south of France.
We have been through Dieppe 4 times this year, last time on the 22nd October no signs of any problems.

Lenny

Must stop replying to these posts & do some work I need the dosh so I can afford to use the van.

I think you may have the wrong title @ScotJimland , no mention of Dieppe in the quote only the Eurotunnel & Calais also the D926 is in the south of France.
We have been through Dieppe 4 times this year, last time on the 22nd October no signs of any problems.

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There could be many D926's in France, the D denotes a Departmental road and there are many Departments in France.

I think you may have the wrong title @ScotJimland , no mention of Dieppe in the quote only the Eurotunnel & Calais also the D926 is in the south of France.
We have been through Dieppe 4 times this year, last time on the 22nd October no signs of any problems.

Why should the UK taxpayer pay to build aires when it has been demonstrated time after time that the insufficient demand for them would result in the majority subsidising a small minority?

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Where has it been demonstrated time after time that the insufficient demand, as far as I'm aware there has only been the odd Aire here and there. It will never work unless there is a full network of Aires across the country so we can travel round the UK and never have a problem finding a night stop.
In the meantime like many others I'll spend my money in France & other European countries where I'm welcome.

Lenny

Must stop replying to these posts & do some work I need the dosh so I can afford to use the van.

Where has it been demonstrated time after time that the insufficient demand, as far as I'm aware there has only been the odd Aire here and there. It will never work unless there is a full network of Aires across the country so we can travel round the UK and never have a problem finding a night stop.
In the meantime like many others I'll spend my money in France & other European countries where I'm welcome.

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Every time the subject is raised all but a very few people refuse to do anything concrete to try to identify places where aires would be viable and then approach the land owners to create them. That demonstrates the insufficient demand.

As regards a "full network of aires" how many does that involve? 100? 500? More?
Even the facility at Guisborough cost £1,000 and that was because nearly everything was in place. Remember that @John & Joan has shown that aires can easily cost in the region of £50K each to create.
If it is one aire in each district/unitary council area that is more than 400 so if the average cost were to be as little as £5k that would be in excess of 2 million pounds.
There are less than 200,000 motorhomes in use in the UK and of those nowhere near everyone would want to use an aire. Value for money? Hardly.

50k !..... Must be a public sector one that
True, demand for them is a valid point..... bit it does make travel somewhat more difficult without proper stops.... and to boot, misuse by 'certain people' would be another valid concern.
We have just added a stop at the airfield, just for 2 vans, water, EHU, disposal and total cost was less than €1000, admittedly done with free labour and equipment already there.

50k !..... Must be a public sector one that
True, demand for them is a valid point..... bit it does make travel somewhat more difficult without proper stops.... and to boot, misuse by 'certain people' would be another valid concern.
We have just added a stop at the airfield, just for 2 vans, water, EHU, disposal and total cost was less than €1000, admittedly done with free labour and equipment already there.

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It was one of the Irish council aires. At the time of the post it was shown to be not excessive. That comment "must be a public sector one" begs the point, though (as highlighted previously) - if the private sector could do it for so much less then why are companies and individuals not falling over themselves to do it?

Great that you have added the airport stop but I wonder what the cost would actually have been had free labour not been available? Certainly the involvement of enthusiasts might be a way to help aires in the UK but then we come up against the same old problem, all but a very few people refuse to do anything.

In scheme of government spending 2 million is very little and it would help with tourism. There may not be many Motorhomes in the UK but on mainland Europe they far outnumber caravans. Every time we talk with French & German Motorhome owners on Aires they all say the same thing, we would love to visit the UK, but there is nowhere to stop & the ones that have been say they wouldn't go again for the same reason and they also found it difficult visiting towns due to height barriers. Foreigners see the UK as a no go area for Motorhomes and a lot of us Brits agree.

Lenny

Must stop replying to these posts & do some work I need the dosh so I can afford to use the van.