Sunday, November 04, 2007

Sunday 11/04 (Very) Quickie: Who's No. 2?

The question of the day in college football: Who's No. 2?

With Boston College losing, the door is open for a new contender to reach the BCS Top Two. The presumption is that Ohio State will be No. 1 (although many -- including me -- don't think they should be there). So who will it be... and who SHOULD it be?

Oregon? LSU? Kansas? Oklahoma? West Virginia?

The list is narrowing, and every one of those six contenders has a red-letter game against a very tough opponent -- including Ohio State, which should make no presumptions about a spot in the BCS until they beat a Michigan team that is seemingly on a mission.

For the record, my top two this week on my BlogPoll ballot will be LSU and Oregon, in that order, with Ohio State at No. 3 and Kansas at No. 4. Like most of the nation, I didn't watch the Buckeyes play, but I did watch both LSU and Oregon and both are better than the Buckeyes.

48 comments:

sigh, sniffle sniffle. why? why? why? Why do we have to choke games away like this? this freakin losers mentality is retarded! why are you hitting a guy out of bounds who is almost sitting down on the bench?

Wow LSU better than Ohio St. I have not been impressed this year with LSU. They may have the most talent in the country but Les Miles is not a good coach and they be one of the most undisciplined teams in the country. How many penalties did they have last night? I know you hate OSU but when are you going to give them some credit for being undefeated? The top 2 teams right now are tOSU and Oregon. Even though Oregon and LSU both have bad losses to Cal and Kentucky.

As a Nebraska alum this season has gone from making me angry to just shaking my head at how sad they are. 76 points to freakin Kansas. Callahan is setting all the wrong records and if they fire him today it won't be soon enough.

Dan, stop basing you ballot on simple hatred. You say Ohio St. hasn't beaten anyone good and therefore aren't that good, yet you don't even watch their game. Isn't that what's wrong with media voters? Preconceived biases? In your case your love for the SEC blinds you to the fact that LSU is a very poorly coached team.

I wasn't very impressed with LSU last night. They very easily could have 3 losses right now.

We might also be heading towards a situation where a BCS conference has an undefeated team that gets left out of the BCS title game. Should Kansas win out by beating OU in the Big XII title game, they'll have significant wins over OU and Missouri. However I don't see them jumping either LSU or Oregon if they win out. This could be the best thing to happen to the BCS.

LSU squeaks by again. OSU blows out another pretty decent team in Wisco. Alabama is no monster and they put up 30+ points on LSU's "shut-down" defense. I hate OSU with a passion, but they are comfortably beating everybody in their path. While LSU might have more talent, OSU, with Sweater-Vest (a.k.a Tressel) are the best-coached and most disciplined team in the country. The poll should read, OSU, Oregon, LSU.

Also, I am not sure why Oklahoma is getting so much love. They lost to a terrible Colorado team, and have had a few other uninspiring efforts along the way.

Go Blue (they will need all the help they can get the rest of the way)

p.s. Looking at the Big 10 standings, it is now a lock (even if Michigan loses to Wisco) that the Big Game in Ann Arbor will be for the Big 10 title and a trip to the Rose Bowl.

Dan you are entitled to your opinion of course, but I just want to know who these "many others" are that agree with you that Ohio State isn't number 1??? It's not last year, and whatever happened at the end of last year shouldn't be factored into what is happening this year, the fact simply is Ohio State is taking care of its business week in and week out, and LSU for one week, did not. Speaking as a fan of an SEC team(certainly not UF for the record) OSU belongs at no.1 until they lose.

And for the record, I am not saying that LSU could not and would not beat OSU, all I am saying is that right now, I do not think Dan is justified in saying that LSU deserves the top spot over OSU. I think a game betwen LSU's talent and OSU's grit and coaching would be unreal. Oregon is damn good too. So is Kansas.

I can actually forgive Dan for not seeing OSU, at least yesterday. The Big 10 is hurting themselves with the Big 10 network. Yesterday would have been a good game to show OSU against a ranked team, but no it put on a network not available to a large portion of the country. I've only seen OSU once this year (in KC area- Big 12 area) once and that was the game against Penn State I believe.

This is the same thing that has happened to Oregon this year. I can only remember 2 of their games being on, and ESPN had to negotiate with the Pac 10 to get the rights to last night's game. I wouldn't have seen it otherwise because of the Missouri-Colorado game. Without the exposure it will be more difficult to determine whether these teams are for real or not.

Don't forget, when you rip on OSU for this year over last year's BCS title game, that their second best player got hurt on the 1st play of the game.

Supposedly, Tressel had a game plan when Ginn was going to take the snap in the first 5-10 plays of the game, and had all kinds of tricks planned for that fast FLA front 7. He went down and the game plan was bust; they had to run the base offense, seemed generally flustered and confused, which was at least partially from Ginn going down.

While LSU is barely winning, they're playing against a tough as Chuck Norris SEC. They beat Tim Tebow, AKA Superman after all, and the best 3 lost team in the nation. Ohio State just blows people out in the weak as Arod in the playoffs Big Ten (plus 1). They're nowhere nearly as battle tested as LSU so they must be worse.

I really don't think any team is really good enough to make a legit claim at #1. Then again I haven't seen Kansas or OSU play. I liked Dan's idea of a 6 week playoff he proposed on Deadspin the other day. I just think that this year is so screwy with how everyone seems to be so mediocre that it will make for an interesting bowl season. Still imagine if we had the old bowl system with conference tie-ins and such. there would be no way any team could make a legit claim at being the best. However an OSU Oregon Rose bowl would probably be the de facto natl championship game in such a scenario.

Either you have the opinion that the entire season is a "playoff" and have to vote OSU 1st, OR you should be supporting the concept of a true 16-team playoff, and say "We'll see who is better after they play each other." Saying one team is "better" than the other without actually having them play each other is the STUPIDEST thing in the world.

I hate the BC$, I hate their stupid poll, I hate the politics involved in the media and coaches polls. I hate the fact that Division IA football is the only sport in the whole freaking world where you can go undefeated in the pre-season and the post-season and not win a championship.

I hate the posturing and speculation. Let's just put the 11 conference champions with 5 at-large teams into a 16-team playoff. The playoffs go for 4 weeks starting the saturday before Christmas (when bowls are already starting) and go through mid January.

Dan, I used to take your OSU and Big Ten bashing with a grain of salt. You're entitled to your opinion and if you want to slurp the SEC that's fine. But your latest post just show's how much of a moron you are.

1) LSU, 2) Oregon, 3) OSU????Are you F$*#ing kidding me?!?!?!?

I'm sure if Florida was undefeated you would NEVER, EVER rank a 1-loss team ahead of them.

You seem to think that going undefeated in college football is easy, but only if it's OSU. Well, if it's so easy to go undefeated, then how come no one in your precious SEC is undefeated??

You say that Ohio St. hasn't beat anyone good yet. But then they go on the road and beat a ranked Penn St. team. Then they convincingly beat a ranked Wisconsin team and they continue to get worse in your mind? Where's the logic in that?

Just because Florida has lost 3 games doesn't mean you need to keep acting like a bitch. Maybe you should take your dick out of Tebow's ass long enough to actually watch OSU play.

If they finish the season 12-0, they are the #1 team. No questions asked!! Maybe for your next birthday you should ask for a brain...

It's amazing to me that you people whine and cry every week when Dan does his usual Ohio State bashing. He's not gonna change his mind and he has no influence on that fact that Ohio State is, in all the polls, the number 1 team in the country so why get riled up?

Dan, I'm dying to see the SEC destroy the Big 10 again, and I love Oregon (my favorite team to watch this year, btw) but I think right now I actually have to put Ohio State #1 and Kansas #2. Saying they've "played nobody" is dis-ingenuous - Hawaii has played nobody. I'd put Oregon over LSU, West Virginia at #5, Oklahoma #6. And, hey, I've watched at least one game from all those teams!

Side bar: Where is the love for the Big 12, a conference featuring a grand total of one team I can even sort of stand (Texas Tech)? They have 4 teams with a legit claim to top-10 status, and a guy having one of the best freshman seasons of all time (TT's Michael Crabtree) but no Heisman talk and completely left out of the "best conference" argument. I know Nebraska is horrible but I'm starting to think Jamaal Charles is the best, most "clutch" (shudder. I hate that word more than anything since the first time I heard "edgy") player in the country.

Hey man, I read your blog pretty frequently and enjoy your content. I guess, like everyone else, don't understand what scraping by an average Alabama team does to impress you....after giving up 34 pts no less.

You may say that's a "solid" team they played on the road in the later half of the season when more is on the line. I would say, rewind the tape one week ago to Happy Valley and find Ohio State winning 37-17 against another "solid" team on the road in front of 107,000.

Maybe I'm alone on this...but I don't think Alabama is superior to Penn state at this point.

Man you gotta get off your anti-Ohio St. kick. Those guys are kicking asses and taking names. LSU has the talent to beat 5-6 teams in the NFL, but that have a average coach in Les Miles. There was no reason for them to struggle aganist Alabama, but the Tide had a better coach.

Its not Ohio St's fault that the SEC is so "tough" that LSU will have no team on their schedule (besides VA Tech) that hasn't lost more 3 games. If the teams in the hunt win out (Kansas and OU play in the title game) there's no way in hell LSU should even be #3 in the BCS.

Well, for weeks now, Dan has spewed forth his babble about how the Pats are by far the best team in the NFL. While there is no doubt about that, they only beat the colts by 4, so how many people wanna take the bet that Dan won't eat any humble pie by saying that he was wrong about them winning by 30, are that there is such a HUGE difference between them and all other teams?Let's face it, the Colts and the Pats are THE two premiere teams in the NFL, and difference isn't that great...particularly considering the Colts were without 3 starters...

Woo! That game was intense. Addai freaking KILLED the Pats and Colts defense really had Brady out of rhythm. Glad to see the Pats gut that one out even though they struggled for a lot of the game. Great win, great game. See you in the playoffs, Indy!,

I was hoping somebody would notice that too travis; they did an absurdly poor job in that game. i still don't know if they were incompetent or trying to pile on the patriots; some of those interference calls were head scratching to say the least

honestly i dont even care about shanoff and his bullshit anymore. his hypocracy continues to grow by the day. fuck him and fuck all the osu haters. LSU hasnt beaten anyone good, oregon is a solid 2. fuck shanoff and his bullshit comments. go get in a all SEC gangbang and make sure tebow saves the money shot right for your face

pv845 -I'm pretty bad at counting, but I've tried and tried and I only get 3. Is Ohio State, Oregon, or LSU the 4th Big XII team?

Furthermore, I hate the Big XII so much because super-shitty teams make somewhat-shitty teams look great. Fuck Nebraska in 1997 (and the lousy 11 teams that made them look good), and fuck Nebraska now, for bending over and making Kansas look like a Steve Spurrier Florida team.

Furtherfurthermore, Dan is just a joker at this point. Settle down everyone - there's no way in the damn universe that anyone could seriously say "I didn't watch the Buckeyes play, but I did watch both LSU and Oregon and both are better than the Buckeyes," and actually mean it, especially given the lucksack ways LSU needs to win, even in the pathetic SEC.

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