“Goop seems to have forgotten that it is legally bound by a court order to refrain from engaging in deceptive marketing or, worse, is knowingly violating the order ... It is outrageous that Goop continues to exploit health issues in order to make money.”

Con man don't stop until you force them to. Apparently a court order is insufficient. A much harsher remedy is called for.

What is always annoying about these settlements is the the company almost always admits no wrongdoing but settles for a payout. Pretty good scam, if you can do it.

Imaging if Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer admitted no wrongdoing, but still were sentenced.

This sort of thing allows corporations to delude consumers and themselves that they did nothing wrong, and it was just pesky regulators and conned consumers doing a shakedown on the poor, innocent corporation.

I mean, the moneyed ones always want to say that "corporations are people too". So let's treat them like people and apply the laws of man to them. We'd need a whole fleet of tradesmen to build enough electric chairs and gallows to handle the inflow on death row.

What is always annoying about these settlements is the the company almost always admits no wrongdoing but settles for a payout. Pretty good scam, if you can do it.

Imaging if Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer admitted no wrongdoing, but still were sentenced.

This sort of thing allows corporations to delude consumers and themselves that they did nothing wrong, and it was just pesky regulators and conned consumers doing a shakedown on the poor, innocent corporation.

Technically, they could have. It's called pleading "no contest". The main difference is that, I believe, a criminal guilty plea can be referenced in a civil proceeding, and a "no contest" plea cannot be.

Modern snake oil pushers hide behind the corporate veil that protects them from personal liability (and in some cases, even the most basic identification). There needs to be an exception carved out for medical and financial management leeches, and outright harmful "this is an alternative to vaccination!" activity; the Elizabeth Holmes types of the world need to be pauperized and jailed.

But given how much money there is in this sort of activity, and how much can therefore be spent on buying lawyers, senators, judges and widespread misinformation campaigns, I ain't holding my breath.

I kind of read those things an get the feeling that the authors are just saying something to the effect of,

"Hey, I'm an amoral, paid shill for a fraudulent product touting it so that I can live in luxury while people are injured or die because they buy into the bullshit I say works!"

Enablers are mandatory for any scam. If you don't have people who are knowingly in on the scam, you can't get the scam off the ground. Goop operates like a cult, with cult-like indoctrination (much like homeopathy) into its mindset. Once you get "true believers", then it takes off. Until then, it's only corporate masturbation.

This was almost certainly an enabler's submission. The problem when you have a big name behind your scam is that it's easier to get a bigger bullhorn for the bullshit.

What is always annoying about these settlements is the the company almost always admits no wrongdoing but settles for a payout. Pretty good scam, if you can do it.

Imaging if Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer admitted no wrongdoing, but still were sentenced.

This sort of thing allows corporations to delude consumers and themselves that they did nothing wrong, and it was just pesky regulators and conned consumers doing a shakedown on the poor, innocent corporation.

Technically, they could have. It's called pleading "no contest". The main difference is that, I believe, a criminal guilty plea can be referenced in a civil proceeding, and a "no contest" plea cannot be.

I guess the reason it annoys me so much is that corporations continually refuse to accept responsibilities for their actions, even when they often know they were breaking the law at the time. If the MAGA-wearing crowd really wants to Make America Great Again, how about starting with honesty and integrity? If you break the law, take responsibility for it, and make sure you don't do it again.

Of course, when your standard bearer is a pathological liar, it's kinda hard to claim you are all in favor of honesty and integrity.

I actually, truly believe that Gwyneth believes she's doing a great service for humanity.

It's somewhat akin to spreading the word about the danger of vaccinations.

She undoubtedly resents the intrusion of the authorities on her good works. After all, her mission is to learn about all the latest amazing new health crazes that come to Hollywood and then make them available to the rest of the world.

Who wouldn't benefit from a weekly colonic cleanse? If only the obviously corrupt establishment wouldn't get in her way!

What is always annoying about these settlements is the the company almost always admits no wrongdoing but settles for a payout. Pretty good scam, if you can do it.

Imaging if Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer admitted no wrongdoing, but still were sentenced.

This sort of thing allows corporations to delude consumers and themselves that they did nothing wrong, and it was just pesky regulators and conned consumers doing a shakedown on the poor, innocent corporation.

IANAL (and I don't agree with it), but I think this is a balance of "cost to pursue" against "legally admitting guilt". IOW, Goop has enough cash and energy to drag out a case for years, so their opposition take the settlement. However, because no jury nor judge issued a true ruling, there is no legal precedent to cite for future claims.

Unless you can force Goop to pre-fund the prosecution/complaints against them, I think most people/groups are just going to take their half-victory and move on. It sucks =/

“Goop seems to have forgotten that it is legally bound by a court order to refrain from engaging in deceptive marketing or, worse, is knowingly violating the order ... It is outrageous that Goop continues to exploit health issues in order to make money.”

Con man don't stop until you force them to. Apparently a court order is insufficient. A much harsher remedy is called for.

I actually, truly believe that Gwyneth believes she's doing a great service for humanity.

It's somewhat akin to spreading the word about the danger of vaccinations.

She undoubtedly resents the intrusion of the authorities on her good works. After all, her mission is to learn about all the latest amazing new health crazes that come to Hollywood and then make them available to the rest of the world.

Who wouldn't benefit from a weekly colonic cleanse? If only the obviously corrupt establishment wouldn't get in her way!

... in which case she is diseased mentally and needs to be committed to the nearest funny farm.

I actually, truly believe that Gwyneth believes she's doing a great service for humanity.

It's somewhat akin to spreading the word about the danger of vaccinations.

She undoubtedly resents the intrusion of the authorities on her good works. After all, her mission is to learn about all the latest amazing new health crazes that come to Hollywood and then make them available to the rest of the world.

Who wouldn't benefit from a weekly colonic cleanse? If only the obviously corrupt establishment wouldn't get in her way!

GOOP products aren't priced for the rest of the world. They're priced for the wealthy elite. If that's what she believes, she's not only a moron, she's an incompetent one.

“Goop seems to have forgotten that it is legally bound by a court order to refrain from engaging in deceptive marketing or, worse, is knowingly violating the order ... It is outrageous that Goop continues to exploit health issues in order to make money.”

Con man don't stop until you force them to. Apparently a court order is insufficient. A much harsher remedy is called for.

Indeed. Much like the Jade Moon Vagina-Eggs, shove Gwyneth Paltrow where the sun don't shine - a jail cell.

In fact, the FDA noted that it “has received a report that one patient taking high levels of biotin died following falsely low troponin test results [a biomarker for heart attacks] when a troponin test known to have biotin interference was used.”

So, manslaughter at worst?

Gwenyth Paltrow is a coconspirator to involuntary manslaughter at minimum. Makes her appearance as Rescue in the marvel movies particularly ironic.

What is always annoying about these settlements is the the company almost always admits no wrongdoing but settles for a payout. Pretty good scam, if you can do it.

Imaging if Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer admitted no wrongdoing, but still were sentenced.

This sort of thing allows corporations to delude consumers and themselves that they did nothing wrong, and it was just pesky regulators and conned consumers doing a shakedown on the poor, innocent corporation.

I really wouldn't care if Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer admit anything, as long as they ended up in jail for the rest of their lives. The problem with the corporate example isn't really so much that they avoid admitting wrongdoing (as they would avoid admitting that in a full trial situation, also), it's that there is little-to-no actual punishment. Levy "real" fines and/or put executives in jail for their personal part in the fraud, and it would take a big dent out this kind of fraud. ("Dent" because, let's face it, every other type of crime still occurs, even when we put people in jail. We just hope/assume such crimes are happening a lot less when punishments are seen to be meted out.)

I actually, truly believe that Gwyneth believes she's doing a great service for humanity.

It's somewhat akin to spreading the word about the danger of vaccinations.

She undoubtedly resents the intrusion of the authorities on her good works. After all, her mission is to learn about all the latest amazing new health crazes that come to Hollywood and then make them available to the rest of the world.

Who wouldn't benefit from a weekly colonic cleanse? If only the obviously corrupt establishment wouldn't get in her way!

Bear in mind that Paltrow is an actor. She has years of training and experience in the business of persuading you of things that aren’t true. I’m guessing, though, that you’re not entirely serious.

There's also this over on the Guardian: "Gwyneth Paltrow’s range of wellness products has been criticised by the head of NHS England who warns that one of the recommended procedures poses a considerable health risk."

As sad as it is, I get the vibe that she really does believe in this crap. I wouldn't be surprised if she does use them. What you have is a spoiled movie star with the science education of a county dog catcher trying to push her wishful thinking on everybody. This simplified universe she lives in, where all kinds of terrible health problems can be cured with folk medicine (1%) and unicorn farts (the other 99%), is probably a lot happier place than reality.