true, i liked pride and all, but there are some people that were just too diehard and bad mouthed anything that the ufc did .. times have changed now though ... even still though, with pride dead, they are hanging on to anything they can, although i think mir spanking nog may have put the final nail in the coffin for them ...

as long as Fedor keeps crushing UFC champs (and he will), and Dana continues to duck Fedor's offer to have 1 fight, winner take all...Pride will live forever.

and let's not forget all the UFC guys going to Pride and losing....minus the ones Fedor crushed. and it's not like Nog didn't win the UFC title. did Liddell win any Pride title or did any other UFC guy win a belt at their respective weights?