>>115122025Bandai brought LL during [email protected]' downtime. Now they bring [email protected] back while LL takes a break. This stuff is all planned to maximize profits from people like you. They cover all their bases with both series.

They got bored of [email protected] How many times have you seen the nips throw away something they were obsessed with for something newer and shinier? It's happened countless times.

Keep in mind [email protected] has been around since 2005. That was a pretty good run. It's possible the franchise will revive with Cinderella or a new game but it's not a sure thing. The movie really didn't help anyone.

There's this kid I know who was completely fucking obsessed with [email protected], all he did was link videos and fan art every day for years. He switched to LL once it got an anime and never says a word about [email protected]

LL is just the latest spark. I'd be surprised if it lasted as long as [email protected], but even if it does it'll fade away just like every other property. That kid doesn't even talk about LL much anymore. He's already moving on. LL really has nothing outside an anime and a few songs.

I don't see LL really staying long. It doesn't have anything for people to cling on to like [email protected] did with its games.

I think if [email protected] would've kept releasing game content rather than reselling the same shit it would've stayed longer. I also think Cinderella girls ultimate split the franchise up more than it added new fans.

We'll see what happens though with the new Cinderlla anime. Let's see how willing [email protected] "fans" are to throw away their girls for something newer and shiner.

>>115128550Kotori introduces Honoka as her Girlfriend to the Male MCMC begins a plan to break them up and mess with all the relationship.Tries to convince Honoka that Kotori is cheating on her with Umi. How very Shakespearean of himHonoka confronts Umi. To his surprise, Honoka asks Umi if she wants to join her and Kotori for a threesome.Male MC ragequits

>>115124071[email protected] has SideM.Last season, Shounen Hollywood aired which was based off a novel series about Idols. It's getting a second season.The 3rd Idol Winter will see Cinderella Girls, New Gen Aikatsu and 4th Gen Pretty Rhythm hopefully engaging in mortal combat with UtaPri.

>>115130290I don't know about you but Idolmaster and Love Live just wouldn't be the same without their leaders to1. Ganbare hard with everyone else to lead them to the top2. Master the Yuri Harem3. Keep Blue from getting lonely.

>>115130296Idols are all about popularity contests. It's only natural that the fans of them would be extremely obnoxious. This is geared towards [email protected] fans now but will eventually happen to LL when the next big thing rolls around.

I like both series, just in different ways. [email protected] feels like it has a ton more depth to it, mostly because if you actually play the fucking games you get to a point where you know the girls personally.

Like, you literally need to know them well to get perfect communication scores with them, which are basically essential to survive the games in hard modes. You spend dozens/hundreds of hours with your girl(s); you are their guide and they are your plaything; you can tease them if you feel like it (i.e can afford to mess around) etc. For example I feel like I know Chihaya almost like a friend, whereas I know any of the Love Lives like I know other anime chars - just someone to dote over. Which is nice in its own way, but not the same feeling.

So basically what I'm saying is [email protected] is truly about the games. That is its main vehicle and probably will remain so. Love Live's main vehicle is the anime, so, naturally it does very well in this arena, however in overall revenue/sales etc I don't know if LL has truly overtaken [email protected] It's the hot new thing is what it is, while [email protected] is just kind of there and hasn't changed a whole lot in 10 years. The upcoming ps4 game will be the true revitalization of [email protected], way beyond the scope any anime for the franchise could accomplish, because it looks like they are starting to finally back off of 765 pro in favor of developing other teams. Which honestly is fine by me; the franchise needs fresh air.

They tried to put a story about girls trying hard to be idols with a galactic war story resulting in a lot of mood whiplash.

Which isn't to say it couldn't work, it just needed to be better written. There are a lot of real-life stories of teens continuing to practice their 'degenerate art' under the nose of a totalitarian regime.

>>115131707Actually the main vehicle for Love Live are the School Idol Diairies. The anime was just a plus. You learn a lot more about them in their diaries than you do in the anime, ever.

Like Umi, Eli, Maki, and Hanayo were completely neglected in the anime. COMPLETELY neglected. I know what you'll say "But Eli was in the first half of the first season" as an antagoinst. We learned nothing about her through that bitchy attitude except that she was actually a softy. That's it.l

LL is awesome and all, but [email protected] still has the games. Though getting to know the same characters once again won't cut it for the next game. LL can continue releasing music videos until people lose interest or something.

>>115132399I guess you can mark it down to opinions. There are people that like the music and others that like supporting their franchises. I like LL songs even though [email protected] sounds cleaner/more professional.

>>115132348Miki is great in Relations and Heart of Marionette, or any serious type songs. So's Yukiho. Makoto and the twins are subjective because of the style of their songs. I'd agree with Haruka and Ritsuko though.

It also really depends on what particular song you're listening to; some girls do very very well in some and not so good in others. Even mamiami chipmunk voices sound quite good in a few instances. Like LL, there is a large library of [email protected] songs outside the games (or later available as DLC), which have some of the best songs bar none, so you may not have ever heard some of the [email protected] girls at their best unless you went through these. For example the 8-bit [email protected] album alone sounds better than almost anything I have ever heard from LL.

>>115132748Pile can' t even sing live without cracking. She's done it in literally every song she's performed in.

And Yurika can sing, they changed her voice right before Wonderful Rush. Like seriously listen to her old solos. Mermaid Festa Vol.1 Solo, go listen to hers. It's fucking great. I don't know why the fuck they decided to change how they wanted her to sound for Hanayo, it's really upsetting.

>>115132902Why is the production value on all the LL songs so low? Like, it sounds like they set up a rig in a garage and just took that recording. They all sound awful. Both the composition and in quality.

>>115133175I think it's been on every Love Live song I've heard. To be completely honest, I haven't downloaded the CDs so it might be at slight fault of streaming services, but even [email protected] songs sound better.>>115133251First vision, especially early on, were low quality, yeah. I love [email protected], but a whole lot of first vision stuff is hard to listen to before they remastered most of it.

Overall I like the construction/variety of [email protected] songs/vocals much more than LL, which sounds more prepackaged/tinny in most aspects. Mediocre voice in a superior song > good voice in a crap song imo. That is to say most LL voices are in fact mediocre too, which is why I can't even compare the two.

>>115133800Imas is more melody/pops focused, where LL is more like 3DPD idol group (AKB etc) music. There's no comparison for me; [email protected] has superior compositions and much more variation in melodies and range, but if you're into AKB and those idols you're more likely to prefer LL type music, since you can obviously stand it.

>>115134522AKB and those idol groups have their music played basically everywhere you walk in Tokyo. There's no avoiding it; even people who hate the music eventually warm up to it at some point. It's bound to have some sort of effect on peoples' tastes.

>>115135569https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dg-g_LdncY >Watching non-Gachimuchi OPs>>115135948Just spend a few years going through the catalog because it's impossible to give specific songs that are really universally liked. Grab the anime and movie or games if you want.

>>115135948I suppose you could break down the categories by>in-game default>in-game DLC>non-main-game (like 876 pro songs; I like everything by eri mizutani since it's KanaHana)>CD specials/albums etc

There's at least a couple hundred songs I'd estimate; some I like and some not so much. It's also subjective; some people like songs like Aoi Toori but I don't, and I like that stupid breakfast song (ohayou asa gohan) and I bet most don't. I mean Ohayou!! is not at all my favorite at all, but just an example because I have fond memories making Chihaya sing it (I guarantee she hates it so much, but she can't refuse what you assign).

>>115136341The anime isn't that great. To be honest, I got into [email protected] from watching niconico videos long before the anime came out. The music is probably the best thing that the series has to offer.

And as a former [email protected], I think their music strategy is just to throw piles of shit at a wall to see what sticks. 99% of their songs are garbage and half of 765 should be pruned. LL is far more consistent and only has 1 shit member (fatayo)

>>115136700I've always found it funny that she is supposed to be the most talented but doesn't actually sound particularly great. I think Chiaki Takahashi is probably the prettiest voice, although she's stuck on a near-background tier idol so people don't pay much attention.

At least the games get some other things right though, like Mami/Ami and Makoto are not supposed to be very talented singers.

Side note: Chihaya has a 55cm waist. Touch your middle fingers and thumb together, and then move them away from each other about 2 inches. That's Chihaya's waist. Coincidentally, that's also Miki's waist size.

>>115136608She's a total drag in the anime, but I liked her in it still. She's better outside of it. People who hate her singing are mostly people who just don't prefer it but constantly feel the need to make up excuses for not liking her. She's a good singer, but they play it up a lot and it can get really annoying.

>>115137043Yeah, that sounds right.I guess I feel that way since I couldn't give a shit about idol talent. I like Yayoi because she's a nice friendly person. I hate Miki because she's selfish and vain.

>>115128011>If you talk to fans of the idol genre who liked IM they switched to LL. I dunno, bro. I'll admit I'm not a LL fan, so I don't particularly go out looking for the the threads, but from what I've seen from my years of lurking 2chan and yaraon, the fans of LL and the fans of iMAS seem to mostly be different people. It could be that most of the fans of iMAS today are new, but hey, how am I to know. I do see a lot of complaining about LL's use of CGi, though.

>If you look at fanart, it's shifted to LL. I don't know about that. Both of the series have never really been that popular in terms of fanart, but I don't think the steam has been shifted to one side terribly.

>Will IM come back? Maybe.Why are you trying to come off as an expert on this, while you sit in your armchair?

>Of course IM has made more money in total. It's been around since 2005.CG alone (iMAS's new cash cow) outsells LL. That's what I meant.

And sorry for the late reply. But what can I say? It's Saturday night. I was sleeping.

The cast is a lot more diverse in personality, and have their own stories and such. To me all of the Love Live girls are just boring and seem like all the same "hard working high school idol" persona. I didn't really care about any except 3.

Want to know why the DLC is so expensive? Because people will buy them anyways. If [email protected] was really declining at all, the products should be getting cheaper. But they're only getting even higher, nickel and diming you especially with this EX episode shit.

>>115136737This is so retarded, I can't believe there are people who take these discussions like it's it's some political debate and actually post like this. Kill yourself you fucking autist.

>>115134144Young riho sing so good, it really fits on her image. Pile also good, probably if she stay on KR probably she's one of the popular KR pop-idols (include some surgery, it's normal on KR though)

I like both series, they both upside and down like LL has no power voice like on [email protected] has chihaya and azusa(ex. tonari ni, yakusoku). but [email protected] has no genki like honoka and rin (mermaid festa vol 2.) and chipmunks voice like kotori and hanayo surprisingly fit each other(ex. kohaku biyori desu!)

In my opinion, [email protected] anime do the drama(chihaya) better than LL(kotori and honkers drama)!

This looks like the same LL pictures I see every thread mixed with half serious idol show trolling comparisons.The same old stupid LL [email protected] rivality that doesn't even exist outside some fans minds all over again.

I like Idolmaster characters and stories way better but in my opinion Love Live just has far catchier and fun music. [email protected] music feels like nerd anime music, Love Live has music that wouldn't be out of place for AKB or any real idol group.

>>115162616Comparing the two franchises in itself seems seems rather pointless anyways, they're way too different in all aspects except for both having something to do with idols.>Shitty cg!>[email protected] girls are all bland>LL has no good vocalist!>[email protected] has no goods songsSometimes I wonder how people enjoy spouting this nonsense without even knowing anything they talk about.Holding hands would be much more fun

[email protected] characters have more depth and development but they feel like anime characters. They don't act like real idols at all.Love Live characters all feel like "real idols"; not as in realistic but in Japan all idols put up fake cute girls personas as part of the experience; the LL girls act exactly the way in which you see the AKB or whatever girls act in front of the camera. So it's like a real idol group in perfect 2D.