AbbeySomeone:Jamdug!: It's tough to test for something you don't even know exists.

Word.It sure as hell wasn't weed that made him behave that way. Do they even have an accurate test for bath salts?

No they don't - the street chemists change the psychoactive ingredients so often that authorities don't even know what to look for. By the time there's a test for one, it's already on a third or fourth variation.

Jamdug!:No they don't - the street chemists change the psychoactive ingredients so often that authorities don't even know what to look for. By the time there's a test for one, it's already on a third or fourth variation.

There could be other factors too. Like using discount kitchenware made in China that's full of lead to cook up their poison.

So our cannibal friend went to his local dealer for some weed and ended up with some bunk ass ragweed that had been treated with bath salts and food coloring. I'm sure it was named purple kushberry or some other such nonsense.

I don't believe the industry is powerful enough to hold that much influence. It's more likely they covered it up because people resorting to smoking legal 'bath salts' is the best argument for legalization of harmless old mary jane in a long time.

There are a lot of people with an interest in keeping marijuana illegal. You have various law enforcement agencies, private prisons and tactical supply companies who have a vested interest in locking users and dealers up. You also have various pharmaceutical companies who see marijuana as a competitor to their own drugs.

These groups want to continue the stigma that marijuana is a dangerous substance that can cause reefer madness as opposed to it being a recreational drug that is in many ways safer than alcohol. Decriminalization and even legalization would be bad business for them. So people do care right now... because there is an active political movement to get it reclassified.

Why does he even have to be on anything? Couldn't he just have been nuts? In every mental ward there are a few five point rooms where they just have to chain somone down for a few hours because no drug is going to bring them back.

I've said it before and I'll say it again- weed may make you hungry enough to eat a guy, but it will completely rob you of any motivation to track, hunt, kill, and dress your own "dangerous game," and inherently instills far too much empathy in the user to violate natural order in such a way.

Synthetic amphetamines, conversely, rob you of your appetite but make the hunting and killing part seem like a really good idea.

Guy smoked some pot that was laced with "a little somethin' extra" and it made him batshiat nutso. Matches the story from people who knew him that he wasn't much of a druggy. And it was the middle of the damn day -- dude was just cruising around town.

If pot was legal, he could have bought a joint at the corner store from a regulated source, and been totally fine. But we've got private prison operators and pharmaceutical companies that need the money, so...

There are large possibilities of variation in these substances, but they have commonalities that can be tested for. Case of traditional hallucinogens, the tryptamine arm would be the target of choice. Analysts are not completely in the dark, they get a characteristic spike for typical bonds.

I arrested a female for DUI and she was really jittery, constantly moving, constantly talking, and generally behaving strangely. In her car, I found a bag of some "potpourri," aka synthetic marijuana known as spice. I made the arrest and she blew as being over the limit and she told me she had smoked some of the stuff. I submitted the spice package for lab testing.

The Miami Dade county medical examiner's lab results came back as negative for any drugs; just like Mr. Eugene's blood reports.

Jamdug!:By the time there's a test for one, it's already on a third or fourth variation.

If only there were some natural, organic drugs that could be taxed, regulated and legalized, maybe people wouldn't go mixing drano, cow manure and jujubees, boiling the mixture in rubbing alcohol and then filtering it through a syphilitic hookers wet panties before shooting it in their eyeballs.