Comments on: AWU actually clawed back dubious Bruce Wilson cashhttp://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/20/awu-actually-clawed-back-dubious-bruce-wilson-cash/
now with extra sourceTue, 03 Mar 2015 18:05:12 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1By: Andrew Crookhttp://www.crikey.com.au/2012/11/20/awu-actually-clawed-back-dubious-bruce-wilson-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-229320
Andrew CrookFri, 23 Nov 2012 01:57:28 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=332131#comment-229320Gavin, I'm aware of the documents and aren't confusing the funds. Re-read the story.Gavin, I’m aware of the documents and aren’t confusing the funds. Re-read the story.
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Phil VeeThu, 22 Nov 2012 12:16:11 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=332131#comment-229284Gavin @ 8 wrote....
<i>Crucially the property was sold in 1996 with no accounting of the proceeds to the AWU or the authorities. Slater and Gordon and the now PM were aware of the purchase. </i>
How could S&G "account for proceeds" when they did not know some of the money to buy the house came from an AWU fund? The famous cheque was banked in Perth and appeared in S&G's books as a direct deposit. S&G Victoria never saw it and did not know AWU money was involved.Gavin @ 8 wrote….Crucially the property was sold in 1996 with no accounting of the proceeds to the AWU or the authorities. Slater and Gordon and the now PM were aware of the purchase.

How could S&G “account for proceeds” when they did not know some of the money to buy the house came from an AWU fund? The famous cheque was banked in Perth and appeared in S&G’s books as a direct deposit. S&G Victoria never saw it and did not know AWU money was involved.

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PatriotWed, 21 Nov 2012 10:31:03 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=332131#comment-229093Karen,
They have to investigate the allegations against her before they charge her. They're doing that right this minute. They'll speak to Blewitt on Friday.Karen,

They have to investigate the allegations against her before they charge her. They’re doing that right this minute. They’ll speak to Blewitt on Friday.

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KarenWed, 21 Nov 2012 00:43:04 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=332131#comment-228876@Patriot - if JG was involved in a conspiracy to steal money, then she would have have been charged, not to mention lambasted in the Oz. Yet another unsubstantiated claim from you...@Patriot - if JG was involved in a conspiracy to steal money, then she would have have been charged, not to mention lambasted in the Oz. Yet another unsubstantiated claim from you…
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Gavin ClydesdaleTue, 20 Nov 2012 23:09:07 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=332131#comment-228864Dear Mr Crook you need to go Michael Smiths website, ignore the commentary if you will but given your report you may not be aware of all the facts and documents.
http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2012/08/the-awu-scandal-bill-gets-the-money-back-but-what-about-bruce.html
After the money was paid back to the Companies as you have reported, Ludwig went to court to get an order so that it again all went back to the AWU's legitimate accounts. So the union received back the funds that Wilson scammed of the companies for the work that was never performed. (See the following links, payments for stand over tactics or for potentially putting the health of AWU workers at risk by using asbestos contaminated soil, the latter being one of the triggers for Blewitt to come back to Australia make a statement to the police).
http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2012/11/how-wilson-worked-his-job-the-standover-tactics-we-paid-for-industrial-peace.html
http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2012/10/the-asbestos-contamination-scandal-a-reference-point.html
Also don't confuse the AWU Members' Welfare Association No 1 fund with the AWU Workplace Reform Association. The latter was set-up using the now PM's "legal advice" including a supporting letter when the original application was rejected, the former I doubt if Ms Gillard had any knowledge. The use of AWU in the name of the association was crucial allowing Wilson to bank company payments to AWU in the association's account and transfer to his various AWU funds in Victoria. The AWU-WRA(which MS Gillard was aware of) was not discovered by the Union until later (no investigation commenced until 1996) and money from the AWU-WRA was used to purchase the Kerr street property in Blewitt's name (illegal use of funds)using a dubious Power of Attorney drawn up by Slater & Gordon and witnessed by Ms Gillard.
Crucially the property was sold in 1996 with no accounting of the proceeds to the AWU or the authorities. Slater and Gordon and the now PM were aware of the purchase (S&G provided a mortgage in Blewitts' name of which he was unaware) and failed to inform their client the AWU or the relevant authorities.
A legitimate question was asked of the PM in Parliament, which she has failed to answer satisfactorily as unlike her response to Ms Bishops specific question on the AWU-WRA there was no investigation into this until 1996. Shouldn't Crikey be following up this question?
By the way $5000 is one of the favourite withdrawal amounts from Wilson's various slush funds. Coincidence? I wonder how many times Wilson told AWU people that he won at the "Casino" or on the "horses" given that one of the main sources of his funding the AWU-WRA was a secret.
Given that this amount was allegedly given to Ms Gillard by Wilson (via a union official)in July and in mid-August his corrupt activites had come to light within the union and in light of Ms Gillards interview transcript with S&G in September. Other legitimate questions arise that need answers,Crikey needs to ask these questions.
Did the PM receive $5000 from Wilson in July 1995? Did she return this to Wilson on finding out about his nefarious activities in August or early September? What did Ms Gillard do verify the source of the funds if she retained them?
I hope you publish this on you website and Andrew, please ask these questions they go to the core of the character of the most powerful person in Australia.Dear Mr Crook you need to go Michael Smiths website, ignore the commentary if you will but given your report you may not be aware of all the facts and documents.

After the money was paid back to the Companies as you have reported, Ludwig went to court to get an order so that it again all went back to the AWU’s legitimate accounts. So the union received back the funds that Wilson scammed of the companies for the work that was never performed. (See the following links, payments for stand over tactics or for potentially putting the health of AWU workers at risk by using asbestos contaminated soil, the latter being one of the triggers for Blewitt to come back to Australia make a statement to the police).

Also don’t confuse the AWU Members’ Welfare Association No 1 fund with the AWU Workplace Reform Association. The latter was set-up using the now PM’s “legal advice” including a supporting letter when the original application was rejected, the former I doubt if Ms Gillard had any knowledge. The use of AWU in the name of the association was crucial allowing Wilson to bank company payments to AWU in the association’s account and transfer to his various AWU funds in Victoria. The AWU-WRA(which MS Gillard was aware of) was not discovered by the Union until later (no investigation commenced until 1996) and money from the AWU-WRA was used to purchase the Kerr street property in Blewitt’s name (illegal use of funds)using a dubious Power of Attorney drawn up by Slater & Gordon and witnessed by Ms Gillard.

Crucially the property was sold in 1996 with no accounting of the proceeds to the AWU or the authorities. Slater and Gordon and the now PM were aware of the purchase (S&G provided a mortgage in Blewitts’ name of which he was unaware) and failed to inform their client the AWU or the relevant authorities.

A legitimate question was asked of the PM in Parliament, which she has failed to answer satisfactorily as unlike her response to Ms Bishops specific question on the AWU-WRA there was no investigation into this until 1996. Shouldn’t Crikey be following up this question?

By the way $5000 is one of the favourite withdrawal amounts from Wilson’s various slush funds. Coincidence? I wonder how many times Wilson told AWU people that he won at the “Casino” or on the “horses” given that one of the main sources of his funding the AWU-WRA was a secret.

Given that this amount was allegedly given to Ms Gillard by Wilson (via a union official)in July and in mid-August his corrupt activites had come to light within the union and in light of Ms Gillards interview transcript with S&G in September. Other legitimate questions arise that need answers,Crikey needs to ask these questions.

Did the PM receive $5000 from Wilson in July 1995? Did she return this to Wilson on finding out about his nefarious activities in August or early September? What did Ms Gillard do verify the source of the funds if she retained them?

I hope you publish this on you website and Andrew, please ask these questions they go to the core of the character of the most powerful person in Australia.

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PatriotTue, 20 Nov 2012 14:34:07 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=332131#comment-228849Here's some more historical context for you. Gillard was still a member of the Socialist Forum while she was helping her union boss boyfriend steal from a fatal accident and death fund. She travelled to Boulder to convince workers to hand over their money to him.Here’s some more historical context for you. Gillard was still a member of the Socialist Forum while she was helping her union boss boyfriend steal from a fatal accident and death fund. She travelled to Boulder to convince workers to hand over their money to him.
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Mark from MelbourneTue, 20 Nov 2012 08:08:54 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=332131#comment-228834Bloody hell, hard to keep track of who's who in this zoo.Bloody hell, hard to keep track of who’s who in this zoo.
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Liz45Tue, 20 Nov 2012 06:22:19 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=332131#comment-228810@Blue Green - So you believe that the PM is guilty as charged by the Australian etc do you? And I suppose it's those incompetent coppers who've let her 'off the hook'? If you don't think this, then say so! In almost 20 years no charges have been laid, and this article sheds some more light on the whole saga?
You WANT to believe otherwise????
In fact, I'm also willing to await the decision of the relevant police re Craig Tompson as well? We don't have trial by media in this country to date - I'd like that to continue, thank you! IF there was any alleged illegal activity, a Defence barrister worth his or her salt would ask for the case to be dismissed. SO, the Australian is NOT doing anyone a favour. Of course, if you need to rely on pornographic 'cartoons' to demean people you're a bloody lost cause! The Australian is a national disgrace!@Blue Green - So you believe that the PM is guilty as charged by the Australian etc do you? And I suppose it’s those incompetent coppers who’ve let her ‘off the hook’? If you don’t think this, then say so! In almost 20 years no charges have been laid, and this article sheds some more light on the whole saga?

You WANT to believe otherwise????

In fact, I’m also willing to await the decision of the relevant police re Craig Tompson as well? We don’t have trial by media in this country to date - I’d like that to continue, thank you! IF there was any alleged illegal activity, a Defence barrister worth his or her salt would ask for the case to be dismissed. SO, the Australian is NOT doing anyone a favour. Of course, if you need to rely on pornographic ‘cartoons’ to demean people you’re a bloody lost cause! The Australian is a national disgrace!

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klewsoTue, 20 Nov 2012 06:16:35 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=332131#comment-228808With the "resources" they've dedicated to this, I'm surprised Limited News didn't find this out?With the “resources” they’ve dedicated to this, I’m surprised Limited News didn’t find this out?
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tonyfunnywalkerTue, 20 Nov 2012 05:38:27 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=332131#comment-228799I wondered why the Australian had gone quiet. I expect an apology Hendley Thomas. Investigative Jouranalism - I suggest you return your reward and emrol in Jouranlism 101 was suggested to the ABC in today's Australian editorial. The egg is all over everyone's face and why keep files on a non event.
This is getting a habit for Hedley Thomas he got Wyvenoe wrong and now the AWB affair wrong. Conspiracy theorist James, find another conspiracy to vent your spleen.
I suggest the AWC scandal as starters. That should keep you happy for a while.I wondered why the Australian had gone quiet. I expect an apology Hendley Thomas. Investigative Jouranalism - I suggest you return your reward and emrol in Jouranlism 101 was suggested to the ABC in today’s Australian editorial. The egg is all over everyone’s face and why keep files on a non event.
This is getting a habit for Hedley Thomas he got Wyvenoe wrong and now the AWB affair wrong. Conspiracy theorist James, find another conspiracy to vent your spleen.
I suggest the AWC scandal as starters. That should keep you happy for a while.
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Blue GreenTue, 20 Nov 2012 04:19:32 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=332131#comment-228788Tell you what, Andrew; you give us an explanation (that passes the sniff test and does not bear any resemblance to those Mr. Latham or Ms. Gillard proffered) as to exactly why Ms. Gillard failed to alert the police as to what might have been going on (when she realized it, of course), and I'll read your offering with an open mind. Until then, sorryTell you what, Andrew; you give us an explanation (that passes the sniff test and does not bear any resemblance to those Mr. Latham or Ms. Gillard proffered) as to exactly why Ms. Gillard failed to alert the police as to what might have been going on (when she realized it, of course), and I’ll read your offering with an open mind. Until then, sorry
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Edward JamesTue, 20 Nov 2012 03:15:57 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=332131#comment-228774And a very smelly fish too! Edward JamesAnd a very smelly fish too! Edward James
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