VOOK

Posted 23 April 2009 - 07:32 PM

VOOK

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The buttons I'm still working on so don't expect them today - That fast reply one is done though.

Regarding the rank system, It's "in transition" - I had to change some ranks due to the stars, and only some ranks have the "Half" as you can see on ExciteD. It's hard to come up with a ranking system that has a good variance, you want to promote people post and rank up that are new so you let them get to 1 star pretty quickly, but eventually as the board gets older everyone ends up on 5 and 6 stars.

JC has been here since 06 and has one star, Phantom Ganon has too but has 5 - no member less of a member then the other and the system judges people on post counts, which is wrong. Perhaps it should be stars x time, but then some people who posted here for a while then took off could have 5.

trin

Posted 23 April 2009 - 07:36 PM

Phantom Ganon

Posted 23 April 2009 - 07:37 PM

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It's hard to find a balance isn't it? It's a very fine line. I'd say a respect sort of system which encourages good posts and discourages bad ones where you can rep up a person per day and rep down one as well, but that would probably fall prey to people constantly down repping people who might be contributing well. And it doesn't fix your problem about no member being better than the other. But that also brings uyp what you want the stars to represent. Maybe they're fine because they represent those who've contributed the most (aka in posts). But then that might be bad because half the posts could be spam!

I need to sleep......

Just for the record the reason why J.C has been here the same amount of years as me is because I told him to jump on (back then he was a neighbour) and the reason his post count is quite low is because he hasn't had internet while he was moving (a farily hefty period). So there's something that you're right about VOOK, the fact that he couldn't have posted as much as me because he hasn't had the internet for a while.

Phantom Ganon

Posted 23 April 2009 - 07:42 PM

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There's some more stuff we could suggest then. The way the ranking system could be named. An that one is tough too. I was going to say we use an enemy system from either Mario or Zelda but even that is subject to trivialization. Quite clearly Octorok/Goomba would go first but after that, who knows?

Toddich

Posted 23 April 2009 - 07:46 PM

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It's hard to find a balance isn't it? It's a very fine line. I'd say a respect sort of system which encourages good posts and discourages bad ones where you can rep up a person per day and rep down one as well, but that would probably fall prey to people constantly down repping people who might be contributing well. And it doesn't fix your problem about no member being better than the other. But that also brings uyp what you want the stars to represent. Maybe they're fine because they represent those who've contributed the most (aka in posts). But then that might be bad because half the posts could be spam!

There was a big discussion on that quite a while ago. The verdict was that people would abuse it.

Excite

Posted 23 April 2009 - 07:48 PM

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I think you should rank people based on their average daily posts since registration—or, instead, if someone goes on holidays or something and comes back to find a lower average, you can make it an average of the last, for example, 90 days so that they can regain their average more easily. I hope that makes sense. In other words, it would encourage all members (especially new ones) to post more often. Hmm, but then you wouldn't be able to distinguish the top posters from the noobs, damn.

Phantom Ganon

Posted 23 April 2009 - 07:52 PM

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That's not that bad an idea. One obvious issue would be if someone has to go away for a while though. It would drop their rating for absolutely no reason other than the fact that they had to go away. Which I guess would encourage members to come back but it might also inspire laziness and cause people to not return anyway. I guess it does also fall subject to people who spam get a higher rating. So maybe not ideal but I dunno.

Excite

Posted 23 April 2009 - 08:07 PM

I guess it does also fall subject to people who spam get a higher rating.

And so we come back to the main issue. If we're all so worried about people spamming, then why have a system at all?

Anyway, I'll just throw in another idea: first we take off the stars. And then we have a system (not technically a ranking system, and it would potentially chuck total posts out the window) whereby members are given titles based on where they post during a previous time period.

Before I hurt my head, let me try and explain how it could work. Ranks/titles would be allocated for each subforum and for the Vooks forum in general. The title/rank a member can attain would be based on the percentage and number of their posts the member makes in that subforum within a period of, for example, the last 30 days.In the "simplest" example, if the highest percentage of a member's posts are in the Chatter subforum, then a title would be shown based on that subforum e.g. Chatterbox. THEN, it would look at how many posts that member made in Chatter; the higher the number, the higher the rank e.g. Super Chatterbox, Ultra Chatterbox etc.

I've sort of lost my point now, but I think it would reduce competition of post counts and because there are more titles available, each is given more prestige.

trin

Posted 24 April 2009 - 01:56 PM

benanen

Posted 24 April 2009 - 01:58 PM

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And so we come back to the main issue. If we're all so worried about people spamming, then why have a system at all?

Anyway, I'll just throw in another idea: first we take off the stars. And then we have a system (not technically a ranking system, and it would potentially chuck total posts out the window) whereby members are given titles based on where they post during a previous time period.

Before I hurt my head, let me try and explain how it could work. Ranks/titles would be allocated for each subforum and for the Vooks forum in general. The title/rank a member can attain would be based on the percentage and number of their posts the member makes in that subforum within a period of, for example, the last 30 days.In the "simplest" example, if the highest percentage of a member's posts are in the Chatter subforum, then a title would be shown based on that subforum e.g. Chatterbox. THEN, it would look at how many posts that member made in Chatter; the higher the number, the higher the rank e.g. Super Chatterbox, Ultra Chatterbox etc.

I've sort of lost my point now, but I think it would reduce competition of post counts and because there are more titles available, each is given more prestige.