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Comment by Maliander

It turns out this achievement functions differently then the tooltip suggests: a total of 25 Rubble creatures must have spawned at the time Kologarn is killed. There is no need to have keep all 25 alive simultaneously, the Rubble creatures can and should be killed as soon as possible.

A killed arm respawns after 15 to 30 seconds, so it is possible to kill an arm multiple times, spawning 5 Rubble creatures each time. These adds should be offtanked and killed as soon as possible, since they can easily kill healers and the stacking debuff makes it unwise to tank them for a long period of time. Killing 5 arms in total generates the required number of Rubble creatures for this achievement, and does enough damage to Kologarn to bring him to a low health percentage.

So in order for the raid to get this achievement, they will have to focus on the arms and adds while doing low damage to Kologarn until the required 25 Rubble creatures have been killed and DPS can focus on Kologarn.

Edit: Don't know since when, but the tooltip has been clarified. Old version: Defeat Kologarn with 25 Rubble creatures alive on Heroic Difficulty

Comment by Kalx

This is harder than many of the hard modes in Ulduar.

Comment by Nerub

The wording is a bit poor here. You need to kill 25 Rubles during the whole fight, there's no need to have 25 Rubles alive simultaneously.

Comment by darknesscalls

The above poster is actually incorrect, but since the wording of the achievement is very poor it's easily understandable.

My guild got this last night, and it's fairly simple.

First off, each arm that dies spawns 5 Rubble creatures.

You do not need to have 25 Rubbles alive when Kologran is defeated, you simply need to defeat a total of 25 or more Rubbles throughout the fight, before you kill Kologran. To clarify, you only need to have spawned 25 Rubbles during the fight. Whether they are alive or not at the end of the fight is irrelevant

The best way to do this is to shift arms. Each time you kill an arm, have an off-tank gather the adds and AoE burn them immediately. Start with killing Right Arm, then Left, then Right, then Left, then finally Right. At this point, you have spawned and killed 25 rubble creatures, and Kologran should be sitting somewhere between 5-10%, so it's best to ignore the arms and burn him at this point.

And there you have it, enjoy your achievement!

Comment by Obtain

Taint Invaders on Proudmoore (US-PvE) completed Heroic: Rubble and Roll on 06-03-09. As far as we know a realm first.

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Comment by Primax

In Soviet Ulduar, Rubles spend you!

Comment by Elorin

I wish I had read this before my 10 man group completed this achievement with 25 rubbles up simultaneously. It took us about 3 or 4 tries. With 3 healers and 3 tanks, the most difficult part was holding aggro on all of the adds without killing any of them. After we got that down, it was all about praying for Kologarn not to stone grip a tank with 10 adds, causing our healers to instantly die.

....Ugh, I wish we had read this before getting the achievement.

Comment by Crazyrussian

Have to kill 5 arms, meaning that not DPSing Kologarn himself until 5 arms are dead is vital. You don't have to KILL the rubbles, just cause 25 to SPAWN. Each arm spawns 5. Achievement is obtained when Kologarn is killed.

Comment by zzmorriss

Achievement is easy at 85 - DONT DPS CHEST - DO DPS ARMS - You can also do Disarmed (25 player) at the same time. It's pretty simple - Dont DPS chest at all - Just DPS arms and kill adds 5 times then wait for arms to respawn again and kill arms and chest at same time with a bloodlust.

Comment by EnviiTheInsane

It's important to remember that killing each arm will reduce the body's health by 15%, so killing 5 arms adds up to 75% of the body's total health. For a group at level 85, there needs to be no dps on the body for this achievement because it can be easy to accidently get the body below 75% health.

I had a group this just missed getting this achievement because there had been some dps on the body and killing the 5th arm killed the body and the last rubble mobs didn't spawn. So it's very important to not have anyone on the body at all. For more information on bosses and achievements in Ulduar, please see my guide at: http://enviitheinsane.com/ulduar/

Comment by nyctric

This achievement can be quite tricky. For Hunter, you don't want your pet to be attacking Kologarn directly as you may kill 4 arms, having only spawned 20 creatures while your pet has been attacking Kologarn and killing him after you killing only 4 arms.So put your pet on passive, and Move To right infront of him, so he has something in melee range to attack.Focus down the RIGHT ARM first. The damage from stone grip isn't what kills you, it's the fact that your pet, even on passive, will move out of melee range, and he will do his raid-wide AoE that will make short work out of you.Near the 4th arm being killed, my pet was taking a lot of damage, even as Tenacity and Mend Pet rolling on him.So pop your cooldowns at around the 4th arm stage. Completed as 533 Survival Hunter.

Edit: Another annoying tidbit is that if you wipe on this guy, all the trash in the Antechamber will respawn, even if you killed them not 10 minutes before.Iron Dwarf, Medium Rare is also bugged as I had 12 of them sitting at 10k HP and her breath killing all fo them and not receiving credit for a single kill. It seems a recent patch or hotfix has made Ulduar a bit buggy as of late.

Comment by Hawkzombie

For anyone trying to solo this, there is a rather annoying mechanic (for anyone without a Pet, that is). Once you kill the arms (or wait long enough) he will cast Stone Grip. Problem is, if there is no on else around to DPS the arm to release you, you end up resetting the fight.

Every.Time.

So, as far as I can tell this achievement is unsoloable by any non-pet class (and I'm not 100% sure about the Pet classes as I didn't run with one to confirm).

Best to bring a friend.

Comment by Memnok

Very easily soloed as a lvl100 warrior, ilvl 631.

Just kill the right arm as soon as it spawns and before it grabs you.

Comment by TrainwrecHelFire

Tldr version:Every time you kill a hand, adds spawn. Keep killing hands until enough adds spawn. For me just killing hands eventually killed the boss and also gave me the achievement as well. Very easy being level 100.

Comment by Burnide

Beware if you defeat Kologarn through his arms without actually tapping Kologarn himself. He will die, but you will not get kill credit, and will be unable to loot the chest he drops. A popup window will appear asking if you want to join the instance in progress, because the system did not register you in combat with Kologarn himself at the time that he died due to the only damage he took was via the scripted arm damage.

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Comment by Wolfgang7990

25 Rubbles must be SPAWNED. Doesn't matter if you kill them or not. 5 of them will spawn for each arm killed, so leave the body alone until after you have killed 5 or more arms. Also, he will use Stone Grip even if you're alone. If that happens he will despawn due to not have a target. To avoid this, kill his right arm IMMEDIATELY. Overall, pretty easy achieve to solo for anyone and any class.