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I am so upset about this I am bawling. This should never happen. Ever. To anybody. Bless this little guy's heart... bless all those poor victims, especially the children. It shouldn't have happened to them or anybody. Nobody deserves this.

I love how Col. West talks about all the planning and preparation that it takes to train for a marathon. He also reminds us of all the planning, preparation, and intense coordination it takes to make the big Marathon run smoothly for the thousands of participants.

The terrorists - and yes they are terrorists - ( no matter who - or what color ethnicity religion ideology is behind this horror) plan as well. They plan to destroy.

Running a marathon is stupid. It's just plain stupid. Bag of hammers stupid.

When I was in the Army, I did a lot of running. That was back in the days when we ran for miles wearing combat boots. I'm convinced that running causes brain damage. I refuse to run unless something dangerous is chasing me. It simply wouldn't be prudent.

I ran Boston, and had just finished changing in the middle of Boyleston Street when I heard the first bomb, turned, saw the smoke and then the second bomb from 2 blocks away. I was pretty sure right then I had just heard the sounds of people being ripped apart.

And your reaction is "It's stupid to run marathons." That's your reaction? Seriously?

Yes, running is an addiction that makes you thinner, fitter, happier, better able to handle stress. If you train carefully and are lucky, your knees will hold out, if you're unlucky, I feel for you.

If you think "man wasn't meant to run", google "persistence hunting". It's the one physical thing we can do better than our food.

Knee Surgery vs Heart Disease/Type 2 Diabetes/general system deterioration due to obesity/etc: I'd want to see some detailed numbers before I'd believe running injuries are a major factor in insurance premiums compared to the alternative.

Someone – I was running my first marathon, obviously struggling at about mile 15. An older guy, maybe 60-65, passed me. We nodded and exchanged greetings (these are actually very social events) and he went on. A few yards later, he turned around and slowed down to let me catch up with him. He ended up running the rest of the race with me, coaching me, giving me tips…then 100 yards from the finish, he encourage me to sprint, as he held back. He didn’t have to and I didn’t ask, but he put aside his goals for the day to help a first-timer.

Granted there’s a lot of lonely training miles and family time put aside in preparation of a race – it can be a self-serving venture – I get that, but then again, small things like this happen. You just hope you can return the favor.

"Knee Surgery vs Heart Disease/Type 2 Diabetes/general system deterioration due to obesity/etc: I'd want to see some detailed numbers before I'd believe running injuries are a major factor in insurance premiums compared to the alternative."

Apparently, the evidence these days is showing that the health benefits of walking are as good as for running, so don't compare running to sitting around. Compare it to walking.

Note that with walking you can transport yourself to places where you might otherwise drive and you can do errands and carry things. Walking should set the standard by which all other physical activity is measured.

That said, is the aftermath of a bombing that blew off many legs really the time to talk about how runners are destroying their legs?

Most marathon runners I know are aware that marathon running is not the most healthy form of exercise, and that they will likely only be able to do it for a limited time. They do it because they enjoy it. I don't see the problem.

SomeoneHasToSayIt said... One of the dead is dead because he was there to greet daddy as he (daddy) also earned bragging rights.

First Pencil was being a douche and now you are. One child is dead because of some numbnut. That numbnut could have attacked any activity: a playground, an arena, a school assembly, a subway, a mall. Anything.

And it could have been your kid had that numbnut's choice been different. If it were you wouldn't have caused your kids death any more than this father did.

Yes, so if you must say it, then you must say it for any recreational human activity at all. Why do people go to football games, concerts, cinco de mayonnaise, His Holiness Saint Patrick parades, and High School plays?

..the point it, this little man is awesome. He asked about his mom and the race. These races are important to people -they are important to families. They bring out the best in all people regardless of race, ethnicity, ideology and all that other crap.It's the race, stupid.

I'd like to mention that people do run marathons for other people. Like the parents who push their disabled kids and raise money to fight whatever disease has affected their child. Or people who run to raise money for this or that cancer, or heart disease, or people who just run in memory of someone else. There's that guy who worked his ass off to lose a shit ton of weight and run Boston as a gesture to his little niece with cystic fibrosis.

And Brad Marchand, winger for the Boston Bruins, is raffling off his suite at the TD Garden, money going to the Richards family.

The Bruins, the NHL and the NHLPA have teamed up to donate $250K to effected families. The Kraft family has pledged to match the first $100K in donations to one of the other groups.

I don't run but I do walk a lot, and usually do the Alzheimer's Memory Walk (they take us somewhere and drop us off then see if we can find our way back: KIDDING, I wanted to say it before someone else just HAD TO SAY IT) to raise money for research.

By the way, those injured spectators weren't watching people run a marathon, they were there watching people finish a marathon.

You could hold a marathon in a stadium with a 400 meter track, and then spectators could watch people run a marathon (105.5 laps). Yawn.

And taking your kid to watch a ballgame is NOTHING like having your kid at the finish line of a marathon you are running. The former is about a game you are BOTH watching, and the latter is your kid watching/witnessing your 'achievement'.

One is a social event both are experiencing, the other is something else.

AprilApple said.....the point it, this little man is awesome. He asked about his mom and the race. These races are important to people -they are important to families. They bring out the best in all people regardless of race, ethnicity, ideology and all that other crap.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that. Sounds good, anyway. Until you think about it for a few seconds.

SomeoneHasToSayIt said... One is a social event both are experiencing, the other is something else.

Not the same at all.

They're not the same in terms of your enjoyment. But the nature of enjoyment or lack thereof makes no difference to who is responsible for the kid's death. If a kid is killed by a terrorist going to a family reunion he dreads are the parents responsible?

Be serious, the fact that you think running a marathon is stupid or unhealthy doesn't have any impact on the father's responsibility.

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I cannot stomach sick and injured kids. Adults? No problemo. But not children.

My first few weeks in pediatrics were awful. I wanted to cry and hug and console. Couldn't do anything intelligent for them. Knew I could never be involved in Peds. And the passage of time hasn't changed that one iota.

Stories like this are too awful for me to consider; cannot click on the link, cannot read it, cannot look at his picture. The Althouse headline was enough.

Not quite in those words, but he repeated the canard that 90 percent of Americans want background checks, and that 90 percent of Senate Democrats voted for the bill and it was only defeated because Republicans voted against it. He never mentioned that 5 Democrats joined with Republicans and that some R's did cross over.

Wow, some mean spirited stuff here. If you enjoy running run, if you don't don't. Just have the grace to not be an ass about it.I think Aaron's holding one of those disgusting slugs they have in the Pacific Northwest.

I think its natural that we would want to lash out at times like this... but at the same time its not helpful to give into that temptation however tempting it may be to give in to that knowing sense of righteous indignation... and how can it not be? I mean you look at that picture and you hear those unselfish words "did mom finish - the marathon" from that kid lying in a hospital bed and you ask yourself God why do I believe in you? please save this kid. Just save this kid and I'll never bother you ever again.

@Patrick, I have no doubt. I haven't forgiven and forgotten for the tank job 2 years ago, firing Tito, hiring the imbecile who shall not be named...none of it. Haven't seen/heard more than about ten minutes of a game so far. And while I do kind of miss baseball, I'm far more captivated by hockey. Even if the Bruins are trying out their Red Sux masks lately.

And Inga, sweetie, there are already background checks. It's the whole national registry harry reid being in charge of me thing I don't like.

Educate yourself. Obviously (supposedly) you're smart, you became a nurse you claim.

"Not quite in those words, but he repeated the canard that 90 percent of Americans want background checks, and that 90 percent of Senate Democrats voted for the bill and it was only defeated because Republicans voted against it. He never mentioned that 5 Democrats joined with Republicans and that some R's did cross over."

either 90% do or 90% don't and I've heard that number both ways. 90% is pretty solid. It's not like 50-50, where you can waffle around.

Am not a runner, but I know plenty, including one who ran in Boston on Monday. None that I know of are emaciated desiccated zombies.

I'm having a hard time understanding what's supposed to be so bad about doing something for yourself. What exactly is selfish about doing something challenging just for the satisfaction of accomplishing it?

When it becomes a religion, then maybe it's a problem. Otherwise, go for it and congratulations.

If 90% of people supported "Universal Background Checks" the Democrats would be proposing outright handgun bans.That whole 90% thing is just a talking point the community based reality needs to stroke their own intellectual insecurities with.

Obama also tried to bring up the "40% of guns don't get a background check" lie, but he stammered over the words, mumbled something about 60% and moved on.

Terrorists are the definition of toxic narcissists seeking attention to their imaginary cause and oblivious to the suffering and death of the characters in their staged plays. They are also called evil.

Most of these young children are going to make it and goon to live full and loving lives. That is the best way to destroy the narcissists game played out for attention and control.

They are wearing a black armband sown to their uniform, for the rest of the season. They have an away (they are on the road) team jersey hanging in the dugout with the Boston area code 617 sown on the back... and the manager released a statement expressing the teams sentiments.

Pogo, for your sake and all of ours, I hope Obamacare falls under it's own weight, as it appears to be doing. The 22,000 member roofers union who strongly supported Obama and the ACA today announced they want it repealed. It turns out somebody lied to them.

So the Senate could not get the anti-gun legislation passed and the senate is controlled by the Dems.Obama puts on the big angry show for his leftwing base and the senate dems in red states are not faced with a definite dismissal at election time. Though they will be anyway.

They are wearing a black armband sown to their uniform, for the rest of the season.They have an away (they are on the road) team jersey hanging in the dugout with the Boston area code 617 sown on the back... and the manager released a statement expressing the teams sentiments.

So the Broons and Pats are coming up with over $350K, and the Sawx put a number on a jersey. Got it.

Someone supposedly arrested in the Ricin mailings. Someone from Mississippi.

Weird. What kind of nut job does such a thing? Why would anyone want to harm the wonderful people we elect to govern us?

It's been snowing non-stop for 2 days here wedged up against the rocky mountains of coloradie. I'm plum sick of it and on the verge of "self-murder". Maybe someone could mail me an envelope laced with ricin?

Back when I was on chemo last year, a friend of mine ran Texas Ironman on my behalf. Had his trainer take a Sharpie and write my nickname on his ass, so I'd "be riding his ass all the way through Ironman." He then took a picture of his ass and posted it on Facebook. It was one of the greatest things anyone has ever done for me, IMHO.

Someone can kiss my ass. I know a lot of people who walk, run, ride for various causes, and raise money for those causes doing so. They're good people, and I love and respect the hell out out of them.

On my way back from work today, seeing, as I often do, people using their phones and mp3 players, and wondering how come nobody has come forward saying what they saw in Boston I started like many of us connecting dots...

Something ironic occurred to me... That the technology that supposedly is "bringing us closer together" may also at the same time be keeping us from seeing things like a man dropping a black bag in the trash.

The technology reaches out... making it possible for us to be here, for example, among other things... but the price is the alienation of our immediate surroundings.

I suppose we are making a choice... and we either grow 'eyes in the back of our heads' or put up more artificial eyes. The one thing for sure is, we are not giving up our hand holds.

traditionalguy said...Terrorists are the definition of toxic narcissists seeking attention to their imaginary cause and oblivious to the suffering and death of the characters in their staged plays. They are also called evil.

=====================Not true. Terror is simply a tool of war, and all war is is "diplomacy by a different means." Same with revolution and insurgency, where it is defined as "politics by a different means"

Our side has our war heroes and our spin on "One man's terrorist is our sides Freedom Lover!"

Our list of terrorist heroes is long. From folks like Spartacus of antiquity to the Blessed Founders burning Loyalist homes and printing presses and use of dungeons without trial. Our admiration of Gen Sherman, Gerinomo, the terrorists that helped found Israel, all the people that ordered, helped or actually dropped Napalm cluster bombs on German and Japanese kids and women to kill and terrorize. Our supposed love of The Great Nelson Mandela. Reagans honestly beloving the Holy Mujahadeen Freedom Lovers - the proto Al Qaeda, taliban and Paki ISI folks - as long as they were terrorizing America's enemy.

And the Left and the Islamoids have their own set of terrorists they consider Heroes. People out risking their lives for their sacred causes through violent means...

Yes Lem, I'm familiar with the Jimmy Fund. Have been for a long time in fact.

I never said they didn't do anything for charity. I said they weren't doing jack shit now, as compared with the Broons and Patriots. That's all I said, and there's fucking nothing fucking disfuckinghonest about what I said.

Been a mediocre-at-best runner all my life. As I approached 50 I decided to set a goal: run a marathon. I learned a lot about myself in that 17 week training program. Didn't make my goal of 4 hours so two years later ran it again (PF Chang's Rock & Roll) and finished in 3:56.

Last year when my daughter said she wanted to run a marathon, I gladly volunteered to train with her. Great bonding time. And she beat her goal of under 4 hours. Unfortunately I finished but injured myself. Just now recovered but I wouldn't trade those experiences.

I probably won't run any marathons anymore but continue to run and run races, just nothing more than a half.

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What a sweet sweet child Aaron. Healing is possible and probable. Attitude will matter. The topic of running. It is what it is with its risks and glories. Dancing for women especially is much better, yet not always easy to find a good dance studio nearby. Elliptical/Stepper is supposed to be lighter on the knees. And you do get to a point when walking is the only option, Magnesium is good for muscleaches and it's considered natural. As per orthopädie, well, maybe you stop running before it's too late. And save your knees. And yes, Happy Arteries in the End was probably worth it, no ? What would explain Clinton's Heart Surgery, though ? Hasn't he been a runner all his life ?

SomeoneHasToSayIt said, "We now know the internal damage done to all parts of the legs, by running. Feels good when you are young, brutal consequences (that we all pay for in insurance premiums) later."

I began having panic attacks about four years ago. I thought I was dying. After many trips to the er for a "heart attack", and after numerous tests we figured out what it was.

During the attacks I'd pace, or go for a really long walk. One day during one such attack it was to cold for a walk, so I jumped on the treadmill my husband had gotten me for Christmas and that had been collecting dust. That's when I discovered I could basically out run a panic attack. I became a devoted runner working up to eight miles, six days a week. I had to force myself to take a day off. Eventually the attacks disappeared altogether and I did it without therapy or medication. My knees seem fine although I've now taken up hiking with the dog.