What is the difference between the 11x and the 12x? Did they change the mold? I would think they would be the same but with a different stamp. Just curious. I was throwing my 12x today and it was wonderful. Dead straight to 300ft with a gentle fade. Made me smile.

Well there are two different molds of 11x's. The most recent mold is the CAL mold. It is basically the same thing as a regular 12x but its generally stiffer plastic. There really isn't anything special about the CALs, people pay too much for them. The older 11x mold is called the 11x KC Pro Teebird. This is the same teebird mold but it is molded with the older champion plastic. This plastic is stiff and beats in very slowly. It tends to hold lines better than the newer plastic. I personally only throw 11x KC Pros, star teebirds, and 2010 japan open TB+'s (that was the only good TB+ mold made) Innova switched out of the old plastic because the current plastic is a lot cheaper to mass produce with, especially since the sport has grown so much in the past 7 years

I've got a (9.9/10) green pearly 11x KC Pro Teebird with rainbow foil stamp that has only been thrown a few times. No ink, super-clean. The marking has faded on the disc mass marking, but when I looked closely it appears to be 167g, and feels about that weight. It's the same pearly champ blend that is in my wife's 11x KC Pro Gazelle, and is seriously the best plastic Innova ever made...really wish they could run them like that again, I think people would be willing to pay extra for it.

I have a green 11x KC Pro no ink, some scuffs but no scratches and no dings (to my memory), 175g or maybe 176 that I'd be willing to TRADE for a lighter version of the same, which I might not have mentioned except JHern's offer which might allow a three way haggle... I could send pictures/give more details this evening when I'm home where it is...

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Disc Golf (n): A game in which a round plastic object is thrown into trees until it is beat in to resemble its preferred flight characteristics, at which point it is thrown into a lake.