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Goodwill Industries rehabs computers and sells computer parts, at least in Austin, Texas. The Goodwill Computer Museum is a natural outgrowth of that effort. In this video, museum curator Lisa Worley takes Slashdot's Timothy Lord on a tour of the museum. Remember that TRS-80 you threw away in 1982? Well, they saved several of them to stimulate your nostalgia-based pleasure nodules. Ditto many other devices both common and rare, including a pre-Dell computer made and signed by Texas computer celebrity Michael Dell. So sit back and enjoy the ride, as Timothy does the walking and Lisa does the talking, kind of like Night at the Museum -- but without CGI dinosaurs and other life forms getting between you and the classic computers.

Lisa: We are in
the Goodwill Computer Museum which is here in North Austin. The
Goodwill Computer Museum has been in this location since 2005,
although the collection itself has been around since the mid ‘90s.
It started as a few shelves and the Computer Works store which is our
next door neighbor, cool things coming through the recycling stream.
We do 215 million pounds of recycling of electronics here every
month.

Tim: Wow!

Lisa: Yes, it is
an amazing amount of stuff that comes through. And so as these really
cool pieces started coming through when we started the electronics
recycling, guys in the Computer Store were basically like “This
stuff is really awesome. We shouldn’t pull it apart and recycle
it. We should show this to people.” And so it started small,
‘Relics of the Past is what it was called, a few shelves in the
store. But when we built this headquarters building for Goodwill here
in Austin they actually dedicated this space for the museum. So we’ve
been here since 2005.

Tim: Now, how
many pieces do you have on display?

Lisa: On display
we probably have 75 to 100 pieces. It’s a small space about
1200 square feet. The collection itself is absolutely enormous. We
are in an offsite warehouse location right now. Maybe 5000 to 7000
pieces of hardware; we also collect software documentation, all sorts
of stuff like that – that collection is also enormous.

Tim: So we are
looking at the tip of the iceberg here?

Lisa: Oh yes, yes.
Do not let the small size sway you to think that we don’t have
a very big collection, because it is absolutely enormous.

Tim: Now, how do
things that are here, at the museum, typically get here?

Lisa: As I said,
originally everything started coming through the recycling stream,
but in the last couple of years a lot of that, especially the older
pieces, I think they’ve already come through, so we don’t
get a lot through the recycling stream anymore. And now that people
know we are here, I get phone calls and emails with people actually
donating directly to the museum. So we have these great provenanced
pieces, we know that you donated it to us, you bought it here, you
used it for this. And those are stories that we can share when we
actually exhibit these things like how did people work with the
pieces.

Tim: Now I think
of the people who will watch this video, many of them, and I mean
many of us, have _____2:33 what we think of as a little
museum. What kind of criteria do you use to determine whether
something is actually worth putting on display or even keep in your
collection?

Lisa: Right. So we
have a few things that we look at. Because we have such an enormous
collection already of stuff that has come through the recycling
stream, sometimes if you call me and you say, “I have a TRS 80
Model 1”, well, we have some of those in the collection, but do
you have the history of your piece, does it still function? If it
functions, then we might take that, and use it as a replacement for
the one that we don’t know anything about, and switch those
out. Otherwise, we look at: Does it work? Does it look good? Do you
have any documentation with it? And do we already have it in the
collection or not?

Tim: Now one
thing, before we started the camera _____3:22 what packaging
to narrow what comes here, and look at the things that are from the
North American market?

Lisa: Yes, yeah, I
mean we have limited storage space. And so we really had to think
about what is the most important to the stories we want to tell and
so North America based although as I said, if something really
awesome comes through, I might change my mind and keep it.

Tim: With that
let’s go ahead and go through some things that you’ve got
on the wall here?

Lisa: Okay, great.

Tim: We got over
here just on the wall withmostly Apple stuff, and I noticed
some Dell from over here from 13 years ago.

Lisa: Right. It is
a really neat legacy free PC that in some ways I feel it is like the
AMD 5015, this is basically just to hook up to the internet and get
your work done. It is a really neat piece. It is so very compact, I
was really surprised when I saw it. I’d never seen anything
like this before.

Tim: And right
behind that, we have one of my favorite nostalgic computers, the
Audrey here.

Lisa: It is so
pretty. This came in multiple of colors. We have it in yellow, green
and white in the collection. This is the only one of the three that
we have that has everything with it, so the power cord, the stylus,
the manual; all three of the ones in our collection work. So it is a
beautiful touchscreen. And it is a really neat piece.

Tim: Really neat.
Let’s walk around a little bit and I know also you’ve got
some communications devices here, I’ve never seen in person one
of these Braille printers before.

Lisa: Yeah, I had
never seen one before. They are really cool. And Goodwill’s
mission is to work with people that have barriers to employment, and
so we and our collection, we like to try to make sure we collect
those things that represent that also. So the Braille reader, that
you would put under your keyboard or under your laptop, and so people
can actually read what’s on the screen, and the same with the
coupler and the printer, so for phone calls, there is this nice
little LCD screen there, and you can also print it out on a little
receipt piece of paper, your conversation.

Tim: That’s
very neat. Now, I’d like to walk around the edges a little bit
more. And just check out some of the very older stuff on the far wall
here.

Lisa: Yeah. You
want to start with the PDP 8S? So this is a piece that actually a
former volunteers got running again. So they worked for months to get
this piece up and running. So you can see it has fans on the side,
over here, it has got its power cord.

Tim: I like the
Plexiglas.

Lisa: Yes, yes, of
course custom made, to fit over the top of that. I love that you can
see inside so when we get school groups through here, we can show
like, them this is the difference between pulling out my smart phone
and what we use now versus something like this - they are so big. And
it is a beautiful piece. And it went on sale, it cost $10,000. That’s
an amazing amount of money.

Tim: Now is this a
machine that can turn on?

Lisa: I don’t
know. I actually admit that I’ve never turned it on before, I
don’t know.

Tim: You’ve
been on the _____6:34.

Lisa: I would be
very nervous. We actually have a restoration manual that the last
volunteer put together. It is this huge 3-inch thick binder of every
step he took going through testing and rebuilding it.

Tim: Yeah, and I
guess you have a mixed mission here both to display, and some pieces
are restored back to working function.

Lisa: Yes, and in
the past, it had been more of a restoration focus. When I came on
board, we decided that it was really important to know everything
that we have in the collection. So we’ve sort of stopped
restoration for now. We are doing inventory of absolutely everything
that we own. We are putting it into a database that we are going to
make available online by next year, so people can see what we have in
our collection. While testing for functionality and making notes,
things that don’t work, that need help, once the inventory is
done, we can say these are candidates for restoration and then return
to that mission.

Tim: With the
volume of recycling you mentioned, it seems like a pretty deep task
to take on.

Lisa: Yes,
absolutely, absolutely.

Tim: Now what
about the state _____7:40.

Lisa: You know, I
don’t really know a lot about this. It’s gorgeous. I love
the colors. You can see the big platter down here, I don’t
believe that this one works.

Tim: And next to
it, we have an even older device.

Lisa: Oh yeah. Again talking to
school kids about ‘this was your computer screen, this is your
printer.’ This just came in a couple of months ago from a donor
here in town in beautiful condition, other than this. Actually at the
storage, we still have the paper tape that goes with it. So yeah,
1965.

Tim: And this famously is the
variety of the place, not the individual one where the “@”
sign came for email. That is a pretty neat historical legacy down on
a piece of hardware.

Lisa: Yeah, yeah.

Tim: And I guess telex is,
nowadays people ask for fax numbers, and I should start to get them a
telex number, because it seems about as historically interesting.

Lisa: Yeah, people still fax
yeah.

Tim: And in the corner, you have
a floppy drive.

Lisa: Right, this thing is like
solid metal. It weighs a good I don’t know, 15 to 20 pounds. We
ran across this when we were doing the inventory, because again there
is no provenance with this. It’s just this floppy drive. I was
considering de-accessioning it from the collection. And all of my
volunteers said “Absolutely not. We have to have this. It is so
awesome.“ And so then, we were picking out new items for the
exhibit, I said, “Well, what would you guys like to see in
exhibit? You work with this stuff just as much as I do.” Half
of them said this, “You have to put this out.” So, there
it is.

Tim: We are probably _____9:26
birthdays by what size floppies were in use when they were born.

Lisa: Yeah, it is funny, holding
up like floppies like this. People are – I had – they
know clearly that they were that big. It is really cool.

Tim: Now, let’s go again
around the _____9:39 you have a pretty nice wall here,
all-in-one units. You’ve got everything from purely terminal to
you’ve got, Matthew Broderick’s _____9:54 breaking
machine here, not the actual one and you got Commodore PET, you have
got TRS 80.

Lisa: Right, the trinity of
computers, right?

Tim: And I want to actually take
a _____10:07 to theright over here, I see another TRS
80, which is a little more unusual, explain this to me in just a bit.

Lisa: So, this came out in early
1980s, and it was basically the TRS 80 Data Terminal. So people –
so business travelers could take this on the road, remotely hook up
to another computer and do their work on the road.

Tim: And so, this is the MacBook
Air of 1982.

Lisa: Yeah, there you go. And
honestly, much, much lighter than something like the Kaypro or all
those Osbornes, they weigh like a ton you know.

Tim: Now what about the display
capability of the portable kit, hook up to a television?

Lisa: Oh this? No.

Tim: Surely, it is internal.

Lisa: Yeah, and it is like a
thermal paper roll that you could order for that.

Tim: So, it is basically, as far
as display, it’s lot like Model 100. It’s a

Lisa: Yes, yes, absolutely, with
the _____11:05 yes. Yeah.

Tim: Another one that we’ve
got here, that really seems ahead of its times in some ways, is the
Apricot

Lisa: Yeah, that thing’s
really cool. And again Apricot is a UK based company, so do we keep
it, or do we not keep it, it is so cool, this is another one that the
volunteers said, ”Absolutely, you have to keep this. It is
wonderful.” So 1984, wireless keyboard, the mouse is actually
called a light pipe, infrared. This computer had speech recognition
technology, so they had over 4000 words; the problem was you could
only hold 64 words in RAM at any given time, so limited but still
cool.

Tim: Absolutely.

Lisa: I mean 1984, it was 11
years old. It is amazing.

Tim: Now, this is just because
of the UK connections it reminds me a little bit of where we would
put Raspberry Pi in 30 years from now. I think they’re going to
be recognized as sort of an interesting milestone.

Lisa: Right, right, absolutely.

Tim: Is there anything on the
floor that we’ve been walking around here that you really like
to show off that I’ve ignored so far.

Lisa: You know, I don’t
know that to people know about Datapoint. Yeah, that is a really cool
story. The guys moved here, and opened up the computer company in San
Antonio and many people consider these and the 2200 over here
especially like what is the first personal computer? It is an
all-in-one personal computer 1970. That’s super early. And
obviously these were used as like mainframes, but still a really nice
piece. We have a large collection of Datapoint items. One of the sons
of one of the co-founders lives here in town and so, he has been
really instrumental in donating documentation and hardware to us.

Tim: And I know Michael Dell has
been involved with some donations here as well.

Lisa: Yes, actually right over
here. We have a very early PCs Limited and when it came through the
stream, it was – everybody was really excited and so, we went
to Michael Dell and asked him if he would actually sign the PC, so he
signed the keyboard and actually the side of the terminal over here.

Tim: So, this is one of the ones
that he was building in the dorm room at UT?

Lisa: You know, I don’t
know but it is definitely an early one. I mean that would be really
cool, right?

Tim: It really would. He is one
of the famous computer drop-outs, these big three probably lot more
that, if you look at it that way.

Lisa: Lucky.

Tim: Now also would you have
some bigger pieces under here, I realized that these are technically
on display the same way some of the others are?

Lisa: Right, I mean yeah.

Tim: It had some of these really
large either storage in some cases. Here is a

Lisa: Right, this 8-inch.

Tim: Interesting box here, I
always see Radio Shack Computers. I very rarely see associated larger
verticals like this, and this is a disk system, you mentioned you are
not sure how much this actually held, right?

Lisa: I do not know. I’ll
admit that I have not done a lot of research on that. But we had a
really cool peripherals in general come through. So, these are really
neat. We also had with the Model 3 a really early screen printer,
have you seen those, they print out like in a barrel shape, on like a
receipt paper, I have never seen anything like that before. It was
really cool.

Tim: Great, yeah. I think people
are going to be intrigued to see some of the _____14:44
display here, but like I said, some many people have interesting
things, that they probably would like to see on display, right, is
there a way for people to get to contact you and say, ‘I have
got an interesting piece of hardware’, wondering if they are
interested.

I visited there last year when I was in Austin for Formula 1. We happened to stumble upon the location as it's located in a strip mall right next to a Wal-Mart.
The museum is pretty cool and has some neat stuff. If you are in the area it's definitely worth a look. There is also a great Goodwill computer store right next door with parts for older stuff (Mostly Dell, of course).

The problem with old computers is power consumption. A newer Atom or ARM will do the same job at 2 watts that a clunky old PC would consume 200 for. $0.15/kwh * 200 watts * 24 hours * 365 days = $262.8. That'll buy a lot of RaspberryPIs and their power consumption is practically negligable. The other problem is they're big. If you only run it infrequently and real estate is not an issue then whatever, might as well keep the old one.