re: Iran Contra did not bring down Reagan WMD lies ..(Posted by IceTiger on 5/11/13 at 1:46 pm to asurob1)

You are partly right to laugh, because there was so much other stuff it came out on ships from 08-10, that only ghd nasty chemical and bio weopons were brought to Syria...the reason why you didn't see Bush dancing in the streets to gloat is because it was daunting to find out all that contributed to Saddam's stockpile since the US stopped in '88...

quote:Satellite photos of a suspicious site in Syria are providing new support for the reporting of a Syrian journalist who briefly rocked the world with his reporting that Iraq’s WMD had been sent to three sites in Syria just before the invasion commenced.

The newspaper reveals that a 200 square-kilometer area in northwestern Syria has been photographed by satellites at the request of a Western intelligence agency at least 16 times, the most recent being taken in January. The site is near Masyaf, and it has at least five installations and hidden paths leading underneath the mountains. This supports the reporting of Nizar Nayouf, an award-winning Syrian journalist who said in 2004 that his sources confirmed that Saddam Hussein’s WMDs were in Syria.

Only an idiot would dispute Iraq had chemical weapons. The questions are what they did with them, and when.

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re: Iran Contra did not bring down Reagan WMD lies ..(Posted by asurob1 on 5/11/13 at 2:32 pm to IceTiger)

quote:You are partly right to laugh, because there was so much other stuff it came out on ships from 08-10, that only ghd nasty chemical and bio weopons were brought to Syria...the reason why you didn't see Bush dancing in the streets to gloat is because it was daunting to find out all that contributed to Saddam's stockpile since the US stopped in '88...

Look I don't know you so I won't ridicule you...but if anyone here still believes that we went into Iraq looking for WMDs, I have this bridge in China for sale.

re: Iran Contra did not bring down Reagan WMD lies ..(Posted by ljhog on 5/11/13 at 6:33 pm to Cholo)

quote:Not sure if serious

But, I am sure you and others posting in this thread are of below average intelligence. The nexus of WMDs, terrorist organizations, and a nation state with resources was exactly the reason for going into Iraq. Bush's biggest mistakes where not going sooner and with a larger force.

re: Iran Contra did not bring down Reagan WMD lies ..(Posted by GeauxxxTigers23 on 5/11/13 at 6:46 pm to Cholo)

His biggest mistake was disbanding the Iraqi army and alienating all the Baathist following the invasion. Many of whom were on Baathist so they could get jobs. They were all fired and that left no one qualified to run the government. Also you had a few hundred thousand out of work soldiers with no skill set other than fighting(sort of). AQ and other terrorist/insurgent groups would pay these guys to fight Americans.

If we hadn't alienated the Baathists and disbanded the army we would have been out of there in a year or two and none of these libs would even remember that war.

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re: Iran Contra did not bring down Reagan WMD lies ..(Posted by asurob1 on 5/11/13 at 9:37 pm to ljhog)

quote:But, I am sure you and others posting in this thread are of below average intelligence. The nexus of WMDs, terrorist organizations, and a nation state with resources was exactly the reason for going into Iraq. Bush's biggest mistakes where not going sooner and with a larger force.

After the first Gulf War Iraq's WMD were destroyed under UN Supervision The first weapons inspector Scott Ritter was dumped after he said there were no WMD. Then the second weapons inspector chief was ignored when he begged for more time because they had found none.

Bush himself has said none were found and idiots here still say there was. He's said there is no evidence any were moved to Syria. Yet you guys still cite neocons who were proven wrong over and over.

I remember a press conference with Bush and Chirac when a Fox reporter prefaced his question with the company line "the whole world thought Iraq had WMD." Chirac stopped him and said no. The world didn't believe this. The fact was that no WMD had been found since stockpiles were destroyed 10 years before. The world begged Bush to wait but he insisted on going to avoid an invasion during the hot Iraqi summer. Brilliant.

The Right vilified Hans Blix and Ritter and never came back and gave them credit for being right. Instead it's that's stupid mantra that the whole world thought they had WMD. Blix and ritter didn't and they were there!

quote:In June, 1999, Ritter responded to an interviewer, saying: "When you ask the question, 'Does Iraq possess militarily viable biological or chemical weapons?' the answer is no! It is a resounding NO. Can Iraq produce today chemical weapons on a meaningful scale? No! Can Iraq produce biological weapons on a meaningful scale? No! Ballistic missiles? No! It is 'no' across the board. So from a qualitative standpoint, Iraq has been disarmed. Iraq today possesses no meaningful weapons of mass destruction capability."

quote:MONTAGNE: Although there were those in the Bush administration, and advisors to the administration, who, sort of, accused you of not really be able to do that job. That there were so many places these chemical weapons, especially, could have been hidden, that it would be like a needle in a haystack - you would never be able to find what he had, if Saddam didn't want you to find it.

BLIX: Well, if they had simply said that, that you will not ever be able to be absolutely sure, but they went much beyond that. They asserted that there were weapons. Now, we didn't exclude - even in the last moment - that there could be some weapons. But as inspections proceeded, then we became more doubtful. And, as also the evidence that they submitted from the Bush administration and from the U.K. fell apart in large measure, then our doubts increased.

re: Iran Contra did not bring down Reagan WMD lies ..(Posted by trackfan on 5/12/13 at 12:25 am to IceTiger)

quote:You are partly right to laugh, because there was so much other stuff it came out on ships from 08-10, that only ghd nasty chemical and bio weopons were brought to Syria...the reason why you didn't see Bush dancing in the streets to gloat is because it was daunting to find out all that contributed to Saddam's stockpile since the US stopped in '88...

I'm a person that thought that Saddam still had chemical weapons and I still opposed the war because I don't believe that the U.S. can arrogate to itself the right to be the world's BATF enforcer. I believe in the concept of an international Second Amendemnt, because as Charles de Gaulle once said, "No country without an atom bomb could properly consider itself independent".