Schefter just reported on Sunday Countdown on ESPN that with Mike Nolan coming to Miami, and with JT and JP getting up there in age, he expects Miami to try and get Dumervil, who has 3 more career sacks than Mario Williams.

Also, Dumervil is from Miami, and played HighSchool ball in Miami.

Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:02 am

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumerville in RFA

Lol I was just rushing here to post the same thing....

I'm wondering what it will cost us to get him being how as he's an RFA

Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:04 am

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumerville in RFA

IamPZ wrote:

Lol I was just rushing here to post the same thing....

I'm wondering what it will cost us to get him being how as he's an RFA

Depends. If Denver offers him the highest tender in RFA, it would cost a 1st and a 3rd round draft pick, and a lot of money. If not, then just a 2nd round pick.

For the latter, I'd do it. Not for 2 high draft picks though.

Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:09 am

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA

Yeah a 1st and a 3rd is steep especially since we have a good chance to snag McClain in the 1st.

I hate trading away draft picks, but in Dumervil you get a sure thing that has proven success in Nolan's system. Tough choice.

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA

Rich wrote:

I hate trading away draft picks, but in Dumervil you get a sure thing that has proven success in Nolan's system. Tough choice.

But would you do it for a 1st and a 3rd?

Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:38 pm

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA

A first and third is definitely to steep a price but if a second pick is all it takes then it should be done... You're picking a sure thing instead of taking a risk, it'll be stupid not to do it in that situation

ESPN's Adam Schefter suggests that impending restricted free agent OLB Elvis Dumervil will be on the Dolphins' radar this offseason.The connection with Mike Nolan is obvious, as Dumervil enjoyed a career year under the Fins' new defensive boss in 2009. Dumervil also is from Miami. While the Broncos surely will want to retain the 26-year-old NFL sacks leader, coach Josh McDaniels abides by the ideology that any player is trade-able. The Dolphins' No. 12 overall pick could probably get it done.Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:21 pm

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA

OMG, I hate "link" rumors.

We have C.Wake. He is so clearly our Dumervil. This makes no sense.

Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:24 pm

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA

LikeUntoGod wrote:

OMG, I hate "link" rumors.

We have C.Wake. He is so clearly our Dumervil. This makes no sense.

How does adding the NFL's sack leader to one's roster make no sense??

Wake is a strong side OLB....Dumervil is a weak side guy.

Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:30 pm

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA

it makes no sense cause he is atrocious against the run plus did nobody read the part of "the dolphins # 12 overall " should get it done .......no frickin way

Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:27 pm

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA

nonamedefense wrote:

it makes no sense cause he is atrocious against the run plus did nobody read the part of "the dolphins # 12 overall " should get it done .......no frickin way

If he is bad against the run, we don't need him. We already have a pass rushing monster who can't cover the run.

_________________A good RB is nice, a good QB even better, but it's best to be able to stop someone first.

Moral of the story is that sometimes raw numbers can be decieving. That entire team sucked against the run, not just him. When you have that kind of run D it's more of an interior line problem and not so much a LB issue. I think he'll be better than avg with our guys.

Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:19 pm

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA

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Keep in mind that sight also has Jared Allen ranked 6th in 4-3 DE's and VIncent Jackson as the #1 WR...

Moral of the story is that sometimes raw numbers can be decieving. That entire team sucked against the run, not just him. When you have that kind of run D it's more of an interior line problem and not so much a LB issue. I think he'll be better than avg with our guys.

so we picked up a D-Coordinator that can't scheme against the run? great

Not so much scheme... run D in a 3-4 starts and ends with your NT. Denver's NT ranks somewhere with the save the spotted owl society.

Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:01 pm

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA

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Not so much scheme... run D in a 3-4 starts and ends with your NT. Denver's NT ranks somewhere with the save the spotted owl society.

all solveable by picking up Vince Wilfork as well!

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA

that would be a great addition to get dumervil. i like the sound of getting dumervil if we could get him & draft mclain with our first & a saftie in the 3rd or 4th that would be sweet

Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:00 pm

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA

TheBigFish wrote:

Ski_Money wrote:

Not so much scheme... run D in a 3-4 starts and ends with your NT. Denver's NT ranks somewhere with the save the spotted owl society.

all solveable by picking up Vince Wilfork as well!

This might be a question for another thread, but say the Dolphins do get Wilfork, and they draft McClain and maybe an outside linebacker in the 2nd round. It's the 3rd round and Cody is still there, do you take him?

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA

Iowafin wrote:

TheBigFish wrote:

Ski_Money wrote:

Not so much scheme... run D in a 3-4 starts and ends with your NT. Denver's NT ranks somewhere with the save the spotted owl society.

all solveable by picking up Vince Wilfork as well!

This might be a question for another thread, but say the Dolphins do get Wilfork, and they draft McClain and maybe an outside linebacker in the 2nd round. It's the 3rd round and Cody is still there, do you take him?

Nah, we need safety help... and Cody seems to be so one dimensional we could probably snag a better NT in a later draft.

Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:20 pm

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA

Not for a first, no way at all. A second for a proven player though may be worth parting with.

Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:23 pm

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA

Elvis is listed at 5'11, but 5'10 3/4 is probably more like it. But since when did a Parcells team start going after smaller linebackers? I recall Bill Belichick talking about these Dolphins and Parcells' player size preference:

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“This has Bill Parcells stamped all over it, no question about it,” Belichick said of the Dolphins. “All the linebackers are big. All the outside linebackers can rush. Their corners are big. Running backs are big. Tackles are big. They’re a big, powerful team. I’m sure that’s the way Tony [Sparano] wants it, the way Bill wants it. It’s the way Jeff [Ireland] wants it. They trade for a guy like McDaniel, they get a big defensive lineman, that’s what they want and that’s what they got with him. They sign a guy like [Cameron] Wake from [CFL] who can rush the edge. That’s why they signed him. Another big guy who can run and rush the quarterback.”

Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:31 am

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Re: Adam Schefter: Dolphins to take flyer on Dumervil in RFA

I'm not sure if I would give up both a 1st (#12 spot in the draft) and a 3rd round pick for Dumervil. I'd give up our first round pick for him.