Indiana Democrats Flee State To Block Anti-Union Bill: Reports

Indiana Democrats Flee State To Block Anti-Union Bill: Reports

Democratic lawmakers are fleeing Indiana in an attempt to block anti-union legislation, the Indianapolis Star reports. A source tells the
paper that the Democrats will most likely enter Illinois, where fleeing Wisconsin senators are also ensconced as part of a similar
maneuver.

Vitchillo, I'm not really disturbed by the fact that two state's dems have abandoned there post because they aren't doing their jobs, I'm really
freaking worried about what else is up. Two state's dems flee their state to the SAME state. We'll see if others do the same. If they do I would
say what are they up to and why are they all fleeing to the same location amidst a simple bill that can either be passed or declined with a simple
vote. So much for democracy.

Vitchillo, I'm not really disturbed by the fact that two state's dems have abandoned there post because they aren't doing their jobs, I'm really
freaking worried about what else is up. Two state's dems flee their state to the SAME state. We'll see if others do the same. If they do I would
say what are they up to and why are they all fleeing to the same location amidst a simple bill that can either be passed or declined with a simple
vote. So much for democracy.

In all seriousness, its probably because Illinois "borders" Wisconsin and Indiana". When the MSM sesationalize events like this, its usually
because something else is currently going on, that tptb want to go "under the radar" if you will.

The article states that they left due to a bill that stops unions and corporations from forcing NON union members to PAY fees for representation that
they obviously do not want, seeing as though they are not in a union. So, that would seem to me that the dems are crying because their financial
backers (the unions) do not get to steal even more money from the workers.

So explain to me how it is right for the union to take my money, without my consent? I want some union stooges to explain that to me

Too bad you won't get the real reasons these democrats are leaving their respective states, listening to faux news. In Wisc, the governor can, sell
all state owned utilities, without letting bids. Koch brothers anyone? It's in the union busting bill. It was the koch brothers that funded the
crackpot governor in Wi.

Love it when you people say the gravy train is over (Limbaugh anyone?) but the problem is, Wi, had a surplus, until that governor called a special
session to pay off those that paid to get him elected.

It's hilarious that only the unions that DIDN'T back the crackpot, are being targeted, the unions that did? Nope, they aren't included.

Love it when people say the media is liberal. That's laughable right there, they don't report the real reasons for union busting. Unions aren't the
problem, paying off the wall street banksters, and the likes of the Koch brothers is breaking the states, not union pensions.

When the unions are gone, so is the protections that EVERYONE has enjoyed since the concept of unions. Gone, will be safe work conditions, 40 hour
work weeks, vacation time, sick time, pto time, overtime and countless other protections. Enjoy it while you can, the party is nearly over. 70-80 hour
work weeks? Looking forward to it. NOT.

The reason states are in trouble, is the economy, NOT UNION PENSIONS. The republicons are still playing the game, hoping to regain power. It's been
the goal all along. I can't wait until they regain power, then the sheep will follow them over the cliff again.

The protests in Egypt, will look nice compared to whats going to happen here, when the right gets it's agenda going full force, and it's started.

Too bad you won't get the real reasons these democrats are leaving their respective states, listening to faux news. In Wisc, the governor can,
sell all state owned utilities, without letting bids.

And how many utilities does the State government own? Do tell. (here’s a hint, the answer is zero)

Koch brothers anyone? It's in the union busting bill. It was the koch brothers that funded the crackpot governor in Wi.

I am sure you will have no problems demonstrating that with some source material from Opensecrets. What? You mean to tell me that the Koch’s
didn’t donate so much as one dime to his campain! Say it aint so!

Love it when you people say the gravy train is over (Limbaugh anyone?) but the problem is, Wi, had a surplus, until that governor called a
special session to pay off those that paid to get him elected.

It's hilarious that only the unions that DIDN'T back the crackpot, are being targeted, the unions that did? Nope, they aren't included.

Once again, more bull. Of the 314 fire and police unions in the state only 4 endorsed Walker.

The reason states are in trouble, is the economy, NOT UNION PENSIONS. The republicons are still playing the game, hoping to regain power. It's
been the goal all along. I can't wait until they regain power, then the sheep will follow them over the cliff again.

Hey pal, were you asleep last November? Here’s a recap, the Republicans DID regain electoral control.

The protests in Egypt, will look nice compared to whats going to happen here, when the right gets it's agenda going full force, and it's started.

The right? That would be BOTH parties. They both work for the corporations.

The reason states are in trouble, is the economy, NOT UNION PENSIONS.

Actually it's both. The economy is in the crapper because of the banks who screwed the whole system, the government who wrote tons of loopholes for
the banks to screw the system, the FED, and the export of jobs.

And the states are in trouble because the pensions promises were based on BS numbers and accounting. They promised IMPOSSIBLE returns.

No way in hell the pensions will get paid, wouldn't matter even if all the states were filled with democrats/pro-union people. There's just isn't
enough money.

Originally posted by saturnsrings
Too bad you won't get the real reasons these democrats are leaving their respective states, listening to faux news. In Wisc, the governor can, sell
all state owned utilities, without letting bids. Koch brothers anyone? It's in the union busting bill. It was the koch brothers that funded the
crackpot governor in Wi.

Love it when you people say the gravy train is over (Limbaugh anyone?) but the problem is, Wi, had a surplus, until that governor called a special
session to pay off those that paid to get him elected.

It's hilarious that only the unions that DIDN'T back the crackpot, are being targeted, the unions that did? Nope, they aren't included.

Love it when people say the media is liberal. That's laughable right there, they don't report the real reasons for union busting. Unions aren't the
problem, paying off the wall street banksters, and the likes of the Koch brothers is breaking the states, not union pensions.

When the unions are gone, so is the protections that EVERYONE has enjoyed since the concept of unions. Gone, will be safe work conditions, 40 hour
work weeks, vacation time, sick time, pto time, overtime and countless other protections. Enjoy it while you can, the party is nearly over. 70-80 hour
work weeks? Looking forward to it. NOT.

The reason states are in trouble, is the economy, NOT UNION PENSIONS. The republicons are still playing the game, hoping to regain power. It's been
the goal all along. I can't wait until they regain power, then the sheep will follow them over the cliff again.

The protests in Egypt, will look nice compared to whats going to happen here, when the right gets it's agenda going full force, and it's started.

Thanks for repeating the union bosses' talking points.

The real truth is that the unions don't want to lose the right to FORCE people to join them and pay dues in order to just get a job in
that state. Dues that are then spent for political purposes many of the union members do not agree with.

If Wisconsin (and other states) return to being "right to work" states, then the workers can take the union dues they would have been forced to pay
and apply them to their increased health care and pension costs. In other words, it would be a wash for the workers, and they would get to apply
their money for something that does them some good instead for funding things like union political activities.

Sounds like a win-win situation for the workers.

Oh, and fear-mongering much on this turning into another Egypt?

This NY Times article says support for the union's position is starting to fade away as
people understand the situation better.

And this article points out that even with the highest per-pupil
education costs in the Midwest - and those $100,000/year teacher salaries - two thirds that's two thirds of Wisconsin 8th grade students can't
read proficiently.

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