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If you've replaced or deactivated a receiver recently, that would obviously be it. If not, I would do what jeffshoaf recommends and check the web site to see if you can figure it out.

If DirecTV sent you a "Return Kit" and they get nothing back (within a week to ten days maybe?), you WILL get dinged with a (probably $470) Non-Return Fee. I really see no reason that a CSR couldn't look at your account and tell you what triggered the return kit.

I've always wondered about the return kits. I've got one deactivated receiver just sitting around taking up space and they never sent a box out for it.

…and sending it back by Fedex? What a hassle! There's no Fedex shipping places around here for probably 50 miles.

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They send a pre-paid box with the shipping instructions, packing material, sealing tape, and return label pre-printed. FedEx delivers everywhere and picks up everywhere....don't see any "hassle" with that.

The empty box is for an H23 that replaced an H20 that I thought I bought prior to Mar 2006. I have always had the protection plan. I had deactivated it because it was in my other house and not being watched.
Question 1: How can I determine the date of activation of the orig. H20?
Question 2: Are H23's leased or owned. I thought it was just HR2x's?
Question 3: Can I just reactivate them to avoid losing them?
Question 4: Is it cheaper to pay the penalty or re buy one when they get MRV figures out?

When I had the local 72 swap done at my house I had 3 d11s and 1 r15 that were replaced with 3 h21s and an r22. I called up to get return kits to send back the equipment they REQUIRED me to swap.

So I get the two return kits and they both have the return labels in the boxes. I look at the model numbers they requested. Of course one box lists the RID #s of two h21s and the other has the RIDs #s for the third h21 and r22..... I just had that equipment installed why would I send that back........

anyways I called back up and asked what was up with this and the CSR said thats wrong.... of course :nono:. So he tells me to just throw them boxes and packing material away.....wasted shipping of two perfectly fine return kits... Then he sends out two more return kits which I received but these dont list the specific receivers.....
I just put two D11s in one return kit and one d11 and r15 in the other. I wrote down all the specs of everything in case anything comes up from this. I just wanted to post what I had to go through just to get rid of the old equipment DirecTV swaped out for free so I could keep my local channels :nono2:

The empty box is for an H23 that replaced an H20 that I thought I bought prior to Mar 2006. I have always had the protection plan. I had deactivated it because it was in my other house and not being watched.
Question 1: How can I determine the date of activation of the orig. H20?
Question 2: Are H23's leased or owned. I thought it was just HR2x's?
Question 3: Can I just reactivate them to avoid losing them?
Question 4: Is it cheaper to pay the penalty or re buy one when they get MRV figures out?

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Question 1: Im not sure about this one maybe going back through your bills to see when it was first activated?
Question 2: Im almost positive that all equipment now days is leased.
Question 3: If you deactivated an H23 most likely they want it returned because its leased.
Question 4: Im not sure what you mean by this. The penalty would be paying for non-returned equipment and thats outrageous. If the receiver is deactivated I would just reactive it for the extra $4.99 a month lease fee. I think that I understood what you said please explain if im wrong.

Under the protection plan, owned is supposed to be replaced with owned. This doesn't always happen though. I believe you need to reach the access card department to get a receiver changed from lease to own. If the H20 was owned (check older bills if you can to see how the monthly fee was described) then the H23 should be as well. I would suggest calling back and getting transfered to the access card department to see if they can straighten out the status of your H23. They hopefully can also cancel the return box so you don't still get charged. To be safe I would cancel autopay if you are enrolled to avoid be charged for the non-return until things are figured out.

The empty box is for an H23 that replaced an H20 that I thought I bought prior to Mar 2006. I have always had the protection plan. I had deactivated it because it was in my other house and not being watched.
Question 1: How can I determine the date of activation of the orig. H20?

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Log into your account at Directv.com, go to Account Details, then to View All Orders. It should be on that page.

Log into your account at Directv.com, go to Account Details, then to View All Orders. It should be on that page.

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Just thought I would note that view all orders on my account has never worked for me. I have checked it every time I log into my account. It always has that "try again later" message. It has been like this for as long as I can remember.

If DirecTV sent you a "Return Kit" and they get nothing back (within a week to ten days maybe?), you WILL get dinged with a (probably $470) Non-Return Fee.

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So true. In fact, the last receiver I returned, I never got a return box, even though they claimed to have sent it. So I called and asked for another one, returned my receiver in that box, and thought all was well. Then a few weeks later get dinged for $470. Turns out it was for the first box that I never received. So any box that supposedly goes out and doesn't come back you'll likely get charged for. Their whole system apparently relies on the boxes and not what's in them, because they charged me for a receiver I'd already returned.