Originally posted by Memphis9er:He is not costing us games, what more can you ask for at this point in time? Clutch?
I have seen nothing to make me want to have to count on him to have to win a game. We are a defense first team, so Hill will usually not have to be the one to win the game. As long as the defense keeps it close, we always have a chance. I think that any of our QB's could win with this defense having their back.

Just ran across this on ESPN, Clutch players don't end up on this list...

Have you been watching the games so far? Hill has led needed TD drives this year and even *GASP* passed for a TD. I'd say that's clutch. Who knows how many he might have before the years over. He may even go into the crapper. But he is the answer for now and seems to be making the most of it. We all know why you hate on Hill.

I am happy with the results Hill is putting up, it is all about the W. I just think some of you guys are getting carried away about a mediocre player. It is funny how some posters here are so knee jerk with their opinions about our players. Just because I want our QB to play better, make quicker decisions, not throw into double and triple coverage, and learn how to throw a spiral, it doesn't mean I hate the man. So far it hasn't hurt us, but our schedule gets a lot tougher the next couple of months, and we are going to need better play from the o line and Hill. I think Crabtree will help Hills numbers because he runs the bubble screen so well, and that is the kind of pass that Hill can throw. I don't "hate on" Hill, I don't "hate on" anyone, so please don't "hate on" me.

I'm with you, how can anyone hate having Gomer Pyle for your Qb but just because he's a regular guy doesn't make it ok to ignore that he is throwing into double coverage and he's a weak passer it's a fact doesn't mean you can't like the wins , the most frequent remark is " He hasn't lost us any games" yeah I should hope not, we saw enough of that the last year

Interesting that you guys make an emphasis that he makes bad decisions of throwing into coverage. Accurate QBs throw into coverage, and hit their receivers instead of the defensive players. So far is he has thrown one interception in four games, and that was when Delanie Walker tripped on a deep sideline sprint.

No, Shaun Hill must turn every drive into TD's, like Alex Smith did.

That's ridiculous, you sound like a child, not even I expect him to end every drive with a TD , what do you consider reasonable 50% , 33% , 25% I don't know what percentage of drives have ended in a TD let alone a FG but I bet it's not close to any of these numbers

Oh, so being comfortable with the offense, O-line protection, running the ball when its not working, penalties all fall on a QB?? You act like we run the Run-N-Shoot or something.

And when the O and all it's parts has a successful drive we get threads entitled Shaun Hill is Clutch. Hill apparently is only involved when the team scores. Some of you seem to give him all the credit and none of the blame, that's all I'm saying

No kidding, someone is being a little hypocritical.

We all know Hill has weaknesses, and isn't the greatest QB in the NFL by a long shot. But they are 3-1, and one goddamn miracle Brett Farve TD away from being 4-0. So what exactly is there to blame him about? It seems very odd to me after the last several years people looking for someone to blame something on after wins.

One thing for sure is this team now wins as a team. Hill is part of that. He is not just some guy in there doing nothing well while everyone else is winning the game. For sure he is a solid contributer. If you can't see that, your spite has blinded you, or you don't understand what your watching, or you just want to argue for arguing's sake.

This is what I am saying, if we win it is a team effort, and if we lose it is a team effort, but there are some here that want to give Hill all the credit for winning games, but the defense has as much, or more to do with our winning than any part of the offense.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:He is not costing us games, what more can you ask for at this point in time? Clutch?
I have seen nothing to make me want to have to count on him to have to win a game. We are a defense first team, so Hill will usually not have to be the one to win the game. As long as the defense keeps it close, we always have a chance. I think that any of our QB's could win with this defense having their back.

Just ran across this on ESPN, Clutch players don't end up on this list...

Have you been watching the games so far? Hill has led needed TD drives this year and even *GASP* passed for a TD. I'd say that's clutch. Who knows how many he might have before the years over. He may even go into the crapper. But he is the answer for now and seems to be making the most of it. We all know why you hate on Hill.

I am happy with the results Hill is putting up, it is all about the W. I just think some of you guys are getting carried away about a mediocre player. It is funny how some posters here are so knee jerk with their opinions about our players. Just because I want our QB to play better, make quicker decisions, not throw into double and triple coverage, and learn how to throw a spiral, it doesn't mean I hate the man. So far it hasn't hurt us, but our schedule gets a lot tougher the next couple of months, and we are going to need better play from the o line and Hill. I think Crabtree will help Hills numbers because he runs the bubble screen so well, and that is the kind of pass that Hill can throw. I don't "hate on" Hill, I don't "hate on" anyone, so please don't "hate on" me.

I'm with you, how can anyone hate having Gomer Pyle for your Qb but just because he's a regular guy doesn't make it ok to ignore that he is throwing into double coverage and he's a weak passer it's a fact doesn't mean you can't like the wins , the most frequent remark is " He hasn't lost us any games" yeah I should hope not, we saw enough of that the last year

Interesting that you guys make an emphasis that he makes bad decisions of throwing into coverage. Accurate QBs throw into coverage, and hit their receivers instead of the defensive players. So far is he has thrown one interception in four games, and that was when Delanie Walker tripped on a deep sideline sprint.

No, Shaun Hill must turn every drive into TD's, like Alex Smith did.

That's ridiculous, you sound like a child, not even I expect him to end every drive with a TD , what do you consider reasonable 50% , 33% , 25% I don't know what percentage of drives have ended in a TD let alone a FG but I bet it's not close to any of these numbers

Oh, so being comfortable with the offense, O-line protection, running the ball when its not working, penalties all fall on a QB?? You act like we run the Run-N-Shoot or something.

And when the O and all it's parts has a successful drive we get threads entitled Shaun Hill is Clutch. Hill apparently is only involved when the team scores. Some of you seem to give him all the credit and none of the blame, that's all I'm saying

No kidding, someone is being a little hypocritical.

We all know Hill has weaknesses, and isn't the greatest QB in the NFL by a long shot. But they are 3-1, and one goddamn miracle Brett Farve TD away from being 4-0. So what exactly is there to blame him about? It seems very odd to me after the last several years people looking for someone to blame something on after wins.

One thing for sure is this team now wins as a team. Hill is part of that. He is not just some guy in there doing nothing well while everyone else is winning the game. For sure he is a solid contributer. If you can't see that, your spite has blinded you, or you don't understand what your watching, or you just want to argue for arguing's sake.

Why do you guys bother ? Guys like Memphis, Method, Ceadder, Super5, GB, and 49er9652 (or whatever his codename is) want Hill to fail. They may not admit it, but they'll make any jabs at Hill that they can. Hill used HIS arm to win us a game on the road in a crowded stadium of the NFC CHAMPS, then almost won us a game at Minnesota.........yet, thes people only remember the bad throws he made.

Ironic that they would be so picky on Hill's mistakes, considering that these are the same people that defend Smith's 1 minute worth of good play in 2 games, ignoring the 59 minutes of garbage he put up for the Niners.

Whereas Memphis has seen nothing in Hill that would make him think he is cluth, Im sure he could give you a list attributes he sees in Smith which could make him a match winner.

It's still possible. If we lose to Atlanta, there's a good chance that we suck still. The only teams we've beaten thus far: Arizona, Seattle, and St. Louis.

If we beat Atlanta, then I'd say we're officially done sucking. And no, I don't care if we play Atlanta tough and lose. We have to win the game. We barely lost to Minnesota. That showed us we can compete with anyone, but if we don't find a way to win these games, it doesn't really matter. Our season WILL end in December yet again.

Did you hear that they're changing the name of the clutch now to Shaun?

"Excuse me sir, how much will it cost to fix my Shaun??"

"Umm, you might as well just replace the whole thing and buy a new one. It isn't worth fixing."

Oct 10, 2009 at 5:30 PM

#82

9ermj

Info N/A

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by djfullshred:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 9ermj:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 9ermj:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by djfullshred:

Originally posted by 9ermj:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by BigDaddy:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:He is not costing us games, what more can you ask for at this point in time? Clutch?
I have seen nothing to make me want to have to count on him to have to win a game. We are a defense first team, so Hill will usually not have to be the one to win the game. As long as the defense keeps it close, we always have a chance. I think that any of our QB's could win with this defense having their back.

Just ran across this on ESPN, Clutch players don't end up on this list...

Have you been watching the games so far? Hill has led needed TD drives this year and even *GASP* passed for a TD. I'd say that's clutch. Who knows how many he might have before the years over. He may even go into the crapper. But he is the answer for now and seems to be making the most of it. We all know why you hate on Hill.

I am happy with the results Hill is putting up, it is all about the W. I just think some of you guys are getting carried away about a mediocre player. It is funny how some posters here are so knee jerk with their opinions about our players. Just because I want our QB to play better, make quicker decisions, not throw into double and triple coverage, and learn how to throw a spiral, it doesn't mean I hate the man. So far it hasn't hurt us, but our schedule gets a lot tougher the next couple of months, and we are going to need better play from the o line and Hill. I think Crabtree will help Hills numbers because he runs the bubble screen so well, and that is the kind of pass that Hill can throw. I don't "hate on" Hill, I don't "hate on" anyone, so please don't "hate on" me.

I'm with you, how can anyone hate having Gomer Pyle for your Qb but just because he's a regular guy doesn't make it ok to ignore that he is throwing into double coverage and he's a weak passer it's a fact doesn't mean you can't like the wins , the most frequent remark is " He hasn't lost us any games" yeah I should hope not, we saw enough of that the last year

Interesting that you guys make an emphasis that he makes bad decisions of throwing into coverage. Accurate QBs throw into coverage, and hit their receivers instead of the defensive players. So far is he has thrown one interception in four games, and that was when Delanie Walker tripped on a deep sideline sprint.

No, Shaun Hill must turn every drive into TD's, like Alex Smith did.

That's ridiculous, you sound like a child, not even I expect him to end every drive with a TD , what do you consider reasonable 50% , 33% , 25% I don't know what percentage of drives have ended in a TD let alone a FG but I bet it's not close to any of these numbers

Oh, so being comfortable with the offense, O-line protection, running the ball when its not working, penalties all fall on a QB?? You act like we run the Run-N-Shoot or something.

And when the O and all it's parts has a successful drive we get threads entitled Shaun Hill is Clutch. Hill apparently is only involved when the team scores. Some of you seem to give him all the credit and none of the blame, that's all I'm saying

No kidding, someone is being a little hypocritical.

We all know Hill has weaknesses, and isn't the greatest QB in the NFL by a long shot. But they are 3-1, and one goddamn miracle Brett Farve TD away from being 4-0. So what exactly is there to blame him about? It seems very odd to me after the last several years people looking for someone to blame something on after wins.

One thing for sure is this team now wins as a team. Hill is part of that. He is not just some guy in there doing nothing well while everyone else is winning the game. For sure he is a solid contributer. If you can't see that, your spite has blinded you, or you don't understand what your watching, or you just want to argue for arguing's sake.

Why do you guys bother ? Guys like Memphis, Method, Ceadder, Super5, GB, and 49er9652 (or whatever his codename is) want Hill to fail. They may not admit it, but they'll make any jabs at Hill that they can. Hill used HIS arm to win us a game on the road in a crowded stadium of the NFC CHAMPS, then almost won us a game at Minnesota.........yet, thes people only remember the bad throws he made.

Ironic that they would be so picky on Hill's mistakes, considering that these are the same people that defend Smith's 1 minute worth of good play in 2 games, ignoring the 59 minutes of garbage he put up for the Niners.

Whereas Memphis has seen nothing in Hill that would make him think he is cluth, Im sure he could give you a list attributes he sees in Smith which could make him a match winner.

Pathetic.......

Why do you guys keep bringing up Smith , he's over in SF, it's easy to point out Hill's bad throws , they far outnumber the good ones

Originally posted by Memphis9er:He is not costing us games, what more can you ask for at this point in time? Clutch?
I have seen nothing to make me want to have to count on him to have to win a game. We are a defense first team, so Hill will usually not have to be the one to win the game. As long as the defense keeps it close, we always have a chance. I think that any of our QB's could win with this defense having their back.

Just ran across this on ESPN, Clutch players don't end up on this list...

Have you been watching the games so far? Hill has led needed TD drives this year and even *GASP* passed for a TD. I'd say that's clutch. Who knows how many he might have before the years over. He may even go into the crapper. But he is the answer for now and seems to be making the most of it. We all know why you hate on Hill.

I am happy with the results Hill is putting up, it is all about the W. I just think some of you guys are getting carried away about a mediocre player. It is funny how some posters here are so knee jerk with their opinions about our players. Just because I want our QB to play better, make quicker decisions, not throw into double and triple coverage, and learn how to throw a spiral, it doesn't mean I hate the man. So far it hasn't hurt us, but our schedule gets a lot tougher the next couple of months, and we are going to need better play from the o line and Hill. I think Crabtree will help Hills numbers because he runs the bubble screen so well, and that is the kind of pass that Hill can throw. I don't "hate on" Hill, I don't "hate on" anyone, so please don't "hate on" me.

I'm with you, how can anyone hate having Gomer Pyle for your Qb but just because he's a regular guy doesn't make it ok to ignore that he is throwing into double coverage and he's a weak passer it's a fact doesn't mean you can't like the wins , the most frequent remark is " He hasn't lost us any games" yeah I should hope not, we saw enough of that the last year

Interesting that you guys make an emphasis that he makes bad decisions of throwing into coverage. Accurate QBs throw into coverage, and hit their receivers instead of the defensive players. So far is he has thrown one interception in four games, and that was when Delanie Walker tripped on a deep sideline sprint.

No, Shaun Hill must turn every drive into TD's, like Alex Smith did.

That's ridiculous, you sound like a child, not even I expect him to end every drive with a TD , what do you consider reasonable 50% , 33% , 25% I don't know what percentage of drives have ended in a TD let alone a FG but I bet it's not close to any of these numbers

Oh, so being comfortable with the offense, O-line protection, running the ball when its not working, penalties all fall on a QB?? You act like we run the Run-N-Shoot or something.

And when the O and all it's parts has a successful drive we get threads entitled Shaun Hill is Clutch. Hill apparently is only involved when the team scores. Some of you seem to give him all the credit and none of the blame, that's all I'm saying

No kidding, someone is being a little hypocritical.

We all know Hill has weaknesses, and isn't the greatest QB in the NFL by a long shot. But they are 3-1, and one goddamn miracle Brett Farve TD away from being 4-0. So what exactly is there to blame him about? It seems very odd to me after the last several years people looking for someone to blame something on after wins.

One thing for sure is this team now wins as a team. Hill is part of that. He is not just some guy in there doing nothing well while everyone else is winning the game. For sure he is a solid contributer. If you can't see that, your spite has blinded you, or you don't understand what your watching, or you just want to argue for arguing's sake.

Why do you guys bother ? Guys like Memphis, Method, Ceadder, Super5, GB, and 49er9652 (or whatever his codename is) want Hill to fail. They may not admit it, but they'll make any jabs at Hill that they can. Hill used HIS arm to win us a game on the road in a crowded stadium of the NFC CHAMPS, then almost won us a game at Minnesota.........yet, thes people only remember the bad throws he made.

Ironic that they would be so picky on Hill's mistakes, considering that these are the same people that defend Smith's 1 minute worth of good play in 2 games, ignoring the 59 minutes of garbage he put up for the Niners.

Whereas Memphis has seen nothing in Hill that would make him think he is cluth, Im sure he could give you a list attributes he sees in Smith which could make him a match winner.

Pathetic.......

What is pathetic is your assumptions that you know anything about what I think. If you are going to try to criticize me you really should learn how to spell, or at least use spellchecker. If you think I want Hill to fail, you are just plain ignorant. I want him to play better, which means he would be succeeding...can you wrap your mind around that? I am sorry you are so sensitive about my criticism of Hill when he plays inconsistently, if it really hurts your feelings you should just ignore my posts.

Oct 11, 2009 at 6:41 AM

#85

9ermj

Info N/A

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by djfullshred:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 9ermj:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 9ermj:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by djfullshred:

Originally posted by 9ermj:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by BigDaddy:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:He is not costing us games, what more can you ask for at this point in time? Clutch?
I have seen nothing to make me want to have to count on him to have to win a game. We are a defense first team, so Hill will usually not have to be the one to win the game. As long as the defense keeps it close, we always have a chance. I think that any of our QB's could win with this defense having their back.

Just ran across this on ESPN, Clutch players don't end up on this list...

Have you been watching the games so far? Hill has led needed TD drives this year and even *GASP* passed for a TD. I'd say that's clutch. Who knows how many he might have before the years over. He may even go into the crapper. But he is the answer for now and seems to be making the most of it. We all know why you hate on Hill.

I am happy with the results Hill is putting up, it is all about the W. I just think some of you guys are getting carried away about a mediocre player. It is funny how some posters here are so knee jerk with their opinions about our players. Just because I want our QB to play better, make quicker decisions, not throw into double and triple coverage, and learn how to throw a spiral, it doesn't mean I hate the man. So far it hasn't hurt us, but our schedule gets a lot tougher the next couple of months, and we are going to need better play from the o line and Hill. I think Crabtree will help Hills numbers because he runs the bubble screen so well, and that is the kind of pass that Hill can throw. I don't "hate on" Hill, I don't "hate on" anyone, so please don't "hate on" me.

I'm with you, how can anyone hate having Gomer Pyle for your Qb but just because he's a regular guy doesn't make it ok to ignore that he is throwing into double coverage and he's a weak passer it's a fact doesn't mean you can't like the wins , the most frequent remark is " He hasn't lost us any games" yeah I should hope not, we saw enough of that the last year

Interesting that you guys make an emphasis that he makes bad decisions of throwing into coverage. Accurate QBs throw into coverage, and hit their receivers instead of the defensive players. So far is he has thrown one interception in four games, and that was when Delanie Walker tripped on a deep sideline sprint.

No, Shaun Hill must turn every drive into TD's, like Alex Smith did.

That's ridiculous, you sound like a child, not even I expect him to end every drive with a TD , what do you consider reasonable 50% , 33% , 25% I don't know what percentage of drives have ended in a TD let alone a FG but I bet it's not close to any of these numbers

Oh, so being comfortable with the offense, O-line protection, running the ball when its not working, penalties all fall on a QB?? You act like we run the Run-N-Shoot or something.

And when the O and all it's parts has a successful drive we get threads entitled Shaun Hill is Clutch. Hill apparently is only involved when the team scores. Some of you seem to give him all the credit and none of the blame, that's all I'm saying

No kidding, someone is being a little hypocritical.

We all know Hill has weaknesses, and isn't the greatest QB in the NFL by a long shot. But they are 3-1, and one goddamn miracle Brett Farve TD away from being 4-0. So what exactly is there to blame him about? It seems very odd to me after the last several years people looking for someone to blame something on after wins.

One thing for sure is this team now wins as a team. Hill is part of that. He is not just some guy in there doing nothing well while everyone else is winning the game. For sure he is a solid contributer. If you can't see that, your spite has blinded you, or you don't understand what your watching, or you just want to argue for arguing's sake.

Why do you guys bother ? Guys like Memphis, Method, Ceadder, Super5, GB, and 49er9652 (or whatever his codename is) want Hill to fail. They may not admit it, but they'll make any jabs at Hill that they can. Hill used HIS arm to win us a game on the road in a crowded stadium of the NFC CHAMPS, then almost won us a game at Minnesota.........yet, thes people only remember the bad throws he made.

Ironic that they would be so picky on Hill's mistakes, considering that these are the same people that defend Smith's 1 minute worth of good play in 2 games, ignoring the 59 minutes of garbage he put up for the Niners.

Whereas Memphis has seen nothing in Hill that would make him think he is cluth, Im sure he could give you a list attributes he sees in Smith which could make him a match winner.

Pathetic.......

What is pathetic is your assumptions that you know anything about what I think. If you are going to try to criticize me you really should learn how to spell, or at least use spellchecker. If you think I want Hill to fail, you are just plain ignorant. I want him to play better, which means he would be succeeding...can you wrap your mind around that? I am sorry you are so sensitive about my criticism of Hill when he plays inconsistently, if it really hurts your feelings you should just ignore my posts.

That's exactly right , No one wants Hill to fail or at least they shouldn't , but to blindly accept and praise a guy who is good in parts of the game and crap the rest of the time , makes no sense, I want the team to be as good as it can be and if Hill was as good as some profess , don't you think the coaching staff would "Turn him loose" I think they know quite a bit more about Hill's limitations than these wanna be GM's who have decided Hill is the next Kurt Warner and crow about how they knew it all along , they may be right or they may have to eat crow but it won't because they "know" something. This board is about opinion's everyone's got one, you know the rest of the line.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:He is not costing us games, what more can you ask for at this point in time? Clutch?
I have seen nothing to make me want to have to count on him to have to win a game. We are a defense first team, so Hill will usually not have to be the one to win the game. As long as the defense keeps it close, we always have a chance. I think that any of our QB's could win with this defense having their back.

Just ran across this on ESPN, Clutch players don't end up on this list...

Have you been watching the games so far? Hill has led needed TD drives this year and even *GASP* passed for a TD. I'd say that's clutch. Who knows how many he might have before the years over. He may even go into the crapper. But he is the answer for now and seems to be making the most of it. We all know why you hate on Hill.

I am happy with the results Hill is putting up, it is all about the W. I just think some of you guys are getting carried away about a mediocre player. It is funny how some posters here are so knee jerk with their opinions about our players. Just because I want our QB to play better, make quicker decisions, not throw into double and triple coverage, and learn how to throw a spiral, it doesn't mean I hate the man. So far it hasn't hurt us, but our schedule gets a lot tougher the next couple of months, and we are going to need better play from the o line and Hill. I think Crabtree will help Hills numbers because he runs the bubble screen so well, and that is the kind of pass that Hill can throw. I don't "hate on" Hill, I don't "hate on" anyone, so please don't "hate on" me.

I'm with you, how can anyone hate having Gomer Pyle for your Qb but just because he's a regular guy doesn't make it ok to ignore that he is throwing into double coverage and he's a weak passer it's a fact doesn't mean you can't like the wins , the most frequent remark is " He hasn't lost us any games" yeah I should hope not, we saw enough of that the last year

Interesting that you guys make an emphasis that he makes bad decisions of throwing into coverage. Accurate QBs throw into coverage, and hit their receivers instead of the defensive players. So far is he has thrown one interception in four games, and that was when Delanie Walker tripped on a deep sideline sprint.

No, Shaun Hill must turn every drive into TD's, like Alex Smith did.

That's ridiculous, you sound like a child, not even I expect him to end every drive with a TD , what do you consider reasonable 50% , 33% , 25% I don't know what percentage of drives have ended in a TD let alone a FG but I bet it's not close to any of these numbers

Oh, so being comfortable with the offense, O-line protection, running the ball when its not working, penalties all fall on a QB?? You act like we run the Run-N-Shoot or something.

And when the O and all it's parts has a successful drive we get threads entitled Shaun Hill is Clutch. Hill apparently is only involved when the team scores. Some of you seem to give him all the credit and none of the blame, that's all I'm saying

No kidding, someone is being a little hypocritical.

We all know Hill has weaknesses, and isn't the greatest QB in the NFL by a long shot. But they are 3-1, and one goddamn miracle Brett Farve TD away from being 4-0. So what exactly is there to blame him about? It seems very odd to me after the last several years people looking for someone to blame something on after wins.

One thing for sure is this team now wins as a team. Hill is part of that. He is not just some guy in there doing nothing well while everyone else is winning the game. For sure he is a solid contributer. If you can't see that, your spite has blinded you, or you don't understand what your watching, or you just want to argue for arguing's sake.

Why do you guys bother ? Guys like Memphis, Method, Ceadder, Super5, GB, and 49er9652 (or whatever his codename is) want Hill to fail. They may not admit it, but they'll make any jabs at Hill that they can. Hill used HIS arm to win us a game on the road in a crowded stadium of the NFC CHAMPS, then almost won us a game at Minnesota.........yet, thes people only remember the bad throws he made.

Ironic that they would be so picky on Hill's mistakes, considering that these are the same people that defend Smith's 1 minute worth of good play in 2 games, ignoring the 59 minutes of garbage he put up for the Niners.

Whereas Memphis has seen nothing in Hill that would make him think he is cluth, Im sure he could give you a list attributes he sees in Smith which could make him a match winner.

Pathetic.......

What is pathetic is your assumptions that you know anything about what I think. If you are going to try to criticize me you really should learn how to spell, or at least use spellchecker. If you think I want Hill to fail, you are just plain ignorant. I want him to play better, which means he would be succeeding...can you wrap your mind around that? I am sorry you are so sensitive about my criticism of Hill when he plays inconsistently, if it really hurts your feelings you should just ignore my posts.

That's exactly right , No one wants Hill to fail or at least they shouldn't , but to blindly accept and praise a guy who is good in parts of the game and crap the rest of the time , makes no sense, I want the team to be as good as it can be and if Hill was as good as some profess , don't you think the coaching staff would "Turn him loose" I think they know quite a bit more about Hill's limitations than these wanna be GM's who have decided Hill is the next Kurt Warner and crow about how they knew it all along , they may be right or they may have to eat crow but it won't because they "know" something. This board is about opinion's everyone's got one, you know the rest of the line.

I think it goes: "Opinions are like A**holes, everybody has one and they all stink."

Originally posted by Memphis9er:He is not costing us games, what more can you ask for at this point in time? Clutch?
I have seen nothing to make me want to have to count on him to have to win a game. We are a defense first team, so Hill will usually not have to be the one to win the game. As long as the defense keeps it close, we always have a chance. I think that any of our QB's could win with this defense having their back.

Just ran across this on ESPN, Clutch players don't end up on this list...

Have you been watching the games so far? Hill has led needed TD drives this year and even *GASP* passed for a TD. I'd say that's clutch. Who knows how many he might have before the years over. He may even go into the crapper. But he is the answer for now and seems to be making the most of it. We all know why you hate on Hill.

I am happy with the results Hill is putting up, it is all about the W. I just think some of you guys are getting carried away about a mediocre player. It is funny how some posters here are so knee jerk with their opinions about our players. Just because I want our QB to play better, make quicker decisions, not throw into double and triple coverage, and learn how to throw a spiral, it doesn't mean I hate the man. So far it hasn't hurt us, but our schedule gets a lot tougher the next couple of months, and we are going to need better play from the o line and Hill. I think Crabtree will help Hills numbers because he runs the bubble screen so well, and that is the kind of pass that Hill can throw. I don't "hate on" Hill, I don't "hate on" anyone, so please don't "hate on" me.

I'm with you, how can anyone hate having Gomer Pyle for your Qb but just because he's a regular guy doesn't make it ok to ignore that he is throwing into double coverage and he's a weak passer it's a fact doesn't mean you can't like the wins , the most frequent remark is " He hasn't lost us any games" yeah I should hope not, we saw enough of that the last year

Interesting that you guys make an emphasis that he makes bad decisions of throwing into coverage. Accurate QBs throw into coverage, and hit their receivers instead of the defensive players. So far is he has thrown one interception in four games, and that was when Delanie Walker tripped on a deep sideline sprint.

No, Shaun Hill must turn every drive into TD's, like Alex Smith did.

That's ridiculous, you sound like a child, not even I expect him to end every drive with a TD , what do you consider reasonable 50% , 33% , 25% I don't know what percentage of drives have ended in a TD let alone a FG but I bet it's not close to any of these numbers

Oh, so being comfortable with the offense, O-line protection, running the ball when its not working, penalties all fall on a QB?? You act like we run the Run-N-Shoot or something.

And when the O and all it's parts has a successful drive we get threads entitled Shaun Hill is Clutch. Hill apparently is only involved when the team scores. Some of you seem to give him all the credit and none of the blame, that's all I'm saying

No kidding, someone is being a little hypocritical.

We all know Hill has weaknesses, and isn't the greatest QB in the NFL by a long shot. But they are 3-1, and one goddamn miracle Brett Farve TD away from being 4-0. So what exactly is there to blame him about? It seems very odd to me after the last several years people looking for someone to blame something on after wins.

One thing for sure is this team now wins as a team. Hill is part of that. He is not just some guy in there doing nothing well while everyone else is winning the game. For sure he is a solid contributer. If you can't see that, your spite has blinded you, or you don't understand what your watching, or you just want to argue for arguing's sake.

Why do you guys bother ? Guys like Memphis, Method, Ceadder, Super5, GB, and 49er9652 (or whatever his codename is) want Hill to fail. They may not admit it, but they'll make any jabs at Hill that they can. Hill used HIS arm to win us a game on the road in a crowded stadium of the NFC CHAMPS, then almost won us a game at Minnesota.........yet, thes people only remember the bad throws he made.

Ironic that they would be so picky on Hill's mistakes, considering that these are the same people that defend Smith's 1 minute worth of good play in 2 games, ignoring the 59 minutes of garbage he put up for the Niners.

Whereas Memphis has seen nothing in Hill that would make him think he is cluth, Im sure he could give you a list attributes he sees in Smith which could make him a match winner.

Pathetic.......

What is pathetic is your assumptions that you know anything about what I think. If you are going to try to criticize me you really should learn how to spell, or at least use spellchecker. If you think I want Hill to fail, you are just plain ignorant. I want him to play better, which means he would be succeeding...can you wrap your mind around that? I am sorry you are so sensitive about my criticism of Hill when he plays inconsistently, if it really hurts your feelings you should just ignore my posts.

Well sir, your posts lack consistency. I dont remember you making similar posts regarding Alex Smith when he stunk it up during games. You were one of his biggest cheerleaders, excusing every fflaw, misread, misthrow, etc. he made. Im sure at that time you wanted him to play "better" as well, but I didnt see any posts (from you) criticizing his play.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:He is not costing us games, what more can you ask for at this point in time? Clutch?
I have seen nothing to make me want to have to count on him to have to win a game. We are a defense first team, so Hill will usually not have to be the one to win the game. As long as the defense keeps it close, we always have a chance. I think that any of our QB's could win with this defense having their back.

Just ran across this on ESPN, Clutch players don't end up on this list...

Have you been watching the games so far? Hill has led needed TD drives this year and even *GASP* passed for a TD. I'd say that's clutch. Who knows how many he might have before the years over. He may even go into the crapper. But he is the answer for now and seems to be making the most of it. We all know why you hate on Hill.

I am happy with the results Hill is putting up, it is all about the W. I just think some of you guys are getting carried away about a mediocre player. It is funny how some posters here are so knee jerk with their opinions about our players. Just because I want our QB to play better, make quicker decisions, not throw into double and triple coverage, and learn how to throw a spiral, it doesn't mean I hate the man. So far it hasn't hurt us, but our schedule gets a lot tougher the next couple of months, and we are going to need better play from the o line and Hill. I think Crabtree will help Hills numbers because he runs the bubble screen so well, and that is the kind of pass that Hill can throw. I don't "hate on" Hill, I don't "hate on" anyone, so please don't "hate on" me.

I'm with you, how can anyone hate having Gomer Pyle for your Qb but just because he's a regular guy doesn't make it ok to ignore that he is throwing into double coverage and he's a weak passer it's a fact doesn't mean you can't like the wins , the most frequent remark is " He hasn't lost us any games" yeah I should hope not, we saw enough of that the last year

Interesting that you guys make an emphasis that he makes bad decisions of throwing into coverage. Accurate QBs throw into coverage, and hit their receivers instead of the defensive players. So far is he has thrown one interception in four games, and that was when Delanie Walker tripped on a deep sideline sprint.

No, Shaun Hill must turn every drive into TD's, like Alex Smith did.

That's ridiculous, you sound like a child, not even I expect him to end every drive with a TD , what do you consider reasonable 50% , 33% , 25% I don't know what percentage of drives have ended in a TD let alone a FG but I bet it's not close to any of these numbers

Oh, so being comfortable with the offense, O-line protection, running the ball when its not working, penalties all fall on a QB?? You act like we run the Run-N-Shoot or something.

And when the O and all it's parts has a successful drive we get threads entitled Shaun Hill is Clutch. Hill apparently is only involved when the team scores. Some of you seem to give him all the credit and none of the blame, that's all I'm saying

No kidding, someone is being a little hypocritical.

We all know Hill has weaknesses, and isn't the greatest QB in the NFL by a long shot. But they are 3-1, and one goddamn miracle Brett Farve TD away from being 4-0. So what exactly is there to blame him about? It seems very odd to me after the last several years people looking for someone to blame something on after wins.

One thing for sure is this team now wins as a team. Hill is part of that. He is not just some guy in there doing nothing well while everyone else is winning the game. For sure he is a solid contributer. If you can't see that, your spite has blinded you, or you don't understand what your watching, or you just want to argue for arguing's sake.

Why do you guys bother ? Guys like Memphis, Method, Ceadder, Super5, GB, and 49er9652 (or whatever his codename is) want Hill to fail. They may not admit it, but they'll make any jabs at Hill that they can. Hill used HIS arm to win us a game on the road in a crowded stadium of the NFC CHAMPS, then almost won us a game at Minnesota.........yet, thes people only remember the bad throws he made.

Ironic that they would be so picky on Hill's mistakes, considering that these are the same people that defend Smith's 1 minute worth of good play in 2 games, ignoring the 59 minutes of garbage he put up for the Niners.

Whereas Memphis has seen nothing in Hill that would make him think he is cluth, Im sure he could give you a list attributes he sees in Smith which could make him a match winner.

Pathetic.......

What is pathetic is your assumptions that you know anything about what I think. If you are going to try to criticize me you really should learn how to spell, or at least use spellchecker. If you think I want Hill to fail, you are just plain ignorant. I want him to play better, which means he would be succeeding...can you wrap your mind around that? I am sorry you are so sensitive about my criticism of Hill when he plays inconsistently, if it really hurts your feelings you should just ignore my posts.

Well sir, your posts lack consistency. I dont remember you making similar posts regarding Alex Smith when he stunk it up during games. You were one of his biggest cheerleaders, excusing every fflaw, misread, misthrow, etc. he made. Im sure at that time you wanted him to play "better" as well, but I didnt see any posts (from you) criticizing his play.

Gee, I wonder why ?

Who said anything about Smith? I think you are the one that brought it up. All I said is that Hill is nowhere near clutch and he is proving me right as we speak. Am I happy about it, hell no I am not. But, unlike you, I do not like it when players on my team fail.

This site is neither endorsed, nor sponsored by, nor affiliated with San Francisco 49ers or NFL Properties LLC. 49ers is a registered trademark of the San Francisco 49ers LLC. All teams and players mentioned are registered trademarks of the NFL and its respective teams. The use of any team names, words, trademarks, logos or photos have been used for descriptive purposes only. The content and information from other sites is the property of their respective owners. Player and team photos used with permission from USA TODAY Sports Images.