Five years ago, the thought that a Democratic Governor would sign a law restricting abortions in the event that the Supreme Court overturns the current federal law permitting it would have struck one as highly improbable. And yet, the Governor of Louisiana has done just such a thing.

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Quote:The ban would apply to all abortions, even in cases of rape or incest, except when the mother's life is threatened. It is similar to a South Dakota law that has become a battleground in the abortion debate.

Even in the case of rape of incest! This is, as they say, hard core, it seems to me. What is your reaction to the Governor's actions?

Disappointment. When you consider that the bill isn't even effective, plus the fact that Louisiana still has a boatload of issues left over from Katrina (of which I doubt abortion is one), why the hell is Blanco wasting her time with this? It really makes no sense at all.

I would suspect that Gov. Blanco is Roman Catholic as are many citizens and politicans of Louisiana. Yet, this is a state with a still horrible situation of racism and wild 'un-Christian' beheavors as part of it's culture. Many Catholics and Christians feel that they may be denied entry into Heaven unless they make Abortion = murder, in ALL cases including incest, rape, save life of the mother. Many Roman Catholic politicans are under pressure, including excomunication from the church, believe they are putting their soles at risk, from the Pope on down to do all in their power to ban all abortions, ban gay marriage and so on. Besides, banning abortions is cheap theater rather than doing something substantual, like dealing with the post-Katrina problems that no politican really wants to deal with as may include raising taxes, getting people angry and vote them out of office if they do things that hurt some some citizens.

Here it is. Blanco is trying to appeal to the conservative, yes conservative, groups in Northern Louisiana that got her elected the first time because her opponent, eventhough he was a conservative Republican, was a person of color (Bobby Jindal, an Indian-American).

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 6):Oh that's just brilliant. Even in cases of rape and incest? So if a sixteen year old gets raped by her father and gets pregnant, what the hell is she supposed to do?

Jail the father, make him do hard labor and send his earnings to her daughter, give her lots of support and optimal health care, and then let her give the baby up for adoption to a couple who will lovingly take care of the child.

Quoting Duke (Reply 10):Jail the father, make him do hard labor and send his earnings to her daughter, give her lots of support and optimal health care, and then let her give the baby up for adoption to a couple who will lovingly take care of the child.

Ok, but who are we to force a minor to give birth? Why should the state have the role of forcing her to have an unwanted baby? Why should government factors force a minor to spend nine months of her life with a pregnancy due to a rape? Wouldn't it be more humane to abort the fetus early?

Quoting Duke (Reply 10):Jail the father, make him do hard labor and send his earnings to her daughter, give her lots of support and optimal health care, and then let her give the baby up for adoption to a couple who will lovingly take care of the child.

Sure, and let her body go through all the irreversible change that happens with child birth, put her through the mental anguish of carrying the product of her violation for the better part of a year, put her at risk for all the complications that happen during the pregnancy and expect her to be supported by the $0.30 an hour Mr. Hard Labor Rapist POS will be making? I don't think so. Take your percieved morality out of government.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 12):Quoting Duke (Reply 10):
Jail the father, make him do hard labor and send his earnings to her daughter, give her lots of support and optimal health care, and then let her give the baby up for adoption to a couple who will lovingly take care of the child.

Sure, and let her body go through all the irreversible change that happens with child birth, put her through the mental anguish of carrying the product of her violation for the better part of a year, put her at risk for all the complications that happen during the pregnancy and expect her to be supported by the $0.30 an hour Mr. Hard Labor Rapist POS will be making? I don't think so. Take your percieved morality out of government.

Agree with your point 100%!

"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." - Bahá'u'lláh

Hooray for your side? Is that what this is about, just a cheering match? Whoever can be the loudest?

Of course it is, haven't you been watching Fox lately? Besides, this isn't a victory for "their side" it is an affront to the Constitution of the United States in that it directly defies the mandate of the Supreme Court. As far as I am concerned, all state lawmakers who vote for or sign this kind of law, Democrat or Republican, should be removed from office for violating their oath to uphold that very doccument.

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 15):Are you so in support of one life that you're willing to let the law be part of ruining another?

Not only that, but the "life" he is supporting is less alive than the cockroach he sprayed with Raid last week

Quoting N1120A (Reply 9):Here it is. Blanco is trying to appeal to the conservative, yes conservative, groups in Northern Louisiana that got her elected the first time because her opponent, eventhough he was a conservative Republican, was a person of color (Bobby Jindal, an Indian-American).

There it is. Jindal was the most qualified candidate and he should have won the election except for the most conservative base. Stupid nose cutting to spite faces.

Quoting PSA53 (Reply 18):So,are you giving me a choice of whose life to ruin?

Well you're making the assumption that a fetus is a life with equal rights as you and me. I am not basing my argument on that assumption.

I say that if a teenager gets raped and gets pregnant that under this law she would recieve further suffering. Are you going to tell me its a walk in the park to have a fetus growing inside you for nine months? Or the same thing but you are only a sixteen year old female girl?

Now, lets say even if I do use what you think. IF you do have to choose between aborting the baby and not, or as you put it, ruining one life or the other, wouldn't you choose aborting the fetus? Why should a sixteen year old suffer for the full length of a pregnancy just to end up giving up the baby for adoption? If a rape or incest victim has already suffered because of the criminal actions of another, why should state sponsored law add more suffering onto her life when there are actions that can ease it?

Blanco is desperately trying to politically survive in a post-Katrina world. Yes, the Feds, the White House and FEMA were morons in how they handled Katrina, but so was she. She's essentially a lame duck right now, trying to find a new constituency given that much of New Orleans that votes Dem is either wiped out or anywhere else but New Orleans.

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 19):Well you're making the assumption that a fetus is a life with equal rights as you and me. I am not basing my argument on that assumption.

But I am making that the argument/discussion point in protection, in which
many have tossed that point out.Where does life begin has always been a sticking point on this issue.

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 19):I say that if a teenager gets raped and gets pregnant that under this law she would receiver further suffering.

I agree. It would be horrible for the teenager and parent alike.No doubt about it.But I believe adoption and a compensation program is a better solution in
the long term.Regardless of the direction taken,the wounds open and pain will never go away from this crime.

So let me get this straight. Even after admitting that the law, which doesn't have an exception for rape and incest, is harmful to those that I've described in the hypothetical situation, you would still support it? Is a fetus worth more than the life of a teennage mother? More than the victim of rape or incest?

Why should a rape or incest victim have to go through with a pregnancy because you believe adoption is a good solution? Why shouldn't we give victims of such crimes the decency to make the decision on their own?

And you speak of a compensation program, compensation from who? The person who raped and traumatized her? How will he compensate her after she's given up the child for adoption? How will he support her child because he's in jail not making an honest living?

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25 Tom in NO
: One of her smarter moves, if you ask me.....considering we approved a similar ban in a statewide vote not too long ago. Tom at MSY

26 Tbar220
: Do you support this law even if it doesn't have an exception for victims of rape and incest?