The same rights as humans, you say? Then you won’t have any problem when the Earth decides it wants an abortion…

Does anyone else see a conflict here? You know, that whole separation of church and state BS that the Gaia worshiping Eco-Commies like to get their knickers all twisted up over when it comes to Christians?

Of course, those same Gaia worshipers are always quick to use the Bible against Christians in order to shut down any resistance they might encounter while pushing their communist agenda. Here’s one that a local (Missouri) “Tele-social-vangelist,” Larry Rice, likes to throw out every once in a while:

“And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.” – Rev. 11:18

Now, normally I just ignore Tele-social-vangelists, however, Larry Rice owns two HDTV stations (channels 24-1 and 24-2) in St. Louis and broadcasts his eco-message almost “twenty-four dash-seven” on channel 24-2.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for good stewardship of the Earth (after all, the Earth is God’s creation and is His gift to us), but at what point does it stop being just stewardship and starts becoming Gaia worshiping?:

UNITED NATIONS — Bolivia will this month table a draft United Nations treaty giving “Mother Earth” the same rights as humans — having just passed a domestic law that does the same for bugs, trees and all other natural things in the South American country.

The bid aims to have the UN recognize the Earth as a living entity that humans have sought to “dominate and exploit” — to the point that the “well-being and existence of many beings” is now threatened.

The wording may yet evolve, but the general structure is meant to mirror Bolivia’s Law of the Rights of Mother Earth, which Bolivian President Evo Morales enacted in January.

That document speaks of the country’s natural resources as “blessings,” and grants the Earth a series of specific rights that include rights to life, water and clean air; the right to repair livelihoods affected by human activities; and the right to be free from pollution.

Did you catch that? —“Blessings…” Sounds like that old time religion to me! Break out the drum circle and send in the pan flutes!

It also establishes a Ministry of Mother Earth, and provides the planet with an ombudsman whose job is to hear nature’s complaints as voiced by activist and other groups, including the state.

“If you want to have balance, and you think that the only (entities) who have rights are humans or companies, then how can you reach balance?” Pablo Salon, Bolivia’s ambassador to the UN, told Postmedia News. “But if you recognize that nature too has rights, and (if you provide) legal forms to protect and preserve those rights, then you can achieve balance.”

The application of the law appears destined to pose new challenges for companies operating in the country, which is rich in natural resources, including natural gas and lithium, but remains one of the poorest in Latin America.

But while Salon said his country just seeks to achieve “harmony” with nature, he signalled that mining and other companies may come under greater scrutiny.

“We’re not saying, for example, you cannot eat meat because you know you are going to go against the rights of a cow,” he said. “But when human activity develops at a certain scale that you (cause to) disappear a species, then you are really altering the vital cycles of nature or of Mother Earth. Of course, you need a mine to extract iron or zinc, but there are limits.”

Bolivia is a country with a large indigenous population, whose traditional belief systems took on greater resonance following the election of Morales, Latin America’s first indigenous president.

In a 2008 pamphlet his entourage distributed at the UN as he attended a summit there, 10 “commandments” are set out as Bolivia’s plan to “save the planet” — beginning with the need “to end capitalism.”

It also says that “Mother Earth has the right to exist, to persist and to continue the vital cycles, structures, functions and processes that sustain all human beings.”

In indigenous Andean culture, the Earth deity known as Pachamama is the centre of all life, and humans are considered equal to all other entities.

The UN debate begins two days before the UN’s recognition April 22 of the second International Mother Earth Day — another Morales-led initiative.

Canadian activist Maude Barlow is among global environmentalists backing the drive with a book the group will launch in New York during the UN debate: Nature Has Rights.

“It’s going to have huge resonance around the world,” Barlow said of the campaign. “It’s going to start first with these southern countries trying to protect their land and their people from exploitation, but I think it will be grabbed onto by communities in our countries, for example, fighting the tarsands in Alberta.”

Ecuador, which also has a large indigenous population, has enshrined similar aims in its Constitution — but the Bolivian law is said to be “stronger.”

Ecuador is among countries that have already been supportive of the Bolivian initiative, along with Nicaragua, Venezuela, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, and Antigua and Barbuda.

To see what I have to tolerate every year in an Agrarian area of the United States, go to You Tube and type into the Search: Insane Gaia Worshipers
They trod into the National Forests every year and then destroy anything they can like: grazing allotment lot line fencing; farming equipment; logging equipment; mining equipment. The thing is, is that the Environmentalists which is one of the hugest of Washington Lobby’s, is that they have desolated these Agrarian regions of the US into massive poverty.
It is all part of their Globalist Elite Agenda 21-Wildlands Project plan.
They want it returned to Pre-Columbus times, at minimum.

Amazing, Bolivia, a country whose number one contribution to the world is narcotics and a country that in many ways resembles mid to late 19th century America. They are basically the North Korea of the western hemisphere. The first thing we need to do is stop trading with these people. We need to deny them the goods and innovations they require. The reason the eco nuts are going to the UN is Americans, for one, have recognized them for what they are and are no longer contributing to their charities or causes.

The scary thing is that with this in place then any means is justified by the end of making “mom feel better”.

Some environuts say that the “proper” sustainable human population should be no more than 500 million. So genocide would be perfectly reasonable, from this perspective. I expect the other 6.5 billion folks might want to have a say in this particular scenario. Of course, there are the REAL greenie-nutcases that claim that humans are a virus that should be eliminated all together. Boy, I’d hate to be the ombudsman required to sort that out!

As usual for most hypocrites the entire ‘Green’ movement with all of its various factions has more to do about control then the so-called ‘mission’ of ‘saving’ the planet and all of it’s resources. Which IMHO is why the lunatic left has such a love affair with the so-called ‘Green’ movement. Since the demise of Soviet Communism this new ‘Environmental Communism’ has grown by leaps and bounds. After all who could be against ‘saving the environment’, climate change, or global warming? Myself I’m getting quite sick of this new breed of ‘Envirofascists’.

Yes Big Frank, you are absolutely correct.
The brain child of this ‘Environmental Communism’, which will make Stalin’s Communism look pathetic, is MAURICE STRONG.
Maurice Strong and Edsel Rothschild wanted to create a One World Environmental Bank together under the United Nations umbrella.
Maurice Strong has been run out of the US and many other places around the world and now resides in China. He is heavily guarded by the Chinese Military.
Maurice Strong used to own a massive amount of property in Colorado. He had is filled up with every obscure religious group imaginable except he banned anyone that would come the slightest big close to ‘Christianity’.

Anything to do with the UN scares the heck out of me. IMHO the UN is a propaganda pulpit for dictators and despots,most of whom never pay their asessments these clowns live the high life in NYC while pretending to represent their countries,negotiate for peace, and humanitarian aid.

As crazy as the left seems to be, ever wonder how many trees would be left in America if it weren’t for their crazy efforts to stop logging? Or how about water and water quality? How about air quality? We have soiled our nests folks and in case anyone hasn’t noticed, natural disasters are becoming worse. What legacy can we proudly leave for our children after we have raped the planet so bad it cannot sustain life. For those of us who are Christains

That is the biggest bunch of bologna I have heard in a long time Big Chief it was not the left that started conservation as a group. The Boy Scouts were way ahead of them in that arena. The left are communists and are known environment wreckers. Trees grow back Chief. Natural disasters are getting worse? Or is it that there are more people living in areas prone to natural disasters. Or perhaps you never heard about them before the age of TV the internet etc etc. Spare us the bologna that the left are the environmentalists the left actually does more harm than the do good to the environment, they like to pick winners and losers in nature, they like to play God. You want to see what the left can do to the environment just come to Ca sometime many of our areas resemble a third world crap hole, the left supports the people that turn places into crap holes. And don’t get me started on what the left has dope to the ocean water out here, I don’t even go in the water anymore, progress! Leftists are similar to muslims, you both claim to to do or know stuff that others don’t. Get5 with the program before you enable these people to screw up the entire planet. Oh and school kids today, they don’t know shit about water conservation and stuff like that, leftist schools and all that. Leave the environment alone Chief the environment cannot take leftist assistance. During the 60s when the scouts were busy being conservationists the left were hippying it up polluting the environment, that’s right, hippies were not only dirty in body but in environment too. It sounds like you really care about the environment and if you do you would do well to get the facts about the environment not listen to communist propaganda, Don’t you think the environment deserves that Chief?

This entire Utopian (think Globalist Elites ONLY) “Mother Earth” Ideal is pretty much from the 90’s EARTH SUMMIT in Rio, Brazil. At that time an “Agreement” was signed by the UN Members to implement in a very BIG and more rapid way, the UN AGENDA 21; Global Biodiversity Assessment Programme; Our Global Neighborhood; Man And The BioSphere Programme. Along with a plethora of massive Executive Orders (US) to profit the Global Elites, ONLY.
The Georgia Guidestones are NOT the only place where the total Global Population is to become a LIMIT of no more than the 500 million, which are the to become the ‘servant/slave’ class to the Global Elites.
There is REALLY Published books that I possess, and Henry Lamb on You Tube that runs a website called: sovereigntyinternational holds up in his You Tube Video called: Agenda 21 Your Dead
There’s so many videos that explain how “protected areas” “buffer zones” “military areas” will become permanently “No Human Use Zones”. That means “NO HUMANS” allowed.
The infamous Map of Agenda 21 is so easy to find on any Search Engine under Images, and was developed by Dr. Reed Noss and Dave Forman of Earth First.
On Notable Quotetables the Globalist Elites have made so many Quotes on how they would enjoy the “human depopulation agenda”.
This Agenda 21, has been going on for quite a long time now and you can actually find where the “Trained Facilitators” are for your own town, city, hamlet, burg, county, or wherever you live.
They attend UN Accredited Schools to learn “techniques” to make anyone not in the “communitarian” mindset look like an troublemaker.
The very first time I found out about the “World Heritage Sight” and Agenda 21 was from a You Tube Video called, “Agenda 21 for Dummies”.
From there, I’ve introduced it’s anti-human and Delusional & Illusion of a lovely, lovely, jolly, jolly, happy, green world for all…Which it is NOT!

Bolivian child mortality rate, not as bad as twenty years ago. Guardian.co.uk “Twice as many newborn babies survive as did 20 years ago, but more still die here than in almost any country outside sub-Saharan Africa”
Hey, they’re makin progress, progressively.

Oh Leatherneck, you are spot on!
The Lucis Trust was actually created by Alice Bailey a Theosophist. The first name of the Lusic Trust was Alice Bailey’s choice of The Lucifer Trust.
The address of the United Nations building, where the land was donated by Rockefeller, was 666.
So, because the UN wanted to sweep the Lucifer Trust name of their Publishing to Lucis Trust and draw attention away from that plus their physical address of the UN Building away from 666, they changed it.
I found all this documented information at a website called: forbiddenknowledge.
Sad part for the underlings of the love Mama Earth movement is that they will also be ‘banned’ from even stepping anywhere near or around any of the “protected areas”. The “buffer zones” will be so highly regulated that nobody will even want to live near them. Once an area has been Mandated, as has the Agenda 21/Biodiversity/Man And The Biosphere Map shows as “protected area” RED or “buffer zone” Orange, or “military” Grey, then you will NOT be going in there.
That’s when people will become a part of the “Resettlement” part.
A book of suggestion to everyone:
“Civil War II: The Coming Breakup of America”
By: Thomas Chittam

Leatherneck, a great place to find a very complete account of the “Agenda 21” would be to type this into any Search Engine—-> green-agenda
How shall they take us out of these areas where we live now and not within a metro-urban area?
I’ll tell you this: Look at the statue outside the United Nations building in the United States…..
What is is? A knotted Handgun barrel!
They (the UN along with it’s Gaia & Lucifer lovin’ Global Elites) shall try to squash the Gun Lobby and manipulate the Supreme Court Justices into a Nationwide Gun Ban.
Remember this, these Globalist Elites & Delusional Gaia Worshippers really THINK, no believe they will all have a really easy time if they can only force the weapons out of the hands of America.
I found a map also on a search engine of ‘Wildland Corridors’. This is how they will cut off the rural and suburban areas roads. By making these natural “protected” paths across rural roads, state highways and federal highways.
There is a “Screen Shot of: Civilian Internment/Resettlement Camps” on You Tube where the “inholders” that’s those of us who refuse to leave a “protected” or “buffer zone” area to be taken to. They were running ad’s for this ‘Civilian Internment/Resettlement Camp’ job on the National Guard website, Army and Monster.com’s websites for this job.
Still, how shall we stop these Eco-Commie-Leftist Loons from achieving their goals?
Become a stealth ‘prepper’.
Get a good list of ‘prepper’ ideas and supplies for the actions the Globalists of their New World Order along with their anarchist/green-agenda-gaia lover’s will attempt to do to you and your beloved ones.
Books and Materials are supplied for free on the internet. Like at scribd.com I read: Ferfal Aguiree’s ‘Surviving the Collapse’ (of Argentina), he wrote it and published it himself. Great advice about survival and preparedness, before, during and post collapse.
Also, CIVIL WAR II: The Coming Breakup of America by Thomas Chittum.
He has a Publisher’s and Author’s Preface online that UPDATE’s his 90’s book.
These are but two examples along with the website: green-agenda …that will give you a guided tour of these freaks mindset.
One of my most favorite You Tube video’s is: INSANE GAIA WORRSHIPPERS
It is all over You Tube. Some are called: EARTH FIRST GAIA WORSHIPPERS CRY TO TREES. Yup, watch these and you will see how Nimrod these people are.
And, I go by the phrase from the movie ‘Galaxy Quest’ “Never Surrender, Never Give Up”!

“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts unto uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonoured among themselves: for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.”
(Romans 1:22 – 25)

Gaia worshipers will eventually have to deal with followers of the Madhi, that’s when it gets interesting. I’ll supply the popcorn kernels someone else can supply the environmentally conscious cooking apparatus.

For those of us that are “real” Christians start reading the book! It doesn’t say that we can rape the earth for everything we can take and give nothing back but toxic waste. It commands us to be good stewards and to honor Gods creation. We have become pigs! Nothing wrong with making a lot’s of money, but when we are stealing it from our children’s future that is punishable. Stop being such hypocrites! Including those who are pro abortion. How about taking responsibility for what we are doing here folks! Does no one out there have the spine to stand on the side of what is truly right? Or do we need to have one foot on both sides of the death and destruction isle to feel safe? And to those how point fingers and want to punish company’s that pollute, try reaching out to help them become clean in a positive way that helps their bottom lines. The truth is both sides are right and both sides are wrong.

The real challenge is does anybody have the moral strength or intelligence to come together to do what is right for life in general. We reap reap what we sow and bring either blessings or curses upon ourselves!

Should China take responsibility too Chief? How about Mexico? Or is it just us? How long have you been on the Earth Chief? Do you remember just how dirty the world was just forty years ago? Do you realize that people used to die every year from smog back then? Did you know that they are finding birth control residue in the water now? Do you know that the dirtiest areas are around liberal cities? Do you thing the environment stops at our borders?

And what about the trail of garbage in the desert along our border? The left supports open borders, illegal immigration from Mexico. Have you ever sen the amount of sewage that flows up to San Diego from Mexico? Have you heard about the environmental disaster being caused by Condor over protection just to name one? Do you think it is helpful to baby seals when there are 50 thousand plus polar bears but the left will say they are going extinct? Do you have any compassion for the environment at all? To help the environment you have to be friends to the environment and that requires thought. How many species have to suffer in the name of leftist environmentalism? Again, if you care about the environment, get the facts for yourself, hint, you won’t get the facts from so called enviro organizations.

Some of us still go around turning off lights in the house as a result of the energy crisis of the 70s, its habit. I still go to the trouble to recycle, even though I suspect that the leftist controlled guvmint dumps it in a landfill just the same. I think about what I do and how it might affect the environment around me. My family are farmers who have been working the same land for a hundred or so years and the land is in just as good a shape today as a result of their efforts. It doesn’t pay to crap in your own water supply which is exactly what I believe the left is doing today.

And what happens when windmills kill the Condor babies and many other birds now that the left has gone around and exterminated other species that they thought were hurting the Condors? I see a rat infested future.

The left wants people to be the same as the animals. Frigging Lions do not go around cleaning up the environment. Sharks do not plant trees. Polar Bears and Wolves kill everything they can get their claws and teeth on, they don’t say, we have had enough time to conserve. God made Man the master of the planet and he gave us two hands and a brain to be able to get the job done.

And one last thing. I’m sick of this leftist bs! On the West Coast liberals have taken up residence all along the shore front. They build roads, they install stop lights they erect mansions that are eyesores looking from the sea inland. But once you hit the sand, well, that’s where it all starts. Liberals do not like the vehicles and structures of industry fouling their scenic view, they want the beach to be as quiet as a library.

All of these coastal communities import their water supply, they are right on the ocean but desalinization plants are out of the question and so they continue to rob the inland Vally of precious living giving water with which to grow crops that feed the world that enables people to spend time saving the environment.

These people eat a lot of fish but do we see any fish farms along the coast, heck no. They all have expensive German cars, that’s one way to spot them, they drive these cars sometimes many many miles to their offices in the big city but do they look for oil right of their coasts, heck no, they prefer to ship it here overseas. After all, shipping thousands of miles creates a smaller footprint and does less damage than finding it a mile or so off the beach and piping it in.

These leftists also push their way inland into the mountains, they want no industry there and so we see forests just burn down instead. Just give us your water the leftists will say. These fires are usually set by some pyro on a really windy day, the pyro has a history that leftists have gone easy on and that is why they are able to set the fires to begin with. On the west coast, water, and the hunt for water is much bigger than any 49er gold rush. We have a limited supply but the left has allowed tens of millions of people, Who Do Not Share Our Values, to stay here, do they not use water? I mean, it is so infuriating it is difficult to express but I have touched on just a few of the leftist double standards and well total lack of consideration for anyone or anything else, including nature.

Just shut up and give me your water and don’t spoil my scenic view even if my house makes you sick to your stomach!

‘tguse’ you have not only done your homework, you have also lived it!
I too grew up in Kalifornia. In LA the city itself. Yup, I know exactly what you are writing about.
I moved way up north in Kali, and guess what happened while I lived in the mountains? FIRE…
Lost everything I had.
Before I lost my home in the trees, there was the Kalifornia protected “mountain lions” to deal with.
You have to go through all kinds of “permits” to eliminate one. And, I had 5 up close and personal experiences with these “protected” mountain lions.
Right in town. These “protected” species, would follow children that walked down the small road within the small mountain town. They would go onto the school grounds as well and one felt like sunning itself on an old man’s roof, on it’s flat part for an entire day, keeping him trapped inside his home for hours in the heat.
I watched and kept up with the KLAMATHBUCKETBRIGADE online as the Post-War Agrarian Farming Community was given land to cultivate by the Government. Then came the ‘Green-Agenda’s and they tried to trick the farmers into thinking by saving the salmon and un-damning the water’s of the Klamath River Basin would benefit them. But, that was the opposite of what happened.
Now I live in an area that utilizes the: SAGEBRUSH REBELLION law. It bars, at least tries to, the United Nations from interloping and intruding into a ‘Sagebrush Rebellion’ Territory.
Still, the EARTH SUMMIT AGENDA 21 signed in 1992 in Rio, Brazil continues to absorb more lands by desolating the rural peoples.
I can tell you all how to find your Bio-Region Interactive mapping system that is used and controlled by the United Nations.
Just type this into a Search Engine——–>
United Nations + PAD + GAP Analysis + Interactive Map.
I use the Pacific Northwest one run by the University of Idaho for the United Nations.
I found ‘which’ piece of land, that is currently “public land” that is to become “protected” and no ordinary person will be able to even walk in there again.
Also ‘tguse’, while I lived way up north, I experienced the pollution and dangers of illegal green growers in every single National & State Forest area.
This website article is one of the top on Google Search now, by the way;)

That interactive map shows areas mosttly in the North West, and Canada. I don’t see any areas to be protected around me. It appears the State has to be a willing partner, and Oklahoma does not like the UN, or DaOne.

There is a woman here the area that was attacked by a lion in the middle of town in broad daylight on a centralized and well kept jogging trail. The lion grabbed her by the head and almost tore her face off, she was lucky to survive but she has undergone numerous surgeries. In the old days it was very rare to see a lion in the wild anywhere in the state. I never even saw any lions at summer camp up in the High Sierras and with all the youngsters around sleeping in open front cabins and with all the bacon they were cooking you would have thought they would have come around.

Over the many years I have been everywhere all around the state at least a half dozen times most of the time camping out somewhere along the way. Everything you talk about Agenda 21 is true but none of it was happening before we had all these east coast nannies and their foreign supporters move in. But in all the years I have only seen one lion. It happened several decades ago, I was coming over a hilltop heading into the valley below where there was an oak tree that we used to go and climb around in. As I came over the top I caught a glimpse of the lion disappearing under the tree. I asked my friend, did you see that but he said, see what? I thought, maybe I didn’t really see what I thought I saw but then I thought, no, I saw it.

Of course all of the animals that I have encountered over the years always take off running as soon as they see me coming, I think they might be concerned that I’m going to eat them or something.