Comments on: More On RootsMagichttp://www.beholdgenealogy.com/blog/?p=874
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http://www.beholdgenealogy.com/blog/../beholdblog.gifComments by Louis Kessler are Copyright 2000-2015 Louis Kessler, All Rights Reserved. Comments by others belong to the people who made them.By: Louis Kesslerhttp://www.beholdgenealogy.com/blog/?p=874#comment-387
Louis KesslerSat, 26 Nov 2011 05:12:49 +0000http://www.beholdgenealogy.com/blog/?p=874#comment-387My idea here is to enter source reference information that might correspond to a selection out of about 20 fields in a single form, e.g. (book, author, publisher, call number, url, where within source, page, etc.) and the person could easily pick the ones they need to enter for that source. Now of course, I wouldn't use a form and fields, but some other mechanism (e.g. dropdown or menu or shortcut keys) to make it much easier.
I also added a similar comment on Kellie Reeve's post: http://kelzagenie.blogspot.com/2011/11/tuesday-technological-tirade-citing-and.htmlMy idea here is to enter source reference information that might correspond to a selection out of about 20 fields in a single form, e.g. (book, author, publisher, call number, url, where within source, page, etc.) and the person could easily pick the ones they need to enter for that source. Now of course, I wouldn’t use a form and fields, but some other mechanism (e.g. dropdown or menu or shortcut keys) to make it much easier.

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genejTue, 22 Nov 2011 21:16:02 +0000http://www.beholdgenealogy.com/blog/?p=874#comment-381"I do know that if it will take you longer than 10 or 20 seconds to enter the information for a source reference, then that’s too long."
Awww, Louis. I'd need Andy's neural implant API to enter information using that benchmark. --GJ“I do know that if it will take you longer than 10 or 20 seconds to enter the information for a source reference, then that’s too long.”

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Louis KesslerMon, 21 Nov 2011 18:02:10 +0000http://www.beholdgenealogy.com/blog/?p=874#comment-378Randy:
I am trying to de-emphasize the citation, and emphasize that documenting your sources is the important thing. How to formalize it for publishing not only should take a back seat, but it hampers the process of documenting your sources because it makes that more difficult.
I have to admit that I only have general ideas now on how entering source information will work with Behold. It will be more structured than free-form (probably GEDCOM'ish structure), but very much less so than Shown Mills. I'll try to get users to primarily enter source references directly into the Source Index section of the Everything Report, Then you can analyze each source in detail, see what events and facts it tells you about, and then add and link them to the conclusions you include into your individuals and families.
I do know that if it will take you longer than 10 or 20 seconds to enter the information for a source reference, then that's too long. In RootsMagic, just deciding on the right citation template among the hundreds can take longer than 20 seconds. That's not necessary until you're ready to publish.
LouisRandy:

I am trying to de-emphasize the citation, and emphasize that documenting your sources is the important thing. How to formalize it for publishing not only should take a back seat, but it hampers the process of documenting your sources because it makes that more difficult.

I have to admit that I only have general ideas now on how entering source information will work with Behold. It will be more structured than free-form (probably GEDCOM’ish structure), but very much less so than Shown Mills. I’ll try to get users to primarily enter source references directly into the Source Index section of the Everything Report, Then you can analyze each source in detail, see what events and facts it tells you about, and then add and link them to the conclusions you include into your individuals and families.

I do know that if it will take you longer than 10 or 20 seconds to enter the information for a source reference, then that’s too long. In RootsMagic, just deciding on the right citation template among the hundreds can take longer than 20 seconds. That’s not necessary until you’re ready to publish.

Louis

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rjseaverMon, 21 Nov 2011 04:15:08 +0000http://www.beholdgenealogy.com/blog/?p=874#comment-376I'll be interested in seeing how easy it is to enter a source citation in Behold.
I think that it is much easier to enter a source citation in the RootsMagic 4 templates than in Family Tree Maker 2012. It's also easier to enter a free-form sourvce citation in RM4 than FTM 2012.
I like the RM 4 method of being able to put a shorthand title in the Master source field (ABBR tag) and the full title in the Title field (TITL tag). With free-forms, that becomes the master source citation.I’ll be interested in seeing how easy it is to enter a source citation in Behold.

I think that it is much easier to enter a source citation in the RootsMagic 4 templates than in Family Tree Maker 2012. It’s also easier to enter a free-form sourvce citation in RM4 than FTM 2012.

I like the RM 4 method of being able to put a shorthand title in the Master source field (ABBR tag) and the full title in the Title field (TITL tag). With free-forms, that becomes the master source citation.