well I didnt compare our crowds to Salfords. I agree it would be silly.I answered a point about Warrington getting no more than the 1800 today.For some bizarre reason you started to talk about Warrington's crowds at Wilderspool and quoted crowds from 27 years ago. What was your thinking behind that? It really was a bizarre tangent.

If you are a potential investor attending today's game and only 1800 people turn up, you are not likely to be keen to part with your hard-earned money any time soon. My stance on this is the same as it was with Bradford, we need to stop propping up failing entity's and let them start again from the bottom of the pyramid.

Give the hardworking Championship clubs a chance to prove what they can do in the top-tier.

If you are a potential investor attending today's game and only 1800 people turn up, you are not likely to be keen to part with your hard-earned money any time soon. My stance on this is the same as it was with Bradford, we need to stop propping up failing entity's and let them start again from the bottom of the pyramid.

Give the hardworking Championship clubs a chance to prove what they can do in the top-tier.

I'm all for that, as long as Paul Danials is on the board of the club and can 'magic' up 8,000 supporters. In reality how many are ready to go today and replace Salford (there is a rumour that Fev may soon maybe) and last the course of three years.

I'm all for that, as long as Paul Danials is on the board of the club and can 'magic' up 8,000 supporters. In reality how many are ready to go today and replace Salford (there is a rumour that Fev may soon maybe) and last the course of three years.

And that's British Rugby League's major weakness.

The gulf between the haves and have nots has been allowed to widen to such an extent that, when one of the haves suddenly find that they haven't really, none of the have nots are anywhere near capable of stepping up.

The gulf between the haves and have nots has been allowed to widen to such an extent that, when one of the haves suddenly find that they haven't really, none of the have nots are anywhere near capable of stepping up.

The alternative is to hold back the haves and stifle the game to hold them back to the level of the have nots.

We now have a situation where a club that was a have not have faught long and hard to join the haves, they may or may not have got there, but they know what they have to do and are doing their best to do it.

Other clubs who want to join the SL club should take note.

Let's force clubs to catch up and not pull back others down to 1960's level's

The alternative is to hold back the haves and stifle the game to hold them back to the level of the have nots.

We now have a situation where a club that was a have not have faught long and hard to join the haves, they may or may not have got there, but they know what they have to do and are doing their best to do it.

Other clubs who want to join the SL club should take note.

Lets forse clubs to catch up and not pull back others.

Or, let's be proactive and help them, a stronger 2nd tier that keeps the 1st tier on it's toes is vital to the health of the game.

Not sure of your comparison with Warrington now and Salford now is either, top of the table team on the up compared to bottom of the table and falling.

You've always said clubs shouldn't depend on a good team to increase attendances. Warrington increased theirs significantly long before we had any success.

That showing at Salford is woeful.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

You've always said clubs shouldn't depend on a good team to increase attendances. Warrington increased theirs significantly long before we had any success.

That showing at Salford is woeful.

Warrington increased their crowds from 7,000 to 10,000 over a year when they dropped out of the play off places. I have no doubt intimidating dumps put people off and new stadia turn people on.

But undoubtedly winning RL draws the fans as well, as does a sense of "we're going places" and under Moran Wire were, fans knew that, they aren't daft (are you?).

Salford had low crowds from being an uncompetitive RL team for 35 years and a new ground only added 500 fans.

As for the poor turnout for the Swinton game why should anyone give up their sunday for a game between two down and nearly out clubs? If Rugby League wants good crowds it needs to offer a good product not rely on emotional blackmail to get a crowd.

Equally 10,000 Salford fans aren't daft, they know it will take a deal with a big investor who has the "going places" effect to get the crowds back, not a survival plan.