(10-10-2016 04:14 PM)Vosur Wrote: I wouldn't be so sure. A new post-tape NBC poll came out today that has Hillary ahead of Trump by 14% in a two-way race and by 11% in a four-way race. That seems like an insurmountably big lead to me.

The only poll that counts at all is the one next Tuesday when we go to the polls and do it for real. The only one!

(03-11-2016 05:26 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: ...
Do you think Trump will get closer to Bernie's positions and goals?

Actual, yes.

(03-11-2016 06:42 PM)Full Circle Wrote: ...
Bernie will be the ranking majority leader in the Senate Budget Committee with Clinton in office or the minority leader with Drumpf, who do you think he’ll have more sway with, Clinton or Drumpf?

Trump.

It's easy to appeal to a narcissist.

Tell him that he'll be remembered with universal affection, like Nye Bevan, if he creates a National Health Service.
Tell him he'll be greater than Mandela for championing BlackLivesMatter.
Tell he'll be immortalised, like Churchill, for I dunno, make something up.

It's Pence you have to worry about.

Bernie needs to isolate Pence and spend every minute of every day with Trump.

4 years later, Bernie will have so much voter recognition that he can run for ...

Actually, four years from now, the double whammy of climate disasters and the Dickensian-despair triggered by Industrie 4.0 will create so much turmoil that none of it will matter.

(03-11-2016 05:26 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: ...
Do you think Trump will get closer to Bernie's positions and goals?

Actual, yes.

(03-11-2016 06:42 PM)Full Circle Wrote: ...
Bernie will be the ranking majority leader in the Senate Budget Committee with Clinton in office or the minority leader with Drumpf, who do you think he’ll have more sway with, Clinton or Drumpf?

Trump.

It's easy to appeal to a narcissist.

Tell him that he'll be remembered with universal affection, like Nye Bevan, if he creates a National Health Service.
Tell him he'll be greater than Mandela for championing BlackLivesMatter.
Tell he'll be immortalised, like Churchill, for I dunno, make something up.

It's Pence you have to worry about.

Bernie needs to isolate Pence and spend every minute of every day with Trump.

4 years later, Bernie will have so much voter recognition that he can run for ...

Actually, four years from now, the double whammy of climate disasters and the Dickensian-despair triggered by Industrie 4.0 will create so much turmoil that none of it will matter.

Anyway, who fancies a pint?

Seriously dude, you have a critical shortage of capitalizing on ripe visual meme potential.

Polls are not looking good. The only benefit to me personally is that a Trump win will take me out of US politics news media/forums etc and back to tending my allotment.

D.

Watched something last night with some campaign experts who were saying at this point in the race, with early voting already deep into its cycle, media polls are t exactly reliable. They pointed to one in Nevada that had Drumpf up like 5-6 points and they just laughed at it. The early voting in Clark County is beating last year and is being driven by Latino Dems. There is no way Trump wins Nevada yet the poll has him leading by a bunch. Polls go out the window if they aren't polling actual votes made at this point. They also said the algorithms and data campaigns use are far superior to the media and university polls we follow. And remember, national polls mean nothing, too.

(03-11-2016 12:24 PM)Keen Wrote: Nah. Like, I love bernie and his core values, but nothing he can say will make me vote for Clinton. She is a corporate shill and I have no interest in voting for her. The movement he started is bigger than any single person, even if he was the catalyst. I think its more important to think critically than to blindly follow anyone, even someone I admire as much as Bernie.

Are you:
a) voting for Trump
b) voting for a third-party candidate
c) not voting
?