Check out http://quackenbushairguns.com/ , look at the hunting pics.My brother just bought a similar type in .45 caliber(bore dia. is .454), with a 200 grain bullet it will do on average 750-800 fps.He also ordered the hand pump so he won't have to rely on a scuba tank to fill it. I figure the airgun,bullet mold,pump,spare parts and seals would make an ideal game getter.I reload for my 45ACPs so I got several different bullets to try out in it plus what he ordered from the pelletman.They do say to only shoot lead bullets through it no jacketed stuff.We plan on doing quite a few tests on it when it comes in as far as penatration and accuracy but I'm really curious to see how loud it is.Will post back with results when it gets here.
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I looked the site over quicklu/slightly, I noticed there were no prices for the airguns ANYWHERE, probably because they cost anywhere from $800 - $2000, which is where most of the big bore high quality air guns are, and he disn't want to scare you off too fast. Lewis & Clark had an air rifle with them, the Austians had them for their army (Bonapart ordered any enemy found with one to be shot on sight as they would work in rain and his muzzle loading black power flint locks guns wouldn't

My brother got his for around $450 from http://www.compasseco.com/ ,I believe the pump came from pyramidair.com. The bigbore air rifles from Quackenbush he was looking at were around $550-650. The prices are there as well as the different models he makes though he has none available at this time. Also according to my brother Quackenbush's airgun is only good for 3 shots before needing to be recharged were as the one he ordered instead is good for 8-10 full power shots.I'll be reporting back on its performance when he gets it in and we get a chance to test different loads.
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I really don't understand these guns unless you can't legally own a firearm. .25 Is the highest caliber i would ever want to own in an air gun, simply because .25 is a good airgun if you live in a confined area and have woodchucks. Why would you want a .45 caliber airgun? i just don't get it.

I really don't understand these guns unless you can't legally own a firearm. .25 Is the highest caliber i would ever want to own in an air gun, simply because .25 is a good airgun if you live in a confined area and have woodchucks. Why would you want a .45 caliber airgun? i just don't get it.

To each his own. i guess.

I'll agree to that. The only survival rifle I have seen is the .22 AR - 7, my dad had one for quite a while, I've fired it a few times before.

Check out the web site I posted and look at the hunting pics. There is an elk,some hogs,deer,turkeys, and some coyotes. All the big animals were taken with the big bores. The .45 cal. would be the most versitile in my opinion becuase of the common lead reloading supplies for them 45acp and 45 colt. It is a good legal option for those of can't own real firearms but want to hunt. It is not the perfect survival gun but I do think it could be a viable option for some.I personally think it is kind of neat. I'll post the results of the different tests we do with it when it finally comes in.
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I had one(AR7) years ago and didn't care for it at all. If I wanted a compact 22 rifle I think I would opt to go with either a 10/22 paclite setup or a 10/22 with a choate folding stock.I had the choate set up but gave it to one of my brothers kids for his b-day.Been planning on getting another one since the 25round mags being made again and not nearly as exspensive.Just got a AR15 22lr conversion kit for my pack,one gun two functions.
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A survival rifle IMO is one that is capable of dispatching various game and could be used for personal defense. As stated before this may not be the most ideal weapon of choice but I feel it is a viable one. With a bullet mold, spare seals maybe, and a hand pump it could fill these roles. There is no powder to keep dry or brass to keep track of. The noise reduction is also a plus. Having a bullet mold would be a good idea for reusing deformed bullets removed from game and scavenged wheel weights. As with a normal firearm though you should stock up on ammo, spare parts,tools, and learn how to make repairs.Another website that has pics of game taken with these types of weapons is http://www.bigboreairguns.com/ . These high powered airguns can be had in .22,.25,9mm,308,.44,.45,.50 but I think the bigbores would perform better.
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