I'm switching ecommerce platforms today, so ordering will be restored in 2 hours.

Is posting the link to it against the ATS terms? If so, I'd be happy to send you a message with a link.

I'm not sure about the terms. I need to run out the door right now for school/work, so I won't be back for around 11 hours. I'll check then. A pm
would be great though as well. Beer soap sounds awesome.

I thought it would be an interesting thread with information that you might not gleen easily unless you are familiar with the product. For example, I
know about boutique music gear manufacturers who might not be common knowledge or even immediately googlable if someone does not look for it. If that
is the response I get, it really doesn't matter that much to me anyway. I find the made in the US products I need. If you don't want to have a civil
discussion, fine.

Why are they broken dreams? It's up to you, when you go shopping to make sure what you purchase is made in America, or are you one of those zombies
that walks the isles just tossing crap into the cart to get it over with?

You, as a consumer in America, sets the tone for what is made in America.

Why are they broken dreams? It's up to you, when you go shopping to make sure what you purchase is made in America, or are you one of those zombies
that walks the isles just tossing crap into the cart to get it over with?

You, as a consumer in America, sets the tone for what is made in America.

Only make a demand, via your purchases for American goods.

Plain and simple.

He is saying 'broken dreams' are manufactured in America, like another poster said Heart Attacks are.
He's just making a statement about the state of things in America, is all!

A lot of this is perception versus regulation. I'll give you an example. I have a friend (neighbor) who makes beautiful custom quality shutters for
windows (both functional and decorative) for residential homes. In Arizona, many contractor-type jobs are regulated via an expensive licensing and
certification process. He can make the shutters for about $40 in materials, and they are gorgeous. He can sell them for $200 - $500 a set, but -- to
install them in any quantity beyond a single pair (about $1000) requires a contractors licence. He can never scrape together the money required to get
one, so he gave up. I tried to tell him that he needed to focus on manufacturing the shutters, and marketing them to existing contractors and DIY
self-installers across the country. This would increase his market penetration and allow him to focus on manufacturing shutters, which requires less
onerous licencing and regulation. He couldn't see it: his life experience told him that the only way to win a market is to control it from end to
end, so he gave up. Now his house and my house has beautiful shutters made of recycled materials that are far more durable than any natural product,
but no one else has them. Meanwhile -- he is looking for a "job."

Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
A lot of this is perception versus regulation. I'll give you an example. I have a friend (neighbor) who makes beautiful custom quality shutters for
windows (both functional and decorative) for residential homes. In Arizona, many contractor-type jobs are regulated via an expensive licensing and
certification process. He can make the shutters for about $40 in materials, and they are gorgeous. He can sell them for $200 - $500 a set, but -- to
install them in any quantity beyond a single pair (about $1000) requires a contractors licence. He can never scrape together the money required to get
one, so he gave up. I tried to tell him that he needed to focus on manufacturing the shutters, and marketing them to existing contractors and DIY
self-installers across the country. This would increase his market penetration and allow him to focus on manufacturing shutters, which requires less
onerous licencing and regulation. He couldn't see it: his life experience told him that the only way to win a market is to control it from end to
end, so he gave up. Now his house and my house has beautiful shutters made of recycled materials that are far more durable than any natural product,
but no one else has them. Meanwhile -- he is looking for a "job."

That is so sad, really. I live in Arizona, and there is a need for this type of custom work. It's too bad he couldn't see past the end of his own
nose, to be successful.

I was getting out another scraper blade manufactured by 'Richard', no word of a lie, it said 'made in USA' on the blade!

I don't make this stuff up!

Are bic lighters still made in USA?
Why yes, yes they are.

A lot of stuff that can be made by a machine, is made in North America, the labour costs are mostly in moving the stuff around. Seems the other stuff
made in NA is stuff that is unique with a small market, or sophisticated stuff that not mass produced. Or large appliances.

So, low labour goods, big ticket items, and stuff not made 'yet' by them over there is made in USA (and Canada).

That isn't enough to create jobs for our workers, most of these factories are computerized. Some heavy equipment and welding jobs are still here
though, but still not enough to supply work to those who have IQ's under a hundred. These people need livable wage jobs also or they become a burden
on others.

I did a study on this before and there is a huge discrepancy of what is made in America and what is not. If something is imported from a foreign
country and one part is added here it is allowed to be considered made in America. I see American made tools with exact counterpart Chinese made
tools. Just the label and possibly a few small parts are made in America. All the evidence by our government is distorted because of loopholes in
reporting.

I did a study on this before and there is a huge discrepancy of what is made in America and what is not. If something is imported from a foreign
country and one part is added here it is allowed to be considered made in America. I see American made tools with exact counterpart Chinese made
tools. Just the label and possibly a few small parts are made in America. All the evidence by our government is distorted because of loopholes in
reporting.

Some products say: Assembled in America

If certain mechanical parts are only available off shore - - - there's not a whole lot you can do about it if you need that part.

It's shocking that list because I thought Prada and Coach bags were made in the USA. If they're chinese crap, why in the name of crack is it f&&*&^&
so expensive for a chinese made crappy prada bag ( I don't think either coach bags or prada are very stylish myself). So we have overpriced Gar-bage
(prounounce it garh bahggge) as well.

Some designer made these bags, hyped them up so people think they are something special, they are freakin' bags for chrisakes!
And the designer thinks he/she is something special as they laugh all the way to the bank.

Why do women want a prada purse? Someone created a desire for women to want to tote a prada bag for prestige and style and are willing to pay for a
name.
What a crock of bull!

Some designer made these bags, hyped them up so people think they are something special, they are freakin' bags for chrisakes!
And the designer thinks he/she is something special as they laugh all the way to the bank.

Why do women want a prada purse? Someone created a desire for women to want to tote a prada bag for prestige and style and are willing to pay for a
name.
What a crock of bull!

Actually I think that's perdy much what I said...however doin some research shows they're made in Italy...where I can see this because Itaian
leather has always been superior, however I find that to me Coach and Prada look like "old lady" Bags I call them HAG BAGS lol. My kid wanted one I
told her it's about 50 yrs too old looking for her taste.

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