Labour’s Jonathan Ashworth said the move was “not good enough” and the government needed to “take action”.

“This situation is of the Tories’ own making and it’s about time they woke up and took action to get a grip on this crisis”, he said.

“The Tory government saying there will be no more funding for our NHS simply isn’t good enough.”

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He called on Hunt to honour NHS promises made by the Leave campaign and in the Tory manifesto:“What happened to the extra £350m a week we were promised by Boris Johnson and Liam Fox?”, he said.“The NHS is in crisis with A&E and GP waiting times soaring, with 1 in 4 now having to wait a week or more to see their GP or not getting an appointment at all, and serious staff shortages being exacerbated by training places being cut and nurse bursaries scrapped.”“The Tories promised during the last election they’d properly fund our NHS. This is yet another example of Tory broken promises.”

Chris Ham, Chief Executive of The King’s Fund, said meeting demand was “impossible” with current NHS funds, and that Hunt’s approach “misses the point”:

“It is becoming clear that senior politicians do not yet fully understand the impact on patients of the huge pressures facing the NHS. The view from the top of government appears to be that the NHS has been given the extra money it asked for and should deliver what is expected of it”, he said.

“But this misses the point that demand for services is rising rapidly and the NHS is currently halfway through the most austere decade in its history.”

He warned that healthcare was at a “pivotal time” and that funding targets are being missed “all year round”.

“This reflects the impossible task of continuing to meet rising demand for services and maintain standards of care within current funding constraints”, he said.

The government’s claim that the NHS will receive an additional £10 billion by 2020 was criticised in a recent select committee report, which found some of of the cash would merely be shifted between areas of the heath service.

Yesterday the head of the body representing NHS trusts warned that the savings some areas had been told to find by 2021 were “so aggressive” that entire hospitals could also be closed.

First to be axed will be maternity wards and accident and emergency units, as part of 44 “sustainability and transformation plans” that will be submitted to NHS England this week.

The Tories doing everthing they can to run down the NHS and make sure their mates make a fortune out of private health care. Never mind what that does to the rest of the population. They have been underfunding it on purpose every since they came to power and selling it off. Huge numbers of people voted for Brexit because they believed the lie that it would mean more money for the NHS (pretty stupid of them to believe, but they did, in droves). Now the people who promised it cynically say 'surely you didn't actually believe that? Sorry mate, you've been had!' And they have.

“What happened to the extra £350m a week?”

The Tories doing everthing they can to run down the NHS and make sure their mates make a fortune out of private health care. Never mind what that does to the rest of the population. They have been underfunding it on purpose every since they came to power and selling it off. Huge numbers of people voted for Brexit because they believed the lie that it would mean more money for the NHS (pretty stupid of them to believe, but they did, in droves). Now the people who promised it cynically say 'surely you didn't actually believe that? Sorry mate, you've been had!' And they have.

Our whole society is dominated by money and greed. I don't think anyone truly believes otherwise, or that things will change, it's all too far gone. And that is world wide, not unique to the UK.

sassy wrote:I've lived a long time, and I have never seen a time when greed is so rewarded. It makes me despair.

Doesn't it? No wonder we have such a divide here in the UK. There are those who have, and those who don't, and I personally believe that all people should have the chance to better themselves via education and career and that it should be free to all, no matter their age. Many many years ago, there was a thing called a TOPS scheme (The Development of Training Opportunities Scheme), and it was free to everyone in the UK. It enabled me to train and get a decent job after years of bringing up my child. Then it was scrapped. Now, you better have funding or parental financial backing to get a uni degree if you want a decent career. God help you, if you come from a poor family or have poor academic skills. Having poor academic skills has fuck all to do with compassion, for example...the lynch pin for being a good nurse.

Perhaps our Government should be doing a better job of helping entrepreneurs and providing funding for them. Helping people to help themselves in ways that offer hope and are more achievable for them.

Funnily enough, I disagree with the Guardian on many occasions, especially since the take over. However, these are FACTS not opinions and the story is being carried by many newspapers. I sincerely hope that a few years down the line you don't ill and need the NHS, after the Tories have dismantled it, because it's very rare for anyone to go through life without the need of medical attention. When the time comes, just remember how stupid you were today.

What has put the NHS in trouble is refusing to train enough doctors, refusing to train enough nurses, cutting the amount of money in real terms that the NHS gets, selling it off to their mates and going back on every promise they ever made. The £350mill a week lie was just one of so many promises kicked into the touch line when it came to coughing up.

Tommy Monk wrote:The huff and puff and the guardian are the two worst lying spinners of news...

And sassy laps it up every time...

Oh, come on. You don't need a newspaper to see this country is up the spout when it comes to what we're discussing. You need a string of 'qualifications' to work in most places now. B & Q requires people to take a psychology test before they consider you! How clever do you have to be to sell fucking spanners?

Also 10% of nhs costs go to treating diabetes... of which 90% of cases are completely preventable by improving diet and exercise...

I support the NHS and I am happy to contribute towards it... but I want the money spent properly on treating illness... not wasted on beurocracy or vanity operations of Mr sex changes etc

It's more complicated than that, but I do personally believe that health tourism should be stopped. That's not fair into those us paying into the system for lifetimes. As for diabetes and other self inflicted conditions, well, that's just tough because most of the people who get that have paid into the system. It might not be fair, but that's just the way it is.

What has put the NHS in trouble is refusing to train enough doctors, refusing to train enough nurses, cutting the amount of money in real terms that the NHS gets, selling it off to their mates and going back on every promise they ever made. The £350mill a week lie was just one of so many promises kicked into the touch line when it came to coughing up.

I think we are being lied to all the time, in many places and in many ways.

Tommy Monk wrote:The huff and puff and the guardian are the two worst lying spinners of news...

And sassy laps it up every time...

Oh, come on. You don't need a newspaper to see this country is up the spout when it comes to what we're discussing. You need a string of 'qualifications' to work in most places now. B & Q requires people to take a psychology test before they consider you! How clever do you have to be to sell fucking spanners?

Tom didn't just fail the B&Q test, he failed the Lidl, Aldi, council toilet cleaner and roadsweeper jobs.He did, however, secure a position as Farage's arse wiper.

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Tommy Monk wrote:The huff and puff and the guardian are the two worst lying spinners of news...

And sassy laps it up every time...

Oh, come on. You don't need a newspaper to see this country is up the spout when it comes to what we're discussing. You need a string of 'qualifications' to work in most places now. B & Q requires people to take a psychology test before they consider you! How clever do you have to be to sell fucking spanners?

Labour left office with govt borrowing £180billion a year and rising...

They added mountains of expensive bureaucracy to every part of the public sector...

The PFI deals meant that we have a bill to pay back £300 billion for £50 billion worth of hospitals...

They also signed every business up to be bound by and to follow expensive eu regulatory burden which still acts like a ball and chain suppressing growth...

And with the amount of potentially dangerous 3rd world immigrants labour let into the country... I'm not surprised that b and q have put a psychology test in place for employees dealing with the public and with access to so many potentially dangerous and lethal tools and equipment!!!

Especially with the amount of isis sympathisers in the country...

And... as labour dumbed down the education system and made exams easier... they are worth so much less now... so again no surprise that more are needed to prove the same basic level of ability as only a couple of qualifications would have done before...

_________________“Truth is ever to be found in the simplicity, and not in the multiplicity and confusion of things.” — Isaac Newton

'The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.' — George Orwell

What has put the NHS in trouble is refusing to train enough doctors, refusing to train enough nurses, cutting the amount of money in real terms that the NHS gets, selling it off to their mates and going back on every promise they ever made. The £350mill a week lie was just one of so many promises kicked into the touch line when it came to coughing up.

I think we are being lied to all the time, in many places and in many ways.

The £350 million a week was clearly set out...

We give the eu that amount overall but then the eu gives done of it back in grants and subsidies... but only some of it... and the eu are the ones who decide where and how that money is spent... nearly £200 million a week of that money never comes back to uk... it goes to the eu and we never see if again.

We voted to stop giving the money to the eu and to decide ourselves what to do with it.

Obviously some of the money would continue to go into uk subsidies and grants... but it would be for us to decide... and the rest of the money stays at home too!!!

Some of which could be used to put extra money into the NHS!!!

This was all made very clear before the vote!!!

It is only pro eu lefties who were too stupid to understand this and thought 350 million a week was bring promised to the NHS...as they keep showing by bleating on about it when it was never said!!!

_________________“Truth is ever to be found in the simplicity, and not in the multiplicity and confusion of things.” — Isaac Newton

'The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.' — George Orwell

Oh, come on. You don't need a newspaper to see this country is up the spout when it comes to what we're discussing. You need a string of 'qualifications' to work in most places now. B & Q requires people to take a psychology test before they consider you! How clever do you have to be to sell fucking spanners?

Labour left office with govt borrowing £180billion a year and rising...

They added mountains of expensive bureaucracy to every part of the public sector...

The PFI deals meant that we have a bill to pay back £300 billion for £50 billion worth of hospitals...

They also signed every business up to be bound by and to follow expensive eu regulatory burden which still acts like a ball and chain suppressing growth...

And with the amount of potentially dangerous 3rd world immigrants labour let into the country... I'm not surprised that b and q have put a psychology test in place for employees dealing with the public and with access to so many potentially dangerous and lethal tools and equipment!!!

Especially with the amount of isis sympathisers in the country...

And... as labour dumbed down the education system and made exams easier... they are worth so much less now... so again no surprise that more are needed to prove the same basic level of ability as only a couple of qualifications would have done before...

Seriously, when was the last time a person was bludgeoned to death in B & Q by an employee? Imagine all those 'sandwich technicians' in Subway...all potential poisoners. Or all those untrained and unqualified carers who could potentially murder old people on their commodes. Remember Harold Shipman? All that training and all those qualifications and vetted to the tits, yet he still managed to take out dozens of pensioners.

So you would be delighted to serve a foreign, black, gay Muslim then?From your tone and attitude on here, you would want to machine gun him.It would cause me no problems serving him.Can you say the same?

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Listen hand shandy... I was on my way home yesterday from work... going down the stairs onto underground platform there was a man in front going really slowly down stairs and everyone was bustling past him at speed to get past him... I went to go round him just the same when I noticed he was holding a white stick so he was obviously blind/partially sighted and this was the reason for his slow movement down stairs...

I was the only person to stop and ask if he was OK and needed a bit of help getting to the platform... he was black!

So why don't you fuck off with your continuous unfounded accusations against me of being racist!!!???

_________________“Truth is ever to be found in the simplicity, and not in the multiplicity and confusion of things.” — Isaac Newton

'The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.' — George Orwell

I think we are being lied to all the time, in many places and in many ways.

The £350 million a week was clearly set out...

We give the eu that amount overall but then the eu gives done of it back in grants and subsidies... but only some of it... and the eu are the ones who decide where and how that money is spent... nearly £200 million a week of that money never comes back to uk... it goes to the eu and we never see if again.

We voted to stop giving the money to the eu and to decide ourselves what to do with it.

Obviously some of the money would continue to go into uk subsidies and grants... but it would be for us to decide... and the rest of the money stays at home too!!!

Some of which could be used to put extra money into the NHS!!!

This was all made very clear before the vote!!!

It is only pro eu lefties who were too stupid to understand this and thought 350 million a week was bring promised to the NHS...as they keep showing by bleating on about it when it was never said!!!

Oh... and another point... it was the idiot pro eu numpties who thought the NHS could get extra £350million a week by leaving the eu... but still voted to stay in the eu and keep giving the money to the eu instead... and bollocks to the NHS!!!

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_________________“Truth is ever to be found in the simplicity, and not in the multiplicity and confusion of things.” — Isaac Newton

'The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.' — George Orwell

sassy wrote:I've lived a long time, and I have never seen a time when greed is so rewarded. It makes me despair.

Doesn't it? No wonder we have such a divide here in the UK. There are those who have, and those who don't, and I personally believe that all people should have the chance to better themselves via education and career and that it should be free to all, no matter their age. Many many years ago, there was a thing called a TOPS scheme (The Development of Training Opportunities Scheme), and it was free to everyone in the UK. It enabled me to train and get a decent job after years of bringing up my child. Then it was scrapped. Now, you better have funding or parental financial backing to get a uni degree if you want a decent career. God help you, if you come from a poor family or have poor academic skills. Having poor academic skills has fuck all to do with compassion, for example...the lynch pin for being a good nurse.

Perhaps our Government should be doing a better job of helping entrepreneurs and providing funding for them. Helping people to help themselves in ways that offer hope and are more achievable for them.

A degree has never guaranteed a well-paying job, let alone a good career, unless it's something vocational, and even then, you need to have the right attitude. Qualifications alone are never enough. Entrepreneurs will find a way to succeed anyway, so I wouldn't worry too much about them.

Tommy Monk wrote:The huff and puff and the guardian are the two worst lying spinners of news...

And sassy laps it up every time...

Oh, come on. You don't need a newspaper to see this country is up the spout when it comes to what we're discussing. You need a string of 'qualifications' to work in most places now. B & Q requires people to take a psychology test before they consider you! How clever do you have to be to sell fucking spanners?

I have no idea if that's true or not, but a psychology test probably has nothing to do with being "clever".

The Brexiteers lied over the £350 million going to the NHS. For fucks sake, the bus was adorned with the poster for ong enough for half of Europe to see it.No ifs. No buts. No ambiguity. It clearly said the saving would go to help the NHS.For that premeditated and downright lie, people ought to be charged over rigging the vote.

_________________I have never met a caring sharing and compassionate Tory.Tories and far right wingers. All liarsVisit Turkey. But beware, Sharia law is watching everyone.

We give the eu that amount overall but then the eu gives done of it back in grants and subsidies... but only some of it... and the eu are the ones who decide where and how that money is spent... nearly £200 million a week of that money never comes back to uk... it goes to the eu and we never see if again.

We voted to stop giving the money to the eu and to decide ourselves what to do with it.

Obviously some of the money would continue to go into uk subsidies and grants... but it would be for us to decide... and the rest of the money stays at home too!!!

Some of which could be used to put extra money into the NHS!!!

This was all made very clear before the vote!!!

It is only pro eu lefties who were too stupid to understand this and thought 350 million a week was bring promised to the NHS...as they keep showing by bleating on about it when it was never said!!!

Oh... and another point... it was the idiot pro eu numpties who thought the NHS could get extra £350million a week by leaving the eu... but still voted to stay in the eu and keep giving the money to the eu instead... and bollocks to the NHS!!!

_________________“Truth is ever to be found in the simplicity, and not in the multiplicity and confusion of things.” — Isaac Newton

'The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.' — George Orwell

Handy Andy wrote:The Brexiteers lied over the £350 million going to the NHS. For fucks sake, the bus was adorned with the poster for ong enough for half of Europe to see it.No ifs. No buts. No ambiguity. It clearly said the saving would go to help the NHS.For that premeditated and downright lie, people ought to be charged over rigging the vote.

Indeed - and today it has emerged that May is considering giving the EU billions for access to the single market - hey ho.

Handy Andy wrote:The Brexiteers lied over the £350 million going to the NHS. For fucks sake, the bus was adorned with the poster for ong enough for half of Europe to see it.No ifs. No buts. No ambiguity. It clearly said the saving would go to help the NHS.For that premeditated and downright lie, people ought to be charged over rigging the vote.

Handy Andy wrote:The Brexiteers lied over the £350 million going to the NHS. For fucks sake, the bus was adorned with the poster for ong enough for half of Europe to see it.No ifs. No buts. No ambiguity. It clearly said the saving would go to help the NHS.For that premeditated and downright lie, people ought to be charged over rigging the vote.

Indeed - and today it has emerged that May is considering giving the EU billions for access to the single market - hey ho.

WTO rules are a better option for us...

_________________“Truth is ever to be found in the simplicity, and not in the multiplicity and confusion of things.” — Isaac Newton

'The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.' — George Orwell

Handy Andy wrote:The Brexiteers lied over the £350 million going to the NHS. For fucks sake, the bus was adorned with the poster for ong enough for half of Europe to see it.No ifs. No buts. No ambiguity. It clearly said the saving would go to help the NHS.For that premeditated and downright lie, people ought to be charged over rigging the vote.

That didn't influence me because I didn't see it.

It's there for all to see now on Sassy's Op.It made the national news headlines for a week on every tv and newspaper for a week.The masseage is clear and unambiguous. It was also a GREAT BIG FUCKING LIE.

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