The last time i saw The Fall was at a festival in London in 2010. I went up the front, then came back to my friends who had been doing something else, and asked "so what did you think" and one of them said "That is the worst thing i have ever heard". And i thought "YES!".
I may blab more about my Fall experiences in the next few days, because The Fall were the best of the best

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"It is absolutely ridiculous, they are behaving like a cult" - The Vatican

this one's hitting me really hard again. the concept of a world without the fall is pretty mind boggling.....

keep having flashbacks to seeing them 3 nights in a row a couple of years back and thinking they were far better than any band deserves to be after four decades....autochip's gotta go down as one of their utter masterpieces right? will more than happily go in to bat for pretty much everything they've done in the last decade.

Bit mild, actually, compared to my posts on the Trump thread. Which are GLORIOUS! In any case, I'm pretty sure t69's got me on his "ignore" list, so it's not like I'm putting a gun to his head. I think.

this one's hitting me really hard again. the concept of a world without the fall is pretty mind boggling.....

keep having flashbacks to seeing them 3 nights in a row a couple of years back and thinking they were far better than any band deserves to be after four decades....autochip's gotta go down as one of their utter masterpieces right? will more than happily go in to bat for pretty much everything they've done in the last decade.

I like their more recent stuff as well. I’ve taken a bit of shit for liking Fall Heads Roll because “Blindness” was featured in some commercial. I couldn’t give less of a shit. It’s a properly ass-kicking song from an ass-kicking album from a band that’s been incredibly consistent for how completely inconsistent they’ve been personnel-wise.

The Wire has set up a Mark E Smith & The Fall Archive Portal. (I'm afraid you have to be a subscriber to access all its contents, though). Incidentally, here are some (just some!) of Savage Pencil's takes on MES through the years:

Are you still in touch with the Dudes [the American group for 2007 album Reformation Post TLC]?

Yeah. Tim [Presley]'s lost in Wales, int'he? I warned him. I bet they fuckin' ate him or summat. I saw him at the Green Man festival and he says, "I'm off to Cardiff for two weeks." I said, "Don't fucking go. The women are like fucking demons." And he was like, "Oh, Mark…" 'Cos I'm always filling them with these horror stories about Britain, but they never believe me. You can't warn guitarists, though.

I was playing guitar for White Fence, who are led by former Fall member Tim Presley, and he introduced us. When Mark came out to see us play in Manchester's Soup Kitchen, we were met with the warmth of an old friend. He visibly adored Tim. When the time came to stop the drinking and get the band back in the van, Mark protested, but we really had to leave. When we got to the van, Tim was nowhere to be seen. When he finally returned, he told us that Mark had grabbed him, and said they were "going to another pub, come on". Tim was also beaming. Like a good bad uncle, Mark had left him with a gift and some sterling advice: some yellow powder scrunched up in a piece of newspaper and the advice to not spend too much time in Wales, as they'll kill and eat you – and that Welsh women were demons.

Cate's music certainly has a dash of The Fall in it, and it's more so with DRINKS, her project with Tim Presley. If you don't have their album Hermits On Holiday (great fuckin' title!), seek it out at all costs.