Likewise, I think the new Hulk is the best one yet - he blends the best of both the Bana and Norton Hulks imo.

As for The Abomination I'd be surprised if he's referenced at all - he was a fairly disposable villain character in the same respect that I wouldn't expect The Avengers to reference Iron Monger, The Destroyer or Dr Zola. They were important to the individual films they appeared in but unless the figure into the plot at all I doubt they'll be referenced in any way here.

Likewise, I think the new Hulk is the best one yet - he blends the best of both the Bana and Norton Hulks imo.

As for The Abomination I'd be surprised if he's referenced at all - he was a fairly disposable villain character in the same respect that I wouldn't expect The Avengers to reference Iron Monger, The Destroyer or Dr Zola. They were important to the individual films they appeared in but unless the figure into the plot at all I doubt they'll be referenced in any way here.

I think theres definitely some characters that have served their purpose, but there's definitely loose ends with some others such as Thunderbolt Ross, Mr. Blue (The Leader) and The Destroyer. They were referenced and featured in the prelude comics that lead into the film so who knows? Maybe they're keeping the door open for future films too.

Likewise, I think the new Hulk is the best one yet - he blends the best of both the Bana and Norton Hulks imo.

As for The Abomination I'd be surprised if he's referenced at all - he was a fairly disposable villain character in the same respect that I wouldn't expect The Avengers to reference Iron Monger, The Destroyer or Dr Zola. They were important to the individual films they appeared in but unless the figure into the plot at all I doubt they'll be referenced in any way here.

I think they will reference him, maybe only in a small throw away line purhaps or a off the cuff joke at most.

I love the new hulk BUT would rather see the Norton Hulk just so it blends the films together. Of course that looses all meaning when the Banners look fuck all like each other

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I think theres definitely some characters that have served their purpose, but there's definitely loose ends with some others such as Thunderbolt Ross, Mr. Blue (The Leader) and The Destroyer. They were referenced and featured in the prelude comics that lead into the film so who knows? Maybe they're keeping the door open for future films too.

You must see a bit of Ross in this as Tony did approch him in TIH. Mr Blue was set up for the Hulk sequel which they have NO plans to make (Even though they've said there will deffo be Thor2 IM3 and CA2).

I love all the Marvel Studio films but TIH has a special place in my heart and would love to see a TIH2… but how would that film fit into the Universe post Avengers. Its not like Banner is on the run anymore.

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I think theres definitely some characters that have served their purpose, but there's definitely loose ends with some others such as Thunderbolt Ross, Mr. Blue (The Leader) and The Destroyer. They were referenced and featured in the prelude comics that lead into the film so who knows? Maybe they're keeping the door open for future films too.

You must see a bit of Ross in this as Tony did approch him in TIH. Mr Blue was set up for the Hulk sequel which they have now plans to make (Even though they've said there will deffo be Thor2 IM3 and CA2).

I love all the Marvel Studio films but TIH has a special place in my heart and would love to see a TIH2… but how would that film fit into the Universe post Avengers. Its not like Banner is on the run anymore.

They were talking about a tv series too, how the hell that would work with all these films in production I'll never know. It seems everytime a film or tv show doesn't break viewing/box office records they go for a revamp or change of direction straight away. Annoys the hell out of me. I loved TIH too and just hope they keep ties with that into the Avengers, regardless of whether Norton's there or not. A cameo by Gen. Ross, or a reference to the villains in the first film would probably be enough for me.

Well Feige mentioned the Hulk series in an interview recently and apparently it isn't canon with the films so it can be whatever they want it to really.

As for the rest of the films, with The Avengers in particular, there's a danger of overstuffing but still room for references in conversation. Even if it's a wink to the fans as long as it doesn't go over the heads up general audiences or breaks up the flow then I think it's a nice touch to keep that idea of it being a shared universe alive.

Well Feige mentioned the Hulk series in an interview recently and apparently it isn't canon with the films so it can be whatever they want it to really.

As for the rest of the films, with The Avengers in particular, there's a danger of overstuffing but still room for references in conversation. Even if it's a wink to the fans as long as it doesn't go over the heads up general audiences or breaks up the flow then I think it's a nice touch to keep that idea of it being a shared universe alive.

Well they did have that footage from Culver Univeristy on the monitors in IM2, and the chat about Blonski and Ross in 'the consultant' short, so I guess they'll thread parts of it back in. Whether they'll have those characters appear again is another thing.

To go slightly off current topic…What I liked to see for Avengers2 is for them to do Civil War. Spend the next lot of sequels for IM, Thor, CA etc (post Avengers) with the heroes in the public eye but with maybe the populace or government getting sick of em due to what ever reason, for it to come to ahead in Avengers2 where it’s the full Civil War story (well as close as they can get it). That way you can introduce small cameo heroes through the sequel films or maybe webisodes by Marvel and have it as hero on hero in the film. Hell I’d watch that. Also I think the hulk will be in the sequel films (Bar Thor2) in some respect but not get his own film. Which is weird cause I hear SPOILERS…Ruffalo/Hulk are amazing in the Avengers film. (This is purley based on Edgar Wright’s words and a few others I’ve read about speaking about seeing the film).

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Well Feige mentioned the Hulk series in an interview recently and apparently it isn't canon with the films so it can be whatever they want it to really.

As for the rest of the films, with The Avengers in particular, there's a danger of overstuffing but still room for references in conversation. Even if it's a wink to the fans as long as it doesn't go over the heads up general audiences or breaks up the flow then I think it's a nice touch to keep that idea of it being a shared universe alive.

I think their is bound to be referances to other characters and a few more introduced. Wasn't their an interview with Feige recently where he said that CA2 would be taking place straight after The Avengers? Taking that on I get the feeling this film will set up story arcs for the four main Avengers (sorry Renner and Johnasonn...that doesn't include you) to roll out in their next films.

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Well Feige mentioned the Hulk series in an interview recently and apparently it isn't canon with the films so it can be whatever they want it to really.

As for the rest of the films, with The Avengers in particular, there's a danger of overstuffing but still room for references in conversation. Even if it's a wink to the fans as long as it doesn't go over the heads up general audiences or breaks up the flow then I think it's a nice touch to keep that idea of it being a shared universe alive.

I think their is bound to be referances to other characters and a few more introduced. Wasn't their an interview with Feige recently where he said that CA2 would be taking place straight after The Avengers? Taking that on I get the feeling this film will set up story arcs for the four main Avengers (sorry Renner and Johnasonn...that doesn't include you) to roll out in their next films.

It would be gutting if this was the case. They made a big deal about casting Ruffalo and with all positive press about him after the premiere you'd assume he was popular enough for another go. Although with IM3 Thor 2 and CA2 all being made maybe they're just giving it a bit of time and not committing to too much.

Well Feige mentioned the Hulk series in an interview recently and apparently it isn't canon with the films so it can be whatever they want it to really.

As for the rest of the films, with The Avengers in particular, there's a danger of overstuffing but still room for references in conversation. Even if it's a wink to the fans as long as it doesn't go over the heads up general audiences or breaks up the flow then I think it's a nice touch to keep that idea of it being a shared universe alive.

I think their is bound to be referances to other characters and a few more introduced. Wasn't their an interview with Feige recently where he said that CA2 would be taking place straight after The Avengers? Taking that on I get the feeling this film will set up story arcs for the four main Avengers (sorry Renner and Johnasonn...that doesn't include you) to roll out in their next films.

It would be gutting if this was the case. They made a big deal about casting Ruffalo and with all positive press about him after the premiere you'd assume he was popular enough for another go. Although with IM3 Thor 2 and CA2 all being made maybe they're just giving it a bit of time and not committing to too much.

Maybe once he has been seen in action in Avengers and with slightly more control over himself (and therefore there being bigger options for what the hulk can do and what Banner can get into storywise) the situation will resolve itself because people wont automatically think in response to a suggested third film 'Oh (yawn) another film where he becomes the hulk and gets chased by the military while going all gooey over the the woman he loves but cant have because her father doesn't like him and his condition makes being in relationship tricky...zzzzzzzzz"?

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Well Feige mentioned the Hulk series in an interview recently and apparently it isn't canon with the films so it can be whatever they want it to really.

As for the rest of the films, with The Avengers in particular, there's a danger of overstuffing but still room for references in conversation. Even if it's a wink to the fans as long as it doesn't go over the heads up general audiences or breaks up the flow then I think it's a nice touch to keep that idea of it being a shared universe alive.

I think their is bound to be referances to other characters and a few more introduced. Wasn't their an interview with Feige recently where he said that CA2 would be taking place straight after The Avengers? Taking that on I get the feeling this film will set up story arcs for the four main Avengers (sorry Renner and Johnasonn...that doesn't include you) to roll out in their next films.

It would be gutting if this was the case. They made a big deal about casting Ruffalo and with all positive press about him after the premiere you'd assume he was popular enough for another go. Although with IM3 Thor 2 and CA2 all being made maybe they're just giving it a bit of time and not committing to too much.

Maybe once he has been seen in action in Avengers and with slightly more control over himself (and therefore there being bigger options for what the hulk can do and what Banner can get into storywise) the situation will resolve itself because people wont automatically think in response to a suggested third film 'Oh (yawn) another film where he becomes the hulk and gets chased by the military while going all gooey over the the woman he loves but cant have because her father doesn't like him and his condition makes being in relationship tricky...zzzzzzzzz"?

I hope; personally I really enjoyed TIH but their is a lot more they could do with him and it would appear that the majority of the marketing and positive press about this film does seem to lean towards Hulk's performance.

Beyond an Avengers 2 maybe they could get Hulk in with anothers film; a Captain America Vs Hulk type film?!...although I guess that kind of depends on how Avengers goes?!

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Wasn’t sure if this counts as a spoiler or not but just in case…

SPOILER!!

*whistles*

Early reviews are talking about a sequence at the end of the credits which sets something up very nicely. Having read a report of it (I was an idiot SO wish I hadn’t now but I’ve had a shit morning and I needed something to lighten my mood...and it could be bollocks) it sounds frickin’ awesome!!

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I just wish stuff like, I don't know, the slow & systemic CRATERING of this country could inspire the same call-to-arms as Batman casting

Well Feige mentioned the Hulk series in an interview recently and apparently it isn't canon with the films so it can be whatever they want it to really.

As for the rest of the films, with The Avengers in particular, there's a danger of overstuffing but still room for references in conversation. Even if it's a wink to the fans as long as it doesn't go over the heads up general audiences or breaks up the flow then I think it's a nice touch to keep that idea of it being a shared universe alive.

I think their is bound to be referances to other characters and a few more introduced. Wasn't their an interview with Feige recently where he said that CA2 would be taking place straight after The Avengers? Taking that on I get the feeling this film will set up story arcs for the four main Avengers (sorry Renner and Johnasonn...that doesn't include you) to roll out in their next films.

It would be gutting if this was the case. They made a big deal about casting Ruffalo and with all positive press about him after the premiere you'd assume he was popular enough for another go. Although with IM3 Thor 2 and CA2 all being made maybe they're just giving it a bit of time and not committing to too much.

Maybe once he has been seen in action in Avengers and with slightly more control over himself (and therefore there being bigger options for what the hulk can do and what Banner can get into storywise) the situation will resolve itself because people wont automatically think in response to a suggested third film 'Oh (yawn) another film where he becomes the hulk and gets chased by the military while going all gooey over the the woman he loves but cant have because her father doesn't like him and his condition makes being in relationship tricky...zzzzzzzzz"?

I hope; personally I really enjoyed TIH but their is a lot more they could do with him and it would appear that the majority of the marketing and positive press about this film does seem to lean towards Hulk's performance.

Beyond an Avengers 2 maybe they could get Hulk in with anothers film; a Captain America Vs Hulk type film?!...although I guess that kind of depends on how Avengers goes?!

Yeah I kind of agree there; while I've liked the previous Hulk films and am a fan of the character I feel that he may work better in an ensemble rather than solo films from now on.

I suspect he might fit into that kind of role in the same way that War Machine, Black Widow and Hawkeye are arguably better suited as supporting characters as they may not be able to carry their own films - that's a comment on the characters as opposed to the actors by the way.

For example both Don Cheadle and ScarJo are confirmed as reprising their roles in Iron Man 3 and if Captain America 2 has him as a member of SHIELD as has been rumoured then I wouldn't be surprised to see Jeremy Renner's Hawkeye turn up somewhere in that film as a supporting character or perhaps even as a partner agent to Cap.

Hulk is a character that could move seemlessly between the various films post-Avengers IMO to showcase both Banner and the creature itself and given that both previous Hulk films have met with mixed reactions (both critically and financially) that could be a better way to have him appear than take a risk on another solo film that could conceivably just end up being a nail in the series' coffin.

All that said if Marvel were to go for another solo Hulk film I'd still be interested to see it; just depends what they'd want to do with the character and story.

After seeing Captain America today have come to the conclusion that I much prefer the Marvel comics look of Cap to the Ultimate/Avengers movie version & I don't mean the Original Dark Navy 1 he wore in the film I'm talking the 1 with chainmail that he still sports now. Just doesn't look right without the cowl with little winglets on it or the the big old red boots & gloves.

After seeing Captain America today have come to the conclusion that I much prefer the Marvel comics look of Cap to the Ultimate/Avengers movie version & I don't mean the Original Dark Navy 1 he wore in the film I'm talking the 1 with chainmail that he still sports now. Just doesn't look right without the cowl with little winglets on it or the the big old red boots & gloves.

I would have been happy for him to continue wearing his WW2 suit from TFA personally, I like the new one but prefer the original film one overall. Gotta disagree about the comics one - it's fine in the context but on film would look even stranger than what Evans is sporting in The Avengers even taking into account Thor's garb. The WW2 one kept the hallmarks of the comics' designs but made it a bit more functional looking (and badass) which I think is the way to go when you're doing a comic book costume on film.

Don't know I like the chainmail top but especially the little winglets (spose you could incorporate a mini 2way into them?) AS FOR THE ORIGINAL THOR WHAT'S NOT TO LIKE(EXCEPT MAYBE THE BIG FUCK OFF! HELMET?) Gotta admit I never ever saw the point in that.

Off to see it tonight, had to go 3D as none of the 2D times suited but in a couple of (spoiler free) reviews I've read apparently the effect is used quite well so hopefully won't be jarring. If it is then I may try and catch a 2D show another day providing what I can make out looks good

One thing I've read are that there are 2 stings in this - a sequence during the closing credits and then a second post-credits scene, both of which are sequel bait apparently.