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After reading all the posts in here, I'm not seeing what will end any real debate over potential, or possible times. The only thing that can do that is hard numbers.

No one'* arguing the hard work that'* been done, and the vast improvements that have been made, and advances. The comments on the first page had predictions/conjections, etc on what the S1 may be capable of.

Some members thought those predictions were off given the data from this summer. The only way to prove whether a consensus is right, is to test, modify if need be, and test again. Discrediting a poster on this board by the mechanical abilities you may think they do or don't have, or by the number of people agreeing with a certain side, is not the way to win an argument.

More people around here probably think domestics are better then imports. That doesn't mean that it'* true or false, it'* merely their conviction. Except with Titanic Boosty. We KNOW that'* bad.

Threads like this happen all the time here.
For instance there was my shift point thread, my L67 TB thread, and others I can't remember.
I think this forum needs improvement in its debates. Too many times people are just out to prove the other wrong. They discredit make belittling comments etc.
There is defintiely some politics goin on here too.

My point is I can't say what I want on here. It just turns into lets see how to trap him.

I have NFC what you're getting at.

I can tell you that there has LONG been rumors of a 'conspiracy' amongst the Staff here, going back to before I was an Admin. Most of them started with Deathrat crying foul. I can also tell you that every current Moderator on this Forum will laugh at you for hinting at it for a good reason. It doesn't exist. The owner of this Forum, Jeff Keacher, is privy to EVERY topic posted in the Staff area(*) here. We hide nothing, nor do we attempt to.

If what you're referring to is something along these lines, you can put it aside. If you'd like Jeff Keacher'* personal reply to this (right here, in this topic), we can arrange that as well.

Listen I'm not even going to bother.
Theres plenty of reasons why I like this place and theres also a good amount of reasons why I don't. Since I'm not the majority I find myself holding my tongue all the time.
You gotta take the good with the bad but sometimes it just gets to ya.

Listen I'm not even going to bother.
Theres plenty of reasons why I like this place and theres also a good amount of reasons why I don't. Since I'm not the majority I find myself holding my tongue all the time.
You gotta take the good with the bad but sometimes it just gets to ya.