Gale, you claim they put a balloon in orbit to fool people with telescopes. Why didn't they just put an object shaped like the ISS up there to fool them better? The telescope you used is pretty common aperture and power. Must be thousands of them. Again, your theories and paranoia do not make sense. But then you are losing sleep - that can make you weird.

If they put something up there shaped like the ISS, i.e. a balloon, it would just start spinning and hence blinking on and off to the naked eye as it span in the Sun's light.

Of course there are many telescopes out there like mine but the ISS is not an easy object to look at and not everyone even bothers to try. Ideally you need computerized tracking and I don't know how well the system works for fast moving objects like the ISS never having used it myself.

Satellites don't spin around uncontrollably when they are in orbit, why would a model of the ISS? And even if they did they could put rocket boosters on it to keep it still. or simply make the object look the same no matter how it span. I've seen dozens of amateur photos of the ISS on the web.I suppose they all work for NASA? Madness.

Go and get in contact with a few other amateur astronomers on the web and ask them if they think the ISS is a flipping balloon hoax. If you can get ten other people seeing a balloon then I will believe you.

You have the exact persona of a conspiracy theorist. You are smart enough, but there's just something missing up there. Life just isn't exciting enough for you so you have to make stuff up or face another suicide attempt.

Satellites don't spin around uncontrollably when they are in orbit, why would a model of the ISS? And even if they did they could put rocket boosters on it to keep it still. or simply make the object look the same no matter how it span. I've seen dozens of amateur photos of the ISS on the web.I suppose they all work for NASA? Madness.

Go and get in contact with a few other amateur astronomers on the web and ask them if they think the ISS is a flipping balloon hoax. If you can get ten other people seeing a balloon then I will believe you.

You have the exact persona of a conspiracy theorist. You are smart enough, but there's just something missing up there. Life just isn't exciting enough for you so you have to make stuff up or face another suicide attempt.

I take the following quote as being libellous. You said the following:

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Life just isn't exciting enough for you so you have to make stuff up or face another suicide attempt.

You are the one albie who isn't smart enough and has to mouth people off.

Satellites don't spin around uncontrollably when they are in orbit, why would a model of the ISS? And even if they did they could put rocket boosters on it to keep it still. or simply make the object look the same no matter how it span. I've seen dozens of amateur photos of the ISS on the web.I suppose they all work for NASA? Madness.

Go and get in contact with a few other amateur astronomers on the web and ask them if they think the ISS is a flipping balloon hoax. If you can get ten other people seeing a balloon then I will believe you.

You have the exact persona of a conspiracy theorist. You are smart enough, but there's just something missing up there. Life just isn't exciting enough for you so you have to make stuff up or face another suicide attempt.

Yes satellites do behave like this in orbit albie, it is published fact despite your own short-sighted misconceptions.

During times of solar activity all satellites have a tendency to spin and I've seen this happen myself during solar storms.

I never said put rocket boosters on a balloon. I said put them on a model of the ISS so it wouldn't spin.

I see you are avoding all my more pertinent points as usual.

get more evidence. Things like fake space stations and problems with the laws of physics would be noticed by vast numbers of people. Not just by you.

That is the main and damning argument against you. Why do you not see that?

Okay then albie, so how do you get a 40 metre diameter 'model' of the ISS into orbit?

And it still doesn't explain why the ISS looks perfectly round through an Earth bound telescope.

It is quite possible that many people have noticed that something appears to be quite wrong with NASA and the laws of physics its just that there are very few dedicated specialists out there who are prepared to speak out about it.

>>Okay then albie, so how do you get a 40 metre diameter 'model' of the ISS into orbit?

The same way we get satellites up there, or are you saying satellites are all fake too? And it wouldn't have to be 40 metres. Just make it smaller and position it closer. Or do an Ikea version and build it in space. I still don't think people will be fooled and I still think if you saw it with a relatively cheap unit and set up then hundreds would also have seen it. You haven't proven to me that the set up you used is rare and in the hands of few people. That's the keystone to your entire argument. Where are all the people crying foul? Go and find them. Go to an amateur astronomy forum and post your opinions on this.

>>Okay then albie, so how do you get a 40 metre diameter 'model' of the ISS into orbit?

The same way we get satellites up there, or are you saying satellites are all fake too? And it wouldn't have to be 40 metres. Just make it smaller and position it closer. Or do an Ikea version and build it in space. I still don't think people will be fooled and I still think if you saw it with a relatively cheap unit and set up then hundreds would also have seen it. You haven't proven to me that the set up you used is rare and in the hands of few people. That's the keystone to your entire argument. Where are all the people crying foul? Go and find them. Go to an amateur astronomy forum and post your opinions on this.