Olaf - Thanks heaps for the info on the Coyote. one of the reason I have enjoyed the Coyote over the years is its adaptability to various loads. From fully stuffed for a month long offroad sojourn to lightly loaded for a simple overnighter. As stated i sold my old GL and back to the states in a few weeks for some gear shopping.

When lightly loaded on a simple overnighter i would fasten the two top compression straps down to their maximum,

With the new modification of the Beavertail is there less compression available in the straps before the straps bottom out? The above pic has the empty bag folded onto itself and compressed down to the maximum to where the buckles hit the seat. The new bag looks great when loaded more substantially my concern is when loaded more light? Any insight?

The beavertail feature will function almost identically with respect to gathering the top of the bag - and it's even better for load compression than the previous two separate straps.

Plus, all the 2013 bags look BITCHIN'! More refined, finished and detailed.

One last, but important question: when will these products be available at the local dealers in Europe?

We are just beginning to get our first production units now. Most of them are heading right out the door to various shows and reviews. By February 1, we should be sending first orders to international distributors worldwide, which means they should be available by mid-February.

Contact your favorite dealer/distributor and ask them to place an order. We're shipping in the order we receive purchase orders.

I remember installing that gray Coyote at Rawhyde, CA!
Thanks for reaching out to us here on the thread, especially with a pic of your bike. I think your request is a perfect one and I have a solution design to test. Can you tell me if you still anchor the bag in the back, by looping the strap under the rack rails? I will PM you some details once I show it to the rest of the boys at GL and they ensure it's dialed.

Had a blast up north with OlafofOregon! It was our first time showing the Giant Loop brand together and we supported ADVrider inmate, toowheels, who is our Canadian Distributor. toowheels company is called MotoOverlandDesign, aka MOD or MotoOverland.com.

We showed at the Abbotsford TRADEX building, where the Vancouver Motorcycle show is held. Guys and ladies who attended there saw all kinds of new product shown by MOTO industry manufacturers, including ours. The bustling energy was very exciting since there were many riders seeking dual sport and adventure type bikes, and their accessories.

Our booth had two bikes, one nicely kitted 530 EXC from Colin at MX1canada.com, sporting Mitas Tires, and the other was toowheels's daily driver, a F800GS mounted with MOD skid, MOD skid mount tool box, MOD back rack and an MOD big kickstand foot. We had our new Siskiyou panniers and a Fandango on the F800 and on the EXC wore a Coyote, sporting its new QD Cinch ring and Beavertail, stuffed with Dry Pods. We strapped the ZigZag on the EXC handle bars and it looked ready to carry important small items.

We had lots of folks very interested in the new features offered by the GL13 lineup, since they had such success with their older Giant Loop saddlebag. In fact, I received a load of ride photos and footage from "Kiwi Dave" and his guys, that bushwacked across the MacKenzie Trail, using GL Coyote and Mojavi to pack their loads! An awesome story to share...

Olaf - Thanks heaps for the info on the Coyote. one of the reason I have enjoyed the Coyote over the years is its adaptability to various loads. From fully stuffed for a month long offroad sojourn to lightly loaded for a simple overnighter. As stated i sold my old GL and back to the states in a few weeks for some gear shopping.

When lightly loaded on a simple overnighter i would fasten the two top compression straps down to their maximum,

With the new modification of the Beavertail is there less compression available in the straps before the straps bottom out? The above pic has the empty bag folded onto itself and compressed down to the maximum to where the buckles hit the seat. The new bag looks great when loaded more substantially my concern is when loaded more light? Any insight?

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Originally Posted by OlafofOregon

The beavertail feature will function almost identically with respect to gathering the top of the bag - and it's even better for load compression than the previous two separate straps.

Plus, all the 2013 bags look BITCHIN'! More refined, finished and detailed.

Thank you for the reply. However can you answer the direct question I asked above: " With the new modification of the Beavertail is there less compression available in the straps before the straps bottom out?" as that is a concern of mine. If there is less can you provide a ballpark answer as to how much less? "BITCHIN looking" is not a concern of mine. Again, thank you for your time.

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Thank you for the reply. However can you answer the direct question I asked above: " With the new modification of the Beavertail is there less compression available in the straps before the straps bottom out?" as that is a concern of mine. If there is less can you provide a ballpark answer as to how much less? "BITCHIN looking" is not a concern of mine. Again, thank you for your time.

The answer to this question is yes. On a GL13 Coyote with Beavertail, the QD Cinch Ring straps bottom out before the Beavertail is cinched completely tight, on top of an empty Coyote. The Beavertail and Cinch Ring together, are as long/longer as the base of the Coyote, to begin with, now add to that the length of the QD buckles.

The quick access convenience of QD Cinch Ring straps and additional stowage/load control benefits of the Beavertail, greatly out weigh the loss of using the Cinch straps to secure an empty top roll. I always carry a couple extra cam buckle straps in my kit and use the short one to compress the rolled top of my empty Coyote. Now, with the new QD Cinch Ring straps and Beavertail, I will use the Beavertail to roll up the empty top, Cinch Ring, QD buckles and untensioned straps, looping my spare strap under the base and over the top of the Beavertail, then cinch it down to its self. Should be a perfectly secure package, as usual.

Thank you for the reply. However can you answer the direct question I asked above: " With the new modification of the Beavertail is there less compression available in the straps before the straps bottom out?" as that is a concern of mine. If there is less can you provide a ballpark answer as to how much less? "BITCHIN looking" is not a concern of mine. Again, thank you for your time.

Hey team ftb,

Now that I have a sample of the 2013 gear I can hopefully help answer your question.

As snowhawk jockey said there is not quite as much compression available. However on playing with different configurations I've found that by sliding the buckles up to the top of the ring and moving the new keeper straps out from between the buckles and bag at the bottom you can get it down to about 3". By folding over the top and clipping it down as you have done it looks like it works well.

I *think* this will still work for you but as suggested you may want to use another strap to fully compress it if needed. The QR buckles on the other hand will make getting in and out of the bag MUCH easier! You also now have an external area under the beavertail to stash a jacket or the like.

I have a 2013 Coyote sample now so if you have more questions...ask away!

Thanks for getting FTB some additional details on the GL13 Coyote.
Getting enough time to figure out all the ways the 2013 design features work is a big priority for me. Need to retain my own sample to play with, so you know where I am stopping this afternoon!

sweet! got a back image so we can see how it attaches to pipe or bike???

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Thanks GB! The Super Tenere comes stock with a substantial exhaust heat shield, which appears to provide adequate coverage for the Siskiyou Panniers, although we have not yet had the opportunity to test with that particular machine.

However, the Panniers include two of our new Hot Springs Heat Shields (laser-cut, heavy guage aluminum) , which would no doubt provide even more protection.

I've got racks, and have Rotopax storage cases on each side of the bike (tools, emergency supplies/first aid, air pump, tubes, etc. in them). The total width I have back there is 25 5/8 inches, which needs to be spanned. Can the pannier bags handle a span that wide?

(Yes, I realize this makes the rear of the bike wide for trail riding. But it's no wider than my FJR with saddle bags...not that I offroad THAT bike... ;) )

Just wanted to day that I had another product and only used it once, then switched to your bag system and love it.
The only fault I have had if the strap has melted a bid by my exhaust pipe but seems to be holding. Might have been my fault the way it was tied to the rear foot pegs, But I can't be sure lol.
If I can make a suggestion on the inner stuff sacks/ dry bags to make them compression sacks also. I use one compression sack in the top and I can put more gear in it then a normal/ your bag. Maybe just one or two of them an option to buy... just an idea. I know you can buy after market ones (I have one) but yours would be made to fit.
Food for thought on how to get more money out of us

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The answer to this question is yes. On a GL13 Coyote with Beavertail, the QD Cinch Ring straps bottom out before the Beavertail is cinched completely tight, on top of an empty Coyote. The Beavertail and Cinch Ring together, are as long/longer as the base of the Coyote, to begin with, now add to that the length of the QD buckles.

The quick access convenience of QD Cinch Ring straps and additional stowage/load control benefits of the Beavertail, greatly out weigh the loss of using the Cinch straps to secure an empty top roll. I always carry a couple extra cam buckle straps in my kit and use the short one to compress the rolled top of my empty Coyote. Now, with the new QD Cinch Ring straps and Beavertail, I will use the Beavertail to roll up the empty top, Cinch Ring, QD buckles and untensioned straps, looping my spare strap under the base and over the top of the Beavertail, then cinch it down to its self. Should be a perfectly secure package, as usual.

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Hey team ftb,

Now that I have a sample of the 2013 gear I can hopefully help answer your question.

As snowhawk jockey said there is not quite as much compression available. However on playing with different configurations I've found that by sliding the buckles up to the top of the ring and moving the new keeper straps out from between the buckles and bag at the bottom you can get it down to about 3". By folding over the top and clipping it down as you have done it looks like it works well.I *think* this will still work for you but as suggested you may want to use another strap to fully compress it if needed. The QR buckles on the other hand will make getting in and out of the bag MUCH easier! You also now have an external area under the beavertail to stash a jacket or the like.

I have a 2013 Coyote sample now so if you have more questions...ask away!

Thanks,

Dave

Snowhawk Jockey & Toowheels thank you both for the detailed answers to my inquiry on compression capabilities. Hell you even supplied solutions to my dilemma and thats very much appreciated. Thank you!!! Weighing up now whether I get my 3rd Coyote (had both the original and first trucker tarp model) or try the Kreiga Overlander system, decisions decisions.

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I love the product, but do you have a quick disconnect system? My sport saddle bags can but undone with clips and put back on without adjusting it again.

I just don't like adjusting it everytime I put it on.

Thanks for riding with the Coyote Saddlebag! Love the pink bike! We have had customers cut their webbing straps and thread side-release buckles on to create a quick release system. Just be EXTRA super careful to make sure everything's tight - and stays that way when you ride. We can't recommend modifying our attachments, because we know the way they're constructed will hold up to just about anything. Ride while you can!