helmets with (chin guard extension)

do 'leisurelakes' bikes sell these ? and how much are they approx...
ive gone over the handlebars a couple of times now so it mite be wise to think about one of these helmets ? i need a girlie one too...(well not too girlie)...

Be aware anne that the chinbars are not included in testing, there are anecdotes ( not real data) about the chinbars on those met helmets fracturing and they will increase tthe rotational impact risk. Also none that I have seen have polystyrene in the chinbar ecept the casco viper - no poly = no impact absorbtion.

Mptorcycle helmets have developed so the chinbar is right next to your chin when the helmet is on purely to reduce the rotational impact risk and the risk of your facce hitting the chinbar hard as the helmet rotates.

A full-on full-face helmet will not be too comfortable to ride in for a long time, or even a short time if you're working hard. The Specialized Deviant is probably the best vented option out there.

Lighter-weight alternatives will be more comfortable but will not offer anywhere near the same amount of protection. I personally own a Met Parachute which mostly gets used without the chin guard and I have a proper full-facer for anything properly extreme like 4X or DH. Sometimes I choose to run the chin-piece on the Parachute too although I am well aware of the minimal extra protection and assosciated risks. Its nice to have options.

@ TJ "they will increase tthe rotational impact risk"
but thats true of all helmets to an extent, and then you've got the whole argument about whether people wearing helmets take more risks...

If you go over the bars your going to land on your hands first, not your chin.

Crap.

Have a look to see how many mx, or motorbike riders wear open face helmets (with good reason). If you're going to wear a helmet you need one that offers some face protection, otherwise I don't see the point. I always land on my face.

You may 'feel' its more reassuring, but its completely pointless in a real life situation. You will end up with a damaged chin from the chin bit and a twisted neck from it rotating.

Mmmm , not sure about that , I had a nasty off a few years ago at Sherwood pines on one of the dual descender courses wearing a Giro switchblade and landed face first all i got was a bit of mud scraped into my face by the chin gaurd.
I'm pretty sure that wearing a standard helmet would've resulted in lost facial skin at the very least as the crash was enough to snap one of the shift levers on my xtr shifters.

yeh the helmets above are called MET-parashoot i think, can find them one crc, its simular to what ron has but tbh i think there more dangerous as they could easily break and probaly go straight through your windpipe lol

Also none that I have seen have polystyrene in the chinbar ecept the casco viper - no poly = no impact absorbtion.

And the giro switchblade tj.
To be fair i think the switchblade was about the best XC lid with a chin guard. The chin was bolt on and padded with foam.

I wouldn't take much notice about TJ. He's a bit of an anti helmet, plus the chin guard must have a use, otherwise motorcycle helmet wouldn't have one (oh and I have seen a friend of mine breaking a tooth during a fall).

Anyway back to topic. The deviant carbon is the best bet at the moment.

Personally I'd go for a more substantial full-face rather than the Met (there've been a few threads about these in the past with varying opinions). I tend to wear a pi$$pot most of the time and full-face occasionally for d/h (as I ride to the trails I have a ladies Dakine Drafter hydration pack with a carry flap for a full-face). Of course on Saturday I was wearing neither . . . you live and learn, eh?

The ambient test helmet shall be subjected to the chin bar impact test.

So yes, if there is a chin bar, it will be tested.

It would be interesting to see if the MET Parachute meets this standard (cannot find info on the MET site). If it does then we can all finally know if a parachute is as good as a proper full facer. The Specialized one linked to above appears to meet the standard.

You may 'feel' its more reassuring, but its completely pointless in a real life situation. You will end up with a damaged chin from the chin bit and a twisted neck from it rotating.

If you go over the bars your going to land on your hands first, not your chin

Is any of that based on fact?

I have a Met parachute and wore it in the pyrenees this summer. I found it light, comfortable for all day riding and the chin guard definitely provides some moderate protection (although in no way should it be considered a full face helmet) I face planted whilst riding of a 4 ft high terrace and DIDN'T LAND ON MY HANDS. My face was what hit the very rocky ground first. I am 15st and the helmet did not break. It did not "penetrate my windpipe" or "rotate" in any way. What it did do is save my grid from a mullering.

I have read so many negative comments about these helmets from people who DON'T OWN ONE and think that this is predominantly based on the fact that they look different. I personally probably wouldn't wear mine for the majority of riding I do but they definitely do provide some additional face protection.