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Magic penetration runes became obsolete with this patch. New caster pen+ item with great stats/buildup, plus nerfing of aegis means you won't ever need more penetration that what you can get from talent+exhaust+newitem+boots

You dont need magic pen boots. Mercury treads ftw. Neither do you need Guise. Not enough item slots to get mid tier items when you want to maximize your damage. I use 9th talent + runes + abyssal (for negative MR on people with less than 50 MR). I dont get guise or void or magic pen boots.

You dont need magic pen boots. Mercury treads ftw. Neither do you need Guise. Not enough item slots to get mid tier items when you want to maximize your damage. I use 9th talent + runes + abyssal (for negative MR on people with less than 50 MR). I dont get guise or void or magic pen boots.

Guise is not a mid tier item

It's your very first god damn item.

You can leave the base with the mini-mana regen item AND the mini-hp regen item AND A POTION OF YOUR CHOICE HOLY SHIT

This item pretty much completely destroy any reason to get Codex (which is a bad item, agreed) but this simply outclasses it ON EVERY SINGLE ASPECT

Are you crazy, this item is pretty much core first item on p. much all nukers in the game.

I agree, guise is nasty. I guess there is no need to stack magic pen runes. I still suggest that you go for marks though, they have high magic pen but low AP and casters don't really need any physical dmg attributes (though armor pen helps for lasthits and laning phase and such)

You dont need magic pen boots. Mercury treads ftw. Neither do you need Guise. Not enough item slots to get mid tier items when you want to maximize your damage. I use 9th talent + runes + abyssal (for negative MR on people with less than 50 MR). I dont get guise or void or magic pen boots.

You can always sell it lategame. In LoL you get like 75% of the items original cost (minus gold items i think, those you get 50% for)

Thats exactly what I mean. You dont have many options on marks and Magic Pen is now primary on marks so it is still better to go Magic Pen on marks and AP on glyphs that AP on both... Simply because you will get something like 10AP or less from the marks. And by doing this you can skip on the magic pen boots and get the mercury treads which are way better (40 magic resist vs 20 magic pen not mentioning the OMG reduce stuns by 40%).