Philly Future

April 20, 2006

PA Senate Debate: Lancaster 3

The debate itself was great. But there were stupid rules. Like not being able to take any audio, video or still photography unless you were a credentialed reporter. Fuck you too. I went inside the building carrying a heavy box of Chuck Pennacchio brochures in my hands with my camera bag over one shoulder and my camera across my chest. Two cops stop me and tell me that I can't bring my camera into the debate. I tell them I'll put it away later. They give me a look as if they want me to put it away right in front of them. And then I say that I can't, you know, with this heavy box of stuff in my hands and all. Whatever. And I put the box down and lay out the brochures on the table and people start grabbing them up as quickly as I'm putting out another stack. I head down the hallway to the gymnasium to get a good seat before they're all taken and I'm stopped again, looks like a PR person. She asks if I'm a member of the press [I still hadn't put away my camera because I wanted to get inside quickly]. For a moment there, I think about lying about it to give myself unfettered access all arond the debate floor. But, I didn't, and told her I'd put my camera away as I got to my seat [which I did].

There is an additional rule against using the official debate footage. The campaigns were not to use any of the video footage from the debate of their opponents [or even snippets of themselves?]. PCN talkshow host and professor at Franklin & Marshall [the host of the debate] Terry Madonna had this to say:

"We didn't want this forum in an academic environment to be used by the campaigns," Madonna said. "We are not in the business of helping people win or lose elections."

Now what kind of bullshit is that? What the hell is the fucking point of a debate if you can't show it to the public? While the debate will be re-aired on Lancaster's NBC affiliate in a couple weeks in two parts and perhaps nationally via CSPAN [sweet], it's not easy to get people to sit down and watch almost two hours of debate. Back and forth exchanges on an issue here and there are more effective methinks. But what the hell do I know, I'm not the one pulling strings behind the scenes like Madonna. His hair seemed weirdly dark to me, sorta like he used some of that spary hair stuff, anybody else notice that?

So, I don't have any photos of the debate. I did reel off a bunch afterwards though once the debate was technically over.

There are already three good play by play liveblogs of the debate, so I won't go into every detail. From Politics Philly, Above Average Jane [who watched the first hour] and Factesque who even adds her own in-line color [awesome] commentary while live blogging; eRobin must be one quick typer.

The AP reported that the crowd was about 500 people attended the debate. There was a walkway above the debate floor where the candidates walked along before the debate. I'm assuming they met upstairs to go over the ground rules and draw for the order of opening/closing statements and the order of questioning. First to walk to the doorway leading behind the stage floor was Bob Casey. A round of "Casey" chants came up from the crowd. Closely behind was Alan Sandals who got some shrieks from the crowd. The same person [or few people] kept on shrieking through the debate. It was such an annoying hi-pitched shriek. A few seconds after Alan was Chuck. The crowd wasn't reacting at first, but then he hit the halfwaypoint to the door and then we all went wild. A huge contingient [more than I had met earlier and more than I had anticipated] got up to a roaring standing applause. He held up his fist in the air to us as he rounded the corner to the door. We kept cheering for another few seconds. The people on the floor with their Casey stickers on looked absolutely stunned at our enthusiasm. I really think they were shocked at the response Chuck got, fuckers never knew what hit 'em.

It's sickening that Chuck's support comes from a group of people who have nothing better to do than rant and rave through the blogs. The candidate that you support is unrealistic and outrageous, it's almost as if he is running a Chucky Cult!

Casey is a Coward!

I've made my decision for the primary vote...The Sandals Campaign isn't out bad-mouthing other candidates or campaigns as Chucks people are, and they are enthusiastic because they know that Alan is going to stand up for what is right, just as he has been doing in courtrooms for over 20 years. Chuck, you are going down!

Let's see you inspect more bird crap on your car in Mt. Airy. Or were you looking in the mirror to make sure you weren't sweaty!

Did you know I got inside info that a Sandals volunteer is a student of Chucks!! How funny is that! Thanks JOE!

Jenna-
Are you kidding? Please tell me you're kidding here. I see you've signed onto Alan's thought process that Chuck's ideas are unreasonable. The notion of a progressive tax rate for the top percentage is an old notion which thrived under Ike; then the rate was 90%+ and the rich still got richer. You think that it is reasonable that 25% of the population is in poverty and that it is unreasonable to mandate a federal living wage above $9 to lift people out from poverty? You sound unreasonable to me.

Maybe you haven't been paying close enough attention to Alan's campaign and how he speaks of Bob and Chuck. Oh wait, yes you are, you just called Chuck unreasonable, isn't that bad-mouthing? Chuck's been working grassroots for 33 years, I think it's great that Alan's been practicing law for 20 years; does Alan being a lawyer mean that Chuck doesn't stand up for what is right? Is that your reasoning?

And what the fuck are you talking about in regards to Mt. Airy? And I have some "inside info" about the Sandals campaign too. Ooooohh. What are you, in 3rd grade?

I would love to hear about your inside info on the Sandals campaign sometime, feel free to shoot me an e-mail, maybe you could change my mind, and my ARMY could then back Chuck, but until then, i doubt it.

Why do you think Alan changed his views on abortion from limited parental consent which is a conservative viewpoint to no consent nor notification?

Here was my reply....
Have you ever changed your mind when you learn new information??? Or do you always support terrorists??? Many companies do, if you knew that they did, would you purchase their product?? That doesn't make him a bad guy because he realized his wrong and corrected it! For the record....my dad would have killed me if I had mentioned abortion in his presence!!! Not all teenage girls have college professors for parents! How would you feel if you were a politician and a young girl were killed on your watch???? Better yet, how would you feel if you were a teenager, and you had to face your abusive father to tell him that you wanted an abortion... think about it! That puts blood on your hands, Chuck's hands and All of the supporters hands! Maybe someday you and I will see eye to eye on a candidates issues, but not now my friend! Chuck is still just a Marginal Candidate!
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Whether Alan Sandals changed his position or not, who cares....we all have changed our minds about one thing or another in life..that's what life is about, making a more informed decision, as you learn more! Is this the best dirt you can dig up??? You must do better, I have more and it will ALL be revealed along the way...stay tuned!

Hilarious Jenna. But what does terrorism have to do with things? Your correlation is pretty wacky. The problem with Alan changing his mind is he did it for the money, PAC money. Which other lobbyists will Alan roll over for?

None, but maybe you should ask Chuck how much he really cares! Could it be that Chuck's exaggerations of his campaigning procedures, have gone to his head??? Chuck is a NOBODY, just another college professor who is doesn't even care enough for his students education to take attendance in class!

Chuck has exaggereated so much that he has started to believe himself, and that is what SCARES me!

My point was...we all have changed our mind at one point in time or another, based on gaining NEW or more accurate information! I don't know what really happened and neither do you, once again someone else (Yee) sucked in by Chuck the Shop-Vac! Is he running a cult?

Jenna, where has Chuck exaggerated? Point them out, but don't just make accusations that you just spit out and your ad hominem attacks on Chuck aren't the way to go about things.

I actually do know some things that you obviously don't, but that really isn't your concern, you seem to be intent on smearing Chuck and his statewide effort. I'm not concerned with smearing Alan, he and Chuck are running against each other on issues which I find refreshing [with a few shots here and there both ways, but that's gonna happen] as opposed to Bob's stealth campaign. Let's keep this on point.

Cheer Alan on in his efforts, I'm fine with that. You don't need to just whine and whine and whine here about things that are irrelevant to the thread. Your comments are meandering all over the place with no grounding to my post nor my responses back to you so, if this trolling behavior continues, you'll see your comments moderated. Constructive criticism is one thing, what you're doing is beyond that. Please just take a step back for a sec; we're not enemies here, let's have a discussion.