Our Troops do NOT Protect Our Freedom and We Should Stop Thanking Them for Doing So

lot of armchair "warriors" on here who constantly trash talk some of the greatest men and women you will ever know.

i thank them everyday for what they put themselves through and what their families go through for the simple fact without them there is no us.

we could not sit here and run our mouths til our hearts are content there is a price to be paid for that and honestly

reading this thread has sickened me to my stomach.

yet another reason i will always be partisan the same people who create threads like this are the same people who go around burning the greatest
symbol of this country and often the last thing many americans who have fallen will ever get to see,

the american flag the red white and blue honor courage and the resolve to stand by our brothers and sisiters who are not here when they want to be.

You mean if people were destroying a city and other peoples properties, like in LA in the 90's or London right now? Yes, I would try to prevent
idiots from destroying other peoples property. If you are talking about a civil war in this country, then on that point you are probably wrong. Many
in the armed forces draw a very clear line between fighting in a foreign country against an insurgency or a foreign military and picking a side in a
civil war in their own country. My friends in the military are from all over the country, I doubt that everyone would agree to take certain actions
within the US. I've got country friends, city friends, from the east, west, Puerto Rico, all over. There would definitely be some deserters no
matter where in the US the action were taking place.

Contrary to popular belief, the higher echelon you get to in combat arms the more down home American value type guys you come into contact with. The
highest level operators are much more the survivalist, hunting, fishing, redneck, beer and pickups type and much less the establishment type. If you
think these highly trained and extremely dangerous guys are going to turn their weapons on Americans, maybe you need to meet some of them.
Also, those of you who have not been in combat probably don't realize the zeal with which the enemy fights us, we allow them to fulfill their destiny
and they allow us ours. Men in combat are exactly where they want to be, on both sides. Many of these crybabies talking about PTSD and all the
terrible things they had to do, probably never did anything.

YOu apparently do not know much about the military way of life..living pay check to pay check. Umm NO he didnt do if for the money..he did it to earn
a living and provide for his family instead of living on welfare like the majority of people in our hometown. DO NOT twist my words Sir.

No one joins the military to get rich. That is laughable. They join the military for many reasons, to pay for college, to support their families, to
learn a trade, and some even do it to serve their country.

The Soldiers job is to follow orders. They fight wars. That's what their trained to do. It is our job to police our government as citizens. They
fight for us, if we don't want to be in that war then we need to stop it. At which we have miserably failed in doing..

As for the assumptions, based on what I have read. It seems that people expect soldiers to simply pick up their rifles and turn on the government
because the corporations might be (probably are) running the show. Do you know how utterly insane that is?

People expect soldiers to magically bend to their will and do as they believe is right. Which is insane. You cannot mentally dictate what the armed
forces should do.

And I think we would see how much the armed forces protect our freedom if we simply ceased to have a military.

This thread is disgusting, and I totally agree with you. I never joined the military, and probably never will. but I wouldn't dare insult those who
willingly walk into a situation that they will probably disagree with, yet still continue on.
They are braver people than myself.

Another sick pathetic military bashing thread, probably authored by someone that never served a day in his life, but of course he'll reply with 'he
knows people' in and 'has family members in', yet never served a day himself.
OP, your attempt at military bashing is pathetic
Thread fail

You are right about one thing...
We solders do not do what we do... to protect your personal freedoms... we don't give a rats ass about your right to guzzle beer smoke pot or post
tirades on the internet...

True most of us understand the larger picture... we fight to preserve our way of life... but when your down in the dirt... sent to someplace you never
heard of before... scared out of your freaking mind because everyone is shooting at you.... were not thinking about your personal rights and
freedoms... were too busy trying to stay alive while watching the backs of our buddies....

I never asked to be thanked, never asked for your pats on the back.... I did what I had to do,what I was ordered to do... it's not like I had any say
in international policy making...Everyone in the field is there following orders... you do as ordered or are shot for desertion...cut and dry...

I'm sorry you find it offensive that we Air, Navy, Army and Marines just don't give a damn about "wcitizen" personal freedoms... truth is it never
once crossed my mind...If you don't like that fact talk to your politicians, if you want a warm and fuzzy branch of the service then check out the
peace corps... but don't bring your crap here cause ya know what...We Troops do NOT Protect "wcitizen" personal ideal of Freedom... mostly were just
trying not to get killed

Another America hating liberal star and flag fest.......wow, another one? Get some new material and get back to us who have served or are actively
serving now cause your rhetoric is getting old. Of course I kind of understand it since none of ya had the intestinal fortitude to join and try and
make a difference. Here's an idea, maybe since ya don't have it in you to step up and do that, maybe run for office and make the changes you
want.......nah, what was I thinking, you'd rather bitch from the safety of your chair while not doing a damn thing. Epic thread fail for anyone with
common decency or half a brain.......

You are entitled to your opinion, because the blood of many soldiers gave you that right.

Also it is a contradiction.

So did he do it for money?

Or for my freedom?

I am guessing $$$.

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Well if you read my words and not put your own slant on them you would've noticed I said he did it to earn his money. In the sentence above I posted
he didnt want to end up on welfare and be a drain on society. He took the only job he could find and that was with the army. He was daggum good at it
too. And I am and always will be proud of him and his fellow soldiers who continuously sacrifice so we can enjoy our lives.

I am saddened that you see things so black or white. We will never agree on this. We dont have to. I of course would love for you to stop by your
local VA Hospital, look at the men and women without arms, legs etc and tell them what you posted above. Better yet, visit Arlington and read your
post out loud. I doubt you have the guts to do it. All is easy in cyber land.

A few americans needs to understand that there's not a single country in the world where their 'people in general' likes the USA foreign policies,
you probly don't care but its maybe the problem.

A good way to understand the situation is by taking for example Jersey Shore, they all think they are the real deal while in reality 'people in
general' laugh about them. In reality Ronny or Snooky are just having issue with their self esteem, they know inside they are loosers but the cameras
compensate for their lack of.

Those comment are not necessarily aimed at usa ATS users since we are not ' people in general'.

And I am and always will be proud of him and his fellow soldiers who continuously sacrifice so we can enjoy our lives.

That is it though. These days, their sacrifice has nothing to do with our lives! Whether they take up the job for money or because they want to
make a difference isn't the point, its that what they're fighting for isn't actually our freedom!

A lot of the soldiers returning home suffer from PTSD. They can't find decent jobs due to lack of education. Government pension isn't enough for
them to survive. 1 in 4 war veterans commit suicide. Our troops are getting used by the elites for senseless wars...

I support the troops but I don't support the elites using them. Don't join the military thinking you are being patriotic. That's what TPTB want
you to think and possibility of you dying being justified. The more people there are to sacrifice in the name of freedom, there will be more
senseless wars illegally engaged by these war mongers.

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