Very long intro but including escape of punishment at the murderscene, and hypergrainy. For lovers of forensics, strangers, detectives.

The classroom at 5:35 scared Pezer, which marks one of very few occasions Ive seen fear in his face. Ill stipulate that it didn't and doesn't scare me, it is in fact contemporary Amsterdam in a very mild and friendly form. No burquas or kalashnikovs in sight. Democratic cities are hard cities. A town can only become rational to such a degree after prolonged political insanity.

I wish they also made a documentary on Osho’s earlier years, like his family and social environment, his childhood, and his younger years. This may have been even more insightful. Here’s a speculative, but rather interesting quote I came across by one of his disenchanted former students:

Rajneesh was the son of an ambitious Jain businessman, and he was more like his father than he ever realized. Rajneesh's enlightenment was overlaid on top of a mind attuned to business and making money. Personality is genetically transferable, just as height, weight, and eye color.

I do think that there are some people who are born to be great manipulators, and I think Chandra/Rajneesh/Bhagwan/Osho may have been that kind of person. ————-Osho as a “world’s biggest pump”, lol, a good notice by UG Krishnamirti. Osho sure was a pimp, and not only that. Speaking of UG (who’s not in the doc.), I get his bitterness towards Osho (and Jiddu as well, among other so called gurus), but I wish he did more with his own life than just pull out and give up like that in bitterness. Oh well.

I think most people are already aware of these scams, but it’s interesting to hear from both sides of the argument as well, and from some of the actual people involved.

The pro legal exploitation side of episode 2 (Payday Loan Sharks) reminded me of the pro-sweat shop arguments made by exploiting companies. Legal, yes, but moral? I thought that the humanizing juxtaposition of these hated “businessmen” in the middle of the big looming moral question was pretty subtle and crafty. (And I doubt anyone actually fell for it).

Having seen both, I think I like The Debt better, as it also brings forth other philosophical/ethical issues that may come up as result, such as ethics of covering up the truth (or "Truth being a luxury" at certain times). Operation Finale is more streamlined and straightforward action/thriller - more about preserving the memory and the revenge of the victims. But reality and the issues that inevitably come up, of course, are more complicated than just that. Does the victim become the monster himself? Will he also cover the truth up to avenge himself and his nation, if he has to?

Jewish spy gets a gynaecological exam from a Nazi physician? This should have been a comedy starring Adam Sandler.﻿

One of the reviews on this movie.

I do recall vaguely seeing this movie but was not unduly impressed. Still prefer Operation Final as it gives some insight into the emotional element, that I suspect would be long lasting for the victims, I don't know really, as you would have had to experience this horror and would not wish it on your worst enemy. I think if I had experienced it I would opt out of the human race and live a life of a hermit, one could never trust another being ever, after that.

Will he also cover the truth up to avenge himself and his nation, if he has to?

Why not? An eye for an eye (and a tooth for a tooth)

There was no cover up, the Nazis were meticulous in documenting and filming their activities, there was more than enough evidence of their heinous acts they produced for themselves.

There was no cover up, the Nazis were meticulous in documenting and filming their activities, there was more than enough evidence of their heinous acts they produced for themselves.

I was referring to the coverup about the mission, in the movie (Debt). This subject was a big theme in it, which raised the ethical questions as to what actions are justifiable by the survivors/victims. Essentially, is lying okay?

Dan Estuline, the author who investigated the Bilderberg group for 15 years before writing his book – “The True Story of the Bilderberg Group.”

He describes their agenda thusly:

One international identity that observes one set of universal values.Centralized control of public opinion through propaganda.A New World Order with rulers, subjects, and the illusion of democracy.A “zero-growth society” without prosperity or progress, only greater wealth and power for the rulers.Manufactured crises and perpetual wars."Establishing the UN as a de facto world government.Making NATO a world military."

(Notably, on Hellenization of Buddhism, i.e., the introduction of Buddhist statues/idolatry, as well as contribution to the eventual spread of Buddhism into China). Apparently Zarathustra was also born in the area and some of the elements of Zoroastrianism (fire) were later incorporated into local representations of Zeus and later Kushan (Buddhist!?) rulers; ex.Kanishka's coins)Ghandhara: The Renaissance of Buddhismhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOtl1CA ... K4nmnBR3xH(this is from 8 part history doc. series on Eurasia)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milinda_Panha

Dan Estuline, the author who investigated the Bilderberg group for 15 years before writing his book – “The True Story of the Bilderberg Group.”

He describes their agenda thusly:

One international identity that observes one set of universal values.Centralized control of public opinion through propaganda.A New World Order with rulers, subjects, and the illusion of democracy.A “zero-growth society” without prosperity or progress, only greater wealth and power for the rulers.Manufactured crises and perpetual wars."Establishing the UN as a de facto world government.Making NATO a world military."

The irony here is that the current president of the US gets his news from Fox, and has labeled virtually every other source of news as "fake", and claims to be against the "deep state" and in favor of putting America first in world politics.

You see...a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.Dating a stripper is like eating a noisy bag of chips in church. Everyone looks at you in disgust, but deep down they want some too.

My first conclusion is that it appears that even the collapse of civilization does not permanently halt technological innovation and progress (it only pauses it); bringing me to a reluctant realization that technological progress may not really be stopped in the long run. So, to use Kaczynski’s metaphor, perhaps the real answer lies in humans stop being alcoholics in the first place. (Is it possible?) Globalization definitely plays a major role here, as it only accelerates the process.Also, if the Western Civilization does collapse, I do not believe that the East will take over the stage in the world history, as I do not see the crucial element of innovation present there as its defining factor. It may adopt Western technology, but I do not believe that it will really evolve it, or significantly surpass it.