<<As I'm just always impressed with the hubris of human beings on the amount of control or the managing of climate.

And people were sure we could never pollute rivers and oceans because, well, you know, they are just so big.

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As usual, Goofyhoofy accepts whatever someone spoon feeds hiom as long as it's called "science."

What Goofyhoofy ought to recognize is that anytime science and politics intersect, truth may be a csualty of that conflict.

Just as an example, environmentalists used the Spotted Owl to eliminate tens of thousands of family wage jobs in rural and small town Oregon and Washington, and gained control over millions of acres of public and private lands.

This was done on the evidence of scientists that the Spoted owl was declining because the only habitat it could live in was old growth timber, which was being cut.

Twenty years after the environmentalist solution destroyed a good deal of the rural economy, the Spotted Owl is still in decline. Scientists now know that the Spotted Owl nests fine in second growth timer, and that the Barred Owl is out competing the Spotted Owl for habitat.

Of course, environmentalists don't give a fig about that, and never did. The Spoted Owl was simply a useful tool to gain control over rural lands and scientists were the useful tools who helped give them that power.