The Cloudforest CafeAn eclectic gardening community focused on rare fruits, palms and other subtropical and exotic plants2016-12-09T18:43:00-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/feed.php2016-12-09T18:43:00-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6529&p=46737#p46737https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVmWU4YBA48

"Badman62, this is Twan again. I will be out of the country for three weeks, starting next week. So if I don't respond to you right away, please understand. I'll try to remember to reply to you when I get back, if you PM me. Sorry about that."

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I don't have any more space in my yard for a trade. You are welcome to get the honey jar if you want to dig it up. I live south of San Diego, not far from the border to Mexico. PM me if you want to take the tree.

Hey Twanthanks much for the offer.I am in New Orleans Louisiana.quite a drive dont think i will get there anytime soon.

]]>2016-11-24T08:48:49-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6476&p=46730#p46730and actually not that far from 8b either...actually, the old map i was in zone 8.

I have about 20 mango seedlings going, most in containers1 to 3 galbut a couple of larger ones, and 1 in groundthat one is 3yrs+ and gave me 1 fruit this june(i plucked most of the small flowers/fruit off though)

its only got exposed to 32F last winter for a few hours on 1 nightand it wasnt phased at all.i have lost small seedlings to cold thoughwe had a couple of 28F nights 2 years ago, and i lost a couple of seedlingsin 1 gal containers. they were not protected at all though.

We do get temps in the mid to low 20s every few years.i am hoping the tree is strong enough, and temps mild enoughso i can get by 1 more yearsevery year the tree gets stronger.

a micro-climate helps a lot too.i have a papaya next to my housethe bricks keep it from freezing. and the roots grow toward the housethe 28F temps killed the top, but it came back in spring.the papaya is next to a loquat also, which steals %30 of the lightbut, provides a lot of protection from cold winds.

For mango, i think my big problem is rain.too much water at the wrong time will certainly effect flowering.and at times it can rain here several days non-stop.

]]>2016-11-13T01:32:20-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6517&p=46728#p46728 Some pretty big specimens of just the standard green Chamaerops around langford and few are approaching 12 years of age or more.

]]>2016-11-02T19:51:53-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6512&p=46721#p46721Statistics: Posted by palmvalley — Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:51 pm
]]>2016-10-31T08:58:15-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=5824&p=46720#p46720Statistics: Posted by coastwind — Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:58 am
]]>2016-10-30T19:21:13-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6485&p=46719#p46719Statistics: Posted by Twan — Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:21 pm
]]>2016-10-30T19:07:21-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6485&p=46718#p46718I don't have any more space in my yard for a trade. You are welcome to get the honey jar if you want to dig it up. I live south of San Diego, not far from the border to Mexico. PM me if you want to take the tree.

]]>2016-10-26T13:14:25-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6521&p=46715#p46715Statistics: Posted by TucsonKen — Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:14 pm
]]>2016-10-25T14:15:06-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6520&p=46714#p46714Does anyone know of other Argan trees growing in California? It would be hard to believe this is the only one.

]]>2016-10-24T04:43:39-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6279&p=46713#p46713Statistics: Posted by jbclem 9b Topanga — Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:43 am
]]>2016-10-21T17:28:11-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6279&p=46712#p46712At the November 2015 AZRFG meeting in Phoenix, Stan Ciomperlik spoke and demonstrated grafting, and a few weeks afterward, AZRFG distributed a quantity of his Lula seeds among interested members, so they might have information about how to obtain more seeds.

]]>2016-10-19T16:33:52-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6184&p=46710#p46710I'm pretty new to growing avocados so I can't compare Wilma to any other locally-grown varieties. Hopefully that will change before long, as I have a 3' high in-ground Opal just beginning to bear (a single fruit this year), and a few others I plan to plant in 2017 (a Mexicola Grande grafted last year, a small Aravaipa, and a newly-grafted Little Cado). I also grafted another Wilma to replace my current tree, since I had no idea it would grow so fast, and it's close enough to a block wall that I'm afraid it won't be long before the roots crack it. So, everything but the Opal will go far out in the yard where they can grow big without damaging anything.

]]>2016-10-19T09:38:22-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6184&p=46709#p46709Statistics: Posted by RobertS — Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:38 am
]]>2016-10-19T07:37:25-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6279&p=46708#p46708I have also used seedlings from my cold hardy 'Wilma' as rootstocks, but since the seeds are smaller and the shoots are much thinner, they are a little trickier to graft.

]]>2016-10-18T19:24:25-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6184&p=46707#p46707Statistics: Posted by TucsonKen — Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:24 pm
]]>2016-10-18T13:53:33-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6511&p=46706#p46706The tall yellow plant near the end of the pictures is Centaurea pterocaula seed collected in Syria by Bob I guess that's the last time that will happen

]]>2016-10-18T07:43:09-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6515&p=46705#p46705Statistics: Posted by TucsonKen — Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:43 am
]]>2016-10-16T10:21:06-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6514&p=46704#p46704looks like a male to me also.If you cant get a female and you want to try something radical to get fruitpapaya can change their sex when they are stressed.you can radically change the water schedule, others mention driving a nail in the trunk, change the amount of sun or nutrients, or all of the above...

i thought this might have been a mythbut, it actually does happen... how to force it might be a bit tricky though.

Twan wrote:Wow, the fruits are huge. I saw some fruit set on my "honey jar" and "Sugar cane" jujube trees, but nothing yet from the GH688 tree. I have been digging up the suckers and try to get rid of them as many as I can. What a chore

i had thought that too, the fruit were large...But, this Li i had got produced fruit twice that size.

Would love to make a tradeive been looking for Sugar Cane and Honey Jar.

i could take a cutting off my Cocothe fruit was smaller, but it was very sweet and soft.i also have lot sof other stuff to trade...fig, POM, guava... lots more...looking for anything ?

]]>2016-10-16T08:58:02-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6184&p=46702#p46702Right now I have Wilma, Aravipa, Mex grande, Queen, Bacon and a number of nonamer seedlings found locally that I am evaluating.

]]>2016-10-14T17:52:59-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=4944&p=46700#p46700Statistics: Posted by shaneatwell — Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:52 pm
]]>2016-10-11T22:51:16-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6512&p=46699#p46699Statistics: Posted by Nate74 — Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:51 pm
]]>2016-10-10T08:29:39-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6184&p=46698#p46698If you want fast growth, try a 'Wilma.' I have one purchased as a 1-gallon in 2012 from Devine Avocados in Devine, Texas. Unfortunately, the owner, Bill Schneider, doesn't ship trees out of state, so purchases must be made on-site (he might ship scion wood, however). I planted it in my yard in Tucson in the spring of 2013 and it hit a gangly eight feet tall that same season. In 2015 it hit 16 feet, spread out and got bushy, and produced its first 14 fruit. This spring I topped it back to about 12 feet, but it has rebounded higher than before pruning and is currently loaded with mature fruit.

I cannot verify the nursery's claims that it is hardy to 16 degrees, but so far it has been largely unfazed by our winter lows, with damage limited to blackening of the newest, tender foliage, and loss of blossoms that were open during freezing temps (it bloomed over a long enough period that there was still plenty of fruit set).

When fully ripe, the edible skin is shiny, black, and thin as the skin of a tomato. Having black chunks of skin in your guacamole can be a little off-putting at first, but it tastes fine. The difficult part for me has been determining when the fruit is truly ready to pick--I tend to jump the gun and then they shrivel and get rubbery rather than ripening. The best ones so far are a couple that have fallen to the ground unnoticed, which I only found after they had been chewed by packrats. I trimmed off the nasty parts and the rest was creamy and flavorful. This year, I'm having better luck waiting until they're ready.

]]>2016-09-20T22:40:10-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6515&p=46691#p46691Our area only gets 50 chill hours? Wow, that's low, huh. But I got a lot of apples this year, not so with nectarine, plum, or peach.

]]>2016-09-17T18:35:06-07:00http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/viewtopic.php?t=6515&p=46690#p46690I planted 2 different varieties about 5 years ago, and they flowered good last year, but no fruits held. I contribute it the lack of chill hours.

This year I had 3 fruits mature on my "Sweet Alice" pawpaw, they were real tasty. I think because of last winters amount of chill hours.

I'm about 2 miles inland in Chula Vista, and we usually get about 50 chill hours.

barathr wrote:Anyone know how to select the date/time in the new Wundermap? I was hoping to explore new areas at past dates/times and it seems the calendar picker that lets you select the date is gone. Which makes me wonder what the point of it is.

Wunderground recently switched from Google maps to a different map provider. A lot of features have disappeared but they're working to bring them back.