The Pirate Bay founder is raising money for spy-proof messaging app

Private messages really aren’t so private, and Peter Sunde, co-founder and former spokesperson for BitTorrent search engine The Pirate Bay, isn’t happy about it. So Sunde has worked with a small group of developers to raise money for a fully private messaging app.

The iPhone and Android app will be called Hemlis, the Swedish word for “secret,” and utilizes end-to-end encryption to ensure that only the two people carrying on the text conversation will have access to its data. Unlike traditional messaging apps, which leave data trails that companies and the government can access, the security within Hemlis means that no outside force — not even Sunde and his team — would be able to see a message’s contents.

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Check out Hemlis in action below:

Not suprisingly, Sunde and his team aren’t planning on a traditional ad revenue model for their new free app. The crowdfunding campaign for the app, which allows users to pay in cash or Bitcoin, starts at $5 to unlock the extra features in the messenger. Spending $10 and above will allow access to pre-registering usernames — and a donation of $500 includes a fundraiser mention in the app and hundreds of unlock codes. But fundraising is still early, and there’s no release date for Hemlis.

While encrypted text messages may seem excessive to most people, texting apps do take advantage of demographic and metadata to appeal to advertisers. Sunde has been very vocal about the NSA scandal, and his app is aimed at a relatively small group of like-minded users that are not only alarmed about the levels of surveillance and data capture — but who are also exercised enough to do something about it. It is likely to appeal to the same kinds of people that use networks like Tor and search engines like DuckDuckGo.

Spy-Proof messaging app is already here from https://letsxprs.com, seems to be the most secure of all. Takes absolutely no personal info and does not track or keep messages. Way more featureful than whatsapp…

Unfortunately, end to end encryption is susceptible to man in the middle attacks even using DH encryption. Also, the CA certificate system doesnt prevent cert forgery and proxying which the govt can surely pull off with no trouble at all.

And then there’s store everything, and decrypt later which will render your private messages open through brute force attacks that can be done 2 years from now.

And lastly, there are already policies in place that prioritize encrypted traffic for scrutiny.

Peter, Linus and Leif are also known for being the core trio behind Flattr a great service to support creators through social micro-donation. If you read the FAQ on helm.is it explains the encryption standards used by this app. The team is a fan of Surespot but wanted to make something cross platform and with a simple UI/EX

A) get apachefriends.org xampp ( windows ) lampp ( linux)
B) have a domain name point to your ip
C) have a static ip
D) get an encrypted chat software server ( LOADS AORUND )
E) dial up your phone point ot said address enjoy
all phones are digital nearly and thus

ajax chat can even work an irc like that is also like a forum you need only fix its index.php not to show errors and your off.
make sure you harden versus css cross site scripting and mod the code to put all mysql or sql data into said encrypted….

IF you then allow a set of elite proxies only to connect you have in affect made it so that the nsa only sees proxies sending encrypted data….

they never get your real location and you can using a phone app to use a proxy set to get to that site chat make it so your only going to a proxy server

thus the destination isn’t known….unless they back door your phone ( illegal without probable cause in first place )

then its an end run all round.

email me if anyone wants more code specific ideas…and any help ….DO IT
more of these apps and ideas the better…

think about hackers why they dont get caught
A) you need ot use an elite proxy as we call them and in a chain
THUS if one is comprimised the next gets used and so on or drops but you always have a trust issue ,this is how you get aorunjd location routing nsa meta data issues, the fact is all known apps have this one issue

you can encrypt all you wan tyour sending it via routs that they can sniff and thus copy it for later cracking or exploiting.

at reddit i made a huge post of an idea we got working befor ebittorrent was done and because of a really bad back injury i never got to pushing it cause if i did it would be prolly in use by everyone today….it started with the heaviest encryption to begin with….
and had some freaky setup using rootkits to make and self replicate parts.
long story short take out the illegal hacker bits and replace them with a world wide trustable proxy network that is trusted and you have your solving of nsa maeta data locating

It’s not about illegal stuff – it’s about embarrassing stuff too… Have you ever picked your nose? Masturbated? Would you like pictures, video, audio of that to be accessible to thousands of people, some of whom you actually have a good chance of knowing or meeting? Your cellphone, maybe even your TV, has a microphone, maybe a camera, maybe GPS, maybe more – that can potentially be activated silently and used to gather this kind of data, “because terrorists”. Ever scratched your arse somewhere you thought was secluded in public? Ever wonder if your next job interview might be with the husband of an NSA or FBI analyst who took some “funny videos of local degenerates” home?

End-to-end encryption doesn’t solve the metadata problem. The govt doesn’t need to know what you say if it knows everyone you talk to. You need something like torchat which hides the content and the end points.

sorry to say it bud , TOr is known as a transparent proxy , with the right tools you can glean ip metadata nfo….this is why they don’t mind you spouting that misinformation.

you need a elite proxy as its calle done known and proven not to log any information of your visit…they are and do exist and they are rare.

ya know the idea is maybe if i started a business on this would you pay 10 cents a month for the use of one for text messaging only….

if i can do 10000 locally at once now
that is still 1000 dollars a month with anet connection costing me 60 bucks
so its seems lot but hey being on disability any money i make the govt takes half ( 1000 becomes 500 )

500 too maintain and keep secure the box….pretty cheap….for 10000 people….
then you can all make apps and use said service

im one guy right so who else can ya trust ….you then can add them to your elite proxy trust service…..you just need to do that lets send a friend over and verify everyone is a real human not a spybot crap…this has ot be setup with people you trust not jsut a socalled facebook buddy….

this is why you need hackers to um er help you get elite proxies they are called , they are uber rare ones that are proven not to log that ip and such of yours….

i have 3000+
with a few million trusted friends and real people if we think ot torrents and sharing why not lend ips in such a fashion , fo rtext not even heavy
i with 1 megabit can handle about 10000 people chatting locally on irc….
40$ more a month i get 7 megabit upload now i go dedicate 3 megabit and im 30000
now think of 3000 me’s

thats 90 million that cant be located now ….proxies only and the law in canada does not require me to keep logs….

thats the rub ….they can change that so we nee dot fight that….ot keep it this way
and even if they dont other nations also dont care ….

all nsa sees is you to a proxy cause your sending it commands to send on wihtout a log of where and when ….

No real explanation of how it works…And it doesn’t look like it’s going to be open source either? How could we know we could trust it? And how would they be checking the access codes they purport to be selling? Seems like that would require a central server, theoretically allowing them to gather metadata.

In the meantime: BitMessage!https://bitmessage.org
It’s in Python and there’s no app yet but it’s the surest thing I know for completely trustless, secure text communications.