I made this point in a diff thread but yeah basically what you said and qbesanef showed in that post, most people who WOULD have bought volumes(when they have gained the ablility to do so) or even would have paid onemanga to support the publishers will DEFINATELY not now, they'll just *stop reading* or pirate more.

just a shame that instead of working with the sites and making more potential money, they destroy a good source of potential green...

G to the G

because of some billions dollar of losses (due to recession)'
they blame the Internet of the causes
XD

And BTW
Hey BlackFlash
do you have any idea where we can find fresh weekly Shonen Jumps raws
just in case when Onemanga or Managstream goes down

- There are many, many countries where manga and anime are very hard to find. Like mine, where hardly any book or CD shop even knows what I'm talking about when I ask them. The few manga volumes I managed to acquire legally had to be ordered online and imported directly from the US. And by the standards of my country they're not cheap.

Remember when you talked about the convenience of the internet? That last part you wrote there?

It's not just for stealing you know, you can actually buy shit of the internet too, including mangas. And in much cheaper prices, as in, fucking pocket change if you look hard enough, which i suspect none of you do when it comes to actually consider buying mangas. I have never bought manga locally and i never will.

Raw fact of the matter is that we're stealing this shit from both the creators that make the mangas and the publishers who want to spread this to other countries, so when they actually try to do something about it, think twice before calling the people who actually like to support the industry and get this shit for themselves "self-righteous".

I steal manga like the motherfucking Blackbeard of the internet but when shit hits the fan and people start doing something about it, i don't come up with a list of convenient justifications about how the mean outside world exist purely to impede my chances of actually buying mangas and how i'm a free spirit that does this because it's the only way i can.

It's not the only way, it's the most convenient way.

Free and Fast. Especially free.

Don't bullshit around and say it's because of anything else. It's fucking retarded how fucking insulted the manga community worldwide is about this. You reap what you fucking sow. I swear the digital generation is top top retarded.

That said, i would never even think twice about buying Naruto manga, never liked it enough to actually buy it. Berserk, Hellsing and Saint Seiya are the 3 series i'm buying right now.

That said again, manga pirating and scanlation will never stop. Ever. Regardless of what this coalition tries to do, closing down shitty online viewer sites that any moron can watch without any limitation whatsoever affects nothing int he long run, just the convenience of getting pirated manga through a single click of the mouse.

Remember when you talked about the convenience of the internet? That last part you wrote there?

It's not just for stealing you know, you can actually buy shit of the internet too, including mangas. And in much cheaper prices, as in, fucking pocket change if you look hard enough, which i suspect none of you do when it comes to actually consider buying mangas. I have never bought manga locally and i never will.

Raw fact of the matter is that we're stealing this shit from both the creators that make the mangas and the publishers who want to spread this to other countries, so when they actually try to do something about it, think twice before calling the people who actually like to support the industry and get this shit for themselves "self-righteous".

I steal manga like the motherfucking Blackbeard of the internet but when shit hits the fan and people start doing something about it, i don't come up with a list of convenient justifications about how the mean outside world exist purely to impede my chances of actually buying mangas and how i'm a free spirit that does this because it's the only way i can.

It's not the only way, it's the most convenient way.

Free and Fast. Especially free.

Don't bullshit around and say it's because of anything else. It's fucking retarded how fucking insulted the manga community worldwide is about this. You reap what you fucking sow. I swear the digital generation is top top retarded.

That said, i would never even think twice about buying Naruto manga, never liked it enough to actually buy it. Berserk, Hellsing and Saint Seiya are the 3 series i'm buying right now.

That said again, manga pirating and scanlation will never stop. Ever. Regardless of what this coalition tries to do, closing down shitty online viewer sites that any moron can watch without any limitation whatsoever affects nothing int he long run, just the convenience of getting pirated manga through a single click of the mouse.

You'll just have to click more times now.

Well, at least you haven't resorted to the other usual jerkwad arguments like 'Learn Japanese so you can read unlicensed manga!' But it's jerky enough. Douche, you just neglected the contents of my post from beginning to end and tossed back a reply negating what I said based on.. what? Since you don't get it I'll point out that I did order manga from the bloody internet! And it was worth far, far more than 'fucking pocket change'! Maybe you're wealthy or living in a country where manga is actually published and sold, maybe both, but you need to open your eyes to the sad realisation that most of the world's population aren't!

Sorry about the douchy behavior but the overall apologist behavior that most people come up with is pretty irritating by itself. You're not really in any position to take the moral ground here. And i don't live in a country where manga is published and sold, at least not the ones i want. That's why i said i ONLY buy online.

Then again, i made that reply since you actually admitted buying shit online but still come up with 50 fucking excuses. Yes, you can buy official licensed manga very fucking cheap online. And yes, it's piss easy to order them.

Also the "learn japanese if you're true fan" argument is probably the most retarded thing about this whole situation.

Then again, i made that reply since you actually admitted buying shit online but still come up with 50 fucking excuses. Yes, you can buy official licensed manga very fucking cheap online. And yes, it's piss easy to order them.

Really? Did I tell you that? Oh, gee, my earlier posts are all wrong! I don't know where you live, how much money you have to spend and where you import manga from, but by the standards of most third world countries it's far from cheap, not factoring in duties and so on. And it's certainly impossible to buy anywhere near what I'd like to read.

Originally Posted by Deathbringerpt

Also the "learn japanese if you're true fan" argument is probably the most retarded thing about this whole situation.

I read that argument just yesterday from one of the naysayers, so if you're accusing me of making that up...

Really? Did I tell you that? Oh, gee, my earlier posts are all wrong! I don't know where you live, how much money you have to spend and where you import manga from, but by the standards of most third world countries it's far from cheap, not factoring in duties and so on. And it's certainly impossible to buy anywhere near what I'd like to read.

I read that argument just yesterday from one of the naysayers, so if you're accusing me of making that up...

Im just glad I have that guy on my ignore list, you should probably put him there too.

Originally Posted by R3dKnight

because of some billions dollar of losses (due to recession)'
they blame the Internet of the causes
XD

Really? Did I tell you that? Oh, gee, my earlier posts are all wrong! I don't know where you live, how much money you have to spend and where you import manga from, but by the standards of most third world countries it's far from cheap, not factoring in duties and so on. And it's certainly impossible to buy anywhere near what I'd like to read.

I read that argument just yesterday from one of the naysayers, so if you're accusing me of making that up...