Is Siege of Orgrimmar REALLY that hard?

Since people are talking about SoO Being too hard and want more nerfs(And to those with lesser progress).

To put this to the test, a bunch of guys from my guild are going to gather BiS Heroic Dungeon Gear sets(And timeless gear sets). We'll ONLY be upgrading our Heroic Dungeon gear to their max itemlvl of 471, you are WELCOME to use heroic scenario gear(no epics allowed).

Our first run will be held @ June the 28th(Saturday).
We will be attempting to clear 14/14 NORMAL with it.

- We are recruiting more people of any class to join us for this(hybrids yeah baby!)
- We are all HORDE on EU servers(Kazzak).
- We've all defeated the 14 Heroic bosses of Siege of Orgrimmar.

Requirements to join us:
- Be Horde on EU servers.
- Have a full set of 1/1 Upgraded Heroic Dungeon gear(471 itemlvl).
- Have a SPARE set of Timeless gear(No upgrades).
- Have at least cleared it on normal on any toon.(More experienced players will always be prioritized).
- a working Microphone.

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I'm wishing you guys the best of luck. I imagine the dps checks would be the hardest part, but sweet heavens... if you manage to tank and kill Garrosh in 471 gear, I will be baffled. I think the Iron Stars and transition phases will be impossible to survive, but hey best of luck to you guys, if I can tune in to watch I absolutely will.

Originally Posted by Axelhander

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Also you're wrong, the people who agree with you are wrong, and you're probably ugly.

Ever been so angry at everyone on the internet you tell a woman she is mansplaining?

If I'm around I will definitely watch. I'm on US servers so I can't participate but its definitely going to be hilarious to tune in- whether you're successful or not. I think this is a neat idea to pass the time.

your tanks will literally get one shot by immerseus's corrosive blast. if your tanks can somehow survive the blasts with a good rotation of cds, your raid will end up dying from too many puddles hitting the middle.

BUT even then. let's say you downed immerseus. you'll get to protectors and your healers will run oom during rook's first desperate measure phase trying to heal 1.2m damage every inferno strike. get past that and then you'll face your first real dps check: he's desperate measure.

SoO on normal is piss easy but it's still tuned for 522 gear at the very least. my druid in proving grounds with a medley of SoO heroic gear has about 380k hp. at 518 ilvl (left over OS gear from ToT), he's sitting at 498k hp.

there's "testing your own limits" and then there's just wasting time. not trying to be harsh or rude, just being honest.

Best of luck to you, this idea has basically been done before (not with SoO). I remember someone organized a blue gear raid to clear Ulduar back in Wrath, and they managed, including one shotting Yogg.

your tanks will literally get one shot by immerseus's corrosive blast. if your tanks can somehow survive the blasts with a good rotation of cds, your raid will end up dying from too many puddles hitting the middle.

BUT even then. let's say you downed immerseus. you'll get to protectors and your healers will run oom during rook's first desperate measure phase trying to heal 1.2m damage every inferno strike. get past that and then you'll face your first real dps check: he's desperate measure.

SoO on normal is piss easy but it's still tuned for 522 gear at the very least. my druid in proving grounds with a medley of SoO heroic gear has about 380k hp. at 518 ilvl (left over OS gear from ToT), he's sitting at 498k hp.

there's "testing your own limits" and then there's just wasting time. not trying to be harsh or rude, just being honest.

You can easily be at 600k hp in 471 gear.
This with a decent cd rotation will be enough for anything Normalmode has to offer

Is it sooooo hard? Dunno..there are numbers of people and guilds and how far they progressed on wowprogress. You be the judge...a couple of guilds cleared all HMs the week HMs were out even and especially back in T 14(for T14 they were mostly in ilv 463 gear)..others are still in normals after SoO is out 7+ months

Best of luck to you, this idea has basically been done before (not with SoO). I remember someone organized a blue gear raid to clear Ulduar back in Wrath, and they managed, including one shotting Yogg.

The difference between heroic dungeon MOP and TOT normal gear is much greater than the difference between WOTLK dungeon heroic and Naxxramas gear.

Best of luck to you, this idea has basically been done before (not with SoO). I remember someone organized a blue gear raid to clear Ulduar back in Wrath, and they managed, including one shotting Yogg.

http://greedygoblin.blogspot.de/ did it and they also cleared lich king after the nerfs but being primarly trader he left on suggestion to eve which has the most complex economy in mmorpgs.

edit:
"There also was a blue only geared guild called "undergeared" that killed like ~7/12 in ICC. " -that was him, they cleared full after nerfs.

Best of luck to you, this idea has basically been done before (not with SoO). I remember someone organized a blue gear raid to clear Ulduar back in Wrath, and they managed, including one shotting Yogg.

There also was a blue only geared guild called "undergeared" that killed like ~7/12 in ICC.