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I think his vote is for sale to whomever kissis his arse and promises the most free stuff at someone else's expense... Wonder what will happen when all of us with $$$ are either drained dry or leave the country... as in beyond the reach of the taxman?

I see it now... Living in a tropical paradise, beyond the reach of the US govt... no longer subject to US corrupt polecats... and living GOOD because it does not take much $$$ to live good down there. And the pawns of the current administration are freezing in the cold dark because there is nobody to shake-down... we all left.
And here is the deal: In that tropical paradise, there is freedom!!! Nobody puts up with folks who do not understand and support freedom.

Well once again your mouth has overridden your A$$.

You don't know squat about me, where I work, or what I do.

I probably make far more money then you.

So instead of commenting about what you don't know perhaps you should stick to your loser comments and posting emails from other right wing extreemists websites and more bible study, praying, and taking care of Mrs GA-HVAC-Tech if there is one. Which I highly doubt.

I think his vote is for sale to whomever kissis his arse and promises the most free stuff at someone else's expense... Wonder what will happen when all of us with $$$ are either drained dry or leave the country... as in beyond the reach of the taxman?

In all fairness, the GOP is as guilty if not more so than the Dems for raising entitlements and encouraging people to take advantage of it. I think in all this bickering between this party or that party, this candidate or that one; we lose the reality that essentially they are all cut from the same cloth.

So instead of commenting about what you don't know perhaps you should stick to your loser comments and posting emails from other right wing extreemists websites and more bible study, praying, and taking care of Mrs GA-HVAC-Tech if there is one. Which I highly doubt."

To put the world in order, we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order, we must put the family in order; to put the family in order, we must cultivate our personal life; and to cultivate our personal life, we must first set our hearts right.

In all fairness, the GOP is as guilty if not more so than the Dems for raising entitlements and encouraging people to take advantage of it. I think in all this bickering between this party or that party, this candidate or that one; we lose the reality that essentially they are all cut from the same cloth.

I do agree the GOP has gone towards kissing up rather than towing the conservative (NOT neo-con) line... IMO evidence of this is shown with the results of the 2010 election compared to the 2012 election (TeaParty dominant in 2010, and old guard GOP dominant in 2012).

However:

This idea of discounting both parties is not IMO a good one... While there are similarities... the foundational roots of less govt (conservative) vs more govt (liberal) have not changed. Trying to lump both parties into the same mold is to ignore the difference between a society full of folks who take care of themselves or a society that expects (read that has an entitlement mentality) of the govt taking care of them. And it does not even take a grade-schooler to understand sometime down the road the govt spigot of freebees will run out... then what? We need to remember: Any govt that can give you what you want, can take it away.

Might want to read this article... and consider the legislation passed within the last 2 decades which gives the govt a ridiculous amount of power... power the founding fathers knew would destroy freedom. Ever wonder what would happen if a true despot got into the WH and took that power to heart? The founding fathers knew well, they had just left a nation (England) that was like that. They tried to create a country where that could not happen... Problem is; we the people do not seem to understand what freedom is... and IMO we will loose it if we continue as we are.

This idea of discounting both parties is not IMO a good one... While there are similarities... the foundational roots of less govt (conservative) vs more govt (liberal) have not changed. Trying to lump both parties into the same mold is to ignore the difference between a society full of folks who take care of themselves or a society that expects (read that has an entitlement mentality) of the govt taking care of them. And it does not even take a grade-schooler to understand sometime down the road the govt spigot of freebees will run out... then what? We need to remember: Any govt that can give you what you want, can take it away.http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/12.10/judo.html

GA I agree on principle but the reality as I see it is the GOP has not been representative of the limited government since GW Bush, perhaps even before that (I'm Canadian sorry lol) so while they talk a great deal about it, we sure haven't seen much concrete results. That's why the TP was so refreshing and I do believe they will come back from the ashes and this time be critical of both parties instead of just the Dems.

Thai sticks are so 70's......There's alot you don't know. But again, I see no intelligent response to the issue being discussed....Just like Hussein voters. Run their mouth without knowing what they are saying. Ill informed, and ignorant of the facts. Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go thru life. It is merely an existance you all want, not living. Can you not make a better life for your family by yourself without a gov't beauracrat telling you what to do? I'll never understand the mentality of these types..........I'll watch your decline on the news.....smiling.

Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech

I do agree the GOP has gone towards kissing up rather than towing the conservative (NOT neo-con) line... IMO evidence of this is shown with the results of the 2010 election compared to the 2012 election (TeaParty dominant in 2010, and old guard GOP dominant in 2012).

However:

This idea of discounting both parties is not IMO a good one... While there are similarities... the foundational roots of less govt (conservative) vs more govt (liberal) have not changed. Trying to lump both parties into the same mold is to ignore the difference between a society full of folks who take care of themselves or a society that expects (read that has an entitlement mentality) of the govt taking care of them. And it does not even take a grade-schooler to understand sometime down the road the govt spigot of freebees will run out... then what? We need to remember: Any govt that can give you what you want, can take it away.

Might want to read this article... and consider the legislation passed within the last 2 decades which gives the govt a ridiculous amount of power... power the founding fathers knew would destroy freedom. Ever wonder what would happen if a true despot got into the WH and took that power to heart? The founding fathers knew well, they had just left a nation (England) that was like that. They tried to create a country where that could not happen... Problem is; we the people do not seem to understand what freedom is... and IMO we will loose it if we continue as we are.

I keep hearing about these wealthy Americans packing up to leave. Is there anything we or I can do to hurry them. We'd be much better off uf they left. I do wonder where they think they can go to live the life they would love. All the conservative dictators are being thrown out of their countries.

So instead of commenting about what you don't know perhaps you should stick to your loser comments and posting emails from other right wing extreemists websites and more bible study, praying, and taking care of Mrs GA-HVAC-Tech if there is one. Which I highly doubt.

If GA does have a wife, she is probably happier than yours bickering about who makes more money. If he does not, then there is no bickering at all.. Either way, GA is the winner of that exchange of ideas.

"You boys are really making this thing harder than it has to be". Me

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GA I agree on principle but the reality as I see it is the GOP has not been representative of the limited government since GW Bush, perhaps even before that (I'm Canadian sorry lol) so while they talk a great deal about it, we sure haven't seen much concrete results. That's why the TP was so refreshing and I do believe they will come back from the ashes and this time be critical of both parties instead of just the Dems.

Yeah, when I saw the 'old guard' taking over at the GOP after the 2010 election... I kinda figured what might happen... It is almost like they did not want to win... or they were h*ll bent to NOT let freedom poke up and embarrass anyone in the establishment.

I like the TP also, they are fresh and motivated, they understand what I believe the Constitution and other founding documents say... However I also believe at this point the TP does not have enough following to field a POTUS candidate and win. Maybe a few local elections, that is all. I wish I was wrong on this... however risking more liberals by splitting the middle and right vote is too risky IMO. As we see it is pretty thin already.

I keep hearing about these wealthy Americans packing up to leave. Is there anything we or I can do to hurry them. We'd be much better off uf they left. I do wonder where they think they can go to live the life they would love. All the conservative dictators are being thrown out of their countries.

Hmmm... I wonder who will pay the taxes to support worthless libs on the dole when the rich leave...