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"The 60 year Pacal connection is exquisite. By design? If so, then
it is a designer not human."

"Any honest appraisal of the data forces this conclusion, in my opinion,
again, unless one insists, because of their world view, that there
can be no such an agent. Then the logic of the secular model forces
one to conclude that such juxtapositions and similar data all MUST be
coincidental, because that is the only alternative the secular model
allow for if 'it' can't be explained in terms of human interaction."

Agreed. Stan (orthodox and a skeptic) indicated in his lenghty E-mail argument with JMJ that to prove up the coincidential into the not concidential (my wording) that the "coincidences" would by necessity have be statistically significance, and beyond what probability would produce.

To get the key data, a la Sir Francis Bacon, would require something like this:

"...From the ashes a fire shall be woken, a light from the shadows shall spring; renenwed shall be blade that was broken, the crownless again shall be king.”

The bulk of that key information presently is unavailable. Light shall spring from the shadows, and in this case the Light Bacon pursued all his very productive career, and as projected into the future. It will be interesting to see where things stand into early 2013. I don't think we are before the gates of Mordor yet.