Thursday, April 13, 2017

TAKE A BUTCHER'S AT THIS ATTRACTIVE BRIGG SHOP FRONT

Walking down Queen Street in Brigg town centre the other day our eye was drawn to the attractive hanging baskets of flowers adorning the front of The Beauty Clinique.

We thought it worth recording the scene and also knew that the picture would be of particular interest to Cliff Turner, perhaps our oldest follower and also the most distant, as he lives in New Zealand.

You may recall that, over many weeks, we serialised his interesting memories of growing up in Brigg during the 1930s and 1940s.

Cliff is a member of the well-known Brigg family whose butchery business occupied the premises on the corner of Garden Street now occupied by the salon pictured here.

We exchange emails with Cliff quite often and one he sent in response to a recent Brigg Blog post pointed out that the First World War ended in 1919, not 1918 as we stated.

We bow to Cliff's superior knowledge.

Although Germany surrendered in November 1918, it was not until the following June that Germany and the Allies got round to signing the Treaty of Versailles that formally ended hostilities between the various nations.

With that in mind, local authorities across the UK need to take care how they describe events to be held to mark the ending of 'the war to end all wars.'

Many of us are in the habit of using "1914-1918" war as a descriptive term. Clearly it's safer to switch to "First World War."

7 comments:

Two things.....unrelated, but ond associated with the photo, the other with your comments...1. 11th November 1918 relates to the date that Germany called for a truce, of armitice when fighting would stop. It was not a surrender.Astria-Hungary had called for an armitice some days earlier.The actual peace treaty, enacted in the TofV in June 1919 officially ended the war between the Triple Entente (Russia, France and UK) with Germany and Astria-Hungary....Germany were informed if they refused to sign, war would re-commence.Subsequently, there were a number of other peace treaties between other combinations of countries.....the USA signed peace treaties in 1921..separate ones with Austria, Hungary and Germany. while the last to be signed was with the Central Power of the Otterman Empire (now Turkey) was in 1923.So while, the Armitice recognises the time when the guns fell silent...the date of the war ending varied according to the relative permutations of counties signing peace treaties during the five year following the truce.Historians tend to indicate that the Treaty of Lausanne (Ottoman), 1923 is the legal ending of WW1..

2. Re the photo...the traditionally butcher-style tile fronted is protected.But more interestingly, behind the modern shop sign remains the name of the original butcher....Mumby...and Mumby, as a family, have been butchers in Brigg since thr English Civil War...mid C17th.At the time of Mumby's shop in Queen St., the family owned another shop, now Relix just off the Market Place...another time, they also owned the butchers, now called Barnards..

Two things.....unrelated, but ond associated with the photo, the other with your comments...1. 11th November 1918 relates to the date that Germany called for a truce, of armitice when fighting would stop. It was not a surrender.Astria-Hungary had called for an armitice some days earlier.The actual peace treaty, enacted in the TofV in June 1919 officially ended the war between the Triple Entente (Russia, France and UK) with Germany and Astria-Hungary....Germany were informed if they refused to sign, war would re-commence.Subsequently, there were a number of other peace treaties between other combinations of countries.....the USA signed peace treaties in 1921..separate ones with Austria, Hungary and Germany. while the last to be signed was with the Central Power of the Otterman Empire (now Turkey) was in 1923.So while, the Armitice recognises the time when the guns fell silent...the date of the war ending varied according to the relative permutations of counties signing peace treaties during the five year following the truce.Historians tend to indicate that the Treaty of Lausanne (Ottoman), 1923 is the legal ending of WW1..

2. Re the photo...the traditionally butcher-style tile fronted is protected.But more interestingly, behind the modern shop sign remains the name of the original butcher....Mumby...and Mumby, as a family, have been butchers in Brigg since thr English Civil War...mid C17th.At the time of Mumby's shop in Queen St., the family owned another shop, now Relix just off the Market Place...another time, they also owned the butchers, now called Barnards..

The end of WW2 is much more precise..Both Germany and Japan actually surrendered, not a truce...But in 1950's the US was at war with Korea during which, Korea called for an armitice, but to date, no peace treaty has been signed between USA/Korea...

The end of WW2 is much more precise..Both Germany and Japan actually surrendered, not a truce...But in 1950's the US was at war with Korea during which, Korea called for an armitice, but to date, no peace treaty has been signed between USA/Korea...

Some war memorials carry the dates of 1914 - 1919, seemungly reflecting when the peace treaty was signed, (accepting the notion that WW1 was still a very raw experience and that the TofV's official peace treaty would have been a very major news item at the time when war memorials were being constructed in villages and towns) rather than when the Armitice commenced.Also war memorials often carry names of those who died after 1918...these casualties often died of war wounds/diseases related to WW1....the Monument contains some names of those who died in Brigg hospital, or at home from injuries...

Some war memorials carry the dates of 1914 - 1919, seemungly reflecting when the peace treaty was signed, (accepting the notion that WW1 was still a very raw experience and that the TofV's official peace treaty would have been a very major news item at the time when war memorials were being constructed in villages and towns) rather than when the Armitice commenced.Also war memorials often carry names of those who died after 1918...these casualties often died of war wounds/diseases related to WW1....the Monument contains some names of those who died in Brigg hospital, or at home from injuries...

I mentioned the English Civil War earlier, apart from the Royalist's trences in Brigg and the fatal skirmish in the Market Place, the name Civil War is misleading...the war was a religious war with different Christian groups vieing for power and for a prominence of their particular religious doctrine. All the protestants sects were suspicious of each other, but detested Roman Catholics.The Middle East now reflects what was happening in the UK during the C17th....and they do say, history keeps repeating itself...

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