According to reports the Islamist animals who murdered J. Christopher Stevens, our Ambassador to Libya, sodomized him before during and after he was killed. They followed the same formula they used when they murdered Gadhafi.

To these 7th century warriors doing such things shows the extreme disrespect they have for the male victims. In their half- witted minds this manly act makes the victim a woman in death and in life after death.

They are misogynist skunks who hate women because of their own sick feelings of inadequacy. Hillary Clinton should have known these things but apparently never bothered herself with details.

The blood of J. Christopher Stevens, a man who happened to be Gay but had a love of America that compelled him to step forward to work for our nation, is absolutely on the hands of Hillary Clinton as the fake she is and Barack Obama for the incompetent he is.

Clinton is a woman with no particular qualifications except that she took one for the team and allowed herself to be publicly humiliated by are sexually depraved husband.

Because she put ice on her lip and sung Stand by your man on 60 Minutes the poster boy for degradation of women was elected and reelected to the presidency. The Democrats who are a Party that rewards degenerates have been thanking Hillary ever since she and her husband sold their last pardon on January 20, 2001.

We know her career path. She pushed aside all qualified and loyal New York State Democrats (Nita Lowey comes to mind) so she could run in the deepest Blue State that suited her fancy without a difficult race.

She tried to be the president but was out race carded as her pervert husband put it .

From what I understand Chris Stevens loved Libya and her people. He was a tremendously courageous man and the fact that he happened to be gay is just a footnote. Gay or straight, our people are risking their lives in these hell holes while their bosses are so cowardly they hardly mention their betrayal and death.

These men were betrayed, not just by those who took them to "a safe place" and into the hands of the terrorists, but by the very people who are charged with their safety.

“In their half- witted minds this manly act makes the victim a woman in death and in life after death. They are misogynist skunks who hate women because of their own sick feelings of inadequacy. Hillary Clinton should have known these things but apparently never bothered herself... “

They didn’t butt-rape him because he was gay. They butt-raped him because he was an infidel and they had the opportunity. They would do it to any of us, no matter how John Wayne you think you are. These are the animals we are dealing with. This isn’t a difference in politics or even religion—this is a war between civilization and barbarians.

Having a gay ambassador in a Muslim country IS an issue. It puts him in added danger in a variety of ways, even if he did remain celibate...which is unlikely. His rape was not only a disrespect to him personally, but also a message to our government...who surely know the truth of this no matter what they say.

That may be, but it is vastly overshadowed by the criminal negligence and incompetence shown by doing absolutely nothing when warned an attack on the embassy was coming! Two former Seals and another employee also died as a result!

Gays think they are normal and will be treated like typical people, forgetting that typical people go about their business quietly, not wearing a sandwich board describing what they do in the bedroom or with whom.

They are spoiled by how they are treated in the US due to their constant screams of discrimination and let their guard down when they mistakenly think that everyone in the world loves them, forgetting that only the United States has a Constitution, Declaratino of Independence and Bill of Rights.

It’s pure coincidence, but Stevens bears a strong likeness to Peter O’Toole, when he played TE Lawrence in the movie..( maybe someone can do a side by side) Lawrence’s sexual orientation in part explained his attraction to the Arab world.

This is a red herring. If the men sodomized him, which I think there is a good chance they did, since they did it to Qaddafi with a knife. It didn't matter if he was gay or not. And any man who would sodomize another man, I would describe as a sadist homosexual.

I know the Muslims have the reputation of being adamantly against homosexuality, but the Taliban are known for being homosexual.

Ambassador Stevens was killed because the Obama administration ignored the “actionable intelligence” in Libya and elsewhere and did nothing to prevent attacks. They did not even have heightened awareness for 9/11.

The video and Ambassador Stevens’ sexual orientation are both red herrings. We don't need Stevens sexual orientation to prove gross neglect by the state department and Obama for ignoring recent terrorists incidents in Libya and elsewhere.

Not saying that Mr. Stevens paraded his lifestyle but the person responsible for sending him there had to have known there would be clash of cultures before he was sent and the risk of death if he was discovered.

There are plenty of gay Arabs and plenty of gay Arab leaders - Arafat for one, but the rumors are always thick about lots of others. And lets not get started with the religious leaders.

The whole problem here was overconfidence and negligence, plus our institutional incompatibilities with whats needed to get the job done in these other cultures.

T.E. Lawrence, for one, had the knowledge and foresight and leeway to create his own personally loyal Bedouin security detail, which he selected and recruited himself using his knowledge of clan loyalties. This sort of thing squares the circle of scary foreigners (Marines, Blackwater) providing security but annoying the locals vs unreliable and compromised local officials. That sort of thing has been bureaucratized out of the options available to our modern Lawrences.

He was a tremendously courageous man and the fact that he happened to be gay is just a footnote.

No it is not just a footnote but a diplomatic blunder on a massive scale.

Nobody is stating anything against him being gay as a person only on the methodology behind the idiots in our government who thought sending a gay man as ambassador to an islamic country was a good idea, instead of someplace where his life would not be in danger because of his gay life style like Europe.

These threads are about a diplomatic department that does not have a clue about who they are dealing with on such a level that it is mind boggling.

Its pure coincidence, but Stevens bears a strong likeness to Peter OToole, when he played TE Lawrence in the movie..( maybe someone can do a side by side) Lawrences sexual orientation in part explained his attraction to the Arab world.

That's the actual T.E. Lawrence, not Peter O'Toole.

Lawrence died in 1935, at age 46, from a motorcycle accident in the UK.

Not all gays wear their sexuality on their sleeve. You
may even know a gay or two without knowing it. Per-
sonally, those who keep their activities to themselves
do not bother me at all. I work w/a few gays and I’m
on friendly terms with a few lesbians. Even invited to
a lesbian wedding recently. I asked “When is it?” She
answered “Next February”. I replied “Ah, I’m busy that
day”. She laughed.

I don’t know if Ambassador Stevens was gay but he was
born in my small hometown and I had the pleasure of
having his grandfather Elmer “Chief” Stevens for a
substitute teacher several times in HS. That folks are only
speculating about the sexual preference of Chris Stevens
is a sign to me that he was not one to flaunt his sexuality
and I doubt that bastards who killed him knew or cared.

. . . centuries of Islamism's practice of consanguineous marriages produced this madness? They cannot be dissuaded.. this could be the reason that they only respond to overwhelming power as any insane person is likely to obey.

Notice I said Islamism to indicate that I believe that it is a minority that is the problem.

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posted on 09/16/2012 12:32:17 PM PDT
by WilliamofCarmichael
(If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)

His rape was not only a disrespect to him personally, but also a message to our government...who surely know the truth of this no matter what they say.

The only version of that story I've seen was from a Lebanese news story in Arabic, which claimed that Stevens got the same treatment as Gaddafi. I suspect it's just the bad guys trying to claim credit for more evil than they actually accomplished.

More reliable reports are that Libyan friendlies transported Stevens suffering from smoke inhalation from the burning consulate to the Benghazi Medical Center, where he died. Reportedly, the Libyan doctors worked on him for 90 minutes before giving up. They also reported he had no injuries inconsistent with smoke inhalation. Stevens had been scheduled to meet with some of those same doctors the next morning in order to hook them up with American doctors eager to help them improve the BMC's operation.

Mr. Stevens had served in Israel, Egypt, Syria and Saudi Arabia, but Libya became the center of his career. He served there three times, beginning in the years before Gaddafi fell, when the mercurial leader was trying to repair decades of poor relations with Washington. Mr. Stevens was the No. 2 U.S. diplomat in Libya from 2007 to 2009.

Everything I have read about Ambassador Stevens has been nothing less than honorable. I do feel that someone who may have known he was gay and still let him stay in Libya, knowing the feelings muslims have for gays, did him a huge disservice.

Working in aviation, most gay flight attendants I know, are loud and proud. This is not to say all gays are but I do think they are sheltered here in the US and should not expect the same attitude in other countries.

I can only hope the animals who tortured and killed Ambassador Stevens are captured and burned alive.

Sending a Sodomite to represent us to Muslims or even Christians is as tone deaf as sending a female Secretary of State to North Korea, China, Saudi Arabia, and Etc. I can assure you that our hippie notion that equality means interchangeability doesn’t always play well with others who don’t share our fascination with affirming the ones they don’t respect by forcing them to genuflect at their feet in order to negotiate peacefully with our nation. There are ways to push for the inalienable rights of all mankind without going around and intentionally stepping on everybody’s toes all the time. And it is not an inalienable right for a woman to be treated identically as a man or vice versa or for a sexual deviant to have his particular deviance approved of by those who don’t care to. I, for one, don’t care to be represented by sexual deviants or have our government be full of token people to make it “look like America”. Just because our nation has many crooks and ignorant people doesn’t mean that we need to elect stupid crooks to rule over us.

Watching Rice today was an exercise in anger management. One of the SEALS who were killed was a big gamer. Hours before he posted that we should not be surprised if he were to be killed that night. He reported seeing local "protective" forces taking pictures of the compound.

He was serving his Country, he died serving his Country. He is an American Hero. He is an American Martyr. There fixed it for you.

Although he served his country, no doubt he is getting paid a lot more than I have ever been paid, and I don't recall being told that my job is heroic or that I'm "serving". And while dying a violent and torturous death is the ultimate price to pay, just being lynched is not heroic by itself. Did he voluntarily die to save others? Did he die while fighting and killing untold savage murderers? I'm just saying not everybody who dies is a hero. The knee jerk reaction to canonize this American as a hero does a disservice to those who do truly heroic deeds or live lives of heroic struggle. Now I'm not saying that he hasn't done those things, just that nobody has informed me what those things are. And while I'm sure there will be a full tribute given at this time of eulogy, we all will get that with very few exceptions and we're not all heroes.

You may be right but serving in foreign Embassy, especially in the Middle East is dangerous, and those serving there are aware of that. I don’t think his salary has anything to do with the subject. I might use the term hero too liberally but I feel the first responders at 911 that died were heroes not just the ones running into the building. Even though they were doing what they get paid for. I consider my relatives serving in the military heroes, as well as policeman and fireman. You did not state your job but I may even consider you a hero. Your criticism does give me pause for thought about overusing the term.

There is a video of the Libyans carrying the ambassador. The don’t look so friendly to me. The idea that attackers looted the embassy then atacked the safe house and then just walked away leaving the ambassador behind is of believable. The usual MO of rape and torture is more likely.

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