O’Reilly was still amazed at how many “demagogues on the right” are still angry at him over “thump the Bible” comments. Megyn Kelly guessed it was likely borne from the more conservative pundits that have a “personal dislike” of O’Reilly, though O’Reilly suggested it’s more about trying to attain power. He said that they are trying to “diminish the power of the program,” making a reference to MSNBC doing that for years. He called himself a “non-ideological guy” who conservatives get upset over for not sticking to the conservative script.