As I read, or understand, these rules the Seahawks fall into the “Lateral Move” category to fill their open coaching positions;

As described in the rules there are two (and only two) coaching positions 1) Head Coach and 2) Assistant Coach.

Two Tiers of Coaching Staffs. For purposes of this Anti-Tampering Policy, each coaching staff is divided into two tiers: (1) head coach, and (2) all assistant coaches. Although each individual club is permitted to use whatever structure and titles it desires for its coaching staff, the two tiers described here will be adhered to for administration of this Policy.

So, an Assistant Head Coach is still a level two assistant coach (and not a head coach) for administration of the anti-tampering policy. No matter how you structure the title Assistant Head Coach in Charge of Offense, Assistant Head Coach With Play-Calling Responsibilities, or Offensive Coordinator, for the purpose of this policy they are the same, and the same holds true for all assistant coaches be they a QB coach, Wide Receivers coach or Assistant Strength & Conditioning coach.

Why is this important? Since they are replacing Bevell and Cable (assistant coaches) with other assistant coaches, assumabley from a different team, it’s considered a “Lateral Move”. The policy states;

. Lateral Move. If a club is interested in discussing an assistant coachingposition with an assistant coach who is contractually obligated to anotherclub at any time prior to the opening of the employer club’s trainingcamp, it will be considered a lateral move, and the employer club is underno obligation to grant the coach the opportunity to discuss the positionwith the interested club. At the discretion of the employer club, however,such permission may be voluntarily granted.

Meaning the employer club is under NO obligation to allow the Seahawks to talk to ANY assistant that is under contract unless they are replacing Carroll (then other rules apply).

Now if the Seahawks wanted to hire, say, someone’s QB coach for their OC then one would think a club would voluntarily grant permission to further that coaches career, but they certainly do not have to. More importantly it’s very doubtful they would grant permission to let their OC become the Seahawks OC (no matter what fancy title you want to add) if he’s under contract.

So, the Seahawks are required to find replacements that are either;A) Any former Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator, Assistant coach, or man on the street that isn’t under a contract or under control of a former contract.B) Any lower level Assistant that a controlling club is willing to allow to leave to further their careers.C)Coaches from the NCAA, that may or may not have their own rules or pay-outs.

As with most things, outside our message board, this greatly limits our (the fans) wish list from the reality of what the Seahawks can actually accomplish.

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Wenhawk wrote:In the past the Seahawks have always wanted to see their coaches promote

"a club would voluntarily grant permission to further that coaches career"

It is pretty shady of an org to block they're coaches. In the case of Carmichael in NO, he will never get a HC job unto he gets a shot to call his own plays.

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This may all be true, but it’s still up to New Orleans to decide if it’s in his and/or their best interest to allow him to make that lateral move.

This of course assumes his contract runs past this year, and I have no idea what, or how to find out, his contract status.

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adeltaY wrote:Great stuff, Fidelis. Just a note, DeFillipo from Philly is done with his contract so he can get any job he wants.... Please come to us!

The lack of interview announcements makes me think (hopefully) they have their eye on someone still in the playoffs.

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Just by the nature of the Anti-tampering rules an OC to OC move seems pretty unlikely.

I suspect they are looking at either freeagent OC’s (currently not under contract) or lesser assistants that have had play calling experience in the past.

I would hope Pete would be looking for someone he believes could replace himself when the time comes. That could be the hardest part of this search, if indeed it’s a criteria.

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FidelisHawk wrote:Just by the nature of the Anti-tampering rules an OC to OC move seems pretty unlikely.

I suspect they are looking at either freeagent OC’s (currently not under contract) or lesser assistants that have had play calling experience in the past.

I would hope Pete would be looking for someone he believes could replace himself when the time comes. That could be the hardest part of this search, if indeed it’s a criteria.

I dunno, PC seems awfully confident he has a lot of time in front of him as a coach. Not sure if that's where his mind is. Plus that's completely up to Paul Allen. You can wish all day for your replacement to be the guy you decide but the owner is the man who holds the keys.

For those of you that keep bringing up Paul Allen involvement, this is who if anyone Pete answers too or a representative from, only when it's a business altering situation would Paul get involved.

Vulcan was the Roman god of fire. Tossed from the heavens as a child, he grew up as a strong-willed outsider and free thinker, indifferent to the whims of the gods. This independence fueled his approach as a smith and craftsman, helping him forge works that no one else thought were possible. When Paul Allen and Jody Allen first thought of creating a company whose mission was to find smart solutions for some of the world’s biggest challenges, the myth of Vulcan seemed fitting – and in 1986, Vulcan Inc. was formed.With headquarters in Seattle, Washington, Vulcan oversees and manages a broad compilation of projects, investments and companies all over the world. We are that big umbrella company under which a host of signature Allen family entities fall under – like Vulcan Real Estate, the Allen Institute for Brain Science, the Flying Heritage Collection and the Seattle Seahawks, just to name a few. We are also constantly innovating in-house, serving as an incubator for fledgling technology, ambitious global campaigns and new philanthropic efforts.Vulcan's approach is to discover and develop smart, data-driven solutions and create inspiring experiences that help tackle some of the world's toughest challenges.

Vulcan Sports and Entertainment[edit]Vulcan Sports and Entertainment (VSE) is responsible for all financial and business operations of Allen's sports-related properties including the Portland Trail Blazers, the Seattle Seahawks, the Seattle Sounders and the Moda Center. In the fall of 2012, Peter McLoughlin was named CEO of Vulcan Sports and Entertainment after Tod Leiweke left the post to run the Tampa Bay Lightning.The Green Sports Alliance was conceived and founded by Vulcan Inc. and the Natural Resources Defense Council. Inaugural members and partners of the Alliance include the Seattle Seahawks, Portland Trail Blazers, Seattle Sounders FC. Green Sports Alliance Members have made a commitment to improve their environmental performance; reducing waste, conserving energy and water, and eliminating toxic chemicals, among many other ongoing initiatives and accomplishments.[11]

So in reality I would think Peter McLoughlin is the guy at any meetings.

If you look at the team site looks who's name pops up as.

Peter McLoughlin President, CEO of Vulcan Sports and Entertainment Named president of the Seattle Seahawks and First & Goal, Inc. on September 23, 2010, Peter McLoughlin is responsible for all financial and business operations, sales and marketing, sponsorship, and administration of the Seahawks

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Blah blah blah so Pete’s direct boss may be McGlouglin. Paul Allen still employs both of them and JS too. Everyone answers to some one and you don’t get to Paul Allen’s station in life by passing the buck. You can be damn sure that Paul Allen is paying attention and when he want’s something done it gets done regardless of who gives the order.

brimsalabim wrote:Blah blah blah so Pete’s direct boss may be McGlouglin. Paul Allen still employs both of them and JS too. Everyone answers to some one and you don’t get to Paul Allen’s station in life by passing the buck. You can be damn sure that Paul Allen is paying attention and when he want’s something done it gets done regardless of who gives the order.

He must be a real busy guy trying to make sure every decision in all those companies has his blessings and involvement before anyone does anything so he isn't passing the buck, thank god he bought a Teleporter for the Experience Music Project and Science Fiction Museum and Hall of Fame, Star Trek had a older model they just needed to rebuild.

Oh and Blah Blah Blah.

At least we know who didn't want Haushka resigned now and cut him, we were blaming Pete and John and should have been blaming Paul Allen. Were not in the playoffs because of Paul.

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