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Can you design the ultimate augmented-reality system for warfighters?

November 6, 2012

PIXNet (credit: DARPA)

Imagine a single camera that can fuse (integrate) images across a wide spectrum on light, from visible light to near-infrared and far-infrared (thermal) images (for night vision), replacing multiple cameras.

It would be part of a head-up display (HUD) that is helmet-mounted. It would be lightweight, low-cost, easy to use, and draw minimal power. And it would interface wirelessly with an Android-based smart phone for fusing images and networking among units, running any needed apps. Also, it should be designed to allow for manufacturing 10,000 units per month at a cost of $3,300 per unit.

Comments (68)

@Marcos:
Just one example of your stupidness:
“. You obviously dont care, Im just giving you the last drop of respect you have left. Thanks for proving me a genius while proving yourself an idiot. Implicitly of course, you cant prove 2+2=4. =)”

You claim to have won an argument against some Mr.X on a website, and by allegedly losing it I proved you a genius?
And you ask why I want you to look up the word proof?
Or logic?

I think I know exactly how to do this little job. I designed a camera several years ago which can almost certainly meet the spec. At the time, it appeared to have limited application, but I think that the technology has arrived to make it more generally usable. Totally different concept than any existing camera.

I am not answering you particularly on any point, i just have two or three words to say about what you seem to ignore by focusing on the narrow premises of this article i really am disgusted by the word “Warfighters” to hide the obviousness of the terms recasting as people who just fight…the wars. get it ? verbal dissonance. How about competing to aid idiots who think that if someone gives you license to kill, its ok to do it with style. weik-up smell the coffee. When will you care about what this really means, where are we going with all these little inventions to kill better.
I am Dissapoint

I tend to disapprove of this type of application of Science in general…but: The ultimate warfighter system ends the need for wars, without weaponry. Solar powered, aug reality piloted drone, possible 24/7 ops with the aid of lithium-air batteries, very large wingspan for stability and glider-like range, use for surveillance and supply drops. Solid enough to do large drops, potential vehicle drops in later versions as solar/battery tech advances. Use mobile, advanced versions of MEG (Magnetoencephalography) imaging systems to track all people in various regions and determine who is in distress or in severely poor health, and why. As long as there are people suffering somewhere on this planet, the concept of wars will remain. Thinking this suffering is a given, and not something that can be wholly risen above, particularly in such a capable age, is extreme folly

and wow…I went way off-topic…anyway, basically an Oculus Rift controlling that bird. No need to get fancy with the rest, just a simple customizable flight interface, with a nice control setup. Our military can work from home now, how nice is that?

oh, that explains a lot. Bri, when the ball is IN YOUR COURT, you STOP watching and you HIT the freaking ball…!

btw Mr.X, before the editor removed the video, I noticed a reply from you about the “grain of salt”..

no, I truly mean it! Bri can’t even FATHOM your level of logic. But, this doesn’t say much in favor of you either (nor against), it is like saying a boulder can’t comprehend 2+2=6 even being a wrong statement…

@Marcos: look see! You hit the ball in my court, and I wish to hit it back. In case you haven’t noticed, this is a website devoted to science, not personal conversations. Sometimes I think you and Mr. X should get a motel room. There is nothing in this article that I’m interested in discussing. Anything you say is superfluous to the intentions of this website. Let’s try and keep it on target, so we don’t bore the other thousands of readers with this nonsense.

” In case you haven’t noticed, this is a website devoted to science, not personal conversations.”

HAHAHA You are doing science now?! haha when I think you can go no lower you seem to always surprise me…

“Anything you say is superfluous to the intentions of this website.”

And you dare still call me obnoxious! heh, like I said, you don’t seem to know what the word even means, to commit it without realizing… “forgive them lord, for they do not know what they do”; ring a bell?

keep denying it, Bri. Hide your head in the sand, but I’m still coming and you better wake up.

” Let’s try and keep it on target, so we don’t bore the other thousands of readers with this nonsense.

You are right, I should write less boring nonsense, like yourself! Mr/s. Scientist. HAHAHA

“Hmm … would this be a killer app/system for Google Glass, or what? — Ed.”

It could make it safer for anyone walking alone at night, or even be used to assess how well insulated your home is. Perhaps even spot that your friend is running a temperature, or an appliance is running dangerously hot? I’m sure there’s lots of potential uses and misuses out there.

I can’t wait to see how good the display is on Google Glass. It has so much potential, although I doubt it will be widely adopted initially.

There are way of probing what we don’t know. All starts with making yourself more aware of what’s going on presently in the first place, as all of us are guilty of mental wanderings at inappropriate times.

I find it interesting that everybody has adopted the Pentagon’s latest marketing jargon, “warfighter,” as though it were a real word. This one seems to have been extruded a year or two ago from some consultant’s powerpoint presentation, and now everybody uses it. I suppose people like it because it’s not only “gender” neutral, but presumably species/life neutral (as a fabricated word having no usage history of application within any context discussing people, it could theoretically be applied to anything; I can imagine them easily enough describing some new Reaper drone as a “warfighter;” calling it a soldier or a warrior would probably be too much of a stretch for most people).
It’s tiresome though. A soldier is a soldier, a warrior is a warrior, if they’re not “in combat” or there is no war to fight, they are in training/reserve. A “warfighter” is supposed to be a soldier in combat, so what, soldiers become “warfighters” when we deploy them, and revert back to being soldiers when they return? If we are, say, between wars, like the Swiss have been for centuries, are there no “warfighters”? So then they can’t use all of this shiny equipment? I doubt the Military Industrial Complex would like that conclusion much (I guess they’d sell this stuff to potential warfighters, or future warfighters, or homeland warfighters, I don’t know).
One of the more obvious examples of powerpoint, marketing and internet talking points distorting the language.

Gender has nothing to do with it. Soldier is gender neutral. So is marine. And sailor. And pilot. But as an ex-soldier myself I would never want to be referred to as a Marine or any of the lesser species of warfighters. And I will not speak for all the jarheads out there but if I had to bet I’d guess they do not wish to be mistaken for soldiers or swabbies. The military (which is the same type of word that makes an amalgam of all the combined services) needed a word to refer to all the services who fight our battles.

Navy SEALs find themselves fighting in the mountains of Afghanistan as do Air Force Special Ops people. They’re not soldiers. They’re really really not. It’s no different than the word triggerpuller- which differentiates between ordinary soldier and combat arms (which I was a part of). It is an important distinction. At the end of the day, a word comes into being if it fills a need, namely a lack of a term for something that needs to be expressed and I think warfighter fits the bill.

So what if there’s “no usage history of application?” Shakespeare introduced lots of new words into the language. When Isaac Asimov first wrote of “robotics,” he thought the word already existed. He had no idea he was coining a new word. Then when I was a kid Jacques Cousteau came up with the word “scuba” for Self-Contained-Underwater-Breathing-Apparatus.”

You don’t write “the great” in this context like she wrote “the ultimate” because the latter implies uniqueness while the former do not! Thus “a great” nor “the great”. You nailed down paragraphs yes, proceed to the next step now.=)

She already do most of the time. But I can see why you and Bri would benefit from ignoring me and thus also recommend you do it. Ignorance is bliss.

When you say “can you design the great…” it sounds strange, like you translated to japanese and back. Like always, the angel there was KIND to you and gave you ONE possible synonym. When we say “ultimate colloquially” we dont instantly deny any and every possibility of progress. And even when we DO design the LITERALLY ULTIMATE design, there can still be trade-offs on what “the best” is. I tried to enlighten you about this with my comment below about pareto optimal, which you didn’t understand and thus felt compelled to suggest to be ignored, but hey, I never lose hope with humans:-)

Contrary to Bri and yourself, I’m not so arrogant to get all worked up by the OBVIOUS statement of my ignorance (and I DO FEEL extremely good, yes, thanks). Now if you stated anything about my ignorance being anything AT ALL comparable to yours, THEEEEEN we would at least need some facts.;-)

So, there. Now that I have “showed” how you AND bri “come across”, why dont you return the favor and deliver your promises?

That’s the problem.
“When you say “can you design the great…” it sounds strange, like you translated to japanese and back.”

Yeah.And?That’s exactly my point, the meaning feels the same to me.If you use “ultimate” in a coloquial sense and in conjunction with the article “the”, this still implies uniqueness (the ultimate).I thought the literal meaning was used because of the little word the.Otherwise, semantically, the comment would have to mean “can you creat the greatest”, the great is sometimes used when speaking about something which is/almost is numinous(the great prophet etc).This would fit well with the tendency to exaggerate when trying to sell something.

Anyway, the editors knowledge is surely superior to mine, and I already regrett exposing my carelessnes of thought.

Btw: You didn’t even understand my point (even when I’m wrong).This maybe due to negligence on my part, but rude people don’t necessarily instill a “great desire for communication” in those unfortunate enough to have to deal with them (well, I could choose to ignore you, but this would have consequnces).

It is hard enough to refrain from giving in to the natural/cultural standard response, which would be starting to conduct ones exchanges with those people in a like manner, or even going beyond “tit for tat” to “teach him/her/them a lesson.”

In the end, even if sme is wrong, this doesn’t warrant your smug attacks against him/her, or it.If you have nothing nice or important to say, you may want to think about keeping quiet.Otherwise, you are at best wasting your time.This -of course- is up to you.

Now you may disagree with my line of reasoning (or rather the written down impression I got from reading your comments) of your behavior, but you should- if you are practically inclined- bear in mind that the meaning of communication lies in the responses you get.Notices the plural s.It’s not something I alone think.

I am surely not the only person who takes “offense” (or is slightly annoyed, like when a fly repeatedly tries to land on a delicious dish in front of you) with the way you administer your “schoolmastering”, or at least deems it inappropiate for supposedly mature persons.

But many people are wiser than the unexperienced youth that I am (which btw has plenty of years ahead to better itself/himself) and choose not to express their sentiments.

” Like always, the angel there was KIND to you and gave you ONE possible synonym. When we say “ultimate colloquially” we dont instantly deny any and every possibility of progress. And even when we DO design the LITERALLY ULTIMATE design, there can still be trade-offs on what “the best” is. ”

You didn’t “give” me anything I didn’t already know.Besides, your allegedly superior intellect should already have noticed the comment of the editor, who is therefore the kind (according to your reasoning) angel bestowing mystical gifts on me. Thanks, Amara;)

Why then, did you do something as redundant as posting basically the same response, if it isn’t solely to feel pleased with yourself?!

If you didn’t see that comment, don’t think it is a given that others read yours (as you think I read your comment).

Your habit of jumping to conclusions and infering stuff from some comments on a website only providest evidence to my opinion that your judgement is clouded by your own arrogance.Otherwise, you would be able to admit that people who are in the habit of just writing down stuff, without correction and thinking through (just like you) could possibly decide to do things diffently.This would then mean they aren’t dumb, but only lazy.

Being lazy about less important things and saving ones energy for the engagement of those things that are of greater importance, is not dumb but very smart (look in the mirror, think opposite).

“I tried to enlighten you about this with my comment below about pareto optimal, which you didn’t understand and thus felt compelled to suggest to be ignored, but hey, I never lose hope with humans:-)”

Well, I didn’t even see that comment.I just wanted to “tease” you.Btw: Your comment was made before I posted anything on this article, so -thinking you to be as smart as you think you are-you almost certainly (study probability theory if you think almost is redundant) didn’t write this post with the intention to enlighten ME.

Anyway: You’re just stating the obvious with your-pareto comment.Everyone who tried to consciously built a model of something with a higher complexity than your manners (which are simply, awful) has noticed the interdependendess of some variables with others, and thus knows that the word optimal -when refering to a design- is only truly illuminating when the context and aims of the designer are clear.A person in possesion of this “insight” may use their own words, or words stemming from their respective fields (in the case of persons with higher educational attainment) to express this thought.

If you really think you said something profound or new -then well- you may be subjectively right, at least concerning the latter thing, that is, if you think the reader of aforementioned comment is mentally retarded or unknowledgabe (which wouldn’t surprise me, and the ambiguity of this statement is intended, in case you reread your comment, although this assumes some introspection on your part).

If we are speaking about the latter (unkn), some background information would make this easy concept intelligible to everyone who is in possession of good mental health, but you yourself would have looked much dumber for stating superflous and plain things plainly.You’d look like the simpleton you actually are.

If this whole thing were actually of importance to the lives of those who didn’t understand your comment, they’d already learned about this concept with ease.Or could proceed to do so, if they deem it appropriate.

“Contrary to Bri and yourself, I’m not so arrogant to get all worked up by the OBVIOUS statement of my ignorance (and I DO FEEL extremely good, yes, thanks). Now if you stated anything about my ignorance being anything AT ALL comparable to yours, THEEEEEN we would at least need some facts.;-)”

Says the guy who lashes out at me because I said people could safely ignore you.

“So, there. Now that I have “showed” how you AND bri “come across”, why dont you return the favor and deliver your promises?”

I’ll behave like you and start with the “facts”:You sir, are an Idiot (putting the necesarry emphasis would make me look like your second account). You are a small, ignorant idiot (repetition for your puny mind).

ACCEPT this!Your denial dumbs you down even more, even though it doesn’t matter practically for someone like you.

Your presumptuous demeanor can only be topped by the profound idiocy and senselessnes of your plump claims.Even my choice of words can’t compete with your attitude on this account.

Don’t get me started on the demands you issue, which you probably didn’t even notice, given the low level of awareness you have shown.

Of course, if your were less of a wannabe, you may have had a chance to notice that presuming the dumbest meaning of an ambigous statement in the comment part of some website in conjuction with ad-hominems is tantamount to trying to “force”
others to abide to your standards -which you yourself don’t comply with-, while answering your drivel.

If this isn’t obvious enough for your 1/2 braincells: If one choses not to answer, others may believe in your claims, resulting in a worse reception of any further comment on the side of your “opponent”.This would be unecessary if you were actually smart enough to keep your egoism in check.

Anyway, for the record: Marcos Marin (or whatever your real name is),intelligence, empathy and manner are used here for the first time in one sentence without negation.Thank you for making this possible (at last, you were good for something,namely, creating something, after your definition of the word)!

Summary: You think we are as dumb as you are.Google Dunning-Kruger effect.Now you can attack my spelling and grammar to feel good again.Otherwise, “rationalize”.

Simple, I said it SOUNDS strange, not talking semantics anymore, it may feel the same to you but if you want to sound like tarzan, go ahead, ignore me.

“If you use “ultimate” in a coloquial sense and in conjunction with the article “the”, this still implies uniqueness (the ultimate).I thought the literal meaning was used because of the little word the.”

you thought wrong, every language has idiosyncrasies. it is almost redundant in this case, almost because there are conceivably cases where you could say “a ultimate” but they are much more rare than “the ultimate”, thus they almost form one single term. I don’t blame you, even babies have more logical grammars than the parents they are learning from, but if you dont want to sound like a baby, then those illogical idiosyncrasies MUST be accounted for. Of course, you are always free to ignore me.

“Otherwise, semantically, the comment would have to mean “can you creat the greatest”, the great is sometimes used”

that IS pretty much what it means!

“when speaking about something which is/almost is numinous(the great prophet etc).This would fit well with the tendency to exaggerate when trying to sell something.”

That is the problem, “the great prophet” also implies there may be others, not only prophets, but also great ones. I agree with the marketing assertion though.

“Anyway, the editors knowledge is surely superior to mine, and I already regrett exposing my carelessnes of thought.”

good.

“Btw: You didn’t even understand my point (even when I’m wrong).”

I think I understand more than you understand yourself. But if that makes you feel good…

“This maybe due to negligence on my part, but rude people don’t necessarily instill a “great desire for communication” ”

I wish more people would think like you, more peace is always welcome.

“in those unfortunate enough to have to deal with them (well, I could choose to ignore you, but this would have consequnces).”

You people are indeed unfortunate.

“It is hard enough to refrain from giving in to the natural/cultural standard response, which would be starting to conduct ones exchanges with those people in a like manner, or even going beyond “tit for tat” to “teach him/her/them a lesson.””

on the contrary, the standard response seem to be cowardice. I do trust you are superior and overcome the “standards” though.

“In the end, even if sme is wrong, this doesn’t warrant your smug attacks against him/her, or it.”

Are you giving warrants now? mwahaha

“If you have nothing nice or important to say, you may want to think about keeping quiet.”

Are you suggesting censorship? So just because YOU do not consider what I said nice nor important, then I should be censored. And if what I want to say is indeed NOT nice NOR important, however ULTIMATE measure you could possibly come up with, THEN ULTIMATE self censorship should be employed. haha, very nice, I love how humans show up their true selves without realizing. I do think about all possibilities though, and keep quiet when people deserve it. Some of you do not.

Btw, wan’t it you who told a little history about some fat lady you was accused of not being nice to, because according to you was just saying the truth to her? So you are also a hypocrite? mwahaha 2 for Satan – 0 for Mr.X

“Otherwise, you are at best wasting your time.This -of course- is up to you.”

Yeah. And? Nothing that anyone didn’t already knew.

“Now you may disagree with my line of reasoning (or rather the written down impression I got from reading your comments) of your behavior, but you should- if you are practically inclined- bear in mind that the meaning of communication lies in the responses you get.Notices the plural s.It’s not something I alone think.”

The whole world of idiots you find yourself in can believe whatever crap they want (and they SURELY DO), it doesn’t make it any less false. So, good argument there, hehehe, remember it for it will come back to haunt you, sooner than you think.

“I am surely not the only person who takes “offense” (or is slightly annoyed, like when a fly repeatedly tries to land on a delicious dish in front of you) with the way you administer your “schoolmastering”, or at least deems it inappropiate for supposedly mature persons.”

I don’t blame a dog for getting offended when I walk outside its cage. No amount of wise words will sound any different than a bark to them. I truly believed YOU for one was less imprisoned. My mistake.

“But many people are wiser than the unexperienced youth that I am (which btw has plenty of years ahead to better itself/himself) and choose not to express their sentiments.”

If what you call wisdom is a totally calcified mask of social cowardice, then go ahead, repress your honesty under it. Human brain have disastrous decayed brains already by their early 20s, dismally so after their 30s, yes, you do have a few, not plenty, years to move from disaster to abysmal disaster, all unnoticed to you of course, just like you got to your current state. But thanks, for making my youth so apparent;-) Bri seems to disagree with you about my age, you guys might want to “debate” among yourselves, just remember to keep the concepts of chronology and function separate.

“You didn’t “give” me anything I didn’t already know.”

As you said, we can only judge by “impressions” of your communication. In fact you gave evidence of the contrary, not once but again and again, even on this very post. I told it was coming back to haunt you.;-)

“Besides, your allegedly superior intellect should already have noticed the comment of the editor, who is therefore”

So who is the one jumping to conclusions? When did my “reasoning” lead to such? It was YOUR reasoning, I didn’t reason at all about her kindness or lack thereof, I just alluded to her NAME. Simple as that, you arrogant prick! You should thank her alright, but those not kind enough to you do not deserve such respect no matter how wealthy gifts they bring you, right you hypocrite!

“Why then, did you do something as redundant as posting basically the same response, if it isn’t solely to feel pleased with yourself?!”

I feel pleased with myself just by reading your stupid posts, I don’t need to express it to all the idiots around. But again, as you said, you gave no evidence of not needing the redundancy. YOU ARE WELCOME.

“If you didn’t see that comment, don’t think it is a given that others read yours (as you think I read your comment).”

Then you are an even THE GREAT IDIOT (or should I say ultimate here?) for not only ignoring it, but alluding to it without knowing what it is! So you basically say one should ignore something because YOU SAY SO, you ARROGANT DICTATOR!

“Your habit of jumping to conclusions and infering stuff from some comments on a website only providest evidence to my opinion that your judgement is clouded by your own arrogance.”

All the easier to prove me wrong, and yet…

“Otherwise, you would be able to admit that people who are in the habit of just writing down stuff, without correction and thinking through (just like you) could possibly decide to do things diffently.This would then mean they aren’t dumb, but only lazy.”

Which is a form of dumbness. So, you think you are superior because you waste people’s time in a “kind” manner, you hypocrite coward! This is a thousand times more offensive than anything you could say! And infinitely more so than anything I COULD say, for the truth is not always kind. Mwahaha

“Being lazy about less important things and saving ones energy for the engagement of those things that are of greater importance, is not dumb but very smart (look in the mirror, think opposite).”

I agree with the last part, but as above, laziness is unacceptable. Unless you are willing to accept being called dumb, and RIGHTFULLY SO, as you YOURSELF admit it here. So, thanks for “rationalizing” for me, Im even more resolute in my crusade against you idiots now.

“Well, I didn’t even see that comment.”

You already said that you moron.

“I just wanted to “tease” you.”

copying idiots will not get you very far.

“Btw: Your comment was made before I posted anything on this article, so”

No it wasn’t! IT WAS A REPLY TO YOUR POST, DUMBASS! Don’t believe me? No problem, unlike your arrogance I CAN AND DO PROVIDE PROOF, just follow the IDENTATION of the post, it IS right below Angel’s one which was a direct reply to you.
LOL SO DUMB! hahaha

Wow, I am disappointed.The only thing you are skilled at is distortion of statements and rhetorics.*Well, the last was wrong.Correcting this after checking this response for evidence on my claims.

“Simple, I said it SOUNDS strange, not talking semantics anymore, it may feel the same to you but if you want to sound like tarzan, go ahead, ignore me.”

You still didn’t get my point.

“you thought wrong, every language has idiosyncrasies. it is almost redundant in this case, almost because there are conceivably cases where you could say “a ultimate” but they are much more rare than “the ultimate”, thus they almost form one single term.”

The first sentence is true (I used idioms, so much for idiosyncracies- see my spelling of the word, idiosyncratic! ), the rest is entirely besides the point.You still didn’t get my point (repetition), I never meant to write “the great” as way as a means of expressing myself, you “genius”.It was just meant to be taken into account for “parsing” the meaning of the headline, to enable others to see this semantic curiosity.Now we see another water-based one, and I’m no Marin.

““Otherwise, semantically, the comment would have to mean “can you creat the greatest”, the great is sometimes used”that IS pretty much what it means!”

Yeah, which means that we can’t do it (memory!?).Read my first post.

“That is the problem, “the great prophet” also implies there may be others, not only prophets, but also great ones. I agree with the marketing assertion though.”

Yeah, that’s exactly my point, there are others.Other prophets, other systems.Germany has one, France has one, India builts one.Where is your problem with wanting to build a better one!?

“I wish more people would think like you, more peace is always welcome.”

Start with yourself.

“You people are indeed unfortunate.”

At least we are better off than you.

“on the contrary, the standard response seem to be cowardice. I do trust you are superior and overcome the “standards” though.”
Look up the word standard.

“Are you giving warrants now? Mwahaha”

Well, maybe you should go back and relearn your vocabulary:)Mwhaha “dumbo”.

“Are you suggesting censorship? So just because YOU do not consider what I said nice nor important, then I should be censored. ”

Maybe you should quote both sentences, not just one.I wrote this is up to you (I see you quoted it later, maybe you should work on your memory).

“Btw, wan’t it you who told a little history about some fat lady you was accused of not being nice to, because according to you was just saying the truth to her? So you are also a hypocrite?”

Maybe you should look up the word hypocrite.It wasn’t about being fat, it was about being honest.If someone asks me for example: how do my cloths look, he gets an honest answer, if I think it necessary or believe this person can stomach it (she couldn’t).

This is not the same as discussing something and then attack the others who partake.Anyway: I told this story, because I made the experience that many people can’t stand the truth/opinion of others, and I wasn’t sure if I’m dealing with such a person.

“I don’t blame a dog for getting offended when I walk outside its cage. No amount of wise words will sound any different than a bark to them. I truly believed YOU for one was less imprisoned. My mistake.”

Well, there are many reasons why I could have written that paragraph, think about it.It is an attempted insult that you seem to think I care about your approval.

“If what you call wisdom is a totally calcified mask of social cowardice, then go ahead, repress your honesty under it.”

Well, you think me a coward because you only have these boxes.There couldn’t be other reasons for this, right!?Don’t be so lazy.

“Bri seems to disagree with you about my age, you guys might want to “debate” among yourselves, just remember to keep the concepts of chronology and function separate.”

The fact that my post again comment is behind this comment shows that your understanding of this site is leaving sth to be desired.This makes your rambling at the end obsolete.Btw: There is a “cs 101″ course at coursera, you may want to look it up.

“As you said, we can only judge by “impressions” of your communication. In fact you gave evidence of the contrary, not once but again and again, even on this very post. I told it was coming back to haunt you.;-)”

You still didn’t get my post, and this seems coming back at you.

“My superior intellect also noticed you failed to comprehend it.”

Yawn.You call that intellect.I call it arrogance coupled with being unvoluntarily funny, since you still didn’t get my point.

“When did my “reasoning” lead to such? It was YOUR reasoning, I didn’t reason at all about her kindness or lack thereof, I just alluded to her NAME.”

You are the prick.This proves you’re just saying this to “win” this argument.You wrote -like always THE kind angel.You can’t seem to talk about Amara, since she didn’t “correct” (I knew that meaning^^) me elsewhere (although I sometimes commented on her comments).You see, your reasoning ability is weak, since your memory is not properly developed.

“Why then, did you do something as redundant as posting basically the same response, if it isn’t solely to feel pleased with yourself?!””I feel pleased with myself just by reading your stupid posts.”

That’s why you are dumb, you miscorrect what you didn’t understand.I guess you are the kind of person who after buying thinks “he got the better of that car-salesman”.

Btw: I gave plenty of evidence (you know what you wrote, I hope), you on the contrary need repetition.Look one paragraph above this.

“If you didn’t see that comment, don’t think it is a given that others read yours (as you think I read your comment).”

“Then you are an even THE GREAT IDIOT (or should I say ultimate here?) for not only ignoring it, but alluding to it without knowing what it is!”
Your style: An is wrong.You sound like a baby.Deliberately wrong is still wrong.Lazyness!

Buy a dictionary.You were mocking me for my careless English, but the way you express yourself makes it obvious that you don’t know all these nice words you use.Look up allude.Or, if you know it’s meaning, go read the wikipedia article on logic instead.Can only be one of these things, or wait, maybe you are deliberately foolish.How do we call a foolish person, right: a fool.

“All the easier to prove me wrong, and yet…”

Look up the word prove.I already did prove you wrong, if I take your posts and what is contained in them as a benchmark.Anyway, you surely did notice that perceiving myself to do this would be inconsistent with my claim that some posts on a website don’t amount to much.At least not when used by untrained humans.Anyway: You seem to have a problem with admitting you were wrong.Maybe I was wrong, and these comments tell a lot about you (they’re slandering, giving you a bad rep,)

“Which is a form of dumbness. So, you think you are superior because you waste people’s time in a “kind” manner, you hypocrite coward! This is a thousand times more offensive than anything you could say! And infinitely more so than anything I COULD say, for the truth is not always kind. Mwahaha”

I don’t think in the same terms as you.I don’t identify myself with my beliefs, or temporary abilities (which exceed yours by far, it seems).

Look up hypocrite.You quoted me saying “just like you” on this matter.Think about it, if I’m an hypocrite, you must be even worse for “exposing” me.Btw: Nobody forces you to read any comments.

Another thing: Being offensive depends on being perceived as offensive.Look the word up.Only your interpretation of this is offensive, because it is so dumb and maybe assumes us to be us dumb as you are.

“I agree with the last part, but as above, laziness is unacceptable. Unless you are willing to accept being called dumb, and RIGHTFULLY SO, as you YOURSELF admit it here. So, thanks for “rationalizing” for me, Im even more resolute in my crusade against you idiots now.”

Now you admit to being here in order to fight others.The first sentence is your premise, I disagree.Btw, if you weren’t such a hypocrite, you would have to stop accepting yourself.

Want to hear some “wisdom”: “Hate the sin, not the sinner”.That way, you’ll achieve more than alienating others.

“You already said that you moron.”

You can start a picture dictionary for all the words you don’t know.Take a photo (ugh) of yourself, glue it into your dictionary and write moron underneath.That’s your first entry.

“copying idiots will not get you very far.”

Well, I copied you (and fairly good, it seems.Swallow your own “medicine”, boy).Even though you don’t think about yourself the way I portrayed you, the way you come across (a typical condition, since you seem to object to me using the word standard, let’s call it the human “default”).

“No it wasn’t! IT WAS A REPLY TO YOUR POST, DUMBASS! Don’t believe me? No problem, unlike your arrogance I CAN AND DO PROVIDE PROOF, just follow the IDENTATION of the post, it IS right below Angel’s one which was a direct reply to you.
LOL SO DUMB! Hahaha”

We were talking about the pareto post.You may be young (loling around, remember what you wrote?), but your memory surely equals that of an old person.Btw: Capitalizing only indicates that you’re giving way to your emotions, which can (already has) interfere(d) with your “reasoning”.

“Thanks for having just proved that for me, MWAHAHAHA”
Look up the word proof (repetition, since you already forgot this recommendation).

There are many people who think they are intelligent, and they’re alike in many ways without knowing it (irony not intented- I don’t fancy myself intelligent).Nevertheless, they don’t achieve much in real life.Start with extrospection, then try to see what you saw in yourself.

Btw: Which books did you allegedly write!?Provide an amazon link, or call yourself hypocrite (I wait till you tell me I don’t know the word, then I’ll show you something you have already forgotten).Notice, you claimed to be published.

Ps: What has Bri to do with this (you mentioned him), are you in love!?

Have a nice day, you non-pareto-optimal design (think about it, in some sense you designed yourself) ;)

“Wow, I am disappointed.The only thing you are skilled at is distortion of statements and rhetorics.”

– Again, I can understand why you have so high expectation of myself. But look at you, you call your distortions FACTS! how many more examples you need to acknowledge your hypocrisy? from now on I’ll simply say “hypocrite”, even risking sounding purely offensive in the little minds like your own who think i dont consider it carefully or have no “introspection”.

“*Well, the last was wrong.Correcting this after checking this response for evidence on my claims.”

– Are you admitting you were wrong? that’s new…

“You still didn’t get my point.”

– I’ll never get it until i agree with it, right narciso?!

“you thought wrong, every language has idiosyncrasies. it is almost redundant in this case, almost because there are conceivably cases where you could say “a ultimate” but they are much more rare than “the ultimate”, thus they almost form one single term.”

“The first sentence is true (I used idioms, so much for idiosyncracies- see my spelling of the word, idiosyncratic! ), the rest is entirely besides the point.You still didn’t get my point (repetition), I never meant to write “the great” as way as a means of expressing myself, you “genius”.”

–thanks, I am a genius, but you are hallucinating, when did I state you meant that?
–Repetition alone is not enough to save your non existent “point”.

“It was just meant to be taken into account for “parsing” the meaning of the headline, to enable others to see this semantic curiosity.Now we see another water-based one, and I’m no Marin.”

–LOL you are starting to sound cosmic, are you opening a church?

“that IS pretty much what it means!”

“Yeah, which means that we can’t do it (memory!?).Read my first post.”

–I just proved you wrong, and you want to go back to the start?! re-read ALL my posts. memorize them.

“Yeah, that’s exactly my point, there are others.Other prophets, other systems.Germany has one, France has one, India builts one.Where is your problem with wanting to build a better one!?”

–Pretty desperate huh? You sophisms are degrading dude, not even Bri would fall for them anymore. We are talking linguistics here.

“Start with yourself.”

–You suggest I stop communicating just because you are brainless?

“At least we are better off than you.”

–Riiight.

“on the contrary, the standard response seem to be cowardice. I do trust you are superior and overcome the “standards” though.”
“Look up the word standard.”

–Your point?! oh yes, you never have any. I guess you are not superior to idiots then.

“Are you giving warrants now? Mwahaha”

“Well, maybe you should go back and relearn your vocabulary:)Mwhaha “dumbo”.”

–This answers my argument how exactly? MWAHAHAHA

“Are you suggesting censorship? So just because YOU do not consider what I said nice nor important, then I should be censored. ”

“Maybe you should quote both sentences, not just one.I wrote this is up to you (I see you quoted it later, maybe you should work on your memory).”

– saving space, and if I quoted it later why you care? working on my memory do not solve YOUR HYPOCRISY! Again you do not answer my point, just try to divert it, pathetic.

“Maybe you should look up the word hypocrite.It wasn’t about being fat, it was about being honest.If someone asks me for example: how do my cloths look, he gets an honest answer, if I think it necessary or believe this person can stomach it (she couldn’t).”

– EXACTLY! And it makes you a hypocrite to say to me NOT TO DO THE SAME. THATS THE VERY DEFINITION OF THE WORD! You are quick to conclude others dont know the meaning of words, but look what you do! You ACTUALLY PROVE YOU DONT! HYPOCRITE! (look it up!)

“This is not the same as discussing something and then attack the others who partake.”

– Im not attacking you, nor bri, can’t your arrogance allow you to consider the SLIGHT possibility of BEING STUPID?! I’m just telling you how it is man, you should be grateful! At least consider the odds, even if you think they are insignificant, this would save you from being an arrogant idiot instead of simply an idiot.

“Anyway: I told this story, because I made the experience that many people can’t stand the truth/opinion of others, and I wasn’t sure if I’m dealing with such a person.”

– That’s what I admired in you, but I see now you are just a hypocrite.

“Well, there are many reasons why I could have written that paragraph,”

– all your post is like this, you are mad and dumb, not even trying to make any points anymore. Who knows whatever you may call “a reason”? You could be random generating the stuff.

“think about it.It is an attempted insult that you seem to think I care about your approval.”

— You obviously dont (stop guessing what others think), otherwise you would not make an ass of yourself.

“Well, you think me a coward because you only have these boxes.There couldn’t be other reasons for this, right!?Don’t be so lazy.”

– whatever you wanna call it, dude.

“The fact that my post again comment is behind this comment shows that your understanding of this site is leaving sth to be desired.This makes your rambling at the end obsolete.

–yeah, “bla bla” makes all you said “obsolete”, keep denying, you’re still a hypocritic idiot who cant prove me wrong.

“Btw: There is a “cs 101? course at coursera, you may want to look it up.”"

–guessing again?!

“You still didn’t get my post, and this seems coming back at you.”

–you random generated this, impossible.

“Yawn.You call that intellect.I call it arrogance coupled with being unvoluntarily funny, since you still didn’t get my point.”

– thanks, Im also funny, this is mostly my reason to post around here.;-)thanks for being the victim.

“You are the prick.This proves you’re just saying this to “win” this argument.You wrote -like always THE kind angel.You can’t seem to talk about Amara, since she didn’t “correct” (I knew that meaning^^) me elsewhere (although I sometimes commented on her comments).You see, your reasoning ability is weak, since your memory is not properly developed.”

– You FORGET I said she gave you a synonym. So whose memory is failing? LOL

“That’s why you are dumb, you miscorrect what you didn’t understand.I guess you are the kind of person who after buying thinks “he got the better of that car-salesman”.”

– stop mumbling dude, this gets you nowhere.

“Btw: I gave plenty of evidence (you know what you wrote, I hope), you on the contrary need repetition.Look one paragraph above this.”

– You gave evidence? Some Science literate you are, tee hee hee

“Then you are an even THE GREAT IDIOT (or should I say ultimate here?) for not only ignoring it, but alluding to it without knowing what it is!”
Your style: An is wrong.You sound like a baby.Deliberately wrong is still wrong.Lazyness!

– Im MOCKING what you seem to fondly call “a point”, grow a brain.

“Buy a dictionary.You were mocking me for my careless English, ”

– Oh, you noticed I was mocking you?! But NO, I told your grammar lessons were postponed, LET ME REPEAT IT for you — “Im MOCKING what you seem to fondly call “a point”, grow a brain!” — The one you dont understand I understand better than you yourself understand.

“but the way you express yourself makes it obvious that you don’t know all these nice words you use.”

– thanks, that proves you were just throwing rhetoric (you hypocrite) when you denied my “nice vocabulary”. You contradict yourself you incoherent mumbler!

“Look up allude.Or, if you know it’s meaning, go read the wikipedia article on logic instead.Can only be one of these things, or wait, maybe you are deliberately foolish.How do we call a foolish person, right: a fool.”

— no other possibilities? oh, I prefer to call myself the Harlequin, the black masked warrior who hunt evil souls to burn in hell. You better stop wasting my time, your score with satan is way hopeless already.

“Look up the word prove.I already did prove you wrong,”

– by making no points? delusions…. every time you disagree you tell people to “look up the word”, wouldnt it be more productive to ACTUALLY ARGUE WHY the person is wrong, dummy??

“if I take your posts and what is contained in them as a benchmark.”

–so you are arguing for not arguing. hehehe Godel would be proud.

“Anyway, you surely did notice that perceiving myself to do this would be inconsistent with my claim that some posts on a website don’t amount to much.At least not when used by untrained humans.Anyway: You seem to have a problem with admitting you were wrong.Maybe I was wrong, and these comments tell a lot about you (they’re slandering, giving you a bad rep,)”

“Look up hypocrite.You quoted me saying “just like you” on this matter.Think about it, if I’m an hypocrite, you must be even worse for “exposing” me.Btw: Nobody forces you to read any comments.”

– so every detective must be a hypocrite for going after murderers, right? you call THAT a point?

“Another thing: Being offensive depends on being perceived as offensive.Look the word up.Only your interpretation of this is offensive, because it is so dumb and maybe assumes us to be us dumb as you are.”

–There goes your alleged honesty… MWAHAHAHA but you are right (at last), I could dress the worst lies in the kindness you all EXPECT, and I wouldnt get Bri’s or even YOUR reactions like this. So yes, keep convincing yourself you are honest.

“Now you admit to being here in order to fight others.”

–”not others” just the idiots, learn to read. Stop being an idiot, and I’ll stop resisting your idiocies.(because there wont BE any, by the very definition of the word)

“The first sentence is your premise, I disagree.Btw, if you weren’t such a hypocrite, you would have to stop accepting yourself.”

–provide the evidence you only talk about, liar!

“Want to hear some “wisdom”: “Hate the sin, not the sinner”.That way, you’ll achieve more than alienating others.”

–veeeery wise, ooooh, what you suggest we do to murderers then? I try to shake you up, moron, being kind is obviously not working on your lives, you idiots need some TOUGH LOVE. hahahaha If you want to say that Im in love with you or bri because of it, go ahead, you obviously are this desperate.

“You can start a picture dictionary for all the words you don’t know.Take a photo (ugh) of yourself, glue it into your dictionary and write moron underneath.That’s your first entry.”

– actually Im quite attractive. but back to the point, oh, you dont have any.

“Well, I copied you (and fairly good, it seems.Swallow your own “medicine”, boy).Even though you don’t think about yourself the way I portrayed you, the way you come across (a typical condition, since you seem to object to me using the word standard, let’s call it the human “default”).”

– lol you dont even remember WHAT YOU YOURSELF WROTE! HAHAHA I WROTE “STANDARD” AND –YOU– WERE THE ONE WHO OBJECTED –MY– USE OF IT! WOW, you really WANT to BE ME! What a WANNABE! hahahahahaahah

“No it wasn’t! IT WAS A REPLY TO YOUR POST, DUMBASS! Don’t believe me? No problem, unlike your arrogance I CAN AND DO PROVIDE PROOF, just follow the IDENTATION of the post, it IS right below Angel’s one which was a direct reply to you.
LOL SO DUMB! Hahaha”

“We were talking about the pareto post.You may be young (loling around, remember what you wrote?), but your memory surely equals that of an old person.”

–Dude, you dont even have to be smart. PICK A FREAKING RULER AND MEASURE THE FREAKING SCREEN, MY POST WAS A REPLY!!!
ASK THE ANGEL TO GIVE YOU THE DATES IF YOU ARE TOO RETARDED TO USE A RULER!! Geeeeeeeeeeee!!!

“Btw: Capitalizing only indicates that you’re giving way to your emotions, which can (already has) interfere(d) with your “reasoning”.”

–You settle on a conclusion and hope aphorisms(look it up another of my nice words for your edification!) will make it any less false! NO idiot, I use caps because you FREAKING MISSED THE LAST TIME I MADE MY POINT! AND I HOPE THE BIGGER FONT WILL JUMP TO YOUR FLEETING MYOPIA! Gosh, it is like talking to a wooden door…

““Thanks for having just proved that for me, MWAHAHAHA”
Look up the word proof (repetition, since you already forgot this recommendation).”

– “doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results” — some wisdom for you. Yes you PROVEN it, BETTER YET, I PROVED YOU PROVED. Now, the basics of making a point: you want to declare Im wrong? then you MUST PROVE I DID NOT PROVE YOU PROVED IM A GENIUS! Declaring something is not the same as proving, dummy, who do not know the meaning of proof?huh?

“There are many people who think they are intelligent, and they’re alike in many ways without knowing it (irony not intented- I don’t fancy myself intelligent).Nevertheless, they don’t achieve much in real life.Start with extrospection, then try to see what you saw in yourself.”

–Who cares?

“Btw: Which books did you allegedly write!?Provide an amazon link, or call yourself hypocrite (I wait till you tell me I don’t know the word, then I’ll show you something you have already forgotten).Notice, you claimed to be published.”

– hahaha You better show me, because you certainly made it look like it is another word you dont know the meaning, ironically your favorite. And it better be good, because me being published do not make me a hypocrite not to give you anything! You better look up the word PUBLISHED BEFORE you come up with YET ANOTHER NO-POINT.

“Ps: What has Bri to do with this (you mentioned him), are you in love!?”

–We are talking about this site sometimes, aren’t we? must I elaborate the implications, you logic impaired monkey. Are you in love with Angel just because you mentioned her, you logic impaired HUMAN! And suppose it was true, you would still have no point. (the first step in logic is to consider your suppositions carefully.)

“Have a nice day, you non-pareto-optimal design (think about it, in some sense you designed yourself) ”

–hehe, you didnt except to contradict yourself once again the day after, right? see my first post at the nootropic article if you dont understand this. (which you already replied to, dont try to escape from that one)

In summary, you make almost no points, call your offenses facts while hypocritically calling facts offenses against you. And still think yourself as honest. Sorry, but you are a mumbling old fart, at least in spirit. It is unfortunate my image of you has fallen so far (and this doesn’t mean you care about it, you logic impaired imbecile!), but I’ll be forced to hunt any future mumblings of yours for any resemblance of points instead of give the respectful point by point I did until now. Sorry, but you give no evidence of enough neurons to warrant it anymore. You obviously dont care, Im just giving you the last drop of respect you have left. Thanks for proving me a genius while proving yourself an idiot. Implicitly of course, you cant prove 2+2=4. =)

2nd Part == Waiting for Awaiting Approval before posting
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“you almost certainly (study probability theory if you think almost is redundant)”

I love how you try to put words in others people mouth before they say anything, just so you might have a slight chance of saying they are wrong, but in fact, it depends on your definition of “certainty” you philosopho-linguistical cripple!
BTW: I suggest you go through the Stanford course on probabilistic graphical models if you really think you know about this. Oh, are you going to claim I’m not enlightening you again? you’re welcome for that too.

“didn’t write this post with the intention to enlighten ME.”

AS A DIRECT ANSWER TO YOUR POST, IT DEFINITELY WAS! Thanks for proving me right again. Being lazy may indeed pay off hehehe if your “opponent” is even MORE so.. lol
You answer NO to the question and I answer “I could” WHAT COULD BE MORE OBVIOUS THAN THAT, NITWIT?!!?! MY goodness, you are dumber than Bri or something?!

“Anyway: You’re just stating the obvious with your-pareto comment.”

You could not be more wrong! I GUARANTEE you less than 5.000 people today knows this in any mathematical depth. Which includes YOU. So refrain from jumping to conclusions without any probabilistic data, ALRIGHT probability expert!

“Everyone who tried to consciously built a model of something with a higher complexity than your manners (which are simply, awful)”

Thanks, I’m glad I’m capable of keeping honest even in the face of the idiots my manners reflect. Yes, they are awful. And surprisingly, to me at least, are starting to include you.

“has noticed the interdependendess of some variables with others, and thus knows that the word optimal -when refering to a design- is only truly illuminating when the context and aims of the designer are clear.A person in possesion of this “insight” may use their own words, or words stemming from their respective fields (in the case of persons with higher educational attainment) to express this thought.”

LOL how hand-wavy one can get… ABSOLUTELY NOT, the term is MUCH MORE SPECIFIC THAN THIS HAND WAVE! But if it makes you feel OK with yourself, who am I to UNKINDLY criticize it. Go ahead. BE an idiot.

And no, certainly NOT everyone, and probably NOT MOST, have noticed let alone are able to express even as this hand-wavy as you did.

“If you really think you said something profound or new -then well- you may be subjectively right, at least”

I appreciate, and comprehend, your high expectations of myself, but it is not always that I’m forced to enlighten people with profound words.

“concerning the latter thing, that is, if you think the reader of aforementioned comment is mentally retarded or unknowledgabe (which wouldn’t surprise me, and the ambiguity of this statement is intended, in case you reread your”

It is certainly not new, what kind of idiot would have thought that?! you? It is DECADES old, more than HALF A CENTURY in some cases, probably more if you dont consider all the modern implications of the term.
This hasty conclusion of yours doesn’t mean however that one should not think the reader is not retarded much less unknowledgeable, but it is surprising you cant work it out, you are the expert of probabilities, right?

” comment, although this assumes some introspection on your part).

So now you conclude I dont introspect enough? how presumptuous is that?! Are you inside my head, or following me around for life? hahahahahaha you dig your own grave, dummy!

“If we are speaking about the latter (unkn), some background information would make this easy concept intelligible to everyone who is in possession of good mental health, but you yourself would have looked much dumber for stating superflous and plain things plainly.You’d look like the simpleton you actually are.”

First, as I said to Bri on my hasty response the other day (before what you called the “unhasty” one), why do you presume I want to offer easy answers in a silver plate for idiots?!
Second, as I stated above, this is ABSOLUTELY NOT plain, only someone who DOES NOT KNOW what he is talking about would be capable of such a moronic statement. Which proves who the simpleton here is. The one who ran to wikipedia to quickly try to get a handle on what pareto optimallity is just so he could come back and shout to everyone how this concept is so obvious that everyone knows, making of course an ass of himself. If you think this is superfluous I suggest you get the basics of how your little world runs on it, you alienated egghead!

“If this whole thing were actually of importance to the lives of those who didn’t understand your comment, they’d already learned about this concept with ease.Or could proceed to do so, if they deem it appropriate.”

So you are suggesting humans know everything important “for their lives”, yeah, right! hahahahaha how ignorant is that?!?! hahahahha
And again, why should I make it easy on you idiots? You lazy disgusting slacks always wanting it easy right? mwahahaha you will get it easy, yes…

“Contrary to Bri and yourself, I’m not so arrogant to get all worked up by the OBVIOUS statement of my ignorance (and I DO FEEL extremely good, yes, thanks). Now if you stated anything about my ignorance being anything AT ALL comparable to yours, THEEEEEN we would at least need some facts.;-)”

“Says the guy who lashes out at me because I said people could safely ignore you.”

Why everything is “lashing out at you”, man? Nobody is lashing out at you, man. Stop saying everybody is lashing at you, man! Gawd!
But hey, at least you didn’t deny your arrogance. Good! 10×1 for Satan.

“I’ll behave like you and start with the “facts”:You sir, are an Idiot (putting the necesarry emphasis would make me look like your second account). You are a small, ignorant idiot (repetition for your puny mind).”

I wish! you wouldn’t do such a poor imitation of myself, my work would be complete!

“ACCEPT this!Your denial dumbs you down even more, even though it doesn’t matter practically for someone like you.”

I already did last time, do you have a hard time noticing the lack of your arrogance in others? So who needs to Google the Dunning-Kruger effect?
And I repeat! The hard bit is proving my ignorance even compares to yours! ha! Take it as a lesson in humbleness, MWAHAHA
I have to agree to that, with infinite intelligence, any dumbing down is negligible.

“Your presumptuous demeanor can only be topped by the profound idiocy and senselessnes of your plump claims.Even my choice of words can’t compete with your attitude on this account.”

Of course! What could compare to me and my beautiful words! You wish! But again, whatever demeanor I have and how subjectively you or any other idiot perceives has ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING on the precision, truth, correctness or lack thereof of my words. All your idiots retarded attempts at such ad hominem arguments only prove me right! This is not a “claim”! If you can’t prove me wrong, than you cant talk like me and get away with it like I do, because well, I do!

“Don’t get me started on the demands you issue, which you probably didn’t even notice, given the low level of awareness you have shown.”

please do get started! or are you just hand-waving again?

“Of course, if your were less of a wannabe, you may have had a chance to notice that presuming the dumbest meaning of an ambigous statement in the comment part of some website in conjuction with ad-hominems is tantamount to trying to “force”
others to abide to your standards -which you yourself don’t comply with-, while answering your drivel.”

I’m above the Law!

“If this isn’t obvious enough for your 1/2 braincells: If one choses not to answer, others may believe in your claims, resulting in a worse reception of any further comment on the side of your “opponent”.This would be unecessary if you were actually smart enough to keep your egoism in check.”

So you are replying out of fear?! I thought you wanted to prove I was as dumb as you guys are. Oh, thanks! I’m certainly not.
Hmmm.. what about being smart enough to keep my fear in check?! MWAHAHAHAHAHA

“Anyway, for the record: Marcos Marin (or whatever your real name is),intelligence, empathy and manner are used here for the first time in one sentence without negation.

In a group that equated all those terms into one, I’m not surprised. I’m really sorry you cannot recognize intelligence unless it is cleaning your ass with silk.

Thank you for making this possible (at last, you were good for something,namely, creating something, after your definition of the word)!”

As I said, I agree with you when you say the likes of you&Bri should ignore me. It would be pearls before swine either way. I’m really sorry for you if that is all you got from me, I was mistaken about you, you are indeed an idiot after all.

“Summary: You think we are as dumb as you are.Google Dunning-Kruger effect.”

Everything is the Dunning-Kruger effect to you, have you noticed? hehehe Except this I guess, lol

“Now you can attack my spelling and grammar to feel good again.Otherwise, “rationalize”.”

You’ve given more than enough material to attack here, this is already too long. Let’s postpone your grammar lessons for today.

“My comment would be shorter if I’d not taken the care to include your “prose”.”

“I love how you try to put words in others people mouth before they say anything, just so you might have a slight chance of saying they are wrong, but in fact, it depends on your definition of “certainty” you philosopho-linguistical cripple!”

Blabla.I didn’t put words into your mouth (hands-)), I just wanted to make sure you know this word was there for a reason.

“BTW: I suggest you go through the Stanford course on probabilistic graphical models if you really think you know about this. Oh, are you going to claim I’m not enlightening you again? you’re welcome for that too.”

Surely not.You know, there is this site called less wrong.They were talking about this course some time (months?) ago.

“AS A DIRECT ANSWER TO YOUR POST, IT DEFINITELY WAS! Thanks for proving me right again. Being lazy may indeed pay off hehehe if your “opponent” is even MORE so.. lol
You answer NO to the question and I answer “I could” WHAT COULD BE MORE OBVIOUS THAN THAT, NITWIT?!!?! MY goodness, you are dumber than Bri or something?!”
Reread my paragraph, your pareto post was no answer to me.Haha.Idiot.Maybe you should read more carefully, lazy-bones.

“You could not be more wrong! I GUARANTEE you less than 5.000 people today knows this in any mathematical depth. Which includes YOU. So refrain from jumping to conclusions without any probabilistic data, ALRIGHT probability expert!”

I didn’t see the mathematical depth in your post?How can you claim to have stated it?All.Now I said everything there is to say^^
“Thanks, I’m glad I’m capable of keeping honest even in the face of the idiots my manners reflect. Yes, they are awful. And surprisingly, to me at least, are starting to include you.”

Well, I’m too dumb to understand sentences like this one.

“And no, certainly NOT everyone, and probably NOT MOST, have noticed let alone are able to express even as this hand-wavy as you did.”

In case you didn’t notice, I already said I would study things at a deeper level, should the need arise.I don’t critizise you for not having memorized the “knigge” (“famous” book about manners, and yes, if you happen to know it, it is not so much something to memorize, thanks).

“I appreciate, and comprehend, your high expectations of myself, but it is not always that I’m forced to enlighten people with profound words.”

Prove that you are forced, prove that you are englightening people.Else: hypocrite^^

“It is certainly not new, what kind of idiot would have thought that?! you? It is DECADES old, more than HALF A CENTURY in some cases, probably more if you dont consider all the modern implications of the term.”

Strawmen.Read my answer to your paragraph up there (you know which one).You yourself wouldn’t have thought about the concept of enlightening someone, but you still take it for granted.

“So now you conclude I dont introspect enough? how presumptuous is that?! Are you inside my head, or following me around for life? hahahahahaha you dig your own grave, dummy!”

My own grave?I guess you are taking this too seriously.Anyway, you aren’t in Bri’s head either, doesn’t keep you from spouting bs.

“First, as I said to Bri on my hasty response the other day (before what you called the “unhasty” one), why do you presume I want to offer easy answers in a silver plate for idiots?!”

So you are not on an enlightenment trip?Ah, yes, you already admitted to being a modern “richard, coeur de lion.”

“The one who ran to wikipedia to quickly try to get a handle on what pareto optimallity is just so he could come back and shout to everyone how this concept is so obvious that everyone knows, making of course an ass of himself. If you think this is superfluous I suggest you get the basics of how your little world runs on it, you alienated egghead!”

Egghead?Blabla.Btw: I’m fair enough to not google around;) I just guessed the meaning by context.Yes.I don’t know it in depth, but you’re still arguing a strawman.We were talking about what you were stating.

Repetition: All.I said everything there is to say.

“So you are suggesting humans know everything important “for their lives”, yeah, right! hahahahaha how ignorant is that?!?! hahahahha”

Well, this site isn’t exactly frequented by a readership that is representive for humanity at large.Btw: Strawman.I said they either know the easy stuff (that you stated), or can easily learn it.

“Contrary to Bri and yourself, I’m not so arrogant to get all worked up by the OBVIOUS statement of my ignorance (and I DO FEEL extremely good, yes, thanks). Now if you stated anything about my ignorance being anything AT ALL comparable to yours, THEEEEEN we would at least need some facts.;-)”

The patient who is unwilling can’t be healed.And yes, I know you could claim the same.But why do you even write to me?As to my reasons, refer to one of the posts above.

“Why everything is “lashing out at you”, man? Nobody is lashing out at you, man. Stop saying everybody is lashing at you, man! Gawd!”

“I wish! you wouldn’t do such a poor imitation of myself, my work would be complete!”

I’m not dumb enough.Sorry.

“ACCEPT this!Your denial dumbs you down even more, even though it doesn’t matter practically for someone like you.”

“Take it as a lesson in humbleness, MWAHAHA

You and humbleness^^ Anyway.You are right about the dunning-Kruger effect thing.Reminds me of the hammer and nail thing.

“Your presumptuous demeanor can only be topped by the profound idiocy and senselessnes of your plump claims.Even my choice of words can’t compete with your attitude on this account.”

“Of course! What could compare to me and my beautiful words! You wish! But again, whatever demeanor I have and how subjectively you or any other idiot perceives has ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING on the precision, truth, correctness or lack thereof of my words. ”

The king is ugly.Head off.Truth.You may lack the intelligence to communicate with others.Deliberate dumbness is still dumb.And no, read the lazyness part again before thinking you have a cheap blow (you never know).

“All your idiots retarded attempts at such ad hominem arguments only prove me right! This is not a “claim”! If you can’t prove me wrong, than you cant talk like me and get away with it like I do, because well, I do!”

And what did you prove!?Hypocrite.You just keep ignoring what I write, stringing together your troll stuff.

“please do get started! or are you just hand-waving again?”

In case you didn’t notice, I proceeded to tell about it;)

““Of course, if your were less of a wannabe, you may have had a chance to notice that presuming the dumbest meaning of an ambigous statement in the comment part of some website in conjuction with ad-hominems is tantamount to trying to “force”
others to abide to your standards -which you yourself don’t comply with-, while answering your drivel.”
I’m above the Law!”

Masterful response.

“So you are replying out of fear?! I thought you wanted to prove I was as dumb as you guys are. Oh, thanks! I’m certainly not.
Hmmm.. what about being smart enough to keep my fear in check?! MWAHAHAHAHAHA”

Fear?Could it be you are mentally deranged?Yes.

“In a group that equated all those terms into one, I’m not surprised. I’m really sorry you cannot recognize intelligence unless it is cleaning your ass with silk.”

Blabla.How creative.And you complained about me quoting others^^

“Everything is the Dunning-Kruger effect to you, have you noticed? hehehe Except this I guess, lol”
Probability theory.

“You’ve given more than enough material to attack here, this is already too long. Let’s postpone your grammar lessons for today.”

The champ knows he is the champ (or thinks to know, speaking about you).You did as I predicted.Loser:)

Even if this was some kind of reasonable goal, who could ever “win” an argument against you? You simply keep talking and talking and talking… like a little girl, except the kid would not say stuff at random.