Squinty wrote:Can't get access to that article weirdly. I'm interested to read how they are only coming to this conclusion now.

They are just reporting a study by the Rand group. I am not giving the Daily Express another click in order to be able to quote it properly, but from memory it went something like this.

Brexit Shock

Forecasters suggest that Brexit will be WORSE OFF out of the EU under ALL Brexit scenarios, other than the alternate reality where Lady Di comes back to lead us through it. Her glorious light would melt all the snow, cure arthritis, make cancer history and GIVE THOSE DAMN FOREIGNERS WHATFOR!!!

Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:I wouldn't really call it a shock.... 48% of the voters have been saying it for some time.

It's a shock for those that are only just coming to terms with the fact that Diana is dead.

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strawberry floating what?

I am not sure if you are joking, asking me to explain or whether you are genuinely confused.

The Daily Express and its readers love Diana. She died in 1997. They still talk about her endlessly. Once the news of Diana’s death finally sinks in, they might have room to process just what leaving the EU might mean.

I forgot about that. If that happens then they will either keep it going with a right wing slant or take it left wing like the mirror leading to the paper getting closed down as its readers abandon it for the Mail.

I forgot about that. If that happens then they will either keep it going with a right wing slant or take it left wing like the mirror leading to the paper getting closed down as its readers abandon it for the Mail.

To be fair they can shift left and still stay to the right of the daily mail.

I forgot about that. If that happens then they will either keep it going with a right wing slant or take it left wing like the mirror leading to the paper getting closed down as its readers abandon it for the Mail.

I forgot about that. If that happens then they will either keep it going with a right wing slant or take it left wing like the mirror leading to the paper getting closed down as its readers abandon it for the Mail.

I forgot about that. If that happens then they will either keep it going with a right wing slant or take it left wing like the mirror leading to the paper getting closed down as its readers abandon it for the Mail.

You’d think they would jump to the Sun or the Mail.

Except, Rupert Murdoch is 87 next year and Paul Dacre will be 70.

Their time will be coming to a close soon.

You think they'll both shift left when they die then?

To the left? Maybe not.

Away from Brexit? Yes.

The Mail on Sunday is against Brexit for instance, it is only Dacre (who is only in charge of the Mail for 6 days a week) that is keeping it on its present course.

I am not sure of the views of the Murdoch children who will inherit when Rupert dies, but I would imagine that by the time he does die, the average reader of the Sun will be in financial pain caused by Brexit and the paper will shift to try and keep hold of those readers.

So on the principle of democracy I support the idea of Parliament having a meaningful vote on the exit deal, but in reality what does that achieve? If Parliament rejects the deal, surely that would just lead to us crashing out with no deal at all?

Squinty wrote:Can't get access to that article weirdly. I'm interested to read how they are only coming to this conclusion now.

They are just reporting a study by the Rand group. I am not giving the Daily Express another click in order to be able to quote it properly, but from memory it went something like this.

Brexit Shock

Forecasters suggest that Brexit will be WORSE OFF out of the EU under ALL Brexit scenarios, other than the alternate reality where Lady Di comes back to lead us through it. Her glorious light would melt all the snow, cure arthritis, make cancer history and GIVE THOSE DAMN FOREIGNERS WHATFOR!!!

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captain red dog wrote:So on the principle of democracy I support the idea of Parliament having a meaningful vote on the exit deal, but in reality what does that achieve? If Parliament rejects the deal, surely that would just lead to us crashing out with no deal at all?

I would imagine it would send them back to the negotiating table to get a better deal.

captain red dog wrote:So on the principle of democracy I support the idea of Parliament having a meaningful vote on the exit deal, but in reality what does that achieve? If Parliament rejects the deal, surely that would just lead to us crashing out with no deal at all?

I would imagine it would send them back to the negotiating table to get a better deal.

It can't though. The 2 years will be up and there is no way the EU would accept an extention surely. Why would the EU agree to extend the deadline to make a worse deal from their perspective?

captain red dog wrote:So on the principle of democracy I support the idea of Parliament having a meaningful vote on the exit deal, but in reality what does that achieve? If Parliament rejects the deal, surely that would just lead to us crashing out with no deal at all?

I would imagine it would send them back to the negotiating table to get a better deal.

It can't though. The 2 years will be up and there is no way the EU would accept an extention surely. Why would the EU agree to extend the deadline to make a worse deal from their perspective?

Because no deal would also be bad for them? It's in both sides interest to get a deal even though their hand is stronger.