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Interview #2 - Published December 14, 2012

Interview with the family of Joshua Swalls, 22, who
disappeared/drowned under suspicious circumstances in Indianapolis in
November 2012. Case overview:

Between the evening of November 3rd and the
morning of November 4th, Joshua Swalls, 22, was visiting a friend at a housing
complex located near Keystone Avenue and Glen-Lake Plaza in Indianapolis,
Indiana.

According
to reports, the young man briefly stepped outside in the vicinity of where his
car was parked, leaving behind his keys, wallet and cell phone.

He
was expected to return shortly, but was never seen or heard from again.

In
the days following his disappearance, an intensive neighborhood sweep
was conducted by Swalls’ family and friends with some assistance provided by the
Indianapolis Fire Department.

Acting on a tip from a local merchant, these searchers discovered the missing man’s shoe on the bank of a nearby retention
pond and firefighters immediately assembled their
tactical divers to scour the small body of water, retrieving only a black jacket from it and abandoning the
effort after approximately an hour.Officers
on the scene from the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department then took possession of the
coat, stating it did not belong to the missing man, and, even after the item had
dried, refused to present it to the Swalls for identification.

Thereafter, the Swalls family, accompanied by numerous members of the
community, continued the daily search-and-rescue mission essentially on their own.

Three
weeks after the young man vanished, a corpse was spotted
floating in that retention pond by a local businessman and was recovered by the same dive unit who, upon inspecting it, estimated it
had only been in the water for about seven days. From there it was delivered to
Marion County’s coroners who announced that the remains were not those of
Joshua Swalls, but reversed that determination on the following day.

Swalls’ death was then tentatively ruled an “accidental drowning” with
full autopsy results and toxicology tests still pending, and IMPD detectives began
indicating that they too saw “no signs of foul play” in either the
disappearance or drowning death of the 22-year-old man.

Since
then, although toxicology reports came back negative for drugs and alcohol, there has been no progress in ascertaining the actual timeframe of events
that led to Joshua Swalls’ demise, and his family has had no success in getting
the police to further pursue the investigation.

Additionally,
repeated attempts by the Swalls to connect with the mayor of Indianapolis in
hopes he’ll intervene in the standoff with the IMPD so that the mystery of Joshua’s
“accident” can be solved have also been ignored.

Joshua’s
father, Dan Swalls, has agreed to discuss the case and will share other important
details and evidence he wants the public to be aware of regarding his son and
the night he vanished.

by Eponymous Rox for Killing Killers December 14, 2012

Q#1: Your son’s troubling disappearance
sparked a massive search for him, and the concern for his wellbeing extended
far beyond the physical perimeters of the neighborhood he went missing in—all
over the web strangers became emotionally invested in finding Josh alive and
safe. Tell us a little bit about this young man who moved so many to want to rush
to his aid. What was Josh doing with his life in November of 2012 and what were
his long term plans? Where there any issues clouding his outlook that you know
of, and had he ever had any problems with the law, whether major or minor? What
accomplishments was he most proud of?

“Josh was a very
energetic young man who would do anything for his family and friends. He would
come home at night after work and either go to the gym and then come home and
sit and watch TV with us, or sit up in his room. He had a special bond with his
little sister which is why we called him her security blanket. She would always
call or text him to make sure he was going to be home when it was her bedtime.
He loved to play with the kids. They would hang out in his room and play X-box
and watch movies till late in the night on weekends. The kids would fall asleep
in his bed and even though they took up the whole bed he would just lay in the
little spot that they left him instead of carrying them to bed.

“He worked as an
Automotive Technician with AAMCO Transmissions. His dream was to have his own
garage; he would ask me about building my garage because he wanted to put a car
lift in it so he could work on cars at home. He even said he would invest money
into it just so I would do it sooner. Josh had a super boss at AAMCO who he
spoke about often. They talked about starting a business in automotive repair
together. When it came to tools he had already purchased more tools than most
technicians would have purchased over a ten year period.

“Josh had no
issues clouding his outlook in life. Yes, he did have some trouble with the
law. He had been pulled over for a DUI and had a prescription drug in his car
that belonged to his girlfriend. This issue was almost resolved and all charges
were being dropped had he been available for court. He had another issue where
he stayed up two nights straight working on his car and worked a full day. He
was observed swerving on the road and had his girlfriend’s prescription in his
car again one mile from home. This had been resolved, and the normal speeding
tickets were also resolved.

“I would have to
say Josh was really proud of all the tools he had bought and his tool boxes. He
kept them well organized and clean. He even went as far as to come home and
organize my tool box and put labels on the drawers. He had a lot of passion for
his job and took every opportunity to learn all he could.”

Q#2: Where was Josh coming from when he
drove to his friend’s place in those afterhours between November third and fourth?
Did he just spontaneously drop by there or was he expected for a particular
purpose? And where would he ultimately have been returning to once that visit
had ended?

“Josh had spent
the entire day with me, his stepmom Shannon, and little sister Ciera. We went
shopping and had lunch together at his favorite restaurant BW3’s and then came
home and watched TV until dinner. He had originally planned to go visit his
friend after dinner who then told him he wanted to take a nap around six pm. He
then decided to go on a first date with a girl he had met. She picked him up at
the house and they went to TGI Fridays and then to a movie. She then dropped
him off at the house prior to him getting in his car and visiting his friend.
Prior to his disappearance he was texting with the girl he had gone out with
after he arrived at his friends. The last text she sent him he would have
normally been all over replying to as a young 22 boy.

“From what I
could put together it started with a text from his friend stating he had all
the parts to fix his car and had asked Josh to help him. They had shared a few
text messages about this and then Josh asked him if he wanted to hang out.
There were some text messages after a plan was made to fix his friend’s car
about pills where his friend stated he had them. So the visit was planned.

“Josh would have
returned home to insure he had his laundry done and was ready for work the next
day. If he was under the influence he would have called me to make sure that we
would pick him up. We have had to drive as far as Pendleton before to pick him
up before because he did not want to drive due to him drinking too much. This
is when I became concerned because we had not heard from him and I had sent a
few text messages without a response.”

Q#3: Had you ever met or heard of this friend
of Josh’s before and whoever else was present in that apartment? If so, tell us
what you know about these individuals.

“I
had met his friend one time at my house. He was in the garage smoking pot. He
tried to tell me it was some type of tobacco he was smoking in a rolled up
wrapper which I knew better. He was of course asked to leave. We had heard his
friend had a girlfriend and brother. We did not ever meet any of them. The day
I reported Josh missing he did state his brother was in the room sleeping to
the police officer. We had heard several stories about the friend from his own
former friends that he was not a good person and could be dangerous, which is
what drove our concerns as well.”

Q#4: How many hours (or days) had
lapsed between the time your son first went missing and you realized something
was wrong and started to hunt for him?

“I
had sent Josh messages on his phone overnight on Sunday which at this time
would have been 24 hours from when his phone was last used. When I woke up
Monday morning I went straight to my phone to see if there was a response and
then checked his room. I then tried to text message him again with no response.
At this point I called his phone when the friend answered it and told me he
just “freaked out” and up and left his apartment around 130am Sunday morning
(meaning Josh would have only been there about 35 minutes). He said he left his
phone there and had not heard from him.

“At this point is
when I really got concerned. I waited until Josh should have been to work and
checked in with them to see if he had arrived. Once I knew he was not at work I
contacted his mother to see if she had heard from him and she said she had not.
His stepfather had an idea of where the friend lived so he started driving over
there. I then called my son’s cell phone again to get his friend’s address.
Once his stepfather arrived he located Josh’s car parked at the apartments. I
told his friend to take the phone to him until I arrived. At this point it
would have been 34 hours that my son was missing. I contacted IMPD at this time
to file a missing person report.”

Q#5: How and where did you begin your
search, and when did you decide to involve the police in it?

“The family began
searching immediately on Monday November 5th and continued every day since
then. Within 48 hours we knew we needed more help and planned our first large
ground search. The police were not involved in any of our searches. We were
told by the police that they had searched the apartment and the ponds around
the apartment. They said they were going to sonar the ponds as well, which they
did without telling us on Wednesday afternoon, with no findings. We focused our
search around the apartments and saturated a five mile radius. We made sure
that our lead Detective knew our plans at all times in the hopes IMPD would
help. My wife Shannon (Josh’s stepmom) reached out to the Indiana K9 Search
& Recovery Team and asked for their help and they got approval from the
lead Detective, but were later told there were “no real areas of concern” to
search.

“Based on our research,
if a person hurts someone they would panic and place the victim within a mile
or so radius, so we focused with that in mind. Not that this is what we wanted
to think but we had to base our searches on all scenarios we could think of―a
parent’s worst nightmare. There was no evidence to know otherwise as Josh’s
bank account was not touched and his car was left behind and he had only kept
$60 dollars from his paycheck.”

Q#6: Who first questioned the occupants
and other guests of the apartment where Josh was last known to be—you or the IMPD’s
detectives? When you questioned this person or persons, did you happen to
notice whether they had been recently injured?

“I first
questioned Josh’s friend over the phone asking him why he had my son’s cell phone
which is when he told me that Josh just left the apartment without it. (This
would never happen.) I asked had they been doing something and he told me that
they had been smoking but did not state what they had been smoking. When Josh’s
stepfather and I arrived at the apartment, the friend stated he did not know my
son’s car was there. At this point we recovered the phone from him but could
not immediately access it due to a pass code. When the police officer arrived who
took the report he spoke with the friend which was when he stated he was drunk.
The officer then asked if he could look around the apartment. During this time
the friend gave me our son’s shirt which he had worn over a T-shirt the night
he went missing. We did notice the officer spoke to at least three to four
people that were sleeping in the apartment. According to the friend there were
only three of them in the apartment at the time Josh left (the friend, his
girlfriend and Josh). At no time did anyone ask what items Josh might have on
him besides his phone, so when searching the apartment police had no clue what
his keys, wallet or jacket would look like.

“We did not
notice any injuries to Josh’s friend and was not aware there were others in the
apartment until after the officer had entered. When I and my wife went back
that day to get Josh’s car, which we were told to go ahead and drive home, we
went back up to the friend’s apartment and asked again if he knew where Josh
would have gone to and he kept playing with his lip and looking down and
talking softly.”

Q#7: In your own investigation, was
there anyone’s story that didn’t seem credible to you, and did anyone sound as
if they might be holding something back?

“Once we received
access to the cell phone there were several questions running through our mind.
Josh did not arrive at the apartment until sometime after 12:27AM because he
sent a text message stating he was almost there. He was currently texting the
girl he had gone out with until around 1:07AM when all his cell phone
communication just stopped. There were six missed calls from his friend
starting at around 3AM and continuing on until about 3:45AM. The fact that
first this friend had told me they were smoking but then told the police
officer he was drunk really bothered me.

“I had located
the phone number of the girl Josh went on a date with on my son’s phone and
called her to ask if he had been drinking. She stated that he had not because
he was waiting to go to the friend’s house to drink. I know my son and he would
not be drunk in a matter of a half an hour to an hour when the friend stated he
left the apartment around 1:30AM. When I questioned him about those missed
calls he stated the phone was set on silent. Again, the phone had a pass code
and when I received it from the friend the ringer was on full volume, [a level]
which I could hear ring in my own downstairs bedroom at night when Josh would
be upstairs with his door closed.

“Without the pass
code the phone’s volume could not be changed, so if Josh had been in the
apartment with his phone he would have heard it ring. And when we were talking
to the friend he kept looking away when answering our questions. We felt that
the friend knew more than what he was telling us. No one else would come out of
the apartment while we were there, and he never once asked us if we needed help,
nor did he ever come to any of the searches.”

Q#8: The housing complex itself appears
to be well-tended, upscale, and sprawling. Do you know if it’s also equipped
with a full range of security systems and/or a security patrol? And if the property
is indeed physically patrolled, who are those guards and what are their backgrounds
and training?

“From
what we were told by residents and others that apartment complex has several
problems. Originally when we talked to the apartments’ manager she was willing
to help us. This all changed the very next day after we presented the police
report which she stated she needed for us to search the grounds. She then told
us that we could not search the grounds. She said they did have a security
company but a name was not provided at the time. We did not see this security
company until after we started our search. The security was increased once FOX
59 got involved only to keep them off property. They later had an apartment
meeting which the manager herself was not present at and we were later told she
was “on vacation”. (They had terminated the current security company and had
hired a new company that carried weapons.)”

“We did notice
security sitting in their car one time while we were searching. We also had
issues with flyers being removed from foyers and light posts around the
apartments. I contacted the Indianapolis Public Lighting who told me they could
not give me permission to post flyers on the poles but did state they would not
remove them. I then contacted the apartments to speak with the assistant
manager and informed her that if I catch any apartment employees or security
removing flyers that I would take pictures and forward them to the press. At
this point higher management contacted us and said they would help put flyers
up in the foyers since they had been removed.”

Q#9: If security guards are employed,
are they armed, and, if so, with what type of weaponry? Also, did you get to
speak to any such personnel and/or with management concerning your son’s visit as
well as his activities in the parking lot where he was last alleged to have
been? If so, did anybody seem evasive and/or appear to have recent injuries?

“The
previously employed security company did not have weapons that I’m aware of. I
did not see the new security company myself. A friend that had helped us search
attended a meeting at the complex thinking it would focus around our son. They were
not allowed to discuss our son there but were told if they wanted to they could
do it privately in the back. Our friend did state that the new security company
was armed, but did not say what type of weapons they carried. But they had made
everyone aware that they carried weapons.”

Q#10: Does anyone associated with the
daily operation or ownership of this housing complex have any ties whatsoever with
the police or government officials? If so, please elaborate.

“Not
that we were aware of.”

Q#11: Were you and your team present at
the time when a shoe believed to belong to your son was discovered at the nearby
retention pond and when that small body of water was searched by tactical
divers? If so, describe these two closely related events.

“On Tuesday
November 6th sometime after 7pm some of us were at the apartments and some were
getting ready to head home for the night when the manager of the sewing company
stopped by asking what they were doing. Once they told him, he took them over
to where the shoe was and said it was not there Saturday when he closed his
store but it was there on Monday when he arrived to work. One of them called me
on my cell, so I, my wife, and Josh’s boss ran from the apartments to the
retention pond to take a look at the shoe. We looked at its size and once we
saw it matched Josh’s we then noticed that a few fence boards had been pulled apart
on the top but were still intact on the bottom. The manager of the sewing
company gave us permission to pull it apart to get in and walk around the
water. Josh’s boss and I walked the inside of the retention pond but couldn’t
find anything usual and searched the culverts that ran into the pond. At that
point I called the police.

“Once the police
arrived, they called in other units and I updated them on Josh. At that point
they made it a crime scene and called the missing persons detective on call.
Once they arrived they called in the fire department to dive the pond. While we
were all standing waiting for the dive team, an employee came out from the bar
and told us and one of the police officers that he had seen a shoe next to the
dumpster the night before and put it in the trash. The police did not search
the trash dumpster because trash had been picked up Monday afternoon.

“When the divers
arrived we were told what they would do and how they were going to search:
First they would walk the outside of the fence, then walk inside the fence,
then search the side of the pond and then go in to search using the checker
board approach. They stated if Josh was in the water they would find him as the
pond seems to be no more than 10 feet deep. We were waiting in our cars just a
few feet from the gate they opened to enter the boat. Half way through the
search we were told by the detective that they had found a black jacket and
they were going to finish searching the other half. We ask immediately to see
the jacket to ID it and we were told we could not see it as they were taking
pictures of it and that it was muddy and appeared like it had been in there
longer than Josh had been missing and it was most likely NOT his jacket. This
didn’t sit well with us but gave us a little hope that Josh was still out there
alive. We then came up with our next plan of action and started planning our
next large ground search.”

Q#12: What exactly is a retention pond,
is it ever used for public swimming, and when you first inspected this one and its
six-foot-high enclosure walls was there any indication that someone had
recently entered there, either by scaling the fence, crawling beneath it, or by
some other means? Also, are the pond banks gradually sloping, or sheer
drop offs?

“A retention pond
is used for drainage of parking lots when it rains. These ponds are off limits
for swimming and fishing. When we first arrived where the shoe was located, the
fence was partially pulled apart at the top which still did not allow easy
access. There were several areas around the fence that could easily be crawled
under and one in particular was only a few feet away where you could crawl
under the fence. There was no indication that someone had entered the retention
pond area. All these areas were recently boarded up after our son was found.
The entrance to the pond had a padlock on it which was removed when they
searched the pond and was not replaced until after we had found Josh. From what
we were told, the pond slopes down to about 10 feet deep from the bank.”

Q#13: Were you and your team present
nearly three weeks later when a body was retrieved from that same pond by
police? If so, briefly relay your observations, including whether the body was
found face down or not and whether the eyes were open and glistening.

“We were not
notified by IMPD they were pulling a body from the retention pond. We had found
out about this because someone had posted on our find Joshua Swalls Facebook
page that they were pulling a body out of the retention pond at 65th and
Keystone Avenue. I and my wife immediately grabbed our stuff and headed to the
location and contacted Joshua’s mother and stepfather on the way. His stepfather
had already arrived at the location prior to us. Due to the privacy fence
around the pond we could not see into the area where the body was located. I
myself so desperately wanted to climb in the back of the truck and look, but
then again my hope was that it was not him so I did not.

“Very little
detail was provided to us about how he was found in the water and his
appearance. We were only told he had on jeans, a t-shirt and his watch. Other
than that the coroner stated she could not find any tattoo markings on his
body. The Fire Department did tell us that one of his team members removing the
body said it looked like it had been in the pond for about a week.”

Q#14: If you will, please describe the
condition of the body once you were finally able to fully view it, including
how it was clothed. In your objective opinion as a military man, did it appear
that it had been dead and/or in the water for the entire length of time your
son was missing?

“Unfortunately,
we were never provided the opportunity to view our son at any period. We were
told that he had on his blue jeans, underwear and a T-shirt. This was very odd
to us because our son always wore socks even while in the house. As stated
earlier by the Fire Department, they said the body of our son looked like it
had been in the water for about a week. We had to identify Josh by pictures of
his tattoos on Saturday the day after. Then, when the coroner was at our house
showing us the pictures, she stated he appeared to have been in the water the
entire time he was missing. This, after saying she was 99% sure it was not our
son.

“Another odd
thing is that some of the tattoos were more faded then others which leaves us
to believe that maybe he was originally partially in water at some point. We
have had contact with some individuals who explained to us that all his tattoos
should have been faded, more especially if there was color involved in the
tattoo. This specific tattoo of a sword and a snake around it had very little
discoloration. But of course this is how the whole case went with our missing
son. They refused to show us anything regarding the possibility it could have
been our son, including the jacket that was pulled first from the pond.”

Q#15: When you re-inspected the pond
and surrounding enclosure at this later date, had any alterations been made
there? And, aside from searchers on the scene, did it appear that someone else may
have recently entered the premises, either by scaling the fence, crawling
beneath it, or by some other means?

“No changes were
made to the fence until after our son was discovered in the pond. The gate was left
unlocked after the first search and a new lock was installed once his body was recovered.
This is also when someone had placed new boards in the crawl areas at the
bottom of the fence, and the area that had been pulled back had also been fixed
so you couldn’t pull it open anymore.”

Q#16: Regarding the Marion County Coroner’s Office informing you (and the public) that the drown victim they
received was not your missing son, but reversing themselves on the very next
day…can you elaborate on this and explain the major mix-up as you understand
it?

“Yes, the coroner
did come and speak with us on Friday, November 23rd and stated she was 99%
positive it was not our son due to no signs of tattoos and because the body appeared
to be about 5’8”. We were not home when the coroner arrived to our house again,
this time to identify our son. My wife’s sister was home and called her to tell
her that the coroner needed to talk to us. The coroner then asked if we were
close to home and, when my wife said yes, she asked if we wanted to come home
or have them meet us somewhere else. My wife said no we were on our way home.
When we arrived she, along with the IMDP Chaplain, was waiting for us. The
coroner then stated that, after cleaning and processing a procedure they call “de-gloving” she was able to see the
wrist tattoos. We were then shown pictures of them and had to identify him from
those tattoos. These were the only photos the coroner brought to our house. Josh
was not formally identified until around Wednesday through his dental records.

“I cannot explain
the major mix up. How can you state that you are 99% positive it was not our
son, who had several tattoo marking on his body and a scar on his lip from a
dog bite? Saying you are 99% positive is the same as saying you are 100%
positive. This was a very disappointing moment for us because they had given us
some hope that maybe our son was still alive. It sent us all on an emotional
rollercoaster ride that no one should have had to endure. This is already a
nightmare and add to it no help from IMPD, the coroner misidentifies your son,
you can’t see the body for yourself…What can you feel but a sickening, absolute
disgust and angry feeling. Everyone had failed us and Joshua.”

Q#17: Weather archives for Indianapolis
during the period your son first went missing show average low temperatures at
the freezing point of 32 °F, the mean at 38 °F, and the
high just under 50 °F. In fact, the fourth of November saw a chilly mix of rain
and melting snow. Nevertheless,
there is speculation that despite it being cold outside Josh strolled the
distance to the enclosed retention pond in order to swim. If so, there is a
much closer pond with no fence preventing access to it right behind the
apartment he was visiting…can you comment on this aspect of the mystery?

“First of all,
our son was a good swimmer. We have a pool in the back yard amount 10 feet deep
and he would race his Aunt Stefanie in the pool every time we had a family get-together.
Temperatures during this period were up and down. Every day that we searched we
had nice weather in the 50’s and 60’s. And if our son was desperate to go for a
swim all he would have had to do was walk out the door of the apartment and
jump into a pond that has no fence around it. There was a pond directly behind
the apartment which you can see from the balcony of his friend’s apartment and
that same pond was next to where his car was parked. So why would our son go to
a retention pond that was fenced with a six-foot privacy fence and have to
struggle to get inside to take a swim? Why was his keys and wallet nowhere to
be found and not in his pocket? Why were there no socks lying around since he
had none on? These are all questions that are running through our mind that
IMPD obviously has not bothered to look into. Plus, our son wasn’t a walker so
he wouldn’t have just walked around an area, he would rather drive. We told the
police this and they just replied that we didn’t know his state of mind. But we
know people are creatures of habit no matter what they are doing.”

Q#18: Other men fitting Josh’s
description have been disappearing and drowning during cold weather now too, and
almost without exception, even when the victims supposedly tumbled down rocks, medical
examiners have said they found “no signs of trauma” on their bodies. That’s
also strange because the act of drowning is extremely traumatic and well over
ten percent of such victims will bruise and even rip muscles in their
shoulders, neck, and chest while struggling to save themselves—did the coroner
find any evidence of such bruising or ruptures in your son’s autopsy?

“The examination
has not been provided to us. The only type of trauma the coroner has stated is that Josh
had an abrasion around his knee area on one leg which they said could be from
the rocks around the retention pond. They also stated he could have slipped on
the rocks before going swimming…really…not so much. They are more out to give
reasons as to why it is accidental rather than looking at the case as a homicide.
It’s easier for them to do that since there was no evidence of trauma…open/close
case. We have found this seems to be the case a lot when bodies are found in
water. The homicide detective even stated it was hard to rule anything other
than accidental unless there is trauma. SAD and NOT RIGHT!!! When we ask about
specifics of a drowning victim we receive the same answer: that we have to wait
for the autopsy report. This is the same story we have heard from IMPD and the
coroner. IMPD will not proceed with anything until the autopsy report comes out,
which they say will take up to 8-10 weeks from when he was found. In fact, over
a week after our son was found the homicide detective hadn’t even really looked
at the case and still had to reach out to the missing person detective.”

Q#19: Did the coroner find any evidence
of external injuries, even minor, and, if so, where were these located and what
were they attributed to?

“Again, the
coroner has provided very little details to us. We hear the same answer for
every question we ask the coroner and IMPD: We have to wait for the autopsy
report to be released. Of course the homicide detective was not even aware that
they had our son’s phone in the property room even though the case was turned
over to him over two weeks ago. So obviously communication within the
department does not exist when passing a case over from missing persons to
homicide. It is sad to say but we the parents have to do IMPD’s job because
they won’t do it. Time is everything when trying to find out what happened. To
us this is not an open close case, SOMEONE KILLED OUR SON.”

Q#20: Were there any plants or other
foreign objects clutched in Josh’s hands, and did he have any items on his
person that didn’t belong to him, or items missing that still remain unaccounted
for?

“We were not
aware of any details of any plants or foreign objects he may have had in his
hands. He had a Bic lighter and his watch which had the date of November 9th on
it when we received it back from the coroner on 12/10/12. We do not know if
they paid any attention to the date on the watch when they removed him from the
water. It appears the watch was not working at some point. His car keys and
tool box keys are still missing which has very distinct keys for them. His wallet
has yet to be recovered.”

Q#21: Did the coroner find any water in the
stomach and/or the lungs? If fluids were indeed found in these organs, was it
tested against a sample of the water Josh was alleged to have drowned in, and
found to match? Also, did the coroner determine that Josh had entered the water
feet first, or head first?

“The coroner
would not tell me if they found any water in his lungs or stomach. All she
would tell me was that they were looking at “accidental drowning”. Since we
have received very textbook answers from the coroner we cannot say if they have
done any type of testing of the water. The same applies to if he entered feet
first or head first.”

Q#22: Was a diatom test conducted to
ascertain if the diatom breeds in your son’s system were identical to those
that naturally inhabit the waters he is alleged to have drowned in?

“We do not know
if they did this test as well.”

Q#23: If a diatom test was indeed
performed, were these microorganisms found to be clustered only in the airways
and/or stomach, or were they found to be evenly circulated throughout the
entire body?

“Unknown, since
we do not know if they did this test.”

Q#24: What was the average water
temperature of the pond during the timeframe your son was missing, and would
you know the depth of the water as well, particularly in the place that he was
found floating?

“I would say the
average temperature of the water was around 40-50 degrees. From what we were
told he was in the Northeast corner of the pond which is only two to five feet
deep depending exactly where he was at the time.”

Q#25: Have you revisited the recovery site
since the day Josh was found there and observed anything out of ordinary along
the banks or in the neighborhood?

“We have visited
the site on several occasions. The main changes we have seen are how they have
secured the areas that you could climb under around the retention pond. And they
have placed a lock back onto the gate of the entrance of the pond. Nothing else
has changed.”

Q#26:Where and in what condition was Josh’s cell phone ultimately recovered,
and who found and examined it first—you, a third party, or the police?

“Joshua’s phone
was in good condition. The friend had the phone in his possession. Once we
found our son’s car at the apartment I recovered his phone from the friend.
Once I received the pass code from Josh’s previous girlfriend I was able to
access the phone and examine it. It was later turned over to IMPD on Tuesday,
November 6th and we received the phone back on Monday, December 10th.”

Q#27:At present, what is the official theory
regarding the events that took place leading up to Josh’s disappearance and
entry into the pond, and what evidence have you uncovered on your own that
either supports or refutes this?

“Our son spent
the entire day with us until after dinner. He then said he was going to go
hangout with the friend. His plans changed 15 minutes later because the friend
wanted to take a nap around 6PM. Our son then went out on a first date with a
girl he had met who picked him up at the house and dropped him off after dinner
and a movie. There was a specific text message to the friend around 12:27AM
stating he was almost there. He had been text messaging his first date until
around 1:07AM when all his cell phone usage stopped. The friend claimed maybe
he had left with someone but yet there was no text or phone calls on his phone
to support this theory. The friend claims that Josh did not know anyone else in
the apartments. So where could he possibly be? There was nothing on his phone
until around 2:56AM when the friend called his cell phone six times until
around 3:17AM, which he claims the phone was on silent when I asked him about
it. The phone’s volume was at its max when I received the phone. This has a
very loud ring.

“We had K-9 units
out helping us search who came across a couch that was placed in the dumpster
outside of the apartment that the dog had a hit on. IMPD refused to come out
and collect the couch even though we had two individuals that described the
couch the friend had in his apartment without seeing pictures of the actual
couch in the dumpster. In fact, Josh’s keys and wallet have never been
recovered. Josh typically will lay his keys down on a table and he will do the
same with his wallet if he trusts the people around. Other than that he would
have had his wallet in his possession. So where are these items now? The friend
also turned over a shirt my son was wearing that evening which my wife noticed
had some areas that appeared to have dirt on it. When she told the lead detective,
she said they couldn’t use it because we had touched it. To this day it lies
off to the side so no one can touch it. IMPD did not even bother to look at our
son’s car. They did come to our house and search the car but only well after
the fact.”

Q#28: Throughout law enforcement’s handling
of your son’s disappearance and death, do you feel they have been 100% helpful
and forthright?

“Absolutely
not!!! We feel that IMPD treated this as a runaway from the start. They did
very little as far as searching for our son. They refused to allow Texas Equu
Search (TES) to come in and help even though it was free to IMPD, to us the
family and to the State of Indiana. Shannon (Josh’s stepmom) had started a
petition to get IMPD to allow this team to come in and help. TES has the best
equipment to do land, air and water searches. TES even reached out to us saying
they were ready and how sorry they were because IMPD wouldn’t let them come in
to help. Shannon then wrote a letter stating all our concerns to the lead
detective of missing persons and asked very detailed questions about IMPD’s
policies and procedures in many areas, and requested her boss be forwarded the
letter and that we wanted a meeting. This was all sent on Wednesday (the day
before Thanksgiving).”

“On top of that,
IMPD refused to come out and look at the couch found though it appeared to have
blood on it (it could have been evidence to possibly link foul play). Then IMPD
missing persons called us down to their office the day before Thanksgiving to
follow a tip they had received. First of all, they could not remember what day
they received this tip, as they went back and forth between Monday and Tuesday,
and then they said they just received the video Wednesday morning. Once I
viewed the picture they showed us, they immediately said Josh could be
disguising himself with a haircut and beard. As I told the detective, first of
all if my son got a haircut he would be bald as he already had short hair. And as
to growing a beard in the matter of a week or two, that would be impossible
since he inherited my traits of very little facial hair. When asked who they
received this tip from, all they would tell us is that it was a family dollar
store. So, as you can see, they provided little help. We think they did this
because of the letter Shannon had sent and because we were pushing for detailed
answers. Had this been one of their own they would have all been involved until
the end.”

Q#29: Have you received the final autopsy
and toxicology reports yet, and, if so, can you share any or all of these
findings with the public now?

“We have yet to
receive any reports. They are telling us it will be another *4-6 weeks before
the final autopsy will be available to us. They cannot even provide us with a
date of death and from what we have been told from the coroner’s office when
picking up Josh’s personal effects the representative said they will probably
use the date he was found because they cannot determine the date of death on
anyone in water for a period of time.”*INTERVIEWER'S NOTE - January 18th 2013: Toxicology reports finally came in for Josh Swalls this month---all results are negative. There were no drugs or alcohol in his system.

Q#30: Do you believe your son really went
for a swim and drowned, or do you think he was murdered?

“We are without a
doubt sure our son did not go for a swim in cold water. He would not even get
in our pool if the water was cold. With the evidence we have seen and how close
I and my wife are to Joshua we do believe he was murdered. All we want is
justice to be served for his murder. IMPD needs to change the way they treat
all these young victims who are placed in water.

Also missing/drowned from this same area was Walton Matthew Ward, 23

Scroll down to read complete interview with Ward's family spokesperson

INTERVIEW #1 - Published December 5, 2012

Interview with the family of Walton Matthew Ward, 23, who disappeared/drowned under suspicious circumstances in Indianapolis in October 2012. Case overview:

On
October 23, 2012, the body of Walton "Matt" Ward was recovered from
the White River near 64th Street and Westfield Boulevard in Indianapolis. The
23-year-old man had gone missing on Friday, October 12th. Ward
was visiting from California that week and planned to hook up
with a girl he'd met on OkCupid.com. His mother said she dropped him off
outside Peppers
Bar where the two had arranged to meet, but then never saw her son
alive again.

The owner of the pub confirmed that Ward was there alone and
stayed for about an hour or so before departing alone as well. He said the girl
never showed.

At
around 10:30 that same night Ward spoke to his mother by cell phone and told her that he
was okay, but at approximately 1:30 a.m. on October 13th he placed a 911
call from his cell which only lasted for one second before
terminating. Shortly thereafter Ward disappeared. Detectives traced
the call back to a cell phone tower in Broad Ripple and the device itself was recovered in the parking lot of Applebee's restaurant. Ward's drowned corpse was ultimately found almost two weeks later north of that location. Subsequent toxicology reports showed his blood/alcohol level was only slightly above the legal limit for operating a motor vehicle.

Matt Ward's mother, Julie Kvinge, will discuss the case, the current status of the police investigation, and share other important details that the public should know about her son, his movements, and his interactions on the night he vanished.

by Eponymous Rox for Killing Killers - December 5, 2012

Q#1: To begin, introduce us to your son,
Julie. What was Matt up to in October 2012? What interests, skills, and long
term plans had he developed by the 23rd year of his life? Did he have any
pressing issues affecting his outlook? Had he ever had any run-ins with the
law, whether major or minor? What accomplishments was he most proud of?

“Matt was an
extremely motivated and determined young man. His main interest was undoubtedly
Muay Thai and Mixed Martial Arts combat fighting. He ate, slept, and breathed
Muay Thai. He would light up at the mention of anything related to the sport,
and could talk about it for as long as anyone would listen. He would wait
outside of his gym in California in the mornings waiting for it to open, and
then would spend hours training and watching others train. When he was not
training, he was pouring over interviews and video footage of professional Muay
Thai fighters trying to learn from them and improve his skills outside of the
gym.

“His dream was to
become a professional Muay Thai fighter, but he also knew he needed a college
education since the chances of becoming a professional athlete are slim and
injury rates in this sport are high. One of his goals was to complete a double
major that would bring together his love of fitness and nutrition with business
and economics. That way he would always be close to the sport he loved and be
able to make a living, if he was not able to do it professionally. He had a
major 'salesman quality' to him, he could sell you anything! He was extremely
outgoing, sociable and could talk to anyone. He had recently gotten a new job
selling alarm systems and was excited to get started. This job would also allow
him the opportunity to move to a nicer area in California.

“Matt did have
some run-ins with law
enforcement, most of which were traffic violations or alcohol related. Another
passion of his was the cause of most of his traffic violations, and that was
his Camaro z28. He loved working on cars, and he had 'modified' the Camaro to
his liking. Which means it was loud, fast, and did not sit well with the strict
California emissions requirements. He recently had to sell the car in favor of
getting something more economical, which was tough for him. He had ups and
downs like the rest of us, but he took them all in stride. He had worries over
things such as money, school and work, but his outlook on the future was
positive. He was never easily discouraged. He was the type of person that had
no regrets. He lived in the moment and saw mistakes as an opportunity for
growth.”

Q#2: Your son disappeared from Indianapolis
in the middle of autumn which in this particular region of the United States is
typically brisk. Weather archives for October 12th show clear skies and a
slight breeze, with the lowest temperature recorded that day at 33.1 °F; the mean 50.4 °F; and the high at only 62.1 °F. What was Matt
wearing when he went out, and how was he equipped if it suddenly got too chilly?

“Walton
Matthew was wearing a short sleeve T-shirt that was black with large white
lettering. I cannot remember what the T-shirt said, however it normally had
something to do with Muay Thai, Cross Fit Training and the CSA Gym where he trained
in California. He was also wearing black jeans with a more normal fit (not the
loose show your underwear) kind. He did not want to take his jacket with him,
he was afraid he might lose it and did not want to carry it around. He said, ‘Mom,
I will only be outside if I walk to another bar and they are all so close
together I will not get cold.’ I was concerned because I had on a pretty heavy
sweater, but he said he would be fine. Coming from California he found it very ‘cold’
here so I know he would not have been outside any longer than necessary.”

Q#3: You dropped Matt off at Peppers Bar—how
close is that to the water’s edge? Briefly describe this establishment and the
district it’s situated in, for those readers who are not fully familiar with
the Indy area.

“The neighborhood
‒ Broad Ripple – is a college bar town community for the most part, with a few
nice upscale restaurants nearer the water. Peppers Bar is located at the corner
of North College Ave and Broad Ripple Ave. North College is a main north/south
street that runs from Carmel all the way to downtown Indianapolis. Broad Ripple
Ave is an east/west street that is lined primarily with bars, and a few shops
on both the North and South sides of the avenue. Further north by a small
amount is Westfield Boulevard which runs right behind Broad Ripple Ave, and
Westfield Blvd bends north as you move eastward. This is where the canal that
runs into the White River resides.”

Q#4: Matt was going to Peppers to meet a
young woman he’d romantically connected with on OkCupid.com. It’s estimated now
that forty-million Americans have experimented with online dating in one form
or another and twenty-million say they visit a dating site at least once a
month. Do you know if your son had ever relied on such methods before, or was this
his very first hookup?

“He had used the
dating website before while he was in California and had met one or two girls
in person that he connected with online. It never resulted in a serious
relationship, maybe a few dates.”

Q#5: Tell us what you know about the young lady
Matt was hoping to meet. Had you ever met the woman yourself or spoken with
her? What was her online handle and her name in real life? How did she portray
herself in the avatar she’d uploaded on that dating site?

“I did not meet
or speak with her personally, but he did tell me about her and showed me her
pictures. She was attractive and petite with long brunette hair. In the photos
he showed me, she wore her hair in loose curls and had stylish, bold black-framed
glasses on in one of them. She said she was from the small town of Brownsburg,
Indiana. He said that she was currently in college and that her plan was to
become a lawyer. One odd thing that he mentioned about her was that she told
him she had gotten a college scholarship for wrestling. Upon looking into this,
I have not been able to find any school that has a women's wrestling program. The
Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department [did not question her] and still
have not had their cyber unit complete that part of the investigation.”

Q#6: It seems on its face an understandable
precaution for Matt’s prospective date to bring a couple of friends with her,
but was there anything about the arrangement that struck you as peculiar and
cause for concern when he first discussed it with you? Who exactly were these
friends she intended to bring, and how were they all arriving?

“He had met up
with her in the week prior to that night and said that she had come with a few
friends to make it more of a laid back group environment. They were not going
on 'dinner and a movie' type dates, it was more of a casual situation where
they were hanging out and getting to know each other. It seemed to make sense
that she was possibly being cautious, as a young woman meeting up with a man
that she met online. That Friday night, I understood that he would be meeting
her and her same friends he had met the other night and that she and the
friends would ride together and meet him at Peppers around 9:30 pm. Since they
were going to a bar and not on an actual date, having a group of people did not
seem suspicious.”

Q#7: You say Matt cell-phoned you around
10:30 PM that evening to touch base again. Even though he reported that
everything was all right, intuitively speaking, could you tell if he seemed
troubled or not? Did he explain to you that he’d been stood up, and, if so, did
he sound upset about it?

“I actually
called him to check in; he sounded perfectly fine. He was upbeat and in a good
mood and said he was having a good time and was going to stay out. He did not
say anything about her standing him up. I don't think he would get that upset
about her not showing up, it would be typical of him to shrug it off and enjoy
the night anyway. There was a music festival going on in Broad Ripple the next
night, and there were some bands that he was interested in seeing. He had no
problem talking to people or making friends, so going to a bar alone would not
be a daunting task for him as it would for many people his age.”

Q#8: After the two of you spoke and hung up,
did you have any apprehensions at this point regarding your son’s impromptu
plans for the rest of his evening? How was he supposed to get home afterward and
what time?

“I think as a
mother you always worry a bit about their plans, however I thought: he is an
adult and certainly had fully taken care of himself in Oakland, CA. I felt
questioning too much would be overstepping a bit. Regarding getting home, he
was to call me for a ride, or take a cab. He also said, depending on where the
girl lived and if the group of friends were staying over at her house, he might
just sleep there for the night. They had all planned on going to the music
festival together the next day.”

Q#9: Was his not coming home when he said
he would, nor calling to inform you where he had gone instead, out of character
for Matt?

“It would not be
completely out of character for him. He was not used to having to check in
during a night out or give frequent updates on his whereabouts after living by
himself in California for years. He even lived in the high crime city of
Oakland for most of that time without incident, so what could possibly happen
to him in Broad Ripple, Indiana? He saw himself as being very street smart and
capable of taking care of himself, which he was. So it wouldn't be surprising
if he met some new people and had gone back to their home to continue hanging
out and partying after the bars closed.”

Q#10: When did you realize something was
wrong and start searching for him? Where did you go first and did you do this
alone?

“I really started
worrying Sunday night. I knew they planned to go to the music festival on
Saturday and with 12 bands is was predicted to go very, very late. I did try to
call him, but did not get any answer. I realized the phone he had was probably
dead unless someone had a Blackberry charger. I was worried but tried to tell myself
he would be OK. When Monday rolled around I went to the Carmel police and
reported him missing. I did go to Broad Ripple and walk up and down the streets,
but I had no idea where to even start.”

Q#11: During your own initial inquiry into
Matt’s disappearance, was everybody’s story adding up, or was there anyone’s
account that you found somewhat wanting or questionable?

“I really had no
one to ask. He went there to meet a girl I did not know, nor did I even know
her name. I realized I needed to get the word out quick so I started posting
missing persons signs everywhere on Broad Ripple Avenue and talking to anyone
who would talk to me. I started at the bar I dropped him off at (Peppers) and
the bar owner was very helpful. He called in his employees that were working
that evening and the bouncer and bartender both remembered Walton and both said
he was alone, not with a girl or a group. The bar owner had all the video tape
pulled for the evening and it confirmed he went in alone, had a beer or two and
left alone. He could tell from the video that Walton was texting someone....who
we do not know.

“I walked east up
Broad Ripple Ave and did not meet anyone else who said they had seen him.
Coming back done on the other side of Broad Ripple Ave (headed west), I came to
a bar called Mindshaft and the bouncer recognized his picture right away. The
bartender did also, and they both confirmed he had been sitting at the bar with
three regulars.

“At some point
the regulars left and Walton did not go with them. The next bar west of
Mindshaft was Landsharks. When I went into Landsharks they had almost no
customers and a group of employees were standing all together toward the back
of the bar. I showed them Walton's picture and they confirmed he was there late
Friday night and dancing. The bartender said at one point Walton had taken his
outer shirt off and was just wearing his black T-shirt on the dance floor. He
said he had to ask Walton to put his regular shirt back on. My question was ‘Did
he?’ He said, yes, no problem. I must admit looking back, I had a very funny
feeling when I left that bar and I am now sure they knew more than they were
willing to say.”

Q#12: When did you decide to report to the
police that your son was missing, and what was their immediate response?

“I reported him
missing on Monday mid-day to the Carmel police (where I live). I was informed
the next day that I needed to file a report in Marion county that Broad Ripple
was not in their jurisdiction, and they could not transfer the paperwork (so we
lost a day). I then went and filled out all the paperwork again with IMPD and
was finally assigned a case worker on Thursday of that week. When I met with
her she had no concern, she just said, ‘He is an adult and I am sure he is just
out having fun somewhere and he will show up. After all,’ she said, ‘I have 30
other cases of runaways 17 and under and I have got to give them more of my
time and attention.’

So their
immediate response was poor. I should have been told day one to file the
paperwork in Marion County and I was not happy to hear from the missing person
case worker/detective that in her opinion he was most likely staying with
people he had met and would come home and that most young men that go missing
will come around in a few days.”

Q#13: Do you know which cops were
patrolling the neighborhood where your son was that night, and if any off-duty officers
happened to be acting as bouncers in any of the establishments Matt might have visited?

“I do not know
the names of any of the cops that were on duty that night. I do know when I
dropped him off there were two police cars in the middle of the street with
policemen in uniform. I asked about them later and was told they are off duty
cops hired by the bar owner of Mindshaft to assist with keeping order.”

Q#14: Were there any arrests made on that
night/morning in the vicinity of where your son was? Also, do you know if
anyone was ejected from any of the premises he may have been visiting for
drunken or disorderly conduct?

“None that I am
aware of, however I have not asked that question.”

Q#15: To the best of your knowledge, had
Matt become overly-intoxicated during his night out? Was he himself involved in
any altercations, verbal or otherwise, and, if so, was this type of behavior customary
for him at his age?

“I can tell from
the video tape he had two to three beers at Peppers. I know from the bartender
at Mindshaft he had one beer and one shot. The guys at Landsharks did not say
what he was served. I have heard from the police that Walton was escorted out
of Landsharks at 1:20 AM - the police have still not talked with the bouncer
who escorted him out so I do not know why. What I do know is that at 1:34 he made
a 911 call that lasted one second and was never heard from again.”

Q#16: By some eyewitness accounts, Matt was
said to be in the company of two “local” men just a few short hours before he
vanished. Can you confirm this and, if so, could you tell us what you’ve learned
about these individuals? Were they ever identified and questioned by
authorities and, if not, why not?

“I do not know
the men nor have I talked with them. I have been told by IMPD that they have
talked with them and found out nothing. The guys at the bar gave the police
their names and they are known as regulars in the bar. The bartender and
bouncer said they seem OK, no real trouble with them ever before.”

Q#17: What was the scope of the official
search for Matt once it was legally established he was a missing person? When
and where was it initially launched, and when and why did it officially conclude?

“I was the only
one looking for my son. The IMPD and missing persons did nothing. Well, excuse
me, they did make up a poster and gave me about eight copies. I went to Kinkos
and had 100 made and starting putting them up myself all over Broad Ripple. The
news channels Fox 50 and Wish Channel TV 8 ran stories on my son and we did
several interviews at my home and in Broad Ripple.”

Q#18: Who was it that actually discovered
Matt’s body in the water near Broad Ripple on October 23rd 2012, and how did
this person come to be there? Also, where in proximity to Peppers Bar is this
spot?

“His body was
discovered by construction workers adding to the dam in the White River. From
Peppers, I guess it would be around a mile or less.”

Q#19: You were the one who identified the
corpse retrieved from the White River as your missing son—was this done through
a visual inspection or by matching Matt’s dental records? If you will, what was
the condition of his body the day it was pulled from the water, and did you
notice anything else about it which you found curious and would like to comment
on?

“I was not able
to see my son at all. I was informed by both news channels that a body had been
pulled from the White River and did I have a comment. Honestly at that moment
in time, I thought Why would they call me
for a comment on a body pulled from the White River? What could I possibly know
about that? Then the reality started to sink in. I headed for the White
River, and at the same time received a call from the bar owner at Peppers
telling me how sorry he was and did I need any help. I told him I was on my way
to the river to see if it was my son. He told me they already have the body and
are headed to the Marion County coroner’s office.

“I immediately
told him then that is where I am headed and he said ‘I will meet you there, you
should not have to go through this alone.’ I did hear from the police the
missing persons detective (hard for me to call her anything but a case worker)
and she said ‘We did pull a body from the White River. Can you tell me about
Walton's dental work.’ I asked her, ‘What do you want to know?’ She said, ‘Just
tell me anything remarkable about his dental work.’

“All I could
think of was Matt had braces at age 13, and really that was it. I said, ‘You do
not need dental work to identify my son. He has very specific tattoos,’ which I
started to describe. I was promptly cut off by her and told to just answer her
question regarding the dental work, did I not understand they have
procedures!!!! She told me not to worry and she would call me in the morning if
it was my son. I said I understand they are taking him to the Marion County
Coroner's office, and she told me I was not allowed to go down there! As I was
hanging up on her I just said, ‘Watch me and try to stop me!’ Upon arriving I
was presented with his wallet, ID, and keys from his pocket. The coroner also
confirmed the tattoos and I knew right then it was my son.”

Q#20: Were there any plants or other foreign
objects clutched in Matt’s hands? Did he have items on his person that didn’t
belong to him, or items missing that still remain unaccounted for?

“I was not told,
nor did I ask, about anything in his hands. The only unaccounted for item would
have been his car keys. His car was parked in a garage in Oakland, CA. He had
almost $200.00 of cash, credit cards and keys to my house. No car keys were
found and the cell phone he was using was missing.”

Q#21: In the preliminary examination of his
corpse, did the medical examiner find any water in the stomach and/or the
lungs? If fluids were indeed found in these organs, was it tested against a
sample of the water Matt was alleged to have drowned in, and found to match?

“I have asked to
see the report and I am awaiting this information.”

Q#22: Was a diatom test conducted to
ascertain if the diatom breeds in your son’s system were identical to those
that naturally inhabit the waters he is alleged to have drowned in?

“I do not know.”

Q#23: If a diatom test was indeed performed,
did the medical examiner find that these microorganisms were clustered only in
the airways and/or stomach, or were they found to be evenly circulated throughout
the entire body?

“I do not know.”

Q#24: What was the average water temperature
during the timeframe your son was missing, and would you know the depth of the river
at the place where he was found and the speed of its currents?

"All I know is where he was found
the depth was two feet. The current runs at a pretty good clip...Not sure what
the speed would be. I asked IMPD; of course they had no idea in either
question.”

Q#25: Have you revisited the Broad Ripple recovery
site since the day Matt was found there and observed anything out of ordinary along
the shore?“I have been
there twice and my father and I were just there on Monday of this week. I
cannot say I noticed anything unusual, however they are doing construction on
the old dam so things are changing every day at the recovery site.”

Q#26: It has been reported that an
emergency call was placed from your son’s cell phone near Broad Ripple in the
early morning hours of October 13th but quickly interrupted—did you explore that
particular location as well and observe anything out of the ordinary there? Also,
do you have any additional information to share about the 911 call now?

“The 911 call
lasted one second. I know that it pinged off the tower at the Broad Ripple fire
station. I have been there and talked with the fireman on duty; he had nothing
to report, but was going to give Walton's picture to the other guys and put it
up in the firehouse.”

Q#27: Where and in what condition was
Matt’s cell phone ultimately recovered, and who found and examined it first—you
or the police?

“The cell phone
was recovered about eight days after Walton's body was found. Given he was
missing for nine days, that would suggest the cell was missing for 17 days. It
was found outside of Applebee's behind the restaurant. It was found by someone
who takes their boat over to Applebee's area and climbs up the steep bank by
pulling himself up by a big steel chain. He turned the cell phone in to the
Indianapolis Yacht Club, who turned it in to the police. The phone was dead.
The police receiving the phone charged it up and found my name in the in-case-of-emergency
section on the front screen. The phone was turned into IMPD homicide for
inspection. They just finished with it and again said they found nothing. We
asked if it had been dusted for prints and they said no!”

Q#28: Who first discovered the cell data
concerning the emergency phone call, and how did detectives react when they
learned that Matt had dialed 911 only minutes before he went missing?

“The missing
person detective had the phone records pulled, so we knew very early he had
dialed 911. Their answer was it was probably a misdial, no worries.”

Q#29: Was the 911 call the last one Matt
made, and who else had he chatted with or attempted to notify in the course of
that entire evening?

“Yes, the 911
call was the last outgoing call I am aware of. I can now pick the phone up at
IMPD, not sure what good it will do now. They have been messing with it for
weeks. Who knows what they have done.”

Q#30: Throughout law enforcement’s handling
of your son’s disappearance and drowning, do you feel they have been 100% helpful
and forthright?

“NO, and I [take
issue] with their incompetence. [The answer below is from Matthew’s father, my
ex-husband.]”

“The answer is
absolutely NO. The IMPD effort has been very frustrating and unresponsive
during the entire process from the initial missing report to this moment! IMPD
initially filed the necessary electronic missing person report but took no
action to investigate the case. It appears they chose to manage the case from
behind their desk and did not take any proactive action. My ex-wife assumed the
investigative responsibility by going to various bars in the Broad Ripple area
interviewing bar managers, security personnel, bartenders and employees. She
established locations, timelines, videos, and contact names who had met my son
that night. She obtained mobile phone and computer data to help trace leads.
She had posters with a picture made, posted and distributed. She contacted the
media and conducted multiple TV interviews to increase awareness. All pertinent
information was given to IMPD for follow up. IMPD was lethargic with the follow
up appearing to hope my son would magically appear. The one consistent response
we got from IMPD was how very busy and overworked the detectives were with each
handling approximately 30+ cases.

“Not until the
body was recovered and positively identified 11 days later (Oct 23) in the
White River did any real follow up take place. The response was still very slow
taking weeks to make contacts, conduct interviews, search the area and gather
facts. To this date (Dec 5) many questions remain without answers. We had
provided a specific list of open issues . Yet IMPD has classified his death as
accidental due to drowning, stating it appears my son accidently fell into the
canal. It is very suspicious and illogical that a very healthy and strongly
trained 23-year-old athlete ‘fell’ and drown in three feet of water on his own.

Q#31: What is the current status of the
police investigation into Matt’s death, and have you received the final autopsy
and toxicology reports yet? If so, can you share any or all of these findings
with the public?

“As it stands
right now it will be accidental. They found ‘no defensive wounds’ or head
injuries. I do not think they could tell too much about scratches after nine
days in the water. However when pressed, they indicated ‘no trauma’ whatsoever.”

Interviewer's note: There were three very different
Blood/Alcohol findings (BAC) in this case, depending on the organ tested. These
were: 0.132 in the eye, 0.28 in the heart, and 0.4 in the urine. Police told Julie
Kvinge they “don’t know what this means.” HOWEVER, these authorities knew or should have known that the reading from the vitreous in the eye is the only one that matters in a decomposing corpse. Matt Ward's official BAC then, adjusted to account for additional alcohol produced during putrefaction, equals a mere 0.09 to 0.11 at best. (FYI: 0.08 is the legal limit for driving a motor vehicle.)

Q#32: Do you believe your son really
drowned, or do you think he was murdered?

“My son was murdered, and I will
spend the rest of my life looking for who did this cowardly act to my son. I
know this group or whatever they are have gotten away with this over and over. I
believe from what I know their time is coming to an end very soon.” - Julie Kvinge, mother

“I believe he was murdered on the
basis of: 1) a 911 mobile call being placed at 1:40 am and terminated within
one second 2) his cell phone was found two weeks later in workable condition on
the bank of the canal (normally would be in his pocket) 3) he was in excellent
physical condition capable of getting out of three feet of water and, 4) he was
visiting from California and was not familiar with the area and accessible
paths to the canal. My conclusion: Someone (probably more than one) was with him
and knows what happened.” - Walt Ward,
father

37 comments:

My heart aches for the families of these young men, taken from this world too soon...I am glad to see that SOMEONE is taking the obvious similarities in these cases as more than just coincidence - why have the police NOT come to this same conclusion. I have thought this must be more than unlikely coincidence since I heard there was a 2nd missing young man (Swalls), mere blocks from where Ward was found drowned. This is particularly tightening, as I have sons who closely match the physical descriptions of these poor boys. We live in Indianapolis and my sons and their young friends visit this "Broadripple" area occasionally. They are responsible about their occasional drinking, as it sounds like Ward and Swalls were, and last I checked just because a young man of legal age drinks occasionally is not a reason to suspect they are irresponsible, reckless with their lives, OR could reasonably be expected to swim in rank waters and "accidentally drown". please continue to pressure authorities to pursue this, and if the public can do anything to assist, I am glad to help from Indianapolis, just e-mail me. I can't imagine this happening to any of the bright young men I know, who happen to fit this profile, and again my heart breaks that this has happened to these boys and their loved ones.

Hello, Tumbleweed--very nice to hear from Indiana today, and thank you for posting.

Also missing from your fair city (of Indianapolis) is 28-year-old Cole Rupard, who was last seen on November 20th, 2012. There is a post dedicated to the search for him on this site which includes his missing-persons photo and some contact details. Probably best to print and share it, if you can, as there has been no cell phone, bank account or OnStar activity recorded since he disappeared.

DECEMBER 6, 2012 / Regarding Interview #1: Anyone with any information whatsoever regarding Walton Matthew Ward's disappearance and drowning in Indiana this past October is urged to contact detective Robert Flack of the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department [IMPD] at 317-327-3742.

I was a witness the day the Police Officer took the missing persons report to know exactly what the friend had said. The friend specifically told the Police Officer that he was drunk and had to show up that way when confronted he did not have time to be drunk. And please get your story straight when you talk about him. First he was trained in Martial Arts but now you are saying he was trained in Boxing. To set the record straight he was trained in neither. So please get your story straight and quit changing your story each time you make a post. He had no specialized training at all. He was a normal kid. His passion was Skate Boarding which requires none of the above mentioned. His other passion was an Automotive Technician which again requires none of the other training. He wanted to open his own garage. The most he ever did was workout to stay in good health. Which is the only other passion he had from his father.

So rather the friend would not hurt a butterfly had nothing to do with the issue at hand. There has been several witnesses step up that have specifically said what the friend does for a living and how he likes to experiment with certain unauthorized items. And you have to question that if he has poor lung health why would he be smoking? And I have witnessed this myself. So please get your story straight before you speak. A person with poor lung health would not be smoking Pot. If I'm incorrect on this please advise but again I have witnessed this for myself.

This is posted by a concerned person who knows more about the friend then you may want to think.

So if he loved Josh so much why don't he tell the police what he gave him and what it was mixed with. They already know that the friend supplied something. So how is he not responsible. So don't try and make him look so innocent. A true friend would not have let him leave. A true friend would have been out searching for him. Little hard to see how you can love someone like a brother and do what you have done. No one that I'm aware of has stalked, threatened, or was acting violent to the friend. And if he has a medical condition then he should not be sharing his items.

OK first of all, I am one of josh is friends and a close one at that!! I loved josh very much and I was a true friend to him as he was to me, and all I can tell you is that your full of shit the friend messes with lots of things not just pot fact, I never once seened him looking for his friend or came to any of the searches at all, also when he or his family were asked about josh they used his name as past tense sounds odd to me!! its easy to make someone out to be great person, but I know about friend and I know that he sells (narcotics)fact, I also beleave with all of my heart that he know's more than he is saying my friend did not come to his house drnk or intox , but he did go there to get (something) fact, so stop with all he is great person because a great person would have been out there trying to find his friend in till the end, trust me I know I was there looking in till the end and still looking , I spent a lot of time with josh so when you say that josh had other issues ok, but he would not just run off crazy and leave his phone behind trust me when I tell you this beacaue I know that to be a fact, all I know is that someone knows more than what there saying, weather scared or not I would have been looking for my friend or at least called some one becaues my friend step out and never came back, your stupid person you aint got me fooled at all, dont talk about friends because a friend would never be left behind in my book, get your story strait stop sugar coating of what a great person and he loved and bla bla bla because again if this was so the friend would have had his ass out there looking period, and if your such a good freind who are you? whats you name I bet you wont say you name and if you dont you must not really be a good friend!!!

Read the previous messages thoroughly before saying someone needs to get facts straight. The post have been written by other people. I know what the friend does. As well as I know he had two guys break into a his old apartment and pistol whip him in the middle of the night. And the fact is you think I'm someone that I'm not. I know the friend very well as I have been to his apartment several times.

I'm going to step in here and moderate, because you are posting cryptic comments, deleting them, and then reposting equally cryptic ones again with slightly altered versions of your story each time.

First, the purpose of the VOICES FOR THE DEAD feature is to allow loved ones of the deceased to illuminate facts of the case presently shrouded in darkness.

In that respect, you have info as the last person to have seen Josh Swalls alive. In any police investigation that would make you the primary suspect, especially since statistics also show that roughly 85% of victims of homicide personally knew their murderer. So you shouldn't be miffed if members of the public are also suspicious of your role in Josh Swalls' death.

You have been accused by the victim's family and friends of changing your account to them and to police officers, and here too you are constantly modifying your comments, so...

Whatever your personal issues are, no matter, you are obligated under law and in the name of humanity to be truthful. Now please tell my readers and Josh Swalls' loved ones what they want and need to know about his alleged drowning:

1. Why did Josh leave your apartment so abruptly?2. What did he say to you as he left?3. Who and what did you see in the parking lot where he was headed?4. How did he end up in the pond and when?5. Why did you throw your couch into the dumpster soon thereafter, and was it Josh's blood the sniffer dogs hit on there, or just his scent?6. What illegal activity are you suggesting is key to Josh's otherwise inexplicable behavior and disappearance?7. How did Joshua Swalls actually expire? (Please describe, if you witnessed his death.)

In closing I will just add this: I was once young too, and like all young people I and my friends did a fair share of partying--pools, ponds, rivers, lakes, streams, and oceans never claimed our lives as a consequence, especially not in cold weather. This "he was drunk and drowned" business over these past 15 years is, IMHO, stupid and insulting to the memories of these young men, all of whom vanished under classicly suspicious circumstances, not to mention that any premature death warrants a full police investigation.

Because these victims are all young males, they're not getting even that much from the authorities unless, as with Chris Jenkins' parents who had a lot of resources, families chase down the Truth to the ends of the universe. Official neglect of that order is an absolute crime after the fact.

So what is 90 Q 10 that the friend purchased about 20 of them????? So what were these pills the friend had purchased since you have all the answers? What did the friend do with these pills? You say he only smokes pot but he sent text messages saying he had the pills and that they were dropped off to him.

Since you state the pond was unlocked explain to me why the Fire Department had to get bolt cutters to cut the lock? And you state this was the first day you searched. What day was this?

And to answer your questions about why no one just asked because the family was told to stay away from him and IMPD would not tell them anything that was talked about.

Please explain the reason why the two stopped talking a year and a half ago. Was it due to a specific girl that the friend was dating and started dating Josh?

And if the phone was on silent why was it on full volume when he turned the phone over?

And really no one is accusing the friend that he may have necessarily murdered Josh. They all just believe he knows more then what he has said.

You state you knew Josh for 4 years and that he use to sell. Is it not true that the friend was trying to get Josh to sell or was he already selling for the Friend?

Again when I read everything you have wrote it really seems that you were in the apartment that evening.

And again it was not the family that brought up the drugs and the fact that he deals. This was one of his own friends that has stayed in his apartments (before and current).

I have already said the facts about the friend he sells narcotics this again is a fact it seems to me that people want say josh was on drugs well if this was the case I can tell you that he was not on major drugs I dont look at pot as something major, but the fact is the friend sold josh pills that night I have read this already the message came from the friend period so if he does not sell drugs what was he selling that night, fact to is if he so loved his freind again he would have sat down with family and tried to help figure things out but he did not, fact that josh ran off dont beleive he just ran off unless some one was going to hurt him, there is alot that could have been done on the friends part and again he did not, and of course he will cooperate with the police he would have been stupid not to , but that does not clear him of anything, but I will tell you its not about what they did its about the out come its about the fact that my friend is in the ground at 22 and that the friend is a coward because he did nothing to help and that because he knows more that what he saying, I know for a fact that he does sell drugs, let's just understand Im not here to have a pissing contest Im here because I no things about the freind because we have mutual friends that I see and no one that josh new, and again I am not family, but I was great friends with josh and I new his struggles I spent alot of time with him, we just want you to understand that we are smart enough to no josh didnt go in that pond by him self and the fact is he was place there and we know he was not there on NOV 7th and was found there 16 days also his shoes where found on the 7th but to me it looked like some one place the shoe there to makes us think he was in the pond so it was searched and he was not there and later placed there to throw of the investagation , as far as impd hey its an easy case for them to just say well accidential, but I put as much faith in them as I do the friend telling the truth, I think if you didnt do it you would trying to clear your name , so the last person to type the last post how would you know what happend you were not there only the friend and the girl friend remember, so if you where there now its 3 people in the apt, Do not Insult MY Intelligence, I have read the last post about slander well sue me then, Because you can make your boy friend look as good as you want him to look, but the truth of what you are saying is really not the truth is it? there is only one way you can clear your name in my mind, also how does this person know josh had four thousand dollars worth of drugs at his moms house a year ago or so, maybe thats what all this was about maybe he owed some one money maybe it was the friend hmm, we can speculate all day long but the fact is he was with the friend when he went missing, prove your in Innocence,

Another question is why would a friend that knows the friend write on Facebook you might as well start diving the ponds? Seems they know something about him or who he hangs out with.

And for the record Josh was on probation and taking drug test. And did not fail them obviously because he would have went to jail.

And Josh's friend did get the date off for when the pond was searched. The pond was searched on 11/6/12.

And you speak of how the friend loved Josh and how the mother even said he loved Josh. Why would you have used Loved as a past tense? Of course the mother freaked out when she heard this. The last thing she wanted to think was her son was dead. The comments along seemed you knew more. Because anyone else would have used Loves Josh because they wanted to believe he was still alive.

Seems you may not know who your own friends are. Because they have talked openly and freely about your past time. Which contradicts everything that you have said about your friend or for this case may be yourself.

So again all the family asked for was just the truth of what happened.

You asked questions I answered, not because I had to because I wanted to help put you at ease, the 90 q 10 is a 90 per 10 grams of weed and this isn't the girl friend, now I do understand you don't actually care about the truth, you just want blood, I hope you can one day see that there is no blaming this on anyone, just like if you where to take something or do something that killed you it would be souly on you. Like I said not that you care, Zach does not do anyhitng but smoke pot. I am sorry I hoped this would answer your questions, like I said obviously you don't care, I did this for you, Zach's name is clear he did not do anything, so this is the last you will hear from me and I'm taking down all the post, the world doesn't need to know what Josh did in his free time and I don't want anyone to think anything less of him in any way, all the ones I took down before was to word things differently as to not offend you. I wish the world wasn't a cruel place were people die and intolerance rules. You have a family to take care of, I send you and them my best, one day when and if you can see past your pain, you will understand that you where told the truth and refused to accept it,I hope that day comes, because all the investigation in the world can't make an innocent man guilty nor will your slander. Once again I'm sorry for the burden you have to carry, this will be the last time you hear from me until you are willing to listen when you ask questions.

You know I do feel it best you stop writing on here. Your stories have not been consistent, unless you were in that apartment you too have to go based off of what you were told and piece things together as the family must do but on a much worse case, you talk about slander but what do you think you are doing talking about Josh…who isn't here to talk for himself, you state you know Josh but then you state you haven’t seen him in a while so why talk like you know him…people change, you talk about Josh having issues don’t we all especially when we are young and just starting out in life, it’s called growing up and learning responsibility doesn't mean anything less of a person to have issues. When things have been stated on the families’ side about very specific items it’s because they are from "the friend" and we have the proof of what he has said in writing. It’s called text messages. I will also tell you that Josh’s family has never threaten "the friend" so he may think whatever he wants. Josh’s mother took one picture of him and he called the police so don’t make that little situation bigger than what it really is. Yes a couple family members tried to talk to "the friend" because he was the last one to she Josh thinking he was a friend…friends help…he would only say “I don’t know what happen…sorry”, “I will let you know if I see him” all while looking away and not face to face with the family. So when people say he didn't talk to the family he did have a chance but really said nothing. When it came from searching…the family started searching that very same day he was reported missing and he never came out of his apartment to offer to help, same with the next day and so on. So how would one feel threaten when they never even tried. If it was your family member and the last person to be with your loved one never came up to you and asked to help wouldn't you think it was odd?

On day four of searching is when the picture was taken, same day friends and family came out to search on a large scale which is when "the friend" ran into family members. So once again, he had the opportunity to help and come up to the family before feeling so called “threatened”. So it doesn't make sense does it? Either way….you will always take the side of "the friend" as you are closer to him than you were Josh and Josh’s family will always be looking out for Josh’s best interest because he was there child. There is no wrong in either but please don’t come on here and talk about threats, slander and misinformation on "the friend" and then turn around and do the same on Josh who is not here to speak for himself unlike "the friend". Josh was not perfect who is in life…..but he didn't deserve nor does anyone in life deserve to die so young. You get to spend every day with you friend but Josh’s family must learn to life without him. So you did the right thing by taking off your post as they came across as disrespect to the family and to Josh. If "the friend" wanted to talk to the family and get his side out to the family he could have many times and selected not to and he could have always asked to talk with them in front of the Detective…neither were ever attempted. So as you stand by "the friend" all Josh’s friends and family will stand for him and get to the bottom of the story no matter what the outcome ends up being. You, "the friend" and all your friends can believe Josh was not killed but the family and friends of Josh has every right to think he was murdered. So please stop trying to make this about "the friend" he is still alive and has the rest of his life....this is about Josh who is dead because someone didn't help him, care enough to follow him, or just wasn't that good of a friend to care what happens to someone when they leave acting "freaked out" according to "the friend". By the way I hope he didn't mind you saying his name on here....we have asked everyone when talking not to mention a name but since you did I guess he doesn't matter.

I think some of the posts were from "the friend" because the writing style is the same as some of the posts I've seen from him elsewhere. I do, though, question the person who claims to be a friend of "the friend" since the name is not spelled the same way as "the friend" has spelled it in numerous other places.

@ Anonymous January 23rd: Agreed and I think the "friend" has just struck again. (Better read his reply above while you can because he has a habit of deleting comments and then modifying the contents so to repost them again. Fascinating case study, that one is. Guilty conscience, for certain.)

JOSH SWALLS UPDATE: Concerning drugs and alcohol contributing to his *drowning* death--none whatsoever in Swalls' system, per his final toxicology findings.

As to death by "Excited Delirium" (hinted at by the same "friend" in a post he promptly deleted weeks ago): This is a fictitious medical syndrome invented of late by cops and coroners to justify and explain away the rising number of people dying in police custody.

No medical board or organization anywhere in the world recognizes Excited Delirium as a legitimate medical condition, nor a probable cause of death either.

Groups like Amnesty International are concerned about the trend of coroners dismissing deaths due to police brutality and tasering as Excited Delirium, and have therefore flagged this as a major human rights issue. One that's especially prevalent in the United States.

Many thanks for visiting today and taking the time to post your feedback--E.R.

We have spoke with the girl Josh went out with. This date was prior to his going to the friends. She picked him up and dropped him off. They had been texting up to 1:07 AM. If he had his phone at this time he would have responded to the message for a 22 year old. In addition, she had sent him a message first thing Sunday telling him Good Morning.

I was unaware of any other messages left but as E.R. stated they post and delete them. But we did have a good meeting with the Coroner.

The police never followed up on who Walton was meeting. We gave them the website his screen name. Nothing was ever done. They kept saying they needed to wait 30 days before the website would work with them. They never even contacted the website or made any effort to find this girl. I think this is a link that should have been investigated. Once the coroner said it was a drowning they were done. The last person to see Walton alive was never interviewed either. They just washed their hands of my son and checked the box DROWN. And IMPD was done! I wonder if it was one of their sons how they would feel. Would they be happy with this investigation if it was their own son?? No of course not, they would turn heaven and earth over if it was one of their own. There is not any justice anymore....it is all about who you are, and how much money you have, and who you know! I no longer believe in our justice system or the police. I cannot respect an organization run like the IMPD.

I am here, Julie, and have not given up on your cause. Neither should you, because there is no statute of limitations whatsoever on murder. There is only a limit on what one can bear in pursuit of justice.

I would stay focused and not lose heart yet--have you asked the bar where Matt was physically removed from for the name of the bouncer or bouncers? If you can get that info, i would then discreetly or even anonymously telephone the IMPD and ask to speak with officer ________ (put in that blank the name you were given) and if they then in one way or another affirm he's their guy...go over their heads to a federal authority.

It's not a girl or a boogieman that killed your son. It's a pathetic coward with a serious anger management issue for which he must now be arrested, tried and sent to prison. That will prevent him from breaking another parent's heart again, and send a stern message to others of his worthless ilk to tow the line and curb the use of excessive force.

This creep didn't "leave town" either, else he wouldn't be able to report for duty again and receive that big fat paycheck he doesn't deserve. Yes, he probably no longer dares to show up for work at the pub in question again, but he was only moonlighting there anyway. Plus your son put him to shame in kicking his ass while everyone was watching, which is why he and his crew killed the boy.

This is what I truly believe the evidence shows, what really happened to Matt and to many more fine young men just like him.

I also know that you can see this terrible ordeal through to the end, and for that quest you have genuine support.

On that note, I hear Team Gannon also has concluded your son didn't drown and believes that he was murdered. This is encouraging news and yet another step closer to nailing the perp/s.

Trust me, the sociopaths who do these grievous acts are shaken now by all the attention to their victims lately--the microscopic attention to the details of each case that shows a clear trail leading back to them.

You, me, online sleuths, readers, questioners...all of us are achieving that together. Making it harder and harder for these suspicous disappearances and bogus drownings to occur by keeping this matter high on the public's radar.

Nobody deserves to die for just going out and having fun, whether they're drunk or sober. The law, the real Law, is on our side in this, so let's just keep at it until the killing ends.

I read these interviews around the time that they first posted and just stumbled back on them as I was curious about the cases. I am facebook friends with both Shannon Swalls and Julie Kvinge and had just been curious since today was Memorial Day and the Swalls visited Josh's grave today.

I have to say I am super bummed to see that someone that sounds pretty guilty from all the other comments deleted their posts.

I am even more so bummed that IMPD STILL seems to have nothing to say. Their oath as police officers is to protect, serve and seek justice. What is going on. My father is a detective in Carmel, IN and I know that he would do his job the best that he could do if this happened in Carmel and it was his assignment.

I still look forward for justice for Josh and Matt.

AND I am also posting Anonymous since I posted my dad was a Carmel detective for my family's safety since it is apparent criminals post comments here. :)

It is a shame how IMPS handles cases today. They are a corrupt police force that needs guidance and Ballard is nor the one. Josh's death has been changed to undetermined after further test. But that changes nothing for IMPD.

IMPD IS awful. I had to get onto them about the way they was "NOT" investigating the almost 3 year old missing case on Sandra House. Hi E.R. been a very long time. With the move to Indiana its been crazy times but we finally have things situated. I have some other info. I have collected for you throughout the last few months. How do I contact you I cannot recall. Thanks.

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