generallyso:Laws do not apply to the wealthy and their servants in the law enforcement industry; laws are for the little people.

It's always been that way, there is no justice system. There is a legal market, where you can buy all the justice you want. As a Montrealer, I can verify this. If, as an "owner", you somehow manage to underpay one of the many taxes the city wants to steal from you, the city can take everything you "own". If, however, you work for the city for twenty years and steal untold millions in the course of your career, you will get immunity when you testify and the city will pay for your lawyers.

JerkyMeat:This situation is what modern America is.The rich and powerful live by one set of rules, then there is the rest of us.

I have no respect for judges. I won't even defend them like I will cops. Very few of them are honorable and uphold their office so that justice is served.

Judges have always been corrupt - rich or not. The amount of insanity someone on the bench can get away with is insane. No one who works in a court system - especially in a small town like where I grew up - wants to go against the local judges, because they will never win a case in that court again. In addition, contempt can be incredibly abused and literally put someone in jail an indefinite period of time.

BronyMedic:I have no respect for judges. I won't even defend them like I will cops. Very few of them are honorable and uphold their office so that justice is served.

Judges have always been corrupt - rich or not. The amount of insanity someone on the bench can get away with is insane. No one who works in a court system - especially in a small town like where I grew up - wants to go against the local judges, because they will never win a case in that court again. In addition, contempt can be incredibly abused and literally put someone in jail an indefinite period of time.

I dunno... judges can certainly be petty and arrogant, but they can't torture and shoot random individuals and get away with it like cops can. On a philosophical level, you're right. The moral offense of a judge miscarrying justice is greater than it is for a police officer, because a judge is supposed to be chosen to embody the height of fairness, wisdom, and temperance.

On the other hand, if you gave me a one-use magic wand that could dispel abuse of authority from a group of people, I would wave it at the cops first, second, and third. Judges wouldn't even make the short list of where I'd consider pointing the thing.

"If "safety" were truly at issue - if all these technical foul infractions were in fact dangerous - then offenders would be dealt with - quite appropriately - criminally. The system does not ticket people who brandish firearms - and then send them on their way with their weapon, on the brandisher's promise never to brandish again. Yet the system - as a matter of routine - issues millions of tickets every single day to allegedly dangerous drivers who are in possession of an implement potentially as or more lethal than a firearm - and is happy to let them continue driving, so long as they keep on paying.

It is only failure to pay that results in them deciding you must be prevented from driving. Note that even DWI offenders almost always have their driving "privileges" restored - provided they pay the fines and pay to attend the ASAP classes and pay the insurance mafia what it demands.

"If "safety" were truly at issue - if all these technical foul infractions were in fact dangerous - then offenders would be dealt with - quite appropriately - criminally. The system does not ticket people who brandish firearms - and then send them on their way with their weapon, on the brandisher's promise never to brandish again. Yet the system - as a matter of routine - issues millions of tickets every single day to allegedly dangerous drivers who are in possession of an implement potentially as or more lethal than a firearm - and is happy to let them continue driving, so long as they keep on paying.

It is only failure to pay that results in them deciding you must be prevented from driving. Note that even DWI offenders almost always have their driving "privileges" restored - provided they pay the fines and pay to attend the ASAP classes and pay the insurance mafia what it demands.

So long as you pay, you are a-ok.

It is - and always has been - all about the money."

Yeah, because owning a gun is as important as being abled to drive a car.Oh and cars are 100% build to kill stuff.

I saw another type on a car in AZ a few years ago, when they still had their cameras in place, it must have been polarized, because from relatively straight on, the license plate was fine, but from an angle, it disappeared. It's how I knew that the whole Muthbusters episode where they 'Busted' them was yet another shoddy example of the scientific method. Using Redflex(the traffic camera company) to do their "testing" was the first red flag, but in the tests, they set the cameras up at about the height of the license plate so that it would of course work perfectly. The show turned into a joke long ago, but that one cemented it for me, since I had seen one of those work not long before.

"If "safety" were truly at issue - if all these technical foul infractions were in fact dangerous - then offenders would be dealt with - quite appropriately - criminally. The system does not ticket people who brandish firearms - and then send them on their way with their weapon, on the brandisher's promise never to brandish again. Yet the system - as a matter of routine - issues millions of tickets every single day to allegedly dangerous drivers who are in possession of an implement potentially as or more lethal than a firearm - and is happy to let them continue driving, so long as they keep on paying.

It is only failure to pay that results in them deciding you must be prevented from driving. Note that even DWI offenders almost always have their driving "privileges" restored - provided they pay the fines and pay to attend the ASAP classes and pay the insurance mafia what it demands.

So long as you pay, you are a-ok.

It is - and always has been - all about the money."

Yeah, because owning a gun is as important as being abled to drive a car.Oh and cars are 100% build to kill stuff.

You kinda missed the point there. Think it over and get back to us. He was just using guns as a quick example.

Oh, and he's 100% correct about it not being a 'safety' thing, there are a ton of examples out there.

The state violation, 47:507, states that all license plates must be "clearly visible, and be maintained free from foreign materials and in a condition to be clearly legible."

What? All this means is it has to be visible to human eyes. There is no codified requirement there for a license plate to be visible to whatever random sensing and external lighting equipment that random municipalities decide to use to scan license plates on any given day.

HotWingAgenda:JeffreyScott: A hitch mounted bike rack that folds up against the back of the vehicle is the legal way to obstruct ticket cameras.

Around here, the camera takes a picture of the front of the vehicle to catch the front plate and the driver's face.

Put a winch in the front over the plate. Or one of those bumper protector things that looks like a small crowd barricade. Or, hell, another bike rack, attached to the front. Bike racks! Bike racks everywhere!

Z-clipped:BronyMedic: I have no respect for judges. I won't even defend them like I will cops. Very few of them are honorable and uphold their office so that justice is served.

Judges have always been corrupt - rich or not. The amount of insanity someone on the bench can get away with is insane. No one who works in a court system - especially in a small town like where I grew up - wants to go against the local judges, because they will never win a case in that court again. In addition, contempt can be incredibly abused and literally put someone in jail an indefinite period of time.

I dunno... judges can certainly be petty and arrogant, but they can't torture and shoot random individuals and get away with it like cops can. On a philosophical level, you're right. The moral offense of a judge miscarrying justice is greater than it is for a police officer, because a judge is supposed to be chosen to embody the height of fairness, wisdom, and temperance.

On the other hand, if you gave me a one-use magic wand that could dispel abuse of authority from a group of people, I would wave it at the cops first, second, and third. Judges wouldn't even make the short list of where I'd consider pointing the thing.

Most of cops where I live have gold shields displayed in the windshield of their private cars, including the cars operated by wives, girlfriends, kids, etc. Their private cars typically have blacke- out side glass...illegal around here....covered or missing plates, and no inspection stickers. I'm guessing that a lot of these cars are not registered or insured.

Emposter:HotWingAgenda: JeffreyScott: A hitch mounted bike rack that folds up against the back of the vehicle is the legal way to obstruct ticket cameras.

Around here, the camera takes a picture of the front of the vehicle to catch the front plate and the driver's face.

Put a winch in the front over the plate. Or one of those bumper protector things that looks like a small crowd barricade. Or, hell, another bike rack, attached to the front. Bike racks! Bike racks everywhere!

Or you live in a State that does not require front plate... .like Louisiana.

nytmare:The state violation, 47:507, states that all license plates must be "clearly visible, and be maintained free from foreign materials and in a condition to be clearly legible."

What? All this means is it has to be visible to human eyes. There is no codified requirement there for a license plate to be visible to whatever random sensing and external lighting equipment that random municipalities decide to use to scan license plates on any given day.

Here is how laws work in the US. First the legislature makes a law that is very poorly worded (this is generally intentional btw). Then the judiciary interprets and applies that law. So in other words, it doesn't matter what the law says, all that matters is what the courts decide it means.

Because Mythbusters would never tell the entire public that getting a certain kind of license plate obscures it from a flash, thereby jumping sales up %1 million percent.

They do work. And they're used every day. Trick (flip) plates, the special cover, MERTs (which are now illegal) that can change the light to green that medical personnel use. They all work. But nobody is going to tell you they DO work, because that is contradictory to what they're trying to establish...that the man can't be defeated. Just move along, citizen.

Because Mythbusters would never tell the entire public that getting a certain kind of license plate obscures it from a flash, thereby jumping sales up %1 million percent.

They do work. And they're used every day. Trick (flip) plates, the special cover, MERTs (which are now illegal) that can change the light to green that medical personnel use. They all work. But nobody is going to tell you they DO work, because that is contradictory to what they're trying to establish...that the man can't be defeated. Just move along, citizen.

I'm still tempted to build a license plate frame consisting of a lot of high intensity IR LEDs... Invisible to the naked eye, but to most CCD cameras, all you will see is a bright splotch of light. I highly doubt that the cameras used in the red light/speed cameras are the higher quality CCDs that filter IR sources out. That would cut into the profits.

Because Mythbusters would never tell the entire public that getting a certain kind of license plate obscures it from a flash, thereby jumping sales up %1 million percent.

They do work. And they're used every day. Trick (flip) plates, the special cover, MERTs (which are now illegal) that can change the light to green that medical personnel use. They all work. But nobody is going to tell you they DO work, because that is contradictory to what they're trying to establish...that the man can't be defeated. Just move along, citizen.

Uh, "MERTS" (if that's what they are called) don't change the light to green, they turn all 4 directions red. Why would an emergency vehicle need a green light?