There's nothing stopping them from flying over twice... other than the literal boatload of cash required to pay for flights from Australia to NA :(.

Eh. I don't know about you guys, but I'd MUCH rather see them play a full 90 minute set at a show in my town than a 45, maybe 60 minute set on the boat where the acoustics aren't guaranteed to be as good. And for those not in the US or Canada, hopefully they'll tour your area soon.

Phoenix wrote:Eh. I don't know about you guys, but I'd MUCH rather see them play a full 90 minute set at a show in my town than a 45, maybe 60 minute set on the boat where the acoustics aren't guaranteed to be as good. And for those not in the US or Canada, hopefully they'll tour your area soon.

I completely agree with you, but I was hoping to catch them onbroad; I really doubt I'll get to see them here in Costa Rica haha

There's nothing stopping them from flying over twice... other than the literal boatload of cash required to pay for flights from Australia to NA :(.

Eh. I don't know about you guys, but I'd MUCH rather see them play a full 90 minute set at a show in my town than a 45, maybe 60 minute set on the boat where the acoustics aren't guaranteed to be as good. And for those not in the US or Canada, hopefully they'll tour your area soon.

captaingabbeh wrote:Eh. I don't know about you guys, but I'd MUCH rather see them play a full 90 minute set at a show in my town than a 45, maybe 60 minute set on the boat where the acoustics aren't guaranteed to be as good. And for those not in the US or Canada, hopefully they'll tour your area soon.

Or, y'know, maybe both. 70K and on the tour.

Yeah - both. I mean, if you like the band enough and catch both their 70K sets, and they vary their setlist, you're going to catch almost a full 90-minute show's worth anyway. Plus the whole added boat bonus of (a) being able to get front-row/extremely close no matter what, and (b) having the opportunity to meet the band and have a beer with them. Personally, for those reasons, I think I'd rather a band on the boat than catch them on tour. But in the case of NeO, I'll go with both tour and boat.

...and somehow they aren't playing a Toronto date, so I'm going to drive to Ottawa or Montreal to catch them. We're spoiled here in the GTA so I'm not going to complain.

2 pm Irma National Hurricane Center "The combination of a life-threatening storm surge and large breakingwaves will raise water levels ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS by thefollowing amounts within the hurricane warning area near and to thenorth of the center of Irma. Near the coast, the surge will beaccompanied by large and destructive waves.

Turks and Caicos Islands...15 to 20 ftSoutheastern and central Bahamas...15 to 20 ftNorthwestern Bahamas...5 to 10 ftNorthern coast of the Dominican Republic...3 to 5 ftNorthern coast of Haiti and the Gulf of Gonave...1 to 3 ftNorthern coast of Cuba in the warning area...5 to 10 ft"In about 5 hours you are going to need a new port.

deathmetalpat wrote:2 pm Irma National Hurricane Center "The combination of a life-threatening storm surge and large breakingwaves will raise water levels ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS by thefollowing amounts within the hurricane warning area near and to thenorth of the center of Irma. Near the coast, the surge will beaccompanied by large and destructive waves.

Turks and Caicos Islands...15 to 20 ftSoutheastern and central Bahamas...15 to 20 ftNorthwestern Bahamas...5 to 10 ftNorthern coast of the Dominican Republic...3 to 5 ftNorthern coast of Haiti and the Gulf of Gonave...1 to 3 ftNorthern coast of Cuba in the warning area...5 to 10 ft"In about 5 hours you are going to need a new port.

It will be interesting to see how much effect Irma has on 70k plans. My impression after 3 cruises is that RC maintains a lot of the port infrastructure that the boat docks at. I could be totally wrong but I'd imagine that even if the port takes heavy damage, it will probably be rebuilt much faster than the surrounding area, possibly even fast enough that the boat can stop as scheduled.

deathmetalpat wrote:2 pm Irma National Hurricane Center "The combination of a life-threatening storm surge and large breakingwaves will raise water levels ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS by thefollowing amounts within the hurricane warning area near and to thenorth of the center of Irma. Near the coast, the surge will beaccompanied by large and destructive waves.

Turks and Caicos Islands...15 to 20 ftSoutheastern and central Bahamas...15 to 20 ftNorthwestern Bahamas...5 to 10 ftNorthern coast of the Dominican Republic...3 to 5 ftNorthern coast of Haiti and the Gulf of Gonave...1 to 3 ftNorthern coast of Cuba in the warning area...5 to 10 ft"In about 5 hours you are going to need a new port.

It will be interesting to see how much effect Irma has on 70k plans. My impression after 3 cruises is that RC maintains a lot of the port infrastructure that the boat docks at. I could be totally wrong but I'd imagine that even if the port takes heavy damage, it will probably be rebuilt much faster than the surrounding area, possibly even fast enough that the boat can stop as scheduled.

So it appears that the hurricane went a bit south but hard to tell if enough.That pier would need to survive and they had to build that to survive a hit like this.If that is destroyed,no way to fix quickly.The weather station went out ,can't get storm surge data.

deathmetalpat wrote:2 pm Irma National Hurricane Center "The combination of a life-threatening storm surge and large breakingwaves will raise water levels ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS by thefollowing amounts within the hurricane warning area near and to thenorth of the center of Irma. Near the coast, the surge will beaccompanied by large and destructive waves.

Turks and Caicos Islands...15 to 20 ftSoutheastern and central Bahamas...15 to 20 ftNorthwestern Bahamas...5 to 10 ftNorthern coast of the Dominican Republic...3 to 5 ftNorthern coast of Haiti and the Gulf of Gonave...1 to 3 ftNorthern coast of Cuba in the warning area...5 to 10 ft"In about 5 hours you are going to need a new port.

It will be interesting to see how much effect Irma has on 70k plans. My impression after 3 cruises is that RC maintains a lot of the port infrastructure that the boat docks at. I could be totally wrong but I'd imagine that even if the port takes heavy damage, it will probably be rebuilt much faster than the surrounding area, possibly even fast enough that the boat can stop as scheduled.

So it appears that the hurricane went a bit south but hard to tell if enough.That pier would need to survive and they had to build that to survive a hit like this.If that is destroyed,no way to fix quickly.The weather station went out ,can't get storm surge data.

Damn. Well, if the latest forecasts are accurate, the fate of Port Everglades and the Clevelander might be a concern as well...

Little bit of hype going on with Irma now,mainly because a Cat. 3 Hurricane or stronger hasn't hit Florida since 2005.This is the longest stretch in the last 100 years and Florida probably has millions of people who never experienced a hurricane.It looks like it will hit the actual Everglades,nobody lives there and hurricanes die there.

deathmetalpat wrote:Little bit of hype going on with Irma now,mainly because a Cat. 3 Hurricane or stronger hasn't hit Florida since 2005.This is the longest stretch in the last 100 years and Florida probably has millions of people who never experienced a hurricane.It looks like it will hit the actual Everglades,nobody lives there and hurricanes die there.

My dude, I hope you're right. A really good friend of mine lives in Tampa. I'm sure he'll be fine but at the same time I'm worried for him and everyone else.

deathmetalpat wrote:Little bit of hype going on with Irma now,mainly because a Cat. 3 Hurricane or stronger hasn't hit Florida since 2005.This is the longest stretch in the last 100 years and Florida probably has millions of people who never experienced a hurricane.It looks like it will hit the actual Everglades,nobody lives there and hurricanes die there.

My dude, I hope you're right. A really good friend of mine lives in Tampa. I'm sure he'll be fine but at the same time I'm worried for him and everyone else.

Well Miami looks safe now and it hit Cuba to weaken it but from Marco Island to Clearwater is in the bullseye.Biggest problem is water being pushed into the bays and fact no hurricane has hit there in 12 years.Like having a car in a garage for 12 years then going to a drag race ,something is going to break.

captaingabbeh wrote:It will be interesting to see how much effect Irma has on 70k plans. My impression after 3 cruises is that RC maintains a lot of the port infrastructure that the boat docks at. I could be totally wrong but I'd imagine that even if the port takes heavy damage, it will probably be rebuilt much faster than the surrounding area, possibly even fast enough that the boat can stop as scheduled.

Carnival PLC built the port at Grand Turk and would be largely responsible for rebuilding it, not Royal Caribbean. Both cruise lines have scheduled port visits in the Caribbean to provide humanitarian aid and some ships are hovering out of the storm's way waiting to return.

Last I heard regarding Grand Turk was that there was considerable structural damage but, thankfully, no loss of life.

captaingabbeh wrote:It will be interesting to see how much effect Irma has on 70k plans. My impression after 3 cruises is that RC maintains a lot of the port infrastructure that the boat docks at. I could be totally wrong but I'd imagine that even if the port takes heavy damage, it will probably be rebuilt much faster than the surrounding area, possibly even fast enough that the boat can stop as scheduled.

Carnival PLC built the port at Grand Turk and would be largely responsible for rebuilding it, not Royal Caribbean. Both cruise lines have scheduled port visits in the Caribbean to provide humanitarian aid and some ships are hovering out of the storm's way waiting to return.

Last I heard regarding Grand Turk was that there was considerable structural damage but, thankfully, no loss of life.

It should be up and running at some level but this is like asking a pimp if his prostitute is clean right now ,more bullshit in the travel industry than any other industry .End of the story represents reality more "It isn’t clear when cruise ships could resume calls to Grand Turk but we expect it will be a while yet. The island needs to get back on its feet and restore services. There have been wide spread power outages, damaged buildings and more. Carnival is delivering much-needed supplies to the popular cruise destination"

It should be up and running at some level but this is like asking a pimp if his prostitute is clean right now ,more bullshit in the travel industry than any other industry .End of the story represents reality more "It isn’t clear when cruise ships could resume calls to Grand Turk but we expect it will be a while yet. The island needs to get back on its feet and restore services. There have been wide spread power outages, damaged buildings and more. Carnival is delivering much-needed supplies to the popular cruise destination"

The cruise is four months away... if they can get a ship in there it would seem odd if they can't resume calls by then.

deathmetalpat wrote:It should be up and running at some level but this is like asking a pimp if his prostitute is clean right now ,more bullshit in the travel industry than any other industry .End of the story represents reality more "It isn’t clear when cruise ships could resume calls to Grand Turk but we expect it will be a while yet. The island needs to get back on its feet and restore services. There have been wide spread power outages, damaged buildings and more. Carnival is delivering much-needed supplies to the popular cruise destination"

The cruise is four months away... if they can get a ship in there it would seem odd if they can't resume calls by then.

According to posts on Cruise Critic, Carnival will resume port-visits to Grand Turk within a few weeks. I understand that the structures near the pier sustained minimal damage -- they are largely reinforced concrete -- but places like Jack's Shack have sustained significant damage. Hope they can rebuild quickly; I really like those people. Assuming we make it there in February, it will be my fifth time at Grand Turk.

The island heavily depends on cruise revenue -- its population is only about 4,500, so when a cruise ship docks the population effectively doubles -- so getting cruise operations restored is a HUGE priority.

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