I have noticed now that you consistantly bring the rest of the wargods linkshell into your little feud, I dont understand why all the hating on all the wargod members some which have no clue who you are, now we understand urself and hawk do not like each other, but my question is why consistantly bring people you dont know into this? im sure you answer will be " you guys suck" or "go f@ck your mothers" something intelligent along those lines, but come on now realy why? and as for your last post wow man i cant belive you are a leader of a ls saying that foul stuff, i sure hope your not over the age of 13 because i can't imagine anyone older saying that stuff or thinking in that mentality. This is the second time now you have brought the whole linkshell into your 4yr old name calling, when will you be done ridiculing people you do not even know or played with before?

sgthill i was asking you a simple question and you choose not to answer me, therefore anything you say after this point means nothing and you should not make fun of others for no reason, i hope you have learned to think before you type from now on, and relize what you are saying.

I don't usually join the crap drama but since I got called names ingame for no reason I got a few things to say on what has been said.

To start with pauly question one could return it to you asking why some WG members commits the exact same sin, like kazkau here or Jememy here

Now for some issues :

- HC is just like was KI or any other shell, some people attend all events, some sits in mog house, some are skilled, some aren't. KI had their problems, HC got their own, and WG will get theirs eventually, it's bound to happen in every LS. But yeah you're right, there was some bad apples in KI taking what they need and not helping others, I remember walking some people through Ru'Hmet mission, aggroing every single mob possible or swinging at them with a warp cludgel (hey, why do a 1 hour mission when you can make it take 3). Eventually made it for them to declines helping on jailers or limbus. I mean we don't expect anything, but if you don't want to return a favor for hatever reason don't take it in the first place. Oh wait, thoses people are now in WG calling names on thoses who helped them in the past for no reason (zomg, "igeman" got a togi, must buy teh gilz !!) or calling other leeches.

- As of yet DFA doesn't have any order for W.legs, maybe issues could be solved if people voice up into the LS instead of whining to another LS, don't you think ? I don't remember anyone voicing up this day. Anyway in any case I fully support giving #1 priority on items to people with sea. We started there and need equipments in sea, not sitting in a mog house because someone still don't want to have have access to a zone released 10 months ago. Also remember things like Ptown who had lot priority on snowy cermet in Apollyon for the fact he had the coins to upgrade, despite having less seniority than other PLDs. So much for greed, but I guess we should have kept the freelot rule, and P still wouldn't have his body +1 (no other cermet since then).

- As far as dynamis in RH goes, I also despite selecting dynamis zones but the only to blame is the leader setting the rules, not the ones playing by them. Make points, don't tell which zone we do... there are many solutions to this. Dynamis pulling is only as good as the map you dig out of the net. Here's one Xarcabard. Congrats, now anyone can pull in Xarcarbard. Why do things if it's to brag about it later ? Dynamis is about the group, not *I* did this, or *I* did that. I passed trick to get a free time statue in Beaucedine you don't hear me brag about that. RH is good but still fail at basic things like poison potions in xarcabard or starting at a set time and not holding 40+ people for 30 minutes because someone choose to not attend at set time and instead gone to a BCNM run. But as I said the leader allowing this is to blame, not the people exploiting the flaws of the system. To top all that RH as far as I know isn't the property of any LS, so this matter has no place here.

To the original topic, LS are born and die as people cames and go, or seek other objectives. It's a cycle no one can do something about.

If your intention to help my static get sea was so that we would help you in your little events we never would've taken your help. It's pretty selfish for you to do a favor expecting us to return it in hours of service in a zone most of us don't care for. Maybe next time you do something like that you should clarify that you'll use the favor against them. As far as all the ptown bs, he was part of your little thing, none of us were, so the way you treated him has nothing to do with my shell.

Second, I'm not bragging that I pulled the zone, I was saying to Sgthill he can thank me for it later seeing as he thinks I was there for whatever reason I don't know... also the fact that he said to me in an ingame /tell that I can thank him for my osode. So I was just returning the favor as you'd say.

As far as Kazkau and Jememy having problems with your LS. There is a big difference between just members of a linkshell and its leader voicing out their opinions. Jem and Kaz speak for themselves, most of us don't have any problems with anyone in HC except SgtHill or the way the RH shell works. When you're leader of a shell you represent it, and having Sgthill as your leader doesn't give HC very good credibility with the way he handles situations.

Anyway, thanks for warning the people who view these forums of what a favor from you means, glad more people will know that a favor from you is more like getting into debt!

I was making an analogy to Derrek post, and like I said we don't expected anything from helping. I just feel returning a favor is something you do when someone spend time to help you, but it could be cultural differences, it's just about politeness here. But whatever I'm not *angry* about that, just been disapointed. Also please take not we never put back to you the fact we helped when we asked if you wanted to join a sea run / limbus. We asked if you wanted to, not "hey we helped, now come here"

I now remember Jememy coming once to limbus tho to be honest.

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As far as all the ptown bs, he was part of your little thing, none of us were, so the way you treated him has nothing to do with my shell.

Was answering to greed call, never meant it has anything to do, did I ? Don't really see the point here. But you're right, a LS loot rules only concern LS members, not outside people, so why make comments ?

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also the fact that he said to me in an ingame /tell that I can thank him for my osode

Sounds clearer now.

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As far as Kazkau and Jememy having problems with your LS. There is a big difference between just members of a linkshell and its leader voicing out their opinions.

Well I guess SGT can also voice personal opinions, after all you also started the HC/sgthill flames in this thread, despite being leader of your own. Anyway you also reflect the LS when you're "only" a member.

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Anyway, thanks for warning the people who view these forums of what a favor from you means, glad more people will know that a favor from you is more like getting into debt!

Or put the other way around I'll always try to return help when I get some... =)

I would've returned the favor if it was something I was willing to do, I don't have much of an interest in sea right now so I'm not willing to do that. But I guess your being polite in telling me how and when I should return a favor... come to think of it, I consider that to be pretty rude, not polite, but I guess that's just cultural differences.

This flame between me and Sgt didn't start on these forums, it started with in game /tells he started with me... if he can tell the truth about something ask him. That's why I got suspended from the game, by using profanity arguing back to him in /tells that HE started. So don't tell me I started anything, get all the information straight before you start throwing around accusations please.

Oh, I consider my contributions to the Dynamis shell over and above your little favor to me. Not even 1/4 of my shell goes to RH so most of my help is going to your LS, I don't care for any AF drops and I take enough xp loss to call it square on your little favor.

Damnit, triple post.. but what can you do. I just picked up on that you said when you asked me to go to limbus /sea you didn't use that fact you helped against me, that's a lie or you didn't know, one or the other. Sgthill and Danius both tried telling me to go to limbus with you guys because you helped me with that mission, pauly and Tanatus can vouch for that if they don't own up to it on their own... so you guys did say "hey we helped, now come here"

HPman, why are you even posting dude, you dont' have ANY of your facts straight about stuff that members of your own LS were saying. So before you try and come up on these boards all trying to act like we're bashing and we're greedy and we took and ran, get more information that way you don't make yourself look like such an *** :/

hpman you answered a question with a question. i congradulate you on digging up a old post to find "sins"on ALA i know i wouldnt have spent the time to drag another post into this one but gj anyways, i am asking your leader why he must make fun of people he doesnt even know? and for the record you leader sgthill sent me tell out of know where saying something along the lines of what ever i cant belive you dont want come to limbus after we helped you and this is how you repay us, and other rude remarkes, not once did he ask do you want to come to limbus. please dont make excuses for your leader im sure hes a big boy and will answer the question sometime hopefully.

From the way I see it, KoruptionInc was dead the minute Sponge quit, TheWarGods, for whatever reasons they may have, instead of whining and crying about it, did something about it. From the looks of it here, each linkshell is now judging the other by just a few members they have issues with, assuming the entire linkshell is exactly the same, creating some sort of big, hairy, fiery ball of hatred. Grow up people, this is a server with thousands of diverse people, just because you don't like someone it doesn't mean you should hate their linkshell too. I believe thats something you should have learned in... what? Second grade, right?

Yo..have absolutely no affiliation with all of you.. but just thought someone might like an outsiders opinion. This horse is bashed so hard that it is no longer solid in any way shape or form.. stop, relax, and step away from the computer. You all have obviously not had a real life in quite awhile if these inflammatory posts affect you. Just blacklist them, stop looking at this thread, whatever. Go kill something ingame, go to the shooting range, go get laid, go eat a lot of icecream, i don't know. Just stop ...

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Please note, I'm not detracting your skills as a warrior. I've just found through experience that neglecting your Great axe and Axe skills is like throwing a cow to parahnas. Eventually, you'll miss that cow, but getting it back is gonna be **** bloody.