>>117349He even set up cameras, what the fuck? Did he use wireless ones.
>Public records do not show any criminal convictions for Paddock in Nevada. Fox News reports that Paddock “was known” to Las Vegas Police. Undersheriff McMahill told CNN that he had no major “derogatory” criminal record other than a minor traffic citation in Las Vegas. Mesquite Police told CBS News that he had no run-ins with him. They said he lived in a retirement community, called Sun City and wasn’t a military veteran.

Fuuuuuuuuuck. I was going to start building an AR next month now that prices seemed to finally start going down slightly. A nice kinda 90s era M4ish classic build with only a flat top upper as a modern bit.

Oh and sucks for the victims.

Seriously though, this sucks for everyone except massacre whores who will profit off this on both sides. Sounds like this was some rich fuck with two private planes and loads of auto weapons so sit might get hairy for class 3 weapon owners.

>>117346>and there goes any pro second amendment legislation that was upcoming...
don't fool yourself, none was upcoming either way, they decided to prioritize doing favor for insurance tycoons and now they're onto tax cuts for the general tycoon population. if anything shut the door it was congressmen being shot, not this.

From what I can tell, I would agree with bump-fire stock, probably AR-15 (or another similar intermediate rifle or carbine) and I suspect he had a couple beta-C mags from what I can hear/count. Maybe 80 round caskets though, hard to tell with the echo.

>>117369Well, even if he's white there still is the part of ISIS claiming responsibility for the attack and him being a muslim convert apparently which sounds really bullshit but not completely impossible.
Also, how many old rich white dudes have suddenly gone postal?
I'm not very familiar with US massacre history but I can't really remember any from the top of my head. A muslim sandnigger doing this would make way more sense so as funny as
>reddit's
attitude is it's not necessarily unreasonable or hypocritical.

>>117373I know as much as you do, this is just speculation on my part. I personally doubt it's a .308 Win, as the sound from the large building could magnify the noise. It could be an RPK with a crank trigger; until we see some actual pictures or some non-news media reports on what the guns were, I doubt we'll be able to find out exactly what weapons he used.

>>117390I'll admit it does smell a bit rotten. Lets look at the facts shall we.

It happened in a state with very loose guns laws.
It was committed by a wealthy white man.
He used assault weapons, possibly NFA Class 3 ones, with extended clipazines.
His target was a country music festival which generally is attended by conservative leaning and therefore anti-gun control people.
Done at a loud concert thus raising concerns about silencers, people couldn't hear the shots as well.
His kill count was apparently just over the Pulse nightclub shooting.

I mean you don't even have to be a conspiracy kook to wonder if maybe there was more behind this then some wacko. Everything together seems awfully convenient for certain interests.

>President Donald Trump on Tuesday hinted that he’ll be wading into the debate over new gun control measures, but he said such conversations will likely happen later.

>On his way to Puerto Rico, Trump praised the police response to the attack at a concert in Las Vegas on Sunday in which at least 59 people were killed and and more than 500 injured — the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history. And he said conversations about gun control are forthcoming.

>“What happened in Las Vegas is in many ways a miracle. The police department has done such an incredible job, and we'll be talking about gun laws as time goes by,” Trump told reporters when asked whether the shooting would prompt him to take up new legislation.

>Asked about a pending bill that would loosen restrictions on purchasing gun silencers, Trump said, "We’ll talk about that later.”

>The White House on Monday sidestepped questions about gun control, with press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders saying “today is not that day” for a conversation about any new gun-violence prevention measures. Democratic lawmakers, however, immediately called for new controls, and started pressuring their Republican colleagues.

More details have been emerging about the arsenal that the shooter, Stephen Paddock, had in his room as he massacred concertgoers from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel. Authorities said he had at least 23 firearms in the room, and that they had retrieved an additional 19 firearms, as well as explosives and several thousand rounds of ammunition, from his home in Mesquite, Nevada. Paddock committed suicide before authorities were able to break into his room, officials said.

>Paddock’s motivation is still unclear, but Trump said Tuesday that he was clearly a troubled man.

>“He was a sick man, a demented man. A lot of problems I guess,” Trump said. “And we're looking into him very, very seriously, but we're dealing with a very sick individual.”

>>117379>"whatever he said 10 minutes ago is meaningless, the guy changes his tune more regularly than the average dance band does" I continue to insist as the ATF kicks in my door and shoots me 15 times in the face

>The idea was apparently to be able to have a security perimeter behind him while he fired down on the crowd – another indication of the planning and forethought Paddock put into the attack. Such a setup would have made it easier for Paddock to know when he was close to being captured.

>When police breached his hotel room door and stormed inside, they found him already dead, with blood spread out behind him, mixed in with the empty shell casings on the carpet. He had apparently pointed a silver, black-handled revolver into his mouth and pulled the trigger.

>Before that, police and hotel security had scoured several floors of the hotel looking for the shooter and came upon Paddock’s suite, Lombardo said. At some point, Paddock fired through the door and hit a security guard in the leg, he said, adding that the guard is expected to survive.

>>117409The thing about conspiracies, real conspiracies and not autistic people who can't tell the difference between faces whinging about crisis actors, is that something always leaks and it's always something tangible. The plunge to war in 1914, the Steele dossier, Russia's MH-17 coverup, the Russian apartment bombings, the Mukden Incident, the secret bombing of Laos, all the CIA plots against Castro, the time when the Dutch had the CIA blow up a cargo ship so they could blame Indonesian communists, the East German AIDS hoaxes, the Lavon Affair, the Reichstag fire.

Used to be, if somebody went nuts and blew up a school or shot a bunch of longhorns from a clock tower or whatever, people went "well, they were clearly deranged" instead of acting like it was a conspiracy by the Bavarian Illuminati and the pipe fitter's union because apparently bad things never actually happen to people.

>>117410"i'm pretending to be a retard for laughs" has long since morphed into the much less amusing "i'm pretending to be a retard to to forward my political agenda"
now maybe if someone could tell me how to get green text then i could make this post in a more imageboard appropriate format. embarrassing as it is to admit it after all these years, but i still have not unlocked the mystery of how to greentext. while you're ponding that and reading this post in troy mcclure's voice why don't you check these doubles as well?

>>117417hahaha oh wow is that a stack of 20 high capacity magazines? gosh who would have ever guessed that the availability of high capacity magazines for "semi" automatic weapons could exacerbate the effects of a mass shooting. gosh maybe he might not have even done it at all if had to do it the old fashioned way like charles whitman did. all that trigger pulling and reloading might be a bit too much of a chore for thurston-hui cho howell the third

T>he tanks are roughly 1,100 feet from the concert site, where Paddock killed 58 people and wounded almost 500.

>Within the past couple of days, construction crews repaired and painted the holes, and FBI agents inspected the tanks and took measurements of the line of fire from Mandalay Bay, the source said.

>Paddock, a 64-year-old Mesquite resident, had broken two windows in his 32nd-floor suite — one in line with the concert site and the other with a direct view of the fuel tanks, the source said. The bases of private aircraft operators are close to the tanks.

What could be a more effective protest in favor of gun control than to buy a ton of apparently legal(maybe) guns and proceed to slaughter a massive crowd of people where cameras would be present?

This is like those hipsters and tumblrinas who open carry in order to alarm people and make an ironic statement against the right to do so, but intensified. Everything indicates that Paddock was intelligent and put a lot of planning into this, so why not assume he had some complex intent to cause chains of events after his death?

>"NO NO GUYS TRUMP IS PRO-GUN!" i continue to insist as i sell out my country for a promise of a wall
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/05/politics/trump-bump-stock-ban-gun/index.html>Trump told reporters on Thursday he'd be looking into a proposed ban on "bump stocks" in the near future.
>"We'll be looking into that in the next short period of time," Trump said, when asked about the proposed ban ahead of a dinner with military officers at the White House.

>In its statement, the NRA said, reports from Law Vegas indicate “certain devices” were used to modify the firearms involved.

>“Despite the fact that the Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks on at least two occasions, the National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law,” the powerfully lobbying organization said in its statement.

>“The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations,” the org continued.

>Mr. Cornyn said the continuing legality of the conversion kits was “a legitimate question,” and told reporters he had asked Senator Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, the Judiciary Committee chairman, to convene a hearing on that issue and any others that arise out of the Las Vegas investigation.

>“We certainly want to learn more details on what occurred in Las Vegas,” Mr. Rubio said, “and if there are vulnerabilities in federal law that we should be addressing to prevent such attacks in the future, we would always be open to that.”

>>117441it seems like the story is that hotel security guard checked on the shooters suite, was greeted with a 199 bump salute and then 1%cho an hero'd not realizing he was going to have well over an hour more available for shooting or escape activity before the cowardly police finally got up the balls (and enough armor) to brave the deadly hotel room door.

>>117432Hah, yeah that basically debunks the conspiracy theories in one go.

Also the fuel tanks are right across the street from the terminal for Janet flights to Area 51 and elsewhere so that's a fun coincidence.

>>117442I'd say an hours response time was pretty quick for getting a tac team assembled, to the casino and up 30 some flights of stairs. Also he had a corner suite so if he was still active they would have needed to start knocking down walls to get out of the hallway

LV is crawling with SWAT dude. Assembling a squad would take 15-20 minutes tops.

As far as I can gather the slow down with getting to Paddock is that SWAT first cleared the 4th floor. (you know, the floor with the suspiciously broken windows and the flashes in a lot of vids?)

As for busting through walls? You realize that ballistic shields exist, right?
Las Vegas SWAT has multiple 50BMG sniper rifles, so I'm going to assume they used some of their budget to also buy some heavy ballistic shields.

>>117444I heard they blew out the door with a charge when breaching his room. Why did they bother with that? Couldn't they open it witjh a master key and just flashbang the guy to shit? What's the protocol for that kind of stuff? Seems interesting.

>>117444Though are those shields generally rated against rifle rounds? I recall after they raided the last people from the Paris attack the French police released a photo of their entry team's shield and it had a bunch of holes in it.

>Campos was patrolling the halls of the hotel and was responding to reports of a "door alarm," Clark County Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said.

>Once Campos got to the shooter's floor, he found the stairwells barricaded. As Campos neared the gunman's room, he was shot in the upper right thigh.

>Paddock, who was armed with a cache of firearms and thousands of rounds of ammunition, had "fired through the door, striking Mr. Campos," said David Hickey, the president of the hotel's security-guard union. Police later discovered that Paddock had set up cameras in the hallway to monitor activity outside his room.

>"He notified his dispatch, which was absolutely critical to us, knowing the location, as well as advising the responding officers as they arrived," McMahill said of Campos.

>"I can tell you that this was a remarkable effort by a brave and remarkable man," McMahill continued. "I want to say today that I don't think we've done a good enough job recognizing him and his actions ... He's an absolute hero."

>Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said in a press conference on Wednesday that he saw what looked to be about 200 rounds of bullets fired through the door of Paddock's room. It was "amazing that the security guard didn't sustain additional injury," he said.

>Paddock may have stopped shooting at the crowd near the Las Vegas Strip because Campos approached his room, McMahill said.

>>117450yeah i don't know if all that what we've heard so far i in any way accurate, but the story thats coming together seems like JESUS frightened paddock to death (which is to say that paddock was so crazy paranoid that he panicked and became an hero when he still had an easy shot at escaping or at least carrying on with the infinite ammo barrage). i bet a lot of people at countrypalooza were praying and JESUS answered OMG. i sure hope it doesn't turn out that JESUS is an illegal immigrant, I'd rather JESUS stays in vegas doing 3 shows a night, it'd be like the second coming of elvis.

>WASHINGTON, DC – A senior U.S. general has confirmed that the military has secretly drawn up plans to round up large numbers of privately-owned firearms from American gun owners.

>Gen. James M. Scott of the U.S. Air Force confirmed that the Pentagon received a series of formal directives from the White House between November 7 and December 13 to begin plans for a massive nationwide operation to confiscate guns using a series of federal databases compiled over the last few decades.

>Scott also confirmed that a certain four-star general who heads the U.S. Transportation Command was intimately involved in the planning. General Scott would not reveal the general’s name out of concerns for his safety.

>The plan, known in the military as Operation PREAKNESS, combines a series of tactics developed for house sweeps and room clearing in Iraq and Afghanistan, which Scott admitted had been used as test-runs for the U.S.

>According to Scott, the actual planning for Operation PREAKNESS was initiated in early 2009 and developed in conjunction with the United Nations, Senator Dianne Feinstein, and several other liberal organizations such as the National Organization for Women, Planned Parenthood, Greenpeace, the American Federation of Labor, and the National Rifle Association, which is apparently a front for all the previous groups.

While there was initially some concern about the constitutionality of using the military on American soil, page 2131 of the ObamaCare Act actually amends the Posse Comitatus law to allow the military to disarm private citizens at the direction of the Secretary of Homeland Security. Objections by then-CIA Director David Petraeus were quietly silenced in November.

>A test-run for PREAKNESS was actually conducted in early December in Clinger, Pennsylvania. A joint platoon of Army Rangers and UN Peacekeepers, working with select state and local officials and using imagery collected by the Google Street View Car, quietly went door-to-door and managed to collect all the firearms from Clinger owners.

>The few owners who did complain were initially transported to Fort Leavenworth in Kansas to explain their case before a special international tribunal, before being sent to the National Center For Gun Control in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

>A follow-on operation using just the UN Peacekeepers is planned later this week for any owners missed in the previous sweep, although the Peacekeepers have confirmed they will be using a post office truck to infiltrate the area.

Some grill that reported multiple shooters in her facebook account has also died of supposed seizure recently. I've seen a screenshot of her retelling the story but I dunno if it's legit. The page has apparently been wiped and restored back to 2k16, which is while being weird in and of itself leads one to be skeptical of anything that you can see posted in her name.

>>117485Union probably told him not to talk to anybody. And I wouldn't either, there's no fucking doubt somebody would try to sue him for not breaching the room and killing Paddock himself. Or conspiracy theorists harassing his family.

His weird brother said the guy got rich and lived off gambling in the casinos and played at them as if it was his work. Am I the only one who finds the strange? How the fuck would he keep winning? What about the house always wins and all that crap? Am I missing something about how casinos operate?