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The loss of Schwartz looks devastating on paper, but he didn't look particularly great during the preseason. Still, I'm not ready to panic about how the offense has looked until I've seen them play as one cohesive unit for four full quarters of football. I'm obviously not as high on the Lions as the folks in Vegas are, and I don't see the Giants losing no matter how much their passing game struggles Monday night.

@Lou Musto ..... Then you are an optimist or a homer. Detroit is said to have a shaky defense, but their offense is high octane and will carry their defense. The Giants will have their hands full, especially if they can't score. I would be surprised if the Giants won on the road Monday night, especially considering that their offense was so inept the entire preseason. Scoring over 21 points a game against 2nd and 3rd stringers is a lot different than playing an opponent's starting defensive lineup the entire game. Let's see how they handle that.

@spider43 There probably isn't a better defense out there for the Giants to get rolling against than Detroit's. The pass rush has potential, but their secondary is atrocious. A quick passing approach should open up major opportunities downfield later in the game. I also think the Giants have one of the more underrated defensive units. QB pressure is the concern going into the season and Stafford will be a good first test. If you can pressure him, he wilts and the Lions struggle. Just look at the Giants-Lions game from last season.

Call me an optimist, but I really don't think we got an insightful look at what the Giants offense can truly be this season.

Truth is you just have no way of knowing really what a team is until real games start. Preseason means little. You constantly here people say 'I don't put stock in the preseason'.... Right before they put stock in the preseason. It's basically what everyone has done with the Giants so far. Going into camp the narrative optimistic. It was the Giants were improved, had a great offseason in free agency, had the hot new offensive coordinator to revitalize the offense, a top secondary, JPP will be healthy etc.

And with each passing preseason game the outlook got more negative. I get it though, I would have liked to see more in the preseason, but what all these prognosticators have done is exactly what they say they don't do, and changed their outlook for the Giants based on the preseason.

I recall the Jets having a similar preseason offensively in 2012, not scoring a TD until the final preseason game. They scored over 48 week one.

Whats the deal with Adam Synder? I'm not going to pretend to know anything about him. But on paper he seems like exactly what the Giants need. A veteran, experienced, versatile O-lineman. What are the negatives? Why did the Niners release him?

Obviously Quarles is going to want a 53-man roster spot with some team, and if he can't find one to suit him, the Giants would be stupid if they didn't try to at least bring him back to their practice squad and waive someone else. Personally I wouldn't have kept Nat Berhe or Dallas Reynolds on the 53, but the Gmen felt differently, and that's why they lost him. I'm hoping they can bring Quarles back, even if it's only the practice squad.

@spider43 I agree with you Spider, but when the Giants and Pats let a guy go it's usually a sign to teams that want to be like the Giants or the Pats that the guy is not a winner. Especially poignant that the Pats had him for all of 1 day and then jettisoned him. Belechick one of the best defensive evaluators in the sport doesn't mess around.

Anyways I'd like to see him on the practice squad because it's rare you see a guy with a motor like that and you know there are going to be injuries. (kuhn?)