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On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:49:39 +0100, Bert wrote:
Its sold as a 2M *unlimited* service.

As has been repeated at nauseam for years and years on every forum on the
net - "unlimited"[1] refers to access not data,

NO.

NTL and VM consistantly advertised that users could download as much as
they wanted. That there were no download limits. The sign-up pages stated
this.

This cap is a way for Virgin Media to get their 20 meg service out on the
cheap. VM know that 99% of users will never read or find this "traffic
management" web page but will continue to read all the lies about
"unlimited downloads" at Virgin Media's sign-up page. They (Virgin Media)
know that 99% of users will never notice that their speeds may have
dropped from max to max/2 intentionally where max is what they have
contracted to pay for.

"Dead Paul" wrote in message
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On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:49:39 +0100, Bert wrote:
Its sold as a 2M *unlimited* service.

As has been repeated at nauseam for years and years on every forum on
the
net - "unlimited"[1] refers to access not data,

NO.

NTL and VM consistantly advertised that users could download as much
as
they wanted. That there were no download limits. The sign-up pages
stated
this.

This cap is a way for Virgin Media to get their 20 meg service out on
the
cheap. VM know that 99% of users will never read or find this "traffic
management" web page but will continue to read all the lies about
"unlimited downloads" at Virgin Media's sign-up page. They (Virgin
Media)
know that 99% of users will never notice that their speeds may have
dropped from max to max/2 intentionally where max is what they have
contracted to pay for.

There's a lot of discussion about that in the broadband forums.
You can start from their homepage and click on the links for broadband,
follow them all through, and never find anything about these new
restrictions to the service.
Conclusion: lies, lies, and deceipt.

Forget that this is a big company, let's pretend that it's run by 2
super heroes, Batman and Robin.
They are sellin this product, but are deliberately not tellin anyone who
buys this product and signs a 12 month contract, about this restriction
in place.
It's not something they're thinkin of doin in the future, so no need to
tell anyone.
It's not something that only affects certain areas, so no need to tell
anyone.
It's something that is part of the contract you sign up to, so the
customer shud be able to see it.
It's not, it is intentionally not there to see.

Dead Paul wrote:
On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:49:39 +0100, Bert wrote:
Its sold as a 2M *unlimited* service.

As has been repeated at nauseam for years and years on every forum on the
net - "unlimited"[1] refers to access not data,

NO.

NTL and VM consistantly advertised that users could download as much as
they wanted. That there were no download limits. The sign-up pages stated
this.

This cap is a way for Virgin Media to get their 20 meg service out on the
cheap. VM know that 99% of users will never read or find this "traffic
management" web page but will continue to read all the lies about
"unlimited downloads" at Virgin Media's sign-up page. They (Virgin Media)
know that 99% of users will never notice that their speeds may have
dropped from max to max/2 intentionally where max is what they have
contracted to pay for.

Dead Paul wrote:
On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:49:39 +0100, Bert wrote:
Its sold as a 2M *unlimited* service.

As has been repeated at nauseam for years and years on every forum on
the net - "unlimited"[1] refers to access not data,

NO.

NTL and VM consistantly advertised that users could download as much as
they wanted. That there were no download limits. The sign-up pages
stated this.

This cap is a way for Virgin Media to get their 20 meg service out on
the cheap. VM know that 99% of users will never read or find this
"traffic management" web page but will continue to read all the lies
about "unlimited downloads" at Virgin Media's sign-up page. They (Virgin
Media) know that 99% of users will never notice that their speeds may
have dropped from max to max/2 intentionally where max is what they have
contracted to pay for.