Now that we're approaching barbecue season, we need to be careful, lest a seemingly innocent act should outrage the Almighty. I am talking, of course, about eating bloody steaks.

When Noah left the Ark, God gave him laws, including the following:

Genesis 9:4: But flesh with the life thereof, [which is] the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

Since this law was given to Noah, we cannot ignore it as part of the old Jewish covenant. Instead, it applies to the descendants of Noah, i.e., to everyone.

In fact, it was reiterated during New Testament times and specifically indicated as applying to Gentiles by the command of the Holy Ghost:

Acts 15:19-20: Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and [from] fornication, and [from] things strangled, and [from] blood.

Acts 15:28-29: For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Acts 21:25: As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written [and] concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from [things] offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.

So be sure that you don't enrage the Holy Ghost by eating anything with blood in it. All meats sold in Freehold County grocery stores are certified to have had all the blood drained and not to come from animals that were strangled or sacrificed to idols.

I apologize for reopening this rather old thread, but there are some issues that I couldn't find addressed anywhere on the forum, and they are closely related to this topic.

In Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14 God has provided us with detailed descriptions what we can and cannot eat, e.g.:

Leviticus 11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.

Leviticus 11:12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination to you.

Leviticus 11:29-30 mentions snails and tortoises to be unclean.

Deuteronomy 14 basically repeats the same rules, but then God also tells us how to dispose of unclean meat of an animal that is on the "to eat" list, but became unclean by dying of natural causes:

Deuteronomy 14:21 Ye shall not eat of any thing that dieth of itself: thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto an alien: for thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God.

Praise the Lord, as He in His wisdom doesn't want us to waste anything!

I apologize for reopening this rather old thread, but there are some issues that I couldn't find addressed anywhere on the forum, and they are closely related to this topic.

In Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14 God has provided us with detailed descriptions what we can and cannot eat, e.g.:

Leviticus 11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.

Leviticus 11:12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination to you.

Leviticus 11:29-30 mentions snails and tortoises to be unclean.

Deuteronomy 14 basically repeats the same rules, but then God also tells us how to dispose of unclean meat of an animal that is on the "to eat" list, but became unclean by dying of natural causes:

Deuteronomy 14:21 Ye shall not eat of any thing that dieth of itself: thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto an alien: for thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God.

Praise the Lord, as He in His wisdom doesn't want us to waste anything!

Although most rules from the OT are still in effect, some were repealled by the New Testemant.

As I said, I'm addle brained today, so I can't think of them all off hand, but for this one, it's found in Acts.

Acts 10:10-16 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

Now you'll notice that shellfish isn't included on that list, and people are a bit split on the subject. Personally I avoid shellfish just in case.

Now you'll notice that shellfish isn't included on that list, and people are a bit split on the subject. Personally I avoid shellfish just in case.

I agree with you on the shellfish thing. I always looked with suspicion at these little suckers. As for the things that died, do you think we could apply it to roadkill? You know, not eat it ourselves, but serve it to a stranger, or sell?

I agree with you on the shellfish thing. I always looked with suspicion at these little suckers. As for the things that died, do you think we could apply it to roadkill? You know, not eat it ourselves, but serve it to a stranger, or sell?

I always figured that roadkill was Gods way of providing for his scavenging animals. I've never really given it much thought.

Location: North Carolina Mountains (God's Country & even closer to Heaven)

Re: God hates bloody steaks! -
01-06-2014, 04:50 PM

Apologies for reopening this old thread, but I too have questions concerning roadkill, specifically a fresh carcass I've found that has yet to be nibbled at by vultures or other beasts and is not in a field, either.

I'm instructed in Exodus 22:31

Quote:

31 And ye shall be holy men unto me: neither shall ye eat any flesh that is torn of beasts in the field; ye shall cast it to the dogs.

Apologies for reopening this old thread, but I too have questions concerning roadkill, specifically a fresh carcass I've found that has yet to be nibbled at by vultures or other beasts and is not in a field, either.

I'm instructed in Exodus 22:31

Is there any Brother or Sister that can give me guidance?

You know, this is the rule of thumb that I use regarding roadkill:

Deuteronomy 14:21. Ye shall not eat of any thing that dieth of itself: thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto an alien: for thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God.

This way, a dead animal does not go to waste, but I don't have to eat it.

Location: North Carolina Mountains (God's Country & even closer to Heaven)

Re: God hates bloody steaks! -
01-07-2014, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Basilissa

You know, this is the rule of thumb that I use regarding roadkill:

Deuteronomy 14:21. Ye shall not eat of any thing that dieth of itself: thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto an alien: for thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God.

This way, a dead animal does not go to waste, but I don't have to eat it.

When my family was going through very hard times in Bangkok, my mother found a freshly dead animal on the street (I can't remember what animal it was; It could have been one of the dancing women from the building down the road for all I know, which worries me greatly) and she fed it to my brothers and I nearly raw. I can remember thinking how delicious it was. Was that a sin, then? What if I end up in the same situation again, with an empty belly that aches so? I am not a rich man. Should I not eat road kill to fend off hunger?

When my family was going through very hard times in Bangkok, my mother found a freshly dead animal on the street (I can't remember what animal it was; It could have been one of the dancing women from the building down the road for all I know, which worries me greatly) and she fed it to my brothers and I nearly raw. I can remember thinking how delicious it was. Was that a sin, then? What if I end up in the same situation again, with an empty belly that aches so? I am not a rich man. Should I not eat road kill to fend off hunger?

Why in God's name can't you eat decent food like a burger or something?

YIC

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

When my family was going through very hard times in Bangkok, my mother found a freshly dead animal on the street (I can't remember what animal it was; It could have been one of the dancing women from the building down the road for all I know, which worries me greatly) and she fed it to my brothers and I nearly raw. I can remember thinking how delicious it was. Was that a sin, then? What if I end up in the same situation again, with an empty belly that aches so? I am not a rich man. Should I not eat road kill to fend off hunger?

Why would you worry about such a minor detail? You refuse to accept the true word of God and are following the false prophet Mohammad. He is marching himself, you and all his smelly, fly blown, camel shagging, goat herding, band of cretins straight to Hell. The information borne here has no relevance to you. It offers help and advice allowing Christians, who have accepted Jesus into their lives, to grow closer to God. You can eat what ever you want, it will make absolutely no difference to your final destination.

When my family was going through very hard times in Bangkok, my mother found a freshly dead animal on the street (I can't remember what animal it was; It could have been one of the dancing women from the building down the road for all I know, which worries me greatly) and she fed it to my brothers and I nearly raw. I can remember thinking how delicious it was. Was that a sin, then? What if I end up in the same situation again, with an empty belly that aches so? I am not a rich man. Should I not eat road kill to fend off hunger?

If you are in that situation again that get down on your knees, and allow Jesus to fill your belly.

In the United States, the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) specifies the approved methods of livestock slaughter:

Chemical (carbon dioxide)
This method is approved for sheep, calves and swine. The animal is asphyxiated by the use of carbon dioxide gas before being bled.
Mechanical (captive bolt)
This method is approved for sheep, swine, goats, calves, cattle, horses, mules, and other equines. A captive bolt stunner is applied to the livestock so as to produce quick unconsciousness in the animals before they are bled.
Mechanical (gunshot)
This method is approved for cattle, calves, sheep, swine, goats, horses, mules, and other equines. The gun is used to render the animal quickly unconscious (and presumably dead) before being bled.
Electrical (stunning or slaughtering with electric current)
This method is approved for swine, sheep, calves, cattle, and goats. The current applied is sufficient to ensure surgical anesthesia throughout the "bleeding" of the animal.

Each of these methods is outlined in detail, and the regulations require that inspectors identify operations which cause "undue" "excitement and discomfort" of animals.

Although the bleeding-heart LIEberals trie to mix technique to avoid the proper bleeding, you might notice that 200 years of Christianity have insured that the animals are "bled", "bled", "bleeding"...

Leviticus 17:12

Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood.

Not that it would practically impact good Americans who never get near Israel, BUT as many are asked by their country to protect the Joos from other heathens, it's a nice thing to have (i'd hate serving my country and then wondering every time I ate a steak)

The "blood" that you see when cooking an hamburger or a steak lightly are only the juices of the meat, try even rarer and you'll see no blood when you cut it.