It's difficult to explain what it does... but in brief, it shows flashy colorful things on your UI when you or your target gain or lose a buff or debuff. It's really helpful to let you know in a split second when important things have happened (like an OoC proc, or Prince Malchezzar's Enfeeble ability).

I strongly recommend it.
You can download the latest version here (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/9716/).

is there an addon where u can configure your textwindows(general/combat) easily?
like change the width/height and stuff.

AppleJax

01-28-2008, 04:04 AM

You could go to the Spartan support forum and ask there. (I recommend taking a screen shot to illustrate what you mean.)

overlord

01-29-2008, 09:31 AM

apple is it possible for you to put your ui up with the settings, on curse or something?

i like it alot :)

or tell could you tell me how you acheived the look?

i used spartan the other day but i didnt work very well had lots of bugs and had a stupid purple icon in the centre of the screen?

si if you or any1 could help i would appreciate it very much :)

Raging Epistaxis

01-29-2008, 11:22 AM

Being a curious kitty*, I checked out SpartanUI.com and downloaded the files. When WoW comes back online I'll play around with it and see what's up with it.

I have a question for Apple or anyone else who uses it already - I see that many of the mods it contains are outdated, and on the main page the author himself says that it's not 2.2 compatible. But many of the mods are Ace mods and I know there are updated versions of them available on files.wowace.com.

Have you run the Ace updater to keep many of the bundled mods up to date? or just change the number in the .toc file so that WoW thinks it's up to date. Obviously if you are still using Spartan, there must be some way to make it >2.2 compatible.

*or bored bear - it's maintenance day, after all...

AppleJax

01-30-2008, 01:21 PM

Spartan is a bit unforgiving when it comes to learning how to manipulate it and move bars around. Especially for widescreen; it's default is for normal fullscreen.

I have to go to bed soon, otherwise I'd give a more exhausting breakdown. Basically you want to play with Bartender to move around the, ah, bars. That's basically all I did, really. Mess around with the options, "see what happens." If I really messed something up I just removed Spartan and reinstalled. And when I hit a big block I just went to the Spartan site and asked for help!

Spartan looks shmecksy as hell but it's also a metric ****ton harder to manipulate than the default Blizzard UI. Part of the reason is just the nature of a more maleable UI: to have more options you need... more options in the menu! ^_^ But it's also because, frankly, it's not put together ideally. Sorry, this is one of those "MANY HOURS TO EARN THESE POWERS" occassions.

Raging Epistaxis

01-30-2008, 08:16 PM

Fortunately, I'm an old hand at manipulating UI elements and tweaking configurations.

I already had half the mods that are in spartan installed, and I'll adapt a few of the others and include them in my mix. I'd really like to have the custom artwork background from spartan working, but since it relies on Discord Art and that series of mods is pretty much defunct, I have to go backgroundless.

Which, now that I look closer, I see your adaptation of spartan doesn't have the graphic background strip at the bottom either.

I'll post here when I get something I'm happy with.

Archiee

01-31-2008, 01:18 AM

I need a new chat mod. The one I use hasn't been updated in like 6 months.

overlord

01-31-2008, 12:19 PM

i have updated all the addons now and still get the radom part of the backround, (discord art) so as you said i will also try without the discord art and see where that gets me

thanks for all your help and once i finally get this sorted i'll post a screen shot :)

The cluster of buttons on the left of the minimap correspond with the buttons on my Nostromo N52, and the buttons on the right of the map correspond to it's thumbpad and main thumb button.

tlbj6142

01-31-2008, 02:25 PM

Nice. I assume the buttons change depending on your current form, correct?

BTW, what bar/button mod does Spartan use? Unit Frames?

Raging Epistaxis

01-31-2008, 03:04 PM

Bartender3 is the bar mod in SpartanUI.

I have used Bongos2 in the past with nearly the same setup, but since Bartender3 is Ace and more easily updated, I went with that.

And yes, the page changes with form shifts to show appropriate abilities.

Word of Warning: if you use Bartender3, make sure you do not have TheoryCraft2 installed - they do not play well together and TC2 will keep your paging from working correctly. I just wasted my whole lunch hour trying to figure out why when I was in cat form and tried to prowl, I instead shifted to caster and shadowmelded. Reason? When TC2 and Bartender3 are installed together, a button press somehow triggers the button at that position on your first bar, regardless of which stance/form bar is showing at that time. And on my setup, Prowl and Shadowmeld are both at the lower right position, but on different stance bars.

DrDamage works just fine with both Bongos2 and Bartender3 though (also it's an Ace mod).

AppleJax

02-01-2008, 04:46 AM

And yes, the page changes with form shifts to show appropriate abilities. Is there a way to have one of the bars change when you shift, but not the others? I like being able to moonfire from bear form. :D

Raging Epistaxis

02-01-2008, 01:32 PM

Sure. My thumb buttons on the right of the minimap are constant, as are the 'normal' button bars along the left side of the screen, only the ones in the array on the left of the minimap change with stance/form.

I'm at work, so I can't tell you exactly the name of the setting, but I remember that one of the options you can set for each bar on an individual basis is paging yes/no.

Helkite

02-03-2008, 03:23 AM

check out trinity bars. I like those alot. been to lazy to setup a new flex bar setup. and trinity can kinda do what i want it to do

AppleJax

02-03-2008, 04:44 AM

I noticed something when I went to check out the site.

SpartanUI (http://www.spartanui.com/) and Spartan (http://antipersonnel.org/spartan/) are two different mod packs. :p I use the latter.

Raging Epistaxis

02-03-2008, 01:40 PM

Hehe. Oops.
Very similar setup, but doesn't use the Discord stuff, and obviously uses Pitbull for unit frames.
Unfortunately, the compiler is no longer supporting the compilation, so it looks like you're on your own to update the individual mods as they are updated with new patches. :frown:

AppleJax

02-03-2008, 07:04 PM

Hehe. Oops.
Very similar setup, but doesn't use the Discord stuff, and obviously uses Pitbull for unit frames.
Unfortunately, the compiler is no longer supporting the compilation, so it looks like you're on your own to update the individual mods as they are updated with new patches. :frown: Lies. Astika came back like two days ago. January 30th. Observe:

http://antipersonnel.org/spartan/forum/viewtopic.php?t=319

I miss playing Warcraft with my friends. I may level up something else, and keep the Rogue around to see how 2.4 plays out. Who knows? :)

Regardless, Spartan will be updated (strictly maintenance for patches, and maybe to code Phalanx in my spare time). I will be looking to do something super minimalistic for PvP play, perhaps.

Raging Epistaxis

02-03-2008, 09:32 PM

Well, spank my hairy bear behind. :moon:
That's what I get for not reading all the forums.

AppleJax

02-03-2008, 10:58 PM

lol, it's okay! :) I honestly hadn't gone to the Spartan support forum for months! But yeah, forum wisdom: browse sub-forums and threads by date of the most recent posts. :3

I now have to go stare at a blank wall for 15 minutes just to cleanse my retinas. ;D

valkry

02-06-2008, 08:19 PM

Lol, grid for debuffs (have curse/poison has priority), x-perl has the range finder activated, omen for threat obviously, xraidstatus shows me who is missng what buffs, sw stats shows me who is winning dps, moog shows me my hp and mana in the middle of the screen, titain is just useful for showing money, xp/hour and durability, and deadly boss mods is a must.

Thats the job of a healer, and my set-up shows me all i want to and need to know. I can actually customise it a lot and usually it isnt that crazy but I happened to take the screenie just as all the warnings and heals on me were showing up. And on my screen i do actually have a lot of viewing room, but most pf the time i am just looking at the health bars.

haha...how can you even see whats going on? that would drive me bonkers with that viewing area or lack of.

Kauroth

02-07-2008, 04:54 PM

Now I feel like I've just done acid.

The pretty colours......

valkry

02-07-2008, 10:35 PM

The point is, when raid healing, you don't need to see what's going on, only health bars and status. Whilst im playing normally, swstats, grid, omen, focus target, xraidstatus, dbm and raid bars are all gone, leaving me with a huge viewing area.

And as i mentioned before, i don't usually have everything going at once (for one, grid isnt needed for this fight) and i can minimise xraidstatus during fights as well. It just so heppens we were like 10 seconds into the fight and i wanted to see how many different buffs i could get up when the boss was pulled, and if you take away the warnings message on the screen, its very easy for me to see the surround area on my screen.

And i can move swstats to the bottom right corner (behind the tooltip which only appears on mouse over of something) and it does suddenly become a lot clearer.

That's how i like to play, everything there has it's use, and is used frequently, i just hadn't put away the things i didnt need yet. If i had a screenie of the fight 20 seconds onwards you would see the improvement :) It does look cluttered, but i do have a big screen so it doesnt seem that way for me.

overlord

02-08-2008, 03:38 AM

one thing i have never really got when looking at other peoples uis is why have an arc hud when you have the unit frames?

but im now totally happy with my ui, i just added cartographer and rating buster so im all set now :)

Raging Epistaxis

02-08-2008, 10:05 AM

Even with raid/party unit bars, sometimes when I'm healing I don't pay as much attention to my own health as I do the other party members. A HUD makes it harder to miss the fact I need healing too.

Archiee

02-08-2008, 10:20 AM

The point is, when raid healing, you don't need to see what's going on, only health bars and status. Whilst im playing normally, swstats, grid, omen, focus target, xraidstatus, dbm and raid bars are all gone, leaving me with a huge viewing area.

Wow! I can heal just fine without that mess. All I need is grid. I wanna see you use that set up during archimonde fight you'll catch a doomfire and wipe a raid in no time.

AppleJax

02-09-2008, 01:10 AM

Wow! I can heal just fine without that mess. All I need is grid. I wanna see you use that set up during archimonde fight you'll catch a doomfire and wipe a raid in no time. Seriously. This is what strikes me about a UI that totally occludes your screen: you can't see ****. You're Stevie ****ing Wonder. Blindness is something people cure, not willingly inflict upon themselves. Some healers argue "all I need to see are the bars." This is not true. There are plenty of fights where you have to move around alot. Hell, even in Old World pre-60 instances, you should be watching the mobs and your party members' positions. I would go so far as to say that the number of fights where you can just stand in one place and stare at bars are the vast minority.

Wynn

02-10-2008, 10:53 PM

My UI as of right now
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/959/wowscrnshot020808182554mb5.jpg

Archiee

02-12-2008, 12:43 AM

This is our very first pull on illidan, immediatly after he wiped our raid. Notice the no cluttering of my UI.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh15/archie22c/WoWScrnShot_021208_001146.jpg

Allahanastar

02-12-2008, 09:01 AM

Archiee can you list what you use for the following:

Unit Frames - I just love the look of the ones you have
Buff Icons with the time remaining under them

I think I recognize everything else like Grid, FuBar etc, but those unit frames for your party and you and the buffs with Timers I like the look of much better than what I'm using.

Archiee

02-12-2008, 10:15 AM

Morganti's Buffbars and X-Perl UnitFrames. I used to use perl classic unit frams but the x-perl have alot more customizable options.

Kauroth

02-12-2008, 10:20 AM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2280/2260787582_77f3f726ab_o.jpg

Archiee

02-12-2008, 10:22 AM

Put one up next time your in a raid I like to see raid frames and party frames

Kauroth

02-12-2008, 10:27 AM

Will do.

Goin raiding tonight.

Kauroth

02-12-2008, 11:16 PM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2247/2261281183_20dc511770_b.jpg

I'm Feral though, don't have to worry too much about the rest of the raid.

:D

AppleJax

02-13-2008, 03:43 AM

**** yeah Sunwell.

Archiee

02-13-2008, 06:13 PM

lol kauroth. Very Neat and clean though.

lucdemeyerus

02-15-2008, 03:38 AM

Hi Kauroth,

I really like your UI. Could you tell me which addons you've been using ?

Thanks,

Tinuviel

Pookies

03-05-2008, 10:48 AM

Kauroth, your UI is the king of clean UIs ... very sexeh. :clap: Please do tell us what you're using!