Indeed, even if there's no such thing as HDTVs in the market capable of running a higher resolution than 1080p but they are likely to hit the market within the coming years so PS4 being ready for them would be great.

get 1080p running at 60fps on all games and then we'll talk about higher resolution k?

This. PS4 will almost have a mid-high range GPU in 2013, so it SHOULD have 1080p native resolution. Anything more will be utterly wasteful use of resources that could have gone to physics, AI, lighting, post process etc.

I didn't even realize there was already a resolution higher than that. I'm sure the general public has the same mindset. So no. It's be stupid to have that. That's just wasted extra cost that a very small minority would benefit.

I didn't even realize there was already a resolution higher than that. I'm sure the general public has the same mindset. So no. It's be stupid to have that. That's just wasted extra cost that a very small minority would benefit.

I hope PS4 will support a little higher resolution just a little. We most see something specail or different in PS4. P:

most PC's rock 1920x1200 resolution, any higher then they go multiscreen....there is no difference between 1080p and 1200p+. PS4 can put out a higher resolution, but it wont.
also, the bigger you go, the uglier textures start to get. and the less developers can hide

most PC's rock 1920x1200 resolution, any higher then they go multiscreen....there is no difference between 1080p and 1200p+. PS4 can put out a higher resolution, but it wont.
also, the bigger you go, the uglier textures start to get. and the less developers can hide

And the bigger the texture have to be. Therefore you run out of RAM extremely quickly

Yea, hardware can theoretically try and 'output' at higher or lower resolutions. It isn't a hardware specific feature that enables the targeting of that stuff..

What I thought this conversation was about, though, was what the targeted 'standard' was going to be for the next gen. Which I believe should firmly remain at 1080p 30-60fps.

This is certainly what I am hoping for. I think it is a little different this time around with what resolutions should be outputting at. When the ps3 was first released 1080p tvs were out on the market place, expensive, but still conceivable for people to have. From everything I've seen and read there are just a hand full of TVs with res above 1080 and are crazy expensive ( and ridiculously huge....). A 1080p picture with just a small amount of AA would look quite fantastic

most PC's rock 1920x1200 resolution, any higher then they go multiscreen....there is no difference between 1080p and 1200p+. PS4 can put out a higher resolution, but it wont.
also, the bigger you go, the uglier textures start to get. and the less developers can hide

Than what the PS4 wil have something new? It most have atlease something new and we never seen nor experience. If not than we just keep playing PS3 lol.

Than what the PS4 wil have something new? It most have atlease something new and we never seen nor experience. If not than we just keep playing PS3 lol.

i don't think we've seen concrete specs of the PS4
however, some games already run at 1080p 60fps on the ps3.

HDTV's only go as high as 1080p. there is no need to waste resources going any higher when the norm is 1080.

the higher the resolution, the less resources the console has to work with (lets put it that way)
for the PS3, this is bad. as its restricted by low RAM
PS4 should have enough RAM to run 1080p with every game.

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