This one goes out to the good folks in the Canadian Foreskin Awareness Project!Come on, helmet-heads! Clap along!♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫I've got you under my skin.I've got you deep in the dong of me.So deep in my dong that you're really a part of me.I've got you in my foreskin♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫

"I would like Oprah to come to her senses and realize that all children have a fundamental human right to keep all their genitalia and to decide for themselves if anything gets cut off," Callender said Wednesday.

Parents make all sorts of decisions for their children that have a wider impact on their lives than whether to circumcise or not.

/really don't understand some guys obsessiveness over other peoples foreskin//haters in 3...2...

gingerjet:I was sort of alright with the article until we got to this part:

"I would like Oprah to come to her senses and realize that all children have a fundamental human right to keep all their genitalia and to decide for themselves if anything gets cut off," Callender said Wednesday.

Parents make all sorts of decisions for their children that have a wider impact on their lives than whether to circumcise or not.

/really don't understand some guys obsessiveness over other peoples foreskin//haters in 3...2...

Partly it's about gender symmetry - if female genital cutting is horrific and needs to be stopped, then male genital cutting is also horrific and needs to be stopped. It's fascinating that the anti male-circumcision folks really focus on a child's inherent right to bodily integrity and to consent, as an individual, to modification, whereas the anti female-genital cutting crowd tend to focus not on agency but on the necessity of bodily integrity. Double standards... fun times. Some great anthropological writing on this stuff too.

Not sure I'd have my baby boy circumcised, if I had a baby boy. I might let him decide to do it at 14, like a Maasai.

FTFA: "Callender expects "a dozen to two dozen people" to attend the protest."12 people? I think that's being WAY too generous. They're not exactly endowed with a sizable base of supporters. I don't many people can get their hands on this issue and gaining support would be very hit-and-bris.

These anti-circ people spend way too much time obsessing over their dicks. And our dicks. Its pretty much a sign of an unhealthy mind. If it sucked that bad, we would have stopped doing it about 3500 years ago, trust me. It's really a minor cosmetic difference and women like it cut, so its gonna be around for a while.

misanthropologist:gingerjet: I was sort of alright with the article until we got to this part:

"I would like Oprah to come to her senses and realize that all children have a fundamental human right to keep all their genitalia and to decide for themselves if anything gets cut off," Callender said Wednesday.

Parents make all sorts of decisions for their children that have a wider impact on their lives than whether to circumcise or not.

/really don't understand some guys obsessiveness over other peoples foreskin//haters in 3...2...

Partly it's about gender symmetry - if female genital cutting is horrific and needs to be stopped, then male genital cutting is also horrific and needs to be stopped. It's fascinating that the anti male-circumcision folks really focus on a child's inherent right to bodily integrity and to consent, as an individual, to modification, whereas the anti female-genital cutting crowd tend to focus not on agency but on the necessity of bodily integrity. Double standards... fun times. Some great anthropological writing on this stuff too.

Not sure I'd have my baby boy circumcised, if I had a baby boy. I might let him decide to do it at 14, like a Maasai.

As a formerly 14 year old boy, I can tell you that no 14 year old from now until the end of time is going to be voluntarily circumcised. There is just no way any teen is going to decide to let anyone cut any piece of his dick off for any reason. Ever.

SuperChuck:misanthropologist: gingerjet: I was sort of alright with the article until we got to this part:

"I would like Oprah to come to her senses and realize that all children have a fundamental human right to keep all their genitalia and to decide for themselves if anything gets cut off," Callender said Wednesday.

Parents make all sorts of decisions for their children that have a wider impact on their lives than whether to circumcise or not.

/really don't understand some guys obsessiveness over other peoples foreskin//haters in 3...2...

Partly it's about gender symmetry - if female genital cutting is horrific and needs to be stopped, then male genital cutting is also horrific and needs to be stopped. It's fascinating that the anti male-circumcision folks really focus on a child's inherent right to bodily integrity and to consent, as an individual, to modification, whereas the anti female-genital cutting crowd tend to focus not on agency but on the necessity of bodily integrity. Double standards... fun times. Some great anthropological writing on this stuff too.

Not sure I'd have my baby boy circumcised, if I had a baby boy. I might let him decide to do it at 14, like a Maasai.

As a formerly 14 year old boy, I can tell you that no 14 year old from now until the end of time is going to be voluntarily circumcised. There is just no way any teen is going to decide to let anyone cut any piece of his dick off for any reason. Ever.

See, I stopped reading the FARK headline at foreskins. I'm sure as hell not gonna click that link

SuperChuck:Not sure I'd have my baby boy circumcised, if I had a baby boy. I might let him decide to do it at 14, like a Maasai.

As a formerly 14 year old boy, I can tell you that no 14 year old from now until the end of time is going to be voluntarily circumcised. There is just no way any teen is going to decide to let anyone cut any piece of his dick off for any reason. Ever.

IAMTHEINTARWEBS:See, I stopped reading the FARK headline at foreskins. I'm sure as hell not gonna click that link

SuperChuck: Not sure I'd have my baby boy circumcised, if I had a baby boy. I might let him decide to do it at 14, like a Maasai.

As a formerly 14 year old boy, I can tell you that no 14 year old from now until the end of time is going to be voluntarily circumcised. There is just no way any teen is going to decide to let anyone cut any piece of his dick off for any reason. Ever.

Except that people all over the world do it all the time.

Voluntarily? As in, you can join the manly warriors even if you don't? Somehow I don't think so.

willfullyobscure:These anti-circ people spend way too much time obsessing over their dicks. And our dicks. Its pretty much a sign of an unhealthy mind. If it sucked that bad, we would have stopped doing it about 3500 years ago, trust me. It's really a minor cosmetic difference and women like it cut, so its gonna be around for a while.

Your assurances that people would stop putting their kids through something horrible just because it "sucks" doesn't hold up to experience. (i.e. feet binding, female circumcision, head flattening, head elongating, removal of canine teeth, ...) These traditions are hard to root out, usually for the reason you cite; it's touted as merely cosmetic, and seen as essential if you want the kid to look 'right'.

gingerjet:I was sort of alright with the article until we got to this part:

"I would like Oprah to come to her senses and realize that all children have a fundamental human right to keep all their genitalia and to decide for themselves if anything gets cut off," Callender said Wednesday.

Parents make all sorts of decisions for their children that have a wider impact on their lives than whether to circumcise or not.

/really don't understand some guys obsessiveness over other peoples foreskin//haters in 3...2...