We talk with conservation biologist and author Carl Safina about Trump’s plan to target offshore waters for massive oil and gas drilling while abolishing safety rules put in place after the Deepwater Horizon blowout in 2010.

But first, we re-play our 2011 interview with Safina talking about his book about the Deepwater Horizon blowout, A Sea In Flames.

Our theme this episode is gentrification. We talk with Brian Platzer about his novel Bed-Stuy is Burning (Simon and Schuster). It’s about what happens when tensions between gentrifiers and the gentrified explode.