John is brave enought to show us how he does the PI. Mostly appreciated. It is very rare can have somebody be able to do it without flaws. We all have rooms to improve. 1000 times a day for sure can get him better and better.

Great video John! Also, you look like you haven't aged since the beginning of these discussion boards Thanks for sharing.

Xingyiquan is interesting to compare, because almost every lineage does it pretty much the same, with minor differences. (Much easier to compare than bagua, etc.)

I learned one version of piquan with the front leg stepping back a bit, too - the idea was to kind of pull/jar someone down before stepping into them with zuan and pi. In that sense it may be a bit similar to tanglang's gou, lou, cai, but the direction is different.

No you don’t sound direct, just arrogant, elitist and exclusionary. As I said if you’re not willing to share it’s ok. You’re absolutely right if you don’t recognize quality art already you’re behind the curve.

WD,There is no need to get personal.I remember my good friend who is a dedicated pastor,it took him more than six year to grasp Hebrew and Greek and before his completion of his Bible college. And BTW, the martial art literature is also written in analogy and jargon,If you speak Chinese, you still won’t get it~ bit like Tibetan Buddhism jargon in Tibetan~Cheers!

The meanings behind the words are opened for interpretation. I likes the 1000 times practicing as many issues will come up so go back to the old literature for indication. And the process goes on and on. Perception on the same words changes with the practicing. It is the fun part. Knowing chinese, the mind could stick to its own interception. I find it works better to let the body tell from ongoing practice. But it is hard to find out the pain from body parts is from improper doing or more training needed.

If learning Chinese helped there would be billions who got instead of a handfulI could have devoted all my spare time to learning Chinese or practicing my artI chose the latterMost western practicioner that have I met who speak Chinese are usually the furtherest away from the prize

Arrogance is a rudeness, and suggests exclusion. Anyone who studies these arts with any serious intent has done the research, and what is written is redundant if you have done the work, it is merely the understanding offered by one who has done the work, you will come to it with or without these words. I have found that what the masters have written is only understanding and meaningful to me after I have come to this juncture on my own. IMO, all who study seriously have a journal if not we tout the words of others with know founding background.

Move forward, move backward Move backward , move forward One step east, follow one step eastHold softly, a hairsbreath, to know the directionThis path is clear if followed from the core

wayne hansen wrote:If learning Chinese helped there would be billions who got instead of a handfulI could have devoted all my spare time to learning Chinese or practicing my artI chose the latterMost western practicioner that have I met who speak Chinese are usually the furtherest away from the prize

actually, if a lot of ppl are doing the wrong thing; it does not make it right.