The original interview was conducted at the Remodeling Show & Deck Expo. John Bailey with James and Morris at the Remodeling Show & Deck Expo.

John Bailey – Director of Marketing & Sales, Clip Stone, more information can be found at www.myClipStone.com

Morris: [00:00:00] And
we are back and I’m looking at a book that’s entitled Clip Stone and then
underneath the title it says mortarless stone veneer by Environmental Stone
Works. And with us is John Bailey who’s the director of their marketing and
sales. And I think this Clip Stone product is just amazing. I mean you don’t
use any mortar.

John: [00:00:25] Correct.

Morris: [00:00:26] I
mean this can go inside or outside.

Morris: [00:00:29] And
anybody can do it.

John: [00:00:31] Correct.

Morris: [00:00:31] You
have to. You have to have a screw gun and a screwdriver.

John: [00:00:34] And
a level exactly.

Morris: [00:00:35] And
a level. So you start out leveling the bottom. And once you have a level bottom
you just lay the stone on top of the bottom and just start screwing it in.

John: [00:00:46] That’s
correct.

Morris: [00:00:47] And
then every once in a while you have to make a cut at the end.

John: [00:00:50] Correct.

James: [00:00:51] Why
don’t I just put traditional stone up?

John: [00:00:53] Well
this enables you to you know you’re right.

Morris: [00:00:56] Because
most people aren’t Masons silly.

John: [00:00:59] That’s
true. You know for most people you having to put lath and mortar and you’re
mixing it and there’s a lot of issues with that. This is basically you get the
same look it’s a cultured stone, mortarless stone that you’re mechanically
fascinating and you can do it yourself.

Morris: [00:01:14] So
here’s the deal. I put a sheet of plywood or OSB.

John: [00:01:18] Correct.

Morris: [00:01:19] Onto
my wall say in my office. And I put plywood end and floor to ceiling.

John: [00:01:25] Yes.

Morris: [00:01:26] Now
the plywood has to be a half inch or thicker?

John: [00:01:29] Yes.

Morris: [00:01:30] I
would personally use probably three quarter inch because I’m a nut for
structure. And then of course the baseboard has already been removed and you
just take this stone and there are supports. At the bottom and top.

John: [00:01:47] Correct.

Morris: [00:01:47] So
for the first row you take the bottom supports off.

John: [00:01:50] Right
or they just actually kind of fold ’em back like that and they fit in a starter
strip.

John: [00:02:01] Correct.
So the bottom line you fold them up like that and they fit into the groove of
the starter.

Morris: [00:02:06] That’s
so easy.

John: [00:02:08] And
then you get it. Like you said you get it level and then-.

Morris: [00:02:11] This
thing weighs what about five pounds.

John: [00:02:14] The
Stones vary in length so that but the stone itself weighs 12 pounds per square.

Morris: [00:02:19] This
isn’t 12 pounds.

John: [00:02:20] No
no because 12 pounds per square foot. So depending on the length of the stones
you have is.

Morris: [00:02:26] And
each stone is held by two screws. Now you provide screws?

John: [00:02:30] We
do not we let them.

Morris: [00:02:32] So
you’d recommend the screw correct way at one is going to be a cap head at least
one inch.

John: [00:02:37] Pan-head
and one inch screws.

Morris: [00:02:39] oh
excuse me a panhead. Yeah. So a panhead and a Phillips because it’s easier to
drive with electric driver.

John: [00:02:44] Correct.

James: [00:02:46] Is
there a jig for placement or you just hold it up and you just drive the screws
right in the-

John: [00:02:51] You
just drive the screws in the key is keep in. I used you know a little torpedo
level to make sure the Stones level. You know it doesn’t matter if the brackets
are off as long as the stone is left and then you when once you get your first
row level since they’re all four inches in height. But they vary in length you
have four different length. Just like you said you’re just loading the man with
the legs down below and then pass them on the long work your way up and what
you’re trying to do is make sure you stagger the joints and you’re staggering
the colours of the random colors.

Morris: [00:03:18] People.
I’ve got to tell you something I tap on the stone. That is really. Feels like
stone. It’s concrete isn’t it.

James: [00:03:28] More
importantly it looks like stone.

John: [00:03:29] Yeah.

Morris: [00:03:30] It’s
amazing it looks exactly and.

James: [00:03:32] It’s
stacks stone and this is sorts of profiles. How many profiles have you got?

John: [00:03:37] We
make we actually make two profiles we make a lead stone in a pro stack and the
prostack has a lot of shadowing looks like individual pieces.

James: [00:03:44] Gorgeous.

John: [00:03:45] Leadstone
is traditional Yeah. And then you have when is it least. It looks like eight or
nine different colours that it’s available.

James: [00:03:53] More
than that. My gosh yeah.

Morris: [00:03:55] Oh
when you can mix colours too.

John: [00:03:57] You
can mix colours and styles so if you look at the front of the brochure this
builder actually used prostack but then he mixed in a few lead stones to break
it up.

James: [00:04:05] I’ll
be darn.

Morris: [00:04:06] I’m
telling you this is beautiful stuff. You walk into someone’s house and you tap
and you think it’s a real honest to goodness mortared in stone.

James: [00:04:17] What’s
interesting you’re using a driver drill, a cordless driver drill and some
screws, and that’s about it and for cuts you know you’ve got to use a cut off
saw with a carborundum blade or something like it.

Morris: [00:04:28] Or
a grinder.

John: [00:04:28] Or
a hand grinder with a four and half inch. It works fine.

James: [00:04:31] And
it sounds to me like you’re appealing to builders and remodelers and specifiers
to utilise this in lieu of the traditional means but also to home owners who
have an interest in getting their hands dirty and doing something on the inside
or outside of their home where they don’t need to have the expertise.

John: [00:04:46] Correct.

James: [00:04:47] All
right.

Morris: [00:04:47] You
know this is something that I mean you’d have a hard time screw this up.

James: [00:04:52] John
Bailey. He is with Clip Stone. How may folks get more information on your
product?

John: [00:04:57] Now
if you wants more information. It’s great. Go to the Web site which is
myclipstone.com.

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