Your Date With Destiny: Meeting the Real Jesus

I'm just telling you what the Bible says. If he somehow appeared to me and said he was Jesus I most likely would not believe,because that would make
the scriptures untrue.If the scriptures are untrue that means every word spoken from Jesus would be untrue.

What if its the Antichrist came on clouds? I would simply ask him if he denies the Father and Son, and that Jesus is the Christ.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

You asked me how would I know Jesus is Jesus if he came to me. . Not the Holy Ghost, The one the Father sent unto the apostles.

22Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?

26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach YOU all things, and bring all things to YOUR
remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Unless you think you are an Apostle, you make no sense at all.

Wow, you skipped over 4 verses there to make the bible said that. You show the question on 23, but then post an answer after skipping 4 verses.

Why did you purposely ignore the next verse? Because you didn't like what it said.

23Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our
abode with him.

Jesus ANSWERED HIM.

Verse 26 that you tried to quote as the answer is for those who do not know Jesus, or his sayings. If they don't know Jesus and his sayings, then
it's the father they hear. And then the holy spirit will teach them things.

John 14: 24He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

Oh and btw, it also goes to show how Christians focus on John 14:6 while telling people they are going to hell, but then completely ignore John 14:24
which appears later in the same exact chapter.

How do you tell me it's all about the book, but then purposely ignore what it even says there? But you say I am disrespectful to the bible?
Atleast I quote it in context rather than trying to rearrange the verses to make them mean what I want them too.

Btw, John 14 is the reason I started to pay attention to the bible. It describes what happened to me(20, 24-26).

He is talking to his disciples, but his responses and answers apply to any man, which is why he talks about those who don't know his sayings.

Btw, you can keep on avoiding the points, avoiding the questions, and manipulating what the bible says to fit your view all you want. I don't mind.
You only lie and fool yourself. Everyone else can see very clearly what you are doing.

He is talking to his disciples, but his responses and answers apply to any man, which is why he talks about those who don't know his
sayings.

He is instructing them to teach men, because he is leaving this world.
How would men know otherwise? As one poster said these were not written until later.

Btw, you can keep on avoiding the points, avoiding the questions, and manipulating what the bible says to fit your view all you want. I don't
mind. You only lie and fool yourself. Everyone else can see very clearly what you are doing.

I've answered your questions. Your points however are a little vague. Its quite clear that Jesus is sending the Holy Ghost to his disciples so that
he can teach them, so they can in turn teach men.
And please, lets stop with in insults. I am really trying to understand your train of thought.

That isn't what was said in the verses, you had to rearrange the verses to make it say that. They were asking him questions, and he was
answering their questions.
And then you started going off on a tangent about who he was talking too rather than address that you took them out of order to say that. Still you
pretend like you didn't take them out of order.

What are you talking about?
It doesn't matter what order the verse was that I gave you,The point was that Jesus sends the Holy Ghost not himself.The question was would I know
who Jesus was if he came to me.
Ive answered your question.Now tell me what what are you getting at.

Originally posted by oliveoil
What are you talking about?
It doesn't matter what order the verse was that I gave you,The point was that Jesus sends the Holy Ghost not himself.The question was would I know
who Jesus was if he came to me.
Ive answered your question.Now tell me what what are you getting at.

If the order of the verses didn't matter, then you wouldn't have needed to change the order.

Jesus names things for 2 different sets of people. The first are for those who know his sayings and loves him(as you claim).

John 14

22Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?

23Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make
our abode with him.

The 2nd set is for people who don't know Jesus, and don't hear his words.

John 14

24He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

25These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.

26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your
remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

As with many other punctuation marks, the usage of colon varies among languages and, for a given language, among historical periods. As a rule,
however, a colon informs the reader that what follows proves and explains, or simply provides elements of, what is referred to before.

The colons are in those passages because that which follows is used to explain the previous. Thus, the order does actually matter.

You are right in looking for the spirituality in what is spoken and how the spirit moves that person. A person who is spirit filled is a person that
is beaming with the light so bright it is almost blinding. That person is filled with love for their brothers and sisters and helping all find their
way home is their most important goal in their life as well as personally growing in the spirit and finding knowledge and understanding.

It is more important that we are known by our "light" that shines, so others will know we are following "the way". We need to LIVE what we say so
others will believe us and want to follow also. The Holy Spirit will teach us and we will grow in understanding of the word and gain wisdom.

Love is the most important light and one we need to always seek to shine.

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