I'm used to check new pictures every day (not looking in detail at each one. After some time, you get experienced in seeing the ones who could interest/surprise you goodly or recognize an author just by eyeing a fraction of second the thumbnail).

Without auto-approved pictures, usually, it's around 6-7 pages. Sometimes a little less. With queued accepted pictures, it can go between 6 and 10 (rarely more, but it happens). Last month, when the growing queue was emptied, there was almost 30 pages. This is enormous.

Today (GMT+1 here), for the moment (as it's not finished and auto-approved can still post a lot until tomorrow), we are at 49 fucking pages! That means something about how much pictures were in the queue and artists waiting (not talking about all the rejected pieces).

Okay, while I thank the person who did that, here is the thing. Communicate. And at least get some promises or (working) solutions. Because to be fair, as it's already happened twice in a row now and no news to this topic since weeks, I fear it will happen again until the end of the next month.

Note: oh, if the considered solution is really to remove the AP queue (guess it the rejection system), you're killing HF as it was since years, just saying. After all, a point of the basic idea was to not be the deviantart of porn with thousands of low quality pictures and good one drowned in.

Out of curiosity: what's the usual ratio of accepted/rejected pictures submitted? Did you see any particular swings in either direction, relative to the time of year? (e.g. around the holidays, when people have some time off from their day jobs or school)

I made it very clear to admin that he needed to hire an actual contracted/paid employee to support the website and not rely on 'volunteers' that never volunteered. Also it is laughably unfair how unpaid helpers ran the site day-to-day while admin would vanish and be unreachable for weeks if not months. He suggested just removing the AP queue altogether instead of looking for more helpers; infer what you want from that.

-well, there's been at least 3-4 people volunteering to take care of the queue these past couple of months since it's been so ridiculously delayed.....

but no word from admin on that, as far as i've understood it..

Roll3d6 wrote:

Out of curiosity: what's the usual ratio of accepted/rejected pictures submitted? Did you see any particular swings in either direction, relative to the time of year? (e.g. around the holidays, when people have some time off from their day jobs or school)

-i don't think it has ever been as bad as these past 6 months,
or at least i don't think it has been since i joined the site.

///but yes; i don't think the approval should be taken away, it's seriously what makes this site different, what with everything having to be a certain quality before it's allowed on the site.._________________Hapsiel.

Okay, after checking the galleries or recent submission, this is going too far.

MESSAGE TO THE ADMIN/STAFF!

I'm sorry if I'm going to bother you with this long message, especially in public, but the recent events made me losing my patience and my optimism.

For years, I have been following HF. First as an anonymous visitor, later with an account and an username. I have enjoyed it, not only because I could enjoy and jack off on good hentai pictures, but also because it made me discover a whole new world. A real community with people enthusiast and happy to share and grow the community and in the community. I remember my hours discovering the galleries of thousands of amateurs and semi-pro artists the first summer I came here. It was when Sparrow was starting, when some actual huge names were still unknown around here.

During my first years, I was coming here just for the pictures, because I enjoyed all the creativity, all the good quality I could see here and which wasn't just online scans of hentai japan published stuff that I was already reading on many other websites. Here, it was full of a whole new community I was learning to discover. Some people drawing and showing stuff because they wanted too, as a passion. Others trying to get really professional with, to gain enough money to live form it. It was crazy, insane, but as a same time, a hope. For a new possibility, a new future for aspiring hentai artists.

I started to follow a little the forums in the past years. I was here when some huge stupid crisis were happening, when they were endless rage and fight on the Constructive Critique forum, when there were conspiracy theories and all. It seemed to strange and so weird. People were often getting too much into a fight and a mess for rather not that important matters. I was there when there was the loli/shota ban. So much engaged and intense debates. So much arguments and deliberations. Many people left with that ban. But why not. I understood the problem the staff could have with that situation, and despite not liking something being censored, I don't have a particular interest in that stuff, so it wasn't impacting me a lot (despite the sadness to some good artists I was really enjoying getting away).

Despite the harsh times, the site and community still existed, and it seemed there was always new fresh blood to keep replacing the artists leaving. HF had its own identity, and it was working. It was why people were still sticking to that site, still trying to grow and build together.

But now, things are in a very, extremely deadly situation for the future of this site. As you know (especially as the topic talks of it since a moment), during the past months, the staff which was taking care of the queue submission was taking far too much time to do its work. Waiting for weeks to get a rejection or being published when it was just a matter of a few days before? And that didn't happened one, but twice in a row (since I started to notice it). Last month, we got at least some message and one of the member took its time to do the whole job (which still deserve my appreciation). But right now, it didn't happened.

What happened today is a critical issue. I checked the daily submissions. And I have seen more than 50 pages now. The thing, it wasn't filtered pictures. The good ones, the bad ones... There was both of them. And there were also horrible, atrocious pictures which are far from any hope of normally being accepted, and visually quite displeasing. Which mean two possibilities. Either they were all automatically accepted to empty the queue, either someone did it himself.
In the first possibility, it means no one is taking care of the problem since weeks, and we are still waiting for it to be done. The site and community can't live like that. It will die. New artists aren't encouraged to persevere here, on the contrary.
The second possibility is far worse. It means someone has decided to change the rule. Either to just empting things without taking care of the job, or deciding that from now on, the quality didn't matter to post here anymore.

So now, I ask for your opinion. A sincere, complete and truthful opinion. Your point of view on this matter. Because I don't know if HF is going to live one more year.

As a visitor, I don't want it to become the deviantart of porn. The website has always made a difference with keeping standards of quality. It wasn't always fair to everyone but at least, it was enjoyable to not have to check between dozens of poorly drawn or inspired pictures to find great stuff. If the rejection system is removed, HF will lose one of its main point, if not the core of its identity. That will be the most impactful difference there had even been on this site, and in my opinion, could lead to the end of its community.

As an aspiring artist, who still sucks but trains to get better and (with a lof of efforts and luck) maybe be able to fully spend his time living from drawing kinky stuff, I don't want to have to wait almost a month each time to see if my pictures are rejected or not. HF is a great place to make a name, to find a fanbase and to share what you enjoy to draw. It is also a place who push you into improving, into being a better artist. But to begin with, everyone has to pass the rejection system some times at least to show your skills and your dedication. But it's extremely discouraging for new artists to have to wait so long each time. Especially if its to get a rejection. Imagine. if you get just one rejection, goes to the constructive critique forum, works on your picture to improve it and post it again, with the actual delay in the queue, it would take almost two months just to post a picture. Two months! This is insane!
In the long run, many auto-approved artists will eventually leave this place or post less stuff. And with the current status, motivation for new artists is going to decrease. What is going to happen if that there will be less pictures daily shown, and less artists still active. Which is going to eventually kill HF.

So now, I'm waiting for your opinion. Damn, WE are waiting for your opinion, for your ideas, for your answer. All of us who have been posting in this topic and those who were reading it to understand what was happening. All of those who aren't aware of the problems but who feel the impacts.

We want you to act. And we want you to show that you care. About the problems, about us, about the website. About what HF was and what HF is. About our community, about the story we have participated and enjoyed for so long. We don't order you. We don't scream and insult you. But we want to still be able to believe in you. Or if you can't take care of it anymore for any reason you could have in your life (or just not the motivation to work on it), find people who are ready and serious about continue the legacy.

So please, don't let HF dies. Don't let it rot. Don't let it be a relic of the past.

I hope your pleas are heard and answered, Plume, but I'm not sure they will be. I feel like we're seeing the end of HF.
It's frightning. I've been posting my work here for barely two years, and I've no idea where else to take my stuff. Not DA, which I left for this place. Tumblr doesn't quite seem right, neither does Paheal. I'm certain I won't be getting any relevant feedback on Luscious or e-hentai. What altervatives are there left?

Hentai Foundry going down the drain...
if only the Admin would return, grant some volunteering people the permission to filter through the queue, and at least have some 10-20 people around so maybe someone or two could spend their time on looking through the queue,

hell, anything is better than seeing HF going down, this is the place i go to when i need help on anatomy and other stuff when doodeling porny things, i don't think i've encountered anywhere else i can do that without difficulty.

it's bad enough that there was an ageban 2014, that was the only reason i picked HF in the first place (that they allowed everything), but then i stayed even if my main interest went away cuz there's a lot of good artists here, and at least some of those are actively chatting in the forums here, providing valuable feedback and criticism,

i have no idea what the Admin and the other MIA staff are doing,
but seriously, why even bother to focus your efforts on making a prettier site if you're not gonna manage it in times such as these anyway?