Beast of a teacher, unbelievably orders students to kneel and write self-criticisms

I saw this during class. These students, possibly for playing poker, were caught by the teacher. [The teacher] unbelievably orders them to kneel to write [self-criticisms], while the teacher stood beside them and smoked. This teacher was real TM laid-back/nonchalant…

When I was in the fifth grade of elementary school, the teacher pulled me by the ear, and I think at the time my ear even bled.But to this day, I still thank her —— Responsible teachers deserve thanks.

bglin140:

The teacher wasn’t wrong. Kids these days, you can’t hut them, you can’t yell at them, extremely difficult to teach/discipline!Think back to when we were small, the teachers would often use wooden rulers to hit our palms, and when our parents found out after we got home, they’d discipline us one more time. It if weren’t because you didn’t listen, why would the teacher punish you?!

fangxiuxiang:

This kind of so-called “integrity/character education” is itself lacking humanity, or to put it another way, this is inherited from the patriarchal system! This kind of logic is simply: “Might is right!”

小刀儿:

In the first grade I copied someone’s homework and insisted on saying I did it myself, so the teacher gave me a thrashing, my entire ass was beaten purple. Now thinking back to it I hold no hate, and I’m very grateful. She said that liking to play and not completing homework is forgivable, but lying cannot be forgiven, teaching me to develop good character and conduct myself with integrity. After I began working, if an error appeared I would bravely examine myself. I definitely wouldn’t lie to escape the responsibility. It is also because of this that I’ve achieved some success in my career.

Look at kids today, cutting class, truant, not doing homework, casually lying about being sick or having some emergency at home, just skirting by. Even if the teacher knows, the teacher wont say anything. The students aren’t acting like students, the teachers aren’t acting like teachers.

What we advocate is personal development, not distorting personal development. Letting things slide without control and not drawing a line somewhere will only mean that the education system in the future will inevitably be even worse than it is now.

wzp7804：

Heh, this kind [of punishment] is nothing.From elementary to high school, every one of my classmates has been hit by teachers before.Do bad on an exam, get hit; homework isn’t complete, get hit; talk during class, also get hit; don’t go to sleep on time, also get hit.But after all these years my classmates and I have never because of this hated our teachers.I can only say the teacher hit us only to make us better/for our own good.Perhaps these days we excessively stress respecting students.Perhaps today’s students understand things early.But that [today’s students’] self-restraint is lacking is indeed a fact.I understand the teacher, though I don’t support [his methods].

首席评论员：

Really a good teacher, I support. Today’s students definitely deserve getting hit and scolded.

Seeing the asses of these little troublemakers pointed toward the sky is pretty amusing. This teacher really knows what to do [to deal with students], not hitting or scolding, but still giving them a deep/lasting lesson. Ding‘d.

ggyy0066:

[They] deserved punishment.Since ancient times China has used kneeling as a form of punishment for students who don’t listen/don’t behave. Even up to the modern era, teachers use kneeling as a form of punishment for students who don’t listen/behave, so they recognize their mistakes, and it isn’t excessive either. Moreover, the teacher is doing this only for the students’ good too. I think this friend who is calling the teacher a beast isn’t anything good himself, not even understanding the concept of respecting teachers and cherishing children. Posting your whining and complaints here, I think you also lack parental guidance. The youth punished with kneeling, take some time to really reflect on yourselves!!!

崂山九水：

There weren’t any tables and chairs there, so they could only bend-over to write on the ground…

supermyron:

Well punished! Children are used to being god at home, so the schools have a lot of gods being sent there. They say one mountain cannot hold two tigers [there can only be one boss]. One school with this many gods, how can it not be chaos?Who created this many gods? No doubt the god will tell you, it’s the god’s parents.

苏小弟:

Watch Korean TV serial dramas, their teachers seem to often use physical punishment.The students even have to kneel in front of the classroom door with both arms raised too.

cwl1999:

The reason why China is still this weak, why the Diaoyu Islands are occupied and there still isn’t anything being done, is because teachers have made us used to being humiliated since we were small. Those departments talk about punishing corrupt officials, fighting criminals, it’s all just treating symptoms and not treating the cause. Criminals, corrupt officials, why do they commit crime? Because of bad character! Why is their character bad? Because they weren’t educated/disciplined well when they were young! There is a saying that says, “Those who plant trees must cultivate the root.” What is the root? It’s the base, the foundation. If the root is bad, then large tree will sooner or later whither. When even the lowest level of “education” isn’t handled well, what’s the point of flaunting GDP!? Sigh, when “education” is finally taken care of, that is when China will truly have become rich and powerful.

luguoqingt:

The true state of education today is that education law does not allow hitting, cursing, humiliating, or physically punishing students. Very good. The current state also includes students being provided with a monthly allowance. Very good…… When students play with their mobiles, chat, sleep in class, they can only be lightly verbally criticized, (basically no one will listen to you, unless they’re the class monitor) and if they don’t listen there’s nothing you can do. The country/state coddles students too much, because too many incidents have shown me that hitting, scolding, or physically punishing students will only create problems for oneself. You can say I am unethical… [but] look at the current situation of education! Some students take their allowances to go to KTVs, go drinking, smoking, have relationships, it is so nice being a student these days, getting 2.5 yuan allowance to sleep each day, and no one dares to hit or scold them, much less send them home, [because] it’s compulsory education!……….

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Jenevis

I for one, believe the teacher was right to punish those students.

Youngsters today have no respect for authority. Unlike in the 80’s or 90’s, where students respected and feared teachers, today its the direct opposite. Children are too “spoiled”, a teacher punishes them for not doing their homework, and the first thing the child does is to complain and whine to their parents, who then take pity on their precious spoilt child and complain to the school authority.

Although i am in my late 20’s now, but when i was still in school, the teacher was someone whom i respected a feared, for i knew that whatever i did wrong and the teacher punishes me, its for my own good.

I wasnt a very a good student, i was naughty and undisciplined, so i was often punished. But looking back now, i am glad that my teachers did the things they did for it has made a better person.

Yes, there are some teachers’ whose punishment is too extreme, but to be very frank, kneeling down and writing some stuff on the pavement is considered too LIGHT a punishment in my eyes!

Alikese

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

I agree to some extent. I remember complaining about punishment to my parents, my father’s reply was often simple.. “so don’t do that again.” or “you’re lucky that’s all you got.” I’ll pass that on to my kids, probably..unless some sort of Orwellian/draconian teaching system is preventing their growth :D

wutrudoin

guess it isn’t as bad as hitting the kids. a lot of these comments seem like they get off on seeing kids on their knees. asians have become some real true faggots lately. their women are more manlier than them.

I find it interesting how many of these comments are positive about the teachers actions, but no one comments on the fact that the teacher is smoking (smoking in schools is technically banned by the Chinese constitution, which I know is hard to believe).
I worked in a terrible middle school in Chengdu, and I really wish there had been a few more teachers like this.

blackflagnation

yeah, but who actually follows any of the “no smoking” rules in China? I see people smoking in the stairwells at hospitals right next to “no smoking” signs. shoot, have of the time it’s not uncommon to find an ashtray-trash can right under the “no smoking” sign.

Irvin

When I was in college here in china, during break time the teacher always smoke with us at the window and we talk about all kinds of stuff. Good times.

We even go to KTV together sometimes, maybe we just had young teachers that we can relate to.

yournametobynow

He’s outdoors – I don’t think there are any rules about doing that.

I have had similar experiences. Being a foreign teacher at a university, some of the students don’t think my class is a real class, and their disruptive behavior often prevents other people from learning anything. I recently had to discipline a girl who constantly talks during my class. Every time I stop talking, she stops talking, but then when I start again she starts again.

It’s a problem in my class because it’s not only very distracting for me, but I consistently have students who do not understand or misunderstand their assigned work – not because they don’t know English, but because they weren’t paying attention when I explained what to do. Often I have to explain a simple bit of classwork three or four times, and students at the back of the room usually do it wrong anyway.

I usually kick the students out of class hoping they will choose to not come back, but this girl comes to every single class and simply will not shut up no matter what I do or say.

So I gave her an assignment – she had to write a three-page letter apologizing for her disruptive behavior disturbing other students, and I told her to read it in front of the class, or else not come back. I didn’t expect her to actually do it, but she did, and when she started reading it for the class I started talking to the students sitting next to me.

She stopped, I told her to continue. Then as soon as she started I began talking to the people sitting next to me again. She stopped again, and I told her to go on. Every time she started, I began talking to the other students, and when she stopped I asked her to continue.

Eventually she started crying, about halfway through the letter. I then told her to stop, and asked if she understood what I was doing. She said yes, and I told her she could sit down, then continued with the normal lesson as if nothing had happened.

While I think this was a little mean-spirited, she doesn’t spend the whole class talking anymore, or at least this week she hasn’t.

I don’t know – punishment doesn’t work on Chinese students, the only thing that seems to get anyone to change their behavior is to publicly humiliate them.

Irvin

I do agree that some people lacks empathy and are extremely selfish, especially the 90s generation. Not much can be done other than show them the errors for their ways lol

GreenTea

thinking back i am actually grateful that my teachers scolded me and hit me with a ruler.

Chris N.

None of the comments really mentioned parenting as a cause or solution for students’ behavior. They seem to place a lot of importance on discipline and development coming from school, but not from home. I think a lot of westerners would agree that discipline should come from the parents, not the teachers. Do schools in China never hold parents responsible for their children’s behavior? If a kid doesn’t want to learn, then they won’t learn. Beating a child until they learn just doesn’t sound beneficial. Beating a child in school is a quick and dirty solution.

Parents should spend more time with their kids to foster a love for learning, ideally. If someone argues that “some Chinese parents don’t have time because they have no money and work so much”, then maybe they shouldn’t have had kids if they didn’t know what it takes.

bobiscool

You’re not god, you don’t know what’s best for everyone, and you don’t know the situations of other people, so you can’t really generalize with such a simple logic.

Many parents work because of their kids, hoping to be able to provide them with a better environment, better tutors, etc. They’re working so they can hire professionals to help teach their kids. They’re not working so they have more money to spend on themselves.

And really? Western parents teach and discipline children themselves? Unfortunately I didn’t see that during highschool…

Chris N.

“You’re not god, you don’t know what’s best for everyone”

I never tried to argue for everyone nor did I pretend that everyone thinks this way.

“They’re working so they can hire professionals to help teach their kids. They’re not working so they have more money to spend on themselves.”

I don’t know if you’re aware, but education is free.
Also, does hiring tutors and professionals to help your child really make them a good student? Why do you think its necessary to hire people? Why do you think all parents want to hire tutors? You’re not God, you can’t generalize with such simple logic.

“And really? Western parents teach and discipline children themselves? Unfortunately I didn’t see that during highschool…”

I said should discipline and I didn’t not say that parents should teach their children. You use the word teach but teach has too broad of a meaning. If parents want to home school their kids then thats one thing. I said they should foster a love for learning for their kids, and particularly at a young age when children are more easily influenced. I don’t know why you just mention high school. What about middle and elementary school. Its much harder to change the a poor student in high school than in elementary school so why not start then? Do you think beating a high schooler will really change their habits?

Chris

When you think about it, considering it’s more “normal” to have two working parents, that means from 8 to 5, kids spend time in school. That’s 8 hours. Subtract another 8 hours for sleeping, you get 8 more hours at home, actually interacting with your parents. So you essentially spend as much time with your parents as your teachers. In this sense, teachers are just a sources of moral code etc just as much as parents, if not more so. Not detracting from the fact that parents have responsibilities also, but it’s a combination of things.

88god

oh my! The teacher never caught me!
SOFA!!! baby baby~~~

vince

This is quite odd, no quip about chinaSmack personals in this article fauna?

It’s really interesting how many commenters were mistreated in their childhood, then later find excuses for violence and humiliation and even praise their teachers.

Pvt. Joker

I’d actually acted out more? Does that mean I’m into SM??

Damn I always got the ruler and she hits HARD!

staylost

I bet if you winked at her when she called you over and moaned out “so much pain, & SO much pleasure!” while she hit you, you would’ve escaped further ruler beatings.

Anon

They’d use insanely PC rubbish to expel you if you did that, and later keep tabs on you for being a potential predator while false flag spooks pretend to befriend you to keep ‘tabs’ the rest of your life.

The psy establishment is run by insane purveyors of convention and regression, retenance of political power, who need to get a life outside of their patronage landed jobs, didn’t you know?

We don’t exactly live in a free society, the medieval one continued in a different form and needs to be voted out of office or torn down as in the recent Middle East.

Western style societies are more subtle in application of oppression, not through theocracy but social engineering, neurolinguistic programming and technology like milimeter or electromagnetics.

Some of them have a conscience. Others are insane. Almost too many are at least drunk on power and well ready to abuse it. Better vote carefully (i.e. non-establishment, non-rich).

One party or 10 parties, or independents, it makes no difference, it is the INDIVIDUAL MPs that can change the world for the better, and if you really don’t like the threadbare choices you see, run for candidacy yourself. Otherwise get ‘worthy’ people with non-repressive values to run at your behest.

Life is meant to be lived in freedom, not fear. Read the Universal Declaration of Human Rights to learn what you are entitled to ad how mankind should treat you or run governments. i believe China is up to the task. Only nations with comfortable liquidity and excess funds have the confidence and daring to apply civilisational values.

I was made to kneel, and even whipped (with a small whip, not very painful, but still very humiliating) by a young mistress in a Catholic school for boys, LONG ago, I hated it, and my parents moved me to another school.
The only instances in which I would condone humiliating punishments, and physical punishments too (push-ups, for example), is when students bully weaker kids or harass the girls.

Justin

At my elementary school there was a coach who was fired for assigning kids to “time out” in a big cardboard refrigerator box. That guy was a dick. I think the school district still kept him on as a driver’s ed instructor.

There was a driver instructor/Spanish teacher who was a raging alcoholic in my hometown. He would do driving instruction while drunk…

Joe

Holy shit… the kindergarten I went to used a dark room as punishment. Exactly what it sounds like. It was a close with no windows or light. If you were bad, the teacher would tell you to go have timeout in the dark room. The only light was from the crack under the door. This was in Texas, circa early 1990s.

Peye

I went to school in Germany many many moons ago. We got it with a Bamboo cane on the backside or on the open hand. That were the good old days were discipline was the order of the day. All I can say is: We have come a long way baby.
OR???????

Maybe next time these kids will think twice about playing poker at school. ZERO SYMPATHY.

Irvin

looks like the stuff they do during cultural revolution but they did it to adults then.

Physical and emotional punishments are nothing to be brag about; it only shows the failure of the parents at home and the teachers at school.

Real education weather it’s to impart knowledge or character should be inspired not forced.

Not contesting that force doesn’t work, but inspiration is what we should strive for and not the short cut of punishment. Fear does not equate respect.

Thomas

I do believe in human dignity. Punishment is good and necessary, but it must always be dignified.

Li RuiKe

You obviously don’t understand discipline. Pain isn’t the goal because pain is soon forgotten. Humiliation is the goal. We don’t forget our loss of dignity. You think it’s unnecessary? Everyone was born an angel? You must be seriously mentally-challenged to think that. Children do bad things because they don’t know any better. Children scream and hit and yell and bite and kick at parents, grandparents, siblings and strangers. Children take things that don’t belong to them. Bad parents and teachers allow it. Good parents and teachers use appropriately timed humiliation to teach children a lesson that they will not soon forget. When we see a child making a scene in public we despise the child’s useless parents. They don’t love their own kids enough to raise them properly. What they sow they will reap. Those children grow up to be the real abusers. Don’t be stupid and short-sighted: humiliating disciple now means love later.

I honestly hope you’re just trolling because you’re obviously not fit to be a parent or around kids if that’s how you really think.

Do you still hear the screaming of the lambs Clarice?

Anon

Thats authoritarian (and old fashioned and suitable for the Upper and Apex classes) as hell and completely disregards self determination. How about letting them figure things out instead of spoon feeding them poisonous and traumatizing memories?

You won’t get real ‘growth’ that way, you will get an artificial personality superimposed over that person though. All that you try to suppress is nature, and these feelings will be rediverted and expressed by all involved eventually.

The best thing is to make space and normalise. Let the abusers hang around each other. They’d be happy to be hurt or to hurt others. Maybe it’s the fate of some people to die like gladiators in their youthful prime? Or cautiously remain yobbish street fighters into their old age, enjoying bar brawls until they decide it’s too painful and retire to the nearest hippy commune?

But society must respect their choice for they ARE society. No people means no society, and don’t presume to pick and choose, which un-PC – DISCRIMINATION is like APARTHEID. Conversely, make space for those well behaved types too who intend to live till their pampered bodies break down (or not with that Telomerase extending ‘Immortality’ drug coming up to allow measured Apotheosis).

Zone entire districts appropriate for certain things and forbid in others entirely. Diversity is beauty. Multitudes of expression are meaningful to observe even though we may not like them now, we will need to preserve and will come to love them, from Burkha to Nudist, hobbyist drug self-experimenters to the standard pipe carrying country/yatch club going snobs!

But to humiliate or manipulate? Just defeats the purpose of experiencing life in it’s entirety (for those who intend to at any rate), while context and reasonable limits are also important – i.e. wanting to play with Nukes or carry out mass terror attacks just aren’t accomodatable.

Yet it’s a long trip and ultimately the Will of all individuals must be respected as fragments of expression of the Universe which could be validly anthropomorphised as God.

You do not humiliate Nature. Nature humiliates you. You do not humiliate the Universe, the Universe humiliates you. You do not humiliate God. God humiliates you.

As John Lennon sang ‘ Let it be.’ (in appropriate environments wherever viable of course). That ‘world power’ using Nukes to liberate as opposed to consensual cannibal ‘victims’ or just your bored ‘dogging’ teens or naked subway travelers by comparison are such an example. Socialised engineering is fine but making space for all expressions are the balancing factor which show the essence of civilisation.

As, bullfights in Spain, Salman Rushdie gushing on about Red Light Districts, or even Nudist Colonies and Gay Parades of this day, let there be venue for all expressions of mankind. Do we need to humiliate? We are humans, parts of God, not bonsai plants. No group is more entitled than any other to impose their will, or hurt others for dissent or differing opinions on what is moral or not.

A nation or mindset may be Authoritarian, but try now for Utopian, the rewards are immeasurable as the application in sincerity. The will you see the true freedom mankind can experience.

Much like Moscow decided to IGNORE the graffiti for he meaningless but perhaps ‘Quantum (of Freedom) Reassuring’ phallic scrawlings on a bridge (which any Samiritan could take upon themselves to clean up too), there IS a need to make a proper venue that is accessible to all ! There is no need to fear, and oppression is a sign of fear and lack of confidence!

Freedom and mental autonomy are the gifts we were born with, any in ‘power’ must remember that these are the only things that matter, what kind of insanity/mindset would cause one to FORCE people into mindsets not of their own choice? As for quality of life and chaos, as mentioned, let there be places for all kinds of expressions.

People do mellow but most importantly, it was their choice and not the manipulation of others that mellowed or gentrified them. It is like paying someone to be a friend, than that someone felt friendship on their own to another. Which is the core of Humanism and nominally Psychological Honesty applied with ethics and principles in regard to one’s fellow man.

Civilisational values are the only thing that separates Good from Evil. And we all know what happens in Red Oceans as opposed to Blue Oceans. Give (space to live), and everyone gets more (quality of life). Not keep and sequester to oneself and begger thy neighbour.

Li RuiKe

Looks like you left your word processor on “random mode” there, cowardly Anon. Might want to check that.
I hope you’re not trying to humiliate me. That would be both hypocritical and ironic.

Anon

Glint of steel? Nice to know they still exist if so.

Anon stands for Everyman, not Cowardly but a necessity given the cowardly rubbish they have arrayed at everyone. Yes rambling is therapeutic. I don’t know if I was trying to. We’ll let our betters decide that if we do not consider either of us better than the other.

I don’t take to being hypocritical or ironic though but always appreciate any well intended comments, though methodologies are susceptible to presumptions on the nature of the subject in question. The feedback is always valuable in any case.

” Do you still hear the screaming of the lambs Clarice? ” Catch you on the rebound, if any.

k

As a first grade teacher in the USA, I’m not necessarily sure this is a great idea. I mean there’s other ways to punish a child then to force them to write self depreciating comments about themselves. It seems to me, if the teacher took away something the children enjoyed (free time, play time, snack, have them clean up trash around school grounds, clean classroom desks, etc,.) he’d get further. However, I do understand where the teacher is coming from. I’m not going to say every student is disrespectful, I have many who aren’t, but there are some that are and they learn it from their parents. Children were disrespectful 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago too, because they’re people, and people can be rude, especially when they see it at home. Many students just don’t realize that the whole purpose of school is to give them skills they need in order to be successful in society and one of those things they need to understand is that you have to follow authority figures (the teacher may take away your recess for being rude, a cop will arrest you), and you have to follow rules set by society in order to be harmonious with society and the culture you live in. Anyway, I don’t think what the teacher did was horrible, it wasn’t best practice, but it just seems there would be other ways to handle the situation in a more professional manner.

Irvin

Detention and extra home work comes to mind, or have them do push ups military style.

Alternatively, he can take them to visit some rehab center for gamblers, or people who didn’t made it in life, pay a beggar to lie and said he was playing poker all the time in school too and now he begs.

See? inspiration works.

blackflagnation

but these aren’t 1st graders…judging from the pictures, they look more like university students. I doubt anyone in their late teens to early 20’s is going to be traumatized by punishment the students above had to endure.

Rawlie

I work at a school in Hong Kong for kids with problems with socialisation and discipline. Kids here seem to be rewarded no matter how bad their behaviour is and punishments are a joke. There is no fear or respect for the local teachers and, if it wasn’t for my size and demeanour, I doubt there would be much for me either. The local teachers always go on about building relationships with the kids and I totally agree with that. But surely that relationship is teacher – student, not father/mother – son or big brother / sister – little brother. I totally agree with what this teacher has done. It’s non-physical but ensures the students know that they have been punished through the nature of the act.

Josh

God, I fucking love humiliating students. Normally people say doing self criticisms and forcing people to kneel is disgusting and particularly since the Cultural Revolution is truly without dignity and inhumane. But I say fuck them. The Red Guards were on to something there. They had it right.

John Wayne

Only one thing; I would have them doing something constructive. Picking up trash, pulling weeds and writting research paper on poker games.

Koreansentry

This is unacceptable in communist China.

fireworks

A bit extreme and arrogance on the part of teacher.

Yard duty such as collecting garbage and also detention with a essay would have been sufficient.

A letter to the parents would have caused them to regret rather than public humiliation.

david

I would never do this to my students. Uh, I thought smoking on school grounds was forbidden now(chuck chuck).

In my opinion, if a kid really needs discipline, there are good alternatives.

For example, if the kid is a total fuck up, then take him down to the local place where all the uneducated, unsuccessful people hang out, and let them see it

or, let them volunteer on the weekends (with parents consent) doing some community work with people who do not have the chances they have.

Like people with HIV, work with them a day, and see how they would feel. or take them to a place that helps drug addicts. this may wake em up a little

in america there was a show called Scared Straight.
Where kids who were getting into serious trouble were taken to prisons to visit the criminals. And they talked to the prisoners. afterwards, i do not think those kids continued their bullshit.

you do not need to punish kids by humiliation. This only feeds the fire of discontent. Do something positive.

If someone did this to my child, i would be at the school complaining and asking for the teachers resignation.

hurting a child does not equate discipline.

Alex

I don’t think that is harsh, just a bit of humiliation imo. I remember when I was in high school (New Zealand) our teacher was fair but tough. As long as you did your study, respect him and other students, he would be very encouraging. But as soon as you stepped out of line, he’d give you a chance to make amends and if you stepped out of line again, you’d be marched off to the headmaster’s office. The headmaster was a person to be feared, very old school, luckily I never did go down that path.
I also remember a very disruptive classmate whom ended up being marched out of class one day, given a letter, sent off to fetch his dad then after coming back to stand up in front of the whole school during lunchtime to read out the letter… he smartened up quite a lot after that and 18 years later I still give him crap for it nowadays (one of my best friends)