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Hateful thug attacks transgender charity patron

The patron of a charity which supports transgender people was attacked in what police are treating as a hate attack.

Writer Sarah Savage, who is a patron of Wipe Out Transphobia, was kicked and called “mate” by a drunken lout as she walked through Peacehaven.

Now the 31-year-old, who lives in Saltdean, has spoken out about her ordeal. “It was terrifying,” she said. I felt so vulnerable and I want the person who did this to me caught.

“I was walking along the street when I saw a man urinating. He appeared drunk and I just walked by. He then apologised for urinating.

“He asked me for a cigarette. I ignored him and carried on walking. He came up to me and started threatening me.

“I did not want to say anything but he went from calling me ‘love’ to ‘mate’. It got increasingly violent and I felt incredibly vulnerable.

“He grabbed and kicked me.”

Miss Savage was able to pull herself free and called police. They have released CCTV footage of a man they would like to talk to in connection with the incident which took place in South Coast Road at the junction with Roderick Avenue on October 20.

Detective Constable Sheila Nicholson said: “We are treating the incident as an assault, with the man intending to rob the victim.

“We are investigating this as a hate crime due to the man becoming more violent when he realised that his victim was transgender.

“This was very upsetting for the victim and we are offering her support to cope with her ordeal.”

How was this a "hate" crime?
The man was clearly drunk, offensive & belligerent and simply attacked a witness to his urinating in public who refused to give him a cigarette.
This City & its law enforcers have got to get a grip on reality, not every homosexual who is punched on the nose is the victim of homophobia just as this unfortunate victim was presumably unknown to the offender who would not have known of her association with transsexual issues.

How was this a "hate" crime?
The man was clearly drunk, offensive & belligerent and simply attacked a witness to his urinating in public who refused to give him a cigarette.
This City & its law enforcers have got to get a grip on reality, not every homosexual who is punched on the nose is the victim of homophobia just as this unfortunate victim was presumably unknown to the offender who would not have known of her association with transsexual issues.Vigilia

Vigilia wrote:
How was this a &quot;hate" crime?
The man was clearly drunk, offensive &amp; belligerent and simply attacked a witness to his urinating in public who refused to give him a cigarette.
This City &amp; its law enforcers have got to get a grip on reality, not every homosexual who is punched on the nose is the victim of homophobia just as this unfortunate victim was presumably unknown to the offender who would not have known of her association with transsexual issues.

The attack was clearly motivated by the fact that the victim was transgender!!! The urinating thicko, like many of his ilk, feel the need to attack people whose sexuality is ambiguous in any way, as is the case with some transgender people.

[quote][p][bold]Vigilia[/bold] wrote:
How was this a "hate" crime?
The man was clearly drunk, offensive & belligerent and simply attacked a witness to his urinating in public who refused to give him a cigarette.
This City & its law enforcers have got to get a grip on reality, not every homosexual who is punched on the nose is the victim of homophobia just as this unfortunate victim was presumably unknown to the offender who would not have known of her association with transsexual issues.[/p][/quote]The attack was clearly motivated by the fact that the victim was transgender!!! The urinating thicko, like many of his ilk, feel the need to attack people whose sexuality is ambiguous in any way, as is the case with some transgender people.KarenT

John Steed wrote:
yobbish drunken behaviour is not hate crime, its drunken yobbish behaviour simples.com however just because yobbish drunken behaviour is common place it does not mean its acceptable.

It IS a hate crime when threatening behaviour is exacerbated by someone's perceived ethnicity or sexuality, regardless of the fact that the assailant was a drunken yob. I see plenty of drunken yobs wandering around Brighton with their knuckles dragging behind them on any given night, but they (fortunately) seldom get in my face. Probably cuz I'm white and my sexuality is not ambiguous. I'm not a target!

[quote][p][bold]John Steed[/bold] wrote:
yobbish drunken behaviour is not hate crime, its drunken yobbish behaviour simples.com however just because yobbish drunken behaviour is common place it does not mean its acceptable.[/p][/quote]It IS a hate crime when threatening behaviour is exacerbated by someone's perceived ethnicity or sexuality, regardless of the fact that the assailant was a drunken yob. I see plenty of drunken yobs wandering around Brighton with their knuckles dragging behind them on any given night, but they (fortunately) seldom get in my face. Probably cuz I'm white and my sexuality is not ambiguous. I'm not a target!KarenT

Vigilia wrote:
How was this a &quot;hate" crime?
The man was clearly drunk, offensive &amp; belligerent and simply attacked a witness to his urinating in public who refused to give him a cigarette.
This City &amp; its law enforcers have got to get a grip on reality, not every homosexual who is punched on the nose is the victim of homophobia just as this unfortunate victim was presumably unknown to the offender who would not have known of her association with transsexual issues.

Before spouting such nonsense, please learn the difference between homophobia and transphobia and then people MIGHT treat your comments a little bit more seriously.

[quote][p][bold]Vigilia[/bold] wrote:
How was this a "hate" crime?
The man was clearly drunk, offensive & belligerent and simply attacked a witness to his urinating in public who refused to give him a cigarette.
This City & its law enforcers have got to get a grip on reality, not every homosexual who is punched on the nose is the victim of homophobia just as this unfortunate victim was presumably unknown to the offender who would not have known of her association with transsexual issues.[/p][/quote]Before spouting such nonsense, please learn the difference between homophobia and transphobia and then people MIGHT treat your comments a little bit more seriously.Carol Uren

John Steed wrote:
yobbish drunken behaviour is not hate crime, its drunken yobbish behaviour simples.com however just because yobbish drunken behaviour is common place it does not mean its acceptable.

When yobbish, drunken behaviour turns into an attack when the perpetrator realises his victim is transgender, then yes, it is a hate crime as defined by law and will carry an increased tariff in any sentence handed down to the perpetrator when he is caught and brought to justice.

[quote][p][bold]John Steed[/bold] wrote:
yobbish drunken behaviour is not hate crime, its drunken yobbish behaviour simples.com however just because yobbish drunken behaviour is common place it does not mean its acceptable.[/p][/quote]When yobbish, drunken behaviour turns into an attack when the perpetrator realises his victim is transgender, then yes, it is a hate crime as defined by law and will carry an increased tariff in any sentence handed down to the perpetrator when he is caught and brought to justice.Carol Uren

ThinkBrighton wrote:
Does this lady carry a sign stating she is trans gender, if not, she was attacked by a drunken moron, don't try to let a background fact overtake the true crime.

Sometimes it is easy to spot someone who is transgender, especially if it's man-to-woman, so no sign is required! Plus it's clear from what the victim said that the assailant realised she was transgender!

[quote][p][bold]ThinkBrighton[/bold] wrote:
Does this lady carry a sign stating she is trans gender, if not, she was attacked by a drunken moron, don't try to let a background fact overtake the true crime.[/p][/quote]Sometimes it is easy to spot someone who is transgender, especially if it's man-to-woman, so no sign is required! Plus it's clear from what the victim said that the assailant realised she was transgender!KarenT

John Steed wrote:
yobbish drunken behaviour is not hate crime, its drunken yobbish behaviour simples.com however just because yobbish drunken behaviour is common place it does not mean its acceptable.

It IS a hate crime when threatening behaviour is exacerbated by someone's perceived ethnicity or sexuality, regardless of the fact that the assailant was a drunken yob. I see plenty of drunken yobs wandering around Brighton with their knuckles dragging behind them on any given night, but they (fortunately) seldom get in my face. Probably cuz I'm white and my sexuality is not ambiguous. I'm not a target!

jump to conclusions why dont you, the guy is described as drunk, he was taking a leak against a wall, he was remonstrated, apparently he then tried to ponce a cigarette, this is not hate crime, nor is calling someone, mate, love, duck, bruv or anything similar, why on the face of the report as published can hate crime be surmised, lets just stick with the facts drunken loutish behaviour,

[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]John Steed[/bold] wrote:
yobbish drunken behaviour is not hate crime, its drunken yobbish behaviour simples.com however just because yobbish drunken behaviour is common place it does not mean its acceptable.[/p][/quote]It IS a hate crime when threatening behaviour is exacerbated by someone's perceived ethnicity or sexuality, regardless of the fact that the assailant was a drunken yob. I see plenty of drunken yobs wandering around Brighton with their knuckles dragging behind them on any given night, but they (fortunately) seldom get in my face. Probably cuz I'm white and my sexuality is not ambiguous. I'm not a target![/p][/quote]jump to conclusions why dont you, the guy is described as drunk, he was taking a leak against a wall, he was remonstrated, apparently he then tried to ponce a cigarette, this is not hate crime, nor is calling someone, mate, love, duck, bruv or anything similar, why on the face of the report as published can hate crime be surmised, lets just stick with the facts drunken loutish behaviour,John Steed

John Steed wrote:
yobbish drunken behaviour is not hate crime, its drunken yobbish behaviour simples.com however just because yobbish drunken behaviour is common place it does not mean its acceptable.

It IS a hate crime when threatening behaviour is exacerbated by someone's perceived ethnicity or sexuality, regardless of the fact that the assailant was a drunken yob. I see plenty of drunken yobs wandering around Brighton with their knuckles dragging behind them on any given night, but they (fortunately) seldom get in my face. Probably cuz I'm white and my sexuality is not ambiguous. I'm not a target!

jump to conclusions why dont you, the guy is described as drunk, he was taking a leak against a wall, he was remonstrated, apparently he then tried to ponce a cigarette, this is not hate crime, nor is calling someone, mate, love, duck, bruv or anything similar, why on the face of the report as published can hate crime be surmised, lets just stick with the facts drunken loutish behaviour,

He first called her "luv" and then when he saw she was a transgender man to woman he called her "mate"! He clearly noticed! Besides, as has been said a hate crime is defined as such by the victim or people who witness it.... YOU WEREN'T THERE! If it were someone who's sexuality wasn't ambiguous I'm quite sure the drunk would've just let it go as she walked on by. Drunk and ignorant yobs commonly have a problem with homosexuals, transgenders and foreigners - fact. I have friends who are a lesbian couple (one is black) and boy do they get it in the neck every time they so much as hold hands! And the culprits are ALWAYS the same... drunk ignorant yobs. That's just the way it is. I wish they'd just get swept away with the rubbish when the street cleaners come every morning....

[quote][p][bold]John Steed[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]John Steed[/bold] wrote:
yobbish drunken behaviour is not hate crime, its drunken yobbish behaviour simples.com however just because yobbish drunken behaviour is common place it does not mean its acceptable.[/p][/quote]It IS a hate crime when threatening behaviour is exacerbated by someone's perceived ethnicity or sexuality, regardless of the fact that the assailant was a drunken yob. I see plenty of drunken yobs wandering around Brighton with their knuckles dragging behind them on any given night, but they (fortunately) seldom get in my face. Probably cuz I'm white and my sexuality is not ambiguous. I'm not a target![/p][/quote]jump to conclusions why dont you, the guy is described as drunk, he was taking a leak against a wall, he was remonstrated, apparently he then tried to ponce a cigarette, this is not hate crime, nor is calling someone, mate, love, duck, bruv or anything similar, why on the face of the report as published can hate crime be surmised, lets just stick with the facts drunken loutish behaviour,[/p][/quote]He first called her "luv" and then when he saw she was a transgender man to woman he called her "mate"! He clearly noticed! Besides, as has been said a hate crime is defined as such by the victim or people who witness it.... YOU WEREN'T THERE! If it were someone who's sexuality wasn't ambiguous I'm quite sure the drunk would've just let it go as she walked on by. Drunk and ignorant yobs commonly have a problem with homosexuals, transgenders and foreigners - fact. I have friends who are a lesbian couple (one is black) and boy do they get it in the neck every time they so much as hold hands! And the culprits are ALWAYS the same... drunk ignorant yobs. That's just the way it is. I wish they'd just get swept away with the rubbish when the street cleaners come every morning....KarenT

whoee! wrote:
He probably thought it was one of the ugly sisters escaped from a local pantomime.I should 'it' scared him to death in his drunken stupor lol hahahahahaha

God, people as revolting as you actually exist. Incredible. You're probably just bitter cuz you live in some hovel in Whitehawk or Moulsecoomb and most visible homosexuals or transgenders can afford lifestyles that the likes of you could only dream of... Sad little loser.

[quote][p][bold]whoee![/bold] wrote:
He probably thought it was one of the ugly sisters escaped from a local pantomime.I should 'it' scared him to death in his drunken stupor lol hahahahahaha[/p][/quote]God, people as revolting as you actually exist. Incredible. You're probably just bitter cuz you live in some hovel in Whitehawk or Moulsecoomb and most visible homosexuals or transgenders can afford lifestyles that the likes of you could only dream of... Sad little loser.KarenT

whoee! wrote:
He probably thought it was one of the ugly sisters escaped from a local pantomime.I should 'it' scared him to death in his drunken stupor lol hahahahahaha

God, people as revolting as you actually exist. Incredible. You're probably just bitter cuz you live in some hovel in Whitehawk or Moulsecoomb and most visible homosexuals or transgenders can afford lifestyles that the likes of you could only dream of... Sad little loser.

Isn't saying that people from Whitehawk and Moulscoomb live in hovels a "hate crime"? You are insulting a marginalised minority. To quote your own words - "A hate crime is defined as such by the victim or people who witness it". I've just witnessed what I consider a hate crime by you. People have been prosecuted for posting far less inflammatory stuff on Facebook and Twitter. Mind how you go.

[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]whoee![/bold] wrote:
He probably thought it was one of the ugly sisters escaped from a local pantomime.I should 'it' scared him to death in his drunken stupor lol hahahahahaha[/p][/quote]God, people as revolting as you actually exist. Incredible. You're probably just bitter cuz you live in some hovel in Whitehawk or Moulsecoomb and most visible homosexuals or transgenders can afford lifestyles that the likes of you could only dream of... Sad little loser.[/p][/quote]Isn't saying that people from Whitehawk and Moulscoomb live in hovels a "hate crime"? You are insulting a marginalised minority. To quote your own words - "A hate crime is defined as such by the victim or people who witness it". I've just witnessed what I consider a hate crime by you. People have been prosecuted for posting far less inflammatory stuff on Facebook and Twitter. Mind how you go.PorkBoat

whoee! wrote:
He probably thought it was one of the ugly sisters escaped from a local pantomime.I should 'it' scared him to death in his drunken stupor lol hahahahahaha

God, people as revolting as you actually exist. Incredible. You're probably just bitter cuz you live in some hovel in Whitehawk or Moulsecoomb and most visible homosexuals or transgenders can afford lifestyles that the likes of you could only dream of... Sad little loser.

Hark at 'her' hahahahaha boy the truth hurts lol

[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]whoee![/bold] wrote:
He probably thought it was one of the ugly sisters escaped from a local pantomime.I should 'it' scared him to death in his drunken stupor lol hahahahahaha[/p][/quote]God, people as revolting as you actually exist. Incredible. You're probably just bitter cuz you live in some hovel in Whitehawk or Moulsecoomb and most visible homosexuals or transgenders can afford lifestyles that the likes of you could only dream of... Sad little loser.[/p][/quote]Hark at 'her' hahahahaha boy the truth hurts lolwhoee!

whoee! wrote:
He probably thought it was one of the ugly sisters escaped from a local pantomime.I should 'it' scared him to death in his drunken stupor lol hahahahahaha

God, people as revolting as you actually exist. Incredible. You're probably just bitter cuz you live in some hovel in Whitehawk or Moulsecoomb and most visible homosexuals or transgenders can afford lifestyles that the likes of you could only dream of... Sad little loser.

Isn't saying that people from Whitehawk and Moulscoomb live in hovels a &quot;hate crime"? You are insulting a marginalised minority. To quote your own words - "A hate crime is defined as such by the victim or people who witness it". I've just witnessed what I consider a hate crime by you. People have been prosecuted for posting far less inflammatory stuff on Facebook and Twitter. Mind how you go.

So you live there too then?

[quote][p][bold]PorkBoat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]whoee![/bold] wrote:
He probably thought it was one of the ugly sisters escaped from a local pantomime.I should 'it' scared him to death in his drunken stupor lol hahahahahaha[/p][/quote]God, people as revolting as you actually exist. Incredible. You're probably just bitter cuz you live in some hovel in Whitehawk or Moulsecoomb and most visible homosexuals or transgenders can afford lifestyles that the likes of you could only dream of... Sad little loser.[/p][/quote]Isn't saying that people from Whitehawk and Moulscoomb live in hovels a "hate crime"? You are insulting a marginalised minority. To quote your own words - "A hate crime is defined as such by the victim or people who witness it". I've just witnessed what I consider a hate crime by you. People have been prosecuted for posting far less inflammatory stuff on Facebook and Twitter. Mind how you go.[/p][/quote]So you live there too then?KarenT