Google Nexus One Sales Bombing -- Only 80,000 Sold After A Monthhttp://www.businessinsider.com/nexus-one-sales-bombing-only-80000-sold-after-a-month-2010-2/comments
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I had my Nexus One that I bought directly from Google for three weeks now and I simply love this phone. What do I love about the phone? Never mind that it's the fastest phone on the market or it's integration with google maps. I love that it's unlocked and I'm using it on my old contract that I'm paying $10.00/month for an extra phone. No outrageous two year contracts for me!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b969afb7f8b9a5f43350000ReddyTue, 09 Mar 2010 14:01:15 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b969afb7f8b9a5f43350000
I do not understand why people think of Google Trying new phone as a greedy event ?
- Assume for a second there was no Android existed, in 2010/2011 Christmas shopping season what is the price of a smart phone ? I would say atleast $200 with 2 year contract with APPLE and Microsoft , NOKIA being the players.
- Now comes to the real scenario where we have android , what would be price of smart phone with 2 year contract in 2010 DECEMBER ( or 2011 JUNE ). I would bet it will be FREE with 2 year contract . why free see details below.
Microsoft is getting ready with windows 7 and they will subsidise $100 per phone , say if you take 10 million phone that is $1 Billion subsidy, they need to do it to Limit the IPHONE, ANDROID phones market domination ( hence limiting future Mobile Ad/search revenue ).
Once microsoft did that APPLE and GOOGLE need to follow it by spending at least 50% of what is Microsoft is subidizing that is $500 million each as phone subsidies.
Who is winning with all these phone price subsidies , CONSUMER . Do you think Microsoft, APPLE will do that if there is no ANDROID ? I do not think so ..
Look at the big picture of ANDROID , lot of Asian countries they get free Mobile OS and can offer cheaper $100 smart phone in those countries ..http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b9695ff7f8b9a9f2a400400ReddyTue, 09 Mar 2010 13:39:59 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b9695ff7f8b9a9f2a400400
@Iceman , you exactly nailed the actual usage of a smart phone.
yes most of us have Wifi at Home, work , coffeeshops and Gym all free. These are the places we spend 70% of the Time, that is good % to have connected to Internet.
- everybody has life to takecare of other things for remaining 30% of the Time.
- many people are not used to syncying all email when WIFI is available as FREE , but once people learn this technique nobody will be on DATA plans
- these DATA plan prices are outrageous. Other trend I see will be coming is people in a family of 2 to 3 phones all they need is Family plan of $50 + $10 + $10 ( 50 primary phone , 10 each for 2 additional phones ) , and use FREE wifi with all 3 SMART phoneshttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b70368800000000009404e0FML for your school ->Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:06:32 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b70368800000000009404e0
Selling it online will be an asset in the future though, especially for generation like me who is used to doing everything online, from shopping to buying stock to doing taxes to whatever...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6fed030000000000d755f7StefanMon, 08 Feb 2010 05:52:51 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6fed030000000000d755f7
exactly these are unsubsidized handsets! with gross margins in the 100-200 USD range. that's a nice months work clearing 8M - 16M.... with not shipment costs.
the only cost of sales really was the website....http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6f3e1b00000000005c1fcaiPhonedSun, 07 Feb 2010 17:26:34 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6f3e1b00000000005c1fca
I thought it was supposed to be an iPhone killer, not a phone that would make people say the iPhone is Killer!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6dec4f0000000000b600ddgordoSat, 06 Feb 2010 17:25:19 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6dec4f0000000000b600dd
Oops. Bad math. Only, $42,320,000 in one month. My bad.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6deb930000000000c35f6cgordoSat, 06 Feb 2010 17:22:11 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6deb930000000000c35f6c
$46,320,000 in one month. Chump change. At this rate they will only do half a billion in revenue this year.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6d8b980000000000f52e7fdlaciv12Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:32:40 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6d8b980000000000f52e7f
140,000 apps of fart noises and hot chicks in bikini's are very important. Right now my Nexus One makes so few fart noises... It really has been a disappointment. And I still need to use my PC for porn, I guess I really should return the phone and drink the iphone Kool-Aid like everyone else.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6d8af20000000000fe076cdlaciv12Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:29:54 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6d8af20000000000fe076c
No advertising, only available through the google store w/ google "check out" and intermittent connectivity problems and they still sold 80,000 and this is a flop?! No other product has ever been offered this way and they still sold 80,000 units that cost most people $530 + tax.
Is the Apple Kool-Aid that yummy?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6d7c300000000000707e66lrdSat, 06 Feb 2010 09:26:56 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6d7c300000000000707e66
Guys-
Google shelled out $750 million for AdMob; hasn't made a penny from a Android phone yet, and isn't making any money from the app store.
Apple on the other hand is making over $4 Billion a quarter from the iPhone! Has $40B in cash equivalents and out the gate has a huge lead- see above.
All Apple has to do is pull another Flash on Google and a substantial part of Google's mobile ad strategy goes out the window in a flash- no pun intended. Apple's reasoning is going to be simple, they don't advertise on the Android platform, why should they ket AdMob advertise on theirs?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6d39e300000000000f5d68BioGeekSat, 06 Feb 2010 04:44:03 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6d39e300000000000f5d68
It doesn't matter, really. These aren't real sales numbers, just a projection from a tracker. It gives a bare idea but can be totally wrong.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6d231400000000002f83e7parv Sat, 06 Feb 2010 03:06:44 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6d231400000000002f83e7
do those numbers include the phones that were given to google employees? If yes then u cannot include them as being sold.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6cb14500000000003c06c5lrdFri, 05 Feb 2010 19:01:09 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6cb14500000000003c06c5
@Benji:
Apple 140,000 apps; 75 Million iphones & ipod touches; 250 million ipods; 12 Billion downloads!
Goggle: 20,000 apps; Don't know how many Android phones?
Google's going to need a whole lot more developershttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6ca9a6000000000066ad30BenjiFri, 05 Feb 2010 18:28:38 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6ca9a6000000000066ad30
You must be joking. Google hasn't even scratched the surface of its earning power. They will be the first trillion dollar company. The have tens of thousands of developers working on products that will make a fortune. Unfortunately they have to do the work for other industries (like mobile) as well because they look at all the idiots out there. The will move into every major piece of daily infrastructure and make money on it. Apple is beautiful but very niche.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6ca6630000000000eec8f7lrdFri, 05 Feb 2010 18:14:43 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6ca6630000000000eec8f7
Dude-
You don't get it.
Steve Jobs' intent by jumping into the Mobile Ads market is to make sure that Google's growth plan is
cut short and they won't have 5 years; they better do something spectacular this year.
If Apple's able to cut them off at the pass, with the iPAD, the iPhone & the iPOD Touch, Google stock will take a 30% nose dive this year alone.
Mr. Helmet Schmidt ****ed with the wrong dude. And the starters better take their money and run; while they can.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6ca39f0000000000c4c0b0BenjiFri, 05 Feb 2010 18:02:55 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6ca39f0000000000c4c0b0
You guys all said the same thing when Android was released. You all said it's half baked, it won't get traction etc, so I take the collective opinion on the Nexus One distribution model with a grain of salt. Google is a long term player, with 5 years of thinking in advance. This is just the start as was the G1...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6ca2660000000000d49c02lrdFri, 05 Feb 2010 17:57:41 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6ca2660000000000d49c02
And get this: If you return the Nexus One, because you can't get 3G service, or can't get help or because it's basically clunky software surrounding by nice looking plastic, you need buyout the provider and pay Google the full $599 for the phone!
That's like close to $800!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c9ef1000000000083be23lrdFri, 05 Feb 2010 17:42:56 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c9ef1000000000083be23
OMG! What lame engineers at Google & HTC!
What the movie clip should say is: We copied Apple as much as we could and then added a little crap so that we wouldn't be accused of copying verbatim.
Lame, lame, lame. Google follows, Apple leads!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c9ba800000000009ec4b7RyanFri, 05 Feb 2010 17:28:56 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c9ba800000000009ec4b7
Apple didn't have this problem. You guys are over-playing Google's problems.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c9b330000000000cebaa6RyanFri, 05 Feb 2010 17:26:59 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c9b330000000000cebaa6
Its bad because Google's approach is failing. This simply proves that the channel partners are important. Google sought to prove the opposite.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c9a2b0000000000ccc2e1RyanFri, 05 Feb 2010 17:22:32 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c9a2b0000000000ccc2e1
This says something about the company behind the phone. So many people say its the best phone they have owned, yet Google can't capitalize on it. Google needs to understand what they are, and do that. Producing and marketing consumer devices is not their sweet spot.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c99300000000000ff4781IcemanFri, 05 Feb 2010 17:18:24 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c99300000000000ff4781
word!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c8ad40000000000224bf2GeoffreyFri, 05 Feb 2010 16:17:07 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c8ad40000000000224bf2
@ru: Interesting point.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c87ac0000000000213b54tombaFri, 05 Feb 2010 16:03:40 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c87ac0000000000213b54
wow that's such a good idea.... i wish they had the iphone in high school when i was picking my nose and scratching my ass while all the cool kids scored mad honeys....now i own a blackberry - i wonder what category that puts me...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c7d0f000000000049819fFredZFri, 05 Feb 2010 15:18:23 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c7d0f000000000049819f
Distribution model is in doubt. The proof will be when Verizon stores/website start selling them.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c79f00000000000ec52d0David FanoFri, 05 Feb 2010 15:05:04 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c79f00000000000ec52d0
If i could walk into a t-mobile and buy one i would have done it the week it came out. Not that on-line is tricky, i just want to see it before i buy it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c796000000000000a0c27dugFri, 05 Feb 2010 15:02:40 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c796000000000000a0c27
it's because people can't get out of their @#%! contracts. This will grow over time.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c76c80000000000e117f1random userFri, 05 Feb 2010 14:51:36 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c76c80000000000e117f1
Nexus One didn't have any of the traditional marketing but they were featured on Google's home page. That is exposure that you can't buy.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c759b0000000000b27641Lucky JimFri, 05 Feb 2010 14:46:35 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c759b0000000000b27641
TOTALLY! I bought an iPhone only because I wasn't even close to my friends in terms of coolness. Now I feel I am a much cooler person.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c6efb00000000007c9b26RyanFri, 05 Feb 2010 14:18:19 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c6efb00000000007c9b26
The price isn't bad if you sell your iPhone to pay for it :-)
Not much direct marketing either...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c6cbc00000000005e169fIcemanFri, 05 Feb 2010 14:08:44 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c6cbc00000000005e169f
I have an iPhone with the top of the line data plan. I've used it a million times a day, had it since the iP came out. And I still need it. If I need to read email or surf or googlemap something in the car or in some non-wifi location, I use the iP (provided ***cough*** 3G is working in that area. If I get kicked over to Edge, which is frequent, I'm effecitively offline due to the data transfer speed).
I find, now, that the data plan isn't the constraining thing for me on the Nexus. If it was, I'd probably get the T-Mo data plan. Pinch-zoom is now there so that inconvenience is gone. The main reason I can't use the Nexus instead of the iPhone all the time not because I can't put the ATT SIM in the Nexus, or that I'm too cheap to get another data plan, it is because reading excel, ppt, cutting and pasting text and arguably typing are not good enough yet for me to dump the iPhone.
So for now I am carrying both. I take all my calls, listen to music, and take all my pictures on the Nexus. And since I am into the astro thing, I use skymap on the Nexus- which is fantastic and maybe my favorite thing about it. Camera is really good too. I also use it as a "thumb drive", for shuffling files around (from home to work etc).http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c6c6400000000004cfd37Zac BlodgetFri, 05 Feb 2010 14:07:15 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c6c6400000000004cfd37
I've always thought that the purpose of the Nexus One was to "advance" the specs of the android platform. With the exception of the Droid, all android phones prior had suffered from a pretty tired hardware platform, especially in comparison with the iphone. The motorola cliq and the htc hero both use a processor that's several years old.
By releasing a piece of reference hardware, google can showcase new features to android as well as keep the hardware manufacturers on their toes.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c60cd000000000027811dRattyUKFri, 05 Feb 2010 13:17:48 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c60cd000000000027811d
Question is will this sort of news damage sales further?
Android phones will sell because companies that want to make a smartphone have the ability to use Google to create cheap smartphones. This will further dilute the market to the point where the iPhones share is much smaller. However the iPhones profitability will remain. The iPhone will appear to lose market share while Apple actually sell far more phones.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c5cd800000000008f1545shaFri, 05 Feb 2010 13:00:56 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c5cd800000000008f1545
"But it's an early indication that this whole "revolutionize everything about the mobile business" idea may be yet another Google pipe dream."
Can you name an online store who has sold that much phones (single model) in a month ?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c5a7600000000000f2451bernie lomaxFri, 05 Feb 2010 12:50:46 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c5a7600000000000f2451
The headline is amazing sensational.
No marketing for this. 0 TV ads. They are selling it direct (unlike any others). What did you expect? The second coming of Christ?
The phone is great. My iPhone has been sitting on my desk for the past 2 months quite happily. Sure, there are some downsides but overall I've been very pleased with my switch. And DoubleTwist for music / video syncing is a snap.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c57c900000000001bb136Huntley BrinkleyFri, 05 Feb 2010 12:39:21 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c57c900000000001bb136
Outside of search and advertising, Google hasn't had many really big successes. There's Gmail (launched a loooong time ago, in internet terms) and the Chrome browser is looking promising, but the rest of their initiatives have fallen flat.
As more and more connected lifestyle devices show up (iPhone, iPad, connected TVs, Xbox) their traditional search/ad business is going to be under considerable pressure. They need some big hits soon.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c575a000000000035ae21Gregor Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:37:30 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c575a000000000035ae21
They can work on the marketing (they need to) but T-Mobile is great. I get just under 1mbps per second and no 10mb cap for 3g downloads. Plus on unlocked phones partners can get unlimited text, data and voice minutes for $140 pm which is what I paid for myself on Att for the iphone. With those savings you can buy 2 nexus ones in one year (iPhone is not free) and not have any etf fees.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c573b0000000000815778gFri, 05 Feb 2010 12:36:59 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c573b0000000000815778
im sorry, but what?
that sounds absolutely awful.
have you ever had a smartphone with a data plan before?
i would go insane if I had your setup.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c55900000000000dc1af0IcemanFri, 05 Feb 2010 12:29:52 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c55900000000000dc1af0
I got an unlocked Nexus the day they were available. I use an ATT SIM card (taken from another phone I have)for calls. For data, I rely on wifi only - (which is no prob for me, I have wifi access at work, home, coffeee shop, gym). I'm cheap, is the main reason why I didn't get a data plan.
In this "non-data plan" config I can still use the device in a lot of useful ways:
Phone calls
Text Messages
Music
Camera (nice camera!)
Note taking
SkyMap for startgazing (this uses GPS, data plan isn't required)
...and then I can sync my email whenever I walk by a wifi hotspot. It's kind of nice not always being chained to email, but still having all of the above useful stuff in my pocket.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c53c200000000006aaae0peterFri, 05 Feb 2010 12:22:10 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c53c200000000006aaae0
in general, google has lots of cash.
alocating capital properly is quite a different thing.
could they just stick with search? they have not dominated all world markets in that yet.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c538a0000000000564334Evan GageFri, 05 Feb 2010 12:21:13 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c538a0000000000564334
Wait dont you think 80000 isnt bad for a phone thats:
Only available on Tmobile
Only available through online sales
And has a "high price tag"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c52ec00000000006c268fEvan GageFri, 05 Feb 2010 12:18:36 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c52ec00000000006c268f
i dont know how online sales is a problem it was super simple to buy and i got over night shipping for free. The 3g on it is full all the time and it works perfectly. They just gave us multi touch. I think you guys should own one before you actually critique something. I get service all the time. Anything is better then crap att. And sorry but verizon and att prices are just stupid expensive. Why am i going to pay 40 bucks for internet on a phone. thats just dumb. And att service is a joke. Whatever i'll be happy with my phone. Thats all that matters.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c516d0000000000df20ddEvan GageFri, 05 Feb 2010 12:12:12 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c516d0000000000df20dd
its actually the best phone i have ever owned.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c4af20000000000683f59freddy beeFri, 05 Feb 2010 11:44:34 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c4af20000000000683f59
You've missed on other major issue. georgraphy. I'd grab one of these if i could run it in Canada - even if it was unlocked. unfortunately, i can't order one, and even if i could, the wireless network i'm on wouldn't support this device - it'll need to support a different network in order to work correctly...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c4acf00000000009c5837Sylvain AllardFri, 05 Feb 2010 11:43:59 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c4acf00000000009c5837
Google means search.
That being said, it's worrying that pseudo-genius-Schmidt is destroying the brand.
After all they know better than anyone else. It's the same old pattern again: Success leads to arrogance and arrogance leads to failure.
The only thing the Nexus One will change is people's perception of Google: a greedy-dead-beat company with armies of people full of themselves.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c4a4e00000000001c7f71tim.hobbesFri, 05 Feb 2010 11:41:50 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c4a4e00000000001c7f71
Fair enough. I'll stop.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c4a360000000000739a64GVA_CHFri, 05 Feb 2010 11:41:26 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c4a360000000000739a64
Release it to EU countries with intact buying power... Thinking Switzerland, France and Germany...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c49bf00000000001d663ehelloFri, 05 Feb 2010 11:39:27 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c49bf00000000001d663e
you are pushing the pro-android thing a little bit too much on this site buddy.
you need to chill out because I am pretty much tuning you out completely and I know I am not alone.
it is clear you are way out of touch with reality and you dont even consider the other side to things.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c49660000000000703581georgeFri, 05 Feb 2010 11:37:58 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c49660000000000703581
out of the people I know..
those will the iphone tend to be cooler and more popular
droid - pretty much labeled as "losers"
nexus one - pretty much labeled as "nerds"http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c495e00000000004fff8aKevinFri, 05 Feb 2010 11:37:50 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c495e00000000004fff8a
It's funny how seriously you take things about a phone OS from a company called "Google".http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c493100000000000ededdtim.hobbesFri, 05 Feb 2010 11:37:05 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c493100000000000ededd
"The loser here so far is HTC, which probably could have shipped a lot more of this"
I have no doubt that the Nexus One will be available through traditional channels this year.
"Still, hard to see any other handset makers giving Google an exclusive [...]"
Motorola will make the Nexus Two.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c48950000000000fabe9eHenry BlodgetFri, 05 Feb 2010 11:34:29 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c48950000000000fabe9e
The big problems are:
* T-Mobile
* Online sales only
* The price
But it's an early indication that this whole "revolutionize everything about the mobile business" idea may be yet another Google pipe dream.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c485300000000009484d7tim.hobbesFri, 05 Feb 2010 11:33:23 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c485300000000009484d7
Funny how seriously people take data from a company called "Flurry analytics". Btw, I've heard that their competitor (called Fluffy Media or something) reported Droid sales in the order of 3 million for the end of the year, but it was based in actual sales data and not weird spyware-based guesses.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c482100000000005a6540Dan FrommerFri, 05 Feb 2010 11:32:33 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c482100000000005a6540
It's going to take a long time before Google can sell a lot of phones this way. Most people are on contracts with other carriers, and most people will not spend $500+ for an unlocked phone. That said, if Google really thinks it can disrupt the carriers after several years, it should probably continue this technique (perhaps with increased customer service).
The loser here so far is HTC, which probably could have shipped a lot more of this -- its best phone -- using standard channels. But my hunch is that a similar HTC phone will be shipping sooner than later in traditional channels, so not a huge long-term loss.
Still, hard to see any other handset makers giving Google an exclusive on their best phones when they could sell a LOT more of them through carriers.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c48110000000000611158farkis NemahFri, 05 Feb 2010 11:32:17 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b6c48110000000000611158
what a fugly phone