Out of your answering it seems you make a distinguishment between 'the ones who do get along with one another' and 'the ones who don't'...

It may seem that way, but it was not directed at anyone in particular.

dilaram wrote:

This character Dilaram is constructed so that when it encounters hypocrisy and 'secret/indirect attacks to its person' and sometimes not so 'secret', then it reacts...as you react by 'threatening' to close the forum or ban me from it to then have to come back on your decission

There is no ‘having to come back on my decision’. The people you feel attacked you were the same people that liked you enough to vote you back in.

dilaram wrote:

You know very VERY well that this character Dil doesn't want to 'attack' or 'chase away' some other characters.

I believe that this is true, but also that you can sometimes ‘dish it out’ but find it hard ‘to take it’.

dilaram wrote:

It simply wants to express itself in a peaceful way, but when it is attacked with the nastiest insults as it is done before more than once by Makara and Aquarius (if you don't believe it, reread some posts from beginning August), it simply responds in the same way!

Yes, there was arguing and there was making up. Why go back to it now? I saw some very nice words to you as well. I know that I did not intend to single you out in my answer as a ‘trouble maker’ but somehow you seem to feel that I was. Sometimes you may be right about such things, some times not.. It can happen to anyone.

dilaram wrote:

The peace talked about in Nonduality is NOT the new age-like peace of little birds tweeting, sunrises, fluffy clouds, and sweet words and angels singing.

True.... but nor does it exclude it.

dilaram wrote:

If you want a forum in this way, you may close it right away from my part, I'm not interested at all in that sort of setting.

And I understand, but if we can avoid making a discussion into arguing or an argument into a brawl it would be appreciated by this character, That’s how the Leo character likes to run this forum.

As the French proverb goes: C'est le ton qui fait la musique. (It's the tone that makes the music.)

dilaram wrote:

I love Nisargadatta for his rude character and his straightness. Some would interprete it as 'egotripping' and 'brutality', 'un-enlightenedness'; and many walked out of his little room or were thrown out by him! I love his irreverence, his smoking, although I can't stand smoke, his shouting at times...I love it because it is such a beautiful contrast with all those 'saint-like non-dual guru's''. Exactly the guy I had to meet to see that I was okay the way I am as everything is.

OK, but let’s not equate being rude with being honest. One can be also rude and paranoid or gentle yet true. All kinds of combinations are possible.

dilaram wrote:

Everything is ONE, and I will continue to argue against persons who try to convince you from the opposite, if I have the feeling there is a little chance for 'openness', especially on a Nondualityforum...

And how is that working out? There is something inherently comic about this. Arguing itself takes at least two, but here it is applied to assert Oneness….

From Self to Self with a wink and a smile.

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Yes, there was arguing and there was making up. Why go back to it now? I saw some very nice words to you as well. I know that I did not intend to single you out in my answer as a ‘trouble maker’ but somehow you seem to feel that I was. Sometimes you may be right about such things, some times not.. It can happen to anyone.

Of course I seem to feel that you were because you already let me know that I was harsh on Aquarius and that I was trying to hurt her in your eyes, but you seem to have closed your eyes for her insults thrown at me...perhaps because 'she was a mother who lives alone'...In the end it was you, not the members who banned me because I said I really could give you a hard time...Who is the 'harsh one'? The one who 'barks' (in tune or out of tune) or the one who 'silences' someone?

As the Dutch proverb goes: 'Dogs who bark don't bite...'

awakening wrote:

True.... but nor does it exclude it.

That Peace doesn't exclude anything.

awakening wrote:

OK, but let’s not equate being rude with being honest. One can be also rude and paranoid or gentle yet true. All kinds of combinations are possible.

I was honest as hell, I see a lot of myself in Nisargadatta, the smoking excluded...but ok, all that is relative...what is honesty?

If you don't like my appearance or the 'tone' of my music, you may always say it...but: 'How to argue about colours and tastes?'

Saying you like my left hand but not my right hand seems absurd to me...or do you believe this character 'Dilaram' is a 'self-made-man'?...the 'author' of his deeds?

awakening wrote:

but also that you can sometimes ‘dish it out’ but find it hard ‘to take it’.

When someone like Anna criticizes me for writing clichés she gets it back that she is a cliché herself, when someone like Libra criticizes me for being a parrot, she gets it back that she doesn't do anything else but parrotting...and I can continue with makara or Aqua, etc...those are the people who liked me enough that they voted me back in...be sure, I can take in, but what goes in must come out!

I know I am not a 'saint' and I don't pretend to be one.
I am who I am, I'm rowing with the oars life gave me, as everyone does, appreciate me or just say that I must leave.

awakening wrote:

And I understand, but if we can avoid making a discussion...

How to 'avoid' the 'Unavoidable'?

awakening wrote:

And how is that working out? There is something inherently comic about this. Arguing itself takes at least two, but here it is applied to assert Oneness….

From Self to Self with a wink and a smile.

This forum is the most absurd and the most important thing happening One could imagine...

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