Summary: Racial segregation is declining, but it remains higher for families with children than those without, a new study shows. Race appears to be a ‘proxy’ for school quality for many white families with children as they decide where and in which school districts they want to live, suggests a new report.

White families with children continue to live in predominantly white neighborhoods, in part to send their children to predominantly white schools, according to a new study on racial segregation in 100 metropolitan areas.

“Neighborhood racial segregation has been in decline since the 1970s, but my findings show it declined more slowly among families with kids,” said USC Assistant Professor Ann Owens, who analyzed 2010 and 2000 U.S. Census data to examine racial segregation trends.

“This means that children are surrounded by greater racial homogeneity in their neighborhoods than adults,” added Owens, a sociologist at the USC Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences. “A lack of diversity could have a significant effect on the development of their racial attitudes and future education and employment.”

In neighborhoods, housing and urban policies have been key for curbing segregation, she said. The Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing rule of 2015, for example, reiterated the aims of the Fair Housing Act of 1968, requiring municipalities that receive federal housing funds to conduct fair housing assessments.

“The progress made in integrating neighborhoods could be thwarted by policies or policymakers’ efforts to dismantle these efforts,” she said.

Has Trump dumped Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing yet? Maybe he doesn’t want to have to try to say those four words out loud without sounding like Daffy Duck.

… Owens found that neighborhood racial segregation across the country appeared to be driven largely by white families with children who are choosing, consciously or not, to move to neighborhoods and school districts with fewer minorities.

Although segregation has declined overall, it remains a concern, Owens said, because segregation can be detrimental for child wellbeing. Scientific research has shown that low-income and minority children who grow up in segregated neighborhoods and attend segregated schools have worse educational and economic outcomes than children in more integrated areas. High levels of residential segregation have been linked to lower levels of income mobility across generations.

It’s almost as if growing up around white children is a valuable amenity that thoughtful parents will scrimp and save to provide their children with.

Among the 100 largest metropolitan areas, Los Angeles has one of the highest rates of segregation between white and Latino children, even after adjusting for the large Latino child population in Los Angeles, Owens said.

In 2010, Latino children, on average, lived in Los Angeles neighborhoods where 75 percent of the children in their neighborhood were also Latino and 9 percent were white.

It’s almost as if Los Angeles has plumb run out of white children to bestow upon Latinos as classmates, with white students in LAUSD numbering only 9.8%.

White children lived in Los Angeles neighborhoods where, on average, 32 percent of the children in their neighborhood were Latino and 46 percent were white. The racial makeup of the neighborhoods did not reflect Los Angeles County’s demographic composition of 61 percent Latino and 17 percent white among school-age children.

That suggests about 40% of white children in Los Angeles go to private schools or are home schooled. One public school with a decent reputation in Los Angeles recently had its budget cut for attracting a student body that had crept up to being a little over 30% white. It’s kind of hard to attract white students and their Magic Dirt to help integrate Los Angeles public schools when you punish the schools for being less than 70% nonwhite. (The school responded by blaming Trump for parents marking their children down as white instead of a more budgetarily privileged race, and vowed to bully more mixed ethnicity couples into declaring their children nonwhite.)

“If segregation were not occurring, then all children would live in neighborhoods and attend school in districts with this majority Latino, minority white ratio,” Owens said.

Owens said like the neighborhoods, school districts in Los Angeles County also do not reflect the county’s demographic makeup.

For example, the Los Angeles Unified School District student body in 2010 was majority-minority, with 74 percent Latino and 9 percent white. The ratio differed significantly from the largely-white Beverly Hills Unified School District, (5 percent Latino and 74 percent white) …

Have I ever mentioned Beverly Hills before in my blog? It seems like I must have brought up Beverly Hills once or twice before over the years. Somebody was asking me lately why I am like I am, and I suspect growing up on the wrong side of the hills from Beverly Hills was an eye-opening experience.

Miami is similar to Los Angeles in demographic makeup. Even so, it had a lower level of segregation between white and Latino children.

It’s almost as if Miami has different kinds of Latinos than Los Angeles does.

… Families with children appear more concerned about what school district their neighborhood is linked to, and they may even consider race as a factor, Owens said.

“White parents may be avoiding school districts where black and Latino children live because they use racial composition as a proxy for quality of a school and a neighborhood,” she said.

Or vice-versa.

Minority families may have different priorities in deciding where to live, Owens suggested as explanations for the differences between households. …

“Minority parents also may evaluate schools differently than white parents and prefer schools where their children are not the minority,” Owens wrote.

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Actually, your point that Miami has different sorts of Latinos suggests these families are more concerned with school quality than racial composition per se–they’re not fleeing the Cubans as much. Are Cubans paler (at least the ones over here)? Sure. They don’t go to quite as much trouble to avoid Asians, though, so clearly it’s not as much pro-white as anti-people-going-to-beat-my-kids-up-and-act-out-in-class.

It’s hard to learn if your kids are getting beat up every day, and it has all sorts of negative effects later in life.

(FWIW, my racial cynicism can be largely attributed to growing up in NYC in the 80s and 90s. Oh look, we elected the tough-on-crime mayor and the city rebounded!)

"Science Discovers: 'White Families with Children Drawn to Less Diverse Neighborhoods, Schools'"

It's almost as though reproductive success and the survival instinct go hand-in-hand. Every time I hear a SJW whine that the right is anti-science I want to gobsmack it. (And yes, I meant to say, "it.")

Don't Miami Cubans have their own (largely criollo) aristocracy in South Florida? Of course, Cubans in South Florida precede the arrival of exiles - I think at one point Key West was majority Cuban at least sometime around the Spanish American War. Anyway, the original exiles were disproportionately the existing Cuban aristocracy (my friend's Cuban father was a boy being educated at a European boarding school in '59 notoriously unable ever to return to his home on a large sugar plantation near Cienfuegos and landed in New Jersey). They outperform non-Hispanic whites in many measures of well-being and success, so it's no wonder you wouldn't mind your above average kid going to school with well-behaved, well-dressed, clean and respectful Cubans from well off families, whereas you might not feel the same way about poor Puerto Ricans or Columbians.

In addition to a reduction in crime, a major factor in attracting and keeping whites in NYC was the restructuring of the public school system. Mayor Michael Bloomberg shut down many of the large dysfunctional high schools and replaced them with smaller schools including five more exam-only specialized high schools.

There are now over 400 public high schools in NYC plus several gifted and talented programs for elementary and middle school children.

The recent HBO documentary, "Class Divide", told the stories of children living in lower Manhattan's Chelsea-Elliott projects and the children attending the $40,000 a year private school, Avenues, across the street. Blacks and Hispanics were shown in public school and whites in private school. The film focused on the fact that none of the project children attended Avenues even though financial aid had been set aside for them -- none qualified academically.

What the documentary left out was that the public school that the project children attended was half white and Asian, but the whites and Asians are in the school's gifted program, which the project children did not qualify for either.

Actually, your point that Miami has different sorts of Latinos suggests these families are more concerned with school quality than racial composition per se--they're not fleeing the Cubans as much. Are Cubans paler (at least the ones over here)? Sure. They don't go to quite as much trouble to avoid Asians, though, so clearly it's not as much pro-white as anti-people-going-to-beat-my-kids-up-and-act-out-in-class.

It's hard to learn if your kids are getting beat up every day, and it has all sorts of negative effects later in life.

(FWIW, my racial cynicism can be largely attributed to growing up in NYC in the 80s and 90s. Oh look, we elected the tough-on-crime mayor and the city rebounded!)

“Science Discovers: ‘White Families with Children Drawn to Less Diverse Neighborhoods, Schools’”

It’s almost as though reproductive success and the survival instinct go hand-in-hand. Every time I hear a SJW whine that the right is anti-science I want to gobsmack it. (And yes, I meant to say, “it.”)

Minority families may have different priorities in deciding where to live, Owens suggested as explanations for the differences between households. …

“Minority parents also may evaluate schools differently than white parents and prefer schools where their children are not the minority,” Owens wrote.

I need to stop reading these things at breakfast, I nearly choked on my Raisin Bran. Doesn’t the speaker or reporter realize that it’s exactly the same motivation…not to have your kids be in the minority at their school?

“Minority parents also may evaluate schools differently than white parents and prefer schools where their children are not the minority,” Owens wrote.

Quite possibly, minority parents also prefer whiter schools, the whiter the better. Then, it would just be that they prefer those schools but aren't willing to pay *as much* of a premium as white parents.

Has Trump dumped Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing yet? Maybe he doesn’t want to have to try to say those four words out loud without sounding like Daffy Duck

Haha, sorry, just got round to reading the whole thing. I never had sounded out “Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing” in my head, as my brain would glaze over when I saw this next in another F.U- white people Feral Gov’t program. You’re gonna sound like Daffy Duck saying it, you’re right! Funny stuff, Steve.

Trump doesn’t have to say anything – he needs to take care of all the low-hanging fruit* that is totally his purview (?) as executive of the admin. branch. “Just start doing stuff and quit getting distracted by the Lyin’ Press BS!”, I would like to tell him. He really seems to get distracted easily.

Actually, your point that Miami has different sorts of Latinos suggests these families are more concerned with school quality than racial composition per se--they're not fleeing the Cubans as much. Are Cubans paler (at least the ones over here)? Sure. They don't go to quite as much trouble to avoid Asians, though, so clearly it's not as much pro-white as anti-people-going-to-beat-my-kids-up-and-act-out-in-class.

It's hard to learn if your kids are getting beat up every day, and it has all sorts of negative effects later in life.

(FWIW, my racial cynicism can be largely attributed to growing up in NYC in the 80s and 90s. Oh look, we elected the tough-on-crime mayor and the city rebounded!)

Don’t Miami Cubans have their own (largely criollo) aristocracy in South Florida? Of course, Cubans in South Florida precede the arrival of exiles – I think at one point Key West was majority Cuban at least sometime around the Spanish American War. Anyway, the original exiles were disproportionately the existing Cuban aristocracy (my friend’s Cuban father was a boy being educated at a European boarding school in ’59 notoriously unable ever to return to his home on a large sugar plantation near Cienfuegos and landed in New Jersey). They outperform non-Hispanic whites in many measures of well-being and success, so it’s no wonder you wouldn’t mind your above average kid going to school with well-behaved, well-dressed, clean and respectful Cubans from well off families, whereas you might not feel the same way about poor Puerto Ricans or Columbians.

Cubans in Miami, even ones going back a few generations, are overwhelmingly Republican. They like the Christian Academies (prevalent in the South) and Catholic Schools. Also, the wealthier communities have the high functioning students in public schools. People will buy a small condo to live in a wealthy district, if they can't afford a house.

The wealthy Latin Americans up north where I live, are all retiring to Miami/Palm Beach - and, they are all Republicans. So many of them, loathed their country-of-origin's socialism.

Somebody should, perhaps, some times, remember us that there are quite many a white problem child with all features of lower-class brains, inability to control impulses, a love of ignorance that has been instilled in them by their home environment in the first place, and so on.

I can’t be the only one who runs across these whites and considers them a serious source of annoyance and trouble.

They too are people the 1%, as well as anyone with a brain structure far from other hominids enough, want to distance themselves from.

True, but in high-cost cities/areas that have seen a lot of immigration in the past couple of decades - LA, Northern Virginia, etc. - how many working class whites are left.

The immigrants tend to drive out poor and working class whites - the kind that produce the kids that you're talking about - leaving only the whites with the brains and earning power to distance themselves from the brown horde. These types of whites produce very, very few kids of the kind you mention.

For example, you just don't see a lot of low-IQ, dysfunctional white kids in Northern Virginia. A lot of them are annoying in other ways, but an "inability to control impulses, a love of ignorance that has been instilled in them by their home environment in the first place" is not a problem for these kids.

The whites in these areas don't have to worry about disfunctional whites because they've been pushed out to . . . Actually, where do all of these whites go? West Virginia? More rural areas of the states? I don't know. I just know that they're not in Fairfax and Arlington.

Good grief! No one is arguing that there are no dysfunctional white people. It is just that when you don't want your kids living around dysfunctional white people, no one accuses you of being evil. It is only when you don't want your kids living around dysfunctional blacks and Hispanics that you become a bad guy.

Back before the credit mania, PWT (poor white trash) was as segregated as the Deep South. Now, anyone with a pulse can get a mortgage. And Section 8 has shuffled in DYSFUNCTION of all colors into previously stable neighborhoods.

Pathological Tolerance is THE central sacrament of Holy Homogeneous Diversity. In its absence, those who insist on barbarous norms would be LITERALLY driven from polite neighborhoods.

Somebody should, perhaps, some times, remember us that there are quite many a white problem child with all features of lower-class brains, inability to control impulses, a love of ignorance that has been instilled in them by their home environment in the first place, and so on.

There are problem children, but they aren't concentrated together in a way that makes any mostly white schools unsafe.

What is really missing from the discussion of neighborhoods and public schools in California is…

wait for it…

wait for it…

Asians.

I searched the article for the word Asians and got all of one incidence:

Owens also measured “evenness” — how whites, blacks, Latinos, Asian-Americans and others sort across neighborhoods. Both measures of segregation indicate that children are more racially segregated between neighborhoods than adults, with white children living in slightly more white neighborhoods than white adults.

Oh, okay, just gotta focus on whites, huh? What about Asians? How much whiter and more Asian are their neighborhoods than others and adults? You’ve got the data. Go ahead, tell us.

Now this article is not the full study, but it sure is interesting that there is so little interest in education when it comes to Asians, who are themselves very very interested in education. One of these oh so concerned SJW’s should start a club for Asian kids to tutor blacks after school. lol. What concerned Asian mom would not rather her child tutor black students instead of studying for SAT or AP exams?

Ms. Khrathapali and Ms. Li could brag to each other over tea about their children tutoring l’Shawwn and d’Shhneiqua

Eventually MRS. Khrathapali and MRS. Li (no deliberate single-parenting here--they may be widows or divorced, but not unwed mothers) would be commiserating with each other in the ER about their children being assaulted on their to/from tutoring l’Shawwn and d’Shhneiqua--if l’Shawwn and d’Shhneiqua themselves didn't do the assaulting.

“This means that children are surrounded by greater racial homogeneity in their neighborhoods than adults,”

I’m curious if this conclusion actually holds up given the differences in fertility (and time). Perhaps more meaningful if schools are more heterogeneous for white students than neighborhoods are for white adults. Then there is the across time comparison. I wonder (well, actually not really) if today’s children are surrounded by more racial homogeneity than their parents were.

Remember that "adults" includes middle class young people who don't mind multicult living - after all, they've been taught by school and media that it's the best. But the minute they think about having kids, something tells them it's time to move out - for "good schools", a "greener environment", "less stress" etc.

Poor people don't have that option of just upping sticks - hence Rotherham and a lot of murders.

I’ve always said if you want to know what people really believe, look at what they do with their children.

People will take far more risks with their own life than they will with their children.

So how do Goodwhite parents justify their blatant racism in choosing neighborhoods and schools? Simple: They’re “color blind.”

If this researcher asked my perfectly SJW white neighbors why they choose to live in area that’s 85%+ white and less than 5% black, they’d just say that they looked around for a neighborhood that was safe and schools with good test scores. It never dawned on them that this would also mean that this area is overwhelmingly white. It just as easily could have been black or Hispanic. They wouldn’t have cared, but this neighborhood just happened to fit the bill and this neighborhood just by chance was overwhelmingly white. They never really noticed. And, frankly, how dare you even ask such as question. What kind of racist are you? I simply don’t even notice color.

I’ve always appreciated the “color blind” defense. It’s very clever. You can be as racist as you want and can accuse anyone who notices of being the real racist.

You can be as racist as you want and can accuse anyone who notices of being the real racist.

Or you can choose the increasingly common response to being called a racist: "Go [****] yourself."

"Until I know you well, I act on assumptions based on means and--yes--stereotypes. If that offends you, go [****] yourself."

I'm getting better and better with practice.

Since I believe we're headed for a resumption of the English Civil War, I do wonder if someday within my lifetime calling someone a racist actually gets people shot. People were cut down on the street for less during such times.

I’ve always appreciated the “color blind” defense. It’s very clever. You can be as racist as you want and can accuse anyone who notices of being the real racist.

Sure, but this is an unprincipled exception. We don't impose disparate impact reasoning when we think about individual decisions, only corporate decisions.

This unprincipled exception is made because Ronald Reagan was elected in 1980 and for no other reason. Prior to that election, the Cultural Marxists were enthusiastically busing white children into black schools and vice versa. They grokked they had gone too far and turned on a dime.

Actually, your point that Miami has different sorts of Latinos suggests these families are more concerned with school quality than racial composition per se--they're not fleeing the Cubans as much. Are Cubans paler (at least the ones over here)? Sure. They don't go to quite as much trouble to avoid Asians, though, so clearly it's not as much pro-white as anti-people-going-to-beat-my-kids-up-and-act-out-in-class.

It's hard to learn if your kids are getting beat up every day, and it has all sorts of negative effects later in life.

(FWIW, my racial cynicism can be largely attributed to growing up in NYC in the 80s and 90s. Oh look, we elected the tough-on-crime mayor and the city rebounded!)

Actually, your point that Miami has different sorts of Latinos suggests these families are more concerned with school quality than racial composition per se–they’re not fleeing the Cubans as much.

It suggests that the racial composition of Cuban-Floridians is different from that of Mexicans in California.

When black and Hispanic parents are choosing a school for their children they look for one that is close to home with clean and well-maintained facilities and well-behaved children. Academic prowess is the least of their concerns, so once they find a no-nonsense charter school or neighborhood parochial school they are usually satisfied.

I don’t think black and Hispanic parents are too concerned with the racial makeup with the school unless their child is the only one of their kind in a classroom. Black and Hispanics don’t particularly understand that test scores are correlated to the race of the test taker.

Minority families may have different priorities in deciding where to live, Owens suggested as explanations for the differences between households. …

“Minority parents also may evaluate schools differently than white parents and prefer schools where their children are not the minority,” Owens wrote.

I need to stop reading these things at breakfast, I nearly choked on my Raisin Bran. Doesn't the speaker or reporter realize that it's exactly the same motivation...not to have your kids be in the minority at their school?

“Minority parents also may evaluate schools differently than white parents and prefer schools where their children are not the minority,” Owens wrote.

Quite possibly, minority parents also prefer whiter schools, the whiter the better. Then, it would just be that they prefer those schools but aren’t willing to pay *as much* of a premium as white parents.

Teachers’ unions have lots of greedy government workers who love mass immigration and illegal immigration because it increases demand for their services. White parents who are not low IQ morons do not want their kids to go to schools that are inundated with non-White kids. Somethings got to give.

The Patriotic GOP must increase its vote share of Whites who want their kids to go to schools with mostly White kids. There are simply more White parents than there are greedy government workers who infest the teachers’ unions. Unfortunately, there are a lot of White construction workers and construction company owners who make big bucks building public schools to meet the demand created by mass immigration and illegal immigration. This one is a hard political wedge to figure out.

It all comes back to White women who see that mass immigration and illegal immigration swamps schools and threatens the education of their own kids. This the issue that the Patriotic GOP could use to win over even more of the White women vote. It will be unpleasant demonizing some of the White women and men who make their living from the education industry — either as school staff or in school construction — but it must be done.

Actually, your point that Miami has different sorts of Latinos suggests these families are more concerned with school quality than racial composition per se--they're not fleeing the Cubans as much. Are Cubans paler (at least the ones over here)? Sure. They don't go to quite as much trouble to avoid Asians, though, so clearly it's not as much pro-white as anti-people-going-to-beat-my-kids-up-and-act-out-in-class.

It's hard to learn if your kids are getting beat up every day, and it has all sorts of negative effects later in life.

(FWIW, my racial cynicism can be largely attributed to growing up in NYC in the 80s and 90s. Oh look, we elected the tough-on-crime mayor and the city rebounded!)

In addition to a reduction in crime, a major factor in attracting and keeping whites in NYC was the restructuring of the public school system. Mayor Michael Bloomberg shut down many of the large dysfunctional high schools and replaced them with smaller schools including five more exam-only specialized high schools.

There are now over 400 public high schools in NYC plus several gifted and talented programs for elementary and middle school children.

The recent HBO documentary, “Class Divide”, told the stories of children living in lower Manhattan’s Chelsea-Elliott projects and the children attending the $40,000 a year private school, Avenues, across the street. Blacks and Hispanics were shown in public school and whites in private school. The film focused on the fact that none of the project children attended Avenues even though financial aid had been set aside for them — none qualified academically.

What the documentary left out was that the public school that the project children attended was half white and Asian, but the whites and Asians are in the school’s gifted program, which the project children did not qualify for either.

One of my business partners and his wife are raising two children in SoHo. They're both financial professionals with a combined net worth well into the 8 figures and with the typical downtown Manhattan political bent.

As the oldest reached school age, they sweated out his acceptance to one of the very pricey schools in the area. There was no way they would send him to the NYC public school their very expensive apartment was zoned for (which I believe includes the Lower East Side... which is still very... diverse).

Thankfully, their son was accepted... and because they have some type of mini-legacy system, that means his younger sister will likely be accepted as well.

‘Scientific research has shown that low-income and minority children who grow up in segregated neighborhoods and attend segregated schools have worse educational and economic outcomes than children in more integrated areas”

I’m glad they pointed out that it was scientific research, not just regular research.

Somebody should, perhaps, some times, remember us that there are quite many a white problem child with all features of lower-class brains, inability to control impulses, a love of ignorance that has been instilled in them by their home environment in the first place, and so on.

I can't be the only one who runs across these whites and considers them a serious source of annoyance and trouble.

They too are people the 1%, as well as anyone with a brain structure far from other hominids enough, want to distance themselves from.

True, but in high-cost cities/areas that have seen a lot of immigration in the past couple of decades – LA, Northern Virginia, etc. – how many working class whites are left.

The immigrants tend to drive out poor and working class whites – the kind that produce the kids that you’re talking about – leaving only the whites with the brains and earning power to distance themselves from the brown horde. These types of whites produce very, very few kids of the kind you mention.

For example, you just don’t see a lot of low-IQ, dysfunctional white kids in Northern Virginia. A lot of them are annoying in other ways, but an “inability to control impulses, a love of ignorance that has been instilled in them by their home environment in the first place” is not a problem for these kids.

The whites in these areas don’t have to worry about disfunctional whites because they’ve been pushed out to . . . Actually, where do all of these whites go? West Virginia? More rural areas of the states? I don’t know. I just know that they’re not in Fairfax and Arlington.

Maybe as far as sticking out as drug-addicted, alcoholic Ma and Kettles, these whites simply don't exist at the level we've been led to believe. And not at the proportion of other ethnic groups' problem children.

That is one of the bigger shocks of living in the D.C. Area over the past ten years is there is not a single poor or working class white neighborhood until you get far outside the metro area. I was in southern Maryland a few weeks ago and it seemed fair bit of the population down there are the grandchildren of the long gone D.C. area white working class that now commute into the city to do skilled construction work.

“This means that children are surrounded by greater racial homogeneity in their neighborhoods than adults,”

I'm curious if this conclusion actually holds up given the differences in fertility (and time). Perhaps more meaningful if schools are more heterogeneous for white students than neighborhoods are for white adults. Then there is the across time comparison. I wonder (well, actually not really) if today's children are surrounded by more racial homogeneity than their parents were.

Remember that “adults” includes middle class young people who don’t mind multicult living – after all, they’ve been taught by school and media that it’s the best. But the minute they think about having kids, something tells them it’s time to move out – for “good schools”, a “greener environment”, “less stress” etc.

Poor people don’t have that option of just upping sticks – hence Rotherham and a lot of murders.

Remember that “adults” includes middle class young people who don’t mind multicult living – after all, they’ve been taught by school and media that it’s the best. But the minute they think about having kids, something tells them it’s time to move out – for “good schools”, a “greener environment”, “less stress” etc.

I was thinking the same thing. Most childless adults are young adults, which means adults with little credit and low or negative net worth. When you and most of your friends are renting and don't have kids, living near restaurants, bars, clubs, etc., is very appealing, and there's no reason to care about the neighborhood you're in as long as it's reasonably safe. It's not until you can afford to own a house that you need to start thinking about school districts and property values.

Our previous neighborhood was diverse, by our city’s standards. About 84% white. Don’t know if that included Hispanic or not, but the diversity was socio-economic, as well. What really brings a neighborhood down is rental property.

When the landlord next to us (he lived on premises) cared about who his tenants were, he got single career people and grad students, with maybe a Vietnamese family, now and then. When he stopped caring (after what was likely a bout of depression induced by a life trauma) he started getting white trash party animals and some of the meth culture. After he died, a Vietnamese guy bought the place and turned it section 8 – which brought in blacks and some other non-whites – and our immediate neighborhood went from loud parties and obnoxious neighbors to knife fights, assaults and a dozen people living in units designed for two or three.

When we first moved into that neighborhood (a “gold coast” area, with grand old houses – mostly restored – from the early 1900′s) we would see prosperous looking older white couples walking leisurely on nice evenings. A murder and a few assaults later, we never saw those type of people out and about again. There was no way we were raising our kids (toddlers at the time) in that neighborhood or sending them to school with the children of the local population.

Our new zip code is 92% white. Nothing at all like the problems in our old zip code. The main thing that keeps it from being 99% white is a massive low income housing complex a few blocks away. Like I said, rental. Most bad things that happen in the neighborhood happen there.

True, but in high-cost cities/areas that have seen a lot of immigration in the past couple of decades - LA, Northern Virginia, etc. - how many working class whites are left.

The immigrants tend to drive out poor and working class whites - the kind that produce the kids that you're talking about - leaving only the whites with the brains and earning power to distance themselves from the brown horde. These types of whites produce very, very few kids of the kind you mention.

For example, you just don't see a lot of low-IQ, dysfunctional white kids in Northern Virginia. A lot of them are annoying in other ways, but an "inability to control impulses, a love of ignorance that has been instilled in them by their home environment in the first place" is not a problem for these kids.

The whites in these areas don't have to worry about disfunctional whites because they've been pushed out to . . . Actually, where do all of these whites go? West Virginia? More rural areas of the states? I don't know. I just know that they're not in Fairfax and Arlington.

Maybe as far as sticking out as drug-addicted, alcoholic Ma and Kettles, these whites simply don’t exist at the level we’ve been led to believe. And not at the proportion of other ethnic groups’ problem children.

Somebody should, perhaps, some times, remember us that there are quite many a white problem child with all features of lower-class brains, inability to control impulses, a love of ignorance that has been instilled in them by their home environment in the first place, and so on.

I can't be the only one who runs across these whites and considers them a serious source of annoyance and trouble.

They too are people the 1%, as well as anyone with a brain structure far from other hominids enough, want to distance themselves from.

Good grief! No one is arguing that there are no dysfunctional white people. It is just that when you don’t want your kids living around dysfunctional white people, no one accuses you of being evil. It is only when you don’t want your kids living around dysfunctional blacks and Hispanics that you become a bad guy.

Here is a better idea for a scholarly study. Why do an average of 33% of Buffalo HS students, who are mostly black, miss an average of 36 school days per year. That is seven full weeks of school. One Buffalo HS teacher says he has desks for 25 students but 44 student on his roster, but he has empty desks every day. Stop worrying about how good parents are raising their children and aggressively address the parents who don’t seem to care about their kids. School attendance is mandatory. You can Google High Absenteeism in Buffalo Schools to find the Buffalo News article.

Joe, isn't all that absenteeism gonna go away once the relatively new superintendent hits his stride (I joke)? Speaking of jokes, I couldn't stop laughing when saw his pic.
http://www.buffaloschools.org/district.cfm?subpage=71

Wanted to let you know: Sweden recently has made “homeschooling,” illegal! I don’t have the reference – must dig up some conversation with Swedish friends, and am in a hurry right now…but, you may be able to look up this information as it should be available.

Don't Miami Cubans have their own (largely criollo) aristocracy in South Florida? Of course, Cubans in South Florida precede the arrival of exiles - I think at one point Key West was majority Cuban at least sometime around the Spanish American War. Anyway, the original exiles were disproportionately the existing Cuban aristocracy (my friend's Cuban father was a boy being educated at a European boarding school in '59 notoriously unable ever to return to his home on a large sugar plantation near Cienfuegos and landed in New Jersey). They outperform non-Hispanic whites in many measures of well-being and success, so it's no wonder you wouldn't mind your above average kid going to school with well-behaved, well-dressed, clean and respectful Cubans from well off families, whereas you might not feel the same way about poor Puerto Ricans or Columbians.

Cubans in Miami, even ones going back a few generations, are overwhelmingly Republican. They like the Christian Academies (prevalent in the South) and Catholic Schools. Also, the wealthier communities have the high functioning students in public schools. People will buy a small condo to live in a wealthy district, if they can’t afford a house.

The wealthy Latin Americans up north where I live, are all retiring to Miami/Palm Beach – and, they are all Republicans. So many of them, loathed their country-of-origin’s socialism.

"Science Discovers: 'White Families with Children Drawn to Less Diverse Neighborhoods, Schools'"

It's almost as though reproductive success and the survival instinct go hand-in-hand. Every time I hear a SJW whine that the right is anti-science I want to gobsmack it. (And yes, I meant to say, "it.")

“Minority parents also may evaluate schools differently than white parents and prefer schools where their children are not the minority,” Owens wrote.

Quite possibly, minority parents also prefer whiter schools, the whiter the better. Then, it would just be that they prefer those schools but aren't willing to pay *as much* of a premium as white parents.

The minority parents truly are poorer on average. So they can usually be outbid, even if their preference for a less diverse school is equally strong.

Here is a better idea for a scholarly study. Why do an average of 33% of Buffalo HS students, who are mostly black, miss an average of 36 school days per year. That is seven full weeks of school. One Buffalo HS teacher says he has desks for 25 students but 44 student on his roster, but he has empty desks every day. Stop worrying about how good parents are raising their children and aggressively address the parents who don't seem to care about their kids. School attendance is mandatory. You can Google High Absenteeism in Buffalo Schools to find the Buffalo News article.

Maybe everyone isn’t cut out for sitting in a chair 7 hours a day until they’re 18.

Jerry, I won't argue with you and thank you for the reply.I now point you to another article in the Buffalo News about the high rate of absenteeism among BPS teachers, the majority of whom miss at least 18 days per school year. I guess that dysfunctionality rubs off in both directions.

Maybe everyone isn’t cut out for sitting in a chair 7 hours a day until they’re 18.

Absolutely. Liberal educational romanticism--everyone should go to college!--makes everything worse. When those who have no business there struggle and fail it's just a waste. And given the blame-whitey, hate-whitey climate that the left\Democrats have engendered\encourage this failure just looks like one more "conspiracy" by "the man" or "structural racism" to many blacks.

Cut the crap. IQ test without excuses. Track the kids. Bring back shop class and other vocational tracks. Try to prepare every kid for *work* as best we can. Plus "life skill" classes on birth control and how big a pain in the ass motherhood is--single motherhood in particular--for the sub-average girls.

White children lived in Los Angeles neighborhoods where, on average, 32 percent of the children in their neighborhood were Latino and 46 percent were white. The racial makeup of the neighborhoods did not reflect Los Angeles County’s demographic composition of 61 percent Latino and 17 percent white among school-age children.

Imagine that! Neighborhoods have different demographic compositions as compared to the County as a whole.

Isn’t that diversity? Aren’t we supposed to celebrate diversity?

Instead, the implication is that neighborhoods should be uniformly consistent across the county.

As an earlier comment noted, the study completely ignores Asians, who are much more selective in choosing neighborhoods and schools than Whites. Up until this school year I taught at a public high school in San Jose, Cal. It was overwhelmingly Asian (largely Chinese and Vietnamese). It was in a neighborhood that I would describe as being at the lower end of the upper middle class. Lots of professionals, but not the real big money professions. I have lots of former students at just about every Ivy League school, Stanford, Berkeley and UCLA. So the Asian immigrants move to that neighborhood because of the school. Of course, the school is a good school because of the makeup of the student body and their parents. Like any Cal. public school the teachers are pretty bad. Only one other school in our district ranks higher than mine (in terms of API and elite college attendance) and that is in a neighborhood dominated by Indians (i.e. Asian Indians).
The big money Asian lived in Cupertino, an affluent Asian “ghetto”. The schools there are highly desirable because they are thought to be “good” but they are good because of the makeup of the student body. Asians with kids are very picky about the neighborhoods they move to, and the quality of the schools reflect that.

In addition to a reduction in crime, a major factor in attracting and keeping whites in NYC was the restructuring of the public school system. Mayor Michael Bloomberg shut down many of the large dysfunctional high schools and replaced them with smaller schools including five more exam-only specialized high schools.

There are now over 400 public high schools in NYC plus several gifted and talented programs for elementary and middle school children.

The recent HBO documentary, "Class Divide", told the stories of children living in lower Manhattan's Chelsea-Elliott projects and the children attending the $40,000 a year private school, Avenues, across the street. Blacks and Hispanics were shown in public school and whites in private school. The film focused on the fact that none of the project children attended Avenues even though financial aid had been set aside for them -- none qualified academically.

What the documentary left out was that the public school that the project children attended was half white and Asian, but the whites and Asians are in the school's gifted program, which the project children did not qualify for either.

One of my business partners and his wife are raising two children in SoHo. They’re both financial professionals with a combined net worth well into the 8 figures and with the typical downtown Manhattan political bent.

As the oldest reached school age, they sweated out his acceptance to one of the very pricey schools in the area. There was no way they would send him to the NYC public school their very expensive apartment was zoned for (which I believe includes the Lower East Side… which is still very… diverse).

Thankfully, their son was accepted… and because they have some type of mini-legacy system, that means his younger sister will likely be accepted as well.

Here is a better idea for a scholarly study. Why do an average of 33% of Buffalo HS students, who are mostly black, miss an average of 36 school days per year. That is seven full weeks of school. One Buffalo HS teacher says he has desks for 25 students but 44 student on his roster, but he has empty desks every day. Stop worrying about how good parents are raising their children and aggressively address the parents who don't seem to care about their kids. School attendance is mandatory. You can Google High Absenteeism in Buffalo Schools to find the Buffalo News article.

Joe, isn’t all that absenteeism gonna go away once the relatively new superintendent hits his stride (I joke)? Speaking of jokes, I couldn’t stop laughing when saw his pic.

His press conference when he became superintendent of Buffalo schools:

Cash will sign a four-year contract. Each year, he will be paid $275,000.

During his introductory press conference, Cash told the media he doesn't plan on buying a house in Buffalo, but that shouldn't mistake his commitment to city schools.'

"I'm going to lease. I have an out clause in my contract where the board can get rid of me at any time. I plan on staying at my home at Martha's Vineyard. That's my home. Make no mistake about it, when I'm here, I'm here, here, here. I plan on putting in the work," Cash said.

Erik, They do dress well though. Three of BPS District's last four superintendents were black and all were paid extremely well and all were asked to resign. The school board is majority black so it's their call.

In addition to a reduction in crime, a major factor in attracting and keeping whites in NYC was the restructuring of the public school system. Mayor Michael Bloomberg shut down many of the large dysfunctional high schools and replaced them with smaller schools including five more exam-only specialized high schools.

There are now over 400 public high schools in NYC plus several gifted and talented programs for elementary and middle school children.

The recent HBO documentary, "Class Divide", told the stories of children living in lower Manhattan's Chelsea-Elliott projects and the children attending the $40,000 a year private school, Avenues, across the street. Blacks and Hispanics were shown in public school and whites in private school. The film focused on the fact that none of the project children attended Avenues even though financial aid had been set aside for them -- none qualified academically.

What the documentary left out was that the public school that the project children attended was half white and Asian, but the whites and Asians are in the school's gifted program, which the project children did not qualify for either.

I watched that documentary. One of the rich kids killed himself, which I found sad. One of the project kids, a black Latino, went to college and came back a Republican. Hope it sticks.

The project agitators were able to shame the school into taking a student or two from the projects according to the documentary.

I've always said if you want to know what people really believe, look at what they do with their children.

People will take far more risks with their own life than they will with their children.

So how do Goodwhite parents justify their blatant racism in choosing neighborhoods and schools? Simple: They're "color blind."

If this researcher asked my perfectly SJW white neighbors why they choose to live in area that's 85%+ white and less than 5% black, they'd just say that they looked around for a neighborhood that was safe and schools with good test scores. It never dawned on them that this would also mean that this area is overwhelmingly white. It just as easily could have been black or Hispanic. They wouldn't have cared, but this neighborhood just happened to fit the bill and this neighborhood just by chance was overwhelmingly white. They never really noticed. And, frankly, how dare you even ask such as question. What kind of racist are you? I simply don't even notice color.

I've always appreciated the "color blind" defense. It's very clever. You can be as racist as you want and can accuse anyone who notices of being the real racist.

You can be as racist as you want and can accuse anyone who notices of being the real racist.

Or you can choose the increasingly common response to being called a racist: “Go [****] yourself.”

“Until I know you well, I act on assumptions based on means and–yes–stereotypes. If that offends you, go [****] yourself.”

I’m getting better and better with practice.

Since I believe we’re headed for a resumption of the English Civil War, I do wonder if someday within my lifetime calling someone a racist actually gets people shot. People were cut down on the street for less during such times.

For example, Richard Spencer’s ‘happy warrior’ demeanor works because he’s not a wild-eyed skinhead shouting at people in the street—the very image the SPLC/ADL would have us picture whenever the word “racist” is lobbed.

SCENE

INDIGNANT SJW
You know, you’re nothing but a racist.

DC.SUNSETS
Everyone’s racist, and not just a little bit. That includes you and me. There’s nothing wrong with it. It’s natural and reasonable.

Somebody should, perhaps, some times, remember us that there are quite many a white problem child with all features of lower-class brains, inability to control impulses, a love of ignorance that has been instilled in them by their home environment in the first place, and so on.

I can't be the only one who runs across these whites and considers them a serious source of annoyance and trouble.

They too are people the 1%, as well as anyone with a brain structure far from other hominids enough, want to distance themselves from.

My rural, nearly all-white high school had several such troublemakers, but never in anything like sufficient numbers to disrupt an entire class consistently.

Remember that "adults" includes middle class young people who don't mind multicult living - after all, they've been taught by school and media that it's the best. But the minute they think about having kids, something tells them it's time to move out - for "good schools", a "greener environment", "less stress" etc.

Poor people don't have that option of just upping sticks - hence Rotherham and a lot of murders.

Remember that “adults” includes middle class young people who don’t mind multicult living – after all, they’ve been taught by school and media that it’s the best. But the minute they think about having kids, something tells them it’s time to move out – for “good schools”, a “greener environment”, “less stress” etc.

I was thinking the same thing. Most childless adults are young adults, which means adults with little credit and low or negative net worth. When you and most of your friends are renting and don’t have kids, living near restaurants, bars, clubs, etc., is very appealing, and there’s no reason to care about the neighborhood you’re in as long as it’s reasonably safe. It’s not until you can afford to own a house that you need to start thinking about school districts and property values.

There’s also the fact that childhood is short. You dont get much time to mold and educate your children. It’s one thing to muck around for a couple of years in your twenties, travelling or finding yourself. Throwing away a couple of years of your childrens’ schooling or two years of exposure to negative elements, on the other hand . . . that’s unthinkable.

I've always said if you want to know what people really believe, look at what they do with their children.

People will take far more risks with their own life than they will with their children.

So how do Goodwhite parents justify their blatant racism in choosing neighborhoods and schools? Simple: They're "color blind."

If this researcher asked my perfectly SJW white neighbors why they choose to live in area that's 85%+ white and less than 5% black, they'd just say that they looked around for a neighborhood that was safe and schools with good test scores. It never dawned on them that this would also mean that this area is overwhelmingly white. It just as easily could have been black or Hispanic. They wouldn't have cared, but this neighborhood just happened to fit the bill and this neighborhood just by chance was overwhelmingly white. They never really noticed. And, frankly, how dare you even ask such as question. What kind of racist are you? I simply don't even notice color.

I've always appreciated the "color blind" defense. It's very clever. You can be as racist as you want and can accuse anyone who notices of being the real racist.

I’ve always appreciated the “color blind” defense. It’s very clever. You can be as racist as you want and can accuse anyone who notices of being the real racist.

Sure, but this is an unprincipled exception. We don’t impose disparate impact reasoning when we think about individual decisions, only corporate decisions.

This unprincipled exception is made because Ronald Reagan was elected in 1980 and for no other reason. Prior to that election, the Cultural Marxists were enthusiastically busing white children into black schools and vice versa. They grokked they had gone too far and turned on a dime.

There's also the fact that childhood is short. You dont get much time to mold and educate your children. It's one thing to muck around for a couple of years in your twenties, travelling or finding yourself. Throwing away a couple of years of your childrens' schooling or two years of exposure to negative elements, on the other hand . . . that's unthinkable.

Yeah, but how do you teach them to be racist if there are no blacks around? Seriously.

I watch "Cops" and "The First 48 Hours" with my kids. I also purposely drive them through crummy neighborhoods sometimes when we're running around. I don't say anything. I just let them take it all in.

"Why are all the criminals black," asks my daughter.

"We're just different, honey, but it's best not to talk about outside of our house, OK," I reply.

I'll explain things in a deeper way later. For now, seeing things with their own eyes easily counteracts what they're told in school.

When I was a kid, my teachers told me that every child was good. I got punched in the face on the playground by another kid. I learned more in that one second than I learned in ten years in school about people. Reality is an awesome instructor. Better to learn early.

My kids teachers can talk all day about how Washington Carver was really good with peanuts. My kids will remember the look of those neighborhoods they we drive through. They'll remember the color of the criminals that we watch.

Btw, they also are beginning to understand how well Asian Americans do on tests. Cuts both ways.

Wanted to let you know: Sweden recently has made "homeschooling," illegal! I don't have the reference - must dig up some conversation with Swedish friends, and am in a hurry right now...but, you may be able to look up this information as it should be available.

In Germany it’s already illegal: full-on felony, jail time, state takes your kids, you’re deported if foreign. This has been the case since about … oh … the Hitler administration.

This part of Nazism the German government still likes.

And don’t look to the EU for relief. It was already appealed to the European “Human Rights Court” which decreed that it is your human right not to be able to educate your own children.

But why aren’t whites without children also drawn to homogeneity? It’s kinda like the liberal trope, that people are more open to diversity if they have more contact with other races. This should not be the case at all.

that people are more open to diversity if they have more contact with other races

You know, I once worked in an environment where there were numerous races and mixtures. It worked just fine because almost all of us were middle class Christians (various denominations of course). So you could look at that and say, "see? All those different colors working with diversity and it's just wonderful." But really, we all shared a culture together. Call it "American".

True, but in high-cost cities/areas that have seen a lot of immigration in the past couple of decades - LA, Northern Virginia, etc. - how many working class whites are left.

The immigrants tend to drive out poor and working class whites - the kind that produce the kids that you're talking about - leaving only the whites with the brains and earning power to distance themselves from the brown horde. These types of whites produce very, very few kids of the kind you mention.

For example, you just don't see a lot of low-IQ, dysfunctional white kids in Northern Virginia. A lot of them are annoying in other ways, but an "inability to control impulses, a love of ignorance that has been instilled in them by their home environment in the first place" is not a problem for these kids.

The whites in these areas don't have to worry about disfunctional whites because they've been pushed out to . . . Actually, where do all of these whites go? West Virginia? More rural areas of the states? I don't know. I just know that they're not in Fairfax and Arlington.

That is one of the bigger shocks of living in the D.C. Area over the past ten years is there is not a single poor or working class white neighborhood until you get far outside the metro area. I was in southern Maryland a few weeks ago and it seemed fair bit of the population down there are the grandchildren of the long gone D.C. area white working class that now commute into the city to do skilled construction work.

I came to the DC area in the 90s and there were still a few areas with Joe Six-Pack types around, though even by then they were thin on the ground. Now, however, they're gone. They've been replaced by Central Americans.

Upper middle-class and wealthy whites have to have Hispanics around to do their lawns, fix their house and watch their kids. At the end of the day, upper class whites can live better surrounded by poor Hispanics than they can surrounded by lower middle-class whites. They've choosen the lifestyle of Mexico over Ohio.

Those upper middle-class whites simply can't contemplate that their kids or grandkids might be working class white. Regression to the mean doesn't apply to them. And, you know what, it might not if they all breed with one another.

Your observations are spot on. I worked in Southern MD. Many of the white coworkers told stories of growing up in PG county in areas now almost all black. Another interesting feature is the continuity of family there. I had a coworker who is in her mid-40s say that her husband's grandma is on her death bed. So I asked if she was taking off work to travel to go to her. She replied that she lives down the road so they'll go after work.

A director at my old job was a "Rudd", a descendent of the doctor that was part of the conspiracy to assissinate Lincoln. The family still is well regarded and prominent in the area.

Another interesting observation is the relative lack of interracial relationships. Usually in lower income black/white areas you tend to see a lot of white women with black men or biracial babies. They exist in Southern MD but it seems like fewer than I see in points south or the Midwest.

Joe, isn't all that absenteeism gonna go away once the relatively new superintendent hits his stride (I joke)? Speaking of jokes, I couldn't stop laughing when saw his pic.
http://www.buffaloschools.org/district.cfm?subpage=71

His press conference when he became superintendent of Buffalo schools:

Cash will sign a four-year contract. Each year, he will be paid $275,000.

During his introductory press conference, Cash told the media he doesn’t plan on buying a house in Buffalo, but that shouldn’t mistake his commitment to city schools.’

“I’m going to lease. I have an out clause in my contract where the board can get rid of me at any time. I plan on staying at my home at Martha’s Vineyard. That’s my home. Make no mistake about it, when I’m here, I’m here, here, here. I plan on putting in the work,” Cash said.

Maybe everyone isn't cut out for sitting in a chair 7 hours a day until they're 18.

Jerry, I won’t argue with you and thank you for the reply.I now point you to another article in the Buffalo News about the high rate of absenteeism among BPS teachers, the majority of whom miss at least 18 days per school year. I guess that dysfunctionality rubs off in both directions.

Joe, isn't all that absenteeism gonna go away once the relatively new superintendent hits his stride (I joke)? Speaking of jokes, I couldn't stop laughing when saw his pic.
http://www.buffaloschools.org/district.cfm?subpage=71

Erik, They do dress well though. Three of BPS District’s last four superintendents were black and all were paid extremely well and all were asked to resign. The school board is majority black so it’s their call.

Joe, isn't all that absenteeism gonna go away once the relatively new superintendent hits his stride (I joke)? Speaking of jokes, I couldn't stop laughing when saw his pic.
http://www.buffaloschools.org/district.cfm?subpage=71

That is one of the bigger shocks of living in the D.C. Area over the past ten years is there is not a single poor or working class white neighborhood until you get far outside the metro area. I was in southern Maryland a few weeks ago and it seemed fair bit of the population down there are the grandchildren of the long gone D.C. area white working class that now commute into the city to do skilled construction work.

I came to the DC area in the 90s and there were still a few areas with Joe Six-Pack types around, though even by then they were thin on the ground. Now, however, they’re gone. They’ve been replaced by Central Americans.

Upper middle-class and wealthy whites have to have Hispanics around to do their lawns, fix their house and watch their kids. At the end of the day, upper class whites can live better surrounded by poor Hispanics than they can surrounded by lower middle-class whites. They’ve choosen the lifestyle of Mexico over Ohio.

Those upper middle-class whites simply can’t contemplate that their kids or grandkids might be working class white. Regression to the mean doesn’t apply to them. And, you know what, it might not if they all breed with one another.

The immediate DC area has virtually no white working class areas. I think the food stamp usage rates of whites in DC, Arlington & Alexandria is less than 1%.

Still if you know where to look you'll see some remnants. Along RT 1. in VA many of the older homes that look out of place among new construction are inhabited by poorer whites. My mother had a white couple do some work on her house in PG. They were both on drugs but I guess my mom didn't notice or thought they did good work, they didn't.

I dropped him at his home after one day of work. He lived in Capital Heights with his father who built the house & six kids. I asked how it was living there being white. He said he had no problem really but he said his older kids run the streets with their black friends and was disappointed they'll probably end up like him.

I’ve always appreciated the “color blind” defense. It’s very clever. You can be as racist as you want and can accuse anyone who notices of being the real racist.

Sure, but this is an unprincipled exception. We don't impose disparate impact reasoning when we think about individual decisions, only corporate decisions.

This unprincipled exception is made because Ronald Reagan was elected in 1980 and for no other reason. Prior to that election, the Cultural Marxists were enthusiastically busing white children into black schools and vice versa. They grokked they had gone too far and turned on a dime.

Certainly, the upper class whites will sacrifice the children of others. I’m simply pointing out a clever argument.

Say what you will about upper class whites – and God knows I do – they aren’t stupid when it comes to things that are important to them, like their children.

Yeah, but how do you teach them to be racist if there are no blacks around? Seriously.

I watch “Cops” and “The First 48 Hours” with my kids. I also purposely drive them through crummy neighborhoods sometimes when we’re running around. I don’t say anything. I just let them take it all in.

“Why are all the criminals black,” asks my daughter.

“We’re just different, honey, but it’s best not to talk about outside of our house, OK,” I reply.

I’ll explain things in a deeper way later. For now, seeing things with their own eyes easily counteracts what they’re told in school.

When I was a kid, my teachers told me that every child was good. I got punched in the face on the playground by another kid. I learned more in that one second than I learned in ten years in school about people. Reality is an awesome instructor. Better to learn early.

My kids teachers can talk all day about how Washington Carver was really good with peanuts. My kids will remember the look of those neighborhoods they we drive through. They’ll remember the color of the criminals that we watch.

Btw, they also are beginning to understand how well Asian Americans do on tests. Cuts both ways.

I read the original source article from Science Daily, and this and many other articles like this lead me to think that this is all predication for the mass consolidation of school districts. The article praised Miami-Dade County for having one single county-wide district but criticized Los Angeles County for having many districts.

Our previous neighborhood was diverse, by our city's standards. About 84% white. Don't know if that included Hispanic or not, but the diversity was socio-economic, as well. What really brings a neighborhood down is rental property.

When the landlord next to us (he lived on premises) cared about who his tenants were, he got single career people and grad students, with maybe a Vietnamese family, now and then. When he stopped caring (after what was likely a bout of depression induced by a life trauma) he started getting white trash party animals and some of the meth culture. After he died, a Vietnamese guy bought the place and turned it section 8 - which brought in blacks and some other non-whites - and our immediate neighborhood went from loud parties and obnoxious neighbors to knife fights, assaults and a dozen people living in units designed for two or three.

When we first moved into that neighborhood (a "gold coast" area, with grand old houses - mostly restored - from the early 1900's) we would see prosperous looking older white couples walking leisurely on nice evenings. A murder and a few assaults later, we never saw those type of people out and about again. There was no way we were raising our kids (toddlers at the time) in that neighborhood or sending them to school with the children of the local population.

Our new zip code is 92% white. Nothing at all like the problems in our old zip code. The main thing that keeps it from being 99% white is a massive low income housing complex a few blocks away. Like I said, rental. Most bad things that happen in the neighborhood happen there.

You can be as racist as you want and can accuse anyone who notices of being the real racist.

Or you can choose the increasingly common response to being called a racist: "Go [****] yourself."

"Until I know you well, I act on assumptions based on means and--yes--stereotypes. If that offends you, go [****] yourself."

I'm getting better and better with practice.

Since I believe we're headed for a resumption of the English Civil War, I do wonder if someday within my lifetime calling someone a racist actually gets people shot. People were cut down on the street for less during such times.

Or you can choose the increasingly common response to being called a racist: “Go [****] yourself.”

“Until I know you well, I act on assumptions based on means and–yes–stereotypes. If that offends you, go [****] yourself.”

I’m getting better and better with practice.

Don’t get mad! And don’t deny/disavow. In Heartiste terms, “agree and amplify.” Assuming the accuser is not physically threatening you, be cheerful and friendly.

For example, Richard Spencer’s ‘happy warrior’ demeanor works because he’s not a wild-eyed skinhead shouting at people in the street—the very image the SPLC/ADL would have us picture whenever the word “racist” is lobbed.

SCENE

INDIGNANT SJW
You know, you’re nothing but a racist.

DC.SUNSETS
Everyone’s racist, and not just a little bit. That includes you and me. There’s nothing wrong with it. It’s natural and reasonable.

If you've found a Social Justice zealot who will discuss anything reasonably and logically, you should have set up a video camera to prove it, and we could display it alongside those proving the existence of Big Foot and skittles--pooping unicorns.

(Just kidding, please don't take my comment seriously.)

As to the Big Picture, I prefer to modify an old saying: "Be polite to all, but be prepared to find cover and defend yourself like you were in the middle of a War Zone, because you are."

Somebody should, perhaps, some times, remember us that there are quite many a white problem child with all features of lower-class brains, inability to control impulses, a love of ignorance that has been instilled in them by their home environment in the first place, and so on.

I can't be the only one who runs across these whites and considers them a serious source of annoyance and trouble.

They too are people the 1%, as well as anyone with a brain structure far from other hominids enough, want to distance themselves from.

Back before the credit mania, PWT (poor white trash) was as segregated as the Deep South. Now, anyone with a pulse can get a mortgage. And Section 8 has shuffled in DYSFUNCTION of all colors into previously stable neighborhoods.

Pathological Tolerance is THE central sacrament of Holy Homogeneous Diversity. In its absence, those who insist on barbarous norms would be LITERALLY driven from polite neighborhoods.

For example, Richard Spencer’s ‘happy warrior’ demeanor works because he’s not a wild-eyed skinhead shouting at people in the street—the very image the SPLC/ADL would have us picture whenever the word “racist” is lobbed.

SCENE

INDIGNANT SJW
You know, you’re nothing but a racist.

DC.SUNSETS
Everyone’s racist, and not just a little bit. That includes you and me. There’s nothing wrong with it. It’s natural and reasonable.

DC.SUNSETS
Hate? That’s so melodramatic. I don’t hate random people. I’m not a thoughtless bigot, if that’s what you mean…

You get the idea. If the SJW is willing to talk HBD, politics, etc. in a calm manner (LOL), then you may actually have a fruitful conversation.

Big picture, whites are still pretty much in ‘nice’ mode. It won’t last forever, because the anti-whites won’t back down.

“I want you to be nice… until it’s time to not be nice.”

This past comment of mine (#173) expands on the attitude I’m trying to convey.

If you’ve found a Social Justice zealot who will discuss anything reasonably and logically, you should have set up a video camera to prove it, and we could display it alongside those proving the existence of Big Foot and skittles–pooping unicorns.

(Just kidding, please don’t take my comment seriously.)

As to the Big Picture, I prefer to modify an old saying: “Be polite to all, but be prepared to find cover and defend yourself like you were in the middle of a War Zone, because you are.”

Somebody should, perhaps, some times, remember us that there are quite many a white problem child with all features of lower-class brains, inability to control impulses, a love of ignorance that has been instilled in them by their home environment in the first place, and so on.

I can't be the only one who runs across these whites and considers them a serious source of annoyance and trouble.

They too are people the 1%, as well as anyone with a brain structure far from other hominids enough, want to distance themselves from.

Somebody should, perhaps, some times, remember us that there are quite many a white problem child with all features of lower-class brains, inability to control impulses, a love of ignorance that has been instilled in them by their home environment in the first place, and so on.

There are problem children, but they aren’t concentrated together in a way that makes any mostly white schools unsafe.

But why aren't whites without children also drawn to homogeneity? It's kinda like the liberal trope, that people are more open to diversity if they have more contact with other races. This should not be the case at all.

But why aren’t whites without children also drawn to homogeneity?

They are drawn to it, but they’re not willing to pay as much for it as those with children are.

But why aren't whites without children also drawn to homogeneity? It's kinda like the liberal trope, that people are more open to diversity if they have more contact with other races. This should not be the case at all.

that people are more open to diversity if they have more contact with other races

You know, I once worked in an environment where there were numerous races and mixtures. It worked just fine because almost all of us were middle class Christians (various denominations of course). So you could look at that and say, “see? All those different colors working with diversity and it’s just wonderful.” But really, we all shared a culture together. Call it “American”.

What is really missing from the discussion of neighborhoods and public schools in California is...

wait for it...

wait for it...

Asians.

I searched the article for the word Asians and got all of one incidence:

Owens also measured "evenness" -- how whites, blacks, Latinos, Asian-Americans and others sort across neighborhoods. Both measures of segregation indicate that children are more racially segregated between neighborhoods than adults, with white children living in slightly more white neighborhoods than white adults.

Oh, okay, just gotta focus on whites, huh? What about Asians? How much whiter and more Asian are their neighborhoods than others and adults? You've got the data. Go ahead, tell us.

Now this article is not the full study, but it sure is interesting that there is so little interest in education when it comes to Asians, who are themselves very very interested in education. One of these oh so concerned SJW's should start a club for Asian kids to tutor blacks after school. lol. What concerned Asian mom would not rather her child tutor black students instead of studying for SAT or AP exams?

Ms. Khrathapali and Ms. Li could brag to each other over tea about their children tutoring l'Shawwn and d'Shhneiqua

Eventually MRS. Khrathapali and MRS. Li (no deliberate single-parenting here–they may be widows or divorced, but not unwed mothers) would be commiserating with each other in the ER about their children being assaulted on their to/from tutoring l’Shawwn and d’Shhneiqua–if l’Shawwn and d’Shhneiqua themselves didn’t do the assaulting.

Wanted to let you know: Sweden recently has made "homeschooling," illegal! I don't have the reference - must dig up some conversation with Swedish friends, and am in a hurry right now...but, you may be able to look up this information as it should be available.

Maybe everyone isn't cut out for sitting in a chair 7 hours a day until they're 18.

Maybe everyone isn’t cut out for sitting in a chair 7 hours a day until they’re 18.

Absolutely. Liberal educational romanticism–everyone should go to college!–makes everything worse. When those who have no business there struggle and fail it’s just a waste. And given the blame-whitey, hate-whitey climate that the left\Democrats have engendered\encourage this failure just looks like one more “conspiracy” by “the man” or “structural racism” to many blacks.

Cut the crap. IQ test without excuses. Track the kids. Bring back shop class and other vocational tracks. Try to prepare every kid for *work* as best we can. Plus “life skill” classes on birth control and how big a pain in the ass motherhood is–single motherhood in particular–for the sub-average girls.

What is really missing from the discussion of neighborhoods and public schools in California is...

wait for it...

wait for it...

Asians.

I searched the article for the word Asians and got all of one incidence:

Owens also measured "evenness" -- how whites, blacks, Latinos, Asian-Americans and others sort across neighborhoods. Both measures of segregation indicate that children are more racially segregated between neighborhoods than adults, with white children living in slightly more white neighborhoods than white adults.

Oh, okay, just gotta focus on whites, huh? What about Asians? How much whiter and more Asian are their neighborhoods than others and adults? You've got the data. Go ahead, tell us.

Now this article is not the full study, but it sure is interesting that there is so little interest in education when it comes to Asians, who are themselves very very interested in education. One of these oh so concerned SJW's should start a club for Asian kids to tutor blacks after school. lol. What concerned Asian mom would not rather her child tutor black students instead of studying for SAT or AP exams?

Ms. Khrathapali and Ms. Li could brag to each other over tea about their children tutoring l'Shawwn and d'Shhneiqua

Could you imagine Asian tutors assimilating Blacks into their culture of gaming the meritocracy?

Wanted to let you know: Sweden recently has made "homeschooling," illegal! I don't have the reference - must dig up some conversation with Swedish friends, and am in a hurry right now...but, you may be able to look up this information as it should be available.

I read a recent comment of yours expressing doubts that commenting here was worthwhile. I think your comments are usually pretty interesting. I hope you don’t go away.

That is one of the bigger shocks of living in the D.C. Area over the past ten years is there is not a single poor or working class white neighborhood until you get far outside the metro area. I was in southern Maryland a few weeks ago and it seemed fair bit of the population down there are the grandchildren of the long gone D.C. area white working class that now commute into the city to do skilled construction work.

Your observations are spot on. I worked in Southern MD. Many of the white coworkers told stories of growing up in PG county in areas now almost all black. Another interesting feature is the continuity of family there. I had a coworker who is in her mid-40s say that her husband’s grandma is on her death bed. So I asked if she was taking off work to travel to go to her. She replied that she lives down the road so they’ll go after work.

A director at my old job was a “Rudd”, a descendent of the doctor that was part of the conspiracy to assissinate Lincoln. The family still is well regarded and prominent in the area.

Another interesting observation is the relative lack of interracial relationships. Usually in lower income black/white areas you tend to see a lot of white women with black men or biracial babies. They exist in Southern MD but it seems like fewer than I see in points south or the Midwest.

I came to the DC area in the 90s and there were still a few areas with Joe Six-Pack types around, though even by then they were thin on the ground. Now, however, they're gone. They've been replaced by Central Americans.

Upper middle-class and wealthy whites have to have Hispanics around to do their lawns, fix their house and watch their kids. At the end of the day, upper class whites can live better surrounded by poor Hispanics than they can surrounded by lower middle-class whites. They've choosen the lifestyle of Mexico over Ohio.

Those upper middle-class whites simply can't contemplate that their kids or grandkids might be working class white. Regression to the mean doesn't apply to them. And, you know what, it might not if they all breed with one another.

Coming Apart, indeed.

The immediate DC area has virtually no white working class areas. I think the food stamp usage rates of whites in DC, Arlington & Alexandria is less than 1%.

Still if you know where to look you’ll see some remnants. Along RT 1. in VA many of the older homes that look out of place among new construction are inhabited by poorer whites. My mother had a white couple do some work on her house in PG. They were both on drugs but I guess my mom didn’t notice or thought they did good work, they didn’t.

I dropped him at his home after one day of work. He lived in Capital Heights with his father who built the house & six kids. I asked how it was living there being white. He said he had no problem really but he said his older kids run the streets with their black friends and was disappointed they’ll probably end up like him.

Diversity taxes come in various forms. One local LA valley neighborhood is seeing that now as their elementary school fifth graders head out to the annual three day camp at Big Bear (a lake in the mountains near LA). It turns out that 20 Muslim kids will not be attending the camp with the other four busloads. Their parents do not want that type of experience for those kids, so less integration and less common experience. That will require some extra staff to stay home with the kids, and the curriculum will be adjusted accordingly to accommodate those not participating. After all, wouldn’t want the sandflakes to feel left out.

Now multiply that situation by the number of elementary schools in the quite diverse LA Unified District, and divide by the number of families unable to afford moving or private school to get the diversity index.

Enough integration already, there are clocks to make and sinecures to secure.

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