Hoping this problem will be noticed by more people, the original post on this issue came from:https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/T470-Linux-Power-Bridge-wrong-discharge-order/td-p/365...https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/63odjr/t470_battery_order_question_internal_discharges/ Brief description: same problem with OS including Win 10, Ubuntu 16.04, Gentoo etc. The internal battery always gets discharged first regardless its remaining power, which is generally harmless but seems not so good for the internal battery life. With my own T470 machine, updated with the latest 1.29 BIOS, this problem remains. According to searching results online, this little bug came with early versions of X's and T' including T460. PS: this issue had been successfully fixed with T460 via BIOS update 1.26, hoping it would be fixed with T470 sooner or later. Best regards.

Hi everyone, Title says it all, I know this topic of discharging internal battery first has been brought up a lot, and that the reason behind it is this: The T470s are designed to drain the battery with least wear first so as to degrade both batteries equally and prolong the laptop's overall battery life. However, as I'm using a new 61++ battery, clearly somethig is going wrong somewhere as the year old internal battery cannot be in better condition than the brand new external.https://gyazo.com/6c12f3f40514599d04d852a8589189ab Any ideas? Thanks!

After a round of Windows updates, I went to turn on my laptop and recieved the "Primary internal battery (601)" error. After this screen, however, Windows would not load. I have tried taking the battery out and 'draining the charge', and starting up the computer plugged directly to AC with no battery. Windows still does not load. The start-up test in the diagnostics menu said the battery needed calibration, however when I go to run the battery test, it gets to "waiting for battery to charge" and exits out of the test without giving me any results at all. Currently when turning on the computer I no longer get the "primary internal battery" error, it just goes directly to a black screen with blinking cursor. Any help is appreciated, I'm completely at a loss here!

Please reply to this post if you are experiencing the following discharging problem, or would have a perfect solution to it. Many thanks in advance When on battery, the Internal Battery discharges First, then, the External Battery. I got the machine around a week ago, and my internal battery has already gone through 8 cycles (when reviewed through the Thinkpad Vantage App). Yet, the external batter has only gone through 1 cycle. Given the ease of replacing the external battery, and that Thinkpad advertised a "hot swap" battery bridge feature, I do not find a rational for the current discharging behavior. There is a relevant posts on Reddit, but draining both of my batteries does not get things back to normal.External link: https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/83vqj5/t480_internal_battery_draining_first/

Please reply to this post if you are experiencing the following discharging problem, or would have a perfect solution to it. Many thanks in advance When on battery, the Internal Battery discharges First, then, the External Battery. I got the machine around a week ago, and my internal battery has already gone through 8 cycles (when reviewed through the Thinkpad Vantage App). Yet, the external batter has only gone through 1 cycle. Given the ease of replacing the external battery, and that Thinkpad advertised a "hot swap" battery bridge feature, I do not find a rational for the current discharging behavior. There is a relevant posts on Reddit, but draining both of my batteries does not get things back to normal.External link: https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/83vqj5/t480_internal_battery_draining_first/

I finally upgraded from the X201 to X270. This is a refurbished mahcine from lenovo. My internal battery discharges very fast. I ran through the utilities. I was on for 2.5 hours surfing with Google Chrome and only had 20% left. Is this normal? If not, I will need to buy an extended battery. My X201 lifespan is much better.

Dears, I'm facing this issue in my Thinkpad X240 "Battery #1 not present", I've tried many solutions like BIOS/Power manager/Battery device manager update ... but nothing works out. At the power manager interface, I can recognize just the removable battery.Do you have please any suggestions to activate my internal battery ? Thank you.

I've just got an unknown malware on my Windows Vista Ultimate Desktop - have spent the past few hours trying to remove it to no avail. Have used Malwarebytes' (used in both safe and normal mode) which removed some trojans and cookies but this malware is still continuing so I'm assuming they didn't detect it.

It keeps giving me several popups:

'Internal conflict alert! Internal software conflict detected! Some application tries to get access to system kernel (such behavior is typical to Spyware/Malware). It may cause crash of your computer.'

'Your computer is infected with Spyware! Detected malicious programs can damage your computer and compromise your privacy. It is strongly recommended to remove them immediately.'

Kind of seems similar to one of the ANG Antivirus malwares but not the same and my computer hasn't detected ANG when I've searched for it. Granted I might not have searched hard enough or it might be under a different name.

The weird thing is that it isn't trying to get me to buy anything and when I click the notifications it doesn't open a webpage or anything. (Yet.) But it's really driving me crazy with frequent pop-ups and the worry of what it might do next, please someone help!?

I have attempted to open Task Manager but when I click on the 'processes' tap ... Read more

A:Internal Conflict Alert!!!!

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I've just got an unknown malware on my Windows Vista Ultimate Desktop - have spent the past few hours trying to remove it to no avail. Have used Malwarebytes' (used in both safe and normal mode) which removed some trojans and cookies but this malware is still continuing so I'm assuming they didn't detect it.It keeps giving me several popups:'Internal conflict alert! Internal software conflict detected! Some application tries to get access to system kernel (such behavior is typical to Spyware/Malware). It may cause crash of your computer.''Your computer is infected with Spyware! Detected malicious programs can damage your computer and compromise your privacy. It is strongly recomended to remove them immediately.'Kind of seems similar to one of the ANG Antivirus malwares but not the same and my computer hasn't detected ANG when I've searched for it. Granted I might not have searched hard enough or it might be under a different name.The weird thing is that it isn't trying to get me to buy anything and when I click the notifications it doesn't open a webpage or anything. (Yet.) But it's really driving me crazy with frequent pop-ups and the worry of what it might do next, please someone help!?I have attempted to open Task Manager but when I click on the 'processes' tap to attempt to cease the action of the malware it closes the task manager right away. Also note if I try and run MalwareBytes the second it ... Read more

A:Internal Conflict Alert! VIRUS/MALWARE

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Phishing Alert: Internal Revenue ServiceWebsense? Security Labs? has received reports of a new phishing attack that targets American taxpayers and claims to be the Internal Revenue Service. Users receive a spoofed email message, which claims they may access and track their tax refund information online. Upon clicking the link in the email, users are taken to a fraudulent website. The fraudulent website prompts users for their first and last name, social security number, mailing and email address, credit card number, CVV2, and ATM pin.

Hi
I have problem with TLSv1.2.
I have a custom windows service application in windows 2008 server having. This windows service calling a SOAP java web-service(in Windows 2012 R2 server) through TLSv1.2. earlier it is working successfully with SSL3. But after converting to TLSv1.2 I are
getting following error in windows Event Log of the client machine with the Event ID 36888. But this issue is not occur each time when the windows service communicate with the java web-service, it is occur sometime and it does not any fixed time interval.
The following fatal alert was generated: 51. The internal error state is 802.
The following fatal alert was generated: 51. The internal error state is 1106
Any help regarding this issue
appreciated.

Hi,
I have this Windows 7, and the HDD sometimes wents to 100%. I really can't find something. Everything really appears right.

But, one thing that i don't know what is file log "The following
fatal alert was generated: 10. The internal error state is
10" I have looking for this one the web, but nothing really specific.
Can someone help me?

Hi,I have Windows Vista 32 bit. I have Malwarebytes, Spybot Search and Destroy and McAfee powered AT&T Internet Security.My computer is infected with the fake "Windows Security Alert" on my user account for Vista but not on the 'Guest Account' (which I'm on now)I've ran all the above scans over and over but can't get rid of it. I also can't install anything like SuperAntispyware or the CleanUp-Utility to remove and reinstall it. For both I get the message "Internal Error 2203 C:\Windows\Installer\75c5.ipi,-2147024629"I've read around and I do have Full Control and my temp folder is clean.Thankyou all so much for your time.

Hello, I have HP Pavilion g6 notebook for 2.5 years and I started to get message about Primary(internal) battery 601 stating that is has low capacity and may need to be replaced. Please, tell me can I still use it without problems when plugged in. If no, then how to replace it . Thank you

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A:internal battery 601

Hi, Just to clarify, the 601 error relates to your notebooks main battery ( not the rtc cell on the system board ). If you're happy with running the machine on mains power full time, there's no issue with that and you can simply remove the battery. If you do want to replace the battery at some time, you can order a new one through HP Parts Store or ( and often less expensive ), just google the full Model No. of your dv7 series notebook including the term battery. Regards, DP-K

With Win 98 and/or Win XP Pro is there a way to check the condition of the internal battery on the MB without opening the case?My brothers Win 98 PC wil not keep good time. He lives in Nebr and I in Washington. Any help wopuld be appreciated.TKS Bob A

A:Internal Battery

alder343 said:

With Win 98 and/or Win XP Pro is there a way to check the condition of the internal battery on the MB without opening the case?My brothers Win 98 PC wil not keep good time. He lives in Nebr and I in Washington. Any help wopuld be appreciated.TKS Bob AClick to expand...

Nope. You have to open the case and take the battery out to replace it

I am trying to replace the internal battery in an old P486. The only info I have on the motherboard is, MB-65-P486-BI0t. I can not find the battery to replace it. The motherboard appears to be manufactured in 1996. Can any one help. The closest thing I have found to a battery is a 2 in oblong plug in that has "green pc function" written on the top.

A:internal battery

Hi Becky, welcome to TSG.

Have a look here to see if we can't ID your motherboard...I can't find anything with that number.

I have an old (1996?) Amstrad with windows `95I now have a new computer and would like to give the old one to my daughter,but....Does anybody please know where the internal battery is situated? My screen was telling me to change it. I have it in pieces on the floor and I still can`t see it! Help.

A:Internal battery

It will be somewhere on the motherboard. It's a flat round battery like those in a watch only larger. On some older PCs, the battery is soldered to the motherboard so you may need to take it to a shop to have it replaced if that's the case.

Okay, so I've been having a few programs with my computer...this including slowness, poor wifi connections, and odd performance of wacom tablets.

The problems with a tablet are described in more detail here--> http://www.sevenforums.com/drivers/1...ml#post1658350

Recently, before I signed into windows, a message on a black screen popped up stating something about my internal battery needing to be replaced. I'm on an HP pavilion laptop // HP pavilion entertainment PC.

Could the problems I mentioned above be related to the battery? I desperately need to be able to use my tablets for my major in college, and are majorly concerned with how they've been acting poorly with my laptop...could just replacing the battery work?

Also, would the 'internal battery' still be the battery that is capable of being removed from the laptop? Or does a laptop of two batteries?

Hi all, I recently acquired a very-nearly-new Thinkpad T450 (i5 5300, 8GB) but I have found that under Windows 10 power options it shows the removable battery at 100% (after charging) but the internal battery is "not available for use". I have checked the BIOS for options to activate it without success. Has anyone else encountered this issue? Thanks, Tim

I have received the dreaded 601 error before my start-up process. I ran the battery check through the operating systems' diagnostics (F2) and it said it would need replaced due to use over time. I also ran the battery charge check through HP Support Assistant and it said that it was very weak and possibly needed replaced. How do I replace my internal battery? The website that HP Support Assistant took me to only had the external batteries available.

A:Internal Battery Error (601)

Can we have your full model number? I think the error you are seeing refers to the "main", large battery and not the little clock or CMOS battery. Is your system closed so that the battery is not easily removeable? The full model number will point us to the right service manual which will show the part you need and the replacement process. Also need to know what country you live in. http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c00033108

So the primary battery is the one that detaches, I have a HP 15 touchsmart and I did the whole unistalling of the battery driver and did a battery scan ? and it told me to replace the primary battery so my question is if the primary battery is the detachable one??

My system displays HP internal battery error (601)and requests for replacement also the battery no longercharges the icon shows 0% plugged in, not chargingDo I need to replace the battery or there is a work aroundto fixing it.Thanks.

A:Hp internal battery issues

I would guess the battery is somewhere between 2 and 3 years old maybe a little older. They are a consumable, replaceable item like tires or brakes on a car. Time to replace.

I bought my machine not a year now an yesterday this info just pop up an d my battery don't charge any longer please I need your help

A:Primary (internal battery) 601 very low

Hi, Please use the following check (same for Windows 8.1) first: http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03325217 If failed you have to replace the battery. Is it still under warranty ? If yes, please contact HP for a replacement. Regards.

Hey Guys, i bought a Second-Hand Thinkpad T440, with 128GB SSD 8GB RAM and i5 vPro.It came with the extended battery (the fat one, that sticks out of the body. I think its 65+I have noticed that when i remove the battery, the laptop turns off. Shouldnt it have an internal battery? Is there a version of T440 that doesnt have this battery? If so, can i purchase one and install?

A:Do all T440 have internal battery?

Hello and welcome,

Some models do not have an internal battery:

http://psref.lenovo.com/Product/Withdraw/ThinkPad_T440

I can't say whether they can be added. Hopefully others here can address that.

i got amessage at startup saying to go to- go techcenterstartup. telling me something about my computer battery my be low (primary internal battery #106.) my laptop is always on desk n pluged in, i never transport it anywhere. when i checked my battery icon, it says my battery is 100% fully charged. where is the INTERNAL BATTERY located & how do i really know if i need one can i replace this myself? do u know the round about price of this battery? thank you if you can help me

A:primary internal battery #106

Hi Here's what i would request you to try find the link given below. http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01443470

I receive this error message on start-up: HP Battery AlertThe system has detected the storage capacity of the battery stated below to be very low. For optimal performance, this battery may need to be replaced.Primary (internal) Battery (601)ENTER - Continue StartupFor more information, please visit: www.hp.com/go/techcenter/startup. whats the difference between the internal battery and external battery? I have replaced the external battery with a new one but the message still displays

A:internal battery error 601

It would help to know your laptop model. But I would say the "internal" is the CMOS or Real Time Clock battery. That is why I ask your model because it is unusual to see one of those die in less than 5 years. The model of the laptop would also allow us to show you how to replace the internal battery. It can be quite a job although the little battery (like a hearing aid battery) is very inexpensive usually.

If the internal battery on my desktop pc is dead
could this cause my pc not to start?
And if so, by replacing it will I be able to start my
pc normally or do I have to do something else?
Reason I'm asking is my pc has power but no splash
screen shows up. The light indicator that shows
activity goes on briefly and the dvd light indicator
turns on briefly. But nothing happens, black screen.

Help!

A:Dead Internal Battery

The most common MB battery is a CR-2032 Lithium. Usually found at most Drug stores, WalMart, etc. Arround $2. That would be a cheap test to try first.

But also double check all your other power connections, but it could be the PSU failure , also.

I have issue after upgrading from Win 7 to Win 10. The internal battery isn't detected and chargeable. Right clicking the battery icon on the notification area, I could see the following messages: Battery 1: This battery is not available for useBattery 2: 100% I installed ThinkPad setting dependency 3.0 and Lenovo Power Management Driver 1.67. They don't seem working. I launched Lenovo Power Manager, but no longer able to see status of both internal and external batteries. I was able to use the internal Battery 1 when I unplug the external Battery 2. But after I depleted the battery 1, nothing seems to be useful in charging it and be usable again. Appreciate if there's any guidance here. Thank you.

Upon start up I get a 601 error message stating that my internal battery is very low and may need replacing. Can you tell me how to replace the internal battery. HP 15 Notebook PC, Model 15-1039wm, product # J8X12UA#ABA. I tried to test battery but my notebook states it is unable to find one. Thank you for any assistance you can give me. Tree

I have my laptop for approximately two years and now I am getting a message about the Primary (internal) battery 601 needs to be replaced since it is detecting the storge capacity to be low. I believe this is the inside battery but how do I determine if the battery is dead? What prodecure do I use to correct this matter? I am going to college online. Would this cause a problem fo rthe storage? I have to download my books for the virtual classroom. Any advice would be helpful!

A:Primary (internal) battery 601

HI, CC58 wrote:I have my laptop for approximately two years and now I am getting a message about the Primary (internal) battery 601 needs to be replaced since it is detecting the storge capacity to be low. I believe this is the inside battery but how do I determine if the battery is dead? What prodecure do I use to correct this matter? I am going to college online. Would this cause a problem fo rthe storage? I have to download my books for the virtual classroom. Any advice would be helpful! When you are downloading the books remove the battery and have only the external power adapter connected for now.It really would have helped if you had identified your notebook and stated which operating system is installed. I can't find info specific to your notebook if I don't know what iti is.look at the barcoded sticker on the bottom of the notebook and post everything that is there except the serial number.You need to check the battery status and also to calibrate the battery. All I can supply is generic information from a randomly chosen notebook series. Best regards,erico

Hi Here lately whenever I turn on my laptop I get a message saying the internal battery needs to be replaced soon. I would like to buy one on Amazon, can someone please tell me exactly what I need to be looking for?Thanks so much! Have a great day!

With my recent purchase of a T460 Laptop, I found that this particular model doesn't comes with an Internal Built In battery in my country (India). Machine Type : 20FMMTM : 20FMA02QIG While searching for compatible Internal batteries here: http://support.lenovo.com/in/en/partslookup , It seems that there are two such batteries compatible with the T460 Model: 45N1773 and 45N1109. From where can I purchase/order these internal batteries and get them installed ?

Hi I bought a 2nd hand x250 online and when i reaached home i noticed battery 1 was no available for use. I contacted the seller and he said that it did not come with one. So it just has an extended external battery that came with it. I am confused because i have another model when has one internal and i bought an external (extended) battery so i have two. I had no idea that some models do NOT have an internal battery. Can i buy one and fit an internal battery myself or are some models not compatible with an internal battery?

A:X250 internal battery

Hi joysleep1,Warm Greetings & welcome to Lenovo Community, happy to have you here.

Internal battery is optional in ThinkPad x250, it can upgraded later on, below are the compatible batteries for your model from parts list.

I have a treo600 which is working fine.But i have one problem with my Treo.The battery power is very low as i use it continuosly.I know that there are external batteries available for Treo but it is not a suitable one for carrying as it is too big.I found one internal battery in www.treotiger.com.Is any one has any experience with internal battery?I am looking forward to the reply..

Hello, Every time when I turn on my laptop, I'm getting this message that says HP Battery Alert The system had detected the storage capacity of the battery stated below to be very low. For optimal performance, this battery may need to be replaced. Primary (internal battery 601) Enter- Continue Startup For more Info. visited hp.com/go/techcenter/startup

Hey guys, i am using sony vaio s series. Whenever my battery reaches 10% it will auto hibernate(VERY ANNOYING as it cuts off my internet connection) it self until i plug in the power supply. Any idea how to make it alert me at 10% and when reaches 5% then auto hibernate?

A:No low battery alert. How to on it?

There are several things you can try. Go through this page and try them one by one.

Hello. Recently, everytime i started my laptop, i've been receving a message stating "The system has detected the storage capacity of the battery below to be very low. For optimal performance, this battery may need to be replaced.Primary (Internal) battery (601)."In fact, i noticed the laptop is descharging way faster than when i bought it three years ago.Searching on the Net, though, i've read about people saying that, in this case, the battery to be replaced is not the internal one but the removable one.I'd like to ask what battery is actually the one to be replaced.Thanks for the attention. Gialdof P.S. sorry for bad English

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A:HP battery alert

@Gialdof? You are correct it is the external/main battery. Remove that one and then boot. The error should go away. REO