Comments on: The Davin Joseph Conundrumhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/
The most popular Buccaneers blog on earth. Edgy analysis, and 24/7 Bucs football news.Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:18:35 +0000hourly1https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6.1By: philiphttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3369199
Thu, 20 Feb 2014 07:35:34 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3369199@Jonny 2.3
You’re an idiot.
]]>By: Kevinhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3367933
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 23:34:49 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3367933I will bet money he re-structures. He’ll do it.
]]>By: Jonny 2.3http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3367886
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:56:34 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3367886@Bob Digital: I personally don’t give a crap if good players are overpaid. Take Vincent Jackson for example, great WR, destroys his opponents if his QB allows him to, has his limitations with speed and consistency of hands, but the good is far greater than bad. VJAX could be making about $20 Million and I would not care. Joseph on the other hand is what we call a “bad player” and has been that for several years. Like I said before, if not for the ridiculous contract he got with guaranteed dollars, he would have been out of the league by now with that substandard play. Bad teams are bad because bad players on them get unnecessarily rewarded. It sets a bad example. Tomorrow Ted Larsen would not be too wrong in expecting a $5 Mil/yr deal from us because he is only very slightly worse than Joseph. Its a good thing poop star isn’t of GM or else Larsen could have made that money.
]]>By: BucTrooperhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3367884
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:43:18 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3367884I had a personal conversation with Davin at Gaspirilla this year and he told me to my face that he was feeling so much better and that most of his problems were attributed to recovering from knee surgery and the staph infection he had (NOT MRSA, just staph). He said that he was looking forward to a bounce-back year.
]]>By: Bucsfanmanhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3367871
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:09:19 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3367871There are some good points in this article. The bottom line is that you simply cannot cut or fire everyone who didn’t play well. There are so many holes in this roster. The Bucs can’t afford to replace both Nicks and Joseph. Joseph is service-able and should be re-signed.
]]>By: pick6http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3367840
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 18:43:43 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3367840i’m no expert at evaluating OL, but the state of the bucs organization since the gruden firing, combined with Davin’s injuries, have probably not given him a chance to show his true ability. i don’t know how many position coaches and OCs he’s had in the past 5 years, but the team went from power to ZBS back to power and then back to ZBS in that time and he was injured or rehabbing for about half of the last 5 years. he’s certainly earned a paycut, but i really like the guy and hope he sticks around. i still believe that interior tandem of nicks and joseph can finally dominate if no further freak injuries befall them, and we have more cap space than can reasonably spend on quality free agents, so why dump a guy who we have no replacement for?
]]>By: Bob Digitalhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3367833
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 18:30:21 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3367833Why do fans give a crap if Joseph, or any other player for that matter, is “overpaid?” It’s not your money, it’s the Glazers, and they have plenty! And the Bucs haven’t been anywhere near the salary cap limit in a decade. Cutting Joseph makes a bad line worse.
]]>By: ROBERT6http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3367830
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 18:26:37 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3367830not sure if this is specific to joseph, but the way the line played last year…none of them deserve above the team minimum except Dotson. Penn, yeah a bit more, but he is past his prime and is a liability at this point.
]]>By: Jonny 2.3http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3367819
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 17:57:41 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3367819Davin Joseph is a bad football player and being paid like one of the best at his position. We should have never given him a 2nd contract after a disastrous 2010 season. Poop Star overpaid him by a mile. If not for Bucs overpaying Joseph in 2011 with a lot of guaranteed money and undeserved hype/praise generated by the local fanbase, he would have been out of the league by now.
]]>By: Mr. Patrickhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3367791
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:41:06 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3367791Thanks guys for making my points for me.
]]>By: BuccaneerBonzaihttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3367780
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:18:33 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3367780THe worse oline player we have is Larsen. HE should be sent packing. He sucks at both positions he is said to be compatible with.

Zuttah is good enough at center.

And while I agree the line is aging, I think it is wise to rotate in new guys in the beginning. NO player should ever be handed the starting job without earning it.

should have seen this coming… Penn bashing. Look, Penn’s salary is average when compared to other OTs. And his play is average, so its an even break. But, in his defense, IMO Penn struggled last year in part due to the overall bad play of the O-line. They always say the O-line works as a team, so if your “team” is struggling, and the guy next to you is struggling (and he definitely was) I would think everyone is going to struggle.

]]>By: BirdDoggershttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3367775
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:07:39 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3367775Cutting him will only create bigger holes on the O-line. With Nicks career in limbo and no real depth on the roster, it would make sense to keep Penn and Joseph around for at least another season while the line can re-tooled through the draft and/or free agency.
]]>By: Harryhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3367774
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:06:28 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3367774@Joe
On a different subject, I am confused. In January, didn’t the Bucs announce the hiring of John Garrett as WR Coach? Then, in an article yesterday, you mentioned that Hayes-Stocker is the WR coach?? And I found articles that announced both of those as correct (about a month apart). What am I missing?

Garrett was the 2013 WRs coach and was fired. –Joe

]]>By: Hesson0208http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3367769
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 15:59:16 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3367769Ask any defensive lineman, Joseph was our most dominant lineman every single year except last year. People are so short-sighted. I sure hope the New Lovie Order isn’t as stupid as some of these posters & the former regime.
]]>By: Harryhttp://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3367768
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 15:54:18 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3367768I like Joseph. Sure he sucked last year, but if he is getting healthy then rework his contract and keep him. He is no dummy. Then lets figure out what to do with Nicks’ spot.
]]>By: Jeagan1999http://www.joebucsfan.com/2014/02/the-davin-joseph-cunundrum/#comment-3367767
Fri, 14 Feb 2014 15:50:55 +0000http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=107034#comment-3367767@ Mr. Patrick “So how does re-working his contract make him play better?”…It doesn’t, obviously…but it does give the team some financial flexibility to bring in another player or two to compete for the starting job. I think the hope is that with another full off-season, Joseph will be in better shape, stronger and able to regain the form he showed earlier in his career. At least that’s my guess. Whether or not he can ever get back to a Pro-Bowl type form is anybodies guess!
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