To me the arguments that go on here are much more akin to a sports forum.... where you have homers and haters. Both sides blindly supporting their side. Their side is always right and the other wrong. It is all about scoring points as to who gets the better dig. It appears to be a very primal form of tribalism.

Politics should not be about that. It should be about ideas and and ideals. We should be able to have objective discussions on Government policies with out even naming public officials by name. We should just debate the merits of ideas. For this reason I really try not to post here but you guys seem to suck me back in from time to time LOL.

Satori... you like to hide behind "facts" but you show your true colors through your tone and pure volume of stuff you find. You don't think that the volume of negative stories you share could be seen bit excessive by others? How do you possibly have time to do all the research you seem to do?

Then why did Trump mary one? Trump doesn't hate anyone he is trying to enforce the law.

Personally this is what I would purpose for immigration: Anyone who wants to come here can apply for a work permit. You can come if you can support yourself.... (buying your own health insurance may have to be a big part of it). However you get absolutely NO government assistance bar say a ticket back home if you fail here. Otherwise no government help. If you are a productive member for society for say 5-20 years maybe we may allow you to apply for citizenship. The rule is EVERYONE working in this country would have to either be a citizen or a member of this program. Since we are being so generous absolutely NO illegal immigration would be tolerated.

MTA: One more rule you must apply for this privilege from your home country.

I don't think it is immigrants per-say he hates, just any with
coloured blood. Melania is obviously white, whereas Mexicans are
latino.

As for inflation, there is a tie
to growth, but not an unavoidable one. Sometimes, inflation increases
when the economy is struggling (Germany between the wars and more
recently, Zimbabwe). You certainly can't read it as proof of growth.

Personally, I think: "Growth
rate?" is the wrong question; America is already a very rich country.
"Where are you spending what you have?" and "How fairly is it shared
out?" are far more relevant.

Giving the
incumbent President a chance is a good rule-of-thumb, but in my opinion,
Trump is an exception, - for all the wrong reasons. That starts with
the deviation from the norm of failing to strive for inter-camp unity
upon gaining office, unlike all his predesessors, left and right.

I would say inflation is a little like medicine: a little seems to be good, but too much is poisonous.

When I took out my first housing loan I was paying 12.25% interest - that was not a sign of a healthy economy, as anyone who has lived through such times might realise. And at the worst point the apartment/flat lost 50% of its value (rising back to the purchase price after about 14 years).

What is "a little"? It seems that most Central Banks go for a range around 2% inflation (not high enough to send prices into a rapid cycle of rises and so stoking more inflation; but high enough to allow for some adjustment of 'real' wages downward without the need to actually cut the $/£/€ amount of the salary).

According to the 2% goal, then 2.9% is a little on the high side, but not too much to worry about unless we see an upward tread. This little trade war, to Make America Isolated Again, should start raising prices so inflation might well pick up.

It seems that most Central Banks go for a range around 2% inflation (not high enough to send prices into a rapid cycle of rises and so stoking more inflation; but high enough to allow for some adjustment of 'real' wages downward without the need to actually cut the $/£/€ amount of the salary).

I have NEVER felt this way about any American before. I respected ALL previous Presidents, on both sides of the political divide, even when I disagreed with them. NONE of them ever gave me the impression that the only thing they cared about was their own popularity. Even in moments of howling disagreement and obvious errors I could see the humanitarian behind the act. Not this time.

I still respect the office he holds, the security and administration offices and the American people.

I just (against my better judgement) had a look at Fox news. I found this:

LONDON – President
Trump began his three-day visit to the United Kingdom on Thursday amid
scattered protests and a government deeply divided over Britain’s
departure from the European Union.

Flying into the capital from
Brussels, Trump traveled to Winfield House, the U.S. ambassador’s
residence in the capital, where Trump is staying Thursday night with
first lady Melania Trump.

There, approximately 30 protesters had gathered, where they hope
to create enough noise to keep Trump awake at night. As the Trumps
departed for Blenheim Palace on Marine One, where they were scheduled to
dine with Prime Minister Theresa May, protesters could be heard
jeering, drum beating and chanting in the distant background.

But while the major protests were planned for Friday
afternoon, when an enormous “baby Trump” balloon is expected to float
over Parliament Square, protests on Thursday seemed somewhat muted.

Outside May’s 10 Downing Street residence, roughly a
dozen protesters gathered to protest the U.S. president’s arrival -- but
some told Fox News they were disappointed as they had heard that as
many as 5,000 were expected to protest.

Lucy Wheeler was the first to arrive: “Where the other
4,999 people are I’m not sure, but I’m here,” she said, carrying a sign
that said “Trump Not Welcome.”

Wheeler, who is half-American, said she was protesting
on behalf of her American family members who she said have had their
lives “dismantled by his really degrading policies and I’m also
horrified at the way we seem to be blundering into a future where our
great British values don’t count anymore.”

Wheeler said immigration, a subject that is frequently
cited by both Trump’s supporters and opponents in the U.K. as their
reason for their respective support or opposition, was one of her main
issues.

What a bunch of liars!

Tens
of thousands have gathered! Fox news calls them scattered rotests.
True, but misleading. There are dozens of HUGE protests scattered
across the country. I have never seen the like in Britain.

The
protests are orderly, gigantic and profoundly rude! I have seen the
use of language Britons don't usually admit to knowing. C U Next
Tuesday for example.

He
is off to see our Queen now. She is constrained to avoid politics and
be polite to everyone. She even has to entertain dictators and
warlords, poor woman. I bet Trump claims she was exceptionally nice to
him.

I say respect your president! Then you say "well this president is differnet" To me I don't see this president as being that different from any other. The difference I see is a much different reaction from the media and activitists on he left. Yes his personality is odd and hard to like for some. However I think we should be able to see past it. Much of what you don't like about Trump comes from how he responds to being attacked. If he was actually accepted from the beginning I think he would be a much more likeable person.

Please stop it on the "he hates". Okay I wll admit there is some evidence of this when it comes to women.... even then I am skeptical. There is NO evidence of hate anywhere else. If you keep pushing that narrative it only reveals the content of your own heart and not of Trumps. "Every thing I say is fact and not oppionion" and "I know the condtion of another mans heart" No you don't.

Everytime there is a strong conservative. They are labeled as Sexist, Racist, homophobe and with just about any other "ist or phobe" you can think of. If the left didn't do ths EVERY single time with strong conservatives mayble I would believe you this time. In the past conservatives have cowered in fear when attacked on these lines.... Trump dosn't play ball by the lefts rules.

We're going to have to agree to differ because I see an bigoted old man yearning for a return to pre-civil rights America that makes no bones about the races, nationalities and demographics he holds in contempt. Oh, and my heart is just fine, but that was a nice try.

Respect is earned. Still waiting for a reason to feel that way about Trump.

"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep""Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.

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