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Comment on The Dawning of Hope by Lexi https://jshegyi3rd.com/2016/03/23/the-dawning-of-hope/#comment-320
Fri, 25 Mar 2016 10:16:19 +0000http://jshegyi3rd.wordpress.com/?p=785#comment-320You can definitely be apart of a community again. I hope that a secular community comes your way soon, but I started off going to a UU and while it wasn’t a perfect fit for me, they were incredibly welcoming and I felt more at home than I had in a while.

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Comment on The Dawning of Hope by ubi dubium https://jshegyi3rd.com/2016/03/23/the-dawning-of-hope/#comment-319
Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:59:00 +0000http://jshegyi3rd.wordpress.com/?p=785#comment-319I’ve often recommended UU to people who liked church, and would like to keep the parts they enjoyed while losing the dogma.

UU congregations are each very different. In my area there’s one big one that’s almost christian, while another is largely atheist, and several others somewhere in between. So if you try one, and find that it doesn’t click with you, be sure to see if there are any others in your area and try them as well.

I taught RE for a few years at my local UU, and had a great time. And I like potlucks!

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Comment on The Dawning of Hope by grettz https://jshegyi3rd.com/2016/03/23/the-dawning-of-hope/#comment-318
Thu, 24 Mar 2016 03:27:29 +0000http://jshegyi3rd.wordpress.com/?p=785#comment-318Thank you so much for posting this! We are always only ever on the edge of tomorrow but I’m standing here with a lot more hope than I’ve had in a long time. And I am so grateful for your patience with we who lead in these challenging days and for the hurrahs you’ve shared here.

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Comment on Is There A Secular Community Out There? by ubi dubium https://jshegyi3rd.com/2016/02/19/is-there-a-secular-community-out-there/#comment-315
Fri, 19 Feb 2016 18:46:47 +0000http://jshegyi3rd.wordpress.com/?p=710#comment-315Even if there isn’t enough support in your area to start a Sunday Assembly, you might find a local group like a Skeptics in the Pub where you could find other people to work with. Check meetup.com, a lot of secular groups coordinate through there. And if you don’t find a group you like, start one!

UU congregations sometimes have good concentrations of humanists as well. You might want to see if any of your local UU’s have a hUUmanist group.

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Comment on Transgender 101 by BroadBlogs https://jshegyi3rd.com/2015/06/18/transgender-101/#comment-290
Fri, 10 Jul 2015 22:23:13 +0000http://jshegyi3rd.wordpress.com/?p=403#comment-290“You would expect adults to have learned to accept others who were unlike themselves but, for people in many of these groups, the isolation, the guilt, and the threats never end.”

It’s pretty crazy. They must have something seriously wrong with them. As they say, hurt people hurt people.

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Comment on I Am Openly Secular by Transgender 101 | Normalize Unbelief https://jshegyi3rd.com/2015/04/11/i-am-openly-secular/#comment-287
Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:29:47 +0000http://jshegyi3rd.wordpress.com/?p=352#comment-287[…] my thoughts and ideas did change. In fact, it was one of several reasons I eventually became an atheist. I couldn’t buy the goodness of a god who would condemn these people as morally bankrupt […]

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Comment on I Am Openly Secular by Joe Hegyi 3rd https://jshegyi3rd.com/2015/04/11/i-am-openly-secular/#comment-285
Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:33:43 +0000http://jshegyi3rd.wordpress.com/?p=352#comment-285I’m glad that you don’t feel that being “out of the club” (so to speak) means a change in our relationship. For far too many of the religious people I’ve known over the years it was an either/or proposition. However, the vast majority of people who I’m connected with through my various online presences either aren’t bothered, haven’t noticed, or don’t care. I’m hoping most of them are in category one but I’m not holding my breath 🙂

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Comment on I Am Openly Secular by Nicholas Rickford PG https://jshegyi3rd.com/2015/04/11/i-am-openly-secular/#comment-284
Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:25:25 +0000http://jshegyi3rd.wordpress.com/?p=352#comment-284Saw your post on Triad, Joe, and have just read this. I was not quite sure why you were worried about what would people would think since I didn’t imagine people would mind one way or another – you believe or you don’t – or you are like me who believes some of this and some of that and none of this and none of that. I figured that is the way it was, but then I realized that some people are not of that mind and do see people as in or out, and to such folks. . or some of such folks, once your out, you are out of their club, so to speak. Well, that says something about them then, doesn’t it?!

So fear not, Joe. I am just glad you have found a way that rings true to you and finds you in a comfortable state of mind.

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Comment on I Am Openly Secular by Mick Curran https://jshegyi3rd.com/2015/04/11/i-am-openly-secular/#comment-283
Sat, 11 Apr 2015 22:19:35 +0000http://jshegyi3rd.wordpress.com/?p=352#comment-283It seems to me, Joe, that “faith,” or something like it, comes more easily to the fundamentalist mindset because that’s first stage baby religion wherein the ego dictates that every single doctrine, tenet and belief is necessarily inerrant or infallible and can therefore be proved beyond all doubt. This isn’t what I would call a manifestation of faith: it’s more like seeing the result of sustained indoctrination. It’s always tribal, of course, because if there is no “us and them” there can be no scapegoat and without a scapegoat the central motivation and purpose of baby religion disappears.

I would imagine every person exposed to such a simplistic and harmful worldview eventually questions it. I daresay most play safe and remain inside the safety of the tribe, contenting themselves with the sort of mental gymnastics to which immature religionists often seem to be drawn . But others come to see what a farce it is and summon up the courage to change and do their best to grow into mature thinking adults who are prepared to apply their conclusions. Some kick religion into touch altogether and become freethinkers whereas others develop their spiritual lives by looking inward with a view to improving their own attitudes and behavior instead of continually looking outward, always on the lookout for things to complain about and, more especially, people to condemn for not being in their particular tribe.

If first stage religion were the only stage I’d have been long gone but I sense that it isn’t and that I’ve discovered something more fruitful (can’t prove that so I’m prepared to admit I might be wrong) and I’ve decided to stick with it. That you’ve reached a different conclusion is quite OK with me. 🙂

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Comment on I Am Openly Secular by Joe Hegyi 3rd https://jshegyi3rd.com/2015/04/11/i-am-openly-secular/#comment-282
Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:56:08 +0000http://jshegyi3rd.wordpress.com/?p=352#comment-282Thank you. I’ve really appreciate that. It seems, at least for the time being, that my fears of how this would go over have been misplaced. I certainly hope it stays that way. 🙂

When I was religious, my religion was center stage and so I understand why those who are religious feel that way. However, I wish we could find a way to get on together without the vitriol.