By sheer numbers of teams and players Texas would win that argument. But if you are looking at rankings there isn't a Texas team in the top ten! Allen and DeSoto are 13 and 14 respectively. I'd put Ohio's best against any other state.

By sheer numbers of teams and players Texas would win that argument. But if you are looking at rankings there isn't a Texas team in the top ten! Allen and DeSoto are 13 and 14 respectively. I'd put Ohio's best against any other state.

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There is a difference between best TEAMS and best players.Texas has the best PLAYERS year in and year out.

And this can be proved and is proved every year.If you can't figure this out I feel bad for you.

I've seen 208 games in Ohio, 210 games in PA, and 58 games in Texas. Most of the Texas games have been state championship games either at Cowboys/AT&T Stadium, NRG Stadium, or the Alamodome. Only 2 games at SMU in the playoffs, a playoff at Plainview, Texas and a regular season game in Memphis, Texas.

Compared to comparable championship teams in Ohio in the same year to championship teams in Texas... Texas wins more often than not. You may scoff at Allen because of their 800-member marching band, 50,000-attendance championship games, $62 million stadium, etc. But they also are really really good. Imagine if the entire city of Cincinnati had one high school and every player of any significance inside the district attended the public school. That's what Allen would be. A city that should have 8 or 10 high schools has only one. And it's by design. Frisco to the west has 8 high schools and is in line to open three more over the next few years. Meanwhile Allen sends almost 5,500 kids to the high school and freshman annex.

So, yes, they're going to be better most of the time than anyone Ohio can put up. Even big parochial from Cincinnati or Cleveland. Then you have Katy. In a district with 10 high schools and also building their third stadium, one to put Allen's to shame, is the juggernaut of their district. Just north of there is Cy-Fair ISD which has over 10 high schools as well. One, Cy Ranch making the state playoffs against Allen just a few years ago. Even lowly San Antonio Brennan, who was only in their third year of varsity football played and lost to Allen in a state title game.

And that's not even mentioned the original stalwart of Texas 'big time' football in Southlake Carroll who have been overshadowed by their much larger and more impressive DFW area monstrosity, Allen.

There is a difference between best TEAMS and best players.Texas has the best PLAYERS year in and year out.

And this can be proved and is proved every year.If you can't figure this out I feel bad for you.

Texas has the best players by far!

Feel bad for me...what is that all about! I could care less how you feel about me. Your discussion about the topic is what matters. You raise some great points. I've seen Texas football, been to Allen High School and many of the teams you mentioned are very good programs. At the time I posted my comments I made my point based on the rankings at that time. Right now I'd put Ohio's best DI team year in and year out up against any big school team from any state played in a neutral location. At the end of the day it's all about the best 40-50 kids who will play most of the game. I believe Ohio's big school champion has 50 football players that will match up pretty well. I think that's true for most states.

nation's best teams are the states of Texas, California and Florida. But which state, on the average, has the best teams?

Using the MaxPreps Freeman Rankings, Texas tops them all with a 55.8 average ranking. The average ranking is produced by taking the top 50 ranked teams in a state and averaging their computer rating. Texas comes out on top, but just barely. California is a close second with a 55.7 ranking. Florida is farther back at 50.2.

This question is all about how you view football. For best players recruited to college or potential NFLers, Texas, Cali and Florida are the three best with Ohio, PA and Georgia in the next tier.

I look at football a little more holistically with how it fits into the overall scheme. Football is a tremendous community builder at its best and plenty of people grow up not going to big time college or the NFL and still have bonds from their days on the grid iron together. Within just the high schools, it can be a cause to rally around in a way that nothing else can. Now obviously you have to do it well too, in the question of OH, TX, PA, FL and CA, I would say Ohio is a strong pound for pound type of state with part of the equation, the other benefits of a strong football state I believe Ohio does better than anyone except maybe Texas.

Even there, I think Ohio has a firm grasp on the reality of high school football. The vast majority of communities are not sinking millions of dollars into stadiums that are nicer than some colleges, football has a place for schools but it is not the absolute most important place. I like that Ohio does not do Spring football, they emphasize other sports or other activities on a scholastic level. Vince Lombardi wrote that the values of the game are more important than the events that occasion them and I think Ohio takes this to heart.