In 1981, Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list and Obama could not have used a US passport to travel to Pakistan. If he used a British passport, it would mean that he was born in Kenya. Because Obamas stepfather that adopted him was Indonesian and both his mother and him became Indonesian citizens themselves, a country that did not allow dual citizenships, if he used an Indonesian passport, it would raise even more questions that the American people need answers to. Then there is the question of forgery. Watch these videos and form you own opinion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMSZQfvqKcI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBgkDSw-wQ0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_-ATxzyiM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe2bpV1QlkE I can never get a live link here. Copy and past the addresses onto Google Cybercorresponden http://cybercorrespondent.blogspot.com

In 1981, Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list and Obama could not have used a US passport to travel to Pakistan. If he used a British passport, it would mean that he was born in Kenya. Because Obamas stepfather that adopted him was Indonesian and both his mother and him became Indonesian citizens themselves, a country that did not allow dual citizenships, if he used an Indonesian passport, it would raise even more questions that the American people need answers to. Then there is the question of forgery. Watch these videos and form you own opinion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMSZQfvqKcI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBgkDSw-wQ0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_-ATxzyiM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe2bpV1QlkE I can never get a live link here. Copy and past the addresses onto Google Cybercorresponden http://cybercorrespondent.blogspot.com

In 1981, Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list and Obama could not have used a US passport to travel to Pakistan.

There are darker ways he could have traveled to Pakistan than the one you mentioned... and easier ones. He could have traveled to another country that didn't have a problem with Pakistan and flown from there... Or he could have flown under a fake passport provided by people we don't want to know about ... Didn't Oswald fly to Russia? Not saying that what Obama did was illegal. It's unlikely... odd - if you pin it down - ping me.

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posted on 09/20/2009 4:40:32 PM PDT
by GOPJ
(When I hear "New York Times"-fair or unfair-what I hear is "New York Times Whore House"...)

"He went to Pakistan as Barry Sotero and came back Barack Hussein Obama. In the early 1980s, there were only two reasons to travel t Pakistan: drugs and jihad. Barack went there for drugs and came back with hihad."

In 1981 the President of Pakistan was Muhummad Zia-ul-Haq an anti-communist who was aiding the Afghans against the Soviet invasion. It is highly unlikely that the United States had a travel ban in place at the time.

Travel bans are rare and usually used against the most hostile regimes (Castro’s Cuba, North Vietnam, North Korea, Red China, etc.) The US has usually had cordial or friendly relations with Pakistan. Indeed, India was friendly with the Soviets and less supportive of the US.

Things might have been more hostile during the Carter years but probably not beyond the Soviet invasion Afganistan. It certainly would have not reached the level of a travel ban extending into the Reagan years.

Before traveling to Pakistan, American citizens should be aware of the following updated visa requirements: 30 day visas are available at Pakistani Airpors for tourists only. As these visas are rarely extended beyond the 30 day time period, tourists planning to stay longer should secure visas before coming to Pakistan.

Any traveler coming into Pakistan overland from India must repeat must have a valid visa, as 30 day visas are not repeat not issued at the overland border crossing point at Wagha.

Any non-official American who is in Pakistan for more than 30 days must register with the government's foreigner registration office. Exit permits are required for those who have stayed longer than 30 days before they are allowed to leave the country.

All Americans traveling to Pakistan on official business or for private employment are required to have a visa before arrival, and, as the Government of Pakistan's clearance process is often lengthy, we would urge those coming to apply at the nearest Pakistani Embassy or Consulate as far in advance of their scheduled arrival as possible.

I was in Pakistan in 1979. There was nothing in 1981 that would have prevented an American from entering Pakistan other than Pakistani immigration officials.

This whole "birther" conspiracy is the wrong way to oppose Obama. If I were him, I wouldn't respond to document requests either; the Democrats benefit from the perception that the Right is populated with lunatics. The problem isn't his citizenship or his birthplace, it's his ideology.

The Legend in His Own Mind probably used a US passport. He could have used a Kenyan one has he still had Kenyan citizenship (until his 21st birthday), but I doubt he did. It would not have made any sense since a US passport was easier to get.

Each and every ‘birther’ would cease and desist tomorrow morning if 0bama would simply be as open and transparent about his personal records and history as he claimed his Administration was going to be.

No other Chief Executive in the history of our Nation has gone to such lengths and spent so much money on lawyers to keep the details of their birth, scholastic records, medical history, travel history, etc., hidden from the American people.

It is not an unreasonable question to demand that the person who is responsible for ordering our young men and women into combat where they may well shed their blood for America, to PROVE that they are Constitutionally eligible to perform that task.

What is so mindboggling to me is that Freepers can come up with so much damning evidence in favor of an investigation into Obama’s past — yet Cingress is totally mute regarding this whole affair. Do we even have a government, and if we do whose side are they on?

As a nation, we merrily allow a possible foreigner to have access to our nukes, control them, and be Commander in Chief of our Armed Forces, and government just sits there with its finger up its a—. Unf—kingbelievable!!

I guess one question is what was the name on the passport he used. When Obama applied to the Illinois bar, he swore that the only name he had ever used was Barack Hussein Obama. I suspect that the passport he used on the trip had a different legal name. And, if there was a visa, in what name was the visa issued?

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