SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SmashMouth
no evidence to present to prove anything....
Goodell can re-frame the reason for the punishment.
And there is 40,000 slide powerpoint somewhere...

Oh snap! Can we afford Vilma? His salary didn't count against the cap this year, now it does.

Yeah, it's not a problem, because Vilma and the Saints re-negotiated his contract earlier in the year and made it consist mostly of bonuses which are guaranteed, so those already counted toward the cap even with the suspension. Vilma's base salary was "only" little less than $2M if I remember correctly, and that is the only thing that will be added to the salary cap.

It's the same with Smith, his re-negotiated contract had only a $800K base salary, so the Saints only have to add $200K to their cap because of him not being suspended for the 4 games.

Now, other things that have affected the reported $8.2M the Saints still had left on the cap are the couple of DB moves they made. Rafael Bush has a $465K cap hit whereas Amaya, who Bush replaced, had a $540K cap hit. And I don't know what Marquis Johnson's cap hit was, but I suspect it was more than the $490K cap hit that Jerome Murphy has. Also, there's the cap hit of Elbert Mack, who was cut to make room for Murphy, before Johnson's injury settlement was announced.

So, all in all, the Saints' cap is looking better than I would've expected with all the moves the FO made this offseason - you gotta love the cap massaging Loomis has done once again.

As I understand it, he can't re-frame anything. I understood from the ruling that he cannot bunch up pay for performance and pay to injure in one, so he is now going to have to define the very instances of pay to injure, which would mean not only that the 49,820 slide deck would have to be made public, but his sources as well. He will have to be transparent the next time around.

i think the judge still has to rule on the panel reccomendation by sunday. we will still have to deal with suspensions for having a player pool. but this is a huge step in the truth coming out.
goodell better bring a private chef with him to new orleans or get used to spit in all of his food. he will be hard pressed to get a spit free meal anywhere in the city.

i think the judge still has to rule on the panel reccomendation by sunday. we will still have to deal with suspensions for having a player pool. but this is a huge step in the truth coming out.
goodell better bring a private chef with him to new orleans or get used to spit in all of his food. he will be hard pressed to get a spit free meal anywhere in the city.