"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.

see the market this week so far.. and in couple days to weeks you'll know why it went up and down b/c a meeting or decision made by bunch of guys will come out that the insiders knew and passed on but most people... ESPECIALLY BUSINESS INSIDER.

flashback stock watching is fun.. when it is revealed something happened but we didn't know right away and the people in our Government have their aids buy and selling ahead of the curve.

I hope every natural disaster every idiot on here has predicted happens at once to the USA.

When the national debt has been increased by so much and the value of the currency is in decline. Commodities and assets should increase in valuation accordingly (to maintain their value). Seeing that the markets i.e. commodities, profits are not increasing exponentially with the increased money supply (devaluation of currency), is this a better indicator of how things really are? So if the debt is increased by 1/3 should the DOW be over 20K?

Please......... the PPT is NOT about to allow a massive selloff hence the rise to positive territory after a negative -60 opening. all controlled folks that is until such time as THEY wish it to occur...........

Why do I get the feeling that some one or some organization (TPPT) jumped in after the markets opened and bailed out the Dow...

That bounce back after an instantly low open was as fast as I've ever seen, and the volume was not that spectacular...

My feeling is they are going to try to keep this afloat until after the first of the year...

Fiscal Cliff...Obamacare taxes beginning...short cash supplies (ie. capital control of cash)...capital controls on moving money to certain countries that are favorites among expatriates...all coming to a head on Jan 1, 2013...

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind.