I have a question. Christians maintain the belief that Jesus' life, death, and resurrection was the key to God's forgiveness of human sin and salvation. Why, exactly, did these events have to occur in order for God to forgive humans of anything? What is the relevance of:a) the life, death, and resurrection of a divine entity manifested in the flesh (Jesus), to

b) A God's his attitude towards human sin.

'Cause honestly, I see absolutely no causal relevance of a) to b). If God wanted to forgive humans, why didn't he just do it, why were the events described in a) a prerequisite to forgiveness?

will there ever be a single shred of physical evidence that will every be found to substantiate the existence of Jesus as a real person?did the authors who wrote texts that are considered psuedographica lie about the existence of Jesus?is there difference between the evidence for the existence of Santa or Jesus?

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Fuck the Bible, you can't even eat in it.

First I told my imaginary friend about Jesus, then I told Jesus about my imaginary friend.

will there ever be a single shred of physical evidence that will every be found to substantiate the existence of Jesus as a real person?did the authors who wrote texts that are considered psuedographica lie about the existence of Jesus?is there difference between the evidence for the existence of Santa or Jesus?

Where are the facts? Where are the hypotheses? Where are the proofs? Where are the opposing hypotheses? Where are the theories? Opposing theories? Established laws? Etc.

For this to be valid, we need to look at it at the skeptic side and try to see where the evidence leads us. You, on the other hand, have made an assumption and seek to support that assumption. That is intellectual dishonesty right there.

will there ever be a single shred of physical evidence that will every be found to substantiate the existence of Jesus as a real person?did the authors who wrote texts that are considered psuedographica lie about the existence of Jesus?is there difference between the evidence for the existence of Santa or Jesus?

You need to be much more specific.

What is your definition of evidence? Do you believe a man named Jesus didn't exist?

Where are the facts? Where are the hypotheses? Where are the proofs? Where are the opposing hypotheses? Where are the theories? Opposing theories? Established laws? Etc.

For this to be valid, we need to look at it at the skeptic side and try to see where the evidence leads us. You, on the other hand, have made an assumption and seek to support that assumption. That is intellectual dishonesty right there.

will there ever be a single shred of physical evidence that will every be found to substantiate the existence of Jesus as a real person?did the authors who wrote texts that are considered psuedographica lie about the existence of Jesus?is there difference between the evidence for the existence of Santa or Jesus?

You need to be much more specific.

What is your definition of evidence? Do you believe a man named Jesus didn't exist?

Which pseudographical texts are you talking about?

Which Jesus and which Santa Claus?

I don't have the ignorance nor the lack of resources that you have therefore I cannot answer your questions, because I don't understand them.

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Fuck the Bible, you can't even eat in it.

First I told my imaginary friend about Jesus, then I told Jesus about my imaginary friend.

How can we talk about Jesus if you do not define the terms? What is "divine" by YOUR definition? We need stipulated meanings. We need a goalpost so to say by which to measure whether or not you are actually providing evidence.

If we have to take on faith, than I guess anything you can think of is true. Since all you need is faith. Also, the mentally ill aren't really ill. We just don't have the faith, to believe them. :shrug