August 17, 2012

Romney and Ryan had planned to go their separate ways before meeting up at the end of the month at the Republican National Convention in Tampa. But then campaign strategists saw how much of a psychic boost Romney got from Ryan — and how much more animated Romney appeared on television with his younger running mate at his side.

They should do what works. The worst thing would be a McCain-like tired, token campaign. Even strong healthy people get worn out in a campaign. Ryan hasn't been campaigning for months and months. Of course he's fresher and rested. Plus, both candidates are more fun to watch when they're having fun as well.

They should campaign together. As a team. A package deal. The CEO of the company [Romney] and the CFO [Ryan].

Campaigning together keeps the focus on the ticket as a whole instead of allowing the media to pick pick pick each apart AND to try to pit them against each other. You see this already in the media trying to pit Ryan's economic plan against Romney's plan. They should stress that the PLAN will be a combination of the best aspects of both.

We need a team of competent adults in the White House and the next administration. COMPETENT and RESPONSIBLE and SERIOUS adults who are willing to face the hard challenges and make the difficult decisions as a team. As opposed to the tin pot dictator we have now in Obama who seems to be just doing whatever he wants and who ignores his own advisors -----> Simpson Bowles

If they campaign separately, they are totally boring. If they campaign together they actually make up one interesting and not boring person.They have chemistry because they are two middle aged white guys. Yawn.And, between the two of them, they have enough good ideas for 1 of them

I always thought part of Obama's appeal was he is sorta like a boring white guy. You kow what I mean- the innocuous, kinda smart company exec with the corner office but no one knows exactly what he does.

According to Crack, the Mormon Theocracy is locking up people who view child pornography.

The story he linked to is about D Christopher Robertson. The Federal Court gave him 2 days served and a $75k fine, but the state is prosecuting him now, and those Mormons apparently hate people who view child porn (since the Mormons run the courts, and the prosecution, etc.).

Several commentors claim that he isn't LDS, but I don't know what that's based off of, other than actually knowing the guy.

The Greg Peterson case is about Mr. Peterson, a Republican fund raiser, sexually assaulting/raping 4+ women. Again, the Mormons are prosecuting a man for committing a crime that involved sex. Of course, the women all claim that it wasn't consensual, so there is a rational for doing this. And Mr. Peterson has been reported as being LDS, so this suggests that they are willing to go after their own.

MLM? Happens way too often in Utah, I'd agree, and I've never worked in one. As long as I don't have to support them, I don't care.

And the play (Book of Mormon - The Musical)? Eh, don't care. But the fact that the theocracy isn't threatening stuff kind of says something.

MLM? Happens way too often in Utah, I'd agree, and I've never worked in one. As long as I don't have to support them, I don't care.

I love how, no matter what the ugly topic, cult apologists always end with "if it's not me, I don't care" - as though THOSE IT DID HAPPEN TO don't matter. Thousands of people have been ripped-off, after Mitt I'm-Good-With-Economics Romney endorsed these guys as a way to financial freedom, but - naturally - they don't matter, and the crime committed on them will forever remain invisible, simply because it wasn't you.

I agree that MLMs aren't a viable path for the majority of people. I discourage people in joining them. But I also understand that people need to be able to make their own mistakes, and as far as joining an MLM, the costs involved there are less than drugs, promiscuity, violence, etc. From numbers that I've heard tossed around, the cost is significantly less than my loan balance for school.So, not gonna endorse them, but I'm not going to make them illegal either.

So you're stuck with two mormons who disagree over MLMs. Feel free to process that into your stereotypes.

I spent 24 years in the Air Force. During that time I met two Jews. One was a chaplain and the other was a Maintenance Commander. By and large Jews do not join the military. Mormons do. They are as rare as Jews are in America, but they are the most patriotic people I know.. Except for one, all the ones I ever met were truly patriotic. The one I'm thinking of was probably not really a Mormon, I think she just wanted to take advantage of their welfare system. I am a Presbyterian, but I have a lot of respect for Mormons.

I've always wondered whether the relative abundance of Mormon military officers had to do with LDS families producing six or eight clean cut, hardworking, deferential-to-authority kids who are bright and disciplined enough for college but don't have the bucks when they get 1/6 of what the parents have managed to put by. ROTC, or the GI Bill, looks mighty attractive under those circumstances.

I only have four, and we're Catholic, but I'm hoping to see at least two or three of them in uniform someday.

I agree with @Crack on this one re: MLMs are predatory. The only way Romney could be supporting them is if he has too much money to know what they really are. They also do have a direct tie with new age through Abraham Hicks and Amway.

the bromance thing is so last year but i gotta admit that these two are awfully cute together. all we need is one viral video of the two of them engaging in a little shirtless roughhousing and obama can start writing his concession speech.

Is Mary Kay an MLM? You sign people up under you and you get a small portion of their sales.

My sister was with a company called Maleluca. (I'm sure I spelled that wrong... that must be a marketing misstep to name it something people will spell wrong.) There, too, you signed up people under you and got a small portion of their sales.

Now, what I thought was different than the predatory MLM's is that the bad ones make you buy stuff, so you end up with a garage full of unsold Amway (or whatever) products and no one makes any money actually selling products to customers, they only suck the life out of the next shmuck down the chain.

So if you're like me and you couldn't sell a cure for cancer, you might sign up to sell Mary Kay or you might sign up to sell Melaluca, and you might not sell any... and the worst that happens is you don't sell any.