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May 8, 2010

[Here is our sincere call to you all please bring on any other evidence you have which can disqualify the inscription on the Lumbini Ashokan Pillar standing today in Nepal’s Tarai; we personally will happily discredit Lumbini as the birth place of the Buddha. Whether you call it ‘we have risen above the archaeological claims’ or ‘our strength of a historic fact’.]

By B. K. Rana

We are posting below today couple more comments - ‘weekend kind of stuff’ - received from Mr. Akhil Kumar Sahoo in Orissa again. The commentator has written many things including whether we should be keeping our ‘temper low to understand someone’s saying on the Buddha’ and whether we could disregard any archaeological finds on the Buddha against his ‘historic fact’ etc. He has even asked us whether there is any such place inNepalcalledBakuwhere he believes Sampak established new kingdom after fleeing Kapilavastu ?

Now, Mr. Akhil Kumar Sahoo would you please bring on whatever evidence you have on the Buddha birth palace ? If yes, please send it to us we will happily post here. We have nothing to say or ‘fear’ of what evidence says for the birth place of the Buddha. If you have other stronger evidence than the Lumbini Pillar Inscription and surrounding archaeological evidence in Nepal, we personally do not have any problem in accepting ‘Lembai’ of Orissa as the historic Lumbini, the birth place of the Buddha and ‘Kapileshowr’ as Kapilavastu – the Sakya kingdom where the Buddha grew up and which King Biruddhuck destroyed later. Bring it on. It won’t perturb us.

But we have also to tell you that Prof. Nabin K. Sahoo’s book - ‘Buddhism in Orissa (1959)’ has done injustice towards Lumbini. Although, some scholars find serious question raised in the book about the birth place which eventually prompted Chakradhar Mahapatra to write another 'fun reading' type of book ‘The Real Birth Place of Buddha (1977)’ – these are all partisan exercises on which we have already debated and posted in this blog here.

These all stuff are like another futile claim made by a Thai researcher Ekkissaro Waroonsr in hiswebsite . We have below posted as it has appeared (without any correction):

1) "The Buddha’s birthplace called “Lumpinivana” locate(d) in Pyinmana town inMandalaystate ofMyanmar."

4) "The Buddha’s death place called “Kusinaraya” locate(d) at Phrataen Dong-rung, Tha-maka district, Kanchanaburi province,Thailand".

And also anotherDr. Ranjit Palwho considers Buddhism went out from Iran to other parts of the world so Buddha might have been born somewhere in Iran.A New Perspective in World History

Here is our sincere call to you all please bring on any other evidence you have which can disqualify the inscription on the Lumbini Ashokan Pillar standing today inNepal’s Tarai; we personally will happily discredit Lumbini as the birth place of the Buddha. Whether you call it ‘we have risen above the archaeological claims’ or ‘our strength of a historic fact’.

You must rise above this archaeological claim that sustains not your strength of a historic fact but can not live up to the conditions I have put before you from history. All your claims will fade away when I show the spots which are sooner going to be excavated. Come up with live tradition of the Buddha and a culture still vibrating with immense facts of history for all the Buddhas. Here I will show you 45 places where the Chinese Pilgrims stayed.

That may perturb many like you who don’t have sufficient knowledge on history of Buddhism. Digging the earth here may put fresh pressure on you there. But please try to understand the history as it exists from the time of the Budddha.

Akhil Kumar Sahoo

Orissa,India

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From: Akhil Kumar Sahoo

Date:Tue, May 4, 2010at11:56 AM

Subject: Re: ANOTHER 12 PART FILM ON THE BUDDHA FROM ORISSA ?

To: The Himalayan Voice

Why do you fear anyone's findings on the birthplace of the Buddha ? One may belong to any part of the world , but keep your temper low to understand the truth of someone's sayings on the Buddha.

Huen Tsang has said he visited the birthplace, place of Enlightenment and place of relics of the three Buddhas prior to our Sakyamuni Buddha. Even he visited the place where (entire body) relics of Kassyapa Buddha was stored, and these are facts of history. I have shown all these things in my film on Kapilavastu. Have you read the geographical boundaries of the Madhyadesa? I have given it in my film. Similarly do you know anything on the attack of Vidudhaba on Kapilavastu?

Sampaka was the only Sakayans who left Kapilavastu and established thekingdomofBaku. Is there such a place inNepal? So, please bring all the scholars of the world for a final debate. We must tolerate the truth. Please see my 12 part..

Akhil Kumar Sahoo,

Orissa,India

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From: Ram B Chherti

Date:Sun, May 9, 2010at5:28 AM
Subject: RE: BRING ON ANY EVIDENCE YOU HAVE TO DISCREDIT LUMBINI ASHOKAN INSCRIPTION
To: himalayanvoice@gmail.com,

You are doing great job. Keep it up. Last winter, I visited the WorcesterArt Museum in Worcester Massachusetts. I was surprised when I saw a description about 'Buddha' that he was fromIndia. I have attached the pictures herewith.I think, we have to visit museums and have to write them the truth.