Pistorius in talks with assault accuser

2013-03-01 14:36

Johannesburg - Star athlete Oscar Pistorius, charged with murdering his girlfriend, is holding "confidential" talks to resolve a lawsuit against a woman who had accused him of assault, his lawyer said on Friday.

Last week Pistorius's legal team cast doubt over his testimony and policing after Steenkamp's killing.

Botha was pulled from the Steenkamp murder case after it emerged that he was himself facing charges of attempted murder for shooting at a minibus taxi.

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Rudzani Mulaudzi Mulaudzi - 2013-03-01 14:48

Eishhhhh. let him cool down a bit. otherwhys he will hang himself.

Hebe Mabo - 2013-03-03 11:44

Hey man that chick must be careful , she should know better. Also please don't lock the toilet door.

Carl Freeman - 2013-03-01 14:54

The person who is in CLOSED discussions with Oscar P I hope you are not that easily de-humanised and sell out for a few pennies or millions. If it was serious enough then for Oscar to spend the Night in PRISON over the charge of assault then what has made it any less serious? Time ? Money?

JanGrimbeek - 2013-03-01 14:59

It will come out that it must have been money, they will call Botha as witness to tell why he dropped the original charge, and this time he will be so scared of making a mistake that he will admit the truth.

briantebogo - 2013-03-01 15:09

Did you misunderstand the article? Oscar is the one suing for R2.2M. For the case to be settled out of court, he has to agree to receive less, or drop the case.

Carl Freeman - 2013-03-01 15:13

Jan, Botha has said "i believed Oscar" that is why i droped the case!!!

mike.down.5492 - 2013-03-01 15:37

Carl do you know the difference between a civil suit and a criminal charge??

JanGrimbeek - 2013-03-01 15:49

Yes Carl, he did say that , but OP's defence discredited his words and believes and evidence to their own advantages( so they thought) so those couple of words that he uttered there will just be discredited by this other womans advocate as "not acceptable" cause it was already proven by OP's defence that his word means absolutely nothing.

briantebogo - 2013-03-01 15:50

@Daniel How can you ask him that when he can't understand a simple news article?

Deon Louw - 2013-03-01 16:02

Oscar spent that time (2009) a night in jail, he is now suing the woman for the dropped case.

dkh.khuzwayo - 2013-03-01 14:55

What a clever tactic to avoid attending court and further media scrutiny? In my books you are innocent until proven guilty but I abhor in the strongest terms the act which you admitted in court of killing someone who happens to be your sweetheart before ascertaining her identity.

Hansie.Crook - 2013-03-01 14:56

The remaining R900,000 of his bail was due today.... Has he paid it yet? R2.2 million? Is he trying to raise bail money from this lady?
What a coincidence that Hilton Botha worked on Oscar's previous case and rejected the woman's assault claims.. Now he worked on current Oscar's case and upon cross-questioning he sided with Oscar's defence case...and did little if no investigation..

Deziree Viljoen - 2013-03-01 15:07

His dear uncle made the payment earlier today,Hansie!

Carl Freeman - 2013-03-01 15:10

Exactly and anyone thinks Hilton Botha was against OP must have rocks in their head. He did his utmost to discredit the state case. I am wondering how much of the evidence Hilton deliberately tampered with?

Deziree Viljoen - 2013-03-01 15:21

Carl Freeman, you took the words right out of my mouth....!!!

Deon Louw - 2013-03-01 16:05

Oscar might be looking for more cash as his running days seems to be over?

Wesley - 2013-03-03 06:17

That is why all the ATM's were empty in Pretoria

candice.leigh.75 - 2013-03-01 14:57

Isn't it ironic that for someone whose surname is Memmory, she seems to have such selective memory about the incident. She was drunk and larey, got thrown out and kicked the door after it was shut. She injured herself. I hope that improves her recall of this situation.

Carl Freeman - 2013-03-01 15:08

Oh here we go the Oscar story is it. That is the played down version. there is no way he would have spent the night in Prison just for slamming the door in her face. if she was in the door way and it hit her? That is assault with a object get iot Right. If Roux was on her side Oscar would be in prison now for this. Just wish Nel would step his game up!!!!

JanGrimbeek - 2013-03-01 15:12

He was locked up that night after the incident, therefore there will still be a declaration made by her under oath that supported the reason for him being locked up, maybe it was not only BOOZE at play and maybe they were both stoned out of their minds, and all this will come out in his attempted counter case against her.
So me Candice, rather go and call a seance or vigil or private prayer meeting for him that they will be able to close this case underhand with paying her instead the 2.2 to keep the real truth out of public domain

ubervanman - 2013-03-01 16:19

yo Carl, you have a thing for Oscar! did he not sign your t-shirt or something? why would he sue her if he did what she claimed? where is the proof CARL?!! have you got images of her injuries? where you there? you make it sound like you were. why aren't you the witness then? guilty or not Oscar will get his time in court. innocent till proven guilty!

Carl Freeman - 2013-03-01 17:28

Father Christmas yes i am please can I have another. But while i am at it even a 14 year old kid can highlight the facts and let the facts speak for them self. I am not making stuff up just what has been reported and has been said by OP. It sickens me they way people are able to throw money at problem so that they go away. And if i do one thing for those who are less fortunate i will make sure that if that is what he is doing make sure you have lots of money as you are going to need all the PR in the world to keep bolstering and rubbishing the truth i will always bring it right back to WHAT HAS ACTUALY HAPPENED! Xbox fixed so no need for Ho Ho hO

The meant witnesses regardin the Steenkamp case, not anything before that

tshepoya.bamagoro - 2013-03-01 15:04

Mr mashigo in any trial, the court can decided to wake up ghost from the past. Remember the modimolle monster how som1 from the past testified against Him

JanGrimbeek - 2013-03-01 15:03

I hope it is the same woman who made a statement that se heard arguments and shouting that morning of the murder too, and you and your advocate called her testimony a lie. Maybe it's time now for her to set the records straight.

Bruning_ - 2013-03-03 09:25

Here we go again. The wannabe preacher dictating the law as usual.

Natasha Knipe-Carelse - 2013-03-01 15:28

Yippee says all the 'media judge vultures' we can attack! Eish these wanna be 'journalists, jurors, activists and judges' knock yourselves out! Oscar, you are only 'guilty' of 'assult' or 'premed' murder IF found guilty in a court of law, don't pay attention to hate/negative comments as if they are all perfect. What a laugh, bwhahaha. At least OP made the haters otherwise boring day LOL Oscar Pistorius, Innocent until Proven Guilty of murder or assult.

Natasha Knipe-Carelse - 2013-03-01 15:41

Sorry to disappoint you, some of us like the current relationships we in and won't drop our current partners for anyone else to seek greener pastures. That shows true morals and dignity AND commitment to the one we're with. I'm content with what I have thank you.

DolceLucy - 2013-03-01 15:48

Oh Natasha, but one of your previous (deleted) comments you mentioned dropping one partner for another. So where is the true show of morals and dignity really? Your self-righteous indignation is astounding. Leaving one person for another is not immoral- staying with him while entertaining another would be immoral. You clearly don't understand. Poor thing.

Natasha Knipe-Carelse - 2013-03-01 15:59

Dolce Dolce you are one BIG bore!!!!!!! #BORRRIIINNNGGG# shoo, go pest someone interested in the poo coming out. You are not in my league or class. #BIGYYYAAAWWNNN# hope you could understand this comment cause if not, you've proved my point!

DolceLucy - 2013-03-01 16:07

Oh no Natasha, now you've gone and made me cry. I'm not in your league or class? That's odd- you're from a background where you're used to people beating each other up when provoked. I haven't really experienced that yet. Clearly that reflects badly on me.

Nurse Helenk - 2013-03-01 16:09

LOL Natasha... Dolce is not in YOUR league or class? Dolce calls you out on your BS and contradictions and then you have the gall to resort to playground insults? You have not proved anything besides this... You are an immature ignoramus who needs to needs to shut her motormouth ASAP.

Carl Freeman - 2013-03-01 16:22

No Natasha, he could be guilty of Pre med Murder but still get away with it if the evidence is not conclusive enough for the state to prove we have to give him th ebenifit of the doubt. Right or Wrong?

Natasha Knipe-Carelse - 2013-03-01 16:26

Nurse 'Nortje' you are so funny LOL, I can just picture u red faced ready to POP. I have no interest is associated with u or that other one seeking attention. I don't cyber battle its not my style, hence you both are not my style or in my league. Go spew ur senseless rubbish else. I'm NOT interested. I choose to associate with open minded, respectful, intelligent individuals. Have U BOTH not noticed I don't bother to comment on your comments? I AM NOT INTERESTED in either of you or your comments. If you don't understand my comment, then it proves my point as to why I don't feel the urge to associate with you both darlings, #tsk,tsk##frownthinking#'what to do when u ignore people who clearly follow u and beg for attention' Nah, you'll never be in my league, GOODBYE hava great life to u both.

Natasha Knipe-Carelse - 2013-03-01 16:35

Carl you could be right but we need to let the court do their job and trust they'll do what's right as IF he's truly guilty even IF the courts find him innocent on lack of evidence there is a God where NO ONE is above the law of Christ. Until then he has the benefit of my doubt, innocent until proven guilty of premed murder with sympathy to the tragic way in which Reeva lost her life.

DolceLucy - 2013-03-01 16:36

Ah, the irony is killing me. You choose to associate with everything you're not: 'open-minded, respectful, intelligent.' If we don't understand the comment, then we prove your point. That is an entirely meaningless saying. Well done. Pat on the back for you.

DolceLucy - 2013-03-01 17:02

Janine- you should see some of her other atrocious comments. She likes to refer to the 'haters.' Clearly projecting. http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Steenkamp-family-welcomes-financial-help-20130228

Natasha Knipe-Carelse - 2013-03-01 18:03

Janine I'm honored u followed me to even my fb page. As for being a christian, it doesn't mean I should be walked over. I comment on my own and its others seeking attention where they attack like bull dogs an MY comments. Don't throw the christian card when people can't handle the things I say. Christians are not door mates however if u wanna throw that card be my guest, as for mean? Its utterly horribly mean to accuse someone of murder and slander their name without evidence, that's mean. OP has as far as I know NOT been found guilty of premed murder as for me distancing myself from certain individuals its by choice before I really say things that I'll regret and not to stoop low like some. People like to judge christians as if we're super human? That's ur choice, blessings.

Rika Bruwer - 2013-03-02 10:40

@Natasha Knipe-Carelse. R u one of OP previous girl friends or a PRO or a admin clerk? Definately not a Legal Eagle background.

covering your tracks lol publicly? Y nw after all these years atleast we know one of the witnesses

linda.dippenaar.3 - 2013-03-01 16:01

John Black, Lerato is 100% correct, Maybe try reading again. Oscar sued her for laying a false charge against him.

Terry Weddell - 2013-03-01 16:13

why not run down the stairs if the door is next to the entrance to bathroom ??

Pani Parzer - 2013-03-02 23:43

..kept asking myself the very same...

kenneth.fisher.750 - 2013-03-01 16:43

Seems the case has already gone down the toilet. Even if it is just a shell case.

Karen Webber - 2013-03-01 16:43

i dont think SHE wants to settle, HE wants to settle before June lol

Nurse Helenk - 2013-03-01 17:37

Exactly... make it go away... shhhhhh.... quiet now.... no more bad PR

Faheem Mahomed - 2013-03-01 16:46

ust my theory...police forensics department,are busy investigating oscar and reeva phones( smses,calls etc.....) all they need 2 find ,if reeva was using any of her phones after (10pm-3am)...if they find she was awake during that time,oscar is guilty as hell.because he said at hearing,they slept from 10pm......only time will tell.just have 2 see if rugby player sent her a sms .......that is what triggered him.

Gunner ZN - 2013-03-01 17:07

Agree, Hougaard could have made him trigger happy

Prada Ledger - 2013-03-01 20:59

he said they slept at 10 he did not say anything didnt happen after that, infact i think he said we went to bed, they could have cuddle and done things that couples do, not that it would be necessary to reveal that

Rika Bruwer - 2013-03-02 10:28

What if they did sleep. She did went to toilet. BUT while in toilet sms came thru. OP read sms, shouted at her, I am going to shoot you women! She locks the door. He shoot thru door

Marianna Izaks - 2013-03-03 01:33

My suggestion: police investigate Hougaart's phone also to see if he received any messages from Reeva that night.

Marianna Izaks - 2013-03-03 01:33

My suggestion: police investigate Hougaart's phone also to see if he received any messages from Reeva that night.

I'm waiting for the trial. Like Madame Defarge I shall be knitting and watching... It will be the best of trials, it will be the worst of trials.

Nurse Helenk - 2013-03-01 19:50

Lol Cats it will be bigger than the Oscars... There will be the best dressed and the worst dressed. Best performance in a leading role. Best ensemble legal team. Best show in town. Get your tickets now! The front row is sold out already!!

Nurse Helenk - 2013-03-01 20:10

Cats... you're not Micki Pistorius are you? lol

Nurse Helenk - 2013-03-01 21:11

Cats google her...she is his Aunty, and SA's leading "murder expert".

Carl Freeman - 2013-03-01 22:20

Carlfreeman77@gmail.com

gary.gordon.961993 - 2013-03-02 12:22

Wow.... This group of comments is like a social network. Can anybody join and is it expensive? I'm old, bored and trolling right now :-)

WildCatSal - 2013-03-03 00:02

Hop on Gary the doors open.. Oops, meant floor!

Joleen Jones - 2013-03-01 17:55

I believe that many of you whom seems to know all look at yourselves before throwing stones, how many people shout and scream at each other (marrried/couples)really amazing how everyone seems to know WHAT HAPPENED the media is DIGGING and will KILL EACH OTHER FOR THE MOST SENSACIONAL STORY that's how they EARN THEIR MONEY, and if I was her parents I'll be embarrassd to mention that my daughter supported us, look at the house they stay in, surely the parents should have money, after what they proclaim to be, or are they now worried that their life line has been cut, just wondering !!!!!!!!!!!

gary.gordon.961993 - 2013-03-02 12:28

Wow Joleen, you should write for "YOU" or "HEAT" magazine.

Charmaine Paterson - 2013-03-02 18:01

Joleen, her parents did not say she was supporting them, that was someone else. As the mother of a daughter, my heart bleeds for those decent people, and they live in a rented house, not a mansion. Oscar shot FOUR bullets at a human. He is guilty, it is just a matter of establishing the level of his guilt.

Matshepo Ntlhe - 2013-03-01 18:03

just because the inverstigation against him killing reeva is still on, he want to make someone else safer like he did and regain the bail money.

Tanja Sclanders - 2013-03-01 18:03

Very strange timing for this settlement, as it would probably include a non-disclosure clause prohibiting her from appearing at his court case for the prosecution to attest to his volatile temper!

Nurse Helenk - 2013-03-01 19:03

But Cats, apparently this is in no way related to the current murder trial. So she's not a "witness". She's just someone talking to him behind closed doors, about something, something we don't get to see or hear about.

Karen Webber - 2013-03-01 18:11

no matter what the court says, guilty or not guilty. you DO NOT fire 4 shots through a closed toilet door. 1 shot acceptable with argument, 4 shots? nope

WildCatSal - 2013-03-02 23:46

Karen, one to many! Just takes 1 shot to kill.. Sad!

Madelein Van Duuren - 2013-03-01 18:26

I don't want to be funny, but how many 8-year olds walk slonr into a strangers house and looks for food in a toilet. They may only finf a floating lunch bar in there. Please come up with a more plausible scenario next time

Nurse Helenk - 2013-03-01 18:29

He thought a human being was in there. Doesn't matter who it was. He chose to fire four shots at them through the door. Those are the facts of the case, even he admits to this.

madelein.vanduuren - 2013-03-01 18:42

sorry. slonr -> alone
finf -> find

madelein.vanduuren - 2013-03-01 18:54

@ Nurse Helenk. It does matter who it is. Not only using an 8-year old as an example is implausible, but it will also point to an irresponsible parent allowing a child to walk around freely outside their own house at 3-a-clock in the morning. I am pointing out the fact that there is much better scenarios to think up than an 8-year old child.

Nurse Helenk - 2013-03-01 18:57

I get your point Madelein but keep in mind that some criminals are under the age of 18. He may have killed a young intruder, a teenager.

Probably bribing her so she doesnt say bad things about him in court. Trying to clean up those skeletons.. he's wastingg no time

Karen Webber - 2013-03-01 18:57

guilty or not. you Do NOT shoot an intruder unless he identifies himself or threatens you. this is what expert lawyers say

Amigo8 - 2013-03-01 19:35

Geeee can people leave pistorius alone. What about all other crimes going on every day that are far worse. Nobody says anything about them. Maybe poorer people are jellous of him. Who knows

Nurse Helenk - 2013-03-01 19:47

What is jellous? A fabulous jelly mousse?

Amigo8 - 2013-03-01 19:54

Cats you pretty stupid brother read what I said. Idiota

Nurse Helenk - 2013-03-01 20:19

This Amigo, he's not so bright. He drink too much of the tequila and the worm has eaten what was left of his jello brain.

Prada Ledger - 2013-03-01 20:54

Oscar is a good man, we must all believe that and support him through this.

Prada Ledger - 2013-03-01 21:13

also understand that the lawyers are the ones talking not OP having a one on one with girl, OP is just relaxing eating biltong

WildCatSal - 2013-03-02 23:39

Would that be donkey, goat, water buffalo, kangaroo...?

Amigo8 - 2013-03-01 21:53

Prada your cool I dig your thoughts

Prada Ledger - 2013-03-02 06:59

thanks bud

Berry Goodman - 2013-03-01 22:21

Oscar is trying to get money for bail and also needs this case to go away as this will expose the help Mr Botha was in Oscars case. There is more history than just this.
The forensics will prove that Oscar is guilty. Evryone can just wait and see for themselves. Reeva's autopsy revealed enough to put him away for life, it was just not used in the bail application as more evidence is accumalating is results come in. The Steenkamp family know he is guilty and they are behaving above reproach under the circumstances. These are such wonderfull people with Reeva being a result of their upbringing. They just want Oscar to admit that he lost his cool and did what we all know he did. There is plenty reason for his behaviour to be exposed in time to come. Hold on to your seats.

Rika Bruwer - 2013-03-02 10:12

Hilton Botha and OP I suspect they are in kihoets. All the cases that's been dropped. No proof of OP been booked into cells 12 Sept 2009. Match fixing? Court fixing by Botha? Nair and Nel were surpriced by Botha's answers in court.

berry.goodman - 2013-03-02 11:18

@Cats Cradle. It is a pity that he did not come clean from the start. I am sure uncle Barry does not think he is a murderer but that he lost control of his emotions and went crazy for some reason.Call it temporary insanity. He neds to have himself checked by qualified people that will not fall for charm or fame and will call a problem person a problem person. I believe Reeva wanted to help him and change him. She probably felt sorry for him to some extent. She was great at reading and understanding people but would not stand for abuse and I think for the first time that night he met his match and this got him to do what he never thought he was capable of.
This is sad no matter what.I dont think most people plan to kill someone but he wanted to kill her that night and did not think rationally.
The sooner he accepts his actions the sooner forgiveness can begin. He needs it more than anything right now. The legal process should be a secondary concern.

Iampeople - 2013-03-01 23:14

Julius, could you please do or say something to get back into the news, thanks bud!

Juju Junior - 2013-03-02 12:39

Be careful of what you wish for....because you might just get it.

richard.young.1253236 - 2013-03-02 08:22

OP is suing the woman for defamation.
For that one needs a substantial reputation.
One needs a giant of a reputation to be awarded damages in defamation of R2,2 million.
OP may have had a reputation worth that kind of money, but he won't have if he is found guilty of homicide.
And that will happen as he has effectively admitted it.
Right now he needs a court case with cross-examination and a wired world panting for details like he needs a hole in the head, the shoulder and the hip.
Better settle then. Pay her legal expenses and scuttle back to oom se plek.

????? ????? - 2013-03-03 08:35

Richard....you deserve a kiss for that spot on commentary:)

Modikoe Elias Ramongana - 2013-03-02 08:53

They're trying 2 silent the witness,the makrokokroko(Oscar)'s hands are full of blood

gary.gordon.961993 - 2013-03-02 12:01

She'd better agree to his terms or feel the wrath of his cricket bat.

Ellakita - 2013-03-02 12:14

Get more stones.Your stones are running out

wordis.word.1 - 2013-03-02 12:50

POS

ANASKA - 2013-03-02 14:14

This man's image went down the drain the moment he pilled the trigger!!

Shelle Malan - 2013-03-02 14:44

In my humble opinion, all we will be left with in the very near future is a lily-white, totally innocent choir-boy!

Nizole Middle-Finger Khala - 2013-03-02 17:55

Oscar exposed his family's unholy acts!!

marina.poniatowska - 2013-03-02 18:36

HTF do you slam a door AT someone?

gary.gordon.961993 - 2013-03-02 19:59

You first invite the person in and then you offer no tea, then when they leave all p1ssed off, you slam the door in their face as hard as you can just as they are angrily bidding you fairwell (the technical jargon for this particular action is called "Slamming AT"). It doesn't work everytime but we get better with practise.

Ramohapelwa Berries - 2013-03-02 21:28

All Mr. OP's troubles include women

Rika Bruwer - 2013-03-02 22:09

Hilton Botha and OP have been operation since 5 years ago. Now it is biting them in da bums. How can WO Botha with 24 years in SAPS make mistakes like he did? Has he done it on purpose? Was he intimidated by defence team? Did he got emotional involved? Match fixing vs Case fixing? 14:30- Botha says he chose not to push for Oscar Pistorius assault charge because he believed the athlete. 14:29 - Nel: So this accused knew you from before and in that matter you didn't pursue a case against him? Botha: Yes, that's correct. 14:28 - Botha says he was the investigating officer in previous matter. A docket was opened but it didn't go any further. Botha: I went to the scene. Spoke to the accused and I sent it in and matter was withdrawn. 14:27 - Magistrate asks Nel why he didn't go to the previous incident when he was arrested. Nel agrees to ask some questions. 14:25 - Botha: I knew it was him when my colonel phoned me. Had also been a previous incident at his house when he was arrested. 14:24 - Magistrate: At what point did you realise the suspect is the well known international athlete? Botha: I know Mr Pistorius. 14:22-Botha now says it is probably 300m from where the witness was. Closer than 600m. Aislinn Laing tweets: Pistorius has eyes raised for once, looking over at the policeman that's leading his prosecution, his face impassive. 14:21-Nel: Cross examination is a terrible place to be, so think carefully. Do you believe your version? Botha: Yes. Nel: I don't want to embarrass you but I want to ask you about how you measure. Are you sure about distance to lifts [of the courthouse]?

Widz Bullshark Magz - 2013-03-03 00:18

Oscar became a cash cow overnight, ckeck this space.

Nizole Middle-Finger Khala - 2013-03-03 08:56

Oscar must just do himself a favour and follow Reeva because he can splash out as much money as he can but at the end of the day Jub-jub will get a partner!!

johan.mostert.967 - 2013-03-03 11:35

Chances are higher, that Shaik will have a golf buddy.

Nizole Middle-Finger Khala - 2013-03-03 11:26

Promise the accuser about bread and butter to drop the charges!!

san.stols - 2013-03-03 12:26

Are you (yes you who accusing Oscar) with out any blame or sin in your life? If you were not where Oscar is today...be carefull... your time maybe near...think

Gerald Beer - 2013-03-03 15:31

Did he or did he not admit to shooting her through the door?

henry.vanderfartenburp - 2013-03-03 15:50

http://i.imgur.com/jurqUiq.png

PissyWhiskers Black - 2013-03-06 08:37

Come on go to court.......let's see how many assault charges you can PAY away as it seems you have quite a few for a scaredy cat feeling all vulnerable n all

Donna Lee Viljoen - 2014-02-12 10:48

Roses are red
Violets are blue
If Oscar is your Valentine
PLEASE dont go to the LOO
Enough said!!!