re: If Mingo dropped to us would you take him @#15? Add Montgomery to this thread!(Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin on 1/6/13 at 7:41 pm to TigerJeff)

The thing with Mingo is he isn't big enough to play DE in a 43 at the moment, so he's best suited as a 34 OLB. Now, he could play OLB in a 43 and do what Von Miller does, but seems like a risk early on. Most of the good DL in this draft are DTs. Star, Hankins, Williams, Sheldon, Jenkins, Short, Logan*, etc. Definitely some good DEs out there though, Werner, Jordan, and I think Sonic Sam would be a good 43 DE, but will he ever be anything more than serviceable? That's the question I have. I think Sam would be out best bet at 15.

re: If Mingo dropped to us would you take him @#15? Add Montgomery to this thread!(Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm on 1/6/13 at 8:04 pm to Suntiger)

quote:I posted this a while back, but I think Mingo has potential to be a big time football player in the NFL if he's used correctly.

That's sort of how I feel.

I understand the whole Montgomery fits us better stuff.. but um just give me the player with the most upside. I believe that player is Mingo. I want playmakers.. guys who can disrupt on this defense. I'm tired of seeing those studly 3/4 de/olb hybrids get passed up and go star at other teams.

re: If Mingo dropped to us would you take him @#15? Add Montgomery to this thread!(Posted by Jcorye1 on 1/6/13 at 11:03 pm to Saintsfan985)

quote:Duh! don't come here with that bs saying Mingo can't play linebacker in the 4-3 look at Von Miller projected to play linebacker in a 3-4 and broncos play 4-3 and he is one of the best players and pass rushers in the league

Mingo is not even close to the player Von is, sorry.

Check out how they schematically play defense in Denver. While it is a 43 defense, they use a ton of schemes built from the 34 defense. Von Miller rushes out of the 2 point stance quite a bit, and is also asked to drop into coverage. He also will line up as a down lineman in a 3 point stance in pure pass rush mode.

re: If Mingo dropped to us would you take him @#15? Add Montgomery to this thread!(Posted by THRILLHO on 1/6/13 at 11:05 pm to geauxtigers87)

I really wasn't that impressed by either this season. Mingo, for all the talk he got, ended up with 4.5 sacks on the season after 8 last season. Montgomery's numbers fell off a bit, too. I'd rather take the best OT, DB, or (maybe) DT available and (since I still think we get our 2nd rounder back) go with Okafor or Carradine in the 2nd if we like them. It's a very deep DE class, but I think that there's a pretty decent dropoff after Werner, Moore, and Jones (who is more of an 3-4 OLB), and that the next tier of DE's after them is deep, with not that much of a difference between them when it comes to risk/reward. Guys like Montgomery and Okafor are day one starters that will probably never be great NFL players, and those like Mingo, Ansah, and Jordan have amazing physical tools that could very well suck.

re: If Mingo dropped to us would you take him @#15? Add Montgomery to this thread!(Posted by jagfoot on 1/7/13 at 4:57 pm to THRILLHO)

If we luck out and get MINGO you will see plays where the tackle won't even touch' em and running backs and quarterbacks get caught from behind rather than seeing a bunch of turtles get blown out the play, fake out so bad. They can't catch an 80yr old man in a wheel chair. It will be a new ball game with MINGO and one alike on the other corner. We don't have it in the middle either but I would start on the corners cause thats where the big plays usually go.

Got my fingers crossed they better not pass on him if he is still there!

If you watch closely he was moment away from a sack many of time this year and notice other well coached teams ran alot of short passes because of it.