01. Satellite 15... The Final Frontier02. El Dorado03. Mother Of Mercy04. Coming Home05. The Alchemist06. Isle Of Avalon07. Starblind08. The Talisman09. The Man Who Would Be King10. When The Wild Wind Blows

Iron Maiden have had ups and downs, but they consistently stuck to their unique style. 2006's A Matter of Life and Death saw a serious departure from that style towards a darker, more progressive sound - it was only a partial success. Unfortunately, Steve Harris and Co. felt encouraged, and decided to go further in their departures. The first 4 songs on The Final Frontier rank among the worst this band has ever committed and most of the time sound nothing like the Iron Maiden everyone knows. Departure from style my ass. If they wanted to depart again, the previous album was the way to do it.

It seems like it's become trendy to dislike any music that becomes even somewhat mainstream. I am by no means bitter; I'm guilty of this prejudice quite often. So, when I saw the album votes go the way they did for The Final Frontier I wasn't shocked. But, in all honesty, I thought this album was pretty hard! This is one of Maiden's most successful albums to date and for a damn good reason. While it does sound different from anything they've done before, that doesn't make it worse. Do you really want three albums that sound exactly like Brave New World?

Written by RavenKing on 20.08.2010 at 19:50It's between these two albums for me too. However, I think the first album had a few memorable songs, while "Killers" has lots of forgettable fillers, imo.

Looking at the tracklistings for both albums now, then yep, Id have to agree that "Killers" is the worst between the 2. The debut has only one real filler IMO. ("Charlotte The Harlot"). While "Killers" has 2. ("Another Life", and "Drifter") And the debut's ratio of truly great songs is also higher than "Killers".

Well, if you think about it with an open mind opinion, you will see that all Iron Maiden records are ranging from very good to AWESOME ,, there are Maiden weak record, even Bayley era had many great highs, but fans dislike it because they wana hear Dickinson.

Final Frontier is just another good addition into the legacy, although its little bet disappointing, because we are talking about the MAIDENs

Well, if you think about it with an open mind opinion, you will see that all Iron Maiden records are ranging from very good to AWESOME ,, there are Maiden weak record, even Bayley era had many great highs, but fans dislike it because they wana hear Dickinson.

Final Frontier is just another good addition into the legacy, although its little bet disappointing, because we are talking about the MAIDENs

Well, if you think about it with an open mind opinion, you will see that all Iron Maiden records are ranging from very good to AWESOME ,, there are Maiden weak record, even Bayley era had many great highs, but fans dislike it because they wana hear Dickinson.

Final Frontier is just another good addition into the legacy, although its little bet disappointing, because we are talking about the MAIDENs

Oh, hell no. Not this again.

You're really contorting what being "open-minded" is.

Indeed. It has nothing to do with this pointless 'open-mindedness' argument but with tastes and not liking some material. Some people think every Maiden album has something to offer and it's their right but, personally, I think this band released many average at best albums and a few shitty ones.
We're not forced to like everything and it doesn't mean we're less 'open-minded'.

I bought it and rate it a 7 which means for those who don't know I think it's GOOD.

what's so funny?

Oh... I thought you were being like... sarcastically obvious with that statement.

I kinda was because of all the fanboyism commotion that is happening.

Heinosity - 30.08.2010 at 04:19

OK OK!

I know I've said some shitty things about this album, and Iron Maiden (who is my favorite metal band of all time) lately. I TAKE IT ALL BACK RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW, and GIVE MYSELF 30 lashings with a cat o' nine tails! Ok, I hired a Mexican to do it...ehhh he enjoyed it...fuck you. ANYWAY. In my last shitty, moronic post, I said something like after listening to this album 10 times I thought it was weak as hell, along with other choice descriptors, and that they need to stop where they are so they can save some of their legendary status before destroying it. OK, here it is, my review of this album after listening to it 30 or 40 times, stoned, drunk, sober, happy, sad, pissed off, and whatever else...I have to say I that at this point it is now the BEST Maiden album since their reunion...That's right, you heard me. I'm not a fucking idiot, I'm, well maybe I am an asshole, but an idiot / poser I am not. I have picked over every second of every Maiden album like some sort of obsessed freak. I have listened to Maiden and worshipped the ground they walk upon for over 25 years now. This album is BAD - FUCKING - ASS. SERIOUSLY. Listen to it! REALLY listen to it. YES, do it buzzed, or do it sober for that matter, but read the fucking lyrics and try to really absorb every riff, every melody, seriously delve into this album. Yes, I know the tracks are long and some of the parts are repetitive, just listen to it! They have gone a little bit prog, which is actually NOT new ground to them. Seventh Son anybody? Anyway, some have said they do prog poorly, but I'm BEGGING YOU PEOPLE. LISTEN TO IT AGAIN without your Powerslave ears on. Some of the prog guitar parts are actually so complex that you will never grasp it like any regular old school Maiden riff. In fact, I would say it is like grateful dead type abstract. Not that I like hippy jam bands, but I had ALWAYS told my grateful dead / phish / widespread panic loving dumbass / metal deprived friends that if there was ever a metal band close to this kind of outward jamming, it was Iron Maiden. Err well, or Opeth, but that's a different story...

I think this album is SERIOUSLY misunderstood, most hard-core Maiden fans are missing the point entirely (I did), and I understand why now. Don't hate me godddamnit. Vote this album up, change your votes, listen to it again and forget about trying to recreate Seventh Son of a Seventh Son because it is not going to happen. And yes, in case you are wondering...I'm a bit drunk, but that makes this particular post even more credible as far as I'm concerned. Also, don't forget this is a Iron Maidein album like all of the others. Different subject matter for each song. The only consistant "concept" to this album is the first track with Satellite 15...Final Frontier. The rest of the songs are independant, and are about really cool shit. Watch the "Mission Debriefing" for The Final Frontier on Youtube.

UP THE GOD DAMN IRONS! EDDIE WILL NOT ONLY FUCK YOUR SHIT UP, BUT NOWADAYS HE"LL DO IT WITH HORRIFYING, SCIENTIFIC DIGITAL PRECISION. UP THE 21ST CENTURY TOO YOU FUCKS! NO MORE WARS WITH IDIOTIC ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS. LETS EXPLORE SPACE n SHIT instead.

Anyone else tired of turning on the news and hearing about Iraq, Iran, Afghanstan, Hamas, and Al Queda? I want to see if there are fish people living on Europa, not hear about another worthless douchebag named Muhammad blowing up other human beings for not worshipping the same INVISIBLE MAN that he does...or having as cool a beard.

I don't want another Seventh Son or onother powerslave; Maiden is ok as it is now; listening to the album, i kinda felt they had fun recotding this, the music is enjoyable so the result is positive, but still not a superlative (IMHO obviously).

I know I've said some shitty things about this album, and Iron Maiden (who is my favorite metal band of all time) lately. I TAKE IT ALL BACK RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW, and GIVE MYSELF 30 lashings with a cat o' nine tails! Ok, I hired a Mexican to do it...ehhh he enjoyed it...fuck you. ANYWAY. In my last shitty, moronic post, I said something like after listening to this album 10 times I thought it was weak as hell, along with other choice descriptors, and that they need to stop where they are so they can save some of their legendary status before destroying it. OK, here it is, my review of this album after listening to it 30 or 40 times, stoned, drunk, sober, happy, sad, pissed off, and whatever else...I have to say I that at this point it is now the BEST Maiden album since their reunion...That's right, you heard me. I'm not a fucking idiot, I'm, well maybe I am an asshole, but an idiot / poser I am not. I have picked over every second of every Maiden album like some sort of obsessed freak. I have listened to Maiden and worshipped the ground they walk upon for over 25 years now. This album is BAD - FUCKING - ASS. SERIOUSLY. Listen to it! REALLY listen to it. YES, do it buzzed, or do it sober for that matter, but read the fucking lyrics and try to really absorb every riff, every melody, seriously delve into this album. Yes, I know the tracks are long and some of the parts are repetitive, just listen to it! They have gone a little bit prog, which is actually NOT new ground to them. Seventh Son anybody? Anyway, some have said they do prog poorly, but I'm BEGGING YOU PEOPLE. LISTEN TO IT AGAIN without your Powerslave ears on. Some of the prog guitar parts are actually so complex that you will never grasp it like any regular old school Maiden riff. In fact, I would say it is like grateful dead type abstract. Not that I like hippy jam bands, but I had ALWAYS told my grateful dead / phish / widespread panic loving dumbass / metal deprived friends that if there was ever a metal band close to this kind of outward jamming, it was Iron Maiden. Err well, or Opeth, but that's a different story...

I think this album is SERIOUSLY misunderstood, most hard-core Maiden fans are missing the point entirely (I did), and I understand why now. Don't hate me godddamnit. Vote this album up, change your votes, listen to it again and forget about trying to recreate Seventh Son of a Seventh Son because it is not going to happen. And yes, in case you are wondering...I'm a bit drunk, but that makes this particular post even more credible as far as I'm concerned. Also, don't forget this is a Iron Maidein album like all of the others. Different subject matter for each song. The only consistant "concept" to this album is the first track with Satellite 15...Final Frontier. The rest of the songs are independant, and are about really cool shit. Watch the "Mission Debriefing" for The Final Frontier on Youtube.

UP THE GOD DAMN IRONS! EDDIE WILL NOT ONLY FUCK YOUR SHIT UP, BUT NOWADAYS HE"LL DO IT WITH HORRIFYING, SCIENTIFIC DIGITAL PRECISION. UP THE 21ST CENTURY TOO YOU FUCKS! NO MORE WARS WITH IDIOTIC ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS. LETS EXPLORE SPACE n SHIT instead.

Anyone else tired of turning on the news and hearing about Iraq, Iran, Afghanstan, Hamas, and Al Queda? I want to see if there are fish people living on Europa, not hear about another worthless douchebag named Muhammad blowing up other human beings for not worshipping the same INVISIBLE MAN that he does...or having as cool a beard.

I know I've said some shitty things about this album, and Iron Maiden (who is my favorite metal band of all time) lately. I TAKE IT ALL BACK RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW, and GIVE MYSELF 30 lashings with a cat o' nine tails! Ok, I hired a Mexican to do it...ehhh he enjoyed it...fuck you. ANYWAY. In my last shitty, moronic post, I said something like after listening to this album 10 times I thought it was weak as hell, along with other choice descriptors, and that they need to stop where they are so they can save some of their legendary status before destroying it. OK, here it is, my review of this album after listening to it 30 or 40 times, stoned, drunk, sober, happy, sad, pissed off, and whatever else...I have to say I that at this point it is now the BEST Maiden album since their reunion...That's right, you heard me. I'm not a fucking idiot, I'm, well maybe I am an asshole, but an idiot / poser I am not. I have picked over every second of every Maiden album like some sort of obsessed freak. I have listened to Maiden and worshipped the ground they walk upon for over 25 years now. This album is BAD - FUCKING - ASS. SERIOUSLY. Listen to it! REALLY listen to it. YES, do it buzzed, or do it sober for that matter, but read the fucking lyrics and try to really absorb every riff, every melody, seriously delve into this album. Yes, I know the tracks are long and some of the parts are repetitive, just listen to it! They have gone a little bit prog, which is actually NOT new ground to them. Seventh Son anybody? Anyway, some have said they do prog poorly, but I'm BEGGING YOU PEOPLE. LISTEN TO IT AGAIN without your Powerslave ears on. Some of the prog guitar parts are actually so complex that you will never grasp it like any regular old school Maiden riff. In fact, I would say it is like grateful dead type abstract. Not that I like hippy jam bands, but I had ALWAYS told my grateful dead / phish / widespread panic loving dumbass / metal deprived friends that if there was ever a metal band close to this kind of outward jamming, it was Iron Maiden. Err well, or Opeth, but that's a different story...

I think this album is SERIOUSLY misunderstood, most hard-core Maiden fans are missing the point entirely (I did), and I understand why now. Don't hate me godddamnit. Vote this album up, change your votes, listen to it again and forget about trying to recreate Seventh Son of a Seventh Son because it is not going to happen. And yes, in case you are wondering...I'm a bit drunk, but that makes this particular post even more credible as far as I'm concerned. Also, don't forget this is a Iron Maidein album like all of the others. Different subject matter for each song. The only consistant "concept" to this album is the first track with Satellite 15...Final Frontier. The rest of the songs are independant, and are about really cool shit. Watch the "Mission Debriefing" for The Final Frontier on Youtube.

UP THE GOD DAMN IRONS! EDDIE WILL NOT ONLY FUCK YOUR SHIT UP, BUT NOWADAYS HE"LL DO IT WITH HORRIFYING, SCIENTIFIC DIGITAL PRECISION. UP THE 21ST CENTURY TOO YOU FUCKS! NO MORE WARS WITH IDIOTIC ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS. LETS EXPLORE SPACE n SHIT instead.

Anyone else tired of turning on the news and hearing about Iraq, Iran, Afghanstan, Hamas, and Al Queda? I want to see if there are fish people living on Europa, not hear about another worthless douchebag named Muhammad blowing up other human beings for not worshipping the same INVISIBLE MAN that he does...or having as cool a beard.

Best post ever.

Agreed. I would put it in my sig, but it's too big (rhyming FTW). And only using a part of the post in my sig isn't good enough.

UP THE GOD DAMN IRONS! EDDIE WILL NOT ONLY FUCK YOUR SHIT UP, BUT NOWADAYS HE"LL DO IT WITH HORRIFYING, SCIENTIFIC DIGITAL PRECISION. UP THE 21ST CENTURY TOO YOU FUCKS! NO MORE WARS WITH IDIOTIC ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS. LETS EXPLORE SPACE n SHIT instead.

I know I've said some shitty things about this album, and Iron Maiden (who is my favorite metal band of all time) lately. I TAKE IT ALL BACK RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW, and GIVE MYSELF 30 lashings with a cat o' nine tails! Ok, I hired a Mexican to do it...ehhh he enjoyed it...fuck you. ANYWAY. In my last shitty, moronic post, I said something like after listening to this album 10 times I thought it was weak as hell, along with other choice descriptors, and that they need to stop where they are so they can save some of their legendary status before destroying it. OK, here it is, my review of this album after listening to it 30 or 40 times, stoned, drunk, sober, happy, sad, pissed off, and whatever else...I have to say I that at this point it is now the BEST Maiden album since their reunion...That's right, you heard me. I'm not a fucking idiot, I'm, well maybe I am an asshole, but an idiot / poser I am not. I have picked over every second of every Maiden album like some sort of obsessed freak. I have listened to Maiden and worshipped the ground they walk upon for over 25 years now. This album is BAD - FUCKING - ASS. SERIOUSLY. Listen to it! REALLY listen to it. YES, do it buzzed, or do it sober for that matter, but read the fucking lyrics and try to really absorb every riff, every melody, seriously delve into this album. Yes, I know the tracks are long and some of the parts are repetitive, just listen to it! They have gone a little bit prog, which is actually NOT new ground to them. Seventh Son anybody? Anyway, some have said they do prog poorly, but I'm BEGGING YOU PEOPLE. LISTEN TO IT AGAIN without your Powerslave ears on. Some of the prog guitar parts are actually so complex that you will never grasp it like any regular old school Maiden riff. In fact, I would say it is like grateful dead type abstract. Not that I like hippy jam bands, but I had ALWAYS told my grateful dead / phish / widespread panic loving dumbass / metal deprived friends that if there was ever a metal band close to this kind of outward jamming, it was Iron Maiden. Err well, or Opeth, but that's a different story...

I think this album is SERIOUSLY misunderstood, most hard-core Maiden fans are missing the point entirely (I did), and I understand why now. Don't hate me godddamnit. Vote this album up, change your votes, listen to it again and forget about trying to recreate Seventh Son of a Seventh Son because it is not going to happen. And yes, in case you are wondering...I'm a bit drunk, but that makes this particular post even more credible as far as I'm concerned. Also, don't forget this is a Iron Maidein album like all of the others. Different subject matter for each song. The only consistant "concept" to this album is the first track with Satellite 15...Final Frontier. The rest of the songs are independant, and are about really cool shit. Watch the "Mission Debriefing" for The Final Frontier on Youtube.

UP THE GOD DAMN IRONS! EDDIE WILL NOT ONLY FUCK YOUR SHIT UP, BUT NOWADAYS HE"LL DO IT WITH HORRIFYING, SCIENTIFIC DIGITAL PRECISION. UP THE 21ST CENTURY TOO YOU FUCKS! NO MORE WARS WITH IDIOTIC ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS. LETS EXPLORE SPACE n SHIT instead.

Anyone else tired of turning on the news and hearing about Iraq, Iran, Afghanstan, Hamas, and Al Queda? I want to see if there are fish people living on Europa, not hear about another worthless douchebag named Muhammad blowing up other human beings for not worshipping the same INVISIBLE MAN that he does...or having as cool a beard.

great post man, now after i listened to it for more than 15 times its a really great album like you said great lyrics, and i cant agree more with last part of ur post it makes me sick man

I know a person who needed 2 years to admit, that AMOLAD really is worth album...but he did in the end

i think the biggest and only problem with "new" Maiden is fans still stuck to past...if the band still play same heavy metal as in 80ties many people would complain they're not evolving...but they evolved and now many people complain they did...

I know a person who needed 2 years to admit, that AMOLAD really is worth album...but he did in the end

i think the biggest and only problem with "new" Maiden is fans still stuck to past...if the band still play same heavy metal as in 80ties many people would complain they're not evolving...but they evolved and now many people complain they did...

Nope the problem with modern Maiden is that it is boring, overdrawn, totally pointless. They didn't evolve. For that would implicate they got better. They devolved. Change doesn't necessarily mean it gets better. Hell, they changed from album to album back in the day and you heard no one complain back then that they got worse. It all went downhill after Seventh Son, there is more change musically between the first seven albums than between all the albums afterwards.

I know a person who needed 2 years to admit, that AMOLAD really is worth album...but he did in the end

i think the biggest and only problem with "new" Maiden is fans still stuck to past...if the band still play same heavy metal as in 80ties many people would complain they're not evolving...but they evolved and now many people complain they did...

Nope the problem with modern Maiden is that it is boring, overdrawn, totally pointless. They didn't evolve. For that would implicate they got better. They devolved. Change doesn't necessarily mean it gets better. Hell, they changed from album to album back in the day and you heard no one complain back then that they got worse. It all went downhill after Seventh Son, there is more change musically between the first seven albums than between all the albums afterwards.

Totally agreed, Marcel.

Maiden is extremely stale since "Fear Of The Dark" and even more since "Dance Of Death". They basically release the same thing all the time, only with poorer results each time. Each new album is more boring than the last.
They changed after SSOASS but it was for the worst, indeed. It's not evolution but devolution.