When I fisrt saw Hit-Girl's debut I couldn't even decide what the hell is that. Before that, it was dumb jokes about a nerd's life and some cool fighting, then this little girl in purple jumps in and fuckin slaughters everyone. I couldn't place it

>>1829I thought that was ridiculous because anyone who actually reads manga is used to see this "killer lolita" shit. Every fucking seinen/shonen manga has at least one 10/11 year old girl/boy killing people. Hit-Girl is a total rip-off of other characters, mostly japanese ones. Millar was like Tarantino. He took something that is normal some other culture's media and brought to the american one as something shocking and new, when actually it isn't.

Apparently that was something brand new for the general american audience though.

inb4 people talking about tarantino

>>1825I'm not saying he doesn't look tough by his own merits, but I think some of those scenes were mostly CGI and prosthetics. Basically the same Pattinson had to do for New Moon.

>>1864We are talking about Mark Millar. Ripping off everything is his life. He did it with Wanted and Nemesis. Manga is his source material. Also, Hit-Girl, according to him, was based on rambo and other characters such as the Punisher.

Sometimes he writes some good shit. Civil War is my personal favorite. Superman Red Son is good as well.

>>202814But there's no good reason for a change except for "aaaw it's rape! we can't put rape in a movie! mimimimi".>>202813I don't know if colonel will die in the movie. I'm just saying that I hope he does.

>>1887My dear Master, consider this:- You say: I want him to dieThis could mean 2 things for the likes of me who doesn't read the comics:1. He does die and now you revealed that he does2. He is such a bad guy that you wanted him to die, but he didn't died

Either way it's a spoiler and now you said he dies which was my first impression, that's why I said spoiler. Not the basic thing you said, but the information behind it, which could be deducted in a sec>Oh boy, I am a part of another lengthy argument

The problem with these kick-ass movies is that the violence in them is a graphic funny violence, not the creepy and shocking kind (like in the comics). Scenes like the dog's head, colonel stars, katie's rape and big daddy's torture are completely ignored in the movies.

I seriously want them to change this with this sequel, but I don't really think they will.

That is not spoilers. Deducting things from what people say about movies is normal. Also, just like Big Daddy, Colonel Stars is the "adult male superhero" of this film. His death could lead Kick-Ass and Hit-Girl to go crazy and avenge him, just like they did in the first film for Big Daddy.

Formatting a creative work from a comic to a movie is bound to be different. The first KA had some comedic aspects as well, I just hope that KA2 doesn't go so far into comedy that it loses it's original value

>>1912looolin the comic we find out he was lying the whole time and he was an asshole who deserved what he got, you get a character you feel jack shit when he's dead

in the movie you have a terrifying scene where a daughter is racing to save her dad that's being burned aliveall this while he is screaming instructions as heradd to that the fantastic idea with the strobe and the visuals that go with itthe first person sequence plus two gut punching tracks and you have a scene that the comic could never hope to achieve

>>1922Sure. But for example the first Superman comic is out for more than 70 years, but I still haven't read it. What if I want to read it in 2 years and someone spoils it?>Should I abandon this or continue my useless fight with the general opipion?

>>1923the comic is for comic book nerds and I am not one. I like a good and fun story and some characters I can relate to

in the comic damon is a sick fuck who kidnapped his daugher to expose her to a life of crime and constant mortal peril - I did not give a single fuck when he died

in the movie he is a disturbed but loving father - his death was the most powerful moment in the movie

in the comic chris is a front to back cunt who jerks off to the idea of killing dage

in the movie you can actually empathize with him. You can see the kid locked up in the tower trying his best to please his dad. Sure, he shot hitgirl but he wanted kick-ass freed. He was infinitely better

in the comic frank has zero personality

in the movie you can see that despite being a ruthless crime boss, he is also a loving father trying to protect his son

>>1927He was just a comic book nerd pretending to be a police agent when he actually just wanted to be a superhero. Mindy's life is based on a lie. All that shit he bought was with money he got by selling his comic book collection. Big Daddy is a big liar. That was great. He was just like Kick-Ass. Just some idiot who wanted to be a superhero.

Aside from the fact that it IS possible to enjoy something even when you've read a spoiler (though obviously not quite as much), if someone wasn't interested in watching something in the first place, then reading a spoiler doesn't affect them.

To go back to your Superman thing above, as you mentioned, the comic book is 70 years old, if you were THAT interested in it, you'd have read it by now, so if someone posts a spoiler you can't really go "Hey! I wanted to read that someday, but you've ruined it for me now!"… well… IT'S 70 YEARS OLD, WHAT STOPPED YOU READING IT BEFORE.

>>1944I'm a későn érő típus (someone who requires much more time to mature than others), it took me 2 years to watch KA in the first place… So who knows, who or what will be my next thing of interest which doesn't interst me at all now?

>>1943I wrote a long paragraph explain why the characters were better in the movie, and I didn't even mention Hit-girland you conclude>Don't mind him. It's good to know some people actually cares about character, [..] not just CHLOE CHLOE CHLOE.

>>1941>you can be a fan of emma watson and the HP movies without caring about the books

This reminds me of a girl I knew a few years ago who claimed to be the biggest twilight fan. Then I said twilight sucks and asked her something about the books and she said "I only watch the movies". DON'T. BE. THAT. PERSON.

>>1953>This reminds me of a girl I knew a few years ago who claimed to be the biggest twilight fan. Then I said twilight sucks and asked her something about the books and she said "I only watch the movies". DON'T. BE. THAT. PERSON.This reminds me of an idiot who said stupid shit constantly.

I read the comics. I also know a lot of people didn't and we don't want to spoil the movie for them

>>1960>Oh, so by most people you mean the people who goes to theatres watch Michael Bay movies and think Avengers is a masterpiece, and not the actual fans? Ok. Most people can die anyway.By most people I mean guys who are not comic book nerds. people who could see a movie and then be interested in the comic it;s based on, read it and form a pertinent opinion

as opposed to comic book nerds crying that a comic book catered specifically to them is not faithful when it turns into a movie

>>1971It's not about being 100% faithful. Is about remaining true to the character. Big Daddy IS NOT the same character in the movies. They've completely changed him. He's not even the same character anymore. The whole point of "he was just a average loser like kick-ass" was lost. Just like the "hit-girl is a poor girl who had her life built around a lie" plot.

Same goes for Kick-Ass who's actually a loser, and not that guy that we've seen in the movie. In the comics Kick-Ass is Earl. In the movie he's having sex with Katie in the streets, for fuck's sake.

You can do some good shit without being 100% faithful. But at least be faithful to the characters.

>>1976Listen, you or someone else said that is for an adult audience. The purpose of a movie sadly and most of the time is to make loads of moneeeeey, and it can't be attractive to everyone if they use a source material with dark stuff and that things you wanted to see…

>>1977I don't give a shit if it's faithful to the character. If they made the story and the character better and that results in a more enjoyable movie then by all means let them change whatever they please.

All I want is a good movie and got that.If some comic book fanboys are crying that it's not sticking to canon then I really couldn't care less.

>>1979>is one of manyif for you the principal character is "one of many" i don't know what to tell you. However the entire story works more good in the comic,the characters are realistic (frank not,it's true,but in the comic the villain is chris,not his father) and in a story about real life superheroes its a good thing.

I saw kick ass first then I bought the comic.I'm going to watck kick ass 2 first then buy the comic too.I also always watch movies first then go buy the book if movie was great.Reason: movies almost always gets "watered" down to fit the magic 1:40 - 2:00 hour mark. So if you read book or comic first you'll have a bigger chance of getting annoyed or disappointed that they left stuff out, while if you watch the movie first you'll feel happy read more in depth descriptions and learn about smaller characters etc. It feels like reading the extended cut of the movie.

>>2019But if you like me saw the movie first you wouldn't have been disappointed, but thought it was great.

And then when I read the comic I thought interesting what had been changed and just thought this was better in movie and that was better in comic and those other things I could understand had to change etc.

>>2021maybe you simply don't like the comics in general….read again the comic and try to imagine to see a movie (and for a moment forget the movie). Maybe u can appreciate much more the original story.

>>2024I was generalizing. Kick-ass is a good example of characters well transferred - except the already mentioned changes. Just lik LOTR are a good example of great book to movie adaptation staying true to the books (still with differences, but far less than you usually see).But mostly it is as I wrote earlier.

all things considered the movie is still prolly gonna be B+/A- for me, but between the:-hit-girl costume being off-questionable lines-questionable delivery of 'the game' on line-different shooting style-bad green screen-worse overall picture quality

Nah seriously, I think it looks fucking amazing. It's at the top of my must see list, for sure. It's going to be a long, long wait until August.

You know, after all this time anticipating it, over analyzing each photo released, and discussing wether Wadlow could make a good movie, it's kinda surreal FINALLY seeing this thing in motion. But for me, it's living up to the hype.

Another good point that someone else brought up: all the scenes here take place during the day while a lot of the scenes in the original took place during the night. It might not sound like much but it definitely felt more atmospheric the first time.

>>2182>>2183>>2184>>2185>>2187>I've watched that trailer at least 30 times today. Nothing in that trailer has me worried about the film. The exact opposite actually. I was worried about the costume before, when we only saw it in stills. I'm fine with how it looks.

>>2190and I've watched it like 30 times too and I've read others people's opinions and I can't help but agree with them

poor line delivery from Chloëthe lines themselves are not that great eithercinematography is worseshot during the day instead of during the night does not helpconsiderably lower budget (compare the warehouse to the library and the whole of d'amico's apartment)worse costume and mask (though the mask looked good in some scenes)Chloë pouting (that duckface will be the death of me)mediocre action scenes (they made the first one so great and each and every one of them was unique; now we get hit-girl fighting 3 guys in an alleyway …. whop-de-doo)

>>2193noactually this time around they made hit-girl into a more developed character so that's not the issueand stuff such as image qualitybad lines and deliverymediocre action scenes and so on have nothing to do with that

Someone else brought that up in the Kick-Ass 2 IMDB page. They made comparisons between some of her infamous lines from the first movie and the brief dialogues spoken in this new trailer. Something about it just doesn't feel as energetic as the first movie so it's leaving me slightly worried.

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