I can't stand Komen, but as a nonprofit professional for the past 25 years, I can tell you it's not asinine at all that they wouldn't accept this donation. Charities aren't obligated to accept money that doesn't come from sources aligned with their values or that might attach their brand to things that their other supporters might find unsavory. I tell charities all the time that there is such a thing as "bad" money.

CSB time: When I was with the United Way, a wealthy gentleman offered us the largest individual gift we'd ever had, with one major restriction: we had to ensure that not a single dime was used to provide any services to illegal immigrants. We could have rationalized a way to fund things that were less likely to serve illegal immigrants, but it would have set a horrible precedent. Wee turned it down. "Bad" money.

Elzar:Donating to breast cancer research is admirable, but methinks this is just a publicity stunt for pornhub. I'll wait for them to donate to animal shelters for all the kittens that go missing everyday.

Fear_and_Loathing:Howie Spankowitz: I tell charities all the time that there is such a thing as "bad" money.

I worked for non-profits for 30 years. Unfortunately, most don't understand the concept of bad money and also mistakenly believe there is free money.

I have lots of stories, but none of them are "CSB". Sadly.

Exactly. Especially when you decide to accept corporate money. Corporations don't do philanthropy. They'll use the language of philanthropy, but what they do is marketing, and if you accept their money, you better know how to negotiate a gift agreement and understand the value of your charity's brand or the relationship will be imbalanced and...well, let's just say I could tell you some horror stories.

Of course, there's no such thing as medium tits, C cup and under are apparently considered a small niche market for men who are gay and/or secretly pedos. Or maybe it's D cup and under now that's considered small, I'm not up on the latest trends of breast size criticisms.

How about we just donate to regular cancer research? I think we can stop the multimillion dollar, paint everything pink, breast cancer "awareness" campaigns. We're all aware of it by now. Breast cancer is a thing. Can we stop treating it like it's the special snowflake of cancer?

FunkOut:Of course, there's no such thing as medium tits, C cup and under are apparently considered a small niche market for men who are gay and/or secretly pedos. Or maybe it's D cup and under now that's considered small, I'm not up on the latest trends of breast size criticisms.

Komen is the worst, and I don't know why anyone would give them money anymore. The last straw was when they started suing any other charity that used "for the cure" in the name of any event. Remember, donations to Komen are donations to lawyers to sue other charities. Find another worthwhile cause.

Louisiana_Sitar_Club:FunkOut: Of course, there's no such thing as medium tits, C cup and under are apparently considered a small niche market for men who are gay and/or secretly pedos. Or maybe it's D cup and under now that's considered small, I'm not up on the latest trends of breast size criticisms.

Honest Bender:How about we just donate to regular cancer research? I think we can stop the multimillion dollar, paint everything pink, breast cancer "awareness" campaigns. We're all aware of it by now. Breast cancer is a thing. Can we stop treating it like it's the special snowflake of cancer?

A man is more likely to die from prostate cancer than a woman is from breast cancer, yet we have an entire month where I have to painstakingly avoid buying pink shiat because "OMG SAVE TEH TITTEHS".

FunkOut:Louisiana_Sitar_Club: FunkOut: Of course, there's no such thing as medium tits, C cup and under are apparently considered a small niche market for men who are gay and/or secretly pedos. Or maybe it's D cup and under now that's considered small, I'm not up on the latest trends of breast size criticisms.

FunkOut:Louisiana_Sitar_Club: FunkOut: Of course, there's no such thing as medium tits, C cup and under are apparently considered a small niche market for men who are gay and/or secretly pedos. Or maybe it's D cup and under now that's considered small, I'm not up on the latest trends of breast size criticisms.

You sound flat.

Yes, 34D is considered tiny these days. You're right.

Well, you see, often people will say something about people's perception of weight and the pat response "you sound fat" will almost always pop up at some point later in the thread. Now in this instance, you said that........oh never mind.

Vodka Zombie:Of course they won't. Haven't we learned that Komen is kind of the Phelps Family of breast cancer? They just exist to sue people and be political trolls.

You couldn't be more completely and utterly wrong. Someone I know was an accountant at Susan G Komen at their HQ in Dallas either right before or right after that whole controversy, and he said it was entirely a non-political event until the media decided to interpret it as such, at which point the organization was forced to make a scapegoat of their CEO over essentially nothing. Also, he said all those talk about the organization pocketing something ridiculous like 90% of the money they raised was complete bullshiat.

JesusJuice:Honest Bender: How about we just donate to regular cancer research? I think we can stop the multimillion dollar, paint everything pink, breast cancer "awareness" campaigns. We're all aware of it by now. Breast cancer is a thing. Can we stop treating it like it's the special snowflake of cancer?

A man is more likely to die from prostate cancer than a woman is from breast cancer, yet we have an entire month where I have to painstakingly avoid buying pink shiat because "OMG SAVE TEH TITTEHS".

Same problem colo-rectal cancer has, no one wants to think about prostates. There's a lot of emphasis on breast self exam but a lot of people have lower abdominal symptoms they just ignore that turn out to be cancer. They nee to publicise "signs you might have bowel/ovary/prostate cancer, get your ass to the doctor pronto" more.

Howie Spankowitz:I can't stand Komen, but as a nonprofit professional for the past 25 years, I can tell you it's not asinine at all that they wouldn't accept this donation. Charities aren't obligated to accept money that doesn't come from sources aligned with their values or that might attach their brand to things that their other supporters might find unsavory. I tell charities all the time that there is such a thing as "bad" money.

CSB time: When I was with the United Way, a wealthy gentleman offered us the largest individual gift we'd ever had, with one major restriction: we had to ensure that not a single dime was used to provide any services to illegal immigrants. We could have rationalized a way to fund things that were less likely to serve illegal immigrants, but it would have set a horrible precedent. Wee turned it down. "Bad" money.

Howie Spankowitz:Fear_and_Loathing: Howie Spankowitz: I tell charities all the time that there is such a thing as "bad" money.

I worked for non-profits for 30 years. Unfortunately, most don't understand the concept of bad money and also mistakenly believe there is free money.

I have lots of stories, but none of them are "CSB". Sadly.

Exactly. Especially when you decide to accept corporate money. Corporations don't do philanthropy. They'll use the language of philanthropy, but what they do is marketing, and if you accept their money, you better know how to negotiate a gift agreement and understand the value of your charity's brand or the relationship will be imbalanced and...well, let's just say I could tell you some horror stories.

That's the joke.

/Komen has existed solely for pinkwashing for years, who are they kidding with this?

Howie Spankowitz:Fear_and_Loathing: Howie Spankowitz: I tell charities all the time that there is such a thing as "bad" money.

I worked for non-profits for 30 years. Unfortunately, most don't understand the concept of bad money and also mistakenly believe there is free money.

I have lots of stories, but none of them are "CSB". Sadly.

Exactly. Especially when you decide to accept corporate money. Corporations don't do philanthropy. They'll use the language of philanthropy, but what they do is marketing, and if you accept their money, you better know how to negotiate a gift agreement and understand the value of your charity's brand or the relationship will be imbalanced and...well, let's just say I could tell you some horror stories.

I'm actually curious. Do go on. The back-handed evil deeds of others are fascinating to me.

/unless it's too much trouble//it's Fark, so there isn't anything in it for you

JesusJuice:Honest Bender: How about we just donate to regular cancer research? I think we can stop the multimillion dollar, paint everything pink, breast cancer "awareness" campaigns. We're all aware of it by now. Breast cancer is a thing. Can we stop treating it like it's the special snowflake of cancer?

A man is more likely to die from prostate cancer than a woman is from breast cancer, yet we have an entire month where I have to painstakingly avoid buying pink shiat because "OMG SAVE TEH TITTEHS".

Unfortunately you are 100% correct. My last two treatments made me feel so bad, I didn't even open the laptop for several days.But another view is that without cancer, the world would be VERY overpopulated.I'm allowed to say this because I might be one of those people. I faced the fact and have accepted it.There's worse ways to go, but we all get our shot at some time. I just hoped it would be at least long enough to have grandchildren..

BTW...When I kick the bucket, can we have an Atlanta Fark party and have a shiatload of fun?None of this sad crap!Most of my family doesn't know because they go off the deep end.I prefer people getting shiatfaced drunk and talking about being surprised after all of the broken bones, snake bites, jealous husbands, etc, I made it this long.

xen0blue:he said it was entirely a non-political event until the media decided to interpret it as such

They brought in a far right-wing conservative that failed in a bid to become Georgia's governor. The person had already made an effort to defund PP through the political process and was a very outspoken critic of abortion.

The idea of creating ridiculous rules about organizations under investigation (PP being the victim of a congressional witch hunt) was purely political. And, during this time, they continued to support PSU despite the federal investigations. It was 100% political. It was an "abortion is evil" crusade led by Karen Handel.

Of course, if Susan G. Komen hired a devout anti-abortion activist as their senior vice-president of public policy and didn't expect her to make up a bullshiat reason to stop funding Planned Parenthood, then maybe they are stupider than I thought.

yet_another_wumpus:Howie Spankowitz: Fear_and_Loathing: Howie Spankowitz: I tell charities all the time that there is such a thing as "bad" money.

I worked for non-profits for 30 years. Unfortunately, most don't understand the concept of bad money and also mistakenly believe there is free money.

I have lots of stories, but none of them are "CSB". Sadly.

Exactly. Especially when you decide to accept corporate money. Corporations don't do philanthropy. They'll use the language of philanthropy, but what they do is marketing, and if you accept their money, you better know how to negotiate a gift agreement and understand the value of your charity's brand or the relationship will be imbalanced and...well, let's just say I could tell you some horror stories.

That's the joke.

/Komen has existed solely for pinkwashing for years, who are they kidding with this?

CSBA company I worked for years ago had annual runs for United Way, Komen and some other popular charities. One year, during the Komen drive, the company that was contracted for my employer's food service was pushing an awareness menu. A special lunch and a pink frosted cupcake. I asked how much from the sales of the cupcakes were going to Komen. Answer, none./CSB