an understanding of the whole system that you counterbalance
that with what you have.

Lasker:

Well, we'll see. I'm not at all sure. We'll see what
I can do. I don't know.

Q:

I remember when the Johnson Administration came in, you were
somewhat doubtful then as to what might transpire.

Lasker:

Oh, well, but Johnson was always a friend, and I had always
for years been friendly with Johnson and Johnson was -- and
actually, except for the regional centers for Cancer, Heart and
Stroke, which now have, oh, about million this year, we didn't
get any new important legislation that represented new money in the
Johnson Administration. Now, is a very important place of
legislation, I must admit, in the health field, and I hope it
will become more so.

One thing I forgot to tell you is that Mr. Jules Stein
and his committee, Research to Prevent Blindness, was active, with
my help, in getting an institute -- an National Eye Institute
passed, in the House and Senate this year, and the money that was
in the National Neurological Institute for Blindness has now been
transferred to the National Eye Institute. It's a new institute
Just for blindness, or for the eyes.