^^^^ that looks great - but I am wondering when they will do an issue that focuses on Eloy, Atomic Rooster, VDGG or other more obscure bands. Its all so safe isnt it? Take a risk and expose the obscure bands for a change!

Back on topic: so the unsigned bands are paying for the production of the CD, and the magazine is pocketing at least the same amount.

In many cases, it is a "trade-out" ... and on the band's next tour or concerts in the area, the magazine can also be sold, or an advertisement for the new album was in the magazine, already paid. Of course, for those familiar with radio in the old FM days, a lot of those trade outs included, sex, drugs, rock'n'roll, dis-eases, LP's (then!) by the handful, dinners for all concubines -- but unffortunately, they did not cover ....................................................

So, of course an unknown band has to pay ... what does the magazine gain from the unknown band, until it is known? ... very little!

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^^^^ that looks great - but I am wondering when they will do an issue that focuses on Eloy, Atomic Rooster, VDGG or other more obscure bands. Its all so safe isnt it? Take a risk and expose the obscure bands for a change!

I would like a real issue on Krautrock ... not just an article smaller than my pee on the street!

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^^^^ that looks great - but I am wondering when they will do an issue that focuses on Eloy, Atomic Rooster, VDGG or other more obscure bands. Its all so safe isnt it? Take a risk and expose the obscure bands for a change!

There was an article about VdGG recently if I'm not mistaken. Unless that was in Classic Rock.

^^^^ that looks great - but I am wondering when they will do an issue that focuses on Eloy, Atomic Rooster, VDGG or other more obscure bands. Its all so safe isnt it? Take a risk and expose the obscure bands for a change!

CRP has given quite a bit of coverage to VdGG, actually. A lot of major articles / interviews, and even a namecheck in their ads for subscriptions. There has also been a fair amount of PH solo coverage (I recall a pretty lengthy article / interview in the issue with Hawkwind on the cover). And, of course, PH won the 'Maverick' award at the CRP event last year. So, CRP has certainly done right by VdGG / PH. True that I haven't seen much on Eloy or Atomic Rooster, though.

My advise for bands who are using their personal and limited funds (hard owned money) to pay 400 pounds for an advert in Classic Rock Presents Prog Mag, this price isw a rip of, not worth it considering that they will only get a tiny spread in the mag (hidden away even). It's not fair certainly not considering the amount they paid.
Many thing they will get a quarter spread magazine article, meanwhile it not will not even cover 10% of one page. Anyway to all :)

Edited by Kati - June 14 2013 at 20:24

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My advise for bands who are using their personal and limited funds (hard owned money) to pay 400 pounds for an advert in Classic Rock Presents Prog Mag, this price isw a rip of, not worth it considering that they will only get a tiny spread in the mag (hidden away even). It's not fair certainly not considering the amount they paid.
Many think they will get a quarter spread magazine article, meanwhile it not will not even cover 10% of one page. Anyway to all :)

^^^^ that looks great - but I am wondering when they will do an issue that focuses on Eloy, Atomic Rooster, VDGG or other more obscure bands. Its all so safe isnt it? Take a risk and expose the obscure bands for a change!

Scott, if you don't get it already, I'd recommend the US magazine `Progression'. It's a bit harder to track down, doesn't come out nearly as often and has more black and white pages, but I don't think I've read an issue of CRP that comes even close to being as good as this alternative. They've had plenty of long and in-depth interviews/articles over the years, as well as giving plenty of exposure to smaller/unknown bands.

Also in my opinion bands should not pay to have one of their songs in one of their monthly issue CD. Quality should be the magazine's discreet and the consumer pay enough to cover those costs and beyond. I feel bad for bands who really cannot afford to spend this kind of money but are drawn to this fake belief that it will make a difference. 400 and 700 pounds depending what you choose will pay for 1000 printed cd's, this says enough. If it would make a difference, oh yes but I don't think it does this is why I feel REALLY bad for those eager bands who are trying their best to get noticed meanwhile have a family to care of and a day job.

Edited by Kati - June 14 2013 at 20:56

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Also in my opinion bands should not pay to have one of their songs in one of their monthly issue CD. Quality should be the magazine's discreet and the consumer pay enough to cover those costs and beyond. I feel bad for bands who really cannot afford to spend this kind of money but are drawn to this fake belief that it will make a difference. 400 and 700 pounds depending what you choose will pay for 1000 printed cd's, this says enough. If it would make a difference, oh yes but I don't think it does this is why I feel REALLY bad for those eager bands who are trying their best to get noticed meanwhile have a family to care of and a day job.

Don't all of us musicians wish this. Sadly, in the real world, it takes money to get these things done. :(

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^^^^ that looks great - but I am wondering when they will do an issue that focuses on Eloy, Atomic Rooster, VDGG or other more obscure bands. Its all so safe isnt it? Take a risk and expose the obscure bands for a change!

Scott, if you don't get it already, I'd recommend the US magazine `Progression'. It's a bit harder to track down, doesn't come out nearly as often and has more black and white pages, but I don't think I've read an issue of CRP that comes even close to being as good as this alternative. They've had plenty of long and in-depth interviews/articles over the years, as well as giving plenty of exposure to smaller/unknown bands.

Thanks for the heads up about 'Progression'....I've heard of it but never seen it anywhere near me.

I'll prolly have to order it on. line.

btw picked up the latest US copy of Prog Rock mag with Rush on the cover....typical issue with mostly well known bands and only a smattering of others.

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