Teresa, Bernie mentioned a particular number of delegates of his who are attending the convention. I forget the number. It was more than 1000.

It may be that Hillary has more delegates [EDIT: 54 percent], and that she won more states and more votes during the primaries.

So I guess Bernie's math is up to par, and he knows he cannot win the nomination. But he'll let the process go to completion, as seems proper, so that everything is above board, transparent, and demonstrated. Yet, once again, because his math is good, he gives his support to Hillary, even in advance of the formalities. I think this, among many other things, speaks well for his character, and his real concern for the U.S.A.

Thank you both. Although Im still confused Im trying to understand because if I dont understand i wont know who to support .. .. it appears that not all was above board even though thats how it is being presented. Im not talking conspiracy but more along the lines of not being completely clear intentionally. He/Bernie appeared to shift gears after his talk with the president. At any rate, it seems just a little weird to cast a vote based soley on not wanting "the other guy" to win, which is what the crux of what the Democatic message sounds like to me. Kind of a dont vote for anyone else other than Hillary, the same Hillary who Bernie outed but now supports.

p.s. I find that, once at the site's page above, if I go to "File" in the browser menu, and click on the item "Print Preview", the browser presents a nice few pages of text to read easily on-screen, without photos, ads, etc. Just a preference... . Although, ...the photo of Hillary is nice on the NYT page. -J.

Then I politely suggest someone, anyone, create a new thread that supports Hillary Clinton for president -- since anyone awake enough can see this thread supports Bernie Sanders specifically- And not all running as Democrats-

It's such a good word, thanks for bringing it in. It's also unsettling, because it's true in context.

Although, in some ways it's good that people change their minds. I'd say the USA is gradually and progressively liberalizing especially on certain domestic social issues.

We'll see if the candidates' "debate" scheduled for 01:00 UTC on Sept. 27 (Mon., Sept. 26, 9:00 PM EDST, or 6:00 PM PDST [or MST] ) will encourage any decision of support in those currently undecided (only two parties' candidates will be engaged, as the Libertarian Party and Green Party candidates didn't garner enough support to cross the threshhold of the "15%" rule for joining the debates).

Thanks you, usually ppl don't like it when I use that word (the labile ones) it's a funny demonstration when ppl are offended.But I'm done explaining irony to folks

I'll be watching too on cnn international at 03:00 here in the NL, I watch most of them if I remember it,always a fun observation with a bowl of chips, it's the same as I watched NGC or the discovery channel or some documentry from Jacques Cousteau as a kid, being in awe about the ways of animals or nature, I watch politics like David Attenborough would do I guess, but without the narrative. Human behaviour is a funny thing

Trump was vexated from the first to the last minute, Hilary was her regular water duck. Trump bringing up his temperament was funny, the irony lol. Whatever any of them said isn't important, you don't get at the top without deceit and manipulation, so its funny to ovserve when they attack each others character, again the irony lol. Further every microphone held under the nose of voters or anyone on both side who works on the campain is hilarious too, no one thinks for themselves they're just broken records and copies of imitations, I'm flabbergasted at ppls IQ's to be honest.

It was interesting but I might have well could have watched a documentry about bonobos, I didn't see anything historical, just more of the same.

I still can not understand how anyone can think that one candidate is better than the other and that does not apply just to these presidential candidates, but politicians in general.

As Fukasetsu said, they all came to where they are with manipulation. if one was less manipulative so to speak, it is just because he/she did not have the opportunities or the right conditions to climb higher on the ladder of power. And if Bernie was really honest politician (if there is such thing at all) he would not support or endorse a criminal for president.

And what Joe said that people changing their minds is in some ways good and there is a progress in certain areas ( not just in USA, but worldwide ), although I agree with that, would say that progress is not due to the president or the government competence or willingness, although they do take the credit for that

"There is no vestige of a beginning, no prospect of an end" - James Hutton

fukasetsu wrote: Further every microphone held under the nose of voters or anyone on both side who works on the campain is hilarious too, no one thinks for themselves they're just broken records and copies of imitations, I'm flabbergasted at ppls IQ's to be honest.

That is how people are in general, but it is more evident during political campaigns The black sheep are rarity these days.

"There is no vestige of a beginning, no prospect of an end" - James Hutton