4.3 Rogue Legendary Preview

Everyone was curious how Blizzard could out-do the on-use effect of Dragonwrath--well, they've just released a preview of the 4.3 legendary daggers!

Happy Friday, everyone!

We'd like to get this day started by offering you a first look at the legendary daggers coming with the patch 4.3 raid, Dragon Soul. We've got them set up on a night elf rogue wearing the upcoming tier 13 armor.

Comment by Fenrari

Now to beg the developers to give the daggers a name that is a pun of Red Bull

Comment by Inuyaxa

on 2011-09-23T12:03:12-05:00

FINALLY, i knew they would put wings eventually into the game, rogues rule :D

Comment by Monday

on 2011-09-23T12:09:37-05:00

1: They give you wings?

2: WAIT, THE DAGGERS AREN'T SHIVS MADE OUT OF (recently-drank) RED BULL CANS?

This is the secret...

Comment by weedgrower

on 2011-09-23T12:15:32-05:00

Oh yes , this looks so cool :)))

Comment by xoawolf

on 2011-09-23T12:17:19-05:00

Warriors and death knights can use the illidan glaives' and warriors death knights and paladins got shadowmourne.

There's a difference between can wield and should wield. A rogue SHOULD wield Twin Glaives, a DK and warrior CAN but SHOULD NOT wield them in order to be effective. This is class specific Legendary for only 1 class which is why it's raising so much controversy.

I'm not here to troll or complain but it doesn't quite make that much sense to me when one class literally gets not 1 (Thunderfury), not 2 (Warglaives of Azzinoth), not 3 and this one is debatable but IS still effective for a rogue (Thori'dal Stars' Fury), but FOUR Legendaries, over the course of four different WoW expansions and vanilla, where some class/roles have yet to even see a legendary cross their path.

Tanks still have nothing going for them.Feral druids nada.Shaman are in the dust.

Making these axes would at the very least allow shamans to use them, but I believe Blizz has plans to integrate this particular legendary to boost rogue specific abilities which would also lead to very interesting encounter designs. Even still, some people are feeling a bit left out.

10 bucks says this Legendary allows rogues to fly with out a "mount".

Comment by Adamsm

on 2011-09-23T12:20:59-05:00

10 bucks says this Legendary allows rogues to fly with out a "mount".

I'm betting not; look at how the rogue is posed...look familiar(just think of any the times we've seen him fall with batrangs in his hands)? Betting the wings are either from the armour set or a use from the daggers themselves.

Comment by xoawolf

on 2011-09-23T12:25:31-05:00

10 bucks says this Legendary allows rogues to fly with out a "mount".

I'm betting not; look at how the rogue is posed...look familiar(just think of any the times we've seen him fall with batrangs in his hands)? Betting the wings are either from the armour set or a use from the daggers themselves.

Yes i do realize its the fall animation but this is still in its testing phases and is not even on the PTR, I would not be surprised if the wings actually served a useful purpose.

Comment by Adamsm

on 2011-09-23T12:30:01-05:00

10 bucks says this Legendary allows rogues to fly with out a "mount".

I'm betting not; look at how the rogue is posed...look familiar(just think of any the times we've seen him fall with batrangs in his hands)? Betting the wings are either from the armour set or a use from the daggers themselves.

Yes i do realize its the fall animation but this is still in its testing phases and is not even on the PTR, I would not be surprised if the wings actually served a useful purpose.

The Warlock Helm wings didn't, beyond looking cool when flapping heh.

Comment by Kwylde

on 2011-09-23T12:34:11-05:00

Warriors and death knights can use the illidan glaives' and warriors death knights and paladins got shadowmourne.

There's a difference between can wield and should wield. A rogue SHOULD wield Twin Glaives, a DK and warrior CAN but SHOULD NOT wield them in order to be effective. This is class specific Legendary for only 1 class which is why it's raising so much controversy.

I'm not here to troll or complain but it doesn't quite make that much sense to me when one class literally gets not 1 (Thunderfury), not 2 (Warglaives of Azzinoth), not 3 and this one is debatable but IS still effective for a rogue (Thori'dal Stars' Fury), but FOUR Legendaries, over the course of four different WoW expansions and vanilla, where some class/roles have yet to even see a legendary cross their path.

I fail to see the logic in saying that warriors could not be effective using the glaives. Had an orc warrior on Lothar who had a pair and he ate the meters alive. Thori'dal may have been able to be wielded by rogues but as far as I remember only like 2 rogues actually even got it. Thunderfury is probably the worst case to make. Sure it was the cream of the crop for rogues all through Vanilla, but people fail to realize (and I love it when they complain stating it has never existed) that Thunderfury was indeed a tanking weapon as well, easily boasting the best threat generation of pretty much anything until Naxx dropped. And it was as far as legendary go a pretty common occurrence to see tanks with it.

On a side note, they are probably going to update the actual pose and overall idea of it...hopefully. I think they posed that rogue as such just to mess with people.

Comment by Rahnal

on 2011-09-23T12:37:00-05:00

So my age old PvP enemy has been upgraded to full Batman status? I'm a mix of excited and scared.

Comment by Rankkor

on 2011-09-23T12:38:54-05:00

SANTISIMA MADRE DEL DIOS TODO PODEROSO, PERO Q COÑO ES ESA VAINA?

O_O

Its in times like this where for just a slight brief instant, I kinda regret being a DK.

I mean, shadowmourne was a great weapon and all, but the quest to get it was soooo lame. (Farm some mats, kill some bosses on extra-hard mode, kill a thousand trash mobs, and voila, here's your weapon, gratz)

The quest for vala'nir was equally lame (gather a special plot-coupon from 4 bosses, farm mats, trow weapon to the last boss, and there u go, gratz GG)

The quests for Thunderfury and Sulfuras weren't impresive either, just a massive farm-fest (Main reason why I haven't bothered to gain them)

And the warglaives + Thoridal didn't even had quests, just an absurdly low drop rate.

Jeez, the quest for Quel'delar was more epic than the quests for every other legendary in the game at that time (Culminating in a grandiose ending on a phased version of the sunwell, with an even more special ending for the blood elven players)

Then along came cata, and there it was, Dragonwrath, EPIC QUESTLINE OF EPIC AWESOMENESS (I mean, yes you do have to farm mats, namely the embers and the cinders, but aside from those, you also pull off some SERIOUSLY AWESOME STUFF, such as entering the phased version of the nexus, and the whole deal of taking a place in the azure council to choose the next FRIKKING ASPECT OF MAGIC)

The quest even ended with an epic mass event on stormwind/orgrimmar. And it was then, that for the first time, I regretted that my class could not participate in such an epic adventure. The fact that the weapon allowed you to turn yourself into a blue dragon was an even sweeter bonus.

And now this..... U_U Yes, they are beutifull, grats to all the rogues for it, and I (genuinely) wish as many rogues as posible can get it, but man :S They already look like the quest will be just as epic (if not more so) than the one for dragonwrath

10 bucks says this Legendary allows rogues to fly with out a "mount".

I'm betting not; look at how the rogue is posed...look familiar(just think of any the times we've seen him fall with batrangs in his hands)? Betting the wings are either from the armour set or a use from the daggers themselves.

and I bet you the oposite.

Lets consider a few details bro'

A: look at those wings, do they remind you of something? yep, they look draconic, in fact black dragon wings. And the devs said that the rogue quest will deal heavily with the hatched purified black dragon egg taht has since become the first non-corrupt black dragon prince.

B: Look at where the rogue is standing....... any ground there? nope. If those were idle-animation for the tier set, he would have to be standing on the ground, otherwise, he'd have the falling animation.

and C: The previous legendary allowed the owner to transform him/herself into a mount, so I can tottaly see this being the case for the daggers. Those wings would indeed allow you to fly, they'd have a casting time of 1.5 secs, they would not be usable in combat, or in places where flight mounts without a ground animation can't be used (Such as the molten front, or BG's/arenas)

Comment by Kazlehoff

on 2011-09-23T12:39:30-05:00

Because the solution to an under preforming class is totally to give them a legendary instead of buffing the class.

4.3 SHOULD have been either a Feral / hunter polearm, a weapon set for Enhance shamans, or a tank legendary. (completely doable, 1h/2h mace that buffs str or agi dependent on highest stat)

rogues are now up to SIX legendaries.

Feral druids: 0 (sulfaras doesn't count, when it was current content guilds would have been laughed at if they gave sulfuras to a feral, let alone HAVING a feral.)Enh shams: 0 (had sulfuras, lost ability to use start of TBC)Tanks: 1 (Warrior only, palas used spellpower weaps at the time. shadowmourne was low HP and not an optimal solution)Warriors: 5 (glaive, glaive, bow (doesn't rly count), thunderfury, sulfaras, shadowmourne)Rogues: 6 (glaive, Glaive, Bow (was BiS in sunwell) thunderfury, Dagger, Dagger)Healers: 1 (Val'nar)Caster DPS: 2 (Atiesh, Dragonwrath)plus there was shadowmourne for War, Pala and DK.

wheres the effing Feral / Enh sham / hunter legendarys? blizzard made a stupid decision with rogue only daggers. they could AT LEAST have given shamans the ability to use them.

And Thori'ndal was a joke for hunters, the purple bow from Brutalis/Felmyst was BiS over the legendary. OOHH EXTRA BAG SLOT AND SPARKLY ARROWS THROUGH RITE RITE >.<

INB4FANDRALS: Legendarys are legendary because of there proc that increases dps/hps/threat or survivability. A Visual appearance buff does not a legendary make. otherwise there's a few trinkets that should be legendarys too, and quite a few other items that should be orange.

Comment by Adamsm

on 2011-09-23T12:45:02-05:00

and C: The previous legendary allowed the owner to transform him/herself into a mount, so I can tottaly see this being the case for the daggers. Those wings would indeed allow you to fly, they'd have a casting time of 1.5 secs, they would not be usable in combat, or in places where flight mounts without a ground animation can't be used (Such as the molten front, or BG's/arenas)

But that Rogue is falling Rank, not flying; if you could fly with those wings, it would just be hovering in the air.

Comment by pezz

on 2011-09-23T12:45:25-05:00

I hope Blizz nerfs recuperate after giving them a class only legendary. Otherwise it's going to be rogue domination in arena and pvp. DO. NOT. LIKE.

You're right! Weapons of a marginally higher ilvl with no resi on them mixed with a small passive self-heal is definitely enough to completely break PvP balance.

Comment by aerion

on 2011-09-23T12:46:14-05:00

I didn't care that rogues got another usable legendary. I didn't even care that it was for one class only. I simply, didn't, care.

But now.... I simply have no more words, I've poisoned myself with the amount of venom I have dripping from my tongue but I'm not gonna throw scathing remarks. It's just not worth it anymore.

The one thing I wanted above all else to be introduced in WoW since I started playing in Burning Crusade, the one thing I would've made all effort to join a "hardcore" guild and spend months farming for, now goes to the one class I will never, EVER, play.

You know what, to hell with this game. That is all.

Comment by Interest

on 2011-09-23T12:46:36-05:00

*!@#ing Batman.

(Actually, I thought of Illidan when I first saw this)

Comment by Rankkor

on 2011-09-23T12:49:05-05:00

and C: The previous legendary allowed the owner to transform him/herself into a mount, so I can tottaly see this being the case for the daggers. Those wings would indeed allow you to fly, they'd have a casting time of 1.5 secs, they would not be usable in combat, or in places where flight mounts without a ground animation can't be used (Such as the molten front, or BG's/arenas)

But that Rogue is falling Rank, not flying; if you could fly with those wings, it would just be hovering in the air.

o_O really? (my bad :P haven't used an alliance race in a while xD mostly a human pally and night elf druid, but since those can turn into birds, I've never seen mine on free fall)

Still though, those wings look like black dragon wings, so they are definitly NOT from the tier set, they are from the daggers (Which are obtained from a quest were we work for the Purified Black Dragon that hatched from that egg)

Wether or not those wings will allow you to fly, (in a similar vein of how running wild is the mount of the worgens) remains to be seen and will only be answered when they release the info.

That being said, the last legendary allowed its wielders to fly bro, so at this point, it wound't surprise me if these allowed the same too.