"Ok, maybe there is one like this, but for this to work, the people being Discussed cannot jump in the Debate, about their character for instance. If some one said Risky vs Sha. Neither me or Risky would be able to comment on who would win, it'd have to be decided by our peers.

But would they be allowed to point out when a debater has gotten their facts wrong though?

"Ok, maybe there is one like this, but for this to work, the people being Discussed cannot jump in the Debate, about their character for instance. If some one said Risky vs Sha. Neither me or Risky would be able to comment on who would win, it'd have to be decided by our peers.

But would they be allowed to point out when a debater has gotten their facts wrong though? "

Yep. They are not allowed to give points as to why there character would win.

Would say Akira. With him being back to his cyborg origins the technique advantage that Vica MAY have (don't forget Akira is a h2h master, too) is pretty much swept away by brute force and incredible speed.

" Would say Akira. With him being back to his cyborg origins the technique advantage that Vica MAY have (don't forget Akira is a h2h master, too) is pretty much swept away by brute force and incredible speed. "

Nice thread, wonder were you got the idea from :p It's easier to vote for Akira he has written his powers and skill in much more detail, so we get a much better idea of what he is capable of. Vica only has his powers down without going into detail. Ive also read more of what Akira can do so on that basis I go with him. His death spores combined with his combat skills and other powers should grant him the win. I would argue Vica, mostly due to his magic but im unsure how good his magic is. Akira ftw At least for now xD

" Akira: As this is hand to hand he would probably beat him with brute force, though Vica is about eight hundred years old "

Actually he was 665, but I like the sound of 800 better, so maybe I'll change it... XP

As I lack a bio still, I'll give people the main point to help them with deciding

The Vica is many centuries old (600, 800, take your pick, lol) and has been fighting for the vast majority of that time. When he was 12 years old he travelled to our world and was taught the ways of magic by a group of monks. His form of magic is the same as the system used in the Inheritance series of books. Then, traveling back to his own world, he learned how to fight, eventually joining the elite Dog Warriors, fighters who were deemed worthy by the Dog Avatar. (in his world there are 12 spirits based on the animals of the Chinese Zodiac, each representing a specific trait) After a few years as a warrior, Shen became Dog Champion (or 'Vica'), the greatest Dog Warrior in the land!

Also, in Shen's world, people are born with control over one of the four elements. Shen was born an air bender and has honed this skill to higher levels than his magic or his skill in combat. He is able to control all forms of air, using it as a form of telekinesis (with great concentration, this also allows him slight fire and water bending skill, by manipulating the oxygen involved in both) and, in his favourite and signature move, is able to transform his entire body in a wind form.

In combat however... While the Vica has 800 years of experience on his side, he generally relies on his weapons and his aerokinesis in order to get the job done. He can hold his own against most of the less experienced fighters, but when he's faced with someone really skillful, he has no choice but to resort to using his powers.

Since this is hand to hand only... You guys can probably figure out who I think would win ;P but I'm not allowed to say, cause Sha said so, lol

(AWESOME idea btw, Sha! And glad you decided to involve me in the first matchup!)

Ok i'm not listing all the stuff like I did before.... but from what I've read on AKIRA's profile, lol, and from what I've read from battles on BOTH sides (as well as the facts that Vica presented), I'm going to say Akira.

" Ok now for Vica... well... I hate to say it man... but you have nothing in your bio for me to look over and debate about >.< So I'm going to have to go about what you put on here (which I think you might as well put on your bio xP)

The Vica is many centuries old (600, 800, take your pick, lol) and has been fighting for the vast majority of that time. Then,1traveling back to his own world, he learned how to fight, eventually joining the elite Dog Warriors, fighters who were deemed worthy by the Dog Avatar.(in his world there are 12 spirits based on the animals of the Chinese Zodiac, each representing a specific trait) After a few years as a warrior,Shen became Dog Champion (or 'Vica'), the greatest Dog Warrior in the land!

In combat however...2While the Vica has 800 years of experience on his side, he generally relies on his weapons and his aerokinesis in order to get the job done. He can hold his own against most of the less experienced fighters, but when he's faced with someone really skillful, he has no choice but to resort to using his powers.

yes, he is the 'Dog Champion' but that doesnt really tell me what that is... I have no idea what a Dog Warrior is... what kind of fighting styles they know or whatever... lack of knowlege so I dont know how to use this for him....

So does this mean that he never really developed his hand to hand combat? Yes he has 800 years of experience, but he even said himself, he relies o his weapons and aerokinesis to 'get the job done'.

To Vica what is a 'less experinced fighter'? Is that just someone who doesnt have 800 years of experiance? or is it just someone who isnt a master at martal arts? "

I suppose I should XP

But whenever I get my Bio page up for editing, something comes up and I don't have time to do it. It's gotten to the point where I don't even try anymore.

For the Dog Warrior thing, their style of fighting is not what makes them worthy of the Dog, it is their mindset. Each of the 12 spirits has a certain trait and each of their warriors represent that. For example, the Rat Champion has no fighting experience whatsoever, but he got to his position because, being so cunning and intelligent, he truly represents the spirit of the Rat. For the Dog Warriors, it is their loyalty and compassion that defines them. (although Shen does everything he can to hide this aspect of himself from others)

Also, Shen taught himself to fight, and therefore has no specific style. He does things his own way, but again, most of his moves rely on his powers or weapons. When fighting without them, he generally relies on the fact that his opponent is weaker than him. If indeed they are weaker than him.

He trains regularly in order to maintain his skill in hand to hand, but I thought it was best to point out that he barely actually applies this skill in a fight, and hence is not at all experienced in fighting with his hands alone. He can seem like a master when practicing alone and rehearsing specific moves, but when actually faced with an opponent, he almost never uses just his hands. Even without powers, he always has at least one weapon in a fight.

By less experienced I kinda meant in general. Someone who says they have 'some fighting skill' he could defeat quite easily in hand to hand. The same for grunts and henchmen. It is when he faces someone who actually has experience in a fight that he struggles. For example, while he could probably take down a whole hoard of Ninja with his powers, without them, I doubt he'd survive such an encounter.

" Ok i'm not listing all the stuff like I did before.... but from what I've read on AKIRA's profile, lol, and from what I've read from battles on BOTH sides (as well as the facts that Vica presented), I'm going to say Akira. "

I would go with MR on this one, as it is character based rather then RPing based (not that either are bad RPers, rather excellent actually), I can imagine the fight in a comic, I'd say MRs guns give her the edge, though it'd be a pretty epic battle

Kunoichi - Training focusing on disguises, poisons and using her feminine charms to her advantage.

Telekinesis - She has the ability to move objects with her mind. Her limits have not yet been seen but the larger the item the more it takes out of her. Tlieso also uses this to augment her only slightly above average strength.

Agility - Tlieso is extremely agile from her years of training.

Shadow Control - Abilities she learned while ruling hell allow her to move through the shadows and form into objects.

Blood Magic - An rare mixture of Alchemy and Necromancy, this arcane knowledge has given her the ability to heal, kill or torment to her hearts desire.

Poisons - Unmatched knowledge in the use of Poisons dating back hundreds of years.

Weaknesses

Strength - Her strength is that of an extremely fit woman. She often uses her telekinesis to supplement this but she can be overpowered.

Cold/Ice - Tlieso does not like the cold & can only withstand as much as her clothing will allow her to.

Ok...MR doesnt really have a bio xD So its kinda hard to compair the two... so I decided to upload their cards to help me xP

Ok, compairing the two they are actually really similar power grid wise >.< Only major differance is that MR doesnt have any projection powers.

its really hard to say, because I havent seen these two out in action to their full power and neither of them really do battle rpgs.

I say if these two where to battle, it would be very close, concidering that MR has a healing factor (if I remember correctly) and would be able to quickly recover from any injuries that Lady T puts on her and MR COULD over power her with her strength. The only thing is that has me with Lady T are her ninjitsu's and telepathy >.<

Like I said before, I havent really seen these two fight in the threads... so its hard to say, but I'm going to have to give it to Lady T