“I wanted to make the song sound gay, down to the production, by paying homage to a certain clap sound in an old Madonna song,” he explains on the phone from LA, to which he’s recently relocated from Perth, Australia. “Also, in the video there are shirtless guys, but they’re not touching each other – I didn’t want anybody to be like, ‘This video makes me uncomfortable because it’s gay.’” There’s a pause. “But at the same time it’s sooooo gay.”

One of the shirtless guys not touching anyone is porn star and model Brody Blomqvist (AKA Justin Brody). Was Sivan involved in casting? “I was, but in my defence I just thought he had a really great … look.”

Wouldn't have pictured Troye and Ariana working together, but I think the difference in their voices could go really well, especially if it's more of a duet. I think they could blend well. Interested to hear it, at least.