Gmany3K 's Off Topic Thread

The infection by Marxists didn't happen overnight. There has always been a Marxist element to the democratic party but it was always kept in check by old guard democrats like Scoop Jackson and Zell miller, but somewhere along the line the old democratic leadership stopped the containment and has gone as far has turning loose that Marxist element and now the Party is run by Karl Marx. There isn't an example of a single issue you can give me where the democrats want the states to decide the issue and not the federal government. As far as the republicrats go, they DO NOT represent me. No republican will for that matter until they commit to shrinking government and staying the hell out of my life.

Frank Luntz deserves every dime he makes. He's clearly done a damn good job. Have you even read The Communist Manifesto? I mean since you're an expert on Marxists and Marxism I'd figure you've read it before. It's been my experience that people who have been using the word Marxist the past few years picked it up from folks like Glenn Beck and the Rush Limbaugh and have never actually read The Communist Manifesto for themselves and so therefor have no idea what they're actually talking about. Something tells me it's just a word you picked up along the way and you think it's a quick and easy way to describe something or somebody you don't like. But I'm probably wrong *wishes we had a dripping with sarcasm emoticon.

You claim the "republicrats" (don't use small "d's" and "r's" when refurring to the parties) don't represent you but yet you're spewing the same bullshit that has been coming out of the Republicans mouths for years. I guess you're going to be living with disappointment for years to come because as long outlawing a woman's right to choose whether or not she can get an abortion is a part of the Republican party's platform, they will not commit to staying out of our lives. As long as they propose amending the U.S. constitution to say two people of the same sex can't sign a marriage license, they won't be committing to staying out of our lives. As long as they continue to support borrowing money from other nations to pay for wars and cutting taxes that mostly benefit the super rich, they will not be committing to staying out of our lives. Again ever since Lincoln the Republicans have really never supported limited government and for the brief time that they did (the 1920s) they laid the ground work for the 1929 stock market crash and the Great Depression that followed. Hell they almost did it again in the 2000s. But to be fair they did have some help from Bill Clinton and Robert Rubin. I can tell you this though, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Hayley Barbour, Mike Hukabee, Ron Paul, and Jeb Bush...none of them support limited government either despite what they might tell you.

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Let me ask you one more thing, do any of those democrats in Washington represent you? think about it and name one. did that person write the legislation he/she proposed or did he/she outsource it to some political action committee to be written. second question, did he/she READ the legislation (stimulus, obamacare, financial reform, cap and trade just to name a few) before voting on it? if NO is the answer to either question then that person is NOT representing you. 95% of all democrats in this congress vote with Nancy Pelosi, they vote the way she tells them to. Why even bother to send a representative to Washington since that is the case? It will be easier to just send a voting machine. Wake up and smell the crap coming out of Washington, or go back to sleep.

And the Republicans in congress weren't in lockstep with Newt Gingrich and later George W. Bush and Tom Delay? I seem to recall them doing the same things you're bitching about Nancy Pelosi doing. So what??? For decades both houses of congress have been doing whatever the PACs and special interest groups with deep pockets have been paying for them to do. Both parties do it and aren't ashamed of it either. They spend more time on the phone fund raising than they do reading and writing legislation. That didn't start in 2006 and it didn't start in 1994, but it has gotten worse year after year. But holding a bunch of little rallies with tea bags hanging off your hats and holding signs with Obama looking like the Joker from The Dark Night movie isn't going to change a damn thing. Those people just look like dumbasses coming out the house looking like that. These "tea party" candidates are just going to get into office and do the same damn thing the folks in congress are doing now. Worry about how they're going to fund their re-election campaigns and what lobbying firm or corporation they want to work for after they leave congress. They are no different, they're just pandering to an angry electorate.

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By the way, Eisenhower later remarked that his appointment [Earl Warren] was "the biggest damned-fool mistake I ever made."

That doesn't change the fact that he did it and he FEDERALIZED (cue the scary music) the Arkansas national guard and sent them to Central High School to protect the Little Rock Nine. Plus he appointed John Harlan to the Supreme Court too and he also supported the court's ruling in Brown v. the Broad of Education. That's why the conservatives in the senate held up his confirmation until after the court gave it's ruling. Plus Eisenhower used the CIA to overthrow the democratically (see that's how we use the small "d") elected government in Iran just to reinstall the Shah who was more favorable to the U.S. government and it's interests (Iranian oil). Thaaaat really sounds like limited government to me. Damn I wish we had that dripping with sarcasm emoticon.

FlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.

azjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.

Let me ask you one more thing, do any of those democrats in Washington represent you? think about it and name one. did that person write the legislation he/she proposed or did he/she outsource it to some political action committee to be written. second question, did he/she READ the legislation (stimulus, obamacare, financial reform, cap and trade just to name a few) before voting on it? if NO is the answer to either question then that person is NOT representing you. 95% of all democrats in this congress vote with Nancy Pelosi, they vote the way she tells them to. Why even bother to send a representative to Washington since that is the case? It will be easier to just send a voting machine. Wake up and smell the crap coming out of Washington, or go back to sleep.

Ill debate you on this but only if it is a respectful discourse. Why wont you answer the question? Which one of those Democrats in Washington represents you? I think its a pretty simple question. If you need to know I have a background that without a doubt qualifies me to discuss international as well as domestic Marxism. Ill even go as far as to define it for the 21'st century. Marxism today is the idea that government must be the organizing principle behind every aspect of your life. Based on that, it is easy to see what is happening today has a heavy Marxist influence. There are at least 50 members of the house and senate that are members of the Democratic Socialists of America. We have a president who was raised to be the Marxist that he is by ALL of the influences in his life. Ill list them since some people never bothered to learn who this man is.

1) Barack Obama Senior was an 'African colonial' (learn what that is here http://www.americant...n_colonial.html ) and student of communism who supported the communist effort in Kenya. Obama's book Dreams of my father puts down on paper his fathers goals and makes them his own.
2) Stanley Anne Dunham (his mother) was a student of Critical Theory which focuses on the deconstruction of western society for the transformation to communism
3) Frank Marshall Davis was a communist activist and an escapee of the House committee on unamerican activities who wound up in Hawaii where he mentored Obama during his adolescent and teen years. he was also an admitted pedophile who said he liked 'young brown boys' and Obama writes in his book that 'frank gave him whiskey' as well as a poem where 'Pop' 'Points out the same amber Stain on his shorts that I've got on mine' God only knows what went on between those two.
4) After Obama stepped foot on US Mainland Soil for the very first time in his life at the age of 18, he transferred to Colombia University and writes in his book that he sought out the Marxist professors there
5) After graduating where did he gravitate to? Chicago Politics, Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers. He met Michelle through Ayers wife Bernadine Dorn. Those people's communist ties are well documented
6) Obama then joined the New Party around 1993. The New Party's purpose was to push the democratic party more towards a Marxist direction
7) Obama then became the community organizer and lawyer for ACORN, that organization was founded by two communists and its Marxist activities are well documented.
8) Since becoming president he has surrounded himself with Marxists including his latest "spiritual adviser" Reverend Jim Wallis. Wallis is an interesting read, did you know he went as far as to condemn the north Vietnamese boat people in the late 70's calling them puppets of the bourgeois? The list is long of "advisers" to this president who consider themselves communist, socialist, or Marxist.
9) Obama has campaigned for the communist party representative in Kenya in their presidential elections
10) Obama has openly talked of redistributive justice, environmental justice, social justice. these are all code words for Marxism

These are the facts and it is a brief description of who this man is. He is the very MARXIST that he was raised to be. He is a man who could care less about what America is and has been, he cares more about what he and every other Marxist wishes it to be. All this typing may be a waste of time but what the hell... Because too many people looked the other way (such as who this is addressed to) it is how he became president. We now have a major problem in this country, and no good can come from these people. What made America great, is the idea that liberty and property in the hands of the individual and NOT the collective is the key to success. Free people exorcising their god given talents on the land made this country great and NOT some government program. This idea of America is what the founding fathers believed, its what all good patriotic Americans believe, and it flies in the face of who Obama was raised to be, and the rest of those 95% democrats for that matter. You should answer the simple question I posted to you. If you refuse to answer I wont discuss any of this with you again.

Ill debate you on this but only if it is a respectful discourse. Why wont you answer the question? Which one of those Democrats in Washington represents you? I think its a pretty simple question. If you need to know I have a background that without a doubt qualifies me to discuss international as well as domestic Marxism. Ill even go as far as to defign it for the 21'st century. Marxism today is the idea that government must be the organizing principle of every aspect of your life. Based on that, it is easy to see what is happening today has a heavy marxist influence. There are at least 50 members of the house and senate that are members of the Democratic Socialists of America. We have a president who was raised to be the Marxist that he is by ALL of the influences in his life. Ill list them since some people never bothered to learn who this man is.

1) Barack Obama Senior was an 'African colonial' (learn what that is) and student of communism who supported the communist effort in Kenya
2) Stanley Anne Dunham (his mother) was a student of Critical Theory which focuses on the deconstruction of western society for the transformation to communism
3) Frank Marshall Davis was an escapee of the House committee on unamerican activities and wound up in Hawaii where he mentored Obama during his adolescent and teen years. he was also an admitted pedophile who said he liked 'young brown boys' and obama writes in his book that 'frank gave him whiskey' as well as a poem where 'Pop' 'Points out the same amber Stain on his shorts that I've got on mine' God only knows what went on between those two.
4) After Obama stepped foot on US Mainland Soil for the very first time in his life at the age of 18, he transferred to Colombia University and writes in his book that he sought out the Marxist professors there
5) After graduating where did he gravitate to? Chicago Politics, Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers. He met Michelle through Ayers wife Bernadine Dorn. Those people's communist ties are well documented
6) Obama then joined the New Party around 1993. The New Party's purpose was to push the democratic party more towards a Marxist direction
7) Obama then became the community organizer and lawyer for ACORN, that organization was founded by two communists and its Marxist activities are well documented.
8) Since becoming president he has surrounded himself with Marxists including his latest "spirtual advisor" Revernd Jim Wallis. Wallis is an interesting read, did you know he went as far as to condemn the north Vietnamese boat people in the late 70's calling them puppets of the bourgeois? The list is long of "advisors" to this president who consider themselves communist, socialist, or Marxist.
9) Obama has campaigned for the communist party representative in Kenya in their presidential elections
10) Obama has openly talked of redistributive justice, environmental justice, social justice. these are all code words for Marxism

These are the facts and it is a brief description of who this man is. He is the very MARXIST that he was raised to be. All this typing may be a waste of time but what the hell... Because too many people looked the other way (such as who this is addressed to) it is how he became president. We now have a major problem in this country, and no good can come from these people. You should answer the simple question I posted to you. If you refuse to answer I wont discuss any of this with you again.

And his middle name is Hussein which is also the last name of the former dictator of Iraq. Don't forget about that connection.

And he uh...he uh...is a Muslim and he wants to build a mosque near ground zero so his brother Osama bin Laden and al-Queda can worship there and plot their next terrorist attack. He also um...he let's see...uh. Oh yeah he uses illegal Mexican immigrants to smuggle crack into the U.S. Then he sells it to and smokes it with young muscular black men who get high off of it, and they run into the suburbs and rape white women and impregnate them and leave it to their white husbands to raise these little mixed children and that keeps these guys from being able to buy golf clubs and Canadian beer and whatever else it is old white guys like. Yeah that's good. Oh yeah and he's gay. Yeah Obama is gay and he....he wants to marry you...and have sex with you...in your butthole.

Boy I can't wait until the hockey mom comes to save the day in 2012. The mama grizzly will save us from that evil Muslim, black, terrorist, black, Marxist, black, communist, black, Kenyan, black, homosexual, black, elitist, black, poopy head currently working in the Oval Office. You betcha ;).

With the misspellings and conspiracy theories I'm starting to think gmany has made another account.

FlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.

azjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.

Boy I can't wait until the Hockey mom comes to save the day in 2012. The Mama grizzly will save us from that evil Muslim, black, terrorist, black, Marxist, black, communist, black, Kenyan, black, homosexual, black, elitist, black, poopy head currently working in the Oval Office. You betcha ;).

Only an AMERICAN can help this country, not some angry black nationalist Chicago thug politician empty shirted Marxist parrot shill for George Soros

Well I'm glad we elected you and you alone to decide who is and is not an American.

FlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.

azjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.

Come on you know that white half doesn't count. Once his mother laid down and had sex with that African man she was kicked out the club.

I feel like Uncle Ruckus tonight.

FlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.

azjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.

That doesn't change the fact that he did it and he FEDERALIZED (cue the scary music) the Arkansas national guard and sent them to Central High School to protect the Little Rock Nine. Plus he appointed John Harlan to the Supreme Court too and he also supported the court's ruling in Brown v. the Broad of Education. That's why the conservatives in the senate held up his confirmation until after the court gave it's ruling. Plus Eisenhower used the CIA to overthrow the democratically (see that's how we use the small "d") elected government in Iran just to reinstall the Shah who was more favorable to the U.S. government and it's interests (Iranian oil). Thaaaat really sounds like limited government to me. Damn I wish we had that dripping with sarcasm emoticon.

Are you purposely distorting this part of American history or are you just parroting what you read on some left wing blog?

The troops were sent in because democratic governor orval faubus ordered the arkansas national guard to prevent desegregation at the school, so Eisenhower federalized the national guard so they couldn't take orders from the their Dixiecrat governor. Your party was the political wing of the KKK in those days.

As far as Iran goes if you have a problem with that your either a Soviet sympathizer or just Naive. Mossadeq had every intention of turning Iran into a client state of the Soviet Union. Compound that with Khomenei and the rest of the Lunatic Muslims who were a threat even back in 1953, the only option is to put into power someone who is going to resist Communist expansion. I bet you think we should have invaded Japan along with the Soviets resulting in North Japan (communist) and South Japan (Democratic and Free) rather than dropping the A-Bombs. Yes, that was going to happen, why else do you think we dropped the bombs within 3 months of victory in Europe?

Come on you know that white half doesn't count. Once his mother laid down and had sex with that African man she was kicked out the club.

I feel like Uncle Ruckus tonight.

If you knew anything about her you would understand that believing in critical theory as she did, she viewed being impregnated by an "African Colonial" Communist the perfect way to do her part in deconstructing western non Marxist society

If you knew anything about her you would understand that believing in critical theory as she did, she viewed being impregnated by an "African Colonial" Communist the perfect way to do her part in deconstructing western non Marxist society

(cue the Uncle Ruckus music)

Nope she was kicked out the club when she slept with that black man. Just like Heidi Klum. Didn't no white man want her after she laid down with that black man. That ruined her and loosened her up too much. No regular white man was going to be able to fit in there anymore, not after that African man went up in there and destroyed her shit. That's why they exiled her ass and her chocolatey baby to Indonesia.

Luigidel, on 15 August 2010 - 04:39 AM, said:

An American believes what the founding fathers believed. No you cant call yourself a Marxist and an American at the same time. they are two mutually exclusive ideas and they are 100% INCOMPATIBLE

So Americans believe in only letting white land owning men vote and not women. And owning slaves and killing Indians (Native Americans) and taking their land is okay.

FlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.

azjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.

Are you purposely distorting this part of American history or are you just parroting what you read on some left wing blog?

The troops were sent in because democratic governor orval faubus ordered the arkansas national guard to prevent desegregation at the school, so Eisenhower federalized the national guard so they couldn't take orders from the their Dixiecrat governor. Your party was the political wing of the KKK in those days.

USE CAPITAL LETTERS WHEN USING PEOPLE NAMES AND THE POLITICAL PARTY'S NAMES.

You have a lot of nerve accusing somebody of "parroting" something when all this shit you've been spewing sounds like something you've copy and pasted from some far right-wing website. You totally missed the point I was making. It doesn't surprise me that it went over your head so I'll explain it to you so that it won't hurt your simple brain. Read this slowly and carefully. The STATE government (Faubus) was not following the FEDERAL law by trying to block the Little Rock Nine's entrance into the high school. Then Eisenhower used his FEDERAL powers by issuing an executive order that would FEDERALIZE the STATE national guard. Thus taking the power of the STATE'S national guard away from the head of the the STATE government (Faubus) and putting it in the hands of the FEDERAL government (Eisenhower). Ike did not let the STATE of Arkansas handle their own affairs because he forcibly enforced the United States Supreme Court's ruling upon Central High School. The STATE believed they had the right to decide whether or not to desegregate their public schools and Eisenhower disagreed. Now years later most people believe that the FEDERAL government was right by forcing desegregation in the public schools and that it was wrong of the STATE government to segregate them in the first place. A STATE government is not always right in their decisions and the FEDERAL government is not always wrong. Sometimes the FEDERAL government has to do what is right by it's citizens because the STATE government won't do what is right. And if the STATE always knows what is right and you're such a supporter of state's rights, why do you call yourself an American and not just a Floridian? Why not just support your state's succession from the union since the state is always right? By the way I'm guessing you're telling all your friends and family who are over 65 to burn their Social Security checks and Medicare cards? You know since the federal government needs to stay out of our lives, they don't need to be giving your elderly family members money and health care either. Right?

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As far as Iran goes if you have a problem with that your either a Soviet sympathizer or just Naive. Mossadeq had every intention of turning Iran into a client state of the Soviet Union. Compound that with Khomenei and the rest of the Lunatic Muslims who were a threat even back in 1953, the only option is to put into power someone who is going to resist Communist expansion. I bet you think we should have invaded Japan along with the Soviets resulting in North Japan (communist) and South Japan (Democratic and Free) rather than dropping the A-Bombs. Yes, that was going to happen, why else do you think we dropped the bombs within 3 months of victory in Europe?

So the United States government knew what was better for Iran than Iranian people themselves. LOL! Because it's not like THEY ELECTED that government the CIA overthrew in a democratic election. No it's better that they have the monarch Shah that THEY overthrew decades earlier reinstated as their dictator. America and Britain knew what was best for Iran (and it's oil) not the Iranians themselves. I mean it was better that Iran have a Nazi sympathizer like Zahedi who tried to install a pro-Nazi government in Iran during World War II as it's Prime Minister, rather than an ALLEGED Soviet sympathizer like Mosaddegh. And those "lunatic Muslims" you talk about were no fan of Mosaddegh and his secular reforms. That's one of the reasons Kashani turned against him and sided with the British who had once forced him into exile. If Mossaddegh would have just let Britain's Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (which would later become BP) continue to control Iran's oil, there would have never even been a coup. But yeah a dictatorship under the Shah that was propped up with military support from the U.S. would have been much better than the democratically elected government that controlled it's own oil that they already had.

FlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.

azjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.

You guys can argue till the cows come home and very intelligent you both are when it comes to human government which is lead by Lucifer and he will use any and all forms of government to to attain his goal .

21ST CENTURY NEW YORK STATE OF MIND ."REST IN PEACE NIGHT OWL TOM"Use Caution when reading my comments>.

One day I was visiting with Barack, Michelle, Sasha, and Melia. I said to Melia, "what would you like to be when you grow up?" and she replied, "Id like to be president one day." I asked her why and she replied, "that way I can help to feed the poor." Both her parents smiled with glee at the reponse. I told Melia that she didnt have to wait to be president to do that. I told Melia that she can come over to my house and Id pay her fifty dollars to mow and clean my yard and pull the weeds. I told melia that when she was finished, I would then drive her to the grocery store to buy the food with the money she made, and she could give the food to the first homeless person she sees. Melia thought about it for a minute and then replied, "Why dont you just have the homeless person do all the work at your yard instead, wouldnt that be easier?" I said to melia, welcome to the republican party. I have not been invited back to their home since.

You guys can argue till the cows come home and very intelligent you both are when it comes to human government which is lead by Lucifer and he will use any and all forms of government to to attain his goal .

Please, i forced him to think about his blind obedience to the democratic party and he reacted just as a lifetime shill for that party always does. He avoided at all costs answering my two part question, by misdirecting and changing the subject. Whenever a liberal loses they will ALWAYS resort to their fallback position by calling you a racist, sexist, or bigot. They never have the answers or even a coherent position because of for 150 years the democrats have been engaging in group politics. There was a time when they could do that and govern at the same time enough to efficiently help run the country. Today they only pander to the group and abandoned all common sense which is why their answer to every problem these days is to just throw more money at it. I clearly pointed out that these "Democrats" are no longer representing us, we know that because they refuse to write and read the bills before voting on them. go back and read his responses.

USE CAPITAL LETTERS WHEN USING PEOPLE NAMES AND THE POLITICAL PARTY'S NAMES.

So the United States government knew what was better for Iran than Iranian people themselves. LOL! Because it's not like THEY ELECTED that government the CIA overthrew in a democratic election. No it's better that they have the monarch Shah that THEY overthrew decades earlier reinstated as their dictator. America and Britain knew what was best for Iran (and it's oil) not the Iranians themselves. I mean it was better that Iran have a Nazi sympathizer like Zahedi who tried to install a pro-Nazi government in Iran during World War II as it's Prime Minister, rather than an ALLEGED Soviet sympathizer like Mosaddegh. And those "lunatic Muslims" you talk about were no fan of Mosaddegh and his secular reforms. That's one of the reasons Kashani turned against him and sided with the British who had once forced him into exile. If Mossaddegh would have just let Britain's Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (which would later become BP) continue to control Iran's oil, there would have never even been a coup. But yeah a dictatorship under the Shah that was propped up with military support from the U.S. would have been much better than the democratically elected government that controlled it's own oil that they already had.

You got it your way in 1979, or did you forget. Former attorney general ramzee clark (admitted marxist) advocated for Khomeini to the Carter administration to allow the fundamentalists to take over in Iran. The liberal rags such as mother jones magazine, wrote stories saying that khomeni would foster a new era of democracy in Iran. and elites from academia like Yale petitioned the carter white house to abandon our ally and allow the fundamentalist to take over in Iran. The result?

1) US embassy in Beirut blown up in 1982 by Hezbollah (yes they are funded and backed by Iran)
2) 241 US marines killed in Beirut 1983 by Hezbollah bomb
3) multiple hijackings
4) hostage crisis
5) stolen election in 2009
6) worst of all a Nuclear Iran

the list is endless

Wow Liberal foreign Policy is really great isn't it? The liberals decison to allow the iranian revolution obviously worked out. as you said "So the United States government knew what was better for Iran than Iranian people themselves. LOL!" Are you still laughing??????

I do read everything and he is young and still intrenched in his paradigm of life but as soon as he figures things out he may start looking at the world differently.that is what this thread is all about.
This countries state of affairs is exactly where the rulers want it and we are enslaved to it.check out the link and see where all the money is hidden.

I do read everything and he is young and still intrenched in his paradigm of life but as soon as he figures things out he may start looking at the world differently.that is what this thread is all about.
This countries state of affairs is exactly where the rulers want it and we are enslaved to it.check out the link and see where all the money is hidden.

whats the old saying? we are all liberals until we have to go out into the world and work for a living? I was never a liberal but when I was young I was pro choice until I realized that I wasn't considering the interest of all parties involved. Pro choicer's consider only the interests of 2 of the 3 parties. They weigh in the interest of the mother and father but NEVER the unborn. When I realized that the unborn had just as much rights as any then I changed my position and became pro life.