Trying to stay on top of this today....hoping for some good news. Personally, I think today we might know whether there will be a deal in the next week or so, or the two sides go away for a long time and the season is close to lost.

In a conference room where the NHLPA are meeting, a man is at the drawing board writing equations trying to explain the financial implications of the NHL's proposal.One of the players stands up "So if we meet projections for league growth we will still be losing a substantial amount on contracts already signed. But what if the fans really are pissed off for being locked out 3 consecutive times? What if they don't come back this time? What if..."He is interrupted by a creepy looking clown barging into the room with makeup that appears to be rain smeared although it's not raining.Everyone turns around to see what the commotion is all about. The room is silent now all eyes on the clown"It's simple" he says"We kill the Bettman"

To me, that sounds like the players are coming to the table with equally reasonable proposals. And that's a good sign, if you ask me...

I had heard that they discussed the 4 different proposals on the NHLPA conference call today and the merits of each....with the view to decide which to present or to present all this afternoon to the NHL.

I had heard that they discussed the 4 different proposals on the NHLPA conference call today and the merits of each....with the view to decide which to present or to present all this afternoon to the NHL.

That's a certain possibility, bringing 4 and deciding which one to present. If all 4 have 50/50 split, then perhaps we'll have a season after all.

Of course, it could be that having a 50/50 split means the 7th year of a 7 year deal is 50/50, with the first 6 years being more player tilted, so... Still too early to get too excited.

This is a joke right? The owners make some compromises on their proposal and the players won't even approach the 50/50 number on 3 separate proposals?

According to Bettman. I would be curious to know the details of the three proposals, perhaps the three outline three different ways in which the PA thinks are acceptable to get down to an equitable share?

Just look at how he hangs his sunglasses from his banana hammock in that last pic. This guyf****** rules. --kipwinger

This is a joke right? The owners make some compromises on their proposal and the players won't even approach the 50/50 number on 3 separate proposals?

Don't kid yourself, the NHLs offer the other day didn't come close to 50/50 either, nor did it include "no salary rollbacks" like they said, they just tried to spin it like it did with the help of Luntz.

This is just as I predicted. Neither side is budging, they are both just turning up the spin.

This is a joke right? The owners make some compromises on their proposal and the players won't even approach the 50/50 number on 3 separate proposals?

According to Bettman. I would be curious to know the details of the three proposals, perhaps the three outline three different ways in which the PA thinks are acceptable to get down to an equitable share?

This, a hundred times over. The actual details of the 3 proposals haven't even been leaked, so it's far too early to say that the players didn't actually approach the 50/50 split.

Everything said by BOTH Bettman/League and Fehr/PA needs to be taken with a grain of salt, because they're going to try and spin the story to be the other side's fault.