TJH wrote:If the roles were reversed and the 9ers were the ones getting all the PED suspensions, this board would be FULL of posts calling them cheaters and we would be all over it. You are lying to yourself if you think otherwise.

So?

So why be indignant about it when our dumbass players put us in this position.

hedgehawk wrote:Didn't Larry Grant of the 49ers get suspended for ped use? I don't think Harbaugh is wrong in what he's saying, but he is also stupid to think his players aren't doing something as well. All the NFL is.

Yes he is, but the Bay area paper quickly points out that Grant is no longer with the team, thus they get to overlook that one mis-step.

I think the Bay Area papers were making more of a point that one of two things likely happened:1. Larry Grant took PEDs after being told he was cut and took them in preparation to compete for other teams.

Or

2. Larry Grant was caught taking PEDs while still on the team and in reaction the 49ers org showed they do not support that by cutting him for his use.

Either way what's it matter? Just like we all say here, he just accidentally took adderall once at a party right?

I don't care what this forum would do if the situation were reversed, Harbaugh isn't a forum poster. I think if Carroll were asked, he'd more than likely disregard the question and state that he doesn't want to delve into another organization's business.

pinksheets wrote:I don't care what this forum would do if the situation were reversed, Harbaugh isn't a forum poster. I think if Carroll were asked, he'd more than likely disregard the question and state that he doesn't want to delve into another organization's business.

Exactly, Harbaugh could've easily said "it's not my place to talk about it" but dude is a clown and opened his mouth, once you say something you can never take it back. He should've just stuck with whining about how are corners are being mean to his receivers.

Pete mentioned that he wouldn't comment on how another team does its business but this TJack stir reminded me that he did claim that the Vikings "jacked him around" when talking about bringing in Tarvaris before. Of course I hate the Vikings behind the Hutch thing so I didn't care when he blasted them.

So I would think it is fair game for Jim H to use the current Seahawks predicament as a coaching tool for his own players.

Cannot have it both ways. Don't say anything about how another team handles its business or accept it when others use your faults as fodder for stirring the pot.

Tical21 wrote:It will happen to the 49ers, Harbaugh won't stand for it, that player will be beyond punished, and the problem will be solved. He is a complete douchebag, but that sumbitch can coach his ass off and knows how to run a clean program.

I don't believe that for a second, so you are saying the minute one of he Smith brothers or one of their stud linebackers get busted he is going to cut their ass? I don't think so. No way no how, the man (harblah) is a hypocrite!

I never said cut, although he just might. He would, however, punish the Smiths or Willis as much if not more than any other coach out there. No matter how talented you are, you aren't immune to his doghouse, ask Dick Sherman.

Tical21 wrote:It will happen to the 49ers, Harbaugh won't stand for it, that player will be beyond punished, and the problem will be solved. He is a complete douchebag, but that sumbitch can coach his ass off and knows how to run a clean program.

CBA doesn't really allow for that I don't think. NFL gives the punishment according to the rules and thats all that happens. Now you could quietly stuff them in a corner, keep them second string etc, but the NFLPA wouldn't like it if they got word of why.

TJH wrote:If the roles were reversed and the 9ers were the ones getting all the PED suspensions, this board would be FULL of posts calling them cheaters and we would be all over it. You are lying to yourself if you think otherwise.

Tical21 wrote:It will happen to the 49ers, Harbaugh won't stand for it, that player will be beyond punished, and the problem will be solved. He is a complete douchebag, but that sumbitch can coach his ass off and knows how to run a clean program.

I don't believe that for a second, so you are saying the minute one of he Smith brothers or one of their stud linebackers get busted he is going to cut their ass? I don't think so. No way no how, the man (harblah) is a hypocrite!

I never said cut, although he just might. He would, however, punish the Smiths or Willis as much if not more than any other coach out there. No matter how talented you are, you aren't immune to his doghouse, ask Dick Sherman.

Still not buying it. Richard Sherman wasn't the superstar in college that he is now! This worst Harbaugh would do to them is give them an angry scowl then throw down his clipboard!

The ticker on nfl network had Harbaugh stating that the ped thing is a trend. I don't see 6 players and mostly first year guys a trend. He needs to shut his pie hole and pay attention to his own team. It's like a person butting into how someone else cleans their house, wrong. I would see it as a problem IF the way the guys played was dramatically different after suspension is over, or if they are caught more than once.

Carroll responds...Carroll said: "We've kind of dealt with this to set into motion a really clear mindset to take care of business and treat this situation that is around the league very seriously. I don't know about commenting about anybody else's team, but as far as we're concerned we feel like we've addressed it directly."

Largent80 wrote:Sounds like someone is already making excuses for 2 losses.

That is my take on the deal. He knows he is screwed without Kaeperfreak's favorite receiver and needs the cheating mantra to carry him into the game.

Funny..... He quoted BS and said "if you are cheating you have already lost." Yet the last time the Niners were here, I don't remember seeing him pull Ahmad Brooks aside after jumping the line before the ball was snapped no less than five times (called once) At the game I saw it at least that many times, but all I saw Harbaugh doing was crying about the Hawks.

He is a tool and he forgot he lives in a glass house.

The only concern I have and I mean only is that Bevell will get cute and pass even though Lynch is gaining yardage. 1/30/2015 - loaf

Hey guys, first post ever for me here. Seahawks fan in Indiana. Been following you guys on here for years and I hope I can truly contribute something here. Now I am sure this has been posted somewhere on here, I tried to look for it to make sure I was not being redundant. I couldn't find so here it is. The boys over at KJR played this out today which really in my opinion is ultimate gold when it comes to hating Jimmy H.

hedgehawk wrote:Carroll responds...Carroll said: "We've kind of dealt with this to set into motion a really clear mindset to take care of business and treat this situation that is around the league very seriously. I don't know about commenting about anybody else's team, but as far as we're concerned we feel like we've addressed it directly."

Well it is obvious to all, that Pete Carroll is an understanding grownup, and NOT a sniveling blowhard douchebag like Jimmy Harharbaugh.

TJH wrote:If the roles were reversed and the 9ers were the ones getting all the PED suspensions, this board would be FULL of posts calling them cheaters and we would be all over it. You are lying to yourself if you think otherwise.

Ya see, now that's where you're wrong, I don't need to lie to myself, because I just don't give a shit, after all, it's ONLY Jim Harblaugh and the 49rs that we're talking about

...but I don't think it was meant as a shot at the Seahawks. The Seahawks are the ones who have been in the news lately about it, but I think the point he was making was about people testing positive, saying it was Adderall, but in reality it could be anything because the NFL doesn't reveal the substance.

I know this is a Seahawk forum and you're going to see Harbaugh as the Anti-Christ no matter what he does...but to me this is alot of BS about essentially nothing.

...but I don't think it was meant as a shot at the Seahawks. The Seahawks are the ones who have been in the news lately about it, but I think the point he was making was about people testing positive, saying it was Adderall, but in reality it could be anything because the NFL doesn't reveal the substance.

I know this is a Seahawk forum and you're going to see Harbaugh as the Anti-Christ no matter what he does...but to me this is alot of BS about essentially nothing.

Harbaugh is very calculated in what he says and doesn't say, and everyone knows he loves to get under people's skin... media and opposing coaches alike. It was most definitely a shot across the bow.

"You can hurry up all you want. But if you can't get yards and can't complete passes, then it's just quick three-and-outs." -- Richard Sherman

He wasn't even asked a question about the specific PEDs but he went off and said this anyway, "You don't know what it is. Even when people say what it is, you don't know that that's what it is. I've heard this thrown out or that, but that's usually the agents or the players themselves saying it's, for example, Adderall. But the NFL doesn't release what it actually is, so you have no idea."

He wanted to stir the pot. I'm not saying he is wrong, but it was most definitely a shot at Seattle.

GOOD! As if we needed any more reason to be extra loud week 2 at Clink.

indyhawk1984 wrote:Hey guys, first post ever for me here. Seahawks fan in Indiana. Been following you guys on here for years and I hope I can truly contribute something here. Now I am sure this has been posted somewhere on here, I tried to look for it to make sure I was not being redundant. I couldn't find so here it is. The boys over at KJR played this out today which really in my opinion is ultimate gold when it comes to hating Jimmy H.

The fact he insinuated that the guys caught were taking something else possibly and that the NFL doesn't release the substance and that if they cheated then how are going to beleive that they took what came out.

So liars , losers and cheats basically.

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Harbaugh is awesome, he has been reading the SF message boards and is convinced that the Seahawks are an institution of cheating and that PC is the Sith-Lord of cheaters.

He realized that SF fans know far more than the NFL does, especially when it comes to the Seahawks. Niner fans always have all the inside info on Seattle. He has his post game presser all worked out in June. Preplanned responses to the question "Jim, do you think PED use cost you this devastating loss"?

The only concern I have and I mean only is that Bevell will get cute and pass even though Lynch is gaining yardage. 1/30/2015 - loaf

He wasn't even asked a question about the specific PEDs but he went off and said this anyway, "You don't know what it is. Even when people say what it is, you don't know that that's what it is. I've heard this thrown out or that, but that's usually the agents or the players themselves saying it's, for example, Adderall. But the NFL doesn't release what it actually is, so you have no idea."

He wanted to stir the pot. I'm not saying he is wrong, but it was most definitely a shot at Seattle.

GOOD! As if we needed any more reason to be extra loud week 2 at Clink.

Pete might just LET the Hawks put a 50 spot on em this time instead of putting on the brakes!

The Outfield wrote:It's in Harbaugh's best interest to try to continue to make this a big distraction for the Seahawks. I wish this thread was created in the Smack Shack so that I could unfilter this post.

Except for the whole fueling of the already High-Impact defense and the failure to distract the most focused leader on offense the Hawks have ever employed. SMART move Jimmy Love.

The only concern I have and I mean only is that Bevell will get cute and pass even though Lynch is gaining yardage. 1/30/2015 - loaf

The Outfield wrote:It's in Harbaugh's best interest to try to continue to make this a big distraction for the Seahawks. I wish this thread was created in the Smack Shack so that I could unfilter this post.

Except for the whole fueling of the already High-Impact defense and the failure to distract the most focused leader on offense the Hawks have ever employed. SMART move Jimmy Love.

From all OTA and minicamp accounts, Sherman and Baldwin have already gotten considerably better in the offseason. Add on top of that the 200% they're going to give against that scumbag old coach of theirs... I almost feel bad for SF. Seems like every time those two have played against SF they've had stellar outings.

"You can hurry up all you want. But if you can't get yards and can't complete passes, then it's just quick three-and-outs." -- Richard Sherman

Just for laughs, I read the Ninersnation.com game threads the other day from the beatdown. The Niner fans sound just like Harbs, constantly bitching about Okung holding, our corners holding, Pete swaggering...

Listening to Harbs, he sounds mostly pissed that Sherm got to play against the Niners. Still bitter. Let it go Jim. Let it go.