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Fri, 06 Mar 2015 13:55:19 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2By: Craighttp://flipflopflyin.com/g/2005/08/telly-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6272
CraigSat, 06 Aug 2005 22:53:35 +0000http://flipflopflyin.com/g/2005/08/telly-2/#comment-6272I'm not denying we need an army, but I just think that if someone wants to be a solider, fine. Otherwise, leave people alone. Their advertising is pretty fucking cynical, and there's no doubt that they just need bodies to fill out the ranks so more and more folks can go off and get dead just cos some cunt in the Whitehouse says so.I’m not denying we need an army, but I just think that if someone wants to be a solider, fine. Otherwise, leave people alone. Their advertising is pretty fucking cynical, and there’s no doubt that they just need bodies to fill out the ranks so more and more folks can go off and get dead just cos some cunt in the Whitehouse says so.
]]>By: pauldwaitehttp://flipflopflyin.com/g/2005/08/telly-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6273
pauldwaiteSat, 06 Aug 2005 13:45:43 +0000http://flipflopflyin.com/g/2005/08/telly-2/#comment-6273You see, I think I'm kinda a pacifist. Pretty much everything goes better when we smile and behave nicely. It's the route to whatever you want. HOWEVER, I can't rely deny that there are occasions when well-targeted violence is necessary, i.e. to protect people from violence and harm. Ideally, you'd see the stuff coming and nip it in the bud, but that ain't always possible, and I think it's better to use new violence to prevent the original violence than to let the original violence happen, and have people get hurt/killed.<br /><br />I think this scales to international affairs. Ideally, you use diplomacy, and economics, and subtlle political destabilisation and stuff. But then sometimes you drop the ball, you miss things, and you've got Hitler marching on Europe and it's time to saddle up and, unfortunately, kick a whole bunch of ass. Or you've got somewhere like Sudan or the Balkans, they've gone to hell in a handbasket, you should have noticed it before but you didn't, so you very badly need soldiers to go in there, kill some mass murderers, and generally take control.<br /><br />So, from all that, I've decided that modern nations need armies.<br /><br />And if we need armies, we gotta recruit soldiers. I sure as damn hell don't want to do it, but I really, really want some other guys to do it. I feel a bit better when I think that the army instills solid discipline, and makes you a pretty capable individual (physical fitness, engineering, handling conflicts, whatever). But, ultimately, however much I disagree with what the government of the day happens to be doing with the army, I really, really want it to be there.You see, I think I’m kinda a pacifist. Pretty much everything goes better when we smile and behave nicely. It’s the route to whatever you want. HOWEVER, I can’t rely deny that there are occasions when well-targeted violence is necessary, i.e. to protect people from violence and harm. Ideally, you’d see the stuff coming and nip it in the bud, but that ain’t always possible, and I think it’s better to use new violence to prevent the original violence than to let the original violence happen, and have people get hurt/killed.

I think this scales to international affairs. Ideally, you use diplomacy, and economics, and subtlle political destabilisation and stuff. But then sometimes you drop the ball, you miss things, and you’ve got Hitler marching on Europe and it’s time to saddle up and, unfortunately, kick a whole bunch of ass. Or you’ve got somewhere like Sudan or the Balkans, they’ve gone to hell in a handbasket, you should have noticed it before but you didn’t, so you very badly need soldiers to go in there, kill some mass murderers, and generally take control.

So, from all that, I’ve decided that modern nations need armies.

And if we need armies, we gotta recruit soldiers. I sure as damn hell don’t want to do it, but I really, really want some other guys to do it. I feel a bit better when I think that the army instills solid discipline, and makes you a pretty capable individual (physical fitness, engineering, handling conflicts, whatever). But, ultimately, however much I disagree with what the government of the day happens to be doing with the army, I really, really want it to be there.

]]>By: Alexandra Elisabethhttp://flipflopflyin.com/g/2005/08/telly-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6274
Alexandra ElisabethFri, 05 Aug 2005 20:04:15 +0000http://flipflopflyin.com/g/2005/08/telly-2/#comment-6274That is way fucked up. It is as fucked up as Bill O'Reilly himself.That is way fucked up. It is as fucked up as Bill O’Reilly himself.
]]>By: Torihttp://flipflopflyin.com/g/2005/08/telly-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6275
ToriFri, 05 Aug 2005 20:02:25 +0000http://flipflopflyin.com/g/2005/08/telly-2/#comment-6275Really? That is weird. But also unsurprising. But maybe they're hoping to catch people who are interested in violent stuff but then get them to sign up to dish out some violence on behalf of the country??Really? That is weird. But also unsurprising. But maybe they’re hoping to catch people who are interested in violent stuff but then get them to sign up to dish out some violence on behalf of the country??
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