Good idea. That would be a nice little added "punch" to the product, making that 20" at $2199 a bit more tempting.

Those of you in dorms and those of us in studio apartments would dig it quite a bit.

that, and a nice optical audio out.... and i could hook up a nice 5.1 speak system up, have a sweet DVD system, tv, jukebox, gaming machine and computer all-in-one

which is exactly what the point of the iMac is suppose to be. Apple is so close to meeting exactly what I want. I need 3 more things..... 128MB graphics card, optical audio out, and a TV-Tuner/analog input.

The first two are so simple to add to the iMac....the third just..... I WANT

Good idea. That would be a nice little added "punch" to the product, making that 20" at $2199 a bit more tempting.

Those of you in dorms and those of us in studio apartments would dig it quite a bit.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA BUT... technically it is difficult as you use NTSC, we (British) are moving away from analogue to digital, and the French use Secam. You would need some sort of universal behemoth to cope with he differing standards. I think that Apple will just leave it to Formac, Dazzle etc.

personnally i think having a tuner on the iMac is a good idea...but you shouldn't discount idebaser...different strokes for different folks...in truth, in a dorm room it would make more sense to spend a grand plus on an iBook and 500 or so on a nice combo dvd/vcr/tv set than 2 grand on an iMac...but choice is always good...some would love just an iMac that was also a tv (a true AIO)...some would love a G4 portable that goes to class with them and a TV at home...both are cool and a hell of a lot more than i had at college...the iPod has shown that sometimes it is best to have something do one thing well instead of trying to make something that does "everything"...if i was still in college (and not an old fart slowly looking more like christopher walken everyday) i would get the iBook 933 and this:

less than 2 grand for it all....though a 20" lcd iMac would be the shizzel and would probably help those college mac geek tap alittle more ass than they usually do...hell, who i'm i kidding, mac geeks get no play.....

You have to be kidding me. There is no way you read this entire thread, thought about it, and then posted that.

No friggin' way.

At least I hope.

you're right, i only read the first 2 posts, and not the applenut's 2nd...

(i was looking at bestbuy.com tv prices)

but my point is that in a dorm, you're usually watching tv while doing homework and you have a friends or roommates over doing completely different work that wanna watch tv, too...plus, you have IM's from friends and family going on constantly...tv on your screen doesn't seem suited to dorm life at all...unless you have no homework...

considering that the iMac 17" academic price is $300 less than 20"(w/ same features), and a tv bigger than 20" can be found at bestbuy for under $300 - a 20" iMac w/ a tuner (if it could be made for all countries) wouldn't really be worth it...

He thinks it's a place for you to turn your brain off, which is different. He does it himself according to the last analyst call.

He just doesn't see any convergence there. The standards issue is a big one, too. You can basically get there with a third-party product, which isn't bad. I do see where applenut is coming from, but I'm not sure if Apple can do it on their scale, especially with the standards changing.

Now, if there was any indication that the broadcasters and producers were happy with people not only timeshifting, but loading TV shows up into iMovie and playing editor, and borrowing scenes for their own nefarious purposes, then maybe there'd be something. But what are the odds of that? The main reason the industry's switching to digital TV seems to be because there are ways to lock down and control content unilaterally and absolutely.

you're right, i only read the first 2 posts, and not the applenut's 2nd...

(i was looking at bestbuy.com tv prices)

but my point is that in a dorm, you're usually watching tv while doing homework and you have a friends or roommates over doing completely different work that wanna watch tv, too...plus, you have IM's from friends and family going on constantly...tv on your screen doesn't seem suited to dorm life at all...unless you have no homework...

considering that the iMac 17" academic price is $300 less than 20"(w/ same features), and a tv bigger than 20" can be found at bestbuy for under $300 - a 20" iMac w/ a tuner (if it could be made for all countries) wouldn't really be worth it...

though, i agree an optical out would be nice...

i dont know about other dorms....but mine doesnt have much more space after i set up a computer.....laptop or desktop. and even if i did add a tv here, it could never be as large as 20 inches simply because i dont have the space. if the iMac had a TV tuner I COULD have a 20 inch tv because they would be occupying the same space.

and with the high resolution and 20 inches, it would not be insane to watch TV in a window while IMing or doing work. Heck, I did so on my 15 inch powerbook with crappy resolution for the World Series (my brother streamed it to me via iChat AV).

People are saying the all-in-one is dead, but I don't think Apple has taken the all-in-one all the way.

TV tuners arent that expensive. Apple was selling internal add-ons for 99 bucks back in 1996. They were included on Performas which sold for 1299, 1499, and 1699.

Now it's 2004 and we're paying 2199 and its not even an option anymore.

The old Apple TV/FM tuner supported NTSC and Secam so I don't see why that would be a problem. But I wouldn't even mind if Apple didn't support that.....go all digital....go only High-def......it's gonna be required by tv manufacturers soon enough anyways.

I don't really see the space issue complaints.. I live in a 10x12 room with my roommate, which is smaller by atleast 2 feet due to a chimney. I have a large 19 inch LCD with a large tower computer. I also have in here an old school big box stereo with large 3 foot high speakers, plus a 27 inch flat crt Sony Wega, ontop of a futon, not even counting my freinds desk and his Bass Amp. We have no lack of space what so ever in this dorm room. Aside from this LCD TV isn't all that great. I'll take my Sony over it any day, and when I get a new HDTV, I might just dump my VGA moniter for DVI inputs. No offence to apple, but why give someone an inferior quality TV picture for the cost of probably 200 dollars more, in apples largely overly priced products.