I decided to make a thread for this because HDNet is going to be running these both live and then on tape delay a few hours later from now on, which I think is close enough to the actual airing that I want to watch them live without having the results ruined.

Spoilers ARE allowed in this thread. I just didn't want them in CTDWAT where you don't know what you're getting into. In this thread, it's real simple - no spoiler tags needed but don't read the thread if you don't want to (potentially) be spoiled.

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- I don't really enjoy watching Aoki fight very much. The whole jump into guard and then do nothing with it is kinda like a Jake O'Brien gameplan in reverse.

- Kin was apparently supposed to get hammered but that welt he left on Minowaman's leg was sick. It was a whole footprint! Having the fight in HD really helped out seeing that. Watching the fight - I felt like he easily won but Trigg wasn't so sure. Kenny Rice agreed with Trigg but he's a monkey who knows absolutely nothing. I found myself rooting for Kin and I'm glad he pulled it out.

- Dong Sik Yoon is looking a lot better these days but not being in there with Rampage, Sakuraba, etc. probably helps. He easily took this fight but really stamped it home at the end.

- Galesic - nice arm bar. Great speech to win over the Japanese fans as well.

- Jacare is a beast. He's got the look and the skills to be a big star, either in Japan or here in the US. He steamrolled Murphy, who I sorta felt bad for. He had a nice pedigree and he got a really bad matchup for his MMA debut. I'm pulling for Jacare in this entire tournament.

- One interesting point is that Trigg called Jacare the best BJJ practitioner in the history of MMA. He specifically said that he's better than Nogueira and better than B.J. Penn. Interesting point. I wonder if that's accurate or not believable because they both train with Randy.

- Tamura looked impressive with that KO. Look forward to his second round match.

- Kang shit the bed. The end. He just placed himself in that triangle. Gegard was like, "Oh? Oh really. Ok. I'll synch that in then. Thank you!"

- Sakuraba looked ok. Let's just hope he keeps it up through the grand prix - maybe give the Japanese fans one last good run.

I enjoyed the show a lot.

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I saw the 1st two fights of Dream 2 last night. Why exactly was Kin yellow-carded? To me, it didn't look like he stalled. If anything he was pressing the action as evidenced by his opponent's leg. I was watching w/ a friend so if the announcers explained it better, I missed it. I mean if Kin got yellow-carded, shouldn't Aoki have been given the same fate. He wasn't Captain Aggressive out there either.

Bare in mind, this is all coming from a casual MMA fan.

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- One interesting point is that Trigg called Jacare the best BJJ practitioner in the history of MMA. He specifically said that he's better than Nogueira and better than B.J. Penn. Interesting point. I wonder if that's accurate or not believable because they both train with Randy.

I wouldn't argue Trigg's point at all... Have you seen Jacare's clips in submission tournaments? Search up his highlight reel.

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Kin is a very dangerous opponent for anyone. He's a bit up there in years, but his stand up is as good or better than anyone's in the division. Minowa hasn't looked good for a while, but since he's somewhat of a draw he always ends up on cards somewhere.

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This is my card of the year so far. I was thinking that BEFORE Alvarez/Hansen which is EASILY my fight of the year. Amazing fight. Constant banging...Alvarez just kept punishing Hansen but Hansen would not stay down under any circumstance... and then the armbar escape from Alvarez in the 2nd round... ending the fight with the headkick and the displays of affection from both fighters after the fight. FOTYC.

Shoji won me over with his banging and swank armbar escape but you can't really compete with the smooth jazz of Yamazaki.

Mayhem with the amazing breakdance entrance and constantly playing to the cameras while he dismantled his opponent was highly entertaining. He looked incredible.

Manhoef avoiding the early upset bid and finishing with the killer knee was nice. He also had a great entrance with the dog on the leash. Great fight.

Kawijiri and Nakamura both looking very impressive in entertaining decisions.

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Absolutely fantastic show last night...Only marred by HD Net's horrible production. Although, Bas appearing to be either falling asleep or drunk off his ass was fantastically entertaining.

If it's possible right now for DREAM to make stars, then they did last night with Mayhem, Alvarez, and Hansen. Just great work in those fights...Mayhem made his absolute mauling of Shibata entertaining, while Alvarez and Hansen was one of the best fights in some time.

Uno looked fantastic in his fight with Ishida...but after Hansen/Alvarez the fan's weren't super into it. They were too burnt out from the last fight.

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I think Sam Caplan is being a bit of a whiner and maybe a bit of elitist here. "I remember PRIDE. What, don't you remember PRIDE? How could you like this - you must not be a real MMA fan." /translation

I completely enjoyed the show without ever once comparing it to PRIDE in my mind. Yeah - Kenny and Bas sucked (Kenny always does) but they were doing it live in Los Angeles from midnight to 5 AM, of course they aren't going to be bringing their A+ game. But it was a great night of fights and a better overall card then any UFC show so far this year.

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He complains about fighters not being built up, but it was HDNET that did not air the official videos. What we got were *not* DREAM videos. For whatever reason, HDNET made the choice to ignore all official videos and make their own for Miller and someone else that I can't remember. Why they did this? No idea.

And I've heard people hyping about mismatches...There weren't many on this card. There were two you could qualify for that. Melvin's opponent (who is now 4-4...but we've seen with the DONGER that, that record doesn't mean much), and Mayhem's opponent in Shibata. Nakamura's opponent was a former silver judo medalist who nearly beat Aoki and Ishida. That is *not* a can. Just like how Donger was never a can because he was always competitive. A can is someone who comes in and just loses without a fight...Like Yamamoto. Great can there.

And I bet my ass in the live Japan broadcast they played up Mayhem's style of "Pro-Wrestling" against the former pro-wrestler. Sadly, we did not get that.

Almost all the complaints of this show on the article stem from the HDNET side. DREAM Has no control over what HDNET decides to do with the feed.

And all I can say about the ramp is...That's a complaint? I mean...really? DREAM can't afford huge rampways, I mean, fuck, their running the Saitama Super Arena every month. Their BLEEDING MONEY. How can they afford a huge ramp?!

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Mayhem being legitimately batshit insane might be one reason. I've also heard that he's on the Lindland tip of "I want the freedom to fight elsewhere." But yeah, he's almost always entertaining. I hope EliteXC picks him up as there's a match to be made between him and Lawler.

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I'd be excited for this card if I actually had a chance to see it. I'm still going to be looking for the results of that Mayhem/Jacare match as soon as I can find them... hopefully it will be a fight worth tracking down when I have a real internet connection again.

Still not sure wtf is up with that grappling match, though. So strange.