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Re: Reds sign Todd Redmond to Major League Contract

Redmond is a major leaguer next year, not AAA depth - assuming that the poster is correct who said he is out of options.

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Yea, my mistake, he is out of options. I remember that now.
The Reds might be able to sneak him down to AAA at the end of spring training though. Not sure if that is the plan, but it's possible.

Maybe this move gives them some flexiblity to trade someone like LeCure/Logan/Arrendondo? Maybe the plan is to make Redmond a middle reliever. I remember Dusty's comment last year that Simon earned a "promotion" in the pen, but shortly thereafter we traded for Broxton.

Or maybe it's not that complicated. Maybe they just signed him for depth, hoping to upgrade during the offseason and figure it's worth spending 490k to have depth now, even if they cut him.. Maybe it's not even a guaranteed contract, since he's not arb eligible.. I recall some rule that you can cut a player early in the season and only pay about 20% under some circumstances (contracts that are not guaranteed)

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Re: Reds sign Todd Redmond to Major League Contract

Yea, my mistake, he is out of options. I remember that now.
The Reds might be able to sneak him down to AAA at the end of spring training though. Not sure if that is the plan, but it's possible.

Maybe this move gives them some flexiblity to trade someone like LeCure/Logan/Arrendondo? Maybe the plan is to make Redmond a middle reliever. I remember Dusty's comment last year that Simon earned a "promotion" in the pen, but shortly thereafter we traded for Broxton.

Or maybe it's not that complicated. Maybe they just signed him for depth, hoping to upgrade during the offseason and figure it's worth spending 490k to have depth now, even if they cut him.. Maybe it's not even a guaranteed contract, since he's not arb eligible.. I recall some rule that you can cut a player early in the season and only pay about 20% under some circumstances (contracts that are not guaranteed)

Re: Reds sign Todd Redmond to Major League Contract

Originally Posted by PuffyPig

Redmond is an excellent AAA pitcher.

I guess I look at a good AAA team as one that has some good short term options to fill short term needs due to injury. Last year's team was completely void of that type of talent and had a horrible record. I get excited over almost there, upwardly mobile types to care one lick about what's at AAA. Todd Redmond doesn't fit that bill, so his skill of "good AAA pitcher" is worth the same as a baseball card in the bike spokes to me.

Re: Reds sign Todd Redmond to Major League Contract

This is pretty much a non-story. Redmond was already on the 40-man roster. And yes, Redmond is out of options. If he doesn't make the team next year, he will be DFAed i.e. put on waivers. Because Redmond has been outrighted before, if no one claims him on waivers, Redmond has the option of becoming a free agent or being assigned to the minors.

Re: Reds sign Todd Redmond to Major League Contract

Originally Posted by camisadelgolf

This is pretty much a non-story. Redmond was already on the 40-man roster. And yes, Redmond is out of options. If he doesn't make the team next year, he will be DFAed i.e. put on waivers. Because Redmond has been outrighted before, if no one claims him on waivers, Redmond has the option of becoming a free agent or being assigned to the minors.

He'd likely choose going to the minors and collecting his major league contract.

This is about the Reds assuring themselves they have depth at AAA if needed in the starting pitching ranks. Cheap insurance.

Re: Reds sign Todd Redmond to Major League Contract

If it's a major league contract, that means he has to be on the 40 man roster, and since he's out of options, it means he has to be on the 25 man roster. As what? The new long man? I certainly can't see him in the rotation. And I think both LeCure and Simon are better options as "long men". This one's puzzling to me. As AAA depth, it's great. But I don't think it can even BE that option.

And I was under the assumption that ALL major league contracts are guaranteed. It's the minor league contracts that have that option. Or have I been wrong in that assumption. It certainly wouldn't be the first time. :O)

Re: Reds sign Todd Redmond to Major League Contract

I think there's not much really to be read into this move. I'd guess they think there's a good enough chance that Redmond is a usable major league arm that they don't want to lose him. A good spring training performance ought to get him the 7th spot in the bullpen, assuming no injury to a starter. If you wanted to make more of this, it'd probably be that Leake is either going to be moved or starting opening day in L'ville.

Re: Reds sign Todd Redmond to Major League Contract

Originally Posted by camisadelgolf

It's basically a minor league contract that pays him a lot more than a minor league contract would.

This.

I do think this move makes Tony Cingrani much more likely to be a reliever with the Reds. Add the Broxton free agent dance (with Chapman being moved to the rotation should that happen), and you can begin to see that Jocketty is setting up an opportunity to deal a starter. Or two.

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Re: Reds sign Todd Redmond to Major League Contract

Originally Posted by mdccclxix

I don't know what his offerings are like, but he could be in line for a Sam Lecure type of role.

My exact thoughts.

I'm going to assume that Lecure has been promoted to...setup or the like. You then have Broxton (assuming the rumors of them being close to working out a 3yr deal), Hoover, Marshall, Lecure as the main guys in the pen.

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