Wow, Dallas in the SuperBowl .........that's bold I will say. You should
hustle on down to your local sportsbook, the Cowboys are currently at 25-1,
up from their summertime 33-1 for some reason, grouped with the Bengals and
the Bears at basically 10-12th.

My personal pick for the NFC would be a coin toss between San Francisco and
Seattle, 6-1 and 8-1 respectively, with the Packers and Giants as my next
picks. To be honest I think the NFC East is basically even, I see nothing
to indicate that any one of the four teams as a clear cut winner. I see New
Orleans being improved but no longer a dominant team and would expect
better performances from Chicago and Detroit with declines for Minnesota
and Atlanta. Washington and Philly are the big mystery teams, the Redskins
could go 12-4 or 8-8 .

I don't follow the AFC much but the odds makers love Denver, even before
last night, New England and Houston. I personally think the Chiefs,Bengals
and Browns improving, Baltimore, Houston and Indianapolis declining. San
Diego and Pittsburgh are my mystery teams.

Overall I think the NFC is vastly superior to the AFC, the AFC East is
easily the worst division in football .

I'll call Seattle over Denver in the Super Bowl, but I don't have any
realistic expectations that my guess is any more likely than any of 8-10
possible winners, none of whom will be from Dallas.

I also think this is the year the Cowboys put it all together. Austin and
Murray are healthy for once (we'll see how long that lasts), Dez Bryant is
entering another world, and Romo and Witten are still madly in love as far
as I know. They made some upgrades on the o-line. Their offense should be
top of the top.

But yeah the NFC is impossible to predict...so many good teams. Denver
should win the AFC easy, Pats and Texans have already peaked, and I still
think they're #2 and 3. AFC is a real pile of garb

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" - Vince Lombardi
"The game is the game." - Omar Little
"No one wins. One side just loses more slowly." - Prez
"I don't need your civil war. It feeds the rich while it buries the poor." - Civil War - Guns N' Roses
"The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older. Shorter of breath and one day closer to death." - Time - Pink Floyd

i used to think cubs fans were the most loyal, living forever on 1908. but
truly, in football terms, living forever on 1968 ('69 super bowl but of
course the 1968 season, that is a real problem btw) is more noteworthy.
jets fans take the title as most loyal.*

NFC East - New York (football giants)
NFC North - Detroit
NFC West - Seattle
NFC South - New Orleans
Wildcard A - San Francisco
Wildcard B - Green Bay

I'll take New York (football giants) over Cincinnati. (Yes, I know that
they committed 6 turnovers against Dallas, phoey.)

Green Bay and San Fran play brutal schedules this season, and I think it
will be enough for a revamped and pumped Lions team to sneak the division
title and for Russell Wilson's magic feet to bring hope to the Emerald
City.

Denver is wonderful, but everyone is picking them this year. Everyone.
Isn't there some "anti-wisdom of crowds" thing that matters? I don't
know. Manning will figure out how to lose in January.

It is tough being a Jets fan. To be honest I have very little faith in Geno
and kind of hope we have a top 2 pick this year and get either Clowney or
Bridgewater. However the Pats looked very weak yesterday and with Vereen
out I think we have a shot.

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" - Vince Lombardi
"The game is the game." - Omar Little
"No one wins. One side just loses more slowly." - Prez
"I don't need your civil war. It feeds the rich while it buries the poor." - Civil War - Guns N' Roses
"The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older. Shorter of breath and one day closer to death." - Time - Pink Floyd

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" - Vince Lombardi
"The game is the game." - Omar Little
"No one wins. One side just loses more slowly." - Prez
"I don't need your civil war. It feeds the rich while it buries the poor." - Civil War - Guns N' Roses
"The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older. Shorter of breath and one day closer to death." - Time - Pink Floyd

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posted on 9-10-2013 at 02:27 PM

AFCE- Patriots (does anyone else even play in this division?)
AFCN- Bengals (honestly, i'm not buying it but the rest of the division
looks worse)
AFCS- Texans (I think the colts take a small step back and there isn't
anyone else)
AFCW- Broncos (clearly the class of a weak division)
WC1- Chiefs (best 2-14 team in history now with a real qb, a real coach and
a good sched)
WC2- Ravens (best of the rest)

Texans over Ravens
Chiefs over Bengals
Pats over Chiefs
Broncos over Texans
Broncos over Pats

After Week One the NFC East looks weird. The Giants are a wreck. The
Cowboys couldn't take advantage of 1st quarter TOs. The Redskins are
pedestrian with an RGIII who can't run. And the Eagles petered out in the
second half. Should be interesting.

Biggest surprise of Week One for me was Rex Ryan not being able to find a
way to lose.

really? Rex Ryan is a very good coach. He probably deserves a lot of flak
for his tattoos and weird extracurriculars, but this is a guy who took a
team with primary offensive weapons Mark Sanchez and Shonn Greene to back
to back conference title games, including playoff wins over Peyton Manning
and Tom Brady.

He will almost certainly be fired after this season, but it'll be a
mistake. He's definitely an above-average coach, even though he's
ideally suited for defensive coordination. He's not the Jets' problem,
our problem is that we finally managed to replace the Sanchez/Greene
catastrophe with guys who might not even be better than them, although
Geno's debut offered some promise.

I completely agree with Paul. I never understood everyone calling for Rex
to get fired. The issue with the Jets isn't the coach, it's that
there's no talent on the roster. No coach would've had a good season the
past two years with this team.

Personally I think Rex is an above average coach. For some reason in all
sports people like to take it out on the coach/manager when the team
doesn't do well. Sometimes it is justified; the coach and players don't
get along well. Most of the time the coach/manager is fired because it is
easier than dealing with the real issue- the players on the team just are
not that good. Granted, Rex is sometimes a little strange, but if you would
put Belichick, Parcells, Lombardi, Walsh, Gibbs and Shula ( and any other
legendary coach you like) as the Jets head coaches last season and they
still would not have made the playoffs. You can't win with crappy players.
There is a reason that the great Casey Stengel won all those World Series
rings with the Yankees and set the single season loss record with the Mets.
The Yankees had great players, the Mets had terrible players.

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" - Vince Lombardi
"The game is the game." - Omar Little
"No one wins. One side just loses more slowly." - Prez
"I don't need your civil war. It feeds the rich while it buries the poor." - Civil War - Guns N' Roses
"The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older. Shorter of breath and one day closer to death." - Time - Pink Floyd

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posted on 9-12-2013 at 03:17 PM

I guess that depends on how you look at it. he took two teams
quarterbacked by mark sanchez to the afc championship game. that's an
accomplishment. there's nothing wrong with the jets that some better
players wouldn't fix. that's not on the coach. it's not like he's
been a .530 coach with the 92-93 cowboys or 75 steelers at his disposal.

Originally posted by cowboymatt43
Jeff Fisher has the same winning percentage. It would take a certain kind
of crazy to call him a good coach too. Wouldn't it?

Why would you be crazy for calling Fisher a good coach ? Fisher took
Tennessee to the playoffs six times, winning an AFC Championship and coming
within a yard of forcing OT in the Super Bowl. His team won 13 games in a
season on three separate occasions, won three divisional titles and went
to two AFC Championships .

At this point I have to wonder what you consider a "good coach" to be ?
Do you have to be Belichick, Noll or Walsh to grade out as good on the
Cowboymatt scale ?