Why is GV sending me an email about the Wu Tang and Rage shows with absolutely ridiculous statments in that email like: 'The opportunity to galvanize the social and political consciousness of these groups is undeniable.'

OK, you can say that about RATM but Wu Tang? Social and political consciousness? C'mon...

I'm not a Wu Tang fan at all but here's the lyrics to the first song I clicked on
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/wutangclan/shameonanigga.html. The others are much the same for the ones I clicked on.

Too many people are afraid to call bullshit on bands like this in case someone says they're racist or just don't understand urban black culture. That argument is tired. Bottom line: You have to be a complete fucking idiot to get excited about lyrics like these.

Sample lyrics:
Yo...!
I come with that ol' loco
Style from my vocal
Couldn't peep it with a pair of bi-focals
I'm no joker! Play me as a joker
Be on you like a house on fire! Smoke ya!
Crews be actin like they gangs, anyway
Be like, "Warriors! Come out and playiyay!"
Burn me, I get into shit, I let it out like diarrhea
Got burnt once, but that was only gonorrhea
Dirty, I keep shit stinks in my drawers
So I can get fzza-funky for yah
Murder, taste the flame of the Wu-Tang RAHH!
Here comes the Tiger verse Crane!
Ow, be like wild with my style
Punk! You playing me, chump, you get DUMPED
WU! Is comin THROUGH! At a theatre near YOU!
And get funk like a SHOE!
What?!

kimery08

02-26-2007, 10:32 AM

wu tang clan aint nuttin ta fuck wit

offyerhead

02-26-2007, 10:45 AM

wu tang clan aint nuttin ta fuck wit

...and that's what I look for in a band. especially when they repeat that same message in virtually every song.

ghettojournalist

02-26-2007, 10:49 AM

you are a foolish little person who should go away...off with your head.

chairmenmeow47

02-26-2007, 10:52 AM

dolla dolla bills, y'all...

vinylmartyr

02-26-2007, 11:01 AM

Wu Tang is shitty except that 1st album The solo records are good though.

offyerhead

02-26-2007, 11:05 AM

you are a foolish little person who should go away...off with your head.

You're right. This stuff is full of social consciousness. It's like reading Chomsky.

Yeahhh, torture motherfucker what?
(Torture ***** what?)
What?
I'll fuckin
I'll fuckin tie you to a fuckin bedpost
with your ass cheeks spread out and shit
Right?
Put a hanger on a fuckin stove and let that shit sit there
for like a half hour
Take it off and stick it in your ass slow like
Tssssssss

we sent the press release about the additional rage shows to be nice. geez.

J~$$$

02-26-2007, 11:16 AM

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2795957

york707

02-26-2007, 11:19 AM

What was spam about it? You agreed to get those emails. I imagine you can unsubscribe, too.

ToddThaGod

02-26-2007, 11:19 AM

YOU NEED TO DIVERSIFY YO BONDS *****

ghettojournalist

02-26-2007, 11:19 AM

i'm not saying that wu-tang=chaucer.
there is very little social consciousness to be found
but everything you are posting is from a beloved, classic hip-hop album.
almost anyone that is into hip-hop can't deny that album.

J~$$$

02-26-2007, 11:21 AM

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2795909

offyerhead

02-26-2007, 11:22 AM

uh...you're reading a skit. not a song.

so? they're being sold as 'socially and politically conscious'. whether it's a skit or a song it's misogynist. but that's OK isn't it because they're rappers.

bballarl

02-26-2007, 11:24 AM

Spam and clan don't rhyme. You're a whack MC.

MrAmeche

02-26-2007, 11:30 AM

whether it's a skit or a song it's misogynist.
It's two dudes joking around about torturing each other. WTF does that have to do with misogyny?

offyerhead

02-26-2007, 11:32 AM

i'm not saying that wu-tang=chaucer.
there is very little social consciousness to be found
but everything you are posting is from a beloved, classic hip-hop album.
almost anyone that is into hip-hop can't deny that album.

and that's fair enough. my main objection is to validating wu-tang as being something they definitely aren't: socially conscious.

pairing them with RATM is an interesting statement. just not sure if it says more about RATM, Wu Tang or who the promoters feel will buy tickets to these shows.

offyerhead

02-26-2007, 11:41 AM

It's two dudes joking around about torturing each other. WTF does that have to do with misogyny?

true. so I'll change "misogyny" to "misanthropic"

again, does this make it socially conscious? it's a pile of shit marketed to 'know what I'm sayin..' mouth breathers.

bballarl

02-26-2007, 11:44 AM

How's this for socially conscious?! :

[Intro: Raekwon the Chef, Method Man]

What that ***** want God?
Word up, look out for the cops (Wu-Tang five finger shit)
(Cash Rules) Word up, two for fives over here baby
Word up, two for fives them niggaz got garbage down the way, word up
KnowhatI'msayin?
(Cash Rules Everything Around Me
C.R.E.A.M. get...)
Yeah, check this ol fly shit out
Word up
(Cash Rules Everything Around Me) Take you on a natural joint
(C.R.E.A.M. get the money) Here we here we go
(dolla dolla bill y'all) Check this shit, yo!

[Verse One: Raekwon the Chef]

I grew up on the crime side, the New York Times side
Staying alive was no jive
At second hands, moms bounced on old men
So then we moved to Shaolin land
A young youth, yo rockin the gold tooth, 'Lo goose
Only way, I begin to gee off was drug loot
And let's start it like this son, rollin with this one
And that one, pullin out gats for fun
But it was just a dream for the teen, who was a fiend
Started smokin woolies at sixteen
And running up in gates, and doing hits for high stakes
Making my way on fire escapes
No question I would speed, for cracks and weed
The combination made my eyes bleed
No question I would flow off, and try to get the dough all
Sticking up white boys in ball courts
My life got no better, same damn 'Lo sweater
Times is ruff and tuff like leather
Figured out I went the wrong route
So I got with a sick ass click and went all out
Catchin keys from across seas
Rollin in MPV's, every week we made forty G's
Yo ***** respect mine, or anger the tech nine
Ch-chick-POW! Move from the gate now

It's been twenty-two long hard years of still strugglin
Survival got me buggin, but I'm alive on arrival
I peep at the shape of the streets
And stay awake to the ways of the world cause shit is deep
A man with a dream with plans to make C.R.E.A.M.
Which failed; I went to jail at the age of 15
A young buck sellin drugs and such who never had much
Trying to get a clutch at what I could not... could not...
The court played me short, now I face incarceration
Pacin -- going up state's my destination
Handcuffed in back of a bus, forty of us
Life as a shorty shouldn't be so ruff
But as the world turns I learned life is hell
Living in the world no different from a cell
Everyday I escape from Jakes givin chase, sellin base
Smokin bones in the staircase
Though I don't know why I chose to smoke sess
I guess that's the time when I'm not depressed
But I'm still depressed, and I ask what's it worth?
Ready to give up so I seek the Old Earth
Who explained working hard may help you maintain
to learn to overcome the heartaches and pain
We got stickup kids, corrupt cops, and crack rocks
and stray shots, all on the block that stays hot
Leave it up to me while I be living proof
To kick the truth to the young black youth
But shorty's running wild smokin sess drinkin beer
And ain't trying to hear what I'm kickin in his ear
Neglected, but now, but yo, it gots to be accepted
That what? That life is hectic

[Outro:]

[Chorus -- 4X]

Niggas gots to do what they gotta do, to get a bill
YaknowhatI'msayin?
Cuz we can't just get by no more
Word up, we gotta get over, straight up and down

some radio station was in the parking lot of this place where my sister was getting her nails done. to make a long story short i stood on a table, sang odb's "hey dirty" song (i dont know if thats the title) in its entirety, and got his cd for free.
not one of my proudest moments but... its funny.

Why is GV sending me an email about the Wu Tang and Rage shows with absolutely ridiculous statments in that email like: 'The opportunity to galvanize the social and political consciousness of these groups is undeniable.'

OK, you can say that about RATM but Wu Tang? Social and political consciousness? C'mon...

I'm not a Wu Tang fan at all but here's the lyrics to the first song I clicked on
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/wutangclan/shameonanigga.html. The others are much the same for the ones I clicked on.

Too many people are afraid to call bullshit on bands like this in case someone says they're racist or just don't understand urban black culture. That argument is tired. Bottom line: You have to be a complete fucking idiot to get excited about lyrics like these.

Sample lyrics:
Yo...!
I come with that ol' loco
Style from my vocal
Couldn't peep it with a pair of bi-focals
I'm no joker! Play me as a joker
Be on you like a house on fire! Smoke ya!
Crews be actin like they gangs, anyway
Be like, "Warriors! Come out and playiyay!"
Burn me, I get into shit, I let it out like diarrhea
Got burnt once, but that was only gonorrhea
Dirty, I keep shit stinks in my drawers
So I can get fzza-funky for yah
Murder, taste the flame of the Wu-Tang RAHH!
Here comes the Tiger verse Crane!
Ow, be like wild with my style
Punk! You playing me, chump, you get DUMPED
WU! Is comin THROUGH! At a theatre near YOU!
And get funk like a SHOE!
What?!

What you term as "Bullshit", I call absolutely brilliant & creative Rap lyrics from one of my favorite rap acts of all time from right here in nYc.

FYI, when it comes to things that are inherently subjective like music, art, etc...: simply because you dont:

1) "Get it"
2) Like it

-and/or-

3) Understand it

DOES NOT necessarily mean it isn't good.

It just means that you didn't like it.

...nothing more. :winkiss

911wasaninsidejob

02-26-2007, 08:46 PM

and that's fair enough. my main objection is to validating wu-tang as being something they definitely aren't: socially conscious.

Not "Socially conscious"...TO WHOM!!??? ONLY You?

To a whole bunch of people here in New York City with brown/black/yellow, hell even white skin, they are VERY socially conscious vis a vis what is happening currently in urban America.

I suspect you are confusing the term "socially conscious", with "socially responsible".

There is a distinct difference between the two.

The Wu is most DEFINITELY socially conscious. To claim otherwise simply means you have no clue.

for some of you youngsters, rage and wu tang were going to do a tour together back in 97 and i think they were able to pull off like 2 or 3 shows but it went no where cuz wu tang was pretty much wasted and with ol dirty, method, and the rest all partying, they just couldnt pull it together. in the hip hop world, they are legends with alot of talent in that group. rza is the mastermind and with them and rage on the same bill, its the perfect pairing if wu-tang can get their shit together.. wu tang is perfect for a warmup to rage..

Mr.Nipples

02-26-2007, 09:31 PM

offyerhead, you wouldnt know good music if you had a gramophone/phonograph looping the white album surgically grafted to your fucking head.

offyerhead, you wouldnt know good music if you had a gramophone/phonograph looping the white album surgically grafted to your fucking head.

funny that we both seem to be going to the same festival then isn't it? Didn't really think that one through did you...

offyerhead

02-26-2007, 11:44 PM

Not "Socially conscious"...TO WHOM!!??? ONLY You?

To a whole bunch of people here in New York City with brown/black/yellow, hell even white skin, they are VERY socially conscious vis a vis what is happening currently in urban America.

I suspect you are confusing the term "socially conscious", with "socially responsible".

There is a distinct difference between the two.

The Wu is most DEFINITELY socially conscious. To claim otherwise simply means you have no clue.

Well, there was at least one Wu Tang fan on this thread who agreed that while he thought they were fantastic they were not 'socially conscious.' It's a pretty vague notion but I just can't see it myself.

Just wondering...If I don't believe 911 was an inside job, would that also get the reply that I don't have a clue? Funny how conspiracy theorists are generally so quick to tell people they don't have a clue.

Son of MJK

02-27-2007, 12:17 AM

i saw them at the meadows music theatre in Hartford 97' was a sic show, def goin to see them in San bernadino, Rage twice in one Summer!!!

Mr.Nipples

02-27-2007, 01:22 AM

funny that we both seem to be going to the same festival then isn't it? Didn't really think that one through did you...

I love the movie 36th Chamber of Shaolin AKA: Shaolin Master Killer, Master Killer. My friends Vietnamese grandmother has a wde collection of kung-fu flicks from the 70's everytime I go over to borrow a movie she sends me home with a box of oranges 15 packs of gum, and a shit-ton packets of ramen bowls, not those pussy ass top-ramens but the big bowls you can usually only find at ko-mart. I love my vietnamese adopted grandma.

offyerhead

02-27-2007, 11:02 AM

is this some sort of threat?

relax. it's not a threat. here, I'll spell it out for you so you don't spend the next two months shitting yourself.

1. you're criticizing my taste in music
2. we're both going to coachella
3. that means it's quite likely that we like similar music

throw a "fuckin" and a "*****" in there and you've pretty much got a new Wu Tang song. Let's try it:

"Wu-Tang is the fuckin greatest. If you don't know, *****, then you don't know."

I think ODB would be proud. :winkiss

kimery08

02-27-2007, 03:52 PM

"if you dont know, now you know *****"

-biggie

codytwo

02-27-2007, 05:13 PM

burn

codytwo

02-27-2007, 05:18 PM

for some of you youngsters, rage and wu tang were going to do a tour together back in 97 and i think they were able to pull off like 2 or 3 shows but it went no where cuz wu tang was pretty much wasted and with ol dirty, method, and the rest all partying, they just couldnt pull it together. in the hip hop world, they are legends with alot of talent in that group. rza is the mastermind and with them and rage on the same bill, its the perfect pairing if wu-tang can get their shit together.. wu tang is perfect for a warmup to rage..

Actually, the RZA is "the sharpest mo'hfucka in tha whole clan, he always on point. Razor sharp. Wit da beats, wit da rhymes, whatevah." and when they "form like voltron" GZA "happen to be da head." And Ghostface Killah "be on some now you see me now you don't shit."

SubBass49

02-27-2007, 06:51 PM

bottom line...just because something doesn't blast on Bush or foriegn policy doesn't mean it's not socially conscious. Wu-Tang is just a different form of socially conscious music from RATM. Wu-Tang relates more to the struggle of people in urban areas...RATM relates more broadly. Don't diss it just because you don't understand it.

ToddThaGod

02-27-2007, 07:02 PM

offyerhead we know you dont like wu tang...you have a right to your opinion but don't try to break wu-tang down to a science. the more you post the more you're making yourself look bad.

Jenniehoo

02-27-2007, 07:07 PM

yer, yo, and tha.

SubBass49

02-27-2007, 09:48 PM

offyerhead...you might talk shit about Wu-Tang, but you also like The Ponys...

Some people say that Reckly looks funny in his glasses,
Susie's in black but that's how she always dresses.
I'm tall and skinny and some people say I look pretty weird,
But they don't know they just hate what they fear.

Ten fingers and 11 toes
Ten fingers and 11 toes

There goes Bobby and he's talking in class again,
Sally's walkin' like she just don't care.
I know what I'd say to all those people walkin' by,
Probably nothing at all 'cause I'm kinda shy.

Ten fingers and 11 toes
Ten fingers and 11 toes

There goes Larry with his hair,
sticking straight up into the air
And Becky's outside smoking her cigarette,
Never thinking about who, where, why, or them,
Just living their lives how they want them to be.

Ten fingers and 11 toes!
Ten fingers and 11 toes!

and

I'd love you to
To stay away from me
'Coz you're no
You're no good for me
You make me feel
Just like I'm insane, yeah
And you're trouble
You're trouble

'Coz I know
With all the things you did to me
You're feeling heaven
Now here's your chance to be free

I don't know what to do
You're gonna blow my cool
Coz I don't wanna be
Be that fool
And what it is to me baby can't you see
I'm never gonna be that way

Standing over there
You look so sweet
But I know
What you're really like
And all my friends
They say you're just a bug
And you're trouble
You're trouble

'Coz I know
With all the things you did to me
You're feeling heaven
Now here's your chance to be free

I don't know what to do
You're gonna blow my cool
But I don't wanna be
Be that fool
And what it is to me baby can't you see
I'm never gonna be that way

I'd love you to
To stay away from me
'Coz you're no
You're no good for me
You make me feel
Just like I'm insane, yeah
And you're trouble
You're trouble

'Coz I know
With all the things you did to me
You're feeling heaven
Now here's your chance to be free

I don't know what to do
You're gonna blow my cool
But I don't wanna be
Be that fool
And what it is to me baby can't you see
I'm never gonna be that way
Gonna be that way

Whew...lyrical genious...LOL!!! Gimme Wu-Tang ANY day.

-- J

offyerhead

02-27-2007, 11:15 PM

Whew...lyrical genious...LOL!!! Gimme Wu-Tang ANY day.

-- J

It's hard to have a serious discussion about genius with someone who can't spell it.

You're right. Wu-Tang is for you.

offyerhead

02-27-2007, 11:19 PM

bottom line...just because something doesn't blast on Bush or foriegn policy doesn't mean it's not socially conscious. Wu-Tang is just a different form of socially conscious music from RATM. Wu-Tang relates more to the struggle of people in urban areas...RATM relates more broadly. Don't diss it just because you don't understand it.

I'll take you seriously here because the first part of what you say is true. I still say it's a stretch to say Wu-Tang is making any sort of statement on class struggle or the racial divide. If they are making a statement, I'd like to be able to understand it. It's just so cluttered with repetitive, juvenile cliches.

offyerhead

02-27-2007, 11:35 PM

offyerhead we know you dont like wu tang...you have a right to your opinion but don't try to break wu-tang down to a science. the more you post the more you're making yourself look bad.

I'm not trying to break it down into a science. I'm looking for actual bits of comprehensible English. As for looking bad, I've looked way worse. Really, I'm kicking ass here. No one can make any real point except, 'dude, you just don't understand'

Besides, it's all just fun. I even put a smiley-kiss on my post! Look, I'll do another one! :winkiss

codytwo

02-27-2007, 11:53 PM

:2c offyerhead is racist.

codytwo

02-27-2007, 11:55 PM

also, i have a recording of an acoustic wu-tang show, minus ODB and Method Man and I think Ghostface. Its still pretty cool though. Private message me if you want it.:thu

codytwo

02-28-2007, 12:38 AM

Top three reasons why Wu-Tang Clan kicks ass:

3)

H6EZkIaJcCI

2)

N7_rnBpJTYM

1)

b2-5GSjZvW8

Boourns

02-28-2007, 12:47 AM

I'd welcome a friendly email about Rage/Wu. It'd be a nice break from all the v1a gr a and v1c 0 d1n and dick enlargement spam.

offyerhead

02-28-2007, 12:47 AM

codytwo: check your private messages

codytwo

02-28-2007, 12:57 AM

In response to offyerhead's private message, i stand by my assertion that he is racist. Furthermore, I insist that it continue to be taken with the degree of sincerity he attributed it. I demand to be taken seriously.

http://img1.vunct.net/albums/EAother-stuff/alliance_of_magicians.jpg

instinct

02-28-2007, 01:23 AM

Killer Bee's has some sick lyrics and no hooks.. just straight rappin! shit is ill!!

but yea, they are not a political group at all..

instinct

02-28-2007, 01:24 AM

I'd welcome a friendly email about Rage/Wu. It'd be a nice break from all the v1a gr a and v1c 0 d1n and dick enlargement spam.

oh i love those! forward those emails to me!

SubBass49

02-28-2007, 05:43 AM

It's hard to have a serious discussion about genius with someone who can't spell it.

You're right. Wu-Tang is for you.

Oh no...pardon my typo...sorry i didn't spell-check my post on a message board! My bad. But regardless of that little distraction, you still didn't address the fact that you like some crappy music with NO redeeming value to it's lyrics, but yet you diss Wu-Tang. Just doesn't seem to make sense to me. Seems to have more to do with racial/ethnic issues than content of lyrics. You strike me as one of those people that talks shit about the way "those people" talk and act.

-- J

offyerhead

02-28-2007, 09:17 AM

You strike me as one of those people that talks shit about the way "those people" talk and act.

-- J

Funny, one of "those people" is a very good friend of mine. I'm over at his house regularly and he recently took my daughter and his on holiday for 12 days where they stayed with more of "those people" (his relatives; some of whom dress like they're in Wu Tang...). I pointed this out to codytwo but he's just too cool to accept that it's pretty inappropriate to call someone racist when you don't know anything about them.

I don't like Wu Tang. I find the lyrical content repetitive, cliched and hard to comprehend without a lyric sheet. I see no 'social consciousness' there and that's what was being ascribed to them in the original promotional material regarding their shows with RATM. Only stunted little keyboard warriors with very little life experience could find racism in there.

Congrats, though, I'm getting sick of this board and can't be bothered dealing with people who don't get this.

LoL...the whole "I can't be racist or prejudiced...I have a Black friend" argument. LoL. A true classic of ignorant people around the US. Goes well with the "I don't even think of him as Black anymore" argument. Both of which are WIDELY recognized by people of color as well as those who love them as IGNORANT. Hehehe...but keep fightin the good fight with your "Ten fingers and 11 toes...Ten fingers and 11 toes"

LoL

J~$$$

02-28-2007, 04:24 PM

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c193/mmmmdoughnuts/B00004SQOI.jpg

Vidjo games!

kimery08

02-28-2007, 04:25 PM

you just took this to a whole new level.

J~$$$

02-28-2007, 04:26 PM

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c193/mmmmdoughnuts/1566869528.jpg

Official strategy guides!

J~$$$

02-28-2007, 04:34 PM

http://www.mess.be/inickgenwuname.php

psshhhh......my nickname is "Foolish Criminal"

codytwo

02-28-2007, 04:44 PM

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/snow2surf2003/Picture875.jpg

Look at that poser on the left thowin' up da Roc. What a lame-o.

thinnerair

02-28-2007, 04:59 PM

i own "Shaolin Style" and can tell you that game was fuckin' hard!
I also knew a kid in high school that got the W tattooed on his arm.

codytwo

02-28-2007, 05:57 PM

That first video was from Coffee and Cigarettes, a very funny movie with a very funny dialog between Iggy Pop and Tom Waits.

Mr.Nipples

02-28-2007, 08:42 PM

offyerhead has an inverted dick that resembles a frightened turtle...

codytwo

03-01-2007, 08:57 AM

Was this already posted?
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/smokey426/WuTangClan.jpg