8:07:51scottjMichaelRaskin: idk of a setting for that, what's the use case/rationale?

8:10:06MichaelRaskinWell, I just bought Uzbl's «managing switching between things is what your WM is for» some time ago

8:11:19MichaelRaskinSwitched to SlimerJS because WebKit is too close to Blink and I don't like how all this is going towards a monoculture of «IE 6.0» 2.0… And also tied all the scripts to the idea that «current browser window contains exactly one web page»

8:12:04scottjbrowser_default_open_target=OPEN_NEW_WINDOW might do what you want

8:12:04MichaelRaskinSo I want to migrate to Conkeror, nuke most of its bindings and make it behave as «Gecko in the form that can interact with StumpWM»

8:35:08MichaelRaskinThat bad — I mean that maybe just stripping Firefox down and using Marionette is cpeed-comparable with Conkeror. Looks like not yet, Firefox open-close takes 2.1s vs 1.6s for Conkeror

8:43:57MichaelRaskinNothing is wrong with Uzbl per se, but WebKit + Blink are close enough to create a «IE6.0» 2.0 situation, where some set of quirks is not even documented well enough but becomes a de-facto web standard, and then everything stagnates

9:08:10MichaelRaskinIt may be that fixing the crash will make updating the code in SlimerJS and Conkeror feasible

10:52:14impaktorHmm, one can install stumpwm through quicklisp. Didn't know that. I use the git repo.

11:03:10impaktorscottj: in the blog post on swank+stump he uses port 4004 instead of 4005, is there any difference? "This ensures you can’t mess up your WM by accident while writing unrelated code." http://www.kaashif.co.uk/2015/06/28/hacking-stumpwm-with-common-lisp/index.html

11:03:56MichaelRaskinI think the point is that you do not confuse your StumpWM SLIME and SLIME you use for debugging other code not related for StumpWM

11:04:25MichaelRaskinIf you never use SLIME except for controlling StumpWM, this advice is not for you

11:04:25impaktorif using port 4005, and I write a function, outside the stumpwm:: namespace (sorry for using c++ terminology), can it interfere with stump?

11:05:13impaktorMichaelRaskin: I do play around in slime sometimes, yes. So then 4004 is probably better for me, I guess.

11:05:21MichaelRaskinWell, you can send '(quit)' to the Common Lisp via SLIME, if it was not for StumpWM…

11:05:50MichaelRaskinStumpWM will evaluate '(quit)' just fine, but that would be annoying

11:57:30impaktorHmm, I've installed slime through quicklisp, as I had problems running the ELPA version (don't remember why now), but if I want to install slime-company for auto-completion... it seems to drag in the ELPA slime version, so I get two. Any advice?

11:58:17MichaelRaskinWell, if you are brave, load ELPA version then the QuickLisp one.

12:20:34impaktorAnd as I said, it didn't work, and it wasn't due to something I did wrong, I don't remember where I had the discussion, might have been over in #lisp.

12:21:58impaktor...but the channel wizards had a discussion among themselves about the pros and cons of ELPA vs. quicklisp install of slime, and after discussion all ELPA proponents saw the rationale in using it through quicklisp.

12:22:15impaktorI'm not a lisp or slime or swank expert so I can't explain it any more.

12:22:43impaktorI got the help I needed and was happy with that. I suggest you direct further questions on ELPA vs quicklisp in #lisp.