You might be right, the Hells Angels colors have a thick white outline on the back of their vests, and I don't see that on any of the few that are turned somewhat. I dont believe the Patriot Riders have a standard insignia.

I run into members of the Pagans a lot around here at bars. As long as you keep your distance and don't make eye contact, hopefully you'll be OK

mac5155 wrote:You might be right, the Hells Angels colors have a thick white outline on the back of their vests, and I don't see that on any of the few that are turned somewhat. I dont believe the Patriot Riders have a standard insignia.

I run into members of the Pagans a lot around here at bars. As long as you keep your distance and don't make eye contact, hopefully you'll be OK

In my experience, a lot of bikers are okay people as long as you keep your nose out of their business. The local Hell's Angels do a ton a charity work around here, for example.

mac5155 wrote:You might be right, the Hells Angels colors have a thick white outline on the back of their vests, and I don't see that on any of the few that are turned somewhat. I dont believe the Patriot Riders have a standard insignia.

I run into members of the Pagans a lot around here at bars. As long as you keep your distance and don't make eye contact, hopefully you'll be OK

When I lived in New Stanton they were starting a run there. The little town was seriously overrun with Pagans. There had to be 200 of them. It was crazy to see.

mac5155 wrote:You might be right, the Hells Angels colors have a thick white outline on the back of their vests, and I don't see that on any of the few that are turned somewhat. I dont believe the Patriot Riders have a standard insignia.

I run into members of the Pagans a lot around here at bars. As long as you keep your distance and don't make eye contact, hopefully you'll be OK :lol:

When I lived in New Stanton they were starting a run there. The little town was seriously overrun with Pagans. There had to be 200 of them. It was crazy to see.

mac5155 wrote:You might be right, the Hells Angels colors have a thick white outline on the back of their vests, and I don't see that on any of the few that are turned somewhat. I dont believe the Patriot Riders have a standard insignia.

I run into members of the Pagans a lot around here at bars. As long as you keep your distance and don't make eye contact, hopefully you'll be OK

In my experience, a lot of bikers are okay people as long as you keep your nose out of their business. The local Hell's Angels do a ton a charity work around here, for example.

This was the point I was making earlier. I've never had a single problem with the HAMC. In fact, I've actually had a few of them help me out on occasion. Some of the other M.C. Clubs, no so much.

GEESEYTOWN, BLAIR COUNTY - WTAJ News is learning of a shooting near Geeseytown, east of Hollidaysburg, that involves state troopers.4 people are dead, 3 males and 1 female, in a shooting near Geeseytown. The suspect in the shooting is among the dead. 3 state troopers have also been injured, 1 of them was shot. The troopers' injuries are not life-threatening.The crime scene is large in scale, and every Blair County unit is working the scene.This started on a farm near Geeseytown on Juniata Valley Road Friday morning. We have not learned of a motive as of now.The Blair County Emergency Management Agency's Facebook page says the situation at the scene is under control and there is no longer a threat to the community.

Turns out one of the deceased in the Geeseytown shooting was in my graduating class at Hollidaysburg SH in '91, and his surviving wife graduated from there in '92. (don't know if his name has been publicly released yet, so I'll keep mum) There is a familial connection between at least two of the three victims. Not sure how the shooter factors in yet.

ExPatriatePen wrote:

tifosi77 wrote:

ExPatriatePen wrote:Secondly, ISP's don;t typically keep history of browsing, what's interesting though is that if you're logged into Google, most of your web surfing is captured by them.

Tor browser?

Maybe I'm showing an ignorance here, but I don't understand the question.

I know a lot of people that use Tor Browser thinking it provides them with a ring of immunity from anyone finding out their misdeeds...... is it effective?

llipgh2 wrote:Are you sure those aren't the Patriot Riders and not the Hell's Angels? Some of those PR boys are equally as scary looking.

They are Patriot Riders

The images are stunning. Ordinary citizens, many not from Newtown, literally hand-in-hand and arm-in-arm with members of a motorcycle group called the Patriot Guard Riders, along with lines of police and firefighters.

Tor is open source and it's development is consistent with the mission objective of privacy.

So unlike Google or Bing or other proprietary browsers, your surfing activity is never tracked by the browser or through plugins or cookie tracking.

However, if someone were to put an packet capture (sniffer, wireshark, etc...) device and capture traffic emminating from the IP of your router, they could still track your activity.

In practice, that would be tough for most home setups (it would require someone with access to either your network or your ISP's internal network). However, in corporate environments it would be extremely easy for your network guys to track your browsing habits since they have physical access to all of the relevant components,

llipgh2 wrote:Are you sure those aren't the Patriot Riders and not the Hell's Angels? Some of those PR boys are equally as scary looking.

They are Patriot Riders

The images are stunning. Ordinary citizens, many not from Newtown, literally hand-in-hand and arm-in-arm with members of a motorcycle group called the Patriot Guard Riders, along with lines of police and firefighters.

Not sure if this was mentioned, but with all the "gun ban" talks, apparently anything gun related is selling like crazy. My friend here in AZ is an avid shooter. He has at least one handgun and an AR. He said he hasn't been able to find bullets to go target shooting for several weeks since all this happened. Everything is out of stock online. He went to the gun club and their entire stock of guns that they sell was gone (rifles, shotguns, hand guns, etc). Just found this interesting, as I have no commentary one way or another on it. But he was saying you can't find anything anywhere (bullets, guns, parts, etc).

bhaw wrote:Not sure if this was mentioned, but with all the "gun ban" talks, apparently anything gun related is selling like crazy. My friend here in AZ is an avid shooter. He has at least one handgun and an AR. He said he hasn't been able to find bullets to go target shooting for several weeks since all this happened. Everything is out of stock online. He went to the gun club and their entire stock of guns that they sell was gone (rifles, shotguns, hand guns, etc). Just found this interesting, as I have no commentary one way or another on it. But he was saying you can't find anything anywhere (bullets, guns, parts, etc).

Information is leaking out that mass-murderer Adam Lanza had compiled a massive spreadsheet—7 feet long and 4 feet wide—of prior acts of mass murder and attempted murder. It looks like Lanza was trying to make a “score sheet” of acts of murder so that he could be certain that his attack would put him at the top of the list. He may have been planning and researching for years.