They never have been Stanley. The only place the images are embedded is in the mined code.

Transcripts were uploaded to the dev site then the images to the gallery. Images then added to the posts in the normal way and the data set mined, uploaded to the server and then linked into the live site.

If they were to be in the Word or Open Office docs we would have to repeat the exercise with each of the transcripts. We would end up with some very large file to contend with as well.

If we distributed the mined code instead it would have to go on a DVD, it would need some kind of front end launcher writing to launch the project. Running it from DVD would entail any machine thrashing about somewhat to retrieve the data from the disc and it would be rather slow navigating. As the data set references what is essentially a mirror of what is on the live site, any internet enabled machine used with the DVD would probably have problems, particularly with backward navigation links as it would attempt to link to the live site.

We could embed the pictures in the docs but it just means doing it all again.

I have produced new transcripts with the images embedded within the texts as they are on the website version. These can be downloaded as a full package of the project. Transcripts of the original audio tapes are also available as a separate download as are all the images that are included within the threads.

I find it quite amazing that in the two and a half years since we relaunched the LTP and with over 2100 hits on the project. Apart from the initial tittle tattle regarding the odd teething problem, there hasn't been a single additional comment or question posted. Quite bizarre when some of the other threads have posts running into the tens of thousands. Mind you, I suppose it is a rather specialised read and folk would have to register to comment.

The same will happen on Gutenberg or any of the other archive sites. People will just read or download and that's it. Main thing is that it is being spread all over the world and will live in the Cloud!

Stanley Challenger Graham
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net

"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!

Nice of you to comment P. I realise that it's ridiculous but in early 2008 I made the possibly arrogant decision that what I had inside my head was valuable and would be lost when I died so I decided to partially empty my head into the pages of books so that some of my accumulated knowledge could be preserved. This all started earlier when I did the Lancashire Textile Project to preserve some of the memories of the textile workers. I decided that publishing down the normal route was too slow, it takes a year at least to go through the process of publishing by conventional means and this assumes they will accept the book in the first place. I short circuited all this by using Lulu.com and self publishing, or as some call it 'Vanity Publishing'! I included my life story for my kids so that they would know something about me. The ridiculous aspect of this is that I wrote and published 20 books in just over two years.....

I never did any promotion, just gave all my kids a copy of each of them and put copies in the local libraries. News of them is still spreading slowly and there is a small but regular sale.
Thanks to a lot of help from Ian and others on the site we also vastly improved the LTP by embedding the pics in the text and I think we can be sure that at least a few copies have been downloaded. I once had word from a lady in NZ that she was doing her doctorate based on the LTP.... Never heard the outcome but I suspect there are others who have found it useful. Reliable Prime Source research is thin on the ground at times and I like to think that this is what I have preserved. One other small point.... too many academics are so jealous of their output they hedge it with copyright and other restrictions. Everything I have done is free to air. I don't believe you should try to make money from original research.
Thanks again P. Nice to be noticed!!

Stanley Challenger Graham
Stanley's View
scg1936 at talktalk.net

"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!

I've had some odd conversations in libraries when folk have popped in looking for ancestors - particulary in Padiham and Clitheroe - is it worth doing a leaflet and mail out to lancashire libraries as the desk staff and volunteers are not always aware of the LTP and OGFB websites.