CloudOps vs DevOps with Dana Epp

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About Show #606

And the battle is on - CloudOps vs DevOps! Richard debates with Dana Epp about what modern operations looks like. Dana points out that all too often, DevOps is purely a developer-driven initiative for automated continuous delivery pipelines - but there's more to DevOps than that! Meantime there's a group using the CloudOps term as an approach to not bothering with operations at all - let the cloud take care of it! What does the real value of operations looks like today? Do we have to decide between on-premises and cloud? How do we get to be a better team?

Dana Epp is a serial entrepreneur who founded several security-based software companies that have gone public or sold through acquisition. He has a passion for the startup growth mindset and believes that there aren't challenges in every opportunity, but opportunities in every challenge. Everything is impossible until someone does it.
?Dana has spent the last 25 years focusing on software security and has been awarded the recognition and designation by Microsoft as an Enterprise Security MVP for the past fourteen years. These past few years he was also awarded for his Azure experience in Cloud and Datacenter Management, and was appointed as a Microsoft Regional Director.
He travels regularly between his homes in Vancouver, British Columbia and Las Vegas, Nevada. When not working or touring around the world to speak about information security and security engineering, you can find Dana engaging as an Azure Advisor with Microsoft offering suggestions, guidance and recommendations to Microsoft's Azure strategy around technologies like cloud identity and security, containerization and serverless computing.