The Vita isn't going to catch Nintendo and the 3DS... The PS3 is outselling the 360 now because everyone already has a 360. Sony is more or less horrible with hand helds. They fooled me with the PSP...the fooled me with the Vita... I won't fall for it again.

No since 08 around there world wide PS3 sales outdid the 360 it's not because of your reason maybe a bit because of that reason due to the great exclusives but its been doing well for a while. But for handhelds ya they are not as strong but not total failures at it.

I think the problem with the Vita is that Sony is trying to make it into a portable PS3, which sounds cool, but really makes you debate whether you want an experience on a big TV in the comfort of your home, or a smaller but similar experience on the go.

I've heard it said before that the reason why Nintendo has been successful in all of its handhelds is because they design games separately for their handheld, as opposed to trying to port it down. You have some exceptions like the New Super Mario Bros games, but in terms of exclusives, there are reasons why games like Pokemon are still successful and have the power to sell whatever new handheld Nintendo throws out.

I know with my PSP, I much preferred my time with games like LocoRocco and Patchwork Heroes than God of War and Metal Gear. I don't want a console experience on the handheld. I want smaller, quirky titles that I can pick up and go with little time investment.

The PSP was like a portable PS2 and the Vita is like a portable PS3 hehe. I do think Sony does better console wise and Nintendo does much better on the portable side than consoles these days IMO. The GBA was the Super Nintendo reincarnated and the DS/3DS library is filled with tons of gems.

The PSP was like a portable PS2 and the Vita is like a portable PS3 hehe. I do think Sony does better console wise and Nintendo does much better on the portable side than consoles these days IMO. The GBA was the Super Nintendo reincarnated and the DS/3DS library is filled with tons of gems.

Have you seen the up coming line up for the 3DS? I'm fairly sure it could be the only game system on the planet and I'd be content with what they have and what they're bringing out on it.

I know with my PSP, I much preferred my time with games like LocoRocco and Patchwork Heroes than God of War and Metal Gear. I don't want a console experience on the handheld. I want smaller, quirky titles that I can pick up and go with little time investment.

Yeah, this is a big reason why mobile gaming has been much more dominant these past couple of years. People enjoy them because they are smaller, yet much more addictive games.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in the middle of Borderlands 2 right now and I would mind sitting in bed for a few hours and playing that for a whole night, but it just looks and feels better on a big TV and the experience is much more engrossing.

I never gotten a console on launch, but I have to wonder, are they ever worth getting right away?

For me, I kinda feel like its better to take a wait and see approach and hear what others are saying before making a big purchase like that, just in case there are some bugs or something that needs to be worked out.

I got a launch Wii and it was broken, but Nintendo overnighted me a new console, so that wasn't horrible. I got an Xbox 360 on release, and while it did RRoD, it wasn't for 3-4 years. Now I have an old style 360 Elite that runs loud an dI can't tell if its dying on me already or not.

I dunno, I'm just not ready for the nex gen. They honestly have not milked the current gen, there is no need for new systems yet. Yeah, its all money, I'm not stupid, but its pretty annoying none the less. I cannot get excited for these enw consoles already. Coupling that with the idea that used games may become useless is just stupid. Again, I get that its money, but it honestly feels like a cheap move. I hope Sony doesn't pull that stuff with this console, sinc eI figure Xbox is already doing it.

I dunno, I'm just not ready for the nex gen. They honestly have not milked the current gen, there is no need for new systems yet. Yeah, its all money, I'm not stupid, but its pretty annoying none the less. I cannot get excited for these enw consoles already. Coupling that with the idea that used games may become useless is just stupid. Again, I get that its money, but it honestly feels like a cheap move. I hope Sony doesn't pull that stuff with this console, sinc eI figure Xbox is already doing it.

yes they have, especially on the 360. The games have peaked and are currently being held back by the current technology. The developers are more than ready to look forward and can finally do so

I got a launch Wii and it was broken, but Nintendo overnighted me a new console, so that wasn't horrible. I got an Xbox 360 on release, and while it did RRoD, it wasn't for 3-4 years. Now I have an old style 360 Elite that runs loud an dI can't tell if its dying on me already or not.

I dunno, I'm just not ready for the nex gen. They honestly have not milked the current gen, there is no need for new systems yet. Yeah, its all money, I'm not stupid, but its pretty annoying none the less. I cannot get excited for these enw consoles already. Coupling that with the idea that used games may become useless is just stupid. Again, I get that its money, but it honestly feels like a cheap move. I hope Sony doesn't pull that stuff with this console, sinc eI figure Xbox is already doing it.

You may not be, but most developers and gamers are. I know I am. And I was just listening to Adam Sessler say the same thing, (lucky guy is going to NY right now for the Sony thing) Usually past generations never lasted this long. It is time to move on. Things like the Last of Us really shows they are pushing the limits but it will be time very soon. And MS really needs to more so, the DVD format has been limited for a while. But looking at new engines like Unreal 4, I'd say we need to move forward with that. Also as Sweeny talked about what really is needed with new computing power of the next gen is more advanced AI. AI has been stagnant for a long time, most of this generation was more focused on network coding and graphics/physics.

I think the problem with the Vita is that Sony is trying to make it into a portable PS3, which sounds cool, but really makes you debate whether you want an experience on a big TV in the comfort of your home, or a smaller but similar experience on the go.

I've heard it said before that the reason why Nintendo has been successful in all of its handhelds is because they design games separately for their handheld, as opposed to trying to port it down. You have some exceptions like the New Super Mario Bros games, but in terms of exclusives, there are reasons why games like Pokemon are still successful and have the power to sell whatever new handheld Nintendo throws out.

That's how I am with portables. I got a PSP first, and was in love with the graphic level (for a handheld atleast). I ended up mainly playing older games, and using it for music, and surfing the web while playing my PS3. I rarely go on long trips. I'd occasionally play it during breaks at work, but most of the time I played it at home. The console-lite's just didn't do it for me considering I had a PS3 right there.

Nintendo on the other hand has quirky titles I can play in chunks. I can pop in Pokemon, or Scribblenauts, and play for 15 mins, or two hours. GOW on PSP, not so much. I ended up playing Castlevania SoTN, and a Sega collection on my PSP more than anything. Of course the opposite is true for consoles. Nintendo, IMO, doesn't offer the deep, rich full blown console treatment I get with a Playstation.

Vita, and 3DS are in similar states to their predecessors. Vita has very nice tech, but nothing I really want to play on a handheld that I can't get better on a console. While the technologically inferior 3DS has games that just feel right, and hook me considering it's a handheld experience. I think Sony would do themselves a lot of good if they quit treating their handhelds like full blown consoles.

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I think games will pretty much be the same deal as the Vita reveal. A sizzle reveal that shows the likes of MotorStorm, Killzone and new IP without naming anything, Killzone 4 will serve as a tech demo (without being called Killzone 4), and 3rd parties may mention a franchise is coming to PS4 when talking about development.

I got a launch Wii and it was broken, but Nintendo overnighted me a new console, so that wasn't horrible. I got an Xbox 360 on release, and while it did RRoD, it wasn't for 3-4 years. Now I have an old style 360 Elite that runs loud an dI can't tell if its dying on me already or not.

I dunno, I'm just not ready for the nex gen. They honestly have not milked the current gen, there is no need for new systems yet. Yeah, its all money, I'm not stupid, but its pretty annoying none the less. I cannot get excited for these enw consoles already. Coupling that with the idea that used games may become useless is just stupid. Again, I get that its money, but it honestly feels like a cheap move. I hope Sony doesn't pull that stuff with this console, sinc eI figure Xbox is already doing it.

Yeah, I usually like to wait a while before getting a new console/handheld. I had a Wii back in 2007, and I got it mostly because I fell for the motion gimmick. I was a Nintendo fanboy so I trusted them to deliver, but after a while, I started to regret it, especially after I saw my brother's PS3. I finally got a PS3 in 2010 and one of he best things was that there were a bunch of older games that I never had a chance to play because they weren't the kind of games my brother was into. It was great to have so much available at the moment, as opposed to buying at launch and having to wait months/years for more great games to come out.

I would love to have a Vita, but that's the same issue I see my brother having. I know there's some great games out there, but every few months I hear him talk about the next "big" game that he's waiting for, only to hear he's disappointed by it. It's things like that that make me hesistant to jump on right away because I don't wait to commit to something that's just going to be sitting there for months while I wait for something to make it worthwhile, especially since I can't really afford to buy games now the same way I used to.

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That's how I am with portables. I got a PSP first, and was in love with the graphic level (for a handheld atleast). I ended up mainly playing older games, and using it for music, and surfing the web while playing my PS3. I rarely go on long trips. I'd occasionally play it during breaks at work, but most of the time I played it at home. The console-lite's just didn't do it for me considering I had a PS3 right there.

Nintendo on the other hand has quirky titles I can play in chunks. I can pop in Pokemon, or Scribblenauts, and play for 15 mins, or two hours. GOW on PSP, not so much. I ended up playing Castlevania SoTN, and a Sega collection on my PSP more than anything. Of course the opposite is true for consoles. Nintendo, IMO, doesn't offer the deep, rich full blown console treatment I get with a Playstation.

Vita, and 3DS are in similar states to their predecessors. Vita has very nice tech, but nothing I really want to play on a handheld that I can't get better on a console. While the technologically inferior 3DS has games that just feel right, and hook me considering it's a handheld experience. I think Sony would do themselves a lot of good if they quit treating their handhelds like full blown consoles.

Yeah, I think in theory, the idea of a console on the go is awesome, up until you realize what makes the console experience what it is. I definitely think the Vita could be a great handheld on its own, but it still seems like its in between trying to be a handheld and a console. I think a lot of the expectations were that you'd be able to play games like Call of Duty on your PS3 against people playing on the Vita and it would be seamless. I think Need For Speed Most Wanted has been the closest game to copying the console version onto the Vita, but for the most part, Sony hasn't been able to capture the same experience with its games, as was seen with Golden Abyss and AC: Liberation, where they were okay, but not as great as the console versions. I think Sony just needs to understand that the Vita has limits and they need to work within those limits like Nintendo has done with the DS/3DS.

Of course, I still think the saving grace of the Vita will be the PS4 if they reveal that they were made to work with each other.