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Yavimaya Granger Discussion

2 months ago

I also mulled brewing around with surveil and overgrowth with Sidisi. My conclusion was you want more surveil than overgrowth because of the wording of Sidisi's token making ability. Overgrowth should be more payoffs.

At a glance, and imo, you have way too many creatures (and not really the best ones either, don't just add em because they have 1 of the 2 keywords), too many lands, no ramp, and little interaction to slow/mess with opponents.

In my decks I aim for 36 lands, 10 ramp, 10 card advantage, 10 interaction, 3 wraths, which leaves 30 slots for my theme (I emphasize cards that pull double-duty, like Price of Fame would be both CA and interaction).

For lands: I would cut the guild gates for Evolving Wilds, etc. so you can definitely have the mana you need because both will come in tapped anyway. 3-color decks can be tricky to get the right mana when you need it.

For ramp: since overgrowth is a consideration Sakura-Tribe Elder, Dawntreader Elk and Yavimaya Granger all get lands out and go to the graveyard. Sorceries like Farseek, etc. let you get ahead too and I would suggest choosing ones that are CMC<2 because the goal (I assume) is to have Sidisi out on T3.

For interaction: I always try to have a few answers for different types of threats. So Naturalize for enchantments and artifacts, Arcane Denial to counter but also draw a card, Tormod's Crypt to hose a graveyard, Doom Blade to kill creatures, etc. It all depends on what your friends are playing and what you need to answer, so the final ratios will reflect that.

7 months ago

Borderland Ranger fetches a land to hand, not play, so you could put it under Draw instead. There are other options, of course, if you're specifically looking for ramp in this slot, such as Yavimaya Granger.

8 months ago

To everyone mentioned in this comment:

Thank you for your comments, and I'm sorry that it has taken me so long to reply to you. Between managing all my lists and setting up everything to be able to post commander gameplay videos to my YouTube channel, I have been overloaded with work. Thank you for your patience :)

Voxzorz, after coming back to this list, I've decided to not include the majority of spells that ramp up by a single mana, so Recross the Paths is no longer a spell that would fit to this list. (If you would like to see my reasoning for that, simply read the disclaimer at the top of the description of this list. Thanks!)

Gaspacho, thanks, I've removed those group hug cards except for Tempt with Discovery, because you will always get more ramp than each opponent regardless of how many fall into temptation. Also, after coming back to this list, I've decided to not include the majority of spells that ramp up by a single mana, so Spoils of Victory is no longer a spell that would fit to this list. (If you would like to see my reasoning for that, simply read the disclaimer at the top of the description of this list. Thanks!)

Intergalactic_Hegemon, after coming back to this list, I've decided to not include the majority of spells that ramp up by a single mana, so Sea Scryer is no longer a spell that would fit to this list. (If you would like to see my reasoning for that, simply read the disclaimer at the top of the description of this list. Thanks!) As for one-time-use mana acceleration, my reasoning for not including them is this: If you use mana acceleration at the beginning of the game, your board state will be much better than each opponents', which causes opponents to become more afraid of you, which in turn makes it much harder for you to win as your opponents are more likely to be focusing their attention on you instead of on each other; if you use it towards the middle of the game or later, you give up explosiveness to do a smaller version of what these types of ramp spells do. Either way, since the average game is about 11 turns long, it makes no sense to try to replace cards that give a significant permanent boost in mana with ones that give a temporary boost, even if that boost is much higher.

xevecx1, after coming back to this list, I've decided to not include the majority of spells that ramp up by a single mana, so Yavimaya Dryad, Yavimaya Granger, and Dawntreader Elk no longer are spells that would fit to this list. (If you would like to see my reasoning for that, simply read the disclaimer at the top of the description of this list. Thanks!)

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