Everything was going great until I made a bad decision today: hack squats. Over the weekend everything felt great, MCL's were fine, brachialis was fine, everyday aches and pains weren't there. Even when squatting today, no pain. So what do I do? Hack squats =bad decision.

you know if you're ever in pain and want relief now, u can pop all 4 at a time, when i would do wrestling practice, i would do 2 AM, go wrestle, then pop 4 after so i dont even risk feeling the pain after. worked wonders for me.

I think the product has reached full effect. Everyday aches and pains are either gone, or diminished. MCL's were still aching after my stupid hack squat experiment yesterday so after the morning meal I popped 4 and BOOM...gone.

I can see joint help becoming a staple for me easily, more effective than glucosamine and msm. The par actin is the sleeper in joint help, it whacked my MCL pain yesterday...

I think the product has reached full effect. Everyday aches and pains are either gone, or diminished. MCL's were still aching after my stupid hack squat experiment yesterday so after the morning meal I popped 4 and BOOM...gone.

I can see joint help becoming a staple for me easily, more effective than glucosamine and msm. The par actin is the sleeper in joint help, it whacked my MCL pain yesterday...

Indeed it is. I think most people just see it as another cissus type product when cissus really isn't why you want to take it.

I tried joint help for the first time and toke 4 caps directly, and when i was going to start train maybe around 90min after taking joint help my shoulder pain and my wrist pain that I have were almost non existing. amazing actually, and I was training shoulders. I also tried condense pre workout and Compete during my workout and I had some sick energy/focus, the pump was very good, did not wanted to leave the gym.
the only side effect I had was I were very speeded up, never felt that kind of speeded up feeling before and then the only stim that was in the products i toke was coffein and trimetylglycine. It was like I had taken a lot more then just 200mg coffein wich is the amount in condense in one serving.

Do you think that joint help maybe intesifed the stimulant (coffein/trimetylglycine) from condense, and made me very speeded up? I also drank a cup of coffee with a meal (rice cakes and honey) 30min efter taking joint help.

Maybe I should take 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps pre workout instead so that the stimulant effect joint help can have is less stronger? The only thing is that I dont eat in the morning (only coffee), doing IF and I break my fast at the afternoon.

I tried joint help for the first time and toke 4 caps directly, and when i was going to start train maybe around 90min after taking joint help my shoulder pain and my wrist pain that I have were almost non existing. amazing actually, and I was training shoulders. I also tried condense pre workout and Compete during my workout and I had some sick energy/focus, the pump was very good, did not wanted to leave the gym.
the only side effect I had was I were very speeded up, never felt that kind of speeded up feeling before and then the only stim that was in the products i toke was coffein and trimetylglycine. It was like I had taken a lot more then just 200mg coffein wich is the amount in condense in one serving.

Do you think that joint help maybe intesifed the stimulant (coffein/trimetylglycine) from condense, and made me very speeded up? I also drank a cup of coffee with a meal (rice cakes and honey) 30min efter taking joint help.

Maybe I should take 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps pre workout instead so that the stimulant effect joint help can have is less stronger? The only thing is that I dont eat in the morning (only coffee), doing IF and I break my fast at the afternoon.