Obama got his Dem. base to the polls. Romney did not.
He was never gonna get the Black vote. Period. Christian blacks have a hard time with Mormonism.
Ditto Christian Hispanics. True, they have not been properly courted by Repubs. but, C’mon man! their turnout should not have been as vital as many have said.
Finally, as I keep saying, there was a decided lack of enthusiasm for our candidate among the majority Caucasian constituency. He did just a little bit better than McCain?? Now there’s a distinction without distinction. Especially given 4 years of a “Progressive” Presidency.
I don’t like it. You don’t like it. But there continues to be a prejudice against Mormons in this country, especially if they can be vilified as “rich” Mormons.
I’m going to continue to look for evidence contrary to my thesis, but when the conservative libertarian center-right of this country fails to elect a good man and politician in the face of creeping socialism, I smell a dead rat somewhere behind a wall.
I said last tear America wouldn’t elect a Mormon as President, and they didn’t.

Randy

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Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:21:36 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=231489#comment-6531763[...] polls that a Romney victory was in the cards. But consider that although Mitt Romney’s Get-Out-the-Vote software failed, he still fell short by only 334,000 votes in the key battleground states of [...]
]]>By: John_Ghttp://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/23/gop-turnout-myths-and-reality/comment-page-3/#comment-6531607
Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:15:04 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=231489#comment-6531607“…That doesn’t mean pandering, but…” – Ed M.

That’s exactly what you mean – pandering.

I’m trying to think of a noteworthy Republican pundit and/or Politician who hasn’t now screached “abandon all principles so we can win elections!”

RNC 2016 election slogan “We’re Socialists too!”

My advice to the RNC to get higher Republican turnout: Quit running RINOs.

]]>By: John_Ghttp://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/23/gop-turnout-myths-and-reality/comment-page-3/#comment-6531515
Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:21:25 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=231489#comment-6531515We can sit there and brain storm all day long about why the Republicans lost, whether they didn’t get in to Latino areas and what not (as if that mattered, statistically they voted the same as they’ve done since Reagan and he did the first amnesty). The problem was simply this: Romney. He governed as a liberal – just look at his stances on guns, abortion, gays and gay propaganda in grade schools, health care, etc, etc, etc.

Some people have principles and believe that actions speak louder than words. If the RNC would have supported a good candidate (instead of a RINO) Republicans and conservatives would have turned out.

No. The process that ended that started with the election of 1860 and ended at Appomattox Courthouse in 1865. Until the GOP admits that it is at primary fault for the FedGov being the centralized, out of control mess it is, nothing will be solved. Frankly, I think it is far too late save the country.

gerrym51 on November 25, 2012 at 10:12 PM
And Democrat-loyal blacks are probably right after.

Demographic shift, people.

MelonCollie on November 25, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Not at all. The black population in this country has been stagnant for years, and the hispanic population is growing much more slowly than predicted. The future of America belongs to those of Asian heritage, hispanics only if they continue to immigrate in large numbers.

1.)Expanded Population – with identical enthusiasm, an expanded voting-age population should mean that Romney’s percentage of the vote should have increased proportionally along with the population

expanded voting age population had more potential Obama voters than Romney voters.

hispanics have the highest birth rates.Its a fact-don’t blame me.

]]>By: gerrym51http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/23/gop-turnout-myths-and-reality/comment-page-3/#comment-6531138
Mon, 26 Nov 2012 03:09:15 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=231489#comment-6531138Mitt, was my man and I think he would have made a great president.

In other words, there are enough takers/moochers now to ensure that the Dems will stay in power from here on out. Conservatism/Libertarianism is dying, the GOP is dead and the next major opposition party in the US will be to the left of the Dems. Obama has succeeded; we are moving towards 3rd world status. Anyone who stays here instead of seeking higher ground is just being stubborn.

Kakalak Pundit on November 25, 2012 at 9:42 AM

With a very deep sigh, I agree with you. Can you point me to this higher ground that you speak of?

I am not a Republican. I do not care about the outcome of the Republican party. I am a conservative. Since the Republican party turned its back on my ideology, they have nothing to compel me to help them. I gave them one last hurrah by voting against Obama and his 1.6 billion rounds of ammo DHS which I think is lined up for use against planned rioting.

Hot Air used to be a movement conservative web site. It is not here to push Republican ideas, but conservative ones.

]]>By: wholefoodsrepublicanhttp://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/23/gop-turnout-myths-and-reality/comment-page-3/#comment-6530568
Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:13:59 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=231489#comment-6530568what’s the game plan when the democrats run a black on every presidential ticket from now onto the end?

what’s the game plan for winning over the young, the asians, and the latinos??

They may not ALL do what is right. Then the burden shifts to community and charity. Those children who do not do what they should do can be easily identified by the community and ostracized for their failure, and shamed. The kind that has consequences. Nice job you HAD there, but we really no longer have need of services of a dead beat…

The way it was for tens of thousands of years.

]]>By: Kakalak Pundithttp://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/23/gop-turnout-myths-and-reality/comment-page-3/#comment-6530371
Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:48:34 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=231489#comment-6530371Minorities aren’t liberal, they Hague been told since birth that their existence entitles them to free scraps, and that if they ever try to earn their own fresh pieces they are sellouts. And they will soon needed the majority. This country is dying.
]]>By: Kakalak Pundithttp://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/23/gop-turnout-myths-and-reality/comment-page-3/#comment-6530362
Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:42:01 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=231489#comment-6530362In other words, there are enough takers/moochers now to ensure that the Dems will stay in power from here on out. Conservatism/Libertarianism is dying, the GOP is dead and the next major opposition party in the US will be to the left of the Dems. Obama has succeeded; we are moving towards 3rd world status. Anyone who stays here instead of seeking higher ground is just being stubborn.
]]>By: kingsjesterhttp://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/23/gop-turnout-myths-and-reality/comment-page-3/#comment-6530338
Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:20:38 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=231489#comment-6530338My take.
]]>By: kregghttp://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/23/gop-turnout-myths-and-reality/comment-page-3/#comment-6530298
Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:27:41 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=231489#comment-6530298We can talk about why Romney lost until we die. But, stating that one thing was the tipping point is ludicrous. His loss was like a dominoes falling in both directions, only before they finish a bratty kid comes along and kicks them. That bratty kid was the misinformed voter who went to the booth and said, “gee I just don’t know … I’m staying with Obama.”
In uncertain times the majority of the people fear change. That’s the reason why a stupid slogan of Hope & Change was changed to Forward. It lured in the dumb masses.

“Far away across the field
The tolling of the iron bell
draws the faithful to their knees
with a softly spoken magic spell.” Waters

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Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:55:10 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=231489#comment-6530273What said it all for me was visiting here in California and the gardener’s van pulled out outside the neighbor’s house, with dudes who look illegal, or one step removed, and speaking Spanish (yeah, I know I just started a flame war) – and it’s plastered with 0bama/Biden stickers.

To me it’s looking like a straight takeover of the nation by folks who vote skin color/ anti-white.

Considering that Mexico and most African nations are not successful, this experiment in thro whitey out the driver’s seat will be interesting.

Another controversial wording, I know. But it’s supposedly a free country, and I’m using the 1st Amendment and don’t mean anything bad – just discussing the huge race-based vote that seems to have put 0bama in office – that is, unless the election was electronically stolen, which I cannot rule out, given the utter corruption of the Democrats.

You just about nailed it. The only thing I would add to what you said is that Reagan believed in the party’s platform. Romney didn’t. Of all the factors in Romney’s loss to Obama, I think that is the most important one.

gryphon202 on November 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Which explains why conservatives stayed home and Romney lost. GOP GOTV was left to chance. The results speak for themselves.

]]>By: RutRohhttp://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/23/gop-turnout-myths-and-reality/comment-page-3/#comment-6530252
Sun, 25 Nov 2012 08:49:25 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=231489#comment-6530252The battle has been lost in the schools. K-12 we are completely not in play. Freedom is in trouble. Big trouble.
]]>By: HellCathttp://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/23/gop-turnout-myths-and-reality/comment-page-3/#comment-6530118
Sun, 25 Nov 2012 04:51:07 +0000http://hotair.com/?p=231489#comment-6530118

The welfare queen, the unemployed chump, the disabled person, the social security recipient, they are all illegitimate concerns for the government. They can and should all be cared for by Family and Friends as well as Community and Charities.
astonerii on November 23, 2012 at 5:16 PM

I thought Dems were the only ones who believed in unrealistic, utopian dreams. “Could’ve, Should’ve, Would’ve” versus what family and friends will actually do and give to each other can be worlds apart. Most of us don’t even get decent Christmas presents.

Anyway, the kids are voting for Obama. They voted to pay into social security. Let them. Some of their money is going to needy elders – but they also need to learn that much of the money is going to the same 1% they protest against and the program will be bankrupt when the young and dumb become old.

The difficulty with these programs is not that they help needy elders who cannot or do not have family and friends to help them. The problem is some of social security is being spent to buy an extra luxury condo in a Florida gated community. The young need to take off the blinders of the Guy Fawkes mask and have an adult conversation about reform.

Obama promised he could grow jobs by spending money. He promised to buy jobs by taking money from rich people. To prove his sincerity, he bought everyone a phone

Except, Obama only bought his low income base phones. He didn’t really prove to the middle that he could grow jobs, because the middle came up short on jobs

On the other hand, Romney didn’t prove to the satisfaction of the middle that he could squirt out jobs either.

Obama had to get out his regulars, and he used the Treasury to do it
Romney got his regulars courtesy of Obama’s rotten presidency

School vouchers wouldn’t have helped. Romney promised school choice. He needed less promises and more proof. Many of his surrogates were stuck on promises too.

Romney couldn’t just say ‘trust me’ because he had no real relationship with the public. That was proven by his rapid increase in polls after the debates, when people got to see him, basically for the first time.

But the debates were spent more shutting down Obama. Obama’s attack barrage was to protect himself from his own web of lies. However, it helped keep Romney from proving his own ideas

Somewhere else, even if it was better ads, Romney needed to sell the idea, and not the promise. His ad campaign was promise based.

I don’t blame Romney. They had him making speeches to the converted, and tv covered crowd scenes, not what he said. Get out the vote was not tight. Ads were promise based.

Rush always says we win on ideas. Look up famous Reagan quotes. They are ideas, an entire philosophy