Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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<quoted text>Evolution does not need emotions. It is not need love, missing, hurting. It is about a species surviving, going on, adapting, survival of the fittest and emotions would be considered a weakness in survival.

The "fittest" species do require emotions, and the most beneficial are those you equate to humanity, as we have seen they exist in all the most successful species beyond that of viruses and bacteria.

<quoted text>Go to any church on Christmas and Easter and then tell me which is celebrated more.Christmas is not celebrated more, it is just more participate in it because even the non-believers, the evolution believers such as yourself give gifts because man has became about material things and personal possessions more than anything.How does it make sense to you that you believe God is a myth, evolution is real but you participate in gift giving on his birthday and you do things on Easter with family and friends.Those two days and celebrations should not be celebrated by non-believers and evolutionists because those two days do not going along with what you believe in.Does Britain celebrate the 4th of July because we whipped them and took our country? Nope they don't so why do you celebrate two days that you do not believe in and should mean nothing to you?

The churches are fuller and happier at Christmas. They have to have extra services. Seriously, you are supposed to celebrate Easter more, but it does not seem that anyone does.

You are simply lying to yourself if you think it is the other way around.

Let's look at the past when Christianity did pretty much rule America. Look at popular culture in the 40's and the 50's of last century. Even then Christmas ruled as far as holidays go.

<quoted text>Easter is a pagan holiday that your religion just stole. It's been about rebirth and beginning anew a lot longer than your myths have existed.

So I guess you think two things can't happen on the same day.

Funny for I know many things that are celebrated on the same day as others. I guess if your birthday is on the same day as someone older than you then you are just really celebrating their birthday because they were celebrating on that day before you were.

<quoted text>You have all the talking points memorized! You should have no problem telling all that to God when you have to give an account of how you lived life believing you were a monkey. Trouble is you aren't! And thinking like one will not help you then either.

No. But I do know a fair amount of science.

And now the stupid threats come out.

Sorry, but even your head Christian said that I am going to heaven. He does not believe in "Mafia Don" God. Do you?

And once again you are being derogatory to your ancestors. Isn't that also against one of your rules?

Why do Christians think that it is okay to lie for Jesus and now not to honor thy mother and father for Jesus.

If you want to see a religious hypocrite you only have to look for a foolish creationist.

<quoted text>I'll live by my Faith over your reality any day under any circumstance. I hope you get in touch with your spiritual life before it is too late. You may be running out of chances and time.In other words, I'd rather be an uneducated Christian than what the Bible calls an educated fool any day!Get over yourself, man! Get out and smell some roses!

Unfortunately you are an uneducated fool. You combined the worst of both.

And please enough with the threats. I don't believe in your "Mafia Don" god, nor does the top Christian.

How seriously would you take me if I threatened you with the Flying Spaghetti Monster's righteous wrath?

<quoted text>I'll live by my Faith over your reality any day under any circumstance. I hope you get in touch with your spiritual life before it is too late. You may be running out of chances and time.In other words, I'd rather be an uneducated Christian than what the Bible calls an educated fool any day!Get over yourself, man! Get out and smell some roses!

So you never get medical attention for anything. Never eat food from a grocer. You never use a computer ... oh wait ... seems you have lost your "faith."

<quoted text>So I guess you think two things can't happen on the same day.Funny for I know many things that are celebrated on the same day as others. I guess if your birthday is on the same day as someone older than you then you are just really celebrating their birthday because they were celebrating on that day before you were.

Your myth was just a myth, yes, many myths "happen" on the same day, that does not change the fact that they are myths.

<quoted text>So I guess you think two things can't happen on the same day.Funny for I know many things that are celebrated on the same day as others. I guess if your birthday is on the same day as someone older than you then you are just really celebrating their birthday because they were celebrating on that day before you were.

Kitten Koder is correct. Easter was another stolen holiday of the early Christians.

Do you really think Jesus was born anywhere near December 25? The date was chosen since it was so close to Saturnalia, it had nothing to do with the actual date which was long lost.

<quoted text>The churches are fuller and happier at Christmas. They have to have extra services. Seriously, you are supposed to celebrate Easter more, but it does not seem that anyone does.You are simply lying to yourself if you think it is the other way around.Let's look at the past when Christianity did pretty much rule America. Look at popular culture in the 40's and the 50's of last century. Even then Christmas ruled as far as holidays go.

Again I stated Christmas is participated in more for several reasons. For the gifts. Even adults get gifts. It is near the end of the year/start of the year which is another holiday so many places give/people take vacation usually for a week, even schools as a year end break, at that time. So more travel to see family since they have a week or more off and participate in it.

Easter is a 3 day weekend so not as many travel and get together.

That all is simple logic and all about time to spare.

As far as being celebrated for religious reasons or beliefs in Jesus. Easter is celebrated more for those reasons than Christmas.

<quoted text>Again I stated Christmas is participated in more for several reasons. For the gifts. Even adults get gifts. It is near the end of the year/start of the year which is another holiday so many places give/people take vacation usually for a week, even schools as a year end break, at that time. So more travel to see family since they have a week or more off and participate in it.Easter is a 3 day weekend so not as many travel and get together.That all is simple logic and all about time to spare.As far as being celebrated for religious reasons or beliefs in Jesus. Easter is celebrated more for those reasons than Christmas.

<quoted text>Again I stated Christmas is participated in more for several reasons. For the gifts. Even adults get gifts. It is near the end of the year/start of the year which is another holiday so many places give/people take vacation usually for a week, even schools as a year end break, at that time. So more travel to see family since they have a week or more off and participate in it.Easter is a 3 day weekend so not as many travel and get together.That all is simple logic and all about time to spare.As far as being celebrated for religious reasons or beliefs in Jesus. Easter is celebrated more for those reasons than Christmas.

<quoted text>So you never get medical attention for anything. Never eat food from a grocer. You never use a computer ... oh wait ... seems you have lost your "faith."

Science brought us medicine. Science brought us the evolution theory. Evolution did not bring us science.

How many hospitals around the world offer cheap to near free help for kids/people. There are many that do it in the faith of Jesus and our Lord. There are none "0" that do it in the believe of evolution.

<quoted text>The "fittest" species do require emotions, and the most beneficial are those you equate to humanity, as we have seen they exist in all the most successful species beyond that of viruses and bacteria.

No, you are very incorrect in your assertion that all "successful" species share the same emotions.I'm sure you will say you did not say share ALL THE SAME emotions, but that is what you implied.I can't take time to explain it to you right now, but I have a feeling you already know why you are so wrong in your implications.

I really and sincerely feel sorry for some of you folks. Your determination to ridicule people and things of faith and of God simply because you have chosen another way of thinking borders on pathetic. We do not ask you to prove anything and we do not disrespect your choice. Grow up and give us the same consideration.

Frankly, I don't give a monkey what you think of me, nor do I care what you believe about anything!

When you finally succeed in taking faith and God out of our public places, you will rightfully be the ones left to live with that choice. I

<quoted text>Kitten Koder is correct. Easter was another stolen holiday of the early Christians.Do you really think Jesus was born anywhere near December 25? The date was chosen since it was so close to Saturnalia, it had nothing to do with the actual date which was long lost.

Actually it is because of the Winter Solstice more than anything else.Just as spring and Easter is the spring equinox.Until the 325 Council of Nicea Easter was celebrated on the Sunday after the first full moon following the vernal equinox.

Makes you wonder why but when you look at the traditional reasons for celebration on these dates , it seems the Jesus tale was fashioned to fit with them.

<quoted text>Science brought us medicine. Science brought us the evolution theory. Evolution did not bring us science.How many hospitals around the world offer cheap to near free help for kids/people. There are many that do it in the faith of Jesus and our Lord. There are none "0" that do it in the believe of evolution.

<quoted text>So, long story short, Christmas is celebrated more.At any rate let's get back to evolution.Why don't you believe the theory of evolution?Why do you use the benefits of the theory of evolution every day?

Long story short? Not that easy. Non-believers/evolutionists participate in Christmas that has no meaning to them. To them it is all about the material things. So they can not be added in the percentage that celebrate it for Jesus.

Mans greed and desire for material things is for the most part the biggest trouble of the world today. More people believe in living good (high on the hog) more than they believe in living good(doing right and helping others).

In the last several 100's of years the world has became corrupt over the desire of more more more no matter who or what it hurts or destroys.

<quoted text>Actually it is because of the Winter Solstice more than anything else.Just as spring and Easter is the spring equinox.Until the 325 Council of Nicea Easter was celebrated on the Sunday after the first full moon following the vernal equinox.Makes you wonder why but when you look at the traditional reasons for celebration on these dates , it seems the Jesus tale was fashioned to fit with them.

That's ture, and of course that was why Saturnalia was held at that time.

<quoted text>Science brought us medicine. Science brought us the evolution theory. Evolution did not bring us science.How many hospitals around the world offer cheap to near free help for kids/people. There are many that do it in the faith of Jesus and our Lord. There are none "0" that do it in the believe of evolution.

Christianity has not cornered the market on humanitarian reasoning.But to be fair, you have to admit evolution does not collect tithes or have a tax free status either...hmm But regardless of faith , helping people out is a human nature.

<quoted text>Long story short? Not that easy. Non-believers/evolutionists participate in Christmas that has no meaning to them. To them it is all about the material things. So they can not be added in the percentage that celebrate it for Jesus.Mans greed and desire for material things is for the most part the biggest trouble of the world today. More people believe in living good (high on the hog) more than they believe in living good(doing right and helping others).In the last several 100's of years the world has became corrupt over the desire of more more more no matter who or what it hurts or destroys.

Nope, that does not fly.

Even without nonbelievers and Christians only Christmas is still by far the biggest holiday of the year. Easter may be behind even Halloween, which started out as a religious holiday.

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