West- 2 in Wisconsin, 2 in Chicago, and 2 in West IndianaEast- 1 in East Indiana, 1 in West Ohio, 2 in East Ohio, and 2 in Detroit

I like it but what about WIU instead of Chicago St since Chicago St is a somewhat disreputable program? The other thing I like about the Horizon preemptively expanding is that if the MVC ever comes back after Valpo and Loyola they'll still have 10 members.

For Divisions I might swap IUPUI with IPFW since IUPUI is close to Wright St and the Horzon is going to want to utilize travel partners.

Looks like Horizon commish nailed it. He said s*** was going down before the final four and he was right. Not surprised the MVC wanted to get into Chicago. I wonder if we should read anything into the fact that they took a public over a private? I doubt it but who knows.

As for the Horizon, gotta think they want to get back to 10 at the very least. IUPUI would replace Butler nicely. I would like to see them give Robert Morris some consideration as well. IUPFW and W. Illinois should only be options if they lose more in my opinion.

Looks like Horizon commish nailed it. He said s*** was going down before the final four and he was right. Not surprised the MVC wanted to get into Chicago. I wonder if we should read anything into the fact that they took a public over a private? I doubt it but who knows.

As for the Horizon, gotta think they want to get back to 10 at the very least. IUPUI would replace Butler nicely. I would like to see them give Robert Morris some consideration as well. IUPFW and W. Illinois should only be options if they lose more in my opinion.

Personally I think Robert Morris in the Horizon would be awesome but the Colonials have a football problem--they don't have anywhere to put their football team if they go to the Horizon. I don't see them making any conference moves until the CAA situation shakes out and they know what the FCS conferences look like first.

Personally I think Robert Morris in the Horizon would be awesome but the Colonials have a football problem--they don't have anywhere to put their football team if they go to the Horizon.

Same place Monmouth puts theirs. I doubt the NEC is going to say "you can't play football with us." Because there's so many various scholarship levels within FCS football, that you want to play as many teams as possible with the same number of schollies you do.

They don't WANT Monmouth and Robert Morris being forced into adding 23 more scholarships by joining the CAA. That's hurts the NEC.

There's various levels of scholarships in FCS, ranging from 63 to 0. If you're not at 63, kicking someone out of your league for football only is just about the worst idea possible. You're daring them to increase their scholarship levels to join a new football league, which makes them better than you.

There's various levels of scholarships in FCS, ranging from 63 to 0. If you're not at 63, kicking someone out of your league for football only is just about the worst idea possible. You're daring them to increase their scholarship levels to join a new football league, which makes them better than you.

Think about what the Patriot did to Fordham...or rather, what Fordham let the Patriot do to them.

It's deeper than sports. Look on the map where these schools are. This is good old parochial snobbery.

Fox Sports KC article(previously posted in another thread)with comments from MVC Commish who says no league expansion votes are planned until later this month at the earliest.Article says MVC officials have denounced recent UIC invite rumors as "conjecture".Link at http://www.foxsportskansascity.com/stor ... eedID=5089

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