I don't believe that diplomatic is including ZPZ in the question......just the real deal. So, 46 is the number. Or was.....I'm 44 and saw Frank as far back as 1980. So there's got to be younger out there.

_________________"Why do people say "Grow some balls"? Balls are weak and sensitive! If you really wanna get tough, grow a vagina! Those things take a pounding"! -- Betty White

I thought FZ was being Ed Sanders, when his kids were infants.At least he wasn't being Paul Reubens!

Reubens and the (Gism) Jets?

I think you get the point. Frank was always being Frank and his kids got to see his process at a very early age. Be it in the house or at the shows the kids were around. There is even films with the kids in the background with Frank at work and we all know Frank was working just about all the time. You can see Frank's ethic has rubbed off on DZ. DZs work ethic seems quite intense but fortunately I think DZ may have a little time budgeted on rare occasions where he has some quality time for his family and a little golf.

DZ talks of being at shows as a young kid being right by the amps or pa. Not sure but it may be mentioned in the QuAUDIOPHILIAc liner notes.

_________________Trendmonger's Moment Of Clarity

FZ "Read It And Weep"
April 17,1981

Frank Zappa left the ZFT in Control of his Vaults and Artistic rights.
We the fans are not in control. We have a choice to use our eyes and ears or read it and weep.

Its clear Franks kids (possibly his nieces and nephews) are the youngest so far - Diva must be 28 or 29 by now, and can claim to have seen FZ live.

But who amongst the general public was taken to an FZ gig 20 or more years ago. I would be surprised if there is anyone who was 10 years or less in 1988.

This 20th anniversary of FZ last being seen live thing has come as a bit of a shock to me.

Slime has posted the Life magazine Art Kane photo - that was 1968, so those kids are in their early '40s. They can claim (according to Roy E) that they micurated on the Mothers live. That must be the first and only time.

I believe this photo is from one of the Feb 88' Beacon Theater shows where some asshole of a fan dropped a beer on the mixing console and the entire PA system went out. I am not a Chicago Cubs fan but this one ranks up there with the asshole fan awards.

Some other first awards go to whoever that guy was that threw Frank off the stage and Mark Chapman for his actions on 12/08/80. ya really have to wonder if some people are born with a disposition to be an asshole or just forget about social hygiene. Hey don't get me wrong Killing John Lennon was a bit more than a social social hygiene problem but I think you get the point.

Oh I'm sorry it was not me it was the Ball.Oh I'm sorry it was not me it was the Beer.Oh I'm sorry it was not me Frank was making eyes at my girlfriend.Oh I'm sorry it was not me it was the CIA.Oh ... Vafancullo, Italy just won the world cup

Stay tuned up next in the asshole Olympics is a Jesus freak who chops up people with an ax on the Staten Island Ferry.

_________________Trendmonger's Moment Of Clarity

FZ "Read It And Weep"
April 17,1981

Frank Zappa left the ZFT in Control of his Vaults and Artistic rights.
We the fans are not in control. We have a choice to use our eyes and ears or read it and weep.

I believe this photo is from one of the Feb 88' Beacon Theater shows where some asshole of a fan dropped a beer on the mixing console and the entire PA system went out. I am not a Chicago Cubs fan but this one ranks up there with the asshole fan awards.

Some other first awards go to whoever that guy was that threw Frank off the stage and Mark Chapman for his actions on 12/08/80. ya really have to wonder if some people are born with a disposition to be an asshole or just forget about social hygiene. Hey don't get me wrong Killing John Lennon was a bit more than a social social hygiene problem but I think you get the point.

Oh I'm sorry it was not me it was the Ball.Oh I'm sorry it was not me it was the Beer.Oh I'm sorry it was not me Frank was making eyes at my girlfriend.Oh I'm sorry it was not me it was the CIA.Oh ... Vafancullo, Italy just won the world cup

Stay tuned up next in the asshole Olympics is a Jesus freak who chops up people with an ax on the Staten Island Ferry.

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