You're right, my omission. There is a difference between a judogi and a jiujitsugi. The vanity of the jiujitsudoka requires a tailored designer Judogi instead of a Judogi bound by a rule set, in addition to the patches. These two changes together turn it into a jiujitsugi.

Last edited by Tom Kagan; 3/30/2007 8:49pm at .

Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

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The vanity of the jiujitsudoka requires a tailored designer Judogi instead of a Judogi bound by a rule set, in addition to the patches. These two changes together turn it into a jiujitsugi.

I was taught that the jiu-jitsu gi is tapered at the sleeves and ankles to make it more difficult to get your thumb or four fingers into them. The top is shorter in length than the Judo gi to limit the effectiveness of the, wrap his own collar around his arm/shoulder, series of techniques.

I do know that a gi made for Judo is easier to take grab onto because of the wider openings at sleeves and pants.

I was taught that the jiu-jitsu gi is tapered at the sleeves and ankles to make it more difficult to get your thumb or four fingers into them. The top is shorter in length than the Judo gi to limit the effectiveness of the, wrap his own collar around his arm/shoulder, series of techniques.

I do know that a gi made for Judo is easier to take grab onto because of the wider openings at sleeves and pants.

And, it looks absolutely fabulous.

If you don't mind, I'd like to continue to substitute my own reality for this situation. I would much prefer to think it's all a vanity issue rather than the real reason these type of shenanigans caused annoying Judogi rules to be implemented in the first place: creating a Judogi harder to use against the wearer in order to gain an artificial edge in Judo competition.

Out of curiosity, has NAGA or other competition bodies standardized their jiujitsugi rules yet?

Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

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SAMBO will focus more on an aggressive takedown and top game strategy. Transitions from takedowns to immediate leglocks are fairly common. Guardwork is present, but not quite the focus that it is in BJJ. Regaining the top position tends to be preferred, although attacks from the bottom do happen.

SAMBO will focus more on an aggressive takedown and top game strategy. Transitions from takedowns to immediate leglocks are fairly common. Guardwork is present, but not quite the focus that it is in BJJ. Regaining the top position tends to be preferred, although attacks from the bottom do happen.

How is that different from BJJ? In fact, that's one gameplan of many BJJ fighters (except for takedowns to immediate leglocks, which don't seem that common but not unheard of). If anything, as a group BJJ fighters tend to have a exhibit a large range of strategies. There's a lot of individualism in BJJ.

How is that different from BJJ? In fact, that's one gameplan of many BJJ fighters (except for takedowns to immediate leglocks, which don't seem that common but not unheard of). If anything, as a group BJJ fighters tend to have a exhibit a large range of strategies. There's a lot of individualism in BJJ.

I think this is something a lot of "outsiders" never realize about BJJ. A simple example of this could be Jeff Monson and Pe de Pano. Monson's more about aggressive takedowns and taking top position, whereas Pe de Pano has an extremely tight guard game. An obvious and boring example is Eddie Bravo. Eduardo Telles paid his dues by taking the BJJ turtle game to a level most BJJ players will never touch. Or how about Marcelo "Take the Back" Garcia? Sure, these guys are all strong at just about everything, but they all have certain things that they've put their signatures on.

There's so much room for individuality in BJJ that I'm kind of surprised it's not turning into a total hippie lovefest.

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True, no doubt. But watch a SAMBO match, and watch a BJJ match. In general SAMBO players spend more time working on takedowns than the average BJJ practicioner. They tend to be a bit better at it. It tends to show in the matches. BJJ practitioners tend to be a bit better working off there backs with more guard variation, and the derivative sweeps and submissions.

With all that being said, there are some BJJ people who are damn good at takedowns and top game, and there are some SAMBO people that are damn good off their backs. But we're talking generalities here.