BMW should just drop the ///M all together, they got beat by a $#@!ing Camaro, Mustang and Jaguar LMAO

Now's the part where all you BMW fan boys start bringing up 1000hp turbo E46's LOL......BMW should change their slogan from "The Ultimate Driving Machine" to "Living In The Past" or "Basking In Our Past Glory"

It really is amazing. Based on everything so far seen, I would have never guessed that the ZL1 would have been at the top. Beating a Black Series? I would have never believed it. Especially after seeing it get smoked in roll racing by tons of other cars less powerful...

Shocking to be honest. Put a lot of cars to shame - although it's hard for each driver to be consistent in every car, so who knows what the true variances are.

Wait till the 2015 Mustang comes out. It's supposed to finally have independant rear suspension. So it'll be faster straight line (as always) than the Camaro and now handle better. I'm betting that it's going to be badass.

BMW should just drop the ///M all together, they got beat by a $#@!ing Camaro, Mustang and Jaguar LMAO

Now's the part where all you BMW fan boys start bringing up 1000hp turbo E46's LOL......BMW should change their slogan from "The Ultimate Driving Machine" to "Living In The Past" or "Basking In Our Past Glory"

...at least one of their engines won Daytona this weekend.

They also won ALMS two years in a row and it takes a $100k+ Mercedes with far more power to beat the M3 around the track because the standard C63 can't...

It really is amazing. Based on everything so far seen, I would have never guessed that the ZL1 would have been at the top. Beating a Black Series? I would have never believed it. Especially after seeing it get smoked in roll racing by tons of other cars less powerful...

Shocking to be honest. Put a lot of cars to shame - although it's hard for each driver to be consistent in every car, so who knows what the true variances are.

The ZL1 is an impressive car, probably best bang for your buck on the market. The regualr SS Camaro was no slouch either. It beat the M5 and M5 as well.

They also won ALMS two years in a row and it takes a $100k+ Mercedes with far more power to beat the M3 around the track because the standard C63 can't...

AMG is getting better but let's not get carried away.

....excuses, excuses let me know when any of the current and available BMW's on the market can touch anything the AMG has out there right now by any guys on this forum. BMW's are untuneable, does any tuner have an M5 that can compete with the latest E63 5.5tt offereing from renntech or Weistec?

AMG keeps introducing cars with greater technology and more HP while BMW waters down their M cars. I can not wait to see a head to head of a 2014 E63 S vs an M5....somebody better give BMW engineers the toll free number to the rape crisis line.

....excuses, excuses let me know when any of the current and available BMW's on the market can touch anything the AMG has out there right now by any guys on this forum. BMW's are untuneable, does any tuner have an M5 that can compete with the latest E63 5.5tt offereing from renntech or Weistec?

AMG keeps introducing cars with greater technology and more HP while BMW waters down their M cars. I can not wait to see a head to head of a 2014 E63 S vs an M5....somebody better give BMW engineers the toll free number to the rape crisis line.

....excuses, excuses let me know when any of the current and available BMW's on the market can touch anything the AMG has out there right now by any guys on this forum. BMW's are untuneable, does any tuner have an M5 that can compete with the latest E63 5.5tt offereing from renntech or Weistec?

AMG keeps introducing cars with greater technology and more HP while BMW waters down their M cars. I can not wait to see a head to head of a 2014 E63 S vs an M5....somebody better give BMW engineers the toll free number to the rape crisis line.

I think BMW has fallen off but the new M5/M6 are superior to cars they actually compete against as in the E63/CLS63. Mercedes doesn't even have an M6 competitor.