Sidepodcast Daily

Daily: 30th December 2008

With Honda Racing seemingly back in the Classified Ads, the news has died down again somewhat, but that doesn't stop us in the comments. In Sidepodcast Towers, we've been working on some of the 2008 In... series, and forward planning for 2009. I know, us and forward planning, who would have thought? Anyway, here are some of the things happening outside of the Towers:

Apparently, a parade that was due to be held in Woking in Hamilton's honour has had to be cancelled. The Council weren't prepared to fund the security bill, which they estimated would be over £100,000. Having seen the crowds at Goodwood for Lewis before he won the championship, I can only imagine what they would be like now.

With news trickling out about Rome's desire to hold a street race, Ollie has asked where readers would like to see a street race take place. Head on over to BlogF1 to comment, and then let us know what you said.

James Allen is trying to convince us that the Alonso to Ferrari story is true. I don't need that much convincing because with contracts all up in the air from the end of 2009 anyway, anything could happen. Alonso is usually the one holding up the driver's market, why should things be any different in 2010 / 2011?

There's also a fiendishly difficult game circulating in the comments. It seems to be very popular, but I couldn't work out level 1, and didn't have the inclination to try very hard. Let us know how you get on though, if you attempt it, and I'll see you in the comments.

244 responses

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 00:04

A street race.

Newcastle, though I doubt we'd call of the Fishmongers market on the quayside for that.

Or, want to see Nelson Piquet crash into Grey's Monument, or him crash off the Tyne bridge, there's a lot that could go wrong there.

Why don't McLaren go halves on the £100k it would reportedly cost to let Lewis have his little parade? £50k is next to nothing for them (credit crunch of not) and I doubt the council would pass on the opportunity to bring in some tourism for the day either.

me30/12/2008 at 00:13

Why don’t McLaren go halves on the £100k it would reportedly cost to let Lewis have his little parade? £50k is next to nothing for them (credit crunch of not) and I doubt the council would pass on the opportunity to bring in some tourism for the day either.

v.good question. i guess they'd argue it's for the benefit of the local community and they have better things to be doing. this is mclaren after all.

Jordan Allen (Oh, no! Not a tran …30/12/2008 at 00:15

Montreal would be perfect. They already have everything pretty well ready to go, and as it is out in a public park on an island in on a river in the middle of the city, you are not really cutting off traffic flow in the city and it is very easy to get in and out of the race track.

It even has these cool things called "Red Lights" that can even humble Lewis Hamilton....

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 00:16

As I incorrectly posted in another post:

Off-topic - Nissan might be taking the GT-R to Le Mans. There’s pics of a mysterious black GT-R testing at Fuji in what looks to be FIA GT1-spec.

me30/12/2008 at 00:18

Off-topic - Nissan might be taking the GT-R to Le Mans. There’s pics of a mysterious black GT-R testing at Fuji in what looks to be FIA GT1-spec.

i'm gonna need some backstory.

have the been to le mans before, are they any good, who's likely to be driving?

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 00:25

Proposed Newcastle Street Circuit

http://quikmaps.com/show/89194

me30/12/2008 at 00:33

Proposed Newcastle Street Circuit

oh my goodness. quality!

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 00:39

me: 30/12/2008 at 00:18

Off-topic - Nissan might be taking the GT-R to Le Mans. There’s pics of a mysterious black GT-R testing at Fuji in what looks to be FIA GT1-spec.

i’m gonna need some backstory.

have the been to le mans before, are they any good, who’s likely to be driving?

1) Yes, Nissan have been to Le Mans on numerous occasions, the last being 1999 when they ran two LMP prototypes (called the R391), although only one car started after Eric Van de Poele suffered a jammed throttle and crashed heavily. A Nissan holds the official Le Mans lap record when Mark Blundell of all people put his R90CK on pole for the 1990 race.

2) Admittingly, Nissan have been like every other Japanese manufacturer, with the big exception of Mazda who did win the race in 1991, to enter Le Mans - good effort, but just not quite good enough. Reliability and consistency issues seem to have been the problems in their 24 hour attempts, but I would say their best race was 1998 when they managed to get 2 of their 3 R390s home well. They have race a Skyline/GT-R before though, in the GT1 class in 1994 or 1995, I can't remember which.

3) No idea. Saw the story on today's Fast Lane Daily on YouTube so you're guess is as good as mine. I'm thinking they might go with their works drivers from the Super GT series, where the GTR also competes, although in more of a silhouette form.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 00:42

v.good question. i guess they’d argue it’s for the benefit of the local community and they have better things to be doing. this is mclaren after all.

"We would put the parade on for Lewis, but we're much too busy trying to enhance the aerodynamic capabilities of a new kind of carbon-fibre toilet seat, so if you wouldn't mind..."

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 00:51

London street track

http://quikmaps.com/show/89198

More tight and twisty than Newcastle, but this focuses on remaining close to the Thames and even goes near Buckinham Palace.

I hope the Queen likes Formula 1

Ollie30/12/2008 at 00:55

Newcastle (I love the layout, RG. I might add it to my Google Circuits project (download link) when I get time) and Montreal (we all know it's a great street circuit). Very good suggestions. The post on BF1 will be followed by a little Googley-Earth-Goodness from my good myself in a couple of days. I'll shoot a link when I post (it may have to be manually inserted given BF1's eccentric behaviour regarding such things). :)

Newcastle. I genuinely think that's brilliant. :)

lou30/12/2008 at 00:57

London street track

lol that's one long circuit! lol it's great it goes past most of the torist attractions in London. You could even watch the race from the top of the London Eye.

Brilliant idea R.G :)

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 00:59

Newcastle. I genuinely think that’s brilliant.

Thank you very much Ollie, tried to include what made Newcastle, Newcastle. So the Tyne Bridge, Quayside, St James Park etc.

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 01:01

lol that’s one long circuit! lol it’s great it goes past most of the torist attractions in London. You could even watch the race from the top of the London Eye.

Cheers Lou. Tried to make this one similar to what everyone knows what London is like, which mainly revolved around the Thames, but I quite like it. The Tower Bridge is possibly my fave part of the track.

Dan Brunell30/12/2008 at 01:03

I would love to see a F1 race in the streets in Seattle. I wouldn't use the same route as Grand Tourismo though. To bad I have a better chance dating a Eva Green than seeing that happening.

Anyhow, I gave it a shot with quickmaps. Sorry if it seems a little bit Tilke-ish with the long straights and slow corners. However, there is a couple hundred feet worth of elevation, especially from "Needle" to the "Edwards Hairpin." Think the drop in Bullitt but over a half mile.

LINK: http://quikmaps.com/show/86098

Ollie30/12/2008 at 01:04

London street track

Which prompted me to check http://londonf1.com. Alas, it's finally expired. For those too young to know, there was a genuine case put forward for a London GP in the late-'90s/early-'00s, which resulted in many layouts and much debate. Needless to say, it didn't happen. :(

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 01:06

You know there's a piece in the current Autosport which is about a possible London GP layout. Check it out if you haven't already. ;)

me30/12/2008 at 01:07

(it may have to be manually inserted given BF1’s eccentric behaviour regarding such things)

no probs.

Anyhow, I gave it a shot with quickmaps.

you guys are too creative. and where the heck has quickmaps been all my life?

Dan Brunell30/12/2008 at 01:12

Also, if they ever want to go back to Long Beach (F1 should of never left in the first place; thanks Bernie) here is the route I would suggest.

LINK: http://quikmaps.com/show/58946

Le Wombat du BOL30/12/2008 at 01:19

James Allen is trying to convince us that the Alonso to Ferrari story is true.

That's an interesting topic, I belive it's true as well. Flavio is leaving in 2 years' time so ALO might want some kind of Italian F1 "Mafia" family spirit & where else to feel it other than at Maranello? Pizza, Enzo clones, good wine, he lives in Switzerland so it's gonna be close the the factory. Although he famously said at the end of 2006 Brazilian GP that he would not drive an F1 car if it's painted red but it's rubbish now. People do change, the guy wanted to leave Renault as early as 2004 but I think it's some kind of mysterious mutual "profit" (can't find a decent word) that keeps the relation going... but not for long, aye?

Also the journalists need to fill the void created by this whole Christmas situation... I mean every F1 fan knows that grandprix.com reported it as early as May. He mentioned 2009 I think so the date just moved in the recent story, that's all.

me30/12/2008 at 01:22

People do change, the guy wanted to leave Renault as early as 2004 but I think it’s some kind of mysterious mutual “profit” (can’t find a decent word) that keeps the relation going… but not for long, aye?

profit is exactly the right word du bol.

Alianora La Canta30/12/2008 at 01:25

This is silly. I've figured out what the answer to 8 is to Zahada - but I have no idea what the question was because I was trying to solve 6 at the time...

This is the second time I've accidentally jumped level. Something tells me that I don't think the way whoever wrote this puzzle does. Fun though.

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 01:34

I'll be honest, New York is an awful place for a street race.

Unless you want a NASCAR street race of course

Ollie30/12/2008 at 01:34

Flavio is leaving in 2 years

And this is an important point. Flavio always said he would stay as long as Alonso did. Despite his defection to Woking for a year. The dates are very coincidental.

Although I still think Allen's article screams 'look at me with my friend at GDS'. Good for Allen, but not great blogging (if I may speak slightly out of turn).

Le Wombat du BOL30/12/2008 at 01:34

profit is exactly the right word du bol

Could be, it's a bit like Lauda and Ferrari or Lauda and McLaren.

I hope Webber header wins. Although you could alternatively use Bernie's method and represent fake F1 cars coloured like rainbow.

Le Wombat du BOL30/12/2008 at 01:37

The dates are very coincidental.

You bet, I won't be allowed to ask questions in Algarve at RF1 presentation because I'm not F1-credited media but it's a question I'd really like to ask Flav.

me30/12/2008 at 01:41

Although I still think Allen’s article screams ‘look at me with my friend at GDS’. Good for Allen, but not great blogging (if I may speak slightly out of turn).

completely take you point there. however credit to allen for this nugget:

"The irony is that they would have hired Alonso in 2006 when they took Raikkonen were it not for the fact that Alonso had fallen out with Jean Todt after pulling out of an agreed testing contract in 2001, to sign for Renault."

"Todt said he would never drive for Ferrari, but Todt’s influence is now reduced at Ferrari and Montezemolo clearly felt that they had hired the wrong man when they took Raikkonen instead of Alonso in 2006."

i don't think i knew any of that before?

Ollie30/12/2008 at 01:43

I won’t be allowed to ask questions in Algarve at RF1 presentation because I’m not F1-credited media

If you are going to be there, in the same room as Flavio and the so-called accredited media... can't you just stand behind such a credited person, wait for a lull, ask the question, then crouch down quickly and hope you don't get spotted! :)

Steven Roy30/12/2008 at 01:44

I decided I couldn't go a whole day without a little golf. First three putts were wild then I did 18 straight. I am stopping now to prove to myself that I can walk away after one decent score.

Ollie30/12/2008 at 01:46

i don’t think i knew any of that before?

That is a fair point. I too am with you. They organised a test in 2001!? WTF!? That was just after they signed Barrichello, was it not (feel free to correct me, btw, memory is a bit hazy at the moment)?

Ollie30/12/2008 at 01:48

feel free to correct me

2001 was Rubens's second year with Ferrari.

lou30/12/2008 at 01:53

I decided I couldn’t go a whole day without a little golf.

oh dear, that sounds like my parents, who are both keen golfers. Golfing is addictive (apparently).

me30/12/2008 at 01:54

They organised a test in 2001!? WTF!?

no idea, have tried googling but no had a lot of luck as yet.

fancy dropping that into the conversation on page 2 of a blog post!

Jordan Allen (Oh, no! Not a tran …30/12/2008 at 03:48

With news trickling out about Rome’s desire to hold a street race, Ollie has asked where readers would like to see a street race take place. Head on over to BlogF1 to comment, and then let us know what you said.

I still can not see the logic behind this but I am sure that if his Holiness would merely scratch the the top of his pockets enough money could be found for the Vatican City Grand Prix....

Not like this trick has not been done before, but at least teh track will be somewhere near the country that it is named after, and not some 70 km away...

best of all, it keeps Monza on the circus!

Scott in Italy (Christmas day is …30/12/2008 at 04:06

James Allen is trying to convince us that the Alonso to Ferrari story is true.

Given the Honda story, I'm reluctant to bother with this one too much until more people report it! But I notice it is another italian newspaper that is breaking the story. Good thing for all of us, my italian is getting better :)

Not that interesting, but Bernie seems to be enjoying himself with his family at Christmas.

translation follows

Ecclestone and his women - After the voices of divorce subside to peace, at least according to some Serbian newspapers... the boss of the F1 Bernie Ecclestone, 78 years, and his wife Slavica, 50, to the center in the photo with their daughters Petra (left) and Tamara (right).

to me this article just looks like a rehash of news from the last two weeks with Coulthard's quotes, and also stuff about the Honda deal that appears to not be a honda deal. The article says Red Bull won't introduce the new car until February so that'll help Webber.

Alex Andronov30/12/2008 at 07:48

“The irony is that they would have hired Alonso in 2006 when they took Raikkonen were it not for the fact that Alonso had fallen out with Jean Todt after pulling out of an agreed testing contract in 2001, to sign for Renault.”

“Todt said he would never drive for Ferrari, but Todt’s influence is now reduced at Ferrari and Montezemolo clearly felt that they had hired the wrong man when they took Raikkonen instead of Alonso in 2006.”

i don’t think i knew any of that before?

It isn't a new thought from James. He has mentioned it before in his ITV column.

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 09:43

Good job I signed up for the Weblog Awards Newsletter

http://2008.weblogawards.org/site-news/2008-weblog-awards-finalists/

We're in the finals!

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 09:49

And congratualations Ollie for getting into best sports blog finalist list as well.

Stuart C30/12/2008 at 09:59

Morning all,

i’m gonna need some backstory

Spin past the first 2m20s of this video to watch in-car footage of Mark Blundell's qualifying lap in 1990. They'd had all sorts of problems so this was his first go on full boost (1100ps!).

Unfortunately, that is nothing like a nice relaxing drive in the country.

Ollie30/12/2008 at 11:44

And congratualations Ollie for getting into best sports blog finalist list as well.

Thanks RG. And congratulations to Sidepodcast! Go for the win - all you people have to vote everyday for SPC from the first day to the last, you hear me! And also congratulations to Keith from F1Fanatic. I'm up against F1F and some other high-profile non-F1 sites, but the recognition is great. Thanks to all from Sidepodcast who voted for me - I'll type up a proper post for BF1 later.

Alex Andronov30/12/2008 at 11:59

Good job I signed up for the Weblog Awards Newsletter

http://2008.weblogawards.org/site-news/2008-weblog-awards-finalists/

We’re in the finals!

I think the fact that R.G. said "we're in the finals" should show just how much of a community we are.

Christine30/12/2008 at 12:18

I think the fact that R.G. said “we’re in the finals” should show just how much of a community we are.

Hear, hear.

Christine30/12/2008 at 12:19

Comment in moderation again :/

Found it.

lou30/12/2008 at 13:11

Good job I signed up for the Weblog Awards Newsletter

http://2008.weblogawards.org/site-news/2008-weblog-awards-finalists/

We’re in the finals!

yay! Well done Sidepodcast :) Specially as we made it into 2 different categories, best online community and best podcast :D

lou30/12/2008 at 13:13

I never used to get comments go into moderation, now it happens all the time... i'm starting to think wordpress has suddenly taken a disliking to me :P

Christine30/12/2008 at 13:14

I never used to get comments go into moderation, now it happens all the time… i’m starting to think wordpress has suddenly taken a disliking to me

Got it. It must be the link to the awards, cos that's the same problem as Scott had. Apologies.

lou30/12/2008 at 13:16

Got it. It must be the link to the awards, cos that’s the same problem as Scott had. Apologies.

ah right ok. note to self - don't quote already used links unless you have to :P

Le Wombat du BOL30/12/2008 at 14:10

can’t you just stand behind such a credited person, wait for a lull, ask the question, then crouch down quickly and hope you don’t get spotted!

Good idea. I'm just hoping to have some fun in general, maybe sneak into Renault garage or something. Hopefully.

And it looks like Irvine joined "ALO to Ferrari / spank Kimi" theme park.

"If you're the highest paid you have to be the best and he's not doing the job, simple as that. If he doesn't beat Massa next year I'd be sacking him or reducing his wages massively. In sport if you perform you get paid and if you don't perform you're out."

"I'd be sacking him" sounds great, IRV still got what it takes to come up with a crazy quote, like the one about Schumacher's head / helmet shape.

me30/12/2008 at 14:39

yay! Well done Sidepodcast :) Specially as we made it into 2 different categories, best online community and best podcast

actually, tomorrow would make more sense, given that's when they release the images.

Jordan Allen (Oh, no! Not a tran …30/12/2008 at 15:10

Anyone still playing that evil webgame?

Bassano Clapper30/12/2008 at 15:58

Anyoine still playing that evil webgame?

:D I'm having a rest on 46, will go back in a few days probably

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 16:15

Got it. It must be the link to the awards, cos that’s the same problem as Scott had. Apologies.

So why did my link work then?

me30/12/2008 at 16:20

So why did my link work then?

good question. have no idea. akismet is the thing that's putting everyone into moderation:

http://akismet.com/

i can only assume they locked it down tight during the holidays? honestly have no idea why it does what it does.

it's keeping 200+ nasty spam comments a day, away from your delicate eyes though, and you know we always get stuff out of the queue as soon as we spot it.

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 16:28

I think the fact that R.G. said “we’re in the finals” should show just how much of a community we are.

Well to be fair, I do say 'we're' for anyone I support, ie, BMW, Spurs etc.

But yeah, good that somebody saw it that way :)

Jordan Allen (Oh, no! Not a tran …30/12/2008 at 17:13

Bassano Clapper said:

Anyoine still playing that evil webgame?

I’m having a rest on 46, will go back in a few days probably

No hints for level 20?

Dank30/12/2008 at 17:21

My Autosport International tickets arrived today which was pretty quick as I only ordered them on Sunday evening. The BOGOF offer definitely works as well.

And... I've changed my mind about the F1 season review DVD from just a couple of days ago. Was it Lou who bought a mug instead of this? Wise girl!

me30/12/2008 at 17:24

My Autosport International tickets arrived today which was pretty quick as I only ordered them on Sunday evening. The BOGOF offer definitely works as well.

ace. that's what we did too :)

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 17:31

Just something I remembered.

Does anyone wanna have a go at a private F1 2008 game on BATracer?. Yes, I know what you're going to say next - I have no idea how to play it. Fear not, I can provide some help. I'll write a short and sweet guide about the main things you need to know and do to play.

Besides, it's something F1 related and a game to keep up occupied until the start of next season.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 17:33

Plus you guys can be in the teams you support. So for example Lou can be in Honda, R.G can be in BMW, etc, etc. :P

Alenyaa30/12/2008 at 17:36

If I could choose one venue for a street race, it would be Rotterdam by night.

Does anyone wanna have a go at a private F1 2008 game on BATracer?. Yes, I know what you’re going to say next - I have no idea how to play it. Fear not, I can provide some help. I’ll write a short and sweet guide about the main things you need to know and do to play.

Besides, it’s something F1 related and a game to keep up occupied until the start of next season.

Create the guide, and I'll take a look at it and see if I deem myself clever enough to play :-P

lou30/12/2008 at 17:38

Was it Lou who bought a mug instead of this? Wise girl!

yep it was :) it's not arrived yet :( but i'm hopeful it will come soon, as i broke one of my other mugs today when i tripped over the cat.

me30/12/2008 at 17:38

If I could choose one venue for a street race, it would be Rotterdam by night.

that is rather lovely.

me30/12/2008 at 17:39

yep it was it’s not arrived yet but i’m hopeful it will come soon, as i broke one of my other mugs today when i tripped over the cat.

they do take awhile. coming from the US n'all that. we've really got to find a UK mug supplier.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 17:40

Create the guide, and I’ll take a look at it and see if I deem myself clever enough to play

OK, should I just do a long comment here or write something in a Word document?

lou30/12/2008 at 17:40

they do take awhile. coming from the US n’all that. we’ve really got to find a UK mug supplier.

hehe ;) i'm sure it will be worth the wait :D lol

Christine30/12/2008 at 17:40

they do take awhile. coming from the US n’all that. we’ve really got to find a UK mug supplier.

Done. We've really got to make some new designs :)

Christine30/12/2008 at 17:41

OK, should I just do a long comment here or write something in a Word document?

Drop.io sounds like the perfect place for it.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 17:41

Drop.io sounds like the perfect place for it.

I'll get to it then ;)

me30/12/2008 at 17:42

Done. We’ve really got to make some new designs

we have a uk mug supplier?

Alenyaa30/12/2008 at 17:43

that is rather lovely.

I'd say :)

But it's never going to happen anyway, so no point in dwelling over what could be.

Alenyaa30/12/2008 at 17:44

Done. We’ve really got to make some new designs

How about using the headers for new mug designs?

me30/12/2008 at 17:44

I’d say

But it’s never going to happen anyway, so no point in dwelling over what could be.

i now dislike valencia even more :)

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 17:44

Done. We’ve really got to make some new designs

Did someone say Nick Heidfeld?

Alenyaa30/12/2008 at 17:47

i now dislike valencia even more

I'm fairly sure streets in Rotterdam are wider too, which can only be good

Dank30/12/2008 at 17:48

BATracer scares me. But I'm willing to give it a go :-)

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 17:48

Streets in Rotterdam are probably wider to, which can only be good

That can only be a problem with my Newcastle GP circuit...

Alenyaa30/12/2008 at 17:48

If I can get them to make a Sato one, I'll eat my hat :D

me30/12/2008 at 17:49

BATracer scares me. But I’m willing to give it a go

we'll sign, but be fashionably late and predictably hopeless.

Alenyaa30/12/2008 at 17:49

That can only be a problem with my Newcastle GP circuit…

Haven't ever been to Newcastle, but I take it streets are a bit narrow there?

me30/12/2008 at 17:51

If I can get them to make a Sato one, I’ll eat my hat

the problem with putting people's faces and brand names on goods is we have no legal right to do so and would probably get our backsides sued off the planet.

we'll likely stick to the sidepodcast logo. please note though - not just yet. website redesign is priority.

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 17:51

Haven’t ever been to Newcastle, but I take it streets are a bit narrow there?

For a Formula 1 race, I would say yes at certain points, others would be like Monaco. But some are quite small, but, its a concept :D

lou30/12/2008 at 17:53

Plus you guys can be in the teams you support. So for example Lou can be in Honda, R.G can be in BMW, etc, etc.

lol sounds good to me. i'll sign up :) i've done one once before, i didn't go particularly well, but i was in a team on my own... tbh if i'm not in honda i won't be best pleased :P

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 17:53

we’ll sign, but be fashionably late and predictably hopeless.

BATracer, oh yeah, remember playing that as Renault number 2 with a Latvian team-mate (who I actually new, helped me out lots). Was crap, managed about 3 points all season.

But yeah, why not? :D

Alenyaa30/12/2008 at 17:54

the problem with putting people’s faces and brand names on goods is we have no legal right to do so and would probably get our backsides sued off the planet.

Ah yes, forgot about that.

Darn commercialanism (is that even a word???)

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 17:57

Ah yes, forgot about that. Darn commercialanism (is that even a word???)

No, but I'd like it to be ;)

Bassano Clapper30/12/2008 at 17:59

No hints for level 20?

First hint: what is the statue in the picture? Do you recognize who it is?

From what culture does it originate?

That will tell you what sort of number to use.

Second hint: ignore the first two lines. Using the sort of number that originates in the culture that created the subject of that statue, what is thirty-two?

me30/12/2008 at 18:01

No, but I’d like it to be

http://sidepodcast.wetpaint.com/page/Dictionary

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 18:01

lol sounds good to me. i’ll sign up i’ve done one once before, i didn’t go particularly well, but i was in a team on my own… tbh if i’m not in honda i won’t be best pleased

We'll put a list of all the teams up and it'll go first come first serve, so you guys can pick which teams you want.

Also, I would like to see Christine and Me against each other and not on one account. Might induce a bit of rivalry there. Who wants to see that? :P

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 18:04

Also, I would like to see Christine and Me against each other and not on one account. Might induce a bit of rivalry there. Who wants to see that?

Yes, yes, yes.

With a touch of yes on the top

Christine30/12/2008 at 18:06

Also, I would like to see Christine and Me against each other and not on one account. Might induce a bit of rivalry there. Who wants to see that?

I think Mr C is still on the 'no' side of joining another BATRacer game. Still burnt from previous experiences, I believe.

me30/12/2008 at 18:08

I think Mr C is still on the ‘no’ side of joining another BATRacer game. Still burnt from previous experiences, I believe.

i shall give it a go. but i have next to no time to learn it properly, therefore i'll be rubbish. it'd be better if the two of us were on the same team methinks.

me30/12/2008 at 18:08

With a touch of yes on the top

i'm voting no :)

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 18:09

Christine: 30/12/2008 at 18:06

Also, I would like to see Christine and Me against each other and not on one account. Might induce a bit of rivalry there. Who wants to see that?

I think Mr C is still on the ‘no’ side of joining another BATRacer game. Still burnt from previous experiences, I believe.

It's the fun part that counts. So what if you turn out to be hopeless, the main thing is to have fun and enjoy it, or at least try to. My guide should help as well for those who either have no idea how to do it or can play it but are quite bad at it. ;)

i shall give it a go. but i have next to no time to learn it properly, therefore i’ll be rubbish. it’d be better if the two of us were on the same team methinks.

That's perfectly fine. Using my guide, you can both learn together. :)

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 18:09

You can be on the same team, not the same account is what Scott and I are getting at.

me30/12/2008 at 18:11

That’s perfectly fine. Using my guide, you can both learn together.

this can only end well.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 18:11

You can be on the same team, not the same account is what Scott and I are getting at.

Exactly :)

me30/12/2008 at 18:11

You can be on the same team, not the same account is what Scott and I are getting at.

ahh, ok. fair enough then.

lou30/12/2008 at 18:16

We’ll put a list of all the teams up and it’ll go first come first serve, so you guys can pick which teams you want.

sounds good to me :)

lou30/12/2008 at 18:19

this can only end well.

it's pretty easy to learn and doesn't take that long if my memory serves me correctly. you'll be fine ;)

Alex Andronov30/12/2008 at 18:28

Evenin' all... Hope you've been having a good F1 day...

Not much going on in the world of F1 still?

Christine30/12/2008 at 18:29

That’s perfectly fine. Using my guide, you can both learn together.

Perhaps the Wiki would be better, rather than drop.io. Then the info will always be easy to find :)

Christine30/12/2008 at 18:31

Not much going on in the world of F1 still?

Hi Alex, tis all quiet on the F1 front.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 18:32

Perhaps the Wiki would be better, rather than drop.io. Then the info will always be easy to find

Good point. I'll finish writing it up and then copy and paste it onto a new post on the Wiki. I might need some help on that though :P

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 18:34

Good point. I’ll finish writing it up and then copy and paste it onto a new post on the Wiki. I might need some help on that though

Do you need a how to post to post a how to?

Dank30/12/2008 at 18:35

Not much going on in the world of F1 still?

Red Bull Technology are unlikely to unveil either the RB5 or STR4 until the last test session before the season opener at Melbourne. Leaving a bit late, but I reckon Newey has something up his sleeves.

Other than that. Nope. Nothing else!

Christine30/12/2008 at 18:35

Good point. I’ll finish writing it up and then copy and paste it onto a new post on the Wiki. I might need some help on that though

It's a deal.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 18:43

While I write this guide, you guys may as well take a look at this to get a basic idea of how it works.

http://www.formulapod.com/FP_Forum/showthread.php?t=2406

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 18:44

Do you need a how to post to post a how to?

Funnily enough, I think I do. :P

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 18:50

One thing you guys might be interested in is that the 2008 carset does include knockout qualifying like the real thing :P

lou30/12/2008 at 18:51

Other than that. Nope. Nothing else!

A piece of reletivly small news, Bernie has said that Button belongs in a top team, and should consider taking a year out rather than having another season in an uncompetitive car.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 19:20

One thing about changing car setup for weather conditions. Without Kool Tools, it's really complicated and I'm the only one that has it. So unless you want to get KT which costs just under £10, and I would recommend it to make the gameplay easier, just do the runs in practice and warmup as usual and carry whatever setup you have into qualifying or the race depending on which session it is.

lou30/12/2008 at 19:24

One thing about changing car setup for weather conditions. Without Kool Tools, it’s really complicated and I’m the only one that has it. So unless you want to get KT which costs just under £10, and I would recommend it to make the gameplay easier, just do the runs in practice and warmup as usual and carry whatever setup you have into qualifying or the race depending on which session it is.

i didn't have kool tools before and did ok ;) i'm sure i'll be fine without it :P

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 19:25

OK, I think it's done. What do I do to post it on the Wiki?

Dank30/12/2008 at 19:25

Can we play a Sidepodcast noughts and crosses tournament instead? Sounds a lot easier :-D

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 19:27

Dank: 30/12/2008 at 19:25

Can we play a Sidepodcast noughts and crosses tournament instead? Sounds a lot easier

LOL! Don't worry, once you've done the first couple of races, you should just about get the hang of it. :)

Christine30/12/2008 at 19:28

OK, I think it’s done. What do I do to post it on the Wiki?

Log in, then navigate to fun and games. Under the navigation on the left, it says add page.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 19:34

Right it's up! :D

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 19:36

Log in, then navigate to fun and games. Under the navigation on the left, it says add page.

Ta for the help by the way :)

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 19:36

Right it’s up!

Okay, pretty much nothing has changed then over a brief glance.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 19:37

Okay, pretty much nothing has changed then over a brief glance.

Nope, apart from new carsets coming in, nothing major in the gameplay has changed.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 19:38

We should start sorting out teams now. Basically, you can choose from any of the 11 teams from this season (Yes even Super Aguri!). So who's first? :P

Dank30/12/2008 at 19:39

So realistically how many days does a season run over if things advance on a 24hrs basis?

me30/12/2008 at 19:40

Can we play a Sidepodcast noughts and crosses tournament instead? Sounds a lot easier

and from the man who suggested the world's most evil quiz?

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 19:40

Dank: 30/12/2008 at 19:39

So realistically how many days does a season run over if things advance on a 24hrs basis?

Well it's 17 races, a day for qualifying and a day for the race, so we're looking at 34 days. The private game owner does have the power to pause the game and also if need be pass over control to someone else.

me30/12/2008 at 19:41

Well it’s 17 races, a day for qualifying and a day for the race, so we’re looking at 34 days. The private game owner does have the power to pause the game and also if need be pass over control to someone else.

thirty.four.days?

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 19:41

And as it will say, the dates are purely cosmetic. It's not the actual time scales of the game!

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 19:41

and from the man who suggested the world’s most evil quiz?

Haha!

We should start sorting out teams now. Basically, you can choose from any of the 11 teams from this season (Yes even Super Aguri!). So who’s first?

Tough choice, might be BMW, yeah, why not, BMW Sauber

Steven Roy30/12/2008 at 19:41

A piece of reletivly small news, Bernie has said that Button belongs in a top team, and should consider taking a year out rather than having another season in an uncompetitive car.

This is code for Bernie wants Senna in the Toro Rosso if a seat is available as he doesn't need Button as he has Hamilton to keep up the profile of F1 in the UK.

lou30/12/2008 at 19:41

We should start sorting out teams now. Basically, you can choose from any of the 11 teams from this season (Yes even Super Aguri!). So who’s first?

how about putting the list on a wiki page? so people can sign up then?

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 19:41

me: 30/12/2008 at 19:41

Well it’s 17 races, a day for qualifying and a day for the race, so we’re looking at 34 days. The private game owner does have the power to pause the game and also if need be pass over control to someone else.

thirty.four.days?

If there was any way of making it shorter I would, but... :/

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 19:42

If there was any way of making it shorter I would, but… :/

Well, it does cut off half of the pre-season I suppose.

lou30/12/2008 at 19:43

thirty.four.days?

i'm sure the one i did earlier in the year was shorter than that... :) it's only a few mins a day i suppose. :)

Dank30/12/2008 at 19:46

Top Gear special is on again. I rather enjoyed it so I did... all two days ago!

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 19:47

Sign up page is now up.http://sidepodcast.wetpaint.com/page/Drivers+and+Teams

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 19:47

Just remember to post here which team you're going for. So far we have R.G at BMW :P

Dank30/12/2008 at 19:48

So wouldn't it be wise for people to jump onto the McLaren/Ferrari team asap?

In that case, I want Red Bull.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 19:49

Dank: 30/12/2008 at 19:48

So wouldn’t it be wise for people to jump onto the McLaren/Ferrari team asap?

In that case, I want Red Bull.

People can go for whichever team they want. There's nothing stopping them from going with Ferrari or McLaren.

lou30/12/2008 at 19:49

Just remember to post here which team you’re going for. So far we have R.G at BMW

I'm in a Honda :)

Christine30/12/2008 at 19:50

Just remember to post here which team you’re going for. So far we have R.G at BMW

Super Aguri for us, please.

Dank30/12/2008 at 19:51

People can go for whichever team they want. There’s nothing stopping them from going with Ferrari or McLaren.

Yeah, I was just saying out loud that I'd imagine a Ferrari or McLaren might do a bit better than a Super Aguri!

Dank30/12/2008 at 19:51

I spoke too soon.

me30/12/2008 at 19:52

I spoke too soon.

:D

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 19:52

Dank: 30/12/2008 at 19:51

People can go for whichever team they want. There’s nothing stopping them from going with Ferrari or McLaren.

Yeah, I was just saying out loud that I’d imagine a Ferrari or McLaren might do a bit better than a Super Aguri!

The SA isn't completely useless. I've finished 2nd in a race in one. :P People can and have won races in them.

me30/12/2008 at 19:56

Yeah, I was just saying out loud that I’d imagine a Ferrari or McLaren might do a bit better than a Super Aguri!

is your other half playing, dank? ...only i'd imagine she has a fantasy racers score to settle.

Steven Roy30/12/2008 at 20:02

I tried BAT Racer once and didn't get past first practise because work interfered. Given that I know nothing about it beyond Scott's guide I decided to go for a good car so I have signed for McLaren.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 20:02

Steven Roy: 30/12/2008 at 20:02

I tried BAT Racer once and didn’t get past first practise because work interfered. Given that I know nothing about it beyond Scott’s guide I decided to go for a good car so I have signed for McLaren.

Good choice sir. The MP4-23 should serve you well.

Christine30/12/2008 at 20:04

Heidfeld reckons fugly means more accidents as well:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72589

lou30/12/2008 at 20:06

Good choice sir. The MP4-23 should serve you well.

Scott, which team are you gonna be in? Mclaren?

Steven Roy30/12/2008 at 20:08

Heidfeld reckons fugly means more accidents as well:

It is so obvious that if you have wider wings than the drivers are used too they will get broken.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 20:08

lou: 30/12/2008 at 20:06

Good choice sir. The MP4-23 should serve you well.

Scott, which team are you gonna be in? Mclaren?

I was thinking either that or a lower team so that I wouldn't run away and win the whole damn thing.

Steven Roy30/12/2008 at 20:08

Scott, which team are you gonna be in? Mclaren?

I guess whoever has Scott as a team mate has a huge advantage.

Christine30/12/2008 at 20:08

It is so obvious that if you have wider wings than the drivers are used too they will get broken.

Okay. Never mind then.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 20:09

Steven Roy: 30/12/2008 at 20:08

Scott, which team are you gonna be in? Mclaren?

I guess whoever has Scott as a team mate has a huge advantage.

To be honest, while I know how the game works kinda inside out, I've never won a public or private championship ever. I have won a few races though.

Steven Roy30/12/2008 at 20:12

Okay. Never mind then.

My comment was not meant as a criticism just an observation

Christine30/12/2008 at 20:22

My comment was not meant as a criticism just an observation

That's okay, Heidfeld said it, not me. :)

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 20:31

I'm in the process of setting up the game, and as game owner I can modify some aspects of the game. These are:

Qualifying Accidents

Start Problems

Mayhem Starts

Yellow Flags

Mechanical Problems

Driver Errors

Pit Stop Problems

Overtaking Chance

Collisions

Anything you would like me to alter to make it more interesting? They're all set at default values of 1.00.

littlepurplegoth30/12/2008 at 20:39

the problem with putting people’s faces and brand names on goods is we have no legal right to do so and would probably get our backsides sued off the planet.

Or you could get somebody to do a *drawing* of people... there tend to be less issues with 'art'

Now - do you have a t-shirt supplier or would you like a referal to someone? :-D

me30/12/2008 at 20:42

Or you could get somebody to do a *drawing* of people… there tend to be less issues with ‘art’

if there are any volunteers, that'd be ace. i can't draw sadly.

Christine30/12/2008 at 20:44

if there are any volunteers, that’d be ace. i can’t draw sadly.

I can draw a cartoon horse. And Bart Simpson. That's it.

Flibster30/12/2008 at 20:45

I can draw a cartoon horse. And Bart Simpson. That’s it.

I dread to ask this question.... but doing what exactly?

Andy Taylor30/12/2008 at 20:47

I dread to ask this question…. but doing what exactly?

:)

Steven Roy30/12/2008 at 20:49

I dread to ask this question…. but doing what exactly?

They need a volunteer to draw 'me' who no-one has ever seen

me30/12/2008 at 20:50

They need a volunteer to draw ‘me’ who no-one has ever seen

there's a flaw isn't there?

Andy Taylor30/12/2008 at 20:58

there’s a flaw isn’t there?

Never seen an artist's impression?

Christine30/12/2008 at 21:00

They need a volunteer to draw ‘me’ who no-one has ever seen

I'd do it... but he'd look like Bart Simpson.

Andy Taylor30/12/2008 at 21:01

I’d do it… but he’d look like Bart Simpson.

:D

Flibster30/12/2008 at 21:01

I’d do it… but he’d look like Bart Simpson.

Or a cartoon horse.. Ummm...

lou30/12/2008 at 21:04

They need a volunteer to draw ‘me’ who no-one has ever seen

i'd do it, but i can't draw particularly well (hence why i do photography and textiles rather than art).

lou30/12/2008 at 21:04

I’d do it… but he’d look like Bart Simpson.

haha

Steven Roy30/12/2008 at 21:07

I’d do it… but he’d look like Bart Simpson.

Could you make him look like Bart Simpson in a panda suit?

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 21:10

Off topic - is anyone watching Shooting Stars on BBC2 :D

Flibster30/12/2008 at 21:10

Nope - It has Vic Reeves in it. I find having surgery more entertaining.

We have 6 for the BATracer game and we need at least 10 to start the game. A post would be too much to ask for, wouldn't it? ;)

Christine30/12/2008 at 22:32

i liked that one too, but i ran out of time.

The Amphibious Challenge is good too.

me30/12/2008 at 22:33

We have 6 for the BATracer game and we need at least 10 to start the game. A post would be too much to ask for, wouldn’t it?

bloomin' heck yup.

give a day or two and we'll be less busy tho.

Andy Taylor30/12/2008 at 22:34

201368. That’ll do little pig. That’ll do.

Does that include the numbers in red? If so: 376355

Andy Taylor30/12/2008 at 22:35

399930

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 22:36

me: 30/12/2008 at 22:33

We have 6 for the BATracer game and we need at least 10 to start the game. A post would be too much to ask for, wouldn’t it?

bloomin’ heck yup.

give a day or two and we’ll be less busy tho.

no rush. i'm the game creator so we can start whenever, and when we have enough signed up.

Alex Andronov30/12/2008 at 22:40

I’d do it… but he’d look like Bart Simpson.

Doesn't Me look like Bart Simpson?

Illusions. Shattered.

Steven Roy30/12/2008 at 22:41

I can't get any decent height but I just landed in reverse. Bet NASA can't do that

Christine30/12/2008 at 22:44

Doesn’t Me look like Bart Simpson?

Hmmm. I can neither confirm nor deny.

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 22:53

Hmmm. I can neither confirm nor deny.

How about that?

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 22:53

A link usually helps

http://drop.io/sidepodcast/asset/mrc

Steven Roy30/12/2008 at 22:56

The office drive game is full of cogs

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …30/12/2008 at 23:00

I'm watching some clips on Top Gear's website :)

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 23:04

Oh crap. The ITV season review is on.

Oh crap. Where's the remote?

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 23:05

Oh crap. Where’s the remote?

Ah, its always in the most obvious place.

lou30/12/2008 at 23:05

Oh crap. The ITV season review is on.

lol i was just about to say, for anyone who is feeling brave it's on.however i promptly ran away from the tv when i heard the dull tones of Steve Ryder :P

Andy Taylor30/12/2008 at 23:09

From the Top Gear website -

"Jeremy, Richard and James will all be back in 2009 for more adventures, even if the global car industry isn't. Don't worry though, even a review of a bicycle can be exciting if you set it on fire and race it down the side of an active volcano...

Now there's a thought."

:D

Steven Roy30/12/2008 at 23:11

lol i was just about to say, for anyone who is feeling brave it’s on.however i promptly ran away from the tv when i heard the dull tones of Steve Ryder

I missed it the first time. Michael McIntyre is supposed to be on Graham Norton on BBC2 if he has any fans here

me30/12/2008 at 23:11

is this news btw? mario on kers:

"That argument not only speaks of a lack of competitiveness but also a reluctance to play a role in the bigger picture," Theissen told the German Spiegel magazine

http://www.flagworld.com/news/?p=10472

Jon Waldock30/12/2008 at 23:12

I missed it the first time. Michael McIntyre is supposed to be on Graham Norton on BBC2 if he has any fans here

watching itn now, he's very good :)

R.G (The evil one, think Bernie E …30/12/2008 at 23:12

is this news btw? mario on kers:

We have to be the team that defends KERS

lou30/12/2008 at 23:12

I missed it the first time. Michael McIntyre is supposed to be on Graham Norton on BBC2 if he has any fans here

lol thanks, dad just pointed it out to me... not that i usually watch Graham Norton, but i make an exception for Mr Michael McIntyre :P

Andy Taylor30/12/2008 at 23:13

is this news btw? mario on kers

Or in other words - "our KERS is working just fine, so what's the problem?"

me30/12/2008 at 23:14

Or in other words - “our KERS is working just fine, so what’s the problem?”

technically it is now :)

he's right though.

Steven Roy30/12/2008 at 23:21

lol thanks, dad just pointed it out to me… not that i usually watch Graham Norton, but i make an exception for Mr Michael McIntyre

I thought you might

Alenyaa30/12/2008 at 23:51

If Lou doesn't mind/doesn't have anyone particular in mind, I'd like to join her at Honda.

Now let's hope I can beat our hosts at this game as well :-P

We are in a bit of the same car, so I guess it should be an equal battle.

And I am not, I repeat, NOT, wearing the green trousers...

lou30/12/2008 at 23:58

If Lou doesn’t mind/doesn’t have anyone partyicular in mind, I’d like to join her at Honda.

That's fine, i don't mind. :)

And I am not, I repeat, NOT, wearing the green trousers…

not even the dark green ones?

Dank31/12/2008 at 00:02

Michael McIntyre is supposed to be on Graham Norton on BBC2 if he has any fans here

Funniest man around at the moment. FACT.

His DVD had me in stitches and I thoroughly recommend it :-D

lou31/12/2008 at 00:05

His DVD had me in stitches and I thoroughly recommend it

lol i totally agree :D it's a great DVD.

Scott Woodwiss (hotlap master ext …31/12/2008 at 00:05

After a carefully decided though of "The heck with it", I've joined Steven at McLaren :P

Alenyaa31/12/2008 at 00:07

not even the dark green ones?

Maybe shorts, but not trousers. :-P

Funniest man around at the moment. FACT.

Sorry, wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Krv4YEMwCE

:D

Flibster31/12/2008 at 00:10

lou: 31/12/2008 at 00:05

His DVD had me in stitches and I thoroughly recommend it

lol i totally agree it’s a great DVD.

Ditto.

Lets all go get totally gazeboed. :D

Alenyaa31/12/2008 at 00:11

not even the dark green ones?

Maybe shorts, but not trousers.

Funniest man around at the moment. FACT.

Sorry, wrong. That would be Lewis Black. :D

Originally I posted a link, but it was moderated.

Alenyaa31/12/2008 at 00:13

After a carefully decided though of “The heck with it”, I’ve joined Steven at McLaren

Thanks for adding me to Honda, Scott!

Alenyaa31/12/2008 at 00:23

Btw, does your site often moderate?

I've posted links before, but never had them moderated before.

I can try with anmother one if you think that might work?

lou31/12/2008 at 00:24

Lets all go get totally gazeboed.

haha XD

me31/12/2008 at 00:25

Btw, does your site often moderate?

I’ve posted links before, but never had them moderated before.

I can try with anmother one if you think that might work?

have found it. and it's started going a bit crazy of late. off limits appears to be: