warren: I did, added Enabled=True under [xdmcp] section in /etc/gdm/custom.conf...

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warren: if gdm does xdmcp properly, should it listen on UDp port 177?

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<warren>

Hyperbyte: it has been years since I have used XDMCP....

06:07

Hyperbyte: try turning off your firewall too

06:07

Hyperbyte: also there might be a separate "tcp" protocol thing turned off

06:07

Hyperbyte: did you restart gdm after editing the config?

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<Hyperbyte>

warren: restarted the whole machine...

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<Hyperbyte>

warren: now that I have your ear, I have another question... in a previous version there was a root terminal in screen 2.. (CTRL+ALT+F2)...

06:13

<warren>

it should still be there unless you turned it off

06:14

/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf

06:14

I am turning it off by default soon.

06:14

<Hyperbyte>

Well it's definitely a different version I have...

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<Hyperbyte>

Before I had login screen with yellow letters and blue background... now I have login screen with gradient background and K12 Linux logo

06:15

Since then terminal disappeared...

06:15

SCREEN_02=shell in lts.conf doesn't bring it back either.

06:15

* warren tests it...

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<warren>

what do you see if you CTRL-ALT-F1?

06:15

text?

06:15

<Hyperbyte>

Yep, startup stuf

06:15

*stuff

06:16

Nothing interactive.

06:16

<warren>

hold, testing it on my system

06:16

working here

06:16

<Hyperbyte>

SCREEN_02=shell in lts.conf?

06:16

Is all?

06:17

<ogra>

no

06:17

you need at least a [default] section header

06:17

<warren>

your lts.conf is blank!?

06:18

<Hyperbyte>

Of course not

06:18

I meant SCREEN_02=shell is enough to get a shell in screen 2 normally...

06:18

<warren>

it is working here

06:18

are you sure your chroot is complete? try blowing it away and create a new one

06:19

<Hyperbyte>

http://www.recreatie-zorg.nl/lts.conf

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* Hyperbyte runs ltsp-build-client again

06:37

<Hyperbyte>

warren: still no terminal. :|

06:39

<warren>

I have no idea then

06:40

Hyperbyte: oh, one possibility is that it is failing to download lts.conf from the server and it is falling back to defaults

06:40

<ogra>

you should see inetd errors in the logs for tht though

06:41

or tftp ones

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<Hyperbyte>

warren: anyway I can test if it reads lts.conf?

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<tostado>

hi

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<tostado>

i just realized the with ltsp, every process is ran on the server. i want to run some (cpu-intense) processes on the client itself, is this possible with ltsp ?

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<tostado>

or am a completely wrong with ltsp and have to look for another project

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<Hyperbyte>

tostado: very possible. Have a look at LTSP local apps.

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<tostado>

hyperbyte: where ?

07:22

<Hyperbyte>

If you enter LOCAL_APPS=Y in lts.conf you can use the command "ltsp-localapps <command>" to execute commands on the client

07:22

You could test this with "ltsp-localapps /usr/bin/xterm", for example

07:23

<tostado>

ok, but how do i start a app from the server on a client ?

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<Hyperbyte>

Above command.

07:24

<tostado>

but the above command don't tell on WHICH client i want to start something

07:24

<Hyperbyte>

You execute the command on the client

07:25

<tostado>

ok, that i did understand, but how could i remotely (from the server) start an lokal app. on a certain client ?

07:25

<Hyperbyte>

That I don't know.

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<tostado>

can i "login" from the server to a client ? running ssh local on a client?

07:26

<Hyperbyte>

I'm not an expert on LTSP, only started using it a few weeks ago. :)

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<sep>

tostado, if you have a password set in your chroot and run ssh on the client yes

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<tostado>

ok, that was maybe what i was looking for. with ssh i than can start local appl. on the clients, i hope

07:29

<sep>

tostado, without a clue to how it works i would assume you run that command from a grafical login on the client. so when you run it in X on the server it would check what client you are on and run it there..... ?

07:30

<tostado>

hmm.... don't understand

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<tostado>

I'm maybe still a bit confused how ltsp works, i was looking for a solution where EVERYTHING runs on the clients, because i have quadcore cpus on the clients to do the hard work....

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<ogra>

tostado, wait for Nubae to show up, he has a howto for fat clients

07:32

<tostado>

so maybe i will think it all over and look for an alternative. because it seems it is possible with ltsp but looks like it's not invented to do so

07:33

ok!

07:33

anyway, what a cool project if anyone is involved in it !

07:34

<ogra>

sep, the latest ltsp releases (lenny, intrepid and FC10) all have a new localapp infrastructure by default preinstalled, you only need to install the app inside the chroot and create a special .desktop file ...

07:34

<sep>

ogra, awsome, must be tested.

07:35

<ogra>

documented first :)

07:35

<sep>

:)

07:35

<ogra>

i dont think we have proper docs for it yet and not all distros install the server side script in the same places

07:36

(ubuntu ships it in the doc examples, fedora just installs it etc)

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<tostado>

if i want local apps, would it be good if i switch to interpid i.e. bacause of the new localapp infrastructure

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<highvoltage>

ogra: so hardy doesn't have that, right?

07:40

<ogra>

right

07:40

<highvoltage>

ok

07:40

<ogra>

intrepid does

07:40

hardy essentially only has gutsy ltsp with some small changes

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<tostado>

﻿Hyperbyte: I dont't have "ltsp-localapps"

08:01

i put ﻿LOCAL_APPS=true in lts.conf, rebooted the client but i cant find ﻿ltsp-localapps

08:02

<johnny>

it might have the trunk before the name change

08:02

it might still be xrexecd

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<tostado>

nope. even no ﻿xrexecd here. i have a fresh install of ubunut hardy ltsp server

08:03

<johnny>

no.. it's not on hardy at all

08:03

<tostado>

ok...

08:03

:(

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<johnny>

it wasn't even done by the time hardy was released

08:03

<tostado>

ok. i will try intrepid

08:03

<johnny>

and it's still relatively hard to use in intrepid

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<johnny>

you have to modify the .desktop files yourself

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08:04

* ogra will wrie up a howto once he has time

08:04

<tostado>

or could anyone recommend another project which lets the clients run everything ?

I picked that, cuz I'm familiar with it, and they have a pretty good work-out facility

21:11

and it's about 5.5 hours away from Detroit

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<Mighty-D>

HI

21:24

I have a doubt, i want to acquire a windows server and use all my ltsp clients to go rdp on it, however i dont know how to do this on a legal way since i noticed cals are required for devices not for users, so if i have one ltsp server with 50 users i would only need one license?