How fast is Thanos's "mindrape" and how far can it reach? Because he has seconds to realize his opponent is a billion lightyears high reality warping robot who can kill him with his fart before he get b1tchslapped along with the entire galaxy, and make sure it will work(the mindrape) or it's better to teleport as far as he can, because they are protected inside the robot, at least I read that on a Galactus vs TTGL battle where Galactus lost.

@ImDictatorBowDown: They are screwed a few thing in GT, that's why the hating toward it by people. I don't say it isn't contain inconsistent events in DBZ or DBGT, there are PIS and other plot mistakes as in every manga or comic. But we cannot ignored all the feats from db and dbz especially because they become better from every aspect. I don't remember that scene he was cut by glass, there may be some improbably answer I could give :) but it's more simple if we say pis.

@ImDictatorBowDown: If I know correct, the WB Hulk is the strongest cannon. Going by what we see, of course Goku and the others doesn't have so impressive strength feats, and Hulk is a powerhouse beast who lift and throw and smash almost anything he facing. But if you accept that the dbz work by ki, you can think on some things and see it doesn't so inconsistent.

Freeza survived a planet blow. Trunks slashed Freeza. Trunks couldn't slash Goku. Why? Because he was stronger, he had stronger ki than Freeza. Durability. What about low durability feat? That's not inconsistent. The ki is the durability. They control it, and when they calm, or damaged, they ki's are dropped. Low ki=less durability, less power, etc. Goku was very calm, as he enjoyed the sun and everything when Krillin thrown him. I could write more, about the strength and durability, but this is not Hulk vs Goku.

@mypasswordis1234: do you mean that it was literally a dream or are you simply remarking that it is ludicrous for hulk to kill goku in a single punch? spiderman punched hulk into orbit

I doubt I can convince you, but yeah, actually I am in the opposite opinion about Hulk-Goku.

About Cosmic Spiderman. Punching Hulk into orbit doesn't mean he is stronger than Hulk. I mean, didn't Hulk punched somebody into orbit before? Or. It is stated in that comic, that Spidey is stronger than Hulk? Not like it's matter, because I doubt he has ftl moving against Goku.

@SilverGalford: If you are so confident in that absurd theory, then why haven't you answered my simple question yet? Or tell that what really happened in you opinion?

If he didn't busted anything then what was they showing in the opening? For what purpose they showing? And why Kaio was so bothered in that moment? Why Goku asked Broly did he destroyed the Galaxy or not?

In our galaxy, there are 300 000 million star, according to the wikipedia. The DBZ galaxies are bigger than this. And he not accepted galaxy buster, because some planet remained. It's like I demolish the great chinese wall, but one brick remained, so I lied and everybody who confirm that lier too.

Lol a human sized creature vs a bigger robot than galaxies? Thanos couldn't even see if it has head or not. Wouldn't even know what killed him. It shouldn't even has to step on him, a kind touch would do it since in his size that's FTL and with his mass, it's ridiculusly powerful.

@st0nnec0ld: in this form Spiderman is physically stronger than the Hulk who can kill Goku with a single punch, he can manipulate matter and his webs can become adamantium (something Goku could never hope to dent)

@leofull: I said h2h. Hand to hand fight. Lighting is the Mjolnir's ability. And you can see, they are rivaling. Even if Thor hold back his power, he shouldn't have ever let to hit by Hulk IF he really that fast. But he isn't. Hulk's combat speed<kid Krillin's combat speed. And in Fear Itself series Thor said that he never could beat him.

@shakyric_lawson: I dislike every other dub that isn't the original. You aren't the first who said the dub error. Broly destroyed that galaxy.

@solesamurai: maybe, but i can't see dbz busting anything but planets and broly is not canon so...

So what?

This is Broly vs Nova so telling that Broly is non canon so all his shown feats are fake is nonsense. Anyway this non-canon thing is bullsh1t as a counter-argument. These are not the part of the original manga storyline but they are not doing things they couldn't do in the manga, as they abilities are the same.

@SilverGalford said:

Broly busted a galaxy

No ,he didn't , not even a planet was busted.

Lol. Then, if he didn't busted anything then what was they showing in the opening? Was Kaio watching a movie and then he thought "Oh, BTW Goku we have a little problem" ?

There is no such thing as infinite power, but Broly should win even without that video(good video, but it shows non-canon feats too). Broly busted a galaxy, before the LSSJ form. And I didn't know the DBZ galaxies are bigger than in real.

@DBZ_universe: Like I said, i'm sorry but you kinda do come off that way some times.

One instance I remember of him was he thought, might still do, that if they were equal in physical attributes and Goku never had his energy. He believed Goku would beat Batman.

That's crazy to me since I've only seen Goku use Kung Fu. While Batman is a master of near or over 100 martial arts forms.

Lol, and I haven't seen batman fighting more than 3-4 MA forms, maybe some of you saw more, but not 127. He is mostly use boxing, ninjutsu and some grab-and-throw style. That number mean nothing since it's impossible to master that much style in 15 years(8,46 per year, while he studying and others). He is a human.

And idk why is fanwanking when I said eos goku>gohan with a scan and example that happened before...-.-'

Karate Kid learned every martial arts in history. And he's a teen. So you can do what the fuck you wanna do. Ain't gonna make no difference when the creator himself stated Gohan was the most powerful. So take your fanboy shit and jog on.

Eat some calming pill, you take my comments so offensive like if I speaking bad things about your mother. You must not say anything if you don't have any related thought.

KK is another case, he is on the future and I never saw him as beating someone, so I don't care him. You could mention even superman if you want to prove than in comic they can do anything.

You are overuse this fanboy slang sh1t, anyway if one of us biased then that's you, gohan is you favorite while goku is not my. When the creator(in interview) said goku is the strongest, that just has no weight, when he stated thing is manga or gt anime they lying, but here have clue on that he is wrong and it's ignored because the creator is on opposite opinion. interesting.

It might be your bad English I'm getting annoyed with.

I was using KK as an example that someone can learn many forms of martial arts, so can Batman. Other characters in comics have learned EVERY form of martial arts/; David Cain comes to mind. He trained Bruce while he was at the beginning of his career. So it's more than possible for Bruce to master many forms if the one master knowns them all.

The creator is the creator, if he says something about HIS creation, it' his word above anyone elses. Like George Lucas' word on Star Wars is above the comics, and the other EU. Creator said Goku was the "coolest" not the most powerful.

Learning better English might help you out.

KK is still not relevant, because he is not a normal human. "Karate Kid is the master of every documented form of martial arts to have been developed up to the 31st century. He possesses the ability to sense the weakest spot in an object and his skill in hand-to-hand combat is seemingly superhuman, allowing him to simulate super-strength blows. He can severely damage extremely hard and strong materials — metals, stone, etc. — with a single blow." And he developed his own style, super karate. Batman should have name his own style too. But anyway, krillin is a human too and can shoot ki balls, it's not a proof and not the point. The admittedly big deal about Batman is that he is a normal human, without superpowers, and still awesome. Still awesome, because his stories are believable, and with some "luck" it could happens in real life too. It's other fan's opinion, not mine. But the 127 MA thing is not just unbelievable, it's impossible, at least to master level. And I searched a little on the net, others said he is mostly using boxing, and... I forget, but he has some certain style which he prefer, so the rest is just an exaggeration.

I know who is the creator and what he did, lol. But people don't give a sh1t about his word in manga, even if logically he has right. And here calling fanwanker, fanboy, etc, when logically he has wrong....

Creator answered to the question "cool" and his reason is that he is the pure strongest. "The always pure strongest in the universe" Strongest mean he is the strongest. There was time when he wasn't the strongest in the story, but eventually...

It's like "Broly is my favorite, his power level is maximum".

I usually(I hurried with the previous post) trying to write with my best grammar knowledge, if something annoying you, feel free to grammar nazi fix me and I won't do the same mistake again.

The thing about Batman is his will power. His drive. He knowns he needs to better himself otherwise other villains will take control. Like Bane, Black Mask etc. That is why he learns all these different forms. He only uses the few he knowns until he fights an opponent that can negate the ones he uses. When Bane broke Bruce he took a year out letting Azazeal take over while he learned different martial arts and to better himself. He's always doing these trips. Because of his resources, wealth, his intelligence and the fact that he's Batman he can master martial art forms quickly.

Here is probably the reason why he knowns so many.

Also depends on the writer. People like Dixon, O'Neil like to use different forms of martial arts in their stories. People like Morrison and Rucka like to focus more on the story, the detective side. They can write Bruce differently. The thing is with Dragon Ball Z. There is one writer. So if he says at the end of Z that Gohan is the strongest (non-fused) character, then he knowns if people have been training to the extreme or relaxed.

You seem to think it's not possible for a person to do this in comics? When people in the Dragon Ball break the laws of physics like gravity, that gravity training would kill them. Their blood would pool a their feet and would not reach vital organs and cause a serve case of death. Now THAT'S impossible.

I never watched the Broly films so I do not understand that reference.

I apologies for the grammar comment.

When he was learning these styles, he hadn't know them yet(bane and the others). He had only the willpower, good physic and his talent. And the best teacher for 15 years. Good explanation. But still not possible. They stated that batman MASTERED those 127 ma forms. 8,46 per year. 1 black belt/ 1 dan in karate is about 5-10 year, 5-4 if you are very talented, etc... and the "masters" stated that, the real learning/studying begins after the first dan/black belt(this may a hyperbole though). Use the power of google. :)

I didn't say it's impossible in comic. Everything possible in comic. Just the writers stated that Batman is a human and he is believable, possible character. While it isn't, the big number is only for make him more impressive. So (my original point is) IMO is saying that Batman beat everyone who is under the "mastered 127 MA" is a mistake. Those whom spent time on practicing a few(unknown number) style is above who practicing a lot, but less time.

"...he knows if people..." Hopefully, but not always, that's why the word "PIS" exist. However I can agree with that too.

That is a reference for this funny picture people posting here sometimes.

King Cold don't have the power to destroy him with punches, he tanked hits from SSJ Vegeta who was >SSJ Trunks at that time, and 19 can absorb ki attacks. KC would probably shoot some ki until he figured out why his beams didn't hurt him.

@DBZ_universe: Like I said, i'm sorry but you kinda do come off that way some times.

One instance I remember of him was he thought, might still do, that if they were equal in physical attributes and Goku never had his energy. He believed Goku would beat Batman.

That's crazy to me since I've only seen Goku use Kung Fu. While Batman is a master of near or over 100 martial arts forms.

Lol, and I haven't seen batman fighting more than 3-4 MA forms, maybe some of you saw more, but not 127. He is mostly use boxing, ninjutsu and some grab-and-throw style. That number mean nothing since it's impossible to master that much style in 15 years(8,46 per year, while he studying and others). He is a human.

And idk why is fanwanking when I said eos goku>gohan with a scan and example that happened before...-.-'

Karate Kid learned every martial arts in history. And he's a teen. So you can do what the fuck you wanna do. Ain't gonna make no difference when the creator himself stated Gohan was the most powerful. So take your fanboy shit and jog on.

Eat some calming pill, you take my comments so offensive like if I speaking bad things about your mother. You must not say anything if you don't have any related thought.

KK is another case, he is on the future and I never saw him as beating someone, so I don't care him. You could mention even superman if you want to prove than in comic they can do anything.

You are overuse this fanboy slang sh1t, anyway if one of us biased then that's you, gohan is you favorite while goku is not my. When the creator(in interview) said goku is the strongest, that just has no weight, when he stated thing is manga or gt anime they lying, but here have clue on that he is wrong and it's ignored because the creator is on opposite opinion. interesting.

It might be your bad English I'm getting annoyed with.

I was using KK as an example that someone can learn many forms of martial arts, so can Batman. Other characters in comics have learned EVERY form of martial arts/; David Cain comes to mind. He trained Bruce while he was at the beginning of his career. So it's more than possible for Bruce to master many forms if the one master knowns them all.

The creator is the creator, if he says something about HIS creation, it' his word above anyone elses. Like George Lucas' word on Star Wars is above the comics, and the other EU. Creator said Goku was the "coolest" not the most powerful.

Learning better English might help you out.

KK is still not relevant, because he is not a normal human. "Karate Kid is the master of every documented form of martial arts to have been developed up to the 31st century. He possesses the ability to sense the weakest spot in an object and his skill in hand-to-hand combat is seemingly superhuman, allowing him to simulate super-strength blows. He can severely damage extremely hard and strong materials — metals, stone, etc. — with a single blow." And he developed his own style, super karate. Batman should have name his own style too. But anyway, krillin is a human too and can shoot ki balls, it's not a proof and not the point. The admittedly big deal about Batman is that he is a normal human, without superpowers, and still awesome. Still awesome, because his stories are believable, and with some "luck" it could happens in real life too. It's other fan's opinion, not mine. But the 127 MA thing is not just unbelievable, it's impossible, at least to master level. And I searched a little on the net, others said he is mostly using boxing, and... I forget, but he has some certain style which he prefer, so the rest is just an exaggeration.

I know who is the creator and what he did, lol. But people don't give a sh1t about his word in manga, even if logically he has right. And here calling fanwanker, fanboy, etc, when logically he has wrong....

Creator answered to the question "cool" and his reason is that he is the pure strongest. "The always pure strongest in the universe" Strongest mean he is the strongest. There was time when he wasn't the strongest in the story, but eventually...

It's like "Broly is my favorite, his power level is maximum".

I usually(I hurried with the previous post) trying to write with my best grammar knowledge, if something annoying you, feel free to grammar nazi fix me and I won't do the same mistake again.