Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

Re: Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

Wtf does the tree standing there mean. I aint reading no fukin book just to tell me what it means for a tree to be standing.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25764455

Why? You cant read? Or you refuse to read the book?

Read. Cmon, man.

Isaiah 9:10, - “The bricks have fallen, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycamores are cut down, but we will plant cedars in their place,” the northern 10 Tribes of Israel refused to repent after they were struck by the Assyrians - which was a warning from the Lord. Instead of listening to the alarm, of turning back, and humbling themselves in repentance, they boasted of their resolve, that they would rebuild stronger and better than before. They ignored the warning and rejected the call to return. They defied it. Sadly, their defiance led to the nation’s total destruction years later. The ancient prophecy forms the key to the nine harbingers of judgment, which are given to a nation in danger of judgment – each of which have reappeared on American soil – marking America as the nation in danger of judgment.

The First Harbinger: The Breach. In 732 B.C., the hedge of protection was removed and Israel’s enemies invade the land and wreak havoc. The calamity traumatizes the nation but it takes place on a limited scale, as with 9/11. The warning is the removal of the hedge. On September 11, 2001, America’s hedge of protection was removed – the breach of America’s security, and was a sign that God has lifted His protective hand.

The Second Harbinger: The Terrorist. It was the dark shadow of Assyrian terror that loomed over the kingdom of Israel. The danger against which the prophets had warned. And when, years later, Israel’s final judgment came, the Assyrians would again be the means through which it would happen. So, too, the attack on America is carried out by terrorists. The Assyrians were a Semitic people, children of the Middle East. So too were the terrorists of 9/11. "Terrorism" and its ideology was 1st created by the peoples of Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Assyria. (modern -day Syria) The Third Harbinger: The Fallen Bricks. The most visible signs of the attack on ancient Israel were that of the fallen buildings and the ruin heaps of fallen bricks. The third harbinger is the sign of the fallen bricks of the fallen buildings. On Sept 11, 2001, Americans were confronted with the same sign, fallen bricks of the fallen buildings of the wreckage of Ground Zero. America was not turning back to God. It was a short-lived spiritual revival that never came.

The Fourth Harbinger: The Tower. Israel defiantly began rebuilding on the devastated ground, vowing to rebuild higher and stronger. So, too, in the wake of 9/11, American leaders vowed to rebuild at Ground Zero higher and stronger – the Tower begins to rise at Ground Zero. Those involved act unwittingly.

The Fifth Harbinger: The Gazit Stone. We will rebuild with quarried stone - The Israelites carve out quarried stone from mountain rock and bring it back to the ground of destruction where clay bricks once stood. Three years after 9/11, a stone is quarried out of the mountain rock of New York. This massive stone was brought back to Ground Zero. In ancient Israel this stone became a misplaced embodiment of the nation’s confidence in its own power. So too the massive stone at Ground Zero became the symbolic cornerstone of the rebuilding. Public ceremonies accompanied the stone placement. Plans to rebuild Ground Zero would be frustrated for years. Eventually they would remove the stone from GZ altogether.

The Sixth Harbinger: The Sycamore. The Sycamores have been cut down - The attack on ancient Israel resulted in the striking down of the sycamore tree, a biblical sign of national judgment. The fallen sycamore is a sign of uprooting, a warning and, in ignoring the warning, it becomes a prophecy of judgment. On 9/11, as the North Tower fell it sent debris and wreckage which struck and uprooted an object – a sycamore tree growing at Ground Zero. The tree was made into a symbol and named The Sycamore of Ground Zero. When it fell in ancient Israel it prophesied the nation’s downfall and the end of its kingdom. What happens to America depends on if the warning is heeded.

The Seventh Harbinger: The Erez Tree. But we will plant cedars in their place -

Re: Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

Wow! Just Wow!Did you see when Rabbi Cahn and Bakker showed the One Year Bibles in publication since at least 1985? Everyone of them have the Harbinger verse from Isaiah for the daily Bible reading for SEPTEMBER 11!!!I'm speechless!!

Re: Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

Understand that the point is that all these things took place in a context and spirit of DEFIANCE.That is what the prophecy is about.The attacks and the reaction to them were not points of reconciliation to our relationship with God......or our acknowledgment and respect for His protection.....But merely self

Re: Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

Wtf does the tree standing there mean. I aint reading no fukin book just to tell me what it means for a tree to be standing.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25764455

Why? You cant read? Or you refuse to read the book?

Read. Cmon, man.

Isaiah 9:10, - “The bricks have fallen, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycamores are cut down, but we will plant cedars in their place,” the northern 10 Tribes of Israel refused to repent after they were struck by the Assyrians - which was a warning from the Lord. Instead of listening to the alarm, of turning back, and humbling themselves in repentance, they boasted of their resolve, that they would rebuild stronger and better than before. They ignored the warning and rejected the call to return. They defied it. Sadly, their defiance led to the nation’s total destruction years later. The ancient prophecy forms the key to the nine harbingers of judgment, which are given to a nation in danger of judgment – each of which have reappeared on American soil – marking America as the nation in danger of judgment.

The First Harbinger: The Breach. In 732 B.C., the hedge of protection was removed and Israel’s enemies invade the land and wreak havoc. The calamity traumatizes the nation but it takes place on a limited scale, as with 9/11. The warning is the removal of the hedge. On September 11, 2001, America’s hedge of protection was removed – the breach of America’s security, and was a sign that God has lifted His protective hand.

The Second Harbinger: The Terrorist. It was the dark shadow of Assyrian terror that loomed over the kingdom of Israel. The danger against which the prophets had warned. And when, years later, Israel’s final judgment came, the Assyrians would again be the means through which it would happen. So, too, the attack on America is carried out by terrorists. The Assyrians were a Semitic people, children of the Middle East. So too were the terrorists of 9/11. "Terrorism" and its ideology was 1st created by the peoples of Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Assyria. (modern -day Syria) The Third Harbinger: The Fallen Bricks. The most visible signs of the attack on ancient Israel were that of the fallen buildings and the ruin heaps of fallen bricks. The third harbinger is the sign of the fallen bricks of the fallen buildings. On Sept 11, 2001, Americans were confronted with the same sign, fallen bricks of the fallen buildings of the wreckage of Ground Zero. America was not turning back to God. It was a short-lived spiritual revival that never came.

The Fourth Harbinger: The Tower. Israel defiantly began rebuilding on the devastated ground, vowing to rebuild higher and stronger. So, too, in the wake of 9/11, American leaders vowed to rebuild at Ground Zero higher and stronger – the Tower begins to rise at Ground Zero. Those involved act unwittingly.

The Fifth Harbinger: The Gazit Stone. We will rebuild with quarried stone - The Israelites carve out quarried stone from mountain rock and bring it back to the ground of destruction where clay bricks once stood. Three years after 9/11, a stone is quarried out of the mountain rock of New York. This massive stone was brought back to Ground Zero. In ancient Israel this stone became a misplaced embodiment of the nation’s confidence in its own power. So too the massive stone at Ground Zero became the symbolic cornerstone of the rebuilding. Public ceremonies accompanied the stone placement. Plans to rebuild Ground Zero would be frustrated for years. Eventually they would remove the stone from GZ altogether.

The Sixth Harbinger: The Sycamore. The Sycamores have been cut down - The attack on ancient Israel resulted in the striking down of the sycamore tree, a biblical sign of national judgment. The fallen sycamore is a sign of uprooting, a warning and, in ignoring the warning, it becomes a prophecy of judgment. On 9/11, as the North Tower fell it sent debris and wreckage which struck and uprooted an object – a sycamore tree growing at Ground Zero. The tree was made into a symbol and named The Sycamore of Ground Zero. When it fell in ancient Israel it prophesied the nation’s downfall and the end of its kingdom. What happens to America depends on if the warning is heeded.

The Seventh Harbinger: The Erez Tree. But we will plant cedars in their place -

You will have to read the book to find out about the Erez Tree!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 722466

what is 7, 8, and 9!!?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21735059

im sorry.. just 8 & 9

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21735059

I guess if you read it here or in a book, ita just as good, although the book is waay better.

The Seventh Harbinger: The Erez Tree. But we will plant cedars in their place - In their defiance of God, the Israelites replace the fallen sycamore with a Cedar tree. The cedar, being stronger than the sycamore becomes a symbol of the nation’s arrogant hope that it will emerge from the crisis stronger than before. The English name for this tree is “Cedar,” but the Hebrew word is “Erez.” Erez stands not only for cedar but for a conifer tree of the panacea family. In November of 2003, a tree was lowered at the corner of Ground Zero into the soil where the fallen sycamore once stood. The tree was a conifer, a panacea tree, the biblical Erez. A ceremony was held around the tree and it, too, became a symbol – entitled The Tree of Hope. There is always hope. A nation’s true hope is found only in returning to God.

The Eight Harbinger: The Utterance. The Eighth Harbinger was the public speaking of the ancient vow of defiance. For this harbinger to manifest, the vow would have to be spoken in the nation’s capital by a national leader, as it had been in ancient Israel. On Sept 11, 2004, every object mentioned in the prophecy of Isa 9:10 had manifested. The public utterance of the prophecy had to take place publicly, which happened on Sept 11, 2004 when VP candidate John Edwards, giving a speech in the capital city, quoted this exact scripture word for word in Wash., DC. Without realizing it, he was joining the two nations together and, without realizing it, pronouncing judgment on America. The ancient and the modern were bound together.

The Ninth Harbinger: The Prophecy. The Ninth Harbinger is the proclaiming of the ancient vow as prophecy, as a matter of public record, and spoken before the words come true. On Sept 12, 2001, the day after 9/11, America issues its official response to the attack. The one in charge of issuing the response was Tom Daschle, Senate Majority Leader. As he closes his speech he makes a declaration – he proclaims the ancient vow of defiance, word for word, to the world. By doing so he prophesies the nation’s future course, all of which comes to pass.

The Second Shaking – The mystery of the Harbinger continues – and lies behind everything from the Global War on Terror, the Collapse of the American economy, the crash of Wall Street, the Great Recession, and more.

Amazingly, events happened with an unseen hand, and people acted unwittingly in the unfolding of this prophecy. The Prophet character says that “The Almighty has His own purposes.” God, in His mercy, always reaches out in mercy. At Ground Zero, the ground of devastation becomes the ground of restoration. Incredibly it was at the site of Ground Zero in the miracle church, St Paul’s Chapel, that this nation was dedicated to God by first president George Washington & other leaders at his inauguration in 1789. The nation’s first government was formed in New York City before DC was formed. God is calling the nation back to Himself. “The heart of God wills for salvation,” the Prophet says. “Greater than his judgments are His compassions.”

THE STORY BEHIND THE MESSAGENot long after 9/11 Jonathan sensed that somehow these events were linked to what happened to ancient Israel per Isa 9, the first massive divine warning given to that nation. A number of years later, he was standing at the corner of Ground Zero and his attention was drawn to an object that was the first puzzle piece of an ancient mystery and a prophetic warning for America. He first shared the word at his congregation Beth Israel in 2005. A few years later he was led to begin committing the message to book form. When the Lord started revealing these things Jonathan had an urgent sense that this word needed to get out.

COMING TO MESSIAHJonathan was raised in the synagogue but at age 8 questioned what he was taught. Didn’t believe, and at age 11 he decided not to pursue a bar mitzvah. By age 13 he questioned his atheism. In 7th grade he became friends with a boy who spoke to him of Jesus – began searching for answers. Reading The Late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsey led him to open the Bible and begin reading about end-time prophecies. There he discovered the prophecies of the Jewish Messiah in the Hebrew Scriptures. It all pointed to Jesus, but Jonathan continued living as before, leading a rock band. He began telling everyone about the prophecies and ended up winning others to the Lord, though he himself wasn’t saved. He eventually realized that it wasn’t enough to just agree with it in his mind. If Messiah came back, he would not be ready to meet Him. He knew there was only one way to God but he didn’t want to give his life to God. But feeling the continual call of God, he made a deal with Him. If God would grant him long life, then he would accept the Lord… at the end – when he was about to die.

Soon after that he was almost killed. Twice. He was driving about 45 miles per hour in two lanes of traffic when the car went out of control, swerving into two oncoming lanes, spinning in and out of cars. By a miracle he wasn’t killed. A few months later, at night, he was driving across a train track and got stuck on it, even though he was trying to be careful. He saw a big light – and it was the train which plowed into his little Ford Pinto. As the car crumbled before him, he could only call out to God. The car was demolished and the crash made headlines, but Jonathan escaped without a scratch. Strike two. Jonathan quickly changed his deal with God and accepted the Lord when he turned 20. Not knowing much about salvation or how to come to God, he drove up to the top of a mountain, kneeled down to pray and dedicate his life to God. Not long after he was asked to lead a Bible study. After college the Lord interrupted his plans and called him into full-time ministry. He wanted to do what Messiah would do, working with the needy, homeless and disabled. He and others helped found a Messianic outreach. A few years later in 1988, he was asked to lead Beth Israel, the largest Messianic congregation in America made up of Jew and Gentile alike.

Re: Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

Wow! Just Wow!Did you see when Rabbi Cahn and Bakker showed the One Year Bibles in publication since at least 1985? Everyone of them have the Harbinger verse from Isaiah for the daily Bible reading for SEPTEMBER 11!!!I'm speechless!!

Re: Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

It is such an eye opener to see how things are falling in place so similar to what happened to ancient Israel. Scary what happens when a nation kicks God out of it.

Quoting: Sleeping Giant

Now is the time also of the waking of the lost tribes of Isreal, check out:www.etzyoseph.org what about the Cherochee Indians?The Mi'Kmaq's?ect....things changed 2500 yrs ago when Jerimiah was told to uproot and replant Isreal in a new place. blah blah blah,you've heard all this before I am sure.

Quoting: Mi'Kmaq

Please elaborate on your posting about the Cherokee Indians.

I went to the link you gave but found no reference there.

Perhaps I over looked it.

Thank you.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15256858

the only way to the links are on youtube check out say quiet buck there you will find info on Cherokee.........

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

Re: Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

The bible has a pattern of showing the physical and then the spiritual. Israel in Isaiah and Jeremiah and the prophets was the physical Israel and the United States is the final spiritual Israel and that is why the same things are happening to the United States that happened to Israel.

quoting from "Enigmatic Sunrise Todays Prophetic Secrets Revealed":

A cottage is a place, its structures void of life! Individuals are living beings, and thus the daughter is not as the frame of wood but it is of the make-up of the frame of flesh!

Isaiah 1:88 And the daughter of Zion is left as a cottage in a vineyard, as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, as a besieged city.

Is a daughter birthed from a parent? Is a daughter surnamed, thus named as the offspring and carried forth from the giver of that life?

Zion is a place! A daughter is a woman! If, Zion is a place and Zion births a daughter, a woman, then also is she named after her parent as long as she remains unwed!

Zion has many names, yet it has some names for the residing of its daughter. Zion in the Hebrew interpretation means the Capital. It also means the waymark, title, sign, dry desert place, and most significantly, the wilderness! Therefore, resides the daughter, woman of Zion, the woman in the wilderness(Rev. 12:6) Revelation 12:6

6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

If one of Zions' symbols is the Capital then the ramification of its members is Israel as a whole. For as the head of a man is part of the body, so is the name of that one. So as the Capital, Zion, is the head of that body Israel, so is the name of that nation!

Therefore, behold the daughter of that Zion, the offspring of Israel is named! For as the parent, so is the child, called after the same name, and is surnamed Israel!

Therefore there are two Israels symbolizing its regions in the latter days, geographical Israel, the nation Israel, and Israels' daughter, the daughter of Zion, symbolizing spiritual Israel, the nation of the United States! This is not to say the other nations are excluded in parts as being made up of members also of spiritual Israel. Nevertheless, like the nation Israel, its borders are established; yet many Jews live outside their country but remain Jewish nonetheless. So also all that are embodied in Christ is of spiritual Israel, regardless, of the nation from which they are birthed and reside in. Yet, spiritual Israels' borders are established in a land also, as God ordained!

For what nation stand to fulfill Gods promise to Moses and the children of Israel? For the Lord God of Israel said, of that nation, that it is a land flowing with milk and honey.Yet the nation of Israel never came to the fullness of this promise, except for a few brief periods, and a small time under Solomons' reign. Today Israel is a nation in existence much in part through the benefits of the United States and her massive loans. Israel lives in constant turmoil and enemies dwell all about, as peace seems a means toward greater chaos. It is not that Israel that all the nations envy for their means, and hope, and gain, and desire to prosper in the same manner; for that Israel, geographical Israel is not the land of milk and honey. For the promise toward such a land, nation, and people is exemplified in no other nation on earth, as it is in that pleasant land of the nation of the Unites States!

Re: Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

Wow! Just Wow!Did you see when Rabbi Cahn and Bakker showed the One Year Bibles in publication since at least 1985? Everyone of them have the Harbinger verse from Isaiah for the daily Bible reading for SEPTEMBER 11!!!I'm speechless!!

Re: Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

Wow! Just Wow!Did you see when Rabbi Cahn and Bakker showed the One Year Bibles in publication since at least 1985? Everyone of them have the Harbinger verse from Isaiah for the daily Bible reading for SEPTEMBER 11!!!I'm speechless!!

We have been warned. We were just deaf blind and dumb. By the time people open their eyes it will be to see the destruction of the greatest nation on Earth after it is too late to stop it.

"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787

Re: Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

Obama = opening of the 3rd Seal,the pale one to come is standing next to him.shall I open the 4th seal?.......

Quoting: Mi'Kmaq

I'm all into this timing thing,and this is what I see,Obama is the black horse that is holding scales ,that causes prices to skyrocket,who sets the stage for the pale horse that brings distruction and who is to come,so who ever next after Obama,...hum does that mean if anything happens between now and say inaguration day,could set up armmageddon? Joe Biden,the antichrist? go figure!...........

Re: Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

Obama = opening of the 3rd Seal,the pale one to come is standing next to him.shall I open the 4th seal?.......

Quoting: Mi'Kmaq

I'm all into this timing thing,and this is what I see,Obama is the black horse that is holding scales ,that causes prices to skyrocket,who sets the stage for the pale horse that brings distruction and who is to come,so who ever next after Obama,...hum does that mean if anything happens between now and say inaguration day,could set up armmageddon? Joe Biden,the antichrist? go figure!...........

Quoting: Mi'Kmaq

The case of Henry Gates and how he "handled" it was so symbolical for what Obama ultimately is, will be, and will have been, to the US.

Re: Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

It is such an eye opener to see how things are falling in place so similar to what happened to ancient Israel. Scary what happens when a nation kicks God out of it.

Quoting: Sleeping Giant

For being a conspiracy site I sure see a lot of gullible people. The bible as we know it today is a creation of those who want to control us.

Everybody gasps in wonder that so much of what we see is a fulfillment of "bible" prophecy when in fact TPTB pretty much know in advance of the sort of things that need/have to be done in order to advance a chosen agenda.Frankly, they no doubt have plans within plans within plans and a hundred different plan Bs if plan A doesn't pan out.

The part in the interview where there is talk about the US breaking covenant with god is a statement that somewhere in our past one of our leaders broke covenent with TPTB and X is the result.

Re: Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

Obama = opening of the 3rd Seal,the pale one to come is standing next to him.shall I open the 4th seal?.......

Quoting: Mi'Kmaq

I'm all into this timing thing,and this is what I see,Obama is the black horse that is holding scales ,that causes prices to skyrocket,who sets the stage for the pale horse that brings distruction and who is to come,so who ever next after Obama,...hum does that mean if anything happens between now and say inaguration day,could set up armmageddon? Joe Biden,the antichrist? go figure!...........

Quoting: Mi'Kmaq

its not pale (mistranslation) its actually green and its Islam, notice it has powers over one fourth the world, Muslims have exactly 1/4 the population.

Re: Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

It is such an eye opener to see how things are falling in place so similar to what happened to ancient Israel. Scary what happens when a nation kicks God out of it.

Quoting: Sleeping Giant

For being a conspiracy site I sure see a lot of gullible people. The bible as we know it today is a creation of those who want to control us.

Everybody gasps in wonder that so much of what we see is a fulfillment of "bible" prophecy when in fact TPTB pretty much know in advance of the sort of things that need/have to be done in order to advance a chosen agenda.Frankly, they no doubt have plans within plans within plans and a hundred different plan Bs if plan A doesn't pan out.

The part in the interview where there is talk about the US breaking covenant with god is a statement that somewhere in our past one of our leaders broke covenent with TPTB and X is the result.

Re: Messenger of the Harbinger? Tree not destroyed in NY HARBINGER Important! page 8 new info

Just found the program at 3 p.m. EST on the same 367 channel on Direct t.v., If you can't see it in the a.m., then try at 3 p.m. It is also on other channels at different times. Do not miss tomorrow's program for more information on the HARBINGER. Rabbi Cahn's book the Harbinger has been on the top of the best seller list for the longest time this year.