Ever since I started taking mones, I have gotten laid a lot, and with ease. But it changed my personality, I believe for the worse.

It started a few years ago. I was a shy quiet virgin that got nervous around women. I started using AMMO and my lay count sky rocketed. I got away with everything. I would treat women like shit and they would still beg to have me around. I began to expect sex everytime I hung out with a female or even going out. My life began to revolve only around sex. Every decision I made was about "will this get me laid?". Sex means nothing to me now and I plan my life around mones.

I have a combo for every situation in life such as dates, hanging with friends/family, work, parties, if my girlfriend is mad, etc. I own and have tried a majority of the mones that are available and I think the over usage of too many different mones has messed up my body chemistry, mental health, or something(?). I'm tense all the time, I'm always observing people's body languages and trying to come up with conclusions of how they feel about me, and even when I go days without taking mones, people still give me weird looks and avoid me(?).

Lately I've been extremely introverted with really bad mental fog. I can barely hold a conversation without it being forced. I'm tense all the time but calm. I really suspect the over usage of too many differing mones has caused me to lose a sense of who I really am. People seem to fear me and avoid me. I over analyze all body language from how people stand, their facial expressions, to how they socialize. Because of this, I'm always quiet and observing how others behave, this makes people think I'm giant weirdo.

My sense of smell became sensitive and little "normal" things that never use to bother me, now make me gag. I think that smelling too many different mones lead to over stimulation of my sense of smell to brain connection. Is it possible that I have adrenal fatigue?

The problem is that when I don't use mones I get anxiety and I feel like a different person.

I've been using wolf a lot lately, and even though it's making people respect me and see me as "VIP", I became so calm and cool that nothing excites me anymore and I don't really find anything interesting or funny.

Im writing this to warn others of possible negative results of abusing mones and to see if anyone else has experienced anything similar.

(10-30-2016 1:24 AM)Bodegaz Wrote: The problem is that when I don't use mones I get anxiety and I feel like a different person.

You used mones to overcome your social handicappness, but didn't try improving it.
You social skilled deteriorated to the point where you can't function without mones. Like girls getting used to makeup too much that, they can't leave their houses without them. There might be some impostor syndrome and feeling like a fraud too.
Analyzing body language is typical,if you read too much PUA.You probably thought sex and women will make you happy, but it didn't and you can't blame women for your unhappiness anymore.So,you feel depressed.Women,sex,money or possessions do not equal happiness. You have to find yourself and find what makes you truly happy.Taking responsibility for your actions instead of blaming others/things is a start.

It happened to me. I used it as a crutch. Trying to find a way out of this cycle without being mone less. I agree with everything. This is an un nattyral enhancement. Be wary new users. Start with IS for three months and take your time.

/bro-science

If you truly become high value, you no longer have to mimic the action or follow the beliefs of high-value men

Having the courage to not make hitting on girls creepy is all you need.

(10-30-2016 2:00 AM)jb20 Wrote: You used mones to overcome your social handicappness, but didn't try improving it.
You social skilled deteriorated to the point where you can't function without mones. Like girls getting used to makeup too much that, they can't leave their houses without them. There might be some impostor syndrome and feeling like a fraud too.
Analyzing body language is typical,if you read too much PUA.You probably thought sex and women will make you happy, but it didn't and you can't blame women for your unhappiness anymore.So,you feel depressed.Women,sex,money or possessions do not equal happiness. You have to find yourself and find what makes you truly happy.Taking responsibility for your actions instead of blaming others/things is a start.

My social skills are not the best but I used to be super out going, be able to make people laugh, and conversate for self amusement. But now nothing anyone says ever makes me genuinely laugh out loud. Whenever anyone tells me anything I feel nothing inside and just respond with something like "oh really? That's cool".

I don't know if the mones programmed me subconsciously to think I'm better than everyone else and the things people say have no value to me. I get bored when I have to listen to people ramble on. No interest in others opinions at all.

(10-30-2016 1:24 AM)Bodegaz Wrote: My social skills are not the best but I used to be super out going, be able to make people laugh, and conversate for self amusement.

I'm confused, these seem contradictory.

someone can have good social skills around a group of people but clam up when they start talking to women or be in a 1 on 1 situation. I know what he means because i'm the same way. when i'm around a girl I really like ... my brain goes mush

Correct a fool and he will hate you; correct a wise man and he will appreciate you

What you are explaining is the equivalent to taking supplements or steroids and not working out. Social skills are kind of like muscles that grow and develop with time. Much like working out, you can't just stand on the sidelines and watch. Nobody is gonna lift that weight for you. You need to flex your social skills and focus on developing yourself to perform with higher game. Pheromones do bring about changes and growth, but you need to grow with those changes instead of trying to keep yourself from falling apart. Every interaction is an opportunity for growth. Seize the moment and take responsibility for whatever reaction may or may not occur. The only way we get through this to a higher "level" of well being is through true vulnerability with ourselves.

Wow...I really hope the thing about body chemistry changing is not true

I have practiced PUA for a while, and the thing I hated was the over analyzing. I would never know what I did wrong but in the many magical PUA bibles online (for a one time payment of $97) there was always an explanation, and a counter response. Which always had me up in my head, and made me even more confused. I don't know what to say to you because I'm struggling with the same thing as well (not the mones...just trying to recover from filling my head with all the PUA clutter since high school)

I would share what my current plan of action is though....

A good amount of guys on the forums that have seen tremendous results in their lives, also use subliminals. These are audios that program your subconscious mind at can do really miraculous things if given time. They have subliminals to be an alpha male, to have confidence and many other things. I haven't used those, but I have used others for different topics that gave me astonishing results.

Right now I am paying subliminal maker to create a subliminal for me using affirmations that I wrote, so I can attack issues that I feel like are effecting me and causing all of the self hatred and lack of confidence.

I have practiced PUA for a while, and the thing I hated was the over analyzing. I would never know what I did wrong but in the many magical PUA bibles online (for a one time payment of $97) there was always an explanation, and a counter response. Which always had me up in my head, and made me even more confused. I don't know what to say to you because I'm struggling with the same thing as well (not the mones...just trying to recover from filling my head with all the PUA clutter since high school)

I would share what my current plan of action is though....

A good amount of guys on the forums that have seen tremendous results in their lives, also use subliminals. These are audios that program your subconscious mind at can do really miraculous things if given time. They have subliminals to be an alpha male, to have confidence and many other things. I haven't used those, but I have used others for different topics that gave me astonishing results.

Right now I am paying subliminal maker to create a subliminal for me using affirmations that I wrote, so I can attack issues that I feel like are effecting me and causing all of the self hatred and lack of confidence.

I agree with the PUA clutter. It made me worse. That's for men who have literally never spoke to a woman in their lives - moms included.

/bro-science

If you truly become high value, you no longer have to mimic the action or follow the beliefs of high-value men

Having the courage to not make hitting on girls creepy is all you need.